How Oct 7, 2023 Changed EVERYTHING With Sulaiman Ahmed!
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Every single hour, every single day, every single night, early life.
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If I don't limit your reach, someone else will.
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If I don't blow up your kiss, someone else will.
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If I don't attack you as shit, someone else will.
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I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God.
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If I don't buy your politicians, someone else will.
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If I don't buy your politicians, someone else will.
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If I don't do false flag missions, someone else will.
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We blew our friends away and blamed Thomas today.
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We knew it was coming, but baby needed war drumming.
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Find the five years of genocide and still these Pallies won't die.
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We blew our friends away and blamed Thomas today.
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We knew it was coming, but baby needed war drumming.
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The final solution to the Palestinian problem is let false flags happen so we could solve them.
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We let Hamas fly over our walls and kill thousands of our friends.
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Then our helicopters killed them all, and we blamed Thomas in the end.
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We blew our friends away and blamed Thomas today.
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We blew our friends away and blamed Thomas today.
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We knew it was coming, but baby needed war drumming.
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all right what's up guys welcome hold on let me turn up the stream here a little bit turn up my
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volume okay we are live what's up guys welcome to the stream welcome to the stream i'm here
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with uh soliman and they actually need this chat out the way a little bit um what's up man you
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want to say what's up to the people yeah thanks for having me on uh good to be on your show and
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looking forward to speaking about october 7th all right um let me just adjust some of the sound
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real fast i know we're coming in a little low probably right chat so let me
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we got a guest in the studio which you guys don't see all
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all right sorry i think i might have blew out your air drums there for a second sorry about that guys
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but yeah we got uh slim on the house can you say what's up to the people real quick on the mic yeah
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guys uh can you hear me yeah yeah i think they got the good readings right there perfect perfect
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i'm gonna turn your mic up a little bit cool all right i think we're good man um yeah sorry guys
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i was uh getting everything um i was getting everything ready in the background um as you
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guys know i'm not the most technology savviest person ever but uh we got it done yeah we're
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figuring it out um let's see here there's something else if i'm trying to see here if there's something
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what i need to do um cool no man but uh take us
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oh by the way if you guys are wondering the name of that song was uh hannibal day happy hannibal day
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by uh lucas gage you guys are wondering here it is right here for you guys i'll give you guys the
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link real quick um happy because i already know you guys are gonna ask me yo bro what's the name of
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that song man i got y'all right now i'll drop it in the chat for you guys okay there it is
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so you guys can go ahead and um enjoy but uh but yeah so i'm on you real quick uh if you can
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introduce yourself to the people whatever for the people that might not be familiar obviously they
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see me join a bunch of your space and stuff like that but um but yeah yeah yeah sure it's uh
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suleiman i'm on x i'm quite big on x uh i've got a large following as well as obviously i do the
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biggest spaces on x as well talking about geopolitics both in the mid well in the middle
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east united states of america and the uk i'm a little bit more towards the left uh so i give a
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credit to marin and a few others who are willing to have these conversations and have and speak to
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various people who maybe have different opinions yeah yeah and you just got done uh wrapping up an
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interview with um with elijah how's that yeah that was really good that was more about islam
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in the west okay and um kind of that idea because obviously they kind of have like a certain perception
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of islam of course so it's always good to like have those conversations and break it down because
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i think a lot of things is based on propaganda misconceptions and misunderstandings yeah like um
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that they're going to destroy the world and everything right yeah that or there's an invasion or
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they're trying to take over and or there's this kind of like it's not it's not compatible with
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the west and these type of conversations so i think they're like really important conversations
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to have because like when you break it down you said to people like what do you actually mean like
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what aspects of it do you believe are not congruent with the western society or how is it islam
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trying to take over those arguments you find are not very strong and it's mainly based on
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something that you thought or something you heard rather than something based on something
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cogent gotcha um yeah especially with uh with what's going on in the uh in the uk right they have
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like this what's the uh percentage because here in the u.s we're only like one to two percent of
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the population what about in uh the uk what's the population six percent okay so it's like triple
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well no well because america is a bigger country how many how many millions of people are muslim there
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um so it's um six percent of 70 million so what's that um okay four million there's only 70 million
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people there yeah yeah uk is not that big because we got like i think 300 million here yeah you got
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350 right yeah and then yeah and you guys got more jews here than yeah right yeah how is there
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like a muslim takeover and let's not even consider let's not even take into consideration that they
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control everything but yeah just from a sheer numbers from a number yeah we have the most here
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yeah outside of israel yeah we got the most here and then but isn't it double double jews
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compared to muslims in the u.s i don't know if it's double but i do know it's it's a lot we have the
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between new york city la um i think it might be more than uh miami yeah so yeah they definitely
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have seven million jews in the u.s right or seven or eight million jews uh yeah i wouldn't be surprised
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if that wasn't the number um okay so uh i guess we'll get into kind of like october 7th man um
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obviously the two-year anniversary yeah there was um a lot of things have happened um brought since
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um do you kind of want to uh give everybody like an overview of what happened on that day or you
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know we could just start off wherever you want yeah i know i know you have a lot to say about this
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and you know i've talked about october 7th quite a bit though maybe it'll refresh the audience here
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another yeah yeah of course course so like we'll we'll let's talk about the behead babies first oh
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sure okay you wanted the bunk you don't even want to go over what happened that day or you want to go
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over um we can do um i mean what happened on the day was the palestinians
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broke into um israel and the reason they broke in was quite simple they wanted to get
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to get israeli military hostages and bring them back to um gaza and then trade them for palestinian
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for palestinian hostages because they've got a significant number of palestinian hostages held
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in prisons men women and children who have not been given a trial or they've been given being put
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through these phony military courts where 99.5 percent of people basically everyone except one
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person has been found guilty so therefore they're not really caught it's like hamas taking their
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hostages right now and saying oh guess what we put them through a car and now yeah yeah they're all
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guilty yeah it's the exact same situation yeah so that's like 11 000 over there total prisoners in
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in israel yeah exactly 11 000 exactly there's 11 000 and they compared that to like what is it now
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it's in it's like 30 or 40 right now but initially there was 200 and they never wanted 200 the aim was
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just the military hostages and to take them back to israel now what happened obviously on that day was
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there's a few things that happened the first thing is obviously many people think there was a step down
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order um i'm kind of i'm looking into that in a lot of detail because i'm writing a book on it
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okay and i'm still not 100 percent short either way on that okay so you're not sold on it you're not
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sold in the stand-down order i'm not yet i'm not okay and so i'm looking into it a lot more and the
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reason i'm not sold on it is because i actually think they good because they're skeptical because
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people love love to run with narratives so like you you know obviously for you're like no i need
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to like really you know make sure i have this right because everyone thinks you know everyone's
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like oh there had to be a stand-down order or whatever which you know i guess it kind of makes
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sense because you know that border is extremely secure yeah but at the same time it's like
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but as you said they're extremely secure they took about six hours in a large number of areas
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the certain videos of soldiers claiming that there was a step down order there was um what
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you call it again in the stock market the israeli stock market people short of the market there is
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like a number of things that do kind of give this indication that there was possibly a step down
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order on the other side there's the people who claim that there's a step down order the main sources
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of them they were they're actually zionists and so for me what i always see about the israeli is
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they want israelis they always want to give this kind of perspective that they are untouchable
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they are unbeatable no one can take them out they are unpenetrable and they always give the
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psychology now mossad in itself is quite good right but the israeli army the idf is extremely
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incompetent i don't think they're as good as people claim and they've struggled you saw they lost
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again in lebanon yes i was talking about this yesterday that that um the israelis actual like
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their ground game and like their actual on the boots uh boots on the ground military is not as
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strong as we will think yeah it's very weak right and they make the same military mistakes
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despite people telling them they made the mistake so i always give this example i think i mentioned
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on your show before but i'm sure you are like 2006 when they lost the lebanon war the american
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military analysis was that one of the major mistakes they made when they lost was they would bomb
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the bombing would cause destruction of buildings and it would cause rubble and what would happen is
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tanks would struggle to go past the rubble right and cause tanks would struggle to get past the
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rubble they'd need to bring bulldozers in to remove the rubble now while they're doing that
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whole procedure the lebanese army would come in and just take them out that's the exact same thing
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they're still doing in gaza the only difference is hamas's army isn't a legitimate army right it's a
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very it's a paramilitary it's kind of it's not very structured so why i'm giving that example is
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they continue to make the same mistakes when military and analyzers are telling them these
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are mistakes and so that tells you not only are they weak from a soldier perspective they're weak
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from a military perspective as well and strategy and you're seeing that you saw that in the iran-israel
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war right like a lot of the decisions they made when it was off the cuff was weak so their very first
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day they did really well because it was planned it was pre-planned they got the u.s as they normally do
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right which has happened historically they always perfectly blended their military action alongside
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their intelligence operatives right to like take everything down at a certain time and then as
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they're taking down the air defense the jets are flying over shooting the missiles in well i don't
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even think they actually managed to shoot that many missiles in the vast majority of the attack on the
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first day was from with the inside iran oh yes yes yes yes yes yes yes because they had built drones
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inside the country yes they basically had a number of mossad agents in and so they but they were the biggest
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thing what made them succeed was trump lying to uh yes to uh the iranians i'll never forget they got
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attacked on a thursday or friday they're supposed to have negotiations on sunday bro exactly so because
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they manipulate and remember this is america's doing this remember they did this in the 1968 war
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in the 1967 war sorry on the six day war right yeah the six day war uh they basically uh if you
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remember nasir he uh never wanted to fight israel he never planned to fight israel he actually just made
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certain moves to make it look like like he's you know bolstering because the jordanians want them
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wanted them to like do something and he didn't want to do anything this came up on my debate with
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destiny he was saying that oh the egyptians were mobilizing so they're right to strike first yeah
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which is fake literally yeah the egyptians were in um yemen oh right the egyptians were fighting in
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yemen what's up on the map in uh 67 and because nasa basically was supporting the socialist
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the socialist the socialist movement in yemen so you had nasa supporting the socialists in yemen
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and you had america israel and uh united kingdom supporting the other side okay and so he had half
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his army there let me just give these guys a visual representation real quick
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okay so where were they you said they were stationed in yemen yemen yeah okay so he had
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he had a bunch of he had half his army in yemen why training or fighting fight oh he was supporting
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the yemenese socialists because he wanted them to be the leaders of yemen okay and the americans
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brits and less or the israelis but they were supporting the other side okay so it was an internal
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war within yemen there's always been civil wars there man yeah exactly but there was internal
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civil war within yemen and they both wanted someone else to win because obviously egypt was quite
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strong so half so there were no position to even fight israel which makes no sense because they were
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saying that he was moving up towards the sinai peninsula he's extremely retarded right yeah he's
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not gonna have half his army in yemen and then what happens is because half his army's in yemen
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he never wants to fight israel so he actually ends up when israel attacks he ends up fighting
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israel with the other half half of the army and so that just demonstrates a that there was never a
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plan to fight because how he wouldn't split half his army and half his army and uh also obviously
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that's the reason israel won now oh sorry why i was telling the story is because the day before
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israel strikes nasser doesn't want to fight and he says i've started i'm hearing that israel is about
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attack us so he gets on the phone with lbj and he's like israel gonna fight the attack us yep and
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he's like nah bro trust me no they're not gonna they're not gonna attack you like you have that
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word bro like it's not gonna happen uh oh no 67 is gonna be lyndon b johnson i think yeah yeah oh man
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and obviously you know his yeah lyndon b johnson is you guys oh man you could thank lyndon b johnson for
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this pro-israel uh foreign policy that we have he was like the first president to really start being
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uh you know a shill for the israelis was lyndon b johnson and his and a lot of people don't like
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hearing this but you know he does have uh females on females on his women on the female side of his
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family excuse me that are jewish so he does have some jewish uh lineage he was having relations with
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a mossad operative right yes he was yeah and her strange boyfriend which they had some kind of weird
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threesome thing going on where he would watch but whatever yeah yeah that's another thing he had an
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affair with uh with uh israeli intelligence operative guys lyndon b johnson yeah but then
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he he's the one who um so lyndon b johnson basically tells nasser don't worry not gonna attack so he just
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chills out he's like the president of the united states and then they attack so the same thing as
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what trump did wow so if you actually look at it israel got a lot of help even in that war because he
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got promised like if he'd known that israel was an attack if he hadn't listened to lbj he would
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try and get his army back now it would be difficult to get it in one day but like he would
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have put certain procedures in place to make sure that israelis and of course the israelis
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attacked and just well that makes sense because um that makes sense that half the military was gone
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yeah yeah because they had they handed them it was only a six it wasn't even i guess why they call
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it a six-day war it was literally just like oh like israel destroyed them right yeah like there's
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no denying that but they destroyed him because of the reasons i said yeah yeah um okay so we covered
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you know let's go into real quick just backing up real fast what do you think were the top
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reasons that october 7th happened um from uh from hamas yeah from hamas i mean i think the main
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reason was because they wanted to get their hostages yeah and they wanted to basically uh negotiate and
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convert those hostages for um for palestini hostages but the second reason is obviously they were
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concerned that well what is going to happen was there was going to be some kind of overarching abraham
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cause which would leave them without a place and remember you have to remember like like you think
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this is like a bad maneuver but if you look at it from this perspective they've been ghettoized
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in that region since 67 right because if israel wanted they could have done one two things they
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won the war right they could either bring gaza and the west bank as part of israel yeah right or
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they could have given it a separate state but they didn't want to do either they didn't want to give
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them a separate state quite clearly because they don't want palestine to have a state but they
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didn't want to incorporate as part of israel because then they have a minority population
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yeah so the third option was so i'm trying to explain a brand of tatum that like they would never
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have a one state because they would have to maintain the majority exactly that's why they called
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the jewish state yeah but sorry and remember like um the jew their plan even since uh 40 48 was always
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we want to have 80 20 we always want to have more jews like 80 or 75 jews compared to um you know the
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arab well also because they know that you know if they were to allow the palestinians to assimilate
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in they would quickly lose the advantage because they have kids faster they have more kids exactly i
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agree you know because they claim they claim that israel's buffer is quite high but i think that's a
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lie you don't think it's as high you don't think it's higher than us here in america though right
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i think they're lying oh you think they're lying about that like they're all lgbtq gay
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like into feminism i think they're lying fair enough yeah fair enough they do call like the
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gay capital the middle east pretty much yeah yeah yeah so i think they're lying i don't think that's
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true um so like that's the second reason the because that what will have happened is they were
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afraid so number one was you would say hostages number one to do a hostage negotiation and it's
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funny because western media never talks about that you know that like oh they just went in there
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i just want to kill and pillage everybody i'm but i'm like it's about getting hostages and even
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like the pillaging thing like there's no evidence of that right like you've been through it so much
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in the last two years i've been through it like there's zero except but like and we're honest
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right i think like we're not like blind so after seeing or reviewing the footage there was possibly
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two or three incidences where someone's intentionally killed a civilian yeah and uh there's one that they
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didn't show us but i've we've seen it now because they released it but we'd we already knew about it
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because what i'm talking about the 45 minute video right yeah yeah so guys whenever they tell
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you and i might as well tell audiences there's this video out there like a 45 minute 48 minute 50
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minutes somewhere in that range compilation video okay where the israeli government compiled all the
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gopro footage and all the different cameras they had camera angles they had and they did like a
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compilation of what happened on october 7th and you've seen the video in full right i haven't watched
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they've not no they've not released it to the public so what i've seen is the website full of
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all the videos that's yeah i've seen all of that the scan code that he gave to the un when he was at
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the un yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i've seen all that and the ones they've released on the website
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but this 48 minute video what they try and make it look like a lot of it's a mouse fighters getting
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killed in there too yeah it's a lot of it is them like dying like on well because they had these
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gopros and it's them getting shot and dying on camera exactly exactly like it's like a lot of people
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running yeah like running and trying to get to like i like hiding into some places but yeah the
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the crap that they talked about like the beheaded babies but babies there's you don't see any of
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that oh there's zero of that zero rape zero everything yeah literally none of that exists
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in the videos there's four four incidences where you'd say look there is a possibility it's worth
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having a conversation about three like i said where there's there's a shooting one looks like an
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assassination and and again you don't know what happened before what happened after but just on the
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snicker yeah right and then there's one video which like there were reporters who watched it
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we weren't them uh owen jones is one obviously like many people disagree with him but the point is he
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said look i've seen the video and i've seen the other footage and there's only like one extra incident
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that you would say is like problematic and it's this incident that they released about a month or two
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ago which is that there's a father and two children the father runs into like this shelter and then
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they throw like a grenade i did see that one yeah that resurfaced again like earlier this month yeah
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so that's the only thing you'd say is extra which is intentional killing which is in the 48 minute
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video so that's it really um so there's like still horrible right it's horrible like it's not
00:53:08.980
acceptable right yeah those people i think those people who did it if it is and we don't know let's
00:53:13.560
look at this unless they are guilty they should be tried and they should like you know they should
00:53:17.900
be tried and caught we don't agree with that we don't agree with vigilantism like there's certain
00:53:21.460
rules and ethics both within western society which we agree with them within islam which we agree
00:53:27.280
with that you can't do and this is an example of something that you shouldn't do um so like yeah
00:53:31.900
but this whole idea that all of it happened like that is completely incorrect like the vast majority
00:53:36.460
of people as you know were killed by israel um you had what 1150 at least 400 of them are um soldiers
00:53:44.900
and then you had 750 and then they deployed the hannibal directive you had a shelling into certain
00:53:51.600
kibbutzes i would say like if you ask me so how much in people do you think is uh hamas actually
00:53:57.140
killed i'd probably say like 200 250 that makes the most sense based on the situation i'd like that
00:54:02.160
around 600 hamas yeah at most at most 600 they killed how could they be 600 because like
00:54:07.920
1150 take away 400 soldiers yep 750 yep so you're saying uh israel only killed like 100 yeah apache
00:54:16.780
helicopters remember when they killed apache helicopters to like just give you the depth of
00:54:22.060
how many people they killed who i'm saying 600 at most at most at most is what i'm saying yeah of
00:54:26.980
course like logically that could be the max but like i'm saying like what do i actually think i think
00:54:30.660
200 you think 200 yeah yeah by by by hamas yeah because let's just take the apache helicopter okay
00:54:36.280
so the apache helicopter which matter of fact let me pull that up right now because because this is
00:54:40.980
something that brandon tatum tried to tell me like oh uh you know hamas killed all these people i was
00:54:44.920
like bro like are you aware that literally those apache helicopters like they're raining hellfire
00:54:49.580
missiles down and the way like hamas doesn't have that capability people are burnt to a crisp yeah
00:54:53.940
you know but go ahead keep going yeah and you're right and uh when they deployed the hannibal
00:54:58.620
directive right which is what this guy claimed right this tame guy he was like because i could read he's
00:55:03.800
i think some israeli sent him a script because they probably did right yeah he had a laptop the whole time
00:55:08.040
because he was first saying like i don't know what that is and then he said oh i've just read the
00:55:11.840
hannibal directive it's the and then he used the israeli land as soldiers yeah nowhere someone
00:55:16.300
like him would have been like coming with that argument and here you go right here video released
00:55:19.420
by israeli army shows helicopters firing indiscriminately on october 7th yeah
00:55:22.400
and you can hear them talking each other like you guys can see i and this is what i told tatum i was
00:55:28.500
like yo it's like thermal vision bro you can't tell who's who exactly right so
00:55:32.980
he was blowing up cars how can you tell if that's a soldier yeah like you can't tell like what what
00:55:39.460
what they are like it just you just see green and they were told fire at everything do not let
00:55:44.440
anything get back into the strip true you know so um but yeah here's the here's the footage guys like
00:55:49.820
you guys really see these these cars are getting absolutely demolished but sorry you were saying so
00:55:54.420
on this if you had so they've done this right like you said they're demolishing places they killed 200
00:55:59.800
hamas people from this hellfire missiles okay that okay that actually they killed more but 200 of them
00:56:06.140
were burned so badly yeah that they thought they were israelis yeah they could remember the
00:56:10.660
original number was so high yeah 2000 yeah and they reduced it and one of the argument was argument
00:56:16.000
was is that 200 of the hamas members we thought they were israelis but later on we found out the
00:56:20.980
hamas gotcha yeah because the original figure was 2000 dead yeah and then they revised it down to 1200
00:56:26.280
and so what that tells you is if they've killed 200 hamas members minimum they probably killed more
00:56:33.680
than that because this is the ones they confused as israelis so they probably killed three four
00:56:37.320
hundred hamas members from hellfire missiles 200 of them they thought they was their own people but
00:56:42.320
they end up in hamas means they probably killed about one two hundred at least israelis because
00:56:47.120
they're just bombarding so if we think that they killed about one two hundred from the apache
00:56:52.240
helicopters and then from kibbutz barry look at all these people running here look you can see
00:56:56.380
them right there and they're just like blowing them up machine guns all that
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oh god yeah and then kibbutz barry kibbutz barry is really important because um that was the place
00:57:08.620
where one of the babies was killed you know yeah yeah um and what the uh israeli um a newspaper
00:57:15.760
said and what they confirmed and what their military leaders confirmed is that they were basically
00:57:21.480
using artillery fire indiscriminately in kibbutz barry right and so what we know again in kibbutz
00:57:28.960
barry is israelis were firing indiscriminately and i believe 120 people were killed the vast majority
00:57:36.980
by israel so if they've killed let's say 70 80 people there 200 there were already knocking
00:57:42.940
300 400 off just from two locations so i that's why that's why i get to the figure of 200 i think
00:57:48.320
then you take kibbutz kaphar you take the other various places you take nova festival they've
00:57:53.460
killed a lot of their own people yeah the people who were driving back so and and they were they
00:57:58.920
were frantically trying to get and uh get involved too like they didn't know what was going on you
00:58:03.700
know because i think when hamas invaded didn't they one of the first things they do was destroy the
00:58:07.060
radio towers yeah they did it was like one of the first things they did yeah they did and they and
00:58:10.900
they targeted the military bases and they targeted the kibbutz and the kibbutz have military personnel in
00:58:16.640
there you know who did a real good video on this keep going yeah yeah and and so the kibbutz is a
00:58:21.320
military personnel in there and that's the reason for it so like a lot of these videos that show of
00:58:25.220
women being taken uh in that those women were actual soldiers
00:58:30.580
um so that's basically one of the things that happened so
00:58:36.040
i think this is the yeah this is like the original video right here
00:58:44.800
this comes and you guys know i like this channel it's called propaganda encode it's a funny video
00:58:49.640
sorry funny name of the channel uh let me see here i think they covered
00:58:55.060
wall and destroy the israeli arrogance and complacency to plan and operate relatively
00:59:04.820
undetected in the early hours of october 7th a blitz so this will give you guys a quick little
00:59:09.200
summary of what went down on that morning and then we'll keep going into because i know you uh we're
00:59:13.420
talking about the abraham of course we'll come back to like the reasons it's of over 2200 rockets
00:59:18.160
were fired at the iron dome missile defense system but this was only truly meant to provide
00:59:23.960
the cover needed to fly drones over the one billion dollar iron wall and destroy the remote
00:59:31.020
controlled machine gun turrets and communication towers they rammed through the first layer of
00:59:36.060
defense and then created over 20 separate breach points through the main iron wall their immediate
00:59:41.580
objectives take out important nearby command and control military sites and now can you explain
00:59:47.520
real quick to the audience um kibbutzes how that works and then why how they have these things set up
00:59:53.060
here on the border yeah so the nahal oz is a military air base military base so that's the reason they
00:59:59.280
targeted that kibbutz reem is a kibbutz and again they targeted that because what happens is these
01:00:04.520
kibbutzes have military personnel in there yeah and so what is like a i guess rude way of saying this
01:00:10.200
like maybe a neighborhood um yeah i mean it's like little homes like in it's like a sanctuary area but
01:00:16.400
it's not a sanctuary because within that area they do have people like normal workers yeah but there's
01:00:21.480
a lot of military personnel but the reason they place them kibbutzes there is basically to kind of
01:00:25.760
again observe gaza as well of course yeah so so there's kind of like this kind of weird like
01:00:31.360
evil reasoning for why it's there but yeah that's the kibbutzes the kibbutzes used for like
01:00:36.520
farming and various other things but at the same time there's like military personnel yeah a lot of
01:00:40.560
military personnel and the same with uh urim so again they had military personnel there so that's
01:00:45.800
the reason you target them and there was obviously kibbutz kapha and various other kibbutzes there was
01:00:50.260
another military base as well so they just basically were uh nahal with the nahal so they basically
01:00:56.520
targeted them um different locations and as he said yeah they basically penetrated through about 25
01:01:02.940
different locations yeah but the aim was to get to those specific areas because uh you know you had to
01:01:08.420
take them out because they're right on your base if you didn't take them out you would struggle so
01:01:12.000
and funny enough they it was um it was kibbutz ream i think where hamas actually struggled to get in
01:01:21.300
like there was a lot of back and forth a lot of fire back and forth okay so they did like a decent job
01:01:26.180
in what in that kibbutz it was actually the military nahal base that they just completely took over
01:01:30.540
gotcha yeah and they did this very early in the morning so people were asleep or the the it's like
01:01:36.040
6 30 yeah yeah and it was it was it was right around yam kippur too right yeah it was yeah one of
01:01:41.000
their big holidays yeah yeah so as quickly as possible before the israelis could respond so they
01:01:46.460
split into small divisions and raced to their targets speed boats raced across the ocean and onto
01:01:52.400
the beaches of sakim while paragliders flew over the wall and landed in various areas guys on beat up
01:01:58.660
motorcycles and pickup trucks used home made anti-tank missiles to take out three million
01:02:05.200
dollar merkava tanks and 20 million dollar apache helicopters they conquered raim military base an
01:02:11.380
important communication that's the one you just mentioned right yeah they took it over quickly
01:02:14.960
and drone surveillance headquarters killing or capturing all the soldiers inside before destroying
01:02:21.160
the server rooms according to scott ritter hamas struck the headquarters of the gaza division the
01:02:26.740
local intelligence help and other major command and control and this was a big reason why it took
01:02:31.680
them so long to respond and they were discombobulated you know and i'm realizing this right well modern
01:02:35.480
warfare um you know we went from the days of trench warfare shooting at each other just trying to kill
01:02:40.900
each other to okay we have to go after communication infrastructure and technology first then we can go
01:02:46.400
ahead and oh yeah actual combat like this is what modern warfare has done where it's like you know you
01:02:51.140
can't prioritize taking people right away you have to destroy the communications and the technology
01:02:54.760
it's what uh israel did what i read made them effectively blind for several hours infrastructure
01:02:59.100
infrastructure is the most important thing like you take that out and you basically take out the
01:03:02.560
technology and then bam now they're operating blind facilities with brutal precision turning what
01:03:07.700
should have been a five minute response time into many hours more than enough time for hamas to carry out
01:03:14.040
one of its primary objectives the taking of hostages to use as exchange for the near 5 000 men and
01:03:21.360
women and children in these kibbutzes and in this military base there was soldiers there yes so you
01:03:28.800
have like it's not like hamas just went in and nobody was there so they didn't have to fight with
01:03:32.920
soldiers they had to fight with military people and so from the israeli perspective again like i know it
01:03:38.480
doesn't take long for a helicopter to get go from like tel aviv or from their different military bases
01:03:42.900
to the here but at the same time they already have those people stationed in and so that kind of
01:03:48.240
explains why there was a bit of a time lag as well yeah okay in israeli administrative detention centers
01:03:54.480
returning to gaza with more than 230 israeli soldiers and civilians the result was a complete
01:04:01.260
route of local israeli military forces for hours the israelis were completely in the dark confused as
01:04:08.680
to where the attack was even coming from thousands of rockets were in the air dozens of bases and
01:04:13.760
military settlements aka kibbutz were captured and multiple helicopters and tanks were destroyed the
01:04:19.360
attack came so hard and so fast that many idf soldiers were still in their pajamas as the
01:04:25.080
resistance fighters entered the barracks how could these half starved and besieged fighters have the
01:04:30.640
gall to escape their prison and carry out an attack like this no one in israel could have imagined it
01:04:36.840
let alone expect desperate to respond the israelis began to implement scorched earth tactics their
01:04:42.960
helicopters began firing hellfire missiles and machine gun rounds indiscriminately at vehicles
01:04:48.460
and people running in the fields tanks rolled through the kibbutz and main roads and shelled houses
01:04:53.600
as ground troops exchanged fire with militants this led to this was confirmed in terms of the
01:04:59.380
shelling by um like we mentioned israeli military israeli commanders that they were using the hannibal
01:05:04.940
directive on that the fact that they were firing just well it was yeah it was like the hannibal
01:05:09.000
directive but they were just because they were just going in with the tanks they were just firing
01:05:12.700
indiscriminately yeah they were and so uh even like yasmin para if you remember like she went
01:05:17.660
completely somehow i don't know what happened to her she disappeared right but she basically said that
01:05:22.180
when the host when the habas had her they were protecting her and it was she was they're protecting
01:05:27.300
her from israeli shots oh so remember that was the big scandal yeah with yasmin para she said it on
01:05:33.140
a radio show yes yes yes yes i was gonna after that she went completely silent it's just really weird
01:05:37.900
yes yes i do remember that yes i remember this yes yes yes uh
01:05:48.860
um okay i guess it's not like she's like loving her much you're still calling them terrorists yeah yeah
01:05:59.860
yeah of course she said that so we'll go here yeah so she goes here so we were about 12 hostages
01:06:06.820
and 40 terrorists they're guarding us i'm keeping the story short
01:06:18.820
in that the interviewer asked her did they harm you she said no they didn't harm us they treated us
01:06:27.060
very humanely he says humanely yes what does that mean humanely and then she says they guarded us
01:06:40.420
they gave us something to drink now and then when they saw we were anxious they calmed us down
01:06:48.900
it was very frightening but no one behaved uh toward us violently luckily for marie nothing happened to me
01:06:59.380
like what i've been hearing about in the media now i remind you it is important for people to know
01:07:07.140
when this interview came out all the hasbara with the mass grapes and the beheaded babies and the
01:07:12.340
babies and ovens were coming out yeah yeah that's what she said you know so you know this is why the
01:07:16.980
interviewer guys is so um confused like what do you mean they they guarded you what are you talking about
01:07:22.260
like i'm hearing all these reports of them pulling babies out of people's women's wombs and stuff like
01:07:26.740
that exactly so um you know this was really brave for her to say or tell the truth about what happened
01:07:32.100
in her experience when she was dealing with uh these guys but after two and a half hours
01:07:39.460
i'm reading it because a lot of people listen to this thing versus watch um but in short
01:07:44.420
at the beginning there was nobody like there was nobody with us from the security services
01:07:51.940
we were the ones who called the police together with the kidnappers
01:07:55.860
the goal of the kidnappers was to abduct us to gaza
01:08:04.180
one of the terrorists wanted to surrender to the police
01:08:08.740
this terrorist was the one i conversed with during these two hours i also spoke with some of the
01:08:14.820
other kidnappers who had kept us hostage he then decided to use me as a human shield
01:09:00.340
five or six hostages lying on the ground outside
01:09:10.980
in the line of fire between our forces and the terrorists
01:09:20.020
she says no they were wounded in the exchange of gunfire
01:09:23.300
the last six people killed by by idf right there just from her just from her witness
01:09:28.820
yeah there was 12 hostages six killed yeah because because the the um when i look at the
01:09:34.740
numbers the israelis tried their media they try to say roughly 15 to 20 were killed but that's
01:09:39.780
bullshit uh we're killed with by friendly fire by the idf which is mentioned she heard yeah
01:09:46.740
her yeah herself she's already this is and this and just to understand like when i was giving you
01:09:50.900
those figures when i said out like 200 from the apache helicopter like maybe like we've got like
01:09:56.180
70 18 kibbutz berry i'm not even talking about kibbutz kafa and all the rest of them she's literally
01:10:01.140
saying that where she was and i can't remember where she was now which kibbutz she was in
01:10:05.700
but the kibbutz she was in there's 12 hostages half of them were killed and all of them were killed by
01:10:12.100
israel yeah yeah and i try to explain this to people that like um it makes no sense for them to
01:10:18.500
break in there just to kill people like they're there with a purpose right they're there to get
01:10:22.820
as many hostages as they can because that's really the only leverage they have and well they don't
01:10:28.100
even want to get many hostages remember the aim was only to get like a hundred hostages that was
01:10:32.580
the aim okay yeah okay um because what happened was the nova festival never should have been there
01:10:36.580
right uh because what the nova festival was never meant to be there got extended for like two to three
01:10:41.860
days you want to explain that to them too yeah so there was basically a nova festival this is enough
01:10:45.380
here right i mean you guys heard enough yeah but here you guys hear a kibbutz survivor telling you
01:10:49.300
guys that they were basically getting shot out by the israelis you know what i mean and and the reason
01:10:53.380
why we know this is authentic is because this is days after the attack before the israelis can really
01:10:57.460
get a grasp on the media and everything like that now have you watched some people being interviewed
01:11:02.980
yeah we haven't seen her and then we got like people you know making bullshit stories up but this
01:11:06.900
before all the hasbar started getting spread uh but go ahead sorry yeah and so the nova festival was the
01:11:12.180
actual festival where a lot of people were now i don't i'm gonna sound mean but i kind of don't
01:11:17.860
really care first of all like what's the ethics and holding a nova festival right outside of
01:11:23.540
concentration right it's bang out of order that is a little weird it's just not right right it's like
01:11:29.460
literally you know having a prison and then having people like take the mick out of those people and
01:11:34.020
starving people yeah it's bad it's not acceptable and the second thing is like they claim that these people
01:11:40.180
that they were like you know they didn't have much clothes on but i don't want to sound mean but
01:11:45.780
like how do people dress during these festivals oh yeah they don't wear clothes exactly so yeah
01:11:49.700
like people who are dressed like that then they're like oh yeah yeah yeah they're in their underwear
01:11:54.420
because that's how they were dressing yeah yeah if you've ever been to a edm festival or whatever
01:11:58.980
you already know that women dress like 304s so that's what they do yeah and so but they try to
01:12:04.660
use that as evidence to say oh look they got great yeah i see what you mean yeah which is ridiculous we're not
01:12:08.580
allowed to say because we have to be like oh you know if you say you're gonna get cancelled yeah um
01:12:12.340
and then the no so the nova festival happens is meant to be one day they and they apply for an extension
01:12:18.580
which is something that hamas didn't know about and the extension was for 24 to 48 hours and there's
01:12:24.660
documents to prove that this extension occurred okay and so when hamas come in this for the music
01:12:29.380
festival yeah so when hamas come in they're shocked that there's a festival they're even like oh what are
01:12:34.340
these people doing here and so because there's so many people they end up taking so many people
01:12:38.660
back as hostages when the plan was not to do so because it's very difficult to manage so many
01:12:42.340
hostages yeah yeah yeah no that makes sense and i mean you know from a military standpoint of you
01:12:48.260
know if you want to attack an area you know is it a smart to attack when there's a music festival
01:12:52.340
going on probably not no so they so okay yeah that makes sense because just from yeah exactly i think
01:12:57.700
you hit the nail on the head from a military strategy strategy perspective if you're trying to go in and
01:13:01.700
get out quickly why the fuck would you do it in the middle of a music festival exactly because
01:13:05.300
think about it logically you can't control the area right you've got a large expansive area people
01:13:11.220
display this like throughout scattered when you go after them they're gonna run which is what
01:13:17.140
happened and then you're gonna have to chase them you're gonna not be able to contain the area
01:13:21.620
which is really important if you see in the kibbutz and the military places where they went they were
01:13:26.660
easily able to um um you know control the area you know make sure there's no exit points no entry
01:13:32.180
points make sure that they've got their place contained they're only able to do so when there's
01:13:36.180
an open expansive area so logically speaking if they were aware that not the nova festival is
01:13:41.060
there they would never win yeah good so um here let me you know let me read some of these chats
01:13:47.380
real quick and then we're gonna go into some more of the stuff we're discussing all right
01:13:50.980
oh slash griper oh slash thank you very much jerome says hey my when you start the stream and we are
01:13:55.060
in the debrief loading uh screen and sounds can you play nitrate and get high while the wait wss
01:13:59.300
um i mean that's why i play music for you guys as i'm getting closer ian says oh slash appreciate
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that r1 uh myron uh dv myron your legend bro os as well where i took over you know it uh yay solely
01:14:09.300
listening to you on x it's nice cover zone hey myron uh just listening today is my birthday can i
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get a shout out happy birthday to you uh cover zone uh kane says wg solely okay
01:14:18.420
uh bro i'm not a g why are you attacking yeah he said uh put his mic closer or i'll turn his volume
01:14:23.300
up right now um let's see here uh the goats of the goats i can't wait to hear hear uh the sauce
01:14:30.020
y'all about to fire off wish play was on yesterday to caca that torta yesterday gonna be a fire show
01:14:35.220
both y'all uh king clock says this is the first time uh ranting i've been watching since 2020 your
01:14:40.820
work ethic is incredible enough glaze i'm a welder in california shout out to you bro uh
01:14:44.900
ask them out if he's seen any rubber dinghy rapids or rs3s since being in the us so he's that's like
01:14:52.180
um there's like a i don't know if you know this but it's like uh it's a classic movie from the uk
01:14:58.260
there's guys from like yorkshire like sheffield which is not too far from where i live now and you
01:15:03.220
know how asian accents are so he's like rubber rubber the big rubber dinghy rapids bro oh like it's
01:15:08.500
a classic it's a funny movie it's about like these four muslim guys it's insider joke from yeah
01:15:13.780
okay four muslim guys are trying to take out a terrorist attack but it's like a funny movie
01:15:17.300
gotcha yeah chaz says so man i've been trying to get a hold of you x suspended me on september 14th
01:15:21.300
they gave me no reason i've appealed multiple times with no response day before being suspended i i had
01:15:25.940
to prove i was human and i've seen real id verified since it came out massad got me wmr w so i'm on
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oh bro yeah yeah x sucks bro yeah uh and says happy to see you visiting state so i'm welcome
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yeah i'm so happy to be here i was uh i was concerned i might not be letting so it's great yeah um just a
01:15:41.700
black guy says is this the same guy who was an ex chat with a uh about a week ago talking about
01:15:46.420
9-11 ties sounds like him i don't know what you're talking about yeah i mean we did talk about the
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9-11 yeah okay possibly um nox epic uh track debut today i need to go donate to lucas okay bluff
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kim i think ian carroll said he was in miami in a recent podcast uh i didn't i didn't know you hit
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me up um democrats won in norway and in the last two months we have had a social worker brutally
01:16:08.100
murdered two grandkids incidents in oslo god damn all right social says i can't wait to see the nick
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steal ryan's talking points again love you san niggas i'm confused
01:16:22.260
what do you mean by that oh slash griper uh w so man all right cool uh thunder says hey man thought
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about nursing as a profession want to move from norway to the u.s i'm wondering if nursing
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something heck is paywall yeah you can make six figures you're doing it go jq w so man i remember
01:16:36.420
being up 48 hours straight in x spaces during the boom boom tel aviv days yeah good times uh
01:16:40.580
desert joe and there's gonna be they're definitely gonna fight again um update from this uh on the
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ship podcast he is stable now recovering suspect has also been apprehended what what are you talking
01:16:50.100
about bro i'll look into that okay honest uh diecast says big shout out to sleep for having the x space
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out there best runs uh and best info space facts cool why try uh says two things first i just realized
01:17:04.580
drake as a j and that explains everything yep and the second is i came across a video on x where
01:17:08.660
an israeli soldier testified and says october 7th they were told to stand down from 5 a.m
01:17:12.500
to 9 a.m uh yeah i think we discussed that a little bit i mean i posted it as well today
01:17:16.980
so i think um yeah let's see here uh robin kobe uh martin after years of interviewing thousands of
01:17:23.300
three or fours is it is it worth it to keep torturing yourself on after hours i don't know bro
01:17:26.980
do you what do you like it uh i mean just women are dumb like a lot of the girls that come on the show
01:17:32.660
are just dumb it is never like do you do you still enjoy it like yeah sometimes i like a bit
01:17:38.500
from time to time you know what i mean uh it's it but also it's because like it's the last show
01:17:42.580
of the day that i do too so i'm like fed up with these bitches by the time i talk to them
01:17:46.660
so um to get the brint of it yeah because i'm like you know towards the end i'm like oh my god
01:17:51.620
uh dh i like you but please don't downplay the lack of integration from muslims in europe
01:17:55.700
no but like real question like this is i talked about this in elijah's
01:17:59.220
show right like what what is it you mean by integration like what is it the integration
01:18:05.620
the worries that you want so my grandparents right came to the uk were in the 60s and i
01:18:10.180
explained this and when they came in the 60s they saw themselves as visitors right so they saw
01:18:15.300
themselves as foreigners and they thought we're gonna be here we're gonna help rebuild the country
01:18:19.300
we're gonna make some money and we're gonna go back and so whenever people would be like oh you
01:18:23.620
don't packy or break their windows or whatever they just be like look we're just gonna deal with it
01:18:28.500
we'll fix our windows up and whatever maybe so they didn't really integrate they saw themselves
01:18:32.900
as foreigners but what's happened is when you get to second generation third generation now they've
01:18:37.620
integrated now they've become part of society they see themselves as the same as a white british person
01:18:44.100
and so part of integration is that they feel like they're the same so therefore when that happens now
01:18:48.500
they'll respond in the same manner so that is integration so like my question to you is like
01:18:53.140
genuinely i'm not trying to like debate if you have something like let's hear it i've just never
01:18:57.220
heard anyone give some strong enough point like what is it the integration you seek so if you mean
01:19:01.700
in terms of values then again when my grandfather came he had conservative values he came to a
01:19:06.100
christian country said oh guess what we both believe in family values we both believe in defined gender
01:19:10.820
roles we both disagree with lgbtq like these values are very similar to our muslim values but now obviously
01:19:18.180
the uk has become a left-wing lgbtq country so if you mean that they don't integrate in that way then yeah
01:19:24.820
yeah that's true because when they came to the uk and the dream of the uk and they had children there
01:19:29.860
and their children had children which is myself and i had children it was the idea that it was a
01:19:34.260
conservative country so if you mean integration to liberal leftist ideologies then you're right but
01:19:39.300
then i don't think christianity integrates into that and that's why it's died in the uk so like i
01:19:44.020
genuinely want to know what you mean now if you mean there's certain religious people like dawah guys who
01:19:48.900
are like a bit out there and a bit more extreme in certain positions then okay that's a worth
01:19:54.980
conversation worth having um but even if you look at them they just act very british so when they're
01:20:00.580
like yeah yeah bro we're gonna take over that's how brits act so it's just like genuine question
01:20:05.140
what do you mean um i got here james says uh i'm not out of shape but i just started hitting the gym
01:20:11.860
again i'm uh 6 370 pounds to start taking creatine to increase gains and sometimes when i'm
01:20:16.100
short uh you just got to get calories in bro one 170 pounds and 6 3 is uh you're a skinny
01:20:21.140
cot man uh al boys what's the least take on the future iranian war and what to expect we'll cover
01:20:25.700
that um hey man i got a future soldier my hands played early life for my three-year-old son he
01:20:30.660
started dancing okay uh silly one i like uh okay we got that one already and then also um yeah guys you
01:20:37.300
guys as you guys know the shift podcast who shows a lot of support and love um he was out doing some
01:20:41.700
debates man he got stabbed in the back by some crazy bastard man so prayers go out to him
01:20:46.100
and his uh family he you as you for those of you that are watching on rumble he gives a lot of you
01:20:50.820
broke his subs so you guys should uh you know obviously number one thank him and then two i
01:20:55.060
pray that he ends up okay um because you know he was out i guess doing debates or whatever and
01:21:00.020
someone stabbed him in the back several times so um you know obviously i wish him a speedy recovery
01:21:05.940
seems here that he lost a lot of bubble he's going to be okay um so um so that's really good news
01:21:11.060
um so you know condolences and prayers go out to him and his family and hope he has a speedy recovery
01:21:15.860
but i'm glad that he's all right and he will be um he'll be okay um going back to what we were saying
01:21:21.540
before uh we were talking about the um kibbutz and uh okay so yeah so they came in and they attacked
01:21:29.460
the radio towers got rid of them there okay um we talked about one of the main reasons why they came
01:21:35.460
in was to get the hostages that was the main reason that was their main objective they wanted to take
01:21:39.140
100. i didn't know that i didn't know what their preconceived you know amount of people they want
01:21:43.060
to take so they end up taking up what 250 almost right yeah which you think about logically they
01:21:47.460
just don't have the capability to take those people and to look after them and to keep them
01:21:51.780
as hostage it's a large number of people 250. it is it was unexpected the nova festival really did
01:21:57.060
throw a wrench in the situation okay so um what other reasons uh do you think have uh you know caused
01:22:04.420
october 7th i mean i'd say those two of them and obviously in terms of like from a personal
01:22:09.300
perspective passage is an occupation yeah yeah i mean i mean from a personal perspective like you
01:22:14.180
think about it from a psychology of somebody who's in palestine and we explained earlier in the space
01:22:19.860
i'm sorry early in the show the idea that um first of all how they intentionally kept them in a ghetto
01:22:26.820
how they never wanted to give them citizenship both within israel as a and as a separate nation
01:22:32.020
these people were terrorized they were kept in a in a concentration camp they were put on a calorie
01:22:36.980
diet which means that like whatever the number of calories is uh you you were given like for an
01:22:42.100
adult is what one thousand you're the expert on this what is it um 1500 that's what yeah i mean
01:22:47.460
yeah they gave them a diet is what they call it yeah yeah yeah they gave them like a diet yeah which
01:22:51.140
is crazy because like you know people say that they're not occupied but it's like bro they literally
01:22:54.980
control the food and water going exactly and they control the land sea and air and so just think
01:23:00.580
power everything yeah and so and then they regularly bomb they'd regularly destroy like this
01:23:05.860
el sheffar hospital uh if you dr mads gilbert he if there's this like he was in there in 2015 and
01:23:12.500
they basically bombed it and he thought they're all gonna die um and he's from norway so the point
01:23:17.940
being like the regular bombing of hospitals regular bombing of people kept us hostages and so
01:23:24.900
the idea is that look like this is an opportunity to break out when you break out against your
01:23:28.580
capital you are gonna act aggressive actually when i look at the actions of october the 7th
01:23:34.260
and i look at the psychology of a person just think about it if someone like yourself right
01:23:39.220
if you're put in that situation and then you're to face your capital how would you act yeah this is
01:23:44.260
your chance to accept you they're gonna go crazy yeah you're gonna go crazy like you some people
01:23:47.780
will knock him out some people will kill him yeah some people will want to mutilate him like you'd be
01:23:51.780
like you abused me for this long you murdered my brother yeah you murdered my sister yeah you just you
01:23:57.220
know you you basically have kept my father in 20 years as hostage and raped him in his in his
01:24:03.380
now you're in front of me like i would say they've acted very calmly on october 7th when you take all
01:24:08.580
of that into context yeah except i think um that's something that yeah that people aren't aware of is
01:24:12.740
like you know because you know zionists always like to start the you know the argument on october 7th
01:24:18.420
but they never talk about what led to october 7th right the occupation the you know any these these
01:24:24.260
hamas fighters there were kids at one point right one ended up happening a lot of times
01:24:28.180
they get radicalized because a family member was killed or somebody was put you know taken
01:24:32.500
and put in prison without charge or someone in their family like any of these guys i guarantee you
01:24:37.060
if you ask them why did you join up in the resistance they'll tell you oh yeah because
01:24:40.580
this happened to my family member this person happened here and it's just a very sucky situation
01:24:44.980
because um because the israelis don't want to give them any type of sovereignty or um you know
01:24:51.940
self-determination this is what ends up happening and then they expect them to sit there and just
01:24:56.180
be occupied in their open-air prison and just take it and then they've seen in the west bank right
01:25:00.340
where there isn't any resistance they're losing all the west bank yeah yeah they're losing all their
01:25:04.740
homes there and it's just happening in a slightly slower process yeah well actually yeah compared to
01:25:08.820
gaza it's nuts that like some some dude from brooklyn yeah right harvey from brooklyn can go to the
01:25:13.380
west bank harvey steen you know harvey steen you know can literally go to the west bank and take land
01:25:18.660
uh and take a home there from someone that was born in you know from the land isn't that nuts
01:25:23.380
yeah it's mental and someone who's um palestinian who's born there who could show their heritage for
01:25:28.900
the last like two three four generations is not allowed back in the country yeah that's you know
01:25:33.940
and that's what's going on chat like i don't think people understand like the ridiculous amounts of um
01:25:40.100
oppression that these people are dealing with like it's not like this hate just came out of nowhere
01:25:43.460
and there's this like vacuum now obviously it sucks because obviously there's this at least inevitable
01:25:47.540
violence but i always find it interesting how the pro-zionists always start the conflict on
01:25:52.900
october 7th they never started with you know what led to that what you know they never talk about what
01:25:58.020
you know they they never talk about the abraham accords they never talk about the alexa mosque
01:26:01.940
that's another thing no one talks about the theological side as well which with uh i mean the operation
01:26:05.860
was called the alexa flood but it never gets talked about in western media yeah you know what
01:26:10.180
it's funny danish d'Souza was talking about this on a couple because what happened was i was uh
01:26:14.500
danish d'Souza uh like obviously i do prep for like certain shows right uh as i did for this one
01:26:19.620
and like danish d'Souza um was doing a couple of interviews you know promoting his october 7th
01:26:24.100
uh thing obviously when does it come out it's out now it's out now yeah okay um what's the name of
01:26:29.460
it it's called dragon something oh yes i saw a promo for it yeah and um where it is obviously he
01:26:35.780
didn't make these points on elijah's show because elijah was a bit aggressive towards him and was like
01:26:40.660
kind of debating him where he didn't have that in previous ones uh-huh but like one of the
01:26:44.660
arguments he made was this he said i think it's interesting to debunk it because he's the same
01:26:48.980
argument he keeps making because his aim of his movie is this he wants to bring christians back
01:26:53.460
into this like christian christian judo christian judo christianity yeah yes and so he's like look um
01:27:01.780
what you find in the story is or what you find in the story is a very christianity uh christianity
01:27:07.300
take ideology and what i mean by this is this he gives this example he says in the past you had in
01:27:12.980
the bible you have the philistines and right now you have the palestine palestinians and the names
01:27:18.420
are very similar and the philistines fought the israeli is israel in arabic it's called philistine
01:27:24.420
that's what you call them in arabic yeah yeah and so in the bible the philistines fought the
01:27:29.140
israelites and they tried to ridicule them and they tried to ridicule samsung and they made him dance
01:27:33.860
around as when they took him as a hostage and the philistines did that and the palestinians did that
01:27:38.660
and you can see what's the similarity the similarities in the name that's his argument and so he's like
01:27:44.580
you're seeing this biblical biblical story being reincarnated again right now where the palestines
01:27:52.740
are the bad guys but what's interesting is actually the same story works against him
01:27:56.740
because who were the philistines they were europeans okay and so what he's saying is in
01:28:05.620
that movie he's saying the philistines were our enemies the europeans okay and they'll always be
01:28:09.860
our enemies i didn't see the movie so but you watched i'm guessing no no i just watched his
01:28:13.700
interview okay okay the interview about us okay and so he says the philistines um are europeans and
01:28:20.820
they said the philistines are going to be our enemies forever which is amazing he said the europeans are
01:28:25.620
going to be our enemy if somebody actually understands it he's literally saying like
01:28:29.620
what that story tells you is the europeans are going to be our enemies forever which is whites
01:28:33.940
or christians and the second part of the story is the guy who is being ridiculed is samson okay
01:28:40.900
what's the samson option oh yeah destroying everything but actually more specifically destroying
01:28:46.020
european countries yeah destroying america and european countries destroying their allies because
01:28:50.740
they said the allies didn't work hard enough to save them and therefore we're going to bomb london
01:28:54.740
we're going to bomb paris we're going to bomb uh brussels we're going to bottom new york we're going
01:29:00.260
to bomb l.a and so it links to this whole philistine thing which actually is his hatreds of whites and
01:29:06.260
christians even though he's trying to use that story to bring them yeah i'm not too familiar with that
01:29:11.460
with that stuff um just because you brought the theology upside yeah yeah yeah yeah no i know of course
01:29:15.860
of course i was i was gonna say the um the other thing too is uh with the red cows yeah the heifers as
01:29:21.940
well with them you know trying to and they uh they uh they killed one of the cows july 1st what's that
01:29:27.380
guy what's the what's this um adam king adam king he went on tim cast yeah and he said yeah i was in
01:29:33.460
israel and we we uh we sacrificed the cow like as a go-run as a as a as like a test run i was like what
01:29:38.900
the fuck no he brought the ashes to the studio no wasn't he claiming that they lied to everybody and
01:29:43.860
said it was a test run but it was the real legitimate thing oh i don't know i just know that he brought
01:29:48.580
ashes of a cow yeah to the studio yeah because they say it's like spiritual healing and spiritual
01:29:53.540
yeah some yeah some shit like that yeah so um yeah so i think their claim is that they sacrificed
01:29:58.980
the red heifer okay so you think they killed one of the real ones because they have like no no that's
01:30:02.180
their opinion yeah like i don't believe in their jewish no no no no no no no of course i know you don't
01:30:06.820
believe in it but i'm saying but i'll say like you uh i mean as in you think that they actually
01:30:10.660
killed one of the red cows the red heifer i believe that's what he was claiming yeah okay okay
01:30:14.820
because he tried to make it like they didn't kill one of the red cows they killed like another one
01:30:18.820
but who knows they could be lying about that but yeah they definitely did a test run in july
01:30:22.500
and then you know you got these people in the government like um ben gavir who goes up to the
01:30:26.820
temple mount all the time well he goes up to the alaska mosque all the time to try to provoke because
01:30:31.860
jews are not supposed to go there but what he'll do is he'll take his security he'll go up there
01:30:35.940
you know and obviously agitate the muslim community there he does it all the time and it's just
01:30:40.740
judaism right because according to their religion they're not meant to rebuild yeah yeah right
01:30:47.380
according to their religion what's meant to happen is the messiah is meant to come back
01:30:53.700
and then the third temple is meant to be rebuilt and their belief is that if they do attempt to
01:30:57.540
rebuild the third temple and accelerate it it'll destroy it'll get destroyed and they'll be destroyed
01:31:02.500
like a thousand years so they won't get the eschatological coming uh uh sorry third temple
01:31:08.500
if they do it themselves yeah so they're actually going against their own belief system by doing it well
01:31:12.500
yeah this isn't this why like the very um religious yeah acidic i don't know if it's acidic
01:31:18.580
yeah the acidic ones are like you know they're more they're like pro-palestine they're like hey this is
01:31:22.740
where you know you're you're uh you're accelerating the problem and this is not how we're supposed to
01:31:28.020
exactly they believe that if these guys rebuild the third temple these guys will remain without a land
01:31:35.540
for a thousand years okay so the the so okay so the orthodox guys believe if these um zionists
01:31:42.420
keep doing this that they're gonna be without a land for another thousand okay that makes sense
01:31:46.500
yeah because there's guys there's like uh they're like from brooklyn right a lot of them from like
01:31:49.780
some of them are from brooklyn yeah yeah you have a lot of them in israel and in israel they're oppressed
01:31:54.180
oh really yeah they're in israel too yeah i wouldn't think they'd be there because doesn't that
01:31:57.860
defeat the whole purpose of them being there yeah i think it's just because they're in the land but
01:32:01.300
they don't believe there should be a state so they should be dissolute in the land but they
01:32:04.820
shouldn't be an israeli state gotcha so what you mean and so in in israel there's a large proportion
01:32:11.140
of them some say like 10 15 20 percent but to the to the ones i speak to this is the number is larger
01:32:17.220
but they don't show it because the israelis try and basically harm them yeah israelis basically
01:32:21.380
trying to sterilize them israelis take the water supply off them so because they get oppressed and abused
01:32:26.340
by the zionists what they do is don't tell their real number but these guys have a lot of children
01:32:30.660
they have like eight ten children yeah yeah yeah these are the ones that are actually like breeding
01:32:33.620
like crazy right so um yeah because for those of you that are wondering like when you're walking
01:32:38.020
around in brooklyn and stuff and the guys have like the curls and they're super they're wearing the
01:32:41.460
all the black and stuff like that these very devout ones these uh a lot of these guys don't believe
01:32:45.940
in um israel for you know religious purposes or whatever although here you have a mix right
01:32:50.500
because here you have the ones who dress up like that we do and they are zionists i went to in
01:32:55.460
in new york i went to uh we're a lot of secular ones here too yeah yeah i went to new york oh so you're
01:33:00.260
talking about miami in new york oh no i'm talking about miami because you said here but you mean
01:33:03.540
you mean you mean new york go ahead keep going in new york we went out when i went to new york i went
01:33:07.140
with some of my friends to the tunnels oh you know what yeah they they let people go in those
01:33:11.940
tunnels yeah i know i'm not in like we watched what we went to see them from outside gotcha yeah yeah
01:33:16.820
it was like it was still open though there was still lights on there so they tried to make it look
01:33:19.940
if they shut down but they had they had all that they shut it down no no they never shut it down they made
01:33:24.900
us think like they shut it down but they're still doing it but there was all these people dressed like
01:33:29.220
that and guess what it's new york they had their own police they had their own security force yeah
01:33:36.180
they had their own fire brigade they had their own security service and then they had the normal police
01:33:41.620
and this was when there was no threats whatsoever so this is the level of spending that goes on
01:33:46.580
towards uh the jewish community compared to anyone else and then they have their own kind of police force
01:33:52.740
they have their own legal system so they always complain about these things about muslims but in
01:33:56.100
reality these guys are doing it oh yeah yeah no they have their own like completely owned communities
01:34:01.060
you know no one else lives there um completely isolated um okay so we went over uh the reasons
01:34:09.940
basically all right frank go to your bed bed um so we had um frank bed bed go sorry guys he's uh frank is uh
01:34:19.780
wants to get involved to go um what else was i saying um okay so we went over the the the re frank
01:34:26.740
bed bed bed go sorry chat um whenever i have a guest he's like he gets excited um yeah he's very friendly
01:34:36.180
see look see there he is right again hey bed bed go to your bed i need a haram please yeah yeah man
01:34:45.780
um okay now what else was i gonna say uh we covered the the what and the why's um anything else you
01:34:54.500
wanted to say i guess as far as oh we can start the bunking the lies now yeah we we went over so
01:34:58.660
basically october 7th happens they go in the goal is to get hostages um obviously five back is the
01:35:03.780
occupation they want to get 100 they ended up getting like double that yeah um obviously as israel's
01:35:09.140
responding they're in shooting indiscriminately into the kibbutzes with tanks apache helicopters they just
01:35:14.820
see thermal vision they're seeing things you know with the green thermal vision they're shooting at
01:35:18.980
everybody you know we do know now that you have gone did admit that the animal directive was activated
01:35:23.060
on that day um actually as a matter of fact he says it in an interview even yeah uh here he says it um
01:35:31.140
that in some place it wasn't activated and that was a problem i'll show you guys real fast here
01:35:36.580
they asked him straight up was the order to use the animal direct was the order given to use the
01:35:42.260
animal directive i think tactically in some place it was another place it was not and that is a
01:35:49.620
problem so even there you go this this is it was the defense minister at the time yeah this guy's
01:35:53.940
equivalent to like rp hexath chat right he was the guy that ran the military on on october 7th so um
01:35:59.860
the order came down hey shoot everybody don't let anybody get back into gaza because they knew
01:36:03.780
what was going to happen and they knew that you know whenever they have hostages it puts them in
01:36:07.540
a very bad spot speaking of hostages because um i was debating this one idiot in front of uh the club
01:36:12.260
the other day and he mentioned the bibas family can you talk about the bibas family i know you did a
01:36:16.420
deep dive into that and for the people that don't know the bibas um here i'll pull them up while uh
01:36:22.180
suli talks about this yeah the bibas family is israel killed him right so what happened was that's
01:36:28.020
controversial take well according to what they say okay um but yeah the bibas family um
01:36:36.340
and they're notable because the red hair yeah yeah yeah and uh just because the image because they had
01:36:41.860
the video of them um but they were basically taken to israel if you remember the father basically comes
01:36:47.780
out on a video many times and says look you keep bombing us and we like almost died so many times and
01:36:55.220
then what happens is israel actually bombs and kills the bibas family and what israel did was
01:37:00.100
they lied initially and they said oh hamas has killed the bibas family i believe on october the
01:37:05.220
7th i can't remember what the lie was now so we were saying when the father told said israel you guys
01:37:10.180
are bombing like he uh like he made a video with hamas while under captivity yeah and he told them this
01:37:15.060
okay okay now what's your response to people that might say oh well hamas told him to say that as
01:37:19.780
propaganda or under this is possible logically right of course yeah it's possible uh but just just
01:37:24.580
think about it from a rational perspective so like we're being quite rational we're saying it's
01:37:27.620
possible like hostages can't be forced to say something at the same time israel were bombing
01:37:32.340
indiscriminately they were how do they know that there's an israeli hostage there or not they
01:37:36.820
clearly do not and so the idea that it happened is quite high furthermore um the other hostage
01:37:43.620
what's her name again not me or shem who got raped by the um with the by the zionist but the um
01:37:49.620
um what's the other one the other one anyway the one who's they put a nia nima nia nima something
01:37:56.180
anyway she she literally said she said oh i got hit and they were like oh my god she got hit by by
01:38:04.980
hamas you know when she came back and she said no no no i got hit by the uh by the uh by the israelis in
01:38:11.140
terms of when they bombed the collateral of the building would hit me oh and so then they basically shut
01:38:18.020
that down yeah but uh so that's confirmed like hostages were basically hit and attacked by israel
01:38:23.860
when they were bombing because they did it discriminately so logically it makes sense that
01:38:27.620
it was happening and they probably thought let's take an opportunity let's get him on the on video to
01:38:32.100
say and then he said it and then what happens is israel then kills him and so then they must
01:38:37.300
release it so look you killed him and actually the father comes out and says you kill my children
01:38:41.220
because if i remember right now uh the father comes out and literally says you've killed my children
01:38:45.540
in this bombing yeah and i mean you know whenever i uh debate the zionists on this i i tell them like
01:38:52.980
what is their incentive to kill hostages that's it's absolutely stupid for them to kill like that's
01:38:57.540
the only leverage they have is to keep them alive and because obviously they're gonna be worth more
01:39:01.060
alive right so if you want to go ahead and say these guys the most evil people ever find no problem
01:39:05.380
but let's be pragmatic here why would they relinquish the only leverage they have you know and kill the
01:39:10.900
hostages makes no sense um so i think if anything um a lot of these hostages that were killed were
01:39:17.540
killed by either being starved or bombed by israel since israel was literally a blockade on the in the
01:39:23.620
area and bombing the hell out of the area as well where um you know because they i'm assuming they
01:39:28.740
have to move these these hostages around a lot they were moving them around right so one day they might
01:39:32.260
be in a building and above ground where they're susceptible another day they might be in the tunnels
01:39:35.540
another day might be in another building so you know they don't know as much as israel says oh yeah
01:39:40.340
we notify everybody with the leaflets or whatever and they're gonna get bombed uh when they're gonna
01:39:44.420
get bombed they still don't know when a lot of these attacks are gonna come oh they don't and and the
01:39:49.060
thing is when a lot of the attacks occur as you know i remember when i did your show i think it was
01:39:52.500
one of the first few times yeah they'd base oh no it was when i was debating destiny um on your show
01:39:57.140
and um what happened was um they told people to go to rafa you remember yeah and then they bombed that
01:40:02.500
specific area in rafa yeah so they were just telling people to go to certain areas and then bombing them
01:40:06.420
and then bombing them anyway yeah you want to talk about because this is another thing i get a lot
01:40:09.860
with the leaflets and you know people being notified and also the bullshit they get messages
01:40:13.940
you want to touch on that a little bit with the leaflets and the text messages and all this other
01:40:17.380
stuff that then yahoo he says he goes on interview and says we send out millions of text messages we
01:40:21.780
pass out thousands of leaflets we drop we airdrop it we're dropped food do you want to kind of give
01:40:25.940
the real yeah yeah cost so first of all it's ridiculous because i've just given the example of
01:40:29.060
where they tell people to go to certain areas and then they bomb them now in terms of when they
01:40:33.620
send leaflets right a lot of times people can't trust those leaflets because what will happen is
01:40:40.020
their concern is that for example if they were to go to a specific location that location will be
01:40:44.740
targeted so because what israel's done is created a psychological operation where they'll bomb certain
01:40:49.860
areas where they tell people to go at the same time they'll bomb their specific building and so they're
01:40:54.820
left in a quandary and in reality it's not really a warning so for example if i said to maren look maren
01:40:59.780
every anytime you go to the green room you're gonna be safe right you're gonna think like no
01:41:05.060
problem i'm gonna go to the green room yeah but if you're like a maren every time you go to the
01:41:08.660
green room you're gonna be safe and then i've bombed the green room and you're like damn he's
01:41:12.020
gonna bomb the green room but then you you're in the red room and then you bomb the red room now
01:41:16.140
you're like flip we just can't trust anything because they could bomb the red room they could
01:41:19.540
bomb the green room it's like not being given a warning anyway so that's the reality of what happens
01:41:24.140
like they can't trust the warnings because the warning could be like misinformation in
01:41:28.420
in terms of bombing them, which is actually what happens.
01:41:32.280
So, okay, that makes sense because they get the leaflets that says go here,
01:41:37.380
but in the past when they've went those places, they've been bombed.
01:41:40.400
So, like, they might say, do I even need to move?
01:41:45.920
It becomes a psychological – it's actually worse than being warned
01:41:48.160
because it becomes a psychological operation in addition to actually being killed.
01:41:53.340
They'll tell you to go somewhere, and there's been times where they bombed them.
01:41:55.660
So, that puts you in a weird spot because you're like, am I going to go take the chance
01:41:58.800
to go there and get blown up, or am I going to stay here
01:42:01.660
because now that they've notified everyone, they might not blow up here.
01:42:08.740
You know, they've talked about the, you know, Hamas stealing all the food
01:42:15.360
Yeah, that's just completely fake because, first of all –
01:42:20.560
Because he's been doing the rounds in trigonometry.
01:42:23.060
He said this. I think he said this against the Nelk boys.
01:42:26.600
He said this to Tatum that, you know, Hamas steals 90% of the food.
01:42:31.400
Yeah, this is fake because if you look at the people who are part of the GHF,
01:42:34.620
like Anthony Aguilar, like, obviously, I disagree with him at some point,
01:42:37.320
but he literally says that, look, Hamas, we don't even see them.
01:42:42.980
And so, this whole idea that Hamas is stealing the food is just completely fake.
01:42:46.820
In reality, the Israelis are just not allowing the food in.
01:42:49.200
And so, when they show them videos of them trucks, that's outside the border.
01:42:57.320
Now, in Palestine itself or in Gaza itself, there is certain situations where,
01:43:02.700
obviously, you know how it is, survival of the fittest.
01:43:04.880
The stronger people are getting the food before, like, the weaker people.
01:43:08.480
And it's also important to note that there's another militia group in the area
01:43:30.260
There's a group of militia fighters similar to Hamas that are backed by the Israelis
01:43:36.900
And people think it's Hamas, but it's really not.
01:43:39.540
Yeah, I thought it was Al-Shabaab, but maybe I remember.
01:43:41.740
Yeah, those are Ethiopian guys, I think, or the Somalian guys.
01:43:46.500
But they basically are funded by Israel, and they basically,
01:43:54.560
And now, there are certain people who, if you're stronger,
01:43:57.720
you're going to get the food before the weaker people as well.
01:43:59.700
If it's, like, it's just the way it is in a survival of the fittest situation.
01:44:03.380
And, yeah, guys, don't think, like, we're denying that, like,
01:44:05.780
people are fighting over food and stuff like that.
01:44:08.240
But I think it's important to understand that this is being manufactured
01:44:15.640
Like, you know, if this was true, that these guys were stealing the food
01:44:18.920
and jacking it up and selling it at a high price,
01:44:24.760
If Hamas were stealing the food, the people would turn on them.
01:44:42.380
There will be some people, because this is the tactic that Israel's used, right?
01:44:45.500
Which is this tactic of killing civilians significantly
01:44:50.400
and then hoping that that causes civilians to turn on the government.
01:44:56.280
And so, from the people in Gaza's perspective, when civilians are being killed,
01:45:02.120
some of them would be thinking, like, okay, things might be better without Hamas, right?
01:45:06.740
More likely to cooperate with the Israeli government and stuff.
01:45:09.020
And so, there would be this kind of incentive to turn on Hamas, and yet they haven't done that, right?
01:45:14.660
So, this claim that they don't support Hamas kind of as weak because they would have turned on Hamas already.
01:45:19.920
But if Hamas was stealing the food as well, then they would definitely turn on Hamas.
01:45:23.760
So, it makes no sense whatsoever that Hamas would be stealing the food.
01:45:25.980
And it would open them up to, like, a lot of susceptibility, like, them getting killed and attacked and everything else.
01:45:31.780
Like, they're hiding a lot of these guys in tunnels.
01:45:35.360
You're going to go above ground and steal a whole bunch of food?
01:45:41.660
But, again, Netanyahu's got to sell a certain story, right?
01:45:45.280
You know, all he does is lie during his interviews at this point.
01:45:48.260
But a lot of the people that he interviews, like, they're not going to really say, hey, well, is that really true?
01:45:51.780
Because, you know, a bunch of the human rights organizations, too, have come out and said, you know, that's false.
01:45:56.840
That they're stealing all this food that they claim.
01:45:59.360
Yeah, like, nearly every unbiased person, even when they've been in Gaza, outside, have literally said the same thing.
01:46:07.060
And we know that there's just a blockade in general.
01:46:09.920
I mean, it's funny because, like, they brought in all these American influencers.
01:46:14.220
And they're here saying, like, look at all this food that's here.
01:46:16.460
And it's like, yeah, that's the fucking point, dude.
01:46:23.520
Like, that can't be in a few others were saying that.
01:46:25.640
And the other point, which is important to debunk, is this claim that Hamas are operating in tunnels underneath hospitals and schools.
01:46:38.320
Is every hospital destroyed except for one now?
01:46:56.280
Like, the amount of, like, pain and suffering there is, is unbelievable.
01:46:59.480
like things we've seen we can never recover from it many of them have ptsd and one of them just
01:47:03.940
cries because like they were just assassinating kids like literally just getting a gun and just
01:47:08.520
like you can just see like a bullet to the head isn't going to be anything else except an
01:47:11.400
assassination they're like it's shocking like sometimes like there's so less food there that
01:47:16.580
they don't have to give anesthesia you know like normally where you say look once you're going to
01:47:20.360
go under under anesthesia don't eat for six to twelve hours they don't need to tell them that
01:47:23.620
because they've got enough food it's just so bad um but that's the last hospital and so yeah they
01:47:29.000
bombed all the hospitals there were 30 right before i believe there was 30 yeah above 30 and
01:47:34.580
so what happened was they um they claimed that the hamas are under hospitals but we've seen that all
01:47:40.940
that's been debunked you remember the calendar yeah yeah tell them about that one yeah there was like a
01:47:44.760
there was the one where they said look this is a rotor of a hamas uh fighters and then when they
01:47:49.140
showed it it was literally a calendar in arabic of the names of like the days of the week monday
01:47:54.680
tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday and so and then that was one the second thing was they'd
01:48:00.200
taken guns into the the um into the certain areas certain areas where there's you know magnetic areas
01:48:08.100
or magnetic rooms where it wasn't possible that there would be weaponry in there and uh it was
01:48:12.720
is this it right here is this one this one was it yeah that's a uh that's this
01:48:16.040
an air break that says we declare some more we are in operations monday tuesday wednesday
01:48:24.680
all right yeah this spokesman right here they're making fun of him
01:48:32.300
after showing uh viewers a weekly calendar as evidence
01:48:37.220
to support israel's claims of al-ranzi hospital
01:48:47.240
this is a guardian list where every terrorist writes his name and every terrorist has his own
01:48:56.440
shift guarding the people that were here bro that's crazy man it's literally a calendar with
01:49:04.320
the days of the week written in arabic and they're making fun about this shit but sorry keep going
01:49:08.140
but yeah this is like the bullshit that they do and like the fact they're like oh oops we should
01:49:11.740
have put that one out this doesn't work and look there's many genuine people who've been to gaza
01:49:16.160
who don't have any kind of allegiance to like they're not palestinian they're not muslim
01:49:21.420
they're just western people who've gone there like dr mads gilbert he's a norwegian guy
01:49:26.020
went to palestine obviously he's banned from palestine now but he goes there as a doctor
01:49:29.640
and he's been going there for many years and he was there during now during this uh since
01:49:33.700
after october 7th and he literally said we never saw anyone any hamas member we never saw any hamas
01:49:39.300
person there and if there was i would say because i would disagree with it like there shouldn't be any
01:49:44.020
kind of military person within this sanctuary of a hospital so this and actually the only people
01:49:49.060
who've uh been in hospitals pretending to be hamas uh be is israelis right if you remember
01:49:54.860
so in reality yeah they went into hospitals dressed up yeah here i'll show you guys this
01:49:59.900
i actually showed this to them before um but keep going yeah so that's the only people who actually
01:50:04.180
when it comes to military personnel being in a hospital the only time it was done was by israelis
01:50:11.060
that's it yeah right here undercover israeli forces infiltrate a hospital in the west bank
01:50:21.180
and kill three militants now this is the west bank but they were doing this in gaza as well
01:50:25.420
that coming up hey guys they do operations they do shit like this all the fucking time in israel bro
01:50:30.740
studying because like i told you guys before there's you know you got mizrahi jews that are literally
01:50:36.200
arabs right that that or or some of them are even palestinians because there's israeli palestinians
01:50:41.120
as well a new proposal for a truce in gaza but says it's position okay but um what's uh i'm trying
01:50:51.000
to think here what's um so we covered the myths the mass you want to talk about the mass grapes real
01:50:55.960
quick the bunk that one real quick yeah yeah um so that one's so obviously they claim that there was
01:51:02.520
mass grapes now the in reality if you look at it you mentioned about the gopros they say they've got
01:51:07.600
all the gopro footage so why is it that when they've got all the gopro footage there's none of it has been
01:51:13.040
shown there's no videos of any form of rape they showed like a video of some woman who wasn't dressed
01:51:20.720
that well but like they're at the nova festival right yeah yeah furthermore they showed a fake
01:51:26.620
uh um a fake one of this kosovan woman which was from the kosovan war which ended up being debunked
01:51:33.660
we debunked that at that time oh okay and what it is is when they get to the picture from another
01:51:37.760
conflict yeah exactly and so when it comes to the mass rape there's zero evidence for it
01:51:42.780
now there was an investigation right by the un from illa pattern she went to the united she went to
01:51:49.820
israel sorry from from the un and she went oh that's me a shame right so this was uh one of the
01:51:55.860
first people that was released in the hostage negotiations guys so i was closed in the dark
01:52:00.700
room not allowed to talk not allowed to be seen to be heard hidden there's a terrorist looking at
01:52:11.940
you 24 7 looking raping you with his eyes is that how you felt and she goes obviously
01:52:22.420
yeah it's such a bad look so oh he was graping me with his eyes okay bro okay so what happened to
01:52:33.060
her when she went back to israel you want to tell them that story it's a funny story go ahead yeah
01:52:36.800
what happened when she got back to israel so when she went back to israel she was actually raped by
01:52:40.620
her fitness instructor who was an israeli jew bro it's it's crazy it's crazy she she was kidnapped
01:52:50.460
by hamas they didn't grape her they gripped her with their eyes she gets back to israel and then
01:52:55.680
her personal trainer grapes her and you know what israeli said they said she's got mental health
01:53:00.700
problems that's what she said oh that uh oh they're claiming that okay so now she has mental health
01:53:06.420
issues with when she accuses an israeli yeah but before it's like so what did they do to you oh
01:53:10.620
they ripped you with your eyes oh my god that's yeah exactly i mean you could tell this bitch is
01:53:14.220
off her rocker look at her lips and shit man you could tell like like she's not all the more all
01:53:19.760
the marbles aren't there okay lights are on but nobody's home you know like anyone that does this
01:53:24.920
with their lips is like what the fuck so anyway uh but go ahead you were saying something yeah i agree
01:53:29.480
and then so the so what is the claim for rape because there's zero evidence it's this un official who
01:53:35.580
goes to israel who investigates it and then they pull out the big un report now if you look at the
01:53:42.140
un report i agree with the findings i don't agree with her conclusion because the conclusion doesn't
01:53:49.280
match the findings and by the way when she's doing the investigation the reason she does the
01:53:55.640
investigation is because an israeli her name is um ruth kadari she worked with premilla patten
01:54:06.060
and so she gets her to who are these people real quick so the premilla patten is the head of like
01:54:12.140
the sexual violence in the un okay and uh ruth kadari is an israeli jew who used to be part of the
01:54:21.920
un okay now is no longer part of the un is friends with premilla patten tells her to go to israel kind
01:54:29.160
of directs on what to do and she's been um activated by israel and has been put and by the israeli foreign
01:54:37.700
ministry to speak about rape in israel and to propagate it uh through various uh projects like
01:54:44.600
she did the dina project where she talked about the mass rape in israel and then she brings all of her
01:54:48.760
connections which premilla patten and the connections the un that make these false claims
01:54:52.580
of rape so it's basically an israeli asset paid by the israeli government that essentially gets the
01:54:59.800
un to come and do this investigation and basically i thought they didn't like let them in to do their
01:55:04.020
investigations or they didn't like israel wasn't transparent with um allowing the un to come in
01:55:08.780
and do their own because i know there's no physical evidence that was found no rape kits none of that
01:55:13.400
other stuff they relied very heavily upon the way that the bodies were found exactly right which we
01:55:18.320
know that zaka and these other organizations purposely manipulated bodies to make it look a
01:55:24.260
sort of way so they could get more donations that's right like um uh yassi slandberg i think the guy's
01:55:30.520
name is uh yeah yassi slandberg and some of these other guys where for those of you that are wondering
01:55:34.800
so obviously judaism just like with other religions like with christianity and islam the the people of the
01:55:40.360
book they typically want you to bury the individuals as quickly as possible and there's certain rituals
01:55:43.900
to prepare the body before you do so so these uh humanitarian organizations what they'll do is
01:55:48.460
when there's like scenes like this they'll come and they'll pick up the bodies immediately um to
01:55:52.760
prepare them for burial and since a lot of these guys are zaka and i forget the other one what's the
01:55:57.400
other one um uh here i'll try to find this here um max blumenthal did a good job of like um showing this
01:56:06.600
um but they get they're the first ones to get on the scene so what these guys do it did on october
01:56:12.460
7 which is like heinous is they adjusted the bodies in certain ways to create a certain narrative
01:56:17.640
that's right and to get more money because like one of these guys made 13 million dollars oh yeah
01:56:22.180
he made a lot of imagination yeah zaka was almost shut down here we go yeah yassi land out this guy's
01:56:27.340
bro i think this guy right here is probably one of the biggest criminals ever like this guy should
01:56:32.520
literally be tried and fucking punish the folks under the law because this guy's lies stand to
01:56:38.840
this day because he was one of the first people on there saying beheaded babies babies in ovens and
01:56:43.640
then when he got pressed he finally said oh yeah i used my imagination yeah what well guess what
01:56:49.160
idiot this imagination of yours has led to the systemic bombing and destruction of an entire group of
01:56:54.720
people because netanyahu relied on these fucking bullshit narratives to sell this war that's right
01:57:03.000
so him and david uh on one they found babies and adults be capitalized as a complete and total hoax
01:57:11.660
israel and its proxies fed the media new tales of atrocities that were even more lurid than before
01:57:17.060
many of these came from one particular individual yossi landau a religious fanatic from a self-described
01:57:24.440
rescue organization known as zaka of this 14 15 year old i had chopped off we were looking around
01:57:30.700
for the head couldn't find it 14 15 year old head chopped off despite lacking any forensic credentials
01:57:36.580
or paramedic training zaka volunteers were typically the first on the scene and therefore able to make
01:57:41.560
the most outlandish claims and again guys uh judaism has very strict um burial laws according to jewish law
01:57:49.960
so this is why they get on there they they have to you know deal with the body in a certain way
01:57:56.000
for a proper jewish burial so that's why a lot of these organizations exist uh these crisis type
01:58:01.220
organizations in israel see landau himself said that he never actually saw any atrocities take place
01:58:06.460
but that he used his imagination to tell the stories of the bodies he found when we go into the house
01:58:11.720
and we're using our imagination and what an imagination he has i would say about 280 we go in
01:58:19.300
the house and use our imagination these the 280 casualties i would say 80 percent was tortured
01:58:25.120
two piles of 10 children each were tied to the back burned to death and when we go into the house
01:58:31.460
and we see on one side of the dining room it was parents father and mother hands tied to the back
01:58:38.540
and the other side of the room against them there was two children a girl and a boy the same position
01:58:44.800
they were tortured main thing and i wouldn't call them animals to open up to all the food that was
01:58:50.920
prepared for the holiday and these terrorists sitting and eating while torching the father and the kid
01:58:56.300
that their parents and the kids they should see each other how they're being tortured how evil could
01:59:02.400
that be landau's lies were promptly amplified by israeli officials took dozens of children
01:59:07.460
bound them up burned them and executed them they beheaded soldiers their american counterparts
01:59:14.820
including secretary anthony blinken crazy were equally obliging a family of four a young boy and
01:59:21.440
girl six and eight years old and their parents around the breakfast table the father his eye gouged
01:59:26.640
out in front of his kids the mother's breast cut off the girl's foot amputated the boy's fingers cut
01:59:32.600
off before they were executed and then their executioner sat down and had a meal there was
01:59:37.180
just one problem for landau and those who amplified his questionable claims no bodies found in kibbutz
01:59:42.260
berry matched the descriptions he made the story of the beheaded babies was also implausible according
01:59:47.920
to official israeli government data which confirmed that only one baby kibbutz berry only one one baby was
01:59:55.020
killed and no children were killed yeah the the only um only children were children was allegedly two
02:00:06.540
it was a family the family's name was is it rossi or something i'll need to really look it up but
02:00:11.620
basically the um sister was an idf agent and then the parents obviously their parents were obviously x idea
02:00:20.460
uh-huh but the children obviously weren't because they were either 16 and 18 or 16 and 14 okay so
02:00:25.720
that's the only person under the age of 16 that was killed gotcha i'm sorry that's i think that's
02:00:31.660
either kibbutz berry or kibbutz kafar one of them two okay yeah 11 month old myla cohen was killed on
02:00:37.800
october 7th there you go just one and she was tragically shot by accident through a door not
02:00:42.200
decapitated landau also claimed so one baby actually died in the which is tragic of course um but no one
02:00:49.040
knows who killed her because she was shot through a door there's a high possibility that was because
02:00:54.420
remember it's kibbutz berry and that's why they were doing the short artillery fire oh highly likely
02:00:59.360
that it was israel that it was yeah yeah it was berry was uh kibbutz berry was like one of the big
02:01:03.860
the one of the um places where the the fighting was the most intense yeah between idf and hamas yeah
02:01:08.880
and a lot of people died okay gotcha gotcha fetus that hamas had cut from a pregnant woman's body
02:01:16.160
well not only that there was fighting between them a lot yeah there was a lot of israeli
02:01:20.620
artillery that was used in kibbutz berry compared to anywhere else gotcha the tanks were shooting
02:01:24.660
yeah the tanks were shooting in in there predominantly yeah yeah yeah even the tank operators
02:01:29.100
which just you guys know the people that operate the tanks are the lowest level low in the idea
02:01:33.580
okay the tank operators are considered retards okay and i remember i watched like an interview or
02:01:39.280
something like that and one of the tank operators was like this fat israeli woman and she was like
02:01:42.520
yeah they just told us to shoot into the kibbutzes they said fuck it just shoot in there
02:01:45.740
get everybody get kill everything like no one can take these hostages back because you guys can see
02:01:51.100
it creates a political nightmare for the israeli government yeah right because now they got to
02:01:56.960
pretend to care about the hostages exactly right so um which actually we'll talk about the what do you
02:02:03.920
think about the deal going on right now because i think there's been some um updates with the deal
02:02:08.720
down we turn it around she was pregnant woman bro the stomach is butchered up and a knife is still
02:02:16.060
stacking that baby the unborn baby yet the images never materialized even after the media requested
02:02:21.900
them one fact landau did prove however was that the business and the lie is always going to be more
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entertaining than the truth fabricating a truck when he started saying this shit people were running
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with it like oh we need to destroy uh uh gaza yeah they still say this stupid shit
02:02:36.580
is extremely lucrative for october 7th his zaka organization was nearly broke but in the aftermath
02:02:42.320
of the propaganda bonanza they fueled they raked in over 13 million dollars in donations in just a
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short amount of time the israeli paper haaretz reported that zaka volunteers were so desperate
02:02:51.060
to cash in on october 7th that they actually rearranged corpses discovered in the kibbutz scene
02:02:55.280
literally bam so there you go they're moving dead bodies around to paint a narrative to make more money
02:03:00.960
nuts and this comes from israeli media chat really playing with dead bodies in order to exaggerate
02:03:07.060
the sense of horror before sending the images to potential donors one of zaka's competitor
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organizations united hatzala this guy was like bro these guys can't no man we got to compete we got
02:03:16.580
to make our money too here to cash in as well it sent its director ellie beer to a republican jewish
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there we go that's the other guy ellie beer and yasi landau don't forget those names guys these two guys
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are two of the main atrocity propaganda creators for the october 7th narrative coalition fundraiser
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there beer rattled off a slew of lies that yasi landau would have been proud to have concocted
02:03:38.780
i saw in my own eyes a woman who was pregnant four months pregnant they came into her house in front
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of her kids opened up her stomach took out the baby and stabbed a little tiny baby in front of her and
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then shot her in front of her family and then they killed the rest of the kids i saw little kids who
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were beheaded we didn't know which head belongs to which kid we saw a little baby in the oven they
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put them in these bastards put these babies in the oven and put on the oven we found the kid a few
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hours later these guys should go to fucking jail for these lies bro these guys should go to fucking
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jail bro this is absolutely nuts absolutely nuts guys because remember these statements guys were being
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made in the days after 10-7 so emotions were high people were pissed off and they used this atrocity
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porn to justify the relentless fucking bombing campaign slash genocide that we're seeing now
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this was all used to substantiate their merciless um campaign on the gaza's trip bro
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story of a baby baked in an oven clearly contrived to evoke the horrors of the holocaust was immediately
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catapulted into the mainstream pro-israel press they baked their baby in the oven and boom america
02:04:50.800
media picked it up look at fox news the woman alive so that she could hear the screams of her child
02:04:54.920
melting little children that were put in the oven attacks that saw a baby put in an oven and baked
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alive and even though this lie was also quickly debunked it contributed to the narrative that israel
02:05:06.020
was confronting quote-unquote human animals as its defense minister yoav galant that's how he referred to
02:05:10.840
them put it again this is the same guy i showed you guys the interview of when he said that uh
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hannibal directive was activated and he goes right there we're fighting human animals and it therefore
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had the right to do anything and then in that speech or this this rant that he gave he said no water
02:05:24.140
no power no food no nothing gaza strip is closed off these guys are human animals that's who we're
02:05:29.820
fighting absolutely it's pretty much what he said in summit substance anything to prevent another
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look there's no denying that atrocities took and that proves right there that they're occupied the
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fact that israel can cut off all their shit like that yeah literally proves that they're occupied and
02:05:52.800
they have no sovereignty right people say oh well why are they fighting israel so much bro they have no
02:05:57.380
freedom the fact that they can control all the food and water and everything else coming in and
02:06:01.200
they can starve them like they are doing now and they've been doing it for like two years
02:06:03.900
that should tell you guys you know what it really is place when hamas attacked israel on october 7th
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but israel wasn't content to capitalize on the atrocities that had been clearly documented on camera
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they just weren't sufficient to give tel aviv the political latitude it needed to mount a full-scale
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ethnic cleansing yeah they could have used the footage they had with the gopros but he's right it was not
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shocking enough to see idf soldiers get killed they needed to you know put it in a certain way
02:06:30.560
where it's like oh no these guys are um killing kids and women graping them and all this other stuff
02:06:35.260
campaign netanyahu himself outlined the cynical logic directly oh look here he is meeting with zaka
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the the here he is meeting with zaka hey we need you guys to really live for us man you guys need to
02:06:47.580
get us this war dressed zaka volunteers and told him that their mission was to grant him the maneuvering
02:06:53.220
room he needed to totally destroy gaza bam you have an important role influencing public opinion the
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war is not only to take care of the 1400 people but also to give us a maneuvering room we know what
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that means so the image of hamas is a band of psychotic isis-like irrational muslim fanatics rather
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than a resistance group representing a popular constituency rebelling against being eternally
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confined to a de facto internment camp had to be reinforced over and over again they are savages
02:07:21.160
hamas is isis an act of sheer evil the utter depravity and the barbaric nature with which
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these terrorists and then these guys this this hasbar got pushed to the united states bro crazy
02:07:32.080
murdered and butchered innocent israeli civilians among israel's key talking points dutifully repeated
02:07:37.740
by its stooges in the u.s media was that the death toll on october 7 represented quote the largest
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killing of jews since the holocaust in the wake of the deadliest day for jews since the holocaust the
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largest loss of jewish life in a day since the holocaust it was the deadliest day for the jewish
02:07:52.840
people since the holocaust i would argue it's the deadliest day for jews since how they all repeat
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the same yeah they all repeat the same thing dude it's absolutely and to be honest like if this is
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like the most deadly day for jews since the holocaust it means they've had it easy because like
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you can give a huge number of examples of not just palestinians
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sorry guys go ahead not just palestinians but various other people being killed
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in large numbers in one day so it's just like just demonstrates that another person who i think is
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highly problematic and all this is david ben zion as well he was the guy who made the lie up about
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the 40 beheaded babies let me pull him up real quick david ben zion yeah let me see he um
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he basically made the lie about the 40 beheaded babies and if you look at his um history he was a
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settler he what he talked about how he wanted to destroy palestinians how he wanted to murder them
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i believe he put i believe if i remember right he did put palestinians you want me to search him
02:08:52.460
on youtube instead i don't know any uh david ben zion yeah i don't know if he's on youtube um
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videos he's the one who um yeah he's the guy oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i've seen this guy yeah
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we're stronger than them they are aggressive they are very bad they cut head of children cut head of
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women yeah this guy was um one of the yes dude yeah yeah you're right um yeah let me see if i get
02:09:19.600
youtube so i can get it better because instagram is fucking garbage
02:09:29.040
here we go bam uh we walk door after door we kill a lot of the terrorists
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we are stronger than them they are aggressive they are very bad they cut head of children cut head of
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women but we are stronger than them bro complete fucking that's the bullshit yeah that's yeah the
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uh that guy kidnapped from the festival you know it's funny they gave her that when they gave her
02:09:57.120
back she seemed fine she wasn't skinny and gone and all fucked up but like when the palestinians
02:10:01.920
they get them back they're all cooked this line was obvious hamas had set out to kill israelis
02:10:07.700
simply because they were jews not because they were military occupiers but was hamas solely
02:10:11.940
responsible for the death toll according to the official israeli line hamas slaughtered 1400
02:10:17.140
completely innocent people on october 7th but it's since been confirmed that at least 380 of the
02:10:22.580
dead were actually uniformed israeli soldiers engaged in maintaining the siege of gaza after
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several weeks the official death toll was reduced to 1200 of which 695 were israeli civilians
02:10:33.700
after coroners determined that at least 200 palestinians including fighters and average
02:10:38.020
citizens who entered israeli territory were contained in the original count in fact
02:10:41.780
photos of palestinians yeah this is the uh what you're talking about here where they were charged
02:10:45.300
so bad it's killed by israeli missiles inside israel's southern gaza envelope were distributed
02:10:49.940
as evidence of the savagery of hamas against jewish israeli civilians but these photos raise another
02:10:55.780
inconvenient question how did israeli helicopter and drone pilots differentiate between palestinians
02:11:01.300
and israelis in the chaos around the kibbutz scene
02:11:07.860
i was one of the first western journalists you want to say something go ahead no no i agree that's
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the point that we made earlier right that how could they differentiate between not just an israeli
02:11:15.380
soldier and israeli civilian but even a palestinian yeah we're using night vision third like it's
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they're literally using like thermal vision here like you can't see anything all you see is heat
02:11:23.220
signatures question and and and figures running around israeli military itself had in fact killed
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many israeli citizens on october 7 relying on interviews and israeli media with helicopter
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pilots who said they had no okay um i'll read some of these chats uh debbie silemon silemon for
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mayor of islamabad in london inshallah okay icu christ uh subscribe welcome to join the osss
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o slash grape or o slash uh uba says no it was a real cow done by a priest it was no test run pull up
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adam king video how he said they deceived the world
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you know what let me go ahead let's look this up yeah i think he's right
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it is speculated now that they may have a pure red heifer meaning no blemishes you're saying they
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can use it to consecrate the ground but what does that signify all the early christian church
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wait this chick backed out guys she's a coward um they're supposed to be yeah it's it's you know
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i might have to just but there was a six minute one just like five those six minutes oh okay where
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uh just just there oh yeah okay this was a big thing over at info wars and on the dissident right
02:12:48.500
media for the longest time did you this guy is so fucking insufferable man hate media yeah do you
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have my tweet that i actually put on my so i basically what happened if if you want to go
02:12:59.140
and he goes here no it was a real cow done by a priest it was no test run pull up the adam king
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video uh how he said they deceived the world okay we got it right now w stream solely on the debrief
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house let's fun go love you brother okay um jay says your mind seen her from purdue university i
02:13:12.740
just left my tp usa chapter meeting we went over charlie's possible wavering support of israel and
02:13:17.460
did agree uh did uh agree slash disagree activity on israel young because others are waking up
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what's your thoughts on the whole charlie kirk thing by the way you have uh i think israel did it
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you think israel did it okay yeah yeah i think um you want to give your theory like why yeah yeah
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sure so or do you want me to do it after the adam king thing whichever you want we've got
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yeah i'll read these then we'll do that then we'll do it okay um that way you have the full floor um
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um shout out shalomi zaians okay salute my brother appreciate your hard work as always got
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you slug for you uh what about the mass flood as a catalyst james says i've been eating about
02:13:50.580
2500 calories a day and plan to get to 180 in uh three months good dear chow i'm not a feminist but
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i'm against sharia patrols in europe and force hijabs like they did in masha amini and iran
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and child marriages honor killings which is very common in muslim countries
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um so first of all i'm not a feminist but i'm against sharia patrols in europe like there are no
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sharia patrols in europe this is what i mean like this is just fake news like give me an example
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like a real example of there being sharia patrols that's not happening a forced hijab like they did
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in like again there isn't forced a job now is there certain families who maybe tell their
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family members to wear a job yeah but how is it forced a job again like this is
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that is something that's internal within the family and if you look at it actually generally
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speaking in the uk the muslim community has become very much westernized there's not even that
02:14:35.780
many people wearing a job um child marriages that's just fake news that doesn't even happen
02:14:40.340
like give me an example of when child marriages happen and obviously you guys know my position on
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the aisha thing i don't believe she was an eye child honor killings honor killings again that
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doesn't happen much of course that's more cultural rather than religious so that's a cultural issue
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uh for certain cultures but not religion because in religion your honor killings not permissible
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uh they're they're not permissible anymore or at all like in islam you're not allowed to do honor
02:15:05.940
killings so when they do these honor killings it's a cultural issue so it might be within like the
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pakistani community it might be within the certain arab communities but in islam it's not
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honor killings is not permissible gotcha so is it not like it's not in the quran at all it's not
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it's not in any islam it's not even the hadith or anything nothing there you go well that's important
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that uh we have someone that's uh we have a legal in islam we have a very important
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concept concept which is found in western society right if you look at the american constitution
02:15:32.820
what's it based on it's based on the magna carta the magna carta is based on christianity so it's
02:15:39.380
christian values and christian law and it's very similar to islamic law islamic law has a legal
02:15:44.820
system we don't believe in vigilantism we don't believe in people taking the law into their own
02:15:48.340
hands everything goes through the legal system for example homosexuality homosexuality is not allowed
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but the only but they're all people off the roof is not exactly that's just that's just like extreme
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element within islam yeah but within the normal islamic law so it's not official this is just what
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groups of people yeah because the whole throwing them off the roof i was like what the
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fuck i've never heard of this before like that's a okay it's not in sharia law it's not in the four
02:16:11.060
schools of sharia and so what it what the quran says is homosexuality is not allowed yeah compare that
02:16:18.020
to the bible and torah they actually say murder the homosexual gotcha so already homosexuality is
02:16:22.740
punished by uh capital punishment whereas in islam it doesn't tell you how to punish them in the
02:16:28.180
quran it isn't but then what does the hadith say a hadith and then islamic law then there's difference
02:16:33.140
of opinion depending on what because when people say sharia law what do you mean do you mean the
02:16:37.620
Hanafi sharia law do you mean the shafi sharia law do you mean the maliki sharia law do you mean
02:16:41.540
the hanbali sharia law salafis don't really have a sharia law but i guess if they were in charge
02:16:46.580
there's would be a bit more harsher um so like for example me i'm hanafi hanafis are the most lenient
02:16:53.060
when it comes to some of these points is that what's is that what most of muslim world uh practices
02:16:57.700
hanapi yeah yeah especially people from pakistan and india and bangladesh okay and then central
02:17:04.180
asia and yeah but the most of the muslim world is yeah exactly and so within there there is punishment
02:17:10.180
but it's like for example it's uh admonishment but again it's only punishment it's not punishment
02:17:14.660
for being homosexual that's not allowed but if you did it in the privacy of your room you wouldn't
02:17:18.820
actually be punished it's when you do public indecencies when you're punished oh so the
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punishment of homosexuality is the same as heterosexual couple having sex in public
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okay adultery gotcha doing adultery which is isn't that a hundred a hundred slash no adultery is
02:17:35.060
death right no so in hanafi it's like it's lashes okay yeah and and again what is lashes lashes with
02:17:40.980
the paddle so it's again to restrict i thought it was pre-marital sex a hundred slash a hundred
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lashes right um if you're not married but if you're married it was death so in hanafi it's a
02:17:50.660
premarital is 40 and then uh adultery is 120 okay so it's not death which school says it's that i
02:17:59.460
believe it's the shafi school okay which is i'm guessing you're like because you're you're people
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from sudan with many shafi on this yeah probably yeah they're more extreme um w stream uh myron
02:18:10.980
solely on debrief house let's go okay shout shlomi zayans it is uh hadistic jew from brooklyn new york
02:18:16.420
okay two he says salute my brother appreciate you slug says what about the mass flood as a catalyst
02:18:21.380
i think we read that yeah ciao thomas rushmore hey myron uh what a comment from kamala and she was
02:18:26.660
100 right you're definitely one of the reasons she lost we're proud of you bro i appreciate that man
02:18:30.100
james b says i'm not out of shape but i just started lifting hitting the gym again i'm 6'3 of
02:18:34.260
170 should i start taking creatine to increase oh no i think we read that already um another freedom
02:18:39.620
uh flotilla coalition just got attacked on camera freedom flotilla uh coalition and the navy rated uh
02:18:45.540
freedom yeah i mean bro they're gonna keep the they're gonna make sure that they don't get to gaza bro
02:18:51.780
um meta says please cut the j-tube stream they're a bunch of ungrateful retarded maggots okay um
02:19:00.100
i haven't even looked at the youtube chat are they talking shit what else is new all right we'll
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watch this adam king thing here with the cows and then we'll get into uh silly's thoughts on charlie
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kirk the first slide first before we play the video about a month ago on july 1st the uh
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there was an announcement that um they were going to do a practice run of the red heifer
02:19:20.500
and prior to this the media outrage that the jews were going to go do this red heifer you had like
02:19:25.620
these lunatics like stew peters and and others who were saying this is going to usher in the
02:19:29.620
antichrist blah blah blah and it was like a real big media ballagon it was really a bad uh
02:19:34.500
a bad twist so they said that they and also the government wasn't going to let them so what they
02:19:38.420
did was they said we're just going to do a practice one with a disqualified one of the five
02:19:42.500
disqualified cats for for those of you that are wondering this is the guy that i think it was um
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mcginnis i think they were doing the debate uh i think nick fuentes was debating this guy
02:19:53.940
and that he asked them who if you had to get rid of one religion who would it be
02:19:57.460
he didn't even think he said catholics immediately yeah yeah he didn't say he didn't say muslims
02:20:01.940
everyone thought he was going to say muslims but if you ask him now he doesn't say anymore he's like
02:20:04.900
no no no that's not that's not what i meant because he's realized that that doesn't help with the
02:20:08.100
narrative yeah it doesn't really jews and catholics or jews and christians have had beef for 2000
02:20:12.260
yeah wait yeah wait yeah this this people muslims now is new like this is like a a modern uh you know
02:20:18.500
a modern uh i guess conflict it's a modern conflict it's modern based on 1948 yes yeah
02:20:25.700
yes it's like basically uh the 20th century shit right but with with with their beef with the
02:20:31.300
with the catholics and the christians oh man that goes thousands thousands of years yeah throughout
02:20:37.940
history yeah you know they've been most of the countries they've been exiled from guys were christian
02:20:42.900
countries right when they got you know like uh when they actually as a matter of fact even rabbi
02:20:48.340
shemuli right admits it to this day that um the ottoman empire saved them by taking them in in 1492
02:20:54.740
when they got kicked out of spain this is true so basically uh so you can blame there would be no jews
02:20:59.700
without muslims yes literally stayed saved them many times throughout history yeah so memonidas who's
02:21:06.020
one of their most foremost scholars literally hates christians because of them basically trying to like you
02:21:12.100
know excommunicate them and basically kill them off yeah this whole muslim um jewish beef is is new
02:21:18.260
because of the conflict in in the middle east but part to that it was it was it was always with
02:21:22.660
christians yeah and that's why it's so dumb when they're always like oh these guys be a lot of
02:21:26.980
beasts for a thousand years and they'll continue to beef which is not true the beef was always between
02:21:30.900
jews and christians always yeah and and i think um someone was saying it um the reason why you know
02:21:37.060
especially like the devout jews like this guy they're still pissed off about when they took the stuff out of
02:21:41.700
the temple like they got menorahs of theirs and old old uh textbooks and shit like that so they never
02:21:46.420
let that go right so yeah but he didn't even hesitate dude it was like no the catholic church 100 i'd
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get rid of them house because they got i think they have some of their shit in the vatican somewhere
02:21:57.380
the government said okay whatever they ended up going out doing a real cow uh one of the the cow's name
02:22:04.580
was tikva they made the offering and uh i actually they named the cow uh it was a real offering they
02:22:12.100
did it all what does tikva mean no idea oh by the way anyone speak hebrew here laws and i have with me
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some of the ashes right here red heifer ashes um and uh it's it's pretty incredible the red heifer the
02:22:25.860
last time that the red heifer was done was over 2000 years ago the first time it was done by moses the
02:22:30.820
second time it was done by ezra from the book in the bible and that shows you how long the ashes can
02:22:36.100
last for so a pure red heifer doesn't come about all the time and in this generation we had 21 of
02:22:42.100
them that were born pure they picked seven to bring to uh israel and um out of the seven israel only
02:22:51.220
allowed them to have five brought in and they've been sitting around just doing nothing because the
02:22:55.620
media outrage has been so astronomical about it uh but they but and they bought them from texas if
02:23:00.900
i'm not mistaken chat they spent like half a million dollars getting these cows it was not cheap but
02:23:04.980
the red heifer people they fooled everybody and they successfully performed the ritual about a month
02:23:10.260
ago now in the ritual uh you're supposed to have hyssop i have also hyssop that is from the actual
02:23:16.420
ritual and also the red heifer ashes and these get put into a clay jar and then sprinkled on people
02:23:23.620
in a healing ritual and it removes the impurity of death and allows for people to heal so since
02:23:29.300
this started they have been sprinkling on people there was an a man with alzheimer's who just started
02:23:34.180
remembering everything sight to the blind there's some real miracles that have happened in the last
02:23:38.820
month since this thing has gone down is this considered kabbalah practices no no this is not
02:23:45.220
because okay um but the ashes just like i have a little bag there was ten and a half gallons of ashes
02:23:51.220
and this is only a dime bag full and these ashes have been disseminated they're here to stay
02:23:54.820
they will never be found oh sorry so many people have them sorry if you're talking about the red
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heifer sacrifice no i think that's normal judas okay but like this action stuff yeah and using it
02:24:04.100
for healing i think that is this is about this is considered kabbalah okay this little bag can
02:24:07.860
would this be considered um would this be considered like uh witchcraft i mean under and sorcery under like
02:24:16.100
islam this is controversial so i'll tell you the two different opinions okay so obviously if you
02:24:21.620
shout out to the other guy with the sub appreciate you man on kick good nice um so uh
02:24:27.460
according to like obviously like talafis and probably many others they would say it's not
02:24:32.980
permissible it's a witchcraft say oh it's it's uh not witchcraft but they call it like um like uh
02:24:38.260
bidda like you know something that's a new innovation okay uh and like you know maybe even
02:24:44.900
they say it's disbelief okay um whereas sufis would say now there is like these kind of things
02:24:50.980
that you could do from a spiritual nature that may have certain benefits gotcha so it could go either
02:24:57.140
way yeah not something like that but i like more in this like spiritual aspects of it interesting
02:25:02.740
first in the chat what is this considered is this considered uh oh yeah some neighbors say yeah
02:25:08.500
for christianity guys my christian guys would would this be considered witchcraft
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christianity um christians don't have kind of like a similar thing in in terms of like that kind
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of spiritual aspect they don't have it no yeah so they would probably consider this witchcraft yeah
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right uh oh some of these some of the muslims in here are saying no it's witchcraft yeah yeah they
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will a lot of them witchcraft yes satanic new testament witchcraft heresy yeah i'm just looking at all the
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different things here all right lots of different opinions but i'm right about sufism right you
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guys agree like within sufi tradition they have this concept like for example you know in um so for
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example oh actually all muslims believe this right you know when a when a child is born you sacrifice an
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animal and then you give that animal to people as as like um as um as like a you know as as a way of blessings
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so muslims believe in blessings right yeah they believe in good reward and they believe the blessings
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will come but then the difference is that like sufis may believe that like let's say things are going
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wrong for you if you were to sacrifice an animal maybe it may bring things that are better for you because
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maybe that evil eye that you've got will be taken away by sacrificing the animal damn okay
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power about 10 000 doses bro has a cow bag of cocaine power about it said that that makes
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it sound like a really potent cocaine this is the this is the stuff right here this is the
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but uh we could we could go smoke this after the show but no i'm just kidding come back from the dead
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after you do something like that but i have a video from the ritual and if you want to play it
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i don't know if you it has copyrighted music can you slide it so people could see this so these are
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the slides of the actual of the actual um ceremony being taken place and that's yeah they kill the
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cow then they burn it right and uh everything was done specifically according to halacha which is
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jewish law uh it was a perfect cow and uh meaning that it doesn't have a single
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okay uh uh kalaka law is there sharia law yeah okay well hair that is not and it's stricter that
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isn't it stricter than um yeah much stricter and also it could never have been burdened with work
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so you can't you can't even lean a shovel up against the cow they have to be treated in a very
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specific way for their whole life and then the person who does the ritual can never have been in
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contact with death so the so basically they're not allowed to go to they have to be of a specific
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bloodline and what they do was they raise these children in like these elevated homes above the
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ground and they never leave the home until they're ready to do the rituals and that's uh like how they
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never come into contact with death so the priest who did this literally lived in his home for over 20
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years before he never left nope because he was born to do this ritual wow and uh now that it's been
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done uh the messiah can come okay so this is you're talking about the return of the return of the
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mac here we go so so this is this is like the the jewish messiah is going to come back would that be
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similar would that be like the return of christ or it would it would it be a different here's the
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thing i think the most fundamental difference between judaism and christianity yeah yeah return
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yeah return of antichrist reincarnation you notice when whenever um like jews like him or ben
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shapiro are asked about jesus like they dance around it yeah like they're like
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go to church like uh you know like they they you know they don't want to say that they reject him
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right like i've noticed that when they do these interviews they really dance around this hard
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yeah which is always funny i remember uh when shapiro was asked by joe rogue and he said oh jesus is a
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rebel and then he got he got he got what he deserved he got what he deserved right yeah but this was a
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long this is like years ago right this is when his fan boys would just not even pick up like 2016 2017
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yeah so now they're way more cautious when they do these interviews but the reality is like they
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look at him as a sorcerer right like they look at him like he's completely rejected yeah he's degenerate
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a rebel he's somebody who basically he's basically someone who can't be accepted like he did something
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that was harm harmful to society and he had to be taken out okay and so the messiah is here in every
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generation and there's a process by which we are awakened enough to accept the messiah so if the messiah
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doesn't come he dies he's reconstituted born into the matrix again and has to find his way back to
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another thing we can't build the temple until this happened and now that this happened the messiah can
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come build the third temple in jerusalem so um hit us with uh what are your thoughts on and if you want
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me to show you a video by the pull up a video or anything like that let me know what are your thoughts
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on uh charlie kirk so you have your theory here with with israel you want to take us through it
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real quick yeah yeah take your time so i think what it is is there's um the reasoning i thought the
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strongest and reasoning go up until candace only released the latest text which kind of showed that
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first of all it confirmed and proved that there was the jewish donor who did pull out
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and uh also the fact that in a group chat charlie kirk literally said like i'm not gonna like i'm
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gonna turn on israel i'm not gonna be supporting israel anymore now many people would argue that
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wait a sec wow you know how would they be able to plan the death within 48 hours you know the
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assassination but if you think about it logically and they had that thing booked for a while
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the the the arena the event where they did it yeah um which they can do because the the arena being
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booked doesn't mean you can get like you don't you know how long does it take to get a shooter out
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there now you could do it in two days but what's more likely is that this wouldn't have been the
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first person or the first person he told he could have said this to many other people in terms of
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robert shillman pulling out and the fact that he wants to turn on israel so i don't think this was the
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first incident furthermore i think that the the biggest motive for why he he was going to turn on
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iran is uh sorry turn on israel is because of the war on iran so one of my sources who is uh close
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friends with um charlie kirk said that during the first war with iran charlie kirk was the only
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person who was against american war with iran yeah and didn't he go to the white house about this yeah
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he did so that's that's that's confirmed true he went there and trump told him no we're not talking
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about this right well that bit my source didn't say that bit was from max blumenthal the fact that
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trump got angry with him and threw him out already okay and there were witnesses there sorry then
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there were witnesses there right was this like at the oval office or some other yeah yeah it was
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oh he went to the oval office yeah yeah okay but directly to trump yeah uh so my one is he said
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it to trump max blumenthal says he said it trump and trump got angry but the point is both of us
02:31:56.420
both of our sources say that um charlie kirk was the only person against the war with iran
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okay he headseth um what's his name again uh rubio vance all of us supporting the war with iran
02:32:11.780
really yeah i i heard it was mike waltz that was for it rubio surprisingly said no he wasn't for it
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yeah at least that's what i heard yeah that's publicly that's fake like everything they bring
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out in the public is like never true okay so you remember they made it look like so the whole
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cabinet was saying war yeah and only charlie kirk was the one against it and obviously as being you know
02:32:32.900
like iran really did smash israel up quite a bit and so america decided not get involved and that's
02:32:40.500
a problem now they're planning to go to war with iran again as we know and it's going to happen we
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believe in the next couple of months but whenever it happens it's quite clearly being demonstrated
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israel cannot defeat iran and without american support they need america to be involved if america's not
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involved israel will lose the war and they will cease to exist and so you've got your existence
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on the line how long do you think they would last i give it a week how long do you think they'd last
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if they didn't have us support yeah less than a week because even these 12 days they were struggling
02:33:15.460
a few more days or like at least another week do you think jordan and egypt would uh crush their
02:33:19.620
fucking um uh camp david accords and just like go in and support the uh other arabs well you don't
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even need that though that's what's the interesting thing like as long as those countries weren't helping
02:33:31.460
israel iran would just destroy them so if no one supported israel they'd be gone within days um
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so and when you look at the iran situation you look at the fact that he was turning on israel
02:33:45.460
and based on these leaks it's a lot more significant than i thought there is extreme
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motive and they have the best motive to take is to get israel now in terms of sorry in terms of
02:33:54.420
killing kirk now in terms of killing kirk there's two possibilities that and the problem that you've
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got is that there's so many kooky people telling fake stories that you don't what happens is they
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do this on purpose as part of an intelligence operation you know like how in 9 11 you had the
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real question marks about what happened you had the official narrative then you had the real question
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marks and then they'd come up with kooky stories like there was no planes it was remote control and all
02:34:18.580
these kind of things speaking of which um ryan dawson um released the re-release of the
02:34:24.260
9 11 thing what i'm thinking is i don't know how long you you uh because i know you've had a long
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day today you've been doing you how many interviews you did today like four i've done quite a few yeah
02:34:32.420
i'm like yeah you go going hard in the paint um what i was thinking guys is we'll do our discussion
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here and then we're going to cut to oss and then react to that documentary and we'll watch like an
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hour of it together um oss only of course uh my community but yeah uh did you watch it already or no
02:34:47.940
yeah i watched it yeah yeah he re-released it guys he really released the empire on mass so we're
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going to watch it uh better quality uh so it's going to be lit it's uh we'll watch it together
02:34:57.780
here watch about an hour or whatever so i don't hold them on here forever like i went to south korea
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and i watched it with dawson before it got released and then there was like it wasn't the final version
02:35:06.500
it was like very close to the final version but it was so good so um oh shit we got bills okay guys
02:35:12.420
i'm trying to do like some texture here on the side so slowly thank you so much for helping me out
02:35:15.300
with with uh you know keeping them entertained while i do this texture um but um well bills is here
02:35:20.820
right now so i think i should be okay okay so take us through take us through the the trolley
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so then so then give us your theory why do you think why do you think he was involved why do you
02:35:28.900
think israel was involved um what's your evidence for it um you know where do you stand as of today
02:35:34.260
because i know people change their views every single day uh obviously canada someone's blew the
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lid open yesterday released a bunch of text messages from a group chat so go ahead and take us
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yeah so i've explained the motive and in terms of um how it was done so like i said sorry with
02:35:50.820
september the 11th they create extravagant theory so you don't question the real narrative because
02:35:54.980
people are like whoa these are kooky so some of like the kooky theories are like oh it was the pager
02:35:59.140
attack they were drone attacks if there was like 10 shooters you know there was movement like his his
02:36:05.140
security detail were helping out like i think all these things are crazy and wacky but this is part of
02:36:09.780
an intelligence operation like when i mentioned about september the 11th they did that on purpose
02:36:13.540
because the hijackers were linked to mossad right and mossad how are handling them yes one of the guys
02:36:19.540
the lebanese guy for those of you the guys that are wondering for for 9-11 um fuck those lebanese guy
02:36:26.420
his cousin first cousin was a uh spy for musad against hezbollah that's right yeah yes but in addition to
02:36:33.780
zia jarrah yeah and and and this time ryan dawson showed a number of the other hijackers connected to
02:36:39.140
mossad oh so there's not just one anymore yeah yeah yeah and so what that demonstrates is when
02:36:44.580
they do these theories it takes they actually sometimes hides israeli involvement yeah because
02:36:48.580
if there's no hijackers there's no israeli involvement except for the dancing israelis
02:36:52.740
and the people in jeremy i see what you're saying our students i see what you're saying so i do i'm
02:36:57.220
against those people who are doing these kind of extravagant stories like ryan matter but generally
02:37:00.980
speaking i do think that there was israeli involvement because so there's two theories that i think are
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credible one is it was tyler robinson okay all right so you do you do believe that tyler robinson
02:37:12.500
had a play in this and that it was a shooter yeah okay that that's what i'm 50 50 on it okay and the
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reason is this because tyler robinson was part of transtifa which is the trans antifa which is a left-wing