Haz Al-Din And TruthTeller Debate: Bolsheviks, Communism, And Zionism! (Part 2⧸2)
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1 hour and 36 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we have a debate between Hazza and truth. We discuss the reasons behind the debate and the structure of the debate. We have 5 main topics and 5 main questions to be debated on each topic and we go back and forth on those.
Transcript
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So we're just waiting for this thing to populate.
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If you guys want to listen to this space on your phone, I will go ahead and give you a link right now.
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the space as well um so yeah welcome to truth teller and welcome to haz man
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yeah i just want to welcome truth and has as well onto the space has uh thanks for joining us has
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been from the acp party um and truth teller uh here to debate has uh is your mic working are you
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ready to bet yep uh thank you so much for having me on i've been excited to have this debate for
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a long time and uh you know thank you both for hosting it should be good i appreciate that has
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and truth are you doing well are you ready for the debate and is your mic loud and clear
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still mic check how is it it's teeny bit low unless it's me is it anyway you can just increase it
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slightly or is it me i'm okay i'm speaking right into the mic right now how is it now
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okay it must be me it must be me can you hear him clearly all right can you hear me okay yeah i can
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i can hear you fine i just turned up the volume on my end um uh because i'm on my computer can you
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hear me oh yeah i can hear you fine i can hear him i turned up uh i turned the volume on my end
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uh so man if you're on a computer maybe use the master volume uh thing if you have that extension
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on google but that's what i did oh yeah no i realized what it was it's because haz's mic is
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actually extremely loud and then when it's in comparison to yours and truth then there's it looks
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uh pale in comparison so that's what it is it is it isn't it actually his mic
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so appreciate everybody coming on guys do retweet reshare the space um and then this is a
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conversation that's been had been had on social media a lot candace owens mentioned it a lot of
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big profiles mentioned it and i think it's really good debate first of all hazard dean and truth
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are well versed in the topic i think it's going to be a fire debate and it's an important point uh to
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learn the structure of the debate and myron's going to be timing it is going to be that both sides are
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going to start off with a five minute introduction uh they're going to present their argument and
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their position on the bolchevitz and the holdemar and then we're going to have a scenario where
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they'll be we've got five main topics and we'll go back and forth on those um two minutes each side
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and we'll probably do two to three rounds but we'll and then we'll ask both sides if they want to
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continue the rounds on that specific topic or not um and then what we'll have is two additional
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modes within the debate the first mode is going to be and both by the both sides don't know about
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this so they both are in the exact same situation and i give credit to both of them they're literally
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what this was the easiest debate to put together in the history of debates our message has within
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like 10 seconds he was like yes let's do it our message truth and then he said straight away let's do
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it our message has and he straight away agreed to the time and then same with truth he then messaged
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and then agreed to the time immediately literally was very very smooth so big credit to both guys that
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they were ready for this debate so then what we'll do is the second form about it they're both in the
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exact same situation the messages i sent were exactly the same to both sides so they're both aware of
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the same thing at the same time and the second side part of the debate if has and truth are okay with
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it is going to be where both sides are able to propose a question to the other side and have a
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back and forth dialogue on that hopefully that works out and then the last side and this is where the
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audience comes in put your questions in the tweet in the nest um because if there is questions for
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example you've got where you want both sides to speak about because obviously has aldeen comes from
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the communist perspective truth believes obviously that communism is a jewish construct and so
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therefore there may be certain aspects that haven't been covered in the debate and you're like i really
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wanted these two to debate or have a questions on this issue so that'll be the third part so is that okay
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with you truth and has sure yeah sure brilliant brilliant um really excited for the debate so guys do
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retweet reshare the space i'm gonna just put it on my i'm gonna just put it on my pin and then we'll
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start marin are you ready with the timer yeah so um the way it's gonna go guys is uh the first two
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rounds well it's actually the first round but each of you is gonna get a five minute preamble to state
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your position if you guys could just articulate where you stand on the bolshevik revolution i think
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the first topic is gonna be um for this first five minute is uh that that the bolshevik revolution was run by
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jews is that the first topic or just the overall preamble yeah the first five minutes will just be
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an overall preamble uh from both sides we'll go let truth go first okay and then we'll go to has
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um because he'll give his contentions and his positions and then we'll reverse it at the end
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um but yeah the first so just general topic is gonna yeah general preamble and then the first topic
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after the first five minute introduction is going to be world were the bolsheviks jewish okay so um cool
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so truth will go first truth i got a timer here what i'll do is when you have 10 seconds left i'll
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say 10 seconds does that work for both of you has that way i interrupt you guys as least as possible
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uh could you repeat that my bad i didn't catch that no problem uh when you guys each have your
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round so for this first preamble is five minutes when you guys have 10 seconds left and i'll do this
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every time for every round i'll tell you 10 seconds or i'll say 10 oh yeah i got it that way you know to
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wrap up you got 10 seconds to go and if you one of you do goes over what i'll do is um i'll make
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sure i add that time to the next person let's say truth goes over by 10 seconds i will give you an
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extra 10 seconds house cool yeah for sure for sure all right awesome uh if there's anything else
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truth are you good yeah i just want to make sure you guys can hear me okay i can hear you perfectly
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man excellent cool i'm ready all right man uh uh i will start talking now and i'll start the timer
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sure yeah thank you first of all thanks to the host co-host for moderating the debate thank you
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to haas for showing up as well and for everyone that's here listening appreciate it thank you for
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taking the time on sunday night all right so i'm of the contention that the judeo-bolsheviks were
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primarily of jewish descent heritage and many of them may have even tried to hide their heritage but
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in fact communism in and of itself is a jewish construct nobody has to take my word for it
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i like to use well jewish sources who claim the same thing so i'll start with uh rabbi harry watten
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who says the communism soul the communist soul is the soul of judaism hence it follows that as in the
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russian revolution the triumph of communism was the triumph of judaism the jewish elements provide the
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driving forces for communism that was dr oscar levy and then some may call it communism but i call it
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what it is judaism that's rabbi stephen s weiss for those who have a little bit of understanding of
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the talmud it's quite clear that communism is essentially a manifestation of what judaism wants
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which is to create the slave state where the jews would be on top in charge of all the means of
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production and then the slaves being the gentiles would be the ones working within the gulags and
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also within factories under slave labor type conditions this has always been the intention
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contention of what communism was so then we ask well who founded this who founded communism who drafted
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the main manifestos we keep we have to cite then first moses s he wrote the book actually and before
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that he was he was expressing his ideas and he met with both frederick engels carl marx his real name
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moses mordecai levy after he changed it so he met with them and discussed ideas for both zionism
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and communism communism its definition is quite clear it's the violent overthrow of the establishment
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so that those who they claim are proletariats the factory workers will then take control and be in
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charge of the means of production so moses has of course wrote his book and he also collaborated
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with both carl marx and frederick engels where he then drafted the communist manifesto and later the
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das kapital which would serve as the main pretext to then go about the invasions later on that would
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take place because it's an ideology a socio-political economic ideology it isn't based on anything peaceful
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or democratic or through election again it's done through violent overthrow as we as we've seen
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throughout history with respect to how jews operate they've never been once to operate by the letter
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of the law they like creating their own legal systems their own ideologies their own manifestos
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to then go about achieving it fast forwarding a bit to 1897 we had the establishment of the jewish
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bunlink and at the same time also the zionist manifesto was released how convenient and then they
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slowly went about trying to push their way through and even prior to that they were pushing their way
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through they actually assassinated alexander ii who was the czar of russia um in the early 1860s even
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before that actually he liberated all the serfs in 1861 now let's talk about pre czar or actually
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during the czar's reign and what the conditions were like for russia well in fact they had some of the
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best working conditions that were established before world war one the workers first of all the so-called
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workers peasant serfs whatever you want to call them they were more like first-class citizens they had
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private property rights they had their own property in fact they could bear arms they were they all had
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secure guaranteed jobs the russian economy economy was a top four economy with only a two percent tax
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rate a minimal debt because they had their own state-run treasury where they were issuing their own notes
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and so they weren't having to worry about these serious banksters through the rotshots were still
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taking over slowly all of the major countries around the world they first started when they
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took what they took over the bank in amsterdam in 1609 then they moved up to the uk in 1694
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and they would get up to the u.s in 1913 and many other banks in between their objective was to get
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to russia which is the first thing they did when they took power as they installed their bank and this way
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took control of the russian monetary policy and also the faith of the gentiles now this beef between
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russia ukraine goes back many centuries and the jews they don't forget it was always their contention
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intention objective to want to take back the land they lost during the time of kazaria when they had
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their empire between the 7th and 10th centuries before it got disbanded by count vladimir they never forget
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they always try they made attempts communism was their way to get it done a violent way because they
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were going up against you know monumental uh an amazing and incredible russian czar regime
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that was a benevolent leader who just sought to give back to his people and give provide a level
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playing field so that everybody could have a chance to promotion everybody could have a shot at the
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russian dream which is a steady job a family to have a spiritual fulfillment because it wasn't based on
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an atheist system there was no degeneracy there was no abortion there was heterosexual values there
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was christian values there was a strong sense of identity and a very high standard of living for
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all that's time that's time that's time yeah my bad i didn't uh i had myself fucking muted
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i appreciate that uh truth check 10 seconds and then we'll give has extra 10 seconds
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and then we'll proceed to discuss how things failed essentially under commerce and essentially classified
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1991 i'll get into more details during the rounds thank you for coming out
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hold on chat oh that's what it is okay okay i'll do it uh one second let me just get the clock up so
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so i'm hazel dean the executive chairman of the american communist party and as the
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executive chairman of an actual communist party i am amazed at this colorful description our resident
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communist and marxist scholar truth teller has given about communism now as somebody who studied
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marxism for since i was 12 or 13 years old uh i i'm amazed at this new scholarly interpretation
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where it's all about enslaving the goyim and having jewish people on top
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it's the first time i'm hearing about this and i'm sure that as the debate progresses we're going
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to find that truth teller is extremely well read and extremely literate regarding the classics of the
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canon of marxist and marxist leninist literature i'm sure he's read many marxist books i'm sure he's
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read the writings of carl marx and lenin and mao and stalin and others and i can't wait to have a
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scholarly exchange with him about his beautiful and extremely articulate understanding and description
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of marxism now to be actually rather frank i'm just going to go ahead and say that it's pretty
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baffling because every single claim that he made every single claim he had just made within the five
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minute time he was allotted is comprehensively completely and without ambiguity a total lie and
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fabrication from the claim that the russian empire had no debt when it was in fact held by the balls
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by french banks and it was in fact the bolsheviks cancellation of all of the foreign debt which was
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owned by the private banking cartels abroad that actually got them invaded by the entire world
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and besieged and embargoed even and sabotaged at every turn because these capitalists basically had
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all of their property confiscated and their debts completely liquidated to his claim that under the
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beautiful paradise of czarist russia there was no degeneracy when you had registered child prostitutes
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as young as 11 years old who were basically roaming the streets of russia's major cities with the
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permission of the state you're talking about a state where maybe at best by world war one a quarter of
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the population could read and write abominably low literacy rates where people were living in huts and
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the overwhelming majority of the country were living in the backwoods as peasants barely teetering on the
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edge if any famine came they would just basically die in mass numbers and nobody would do anything
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about it because nobody cared and they just considered it a humanitarian tragedy it's precisely such
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conditions the rapacious capitalist exploitation of these peasants stealing their land and then
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preying on them as wage laborers the robbing of the peasants of their land the sending them off to
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die in a vain war against an overwhelmingly more industrialized germany where russia was so backward
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it couldn't even sustain itself and defend itself against foreign aggressors these are the conditions
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that led to the success of the bolshevik party and regarding the formation of the russian revolutionary
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movement to begin with it's true that the czar alexander ii abolished serfdom and that's great
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but following the abolition of serfdom all that happened was that the russian peasantry were placed
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under debt obligations by creditors and basically became de facto serfs again the ones that didn't
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went on to be uh trafficked and and and shoved into these factories with abominable working conditions
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where they were treated like cattle they had no rights whatsoever they were living under the most
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depraved and miserable conditions imaginable and these were the circumstances that led to the
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widespread proliferation of marxist ideas among the underground revolutionary intelligentsia
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marxism has always formed in response to a fundamental oppression and exploitation of the people they say
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that how bad the communist regimes were and how terrible communism was but they never actually go into
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the weeds and the facts of how terrible and awful it was before and how much communism actually improved
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things relative to where they were coming from and uh moreover i i i mean i don't even know where to
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begin every single thing he said doesn't make any sense when you scrutinize it from the basic
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perspective of historical fact how could communism be about jewish people being on top and all the
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gentiles enslaved when the majority of communist states throughout history did not have any significant
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jewish presence we're talking about china we're talking about the dprk we're talking about cuba we're
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talking about today's venezuela not necessarily communist but definitely marxist and socialist we're
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talking about you know across africa and south yemen the overwhelming majority of communist uh political
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construction was happening outside of the west outside of places that had significant jewish populations
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and this has led a lot of these tweakers who are just pulling things out of their ass lying about
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the bolsheviks lying about communism to say that kim jong-un is a jew and that xi jinping is a jew and
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at a certain point people have to wake up and realize how far are we going to take this complete
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and i can demonstrate that demonstrate that pretty easily appreciate that has thank you so much that
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was exactly five minutes and 15 seconds and i can take it from here the software i was using was
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i had to figure out where to turn it off when it rings but i got it um each round from this point
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forward is going to be how long suleyman two minutes and just before we get on to the next round guys if
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you can do me a favor retweet reshare the space we have 1200 people on youtube a myron's youtube channel
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we have 900 on myron's rumble channel and i believe we have almost 1200 on this twitter space
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uh so retweet reshare the space a huge space a huge debate i think everyone's been talking about it
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it's going to be fire so retweet reshare the space so we're going to go on to the first round
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the first round as myron said is going to be two minutes long uh we'll do multiple rounds and then
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once we think that both sides maybe want to and then we'll speak and we'll discuss with this both
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sides but we're minimum going to do three rounds each and then if we think that there's a need for
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another round we will and it'll be two minutes long and the first uh topic is um were the bolsheviks
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jewish let me pass it back over to myron to uh speak and then conduct it a bit sure no problem okay
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so the first topic is were the bolsheviks uh jewish i guess i'll turn it over to true teller again
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i got two minutes on the clock once you start speaking truth i'll uh start i'll hit the timer and
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then again i'll give you a 10 second thing uh sorry about that first mishap with uh with the
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software but i got it figured out now so uh once you start going dude i'll uh i'll start the timer
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sure yeah thank you yes the bolsheviks were primarily jewish not all jewish and you don't
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need to take my word for it take the word of vladimir putin who stated that around 85 percent of the
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soviet regime was made up of jews why don't you take the word of alexander's social initiative who
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actually served in the red army unlike anyone here and he was also a prisoner in the gulag and he said
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the majority of the soviet regime was also jewish and he broke it down he actually went up to about
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90 95 percent and said it was jewish and i can name names of course the likes of swerdlov or
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yegoda yeshov beria kaganovich and just so many more names naftali frankl and was of course funded by
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jews it was not just funded by jews it was created by jews as i mentioned it was used to create the
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manifestos i've already mentioned karl marx and of course moses hess it was used to finance it from
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max warberg of course jacob schiff and armin hammer ashberg and it was used to carry it out
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under the leadership of trotsky and also lenin who is a quarter jewish at the very least
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and uh swerdlov and many of the other militants terrorists who came and invaded russia and of
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course the first law they instituted was an anti-semitism law to ensure they would be protected
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and they could use their law because they cancel the laws of the sars regime to essentially destroy
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any type of dissent because this was not a tolerant society out to help anybody it was just out to help
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themselves and acid strip the country which is the first thing they did when they stole the gold
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in addition to that they carved out a jewish oblige for themselves they were also building
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settlements for themselves that's what kaganovich was doing on the outskirts of ukraine they were
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just stealing land and stealing resources while they were killing off slaves within the gulags and
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forcing them to work for meals while they owned nothing because communism entails only nothing and
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making no profit zero the complete antithesis to what was going on in the sars under the sars rule where
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he allowed for everyone to own property have property rights bear arms have rights have insurance
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and also literacy rates he mentioned the literacy over 56 by 1897 and they were on their way to
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being a hundred percent within 20 years because they were building 10 000 schools a year so baffles
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my mind that somebody would lie about literacy rates in russia or lie about the fact they were famous
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scientists within russia they were doing all kinds of incredible things from building trains planes
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i'll add an extra five uh for for haas um haas whenever you're ready i'll get it going
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sure the literacy rates were absolutely nothing close to 56 percent for the overall population of
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the russian empire that's just blatantly a lie just like all the other things you just said in your uh
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in your little spiel there so there was never a point in which the bolshevik leadership however you
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looked at it was majority jewish and there was only five percent of the bolshevik party
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uh as a total were jewish in general now there were some prominent jewish personalities in the
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in the bolshevik party and the question you have to ask is what are the causes of that if the causes of
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that are the consequence of some kind of in-group jewish orchestrated conspiracy to assert their
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interest at the expense of gentiles why did these jewish members of the bolshevik leadership not act in
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unison why were they constantly forming uh on opposite sides of the debates on opposite sides of
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the power struggles for example zinoviev and kamenev uh fighting against trotsky in the 1920s
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uh for example yogoda a jew being the one who shot zinoviev and kamenev and overseer saw their
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executions why was it that and kaganovich who was stalin's right-hand man who himself was uh
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totally against these other jewish personalities so if we're going to go with the idea that this is
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mainly a jewish thing that these are all jews working together to assert their interests
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how do we explain the fact that they are constantly on the opposite sides of different factions
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within the soviet government and within the bolshevik party it doesn't have any explanatory
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value and it doesn't make any sense if we actually want to get into the weeds of why there was uh jewish
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presence at all in the first place in the early years we could get into that and i'd be happy to
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but any notion that it was coming from this uh in-group jewish orchestrated conspiracy is complete
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bullshit regarding foreign funding there's absolutely zero evidence whatsoever that there
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was any foreign funding for the bolshevik revolution in particular all sources demonstrate very clearly
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that all of the capitalists abroad who were hopeful about the february revolution as soon as the october
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revolution happened where they basically canceled all the foreign debt they completely uh rejected
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the revolutionary movement in russia and actually supported war efforts by capitalist governments to invade
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the uh uh the revolutionary russia and depose the soviet government so that's completely fabricated
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and uh completely made up that is time all right so i think you went about seven seconds over there
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it's fine um you guys kind of evened out from there uh uh do another i guess we'll do another one so that
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they can uh yeah yeah yeah at least two more yeah yeah for sure okay uh uh truth go ahead i got two minutes
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on o'clock when you're ready sure yeah thank you so it absolutely was foreign funded there's no way you
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can finance a 90 000 plus army coming from new york with bags of gold to be able to pay off mostly a
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mostly jewish army by trotsky by the way he was the one who created the uh the red army he was of course
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a jew nobody disputes that part at least with help from lenin stalin swerdlov many of the other leaders
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who would go on to massacre close to 100 million russians based on many different estimates from many
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different scholars it's not even really denied anymore that they killed a lot of people just because
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they could and the whole objective was again to acid strip the country because the first thing they
00:34:05.060
did was steal the gold there absolutely was a massive jewish presence i already cited alexander
00:34:09.540
solzhenitsyn no comment on that and he's a subject matter expert even putin said he respects him
00:34:14.800
even putin stated 85 of the leadership was jewish so did dimitri gordon a ukrainian journalist who's
00:34:21.840
jewish the top journalist in ukraine he even admitted based on all the research he's done people
00:34:26.040
should look him up he's a he's a very intelligent guy he said the leadership was primarily jewish as
00:34:30.520
well and it served for the main purpose again taking the assets from russia installing the bank
00:34:36.380
and getting back at the goy getting back at the slavs who karmark absolutely hated he called them
00:34:43.120
genetic trash and uh what's amusing to me is this foreign invasion that took place because none of
00:34:50.300
these most of these guys were not even native russian that showed up there why would anybody
00:34:54.080
defend defending their interest over the actual russians who were subject to the massacres that
00:34:59.520
would take place and let's look at who actually got killed the majority of the people that killed were
00:35:02.860
mainly orthodox christians their churches were destroyed over 200 000 priests and monks were killed
00:35:08.720
close to 54 000 were destroyed or turned into wheat silos because again there was a process of
00:35:14.240
collectivization that would lead to famines like the halotomir to slaughter people deliberately
00:35:18.680
by design now halotomir for those who don't know just means death by starvation it wasn't even the
00:35:23.620
first one they were doing all throughout the 20s because they could never figure out farming
00:35:26.660
all right is that it uh yeah no that yeah that's time now okay i never hear you say 10 seconds
00:35:33.380
i literally say it but you don't hear me because you're talking but oh sorry you know what i'll
00:35:37.440
i'll start sitting my own timer no no um i say it but then you just keep going and then i'll say
00:35:42.140
it again and then by then it's already 10 seconds but um all right uh haze you ready
00:35:53.360
so solzhenitsyn was a prolific liar and a complete bullshitter who betrayed his own motherland and
00:36:01.320
fabricated a bunch of claims i don't know why you're making it seem like anything he says
00:36:05.060
should be taken as fact there's no primary source evidence whatsoever that suggests
00:36:09.540
the outlandish and ridiculous claims he makes regarding how the revolutionary government was
00:36:13.680
funding its actual overwhelmingly russian army red army uh that was manned by the russian peasantry
00:36:20.620
they didn't need to fund it because they just seized the russians and peasants they seized all
00:36:25.000
the factories they seized all the energy they seized all the resources they seized all the wealth
00:36:29.040
they just took it that's what the revolution did and that's why the foreign capitalists
00:36:33.460
bankrolled the actual foreign invasion of russia which was actually led by global global capitalist
00:36:39.320
powers on behalf of the white movement to depose the revolutionary government to get back their
00:36:43.980
loans to get back their wealth and to get back uh for example royal dutch shell all of its oil was
00:36:49.340
simply taken by the soviet government uh because the russian empire's resources and oil it was all
00:36:54.760
owned by foreigners so this idea that they they needed somehow outside funding when all they had to do
00:37:00.280
is just mobilize the working class and the peasantry to just rise up and seize the wealth it's ridiculous
00:37:06.200
they didn't need any foreign funding they were a highly organized organization for decades i mean you
00:37:11.340
haven't even studied anything about how the bolsheviks were organized you don't know anything about their
00:37:15.380
origins you haven't even read any of lenin's works or writings you couldn't possibly understand what
00:37:19.760
they were motivated or compelled by you say that was all about jewish revenge against gentiles but have
00:37:24.940
you ever read a single word of lenin do you know anything about the actual ideology or the outlook
00:37:30.140
of marxism do you know anything about the debates and polemics and discussions that were happening
00:37:34.740
in the early uh revolutionary period within russia have you ever actually set yourself to the task
00:37:39.420
even trying to comprehend or understand marxism no you're just resorting to these crazy claims you
00:37:44.540
mentioned this one jewish rabbi who claims that communism is judaism i could give you like dozens of
00:37:50.700
more quotes by actual reputable christians by the way including the pope all right that was uh 10
00:37:56.980
seconds right there i'll do it that way since it'll be easier i said i said uh i said 10 seconds but i
00:38:02.520
don't think has heard me um so i'll unmute this space again and uh i'll turn it over the truth teller
00:38:07.820
because i think that's the easier way to go because i think some of you guys sometimes you guys
00:38:12.400
aren't hearing me when i say uh 10 seconds 10 seconds uh do you want me to do you want me to time it
00:38:16.980
because i think it is your mics getting over a bed by the their mics um that could be it too that
00:38:23.600
could be it too it's up to you if you want me if you want to do it yeah let me try this round and
00:38:27.340
then if it doesn't work then we'll do the mute thing sure no problem uh go ahead truth teller
00:38:31.900
whenever you're ready and still in mind you got it right i appreciate it go ahead truth to him and
00:38:37.400
start now sure yeah thank you so look nobody needs to take my word for it let's look at what some
00:38:44.280
historians said about russia under the czar's regime to see if it was so horrible let's look
00:38:48.400
at what william howard taft said he in fact said that the czar created an incredible and advanced
00:38:53.980
labor system that was a boon to the entire russian economy he was so impressed by it it was something
00:38:59.080
he wanted to bring back home and even though he was told personally to abrogate the treaty with
00:39:03.440
with russia that had been in place since 1832 for commerce and navigation he didn't want to do it
00:39:08.660
of course commerce still forced him to do it because american jews were putting pressure
00:39:11.900
to cease relationships with russia to try to isolate the country under the czar's regime
00:39:16.420
as part of the reason why they instigated world war one to begin with now again let's look at some
00:39:21.860
of what took place while these jews took power in the ussr i like to let action speak who cares what
00:39:26.860
the words are what lenin or stalin whoever said why would you institute an anti-semitism law the first
00:39:31.480
thing that you do if you're not in charge you obviously want to protect yourself as the ruling class
00:39:36.240
why would you be carving out a jewish oblast for yourself if you're not in charge i thought
00:39:40.660
communism was supposed to be based on egalitarianism and classless so why is a certain group being
00:39:45.840
protected and given its own property why is it that stalin supported this establishment of a
00:39:50.580
zionist state close to 1947 1948 when he voted in favor of creating israel and he also of course spoke
00:39:57.240
hebrew and he spoke yiddish as well he was married to rosa kaganovich kaganovich's sister and he had kids
00:40:02.960
with her of course and he was a no one's going to call him a devout jew by any means but he was of course
00:40:07.160
ethnically jewish himself and what these jews like to do the ones that came from russia essentially
00:40:11.280
is they like to hide their identity because they came a lot of them came from the pale settlements
00:40:15.640
where they were restricted whether they could do for works that would they pretend to convert over
00:40:19.420
to some kind of christian space so this way they could find other opportunities within russia but in
00:40:23.520
fact they remained jews crypto jews in fact so they absolutely were i'll take putin's word for it i'll
00:40:29.300
take socialism's word for it i'll take dmitry gordon's word for it that the majority of the
00:40:34.000
soviet regime was absolutely jewish because they benefited themselves time um brilliant um and
00:40:41.340
then has go ahead for your uh two minutes yep sure so here's the thing you're claiming that russia was
00:40:48.760
this paradise before communism one in four of every baby that was born died of infant mortality
00:40:54.140
that number was reduced by a quarter uh after the soviet industrialization and modernization efforts
00:41:01.100
so we're saying is a complete lie on that front now this idea that uh there was an anti-semitism
00:41:06.880
law is a complete fabrication just because you saw jpeg somewhere on twitter claiming it doesn't mean
00:41:11.020
it's true there was never a single law in the soviet legal code at any point in the history of the
00:41:15.780
soviet union which specifically outlined anti-semitism there was a general law against the spreading of
00:41:21.680
racial enmity in general so this applies to armenians aziris georgians and all the other minorities
00:41:27.880
nothing exclusively about anti-semitism whatsoever it's a complete lie in fabrication i'm willing to
00:41:33.320
go through the entire soviet legal code throughout the 1930s throughout the 20s throughout the 40s 50s
00:41:38.600
60s whatever you want and we can go through it one by one and you'll find there's absolutely nothing
00:41:43.140
now regarding this claim that the the jewish autonomous oblast means that jews were in power
00:41:47.740
what about all of the other small ethnic minorities not to mention all of the actual soviet republics for
00:41:54.320
georgians for armenians for aziris for ukraine for for bel for belarus for so many other nationalities
00:42:01.060
all the assrs for all of the sub sub ethnic groups and nationalities within the ssrs everyone was given
00:42:08.960
their own uh territory they they experimented briefly with the idea of giving the jews their own uh a blast
00:42:15.500
it wasn't even an assr it wasn't even an ssr uh somewhere deep in the far east like in siberia and it
00:42:21.700
wasn't even popular among them how does that how does that somehow explain that they're in power
00:42:26.300
that they're being given this small sliver of of very infertile inhospitable land all the way in
00:42:32.600
fucking siberia that this somehow proves they're in power doesn't even make any sense yeah sure
00:42:38.620
no sorry yeah 10 seconds oh yeah i mean that's all okay brilliant um so guys um hasn't truth you've
00:42:47.960
done three rounds on this topic do you want to do one or two more rounds or do you want to move on to
00:42:52.200
the next topic sure no we can keep going we want to do one more round on it at least yes okay cool um
00:42:58.780
let me okay i'm about to start the timer yeah go ahead truth sure yeah thank you uh it's cute that
00:43:07.240
he's uh concerned about the infant mortality rate under the czar while abortion was illegal on and off
00:43:13.000
during the karmist regime and they did 200 million abortions killing unborn babies what about that
00:43:19.380
did you know the birth rates under the czar's rule for about 30 years was an average of 10 kids
00:43:24.160
per woman nine to ten that came down to about two to three because well the ussr was constantly in
00:43:30.680
state of war essentially because they were a war raging expansionist state seeking to spread their
00:43:35.420
demonic ideology to other countries and so the birth rates came down considerably and they had a
00:43:40.160
population of roughly 160 million before 1917 they're only at around 144 million now explain that
00:43:47.100
because the population was decimated so hard by abortion by famine by the disease by of course
00:43:53.500
legalization of homosexuality lgbtq degeneracy filth usury and he tries to claim the words in debt
00:44:01.000
during the ussr of course they were in debt what about the land lease agreement from 1941 where they
00:44:05.240
took a billion dollars from america and they took 11 billion dollars more otherwise it would have never
00:44:08.880
had any chance in world war ii did you forget 20 million dollars from jacob schiff in 1917 and then
00:44:15.220
that obviously got paid back with the stolen gold you couldn't even figure out manufacturing or farming
00:44:19.380
or anything like that you needed help you signed a repello agreement with the germans you supposedly
00:44:23.180
hated so much so they could help you build infrastructure and then you sign up on a deal
00:44:26.520
with henry ford in 1929 because you couldn't figure out how to build cars tractors trucks or do any type
00:44:32.020
of farming all you knew how to do is collectivize based on the minimal that you were doing
00:44:35.780
because during the sars reign russia was considered the bread the world's bread garden because they
00:44:41.100
were exporting so much wheat oil barley rye etc i say look at the numbers and i posted all this stuff
00:44:46.220
i've got over 42 000 posted my name in many articles you can see that compared to what the communists were
00:44:51.920
under the sars reign nobody starved to death there were no mass famines so you can clearly see the
00:44:58.060
difference where when during one brain you've got thought collectivization process with the other
00:45:02.900
you're the world's garden basket and you're export you're a net exporter i appreciate that okay we're
00:45:09.000
gonna do one last round on this but it's oh no sorry has still has to go go ahead sorry one second
00:45:13.440
just give me two seconds okay yeah yeah lend lease was completely negligible it was all 85 percent of
00:45:18.740
it came after the decisive uh battles that actually turned the tide of the war already historians estimate
00:45:24.040
that it only shortened the war maybe by uh a few months actually so lend lease was completely
00:45:29.700
negligible it was about four percent of the supplies that they had used and it was old it wasn't even
00:45:34.440
used in time so that is complete nonsense it's one of the fucking russo phobic myths that are used by
00:45:39.940
nato and western countries today to downgrade the soviet effort during the war now the regarding the
00:45:45.780
problem of the demographic crisis people are having of kids well when you modernize and you industrialize
00:45:50.040
that that tends to be what happens it's happening in japan today it's happening in south korea it's even
00:45:54.680
happening in china it's a global crisis in general you can't blame communism specifically for that
00:45:59.820
india a very poor impoverished country had a huge explosive birth rate we know that very very poor
00:46:06.920
kind of really really backwards countries tend to have high high birth rates doesn't mean there's some
00:46:12.200
kind of advanced civilization this whole thing about the legalization of homosexuality is complete
00:46:17.040
bullshit they threw out the entire legal code in the early years of the revolution that didn't mean
00:46:21.220
they institutionalized or tolerated homosexuality was still being persecuted under common law so
00:46:26.240
that's another complete lie by the way rosa kaganovich never existed stalin never had a jewish
00:46:30.760
wife i don't know if i caught that last time the idea that there was usually under the soviet union is
00:46:34.920
laughable i mean there was not even any uh tolerance of of market relations until the nep but the idea of
00:46:40.980
usury when this central bank was nationalized and owned by the state it's impossible that there could be
00:46:46.240
any usury you want to know where there was usually under the czar the czar's regime first of all was
00:46:51.680
under the control of usurious powers abroad but usually was a widespread practice especially by kulaks
00:46:57.660
after the stolipin reforms who would prey on peasants in times of famine and and basically force them to
00:47:03.440
take out usurious loans in order to steal and gobble up their land which is also the tactic capitalists
00:47:07.800
were employing uh even before the stolipin reforms so it's complete nonsense there the czarist famines you
00:47:13.500
had one million people die in the 1890s vulga famine you had 1897 300 to 500 000 people die okay yeah i
00:47:21.060
can name more of a brilliant um yeah three seconds more so we'll give that to truth truth um concluding
00:47:27.260
remarks on this topic uh go ahead we'll do 90 seconds of concluding remarks um and then we'll move on to
00:47:33.960
the second topic uh so truth go ahead 90 obviously you'll have the extra three seconds will be 93 seconds
00:47:38.380
for you go ahead truth thank you so i always say judge on action actions who cares what anyone else
00:47:45.880
says or thinks and it's quite clear that russia was an industrialized country a top four economy
00:47:52.020
with low tax rates high gdp growing at 10 percent eight to 10 percent per year for 30 years before
00:47:59.300
world war one they weren't under any type of you dad their own in-house treasury there was and it was
00:48:04.260
imposing at best very low interest loans that nobody would you know wasn't subjecting anybody to type of
00:48:09.640
to like repossession of homes there were no market crashes for the most part of things were very stable
00:48:15.120
in fact you know what there wasn't during the restars reign there were no mass famines you weren't
00:48:19.780
killing people by the millions there was no holadomir from 1932 to 33 where they killed over 10 million
00:48:24.920
ukrainians belorussians and of course kazakhs by starving them to death that didn't happen
00:48:29.880
why were there 70 famines during the ussr if they were so advanced and with such a great ideology
00:48:34.620
why did communism end up failing by 1991 if it was supposed to be so successful why did they make so
00:48:39.680
many bad decisions like going into afghanistan and engaging in a 10-year uh stalled war that led to
00:48:45.480
just murder of death on both sides a lot of bad decisions they couldn't afford to finance their debt
00:48:50.480
anymore that they actually left communism with 100 billion dollars in debt they were saddled with that
00:48:55.500
because they were spending 50 percent of their revenue just on military so this way they could
00:49:00.060
go and invade other countries and spread their filthy demonic ideology so they could kill off
00:49:04.420
their governments in power and install their own rogue regimes and steal the resources of the land just as
00:49:10.480
the jewish banks were sponsoring them to do thank you perfect that's perfect timing and how's for your
00:49:15.960
concluding remarks on the first topic uh for 90 seconds go ahead right they had such a high military budget
00:49:21.640
because they were being besieged by the most powerful capitalist countries in the entire world
00:49:25.600
i mean untold tens of billions of dollars were being even more than that were being spent in a
00:49:30.400
concentrated effort by all the world's major capitalist powers including the most powerful in the united
00:49:35.540
states to destroy the soviet union and to destroy its ability to have any kind of international
00:49:40.540
relations so that's why they had to have such a high military budget they learned the lesson of the
00:49:44.820
nazi german invasion and they couldn't allow it to ever happen again they know that they were being
00:49:49.180
encircled and that at any given moment they were going to be completely toppled and destroyed by
00:49:53.640
foreign rapacious capitalist powers so ask yourself the question why did they need to defend themselves
00:49:58.760
so aggressively why was their system such a threat to the powers that be into the global system
00:50:03.700
that prevailed nobody seems to be asking these questions nobody seems to be asking the open and
00:50:09.060
obvious question of why are all of the countries today which are resisting the global system
00:50:13.220
mostly aligned at least having some connection to the communist tradition and communist history there's a
00:50:19.040
reason for these things the notion that under the czar that you didn't have usury you didn't have
00:50:23.580
debt it's a complete laughable lie everything he's claiming is completely pulled out of his ass the idea
00:50:28.500
10 million people died in the so-called holodomor a lie invented by the cia-backed uh uh organization
00:50:35.260
of ukrainian nationalists is also laughable when estimates put the death toll much much lower and due to
00:50:41.680
natural causes and after that famine there was never another one again except the one that was a
00:50:45.920
consequence of the world war ii so we can get into i'd love to get into the weeds of these so-called
00:50:50.900
statistics that he's getting for that because uh yeah okay go ahead yeah i'm wondering if that's
00:50:55.960
going to be the next topic but guys i appreciate has and truth that was the conclusion of the first
00:51:00.660
topic in the comment section who do you think won the first round uh which is were the bolshevich
00:51:07.800
jewish was it has al-din from the acp party or was it truth teller in the comments so let us know
00:51:13.760
in addition to that remember the last round it is going to be um questions from the audience where
00:51:19.820
has and truth will debate so do put your topic questions or points you want them to debate on
00:51:26.880
in the comment section and finally do retweet reshare the space i believe we have 1 300 people
00:51:32.660
on here at about two and a half to three thousand on youtube and rumble so a large number of people
00:51:37.460
are listening to this debate myron anything before we jump onto the second round and you can introduce
00:51:42.200
the second round yeah you guys can hear me now right because i i don't know what happened i had
00:51:45.660
myself unmuted but for some odd reason it didn't work i unmuted on twitter and on uh my roadcaster but
00:51:51.700
it's fine they can hear you the the issue is that you know when uh has and truth are speaking and then
00:51:57.240
you speak they can't hear you yeah yeah i noticed that because i was like looking back again and i saw that i
00:52:01.720
was unmuted and it wasn't working so that's fine no biggie um i'll just be here i'm running a poll on
00:52:06.320
my chat as well right now with who they think won uh the part one but yeah we'll go right into the
00:52:11.380
second topic if you can introduce it to the people i appreciate that myron yeah the second topic funny
00:52:16.740
enough they have just touched on it has and uh truth and i will get has to go first on this topic
00:52:22.520
and it is gonna be and because i am interested in his contention and position on this is um the second
00:52:28.780
question is the hold of more real and was it a genocide of christians hazeldine uh he will we'll
00:52:35.880
do uh we'll do two minutes yeah again i think we'll keep it to two minutes go ahead has you've
00:52:40.000
got two minutes uh do provide your position the holy more was a term that was invented around the
00:52:46.280
70s and 80s by the ukrainian diaspora that were nazi collaborators and fled to the west where they were
00:52:51.580
funded and backed by us aid and the cia to basically make it seem like the soviets had their own
00:52:57.600
equivalent of the german nazi holocaust to put them on the same level and to demonize the soviet
00:53:02.720
union in this way it's a fabrication created by ukrainian nationalists to call it a genocide
00:53:07.620
now the idea that it was somehow targeting orthodox christians because christians were
00:53:12.280
were victims is nonsense because the majority of the population at the time were christian so it
00:53:17.540
follows that the majority of the victims were also christian but that doesn't mean that all the
00:53:21.120
victims were christian there were jewish victims of that same famine it was a famine it wasn't
00:53:25.900
unintentional it wasn't deliberate and the soviet government in 1933 when they received word of it
00:53:30.800
did everything in their power to relieve that famine and divert foreign exports back to uh give it a
00:53:37.240
famine relief giving far more uh in terms of famine relief than they did for foreign experts which were
00:53:43.220
just as dire and necessary because here's why they needed to export grain in order to get mechanization
00:53:48.300
and modernization of agriculture with industrial equipment because that's the only thing that actually
00:53:52.560
puts an end to famines in the long term that's why following stalin's industrialization you never
00:53:58.200
saw famines of this scale ever happen in the history of russia ever again because they managed
00:54:03.480
to industrialize and modernize their economy there was one that happened after world war ii as a
00:54:07.900
consequence of the devastation of the nazis on soviet industry but you can hardly blame the communist
00:54:12.440
system for that they lost about 27 to 30 million people now reputable historians never ever put the
00:54:20.260
famine's death toll at these ridiculous numbers that he's talking about he claimed that 100 million
00:54:25.080
people died uh according to the because of the regime's intentional policies that's completely
00:54:30.600
ridiculous i mean even the authors of the black book of communism who have since admitted that they
00:54:35.080
were bullshitting put the total which was china and every other communist state at 100 million the
00:54:40.860
idea that it happened in the soviet union alone it's just complete nonsense it's ridiculous
00:54:45.320
all right um has was two minutes enough or do you want another minute to provide your thesis or your
00:54:51.440
position yeah that would help another minute would help brilliant let's do because then it's the start
00:54:57.060
so people understand the foundational basis yeah go ahead let's go for another minute and then we'll
00:55:00.340
do give true three yeah so the causes of the famine of 32 were the result of a poor harvest due to
00:55:06.960
environmental factors and it affected many other regions not just ukraine it affected turkey romania
00:55:12.900
bulgaria and it affected other parts of the soviet union like kazakhstan it was the result of a poor
00:55:18.300
harvest now this was very common it was a constant never-ending cycle for a thousand years in russia
00:55:23.800
where because of a drought because of environmental conditions there would be famine and everyone would
00:55:28.140
just starve and nobody would give a shit i mentioned the millions and millions who died of hunger and
00:55:33.200
famine under the czar nobody cares about that they all considered it a humanitarian catastrophe so when it
00:55:38.620
happened under the soviet government before they were able to industrialize and therefore put
00:55:42.840
an end to the famines in the long term everyone's blaming communism for famine but famine was the
00:55:49.040
norm before communism it was the soviet industrialization efforts that actually put an end to famine in the
00:55:55.060
long term i appreciate that has um truth um you're gonna get three minutes uh so do um go ahead
00:56:02.620
thank you so this is typical jewish behavior blaming the victims oh it's natural causes disease it just
00:56:09.800
happened no it was deliberate there were so many famines between 1917 and 1991 the holodomir was
00:56:14.980
just one of the bigger ones and again in terms of acknowledgement well guess what the ukrainian
00:56:19.300
courts already acknowledged it and found posthumously posthumously both kaganovich poshiev and others who
00:56:25.780
were working on their stalin of guilty of the holodomir famine so they went through all the records and the
00:56:30.620
deaths that took place realized it was by starvation it was by spread of disease because there was
00:56:35.000
malnutrition taking place deliberately because of the process of collectivization because the economy
00:56:39.400
was weak they weren't producing enough they went from not producing enough to being net exporters where
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they weren't net exporters under the sars machine because once again these people couldn't figure out
00:56:47.820
farming because they were grossly incompetent jews don't know how to do farming they're not good at
00:56:51.600
manual labor that's why they always have to outsource and get help from the likes of henry ford and also the
00:56:56.020
germans both through the rapallo treaty and also even after world war ii when they brought in over 200 german
00:57:01.700
scientists to help them figure out their aeronautical division so they could build fighter jets
00:57:05.560
so you see it's because of gross negligence it's still it was still it was not just negligence it
00:57:10.000
was a deliberate systematic effort to kill people by starvation because that's the cheapest way to kill
00:57:15.200
you don't even have to use a bullet and when they weren't killing people with starvation they were using
00:57:19.220
gas chambers it was in 1935 in fact that davidovich berg invented the first mobile gas chamber where he was
00:57:24.320
connecting his exhaust pipe to the chamber and killing off russians that were within that chamber as they
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were being transferred to the gulags and if they survived they'd end up getting tortured if one
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example of a torture routine they used they would tie up the russian slaves and literally saw them in
00:57:38.580
half because that's how demonic these individuals are just as they wiped out the czar's entire family
00:57:43.920
him his wife his five kids and even his dogs they wiped them all out there's no due process because
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due process never existed under the czar under the uh the soviet regime because these people are violent
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criminal judeo-sadists okay they worship satan and for them when they when they commit these types
00:58:00.580
of sacrifices it's towards their god which is the devil because that's who they ultimately worship
00:58:06.160
now let's look at some other proof of the hwadamir why don't we look at the statements of arthur kessler
00:58:10.040
he was a jewish journalist he came in as an outsider in 1932 and witnessed for himself the horrific
00:58:15.380
starvations that he saw on the trains that was going from town to town within what's modern-day ukraine
00:58:19.880
belarus and other cities why don't we also look at the testimony of gareth jones he was a welsh
00:58:25.140
journalist he came in three times in the soviet union between 1931 and 33 and he posted 20 separate
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articles talking about the hwadamir that took place and the famine that was imposed on these poor
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victims victims of vicious jewish behavior to steal the the fundamentals of food oat wheat barley and
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leave them with nothing to eat because that's how vicious these people actually are so there's absolutely
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no reason why i mean both so but we have both ukrainian courts that have acknowledged it took
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place and even put guilty pleas on those who are in charge of it and even the russian courts have
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acknowledged it as well so there's simply no disputing we've got eyewitness testimony and we've got the
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courts uh guilty pleas thank you thank you for that uh truth guys i in terms of the first round we have
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got the tweet in the nest who won the first round were the bolshevists jewish has al-din and truth the
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percentages are very similar at the moment hazards on 52 truths on 48 there's been 300 votes so the
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tweet is in the nest vote how you please uh in terms of round one there's 1400 people listening to
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the space and i believe about 3000 on youtube and rumble do retweet and reshare the space the way you
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do it is you go to my profile it's the pinned tweet uh on the profile and you just click the retweet
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button for those people who are unaware how to do it great debate going on uh the second topic that
00:59:42.780
we're speaking about uh which the introduction has been done by hazel dean and truth teller is
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is the holdemar real and was it a genocide of christians i'm going to give the mic straight
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back to haz haz you've got two minutes uh go ahead start whenever you want citing the courts of modern
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day ukraine who came to the determination that it was a genocide as part of an explicit policy help
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and funded by the cia and usa to demonize russia and accuse them of genocide is laughable as if they
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don't have biases there's not a single russian court that has ever determined that the soviet
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government was guilty of genocide against ukrainians or genocide in general so that's a complete lie
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and moreover you're you're selectively choosing these testimonies of anti-communists what about even
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people who are not even communists like sir john maynard who was an official in the indian government
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who stated that the idea of three to four million dead has passed into legend that the notion that
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the calamity of uh is comparable to the one that happened in 1921 and 22 which was before
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collectivization this is when the kulaks were basically allowed to run rampant throughout the
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1920s that's why there was the famines that happened after 1917 by the way and before the time of the
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soviet government in general because the agriculture wasn't collectivized they didn't have mechanized
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agriculture they didn't have tractors they didn't have modern machinery they didn't have any of the
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modern farming equipment that was necessary to actually mitigate famines when environmental
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disasters struck you can't explain why after this collectivization after this industrialization
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the periodic famines they used to plague russia for a thousand years came to an end people stopped
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starving to death every time there was an environmental disaster because they had the modern
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technology and mechanized equipment to mitigate it and get much much higher yields than before
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so this is what you're not understanding is that yes there were famines before the collectivization
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efforts when kulaks were hoarding grain and acting as speculators and the so-called market was allowed to be in
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command but that's an argument in favor of collectivization now finally i want to make the point
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if this was somehow a jewish orchestrated thing these were jewish satanic people eating babies and they
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were all jewish how do you explain the fact that the main personalities that were jewish and
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bolshevik leadership actually opposed stalin's plans for collectivization they sided with bucharin the
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common of zinoviev bloc sided with bucharin against stalin's collectivization trotsky was against
01:02:02.520
stalin's collectivization the jews in the main were not in favor of it even yagoda was against
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stalin on this so you're completely wrong okay for sure um a truth uh go ahead you've got an extra nine
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seconds uh for your rebuttal which is going to be two minutes and nine seconds uh go ahead truth
01:02:18.200
sure yeah thank you yagoda and yeshov were in on the deliberate starvation tactics used during the
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holotomy but not just during the holotomy i mean this was going on in the 1920s as well they were
01:02:30.760
using starvation as a deliberate tactic to starve people to death because it was an easy way to kill
01:02:35.200
people because they came in they invaded with a vengeance to get back at the gentiles for what they
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felt was uh you know they're the anti-semitism they've been facing for centuries within russia because
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they weren't allowed in because of all the misbehaviors and criminality they'd been doing
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and the terrorist activities they were doing before 1914 before even uh before 1917 even because they
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were committing so many acts of terrorism but once again you only to take my work for it it was jacob
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de han who actually came in he was a jew from america who came or sorry holland who came in and
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witnessed how many jews there were in the jails for committing crimes they weren't even that badly
01:03:08.060
treated or starving to death and they went off to israel and did his own thing in terms of other
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testimony like i said i'll i'll remind the audience eyewitnesses who have no reason to lie
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witnessed the halotomir arthur kessler witnessed the halotomir he was jewish he's already dead he
01:03:23.000
had no reason to lie and he was publishing his articles in real time and he got so disgusted with
01:03:27.260
the policies of these satanic worshippers that he left he didn't want to have anything to do and he
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was a marxist before he showed up in 1932 and what what reason would gareth jones have to lie he was a
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welsh journalist and do you know what happened to him he was killed in 1935 because the jews
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paid off an assassin to take him out so that's what took place because they didn't want the truth
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to come out this is just another typical cover-up of the jews because they never want to be held
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accountable for their crimes and of course whether it was 7 million or 10 million they want to make
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sure that number never comes out because it's above 6 million and that's a very special number
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to the jews because they love to use that as a pretext to be able to collect reparations to this
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day where they collectively take from the germans who weren't even around during world war ii to
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having even been accused of any crimes because that's how these jews roll they they expect
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perpetual punishment from those they claim punish them but they'll deny the crimes they've committed
01:04:17.540
on those involved let me tell you about another crime the jews also committed against the germans
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the same soviet jews and that's that they killed 11 million germans after world war ii and raped 2
01:04:24.800
million other women between 1945 and 48 which they actively denied because they engaged in violent
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event denial a crime in the united states appreciate that truth uh has um go ahead for
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your two minutes he's acting like these people never had any incentive to lie about the soviet
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state and demonize it in every possible way when the soviets committed the worst possible sin in the
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eyes of the global capitalist leaders repudiate and completely destroy the debt that was enslaving
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russia before they nationalized all their resources they took the oil from the major oil conglomerates
01:04:55.120
they took all the wealth and resources back from the foreign capitalists
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so of course there's a huge monetary and financial and material incentive by the capitalist governments
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of the world to do everything in their power to have agents completely lie about what was going on
01:05:08.740
in the soviet union you're conveniently leaving out other sources like duranti uh durantee who uh
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completely walter durantee who completely repudiates the narratives that you're talking about here
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that somehow there is some kind of uh uniquely atrocious thing going on because of the famine in 32 33
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finally this idea that it was deliberate and it was a policy of deliberate starvation here he once
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again avoiding the elephants in the room which is the question of the policy of collectivization
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was not supported by people like yagoda yagoda was not a friend of stalin's and stalin actually had
01:05:38.980
yagoda shot if anything the fact that yagoda was ever in a position of power just goes to show that
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stalin didn't even fully consolidate full and complete power over the uh the complete soviet government
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he was someone who sided and was more sympathetic with bukharin and that completely other block by
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the way if you don't know who bukharin is because you're illiterate bukharin didn't want
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collectivization he wanted market mechanisms to prevail in the countryside and basically allow the kulaks
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to go run rampant but despite that fact this was causing a profound crisis in the soviet union because
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the fact that they couldn't feed their people they weren't producing enough grain because they were
01:06:12.660
hoarding it in the countryside there was no solution to this crisis other than collectivization in
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order to get the necessary capital to actually fund mechanization and modernization you're
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consistently ignoring the dire and pressing need to modernize and industrialize the economy not just
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for the sake of avoiding famines in the future but also building up the military necessary to resist
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future invasions like the nazi invasion that did come in 1941 very in time um truth uh go ahead with
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your rebuttal sure yeah thank you see now russia and germany actually had a non-aggression
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pact signed in 1939 and it was russia that was going to violate it through the operation groza
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that uh was planned three months before there was even an operation barbarossa where germany was uh
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that ended up having to take a defensive position and protect their interests otherwise russia was
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planning an invasion of western europe it's so funny to hear the ussr painted as a victim state they
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have to spend all this money on arms when they were the aggressor communism in and of itself
01:07:13.660
is an aggressive violent ideology once again that entails the violent overthrow of the establishment
01:07:19.840
to then take control of the means of production take the resources assets strip it and then decimated
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essentially and that's essentially what the jews in charge those funded by the central bankers such
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as jacob schiff max moorberg arm and hammer ashberg etc were looking to do as a flip side to capitalism
01:07:37.960
so this way they could create cold wars finance both sides and win the party doesn't talk about
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why does he talk about maxim lipinoff who is he or maybe he knows him better as mayer finkelstein he
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was the guy that was a little financing stalin and the whole operation he was the guy stalin at the
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institute he was the arm of the rothschilds a name that rarely gets mentioned so he was the guy calling
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the shots and he got to stick around well longer than stalin did in fact go figure imagine that
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so we see who's actually in charge has always been the jewish banksters and he couldn't deny that they
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did take debt there was a land lease agreement for a billion than 11 billion dollars more because they
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couldn't even afford to defend themselves much less be on the aggressive side because they had
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to be financed by jewish banksters who owned them just like they owned them in 1917 just like it was
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henry fourth that had to come and teach them how to build tractors cars and cars and other infrastructure
01:08:26.580
because they couldn't do anything on their own that led to the starvation of their own people so whether
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you want to say was deliberate or is because of an incompetence it's on them because there was a
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leadership and they couldn't figure out how to do farming and feed their people but they actually
01:08:38.380
did they were doing collectivization and stealing whatever it is that we're making under so under
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the circumstances that they put themselves in deliberately because they jailed all of their
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specialists in new farming okay um brilliant so we're gonna do the um concluding remarks on uh by
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haz and truth 90 seconds haz is gonna get an extra five seconds because uh truth one over five seconds
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i mean 95 seconds but it the concluding mark remarks by haz and truth are on is the holdemar real
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and were christians persecuted uh or genocided go ahead has your 95 seconds first he claims that it
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was a deliberate policy of starvation then he's just claiming that it was just because they were
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incompetent and didn't know how to farm which one is it you're completely contradicting yourself here
01:09:22.900
and it's totally incoherent and if you were correct that they were fundamentally incompetent
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and didn't know how to farm whatsoever why was that the only actual famine that wasn't
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a direct cause of the war which was the one that happened after world war ii in 1947 this was the
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only one that happened if they didn't know how to farm you would have think the famine would have
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continued on for the rest of the 1930s and it didn't it only happened once and they quickly
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relieved it and it came to an end so you're completely wrong about that you're making the
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claim that the soviets were planning a war of aggression against the nazis before operation barbara so
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there's zero evidence to substantiate that whatsoever you just totally pulled it out of
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your ass now why would the soviet union have developed the country so much modernized they
01:10:03.160
gave people education built up so much infrastructure improve the quality of life so drastically as they
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did caloric consumption literacy rates health care building twice as much hospitals that existed
01:10:13.700
under the czars if the goal was to asep strip it and completely devastate and destroy the opposite
01:10:18.580
happened they built a prosperous thriving and and very powerful civilization became the number two
01:10:23.280
superpower in the entire world they did the opposite of what you're saying they didn't ask
01:10:26.620
to strip it and devastate it they built it up to become a nuclear armed superpower that made the
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entire established colonial world tremble in fear and the idea that stalin was answering to anyone
01:10:36.280
whatsoever is a joke but the idea that he was answering to some random uh foreign jewish banker or
01:10:41.740
whatever you're talking about just some random schizoid nonsense you pulled out of your ass
01:10:44.980
now finally the soviets didn't take on debt in the 1930s and the uh or the 40s because lend lease was
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actually never paid back and it wasn't even decisive in winning the war's outcome which i've demonstrated
01:10:55.660
already appreciate that uh sorry truth truth go ahead you've got 93 seconds for your concluding remarks
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on this specific topic which is is the holdemar real and were the christians persecuted
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well in summary yes latimer was real based on eyewitness testimony based on the decision in the courts both in
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the duma in russia and also in ukraine so i don't know russia why russia would shoot itself in the foot
01:11:23.440
acknowledge a crime that would hurt its reputation when it was the ussr if it wasn't actually true
01:11:28.540
and that's of course in addition to the witness testimony from arthur kessler and both garrett jones
01:11:33.660
as well who saw the exact same thing and documented in real time and it was unfortunately garrett jones's
01:11:39.940
that led to garrett jones's demise at the tender age of around 30 years old because well that's just
01:11:44.940
what jews do they like to sacrifice gentiles especially the ones that tell the truth she
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says i have a bounty on my head for the same reason the jews like to silence those who speak up
01:11:52.840
against them and they hire these types of shabbos going here to smear them and he keeps telling me
01:11:56.920
that i'm pulling stuff out of my rear end i have not even once insulted him and that's fine so in
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summary we can conclude the latimer was absolutely happened and it wasn't even the first famine it was
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one of the biggest famines that took place there were so many of them you lose track and there were
01:12:10.160
absolutely jews involved with it now has there been infighting among jews let's discuss that for a
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second yes there has of course there has because they also operate as double agents
01:12:17.560
you go to and yeshov weren't executed because of the crimes they committed they were executed because
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they were double agents you go to was also a diamond it was a diamond swuggling as well and he was
01:12:26.640
subject he was doing corruption he was a corrupt guy and so stalin you know laid punishment for that
01:12:31.820
reason because he was no longer loyal it wasn't because of the crimes that were committed so jews
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will even double cross each other that's all that shows it's not because they're against the
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appreciate that truth and that is the conclusion of round two the tweet is in the nest
01:12:46.740
who won round two is the holdemar real and was it um the genocide of christians i appreciate
01:12:54.940
has and truth uh going through that the second the third i appreciate everybody guys do retweet
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reshare the space let everybody know we're live we're live on twitter youtube and rumble
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there are around 3 000 people on rumble on youtube and i believe 1 400 on here listening to this
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no i uh i'm doing a pull up on my end here we got about 2 500 here between rumble and youtube
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um watching live and then we got another i think you said 14 or 1300 here on the space so no it's it's
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good uh good turnout man especially for something uh this topic which is very um particular and uh
01:13:41.700
you know direct but it's good for sure i think there's a lot of people learning a lot of information
01:13:47.460
so i really appreciate has and truth providing people with this uh debate the third topic is and
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has been something that's been covered by both of them in the previous uh aspects of the debate i'm
01:13:59.700
going to go for truth first is and it is communism jewish and again it'll be three minutes to lay down
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the foundation i think people appreciate that i got a message saying three minutes to lay down the
01:14:10.600
foundation of the argument and then we'll go back to two minutes but yeah truth three minutes um you'll
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have to go with topic number three which is is communism a jewish construct go ahead truth
01:14:21.800
i mean as i explained before it absolutely is because the jews say it is so take them at their word
01:14:27.600
otherwise you'll be anti-semitic right so jews say it's communist i'll repeat a couple of the quotes
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i read earlier the jewish elements provide the driving forces for communism that's dr oscar levy
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some may call it communism but i call it what it is judaism that's rabbi stephen weiss and bobby
01:14:42.800
fisher said the exact same thing he had an iq over 180 i don't think anyone else has an iq that high
01:14:47.860
and he recognized communism for what it was a jewish construct now in terms of uh actions i will say look
01:14:53.540
at the actions what were the actions of communism well we know the communist manifestos were drafted
01:14:57.380
by jews karl marx moses mordecai levy of course moses s and frederick ingles was a shaboskoy
01:15:02.240
so yes it was drafted by jews both the communist manifesto and das kapita we know that it was funded
01:15:07.800
by jews i've already named the bankers he can't name any other he thinks just things just happen
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magically and they're just not funded oh no they didn't need any funding people just work for free
01:15:15.980
and otherwise you know they're willing to go kill for free well didn't work that way jacob schiff
01:15:20.200
max warberg of course armin hammer and ashberg were the ones who funded communist so jews funded it
01:15:25.880
jews are the ones who drafted it and was rothschild who was behind the whole time enabling the whole
01:15:30.160
thing as the head of the federal reserve at that time and of course it was jews that disproportionately
01:15:33.900
benefited from it they're the ones who instituted the anti-semitism law as soon as it came into power
01:15:38.100
so they could protect themselves they're the ones who built up settlements for themselves in ukraine
01:15:41.920
they were the ones who carved out the jewish oblast in 1934 they are the ones who were sacrificing
01:15:47.280
gentiles christians especially about 100 million of them killing over 200 000 priests and monks and destroying
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about 54 000 churches as well but you know what they didn't touch they didn't touch any synagogues or
01:15:58.220
jewish community centers or jewish schools those were never touched in the secret language they speak
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yiddish or hebrew stalin could speak it all the leaders could essentially speak those languages
01:16:06.140
they communicated very well with the israeli leadership as stalin did when he talked to both
01:16:09.980
golda mayor and david bangarin so communism yes is absolutely a jewish construct and it's a flip side to
01:16:16.100
zionism they work together essentially to destroy countries they're both expansionists and they don't care
01:16:20.560
about the gentiles that they kill just like the israelis don't care about the palestines they
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killed the soviet jews don't care about any of the russians kazakhs belarusians or any of the
01:16:28.200
gentiles they killed there and that's why i stand by it that communism is absolutely jewish construct
01:16:33.140
thank you i appreciate that truth um has you've got three minutes go ahead with your rebuttal
01:16:40.940
about is communism jewish so he cites these random uh jews that the by the way the jew that he cite also
01:16:48.460
claimed that uh that nazism was actually jewish in spirit so he's not very reputable but there are far
01:16:54.860
more christian authorities including popes like pope francis as well as various orthodox authorities
01:17:01.460
especially patriarchs that were under soviet rule and even before like patriarch ticken who said that
01:17:06.400
lenin had a christian soul especially the patriarchs that came afterwards it's more and more common
01:17:12.200
for christian authorities that were in proximity with communist movements to compare communism with
01:17:17.320
christianity actually the modern day communist party of the russian federation led by gennedy
01:17:22.000
zeyuganov actually constantly calls communism christian in spirit and he works in in tandem in
01:17:28.480
collaboration with the orthodox church and it's not an uncommon view whatsoever in russia today to
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compare the two so finding these random people that are claiming all this or that is jewish nazism is
01:17:38.320
jewish communism is jewish what about all the christians who compare it to christianity
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now finally i want to make sure that everyone can catch this guy in his lie he said that moses
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has wrote the communist manifesto the only person who was jewish that had anything to do with the
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communist manifesto was carl marx has didn't have anything to do with it and as for who funded carl
01:17:59.060
marx he was funded by his alien friend friendred angles who owned a factory and there's letters that
01:18:05.060
confirm marx constantly asking his friend for money marx also worked as a journalist on the side he
01:18:09.900
wasn't funded by any bankers whatsoever speaking of bankers like jewish uh jacob schiff that he's
01:18:14.940
mentioning well uh u.s department files actually confirmed that investment banker jacob schiff
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was actually against the bolshevik regime he supported the february revolution not the bolshevik
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revolution two distinct events uh the idea that the 200,000 priests were killed is nonsense because
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there wasn't even 200,000 priests before the bolshevik revolution uh in the first place there wasn't even
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that many that existed the jewish religion was persecuted by special departments that were meant
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to modernize the jewish community under the soviet government and that's a fact that atheism was
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promoted wholesale not just against christians but also against jews the soviets were consistent
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opponents of zionism they condemned zionism stalin condemned zionism as a reactionary movement of
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bourgeois nationalism the soviet press constantly denounced the zionist efforts and the soviet government
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was actually the one that exposed the balfour declaration which was supposed to be uh secret
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actually the sykes picot which was supposed to be secret and uh they they constantly said that
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the international capitalist class was trying to create uh and traffic all the jews into palestine
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so they were exposing that and completely opposed to it so he's completely lying about that now
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regarding the u.n vote to partition palestine that happened in 1947 in the soviet role and that i can
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get into it but no communism is not fundamentally jewish and it's ridiculous to assert that when
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the overwhelming majority of communists who ever existed were not jewish if there were some prominent
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uh jewish involvement in the socialist movements in europe and western europe in the late 1800s and
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early 1900s but throughout the rest of the 20th century you're seeing africa middle east uh asia you
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know you're saying yeah okay sure appreciate that um truth your rebuttal you get an extra five seconds
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it'll be two minutes and five seconds go ahead truth sure yeah thank you stan was an absolute
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friend of the zionists and the jews the weapons he took from germany in 1945 he gave to the zionist
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jewish gangs he was smuggling them through czechoslovakia to help them to wipe out and kill
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palestinians he claims to care about clearly he doesn't know stalin that well and why would the
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ussr vote in favor of a jewish state and why would they convince five other countries in eastern europe
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to do the same if they weren't zionist and why were they bringing in the foreign why were the first
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country to recognize israel why is it that golda mayor was the foreign minister to the ussr if they
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weren't zionist why is it david ben-guyen was congratulating stalin for 33 years of communist
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devastation because he looked forward to doing the exact same thing to the palestinians because hey
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jewish minds think alike let's go kill off the natives of the land steal the land for ourselves
01:20:43.920
assets strip it and get rich quick essentially now let's talk about some more about uh the famines that
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were taking place led essentially by jews in fact there was absolute discrimination
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naftali frankel was one of the popular gulag administrators stalin had a particular favoritism
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towards him because he came up with the idea of the nutrition scale cycle that essentially entailed
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starving off the least productive slave in the gulag but then rewarding the most productive one with
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the meal so if you didn't work hard enough as a slave making nothing essentially going back to your
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shoebox of an apartment you'd be slowly starved to death this was naftali frankel when he got caught
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trying to escape before he became gulag administrator he was with like three other gentiles you know what
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happened to the gentiles they were executed what happened to naftali frankel he got rewarded because
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you see there was a preferential treatment when it came to jews and he was one of stalin's favorites
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because he starved off so many gentiles because that's just what they do by design now going back
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in general to speak about uh zionism and communism and whether it's oh yeah he mentioned uh karl marx as
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well i never said that moses has wrote the communist manifesto i said they collaborated
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of course it was both angles and moses mordecai let me call him by his jewish name why do the jews
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always change their name 10 seconds why is that what do they have to hide vladimir lenin is vladimir
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lindolf blanc did you know that his grandfather on his maternal side was actually a jew and he tried
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to change his name why is uh did stalin change his name to jacob jewish philly to stalin
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appreciate that truth um has uh for your rebuttal you've got um an extra four seconds uh two minutes
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and four seconds go ahead has yep sure so regarding the czechs who smuggled weapons to the zionists they
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were actually shot in the slankski trial and this was leading up to the anti-zionist purges
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that were happening under the late stalin government when they were finding out that there was
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an attempt of by zionists to infiltrate the communist aligned governments so the czechs who smuggled
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weapons weren't doing it on behalf of stalin they were doing it in secret and they were shot for it
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now the soviets did not support zionist ideology what they supported was a joint arab jewish state
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with equal rights not an exclusively jewish one and they were being completely lied to by people like
01:22:51.340
ben-gurion when in reality it was the urgun lehi terrorists that were actually in control and the
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soviets caught wind of this they supported efforts to actually sabotage the lehi and urgun nationalist
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fascist terrorists and completely sabotage them at every turn there were jews in the gulag who were
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sent to the gulags if the gulags were just meant for gentiles why were there thousands of jews in
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them and the notion of the slave stuff of killing off the weakest again you just pulled it out of
01:23:16.020
your ass sorry to hurt your feelings the per capita rate of people in the gulags in the soviet union by
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the way has never actually surpassed the one that exists right now they were the worst thing ever
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they were bad conditions when the material conditions overall in the soviet union were bad it was never
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the intention to torture anyone sadistically and by the way jews were regularly executed but that
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doesn't matter to you because you're just going to pin that to jewish infighting how convenient
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it's a complete way to avoid the illogical inconsistencies in your arguments marx wasn't
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even fundamentally jewish besides his blood and his ancestry which shows that for jew for you judaism is
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a racial thing marx was raised as a lutheran he was a devout follower of christ before studying under
01:24:03.780
hegel an arian and it was actually hegel who inspired him to abandon religion and if you don't
01:24:08.940
understand the background of hegelianism how that was so fundamental to marx's transformation you're
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emphasizing people like moses hess who marx and engels regularly made fun of and didn't respect
01:24:18.440
and had nothing to do with the communist manifesto it's ridiculous moreover it's a widespread myth
01:24:22.300
that lenin's grandfather was jewish i'm saying thank you to uh anon for the 100 super chat sorry
01:24:27.300
guys if i was muted thank you for that and i appreciate that greatly my friends uh for your
01:24:33.140
rebuttal god that's amusing that he didn't know about it but his sister knew about it lenin's sister
01:24:39.500
knew and in fact wrote a letter about it and knew that her grandfather maternal side was jewish lenin
01:24:44.620
absolutely knew as well so and he and look at his physiognomy he looks like a jew now with respect to
01:24:50.520
carl marx why did he change his name from moses mordecai levy why was he given a jewish name for the plan
01:24:56.000
was to become a lutheran and then just abandon religion altogether a little confusing what's going on
01:25:00.920
here maybe it's under the guise of pretending to be atheists pretending to be lutheran because well
01:25:05.180
that's the only way you can really get ahead because at that time jews were subject to different
01:25:09.660
types of treatments because they kept getting caught committing criminal activities as they've
01:25:13.140
been doing for 2 000 plus years and that's the reason why they've been kicked out of 109 countries
01:25:17.860
1034 times from various crimes entailing things such as usury spreading degeneracy and filth
01:25:24.060
pushing atheism and of course now of course communism one of the main jewish constructs that's the whole
01:25:29.860
point of today's debate so once again there was no answer about the naftali frankel that i mentioned
01:25:34.740
he was the one who came up with the starvation tactics in the 1920s this was this had nothing
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to do with say oh a crop failure or whatnot and to claim that it was natural no it wasn't natural
01:25:43.760
causes there were deliberate starvation tactics to kill off the population and in fact it got to a
01:25:50.380
point where even though they'd allowed for abortion they actually had to ban abortion i think it was
01:25:54.740
close to i'll get the exact date around the 1950s right after around world not just world war ii even
01:25:59.080
around close to 1930s because they were running out of people because they'd kill so many i believe it was
01:26:03.580
after 1936 is well we got to stop on the abortions we need more people we've killed too many so that's
01:26:09.440
an obvious indicator not only did the whole automers and all the famines take place they killed too many
01:26:14.300
people and they ended up having to take people out of jail to help them out with farming to help them
01:26:18.280
out with things they just weren't able to do because again the jews that were there didn't understand
01:26:22.120
anything about engineering building infrastructure they relied on slave labor and help from the likes of
01:26:26.740
henry ford help from the germans of course through the treaty of rapallo and of course help from the germans
01:26:31.000
through operation vladimir when they brought in 200 scientists to help them build things because
01:26:34.820
they couldn't do anything on their own unlike during the time of the czar where they weren't
01:26:38.060
dependent on others to build things for themselves thanks for that truth um and then let's go to for
01:26:43.760
um has has go ahead two minutes for your rebel yeah well there we have proof that lenin was actually a
01:26:50.780
sincere uh sorry that marx was actually a sincere christian in his youth because he would write poems
01:26:54.980
about jesus he would talk about jesus and how much he was sincere about his faith no one was forcing him to do
01:27:00.060
that his father did convert to christianity maybe it was because to avoid the restrictions that were
01:27:05.180
placed on jews maybe it wasn't but we know that marx was a sincere christian and he was actually a
01:27:10.520
student and disciple of the christian german philosopher george hegel so you don't know anything
01:27:14.640
about hegel because you don't read books but if you did you would understand why marx made the
01:27:18.640
transition to communism as a consequence of his study under hegel now the the notion that uh frankel
01:27:24.740
somehow proves that there was jewish control frankel was appointed by yogoda and frankel was
01:27:29.740
one of the gulag administrators but yogoda was actually shot and he was removed from power
01:27:34.660
frankel was also removed from power so what does that prove how could these people be in power if
01:27:39.260
they're being removed you're going to peg that up to jewish infighting what was the infighting about
01:27:43.620
then explain it to us concretely the notion that lenin's sister knew that he was jewish yeah that was
01:27:49.340
the source of the claim that people make that uh lenin's grandfather alexander blank who was a
01:27:54.320
volga german and tartar was jewish but that's a complete fabrication and there's no evidence for
01:27:59.220
it now the notion about um henry ford uh them needing henry ford every single industrialized
01:28:05.820
country in the world relied upon the accumulation accumulated scientific knowledge of mankind nobody
01:28:10.080
just creates the whole inventions of mankind by stretch henry ford relied upon the inventions of
01:28:15.680
the british engineers and scientists that came before him and they in turn relied upon the
01:28:20.640
inventions that came before them the idea that they were engaging in trade practices where they
01:28:25.960
were getting mechanized equipment and cars and stuff they weren't taking this out on credit they
01:28:30.260
weren't doing it it wasn't being given to them for free they had to pay for it on the international
01:28:34.700
market and they had to do it to speed up industrialization they only had 10 years and the 10
01:28:39.720
years later what would we see we see the german invasion so they had to do it and the notion that
01:28:44.920
trading for foreign machinery and foreign technology to rapidly assist and prop up your
01:28:50.220
own industrialization modernization efforts what's wrong with that no country on the world can just
01:28:55.320
invent everything from scratch oh yeah for sure for sure so we're gonna do concluding remarks on this
01:29:01.960
uh topic which is and we're gonna go to truth the truth's gonna get uh it's gonna be it's 90 seconds
01:29:07.420
but obviously i'm gonna give truth an extra nine seconds because it has one over there so it'll be
01:29:10.960
one minute and 39 seconds for your truth on the third topic which is is communism jewish uh go
01:29:18.100
ahead truth for your concluding remarks on this topic so in conclusion communism is absolutely jewish
01:29:24.540
jewish scholars have stated this bobby fisher stated this one of the smartest chess players in the world
01:29:29.280
who was ethnically jewish of course and we will look at the actions one more time of course communism
01:29:35.160
was drafted by jews moses mordecai levy yeah yeah marx was such a devout christian but then he
01:29:39.780
became an atheist so he went from writing songs about christ to disavowing him a little confused
01:29:44.040
man who knows what he was on perhaps it was because he was getting funded by the Rothschild
01:29:47.520
i have the actual copies of the checks he received so maybe he was actually devoted to money first
01:29:51.840
like a typical jew and he absolutely did collaborate with moses hess in addition to you know drafting both
01:29:58.680
the communist manifesto and also das kapital on how to screw over gentile countries because the jews
01:30:03.800
just don't really like to work none of the so-called proletariats were even factory workers most of
01:30:08.440
them were just writers both stalin and lenin were writers just living off royalties from their books
01:30:12.660
they never got their hands dirty what do they even know about the factory worker in general
01:30:16.300
but now this whole need to even need communism in the first place there was never a need
01:30:20.320
because again during the sars reign things were great he created a top four economy around the world
01:30:25.340
with advanced labor rights according to well a u.s president who came to visit william howard taft
01:30:31.180
who had nothing but good things to say and high praise about the incredibly advanced sophisticated
01:30:36.220
and benevolent labor system the tsar established for all of his citizens who he viewed as equals
01:30:42.700
and people could advance very quickly if they just worked hard on merit but they didn't even need to
01:30:46.520
work as hard because taxes were so low at only two percent there's hardly any inflation hardly
01:30:50.480
any unemployment and they were mass exporters of almost every major agricultural product industrial
01:30:55.200
product that was out there they were already industrialized but when the soviets showed up they
01:30:58.780
couldn't figure anything out for themselves and that's why they failed and starved people off
01:31:02.840
pretty sure that i am and then has a 92 92 seconds for your concluding remarks on is communism jewish
01:31:10.200
sure far more christian scholars and far more actual heads of christian churches including the pope
01:31:16.220
claim that the essence of communism is actually christian so that outweighs any of the fringe and
01:31:22.020
marginal people he's trying to cite that were jewish claiming this there's no evidence whatsoever
01:31:26.760
that suggests that marx was funded by the rothschilds it didn't even make sense by the way
01:31:31.220
and yes marx became an atheist just like frederick engels did who was an arian and also a christian
01:31:36.360
and that was because of their engagement with hegelian philosophy and the young hegelians there
01:31:41.780
was nothing jewish about the young hegelian movement you don't know about these things because you don't
01:31:45.020
read books uh moses has had nothing to do with das kapita i doubt you could even cite a single sentence
01:31:50.420
from the capital because you probably never even read not only have you not read capital you probably
01:31:56.080
never read a single page of that book stop talking about it if you don't even you're not even
01:31:59.680
familiar with the basics um you're coping about czarist russia being some kind of like advanced
01:32:04.860
lost atlantean civilization which had spaceships and was like this beautiful paradise or whatever
01:32:09.940
it was a total shithole majority of people lived no different than slaves and were treated basically
01:32:14.800
as cattle one in four of all babies that were born died and it was basically a total shithole and this
01:32:20.520
first opportunity that the majority of people got to rise up and oppose the state they took it right away
01:32:25.840
because that's how discontented they were with it this was beginning with the revolutionary
01:32:30.520
movements in the late 19th century which was because the peasants were just starting to
01:32:34.680
spontaneously rebel against the state in the government even in the middle of the 19th century
01:32:38.780
this discontented they were with it this was beginning with the revolutionary movements in the
01:32:44.580
late 19th century which was because the peasants were just starting to spontaneously rebel against the
01:32:49.880
state in the government even in the middle of the 19th century so it was deeply unpopular and they
01:32:54.380
overthrew it it was very popular that revolution they had i appreciate that and that was the end
01:33:01.840
of round three let me quickly send marion the co-host again um the tweet is in the nest who
01:33:08.080
won round three is it uh who won round three which is is communism jewish was it hazard dean or was
01:33:14.840
it truth teller the tweet is in the nest vote as you please that was an excellent uh round the we're
01:33:22.540
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01:33:57.060
okay marion might be having mic issues possibly um so round four and we are with round four going to be
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can you guys hear me you guys should be able to hear me now yeah i don't know what the fuck um
01:34:25.000
see and this kind of happens with x a lot where i'll be on it on my um i'll be on it on my on my uh
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computer and it'll act stupid so um this is what i'm gonna do guys um shit god damn it all right
01:34:40.200
so guys i'm gonna get off um i just don't feel well not gonna lie to you guys really tired barely
01:34:46.680
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so you guys can still listen to the space on twitter all right um but i'm gonna be on tomorrow
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at uh f4 with uh viva fray okay guys so how the fuck you have a 200k setup and have mic issues
01:36:01.320
um raruka in case you didn't realize retard um that's twitter that's not me it's not my setup
01:36:07.920
is twitter twitter on web is very bad it's very bad
01:36:12.040
okay that's why everyone it's widely known that twitter is fucking terrible uh on pc it's good
01:36:20.180
on computer sorry it's good on phone terrible for pc so that's the problem dude
01:36:32.040
why is it working stupid ass against twitter it's the platform itself retard twitter is meant to be used
01:36:39.600
with your phone uh anyway yeah so yeah guys i will um i will be back on tomorrow 4 p.m we'll be
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