The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Former Fed Explains WHY R. Kelly got 30 YEARS In Prison...

00:00:00.780 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to Fed It. Today, we're going to break down the R. Kelly case, and I'm joined with a returning friend, a.k.a. Miss Tits McGee. She's back.

00:00:11.000 Let's get in with guys. We've got a lot to talk about. Let's do it.

00:00:17.260 Move over, Denzel.

00:00:18.260 Okay, guys. I used to be a special agent while I'm launching your investigations. This is the arrest paperwork, okay? So here is the booking. Cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking. Those are like two crimes that I'm a very good agent, very strong agent. I did a lot of big cases. I've done Title III intercepts, which is basically listening to phones. I've written hundreds of affidavits to arrest people. I've done a grand jury and testified a million times.

00:00:45.800 I've done big cases. I've done. All right. What's up, guys? Welcome to Fed It 1811. Today, we're going to be talking about the R. Kelly case. So number one, quick announcements, guys. I'm really happy that you guys are all here. We had a very busy week this week. Tomorrow, we're not going to be doing Fresh and Fit. We're going to have Fresh and Fit on Tuesday, guys. And the reason why we're going to do it on Tuesday is because it's July 4th. A lot of people are not going to be home. They're going to be out traveling, whatever it may be. They're going to be doing barbecues and fireworks and everything.

00:01:14.520 So we're going to go ahead and give you all Fresh and Fit Money Monday on Tuesday. We're probably going to talk about entrepreneurship. And then we're obviously going to give you guys a nighttime show as well. And then I'm debating whether I'm going to give you guys a second episode of Fed It. We'll see. Maybe I'll do one tomorrow. Who knows? I got another case that I want to cover with a bank robbery that I think you guys would really enjoy where I react to it.

00:01:38.180 It's an old documentary from back in the 90s, but it's really good stuff. And I think you guys are going to join me in breaking it down for y'all.

00:01:44.120 So let's see here. I think we had a super chat real quick. Actually, no, no. Denise, you want to introduce yourself to the people real quick?

00:01:50.140 Yes. Hi, I'm Denise. I've been here before. I'm better known as Tits McGee.

00:01:57.640 Nice to see everybody again. Missed everyone.

00:02:00.900 Yeah, you got a reduction, didn't you?

00:02:03.100 Yes, I did get a breast reduction. 0.52

00:02:04.360 What were they before? Triple D. Damn.

00:02:07.220 Well, 32 Triple D and now I'm 32 C.

00:02:09.880 Okay. All right. Maybe later on in the show, we'll see what happens, guys.

00:02:13.320 Yeah, yeah. I'll show you guys a little something.

00:02:17.220 So, okay. We'll hit some of these chats.

00:02:18.880 We got Marqueen912. You should do an episode on deadly use of force, reviewing law enforcement, shooting Tennessee versus Garner and the deadly force triangle.

00:02:25.000 Yeah, I could do that. I don't know if the average viewer is going to care for that, though, bro.

00:02:28.920 That's like a very you probably work in law enforcement asking a question like that.

00:02:31.940 Like the average person is going to be like, what? I don't give a fuck about this.

00:02:35.220 So let's see here. And then we got and thank you so much for the donation, my friend.

00:02:39.780 All right. So I guess we'll what else?

00:02:43.120 Other announcements.

00:02:43.900 There's one. There's one way.

00:02:45.360 Okay. We got Monkey D. You saw five bucks.

00:02:47.700 So if you want to come to my hotel, all you got to do is holla at me because we're having an after party.

00:02:53.220 Check it out. Six is more. Six is he's referring to a song with Cassidy and R. Kelly.

00:02:59.060 I remember that shit, man. That shit was a girl. You want to come to my hotel? 1.00

00:03:03.300 Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, R. Kelly had a lot of hits, man.

00:03:08.660 Like it's it's crazy how things have changed and everything else like that.

00:03:13.840 But all right. So I guess we'll get right into.

00:03:16.620 Oh, and then sorry, guys, for starting kind of late.

00:03:18.900 I've started running again. I was I lifted weights and then I actually went for a run.

00:03:23.400 And I'm I got some things that I'm training for that I can't disclose yet.

00:03:27.260 But yeah, you guys will see soon enough.

00:03:29.840 But yeah, I started running again. So I had to like, you know, I come in and you know, when you go on a run, you fucking sweat for like a long ass time.

00:03:35.860 And you're just like, oh, God. So I just showered and I'm still sweating a bit here.

00:03:39.240 But yeah, it's good. I'm still good cardiovascular shape. So that makes me feel happy.

00:03:42.520 I'm slower than I used to be, but I'm going to get back to like, you know, six minute miles.

00:03:45.660 But anyway, with that said, let's see here.

00:03:49.960 So we're going to go ahead, guys, and introduce you guys to who R. Kelly is.

00:03:54.320 You know, some of you guys may not know who this guy is.

00:03:56.100 He's probably before a lot of your guys this time.

00:03:58.340 So, yeah.

00:04:00.180 So we got here. Here he is.

00:04:02.740 Robert Sylvester Kelly, born January 8th, 1967, is an American singer, songwriter, record producer and convicted sex offender.

00:04:09.600 As a recording artist, Kelly was credited with helping to redefine R&B and hip hop,

00:04:13.300 earning nicknames such as the King of R&B, the King of Pop Soul, and the Pied Piper of R&B,

00:04:18.800 which is kind of funny because, you know, they would use the Pied Piper to refer to him getting girls that are young.

00:04:24.180 He is known for his extensive discography of hits spanning three decades.

00:04:29.260 He sold over 75 million records worldwide, which made him the most successful male R&B artist of the 90s

00:04:35.340 and one of the world's bestselling music artists.

00:04:37.500 He won three Grammy Awards for his song, I Believe I Can Fly.

00:04:40.620 He has written, produced, and remixed songs, singles, and albums for several artists, including Michael Jackson's

00:04:46.320 You Are Not Alone, for which he was nominated for a Grammy.

00:04:49.820 Throughout his career, Kelly has been repeatedly accused of sexual abuse with young adults and minors.

00:04:54.420 He faced multiple civil suits and was indicted by criminal courts in Chicago, New York, Illinois, and Minnesota.

00:04:59.780 He repeatedly denied the charges.

00:05:01.080 In 1994, he illegally married his underage protege, Aaliyah.

00:05:05.380 In 2002, he was indicted but eventually acquitted on 21 counts of making child pornography.

00:05:09.340 So I know you guys are probably wondering, wait, hold on, hold on, who's Aaliyah?

00:05:12.120 I got y'all ninjas right now.

00:05:13.900 This is Aaliyah, guys, just so you know.

00:05:19.520 Okay, so Aaliyah here.

00:05:20.780 Can you hit control plus on your end, Denise, just on the top screen so I can see it because I'm blind.

00:05:27.720 Where are you, Zed?

00:05:29.080 You know what?

00:05:29.560 No, I got it.

00:05:29.900 I got it.

00:05:30.140 Don't worry about it.

00:05:30.500 Okay, Aaliyah Dana Houghton, known monominously as Aaliyah, was an American singer, actress, dancer, and model. 0.99

00:05:39.640 She has been credited for helping to redefine contemporary R&B, hip-hop, and hip-hop, earning her the nickname as the Princess of R&B and Queen of Urban Pop.

00:05:47.100 Born in Brooklyn but raised in Detroit, she first gained recognition at the age of 10 when she appeared on the television show Star Search and performed in concert alongside Gladys Knight.

00:05:56.840 At the age of 12, Aaliyah signed Wood Drive Records and her uncle Barry Hankerson's Black Ground Records, and that's when she met R. Kelly, guys, when she was 12.

00:06:04.620 Hankerson introduced her to R. Kelly, who became her mentor as well as lead songwriter and producer of her debut album, Age Ain't Nothing But A Number.

00:06:11.960 Oh, man, that did not, that aged perfectly, I guess, in a terrible way, right?

00:06:16.280 Like, holy shit.

00:06:18.680 Okay, the album sold 3 million copies in the United States and was certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Associates, RIAA, after allegations of an illegal marriage with R. Kelly, Aaliyah ended her contract with Jive and signed with Atlantic Records.

00:06:32.320 And this, guys, is the marriage certificate right here that everyone is talking about.

00:06:39.540 I'm going to share screen with y'all real fast.

00:06:42.100 Bam.

00:06:43.740 You can see here, marriage license greetings to any person legally authorized to solemnize a marriage.

00:06:49.520 September 6, 1994, Robert S. Kelly of Chicago and the county of Cook and the state of Illinois of the age of 27,

00:06:56.360 and Aaliyah D. Haughton of Chicago and the county of Cook and the age of Illinois of the age of 18 years old.

00:07:02.540 When in reality, guys, when this happened in 94, I think she was actually 15, if I'm not mistaken.

00:07:10.340 She was born 1979, 1979.

00:07:14.760 My math sucks.

00:07:15.980 I think she was 15.

00:07:17.420 But yeah, 1994 minus 1979.

00:07:21.520 Bear with me, guys.

00:07:22.060 I failed algebra a bunch of times.

00:07:23.600 Don't worry.

00:07:23.860 15.

00:07:24.180 I was right.

00:07:25.300 I was right there with you.

00:07:26.840 Thank you.

00:07:27.180 So, you know, and Aaliyah, you know, is a legend also in the R&B space, guys, but she passed away in 2001.

00:07:34.160 And I remember it was an airplane crash.

00:07:35.940 I remember when the news broke back then.

00:07:38.520 I was 11 back then.

00:07:39.400 So, anyway, so anyway, let's go back to R. Kelly.

00:07:44.980 Where were we?

00:07:46.860 So, yeah, this is the marriage.

00:07:47.740 That was the marriage certificate.

00:07:48.980 Not a good look for him getting married to her.

00:07:52.100 Okay.

00:07:53.020 So, in January 2019, a lifetime television docu-series, Surviving R. Kelly, helped resurface the scandal.

00:08:00.460 Under pressure from the Mute R. Kelly movement, RCA records terminated Kelly's contract with that label.

00:08:05.040 In 2019, several jurisdictions built criminal cases against Kelly, and grand juries brought indictments in both federal and state courts.

00:08:11.920 And for some of you guys that are wondering, this is the documentary that they're talking about right here, Surviving R. Kelly.

00:08:19.960 Oh, hold on.

00:08:20.660 My bad.

00:08:20.960 Let me share a screen with y'all.

00:08:22.540 This is it right here, Surviving R. Kelly.

00:08:24.540 In this documentary series on the tangled history of allegations against musician R. Kelly women give detailed accounts of sexual and mental abuse.

00:08:31.160 Now, I'm going to reserve my thoughts on this documentary to the end, and we'll go over the facts.

00:08:37.580 Yes, but there's some things here that we could definitely discuss when it comes to this documentary, because I did watch some of it.

00:08:45.980 Denise, you watched the whole thing, right?

00:08:47.060 What was your take on it?

00:08:49.020 Well, my take on it is...

00:08:51.020 Because you watched all the episodes, right?

00:08:53.040 Yeah.

00:08:54.020 Yes, he did.

00:08:55.740 He did try to get with a lot of minors, but he also was with a lot of women of age.

00:09:02.840 It was just all about, from what I've seen, it's all about how much he can control them.

00:09:08.460 So I feel that if he was able to control...

00:09:11.040 My conclusion is if he was able to control somebody and they were able to listen to him and do what he said, that was his girlfriend.

00:09:19.480 He always had more than one.

00:09:22.480 I think he owned like two houses.

00:09:24.620 Okay.

00:09:24.900 And in each house, he always had like girls in their own room.

00:09:29.440 And apparently, from what these women are saying, it sounds like he was really mean.

00:09:33.860 Okay.

00:09:34.180 Like he deprived them of food, deprived them of...

00:09:36.500 Goddamn.

00:09:37.160 Yeah.

00:09:37.840 Yeah, I saw some of that.

00:09:38.840 I was like, holy shit.

00:09:39.720 And he obviously denied all these allegations, guys, that he was like denying girls of food and everything else like that,

00:09:44.340 or telling them when they can piss and all the other stuff.

00:09:46.760 It's a little sensationalized.

00:09:48.980 We don't know if it's 100%.

00:09:51.400 But there's a bunch of witnesses, man.

00:09:53.420 So it looks like, you know, when you have 40 plus witnesses all giving a very similar story, corroborating each other,

00:10:00.460 you know, it's very difficult to defeat that, you know, being objective here.

00:10:04.700 But I'll give my personal opinion at the end.

00:10:06.960 Okay.

00:10:07.360 So let's continue.

00:10:09.600 Hang on.

00:10:10.160 Under pressure from...

00:10:11.080 Okay.

00:10:11.320 So in 2021, the United States Attorney of the Eastern District of New York tried and won the first criminal conviction against Kelly for a sex offense

00:10:19.460 with the jury finding Kelly guilty on a total of nine criminal counts, including violations of the Mann Act and racketeering.

00:10:25.600 On June 29, 2022, Kelly was sentenced to 30 years in prison.

00:10:29.060 Kelly continues to challenge his New York conviction.

00:10:31.020 He actually sued them as well because they put him on a suicide watch.

00:10:34.060 And he's suing them for doing that.

00:10:36.120 As of June 22, Kelly is scheduled to face another federal trial in the Northern District of Illinois alongside his former employees.

00:10:41.100 The indictment alleges Kelly both produced child sexual abuse material and conspired with employees to corruptly win his 2008 acquittal.

00:10:49.040 The trial is scheduled to begin August 15, 2022.

00:10:52.520 So R. Kelly.

00:10:56.320 Talk about a fall from grace, my friends.

00:10:59.220 He went from one of the best R&B.

00:11:02.000 I remember back when they used to call him the king of R&B.

00:11:04.560 I remember when he had the hits, you know, Ignition, Hotel in the 90s.

00:11:08.640 He dominated the 90s.

00:11:09.920 You know, I remember vividly watching Space Jam as a kid back in, you know, I think Space Jam when did it come out?

00:11:17.280 Like 94, 95 or something like that?

00:11:18.920 Yeah.

00:11:19.360 It's still a classic.

00:11:20.420 And that was that was the like lead soundtrack.

00:11:22.600 Let me see here.

00:11:23.400 Space Jam.

00:11:26.980 At 2020, the original 96.

00:11:29.640 OK.

00:11:30.160 And I remember that being like one of the lead songs on there.

00:11:34.740 And, you know, and this is back when like movie soundtracks actually mattered.

00:11:38.080 But nowadays, like movie soundtracks, no one gives a fuck.

00:11:40.200 Like, it's like, OK, your song was featured in a movie.

00:11:43.540 Who gives a shit?

00:11:44.460 Because I remember they used to sell soundtrack albums.

00:11:46.440 You remember those days?

00:11:47.180 Yeah, no.

00:11:47.520 And at McDonald's, they had the cups, everything with Space Jam.

00:11:49.920 It was a really big.

00:11:50.740 Yeah, it was it was huge.

00:11:52.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:52.380 You get the little toy and all that other stuff.

00:11:54.200 Remember, I got the Tasmanian devil because in 96, I was six guys.

00:11:57.580 I was still living in New York City back then.

00:11:59.500 So so, yeah, I remember that was like the lead thing.

00:12:02.060 But yeah, you know, soundtracks nowadays don't don't mean shit.

00:12:04.860 You know, it used to be a thing back then, like having your song on a big movie as a soundtrack.

00:12:08.760 But, you know, times have changed.

00:12:09.760 Record record labels have changed.

00:12:11.740 Selling music has changed.

00:12:13.540 You know, nowadays, like if you didn't go platinum back then with discs, they looked at you like you were a bum.

00:12:20.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:20.360 Like you weren't like a top tier artist.

00:12:21.960 Nowadays, it's normal to like sell 10, 20, 30,000 units.

00:12:25.680 And it's like, wow, to me.

00:12:26.860 So, I mean, the record, the record industry has changed significantly.

00:12:33.480 But yeah, anyway, that's Space Jam for y'all.

00:12:35.240 So I'll hit some of these chats real quick before we get into the criminal case here.

00:12:39.620 And shout out to Denise. 1.00

00:12:40.600 Help me out.

00:12:41.020 Put them all there.

00:12:42.440 We got.

00:12:42.960 Let's see here.

00:12:45.740 And guys, I appreciate all the support.

00:12:47.060 I really do, man.

00:12:47.860 Like I said, I do this channel mostly for like your guys' education and entertainment.

00:12:52.480 So the money, definitely, I appreciate it.

00:12:54.620 You don't have to donate a dollar, but every dollar that you do donate, I appreciate it.

00:12:58.540 And as you guys know, it goes right back into making the content better.

00:13:00.560 Because I do spend a significant amount of time researching these cases for you guys, going through the legal documents.

00:13:05.580 Hell, even Denise studied up and read some of the stuff for y'all so that she can, you know, be somewhere prepared and not just standing, sitting around like a bimbo. 1.00

00:13:14.160 And she's not a bimbo. 1.00

00:13:15.940 But not anymore.

00:13:16.880 Not anymore.

00:13:18.680 Was it from the breast reduction?

00:13:19.960 Is that what?

00:13:20.340 Yeah.

00:13:20.720 Ever since that, ever since the breast reduction, I'm no longer a bimbo. 0.98

00:13:23.400 Boots went down, brain got bigger?

00:13:24.600 Yes.

00:13:24.980 Fair enough.

00:13:27.000 Good train.

00:13:27.740 That's good.

00:13:28.540 What we know, podcast, five bucks.

00:13:29.600 If they're going to give R. Kelly 30, they need to arrest the parents and people that work for him.

00:13:32.800 And can't tell me these females had easy access to him. 0.99

00:13:35.540 That's true.

00:13:36.480 That's very, very true.

00:13:37.720 Because the parents did basically give their kids away to R. Kelly, you know, for the promise of or potential of their child being signed or making money and everything.

00:13:46.720 And then when things didn't work out, a lot of them came back and was like, oh, well, you know, we were abused and stuff.

00:13:50.440 And that's the argument that his defense made.

00:13:54.940 Okay.

00:13:55.620 But it didn't work.

00:13:57.480 They were able to convict him.

00:13:59.360 What else do we got here?

00:14:00.620 Can you pull up some of those?

00:14:01.380 Yeah, let me pull up the other ones.

00:14:03.060 And guys, do me a quick favor while I pull up these others, because now we're going to start getting into the court documents.

00:14:06.780 So please like the video.

00:14:08.640 Garage Man Teddy, 10 bucks.

00:14:10.380 What's good, Myron?

00:14:11.100 You did a great breakdown of the Breonna Taylor case.

00:14:13.420 Are you following the police chase and shooting in Ohio?

00:14:15.920 Protests starting and conflicting accounts already happening.

00:14:18.520 I am not following it, but I will check it out.

00:14:20.680 I've been focusing, guys, on Young Dolph.

00:14:23.900 I got Christina hopping out with that one. 0.98

00:14:26.340 Obviously, this R. Kelly one is what I've been spending time with this week.

00:14:29.360 And then also that bank robbery case that I told you all about.

00:14:32.260 And I'm also working on the Buffalo shooter, guys.

00:14:36.420 He just recently got indicted federally.

00:14:39.280 The guy that the white supremacist dude that went in that shooting in that market.

00:14:43.060 Did you hear about that, Denise?

00:14:44.080 No, I didn't.

00:14:44.800 No.

00:14:45.160 Long story short, back in like late May, this guy fucking went on Twitch streaming, pulled out of AR-15, went into a supermarket and started shooting people.

00:14:53.460 And he did it live on stream.

00:14:55.560 Yeah, I have the actual video.

00:14:56.700 I probably won't be able to play it on YouTube.

00:14:58.700 But I'll probably put it for y'all on Patreon and I'll react to it.

00:15:04.220 But it was really bad.

00:15:05.460 It looks like a video game almost.

00:15:06.980 But it's like, it's sick.

00:15:08.220 It's terrible.

00:15:08.720 I can't believe that really happened.

00:15:10.200 Yeah.

00:15:10.280 He literally mourned himself on Twitch like an idiot going in there and shooting them.

00:15:13.840 And he had like a big manifesto talking about, you know, how, you know, we got to be pure white people and all this other crazy shit.

00:15:22.840 He lost his mind.

00:15:23.580 He was going through psychosis.

00:15:24.380 And he was only 18.

00:15:25.700 My man lost his fucking marbles, you know?

00:15:28.560 Look at Bill Cosby.

00:15:29.440 He said, R. Kelly's innocent.

00:15:32.220 Oh, my God.

00:15:33.120 Look, the fucking thing is blurry.

00:15:34.980 Yo, you guys are fucking.

00:15:39.780 That's clever.

00:15:41.000 Yo.

00:15:41.400 Oh, my God, bro.

00:15:44.500 Yo, chat is un-fucking-defeated, bro.

00:15:47.380 The Fresh at 5th AM, you guys are fucking undefeated, man. 0.55

00:15:51.060 Oh, he's innocent with the fucking blurry Bill Cosby.

00:15:55.180 He's so bad.

00:15:56.600 Oh, man.

00:15:57.440 Anything else here for Jess?

00:16:00.320 Jonathan Hugu, five bucks.

00:16:01.580 R. Kelly's going to be in the shower with a soap on a rope and somebody's going to sing out loud, move your body like a snake, ma. 0.99

00:16:07.700 Move your body like a snake, ma. 1.00

00:16:11.400 Yeah, bro.

00:16:11.760 He had so many hits, man.

00:16:13.420 So many hits.

00:16:14.280 And he dominated the 90s, bro.

00:16:16.120 He was a fucking man.

00:16:17.500 And even in the early 2000s, he was still killing it.

00:16:20.300 You know?

00:16:21.600 One of my favorite joints from him was Fiesta with Jay-Z.

00:16:25.180 The Best of Both Worlds.

00:16:26.220 That was a fantastic CD, that album.

00:16:29.060 The Envy of All Mankind, five bucks.

00:16:30.720 You should do an episode on the Vibes Cartel case.

00:16:32.640 He had dancehall artists, and I think they found dead bodies in his house.

00:16:35.640 Yes, I will do it, even though I'm not familiar with Jamaican law, guys.

00:16:38.340 I'm going to get Dollface to help me out with that. 0.71

00:16:40.160 As you guys know, she's a native Jamaican. 1.00

00:16:42.080 And we'll do that one for y'all.

00:16:44.180 But, yeah, I don't know much about that case.

00:16:47.520 I know Fresh even told me to break that one down.

00:16:49.340 But, dude, I don't know Jamaican law, man.

00:16:51.480 So all I can go off of is what I'm going to see.

00:16:54.120 But from what I understand, the Jamaican police are corrupt.

00:16:56.060 And from what I also know, he is living kind of like in a chill-ass prison.

00:17:01.100 He's not even like really in jail.

00:17:02.380 Oh, wow.

00:17:02.940 It's like when they arrested Pablo Escobar, and they put him in fucking prison.

00:17:07.420 And he was basically, it was like a resort.

00:17:10.640 It was like a resort.

00:17:11.280 They were bringing hookers in and shit. 1.00

00:17:12.500 They were chilling, bro.

00:17:13.540 Yeah, they were letting him dig a hole in the floor.

00:17:15.660 Yeah, like all that shit.

00:17:17.120 So, okay, anybody else?

00:17:20.660 Anyone else, Denise?

00:17:21.820 No, that's one more.

00:17:23.300 Okay, pull up the last one, and then we'll get into it.

00:17:24.920 Shout out to Mario and Denise.

00:17:25.920 Let's play basketball together.

00:17:27.700 Oh, okay.

00:17:28.260 I get it with the boobs. 1.00

00:17:29.280 I get it.

00:17:29.740 Oh, I was like, okay, that's random.

00:17:32.280 All right.

00:17:33.980 That was awkward, Michael.

00:17:35.000 But who cares?

00:17:35.580 Who gives a shit?

00:17:37.800 Bye, Michael.

00:17:40.240 Okay.

00:17:41.000 Oh, no, wait.

00:17:41.860 I think he means Space Jam.

00:17:43.460 Oh.

00:17:43.960 Yeah, I think he means the reference to Space Jam.

00:17:46.340 Maybe he meant that.

00:17:47.060 Look at us being perverts.

00:17:47.820 We're being perverts.

00:17:48.600 Okay, our bad, bro.

00:17:49.860 That's on us for being stupid.

00:17:51.540 Okay.

00:17:53.340 And then I still remember when Chappelle did the parody Piss on You song.

00:17:56.920 Yes, I remember that too, bro.

00:17:58.320 I remember that too.

00:17:59.920 Cover his apology song.

00:18:00.940 It basically admits everything.

00:18:02.040 Oh, I probably can't play it, guys, because I'm going to get in trouble for that shit.

00:18:06.580 It'll probably get hit with copyright.

00:18:07.940 And you know for a fact that his record label right now is probably watching anything that has to do with him with, like, a fucking hawk.

00:18:15.120 So, all right, cool.

00:18:16.120 So, we're going to go ahead, guys, and give you guys a quick little timeline of R. Kelly's sexual misconduct, okay?

00:18:21.760 And this song, I think, might be copyrighted.

00:18:24.820 So, just to play it safe, I'm going to play it without sound.

00:18:27.580 All right?

00:18:27.920 So, here we are, okay?

00:18:33.120 Grammy winner Robert Kelly faces charges, okay, of illegal sexual activities with minors in multiple jurisdictions.

00:18:41.320 We talked about that.

00:18:42.640 You know, New York, Illinois, Minnesota.

00:18:47.240 Or was it Minnesota?

00:18:47.780 Minnesota, I think it was.

00:18:49.400 So, December 1994, there was craziness with Aaliyah, right?

00:18:53.000 We showed you guys the marriage license from August 1994, you know?

00:18:59.220 So, he said that he married her when she was 18, when in reality, she was 15, right?

00:19:03.800 Was in all the press surrounding the debut album that he had written and produced for her, which he called Age Ain't Nothin' But A Number.

00:19:13.940 That's the name of the song.

00:19:15.000 Okay, I'll pause real quick, guys, because we don't want to get hit with the copyright.

00:19:17.920 Right?

00:19:18.300 These dudes are like hawks on here, but I'll play it again.

00:19:20.760 Just got to stop it, play.

00:19:25.840 That's how you get around the copyright shit.

00:19:27.600 You just got to stop it, talk, you know what I'm saying, pause for a second, maybe Denise make a comment.

00:19:33.600 What's your thoughts on this song?

00:19:34.780 I used to like this song a lot.

00:19:36.700 I didn't know any better.

00:19:38.280 Okay.

00:19:39.100 Wait, in 94, how old were you in 94?

00:19:41.480 No, I just like all her songs.

00:19:44.220 The people are probably going to wonder, how old are you, Denise, by the way? 0.93

00:19:46.400 I'm 29.

00:19:47.120 There you go.

00:19:47.440 She's a senior citizen, guys.

00:19:48.460 Yeah.

00:19:48.960 She's almost there.

00:19:50.060 Respect your elders.

00:19:51.200 Respect your elders.

00:19:55.120 94, man.

00:19:56.420 Times changed quite a bit right there.

00:20:02.080 Okay.

00:20:02.600 Kelly, I began working with her when she was 12.

00:20:04.480 And then this infamous interview here on BET.

00:20:07.740 Either girlfriend or boyfriend or cousins.

00:20:10.120 No, we're not related at all.

00:20:12.300 No, we're not.

00:20:12.880 We're just very close.

00:20:13.920 He's my best friend.

00:20:15.740 No such thing as guy and girl best friends, bro.

00:20:21.960 We all know that's cap.

00:20:22.880 If you guys didn't watch the episode that we did the other day, we had a girl actually call her guy friend.

00:20:29.540 And she asked him.

00:20:30.840 I told her to ask him this.

00:20:32.160 Hey, why didn't we ever, like, become anything?

00:20:33.840 And he's just basically was like, oh, yeah.

00:20:35.100 Well, I thought that you didn't like me.

00:20:36.320 No, it's like, bro, it proves my point.

00:20:38.220 There's no such thing as platonic friends between men and women.

00:20:41.220 There's no fucking such thing, man.

00:20:42.320 I agree.

00:20:42.960 You know, it's bullshit.

00:20:44.080 I agree.

00:20:47.420 Two months later, the marriage is annulled under pressure from her parents.

00:20:49.880 So, bam.

00:20:50.600 Marriage got annulled.

00:20:52.000 Here's the document right here, guys.

00:20:53.740 Okay.

00:20:56.180 And then Kelly pays her anomaly 100 to never press charges.

00:21:00.280 Neither publicly confirmed the marriage before Aliyah's untimely death in 2001.

00:21:04.760 Okay.

00:21:05.120 And then Kelly pays off Tiffany Hawkins, one of the people that testified against him,

00:21:09.940 who alleges the singer engaged in a three-year sexual relationship with her in 1991 when she was 15 and he was 24.

00:21:18.500 Fucking up, bro.

00:21:26.380 Kelly would often cruise high schools and the rock and roll McDonald's and the Evergreen Plaza shopping mall.

00:21:33.580 Yeah, so Kelly, guys, just so you know, he went to Kenwood High School in Chicago and there was a McDonald's in that area as well.

00:21:40.140 And he would always be there when he was starting to blow up in the 90s recruiting girls, you know, that were high school age, which is very stupid.

00:21:49.160 But, yep.

00:21:49.480 Kelly once again settles out of court with former Epoch Records intern, Tracy Sampson, another person that came forward as a witness.

00:21:59.920 You accused him of beginning a sexual relationship with her when she was 17.

00:22:03.040 And then February 2002, as Kelly prepares to perform at the Winter Olympics, the Chicago Sun-Times reports on a video sent to them, allegedly showing Kelly engaging in sex, urinating on an underage girl.

00:22:18.100 And that's where all the jokes come from with, I'm going to pee on you.

00:22:26.900 Okay.

00:22:27.260 That's where it all comes from, guys.

00:22:29.280 I said, okay, but five bucks.

00:22:30.260 I ain't going to lie.

00:22:30.760 I'm going to still step in the name of love.

00:22:34.820 Yo, y'all niggas. 1.00

00:22:37.000 Yo, that's another hit song that he had.

00:22:39.200 Step in the name of love.

00:22:40.260 That's a good song.

00:22:41.440 Step in the name of love.

00:22:43.300 Yeah, man.

00:22:44.280 Yo, you guys are like literally bringing me down memory lane right now.

00:22:47.220 Like, just all these hit songs that he had, bro.

00:22:50.080 It's really sad that this shit had to happen and this dude couldn't fucking control himself and had to deal with young ass chicks. 1.00

00:22:55.660 Yo, real talk.

00:22:56.780 I'm going to say this.

00:22:59.040 If he had just dealt with of age women, he probably wouldn't be in the shitty position he's in right now. 1.00

00:23:06.500 You know what I mean?

00:23:06.920 That's the uncomfortable truth.

00:23:08.200 This fucking guy, right, was over here dealing with chicks that were too goddamn young. 1.00

00:23:13.380 Like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?

00:23:15.060 What are you doing?

00:23:15.880 You know, if these women were of age, probably a lot of this stuff, or if he did get charged, it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.

00:23:24.740 But, dude, you mess around with kids, you're cruising for a bruising, man.

00:23:27.820 Fucking dummy.

00:23:30.700 Okay?

00:23:31.500 The girl's aunt identifies her niece saying she would have been 14 at the time, while Kelly publicly denies he is the man in the video.

00:23:38.320 And then there was rumors also that Kelly wanted to get his brother to take responsibility and say that he was the guy in the video doing it.

00:23:47.680 And who's going to pay him 50K?

00:23:49.120 Do you remember that in the documentary?

00:23:50.300 I remember that.

00:23:50.840 Yeah.

00:23:52.240 Because they do look fairly similar.

00:23:55.400 So, 2002, Kelly pays an undisclosed amount to Patrice Jones, who claims the singer impregnated her when she was 16, who claims to be the singer, forced her to have an abortion.

00:24:05.560 Well, can't do that now.

00:24:06.540 Shout out to Roe v. Wade, right?

00:24:07.680 Getting overturned.

00:24:08.900 Can't do that shit no more, my friend.

00:24:12.240 You know?

00:24:13.680 Kelly again settles out of court with a woman who accuses the singer of filming her during sex without her consent.

00:24:21.060 Guys, this is so big.

00:24:24.060 A lot of you guys, you know, will do some dumb shit where you're recording a chick when you're smashing or whatever.

00:24:28.540 Understand, guys, that that's a felony in a lot of states.

00:24:31.120 Okay?

00:24:31.560 You can't do that shit.

00:24:33.140 I get it.

00:24:34.100 We live in a Me Too era.

00:24:35.400 These women are crazy. 1.00

00:24:36.480 They might try to accuse you of some bullshit.

00:24:37.880 It happens.

00:24:39.240 Just ask for permission.

00:24:40.780 Do you mind if I record this fornication?

00:24:44.460 Don't say it like that.

00:24:45.360 But you get what I'm saying.

00:24:46.280 Do you mind if I, hey, I'm going to record whatever it may be?

00:24:49.300 Let her know, bro.

00:24:50.040 And if she says no, then don't record.

00:24:51.600 Okay?

00:24:52.140 Don't get yourself in trouble for fucking voyeurism, guys.

00:24:54.200 It's a felony in a lot of states.

00:24:56.300 All right?

00:24:59.760 That means you were guilty.

00:25:01.400 Why'd you settle?

00:25:02.400 I had a lot of good things in my life going on musically.

00:25:04.920 So they're asking him at BAT, why did you settle?

00:25:07.140 It's not a good time to go to court over something like that.

00:25:10.600 So if you settle, it'd be better.

00:25:11.920 Okay, now being objective here, most lawsuits do end in settling.

00:25:15.620 So I don't know why he's saying that, trying to say, you know, people assume that you're

00:25:18.380 guilty when you settle.

00:25:19.440 I mean, we know Kobe Bryant, for example, did not rape that girl in Colorado.

00:25:23.500 But he settled because he was, they didn't do the criminal case.

00:25:27.120 They dropped the charges.

00:25:27.740 But she still sued him civilly back in, I think, 0405.

00:25:31.360 And he settled.

00:25:32.060 He gave her an undisclosed amount of money.

00:25:33.280 Why?

00:25:33.500 Because you don't want to deal with the fucking headaches, man.

00:25:35.380 And then going to trial, right?

00:25:37.360 It's going to cost, sometimes it costs more money to go to trial than it does to just pay

00:25:41.760 the settlement and be done with it.

00:25:43.220 So this is why people settle, man.

00:25:44.760 Most civil cases do end in civil, they don't end in litigation, they end in settlement.

00:25:51.620 Okay, so June 20, 2002.

00:25:55.860 Okay, he's indicted in Chicago on 21 counts of making child pornography.

00:26:01.160 R. Kelly, goddammit.

00:26:09.100 See, I guess he took the advice too literally.

00:26:11.080 Yeah, let me record myself fucking banging kids.

00:26:13.180 You fuck it.

00:26:14.760 Guys, I mean, this is just common sense.

00:26:22.320 But bro, guys, ask these girls for their fucking IDs, bro. 1.00

00:26:26.680 Like, literally, ask these girls for their... 1.00

00:26:27.980 If they say they're 18, 19, 20, whatever, ask for their fucking IDs, guys.

00:26:32.160 Like, seriously, I don't give a fuck.

00:26:33.320 I've done it before, you know?

00:26:35.400 I've messed with, like, an 18, 19-year-old, and then they're like, I'm 18, 19, I'm of age.

00:26:38.700 I'll be like, I don't give a fuck.

00:26:39.460 Let me see your ID.

00:26:40.500 I literally will look at that shit, make sure it's real.

00:26:43.080 But bro, do not put yourself in a shitty situation.

00:26:47.460 And the other thing too, you guys got to understand, a lot of states, right?

00:26:50.540 Like, you not knowing her age or her lying to you is not a defense, okay?

00:26:57.360 One more time, man.

00:27:01.280 This shit could save your life.

00:27:02.880 Guys, if there's one thing you're going to take away from this, you know, podcast and, you know, besides, you know, our entertainment here of R. Kelly doing stupid shit in the 90s and early 2000s, there's one thing you can take away from this.

00:27:14.000 Because a lot of states, guys, they don't give a fuck if the girl lied to you. 0.94

00:27:18.060 They don't care if the family lied to you.

00:27:19.560 They don't care if you even looked at the ID and it was real, or sorry, it was fake, and you didn't know it was fake.

00:27:26.380 If the girl was underage, you will not have a defense of saying, I didn't know or she lied.

00:27:32.120 Okay, let that sink in.

00:27:35.740 So if she lies to you, bangs you, you find out after the fact that she was young, you can still be criminally charged, guys.

00:27:44.400 Okay?

00:27:45.940 Protect yourself.

00:27:46.820 Don't be an idiot.

00:27:48.220 When you deal with younger women, you need to ask for a goddamn ID. 1.00

00:27:51.900 Hell, ask Denise for hers. 1.00

00:27:53.020 And I saw that she was born in 1942.

00:27:56.900 And I was like, fantastic.

00:27:58.820 Just kidding.

00:27:59.500 But real talk, guys.

00:28:00.260 You found me in a home.

00:28:01.240 Yeah, I picked her up at an ALF.

00:28:03.900 Yeah.

00:28:04.240 As a matter of fact, I met her at Dunkin' Donuts.

00:28:06.560 I saw that she was getting a senior discount.

00:28:07.980 I said, bro, hook a brother up.

00:28:09.400 I need some black coffee, too.

00:28:10.840 But real talk, guys.

00:28:11.860 Don't do what R. Kelly's doing here.

00:28:13.700 Deal with girls of age. 1.00

00:28:15.040 I don't give a fuck.

00:28:15.620 And if they're too close to, like, 18 or whatever, or 19, 20, whatever the hell it is, ask for fucking ID.

00:28:21.420 Ask for it.

00:28:22.540 Okay?

00:28:22.940 Don't play with this shit.

00:28:29.560 Yeah, look.

00:28:30.580 Urinating on other girls.

00:28:31.580 Days later, singer is arrested by Miami Police Department on the Chicago warrant.

00:28:34.920 Okay?

00:28:35.200 And images of Kelly having sex with an undisclosed girl are found in his home.

00:28:39.320 Kelly is charged in Florida with 12 counts of child pornography, which are dropped when a judge rules there was insufficient evidence for the search.

00:28:45.660 So, he got charged, guys, on this child pornography stuff, right, which I told you guys before, and he was acquitted.

00:28:52.920 They're going to retry him August 15th for that in Chicago federally now.

00:28:57.160 Now, that presents the potential issue of double jeopardy, which I'm going to play here.

00:29:02.680 This attorney kind of breaks it down pretty well.

00:29:05.100 Now, what is double jeopardy, guys?

00:29:06.120 Double jeopardy is essentially you can't be tried for the same crime twice.

00:29:10.120 So, the state charged him with possession of child pornography, failed, he was acquitted.

00:29:15.380 Now, the feds have pretty much taken the case, and now they're going to charge him with the same thing.

00:29:20.340 So, his defense might be able to actually present something here to get him off on these charges on a double jeopardy defense.

00:29:28.820 So, let's go ahead and see what this attorney has to say.

00:29:35.140 Reaction to this, are you surprised?

00:29:38.680 I'm not at all surprised.

00:29:40.360 These were very heavy sentences, but this has been a bad two days for the rich and famous Ms. Maxwell yesterday and R. Kelly today are both in effect sentences.

00:29:50.820 Yes, Ghislaine Maxwell got 20 years, guys, and R. Kelly got 30 years.

00:29:53.880 ... sentenced to life in prison, and the size of R. Kelly's sentence, which exceeded the amount that the government was demanding, didn't really come as a surprise to me, given the fact that he, unusually enough, he was convicted of violations of the racketeering statute, what we commonly call the RICO statute, which...

00:30:16.920 And you guys, you guys have been watching me for a while now.

00:30:18.980 You pretty much know what RICO is.

00:30:20.200 RICO is an effective way to target criminal organizations and charge everyone under the same umbrella.

00:30:25.660 You get stiffer sentencing, you get stiffer penalties, and it's easier to charge.

00:30:31.120 And on top of that, a lot of the times, you're able to beat the statute of limitations.

00:30:35.500 Why?

00:30:35.720 Because if you're able to show, because you guys can see, a lot of these crimes happened 20, 30 years ago, but they're able to bring it back and charge him, because under racketeering, all they need to show is that there's a pattern of criminal activity occurring over a period of time, and then, bam, they can get over the statute of limitations.

00:30:50.040 It carries enormous penalties, so it was no surprise to me.

00:30:54.500 So, Paul, as you pointed out, prosecutors were asking for 25 years, the judge issued a higher sentence than that.

00:31:04.040 Why do you think that the prosecution didn't ask for a higher sentence, considering what you said?

00:31:08.440 And how often does that happen, that the judge exceeds the prosecution's recommendations?

00:31:13.160 It does happen fairly frequently.

00:31:16.540 You have to remember that judges sit there through the entire trial.

00:31:21.160 They are, except for...

00:31:22.580 And just so you guys know, the reason why he got 30 years is because he didn't plead guilty.

00:31:25.800 He went to trial, guys.

00:31:27.000 When you go to trial, all right, what's going to happen is the government, and I can tell you guys this from personal experience, nobody else on YouTube can tell y'all this.

00:31:34.760 Because I have prepared for a federal criminal trial before, okay?

00:31:38.380 And I'll break this case down for y'all, but long story short, I had a case one time where we caught this human smuggler.

00:31:43.400 He got caught smuggling a bunch of aliens into the United States, and he put the aliens in danger, and he was facing quite a bit of time, and this was like his third time getting arrested for this offense.

00:31:52.900 So he said, fuck it, I'm going to trial.

00:31:55.260 So he goes to trial, right?

00:31:56.620 If he had just pled guilty, he would have got significantly less time because he would have got a plea bargain.

00:32:01.460 In most cases, guys, especially in the federal system, are pretty much settled through a plea bargain where the guy says, all right, I'll plead guilty, I'll give a statement of my guilt, and in exchange for the government not having to waste time and money preparing for trial, I will get a lesser sentence.

00:32:16.940 This guy decided to go to trial.

00:32:18.560 Let me tell you guys what happens when you go to fucking trial.

00:32:20.540 Now, as the case agent, you essentially become the prosecutor's bitch, all right? 0.88

00:32:25.220 I'm going to say it, I'm going to fuck, and it is the truth.

00:32:28.200 Once you go to trial, it's your job to gather all the evidence, gather all the witnesses, corral everyone up, get all the agents that were involved in search warrants, whatever it may be.

00:32:38.060 You're going to go and get them all ready and bring them to the U.S. attorney's office, have the attorney prep everyone up, have all the documents ready, help them with discovery, all that stuff, okay?

00:32:47.180 You have to arm the prosecutor with everything they need to win the trial, okay?

00:32:53.620 Because when you go to trial, all right, now you have to prove in front of a jury through due process and everything else like that, that this person is not just guilty, but they're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which is a very high burden to prove, okay?

00:33:07.560 Okay, so when you're there, you're responsible for making sure that AUSA has everything they need, because remember, guys, AUSAs don't really have arrest authority like that.

00:33:17.580 You know, they're considered a law enforcement officer of the United States to a degree, but they don't really go out and interview people and gather witnesses.

00:33:23.220 That's the agent's job.

00:33:24.440 So you have to go do that stuff.

00:33:25.820 So the fact that Kelly, right, R. Kelly went to trial, they had to prepare 30 years' worth of evidence against him.

00:33:34.440 And then on top of that, he never admitted to any of the crimes.

00:33:37.640 He never gave an apology.

00:33:39.020 He denied everything.

00:33:40.400 So the government looks at it like, okay, you're not going to admit guilt.

00:33:44.180 You're not going to plea bargain.

00:33:45.500 You're going to make us go through the process of trial and proving you wrong.

00:33:48.440 Well, guess what?

00:33:49.440 Now you're going to feel the full force of the U.S. government, and you're going to go ahead and get as much time as possible.

00:33:56.060 That is more than likely why the judge gave him more time, okay, than what the prosecutors wanted.

00:34:03.860 Hope you guys enjoyed that.

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00:34:07.780 Ruling on objections to evidence.

00:34:10.500 They form their own impressions of the evidence, of the witnesses.

00:34:15.980 They're staring at the defendants.

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00:35:21.020 All right, so let's continue on.

00:35:21.840 We're talking about R. Kelly here and his charges.

00:35:24.920 And judges do have, even in the federal courts, much more so in the state courts, judges do have discretion to exceed what we call the sentencing guidelines.

00:35:38.960 And this particular judge is not known as a harsh sentencer, but she's a very attentive judge.

00:35:47.240 And she must have formed some very distinct reactions to this.

00:35:52.120 And the government had, like, 40 witnesses against him, guys.

00:35:54.940 It was pretty bad, which is why it's very difficult to believe him, you know?

00:35:59.680 Kelly's demeanor, his constant substitution of lawyers, I think that tended to cut against him.

00:36:07.720 Okay, why would that cut against him?

00:36:09.660 Because anytime the defendant goes ahead and gets other attorneys or whatever, it pushes the entire judicial process back, guys, okay?

00:36:18.040 So he's delaying, right, due process.

00:36:22.120 And obviously, to keep a case going and prepare for trial and everything else like that, guys, it costs money.

00:36:26.420 You've got to fly these witnesses.

00:36:27.680 Like, it's a logistical nightmare, guys, from the case agent perspective and the U.S. Attorney's Office perspective to have a case like this where you've got to fly in 40-plus witnesses who are all over the fucking country, maybe the world.

00:36:40.360 You've got to put them up in hotels.

00:36:41.860 You've got to pay for their food.

00:36:43.160 It's extremely labor-intensive to do this, okay?

00:36:46.560 You've got to protect them, all this stuff.

00:36:48.360 So it is not easy to go to trial.

00:36:51.000 And then with someone like R. Kelly, where this is going to get a lot of media attention, it becomes an even bigger spectacle, okay?

00:36:56.620 So they've got to pay the Federal Protective Service quite a bit of money.

00:37:01.560 The marshals are on high alert because when you have a big case like this, it's very expensive to fund it.

00:37:09.120 Again, the basic principle would be that she, the judge in the Kelly case, was applying that driving force of the racketeering statute, which was not an element in Ms. Maxwell's sentencing yesterday.

00:37:26.620 Well, Kelly.

00:37:27.340 Yes, and that is why, for all you guys that are saying, yo, America's racist or whatever, why did Ghislaine Maxwell get less time than R. Kelly?

00:37:34.460 The reason why she got less time, guys, is because R. Kelly, they got him under RICO, guys.

00:37:39.980 When you go under RICO, it's going to be a very bad time for you, my friends.

00:37:47.600 This is the law.

00:37:48.680 The RICO statute, guys, is the same law that's put pretty much the entire La Cosa Nostra, mafia, blood gangs, Casanova, 6-9, the mafia, a lot of these gangs that you guys are seeing getting, like, sweeping indictments on.

00:38:04.780 These are all RICO cases.

00:38:06.940 RICO does not fuck around.

00:38:09.020 They're extremely difficult to do from the case agent perspective to get them approved.

00:38:12.440 You've got to get it approved through U.S. Department of Justice.

00:38:14.060 But once you get it approved, man, you're going to serve a lot of time if they convict you of it.

00:38:19.560 He has replaced his legal team since he was convicted.

00:38:23.520 He is now represented by the same attorney who helped get Bill Cosby's conviction overturned.

00:38:28.220 What does that suggest, Paul, about his strategy?

00:38:30.600 You've got Bill Cosby's attorney.

00:38:32.800 Well, his strategy seems to be all over the place.

00:38:35.220 If you look at the docket sheet, which is publicly available, Kelly has substituted attorneys with great frequency.

00:38:44.260 He has a right to do that.

00:38:46.800 He does.

00:38:47.740 Certainly, if he believes that by bringing in new lawyers at this late date, just before the sentencing, he's throwing a Hail Mary pass.

00:39:02.700 Because the record is already set.

00:39:04.900 The sentencing memoranda of both sides were already submitted, and the judge had probably already made her decision.

00:39:12.780 Certainly, Kelly is going to appeal.

00:39:16.040 Certainly, Ms. Maxwell will appeal. 0.95

00:39:19.340 But the unfortunate part for both of them is that convictions in federal court are very infrequently reversed.

00:39:29.340 And speaking of federal court, Paul Kelly is facing a separate federal trial in Chicago for child pornography.

00:39:36.480 Okay, so this is the second case that I told you guys.

00:39:38.240 So he got convicted in New York City, right, in Brooklyn.

00:39:40.320 And this courthouse, actually, guys, that's the courthouse in Brooklyn.

00:39:44.480 I've been there before.

00:39:45.480 I arrested someone one time.

00:39:47.800 And I arrested him in New York.

00:39:50.840 I arrested him in LaGuardia Airport.

00:39:52.980 And I'm going to break this case down.

00:39:54.240 I got some footage for y'all, too, that I'll show you guys.

00:39:55.800 It was really cool.

00:39:56.940 But when you arrest him in LaGuardia Airport, that falls into the Eastern District of New York.

00:40:01.200 And I went ahead and took him to court.

00:40:03.860 We indicted him out of Miami, but he was in LaGuardia trying to flee the country.

00:40:07.100 We caught him at the airport right at the terminal.

00:40:08.440 And obviously, when you arrest him, you have to bring him in front of a judge within 24 to 72 hours.

00:40:14.960 So I actually took him to this courthouse right here in Brooklyn.

00:40:17.180 It's right by the Brooklyn Bridge.

00:40:18.160 It's a very nice area.

00:40:19.820 And I presented him in front of the judge to get his charges right to him.

00:40:24.260 So this is a nice courthouse here.

00:40:26.120 I've been here myself.

00:40:26.760 Yo, and by the way, I'm looking at the goddamn thing.

00:40:32.080 We only got 688 likes.

00:40:33.680 Guys, first of all, like the video.

00:40:36.320 Because no one's going to give you guys insight like this on YouTube when it comes to breaking down federal cases.

00:40:42.400 Name another YouTube channel where someone actually was out in these streets doing these kinds of cases,

00:40:47.800 arresting cases, arresting people that can give you guys insight and knowledge to this level of detail.

00:40:53.460 I'll wait.

00:40:59.780 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:00.940 So like the video, guys.

00:41:02.360 You don't have to donate a dollar.

00:41:03.700 Just like the video because it takes me quite a bit of time to prepare for these cases.

00:41:07.020 So that's all I ask.

00:41:08.160 So now we're going to go into the second case now in August, guys, that he's going to go to trial for the child pornography charges in Chicago.

00:41:17.600 So another district indicted him for child pornography out there.

00:41:21.560 It's expected to start in August.

00:41:24.000 Is today's sentencing going to impact that trial at all?

00:41:29.280 It's an open question to me, quite frankly, Tanya.

00:41:32.260 And I don't want to get overly technical.

00:41:34.440 Kelly was acquitted.

00:41:36.340 The answer is no, it can't affect them.

00:41:38.040 You cannot use other charges from another district against him as evidence.

00:41:43.520 So the answer to that is no.

00:41:46.360 But he's going to get into what his defense team should do.

00:41:49.380 Remember, this guy's a defense attorney.

00:41:50.600 So he just, you know, that my man just dodged that question like a fucking ninja.

00:41:54.920 By a state court on the charges for which he is now going to be tried in the federal court in Illinois.

00:42:02.080 So, number one, I would have the issue as his lawyer of whether or not he was facing double jeopardy.

00:42:08.040 In fact, being tried, tried twice for the same offense.

00:42:12.400 And it may well be that, given the sentence here in New York against Kelly, the proceeding in federal court in Illinois, in Chicago, may well disappear.

00:42:28.860 I'm not making that prediction, but that does often happen.

00:42:34.340 Interesting.

00:42:34.740 Yeah, I'm actually very intrigued as to how they were able to put this case against him as well, knowing that he beat the case in Illinois.

00:42:44.220 But there are rumors that he paid off jurors and all this other stuff.

00:42:46.540 So if that was the case, they might be able to bring those charges against against him.

00:42:50.740 The situation here in New York.

00:42:52.780 Does R. Kelly have a route for an appeal?

00:42:56.020 Do you see a basis for that, given the facts of the case?

00:43:00.660 Well, he has.

00:43:03.080 He actually has.

00:43:04.780 I'll put aside the pornographic element of all of this, which is horrendous.

00:43:11.780 But as a technical matter, and I don't want to, you know, hack in the weeds, I think he may have a stronger basis for an appeal of the racketeering conviction.

00:43:23.160 Because essential to establishing a racketeering conviction are a few elements.

00:43:30.360 But in order to do that, you as the government have to show that the victim was damaged in his or her business or property.

00:43:40.920 And it seems to me from the start, a glaring omission here has been the lack of an impact.

00:43:50.600 Well, I don't doubt the suffering of these young women and now grown women.

00:43:56.320 This is an interesting point that he's about to bring up here, guys.

00:43:58.640 So let's brace ourselves for this one.

00:44:01.440 Also, I got to stop it so that I don't get hit with any type of copyright from CBS.

00:44:05.340 CBS does a lot of things wrong.

00:44:07.000 But when they interview people like this, this is when it can be a little bit better.

00:44:09.360 Because at least, like, they're bringing in someone that's, like, an expert and he can give an opinion.

00:44:13.340 And this guy, he's pretty accurate with what he's saying, you know, as a defense attorney.

00:44:17.960 But significantly omitted from the proof was what were the money damages sustained by the victims?

00:44:27.980 And Kelly may have a fairly strong argument along those lines, in which case the subject...

00:44:37.500 And what he means by that, guys, is you need to be able to articulate damages that you had.

00:44:40.440 So, like, for example, when they indicted the mafia, right, and they were able to get them for loan sharking and, you know, extortion, all the other stuff, they were able to establish from witnesses and businesses and all these other entities, yo, the mafia ripped me off for $10,000 every month.

00:44:54.420 I had to pay them in extortion fees or they were running gambling rackets where they were making this amount of money or they were loan sharking me this amount of money, which loan sharking is basically giving you a loan on an extremely high interest rate, you know, maybe 50% lend you $1,000.

00:45:09.440 All right, motherfucker, if you don't bring my fucking money by tomorrow, you're going to be sleeping with the fishes, 50% interest, asshole, like some type of shit like that, right?

00:45:15.680 So, it's all tangible because it's related to money.

00:45:19.100 In this situation, it's a little bit more ambiguous because he's bringing girls in, banging them under the potential, you know, the potential that they'll be his girlfriend or maybe get a record deal or whatever.

00:45:29.900 It's extremely unclear where the damages are with them.

00:45:33.980 Obviously, there's emotional damage, right?

00:45:35.680 Of course, right?

00:45:36.320 As you would say, Chris's favorite sound effect.

00:45:40.260 Emotional damage!

00:45:41.540 But it's very difficult to be able to articulate that in a tangible fashion, okay?

00:45:48.580 That does not mean that the victims are less credible.

00:45:51.140 That does not mean that the victims did not deal with trauma.

00:45:55.680 It's just very difficult to judge that from the RICO perspective because with the RICO charge, a lot of the times, you need to establish damages.

00:46:05.140 And a lot of the time, that comes from some type of monetary amount.

00:46:07.840 That's why it was so easy to go after the mafia because when they were running the labor rackets and everything else like that, they were able to easily show that the mafia was making this amount of money.

00:46:17.660 They were extorting this amount.

00:46:18.920 They were loan sharking on this amount of interest, this amount of much money, blah, blah, blah, all that other stuff.

00:46:23.700 Because with the mafia, the money had to be made.

00:46:26.480 Once the money was made, it would be kicked up to the boss, underboss, all the way up to the top guy.

00:46:30.580 And there was a money chain, right?

00:46:32.980 But here, with this situation, it's not as clear-cut and defined.

00:46:38.240 Substance wouldn't be reversed, but the case might well be sent back for the government to have another try at establishing that critical element of loss, of monetary or financial loss.

00:46:51.160 All right, Paul Batista, if you could stand by for one moment.

00:46:53.520 We also want to bring in CBS News national correspondent, Rican.

00:46:55.860 Okay, so we're going to go ahead and read the DOJ press release here, guys.

00:47:00.620 Okay, so R. Kelly convicted of all counts by a federal grand jury, by a federal jury in Brooklyn.

00:47:05.880 Just so you guys know, by the way, anytime that you are looking up a federal, you want to check out a federal case, whatever it may be, always come to the usdoj.gov website.

00:47:15.400 As you guys can see, this is the official joint because it's justice.gov.

00:47:18.160 Okay, this is the U.S. Attorney's website.

00:47:19.800 Each district, and this is the Eastern District of New York, which is in Brooklyn.

00:47:22.540 Okay, you got the Southern District of New York, which we've talked about them quite a bit.

00:47:25.160 One of the most aggressive judicial districts in the United States.

00:47:28.360 And then you got the Eastern District of New York, which is in Brooklyn.

00:47:30.600 The Southern District of New York is based in Manhattan.

00:47:32.840 All right.

00:47:34.100 Kelly found guilty of racketeering and multiple predicate acts, including illegal sex with minors, sexual exploitation of minors, bribery, coercion, and forced labor.

00:47:44.320 Robert Sylvester Kelly, which I didn't know.

00:47:45.880 Actually, you know, before I read this thing, let's go ahead and hit some of these chats real fast.

00:47:52.140 Where are we at here?

00:47:55.160 Thank you guys so much for donations.

00:47:56.360 I appreciate it.

00:47:56.820 I'm actually going to go to the first one.

00:47:58.440 You're going to go to the first one?

00:47:59.280 Okay.

00:48:00.220 Highlight it.

00:48:01.040 And then also, guys, the likes, guys, I'm looking right now.

00:48:03.940 We got 2.1K of you guys watching right now.

00:48:06.540 Get me to at least 2K likes, guys.

00:48:08.900 Get us to 100% engagement because these types of videos, you know, we need to get them up in the algorithm.

00:48:13.280 Life Choices goes, 20 bucks.

00:48:14.600 Are you going to do the human smuggling case from San Antonio?

00:48:18.180 I might do it.

00:48:19.040 Yes, I might do it.

00:48:21.260 Matter of fact, an agent that I used to work with that was my supervisor, he's actually going to be involved in that case.

00:48:27.160 So, and as you guys know, I started my career in Laredo, Texas.

00:48:30.500 Pretty much when I was doing those human smuggling cases in Laredo, guys, the aliens almost always were going to San Antonio.

00:48:35.420 So I have a very deep, intimate knowledge of how human smuggling works in that area of the United States.

00:48:40.120 And this is not the first time that I've seen a tractor trailer.

00:48:43.640 Back in 2016, when I was in Laredo, Texas, we had another case where we had like 70 of them in an tractor trailer and a bunch of them, even more of them died.

00:48:51.240 Okay?

00:48:51.640 This is why I have zero, you know, sympathy for people that come to the United States and cry and complain that they can't get your debt.

00:48:57.480 Sorry, for U.S. citizens that live here and can't get shit done. 1.00

00:49:01.340 All right?

00:49:01.740 Because I've seen some of the worst stuff.

00:49:03.480 But I'm not going to go on a rant here on Fit It.

00:49:05.080 That's on the Fresh Fish Show.

00:49:06.740 Monkey D, you saw 10 bucks.

00:49:08.080 Step, step, side to side, round and round, dip it now, separate, bring it back.

00:49:14.160 Let me see you do the love slide. 1.00

00:49:16.580 That's what you got, bro.

00:49:19.240 Yes, I remember that as well, man.

00:49:21.140 Anything else here?

00:49:22.740 Markwee912, honey love makes sense now that what is the color of honey?

00:49:28.240 I'm confused by that comment.

00:49:30.980 I guess she means like the pea color.

00:49:33.560 I don't get it.

00:49:36.280 I don't know.

00:49:36.940 Oh, okay.

00:49:37.480 I don't know.

00:49:37.920 Because I was like from a long time ago.

00:49:38.780 It probably had to do with, yeah, maybe.

00:49:39.640 Because we were talking about that earlier and then that's when she wrote it.

00:49:42.040 I remember I had to sing the world's greatest by R. Kelly for my grade school graduation.

00:49:45.420 Really?

00:49:45.760 Oh, shit.

00:49:46.900 Okay.

00:49:48.100 And then once again, guys, dollar cost crypto with the $100 super chat from earlier.

00:49:51.880 I need you guys to like the video, man.

00:49:53.300 Okay.

00:49:53.660 Hit the damn like button. 0.71

00:49:54.740 You don't got to spend a damn dime.

00:49:56.180 Just like the video, man.

00:49:57.320 Because like I said before, this stuff is all about educating you guys, giving you guys another perspective.

00:50:02.960 And just so you guys know, by the way, it was not the FBI that arrested R. Kelly.

00:50:06.000 It was actually Homeland Security Investigations, which is the agency that I used to work for.

00:50:09.720 Yes, they investigate sex trafficking as well, guys.

00:50:12.380 All right?

00:50:13.380 This was not an FBI case.

00:50:14.880 I want to be extremely clear about that.

00:50:15.980 And you guys are going to see that here in a second.

00:50:17.680 So let's go back to the press release from the DOJ.

00:50:25.840 Okay.

00:50:28.560 Okay.

00:50:29.640 It was convicted today by R&B singer R. Kelly was convicted today by a federal grand jury in Brooklyn of all nine counts of superseding indictment charging him with racketeering predicated on criminal conduct, including sexual exploitation of children, forced labor, and the Mann Act violations involving the coercion and transportation of women and girls in interstate commerce to engage in sexual activity, illegal sexual activity.

00:50:51.440 The verdict followed six weeks of trial before United States District Judge Ann M. Donnelly.

00:50:57.580 So, guys, just so you guys know, for some of you guys that are wondering, yo, how are the feds able to pick this shit up?

00:51:02.340 The reason why, guys, is because the violations involving the coercion and transportation of women and girls in interstate commerce. 1.00

00:51:10.280 See this magic word here, guys?

00:51:12.320 Interstate commerce.

00:51:13.920 Right?

00:51:14.200 This is your worst nightmare as a criminal right here.

00:51:18.000 This is what gives the feds jurisdiction to go ahead and take over these types of investigations. 0.91

00:51:22.520 Once he started, like, using the phone to get girls to come and hang out with them or, you know, using people to recruit the girls or whatever and having them travel state lines and everything else like that, boom.

00:51:32.180 Now the feds can come in and do the investigation.

00:51:35.240 And we know when the feds come, it's going to be a bad time for you, more than likely.

00:51:38.840 All right?

00:51:42.440 Jacqueline Casoulis, acting United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.

00:51:47.240 So that's the top prosecutor.

00:51:48.860 All right?

00:51:49.440 And Peter C. Fitzberg, special agent in charge, online security investigations, New York, announced the verdict.

00:51:53.580 See?

00:51:54.060 So how do I – remember, guys?

00:51:55.320 I always teach you guys this.

00:51:56.900 When you come over to the main thing on usdoj.gov and you're reading these articles, always look at, like, who – it doesn't matter who the U.S. attorney is because, like, every jurisdiction has a U.S. attorney.

00:52:07.880 But to figure out which agency actually did the investigation, it's the first person that makes the announcement.

00:52:13.480 So in this case, it was HSI New York that did the case.

00:52:16.300 These are the same guys that did the 6ix9ine case as well, HSI New York.

00:52:20.820 And then today's guilty verdict forever brands R. Kelly as a predator who used his fame and fortune to prey on the young, the vulnerable, and the voiceless for his own sexual gratification, stated acting U.S. Attorney Casoulis.

00:52:33.220 A predator who used his inner circle to ensnare underage teenage girls and young women and men for decades in a sordid web of sexual abuse, exploitation, and degradation.

00:52:43.320 Yes, he did actually abuse a man as well – a boy, allegedly, guys, according to the indictment in the trial.

00:52:50.180 The victims in this case, your voices were heard, and justice was finally served.

00:52:53.440 We hope that today's verdict brings some measure of comfort and disclosure to the victims.

00:52:56.880 Ms. Casoulis also thanked the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Illinois and the Cook County State Attorney's Office for their assistance with the case.

00:53:04.260 Remember, guys, they had all the original documents.

00:53:06.880 As proven at trial for nearly three decades, Kelly was a leader of a criminal enterprise, the enterprise, consisting of himself and an entourage of individuals who served as managers, bodyguards, accountants, drivers, personal assistants, and runners for the defendant.

00:53:23.000 As the leader of the enterprise, Kelly used his fame to recruit women and girls to engage in illegal sexual activity with him.

00:53:29.560 Kelly identified these girls and women at concerts and then directed members of the enterprise to escort them backstage following his musical performances.

00:53:36.680 Kelly exchanged contact information with girls and women so that he and other members of the enterprise could arrange travel and lodging for them to visit Kelly and engage in the charged illegal sexual conduct.

00:53:45.660 See, this is where Kelly fucked up right here. 1.00

00:53:47.220 This is what all music artists do, by the way, guys.

00:53:51.220 Fucking any big music artists that you know, this is what they do.

00:53:54.840 They don't go up to the girl themselves and talk to them.

00:53:57.040 They always get their member of their entourage to go and talk to the girl for them. 0.99

00:54:00.320 Hey, you want to come backstage?

00:54:01.360 You want to chill?

00:54:01.820 Whatever it may be.

00:54:02.340 And this is to protect, you know, the artist from, you know, looking thirsty or anything like that.

00:54:07.240 Right?

00:54:07.420 Protect this image.

00:54:08.420 However, where Kelly fucked up here was he was doing this shit with underage fucking girls, man. 1.00

00:54:14.400 Now, a lot of these girls, he would promise the parents that he would go ahead and help them with their music career, make them famous, get them some exposure, whatever it is.

00:54:26.140 And that's where he fucked up.

00:54:29.220 If these were of age women, he would have been fine. 1.00

00:54:32.540 But he had to do it with young girls, which is why he's suffering the consequences that he's facing now.

00:54:38.660 The evidence at trial included the testimony of 45 government witnesses.

00:54:43.600 Gotcha, bitch. 1.00

00:54:44.180 Like, holy fuck.

00:54:45.060 Oh, shit.

00:54:45.660 Oh, shit.

00:54:46.140 Including more than 10 victims, five of whom are named in the superseding indictment.

00:54:50.720 Not to mention, guys, the government had a bunch of people that were on his staff that testified against him.

00:54:56.960 Okay?

00:54:57.180 People that worked for him, his own family, his accountant.

00:55:01.140 All these people testified against Kelly that he was basically running an organization to conceal his criminal activity, which is why they were able to come at him for the racketeering and saying it was an enterprise.

00:55:14.560 Do you have anything on that, Denise?

00:55:16.540 No.

00:55:17.060 You don't want to add?

00:55:17.540 Oh, okay.

00:55:17.860 No, no.

00:55:18.180 Not on.

00:55:18.780 No, I don't.

00:55:19.320 Okay.

00:55:20.220 Can you put some water in this bad boy for me?

00:55:21.860 Yeah.

00:55:22.040 So, text messages, video, and audio recordings, photographs, phone, and travel records, DNA evidence, and expert witnesses.

00:55:30.540 Kelly issued rules that many of his sexual partners were required to follow, including that the women and girls were to call him daddy.

00:55:39.160 They were not permitted to leave their homes or their rooms to eat or visit the bathroom without receiving his permission.

00:55:46.960 They were required to wear baggy clothes when not accompanying Kelly to an event, and they were directed to keep their heads down and not look at or speak to other men.

00:55:53.320 Kelly also isolated the women and girls from their friends and family and made them dependent on him for their financial well-being.

00:56:01.660 He required the victims to engage in sex with him and others and recorded many of the sexual encounters.

00:56:06.920 Fucking holy shit.

00:56:08.020 Stupid.

00:56:09.560 So, here are the charges, guys.

00:56:11.200 And what I'm going to do is I'm going to pull up this indictment for you guys real fast, but we're going to read it from the DOJ thing because it outlines it a lot clearer.

00:56:17.860 But I'm going to, just for educational purposes, I'm going to show you guys what a federal indictment looks like.

00:56:21.600 So, this is out of the Eastern United States District Court, Eastern District of New York, United States of America against R. Kelly.

00:56:30.060 Now, the Enterprise, the defendant Robert Sylvester Kelly, also known as R. Kelly, and individuals who served as managers, bodyguards, drivers, and personal assistants, and runners for Kelly, as well as members of Kelly's entourage, comprised, and enterprise.

00:56:39.980 Now, why the hell are they referring to R. Kelly's organization as an enterprise?

00:56:43.940 The reason why they're referring to it as an enterprise, guys, is because this is critical for racketeering statutes.

00:56:48.600 Remember, they're not necessarily just charging him with sex trafficking.

00:56:52.720 They're charging him with sex trafficking under the premise that it's under RICO, okay, the racketeering act.

00:57:01.360 Okay?

00:57:02.260 The enterprise consisted of an ongoing organization whose members function as a continuing unit for a common purpose of achieving the objectives of the enterprise.

00:57:11.520 The purpose of the enterprise were to promote R. Kelly's music and the R. Kelly brand and to recruit women and girls to engage in legal sexual activity with Kelly.

00:57:19.160 By promoting R. Kelly's music and the R. Kelly brand, the members of the enterprise expected to receive financial opportunities and personal benefits, including increased power and status within the enterprise.

00:57:28.760 Okay?

00:57:29.160 So, like I told you all before, he promised he sold these girls a dream.

00:57:32.300 And in connection with the enterprise, Kelly and other members of the enterprise traveled throughout the United States and abroad to perform at concert venues to promote the R. Kelly brand and to recruit women and girls to engage in sexual activity with Kelly.

00:57:43.780 Bam! 0.98

00:57:44.140 Right there is how the feds got him.

00:57:47.300 He was using, right, the girls and traveling interstate and doing all this extra shit, and that's what gave the feds jurisdiction. 0.96

00:57:53.340 When Kelly attended and performed at concerts and other events, Kelly and or members of the enterprise on Kelly's behalf invited women and girls backstage and to other events following Kelly's live performances.

00:58:03.660 Let me enlarge this for you all a little bit so you guys can see it better on your TV screens.

00:58:07.560 These women and girls were often offered wristbands that signified that they were authorized to attend an event. 0.88

00:58:12.860 There, Kelly relied upon members of the enterprise to ensure that only those authorized to attend were allowed at the event and to manage the flow of women and girls who were directly interacting with Kelly. 0.68

00:58:21.180 When Kelly identified a woman or a girl who he wished to see again, he either gave his contact information to the woman or girl or obtained her contact information or relied upon members of the enterprise to do so.

00:58:30.860 Following these events, Kelly communicated with certain of these women and girls by telephone, including the use of traditional telephone calls, text messages, iMessages, and FaceTime.

00:58:39.580 As part of this communication, Kelly often requested that the women and girls provide them with photographs of themselves.

00:58:45.840 Again, guys, when you use phones, text messages, FaceTime, all that stuff, what does it do?

00:58:51.920 It triggers interstate commerce.

00:58:54.680 That's it, bitch! 1.00

00:58:55.620 Kelly and other members of the enterprise also arranged for the women and girls to travel to see Kelly on occasion, including at concerts throughout the United States and related events.

00:59:02.740 To facilitate their travel, Kelly directed the women and girls to contact a member of the enterprise who then arranged for travel for the women and girls.

00:59:09.240 When the women and girls arrived at the lodging, which was typically selected by a member of the enterprise, a member of the enterprise usually provided them with instructions.

00:59:16.520 In addition, members of the enterprise took steps to ensure that the women and girls did not interact with other women and girls whom Kelly planned to see.

00:59:23.320 So, guys, let's also deal with this elephant in the room.

00:59:27.040 A big part of the reason why a lot of these people cooperated with the government was to not be prosecuted themselves for assisting R. Kelly in doing these criminal activities.

00:59:35.740 Okay?

00:59:37.080 So, they cooperated with the government to avoid prosecution as well.

00:59:41.700 You know, we got to call a spade a fucking spade.

00:59:44.820 Members of the enterprise then arranged for the women and girls to attend this concert to position them such that Kelly could see them during his concerts.

00:59:51.400 Kelly from, and you guys are wondering, well, why are they putting all this stuff in this indictment?

00:59:55.620 The reason, guys, is because they're establishing that it's an enterprise, step one, and then step two, that the enterprise affects interstate commerce.

01:00:01.880 That's why they're talking about using phones.

01:00:03.200 That's why they're talking about travel.

01:00:04.100 That's why they're talking about him providing them lodging.

01:00:06.640 That's why they're talking about members of the enterprise giving them instructions.

01:00:09.900 All this, okay, creates a picture that we have a sophisticated criminal organization that is committing criminal activity while simultaneously, okay, affecting interstate commerce, which now gives the feds jurisdiction.

01:00:26.040 So, the beginning part of this indictment is giving the feds venue.

01:00:29.540 Okay.

01:00:29.840 In addition, members of the enterprise took steps to ensure that the women and girls did not interact with other women and girls whom Kelly planned to see.

01:00:41.400 Members of the enterprise then arranged for the women and girls to attend this concert and position them such that Kelly could see them during his concert.

01:00:46.860 Okay, also, I want to mention this part right here.

01:00:49.020 This is very important, okay, guys?

01:00:50.800 Because the girls all gave very similar testimonies and stories even though they don't necessarily know each other, which actually made Kelly look a lot more guilty.

01:01:00.380 Because if you got a bunch of girls from different places and they're all giving a very similar story, right?

01:01:05.940 Hey, I wasn't permitted to eat at this time or he made me call him daddy or he made me do this or whatever.

01:01:10.660 And a bunch of girls are able to corroborate the same set of facts without knowing each other. 1.00

01:01:14.440 What does that do?

01:01:15.540 That, my friends, is a clue that more than likely your witnesses are telling the truth.

01:01:22.400 When I had a confidential informant, right, you can't necessarily go off of a confidential informant's word alone.

01:01:29.680 You need to be able to corroborate it.

01:01:31.380 So what I would do, right, when I was, and witnesses, cooperating defendants, confidential informants, they're all the same because they're providing you information, okay?

01:01:40.820 However, when you're getting this information, you have to be able to corroborate it through other people.

01:01:45.620 So it would be common where I would interview a confidential informant.

01:01:49.380 I would debrief him, then after I debrief him, I would talk with law enforcement officers, I would talk with other witnesses, I would talk with the criminal himself sometimes, etc.

01:01:59.320 And they would confirm certain things that the informant would say or other witnesses would say.

01:02:04.200 And what you do is you extrapolate, okay, the truth from all these separate interviews from separate people that don't necessarily know each other, okay?

01:02:13.500 That is how you build credibility in witnesses, informants, and cooperating defendants.

01:02:18.560 You never get the story just from them.

01:02:20.260 You get the story from multiple people and that they're able to confirm certain facts, okay, that all of them experienced or saw themselves.

01:02:30.000 That adds another layer of credibility to that person's testimony, okay?

01:02:35.300 Hope you guys are enjoying this, man.

01:02:36.480 I'm giving you a lot of thoughts.

01:02:37.340 Hold on, let me stop the show real quick.

01:02:39.360 How many likes do we got on this thing?

01:02:40.800 Because I'm giving you guys an incredible amount of value right now that you ain't going to get nowhere else.

01:02:46.020 So I need you guys to like the goddamn video.

01:02:48.200 I'll check it on YouTube right now.

01:02:50.360 I'm going to go put like on it right now.

01:02:52.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:52.500 Go.

01:02:52.840 Oh, you didn't even like the video?

01:02:53.800 God damn it.

01:02:54.280 I always put like on your videos.

01:02:57.540 I'm going to check right now, guys.

01:02:58.860 Guys, like the goddamn video.

01:03:00.120 We got 2,300 of you guys watching right now live.

01:03:02.880 We're at 1.3.

01:03:04.280 Guys, I need 2,000.

01:03:06.760 Make sure to mute it.

01:03:07.660 Yeah, I know.

01:03:07.880 I already, I already.

01:03:08.540 Okay.

01:03:09.260 Guys, get me to 2,000 likes, all right?

01:03:12.660 You don't got to spend no goddamn money, man.

01:03:14.660 Just get the likes up.

01:03:15.460 The reason why I want the likes up, guys, is because this video needs to get, you know, out there, all right?

01:03:20.700 So that more people can watch the video, learn, understand federal law, understand how sex trafficking works, how racketeering works, et cetera.

01:03:27.600 Okay, and then they start going in facts here with how, you know, how the girls weren't allowed to do certain things. 1.00

01:03:36.200 So means and methods of the enterprise.

01:03:37.880 So let's go ahead and go back to the U.S. DOJ article.

01:03:40.100 I just wanted to show you guys the, how, how the feds were able to establish venue, okay?

01:03:47.440 And this is a, well, I think this one is a 27-page indictment.

01:03:50.740 Yeah, 17-page, okay.

01:03:51.680 And they superseded, they did several superseding indictments, guys, which basically means they charge them once, and then they get more evidence, charge them again, give them a super, and that's a superseding indictment where it overrides the one before because they got new charges.

01:04:04.180 And I think they did, like, three superseding indictments on this guy, okay?

01:04:09.020 So racketeering on Act 1, bribery.

01:04:12.020 Kelly bribed a state employee to create an identification card for Jane Doe, number one, and then 15 years old, so that Kelly could marry Jane Doe, number one, because they believe she was pregnant, and therefore their marriage can keep them out of jail.

01:04:22.280 Who are they talking about here, guys?

01:04:24.720 They're talking about...

01:04:31.640 Let's see if the chat can get it.

01:04:32.680 Who are they talking about here, guys?

01:04:34.040 Let's see if y'all were paying attention earlier.

01:04:36.920 Who are they talking about?

01:04:41.540 And the winner is ASEC.

01:04:48.420 I think he was the first one to have a bunch of y'all saying Aaliyah.

01:04:51.500 Bam, there we go.

01:04:53.580 And we showed you guys the marriage certificate earlier, so, yeah.

01:04:58.560 Racketeering Acts 2, 7, and 10, sexual exploitation of a child, Jane Doe.

01:05:02.280 And some of you guys are probably wondering, what is bribery?

01:05:03.800 Bribery is essentially when you're paying someone to do something, to overlook something, or to commit criminal activity against their position.

01:05:11.540 Typically, they're in a trusted position, and you're paying them to not do what they're supposed to do.

01:05:16.500 Okay?

01:05:16.680 That's, like, a very layman's terms way of putting it for you guys.

01:05:19.700 Racketeering Acts 2, 7, and 10, sexual exploitation of a child, Jane Doe, number two, Jane Doe, number four, and Jane Doe, number five.

01:05:26.180 You guys are probably wondering, why the fuck are they using Jane Doe's?

01:05:28.240 The reason why, guys, is because the girls were underage at the time of the criminal activity, and a lot of times, to protect the victim's identity, they just call them Jane Doe, just like a John Doe.

01:05:35.380 So, Kelly, of course, Jane Doe, number two, Jane Doe, number four, and Jane Doe, number five, to engage in sexually explicit conduct for the purpose of producing video recordings. 0.98

01:05:42.520 Over the course of decades, he made these recordings and other recordings of sexually explicit conduct using VHS video cameras, Canon camcorders, iPhones, and iPads.

01:05:51.120 Holy fuck, this guy, bro.

01:05:52.720 This fucking...

01:05:54.340 Bruh.

01:05:55.400 My man was using VHS video cameras, them big-ass joints.

01:05:58.740 Oh, it was a long time ago.

01:06:00.080 God damn.

01:06:02.720 Racketary Acts 11 and 13, forced labor.

01:06:06.100 Kelly used a threat of physical harm and physical restraint to ensure that his victims, including Jane Doe, number four, Jane Doe, number five, and Jane Doe, number six, performed sexually at his command.

01:06:15.000 So, these three witnesses right here, Jane, four, five, and six, are probably the government's best witnesses.

01:06:20.900 It's probably what it looks like to me, because I'm noticing a trend here that a bunch...

01:06:24.800 That they're in a couple of the different counts.

01:06:26.380 Uh, as to Jane Doe, number four, he slapped her, choked her, and spit on her before demanding she give him oral sex. 0.94

01:06:33.020 As to Jane Doe, number five, over a period of years, he spanked her, viciously assaulted her, confined her for periods of days, and otherwise manipulated her to ensure that she would perform for him sexually, including with other women and a man.

01:06:43.640 As to Jane Doe, number six, he forced her to give him oral sex. 1.00

01:06:46.620 When he did that, there was a gun within Kelly's reach.

01:06:49.680 Oh, shit.

01:06:50.420 God damn.

01:06:51.340 Bruh.

01:06:51.740 Between May 2009 and January 2010, Kelly regularly spoke with Jane Doe, number four, over the telephone to arrange for Jane Doe, number four, to come to his residence in Olympia Fields for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which was illegal because Jane Doe, four, was too young to consent to sex in Illinois.

01:07:07.020 Okay?

01:07:07.960 Similarly, between September 2015 and October 2015, Kelly transported Jane Doe, number five, who was then 17 years old, from New York City to Oakland, California, for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, as she was too young to consent to sex in California.

01:07:21.260 So, see how they got him here, guys?

01:07:23.020 Now, you guys are probably wondering, well, wait, hold on, what do you mean by this, Myron?

01:07:26.300 So, guys, other states have ages of consent when it comes to sex.

01:07:30.720 So, I'll give you an example, right?

01:07:32.260 So, in this case, we got Illinois and California, right?

01:07:35.380 So, let's go ahead and also do this, guys, depending on the state that you're in, right?

01:07:40.700 My general rule of thumb is don't fuck with no girl that's under 18. 0.99

01:07:43.320 Don't fucking do it.

01:07:44.560 But there are states out there, right, that have lower ages of consent.

01:07:49.360 Okay?

01:07:49.720 So, age of consent, let's say California, okay?

01:07:55.760 18.

01:07:57.020 And then we're going to go age of consent, Illinois.

01:08:04.780 17.

01:08:05.840 And age of consent, let's say another big state, Texas, I think.

01:08:09.960 All right, 17 in Texas, yep.

01:08:11.220 And then I think one of the lowest ones is Kentucky?

01:08:16.220 Kentucky?

01:08:17.340 16.

01:08:18.900 And then, or was it Kansas?

01:08:21.160 Which is fucking crazy to me.

01:08:23.160 Just, guys, only fuck with 18-year-olds, bro.

01:08:25.660 But, yeah, some of these states have lower ages of consent.

01:08:28.180 And also, keep in mind, also, just because it's the age of consent, guys, you also got to play into the fact that, like, the distance between the man and the woman change.

01:08:37.520 Okay?

01:08:37.860 Like, you can only, you know, there's Romeo and Juliet laws, which basically allow for a certain amount of years in between the two parties.

01:08:44.820 So, just deal with girls that are 18, bro, and above. 0.98

01:08:48.140 Don't fucking risk it, guys.

01:08:49.360 Like, if you take one thing from this podcast, man, just fuck with girls that are 18 and above, bro. 0.99

01:08:53.500 Don't, don't.

01:08:54.300 Like, you know, can you potentially, you know, deal with a girl that's younger if your state has a lower age of consent and then you're young enough to, you know, maybe fall within the Romeo and Juliet guidelines?

01:09:03.260 Yes.

01:09:03.760 But, guys, don't fucking do it, bro.

01:09:05.760 Age difference is real.

01:09:08.120 Okay?

01:09:08.440 It ain't worth it.

01:09:09.520 All right?

01:09:15.380 Racketeering Acts 8, 13, and 14 Man Act violations.

01:09:18.020 Jane Oh. 0.99

01:09:18.480 So, okay, let's look at the Man Act, right, real quick.

01:09:20.920 Okay?

01:09:21.140 See, guys, the Man Act, also known as the White Slave Traffic Act of 1910, is a federal law that criminalizes transportation to any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery or for any other immoral purpose. 0.78

01:09:41.120 So, it was passed in June 1910 and named after Illinois Congressman James R. Mann invoked in the Commerce Clause to felonize the use of interstate or foreign commerce to transport women for immoral purposes.

01:09:54.260 The act was aimed at prostitution, immorality, and human trafficking.

01:09:56.960 Congress appointed a commission in 1907 to investigate into the problem of immigrant prostitutes. 0.62

01:10:01.300 It was alleged that immigrant women were brought to America for sexual slavery and immigrant women lured American girls into prostitution or white slavery.

01:10:08.820 The committees believed that no girl would enter prostitution unless drugged or held captive.

01:10:13.160 This led to public outrage, which eventually resulted in the enactment of the Man Act.

01:10:17.520 So, here's the thing.

01:10:19.040 Now, does every pimp get charged with the Man Act, guys?

01:10:21.220 No, because a lot of the times they're able to establish that the girls wanted to be prostitutes, which is why human trafficking is very difficult to prove, guys.

01:10:27.420 It actually is.

01:10:27.900 However, it's easy to prove human trafficking if the girl is underage, okay?

01:10:34.880 Which is what the government was able to do in R. Kelly's case.

01:10:37.760 If these girls were of age, he probably wouldn't have been getting hit with as hard of the charges that he's getting hit now.

01:10:44.100 But since he was a fucking dummy and wanted to deal with girls that were young and, you know, be on this risky type shit, that's why they were able to hit him with the Man Act.

01:10:52.120 Because the girls can't consent, guys. 1.00

01:10:54.480 Even if they consented at the time or they didn't feel like they were being prostitutes or maybe they didn't feel like they were being used or whatever, they're not old enough to consent.

01:11:04.100 So, bam.

01:11:04.600 Now the Man Act pretty much attaches itself to the criminal activity automatically.

01:11:08.640 However, if you're like a pimp and you got like 20 girls that work underneath you and they're all 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, whatever the hell it is, right?

01:11:17.860 And you're pimping them out, literally pimping them out.

01:11:21.420 However, the girls are all of age and they're like, hey, listen, I know my pimp, you know, beats me and all this other shit and, you know, whatever.

01:11:28.220 But I wanted to be a prostitute. 0.91

01:11:30.980 You know, it's not forced, which a lot of the time is the case with these prostitution rings. 0.99

01:11:36.180 The girls aren't forced. 0.99

01:11:37.500 They want to be prostitutes. 1.00

01:11:38.920 You can't necessarily hit them with the Man Act, okay?

01:11:41.020 It's much more difficult to prove.

01:11:42.640 Can you still hit them with it?

01:11:43.940 Potentially, but it's more difficult to prove.

01:11:45.980 That's why the Man Act works so well with underage girls because they can't consent. 1.00

01:11:49.280 Since they can't consent, it don't matter if they personally themselves consented.

01:11:53.160 You can't legally consent because you're not old enough, all right?

01:11:58.420 So age ain't nothing but a number.

01:12:01.420 No, age matters, guys, all right?

01:12:04.180 Age definitely matters. 0.76

01:12:06.140 Racketeering Acts 8, 13, and 14 Man Act violations.

01:12:09.620 In April 2015, Kelly arranged for Jane Doe No. 5 to fly from her home in Orlando, Florida to Los Angeles, California for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, 1.00

01:12:17.240 which was illegal because Kelly knew he had an incurable sexually transmitted disease and did not inform Jane Doe No. 5 about the STD prior to engaging in sexual intercourse with her.

01:12:27.400 Holy bro!

01:12:28.560 In May of 2017 and again in February of 2018, Kelly arranged for Jane Doe No. 6 to fly from her home in San Antonio, Texas to LaGuardia Airport in Queens, New York for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, 0.99

01:12:43.720 which again was illegal because Kelly failed to disclose that he had an incurable STD and obtained Jane Doe No. 6's consent to engage in sexual intercourse under those circumstances.

01:12:53.900 So, yes, he ended up getting 30 years for this, guys.

01:13:06.100 So here is his judgment, which we're going to go over real quick with y'all.

01:13:11.680 So a judgment, guys, is basically when the government hands down your charge against you.

01:13:19.320 So before I pull up the judgment, can we go ahead and get, Denise, can we go ahead and get the chats?

01:13:26.480 Yeah, the chats.

01:13:27.100 Okay.

01:13:27.420 Real fast.

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01:13:31.440 One second.

01:13:32.220 Let me get there.

01:13:32.960 My bad, guys.

01:13:33.480 I got to pull up.

01:13:34.120 Where's the legal docs?

01:13:36.260 I had them here.

01:13:40.400 Hey, guys, while we wait, do me a quick favor and like the video.

01:13:43.680 Denise, do you have anything you want to say to the people?

01:13:45.680 Yeah, like the video.

01:13:47.260 Like the video.

01:13:47.920 So, please, if you guys want to see, please, if you want to see my my cleavage, my reducted

01:13:53.620 or her reduced boobs. 0.99

01:13:55.760 Yeah, you guys got to like, you got to like the video.

01:13:58.300 Got to like the video ninjas.

01:13:59.720 I'll show.

01:14:00.420 I'll show if no people like it.

01:14:04.400 Shout out to Denise helping out for the taking one for the team. 1.00

01:14:07.240 Nick Hassan goes 10 bucks.

01:14:09.640 Even if the girl is old enough to consent, they can still charge you with corruption of a minor.

01:14:13.500 Uh, I don't know.

01:14:17.540 I'm not aware of a federal statute for that, my friend.

01:14:19.800 Might be a state thing.

01:14:21.000 But I'm not.

01:14:21.580 Hey, you could be right.

01:14:22.920 I don't know.

01:14:24.720 Um, let's see here.

01:14:26.600 Any other anything else?

01:14:27.500 I think that was it.

01:14:28.300 That was it.

01:14:28.720 Yeah.

01:14:30.000 Guys, like the video.

01:14:30.640 Uh, all right.

01:14:32.800 So here's the judgment here, guys, that I have right now for R. Kelly.

01:14:37.500 And if you guys want me to show you how I found these documents, give me a one in the chat

01:14:42.360 if you guys want me to teach you how to use Pacer again.

01:14:43.860 I've done it before in the past, um, but give me a one in the chat if you want me to show

01:14:47.320 you guys, if no, a two in the chat if you guys don't want me to, if you, if you already

01:14:50.300 know, if you already know, then no big deal.

01:14:52.600 Um, before I read this, this, uh, this, uh, thing.

01:14:55.560 Uh, one, one, one.

01:15:02.360 Okay.

01:15:02.840 One.

01:15:03.720 So why did R. Kelly get 30 years?

01:15:05.360 Good question.

01:15:06.280 Uh, the reason why is because they got him under racketeering and he took it to trial.

01:15:11.100 That is why he did more time.

01:15:14.040 Someone goes Pearl, uh, Perez ML official cleave age.

01:15:20.220 Appreciate that.

01:15:21.540 Okay.

01:15:22.120 Um, it looks like mostly once.

01:15:24.240 Okay.

01:15:24.520 Let me go over this judgment first and I'll show you guys how I came to find this judgment.

01:15:28.020 All right.

01:15:28.600 So here's the judgment guys.

01:15:29.700 And this is, um, after he was convicted by, um, this is after he was convicted by, uh,

01:15:34.600 by the, by the, um, uh, the jury.

01:15:37.360 So here's what he was convicted of racketeering.

01:15:39.500 Okay.

01:15:39.920 18 USC, 1962 C in 1963, which if you guys have been watching this podcast, you guys already

01:15:43.940 are familiar with the statutes.

01:15:45.180 Then they also got them with man act transportation.

01:15:47.540 Joe Jane Doe five, which is one of them. 0.57

01:15:49.460 Okay.

01:15:49.780 Which happened on October 30th, 2015.

01:15:51.720 Um, and that was 18 USC two, four, two.

01:15:56.060 All right.

01:15:56.480 And here's the judge right here, signing the judgments.

01:15:58.600 All right.

01:15:59.540 Um, and then these are all the charges that they hit them and additional counts of conviction,

01:16:05.000 man act coercion and enticement, uh, man act coercion of a minor, uh, man act transportation

01:16:09.600 of a minor, man act transportation, Jane Doe six, man act coercion and enticement, man

01:16:13.920 act transportation, man act, uh, coercion and enticement.

01:16:17.280 If you guys look here, um, these were all fairly recent, these charges.

01:16:22.560 So why were they able to bring up all these old things from the nineties?

01:16:25.400 Well, like I told you guys before, they were able to establish that there was a pattern

01:16:28.100 of racketeering activity for 30 years.

01:16:30.980 Okay.

01:16:31.340 So that's how they're able to get around statute of limitations and use older shit to show

01:16:35.140 a pattern of activity.

01:16:36.720 So, um, the defendant is hereby committed to the custody of the federal bureau of prisons

01:16:41.080 to be in prison for a total term of 360 months on count one, 10 years on counts two, six and

01:16:46.540 eight, 20 years.

01:16:47.280 And on counts three, four, five, seven and nine, all counts to run concurrently.

01:16:51.640 Okay.

01:16:51.920 Which luckily for him, it's, uh, concurrently, which means they all run at the same time.

01:16:57.680 Either way he would have had to have way more time.

01:16:59.780 So these are the standards and conditions of supervision.

01:17:02.520 Okay.

01:17:03.160 Cause you can get five years, special conditions of supervision, criminal monetary penalties.

01:17:07.060 He's got to pay a hundred thousand dollars in restitution or a fine.

01:17:10.140 Sorry.

01:17:10.800 A hundred thousand dollars in fines.

01:17:12.540 Okay.

01:17:13.320 Schedule of payments.

01:17:14.760 Uh, he owes $900 immediately.

01:17:17.880 Okay.

01:17:18.320 And this is his judgment, gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen.

01:17:20.640 So you guys are probably wondering, how did I come across and find these documents?

01:17:24.280 Well, so I'm going to go ahead and show you guys how to do this.

01:17:27.880 So you're going to go into Google, right?

01:17:30.020 And I want you guys to make life easier.

01:17:32.000 You're going to go Eastern district, right?

01:17:37.020 So the important thing is to figure out what district the guy's being charged in, right?

01:17:40.440 Or the person that you're looking to look up Eastern district of New York.

01:17:45.340 Eastern.

01:17:48.540 And you're going to come here.

01:17:50.960 You're going to go in, right?

01:17:51.840 Then you're going to click log into CMECF.

01:17:54.760 Bam.

01:17:55.040 And I'm in.

01:17:55.620 Normally they're going to ask you to log in guys, as far as like your username and password,

01:17:59.180 but I'm already logged in.

01:18:00.340 So I'm going to go ahead.

01:18:01.920 Which we skip a step, but you guys get it.

01:18:03.320 Make a username and password.

01:18:04.140 Oh, no.

01:18:04.500 See, it's asking me to log in again.

01:18:06.380 Now I'm in.

01:18:07.440 Right?

01:18:07.940 You're going to hit query.

01:18:09.620 Once you hit query, we're going to go ahead and type in Kelly.

01:18:12.940 Last name.

01:18:15.560 First name.

01:18:17.120 Robert.

01:18:18.760 Okay.

01:18:19.060 We know the middle name here.

01:18:20.080 It's Sylvester, but just for easy purposes, we're going to do it off.

01:18:23.140 First name and last name.

01:18:24.140 Now, this is a fairly common name.

01:18:25.440 So look at all the people that come back.

01:18:26.920 But we know his middle name.

01:18:28.240 So here we go.

01:18:29.920 Kelly Robert.

01:18:30.760 Sylvester.

01:18:31.320 Defendant.

01:18:31.740 Oh, looks like a plaintiff. 0.84

01:18:32.960 Oh, you know what?

01:18:33.320 This is, I think that when he, he's suing the DOC, I think.

01:18:38.080 Let's look at this one.

01:18:38.660 Who is he?

01:18:39.780 Yeah.

01:18:41.460 Yeah.

01:18:41.860 This is a, look, they just filed this July 1st.

01:18:45.460 This R. Kelly suing the warden, Heriberto H. Tellez.

01:18:49.780 And they're basically suing them.

01:18:51.720 And this is the complaint that they, because he said that they got him on suicide watch.

01:18:54.780 So this case just literally got filed.

01:18:56.380 This is what I was telling you out earlier.

01:18:57.540 And you can find civil lawsuits in here too, but let's go back to the criminal case.

01:19:01.300 So we don't like deviate too much from what we're doing.

01:19:04.120 Right?

01:19:04.840 So you're going to go, here he is as a defendant.

01:19:07.360 So here's him as a plaintiff.

01:19:08.580 So, you know, that's a civil case.

01:19:09.880 Here he is as a defendant.

01:19:11.100 Click it.

01:19:11.680 And then bam.

01:19:12.840 USA versus Kelly.

01:19:13.740 So they got two different ones here.

01:19:14.980 It doesn't matter, guys.

01:19:16.060 It's going to say, so just so you know, first it goes 1, 19, that's the year.

01:19:22.020 CR means criminal.

01:19:22.940 This is the actual case number.

01:19:23.960 And then AMD, which probably is going to, because Eastern District in New York, that's like the

01:19:28.040 identifier, right?

01:19:29.840 Or no, sorry, AMD is the judge.

01:19:33.020 That's the judge's name, which is Anne McDonald.

01:19:38.300 So you're going to go ahead and click.

01:19:39.480 It doesn't matter.

01:19:39.980 Either one works.

01:19:40.660 USA versus Kelly.

01:19:42.060 Open it up.

01:19:42.980 And then you're going to hit docket report, okay?

01:19:45.440 Now, once you go into docket report, you're going to hit run report here.

01:19:48.580 And then you're just going to go as initially requested.

01:19:50.360 Since this was a big case, they're not sure if you want to go for the past week or everything.

01:19:54.680 I'm just going to go off everything because they charge you like 10 cents per page.

01:19:57.420 That's why they're asking you that, you know?

01:19:59.080 I don't give a fuck, though.

01:20:00.200 You know, we invest back in the business, okay?

01:20:04.000 So as you guys can see, and then they show you the defendant.

01:20:06.480 Bam, here he is, R. Kelly.

01:20:08.080 Here's his legal team, right?

01:20:09.780 All of them.

01:20:10.360 He had a big legal team, okay?

01:20:12.480 And then here's his charges.

01:20:14.040 And since he got actually convicted in trial, they actually put here what the disposition is.

01:20:19.300 360 months, right?

01:20:21.040 And all these charges, 360 months.

01:20:22.540 But he got lucky because they're all going to run concurrently, which means they're all going to run at the same time.

01:20:26.520 Versus consecutively, that would suck because he would have to do 30 years and another 30 years and another 30 years.

01:20:31.600 Okay?

01:20:32.480 So he's going to be out when he's in his 80s, guys.

01:20:34.480 I think R. Kelly is around 55, 56.

01:20:36.960 So here you go.

01:20:37.780 Here's a sealed indictment.

01:20:38.940 Here's another superseding indictment.

01:20:40.460 Then you can look through all these court documents.

01:20:43.440 Okay?

01:20:43.660 This is what I go through every time for you guys.

01:20:45.380 I read through all this stuff for y'all before we prepare for a case.

01:20:49.640 Go through all this, okay?

01:20:51.100 And then that was a judgment that I pulled for you guys earlier, the very one I just read.

01:20:54.000 You click it, right, just so we can go all the way here and show you guys how this works.

01:20:58.360 You're going to hit here, view document, and then bam, it comes right up.

01:21:02.100 Cool?

01:21:03.180 So that is how, my friends, you find stuff on Pacer.

01:21:06.240 I need you guys to like the goddamn video.

01:21:11.500 How many likes we got?

01:21:12.560 We got 2.4K, you guys watching, 2.5K now.

01:21:15.340 Give me the 2,000 likes, guys.

01:21:16.820 All right?

01:21:17.100 Give me the 2,000, I'll be happy.

01:21:19.640 All right, so where are we at here?

01:21:22.020 So we talked about that.

01:21:24.380 Then there was one something else I was going to show you guys.

01:21:28.840 So I'll stop the screen share for a sec.

01:21:31.420 Give me ones in the chat if you guys are enjoying this breakdown.

01:21:33.480 Give me a two in the chat if you guys don't like it.

01:21:36.040 One's in the chat if you guys are having a good time.

01:21:38.020 Two's in the chat if it's trash.

01:21:39.460 And you hate me.

01:21:40.740 And this shit was garbage.

01:21:42.400 I could take the constructive criticism.

01:21:43.860 Don't worry, I promise.

01:21:44.480 Yeah.

01:21:44.740 I really do be looking at a lot of the criticisms, man.

01:21:52.320 It's all, dude, you got to get out your feelings sometimes and look at the stuff for what it

01:21:56.140 is and, you know, it makes you better.

01:21:57.820 I take a lot of the criticisms and I'm like, you know what, let me make the content better.

01:22:00.220 Where the hell are the windows that I had?

01:22:05.160 Nope.

01:22:06.900 A lot of ones.

01:22:08.360 Thank you guys so much.

01:22:09.400 I appreciate you guys supporting.

01:22:12.700 Okay, so I know some of you guys probably want that interview that he did with Gail Knight

01:22:19.980 on, I think, CBS.

01:22:22.460 So let's go ahead and pull this bad boy up real quick for y'all.

01:22:25.680 All right, Kelly interview, okay.

01:22:37.360 And we'll just get the craziest parts.

01:22:44.000 And then I'm going to go ahead and share a screen with y'all.

01:22:45.880 I am surprised that you agreed to do it.

01:22:56.860 Why are you sitting down with us today?

01:22:59.140 I'm very tired of all of the lies.

01:23:02.420 And I ain't going to lie, it is crazy that he went and did an interview with them in the

01:23:05.560 middle of a criminal case.

01:23:07.220 This, I don't know who his publicist or his defense attorney is.

01:23:10.460 This was not a good move, in my opinion.

01:23:12.620 You don't want to say anything, but I get it.

01:23:14.500 He hadn't been saying, he hadn't said anything for decades when these accusations came out.

01:23:18.400 So to his credit, guys, this is the first time, okay, that he actually spoke on these

01:23:24.360 charges to the mainstream media.

01:23:26.840 I've been hearing things and, you know, and seeing things on the blogs and, you know, I'm

01:23:31.860 just, I'm just tired.

01:23:33.120 What are the lies that you're hearing that disturb you most?

01:23:35.840 Oh my God.

01:23:38.120 So he's going to go over the things that pissed him off the most when it comes to what

01:23:41.840 the girls were accusing. 1.00

01:23:42.660 All right.

01:23:43.340 And this interview was back in March of 2019.

01:23:45.120 So he was in the middle of like pretty much, or right before he got indicted and arrested.

01:23:52.440 All of them.

01:23:54.280 Got little girls trapped in the basement, helicopters over my house, trying to rescue someone that

01:24:02.000 doesn't need rescuing because they're not in my house.

01:24:05.320 Handcuffing people, starving people.

01:24:07.140 I have a harem, what you call it, a cult.

01:24:12.220 I don't even really know what a cult is, but.

01:24:15.820 Come on, R. Kelly.

01:24:16.800 You know what a cult is, my man.

01:24:18.140 Come on, bro.

01:24:19.740 You're one of the best R&B artists of all time, bro.

01:24:23.000 You know what a cult is because there's a bunch of people that support R. Kelly even through

01:24:26.200 all the allegations.

01:24:27.560 You know, hey, man, you're free to support what you want.

01:24:30.240 You know, the guy made, it's undisputed that his music, you know, touched a lot of people

01:24:36.340 and he's a fantastic musician and he's a musical genius, but fucking making dumbass decisions 0.86

01:24:42.520 when it comes to women.

01:24:43.960 I know I don't have one, you know.

01:24:45.780 Have you done anything that you regret?

01:24:47.560 Have you done anything wrong?

01:24:49.400 Lots of things wrong when it comes to women that I apologize. 0.89

01:24:53.180 But I apologize in those relationships at the time I was in the relationships.

01:24:58.020 Have you broken any laws when it comes to women?

01:25:00.800 Well, the tough questions are coming now.

01:25:03.560 Super chat real quick.

01:25:04.760 Ten bucks.

01:25:05.780 Damn, he even sounds like a creepy kitty fiddler.

01:25:09.320 Fucking cloud.

01:25:10.520 Absolutely not.

01:25:11.760 The six-part series interviewed.

01:25:13.260 And I love the fucking little picture of like me pointing at the camera and saying,

01:25:16.320 yo, super chat real quick.

01:25:17.560 Oh, you guys are hilarious.

01:25:18.620 50 people.

01:25:20.040 Family members.

01:25:21.060 Your former tour manager.

01:25:23.080 Numerous women who all claim that you abused them. 1.00

01:25:25.440 Are you saying everybody in that documentary was not telling the truth about you?

01:25:29.060 Everybody?

01:25:29.700 If you really look at that documentary, which I'm sure you have.

01:25:33.920 W for Tits McGee.

01:25:35.700 Yeah.

01:25:36.240 Everybody said something bad about me.

01:25:39.940 Nobody said nothing good.

01:25:42.600 They was describing Lucifer.

01:25:45.200 I'm not Lucifer.

01:25:46.980 I'm a man.

01:25:48.260 I make myself.

01:25:49.120 Wrench Turner goes 10 bucks.

01:25:50.460 Imagine being flewed out by a celebrity just to get burnt.

01:25:53.220 Affluent Studio Pookie.

01:25:54.360 This fucking guy.

01:25:57.760 Thanks.

01:25:58.760 But I'm not a devil.

01:26:00.660 And by no means am I a monster.

01:26:02.740 I'm going to name the names.

01:26:04.080 Andrea Kelly, your ex-wife.

01:26:05.620 Kitty Jones.

01:26:06.780 Lisa Van Allen.

01:26:08.320 Lizette Martinez.

01:26:09.800 Jeronda Pace.

01:26:11.560 Faith Rogers.

01:26:13.000 Asante McGee.

01:26:13.920 You're saying everything they said in that documentary about you is not.

01:26:18.000 The rat who plays the ding again.

01:26:21.220 Ron Pa.

01:26:22.100 Evening past my SI.

01:26:23.840 When are you dropping the hiring process video?

01:26:26.160 Second chat, by the way.

01:26:27.200 Dude, you're on your way, my friend.

01:26:28.400 You don't even need the video.

01:26:29.180 Keep going.

01:26:29.880 You're going to be fine.

01:26:31.340 Okay.

01:26:32.560 Not true.

01:26:33.300 They are lying on me.

01:26:34.380 Why would these women say the same thing about you, that you are controlling, that you are abusive, that you tell women when to eat, when to go to the bathroom, when they can sleep, where they can dress? 1.00

01:26:46.660 Why would all these women tell these different stories about you if they were not true? 1.00

01:26:51.260 And they don't know each other.

01:26:53.200 That's a very good question, which I established with you guys before.

01:26:55.720 NBA Dekali says five bucks.

01:26:57.040 I don't see nothing wrong with a little like of this video.

01:27:02.020 Guys, like the fucking video, man.

01:27:03.660 You guys are killing me with the fucking songs and making it funny.

01:27:08.720 You guys are fucking killing me here.

01:27:10.460 That defies logic to me.

01:27:12.300 Right, right.

01:27:13.240 Until you hear the explanation.

01:27:16.340 You can start a rumor on a guy like me or a celebrity just like that.

01:27:21.060 All you have to do is push a button on your phone and say, so-and-so did this to me.

01:27:26.380 R. Kelly did this to me.

01:27:27.560 And if you get any traction from that, if you're able to write a book from that, if you're able to get a reality show,

01:27:33.660 then any girl that I had a relationship in the past that it just didn't work out, she can come and say the same exact thing. 0.96

01:27:41.740 Are you blaming this on social?

01:27:42.880 This is true.

01:27:44.080 He has a point there.

01:27:45.220 This happens all the time.

01:27:46.680 You know, girls will make accusations, you know, potentially for make money, get certain opportunities given to them, whatever it may be. 1.00

01:27:56.020 This is true.

01:27:56.860 But again, these girls were underage. 1.00

01:28:01.100 Robert, what the fuck are you doing, man?

01:28:04.400 You know what I mean?

01:28:04.980 It's pretty much at this point undisputed that the women were underage when they were fucking with you, bro.

01:28:08.580 And that's the problem here.

01:28:10.280 You know, 90% of the problems here would have probably been avoided if these women were of age. 1.00

01:28:14.960 Social media?

01:28:17.320 I'm talking about the power of social media.

01:28:19.700 Have you ever had sex with anyone under the age of 17?

01:28:23.280 No.

01:28:24.900 Never?

01:28:25.720 No.

01:28:26.820 I have to tell you.

01:28:28.840 Stop the cap. 0.94

01:28:31.440 It's so hard to believe that based on all that we've read.

01:28:34.940 I'm going to tell you something, girl.

01:28:36.020 There's one sentence.

01:28:36.920 I'm going to tell you something.

01:28:37.260 What the women have said about you.

01:28:38.620 What women said about me. 0.73

01:28:40.780 So nobody's allowed to be mad at me and be scorned and lie on me.

01:28:45.440 So they're lying on you.

01:28:46.700 That's your explanation.

01:28:47.600 They're lying on you.

01:28:48.600 Absolutely.

01:28:53.600 Absolutely.

01:28:55.580 Absolutely.

01:28:56.440 You feel that people...

01:28:57.460 Yeah.

01:28:57.940 So...

01:28:59.500 Yeah.

01:29:01.420 Jay with the snub.

01:29:02.300 Ten bucks.

01:29:02.760 Myron, what's your favorite R. Kelly song or did you ever have one?

01:29:05.840 Damn.

01:29:06.820 That's a good question.

01:29:08.600 Um...

01:29:10.060 Let me get back to you.

01:29:10.960 I'm going to think of all the...

01:29:11.760 He made so many hits, man.

01:29:14.040 Can you please do a Draco the Ruler case?

01:29:15.840 Shout out to you, Myron.

01:29:16.900 And that's from Don X Ven.

01:29:19.340 Yes, I can't cover that.

01:29:20.480 I need to get some stuff together for it.

01:29:22.540 They haven't caught the killers yet, if I'm not mistaken.

01:29:24.460 I'm not sure.

01:29:25.620 Shout out to my guy, Traplower Ross.

01:29:26.760 He did a whole breakdown on it.

01:29:27.740 I'm going to go check it out and get back to you guys on that one.

01:29:30.740 Jay with the snub.

01:29:31.280 Myron, what's your favorite R. Kelly song?

01:29:32.260 Okay, I'll get back to you on that one.

01:29:34.480 We have 24.

01:29:36.600 My mind is telling me no, but my body.

01:29:39.000 Hey, my body is telling me like.

01:29:41.760 Like the fucking video, guys.

01:29:43.320 I love that.

01:29:43.860 Especially for these creative-ass super chats.

01:29:45.440 Shout out to y'all, man.

01:29:46.500 We got Stanley Frederic.

01:29:48.040 Five bucks.

01:29:48.780 Hey, Myron, can you do the Deshaun Watson case

01:29:50.680 because the NFL trying to suspend him over an allegation

01:29:53.080 that he didn't get found guilty of?

01:29:54.980 Well, here's the thing you guys got to remember, bro.

01:29:56.520 The NFL, college campuses, all these, you know, private entities,

01:30:01.120 they reserve the right to cancel you for anything, bro.

01:30:04.820 This is the clown world that we're in.

01:30:05.880 Even if you get acquitted in a court of law,

01:30:07.720 they can still come after you on some other, you know,

01:30:09.840 miscellaneous technicality stuff, man.

01:30:11.780 So that's the world that we're in.

01:30:14.160 NBA to Cali.

01:30:14.940 His real downfall is he couldn't keep it on the down low

01:30:17.880 because nobody had to know.

01:30:19.080 Yo, you guys.

01:30:23.160 Looks like we got a lot of R. Kelly fans in the house

01:30:25.320 that, like, listen to his music, bro.

01:30:27.680 Bobby De LaPose, I would like you to do the Central Park 5 case

01:30:32.700 and get your perspective on Eric Reynolds,

01:30:34.200 one of the arresting officers in that case.

01:30:36.940 I am aware of the Central Park 5 case.

01:30:39.800 I did watch the Netflix show on that.

01:30:42.820 If I have time, I will.

01:30:45.300 That one's old, though.

01:30:46.260 Five-star sport betting, five bucks from Canada.

01:30:49.840 Super sticker.

01:30:50.320 Thank you so much.

01:30:52.520 And then anything else here?

01:30:55.620 Michael Mishro saying hit the damn like button.

01:30:57.800 Yeah, guys, please like the video, man.

01:30:59.500 I have been assassinated.

01:31:03.020 I have been buried alive.

01:31:06.560 But I'm alive.

01:31:08.000 So I think the point you're making is,

01:31:09.960 and correct me if I'm wrong,

01:31:11.720 that you have never held anybody against their will.

01:31:14.580 I don't need to.

01:31:15.700 That.

01:31:16.520 Pull up that shot again.

01:31:17.960 Why would I?

01:31:18.860 Well, I'm out.

01:31:19.340 How stupid would it be for R. Kelly

01:31:21.500 with all I've been through in my way, way past

01:31:25.400 to hold somebody,

01:31:28.260 let alone four or five.

01:31:30.280 Rory F goes five bucks.

01:31:31.320 He loves them golden showers,

01:31:32.320 but now he's getting the golden stream of justice.

01:31:34.560 You fucking guys, bro.

01:31:35.880 Ha ha! 0.86

01:31:37.240 Ah, 650, you said.

01:31:39.480 How stupid would I be to do that?

01:31:42.180 I didn't say you were holding.

01:31:43.240 That's stupid, guys.

01:31:44.140 Is this camera on me?

01:31:46.180 Yes.

01:31:46.800 That's stupid.

01:31:48.420 Stupid.

01:31:48.800 Use your common sense.

01:31:50.700 Don't forget the blogs.

01:31:52.200 Forget how you feel about me.

01:31:53.820 Hate me if you want to.

01:31:54.900 Love me if you want.

01:31:55.620 But just use your common sense.

01:31:57.140 How stupid would it be for me to,

01:32:00.260 with my crazy past and what I've been through.

01:32:04.280 Oh, right now, I just think I need to be a monster

01:32:07.380 and hold girls against their will,

01:32:09.100 chain them up in my basement,

01:32:10.400 and don't let them eat and don't let them out

01:32:13.260 unless they need some shoes down the street from their uncle.

01:32:16.920 I think that's one of the,

01:32:22.220 that's one of the, um, uh, witnesses said that.

01:32:24.420 Like, he let me go to get shoes for my uncle.

01:32:26.860 Oh, okay.

01:32:27.760 That's why he said it.

01:32:28.320 Oh, that's true.

01:32:28.820 I remember something like that.

01:32:29.800 You remember, yeah?

01:32:30.440 Yeah.

01:32:31.060 Stop it.

01:32:31.840 Y'all quit playing.

01:32:33.160 Quit playing.

01:32:34.400 I didn't do this stuff.

01:32:36.560 This is not me, y'all.

01:32:37.920 I'm fighting for my fucking life.

01:32:40.920 Y'all killing me with this shit.

01:32:42.760 I can't have 30 years of my fucking career.

01:32:46.840 Robert.

01:32:47.620 30 years of my career.

01:32:50.360 Y'all trying to kill me.

01:32:53.100 You killing me, man.

01:32:55.540 This ain't not about music.

01:32:57.840 I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids,

01:33:00.340 and I can't do it.

01:33:03.400 I thought he was going to sing right there.

01:33:05.360 I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids,

01:33:06.820 and I can't do it.

01:33:08.200 And I thought he was going to, like,

01:33:09.060 just bust it till I hit the start singing.

01:33:10.920 I was like, oh, shit.

01:33:11.640 With his long songs.

01:33:12.760 Yeah.

01:33:13.500 I just don't want to believe the truth.

01:33:16.060 You don't want to believe it.

01:33:17.740 At this point, we briefly pause the interview

01:33:19.840 to give Kelly a moment.

01:33:21.380 Even this man got a smile on.

01:33:22.780 Look at this nigga's face, bro. 1.00

01:33:24.680 Like, what the hell?

01:33:26.300 Let's see if we get this in better quality here.

01:33:28.740 God damn it.

01:33:30.780 And, guys, the reason why I'm using this video

01:33:32.520 and not, like, the original

01:33:33.320 is because I don't want to get hit with copyright.

01:33:35.080 You can see that the person that took the video,

01:33:37.220 like, cut it off a little bit,

01:33:38.860 and, you know, hopefully we don't get hit

01:33:41.300 with a copyright here, so.

01:33:42.600 His publicist helped calm him down.

01:33:45.200 Age ain't nothing but a number.

01:33:47.660 And a cell ain't nothing but a room.

01:33:49.300 This fucking guy, bro.

01:33:51.540 Used to be $10.

01:33:53.480 I hope this camera keeps...

01:33:55.080 Big Mo in the fucking house.

01:33:59.300 Five bucks says, seems like you're ready.

01:34:00.920 Girl, are you ready to go all the way

01:34:03.240 to liking the damn video?

01:34:04.560 Hey! 0.99

01:34:07.120 Mo be listening to that R&B, man.

01:34:09.160 Every time...

01:34:09.880 If I, like, leave the studio,

01:34:11.340 go to the gym or whatever,

01:34:12.120 and, like, Mo's, like, setting up the studio,

01:34:13.820 I come in and he'll have some fucking

01:34:15.540 weird-ass R&B playing, man.

01:34:18.300 Some R. Kelly, this type of shit.

01:34:19.520 I'm like, bro, come on, man.

01:34:20.280 What are you doing in here by yourself?

01:34:21.860 Like, you know,

01:34:22.300 have you ever seen the movie The Hangover?

01:34:24.020 Yeah.

01:34:24.460 And, like, they walk in,

01:34:25.420 and Mike Tyson is playing fucking

01:34:26.800 Phil Collins in the night?

01:34:29.220 Yeah.

01:34:29.680 Yeah.

01:34:30.120 And he's like, hey, yo,

01:34:30.720 this is the best part.

01:34:31.860 And then, you know, that fucking...

01:34:32.940 And then he starts punching her.

01:34:33.620 And that boom,

01:34:34.120 they hit the drum set,

01:34:34.980 they're like...

01:34:35.400 And then he just, like,

01:34:37.800 fucking punches the guy.

01:34:38.960 That's Mo in the fucking studio.

01:34:40.720 He'll just be like, you know,

01:34:41.760 play some shit in here, 0.87

01:34:43.020 just grooving, you know,

01:34:44.240 set up the mics,

01:34:45.400 all that shit.

01:34:48.100 We got 20 bucks from...

01:34:49.260 Can you click that one again?

01:34:50.140 Yeah, fair use, Quran. 1.00

01:34:51.120 Thank you so much.

01:34:52.800 Shout out to Quran.

01:34:54.500 Cool.

01:34:55.260 Myron, what are the chances

01:34:56.220 that all these accusations

01:34:57.280 are capping?

01:34:57.840 He's being blackmailed.

01:34:58.760 Okay.

01:34:59.560 So, I guess I'll get my opinion on it

01:35:01.280 since we're kind of running

01:35:02.620 towards the end here.

01:35:03.680 So, his biggest fuck-up, guys,

01:35:05.960 again, was dealing

01:35:06.740 with underage girls.

01:35:07.820 If these were women of age, 0.99

01:35:09.520 he probably wouldn't be having

01:35:10.760 the severity of these charges, okay?

01:35:12.200 That's number one.

01:35:13.080 Number two,

01:35:14.180 pretty much his defense

01:35:16.600 was able to articulate

01:35:17.420 that, you know,

01:35:17.980 a lot of these girls 1.00

01:35:19.780 that came out, whatever,

01:35:20.840 their parents gave them to him.

01:35:22.520 They knew what was going on.

01:35:24.080 They allowed it to happen

01:35:24.900 for promises of, you know,

01:35:26.980 money or fame or fortune

01:35:28.460 or whatever it is.

01:35:29.080 Everybody in this thing

01:35:29.980 is fucked up. 0.98

01:35:30.480 The parents are stupid.

01:35:31.360 R. Kelly's stupid.

01:35:32.060 The girls are stupid. 1.00

01:35:33.340 Everybody was on some fuckery

01:35:34.900 in this case.

01:35:36.860 Do I think that they lied on him?

01:35:38.780 To a degree, yes.

01:35:39.920 Do I think that they sensationalized it

01:35:41.760 for the purpose of Netflix

01:35:43.140 and getting some drama out there?

01:35:44.760 Yes.

01:35:45.640 But, do I think

01:35:47.200 that what R. Kelly did

01:35:49.120 happened?

01:35:51.180 Or at least to the point where

01:35:53.220 the court found him guilty?

01:35:55.400 I think he did.

01:35:56.520 He was out here, yes.

01:35:57.360 I think that he was fucking

01:35:58.720 underage girls

01:35:59.280 and doing a bunch of stupid shit 0.93

01:36:00.340 that he shouldn't have done.

01:36:01.780 Is it sensationalized

01:36:02.760 to the level that Netflix made it

01:36:03.980 where they're like,

01:36:04.500 yo, he was chaining girls 1.00

01:36:05.320 and not letting them meet

01:36:06.020 or whatever?

01:36:07.360 We don't necessarily know.

01:36:09.100 I don't think it was

01:36:10.220 to that crazy level

01:36:11.160 because it does sound

01:36:11.800 a little crazy

01:36:12.660 that a famous R&B star

01:36:16.080 would be chaining up girls 1.00

01:36:17.440 and all this other shit

01:36:18.120 without, you know,

01:36:19.220 the authorities

01:36:19.920 like taking action

01:36:21.180 back then,

01:36:21.800 right?

01:36:23.500 But for him to say,

01:36:25.720 yo, they're lying on me

01:36:26.960 100%,

01:36:27.560 come on, bro.

01:36:28.420 They're not lying on you 100%.

01:36:29.840 They might be sensationalizing things,

01:36:32.220 but you definitely were out here

01:36:33.800 smashing these young girls, bro. 0.99

01:36:35.580 At this point,

01:36:37.060 that's a proven fact

01:36:37.860 with the overwhelming evidence.

01:36:39.980 Monchal Rather,

01:36:40.620 two bucks.

01:36:41.300 Heard he was M-word

01:36:41.980 by his older sister as a kid.

01:36:44.060 Yes, he was.

01:36:45.640 He was a victim

01:36:46.240 of abuse himself as well.

01:36:50.080 Wow.

01:36:51.500 Go on.

01:36:51.900 No, we're going to let the camera

01:36:53.080 keep rolling.

01:36:54.860 This is not,

01:36:55.360 it doesn't even make sense.

01:36:57.220 Why would I hold

01:36:58.180 all these women? 1.00

01:37:00.700 Their mothers and fathers

01:37:01.900 told me

01:37:02.660 we're going to destroy

01:37:04.020 your career.

01:37:05.140 But Kelly's emotions

01:37:06.200 remained raw.

01:37:07.840 It's an eight bit,

01:37:08.780 five bucks.

01:37:09.480 Yes, the victim,

01:37:10.140 at what point

01:37:10.900 she's personal responsibility

01:37:13.060 to play a part.

01:37:14.000 You pee on me,

01:37:15.160 he pee on her, 0.99

01:37:17.120 she stayed.

01:37:17.660 Riley Freeman.

01:37:19.600 A little lost here

01:37:20.280 by that comment,

01:37:20.940 but okay.

01:37:21.280 I know.

01:37:21.940 Real girls out there 1.00

01:37:23.000 missing.

01:37:24.080 It's real young girls 1.00

01:37:25.060 out there being abducted,

01:37:26.620 being raped,

01:37:27.820 okay?

01:37:28.720 They really are

01:37:29.720 on chains.

01:37:31.220 They really do

01:37:32.020 have chains

01:37:33.000 on their wrists

01:37:34.220 and they can't get out.

01:37:35.360 And they're ending up

01:37:36.140 buried in jail.

01:37:36.780 Robert,

01:37:37.100 we have to have

01:37:37.640 a conversation.

01:37:38.640 I don't want you

01:37:39.600 just ranting

01:37:40.220 at the camera.

01:37:41.300 I came here

01:37:42.380 for them to hear me talk.

01:37:43.880 I need help.

01:37:44.780 What kind of help?

01:37:45.700 This is the kind

01:37:46.380 of help I need.

01:37:47.140 Yes,

01:37:47.420 what kind of help?

01:37:48.040 Oh,

01:37:48.720 man.

01:37:49.360 And we're going

01:37:50.360 to get it to probably

01:37:51.080 the best part of the show,

01:37:52.080 the interview right here,

01:37:52.980 man.

01:37:53.700 He needs help,

01:37:54.300 guys.

01:37:54.560 So let's see what

01:37:55.380 the help is

01:37:56.420 that Mr. R. Kelly needs.

01:37:59.080 I need somebody

01:38:00.160 to help me

01:38:01.200 not have a big heart

01:38:02.780 because my...

01:38:04.100 What the fuck?

01:38:08.140 What?

01:38:10.440 What the fuck?

01:38:11.760 My heart is so big.

01:38:13.640 People betray me

01:38:14.820 and I keep forgiving them.

01:38:16.800 You sound like

01:38:17.440 you're playing

01:38:17.920 the victim here.

01:38:19.100 You sound like

01:38:19.740 R. Kelly.

01:38:20.540 You do.

01:38:21.680 When I listen to you,

01:38:22.480 it does sound like

01:38:23.120 you're playing

01:38:23.940 the victim card.

01:38:24.480 I'm just telling the truth.

01:38:25.740 And the reason

01:38:26.160 I'm emotional

01:38:26.740 and I apologize for that

01:38:28.060 is because this is

01:38:29.180 the first time

01:38:29.980 I was able

01:38:31.120 to say something.

01:38:32.220 I have said nothing.

01:38:35.900 And that is true.

01:38:37.000 He held this in

01:38:37.860 for like 30 years.

01:38:38.740 So to his credit, guys,

01:38:41.160 I mean,

01:38:41.520 if you were accused

01:38:42.060 of terrible things like this

01:38:43.100 and everything else like that

01:38:43.940 and it's been 30 years

01:38:45.580 you've held it in,

01:38:47.100 that's why he had

01:38:47.980 such a crazy response to it.

01:38:49.640 You know,

01:38:49.760 he's never spoken

01:38:50.420 about this stuff publicly

01:38:51.660 and he...

01:38:52.380 Honestly,

01:38:52.740 he shouldn't have done

01:38:53.160 an interview.

01:38:53.560 I think that was

01:38:54.140 a bad move.

01:38:56.640 But

01:38:57.040 five-star sports betting

01:38:58.840 goes L. Kelly.

01:38:59.580 That was easy.

01:39:03.260 This was not

01:39:03.940 a good interview, man.

01:39:05.780 It's just sad.

01:39:06.900 This entire situation

01:39:08.000 between the victims,

01:39:09.500 R. Kelly tarnishing

01:39:10.140 his career,

01:39:10.760 him going to jail

01:39:11.240 for 30 years,

01:39:11.940 the girls having the trauma,

01:39:14.660 it was just L

01:39:15.380 all around.

01:39:16.540 You know,

01:39:16.700 everyone

01:39:17.020 definitely

01:39:18.240 takes an L

01:39:20.140 on this one, bro.

01:39:21.420 But

01:39:21.560 anyway,

01:39:23.400 so we're going to go ahead

01:39:25.360 and stop it there.

01:39:26.780 So open it up

01:39:27.360 for Q&As here, guys.

01:39:29.800 Like the goddamn video,

01:39:30.840 by the way.

01:39:31.700 Okay?

01:39:32.440 We'll do a short Q&A here.

01:39:34.460 And then

01:39:34.920 I might start

01:39:35.860 incorporating Collins, guys.

01:39:37.860 Let me know

01:39:38.160 if y'all want me

01:39:38.620 to start doing Collins

01:39:39.380 on some of these fetish shows.

01:39:40.460 Not tonight,

01:39:40.980 but in the future.

01:39:42.040 I noticed with

01:39:42.560 the Tory Lanez case,

01:39:43.380 you guys really enjoyed those.

01:39:45.320 NBA to Cali,

01:39:46.300 10 bucks.

01:39:46.960 Let's be honest,

01:39:47.440 this case only got reopened

01:39:48.600 because Trump

01:39:49.220 became president,

01:39:49.980 which is what the birth

01:39:51.120 of the whole

01:39:51.640 Me Too movement

01:39:52.160 and R. Kelly

01:39:52.560 is a sacrificial lamb

01:39:53.440 to give this fake movement

01:39:54.660 any credibility.

01:39:56.000 Yeah, I mean,

01:39:56.480 you could definitely

01:39:57.260 have your conspiracy theories

01:39:58.600 on it.

01:39:58.920 You know what I'm saying?

01:39:59.380 It is what it is.

01:40:02.420 Thanos, five bucks.

01:40:03.360 An eight-year-old

01:40:03.840 is mature to change

01:40:04.680 your gender,

01:40:05.100 but a 16-year-old

01:40:05.720 can't?

01:40:06.200 Hypocrisy.

01:40:07.340 Oh, shit.

01:40:08.000 Okay.

01:40:08.600 Asking a tough questions

01:40:09.540 here, I guess.

01:40:12.760 Let's see here.

01:40:13.360 Any other questions

01:40:14.120 or comments

01:40:14.540 or anything like that?

01:40:15.460 What's your take

01:40:16.040 on all this, Denise,

01:40:16.680 now that you've went

01:40:17.320 through the case?

01:40:19.260 I mean,

01:40:19.920 I don't think

01:40:20.620 that it's okay

01:40:21.420 that he messed around

01:40:22.360 with minors

01:40:22.960 or anything like that.

01:40:24.520 I feel like

01:40:25.320 the only thing

01:40:25.880 that he did bad

01:40:26.660 was anything

01:40:28.880 with minors

01:40:29.420 because if they were

01:40:30.120 older adults,

01:40:32.220 I mean,

01:40:32.880 even if he was abusive,

01:40:34.180 they consented

01:40:34.900 to that, obviously,

01:40:35.800 and they're mature,

01:40:36.560 but when it comes

01:40:37.080 to kids

01:40:38.240 or anything like that,

01:40:39.420 I just find

01:40:40.080 that disgusting.

01:40:41.220 Yeah.

01:40:41.700 Very, very stupid

01:40:42.480 on his part.

01:40:42.900 I can't respect him.

01:40:43.180 Yeah, and I like his songs,

01:40:44.580 which sucks.

01:40:45.920 Yeah, it sucks.

01:40:47.260 He tarnished his legacy, man.

01:40:48.400 Yeah, he did.

01:40:48.940 Fuck away some young girls. 1.00

01:40:49.840 Yeah.

01:40:50.620 Let's see here.

01:40:51.640 Yes, merch guy.

01:40:52.300 She did say,

01:40:52.760 I feel like,

01:40:53.300 t-shirts and stores.

01:40:56.100 But yeah.

01:40:57.100 But yeah,

01:40:57.520 he did definitely

01:40:58.140 hang around high schools

01:40:59.120 and McDonald's.

01:41:00.340 Yeah, he actually

01:41:01.040 would pick up girls 0.99

01:41:01.740 and he would go

01:41:02.320 to high schools

01:41:02.960 and pick up girls.

01:41:04.140 Yep.

01:41:04.700 Yep.

01:41:04.900 I think Kenwood High School,

01:41:05.860 which is where

01:41:06.140 he used to sing.

01:41:07.000 Oh, terrible.

01:41:07.860 Yeah.

01:41:08.160 Yeah.

01:41:08.440 With his music teacher.

01:41:09.540 I remember he would be like,

01:41:10.260 oh, hey, music teacher,

01:41:11.080 and then get with all the girls. 0.95

01:41:12.120 That's terrible.

01:41:12.860 Yeah.

01:41:13.280 Very stupid.

01:41:14.120 Yeah.

01:41:15.300 But I hope you guys

01:41:16.040 enjoyed that show, man.

01:41:17.180 That is the R. Kelly

01:41:18.040 breakdown right there.

01:41:18.900 We talked about

01:41:19.460 a bunch of different things.

01:41:21.580 So again, guys,

01:41:22.380 quick announcements.

01:41:22.920 Tomorrow,

01:41:23.280 we're going to,

01:41:23.700 no Fresh to Fit tomorrow.

01:41:25.300 We're going to have

01:41:25.820 Fresh to Fit for you guys

01:41:26.640 on Tuesday.

01:41:27.980 Okay.

01:41:28.340 Money Monday

01:41:28.780 will be moved to Tuesday.

01:41:30.060 We're going to talk

01:41:30.460 about entrepreneurship,

01:41:31.000 and then we're also

01:41:32.080 going to talk

01:41:32.600 with the lovely ladies

01:41:33.660 for After Hours

01:41:34.780 that night.

01:41:35.400 And then also, guys,

01:41:38.300 who knows?

01:41:39.200 Maybe I might do

01:41:39.960 a second episode

01:41:40.520 for y'all tomorrow.

01:41:41.300 Who knows if I got some time?

01:41:43.540 Someone says

01:41:44.020 five-star sports betting.

01:41:45.300 Tits McGee reveal.

01:41:46.580 They want to see your,

01:41:48.000 well, you know what?

01:41:48.800 If we're going to do this,

01:41:50.520 I need y'all to like

01:41:51.240 the goddamn video 0.51

01:41:51.920 if we're going to do this.

01:41:52.580 If you guys want to see

01:41:53.340 her breast reduction,

01:41:54.440 which actually looks very good.

01:41:55.740 Thank you.

01:41:56.860 Go ahead and like

01:41:57.660 the goddamn video right now. 0.70

01:41:59.080 We got 2.6 K

01:42:00.200 y'all watching right now

01:42:01.180 down to 2.5.

01:42:02.460 Actually, yeah, no,

01:42:03.240 sorry, 2.5.

01:42:03.960 But get me to 2,200 likes

01:42:06.200 and we'll show you guys

01:42:07.800 the work that she did.

01:42:09.800 Yeah.

01:42:10.320 Dudes are saying this.

01:42:11.680 Look, it is.

01:42:12.680 Show the tits. 1.00

01:42:14.200 Show the tits. 1.00

01:42:15.160 Yeah, but we need the likes.

01:42:16.160 Yeah, we need the likes up.

01:42:17.640 All right.

01:42:20.040 And she's of age,

01:42:21.040 goddammit.

01:42:21.780 You guys better not

01:42:22.620 call me R. Kelly

01:42:23.240 in this shit.

01:42:24.340 She's opposite.

01:42:25.320 She's double the age.

01:42:26.760 I feel like a cougar.

01:42:29.080 Yo, yeah,

01:42:29.960 you feel like a cougar

01:42:30.720 compared to this shit.

01:42:31.320 At this point, yeah.

01:42:33.960 Oh, man.

01:42:35.180 I feel like their mother.

01:42:36.640 Okay, that's fucking hilarious.

01:42:40.000 Did he get offered a plea?

01:42:41.040 Yeah, guys,

01:42:41.480 they always get offered pleas.

01:42:43.400 You know,

01:42:43.640 the government never wants

01:42:44.380 to go to trial, bro.

01:42:45.040 They're always gonna

01:42:45.960 offer a plea.

01:42:48.340 You know what I'm saying?

01:42:48.860 So that's what it is.

01:42:49.620 Hey, shout out to Zoukai, 1.00

01:42:50.660 member of the team.

01:42:52.120 Let me make sure here

01:42:52.980 that I didn't.

01:42:54.040 No, she ain't 36, guys.

01:42:55.020 She's 29.

01:42:55.980 She's 29.

01:42:56.540 I'm just being funny.

01:42:57.380 Yeah, they can't give me

01:42:58.340 29, guys.

01:43:00.740 All right.

01:43:01.000 Well, I guess you guys

01:43:01.740 will have to catch it

01:43:02.220 on the next show.

01:43:03.400 But anyway,

01:43:04.160 because we didn't

01:43:05.420 hit our number.

01:43:06.800 It's fine.

01:43:08.080 But don't worry, guys.

01:43:08.740 You guys are gonna see.

01:43:09.720 Denise is gonna be hanging, 1.00

01:43:10.660 coming around more

01:43:11.500 for these FEDA episodes.

01:43:13.320 So, you know,

01:43:14.360 as you guys,

01:43:14.860 our schedules kind of conflict,

01:43:16.080 which is why you guys

01:43:16.540 haven't seen her in a while.

01:43:17.620 But I'll catch you guys.

01:43:20.140 If we don't do a show tomorrow,

01:43:21.800 I'll catch you guys Tuesday.

01:43:23.720 Love y'all.

01:43:24.520 Like the video.

01:43:25.460 Okay?

01:43:25.980 Right now,

01:43:26.480 like the video.

01:43:27.140 And we'll catch you guys

01:43:28.040 tomorrow.

01:43:28.900 Sorry, Tuesday.

01:43:30.300 Love y'all.

01:43:31.420 Okay?

01:43:31.660 Leave a comment below as well.

01:43:33.040 Helps with the engagement

01:43:33.760 quite a bit.

01:43:35.280 And yeah,

01:43:36.080 hope you guys enjoyed that one.

01:43:37.520 Peace.

01:43:38.840 NCIS.

01:43:39.340 Okay.

01:43:41.040 All right.

01:43:42.160 Let's break this down, too.

01:43:43.960 Okay.

01:43:44.320 So, NCIS,

01:43:45.780 Army CID,

01:43:46.760 or AKM.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - October 16, 2022

Former Fed Explains WHY R. Kelly got 30 YEARS In Prison...

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