Ian Carroll Interview, Feds Arrest Judges, USC Student MELTS DOWN!
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4 hours and 17 minutes
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200.99965
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Summary
On this episode of the podcast, we have our first guest on the show, and it's a very special guest! We had the chance to catch up with him after his recent tour, and we talk about how he got his start on TikTok and how he went from there to becoming a full-time content creator.
Transcript
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Chat, give me ones if you guys got us and we are good.
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Give me ones if you guys got us and we are good.
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When I'm listening to the stream, I'm not hearing an echo.
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Because I could hear myself in the background a little.
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Bro, mods, ban these fucking idiots that say dumb shit like that, bro.
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If anyone says that there's echo and hurts the quality of the show, man, that's annoying.
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You guys can say whatever you guys want, but just do not troll the quality of the show so
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that we're, like, wasting time, you know, trying to fix that stuff.
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It was sick to see your recent tour and all the stuff you were doing on stage at this event
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But no, dude, I wanted to talk more about you, man.
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I mean, like, dude, I am so, and I haven't been able to tell you.
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I mean, I've been, me and you've been texting and stuff like that, but I've been so happy
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I've seen a lot of haters, a lot of jealous people saying, oh, who is this guy?
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And it's just incredible to me how people, like, forget that, like, you've been on TikTok
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And then, you know, you moved on over to, you know, doing more long-form content on YouTube
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And that's what happens when you make good stuff, man.
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People discover you, and then they want to work with you and bring you on, man.
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So, I think getting over on Rogan, the number one podcast in the world, or at least the United
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I mean, I noticed when he started following me, I think my friends might have, like, messaged
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Um, and I think it's how he probably gets in touch with most people.
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He just kind of starts following you and watching your stuff.
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And then at a certain point, he just messaged me and was like, yo, we should probably start.
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We had to push the date a little bit because he had a scheduling conflict.
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But I was already planning to move to Austin at the time.
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So, it wasn't even like, I didn't even have to fly or anything.
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It was kind of like, it was all made to be that way.
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You know, because I had reacted to it and I was hype.
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Because the first, a significant amount of the interview, you guys just talked different theories,
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You guys didn't really talk about Israel or any of that other stuff until like the last 20.
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I mean, a few times, kind of like glance through and back out and glance through and back out.
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And I think we were kind of just establishing a baseline a little bit, but also just kind of
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It's not like we didn't have any discussion beforehand what we were and weren't going to
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I think people have all these conspiracy theories that like podcasts are scripted and podcasts
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are like, and you know that it's like, that's not how it is at all.
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You literally just show up, sit down, crack a beer and like, or, you know, sparkling and
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Um, and so it was like all of my content at the time was about Epstein.
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And so it was kind of obvious that we were going to talk about Epstein at least a little
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Um, and you know, we, we kind of held off on talking about Israel until much later, but
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there's like a certain point like near the end where he just kind of like left an open
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And I wasn't going to not talk about Israel with the opportunity there.
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Um, and I intentionally tried to do it in a very like moderate and normie and kind of
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like balanced way that wasn't super hard in because that's the audience.
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And that's like the right way to do it in that setting.
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Um, when you're talking to people that might have no context or very little context or very
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mainstream context, you want to just kind of give them a very balanced, uh, starter pack
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Things that they can look up for themselves, things that they can corroborate and kind of
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So I was super proud of how it came out and it was wild how many like conspiracy theories
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and opinions and haters came out of the woodwork because of it.
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Um, it was a good time, but it definitely was, it was a bit of a madhouse for like a month
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Um, and, and I got into a couple of really, um, heated discussions with people, um, about
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that interview and people were saying, Oh, he didn't go hard enough.
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I said, then that, I literally told him, shut the fuck up, dude.
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You can't go on there talking about the fucking Talmud, bro.
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Like you got to kind of slowly build your way up.
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And, and people don't, you know, I look at Joe Rogan as like, he is what I call like
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the, the, the, the first step towards alternative narratives.
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He's like what, um, normies that don't trust the government will watch.
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So you can't go on there and be full retard and talk about this topic and then just like
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make yourself look crazy, make him look, make him uncomfortable and just go wild.
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Like, so I think like, you know, like, because I remember you vividly, you talked to, you
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The fact that you even mentioned it on a platform that big guaranteed at least 50 to
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a hundred thousand people are going to Google that now.
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And then just like you said, cause I literally said that when I was talking about this, um,
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it's, it's better to say something and let the people Google and come to their own conclusion
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versus you try to like go wild and, you know, go into super deep detail.
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Especially to say things that are the easily like findable resources.
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Like you can find those FBI files and they are official FBI files.
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So they're a very high integrity, high integrity source that you can send people to, whereas
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like trying to send people to the Talmud is like, Hey, it's hard to interpret.
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Like if you talk about something like the Talmud on Joe Rogan, you actually alienate the
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huge amount of the audience that could have started asking questions.
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And also like, I don't want to break Joe's trust.
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Cause Joe's not trying to have me on to talk about the Talmud.
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And I, I imagine that I'll probably talk to him again in the future and we'll probably
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progress the discussion and the conversation more.
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Um, and so I intentionally, you might've noticed, I think that you actually pointed out when you
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did your reaction that I intentionally said to the camera on it too, like Joe doesn't necessarily
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Like just mainstream media, just so you know, like I'm saying this as my opinion, not necessarily
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And because it's not just that you're talking to normies on Joe Rogan's podcast, you're
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talking to everyone, but the big one that you're talking to is the hit piece smear campaign
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And so you have to be really aware that everything you're saying can be taken out of context
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and, and turned into smear campaigns really easily, both against yourself and against your
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And so you have to be really thoughtful that what the way you're saying things is so clear
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that when any, even if they try to take it out of context, anyone that goes and watches
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the actual show will realize that it was taken out of context and realize that I was presenting
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a very balanced narrative and a very thoughtful approach.
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And they won't like it kind of, you have to play defense and offense at the same time.
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Especially when you're on a platform that big, like, uh, you know, saying, um, just saying
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something like, just like dancing as rails is like a huge accomplishment because that's
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going to, you know, get people to start looking it up and, you know, and I think people need
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As someone that like talked about this before October 7th, if you talked about this stuff
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before, man, like it was an instant band hammer.
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So, you know, you being able to bring up these ideas on the biggest platform in the United
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And then the crazy thing is, so you're on JRE, uh, Candace is on Theo Vaughn and Andrew
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Uh, so, uh, you on Rogan, uh, Candace on Theo Vaughn and then, um, Andrew Tate on, um,
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Dude, I was, it was crazy because, um, like, uh, he, he, all you guys like mentioned, right?
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Like Andrew said, Hey, who can you not criticize the United States?
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Uh, the Dems, the Dems, the Democrats, he's like, uh, no, the Jews.
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And then there's like three different flavors of J Pilling on the internet, like millions
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and millions of views all in one day, all on the same question.
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Jeremy Boring wrote this, like, uh, fucking tweet saying how sad he was.
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So obviously, you know, um, and I remember all the lore first, Elon Musk asked this question
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about why does it be, why do people not like Israel?
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And you write this, uh, this, this, you know, very well thought out, uh, like basis damn
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And it's like a, like a million likes or whatever, crazy ratio.
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That was, I mean, like I had grown, my, my platform was big at that point and Elon had
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started following me like a month or two before, probably off of some totally unrelated video.
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Um, and then he posted some bullshit, like Israeli propaganda video that was clearly like,
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And it's just like this bullshit, really well, like edited, high quality video.
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That's clearly from Israeli propaganda machine.
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And he posted it and I was, and, and I think that I responded like, you know, Elon for being
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so smart, you are surprisingly bad at understanding this one issue.
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And he's for some fucking reason responded saying, what am I missing?
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And so I, uh, I didn't actually notice at first.
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I got like three different text messages from friends all at once.
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And that was, I was like out doing something at the time when I got, I don't remember what
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I was doing, but I like read the, read the text, the tweet and immediately stopped what
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I was doing and like parked my car and just started like typing it out.
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Um, because I think it had already been like an hour or two since he had responded.
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And I had no concept that this was about to blow up.
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It was just like, Elon reply, like, just like give him, you know, the sauce.
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And immediately my thought is like in those big platform moments, you have to come correct
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with sources, with the highest quality evidence.
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And we all have our different opinions about which are the highest quality pieces of evidence,
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But I just kind of went with like the top 10 of what do I think are the number, like the
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highest, uh, integrity arguments that I know I have sources for that I can quickly grab.
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So I first made this long list of like explaining everything in as good a language as I could.
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And then I made a reply, I retweeted it and I put in a thread of all my sources for each
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And then I made a video running through it in my like kind of traditional format to just
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like hit it on all three to show that this is what I think, but this is why I think it.
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And you can, cause it's so important, even if you know, you're right, when you're trying
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to communicate with other people that think you're wrong or that just don't know anything
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about it, it's so important that you show sources, not necessarily to prove that you're
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right, but to show them that you're a serious, thoughtful person that is like able to be
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And you're not just like a crazy person, because if you don't know anything about Israel or
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you're propagandized about Israel and you see someone just going so hard on them, it's
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easy to think because you've been taught to think this, oh, that's just like some crazy
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And so bringing sources, even if you know you're right and whatever, the point is to show
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that, no, this is like a thoughtful argument that you should take seriously.
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And for one reason or another, it just like blew up.
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And I think a lot of that is people like you, like people like Nick, people like Sam, like
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just everyone just started like looking at it, reposting it and talking about it.
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And then it came some fucking hilarious memes came out of that one.
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Like there's this one meme where they took Freddie Mercury doing a Queen concert and they
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It's like one of my all time favorite, like hype memes someone's ever made for me.
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Did you, uh, so when you, um, what were the top three that used, do you remember?
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I know it was a couple of months back, but you remember the top three, remember what
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the top three were, but I'm sure that one of the top three was probably just the number
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of kids and women that have been bombed and killed.
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I'm sure that Jeffrey Epstein and all the evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was associated
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And I bet that AIPAC and how 93 out of 100 of our senators in 2023 were paid by AIPAC.
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I would imagine that those three were probably pretty near to the top, but you know, the
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Um, you know, the terrorists that founded Israel was probably up there.
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Uh, I mean, the list is long, so, um, you know, you take your pick, right?
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And I do tend to come back to certain ones more than others.
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And, um, and it's really crazy because, you know, as much as, you know, guys like me or
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you or other people might say, oh yeah, like this is all basic stuff or whatever, you know,
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you still got to remember that like, like the average American is completely unaware of
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And I think, um, and I think that's why it was so powerful when you had that appearance
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on, on JRE to present it in a, in a very palatable, um, fashion where even someone who,
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uh, has no idea or is even critical of you, maybe they'd still be able to be like, you
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Yeah, this guy is actually right about this stuff.
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I might not like this guy, but he's correct about this because what I've noticed, man,
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when it comes to this topic and I want to get your take on this, I've seen a lot of people
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try to sit there and fact check you or they're pissed off that you had a discussion, which
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I want to talk about the Doug Murray thing here in a second.
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Um, when you talk about this subject, um, what I've realized is if you don't come correct,
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they're going to, they're literally going to come after you hardcore and say it's misinformation.
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Uh, you got to definitely be able to crush your T's and die to your eyes.
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As far as like people like Doug Murray going on Rogan and doing this damage control, even
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The Jordan one was, I think Jordan was far more tactful, even though it was also a little
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transparent, but, um, before Douglas Murray came out and did his kind of like attack tour,
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A lot of Israel shows, a lot of people with Israeli flags in their bio trying to, I mean, a lot
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of them are retarded and are trying to like say that I'm sponsored by Qatar, completely unable to
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So the best that some of them came up with was like Whitney Webb's book was published by a
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No shit retard, because if it was published by a Zionist or anyone with a mainstream publishing
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deal that was, you know, Zionists have their fingers in all those mainstream publishers.
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So the book wouldn't be fucking for sale if it was published by a Zionist.
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Um, so they had a lot of hollow arguments like that, that were hilarious and a ton of
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Um, a lot of people just went straight to attacks on my character.
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Um, but never, you know, they never actually call you a liar and they never actually refute
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their parents say again, I said that these fucking POS is they doxed your parents.
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They fucked up like, uh, dates of birth and who was born with, they fucked all kinds of
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They started coming after the families of the event, like the venue where I was going to
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They started trying to dox the families of that venue and threatening the venue and the
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And it's understandable because Boston is a very, like the money systems in Boston.
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Boston is like an old money town with a lot of Jewish money.
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And so there's a lot of like political threats that were able to be made of like, we're going
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to call you Jew haters and get you blacklisted from the whole Boston business community.
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And so it was understandable that the families got really worried and wanted to back out.
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And I did not, I don't hold it against them at all.
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Um, it's just like after your broken appearance, right?
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That's when they, it was directly after it was direct retaliation.
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Um, and it's silly because it's like, I'm going to have, like, I was going to invite
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Like I'm going to have like Jewish people there.
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Um, and so we're going to move it to Austin and you know, now they've made that a part of
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They keep on giving like us more examples of why this is a problem.
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Um, it's like totally the Zionists and like these like Jewish factions aligned with Israel.
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They totally don't like have greater allegiance to Israel unless you say something bad about
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But then, you know, some of the material, some of the better arguments that materialized
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were trying to like, it was mostly casting doubt on Epstein and on Epstein's association
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And I was so down with Whitney Webb's book, um, shout out to Whitney Webb, one nation under
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Um, and those were mostly trying to either deflect that maybe he was actually CIA and that the
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CIA is using Israel as cover, which is like, all right, bro, like whatever you say.
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Um, and some people were trying to claim that maybe he's Saudi Arabian or maybe it's like,
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Um, and like, it's a pretty hollow argument and, and it was weird actually, like Whitney
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kind of like came out and criticized my argument and she gave, she made good points, but it's
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like, I can't help but wonder how many books I helped her sell.
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Cause the thing with her, dude, I don't know what, I don't know if, I don't know what it
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is, um, why she doesn't do interviews or whatever, because hell I've reached out to
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I was going to have her on with, with Dostick and have a sit down.
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And I was like, willing to have her maybe one-on-one with us, whatever, like people
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I think someone told me that she has a, um, a special needs child.
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She has a lot of family stuff and she lives out of the country.
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And I, I assume that she probably went through a lot of shit when she was writing that book.
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I assume that she lives in Chile for a reason, um, like a safety reason.
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I think that she's very careful of like the Jew hating, um, for good reason.
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Like she should not tarnish the reputation of that book.
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Like I'm more open to talking to everyone because I, I fucking hate censorship.
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But like, I also am very careful about how I talk about it because I don't want to be
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And I'm like, I love people that are say whatever they want to say on every angle.
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Um, but like, I understand why Whitney is super careful about who she talks to and why
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she like, wouldn't talk to Myron or wouldn't talk to Stu or wouldn't talk to Nick.
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Um, but why she wouldn't talk to Ryan is an interesting one.
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And I don't really know the drama between Ryan and her, but there's a lot of drama.
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Um, and I just try to stay out of it and admire both of their work and be thankful for both
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Cause I'm really just, well, I wanted to either set up a debate or just kind of like end the,
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So, um, but yeah, no, I, I think with her, um, cause I've heard like big outlets even
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reach out to her too, but she just doesn't like to do interviews like that because of
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Um, but yeah, it's, it's a very, you know, cause you got different people, right?
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Some people are, are more refined and, and, you know, but I do think that everyone has,
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um, a position when it comes to getting the truth out there and they have their own style.
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Um, but I definitely do think when you go on certain platforms of certain sizes, you absolutely
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When him and Dave Smith are in there complaining about you and not Dave Smith, but Dave Smith
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is defending you, but like Doug Murray complaining about you and Daryl Cooper and shit like that.
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And the memes that came out of Douglas Murray talking about being there were so good.
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And when you actually look into like, have you ever been there?
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Like what Doug Murray's been there is, is like, okay, bro, you went on a propaganda tour
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That would be like getting a tour of the Americas with Christopher Columbus and claiming to understand
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And he like, and when you actually dig into his act, like his credentials, his college degree,
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When you dig into his whole career of work, it's like, clearly we can tell who he works for.
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And so then when he comes and like, when you look at his husband and his, uh, you know,
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his proclivities, it's like, yeah, like we kind of see what's going on here, bro.
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Um, and then when he actually like wrote an op-ed that was written and in it, he clearly
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Like he used my name in the paragraph about me, but then said that I was doing things around
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world war two, that was clearly his thoughts about what Daryl Cooper was doing.
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Cause he didn't really have his thoughts straight.
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Um, and, and so it was just like, so, uh, half baked and under thought because if he's a
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professional journalist, journalism is about communicating and like telling people what,
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you know, and so he should be a professional at understanding that that is not how you
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You don't approach Joe Rogan's audience with condescension and like authoritarian, like, uh,
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And so he really just made our point for us and kind of the only people that came out
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in support of him were the Israel shills, which just helped us all see who the Israel
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I thought Jordan Peterson was much more effective, um, and sinister in what he tried to do.
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But fortunately Jordan has undermined himself and Jordan's reputation is already in the tanks
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And a lot of people on X have been doing a really good job of calling out Jordan's sort
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of pathologizing of people as a very Soviet tactic and a very dark and fucked up, uh,
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And it's, it's like really ironic that he was pretty clearly talking about Candace when
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And even if he didn't mean to, you, you'd have to be an idiot, a poor communicator to not
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realize that his words were going to be heard as he's talking about Candace.
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Cause he's clearly saying Christ, the people saying Christ is King are psychopathic where
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Candace is like a healthy unmedicated mother of soon to be, I think four or five that is
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And Jordan is like an ex drug addict, like with marital problems and all these problems
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and like, and it's like in his career, we've all watched him rise to these great heights
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and then fall in this tragic way where he was so like red pilling for so long.
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And now he's just like this sniveling, like whiny shill for Israel and the daily wire.
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Um, so it's like so silly that he would come out and try to pathologize people and be a
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representative of Christianity, which he's not even a Christian.
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Like just Jordan, I talked about this, um, yesterday, man, like 2015, 2016, like 2016,
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2017 is like Jordan Peterson was unstoppable, man.
00:25:17.540
Like every young guy looked up to him, like, holy shit, we finally have a voice in, you
00:25:22.760
know, this, uh, you know, liberal dominated media, um, fighting back against this stuff.
00:25:27.780
And so many guys were able to like, you know, kind of latch on and get, you know, you wanted
00:25:34.020
And, um, you know, I think what I, I think three things hurt his credibility, his daughter
00:25:43.080
Like doing dumb shit behind the scenes that he has to defend, um, because the problem
00:25:46.900
with his daughter is that she's kind of a fake trad con and she's not intelligent.
00:25:50.180
So she'll go there and she'll debate on behalf of her dad or she'll like, and it's good intentions,
00:25:55.580
but the problem is that she doesn't have, yeah, she doesn't have the skillset or the prerequisite
00:26:01.100
Like Candace Owens made her look terrible on Pierce Morgan.
00:26:04.240
So I mean, like, how is Jordan going to criticize his own daughter in public on the internet?
00:26:11.340
So like she does like, she does like everything and that's where she, she should have kept
00:26:16.340
Stay mind the scenes as being off the fucking camera.
00:26:21.020
Uh, behind the scenes, dressing like a whore, like divorcing her husband, um, you know, making
00:26:30.360
The drug use and then going disappearing for like a year or two, um, as being like a masculine
00:26:35.940
Then crying right randomly on, on, on different podcasts.
00:26:40.900
And then also some people might disagree with me on this.
00:26:43.160
It was a bad idea for him to go after Andrew Tate.
00:26:47.000
So when he was using drugs and he was kind of on this low, Andrew had this meteoric rise
00:26:53.500
What Jordan should have done was brought Andrew Tate on, had a discussion and kind of bring
00:27:00.780
And that would have been a lot better because he wouldn't have been able to get the ear
00:27:03.680
of the young people that he had just lost from these scandals.
00:27:06.260
But instead he went on a tirade attacking Andrew and made it, uh, made it basically us
00:27:12.380
And then bam, a bunch of his audience is going to leave there because no one that's under,
00:27:15.960
uh, 30 years old or under, under 25 years old is listening to Jordan Peterson.
00:27:24.400
And we, you know, supported him before because, um, when we were younger, that was his come
00:27:28.800
up, but now he's not, these young guys are not looking at him.
00:27:32.840
They're, they're looking at guys like Andrew Tate and Sneeko and Nick and shit like that.
00:27:35.720
So for him to insult Andrew was actually really bad.
00:27:39.140
And then like, sit down with like destiny, like bro, destiny, you guys disagree on everything.
00:27:44.100
And I like destiny, by the way, I'm not going to be one of these guys that's going to bash
00:27:48.700
What I'm saying is that for him to, you know, I'm better than me though.
00:27:53.040
I don't know him at all for, for him to attack Andrew who actually has far more things
00:27:57.600
he agrees with, but then go ahead and sit down with destiny.
00:28:01.700
Cause they, they both agree on the protection of Israel.
00:28:05.320
So it's like these different, um, you know, he, he should have at least sat down with these
00:28:10.240
people that he's critical of and then him constantly attacking Nick.
00:28:12.780
I think that's also hurt him too, because what I've realized is anyone that swings right
00:28:17.200
wing, that is, um, especially if they're a white male under 30 years old, they're going
00:28:22.920
So these guys grossly underestimate his, his influence with, with the young guys and the
00:28:29.060
Like they're not going to be relevant in 10 or 20 years.
00:28:32.060
And I think Jordan doesn't entirely realize that.
00:28:34.540
Um, and, and I think you're right that he made some critical errors and it's just like
00:28:37.920
strategy of how he played his image and how he played.
00:28:40.100
Like you don't attack Andrew Tate from the low ground when you're coming off of like career
00:28:45.300
In ways that are not even like, not even like a, you can't go like you, you really have
00:28:53.020
to have some sort of jujitsu skills to even get Andrew to engage with you on a like rational
00:28:57.860
level instead of on a like, fuck you bitch level.
00:29:00.640
And you're going to lose the fuck you bitch war with Andrew Tate every single time.
00:29:04.080
So it's like, why even like, why would Jordan even try that fight, let alone from his own
00:29:09.960
And then the, when they, when he and Michaela started this big online fight with Nick Fuentes
00:29:13.980
was like so silly and unintelligent because it's not just that Nick has so much support
00:29:20.300
from young people and especially like white and Republican people.
00:29:23.180
But it's like, if you try to attack Nick Fuentes, but you don't actually engage with his
00:29:29.760
arguments and his logic and his like facts, then you will assure you'll win the hearts
00:29:35.800
of the people that already hated Nick because of his personality.
00:29:38.580
But everyone that is like at all like sympathetic to Nick, they're just going to notice that
00:29:45.600
They're just going to notice that you're not actually having an argument.
00:29:49.060
And it's like, yeah, Nick has lots of character traits that you can try to attack and that's
00:29:52.680
fine, but you're not going to win the fucking argument that way.
00:29:54.940
And Nick's still being out here, still challenging everyone to a debate and everyone being
00:29:59.500
scared to debate him is like this glaring, obvious, like black hole at the center of
00:30:05.360
the internet right now that just gets bigger and bigger and bigger every day because everyone's
00:30:09.960
Like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, why don't you debate Nick Fuentes if he's so evil and wrong?
00:30:14.000
Like, yeah, I heard that Charlie, why don't you do it?
00:30:16.100
He might sit down with bitch ass Dean Withers, right?
00:30:21.520
And, you know, the thing also, you know, and he made a good point about this, right?
00:30:30.940
That, you know, you got your conventional normie right wingers like Ben Shapiro, Jordan
00:30:34.980
Oh, another thing I think that Jordan Peterson fucked him up was a lot getting on Daily Wire
00:30:41.160
Like big time shaking Netanyahu's hand in that photograph.
00:30:48.600
His daughter, the drug use, attacking Andrew Tate, attacking Nick Fuentes, like guys that
00:30:54.420
have the youth that he had just lost, you know, aligning with Daily Wire.
00:31:03.340
Like, Candice has taken down literally like presidents of country.
00:31:10.800
It's just like, and then on top of that, like, just with like hold how the Daily Wire's
00:31:15.040
like had this fall, it's just like been a big L and I think the big thing, the issue
00:31:18.540
is he made so much money, right, from doing these tours and the book sales and everything
00:31:22.940
He got, he lost that, that, um, he became more pompous.
00:31:28.940
Like he wouldn't sit down and have a discussion with, um, up and coming contemporary entertainers
00:31:41.380
And what he doesn't get is bro, just like you said, you're coming from the low ground.
00:31:46.860
You need to go ahead and collaborate with people that have some type of semblance with
00:31:54.100
So, um, especially cause all you guys have such loyal, like core audiences.
00:31:59.400
It's like whether like a lot of you just named a lot of you guys that have these like bigger
00:32:02.980
kind of like loyal audiences, but even the smaller guys that just have those like core loyal
00:32:07.600
Cause you just like, like it's this group of people that just say the fucking truth.
00:32:11.540
And even if you don't think it's the truth, it's their truth.
00:32:21.400
It's like, you don't give a fuck and you don't care if you get canceled.
00:32:24.060
You don't care if you get attacked and smeared.
00:32:25.800
You're just like, dude, I'm just going to say it.
00:32:28.720
Um, and that is so like what the youth are looking for today that if Jordan had chosen
00:32:36.040
to interface with that, like in a real way, in a genuine way, dude, he could have like
00:32:40.760
actually tapped into the youth and actually talked to them.
00:32:43.140
But when you try to come at young people as though you're like some fucking God and like
00:32:46.980
know everything, they're just like, okay, dad, go away.
00:32:50.700
And I'll say this too, cause me and you are fairly close in age.
00:32:53.620
Like our generation, you know, we were stupid liberals, right?
00:32:56.600
Like, uh, you know, support Obama, shit like that.
00:33:01.920
Um, you know, you're progressive for quite a bit of your adult life and then you kind
00:33:05.760
of saw the light and switched on over and same with me.
00:33:08.220
Like I, you know, once I got a job and started getting in the real world, I was like, holy
00:33:12.060
But what I will say about Gen Zers is a lot of them are conservative off rip.
00:33:16.840
So yeah, a lot of them are based right from the start.
00:33:19.540
So it's like for Peterson to kind of not see that and not understand that a big part
00:33:24.060
of his fan base now are guys like us and we've grown up and we see what he's doing.
00:33:30.300
And it bothers me so much because this is a guy that literally 10 years ago was un-fucking
00:33:38.220
Everyone loved him cause he was able to use the academic terminology and go to battle these
00:33:42.760
fucking feminists on our behalf and speak their language, but obliterate them.
00:33:46.480
But now it's like, he's a, it's a shell of himself.
00:33:48.820
And then like, it's almost like the nail in the coffin was him going on JRE.
00:33:53.080
And basically what he did was he was calling for censorship.
00:33:55.280
That's what he was doing as a guy that endured that they took his, they tried to take his
00:34:03.740
Like he's dealt with the very censorship that he's advocating with under the premise of,
00:34:08.080
Oh, this anti-Semitism, these psychopaths, these gripers, like they're vindictive or whatever the
00:34:12.900
And I'm like, dude, you're, you're calling for what you literally have been fighting
00:34:17.940
There's no hate speech clause in the first amendment for a fucking reason.
00:34:24.000
So to do it at the same time as the administration and our government is pushing the actual fucking
00:34:32.840
They're even trying to get Jewish speech laws passed in the United States.
00:34:36.860
Like that is such an L of a strategy and it gives so much fire to like now when people
00:34:42.280
ask me like, dude, why are you so fucking obsessed with Israel?
00:34:44.280
Like my first answer is always because, or like, why aren't you worried about the, like
00:34:51.180
It's like, because they're not trying to fucking censor my speech in my country.
00:34:54.600
They're not coming after the first fucking amendment, you dumb ass.
00:34:58.100
And so it's like, like at first, at least it used to be where they could kind of come
00:35:02.700
at you and be like, why are you so obsessed with Israel?
00:35:04.360
And it's like, I'd have to go to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:35:06.180
I'd have to try to like get into the political and media subversion.
00:35:10.400
And if you like, cause if you don't understand that, it's like, yeah, why are you so obsessed?
00:35:14.760
But because their towns are in our fucking country because they depend on us so much, but
00:35:24.740
Because before you kind of had to like slowly, like, well, you know, 9-11, you know, they
00:35:31.960
We're like, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was like collecting information, right?
00:35:35.720
Like, so yeah, you used to have to kind of go about it in that roundabout way.
00:35:39.360
I mean, dude, they, um, I mean, what are your thoughts on like Mahmood Khalil or the girl
00:35:45.980
Um, what are your thoughts on that man grabbing them up for writing fucking op-eds and shit?
00:35:49.380
Dude, it's like, I mean, it's messy because it's all, there's like, you can make these
00:35:55.040
individualized case arguments and you can kind of like, you can subvert the conversation
00:36:00.620
by diverting it to this one that is like a justified like deportation or this one that's
00:36:06.300
And I have kind of intentionally not dug into the very specifics of each one.
00:36:10.220
Um, but in general, it's like, we were promised fucking deportations of like mass amounts
00:36:17.160
of illegal immigrants that were committing crimes in our country, that were crossing our
00:36:20.740
Southern border illegally, that were trafficking children, that were gang members.
00:36:24.520
And like, a, the fucking, we're getting less deportations than during Biden.
00:36:29.180
And B, we weren't looking for fucking deportations of like college kids that are having opinions
00:36:36.800
And like, maybe you want those deportations too, but that's the fucking end of the list.
00:36:41.780
And so I look at it is I don't even get lost in the minutia.
00:36:45.580
It's just like, just the fact that that is the way they're taking the deportation angle
00:36:49.060
is makes it clear what they're really trying to do here.
00:36:51.480
And it makes it clear that like, cause it's a, it's the deportations based on speech and
00:36:58.120
like technicalities and really about opposing Israel.
00:37:01.820
But then it's also pair that with the speech laws, pair that with the like anti boycott,
00:37:06.440
anti-speech laws that are targeting the universities and pair that with the like war with the ran
00:37:11.740
fervor and the like, just, it is very clear that they are trying to just set up this whole
00:37:16.460
thing where they can start labeling Americans terrorists.
00:37:19.040
And that's been sort of like the slow roll goal ever since nine 11.
00:37:23.600
But if they can convince the American public that it's okay to label American citizens, domestic
00:37:30.580
terrorists for their support of a terrorist group, it's fucking game over.
00:37:38.000
Anyone can be tried without a trial, like put away without a trial.
00:37:43.140
And I don't think we're like headed there real quick, but, but it's, it's like, I don't
00:37:47.880
even get lost in the minutia because it's all fucked.
00:37:50.060
It's like, even the ones that you could argue are an okay deportation.
00:37:54.680
Like, why do we still have all these gang members?
00:37:56.720
Why do we still have like all like millions and millions of kid, like people that across the
00:38:01.520
Southern border that are unaccounted for hundreds of thousands of children that are missing
00:38:05.720
that we've not found that are probably some, some of them dead.
00:38:08.540
It's like, that's the kind of shit that matters that I'm not hearing shit about.
00:38:11.820
So I don't give a shit about people on college campuses.
00:38:15.640
And I'll tell you too, bro, like, you know, someone that used to work for ICE, it's, it
00:38:20.080
takes an enormous amount of resources to track these students down, go pick them up and arrest
00:38:24.540
And they only have a finite amount of bed space and ICE officers that actually go and facilitate
00:38:29.520
So, um, you know, to go after students that are here legally because their political views
00:38:35.500
Now, you know, you got, you know, for my political views, I'm very, you know, I think we need
00:38:40.740
I'm very pro immigration enforcement, but to waste those resources knowing, cause I used to come
00:38:45.080
from that world, how many guys we actually have that can actually conduct this properly
00:38:49.040
And the other thing too, um, with the students that they deported, yes, they're liberals,
00:38:53.560
yes, they're progressives, Mahmoud Khalil and this girl that wrote this op-ed, but here's
00:38:58.960
The girl wrote an op-ed and they went and arrested her, writing an article talking about boycotting
00:39:04.600
And then the other guy out of Columbia that got, um, grabbed, he was just a middleman that
00:39:09.060
would talk to the school and then talk to the students.
00:39:10.940
He was basically an intermediary that was trying to facilitate peace.
00:39:13.620
He didn't, he, he didn't necessarily support Hamas either, but what I look at it like is
00:39:18.000
they're trying to kind of create an example and see how far they can go with like going
00:39:22.940
And what you said before, as far as like, this is just the beginning of, you know, mass
00:39:28.360
I've been arguing that for months because like a lot of these right-wingers are like,
00:39:33.860
And I'm like, bro, you guys don't see what's going on here.
00:39:36.040
They're experimenting on the green card holders and the visa holders and see what the public
00:39:41.140
And if they could get away with removing them and or arresting them for this stuff
00:39:44.240
with very little due process, guess who's fucking next idiot.
00:39:51.080
Like they never, it's always, it's always an inch leads to a mile.
00:39:55.680
I mean, like that's all happening while we have very, we have more than enough evidence
00:40:00.160
to go after all kinds of perpetrators of sexual violence against Epstein victims.
00:40:07.960
Like these are American citizens that are living in multimillion dollar homes in America
00:40:11.500
that we have multiple sworn statements in court, tons and tons of evidence, and probably
00:40:16.000
tapes from Epstein's own fucking apartments that show these crimes that we could at least
00:40:21.320
Like, and so it's like, yeah, we're going after fucking college kids that wrote some op-eds
00:40:25.140
when we literally have sexual violence and like terrorism, like that kind of terrorism,
00:40:32.140
So it's like just the clear, um, the priorities are super fucked.
00:40:37.500
So two things, so like, so two things, number one, we were right about JFK.
00:40:43.460
They said that we're anti-isemitic conspiracy theories, but then the documents came out and
00:40:46.780
we saw that they were redacting Israeli intelligence for all these decades.
00:40:51.020
And then Epstein, what are your thoughts on this whole, um, open-ended question, this whole
00:40:58.080
Where Pam Monty's AG, uh, and, uh, um, Paulina, Anna Luna, I think is the person out that's
00:41:06.640
Like, what are your thoughts on these declassified documents?
00:41:12.200
You can go through Epstein, JFK, RFK, however you want to do it.
00:41:15.020
But what are your thoughts on this whole thing?
00:41:16.160
Cause I know you, you're going to be all over it.
00:41:18.220
So, I mean, the first Epstein release was so botched and so embarrassing.
00:41:23.880
And my opinion is that based on having talked to several different people that were there
00:41:29.220
in the room, people that I both respect and people that I do not respect that were there
00:41:34.380
Um, it sounds like, uh, triangulating the information that, that Pam did not intend for
00:41:42.240
It sounds like Pam knew that it wasn't some bombshell and she was trying to communicate
00:41:47.080
It just did not like translate the way she did a terrible job on Fox, the files are on
00:41:55.440
And even if she knew it wasn't a bombshell, the way she portrayed it in the media, the way
00:42:01.320
And so at the very least immature and like naive and at, at worst it was like malicious and
00:42:09.580
Um, and then the JFK documents were like, like they were great.
00:42:16.680
And I think that actually a lot of the stuff that we're going to learn from them just about
00:42:19.760
how intelligence agencies work and how organized crime works and how the last 40, 50, 60 years
00:42:26.080
I think a lot of that is actually still ongoing with like the deep researchers digging through
00:42:30.700
Um, the people that have been like writing books, I think they are still deep in those documents
00:42:34.440
Um, because a lot of the surface stuff was like, yeah, we kind of know.
00:42:37.540
And it's like, there was no super smoking gun about Israel.
00:42:41.600
Um, there was, you know, there's no smoking gun about like, about Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:42:47.200
And I know I'm like, I don't trust those documents.
00:42:51.000
I don't trust that they didn't, that there's not parts that have been destroyed long ago.
00:42:57.060
They were like largely unredacted, but it also like a lot of stuff with like the James
00:43:02.000
Angleton angle of the James Angleton stuff was some of the juiciest.
00:43:05.520
That stuff that it's like, um, it was more circumstantial evidence that like, you know,
00:43:09.840
the researchers that talked about the Israeli angle were basically vindicated.
00:43:12.800
Cause I remember, you know, they were called anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists for talking
00:43:16.440
about Demona, for talking about Numek, for talking about Angleton, helping them with their
00:43:21.780
So you would have to already know the lore to know where to specifically look.
00:43:26.480
Cause like the James Angleton hearings that were classified for literally years, that's
00:43:30.640
kind of a lot of the stuff that like vindicates stuff.
00:43:32.560
But yeah, you have to know already and go looking for it specifically.
00:43:36.180
There was no like obvious bombshells, but it was pretty solid.
00:43:39.680
Um, like that being said, like, I wasn't really that concerned about the JFK files because
00:43:43.900
I feel like the people that know, know, and I wasn't expecting it to be so, so juicy that
00:43:49.520
people that don't think that like, that are skeptical or fucking normies, there wasn't
00:43:54.180
really enough to convince them cause they need like simple fucking bombshells.
00:44:02.180
I said it gave the researchers closure, but to the normies out there, right.
00:44:06.400
Like, uh, you know, like, let's be honest, like probably me and your generation are going
00:44:11.760
Like exactly a lot of these younger guys are not going to care unless they're into politics.
00:44:16.180
So, you know, it basically like closed some loopholes.
00:44:19.280
Um, and then I know what Epstein, cause me, I'm, I'm more interested for nine 11.
00:44:25.920
It's like Epstein is number one, but like nine 11 is like number zero.
00:44:30.220
Nine 11 is so good and juicy and important that it's not even on the list.
00:44:34.340
Um, and, and it's, you know, the silence about like there was one or two mentions of let's
00:44:39.780
get a nine 11 document disclosure and just fucking silence after that, because didn't
00:44:44.120
Paulina say that they were going to do nine 11 tour.
00:44:47.460
Some people said, I don't remember if it was Paulina for sure, but I know that there was
00:44:51.440
some people that said nine 11 documents or at least suggested it.
00:44:59.840
Not a chance because like with, for example, with Epstein, well,
00:45:09.240
Like there's, there's no way that they're going to give us the Epstein documents in reality,
00:45:18.900
They have like in the photos from his house, the stuff that they confiscated from his mansion,
00:45:26.380
And so, I mean, they're not going to release the videotape and lots of it is lost too.
00:45:33.000
And so it's like the Epstein stuff, if the actual information were all to come out in
00:45:37.780
like the format that it was originally obtained and the evidence was originally collected,
00:45:41.860
that would be bombshells putting so many millionaires and billionaires away, government
00:45:48.680
It would clearly be implicating Israel in these crazy ways that just like, no one's going
00:45:54.960
But beyond that, dude, if the 9-11 documents came out, if there was any serious investigation
00:46:00.920
of what happened, which there kind of wasn't, they knew they were all over this coverup,
00:46:04.280
but like those buildings were either riddled with bombs or like some sort of like, and if
00:46:10.120
it wasn't bombs, it was like directed energy weapons or something like who the fuck knows,
00:46:14.820
And the amount of evidence that had to be covered up, the amount of like angles on two
00:46:19.800
different plane crashes, one over in fucking Pennsylvania, right?
00:46:23.180
The Pentagon, not to mention just all like the Israeli art student coverup, just all the
00:46:28.980
high level communications between people that were involved in 9-11.
00:46:32.820
And it's like those documents blow recent history wide open in a way that I don't think
00:46:42.340
And, and, um, you know, with, with 9-11, man, it's, uh, you know, I had Richard Gage
00:46:48.400
on a couple of weeks ago and we really went in the weeds, um, with, you know, the buildings
00:46:52.940
going down from a engineering standpoint and 3000 plus engineers put their names on the line
00:46:58.180
saying, yeah, this was a controlled demolition, bro.
00:47:00.440
For, you know, and, and if people don't believe that there was a controlled demolition for
00:47:05.740
Like literally went down perfectly symmetrical, indicative of dynamite being placed in perfect
00:47:11.620
pivotal positions to bring the building down in, in a very clean manner.
00:47:15.760
So, and like the BBC reporting that it had fallen before it had fallen, like on live
00:47:20.780
TV, the woman's fucking talking about how building seven just came down and it is still
00:47:24.460
standing in the video frame behind her shit like that.
00:47:27.600
That's just like silver science saying, pull it like shit like that.
00:47:30.920
Like, it's just like, you know, we're just going to pull it.
00:47:34.100
It's, it's, um, you know, when you actually look at 9-11 with a very, um, you know, thorough
00:47:39.840
lens, you start to realize like, okay, yeah, Al Qaeda was involved.
00:47:42.940
These guys want to take it down, but they wouldn't have been able to do it with that level of
00:47:49.860
You know, I, now you bring in these Israeli operatives that were, you know, caught dancing,
00:47:54.080
uh, on the Dobrik towers or whatever in Jersey.
00:47:56.340
Was he, and here's another interesting thing too.
00:47:58.740
Uh, I, I'm sure you, you, you know who Ryan Dawson is.
00:48:01.400
You've talked to him before, but like, uh, um, when I had him on, he mentioned one really
00:48:05.380
interesting fact that no one ever really talks about and stop me if you've heard this story
00:48:09.020
before, but like there was a group of Israelis, right.
00:48:12.660
It was in Tennessee or somewhere in the Midwest, um, on this like document benefit fraud fraud
00:48:18.040
And basically these Israelis were getting fake driver's licenses, right.
00:48:22.780
And, um, one that I'm happening is they got arrested and the person that was giving them
00:48:26.880
the documents was this black woman that was a DMV employee.
00:48:35.400
But before the trial, she ends up dead in a fiery car crash.
00:48:40.020
And those Israelis that were, um, grabbed up, uh, for the, in the, in the document benefit
00:48:45.100
for fraud case, one of them or two of them had been at the world trace center months before
00:48:50.060
the attacks and they had done sprinkler work at the building.
00:48:56.000
But the problem is that they didn't have a, they didn't have a permit from the port authority
00:48:59.720
because the port authority owned the world trace center.
00:49:01.620
So what are some Israelis with fake documents doing at the world trace center months before,
00:49:10.380
And then a lot of people don't know too, that the world trace centers were basically empty.
00:49:23.360
And, and, uh, you know, rent in New York city is expensive.
00:49:25.460
So you got this asbestos problem that the property is not cash flowing.
00:49:29.040
And then nothing too, that's interesting, right?
00:49:30.920
Just, and this is my real estate hat being on when you buy commercial real estate, it's
00:49:34.760
not the same as when you buy like regular real estate.
00:49:36.740
When you buy commercial, they go off of the property and how much money it's earning.
00:49:40.060
So I thought it was really interesting that Larry Silverstein was able to get a very unorthodox
00:49:45.900
loan where he only put in like maybe five or 10% or 20%.
00:49:50.080
Um, and then they gave him the rest of the loan with the fact that the property wasn't
00:49:55.300
So that, that, that was, and he was able to get terrorism insurance.
00:49:58.160
So, you know, so all of these things that it wasn't cash flowing, it was that, you know,
00:50:03.060
as a realtor, that this building is condemned essentially, like the building was so out of
00:50:08.040
date and so full of asbestos that like no one wanted it because it was, it needed to
00:50:14.140
And so like, why does this like great property developer come in and buy it a couple months
00:50:19.200
before the fucking attacks and then take out terrorism insurance and like a really
00:50:23.880
special terrorism insurance that was going to insure both buildings against multiple
00:50:27.940
And then when they got attacked, he double claimed and got, got payouts for two different
00:50:33.180
It was like the biggest fucking insurance payout ever.
00:50:35.360
Like, I don't know if that's literally true or not, but it's, it's a huge whole, like
00:50:44.580
What they'll say is like, well, hold on the world trade center, the world trade center
00:50:50.300
And my argument to that as well, Ramsey Youssef is the nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who
00:50:57.420
I think they had this shit planned since the nineties, man, to get this thing to happen
00:51:00.680
because, um, you know, they said, Oh yeah, well it was attacked.
00:51:03.540
So that's why he took out the, uh, uh, terrorist insurance.
00:51:05.980
But when you start lining up things like the clean and break memo, how this attack happened
00:51:09.220
in 1993, how was he able to get this terrorism insurance?
00:51:11.540
The fact that the buildings didn't make any money, he want to goes ahead and still gets a
00:51:14.840
loan somehow given to him because these banks are not going to give you a loan on a property
00:51:19.820
So everything here was just screaming of, of a setup, man.
00:51:25.060
Um, and then the one thing that would take years to dream up in the first place, years
00:51:30.220
to plot and think through all the angles and then years to put all the pieces in play and
00:51:35.920
to get the power players that you would need to like, like, it's so complex.
00:51:40.000
And that's why it's so unbelievable to people that haven't actually seen the evidence.
00:51:43.500
But, but the thing is that we like, I don't think there really are nine 11 documents, like
00:51:49.020
because the coverup was from like our zero, they immediately were on the coverup.
00:51:54.020
The coverup was like, they shipped away all the fucking steel and all the pulverized buildings.
00:51:58.800
Like they literally shipped out the actual evidence of the building immediately because
00:52:06.080
So like the amount of coverup that was already prepared is immense.
00:52:09.260
Um, so there's not really like, I don't think there's a documents, but the cool thing is
00:52:14.920
that a, there's already enough evidence in the public sphere to pretty much understand
00:52:19.640
And Ryan Dawson is a great example of a dude that's done all the research, has it all sourced
00:52:24.100
and actually can tell you like from start to finish name by name, like every single thing
00:52:30.560
I mean, like the proverbial you, you've done a shitload of it, Myron.
00:52:33.580
Um, but if we were to get a nine 11 documents, like what is actually being talked about now,
00:52:38.680
you saw the guy, the Congressman that went on Tucker recently talking about nine 11, uh,
00:52:45.640
Say again, the guy that got fired from the Pentagon or, or, oh no.
00:52:55.200
Um, I mean, I've heard some people trying to call him controlled opposition or something,
00:52:59.000
Um, and that is what I think we're actually going to get is if, if we get something about
00:53:04.460
nine 11, it'll be an investigation, an independent like commission, which we totally deserve and
00:53:09.860
should have, because if you had an independent commission and investigation, it could more
00:53:14.720
than get to the bottom of what had really happened.
00:53:16.880
If you just dug through the government files and did some extra investigation, interviewed
00:53:20.440
some people like fucking, you know, through some subpoenas around, um, it's still well within
00:53:25.080
range of finding out what happened in a way that like JFK is just way too far back.
00:53:29.000
Like that's never fucking, we're not getting any more evidence than what is already in those
00:53:33.060
And we already have seen the documents and they're scrubbed, um, to a large degree.
00:53:36.620
So, um, Epstein is the same way where a lot of the shit probably already got scrubbed,
00:53:40.360
but it's like, everyone's fucking sitting there like Delaine Maxwell.
00:53:45.600
Um, Alan Dershowitz, no one's asking him any questions.
00:53:49.940
So it's like, those are the two big ones that we could easily break wide open tomorrow.
00:53:55.880
And, and, you know, it's, um, with the, with the Sheldon thing,
00:53:58.940
with, you know, I know some people say, oh yeah, he's my control opposition.
00:54:02.320
Look, any guy that's like a former congressman coming in here saying like, I think it was
00:54:06.260
controlled demolition and there's an alternative story and, or at least questions the 9-11
00:54:14.040
Because, you know, the, the, the more we could continue to debunk the 9-11 commission, which
00:54:26.600
And then I, I, he also mentioned some things that I didn't even know.
00:54:29.040
The guy that ran the 9-11 commission, um, I forget his name, but he's a hardcore Zinus.
00:54:37.620
If you guys could remind me who, what the guy's last name was, um, that was the head
00:54:44.980
And then, yeah, with, with the, the whole Epstein thing.
00:54:47.320
With the, um, Wexler, um, it's, it's crazy to me how like, um, nothing has been done on
00:54:53.720
And they, they did that rollout and brought these like Twitter influencers there and there
00:54:57.200
hasn't been anything left and they really, uh, nothing since.
00:54:59.940
And then like, uh, what they released a bunch of flight logs that people already had.
00:55:05.820
Um, and all of this is happening while they're fucking pushing for war with Iran, like so
00:55:10.800
And I like, I've not been keeping super tight tabs on what's going on in there, but it feels
00:55:15.460
like from looking in from the outside, tell me if you see something else, it feels like
00:55:18.920
Pete Hegseth and maybe Donald himself are the two that are kind of the most like, that
00:55:23.560
are like, man, like, let's not actually fucking bomb Iran guys.
00:55:32.180
They're trying to smear the shit out of Pete Hegseth day after day, after day, after
00:55:36.040
day, because they got to get them the fuck out of there because he's this major blockage
00:55:39.640
because they are like, they, and you were actually the one that has said this.
00:55:44.060
And I've read some, some of your tweets about this, how like Israel needs to act on the weakness
00:55:49.140
that they've created in Iran and in the middle East right now, they have killed all of Iran's
00:55:58.100
So they don't have to deal with Hamas right now.
00:56:00.080
And they've got some of the U S support still on their side and they like fucking need to
00:56:06.800
So even though it's unpopular, they got to push for it because they need American support
00:56:09.920
and they need to be able to censor people like you and me and Candace and Joe and Tucker
00:56:16.220
And then like, they need to start dropping bombs right away because, because they only
00:56:22.740
And if after Donald Trump, like, how do they know that they're going to get someone else
00:56:27.420
If you get a leftist, even if it's a Zionist leftist, like how is a leftist going to go
00:56:32.640
Even if you're Zionist, bro, I can't even have to burn the fucking country down.
00:56:37.600
This is the best chance they've had in like decades.
00:56:39.540
Cause I've been like studying this conflict very tightly, staying up on it.
00:56:42.280
And, um, basically there's a war going on in the white house.
00:56:45.460
Um, you got people like Pete Hexeth, Donald Trump, uh, JD Vance, uh, and Tulsi Gabbard
00:56:50.540
who are, you know, trying to go the diplomacy route.
00:56:53.220
Then you got people like Mike Waltz and his squad saying, no, we need to attack now.
00:56:57.020
And, you know, it's interesting how they're using the single gate situation to try to get
00:57:01.200
Pete Hexeth fired, but it was actually Mike Waltz that invited the reporter into the
00:57:06.660
So, um, well, they broke a new signal chat, like story that he had like,
00:57:12.280
like texted his wife and his brother or something like that.
00:57:16.640
They're, yeah, they're trying to, they're trying again.
00:57:18.620
And they fired a couple of his right-hand guys.
00:57:24.400
The guy is one of, uh, PXS right-hand guys that were put at the Pentagon.
00:57:27.500
They got rid of him and said that he was leaking information, but there's no proof of him
00:57:35.220
Like the Zionist know that it, cause here's the thing too, that they did.
00:57:45.960
That's why his bowl is going to stay weak for years now.
00:57:51.460
Like, like Israel has been throwing down some fucking hardcore Ws in the most fucked up
00:57:59.460
Let's just like, we're on, we're on Myron's show right now.
00:58:05.780
They didn't like, they weren't Hamas themselves, but they 100% had surveillance on that plan
00:58:12.020
They might like, it's, I would not be surprised if they hadn't created the opening or given
00:58:16.820
the intelligence or fed the idea, whatever it was.
00:58:21.520
The day after October 7th happens, the Egyptians go out and publicly say that we warned the Israelis
00:58:29.000
And the reason why is because Egypt is cucked by America.
00:58:31.720
We give them a bunch of aid and if they don't play nice, they don't get money.
00:58:35.140
So as soon as this shit happened, they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:58:46.420
Because clearly the fucking like, like, come on, Israel is a surveillance state.
00:58:55.260
There's an M16 in like every other fucking house.
00:58:57.280
And I'm being facetious, but like that border is heavily surveilled.
00:59:01.840
Like they fucking know what's going on over there.
00:59:03.680
You're not flying hang gliders over that fucking border with no one.
00:59:07.180
Like I did the math and the amount of time it took them to respond is like, like you and
00:59:12.000
I could have run from fucking Tel Aviv to the front lines faster than their fucking response
00:59:17.700
And then when the response did happen, they bombed their own people with their, they didn't
00:59:21.820
They rocketed their own people with their fucking helicopters.
00:59:23.820
And so it's like, they pulled off this incredibly awful, horrible thing, but they pulled it
00:59:30.080
off with October 7th and the following devastation of Gaza, which they've been planning for a
00:59:35.600
They've been salivating over that for fucking ever.
00:59:38.200
Like Israel, to their credit, has been killing the game at killing people for the last several
00:59:47.160
Look, I can oppose Israel and dislike them, but I got to admit that pager attack was probably
00:59:51.440
one of the best run intelligence operations I've seen in my life ever.
00:59:56.560
Like we tragic and super fucked up and a bunch of war crimes.
01:00:00.160
If you really think about it, but like really well executed.
01:00:03.960
And you know, especially the New York times reported that those bombs had been in those
01:00:10.660
Cause at first it like, I think a lot of the conspiracy theorists at first were like, oh,
01:00:17.260
They manufactured them with tiny little bombs in them and then sat on it and waited on
01:00:25.760
And you know that they pulled the trigger on it right then because they needed to create
01:00:30.000
the chaos and they were about to pull the trigger on going after Assad.
01:00:33.380
Like this is like coordinated step-by-step work and Iran is their next target and it's
01:00:40.680
And now they are trying their hardest to pull that fucking trigger.
01:00:43.740
And so I'm like worried that it is now false flag season.
01:00:46.720
Like it is now Iranian false flag, probably micro nuclear attack on the United States homeland.
01:00:52.820
That is what I am worried about right now, because that's how you would get America to
01:01:04.520
It obviously can't be planes fucking flying into buildings all over again.
01:01:09.880
And to see this all kind of playing out in the social media world, because unlike with
01:01:14.540
9-11, we didn't have social media to be able to talk about this stuff real time as it's
01:01:18.160
Now we've made it a lot harder for the mainstream media to kind of take the narrative and say,
01:01:24.700
Now we're able to actually like question, like, hold on one second.
01:01:29.460
And we're able to, you know, create quite a bit of a dissident audience and not keep people
01:01:34.060
from being brainwashed by the mainstream media because they don't have the same monopoly
01:01:39.400
Like people forget that people actually supported the Iraq war in the beginning.
01:01:46.240
All kinds of fucking people did like, and they, to be fair, like they were fucking smart.
01:01:51.460
And not only did they pull off 9-11 more or less, but they also pulled off the anthrax
01:01:57.120
And the anthrax attacks were fucking total bullshit.
01:02:04.060
It was like, once you had all the facts, it was obvious what had happened, but they just
01:02:08.200
needed to be convincing enough for like that month to get Colin Powell to go out and parrot
01:02:15.680
And like to get just that, you know, those couple of sound bites and to link it to Saddam
01:02:22.420
They needed that outrage with the beheaded babies and the babies in the ovens.
01:02:26.760
Even if it's like, okay, we just need it for two weeks so that we can justify going in.
01:02:31.240
So, and then crazy dude, I'm sure you probably saw this.
01:02:34.160
Like you have gone out, went on Israeli media and admitted that they implemented the fucking
01:02:43.060
You can't find an American media, but if you look at Israeli media, he goes on there
01:02:45.940
and he says, cause he got fired, um, that we implemented it and we should have implemented
01:02:51.380
So yeah, dude, like literally admitting, yeah, we killed our own people in the kibbutz.
01:02:59.360
So they turned down multiple peace deals where Hamas offered all the hostages back for peace
01:03:05.280
Cause I, I would, I'm just assuming this is my interpretation.
01:03:11.660
And I assume that those were Hamas was thinking, we're going to do this attack to make a statement
01:03:16.620
and we're going to take hostages so that we can then exchange them back in exchange for
01:03:22.700
And I think that they were fooled into thinking that that was going to fucking work.
01:03:28.220
And Israel was not about to have that because, you know, they turned down that, that hostage
01:03:31.800
deal so fucking fast and buried that and switched it to like, wow, like what would
01:03:40.420
And I'll tell you this for the people that like say, oh, that's, that's propaganda or
01:03:45.220
And the person that reported this was basically, there was this guy that represented all the
01:03:50.760
So he would basically talk to the Israeli government on behalf of the family.
01:03:54.520
So he was the one that reported that Hamas had put a deal.
01:03:59.800
He found out later on that Hamas had put a deal together for the hostages to be returned
01:04:03.820
on the 10th in exchange for the idea of not evading Gaza.
01:04:06.960
And they said, no, we're going to go in anyway.
01:04:08.400
And, um, and this comes from Israeli reporting has been so critical to understanding at all.
01:04:13.340
Like Israeli news has actually been the one that has broken most of these stories.
01:04:17.260
It's the one that's reported most of these facts and almost everything we've talked about
01:04:21.260
Even some of the nine 11 stuff you can find in the Israeli media, which is wild, like
01:04:25.460
straight up to the fucking dancing Israelis admitting on Israeli TV that they were there
01:04:30.580
to document the attacks, which is like so fucking crazy.
01:04:34.960
So, and man, if you could get that video footage, so they like the dancing Israelis, they had
01:04:38.980
a video camera that they were seen with that never got found.
01:04:41.600
They were found with the photos because the photos I think were their personal memorabilia.
01:04:45.540
But if you, if you read through the files, it's clear that the van that had the video
01:04:50.380
camera, it made a stop where some people got out and they had a meeting at like a cafe or
01:04:58.380
And there was like a dude with some skis in the van.
01:05:00.540
And it's very weird reporting, but it's very clear that the van made a stop and people changed
01:05:05.600
And I think that's where they passed off the video camera to their boss or their handler.
01:05:09.460
And then they were on their way out and that's when they got stopped and they still
01:05:12.420
had the photos in the van and there was explosive residue.
01:05:14.780
And I think that van, it might've been a different van.
01:05:17.040
And so that's why we only have photos, but we don't have the video footage of the videos
01:05:21.860
And I think, because the thing is that photos have no audio, but if you had the video footage
01:05:26.380
that they had recorded that day, I think you would have audio of them giving away the
01:05:30.680
fact that they knew it was happening and giving away the fact of like, it, like what's going
01:05:37.540
And that's why no one ever like found that video camera and why it got covered up so hard
01:05:41.420
because that video I think would be the smoking gun.
01:05:45.600
And, um, and the, and the guy, the owner of urban moving, uh, this guy named Dominic
01:05:54.380
And you know, I, I really hope they declassify this stuff one day because what I want to look
01:05:58.680
at, and I think for everyone out there, if you guys really want to get nine 11 broke broken
01:06:02.300
open, I think what will give us the most information is the FBI did a search warrant on urban
01:06:08.220
I want the affidavit that the agents wrote to get the probable cause to go into that
01:06:16.480
And the reason why is when you write federal search warrants, it has to be extremely detailed
01:06:23.120
What makes you think that there's going to be evidence there?
01:06:26.840
In that document is going to have an enormous amount of probable cause to justify them doing
01:06:32.380
And it's going to have to be based on terrorism more than likely.
01:06:35.300
So the fact that, you know, that affidavit isn't out there when we know that they did
01:06:42.080
Cause that's going to have an enormous amount of detail because you need a lot of PC to
01:06:45.500
search someone's house or place of business or whatever.
01:06:51.400
Cause a, you're not afraid to fucking go where you're going to go and say what you're
01:06:54.440
going to say, but also your experience with law enforcement and with the system is actually,
01:07:00.720
And it's so fucking funny when someone doesn't know who you are and they'll like debate you
01:07:04.620
in a space and then realize that you're like from this world and you actually know what
01:07:08.240
you're fucking talking about when it comes to these documents and shit.
01:07:10.740
And it just like blows their brains out and they don't know what to do about it because
01:07:14.320
that's like a level of expertise that you don't even get as a researcher, unless you
01:07:18.240
spend years and years and years doing this shit is like just knowing what documents to
01:07:22.120
look for, knowing what they look like and knowing how you fill them out and knowing what's
01:07:28.220
It's funny cause they think I just yell at a 304 is, but like, you know, the people
01:07:31.180
that really know me, like you and stuff, like you guys know what I used to do.
01:07:35.440
But I think that affidavit dude is going to be a gold mine, man.
01:07:38.880
Like, um, that's just going to have so much information cause he's going to have to justify
01:07:42.340
it to a judge and they had to, and the other thing too, they got it quickly.
01:07:48.460
So they had to get put in really good probable cause to get it signed that fast.
01:07:52.460
So, um, that's going to be, so another thing that's in that, in those documents that I'd
01:07:56.760
be curious for your take on is when you read the documents, it's like a series of reports.
01:08:01.420
And some of it is like at the moment as it's happening, some of it is a like summary of
01:08:08.420
And then one, like 70 days later, whenever the Israelis got deported, there was a short
01:08:14.360
document that sort of explained like cases closed, Israelis are being transported back
01:08:18.940
And it kind of alludes, you can kind of, uh, figure out who, um, sort of quashed it and
01:08:25.880
But I wonder like, is there, do you think there's likely documentation?
01:08:30.060
Like the dude high up that comes in and says, we're closing this investigation down.
01:08:35.820
Um, did he have to, do you think that that guy has to like submit documentation or is
01:08:40.440
there like a level of brass you can have where you can just walk in and say that we're shutting
01:08:51.060
So back in 2001, there was no Homeland Security.
01:08:53.460
There was, um, it was a department of justice and underneath the department of justice, you
01:08:57.360
had a service called the immigration naturalization service.
01:09:07.100
And they were, you know, talking to them or whatever, they didn't have probable cause
01:09:12.500
So what they ended up doing was putting them in immigration custody.
01:09:17.200
So, um, but at the time also, INS was a part of the department of justice.
01:09:23.360
Well, who ran, uh, the DOJ back then was a guy named Mike Chertoff.
01:09:26.480
He ran the criminal division and he's a hardcore Zionist and his mom.
01:09:31.440
I'm pretty sure he's the guy I'm talking about.
01:09:33.360
I'd have to go back and look through, but I'm pretty sure he's the guy I'm talking about.
01:09:35.580
He is the guy because he was the one that ran, um, the criminal division of the department
01:09:39.840
So basically he was like the second or third in charge after the attorney general.
01:09:44.220
So, um, so he absolutely oversaw because he was over at both the FBI and INS.
01:09:50.040
And what I think would also be interesting, there's a form now I'm really getting in the
01:09:54.840
weeds here, but you've got my mind thinking there's a form called the I-213 and the I-213
01:09:59.940
when, whenever, um, you encounter illegal aliens or you be, or, or you're, you know,
01:10:04.520
going through the deportation process, um, there's going to be a narrative of a 213.
01:10:08.880
That would also be interesting as well to see what they put in that D, uh, 213 as to why
01:10:16.420
So they had to go ahead and somehow, uh, go about removing their status some way.
01:10:21.660
So that 2-213 would have a lot of different, um, information as well.
01:10:26.140
That might be easier to get cause that stuff isn't classified, but, um, but yeah, Chertoff
01:10:39.240
But then when you check his early life, you read it.
01:10:41.380
Michael Chertoff was born to Gershon Baruch Chertoff, a rabbi and Talmudic scholar who
01:10:47.380
was the leader of congregation B'nai Israel in Elizabeth, New Jersey.
01:10:52.720
Let me give you, I'll give you a co-host right now.
01:11:02.780
He's definitely, um, you know, uh, you still see me?
01:11:12.700
So early life, um, and Livia Chertoff, a Polish born Israeli American who was the first flight
01:11:19.000
His paternal grandparents are Paul Chertoff, a rabbi and professor of Talmud, um, and Esther
01:11:25.520
He attended Jewish educational center, um, graduated from Harvard, shocker.
01:11:30.260
Uh, so it's like, that's a heck of a family to come from.
01:11:33.420
And for them to be Talmudic scholars is like, bro, what are we doing?
01:11:38.480
And then you check his photo and it's just like, oh, yeah, you can't, you can't make
01:11:42.880
And then you wonder why, cause everyone wondered how the hell did these guys get deported after
01:11:47.040
Well, the guy that ran the DOJ who was over the INS back then before Homeland Security
01:11:55.420
One of the founding, um, agents for Mossad, his mom, this guy Chertoff.
01:12:04.880
And then he got a bunch of cushy fucking deals after he left the government, um, worked for
01:12:12.200
And then he went and worked for Bay is a military industrial complex.
01:12:21.840
Um, and member of the Atlantic council, uh, global commission of this on the stability
01:12:31.320
It's, it's, it's, it's crazy that, um, you know, when you actually look at these guys
01:12:38.100
and how they got released, because I'll tell you this, if those guys were like Muslims or
01:12:41.340
whatever, there's no way they would have been released only after 70 days in an immigration
01:12:45.180
They'd be in Funk of Guantanamo Bay to this day, Ian.
01:12:54.120
Um, but yeah, I was like, like we're discussing before church off and then the FBI turned them
01:12:58.620
over to INS and they were going there and interviewing them on multiple occasions.
01:13:07.440
So 9-11 dude, you know, if me and you could see it in our lifetime, I'd be really happy,
01:13:14.880
It's, uh, I mean, the good thing though, about 9-11 and Jeffrey Epstein is that they happened
01:13:19.120
recently enough and in the age of the internet where enough came out onto the internet.
01:13:23.580
And that's the thing that I think that they were not ready for.
01:13:25.980
And same with right now around October 7th and around trying to get to a war with Iran
01:13:30.200
is I think that these, like the people orchestrating this bullshit, they are old, like they're
01:13:35.260
old motherfuckers and they don't understand the way that media can keep up with you.
01:13:39.840
And so we've already got enough on the internet and that's why everyone is slowly waking up
01:13:44.960
to all this bullshit is because there's such a good argument with so much primary
01:13:48.940
source data and evidence about 9-11 and about Epstein in particular.
01:13:52.760
The JFK one is way more fuzzy and way more like you have to really dig into who was who
01:13:58.200
and what was what and why were they there and all this crazy shit.
01:14:01.360
Um, and it's way harder still, even like the experts, a lot of them arrive at the idea that
01:14:05.420
it was only the CIA or it was only the mafia or whatever, you know, it's like, whatever.
01:14:08.800
But these ones, it's like, I've not heard a single expert take that has actually legitimately
01:14:14.300
argued that 9-11 had no Israeli involvement because they just avoid the evidence and they
01:14:21.680
It's like even more obvious with Jeffrey Epstein because the whole fucking organization was
01:14:25.260
Israeli and Jewish people, um, straight up to fucking Ehud Barak.
01:14:32.180
And I think that their plans don't, don't like account for how much freedom of information
01:14:36.860
the internet allows and social media allows for us to have.
01:14:40.440
Um, have you, did you hear about the, um, blackmail ring that was exposed in Italy at
01:14:48.580
And the president, like basically she, uh, she, she condemned Israel, Israel for that,
01:14:54.140
Oh, well, a little bit, but it's even more obvious than that.
01:14:56.420
It's like, so a, her government was probably in on it because the mafia was in on it and
01:15:01.260
the Vatican was in on it, but it was an Israeli tech firm and the Israeli tech company Paragon
01:15:08.420
Dude, I thought like, no one has ever heard this story.
01:15:12.360
I'm shocked that you're bringing this up right now.
01:15:13.560
Cause I do remember at the end of the summer, them talking about this saying like, Hey,
01:15:20.360
So fucking fast, but the Italian press was still reporting on it.
01:15:23.900
And there's a few, um, and actually it's a few Israeli publications, mostly Ynet news
01:15:29.000
kept reporting on it and it kept breaking more and more and more.
01:15:32.460
So at first it was just like, Oh, this weird hacker.
01:15:35.560
And it was actually a dude that had hacked the Pentagon with anonymous that was now working
01:15:39.320
in the Italian government, like theoretically for the Italian government, but he had been
01:15:42.760
hacking into Italian government and just selling the services of Paragon, which is like
01:15:46.940
the new, um, uh, what was the P the, the one that they used to chop up a non-Kashoggi.
01:15:53.240
Um, um, the Saudis with this, when they killed them in Turkey, what was the name of that,
01:16:01.540
I don't know the name, but I'm familiar with them slicing up Khashoggi.
01:16:11.120
So they can just install it on your phone without you knowing.
01:16:13.140
And it gives them access to your, your telegram, your WhatsApp and your signal.
01:16:16.780
And so Mark Zuckerberg and Meta is actually suing over it.
01:16:22.880
And when you dig it and when they started to dig it open, that Paragon was founded by
01:16:27.480
Ehud Barak and Ehud Schneerson, who was the X 8,200 commander.
01:16:31.760
Um, and it's a fucking Israeli tech company in the same mold where Israel exports their
01:16:37.880
And then they just, and they literally caught Israeli spies, Mossad spies going to this outfit
01:16:42.980
and having secret communications with them and offering them like million dollar contracts
01:16:49.300
And because they started hacking into WhatsApp, Zuckerberg got involved and it all, it's like,
01:16:55.000
It's literally the Vatican, the mafia, the fucking Israeli intelligence services hacking
01:17:00.240
And they'll sell these hacking services to anyone you want.
01:17:03.560
It's like 250 euros, DACA personal phone, tens of thousands of euros.
01:17:07.880
For a dossier on any specific individual you want.
01:17:12.900
It's still just like Israeli hacking and blackmail schemes all over the fucking place.
01:17:17.400
People think that they only steal from us, dude.
01:17:20.340
They literally steal technology from everybody.
01:17:22.300
They're by far like the best, um, you know, thefts of technology and military information
01:17:30.460
And they have to be because their military isn't as powerful, right?
01:17:36.100
Like they have to be good at this stuff because they can't necessarily fight ground wars like
01:17:40.300
So they have to rely a lot on their intelligence community to get things done behind the scenes.
01:17:45.120
Um, you know, that they have the most successful assassinations of any intelligence agency in
01:18:01.600
They declassified the RFK, um, senior documents.
01:18:04.920
And then obviously with, uh, I haven't actually gotten to dig through them yet, but I presume
01:18:07.980
that they confirm what we knew that it was not Sirhan Sirhan at all.
01:18:11.540
Um, did they actually have any juicy stuff in there about who it might've been and like
01:18:20.040
Um, but yes, you know, it's confirming what we talked about, like, um, there's a little
01:18:24.820
bit more spotlight being put on, um, Thane, Eugene, Caesar, the guy that was behind them.
01:18:29.920
I think the normies are starting to finally figure out that Sirhan wasn't a shooter.
01:18:35.240
And we, we had actually a fair bit of evidence already that Sirhan was the target of some sort
01:18:40.720
of like weird hypnosis program or some fucking MK ultra bullshit, which is crazy in and
01:18:45.880
Um, so like, yeah, the, the RFK senior story is big.
01:18:49.640
And RFK junior had a solid take on it all along.
01:18:54.940
Uh, but the, the issue with RFK is that he made a lot of fucking promises on the way in
01:18:59.700
and, and they were great and all, but for a while it was looking like he was backtracking
01:19:05.220
on fucking all of them and instead calling antisemitism the greatest health crisis in
01:19:12.100
Um, fortunately he's actually been getting pretty fucking hard with it the last like couple
01:19:17.100
weeks here and he's going after vaccines in a bigger way.
01:19:20.440
Now he's talking a little bit more like cohesively, um, about autism and about chem trails and
01:19:27.940
Um, he's even talking about wifi radiation and stuff that are kind of third rails that
01:19:32.800
Um, but the big one is the shots and the big one is COVID and COVID reconciliation.
01:19:37.620
And so when, even though it's kind of just a formality, when I saw that the white house
01:19:41.480
changed the white house.gov slash COVID-19 webpage to like clearly implicate Anthony Fauci
01:19:48.280
to clearly implicate the lab leak to clearly implicate the whole organization that like
01:19:53.000
constructed it, uh, created the virus that they didn't go after the vaccines yet, but
01:19:58.780
Um, so I'm, I, I, people say that I waffle a lot, that I changed my opinions with the wind
01:20:03.120
and it's like, no shit, because I think that anyone that thinks they know everything is
01:20:07.420
Like you're way too fucking self-confident if you think, you know, everything before it's
01:20:12.080
And RFK is such a good example where there is lots of evidence and a lot of it, like a
01:20:17.280
lot of the stuff that people like myself and Candace know about the blackmail angle of it.
01:20:21.640
We purposely didn't talk about a lot of the details because I'm not trying to like break
01:20:28.620
Like I'm not trying to project out what everyone inside of his campaign is.
01:20:33.120
Rumoring and talking about, and even some of the stuff that like was coming out of that
01:20:37.220
Jessica girl's mouth, like just the fact that a lot of people around him have for a
01:20:44.600
long time felt like there's this weird control system around him.
01:20:54.720
Um, and, and some of the stuff that I've heard is super, like, like a bummer to hear, but none
01:21:00.680
Like so far I have not heard of him raping or having sex with any kids, just to clarify.
01:21:05.480
Um, but it's still like, basically is what it comes down to.
01:21:10.480
Like, I mean, and I've, I've heard allegations or I've heard speculations that, that have
01:21:14.620
like circumstantial evidence that are the kind of thing that could influence his behavior.
01:21:19.720
Even if it's stuff that like, we wouldn't care about is the kind of stuff that I would,
01:21:22.720
I think that it would influence it influenced Bobby's behavior.
01:21:28.940
Um, but so it's like, I, I'm just watching what he's doing and trying to gauge like, and
01:21:33.600
I purposely broke it the way I did because I was, I was down with taking a little bit
01:21:37.580
of a credibility hit because I wanted to project a, to show RFK that the whole world was like,
01:21:47.060
Like we don't give a fuck about your transgressions.
01:21:49.380
Um, but B also just sort of, um, fire a little bit of a warning shot that like the media is
01:21:56.080
like, we alternative media are onto this story and we are onto the fact that it's not like,
01:22:00.640
it's not RFK's like, yeah, he's a piece of shit if he's doing these things.
01:22:03.820
But at the same time, like we're onto the people that are onto him, so to speak.
01:22:08.940
Cause everyone in Maha was already thinking it.
01:22:10.660
And I was like, I don't care if like, I don't have access to him.
01:22:16.680
Um, and, and so I, I'm still waiting to see what he does, but I, I know that whether he's
01:22:22.700
compromised or not, whether he's like perfect or not, he's fighting against the biggest
01:22:35.820
Um, and so I understand that it could take a long time.
01:22:41.380
He has to like walk it, you know, slowly in, in like small steps.
01:22:44.620
And ultimately we're not going to change the outcome of that at this point in a major
01:22:50.200
way, other than by supporting grassroots movements from the Maha space, supporting, getting loud
01:22:55.640
We want him to do stuff, but it's not like we're going to change the fact if he's black
01:22:58.960
milled or not, it's like, he's black milled or not.
01:23:00.560
If he's like, you know, shilling for Israel because of some reason, it's like, we're not
01:23:05.980
Um, we're just going to watch and see what happens.
01:23:08.260
And we're going to learn from that about like in the future and, and what we might do next
01:23:12.620
to try to get some fucking reconciliation around COVID because COVID is the biggest
01:23:17.580
fucking health crisis that ever happened in the world.
01:23:20.780
It's not because it was like a fucking disease that killed people, but because they locked
01:23:24.520
everyone down over a fucking virus, a bioweapon that they made, and then gave a bioweapon
01:23:29.500
shot to everyone that they made that they knew was going to kill people.
01:23:34.620
Um, and so when he comes out talking about antisemitism, it's just like, dude, shut the
01:23:41.860
Um, yeah, it's, you know, and the thing is too, is like, I liked the RFK.
01:23:45.900
I was actually really excited when they brought him on.
01:23:48.000
Cause he was like, you know, uh, kind of a, you know, an anti-establishment guy, but
01:23:52.620
then he comes in, he kind of goes backwards on the vaccines and stuff.
01:23:54.880
And I haven't been paying as much attention to him.
01:23:58.060
So, so basically he got off track and you're saying he got back on track now.
01:24:03.560
Like, and it seems like it's sort of, he's getting a little bit better and a little bit
01:24:09.960
And he's starting to go after bigger and bigger issues a little bit more vocally each time
01:24:14.540
as he gets sort of more of his team aligned, which, which makes perfect sense.
01:24:19.700
Um, and so I'm, I'm optimistic because that's the best way to be, but I'm very ready to be
01:24:27.820
Because like, he's up against the biggest fucking, you know, scam in the world.
01:24:32.860
And all those industries are plugged into like, Lord knows what behind the scenes.
01:24:36.820
So, you know, having him in, like, I, this is the same way I feel about Trump is like,
01:24:41.100
whether or not Trump makes good decisions or bad decisions, whether or not these guys are
01:24:46.060
owned by Israel or not, whether or not they're like playing fucking 5d chess or we're getting
01:24:51.640
Like there's this huge win of us just voting for them and saying that we all fucking want
01:24:57.580
this because that changes all of the American mindset to say that like, we want health.
01:25:07.580
And just us all knowing that we all voted for that and knowing that we all expect that,
01:25:11.900
even if we get played by these two politicians, our power is growing for the next cycle and
01:25:20.740
And watching, for example, if we watch like them just shill for Israel and like just do
01:25:28.440
That's an L, but at the same time, that's a W for the media and that's a W for people waking
01:25:32.880
And that will just be even more if we, if they've managed to fucking take us to Iran and
01:25:37.020
take us into war with Iran, the amount of waking up that is going to happen is going
01:25:42.380
So like every step back is also steps forward and every step forward can sometimes feel
01:25:47.960
And the most important thing is that we're just paying attention and like staying loud
01:25:51.340
and have freedom of speech to keep, keep talking about it.
01:25:55.880
Something that we didn't have with the Iraq war.
01:25:57.560
If we had the social media presence that we had back in 2003, that Iraq war probably
01:26:02.360
wouldn't have been as popular and been able to be facilitated the way that it was.
01:26:05.760
I bet it would have been shut down halfway through Afghanistan, dude.
01:26:08.740
By the time we realized that we were literally like running the global opium trade out of
01:26:12.380
Afghanistan for big pharma and starting the goddamn opium epidemic, like we would have
01:26:18.700
And, um, so, so RFK, so he's, he's getting back on track with the stuff and you're saying
01:26:23.180
that, uh, I've seen a lot of stuff about autism.
01:26:26.240
Can you kind of explain to the audience real quick what's going on with this, with this
01:26:30.960
So he's being, he's being thoughtful and careful, but he is starting to talk about, um, about
01:26:38.660
investigating the causes of autism and more people around him are starting to bring up
01:26:43.960
the insane data and the terminology of an epidemic of autism.
01:26:47.760
Cause we like, like the numbers vary depending on which sources you use, but it's more or
01:26:51.980
less, it's like, we went from one in 10,000 people are autistic to one in 30, almost.
01:26:59.220
Dude, as I've gotten older, like I remember growing up as a kid, no one had autism.
01:27:06.760
And there's this like erasure that's trying to happen where the mainstream is trying to
01:27:10.220
erase it by saying like, oh no, it's like bigger, better diagnostics.
01:27:16.020
And so now there's Asperger's included and all this bullshit.
01:27:18.360
It's like, that does not fucking account for one in 10,000 to one in 32, not even close.
01:27:22.820
And, and even if you, and you can like, there is data that breaks it down to severe autism
01:27:29.460
And it's very clear that there is a crazy spike that's been happening over the last 20 years.
01:27:34.140
Um, and so then there's like this whole campaign where like Asperger's people were coming out
01:27:38.860
and being like, I did this great thing with my life.
01:27:47.740
You're putting out propaganda and you're trying to pretend that autism is not an issue.
01:27:52.340
Severely autistic people are like, they smear shit on the walls and they bang their head into
01:27:56.780
walls and they run away without, with, with no warning, like just like book it.
01:28:03.480
And so we're talking like a trillion dollars of healthcare required as this population of
01:28:09.960
Like there's no way we can support this at this current rate, let alone if it increases.
01:28:15.720
Are they, it's pretty obvious that it's coming from some of these fucking poisons, probably
01:28:19.060
from the vaccines, probably from some of the other poisons too, maybe from like in the
01:28:23.300
food, maybe from the fucking stuff they're spraying in the air.
01:28:25.560
We don't really know, but it's pretty obvious vaccines are in there somewhere.
01:28:29.240
So, um, they're starting to talk a lot more at just about studying the causes and doing
01:28:34.640
gold standard, like testing on the causes and just getting the conversation started.
01:28:38.420
And the, and the pushback is exactly what you would expect from the establishment to
01:28:43.700
try to shut it up and to try to make it like go away and to try to smear it.
01:28:47.100
And so that's telling me they're on the right track.
01:28:48.880
And that's also telling me that they're earnest because they're getting that pushback.
01:28:52.340
I hope, um, so it'll be a while before we get those answers.
01:28:55.500
It'll be, I mean, hopefully this year, but cause this whole autism thing, dude, like
01:29:00.740
this is something that's like a phenomenon over the past, like 10 or 15 years.
01:29:04.720
Like, uh, you know, I would say like since the 2010s, um, well, like it wasn't like that
01:29:10.120
So yeah, it could be something with the food, the vaccine, something or in the past 20 to
01:29:15.560
And it's good that he's asking these questions.
01:29:16.980
So, um, as far as Dr. Fauci goes and COVID, cause it's interesting because you used to get
01:29:21.600
banned for having this conversation that we're having right now.
01:29:29.460
And it's crazy how the Wuhan lab, uh, you know, theory, that was a conspiracy theory before
01:29:34.700
starting to get more lights and become a bit more legitimized.
01:29:37.640
Do you think they're going to go after Fauci, bro?
01:29:38.980
Cause I think, uh, Biden, I mean, dude, have you been to whitehouse.gov slash COVID-19?
01:29:44.440
Oh, you know, oh, bro, dude, I'm pretty sure that you want to share it on screen.
01:29:52.780
Cause I think Biden gave him, uh, uh, uh, a pardon and they actually, uh, uh, I'm going
01:30:02.440
to have to like search for it, but they actually like point out that pardon on this official
01:30:07.680
Oh, they talked about, oh, oh dude, check this out.
01:30:10.900
If you have not seen this yet, share this fucking screen.
01:30:13.980
So this is official government website, whitehouse.gov slash, uh, lat origins.
01:30:29.300
Lab leak Trump at the top, the true origins of COVID-19, the origin, the virus possesses
01:30:35.100
a biological characteristics that is not found in nature.
01:30:38.080
Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans.
01:30:43.020
This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover.
01:30:46.260
So they're like sharing the evidence of why it was a lab leak.
01:30:49.440
What lab Wuhan Institute of Virology research researchers were sick with COVID-19 like symptoms
01:30:53.500
in the fall of 2019 months before COVID-19 was discovered in the wet market, all this shit.
01:30:58.520
So they're like clearly laying out the whole thing with sources, with oversight reports,
01:31:03.820
proximal origin publication, gain of function research, EcoHealth Alliance, Inc., NIH failures.
01:31:09.160
Like they fucking, under the leadership of Dr. Peter Daszak, used U.S. taxpayer dollars
01:31:15.480
to facilitate dangerous gain of function research in Wuhan, China.
01:31:25.780
HHS obstruction, EcoHealth obstruction, Dr. David Morin's, New York obstruction.
01:31:42.040
There was no conclusive evidence that masks effectively protected Americans from COVID-19.
01:31:46.820
Public health officials flip-flopped on the efficacy of masks without providing American
01:31:51.640
scientific data, causing a massive uptick in public distrust.
01:31:56.500
They break down the lockdowns and why that was all bullshit.
01:32:00.620
They point the finger directly at former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo's March 25th order,
01:32:05.480
which forced nursing homes to accept COVID-19 positive patients, was medical malpractice.
01:32:14.520
Public health officials often misled the American people through conflicting messaging,
01:32:19.420
knee-jerk reactions, and a lack of transparency.
01:32:23.280
And then they published this whole report, 557 pages down here.
01:32:29.700
And yeah, in some ways it's like, it's like propaganda.
01:32:33.340
Like it's Trump like taking a huge W that was like just out there waiting for him.
01:32:38.080
Um, and let's be clear, like Trump was fucking the daddy of the vaccine.
01:32:44.620
Um, and like, you know, I, I hold my ear open to this sort of like, it's kind of like the
01:32:50.880
It's like these deeper researchers, um, not like the hardcore Qs, but like Q soft that
01:32:55.380
they talk about how the FEMA camps were all set up and the plan was apparently to send
01:33:00.920
fucking people that weren't vaccinated to FEMA camps and to basically like do concentration
01:33:06.420
And so Trump like allegedly like fast track the vaccines to undermine the FEMA camp plan.
01:33:13.600
And I don't know how to like, I don't have the time to try to dig into the sourcing to
01:33:18.860
But I keep my ear open to it because I expect that we might get more evidence about that
01:33:24.860
If this is the direction that Trump is going with this thing.
01:33:27.680
Um, so this is a huge W in my mind, and this is not, uh, RFK doing this, but it's in the
01:33:34.800
It's in this, it's in the direction of COVID accountability while RFK is talking about
01:33:38.760
vaccine, uh, safety data and vaccine, uh, studies.
01:33:43.300
And so like shit's getting done, um, which is exciting.
01:33:46.160
And it's all of that was in the last couple of weeks here.
01:33:48.600
I remember if you talked about Wuhan or China virus or eating bats or any of that other
01:33:53.800
stuff, you would get, you know, in serious trouble on Tik TOK, on YouTube, any of these
01:34:01.280
So we know it's, it actually is from China and the Wuhan Institute.
01:34:04.020
Um, yeah, it's a bat virus that was like tampered with.
01:34:11.900
And, and there's, you, you can actually trace it.
01:34:14.380
And, um, plandemic number two, I believe the plandemic documentary number two, you can watch
01:34:22.440
Um, they trace it all the way back into like a decade and more of actual like Corona virus
01:34:29.840
As people were like patenting Corona viruses and experimenting on Corona viruses and all
01:34:34.940
the people that were involved in all this research to make Corona viruses more deadly and
01:34:40.000
And then at a certain point in, I think like 2015 or 2016, they started to get kind of cold
01:34:44.640
feet because something changed in the legality.
01:34:46.760
And they were like, uh, it's a little fucking hot to keep doing this research in the United
01:34:53.140
And that's when they moved it to the Wuhan Institute because they wanted to do it overseas,
01:34:59.140
Um, and they had way more legal protection that way.
01:35:03.120
And that's when Peter Daszak and Equal Health Alliance got set up and went over there.
01:35:06.400
Um, and so it's, it's pretty clear that it was like bioweapons research and it's pretty
01:35:11.880
clear that it was, I mean, this is still saying it was a lab leak.
01:35:24.140
Maybe it was accidental, totally understandable, but like the response and how much money was
01:35:30.520
made off it and the vaccine and like the way it fit into the plan.
01:35:33.560
Like I cannot help, but when wonder it's like saying it was accidental is just like saying
01:35:38.280
like tower seven collapsed because it fucking fires.
01:35:41.260
It's like, eh, yeah, that does not quite track with the bigger picture of what was going
01:35:47.540
Um, Jake had a guest on and they talked about, um, the Mossad being involved with, uh, with
01:36:00.120
I'll, I'll send it to you on the side because the facts are a little fuzzy in my head, but
01:36:03.660
It's a peer reviewed paper where they had the, um, one of the earlier strains of, uh, of the
01:36:11.760
Um, and they were working on it back since the eighties.
01:36:14.120
I'll send you the peer reviewed paper that discusses.
01:36:16.160
I think you could probably make a whole video on it and do really well.
01:36:21.000
I'm stoked to go catch up with Jake again when I'm back in Vegas.
01:36:23.280
Yeah, no, he had a very interesting guest that talked about that.
01:36:26.880
I'll send it to you because I think you could actually make a really good deep dive.
01:36:36.620
They, they expire after a while and now I don't have that notification anymore, but like
01:36:41.740
I will usually film my videos in TikTok, download them and then delete them off of TikTok because
01:36:47.960
They are the most banny bullshit platform fucking whiners.
01:36:51.700
Um, so I, I basically just post on X and Instagram and then that goes to Facebook, which I don't
01:36:57.540
And now I'm doing my YouTube pretty hard because YouTube seems to be wide open these days.
01:37:05.520
And I've got, I still got my, literally I've got my first account.
01:37:08.400
One point, it's about to hit 1.8 million followers on TikTok.
01:37:11.420
So I just like to keep it there just to like, you know, rub it in everyone's faces on TikTok.
01:37:15.000
Um, and I hope I can keep it forever, but whatever, dude, I'm not stressed if it dies, but I don't
01:37:21.480
They don't pay me any much anymore because I'm never posting and I don't give any views
01:37:28.200
Like, dude, honestly, if TikTok got banned, I wouldn't even be mad.
01:37:30.420
Like it's, dude, it is the worst platform ever, man.
01:37:35.600
I mean, we still have a lot of questions floating around, but there was this time right before
01:37:38.500
Trump got elected where they actually pushed the TikTok ban through like right before
01:37:42.540
he got in and then TikTok went down for like 12 hours with no explanation.
01:37:47.660
Then Trump came in and was like, well, I reversed that shit and it fucking turned back on.
01:37:52.000
And I, I mean, there are some juicy conspiracy theories floating around about what happened
01:38:03.760
They banned like watermelons in free Palestine or from the, like they banned a whole bunch of
01:38:08.280
different fucking hard and people still didn't work.
01:38:10.760
They literally banned, uh, you know, me and you know this, but like, dude, they banned
01:38:17.480
Like Jonathan Greenblatt leaked the, so the head of the ADL, Jonathan Greenblatt, there
01:38:21.560
was a leaked audio of him talking to his guys being like, we have a quote, we have a major,
01:38:31.220
And there was this whole conversation in the background.
01:38:32.940
And then they, they, when they were talking about trying to sell TikTok, the, the leading,
01:38:37.700
one of the leading groups that was going to buy it was Steve Mnuchin, which is like, you
01:38:42.740
know, a Jewish billionaire, maybe multimillionaire, um, that was getting like his buddies from
01:38:47.780
Israel and his buddies from like the, like the Jewish Trump networks.
01:38:52.660
And it was just a whole bunch of like Jewish people that they were going to buy TikTok up.
01:38:56.640
And it like, fortunately that didn't happen, but, um, it was clearly Israel.
01:39:02.800
And, and the thing about TikTok is like the youth don't fuck with censorship.
01:39:07.120
And so when they tried to first, they like were censoring like from the river to the
01:39:11.720
sea and like explicit support of Palestine and Gaza, which is already kind of fucked up
01:39:16.460
because like Israelis could be on there talking shit all day long.
01:39:20.000
But then that wasn't enough because people started to make code words.
01:39:22.940
This is what you were just alluding to is people started to sort of like get around
01:39:26.020
it a little bit and they started to censor more and more and more.
01:39:28.120
And so eventually people turned the watermelon emoji because of the colors into the symbol
01:39:33.080
And they would just post watermelon emoji in place of the word.
01:39:40.120
They would take you down for saying watermelon.
01:39:42.380
And so it's like, and the youth just saw that shit.
01:39:47.020
And so it actually just made them even more sure that they were right and made them even
01:39:52.120
So it's like, and then you get the Coachella thing where like Coachella went all crazy because
01:39:55.900
the band posted fuck Israel, free Palestine and like the world lost their mind.
01:40:00.020
And then like that band's fucking concerts sold out.
01:40:06.220
It's a, people are getting that information out there.
01:40:08.340
I will say that, um, did you ever do a deep dive on the Oklahoma city bombing?
01:40:18.660
I think you should definitely do look into it as well since it just hit the 30 year
01:40:22.580
There's some juice at the bottom of that squeeze.
01:40:24.700
There is, I think you could definitely, uh, look at, and I think it'd be good for you
01:40:28.260
because basically long story short, Timothy McVeigh, um, there was two people that, um,
01:40:34.800
rented the, the, the, the rider truck that they used where they had the explosives in
01:40:38.080
it and they drew, they drew sketches, um, and the witnesses saw two people, the other
01:40:43.780
guy that was with him, uh, the other suspect, they never actually arrested him, but they have
01:40:48.780
an idea that he was a German guy, um, who used to work, who used to be a part of the
01:40:53.260
German military and he, he got basically removed from the United States by a CIA pilot.
01:41:04.440
He was pretending to be like a white supremacist living in, um, somewhere in, uh, down South.
01:41:10.400
This, uh, it wasn't in Texas or where I forget what, what, uh, what state it was or Oklahoma,
01:41:17.960
But the point is like befriended Timothy McVeigh and like co-plotted it with them.
01:41:33.900
One guy testified, but they never got this German guy, uh, that was involved as well.
01:41:38.760
And Timothy McVeigh had called him prior to like a week or so before the bombing, presumably
01:41:45.880
Um, so yeah, there's a bunch of, uh, smoke there that I think that you, you would, uh,
01:41:50.640
And I'll definitely send you the COVID one too, that you can look into, do a deep dive on it,
01:41:57.600
Um, because it's simply the, the, you know, a lot of people don't talk about the, um, Oklahoma
01:42:01.780
city bombing much, it was the most destructive, um, domestic terrorist attack, um, ever.
01:42:09.620
Well, it was for domestic is still number one because, because they consider, they consider
01:42:17.960
Well, what about the, uh, did they separate that from the Las Vegas shooting?
01:42:27.940
As she was listening to one of your videos, dude, the Las Vegas one.
01:42:31.780
And there's so many, I'll let you just take it away.
01:42:34.380
Cause I covered the official narrative with Steven Paddock, you know, some real estate
01:42:37.700
guy randomly goes to Mandalay Bay, has a bunch of guns that just shooting down on people.
01:42:42.020
Um, but there's so many other different theories on the Vegas thing, man.
01:42:52.200
Um, it almost looks like the map got taken down.
01:42:55.660
Um, there was a Google map that someone made that had all this primary source fucking information.
01:43:06.200
And now it's not, um, it's not pulling up now that I'm looking for it.
01:43:12.960
I'm going to have to check through my notes and see if it's still there.
01:43:19.880
That is such an asshole, but he's totally the number one source to go to, um, about it.
01:43:32.120
She's done a great documentary on rumble about it.
01:43:34.520
Um, but then this dude, John, uh, I'm going to forget his name.
01:43:44.300
And he's like, he's like a little spectrum self-admitted.
01:43:47.680
And he's like kind of an asshole to anyone and everyone sometimes, but he's a great researcher.
01:43:52.320
And he's like fucking so deep down that rabbit hole.
01:43:55.520
And he has this whole YouTube channel filled with really long videos that have tidbits of really good information in them.
01:44:00.400
And he is the guy that, um, has put together the sort of the most of, um, like the, the backstory of what really happened.
01:44:11.180
Um, I'm just going to give myself one second to see if I can find him.
01:44:28.000
Hoover, but his actual name is, um, John Cullen.
01:44:32.340
And, um, and most of what I know about it comes from him and Mindy and then my own kind of research afterwards.
01:44:40.720
But, um, the short version is what it looks like.
01:44:44.760
And people should do their own research because this is just kind of my interpretation of what I've learned.
01:44:49.140
Because a lot of people haven't, like, the Vegas shooter is like kind of been censored and no one talks about it, even though it's like the most deadly mass shooting in American history.
01:44:58.020
You know, we, what, like hundreds of people were killed.
01:45:00.300
I think it's still the number one mass shooter, uh, you know.
01:45:03.540
Give the people, um, uh, because I've covered the official narrative pretty much the official narrative of guys.
01:45:07.400
And the official narrative is retarded because, A, the window in that apartment was not broken when the fucking cops entered.
01:45:13.080
And, B, they said he shot all these people with bump stocks on his fucking AR-14s.
01:45:20.660
You can watch the videos and listen to the gunfire and you know that that is a belt-fed machine gun.
01:45:26.600
AR-14s with bump stocks, like, A, they malfunction.
01:45:34.140
And, basically, the narrative that John has put together with lots of documentation and sources is that it sounds like Stephen Paddock was, like, a private gun collector that would sometimes sell some weapons and stuff.
01:45:45.820
They got honey-potted by three hot chicks in a Vegas lobby that were, like, hey, we know a billionaire and he wants to shoot some guns and buy some guns.
01:45:57.140
And those three women's names were on the hotel room.
01:45:59.380
And so he had brought all those guns up to the hotel room because he was thinking that the next day he was taking this billionaire out into the desert in order to take him shooting and sell him all these guns.
01:46:08.940
And he had all these guns, including a bunch of AK-47s that were missing from the fucking room when everyone showed up.
01:46:16.240
Because John's theory is that the door opened up on him early in that night and they shot him right then, right then in the chest, killed him.
01:46:25.500
And he was dead the entire time the shooting was happening, is John's theory, and I think he's pretty on point with it.
01:46:29.980
There's two different colored bloodstains underneath his body, one that was fresh and one that was dark.
01:46:34.780
And there's a whole bunch of AK-47 magazines with no AK-47s in the room indicating that whoever shot him took a bunch of AK-47s out of the room with them.
01:46:43.560
And then that's what they took to go and do what the actual operation.
01:46:46.680
He suspects, and I suspect with him, that it was an attempt to kill Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, who had been invited there by his brother, Al-Walid bin Talal, I believe is his name.
01:47:01.480
And it's like this whole Saudi Arabian royal family, like inner family coup, because the old guard that had been allied with Israel for a long time, that was super hardcore, they were not down with bin Salman being like, he's throwing music festivals, he's trying to let women dress how they want.
01:47:20.900
He's trying to modernize Saudi Arabia, and the old school was fucking not down.
01:47:24.900
And so he had been invited by his brother, who owned this whole, he owned a controlling stake in the Four Seasons, I'm pretty sure, is the hotel that is in that, like these six floors near the top of Mandalay Bay.
01:47:41.240
And he owned these penthouse suites, and he had invited bin Salman there to go there.
01:47:45.860
And John suspects, and I don't remember how much evidence he has, he suspects that bin Salman invited Jared Kushner and Ivanka to come and celebrate Passover, because it's also a Muslim holiday and a Jewish holiday, that time when they were there.
01:48:01.480
He suspects he invited them to that suite with them to celebrate, because they're like, you can bring your Jewish kids, and there's literally a sphinx right outside of the fucking window.
01:48:10.200
And we can tell them the story of Passover, which is about, like, the Jews fleeing from Egypt and all this shit.
01:48:16.800
He suspects that they were there, and that this was an attack on bin Salman, and Jared and Ivanka got caught up in the crossfire.
01:48:23.300
And that is why this whole political thing is still covered up, because whatever the fuck happened with the shooting, there were helicopters in the sky that were not, that had their transponders turned off.
01:48:34.160
And you can see them in the videos, if you look carefully, you can see them on the flight maps, where they come over, they turn their transponders off, and then they turn their transponders back on somewhere else during the shooting.
01:48:45.040
There's, like, somewhere, I forget how many, it's, like, somewhere between five and ten helicopters or something.
01:48:49.700
There's all this deep digging, like, this dude literally tracked down what kind of helicopters they probably were, who was training with them, they, like, all this crazy shit.
01:48:58.620
And Dan Bilzerian was there, he confirmed that they were.
01:49:08.220
Yeah, and I've spoken to him about his suspicions about the belt-fed machine guns.
01:49:13.820
And it's, like, you get a certain level of information from being on the ground.
01:49:17.440
You get different information from looking at the evidence from afar.
01:49:20.060
When you kind of triangulate it all, A, there's fucking, like, guns were found in the streets far away from the shooting.
01:49:26.320
There was sightings of people running around with guns far away from the shooting.
01:49:30.020
And the official narrative is that it was just the one crazy guy up in the window shooting through the window that wasn't actually broken.
01:49:35.340
So, clearly, the official narrative is retarded and not real.
01:49:38.840
And, B, they're, like, when people started to look at the autopsies and the angles of the shots that killed people.
01:49:44.360
And some people were killed from straight down from above shots through the head.
01:49:47.840
So, like, that can only happen if the shooter's straight above them, not if the dude's way off in this window.
01:49:52.480
Like, people were killed from shots from all these different angles.
01:49:55.240
Many people were killed from shots straight from above, basically.
01:49:57.900
Um, and I'm not, like, the one piece that does not make sense to me is the Saudi angle makes a lot of sense.
01:50:06.000
Because the Saudi purge happened right afterwards.
01:50:08.860
Where Bin Salman arrested, like, his whole fucking family.
01:50:16.300
He went to Saudi Arabia and got this royal welcome.
01:50:20.680
Jared Kushner started doing a whole bunch of business with Bin Salman right after that.
01:50:25.680
What doesn't really line up for me is why are you shooting all the people at the concert if you're trying to assassinate Bin Salman?
01:50:32.960
And it's, like, most people's theories are a mixture of they needed a distraction to, like, initiate the evacuation protocol.
01:50:40.020
So, you could, like, kill them in the evacuation is a much cleaner way to do it.
01:50:44.420
And they were trying to shoot, this is a theory, there were bullet holes in a giant fuel tank across the way at the, like, little helicopter base across the street.
01:50:52.540
And it didn't rupture because it's, like, this giant fucking steel tank.
01:50:56.840
So, like, John's theory is that they were trying to blow up those fuel tanks to make a big explosion to trigger this evacuation.
01:51:04.500
Just start shooting all those infidels at that concert.
01:51:06.960
That doesn't really track with me because all the helicopters were in the sky.
01:51:10.180
Like, I don't know, it is understandable that if you're, like, a fundamentalist, like, Muslim that's, like, here to fucking assassinate your brother, I can get how that dude would just be, like, kill the infidels and that'll fucking trigger the evacuation.
01:51:23.680
I don't really know what's there, but I know that the mainstream story is not real.
01:51:28.940
And I know that the, like, Trump family and, like, Bin Salman connections and, like, the Saudi purge that happened that year right afterwards, that seems deeply related.
01:51:38.680
And I think that explains why it's so secretive and covered up to this day because it's still affecting the geopolitical relationships of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and America to this day, I believe.
01:51:51.440
So, okay, let me try to summarize all that real quick.
01:51:55.580
So, basically, what you've been able to kind of decipher from looking at different points, speaking to different people, knowing the official narrative, whatever, Stephen Paddock, the accused shooter, basically was there to conduct a gun deal and or meet some billionaire thanks to three girls that kind of set it up.
01:52:12.160
So, he's a patsy because I remember looking at the footage.
01:52:14.820
He had been stockpiling these guns there for a couple of days.
01:52:18.020
Yeah, they were all in the hotel room for a couple of days.
01:52:20.080
So, he goes and brings all these guns or whatever over a couple of days.
01:52:33.680
It had been dead prior to the shooting even happening.
01:52:36.120
And you're saying that this all coincided with MBS being in Las Vegas at the same time and that potential.
01:52:42.220
Being in that exact hotel building several floors above in the upper floors.
01:52:47.860
And then he was evacuated somewhere during the whole craziness.
01:52:52.160
So, the goal was to get him out somehow with the mass evacuation and potentially try to get rid of him in that process.
01:52:59.380
So, this was all kind of like an elaborate scheme to assassinate MBS because of his modernization attempts of Saudi Arabia.
01:53:06.820
And probably to cover up the fact that his brother had been behind it.
01:53:11.580
Because in order to orchestrate it, like, orchestrating an assassination of someone that high up is quite difficult.
01:53:16.540
And so, you kind of need to have a controlled environment, right?
01:53:18.800
Where you know they're going to be there and you can plan it out in advance.
01:53:21.260
So, the invitation of his brother to get there is a great way to have the controlled environment.
01:53:25.560
The problem is, A, you're on American soil now.
01:53:30.980
So, you need to kind of cover up the fact that your brother invited you there.
01:53:34.140
And so, having some reason to evacuate and trying to, like, you know, you're trying to get him out and then something crazy happens.
01:53:40.240
That kind of tracks in my mind, theoretically, of a way that you could cover up your brother's involvement.
01:53:45.760
Because you don't want to have, you're like, you know, if you're a Saudi prince, you don't want to openly assassinate the crown prince.
01:53:51.240
You want to kind of like, whoopsies, he's dead, right?
01:53:55.540
And I do know that when MBS got power, it did create some controversy.
01:54:08.500
It changed their relationship with their own oil and what they're doing with their future.
01:54:14.020
So, and to be clear, like, MBS had already been chosen as the crown prince.
01:54:18.220
And that had created a lot of, like, ripples in the family.
01:54:23.480
So, I, like, the theory that I kind of subscribe to is that that choosing of MBS made the old school folk, like, the old guard, the hardcore, like, traditional Muslim people there, they were fucking pissed.
01:54:36.540
And I think it sounds like they were probably plotting something.
01:54:42.240
So, an elaborate scheme utilizing the cover of a mass shooting to assassinate basically a more secular royal family member that was going to take the reins of leadership in Saudi Arabia.
01:54:58.000
And the theory, if you kind of walk it forwards, it's that, A, Jared and Ivanka were involved in that and could have died.
01:55:07.080
And if you notice, Ivanka fucking exited politics after that.
01:55:11.280
She used to be, like, the golden child that was in front of the cameras that was totally being groomed to be Trump's successor.
01:55:20.680
Like, never again were they involved in politics after that.
01:55:23.440
And theoretically, because this was during Trump's presidency.
01:55:29.200
And so, in theory, there was probably some involvement of Trump sort of helping MBS because his fucking daughter was there, that that creates this bond of friendship between Kushner and Ivanka and MBS, but also between Trump and MBS.
01:55:42.020
And so, when you look at, like, how Trump was received when he went to Saudi Arabia, that kind of – it kind of plays that same theory out a little bit.
01:55:52.140
Because I'll tell you this, dude, and I'm assuming both the Cullen guy you mentioned and the girl, Tiffany, do they both kind of talk on this angle with the Saudi?
01:56:01.060
Cullen and Mindy both take similar angles on this.
01:56:03.880
Mindy does not go as hard on the Saudi angles, but when I asked her about it, if I remember correctly, and I hope I am, she told me that she didn't go into that in the documentary, A, because there wasn't as much, like, hard proof of it.
01:56:18.620
And so, it was, like – it's a lot of speculation.
01:56:20.420
You really have to, like, tie a lot of shit together.
01:56:21.980
The documentary was already, like, an hour and a half.
01:56:23.900
And, B, she had already put together such a solid, like, compilation of the evidence.
01:56:29.580
And it's called – it's a documentary on Rumble called Route 81, right?
01:56:37.060
Let me just look it up real quick to make sure we're getting it right because people should watch it.
01:56:41.160
And they should go and watch, yeah, Route 91, the uncovering – uncovering the cover-up of the country music concert mass shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada.
01:56:48.720
And that's a great documentary that Mindy narrated, and it's, like, you know, it's got lots of primary sources.
01:56:54.280
But then John Cullen is the source of a lot of that data and information, and he has a lot more.
01:57:00.160
He's just a lot to handle, and he's got so much fucking content about it that it's hard to dig through and actually get to the bottom of it.
01:57:07.020
But he's also a great source if you want to get real fucking deep on it and get to, like, how it all came together.
01:57:13.320
And they do both talk on the similar angles, and John is just the kind of guy that has fucking huge beef with people.
01:57:22.020
He was, like, ready to try to burn me down because, like, I talked about it on a podcast.
01:57:29.360
You know, it's like I'm not going to hate on him.
01:57:30.680
People should be happy if you fucking mention their shit, man.
01:57:34.660
I mean, John is just – he's, like, an abrasive individual, but, like, I kind of love that about him because he's fucking – he's hilarious and he's the shit.
01:57:41.280
And he's a great researcher, so I'm not going to knock him on that.
01:57:44.060
And he contributed – like, he's the reason why we know, like, 70% to 90% of that shit.
01:57:50.800
Definitely go check out John Cullen on Instagram – or on YouTube.
01:57:54.400
Still shout him out even though he fucking attacks you.
01:57:56.340
I don't know how anyone could dislike this guy, man.
01:57:59.300
Dude, it's just, like, aside from it being, like, the right moral stance to take in life to just be kind to people, it's also the right fucking business move.
01:58:07.360
Like, the only people you want to make enemies with are the people that are, like, objectively wrong about fucking everything that are probably paid by governments.
01:58:14.520
Like, Ben Shapiro, I'll fucking beef with him all day long.
01:58:17.320
But, like, most other people, it's like, dude, just be friends with people.
01:58:20.600
And Ian, that is why, my friend, I always defend you and I always support you.
01:58:24.760
Because, you know, I remember before you blew up, I remember before all this stuff, and, like, when people talk poorly on you, I'm like, bro, this is one of the fucking nicest guys I know.
01:58:36.560
So you don't have to shout-out with these guys.
01:58:37.840
But you get on these big platforms, and you always pay respects to people that gave you the information, which is something I've always admired and respected about you.
01:58:43.800
And that's why I wish you way more success, and we'll defend you to the end, my friend.
01:58:47.180
Because it pisses me off when people talk shit.
01:58:52.120
He's on Joe Rogan talking about the dancing Israelis.
01:58:55.340
People don't understand how monumental that is.
01:58:57.900
Like, talking about this stuff on a platform that big.
01:59:01.360
Like, dude, this is shit that a lot of these guys that have been, like, talking about, you know,
01:59:06.380
over-representation of them boys in certain structures, they've been at this for 10, 20, 30 years, dude.
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They haven't been able to get a fraction of the awakening that guys like you and Candace Owens and Dan Bilzerian and other voices, you know,
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But when you guys go on, like, these big platforms to talk about this shit, dude, like, that is huge.
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All that matters is the information gets put out there.
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If someone like you goes on Jerry or Dave Smith or whatever, right, and you guys talk about a clean break memo, dancing Israelis, whatever, here's what's going to happen.
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As they Google it and they research it, they're going to find me.
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Like, there's only, like, maybe 10 or 20 guys that really are on this.
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So, like, they will eventually find the source of the information.
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So, people should be excited when these topics are brought up because it's inevitable that you're going to get found to some degree.
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Like, we almost kind of have to decentralize it because if it all comes from one person, it's easy for them to ban one person, right?
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Because it used to be, like, you talk about this stuff, ADL targets you, you know, the SPLC, whatever, these sensitive organizations, Media Matters, they target you and they, bam, take you down immediately.
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But if there's, like, 10, 20, 30 prominent voices talking about the same stuff, guess what?
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Not good as it was horrible because people lost their lives.
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But I mean as in, like, as far as, like, having this discussion because it woke a lot of people up.
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Too many people came out saying the same thing.
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So the ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt had a fucking meltdown.
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When I saw all three of you guys and all of you guys mentioned this topic on those days, I was fucking hyped because I was like, it's over.
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And at this point, now what Israel is going to try to do is try to, like, almost get into an information war.
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Now, you know who met with a bunch of media personalities like a week or two ago?
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And, you know, Israel is definitely aware of the fact that, like, American media is making a shift.
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I mean, me and you are cool at Laurel Loomer, but we disagree with her on Israel.
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You don't have to, you know, agree with people politically to get along with them.
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Laura's a good guy, you know, when you talk to them.
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Because people, the thing is that people forget that these people are, like, human beings.
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They just look at their media personality and don't realize that, like, you know, people do have other, like, personality traits.
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And they're still human beings based off their political views.
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So, and some people might get mad at me for saying that shit.
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But I'm not going to hate someone for having differing political views.
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I think that, if anything, I think engaging with them is better.
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Those are the people whose minds you want to try to change.
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It's like, we're not out here to talk to the people that already agree with us.
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And, like, we're out here to talk to people that don't know or don't agree.
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Yeah, because you could sit there all day in an echo chamber and, you know, keep saying the same shit over.
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But that's exactly why these ideas couldn't get out there.
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Because they weren't willing to talk to other people or share the information or put themselves out there.
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But now, right, it's kind of good when people like Doug Murray are freaking out and saying, well, you know, have you ever been there?
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Yeah, like, you know, and he just makes himself look like an idiot.
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And Dave Smith absolutely made him look like a retard.
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And then the last thing I was going to say, bro, you did great reporting on the Daily Wire stuff, man.
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I got to ask you this because I – when I was talking about the – I did a whole, like, breakdown on, like, the fall of the Daily Wire.
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And I used quite a bit of your information to kind of go off of it.
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What do you predict is going to happen next for them, man?
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Because this used to be the number one conservative media outlet in America.
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Like, 2015, 2016, 2017, these guys were on top.
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Based on what I know about the financial situation and what was going on behind the scenes, I suspect – and this is totally just speculation.
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I'm definitely not an expert on running these, like, sizes of companies out of my depth here.
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But I suspect that the only way they're going to actually salvage the business end of it is by – and they're already doing this to a large degree – is jettisoning all these huge projects that Jeremy was trying to start.
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And, like, fucking grow and, like, all these big movies and, like, their kids division, all this shit that's just, like – like, whoa.
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Like, cut off all the fat and bring it right back down to the heart of what it is and get back to, like, actual, like, open-minded conservative reporting, which they're not going to fucking do.
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Because, like, Ben Shapiro is the heart and soul of the Daily Wire.
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And now he is, like – him and Matt Walsh are their only, like, big names.
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And so they're never going to be able to change on the Israel issue.
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And that is, unfortunately, always going to put them in that box that they're in.
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But at least they could be in that box and, like, you know, shill Zionism to Zionists.
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But the problem is that they had so much financial trouble that they got to get rid of all the fat and, like, pare their business down and, like, do it right again.
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And Jeremy left so many mistakes behind and so much sort of financial trouble behind that, like, I don't know if they can pull it off.
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And otherwise, I suspect that we will watch them slowly crash and burn over the next year or two here.
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And I think that the Petersons already have this – they already have their scent on it.
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They were sort of, like, tripping out about what was going on.
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I suspect that a couple of the people are circling around looking for deals on the way out.
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I'm kind of surprised that Matt hasn't already done that.
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And I think a lot of that has to do with the types of contracts that they're in is that they are, you know, in these complex, very legally binding contracts.
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And I don't know about those other people's contracts so much and why they're still there.
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But I suspect that – I suspect it's going to be very hard for them to hold it together for more than another year or two.
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I think, you know, getting rid of Candice was the beginning of the end.
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And then the Brett Cooper situation was the nail in the coffin.
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And interestingly enough, I think them putting Cooper on a NDA and getting rid of her so no one knew why she got rid of actually backfired on them because they assumed, oh, she must have based ideas on Israel.
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And there's still more to come out about that story too.
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And I've been watching Brett's reporting because she's – A, she's fucking killing it.
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And she gets like massive views on all of her videos.
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But also she says some interesting things every now and then where like I know stuff about what happened there that I chose not to talk about because I'm under the impression that she would rather some things don't come out right now.
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I'm like just let me exit and be like do my thing I think is kind of her vibe.
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Although I've never actually spoken to her in person at all or over text or anything.
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But I like – I kind of left some of it in the can because it's just like she doesn't need that shit in the public space and I don't think she wants it there.
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But when I'm watching her show, every now and then I catch a little thing where I'm like that's fucking funny, bro.
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There is more layers to that onion and I don't think we've heard the last of it.
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Because I know she went on Sean Ryan's thing and talked about it.
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I don't know how deep she went in because to me I was like – when she left, I was like all right.
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It's probably money and contractual stuff because she's not really based on the geopolitics stuff like talking about Israel and that stuff.
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She kind of stays more on the normie, tradcon, conservative stuff like that's what most female conservatives talk about is like more cultural shit, more like that stuff.
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They don't talk about deep dive geopolitical stuff like we do.
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My understanding is that it was not about Israel, but I do know there are things she is still not allowed to talk about.
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She would if she could and she probably will when she can.
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So the Daily Wire has made a lot of mistakes and a lot of those mistakes are still open-ended and have not had closure yet.
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They should have went out to the media and said why they parted ways with her.
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I think them allowing the NDA to kind of like work against them because, again, they got rid of Candace for the Israel stuff.
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And then when they got rid of Brett Cooper, a lot of people thought it was the same reason.
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But if they had just come out and said, yeah, we're letting go over because she wants more money or she wants more creative control or we don't want to do that or some shit like that,
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that would have killed the wind in her sails for her like kind of – because she was able to – like Candace walked so she can run if that makes sense.
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Like she kind of set this precedent that, oh, Daily Wire is pro-censorship.
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So if they had come out and said, no, it's not because of censorship.
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It's because she wants more creative control or she wants more money.
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But that NDA fucked them up in my opinion just from the outside looking in.
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Well, it was the NDA plus them trying to get ahead of the story and sort of spin it as though none of the other bad stuff was going on behind the scenes.
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And it gave Brett this huge tank of gasoline to pour onto her own channel that got everyone fucking lit.
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So she's killing it, and I'm stoked that she's killing it.
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I will – let me see if I got any questions here for you, and then I'll let you go, man, because I know you've got to dip out here.
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They asked here, did you hear 4chan was hacked?
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I'm going to pick out the best ones for Ian because he's short on time here.
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Yeah, they're saying that a bunch of the IPs were actually from Israel, which is fucking hilarious.
02:09:19.540
Ian, when you're covering 4chan, will the vibe be the same, aka stories, wise or more?
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When I'm covering for Candace, I am doing my own thing, and it'll be my show.
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Or are you guys like – tell me about – okay.
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So Candace is going on maternity leave in like a couple weeks here, and I am moving to Nashville to take over her show for like up to two months while she has a baby and raised that baby.
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And that came out of when I went on her show, her comments just blew up with people like stoked on me being there and saying, hey, can Ian please cover for you when you're on maternity leave?
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And so she texted me that day and was like, hey, do you want to do this?
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And so we talked more, and we kind of like talked about how it would work.
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And it's like we get each other, and we both report in similar ways on very similar kind of parallel things.
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And so I think we both realized and her audience all realized at once that like that will be a seamless like transition to kind of keep it going.
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I'm going to do kind of some ongoing stories and some sort of reporting on what's going on every day, probably like three shows a week.
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But it's all my – like I'll have creative control.
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And I'll obviously be like conferring with Candace and her team and like learning from them.
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So are you going to stream it like just so people know where to find you?
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Okay, so it will be on Candace's YouTube channel and yours.
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We're just going to be like on Candace's show, and we'll be plugging my YouTube channel to try to like help me grow and all that.
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I'll probably still be doing a little bit of my own stuff on the side while I'm doing it.
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But I'm just like stoked to help out, stoked to learn from them.
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But I'll be doing my own digs and also conferring with her and the team as we go.
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And it will be a couple of them I'll intentionally tie in, and a couple will be my own thing.
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See, if Daily Wire did that when they replaced Brooke Hooper, they would have been okay, right?
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So it's going to be basically – because I think – when does she go live?
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She goes live like 4 or 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time or something like that?
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It's like – yeah, I forget what it is Eastern Time.
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But yeah, it's like she does it four days a week.
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And if I'm like – if I've got that dialed, I'm going to probably bump it up to four.
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It will be, you know, pushed out just like normal.
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So let me see here if there's any, like, questions here that are good for you because I don't want to hold you here forever.
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I love how you're in, like, a spaceship and you've got, like, different screens in different places.
02:12:15.940
Obviously, you told us about the Candace Owens project, which – when does that start?
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But it will start somewhere around May, like, 12th or May 19th probably will be the week I take over.
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It will kind of depend on when Candace's baby comes.
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But people can find me on YouTube at Ian Carroll Show.
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And that's where I'm focusing all my time and attention is on these bigger YouTube digs.
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I'm on X at Ian Carroll Show as well, and that's where I fucking talk shit.
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But I'm trying to do less of that and not get so bogged down in it.
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And I have a website that's canceliancarroll.com if you want to, like, support me or get merch.
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And I am going to be putting more resources up there.
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All of those things are linked together, and all that is appreciated.
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Here's his YouTube channel right here on screen.
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It's just, like, super annoying, and they don't pay at all, basically.
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And so it's, like, I'll probably get back, because I'm doing it all myself with no production team, no fucking tech, nothing.
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So I'll probably get back on uploading everything to Rumble too after I'm done with Candice once I kind of am growing that shit.
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But right now I'm just focusing just on YouTube, just keeping it simple.
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I'm in Austin right now, and I'm going to be moving to Nashville to take over Candice here soon.
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We went way over time, but it was, like, so much fun.
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It's always a good time chatting up with you, man.
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They're just jealous that, you know, you got the limelight on you, and we're ruined for you over here, man.
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I told him right before we went on that Myron's always got the most fucking lit chat.
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I'll see you guys again soon on the other side of Candice and all that.
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You know, I'm always really happy whenever my guys are winning, man.
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Like, bro is having a meteoric rise, and that's what it's about, man.
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I was, you know, obviously I didn't want to interrupt the interview too, too much.
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And thank you guys so much for the support, by the way.
02:15:11.300
Oddcraft says, remember the person in charge at the Vegas shooting EAS, the person in charge
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in those Hawaii fires, where they were not letting people escape the fires, and the cops
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Broke, please spell check your shit before you guys write.
02:15:27.520
Mr. Jailer, what do you think about WBAN, wide body area networking in the military's ability
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to monitor our thoughts, and transhumanism are using our own bodies, neurons to process
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I don't know enough about it to speak about it in educated fashion.
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I don't want to be one of these guys that just talks out their ass.
02:15:53.600
And we're also going to hit the news as well, guys.
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But Nathaniel Works says, Marinos, watch the OKC bombing documentary and just found it
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crazy how despite building being one third completely blown apart, the building did not
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Andrew Cohen, these anti-Semitic, okay, Andrew Cohen, nobody cares what you got to say, nigga.
02:16:14.260
ObsessedHP says, Ian, when you talk to Candace next, if she wants to make her own daily wire
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with a coalition of alternate talking ads, unless you think it's better, everyone stay independent.
02:16:22.180
I think he would say everyone stay independent.
02:16:31.000
Where do I find the comprehensive information you referred to on the noticing and the cookie
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Type in The Great Awakening on my YouTube channel.
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And I also went over the fall of the daily wire.
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When people ask me if I would go back to the Marine Corps, my answer is no, I'm not dying
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Myron, you would make waves hitting the college speaking circuit?
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ObsessedHP says, okay, we got that one already.
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But it's good that you've noticed that I haven't taken a break since 2020.
02:17:28.100
Obsessed says, Myron, you think part of Epstein's job was to steal the tech Ashton Forbes talks
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Yeah, that's literally what Jeffrey Epstein's main gig was, was stealing technology.
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I don't watch streamers, so I don't know how that works.
02:17:55.520
Guys, I think we might push it to next week, bro, because, um, to next Friday, because
02:18:02.680
And we could do it today, but I think it would be way better if we had it properly planned
02:18:09.280
As you guys know, I was, you know, out of the, out of the, um, out of Florida for a few
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Uh, Pambani details, uh, judges' actions before arrest.
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So, you know, this seems to be the, what's going on.
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And I see people talking, like, here's Kyle Kalinsky right here, talking about the, um,
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We got here, Fox News, Milwaukee judge arrested, accused of helping man avoid ice.
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And as you guys can see here, look, I have a very balanced feed here.
02:19:05.740
Um, you know, I watch both right-wing and left-wing, uh, political commentary, right?
02:19:10.520
I think it's very important to watch your, um, opposition.
02:19:15.080
Uh, you know, I'll watch guys like Kyle and, and Hassan, because you, you, you need to be
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able to, like, understand what the left is saying.
02:19:22.320
I'll watch Young Turks every now and then, um, this guy, Luke Beasley.
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So, you know, I always watch the opposing views to see what's going on, CNN.
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So, I think it's very important to watch, um, adversarial media is, is my, my takeaway
02:19:37.340
So, okay, let's go ahead and look at, um, this hit from, uh, Fox News first, and then we'll
02:19:59.620
Federal prosecutors say Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan
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allegedly helped that migrant avoid arrest by ICE officers at the courthouse.
02:20:13.500
All right, good to be back with you as well, John.
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I'm Sandra Smith in New York, and this is America Reports.
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So, today's arrest of a judge marks the second such case in the last 24 hours.
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A former New Mexico judge and his wife were taken into custody yesterday.
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A former New Mexico judge and his wife were taken into custody.
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It's probably for 8USC3024 chat, um, aiding and abetting, um, illegal aliens.
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I warn motherfuckers on Twitter about this chat, FYI.
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All you guys that follow me on Twitter, you guys know, I've been saying this for months.
02:20:58.820
Once they started these mass deportations, I told people, bro, like, do not assist illegal aliens with illegally staying here.
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Like, you can literally go to jail for that shit.
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And, um, people were like, oh, fuck you, Byron, ah!
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And I was like, warning people, like, bro, it's not a good idea.
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Now we got judges getting arrested for this shit.
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I try to tell them that it is a crime to facilitate or harbor illegal aliens.
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For harboring a suspected Trendy Aragua gang member in their...
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8USC3024 chat, that's what they're going to get hit with, man.
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And I did not watch this press release before, FYI.
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All the ones in the chat, you guys know, uh, I've been saying this shit on Twitter for months.
02:21:56.860
For more on all of this, we are honored to have in the new U.S. Attorney General, Pam Bondi.
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She might as well just get a spot on Fox News and be the talking head.
02:22:13.280
A little bit from the criminal complaint here, and Judge Dugan says, despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz, Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to a non-public area of the courthouse.
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I'll play this, um, while I go ahead and get you guys the pacer document.
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Let's go ahead and get, because I want to look at the, um, okay.
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Just now, the FBI arrested Judge Zahanna Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on charge of obstruction
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after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing the immigration arrest operation last week.
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We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected the federal agents away from the subject to
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Let's see who the lead agency was, though, because we know, Chat, that the FBI always
02:23:52.480
Um, so we just got to figure out who the lead agency was on this thing.
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Um, because if you guys notice, it's HSI that's perp walking her, which is a big red
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So what I always tell you guys, always go to the official press release on the Department
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So this is how you guys figure out who the lead agency was.
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Former judge, but I said U.S. Attorney Ryan Ellison for the District of Mexico.
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U.S. Attorney's Office committed to dismantling this foreign terrorist organization by disrupting
02:24:48.100
It starts by prosecuting those who support gang members, including judges.
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According to court documents, only asking investigation, initiate the investigation into Ortega
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Lopez after receiving an anonymous tip that the individual is unlawfully present
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in the United States and in possession of firearms.
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Subsequent investigation confirmed that the defendant illegally answered on December 15,
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So it looks like HSI started the investigation.
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We are going to go ahead and read that criminal complaint and break this shit down, Chad.
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So I'm going to teach you guys how to find information on Pacer.
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So we know that this was out of which district.
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Once you're logged in, it brings you to the screen.
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And when you're here on query, right, you're going to type in the last name.
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But it's probably, it's going to be one of these three.
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Which is going to be the fiscal year and the month.
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And then, because I think, wait, why the fuck does it say two?
02:27:40.120
Because this was a, that's how you know it's a criminal complaint.
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So if it says MJ, that means it's a criminal complaint.
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She's been charged with obstruction proceeding before departments, agencies of the U.S.
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And I tell you guys all the time, the criminal complaint is super important because it gives
02:28:17.720
So, uh, Lindsay Schlomer, that's a crazy name, special agent FBI.
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Obstructing justice concealing out of the Eastern district.
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So let's go ahead and read through this real quick.
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So I, Lindsay Schlomer being first duly sworn hereby deposed and state as the follows.
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And we've written a, we've read a bunch of, um, affidavits on this channel, guys, you
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She's been a special agent since 2014, currently assigned to the Milwaukee field office.
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She's assigned to the white collar crime squad, which makes sense.
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So she does corruption crimes, civil rights and financial crimes.
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So the purpose of David, I make this support of criminal complaint, charging handed C.
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I'm aware, uh, from review of public records down on March 18, 2025, Eduardo Flores Ruiz
02:29:39.340
born in 1994, was charged in Milwaukee County, uh, circuit court case number, blah, blah, blah,
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with three counts of battery domestic and abuse, infliction of physical pain or injury.
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Agents from the Department of Homeland Security, DHS, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Enforcement
02:29:51.420
and Mover Operations, ICRO, as you guys know, those are the dudes that do the actual deportations,
02:29:56.160
identified Flores Ruiz as an individual who was not lawfully in the United States to review
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Flores, uh, alien registration file, A-file, um, and A-file guys, by the way, cause some
02:30:05.500
of you guys might be saying, what the fuck is an A-file, Myron?
02:30:07.840
Every single person that's in the United States that, um, uh, you know, naturalized or wasn't
02:30:12.620
born here has something called, um, that's trying to become a citizen.
02:30:16.080
You know, they go through the green card, uh, process or they have maybe a K-1 visa to
02:30:21.120
Uh, they got something called an alien registration number.
02:30:23.360
And that alien registration number guys is a nine digit number that basically think of
02:30:27.180
it as like a social security number for, um, aliens.
02:30:30.440
So, like my parents, for example, have alien numbers because they were not born here, they
02:30:37.620
And this is maintained, uh, by the Department of Homeland Security.
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Um, so, indicated Flores Ruiz is a native and national, uh, Mexico.
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Okay, so he had an, uh, I-860 notice, uh, an order of expedited removal by the United States
02:30:57.520
If you guys watch the show, I've talked about ER, ERs for a while.
02:31:01.780
Um, it's basically when you're encountered by Border Patrol, they can do an ER removal,
02:31:05.980
which means, uh, they're gonna get rid of you within two weeks and move you back, um,
02:31:11.420
So, because he came into Mexico through Nogales, Arizona, border entry.
02:31:16.640
There is no evidence in the A-file or DHS indices indicating that Flores Ruiz saw or obtained
02:31:26.020
He got deported by Border Patrol by an, with an ER, ER.
02:31:30.580
So, he clearly came back in again and made it through, which is why he's here now, which is common.
02:31:36.520
People get caught all the time, um, even the smuggling organizations.
02:31:40.140
Um, and I went over this in detail in my UPenn, uh, um, Penn State, uh, speech.
02:31:47.040
A lot of these smuggling organizations chat, the person will get smuggled into the United States,
02:31:51.320
um, and then if they get caught by Border Patrol or apprehended, the smuggling organization will
02:31:55.820
give them a second chance because they pay a lot of money.
02:31:58.180
So, they get caught, all right, we'll get, we'll get, we'll try you again in a couple weeks
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You know, we're going to make sure that you get the service that you need to.
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The Milwaukee ICRO office determined that, uh, through biometric fingerprint comparison,
02:32:22.800
the fingerprints of an individual charged in Milwaukee case number match those to the
02:32:27.620
Yes, when you're caught by Border Patrol, guys, they fingerprint you.
02:32:32.420
On or about April 17, 2025, an authorized immigration official found probable cause to believe
02:32:36.000
Flores Reese was removable from the United States and issued a warrant for his arrest.
02:32:40.120
The warrant provided, you are commanded to arrest and taken to custody for removal proceedings
02:32:43.100
under the Immigration Nationality Act, named alien, uh, blah, blah, blah.
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Um, completely different from a criminal warrant.
02:32:51.280
You have less authority with, um, with an immigration warrant.
02:32:54.080
So, the Milwaukee ICRO office was aware that on April 18, 2025, Flores Reese was scheduled
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The hearing was set to take place in courtroom 615, um, for Hannah C. Dugan.
02:33:07.100
Based on the above information, on April 20, April 18, 2025, members of the Milwaukee ICRO
02:33:11.200
task force traveled to Milwaukee County Courthouse with his arrest warrant in hand for the purpose
02:33:19.120
If the feds know that you're going to be at a state legal proceeding, what they'll do is
02:33:23.900
they'll come with that immigration warrant and arrest you.
02:33:26.060
Because with an immigration warrant, they can't break into your house, okay?
02:33:30.220
Um, like with a regular criminal arrest warrant.
02:33:38.280
So, um, as such, members of the Milwaukee ICRO task force developed a plan to arrest Flores
02:33:44.620
Well, you guys know why they had to do it in a public area.
02:33:48.520
Or they, they, if they went to his house, he's not, he doesn't, he's not required to,
02:33:55.560
I'm aware that two prior arrests in public areas of Milwaukee County Courthouse, Courthouse
02:33:59.220
Complex individuals were not lawfully present in the United States, had received public
02:34:02.320
Both incidents involved individuals who had not been charged with criminal offenses but
02:34:05.580
were not in custody and appearing for scheduled hearings in their criminal cases.
02:34:09.540
So, basically, this guy got arrested by the state for some criminal shit.
02:34:14.040
So, arrival of arrest teams at the Milwaukee County Courthouse and notification of intended
02:34:19.520
So, six members of ICE plan to take part in the arrest of Flores Ruiz.
02:34:23.560
This included ICRO, deportation officer, customs award protection officer, uh, officer A.
02:34:29.660
So, a CBP guy, special agents A and B, and drug enforcement.
02:34:41.440
Guaranteed, this guy probably, yeah, because you know what?
02:34:45.720
They just were generally dressed in plain clothes and intended to effectuate the arrest in,
02:34:51.380
At approximately 8 a.m. on April 18th, uh, the deportation officer and CBP officer arrived
02:34:55.400
at the Milwaukee Courthouse, uh, presented identification to a security guard and explained
02:34:59.820
Deportation Officer A and CBP officer A, uh, were asked to show not only their credentials,
02:35:06.080
The security guard stated that, uh, she needed to speak with a supervisor or a CIF sergeant
02:35:09.680
when Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office contacted and spoke to deportation officer A.
02:35:13.120
They discussed the details of the planned arrest, including in which courtroom Flores Ruiz
02:35:17.040
The sergeant asked that any arrest wait until after the completion of the scheduled hearing
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As this was standard practice, deportation officer A and CBP officer A agreed, and they were
02:35:25.580
allowed to proceed unescorted to the public hallway outside of, uh, courtroom 615.
02:35:29.280
Okay, so they said, cool, you can arrest them, just, like, let them do his court, uh, let
02:35:35.940
So the other members of the arrest team were already present in the sixth floor public hallway
02:35:39.020
when deportation officer A and CBP officer A arrived.
02:35:41.760
Before deportation officer A and CBP officer A arrived, uh, she doesn't want to use their
02:35:47.760
But they are basically a CBP officer and, uh, ICE deportation officer.
02:35:52.600
Once they arrived outside of courtroom, uh, 615, FBI agents A and B advised the courtroom deputy
02:35:57.200
for courtroom 615 that law enforcement was there to arrest Flores.
02:36:00.180
FBI agent A displayed his credentials to the courtroom deputy and informed him that they
02:36:03.600
were there to arrest, to assess ICE in arresting Flores.
02:36:06.760
Uh, they agreed that the arrest would take place at the floor as court appearance agents
02:36:11.460
Case agents have interviewed the courtroom deputy president of 615 on, uh, April 18th
02:36:16.420
The courtroom deputy had opened the doors to the courtroom at approximately 8.15 a.m.
02:36:19.240
and reported that individuals began checking, uh, in for the list of matters scheduled for
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The courtroom deputy had received a list of individuals appearing that day and the courtroom
02:36:28.340
deputy checked in the fence while the attorneys, uh, received with the clerk.
02:36:32.760
So when it comes to the local court system, right, the judge is sitting there and, you know,
02:36:40.980
She's there, you know, to see if people get released.
02:36:45.820
So there's a whole list of different cases that are going to be heard on that day.
02:36:49.920
So in this case, um, this illegal alien Flores Reese was supposed to be seen by the judge
02:36:55.080
and then ICE and FBI and DEA and all these other federal agencies were basically there
02:36:59.200
to arrest him, um, once he finished his court hearing.
02:37:02.500
And they were coordinating with the sheriff's office and the local cops that are there.
02:37:06.440
Hey, look, just so you know, we're here to arrest this guy.
02:37:10.140
Once he's done with his court hearing, we're going to grab him.
02:37:13.100
Just let him do his court hearing so you don't cause a commotion.
02:37:20.200
The courtroom deputy explained that a person in 815 FBI agents advised they were working
02:37:24.480
The courtroom deputy asked the agents to wait outside and arrest Flores after hearing
02:37:29.640
The courtroom deputy told the case agents that after an ICE arrested courthouse earlier
02:37:33.080
that month, a shift sergeant had asked Bayless to alert a supervisor at the Milwaukee
02:37:36.520
County Sheriff's Office if ICE agents were in the building.
02:37:39.740
Accordingly, the courtroom deputy filed, uh, notified a shift sergeant.
02:37:45.520
So arrestee members reported that while waiting outside of the courtroom, a woman approached
02:37:51.440
The agent B, who was inconspicuously seated away from the group, was not photographed.
02:37:55.220
The individual taking photographs of the agents has been identified by multiple witnesses
02:37:59.060
as an attorney employed by the state of Wisconsin Public Defender's Office.
02:38:02.860
Team members observe Flores Reese appear, uh, sorry, arrive on the sixth floor of the courthouse
02:38:12.900
So Judge Dugan learns of ICE's presence and confronts members of the arrest team.
02:38:18.020
So witnesses have described Judge Dugan's response to learning of ICE's presence.
02:38:21.040
For example, the courtroom deputy indicated that when Flores Reese arrived, Judge Dugan
02:38:25.400
already was on the bench in conducting proceedings unrelated to Flores Reese.
02:38:29.420
Like I told you guys before, she's there for everybody.
02:38:32.920
The courtroom deputy observed attorney A, the individual who photographed the agents,
02:38:36.680
uh, enter and approach Judge Dugan, uh, Dugan's clerk.
02:38:40.520
Attorney A stated that there appeared to be ICE agents in the hallway.
02:38:44.120
Attorney A told the clerk where the agents were seated and what they were wearing.
02:38:51.400
The courtroom deputy, uh, reported that the clerk then got up and talked with Judge Dugan.
02:38:55.660
Dugan became visibly angry, commented that the situation was absurd, left the bench, and
02:39:01.300
Uh, chambers, guys, just so you guys are wondering.
02:39:03.360
So, in every courtroom, behind the courtroom, there's, um, what's called the judge's chambers.
02:39:16.960
So, um, when you see them come out that little door, when, before they get on the bench,
02:39:24.340
It's a secure area where they could do their work.
02:39:27.880
Another individual, Attorney B, was working as a assistant district attorney in Judge Dugan's
02:39:34.000
According to Attorney B, there were approximately eight criminal cases, including Flores Ruiz's
02:39:37.140
cases, scheduled for pretrial hearings that morning.
02:39:40.320
So, Attorney B was aware that the victims from Flores Ruiz's criminal case were in the courtroom.
02:39:44.880
While Attorney B was busy preparing for the morning's docket, Attorney B heard someone
02:39:51.940
Shortly thereafter, Attorney B, uh, heard Judge Dugan say she was going to call the chief
02:39:57.280
Members of the arrest team reported the following events after Judge Dugan learned of their presence
02:40:01.940
Judge Dugan and Judge A, who were both wearing judicial robes, approached members of the arrest
02:40:08.660
Judge A's courtroom, uh, is located adjacent to Judge Dugan's courtroom.
02:40:14.080
Witnesses uniformly reported that Judge Dugan was visibly upset and had confrontational
02:40:19.400
Judge Dugan addressed Deportation Officer A and asked if Deportation Officer A was present
02:40:24.060
When the officer responded no, Judge Dugan stated the Deportation Officer would need to
02:40:29.100
The Deportation Officer stated that Deportation Officer was there to effectuate an arrest.
02:40:33.040
Dugan asked if Deportation Officer had a judicial warrant.
02:40:35.320
And Deportation Officer said, uh, A, responded, no, I have an administrative warrant.
02:40:42.440
Judge Dugan stated that Deportation Officer A needed a judicial warrant.
02:40:46.400
Uh, Deportation Officer A told Judge Dugan that Deportation Officer A was in public space
02:40:51.520
Judge Dugan asked to see the administrative warrant and the Deportation Officer offered
02:40:55.780
Dugan then demanded that Deportation Officer A speak with the chief judge.
02:40:59.280
Judge Dugan then had a similar interaction with FBI Agent B and, uh, CBU officer.
02:41:03.040
After finding out they were, uh, not present for a court appearance and that they were
02:41:07.980
with ICE, Judge Dugan ordered them to report to the judge, uh, chief judge's office.
02:41:14.280
Judge A then escorted members of the IRS team away from courtroom 615 down the hall
02:41:17.900
and through a set of double doors towards the reception area for the judge's office.
02:41:22.160
DA Agent B, who was not recognized by Judge Dugan and Judge A, remember, guys, they tried
02:41:25.220
to take a picture of him, but he, they didn't know, um, judge, uh, who was not recognized
02:41:32.140
by Judge Dugan and Judge A as being part of the arrest team remained outside of courtroom
02:41:36.720
So the DEA agent, they don't know that he's an agent, okay?
02:41:40.980
A lot of DEA agents are pretty good undercovers.
02:41:45.440
Uh, the courtroom deputy, because FBI agents, they're, it's easy to tell, bro.
02:41:48.420
They're clean cut, they're white, like, you know what I mean?
02:41:52.800
The courtroom deputy, uh, reported observing a portion of the above described events.
02:41:56.800
According to courtroom deputy, uh, Judge Dugan was advised ICE presidents, blah, blah, blah.
02:42:02.720
The agent who remained in the hallway and had not been recognized reported that Judge Dugan
02:42:07.360
walked around the hallway and appeared to be looking for additional agents before she
02:42:11.700
Once inside the office of the chief judge, deportation officer, H, so Judge A, his credentials
02:42:17.220
Judge A asked the chief judge's clerk to make a copy of the warrant
02:42:20.460
and asked whether the chief judge was available.
02:42:22.500
The clerk advised that the chief judge was not in the building and, uh, but later advised
02:42:27.660
At that point, Judge A left and deportation officer A went inside a more private area of
02:42:31.700
the judge's, uh, office to speak with him on the phone.
02:42:34.600
During their conversation, the chief judge stated he was working on a policy which would
02:42:37.480
dictate location within the courthouse where ICE could safely conduct enforcement actions.
02:42:42.180
The chief judge emphasized that such actions should not take place in courtrooms or other
02:42:47.800
Um, bro, you can't tell them when they're going to make the arrests.
02:42:50.220
Like, the fact that they're even complying with these judges and being nice is a courtesy.
02:42:54.840
They could rip his ass just while he's doing his courtroom hearing.
02:42:57.700
Like, bro, what the fuck are these judges talking about?
02:43:00.960
Okay, so I could already tell this is going to be a pissy match.
02:43:03.140
When the chief judge expressed interest in talking to ICRO management about this policy,
02:43:06.260
the DO provided him contact information for ICRO's assistant field office director.
02:43:11.880
Okay, so while the deportation officer is speaking with the chief judge, DEA agent, uh, and the
02:43:16.700
FBI guys waited in the vestibule area outside of the judge's office, blah, blah, blah, just
02:43:23.100
So Judge Dugan escorts Flores through a jury door to avoid his arrest.
02:43:29.860
So multiple witnesses have described their observations after Judge Dugan returned to
02:43:33.640
her courtroom after directing members of the arrest team to the chief judge's office.
02:43:36.740
For example, the courtroom deputy called, uh, recalled that upon the courtroom deputies
02:43:55.680
I'm going to just give you guys a summary instead of, sometimes these affidavits, they're
02:44:11.980
He makes it outside of the courthouse while the other guys are being distracted.
02:44:17.140
Um, and from different vantage points, both agents observed Flores Ruiz and his counsel
02:44:23.520
walked briskly towards the elevator bank on the south end of the sixth floor.
02:44:26.540
I'm familiar with the layout of the sixth floor of the courthouse and know that the
02:44:29.280
south elevators are not closet elevators, the close elevators.
02:44:34.680
Remember, they didn't know he was an agent and his attorney towards the south elevator
02:44:37.800
bank at approximately 8.50 AM, DEA agent alerted other members of the arrest team.
02:44:40.960
Um, that he was in the elevator with Flores Ruiz while on the elevator, Flores Ruiz and
02:44:44.920
his attorney spoke to each other in Spanish, which DEA agent A did not understand.
02:44:56.060
Um, so after he notified the team, uh, the agents ran outside, uh, towards the front of
02:45:05.360
the courthouse, FBI agent, B and D agent A approached Flores Ruiz, identified themselves
02:45:08.520
as law enforcement, uh, Ruiz turned around and sprinted down the street.
02:45:13.100
They just pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse and ultimately apprehended
02:45:16.880
him near the intersection of W's, uh, West State Street on the 10th street.
02:45:20.000
Flores Ruiz was handcuffed and detained around 9.05 AM.
02:45:22.040
It rocks between 22 minutes after arresting first spot of Flores Ruiz, um, FBI agent blah,
02:45:26.180
blah, blah, blah, communicated to the surveillance that they had, they arrested him.
02:45:29.840
And then the deportation officer, CPC officer were notified that Flores was in custody while
02:45:33.420
they were still inside the courthouse speaking with the chief judge on the phone.
02:45:37.360
So long story short, guys, this is what happened.
02:45:44.880
They're making these phone calls, dealing with all this bureaucracy bullshit.
02:45:47.920
Meanwhile, she takes the illegal alien through another door.
02:45:53.240
Luckily, the DEA agent that they didn't identify, he's still undercover.
02:45:59.480
He notifies the other guys, yo, he's out, he's out, he's out, that when he sees other
02:46:03.740
agents coming, then they chase him down and they arrest him.
02:46:12.420
Okay, now that we know the story, let's go into the press release chat.
02:46:15.120
Guys, give me ones in the chat that don't make sense.
02:46:16.760
Give me ones in the chat, that don't make sense.
02:46:47.040
Dre Day Solo says, you should show up at Charlie Kirk's College to prove me wrong and debate
02:46:50.680
I only think he's got a few more schools left, guys.
02:46:57.480
Is there still going to be a credit card episode?
02:47:01.160
I'm 22, three years until cybersecurity degree.
02:47:04.700
Should I pause courting until I'm financially independent to avoid burning my future husband
02:47:18.660
So out of the courtroom, through the jury door, which leads to a non-public area of
02:47:26.620
The agents pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse and ultimately apprehended
02:47:31.900
According to this complaint, Judge Diggins was visibly angry.
02:47:35.600
The fact that they had to chase him and he was outside of the courtroom, at that point,
02:47:38.820
who knows if you grab the gun or whatever, it wasn't sanitized.
02:47:41.280
The reason why agents like to arrest these guys in the courtroom or in the courthouse is because
02:47:45.780
they have to go through security, so they know that they don't have any weapons.
02:47:48.660
That's huge and why it's so advantageous to arrest these guys in government buildings.
02:47:53.280
Angry that ICE was there to arrest Flores Ruiz, even tried to kick the deportation agents
02:47:59.840
Yeah, and to set the stage for you and Sandra, this was truly horrific.
02:48:04.960
This guy was in court being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery.
02:48:11.140
He had beat up two people, a guy and a girl, beat the guy, hit the guy 30 times, knocked him
02:48:17.180
to the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both had to go to the hospital.
02:48:21.740
And, John, you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.
02:48:26.400
They were sitting in the courtroom with the state prosecutor.
02:48:30.280
The judge learns that ICE was outside to get the guy because he had been deported in 2013,
02:48:35.680
came back in our country, commits these crimes, charged with committing these crimes.
02:48:42.500
She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
02:48:46.020
She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk to the chief judge.
02:48:53.820
Now surprised that she was fucking butthurt that they were there.
02:48:59.260
Takes the defendant and the defense attorney back in her chambers,
02:49:03.360
takes them out of private exit and tells them to leave.
02:49:07.500
Well, a state prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
02:49:13.220
You know, Madam Attorney General, great to have you here.
02:49:17.840
So we remember these words of Tom Homan, the border czar.
02:49:21.260
This was March 17th and his message on these judges who apparently are trying to get in the
02:49:37.020
So when you see these judges trying to obstruct your efforts to make this country safer,
02:49:45.240
We are going to prosecute you and we are prosecuting you.
02:49:51.900
We could not believe actually that a judge really did that.
02:50:09.340
She impeded their ability to pick up a violent fucking illegal alien in her courtroom.
02:50:17.800
You cannot obstruct a criminal case and really, shame on her.
02:50:23.320
It was a domestic violence case of all cases, and she's protecting a criminal defendant over victims of crime.
02:50:29.700
In fact, she just had an initial appearance in court.
02:50:31.820
There's also this other case coming out of New Mexico.
02:50:34.700
Judge Joel Cano and his wife were arrested for harboring a TDA member.
02:50:41.920
When they arrested that male judge, that might be the HSI case.
02:50:44.860
So this one out of Wisconsin is FBI, and then we got this one out of—okay, now it makes sense.
02:51:06.840
We're going to go PACER, District of New Mexico.
02:52:24.000
Two different judges basically holding on or supporting illegal aliens.
02:52:32.120
Did they not file the criminal complaint yet, or what?
02:52:38.000
Their home, the alleged TDA member had been picked up by law enforcement, and now he and
02:52:51.460
I believe, as the attorney general, that the person that they were having living at their home...
02:53:00.460
Yeah, that's the judge up on the screen now who got arrested.
02:53:05.380
He was a known, is a known TDA member, known TDA member.
02:53:10.160
So he comes through Eagle Pass January, December...
02:53:13.960
And guys, since they label Truendere Aguas as a terrorist organization,
02:53:17.960
it gives them way more latitude to go after these guys far more aggressively.
02:53:21.000
That's why they're arresting these judges and doing all this shit and going after them so hard.
02:53:25.060
Because when you're labeled a terrorist organization,
02:53:27.480
an enormous amount of resources are made available to the feds to be able to cook.
02:53:45.520
They get a tip that he is living with a judge and the judge's wife.
02:53:53.020
So they have him arrested first on immigration charges.
02:53:58.180
A judge, Damien Martinez, releases him saying that judge Cano has a good BS meter
02:54:11.100
And that's why they probably wanted to go after him.
02:55:08.820
So I got to give myself a pat on the back for that one.
02:55:31.140
I further stay at my Homeland Security Investigation Special Agent.
02:55:41.020
Lopez, that's alleged he's an illegal alien from Venezuela.
02:56:31.280
Let's see if he got charged with the same shit.
02:56:41.080
So both of them got charged with the same stuff.
02:56:43.060
So they did a search warrant February 20, 2025.
02:56:51.700
Agents permitted Ortega to make a phone call before being transported.
02:57:00.400
Agents included a search warrant at the residence of Jose and Nancy Cano looking for what was believed to be Ortega's cell phone that was not recovered on February 20, 2025.
02:57:06.020
And for Nancy Cano's cell phone, after being advised of his murder rights, Jose agreed to speak to agents.
02:57:13.420
So during an interview, he admitted, among other things, he was destroyed the cell phone and the bullying to Ortega by smashing it with a hammer.
02:57:26.740
I mean, when you look at the associations with this violent Venezuelan gang, Trende Aragua, and this person that they harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing, we were told, tattoos.
02:57:41.460
There was evidence through voice messages and text messages of his association to TDA.
02:57:47.300
So what charges will Cano and his wife face, if any?
02:57:59.600
I'm going to pretty much go until we do after hours.
02:58:15.320
Judge Cano, soon to be former Judge Cano, got he got his charges were just unsealed.
02:58:23.120
He literally talked to agents without a lawyer.
02:58:30.860
He took one of the TDA members' cell phones himself, took it, beat it with a hammer, destroyed
02:58:45.500
He says to a city dumpster to dispose of it to protect him.
02:58:49.840
The wife also is charged with destroying evidence.
02:58:53.120
Look, there's a picture of him right there with him cooked.
02:58:54.940
Sandra, not only that, this TDA member, and he had on a necklace that said kill, something
02:59:03.620
He also had on his cell phone pictures of two decapitated victims.
02:59:15.620
Decapitated gruesome photos, and he was sending them out, and whoever he was sending them to
02:59:20.480
was sending them back, saying, hey, you need to be careful.
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Not only that, the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that belong to their daughter.
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In the criminal report affidavit, he goes to a shooting range with these assault rifles,
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with a suppressor, with other known TDA members, and they're shooting.
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This is the last person that we want in our country, nor will we ever tolerate a judge
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Let me, if I could, Madam Attorney General, come back to the Wisconsin case.
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and Judge Hannah Dugan, because in allegedly letting the perpetrator and the attorney out
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through a non-public exit, and allowed them to get out in front of the building,
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we had a situation where we've seen, that I know Tom Homan was complaining about in Colorado,
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where there would be no transfer of a defendant from a jail to ICE custody on a detainer request
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in a way that was orderly and protected public safety.
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They would dump them off in a parking lot, and then ICE would have to chase them around
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with the DEA or whatever, or FBI, and pick them up.
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The agents, and this was a DEA agent, an FBI agent, pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire
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length of the courthouse, ultimately apprehended him near the intersection of West State Street
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So, the judge apparently has created a situation here where you have a public foot chase,
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and we all know that, well, sometimes they can be, they can come off without incident,
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they can also turn into very dangerous situations.
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She put the lives of our law enforcement officers at risk.
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A street chase, which is absurd that that had to happen.
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And I guarantee you guys, if, if, uh, the big reason why they went after her is because
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If they didn't have to do the foot chase, um, she might not have got arrested.
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But since they had to do the foot chase, and he was able to basically get out the courtroom,
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um, you know, without being, like, detected, um, because the whole purpose of arresting him
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in the government building, guys, was specifically so that, um, he would be unarmed, and he,
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So, uh, for, uh, her to facilitate him not just getting out of the building,
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but then him running after the fact, and they had to chase him down,
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that is the big problem here that, uh, created a lot of the issues.
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And, but yes, she put a lot of people at danger, in danger.
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Judge Kano is charged with, they were allegedly giving him assault rifles, AK-47s, AR-15s,
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with a suppressor, a known TDA member, letting him go to a shooting range
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Yeah, so when, when the American public hears this, and they think
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these were once upstanding people in their communities, and, and, and, and their
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professions, and they put it all on the line for this.
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Um, Tal, Talisman says, I'm highly satisfied seeing this shit happen, Myron.
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I know we didn't get any Epstein action from Pam, but this shit is a big win.
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Yeah, this is a big win that they're going after these stupid-ass judges.
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And I'd be pissed off, too, and want to charge the judge because, yeah,
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Like, who knows, um, you know, if he was able to, you know,
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what he would have tried to do, um, once he got out there,
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if he would have tried to get a gun or whatever.
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It put the agents at huge risk, um, by her doing that.
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So, or, well, they charged her with a criminal complaint,
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So any of these woke-ass judges that want to sit there and, um,
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Would have, like, what inspired them to, to carry out...
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like, let's say, let's go into a dream world, right?
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I got a, I got a final order of deportation, right?
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I got an administrative warrant, and I know he's in the building.
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Now, obviously, they were being polite and nice and diplomatic by saying,
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all right, look, we'll grab him after he does his hearing.
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oh, I'm going to have you go talk to this other judge and all this other shit,
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I would be like, ma'am, that's, we're not doing that.
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Um, just so you know, uh, this is a courtesy that we are even, like,
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waiting until he finishes his hearing, but I can go grab him right now, okay?
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I'm going to wait here until he comes out, and I'm going to take him, okay?
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Otherwise, I'm going to go in there and take him.
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So, the fact that he's even in this courtroom because he committed a crime
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So, the DO, the deportation officer, was being a bitch.
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He let this judge bully him, fucking distracted his ass,
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and he was just sitting there, and they didn't know he was an agent,
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and the judge took advantage, and then, bam, next thing you know,
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I am doing you a courtesy by even letting you finish your stupid-ass hearing.
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So, yeah, this is gonna send a good message to all these judges.
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I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law,
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If you are harboring a fugitive, we don't care who you are.
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we will come after you and we will prosecute you.
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Very significant development that you're arresting judges now.
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Now, it could be that the judges have engaged in terribly bad behavior
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The government that is expanding the powers of the...
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Someone in the chest said a judge with bad judgment?
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when you have victims sitting in a courtroom of domestic violence
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like, because he committed another crime of violence.
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And it is a crime in the United States of America.
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Madam Attorney General, great to see you in the studio with us.
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I'm Andrew Kraft, Live Now, look there, over Milwaukee, Wisconsin, charges of obstruction.
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After evidence, thankfully, our agents chased down the perp on foot, and he's been in custody since.
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But the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public.
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Now, what almost became the story was the fact that the first iteration of this post was swiftly deleted.
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And then this was republished, reposted on social media.
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This is the judge in question, though, that has been arrested.
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Now, she appeared briefly today in federal court in Milwaukee before being released from custody.
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Her attorney said this to the Associated Press, quote,
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Judge Dugan wholeheartedly regrets and protests her arrest.
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It was not made in the interest of public safety, her attorney says.
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He declined to comment to an AP reporter following her court appearance, though.
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Now, according to the Associated Press, a person answering the phone Friday at Dugan's office said he could not comment.
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The AP also left an email and voicemail this morning seeking comment from the Milwaukee County Court's chief judge, Carl Asher.
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Yeah, Milwaukee is super woke, Chad, just so you guys know.
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Now, the DOJ in January ordered prosecutors to investigate for potential criminal charges against state and local officials
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who obstruct or impede federal functions as potential avenues for prosecution.
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I've been telling you guys that this has been a problem for a long time with these sanctuary fucking cities.
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Like, they think that they can, like, just sit there and, like, impede feds from doing their job,
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especially when it comes to, like, removing illegal aliens.
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Like, but these blue cities literally, like, they don't give a fuck.
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So this is good that this sends a message out that if you dickheads are going to go ahead
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and impede the feds from removing illegal aliens, you're going to go to jail, too.
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Heresy offense as well as a law prohibiting the harboring of people in the country illegally.
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So, when I say this is somewhat unprecedented, it is.
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You have a state judge there arrested, accused of obstructing federal agents there
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Well, so many people right now are commenting, including the mayor of Milwaukee, Cavalier Johnson.
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He held a press conference on this in these brief remarks.
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...happened there, but I'm saying that the way that they went about this
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in this ham-handed, haphazard way that this administration has been doing since day one,
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Okay, this is a Milwaukee mayor, uh, talking about the arrest of the Wisconsin judge.
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...people away, or has the potential to drive people away from participating in court proceedings,
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I want people to hold folks accountable in our judicial system,
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but the actions of this administration are driving people away from doing that,
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and that's not good for public safety in Milwaukee.
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I'm talking specifically about the Trump administration's, uh, actions as it relates to this case
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and what they've been doing with immigration overall since, uh, he's been president again.
03:09:35.660
They're scaring people in immigrant communities all across the United States,
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and when folks don't participate in our judicial system, bad things happen.
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Our community becomes less safe, and that's the message that I'm trying to get across.
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Do you believe this sets a dangerous precedent moving forward to future judges
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Uh, quite possibly so, but I hope that the answer is no.
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I mean, if a judge is being arrested in a courthouse,
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just imagine the chilling effect that it sends to other folks
03:09:56.540
who would otherwise participate in judicial proceedings in our courthouse,
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and not just in the Milwaukee County courthouse,
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but courthouses across the state of Wisconsin and courthouses across the United States.
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and that's not a good thing for public safety in Milwaukee or anywhere across our country.
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Uh, I don't know if this is happening anywhere else.
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and I'm concerned about what happens on public, around public safety on the ground in this city,
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um, and that's why I'm bringing attention to this right now.
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Has a judge ever been arrested in the city of Milwaukee inside the courthouse before?
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Mayor, do you know the judge personally or professionally?
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I-I've had the opportunity to see a judge digging around over the years.
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That's the same year that I was initially elected, uh, as well.
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So we've seen each other at a number of community events, uh, out, uh, in Milwaukee
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over the course of the last nearly, uh, nearly 10 years, nearly a decade.
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The other thing we're going to cover, guys, is, uh, some bitch was complaining about me
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We got another student, yet again, makes a video crying about me being at, uh, USC.
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No, no, I have not been in contact with, uh, any victims.
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Uh, my concern, uh, again, here is strictly about the tactics used, uh, as it relates
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to this judge and what ICE has done, uh, as it relates to other individuals who've been,
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It sends a chilling effect to other people who will participate in our judicial process
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And when folks do not step up, when folks do not participate in the judicial process,
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The actions of the Trump administration are making our community less safe.
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That's not a good thing for public safety in Milwaukee, and that's not something that
03:11:38.720
Have you been in touch with the chief judge at the courthouse?
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Uh, no, I haven't had the chance to be in touch, uh, with, uh, uh, chief judge, uh, Ashley.
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I know, uh, that he, uh, obviously is aware of the situation.
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Uh, a number of people watching are watching this as well.
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I know that Representative, uh, Moore, uh, is too.
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Um, and all of us are going to continue to pay attention to this.
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I'm concerned about the public safety impacts that it has in the city of Milwaukee.
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I don't want it to send, I don't want it to send a chilling effect to people
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who need to participate in their judicial process here in Milwaukee.
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How do you anticipate your office teaching to be involved in this issue?
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We'll, we'll continue to monitor the situation and raise our voice to what is happening,
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what's going on here, and sending a clear signal to President Trump and his administration
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that their actions are causing public safety to be harmed in Milwaukee.
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If his administration, you know, wants to talk about, you know, public safety, um, that's
03:12:23.780
But these actions right now run completely counterclockwise to what he's trying to do, what he thinks he's
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This isn't going to make our community safer at all.
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This is going to encourage people not to participate in our judicial process, which makes our city
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and our communities all across this country less safe.
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So let's go ahead and try to track down an illegal alien, go to his house where the agents are
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way less safe, trying to arrest them there with an immigration warrant that won't allow
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See, there's a problem when you've got politicians trying to tell you how to do things tactically.
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I'm not going to go with an immigration warrant to a guy's fucking house.
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Um, that's a member of a gang that we know is violent, right?
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Um, and try to go there where he has the advantage.
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Like, if I know he has a court date, I'm going to show up to the fucking court date and pick
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his ass up there because I know it's sanitized.
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I know he'll have gone through security and we're going to grab him there.
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Um, the ICE guys should have been way more assertive and just taking his dumb ass as
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Like, as soon as the judge came out and said, oh yeah, you guys got to go talk to this other
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I would have literally looked at him and said, I'm taking him now.
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Niggas in front of me, I got a warrant for his arrest.
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I'm grabbing his ass because I know that this is where I have the advantage.
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The mayor of Milwaukee there, Cavalier Johnson, with his thoughts, his reaction to the arrest
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In the meantime, we're hearing a reaction from Wisconsin lawmakers, including Democratic Senator
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The president's administration arresting a sitting judge is a greatly serious and drastic move.
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And it threatens to breach those various separations.
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I see Tim Pool's live right now talking about this shit, too, which, by the way, guys, I
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Also, I'm going to be on with Viva Frey on Monday, 4 p.m.
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We're going to be talking about a bunch of stuff.
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I think he's a Canadian attorney, if I'm not mistaken.
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Wednesday, I will be over up in the gray state of West Virginia with your boy, Tim Pool.
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You know, I think I'm going to do a poll here on it.
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But, I'm the most diversified streamer on this bitch.
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We're going to go live on Fresh and Fit at around 10-15, 10-30.
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We're going to go live on Fresh and Fit, by the way.
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We'll be on the lookout for more and more reaction.
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Saying, I can confirm that our FBI agents just arrested Hannah Dugan,
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for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid an arrest by ICE.
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Outside the courthouse, live right now, there in Milwaukee,
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We'll get out to that in just a moment, though.
03:17:23.720
Attorney General Bondi appeared today on America's Newsroom,
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and here were her first responses and answers posed to her on this story.
03:17:32.120
Admiral Pam Bondi, it's good to talk to you, Pam.
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So, let me read a little bit from the criminal complaint here.
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Despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz,
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Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel
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which leads to a non-public area of the courthouse.
03:17:48.960
The agents pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse
03:17:54.060
Judge Dugan was visibly angry that ICE was there to arrest Flores Ruiz,
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even tried to kick the deportation agents out of the courthouse.
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This guy was in court being prosecuted by a state prosecutor
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beat up a woman so badly they both had to go to the hospital.
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And, John, you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.
03:18:21.480
They were sitting in the courtroom with the state prosecutor.
03:18:24.540
The judge learns that ICE was outside to get the guy
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came back in our country, commits these crimes,
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Questioning Attorney General Pam Bondi just this morning
03:18:34.820
on America's Newsroom there on the Fox News channel.
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Let's go out live, though, outside Hannah Dugan's own courthouse
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in Milwaukee, her supporters pleading on her behalf.
03:18:50.460
And we will not let fear take the bench or the streets.
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We believe in courthouses that serve the public,
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...to a courtroom and feel safe, heard, and seen.
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Um, yeah, but the dude was here illegally, bro,
03:19:34.640
To the public servants trying to do the right thing,
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Because it's grounded in people who have it most.
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You have like one-tenth of my responsibilities.
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fuck misogyny means come on man come on bro she literally proved why women deserve less you damn
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right she definitely did prove why women deserve less with that stupid ass monologue and here's the
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crazy part she thinks that she ate bro she probably got done doing that video like oh my god this is
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