The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Former Fed Exposes REAL ＂Paid In Full＂ Story

00:00:00.800 Alright guys, welcome to FedIt. Today we're going to be breaking down the real story behind Paid in Full.

00:00:05.920 Got a lot to cover, guys. It's going to be a great episode. Let's get into it, baby. New intro coming in.

00:00:12.820 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay guys? HSI.

00:00:16.200 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

00:00:22.460 This is the arrest paperwork, okay? So he turned himself in on February 13, 2019.

00:00:26.740 This charge carries a death penalty. Florida's one of the states that still has the death penalty, guys.

00:00:31.340 Facing two counts of humeditated murder.

00:00:34.680 6'9 ran with these two guys.

00:00:36.440 Billy Seiko introduced 6'9 to your boy, Kifano Jordan, a.k.a. Shadi.

00:00:40.720 No one else has these documents, by the way. I've been looking everywhere.

00:00:43.840 1812. So he was in this bad boy.

00:00:46.040 We're going to go over his past, the gang ties, so that this all makes sense.

00:00:50.140 All right, guys. Welcome to the doubleheader today, man.

00:00:57.040 As you guys know, we just did an episode earlier on the Buffalo shooter.

00:01:00.720 I got Christina with me. You got anything you want to say to people?

00:01:03.300 Yeah. If you're in Memphis or New York, contact the IG.

00:01:08.160 Got it, 1811.

00:01:09.320 Bam. Yeah.

00:01:10.060 Because we're still working on the Young Dolph case, guys.

00:01:11.780 And we're also working on the 22Gs and Coach the Ghost case.

00:01:15.660 For you guys that are watching this right now, probably on premiere.

00:01:18.060 Yo, it is not live, guys. Don't worry. It is not live.

00:01:21.780 This is a prerecorded joint. We're going to try something new here.

00:01:24.360 I got a documentary that we're going to be reacting to.

00:01:26.560 And we're going to go ahead and give you guys the real story behind the classic movie, Paid in Full.

00:01:31.800 Okay?

00:01:32.380 So, first and foremost, you guys are probably wondering,

00:01:34.280 Well, Myra, what the hell is Paid in Full?

00:01:35.860 I got y'all right now.

00:01:37.120 It is this movie right here. Classic.

00:01:39.200 One of my favorites, actually.

00:01:40.760 Movie came out in 2002.

00:01:42.060 Obviously, you got Mekhi Pfeiffer, Cam'ron.

00:01:43.680 Cam'ron. And this is it right here on IMDb.

00:01:47.840 You know, you got the writer.

00:01:49.860 It had AZ Faizan Jr., who's actually the guy named Ace in the movie, played by this guy.

00:01:56.200 And then you got Cam'ron, Mekhi Pfeiffer, and Wood Harris.

00:01:59.640 There we go. Wood Harris is the actor's name.

00:02:01.680 So, this is a good movie.

00:02:02.880 A young man from Harlem forced to cope with the 1980s drug scene,

00:02:05.260 builds an illegal empire only to have a crisis of conscience.

00:02:08.660 So, you know, the movie was loosely based on the story of Rich Porter and his friend Alpo Martinez,

00:02:15.880 which we're going to cover during the course of this documentary.

00:02:21.360 But I just want to give you guys a quick little background on this movie.

00:02:24.340 One of my favorites right here.

00:02:25.360 Great movie.

00:02:25.960 released in 2002.

00:02:28.740 Okay.

00:02:29.420 So, what I have here, guys, is I have a documentary from the FBI Files.

00:02:37.060 Okay.

00:02:37.720 One of my favorite YouTube channels on the low.

00:02:39.560 I'm not going to lie to y'all.

00:02:40.600 It has a lot of cool episodes on big cases that they've done.

00:02:45.340 As you guys know, I reacted to this with the Operation Shattered Shield,

00:02:48.660 which was the biggest police corruption case in New Orleans history back in the early 90s

00:02:54.020 where police were extorting drug dealers and doing a bunch of crazy stuff,

00:02:56.620 murder for hires, all that kind of stuff.

00:02:58.540 And they ended up getting indicted.

00:03:00.520 And one of the guys, Len Davis, the main police officer behind the scene,

00:03:04.120 who you guys make jokes on and say it looks like Chris's dad,

00:03:06.600 which it does actually, ended up getting life in prison, man.

00:03:11.620 He got the death penalty originally.

00:03:13.560 And then, actually, no, he got sentenced to death.

00:03:15.760 So, he's currently still...

00:03:18.660 On death row, federal prison.

00:03:20.400 But, anyway, today's episode, like we said before, guys,

00:03:22.780 we're going to talk about Paid in Full, the real story behind it.

00:03:24.720 So, without further ado, man, let's go ahead and pull this documentary up.

00:03:29.920 Okay.

00:03:31.940 And we're going to go ahead and react to this bad boy.

00:03:34.080 Okay.

00:03:34.260 And, again, shout out to the FBI Files.

00:03:36.720 Okay.

00:03:36.960 And I'll put the link for the original in the description for y'all.

00:03:40.940 But let's go ahead and I'll be reacting and watching this thing alongside with you guys

00:03:44.200 because they actually pulled the investigators.

00:03:46.120 This is an older documentary from the late 90s, early...

00:03:48.660 2000s.

00:03:50.240 And they actually pulled investigators from the actual case and asked them.

00:03:53.920 And I like this documentary because it's a lot better than these newer ones, man.

00:03:56.640 These newer ones, you know, watered down things, you know,

00:03:58.860 wanting to be politically correct and stuff.

00:04:00.180 So, sometimes you got to watch the older school stuff.

00:04:02.200 So, let's get into it.

00:04:09.200 In New York in the 1980s, the emergence of crack cocaine brought a new wave of violence.

00:04:16.020 Drug dealers robbed and killed as they scrambled for power.

00:04:19.180 Ordinary citizens were victimized.

00:04:23.840 Yeah, I don't...

00:04:24.440 This is an understatement, guys, as to how bad the crack scene was in the 80s, man,

00:04:30.540 in the United States in general.

00:04:31.740 You know, it was taking over all the major cities.

00:04:34.260 And New York City was no exception.

00:04:35.480 Even children are not immune.

00:04:38.480 Children are getting kidnapped.

00:04:39.280 The FBI joined forces with the New York City police to take back the streets.

00:04:45.440 Their best weapon against deadly drug gangs was the C-11 squad.

00:04:50.400 Okay, so you guys are probably wondering, C-11 squad, what the hell?

00:04:54.420 So, the FBI guy is a little bit weird.

00:04:56.900 When they have something called squads, okay?

00:04:59.360 And I know this from working with them closely on a bunch of different cases.

00:05:02.660 They call their groups squads.

00:05:05.020 When I worked for HSI as an agent, we used to call our groups just, you know, groups.

00:05:09.000 You know, hey, we got the human smuggling group, the drug trafficking group,

00:05:11.320 the child exploitation group, the human trafficking group, whatever it may be.

00:05:16.860 So, there's different groups, right?

00:05:18.820 The FBI calls their groups squads.

00:05:21.900 And they typically use, you know, numbers for it, which is a little weird.

00:05:26.900 But, I mean, you know, it is what it is.

00:05:29.060 So, each squad has somewhere between five to ten agents and then a supervisory special agent, okay?

00:05:34.320 A.K.A. a GS-14, okay?

00:05:35.920 In the U.S. government, you got GS-1, you know, to whatever.

00:05:40.020 For special agents, journeymen, which is basically like the top where you can,

00:05:44.900 which is basically the top end where you're not a supervisor, is GS-13.

00:05:48.820 Okay?

00:05:49.300 Whether you work for DEA, FBI, HSI, whatever it may be, 13 is the top end, right?

00:05:54.740 And then a 14 is when you hit supervisor level.

00:05:58.580 So, with the FBI, they call their supervisors supervisory special agents or SSAs, okay?

00:06:03.500 And that SSA runs a squad, okay?

00:06:07.960 So, in this case, it's going to be the C-11 squad, which is, if I'm not mistaken, this squad still exists to this day.

00:06:13.560 It's a violent crimes group is basically what it is, the C-11 squad, okay?

00:06:18.800 I think it still exists to this day in the New York field office.

00:06:23.360 But that's how the FBI splits it up.

00:06:25.160 So, you know, different agencies have different things.

00:06:27.460 The DEA, they call their groups like, you know, enforcement group number one, enforcement group two.

00:06:31.540 Then they got an OCDF group, and then they got a task force group.

00:06:33.620 So, every agency is different, but typically, that's how the FBI splits their people up, squads.

00:06:47.080 Oh, and then just the squads are split based on the type of crime they investigate.

00:06:50.360 Sorry about that.

00:06:51.080 So, just like HSI has groups, right?

00:06:53.200 Human Smelling Group, Drug Trafficking Group, whatever it may be, Child Exploitation Group, because HSI investigates a bunch of different crimes.

00:06:59.760 Same thing with the FBI.

00:07:00.920 The FBI will have a counterterrorism group, a domestic terrorism group, a JTTF, Joint Terrorism Task Force.

00:07:06.760 You know, sometimes they'll have multiple JTTFs or multiple counterterrorism groups within one JTTF, you know?

00:07:13.080 Then they'll have a bank robbery squad.

00:07:14.460 They'll have a public corruption squad.

00:07:16.080 They'll have an espionage squad.

00:07:17.440 They'll have, you know, organized crime or a violent crime or a safe streets task force type squad, you know, which C-11 would fall under.

00:07:24.740 So, that's how different agencies split it up.

00:07:26.700 And then DEA Enforcement Group 1, Enforcement Group 2, OCDF Strike Force, et cetera.

00:07:31.320 So, same thing.

00:07:31.920 So, I'll fast forward this a little bit.

00:07:37.480 But when a 12-year-old child was kidnapped, the gangs had crossed the line.

00:07:47.860 Law enforcement raced to find the missing boy before it was too late.

00:07:52.040 I'm Jim Kallstrom, former head of the FBI's New York office.

00:07:57.740 Agents would have to infiltrate the secretive world of a vicious gang to stop the murderous exploits of a drug lord.

00:08:04.720 In the 1980s, crack cocaine invaded the Harlem section of New York, as it did many urban areas in America.

00:08:20.480 For those of you that are wondering, for our international viewers, Harlem, guys, is a neighborhood in Manhattan, okay?

00:08:26.820 Manhattan is a borough of New York City.

00:08:28.340 You've got five boroughs.

00:08:29.300 You've got Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Staten Island, and Queens, right?

00:08:38.840 Manhattan is one borough, okay?

00:08:41.440 That's where the Empire State Building is, all the nice buildings in Manhattan.

00:08:44.780 And then Harlem is north, okay?

00:08:47.380 Basically uptown.

00:08:49.080 It's a component of it's a neighborhood within Manhattan, which now is gentrified, guys.

00:08:54.420 Harlem now is no longer the hood.

00:08:56.220 Back in the 80s, it was terrible, but now you go to Harlem, it's pretty much gentrified, man.

00:09:00.920 It's been cleaned up, as you guys know, because real estate prices have been going up, even with the crazy pandemic going on.

00:09:07.040 So Harlem now is gentrified.

00:09:08.780 So is Brooklyn.

00:09:09.340 A lot of places that used to be terrible to be in the 80s and 90s have been cleaned up and, you know, gentrified.

00:09:16.860 Over time, the cheap and highly addictive drug crippled communities unlike any other drug head before.

00:09:22.640 With the crack came ruthlessly violent gangs that ruled the streets.

00:09:30.360 No one was truly safe.

00:09:35.140 On December 5th, 1989, 12-year-old Donnell Porter was walking to elementary school alone.

00:09:44.060 Donnell Porter, remembering that name, guys.

00:09:46.400 He never made it to class.

00:09:47.660 A 12-year-old kid kidnapped.

00:09:52.540 Early 1989.

00:10:01.160 When he didn't arrive home after school, his family worried.

00:10:06.120 They hadn't been able to find him in the neighborhood.

00:10:08.220 At 9 p.m., Donnell's sister received a phone call.

00:10:16.960 A man on the other end said Donnell had been kidnapped.

00:10:19.880 Now, kidnapping, guys, you know, happens in the drug game.

00:10:26.120 I'll tell you guys this.

00:10:27.220 When I was working in South Texas and Laredo, you know, at all levels, whether you're selling keels of cocaine, crack cocaine, marijuana, whatever it may be, kidnapping is just a part of the game when it comes to drug trafficking, unfortunately.

00:10:39.900 Whether it's rivals doing it, people trying to make money off of you because they know that you're a successful drug trafficker making a lot of money and they know that you can't necessarily go to the police.

00:10:50.460 This does occur in drug trafficking.

00:10:54.320 You know, I've dealt with kidnapping cases before.

00:10:56.100 When I was on the Mexican border, typically it was because someone that was smuggling drugs or someone that was supposed to smuggle drugs lost the load or, you know, turned informant or whatever it may be.

00:11:07.700 So it would be common for contracts to be placed on those people's heads.

00:11:11.280 Some sicarii or whatever would come into the United States, try to find that guy, bring him back to Mexico so they can, you know, torture him or whatever it may be.

00:11:17.120 So, whether, you know, as we would call it, the Mike side, right, dealing with, you know, Mexican organized crime cartels or here, even here in the States with gangs, regardless of the drug being trafficked, this is just a common occurrence in the game.

00:11:33.500 He wanted $500,000 or the boy would be killed.

00:11:39.440 Half a million dollars, guys, in 1989.

00:11:42.640 The family didn't have that kind of money.

00:11:46.040 It didn't matter to the caller.

00:11:49.120 He warned them not to contact police, then instructed them to go to a restaurant at 125th and Broadway.

00:11:57.100 Behind a trash can in the restroom, they'd find something that would prove he was serious.

00:12:03.860 And just so you guys know, look, check this out.

00:12:06.040 So, $500,000 in 1989 is the equivalent to the purchasing power of about $1,194,802 today, an increase of $694,802 and 42 cents over 33 years.

00:12:21.180 Okay?

00:12:21.680 So, that is wild.

00:12:24.360 They pretty much want almost $1.2 million, guys, in today's standards back in 1989, which is wild.

00:12:32.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:12:32.680 And you guys are going to see why they have such a ridiculous ransom price in a second here.

00:12:46.920 A family friend went to the restaurant so the porters could stay by the phone.

00:12:51.740 It was a McDonald's in Harlem, by the way, guys, this is a restaurant.

00:12:59.940 He didn't know if it was a setup.

00:13:02.680 Following the kidnapper's orders, he checked behind the trash container and found a coffee can.

00:13:25.140 Inside were two rings, an audio cassette, and a child's severed finger.

00:13:30.060 Terrible.

00:13:32.060 Terrible.

00:13:32.920 Absolutely terrible.

00:13:39.220 Now, I watched the interview with one of Porter's former friends, Ace, or AZ Faison, who was one of the people played in the movie Pain in Full.

00:13:50.520 And he said on that cassette, you can hear the other brother, Donnell, pleading for his life on the cassette is what was on there.

00:13:57.900 And then two rings were rings that his brother gave to him, which we guys are going to see here in a second.

00:14:03.100 But, yeah, basically, also, he said that the sister ran right to the police when this happened.

00:14:11.220 Donnell was hurt and could be bleeding to death.

00:14:14.960 Despite being warned not to, the family called the New York City police.

00:14:18.440 The family told investigators what they knew.

00:14:28.860 Detectives inspected the evidence.

00:14:34.660 The sister said that the rings belonged to Donnell.

00:14:38.220 They'd been given to the boy by his older brother.

00:14:40.460 A recorded plea for help was definitely Donnell's voice.

00:14:49.200 The family told detectives about a second call in which the kidnapper had lowered his ransom to $350,000.

00:14:57.860 I'll go ahead and figure that out for y'all as well, what $350,000 was back then.

00:15:01.760 So they gave him a little bit of a discount.

00:15:04.680 It was still far beyond their means.

00:15:06.720 They said they didn't know why they were targeted for such a high ransom.

00:15:15.540 But detectives knew what the family wouldn't say.

00:15:19.300 $350,000 in 1989 is equivalent to the purchasing power of about $836,361.69 today.

00:15:27.020 So, yeah, they gave him, you know, we'll just knock off a couple hundred thousand, you know, and give you guys a discount.

00:15:32.500 Ridiculous.

00:15:32.940 So, the police know why he got kidnapped, but their family doesn't really want to say.

00:15:38.500 But let's see.

00:15:42.460 The victim's older brother, Richard Porter, was a major crack cocaine dealer in the area.

00:15:48.700 Okay, who is Rich Porter?

00:15:50.520 Rich Porter, guys.

00:15:51.560 And that's not really what he looks like.

00:15:52.800 This is Rich Porter right here.

00:15:55.760 Legendary drug trafficker from New York City.

00:15:58.380 Richard Porter, better known as Rich Porter, was an American drug dealer who rose to prominence in the Harlem neighborhood of New York City during the crack era in the mid-1980s.

00:16:06.200 Porter's described by the police as a mid-level crack dealer who sold about $50,000 worth of crack a week.

00:16:13.400 Holy!

00:16:14.700 $50,000 a week, man.

00:16:17.040 Okay.

00:16:17.280 And the 2002 paid in full was based on Rich and his partners, AZ Faison and Alpar Martinez.

00:16:23.900 And Mekhi Pfeiffer played Rich Porter.

00:16:29.700 So, he was the oldest of three children, born to Velma Porter.

00:16:32.260 Porter began selling drugs at the age of 12, rising through the ranks of the drug trade in Harlem.

00:16:35.800 He became known for his flamboyant and high-profile lifestyle.

00:16:38.040 He was rumored to have never worn the same outfit twice and that he owned over a dozen luxury vehicles that he kept in a garage in Manhattan during the height of his career as a drug dealer.

00:16:45.740 And then we're going to talk about his murder here later on and Alpar Martinez and all that.

00:16:51.900 But that is Rich Porter, guys, basically.

00:16:55.740 And here's some photographs as well that I'll show y'all of what he really looked like.

00:17:01.580 Let's see here.

00:17:03.160 Bam.

00:17:03.420 So, here he is, right?

00:17:05.680 There's a legendary one with him in front of the car.

00:17:08.320 Hasn't hit the gym but got that beeper.

00:17:11.400 Right?

00:17:11.920 Back in the 80s, that's how you, you know, you kept the communication.

00:17:14.700 That's how the D-Boys did it.

00:17:16.660 Okay.

00:17:17.500 Here he is.

00:17:18.820 Right?

00:17:20.300 Some older photos.

00:17:22.640 Here he is whipping it.

00:17:25.760 Right?

00:17:28.980 Let's see here.

00:17:30.400 This is Alpo Martinez.

00:17:31.540 We're going to talk about him later on.

00:17:33.000 That was his boy who betrayed him.

00:17:34.920 Uh, let's see.

00:17:37.240 Let's see here if we got, yeah, there's some more photos of him.

00:17:41.000 But this is him, man.

00:17:43.140 Uh, legendary drug trafficker from the 80s, man.

00:17:45.700 Uh, from Harlem.

00:17:47.080 Here he is with, uh, Alpo.

00:17:51.160 Right?

00:17:51.740 So, yeah.

00:17:52.920 Selling $50,000 worth of, of drugs.

00:17:56.260 And what's that the equivalent to?

00:17:57.720 Let's see here.

00:17:58.260 $50,000 in 1989 is the equivalent to, uh, okay.

00:18:03.920 $50,000 in 1989, guys, is equivalent in purchasing power of about $119,480.24 today.

00:18:12.800 So, he was making about $1.20 by today's standards, selling crack per week.

00:18:17.880 So, $50,000, that's equals, uh, $200,000 a month in 1989.

00:18:23.820 So, that's the equivalent to, right, uh, yeah, 50 times, 50,000 times four, $200,000, right?

00:18:32.060 So, that equals, he was making $200,000 in 1989, equivalent to $477,920.97 today.

00:18:43.880 So, my man was making almost half a million dollars, guys, by today's standards, selling crack cocaine in 1989.

00:18:51.180 Holy, man.

00:18:52.000 Now, you guys can see why they had such a high ransom note on him, why they wanted so much money.

00:18:58.140 Police believe the kidnapping was related to his drug empire.

00:19:05.020 NYPD contacted the New York FBI's reactive squad for assistance.

00:19:09.120 Special Agent David Higgins, a narcotics expert, was asked to provide more intelligence on Richard Porter.

00:19:21.120 Anything.

00:19:22.300 Okay, so you guys are probably wondering, why the hell is the FBI getting involved in a kidnapping case that deals with drugs?

00:19:27.480 You know what I mean?

00:19:27.900 What the hell is the FBI's involvement here?

00:19:30.000 So, two, two, uh, nexuses here, guys.

00:19:32.520 Number one, drug trafficking is covered under Title 21 of the United States Code.

00:19:36.060 Okay, so, boom, feds automatically have it.

00:19:38.640 The DEA is the lead agency on drugs.

00:19:40.100 However, there are other agencies that are Title 21 designated, okay, that can investigate drug crimes.

00:19:44.480 The FBI is one of them.

00:19:45.900 Homeland Security Investigations, HSI, my former agency, is one of them.

00:19:50.140 And there's a couple other agencies that have Title 21 authorities as well, Border Patrol, Customs, etc.

00:19:54.380 Because, you know, they obviously have to have Title 21 to be able to seize the drugs.

00:19:57.460 Um, but as far as, like, investigating it, those are the three primary agencies that investigate drug trafficking.

00:20:02.820 DEA, FBI, Homeland Security Investigations, all right?

00:20:06.620 Um, so that's number one.

00:20:08.120 They got that, they got that nexus with the drugs.

00:20:10.200 And then second, guys, kidnapping is typically a federal crime a lot of the times.

00:20:14.600 Um, because it often affects interstate commerce.

00:20:17.400 What is interstate commerce?

00:20:18.520 Well, basically, it affects anytime you, you know, kidnap someone and you move them across state lines or using a telephone to facilitate the kidnapping or whatever.

00:20:26.600 This all affects interstate commerce, okay?

00:20:28.720 Because you're using a telecommunication device to contact the victims and tell them, hey, give me some goddamn money.

00:20:35.720 You know, and then they go ahead and go into a bank and withdraw money.

00:20:38.440 That affects interstate commerce.

00:20:39.400 So there's so many different ways to trigger interstate commerce.

00:20:42.120 It's very, it's actually extremely easy to trigger, but kidnapping, uh, and then the drugs gives the FBI, uh, venue.

00:20:49.460 Now, the NYPD obviously contacts the FBI for investigative assistance as well, because when you bring the feds in, you get more resources, you get more help.

00:20:56.560 Uh, the feds typically aren't as bogged down with like, you know, I don't want to sound like an asshole, but like with stupid cases.

00:21:02.520 Because if the feds come in, it's a serious felony case typically.

00:21:04.900 So, uh, so this happens often where the state, right, or the city will get a case and then they'll ask the feds for help.

00:21:12.900 And in this case, uh, you know, someone dealing crack, right?

00:21:16.480 Selling, making $50,000 a week.

00:21:18.160 Well, obviously he's dealing in federal quantities of drugs.

00:21:20.780 If you're, if you're selling that kind of, um, if you're selling that volume of drugs, making that kind of money.

00:21:25.960 Richard Porter, then about 25 years of age, uh, was a well-known crack dealer, uh, whose activities took place in central Harlem.

00:21:35.980 Uh, he was one of those individuals who got in early on the crack trade in New York and he had created, uh, a significant drug empire in central Harlem.

00:21:45.300 Um, and then also real quick, just to give you guys a little bit of a history lesson with, uh, kidnapping, um, the federal kidnapping act, uh, was in 1932, basically found historic Lindbergh kidnapping.

00:21:57.540 The United States Congress passed the federal kidnapping statute known as the federal kidnapping act, 18 USC 1201, which was intended to let federal authorities step in and pursue kidnappers.

00:22:05.320 Once they had crossed state lines with their victim, that became law in 1932.

00:22:09.300 So basically once a kidnapping happens, guys, they can get the FBI involved almost immediately.

00:22:15.040 Okay.

00:22:15.480 And I've done kidnapping cases myself.

00:22:17.660 Uh, I did one while I was, uh, an HSI agent, uh, that had to do with the Mexican border.

00:22:22.680 So, um, you know, if typically if it's like international, uh, you know, HSI sometimes takes them, sometimes FBI takes them.

00:22:29.980 So, uh, but typically if it's like in the United States, nine out of 10 times, it's going to be the FBI that does the kidnapping cases.

00:22:35.200 Richard Porter had made millions of dollars selling crack on New York streets.

00:22:40.900 They got him with the Rough Rider chain.

00:22:42.600 Okay.

00:22:47.280 Detectives knew where his turf was.

00:22:50.240 What's going on, man?

00:22:52.540 It didn't take long to find Porter.

00:22:56.780 Detectives recognized the person he was with.

00:22:58.920 It's his drug running partner, Alpo Martin.

00:23:03.100 This visit wasn't about drugs.

00:23:04.760 Who's Alpo Martinez.

00:23:05.880 Real quick, little lowdown on that for, for you guys.

00:23:08.680 This is him right here.

00:23:11.640 Who I showed you guys pictures of him before.

00:23:13.980 Alpo Martinez, AKA Albert Jiddis Martinez, better known as Alpo Martinez.

00:23:17.920 Abraham G. Rodriguez, or more simply as Alpo or Poe, was an American drug dealer from New York City.

00:23:22.300 He rose to promise in mid-1980s.

00:23:23.820 This was, um, Porter's right-hand man, uh, who ended up killing him later on.

00:23:30.400 And we'll talk about that.

00:23:34.760 It was about finding Donnell.

00:23:38.140 Come on now, okay.

00:23:43.640 Porter agreed to come to the station for an interview, though he said he didn't know how he could help.

00:23:47.960 Police knew Porter was very close to Donnell, but he claimed to know nothing about who was behind his brother's kidnap.

00:24:06.480 On the streets, these matters are usually solved without the cops.

00:24:13.360 Yep.

00:24:13.700 So he didn't want to cooperate for obvious reasons, guys.

00:24:15.940 They don't want the police involved in this.

00:24:17.740 This is street beef.

00:24:19.520 This is stuff that you handle in the streets, civically.

00:24:21.480 Richard Porter, uh, because of his situation as a drug trafficker, uh, found himself in a ticklish situation legally.

00:24:40.800 Uh, it would have been difficult for him to cooperate directly with law enforcement.

00:24:46.140 I believe he attempted to handle this situation, uh, on his own to some extent.

00:24:52.700 Police had nothing to hold him on.

00:24:58.360 Authorities needed to find someone else to help them.

00:25:00.940 They canvassed the area, trying to gather information on the kidnapping.

00:25:13.720 In such a close-knit neighborhood, someone had to have heard something about Donnell.

00:25:19.780 But residents were too afraid to talk.

00:25:22.780 This is common, guys, in, you know, lower socioeconomic neighborhoods where the police show up, they want to get answers,

00:25:29.340 but the problem is that everyone knows each other, and they're not going to cooperate.

00:25:33.180 Because if someone cooperates, people are going to find out, oh, this person's snitching, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:37.840 I remember I had a case like this, in a drug case in an area like this, where everyone knew each other,

00:25:42.100 everyone was involved in criminal activity, lower socioeconomic status.

00:25:45.020 And, yeah, I mean, no one wanted to cooperate, man.

00:25:47.880 And if you do get a source, you got to do everything in your power to protect that source.

00:25:51.720 I remember I had one, uh, one informant where we would have to drive him out of town to talk to him, you know,

00:25:56.160 or we would come up with elaborate excuses for why he would leave town to come and, you know,

00:26:01.280 do a debrief with us where he was able to kind of always have some kind of legit excuse.

00:26:05.260 So, um, this is what happens a lot of times, guys.

00:26:07.940 To get information is very difficult, and a lot of people don't want to come forward and provide info

00:26:11.460 because, especially in tight-knit communities like this, because at some point,

00:26:14.820 they'll be able to figure out who's talking.

00:26:17.240 And that puts you and your family at risk.

00:26:19.340 Harlem's violent gangs had a stranglehold on the community.

00:26:32.080 Detectives were left with nothing.

00:26:36.000 With each passing day, police in NYPD's 32nd precinct knew Donnell's chance of survival decreased.

00:26:43.180 Investigators maintained contact with the boy's family, who were desperate for more word from the kidnappers.

00:26:53.180 A week after the abduction, the family received a note.

00:26:58.360 In it, the kidnappers hinted Donnell was still alive.

00:27:01.720 We still want the money.

00:27:02.640 The child is in pain, needs medical assistance.

00:27:06.340 They demanded their money.

00:27:07.700 But no more ransom calls came.

00:27:12.600 With no clues to the boy's whereabouts and no one talking, police had reached a dead end.

00:27:19.380 They somehow needed to pressure Richard Porter into cooperating.

00:27:22.520 We've got to get him back in here.

00:27:25.260 Or hope he would pay the ransom to get Donnell back.

00:27:31.280 Then, on January 4th, 1990, a month after Donnell's abduction,

00:27:35.380 the body of his brother, drug kingpin Richard Porter, was found in a Bronx park.

00:27:43.340 He had been shot twice, in the head and chest.

00:27:47.220 There would be no one to pay the ransom now.

00:27:51.440 It was why.

00:27:52.280 Now, probably wondering, how did he die?

00:27:54.340 What the hell happened?

00:27:55.240 Well, guys, his best friend, Alpo Martinez, is the one that did him.

00:27:59.520 And he's going to detail it here in this video right here that I got for y'all.

00:28:02.420 So, here, this is from 2019.

00:28:06.740 Here's Alpo Martinez right here.

00:28:08.400 And this guy's going to ask him.

00:28:10.580 So, he's going to walk him through how this happened.

00:28:20.320 Right here where I was meeting Rich that night.

00:28:23.680 And I pulled up right here.

00:28:25.800 He got into the van.

00:28:26.840 He got into the van right here.

00:28:28.940 And once he got into the van, I locked the doors.

00:28:33.220 And as I was pulling off, I was asking him.

00:28:37.760 Because it didn't take long after I pulled off.

00:28:39.560 I was asking him, like, yo, Rich, where did you get that coke from, man?

00:28:44.140 Okay, so, what happened was, when this happened, when Rich Porter's brother got kidnapped, Rich needed to come up with the money quickly.

00:28:54.240 So, he got fronted 30 kilograms of cocaine from a Kinect.

00:28:58.840 Okay?

00:28:59.840 That Kinect gave Rich the drugs.

00:29:02.420 And Rich was like, yo, I need to sell this and make the money.

00:29:05.060 So, obviously, you know, they knew that the feds was on him.

00:29:07.980 They knew that everything was hot.

00:29:09.600 You know, hell, they had pulled him in and asked him questions about his brother being kidnapped.

00:29:13.640 So, he knew he couldn't sell the drugs himself.

00:29:15.340 So, he gave the drugs to who?

00:29:16.760 Alpo Martinez to sell.

00:29:17.900 And at the time, Alpo was not in New York City.

00:29:21.460 If I'm not mistaken, he went to Washington, D.C. to get rid of the drugs.

00:29:24.480 Okay?

00:29:25.220 Because he had a little bit of an organization down there.

00:29:28.260 So, he gives Alpo the drugs.

00:29:30.920 But he doesn't necessarily tell him where he gets it from.

00:29:33.560 Okay?

00:29:33.940 So, Alpo figures out where he got the drugs from.

00:29:37.380 And he asks him, yo, where'd you get the dope from?

00:29:39.860 And then, Porter gives him this response.

00:29:42.400 That shit was good because I wanted to make him comfortable.

00:29:44.640 That shit was good as a motherfucker.

00:29:45.960 He's like, I got it from my Kinect.

00:29:48.400 I said, oh, yeah.

00:29:50.120 So, from there, I knew he was lying.

00:29:52.920 I turned to my little man.

00:29:54.740 I gave him the nod.

00:29:55.760 He got it from another Kinect that Porter didn't necessarily want to share with Alpo.

00:30:01.240 According to, you know, different stories.

00:30:03.220 Who knows, man?

00:30:03.820 He might be just saying this to rationalize him killing his best friend.

00:30:06.880 Who knows?

00:30:07.320 No one really, really knows at this point, 100%, why he did it.

00:30:11.380 But this is what he's saying.

00:30:14.300 Once I gave him the nod, my little man spent.

00:30:15.980 Because he was short, so he could stand up in the van.

00:30:18.480 Next thing you heard was the two gunshots.

00:30:20.060 Bang, bang.

00:30:21.840 Richard slumped over.

00:30:24.140 And it happened.

00:30:26.800 It happened right here.

00:30:28.540 It happened right here.

00:30:30.820 At this light.

00:30:31.640 At this light, it happened.

00:30:35.420 I'm saying, in my mind, I'm saying to my little man, you know, he's dead.

00:30:39.380 He's done it.

00:30:40.000 He just got hit with a .357.

00:30:42.720 Twice.

00:30:43.080 The only sign I heard was, you know, him releasing his breath.

00:30:48.660 His last breath.

00:30:49.840 So, I'm assuming that he's dead.

00:30:51.980 This is crazy.

00:30:53.020 That, you know, just, you could tell just from, like, how he, like, remembers it and stuff.

00:30:58.740 Like, this guy's fucking no remorse, man.

00:31:01.080 Wild.

00:31:01.380 He's, like, his best friend.

00:31:02.980 Yeah.

00:31:03.620 Crazy, right?

00:31:04.380 He did it for Aviva.

00:31:05.280 He did it to, like, save his brother.

00:31:07.200 Like, I just don't get it.

00:31:09.160 Yeah.

00:31:09.720 It's crazy, man.

00:31:10.360 That was never his real friend, though.

00:31:11.940 Yeah.

00:31:12.160 I mean, this is the thing about the drug game, guys, is that the drug game is dirty like this, bro.

00:31:15.880 Like, guys, when I was doing these types of cases, these guys that, bro, it takes a certain type of person to be involved in this game.

00:31:24.320 Like, there is no honor amongst thieves, my friends.

00:31:26.700 There's no loyalty.

00:31:27.640 There's no loyalty at all.

00:31:28.920 No.

00:31:30.500 And I need to find a place to put his, you know, to put his, leave his body without anyone seeing me and seeing the van or just, so, the only thing, the only place I can think of and just driving it.

00:31:44.500 And it's just so funny.

00:31:46.680 I'm saying City Island, but I'm not even sure if I wanted City Island, but I just knew I wanted to get off the streets and get onto a highway.

00:31:54.540 How did you feel?

00:31:55.660 Was you mad?

00:31:56.480 Was you angry?

00:31:57.420 Like, what was going on in your head?

00:31:59.600 I was very, I was very mad.

00:32:01.180 I just killed a nigga that I loved.

00:32:06.740 I don't know about that.

00:32:07.700 I don't think it was Matt too mad.

00:32:09.480 Nigga that I was getting money with.

00:32:11.720 A nigga that I called my brother.

00:32:15.880 We kept, we kept driving.

00:32:19.340 A little bit different than the movie Paid in Full where, you know, Cameron shoots Makai.

00:32:23.400 Pfeiffer just straight up shoots him.

00:32:24.600 This one is a little bit different where Alpo had his friend do the shooting.

00:32:28.120 And then you guys are going to see how it goes here.

00:32:29.460 I'm driving this way and until I can find a remote spot to leave the body.

00:32:40.520 Go around this turn right here.

00:32:42.140 Yeah, loop it real quick.

00:32:45.060 It was somewhere over here.

00:32:48.820 Pulled over like right here.

00:32:50.300 Just through the, through the van up on, as close as I can to the rail.

00:32:56.680 Once, once I pulled over, my little man, he's probably about, Gary's probably like five, three, one something.

00:33:05.060 So I'm trying to stay behind this.

00:33:07.520 I'm trying to stay behind the steering wheel.

00:33:09.380 I'm trying to stay in the drive.

00:33:11.800 So this is what he's talking about, guys, when he says Orkard Beach, by the way, or Orkard Beach, whatever it's called.

00:33:18.700 This is it.

00:33:19.300 This is in the Bronx.

00:33:20.140 Okay.

00:33:20.980 And you guys can see here.

00:33:23.760 Right.

00:33:24.140 Which is pretty far from, from Harlem.

00:33:26.440 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:27.120 Like Harlem is all the way over here.

00:33:30.240 Guys, like this is Manhattan.

00:33:32.080 Boom.

00:33:32.320 Here's Harlem.

00:33:32.760 Right.

00:33:33.660 Look at this.

00:33:35.060 Right.

00:33:37.280 So let's see if we can do direct.

00:33:39.120 Let me see.

00:33:40.780 Directions.

00:33:42.160 Right.

00:33:42.920 So.

00:33:46.300 And then we'll go ahead and put Orkard Beach.

00:33:52.580 Orchard Beach.

00:33:55.380 So it's 12 miles.

00:33:57.700 However, we all know in New York City.

00:34:00.180 An hour or two.

00:34:01.060 12 miles is really like fucking three hours.

00:34:06.020 Okay.

00:34:06.780 So.

00:34:07.980 So he went all the way out there from Harlem.

00:34:10.420 Okay.

00:34:12.820 To the Bronx.

00:34:15.460 And this is probably a very similar route that they took to get out there.

00:34:18.800 So yeah.

00:34:21.520 Killed his friend in cold blood, man.

00:34:23.020 And then dumped his body at a beach.

00:34:25.060 Just in case we got to pull over, pull off and have him go dump the body.

00:34:30.580 But when he went to go try to dump, you know, get Rich out of the car, he couldn't, he couldn't pick him up.

00:34:36.720 He couldn't pick him up.

00:34:37.440 Rich was bigger than him.

00:34:38.500 So he couldn't, he couldn't move him to, to, to put him in the woods and all that.

00:34:44.280 So now I got to get, I had to get out the van to go help him.

00:34:48.140 And when I went to go help him, Richard made a sound.

00:34:52.660 Oh, shit.

00:34:57.000 So that shit startled me.

00:34:58.940 Oh, shit.

00:34:59.520 He's still alive.

00:35:00.900 So I grabbed the gun.

00:35:01.980 I grabbed the gun from my little man and put one in his head.

00:35:07.100 And then I had to pick him up.

00:35:08.780 I had to pick him up and, and dump him in the woods and leave his body.

00:35:16.080 I was able to, you know, get him where he needed to be.

00:35:19.380 And then we jumped back in the, we jumped back in the van and I made sure I didn't skid off or anything like that to leave any kind of tracks.

00:35:27.500 And we, uh, and we left.

00:35:31.180 So premeditated guys, you know, I, I'm going to call Cap here.

00:35:34.260 I don't think he cared that much.

00:35:36.000 You know, the fact they shot him in the head again, point blank right there when he was having his last breath.

00:35:41.160 He, when he, he even went to the wake after and we left and the rest was the newspapers, the rest was his.

00:35:51.220 He actually got killed last year, October 31st, 2021, uh, road rage incident guys, uh, is what happened.

00:35:57.580 And then, you know, what happened here, you guys can see, uh, Harlem drug Lord Apple Martinez got 35 years in 1991 after striking a deal on 14 counts of murder, including the killing of his business partner, rich Porter, who Apple believe was cheating on him, was cheating him, uh, on money.

00:36:13.360 Uh, so basically that's why he killed him.

00:36:16.300 But, you know, he ended up dying guys, um, after a road raid incident, they didn't even kill him for the snitching.

00:36:21.860 And like, he just got killed in his truck, uh, over a road rage incident, you know, which, hey man, you live by the sword, die by the sword, man.

00:36:32.260 So anyway, let's keep going with the documentary.

00:36:35.080 I'd be assumed that Richard's death was connected to, uh, the kidnapping and probably the result of a ransom payment gone bad.

00:36:43.340 However, it was noted early on that, uh, when his body was discovered, uh, his wallet contained over $2,000 in U.S. currency.

00:36:50.440 Uh, his jewelry was there.

00:36:52.920 Uh, apparently his automobile was nearby.

00:36:55.340 Uh, so there was some question about what the actual motivations, uh, were behind his murder.

00:37:01.480 Yep.

00:37:01.940 Because Alpo, you know, was mad that he wasn't giving him, you know, some, you know, the, the connect.

00:37:08.920 So he killed him and, you know, these guys were getting money, so he's not going to take $2,000 from him.

00:37:13.620 You know, at that point, it's like an insult.

00:37:16.060 So.

00:37:16.500 With Richard Porter's death, investigators lost their closest connection to the abducted 12-year-old.

00:37:25.900 To find another source, they increased pressure on lower-level dealers in Porter's organization.

00:37:31.000 And for you guys that are wondering, $2,000 in 1989 is about $4,779 today.

00:37:37.780 So that would be the equivalent for, of you getting killed with almost $5,000 in your, in your wallet.

00:37:42.500 Which sounds absurd when you think about it.

00:37:45.220 So.

00:37:45.400 Facing drug charges, they were offered leniency in exchange for information.

00:37:56.060 So they start pressing dealers in the area.

00:37:57.800 Some say Porter's partner, Alpo Martinez, could be involved.

00:38:03.340 Others claimed an infamous Harlem gang called the Preacher Crew might be.

00:38:07.640 Hmm, Preacher Crew.

00:38:08.860 But none offered direct leads to the crime.

00:38:15.980 Shit's about to get real.

00:38:17.000 Three weeks later, a boy's body was recovered in the same Bronx park where Richard Porter was found.

00:38:24.260 His family identified the body of Donnell Porter.

00:38:28.900 So.

00:38:30.300 Clearly, the kidnappers found out that Rich got killed.

00:38:33.260 Since Richard got killed, they knew they weren't going to get their money.

00:38:35.620 So what are they going to do?

00:38:36.380 Well, the kid is a witness now and knows who kidnapped him.

00:38:39.220 So they had to kill the kid, unfortunately.

00:38:42.840 And I watched the, you know, shots of Vlad TV.

00:38:45.660 I watched the AZ Faison interview from Vlad TV.

00:38:49.800 And I, AZ, aka Ace, in the movie Paid in Full, speculated, which I think this is a pretty good speculation.

00:38:55.700 That the reason why they dumped Donnell's body in the same place, Orchard Beach, Orchard Beach, whatever it's called.

00:39:03.740 Was that to kind of throw off investigators.

00:39:05.840 So that if they found out who killed Rich, they will go after that person for Donnell as well.

00:39:12.080 To kind of throw investigators off their tracks.

00:39:14.360 Which makes sense.

00:39:15.040 You know what I mean?

00:39:15.400 Like, okay, if they killed Rich and they put him in that beach, well, let's kill him, kill his little brother, and also put him in the beach.

00:39:20.620 So at that point, they knew they weren't going to get their ransom money.

00:39:24.860 And then on top of that, guys, it was actually Rich Porter's uncle that set up the entire situation with the crew that kidnapped Rich Porter's little brother, Donnell.

00:39:33.480 Which we're going to get into that here in a little bit.

00:39:36.760 But let's keep going.

00:39:44.400 Cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head.

00:39:46.980 The death of a child is always a disturbing event.

00:39:53.280 There's a 12-year-old boy.

00:39:54.500 He's on the way to public school.

00:39:56.520 He's kidnapped, tortured.

00:40:01.020 He's heard on the tape cassette crying for help from his family.

00:40:09.060 Donnell's murder stunned the entire Harlem community, even though violence was a daily occurrence there.

00:40:14.260 At the time, Sergeant James Marr worked NYPD's notorious 32nd Precinct, where Donnell lived.

00:40:24.820 In the late 80s and early 90s, 32nd Precinct, which is actually geographically only one square mile, was one of the most violent precincts in New York City.

00:40:34.380 They averaged in the area of the upper 60s to low 70s of homicides a year.

00:40:40.460 And added on to that were shootings.

00:40:43.380 Crazy.

00:40:44.260 Only a square mile and has all this crime.

00:40:46.980 100 shootings that the people didn't die.

00:40:51.680 And let me tell you guys something, too.

00:40:53.160 Cause I lived in New York City in the 90s, okay?

00:40:55.900 Cause that was my childhood, right?

00:40:57.580 I was born in 1990.

00:40:58.900 I left New York City at age 9.

00:41:01.660 But I have vivid memories.

00:41:03.460 Growing up in Brooklyn, New York.

00:41:04.980 My dad was a cab driver of just crazy crime on the news.

00:41:10.240 Every other week, there was a police shooting, or a police officer getting killed.

00:41:14.960 I remember there used to be, like, these big flyers all over the place, like, hey, another cop killed, provide information, you know, get a reward.

00:41:21.940 New York City, guys, in the 80s and the 90s was not a safe place to be, man.

00:41:26.540 It was extremely dangerous.

00:41:28.860 And in the 80s, it was even worse.

00:41:31.220 You know, the 90s was bad, right?

00:41:32.600 At least Giuliani came in and kind of, you know, got tough on crime and everything else like that.

00:41:36.580 But New York City was not sweet, guys.

00:41:39.580 And in the 70s, it was extremely dangerous, right?

00:41:41.660 Thanks to the mafia.

00:41:43.020 And then the 80s came in with crack.

00:41:45.740 That didn't help at all.

00:41:47.100 And then the 90s, it started to get a little bit better, but it was extremely dangerous, man.

00:41:51.720 So it was a different world, guys, New York City back then.

00:41:55.860 In response to the increased violence in the city, a task force called the C-11 squad had been formed at the FBI's New York field office.

00:42:04.720 26 Federal Plaza.

00:42:08.060 Detectives from the 32nd Precinct and FBI agents were assigned to the squad.

00:42:12.340 C-11 was created to address these entrenched criminal conspiracy groups in the city of New York.

00:42:20.540 The locals brought their knowledge of the streets, the knowledge of the subjects involved to the table.

00:42:26.400 The federal agents brought along with them the access to the federal courts, which included the access to the federal sentencing guidelines in the United States Attorney's Office.

00:42:35.580 So why would you want the federal sentencing guidelines, the AUSAs, and the federal courts?

00:42:39.220 Well, guys, they get more time.

00:42:40.220 The federal system, you're going to do 80% of your time, bare minimum, okay?

00:42:44.620 And the feds typically don't lose, and you get more resources.

00:42:47.000 And when you get a federal prosecutor, a lot of the time, they're not as bogged down with cases as ADAs are.

00:42:51.840 Remember, we talked about this before.

00:42:53.340 Assistant United States Attorney versus Assistant District Attorney.

00:42:55.920 Assistant United States Attorney is a federal prosecutor.

00:42:57.720 Assistant District Attorney is a state prosecutor.

00:43:00.020 That state prosecutor has all kinds of cases, from, you know, someone pulling his dick out in the subway,

00:43:05.120 to pissing out in public, to, you know, petty theft, to burglary, all the way up to murder.

00:43:09.800 They carry all kinds of cases, right?

00:43:11.820 Versus the AUSAs, federal prosecutors, they're carrying only the more severe felonies.

00:43:17.060 After the murder of Danelle Porter, they knew they had to take back the streets.

00:43:25.240 C-11 would first go after Alpo Martinez, Richard Porter's partner.

00:43:28.680 The problem is, if their partnership had unraveled, he would have had the most to gain from extorting Richard Porter and killing him.

00:43:37.900 We're still working on some surveillance.

00:43:40.160 A year earlier, a warrant had been sworn out for his arrest on drug charges.

00:43:45.360 But when Martinez couldn't be found, federal prosecutors had to drop the warrant.

00:43:51.620 In police computers, the C-11 squad flagged the names of known associates of Alpo Martinez.

00:43:56.980 If any were arrested, they would be notified.

00:44:07.140 And Alpo wasn't in New York City, guys, as you know.

00:44:09.980 You know, as I told you guys before, he was down south, and you guys are going to see here in a second.

00:44:14.200 Months later, police in Washington, D.C. pulled over a car after observing its driver engage in a drug deal.

00:44:20.260 So Washington, D.C. now, a few months later.

00:44:22.000 The driver was a known courier for Alpo Martinez.

00:44:30.420 What's a courier, guys?

00:44:31.360 A courier is someone who's a runner.

00:44:32.720 Whether they're transporting drugs or money for you, couriers typically do, you know, they're the runners.

00:44:38.880 You know, they do the work for the bigger guys in the chain.

00:44:41.920 Because obviously, the higher up you go in the organization, the less those guys can afford to be caught with actual drugs.

00:44:48.120 So, you know, they have guys underneath them that go ahead and, you know, do little errands for them.

00:44:52.120 Transport drugs, move money around, whatever it may be.

00:44:54.120 Police found a large amount of crack and thousands of dollars in his car.

00:45:06.220 Bam.

00:45:06.760 So you probably just got done making a deal happen.

00:45:08.420 Noting the flag on his record from New York, D.C. authorities would contact the C-11 squad.

00:45:13.840 After the courier was sentenced to 20 years to life on drug charges, C-11 agents had him transport.

00:45:23.680 And remember, guys, crack was, they had the strict guidelines back then, okay, with the crack cocaine.

00:45:28.380 So he got 20 years, you know, obviously, when you're facing these types of drug charges in the 90s, you're like, damn, you know what?

00:45:35.700 I want to cooperate.

00:45:37.640 Ported to New York for an interview.

00:45:39.240 An agent explained that under federal law, his sentence could be reviewed if he cooperated with authorities.

00:45:53.960 He told what he knew about Martinez and Porter's East Coast drug operation.

00:46:00.660 Drugs would be distributed both in New York City by Richard Porter and in Washington, D.C. by Alpo Martinez.

00:46:07.560 While in Washington, D.C., Martinez allied himself with individuals that he found to be strong on the street, if you will, in order to protect his drug operation in Washington, D.C.

00:46:20.240 And it was not unusual for literally seabags worth of U.S. currency to be shipped out of northern Virginia and Washington, D.C.

00:46:30.120 up into the Porter neighborhood at 132nd and 7th Avenue in New York City.

00:46:36.340 It was enough for a renewed...

00:46:40.720 So as you guys can see, they got a pretty sophisticated drug trafficking organization that covers, you know, between two major drug hubs, New York City and Washington, D.C.

00:46:49.900 And obviously, you got Interstate Highway 95, right, which I've talked to you guys before about drug corridors.

00:46:55.440 Let's talk about the Northeast in general and 95 Interstate, right?

00:47:01.860 So you go ahead and you look at the 95 Interstate, right?

00:47:05.920 Guys, the 95 Interstate...

00:47:07.640 And I'm going to go ahead and pull this bad boy up for you guys here just to kind of show you guys what I'm talking about here.

00:47:11.680 The 95 Corridor.

00:47:12.600 Okay, so 95, guys, ends actually right here in Miami, Florida, okay?

00:47:20.940 You see here, it takes you into Coral Gables.

00:47:25.580 Where is it?

00:47:26.900 Oh, God.

00:47:27.940 Sorry, guys.

00:47:29.900 95 is right here.

00:47:32.700 Boom.

00:47:33.600 Right.

00:47:34.140 Brings you into Miami.

00:47:35.280 It ends right around here.

00:47:36.460 It's actually literally a couple...

00:47:38.420 Like, one mile away from where I live is where 95 ends.

00:47:41.520 It ends right here as you're coming into Coral Gables, all right?

00:47:45.100 Boom.

00:47:45.700 All right?

00:47:47.360 And then it turns into US-1.

00:47:49.540 Now, you follow 95 all the way back up north.

00:47:52.580 Where does it take you?

00:47:53.320 Well, guys, it takes you through a bunch of major cities on the way, okay?

00:48:01.940 So you got 95 here.

00:48:07.300 It takes you into Richmond, Washington, D.C., okay?

00:48:10.600 It takes you into Philly, all right?

00:48:15.940 Obviously, it's in New York City, 95.

00:48:18.620 It takes you into Connecticut, right?

00:48:20.760 Across the southern part of Connecticut here.

00:48:23.280 My parents actually live right off 95 here in southern Connecticut, all right?

00:48:26.680 Then it takes you into Providence, then into right around Boston, right?

00:48:34.220 It doesn't take you into the city of Boston, but it pretty much gets you damn near close

00:48:37.480 to it, right?

00:48:38.480 Here's 95 here.

00:48:39.920 Brings you all around.

00:48:40.840 To get into the actual city of Boston, you're going to have to go ahead and take, I think,

00:48:44.320 93.

00:48:45.160 Help me out with that, Christina.

00:48:46.320 Isn't that your...

00:48:47.580 You got to talk in a mic.

00:48:49.780 Yeah, you got to bring it to you.

00:48:50.800 Yeah, right?

00:48:52.380 Because 93 takes you into the city.

00:48:54.560 Go ahead.

00:48:55.280 Yeah, I know it does.

00:48:56.020 And then 95.

00:48:57.140 Yeah.

00:48:57.420 So 95 takes you around it, it looks like.

00:48:59.940 And then where else 95?

00:49:03.480 So 95 keeps going up north, and it takes you into Maine, it looks like.

00:49:10.140 Yeah, because if you're going up 95, going south.

00:49:12.960 Because it's like going towards from like Boston to Rhode Island.

00:49:16.220 And then it goes all the way up, yeah.

00:49:18.140 Yeah, so it takes you into Bangor, Maine.

00:49:21.080 Okay.

00:49:22.040 And then Howland here, Island Falls.

00:49:25.300 Yeah, man.

00:49:25.720 I mean, pretty much we're in Canada right now.

00:49:28.740 And then, bam, it ends like pretty much right here on the Canadian border, it looks like.

00:49:32.660 Yeah.

00:49:33.280 Yeah.

00:49:33.600 It ends on the Canadian border.

00:49:35.600 So look at that, guys.

00:49:36.660 From here, all the way down into all these different major cities, right?

00:49:42.380 Washington, D.C., okay, Richmond, Virginia.

00:49:47.360 Okay, and I remember taking this highway down 95.

00:49:49.440 It was miserable.

00:49:50.380 I drove from Connecticut, right?

00:49:53.360 Drove from Shafford, Connecticut, all the way down to Brunswick, Georgia, which is right here, right around Savannah.

00:50:01.580 That is the worst drive ever.

00:50:02.900 Dude, it took me like a day.

00:50:04.020 It was terrible.

00:50:05.660 Where's Brunswick?

00:50:06.540 Brunswick, Georgia.

00:50:07.280 This is Jacksonville.

00:50:08.140 Brunswick is about an hour away.

00:50:10.300 Driving into Florida in general is like.

00:50:12.380 Yeah, it's not fun.

00:50:14.180 But, yeah, it's in between.

00:50:15.660 It's here somewhere.

00:50:16.920 It's in between Savannah and St.

00:50:20.240 Simon's Island.

00:50:20.700 Okay, it's right here.

00:50:21.480 Hold on.

00:50:22.520 Yeah, here we go.

00:50:23.020 Brunswick.

00:50:23.380 Bam.

00:50:23.680 There you go.

00:50:23.980 Right off 95.

00:50:25.060 This is Brunswick.

00:50:26.120 Okay, guys, this is where the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center is, actually.

00:50:29.260 It's right here.

00:50:30.540 Okay.

00:50:30.800 Do they even have it on the map, Fletzy?

00:50:35.700 Maybe not.

00:50:36.940 Oh, Glencoe.

00:50:40.700 What the?

00:50:41.760 All right.

00:50:42.160 Well, either way.

00:50:43.200 I'm going down memory lane here too much.

00:50:44.640 Sorry, guys.

00:50:45.260 But that's where I was.

00:50:45.920 So 95, man, takes you pretty much through every major city, Jacksonville, right, et cetera.

00:50:52.980 It takes you through every major city or most of the major cities on the East Coast, in the East Coast.

00:50:57.920 So 95, you know, marries New York City and Philly and obviously Washington, D.C., right?

00:51:07.800 Right here.

00:51:09.620 And 95 is a huge highway, interstate highway that gets, you know, drive traffickers to other major cities on the Eastern Seaboard.

00:51:22.060 All right.

00:51:23.260 So I'm not surprised that these guys controlled New York City and D.C. as well through Interstate 95.

00:51:29.180 Rest warrant on Alpo Martinez.

00:51:34.020 Agents canvassed the neighborhood, talking to people who knew Martinez.

00:51:44.940 Most were afraid to talk.

00:51:46.440 Eventually, agents learned the fugitive was going to pick up his wife's car at a dealership in northern New Jersey.

00:51:57.640 Undercover agents staked out the dealership.

00:52:02.720 They didn't know if Martinez would show up, but they knew he liked fast cars.

00:52:16.440 That afternoon, a sports car pulled out.

00:52:22.940 They watched a passenger get out, but it wasn't Martinez.

00:52:32.520 Agents couldn't tell if the fugitive was driving.

00:52:37.640 They had to risk a closer look.

00:52:39.580 If they could arrest Martinez, it might help solve the murders of Richard Porter and his 12-year-old brother, Donnell.

00:52:49.680 An agent visually identified Martinez as the driver.

00:52:55.100 He radioed a go-ahead signal.

00:52:57.960 But before the arrest team could respond, Martinez spun away.

00:53:01.400 He was like, fuck that shit.

00:53:02.580 I'm out, man.

00:53:03.180 You guys ain't catching me, man.

00:53:04.520 He just was like.

00:53:05.180 Agents gave chase, but the fugitive disappeared into heavy traffic.

00:53:19.820 With Alpo Martin as still a fugitive, the abduction and murder of 12-year-old Donnell Porter remained unsolved.

00:53:27.700 The abduction and murder of 12-year-old Donnell Porter showed that Harlem's drug violence was out of control.

00:53:39.080 The FBI's C-11 squad knew the murder was connected to the boy's brother, crack dealer Richard Porter.

00:53:45.900 But Porter himself had been killed.

00:53:50.260 C-11 believed finding Porter's partner, Alpo Martinez, would provide answers.

00:53:54.780 But in 1991, Martinez had eluded an FBI undercover operation.

00:54:03.220 So he was able to get out of it.

00:54:04.680 You probably saw them white boys coming up.

00:54:05.960 He was like, hey, what the hell?

00:54:06.760 Hey, fuck that shit.

00:54:07.580 It just turned into fucking Goku and that bitch.

00:54:13.800 From the incident, the FBI got his license plate number and alerted New York police to be on the lookout for the vehicle.

00:54:19.700 The next day, police spotted it, parked on a Harlem street.

00:54:27.060 They impounded it, hoping it might lead to Martinaires.

00:54:31.380 They believed the fugitive wouldn't retrieve the vehicle themselves.

00:54:35.180 But FBI Special Agent David Higgins waited to see if he'd send someone.

00:54:38.820 A young lady showed up, claimed to be...

00:54:42.900 Just so you guys know, Higgins is the main case agent on this investigation.

00:54:46.940 The true owner.

00:54:48.360 She was the registered owner.

00:54:49.580 And the case agent, as you guys know from watching this podcast, the case agent is the person that controls the investigation for the most part.

00:54:55.680 They're the main supervisor.

00:54:57.360 He had guys from NYPD obviously involved in the investigation as well as co-case agents.

00:55:01.520 But FBI was lead.

00:55:03.700 He was the main case agent.

00:55:06.540 Ultimately, a quick investigation established that she was what we call a straw man or somebody who had stepped forward in order to buy and register the car on behalf of Mr. Martinez.

00:55:20.540 Martinez was...

00:55:21.380 Which is very common, guys, in drug trafficking organizations.

00:55:23.480 You're going to have people that aren't necessarily under the radar of law enforcement, registering cars, purchasing cars, etc., in their name for their counterpart.

00:55:31.800 Because obviously they know that their name is hot.

00:55:33.880 They can't be really put on paperwork like that because they don't want to have a paper trail for the police to find them.

00:55:39.500 Because at this point, obviously, Alpo knows that the police are on him.

00:55:42.680 Nowhere to be found.

00:55:43.580 Which is why he left New York City in the first place and went to D.C.

00:55:46.140 On to New York, acting on a tip that he had traveled to Washington, D.C., agents set up surveillance at the D.C. home of the fugitive's ex-wife.

00:55:57.760 In the early hours of November 7th, 1991, they spotted Martinez getting into his ex-wife's vehicle.

00:56:06.700 This time, he wasn't driving.

00:56:10.340 As they pulled out, the FBI made their move.

00:56:16.140 The fugitive's ex-wife pulled over.

00:56:23.860 He's mad.

00:56:24.860 Stop!

00:56:25.260 Stop!

00:56:25.660 Put your hands up!

00:56:29.000 Hands up!

00:56:30.100 Stop!

00:56:33.880 The cocaine in his possession helped cement the case against one of the biggest drug traffickers on the East Coast.

00:56:42.680 And look at this, guys.

00:56:43.820 Look what I just found.

00:56:44.880 Here's an old article from 1991.

00:56:49.260 November 8th, 1991.

00:56:50.600 A New York man saw by the FBI for more than a year on cocaine distribution charges in Northern Virginia and wanted for questioning and drug trafficking.

00:56:58.820 Related killings from Washington and New York was arrested yesterday in the District.

00:57:02.380 Alberto Alpo Martinez, 25, was arrested just after midnight Thursday by the FBI and D.C. police as he drove his truck in southeast Washington near Pennsylvania and Minnesota avenues,

00:57:10.480 said his attorney, Thomas Abinante.

00:57:14.240 The FBI and D.C. police provided only scant information yesterday about Martinez's arrest, saying that their investigations into his lead drug dealings and his possible involvement in homicides are continuing.

00:57:23.320 Law force sources said Martinez is believed to have information about some highly publicized homicides here in recent months, including the July 16th killing of D.C. drug dealer Michael Anthony Salters and the October 21 daylight killings of Timothy Cohen and Mark Mullen at Sam's car wash in Oxen Hill.

00:57:39.540 A court affidavit filed in April at U.S. District Court in Alexandria in support of Martinez's arrest.

00:57:44.700 Martinez served as liaison between a New York cocaine operation and drug dealers in Washington, Northern Virginia, and Fredericksburg area.

00:57:50.880 Dressed in a brown leather coat and jeans, Martinez appeared yesterday afternoon before the U.S. Magistrate Alan Kaye and refused to waive extradition to Virginia.

00:57:59.560 Kaye ordered him detained pending a removal hearing on November 15th.

00:58:03.500 Okay, so I'm going to go ahead.

00:58:05.880 According to affidavit, Martinez was indicted on federal drug charges in July 1990 with two other men, but the indictment against Martinez was dismissed when he remained a fugitive at the time of the trial began.

00:58:14.980 The affidavit said also that additional facts came to light, further implicating Martinez in criminal conduct.

00:58:19.940 According to the affidavit, Nathaniel Watkins, Martinez co-defendant in the Alexandria case, told the FBI this year that in 1989 he was present when Martinez gave $300,000 to a fellow drug dealer in Crystal City hotel room and instructed the man to take the money to New York.

00:58:32.500 Like, Watkins told the FBI that the drug dealer rode to New York in a limousine, which he and his girlfriend followed, and they went to a Harlem apartment where they met Martinez, who had flown to New York.

00:58:42.600 So, crazy stuff.

00:58:44.320 So I'm going to go ahead and try to find this affidavit for y'all as we continue to listen to this thing.

00:58:50.500 And this is in Alexandria.

00:58:52.560 So, well, you're going to have to go on Facebook to find it.

00:58:58.980 So we're going to go ahead and figure out what district Alexandria is, but let's keep playing this thing.

00:59:02.500 Ultimately, Mr. Martin has pled guilty to an indictment in the Eastern District of Virginia, which...

00:59:08.460 Oh, perfect.

00:59:08.920 Eastern District of Virginia.

00:59:09.960 So, here, you know what?

00:59:11.360 Let's have some fun.

00:59:11.920 I'll show you guys how to do this.

00:59:13.420 Eastern District of Virginia, right?

00:59:14.840 So you're going to go ahead.

00:59:16.640 I'll duplicate this tab because we want to keep that one open.

00:59:19.700 All right.

00:59:20.280 So, Eastern District of Virginia.

00:59:26.860 Like the fucking video, by the way, guys, okay?

00:59:28.820 Because you ain't going to get this kind of information anywhere else.

00:59:31.660 Wait.

00:59:32.700 It's Western.

00:59:33.580 Eastern District of Virginia.

00:59:35.560 Okay.

00:59:36.360 And then we're going to go pacer.

00:59:39.380 All right.

00:59:40.080 You got to make an account, obviously.

00:59:41.480 So we're going to click this.

00:59:42.940 We're going to go, boom.

00:59:43.800 Eastern District of Virginia.

00:59:44.880 Doctrine and filing system.

00:59:46.160 Query.

00:59:46.840 Well, we know his last name is Martinez, right?

00:59:49.260 His first name is Alberto, I think, right?

00:59:58.540 Boom.

00:59:59.180 Defendant.

01:00:00.740 Okay.

01:00:01.440 So, here we go.

01:00:02.740 So, you guys are probably wondering, what's the difference between USA versus Martinez et

01:00:05.880 all versus Alberto Martinez?

01:00:07.280 So, it's the same exact case, guys.

01:00:08.840 You can see CMH1, CMH1.

01:00:10.680 The only difference is when it says Alberto Martinez, it's just one defendant versus if

01:00:13.960 you click the USA versus Martinez et all, that's everyone involved in the case.

01:00:17.980 So, we'll click that one so we can see everyone on the docket.

01:00:20.600 Click DACA report.

01:00:21.760 Hit run report.

01:00:22.840 Bam.

01:00:23.140 Here he is.

01:00:23.560 Alberto Martinez terminated November 2nd, 1990, probably because he got arrested and they

01:00:29.520 transferred him.

01:00:30.480 Nathaniel Watkins was also arrested.

01:00:32.340 I can't really see it.

01:00:34.060 You guys can't see it?

01:00:35.100 Oh, okay.

01:00:35.820 Good call.

01:00:36.760 Good call.

01:00:37.900 Is that better?

01:00:40.940 One more.

01:00:42.140 One more?

01:00:44.500 Yeah.

01:00:45.220 Okay.

01:00:46.220 So, what did they get him for?

01:00:47.500 They got him for, let's see here.

01:00:50.940 This was his co-defendant.

01:00:52.620 21 USC 846 conspiracy with intent to distribute five kilograms or more of cocaine.

01:00:58.360 All right.

01:00:59.260 Let's see here.

01:01:00.300 Let's.

01:01:01.460 Previous DACA entries to paper.

01:01:03.800 Affidavit support a motion to modify sentence.

01:01:06.240 Order denying one affidavit motion modify sentence.

01:01:10.580 Hmm.

01:01:11.040 Previous DACA entries.

01:01:12.020 So, the case starts in 05, which is very interesting.

01:01:16.240 Hmm.

01:01:18.340 Let's track this real quick so we can figure out.

01:01:22.440 Affidavit by Nathaniel.

01:01:23.360 This is back in.

01:01:24.100 Oh, let's see here.

01:01:25.060 Let's click this right here.

01:01:27.980 Let's view this document.

01:01:31.600 Okay.

01:01:32.480 U.S. versus Nathaniel Watkins, who was his co-defendant.

01:01:35.060 Wait.

01:01:36.000 Make it like bigger.

01:01:40.400 More.

01:01:40.840 More.

01:01:42.020 That's just one page.

01:01:43.100 It's nothing.

01:01:43.580 Basically, it's a.

01:01:48.680 Modified sentence.

01:01:50.400 Okay.

01:01:51.620 Let's go back.

01:01:55.900 Hmm.

01:01:56.820 This is strange.

01:01:58.740 That is.

01:01:59.160 This is.

01:02:00.920 Wouldn't there be more pages?

01:02:02.920 Yeah.

01:02:03.240 This is very, very interesting.

01:02:05.060 Giving it to you, huh?

01:02:05.840 That it's not showing everything that it should be showing here.

01:02:08.280 It's showing only old stuff from 2009.

01:02:10.760 Are they hiding something?

01:02:12.020 Hmm.

01:02:13.140 Well, we know he cooperated with the police, so that changes things, too.

01:02:16.580 Yeah.

01:02:17.260 Let's try this.

01:02:18.040 Let's try clicking just his case, then.

01:02:22.320 Alberto Martinez himself.

01:02:25.040 Run report.

01:02:25.640 Okay.

01:02:27.280 That's it.

01:02:29.380 That's it.

01:02:31.040 Uh-huh.

01:02:32.260 Hmm.

01:02:33.700 Hmm.

01:02:35.460 Very weird here, where you can't.

01:02:39.220 From this day, 405s are made to be electronically.

01:02:41.520 Not showing his case.

01:02:46.540 Interesting.

01:02:47.060 They probably have, like, witnesses that they don't want to, like, police.

01:02:50.680 Okay.

01:02:52.220 We'll keep going here.

01:02:53.200 Accused him of trafficking in over 1,000 kilograms of cocaine.

01:02:57.440 The wholesale value of that would be $20 million.

01:03:03.600 1,000 kilograms of cocaine.

01:03:05.380 Mr. Martinez pled guilty to an indictment in the Eastern District of Virginia, which accused him of trafficking in over 1,000 kilograms of cocaine.

01:03:15.340 Oh, shit.

01:03:15.620 Wholesale value of that would be $20 million.

01:03:23.240 Investigators also had evidence against Martinez on several gangland murders.

01:03:31.240 They told him they knew he was Richard Porter's partner, so he stood to gain from Donnell's and Richard's death.

01:03:39.960 Hoping to avoid the death penalty, Alpo Martinez agreed to cooperate.

01:03:43.960 He admitted killing his partner, Richard Porter.

01:03:54.340 Martinez had begun to suspect his partner had been cheating him out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

01:04:01.760 He said that more than a year earlier, on January 4, 1990, he and an associate had taken Richard Porter for a ride.

01:04:09.260 Almost immediately, Martinez and the associate each shot him.

01:04:19.560 They dumped his body in the Bronx Park, where it was found the next day.

01:04:24.640 Which we showed you guys.

01:04:26.120 Orchard Park Beach.

01:04:27.220 Martinez swore it was just about missing drug money.

01:04:29.960 It had nothing to do with Donnell Porter's kidnapping and murder.

01:04:39.080 No evidence or testimony linked Martinez to that crime.

01:04:42.420 They went to prison for life.

01:04:53.120 Although they had put away a major drug dealer, the local and federal investigators of the C-11 squad were no closer to solving the murder of Donnell Porter.

01:05:02.320 They reviewed FBI intelligence already gathered on other Harlem gangsters who might have profited from extorting and killing Richard Porter.

01:05:16.840 One gang stood out as likely suspects.

01:05:20.200 They were known as the Preacher Crew.

01:05:27.980 Oh, shit.

01:05:29.080 Shit's about to get real.

01:05:32.160 The gang's leader was Clarence Preacher Heatley.

01:05:39.760 FBI Special Agent Joe Walsh, formerly of the C-11 squad, knew the Preacher and his crew were well entrenched and very dangerous.

01:05:47.920 Preacher Crew was the established crew in the neighborhood, you know, for a long time.

01:05:54.020 Preacher had been kicking around the streets of Harlem since the early 70s.

01:05:56.900 And everybody knew him by his nickname, the Black Hand of Death.

01:05:59.940 And everybody was definitely afraid of him.

01:06:03.060 NYPD Sergeant James Marr of the C-11 squad learned the Preacher had a reputation for violence.

01:06:09.320 But the gangster was an elusive figure in Harlem.

01:06:13.760 You could walk up to anybody in the 32nd Precinct.

01:06:16.400 No matter how church-going they are, no matter whether they're businessmen or local drug dealers, they all have a Preacher story.

01:06:25.380 They all know who Preacher is.

01:06:27.400 Ask any of them to describe Preacher to you, or a majority of them, they're not going to be able to.

01:06:33.500 Because this guy was an infamous legend in Harlem.

01:06:37.200 The players in Harlem's drug underworld had carved up the area into zones.

01:06:46.440 Each block, each alley, was the established turf of a single dealer.

01:06:50.620 Most dealers respected the boundaries.

01:07:01.760 But the Preacher did not.

01:07:04.260 He considered all of Harlem his turf.

01:07:06.960 Now, this is actually very common, guys, where you don't have guys that are actually drug dealers.

01:07:12.940 You just have dudes that extort drug dealers and rob drug dealers, okay?

01:07:17.280 This is actually very common in the drug game.

01:07:19.400 And the reason why this gets by so easily is because, well, drug dealers aren't going to go to the police, right?

01:07:24.760 Like, they're not going to be like, oh, hey, bro, cops, you know, I got to file a complaint.

01:07:30.980 You know, they stole my cocaine.

01:07:33.040 Excuse me?

01:07:33.700 Yeah, they stole five kilos of coke of mine.

01:07:35.460 I got the rest, though.

01:07:36.440 You know, I got another three keys of the house.

01:07:37.740 But they stole five.

01:07:38.760 So I'd like to file a police report.

01:07:40.300 What the?

01:07:40.700 You know what I'm saying?

01:07:41.140 They're going to be like, what the fuck?

01:07:42.120 Like, stupid.

01:07:43.040 And then you're going to go to jail, right?

01:07:44.960 So drug dealers know this, and they can't necessarily go to the police.

01:07:48.760 So they're ripe for being robbed by people like this, okay?

01:07:53.400 We call them drug rippers or rip crews, all right?

01:07:56.380 You have anything on this, Christina?

01:07:58.280 No, that's why there's so much freaking murderers out there.

01:08:00.580 Yeah.

01:08:01.080 Like, I was going to go to the cops.

01:08:05.780 He made his money not by dealing drugs, but by taxing other dealers.

01:08:14.120 He was mostly into extroverts.

01:08:15.500 And taxing guys, right?

01:08:17.460 Taxing really means beating the shit out of them, hitting them with the fucking...

01:08:21.400 And a couple of...

01:08:24.520 You know what I'm saying?

01:08:28.040 Pretty much this is what happens.

01:08:29.560 They roll up on a crew, right?

01:08:30.820 Like, oh, you guys are dealing drugs, right?

01:08:33.620 Right?

01:08:33.880 They're dealing drugs.

01:08:34.380 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:08:34.900 Everything's all good, you know?

01:08:36.760 Yeah, we're going to make some money, bro.

01:08:38.260 Yeah, we're about to really get paid.

01:08:40.720 Yeah.

01:08:41.000 Most dealers respected the bounty.

01:08:42.320 Is lit, right?

01:08:44.340 Then these niggas show up, pull up in the car.

01:08:46.800 But the preacher did not.

01:08:48.860 Next thing you know.

01:08:49.660 Considered all the power.

01:08:52.200 Hey, y'all dealing drugs?

01:08:53.780 All right, come here.

01:08:54.660 All right, come here.

01:08:55.400 And they're good money not by doing drugs.

01:08:59.340 Look at him just sitting.

01:09:00.560 They just beat the shit out, these dudes, bro.

01:09:02.600 Hit him with the fucking...

01:09:03.760 He's mostly into extortion.

01:09:05.540 Extorting drug deals.

01:09:06.960 These are guys that were violent in their own right.

01:09:10.020 He would go up and claim their car.

01:09:12.980 If a drug dealer looked like he was getting paid, so to say,

01:09:16.380 he was driving a brand new full-size Mercedes-Benz,

01:09:19.720 and Preacher liked that car, that was Preacher's.

01:09:23.720 Those who argued with Preacher paid a heavy price.

01:09:27.260 It was a system that made him a rich man.

01:09:30.700 Yep.

01:09:32.880 If you're hitting every other drug dealer on the streets,

01:09:35.640 you know, 2,000 here, 3,000 here, 5,000 there,

01:09:37.920 that's a lot of money.

01:09:38.520 It adds up.

01:09:39.060 And believe me, they all paid.

01:09:40.300 Because if they didn't pay, Preacher would pay him a visit,

01:09:42.520 or he would order his people to pay him a visit,

01:09:44.220 and they'd wind up dead.

01:09:45.460 Especially in the 90s.

01:09:47.020 The Preacher's history of extortion and violence

01:09:49.220 made him a likely suspect in the abduction and murder

01:09:51.820 of Donnell Porter.

01:09:54.000 C-11 had outlined the basic structure of the Preacher crew.

01:10:02.380 The Preacher's main lieutenant was a man named John Cuff.

01:10:09.060 He was a particularly dangerous criminal,

01:10:11.260 according to C-11's detective, Vinnie Flynn.

01:10:15.180 John Cuff was an ex-New York City housing cop.

01:10:18.720 As a cop, he provided protection and bodyguard work for Preacher.

01:10:25.280 So if they were driving through the neighborhood and were stopped,

01:10:31.340 John Cuff had a shield where he would probably be let go

01:10:35.580 and not given a summons or anything further would happen.

01:10:41.120 John Cuff had a reputation of one to be feared,

01:10:44.440 a very violent person.

01:10:46.120 Yet no evidence linked either man to Donnell Porter.

01:10:52.620 Though C-11's suspected Preacher was involved in it.

01:10:55.500 So now you've got a dirty cop as well involved in this thing,

01:10:57.920 or a former police officer, right,

01:10:59.340 that worked for the housing authority.

01:11:01.960 The deadly kidnapping.

01:11:03.500 He probably didn't commit it himself.

01:11:05.400 He distanced himself from most of the crimes,

01:11:13.000 having his main lieutenant and other henchmen carry out his orders.

01:11:16.060 I know you got so much.

01:11:18.360 I know you got so much.

01:11:19.900 At Preacher's command,

01:11:24.480 their brutal extortion tactics earned them money

01:11:26.860 and kept witnesses too intimidated to talk,

01:11:30.360 effectively insulating the crew against investigation.

01:11:33.160 We go into a, you know, a bodega.

01:11:39.500 Yeah, so this is crazy shit, man.

01:11:41.480 Like, they're just going ahead and just extorting people

01:11:43.540 like it's the 80s, you know what I'm saying?

01:11:44.760 Like, mafia type shit.

01:11:45.720 Wait, doesn't he look like L.O. Coche?

01:11:47.320 A little bit.

01:11:48.380 So, you guys are probably wondering,

01:11:49.460 what is the New York City Housing Authority Police Department?

01:11:51.320 Real quick, this is a part what John Cuff was,

01:11:53.120 when they were speaking about that guy John Cuff,

01:11:55.740 right, who was a member of the Preacher crew.

01:11:57.820 The NYC Housing Authority Police Department

01:11:59.520 was a law enforcement agency in New York City

01:12:01.360 that existed from 1952 to 1995,

01:12:03.860 which was then merged into the NYPD.

01:12:05.460 The roots of this organization go back to 1934,

01:12:07.840 the creation of the New York City Police Housing Authority.

01:12:10.820 New York City Mayor Fiorello H. LaGuardia

01:12:13.360 authorized the hiring of security guards

01:12:14.720 to patrol the city's public housing buildings.

01:12:16.200 These guards eventually retrained

01:12:17.540 and became the first officers of the housing police,

01:12:19.280 which was officially created in 1952.

01:12:21.080 The housing police along with New York City Transit Police

01:12:22.640 was merged into the New York City Police Department

01:12:25.820 in 1995 by New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani

01:12:28.320 and continues today as the Housing Bureau, okay?

01:12:32.060 So, they're all within NYPD now,

01:12:34.800 but obviously back then they were separated, okay?

01:12:39.000 And in the early 90s.

01:12:43.780 You know, someplace up in Holland,

01:12:45.360 they would say,

01:12:46.100 we know he came in here

01:12:47.080 and the guy would have a cast on his hand,

01:12:48.880 we know he broke your hand.

01:12:50.600 And the shop owner would say,

01:12:52.720 I don't know what you're talking about, you know?

01:12:54.380 And that shop owner would be paying rent,

01:12:56.420 you know, or taxed to Preacher.

01:12:58.980 But nobody would tell us anything.

01:13:00.480 And that's how scared they were.

01:13:02.200 And guys, extortion is a crime

01:13:03.560 that's been existing for decades, man.

01:13:05.640 Basically, you got a gang,

01:13:07.240 they're strong arm in small businesses.

01:13:08.860 Hey, you want to operate here

01:13:10.000 without getting fucked with?

01:13:11.160 You need to pay us a fee.

01:13:12.200 You know, you got to pay us a monthly bill

01:13:13.460 or a protection fee, extortion fee,

01:13:16.300 whatever you want to call it.

01:13:17.760 But this is common.

01:13:18.720 The mafia used to do this.

01:13:19.680 Gangs do this.

01:13:21.160 You know, Asian organized crime used to do this.

01:13:23.180 And it's a way to, you know,

01:13:24.680 make, earn money for the gang.

01:13:27.560 With people too afraid to talk,

01:13:29.920 crimes continue to pile up.

01:13:31.540 On New Year's Eve, 1992,

01:13:36.840 emergency units responded to a call

01:13:38.860 in the Preacher's territory.

01:13:41.240 A man lay dead in his car,

01:13:43.360 the victim of a drive-by shooting.

01:13:51.640 His family survived the harrowing ordeal.

01:13:54.180 They described how the killers

01:13:58.060 pulled up next to them on the street

01:13:59.660 and opened fire.

01:14:05.560 Not giving a fuck in the early 90s, man.

01:14:08.080 This used to happen, guys.

01:14:09.480 You know what I'm saying?

01:14:09.940 Like, this legit would happen.

01:14:11.980 You know, remember, guys,

01:14:14.700 cameras, cell phones,

01:14:16.820 none of this stuff was existent,

01:14:18.380 you know, in the early 90s, late 80s.

01:14:20.360 They claimed they didn't know

01:14:25.360 who did it or why.

01:14:28.860 And like Danelle's kidnapping,

01:14:31.040 no one in the neighborhood

01:14:32.140 admitted seeing anything.

01:14:35.960 It was another tragic killing in Harlem

01:14:38.380 that might go unsolved.

01:14:40.260 The C-11 squad had to breach

01:14:45.400 the area's violently enforced

01:14:47.120 code of silence

01:14:48.180 and finally get insiders to talk.

01:14:53.700 A shocking drive-by shooting

01:14:55.520 was added to the list

01:14:56.660 of unsolved murders in Harlem.

01:15:01.040 With witnesses too afraid

01:15:02.380 to cooperate with police,

01:15:03.900 the case was open for...

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01:15:14.040 Christina, you got anything

01:15:14.560 you want to tell people?

01:15:16.300 No, nothing right now.

01:15:17.840 All right.

01:15:18.380 I'm like into it.

01:15:20.200 For two years.

01:15:22.380 Oh, yeah, she hasn't seen

01:15:23.260 this episode, guys,

01:15:23.960 so she's watching it

01:15:24.640 alongside with y'all.

01:15:27.360 Then in 1994,

01:15:28.820 the C-11 squad

01:15:30.140 found a witness

01:15:30.920 who told them

01:15:31.520 the shooter was

01:15:32.140 a preacher crew member

01:15:33.100 named Malik.

01:15:34.000 Detective Vinnie Flynn

01:15:38.120 learned that Malik

01:15:38.940 had a violent reputation.

01:15:42.940 He became

01:15:44.080 a so-called

01:15:45.200 director of security

01:15:46.080 for the preacher organization.

01:15:48.520 He was in charge

01:15:49.720 of a group of members

01:15:51.640 who were known

01:15:52.640 as the janitors.

01:15:53.520 The janitors

01:15:54.080 were the people

01:15:54.720 that had to clean up

01:15:55.620 the problems

01:15:56.980 or the mess of the family.

01:15:58.440 And you couldn't be a janitor

01:15:59.760 unless you killed somebody.

01:16:00.760 To get more

01:16:03.880 on Malik

01:16:04.340 and the preacher crew,

01:16:05.700 C-11 tried to send

01:16:06.920 in undercover officers.

01:16:11.580 It was yet

01:16:12.440 another dead end,

01:16:13.580 according to FBI

01:16:14.340 special agent

01:16:15.100 Joe Walsh.

01:16:16.600 Yeah, trying to put

01:16:17.560 in an undercover agent,

01:16:18.800 bro, with

01:16:19.300 a crew like this

01:16:23.640 in Harlem, bro.

01:16:24.640 Hell, no.

01:16:25.300 They ain't taking

01:16:25.840 nobody in.

01:16:28.940 We weren't able

01:16:29.860 to really get in,

01:16:31.780 so to speak,

01:16:32.420 and get an undercover

01:16:33.280 in there to buy

01:16:34.160 narcotics from Preacher.

01:16:36.220 Because Preacher

01:16:36.640 was very, very careful.

01:16:38.280 He was, you know,

01:16:38.740 he's a very smart man.

01:16:40.140 And we couldn't get

01:16:41.120 the undercover,

01:16:42.620 you know, close to him.

01:16:46.140 Not only that,

01:16:46.900 but, you know,

01:16:47.400 he might deal

01:16:47.940 some drugs here or there.

01:16:48.900 But for the most part, man,

01:16:49.780 these guys are taxing

01:16:50.640 drug dealers.

01:16:51.280 Like, they take

01:16:52.060 all the risk away.

01:16:52.820 They just beat them up

01:16:53.500 and take their money.

01:16:54.820 So, you know,

01:16:55.820 he's not going to really

01:16:56.480 deal on dope

01:16:56.960 unless he really,

01:16:57.700 really knows you

01:16:58.140 because he don't need

01:16:58.580 to make money like that,

01:16:59.420 you know,

01:16:59.720 because he's already

01:17:00.140 extorting the drug dealers.

01:17:01.620 The Preacher

01:17:02.220 had closed ranks,

01:17:03.360 ordering the people

01:17:04.060 he extorted

01:17:04.560 not to sell to new buyers

01:17:05.860 and to keep a low profile

01:17:07.600 on the street.

01:17:11.540 This is common, guys.

01:17:12.820 You know,

01:17:13.180 people think

01:17:13.720 undercover work is easy.

01:17:14.780 When I was an agent myself,

01:17:16.120 it's very difficult

01:17:17.380 to buy drugs

01:17:18.400 from dealers

01:17:19.200 because they're only

01:17:19.880 going to sell

01:17:20.280 to people they know.

01:17:21.000 They're going to sell

01:17:21.400 to fiends.

01:17:21.820 They're not going to sell

01:17:22.300 to a new customer

01:17:22.980 that they've never met before.

01:17:24.220 They could be

01:17:25.000 an informant.

01:17:25.740 They could be

01:17:26.060 an undercover cop.

01:17:26.840 They don't know what it is.

01:17:27.580 So a lot of the times,

01:17:28.800 this is common

01:17:29.940 where they won't sell

01:17:30.720 to people they don't know.

01:17:32.000 Especially back then

01:17:32.860 in the 80s, 90s,

01:17:33.980 man,

01:17:34.140 they were getting money anyway.

01:17:35.000 So they don't need

01:17:35.660 to sell to new people

01:17:36.500 like that.

01:17:37.700 Investigators needed

01:17:38.380 a witness

01:17:38.820 with close ties

01:17:39.780 to the crew.

01:17:47.400 They distributed

01:17:48.160 business cards

01:17:49.100 hoping one would

01:17:49.940 find its way

01:17:50.660 to an insider

01:17:51.560 willing to talk.

01:17:56.320 That's ambitious.

01:17:57.280 I would never

01:17:58.000 walk around,

01:18:03.600 you know,

01:18:03.840 giving my business card

01:18:04.600 out to people in the hood.

01:18:05.460 I mean, hey,

01:18:06.160 you know,

01:18:06.400 at this point,

01:18:06.860 they're probably

01:18:07.260 reaching dead ends.

01:18:07.960 Remember, guys,

01:18:08.480 we're now five years

01:18:09.500 into this investigation.

01:18:10.460 This is 1994 now,

01:18:11.880 you know,

01:18:12.080 mind you.

01:18:12.840 So they're starting

01:18:13.720 to run out of,

01:18:14.360 you know,

01:18:14.880 steam a bit here.

01:18:15.740 So I'm not surprised

01:18:16.980 that they're,

01:18:17.460 you know,

01:18:17.880 at this point,

01:18:18.440 they understand

01:18:18.960 that the preacher crew

01:18:19.680 is running things.

01:18:20.280 They're an insulated

01:18:20.760 criminal organization.

01:18:22.480 They don't necessarily

01:18:23.280 let people in.

01:18:24.280 They need someone

01:18:24.820 on the inside,

01:18:25.360 so they're passing

01:18:25.800 out business cards,

01:18:26.880 potentially even

01:18:27.400 offering a reward.

01:18:28.300 So I get it,

01:18:29.200 you know,

01:18:29.420 because we're five years

01:18:30.180 down the road now.

01:18:31.000 You know,

01:18:31.300 fast forward, guys,

01:18:31.980 this is not 1989 anymore

01:18:33.200 when Donnell got kidnapped.

01:18:34.400 This is 1994 now.

01:18:36.240 Their persistence

01:18:48.040 paid off.

01:18:51.900 In April 1994,

01:18:54.120 a crew member

01:18:55.200 contacted the C-11 squad

01:18:56.900 because he realized

01:18:57.800 his life was in danger.

01:18:59.120 He said the preacher

01:19:06.660 had started going

01:19:07.420 after his own crew members.

01:19:11.220 Preacher had killed

01:19:12.000 two of the informant's partners.

01:19:18.740 Fearing he was...

01:19:19.480 He's going crazy.

01:19:20.500 He asked Sergeant James Marr.

01:19:21.880 And the thing with preacher,

01:19:22.660 guys,

01:19:22.900 is he didn't just kill them.

01:19:23.720 He tortured them too,

01:19:24.660 which is why this guy

01:19:25.320 was so terrified.

01:19:26.000 You know,

01:19:26.880 he must have been

01:19:27.400 at his last,

01:19:28.500 you know,

01:19:29.620 his last string here

01:19:30.880 to go to the police,

01:19:31.740 go to the feds.

01:19:32.880 So, you know.

01:19:34.440 Far for protection.

01:19:36.480 It was a stone-cold

01:19:37.720 killer himself

01:19:38.460 who became an informant

01:19:40.120 that was so fearful

01:19:42.220 of preacher

01:19:42.860 and of being killed

01:19:43.900 like his partner's had

01:19:44.940 that he came to me,

01:19:47.140 that he came to us,

01:19:48.000 that he gave us information

01:19:49.100 on specific crimes.

01:19:50.340 So he talked about crimes

01:19:51.420 that had been unsolved

01:19:52.360 for years.

01:19:53.000 Investigators were frustrated

01:19:56.360 that the informant

01:19:57.160 knew nothing

01:19:57.660 of 12-year-old

01:19:58.620 Donnell Porter's

01:19:59.580 kidnapping and murder.

01:20:02.040 But he did give investigators

01:20:03.620 their first specific

01:20:04.920 insider information

01:20:06.220 about Peter Heatley's

01:20:07.420 organization.

01:20:10.900 He mentioned

01:20:11.820 a killing basement

01:20:12.900 that the crew used

01:20:13.960 as a meeting place

01:20:14.860 and execution chamber.

01:20:16.340 Killing basement.

01:20:23.280 Crazy.

01:20:23.600 In meetings,

01:20:25.100 Preacher would call

01:20:25.760 for a vote

01:20:26.320 on the fate of gang members

01:20:27.660 who had fallen out of favor.

01:20:29.440 Killer.

01:20:30.300 If the majority

01:20:31.000 voted thumbs down,

01:20:32.660 Preacher ordered a murder.

01:20:36.020 In March 1994,

01:20:38.520 Preacher called for a vote

01:20:39.540 on Malik,

01:20:40.460 the janitor

01:20:41.100 who had done

01:20:41.680 the drive-by shooting.

01:20:43.860 He believed Malik

01:20:44.940 could no longer

01:20:45.540 be trusted.

01:20:50.820 The vote

01:20:51.760 was thumbs down.

01:20:53.580 Oh, shit.

01:20:55.520 Malik!

01:21:02.700 Preacher summoned

01:21:03.720 Malik to head for us.

01:21:05.100 How y'all doing?

01:21:05.940 I ain't more club, man.

01:21:07.520 What club?

01:21:08.940 What club, man?

01:21:10.040 What club?

01:21:10.780 You don't ain't seen

01:21:11.700 more time.

01:21:12.240 What you been at, man?

01:21:13.140 What club?

01:21:13.680 What's that?

01:21:14.080 Malik thought he was there

01:21:16.640 to take part

01:21:17.260 in the beating

01:21:17.740 of a crew member

01:21:18.500 that he had had problems

01:21:19.560 with in the past.

01:21:21.680 Oh, so he hyped.

01:21:22.580 He's like,

01:21:22.820 yeah, we all beat

01:21:23.320 the shit off

01:21:23.720 this motherfucker.

01:21:24.400 Yeah.

01:21:24.780 Woo!

01:21:25.300 Yeah.

01:21:26.460 All right.

01:21:27.100 Word, word.

01:21:27.960 Next thing you know.

01:21:29.640 Not realizing

01:21:30.440 he was the real target.

01:21:32.460 Malik was excited

01:21:33.380 when others invited

01:21:34.300 him to the basement.

01:21:35.100 He was excited.

01:21:42.280 He's over here thinking

01:21:43.020 like, yeah, bro,

01:21:43.800 we gonna beat

01:21:44.340 the shit out

01:21:44.760 this boy.

01:21:47.580 If you went down there

01:21:48.780 and you were followed

01:21:50.000 in there,

01:21:51.340 you know,

01:21:51.640 somebody who's behind you,

01:21:52.540 you weren't coming

01:21:52.980 and I'm alive.

01:21:53.540 Yo, Sean,

01:21:54.140 let's go get this door, Sean.

01:21:56.020 Let's go get it.

01:21:56.740 I'm telling you.

01:21:57.320 Yeah, do this thing, man.

01:21:58.300 Yeah, do this thing, man.

01:21:58.320 Yeah, do this thing, man.

01:21:59.480 Yo, oh, shit.

01:22:00.520 Freeze, freeze, freeze.

01:22:01.400 Oh, shit.

01:22:03.360 Now he knows it's time.

01:22:06.260 Oh, man.

01:22:10.600 You fucked up that drive-by.

01:22:12.540 You fucked it up.

01:22:14.040 You brought way

01:22:14.880 too much attention

01:22:15.580 to us, man.

01:22:16.740 So now,

01:22:18.000 yeet!

01:22:19.560 What's up, man?

01:22:20.200 What's up, man?

01:22:20.960 What's up?

01:22:21.800 What's up?

01:22:22.220 What's up?

01:22:22.920 Oh, man.

01:22:24.000 Yo, preacher, man.

01:22:24.780 Come on.

01:22:25.140 Preacher told Malik

01:22:26.100 he had to die.

01:22:29.060 He was gaining

01:22:29.880 too much influence

01:22:30.940 within the organization.

01:22:33.500 Preacher wouldn't tolerate it.

01:22:36.380 Malik pleaded for his life.

01:22:38.640 Come on, man.

01:22:41.360 But the order

01:22:42.140 had been given.

01:22:44.880 Grab the saw, Sean.

01:22:46.620 Clean him up.

01:22:47.580 At Preacher's command,

01:22:49.020 other janitors

01:22:49.780 used a circular saw

01:22:51.120 to dismember Malik.

01:22:55.180 Damn, dismember him.

01:22:56.740 Get that a foot line.

01:23:00.840 The informant said

01:23:01.940 that Preacher ordered him

01:23:03.040 and another crew member

01:23:04.080 to dispose of the body parts.

01:23:05.900 This is the guy

01:23:06.380 you work for, right?

01:23:09.400 Holy shit.

01:23:11.460 They poured acid

01:23:12.520 on Malik's arms

01:23:13.400 to remove gang tattoos

01:23:14.780 that could link him

01:23:15.500 to the crew.

01:23:16.720 Oh, wow.

01:23:18.700 Then they left the body parts

01:23:20.240 in several crumbling

01:23:21.280 abandoned buildings.

01:23:22.660 That's pretty smart.

01:23:23.620 You know,

01:23:23.980 put acid on the tattoos

01:23:26.020 to remove any type

01:23:27.040 of affiliation

01:23:27.840 and then they left it

01:23:29.060 in abandoned buildings.

01:23:30.900 They kept Malik's head

01:23:34.380 in a refrigerator

01:23:35.800 for a couple of weeks

01:23:37.140 and they kind of

01:23:38.480 paraded it around

01:23:39.120 on a stick.

01:23:40.840 You know,

01:23:41.200 that's how Preacher

01:23:41.940 would, you know,

01:23:42.700 keep the fear

01:23:43.740 of God,

01:23:45.300 so to speak,

01:23:46.000 in the younger Turks

01:23:47.960 and his organization.

01:23:51.180 The fear was too much

01:23:52.520 for the informant,

01:23:53.540 though he knew

01:23:53.880 leaving the crew

01:23:54.540 was equivalent

01:23:55.140 to a death sentence.

01:23:56.920 Woof, man.

01:23:58.280 He hoped the C-11 squad

01:23:59.740 could protect him.

01:24:00.520 No, it was him.

01:24:07.040 It didn't take long

01:24:08.240 for word to get back

01:24:09.140 to the Preacher

01:24:09.720 that the informant

01:24:10.560 had cooperated.

01:24:11.900 Of course.

01:24:12.460 One day,

01:24:15.340 the informant

01:24:15.900 was leaving

01:24:16.320 a New York courthouse

01:24:17.360 when he spotted

01:24:18.200 Preacher and Cuff.

01:24:21.220 Remember, guys,

01:24:21.960 Cuff is the former

01:24:22.800 police officer,

01:24:24.080 so Preacher and Cuff.

01:24:25.220 Cuff is his main guy.

01:24:28.380 He was sure

01:24:29.200 they were there

01:24:29.740 to abduct and kill him.

01:24:36.460 He went to his car

01:24:37.680 and called his C-11 handlers.

01:24:39.300 So he calls

01:24:42.920 the agents

01:24:43.620 that are, you know,

01:24:44.260 handling him

01:24:44.760 because he's an informant

01:24:45.500 now at this point,

01:24:46.080 probably documented.

01:24:47.740 And he's like,

01:24:48.400 yo, these guys

01:24:49.320 are fucking behind me, bro.

01:24:50.660 What do I do?

01:24:51.580 So obviously,

01:24:52.620 the police, right,

01:24:53.500 you got to protect

01:24:54.080 your informant, bro.

01:24:54.780 And this has happened

01:24:55.300 to me before, too,

01:24:56.220 where you got to

01:24:56.760 fucking rush out

01:24:57.360 and get your guy.

01:24:59.400 The informant advised me

01:25:00.660 that his fear

01:25:01.920 that he was going

01:25:02.440 to be killed

01:25:02.780 by the organization,

01:25:04.000 he was going to be abducted

01:25:05.540 right in the middle

01:25:06.120 of the afternoon

01:25:06.680 in the front of the courthouse.

01:25:09.300 The agents of C-11

01:25:12.740 rushed to stop

01:25:14.020 another murder

01:25:14.780 in the preacher's territory.

01:25:20.640 A former member

01:25:21.800 of the preacher crew

01:25:22.720 feared the gang

01:25:23.760 was out to kill him

01:25:24.660 for cooperating

01:25:25.420 with authorities.

01:25:33.640 Agents and detectives

01:25:34.860 from the FBI's C-11 squad

01:25:36.640 came to his aid

01:25:37.560 just in time.

01:25:39.700 They would have killed

01:25:40.380 that boy, man.

01:25:50.340 They arrested

01:25:51.040 Maine Lieutenant

01:25:51.780 John Cuff

01:25:52.620 and the crew leader himself,

01:25:54.220 Clarence Preacher Heatley.

01:25:57.200 He does look like

01:25:58.200 LL Cool J.

01:25:58.880 Yo, man.

01:26:03.480 Ha ha!

01:26:07.160 Sergeant James Ma

01:26:08.440 and the other

01:26:08.960 arresting agents

01:26:09.860 searched the vehicle.

01:26:12.860 All right.

01:26:13.700 What have we got here?

01:26:15.420 There was evidence inside

01:26:16.740 including information

01:26:17.760 about my informant,

01:26:19.540 masks, tape.

01:26:21.720 It was apparent

01:26:22.440 at the time

01:26:23.180 that my informant's

01:26:24.480 feelings were right.

01:26:26.420 He was going to be

01:26:26.940 abducted that day.

01:26:27.760 Yep.

01:26:30.000 There's info,

01:26:30.940 they had ropes,

01:26:31.680 all this type of shit.

01:26:32.680 They were ready

01:26:33.160 to kidnap that boy, man.

01:26:34.900 ...could prove

01:26:35.480 that the men

01:26:35.900 were coming

01:26:36.280 to kill the informant.

01:26:38.340 20 minutes

01:26:38.940 is all it took.

01:26:40.500 The preacher

01:26:41.340 and Cuff

01:26:42.180 were released.

01:26:44.900 The incident

01:26:46.300 brought the C-11 squad's

01:26:47.920 investigation of the crew

01:26:49.100 into the open.

01:26:49.900 One, two,

01:26:50.380 one, two,

01:26:52.380 one, two,

01:26:54.900 that's when it

01:26:58.720 became apparent

01:26:59.320 that they were

01:27:00.720 being investigated

01:27:01.400 by the FBI.

01:27:02.880 I mean,

01:27:03.120 here's this detective

01:27:03.980 that they know

01:27:04.540 from the 3-2

01:27:05.320 that when he does

01:27:06.520 make an arrest,

01:27:07.200 makes arrests

01:27:07.680 with FBI agents.

01:27:10.080 It became apparent

01:27:11.400 to Cuff

01:27:12.880 and Preacher

01:27:13.340 that the FBI

01:27:14.860 was breathing

01:27:15.420 down their neck.

01:27:16.540 And this is

01:27:17.540 true, guys.

01:27:18.620 Like,

01:27:18.720 if you,

01:27:18.980 you know,

01:27:19.420 if you see

01:27:20.380 a detective,

01:27:21.260 right,

01:27:21.460 and you live,

01:27:22.020 you know,

01:27:22.880 I'll give an example.

01:27:23.840 When I was an agent,

01:27:24.680 right,

01:27:25.640 there was a guy

01:27:26.180 I worked with.

01:27:26.660 He was a sheriff's deputy,

01:27:28.060 right,

01:27:28.220 he was a lieutenant,

01:27:29.420 but he was assigned

01:27:30.880 to DEA.

01:27:32.040 So everyone

01:27:32.680 in the local area

01:27:33.680 knew he was

01:27:34.220 a sheriff's deputy,

01:27:35.060 but they knew

01:27:35.880 he was assigned

01:27:36.460 to DEA.

01:27:37.180 So they knew

01:27:37.660 if he showed up,

01:27:38.300 oh, shit,

01:27:39.180 he's DEA,

01:27:40.060 they're here

01:27:40.380 for a federal

01:27:41.220 drug investigation.

01:27:42.440 Same thing

01:27:42.900 with this detective here.

01:27:44.540 He's a detective

01:27:45.280 with NYPD,

01:27:46.200 however,

01:27:46.580 he's assigned

01:27:46.980 to the FBI.

01:27:47.900 So when he does

01:27:48.420 make arrests,

01:27:48.900 he's there with FBI agents.

01:27:49.760 So they already know,

01:27:50.400 oh, shit,

01:27:51.380 this guy's NYPD,

01:27:52.660 but he's assigned

01:27:53.200 to the FBI,

01:27:54.300 this isn't good.

01:27:55.200 So at this point,

01:27:56.500 they're probably like,

01:27:58.160 oh, this isn't good,

01:27:58.980 the feds are on us.

01:28:00.180 You know,

01:28:00.420 it's one thing

01:28:00.900 to get wrapped up

01:28:02.020 with the regular police,

01:28:03.100 you know,

01:28:03.280 local police,

01:28:03.880 oh, yeah,

01:28:04.280 murder,

01:28:04.720 whatever the hell,

01:28:05.260 okay,

01:28:05.580 whatever,

01:28:05.880 I'll beat that shit.

01:28:06.680 But then when it's

01:28:07.700 NYPD detective,

01:28:08.780 there were FBI agents

01:28:09.780 and then you know

01:28:10.440 now that it's officially

01:28:11.460 the feds are on you

01:28:12.420 and it's a gang investigation,

01:28:14.300 that's when people

01:28:14.720 start to get

01:28:15.120 a little bit more nervous.

01:28:15.940 Preacher further

01:28:22.600 insulated himself.

01:28:25.060 The FBI would have

01:28:26.320 to get him

01:28:26.740 by going after

01:28:27.440 his organization.

01:28:29.980 To prosecute,

01:28:30.960 they would use

01:28:31.380 federal racketeering

01:28:32.360 statutes known

01:28:33.140 as RICO.

01:28:36.140 Originally designed

01:28:37.220 to bring down

01:28:37.820 organized crime families,

01:28:40.040 RICO requires

01:28:40.800 that strict criteria

01:28:41.960 are met.

01:28:42.540 Here comes RICO

01:28:44.240 again, guys.

01:28:45.380 The FBI special agent

01:28:46.540 Joe Walsh.

01:28:49.180 You have to have

01:28:49.860 your organization,

01:28:50.960 you have to have

01:28:51.440 your leader,

01:28:52.140 which in this case

01:28:52.720 was Preacher,

01:28:53.260 and he has to have

01:28:53.740 five or more people

01:28:54.600 working underneath him

01:28:55.540 to facilitate

01:28:57.200 the conspiracy

01:28:58.580 of the organization.

01:29:00.020 But you also need

01:29:00.920 three predicate offenses,

01:29:03.220 three federal offenses.

01:29:05.940 The C-11 investigators

01:29:07.220 surveilled the Preacher.

01:29:08.180 And you also need

01:29:08.900 to get the RICO,

01:29:09.760 I mean,

01:29:10.000 this is from the 90s,

01:29:11.000 but now RICO

01:29:11.640 is a little bit tougher.

01:29:12.540 You also have to get

01:29:13.300 the Department of Justice

01:29:14.120 to approve

01:29:14.880 of your case

01:29:16.760 as a racketeering case,

01:29:18.080 which, you know,

01:29:18.740 is pretty difficult as well.

01:29:19.840 You've got to send up

01:29:20.300 a bunch of paperwork

01:29:20.900 to headquarters.

01:29:21.840 They look at it,

01:29:22.740 they see if they're actually

01:29:23.900 like a national gang

01:29:24.880 or they fit the requirements

01:29:27.500 of being a national gang.

01:29:29.100 In this case,

01:29:29.580 the Preacher crew,

01:29:30.140 it's not like their blood's

01:29:30.940 a crypt or something like that.

01:29:32.060 So you have to pretty much

01:29:33.420 draft up how they're

01:29:34.520 an organized crime group,

01:29:37.660 et cetera,

01:29:38.380 to get them approved

01:29:39.220 under racketeering.

01:29:40.100 So that's how

01:29:42.200 they're able to do it.

01:29:42.860 The Preacher crew

01:29:43.780 gathering evidence

01:29:45.060 on offenses

01:29:45.600 to support the RICO case.

01:29:51.520 They noticed unrest

01:29:53.160 within the gang.

01:29:58.800 It seemed the pressure

01:30:00.200 of C-11's investigation

01:30:01.560 was getting to the Preacher.

01:30:04.600 You know the Feds

01:30:05.260 is on him now.

01:30:05.680 I'm an informant.

01:30:06.760 Agents learned

01:30:07.380 he even ordered the murder

01:30:08.600 of his main lieutenant,

01:30:09.980 John Cuff.

01:30:10.760 Oh, shit.

01:30:14.980 Agents were obligated

01:30:16.140 to warn Cuff of the hit.

01:30:21.680 John Cuff!

01:30:23.100 I reached for my shield.

01:30:24.140 He goes,

01:30:24.680 I know who you are.

01:30:26.200 You don't have to show me

01:30:26.880 your shield.

01:30:27.260 I said,

01:30:28.220 you know, John,

01:30:29.100 I just want to let you know

01:30:29.880 that there's a contract

01:30:31.040 out of your life

01:30:31.640 and I swear

01:30:33.140 there's nothing but space

01:30:34.000 when you look in his eyes

01:30:34.860 and he goes,

01:30:35.980 everybody wants me dead.

01:30:38.960 Now,

01:30:39.740 normally, guys,

01:30:40.500 when you have to notify

01:30:41.200 people like this,

01:30:42.160 this is like a turning point

01:30:43.220 in the investigation.

01:30:44.160 I'll tell you guys why.

01:30:45.400 So,

01:30:45.800 when you get information

01:30:48.100 from an informant,

01:30:49.100 from a wiretap,

01:30:50.160 from some credible source

01:30:51.520 that someone's life

01:30:52.540 is in danger,

01:30:53.540 a lot of the time

01:30:54.200 you have to notify

01:30:54.900 that individual, okay?

01:30:57.440 You have to, you know,

01:30:58.520 because if something happens

01:30:59.300 to them,

01:30:59.600 then you could be held liable,

01:31:00.800 right?

01:31:00.940 The government could be held liable.

01:31:01.900 So, you have to let that person

01:31:02.720 know that their life

01:31:03.300 is in danger.

01:31:04.080 Or there's a, you know,

01:31:05.080 there's a valid threat

01:31:05.840 on their life, okay?

01:31:06.600 It's got to be valid

01:31:07.140 to a degree, though.

01:31:08.320 So,

01:31:09.080 what happens is

01:31:09.780 when you notify that person,

01:31:11.800 that's an opportunity

01:31:12.600 to flip that person

01:31:13.440 because nine out of ten times

01:31:14.520 when there's a threat

01:31:15.460 on their life,

01:31:16.320 it's from someone

01:31:17.220 that you're typically

01:31:18.020 probably investigating.

01:31:19.400 And that person

01:31:20.180 is involved in an organization

01:31:21.180 to some degree

01:31:21.920 and you're able

01:31:23.500 to kind of get that person,

01:31:24.560 hey, listen, man,

01:31:25.060 you want to cooperate

01:31:25.660 because these motherfuckers

01:31:26.660 want you dead,

01:31:27.600 et cetera, et cetera.

01:31:28.620 So,

01:31:29.520 that could work in your favor

01:31:30.660 or it can backfire.

01:31:31.820 It could work in your favor

01:31:32.480 where they say,

01:31:32.900 you know what?

01:31:33.180 I'll cooperate.

01:31:34.160 Or it'll hurt

01:31:35.080 where they say,

01:31:35.600 nah, I'm good.

01:31:36.080 I don't want to cooperate

01:31:36.700 and then, bam,

01:31:37.160 you just kind of,

01:31:38.000 you know,

01:31:39.300 showed your hand, right?

01:31:40.640 And then he can go back

01:31:41.420 and tell this guy,

01:31:42.000 listen, bro,

01:31:42.740 to go back in good favor.

01:31:43.920 Yo, the feds came to me

01:31:44.680 and said that there was

01:31:45.240 a threat on my left,

01:31:45.940 blah, blah, blah.

01:31:46.280 You know,

01:31:46.900 even though I know

01:31:47.900 we ain't seeing eye to eye,

01:31:48.900 whatever the fuck it may be,

01:31:50.060 you know,

01:31:50.500 that just goes to show

01:31:51.160 my loyalty.

01:31:51.820 So,

01:31:52.100 it could backfire

01:31:52.840 on you as well,

01:31:53.520 but it's a calculated risk.

01:31:58.260 Cuff was undaunted

01:31:59.420 by the threat.

01:32:03.100 Though the preacher

01:32:03.800 was tightening

01:32:04.380 his grip on his men,

01:32:06.180 investigators still needed

01:32:07.420 to get evidence

01:32:08.160 of the crimes

01:32:08.860 the crew committed

01:32:09.540 to support

01:32:10.420 the racketeering organization.

01:32:18.420 As more buyers

01:32:19.420 and sellers

01:32:19.920 were arrested,

01:32:21.380 some agreed to cooperate,

01:32:23.000 helping to outline

01:32:23.800 the group in detail,

01:32:24.980 according to

01:32:25.460 Detective Villain Flynn.

01:32:27.800 We obtained

01:32:28.600 the informants

01:32:29.720 through

01:32:30.200 narcotics investigations,

01:32:32.900 arrests made

01:32:33.460 by the 3-2 precinct

01:32:36.040 and the 3-2

01:32:36.700 detective squad.

01:32:38.300 So,

01:32:38.660 this is huge.

01:32:39.540 So,

01:32:39.660 basically what they're

01:32:40.500 able to do is,

01:32:41.580 right,

01:32:42.320 this is the importance,

01:32:43.260 guys,

01:32:43.440 right here.

01:32:43.800 I'm going to break it down

01:32:44.340 for y'all why it's so important

01:32:45.320 to have task force officers

01:32:46.280 and to have local police

01:32:47.360 involved in your task force,

01:32:48.720 especially when you're

01:32:49.240 investigating street crime.

01:32:50.480 So,

01:32:51.040 the 3-2 precinct

01:32:52.120 is in Harlem.

01:32:53.160 They're arresting these guys

01:32:54.300 all day,

01:32:55.120 every day,

01:32:55.600 you know,

01:32:55.840 whether it's for

01:32:56.560 something stupid

01:32:57.680 like running a red light

01:32:59.180 or not paying tickets

01:33:00.700 all the way up to

01:33:01.680 drug trafficking,

01:33:02.480 maybe a firearms possession,

01:33:03.420 whatever.

01:33:04.000 The state catches these guys

01:33:04.980 a lot of the times.

01:33:06.240 They'll have them identified.

01:33:07.300 They'll know who they are.

01:33:08.020 Yo,

01:33:08.120 this guy's a part

01:33:08.720 of the preacher crew.

01:33:09.380 Yo,

01:33:09.500 this guy's a part

01:33:10.020 of this,

01:33:10.300 blah,

01:33:10.400 blah,

01:33:10.520 blah.

01:33:10.820 So,

01:33:11.160 what do they do?

01:33:11.760 They go ahead

01:33:12.340 and they tell guys

01:33:13.980 in the 3-2 precinct

01:33:14.980 that work with the FBI,

01:33:16.300 yo,

01:33:16.820 we picked up this guy

01:33:17.540 and he's part

01:33:17.840 of the preacher crew,

01:33:18.380 you may want to come

01:33:18.900 in and talk to him.

01:33:19.900 And then they're able

01:33:20.440 to kind of come in,

01:33:21.600 interview that person,

01:33:22.320 they got charges

01:33:22.820 against him,

01:33:23.480 hey,

01:33:23.660 you want to cooperate,

01:33:24.420 blah,

01:33:24.480 blah,

01:33:24.560 blah,

01:33:24.820 that person might flip

01:33:25.920 or they're able

01:33:26.660 to document

01:33:27.260 that this member

01:33:28.240 of the crew

01:33:28.740 was selling drugs.

01:33:30.000 Guess what?

01:33:30.420 That is considered

01:33:31.420 a racketeering offense,

01:33:33.220 okay?

01:33:33.660 So,

01:33:34.040 they're able to use

01:33:34.820 that to build

01:33:36.040 a racketeering case

01:33:37.240 against the organization

01:33:37.960 as a whole.

01:33:38.640 As we spoke about before,

01:33:40.100 racketeering cases,

01:33:40.900 guys,

01:33:41.100 RICO cases,

01:33:41.820 are built upon

01:33:43.120 organizations,

01:33:44.200 not necessarily

01:33:44.860 individuals.

01:33:45.900 Individuals make up

01:33:46.720 the organizations,

01:33:47.480 however,

01:33:47.720 they target

01:33:48.640 the organization

01:33:49.380 as a whole,

01:33:50.420 okay?

01:33:53.880 Through information

01:33:54.900 they developed

01:33:55.540 and informants

01:33:56.140 they developed

01:33:56.780 because of arrest,

01:33:59.300 information was compiled

01:34:02.020 which built a case

01:34:03.100 against the preacher crew.

01:34:04.680 Bam.

01:34:05.760 And I explain

01:34:06.600 how they typically do it.

01:34:07.340 Unfortunately,

01:34:08.380 no one had information

01:34:09.500 on the Donnell Porter murder.

01:34:14.040 But one arrested crew member

01:34:16.580 offered details

01:34:17.420 of another murder

01:34:18.340 committed by the crew

01:34:19.300 hoping for leniency.

01:34:22.220 He said they decided

01:34:23.540 they didn't want to pay

01:34:24.520 for a shipment of drugs.

01:34:27.660 They told the supplier

01:34:28.980 that a young woman

01:34:29.840 had stolen them

01:34:30.660 and that they would

01:34:31.400 take care of them.

01:34:32.740 Oh, shit.

01:34:39.660 She was a single mother

01:34:41.000 who sometimes worked

01:34:41.940 as a courier

01:34:42.540 for the crew.

01:34:45.400 And this was common,

01:34:46.420 guys.

01:34:46.660 Couriers, right?

01:34:47.520 Like I told you all before,

01:34:48.360 runners,

01:34:48.900 they use women

01:34:49.540 a lot of the times

01:34:50.180 because women

01:34:50.600 are less likely

01:34:51.620 to get searched

01:34:52.240 to stop their frist.

01:34:53.780 So women a lot of times

01:34:55.060 carry money or drugs

01:34:55.920 for the organization.

01:34:56.980 So this is common.

01:34:57.600 So what they did was

01:34:58.200 they basically told

01:34:58.940 the drug organization,

01:35:00.440 probably some Colombians

01:35:01.280 or some shit,

01:35:02.080 yo,

01:35:02.500 we don't have the dope

01:35:03.460 because this chick

01:35:04.260 fucking stole it.

01:35:05.540 You know,

01:35:06.360 even though they did get dope.

01:35:07.580 And what they're going to do

01:35:08.400 is they're going to go ahead

01:35:09.080 and kill this girl

01:35:09.700 instead of paying

01:35:10.160 for the drugs

01:35:10.660 that they were given

01:35:11.700 on consignment

01:35:12.300 more than likely.

01:35:13.340 Okay?

01:35:13.560 And when you get drugs

01:35:14.120 on consignment,

01:35:14.640 you typically either

01:35:15.700 get them for free

01:35:16.460 or you get them

01:35:17.280 for a portion,

01:35:18.180 right?

01:35:18.320 Maybe half up front,

01:35:19.180 half up after you sell,

01:35:20.140 whatever it is.

01:35:20.920 So there was some arrangement

01:35:21.980 when they got the drugs

01:35:22.720 up front for a lower cost,

01:35:24.240 if not for free.

01:35:24.940 They went ahead and lied

01:35:27.000 and said,

01:35:27.320 yo,

01:35:27.820 this girl stole the drugs.

01:35:29.080 We lost them.

01:35:30.160 Well,

01:35:30.440 obviously the drug traffickers

01:35:32.060 that fronted you the drugs

01:35:33.440 typically probably in the 80s

01:35:34.540 is going to be some Colombians

01:35:35.340 in New York City

01:35:37.720 because they ran the drug trade

01:35:38.700 in the 80s and the 90s

01:35:39.860 in New York City,

01:35:41.220 the main suppliers.

01:35:42.980 They're like,

01:35:43.400 oh,

01:35:43.540 well,

01:35:43.660 you got to do something.

01:35:44.440 And they're like,

01:35:44.680 oh,

01:35:44.740 no,

01:35:44.860 don't worry,

01:35:45.220 bro.

01:35:45.320 We're going to kill her.

01:35:45.920 And then they,

01:35:46.500 you know,

01:35:46.620 you kill them

01:35:47.080 and then you show proof

01:35:47.980 to the organization.

01:35:48.660 You know,

01:35:48.740 we killed them,

01:35:49.280 blah,

01:35:49.320 blah,

01:35:49.400 blah.

01:35:49.980 You know,

01:35:50.240 I know we weren't able

01:35:50.960 to get the drugs back,

01:35:51.660 but we killed the person,

01:35:52.440 blah,

01:35:52.540 blah,

01:35:52.620 blah.

01:35:52.940 And they're doing this

01:35:53.800 to avoid paying,

01:35:55.100 right,

01:35:55.900 for the dope that they got.

01:36:03.380 They brought her

01:36:04.020 to a Harlem apartment,

01:36:05.440 telling her they wanted her

01:36:06.300 to hear a record

01:36:07.040 they had produced.

01:36:11.400 Grimy.

01:36:17.800 She hadn't stolen any drugs.

01:36:20.240 That didn't matter

01:36:24.640 to the crew.

01:36:30.980 The informant explained

01:36:32.320 how they cleaned up

01:36:33.200 the crime scene,

01:36:34.180 then dumped the body

01:36:35.480 in an abandoned building.

01:36:37.720 Just like the other guy.

01:36:38.880 He couldn't remember

01:36:39.480 exactly which building it was.

01:36:48.400 In August 1996,

01:36:50.240 after more than five years

01:36:51.760 of meticulous investigation,

01:36:54.080 the U.S. Attorney's Office

01:36:55.260 of the Southern District

01:36:56.280 of New York

01:36:56.880 decided they had enough

01:36:58.620 for indictments

01:36:59.380 and arrests

01:36:59.920 on federal RICO charges.

01:37:01.980 Oh, shit.

01:37:02.660 The first indictment

01:37:06.080 was against Clarence

01:37:07.000 Preacher Heatley

01:37:07.780 and John Cuff.

01:37:11.700 The indictment

01:37:12.460 was kept sealed.

01:37:17.440 Okay,

01:37:17.940 so what does it mean

01:37:18.620 when they seal

01:37:19.080 an indictment?

01:37:19.620 It means that they

01:37:20.200 filed it

01:37:21.120 and then they sealed it

01:37:22.320 until they go ahead

01:37:24.080 and get the guys arrested.

01:37:25.040 You know,

01:37:25.200 when they say,

01:37:25.720 hey,

01:37:26.020 you know,

01:37:26.660 indictment was unsealed

01:37:28.260 today in federal district court.

01:37:29.400 That means that

01:37:30.500 they unseal it

01:37:31.280 after the suspects

01:37:32.280 are caught and arrested.

01:37:34.780 If word got out

01:37:35.840 to the Preacher,

01:37:36.680 he might disappear forever.

01:37:38.920 So they seal him.

01:37:41.140 Investigators

01:37:41.660 staked out

01:37:42.360 Preacher's Harlem headquarters.

01:37:43.680 They hoped news

01:37:49.060 of the indictments

01:37:49.800 hadn't been leaked

01:37:50.580 and that if they found him,

01:37:52.600 they could arrest him

01:37:53.420 without a fight.

01:37:56.740 They knew Preacher

01:37:57.840 was surrounded

01:37:58.440 by armed men

01:37:59.580 willing to kill

01:38:00.840 at his command.

01:38:06.640 In late 1996,

01:38:08.740 the C-11 squad

01:38:09.660 was ready to arrest

01:38:10.640 Clarence Preacher Heatley.

01:38:14.500 No one had seen him

01:38:15.660 in days.

01:38:20.940 On August 12th,

01:38:22.220 he emerged

01:38:22.740 from his headquarters building.

01:38:25.460 Detectives made sure

01:38:26.400 he was alone,

01:38:27.380 then moved in.

01:38:28.260 Preacher,

01:38:28.640 drop the phone,

01:38:29.460 drop the phone,

01:38:30.420 drop the phone,

01:38:31.100 let me see your hand.

01:38:32.100 Get on the car,

01:38:33.060 get on the car.

01:38:34.500 What day was that,

01:38:35.440 August 12th?

01:38:37.920 Detectives made sure

01:38:38.880 he was alone,

01:38:39.860 then moved in.

01:38:40.740 Preacher,

01:38:41.140 drop the phone,

01:38:41.960 drop the phone,

01:38:42.600 drop the phone,

01:38:43.540 let me see your hand.

01:38:44.360 Get on the car,

01:38:45.540 get on the car.

01:38:46.660 Get on the car.

01:38:47.720 Get on the car.

01:38:48.760 Get on the car.

01:38:49.220 As he was arrested,

01:38:50.540 the elusive gang leader

01:38:51.540 remained relaxed

01:38:52.460 and confident.

01:38:57.600 As soon as he was

01:38:58.740 in custody,

01:38:59.800 other teams arrested

01:39:00.740 his main lieutenant,

01:39:01.800 John Cuff.

01:39:02.380 two months later,

01:39:07.480 15 more Preacher

01:39:08.500 crew members

01:39:09.140 were in doubt.

01:39:12.600 Goddamn,

01:39:13.080 17 defendants.

01:39:15.020 Let's see here.

01:39:16.540 Actually,

01:39:17.020 19 defendants in total.

01:39:18.120 I'm looking at the case

01:39:18.780 right now here.

01:39:19.520 I'll show it to you guys

01:39:20.080 here in a second.

01:39:20.520 Arrest teams prepared

01:39:22.960 for simultaneous tape

01:39:24.200 damage.

01:39:27.200 They had to strike fast,

01:39:29.040 full force,

01:39:29.900 to arrest gang members

01:39:30.960 safely.

01:39:33.760 Detective Vinnie Flynn

01:39:34.980 and other C-11

01:39:35.940 investigators developed

01:39:37.080 more cooperating witnesses

01:39:38.540 among the arrested

01:39:39.440 crew members.

01:39:41.460 Once people

01:39:42.540 were arrested

01:39:43.460 and being prosecuted,

01:39:45.200 they agreed to cooperate

01:39:46.340 and they felt

01:39:49.200 that they were used

01:39:50.240 by the Preacher crew

01:39:51.340 and felt that

01:39:52.920 in some cases

01:39:53.960 if they didn't

01:39:55.260 participate,

01:39:56.340 they would have

01:39:56.700 been killed too.

01:39:57.900 So this was

01:39:59.000 their way out

01:40:00.480 of the Preacher crew

01:40:02.380 and from under

01:40:03.340 Clarence Heatley's

01:40:04.980 control.

01:40:08.640 Investigators learned

01:40:09.600 in which Harlem buildings

01:40:10.820 the crew dumped

01:40:11.500 some of their victims.

01:40:13.940 Oh, shit.

01:40:14.460 Finding physical evidence

01:40:16.880 was crucial

01:40:17.500 in order to prosecute

01:40:18.600 the Rico case.

01:40:22.460 One building

01:40:23.280 was a shell

01:40:23.940 partially collapsed

01:40:25.280 on the inside

01:40:26.060 further complicating

01:40:27.100 the retrieval.

01:40:29.840 After days

01:40:30.780 of excavating

01:40:31.500 tons of rubber,

01:40:33.020 a body was discovered.

01:40:34.640 That's huge, guys.

01:40:36.320 Because now

01:40:37.140 what they're able to do

01:40:38.080 is do what?

01:40:39.540 Corroborate

01:40:40.020 the informant's testimony,

01:40:41.680 right?

01:40:42.460 That, yo,

01:40:43.240 we put bodies

01:40:44.280 in these buildings

01:40:45.080 which what?

01:40:46.400 Independently corroborates

01:40:47.360 what they said

01:40:47.920 and makes them

01:40:48.480 now credible, okay?

01:40:50.220 A lot of the times

01:40:51.060 you can't just go off

01:40:51.820 of what an informant

01:40:52.500 tells you

01:40:52.840 or what a cooperator

01:40:53.460 tells you.

01:40:54.100 You have to be able

01:40:54.760 to independently

01:40:55.360 corroborate what they

01:40:56.060 tell you and in this

01:40:56.960 case finding a body

01:40:57.920 is probably one of

01:40:59.700 the best ways

01:41:00.380 to corroborate

01:41:00.940 an informant's information.

01:41:05.100 Lab examiners

01:41:06.060 determined it was

01:41:06.820 the body of the

01:41:07.500 young mother

01:41:08.040 who had been killed

01:41:08.820 as a cover

01:41:09.380 for stolen drugs.

01:41:10.380 And they found

01:41:11.620 the young lady

01:41:12.180 that they killed

01:41:14.080 to try to not

01:41:14.660 pay the dues.

01:41:19.660 She had been shot

01:41:20.900 in an apartment

01:41:21.820 in an adjacent building.

01:41:28.520 Evidence response teams

01:41:29.960 checked the apartment.

01:41:34.640 That's the apartment

01:41:35.880 where they kept

01:41:36.480 the malich head

01:41:37.340 and in the refrigerator

01:41:38.760 there was a lot of blood

01:41:40.320 still left in the apartment

01:41:41.300 and inside the refrigerator

01:41:42.380 there was malich blood

01:41:44.160 where they kept his head.

01:41:46.960 They were able

01:41:47.280 to trace that

01:41:49.320 at the lab.

01:41:50.220 Bam.

01:41:50.660 So they were able

01:41:51.240 to find

01:41:51.540 two different

01:41:53.240 informants

01:41:54.000 testimony information

01:41:56.120 independently corroborated

01:41:57.880 through finding

01:41:58.380 the bodies

01:41:58.980 in the apartment

01:42:00.240 and the head

01:42:01.440 of one of the

01:42:03.060 preacher crew members

01:42:04.420 in the fridge

01:42:05.640 as told by the informant.

01:42:07.340 Malik and several others

01:42:10.780 had been killed

01:42:11.380 in the basement

01:42:11.960 of the preacher's headquarters.

01:42:16.060 Crime scene technicians

01:42:17.360 processed the basement.

01:42:21.600 Arrested crew members

01:42:22.640 said preacher

01:42:23.220 had them scrubbed

01:42:24.000 the place

01:42:24.340 with boric acid

01:42:25.180 after each killing.

01:42:29.080 Most of the basement

01:42:30.180 was clean.

01:42:33.420 But technicians

01:42:34.360 were able to recover

01:42:35.380 traces of blood

01:42:36.280 on the windows

01:42:37.020 and on the saw blade

01:42:38.440 that had been used

01:42:39.120 to dismember Malik.

01:42:40.420 Oh wow.

01:42:43.940 That blue light

01:42:44.880 tells a whole different story man.

01:42:47.000 But the investigation

01:42:48.140 was not over.

01:42:50.440 The abduction

01:42:51.360 and murder

01:42:51.880 of young Donnell Porter

01:42:53.120 was still unsolved.

01:42:54.340 Good morning gentlemen.

01:42:57.080 Good morning gentlemen.

01:42:57.640 Have a seat.

01:42:59.040 Answers about his death

01:43:00.160 finally came

01:43:00.960 from an unlikely source.

01:43:10.680 An assistant district attorney

01:43:12.400 convinced the boys

01:43:13.280 of the preacher crew member

01:43:14.640 John Appleport

01:43:15.680 to come into town.

01:43:17.640 Bam.

01:43:18.120 The uncle that I told you

01:43:18.920 all about before.

01:43:19.660 Okay.

01:43:21.540 This is

01:43:22.340 Donnell Porter's

01:43:24.080 uncle

01:43:24.520 aka Rich Porter's

01:43:25.820 uncle as well.

01:43:30.200 He was one of the crew's

01:43:33.000 main players

01:43:33.660 left on the street

01:43:34.540 and had been labeled

01:43:35.520 a snitch.

01:43:36.880 Two attempts

01:43:37.360 had been made

01:43:37.820 on his life.

01:43:40.120 The DA suggested

01:43:40.940 that Porter cooperate

01:43:41.920 to earn protection

01:43:42.920 in prison.

01:43:45.260 He confessed

01:43:45.940 to several murders

01:43:46.820 and revealed

01:43:47.780 what happened

01:43:48.340 to his nephew

01:43:49.020 Donnell.

01:43:51.840 According to

01:43:52.600 Sergeant James Maher

01:43:53.660 the kidnapping

01:43:54.620 was prompted

01:43:55.200 by jealousy

01:43:55.940 and greed.

01:43:57.780 Bam.

01:43:58.100 The underlying

01:43:58.720 factor

01:43:59.320 with Johnny Porter

01:44:00.500 Johnny Apples

01:44:01.540 with the kidnapping

01:44:02.900 was when he came

01:44:03.900 home from prison

01:44:04.560 Richie Porter

01:44:05.220 his nephew

01:44:06.160 was this big

01:44:07.240 Harlem drug dealer.

01:44:08.740 He was getting paid.

01:44:09.640 Richie Porter

01:44:10.040 used to wear

01:44:10.480 a lot of gold

01:44:11.280 used to really like

01:44:12.140 flashy cars.

01:44:13.680 As you guys saw

01:44:14.260 from the photos

01:44:14.720 I showed you before

01:44:15.500 you know

01:44:15.980 Rich Porter

01:44:16.760 was doing it

01:44:17.300 in Harlem

01:44:17.580 for real.

01:44:18.300 He was making

01:44:18.660 a lot of money

01:44:19.300 and he wasn't

01:44:20.380 giving any

01:44:20.800 to Johnny Porter

01:44:21.480 and Johnny Porter

01:44:22.440 felt he was owed

01:44:23.320 this and he decided

01:44:24.460 to take it

01:44:25.060 and the way

01:44:25.880 he took it

01:44:26.740 is he snatched

01:44:27.580 the kid.

01:44:29.120 Porter said

01:44:29.620 the preacher

01:44:30.040 agreed to the

01:44:30.800 kidnapping.

01:44:32.600 He sent one

01:44:33.440 of his janitors

01:44:34.120 Malik to help.

01:44:36.980 They believed

01:44:37.840 Richard Porter

01:44:38.500 would pay anything

01:44:39.280 to get his

01:44:39.800 brother back.

01:44:40.440 they kept

01:44:48.120 the boy

01:44:48.460 in a basement

01:44:48.980 where no one

01:44:49.580 would hear it.

01:44:52.760 They cut off

01:44:53.580 his finger

01:44:54.040 and recorded

01:44:54.600 the boy's

01:44:55.120 pleas for help

01:44:55.780 to prove

01:44:56.260 to his family

01:44:56.900 they were serious.

01:45:02.820 Apple and Preacher

01:45:03.720 hoped for $500,000

01:45:05.300 enough to set

01:45:06.680 Apple up

01:45:07.160 in his own

01:45:07.620 drug trade

01:45:08.220 and enough

01:45:08.800 to cripple

01:45:09.360 Richard Porter.

01:45:12.760 When Richard

01:45:13.560 couldn't come up

01:45:14.240 with that amount

01:45:14.760 of cash

01:45:15.280 they lowered it

01:45:16.200 to $350,000.

01:45:21.700 Then the

01:45:22.480 unexpected happened.

01:45:27.380 Preacher

01:45:27.940 and Apple

01:45:28.400 learned that

01:45:28.900 Richard Porter

01:45:29.580 was murdered.

01:45:34.360 There'd be

01:45:35.060 no ransom.

01:45:37.620 Preacher

01:45:39.840 Heatley

01:45:40.160 later told

01:45:40.780 Special Agent

01:45:41.420 Joe Walsh

01:45:42.040 about his

01:45:42.420 decision.

01:45:44.760 Preacher

01:45:45.100 sat right

01:45:45.520 down in a room

01:45:46.140 and told me

01:45:47.520 exactly what

01:45:48.060 happened.

01:45:49.160 You know

01:45:49.440 he looked me

01:45:50.840 right in the eye

01:45:51.240 and said

01:45:51.500 you know

01:45:51.720 I couldn't

01:45:52.000 let that boy

01:45:52.460 live

01:45:52.740 after what

01:45:54.320 had happened.

01:45:56.160 Damn.

01:46:01.300 John Porter

01:46:02.060 insisted

01:46:02.540 that it was

01:46:03.040 Malik

01:46:03.380 who actually

01:46:03.920 did the

01:46:04.380 killing.

01:46:06.620 Malik

01:46:07.060 was later

01:46:07.500 killed

01:46:07.840 and dismembered

01:46:08.540 at the

01:46:08.760 preacher's

01:46:09.100 command.

01:46:15.740 John Porter

01:46:16.680 was sentenced

01:46:17.200 to natural

01:46:17.760 life.

01:46:22.700 Because of

01:46:23.480 the evidence

01:46:23.920 collected by

01:46:24.540 the C-11

01:46:25.100 squad

01:46:25.600 each member

01:46:26.800 of the

01:46:27.060 preacher

01:46:27.320 went to

01:46:27.900 prison.

01:46:28.180 their leader

01:46:32.840 Clarence

01:46:33.320 Preacher

01:46:33.620 Heatley

01:46:34.040 pled guilty

01:46:34.900 to federal

01:46:35.420 racketeering

01:46:36.040 charges

01:46:36.460 that included

01:46:37.160 drug trafficking,

01:46:38.220 assault,

01:46:38.780 and murder.

01:46:41.440 He was

01:46:42.220 sentenced to

01:46:42.680 life with

01:46:43.100 no chance

01:46:43.620 of parole.

01:46:45.280 Damn.

01:46:46.720 He and his

01:46:47.840 crew will

01:46:48.620 never again

01:46:49.300 terrorize the

01:46:50.660 streets of

01:46:51.180 Harlem.

01:46:51.500 It's

01:46:53.660 estimated that

01:46:54.440 they're

01:46:54.760 responsible

01:46:55.460 for

01:46:55.820 approximately

01:46:56.360 45 murders

01:46:57.380 that we're

01:46:57.740 aware of.

01:46:59.000 Damn.

01:47:00.060 Numerous

01:47:00.480 robberies.

01:47:01.540 If you

01:47:01.820 add the

01:47:02.180 extortion in,

01:47:04.340 these people

01:47:05.520 were a

01:47:06.440 decade-long

01:47:07.260 or better

01:47:07.620 crime wave

01:47:08.280 than themselves.

01:47:09.060 They were

01:47:09.400 just amazing,

01:47:10.820 the devastation

01:47:11.640 that they

01:47:11.960 caused in

01:47:13.260 these communities.

01:47:13.900 That changed

01:47:17.180 when the C-11

01:47:17.920 squad dismantled

01:47:19.020 the Preacher

01:47:19.440 Crew forever.

01:47:22.700 Bam.

01:47:23.220 Since the

01:47:23.720 case was

01:47:24.100 closed,

01:47:25.200 Harlem has

01:47:26.040 seen a

01:47:26.440 rebirth.

01:47:28.540 Harlem

01:47:28.900 today,

01:47:29.280 the 32nd

01:47:29.900 Precinct,

01:47:30.860 is running

01:47:31.340 somewhere between

01:47:32.060 15 and 20

01:47:33.020 homicides a

01:47:33.680 year,

01:47:34.300 down from

01:47:35.000 the 70s.

01:47:36.160 Damn.

01:47:36.580 Down from

01:47:36.800 70 a year

01:47:37.520 in the late

01:47:37.900 80s during

01:47:38.480 the crack

01:47:38.900 cocaine

01:47:39.780 division.

01:47:42.280 I think

01:47:43.040 we accomplished

01:47:43.560 quite a bit

01:47:44.060 with this

01:47:44.420 case.

01:47:46.740 It went

01:47:47.340 from 70

01:47:47.980 murders a

01:47:49.500 year to

01:47:50.020 down to

01:47:50.500 15 per

01:47:51.220 year after

01:47:52.700 getting rid

01:47:53.160 of the

01:47:53.360 Preacher

01:47:53.600 Crew,

01:47:53.940 man.

01:47:54.240 Holy

01:47:54.600 man.

01:47:57.920 Oh,

01:47:58.440 man.

01:47:58.920 So,

01:47:59.360 that was

01:47:59.760 crazy,

01:48:00.200 man.

01:48:00.560 And here

01:48:01.980 we go.

01:48:02.320 I'll show you

01:48:02.540 guys the

01:48:02.840 actual criminal

01:48:03.420 case here.

01:48:04.080 As you guys

01:48:04.380 can see,

01:48:05.120 here's John

01:48:05.700 Porter,

01:48:06.260 right,

01:48:07.040 known as

01:48:07.780 Apple or

01:48:08.560 Apps.

01:48:09.380 He was the

01:48:10.300 sixth defendant

01:48:10.840 in this

01:48:11.180 thing.

01:48:11.840 Here's the

01:48:12.220 actual case,

01:48:13.100 guys.

01:48:13.320 As you can

01:48:13.560 see here,

01:48:13.900 Clarence

01:48:14.200 Heatley,

01:48:14.500 a.k.a.

01:48:14.900 Preacher,

01:48:15.780 right?

01:48:17.460 What was

01:48:17.920 that?

01:48:18.560 Oh,

01:48:19.040 make it

01:48:19.280 bigger.

01:48:19.620 Okay.

01:48:19.940 Yeah.

01:48:21.640 Yeah,

01:48:22.040 as you guys

01:48:22.400 can see,

01:48:23.040 it is huge

01:48:24.740 here,

01:48:25.260 like,

01:48:25.520 racketeering,

01:48:26.140 murder,

01:48:26.600 all these

01:48:26.960 charges that

01:48:27.380 he got hit,

01:48:28.320 you know,

01:48:29.020 like,

01:48:29.360 look at this,

01:48:29.760 racketeering,

01:48:30.200 murder,

01:48:30.500 racketeering,

01:48:30.920 murder,

01:48:31.160 racketeering,

01:48:31.580 murder,

01:48:31.820 kidnapping,

01:48:32.200 kidnapping,

01:48:32.720 like,

01:48:33.120 you know,

01:48:33.780 interference with

01:48:34.340 commerce by

01:48:34.900 threat of

01:48:35.260 violence.

01:48:35.680 That's extortion.

01:48:36.340 You know what I'm

01:48:36.640 saying?

01:48:36.780 Like,

01:48:37.000 God damn,

01:48:38.060 you know,

01:48:38.440 violent crime,

01:48:39.060 machine gun,

01:48:39.740 drugs,

01:48:40.180 like,

01:48:41.000 so,

01:48:41.240 and there was

01:48:41.600 19 different

01:48:42.180 defendants on

01:48:42.740 this,

01:48:42.980 you know,

01:48:43.220 so,

01:48:43.760 some counts

01:48:44.520 were dismissed.

01:48:45.500 Here's the

01:48:45.800 second one,

01:48:46.160 John Cuff,

01:48:46.700 also known as

01:48:47.300 Jack,

01:48:48.260 right?

01:48:48.820 So,

01:48:49.220 all these

01:48:49.940 different defendants,

01:48:50.880 man,

01:48:51.160 you guys go through

01:48:52.020 here.

01:48:52.280 So,

01:48:52.420 how many

01:48:52.600 defendants do

01:48:53.140 we got?

01:48:53.400 We're at

01:48:53.620 defendant 10

01:48:54.180 here.

01:48:54.940 They ended

01:48:55.140 up being 19

01:48:55.900 on this case,

01:48:56.960 okay?

01:48:59.820 Right,

01:49:00.280 yeah,

01:49:00.420 19.

01:49:01.140 Gween,

01:49:01.740 Ganeen Good

01:49:02.700 was the last

01:49:03.380 one here.

01:49:04.320 And then here

01:49:04.820 is the

01:49:05.080 prosecutor.

01:49:05.580 The prosecutor

01:49:06.000 was Kaylin

01:49:07.160 Elizabeth Lasky,

01:49:09.280 okay?

01:49:10.280 Here's a

01:49:10.860 sealed indictment

01:49:11.480 on July 15,

01:49:12.440 1996.

01:49:13.820 Arrest on

01:49:14.740 August 12th.

01:49:16.340 That's why I was

01:49:16.760 looking at the

01:49:17.200 date.

01:49:18.020 That's probably

01:49:18.360 when they

01:49:18.580 picked up

01:49:18.900 Preacher,

01:49:19.820 okay?

01:49:20.600 And then,

01:49:21.040 you know,

01:49:22.200 first appearance

01:49:22.660 as to

01:49:22.940 Clarence Heatley,

01:49:23.620 aka Preacher,

01:49:24.440 John Cuff held.

01:49:25.720 Defendant

01:49:25.980 Clarence Heatley

01:49:26.500 pressed with

01:49:28.740 attorney Andrew

01:49:29.580 Shapiro.

01:49:30.120 He was present

01:49:30.860 at USA

01:49:31.680 McCarthy,

01:49:32.220 detained.

01:49:34.040 Defendant

01:49:34.520 John Cuff

01:49:35.040 present with

01:49:36.000 attorney CGA,

01:49:37.020 which is

01:49:37.260 basically,

01:49:37.660 CGA is

01:49:41.480 typically,

01:49:41.880 it means it's

01:49:42.280 a free

01:49:42.720 attorney,

01:49:43.260 okay?

01:49:43.740 Appointed

01:49:44.080 by the

01:49:44.380 court.

01:49:45.280 And then he

01:49:45.900 was detained

01:49:46.300 as well before

01:49:47.020 Magistrate

01:49:47.380 Andrew J.

01:49:48.000 Peck.

01:49:48.620 Okay,

01:49:48.940 this is on

01:49:49.360 December 16th,

01:49:50.580 entered December

01:49:51.300 16th,

01:49:51.860 1996,

01:49:52.560 but they were

01:49:53.000 arrested on

01:49:53.380 the 13th or

01:49:54.720 the 12th,

01:49:55.380 probably,

01:49:55.700 and then they

01:49:55.940 got shown the

01:49:56.560 next day in

01:49:57.060 front of the

01:49:57.760 judge.

01:49:58.760 And yeah,

01:49:59.260 man,

01:49:59.420 it's kind of

01:49:59.760 cool to see

01:50:00.280 like,

01:50:01.160 you know,

01:50:01.440 from 1996,

01:50:02.440 man,

01:50:02.620 this is damn

01:50:03.100 near,

01:50:03.380 what,

01:50:04.400 30 years

01:50:04.900 ago?

01:50:06.360 30,

01:50:06.820 yeah,

01:50:07.300 almost 30

01:50:07.840 years ago,

01:50:08.280 man.

01:50:09.320 So,

01:50:10.320 and then you

01:50:10.820 can go through,

01:50:11.440 it's a very

01:50:11.780 complex case,

01:50:12.460 look at all

01:50:12.720 these things

01:50:13.140 they filed.

01:50:13.840 It's a lot.

01:50:14.640 Yeah.

01:50:15.340 Oh wait,

01:50:15.580 you can't click

01:50:16.060 on it though.

01:50:16.460 Yeah,

01:50:16.740 you can't,

01:50:17.200 which I wish

01:50:17.700 because it's

01:50:18.000 old ass case,

01:50:18.740 so they don't

01:50:19.020 have any of

01:50:19.400 the stuff here.

01:50:19.840 I wish I could

01:50:20.160 look at this

01:50:20.620 sealed document,

01:50:22.000 but I can't.

01:50:23.080 There's no way

01:50:23.560 it's like,

01:50:24.000 it's probably

01:50:25.260 like boxed up

01:50:25.860 and like,

01:50:26.420 yeah,

01:50:26.820 you'd have to

01:50:27.500 probably go down

01:50:28.220 to the Southern

01:50:28.660 District of New

01:50:29.120 York and like,

01:50:29.760 give them the

01:50:30.180 case number

01:50:30.620 and then they'd

01:50:31.100 pull it out

01:50:31.480 for you.

01:50:32.820 But,

01:50:32.940 you know,

01:50:34.540 yeah,

01:50:34.760 this is all

01:50:35.340 old shit.

01:50:36.580 Modified term

01:50:37.160 of imprisonment

01:50:37.820 and appoint

01:50:38.180 counsel,

01:50:39.080 you know,

01:50:39.860 Raymond Jackson,

01:50:40.840 that was one

01:50:41.100 of the defendants.

01:50:42.420 So,

01:50:42.940 you know,

01:50:46.460 some of the

01:50:47.180 defendants on

01:50:47.620 the case,

01:50:47.960 there were 19

01:50:48.360 defendants.

01:50:49.020 And then here,

01:50:50.340 if you guys want

01:50:50.780 to see what

01:50:51.140 your boy is

01:50:51.600 doing now,

01:50:53.340 Heatley,

01:50:54.040 he's 69 years

01:50:55.060 old,

01:50:55.780 he's at life

01:50:56.380 and he's at

01:50:56.720 FCI Talladega,

01:50:58.440 which is a

01:51:00.100 media security

01:51:00.640 federal correctional

01:51:01.340 institute in

01:51:01.740 an adjacent

01:51:02.920 minimum security

01:51:03.700 satellite camp.

01:51:05.000 And this is

01:51:05.820 in Alabama.

01:51:09.040 That's where he

01:51:09.700 is right now.

01:51:10.220 That's where

01:51:10.620 Clarence Heatley

01:51:11.480 is at this

01:51:12.180 moment.

01:51:12.840 And let's see

01:51:13.160 where his

01:51:13.380 lieutenant is,

01:51:14.080 John Cuff.

01:51:15.860 Let's see.

01:51:16.460 here,

01:51:16.760 Cuff.

01:51:19.920 Hold on.

01:51:27.340 He's not,

01:51:27.740 he's not,

01:51:28.940 let's hit a

01:51:29.540 control F

01:51:30.060 real quick.

01:51:37.340 Uncuffed

01:51:37.820 the,

01:51:38.080 let me try

01:51:38.720 a male age.

01:51:40.740 I don't know

01:51:41.100 how old he is.

01:51:42.900 He might have

01:51:43.300 died.

01:51:44.060 Okay,

01:51:44.440 because yeah,

01:51:44.740 I can't find him

01:51:45.220 in the Bureau

01:51:45.600 of Prisons

01:51:45.940 anymore.

01:51:46.760 Let's try

01:51:47.140 Porter.

01:51:50.000 John Porter

01:51:50.680 is his name.

01:51:54.380 He died too

01:51:55.140 probably.

01:51:57.360 Because they're

01:51:57.840 not in the Bureau

01:51:58.280 of Prisons and

01:51:58.800 they both got,

01:51:59.400 and we know both

01:52:00.180 of them got life

01:52:00.760 pretty much.

01:52:01.880 So,

01:52:02.680 uh,

01:52:03.180 yeah.

01:52:05.720 Yeah,

01:52:05.940 but like,

01:52:06.220 how are you

01:52:06.440 going to like

01:52:06.760 set up

01:52:07.060 your nephew?

01:52:07.760 That's crazy,

01:52:08.400 right?

01:52:09.000 Like,

01:52:09.320 that's just

01:52:09.580 out of

01:52:10.180 jealousy

01:52:10.540 because he

01:52:12.300 came out of

01:52:12.740 prison and,

01:52:13.380 uh,

01:52:13.920 Rich Porter

01:52:14.320 was killing it

01:52:14.900 and he was

01:52:15.240 mad and he

01:52:15.740 knew that

01:52:16.160 if he had

01:52:17.080 his nephew

01:52:17.480 kidnapped,

01:52:18.480 that Rich

01:52:19.220 would have

01:52:19.440 done anything

01:52:19.960 to,

01:52:20.640 um,

01:52:21.340 to get him

01:52:21.800 back.

01:52:21.960 He was mad

01:52:27.580 because he

01:52:27.980 had those

01:52:28.340 gold rings.

01:52:29.720 So,

01:52:30.080 anyway,

01:52:31.240 guys,

01:52:31.820 hope you

01:52:32.080 enjoyed that

01:52:32.480 one,

01:52:32.740 man.

01:52:33.000 That one

01:52:33.340 was a great

01:52:33.700 one.

01:52:33.860 What's your

01:52:34.060 thoughts on

01:52:34.360 that,

01:52:34.580 Christina?

01:52:34.800 That was

01:52:34.960 the first

01:52:35.180 time you

01:52:35.420 watched the

01:52:35.920 full episode

01:52:36.460 on that.

01:52:37.680 What's your

01:52:38.140 thoughts?

01:52:38.820 I liked it.

01:52:39.360 I just think

01:52:39.780 it's messed

01:52:40.300 up.

01:52:41.120 Yeah.

01:52:41.460 Kind of

01:52:42.320 sad,

01:52:42.580 right?

01:52:42.960 He was

01:52:43.220 such a

01:52:43.560 kid.

01:52:44.060 Yeah.

01:52:44.760 And it's

01:52:45.220 kind of

01:52:45.420 crazy how

01:52:45.940 Pain and

01:52:46.480 Fool didn't

01:52:46.880 pay more

01:52:47.260 attention to

01:52:47.780 the preacher

01:52:48.300 crew and

01:52:48.780 everything.

01:52:49.140 I guess I

01:52:49.500 could see why

01:52:50.040 it would have

01:52:50.380 hurt the

01:52:50.880 movie because

01:52:51.440 it was

01:52:52.340 really the

01:52:52.640 preacher crew

01:52:53.060 that were

01:52:53.300 running

01:52:53.480 everything,

01:52:54.200 Clarence

01:52:54.640 Heatley and

01:52:54.920 his crew.

01:52:56.200 And here

01:52:56.700 he is real

01:52:57.060 quick for

01:52:57.400 y'all.

01:52:58.180 I'll show

01:52:58.640 you guys a

01:52:58.940 quick little

01:52:59.280 photo of

01:52:59.640 this guy.

01:53:00.480 He didn't

01:53:00.680 look like

01:53:01.720 LL Cooja,

01:53:02.200 I'll tell you

01:53:02.440 that.

01:53:04.820 Clarence

01:53:05.180 Heatley,

01:53:05.440 here he is,

01:53:06.640 aka the

01:53:10.140 preacher here.

01:53:10.740 I'll share

01:53:10.980 the screen

01:53:11.320 with y'all

01:53:11.600 real fast

01:53:12.040 and show

01:53:12.380 you.

01:53:14.900 Here he

01:53:15.420 is.

01:53:20.380 Clarence

01:53:23.460 Heatley,

01:53:23.800 biography,

01:53:24.320 life interesting

01:53:24.760 to the

01:53:25.000 preacher

01:53:25.200 crew,

01:53:25.640 right?

01:53:26.840 But that's

01:53:27.500 him.

01:53:28.580 Strange

01:53:29.000 looking

01:53:29.200 individual.

01:53:33.620 Yeah,

01:53:34.180 this is him

01:53:34.540 right here.

01:53:37.940 So,

01:53:38.340 so,

01:53:38.460 yeah,

01:53:44.180 anyway,

01:53:44.900 so it

01:53:45.920 does not

01:53:46.200 look like

01:53:46.560 LL Cooja,

01:53:47.120 guys,

01:53:47.540 is the

01:53:48.020 answer here.

01:53:48.560 You know,

01:53:51.140 but you

01:53:51.360 know,

01:53:51.520 when they

01:53:51.760 do those

01:53:52.060 reenactments,

01:53:52.580 they do the

01:53:52.920 best that they

01:53:53.340 can.

01:53:54.040 But anyway,

01:53:54.340 guys,

01:53:54.520 hope you guys

01:53:54.900 enjoyed that

01:53:55.300 episode,

01:53:55.700 man.

01:53:56.480 Like the

01:53:56.960 video,

01:53:57.620 subscribe to

01:53:58.040 the channel.

01:53:58.960 Thanks to

01:53:59.380 Christina for

01:53:59.820 helping me out

01:54:00.220 with this one.

01:54:00.680 I knew you

01:54:00.940 guys are

01:54:01.160 going to

01:54:01.320 enjoy this

01:54:01.660 one.

01:54:02.300 And I'll

01:54:02.540 catch you

01:54:02.840 guys probably

01:54:03.920 on Sunday.

01:54:05.040 I don't know

01:54:05.340 what I'll be

01:54:05.640 covering yet.

01:54:06.560 We'll catch

01:54:06.860 you guys

01:54:07.140 there.

01:54:08.120 Leave you

01:54:08.500 guys with

01:54:09.060 the cool

01:54:09.480 new intro

01:54:10.760 slash outro.

01:54:11.800 We got some

01:54:12.260 edits coming to

01:54:12.800 it very soon,

01:54:13.300 guys.

01:54:13.900 But yeah,

01:54:14.600 man,

01:54:14.900 I'll check

01:54:15.120 you guys

01:54:15.320 out.

01:54:15.840 Peace.

01:54:19.620 I was a

01:54:20.200 special agent

01:54:20.560 with Homeland

01:54:20.920 Security Investigations.

01:54:21.620 Okay,

01:54:21.780 guys,

01:54:22.140 HSI.

01:54:23.000 The cases

01:54:23.420 that I did

01:54:23.860 mostly were

01:54:24.440 human smuggling

01:54:25.480 and drug

01:54:27.520 trafficking.

01:54:29.260 This is the

01:54:30.220 arrest paperwork.

01:54:31.300 Okay,

01:54:31.500 so he turned

01:54:31.840 himself in on

01:54:32.460 February 13,

01:54:33.160 2019.

01:54:33.980 This charge

01:54:34.400 carries a death

01:54:34.980 penalty.

01:54:35.400 Florida is one

01:54:35.760 of the states

01:54:36.180 that still has

01:54:37.060 the death

01:54:37.580 penalty,

01:54:38.020 guys.

01:54:41.440 Six nine

01:54:42.040 ran with

01:54:42.380 these two

01:54:42.760 guys.

01:54:43.320 Billy Seiko

01:54:43.900 introduced

01:54:44.280 six nine

01:54:44.900 to your

01:54:45.320 boy,

01:54:45.680 Kifano

01:54:45.960 Jordan,

01:54:46.540 aka Shoddy.

01:54:47.580 No one else

01:54:48.240 has these

01:54:48.840 documents,

01:54:49.420 by the way.

01:54:49.760 I've been

01:54:49.900 looking everywhere.

01:54:50.840 1812.

01:54:51.480 So he was

01:54:52.020 in this bad

01:54:52.500 boy.

01:54:52.880 We're gonna

01:54:53.140 go over

01:54:53.700 his path.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - October 16, 2022

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