The Debrief With MyronGainesX - He Bound, Tortured & KILLED! Fed Explains Serial Killer： BTK

00:00:00.280 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FedIt. Today, we're going to be covering the BTK killer. 0.93

00:00:04.800 You guys have been requesting this one for a long time, man.

00:00:07.680 This will be probably going to be one of the most infamous serial killers, definitely out of Kansas.

00:00:10.960 Let's get into it, guys. We've got a lot to talk about on this one, man.

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00:02:06.580 We're back.

00:02:07.060 What's up, guys?

00:02:07.640 So today we're going to be covering the BTK killer, man.

00:02:11.160 So let's get right into it.

00:02:12.120 I'm going to go ahead and share a screen with y'all because we got a lot to cover.

00:02:16.180 And, yeah, this one is definitely going to be a good one.

00:02:20.120 All right.

00:02:20.660 So here we go.

00:02:21.740 We got Dennis Rader, guys.

00:02:22.980 Here he is, okay?

00:02:26.320 Dennis Lynn Rader, born March 9, 1945, is an American serial killer known as BTK,

00:02:30.880 an abbreviation he gave himself for buying, torture, kill, the BTK strangler, or the BTK killer.

00:02:35.480 Between 1974 and 1991, he killed 10 people in Wichita and Park City, Kansas, and sent taunting letters to police and media outlets describing the details of his crimes.

00:02:44.640 After a decade-long hiatus, Rader resumed sending letters in 2004, leading to his 2005 arrest and subsequent guilty plea.

00:02:51.760 He is currently saving 10 consecutive life sentences at El Dorado Correctional Facility.

00:02:57.740 So, yeah, man, he is never getting out.

00:03:02.540 But, yeah, we're going to go over a documentary, guys, which chronicles his crimes.

00:03:07.580 And, as we discussed before, a lot of these serial killers, guys, that, like, operated from the 60s all the way to the 90s, a lot of them didn't get caught because of DNA, which, in this case, you're going to see DNA rear its ugly head, I guess, in Dennis Rader's not to his favor later on.

00:03:26.060 So I got this documentary here, guys, and we're going to play this thing.

00:03:30.500 It's called Dennis Rader, BTK.

00:03:31.700 It's an older documentary, but it was really well done, and they got a lot of investigators that were involved in the investigation.

00:03:36.740 So without further ado, let's get right into it.

00:03:40.820 BTK.

00:03:42.260 Until the kilter years.

00:03:49.340 For over 30 years.

00:03:52.740 Ten bodies.

00:03:55.060 Three initials which struck terror in the heartlands of America.

00:04:00.020 B stands for blind. 0.94

00:04:02.900 T stands for torture.

00:04:05.980 And K stands for kill. 0.95

00:04:08.680 Mind. 0.98

00:04:09.900 Torture. 1.00

00:04:11.120 Kill. 0.99

00:04:12.180 A serial killer so deadly, even the police feared where he would strike next.

00:04:16.900 I was terrified that this guy was maybe going to come after my family.

00:04:21.980 We go inside police files, piece together the forensic evidence,

00:04:26.460 and reveal the true story of the hunt for one of the world's most wanted.

00:04:32.840 Hands up, out of the car now!

00:04:37.060 So fast forward this little intro.

00:04:38.840 Wichita, Kansas.

00:04:42.760 Built on the prairie flats of the Midwest.

00:04:45.520 Honest, God-fearing, Middle America. 1.00

00:04:48.340 The biggest city in the state they call the Buckle on the Bible Belt.

00:04:53.300 A community where people felt safe leaving their doors unlocked.

00:04:57.120 And just so you guys know, here's Wichita, Kansas right here for y'all.

00:05:00.740 Because some of you guys might be saying, where the hell is Wichita?

00:05:03.340 So if you go here to a map, it's damn near in the heart of the United States.

00:05:07.760 Okay, guys?

00:05:09.440 And as you guys can see, Interstate 35 goes through Wichita, Kansas.

00:05:13.260 Which, you know, as you guys know, I'm very familiar with this highway.

00:05:15.820 Because this highway goes all the way down to mile-stomping grounds of Laredo, Texas, right here.

00:05:23.960 Drugs come into the United States through here.

00:05:25.700 And then they're moved all the way up through the Midwest.

00:05:29.220 And Interstate 35 pretty much gets you all the way there.

00:05:31.540 You guys can see all the major cities that it hits.

00:05:34.520 But anyway, back to Wichita.

00:05:36.440 This is where it is, guys.

00:05:37.540 Middle America.

00:05:38.700 You know, literally, when you guys think about the United States,

00:05:42.040 you think of that American dream, Wichita, Kansas embodies that.

00:05:45.160 Okay?

00:05:45.660 So just to give you guys an idea of where these crimes were committed, okay?

00:05:50.120 For all my international viewers out there.

00:05:51.740 Or for all my people that are Geography Challenge,

00:05:53.660 which apparently the after-hour show has demonstrated.

00:05:55.760 A lot of people don't know where anything is.

00:05:57.260 So hopefully that helps.

00:05:59.020 Let's get back into it.

00:06:00.080 Until a serial killer began to prowl the streets.

00:06:06.680 For over 30 years, two generations of detectives hunted Wichita's serial killer.

00:06:12.920 Lieutenant Landwehr headed the BTK task force.

00:06:17.160 We knew sooner or later he will kill again if we fail.

00:06:21.400 And just so you guys know, you're probably wondering, what the hell is a task force?

00:06:23.500 Task force, guys, is a...

00:06:25.500 Basically, it's a team of investigators from different agencies working together,

00:06:30.240 leveraging their different skill sets and abilities, right,

00:06:33.000 and unique authorities to work together in tandem to go ahead and capture criminals.

00:06:38.360 Okay?

00:06:38.900 Right?

00:06:39.160 You got the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which the FBI works with, you know,

00:06:42.360 Homeland Security, ATF, DEA.

00:06:44.640 Everybody's working and, you know, staying locals.

00:06:46.420 They're using their different authorities and powers and jurisdictions to combat terrorism.

00:06:50.220 In this case, the BTK task force, you have a bunch of different agencies working together to catch the serial killer.

00:06:56.000 Because, guys, this dude had the United States shook, especially Wichita,

00:07:00.260 back throughout the 70s when he was doing this stuff.

00:07:02.920 And we'll get into more detail on that here in a second.

00:07:05.440 But that's what a task force was.

00:07:06.840 The fact that they created an entire task force to go after this guy lets you know that they weren't messing around.

00:07:11.900 In our attempt, BTK first struck in 1974.

00:07:16.600 What detectives found at the scene haunted former chief of police Richard LeMunnion for decades.

00:07:28.760 This is the house where it all started.

00:07:31.920 This is where BTK made his first hit over 30 years ago.

00:07:36.120 Most of our homicides were the domestic type, the smoking gun, bar fights, things of that nature.

00:07:50.900 But this particular one was highly unusual.

00:07:53.520 Took all of us by surprise.

00:07:58.820 All right.

00:07:59.740 What you guys are about to hear is pretty graphic.

00:08:01.740 I'm just going to warn you right now, okay?

00:08:03.460 They're going to go into his first murder back in 1974.

00:08:07.380 And, yeah, viewer discretion is advised.

00:08:10.540 The Woodframe house was home to the Otero family, who had only just moved into the area.

00:08:17.060 Joseph was an Air Force veteran, and his wife, Julie, worked in the local factory.

00:08:27.400 It was very shocking for the officers, and they came up.

00:08:30.580 They found the parents face down in their own bedroom, fully clothed, obviously strangled, bags over their head.

00:08:43.240 The strangled corpse of nine-year-old Joe Jr. was in another bedroom.

00:08:47.540 But police were still to make another horrific discovery.

00:08:53.620 His 11-year-old sister, Josephine.

00:08:59.000 Josephine had been put through a different type of death than the others.

00:09:03.380 He took her downstairs, and she was obviously alive.

00:09:07.660 He had put a rope around her neck and over some pipes, and he would raise her up. 0.93

00:09:16.240 And if she was dying, then he was masturbating at that time. 0.95

00:09:20.040 So she was the target, the primary target, I believe, for this. 0.93

00:09:25.120 The other three.

00:09:28.100 Yeah, so he had been stalking them prior to this, guys.

00:09:30.380 And he talks about this in his testimony, which I'll play a little bit later.

00:09:32.860 But he used to stalk his victims for periods of times where he would watch them sometimes for months, if not damn near a year plus,

00:09:39.360 getting their living pattern, seeing where they live.

00:09:41.980 And he was very methodical about how he conducted his crimes, though he did make some mistakes. 0.58

00:09:47.200 Now, this is 1974, guys, so he mentioned that he masturbated, right, at this crime scene after murdering one of the children.

00:09:56.980 And they were able to find – they preserved this DNA, which would come back later on, okay, to haunt him.

00:10:03.580 But remember, 1974, they didn't have any of this stuff, all right?

00:10:08.720 The Otero children had only escaped because they were at school when the killer attacked.

00:10:13.500 The killer had made certain there was no call for help, disabling the phone line before entering the house.

00:10:22.920 That's crazy.

00:10:24.040 You know, that right there goes to speak to his mindset when he entered that house.

00:10:29.160 Because just so y'all know, he entered in bare face, no mask.

00:10:32.520 He went in there with a gun.

00:10:34.700 So he knew, if I'm going to go ahead and get this done, I'm going to go in with a gun.

00:10:39.960 I'm going to cut the phone lines.

00:10:41.240 They will not be able to call for help.

00:10:42.400 And remember, guys, there was no cell phones in 1974.

00:10:44.720 I know you guys were like, wait, why did they just pull out their iPhones and go ahead and call the police?

00:10:49.260 No, man.

00:10:50.000 No iPhones, no SOSs, nothing.

00:10:52.280 Your phone was your landline back then.

00:10:55.700 That's what led the investigators to thinking that this couldn't be a random thing.

00:11:00.000 People just don't walk in off the street and murder a family.

00:11:03.140 You couldn't get your mind around that.

00:11:05.240 And real quick, let me show you guys where the house actually is.

00:11:08.520 Here it is, 803 North Edgemoor Street, okay, in Wichita, Kansas.

00:11:13.740 So this is the front of the home, right?

00:11:16.700 And then this is how he entered right here.

00:11:19.160 He came around the back.

00:11:25.340 He broke through here, and then he cut the phone line, which was right in this area.

00:11:29.380 And then, boom, he came inside that way.

00:11:31.520 So that's how he actually did it.

00:11:33.400 I mean, it's crazy that, you know, this house right here has that kind of, you know, unfortunate historical value.

00:11:42.440 But, yeah.

00:11:45.120 Didn't happen in Wichita, Kansas.

00:11:48.580 But Wichita was different now.

00:11:52.340 BTK had arrived.

00:11:53.760 Searching for the brutal murderer of the Otero family.

00:12:07.240 The victims, a mother, father, and two of their children.

00:12:11.880 All four had been asphyxiated, unstrangled.

00:12:15.940 Why would someone do this to a family?

00:12:18.640 No one would do this just to go in and do it.

00:12:21.860 There had to be a reason for it.

00:12:23.880 And mind you guys, this was his first murder.

00:12:25.660 This wasn't his, like, second or third.

00:12:27.500 Like, he went right for it.

00:12:28.940 Barefaced, gun in there.

00:12:30.420 I'm just going to figure this out.

00:12:33.640 Police thought there could be a sexual motive due to evidence left at the scene.

00:12:37.660 They were focusing on seminal fluid that was deposited near the body of Josephine Otero.

00:12:43.580 They were primarily interested in determining the blood group, if possible.

00:12:49.400 Blood typing suggested the killer was blood type O.

00:12:52.360 But that's the commonest type.

00:12:54.720 40% of people are type O.

00:12:56.480 Yeah, that doesn't help.

00:12:59.260 Like, the universal blood donor, that doesn't really help too much.

00:13:03.540 And remember, DNA wasn't a thing.

00:13:05.260 So that was really the only way they were able to identify anything.

00:13:08.280 It's like, okay, we can go off a blood type, which narrows the suspects down to a degree.

00:13:12.620 But, once again, it's not definitive and or conclusive.

00:13:18.400 Before the use of DNA, the test could only narrow down the suspect list so far.

00:13:23.720 For nine months, police followed up every lead they had.

00:13:29.080 Witnesses provided descriptions and identicates were drawn up.

00:13:33.940 Then, in October 1974, three men confessed to murdering the Oteros.

00:13:41.280 But one person... 0.99

00:13:42.500 Okay, guys, this is where shit gets crazy, all right? 0.98

00:13:45.440 You guys have obviously heard the song by Offset and Cardi B, Clout, right? 0.98

00:13:51.520 They do anything for clout?

00:13:53.880 Y'all about to see right now, this is the biggest clout chase I've ever seen.

00:13:56.480 And this is before social media.

00:13:57.960 So three guys come forward and say,

00:13:59.260 Oh, yeah, we killed the Oteros.

00:14:02.040 And this is how BTK responds.

00:14:04.400 Knew they were lying.

00:14:06.520 Those three dudes you have in custody are just talking to get publicity for the Otero murders.

00:14:12.960 They know nothing at all.

00:14:14.180 I did it by myself and with no one's help.

00:14:18.560 Only the letter's author knew the horrific details.

00:14:23.180 Josephine, hanging by the neck in the northwest part of the basement.

00:14:29.260 Hands tied with bind cord.

00:14:35.180 Feet with clothesline cord.

00:14:39.360 Her glasses in the southwest bedroom.

00:14:43.360 Only the killer would know.

00:14:44.740 None of this had been...

00:14:45.460 Holy!

00:14:46.680 Yo, he's over here giving grim details that only the investigators know and did not release to the public. 1.00

00:14:52.540 So clearly, he's like, no, fuck these guys. 1.00

00:14:55.580 I'm the killer. 1.00

00:14:56.720 I'm the one that did it.

00:14:57.780 And I'm going to go ahead and prove to you guys, telling y'all where I know my victim's glasses are, which goes to show you guys the mindset that this dude is in.

00:15:06.100 And I'm going to play some testimony from him when he confesses later on so you guys can kind of get an idea of what type of individual we're dealing with here.

00:15:12.460 Released publicly.

00:15:14.080 FBI profiler Roy Hazelwood has analyzed BTK's behavior.

00:15:20.960 Okay, what's the FBI profiler?

00:15:23.960 Real quick, you guys may be wondering.

00:15:25.380 An FBI profiler guy typically comes in when you're dealing with serial killers or someone that they're not able to necessarily identify and they need help building a profile for the serial killer.

00:15:32.320 So what the FBI does a lot of the times is the profiler will come in, look at the scene of the crime, look at how they commit the crime, look at any evidence that was left at the scene.

00:15:40.700 And what they do is they build a profile of that individual and try to establish a pattern.

00:15:46.300 They give predictions on how old the individual might be, his race, what type of personality he may be, what he may do for work, et cetera.

00:15:54.740 So it gives investigators an idea of where to start looking for this individual based on the crime scene.

00:16:00.840 So using FBI profilers is fairly common in serial killer cases where there's not many clues because you guys got to remember the things that make serial killers so difficult to catch is that they kill randomly and they attack targets with no real motive.

00:16:12.460 The motive is to kill.

00:16:13.620 It's not necessarily to attack that specific person for some type of reason.

00:16:17.180 A lot of the times the serial killers are able to commit the crimes so viciously is because they don't know who that individual is.

00:16:23.000 They're able to separate feeling from that person, which allows them to commit the heinous crimes easier.

00:16:33.440 Unusual for a serial killer to correspond following the commission of a crime.

00:16:39.360 BTK certainly suffered from malignant narcissism. 0.80

00:16:43.200 And that's when you begin to consider yourself superior to others, that you're incapable of making mistakes and you have a desperate need for attention.

00:16:53.000 He had typed this letter, took it to the city library, and then he called one of the local newspaper reporters.

00:17:05.880 BTK craved attention and used his letter to taunt the police.

00:17:10.680 He dared them to catch him before he struck again.

00:17:13.200 Who does this remind you of?

00:17:15.460 The Zodiac killer did something very similar where he would also write to the press and the police taunting them about catching him for his crimes.

00:17:24.020 When this monster enters my brain, I will never know.

00:17:28.420 Maybe you can stop him.

00:17:30.260 I can't.

00:17:31.640 He has already chosen his next victim. 1.00

00:17:33.740 The code words for me will be bind them, torture them, kill them, B-T-K. 1.00

00:17:51.540 And that right there is how he got his name. 0.99

00:17:55.100 Claiming the murder for the Oteros when three other guys tried to claim the murder.

00:17:58.620 So he had to write that letter into the media to let them know I did it, and he had to give gruesome, grim details that only the investigator and the killer would know.

00:18:07.800 They will be on the next victim. 0.98

00:18:12.760 He's a psychopath. 0.99

00:18:14.180 And a psychopath is a very manipulative individual. 0.99

00:18:17.820 He's an individual who manages to compartmentalize.

00:18:20.760 In other words, he can separate out what's taking place from his involvement.

00:18:32.980 Then, nothing for three years.

00:18:36.180 But B-T-K was preparing to strike again. 0.63

00:18:41.200 His next victim lived here on Hydraulic Street.

00:18:44.320 She was a mother, along with her children, and she was ill that day.

00:18:53.420 24-year-old Shirley Vianne was at home with her three children that day.

00:19:00.120 He had what he called a hit kit.

00:19:02.020 He brought his own materials.

00:19:04.580 Hit kit.

00:19:05.100 Okay.

00:19:05.760 Who else had a hit kit, guys?

00:19:07.280 Well, Ted Bundy did as well.

00:19:08.300 If you guys go back and watch the podcast I did on Ted Bundy, Ted Bundy used to travel around in his little Volkswagen, right?

00:19:14.320 With, you know, rope, burglar gloves, a crowbar, etc. 0.56

00:19:19.740 All these different types of gadgets and tools to capture his victims and kill them.

00:19:25.620 So, a lot of the times these serial killers have a methodology that they like to use.

00:19:29.280 And a modus of operandi.

00:19:30.840 And, obviously, B-T-K was no different.

00:19:33.820 Rope.

00:19:34.360 I mean, hell, it's in his name. 1.00

00:19:35.880 Bind, torture, kill. 1.00

00:19:37.320 And duct tape to bind the victim. 1.00

00:19:40.460 And a gun to force them into submission.

00:19:43.920 At 11.45 a.m., he was ready to strike.

00:19:56.320 Get in the bedroom! 1.00

00:19:57.920 Get in the bedroom! 1.00

00:19:58.740 Get in the bedroom! 1.00

00:20:01.140 Get in the bedroom! 1.00

00:20:02.900 Get in the bedroom! 1.00

00:20:05.740 He locked the children in the bathroom. 0.74

00:20:10.260 He murdered her by strangling her. 0.68

00:20:13.140 Slowly. 0.98

00:20:13.660 Sexual sadism feeds off of the response to the infliction of physical or emotional pain. 1.00

00:20:24.440 The only act of mercy this fucking asshole gave was not allowing the children to watch what happened to the mother. 1.00

00:20:32.120 It's the only act of mercy. 1.00

00:20:33.260 And he let them live, too. 0.98

00:20:34.480 But, ridiculous. 0.99

00:20:36.900 Craziness, guys. 0.99

00:20:38.620 Extremely important for B-T-K to elicit a response of terror and fear.

00:20:47.080 Then, something happened.

00:20:49.180 He didn't get the phone wire cut.

00:20:51.020 So, the phone rang.

00:20:52.540 It became a panic situation for him.

00:20:55.240 So, he left.

00:20:56.360 The investigators came to me and said, there's a possibility this is tied to the Otero murders.

00:21:12.260 Something else puzzled the chief.

00:21:15.100 Shirley Vianne's son saw the murderer at the door of her neighbor's home earlier in the same day.

00:21:20.920 We never did think that she was the primary target, which turns out she wasn't.

00:21:30.600 Very few people experience in a lifetime being able to say, I was the target of a serial killer,

00:21:38.000 because most people that are targets of serial killers don't live to talk about it.

00:21:44.560 Cheryl Sarkozy and Judy Skirl were roommates back in the late 70s,

00:21:48.580 living just a few doors down from Shirley Vianne.

00:21:52.700 But, on the day of the murder, the women were out. 0.50

00:21:57.040 I came home and the police said that a man had murdered the woman down the street from me.

00:22:02.700 But, previous to him murdering her, he had come to my house and knocked on my door.

00:22:08.500 So, the police believed that I was the intended victim that day.

00:22:12.520 Cheryl had had a lucky escape. 1.00

00:22:19.160 So, he took a crime of opportunity.

00:22:21.140 Escape.

00:22:21.940 But, the roommates think BTK came back the following year.

00:22:26.080 And I can remember turning on the kitchen light as I'm entering the room.

00:22:33.140 And I looked up and I saw a man peeking in the back window.

00:22:38.640 And he turned and walked away.

00:22:41.000 And by then, we had the phone and we had dove underneath the kitchen table for safety.

00:22:46.100 And I tried to call the police.

00:22:48.400 And waited underneath the kitchen table until the sun came up.

00:22:52.340 BTK targeted neighborhoods where he thought he might find women at home, alone.

00:23:01.240 He would troll the area.

00:23:02.440 He would find somebody that looked right to him.

00:23:05.320 And that's how he would target his victims.

00:23:07.380 25-year-old Nancy Fox lived alone, getting home late from working two jobs. 1.00

00:23:13.520 Part of his protection against making mistakes was getting to know his victims, gathering intelligence, where they live, what kind of car they drive, what time they come home.

00:23:30.380 That's an understatement.

00:23:31.520 He would spend months doing this, guys, studying these individuals.

00:23:34.520 On the 8th of December, 1977, Nancy Fox returned home from her job at a jewelry store.

00:23:49.240 Hi, Nancy.

00:23:51.920 Manual and ligature strangulation hanging.

00:23:54.460 These are very slow and agonizing ways to die.

00:23:57.720 Sure.

00:23:58.200 He did take the victims to the brink of death, let them know that they were at the point of death, and that he had allowed them to come back.

00:24:10.780 Tie a little bit tighter.

00:24:12.200 Ted Bundy also used to do this, right?

00:24:13.940 Because it gives you that feeling of being God, where you're able to torture the victim, you know, get them to pass out, go unconscious for a period of time, then bring them back to life.

00:24:23.280 And John Wayne Gacy did this, Ted Bundy did this, and also BTK.

00:24:27.380 It allows them to feel this sense of dominance and power.

00:24:30.480 Jeffrey Dahmer also used to do this as well because he didn't like it when people would leave.

00:24:34.440 If you guys go ahead and watch the podcast, which I've done podcasts on all these serial killers, by the way.

00:24:38.100 But this is one of the underlying things that all these weirdos all share in common.

00:24:41.560 But Dahmer was more on he wanted to, like, own them to a degree, and he didn't want them to leave.

00:24:48.160 Anytime they want to leave, that's when he would commit the murder. 0.98

00:24:49.820 And then the Zodiac Killer also would say, oh, I'm going to kill these people, and they're going to be my slaves in hell or in paradise. 0.75

00:24:57.560 So these guys have a very warped sense of dominance, of belonging, of wanting to feel this strange God complex over the individual. 0.99

00:25:07.360 John Wayne Gacy would do this as well where he would drown them.

00:25:09.760 Or excuse me, they show this in the Jeffrey Dahmer Netflix series where, you know, the guy says, oh, why are you doing this?

00:25:15.840 You know, God, please help me.

00:25:17.260 He's like, I am God, and he drowns him again, right?

00:25:19.180 It's a very graphic scene.

00:25:20.780 So that's what a lot of these weirdos get off on, okay?

00:25:25.640 That method of allowing the victim to revive goes to his playing the role of God.

00:25:30.240 He has within his power life and death over another human being.

00:25:34.560 818 the following morning, police hear the killer's voice.

00:25:48.020 Now, this is where the murder actually happened, guys.

00:25:50.980 It was at 842 Pershing Street.

00:25:54.560 This is where the murder happened back then in 1997 that we just went over.

00:26:02.660 And he actually called the police after this.

00:26:05.900 And this was on December 8, 1977, Nancy Joe Fox.

00:26:08.440 And I'll play a portion of that call.

00:26:12.220 Thank you.

00:26:13.260 Yes.

00:26:13.820 You will find a homicide at 843 South Pershing.

00:26:19.360 You guys hear that?

00:26:20.280 It's a little warped, but basically he's saying you're going to find a homicide at 843 Pershing.

00:26:24.680 I'll play that back for y'all one more time.

00:26:27.220 This is him actually calling the police after the murder.

00:26:29.680 This goes to show the craziness of this dude.

00:26:31.160 So he says you'll find a homicide and he drops to Addie, right?

00:26:49.580 843 South Pershing.

00:26:50.940 And then he actually knows her name, Nancy Joe Fox, because they spoke for a period of time prior to him doing this.

00:26:56.200 For the first time.

00:26:57.500 Yes, Patrick.

00:26:58.260 You will find a homicide at 843 South Pershing.

00:27:04.240 Nancy Joe Fox.

00:27:06.180 Goes to his narcissism.

00:27:07.980 That need for attention.

00:27:09.720 Here I am.

00:27:10.420 I'm calling you to let you know that I did it and you still can't catch me.

00:27:15.620 And they played that call a million times, guys, right?

00:27:19.260 To try to get, hey, you know, does his voice sound like that?

00:27:22.200 Of course, this is the 1970s, so phones weren't as clear back then.

00:27:26.260 Police rushed to the call box.

00:27:28.260 But when they got there, the killer was gone.

00:27:34.540 It's part of his power.

00:27:36.100 It's part of his game that he's playing with the police.

00:27:39.180 Two months later, BTK made his next move.

00:27:42.600 A package arrived at this Wichita TV station.

00:27:49.180 It was a package that contained not only a letter, but a poem.

00:27:54.020 And I have a portion of the poem here.

00:27:55.740 It was tied.

00:27:56.240 This is crazy, guys.

00:27:57.280 So he sends a poem over to the police after he killed Nancy Joe Fox.

00:28:03.520 Oh, death to Nancy. 1.00

00:28:05.880 What is this that I see?

00:28:07.960 Cold, icy hands taking hold of me.

00:28:11.140 For death has come.

00:28:12.320 You all can see.

00:28:13.900 Hell has opened up its gate to trick me.

00:28:17.420 And then it's signed BTK.

00:28:21.640 Bro, holy, this guy is on some demon time. 0.68

00:28:25.580 He said, quote, writing poems about killing people.

00:28:32.860 How about some names for me?

00:28:34.780 I like the following.

00:28:35.960 Some names like the BTK Strangler, the Psycho.

00:28:39.400 And then he continues.

00:28:40.180 He says, Wichita Executioner, the Asphyxiator.

00:28:43.540 The killer claimed to have committed seven murders.

00:28:46.760 The Otero family, Shirley Vian, Nancy Fox, and one unnamed victim.

00:28:52.800 How many do I have to kill before I get my name in the paper or some national attention?

00:28:58.020 I think it's. 0.99

00:29:00.520 How many more do I have to kill to get national attention? 0.86

00:29:04.220 So that speaks to this guy's need for attention. 0.89

00:29:08.360 This line that absolutely stopped everyone in their tracks.

00:29:13.540 BTK's threat to kill again gave police a horrible dilemma.

00:29:17.900 Give the killer the recognition he craved or risk provoking him into another kill.

00:29:23.720 There was a lot of debate in terms of what we should do.

00:29:27.160 Should we give him credit?

00:29:28.380 Should we not give him credit?

00:29:30.020 There's certainly a danger of recognizing the presence of a serial killer within the community

00:29:35.620 and particularly giving him a name.

00:29:37.560 Because now what you've done is you've validated what he's doing.

00:29:40.540 It may, in fact, encourage him to commit more murders.

00:29:45.860 But with us right now is chief.

00:29:47.580 But when you're low on leads, what are you going to do?

00:29:49.780 You need to you need to put the information out to the public for public safety reasons.

00:29:53.440 So they know a lock your doors at night. 1.00

00:29:55.000 There's a fucking crazy guy running around breaking in the homes. 1.00

00:29:57.060 And on top of that, you need leads. 1.00

00:29:58.980 You need potential sources coming for witnesses.

00:30:02.720 So this is the 70s, guys.

00:30:04.700 Police were not as sophisticated back then as they are now with DNA databases, computer systems where they're working together.

00:30:11.020 Back then, it was like old school police detective work where you were on surveillance all day.

00:30:16.940 You may or may not share information with other police departments.

00:30:19.800 You didn't have a database to go ahead and compare other information with unless you went actively and sought it out from other departments.

00:30:25.500 There wasn't a centralized fingerprinting system at this point, really, where it was like clearly being shared.

00:30:32.040 There wasn't DNA.

00:30:33.220 None of this stuff was around.

00:30:34.280 So they had to rely heavily on the community to be able to go ahead and solve these crimes, especially when you got a serial killer where they're going ahead and just killing people for no real motive.

00:30:42.220 There's no background.

00:30:43.320 And it's very difficult to ascertain the link between the killer and the victims, which a lot of the times there is none.

00:30:49.800 Police, Richard Lemonyan.

00:30:51.520 But police decided they had to warn the public.

00:30:54.620 A serial killer was stalking Wichita.

00:30:57.020 Do you see any pattern to BTK's conduct?

00:31:00.160 We have an individual who apparently has the uncontrollable desire to kill at times.

00:31:08.920 Ultimately, I was the one who had to make the decision.

00:31:12.980 Yes, you're smarter than we are.

00:31:15.680 Yes, we recognize who you are.

00:31:18.180 And yes, this is your name.

00:31:20.520 We were convinced that unless we were able to get him communicating, we would have another murder.

00:31:24.840 Chief, what kind of leads do you have?

00:31:27.620 Very honestly, we have no solid leads at all.

00:31:31.240 Using TV, the chief tried to snare BTK with a strange experiment.

00:31:36.640 Subliminal imaging.

00:31:37.600 The subliminal image was one or two frames that was spliced into videotape.

00:31:44.240 And in it, it contained a couple of words.

00:31:47.680 And what the psychological impact of that, we hoped, was that that image would be burned into BTK's brain. 0.90

00:31:53.740 It sounds rather silly now.

00:31:55.360 But 30 years ago, there was some credence to that.

00:31:59.340 Here's what went out on air.

00:32:01.580 Right murder that occurred.

00:32:02.860 Here it is.

00:32:03.960 Slowed 50 times.

00:32:07.400 Called the chief with the upside down glasses.

00:32:10.580 If you guys remember, in his letter, what did he say to the police?

00:32:14.240 Oh, Josephine Otero, the 11-year-old, by the way, that he had killed in his first murder when he invaded that home.

00:32:20.180 He said in his letter, oh, the glasses were left in the bedroom.

00:32:24.360 Okay?

00:32:25.120 So only the killer and the police would know this, which is why they did this.

00:32:28.440 But you guys are going to see here why this was definitely an L for the police.

00:32:34.980 In the Nancy Fox sketch that he sent us was a pair of glasses that was lying upside down.

00:32:42.320 And so what the behavioral science people came up with was a picture with a pair of glasses upside down.

00:32:49.500 And it simply said, call the chief, knowing that he was watching this.

00:32:53.720 That person is going to kill again.

00:32:55.960 It didn't work.

00:32:57.080 He never did communicate with me.

00:32:59.360 Yeah, of course not.

00:33:00.080 He doesn't want to get caught.

00:33:01.640 Not only that, you guys flashed it for like a second on the screen.

00:33:04.520 But, you know, this is 1970s police work here, you know?

00:33:06.900 Ha ha ha!

00:33:19.500 Robert Beattie, a local attorney following the BTK story, felt panic grip the entire city.

00:33:29.680 Women would call the police to come and check their residence. 1.00

00:33:33.220 Night after night, they would go in the house with their guns drawn and flashlight out, searching through the house.

00:33:39.280 So he has them shook in Wichita, man.

00:33:47.700 People are all over the place are calling the police.

00:33:49.420 I think the BTK's in my house!

00:33:51.360 You know, that 911's got to roll out there.

00:33:53.220 Okay, man, this is our 10th call of the week, but it's okay.

00:33:56.300 We'll search anyway, because they're like, oh, what are they going to do?

00:33:59.940 You know, everyone is terrified at this point.

00:34:01.540 People were scared to death that this maniac was going to get them, particularly young women.

00:34:15.700 I put triple locks on all my exterior doors.

00:34:20.180 I put interior locks on our bedroom doors.

00:34:25.780 And even still, I just laid awake all night waiting for this man to come back.

00:34:31.540 How could detectives uncover the killer in their community?

00:35:01.540 New forensic tests were used to examine clothing from the Nancy Fox crime scene.

00:35:07.380 The robe that was submitted from the Nancy Fox scene was processed once we've identified stains at our...

00:35:14.780 He left DNA at that crime scene as well.

00:35:18.240 And it's very strange, because the thing with BTK, guys, and you guys are going to see this a little bit later in some of the confession video...

00:35:24.980 He would masturbate after the murder had been committed.

00:35:27.440 After the person had pretty much been deceased. 0.99

00:35:29.580 So he got like a huge sexual thrill out of killing the individual. 1.00

00:35:34.300 Nancy Fox, he told her, oh, I'm going to have sex with you. 0.99

00:35:36.880 But he never actually did. 1.00

00:35:38.120 But it wasn't until she passed away that he just jerked off and left. 0.61

00:35:42.960 He just busted a nut and left, which is weird, right? 0.87

00:35:46.260 But yeah, that was the ruse that he used with Nancy Jo Fox.

00:35:50.520 He basically broke in.

00:35:52.060 She's like, what the hell are you doing here?

00:35:53.560 Obviously, rightfully so. 0.99

00:35:54.660 He's like, listen, I got a sexual problem. 0.99

00:35:56.780 We're going to bang. 0.99

00:35:58.060 It is what it is.

00:35:59.080 And she's like, well, I want to use the bathroom. 0.97

00:36:00.460 He's like, okay.

00:36:02.020 She goes to use the bathroom.

00:36:03.480 She's like, let's just get this over with.

00:36:04.560 He's like, all right. 0.95

00:36:05.220 So they go into the room and he actually chokes her with a belt and kills her. 0.96

00:36:09.260 He strangles her with the belt.

00:36:10.860 At that point, right? 0.99

00:36:12.460 Because she thought they were just going to have sex.

00:36:13.780 It wasn't going to be, you know, he made it sound like that. 0.85

00:36:16.080 But he killed her. 0.99

00:36:16.800 And then after, you know, he did the masturbation thing. 0.99

00:36:19.760 And then it went on her nightgown. 0.96

00:36:22.320 And that's what he left on the scene.

00:36:24.940 And they preserved it.

00:36:26.240 You know, thankfully, they preserved it for the future.

00:36:29.780 Let's get back into it.

00:36:34.000 Possibly semen.

00:36:35.160 We can use a microscope to look for sperm cells.

00:36:38.940 Scientists could now classify people into two categories, secretors or non-secretors.

00:36:45.100 If you're examining a seminal fluid stain and you're unable to identify a blood group,

00:36:50.680 one conclusion that you could draw is that person is a non-secretor.

00:36:54.680 BTK's blood type was not detectable in his semen. 0.77

00:36:57.540 This made him a non-secretor.

00:37:00.320 This new information made the previous blood typing inconclusive.

00:37:05.500 To narrow down the suspects, the lab carried out a further test on proteins present in the semen called PGM.

00:37:12.040 The perpetrator was a non-secretor that narrows it down to approximately 20 percent of the population.

00:37:19.020 And if on the other hand, you also know that they are a PGM type one and that is expressed by 50 percent of the population.

00:37:26.000 You can combine these two points of information and further narrow it down to about 10 percent of the population.

00:37:32.920 But even with this information, BTK could still be one of more than 15,000 men in Wichita alone.

00:37:41.740 What made it even harder for police was that you guys can see, still don't have refined DNA to be able to pinpoint it into one individual.

00:37:49.840 The BTK left long gaps between murders.

00:37:53.140 It had been three years since his last killings.

00:37:59.040 Every time he makes a mistake, you'll see a period where he will.

00:38:02.240 And just so you guys know what they're talking about when they're talking about gaps and murders.

00:38:05.380 Here we go.

00:38:05.860 Here's a chart right here of all the murders he did.

00:38:07.800 So as you guys can see, first one, January 15, 1974 with the Otero family, right?

00:38:12.840 Then you got Catherine Doreen Bright, which I'm surprised this documentary didn't cover this one.

00:38:17.280 Long story short, the guy, the brader, right? 0.60

00:38:21.040 He was waiting in a home.

00:38:22.720 Doreen Bright shows up.

00:38:24.260 However, she's with her brother.

00:38:26.760 And her and her brother, you know, he ends up showing them both a gun.

00:38:30.820 He ties up the brother and then he goes to attack the sister in the other room.

00:38:36.520 But the brother is able to get himself free and fights Rader, a.k.a. the BTK.

00:38:43.100 And what ends up happening is Rader shoots him in the head.

00:38:46.140 But miraculously, he's able to get out the house and call the police.

00:38:49.960 So Rader at this point is freaking out like, holy crap, what am I going to do?

00:38:52.940 So he ends up, you know, going against what he normally does.

00:38:56.200 And he stabs Doreen Bright, Catherine Doreen Bright.

00:39:01.120 He stabs her and gets the hell out of there.

00:39:02.720 And they weren't able to catch him.

00:39:03.860 And this was in 1974, a couple months later.

00:39:06.300 So obviously this spooks him because he almost got caught.

00:39:08.440 He doesn't kill again.

00:39:10.140 You guys can see here his brother, her brother, Kevin Bright.

00:39:13.420 He escaped.

00:39:13.980 He survived.

00:39:14.940 All right.

00:39:15.420 And then after that, Shirley Ruth Vian Relford, 1977.

00:39:20.180 And then a couple of months later, December 8, 1977.

00:39:23.780 And then he doesn't kill again, guys, until 1985 and then 86 and then 1991.

00:39:28.760 So, you know, this goes to show you guys, you know, the methodicalness of BTK as far as like studying his victims.

00:39:38.720 Which obviously makes it harder for the police.

00:39:41.300 Not take any action at all.

00:39:42.960 After he makes his phone call in the Fox case, his voice is recorded.

00:39:51.140 He's afraid, again, that someone will be able to identify him.

00:39:55.880 Following the murder of Nancy Fox, BTK seemed to go underground again.

00:40:00.460 We know that he was out there selecting victims in preparation for future attacks.

00:40:10.940 As detectives struggled to picture the phantoms stalking their city, BTK was free to kill again.

00:40:17.840 A pattern in BTK's killings, or link.

00:40:30.900 He was known as BTK.

00:40:33.320 Bind.

00:40:34.500 Torture. 1.00

00:40:35.460 Kill.

00:40:35.720 Police searched for a pattern in BTK's killings, or links, between the victims.

00:40:45.760 You guys can see the grid right here as far as the different addresses.

00:40:49.260 And look at the proximity, guys.

00:40:51.020 It's all within maybe a couple miles of each other.

00:40:54.380 Not too far.

00:40:55.060 All in the Wichita metropolitan area.

00:40:57.700 Fell within a small radius.

00:40:59.440 But nothing else appeared to link them.

00:41:01.320 It would be impossible to gauge who his next victim would be.

00:41:06.160 He is totally random, and that would be very difficult for any investigator to try to link those together,

00:41:11.700 because it just depends on what he feels like that day.

00:41:15.060 Police looked again at the evidence in the hope of finding a connection with the killer.

00:41:21.320 The letters sent by BTK were always photocopied to help disguise the typewriter he had used.

00:41:27.640 But unknown to BTK, early photocopied...

00:41:30.420 Hmm, that's smart right there, right?

00:41:33.400 He didn't want...

00:41:34.160 Back then, guys, I know some of you guys are like, 0.96

00:41:35.580 what the fuck is a typewriter? 0.97

00:41:36.820 Yes, guys. 0.99

00:41:37.500 Yes, a typewriter.

00:41:38.580 Use exists.

00:41:39.240 It's when you put a piece of paper in, you type on that bad boy,

00:41:42.880 and then you just, like, it goes...

00:41:44.160 And then you gotta move it back this way, and then type some more.

00:41:47.660 That's what he was using back then.

00:41:49.420 So he tried to disguise it, because other serial killers had also used typewriters,

00:41:53.180 and the police were able to kind of identify what type of typewriter it was typed on

00:41:56.180 based on the font or the way it was made, etc.

00:42:00.420 ...use distinctive paper rolls and toner.

00:42:08.140 Detectives traced the paper from BTK's communications to a machine in this building

00:42:12.800 on the campus of the State University.

00:42:14.960 Police hoped this might pinpoint BTK, but he was not the only one using this machine.

00:42:22.680 Yeah, that makes it tough.

00:42:24.140 The problem is, it was public access.

00:42:27.080 Anybody could put a nickel in.

00:42:28.220 So this detective right here was one of the main investigators involved in the case.

00:42:31.460 He might have been actually the lead detective on this investigation, if I'm not mistaken,

00:42:35.160 back in 2004, 2005, when they eventually caught this guy.

00:42:39.720 And anybody could make a copy there.

00:42:41.600 The photocopier could not reveal BTK's identity.

00:42:44.980 The voice on the recording that came into the dispatcher appeared to be a white male, so we're

00:43:05.580 looking at white males, probably in their age of their 40s.

00:43:08.660 That's correct.

00:43:12.580 But then, in the 1980s, BTK disappeared again.

00:43:17.180 There were no more letters, and the murders seemed to stop.

00:43:21.540 Had he given up?

00:43:22.540 Or was he stalking his next victim?

00:43:26.260 Yeah, mind you, the last one he had committed, guys, we looked at the chart here, it was 1977.

00:43:30.880 So he didn't commit his next one until 1985.

00:43:35.000 So the last one he did was December 8, 1977, with Nancy Jo Fox.

00:43:39.040 We were told all along, serial killers can't stop.

00:43:41.820 You know, we didn't believe that.

00:43:43.260 We believe he did stop.

00:43:44.540 We believe he was here.

00:43:46.420 Police set up a special task force to keep up the hunt for BTK.

00:43:50.180 They had looked at every eccentric, everybody with a sexual offender record, everybody basically

00:43:57.520 with a criminal record.

00:43:58.980 They had looked at them and excluded them.

00:44:01.720 Then, in 1985, after six years of silence, another body was discovered.

00:44:08.100 53-year-old Marine Hedge was found in a ditch on the outskirts of Wichita.

00:44:12.860 She had been strangled.

00:44:14.380 But police could not be sure if this was BTK.

00:44:17.640 He had never moved a victim from their home before.

00:44:23.280 Switching the methods up.

00:44:25.140 Normally, he would break into their home or be waiting there for them when they arrived.

00:44:29.360 So this one is a lot different.

00:44:31.840 He knows that that's going to delay the investigation, that it's going to be worked as a missing person,

00:44:37.240 that she drove away.

00:44:38.600 He didn't want to arouse any suspicions.

00:44:40.340 The murder didn't fit with the killer's normal pattern.

00:44:44.800 It was a discernible ritual, not a discernible MO.

00:44:48.900 Let's define MO.

00:44:50.760 MO are those acts necessary to the commission of the crime.

00:44:54.900 The thing that makes BTK discernible is his ritual.

00:44:58.340 The killer took the body of Mrs. Hedge into an empty church that night

00:45:06.220 to take a series of sexually explicit photographs.

00:45:11.440 And he took her there as a challenge, if you will.

00:45:17.480 He went to God's home, God's house on earth, and desecrated it as part of his belief of how powerful he is.

00:45:28.220 And he took her to his church, guys.

00:45:31.120 And what he did was he took a bunch of pictures of her in bondage.

00:45:35.600 Right?

00:45:35.820 This guy had a crazy infatuation with bondage.

00:45:40.440 Wild.

00:45:41.040 But mind you, he had been studying this woman, right, probably for the better part of a few months,

00:45:52.860 maybe even a few years, because the last crime he committed was in 1977.

00:45:56.140 So it's not until 1985 that he strikes again.

00:45:58.440 So he probably had been doing quite a bit of research,

00:46:00.820 really putting time and effort into being able to do this crime and get away with it.

00:46:05.700 So they can take these greater risks with the confidence that they are so superior,

00:46:16.260 they're not going to be gone.

00:46:20.300 BTK meticulously planned his attacks. 0.69

00:46:23.960 He could wait years to find the right victim.

00:46:26.280 In between attacks, jewellery stolen from previous victims became the focus of BTK's attention.

00:46:39.000 I think he had his trophies.

00:46:40.860 He could relive the crime. 0.99

00:46:42.540 There are ways for a person to satisfy himself, and that's masturbatory fantasies. 0.82

00:46:51.080 So we know he used his trophies.

00:46:53.080 Six years after the murder of Marine Hedge, another body was found.

00:47:02.040 Keeping trophies is very common with serial killers, guys.

00:47:05.100 Or sometimes people like, you know, the Green River serial killer,

00:47:10.020 which I'll cover on another episode, or Ted Bundy,

00:47:11.980 they would go back and revisit the corpses of the individuals they murdered.

00:47:17.040 So, yeah, these guys want to relive their gruesome crimes.

00:47:21.660 62-year-old Dolores Davis was enjoying her retirement in a house on the outskirts of town.

00:47:32.360 As Mrs. Davis slept, someone hurled a concrete block through the glass door of her home.

00:47:37.600 Sounded like a bomb, probably.

00:47:43.840 Not his normal MO either.

00:47:45.640 And I think she jumped out of bed, and, you know, you're trying to get your bearings to figure out what went on.

00:47:51.900 And here's this animal standing there, and then he went ahead and strangled her with her pantyhose. 0.91

00:47:57.640 Police discovered the body under this bridge, 10 miles north of Wichita.

00:48:04.540 But they didn't know just how close the killer was.

00:48:09.280 BTK had set up a complex alibi to ensure he would not become a suspect.

00:48:13.900 It was about a mile and a half away from his house.

00:48:16.720 It said up that he was on a scouting trip because it was close to his house,

00:48:19.880 so he thought he was too close to home that he thought that he might become a suspect.

00:48:26.160 He left no evidence.

00:48:27.880 There were no witnesses.

00:48:30.140 If you have a 10, it's the maximum.

00:48:32.620 Look at that.

00:48:33.180 He went ahead and made a complex alibi, guys.

00:48:36.160 Hey, could have been me.

00:48:37.300 I know it was close to my house or whatever, but it wasn't me because I was doing this, that, and this,

00:48:40.380 and I got three other witnesses, by the way.

00:48:41.700 I was here, guys.

00:48:42.560 I did not kill this woman.

00:48:44.400 So that just goes to show, guys, this is one of the probably the most calculated serial killers

00:48:48.600 as far as, like, studying, planning, preparing, executing, having their tracks covered.

00:48:54.780 BTK is definitely up there as far as being calculated.

00:48:57.660 A lot of these other serial killers, I'll be honest, they get sloppy, man.

00:49:00.000 Reckless.

00:49:02.820 Best organized, then I would say with one being the least organized,

00:49:06.840 and I would say BTK is an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10.

00:49:10.560 I would agree with that.

00:49:11.520 He's probably one of the better organized serial killers by far compared to these other guys.

00:49:17.860 Over 30 years after BTK. 1.00

00:49:19.980 You could be sloppy like John Wayne Gacy and just bury all of them underneath your fucking house. 1.00

00:49:23.560 Like, holy. 1.00

00:49:26.420 And in your backyard.

00:49:28.460 About 33 bodies, I think, no, 26 or 27 bodies, guys, underneath his house and in his backyard.

00:49:35.480 Right?

00:49:35.760 But, yeah.

00:49:37.040 So he definitely was a lot sloppier.

00:49:38.700 BTK had first struck.

00:49:41.140 Ten unsolved murders still haunted the city.

00:49:45.420 In his letter of 1978, the killer had claimed seven attacks.

00:49:49.780 But BTK had remained silent on three more unsolved murders.

00:49:54.020 All leads had come to a dead end.

00:49:59.280 But in 2004, advances in DNA technology provided a breakthrough that would prove crucial.

00:50:05.820 The semen samples from murders BTK carried out...

00:50:10.820 Oh, here we go, guys.

00:50:12.980 Now we're...

00:50:13.820 We fast forward...

00:50:15.760 To the 2000s.

00:50:17.780 Out in the 1970s.

00:50:19.300 We're reanalyzed.

00:50:22.380 Police now had a DNA profile of the killer. 0.99

00:50:25.580 Oh, you fucked up now, Dennis. 1.00

00:50:28.960 You wanted to bust nuts all at the crime scene? 1.00

00:50:31.460 Oh, boy.

00:50:32.480 They got you now. 1.00

00:50:33.440 Gotcha, bitch. 1.00

00:50:35.380 We had the DNA profile of BTK. 0.99

00:50:39.580 However, until we had a profile from a known individual that we can compare that to,

00:50:43.920 we couldn't identify that individual.

00:50:45.860 The only thing that we could exclude is that when we ran the profile through the DNA database,

00:50:52.020 this person was not a convicted offender that had his profile in the database.

00:50:58.500 Then on the 30th anniversary...

00:50:59.860 So they have his DNA, but they know that he hasn't been arrested and or put in the database

00:51:03.680 for any type of real serious felony conviction.

00:51:06.000 Because at this point, guys, you know, they're collecting DNA from a lot of people that are arrested.

00:51:09.120 I mean, hell, when I was an agent, we're collecting DNA from guys who were swabbing them

00:51:12.220 before we brought them over to the marshals, or the marshals will swab them as well.

00:51:15.040 So, DNA collection is a relatively new thing.

00:51:19.060 The anniversary of BTK's first attack came news of an upcoming book saying that BTK was history.

00:51:26.320 I thought, this guy is probably dead.

00:51:29.040 It started as an academic educational exercise.

00:51:32.920 But there was a point when I realized that this might actually flesh out the killer.

00:51:39.260 If he is still out there, we may hear from him.

00:51:42.140 That was a challenge to BTK.

00:51:45.960 I'm still here.

00:51:47.580 You know, I'm still omnipresent, if you will.

00:51:50.560 I'm everywhere.

00:51:52.840 March 19th, 2004.

00:51:55.660 A letter arrived here claiming credit for a brutal, unsolved murder in 1986.

00:52:01.540 The victim, 28-year-old Vicky Wedderley.

00:52:09.060 The signature was all too familiar.

00:52:12.520 There was no doubt that it was...

00:52:14.020 Bam.

00:52:14.760 So he lets them know, guys!

00:52:17.520 I ain't going nowhere!

00:52:19.360 I'm still here.

00:52:20.280 Matter of fact, let me give you guys an unsolved murder and let you guys know who the real culprit was. 1.00

00:52:26.780 You stupid police couldn't even catch me on this one. 0.99

00:52:28.860 And he signs it with his initials. 1.00

00:52:30.800 His need for the clout was so goddamn strong that he had to come back 20-plus years later to claim credit for a murder that the police never even knew about. 0.92

00:52:40.060 It was a genuine communication. 0.95

00:52:42.060 We were going to work the case that it was BTK.

00:52:44.720 And that we were going to catch him this time.

00:52:46.120 The strategy was to keep him talking because the problem we'd had before was that we'd get a letter from him and then we would not hear from him for another three or four years.

00:52:57.940 So we wanted the frequency of the communications to increase.

00:53:02.860 Police could not risk BTK going underground again.

00:53:06.220 And it was critical that we set up a bond between Lieutenant Landwehr and this killer.

00:53:13.440 Because, guys, they had not heard from him or his last murder had not occurred since 1991 at that point. 0.99

00:53:18.620 So when it hit 2004, they're like, oh, shit! 0.92

00:53:21.800 At this point, the FBI told us that it was very possible that the killer could become obsessed with that person and possibly target them or their family. 0.98

00:53:32.360 This was the worst time of my life.

00:53:34.720 I was, you know, I was terrified that this guy was maybe going to come after my family or somebody or kill someone else in this community.

00:53:43.580 And it was going to be on my watch.

00:53:45.260 We were very, very careful to never say anything that might challenge him, anything that he might perceive as belittling.

00:53:58.140 We did not want to set this man off.

00:54:00.840 We did not want to upset him in any way.

00:54:03.300 This is one of the most challenging cases that I've ever been involved with.

00:54:08.680 And I find that the individual that is doing this would be very interesting to talk to.

00:54:15.280 I'm not talking to the press.

00:54:17.060 I'm not talking to the public.

00:54:19.000 I'm talking to BTK.

00:54:20.720 And I want BTK to understand that.

00:54:22.540 He finally got the notoriety that he had always craved.

00:54:25.960 The residents of Wichita felt the fear of over 30 years ago grip the city again.

00:54:32.280 The hunt was on for BTK.

00:54:34.480 BTK responded to Lieutenant Landwehr's appeals in a series of notes and packages, often inside cereal boxes, marked BTK.

00:54:48.040 He sent a bound and hung doll, a chilling reference to young Josefino Taro. 0.94

00:54:54.080 Bro, this guy, crazy. 0.97

00:54:58.420 Demon time for real.

00:54:59.620 And I'll show you guys some of these evidence photos right here of him sending these things to the police, right?

00:55:07.280 Here you guys can see this is the doll hooked to the pipe to reference, you know, Josefine when she was killed.

00:55:15.280 This is the cereal box that he had, right?

00:55:19.140 Cereal killer. 0.96

00:55:20.000 Get it?

00:55:20.880 Right?

00:55:21.400 Sick joke.

00:55:22.860 And then this is some other more graphic stuff.

00:55:25.460 But, yeah, man, wild stuff.

00:55:27.900 And let's go back.

00:55:29.680 I got another clip to show y'all as well.

00:55:32.860 But even more sinister, BTK revealed his plans to kill again.

00:55:39.600 All right.

00:55:40.060 So, obviously, this drives the police into overdrive because they're like, yo, is this guy going to go ahead and kill someone else?

00:55:47.040 Like, what's going on here?

00:55:47.980 And the fastest way to get a police department motivated, guys, is to go ahead and say that you're going to hurt children.

00:55:53.580 All right.

00:55:54.180 So, let's go ahead.

00:55:55.960 And I got this documentary here from Netflix.

00:55:59.260 Okay.

00:55:59.400 Hopefully, I don't get hit with a copyright too bad.

00:56:01.980 Right?

00:56:02.440 So, this is – we'll play a portion from here that covers this angle as well.

00:56:06.840 You're just pressing all the buttons to get a police department fired up.

00:56:10.620 Thanks.

00:56:10.980 I'll tell you guys this.

00:56:14.900 I remember one time I got a case that had to do with a kidnapped child.

00:56:18.680 And I worked all night that night.

00:56:20.620 I remember I did not go to sleep until we found out where the hell she was.

00:56:24.180 And it's a very satisfying thing.

00:56:26.280 You know, it's a very satisfying feeling to help a child.

00:56:32.260 Right?

00:56:32.360 There's no better satisfaction than that.

00:56:34.240 And I'll tell y'all this, man.

00:56:35.440 As an investigator, there's no better fuel.

00:56:37.100 You don't sleep.

00:56:37.760 You're like, yo, there's a kid missing.

00:56:39.460 We got to get this done.

00:56:40.540 And I'm not sleeping until we figure this out.

00:56:42.940 So, I can speak for personal experience as to how that motivates you.

00:56:49.540 I drove to the Home Depot to see if we could recover the other package.

00:56:54.460 We really didn't know what we were looking for.

00:56:57.460 There's that detective again I told you guys about.

00:56:59.040 We went all over that store.

00:57:02.760 And just did not find anything.

00:57:06.880 So, we put a sign there to ask anybody if they saw anything unusual.

00:57:10.540 Our greatest concern is that it had been found and disposed of.

00:57:14.540 That people didn't recognize what it was.

00:57:16.400 And somebody just thrown it away.

00:57:17.380 And she said that they had had a phone call from a gentleman and that he was an employee of Home Depot.

00:57:31.840 Okay, so this is where he left the cereal box, guys, that I showed you guys a picture of before.

00:57:39.300 He recalled finding something suspicious in the bed of his pickup truck, which was parked in the parking lot.

00:57:45.140 I called him and I asked him what it was that he thought was suspicious.

00:57:47.940 And he said, well, it was a cereal box.

00:57:49.560 I said, well, where is that now?

00:57:53.580 And he said, I have it on my kitchen table. 0.99

00:57:57.660 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:57:58.520 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:57:59.180 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:58:01.800 Inside, there was another note. 1.00

00:58:04.540 See, as you guys can see, he's just having fun with this, right?

00:58:07.540 He knows to the police, leaving cereal boxes around, you know, thinking this is a game.

00:58:12.140 You know, of course, he doesn't realize that in 2004, at this point, the police are a lot more sophisticated and they have his DNA.

00:58:19.960 So he doesn't know this.

00:58:25.020 Okay.

00:58:26.020 All right.

00:58:27.200 You ready?

00:58:28.200 All right.

00:58:28.520 He's about to read the letter, guys.

00:58:31.120 Let's get into it.

00:58:35.080 Can I communicate with Floppy and not be traced to a computer?

00:58:39.840 Be honest.

00:58:43.540 I will try a floppy for a test run sometime in the near future, February or March.

00:58:50.440 Bam.

00:58:51.560 Let's go back to the other one.

00:58:55.120 And that will make more sense for you guys.

00:58:58.060 But I wanted to run that Home Depot once you guys kind of got the full context there of them picking up the packages because he had sent a couple other packages prior.

00:59:06.620 Actually, let me go back here so you guys get the full picture.

00:59:09.960 He really thought this was a game.

00:59:13.080 That was the Home Depot.

00:59:17.000 He would send notes.

00:59:18.200 I drove up to North Seneca to collect the first package.

00:59:31.080 This was a secluded area.

00:59:34.340 The road was sand and dirt and leaning up against the street sign.

00:59:41.300 There's a post-Toasties cereal box.

00:59:47.420 So...

00:59:48.200 And just so you guys get an idea here, North Seneca to Wichita, okay, is up north.

00:59:56.300 It's north, north Wichita area.

00:59:58.420 About 10 miles.

01:00:01.440 So he would drop these packages off in rural areas.

01:00:05.400 Cereal box for a serial killer, I guess.

01:00:08.160 With notes.

01:00:08.480 Inside it was a cheap doll.

01:00:14.320 And that's how they find...

01:00:16.320 Tied to a super-spin-o tarot.

01:00:19.300 It was taken to heart by everybody on the task force.

01:00:22.380 All right.

01:00:23.500 So, let's go back.

01:00:28.160 I've spotted a female that I think lives alone. 1.00

01:00:31.880 Just got to work out the details.

01:00:33.720 I'm much older now.

01:00:36.380 And I have to condition myself carefully.

01:00:40.100 Got to do it this year or next.

01:00:42.020 Time is running out for me.

01:00:48.300 He makes a threat that he has found someone.

01:00:51.240 And we made sure that the public knew.

01:00:55.120 This is serious.

01:00:56.280 Don't trust anybody.

01:00:57.340 I can see the fear in their eyes.

01:01:01.520 And when the most important people in an investigation are that scared,

01:01:06.240 it's a scary feeling for everyone.

01:01:08.680 For 10 months, police play a game of cat and mouse with BTK.

01:01:13.500 Until the killer's urge to communicate leads to a critical mistake.

01:01:18.840 He leaves a package in an open flatbed truck outside a Wichita hardware store.

01:01:24.620 Which we know it's Home Depot from the other documentary.

01:01:28.960 A parking lot covered by security cameras.

01:01:33.780 Detectives prepared to analyze more than 2,000 hours of footage in a race against time.

01:01:42.880 A vehicle comes into the lot.

01:01:46.060 It does kind of a loop and it pulls next to the truck.

01:01:50.660 He pulls something out from his vehicle.

01:01:56.440 See it right there in this area right here, guys.

01:01:59.100 Places it behind the cab of the truck and then gets back in his vehicle and pulls away.

01:02:04.800 The pictures wouldn't identify BTK, but could they pinpoint his vehicle?

01:02:10.420 Forensic experts analyzed the image.

01:02:12.560 By measuring the size, volume, and ground clearance, as well as the paintwork shade of the vehicle,

01:02:19.220 detectives made a crucial discovery.

01:02:22.980 BTK drove a black Jeep Cherokee.

01:02:26.000 Holy bro. 1.00

01:02:28.240 BTK is not 1974, it's 2004 now, motherfucker. 1.00

01:02:31.900 They gotcha. 1.00

01:02:33.340 Oh, man.

01:02:35.840 L for him.

01:02:37.380 You know what I mean?

01:02:37.860 This is the era of surveillance cameras, my friend.

01:02:41.880 And as you guys know, this is where he left that cereal box with that note about the floppy disk,

01:02:46.700 which I showed you guys before.

01:02:48.180 So that's how they were able to, you know, conclusively prove, okay, BTK drove this vehicle

01:02:54.920 because we see him on surveillance camera putting this cereal box with this note on this vehicle.

01:03:00.780 And then that's when this came forward and said, I have this cereal box.

01:03:03.160 And I showed you guys that from the other documentary.

01:03:05.040 That's why I had to combine the two so you guys can get full context here.

01:03:07.680 Shout out to Fetit.

01:03:10.880 Because this documentary didn't properly explain that part.

01:03:13.100 So I had to make sure that I included that in there for you.

01:03:18.260 In the message left at the hardware store,

01:03:20.180 the killer asks if a computer floppy disk can be traced back to the computer which author did.

01:03:26.100 If police promised it couldn't, he'd send future messages that way.

01:03:30.660 He felt himself in such a powerful position.

01:03:36.320 And the police were so dependent upon him for information that they couldn't possibly lie to him.

01:03:43.800 But police weren't playing by BTK's rules.

01:03:47.460 They set a trap using a newspaper advert.

01:03:50.880 He wants us to answer in code.

01:03:53.140 He says, Rex, it will be okay.

01:03:55.260 So he told them to message me basically like on a part.

01:04:00.140 And I know you guys will play, what the hell?

01:04:01.780 In a newspaper, guys.

01:04:03.020 So they went ahead and responded via newspaper to him.

01:04:06.120 And they referred to him by his codename, which was Rex, saying, let me know if I can communicate with you guys on floppy.

01:04:11.080 So this was how the police responded to him.

01:04:12.920 And they gave him a PO box so that no one in the public would know who they're actually communicating with.

01:04:17.460 And he was able to see it without necessarily being implicated as well.

01:04:21.420 So that's how they respond.

01:04:23.540 The police go, Rex, it will be okay.

01:04:25.180 It will be okay.

01:04:26.760 Stop the cow. 1.00

01:04:27.680 The police was lying, boy.

01:04:30.440 The chances of him falling for that, you know, we didn't think.

01:04:35.920 We didn't think that that was a possibility.

01:04:38.760 I don't think anyone could ever believe that we were that lucky.

01:04:43.720 BTK had made a favor.

01:04:45.460 We always have a saying in law enforcement, guys, right?

01:04:48.000 I always just joke around with other agents when I was working. 0.99

01:04:50.200 And they always said, we only catch the dumb ones. 0.99

01:04:52.800 And in this case, BTK. 1.00

01:04:55.040 Stupid. 1.00

01:04:55.860 Committing crimes as a serial killer as if it's 1974 when it's really 2004. 1.00

01:05:01.180 He's using 1974 tactics in a modern day. 1.00

01:05:05.840 And that's how they got his ass. 0.99

01:05:07.700 Let's get back into it. 0.99

01:05:09.440 The disc he sent was rushed to the forensics team.

01:05:14.680 Could such a simple trap have finally snared BTK?

01:05:18.080 Microsoft embeds in many of his documents something called metadata.

01:05:23.260 And that metadata is information about the file.

01:05:26.400 You can access that by going to file properties.

01:05:30.840 And as you can see here, the software that was registered to Christ Lutheran Church.

01:05:36.480 And that's the church that he brought that other victim to, by the way.

01:05:39.220 This church is just north of Wichita.

01:05:45.040 But how could it possibly be linked to a serial killer?

01:05:49.180 In addition to that, we can see that the document was last saved by a person named Dennis.

01:05:56.100 After 31 years.

01:05:57.940 Bro, holy. 1.00

01:06:01.100 Gotcha, bitch. 1.00

01:06:02.300 They finally got a fucking name. 1.00

01:06:04.540 And here, by the way, guys, is where Christ Lutheran Church is. 1.00

01:06:07.580 Right?

01:06:07.800 Actually, let me just bring this whole thing over here for y'all.

01:06:10.680 This is where Christ Lutheran Church is in relation to Wichita.

01:06:14.200 So you guys can see.

01:06:15.940 Northern Wichita.

01:06:17.560 And then this is the actual floppy disk, which got him bagged up.

01:06:22.480 What happened next was so quick, so simple.

01:06:30.820 It's hard to believe.

01:06:33.280 We came up with a website for Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita.

01:06:37.840 And on that home page, there's a link to people who are related to the church.

01:06:41.760 So when you click on that link, it brings up the page.

01:06:44.840 It has the president of the congregation was Dennis Raider. 0.99

01:06:49.480 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:06:50.240 Actives rushed to Dennis Raider's house. 1.00

01:06:54.300 They still had to check out one vital detail.

01:06:58.440 As we came down the street here, we saw that there was a black Jeep Cherokee in the driveway.

01:07:05.680 And it was just a huge rush of energy because the thing about the Cherokee was it was the one piece of evidence that he didn't know we had.

01:07:14.420 Even with the Jeep, the evidence was circumstantial.

01:07:17.880 So obviously, fishy cry.

01:07:19.400 Lieutenant Landwehr ordered detectives to hold off as lieutenant.

01:07:24.420 And he had a good reason for it, even though I know that, you know, at this point they want to put him in jail.

01:07:28.020 But this is where the house is, guys.

01:07:29.700 It's this address, 6220 Independence Street.

01:07:32.820 As you guys can see, it's actually been been knocked down.

01:07:35.940 It no longer exists.

01:07:37.460 But this is where his home used to be.

01:07:39.200 I bring them all back.

01:07:44.220 I say, no, I wanted to be sure.

01:07:46.740 And I wanted to get some DNA.

01:07:48.740 Police needed to link Dennis Raider's DNA with that of the killer.

01:07:52.660 Which I'll be honest, that was a very smart call.

01:07:54.820 You guys got the DNA.

01:07:55.680 You got the guy, the probable suspect identified.

01:07:58.980 Why not go in and make sure you know 100% you got your guy so that you don't build a weak case?

01:08:03.480 By secretly accessing medical records, they obtained the DNA profile of Raider's daughter.

01:08:11.820 They wanted to establish if BTK was in fact.

01:08:15.440 So they went and got his daughter's DNA.

01:08:17.760 The father of this individual.

01:08:20.040 It's fair to say that you could exclude over 99% of the population with these paternity tests.

01:08:25.600 DNA from the crime scenes and Raider's daughter proved BTK and Dennis Raider were the same man.

01:08:34.260 Got him. 1.00

01:08:35.060 Gotcha, bitch. 1.00

01:08:35.860 And also, here's his daughter, guys. 1.00

01:08:38.100 And she talks about this, how they identified him through her.

01:08:45.260 At one time, the original title of that file was Christ Lutheran Church.

01:08:50.000 And the person last using it was someone logged into a computer under the name Dennis.

01:08:59.020 Bam, there he is.

01:09:01.860 But investigators still needed proof positive that church president Dennis Raider was BTK.

01:09:09.240 He looks like the guy next door.

01:09:10.800 So you wouldn't think, is this guy the one running around killing people, 0.99

01:09:13.260 biting them and sending these crazy-ass letters? 0.99

01:09:15.280 So they had to be sure, of course. 0.98

01:09:16.860 They got it from his daughter.

01:09:20.000 So I was online.

01:09:21.820 And CNN, all of a sudden, is saying, like, local Wichita news are reporting that Carrie turned in her father

01:09:28.140 and gave a blood sample.

01:09:30.800 So I was like, what?

01:09:32.700 I knew I hadn't turned in my dad, and I knew I hadn't given blood.

01:09:35.800 A couple weeks later, it came out in the news that the Wichita police and KBI had gone.

01:09:43.680 Once they thought they knew my dad, which I was pretty sure it was my dad,

01:09:47.600 they got a warrant for my medical records at K-State.

01:09:51.660 Carrie had graduated from K-State.

01:09:54.140 And while there, had tests at health services, both a pap smear and a biopsy.

01:10:00.000 Investigators traveled to Manhattan with a subpoena in hand for those smears.

01:10:04.280 Her DNA, a direct match to DNA left at BTK crime scenes.

01:10:11.840 I'm not learning.

01:10:12.800 And that's how they got them.

01:10:14.180 From the people that did it, and I'm not learning it privately.

01:10:18.660 I'm learning it from CNN.

01:10:20.280 How did you feel about that?

01:10:21.900 Really violated and really just mainly violated and embarrassed that now,

01:10:27.820 like the national news is talking about, like the most private female test. 1.00

01:10:33.120 You talk to your father and... 0.92

01:10:35.580 Yeah, because he left those, left semen at the crime scene.

01:10:38.300 So they were able to go ahead and compare it and get them,

01:10:40.480 which actually really smart by the police to do that.

01:10:43.380 Armed with this data, police were poised to strike.

01:10:47.840 Shortly after 12 noon on February 25th, 2005,

01:10:51.900 Dennis Rader headed home for lunch.

01:10:59.520 Out of the car!

01:11:00.560 Get your hands up!

01:11:01.780 Hands up!

01:11:02.440 Out of the car now!

01:11:03.720 Let's go!

01:11:05.100 Keep them in the air! 0.84

01:11:05.980 Let's go!

01:11:11.540 Dennis Rader, you're under arrest!

01:11:13.600 It was kind of fun, to be honest with you.

01:11:15.580 Every police officer since 1974 has wished for the day that I got right there.

01:11:21.900 It was a great, great feeling of relief.

01:11:31.260 Great feeling.

01:11:31.780 I can't remember a better feeling in my life.

01:11:36.980 The bottom line, DTK is arrested.

01:11:40.200 They gave that...

01:11:46.120 That's a Don DeMarco right there.

01:11:48.700 The guy terrorized the place for three decades almost.

01:11:52.580 Well, no, three decades, 1974, and they caught him in 0405, so over 30 years.

01:11:56.380 All of fear hanging over Wichita had lifted.

01:11:59.900 BTK was captured.

01:12:01.780 But just how much would he reveal?

01:12:04.400 At BTK's trial, chilling details of 30 years of killing would shock the nation.

01:12:10.180 It was Dennis Rader.

01:12:18.280 But what would he reveal to the police?

01:12:20.340 Dennis Rader, you're under arrest!

01:12:22.340 I know.

01:12:22.820 So basically, you.

01:12:23.760 All right, so here's that lieutenant that you guys saw during the documentary, and this

01:12:26.720 is an FBI agent, and they did this on purpose to appease his ego.

01:12:30.380 They know that he's a cloud chaser, so they bring in a higher-ranking detective, an FBI

01:12:34.920 agent, and they kind of want to get him to claim the credit for his crimes.

01:12:42.760 This is the actual footage of Rader's 30-hour interrogation.

01:12:47.420 At first, he stonewalled.

01:12:50.620 Then, three hours in, Lieutenant Landwehr played his ace, the DNA.

01:12:56.520 I know that BTK is the father of your children.

01:13:01.260 I know BTK is the father of your children.

01:13:03.820 Oh, Lord. 1.00

01:13:04.920 Gotcha, bitch! 1.00

01:13:06.840 I'm here, children. 1.00

01:13:08.340 I know that.

01:13:10.220 No doubt.

01:13:11.500 It's a done deal.

01:13:12.420 The tests were done. 1.00

01:13:14.600 He's thinking back to all those times he busted nuts at those crime scenes like, fuck. 1.00

01:13:18.860 God damn it, they fucking got me. 1.00

01:13:20.360 I was so stupid. 1.00

01:13:21.960 Say who you are. 1.00

01:13:23.240 Why don't you just say it?

01:13:24.760 BTK.

01:13:25.660 You're BTK.

01:13:26.580 So he says, just say it.

01:13:27.500 Who are you?

01:13:28.520 Say what you are.

01:13:29.420 And he whispers it.

01:13:30.500 BTK.

01:13:30.940 The strategy of winning Rader's trust had been a spectacular success.

01:13:38.600 He honestly believes that, you know, he's the fox, we're the hounds.

01:13:44.560 I mean, I'm serious.

01:13:45.440 He thinks that we're going to come after him, and that's part of the chase, and he's going

01:13:49.300 to escape, and then we're going to come after him again.

01:13:51.420 And now that we've caught him, we're all good buddies.

01:13:58.380 On 27th of June, 2005, Dennis Rader began the most chilling courtroom confession ever

01:14:05.760 heard, as he coldly revealed secrets he'd kept for over 30 years.

01:14:10.160 First degree in count two, a class A felony.

01:14:12.860 How he killed the Otero family in 1974.

01:14:15.300 First of all, Mr. Otero was strangled, or a bag foot over his head, and strangled.

01:14:21.140 Well, I want you guys to look at how matter-of-fact he speaks about these heinous crimes, all right?

01:14:26.300 And his body language, his tonality, the way he speaks, the detail that he's able to recall.

01:14:32.860 Then I thought he was going down, and I went over and strangled Mrs. Otero, and I thought

01:14:39.500 she was down, then I strangled Junior, and then when I went back, Josephine had walked back 0.85

01:14:46.900 up.

01:14:48.160 What did you do then?

01:14:49.200 I took her to the basement, and eventually hung her.

01:14:53.800 All right, you hung her in the basement? 0.80

01:14:55.500 Yes, sir.

01:14:56.700 All right, did you do anything else at that time? 0.96

01:14:59.060 Yes, I had some sexual fantasies, but that was after she was hung.

01:15:04.300 One of the problems that the public had... 1.00

01:15:09.820 He masturbated is what he did. 0.96

01:15:10.960 That's how they were able to find semen on the floor at that crime scene, which they were 0.98

01:15:15.000 eventually able to link.

01:15:16.220 Yes, in dealing with serial offenders.

01:15:18.380 They can't quite get over the fact that almost invariably they look like us.

01:15:24.940 And here's another thing, too.

01:15:25.860 I want to kind of show you guys a little bit more about how chilling some of these confessions

01:15:29.520 were.

01:15:30.500 Okay, this is his killing of Shirley Vienne.

01:15:34.300 Okay, this is Nancy Fox.

01:15:35.860 If you guys remember, Nancy Fox is when he killed her December 8, 1977, and he broke 0.94

01:15:41.520 into the house, and he said, oh, yeah, we're just going to have sex. 0.78

01:15:44.260 And look at what he did. 0.97

01:15:45.820 That you unlawfully killed a human being, that being Nancy Fox, maliciously, willfully, deliberately,

01:15:51.780 and with premeditation by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which the said Nancy Fox

01:15:57.940 did die on December 8, 1977.

01:16:01.100 Can you tell me what you did on that day?

01:16:04.300 Here in the central county.

01:16:05.600 Nancy Fox was another one of the projects when I was trolling the area. 0.69

01:16:12.720 So he refers to her as a project and says when I was strolling the area.

01:16:16.180 I used her to go in the house one night.

01:16:20.040 Sometimes I would.

01:16:21.520 Anyway, I put her down as a potential victim. 1.00

01:16:24.520 Let me ask you one thing, Mr. Grader.

01:16:26.440 You used that term when you were...

01:16:27.800 So he was taking notes.

01:16:29.100 You were trolling the area.

01:16:30.420 What do you mean by that?

01:16:32.340 It's called stalking or trolling.

01:16:35.440 So you were not working in any form or fashion?

01:16:38.940 Well, I don't know.

01:16:40.180 If you read much about serial killers, they go through what they call the different phases.

01:16:46.780 That's one of the phases they go through as a trolling stage.

01:16:50.160 Basically, you're looking for a victim at that time.

01:16:52.740 And you could be trolling for months or years.

01:16:55.920 But once you lock in on a certain person, then you become stalking.

01:16:58.740 And that might be several of them, but you really hone in on that person.

01:17:02.600 They basically become the...

01:17:04.960 That's the victim.

01:17:06.820 That's what you want to be.

01:17:09.660 That explains the gaps in his crimes, because he was spending a significant amount of time watching these individuals.

01:17:15.160 Here's defense counsel telling him, hey, chill out, Brad. 0.98

01:17:19.240 Shut the hell up. 0.96

01:17:20.220 No, I wasn't working, sir. 0.99

01:17:22.840 No, this was off my hours.

01:17:27.660 All right.

01:17:27.960 So you basically...

01:17:29.960 What her name was, found out where she worked, stopped by there once at Hillsborough.

01:17:38.360 The more I knew about a person, the more I felt comfortable with it.

01:17:43.400 So I did that a couple of times.

01:17:45.320 And then I just selected a night, which was this particular night, to try it.

01:17:50.500 And it worked out.

01:17:52.160 All right.

01:17:52.680 Can you tell me what you did?

01:17:54.180 And it worked out.

01:17:55.000 On the night of December 8th, 1977.

01:17:58.560 About two or three blocks away, I parked my car and walked to that residence.

01:18:02.640 I knocked at the door first to make sure to see if anybody was in there, because I knew she arrived home at a particular time from where she worked.

01:18:11.080 Nobody answered the door, so I went around the back of the house, kept the phone lines.

01:18:15.240 I could tell that there wasn't anybody in the North Department, broke in, and waited for her to come home in the kitchen. 0.97

01:18:24.060 All right.

01:18:24.680 Did she come home?

01:18:25.740 Yes, she did.

01:18:26.620 What happened? 0.99

01:18:27.660 I confronted her, told her there I had a problem, sexual problem, that I would have to tie her up and have sex. 1.00

01:18:35.940 So he goes ahead and gets the trust. 0.99

01:18:37.720 Hey, I just have sexual problems. 0.98

01:18:39.020 We're going to have sex, and that's all it is. 0.99

01:18:40.500 I'm going to tie you up, though, because that's what turns me on. 0.98

01:18:46.040 She was a little upset.

01:18:48.920 We talked for a while.

01:18:50.220 Yeah, I'd be mad, too. 1.00

01:18:51.460 Goddamn. 1.00

01:18:52.040 Broke my house. 1.00

01:18:52.760 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:18:53.060 Just so you know, we're going to have to have sex. 0.99

01:18:55.020 I got a problem. 1.00

01:18:56.280 She smoked a cigarette.

01:18:58.560 While we smoked a cigarette, I went through her purse, identifying some stuff.

01:19:03.880 She finally said, well, let's get this over with so I can go call the police.

01:19:07.260 I said, okay.

01:19:08.480 And she said, can I go to the bathroom?

01:19:09.920 And I said, yes.

01:19:11.440 She went to the bathroom. 0.99

01:19:14.620 Let's get this over with so I can call the police.

01:19:16.580 I'm going to go to the bathroom.

01:19:17.560 I'll be back.

01:19:18.020 She came out to make sure that she was undressed.

01:19:22.380 When she came out, I handcuffed her.

01:19:25.840 And I don't really remember that.

01:19:29.200 You handcuffed her? 0.89

01:19:30.040 You had a pair of handcuffs?

01:19:31.140 Yes, sir.

01:19:33.120 Remember, you had that toolkit.

01:19:34.180 I handcuffed her.

01:19:35.760 I had to lay on the bed.

01:19:36.900 And then I tied her feet. 0.99

01:19:39.200 And I was also undressed to a certain degree.

01:19:44.360 And then I got on top of her.

01:19:46.980 And then I reached over.

01:19:48.660 Either feet were tied or not tied.

01:19:51.180 Anyway, I think I had a belt.

01:19:52.580 I took the belt and then strangled her with a belt. 1.00

01:19:54.680 I took that time. 0.57

01:19:55.980 All right.

01:19:57.940 All right.

01:19:58.380 After you had strangled her, what happened then?

01:20:00.820 Okay.

01:20:01.860 After I strangled her with a belt, I took the belt off and retied that with pantyhose real tight. 1.00

01:20:06.300 I removed the handcuffs and tied those with pantyhose.

01:20:13.320 I can't remember the colors right now.

01:20:15.460 I think I maybe retied her feet. 1.00

01:20:16.780 He's thinking of colors.

01:20:17.660 And like he's running through his head.

01:20:19.460 You guys can see here that he's literally running the murder in his head.

01:20:22.680 And he's like, he's going to get such detail.

01:20:24.260 He's like, you know, I can't remember the color right now.

01:20:25.700 Not that that even matters.

01:20:26.940 He's like, I don't remember the color.

01:20:27.840 But let me tell you all about this.

01:20:29.580 So you could see him just reliving it.

01:20:31.320 Mind you guys, this is in 2004, 2005 now when they're asking him this.

01:20:35.360 He committed this crime in 1977.

01:20:37.220 And they were probably already tied her feet were. 0.97

01:20:42.960 And at that time, masturbated, sir. 0.98

01:20:46.220 All right. 0.99

01:20:47.440 At that time, I masturbated, sir. 0.99

01:20:49.300 Had you had sexual relations with her? 0.99

01:20:51.400 No, no, no.

01:20:52.560 I told her I was, but I did not.

01:20:54.580 So he didn't even have sex with her, guys. 1.00

01:20:57.040 So you masturbated. 0.99

01:20:58.320 Then what did you do? 0.99

01:21:01.240 Dressed and then went to the house, took some of her personal items.

01:21:04.680 And I cleaned the house up, went through it, and they checked everything.

01:21:07.220 And then left.

01:21:10.220 All right.

01:21:13.680 Demon time.

01:21:17.840 Yeah.

01:21:18.420 So you guys could see, man, he didn't even have sex with her. 0.97

01:21:20.520 He said he was going to have sex with her. 0.86

01:21:21.500 That's probably what calmed her down a little bit. 0.99

01:21:23.740 Right? 0.96

01:21:24.700 And he just basically choked her out, let her die. 1.00

01:21:28.580 Once she died, he masturbated and then left the semen at the scene. 1.00

01:21:32.080 Right? 1.00

01:21:32.460 Very stupidly, might I add. 1.00

01:21:34.840 And then left. 1.00

01:21:37.220 We don't want our perverts to look like us.

01:21:41.480 But I wanted you guys to see that testimony to see the type of individual he was, how matter of fact he is, how, you know, he was diagnosed with a bunch of disorders, which OCD was one of them.

01:21:52.220 This mask of normality was BTK's disguise.

01:21:56.480 He was a family man with a wife and two kids.

01:22:03.040 But this dad was a little different.

01:22:07.300 By the time he had two children, he tortured seven people to death.

01:22:12.980 This was the one part of his life that signified the amount of power that he had.

01:22:22.300 He craved power.

01:22:24.300 BTK's wife, Paula, sang in the church choir.

01:22:27.180 He helped run the Boy Scouts.

01:22:31.540 So his wife sang in the choir.

01:22:33.860 He was in the church.

01:22:35.400 He ran the Boy Scouts.

01:22:36.640 He was a Boy Scout himself, by the way, in his childhood, guys.

01:22:38.700 So this was a regular American guy.

01:22:41.040 Grew up in a two-parent household.

01:22:43.340 Didn't really show too many signs of being a weirdo besides killing animals as a child, which a lot of serial killers do.

01:22:49.720 But, yeah, typical American upbringing, born in 1945.

01:22:55.500 And, yeah, that's why this was so crazy, because he's like an everyday American guy doing this stuff.

01:23:01.420 He could look like your neighbor next door.

01:23:05.280 He'd chosen the ideal job for a murderer, touring Wichita, installing locks and security alarms in people's houses.

01:23:13.240 Did you imagine that, a serial killer that does alarm systems and locks?

01:23:16.840 Holy, bro, no wonder he was so prepared. 1.00

01:23:20.020 Oh, shit, oh, shit. 1.00

01:23:22.680 He's chameleon-like. 1.00

01:23:24.500 He can project different.

01:23:26.060 Just so you guys know, back in the 1970s, there was no GPS.

01:23:29.060 There was none of this stuff.

01:23:29.900 You either had to know the area or have, like, a big-ass map, and you'd be sitting there in the middle of the road, like, oh, where am I going?

01:23:36.060 Like, this GPS thing didn't exist.

01:23:37.820 So, by profession, the fact that he went to so many different houses, he was aware of different locking systems, mechanisms, et cetera.

01:23:44.180 He knew the area well because he had to drive.

01:23:45.780 This is the 70s and 80s before the age of GPSs.

01:23:49.120 He was very well-versed in the Wichita, Kansas area, you know, which allowed him to be able to blend in, conduct surveillance, watch these people for months, if not years, and do the killings and not get caught.

01:24:00.380 What fucked him up was the DNA and his need for clout.

01:24:03.100 So, if he had never written to the papers, not been so thirsty for attention, he probably would be free right now.

01:24:08.380 Thanks to different people.

01:24:13.120 When they talk about how his wife had to have known, and I thought, well, you know, I worked with this guy eight hours a day.

01:24:20.260 I was around him maybe as much as his family.

01:24:24.580 No, never.

01:24:27.060 If I ever had to walk down a dark alley, I would have said, I want Dennis.

01:24:31.220 He's the guy I want to be with.

01:24:33.840 I want Dennis.

01:24:34.860 That's the guy I want to be with.

01:24:35.760 That goes to show how well of a mask he put on for the public.

01:24:40.500 But there was another side to Dennis Rader.

01:24:43.960 If you read much about serial killers, they go through what they call the trolling stage.

01:24:47.660 Basically, you're looking for a victim at that time.

01:24:50.160 And you could be trolling for months or years.

01:24:53.260 But once you lock in on a certain person, then you become a stalking.

01:24:56.140 And that might be several of them, but you really hone in on.

01:24:58.540 I told her that I was a, had a problem, sexual problem.

01:25:04.500 And once.

01:25:06.800 One mystery remained.

01:25:09.160 Why had there been such long gaps between the murders?

01:25:12.860 Basically, he was raising his children.

01:25:16.260 And once his children were born, it limited the time that he could be away from home.

01:25:19.860 And he did not want his wife to become suspicious.

01:25:25.840 When he was unable to kill, Rader satisfied his urges by practicing on himself.

01:25:33.860 Ties himself up.

01:25:35.660 He takes photographs.

01:25:36.680 That's what's important is the bondage and the imagery.

01:25:38.820 He had a fantasy that all of the victims that died would serve him in the afterlife.

01:25:49.600 Those who knew Rader couldn't believe what they were hearing.

01:25:53.000 When he went on to talk about the details and how he, you know, smothered the bags over those kids' head and, I don't know.

01:26:07.380 It's just, it's very bizarre.

01:26:08.960 Rader escaped execution only because his murders were committed before Kansas voted to restore the death penalty. 0.97

01:26:19.580 I hate him.

01:26:21.740 And that's why he's alive to this day, guys. 1.00

01:26:23.660 The greatest satisfaction I have in my life is the thought of him burning in hell. 0.96

01:26:29.860 When you think about what that cockroach did to so many lives, 0.96

01:26:35.460 can you ever exact enough punishment, enough pain to make up for that?

01:26:40.680 No.

01:26:44.680 His sentence was the toughest the judge could impose.

01:26:47.580 There will be people who will study Dennis Rader, I am sure, and try to figure out what makes him tick.

01:27:00.600 I don't really care what makes Dennis Rader tick.

01:27:04.000 The only thing that I'm concerned about is that Dennis Rader will no longer hurt anyone else.

01:27:09.360 And I will sleep very nicely, just knowing that he's where he belongs.

01:27:17.580 Bam, and there it is, guys.

01:27:25.520 Hope you guys enjoyed that documentary on Dennis Rader, a.k.a. the BTK.

01:27:32.440 Yeah, so, guys, we've covered quite a bit of serial killers now, man.

01:27:35.660 I think I've covered pretty much all the famous ones at this point.

01:27:38.180 We got Ted Bundy.

01:27:39.180 We got the Night Stalker.

01:27:40.340 We got the Zodiac Killer.

01:27:41.540 We got Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy.

01:27:43.700 Now we'd add a BTK to the list, man.

01:27:45.700 So, guys, don't forget to go ahead and like this video.

01:27:49.300 Subscribe to the channel.

01:27:50.620 I'll catch you guys on the next episode of FedIt.

01:27:54.640 Peace.

01:27:55.120 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys?

01:28:01.380 HSI.

01:28:01.980 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

01:28:07.160 No one else has these documents, by the way.

01:28:09.380 Here's what Fed it covered.

01:28:11.100 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.

01:28:17.280 Murder investigations.

01:28:18.340 You see him reaching in his jacket.

01:28:19.400 You don't know.

01:28:20.540 And he's positioning.

01:28:21.240 Been on February 13, 2019.

01:28:22.660 We are facing two counts of two meditative murders.

01:28:26.060 Bracketeering and Rico conspiracies.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - January 20, 2023

He Bound, Tortured & KILLED! Fed Explains Serial Killer： BTK

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