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00:21:13.740 all right and we are live what's up guys welcome to the stream welcome to the stream

00:21:23.680 uh all right let's kind of just get right into this guys i'm going to jump into a twitter space

00:21:29.060 right now they're talking about the conflict uh with sulaiman and them let's jump in see what's

00:21:34.520 going on i'm gonna adjust it mike because you guys know how it goes as soon as i come into

00:21:37.460 these twitter spaces for israel first i think they're optimizing look you got you got the the

00:21:44.260 zio part of finance the zio part of technology and the zio part of military and many of those are

00:21:49.840 converging because finance um you know to a good degree to a certain degree as long as pentagon

00:21:57.140 keeps sending the money over to military it's got like a nationalistic kind of american part to it

00:22:04.640 where all it wants to do is profit from wars and you know zionism has factions and all of those

00:22:11.720 the real battle right now is weakening the dollar versus strengthening the dollar the military want

00:22:17.380 to strengthen the dollar through war and financial want to weaken the dollar to transnational capital

00:22:22.720 and multi-polarity and so that creates an internal conflict um with um zionist factions and obviously

00:22:30.820 the the radical evangelical christian zionists they're more aligned with military which their

00:22:36.540 wet dream is that you get to continue to destabilize the middle east rather than regional stability

00:22:41.860 um and therefore the greater israel project is in their financial interest um in order to to push

00:22:48.780 that so that you can just really focus on the previous world order but the previous world order

00:22:53.920 doesn't exist because uh china has a say in the equation um and and these powers you know need

00:23:00.640 to negotiate with china and unless you believe that zionists control china as well uh then you have to 0.54

00:23:06.740 realize that they have a they have a different faction of power that they need to negotiate with

00:23:11.500 and america does not have the hedge in one status anymore so even if america is full-blown zionist

00:23:18.440 um it still needs to negotiate because there's new powers and china doesn't want israel destabilizing

00:23:25.860 the region for american um profits the only issue is most major powers do go down swinging they don't

00:23:34.220 just kind of step aside thanks budget uh i just want to welcome um marion onto the stage marion thanks

00:23:40.300 for joining us we got ryan and sam on the stage as well how are you doing by the way we're live on

00:23:44.180 youtube as well uh how are things good man can you guys uh hear me yeah okay hold on

00:23:51.700 i'm just gonna adjust the audio real quick for mine because i don't know my audience

00:23:54.260 oh i'm okay yeah okay let me turn my volume up on my side a bit as well okay um no man if you guys

00:24:02.320 could just and i apologize because i'm sure you guys literally were just talking about this earlier

00:24:05.420 as i came in uh could we just do a quick little um i guess like a bird's eye view of what's going on

00:24:10.860 obviously there's a bunch of assets mobilized uh you know right in iran's uh backyard you know

00:24:16.920 destroyers aircraft carriers etc it's an enormous amount of resources being put in place from what

00:24:22.120 i understand i've i've looked this up it costs the u.s about 10 million dollars a day almost

00:24:25.600 to just be out there in the first place without launching anything um what kind of where are we

00:24:31.600 right now in the uh in the news and in this progression cycle so far as of up to right now

00:24:37.600 yeah of course i'll let ryan and your mic's a little bit low i'll let ryan and give his

00:24:45.020 perspective and then i'll jump on and then simon can jump on and i'll give you like a bit of an

00:24:48.160 overview of what's going on but ryan jump in if you want to add in whatever you want and then if

00:24:51.880 you want to give it over you uh just quick response to simon it's interesting because

00:24:56.960 there wouldn't be a tighter relationship between russia and china or china and the middle east or china

00:25:04.140 and latin america if not for these zionist policies uh of warmongering like they they wouldn't have to 0.73

00:25:12.080 split the world between china and the u.s they were happy to go with the u.s they were happy to use 0.94

00:25:16.600 dollars the u.s de-dollarized itself by putting sanctions on people and freezing funds and starting

00:25:23.360 wars on israel's behalf so we can see which faction is the winner there uh bird's eye view you've got

00:25:30.400 all the refuelers at least the one carrier strike group in the gulf uh you've got a little bit of

00:25:37.400 pushback on the u.s bases at least from the uae and qatar but we don't know how truthful they are

00:25:41.640 but i think they're genuine israel and uh the u.s is is sending more and more and it's apparently

00:25:48.580 their allies are starting to uh as well at least the uk has 13 fighter jets they're going to strike

00:25:54.580 it doesn't matter what we say this is happening i wish i could i wish it was otherwise i wish i could

00:26:02.700 white pill people but the this is going to happen um they've got uh attack comes as well i don't know

00:26:10.820 if they can burn through those but everything else i mean you already know uh the carrier groups there

00:26:15.720 they've got bombers fighter jets artillery refuelers uh and then they've got their paramilitary on the

00:26:22.620 ground like mek inside iran already they will not sit in the u.s army that's not doable um do you

00:26:30.900 think some green berets are on the ground over there assisting them with um you know launching a

00:26:34.820 revolution on that side what like special forces inside iran well they have like these guys up and

00:26:43.040 get them ready to you know launch a revolution on their side intelligence is there they have um

00:26:49.800 domestic sources to do that so you don't really have to send in people from oklahoma or something

00:26:55.960 there's plenty of uh anti-iranians in iran willing to do that okay so i guess from your analysis ryan

00:27:05.100 what would you say was the nail in the coffin that made you say okay these guys are absolutely

00:27:09.220 going to hit i mean obviously we've been talking about this for months now ever since the 12 day war

00:27:12.460 uh back in june we knew that uh they were at some point going to go back in to try to finish a job i

00:27:17.460 think um their strategy last time massively backfired they were hoping that uh there would

00:27:22.160 be a color revolution after bombing all their nuclear facilities and actually created the 0.85

00:27:26.000 opposite effect the rally around the flag effect where the people were saying hey hit israel back

00:27:30.820 and they hit them back pretty hard um what would you for me i think the the telltale side for me

00:27:35.420 just get my perspective was once they started moving their refuelers over there i was like yeah

00:27:38.860 they're 100 percent gonna hit um you know the invasion event as well i think that was another little

00:27:43.060 uh piece as well but for you from your perspective what do you think was the the nail in the coffin

00:27:47.320 that made you say okay they're obviously going to strike and it's going to be imminent and it's

00:27:50.400 more than likely going to be the u.s striking first because i thought it was going to be israel but

00:27:53.200 the more and more i see the mobilizing things the more i'm like oh man it might actually be us now

00:27:56.880 uh by the way mike's not still not great uh if you want to improve it that'd be awesome but back to you ryan

00:28:03.740 i knew they're going to strike iran before they sent refuelers like this is the plan this is open

00:28:11.400 they wrote about it's in their policy papers it's in their propaganda like iran was next

00:28:15.540 they wrote a script to take out all of israel's enemies and iran was the final piece of the pie 0.90

00:28:20.200 as far as like oh when is it going to be imminent well when they sent the refuelers

00:28:25.200 when they sent a carrier when they sent the lincoln then you know because i remember uh being asked

00:28:32.860 this before like are they going to strike tomorrow i said no are they gonna strike tomorrow i said no

00:28:36.860 they're not going to do anything until the lincoln arrives once you have a carrier strike force then

00:28:41.460 you've got a green light uh what they could send a three two or three of those uh but one they have

00:28:49.440 enough hubris to maybe think one's enough but once there's no reason for a carrier strike force group

00:28:55.120 to be in the gulf other than to threaten iran like it's also right i did read all the reports that

00:29:00.660 they have sent the uss uh george bush as well and so they possibly could be another one there as

00:29:05.860 well it's it's i don't know if this is on purpose but could you get worse than lincoln and bush

00:29:11.420 you know i hope they sink them

00:29:14.500 but yeah just just on what ryan said just to add to add to his point um uh myron i agree with what

00:29:22.760 he's saying what you what we saw was um i mean we were expecting it for a while because

00:29:27.140 just from a geopolitical perspective the israelis and the americans need this

00:29:32.000 done and dusted well before from the american perspective the midterms from the israeli perspective

00:29:37.160 the netanyahu election so we always expected it to be before like february time uh before mid february

00:29:43.300 um and then in addition to that what's kind of escalated here and we think it was imminent we've

00:29:48.680 had we've seen the uss abraham lincoln move towards iran now it's exactly where it needs to be it's

00:29:55.100 hiding off the shore of oman right now in addition to that we saw reports of the uss george bush moving

00:30:01.900 towards it so and then just over the last few days or the last four or five days uh we had um and

00:30:08.160 within the abraham lincoln we got the uss uh peterson jr the uss murphy the uss uh spurrence

00:30:15.800 and then they have like a large number of aircraft craft so we've got they've got these aircraft

00:30:20.180 carriers they've got the destroyers they've got the fighter jets uh and all of the 100 there's

00:30:26.420 submarines with those 100 they've got the submarines as well and they've got the air defense they've

00:30:32.740 basically the specific bases in the gcc they've replenished them as well significant amount of cargo

00:30:38.440 has gone there so we've seen a lot of c-17s bring cargoes into there bring air defense systems in

00:30:45.160 there we've seen a number of f-35s and ea-18s move uh move towards that region as well so i would say

00:30:52.460 like things are imminent like it could be any minute now like it could this is why i canceled

00:30:57.380 i was meant to go to vegas as well but i just canceled it because i thought this is happening

00:31:00.680 because like today tomorrow the next day it's happening

00:31:02.920 you can report from the poker table suly so okay let's uh now that we know that it's imminent we kind

00:31:12.500 of have an idea of all the resources that have been moved into place at this point um what do you

00:31:18.440 think is i mean if we had to you know kind of go through this play by play what is going to be the

00:31:23.600 first uh attack from the how's it going to be done are we talking about you know it's going to be

00:31:27.200 hitting a nuclear facility first is it going to be hitting a military strategic point first uh how do

00:31:32.560 you think they're going to kick this off well i think they'll strike the telecommunications they'll

00:31:37.120 basically strike where sorry sorry i meant to add in like on day one and then how would iran respond

00:31:43.680 in your opinion yeah i think day one is going to be hit the telecommunication uh telecommunication

00:31:48.860 facilities hit the uh where the missile launch pads are uh hit possibly uh if they think that this is

00:31:56.680 going to be their best chance to do it then hit where they believe some of the leadership is i think

00:32:01.020 strike one is going to be those specific targets and then that will be day one obviously over

00:32:06.680 the time the overarching thing is going to be hit as many military sites as possible hit the

00:32:11.700 nuclear sites hit the uh where the hypersonic missile uh launch pads are uh try and take out

00:32:18.580 the leadership they're going to attack on the first day as well what they'll do is as ryan said

00:32:23.460 they've within iran they have the mek but in addition that they have these mossad operatives

00:32:28.420 those will start attacking as well like they did last time you remember last time the first day

00:32:32.540 the most successful was actually these guys from within iran yeah so those people will attack as

00:32:37.800 well so this will be like a coordinated effort on the ground from the air in terms of how they attack

00:32:43.240 okay there's a high chance they have drones in iran too ready to go they had that the first time as

00:32:50.060 all um okay so uh do you guys think um i think now pretty much you guys are all pretty confident that

00:32:59.280 it's going to be the united states that launches the first attack um is israel going to also join

00:33:03.360 in on that day one assault um simultaneously in your opinion uh so that's ryan's opinion i'm not sure

00:33:11.420 i'm 50 50 on this i'm not sure if it's going to be israel or the united states of america who attacks

00:33:16.320 first because the issue with the united states are attacking is it adds the complex so why i think

00:33:21.560 ryan's it is more possible that it's america is because as he said and as we reported the gcc

00:33:27.380 countries have come out and said look we're not going to allow anyone to use our airbase we're not

00:33:32.120 going to help with the refueling we're not involved in this which seems to suggest that maybe it will

00:33:36.620 be america because if america attacks iran's going to attack the gcc countries so this sorry iran is so

00:33:42.020 this kind of make sure that they're not involved in the situation so that seems to suggest it's

00:33:46.620 america but the problem you have is if america attacks then iran is in a situation where they

00:33:51.020 should attack the gcc anyway and that's an easy attack and so it's going to be interesting in that

00:33:56.080 regard so i still think that maybe it's going to be israel but the fact that the gcc countries have

00:34:00.020 come out and said that kind of is an indicator that it is more likely going to be the united states of

00:34:04.760 america who attacks first that could be why the george bush is on the way because qatar and uae said no

00:34:10.780 exactly

00:34:12.340 wow um and we do know that um if i'm not mistaken a couple of years back the houthis hit 1.00

00:34:21.340 uh an oil field in saudi arabia and it absolutely demolished them you know it was it was it was a

00:34:26.000 very small scale attack and um they they pretty much crippled the oil operations for for a long

00:34:33.000 time for a few months so um i do we brought that up earlier yeah yeah no okay and i think that is a

00:34:40.260 very good uh weak point because i think the strategy for iran they know that they can't win

00:34:45.680 militarily they know that you know between the united states and israel um you know they're

00:34:50.900 superior from military standpoint i think iran's only play really is to make it so painful for the

00:34:56.760 west to attack them that they won't be able to stand it and it's gonna you're gonna have to hit

00:35:00.220 them and make it hurt economically is i think the only real deterrent they have where they're

00:35:04.160 destroying oil fields shunned down straight or her moose where it would completely cripple global 0.61

00:35:09.460 trade and it would force other countries to step in and uh negotiate some type of ceasefire i think

00:35:14.500 that's really the only play iran has is is just to make it too painfully economically uh for these

00:35:20.180 countries to attack them i don't know what you guys think the problem with that is is the stopping

00:35:24.800 the straight basically means you alienate your key ally which is china uh which from a longevity 1.00

00:35:31.080 perspective you destroy all opportunity in terms of from the gcc perspective and this is what we

00:35:37.160 discussed actually in detail marion before you came because um me and my me and ryan agree that

00:35:43.500 actually if i was iran if we were iran we would strike the gcc irrespective of the fact that they're

00:35:50.620 not allowing their airspace to be used and irrespective of the fact that they're not allowing

00:35:55.560 refueling because that as you said quite correctly would cause the united states of america

00:36:01.060 to stand back because now it means they're not able to protect the key allies that shows weakness

00:36:06.220 and they're getting trillions of dollars and defense packs to try and do it so that would be

00:36:09.920 the smart move i think but the problem you have with iran is that they may think that look if these

00:36:13.880 countries have said they're going to stay out and we then attack them you know we may look like

00:36:18.820 the bad guys or it may make us it may basically bring them in which i don't think it'll have that

00:36:23.940 much of an impact but there'll be certain calculations that they're going to do which may make

00:36:27.440 them like think twice about that but if i agree with me and ryan are on the same page on this one

00:36:32.740 like we think they should attack but i think they won't

00:36:34.660 yeah um and i mean obviously if they did shut down the shirt of her moves maybe they can have 1.00

00:36:42.520 some agreement with the chinese because yeah that's something that had me hung up too

00:36:45.240 is um you know that would hurt one of their biggest trade partners uh china but you know maybe

00:36:50.620 they would allow chinese ships to pass or cross i don't know but um but in general i guess from an

00:36:55.880 overview uh this way i don't think it's that i don't think it's that so go ahead china has the

00:37:03.620 largest oil reserve in the world right now they've been preparing for this for a long time um it will

00:37:10.380 create economic chaos initially upon the announcement but i don't think iran on their own can shut down the

00:37:17.760 strait of humus in order to like there is naval deployments from us britain saudi it requires

00:37:24.260 cooperation from amman like it's not it's it's it's a threat but i don't think it's um it just turns

00:37:32.740 into a naval war that immediately um i think could come under control by greater forces with china and

00:37:41.560 everyone um so it's even if it did happen it would push it would pump the price of oil initially

00:37:49.320 and then china would just start selling oil into the market because china um has significant influence

00:37:56.700 over oil prices now because it's just built those massive reserves and then it would make a shit ton

00:38:01.940 of money selling it at the high price um and then push the price back down again it would be probably

00:38:06.600 two weeks of disruption um i'd say

00:38:09.320 it's 20 of the trade of oil on the maritime silk road and simon's right they they physically could

00:38:21.120 not set up a blockade but you don't have to do blockade to shut down the strait you just have to

00:38:25.800 make the insurance cost so much that no one's willing to risk it and it's effectively shut

00:38:30.580 you know playing out um which you guys said just now if iran decides to strike the military bases

00:38:38.880 in gcc countries but not the oil fields you know hypothetically speaking you know if they show that

00:38:45.940 they have the hypersonic missiles and america can't protect them and you already have saudi arabia and

00:38:51.340 iran um joining in the bricks is it hypothetically possible that maybe there could be a pivot away from

00:38:57.620 america in the region that gets sparked by this showdown what are the chances of that

00:39:02.860 i think that that's yeah sorry god i think the chances are high on that um because if you look

00:39:10.760 at maybe less or south arabia because they've always been in alliance with the u.s uh for like 50 60 years

00:39:17.080 but those gcc countries they pay the united states of america trillions of dollars they have defense

00:39:22.520 packs with the united states of america they trade with the united states of america with the idea

00:39:28.260 and understanding that the u.s is going to protect them because in my view they're too weak to protect

00:39:33.000 themselves and they've always required to bring this support in from an external perspective

00:39:38.200 and so the fact that they were to be here i think that would actually make them real i think

00:39:44.340 it's like these guys can't protect us maybe we should think about having deals or trade with anyone

00:39:48.680 else so therefore you actually if you wanted those countries to become more pro china that would

00:39:53.880 actually be the move and actually uh simon that would probably add to your theory as well if they

00:39:57.540 wanted to be overtly more china that would actually be an easy way to do it but uh simon you're gonna

00:40:01.540 jump in go ahead uh you cut out a bit towards the end but look um the gcc countries have already been

00:40:08.640 making that pivot um their sovereign wealth funds are propped up by selling oil to china as their

00:40:14.620 primary customer um america is a net energy exporter so they compete so what is happening

00:40:20.960 right now is saudi is selling u.s treasuries because the currency is weakening um and it is

00:40:27.740 purchasing u.s equities and america has now sold 65 trillion dollars of its stock market and bond

00:40:35.340 market to foreign investors so america is no longer a sovereign country it doesn't act in its own

00:40:40.660 national interest it works for bondholders um and the the the fight you know the the financial um the

00:40:48.900 co-invest with all the sovereign wealth funds uh owns significantly more of um u.s assets as well

00:40:55.800 um so that pivot has already happened and china iran and russia um and including india have set up

00:41:05.180 basically a de-dollarized uh chinese credit system whereby you can trade with each other

00:41:10.700 uh to circumvent sanctions and uh bypass any need uh for the dollar so um and saudi has already reduced

00:41:18.880 the petro dollar to 70 percent and 30 percent of it is petro yuan at the moment um all of the

00:41:25.600 infrastructure deals that have been done in saudi is normally chinese infrastructure um like saudi

00:41:32.940 um is managing um is managing its relationship and the gcc is managing its relationship between america

00:41:39.980 europe and china but china pays the bills they just don't do pr um you know and and so that pivot has

00:41:48.100 already happened is already happening um but uh the uh you know america is replacing forever war contracts

00:41:57.920 based upon israel zionism um with essentially defense contracts and trying to create dependencies

00:42:05.860 while the gulf countries start setting up their alternative rails so with all the different um

00:42:12.420 good cop bad cop i call them um that we've seen like recently um you ended up with the alternative

00:42:19.140 packs between saudi um turkey and pakistan and then uae turning towards india um and these are all

00:42:27.780 around normalization um around china and the bricks corridors well that's a financial pivot i was

00:42:35.780 speaking one second jay uh maron uh was there anything else you wanted to add or ask um no man

00:42:42.320 i mean um what's your view on it uh i i think um you know i think at this point it's it's it's pretty

00:42:49.640 eminent and i think the u.s has done what they've what they've kind of threatened they've mobilized

00:42:53.780 quite a bit of uh resource and i think at this point it's too it's too deep to not do anything

00:42:58.700 right at first you can make the argument oh maybe it's just posturing maybe it's just to show force

00:43:02.460 maybe it's just to you know get them to the table but i don't think even i think trump is trying to

00:43:07.340 manufacture a justification to a strike he tried it with the protesters didn't work tried it with the

00:43:11.840 executions it didn't work uh you know now he's saying uh oh iran come to the table make a deal but we

00:43:18.660 know that he never actually negotiates in good faith so i think right now they're looking for

00:43:23.360 some type of pull uh political uh scapegoat to justify their them attacking first and i think

00:43:29.360 that's what kind of what it is so it's uh yeah i mean at this point you know it's just inevitable

00:43:35.000 with them mobilizing that many resources um there's a question for you uh from youtube and we are live on

00:43:42.340 youtube as well guys the tweet is in the nest i think we're about two three hundred there we've got

00:43:46.400 about one thousand four hundred here and myron the question to you is this that from a u.s perspective

00:43:52.780 we're aware that people in america don't have an appetite for a ground invasion into iran but what

00:44:02.380 about an offensive war that means bombing from the air whatever it may be supplying uh you know

00:44:09.620 causing like a syria type of rebellion what's what's the kind of appetite in the united states of america

00:44:14.640 from that perspective it would be very bad i think um everyone is still traumatized from iraq and all

00:44:21.160 the wars in the middle east um you know i think at this point everyone is pretty red-pilled on um

00:44:26.900 you know how the iraq war was not really a war for the united states how it didn't benefit us it took

00:44:31.040 us 20 years to realize it um but i think at this point even normies understand that the war in iraq was

00:44:36.340 was for israel you know people are starting to wake up to israel's influence um this past year or past

00:44:40.980 well these two past two years uh awareness on the israel problem has skyrocketed dude i like i can't

00:44:46.360 even explain it i remember vividly in early 2023 when i when we would talk about you know israel or

00:44:52.080 zionism or whatever we had to use sound effects we couldn't say jew we couldn't say israel we couldn't 0.95

00:44:56.300 say anything um i remember having ryan on my show we literally hit the bell every time we discussed

00:45:00.280 this topic and for you know the 180 degree turn that i've seen where people are openly talking about

00:45:06.660 it progressives are talking about it you know they're naming them by the name this is unprecedented

00:45:11.000 so i think all of this awareness on this topic has made it even more of a uh disliked excuse me

00:45:19.080 uh potential outcome with going to war the the you know the the scars of iraq are still very um fresh

00:45:26.240 and a lot of people are just finding out about it so i think a war from the u.s perspective is

00:45:31.380 absolutely not going to be happy like from the conservative side trump campaigned on no new wars

00:45:36.580 that's a big reason why people voted for him that's a big reason i voted for him right uh from

00:45:40.120 the progressive side um they understand that uh these wars are only to you know prop up israel who

00:45:46.080 they look at as a colonial apartheid state that you know is occupying people so the but the bottom

00:45:52.580 line is the same from the right wing perspective we don't like a foreign country hijacking our uh our 0.88

00:45:57.980 military and our foreign policy right that could potentially get u.s soldiers killed from the left

00:46:01.980 wing perspective they don't like that we are supporting a regime that is responsible for the

00:46:06.980 death and destruction of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of innocent people and

00:46:11.440 children as we watch what happened in gaza and the fact that they claim to be a democracy but they're

00:46:15.960 anything else but that they're literally the complete opposite so both factions in america oppose

00:46:21.920 israel for different reasons but the bottom line is they both oppose so a war um on their behalf

00:46:27.360 because that's what this this conflict is even an idiot when room temperature iq understands that 0.54

00:46:31.680 this a conflict with iran doesn't benefit us even a moron is going to say we don't want this so

00:46:36.660 it's going to be extremely even if the united states tries to say oh yeah it's only going to be limited

00:46:41.820 we're only going to do airstrikes whatever i think uh that us attacking them and making aware iran's

00:46:47.520 going to have to retaliate and putting soldiers at risk that is going to be completely intolerable for

00:46:51.920 the majority of americans in my my opinion we do we do not have the appetite for conflict like we did

00:46:56.180 back in 2003 there's no 9-11 to justify um preemptively attacking iran like there was in uh 2001

00:47:02.940 myron what about the the factions of americans that might think it's like venezuela and they were

00:47:09.880 really loving that we're strengthening the dollar america's the strongest military we're taking over

00:47:16.060 the oil this is making america great again what if they have like a fantasy that they're going to get

00:47:21.520 hold of all of iran's oil and strengthen the dollar and show the world that america's still the

00:47:27.380 global hegemon no that's that's a that's a great question i think the difference here between uh

00:47:32.360 venezuela and uh and iran is that with the venezuela situation right and i've and i because what i'll do

00:47:38.100 is i'll watch a lot of political commentators that i that you know are pro venezuela invasion

00:47:42.280 and almost all of them use the same exact excuse monroe doctrine right even though i laugh when people

00:47:47.220 say that because you know china and russia have been in our hemisphere for a very long time doing

00:47:52.180 business you know i mean so it's like they're over here saying like yeah we got to keep the chinese 0.97

00:47:55.360 out like uh bro newsflash the chinese pretty much control the caribbean right like if you get your 0.56

00:48:00.360 passport and go to jamaica there's a bunch of chinese all over the place they're all over the

00:48:03.620 bahamas they're all over south america all over the caribbean etc so this monroe doctrine unless you're

00:48:09.380 an idiot uh it doesn't really hold hold uh hold weight um but i would say in this situation 0.83

00:48:14.780 there's two main differences number one venezuela's in our hemisphere so politicians were able to use

00:48:19.180 that to justify and then number two venezuela doesn't have the military capability to actually

00:48:23.320 hit us back um iran does they're a significantly bigger country they have a more they have they're

00:48:28.540 significantly more effective from a military standpoint and uh and they can absolutely strike

00:48:32.680 us back so i think um we i think politicians are going to have a way harder time selling uh a war

00:48:38.640 with iran than they will with venezuela because with venezuela um no one got killed you know it

00:48:43.400 demonstrate our power they're in our hemisphere there's talking points that they can use to the

00:48:47.880 american public that doesn't expose the problems but i think with iran it's going to be way harder

00:48:51.880 for them to justify it my opinion just another question for you marion um in terms of um going

00:49:02.220 forward you mentioned how the appetite may not be there for war um the problem you have is from the

00:49:09.300 israeli perspective and from the u.s perspective we mentioned this earlier but time is running out

00:49:15.100 they both need this done asap um yeah so i mean there's there's a bit of like fast movement there's

00:49:23.860 a bit of a rush towards this like if this is i guess let me rephrase the question if trump was truly

00:49:29.440 america first and he was put in and remember he let's say he wanted to go to war or he wanted to

00:49:35.500 attack foreign nations but it was specifically for america you take out venezuela the next smart 0.65

00:49:40.060 move is cuba or uh what you call it again colombia that's within the region within the hemisphere

00:49:46.140 but yet he's doing this extravagant war that could go long term then the risks with this are

00:49:54.240 significantly more what does this say in terms of the level of control that these zionists have over 1.00

00:49:58.960 the united states of america well i think at this point now it's extremely evident right we can look at

00:50:04.740 like the tiktok purchase which we predicted would happen right um you know the fact that they're

00:50:10.060 literally making the term zionist going to be a protected class and term um you know the the the

00:50:16.540 campaign we saw in gaza uh with them just bombing them for you know literally for two years you know

00:50:22.780 and and there's still a there's still conflict over there too like people say oh yeah it's a ceasefire

00:50:26.680 it's mostly gone yeah there's still people dying there's still people starving they're still not

00:50:29.700 getting the trucks in like they're supposed to uh they're still not holding up to their full end of the

00:50:33.560 argument um they're trying to get lebanon to disarm they're trying to get hamas to disarm

00:50:37.140 right and they use that as justification to keep attacking them so um i think the american public

00:50:42.840 in general um is extremely extremely um fed up with uh israeli influence in our government you know

00:50:50.260 you and and you know the numbers show it you look at someone like a ben shapiro for example right

00:50:54.260 who at one point 10 years ago was the top right-wing political commentator in america you know you

00:50:59.720 couldn't you open up facebook this guy was everywhere he was taking over he was on all

00:51:03.640 the top podcasts um ever since october 7th and people waking up to this problem in america

00:51:08.560 um his views uh have dropped off you know significantly losing subscribers the daily wire is pretty much in

00:51:16.160 in shambles um a lot of conservative talking heads that used to be pro-zionist or you know staying

00:51:21.700 quiet on the topic you look at someone like i'll give you a perfect example right now megan kelly right

00:51:25.500 man kelly's completely switched her tune up she it was a very big supporter of israel was super

00:51:31.360 anti um you know critics of israel um and now she's switching up her tune uh because she realizes that

00:51:38.700 even in the right-wing party uh being supportive of israel unless you're like a retarded boomer is 0.99

00:51:43.260 gonna probably cost you some viewership so people that were starting to sign of supporters in the right

00:51:47.960 wing are even starting to switch their tunes up man so i think at this point um you got to be living

00:51:52.300 under a rock to not understand uh where we are in america now like obviously there's still gonna

00:51:57.220 be some boomers that are stupid um but man we we've literally went through like an information 0.76

00:52:02.080 revolution over the past couple of years and they keep proving us right whether it's the censorship

00:52:06.360 of tiktok the purchase of tiktok the anti-semitism laws ice officials arresting college students for

00:52:11.900 uh politically protected speech that's critical of a foreign country um you know a lot of the things

00:52:17.080 that came from the um project esther that the heritage foundation wrote back at the end of 2024

00:52:22.200 as trump was campaigning a lot of it's coming coming to fruition now so yeah the writing has

00:52:28.960 been on the wall for a very long time and i think people are finally starting to see to see that right

00:52:32.500 that people are figuring out what the clean break memo was all of this information that was like

00:52:36.880 super adapted super censored super suppressed it's out in the in the limelight now i mean hell the

00:52:42.040 fucking letter to america from osama bin laden went viral a couple of years ago like i never thought 0.83

00:52:46.840 i'd see the day so that's where we are in the united states right now um and i'm sure a lot of

00:52:51.820 the um other western countries i know in the uk you guys are getting red-pilled on this i know

00:52:55.100 australia for sure is getting red-pilled on this this is why they also amped up their anti-semitism laws

00:52:59.040 um so i think the western world in general not just the united states is absolutely waking up to

00:53:03.700 zionist control of their countries 1.00

00:53:04.940 um and so myron another question i've got for you is i mean me and you both of us i remember

00:53:17.060 platforming ryan dawson in 2023 talking about 9 11 i almost got canceled i know what happened to you

00:53:22.460 you got demonetized as well in terms of specifically you're looking at you mentioned about tiktok

00:53:28.880 you mentioned about the kind of levers of power they're now basically implementing to make sure

00:53:35.380 they take control back over social media mainstream media you saw what's happened with cbs and barry

00:53:42.080 wise um we're seeing massive censorship do you think that they're going to be able to recapture the

00:53:48.060 audience again or do you think that they've accepted this audience they're not going to take

00:53:52.020 control over and they're looking for the new generation to recapture and retake control over

00:53:56.040 i think they lost the young people man i think um the the unprecedented explosion of upscroll that

00:54:02.600 signified this you know people have you know something like the tiktok uninstalls are up like

00:54:06.800 150 or whatever um i think they've lost the youth man i truly do think they lost the youth and i think

00:54:13.900 also another thing that is making that's accelerating this problem of them losing the youth was the

00:54:18.720 assassination of charlie kirk like uh i don't know if you guys noticed it but i saw anti-israel uh sentiment

00:54:24.620 explode after charlie was assassinated right um and it goes to show just how much power he wielded

00:54:30.940 in uh the american right wing from a social media perspective because before he was killed

00:54:36.120 he was trying to you know kind of reverse and uh massage or try to rehabilitate israel's image with the

00:54:43.520 young people i remember he had done uh like a sit down with a bunch of turning point usa students

00:54:47.560 um trying to get their take on what's going on here we know that he wrote that letter to netanyahu

00:54:51.680 um i think he saw the writing on the wall that like we we need to really do a marketing push here

00:54:56.640 and get things fixed up and when he was assassinated um it led to you know other uh people in the right

00:55:02.040 wing uh becoming more popular we saw the meteoric rise of nick fuentes who's been extremely critical of

00:55:06.720 of israel uh kind of that narrative get out into the into the main uh mainstream for the normies

00:55:12.400 uh we saw tucker crosser start to talk about these problems and other people follow suit so um 0.93

00:55:18.240 i think the assassination of charlie kirk played a huge role and um and you know kind of uh israel's

00:55:26.280 being exposed because he did run quite a bit of uh cover for for them for a long time

00:55:31.600 um and and so myron um in terms of going forward now you've got this war with iran coming you've got

00:55:43.060 the us and israel involved you've got basically at what point do you have like a massive campaign

00:55:49.380 against uh trump if this war is elongated i don't think it'll be long but maybe someone like jay does

00:55:56.000 think it's going to be longer maybe boots on the ground if the war does go long term is there a

00:56:01.760 scenario where people turn on trump or do you think that his his approval rate is at a point it's quite

00:56:06.840 low anyway it's not going to drop anymore i think if american soldiers start getting killed um people

00:56:13.440 are going to take to the streets and protest i i both on the left and on the right um i think that

00:56:18.980 will be um if soldiers start dying that's when they're you're going to probably see some real um

00:56:25.680 you know vietnam levels of uh protest because this is this is any this is like uh this is an issue that

00:56:32.620 both sides care about and avoiding so i think um obviously they're going to protest it from different

00:56:36.840 perspectives but they're going to protest the war uh nonetheless so i think um we will not be able to

00:56:42.860 sustain any type of casualties without some like massive backlash especially since trump campaigned

00:56:47.320 on uh no new wars um and then as far as um was you asked me the other question um shit what was the 0.60

00:56:55.320 other one you asked me there was a two-part question to there you asked about what how the people

00:56:58.340 will respond and then oh the length of the war yes i agree with you i don't think it's going to

00:57:04.000 be long either they will not they uh and simply put the reason why the conflict won't be long

00:57:07.980 um is because i think a war of attrition actually benefits the the iranians uh and the reason why

00:57:13.020 is because um all they have to do is wait out for the thad interceptor missiles to uh to run out

00:57:18.340 and uh i think i was look i was looking into this like a day or two ago those interceptor missiles are

00:57:23.480 like somewhere between one to 12 million dollars a pop so uh obviously you know using those missiles

00:57:31.020 to intercept twenty thousand dollar drones uh you can't do that forever right you only have a limited

00:57:35.420 amount of time where you can uh you know shoot down these these drones and missiles that it costs

00:57:40.520 significantly less than these interceptors so uh a war of attrition is actually not to our favor or

00:57:45.540 the israelis uh this is why the 12 day war didn't last much longer and why the israelis were literally

00:57:50.360 begging for a for a ceasefire um because they were getting hit really hard and uh they understood

00:57:54.940 that it's only a matter of time uh in a war of attrition that they're going to start to lose

00:57:59.020 actually interestingly enough it benefits the iranians can i ask you a follow-up question on that

00:58:04.460 myron yeah so if america goes in with the goal of toppling the regime or completely destroying the

00:58:12.840 ballistic missile program and the nuclear program and they don't achieve any of those goals um because

00:58:19.600 you know maybe as soon as the war starts up iran starts sending off hypersonic missiles at israel

00:58:26.600 and u.s military bases in the region and we get american soldiers dying and they feel like

00:58:32.740 the only way they can achieve some of their goals is by putting american boots on the ground

00:58:37.620 do you think america pulls back or doubles down and sends in more people boots on the ground would 0.99

00:58:43.680 be uh political suicide for trump to be honest with you the boots on the ground would be absolute

00:58:48.960 political suicide if he did that i mean look we're probably going to lose the midterms anyway

00:58:52.840 um but that would yeah i i that would be political suicide not that would have just killed trump's uh

00:58:59.760 image and you know alongside all the epstein stuff that would hurt jd vance too and his you know run in

00:59:05.060 2028 if he tried to so i think that would be a huge huge blunder to try to put boots on the ground

00:59:11.720 and here's the other thing too unpopular opinion here we're gonna get fucked up like you know we could 0.96

00:59:16.360 potentially win that conflict but guys keep in mind like you know special forces you know tier one

00:59:21.720 operators were struggling to fight against the taliban in afghanistan you know we're talking about guys 1.00

00:59:26.440 using fucking world war ii weaponry right um you know able to hold back the some of the top uh 0.88

00:59:34.040 soldiers in the world uh only based on you know the environment you know these these mountainous

00:59:39.080 um environments are extremely unforgiving as far as um for um invading countries right we saw this with

00:59:45.280 the mujahideen and the russians in the 1980s osama bin laden was able to beat and push the soviets back

00:59:51.080 uh using a bunch of ragtag uh militia guys because the environment was so unforgiving for the russians

00:59:56.360 and as an invading country you face a significantly um uphill battle a significantly larger uphill battle

01:00:02.480 when you invade even if you have a superior military superior technology etc the invading country always

01:00:07.000 has a huge deficit to catch up so even with our military might even with our uh with our skilled

01:00:12.180 soldiers we're talking tier one tier two uh operators they're gonna struggle dude they struggled

01:00:16.640 against the taliban uh they're gonna do even worse against the irgc so i think boots on the ground not

01:00:21.620 just as political suicide for the trump administration it's also gonna get our boys and girls killed

01:00:26.160 absolutely and and i don't think that's that's the move if we struggle against the taliban

01:00:29.480 what what if one of the goals is actually to implement that surveillance state and by getting

01:00:35.820 people angry and out protesting and acting a fool gives them a reason to implement that you know then

01:00:42.440 you kind of kill two birds with one stone if the goal is regime change and surveillance state in

01:00:47.840 america and you don't care about the u.s dollar because you know you're planning on inflating the

01:00:52.820 death way anyway i'm a little confused by a question are you saying that like they would

01:00:57.060 send boots on the ground purposely so they could get uh i guess fight an uphill battle take some

01:01:03.960 casualties and use that to justify putting more boots on the ground is that what you're asking

01:01:07.360 no so if you just pointed out how it would be political suicide here in america and deeply

01:01:13.340 unpopular and it would get both the left and the right out into the streets because people would be

01:01:17.860 angry if you look at um you know all the donations that trump has taken from big tech in the surveillance

01:01:24.440 state you know they do need to manufacture consent um you know to implement some of the things they've

01:01:30.200 been working towards with palantir and the other big tech companies so hypothetically speaking if they

01:01:35.820 did put boots on the ground and people started acting up and protesting hard and you know getting

01:01:41.060 crazy in the protests would that not justify um the technology that palantir is trying to implement

01:01:47.040 along with all the other you know surveillance state contracts that have been going out i think

01:01:52.160 they're already implementing it right now and i think minneapolis is probably going to be the the

01:01:56.000 grounds for this we know that um what ice is doing in border patrol is anyone that's like heckling them

01:02:00.960 or following them they're taking pictures of them and they're putting them into a database i you know

01:02:05.280 am 99 sure that that database is probably going to be some type of uh palantir-esque type software that

01:02:12.480 they're going to utilize um to keep a database of uh you know all these progressive agitators

01:02:17.280 uh and these ice raids so they're already collecting it right now

01:02:19.940 touche i mean this would if it does anger people on the right it could actually you know allow people

01:02:30.960 to collect um that info on both sides um but you know i don't think we're quite at the point where

01:02:36.520 they're justified in rolling out everything they want to yet but you're right they have already started

01:02:41.300 down that path so yeah they're they're doing they're just doing it surreptitiously now but

01:02:45.080 they're absolutely um using that and and i know for a fact because i used to work for for hsi i used

01:02:49.360 to work for ice you know all the government agencies have some version of palantir so um i would not be

01:02:54.460 surprised whatsoever and it's a very powerful software um i would not be surprised if they're

01:02:58.800 not using it right now to identify all these agitators put them all in a database and then

01:03:03.080 you know at some point who knows they might do a huge fucking roundup right and pick all these

01:03:07.960 people up down the road do a massive indictment um and grab all these people uh for impeding uh

01:03:14.960 official duties because i think at this point um you know minneapolis finally started using stay

01:03:20.280 and locals to augment what the the feds have going on um but i think at this point they're starting to

01:03:25.200 realize like look these blue cities will leave us out to dry if if uh push comes to shove they're more

01:03:29.920 they're they're more scared of their um potential voter base getting pissed off than law and order

01:03:35.360 so i i would not be surprised if um some indictment comes down the road and you know arrest a massive

01:03:41.280 amount of these people we know the signal chats got leaked we know that they're using this database

01:03:44.580 to identify people so i would not be surprised if there was a massive indictment that arrested a

01:03:48.460 bunch of people all across minneapolis sounds like one of those fema camp conspiracies you're talking 0.85

01:03:54.000 about right there man yeah but i mean look when it comes to that i think these agitators are in the

01:03:58.940 wrong uh when it comes to this immigration stuff because a lot of these guys aren't there to actually

01:04:03.780 protest they're there to agitate they're there to start problems they're there to impede law

01:04:07.760 enforcement officials and i know some people here might not agree with me or not not like me saying

01:04:11.700 this um but look dude if you're going to go ahead and put your hands on a federal agent or get in the

01:04:15.720 way of them doing uh immigration enforcement you're committing a felony and people need to remember

01:04:21.200 that um you know illegal aliens being in the united states is a crime you know we've we've kind of 1.00

01:04:26.680 blunted our senses to the concept of illegal aliens for so long because so many politicians didn't want

01:04:31.440 to deal with this catch-22 hot potato um of enforcing immigration but you know don't forget that what

01:04:38.260 ice is doing is absolutely lawful and we voted for this in america right you know trump got elected

01:04:43.580 off of you know foreign policy no new wars mass deportations closing the border uh the border down

01:04:50.140 um and he's you know he's done something that he actually you know i got to give him credit where it's

01:04:53.900 due i'm i'm i praise him when needed but i also criticize him when needed when it comes to closing down

01:04:59.080 the border he did a fantastic job the border is closed uh with all those extra assets and border

01:05:03.080 patrol he moved those guys into interior city so that they can actually uh properly conduct interior

01:05:07.800 uh immigration enforcement which is something that is unprecedented that most other presidents have

01:05:11.960 never done um and they're doing that now and obviously they're getting quite a bit of backlash and

01:05:16.280 there's going to be some problems but you know people need to understand that you can't come to the

01:05:20.700 country illegally stay here and think that you're just going to stay and we've uh avoided this topic

01:05:25.880 for so long that these progressives actually think they're in the right by um opposing and or um

01:05:32.240 impeding federal law enforcement as they do their job so uh you know and alex preddy renee good

01:05:38.560 however you might feel about their shootings you might like you know dislike it from a moral

01:05:43.060 perspective you might not agree it might have you outraged that's fine but what we need to understand

01:05:47.800 here outside of how you feel we got to go off what's real just because it's awful doesn't mean it was

01:05:52.960 not lawful and both shootings are absolutely lawful do not impede federal agents as they're you know

01:05:58.500 conducting operations lawful operations and uh you're not going to get shot that's the reality dude and

01:06:03.940 people don't like that but that's the truth both shootings are lawful well i don't know if you heard

01:06:09.680 about trump's new directive um but he did actually just say uh i believe it was earlier today or the day

01:06:16.200 before um that ice officials are no longer allowed to um arrest american citizens and mess with american

01:06:23.520 citizens and they have actually been doing that um they've been attacking people um you know just for 0.97

01:06:28.680 filming them and that's kind of what happened with the alex pretty situation so when you say

01:06:33.560 alex pretty was blocking them that isn't really what the video shows they just got upset because he was

01:06:39.880 videotaping them and then they assaulted him and i do understand that there was that other video that

01:06:45.080 came out you know of him a few days ago and there's a good chance that he probably should have you know

01:06:50.400 been in jail or at least been arrested for what he was doing but again that's not ice's job ice does

01:06:57.020 not do arrests of citizens they're there to carry out deportation so they're kind of going beyond

01:07:03.720 that's that's 100 incorrect you're wrong there um that's not true whatsoever if american citizens

01:07:08.280 impede uh official duties they absolutely can get arrested for 18 usc 111 that that is a that is a

01:07:13.940 charge that anyone can get um the only reason ice has been dealing with and or arresting or detaining

01:07:20.340 u.s citizens is because u.s citizens put themselves in between ice and the subjects that they are trying

01:07:25.460 to arrest that is why and that that's that's why some of these people get detained get arrested etc

01:07:30.680 as far as alex pretty goes um the video shows it clear as day a border patrol agent is encounter is

01:07:36.940 in a in the middle of an encounter with a female pushes her alex pretty comes uh walks up to him 0.91

01:07:42.780 and puts his hand on the agent and that's when the agent pepper sprays him and a struggle ensues

01:07:47.400 i don't know why you're putting a thumbs down this is exactly what's on the video um you know so

01:07:51.520 that obviously led to that obviously led to an interact uh an interaction where alex pretty was 0.99

01:07:57.380 wrestled down to the ground um somebody yelled gun they disarmed him the gun went off as they were

01:08:02.220 disarming him um at the time the agents did not know that he had been disarmed they did not know

01:08:06.200 that the gun that the gunshot that fired was an accidental discharge and they presumed that it might

01:08:11.180 have come from the subject and that's when they fired and uh you know you guys could put thumbs

01:08:15.600 down all you guys want uh but the reality is that law enforcement is not judged on 2020 hindsight like

01:08:19.980 you guys are trying to do right now law enforcement and use of force in general is judged from a was it

01:08:25.240 reasonable based on their perception at the time the shots were fired i cannot stress this enough

01:08:29.320 and this is why you progressives tend to be fucking retards because you guys go off of how you feel 0.99

01:08:34.480 versus what's real what does the law say the law says if the use of force was reasonable based on the

01:08:40.040 facts and circumstances known to the individual that exercised that force then the shooting is

01:08:45.160 clear and in this case you got an agitator you got a guy that came up and touched the agent first he

01:08:49.580 assaulted the agent first he committed a felony they tried to detain him he resisted he got uh wrestled

01:08:55.100 down to the ground he had a gun like this is just it is what it is like look we can say that something

01:09:00.580 sucks and it's bad but it's still lawful and alex pretty should have been more responsible and uh a

01:09:06.000 better uh a better judge of how to behave as a concealed carry owner he should know better

01:09:11.960 maran just a quick question uh bringing the conversation back to iran um the um when i look

01:09:19.720 at what's going to happen in iran to me it seems like there is a possibility that you could end up

01:09:26.240 with a syria situation i was obviously against what was happening the rebellion in syria for the same

01:09:31.440 reason because my view was that they would first of all it would be health israel and the second thing

01:09:36.080 is that the situation would be much worse after that than it was before and you saw all these

01:09:41.740 functions go in you saw civil war for a very long time you saw paid mercenaries go in and you saw an

01:09:49.240 elongated world war for 10 years that resulted in so much loss of life so much injuries bringing this

01:09:57.720 back to iran you would have in my view a much worse situation they would fund the mek they would fund

01:10:04.880 the below chistanis maybe even the kurds you basically have and then you had mossad operatives

01:10:10.800 on in the ground you would have cia operatives on the ground you would basically pay mercenaries from

01:10:16.100 central asia or from um you know from the from the turkic regions and you basically would result in

01:10:23.640 probably a much more ferocious civil war because the irgc is very strong the people who are pro-government

01:10:29.800 are very strong the factions who disagree with them are strong and so you could have so much loss of

01:10:37.200 life if this goes a pear-shaped what's your thoughts on that american public's not gonna um stomach it man

01:10:45.400 i i the the wounds of iraq are still very um very deep and and a lot of people are waking up to it

01:10:51.820 now and i think um the youth the young people are going to have even less of a stomach for it because

01:10:56.020 they a lot of these people weren't alive during 9-11 so they didn't get the propaganda propaganda

01:11:01.120 uh you know indoctrination that we got right anyone that that's in their 30s here we all vividly

01:11:06.120 remember 9-11 we all vividly remember you know george bush famous at being at ground zero saying to the

01:11:11.320 firefighters i hear you and the people that did this are going to hear all of us very soon right like

01:11:15.100 these iconic moments right we remember when he addressed the united states uh you know the day

01:11:19.820 the day of 9-11 remember when he was down there in sarasota reading a book to the kids and he gets

01:11:24.680 sold uh you know 9-11 happened we remember all that these young people don't so they didn't deal with

01:11:30.080 the propaganda kool-aid that we did 20 years ago so they're looking at this conflict with a fresh set

01:11:33.960 of eyes and they're like what the fuck are we going to war in the middle east for right weapons of mass

01:11:37.120 destruction that was a lie so i think the american public in general um you know both old and young

01:11:42.600 they're not going to stomach it the older guys like us are going to that you know that aren't

01:11:45.360 retards we're going to be like yep they lied to us about iraq why are we doing this and then the 0.92

01:11:48.380 young people they're going to have even less tolerance because they're like well what are we 1.00

01:11:51.200 doing here there's no justification like are you guys stupid like you guys got fooled once already 0.89

01:11:54.340 so i don't really see any um class of uh american unless you're like a dumb boomer that is super pro

01:12:01.160 israel zionist um supporting this conflict that's an l in every way but real quick i do want to say

01:12:06.000 because it seems like jay scott and dr uh tausa madavi keep uh putting thumbs down when i'm saying facts

01:12:11.440 what is wrong with my assessment of alex preddy because i i've noticed that you progressives can

01:12:15.020 never actually debate me on the facts you guys always use feelings how am i wrong why you like

01:12:20.620 suggest that we're progressives how do you like would how would you say that why would you say i'm a

01:12:26.280 progressive i'm i'm i'm an independent i'm not a progressive but i have seen the video footage

01:12:32.960 of uh what you're describing and the way you're describing it is as if you saw someone's um the police

01:12:40.880 uh a camera they never released it there is reason why they didn't release it i watched the video

01:12:46.920 that was um taken by a witness at the scene and after he was disarmed they shot him three times in

01:12:54.940 okay let's back up let's back up i mean you're now you're now interrupting me i never interrupted you

01:13:01.540 except once but um i just think that so what is your take on january 6th and what is your take on january

01:13:08.440 6th the fact that a lot of those guys were uh conceal carrying and they ran into the help you know

01:13:17.360 whatever and they destroyed property i know i'm not saying i'm for it or against it but to me it's

01:13:24.060 such a hypocrisy that a lot of the republicans uh that were so hung ho about oh january 6th was

01:13:32.480 peaceful how come they were treated that way and they were sentenced to 20 years imprisonment they were

01:13:39.220 illegally carrying a weapon just like this guy was right and uh you know i guess a couple people

01:13:46.600 died during january 6th etc but it's such a hypocrisy that when the republicans do it it's fine

01:13:54.900 but when the progressives or the democrats do it on the other side and they get shot dead it's just so

01:14:01.960 legal like it's totally legal and you can get shot to death by ice or police if you interfere

01:14:09.620 no the police are trained to de-escalate and they didn't they haven't done anything to de-escalate

01:14:17.600 and that woman that was shot in his in her head like execution style um and they did you know the 1.00

01:14:25.980 police are trained not to jump in front of a car that is let's say supposedly trying to hurt them

01:14:32.820 but that dude that ice person uh that obviously is not trained well obviously is panicking actually

01:14:41.220 jumps in front of a car that is trying to soar away and go and run or whatever you brought up

01:14:47.540 multiple instances here can we can we focus on one real quick uh you you brought up january 6th

01:14:51.860 you brought up renee good let's stick to let's stick to pretty and if you want to address the 0.62

01:14:55.080 other ones we can but let's go off of alex pretty real fast okay i noticed you started the story at

01:15:00.260 the part where they disarmed him but we need to back up if we're going to actually go ahead and

01:15:03.240 properly assess this because the totality of the circumstances absolutely matter okay we can't just

01:15:07.000 start the story off when he's disarmed what led to him being disarmed well he put his hands on a

01:15:13.140 federal agent as a federal agent was dealing with another suspect that is extremely what

01:15:17.960 he raised his hand to stop that uh ice agent hold on stop stop stop what did he do what did he do

01:15:26.460 they were trying to take that woman i don't know what that woman was had done but he would okay

01:15:32.500 that's that's irrelevant so he pushes the woman what did alex pretty do after he pushed that woman

01:15:37.060 what did he do i'm sorry who did what what did okay as ice was dealing with the woman what happened

01:15:43.500 after that well he tried to intervene okay right there shut the fuck up you're done you lost you're 0.93

01:15:51.740 done he committed a crime you're done everything that you say from 0.4 it's done it's done use a

01:15:57.840 cuss word against me no because because you're failing to realize that you just made my argument

01:16:01.900 for me look because look look look look look okay woman look look look look see i'm trying to be

01:16:09.020 patient with you and i'm trying to be polite here oh really you don't realize you don't realize that

01:16:13.140 you just made the ice is and can you can you can you move this for a second as if like okay because

01:16:19.880 here's the problem let's have a proper conversation yeah so here's she doesn't realize that her entire 1.00

01:16:26.220 argument is done off of that as soon as alex pretty walked up to that border patrol agent and put his

01:16:33.060 hands on that border patrol agent as he was dealing with someone else he forfeited all privilege all

01:16:39.760 right to you know continue doing what he was doing because at that point now he's officially interfering

01:16:44.860 now here's the problem right she wants to sit there and say oh well he should be able to do that

01:16:50.400 with no consequence no you cannot put your hands on a federal agent as he's dealing with someone else

01:16:55.120 and then think that nothing's going to happen and as soon as he did the agent pepper sprayed him

01:17:00.180 rightfully so you cannot put your hands on a federal agent as they're there lawfully conducting

01:17:04.100 some type of immigration enforcement operation it does not matter what he was dealing with the woman 0.97

01:17:08.040 for we that that's not relevant what we do know is that that guy walked up to him and touched him

01:17:12.040 first at that point it's done you have no leg to stand on legally so yeah so your framing is wrong

01:17:17.100 you know i don't i know it's a lot of videos that have been going around however the alex pretty did

01:17:23.800 not walk up to the agents the agents walked up to him because they didn't want to be videotaped and

01:17:28.760 what they were doing you just said yourself that they're making up a database of everyone who's

01:17:33.720 videotaping them um so the last thing they want is to be watched right now and the truth is what i saw

01:17:40.580 was a man videotaping him then the officer comes up to pretty and as he comes up let me finish let

01:17:46.620 me finish let me finish what i'm saying let me finish what i'm saying and as he as he walked up to

01:17:51.180 as he walked up to alex pretty then they both seem to have put their hands on each other at the same

01:17:57.640 time and they're at no point did the officer say stop you are under arrest from that point it went

01:18:04.720 straight to throwing them on the ground beating them up next thing you know they disarm them and then

01:18:09.160 shoot them and your description of alex pretty's gun going off and then the officer firing is also

01:18:15.380 not what i have seen i heard that theory going around but if you zoom in and you watch what actually

01:18:21.400 happened it seems like every shot that went off went off from the same gun and it happened after

01:18:27.620 alex pretty was disarmed so you're framing of the whole situation let me finish what i'm saying

01:18:32.880 you're framing of the whole situation is wrong and if the government actually wanted to get to the

01:18:38.360 bottom of it what they would have said was hey we're sorry alex pretty is dead we're going to do

01:18:43.480 an investigation at this time we feel like the agents acted properly however we are going to do

01:18:49.440 an investigation to get to the bottom of it and if it turns out the officers were wrong we will hold

01:18:54.760 them accountable but that isn't what happened all they did was jump in and instantly let him respond

01:18:59.260 because you made about three or four points yo you're fucking lying dude like yo so i'm gonna give 0.99

01:19:03.700 you uh the clip right now and you could put it in the nest i've actually seen the clip marin and even

01:19:07.960 though i have a different opinion to you on this i agree with you in terms of the first bit so if you

01:19:13.340 look at the first bit of the video and i think this is why it's really important to be honest even if

01:19:17.160 we're in disagreement uh if you look at the video what happens is he is pretty who moves towards

01:19:23.340 the ice agent because the ice agent is pushing that woman so this claim that the ice move towards

01:19:30.000 pretty is false after that i that's a different conversation obviously i'll let you go on but

01:19:34.300 that specific bit where you're saying that ice move towards press pretty is just dishonest so yeah

01:19:39.360 it's a lie and that's why like see here's the thing if i'm gonna go ahead and debate these people

01:19:43.520 we need to have uh actual uh argument based on the facts and these guys are completely omitting

01:19:48.420 an extremely critical fact as i'm on stream right now i'm literally having it play

01:19:51.840 and replay you can clearly see he pushes the woman and alex pretty puts himself in between

01:19:56.600 the agent and the woman that's when he gets pepper sprayed so for all you guys saying oh you're the

01:20:01.440 facts aren't right blah blah none of you know what you're talking about as soon as he put a hands on

01:20:05.680 the agent it was done okay the only thing there's no legal ground the only thing on the hands and the

01:20:11.080 agent is from it's that one is not fully clear because what i've we've seen it from a few angles

01:20:17.840 joe holds the position that actually uh the agent did it first and we try there's no angle from the

01:20:23.420 front i think we would know unequivocally if there was an actual angle from the front uh do you get

01:20:28.580 i'm trying to say from there where the i mean bro you can see it i'm literally replaying it on my

01:20:33.080 stream like you can see it clear as day he pushes the woman she falls to the floor and then he

01:20:36.900 immediately gets it between her and and the guy and between her and the agent and then he gets

01:20:41.640 pepper sprayed immediately after doing that so like i'm just gonna get the video up that you've

01:20:45.840 got which video are you looking at okay i'm gonna give you a link right now give me one sec i'm gonna

01:20:50.120 literally give it to you so everyone here can look because these people that i'm debating with are

01:20:53.540 fucking lying and it's annoying because it's like we're not even debating the facts anymore 0.96

01:20:56.360 they're coming up with some may believe um set of facts and circumstances that just simply

01:21:00.960 aren't true and anyone that has two sets of eyes you can see that literally um the aggressor here

01:21:07.760 was um this guy pretty coming up to the agent you can't touch a federal agent and not expect to get

01:21:13.420 you know fucked up to some degree you can't do that so give me one sec i'm gonna literally give 0.99

01:21:17.640 you it's a five second clip january 6th we're not talking about january 6th why are you moving the

01:21:23.060 goalposts to january 6th no one's talking about january 6th because it it has nothing to do with

01:21:27.840 this conversation that has absolutely that has absolutely nothing to do with our discussion

01:21:33.680 on alex pretty and immigration enforcement that has nothing to do with it so so so i just so i'm

01:21:39.680 getting the video up i just yeah i just gave it to you if you could put it in the fucking uh in the 0.94

01:21:44.080 nest so everyone that's watching this can see you can see it clear as day it's a five second clip

01:21:49.080 he pushes the woman right he pushes the woman and then alex pretty gets in between them it's clear 0.84

01:21:54.600 as day like i don't want to hear anything from these libtards they don't know what they're 1.00

01:21:57.600 talking about i'm just gonna put the tweet in the nest one second uh i'm doing it right now

01:22:03.400 and then i was gonna go through it grew through it with myron as well so so let me just um

01:22:10.400 slow-mo this so we see um basically this guy he's first of all alex pretty is hugging the first woman

01:22:18.740 and the second woman is pushing so he moves away from the first woman towards the second woman 0.99

01:22:25.400 the officer at one second now and it is pushing the woman alex pretty definitely moves towards and 0.92

01:22:32.960 this is why it's really important to be honest like i like exactly i disagree with like the net

01:22:38.000 the with the overall like what i said but like i'm always honest about what i said that i think that

01:22:43.120 impacts credibility uh so there you can see alex is uh moving towards the agent um and then

01:22:51.040 one second i'm at two seconds see wait so yeah can you see at one second myron yeah when it goes to

01:22:58.600 one second it looks like he's touching him but if you look at the other angle because the angle you

01:23:03.280 can't fully tell so it looks like in the left hand he's about to touch it him he doesn't end up

01:23:07.740 touching him with his sorry with his right hand i think it might be one second let me get this right

01:23:10.720 again uh he right i'm sorry it looks like he's gonna touch him on his right hand he does move his

01:23:16.840 left hand in between but i'm saying like it's not definite that you can tell that he pushed him

01:23:22.740 because if you look at the agent's left hand he pushes well and so i'm saying i'm a bit agnostic

01:23:27.160 he doesn't he doesn't have to push him as soon as he put hands on him it's over

01:23:30.340 it's done so i'm saying i'm saying i'm not sure if pretty actually put hands on him

01:23:35.180 and that's the bit are you trying to say even if the agent touches him first and then pretty

01:23:40.060 responds with his hands on him that then is the issue is that are you looking at the same video

01:23:46.060 i'm looking at the five second clip it literally yeah he gets in between the woman and the agent

01:23:50.980 and he puts his hand on the agent first he closes the distance agent pushes her and he gets right in

01:23:55.640 the middle we're in agreement about him closing the distance i totally agree with you on that one

01:23:59.620 that bit we're not in disagreement about and then what happens is if you look at it i paused it at one

01:24:04.320 second i don't know if it might be like one point something at that point his right hand isn't

01:24:08.660 touching the agent it looks like it may have done because just from that angle but it's actually not

01:24:13.360 touching it his left hand is now moving between the agent and the chick and then what happens is

01:24:19.300 there is left hand is moving towards it then what happens is you can see um where's it gone

01:24:26.240 the guy's left hand now you can see it touches can you see the guy's left hand is definitely touching

01:24:33.300 the agent but the agent's hand is already touching the agent look look i'm gonna be let me be very

01:24:38.040 blunt about this because i'm the only person that actually worked in law enforcement and understands

01:24:41.300 this on a very deep level as soon as you get in between a federal agent dealing with another

01:24:47.320 subject you are impeding and you committed a crime and that's what alex pretty did and then

01:24:52.700 everything that happens after that it is what it is to be there to be there protesting is one thing

01:25:00.060 but then to put your hands on a federal agent as he's dealing with another subject while you're

01:25:04.460 armed as a ccw holder is 50 iq behavior absolutely stupid okay so some iron on that just three points

01:25:12.380 so i agree with you that he moves towards the agent and i agree with you that he impedes sorry

01:25:19.120 he has no leg to stand on he impeded the agent it's over like yeah i know we can have an argument

01:25:24.980 on morality or was it the right course or whatever but from a legal perspective as soon as he did that

01:25:29.640 he forfeited all leverage done yeah and i and i think i brought a lot of people up that day to

01:25:34.580 debate you on the legal aspect and all of them kind of end up agreeing with you but i'm just saying

01:25:39.060 about this specific thing there's three aspects to it the first one is did he move towards the agent

01:25:42.960 yes he did the video clearly shows that did he impede the agent as in going between the agent and

01:25:48.420 the woman yes he did you can i'll be honest about that the third point is did he touch the agent that

01:25:53.400 one i'm agnostic about that's the only thing i'm saying okay well i mean you know you don't have to

01:25:57.820 i can see him touching the agent with his left hand but that that's or right hand i forget which

01:26:01.860 hand it is let me look at the thing again so so really quick you know i required yeah so he puts

01:26:07.560 his hand okay at two seconds you can see he has his left hand on the agent his right hand has the

01:26:14.800 phone and his left hand is i know why you're saying that i know why you're saying that because it's the

01:26:19.040 angle but actually the only way you would know if he's touching or whether it's very close to him but

01:26:23.480 not touching is if you had the angle from the front is what i'm saying okay either way him putting

01:26:28.220 his hand like that to try to get himself in between the agent and the woman is impeding

01:26:33.060 irrelevant of him touching him touching him is not necessarily required for him to impede the law

01:26:38.920 enforcement officer so uh it's kind of a moot point yeah but yeah i agree i agree so on that one i'm

01:26:45.180 saying you debated many people on this space the other day even people who vehemently disagreed with you

01:26:51.220 even joe who researched you so much and they all capitulated to your point on that and i was like

01:26:55.400 why are you capitulating you guys acting like bad men for two days so that but that's i'm not and that's

01:26:59.900 why because like these people that are arguing me jay scott and dr madavi like you guys like you guys

01:27:06.460 don't even know that alex got in between so we can't even have a rational conversation because you

01:27:11.080 guys think that the agent is the one that closes this is when it was really alex pretty and this is why

01:27:15.100 you know it's such a pain and acid debate progressives because you guys live in your own little

01:27:18.700 looney tune world where you guys aren't even going to look at visual evidence that he is the one that

01:27:23.840 impeded he impeded so he forfeits all privilege bro he forfeits so so so you keep calling us

01:27:30.060 progressive and number one um i did i will i will admit i got that wrong but dr padavi did actually

01:27:36.280 say from the start that um you know she agreed that the ice he did go up to the ice agent so she and

01:27:42.420 her not have the exact same position but but but hold on let me finish let me finish what i'm saying

01:27:47.420 let me finish what i'm saying no no because no because if you go and do a quick analysis of when

01:27:55.100 officers and agents have the right to use lethal force they have to be under the assumption that

01:28:00.440 there's a lethal threat to their life at no point did alex preddy present any form of lethal

01:28:07.060 lethal threat to the officers um you know life so there was no reason for him to be executed so

01:28:13.420 i can see to you i think it's always good to go with one item at a time rather than like okay so

01:28:19.820 first so first you guys so you guys can see that the alex preddy did initiate this and did impede so

01:28:24.400 honestly i shouldn't even be talking to you guys anymore because you already lost the debate but

01:28:27.500 let's go ahead and go through this again um so he has a gun on him okay off of that alone

01:28:33.440 okay that justifies deadly force okay um the officer didn't know that they yelled gun while

01:28:40.600 they were while they were dealing with him that was after that was after they already assaulted him 0.94

01:28:44.680 and had him on the ground if he did something illegal the first reaction should have been you

01:28:48.180 are under arrest not beating the guy up assaulting him so pepper spraying him and grabbing him by the

01:28:54.420 hand doesn't that imply that they're trying to detain him at that point and he resisted like don't you

01:28:58.420 don't know at some point don't officers say you are under arrest stop put your hands behind your

01:29:04.200 back they don't know any of that we don't know any of that and guess what they have the body cam

01:29:09.020 footage but they won't release it because they know it will only embarrass the officer and they

01:29:14.720 probably need to put criminal charges against it are you looking at the video i am looking at that

01:29:19.740 video okay at exactly four seconds what does the agent do he grabs his left hand and what does he do

01:29:25.320 he tries to put it behind his back to try to detain him as he's pepper spraying him with his right hand

01:29:30.460 now we don't know what verbal commands he gave at this point but whether he gave the verbal command

01:29:35.180 or not uh when they grab your hand and try to put it on your back of common sense individual be like

01:29:39.660 oh they're you don't know you don't know what he was trying to do there are holes that people put

01:29:44.560 people in when they're trying to do that they didn't put george floyd in handcuffs when they had

01:29:48.960 their knee on his neck so you don't know what exactly they were trying to do to him and unless the guy

01:29:54.160 says stop you are under arrest put your hands behind your back he is not he is not handling that

01:30:00.660 situation properly i will no you don't you're not law enforcement so number one you don't even you

01:30:04.360 can't even make that call now i'll tell you what he was doing he was trying to put him in what's

01:30:07.080 called a pod a position of disadvantage okay whether you go all the way and uh put handcuffs on him or not

01:30:13.480 that's irrelevant but you can see right away he pepper sprays him and tries to force him to the ground

01:30:17.580 as he grabs his left arm presumably to put his hand behind his back that's when he starts to struggle

01:30:21.800 okay law enforcement is taught whenever you have someone like this that's a male that can pose a

01:30:26.680 physical threat to you right remember he's dealing with two women and then notice how he immediately

01:30:30.160 zeros in on alex preddy after this is common law enforcement training you must deal with the biggest

01:30:34.480 threat first an able-bodied male is obviously going to be a bigger threat than two women this is why the 1.00

01:30:39.000 agent puts all his attention on preddy as he pepper sprays him and tries to bring him down to the ground

01:30:42.600 which is called the position of disadvantage okay now we could go ahead and argue about verbal commands

01:30:47.320 all the other shit which i guarantee there are probably verbal commands given here because law enforcement 0.53

01:30:51.240 is literally trained as they pepper spray you or use some type of force to give you commands as they

01:30:55.200 do it but let's assume that he's not even giving commands it doesn't matter because they're grabbing

01:30:59.580 him and trying to bring him to the ground and he resists okay then as he resists right that's when other

01:31:05.200 agents come in someone says gun all right but unbeknownst to the law enforcement officials because

01:31:10.780 there's like seven of them there someone disarms him and moves the gun away the gun goes off the other

01:31:16.340 people that were dealing with the suspect right but we don't know you're you don't know that's what

01:31:20.700 happened when you said the gun went off you're making an assumption there an investigation would

01:31:25.980 actually reveal whether there was two different guns that went off or if it was the same gun because

01:31:30.680 the analysis the analysis i've seen said all the shots came from one gun it was confirmed that the

01:31:37.340 six hour went off there was an accidental discharge the gun that he has is notorious for misfiring and

01:31:42.700 having ad's the gun went off and that is what prompted the agents to shoot also another important fact

01:31:47.840 that you guys you know are conveniently omitting here is that as alex pretty was on the floor uh

01:31:53.480 struggling with the agents he was moving his right hand in a way where they didn't know what he was

01:31:57.940 doing and the agent that shot him shot him from his left so if you see someone reaching on their right

01:32:03.620 hand side right whether they have a gun or not that's not that that doesn't matter someone could

01:32:08.760 presume after being heard after being told gun gun gun and hearing a gunshot that this might be the

01:32:14.340 firearm that they're talking about and that's why they shot him okay now we find out later that he

01:32:19.000 was reaching for a magazine or something else but you don't have to be perfect when it comes to use

01:32:23.680 of force was it reasonable for the agent to shoot given all the facts and circumstances let's go

01:32:28.500 through this he grabs an unreleased subject subject doesn't want to comply he struggles with him as

01:32:33.740 they get him down to the floor when you're but there was no orders to comply with there was no

01:32:37.820 orders to comply with marriage dude shut up dude like you're just like at this point like what 0.79

01:32:42.480 he's literally grabbing him by the arm of pepper spraying him well like come on dude let's use

01:32:46.460 some common sense here why is he pepper spraying him trying to get him to the ground like an assault

01:32:49.860 to me okay anyway um now you're just being difficult for no reason so anyway as he's down on the floor and

01:32:58.760 he's struggling the agent can't see what's going on on the right hand side because he's on his left side

01:33:03.020 he just heard the command of he just heard someone yell gun they disarmed him unbeknownst to him

01:33:07.500 a fire a shot goes off they presume oh was that the gun from this individual we need to shoot him

01:33:12.380 and that's what happened dude and look it's all based on objectable reasonableness and perception

01:33:18.680 at the time when he shot the shot the shots it was a reasonable thing to do at that time because

01:33:24.540 they did not know that he was disarmed well listen what what i will yeah yeah one second we're just

01:33:30.140 going um i am going to be wrapping up the space soon so beatrix did you have a question then if

01:33:35.360 not and then i want to bring it back to iran and then wrap up soon so go ahead beatrix yeah i just

01:33:39.920 have a few points um myron i think this is a really interesting discussion myron so i think there's a bit

01:33:48.580 of confusion around this and i'll tell you why because um whatever perspective you take on the video

01:33:55.180 because there's there's quite a few videos that have been released from different angles and i've

01:34:02.140 seen um official accounts um government accounts saying um and i'm quoting verbatim

01:34:10.060 tweet saying if you approach law enforcement with a gun there is a high likelihood they will be legally

01:34:18.940 justified in shooting you don't do it and these comments from official government accounts and

01:34:26.300 community noted saying the u.s constitution and then it says um the um and it says in brackets

01:34:36.900 particularly the second fourth and 14th amendments prohibit officers from shooting citizens

01:34:45.140 merely for possessing a weapon that is not an imminent threat this was reaffirmed in graham

01:34:53.080 versus connor which says force must be reasonable so they're actually saying it has to be an imminent

01:34:59.820 threat now personally i didn't see an imminent threat there but let's just say that's because

01:35:06.360 you're speaking from a 2020 hindsight perspective it's easy for you to say that you don't see an

01:35:09.740 imminent threat when you're looking at multiple camera angles and you have that privilege i understand

01:35:13.600 i understand let's just say let's just say what matters is this if you resist law enforcement

01:35:17.780 while armed they're going to assume that as an imminent threat done no no no no but let's just

01:35:22.740 say there's a difference of opinion there okay um your opinion is irrelevant because what matters

01:35:27.560 is the perception of the person that shoots let me just continue let's just say you're right

01:35:31.140 hypothetically it doesn't matter what your opinion is like it does not fucking matter 0.90

01:35:34.940 myron it's not my opinion i'm just giving you the community note i've got a broader point here

01:35:39.620 let's just say hypothetically there's a difference of opinion let's say they thought it was an imminent

01:35:44.440 threat or whatever it was okay that's just a for me that's a like um a side point okay let's just

01:35:51.760 say hypothetically right there was an imminent threat okay um i think the issue here is that there was

01:35:58.780 this there's quite a few mixed messages and i'll tell you what it is firstly the um for whatever reason

01:36:05.820 um the um the footage from the um the cameras of the ice agents hasn't been released okay so i think

01:36:18.560 that doesn't help there's a legal aspect spread out so differences aside okay um i think that

01:36:26.140 uh genuinely um some some other people unnamed people may be um protesting ice tactics because

01:36:35.820 u.s citizens have been arrested by ice and this is documented and they're u.s citizens and i think

01:36:45.680 the procedure is terrifying completely irrelevant i think that i think the aftermath and there's

01:36:52.000 just a few issues i think the way that the aftermath of the

01:36:56.140 it's from the leadership and and i mentioned this the other day in terms of the language the rhetoric

01:37:02.980 used i mean they could have said look you know um ice agents felt threatened by um

01:37:09.700 was best in the circumstance sorry for the family blah blah blah we're gonna have a full investigation

01:37:20.020 but what we get as the first sentence is he was a domestic terrorist which just inflames things

01:37:25.900 because some people may be agitators but people are genuinely concerned that u.s citizens are being

01:37:33.700 arrested and then on top of that mixed messages none of this matters dude yo look look look look look

01:37:39.540 like let me just finish please let me just you're making a bunch of points that have nothing to do

01:37:44.260 with the facts no no but let me just finish please just a couple of more i don't care what people

01:37:48.560 said about him being a domestic terrorist all of that is completely that's fine let me just look 0.68

01:37:53.460 why do you guys keep bringing up things that are completely irrelevant to the shooting

01:37:56.380 myron you've got an ice background right 20 20 hindsight man like we do not care about 20 20

01:38:03.060 hindsight you guys keep bringing up what was said after the fact what christy noem said what trump

01:38:07.340 said nobody gives a fuck none of that matters what matters is this what did the portable trade agent 0.53

01:38:12.220 know at the time he pulled the trigger that's the only thing that matters in this case okay

01:38:17.380 myron let me let me just finish this has been extremely painful and ridiculous because i got a bunch

01:38:23.200 of foreigners that don't understand the second amendment trying to tell me about use of force 1.00

01:38:26.720 in the united states from a law enforcement perspective i don't want to sound like an

01:38:30.200 asshole or appeal to authority but quite frankly all of you are speaking from an extremely limited

01:38:34.300 purview and none of you know what the fuck you're talking about so this has been extremely painful 0.91

01:38:38.360 for me to sit here and explain this to you guys my children and you guys still don't understand this

01:38:43.620 because this is a concept that none of you can grasp myron listen to me i've listened to you i've got a few

01:38:48.000 more points to make so there's no points that you're making you're not making any points at all

01:38:53.060 my chat is losing their minds they're listening to you guys speak and they're like why the fuck are 0.91

01:38:57.500 these women talking myron i'm happy to listen to your response but let me finish so you're not 0.99

01:39:03.460 making any points from trump this is about illegal ice can arrest your citizens ice can enforce

01:39:09.740 immigration ice was lawfully there these individuals impeded them done and the story myron let me just

01:39:16.120 finish please right so last week um trump said illegal immigrants right some of them can

01:39:24.180 yo i i'm gonna give you 20 seconds to say what you gotta say i'm gonna give you 20 seconds

01:39:29.980 say in 10 seconds last week from trump so the whole thing here is about this is what you said

01:39:38.620 people vote right they vote for this

01:39:41.640 illegal immigration last week trump gave mixed messages and said you know what those that are

01:39:50.100 working even if they're illegal okay i gotta refresh my page she's kind out

01:39:57.540 oh my god dude oh my fucking god 0.99

01:40:04.740 bro oh my fucking god dude holy shit people are stupid as fuck like this is extremely stressful 0.99

01:40:14.380 uh i don't know why twitter's acting fucking retarded let me let me close this tab yo chat 0.99

01:40:22.520 oh my god dude holy fuck like this is incredible how stupid people are 0.89

01:40:29.740 in fucking credible there is nothing worse than having triple digit iq and talking to people that 0.96

01:40:38.520 have single digit iq bro in fucking credible who um ready um if there is an attack on iran we will 0.95

01:40:50.280 start the space immediately um oh byron uh we are wrapping up is there anything you want to say the last

01:40:56.520 look man uh it it's amazing to me how everyone is talking about january 6th talking about trump

01:41:03.540 statements after christy noem statements after and none of that matters dude and the fact that

01:41:08.360 people keep moving the goalposts and aren't talking about the lawfulness of this shoot versus all these

01:41:12.640 other factors that have absolutely nothing to do with the shoot um just goes to show that quite frankly

01:41:17.940 uh a lot of you guys are in your emotions and can't process raw information um and look at things

01:41:23.660 objectively and it's actually been extremely painful um and shows me how stupid a lot of 0.82

01:41:27.620 progressives are no offense but some of you guys are fucking retarded this is incredible guys we 0.97

01:41:31.540 are going to be wrapping up the space i appreciate coming on marion appreciate every single person

01:41:35.380 who came on the space ryan dawson and fucking credible and fucking credible how stupid people 0.97

01:41:40.440 are that is fucking painful dude like i show the fucking evidence that the guy closed the gap like 0.99

01:41:49.120 how many more fucking times do i have to show that video right and they're still sitting here arguing 0.96

01:41:53.800 with me and i'm just like what niggas are retarded bro fuck holy shit let me fix my audio give me one 0.99

01:42:01.540 sec guys dude incredible give me one sec

01:42:19.120 all right there we go i think that should be

01:42:23.200 leveled right there audio should be a lot better sorry about that guys okay we're good here yeah dude

01:42:30.280 holy shit chat like that was fucking painful man that was i fucking hate stupid people dude 0.99

01:42:37.200 holy fuck man that's why dude like a lot of these progressives are fucking retards man 1.00

01:42:43.880 like they're so stupid every single person i've debated on this topic gets smoked because they 0.90

01:42:48.760 can't stick to the facts they just cannot stick to the facts bro so dumb so fucking dumb and it's 0.99

01:42:56.960 always brits it's always these fucking foreigner brits these pro-palestine retards like holy fuck 1.00

01:43:02.700 dude all right anyway uh let's read some of these chats

01:43:07.140 fucking shit man okay send her back to the kitchen where she belongs yeah the sheer inability 1.00

01:43:15.500 these people to process logic is incredible wow i'm appalled uh this bitch man yeah bro mikey says 1.00

01:43:21.340 these liberals foreigner and women are retarded keep cooking them yeah they're stupid dude land the 1.00

01:43:25.140 plane or crash it command arian i love how uh everyone arguing from the left assumes that perry was a

01:43:30.600 fucking uh retard and didn't understand basic law enforcement he was a veteran that also had a 0.99

01:43:34.920 he knew damn well what he was getting into yep uh been seeing how uh people summon netanyahu like

01:43:40.660 he's god calling him net uh where's the video alex recorded i'll it will exonerate him sure they

01:43:46.360 would release that just like they released a video of goods partner uh bro is a george floyd

01:43:50.720 sympathizer that's how you know he's low iq oh really uh please let these idiots know what an 0.91

01:43:55.160 officer has to treat physical conversation as if a gun is involved yeah bro they couldn't even

01:43:58.440 understand that what is your recommendation of vets that want to join ice uh well might be tough for

01:44:02.820 you now notice that the majority of people who celebrated kirk's death are aggressively protesting

01:44:06.460 ice or women why because women are stupid uh fear i i fucked a cuck's wife and nut in her what the 1.00

01:44:11.180 fuck husband is rich and old but she fucked me because i'm 25 w me uh bruh what the fuck okay 1.00

01:44:22.420 relax don't know if you already brought it up but apparently the u.s went into scotland and took

01:44:26.880 people maduro style uh should we m subscribe shout out to you i want to capitalize what stocks should

01:44:33.720 i be uh against before this war happens uh fear do you cheat meals or is that gay um i mean if you're 0.92

01:44:42.160 doing a prolonged diet yeah you'll probably have to do refeed days what does war mean for economy

01:44:46.680 will it get bad or does it won't affect uh us that much it'll be bad for economy oscar says um

01:44:52.800 just a question about your merch i order same merch and notice they're not using the nike

01:44:57.980 anymore the two i got with the same material as the fresh fit merch are they going back to nike

01:45:01.380 no no not no more nike hoodies they wrote us a letter they're pissed off w frank send them back 0.65

01:45:06.220 i live in a building next to america's social few blocks uh okay we're good i think we're caught up

01:45:10.080 here okay marion can you cover the sean grayson update don't throw water at cops even boiling water

01:45:14.740 um i i i last time i checked he got uh he got convicted uh that beatrix kiddo girl is notorious 1.00

01:45:24.100 for yapping yeah bro fucking retard dude brought up a whole bunch of shit that doesn't matter 0.99

01:45:27.960 like they're just completely obfuscating bring up like january 6 or whatever so stupid dude so fucking 0.98

01:45:34.940 dumb um dude i fucking hate stupid people bro hey stupid people bro woman is horrible at measuring 1.00

01:45:46.300 threats uh these are the same creatures that are dangerous but still get shit faced at three

01:45:50.040 in the morning trump said he's going to announce his fed chair replacement tomorrow morning where

01:45:54.240 should i start to become a personal trainer which agency should i get certifications from i need the

01:45:58.140 three main ones man nasm whatever but i don't suggest you become a personal trainer in person dude

01:46:01.580 you're gonna be trading time for money that just sucks um shout out to uh username on kick

01:46:07.920 with the five gifted shout out to all you guys on kick that are supporting um how long have we

01:46:14.220 been on now we've been on for hour 45 okay um let's see here so what we're gonna do guys let me see

01:46:23.540 here we're actually gonna get into the news we're gonna move on to kick guys okay doing an experiment

01:46:29.260 as you guys know we're gonna move on to kick and oss only okay uh does not make sense for me to be

01:46:35.200 on fucking youtube that much longer as you guys know i'm demonetized on this bitch uh and these 1.00

01:46:39.940 niggas are robbing me blind so uh just come on over to uh to kick we're gonna keep streaming over 1.00

01:46:46.440 there and then we're gonna finish off on oss so come on over and i don't want to have to censor

01:46:51.260 myself too it's fucking annoying having to censor myself um hassan got banned on twitch we'll talk 0.95

01:46:56.920 about that too so uh mods drop the kick link for them drop the kick link okay we are going to get

01:47:06.840 off all the platforms except kick and oss okay we are trying something new we are going to cover

01:47:13.620 soy boy kyle kolinsky's talking points because he said some wild shit and we'll come back and revisit 0.50

01:47:20.380 uh this whole thing but i'm gonna end youtube guys uh here in a second so guys come on over to kick

01:47:27.360 just click the link we're literally spamming it in the chat for you guys right now literally spamming

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The Debrief With MyronGainesX - January 30, 2026

Iran-US War, Kyle Kulinski Says ICE Assassinated Alex Pretti, And X Debating Libs On ICE!

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