The Debrief With MyronGainesX - March 05, 2023


Former Fed Explains Casey Anthony: The MOST Controversial Case In FL History! Did She Do It?


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

192.41646

Word Count

36,926

Sentence Count

2,931

Misogynist Sentences

249

Hate Speech Sentences

83


Summary

Casey Anthony has been charged with 2nd degree murder and conspiracy to commit racketeering, drug trafficking, and racketeering in the case of his ex-wife, Casey's ex-boyfriend, and former co-worker, Casey Anthony.


Transcript

00:00:00.640 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FEDIT. We're back from YouTube jail, man.
00:00:07.680 Today we're going to be covering the Casey Anthony case, guys. Got a lot to cover on this one.
00:00:11.220 We got some reactions. I got a special guest with me, too. I'll introduce you guys to her in a second.
00:00:14.820 Let's get into it.
00:00:18.140 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys? HSI.
00:00:21.400 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
00:00:26.500 No one else has these documents, by the way.
00:00:28.740 Here's what FEDIT covers.
00:00:30.560 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.
00:00:36.760 Murder investigations.
00:00:37.760 You see him reaching in his jacket. You don't know.
00:00:40.020 And he's positioning.
00:00:40.680 Been on February 13, 2019.
00:00:42.380 You're facing two counts of two meditative murderers.
00:00:45.520 Racketeering and Rico conspiracies.
00:00:47.340 Young Slime Life here and after referred to as YSL.
00:00:49.920 This is 6ix9ine, and then this is Billy Seiko right here.
00:00:53.400 Now, when they first started, guys, 6ix9ine ran with me.
00:00:56.000 I'm a FED. I'm watching this music video.
00:00:57.480 You know, I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit.
00:01:00.340 But at the same time, I'm pausing.
00:01:01.840 Oh, wait, who this?
00:01:03.060 Right?
00:01:03.620 Who's that in the back?
00:01:05.700 Firearms and violent clans.
00:01:07.100 A.K.A. Bush Icy violated.
00:01:08.880 You're wanting to stay away from the victim.
00:01:10.740 A.K. Bush Icy arrested after shooting at King of Diamonds, Miami strip club, injured one person.
00:01:14.600 This is the one that's going to fuck him up because this gun is not tracing him.
00:01:18.140 Well, it happened at the gun range.
00:01:19.280 Here's your boy, 42 Doug, right here on the left.
00:01:21.580 Okay.
00:01:21.860 Sex trafficking and sex crimes.
00:01:23.260 They can effectively link him to paying an underage girl.
00:01:26.580 I'm going to love my sister.
00:01:27.620 Right.
00:01:28.040 Right.
00:01:28.340 And the first bomb went off right here.
00:01:31.080 Suspect to set down a backpack on the site of the second explosion inspired by Al-Qaeda.
00:01:36.140 Two terrorists, brothers, the Zokar Sarnev and Tamerlan Sarnev.
00:01:40.540 When the cartel shipped drugs into the country.
00:01:42.780 This guy got arrested for espionage.
00:01:45.200 Okay.
00:01:45.460 Trading secrets with the Russians for monetary compensation.
00:01:49.480 The largest corrupt police bust in New Orleans history.
00:01:53.720 The days of the police are gone.
00:01:55.320 So he was in this bad boy.
00:01:56.880 We're going to go over his past to the gang time so that this all makes sense.
00:02:06.860 All right.
00:02:07.680 What's up, guys?
00:02:08.380 Welcome back to Fed It, man.
00:02:10.080 As you guys know, we're in YouTube jail for a week because we got a strike on the main channel.
00:02:16.060 And anytime you get a strike on the main channel, you shouldn't be posting on other channels because they can look at a circumvention, which could get you jammed up.
00:02:21.820 So, you know, it is what it is, guys.
00:02:23.360 So we just didn't post for a week on YouTube.
00:02:24.580 We're on Rumble.
00:02:25.180 So if you guys want to go ahead and check out any of the Fresh and Fit After Hour shows that we did last week, they're all on rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit.
00:02:32.260 This week, we're back to regular schedule programming.
00:02:34.360 Tomorrow, we're going to have Charleston White.
00:02:35.980 We're going to have our, you know, regular Money Mondays, Womanized Wednesdays, et cetera.
00:02:39.340 No Money Monday tomorrow because we got a special guest, a.k.a. Charleston White.
00:02:42.820 But we're going to go through with the typical schedule as normal this coming week.
00:02:46.940 So we're happy to be back, guys.
00:02:48.560 But anyway, today we're going to be covering the Casey Anthony case.
00:02:52.360 A lot of you guys have been requesting this one for a while.
00:02:55.040 And I actually got some help on this one.
00:02:57.420 I'm going to introduce you guys to someone that you may or may not remember.
00:03:00.040 I got Angelica in the house.
00:03:02.640 You want to introduce yourself to the people real quick?
00:03:04.140 Yeah, sure.
00:03:04.720 My name is Angelica.
00:03:06.760 Not Angelica, you mean?
00:03:07.680 No, not Angelica.
00:03:08.980 Please don't call me Angelica.
00:03:10.520 I don't like it.
00:03:12.100 I prefer Angie.
00:03:13.880 So, yeah, I'll be helping my own with this case tonight.
00:03:18.140 Yeah, she actually did some research, guys.
00:03:19.860 So shout out to her for she took some quite a bit of notes and she actually gave me some facts that I didn't even know on this one.
00:03:25.500 But, yeah, she loves Angelica, guys.
00:03:27.120 So make sure to call her Angelica in the chat.
00:03:28.920 Please don't.
00:03:30.560 No.
00:03:31.200 Yeah, she messed up by saying, oh, I don't like that.
00:03:33.300 Too bad.
00:03:33.660 But so anyway, guys, we're going to get right into it.
00:03:37.020 Let me see here if we got any chats.
00:03:40.080 Let's see here.
00:03:41.540 We got here.
00:03:43.480 Glock Izzy.
00:03:44.180 Myron, what's good, bro?
00:03:45.080 Shout out to you, Glock Izzy.
00:03:45.920 I appreciate you.
00:03:47.020 And, yes, I know some of you guys are saying some stuff in the chat.
00:03:49.040 It's like, oh, did she really help?
00:03:50.000 No, she did, guys.
00:03:50.680 She actually did help.
00:03:51.400 She took some notes and she gave me some facts even that I didn't know about this case.
00:03:55.980 I took my sweet time.
00:03:57.460 Yeah, she actually did research.
00:03:59.500 And then we got Henny Everything.
00:04:00.760 What happened to Young Dolph?
00:04:01.900 Still got Young Dolph, guys, but you got to understand that there's some hearings happening.
00:04:06.540 Actually, there's some hearings happening in February that we're waiting for those to go through.
00:04:11.480 And then we're going to go ahead and do the Young Dolph case.
00:04:13.940 But there's a lot behind the scenes on that one.
00:04:15.660 I got some of the documents, so we're definitely going to cover that one.
00:04:18.440 And then we got Montrell Rather goes, glad to have you back on YouTube.
00:04:21.480 But please put Feta on Rumble as well and tell Fresh to do the same.
00:04:24.680 Love you guys.
00:04:25.680 Yeah, I might migrate this to Rumble as well.
00:04:28.040 Well, right now we're on Twitch because I'm actually going to be on Twitch, guys, and we're on Feta because I know there's a chance that this stream might get shut down because you're going to react to documentaries.
00:04:38.300 So hopefully they don't cut the stream.
00:04:39.980 If they do, I'll do what I normally do.
00:04:42.480 Finish it out on Twitch.
00:04:43.960 Close it down.
00:04:44.620 Then go ahead and repost it on YouTube for you guys with timestamps and everything else.
00:04:47.480 So, yeah.
00:04:48.760 But before we get into it, Angelica, you have anything you want to tell the people?
00:04:52.220 There's people commenting that they're calling me Miss Arepas.
00:04:55.300 Miss Arepas?
00:04:56.060 That's funny.
00:04:56.600 That's a funny one.
00:04:57.800 I like it.
00:04:58.640 All right.
00:04:59.320 Fair.
00:05:00.120 Okay, guys.
00:05:00.840 So we're going to go ahead and get right into it right now.
00:05:04.040 So let me go ahead and share a stream with you all real fast.
00:05:07.020 So we're going to get into the Wikipedia as normal.
00:05:09.980 Give you where familiarize your guys self with the case.
00:05:13.240 So we got here Kaylee Marie Anthony, right?
00:05:17.100 This is the death of Kaylee Anthony, who is a daughter.
00:05:19.040 She was killed from August 9th to 2005.
00:05:23.020 Born, died June or December-ish of 2008.
00:05:25.740 It was an American girl who lived in Orlando, Florida with her mother, Casey Marie Anthony, who we're going to cover guys today.
00:05:30.960 Born March 19th, 1986.
00:05:32.760 And her maternal grandparent, George and Cindy Anthony.
00:05:34.800 On July 15th, 2008, she was reported missing in a 911 call made by Cindy, who was a grandma, who said she had not seen Kaylee for 31 days and that Casey's car smelled like a dead body had been inside it.
00:05:45.200 Okay?
00:05:46.000 And we won't go into any more detail because that's going to ruin what we got going on here.
00:05:49.640 But we're going to go ahead and break down this documentary from JCS Criminal Psychology.
00:05:54.940 Shout out to them.
00:05:55.340 We'll go ahead and subscribe to the channel.
00:05:56.720 Like the video.
00:05:57.860 Do the same for this as well, guys, because you got to show support to everybody out there.
00:06:01.020 We're going to react to this thing.
00:06:02.940 And hold on.
00:06:03.740 Let me move some tabs around here so that we can better do this.
00:06:07.760 There we go.
00:06:09.140 Okay.
00:06:10.600 So, yeah.
00:06:11.340 Without further ado, let's get right into it, man.
00:06:14.080 And we're going to break this thing down, give you guys some insight, or give you guys some stuff that isn't covered in this documentary that Angie actually took notes on.
00:06:22.880 So, uh.
00:06:23.940 Most of you will already be aware of who two-year-old Kaylee Anthony was.
00:06:27.980 The majority will know that she sadly passed away at some point between 1 p.m. and 8 p.m. on June 16th, 2008.
00:06:35.900 Her death is undoubtedly the most heartbreaking part of this story, and we only need a single word to epitomize her short life.
00:06:43.200 Tragic.
00:06:44.080 But the primary subject of this video is not about the life nor the death of Kaylee Marie Anthony.
00:06:50.020 It is, in fact, about the psychological constitution of her mother, 22-year-old Casey Marie Anthony.
00:06:55.980 So, rather than tragic, you'll find the words disturbing and perplexing to be far better suited to the theme of this video.
00:07:02.420 Now, what I want to let you guys know right off the rip here is that this woman is crazy.
00:07:08.300 All right.
00:07:08.940 What you guys are about to see is.
00:07:11.480 She's the reason why women deserve less.
00:07:13.200 Yes, she is the reason why women deserve less.
00:07:16.580 Book coming soon, baby.
00:07:17.640 But, yo, real talk.
00:07:21.800 Yeah, you guys are.
00:07:22.500 What you guys are going to see is fairly disturbing.
00:07:24.520 So, this isn't for the faint of heart.
00:07:27.500 Viewer discretion is advised.
00:07:29.980 Yeah.
00:07:30.340 This is going to be a tough one, man.
00:07:32.360 Anytime there's child neglect or, you know, abusing children, it bothers me as well.
00:07:37.220 You know, I put some of these idiots away in jail.
00:07:39.560 So, yeah, just want to let you all know.
00:07:42.960 Viewer discretion is advised.
00:07:44.260 But, you guys are going to see literally probably the craziest people I've ever dealt with, like, dealt with as far as, like, FEDA goes in this situation.
00:07:52.360 Which explains why you sick bastards wanted this case.
00:07:54.800 But, let's get into it.
00:07:56.840 One of the many reasons this case is exceptional is how the present day's topic of discussion has little to do with the actual occurrences of the crime.
00:08:05.120 But, in fact, the subsequent developments that followed.
00:08:07.940 People are no longer talking about how or even why Kaylee Anthony passed away.
00:08:12.940 They are instead talking about the manner in which a mother responded to her daughter's death.
00:08:17.620 Given all the acquired information we now have, even if we afford this person the most morally acceptable possibility of what occurred, her manner of conduct was still unimaginably cold-blooded.
00:08:28.320 This is driven home by the fact she was evaluated by two clinical psychologists during her time in custody.
00:08:34.420 And not a single abnormality was discovered with relation to her psychological state.
00:08:39.160 That's extremely telling, guys, that, you know, two psychologists observed her, and she didn't come off as crazy.
00:08:48.100 So, what you guys are about to see, right, exemplifies how delusional this woman really is.
00:08:53.900 And I'll be honest with y'all.
00:08:55.400 A part of it, as you guys can see, she's not ugly, right?
00:08:57.280 So, this is pretty privileged on freaking steroids.
00:09:00.060 All right?
00:09:00.280 And you guys are going to see why she behaved the way that she did and what she was able to get away with throughout most of her life.
00:09:06.580 Let's see here.
00:09:07.700 Do we have any chats, by the way, that came in?
00:09:10.220 No?
00:09:10.560 All right, cool.
00:09:11.360 Let's get back into it.
00:09:13.580 In other words, there are no signs of mental illness whatsoever.
00:09:16.960 And this makes the character study of Casey Anthony just as fascinating as it is terrifying.
00:09:22.860 A human being's state of mind is something most accurately assessed with a full capacity of hindsight.
00:09:28.440 So, before we evaluate our first segment of raw footage, here's a quick rundown of each of the essential moments
00:09:34.120 that will give you a broader understanding of what we're actually dealing with.
00:09:37.700 On the 15th of July...
00:09:38.820 All right, so they're about to summarize the case here.
00:09:40.320 So, pay attention, guys, so you understand the general circumstances of facts around the investigation.
00:09:45.740 And I'm going to go ahead.
00:09:46.820 I got another documentary as well, which we're going to be, like, reacting to as well that adds to this.
00:09:52.920 And then Angie's got some facts as well where she'll be interjecting and letting you guys know some other things
00:09:57.360 that people didn't necessarily document in this documentary or the other one, all right?
00:10:01.200 Give you guys some more stuff.
00:10:02.280 So, get insight from three different situations.
00:10:05.440 July 2008.
00:10:06.980 Orlando police received a call from Cindy Anthony, the grandmother of the victim.
00:10:12.000 911, what's your emergency?
00:10:14.860 I called a little bit ago, the deputy sheriff.
00:10:17.160 I found out my granddaughter has been taken.
00:10:19.220 She has been missing for a month.
00:10:20.840 And also, I want you guys to pay attention to the distraughtness in the grandmother's voice.
00:10:26.400 And then I want you guys to compare and contrast that to the daughter, a.k.a. Casey Anthony's voice, okay?
00:10:31.800 So, the grandmother, she's freaking out.
00:10:34.180 But I want you all to pay attention to how the daughter reacts to the situation.
00:10:36.540 This is the thing.
00:10:37.300 Yep, go ahead.
00:10:37.940 This might not be important, but the thing is that she mentioned there that she called the police way before.
00:10:44.320 She actually called the police three times, two times before that call.
00:10:47.720 And she did because she was mad at Casey, apparently, because she took the car.
00:10:54.660 She stormed off and all that.
00:10:55.900 We're going to talk about that later.
00:10:57.940 But she wanted to get Casey arrested because she had stolen money or something like that.
00:11:03.460 And that was the third call.
00:11:05.220 And that's when she was worried because that was when Casey told her that the baby was missing.
00:11:10.860 Yeah.
00:11:11.280 No, that's actually a good point.
00:11:12.460 What you guys are hearing right now is actually the third 911 call.
00:11:15.440 Yeah.
00:11:15.640 So, prior to this, she had made two calls before because she had not seen her granddaughter in about a month.
00:11:21.620 And I didn't even know about the stolen money.
00:11:23.700 So, she had called the police on her because she had stolen money.
00:11:25.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:26.380 She stole money and she took the car, right?
00:11:29.240 She took the car, which they wouldn't mind.
00:11:32.360 They will mind.
00:11:33.100 The white sedan that they found later, right?
00:11:34.500 Yeah, exactly.
00:11:35.440 Okay.
00:11:36.180 All right.
00:11:36.720 There you go.
00:11:37.100 So, that gives you guys a little bit more insight that this is not the first call, which explains, I guess, some of the frustration.
00:11:42.000 Because you guys are going to see here that she talks about confronting her.
00:11:45.780 We're talking about a three-year-old little girl.
00:11:48.480 My daughter finally admitted that the babysitter stole her.
00:11:51.540 See, notice my daughter finally admitted that the babysitter stole her.
00:11:55.660 Okay.
00:11:56.120 So, she had been chasing her for a bit.
00:11:57.940 Like, hey, where's my granddaughter, goddammit?
00:12:00.580 She called before to get Casey arrested because of the stolen money and the car.
00:12:05.200 Okay.
00:12:05.520 Because she was mad.
00:12:06.480 But then when she told her about the baby, that was when she got worried and she called the third time.
00:12:11.060 Okay.
00:12:11.680 All right.
00:12:12.840 And she ended up, she had to look for her, too, guys.
00:12:14.860 Let's see y'all know.
00:12:15.340 She had to actually go searching for her to even have this 911 call because she couldn't find her.
00:12:20.460 To find her, your daughter admitted that the baby is where?
00:12:23.440 The baby said it took her a month ago.
00:12:26.020 My daughter's been looking for her.
00:12:27.380 I told you my daughter was missing for a month.
00:12:29.300 I just found her today, but I can't find my granddaughter.
00:12:32.520 She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself.
00:12:37.580 There's something wrong.
00:12:38.900 I found my daughter's car today, and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.
00:12:45.100 That's also a very giving thing.
00:12:47.340 So, hold on to that, guys.
00:12:48.460 That's going to be used later on as a key piece of evidence in this investigation that was disputed.
00:12:54.800 Okay?
00:12:56.380 What is the three-year-old's name?
00:12:58.120 Kaylee.
00:12:58.740 C-A-Y-L-E-E.
00:13:00.620 Anthony.
00:13:01.520 Kaylee Anthony?
00:13:02.660 Yes.
00:13:03.520 How long has she been missing for?
00:13:05.500 I have not seen her since the 7th of June.
00:13:08.800 Is your daughter there?
00:13:10.260 Yes.
00:13:10.540 7th of June, guys.
00:13:12.640 Okay?
00:13:13.340 So, this is like a month later.
00:13:15.680 Yeah.
00:13:15.820 Okay?
00:13:16.340 So, obviously, the grandma is very distraught, right?
00:13:19.180 Because you guys are going to see through the course of this that the grandparents were heavily invested in this child's life.
00:13:25.380 So, for them, they're invested to a significant degree.
00:13:28.460 And I want you guys to see, compare and contrast the grandmother's reaction to the actual mother, biological mom's reaction to this situation, which is crazy.
00:13:38.160 Can I speak with her?
00:13:41.120 So, she's like, can I speak with her?
00:13:42.860 And here's Cindy, right?
00:13:43.780 She goes, okay, Casey, here.
00:13:45.080 Pass through the phone, right?
00:13:47.040 They want to talk to you.
00:13:50.660 I don't have anything to talk to them.
00:13:53.140 Wait, what?
00:13:53.960 Red flag.
00:13:56.020 How do you not want to talk to the police when your kid's been missing for a goddamn month?
00:13:59.720 Like, what?
00:14:00.620 Exactly.
00:14:02.700 Hello?
00:14:03.500 Hello?
00:14:04.320 Yes.
00:14:04.880 Can you tell me what's going on a little bit?
00:14:06.740 I'm sorry?
00:14:07.420 Can you tell me a little bit what's going on?
00:14:08.740 My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days.
00:14:14.740 And you know who has her?
00:14:16.820 I know who has her.
00:14:17.920 I've tried to contact her.
00:14:19.480 I actually received a phone call today.
00:14:21.920 Now, from a number that is no longer in service.
00:14:24.780 I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment, about a minute.
00:14:28.900 Hold on.
00:14:30.380 So, she's confirming that the child is alive.
00:14:32.700 She's like, oh, no, I spoke to her for, like, a minute, a moment.
00:14:36.440 Okay?
00:14:37.020 So, that's very important.
00:14:39.200 But notice the tonality and how she speaks, guys, versus the grandmother.
00:14:44.220 The grandmother's panicking.
00:14:45.700 Like, what the hell's going on?
00:14:47.520 You know, she doesn't even care about the money or the car at this point.
00:14:50.700 She cares about the granddaughter.
00:14:52.040 But the mom is kind of chill, like, yeah, you know, I think I know where she's at.
00:14:57.040 She's with someone, et cetera.
00:14:59.900 Exactly.
00:15:00.860 The babysitter.
00:15:01.860 It's wild.
00:15:03.000 Do you have a name?
00:15:04.420 Her name is Zenaiva Fernandez Gonzalez.
00:15:07.440 Hold on.
00:15:09.340 Yo, what the?
00:15:10.340 I mean, you're Hispanic.
00:15:11.600 This is the most Latin name.
00:15:13.440 Yeah.
00:15:14.100 Like, yo, okay, let me just go ahead and come up with the most Hispanic name ever.
00:15:22.600 Like, where would that be?
00:15:23.960 Like, with that background type of name?
00:15:26.420 That's a stereotype for a Mexican name, actually.
00:15:29.460 Okay.
00:15:29.700 Is that like a, okay.
00:15:31.480 It's not a Venezuelan last name right there?
00:15:32.820 No, no.
00:15:33.840 But actually, Gonzalez is the most common Latin name, like, last name.
00:15:38.520 Okay, of course.
00:15:39.420 So, she put two together, and that's it.
00:15:43.060 Yeah, she went ahead and was like, okay, let me go ahead and get the most Hispanic name.
00:15:45.880 Of course, super made up.
00:15:47.340 Yeah, like, the most Hispanic name is Zenaida.
00:15:50.560 I've never heard anybody with that name before.
00:15:52.300 Like, do you know any Zenaidas out there?
00:15:54.360 That's an old person.
00:15:56.080 That's an old person's name?
00:15:57.220 Okay.
00:15:57.960 That's a grandest name.
00:15:59.000 It's the nanny, right?
00:15:59.940 So, I can see why she would pick that name.
00:16:02.080 Okay.
00:16:03.220 So, y'all are about to see if this Zenaida person, air quote, exists.
00:16:07.700 To give some context to this bizarre phone call, Casey Anthony had left the family home
00:16:13.880 with her daughter a month earlier, stating that she had a work assignment in Tampa and
00:16:18.240 would be traveling the entire time.
00:16:20.200 Kaylee's grandparents would ask repeatedly over the following month to see, or at least
00:16:24.740 speak to their granddaughter.
00:16:26.040 But Casey claimed each and every time that she was too busy with work, and that Kaylee
00:16:30.400 was with a nanny who went by the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, or Bro.
00:16:35.660 Gonzales.
00:16:38.720 Zanny for short.
00:16:40.040 On July 15th, it...
00:16:41.640 Zanny for short.
00:16:42.700 Do you want to give the people the background on how you...
00:16:46.840 You found out.
00:16:47.980 You found out.
00:16:48.520 You said it.
00:16:49.100 Yeah.
00:16:49.320 Well, so, as you guys know, Zanny is short for Xanax, right?
00:16:53.360 Which is a drug that helps you go to sleep, and, you know, it's kind of a depressant.
00:16:57.880 Yeah.
00:16:58.500 There were theories that would say that Casey would give Xanax to the baby to make her sleep.
00:17:03.820 Yes.
00:17:04.260 That was one of the theories.
00:17:06.040 Xanax, and you guys are going to see later on, chloroform.
00:17:08.080 So, I don't know where that name, Zenaida, came from, a.k.a. Zanny, but, you know, sometimes
00:17:14.600 when there's a clue, there's a clue, right?
00:17:16.260 Definitely a red flag.
00:17:19.020 Yeah.
00:17:19.840 Exactly six weeks after Kaylee was last seen by her grandparents, George Anthony received
00:17:25.020 a phone call that...
00:17:26.080 It's so important to chat to Zanny Nanny.
00:17:30.040 Zanny the Nanny.
00:17:33.640 Yo!
00:17:35.180 The Eggman Maddie one says that...
00:17:37.220 You guys got no chill, bro.
00:17:40.500 Oh, my God.
00:17:41.100 People are so mean.
00:17:42.480 But it's true, though.
00:17:43.940 Yo, yo, yo.
00:17:44.600 Yeah, Casey didn't deserve her daughter too often, this young mother's neglect their child
00:17:48.540 to live their best life.
00:17:50.160 It's true.
00:17:50.380 Big facts.
00:17:50.800 That's true.
00:17:51.880 Who sent that one in?
00:17:53.100 That was from the enigmatic one?
00:17:55.000 Yes.
00:17:55.280 Yeah, shout out to you, my friend.
00:17:57.400 That's facts.
00:17:58.200 That's big facts.
00:17:58.840 She did not deserve, you know, as you can see, a beautiful little girl.
00:18:02.640 Fucking terrible situation.
00:18:04.280 The family car was at the impound locked.
00:18:07.100 This immediately alerted suspicion, as it was the same car Casey had supposedly been traveling
00:18:12.500 with for work.
00:18:13.560 Suspicion turned into panic once they picked up the vehicle, and George discovered a strong
00:18:18.040 odor emanating from the trunk.
00:18:19.620 One that he recognized from his years as a police officer, and found comparable to that
00:18:24.280 of human decomposition.
00:18:25.940 Through contacting one of Casey's friends, her parents managed to track her down at her
00:18:30.420 boyfriend's house in Orlando, where they were found smoking marijuana and watching TV.
00:18:34.900 Okay, so your kid's been missing, and your parents are trying to find you, and they find you
00:18:41.820 with your boyfriend, who this guy, by the way, is a club promoter in Orlando, guys, and they're
00:18:46.500 just watching a movie Smoking Weed.
00:18:48.820 Like, what the hell?
00:18:50.440 Yeah.
00:18:51.000 Is that like behavior of a mother that is, you know, trying to find her daughter, or, you
00:18:55.780 know...
00:18:55.980 You got all the red flags there.
00:18:57.600 Exactly.
00:18:58.220 Like, what's going on here?
00:18:59.160 Like, aren't you supposed to go be talking to Zannie?
00:19:01.280 Like, hey, where's my kid at?
00:19:02.220 But the important fact about this is that the smell of the car, how do you recognize
00:19:07.800 the smell of, I mean, of a dead body?
00:19:10.680 Yep.
00:19:10.980 How people know that?
00:19:12.180 I mean, apparently the dad of Casey was an ex-cop.
00:19:17.120 Yes, he was.
00:19:17.440 So that's how he knew why the smell would smell like that, you know?
00:19:22.600 Yeah, it's a very...
00:19:23.680 And I can tell you from my experience, too, it's a smell that you never forget.
00:19:27.460 You know, it's a very distinct smell, human decomposition.
00:19:30.600 It's very foul.
00:19:32.220 But once you get it, you don't forget it.
00:19:34.740 So he knew right away from a stranding experience, like, okay, this is a dead body.
00:19:37.780 So at this point, they're probably like, what the hell's going on here?
00:19:40.020 They're probably appearing the worst, right?
00:19:42.000 And then to see Casey's reaction to the situation with this kind of loser promoter boyfriend
00:19:46.680 in Orlando is like, what the hell's going on here?
00:19:49.180 Or from Orlando?
00:19:49.940 If you guys want to know the smell of a dead person, you should grab a piece of meat and
00:19:58.700 leave it in the sun for a week.
00:20:00.560 And there you go.
00:20:01.620 That's it.
00:20:02.100 That's all you need to do.
00:20:02.860 Is that what it is?
00:20:03.400 Yeah.
00:20:03.600 Okay.
00:20:04.180 I never knew you could do it with meat like that.
00:20:06.480 Does it matter what kind of meat?
00:20:07.740 That's no, just this beef, you know, like beef.
00:20:10.780 Mm-hmm.
00:20:11.620 You should try that.
00:20:12.400 You should try people.
00:20:13.780 I'm good.
00:20:14.120 That's the smell of a dead person right there.
00:20:17.400 Holy.
00:20:17.740 Just scared over the whereabouts of her daughter.
00:20:20.320 Casey stated that she had been kidnapped 31 days before by the supposed babysitter.
00:20:25.240 It was at that moment, Cindy Anthony called 911.
00:20:29.120 911, what's your emergency?
00:20:32.180 Who has her?
00:20:33.640 Do you have a name?
00:20:35.080 Her name is Zenaeva Fernandez Gonzalez.
00:20:38.760 Who is that?
00:20:40.020 Babysitter?
00:20:40.840 She's been my nanny for about a year and a half, almost two years.
00:20:45.160 Why are you calling now?
00:20:46.260 Why didn't you call 31 days ago?
00:20:48.340 I've been looking for her and have gone through other resources to try to find her, which is stupid.
00:20:55.780 Other resources.
00:20:57.920 Quote, unquote.
00:20:58.900 Yeah.
00:20:59.120 I went through other resources and that was stupid.
00:21:02.200 So now she's kind of being confronted by the dispatcher.
00:21:04.800 Like, bro, what the hell?
00:21:05.820 Like, even the dispatcher is like, what's going on here?
00:21:08.400 Right?
00:21:08.700 And the dispatcher is stupid.
00:21:10.160 They can notice the big difference in emotion between the two callers.
00:21:14.460 Right?
00:21:14.900 You've got a distraught grandmother and a chilled out, zannied out Casey Anthony, probably.
00:21:20.280 We suppose the mother of the victim.
00:21:22.080 Yeah, exactly.
00:21:24.000 I think the officers are here.
00:21:25.620 The officers are there?
00:21:26.840 Yes.
00:21:27.280 Now let's indulge in the world of fantasy for just a moment and pretend all of what Casey had just stated was true.
00:21:33.860 She had indeed been working, and her daughter was in fact kidnapped by the babysitter a month earlier.
00:21:39.240 The immediate premise, most would gather, would be that Casey had no regard for her daughter whatsoever.
00:21:44.620 In the 911 call, there was no urgency nor concern in her voice, and rather than her volunteering information, which most parents would do in a frantic manner, it had to be acquired by the dispatcher through repeated inquisition.
00:21:57.020 All you have to do is compare Casey's dialogue to that of her mother's in the same phone call.
00:22:02.360 One was indifferent, while the other was distraught.
00:22:05.080 Police would have picked up on this immediately.
00:22:07.400 Even without the bizarre phone call, the circumstances alone would make Casey the prime suspect in her daughter's disappearance.
00:22:13.640 She was immediately interviewed as a witness, which, unbeknownst to her, was the detective's first step in locking her into as many lies as possible.
00:22:21.900 The day right now is July 16, 2008.
00:22:24.240 This is hilarious.
00:22:25.000 Someone in the chat put Casey Zan Anthony.
00:22:27.820 Yeah, I was reading that, too.
00:22:30.760 Yo, this show got no chat.
00:22:32.320 You guys have been waiting a week for this shit, man.
00:22:34.100 Shout out to you guys.
00:22:36.280 I got no chill, man.
00:22:38.740 You guys are hilarious.
00:22:39.680 Anyways, so what we're going to get into now, guys, is the detective interviewing her, okay?
00:22:45.600 And so let me explain real quick how homicide investigations work or whenever there's a missing child or whatever.
00:22:51.480 Typically, guys, most of the time when it comes to a missing child or whatever, the state is going to take the investigation first, right?
00:22:58.620 The only time the feds come in, whether it's the FBI or something like that, is if there's a good chance that the child was kidnapped and transported across state lines, right?
00:23:09.460 Affecting interstate nexus, as we talked about this before.
00:23:11.800 That's typically when the feds get in.
00:23:13.500 But in general, the state always takes over for kidnapping cases in the beginning phases, right?
00:23:18.740 If there's no interstate nexus and for murder, okay?
00:23:21.680 Murder, guys, is almost always exclusively reserved to the states.
00:23:25.200 And the reason for that is because feds only get involved with murder when there's other federal statutes being violated, right?
00:23:31.520 So at this point, you guys can see it says Detective Mellich.
00:23:34.320 That means it's a state case, which I think these guys were from Orange County Sheriff's Office, right?
00:23:39.380 Which is where Orlando is located.
00:23:40.680 That's the county it's in.
00:23:42.340 So he's interviewing her first as a witness in this case because they don't have any reason to believe that a mother would be the perpetrator in their child's disappearance and or death.
00:23:52.300 The time right now is zero for 11 hours.
00:23:55.620 I'm Detective Mellich with the Orange County Sheriff's Office.
00:23:58.120 I am with Casey Anthony.
00:23:59.280 All right, yeah.
00:23:59.720 So the county is doing a not Orlando Police Department.
00:24:02.260 Is that correct?
00:24:02.900 Yes.
00:24:03.360 Casey, you understand this is being recorded?
00:24:05.060 Yes.
00:24:05.360 Do you have any objection to that?
00:24:06.460 No.
00:24:07.620 Casey, I got called here in reference to a missing child.
00:24:11.280 You took Casey to a babysitter's house.
00:24:14.340 Yes.
00:24:14.920 And who was this babysitter?
00:24:16.140 Her name is Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.
00:24:18.660 Okay.
00:24:19.140 How long had you known Zenaida?
00:24:21.100 Almost four years.
00:24:22.080 It'll be four years.
00:24:23.220 All right.
00:24:23.620 So pay attention, guys, to her story as far as like how she knows this woman, how she met this woman, how long she's known this woman, and the other details surrounding this individual.
00:24:32.700 And I say this with air quotes, Zenaida.
00:24:34.840 Okay.
00:24:35.440 A.K.A.
00:24:36.320 Sunny.
00:24:37.220 Zani.
00:24:37.660 A.K.A. Zani.
00:24:38.220 A.K.A.
00:24:38.780 And Helica's cousin.
00:24:40.120 So let's see here what happens.
00:24:44.380 Oh, and also, guys, do me a quick favor.
00:24:46.060 You guys know I hate to stop the show to ask for likes.
00:24:47.880 But, yo, there's 1,100 plus y'all in here.
00:24:49.600 Do me a favor.
00:24:50.400 Like the video, especially since we're right back on YouTube.
00:24:53.260 It's been a week.
00:24:54.080 We're probably down in the algo a bit.
00:24:55.980 You know, we're in YouTube jail.
00:24:57.180 So do me a solid like this video so it gets up in the algorithm and we can get back on, you know, people's radars since we're in YouTube jail for a week.
00:25:03.980 All right, guys, that's all I ask.
00:25:05.180 You know, got to donate a dollar to the show.
00:25:06.920 Just like the video.
00:25:08.000 Subscribe to the channel.
00:25:09.440 And, yeah, man, 200K on the way, as Fresh would say.
00:25:11.640 And where did you meet her?
00:25:13.920 Who did you meet her through?
00:25:15.320 A mutual friend.
00:25:16.320 His name is Jeffrey Michael Hopkins.
00:25:18.660 I met him at Nickelodeon Universal and I met her through him.
00:25:23.440 She was his son's nanny at the time.
00:25:25.740 Does Jeffrey still work at Universal?
00:25:27.540 No, he does not.
00:25:28.460 How long has it been since he left?
00:25:31.340 About nine, ten months, give or take.
00:25:34.960 He moved up to North Carolina for a short time and moved down to Jacksonville within the last three months.
00:25:43.560 How would you characterize your relationship with him?
00:25:45.960 This is hilarious.
00:25:47.060 So this is during the trial, right?
00:25:48.820 Footage from the trial.
00:25:49.860 They're going to actually bring the guy that she's talking about with his long ass name to the trial to testify.
00:25:56.080 See what he says, guys.
00:25:57.360 Anthony.
00:25:57.760 More or less acquaintances.
00:26:01.440 Weren't very good friends?
00:26:03.200 Not very good friends.
00:26:04.640 Did you ever work at Universal Studios?
00:26:10.660 I did.
00:26:11.280 When did you work at Universal Studios?
00:26:13.680 Approximately 2002.
00:26:15.660 How long did you work there for?
00:26:17.980 One year.
00:26:19.000 Did you ever work there at the same time that Casey Anthony worked there?
00:26:23.820 I don't think so.
00:26:25.600 Gotcha, bitch.
00:26:26.220 Never.
00:26:26.720 Never.
00:26:27.160 Never.
00:26:27.740 Did you ever introduce Casey Anthony to a woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez?
00:26:32.700 I did not.
00:26:36.140 Thank you, folks.
00:26:37.300 Bro.
00:26:40.800 So you guys can already see getting caught in a bunch of different lies, right?
00:26:46.720 And it's stupid lies, too.
00:26:48.420 She's lying about stupid stuff.
00:26:50.400 But this goes to speak to her character.
00:26:52.240 And as you guys can see, the way she's speaking to the detectives,
00:26:54.380 she's speaking in a very active voice.
00:26:56.740 She's very confident in herself when she goes ahead and constructs her lies.
00:27:00.140 This goes ahead and speaks to the delusion that this woman lives in.
00:27:05.380 Okay?
00:27:06.140 Ridiculous.
00:27:06.540 She's very manipulative.
00:27:07.860 Yes.
00:27:08.560 Yes.
00:27:09.080 Absolutely manipulative.
00:27:09.980 She knows how to lie.
00:27:11.160 Yep.
00:27:11.420 That's a fact.
00:27:13.640 Hey, man.
00:27:14.260 Book coming soon.
00:27:14.840 Why do women deserve less?
00:27:15.660 Did you ever use Zenaida Gonzalez as a nanny?
00:27:20.820 No, sir.
00:27:21.500 Do you have any children?
00:27:23.460 No, sir.
00:27:25.420 Have you lived in the Orlando area consistently since 2002?
00:27:30.400 Yes, sir.
00:27:31.140 Have you ever lived in Jacksonville?
00:27:32.900 No, sir.
00:27:33.500 Have you ever lived in North Carolina?
00:27:35.520 No, sir.
00:27:37.600 Did you see Casey Anthony in the month of June of 2008?
00:27:42.360 No, sir.
00:27:42.860 These are all the lies he told the investigators.
00:27:46.900 Like, everything they're asking there are lies.
00:27:49.220 Yeah.
00:27:49.720 And, yeah, exactly.
00:27:50.500 And, guys, the prosecution did that, right?
00:27:52.960 They're doing that to illustrate, look, we interviewed her.
00:27:56.220 Here's the recorded interview.
00:27:57.640 We're going to bring the witness in that she actually talked about, okay,
00:28:01.420 and ask him the very things that she talked about and see if she's telling the truth.
00:28:05.240 And she lied about every single fact except the fact that they knew each other
00:28:08.980 and he worked at Universal Studios.
00:28:10.480 That's the only thing she told the truth about.
00:28:11.840 But he had left six years prior.
00:28:14.760 You know what I mean?
00:28:15.140 Like, he was gone in 2002, but she's over here talking about him in 2008.
00:28:18.420 Remember, this all went down in the summer of 2008, guys.
00:28:22.500 So, and the scary part is, right, obviously we're reacting to this case.
00:28:28.600 We know that she's a liar.
00:28:29.800 We know all the facts.
00:28:30.780 But imagine you're the detective, right?
00:28:33.180 You're there.
00:28:34.120 You're trying to find this child.
00:28:35.800 In your head, you're going to presume, like, okay, it's the mother of the child.
00:28:39.760 She's telling me the truth.
00:28:40.620 Like, she wants to get this, even though she's a little maybe weird or whatever.
00:28:43.880 But I'm assuming she cares.
00:28:45.320 The grandmother's distraught.
00:28:46.420 Like, they want the child found.
00:28:47.920 So, I have no reason to not believe them, right?
00:28:50.520 We have the benefit of 2020 hindsight now.
00:28:53.280 But, like, put yourself in the investigator's shoes.
00:28:56.220 You're going to believe everything she tells you.
00:28:57.600 And then it's, and the way she speaks, right?
00:28:59.740 She speaks very matter-of-fact.
00:29:00.860 She's not second-guessing herself.
00:29:02.080 She's like, no, yeah, I know this person, blah, blah, blah.
00:29:04.240 So, it's like, why would you not believe her?
00:29:06.680 So, this is why there was such outrage, right, at the trial.
00:29:10.780 And you're going to see with the detectives, they start to get frustrated with her in a second.
00:29:14.320 But we'll get there.
00:29:15.480 Yes, I'm Angie?
00:29:17.080 I mean, this guy's red hood says here, sociopathy as his finest.
00:29:21.020 That is very true.
00:29:22.300 She was a sociopath.
00:29:23.720 Yeah.
00:29:24.220 I can explain later that.
00:29:25.480 Okay.
00:29:26.100 Oh, yeah, you did some psychology in Venezuela.
00:29:29.180 Yeah.
00:29:29.780 Okay.
00:29:32.500 About a week and a half ago.
00:29:34.000 Do you know a telephone number for him?
00:29:36.580 I can find a number for him.
00:29:38.740 I don't know a number offhand.
00:29:40.220 No, I do not.
00:29:41.220 Yeah, you don't got a solid number for him, of course.
00:29:43.460 Because you don't know this chick.
00:29:45.420 And also, guys, keep in mind, they're interviewing her right here as a witness first.
00:29:49.560 Okay.
00:29:49.740 They have no reason to believe that she's lying to them.
00:29:51.560 They're trying to find the child.
00:29:52.880 Anytime you're looking for a missing child, and I've done these types of cases myself,
00:29:55.920 your priority is to find the child, right?
00:29:58.560 You don't necessarily care about pulling people in jail or anything like that.
00:30:02.080 Your job is to find the child first.
00:30:03.920 That overrides the investigation.
00:30:05.320 That overrides the criminal case.
00:30:06.780 That overrides everything.
00:30:07.840 So, that's why they automatically assume, all right, she's a witness.
00:30:11.140 Help me out.
00:30:11.680 Where the hell can I find this tonight, a woman?
00:30:13.380 We got to find this kid.
00:30:15.080 You met Zania through Jeffrey Hopkins.
00:30:17.260 I did.
00:30:17.800 And his son, Zach Hopkins, I guess.
00:30:19.620 Zania used to watch over Zach?
00:30:20.880 Yes.
00:30:21.860 And when did she start watching over your child?
00:30:23.600 It's been within the last year and a half, two years, that she started watching Kaylee.
00:30:28.100 How would you normally drop off?
00:30:29.400 How would you normally do the exchange with your child and Zania?
00:30:31.520 Would you drop the child off?
00:30:32.460 Would she meet you somewhere?
00:30:33.600 I would usually drop her off.
00:30:35.460 For a few months, we would go over to Jeff's house.
00:30:38.340 He lived over in Avalon Park.
00:30:40.460 And you would go to Jeff's house, why?
00:30:41.940 To drop off Kaylee.
00:30:43.660 That's where Zania would go to watch both of the kids.
00:30:46.320 Okay.
00:30:46.580 It was in a nice centralized area.
00:30:49.140 He had a decent sized house.
00:30:50.600 It was good room for the two of them.
00:30:52.060 This is just some of the lies.
00:30:54.600 These are just some of the lies she said.
00:30:56.640 She said way more lies.
00:30:58.040 She said that this guy, Jeff, will pay the nanny to watch over the two children.
00:31:04.400 Like, his child that even doesn't exist.
00:31:07.160 And Kaylee, the dead baby.
00:31:11.620 Yeah.
00:31:12.240 That just goes to show the extent of the lies and how she would just throw things in there
00:31:18.100 to make it more and more believable.
00:31:19.440 So, she, like, actually believed in the delusion.
00:31:21.360 She believed her own lies.
00:31:23.120 Yeah, that's true.
00:31:23.740 And that's why she's able to speak so convincingly, guys, about it.
00:31:27.360 And, like, really, you guys can tell.
00:31:28.760 She's speaking in an active voice.
00:31:29.960 She's fairly certain about a lot of the lies.
00:31:32.780 Someone says, some of the lies.
00:31:35.580 The chat, y'all, are hilarious.
00:31:37.440 June 9th.
00:31:38.180 And walk me through.
00:31:39.420 You dropped her off to go to work?
00:31:40.580 Mm-hmm.
00:31:40.820 Okay.
00:31:41.580 Get off of work and go from there.
00:31:44.160 I got off of work, left Universal, driving back to pick up Kaylee like a normal day.
00:31:50.540 And I show up to the apartment, knock on the door, nobody answers.
00:31:55.380 So, I call tonight on the cell phone, and it's out of service.
00:32:00.920 I didn't really want to come home.
00:32:03.400 I wasn't sure what I'd say about not knowing where Kaylee was.
00:32:06.500 Still hoping that I would get a call.
00:32:08.460 See how smart she is?
00:32:09.240 She says, oh, the phone is out of service.
00:32:11.420 Because she knows more than likely at some point the detective is going to ask her,
00:32:14.760 yo, what's the phone number?
00:32:16.160 Right?
00:32:16.540 So, if they call the number and it doesn't work or someone else has it,
00:32:20.120 she could say, oh, well, I told you I was out of service.
00:32:22.300 Like, ugh.
00:32:23.320 So, she almost is preemptively setting up her lies,
00:32:26.720 knowing that the detectives are going to try to follow up on it.
00:32:28.800 So, she goes ahead and puts a dead end at the end of the lie to protect herself.
00:32:31.880 This is something that a lot of liars do where they'll give you a piece of information,
00:32:35.100 but what they'll do is they'll walk it back a little bit
00:32:37.720 so that if you actually try to follow up on it,
00:32:39.800 there's plausible deniability for why the lie exists in the way that it does,
00:32:44.400 if that makes sense.
00:32:45.140 Right?
00:32:45.360 So, she says, oh, yeah, I called her number.
00:32:47.640 The next question is, what's her number?
00:32:49.500 Oh, but just so y'all know, it's out of service.
00:32:52.860 Right?
00:32:53.180 So, she's setting herself up with each of the lies,
00:32:55.720 which goes to speak to her deliberate nature of her lies
00:33:02.200 because she's like a step forward of her lies,
00:33:04.740 which is actually pretty shows how vindictive this woman really is, man.
00:33:10.120 Yeah, this guy asked,
00:33:11.840 Myron, if she never made the 911 call,
00:33:15.580 would she still be caught?
00:33:17.500 That's a good question.
00:33:18.440 If the grandma never made the 911 call,
00:33:21.100 there's a good chance that she might have been able to get away with it longer.
00:33:25.020 What do you think?
00:33:26.740 No, I don't think so.
00:33:27.820 I mean, the baby,
00:33:29.320 probably, maybe if the grandmother would have called the 911,
00:33:32.460 maybe another relative would have done it.
00:33:34.960 Yeah, yeah.
00:33:35.440 That's what I'm saying.
00:33:36.040 I think that she would have got away longer.
00:33:37.680 She would have got caught anyway,
00:33:38.880 but I think she would have made it maybe another month.
00:33:41.180 Yeah, but later on,
00:33:42.200 you'll see that other relative people were very worried about the case and the child.
00:33:47.840 Mostly like Casey's best friend,
00:33:49.740 she was seeing the baby as it was like her own baby.
00:33:54.640 Yes, Casey's best friend was also heavily involved in this child's upbringing as well.
00:33:58.500 And you guys are going to see how the family like invest a significant amount to finding the child.
00:34:03.160 And Casey actually starts to get mad about this and jealous.
00:34:06.400 It will seem that everybody was worried about the baby,
00:34:09.240 except like the mother of the baby.
00:34:11.120 Yeah, exactly.
00:34:11.800 Which is wild.
00:34:13.240 Yeah, it is wild.
00:34:14.140 Okay.
00:34:14.800 So we'll go back to the video.
00:34:16.520 Or, you know, find out that Kaylee was coming back so that I could go get her.
00:34:23.580 Shout out to Dr. B84 says,
00:34:25.080 bro, this is clown world.
00:34:25.980 Bro, it is.
00:34:26.560 It is clown world.
00:34:27.780 Facts.
00:34:28.680 Big facts, clown world, man.
00:34:29.880 And I ended up going to my boyfriend Anthony's house, who lives in Sutton Place.
00:34:38.900 Did you talk to Anthony about what happened with Kaylee?
00:34:41.660 No, I did not.
00:34:43.240 And you talked to anyone about Kaylee, about your incident with Kaylee?
00:34:47.960 Outside of a couple people, a couple mutual friends.
00:34:52.300 Who did you talk to about?
00:34:53.200 I talked to Jeff, Jeffrey Hawkins.
00:34:56.740 I talked to Juliette Lewis.
00:34:58.860 She was one of my coworkers at Universal.
00:35:01.220 She works, you still work at Universal?
00:35:02.880 Yes.
00:35:03.480 What do you do at Universal?
00:35:04.460 All right, so she's giving a bunch of names, and she said that she works at Universal.
00:35:07.860 Let's see where this goes.
00:35:10.460 An event coordinator.
00:35:11.840 Okay.
00:35:12.240 What is Juliette, what position is she?
00:35:14.260 Where is she working?
00:35:14.620 She's also an event coordinator.
00:35:16.040 We work in the same department.
00:35:17.980 Juliette Lewis doesn't exist.
00:35:20.080 Casey had briefly worked at Universal, but hadn't been employed there for over two years
00:35:25.080 prior to this interview, and she wasn't an event coordinator.
00:35:28.280 She stood behind a kiosk and sold photos of people after they had been on the Incredible
00:35:32.500 Hulk ride.
00:35:34.240 Stupid.
00:35:35.200 Oh, my God.
00:35:37.260 Bruh.
00:35:38.360 What the hell is going on here?
00:35:40.820 Shout out to Dalpatron.
00:35:42.040 I was a Mexican nanny name generator.
00:35:45.700 Yo, facts.
00:35:46.820 He's feeble.
00:35:47.640 Yo, facts.
00:35:48.500 That's what she did.
00:35:49.060 She just went ahead and got the fucking Mexican nanny name generator.
00:35:55.560 Yo.
00:35:57.660 Number for Juliette?
00:35:58.880 Oh, offhand.
00:36:00.800 I can't think of one.
00:36:01.840 Is she in your SIM card?
00:36:03.180 No, she's not.
00:36:04.200 Some of the more recent numbers, her number just changed because she just moved back up
00:36:08.060 north.
00:36:08.540 She, within the left.
00:36:09.480 Like, Juliette is also a weird-ass name, too.
00:36:11.360 Like, who calls anyone Juliette?
00:36:12.680 Like, yo, if you knew someone for real, you would call them by, like, Julie or Jules or
00:36:17.740 Julia or something like that.
00:36:19.140 Like, people don't use formal names for their friends and people that they really know a
00:36:24.120 lot of the times.
00:36:24.660 Like, they'll be like, oh, yeah, her government name is this, but we call her Julia, whatever.
00:36:27.680 So that was also a red flag, you know?
00:36:29.960 Yeah.
00:36:30.220 So that's also strange.
00:36:32.940 Two months has finished moving up to New York.
00:36:35.900 She's subleasing her apartment.
00:36:37.560 So Juliette doesn't work at the Universal anymore.
00:36:39.220 No, she does not.
00:36:39.900 Okay.
00:36:40.200 So see how she, see what she did?
00:36:41.500 She did it again, guys.
00:36:42.740 She gave a lie and then she gave herself an out.
00:36:45.820 Oh, I don't know her number.
00:36:47.880 She's in New York now.
00:36:49.280 She's subleasing an apartment, so it's going to be harder to find her.
00:36:51.760 She can't even support her own lies.
00:36:53.580 Exactly.
00:36:54.180 So she gives a lie and then she gives herself a nice, you know, backdoor way out, right?
00:36:59.800 And here's the thing.
00:37:00.940 Listening to this interview is giving me like deja vu of like dealing with criminals because
00:37:04.300 this is a great telltale sign that someone's a liar.
00:37:07.300 They give you a fact, right?
00:37:09.420 And then when, and they, it's like, they know that you're going to follow up on that fact.
00:37:13.560 Well, not a fact in this case, but they give you a piece of information.
00:37:17.380 They know you're going to follow up on that piece of information with a little bit more
00:37:19.640 detail.
00:37:20.340 And then they give themselves an out.
00:37:21.340 Oh, I don't know, but I know that they moved to this place in New York, sublease, because
00:37:25.860 it's going to be very difficult for you as an investigator to follow up on that, right?
00:37:29.080 How the hell are you going to find a Juliet that used to work at Universal, subleasing
00:37:32.800 an apartment in New York City?
00:37:34.240 Whose boyfriend's name is Romeo, are people saying?
00:37:36.640 Yeah, like what the hell?
00:37:37.540 Yeah, right?
00:37:38.020 Like what the fuck is going on, bro, right?
00:37:39.420 People say Juliet Lewis was an actual name for an actress.
00:37:43.560 Okay.
00:37:44.220 She gave an actress name.
00:37:45.480 Yeah.
00:37:45.900 So it's wild.
00:37:47.480 Like, what are you going to do?
00:37:48.640 Right?
00:37:48.840 So the detective probably at this point is like, dude, what's going on here?
00:37:51.280 Right?
00:37:51.500 They're probably got some red flags going.
00:37:56.940 What's the reason?
00:37:58.000 I asked you this before.
00:37:59.100 I asked you just for the record.
00:38:00.280 What's the reason you didn't call the police before?
00:38:02.260 Okay.
00:38:02.560 So now this right here, guys, it's probably the turning point for this detective.
00:38:06.740 Right?
00:38:07.100 When he's saying this, now he's like, okay, what the hell is going on?
00:38:09.920 This woman has a convenient excuse for each one of her little statements.
00:38:12.720 What's going on here?
00:38:13.380 I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself, which obviously
00:38:20.460 I couldn't.
00:38:22.380 And I was scared that something would happen to her if I did notify the authorities or
00:38:29.020 got the media involved.
00:38:31.520 Just the fear of the unknown, fear of the potential of Kaylee getting hurt, of not seeing my daughter
00:38:37.820 again.
00:38:38.180 I asked you this to be honest and asked you before we went on tape and I'll ask you again
00:38:43.120 just to make sure we're clear.
00:38:44.820 He's smart.
00:38:45.400 He's doing this on purpose to get it on the record, guys.
00:38:48.080 Right?
00:38:48.660 Because a lot of the times when you bring a suspect in, right, you're building rapport
00:38:51.740 with them.
00:38:52.280 A lot of the stuff doesn't get caught on tape, right?
00:38:54.680 You're like asking them general questions.
00:38:56.560 Tell me about what you're interested in, whatever.
00:38:58.140 It's not like the movies, guys, where you bring the suspect in.
00:39:00.700 Hey, I need you to tell me everything right now.
00:39:03.420 God damn it.
00:39:04.020 Or else like with the little light and it's like flickering around and they're smacking the
00:39:08.160 and I'm around and stuff.
00:39:08.840 Guys, it doesn't work that way.
00:39:10.320 You have to bring the suspect in and build rapport, shoot the shit with them a little
00:39:14.340 bit, talk about life, ask them about family, ask them about their kid in this case, maybe
00:39:19.200 a deceased child that they may or may not have been involved in the disappearance and
00:39:21.840 murder of.
00:39:22.200 You got to go ahead and build rapport with the individual first so you can go ahead and
00:39:26.320 get the information out of them after the fact.
00:39:28.760 Because when you're an investigator, whether you're a detective, special agent, whatever
00:39:31.640 it is, people are scared to talk to you, right?
00:39:33.980 So you got to get them to talk to you and you got to break that stigma early.
00:39:36.860 So a lot of the times you're just shooting the crap.
00:39:39.900 I've told you guys before, I've been in interviews with child molesters, terrorists, the drug
00:39:46.000 traffickers, killers, et cetera.
00:39:47.580 I shoot the crap with them for an hour talking about video games sometimes, or I'll talk about
00:39:51.460 sports or I'll talk about interests and hobbies.
00:39:54.340 I'll talk about whatever they like.
00:39:56.040 So they will feel comfortable, right?
00:39:58.960 Yes.
00:39:59.380 With you.
00:39:59.980 Absolutely.
00:40:00.460 To build rapport.
00:40:01.260 Yes, you have to.
00:40:02.400 It's not like the movies where it's like you're yelling at them in a dark room.
00:40:04.880 It doesn't work that way.
00:40:05.760 They could just say, oh, I want a lawyer.
00:40:07.380 And then you're done.
00:40:08.500 You can't talk to them anymore.
00:40:09.780 Right?
00:40:09.980 This isn't, this ain't the CIA where you're waterboarding people like, oh, you don't want
00:40:12.860 to talk.
00:40:13.540 Okay.
00:40:14.020 Get the towel.
00:40:15.780 Like it doesn't work that way, man.
00:40:17.440 When you're doing criminal investigations, you need to be able to get the information
00:40:19.840 legally and lawfully.
00:40:21.220 A lot of times these interviews are recorded.
00:40:22.480 So you have to build rapport with the individual.
00:40:24.360 So it'll be happened where like for the first hour, I'll sit there and talk with them
00:40:27.860 about video games or some other random stuff.
00:40:30.400 Yeah.
00:40:30.780 And that opens them up and then bam, I'm able to get information.
00:40:33.360 So the reason why this detective guys is saying, okay, I'm going to say this and reiterate
00:40:36.820 this again is because he knows he's recorded now.
00:40:38.940 So he wants to go ahead and get her statements videotaped because here's the other beauty
00:40:42.860 that you guys got to know.
00:40:45.420 Since she is a witness, he doesn't have to Mirandize her.
00:40:49.420 Okay.
00:40:49.640 He doesn't have to tell you have the right to remain silent.
00:40:51.420 Anything you can say to be used against you in the court of law, blah, blah, blah, blah,
00:40:53.120 blah.
00:40:53.280 Cause he's interviewing her as a witness at this point.
00:40:56.060 She's not a suspect.
00:40:57.080 So now in his head, he's like, okay, son's off.
00:41:01.240 Let me try to, you know, get as much out of this chick as I can now while she's a witness.
00:41:06.260 Cause I think she's probably going to lie to me so I can at least lock her up in this
00:41:10.680 statement.
00:41:11.100 Now that's why he's asking these questions again on the record, because at this point
00:41:15.260 he's starting to suspect that she's lying and he needs to lock her in a statement so
00:41:18.980 that they can use it against her later on.
00:41:20.780 And this is one of the benefits of when you interview someone as a witness first, right?
00:41:25.520 You're going in, you lock them in, in a story.
00:41:28.440 And then if they end up turning to be a suspect right through investigation, you have a statement
00:41:33.440 already.
00:41:33.900 So they have to like take advantage of, of her kind of before she calls a lawyer to a degree.
00:41:40.580 Yeah.
00:41:40.880 To a degree.
00:41:41.380 I would say at this point in the interview, the detective is probably starting to suspect
00:41:44.960 that she might be involved.
00:41:46.320 So he's like, all right, let me just, let me just start to go ahead and get her locked into
00:41:50.100 a statement at this point from a witness standpoint.
00:41:52.560 So the detective is actually very smart here playing a 4D chess.
00:41:55.620 Is there anything about this story that you're telling me that is untrue or is there anything
00:42:02.040 that you want?
00:42:02.400 Guys, like the video because ain't nobody else on YouTube, a former investigator telling
00:42:05.940 you guys what detectives are thinking about when they're interviewing suspects and or
00:42:09.080 witnesses.
00:42:09.560 So like the video, subscribe to the channel.
00:42:13.340 Angie, drop your Instagram because they've been asking for it for a bit.
00:42:16.000 What is it?
00:42:16.360 Okay.
00:42:16.640 It's so Angelica, Angelica with two A's at the end.
00:42:20.840 There you go, guys.
00:42:21.580 So Angelica with two A's at the end.
00:42:23.020 Go ahead and send a dick pic.
00:42:24.280 Can I change or divert from what you've already told me?
00:42:26.580 No, sir.
00:42:34.240 Did you cause an injury to your child, Kaylee?
00:42:36.480 No, sir.
00:42:36.940 See, so now, like I said before, he's locking her in a statement, right?
00:42:40.160 To see the lunacy because this is the point where he's starting to shift.
00:42:42.880 Did you hurt Kaylee or leave her somewhere and you're worried that if we find that out
00:42:47.880 that people are going to look at you the wrong way?
00:42:49.620 No, sir.
00:42:51.500 And you're telling me that Zenaida took your child without your permission and hasn't returned
00:42:55.200 her?
00:42:55.360 She's the last person that I've seen with my daughter, yes.
00:42:58.260 Is she Puerto Rican?
00:42:59.160 Is she Dominican?
00:42:59.960 Is she white?
00:43:00.480 She's mixed.
00:43:01.780 She's black and Puerto Rican.
00:43:06.620 What?
00:43:07.620 What?
00:43:09.900 What the fuck?
00:43:10.740 And just so you guys know, the reason why she's saying Puerto Rican is because in Orlando,
00:43:15.840 Central Florida, a huge Puerto Rican population.
00:43:19.540 So that's why she's saying that.
00:43:21.120 Right?
00:43:21.320 You come down to Miami, we don't have as many Puerto Ricans as Central Florida.
00:43:24.860 But Orlando?
00:43:26.220 Run by the Puerto Ricans, man.
00:43:27.560 But she said also that Zenaida was from New York or all her family was from New York
00:43:32.040 and a lot of Puerto Ricans are in New York as well.
00:43:34.280 That too, as well.
00:43:34.840 Yeah.
00:43:35.080 Good point.
00:43:35.700 Good point.
00:43:36.020 Yeah.
00:43:36.260 So, and also, I want to let you all know, guys, that he doesn't have to Mirandize her
00:43:40.200 also because she's not under arrest at this point, guys.
00:43:43.360 He's interviewing her.
00:43:44.620 She's free to leave.
00:43:46.120 It's not a custodial interview.
00:43:47.600 So he's gathering as much facts as he can.
00:43:49.500 This is almost kind of a freebie for the detective to get a free statement from her now that he's
00:43:53.100 starting to suspect that she might be involved in the situation, in the criminal activity.
00:43:57.240 Is there any underlying cause to why Zenaida was taking her child?
00:44:04.060 Nothing that...
00:44:04.960 She ever make any statements to you about...
00:44:07.020 Only how much she loves Kaylee and how great of a kid she is.
00:44:11.200 And when you talk to Jeffrey afterwards, I'm assuming that Jeffrey's child is still with
00:44:14.900 him?
00:44:15.200 His child is still with him.
00:44:17.160 You said Zenaida had family up in New England, up in New York?
00:44:20.180 Yes.
00:44:20.440 She has family down south, her mother, her sister, her brother's in New York.
00:44:26.340 She's originally from New York.
00:44:27.820 Pretty much grew up there, moved down here, went to the University of Florida.
00:44:32.740 Zenaida, the nanny, doesn't exist.
00:44:35.500 Casey never had a babysitter.
00:44:37.340 Being the retrospective viewer, we have the benefit of knowing these are outright fabrications.
00:44:42.180 And these meticulous details are a textbook sign of a pathological liar.
00:44:46.240 She speaks eloquently and naturally as if her dialogue is a reflex response to the questions
00:44:51.500 she's being asked.
00:44:52.780 When in reality, each of these minor details are calculated and deliberately placed for
00:44:57.380 the purpose of deception.
00:44:58.700 And the nonchalant, easygoing tone she employs is used to camouflage anxiety.
00:45:04.120 Casey has not only become accustomed to manipulation, she has become extremely skilled in how to use
00:45:09.380 it effectively.
00:45:10.280 It takes us to the concept of nurture and how it most likely had a significant impact on her
00:45:15.140 current circumstances.
00:45:16.440 If we go through what we know about Casey's domestic history.
00:45:19.700 All right, guys, this is very telling stuff right here.
00:45:21.480 Pay attention because you guys are going to see literally the epitome of lack of accountability
00:45:27.960 being reinforced throughout this woman's life.
00:45:30.520 There are numerous occasions where she had gotten away with things that most would not
00:45:34.340 simply due to the fact that she was able to continuously lie without conscience.
00:45:38.360 A prime example could be when she was 18 years old and stopped attending class midway
00:45:43.240 through her senior year.
00:45:44.320 She literally skipped the entire second half of her final year to go hang out with her
00:45:48.720 older boyfriend.
00:45:49.820 Her parents became suspicious on several occasions, yet each and every time, Casey had some whimsical
00:45:55.300 excuse to which she was given the benefit of the doubt.
00:45:58.120 Then just days before graduation, her parents were informed by the school of her truancy and
00:46:03.300 that she would not be graduating.
00:46:04.880 When confronted, Casey's excuse was that her timetable was mixed up by the school, causing
00:46:09.600 her to miss classes through no fault of her own.
00:46:12.000 This is obviously a completely baffling excuse that no sane person would ever believe.
00:46:16.960 Yet whether it be through denial or an overprotective nature, Casey's parents not only took her at
00:46:22.300 her word, but even shielded her from the consequences of her actions.
00:46:26.060 They lied to all their family friends that she graduated with honors and even threw her an
00:46:30.580 extravagant graduation party the day after.
00:46:32.980 This is just one of the guys.
00:46:35.060 Holy yo.
00:46:38.820 The parents of the year.
00:46:40.220 Yeah.
00:46:40.540 Parents of the year.
00:46:41.500 L parenting guys.
00:46:43.100 Like, yo.
00:46:44.400 She missed the whole half of her second year of her senior year.
00:46:48.280 The whole second half.
00:46:49.320 And she's like, oh, yo.
00:46:50.420 Like they just didn't mark me there.
00:46:51.980 I was in class.
00:46:52.840 They just marked me not there.
00:46:54.040 What the hell?
00:46:55.020 Like, yo.
00:46:55.780 They shielded her.
00:46:56.480 They shielded her.
00:46:57.160 And this is why this is the recipe like this parents right here.
00:47:02.440 This is the recipe to create like psycho kids, you know, like it spoiled your kids too much.
00:47:08.560 This is what you get.
00:47:09.480 Yeah.
00:47:10.000 Crazy people.
00:47:11.040 Good point.
00:47:12.140 I mean, this is what happens when you hold your children accountable, guys, because I've
00:47:15.880 said it before.
00:47:16.400 I'll say it again.
00:47:17.140 The parents, especially the father, is the first line of defense to the child understanding
00:47:23.880 that there's consequences when you do stupid stuff in life.
00:47:28.040 Okay.
00:47:28.340 I was going to say stupid stuff, but I'm trying to keep it clean here.
00:47:31.860 I keep getting yellow marks on YouTube, but this is the there's consequences when you
00:47:35.960 make, you know, stupid mistakes in life.
00:47:38.820 And the father is supposed to be there to be that first line of defense to teach you,
00:47:41.720 yo, you're not supposed to do this.
00:47:43.500 Clearly, they didn't do that.
00:47:45.300 And then what happens?
00:47:47.040 This bad habit, this bad mindset continues on throughout life.
00:47:52.180 And then now she's an adult.
00:47:53.880 Making stupid decisions, right?
00:47:55.940 Allegedly killing her daughter and thinking, oh, it wasn't me.
00:48:01.560 She got kidnapped by Zenaida.
00:48:03.600 Like, I had nothing to do with this.
00:48:05.500 No, I read somewhere that people, even they're like Casey's friends.
00:48:11.700 Throughout like high school and everything and everything in her life, she will lie to
00:48:16.420 everybody.
00:48:17.120 She will make up like stories.
00:48:18.720 She will say anything about her life that wasn't true.
00:48:21.760 And people will believe her.
00:48:23.040 Yeah.
00:48:23.820 So that's what fucked up that crazy.
00:48:26.220 No, it's very true.
00:48:27.060 Like people weren't able to get a read on her guys.
00:48:28.820 A lot of her high school classmates.
00:48:30.160 Also like this was like she was kind of go with the flow, but she didn't have her own
00:48:34.040 personality.
00:48:34.860 She was very malleable depending on the situation that she was in, which you can't trust people
00:48:38.760 like that.
00:48:39.340 This is why you can't be around.
00:48:40.600 Yes, men can't be around.
00:48:41.620 Yes, women.
00:48:41.940 You need people that are able to kind of challenge your views or give you a different perspective,
00:48:46.320 et cetera.
00:48:46.660 She didn't have that.
00:48:47.980 She just kind of conformed to whatever situation she was in.
00:48:50.700 It just kind of went with the flow, which those people are very dangerous.
00:48:54.340 Okay.
00:48:54.740 Because you don't know where they really stand.
00:48:56.320 One of the many occurrences where Casey faced no ramifications for misconduct, it seemed
00:49:02.500 to give her the belief that no matter what she did, as long as she could spin one lie
00:49:06.520 after another, or at least drag a lie out for as long as possible.
00:49:09.760 And also, let's be honest here, guys.
00:49:11.180 She's not ugly.
00:49:12.120 She's not an ugly woman.
00:49:13.020 I mean, obviously, we're seeing her trial pictures, right, when she has no makeup on
00:49:16.060 and stuff like that.
00:49:17.040 But she's not an ugly girl.
00:49:19.040 So, and remember, in Orlando, this girl's like going to be hot in the eyes of most people
00:49:22.920 in Orlando.
00:49:23.420 In Miami, she wouldn't.
00:49:24.400 No one give a shit in Miami.
00:49:25.700 I'll be honest here.
00:49:26.880 They don't care in Miami.
00:49:29.300 But in Orlando, right, she's going to be attractive to a majority of men, bro.
00:49:33.440 And a lot of the times, pretty privilege is real.
00:49:36.320 So you have parents that reinforce your bad behavior, don't punish you for it.
00:49:39.940 Then you got society who is going to give you the benefit of doubt and you're a pathological
00:49:43.660 liar.
00:49:44.020 Think about it.
00:49:44.580 No one is holding you accountable for your decisions.
00:49:46.560 Well, apparently, Casey was very dependent on their relationships, too.
00:49:50.300 She had lots of boyfriends.
00:49:52.380 Oh, yeah, I believe that.
00:49:53.260 I believe that.
00:49:53.980 She had 304.
00:49:54.600 Which you guys are going to see that here in a second.
00:49:57.160 What she ended up doing during those 31 days.
00:50:00.200 Possible.
00:50:00.860 Everything would work itself out.
00:50:02.560 The truth is that everything did work itself out when she was dealing with her parents.
00:50:06.700 And she evidently thought the same rules applied with regard to national law and a missing
00:50:11.240 child's investigation.
00:50:12.860 After the initial statement you just heard, Casey was asked if she could take police to
00:50:17.360 all places of interest.
00:50:18.580 She happily obliged and then proceeded to lead them to a multitude of fake addresses, which
00:50:25.140 she had nothing to do with.
00:50:26.240 She then took them to her supposed office at Universal Studios and literally led three
00:50:31.260 senior investigators to the very end of the building, taking over 25 minutes to walk to
00:50:35.960 before she finally turned around, put her hands in her back pockets, laughed, and admitted
00:50:40.780 that she didn't work there.
00:50:41.920 She literally did like haha to the business.
00:50:54.200 Yeah, seriously.
00:50:55.020 Could you imagine?
00:50:56.240 I used to work at this place.
00:50:58.260 Let me take you out here.
00:50:59.600 And then next thing you know, it's like, oh no, my bad dog.
00:51:03.060 I didn't used to work here.
00:51:04.060 Like what's going on?
00:51:05.240 We're speaking to which guys, I'm going to go ahead and show you guys a clip from the
00:51:07.780 detective that was involved in this situation, okay, and he's going to reaccount how she
00:51:13.920 took them on this wild goose chase.
00:51:15.840 All right, this is one of the detectives that was involved in the case.
00:51:17.920 I mean, it really doesn't faze her.
00:51:20.160 That's amazing.
00:51:21.280 So, I mean, it really is amazing to me.
00:51:23.000 She's 22 years old.
00:51:23.940 She has no criminal record.
00:51:25.120 Correct.
00:51:25.720 You place her under arrest for child neglect and she has no...
00:51:28.780 We will arrest her and charge her with child neglect.
00:51:31.320 Seemed worried about that child.
00:51:33.160 Except for Casey.
00:51:34.640 The child's mother.
00:51:35.360 Yeah.
00:51:35.520 In hindsight, you know, was there something else that could have been done differently?
00:51:39.700 I honestly don't believe anything we would have done would have prompted her to tell the truth.
00:51:43.660 I'm going to find a part where she took them on a wild goose chase.
00:51:44.440 Did you ask?
00:51:45.140 Okay.
00:51:45.740 Why?
00:51:46.580 Well, because we were at a point where we had done everything else.
00:51:50.720 Melch, now he's spent time with her.
00:51:52.700 He has driven her around.
00:51:54.240 She's shown him this apartment where Zanny then Annie lives.
00:51:57.160 Nobody's lived in that apartment.
00:51:58.420 We know this is all essentially made up.
00:52:00.660 And so, at this point, Melch and I interview her in a conference room there at Universal Studios.
00:52:06.400 As I go through my investigation, I'm discovering a series of questions that need answering.
00:52:12.320 Like, should they have...
00:52:13.320 So, they used it in trial, guys, how she made them walk around for 20 plus minutes in Universal Studios.
00:52:18.680 And she walked into this, like, building.
00:52:20.500 No, no, only Universal Studios.
00:52:22.560 She took them to two or three different addresses.
00:52:26.240 Yes.
00:52:26.720 That didn't exist.
00:52:27.660 Yes.
00:52:27.940 There were nobody living there.
00:52:30.800 Whereas Zanny, the nanny, was living there.
00:52:33.040 Zanny.
00:52:33.620 You know what I mean?
00:52:34.300 And Jeff.
00:52:35.060 And Jeff.
00:52:36.380 Well, Jeff.
00:52:36.780 Considered another way to interrogate Casey.
00:52:40.360 Everything that's coming out of your mouth is a lie.
00:52:41.900 So, obviously, they're very frustrated at that point.
00:52:43.720 I'm trying to find...
00:52:44.340 Hold on.
00:52:45.440 Okay.
00:52:45.840 Hold on.
00:52:46.620 Set the computer.
00:52:47.240 He goes, that person's not an employee.
00:52:50.140 No, there's no reason to go to my office.
00:52:51.920 And what were you thinking would happen when she's confronted with the lie about working at Universal?
00:52:55.800 So, they know at this point that she's lying about working at Universal.
00:53:00.000 So, they're like, you know what?
00:53:00.800 Yo, you got an office there, don't you?
00:53:02.680 And watch what they do here.
00:53:03.780 Gotcha, bitch.
00:53:04.840 We figure at this point, maybe she'll tell the truth.
00:53:08.580 But instead, as we're on the road and I ask her, why don't we go by your office at Universal
00:53:13.020 and maybe we'll find evidence out there that will help us.
00:53:16.300 And she agrees.
00:53:17.420 She says, absolutely.
00:53:18.100 Let's go there and we'll look.
00:53:19.300 No hesitation.
00:53:20.100 Imagine, like, yo, the craziness.
00:53:22.920 I'm there with three detectives, right?
00:53:24.680 And they're trying to find my daughter.
00:53:27.320 And I know I don't work at Universal no more.
00:53:30.100 I know I don't got an office.
00:53:31.640 But you know what?
00:53:32.720 Fuck it.
00:53:33.880 Let's go, guys.
00:53:35.320 Let's do this.
00:53:36.660 You know what I mean?
00:53:37.180 Like, yo, this is wild.
00:53:38.680 So, let's...
00:53:39.680 She was fucked up.
00:53:41.540 And the wild part is she's sober during all this stuff.
00:53:45.240 She ain't even drunk or nothing.
00:53:46.440 She's just sober.
00:53:47.200 Like, yeah, let's do it.
00:53:48.420 None whatsoever.
00:53:49.240 I mean, and so we drive there and we follow her as she walks to the employee entrance.
00:53:54.100 And we essentially watch the interaction between Casey and the security guard where he's telling her.
00:53:58.980 So, they're smart.
00:53:59.640 They're like, all right, let's sit back and see how she interacts with the other employees here.
00:54:04.160 So, she walks up to the security guard first.
00:54:05.740 Watch this.
00:54:06.720 I'm sorry.
00:54:07.320 We don't have a Casey Anthony employee here.
00:54:09.720 Casey goes, no, no, I work here.
00:54:11.520 I just don't have my employee ID.
00:54:13.120 Look again.
00:54:13.880 He looks again.
00:54:15.380 And then he asks her, he says, well, what's your supervisor's name?
00:54:18.560 And Casey just makes up a name.
00:54:20.000 And the security guard looks at the computer.
00:54:21.640 He goes, that person's not an employee here either.
00:54:25.420 And so...
00:54:26.220 Bro, like...
00:54:28.080 And imagine, like, how she's, like...
00:54:31.120 The crazy part is she has three investigators for her.
00:54:33.620 The audacity.
00:54:34.320 Right?
00:54:34.640 The audacity to drag them all the way to Universal Studios.
00:54:37.800 She has three investigators with her.
00:54:39.380 She goes up to the security guard.
00:54:40.660 And guys, she's doing this all calm, collected.
00:54:45.040 Oh, no.
00:54:45.600 There's no way.
00:54:46.340 I work here.
00:54:47.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
00:54:48.220 The one thing about Casey Anthony that you guys are going to notice from a lot of the people that were involved in this investigation is that she was always calm and collected.
00:54:56.880 All right?
00:54:58.860 So...
00:54:59.300 Even when she was caught in her life, she was, like, calm.
00:55:02.020 She was always calm.
00:55:03.200 And the security director...
00:55:04.840 I guess the Zannie's worked out or something.
00:55:07.220 ...director directs him to let us in.
00:55:08.180 So at this point, Detective Mellich, Detective Wells, Casey, the security director and myself, we walked the back area at Universal.
00:55:16.820 And we...
00:55:16.940 So, bam.
00:55:17.400 That's the entrance right here.
00:55:19.240 And this is where they ended up.
00:55:20.860 25 minutes.
00:55:21.480 We walked to the HR building.
00:55:23.500 We entered the HR building.
00:55:25.960 And this whole time, we're essentially making small talk.
00:55:28.880 You know, there's no urgency or there's no real concern.
00:55:33.240 So she's not stressed.
00:55:34.140 She's relaxed.
00:55:35.400 Absolutely.
00:55:36.440 Casey begins waving at people who are busy at their desks working.
00:55:39.940 And these people are waving back.
00:55:41.420 And you can kind of tell they're confused about why we're there.
00:55:44.840 And so...
00:55:45.140 Oh, my God.
00:55:47.700 Bro.
00:55:48.340 So you got three detectives with you.
00:55:50.180 You're walking through the HR area, the office area.
00:55:53.280 Hey.
00:55:53.680 Yeah.
00:55:53.880 What up, bro?
00:55:54.560 Hey.
00:55:54.880 And they're like, who's this bitch?
00:55:58.480 Who is this fucking bitch, right?
00:56:00.440 Could you imagine?
00:56:01.300 And she's just like, just going out with the lie.
00:56:03.160 Like, let's just keep going here.
00:56:04.900 You know what I mean?
00:56:05.480 Like, hey, what's up, guys?
00:56:06.780 Yeah.
00:56:07.500 They're like, bro, what the hell is going on, man?
00:56:11.020 What?
00:56:11.360 Delusional.
00:56:12.160 She listened to this.
00:56:13.260 She was trying to manifest the job.
00:56:17.240 This guy.
00:56:18.380 Manifest the job.
00:56:20.080 Yo.
00:56:21.100 This is the definition of manifesting the job right here.
00:56:23.860 Finally, we turn down a hallway, and it's a dead end.
00:56:27.440 And at this point, Casey looks at us and says, I don't really work here.
00:56:33.360 And she laughed as well, guys.
00:56:35.200 Oh, sorry, guys.
00:56:36.560 I don't really work here.
00:56:38.320 Yeah.
00:56:38.600 No shit.
00:56:39.760 Oh, man.
00:56:40.560 All right.
00:56:40.740 Let's get back into it.
00:56:42.680 The detectives placed her under arrest and took her to a conference room in the building
00:56:46.820 for what was essentially an interrogation.
00:56:49.380 And they arrested her for child neglect, guys, at this point.
00:56:51.940 Right?
00:56:52.100 Because at this point, it's like, come on, man.
00:56:53.460 What the hell is going on here?
00:56:55.480 I left you this morning.
00:56:56.560 I've gone to every address that you've told me.
00:56:58.480 I came over here.
00:56:59.380 I've already talked to all the employees.
00:57:01.040 I found out all these names you've given me are people that either never worked here
00:57:04.120 or have been fired here for a long time ago.
00:57:05.900 Okay?
00:57:06.720 So where we are right now is in a position that doesn't look very good for you.
00:57:11.520 Because obviously, I know, and you know, that everything you've told me is a lie.
00:57:15.080 Correct?
00:57:16.300 Not everything that I told you.
00:57:17.660 Pretty much everything that you've told me.
00:57:18.900 Including where Kaylee is right now.
00:57:20.640 Yeah.
00:57:21.040 And you know, let me speak about this real quick for you guys.
00:57:23.360 You have to be very mad at this girl.
00:57:25.940 Yeah.
00:57:27.360 So I've done investigations, guys, with missing kids before.
00:57:31.460 And let me tell you guys, anytime you have a missing child, I remember one big one I had was
00:57:35.480 there was a kid that we thought had got kidnapped and taken to Mexico.
00:57:39.040 And anytime you have a missing child, we drop everything.
00:57:45.660 Everything gets dropped.
00:57:46.800 I remember it was like midnight or something like that.
00:57:49.400 And I got a call from my partner.
00:57:52.640 He was on call that night.
00:57:54.040 He was like, hey, bro, we got this lead.
00:57:55.760 This girl is missing, et cetera, et cetera.
00:57:57.980 There was a lead.
00:57:58.540 She had been, you know, taken from Houston, Texas, brought down to Laredo, Texas, and brought
00:58:02.060 across the border.
00:58:02.900 It was a minor, et cetera.
00:58:05.480 Guys, we don't even really, the group that I was in, we don't really investigate kidnappings
00:58:09.800 of children, but we dropped everything that we were doing and we went ahead and we took
00:58:13.640 it on.
00:58:14.100 You know what I mean?
00:58:14.500 Because we were on call that night.
00:58:15.540 It is what it is.
00:58:16.440 We called our supervisor.
00:58:17.660 We called everyone that we knew.
00:58:18.900 I called all my contacts from DPS.
00:58:20.660 Hell, I didn't even get along with the FBI like that.
00:58:23.180 We were in contact with them.
00:58:24.800 We're doing everything to find a scroll.
00:58:26.320 We went down to the international bridge, looked at all the cameras.
00:58:30.900 We were up until what?
00:58:32.300 Seven, eight o'clock that morning.
00:58:33.400 Um, and we ended up finding where the girl was, you know, thank God.
00:58:36.900 But the point I'm trying to make here is that anytime you have a missing child, everything
00:58:41.660 for that department, that squad, that group, whatever gets dropped and you, it's all hands
00:58:46.860 on deck to find a missing child.
00:58:48.420 So the reason why these detect, and I'm trying to push you guys in their shoes a little bit
00:58:52.300 from an investigator standpoint, they probably haven't slept.
00:58:54.820 They probably have barely been eating.
00:58:56.440 They've been focusing on this case or only they've dropped everything else they're doing.
00:59:00.380 The entire department is involved.
00:59:01.560 You got search parties going around, you have, uh, you know, the media involved where
00:59:06.480 you're, uh, you have leads coming in, et cetera.
00:59:08.720 There's been a ridiculous amount of resources, time and effort, uh, you know, being used to
00:59:15.680 find this kid.
00:59:16.240 And you're dealing with the mom and you're assuming the mom wants to get to find the
00:59:20.020 kid.
00:59:20.320 So she leads you on this wild goose chase.
00:59:22.780 She's doing all this wild stuff.
00:59:24.180 She's lying to you, et cetera.
00:59:25.140 So as an investigator, right, your job is to find the kid first.
00:59:29.940 You don't care about a criminal case.
00:59:31.120 Your job is to find the kid first.
00:59:33.740 So anybody that gets in your way of finding the child is an enemy.
00:59:39.160 It's a suspect, right?
00:59:40.100 They're a suspect and they're an enemy.
00:59:41.560 And you look at them like, fuck you.
00:59:43.080 I'm going to ruin your life because all these hours that I spent dealing with you, that
00:59:48.900 I could have went to, you know, diverted to go in to find this kid.
00:59:51.800 Because the thing is, guys, anytime you have a missing child, every hour that ticks by the
00:59:56.040 likelihood of finding that child alive diminishes.
00:59:58.760 Now, at this point, it's been 30 days, right?
01:00:00.520 So they're at this point, they're probably trying to find a body or they're, or, you
01:00:04.000 know, they, they, well, there's this nanny.
01:00:05.840 So they think that the kid's alive, actually.
01:00:07.260 Let me rephrase that.
01:00:08.240 They think the kid's alive.
01:00:09.080 So they're moving with speed because every hour that ticks by the chance of finding the
01:00:12.760 kid alive goes down.
01:00:14.320 So you can, um, and I'm trying to give you guys like an investigator's perspective here
01:00:19.140 of why they're being, why they're so angry.
01:00:21.860 Now, normally you're not supposed to put your emotions in an investigation, but when there's
01:00:26.360 kids involved, bro, a lot of these guys have children, they have daughters, they have
01:00:30.480 sons, they have children that are this age.
01:00:32.520 So it's very difficult for you to not have your emotions involved when you're looking for
01:00:36.240 a child.
01:00:36.720 I mean, I'm not going to lie to y'all.
01:00:37.580 When I was looking for the kid, I was putting all my effort in.
01:00:39.440 I've got no kids.
01:00:40.040 I don't want no kids, but I can only imagine, right?
01:00:42.840 If someone else is trying to find their child, I'm going to do everything I can.
01:00:45.260 I'm a single guy.
01:00:45.800 I don't fucking have shit to lose.
01:00:46.920 I spent all day looking for that kid and I'll do it gladly.
01:00:49.360 It was actually one of the most fulfilling things.
01:00:51.080 So when someone gets in the way, you get a certain rage and you, yeah, you get emotionally
01:00:56.260 invested because you're trying to find that child.
01:00:58.480 So that is why you guys are about to witness the anger, the frustration, uh, and the tone
01:01:04.960 that the detectives are about to have with Casey, who's supposed to be the fucking mother,
01:01:08.740 the guardian and protector.
01:01:10.300 That's why they're so angry.
01:01:11.420 You have something, Angie?
01:01:12.280 Yeah.
01:01:12.680 She was, she, she should be like the most suspected person to help the investigators.
01:01:16.540 And she was the least, like, she was the worst.
01:01:19.080 Good point.
01:01:19.840 Yeah.
01:01:20.680 So that is why they're so frustrated.
01:01:22.440 We're going to, you guys are going to see that here in a second.
01:01:24.000 So again, you know, you should always, uh, divorce your emotions from investigations,
01:01:28.660 but when you haven't slept, when you haven't eaten, you've been prioritizing finding this
01:01:33.440 kid.
01:01:34.140 And still, they got like very easy on her.
01:01:36.880 Yeah.
01:01:37.200 Yeah.
01:01:37.360 There's still, yeah.
01:01:37.820 I think they're being nice.
01:01:38.600 What you guys are about to see, I would have, I would have been way meaner to this chick
01:01:41.700 at this point.
01:01:42.480 You know what I mean?
01:01:43.200 Uh, but yeah, man, every, it's all hands on deck when there's a missing child, guys.
01:01:49.260 That I still, I don't know where she is.
01:01:51.360 Sure you do.
01:01:52.140 And here, let me, let me, let me explain something.
01:01:55.620 Looking at you, I know that everything that you've told me is a lie.
01:01:58.800 I am very confident just by having talked to you in a short period of time that you
01:02:01.820 know where she is.
01:02:02.600 I legitimately have not seen my daughter in five weeks.
01:02:06.060 I didn't let anything happen to her, except I trusted her with somebody, somebody that had
01:02:11.160 been taking care of her, that had been taking good care of her.
01:02:13.700 All right.
01:02:13.960 So they just, we just caught her in a lie, didn't we guys?
01:02:15.880 Remember when she first talked to 911?
01:02:18.020 She said, oh, uh, I spoke to my daughter for a moment.
01:02:22.000 Remember that?
01:02:22.740 Yeah.
01:02:23.200 So we just caught her in a lie.
01:02:24.700 Gotcha, bitch.
01:02:26.500 Someone that she was comfortable with, that I was comfortable with.
01:02:28.340 What about Jeff?
01:02:29.240 You said Jeff worked here until about two months ago?
01:02:32.180 No, he hasn't worked here for quite a while.
01:02:33.900 Ten months?
01:02:34.500 How long?
01:02:35.240 It's been at least ten months.
01:02:37.280 He got fired in 2002.
01:02:38.940 He hasn't been an employee.
01:02:39.680 Hey, they already knew they asked her the questions.
01:02:43.120 Gotcha, bitch.
01:02:46.260 We've put a lot more together than I think you realize we've put together.
01:02:49.740 My question to you is we're in this office because our purpose in coming...
01:02:53.240 So now they're starting to ask her questions that they already know the answer to, to see,
01:02:55.840 to gauge her truthfulness, which they know she's going to lie anyway.
01:02:58.740 But at this point, they're like, nah, this chick is going to jail.
01:03:01.760 She's just a bunch of dead ends.
01:03:03.360 Yep.
01:03:04.280 ...here was to do what?
01:03:06.160 I'm trying to think of places where I know she's been.
01:03:08.740 You're not answering the questions.
01:03:09.960 Do you want us to help?
01:03:10.820 Yes.
01:03:11.040 Do you want us to find your daughter?
01:03:11.780 I do want you to help.
01:03:12.320 Well, a good starting point would be to answer the questions, okay?
01:03:14.840 If I say to you, we're here because, and then you just ignore that, like I never asked it,
01:03:19.620 and go off in some other direction, is that answering the question?
01:03:22.580 No.
01:03:22.720 Okay.
01:03:23.640 Let's go through this again.
01:03:24.620 We're here because.
01:03:27.000 Because I lied.
01:03:28.300 Because I brought you up here.
01:03:30.360 And honestly, I was reaching for...
01:03:32.200 Stupid.
01:03:34.140 Stop right here.
01:03:35.100 I want you to tell me how lying to us is going to help us find your daughter.
01:03:38.960 It's not going to.
01:03:39.780 Well, then, if the main thing you want to do is find your daughter, and you don't think lying to us is going to help us find her, why would you do that?
01:03:46.140 And that is a damn good question.
01:03:48.200 Like, what are you doing?
01:03:50.180 Like, what are you...
01:03:50.980 Seriously.
01:03:51.380 You stupid.
01:03:52.160 We're trying to help you find your daughter.
01:03:53.560 Why are you getting in the way?
01:03:54.780 And at this point, right, they're like, nah, this chick is involved, you know?
01:03:59.320 But at this point, they're just trying to lock her in a statement.
01:04:01.340 And yeah, the detectives are extremely frustrated because they've dropped everything they're doing to find this kid, rightfully so.
01:04:07.540 And this chick, this woman, Casey, is in the fucking way.
01:04:10.980 I can feel their frustration.
01:04:12.340 I've been there.
01:04:13.000 Because I'm scared, and I know I'm running out of options.
01:04:18.160 It's been a month.
01:04:18.960 What are you scared of?
01:04:19.780 Look at that.
01:04:20.240 Now she's trying to take the victim route.
01:04:21.800 I'm scared!
01:04:23.380 You know what I mean?
01:04:25.240 I'm scared of not seeing my daughter ever again.
01:04:27.560 I'm a parent, too.
01:04:28.560 I would have been beside myself.
01:04:30.260 I have been.
01:04:30.900 I would have called the police immediately, and that's the part that I just don't understand.
01:04:35.420 We've got so many resources out there that we could help on day one.
01:04:39.420 You didn't know what to do.
01:04:40.920 I didn't know what to do.
01:04:41.940 At that point, I'm thinking, okay, they haven't been gone that long.
01:04:44.700 Maybe I can find them.
01:04:45.700 Maybe I can track them down.
01:04:46.640 We're not stupid, okay?
01:04:48.180 And what you're doing right now is you're treating us like we're stupid.
01:04:50.980 Everything that's coming out of your mouth is a lie.
01:04:52.820 Everything.
01:04:53.920 You know, you give Kaylee to someone, and you don't want anyone to find out because you think you're...
01:04:57.780 And I think Mellich, guys, if I'm not mistaken, is the lead detective, which means this case is on him.
01:05:02.200 This is his investigation.
01:05:03.500 He's the lead detective.
01:05:04.520 If this thing fails, it's on him.
01:05:06.060 If it succeeds, it's on him.
01:05:07.020 So, obviously, he has an enormous amount of pressure on him because he's trying to find this kid alive, you know?
01:05:12.180 And this woman getting in the way is hurting the chances of finding this child alive, right?
01:05:16.620 Because in their eyes, they think that maybe this babysitter still has this kid, and she's just trying to recover for them.
01:05:21.720 They don't know what...
01:05:23.520 No, we have the benefit of 2020 hindsight reacting to this.
01:05:26.020 But back then in 2008, they don't know all these facts that we know now.
01:05:28.380 So, for him, it's an enormous amount of pressure anytime you have a missing child and you're the lead detective.
01:05:33.860 You're a bad mom, or something happened to Kaylee, and Kaylee's buried somewhere, or in a trash can somewhere, and you had something to do with it.
01:05:40.380 Either way, right now, it's not a very pretty picture to be painting.
01:05:42.920 You're painting yourself as a very bad person.
01:05:45.000 It seems to end.
01:05:46.180 The truthful thing is that I have not seen my daughter.
01:05:49.580 The last time that I saw her was on the 9th of June.
01:05:53.400 Remember we had those two people that we were talking about, the person who had an accident, and a person who's just a cold-blooded, callous monster?
01:05:59.440 That's telling me that you are the second person, this cold-blooded, callous monster, who doesn't care and doesn't want to help because she's afraid that something so anus happened that everyone's going to look at her and say,
01:06:10.020 she's a monster, she deserves to go away, she deserves to never see the light of day, this bad thing should happen to her.
01:06:15.100 I don't want to believe that right now, but you're going to give me no choice.
01:06:18.560 Tell us what happened to Kaylee.
01:06:20.960 Tell us what happened to Kaylee.
01:06:22.960 I dropped off Kaylee, and that's the last time that I've seen her.
01:06:27.540 I dropped her off.
01:06:28.120 Where did you drop her off?
01:06:29.220 I dropped her off at that time.
01:06:30.600 Oh, she's still sticking to that stupid story with Zanny the nanny.
01:06:33.780 Zanny Lice.
01:06:34.700 No, you didn't.
01:06:35.820 That's exactly where I dropped her off.
01:06:37.660 Did you just think that one day she's just going to spill up at your house?
01:06:41.360 No, I sat around yesterday trying to figure out what to do.
01:06:45.040 I'm glad that I ended up seeing my mom, that all of that stuff happened.
01:06:48.520 Happened for a reason.
01:06:49.560 You're glad you saw your mom.
01:06:51.180 You could have saw your mom.
01:06:52.340 Go ahead.
01:06:52.760 Do you have some, Angie?
01:06:53.320 Yeah, yeah.
01:06:53.780 I want to add the connotations that I said earlier.
01:06:57.060 So why, I mean, how the mom found out about Kaylee is that because she was found at the boyfriend's
01:07:04.660 house smoking pot and stuff.
01:07:07.020 Yeah.
01:07:07.440 Watched her movie.
01:07:07.960 Yeah.
01:07:08.460 If the mom, I mean, so the reason why she got caught or the reason why she appeared because
01:07:15.740 she was missing for five weeks, month is because she was right.
01:07:19.880 She was at her boyfriend's house.
01:07:22.020 But the thing is that the car was missing.
01:07:24.980 They found the car and the towing company that called the owner of the car, which is like
01:07:31.060 Casey's father.
01:07:32.280 Yeah.
01:07:32.720 That's how they found out that she was.
01:07:34.500 I mean, she was actually in Orlando because she said that she was in Tampa.
01:07:37.900 Yeah.
01:07:38.120 But she was actually in Orlando with her boyfriend.
01:07:40.200 Yeah.
01:07:40.620 So she said she was working in Tampa the whole time, guys.
01:07:42.520 Yeah, exactly.
01:07:43.220 I mean, it's I mean, this girl never wanted to find a child.
01:07:47.980 Never would have called 911 if it wasn't for her mother.
01:07:51.300 Yeah.
01:07:51.760 The grandmother of the child.
01:07:53.000 Yeah.
01:07:53.280 So I don't know.
01:07:54.760 It's just fucking delusional.
01:07:57.840 We've both come and see why women deserve less.
01:07:59.320 I saw my mom's reaction right off the bat, and it would have been the same from the get
01:08:06.140 go.
01:08:06.880 So women, you're more afraid of your mom's reaction than you are if you ever see your daughter
01:08:11.200 again.
01:08:11.400 You know, I'm absolutely.
01:08:12.180 They're asking the right questions here.
01:08:14.620 We petrified.
01:08:16.340 Absolutely petrified.
01:08:17.540 I know my mom will never forgive me.
01:08:19.620 I'm never going to forgive myself.
01:08:21.480 Is it that there's some other thing more important in your life right now that you just weren't really
01:08:25.020 focused on what you were saying when you told us?
01:08:27.820 So you kind of just accidentally told us you had an office here and we needed to be here
01:08:32.600 or did you purposely mislead us?
01:08:34.560 Which of those two is it?
01:08:36.400 I purposely mislead us.
01:08:37.300 Okay, so you purposely mislead us.
01:08:39.080 This was all an attempt to help find your daughter, right?
01:08:42.260 That makes sense to you, Greg.
01:08:44.760 In a backwards sort of way, yes.
01:08:50.540 This girl is making me cringe.
01:08:51.880 In a backwards sort of way?
01:08:53.980 Like, what is going on, bro?
01:08:57.820 This girl is crazy.
01:08:59.560 Like, I feel wild.
01:09:02.740 I'm coming back to places that are familiar to me that I know are familiar to her.
01:09:07.580 Familiar situations that maybe would help.
01:09:12.740 She's almost three.
01:09:13.600 She's almost three.
01:09:14.220 What, you think she's going to take a cab here?
01:09:15.600 I mean, how did she get here?
01:09:17.600 She's a baby.
01:09:19.320 You know, at this point, the detectives are just like, yo, you know what, man?
01:09:23.020 Like, finish this chick, man.
01:09:25.800 She's stupid.
01:09:26.980 Are we going to roast this bitch?
01:09:28.000 You going to make us come to Universal Studios with the security director and the security
01:09:34.340 looking at us crazy and you waving to all these people like, hey, I work here, making us
01:09:38.100 look wild?
01:09:39.440 We're going to cook you right now.
01:09:40.760 We're going to bring you to this interrogation room or we're going to bring you in this random
01:09:43.780 room.
01:09:43.980 We're going to handcuff your dumb ass.
01:09:45.100 We're going to ask you a bunch of questions to make you look stupid.
01:09:47.400 All right?
01:09:47.740 Because this is ridiculous.
01:09:49.860 You stupid.
01:09:50.660 At this point, they're just going to cook her.
01:09:54.100 She's with someone else.
01:09:56.240 She's with someone else who's hid her from you for five weeks.
01:10:00.340 Yes.
01:10:01.040 For no reason.
01:10:02.480 Why would a person who has hid your daughter from you for five weeks, okay, bring her to
01:10:08.960 the building that you used to work at?
01:10:12.120 I don't know what else to do anymore.
01:10:14.740 If I knew where she was, if something would have happened, I would have admitted that
01:10:18.460 the whole time.
01:10:19.120 Do you believe thinking up more lies to tell us about this?
01:10:22.420 No.
01:10:24.220 She's with someone that I absolutely do not trust.
01:10:28.180 What?
01:10:28.340 And I'm absolutely scared.
01:10:30.400 That you don't trust yet with babysitting your daughter for a year.
01:10:32.640 I don't trust.
01:10:33.240 There you go.
01:10:34.240 Oh, my God.
01:10:35.480 What is going on?
01:10:38.040 For now, because of what happened.
01:10:40.780 Who did you call first?
01:10:42.380 Who did you go to for help first to help try to find her?
01:10:45.740 No one.
01:10:46.640 Oh, no.
01:10:47.060 Okay.
01:10:47.420 All right.
01:10:48.680 Okay.
01:10:50.180 I ain't gonna lie.
01:10:51.300 I enjoyed this segment of this documentary.
01:10:53.500 Probably one of the most.
01:10:54.720 Them just like, just constantly shitting on her.
01:10:58.480 Like, yo, what are you talking about?
01:11:00.660 Like, what?
01:11:02.460 This is like, this is what being held accountable for your stupidity looks like, guys.
01:11:06.380 And you can tell this is probably the first time in this woman's life that she's actually
01:11:11.680 had her feet to the fire and had her delusion and her lunacy tested through the reality that
01:11:17.740 the detectives are painting for her.
01:11:19.760 Yo, what is wrong with you?
01:11:21.980 Backwards sort of way?
01:11:23.440 What are you talking about?
01:11:24.800 You don't trust this woman, but you've had her for a year and a half?
01:11:27.480 They're just like, hand her.
01:11:28.660 Bam.
01:11:28.980 Reality.
01:11:29.640 Bam.
01:11:29.980 Reality.
01:11:30.660 Bam.
01:11:31.000 Reality.
01:11:31.800 You know what I mean?
01:11:32.300 It's fantastic.
01:11:33.560 Boom.
01:11:33.920 Booker.
01:11:34.520 All right.
01:11:34.860 Casey was then taken to the county jail where she, in the evening hours, was able to make
01:11:43.360 a phone call and just happened to see her mother on the local news moments before speaking
01:11:47.660 to her.
01:11:47.980 This is my favorite part.
01:11:49.160 Casey?
01:11:49.780 Mom.
01:11:50.220 Hey, sweetie.
01:11:51.700 Oh, I just saw your nice little candy.
01:11:53.200 Oh, guys, but there's more.
01:11:54.880 Pay attention here.
01:11:55.540 This is the best part.
01:11:56.060 So she calls her mom from a jail cell phone, by the way.
01:11:59.100 Not a jail cell phone.
01:11:59.840 Sorry.
01:12:00.120 A jail call, right?
01:12:01.840 From a jail phone.
01:12:03.080 So it's obviously recorded.
01:12:04.120 Let's see how her interaction goes with her mom, Cindy.
01:12:08.020 TV?
01:12:09.220 Which one?
01:12:10.280 What do you mean, which one?
01:12:11.520 Which one?
01:12:12.200 I did four different ones, and I don't know.
01:12:14.620 I haven't seen them all.
01:12:15.460 I've only seen one or two so far.
01:12:17.880 You don't know what my involvement is in stuff?
01:12:21.200 Casey?
01:12:22.040 Mom.
01:12:22.600 What?
01:12:23.260 No.
01:12:23.640 I don't know what your involvement is, sweetheart.
01:12:26.580 You're not telling me where she's at.
01:12:28.620 Because I don't f***ing know where she's at.
01:12:30.520 Are you kidding me?
01:12:32.100 Casey, don't waste your call.
01:12:33.680 No.
01:12:33.840 Raymond Hall, right?
01:12:34.440 Is her fault sitting in the jail?
01:12:37.060 Whose fault is she sitting in the jail?
01:12:38.980 You're blaming me that you're sitting in the jail?
01:12:40.800 Blame yourself for telling lies.
01:12:42.600 You mean it's not your fault?
01:12:43.500 Look at that.
01:12:43.840 She can't even take accountability now.
01:12:45.880 Like, this is crazy, man.
01:12:47.700 What is going on?
01:12:49.500 She's mad at hell because she got caught in her lies.
01:12:51.640 It's so funny.
01:12:52.300 Yeah, she's mad because her mom is on national television, okay, trying to appeal to the public to find Casey.
01:13:00.220 Because, guys, you got to remember, like I said before, when there's a missing child, all hands are on deck.
01:13:03.980 The media's involved.
01:13:05.040 The parents are doing press conferences.
01:13:06.860 Hey, here's my granddaughter.
01:13:08.940 This is what she looks like.
01:13:09.640 This is how old she is.
01:13:10.560 This is her height and weight.
01:13:12.400 Eye color.
01:13:13.120 This is what she was last wearing.
01:13:14.300 They're doing all this, right?
01:13:15.220 And this was a big case in Florida.
01:13:16.980 Yes, it was huge back then, guys.
01:13:19.880 So there wasn't social media like there is now.
01:13:22.260 So you had to go to the press to get the media coverage.
01:13:25.260 This is 2008.
01:13:26.500 The best we had back then was MySpace and Facebook.
01:13:29.400 And for all my older people out there, y'all know those apps are trash, okay, which is why they're obsolete now.
01:13:34.000 So the news was the main medium to get that information out there.
01:13:37.060 So she had done three or four different press runs with the news.
01:13:41.680 And obviously, you know, she's like, hey, blah, blah, blah.
01:13:43.780 Now, Casey's more concerned with her not covering for her versus finding her daughter, which is a very telling sign.
01:13:54.740 It's not your fault, sweetheart.
01:13:55.980 If you had told them the truth and not lied about everything, they wouldn't.
01:13:59.640 Do me a favor.
01:14:00.220 Just tell me what Tony's number is.
01:14:01.420 I don't want to talk to you right now.
01:14:03.820 I don't have his number.
01:14:05.180 Well, get it from Lee because I know Lee's at the house.
01:14:07.140 Get Tony's number for me.
01:14:11.020 Hey, can you give me Tony's number?
01:14:13.780 I can do that.
01:14:15.320 I don't know what's real good it's going to do at this point.
01:14:18.200 So he's like, yo, like, why do you want to talk to your boyfriend, Tony?
01:14:20.840 What's that going to do?
01:14:21.840 What's this club promoter going to do for you?
01:14:24.040 Like, what?
01:14:25.060 Stupid.
01:14:26.520 Like, in our own world, guys.
01:14:29.780 Well, I'd like to talk to them anyway.
01:14:31.920 Because I called to talk to my mother.
01:14:34.300 And it's a waste.
01:14:35.520 Oh, by the way, I don't want any of you coming up here when I have my first hearing for Bond and everything else.
01:14:39.820 Like, don't even waste your time coming up here.
01:14:41.840 Like, you're making it real tough for anybody to want to try to.
01:14:45.960 So her brother's hitting her with logic.
01:14:47.420 Like, bro, what is wrong with you?
01:14:49.220 Like, what are you doing?
01:14:51.100 You know, and you're making it hard for us to even want to deal with you right now.
01:14:53.880 It's like, I don't care.
01:14:54.600 I don't want any of you to come up here.
01:14:55.440 I'm not going around and around with you.
01:14:59.260 That's pretty pointless.
01:15:01.320 Christina would love to talk to you because she thinks that you will tell her what's wrong.
01:15:04.740 And this is the best friend that Andrew was telling you all about before.
01:15:08.100 And I want you guys to look at the difference between the best friend who isn't even biologically related to this child and the biological mom.
01:15:16.820 See if she can get through to you.
01:15:34.400 So even the family is starting to have doubts here.
01:15:36.360 You guys can tell with their dismissive tone, talking with her.
01:15:39.260 They're not even sure anymore what's going on.
01:15:41.560 Because at this point, they know that she's been lying to the police all this time, which is why she's in jail in the first place.
01:15:46.700 Hi, I'm glad everybody's at my house.
01:15:49.500 Do me a favor.
01:15:50.100 Get my brother back because I need Tony's number.
01:15:53.060 Do Tony have anything to do with Taylor?
01:15:55.480 No, nothing.
01:15:56.940 Okay, so why do you want to talk to Tony?
01:15:58.660 Oh, asking the real questions.
01:16:01.480 Asking the real questions.
01:16:03.560 You know what I mean?
01:16:04.240 Christina, asking the real goddamn questions.
01:16:06.660 Yo, what does Tony have to do with this and why do you want to talk to him?
01:16:10.740 Like, what are you doing?
01:16:11.900 Like, yo.
01:16:12.520 You stupid.
01:16:14.560 He's my boyfriend and I won't actually try to sit and talk to him because I didn't get a chance to talk to him earlier.
01:16:19.880 Because I got arrested on a whim today.
01:16:23.680 I got arrested on a whim?
01:16:25.700 No.
01:16:26.080 No, you dragged the police to multiple locations that didn't exist for some zanny nanny that doesn't exist.
01:16:31.380 You made a bunch of lies about people that you work with and you lying about working at Universal Studios.
01:16:36.840 You let them on a wild goose chase for 30 minutes almost all around having a bunch of employees go like, hey, what the hell's wrong with this chick crazy?
01:16:44.980 Of course, they're going to go ahead and arrest you.
01:16:46.820 I mean, the fucking whole state was looking for that girl.
01:16:50.280 Yes.
01:16:50.760 In the back then.
01:16:51.720 Yes.
01:16:51.900 And she was just misleading the investigation.
01:16:53.860 Yes.
01:16:54.220 This is insane.
01:16:54.880 And she goes ahead and says, oh, they arrested me on a whim.
01:16:58.880 Like, what?
01:17:01.320 Oh, Lord.
01:17:02.300 The nerve.
01:17:02.780 I just want to talk to Tony and get a little bit of...
01:17:07.540 Casey, you have to tell me if you know anything about Kaylee.
01:17:10.740 If anything happens with Kaylee, Casey, I'll die.
01:17:14.000 Look at her.
01:17:14.560 She's crying.
01:17:15.120 If anything happens to Kaylee, Casey, I'll die.
01:17:17.040 You understand?
01:17:17.640 I'll die.
01:17:18.300 This is her best friend.
01:17:19.920 Not even the mother.
01:17:22.680 No emotion.
01:17:23.360 But the best friend is literally crying on the phone.
01:17:26.520 I'll die if anything happens to that baby.
01:17:30.560 Oh, my God.
01:17:31.720 Calling you guys?
01:17:32.860 Waste.
01:17:33.660 Huge.
01:17:33.860 Huge.
01:17:33.920 What?
01:17:36.300 Yo!
01:17:38.700 This girl is on demon time, bro.
01:17:41.800 The nerve.
01:17:42.540 Huge waste.
01:17:43.860 Waste.
01:17:44.120 Casey appeared in the court the next morning and was initially denied bail by the judge.
01:17:49.220 He cited his reason as her undeniable disregard for the welfare of her own child.
01:17:54.620 She was kept in protective custody, and it would be nine days until she received her first visit from her parents.
01:18:06.380 Hey, guys.
01:18:07.020 Sorry for the qualities.
01:18:07.760 Y'all can see.
01:18:08.240 This is 2008 technology, man.
01:18:09.900 So, you know, it is what it is.
01:18:11.300 Oh, this is very important.
01:18:12.140 Yeah, so this is her parents here, guys.
01:18:14.560 Here's George and Cindy.
01:18:16.480 They're meeting her in jail nine days after the fact.
01:18:19.100 I want you guys to pay attention to her demeanor here.
01:18:22.360 Sweetie, we've been watching you for so long.
01:18:26.940 I love you.
01:18:28.180 I love you, too.
01:18:29.320 Hi.
01:18:30.700 We've been seeing you sitting down.
01:18:33.320 We forgive anything that you've said.
01:18:35.720 The echo is from the video, guys.
01:18:37.000 It's not us.
01:18:37.620 This is just 2008 technology, as y'all know.
01:18:40.220 Oh, we're done.
01:18:41.260 Hold on.
01:18:42.500 Can we turn the volume down?
01:18:43.840 Yeah.
01:18:44.240 You can probably hear it.
01:18:45.580 My head's going to explode.
01:18:48.480 What's that t-shirt?
01:18:49.480 I didn't get a chance to ask him, you know, other things.
01:18:52.380 Kaylee's picture's on the back.
01:18:54.100 Is it?
01:18:54.820 Can Daddy show me the shirt?
01:18:56.500 Turn around so she can see.
01:18:58.240 It's the Never Lose Hope Foundation.
01:19:00.480 Do you see it?
01:19:01.540 I can see part of it, yeah.
01:19:04.000 Have you seen me?
01:19:04.840 Look at how invested the grandparents are in finding their granddaughter.
01:19:09.300 But look at the expression, I'm the mom, right?
01:19:12.580 You guys can see the pain in the grandparents' face.
01:19:16.300 And actually, you got a pretty, you got a bombshell that you want to drop, right?
01:19:19.320 You want to drop it now, Angie, or after when we go to motive?
01:19:22.980 You know, we'll wait to motive.
01:19:23.840 We'll wait to motive.
01:19:24.580 Okay.
01:19:24.760 And then it has the information on how to contact.
01:19:29.180 Okay.
01:19:30.520 Casey, you don't realize that the whole United States is looking for Kaylee.
01:19:36.600 I know that one.
01:19:37.880 Her cover's going to be on People Magazine in a few days.
01:19:41.300 Okay.
01:19:42.140 With a readership of over four...
01:19:43.640 And guys, let me bring this into context for y'all.
01:19:46.540 People, being on a magazine back in 2008, being in the news, press coverage, et cetera, was huge back then.
01:19:52.560 It's not like nowadays where it's like, oh, you're in the news.
01:19:55.540 Who cares, bro?
01:19:56.280 No one watches mainstream media.
01:19:57.920 Back in 2008, everyone watched mainstream media.
01:20:00.740 You were on People Magazine, Time, et cetera.
01:20:02.720 It was a big deal back then, all right?
01:20:05.380 Because there was no independent media like we have today with YouTube, et cetera.
01:20:08.660 YouTube was barely taken off the ground at this point.
01:20:12.480 46 million adults in America.
01:20:14.840 Having your missing child on the front cover of People Magazine would seem as a godsend to most.
01:20:19.940 Yet Casey's response is almost as if it's a lost cause.
01:20:23.700 Everybody is looking for her.
01:20:26.840 Oh, good.
01:20:28.600 Everybody is looking for her.
01:20:30.120 That was such a fake good holy.
01:20:33.100 Are we going to be able to find her, do you think?
01:20:35.800 I hope we can, Mom.
01:20:38.880 No, I didn't get a chance to ask Lee.
01:20:41.060 Can you look up a little bit more?
01:20:43.540 Raise your eyes up a little bit.
01:20:45.880 There you go.
01:20:46.300 Look straight up so I can look into your eyes, darling.
01:20:50.520 Thank you.
01:20:51.320 I need you know I need to do that.
01:20:53.800 It's okay to cry, Casey.
01:20:56.040 It's all right.
01:20:56.780 Because even the mom now is trying to figure out like, yo, is this my daughter?
01:21:02.560 Like, let me look into your eyes.
01:21:04.100 Like, yo, are you, how do you not care?
01:21:07.080 So, like, what the hell is going on here?
01:21:09.300 Your dad is wearing a t-shirt with your daughter's face on it trying to find them.
01:21:13.440 We've done a bunch of interviews.
01:21:15.280 The detectives are going crazy.
01:21:16.760 We haven't slept.
01:21:17.640 We're trying to find Kaylee.
01:21:19.820 Like, why are you looking down?
01:21:21.560 What's going on here?
01:21:22.900 And it's not until she asks her this question that you see this response.
01:21:25.580 Setting aside morality and ethics for just a moment, Casey at this point would be emotionally exhausted.
01:21:35.920 She had been sitting in an isolated jail cell for almost two weeks as the entire world was turning against her.
01:21:41.540 Anyone in her position, guilty or otherwise, would be at near breaking point, and her composed exterior now finally slips.
01:21:48.500 She, for a brief moment, allows herself to be vulnerable and, for perhaps the first time, expresses the pain of her situation.
01:21:56.020 This is one of the few moments where Casey's true self is on display.
01:21:59.640 Of itself, it's a touching moment between a mother and daughter.
01:22:02.900 Yet, if we add in the context of the surrounding elements, she is only expressing this pain for herself.
01:22:08.240 Just a moment ago, when she saw her deceased daughter's face on her father's shirt, none of this emotion came out.
01:22:14.060 Casey, I want to ask you just a couple questions.
01:22:17.200 God.
01:22:18.500 The rest of the visit is extremely bizarre.
01:22:21.160 Casey's parents try to extract any information they can about Kaylee's possible whereabouts,
01:22:26.100 and each time are essentially dismissed by Casey as if they're asking pointless and irritating questions.
01:22:31.340 Do we have any pictures of Zannie's apartment?
01:22:34.940 Alina, I already talked about this.
01:22:36.520 I don't know.
01:22:37.000 It could be on the desk at home.
01:22:39.640 I don't know.
01:22:40.480 So she's annoyed at this point, guys.
01:22:42.020 You want to know why?
01:22:42.700 Because Zannie doesn't exist.
01:22:44.740 That's why she's so annoyed and frustrated with people asking questions.
01:22:48.240 About someone that doesn't exist.
01:22:50.700 The family is still holding on to this glimmer of hope that she's telling the truth and that the child might be alive with this make-pretend nanny with a super Hispanic name that's Puerto Rican and Black from New York that graduated from the University of Florida.
01:23:05.580 They're still holding on to this dream.
01:23:07.400 No, and maybe if she was, we still don't know if she killed the baby or what happened with
01:23:13.040 the baby.
01:23:14.100 But if she was, she already knew the baby was dead.
01:23:17.240 She's just frustrated because she knows the investigation is going to go anywhere.
01:23:21.520 Exactly.
01:23:22.660 That's another reason why, because she knows the baby's not alive.
01:23:26.100 She knows that Zannie doesn't exist.
01:23:27.940 And they keep asking her about it.
01:23:29.700 At this point, guys, she's probably been asked hundreds of times, where's Zannie?
01:23:34.700 Let's find her.
01:23:35.840 Where's your daughter?
01:23:36.860 Et cetera.
01:23:37.280 Because they don't know that she's dead yet.
01:23:39.060 We have the benefit of 2020 hindsight, but everyone is looking for this girl because they actually
01:23:42.940 believe this deranged mother that she got kidnapped by some super Hispanic Zannie granny that's from
01:23:49.480 New York.
01:23:51.520 What is your, I can't get into your, um, I gave Lee everything already.
01:23:57.920 I gave Lee all of the passwords, everything we could possibly think of all over again.
01:24:03.760 I want to get some video clips off Kaylee because the video clip with grandpa is really helping
01:24:08.740 people.
01:24:09.780 Still pictures don't show her personality.
01:24:13.960 Right.
01:24:14.440 And we need to.
01:24:15.300 Ah, that's a key distinction.
01:24:16.480 Emotion fades when speaking of her daughter.
01:24:18.740 And also, guys, do me a quick favor.
01:24:20.240 There's 1,700 plus y'all.
01:24:21.540 Well, actually 2,000, including the Twitch people.
01:24:23.920 Do me a favor, man.
01:24:24.600 If you're watching on Twitch, open up a tab.
01:24:26.380 Go on YouTube.
01:24:26.960 Fed at 1811.
01:24:28.000 Uh, watch it on YouTube.
01:24:29.340 Like the video.
01:24:30.240 Subscribe to the channel.
01:24:31.140 Like I said, we're on YouTube jail for a week, guys.
01:24:33.300 Um, and we got to get back in the algo.
01:24:35.520 So do me a solid.
01:24:36.780 Like the video, guys.
01:24:37.700 Bunch of y'all watch us.
01:24:38.400 Supporting.
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01:24:40.020 Like, subscribe to the channel.
01:24:40.940 Uh, for more breakdowns like this, man.
01:24:43.360 I have a personality.
01:24:44.520 So I need to make sure we get that password.
01:24:47.240 I gave Lee the password.
01:24:49.060 Please look up, sweetheart.
01:24:50.320 I need to see your eyes.
01:24:51.420 I want to be able to look at you guys, too.
01:24:53.480 I can't look at you and look at the camera.
01:24:55.640 The reason why the mom is asking for her to look her in the eyes is because she wants
01:24:59.600 to believe the fantasy that Casey has painted about the Zanny Granny, a.k.a. Zenaida Gonzalez
01:25:06.360 or Fernandez Gonzalez.
01:25:07.660 Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.
01:25:08.520 Yeah, the most Hispanic name ever.
01:25:10.680 She wants to believe that her daughter, her granddaughter is still alive.
01:25:13.300 She wants to believe that this mystical woman kidnapped her.
01:25:16.320 Basically.
01:25:16.820 So she wants to look into her eyes and feel that comfort.
01:25:20.700 And, um, Casey can't look her mom in the eyes because she knows she's lying.
01:25:25.220 She knows.
01:25:26.760 Well, you don't have to look at the camera.
01:25:28.420 Look at me.
01:25:29.600 I'm looking at you.
01:25:31.040 Okay.
01:25:31.400 You're sitting very low.
01:25:33.440 Look at how annoyed she is.
01:25:35.020 The exchange switches back and forth from inquisitive and challenging to sympathetic and loving.
01:25:40.260 And every time her parents stop inquiring over the case and show that they still care
01:25:44.460 about Casey herself is when the tears come out.
01:25:47.060 Do you want to speak to your father now?
01:25:49.540 Sure.
01:25:50.500 Okay.
01:25:52.740 Hey, gorgeous.
01:25:53.240 How you doing?
01:25:54.940 Yeah.
01:25:55.200 And you guys are going to see how they flipped things on the father, which is quite frankly,
01:26:00.300 a travesty.
01:26:01.500 Um, but we'll get into that as well.
01:26:04.160 I look like hell.
01:26:06.480 Well, you know something?
01:26:08.260 You, you really need to keep your spirit high for all this.
01:26:11.380 I have.
01:26:11.920 I haven't been crying while I've been in here.
01:26:14.940 Well, you know something?
01:26:15.780 I've been trying to read books and do other things to keep my mind off of stuff.
01:26:19.180 Well, you know, I want to be able to reach out and hug you and give you the, you know,
01:26:22.780 the big, the big Papa Joe hug.
01:26:24.420 But you know, I, I, I, we've got to get that little girl back any way we can and we're
01:26:32.660 doing everything we can.
01:26:33.560 That's my only concern.
01:26:34.600 I gave Leah a statement.
01:26:35.700 I want him to speak to whoever in the media, give them a statement specifically from me.
01:26:40.600 That's going to give them an exact quote.
01:26:42.820 Every time Casey's parents mention that people are willing to help with a search, Casey dismisses
01:26:47.860 their credibility and even attacks some of their characters while she's at it.
01:26:51.700 Tara?
01:26:52.880 Tara from Michigan.
01:26:54.600 You mean Mark's psycho ex-wife, Tara?
01:26:57.520 Yes.
01:26:58.800 Listen, people like Tara, people like Jesse, who are maybe trying to help even Christina,
01:27:06.240 God bless her.
01:27:09.160 Don't know what the hell they're talking about.
01:27:11.060 Yes, it was her ex-fiancé.
01:27:12.360 I want to take your pain away from you.
01:27:14.120 And you want to give them a little bit.
01:27:15.800 So Jesse was who?
01:27:16.700 Her ex-fiancé?
01:27:17.460 Yeah.
01:27:17.860 So he even joined in.
01:27:19.500 Yeah.
01:27:19.760 And just so we know, Angie, that's not the biological father.
01:27:24.860 Nobody knows.
01:27:25.880 Nobody knows.
01:27:26.700 Not even her parents knew.
01:27:28.840 Give some background real quick on the baby's father.
01:27:33.180 So basically, this girl got pregnant when she was 19 with this baby, Kaylee.
01:27:39.000 And nobody knows who was the actual father of the baby because she never told anybody.
01:27:45.580 I don't think she actually knows who's the father of the baby.
01:27:48.400 But the thing is that back then when she had the baby and she was dating this guy, Jesse
01:27:54.340 Grant, who actually asked her for marriage and they got engaged.
01:28:00.160 But then I think after the baby was more or something, he was committed with the relationship.
01:28:08.420 I mean, he wanted to like, you know, father the baby and everything.
01:28:12.320 He was very committed and in love with Casey.
01:28:14.100 Casey, but he claims he claims that she went erratic after she had the baby and her behavior
01:28:22.420 changed and she left her.
01:28:25.140 He left her because she was crazy.
01:28:27.040 He left her.
01:28:27.480 Yeah, because her behavior was erratic.
01:28:29.020 Yeah.
01:28:29.140 So no one knows, guys, who the biological father is, which I thought was very interesting that
01:28:33.560 in any of the documentaries I watched, there's no mention of the biological father.
01:28:37.300 So you got the former fiance even assisting in the situation to help to find the baby.
01:28:43.060 And you got Christina, the best friend.
01:28:45.460 And look at how she reacts.
01:28:46.460 Oh, they don't know anything.
01:28:48.780 This girl, this other woman's a psycho, blah, blah, blah.
01:28:51.240 So she just dismisses them as none of them are equipped to help.
01:28:54.640 But I think deep down in the back of her mind, she's like, well, it's all she's.
01:28:58.080 She just cares about herself and her boyfriend.
01:29:00.420 Yeah.
01:29:00.800 And you see at the beginning of the interview that she asked her dad about her brother
01:29:04.380 because she just want her to talk to her brother to get the number of her boyfriend
01:29:08.040 because she just want to talk to her boyfriend.
01:29:09.600 Yep.
01:29:10.040 Which is insane.
01:29:11.120 But you guys are going to see what she was doing during those 31 days with the boyfriend.
01:29:14.500 Yep.
01:29:16.000 So you can tell me anything.
01:29:18.160 I know that, dad.
01:29:19.940 I miss you, sweetie.
01:29:24.560 I know that.
01:29:25.520 I miss you, too.
01:29:26.140 I wish I could.
01:29:27.300 And you can see how he babies her.
01:29:29.320 You know what I mean?
01:29:30.460 Here's the thing.
01:29:31.120 God bless this guy because I could tell he's a good father.
01:29:33.180 But he babied and coddled this woman throughout her entire life, which is why she turned into
01:29:39.120 and morphed into this delusional individual that does not understand how the real world
01:29:43.840 works.
01:29:44.500 Right.
01:29:45.000 Even in the worst situation, he still sees his little girl, you know, right now.
01:29:50.920 That's what he that's what he sees.
01:29:52.220 He still sees his daughter, his little girl.
01:29:55.700 And it's hard for him to, you know, if you see the whole case and the whole situation,
01:30:01.520 her father was the only one with like a sane head because the mother was delusional as well.
01:30:06.920 Yeah.
01:30:07.040 That's why the mom was really erratic, extremely emotional throughout the situation.
01:30:11.040 I mean, the mom, if you think about it, is the one that got her jammed up in the first
01:30:13.800 place.
01:30:14.040 She was the one she called 911.
01:30:15.380 As soon as she found that car, found Kaylee, Casey.
01:30:17.360 She's like, where's Kaylee?
01:30:18.900 I'm calling 911.
01:30:20.400 Like, you know, and then that's when Casey had to come up with that BS story.
01:30:23.120 Oh, the babysitter got her because she saw her mom calling 911.
01:30:26.400 So Casey had to come up with the story on the fly, which I'll give her credit.
01:30:29.880 She was able to come up with an elaborate lie while her mom was calling 911.
01:30:32.860 But later on, her mother covered her lies.
01:30:35.280 Oh, did she?
01:30:36.020 Yeah.
01:30:36.340 Oh, shit.
01:30:36.840 We don't cover that in a second, too.
01:30:38.560 Her dad had a better grandpa, you know?
01:30:41.940 You've been a great dad and you've been the best grandfather.
01:30:45.180 Don't for a second think otherwise.
01:30:48.460 Well, you know, you-
01:30:49.220 You and mom have been the best grandparents.
01:30:53.060 Kaylee's been so lucky.
01:30:56.900 Kaylee is so lucky to have both of you.
01:31:01.580 Kaylee's been so lucky.
01:31:03.220 Hmm.
01:31:04.700 That's the past tense, guys.
01:31:06.220 Then she immediately switches in and says Kaylee is lucky.
01:31:11.880 She caught herself.
01:31:13.360 She goes past tense first, aka you indicative of someone that was deceased.
01:31:18.480 Then she goes ahead and fixes herself and makes it the present tense.
01:31:21.320 She is lucky.
01:31:21.960 I can't even put into words how glad I am that she's had both of you and that she still has both of you.
01:31:31.420 You know, it goes without saying, you know, our house is empty without both of you there.
01:31:39.560 Poor thing.
01:31:40.980 It's empty.
01:31:41.620 All the little things we took for granted, we miss them so, so much.
01:31:47.100 That's exactly how I feel.
01:31:48.320 All your little things and all her little things, it hurts.
01:31:52.900 We're not there.
01:31:54.940 Mom and I are just going through the motions, you know?
01:31:57.060 I ate coleslaw today.
01:32:03.200 That's how I ate coleslaw.
01:32:05.320 Well, you're probably eating a lot of things you never used to eat before because when you're hungry, you'll eat.
01:32:11.100 I hated bologna.
01:32:12.360 I've been eating bologna and cheese on occasion.
01:32:15.080 Grits.
01:32:15.600 I don't do grits at all.
01:32:18.020 It's terrible.
01:32:18.740 Well, you know what?
01:32:21.040 You're going to eat what's in front of you.
01:32:23.060 We get another glimpse at Casey's skill in fabricating information and her ability to intertwine specific details to afford her lies some credibility.
01:32:31.340 These minor intricacies are what would make her extremely convincing if we didn't happen to know otherwise.
01:32:37.320 They never searched by her full name.
01:32:39.160 And here's the other thing, too.
01:32:40.340 I want to tell you guys about liars like this.
01:32:41.900 They're the most dangerous because they give you 10% truth, you know, 20% truth, and then 80% lie.
01:32:48.760 And the issue is that when you tell some of like a half truth, well, you have to sit there and actually investigate to make sure the rest of it isn't true.
01:32:56.780 So the liars that are able to give you a portion that is correct and true, those are the worst ones because it wastes more of your time because you have to figure out, okay, what's true?
01:33:06.860 What isn't?
01:33:07.360 And that takes investigative power, time, et cetera, which does what?
01:33:11.160 Takes away from your ability to actually figure out what is really going on.
01:33:14.060 And these are the worst people because typically it's always done to deceive and send you in the wrong direction.
01:33:20.480 And it's Z-E-N.
01:33:29.680 Z-E-N-A-I-D-A.
01:33:34.080 I don't think she has a middle name.
01:33:35.880 There was never a middle name on anything that I remember seeing.
01:33:40.740 And I know she went by both last names.
01:33:42.880 She always has since she was younger, since her mom remarried.
01:33:47.380 Flores Gonzalez.
01:33:48.420 And you don't know what her stepdad is.
01:33:49.400 Fernandez Gonzalez.
01:33:51.920 You don't know what?
01:33:54.160 Fernandez Gonzalez.
01:33:55.120 Her dad's first name is Victor.
01:33:59.060 Look at how convincing she is with this, with this lie.
01:34:01.020 Her dad's first name now, you know that?
01:34:03.520 Her stepdad.
01:34:04.600 Or that could be her real dad.
01:34:04.980 Yes, you knew her whole background.
01:34:06.420 Her sonitis.
01:34:07.700 Victor and Gloria are her parents.
01:34:09.560 Victor and Gloria are her parents.
01:34:11.540 But they're separated.
01:34:12.980 Or divorced.
01:34:14.580 They are as of now, yeah.
01:34:15.940 That was her stepdad.
01:34:16.580 Holy!
01:34:17.320 What?
01:34:17.500 But I know she has a lot of money.
01:34:19.160 That's where she got married.
01:34:19.700 What the fuck?
01:34:21.420 Oh, she has a lot of money?
01:34:22.660 Then why is she a nanny?
01:34:24.220 What?
01:34:25.120 Like, what do you...
01:34:26.580 I only get one or two phone calls a day that, you know, that are not nice phone calls.
01:34:34.660 But I get many, many, many phone calls.
01:34:36.700 And many people reaching out that just believe in you.
01:34:40.280 They believe in us finding Kaylee.
01:34:43.380 Okay?
01:34:44.600 So keep your head up high.
01:34:46.200 Oh, no.
01:34:46.460 That's an understatement.
01:34:47.300 Everyone hated Casey Anthony at this point.
01:34:48.920 The mom is just lying to not make her feel like crap.
01:34:51.440 Everyone hated Casey Anthony at this point.
01:34:54.200 And thought and knew she was the perpetrator.
01:34:56.720 They killed her of the baby, too.
01:34:59.000 But if you think of anything that could help, don't be afraid.
01:35:02.640 Oh, I won't hesitate to let you guys know.
01:35:05.600 You have to keep things positive.
01:35:07.280 Positive feelings, Casey.
01:35:09.380 Oh, I know.
01:35:10.000 I have been.
01:35:10.820 I've been staying as positive as I can.
01:35:14.580 But do you think after this long she'd still be local?
01:35:17.260 This is key.
01:35:18.620 There's a possibility.
01:35:19.840 What's your gut telling you right now?
01:35:22.500 You have to tell me that she's okay.
01:35:25.760 Okay.
01:35:26.540 And your gut tells you that she's close or something.
01:35:29.460 She's tight.
01:35:30.420 What's the she right here?
01:35:31.060 She's not far.
01:35:32.340 She's not far.
01:35:33.180 I know in my heart she's not far.
01:35:35.200 I can feel it.
01:35:36.720 Okay.
01:35:37.000 This was perhaps the first time you have anything you want to say to add to that, Angie, or no?
01:35:42.180 I mean, I will spoil the case.
01:35:44.300 Okay.
01:35:44.480 All right.
01:35:44.780 We'll keep going then.
01:35:46.020 But just know that she, once again, doing what she normally does as the liar, right?
01:35:52.100 Gives you air of truth with a bunch of BS surrounding it.
01:35:55.520 Mm-hmm.
01:35:56.040 Okay.
01:35:56.400 And Casey told the truth when speaking of her daughter's whereabouts, as she indeed wasn't
01:36:02.040 that far away.
01:36:03.160 Her attorney, Jose Baez, eventually managed to get her bail, and Casey was fitted with
01:36:08.380 an electronic monitoring device and released on August 21st.
01:36:12.220 She had spent just over one month in custody.
01:36:14.720 Two months later, police were granted permission to arrest Casey on the charge of first-degree
01:36:19.280 murder.
01:36:19.640 She also, guys, had a bodyguard during this time because, obviously, there was a lot of
01:36:26.640 national news on this situation, and, yeah, a lot of people wanted to hurt her because
01:36:31.460 at this point, there was outrage all over the U.S., and let me see if I could find the
01:36:35.480 part here where they had the bodyguard.
01:36:37.740 They actually interviewed him, and he revealed a telling piece of information.
01:36:43.340 It's right here, bam.
01:36:48.520 Absolutely.
01:36:48.960 And in this particular case, it left this jury's watching their heads.
01:36:54.220 Tracked down the bodyguard who was assigned to watch Casey's every move when she was released
01:36:58.860 on bail for eight months in August of 2008.
01:37:02.420 He was witness to every private moment the Anthony family shared while their daughter stayed
01:37:07.060 in their home.
01:37:07.940 Now, let me also let you guys know that typically this is not common to have a bounty, the person
01:37:12.840 that, a bounty hunter, be a bodyguard as well, but you guys got to remember that when
01:37:17.560 they put up, they probably had to put up a significant amount of money, right, to go
01:37:21.920 ahead and get this woman out on bail.
01:37:23.120 And typically in the United States, I know we got a lot of international viewers, so I'll
01:37:25.560 break this down for y'all.
01:37:26.400 When you get a bail, guys, right, let's say your bail is set for $100,000, right?
01:37:29.940 Which in this case, I don't, can you look it up real quick, Angie, how much it was?
01:37:33.700 But when you get a bail.
01:37:35.200 $500,000.
01:37:37.160 It was $500,000?
01:37:37.500 Okay, so perfect.
01:37:38.880 So it was $500,000.
01:37:39.880 That means that she, Casey has to come up with 10% typically between five to 10%, depending
01:37:45.180 on where you at.
01:37:45.820 So she had to come up with, uh, uh, what?
01:37:49.680 50,000 bucks, right?
01:37:51.120 Yeah.
01:37:51.320 That's 10%.
01:37:51.900 So yeah, they come up with 50,000 and then they come up with the other 90%, right?
01:37:56.340 My math sucks, but you guys get the point.
01:37:57.720 You come with that 10%, they give you the other 90.
01:38:00.460 So obviously you got this much money into the situation.
01:38:02.940 You're going to make sure that they show up to court and nothing happens to them because
01:38:07.020 if they die or they don't show up to court, you don't get your money back as the bail,
01:38:10.480 uh, bails bond company.
01:38:11.720 You know what's funny?
01:38:12.440 She was arrested after, I mean, she got bailed in that case, but she also was arrested as
01:38:18.300 well because she was faking like checks.
01:38:21.120 Oh, really?
01:38:22.060 Yeah.
01:38:22.900 Oh, wow.
01:38:23.380 She also got arrested for that as well.
01:38:25.020 Okay.
01:38:25.300 So they, they, they got her for the murder one and they arrested her for some kind of fraud.
01:38:29.240 Okay.
01:38:30.220 So that guys is why, um,
01:38:32.940 they, the bails bond has been also doubled as a bodyguard in this situation to protect
01:38:36.800 their investment.
01:38:37.260 Cause if she doesn't show up to court or something happens to her, they lose their money.
01:38:42.340 And that I worked with facilitated the bond being put down to bail out of jail to make
01:38:47.620 sure nothing happens to Casey.
01:38:49.260 All the crazies were out there at the time, or even something that she might do, you know,
01:38:54.660 hurt herself or take off or whatever.
01:38:57.240 I mean, it's, it's mainly the liability of the bail bond.
01:39:00.120 You were there from the moment she got released.
01:39:02.320 Is that right?
01:39:03.240 Correct.
01:39:03.760 What was she acting like?
01:39:05.420 What was her demeanor when you first saw her?
01:39:07.600 Well, when she got in the car, she was kind of somber.
01:39:09.760 Just there wasn't a lot of talking from the jail to the house.
01:39:12.840 So you stayed in the house.
01:39:14.240 Is that right?
01:39:15.200 Correct.
01:39:15.780 What was your observation of the interaction between Casey and her parents, George and
01:39:20.860 Cindy?
01:39:21.860 Cindy made it kind of clear from the beginning of.
01:39:24.520 All right.
01:39:24.880 Real quick, guys.
01:39:25.760 I know some of you guys were asking about the calculation, inflation, inflation calculator.
01:39:30.720 So I got a CPI inflation calculator for y'all right here.
01:39:33.440 $50,000 back then, guys, was the equivalent to about $70,000 today, December, as of December
01:39:39.520 2022.
01:39:40.840 I know some of you guys, oh, your inflation calculators are like BS, blah, blah, blah.
01:39:44.180 The point I'm trying to make, guys, is that that was a significant amount of money.
01:39:47.980 I mean, it's a significant amount of money today.
01:39:49.800 And she got bailed twice.
01:39:50.300 Yeah, you know what I mean?
01:39:51.100 So $50,000 today is still a lot of money.
01:39:53.240 But back then in 2008, it was even more.
01:39:54.960 And also, guys, remember, in 2008, we were going through a recession.
01:39:58.680 Okay?
01:39:59.200 The economy was really bad.
01:40:00.800 The housing market had crashed.
01:40:02.660 2008 was not a good year.
01:40:04.280 All right?
01:40:04.520 Obama took office.
01:40:05.880 Young Jeezy had just dropped my president is black.
01:40:08.840 You know, I graduated high school.
01:40:10.980 What else is going on in 2008?
01:40:13.440 You know, Young Jeezy come out with I put on.
01:40:17.880 We're talking about a recession all the way.
01:40:19.420 It was a tough time, guys.
01:40:21.660 All right?
01:40:22.400 2008.
01:40:23.000 I know all you old boys out there.
01:40:24.300 Y'all know exactly what I'm talking about.
01:40:25.580 I'll bring it down back through memory lane, aren't I?
01:40:29.780 So $50,000 back.
01:40:31.060 That was a lot of money, bro.
01:40:33.720 And she got bailed twice.
01:40:34.960 And she got bailed twice.
01:40:35.920 So that puts things in perspective for y'all.
01:40:38.060 All right?
01:40:40.480 We can't push her.
01:40:42.400 We can't bug her about what happened.
01:40:45.500 If we push her, she'll close up and we won't get the answers.
01:40:49.420 George was having a real, he was like an emotional roller coaster.
01:40:53.120 Very intelligent man who loves his granddaughter.
01:40:57.300 Cindy and George were practically raised.
01:40:59.180 You guys are going to see how much he loves his granddaughter here in a second.
01:41:03.840 You know, while Casey's off running around.
01:41:07.020 Well, the very first event was the first morning.
01:41:12.300 We awoke to George in a physical confrontation going after Casey.
01:41:17.660 Whoa, what was that?
01:41:18.580 And he's grabbing her.
01:41:20.660 Like he's choking her.
01:41:22.400 He's turning into Scorpion.
01:41:23.980 Get over here!
01:41:25.680 Where's my granddaughter?
01:41:27.480 Where is she?
01:41:28.400 He was going home.
01:41:29.680 Poor thing.
01:41:31.100 Poor grandpa.
01:41:31.960 Yeah.
01:41:33.600 He was pressed.
01:41:36.260 He was pressed.
01:41:37.700 Yeah, look at that.
01:41:38.040 We awoke to George in a physical confrontation going after Casey.
01:41:43.880 Whoa, what was that?
01:41:44.820 And he's grabbing her.
01:41:46.860 Like he's choking her.
01:41:48.000 He wanted to know what happened.
01:41:49.880 He wanted the real story.
01:41:51.280 Where's Kaylee?
01:41:52.340 Immediately the house erupted and Cindy threw him out of the house.
01:41:56.020 Said, you gotta go.
01:41:57.120 Said, we can't do this to her.
01:41:59.340 You're out.
01:42:00.100 Made him leave.
01:42:01.280 If this really happened, George's behavior in this private family moment shows a man desperate for answers.
01:42:07.300 A man who's reached his breaking point.
01:42:10.560 Casey's response.
01:42:11.280 Chat saying, W, grandpa.
01:42:12.700 I agree with y'all, man.
01:42:13.840 W, grandpa in the fucking chat, baby.
01:42:16.720 Responds.
01:42:17.280 She yelled at her dad.
01:42:18.560 She said, stop acting like a cop.
01:42:20.040 You hear you have a father, again, that's an ex-cop.
01:42:23.560 I want the real answers.
01:42:25.140 I mean, that was a very honest emotion coming through.
01:42:29.200 If Rob's story is true, it's a revelation.
01:42:32.320 Because this intense outburst in the privacy of his own home certainly gives us a glimpse into the mindset of George Anthony.
01:42:39.680 Those alleged actions just don't sound like the actions of someone who knew what happened to Kaylee and helped cover it up.
01:42:45.780 Makes me wonder where he's now.
01:42:46.840 Which is what the defense tried to go ahead and, in their theory, is that George was involved in the murder, which you guys are going to see here in a second.
01:42:52.600 Yes, Amanda?
01:42:53.080 Go ahead.
01:42:53.800 Yeah, well, the documentary that Picard just released is basically that.
01:42:59.220 It's Casey talking about how she framed her father.
01:43:04.180 Well, she framed, I don't know if that's the right word.
01:43:06.260 But she basically blamed her father.
01:43:09.860 You'll see it later on.
01:43:10.980 Yeah, the Peacock documentary.
01:43:12.580 Yeah, it just came out.
01:43:13.220 It came out, like, end of last year, right?
01:43:15.840 Yeah, I think so.
01:43:16.600 It came out in November.
01:43:17.740 It has terrible reviews, though, because everyone is like, yo, why are you platforming this woman?
01:43:21.160 Everybody knows that.
01:43:22.820 It's one of the most hated women in the States.
01:43:25.680 Yeah, one of the most hated women in America, I would say.
01:43:28.060 In America.
01:43:28.760 Yeah, for sure.
01:43:29.680 Yeah.
01:43:30.360 I mean, do they know about her in Venezuela?
01:43:32.740 I knew about her.
01:43:33.760 I don't know.
01:43:34.020 You knew about her?
01:43:34.680 Oh, shit.
01:43:35.180 Goddamn.
01:43:35.560 Okay.
01:43:36.280 All right.
01:43:36.760 Let's get back to the original doc.
01:43:39.540 ...for interrogation, but immediately requested her right to counsel.
01:43:43.240 She was kept in...
01:43:43.920 So she gets brought in the second time, guys, on the murder charge and then the forgery charge, which I didn't know about.
01:43:48.720 Shout out to Angie for that.
01:43:50.460 So she obviously invokes, because she's not stupid at this point.
01:43:52.860 She's like, all right, these guys, they're trying to really press me for murder one.
01:43:56.100 And just so y'all guys know, in the state of Florida, murder one is premeditated murder, and it carries the death penalty.
01:44:01.340 The interview room while awaiting her attorney and the released footage of that period is so bizarre to the point where it's almost comical.
01:44:09.120 The detectives give off a passive yet glaringly obvious vibe that lets Casey know exactly what they think, being that she is guilty of her daughter's probable death and a fundamentally terrible human being on every imaginable level.
01:44:21.660 Casey's response to this is to essentially ignore it and act as if the discourse between them and the situation itself is an everyday occurrence.
01:44:29.380 Yo, she looks crazy right there, bro.
01:44:31.760 Like, what is going on?
01:44:32.900 I think that's why they used that photo in here.
01:44:34.880 Yeah, man.
01:44:35.920 This woman is not normal.
01:44:37.680 In all cases, they used that photo.
01:44:39.260 Yeah.
01:44:40.380 One that perhaps doesn't concern the disappearance of her daughter, for which she is being charged for.
01:44:45.260 You'll notice that she effortlessly maintains the same confident and talkative disposition that she had in her previous interviews with police.
01:44:52.160 It's almost surreal to watch, given the circumstance, and the visual element adds an entire new level to the absurdity.
01:44:59.380 This makes me cringe.
01:45:00.340 Yeah, guys.
01:45:00.900 So here's the custodial interview that they have with her.
01:45:03.640 Is she guys because she's handcuffed?
01:45:04.700 They brought her in after she had been out on bail.
01:45:08.460 Guys, this is cringy.
01:45:09.940 Yes, this is wild stuff.
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01:46:00.560 The first segment of footage shows the arresting officer waiting with Casey for the lead investigator to arrive.
01:46:06.380 He initiates the conversation by bringing up the subject of Casey's parents.
01:46:10.440 He asserts that he's worried about them, but the actual message he's putting across is that he essentially knows Casey is guilty and that she isn't fooling anyone.
01:46:18.900 It's an indirect yet obvious accusation.
01:46:22.060 Okay, so real quick for you guys.
01:46:23.740 Okay, so this is very common.
01:46:25.040 As you guys can see, look at what the detective is wearing, okay?
01:46:27.640 He's wearing a polo shirt and some 5'11 pants, all right?
01:46:30.560 And 5'11 pants are tactical pants that pretty much any Fed detective, any law enforcement officer typically is going to wear when they're executing arrest.
01:46:37.620 He has the combat boots, et cetera.
01:46:38.900 So they went ahead and they executed the arrest, went and picked her up.
01:46:41.880 Now, this is strategic.
01:46:44.000 Since he's the one that arrested her, more than likely he was the one that cuffed her up.
01:46:47.260 He was the one that read her original rights when he saw her and put her in the car, et cetera, and gets her, you know, because obviously it's a sucky situation.
01:46:55.020 She's in cuffs, et cetera.
01:46:55.800 So he's, hey, you have the right to remain silent.
01:46:57.880 You say could be used against you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
01:46:59.520 When he arrests her, reads it off the random card, transports her to the thing.
01:47:02.940 His job is to soften her up and make her feel a little bit more comfortable even though the situation sucks.
01:47:08.820 So he's sitting there with her so that she has some semblance of someone that she can sort of identify with slash that's kind of built rapport with her.
01:47:17.320 And what you guys are going to see right now is he's going to take a more, I'm on the outside, I'm not involved in this situation, I was just brought to arrest you.
01:47:26.140 You know, I don't really know too much about this case, et cetera, even though he probably knows a lot about this case.
01:47:30.320 But he's trying to be the rapport builder so that when the lead investigator comes in and he's going to be a way more, you know, accusatory in their nature in the interview, there's a little bit of comfort in the room to some degree.
01:47:42.080 So, and I used to do this all the time, like I'd be the arresting guy, I'd get the fucking guy, especially with pedophiles.
01:47:46.680 When I used to go pick up the, because I never actually did the pedophile cases, I would be the one to go ahead and arrest them because in Laredo, Texas, I was like one of the younger agents.
01:47:54.720 So I was always there on arrest teams.
01:47:56.300 Sometimes these guys were former law enforcement, military, whatever it may be, you know.
01:48:01.000 So you would always want people that were able-bodied to execute these arrests.
01:48:03.940 So when you get them, I'd come from up, blah, blah, blah, put them in the car, transport them to the office.
01:48:09.700 I'd be shooting the shit with them.
01:48:10.560 You know what I mean? You got to identify with these sick bastards sometimes.
01:48:13.660 And my job is to kind of soften them up, you know, shoot the crap with them.
01:48:18.240 Hey, man, I was just, hey, it's not my case. I'm just here to pick you up, bro.
01:48:20.820 It is what it is. Here's the arrest warrant. It's not personal. I'm just getting you, all right?
01:48:24.380 And then we're shooting the stuff. Hey, what kind of music do you want?
01:48:27.220 I'll play whatever you want on the radio or you want to listen to a podcast, all that, right?
01:48:30.620 And we're having a conversation. Hey, you want to stop? Get some food.
01:48:33.520 I'm doing all that, right? And I'm softening them up so that when I bring them to the office, right?
01:48:39.700 The actual case agents are there ready to interview them, right?
01:48:43.420 So I bring them in. Hey, here you go, man. These guys got some questions for you.
01:48:49.160 It's good talking to you. My name is blah, blah, blah. Later. I'll be outside if you need me, right?
01:48:54.580 And I'll sit around for a bit, whatever.
01:48:56.340 And this is all very important, guys, because this is a traumatic experience a lot of times.
01:48:59.840 So when you're dealing with a criminal, they need someone that they feel like they can kind of talk to or they can trust.
01:49:04.760 And it's happened before where I brought someone in. I was polite to them. I was nice to them.
01:49:08.600 And then the interviewing agents, right, will be kind of mean to the guy.
01:49:12.180 Hey, what the hell? Give me the facts, blah, blah, blah.
01:49:14.240 Right? And they're like, man, I don't want to talk to you, bro. Bring that other guy in that brought me here.
01:49:17.660 He's cool. I want to talk to him.
01:49:19.240 And then they'll bring me in and I'll do the interview, right?
01:49:21.920 And it might be for a case that I'm not even really involved in like that.
01:49:24.860 I was just on the arrest team, but I had built rapport with them to the point where they're like, you know what?
01:49:29.160 I want to talk to you. You're cool. I know I'm messed.
01:49:31.360 I know y'all got me dead to rights. I know I'm effed in this situation.
01:49:34.480 But you know what? Let me at least get a little bit of power here and talk to someone that I want to talk to.
01:49:40.660 And my thing, guys, was when I arrested people, right, my job is to take away your liberty, not take away your dignity, right?
01:49:48.600 I was pretty respectful most of the time when I dealt with these crooks.
01:49:52.740 And that was really good for building rapport.
01:49:54.640 So it would happen often where I'd be on the arrest team and they'd call me in to actually do the interview.
01:49:58.480 And it'd be crazy because it'd be like a crime that I'm not too familiar with.
01:50:01.180 It'll be like some, you know, counter proliferation, right, which is, you know, exporting arms and stuff like that.
01:50:06.140 I had never really like HSI investigates those cases, but I was like a drug investigator.
01:50:11.000 Like I was doing drugs and human smuggling and I did firearms and stuff like that.
01:50:14.600 But it was like smuggling of firearms, like what Mexican cartels, not like, you know, Iran and all this other stuff.
01:50:20.120 And, you know, you know, dual dual use items and night vision goggles, all this other stuff like that gets really complex once you get into it.
01:50:28.260 So there's a situation where I'm like, OK, I'm just like taking a note here, trying to figure out what's going on.
01:50:32.540 But the guy wanted to talk to me more.
01:50:34.020 So that happens.
01:50:34.660 And this is the beauty of building rapport with the criminals, et cetera, which is what this guy is doing here.
01:50:38.960 So, yeah, hope you guys enjoyed that little breakdown.
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01:50:49.300 Before I play this, Angie, you have anything for the people?
01:50:51.180 No.
01:50:51.620 No.
01:50:51.780 This is very important.
01:50:52.700 Yeah.
01:50:53.060 The interview.
01:50:54.460 Some of what I said to them probably offended them because I told them that if I find out something that you don't want to hear, I'm going to tell you what.
01:51:03.400 Well, honestly, they'll respect that.
01:51:05.540 That's just, you know, the type of people that they are on the same line.
01:51:10.780 I know they are.
01:51:13.220 It was never my intention to piss anybody in your family off.
01:51:16.220 You know, I'm not in it to get a conviction.
01:51:18.280 I get nothing out of it.
01:51:19.380 I get zero.
01:51:20.280 Exactly.
01:51:20.760 You have a job you're trying to do.
01:51:23.300 I found a few and I found a few and it sucks both ways.
01:51:27.680 Yeah.
01:51:28.400 I agree.
01:51:31.680 It is what it is.
01:51:32.720 Where I get sideways with people tends to be when attorneys get involved.
01:51:43.880 I've heard most people say that.
01:51:45.380 They don't like attorneys very much.
01:51:46.920 I have many family members that are attorneys.
01:51:49.200 I have no problems with attorneys.
01:51:51.260 What I have problems with are at some point we have to set aside the rules and we have to fight kids.
01:51:57.580 And you know what?
01:52:00.540 So be it.
01:52:01.080 That's why I told you in the car.
01:52:02.880 You know, if you tell me anything now.
01:52:04.940 See, that's why I told you in the car.
01:52:06.280 So he's been able to build a report for a while, guys.
01:52:08.800 I'll get up and say, yep, I heard it.
01:52:10.760 You already invoked him.
01:52:11.980 We can't use any of it.
01:52:14.620 That's just the way it is.
01:52:15.720 That's all that matters to me.
01:52:16.960 Okay.
01:52:17.600 Translation, guys.
01:52:18.200 So what he basically said there was they're willing to lose the investigation to find the kid.
01:52:27.100 And what I mean by that is if she invokes, right, and she says, I don't want to talk to y'all.
01:52:34.020 And then she goes ahead and says something, right?
01:52:36.940 I mean, that could be considered a spontaneous utterance or whatever.
01:52:39.400 But if they ask her a question, right, an incriminated question, let's say she invokes.
01:52:44.180 And then they ask her, well, where's the kid?
01:52:45.900 And she answers, well, she might have a grounds to be able to say, oh, well, I had evoked and you guys asked me incriminating questions that can't be used against me.
01:52:53.160 And she would have a strong case with her defense.
01:52:54.960 Obviously, that's up to the judge and the court, et cetera.
01:52:58.040 But that goes to show the nature where, you know, the case is one thing, but we're more concerned with finding this child.
01:53:04.580 Is this child alive?
01:53:05.440 Where's this child going at?
01:53:06.420 Even though they had charged her for this point at murder one.
01:53:09.360 So, you know, this is kind of where you're at a crossroads.
01:53:13.720 Where what's more important, sticking to charge or finding the kid?
01:53:18.680 And this guy, right?
01:53:20.560 I mean, it's not his case, which kind of explains why he doesn't, you know, give a shit.
01:53:25.780 He's more concerned with finding the kid, which rightfully so.
01:53:27.740 That's the way it should be, right?
01:53:29.100 So, hey, if you walk, but we find the kid, it is what it is.
01:53:34.600 We'll take that, right?
01:53:35.820 And that goes to show, guys, like, you know, when it comes to finding children, that's always the number one priority.
01:53:40.300 You know, we don't care about sticking a case on someone if you can find the kid, even if you have to violate the rights a little bit to do so.
01:53:47.060 And I hate to say it.
01:53:47.760 Like, I hate that comes off so horribly.
01:53:50.020 But they would rather have her evoke, right?
01:53:54.060 Ask the incriminating question.
01:53:55.400 She answers it.
01:53:56.660 They find the kid.
01:53:58.240 She walks.
01:53:59.040 They'd rather that.
01:54:00.520 You know what I mean?
01:54:00.920 Because finding a kid is a W for any police department.
01:54:03.000 That's better than getting a murder charge.
01:54:05.020 The detective here has essentially a kidnapping case, essentially.
01:54:09.160 ...just asked Casey for the information he knows she has about her missing child.
01:54:13.720 Rather than retaliate and refute the blatant accusation, Casey continues with her sharp responses of accordance as if to say...
01:54:20.760 I agree.
01:54:21.680 F they rights.
01:54:22.340 Find the child.
01:54:22.960 I agree with that 1,000%.
01:54:24.360 I agree.
01:54:28.400 So that's the number one priority.
01:54:30.740 You know what I mean?
01:54:31.140 She agrees and knows exactly where the detective is coming from.
01:54:36.440 Yet, although she apparently agrees, she offers no information or follow-up dialogue thereafter.
01:54:41.980 It's so incredibly awkward, yet equally intriguing to watch.
01:54:45.740 And, uh, you know, when we did another case that I was involved in, you know, they lost a confession.
01:54:55.120 And I sat there and I looked right at the guys that we worked with.
01:54:57.100 I said, who cares?
01:54:59.400 Yeah.
01:54:59.640 Yeah, so he's giving an example, right?
01:55:02.260 This is, and this is important too.
01:55:04.120 Hey, we've lost a confession before.
01:55:05.880 We've had people walk.
01:55:07.480 So you could tell me, right?
01:55:09.520 You could tell me.
01:55:10.140 Because remember, guys, she evoked at this point, right?
01:55:11.900 So she said, I want a lawyer.
01:55:13.220 So he shouldn't even really be talking to her like this at this point.
01:55:16.520 But they want, that's how much they want to find the kid.
01:55:19.160 Right?
01:55:21.140 We found her.
01:55:23.320 We found her and he's going to get what is coming to him.
01:55:25.540 That's not my job.
01:55:26.340 You know, and it works out in the end.
01:55:30.320 And it works out in the end on all sides, to be honest with you.
01:55:34.440 It may not be comfortable for everybody.
01:55:37.460 And there's five dozen things that I get caught for.
01:55:40.600 I'm not going to be comfortable, I can tell you that.
01:55:42.420 It's just the way life is.
01:55:44.300 It's not into the conversation.
01:55:45.600 Yep.
01:55:45.800 But it's not the end of the road either.
01:55:48.440 And that's what we have to keep in mind.
01:55:49.860 It's not the end of the road.
01:55:52.420 Yeah.
01:55:53.720 Casey then casually brings up the topic of the grand jury and the media surrounding her
01:55:58.240 murder trial.
01:55:59.040 She raises the questions as if she's talking about her favorite daytime TV show.
01:56:03.180 Yeah, I know.
01:56:03.540 But if the subpoena itself is just a regular federal court or grand jury subpoena, that's
01:56:07.520 public records.
01:56:08.480 Yeah.
01:56:08.660 It doesn't say what it's for.
01:56:09.960 It doesn't say what case it's in.
01:56:11.300 It doesn't.
01:56:11.620 It just says your subpoena to appear before the grand jury.
01:56:13.740 Well, with them announcing that, you know, there was going to be a grand jury, obviously
01:56:17.320 my name was thrown out.
01:56:18.640 They knew who the grand jury was for.
01:56:22.140 Who threw your name out?
01:56:24.980 All of the media said that it was from an inside source, meaning in here.
01:56:30.060 All right.
01:56:30.320 Let me translate this for you guys into English.
01:56:32.340 Some of you guys may or may not be aware of what a grand jury is, et cetera.
01:56:35.420 Typically, guys, a grand jury is convened to indict someone and formally charge them.
01:56:39.260 OK, so when a grand jury is convened, it's people of your peers, right?
01:56:42.420 Just the same thing as a jury.
01:56:43.380 They come in, they hear a case.
01:56:45.060 Typically, the prosecutor and the lead investigator go in there, they present the facts of the
01:56:48.120 case, and then they leave the room and then the grand jury deliberates.
01:56:51.820 And if they they think that there's probable cause, remember, guys, the threshold for probable
01:56:55.440 cause is much lower than that of reasonable doubt.
01:56:57.140 Reasonable doubt is in trial.
01:56:58.520 Probable cause is just to get an indictment, a formal charge on someone to arrest someone.
01:57:02.560 If they think that there's probable cause, they go ahead and return something called the
01:57:05.520 true bill of indictment.
01:57:06.580 Bam.
01:57:07.020 They get an arrest warrant.
01:57:08.080 The detective goes ahead and gets an arrest warrant after that.
01:57:10.600 And then they're able to go ahead and execute the arrest.
01:57:12.780 What she's asking is, well, tell me more about like me getting formally charged by a grand
01:57:18.100 jury, et cetera, which is an asinine question to be asking, because clearly if they arrested
01:57:23.480 you more than likely, you've probably either been indicted and or they got an arrest warrant
01:57:28.420 off of a criminal complaint and you're going to be subsequently indicted anyway.
01:57:32.540 So in a case of this magnitude, I wouldn't be surprised if they went ahead and just indicted
01:57:36.940 her first and then went ahead and got her because she was out on bail.
01:57:39.080 There was no real urgency to go get her like that.
01:57:41.380 Right.
01:57:41.940 So the fact that she's inquiring about this is ludicrous.
01:57:46.060 Right.
01:57:46.420 From my professional perspective of being a law force officer, why would you care about
01:57:51.220 a grand jury convening and arresting you and the media being involved when your kid is
01:57:55.140 missing?
01:57:56.200 Like, what the hell is going on here?
01:57:57.980 Like, but anyway, just so you guys understand what's what's what she's talking about when
01:58:03.940 she's discussing the grand jury.
01:58:05.880 So that's where they all see is.
01:58:07.900 I can tell you what I think of the media and what I think of people who accept the media.
01:58:12.400 I think it's garbage.
01:58:13.460 Yeah, I agree.
01:58:15.800 That doesn't make it any less necessary without them.
01:58:25.700 I'll be quite honest, without the media, we don't find a quarter of the kids that we
01:58:29.980 Oh, I agree.
01:58:30.900 It helps.
01:58:31.480 The exposure has helped bring in so many tips for my daughter.
01:58:34.940 But at the same time, what it creates is it creates a monster that otherwise isn't necessary.
01:58:40.320 Exactly.
01:58:41.060 The tips are what the tips are.
01:58:44.020 If it was a local media only, it would be much easier to work.
01:58:48.500 Yeah.
01:58:49.040 When you make it the national media, then you come up with-
01:58:51.460 You get the Nancy Graces.
01:58:52.620 Well, you get the tips also that come from Hawaii that say, I saw Kaylee.
01:58:58.700 Really?
01:59:00.340 Okay.
01:59:01.020 Let me call Hawaii.
01:59:02.020 Let me send them out.
01:59:03.040 Let me do that.
01:59:03.540 The ones that are a little bit closer.
01:59:04.760 Those are what I consider local.
01:59:06.620 Because the local stations are going to come that's contiguous to the state of Florida.
01:59:11.260 It's not.
01:59:11.800 When people are only getting their information from the Nancy Graces or from Globe Magazine or
01:59:16.620 People or, you know, stuff like that.
01:59:18.560 Are you kidding me?
01:59:19.400 You're not going to be very bad, right?
01:59:23.760 All right.
01:59:24.540 So now this is a lead investigator coming into the picture.
01:59:27.160 We're going to call him on my cell phone.
01:59:28.920 Okay.
01:59:31.060 I know this is-
01:59:32.120 Oh, yeah.
01:59:32.700 That's not good.
01:59:33.600 Pull back there.
01:59:36.140 Just slide your hands out.
01:59:37.360 No, I'll put it in.
01:59:37.860 I honestly can't.
01:59:39.460 So they're a little tight.
01:59:40.640 Thanks for entertaining us.
01:59:45.400 Just slide your hands out.
01:59:45.840 Way to go, Corporal Edwards.
01:59:48.460 Actually, if I could, I would have done that for you.
01:59:50.860 Do you know Baez's phone number off the top of your head?
01:59:52.800 No, I do not.
01:59:53.700 How can you get the cell number or his number?
01:59:56.160 I know his office number.
01:59:58.280 What is that?
01:59:59.380 407.
01:59:59.700 I've identified myself.
02:00:01.100 You know why you're in custody.
02:00:02.320 Yes.
02:00:04.180 And you have, you signed this.
02:00:06.580 You want your attorney present.
02:00:07.640 Yes.
02:00:08.580 Hey.
02:00:09.240 Oh, my bad.
02:00:09.780 This is not the lead attorney, lead detective.
02:00:11.880 You guys are going to see him here in a second.
02:00:13.180 It's Casey.
02:00:14.380 I'm with Corporal Edwards.
02:00:17.160 I'm not the last name.
02:00:18.140 Sorry.
02:00:18.940 I'm at the sheriff's department.
02:00:21.800 If you'd like to come down and meet with us.
02:00:23.980 Thank you.
02:00:26.500 This is the lead detective right here.
02:00:27.820 Yes.
02:00:28.320 To answer your other question, from that picture, I cut my hair.
02:00:33.840 It was really short, even last year.
02:00:35.260 I just started growing it back out this year.
02:00:40.080 Yes, about that.
02:00:43.040 Okay.
02:00:46.900 It's been a long day.
02:00:48.420 It has been.
02:00:49.520 How was my dad this morning?
02:00:52.820 In a hard time.
02:00:54.160 Yeah.
02:00:54.560 Honestly.
02:00:54.880 So my only saw from the media and got a chance to hear him talking to my mom.
02:00:59.860 I spoke to him last night and this morning for just a quick second before he left.
02:01:04.060 Yeah.
02:01:04.520 Talked to him this morning for a little bit.
02:01:06.340 He was with Mark and, you know, he was really struggling.
02:01:09.620 I mean, I can imagine he was having a hard time.
02:01:11.100 But, you know, he was being called in to essentially provide testimony to indict you, or at least.
02:01:21.280 Bam.
02:01:21.860 So he had to come in and provide information that led to the arrest of his daughter.
02:01:28.680 Right, guys?
02:01:29.360 So this, now she's finding out that her dad is basically responsible to a degree for her being arrested for murder one.
02:01:40.980 Okay.
02:01:41.760 Which could be, you know, you guys can theorize that that might be the reason that her defense was so hard on going after her father, saying that he was the perpetrator in the death of Kaylee Anthony, the daughter.
02:01:56.760 And he was really struggling with that.
02:01:58.760 Yeah.
02:01:59.760 And, uh, and I felt bad, if I'm going to be honest with you.
02:02:03.340 I truly did.
02:02:04.180 Well, I hadn't told him last night.
02:02:05.520 I know he was subpoenaed and under the law he had to answer whatever questions were asked him and I told him to do what he had to do.
02:02:12.540 Imagine you were Casey, but void of any wrongdoing whatsoever.
02:02:16.200 Your daughter was kidnapped five weeks ago and now a detective who thinks you're the culprit is relaying the agonizing moments of your father providing information for your arrest.
02:02:25.020 No matter how stoic or self-controlled your nature, you would most likely be in tears or completely enraged at the overwhelming unjustness of the situation.
02:02:34.540 Are you anxious about today at all?
02:02:36.960 Um, I have been.
02:02:38.540 I mean, this is something, honestly, we've been preparing for from the beginning, just because of words that were directly spoken from Yuri Malich and also from, uh, Sergeant Allen.
02:02:49.680 They were saying that this is what-
02:02:50.800 So basically this interview right here is just to get Casey to talk to the leaders investigators about the case and they wanted to indulge, like, uh, deeper into the investigation.
02:03:01.800 To ask, like, more deep questions about what happened to Kaylee and all that.
02:03:05.700 Yeah.
02:03:05.980 But, uh, she called the attorney and, uh, uh, apparently he denied, like, any, like, conversations with the, the leader investigations because that would not, uh, like, aid the case for her.
02:03:19.300 Yeah.
02:03:19.580 So-
02:03:20.080 And you guys are gonna see that here in a second.
02:03:21.640 Mm-hmm.
02:03:21.960 Which is very, very interesting.
02:03:23.240 But I think this was a play because they knew that she had already, like, invoked at this point.
02:03:27.400 I think they wanted to see how she would react to her dad testifying against her and providing other-
02:03:32.640 And then, and then also a lot of times when people lawyer up like this, you'll tell them the evidence you have against them so that they can kind of feel the walls closing in and give them some pressure.
02:03:40.540 So I think that's what the-
02:03:41.420 She was not giving in.
02:03:42.740 Yeah, exactly.
02:03:43.680 Which you guys are gonna see that here in a second.
02:03:45.040 Her delusion continues.
02:03:46.700 They were planning on doing it from the very beginning, from that first day.
02:03:49.700 So they wrote me off within the first couple hours.
02:03:52.240 That was the only time they ever made any effort to try to talk to me one-on-one.
02:03:57.440 And-
02:03:57.560 That was kind of difficult.
02:03:59.100 That was kind of difficult, considering-
02:04:00.740 Well, considering, um, obviously in light of everything that's going on, and the fact that you've been arrested for other things,
02:04:06.040 makes it a little more difficult to sit down and even talk to you.
02:04:09.100 Mm-hmm.
02:04:09.660 It's not that we haven't wanted to.
02:04:11.120 Yeah.
02:04:11.980 But I do have counsel, and that's something that, you know, my attorney's always been a phone call away.
02:04:18.100 Has your attorney ever told you that we would like to speak to you?
02:04:20.940 And we had agreed, him and I together, that we would all sit down together, him and I, and you guys, and, you know, we'd entertain whatever questions you have.
02:04:30.840 There is no possible way that a defense attorney would actually sit down and, as Casey states, entertain any question the police have for them.
02:04:39.740 Yet if we weren't paying close attention, we would take her at her word due to the eloquence of her dialogue and not realize everything she's saying is complete nonsense.
02:04:48.380 This is a fact.
02:04:49.860 No defense attorney is going to allow you to talk to the police with them present, guys.
02:04:53.700 It's just not going to happen.
02:04:54.740 They're going to always say, nope.
02:04:56.200 Like, nope.
02:04:56.900 Nope.
02:04:57.240 No, thank you.
02:04:57.840 We're not talking to y'all.
02:04:58.780 The only way a defense attorney is going to sit there and allow you to talk to the police with them there present typically is through a 5K proffer where you're getting some kind of benefit,
02:05:06.960 and you're going to get a significant amount of time being taken off or a safety valve or some kind of debrief where there's also a prosecutor there
02:05:14.120 and there was some agreed upon benefit to the defendant and the defense counsel is aware of it.
02:05:21.780 There's something in writing.
02:05:22.840 That's the only way a defense attorney will allow you to speak to the police 99% of the time.
02:05:27.900 Otherwise, they're always going to tell you, shut up.
02:05:30.200 Don't say a word.
02:05:32.060 And she's not dumb.
02:05:33.100 She knows this.
02:05:34.040 What is she doing?
02:05:34.720 She playing the game.
02:05:35.600 Stupid.
02:05:36.960 It's pretty clear that, you know, we wanted to talk to you.
02:05:39.420 I mean, obviously, we can't come to you and ask you.
02:05:41.920 Yeah, understandably.
02:05:43.600 You know, I thought that you were aware that if you wanted to talk to anybody, that all you had to do was simply ask.
02:05:49.880 Yeah.
02:05:50.260 Well, I know it goes both ways on that, and I guess it would have needed to come from me.
02:05:56.080 I should have been the one to, I guess, come forward with it.
02:06:00.520 But, you know, we did open up that door to law enforcement before.
02:06:04.220 When Sergeant Allen is making a big deal saying, well, we want to talk to her.
02:06:08.680 When can we talk to her?
02:06:09.680 He's saying, well, the door's open.
02:06:12.380 I don't believe he ever told us the door's open.
02:06:14.540 What's fascinating is how instinctive and confident her assertions are.
02:06:18.700 In any other circumstance, or even without the knowledge we have now, you would have no reason not to believe everything she's saying.
02:06:25.160 I've heard the words come out of his mouth.
02:06:26.660 Yeah, she's a trained liar, guys, as you guys can see here.
02:06:29.160 Even myself directed to other people that maybe didn't either relay the message or took it a different way, so I don't know.
02:06:39.020 I think the lack of communication has put people in opposite corners when everybody has the same goal is to find Kaylee.
02:06:48.480 Like, we all still feel.
02:06:50.760 I, as a mom, I know in my gut there's a feeling as a parent you know certain things about your child.
02:06:56.600 You can feel that connection.
02:06:58.780 And I still have that feeling, that presence.
02:07:03.080 I know that she's alive.
02:07:04.700 What the?
02:07:05.720 Bro.
02:07:07.260 Boom, book out.
02:07:09.220 Whether you have a bucket.
02:07:12.020 She says that now because she got hit with murder, so obviously she's like, no, no, she's alive.
02:07:16.380 A load of evidence downstairs that contradicts that and says otherwise, or all you have is speculation.
02:07:23.720 Or, or nothing at all.
02:07:25.680 I mean.
02:07:26.380 We have more than speculation.
02:07:27.800 As every tip and every lead follow up.
02:07:30.740 Yeah.
02:07:31.540 That we have more than speculation.
02:07:32.300 They had gathered everything, like all that already.
02:07:34.900 Yeah, they knew that she was capped.
02:07:36.780 Mm-hmm.
02:07:37.300 You know?
02:07:38.000 And he's, this is him confronting her with the evidence now at this point.
02:07:40.940 To some degree.
02:07:42.020 All this in Naira Gonzalez existence.
02:07:44.960 Yeah.
02:07:45.640 They found everyone.
02:07:47.300 They interviewed all of them.
02:07:48.520 Hey.
02:07:48.900 There was one that actually like, like sued the Casey.
02:07:54.380 What?
02:07:54.840 Yeah.
02:07:55.420 One of the, one of the, one of the Zannies sued Casey?
02:07:58.660 Yeah.
02:07:58.920 And actually like a real Sinaira Gonzalez wanted to sue her.
02:08:02.840 Yeah.
02:08:03.980 I think she got harassed.
02:08:05.820 No.
02:08:06.300 She didn't get harassed.
02:08:06.980 What did he sue her for then?
02:08:08.380 Because she was using her name.
02:08:10.060 Ah, okay.
02:08:10.860 Okay.
02:08:11.200 That makes sense.
02:08:13.020 It was your cousin.
02:08:16.600 Oh, wow.
02:08:20.180 This was essentially a direct confrontation.
02:08:23.180 The detective has just told Casey they have sufficient evidence to prove her guilt.
02:08:27.160 Casey doesn't refute or even respond to the accusation.
02:08:30.260 She instead falls back to her ridiculous dialogue once again, hoping the confidence in her voice
02:08:35.760 will mask the absurdity of what she's actually saying.
02:08:38.300 Well, I said, I said the same thing to them that, you know, they said that we're at the end of a hallway and I'm thinking we're at the end of a hallway and there's two doors.
02:08:45.760 Which door are we going to go through?
02:08:47.140 Or I guess this is, you know, we're at this point and the final step is which door is locked.
02:08:55.640 We are well beyond where we were before.
02:08:58.080 I mean, those issues are gone.
02:08:59.080 I mean, those issues are gone.
02:09:00.840 Okay.
02:09:01.840 And when we refer to working at the end of the hallway, I think here we can be well aware of what hallway we're talking about.
02:09:08.180 Do you understand that?
02:09:11.180 Um, well, so there's no question, I guess you can specify that at this point for what your perspective is on that.
02:09:22.520 Do you have a second?
02:09:23.520 Absolutely.
02:09:24.520 Can we come right back?
02:09:25.520 Yeah, let's go.
02:09:26.520 I'm right there.
02:09:27.520 I'm not going anywhere.
02:09:28.520 I'm going to scratch out a little bit.
02:09:29.520 I'm not as young as I used to be.
02:09:30.520 It's unfortunate that right when the pressure was starting to build, the second detective interrupts the exchange and they both leave the room soon after.
02:09:38.520 Casey waits alone for roughly 40 minutes before her attorney shows up.
02:09:42.620 He's going to know.
02:09:43.620 Well, here's the thing.
02:09:44.320 I know some of you guys in the chat might be saying, yo, that was stupid, blah, blah, blah.
02:09:47.120 I think I think that was a good move.
02:09:49.360 And I'm going to tell you guys why the reason why it was a good move is that she invoked y'all shouldn't really be talking to her like that.
02:09:55.540 And yes, it's great to give pressure to a defendant, whatever, but you don't want whatever she tells you to get thrown out.
02:10:01.780 So she invoked, let the attorney get there, let her stew for a bit.
02:10:06.000 But, you know, that 40 minutes probably was painful for her because she's like, damn, they got me.
02:10:10.480 And she doesn't know exactly what they have on her yet at this point.
02:10:13.240 They know she knows that they got her, but she doesn't know the exact evidence.
02:10:17.560 So letting her stew there for a bit, letting the lawyer come in.
02:10:20.640 Is the safer bet for saving any type of evidence that might come after the fact, because now anything she says with the lawyer is admissible.
02:10:27.220 So. I think that the detective probably went in there to be like, bro, she invoked.
02:10:34.040 Let the lawyer get here. Let's not jam ourselves up.
02:10:36.740 It is what it is. She knows she's guilty.
02:10:39.020 We're going to prove it in court. She doesn't want to talk. She's not going to talk.
02:10:41.840 She's already lied to three other investigators.
02:10:44.140 Chill. She keeps lying to this date. Exactly.
02:10:46.840 You know what I mean? So this this this detective is probably, you know, a bit emotional about the situation because, you know, there's a missing child, bro.
02:10:54.560 So, like, rightfully so. Right. You're trying to find the kid. What the hell is going on here?
02:10:58.420 So I think this is a good move from the other detective that isn't invested as invested because he's not the lead investigator.
02:11:04.320 So pull him out. Let the lawyer come. Let's not come into any constitutional rights issues and and then see if we can get a statement out of her with the lawyer there.
02:11:13.580 So, you know, take to take one step to hopefully take two steps forward.
02:11:17.480 But you guys are going to see what happens here.
02:11:19.680 Good question. You don't say anything else.
02:11:22.160 So I disagree with the narrator here as far as like, oh, right when the pressure is going, blah, blah, blah.
02:11:25.840 But, bro, you got to remember, she invoked. So you shouldn't be talking to her in the first place.
02:11:29.760 I'm the answer.
02:11:31.160 All right.
02:11:33.400 Casey, based on our conversation today, and I read you that form, it's the same thing I said to Mr.
02:11:39.920 Baez over the phone.
02:11:42.000 It's been numerous requests or requests or opportunities, requests for opportunities.
02:11:45.800 The form what he's talking about, guys, is the Miranda.
02:11:47.940 You have the right to remain silent. You can safely use it against you in a court of law, etc.
02:11:51.260 So and that's when she had invoked the first time.
02:11:54.240 I don't want a lawyer. I want a lawyer.
02:11:56.060 Which you're not supposed to talk to them when they say that.
02:11:57.940 So that's why he's reiterating it now again with the lawyer present.
02:12:01.980 On the record.
02:12:03.860 And come to a resolution here.
02:12:05.640 That's why we brought you here instead of the jail.
02:12:07.700 Correct?
02:12:08.340 Yes.
02:12:08.800 Okay.
02:12:09.460 Now, based on your request for us to call him and bring him here, he's here.
02:12:13.500 So what we're going to try to do is give you a few minutes somewhere that's not recorded.
02:12:18.000 No secrets, I told you.
02:12:19.080 But this room's resorted.
02:12:21.520 I have to be able to approach my chain and explain why.
02:12:23.900 The detective now guilefully takes Casey up on her previous offer, where she insisted they were willing to sit down with police and answer questions.
02:12:31.980 But first, I needed to...
02:12:33.160 Let's see what happens here.
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02:12:40.200 Please like the video, guys.
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02:13:00.080 Just tell him.
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02:13:04.760 I hate to stop the video for this stuff.
02:13:06.220 So just like the video so that we can continue on uninterrupted, please.
02:13:09.380 In your own words, if you will, that you'd like to take the opportunity to deal with us like you've made that request in the past.
02:13:15.400 So is that something you want to tell him?
02:13:17.680 I told him the same thing we talked about before, that we would entertain any questions that they have.
02:13:23.020 We would listen and discuss it.
02:13:25.620 And if we have something to respond, we'll respond.
02:13:28.500 Okay, do you want to speak to me in private so we can clarify this?
02:13:32.380 Yes.
02:13:32.980 See how quick she was?
02:13:34.020 Like, yes, I want to talk to you in private.
02:13:35.700 And they're going to definitely be like, attorney-client privilege, we ain't talking to these motherfuckers.
02:13:39.340 Come as no surprise that no conference was to be had.
02:13:42.840 Casey was instead taken to the county jail, where she would remain for two and a half years awaiting trial.
02:13:48.380 Once this footage was released to the public domain, the consensus was that Casey, at best, was a cold-hearted mother.
02:13:54.220 And at worst, a hideous, despicable murderer.
02:13:56.920 But what's curious is that although these opinions may be accurate, they came from a completely misguided notion, being that her behavior in the footage was entirely genuine.
02:14:06.480 Casey was in all likelihood being completely fake this entire time.
02:14:10.240 So you might be curious as to why a person would actually fake such a poised temperament, when it would be far more fitting to fake sadness and despair.
02:14:17.560 We all have aspects to ourselves that are ungenuine to a certain degree.
02:14:21.940 How we act at a business dinner won't be the way we are at home with our close friends or family.
02:14:26.840 The more comfortable the setting, the more we can be ourselves.
02:14:30.040 Those educated on Casey's past would assert that she was rarely sad, rarely angry, but always this bubbly and agreeable personality, even when it didn't suit the situation.
02:14:39.700 She was one of those people where something just seemed off.
02:14:43.920 Red flags.
02:14:45.660 But you couldn't quite put your finger on it.
02:14:48.020 The evidence put forward suggests that Casey was fake in every single setting and with every single person all of the time.
02:14:54.940 A trait that might go unnoticed in everyday life, yet would clearly stand out when shown under the microscope of a criminal case study.
02:15:01.660 Casey had become so accustomed to this fraudulent way of being that it even came as a natural behavior to her in the extraordinary setting we see here.
02:15:10.400 And the assertion is that because Casey knew just how well she could fabricate this character, she thought she could use it to mask her anxiety and thus conceal guilty behavior.
02:15:20.080 Casey in all likelihood had little to no regard for her daughter.
02:15:23.640 That's not even an argument anymore.
02:15:25.180 But her true temperament here would likely be far more apprehensive due to the concern over her own welfare.
02:15:31.660 Every time the detective insinuated an accusation, Casey kept the same tone, same demeanor, and same confident, lighthearted disposition.
02:15:40.020 If you took her out of this interrogative setting and placed her in the mall with her friends, it would seem completely normal.
02:15:46.040 She would be faking her personality in both environments, yet we are only able to realize it in one.
02:15:53.340 This type of mindset is linked to sociopathy.
02:15:56.260 Whatever the situation or circumstance, they need to have an advantage over you.
02:16:01.660 So how do they do this?
02:16:03.060 They lie.
02:16:03.860 And also calculate how they are going to feel and react to a certain situation before it occurs.
02:16:09.380 The entirety of her focus was on making herself look good rather than being worried about the actual quality of her character.
02:16:16.180 Yo, Abdul get the rocks.
02:16:17.520 Hello, my boy!
02:16:18.620 There we go.
02:16:19.640 There we go.
02:16:20.280 This is haram on another level.
02:16:21.740 Haram!
02:16:22.020 She was a sociobot.
02:16:23.000 Yep.
02:16:23.400 Casey, in a nutshell, was an inauthentic person, long before she ever gave birth to her ill-fated
02:16:30.060 daughter.
02:16:30.820 And her skill at deception alongside her manufactured personality is arguably the most terrifying
02:16:36.600 part of this entire case.
02:16:38.600 On December 11th, 2008, just under five months since she was reported missing, Kaylee's skeletal
02:16:44.480 remains were discovered in a swamp less than a mile away from the Anthony household.
02:16:48.680 She was wrapped in a Winnie the Pooh blanket and then placed in a canvas laundry bag.
02:17:08.500 Duct tape was discovered around the nose and mouth area of the skull, and her death was
02:17:12.780 ruled a homicide.
02:17:13.580 Prosecutors in the case then announced they would be seeking the death penalty.
02:17:17.880 There were a multitude of dis-
02:17:18.960 Rightfully so.
02:17:19.940 ...discoveries made in the lead-up to the trial, and many believed it to be an open and shut
02:17:24.120 case due to the damnatory nature of the evidence.
02:17:27.100 On the last day Kaylee was seen alive by anyone other than her mother, and the day many believed
02:17:31.900 she was murdered, Casey Anthony made the following internet searches.
02:17:37.240 Guys.
02:17:37.760 Shot girl costumes, suffocation, foolproof suffocation.
02:17:44.240 She also looks up how to make chloroform.
02:17:46.840 Oh, man.
02:17:48.460 Holy.
02:17:49.300 Gotcha, bitch.
02:17:50.880 Those are some interesting internet searches.
02:17:52.900 When the police found out about these searches at Anthony's house, that's when the mother started
02:17:59.840 to cover up her lies.
02:18:01.140 She started saying she was the one who was looking for these searches.
02:18:05.180 Yeah.
02:18:05.380 She was the one who was in the computer, but then they later on found out that nobody
02:18:09.620 was at the house except for Casey.
02:18:12.340 Yeah, and they tried to go ahead and assert that it was the father that looked this stuff
02:18:16.340 up, right, at this time, right?
02:18:18.540 It was actually at 2.50 p.m., but the defense during the trial said it was around 1.30 p.m.,
02:18:23.480 guys, which they actually were able to do the right timing and figure it out because the
02:18:27.520 software that was used was not updated.
02:18:30.000 So it actually ended up being 2.50 p.m.
02:18:33.480 when these searches were done and the father was already at work.
02:18:37.460 Okay, guys.
02:18:38.400 So the father was at work at 3 p.m.
02:18:42.000 So he was already out the house.
02:18:44.000 So Casey was the only person in the house at the time these searches were done on Google.
02:18:49.560 All right.
02:18:50.460 But again, the defense back then, right, would try to assert that these searches were conducted
02:18:55.500 at around 1.30 p.m., which is incorrect because the software that the defense used to decrypt
02:19:01.560 it was outdated and didn't give correct timestamps.
02:19:05.540 And she was able.
02:19:06.160 And this was actually a piece of evidence that worked in her favor for the defense.
02:19:11.280 And that's what the defense does, man.
02:19:12.900 Confuse the jury.
02:19:13.720 That's their job.
02:19:14.420 They're not there to prove anything.
02:19:15.460 They're there to they're there to confuse you.
02:19:18.740 That's what a good defense attorney does, guys, so that you're not sure who the perpetrator
02:19:22.300 was.
02:19:22.700 But it is a fact that these searches were actually done at 2.50 and 2.51 p.m., not 1.30 p.m.
02:19:28.440 as shown in the trial back in 2008 because the software was not updated, which is a very
02:19:33.340 important distinction, guys.
02:19:34.340 Well, apparently Kaylee was suffocated first with chloroform and then she got her tape on
02:19:41.800 her mouth and nose.
02:19:42.900 Yes.
02:19:43.240 That's how she died.
02:19:44.220 That's yes.
02:19:46.620 At 7.54 p.m., that same evening, Casey and her boyfriend, Tony, were seen in a blockbuster
02:19:52.460 video store.
02:19:52.980 Oh, you guys are saying, what is a shot girl costume?
02:19:54.880 You guys are going to see here in a second.
02:19:56.640 Kaylee was nowhere in sight, and many presumed she was already dead and decomposing in Casey's
02:20:01.840 trunk at this point.
02:20:02.780 In the following weeks, Casey went out partying most nights.
02:20:06.900 We're going to talk about this real quick here, guys.
02:20:09.360 So that whole time that she was partying, okay, we're going to talk about this right here,
02:20:15.280 what she was actually doing during this period of time.
02:20:19.240 Friend, Tony Lazaro, visiting a blockbuster video store.
02:20:23.300 This is the day that she went missing.
02:20:25.100 Let's rewind it a second.
02:20:26.000 Could wanting this life be her motive?
02:20:33.540 Yes.
02:20:34.340 So day one of the disappearance.
02:20:35.560 That's the answer, yes.
02:20:36.340 Yes.
02:20:36.520 You want to actually talk real quick?
02:20:37.700 A bombshell that actually isn't brought up on this documentary about Casey Anthony.
02:20:42.980 So apparently, Tony, her boyfriend, said days before, I don't remember if it was days or
02:20:51.140 a week before she disappeared, she said that she didn't want it.
02:20:55.540 And I'm going to quote right here.
02:20:57.480 So he said, I will never marry a woman that has a daughter.
02:21:04.160 He said that to Casey days before the baby disappeared.
02:21:08.000 He said he ain't never wiping up a single mom.
02:21:09.480 Exactly.
02:21:09.960 So when everything happened, he felt guilty and he confessed to the officers that he felt
02:21:14.340 guilty about telling her this because he thought that was the main reason why she did this to
02:21:19.500 Kaylee.
02:21:20.280 And then what's the other one about the adoption?
02:21:23.200 Oh, yes.
02:21:24.000 Yeah, that's a big one.
02:21:25.160 This is a breakthrough.
02:21:25.900 Apparently, when she got pregnant, I remember she got pregnant when she was 19 by an unknown
02:21:31.660 individual, her parents, she was going to give the baby in adoption.
02:21:38.120 She didn't want to have the baby and the parents denied this.
02:21:42.260 So they refused for her to give the baby in adoption.
02:21:46.140 So people say this, I didn't tell you this, but people say that she told her friends and
02:21:52.800 like they're the close people that was like relayed to her that she never wanted to have
02:21:57.560 the baby.
02:21:58.000 And that pissed her off a lot.
02:21:59.120 But like she never wanted to essentially forced it, forced her to have the kid.
02:22:02.440 And also they wouldn't allow her to put the child up for adoption.
02:22:06.720 So because that was that's one of the things that people were saying, well, what's the
02:22:09.740 motive?
02:22:10.100 What's the motive?
02:22:11.080 Well, we're going to get into that right here.
02:22:12.880 Exactly.
02:22:13.540 And we're going to see that here in a second.
02:22:15.240 Guys, this girl wanted to be she belongs to the street instead of, you know, you know,
02:22:20.420 instead of taking care of her goddamn kid.
02:22:21.840 So let's go ahead and go through the timeline of what she did while her child was missing.
02:22:28.080 You guys do me a quick favor like the video.
02:22:32.080 On the morning of June 16th, 2008, Kaylee was last seen by her grandparents, George and
02:22:37.800 Cindy Anthony.
02:22:38.740 I remember Kaylee coming out from Casey's room and I said, where are you going?
02:22:42.560 And she's just going with mommy.
02:22:44.820 Casey tells her parents she and Kaylee are spending the night with the nannies and Nida
02:22:48.680 Gonzalez. But that night, Casey's recorded on surveillance video with her boyfriend,
02:22:54.500 Tony Lazaro, visiting a Blockbuster video store.
02:22:57.880 Tony, I want to be a stepdad, I guess.
02:23:00.440 He was watching some RP content.
02:23:03.080 Oh, my God.
02:23:04.840 Kaylee is not present.
02:23:06.820 When you went to Blockbuster with her that night, how would you describe her demeanor?
02:23:11.240 Happy. Happy to see me.
02:23:13.920 Having a grand old time.
02:23:14.940 Did she tell you that her daughter had gone missing?
02:23:20.160 No.
02:23:21.000 Ole!
02:23:21.920 June 20th, Casey goes with Lazaro to Fusion nightclub and enters a hot body contest.
02:23:28.240 Do you recall a hot body contest?
02:23:30.800 Yes.
02:23:31.440 Do you recognize Casey?
02:23:34.120 Streets!
02:23:34.920 She belongs to the streets!
02:23:36.580 My daughter missing!
02:23:38.460 What is she doing?
02:23:39.640 Partying!
02:23:40.560 See Anthony in that photo.
02:23:42.260 Yes.
02:23:42.620 Anything wrong with her demeanor?
02:23:46.120 That she was upset?
02:23:47.360 No.
02:23:48.540 June 27th, Casey and Lazaro go shopping at the mall.
02:23:52.720 And at night, she accompanies Lazaro again to Fusion nightclub.
02:23:57.660 July 2nd...
02:23:58.820 She came in...
02:23:59.520 All these photos were posted on Casey's MySpace, guys.
02:24:03.300 They were on her MySpace?
02:24:04.280 Yeah.
02:24:04.620 Holy, bro!
02:24:05.440 All of them from MySpace.
02:24:07.520 You triggered my trap card!
02:24:09.620 And then she gets the tattoo.
02:24:10.620 Casey gets a tattoo, Bella Vita, which is Italian for beautiful life.
02:24:16.000 How would you describe her demeanor?
02:24:17.300 How is she acting?
02:24:18.180 Uh, normal.
02:24:19.580 July 3rd...
02:24:20.460 Oh, my God!
02:24:21.720 Boom, my God!
02:24:22.940 Cindy Anthony, who has not seen her granddaughter in 18 days, shows up to where she believes Casey
02:24:28.620 works at Universal Studios' Orlando Resort and calls her cell phone.
02:24:32.620 I'm here at Universal Studios...
02:24:34.000 So she didn't even know that she didn't work at this place anymore, guys.
02:24:37.420 I want to pick up Kayleigh.
02:24:40.840 Casey Anthony says, we're in Jacksonville for a while.
02:24:45.080 Cindy Anthony is beside herself.
02:24:46.860 July 4th, Casey attends a 4th of July party and a fireworks show.
02:24:52.240 I was having a 4th of July party.
02:24:53.860 Did the defendant ever tell you she had a child?
02:24:56.160 Yes, sir.
02:24:56.700 When did she tell you that?
02:24:58.240 That evening.
02:24:59.040 Did she tell you her daughter had been kidnapped?
02:25:00.980 No, sir.
02:25:01.340 Finally, on July 15th, Cindy Anthony tracks Casey down and demands answers.
02:25:07.780 Casey was sitting on the floor crying, and I overheard her tell me that Kayleigh had gone
02:25:17.860 for 31 days, and then she said that Sandy had taken her.
02:25:26.480 I swore at her and hit the bed.
02:25:31.340 I swore at her, too.
02:25:32.540 Like, yo, you dumb bitch.
02:25:33.700 What are you doing?
02:25:34.140 Where's my granddaughter, bro?
02:25:35.660 Like, what?
02:25:36.200 Man, it would be, at that point, it would be Street Fighter for me.
02:25:39.600 I'd be like, yo.
02:25:42.420 Yo, we got to solve this with this.
02:25:45.060 I would be hitting her with the...
02:25:47.320 And then the...
02:25:50.320 The next thing you know...
02:25:53.320 Man, it would be a wrap for my daughter if I knew.
02:25:58.200 So, stream is out.
02:26:00.060 I knew it was going to happen.
02:26:01.760 I knew it was going to happen.
02:26:03.340 It's fine, though, guys.
02:26:04.160 We're still live on Twitch right now.
02:26:05.920 YouTube will bring it back.
02:26:07.240 Don't worry about it.
02:26:08.320 We're just going to give it a second here.
02:26:09.660 I knew playing this crap might do that.
02:26:11.720 So, we'll go back to the original video.
02:26:14.440 And that's fine.
02:26:15.420 YouTube does this all the time.
02:26:17.000 They're very lame.
02:26:18.380 So...
02:26:18.960 But we're live on Twitch, though, ninjas!
02:26:20.460 We're live on Twitch!
02:26:21.960 We're live on Twitch.
02:26:22.700 So, before I continue playing the documentary again...
02:26:26.520 Stream suspended for policy violations.
02:26:29.220 Don't worry, guys.
02:26:30.340 This happens all the time.
02:26:31.440 Just to give you guys a quick explanation.
02:26:33.680 I knew this was probably more than likely going to happen,
02:26:35.760 which is why I said,
02:26:36.560 all right, I'm going to make sure I stream this on Twitch as well.
02:26:38.960 And what happens is,
02:26:39.860 if you play some content that may or may not be copyrighted,
02:26:42.960 YouTube isn't sure,
02:26:43.860 what they'll do is,
02:26:45.360 is they'll just, like,
02:26:46.220 kill the stream for a little bit.
02:26:47.780 And then...
02:26:48.620 And then if you keep streaming,
02:26:50.760 they turn it back on,
02:26:52.060 and they just kind of have it go, whatever.
02:26:53.780 Which I knew that documentary might hit us with that,
02:26:57.360 which is why I was ahead.
02:26:58.940 And I knew.
02:27:00.860 And I was like,
02:27:01.520 all right, let's get this thing streamed up on Twitch as well,
02:27:03.640 just in case.
02:27:05.200 So...
02:27:05.560 Smart move.
02:27:06.880 I'm seeing...
02:27:07.300 Yeah, I knew it was coming.
02:27:08.940 But what are your comments so far on this, Angie,
02:27:10.620 while we wait for our YouTube stream to come back up?
02:27:12.280 What are my comments?
02:27:14.020 If you have any.
02:27:14.920 Besides YouTube being out to...
02:27:16.260 Well, basically,
02:27:16.760 I have, like, a general conclusion about this girl.
02:27:19.400 And it's basically probably what everyone thinks
02:27:22.640 and what everyone may agree with me or not.
02:27:26.340 But, yeah, this girl was illusional.
02:27:28.720 She just wanted to party.
02:27:29.740 She never wanted to have a kid.
02:27:32.240 So...
02:27:32.640 She went to the easy...
02:27:34.400 Easy, like, you know,
02:27:35.940 and she killed her daughter.
02:27:38.520 That's for me, though.
02:27:39.580 She killed her daughter.
02:27:41.240 And she was like,
02:27:42.020 yo, I don't have this problem anymore,
02:27:43.600 so I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want
02:27:46.000 without thinking about the consequences.
02:27:47.880 This is what, like, makes me crazy, though.
02:27:51.100 She never thought about the consequences of her actions.
02:27:54.060 So...
02:27:54.360 Yeah.
02:27:54.580 I don't know...
02:27:55.360 I mean,
02:27:56.340 who in, like,
02:27:57.280 their capable mind
02:27:58.460 will do this without thinking,
02:28:00.920 I need to think, like,
02:28:01.980 of something
02:28:02.920 or an excuse
02:28:04.040 or, you know,
02:28:05.120 cover up
02:28:05.640 for her shit
02:28:06.640 because this is why
02:28:07.920 what happened.
02:28:08.500 I mean,
02:28:08.700 this is what happened.
02:28:10.460 No, I believe it.
02:28:11.240 I definitely believe it.
02:28:12.180 That's just a game.
02:28:13.420 So, well,
02:28:14.120 we're back up on YouTube.
02:28:15.160 So, shout out to all the ninjas.
02:28:16.680 We're back, guys.
02:28:17.820 We're back.
02:28:18.460 We're out of YouTube jail again.
02:28:19.520 I knew this was gonna happen, man.
02:28:23.320 I was prepared
02:28:24.160 that this was gonna happen
02:28:25.640 on YouTube.
02:28:26.540 So, don't worry, guys.
02:28:27.240 We didn't continue on the documentary.
02:28:29.040 As y'all know,
02:28:29.600 we were having some fun
02:28:30.380 with the Street Fighter sound effects.
02:28:31.960 But we're back.
02:28:32.420 We're gonna go play off
02:28:33.400 the main documentary
02:28:34.400 because I knew that the other one
02:28:35.660 was gonna be lame,
02:28:36.300 but I kind of wanted y'all to see
02:28:37.620 what was going on
02:28:39.120 with the partying a bit.
02:28:40.440 Three days after her daughter's
02:28:41.880 supposed...
02:28:42.460 My bad.
02:28:42.780 Hold on.
02:28:45.700 She was captured in various photos
02:28:47.880 participating in a hot body
02:28:49.440 contest.
02:28:50.340 Twelve days after,
02:28:51.540 she got a tattoo on her back
02:28:53.120 saying,
02:28:53.860 Bella Vita,
02:28:54.720 an Italian mom...
02:28:55.520 And they brought the tattoo artist,
02:28:56.800 as y'all saw from the other documentary,
02:28:58.260 to see what her demeanor was.
02:28:59.900 And he was like,
02:29:00.420 yeah, it looked like
02:29:00.960 she was having fun.
02:29:01.820 Boom, mocha!
02:29:02.760 Yeah.
02:29:03.540 ...motto that translates
02:29:04.620 beautiful life.
02:29:06.220 She also made an entry
02:29:07.360 in her diary
02:29:08.100 around the same time
02:29:09.380 which read,
02:29:10.080 I completely trust
02:29:11.000 my own judgment
02:29:11.760 and I knew that
02:29:12.600 I made the right decision.
02:29:13.980 This is the happiest
02:29:14.840 that I have been
02:29:15.460 in a very long time.
02:29:16.840 I hope that my happiness
02:29:17.900 will continue to grow.
02:29:18.960 The trial committed...
02:29:20.060 Holy!
02:29:20.580 She put that in her diary?
02:29:21.660 Boom, mocha!
02:29:22.280 Yeah, she did.
02:29:23.080 Yeah.
02:29:23.500 I can't find my daughter
02:29:24.620 but this is the happiest
02:29:25.680 I've ever been.
02:29:26.700 I could be a 304.
02:29:28.900 Woo!
02:29:29.480 She belongs to the streets.
02:29:30.780 You know what I'm saying?
02:29:31.360 She was like,
02:29:31.880 yes.
02:29:32.860 How do we say it in Spanish again?
02:29:34.540 From Ricky Martin.
02:29:35.560 Live it a vida loca.
02:29:36.980 Right?
02:29:37.380 That's what she was.
02:29:37.940 She was on that type of shit.
02:29:39.060 She was dancing
02:29:39.680 because in 08,
02:29:40.820 what?
02:29:40.960 Ricky Martin was still hot,
02:29:41.860 right?
02:29:42.560 Live it a vida loca.
02:29:43.680 Yeah, she was living the life.
02:29:45.040 She was like,
02:29:45.300 she was like,
02:29:45.860 yeah, woo!
02:29:46.660 This is lit!
02:29:47.520 She's going crazy
02:29:48.260 in Orlando in 2008
02:29:49.480 with her fucking Razor cell phone
02:29:51.340 with the flip phone
02:29:52.700 and the T-Mobile sidekick.
02:29:53.900 She's like, woo!
02:29:54.740 She just wanted to have fun
02:29:55.680 with her DJ boyfriend.
02:29:56.680 She's like,
02:29:57.040 these pictures are going to be
02:29:58.160 lit for MySpace.
02:29:59.940 Yo, man,
02:30:00.700 this is the beginning
02:30:01.480 of social media thottery
02:30:04.340 right here with Casey Anthony, man.
02:30:05.760 Y'all are witnessing it right here.
02:30:07.960 Just on May 24th, 2011,
02:30:10.380 the gist of the prosecution's argument
02:30:12.280 was that Casey suffocated
02:30:13.880 her daughter with duct tape
02:30:15.140 and then placed her in the trunk
02:30:16.540 for a few days
02:30:17.400 before disposing of her body
02:30:18.920 in the swamp.
02:30:19.840 The motive for the murder
02:30:20.940 was the primary focus
02:30:22.320 during their opening statement.
02:30:24.280 This isn't just a case
02:30:26.340 about Casey Marie Anthony.
02:30:30.200 It's a story about
02:30:31.560 Kaylee Anthony as well.
02:30:36.040 Kaylee Anthony was born
02:30:38.500 on August 9th of 2005.
02:30:42.620 It was a Tuesday.
02:30:45.280 And Kaylee lived nearly every day
02:30:48.400 of her life
02:30:49.940 on a quiet residential street
02:30:54.160 in Orlando
02:30:56.160 called Hope Spring Drive.
02:30:58.500 Casey Anthony,
02:31:00.320 Kaylee's mother,
02:31:02.260 appeared to all outward observers
02:31:05.300 to be what her parents
02:31:08.760 thought she was,
02:31:11.800 a loving mother
02:31:13.100 working hard
02:31:13.860 to provide support
02:31:14.800 for her daughter.
02:31:15.440 But as the evidence
02:31:17.060 in this case
02:31:18.000 and the investigation
02:31:19.120 into the background
02:31:20.600 of Casey Anthony
02:31:21.720 will show,
02:31:23.620 that was an illusion.
02:31:26.180 On Monday,
02:31:27.820 June 16th,
02:31:30.260 Cindy Anthony
02:31:31.200 goes to work,
02:31:33.780 as I've described,
02:31:36.220 sometime between 7 and 8 again.
02:31:38.460 and is out of the house
02:31:40.080 until 8 again.
02:31:42.260 George Anthony
02:31:43.140 specifically recalls
02:31:44.840 that at 12.50 p.m.
02:31:49.420 on June 16th of 2008,
02:31:53.800 his daughter,
02:31:54.800 PC,
02:31:55.720 left the residence
02:31:57.200 on Hope Spring Drive
02:31:58.820 with Kaylee Marie Anthony.
02:32:02.680 Kaylee
02:32:03.080 was wearing
02:32:04.460 a pink shirt,
02:32:07.300 jean shorts,
02:32:08.680 sunglasses,
02:32:09.880 and a backpack.
02:32:11.160 Which they found
02:32:12.260 the clothing
02:32:13.420 on the body,
02:32:14.680 well,
02:32:14.900 the bones
02:32:15.320 in this case,
02:32:16.480 because remember guys,
02:32:17.260 this is five months
02:32:18.060 after the fact,
02:32:18.720 so animals
02:32:19.240 and everything
02:32:19.640 had gotten to her
02:32:20.360 unfortunately.
02:32:21.480 But they were able
02:32:23.140 to find the clothes
02:32:24.120 and they were able
02:32:24.700 to link the clothes
02:32:25.440 back to the house
02:32:26.420 that Casey Anthony
02:32:27.060 lived in.
02:32:27.560 So there was no doubt
02:32:28.360 and the DNA,
02:32:29.060 everything else.
02:32:29.580 They were able
02:32:29.920 to positively identify
02:32:30.920 the bones
02:32:32.460 as from Kaylee Anthony.
02:32:37.400 And JoJo,
02:32:38.820 JoJo Anthony
02:32:41.360 kissed his granddaughter
02:32:43.760 goodbye
02:32:45.420 and never saw her again.
02:32:50.840 In fact,
02:32:57.100 no one
02:32:58.040 but Casey Anthony
02:33:00.580 ever
02:33:01.860 saw Kaylee Marie Anthony
02:33:04.520 alive again.
02:33:09.000 Look at her shaking her head.
02:33:10.720 No,
02:33:11.200 it wasn't me.
02:33:11.780 Nope.
02:33:14.600 The evidence
02:33:15.720 in this case
02:33:16.440 will establish
02:33:17.340 that there is
02:33:18.560 no other reason
02:33:20.420 for the placement
02:33:23.520 of multiple pieces
02:33:24.700 of duct tape
02:33:25.440 on this child's
02:33:26.580 face,
02:33:27.760 mouth,
02:33:28.280 and nose
02:33:29.020 other than
02:33:30.400 the specific intent
02:33:32.000 to end
02:33:32.680 that child's life.
02:33:34.380 No one
02:33:35.140 but Casey Anthony
02:33:36.520 had access
02:33:37.320 to all
02:33:38.300 the pieces
02:33:40.420 of evidence
02:33:41.980 in this case.
02:33:43.780 The duct tape,
02:33:44.800 the laundry bag,
02:33:45.840 the blanket,
02:33:46.640 the shorts,
02:33:47.560 the shirt,
02:33:48.620 the car.
02:33:49.300 Oh,
02:33:50.980 Riali
02:33:51.340 handed her.
02:33:51.760 She don't like it.
02:33:53.400 She don't like it.
02:33:54.440 Riali
02:33:54.780 hit her in her face
02:33:55.500 because the thing is
02:33:56.680 is that when they found
02:33:57.520 the body in the laundry bag,
02:33:59.420 right,
02:33:59.900 all the items
02:34:01.100 came from Casey Anthony's
02:34:03.200 house, guys.
02:34:04.320 That's how they were able
02:34:05.340 to effectively link
02:34:06.580 the body
02:34:07.680 of the child
02:34:08.580 to
02:34:09.580 back to the mother.
02:34:10.900 No one else
02:34:12.160 lied
02:34:12.860 to their friends,
02:34:13.980 to their family,
02:34:15.120 to investigators.
02:34:16.580 No one else
02:34:17.420 benefited
02:34:18.120 from the death
02:34:19.640 of Kaylee Marie Anthony.
02:34:21.780 Which we talked about
02:34:22.500 that, guys.
02:34:23.020 What is the motive?
02:34:23.720 The motive is
02:34:24.300 she wanted to be
02:34:26.220 for the streets.
02:34:28.460 She wanted to have fun.
02:34:29.380 She wanted to be on
02:34:29.880 MySpace,
02:34:30.580 you know,
02:34:30.920 living a vida loca,
02:34:32.280 all that crap.
02:34:33.280 She wanted to run around
02:34:34.020 with her boyfriend,
02:34:35.320 right,
02:34:35.800 Anthony,
02:34:36.240 the party promoter,
02:34:36.960 and live this life
02:34:37.820 because in her eyes,
02:34:39.040 oh,
02:34:39.760 I'm missing out.
02:34:41.100 Yeah,
02:34:41.260 and she never wanted a kid.
02:34:42.660 And she didn't want a kid
02:34:43.580 in the first place
02:34:44.160 as Angie told y'all
02:34:44.940 she wanted an abortion,
02:34:46.780 right,
02:34:47.100 or no,
02:34:47.680 I'm sorry,
02:34:47.940 she wanted to put the child
02:34:48.620 up for adoption.
02:34:49.580 And the parents were like,
02:34:50.880 no,
02:34:51.080 you must have the child.
02:34:53.120 We're taking care of this kid
02:34:54.340 and they took
02:34:55.060 and that explains actually
02:34:56.500 why the parents
02:34:57.640 were so invested
02:34:58.260 and crying so much
02:34:59.120 when their granddaughter
02:35:00.480 was missing
02:35:01.360 because they
02:35:02.580 invested a significant
02:35:04.460 amount of time
02:35:05.820 in taking care of the child
02:35:06.700 because the mom
02:35:07.420 didn't want to.
02:35:08.200 That's why
02:35:09.120 they were so invested.
02:35:10.220 They were the ones
02:35:10.780 that were basically
02:35:11.320 raising the granddaughter,
02:35:12.680 not the mom.
02:35:14.380 She wanted to be free
02:35:15.560 and be a 304.
02:35:19.620 Hayley's death
02:35:20.480 allowed Casey Anthony
02:35:21.840 to live in good life
02:35:24.380 at least
02:35:26.020 for those 31 days.
02:35:28.920 Although there was
02:35:29.780 a lack of direct
02:35:30.640 physical evidence.
02:35:31.420 Hey guys,
02:35:31.840 don't worry,
02:35:32.200 the YouTube stream
02:35:32.860 ended earlier
02:35:33.860 because like a
02:35:35.260 lame policy violation
02:35:36.600 because they thought like
02:35:37.340 anytime you stream
02:35:38.080 other content
02:35:38.660 that they think
02:35:39.160 might be copyrighted,
02:35:40.420 they'll go ahead
02:35:41.040 and hit you
02:35:41.840 with like a policy
02:35:42.580 violation or whatever
02:35:43.480 but then the stream
02:35:44.120 comes back
02:35:44.600 so don't worry about it.
02:35:46.180 I purposely like
02:35:47.280 didn't continue
02:35:47.840 the documentary
02:35:48.520 because I knew that
02:35:49.880 so we just gave
02:35:50.420 a little bit of commentary
02:35:51.120 or whatever.
02:35:51.580 It was maybe
02:35:51.900 a minute of content
02:35:53.100 that was missing
02:35:53.680 so don't worry.
02:35:56.020 We didn't really like
02:35:57.060 go into anything
02:35:57.740 too crazy
02:35:58.220 where you guys
02:35:58.620 would miss anything
02:35:59.140 so I knew it was coming.
02:36:00.680 That's why I've been
02:36:01.180 streaming on Twitch
02:36:01.740 the whole time
02:36:02.160 because I knew
02:36:02.480 they would probably
02:36:03.080 like shut it down
02:36:03.740 for a bit
02:36:04.200 and then bring it back up
02:36:05.360 so it is what it is.
02:36:06.580 Yeah, L Susan L YouTube
02:36:07.880 it is what it is, man
02:36:08.780 but I'm back.
02:36:10.000 I knew that we're
02:36:10.420 going to do that
02:36:10.900 so do me a favor
02:36:12.080 by the way guys
02:36:12.760 we got about 1600
02:36:13.500 you guys watching
02:36:14.180 on YouTube right now
02:36:14.900 and another I think
02:36:15.980 400 to 500
02:36:16.540 you guys on Twitch
02:36:17.260 come on over to YouTube
02:36:18.240 real quick guys
02:36:18.820 because I'm trying
02:36:19.260 to get us back up
02:36:19.920 on YouTube
02:36:20.260 because we're
02:36:20.640 on YouTube jail
02:36:21.120 for a week
02:36:21.640 so trying to hit
02:36:22.800 the algo
02:36:23.140 so if you guys
02:36:24.100 don't mind
02:36:24.400 if you guys
02:36:24.680 want to watch
02:36:25.020 on Twitch
02:36:25.280 that's cool
02:36:25.620 just open up
02:36:26.120 another tab
02:36:26.600 type in
02:36:26.960 youtube.com
02:36:27.520 slash
02:36:27.740 fed1811
02:36:28.340 and go ahead
02:36:30.840 and watch this stream
02:36:31.820 on YouTube
02:36:32.260 and on Twitch
02:36:32.860 and then just
02:36:33.260 mute the other tab
02:36:33.900 if you want
02:36:34.260 but the extra live
02:36:35.220 viewers on YouTube
02:36:35.940 would help a lot
02:36:36.600 with pushing the algo
02:36:37.520 because you guys
02:36:38.040 know when you get
02:36:38.480 banned for a week
02:36:39.040 they push you
02:36:39.540 to the bottom
02:36:39.940 of the algo
02:36:40.340 and it sucks
02:36:40.840 so but yeah
02:36:42.520 I'm hitting you guys
02:36:43.000 with a haymaker
02:36:44.180 on this one
02:36:44.580 y'all been asking
02:36:45.060 for Casey Anthony
02:36:45.700 for a while
02:36:46.220 so here we are
02:36:47.300 and I got Angie
02:36:49.360 now as well
02:36:49.900 shout out to her
02:36:50.500 because as y'all can see
02:36:53.980 she did quite a bit
02:36:54.860 of research for this case
02:36:55.800 I know you guys
02:36:56.740 complained when I
02:36:57.920 brought other girls
02:36:58.540 on that were very
02:36:59.440 stupid
02:37:00.220 so I brought
02:37:01.000 and he here
02:37:02.600 and he
02:37:03.120 what was it
02:37:03.980 Angelica
02:37:04.960 Angelica
02:37:05.840 I brought her
02:37:06.780 to help you guys
02:37:08.220 out here
02:37:08.580 because she actually
02:37:09.160 did do a significant
02:37:10.060 amount of research
02:37:10.700 and wrote down notes
02:37:11.460 etc
02:37:11.760 which is why
02:37:12.220 she's giving you guys
02:37:12.840 some of y'all
02:37:13.180 this sauce
02:37:14.660 her daughter's death
02:37:16.820 the evidence
02:37:17.560 the state actually
02:37:18.480 had still seemed
02:37:19.600 overwhelming
02:37:20.120 and they understandably
02:37:21.440 thought relying
02:37:22.160 on the facts alone
02:37:23.200 would easily secure
02:37:24.340 a conviction
02:37:24.900 the defense
02:37:25.800 on the other hand
02:37:26.640 were up against it
02:37:27.700 so not only
02:37:28.440 did they use charm
02:37:29.380 and appeal
02:37:29.840 to sway the juries
02:37:30.860 attention away
02:37:31.680 from the evidence
02:37:32.460 they dropped
02:37:33.100 an absolute bombshell
02:37:34.460 in their opening
02:37:35.140 statements
02:37:35.660 to create as much
02:37:36.700 doubt as humanly
02:37:37.700 possible
02:37:38.220 on behalf of the defense
02:37:39.480 okay so guys
02:37:40.260 I want to make this
02:37:40.780 extremely clear for y'all
02:37:41.640 the defense's job
02:37:43.340 is not to prove
02:37:44.360 that you're innocent
02:37:45.300 it's to prove
02:37:46.760 that you could be
02:37:47.920 innocent
02:37:48.400 okay
02:37:48.920 that's very important
02:37:50.580 I want you guys
02:37:51.260 the defense's job
02:37:55.760 is not to prove
02:37:57.200 that you're innocent
02:37:58.400 the defense's job
02:37:59.680 the defense's job
02:37:59.700 is to prove
02:38:00.240 that you might
02:38:01.120 be innocent
02:38:01.700 their job
02:38:02.840 is to distract
02:38:03.480 you from the
02:38:04.280 prosecution's evidence
02:38:05.160 their job
02:38:05.880 is to distract
02:38:06.440 you from the facts
02:38:07.460 their job
02:38:08.300 is to basically
02:38:09.180 take that
02:38:10.360 pure case
02:38:11.360 that the prosecution
02:38:11.960 is trying to make
02:38:12.740 and distill it
02:38:13.860 mess it up
02:38:14.660 make it look like
02:38:15.600 something else
02:38:16.120 is going on
02:38:16.840 and that there's
02:38:17.760 plausible deniability
02:38:18.780 that there could have
02:38:19.400 been another perpetrator
02:38:20.320 yeah
02:38:20.600 that is the defense's job
02:38:21.860 that lawyer deserves
02:38:22.700 a show
02:38:23.040 because he was a shark
02:38:24.720 he was a beast
02:38:25.540 yes
02:38:25.940 and that is what
02:38:27.180 this lawyer was
02:38:27.800 effectively able to do
02:38:29.040 he was able to
02:38:30.220 distract the jury
02:38:31.120 right
02:38:32.060 point the finger
02:38:33.000 at someone else
02:38:33.640 and say
02:38:33.940 yo
02:38:34.320 like
02:38:35.720 I know it looks
02:38:36.720 bad for my client
02:38:37.660 but
02:38:37.940 it could have been them
02:38:39.600 and then bam
02:38:40.440 that's all they got to do
02:38:41.380 reasonable doubt guys
02:38:42.880 is all
02:38:43.560 the defense
02:38:44.480 has to do
02:38:45.940 alright
02:38:46.740 so I want to make
02:38:47.680 that very clear
02:38:48.260 it's on
02:38:49.940 the prosecution
02:38:50.820 to prove
02:38:52.240 that the client
02:38:53.440 the defendant
02:38:54.420 is guilty
02:38:55.360 the defense
02:38:56.340 just has to defend
02:38:57.300 and prove
02:38:58.380 that the client
02:38:59.460 might not be guilty
02:39:00.920 so as you can see
02:39:02.120 the prosecution
02:39:02.980 is held to a way
02:39:03.900 higher standard
02:39:04.600 than the defenses
02:39:05.680 I want to thank you
02:39:09.960 for the sacrifice
02:39:10.740 that you've made
02:39:11.500 in your jury service
02:39:12.900 and coming here
02:39:13.600 and helping us
02:39:14.780 see justice
02:39:15.300 we know it's
02:39:17.080 no easy task
02:39:17.960 and we intend
02:39:19.720 I'm sure both sides
02:39:20.900 on getting you home
02:39:22.300 as quickly as possible
02:39:23.740 once you have
02:39:24.460 all of the information
02:39:25.300 that you need
02:39:25.980 everyone wants to know
02:39:27.020 what happened
02:39:27.420 how in the world
02:39:30.660 can a mother
02:39:32.340 sorry for the camera
02:39:33.240 quality guys
02:39:33.840 this is 2008
02:39:34.800 you know
02:39:35.540 it is what it is
02:39:36.220 right
02:39:36.420 I mean
02:39:36.840 Facebook was a thing
02:39:37.940 MySpace was a thing
02:39:38.840 people were using
02:39:39.440 freaking Razor cell phones
02:39:40.960 what was the cell phone
02:39:42.340 of the year
02:39:42.820 that year
02:39:43.260 what was that
02:39:43.640 the cell phone
02:39:44.820 of the year
02:39:45.220 that year
02:39:45.620 it was probably
02:39:46.600 a Razor
02:39:47.060 or a sidekick
02:39:47.780 you know
02:39:49.160 no
02:39:49.680 what are you doing
02:39:51.680 in 2008
02:39:52.240 I was in
02:39:53.580 school
02:39:54.520 like middle school
02:39:56.120 yeah
02:39:57.180 primary school
02:39:58.440 yeah
02:39:59.720 because you're 26
02:40:00.280 right
02:40:00.560 yeah
02:40:01.460 you old as hell bro
02:40:02.160 I was in high school
02:40:03.640 I was a senior
02:40:04.060 in high school
02:40:04.420 in 2008
02:40:04.960 wait 30 days
02:40:06.500 oh yeah
02:40:07.320 Blackberry was hot too
02:40:08.220 thank you
02:40:08.560 somebody said
02:40:09.000 Blackberry
02:40:09.460 yeah
02:40:09.680 and the iPhone
02:40:10.220 had just come out
02:40:10.980 in 2008
02:40:11.500 the iPhone
02:40:11.960 just came out
02:40:12.680 I remember
02:40:12.880 it was iPhone 3
02:40:13.560 came out in 2008
02:40:14.400 and then yeah
02:40:15.800 Blackberry
02:40:16.240 oh I had an iPhone 3
02:40:17.100 yeah
02:40:17.320 you had an iPhone 3
02:40:19.060 in Venezuela
02:40:19.440 yeah of course
02:40:20.540 how'd you have one
02:40:21.280 in Venezuela
02:40:21.700 what do you think
02:40:23.980 of Venezuela
02:40:24.400 you're scamming people
02:40:25.280 or what are you doing
02:40:25.940 bro
02:40:26.200 what are you doing
02:40:27.160 you're scamming people
02:40:28.180 yeah see you guys
02:40:30.240 yeah look at that
02:40:30.920 look at that
02:40:31.300 she was doing some stuff
02:40:32.860 she was robbing people
02:40:34.260 or something
02:40:34.900 iPhones are Venezuela
02:40:37.960 okay
02:40:38.500 what
02:40:39.300 it's insane
02:40:40.340 it's bizarre
02:40:42.120 something's just
02:40:44.080 not right about that
02:40:45.220 well the answer
02:40:47.440 is actually
02:40:48.440 relatively simple
02:40:49.380 she never was missing
02:40:51.760 Kaylee Anthony
02:40:53.780 died on June 16
02:40:55.120 2008
02:40:55.860 when she drowned
02:40:57.420 in her family's
02:40:58.100 swimming pool
02:40:58.640 bam
02:40:59.360 and there's their theory
02:41:00.320 the defense
02:41:01.380 says
02:41:02.440 the baby
02:41:04.080 drowned
02:41:04.680 in the pool
02:41:05.340 the reason
02:41:07.540 we're all here
02:41:08.260 is because
02:41:09.060 not of the
02:41:10.320 commonality
02:41:11.080 of this tragedy
02:41:12.540 but of the
02:41:13.780 uniqueness
02:41:14.240 of the family
02:41:15.640 that it happened to
02:41:16.440 you will hear
02:41:18.280 about
02:41:19.760 ugly things
02:41:21.460 secret things
02:41:23.860 things that people
02:41:25.780 don't speak about
02:41:26.640 things that Casey
02:41:28.800 never spoke about
02:41:30.620 on June 16
02:41:33.660 2008
02:41:34.660 after Kaylee
02:41:36.720 died
02:41:37.220 Casey did what
02:41:39.000 she's been doing
02:41:39.580 all her life
02:41:40.340 or for most of it
02:41:42.760 hiding her pain
02:41:43.980 going into that
02:41:46.120 dark corner
02:41:46.940 and pretending
02:41:49.660 that she
02:41:51.060 does not live
02:41:52.080 in the situation
02:41:53.300 that she's living
02:41:53.920 in
02:41:54.120 this family
02:41:55.180 must keep
02:41:56.640 its secrets
02:41:57.420 quiet
02:41:57.800 and it all began
02:42:00.140 when Casey
02:42:02.800 was 8 years old
02:42:03.780 and her father
02:42:04.500 came into her room
02:42:05.500 and began to touch
02:42:06.880 her inappropriately
02:42:07.720 this child
02:42:08.740 here we go
02:42:09.260 let's go ahead
02:42:10.400 and take away
02:42:12.460 from this trial
02:42:14.040 and divert it
02:42:15.380 and bring y'all
02:42:16.400 down
02:42:16.840 imagination
02:42:19.500 Casey was abused
02:42:21.860 by her father
02:42:22.620 she fell into the pool
02:42:24.860 like what does that
02:42:26.380 have to do
02:42:26.840 with anything
02:42:27.420 but okay
02:42:27.980 at 8 years old
02:42:30.320 learned to lie
02:42:31.120 immediately
02:42:31.620 she could be
02:42:32.480 13 years old
02:42:33.600 have her father's
02:42:34.600 penis in her mouth
02:42:35.460 and then go to school
02:42:36.660 and play with the other
02:42:37.620 kids as if nothing
02:42:38.820 ever happened
02:42:39.880 that will help
02:42:41.020 so they painted that
02:42:41.940 as an abuser
02:42:42.560 look at her
02:42:43.100 doing the acting
02:42:44.120 crying
02:42:44.820 oh look at me
02:42:45.780 oh my god
02:42:46.400 I'm the victim here
02:42:47.380 and that
02:42:48.320 that is why
02:42:49.860 the defense
02:42:51.120 says that she lies
02:42:52.440 so much
02:42:52.860 because her father
02:42:54.040 abused her
02:42:55.180 so she had to learn
02:42:56.680 how to lie
02:42:57.800 crazy bro
02:43:00.680 I hope you understand
02:43:03.780 why no one knew
02:43:05.720 that her child
02:43:06.840 was dead
02:43:07.340 the trial
02:43:09.700 would go on
02:43:10.360 to last six weeks
02:43:11.480 and notice how
02:43:12.400 that had nothing
02:43:13.040 to do
02:43:13.620 with the facts
02:43:14.940 at hand
02:43:15.360 or the case
02:43:16.140 let's say it's true
02:43:17.380 that her father
02:43:18.280 abused her
02:43:18.920 okay
02:43:19.340 let's say
02:43:20.180 it's true
02:43:20.820 that he was
02:43:21.580 a terrible
02:43:22.000 individual
02:43:22.820 etc
02:43:23.240 that still
02:43:24.540 does not justify
02:43:25.900 you lying to the police
02:43:27.600 purposely misleading them
02:43:29.140 not being able
02:43:30.020 to account for
02:43:30.540 where your daughter
02:43:31.000 was for a month
02:43:31.600 etc
02:43:32.000 but this is what
02:43:33.000 the defense does
02:43:33.840 theories
02:43:34.980 and imagination
02:43:37.100 right
02:43:38.680 they can go ahead
02:43:40.440 and get away
02:43:41.080 with theorizing things
02:43:42.540 with not facts
02:43:43.900 and just trying to
02:43:44.660 disprove the prosecution's
02:43:45.700 case
02:43:45.940 and coming up
02:43:46.920 with stories
02:43:48.260 like this
02:43:48.880 to sway the jury
02:43:50.720 in the opposite way
02:43:51.980 that has nothing
02:43:52.700 to do with the case
02:43:53.520 but they bring it up
02:43:54.920 in opening statements
02:43:55.840 to rationalize
02:43:57.320 and justify
02:43:58.340 Casey Anthony's
02:43:59.640 ridiculous lying
02:44:00.860 prosecution exposing
02:44:03.140 the truly dark
02:44:04.040 and deceptive
02:44:04.700 and also keep in mind
02:44:05.880 guys
02:44:06.540 she has
02:44:07.860 a vendetta
02:44:08.500 against her father
02:44:09.320 at this point
02:44:09.860 he testified
02:44:10.960 in grand jury
02:44:11.780 against her
02:44:12.560 okay
02:44:13.280 she found out
02:44:15.920 from the detective
02:44:16.560 that her father
02:44:17.700 testified
02:44:18.520 in grand jury
02:44:19.860 which led to her
02:44:20.720 indictment
02:44:21.280 for murder
02:44:22.120 one
02:44:22.800 so of course
02:44:23.840 she's going to be
02:44:24.840 angry
02:44:25.200 and potentially
02:44:26.160 come up
02:44:26.600 with a ridiculous
02:44:27.540 story
02:44:28.120 of her abusing
02:44:29.240 her as a child
02:44:30.380 which is why
02:44:31.520 she lied
02:44:33.100 holy man
02:44:34.560 boom
02:44:35.120 bucket
02:44:35.480 nature of Casey's
02:44:38.640 character
02:44:39.100 while the state
02:44:40.020 relied on fact
02:44:40.960 the defense clung
02:44:41.980 on to theory
02:44:42.680 and proposed
02:44:43.420 every conspiracy
02:44:44.360 under the sun
02:44:45.220 in the hope
02:44:45.780 they would create
02:44:46.460 enough skepticism
02:44:47.360 and confusion
02:44:48.080 one of the more
02:44:48.940 noted details
02:44:49.760 of the trial
02:44:50.480 was the courtroom
02:44:51.360 presence of
02:44:52.060 Jose Baez
02:44:52.980 he had an
02:44:53.720 exceptional ability
02:44:54.700 of narrative
02:44:55.280 control and
02:44:56.060 storytelling
02:44:56.620 and his capacity
02:44:57.700 to create a
02:44:58.440 connection with
02:44:59.060 the jury
02:44:59.500 seemed far more
02:45:00.440 adequate than
02:45:01.140 that of the state
02:45:01.920 this was
02:45:02.540 yeah my man
02:45:03.120 is Charles Dickens
02:45:04.380 he's a great
02:45:06.140 fictional writer
02:45:06.940 he was a beast
02:45:07.720 I just want to
02:45:08.520 state that
02:45:09.080 the parents
02:45:09.660 of the
02:45:10.120 of Casey
02:45:10.760 weren't allowed
02:45:11.880 to show
02:45:12.320 any emotion
02:45:13.460 at the
02:45:14.700 court
02:45:15.360 oh they weren't
02:45:16.580 no
02:45:16.820 why not
02:45:17.440 because they
02:45:17.940 would kick
02:45:18.340 them out
02:45:18.780 they would
02:45:19.640 like engage
02:45:20.900 the case
02:45:21.500 or something
02:45:21.840 ah so the
02:45:22.880 parents weren't
02:45:23.260 allowed to show
02:45:23.720 emotion
02:45:24.020 they had to
02:45:24.420 stay stowing
02:45:24.900 so when the
02:45:25.800 parent
02:45:26.100 I mean
02:45:26.560 her dad
02:45:27.200 he found
02:45:29.120 out that
02:45:29.540 she was
02:45:29.860 blaming him
02:45:30.700 at court
02:45:31.860 ah yeah
02:45:32.940 so he had
02:45:33.560 to stay
02:45:33.860 still
02:45:34.220 yeah
02:45:34.640 and I think
02:45:35.920 the reason
02:45:36.240 why guys
02:45:36.700 is because
02:45:37.020 there were
02:45:37.280 witnesses
02:45:37.600 in the
02:45:37.880 case
02:45:38.180 so since
02:45:39.020 there were
02:45:39.240 witnesses
02:45:39.520 in the
02:45:39.760 case
02:45:39.960 that's
02:45:40.400 why
02:45:40.560 yeah
02:45:41.760 they probably
02:45:42.620 didn't want
02:45:43.080 them to show
02:45:43.400 any emotion
02:45:43.760 because that
02:45:44.260 would make
02:45:44.680 the jury
02:45:45.020 think something
02:45:45.620 yeah
02:45:46.000 so
02:45:46.500 interesting
02:45:47.540 recognized
02:45:49.000 and mentioned
02:45:49.740 multiple times
02:45:50.600 in the media
02:45:51.200 yet the
02:45:51.740 overwhelming
02:45:52.220 majority
02:45:52.740 of those
02:45:53.220 following the
02:45:53.880 case
02:45:54.280 were almost
02:45:54.880 certain
02:45:55.200 that it
02:45:55.540 wouldn't be
02:45:55.900 enough to
02:45:56.340 save the
02:45:56.700 defendant
02:45:57.080 closing
02:45:57.740 arguments
02:45:58.220 were put
02:45:58.660 forward
02:45:59.020 on Sunday
02:45:59.640 the 3rd
02:46:00.100 of July
02:46:00.600 and just
02:46:01.180 so you guys
02:46:01.540 know
02:46:01.780 the most
02:46:02.240 important
02:46:02.600 arguments
02:46:03.040 a lot
02:46:03.240 of times
02:46:03.580 are opening
02:46:04.180 arguments
02:46:04.660 and closing
02:46:05.220 arguments
02:46:05.720 and how
02:46:06.720 you open
02:46:07.260 and end
02:46:07.740 the trial
02:46:08.140 is typically
02:46:08.640 what stays
02:46:09.120 with the
02:46:09.400 jury
02:46:09.640 when you
02:46:10.960 have a
02:46:11.340 child
02:46:11.800 that
02:46:13.360 child
02:46:14.140 becomes
02:46:15.360 your
02:46:16.280 life
02:46:17.120 this case
02:46:18.820 is about
02:46:19.360 the clash
02:46:20.140 between
02:46:20.980 that
02:46:21.880 responsibility
02:46:23.260 and the
02:46:23.960 expectations
02:46:24.740 that go
02:46:25.260 with it
02:46:25.740 and the
02:46:27.700 life
02:46:28.040 that Casey
02:46:28.840 Anthony
02:46:29.320 wanted to
02:46:30.440 have
02:46:30.720 Casey
02:46:31.680 meets
02:46:32.000 Tony
02:46:32.400 Tony
02:46:34.720 has
02:46:35.420 this
02:46:35.800 life
02:46:36.320 he's
02:46:38.160 free
02:46:38.740 he's a
02:46:40.300 club
02:46:40.720 promoter
02:46:41.360 he's out
02:46:43.940 there at
02:46:44.340 club
02:46:44.780 promoter
02:46:45.460 yeah
02:46:46.920 imagine
02:46:47.300 killing
02:46:47.640 an aspiring
02:46:49.360 dj
02:46:49.620 imagine
02:46:50.140 killing
02:46:50.460 your baby
02:46:51.000 a beautiful
02:46:52.120 three-year-old
02:46:52.640 girl
02:46:52.920 for a club
02:46:54.000 promoter
02:46:54.400 and aspiring
02:46:54.980 dj
02:46:55.460 holy
02:46:56.380 this is called
02:46:58.420 Philly side
02:46:58.880 guys
02:46:59.260 Philly side
02:47:00.140 and she did this
02:47:01.500 to have like
02:47:02.460 an idolized
02:47:03.260 life
02:47:03.700 yep
02:47:04.080 so she can go
02:47:04.780 ahead and
02:47:05.240 she belongs to
02:47:05.980 the streets
02:47:06.480 with the loud
02:47:07.820 music and dancing
02:47:08.840 and it's a
02:47:09.580 great
02:47:10.000 free
02:47:10.980 life
02:47:11.760 so she has
02:47:13.160 a choice
02:47:13.600 a life
02:47:16.600 tethered
02:47:17.920 to a child
02:47:19.580 or a life
02:47:21.740 free
02:47:22.480 to be
02:47:23.240 22
02:47:24.640 and as hard
02:47:25.880 as it is
02:47:26.760 for anyone
02:47:28.020 to imagine
02:47:29.300 she
02:47:31.520 had
02:47:32.360 to choose
02:47:33.520 between two
02:47:34.300 sacrificing two
02:47:35.560 things
02:47:36.020 the first
02:47:37.980 was her dreams
02:47:38.940 and the life
02:47:39.420 she wanted
02:47:39.920 and the second
02:47:41.760 was her
02:47:43.060 child
02:47:43.380 and we
02:47:46.140 submit to you
02:47:46.720 the evidence
02:47:47.240 in this case
02:47:48.100 shows
02:47:48.700 that the choice
02:47:51.700 she made
02:47:52.240 was her
02:47:53.920 child
02:47:54.280 here we are
02:47:56.840 at the end
02:47:57.880 of our journey
02:47:58.480 this guy
02:48:00.480 gave a really
02:48:01.480 good closing
02:48:02.180 argument guys
02:48:02.740 I want you to
02:48:03.180 pay attention
02:48:03.580 to what he
02:48:03.940 does here
02:48:04.400 and
02:48:05.700 I have to
02:48:07.240 tell you
02:48:07.620 that I
02:48:07.940 probably think
02:48:08.840 you have more
02:48:09.380 questions than
02:48:10.160 you have answers
02:48:10.860 and
02:48:12.860 if you
02:48:13.760 recall
02:48:14.280 at opening
02:48:15.780 statements
02:48:16.340 the first
02:48:16.880 the final
02:48:17.640 thing that I
02:48:18.180 told you
02:48:18.740 at the end
02:48:20.180 of the day
02:48:20.680 when everything
02:48:21.440 is said and
02:48:22.020 done
02:48:22.260 the one
02:48:23.640 question
02:48:24.240 will never
02:48:24.860 be answered
02:48:25.440 the key
02:48:26.160 question
02:48:26.720 in this
02:48:27.680 case
02:48:28.080 will never
02:48:29.540 be answered
02:48:30.160 it can never
02:48:32.160 be proven
02:48:32.720 and that is
02:48:35.000 how did
02:48:35.940 Kaylee die
02:48:36.700 I'm going
02:48:37.280 to start
02:48:37.560 with my
02:48:37.880 biggest
02:48:38.120 fear
02:48:38.420 and that's
02:48:39.860 in his
02:48:40.100 favor
02:48:40.400 because
02:48:40.840 the
02:48:41.440 prosecution
02:48:42.040 right
02:48:42.740 wasn't able
02:48:43.520 to conclusively
02:48:44.360 have a
02:48:44.760 smoking gun
02:48:45.460 they had a
02:48:46.260 bunch of
02:48:46.540 great
02:48:46.740 circumstantial
02:48:47.460 evidence
02:48:47.820 right motive
02:48:48.440 etc but
02:48:49.560 they didn't
02:48:50.080 have the
02:48:50.480 smoking gun
02:48:51.120 and that's
02:48:51.940 where the
02:48:52.180 defense
02:48:52.500 could come
02:48:52.860 in and be
02:48:53.120 like whoa
02:48:53.500 well they
02:48:54.460 didn't prove
02:48:54.800 it all the
02:48:55.100 way we
02:48:56.020 don't know
02:48:56.360 100%
02:48:56.960 we know
02:48:57.540 like 95%
02:48:58.540 but we
02:48:58.840 don't know
02:48:59.120 100%
02:48:59.860 we're missing
02:49:00.600 the 5%
02:49:01.280 we're missing
02:49:01.660 that 5%
02:49:02.440 trial jury
02:49:03.480 okay
02:49:04.240 remember
02:49:05.140 that 5%
02:49:06.260 this is a
02:49:07.220 woman she's
02:49:07.680 gonna go
02:49:08.060 ahead to
02:49:08.420 jail for
02:49:08.760 life
02:49:09.160 her life
02:49:10.520 is gonna
02:49:10.780 be on
02:49:11.080 your hands
02:49:11.660 I'm gonna
02:49:13.700 tell you
02:49:14.180 right up
02:49:14.620 front
02:49:14.920 what I
02:49:16.300 fear
02:49:16.760 may happen
02:49:18.340 in this
02:49:18.780 case
02:49:19.180 and I
02:49:20.180 want to
02:49:20.420 talk to
02:49:20.820 you about
02:49:21.140 it
02:49:21.340 and explain
02:49:22.060 why I
02:49:23.080 feel that
02:49:23.420 way
02:49:23.640 this case
02:49:24.580 deals with
02:49:25.160 so much
02:49:25.560 emotion
02:49:25.960 I know
02:49:27.760 that there
02:49:28.080 were times
02:49:28.760 where every
02:49:29.640 single person
02:49:30.340 in here
02:49:30.880 felt something
02:49:32.500 deep down
02:49:32.960 inside
02:49:33.380 your rules
02:49:34.580 of deliberation
02:49:35.420 what the
02:49:36.600 law is
02:49:37.200 is that
02:49:38.100 this case
02:49:38.660 must not
02:49:39.100 be decided
02:49:39.760 for or
02:49:40.560 against
02:49:40.860 anyone
02:49:41.300 because you
02:49:42.560 feel sorry
02:49:43.060 for anyone
02:49:43.620 or are
02:49:45.060 angry at
02:49:45.680 anyone
02:49:46.000 you'll notice
02:49:46.920 that Mr. Baez
02:49:48.020 locks the jury's
02:49:49.080 focus on this
02:49:50.080 while subtly
02:49:50.900 concealing this
02:49:52.080 he presents
02:49:56.760 the argument
02:49:57.340 that the
02:49:57.700 prosecution
02:49:58.260 has purposely
02:49:59.040 got the jury
02:49:59.740 emotionally
02:50:00.320 invested in
02:50:00.980 the case
02:50:01.500 in the hope
02:50:02.080 it would
02:50:02.320 push them
02:50:02.800 towards a
02:50:03.280 guilty verdict
02:50:04.020 yet in
02:50:04.640 this exact
02:50:05.140 same
02:50:05.460 statement
02:50:05.920 he himself
02:50:07.020 is getting
02:50:07.680 them emotionally
02:50:08.380 invested
02:50:08.900 for the exact
02:50:09.680 opposite reason
02:50:10.580 while refuting
02:50:11.620 the prosecution's
02:50:12.760 supposed attempt
02:50:13.540 to entice
02:50:14.120 anger
02:50:14.520 he subtly
02:50:15.300 attempts to
02:50:15.920 evoke empathy
02:50:16.640 say what you
02:50:17.620 want about
02:50:18.080 this attorney
02:50:18.700 and the ethics
02:50:19.320 of his conduct
02:50:20.120 but what you
02:50:20.760 are about
02:50:21.180 to witness
02:50:21.600 and what many
02:50:27.320 believe to be
02:50:27.960 what saved
02:50:28.480 Casey Anthony's
02:50:29.400 life
02:50:29.820 and that's
02:50:31.320 because
02:50:31.880 obviously
02:50:32.780 we want
02:50:33.620 you to
02:50:33.920 base your
02:50:34.440 verdict
02:50:34.880 on the
02:50:35.900 evidence
02:50:36.360 not on
02:50:37.620 emotion
02:50:38.020 and it's
02:50:39.440 my biggest
02:50:39.880 fear
02:50:40.300 because it's
02:50:41.200 such a
02:50:41.520 difficult
02:50:41.800 thing
02:50:42.260 for you
02:50:42.920 to push
02:50:43.240 aside
02:50:43.700 Kaylee Anthony
02:50:45.680 was a
02:50:46.280 beautiful
02:50:46.720 sweet
02:50:47.580 innocent
02:50:48.260 child
02:50:48.820 who died
02:50:49.740 far too
02:50:50.260 soon
02:50:50.520 there's no
02:50:52.080 doubt about
02:50:52.620 it
02:50:52.860 and that is
02:50:53.500 not disputed
02:50:54.460 by anyone
02:50:55.160 but to parade
02:50:57.240 her up here
02:50:58.140 to invoke
02:50:59.200 your emotion
02:50:59.880 would be
02:51:01.440 improper
02:51:01.920 it's improper
02:51:03.520 under the law
02:51:04.440 and it's
02:51:06.040 improper as to
02:51:06.880 the rules
02:51:07.240 of your
02:51:07.500 deliberation
02:51:08.260 he went on
02:51:09.440 for a great
02:51:10.340 length of
02:51:10.740 time
02:51:11.200 talking about
02:51:12.740 this beautiful
02:51:14.200 child
02:51:14.680 not on his
02:51:16.380 evidence
02:51:16.860 not on the
02:51:18.100 evidence that
02:51:18.640 was presented
02:51:19.180 before you
02:51:19.920 it was to
02:51:20.980 set up
02:51:21.600 the emotion
02:51:22.240 for what
02:51:23.260 was to
02:51:23.620 come
02:51:23.920 which is
02:51:25.140 exactly what
02:51:25.680 he's doing
02:51:26.100 now but in
02:51:26.600 the opposite
02:51:26.960 direction which
02:51:27.580 is very
02:51:27.840 interesting
02:51:28.220 so he's
02:51:29.120 trying to
02:51:29.440 say that
02:51:30.340 the prosecution's
02:51:31.080 case was
02:51:31.580 based all
02:51:32.160 on emotion
02:51:32.720 outrage
02:51:33.280 trying to
02:51:33.640 get you
02:51:33.920 out to
02:51:34.160 convict her
02:51:34.600 because she's
02:51:35.080 a terrible
02:51:35.460 mom
02:51:35.840 and that is
02:51:37.500 exactly how
02:51:38.340 this case
02:51:38.780 was presented
02:51:39.380 you they
02:51:40.960 didn't come
02:51:41.340 right out
02:51:41.740 the gate
02:51:42.220 and show
02:51:43.040 you the
02:51:44.680 evidence
02:51:45.180 they gave
02:51:46.140 you two
02:51:46.620 weeks of
02:51:47.140 testimony
02:51:47.600 that was
02:51:48.440 completely
02:51:48.900 irrelevant
02:51:49.540 and served
02:51:50.120 only one
02:51:50.580 purpose
02:51:50.980 and that
02:51:52.140 was to
02:51:52.480 paint Casey
02:51:53.100 Anthony
02:51:53.480 as a
02:51:54.580 slut
02:51:54.920 as a
02:51:56.360 party girl
02:51:57.020 as a
02:51:58.000 girl who
02:51:58.460 lies
02:51:59.100 and has
02:52:00.240 wait that's
02:52:00.620 all true
02:52:00.940 though
02:52:01.300 absolutely
02:52:05.000 nothing to
02:52:06.100 do with
02:52:06.700 how
02:52:07.080 Kaylee
02:52:07.540 died
02:52:07.980 and this
02:52:08.780 prosecution
02:52:09.300 was geared
02:52:10.300 in such
02:52:11.620 a manner
02:52:12.060 that it
02:52:12.840 was deliberate
02:52:13.960 it was
02:52:15.200 methodical
02:52:15.860 it was
02:52:16.780 thorough
02:52:17.180 and it
02:52:17.960 was detailed
02:52:18.680 Mr. Baez
02:52:20.080 then focuses
02:52:20.820 on the fact
02:52:21.440 that the
02:52:21.780 state has
02:52:22.260 the burden
02:52:22.660 of proof
02:52:23.280 and thereafter
02:52:24.040 continues to
02:52:24.840 intertwine the
02:52:25.500 two essential
02:52:26.100 features of
02:52:26.780 his argument
02:52:27.300 empathy
02:52:27.940 and doubt
02:52:28.800 don't speculate
02:52:29.820 don't guess
02:52:31.320 it has to be
02:52:33.040 proven to you
02:52:33.860 beyond and to
02:52:34.640 the exclusion
02:52:35.220 of every
02:52:35.720 reasonable doubt
02:52:36.540 if you
02:52:37.440 don't know
02:52:37.960 what happened
02:52:38.580 it wasn't
02:52:40.920 proven
02:52:41.240 we don't
02:52:42.860 want you to
02:52:43.400 tell us
02:52:43.920 what you
02:52:44.200 think
02:52:44.600 happened
02:52:45.080 we want
02:52:46.380 you to
02:52:46.620 tell us
02:52:47.020 what was
02:52:47.640 proven
02:52:48.180 happened
02:52:48.880 and that
02:52:50.080 is what
02:52:50.400 the big
02:52:50.760 that see
02:52:51.600 that is
02:52:52.380 a great
02:52:53.260 comment
02:52:53.760 because
02:52:54.260 hey
02:52:55.480 what did
02:52:56.640 the government
02:52:57.080 actually prove
02:52:58.160 in this
02:52:58.540 case
02:52:58.940 it's not
02:52:59.900 what you
02:53:00.140 think
02:53:00.560 it's a
02:53:01.200 what was
02:53:01.580 proven
02:53:02.040 and the
02:53:02.740 evidence
02:53:03.080 guys
02:53:03.460 even though
02:53:04.040 it was
02:53:04.420 solid
02:53:04.900 circumstantial
02:53:05.600 evidence
02:53:05.980 they didn't
02:53:07.300 have that
02:53:08.180 smoking gun
02:53:09.240 they didn't
02:53:10.300 you know
02:53:11.160 the smell
02:53:12.760 from the car
02:53:13.420 eh
02:53:14.140 a cadaver dog
02:53:15.180 was able to
02:53:15.720 identify it
02:53:16.380 as human
02:53:16.700 remains
02:53:17.060 but they
02:53:17.360 didn't find
02:53:18.040 Casey Anthony's
02:53:19.000 DNA
02:53:19.240 in the car
02:53:20.360 the masking
02:53:21.260 tape
02:53:21.600 there was
02:53:22.220 dispute
02:53:22.620 on
02:53:23.100 between
02:53:24.100 professionals
02:53:24.640 whether
02:53:24.940 the tape
02:53:25.600 was on
02:53:26.000 the face
02:53:26.480 during
02:53:27.740 when she
02:53:28.360 was still
02:53:28.660 alive
02:53:28.960 or not
02:53:29.440 so
02:53:29.900 there
02:53:30.420 was
02:53:30.600 holes
02:53:31.240 right
02:53:31.840 in the
02:53:32.280 prosecution's
02:53:32.860 case
02:53:33.080 even though
02:53:33.440 minor
02:53:33.760 but that's
02:53:34.580 all the
02:53:35.020 defense had
02:53:35.520 to do
02:53:35.760 was exploit
02:53:36.260 these small
02:53:37.060 holes
02:53:37.360 and create
02:53:38.340 a little bit
02:53:38.840 of doubt
02:53:39.140 and that's
02:53:40.140 the difference
02:53:40.540 here
02:53:40.780 because you
02:53:42.020 know what
02:53:42.340 we can go
02:53:42.900 on and
02:53:43.320 speculate
02:53:43.780 all day
02:53:45.100 long
02:53:45.520 as to the
02:53:46.440 different
02:53:46.720 theories that
02:53:47.340 were posed
02:53:47.740 before you
02:53:48.340 as to the
02:53:49.060 different
02:53:49.320 possibilities
02:53:50.200 but the
02:53:52.940 truth of the
02:53:53.380 matter is
02:53:54.040 is it
02:53:54.560 must be
02:53:55.000 what was
02:53:55.420 proven
02:53:55.940 what you
02:53:57.700 know versus
02:53:58.160 what you
02:53:58.520 could prove
02:53:58.900 are two
02:53:59.200 different
02:53:59.460 things and
02:53:59.860 he is
02:54:00.140 correct
02:54:00.460 here
02:54:00.740 which is
02:54:01.700 terrible
02:54:02.500 you know
02:54:02.880 what I
02:54:03.000 mean
02:54:03.100 because we
02:54:03.580 all know
02:54:04.080 that Casey
02:54:04.860 Anthony
02:54:05.160 is a stupid
02:54:06.060 304 that
02:54:07.120 killed her
02:54:07.480 daughter so
02:54:08.120 she can go
02:54:08.560 ahead and
02:54:09.340 post on
02:54:10.160 myspace and
02:54:10.800 be a you
02:54:11.420 know an
02:54:11.680 early IG
02:54:12.220 thought but
02:54:13.560 did the
02:54:14.580 prosecution
02:54:15.000 prove that
02:54:16.340 she callously
02:54:17.020 killed her
02:54:17.500 daughter so
02:54:18.400 she can go
02:54:18.980 ahead and
02:54:19.720 be a 304
02:54:20.580 that is the
02:54:23.540 differences my
02:54:24.040 friend
02:54:24.320 no mysteries
02:54:26.180 to solve
02:54:26.780 here
02:54:27.060 there should
02:54:28.640 be no
02:54:29.040 mystery before
02:54:29.800 you right
02:54:30.240 now if
02:54:31.880 you have
02:54:32.300 questions then
02:54:33.740 it was not
02:54:34.420 proven and
02:54:36.080 that's as
02:54:36.500 simple as it
02:54:37.040 goes now
02:54:38.160 back to what I
02:54:40.660 was saying with
02:54:41.480 their initial
02:54:42.500 setup the way
02:54:44.060 the case was
02:54:44.640 presented the
02:54:45.260 first couple
02:54:45.680 weeks you see
02:54:47.140 the strategy
02:54:47.760 behind that is
02:54:48.780 is if you
02:54:49.640 hate her if
02:54:50.800 you think she's
02:54:51.420 a lying no
02:54:52.200 good slut
02:54:53.020 then you'll
02:54:54.580 start to look
02:54:55.220 at this
02:54:55.520 evidence in
02:54:56.020 a different
02:54:56.320 light you'll
02:54:57.540 start to oh
02:54:58.760 wait a minute
02:54:59.200 maybe I'm
02:55:01.360 seeing something
02:55:01.920 that's not
02:55:02.380 there and
02:55:03.760 start to
02:55:04.240 actually
02:55:04.580 discriminate
02:55:05.160 against her
02:55:05.920 rather than
02:55:06.460 give her the
02:55:07.520 standard that
02:55:08.100 is afforded to
02:55:08.780 each and every
02:55:09.500 citizen in our
02:55:10.260 country and
02:55:11.580 that is that
02:55:12.040 the state that
02:55:13.080 the government
02:55:13.480 come in here
02:55:14.060 and prove their
02:55:14.840 case beyond
02:55:15.740 and to the
02:55:16.260 exclusion of
02:55:16.940 every reasonable
02:55:17.640 doubt but you
02:55:18.900 can get away
02:55:19.360 with that if
02:55:21.000 we can get a
02:55:21.560 jury to hate
02:55:22.240 her but
02:55:23.420 you're here
02:55:24.020 to fulfill
02:55:24.940 an oath
02:55:25.400 you've labored
02:55:29.140 tremendously over
02:55:30.540 this journey
02:55:31.180 and we're going
02:55:33.580 to ask you to
02:55:35.020 render a verdict
02:55:35.700 of not guilty
02:55:36.560 on these charges
02:55:39.260 because they
02:55:40.040 simply were
02:55:41.300 not proven
02:55:41.960 and that's what
02:55:43.200 he's standing
02:55:43.560 on they were
02:55:44.460 not proven
02:55:45.100 and they're
02:55:46.760 simply not
02:55:47.340 true
02:55:47.700 for the ninth
02:55:50.060 judicial circuit
02:55:50.900 here we go
02:55:52.100 orange county
02:55:53.020 florida
02:55:53.540 state of
02:55:54.500 florida
02:55:54.860 versus casey
02:55:55.820 marie anthony
02:55:56.720 as to case
02:55:57.920 number 2008
02:55:58.940 cf 15606-0
02:56:02.280 as to the
02:56:03.860 charge of
02:56:04.300 first degree
02:56:04.760 murder
02:56:05.180 verdict as
02:56:06.680 to count
02:56:07.000 one
02:56:07.360 we the jury
02:56:08.400 find the
02:56:08.820 defendant not
02:56:09.460 guilty
02:56:09.860 so say we
02:56:10.680 all
02:56:10.980 dated at
02:56:11.580 orlando
02:56:12.160 orange county
02:56:13.160 florida
02:56:13.660 on this
02:56:14.400 fifth day
02:56:14.860 of july
02:56:15.400 2011
02:56:16.300 signed
02:56:17.000 for person
02:56:17.740 as to the
02:56:19.340 charge of
02:56:19.760 aggravated
02:56:20.240 manslaughter
02:56:21.240 of a child
02:56:21.580 verdict as to
02:56:21.840 count three
02:56:22.400 we the jury
02:56:23.600 find the
02:56:24.000 defendant not
02:56:24.620 guilty
02:56:25.000 so say we
02:56:25.940 all
02:56:26.260 dated at
02:56:26.940 orlando
02:56:27.500 orange county
02:56:28.260 florida
02:56:28.760 this fifth
02:56:29.560 day of
02:56:29.940 july
02:56:30.380 2011
02:56:31.340 signed
02:56:31.960 for person
02:56:32.700 damn
02:56:33.960 bro
02:56:34.640 as to
02:56:39.880 the charge
02:56:40.320 of aggravated
02:56:41.080 manslaughter
02:56:41.660 of a child
02:56:42.480 verdict is to
02:56:43.620 count three
02:56:44.220 we the jury
02:56:45.200 find the
02:56:45.580 defendant
02:56:45.860 not guilty
02:56:46.620 so say we
02:56:47.900 all dated
02:56:48.680 at orlando
02:56:49.400 orange county
02:56:50.520 florida
02:56:50.900 this fifth
02:56:51.480 day of
02:56:51.780 july
02:56:52.200 2011
02:56:53.060 signed
02:56:53.680 for person
02:56:54.360 and juror
02:56:55.200 number 12
02:56:55.860 for these
02:56:56.380 your turn
02:56:56.840 correct
02:56:57.160 verdicts
02:56:57.680 yes
02:56:57.940 thank you
02:56:59.100 okay
02:56:59.960 well uh
02:57:01.600 counsel
02:57:02.260 she literally
02:57:03.040 avoided
02:57:03.660 the death
02:57:04.480 penalty
02:57:04.820 this dude
02:57:05.360 saved
02:57:05.960 her
02:57:06.500 life
02:57:07.160 guys
02:57:07.580 and the
02:57:09.960 defendant
02:57:10.320 approached
02:57:10.800 the podium
02:57:11.300 well i hope
02:57:12.760 that this
02:57:14.060 is
02:57:14.280 this is
02:57:15.060 this is
02:57:15.320 going to be
02:57:15.540 the greatest
02:57:16.100 gloats i've
02:57:16.860 ever seen
02:57:17.180 in my life
02:57:17.600 by this
02:57:17.960 fucking guy
02:57:18.500 to those
02:57:20.040 of you
02:57:20.440 having indulged
02:57:21.680 in media
02:57:22.720 assassination
02:57:23.380 for three
02:57:24.180 years
02:57:24.620 bias
02:57:25.940 and prejudice
02:57:26.600 and incompetent
02:57:28.520 talking heads
02:57:29.580 saying what
02:57:30.360 would be
02:57:30.900 and how
02:57:31.260 to be
02:57:31.700 uh
02:57:32.680 i'm disgusted
02:57:33.820 by some of
02:57:34.360 the lawyers
02:57:34.780 that have
02:57:35.060 done this
02:57:35.620 and uh
02:57:37.120 i can tell
02:57:37.900 you that my
02:57:38.620 colleagues from
02:57:39.440 coast to coast
02:57:40.200 and border to
02:57:40.820 border
02:57:41.120 have condemned
02:57:42.420 this whole
02:57:42.960 process
02:57:43.580 of lawyers
02:57:44.620 getting on
02:57:45.100 television
02:57:45.580 and talking
02:57:46.080 about cases
02:57:46.840 that they
02:57:47.220 don't know
02:57:47.600 a damn
02:57:48.040 thing about
02:57:48.680 and don't
02:57:49.700 have the
02:57:50.080 experience
02:57:50.660 to back up
02:57:51.300 their words
02:57:51.840 or the
02:57:52.380 law to
02:57:52.800 do it
02:57:53.120 now you've
02:57:54.060 learned a
02:57:54.420 lesson
02:57:54.700 and we
02:57:55.500 appreciate
02:57:56.020 the jury
02:57:56.520 those of
02:57:57.120 you that
02:57:57.460 have been
02:57:57.880 objective
02:57:58.580 and professional
02:57:59.280 we like it
02:58:00.420 others
02:58:00.920 we're gonna
02:58:01.740 be talking
02:58:02.140 to again
02:58:02.720 this guy
02:58:04.900 bro
02:58:05.340 like he
02:58:06.160 could hold
02:58:06.540 himself back
02:58:07.160 i told
02:58:08.160 you
02:58:08.600 i told
02:58:10.280 you
02:58:10.480 we're gonna
02:58:10.980 get her
02:58:11.380 off
02:58:11.660 you know
02:58:13.220 he was over
02:58:13.760 here flexing
02:58:14.380 he wasn't even
02:58:14.860 the lead
02:58:15.360 he was the
02:58:15.940 co-chair
02:58:16.480 he wasn't even
02:58:17.080 the lead
02:58:17.440 attorney
02:58:17.860 oh my god
02:58:20.580 bro
02:58:21.080 oh man
02:58:23.240 he had to flex
02:58:24.460 though
02:58:24.700 he had to do it
02:58:25.660 i told y'all
02:58:26.900 she was innocent
02:58:27.780 i told y'all
02:58:29.780 thank you very much
02:58:31.040 casey did not murder
02:58:32.460 kaylee
02:58:33.000 it's that simple
02:58:34.560 and
02:58:36.820 you don't even
02:58:38.740 believe that
02:58:39.180 come on
02:58:39.720 they
02:58:40.200 our system
02:58:41.880 of justice
02:58:42.620 has not
02:58:44.160 dishonored
02:58:44.660 her memory
02:58:45.220 by
02:58:46.880 a false
02:58:48.820 conviction
02:58:49.400 hilarious
02:58:52.620 man
02:58:53.020 crazy stuff
02:58:53.640 guys
02:58:53.900 crazy crazy
02:58:54.480 stuff
02:58:54.820 so
02:58:55.520 that concludes
02:58:57.440 that documentary
02:58:58.560 so we got
02:58:59.120 actually something
02:58:59.660 interesting here
02:59:00.200 for y'all
02:59:00.540 that angie
02:59:02.020 found out
02:59:02.480 just find out
02:59:03.260 that apparently
02:59:04.220 casey
02:59:05.560 casey and
02:59:06.360 don't feel
02:59:07.400 for bankruptcy
02:59:08.260 in 2013
02:59:09.180 and that's why
02:59:11.000 she was like
02:59:11.740 she didn't have
02:59:12.320 any money
02:59:13.040 to pay
02:59:13.840 the lawyer
02:59:14.840 the lawyer
02:59:15.540 and what ended
02:59:16.160 up happening
02:59:16.620 there
02:59:16.980 apparently
02:59:17.800 a paid
02:59:19.620 private investigator
02:59:20.720 did a research
02:59:22.320 an investigation
02:59:23.280 obviously
02:59:23.760 on this
02:59:24.980 and he found
02:59:25.880 out that
02:59:26.720 apparently
02:59:27.480 casey was
02:59:28.360 paying
02:59:28.800 a vice
02:59:30.780 her former
02:59:32.520 attorney
02:59:33.360 lawyer
02:59:34.120 with sexual
02:59:35.720 favors
02:59:36.420 oh boy
02:59:37.620 I told you
02:59:38.180 she belongs to the
02:59:38.900 streets
02:59:39.240 she 304
02:59:41.360 for freedom
02:59:41.940 yeah
02:59:43.020 here you want
02:59:43.480 to show it
02:59:43.760 on screen
02:59:44.140 oh yeah
02:59:45.000 here present
02:59:46.320 right there
02:59:46.760 up top
02:59:47.120 yep
02:59:48.600 and then here
02:59:49.040 share screen
02:59:49.480 no down
02:59:50.040 down
02:59:50.340 yep
02:59:50.580 right there
02:59:51.280 and then
02:59:52.740 not that one
02:59:53.660 click
02:59:54.100 actually
02:59:54.860 this one
02:59:55.660 screen one
02:59:56.280 one second
02:59:56.760 guys
02:59:57.340 it's gonna
03:00:01.960 be
03:00:02.520 yeah
03:00:07.800 okay
03:00:08.060 highlight
03:00:08.780 highlight it
03:00:09.400 for the people
03:00:09.820 where
03:00:10.020 yeah well
03:00:10.500 it says in here
03:00:11.340 that apparently
03:00:12.460 this private
03:00:14.080 investigator
03:00:14.780 heard
03:00:16.320 yeah highlight
03:00:18.440 it for them
03:00:18.960 so they can
03:00:19.460 see it
03:00:19.740 here
03:00:20.340 he heard
03:00:22.220 tell
03:00:23.220 she
03:00:24.020 owned him
03:00:25.060 three blowjob
03:00:26.020 oh can I say
03:00:27.200 that
03:00:27.420 yeah
03:00:27.660 yeah you can
03:00:28.320 say it
03:00:28.540 it's fine
03:00:28.840 let me
03:00:29.500 enlarge
03:00:29.820 real quick
03:00:30.580 there you
03:00:32.480 go
03:00:32.720 all right
03:00:33.260 now highlight
03:00:33.720 it for them
03:00:34.080 here
03:00:35.020 so he
03:00:37.820 said that
03:00:38.320 he claimed
03:00:38.840 that he heard
03:00:39.340 bias tell
03:00:39.940 her she
03:00:40.500 owned
03:00:40.680 three
03:00:41.160 big jobs
03:00:42.260 after he
03:00:42.880 canceled
03:00:43.200 a media
03:00:43.720 interview
03:00:44.340 at her
03:00:44.960 bro
03:00:46.180 what the
03:00:46.820 hell
03:00:47.160 oh
03:00:48.340 lord
03:00:49.000 because she
03:00:49.460 had no
03:00:49.780 money for
03:00:50.120 her defense
03:00:50.740 that's crazy
03:00:51.720 so he was
03:00:52.760 yeah
03:00:53.140 she gave
03:00:53.980 that crazy
03:00:54.520 guac guac
03:00:55.060 3000
03:00:55.540 apparently she
03:00:56.120 was seen
03:00:56.500 too close
03:00:57.040 to her
03:00:57.620 lawyer
03:00:58.280 after the
03:00:58.920 trial
03:00:59.240 I believe
03:00:59.900 it
03:01:00.060 I mean
03:01:00.300 Johnny Depp
03:01:00.860 bro
03:01:01.120 did the
03:01:01.500 same
03:01:01.660 with his
03:01:01.920 lawyer
03:01:02.100 he ended
03:01:02.420 up
03:01:02.600 smashing
03:01:02.960 her
03:01:03.140 a few
03:01:03.360 times
03:01:03.660 so
03:01:03.880 I
03:01:04.460 believe
03:01:04.960 it
03:01:05.140 because
03:01:05.440 if
03:01:05.960 someone
03:01:06.200 saves
03:01:06.500 your
03:01:06.660 life
03:01:06.960 you're
03:01:07.340 gonna
03:01:07.460 wanna
03:01:07.740 like
03:01:08.120 I
03:01:08.280 guess
03:01:08.540 repay
03:01:09.580 favor
03:01:10.340 in this
03:01:10.700 case
03:01:11.020 and he
03:01:13.000 she
03:01:13.140 couldn't
03:01:13.400 pay
03:01:13.640 so he
03:01:13.860 was like
03:01:14.100 it's
03:01:14.440 okay
03:01:14.720 because
03:01:15.180 here's
03:01:15.540 the thing
03:01:15.760 he definitely
03:01:16.380 made that
03:01:16.760 money back
03:01:17.200 I'll tell
03:01:17.520 you how
03:01:17.700 that after
03:01:18.140 he won
03:01:18.440 that case
03:01:18.920 he got
03:01:19.540 booked
03:01:19.800 he was
03:01:20.060 able to
03:01:20.380 increase
03:01:20.800 his rate
03:01:21.200 to whatever
03:01:21.760 the hell
03:01:22.000 it was
03:01:22.240 you were
03:01:22.440 saying
03:01:22.620 before
03:01:22.900 so yeah
03:01:23.860 and just
03:01:24.720 so you
03:01:24.880 guys know
03:01:25.280 she did
03:01:26.000 end up
03:01:26.340 getting
03:01:26.660 even though
03:01:27.320 she got
03:01:27.560 acquitted
03:01:27.840 of the
03:01:28.080 murder
03:01:28.260 charges
03:01:28.620 right
03:01:28.880 she was
03:01:29.660 convicted
03:01:30.040 on four
03:01:30.480 misdemeanor
03:01:30.900 counts of
03:01:31.360 providing
03:01:31.700 false
03:01:32.080 information
03:01:32.620 she was
03:01:33.260 sentenced
03:01:33.460 to four
03:01:34.000 years
03:01:34.360 one year
03:01:34.940 for each
03:01:35.360 count
03:01:35.980 according
03:01:36.360 to CNN
03:01:36.900 but with
03:01:37.520 credit
03:01:37.740 having already
03:01:38.360 served
03:01:38.620 three years
03:01:38.980 she was
03:01:39.360 released
03:01:39.620 from jail
03:01:40.020 on July
03:01:40.760 17 2011
03:01:41.600 in part
03:01:42.040 for good
03:01:42.320 behavior
03:01:42.600 so they
03:01:43.240 threw the
03:01:43.560 book at
03:01:43.880 her for
03:01:44.220 lying
03:01:44.520 guys
03:01:44.760 but you
03:01:45.060 don't get
03:01:45.380 that much
03:01:45.760 time
03:01:46.140 for misdemeanors
03:01:47.160 but they're
03:01:47.460 like you
03:01:47.680 know what
03:01:48.040 you got off
03:01:49.200 on killing
03:01:49.560 your kid
03:01:50.020 we're hitting
03:01:50.720 you with
03:01:51.020 the book
03:01:51.500 as far as
03:01:53.240 you know
03:01:53.900 these misdemeanors
03:01:54.680 because remember
03:01:55.060 guys the
03:01:55.400 misdemeanor
03:01:55.780 is a year
03:01:57.040 or under
03:01:57.580 anything over
03:01:58.460 a year
03:01:58.820 366 days
03:02:00.080 or above
03:02:00.480 is considered
03:02:01.660 a felony
03:02:02.080 so they hit
03:02:02.920 her for
03:02:03.700 a year
03:02:04.520 for each
03:02:05.180 of the lies
03:02:05.880 so they
03:02:06.800 you know
03:02:07.140 Florida was like
03:02:07.800 hey man
03:02:08.080 we gonna get
03:02:08.520 her justice
03:02:08.880 somehow
03:02:09.320 so they
03:02:10.020 hit her
03:02:10.200 with that
03:02:10.620 and uh
03:02:11.820 hey man
03:02:12.360 at least
03:02:12.640 she did
03:02:12.860 some jail
03:02:13.260 time
03:02:13.500 but yeah
03:02:13.820 guys
03:02:14.040 this is
03:02:14.360 this is
03:02:14.700 wild stuff
03:02:15.140 yeah
03:02:19.040 yeah
03:02:19.480 I know
03:02:20.240 with all
03:02:20.520 those lies
03:02:20.900 right
03:02:21.060 but they
03:02:22.060 probably
03:02:22.340 were only
03:02:22.720 able to
03:02:23.040 use the
03:02:23.320 lies
03:02:23.500 that like
03:02:23.780 they were
03:02:24.040 able to
03:02:24.460 like
03:02:24.660 demonstrate
03:02:25.380 like actually
03:02:26.000 mess them
03:02:26.380 up
03:02:26.560 like going
03:02:26.940 to Universal
03:02:27.420 Studios
03:02:28.000 like
03:02:28.800 yeah
03:02:31.320 exactly
03:02:32.280 the stuff
03:02:32.700 that like
03:02:33.000 actually made
03:02:33.660 them waste
03:02:34.020 time
03:02:34.200 because they
03:02:34.440 had to
03:02:34.680 like prove
03:02:35.280 why the
03:02:36.100 lie hurt
03:02:36.460 the investigation
03:02:37.100 so
03:02:37.900 um
03:02:38.740 all right
03:02:39.400 cool
03:02:39.580 so I guess
03:02:40.060 guys
03:02:40.340 that is the
03:02:40.920 Casey Anthony
03:02:41.400 case man
03:02:41.820 we've been
03:02:42.060 going for
03:02:42.340 three hours
03:02:42.720 here man
03:02:43.000 time flies
03:02:43.400 when you're
03:02:43.620 having fun
03:02:43.980 right
03:02:44.160 um
03:02:44.920 uh
03:02:46.020 Angie
03:02:46.940 what do you
03:02:47.140 want to
03:02:47.320 tell the
03:02:47.520 people
03:02:47.740 and what
03:02:48.380 are your
03:02:48.540 thoughts
03:02:48.760 on the
03:02:49.100 situation
03:02:49.640 uh
03:02:50.120 final thoughts
03:02:50.660 whatever
03:02:50.920 because I
03:02:51.240 know we
03:02:51.460 got cut off
03:02:51.940 for a bit
03:02:52.240 here
03:02:52.480 they got
03:02:53.200 what you
03:02:53.480 said on
03:02:53.780 Twitch
03:02:53.980 but they
03:02:54.260 didn't
03:02:54.380 get on
03:02:54.640 YouTube
03:02:54.840 so if
03:02:55.100 you
03:02:55.140 want to
03:02:55.360 summarize
03:02:55.600 it
03:02:55.760 back up
03:02:56.040 well
03:02:56.200 yeah
03:02:56.480 basically
03:02:56.880 what I
03:02:57.260 said
03:02:57.440 is that
03:02:57.880 well
03:02:58.280 I
03:02:58.560 actually
03:02:58.920 want to
03:03:07.900 he tried
03:03:08.380 to hurt
03:03:09.120 him
03:03:09.240 commit
03:03:10.300 suicide
03:03:10.580 okay
03:03:10.780 yeah
03:03:11.140 I think
03:03:11.760 he was
03:03:12.480 trying to
03:03:12.880 jump off
03:03:13.320 a balcony
03:03:13.920 because he
03:03:14.500 was staying
03:03:15.160 in a hotel
03:03:15.860 oh wow
03:03:16.600 something like
03:03:17.500 that I read
03:03:18.240 because he
03:03:19.500 yeah he had
03:03:20.080 a hard time
03:03:20.940 while this
03:03:21.920 happened
03:03:22.280 like the
03:03:22.760 trial and
03:03:24.020 all that
03:03:24.340 stuff
03:03:24.680 but yeah
03:03:25.460 my conclusion
03:03:26.280 is that
03:03:26.740 yeah this
03:03:27.140 crazy girl
03:03:28.120 just wanted
03:03:28.600 to have
03:03:29.060 some fun
03:03:29.600 and she
03:03:30.320 didn't want
03:03:30.720 to have
03:03:31.140 any
03:03:31.380 responsibilities
03:03:31.920 and apparently
03:03:32.820 her baby
03:03:33.340 was just
03:03:33.880 like her
03:03:35.120 biggest
03:03:35.520 I don't
03:03:36.440 know
03:03:36.680 object
03:03:37.440 I don't
03:03:38.160 know
03:03:38.360 in her
03:03:39.060 life
03:03:39.540 to have
03:03:40.100 this
03:03:40.320 life
03:03:40.600 so
03:03:41.000 she
03:03:41.560 wanted
03:03:41.720 to have
03:03:42.040 the
03:03:42.240 idolized
03:03:43.120 life
03:03:43.580 or
03:03:43.880 the
03:03:44.240 streets
03:03:44.700 however
03:03:45.100 you call
03:03:45.560 it
03:03:45.700 yeah
03:03:45.820 the
03:03:45.960 streets
03:03:46.240 and
03:03:47.020 she killed
03:03:47.940 her baby
03:03:48.320 that's for
03:03:48.980 me
03:03:49.240 but yeah
03:03:50.740 hands down
03:03:51.220 she killed
03:03:51.580 her baby
03:03:52.000 and she
03:03:53.240 got away
03:03:53.760 with it
03:03:54.440 basically
03:03:54.880 no it's
03:03:55.920 it's
03:03:56.220 it's definitely
03:03:57.420 a wild
03:03:58.480 I'll read
03:03:58.860 some of these
03:03:59.180 super chats
03:03:59.640 by the way
03:04:00.100 as well
03:04:00.460 guys
03:04:00.820 thank you guys
03:04:01.880 for all the
03:04:02.200 support
03:04:02.520 so we got
03:04:03.660 here 10
03:04:04.000 bucks from
03:04:04.400 long
03:04:04.720 ho
03:04:05.000 you know
03:04:05.740 your guys
03:04:06.080 names are
03:04:06.740 hilarious
03:04:07.200 here
03:04:07.480 let me put
03:04:08.520 this up
03:04:08.800 on screen
03:04:09.120 he goes
03:04:09.420 just donating
03:04:10.460 shout out
03:04:11.080 to you for
03:04:11.760 everything
03:04:12.080 Myron
03:04:12.380 how much
03:04:13.100 longer
03:04:13.440 for why
03:04:14.140 women deserve
03:04:14.600 less and
03:04:15.040 will it be
03:04:15.600 in big
03:04:16.380 bookstores
03:04:16.920 yeah so it's
03:04:17.800 going to be
03:04:18.060 on out on
03:04:18.520 Amazon guys
03:04:19.100 and I'm
03:04:19.460 going to
03:04:19.600 release it
03:04:19.960 on audio
03:04:20.500 it's going
03:04:21.140 to be out
03:04:21.560 probably
03:04:22.040 it's done
03:04:22.700 I just sent
03:04:23.680 it for
03:04:24.460 to be put
03:04:25.620 out in print
03:04:26.100 so we'll
03:04:26.740 probably have
03:04:27.200 it for you
03:04:27.700 guys by
03:04:28.180 February
03:04:28.540 March
03:04:28.920 so it
03:04:29.740 but don't
03:04:30.300 worry
03:04:30.420 it's going
03:04:30.620 to be
03:04:30.700 on Amazon
03:04:31.020 it's going
03:04:31.280 to be
03:04:31.360 on all
03:04:31.700 platforms
03:04:32.120 y'all
03:04:32.300 be able
03:04:32.560 to get
03:04:32.800 it
03:04:32.980 and I'll
03:04:33.560 also have
03:04:34.000 it on
03:04:34.400 all
03:04:34.660 guys
03:04:34.900 it should
03:04:35.220 be called
03:04:35.580 most women
03:04:36.300 though
03:04:36.700 most women
03:04:37.420 yeah
03:04:37.840 instead of
03:04:38.760 why women
03:04:39.240 because you're
03:04:39.960 including everyone
03:04:40.580 there
03:04:40.880 yeah well
03:04:41.420 yeah fuck
03:04:42.160 your feelings
03:04:42.500 okay
03:04:43.200 Edward Bates
03:04:44.460 who is the
03:04:45.160 woman who
03:04:45.540 lied on Emmett
03:04:46.160 Tilt
03:04:46.340 that's a good
03:04:47.320 question
03:04:47.680 can you look
03:04:48.100 that up
03:04:48.320 real quick
03:04:48.580 for the
03:04:48.780 people
03:04:49.020 Angie
03:04:49.480 woman
03:04:50.860 just type
03:04:51.420 in Emmett
03:04:51.740 Till
03:04:51.880 accuser
03:04:52.660 I'm sure
03:04:54.760 someone in the
03:04:55.160 chat might have
03:04:55.600 already put it
03:04:56.180 and thank you
03:04:57.680 guys for sending
03:04:58.360 in the super
03:04:58.780 chats
03:04:59.020 I just didn't
03:04:59.460 want to read
03:04:59.760 them in too
03:05:00.200 much in the
03:05:00.560 middle of the
03:05:00.820 show
03:05:00.940 so I can
03:05:01.380 get through
03:05:02.000 it
03:05:02.120 because I
03:05:02.300 knew this
03:05:02.540 was going
03:05:02.740 to be a
03:05:02.920 long one
03:05:03.220 shout out
03:05:04.000 the FNF
03:05:04.560 episode of
03:05:05.000 you debating
03:05:05.340 the two
03:05:05.560 feminists
03:05:05.820 he enjoyed
03:05:06.380 the high IQ
03:05:07.000 combo
03:05:07.260 appreciate that
03:05:07.960 man
03:05:08.160 I know
03:05:08.560 some of you
03:05:08.820 guys got
03:05:09.120 annoyed by
03:05:09.500 that debate
03:05:09.920 but bro
03:05:10.320 whenever you
03:05:11.020 bring these
03:05:11.460 people in
03:05:11.860 that think
03:05:12.140 they're
03:05:12.280 their
03:05:12.420 intellects
03:05:13.000 you can't
03:05:13.500 just sit
03:05:13.780 there and
03:05:14.040 get mad
03:05:14.360 at them
03:05:14.540 like yo
03:05:14.860 shut up
03:05:15.300 no no
03:05:15.620 you got to
03:05:16.000 hear their
03:05:16.220 points out
03:05:16.600 so you can
03:05:16.900 actually attack
03:05:17.360 the points
03:05:17.740 not the
03:05:18.060 person
03:05:18.340 you know
03:05:19.220 so I'm
03:05:20.320 okay with
03:05:20.700 having these
03:05:21.560 types of
03:05:22.040 debates
03:05:22.660 with people
03:05:23.000 that you
03:05:23.460 know
03:05:23.560 think that
03:05:23.900 they're
03:05:24.340 super
03:05:24.600 educated
03:05:24.940 dude
03:05:25.480 you gotta
03:05:25.860 battle
03:05:27.240 these
03:05:27.460 feminists
03:05:27.800 with logic
03:05:28.180 man
03:05:28.360 because they
03:05:28.620 always lose
03:05:29.060 they kept
03:05:29.500 saying
03:05:29.800 everything
03:05:30.060 was a
03:05:30.380 social
03:05:30.600 construct
03:05:31.000 when in
03:05:31.300 reality
03:05:31.620 it's not
03:05:32.100 dude
03:05:32.320 that's
03:05:32.640 just
03:05:32.760 not
03:05:32.920 the
03:05:33.040 world
03:05:33.360 works
03:05:33.640 CKB
03:05:35.300 goes
03:05:35.520 yo
03:05:35.660 Martin
03:05:35.840 if FNF
03:05:36.360 gets banned
03:05:36.760 from YouTube
03:05:37.140 you'll have
03:05:37.820 to stop
03:05:38.080 posting on Fed
03:05:38.540 as well
03:05:38.800 because if
03:05:39.120 you do
03:05:39.340 they'll
03:05:39.560 ban Fed
03:05:39.900 as well
03:05:40.240 who knows
03:05:40.840 man
03:05:41.100 once LDA
03:05:42.400 becomes a
03:05:43.340 YouTube
03:05:43.520 member
03:05:43.740 shout out
03:05:44.060 to you
03:05:44.200 my friend
03:05:44.560 welcome
03:05:45.160 to the
03:05:45.500 team
03:05:45.740 we got
03:05:46.760 here
03:05:47.120 another
03:05:47.840 chat
03:05:48.200 from
03:05:48.900 Rex
03:05:49.540 Gardner
03:05:50.140 huge
03:05:50.740 fan
03:05:50.940 of
03:05:51.060 your
03:05:51.160 content
03:05:51.620 inspired
03:05:52.260 me
03:05:52.440 to ask
03:05:52.780 the love
03:05:53.060 of my
03:05:53.280 life
03:05:53.480 to
03:05:53.620 marry
03:05:53.800 me
03:05:53.980 guess
03:05:54.240 what
03:05:54.420 my
03:05:54.580 sister
03:05:54.820 said
03:05:55.120 yes
03:05:55.460 thank
03:05:55.700 you
03:05:56.540 what
03:05:57.360 what
03:05:58.700 what
03:05:59.900 these guys
03:06:02.460 are crazy
03:06:03.060 yo
03:06:04.140 yo
03:06:05.640 this chat
03:06:06.080 is crazy
03:06:06.480 yo guys
03:06:06.960 do me
03:06:07.140 a favor
03:06:07.520 can you
03:06:08.100 guys
03:06:08.260 like the
03:06:08.560 video
03:06:08.740 by the
03:06:08.940 way
03:06:09.060 help
03:06:09.180 me
03:06:09.260 get
03:06:09.360 up
03:06:09.460 to
03:06:09.540 1500
03:06:09.920 likes
03:06:10.260 I
03:06:10.400 think
03:06:10.520 we're
03:06:10.640 at
03:06:10.740 1400
03:06:11.060 so
03:06:11.880 yeah
03:06:12.480 you
03:06:13.420 guys
03:06:13.600 are
03:06:13.700 hilarious
03:06:14.060 bro
03:06:14.280 what
03:06:14.500 the
03:06:14.780 hell
03:06:15.140 my
03:06:15.980 man
03:06:16.380 trolling
03:06:16.940 out
03:06:17.320 here
03:06:17.660 out
03:06:18.100 the
03:06:18.260 wooza
03:06:18.640 these
03:06:19.460 super
03:06:19.680 chats
03:06:20.020 got
03:06:20.560 no
03:06:20.780 chill
03:06:21.040 you
03:06:21.680 guys
03:06:21.840 are
03:06:21.940 funny
03:06:22.180 uh
03:06:22.680 mara's
03:06:23.020 grandfather
03:06:23.520 and it's a picture of
03:06:24.360 osama bin laden
03:06:25.240 uh thank you bro
03:06:26.040 you already know what time I'm on grandson
03:06:28.420 i know what time you're on bro you on that demon time my friend
03:06:30.960 i thought you were dead though
03:06:34.000 obama said you were dead bro are you alive still
03:06:36.720 uh miss lawless goes casey later said her dad abused her
03:06:40.200 sexually and had seizures when kaylee died
03:06:42.260 she also claimed kaylee was great baby with her ex-boyfriend who drugged her
03:06:46.320 yeah i think that's from the documentary from peacock right more than likely where she gives her side which you guys can go ahead and check out that documentary uh where they pretty much pin all of it on the father but i mean y'all saw his demeanor i think that man is 1000 percent innocent and she just wanted to fight fire with fire and she was mad that he testified against her grand jury which is why she made that absurd lie up that she was assaulted by him to those of you saying y'all need subtitles when the lady talks what's wrong with y'all
03:07:12.240 just effing listen she's doing all her best they're talking about you what you got
03:07:16.300 what you got to say to people that say you need subtitles
03:07:18.300 nothing
03:07:19.300 what can i say man
03:07:20.360 her english does suck guys so it's okay don't feel bad i don't understand her either when i'd be talking to her i'd be like wait what is something what okay uh let's see here she's a good sport about it though
03:07:32.360 uh what the fuck i read a chapter of uh why women deserve less than she got triggered but she was
03:07:38.840 like you know this is interesting super hobby one dollar thank you so much super hobby i don't know
03:07:43.100 if this is a troll account or not but you look uh handsome with that hair uh maybe i'm not woke enough
03:07:48.000 martin are you going to do a pre-order for your book uh i'm not gonna do a pre-order but i am gonna
03:07:52.280 sign the first 200 copies for y'all okay guys so don't worry as you guys want to sign copy i'll sell it
03:07:57.680 myspace was the move back in the day yeah uh broke from the smoke yes myspace was back in the day you
03:08:03.260 could play your music and shit back in the day remember that what was the song that was on your
03:08:06.520 myspace profile my son yeah what was your song man i don't want to say my song my song yeah what was it
03:08:12.740 tell the people what was your myspace song here yeah go ahead uh probably a jonas brothers song
03:08:17.900 jonas brothers yeah what was the name of the song from jonas brothers maybe sos sos from jonas brothers
03:08:23.700 yeah probably i've never heard that song so or maybe i have but i just can't remember but
03:08:27.560 i know the chat's about to start roasting you yeah uh james brunette thanks for the breakdown
03:08:30.560 thank you james i appreciate it uh wait is that the james brunette that i used to know
03:08:35.340 bro you back alive again are you back here where you been at all this time man we haven't seen you
03:08:40.240 in a long ass time uh and then we got here uh three diglets that dude had black eyebrows white hair
03:08:47.200 and a gray mustache yeah i know he used that just for men if you know what i'm saying or in this case
03:08:52.560 just for chokes on his on his daughter he said get over here get over here where's my granddaughter
03:08:57.700 he turned into batman where is she where is she casey where's kaylee he probably smacked the shit
03:09:04.300 out of her uh pathological liars should just not commit crimes facts they always ruin things because
03:09:09.260 they can't keep a straight story believe all women right come on man i know bro i know i know
03:09:14.080 uh and then we got here uh don patron mexican nanny gem name generator yep okay so i think we're
03:09:20.660 caught up on all the chats did they make fun of her song uh yes they did make they're making fun of
03:09:26.080 your song your song all right good to hear from fede again are you going to get greg to set on fnf
03:09:30.300 you guys we're talking about that uh knf uh uh chess broad pod would love to see yes we will be
03:09:35.840 getting greg to set on guys don't worry i got him locked in i just gotta figure out
03:09:40.080 i just gotta figure out the day i gotta talk with these people as you guys know we're in
03:09:43.980 youtube jail for a week so i couldn't really you know i mean adam russell 39 super sticker 10 bucks
03:09:48.820 i appreciate that uh someone in here said a lot where shout out to you my friend we'll get the
03:09:54.400 rocks on casey man because what she did was very haram um but yeah all right cool um angie anything
03:10:01.440 you want to uh you want to drop your instagram for the people real quick and where they can find
03:10:04.880 you want me to type it here because i don't know should i say it spell it uh spell it out for them
03:10:09.840 and then i could type it in so it's s-o-a-n-g-e-l-i-c-a-a all right so it's so angelica
03:10:19.120 with two a's at the end guys yes there you go there you go and i put it in there for y'all so
03:10:22.380 you guys can go ahead and send a dick pic to you don't please don't no all right hey guys hope you
03:10:29.300 guys enjoyed that video man uh we'll be back with um fresh and fit tomorrow 7 p.m we're gonna have
03:10:33.640 charleston white we got a lot of heat planned for y'all i'm gonna go ahead and schedule the greg
03:10:36.600 this interview thank you for bringing that up and i will definitely hit up his team like y'all know
03:10:39.960 we were in the youtube jail for a week guys like the video so it could go up in the algorithm share
03:10:44.100 this one with a friend because as you guys know when you're banned for youtube for a week you can't
03:10:47.600 pass you i'm sorry you can't post it you know messes with the algo and all that other crap so
03:10:52.220 subscribe below um sorry subscribe like the video comment below what you guys thought about
03:10:58.140 the case and the breakdown of casey anthony was she guilty was she not and uh yeah man uh
03:11:03.060 check me out also fed 1811 on anchor and then yeah and angie how you enjoy shout out to angie
03:11:07.740 by the way for helping out she did a bunch of research thank you for having me you know i i
03:11:13.840 think they like you probably the most of a lot of the other ladies that i brought on the show
03:11:17.600 because they don't really study or know too much you bring them crazy girls here that's true but
03:11:22.160 they're hot so you know it is what is this the internet uh but other than that guys love y'all i'll
03:11:26.720 catch you guys on the next episode of fed it i'll catch you guys back here tomorrow for a fresh and
03:11:30.980 fit at 7 p.m we're gonna go get some food uh peace love y'all man thank you so much for the support
03:11:35.440 i was a special agent with homelands investigations okay guys hsi the cases that i did mostly were
03:11:42.740 human smuggling and drug trafficking no one else has these documents by the way here's what fed it
03:11:49.580 covers dr lafredo confirmed lacerations due to