Breaking down the most sensationalized case in U.S. history. The case of O.J. Simpson being tried for the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and the subsequent trial of his former high school basketball teammate, Ron Goldman.
00:02:54.800You got a famed former NFL star turned actor turned sponsored athlete with Hertz, you know, accused of murdering his wife, okay, who was a Caucasian attractive woman, by the way, and another Caucasian male in cold blood, man.
00:03:13.220And the violence, and we're going to talk about this in a documentary.
00:03:16.600We're going to react to a documentary.
00:03:17.540I got a couple documentaries here, actually, that we're going to react to.
00:03:42.580O.J. Simpson is Orenthel James Simpson, born July 1947, nicknamed the Juice, is an American football, former football running back, broadcaster, and convicted felon who played for the Buffalo Bills and San Francisco 49ers of the NFL.
00:03:56.520Once a private figure with the U.S. public, he is now best known for being tried for the murders of his former wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ron Goldman.
00:04:05.320Simpson was acquitted of the murders of criminal court, was later found responsible for both deaths in a civil trial.
00:04:10.700And we're going to talk about that here in a little bit.
00:04:13.360He went to USC, guys, where he was a star.
00:04:15.700He played for the Trojans, won the Heisman Trophy in 1968, played professionally as running back in the NFL for 11 seasons, primarily with the Buffalo Bills from 1969 to 1977.
00:04:24.960He also played for the San Francisco 49ers from 78 to 79 in 1973, became the first NFL player to rush for more than 2,000 yards in a season.
00:04:33.960He holds the record for the single-season yards per game average, which stands at 143.1.
00:04:41.280He was the only player to rush for over 2,000 yards in the 14-game regular season NFL format.
00:04:46.220Simpson was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1983 and the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1985 after retiring from football, began a new career in acting and football broadcasting.
00:04:56.840And, you know, and then this goes into the case, which we'll go ahead and that's obviously going to be summarized later on.
00:05:03.500Now we got his wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, guys, okay, which he met her when she was 18, guys, at a restaurant.
00:05:10.480She was, I think, either a server or a greeter, a hostess.
00:05:15.080She was the ex-wife of former professional American football player O.J. Simpson, whom she was married to from 1985 to 1992.
00:05:22.220She was born in 59, guys, so she died at 35.
00:05:24.620She was the mother of their two children, Sidney and Justin.
00:05:28.880Two years after her divorce from Simpson, Brown was stabbed to death at her Los Angeles home on June 12, 1994, along with her friend, waiter, Ron Goldman.
00:05:36.400Okay, Simpson, who had a history of physically abusing and making death threats towards Brown, was arrested and accused of both killings.
00:05:43.320Following a controversial, highly publicized criminal trial, which included evidence linking Simpson to the murders, Simpson was acquitted of all charges.
00:05:49.580He was later found liable for both deaths in a civil lawsuit in 1997.
00:05:52.680Okay, what do you guys mean by, like, liable?
00:05:55.620Okay, so in civil court, guys, the burden of proof is far less.
00:05:59.740In a criminal case, it's beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:06:01.900In a civil case, it's preponderance of the evidence, which just pretty much means 51%, okay?
00:06:07.360If you can prove 51% that you were liable, bam, you're going to be found liable, and that's how civil cases are typically done.
00:06:13.660So, obviously, they weren't able to convict them in the criminal court, but they had more than enough information in the civil court.
00:06:20.240And we're going to talk about a key piece of evidence that they used in the civil trial that they did not use in the criminal trial in the civil case, okay?
00:06:28.880So we're going to talk about that as well.
00:06:30.400Man, I did my homework, so we're ready to go.
00:06:40.980So, obviously, this is a prerecorded broadcast.
00:06:43.220You guys are going to catch this one probably later on in the week, but make sure to check out that Trump broadcast as well.
00:06:47.800So now let's go into Ron Goldman here.
00:06:51.320So, Ron Goldman, okay, Ronald Life Goldman, born July 2nd, 1968 to 1994, was an American restaurant waiter and a friend of Nicole Brown Simpson,
00:07:00.220the ex-wife of the American football player O.J. Simpson.
00:07:02.460He was murdered along with Brown at her home in Los Angeles, California, on June 12th, 1994.
00:07:07.240Simpson was acquitted of the killings in 1995 but found liable for both deaths in a 1997 civil lawsuit.
00:07:12.320I want to make a quick note here with this guy.
00:07:14.680Guys, 6'1", trained in martial arts, okay?
00:07:18.140We're going to talk about that's going to be important here very soon, okay?
00:07:21.440And I have a bombshell of a theory of what I think actually happened on June 12th, 1994.
00:07:27.060It takes different facets from different facts, from different perspectives, but I think I have a pretty damn good idea on what happened on that fateful night,
00:07:37.640and I will go ahead and reveal that for you guys at the end of the broadcast, so stay tuned, and I will give it to you guys.
00:07:42.900You guys know I'm a former Fed, so I was able to basically look at all the different documentaries.
00:07:47.500I looked at the gruesome murder photos, which I actually have here in this tab, which I'm reluctant to show y'all because it is really bad, guys.
00:07:54.400I mean, I don't even know if it's safe for YouTube, but maybe I'll show you guys later on.
00:07:59.500But, yeah, these photographs were bad.
00:08:02.020But anyway, let's go ahead and get into, guys, the documentary, okay?
00:08:09.620And I'm going to be pausing this thing as we go through it.
00:09:16.100When this verdict broke, literally, all the black people were going crazy.
00:09:21.960All the white people were pissed as fuck.
00:09:24.580And it was just wild, guys, because you got to keep in mind, let's go ahead and look at the atmosphere of the United States in the mid-90s.
00:11:37.780So this was a very pivotal era in race relations between blacks and whites in the United States.
00:11:42.880And for it to happen in Los Angeles with a black and white couple, for Nicole Simpson to be murdered the way that she was,
00:11:48.740with the violence and the grotesque atmosphere that they were found in, guys, you know, it's literally the makings of literally like a thriller.
00:11:57.840You know, this is like some shit out of, legitimately, literally out of Hollywood.
00:12:01.520So when these verdicts came down, it was wild.
00:12:06.000And speaking of which, by the way, this is Rob Kardashian right here.
00:12:08.840This is Kim Kardashian's father, a close friend of O.J. Simpson and also an attorney.
00:12:13.860He was a part of this dream team, which we're going to talk about here in a second.
00:12:17.160But the world has not been told the full story.
00:16:08.200And Nicole Simpson had a slash of her throat that went all the way down into the vertebral column, three millimeters into the vertebral column.
00:16:15.380Guys, in English, that means she was nearly decapitated.
00:16:18.740OK, literally the like the spinal cord basically is where they cut into the person that did this, which requires enormous force and strength.
00:16:28.460OK, and we're going to talk about this a little bit later on when it comes to the predictions.
00:16:33.180But no one, absolutely no one deserves to die in that way.
00:16:37.200You know, I mean, yeah, you know, recipes to her.
00:16:42.400And obviously, you know, she was she was a mother of two at the time when she passed away.
00:16:47.160And to be killed in that fashion is unacceptable, you know, but we're going to talk about the theories and who I think actually did this.
00:17:11.040The detectives that arrived at Nicole's house on Bundy Drive in the early hours of the morning faced a forensic jigsaw puzzle.
00:17:22.840There was a left-handed leather glove covered in blood, bloody footprints and five drops of blood heading away from the scene to the rear of the property.
00:18:22.120OK, we talk about this all the time on obviously the Fresh Fit podcast.
00:18:27.020If you guys don't know the visceral rage that this causes in men when they're a woman or, you know, whether the girl that they're with or a former lover is with other males.
00:18:39.680As you can see, this guy right here is grabbing her by the breasts, kissing her neck.
00:18:44.560And keep in mind, guys, that OJ married Nicole when she was 18.
00:18:49.260OK, and they basically broke it off when she was in her early 30s.
00:18:56.220So he was with her for a significant amount of time from 77 all the way into the early 90s.
00:19:34.500And I guess, you know, drugs would do that.
00:19:36.300You know, here she is one moment, a faithful wife, dedicated, you know, loving.
00:19:43.040The next, like I said, the rumors you hear, she's doing coke or she's sleeping around.
00:19:47.420And and it was it was the whole thing that it was it was really it was it was very sad.
00:19:53.560And this was the rumors that were going on.
00:19:55.620And the thing is, is that O.J. actually, guys, because I had done a bunch of research for this, watching other documentaries, reading things, whatever it may be.
00:20:02.360O.J. had seen her having sex with someone else when he had went to her home.
00:20:06.540OK, they were still hooking up after the divorce.
00:20:08.820He went to her home one time on Bundy Drive, was going to go ahead and try to, you know, get some and saw her hooking up with a guy in a silhouette.
00:20:17.100But and obviously that's going to enrage him.
00:20:20.000Right. Like, I mean, even if you're divorced or whatever, that's going to piss you off.
00:20:23.140This is a woman that you have children with that you've been with for a very long time.
00:20:26.960So, again, you guys think I'm kidding around.
00:25:09.160If you go 1994, right, versus 1947, OJ was damn near 50 years old at the time of this murder, okay?
00:25:19.940So he's going ahead and fighting with someone that's 20 years his junior, okay, in better shape, 6-4-1, about the same height as Juice, okay, a.k.a. OJ Simpson.
00:25:30.560Well, he's a formidable opponent, which explains the blood all over the place.
00:25:35.900And the attacker definitely got bruised up to a degree.
00:25:39.680I mean, Ron Goldman had stab wounds in his leg because he was kicking this guy.
00:25:44.640He had an enormous amount of defensive wounds, guys, okay?
00:25:49.280And the defensive wound, guys, is basically a wound that indicates that you were in an altercation defending yourself from an attacker, right?
00:25:57.540So a lot of the times you'll get defensive wounds on your hands, right, scrapes and cuts, et cetera, because you're trying to keep yourself from getting cut up in anywhere vital.
00:26:06.220So not only did he have a lot of defensive wounds, he had a lot of wounds that basically was indicative of someone legitimately fighting this guy back, okay?
00:26:16.300So the attacker definitely got fucked up to a degree.
00:26:22.100The other person is doing everything that he can to quiet him and kill him.
00:28:53.200So, you know, you can keep the door open in areas like this.
00:28:56.840There's obviously a speaker phone, and she knows who her visitor is.
00:29:01.460Literally, the assailant has to come from the patio area, or the physical arrangements of the subjects make no sense.
00:29:08.860The way he attacks them immobilizes them both.
00:29:12.440He hits the right side of Mr. Goldman's face with his left hand and does so very hard.
00:29:18.180There's a substantial bruise on the right side of his face.
00:29:21.360Simultaneously, or very soon thereafter, we believe the assailant hits Nicole Simpson on the left side of her face with the butt of his knife, the pommel.
00:29:32.120And that knocks her right side of her head into the wall.
00:29:35.620We believe that knocks her out, which enables the assailant now to come down and deal with the number one threat, which is the young, able, and in pretty good shape Mr. Goldman.
00:29:46.120We postulate that he puts the point of the knife behind Mr. Goldman's head and actually uses the knife like a fork with his hand over the mouth to raise Mr. Goldman to his feet.
00:29:56.020The medical examiner has testified that that wound alone would have been sufficient to kill Mr. Goldman if nothing else had been done to him.
00:30:03.740It's obvious from the medical evidence that the assailant has a hand over Mr. Goldman's mouth, is having a talk with Mr. Goldman, and is emphasizing his points with the knife.
00:30:42.120Okay, so this right here, again, I'm showing you all this because this is what the prosecution was trying to articulate in their argument, which honestly was a big part of why they took a L in this case in general.
00:31:42.100It's clear, again, that the assailant is talking to Nicole Simpson.
00:31:46.260The reason we know this is before the final fatal cut of her throat, there are three other small cuts on her throat, parallel to where the fatal blow is going to be administered.
00:32:00.360The final cut across her throat is going to be delivered with her head caught substantially back.
00:32:07.760And the strength in that cut is enormous.
00:32:12.000And by that I mean she is going to receive a single slice to the front of the throat that is going to be so deep it is going to nick her spinal cord.
00:32:20.560That requires tremendous strength for a...
00:32:51.640Which is why he was able to hide there in the first place, because obviously it is dark as hell, and they didn't even see the assailant come up.
00:32:57.740He obviously had the element of surprise attacking them.
00:33:00.820Otherwise, you know, Rod Goldman would have been able to, you know, much better defend himself.
00:33:10.640He can't feel anything through the gloves.
00:33:13.060He has to take the gloves off to feel for the wool cap.
00:33:15.960By taking off both gloves and not being careful about it, he actually ends up leaving a glove behind and not retrieving the wool cap.
00:33:23.000We speculate that something disturbed him in his search and cut it short, whether it be a dog barking or some neighbor's voice or something.
00:33:31.580When the investigators arrive, they're going to...
00:33:33.840And that's actually how they were able to find Nicole Simpson's body was through her dog barking and blood prints on the paws.
00:33:41.140They find Nicole's body in this position, Mr. Goldman's in this one.
00:33:44.240They're going to find the knit skull cap here.
00:33:46.200They're going to find a glove very close by it.
00:33:50.380And his keys are all going to be found in these...
00:33:53.680And guys, pay attention to that hat and glove.
00:33:57.540We're going to revisit that here later on, which will be a critical component as to my theory on what I think really happened on that night.
00:34:28.800We believe this to be the most detailed reconstruction done to date.
00:34:34.600We hope it remains the standard by which all other reconstructions are judged by, even the prosecutions.
00:34:39.440Of course, an animation from the O.J. Simpson defense team would show a different conclusion.
00:34:44.080But for this animation, failure investigators used evidence presented in court, autopsy reports, and detailed data they gathered from the scene of the murders.
00:34:52.400The medical evidence is literally the most important to establishing this scenario of the crime.
00:34:59.380The choreography, the movement of the characters through the scene, has been driven by the medical evidence because the choreography has to produce the wounds, and they have to be produced in a certain order.
00:35:36.100And with, I believe the number is 26 African-American hairs in it, there doesn't seem to be any contrary testimony or even dispute over the hat as belonging to the assailant.
00:35:49.360So we merely followed the physical evidence of the scene.
00:36:51.240And just so you guys know, and I'll go ahead and pull this up on a map for y'all to show you guys how close they actually were to each other.
00:36:58.000But now the police are rolling up to go ahead and let OJ know,
00:37:00.940Hey, listen, your wife was just murdered.
00:37:02.880And they are worried that he might be the next victim, okay?
00:37:09.060He had to be informed, but as the ex-husband, he was also a potential suspect.
00:37:15.120On their arrival, Detective Mark Furman told his colleagues that he'd found a speck of blood on the door of Simpson's white Ford Bronco, which was parked outside.
00:37:26.820The detective then went on to the property and found that Simpson had left for Chicago a few hours before at 11 p.m.
00:37:33.560During their search of the house, Detective Furman said he found a right-handed glove covered in blood.
00:37:39.780So, Detective Mark Furman is the one that discovered this glove at Rockingham outside of OJ Simpson's house.
00:37:50.440And I also want to let you guys know as well that an interesting point was what happened was they showed up to the house and they couldn't get an answer out of anybody.
00:37:59.120So, Furman went ahead and scaled the fence and went to the front door to go ahead and try to get a hold of somebody.
00:39:38.840So that's why they scaled the fence and they were able to go ahead, get inside, and talk to the resident and then to establish where OJ was.
00:39:46.480And then that's when the resident, right, the friend at the guest house told Furman, I heard some noise over here.
00:39:53.140So that gives him the ability to go, okay, let me investigate, make sure that someone isn't on this property, whatever.
00:40:17.080There's exceptions to the Fourth Amendment.
00:40:18.860And one of them, guys, is, you know, imminent danger of, you know, bodily, serious bodily harm, et cetera.
00:40:25.100So if I have information that someone is going to go ahead and they're in danger or whatever, I can break into the home to go ahead and rescue that person, okay?
00:40:35.280That is an exception to the Fourth Amendment rule.
00:40:37.780So that's how he was able to get onto the property and not have an issue.
00:40:42.100And then he goes to investigate, makes contact with someone there.
00:40:45.380That person tells him, hey, I heard a noise in this vicinity.
00:41:08.400That person gives him more, how do I say this, more evidence, more probable cause, right?
00:41:14.220Or reasonable suspicion, whatever you want to say here in this case.
00:41:17.700More probable cause, we'll just say that.
00:41:19.280To go ahead and further investigate to make sure that there isn't someone trespassing on the property trying to find and or hurt O.J. Simpson.
00:41:27.420And that's how he came across the glove.
00:41:29.440For any of you guys out there, they're like, well, how did the cops, how were they able to, you know, hop the fence, open the gate, get in there?
00:41:36.720Isn't that a violation of the Fourth Amendment?
00:41:40.120And under normal pretenses, you would be correct.
00:41:42.820However, remember, guys, we're not judged on, police officers are not judged on 20-20 hindsight.
00:41:47.600They're judged on what were the facts known to them at the time.
00:41:50.800Okay, they show up to a murder scene, wife and friend brutally murdered.
00:41:55.040Holy shit, we don't know who the hell this is.
00:41:57.440We might have a crazy serial killer on the house.
00:41:59.300Who's going to be the next likely victim?
00:42:52.960To go inside the home and find the droplets of blood, et cetera.
00:42:57.360And as the sun is rising, they're able to see the droplets of blood on the main property, on the sidewalk.
00:43:02.840A few hours later, Detective Bert Looper supervised the search for more clues.
00:43:09.620In particular, the bedroom I wanted to see was the master bedroom, which was OJ's.
00:43:14.840And I have the photographer take several photographs before we even go in, one of which indicated some socks in front of the bed on the floor.
00:43:25.760At first, no one noticed that the socks were bloody.
00:43:30.660When those socks were examined with high-intensity light, there was a lot of blood because around the ankle of one of them was 19 projected spatters of blood all the way around.
00:44:55.220Yep, and this is, and then this is, you can see the map here.
00:44:59.920This is the old, this is, this is the new, the new way it looks now.
00:45:07.200It's been remodeled significantly, guys.
00:45:09.700And actually, they changed, they changed the address for Bundy, because obviously all the people were going around and trying to take pictures and everything else like that.
00:45:19.520And I'll go ahead and show you guys a video of what it looks like now and the difference, but obviously very, very close, okay?
00:45:31.280And this is the famous tree that they used to distinguish, which I'll show you guys that later.
00:45:35.420But the main point of that was to show you guys how close the addresses were to each other.
00:45:49.660Simpson flew back from Chicago to face a house full of police and a story that was breaking all over the world.
00:45:57.660The detectives in charge of the case, Tom Lang and partner Phil Vanatta, immediately spotted what they thought was a vital clue.
00:46:05.960And keep in mind, guys, that Mark Furman was one of the last detectives to show up, okay, on the crime scene in the, in the, in the first place.
00:46:15.120I think there were 13 detectives there, 13 or 15 detectives, and he was somewhere after 10.
00:46:21.480We not only wanted a statement from him, an attempt to glean inconsistencies down the road, but his hand was bleeding.
00:48:19.740There was nothing that pointed in another direction.
00:48:22.140So, exculpatory, guys, means evidence that shows that it could have been someone else.
00:48:27.340What they're saying is that there was no other – there wasn't evidence that identified anyone else as the potential perpetrator, which I'll be honest with y'all.
00:48:36.240There was definitely evidence that pointed that it could have been someone else involved, which we're going to get into later on in this podcast when I give you guys my breakdown of what I think actually happened,
00:48:46.640which I think actually aligns a lot more with the forensic evidence that was found, the wound patterns, et cetera, because I've been doing quite a bit of digging on this case, and I have my theory.
00:48:56.280But we're going to save that for the end.
00:48:57.420And here you can see, guys, by the way, here is O.J. Simpson broadcasting.
00:49:00.740I think this is for MSNBC or something, and there's Nicole in the back.
00:49:04.380I think pointed one direction, and that's Simpson.
00:49:07.040Okay, so let's go ahead and get into part two here.
00:49:26.140As you guys know, I had to break it up because, obviously, the quality was better when it was chopped up versus, like, one of the streams that – one of the videos that had the best – that had it all, but it was, like, 360.
00:49:48.240Four days after the murders, the police issued a warrant for Simpson's arrest.
00:49:52.400And just so you guys know, Simpson was arrested in 1989 on a domestic violence charge against Nicole, but the police had been called there, like, eight to nine times prior.
00:50:34.300That could be the reason why the police were called so many different times, and they didn't actually arrest him until 1989, but they definitely did have their arguments, okay?
00:50:43.880You know, it generated from both sides.
00:50:45.880You know, both parties definitely antagonized each other.
00:51:30.700It's not like, you know, we have television like nowadays where everything is live streaming and everything is like live television back then was kind of like it's not like it is now.
00:52:26.060No matter what the outcome, people will look and point.
00:52:31.500And this is how Kim Kardashian got famous, by the way, guys.
00:52:33.860Her father was famous because he was a very close friend of O.J. Simpson.
00:52:37.260And, you know, him reading this letter is actually like was was kind of like something that made him famous, you know, because at the time this was the biggest thing going on.
00:52:49.880So this brought the Kardashians into the limelight.
00:54:33.620Jason was, I think, the older of that pair.
00:54:36.700Correct me if I'm wrong, if I chat, but Jason was from a prior marriage.
00:54:43.040He was in no way affiliated or associated to Nicole Simpson, which we're going to talk about that a little bit later.
00:54:49.260In his own words, a depressed, lost man.
00:54:55.840In the months that followed, the police continued to build their case.
00:54:59.740They believed that Simpson had driven over to Bundy and had either stalked Nicole or been driven by Goldman's arrival into a fit of jealous rage.
00:55:15.240The detectives believed that he had then brutally murdered them both before driving back to his home, spreading blood in his Bronco as he went.
00:55:23.680The Bronco was a key crime scene in its own right.
00:55:26.620Rod Englert examined the vehicle when it was taken apart.
00:55:34.800When the detectives approached the white Bronco that was parked outside of the Rockingham Street address,
00:55:40.200there was a transfer of blood pattern on the Bronco door that was consistent with the bleeding left hand of O.J. Simpson.
00:55:46.980It's less than a half inch wide, a little over a quarter inch wide.
00:55:49.780It's more consistent with when he reaches up and touches that to open the door.
00:55:57.820And that pattern is also consistent with the pattern on the inside of the door well where you open the door to get out.
00:56:03.920The forensic team found Simpson's blood by the driver's door, on the driver's side carpet, on the seats, the instrument panel, and on the steering wheel.
00:56:13.260But it was the discovery of Nicole Brown's and Ron Goldman's blood, particularly on the center console, that clinched it.
00:56:20.920For Englert and the team, it appeared to prove that Simpson had been involved in the crime.
00:56:25.440So that's some pretty damning evidence.
00:56:27.660And here's the iconic photo right here of O.J. Simpson that has been, you know, circulated everywhere.
00:56:34.280If there is any doubt in anybody's mind about this person not committing this crime, I mean, then they have a real problem with reality.
00:56:45.000I need something to point in another direction.
00:56:48.220I need something substantive that says someone else did or could have done this crime.
00:57:58.500So the police are like, we got our man.
00:58:00.380For the police, a mountain of evidence showed that Simpson was the murderer.
00:58:12.200But is their case really so conclusive?
00:58:14.740Not only is there significant evidence pointing away from Simpson, but it's also now clear from the new research for this film that there is evidence that the police dismissed or ignored.
00:58:26.380One private detective has followed it up, and what he has discovered puts the crime in a completely new light.
00:58:34.740Okay, so before we get into this private eye that, you know, did his own independent investigation, I'm going to let you all go ahead and, you know, see what you guys think as far as, like, what his findings and everything else like that.
00:58:53.900But I will give you guys my theory at the end that combines all aspects of this.
00:58:58.940And just so you guys know from earlier, I didn't get a chance to show you guys this exactly, but I will show you guys this real fast because I want to let you guys know that Ron Goldman 100% was fighting this attacker.
00:59:14.900As you guys can see, look at the cut on his leg, okay?
00:59:18.440This was from him kicking the individual.
00:59:21.000And, you know, viewer discretion is advised obviously here, you know, but you can see right here a significant amount of blood is on this leg.
00:59:28.780Because he kicked the fuck out that guy.
00:59:30.600And then the guy stabbed him, the attacker.
00:59:56.360They saw the bloody glove behind the bungalow at OJ's and they put two and two together.
01:00:02.840And with a little bit of blood found in the Bronco and a little bit of blood that was found on the driveway, I think they made up their mind very quickly that it was OJ.
01:00:10.900And from that point on, they went no further.
01:00:14.940And we know that there's, like, some evidence that shows otherwise, right?
01:00:22.000For example, the African-American hairs that were on the ball cap or on the hat, not OJ's, okay?
01:00:28.060They found blood, okay, guys, at the scene that did not match OJ's, okay, guys?
01:00:36.500In Nicole's fingernails, which we're going to talk about that as a part of her defensive wounds.
01:00:41.220We're going to talk about that a little bit as well.
01:00:43.160So there was a considerable amount of evidence and things that also was exculpatory, which the prosecution did not necessarily highlight, okay?
01:00:53.600And we're going to go ahead and start to look at some of the, start attacking the evidence a little bit as the defense was able to do and get OJ off the hook.
01:01:06.340I felt that in my mind, maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong here.
01:01:13.820And again, stay tuned till the end of the podcast.
01:01:16.120I'm going to give you guys my final thoughts on what I think really happened, okay?
01:01:21.460I'm not saying OJ's innocent, but what I will say is I definitely don't think he acted alone in this situation.
01:01:28.420We'll talk the case over with colleague Chris Stewart.
01:01:31.840I can't believe that a guilty man is going to voluntarily go down in the police car, followed by Harold Weissman, his lawyer, and say to the lawyer,
01:01:44.580I'll talk to him if I just killed two people.
01:01:46.820So why would somebody like OJ allow himself to be cross-examined, asked questions, photographed, fingerprinted, everything that they did to him if he was guilty?
01:01:56.160Well, okay, and this is where the P.I. is kind of fucking up here.
01:02:00.280Well, he wanted to know what the police knew, okay?
01:02:03.040That's a big reason why he would cooperate.
01:02:05.260Also, let's keep in mind, a big reason why the police let OJ go was because OJ, besides the cut that he had on his finger, really wasn't fucked up.
01:02:13.500He didn't get beat up to the extent that they thought someone who fought with Ron Goldman would have gotten beaten up because Ron Goldman had a significant amount of defensive wounds on him where there was a serious altercation, all right?
01:02:27.060That's another reason, too, why the police let OJ go, okay?
01:02:37.980They wanted to keep him somewhat friendly to keep him cooperative.
01:02:41.860Obviously, he was a prime suspect for them, but they wanted to go ahead and get what they needed to get, so they kept them in a friendly sense.
01:02:48.800And OJ, right, obviously not innocent in this situation, wanted to know what the hell was going on with the police, right?
01:03:33.280Yeah, they changed it to 879 Bundy, guys, because so many people were going there trying to look for it like 875 Bundy, so they were able to go ahead and get the address changed, but people still know where it's located.
01:03:44.920And this is the exit from which OJ left, allegedly, okay?
01:03:49.880Well, Nat, this is the way it was when I arrived about three weeks after the murders.
01:03:55.280And that night, I came back, posted Chris across the street in the car to watch out and watch for my back, and hiked myself up over the fence.
01:04:04.800I came down the steps, walked the narrow passageway, up steps, down steps, and there I'm standing there by her door.
01:04:10.580And I'm looking now, and I still see some blood there.
01:04:15.700And all of a sudden, I'm looking at what I've been told by the press, that he was hiding behind the bushes, and I'm saying, he can't be hiding behind the bushes.
01:04:22.400There's a brick wall there, separating one neighbor to the other.
01:04:27.140There had to be a lot of commotion and a lot of screaming, because these people were fighting for their life.
01:04:32.820Ron Goldman was a young man, fighting for his life.
01:04:35.660The Cole was young, didn't want to die.
01:04:37.540Well, upstairs, you had two minor children.
01:04:40.260I think that's one of the things that really bothered me all along.
01:04:47.220I could no more picture myself coming here, killing some, either my ex-wife or whatever.
01:04:53.760Well, you also got to remember, my friend, that OJ was mad as fuck because he knew that she was out here smashing dudes, doing cocaine.
01:05:00.600They also had arguments, guys, because OJ did not like the people that she was hanging out with.
01:05:04.760And the Cole guys was hanging out at that Italian restaurant I told you all about, the Mezzalula, or I'm probably butchering that, sorry, which had some nefarious people that were working there, so to speak, without me going into too much detail.
01:05:19.040So OJ had issues with the types of people that she was surrounding herself with, and he was mad because he didn't want the kids to be around these types of people.
01:05:27.060Okay, so they had a lot of arguments on that as well.
01:05:29.820Leaving my two minor children to walk out and see the mother, the Cole, lying there with her head nearly decapitated, and Ron Goldman laying against the fence, bleeding all over the place with his eyes wide open.
01:05:43.980Another thing that was funny, and the people that we talked to, they all said to me, did you know that OJ, it bothers him, the sight of blood?
01:05:57.000A weapon such as a knife is a weapon of choice.
01:06:00.040OJ could have done anything other than use a knife if he was afraid of blood.
01:06:04.280If you're going to use a knife, you're going to be cutting somebody.
01:06:08.540Yeah, but that could be, you know, overridden by your rage and hate for someone, you know.
01:06:17.220So, again, this PI, he misses, but he definitely hits on some things as well.
01:06:22.800He brings some really, really interesting investigative points during the course of his independent investigation, which we're going to get into here very shortly.
01:06:29.200They arrested OJ right after he came back from the trip.
01:06:37.260To me, when they examined him, there should have been some bruises on him that were indicative of a fight.
01:07:21.220There's marks on the bottom of Goldman's tennis shoes.
01:07:23.620There's a mark across the canvas top of it where he's trying to kick out, trying to defend himself in the karate motions, in the defensive posture that he's been taught.
01:07:32.320And you guys can see, like I showed you guys earlier, the blood on the leg.
01:07:36.260How did he get stabbed in the leg like that?
01:09:12.060And I was trained when I was in the law enforcement academy, guys, that when you're dealing with a knife and a knife fight, right, the adrenaline a lot of times, you won't even know you've been stabbed.
01:09:20.580All you feel is like something warm, okay?
01:09:23.160And that's your blood, obviously, but your adrenaline is going crazy.
01:09:26.840He's punching the fuck out of this guy.
01:09:28.680You don't get bruises like that on your knuckles without being in a serious fight.
01:09:34.300Like I said before, the cut on the leg, how are you going to get that?
01:09:37.380He was probably fighting, kicking, et cetera, and the guy was stabbing the leg, okay?
01:09:43.020And then you could see crazy blood all over the place in that area and where they were fighting.
01:09:47.900Could I have done this fight without any bruises whatsoever on my body?
01:09:54.160What would be the least I could walk away from?
01:09:57.040The least you could walk away from would maybe be a black eye, some bruised ribs, maybe even broken ribs.
01:10:05.420But when Simpson was examined shortly after the murders, no injuries or bruises were found.
01:10:46.880He held her with his arm around her neck.
01:10:51.420She, with her long acrylic fingernails, tried to get his arm off, inflicting those wounds, which by location on the fingers corresponded to that kind of a grasp.
01:11:05.680But even if they were fingernail marks, Goldman or Nicole couldn't have caused them.
01:13:48.360The police and the prosecution were adamant that Simpson had carried out the murder in a spontaneous fit of jealous rage.
01:13:54.960And yet they also believed that Simpson wore the gloves that had been found, suggesting a premeditated attack.
01:14:02.780But even this wasn't the most disturbing aspect of the police case.
01:14:06.540There were serious questions about the reliability of the evidence against Simpson of the crime scenes.
01:14:14.460One of the world's most respected forensic analysts is Dr. Henry Lee.
01:14:19.280Acting for the defense, he examined the scenes at first hand.
01:14:22.560And Henry Lee, legend, when it comes to blood splatter type evidence, etc., testified in several trials.
01:14:30.480This is, I think, one of the few times he actually testified on the behalf of the defense.
01:14:34.380You know, and that goes to show you guys the power of OJ's defense team.
01:14:38.820Shapiro was able to get Henry to testify on their side.
01:14:41.900And, you know, he gave some compelling testimony that aided the defense to show that, you know, again, guys, the job of the defense is to go ahead and create reasonable doubts, okay?
01:14:54.000That is their job, create reasonable doubt for the prosecution.
01:14:58.480So let's play this and see what he was able to find.
01:15:00.500There are certain principles, crime scene principles, basic procedure violated.
01:15:07.900Everybody together, step all over the place, and step into the blood.
01:15:15.160That's why the problem is star, the contamination of the scene.
01:15:19.540The crucial issue in the case is walk all over the blood.
01:15:24.280Now you regenerate, redistribute all this pattern.
01:15:28.140So the DNA grouping could be erroneous.
01:15:31.200Shoot print pattern in that little area becomes so complicated.
01:15:40.860You really cannot tell which one from who.
01:15:45.600Peter Harper is a British specialist in this field and has reviewed the police handling of the scenes.
01:15:51.900And that was something that was criticized significantly with the LAPD, how they handled the evidence, carelessness, contamination.
01:15:59.540This was a big part of the defense's angle to go ahead and attack the defense.
01:16:05.220And, guys, this is why chain of custody is so important.
01:16:07.520This is why evidence procedure in general with law enforcement agencies all over the country were revolutionized by this investigation
01:16:17.160because the defense was able to attack something that typically is unchallengeable, forensic evidence, guys, based on the fact that it was contaminated.
01:16:24.640Or the allegation that it was contaminated, excuse me.
01:16:30.480There's about seven to nine officers milling up and down that path, and it still hasn't been forensically examined or cleared.
01:16:59.640This was actually a very difficult photo to show you guys, but I'm going to go ahead and show it here off to the side, right, so you guys don't have to see the face there.
01:18:57.800No one gets touched until everyone is able to, until they're able to properly photograph it.
01:19:02.900They're properly able to collect swab samples.
01:19:05.160They're properly able to get DNA samples, blood samples, bodily fluids, whatever the hell is there at the scene.
01:19:12.260And the coroner is not supposed to come in until way later, until the detectives and the forensic team are 100% done and do what they need to do.
01:19:45.980So you've cross-contaminated all three scenes.
01:19:49.980There are also major concerns about the blood evidence in the bronco being contaminated.
01:19:55.960Incredibly, a number of officers who had been at the Bundy crime scene were reported to have been inside the bronco before it had been examined.
01:20:03.440And one of those officers had looked after Nicole's dog, whose blood-stained paws had originally led people to the victims.
01:20:12.040So that's another issue there as well, right?
01:20:14.340Because now you're having chain of custody issues.
01:20:16.480You don't know whose blood is what, where it came from, etc.
01:20:19.100So it starts to mess up the ability to recreate the crime scene.
01:20:22.140And the dog was the original person, person, the original signifier that Nicole had been murdered, guys.
01:20:29.720She got murdered somewhere around 10, between 10, 30-ish to 11-ish.
01:20:35.580And her body wasn't discovered until midnight because the dog was barking.
01:20:38.920And neighbors had found the dog with blood on its paws.
01:23:32.240Just specifically in the spots of blood and not on the socks.
01:23:36.500Let's say for argument's sake that you could get EDTA in soap powder or something like that.
01:23:41.300Well, if that was possible, then that would explain the EDTA in the blood because it was in the socks.
01:23:47.860But when the socks haven't got EDTA or any sign of it, but the blood has, speaks for itself.
01:23:57.040And that right there, guys, okay, was what the defense was able to use to articulate, oh, they planted evidence.
01:24:05.540Because the defense argument was, yo, these guys have blood, right, that has EDTA in it, a preservative used for lab testing so the blood doesn't clot.
01:24:16.360How the hell is it at these crime scenes with EDTA in it?
01:25:06.540So let's go ahead and, you know, talk about this EDTA controversial talking point that defense was able to actually effectively use to help OJ get off.
01:25:55.320According to forensic toxicologist Frederick Readers, it's present in two blood stains, one found at the scene of the crime, the other on OJ Simpson's socks.
01:26:04.540Why would those stains contain a preservative?
01:26:09.720The day after the murders, OJ Simpson willingly gave a sample of his blood to police.
01:26:14.020It was stored in test tubes containing EDTA.
01:26:18.160The defense says someone in the LAPD must have taken blood from one of the test tubes and planted it.
01:26:24.320But the prosecution points out Readers didn't do any experiments on the blood stains himself.
01:26:29.840And the investigator who did, FBI Special Agent Roger Marks, directly contradicts Readers.
01:26:35.960I concluded, based on the work that I've done on the 19th, the 22nd, and the 28th, that the blood stains in question did not come from preserved blood.
01:26:49.300They did not come from blood that was preserved with EDTA.
01:27:21.780And what does that tell you about the blood stain?
01:27:24.940Well, that means, since it is my opinion, that the blood stain contained EDTA, that that came from the blood and not from the sock.
01:27:36.560If jurors aren't buying the planted evidence theory, the defense has another, contaminated evidence.
01:27:42.700John Gerdes, a molecular biologist, offers this sweeping indictment of the facility where most of the evidence was tested.
01:27:49.140And let me just make this extremely clear.
01:27:50.900The fact that the defense was able to call someone to go ahead and go against the FBI's, you know, blood test, which they keep in mind, they actually tested the blood from the actual crime scene versus the defense's witness had not.
01:28:05.240Okay, and then they're able to bring in this guy as an expert witness, and you guys are going to see what he also says.
01:28:11.200This goes to speak the incredible skill of OJ Simpson's team at diluting the prosecution's case.
01:28:23.780Okay, remember, guys, the defense's job is not to prove that the client is innocent.
01:28:30.940Their job is to prove that the client could be innocent.
01:28:36.040Again, the defense's job is not to prove that their client is innocent.
01:28:41.000Their job is to prove that their client could be innocent because U.S. law, right, is big on innocent until proven guilty, and they would rather let a criminal walk free than imprison an innocent man.
01:28:54.780So that is what the law is, you know, that's how it's supposed to be, and if you have a good defense team, that's how it's going to be, okay?
01:29:04.080That's why it's so important to hire own counsel versus getting public defendants.
01:29:07.480They're going to go the extra mile to bring expert witnesses like this that can go ahead and do what?
01:29:13.200Dilute the prosecution's case, all right?
01:29:16.180The LAPD laboratory has a substantial contamination problem that is persistent and substantial.
01:29:28.720It is chronic, and it's chronic in the sense that it doesn't go away.
01:29:32.940I can find it month after month, and it persists.
01:29:38.860Gerdes conducted an independent investigation of the crime lab's procedures and performance.
01:29:43.520He found half to all of the tests performed there have problems.
01:29:48.200I found that the specimen handling procedures were done in such a manner that it had a tremendous, there was a tremendous risk of the potential of this cross-contamination.
01:30:00.140The prosecution counters pointing out not all the tests were performed by the LAPD.
01:30:05.720Blood samples also were sent to two outside laboratories, Cellmark Diagnostics and the State Justice Department.
01:30:12.200And this is a pretty fair, you know, the rebuttal by the prosecution.
01:30:17.200...performed at these labs also point to Simpson as the prime suspect.
01:30:22.660The defense now returns to the scene of the crime, using forensic science to attack the prosecution's timeline theory.
01:30:29.560Their witness, Dr. Michael Botten, brings impressive credentials.
01:30:33.780Besides investigating the deaths of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr.,
01:30:37.200he helped convict the man who killed civil rights leader Medgar Evers.
01:30:41.920Today, he testifies about the brutal deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman.
01:30:46.660What is the basis for your opinion that there was a struggle between Nicole Brown Simpson and her assailant or assailants prior to the time she died?
01:30:57.360Well, because there were about nine or ten stab wounds and cut wounds on her body before she suffered the fatal injury.
01:31:07.940The point of all this is to show the murders took a lot longer to commit than the two or three minutes granted by the prosecution.
01:31:14.680If the defense can show the murders took 5, 10, or 15 minutes, O.J. Simpson's window of opportunity closes.
01:31:22.700Remember, according to the limo driver, Simpson was back at his estate at 10.55 that night.
01:32:19.440Finally, the internationally renowned forensic scientist, Dr. Henry Lee, takes center stage for the defense.
01:32:26.020Hired by Robert Shapiro right after the murders, Lee is considered the nation's top forensic investigator, credited with solving 5,000 crimes.
01:32:34.780He's also famous for his courtroom theatrics.
01:32:38.940University of New Haven, you know, named one of their buildings after him, okay,
01:32:43.380because they have actually a forensic major there at UNH.
01:32:47.800Dr. Lee's tutorial style and obvious expertise hold the jurors' rapt attention, and his testimony isn't always grim.
01:33:03.180But the defense has a serious reason for putting Lee on the stand, to explain three sets of mysterious parallel lines found at the crime scene.
01:33:13.620The defense suggests they're the shoe prints of a second killer.
01:33:17.340The prosecution says that's nonsense, and the only detectable footprints are those from a pair of Bruno Mali shoes,
01:33:24.520which they contend Simpson wore when he committed the murders.
01:36:46.780You know, you can see Shapiro, Johnny Cochran, Bailey's not in here, but this is his defense team, which cost him, I think it was $10 million altogether, his defense cost him.
01:37:55.240Alan Dershowitz was a Felix Frankfurter professor, amortis at Harvard Law, and in 2013 remained one of the most successful lawyers and legal scholars in the country.
01:38:04.820After representing Simpson, he represented Julian Assange, Jeffrey Epstein, and Harvey Weinstein.
01:38:10.760He's also served as a member of the legal team for President Donald Trump during his first impeachment trial.
01:38:24.880Sheck is known for his work as co-founder and co-director of the Anderson Project, a nonprofit organization.
01:38:29.080They use DNA evidence to clear the names of wrongfully convicted inmates.
01:38:32.280This guy was instrumental at attacking the defense's forensic evidence.
01:38:38.680You know, you got Peter Newfield joined the Simpson defense team to assist with undermining the prosecution's DNA and forensic evidence.
01:38:45.040He is perhaps best known for discrediting the credibility of the blood trail between Nicole Simpson's body and O.J. Simpson's car.
01:38:50.580Another guy that was also huge in discrediting the prosecution's, you know, strategy, which was heavily, heavily reliant upon forensic evidence and blood.
01:39:04.220And then you got Gerald F. Uelman was part of O.J.'s defense team during the O.J. Simpson murder case.
01:39:10.540He says he devised a memorable line used by Johnny Cochran in the closing argument.
01:40:10.080Three or four and three or five also differed from the original analysis and three or five could only have been made with a hand wet with fresh blood.
01:40:24.320If they were made by either of Simpson's hands, then the hands had to be covered in blood from both himself and the victims.
01:40:31.100But if that's the case, then everything else he touched, like the door handle, steering wheel, or light switch, should also be smeared with the same mixture.
01:40:39.980But these smears are all just Simpson's blood alone.
01:40:44.440If the stains were made with Simpson's right hand and he was still wearing the glove, then the finger area of the glove should have his blood on the fingertips, as well as blood from the victim's.
01:40:56.140However, Simpson's blood is not found on the fingertips at all, nor is that mixture of all three of them found anywhere else in the vehicle.
01:41:03.780We both think that that blood, those finger marks, were put on that console at a later time.
01:41:11.060They were not on that console at the time of the murder.
01:41:15.200The area they're in, I would say it's impossible for those finger marks to be put onto that console without either the console being removed or the seat being removed.
01:41:23.140And the reason I say that is that the finger marks, if they were facing downwards, you might say, okay, that's a possibility.
01:41:29.200But they're not. The finger marks are facing upwards.
01:41:34.880Unless you've got an extremely flexible wrist and you can turn your hand at right angles, it's got to be your left hand, which means the elbow and forearm are going to be below the hand.
01:41:45.540They wouldn't be able to do it because they wouldn't get their elbow and forearm low enough for their hand to put the finger marks in that position.
01:41:52.980So, with serious doubts over the blood from the Bronco, the gate, and the socks, does this mean that the police were actively sweetening the case against Simpson?
01:42:05.300Numerous allegations have now surfaced about...
01:42:07.480See, and the defense can use that and run with it, guys. That's what they do.
01:42:10.440They take a little piece of information like that, and it's off to the races.
01:42:14.820Police are corrupt. They're planting evidence. Blah, blah, blah.
01:42:16.520...LAPD officers planting evidence. Detective Mark Furman, the racist officer who discovered some of the most important clues, was involved in cases where suspects were beaten and reports were falsified.
01:42:30.160Questioned under oath, he pleaded the Fifth Amendment, the only way in an American court to avoid giving an answer.
01:42:36.980The Fifth Amendment, guys, is basically the right to remain silent and not incriminate yourself. That is the Fifth Amendment in a nutshell.
01:42:43.800Detective Furman, have you ever falsified a police report?
01:42:50.180And this is Bailey right here going ahead, and, you know, this is an iconic moment in the trial when this happened.
01:42:56.540And I remember when Furman had to come in and give this testimony, right?
01:43:01.080Remember, guys, they leaked some tapes, okay?
01:43:03.300So, long story short, let's rewind this real fast so you guys understand what the hell's going on here.
01:43:09.480So, they leaked some tapes of Furman saying some racist things, okay?
01:43:13.800Dropping an N-bomb, saying we got to kill the N-bombs, etc., blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
01:43:18.980And the thing is, is that these tapes came from him auditioning for some type of acting role of some kind or some audio book or something like that.
01:43:28.560It was some kind of – he was auditioning for something.
01:43:30.740And the tapes were made available to the defense in the middle of the trial, okay?
01:43:37.760And they were able to actually introduce these tapes, okay, as pieces of evidence in the trial.
01:43:45.260However, key distinction here, the judge, okay, and I want you guys to also understand this, too, that this is very, very, very important.
01:43:53.740You guys got to understand that the jury did not see nearly as much of what the trial was actually covered by the media.
01:44:32.860Again, in context from what I understand, what I've been told, these racist comments came from him auditioning for some type of acting role or some kind of audio book, something to do like that.
01:44:42.960But, again, with his background, with him being involved in situations where there was potential misconduct with other officers, not necessarily himself, but he was involved in it, makes him look bad.
01:44:54.800And that's all the defense has to do is question your integrity and your candor.
01:45:00.880And then as soon as you are deemed to be non-credible, that's a nightmare for the prosecution, okay?
01:45:08.280So let's go ahead and play this right here.
01:45:12.960I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.
01:45:17.640Detective Furman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?
01:45:24.580I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.
01:47:09.700We learned in the criminal trial that a lead detective had a vial of Mr. Simpson's blood.
01:47:16.480That alone, in any other case less controversial than this would have been enough to have the case.
01:47:22.600If that had been discovered as it was here, then the case would be over, literally.
01:47:28.540But we learned in the civil case, which went against Mr. Simpson,
01:47:32.560nevertheless, we learned that that same senior detective had gone to the coroner's and asked for and received samples of the victim's blood.
01:47:43.400And therefore, the blood of all the principals, that's 100% of the blood types found in this case,
01:47:50.340on the fence, on the ground, on gloves, on socks, on clothing, in the car,
01:47:57.000the universe of blood in this case, samples of which were in the hands of senior, at least one senior detective.
01:48:08.880Thus, violating the chain of evidence, absolutely.
01:48:13.180Violating every safeguard, every tradition, every expectation on the part of the prisoner at the bar.
01:48:20.560Yeah, this right here, you know, again, you attack the evidence, you destroy the case.
01:48:27.260Not admitted freely, but dug out by a highly active and aggressive defense team.
01:48:34.860Simpson, would you please stand and face the jury?
01:48:36.500Again, goes back to what I was saying, the defense won this case, man.
01:48:40.240Sorry, the prosecution lost this case, the defense held on.
01:48:43.280So, despite Simpson's blood at the scene, and his lack of an alibi,
01:48:48.020there are now reasonable doubts about the evidence at all three crime scenes.
01:48:53.440And that's all they have to do, create reasonable doubt.
01:49:42.160Whatever evidence may have been manipulated, a year later Simpson faced another trial, this time in the civil courts.
01:49:50.800In this case, brought by the victims' families, dramatic new evidence emerged.
01:49:55.400The main set of bloody footprints by the bodies and down the path to the rear was made by a style of Bruno Magli shoes, of which there were only 300 pairs sold in the United States.
01:50:08.820Under oath, Simpson denied owning a pair.
01:50:11.680A photographer in Buffalo, New York, where Simpson played football for the better part of his career, heard about his testimony regarding the shoes and started rummaging through photographs that he had of O.J. Simpson.
01:50:30.060And sure enough, he has this picture of Simpson wearing what appear to be these Bruno Magli shoes.
01:50:55.760Somebody doctored the picture with digital equipment, and that is not the shoes that he wore that day.
01:51:01.680Right before the end of the trial, another photographer in Buffalo came forward with 30 more photographs of Simpson wearing the same shoes on the same day.
01:51:16.220And to top it off, a photo included in that group of 30 of him wearing the shoes was published in a newspaper put out by the Buffalo Bills organization nine months before the murders.
01:51:33.140So now we had the photo in a newspaper, a matter of public record, meaning it was impossible for anybody to have doctored these photos.
01:51:45.780Which obviously was one of the biggest pieces of evidence.
02:08:46.960He had his hands around her throat and was trying to choke her to death.
02:08:52.360Why didn't the police ever interview him?
02:08:58.200Because they were convinced that OJ was guilty.
02:09:02.060Which I'm not denying that OJ was guilty, but we're going to definitely do a little bit more investigating on this guy.
02:09:08.980And I got to give the private investigator his flowers on this one because he did a damn good job of researching the son, figuring out, you know, the son's background.
02:09:18.060And, quite frankly, the son was involved in some shit, goddammit.
02:10:02.480He feels that Jason did have a possible motive.
02:10:05.020On the night of June 12th, Nicole Simpson, Justin, Sidney, and her entire family were scheduled to arrive, not at Messaluna's, but at Jackson's Restaurant at 8908 Beverly Drive in Beverly Hills, California, for a dinner that was being prepared by Jason Simpson, OJ's son.
02:13:18.780The evidence that links him to the crime is circumstantial and there is no proof of his involvement.
02:13:23.820The police failed to examine the inconsistencies in Jason's story, but there was also another major line of inquiry that the authorities failed to follow.
02:13:39.360Believing that Simpson was the sole suspect.
02:13:41.860Okay, now we're about to get into some really crazy conspiracy theories here.
02:14:11.280They also dismissed the leads provided by Nicole and Simpson's other life involving sex and drugs, which might have provided another motive for the murders.
02:14:19.960Yes, LAPD did definitely omit this information.
02:14:23.960This case is in the West End, West L.A. or West Hollywood.
02:14:36.600And the rage of the way the homicide took place could also lead a reasonable person to conclude that it's got to be somebody crazy to do something like that.
02:14:48.160And, guys, keep in mind, okay, Nicole married OJ at – she met OJ at 18 and was in a relationship with him until 1985, and then they got married.
02:14:58.380So her entire adult life, essentially, was her being with OJ in a monogamous relationship.
02:15:04.420They didn't really start having problems until the late 90s.
02:15:06.700So when she became single in the early 90s, right, with the divorce –
02:16:04.900She became a millionaire, and then on top of that, she was making almost a quarter million dollars a year passively in today's standards, okay?
02:16:18.620So she was living a very, very high-class life.
02:16:21.720Obviously, the neighborhood that she went in in Brentwood is a high – you know, a very nice L.A. suburb, okay?
02:16:28.820So she was able to afford this lifestyle of being able to do what she wanted, having drugs, partying, et cetera, because she essentially got paid, guys, quarter million dollars a year.
02:16:39.680In today's standards, of course, it was about $120,000 a year.
02:16:43.340Back then, but she was – and she had a million dollars given up front from O.J. Simpson.
02:16:49.960That's not even counting alimony, by the way, guys.
02:16:52.080This was just from the divorce settlement in itself.
02:16:54.880I don't even know how much alimony she was getting paid.
02:16:56.480I know $10,000 a month, a.k.a. $21,000 per month in child support, okay?
02:17:02.620So she wasn't even working making this kind of money, all right?
02:17:05.540During the year before her death, Nicole and her friends were moving in drug-related circles.
02:17:13.600Mezzaluna's restaurant was widely rumored to be a place to buy drugs, and Ron Goldman was alleged to sell them.
02:17:20.880What's more, just a year before the murders, Goldman's friend and nightclub owner, Brett Cantor, was killed in a similar savage knife attack.
02:17:28.880And other waiters working for the Mezzaluna chain were murdered or went missing within 18 months.
02:17:54.320The drug game brings you around nefarious people.
02:17:57.100Even if you're doing it recreationally, you never know the people that you're involved in, how deep they are in the game,
02:18:02.800what kind of money they owe, what type of people they're involved in, what they may have seen, if they're snitching, whatever the hell it is.
02:20:18.120All the high performers I know, they don't go ahead and introduce some kind of chemical agent that's going to, you know, handicap them to becoming better versions of themselves.
02:20:26.740People that are winners just don't do that shit.
02:20:54.800I think Mr. Simpson knows basically who did it.
02:20:59.140I think his guilt is based not on what he did, but on what he did not do.
02:21:03.360I believe he feels he may have left his children as hostages to fortune.
02:21:07.080He says that he will never forgive himself for not having followed the advice of a friend of Miss Brown's who had said, get your ex-wife and your children out of here.
02:21:22.180I think he hints broadly at the context of the murder.
02:21:28.100What he does not say and what keeps him from ever clearing his name, perhaps, is that to really clear his name, he would have to speak of what he knew.
02:21:42.680And that involves drugs and all sorts of things that perhaps are more painful, almost, than being wrongfully accused of murder.
02:23:39.720The adrenaline was rushing through the entire press corps that day when all of a sudden it came out.
02:23:46.100Somebody was stalking Nicole Brown Simpson in December, and he's in jail with a diary, and one of the reasons he's in jail is for stealing Paula Barbieri's truck.
02:23:57.660Whoa, a lot of coincidences here, a lot of interest.
02:24:23.260The Los Angeles police took a lot of his story seriously, too.
02:24:27.660They sent one of their most experienced murder detectives on the case to Calipatria Prison to check it out.
02:24:33.000We flew down there and went in and talked to Mr. Waz.
02:24:42.700My objective with Mr. Waz was twofold.
02:24:45.340One, obviously, to get a handwriting exemplar that would certainly lock it down that he was, in fact, the one that wrote those entries, which he never denied.
02:24:57.360And the other was just to find out what was going on.
02:25:01.500So you have the LAPD, you know, doing good police work, you know, following up on a viable lead of a guy that potentially was stalking Nicole.
02:25:13.600But, you know, the district attorney's office was like, no, we don't want this.
02:25:31.200You know, you got a famed football, former football star, actor, you know, a loved hero in the United States, you know, record holder, former Heisman trophy holder, you know, and you can go ahead and prosecute him.
02:25:45.320Why the hell are you going to sit there and go after some dork at a jail or his bum ass son who's like a failed chef that, you know, can't even beat take out Chinese for his girlfriend?
02:25:55.300Like, why are you going to pursue these leads?
02:25:57.260No, it was OJ. He was the sole perpetrator, you know.
02:26:01.620But, you know, as you guys can see here, we're definitely picking up some steam here and some other potential situations that could have occurred.
02:26:14.580He'd been introduced to Simpson and a close friend by one of the staff in the Roxbury nightclub.
02:26:20.840So he was selling drugs to Nicole as well.
02:26:23.540He hooked me up with some people that wanted to buy some cocaine and then OJ came strolling over and he introduced himself as well.
02:26:33.060Still in prison, Waz agreed to be interviewed by telephone for this film.
02:26:37.340We exchanged numbers and they said we'd be doing business in the future and we did that from there, I guess.
02:26:42.040I mean, they weren't habitual users, they were recreational users, maybe twice a week.
02:26:46.520Waz said he delivered cocaine to Simpson and Nicole at the home on Rockingham Avenue.
02:26:52.720But more importantly, Waz also says he supplied Simpson's friend.
02:26:57.820It was this same friend who then asked him to follow Nicole and to take pictures of her with any man she'd met.
02:27:04.560No private eye, Bill Waz thought that it would be easy money.
02:27:08.120They asked me if I would do a little surveillance on OJ's wife, if she was cheating on him with any individual that she was at that time staying at the Rockingham address.
02:27:33.580Nicole's affair with American football star Marcus Allen had already caused friction.
02:27:42.060Armed with the roles of film, Waz met Simpson's friend who can't be.
02:27:46.700Here is Marcus Allen right here, guys.
02:27:48.880OK, Marcus Lamar Allen is a former American football running back, analyst and actor who played in National Football League for 16 seasons, primarily with the Los Angeles Raiders.
02:28:14.460And I think a big reason why he's probably 100 percent certain is because this guy was probably conducting surveillance for him, you know, and rumors fly in L.A.
02:28:20.760And Nicole was single, you know, so she was out here, you know, as the girls would say, single as a Pringle.
02:36:52.200Waz explained that 10 days after handing over the photographs, he had been asked by Simpson's same friend to a meeting for a new assignment.
02:37:04.260It was ventilating rage and how much she caused OJ, how she talked too much about business ventures, her sleeping with a lot of his friends.
02:37:15.120It would be safe to say that she kind of pushed the envelope a little bit there.
02:37:18.540But tonight, he also reveals that Simpson's friend then hired him as a hitman to kill Nicole.
02:37:26.500Basically made the proposition, asked him to want me to take a certain gun, which he had, which I did not take.
02:37:33.040Asked him if I would do her for, you know, get rid of her for 15 grand.
02:37:36.460And I semi accepted the responsibility to do the deed.
02:37:40.300But Waz suspected that if he killed Nicole, he would be set up as the fall guy.
02:37:44.720I believe that they'd have had me done the deed, either A, framed me for it, or B, killed me on the spot and placed me as kind of a psycho stalker of OJ's women or something.
02:37:54.440Just so you guys know, $15,000 in 1994 is equivalent in the purchasing power to about $29,987 as of today.
02:38:02.180So he would have gotten paid about $30,000 to do this hit in today's dollars.
02:42:32.280In my view, that investigation should have proceeded onward.
02:42:37.400If you go after these people and you have a solid case and you're working with a solid foundation and you're and you're doing the right things.
02:45:49.760Today, we're in Brentwood, California at the site of the O.J. Simpson murders.
02:45:54.280Now, if you believe that O.J. did it, this is where it happened.
02:45:59.460If you don't believe that, nobody knows for sure.
02:46:02.360Now, this garage door on the left was Nicole Brown Simpson's.
02:46:05.540And the gate right next to it is where supposedly O.J. went through and killed both Nicole and Ron Goldman at the far end up by up by the front of Bundy Drive.
02:46:17.840Now, this is 875 Bundy Drive, or it was when the murders happened, but now it's 879 Bundy Drive just to kind of keep people from coming and visiting this location.
02:46:56.720The original doorway was just to the right of this, and I'll show you that in a couple minutes.
02:47:01.820So this is, a lot of people mistake that as being the original.
02:47:04.280This is the original building, but you're going to see here in a second.
02:47:08.060Now, this is the original walkway, and Nicole was found just on the other side of this mesh fence here.
02:47:15.800Now, this whole walkway was torn up and taken out, and the new walkway, as you saw, was to the left of this now.
02:47:23.700But this was the walkway that was here.
02:47:26.160I don't think any of it is still original, although the stairs right there could be.
02:47:30.640But this is, this was the crime scene right here.
02:47:33.920Now, if you notice on the very left side of the photo, the palm tree that the crime scene ribbon tape is tied to is just to the left of the walkway here.
02:48:10.040So as you see from these pictures, the original crime location, the walkway, was just to the right of this palm tree and just to the left of the drain down here.
02:54:14.980And I don't know if I bleeded or didn't bleeded.
02:54:17.880It was pretty much immaterial because, you know, I was more concerned about everything that, everything that was going on, you know, and was fed up with it, I guess.
02:55:30.920And prior to the recital, OJ and Nicole had an explosive argument on the phone.
02:55:38.720And in this argument, OJ had told her that he was going to report her to the IRS for undeclared money that she had earned through the divorce and everything else.
02:55:52.220You know, it was obviously a messy divorce.
02:55:54.220He had given her a substantial amount of money, as I described to you guys earlier, about a million dollars in today's dollars to include $20,000 a month.
03:13:36.400Nicole was supposed to arrive to Jason's restaurant on that night.
03:13:39.160Yes, as you guys know, she had bookings for that restaurant.
03:13:45.280Jason wanted to speak to Nicole, but she canceled at the very last minute, which would have been enough to anger Jason in the mental condition he was in.
03:13:52.320Not to mention his dad was already pissed off at her as well.
03:13:56.140They had a heated argument about the IRS, which I told you guys before.
03:14:04.960Jason caught to OJ and told him how upset he was with Nicole.
03:14:08.540Jason was already gone when OJ arrived to the restaurant.
03:14:11.520OJ decided to head to Nicole's instead.
03:14:18.540By the time OJ got to Nicole's, it was already too late.
03:14:24.340Nicole walked to her front gate, unaware that she was about to be attacked.
03:14:30.120Jason stabbed Nicole and Rob Goldman multiple times.
03:14:33.240All that OJ could do when he got there was yank the knife away from him.
03:14:38.540According to one of Jason's ex-classmates, Jason was trained in hand-to-hand combat, as well as knife training while attending the Army and Navy Academy.
03:14:57.540And he was a chef, had a bunch of knives.
03:14:59.880The bottom end of Jason's knife found by private investigator, William C. Deer, matches the size of the wound on the back of Nicole's head.
03:15:16.940And I'll try to find you guys this picture here in a second.
03:15:19.980The bottom end of Jason's knife found by private investigator, matched the size of the wound on the back of Nicole's head.
03:15:35.380It was found at the very bottom of a storage locker owned by Jason.