The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Larry Wheels Dumped, Self Defense Attorney Discusses ChudTheBuilder Shooting, Geoplitical News

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00:26:30.000 bam and we are live what's up guys welcome to the stream i'm here with the legend

00:26:57.680 and Andrew Branca, self-defense attorney.

00:27:01.880 One of the best in the game.

00:27:04.280 He's no stranger to the show.

00:27:05.960 The best.

00:27:07.060 The best.

00:27:08.920 You know, he's been on the show a few times.

00:27:11.380 It's always an honor to have him on.

00:27:12.800 And I think with today's topic, obviously, it's trending news,

00:27:16.100 but at the same time, it's also very important.

00:27:17.800 And I think we can really take this moment to learn.

00:27:21.800 And obviously, I brought in the heavy guns.

00:27:23.400 I brought in the experts.

00:27:24.580 so we can kind of go through here this case uh but for those that don't know who you are and

00:27:29.840 i'm very familiar with you obviously you have a fantastic book um on self-defense which is in

00:27:36.040 description by the way guys please get it i put it right here in the description um but and we

00:27:40.200 give it away for free except the shipping and handling we give the book away for free

00:27:43.780 so um but yeah can you introduce yourself real quick to the people your background sure i'm an

00:27:48.820 attorney a criminal defense attorney my specialty my exclusive focus is use of force law meaning

00:27:53.920 defensive yourself, defensive others, defensive property. I don't have a general practice. I

00:27:58.360 don't do DWIs and stuff like that. All I do is basically when people shoot each other. And I've

00:28:03.360 been doing that for 35 years. And you're based out of Colorado, right? Right now, I'm actually

00:28:10.080 moving to Tennessee. Colorado's gone insane. So we're fleeing Colorado, the insanity here,

00:28:16.800 and we're moving to a gun-friendly state, Tennessee. Nice. So it's like,

00:28:22.320 chud can hire you then i guess he can hire you as his attorney because i think with something

00:28:28.460 like this man you know with the amount of notoriety this case is getting and obviously

00:28:32.060 the enormous amount of political pressure that's going to come from it um you you need the best of

00:28:36.440 the best for something like this i don't think a public defender defendant or even like you know

00:28:40.140 a paid attorney is going to be sufficient for something like this but what are your general

00:28:43.920 thoughts so i don't represent clients directly all my clients are other lawyers so chud would

00:28:50.140 need to hire lead counsel in Tennessee. And then I would be a consultant to his lead attorney. We

00:28:54.940 were talking before we went live about there's a lot of things for Chud's defense that need to

00:29:00.360 happen right now. Things that need to be secured right now. And most lawyers don't know this

00:29:05.820 self-defense law stuff. In my three years of law school, we spent less than five minutes on

00:29:09.640 self-defense law. And I would be concerned for Chud that his lawyers, no offense to them,

00:29:14.880 I don't know who they are, but there's a good chance they don't know what they need to lock

00:29:19.160 down right now and that could really damage his legal defense yeah so um so I'll quickly summarize

00:29:25.060 so for those of you that don't know I know some of you guys might not necessarily be on the internet

00:29:28.460 like that so I'll quickly summarize Judd the Builder is a you know pretty popular a social

00:29:33.120 media figure that's you know risen in popularity especially within the last two to three months

00:29:38.400 he's known for walking around um was it Nashville if I'm not mistaken Nashville mostly Nashville

00:29:44.440 So, yep. Nashville, live streaming, IRL streaming. He was on Kik, but he got banned from Kik.

00:29:49.640 And what ends up happening is he'll talk with people. He'll use a certain racial slur on YouTube.

00:29:53.840 I can't necessarily say it whenever there's an altercation. And, you know, he says, hey, well, I'm keeping free speech alive.

00:30:00.880 And obviously this has generated lots of views, lots of clicks. It goes viral every time he's out there.

00:30:06.720 You know, people, you know, it's created an enormous amount of backlash, but at the same time it's created an enormous amount of support for him as well

00:30:11.640 because he's kind of dealing with more of an underlying culture,

00:30:15.540 with an underlying problem in our culture in America

00:30:18.360 with a certain demographic.

00:30:21.520 I'll just keep it at that.

00:30:23.000 And this is why I think he's been able to rise in popularity so much

00:30:25.660 over the past several months.

00:30:27.700 But obviously we all knew at some point

00:30:29.680 there was probably going to be a physical altercation

00:30:31.200 that might lead to the use of deadly force.

00:30:33.200 And that day came a couple of days ago

00:30:34.960 where he got an altercation with an individual.

00:30:38.260 And I'll kind of go into the facts here in a little bit

00:30:40.840 and I'll let Andrew take over.

00:30:42.020 But I'm kind of summarizing for you guys what happened.

00:30:43.720 Got into altercation.

00:30:44.660 Shots were fired.

00:30:45.580 We don't know, you know, all the intimate specifics.

00:30:48.580 I do have a tweet here that kind of goes through it.

00:30:50.800 We do know that he was live streaming at the time,

00:30:52.420 and it was caught on the streaming platform that he was on,

00:30:54.720 which I think is like PumpFun for those that don't know.

00:30:56.720 It's a more obscure streaming website that utilizes tokens

00:31:00.080 and crypto trading while the streamer's live.

00:31:02.920 So it's not like it's like YouTube or Rumble or Kick

00:31:05.820 where you can go back and watch the replay.

00:31:07.100 It's a bit harder, more difficult.

00:31:08.220 uh but um but that's kind of the gist of it guys so what we're trying to figure out here

00:31:12.720 is a is a self-defense b does the propagation you know hurt his self-defense uh and three

00:31:21.780 what might happen from here based on what we know so andrew i'll just turn it to you man and you can

00:31:26.460 just kind of take lead yeah i i guess the first thing i'd like to say because of course i've been

00:31:31.900 talking about this on social media and and the heated hyper emotional responses i've been getting

00:31:38.320 back are really i i think i think they're greater than the zimmerman trial than the rittenhouse trial

00:31:44.720 people feel extremely strongly about this emotionally mostly white people are giving

00:31:49.780 me this response and i just want to say up front i understand i understand the fatigue i understand

00:31:57.600 how you all feel about this. I understand that, you know, the 5% of the population that's young

00:32:02.740 black men commit 60% of the violent crime. I understand that white people are treated far 0.95

00:32:08.740 harsher in the criminal justice system than many black people are. I've seen the same news stories

00:32:13.600 where a guy commits a violent crime and is let out a violent crime, let out 10, 12, 15 times,

00:32:19.960 and then puts a knife in the neck of a little Ukrainian girl on a train. I get it. I know 0.99

00:32:25.420 how many of you were overlooked for jobs, for college, for medical school, because a less

00:32:31.960 qualified person of a different ethnic group got that slot instead. I understand these are huge

00:32:37.300 problems. These are enormous public policy concerns that need to be addressed. We don't

00:32:43.380 live in Jim Crow anymore. I call it John Crow. It's the white people that are disadvantaged and 1.00

00:32:49.100 have been my entire adult life. We put $400 billion a year that net taxpayers in America,

00:32:57.380 which generally means white people and Asian people, effectively put $400 billion a year

00:33:03.120 into the black community. And it only gets worse. It never gets better. I mean, we would all have

00:33:07.840 flying cars. We'd be on Mars. I mean, the life we would be living if we weren't doing this.

00:33:13.020 I understand. So I just wish people would stop yelling at me about it. I get it.

00:33:17.560 but that's a different matter than doing legal analysis on a use of force event. When I do legal

00:33:23.940 analysis, I have, I turn my emotions off. I become Spock. It's completely emotionless.

00:33:29.700 And I can tell you there are, and right now we're kind of in the fog of war and the facts of this

00:33:34.460 Chud shooting. I'm hearing very different versions of the facts. It's hard to tell what's true. The

00:33:39.000 only video I've seen is just not helpful. And there are hypothetical versions of the facts

00:33:44.460 in which this is clearly lawful self-defense by Chud.

00:33:48.720 But small changes in facts lead to enormously big changes

00:33:53.020 in legal outcome in self-defense cases.

00:33:55.580 So there are small variations in the facts here

00:33:58.100 that could make this not self-defense,

00:34:00.420 that could make this attempted murder.

00:34:02.480 And if he's convicted of attempted murder,

00:34:04.320 and there's a whole area of other felonies he's charged with,

00:34:07.420 but they all follow from the attempted murder.

00:34:09.280 If he's not guilty of that, they all go away.

00:34:11.440 If he's guilty of that, they're all in too.

00:34:13.400 But attempted murder by itself is good for 60 years.

00:34:16.640 It's effectively a life sentence for a 30-year-old man if he's convicted.

00:34:21.160 The case could go either way.

00:34:23.000 It all depends upon how the facts work out.

00:34:27.000 Chud the Builder is not a friend of mine.

00:34:30.400 He's not an enemy of mine.

00:34:31.760 I have no emotional commitment in this guy one way or the other.

00:34:34.660 So when I do the legal analysis, please understand, he could be called John Smith as far as I'm concerned.

00:34:40.540 I knew nothing about this guy until a couple days ago when this shooting happened.

00:34:44.280 I don't have any animosity towards him, and I don't have any reason to lie for him.

00:34:48.380 So when I do the legal analysis, just keep that in mind.

00:34:51.320 Now, I've been talking a while.

00:34:53.900 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:34:54.720 I'm glad that you got that disclaimer out there that we're going to be as objective as possible in this legal analysis here.

00:34:59.720 You know, whether you like Charlie or you don't like him, we're going to be impartial and very fair here on this situation.

00:35:05.780 So I do have one set of facts and circumstances here that I can bring to your attention.

00:35:09.320 me and you kind of discussed it off stream um and i'll pull it up right now for everybody and uh

00:35:15.540 and obviously you said that you've heard different versions as well andrew which i'd be you know

00:35:18.780 happy to hear the versions you've heard and what we could kind of do for you guys since nobody

00:35:22.740 really knows the exact fact pattern what we could do is go through all the fact patterns for you

00:35:26.700 guys and give you guys a probable um you know a probable outcome of what would happen with each

00:35:32.680 of the different fact patterns i think that's the best that we can do here because nobody really

00:35:35.620 He knows everything.

00:35:37.200 So let me go ahead and share screen here.

00:35:38.820 This comes from Twitter guys.

00:35:41.420 Well,

00:35:41.580 I don't know why the hell.

00:35:42.920 Give me one sec.

00:35:46.820 Hold on chat.

00:35:53.260 Okay.

00:35:53.820 Perfect.

00:35:54.460 So let me boom.

00:35:57.120 Okay.

00:35:57.880 So here's a tweet that comes from a guy named Amiri King.

00:36:00.400 He's been kind of giving updates on the situation.

00:36:02.300 I think him and Chud are friends,

00:36:03.560 but he's,

00:36:05.620 Here's what he said, and this was a couple of hours ago.

00:36:07.540 Quote, Chud Update, here are some fun facts

00:36:09.620 that you'll see developing.

00:36:11.260 The entire exchange was live-streamed on PumpFun.

00:36:13.320 That's the streaming service I was telling you guys about before.

00:36:16.260 The stream shut down at the first gunshot

00:36:17.960 due to an automated AI response system.

00:36:20.720 The stream is being subpoenaed.

00:36:22.260 The facts, according to over 100 witnesses

00:36:23.920 watching the live stream,

00:36:25.660 Chud told the guy, quote,

00:36:26.880 I hope your day gets better, God bless, end quote.

00:36:29.740 Then it goes, Chud had already walked away, 0.92

00:36:31.900 was about 70 to 100 yards away.

00:36:34.420 The man went out of his way to run up on Chud while his back was turned.

00:36:38.360 He confronted Chud.

00:36:39.720 He punched Chud in the face.

00:36:41.540 Chud didn't instigate anything. 1.00

00:36:42.740 Some of you are about to look absolutely stupid. 0.99

00:36:44.820 Now, let's take our, I guess, his bias here because obviously he's his friend. 0.99

00:36:48.840 But let's assume that this fact pattern is correct and this is what actually went down.

00:36:52.000 What are your thoughts on this?

00:36:54.040 Well, I mean, that looks a lot better than some of the alternative fact patterns for sure.

00:36:58.540 So let me give people the framework that I apply when I break down any use of force case or any case I'm working on.

00:37:04.620 And I get paid a lot of money to do this. And you'll be surprised to know maybe that there's only five things you need for self-defense.

00:37:11.380 It's very simple. It's like it's like a child's jigsaw puzzle with five giant pieces.

00:37:16.860 You know, it's not the law is not complicated. And those five pieces are innocence, imminence, proportionality, avoidance and reasonableness.

00:37:24.240 That means innocence, you can't have been the initial aggressor or the person who provoked the fight.

00:37:30.740 If you do that, you lose innocence, you lose self-defense.

00:37:33.080 And by the way, all these elements are required.

00:37:35.920 If any one of them is missing, you don't have self-defense.

00:37:38.580 Whatever you did, it was not lawful self-defense.

00:37:40.380 So another way to think of these is each of these elements I'm talking about is a target of attack for the prosecutor.

00:37:45.520 So a prosecutor who knows what he's doing, he gets that investigative report from the detectives,

00:37:49.740 and he's thinking to himself, all right, I have to be able to disprove one of these beyond a

00:37:53.920 reasonable doubt, and then I win. And the reason he wins is, if you think about it, when you claim

00:37:58.700 self-defense, like Chud the Builder is going to be claiming, you're not saying it wasn't me. You're

00:38:04.000 not saying I have an alibi. I wasn't there. You're saying the opposite of that. You're saying it was

00:38:08.700 me. I shot that guy, but I did it in self-defense. Well, the prosecutor knows if he can defeat one

00:38:15.040 of those required five elements and self-defense goes away. The only thing that's left of I shot

00:38:20.340 that guy, but it was self-defense is I shot that guy. It's just a confession. So the prosecutor's

00:38:26.420 looking at these five elements to see which one looks vulnerable to being disproven beyond a

00:38:30.660 reasonable doubt. If you were the initial aggressor or the provoker, you lose innocence,

00:38:34.720 you lose self-defense. Prosecutor knows that. The next is imminence. You have to be defending

00:38:39.180 yourself against a threat that's either actually occurring in the moment or immediately about to

00:38:43.700 occur. The fist is pulled back. The guy's reaching for a weapon. It can't be something that happened

00:38:48.660 in the past. It can't be something that might happen in the future. Proportionality, and this

00:38:53.540 could be a problem for Chud, is you can only use deadly defensive force if you're facing a deadly

00:38:58.820 force threat. If you're only facing a non-deadly force threat, you can't use a gun to defend

00:39:03.720 yourself against a non-deadly force threat. And usually, a punch is going to be considered a

00:39:08.700 non-deadly force threat. So that could be an issue here. Avoidance is the fourth element that has to

00:39:14.660 do with whether or not you have a legal duty to retreat before you can defend yourself. Tennessee,

00:39:19.020 like most states, is a stand-your-ground state. So in otherwise lawful self-defense, you don't

00:39:24.240 have a legal duty to retreat. But what if the self-defense is not otherwise lawful? What if it

00:39:28.640 has some other defect? Then even in Tennessee, which was one of the first stand-your-ground

00:39:33.260 States, you can reacquire a legal duty to retreat. And then finally, reasonableness. And this is a

00:39:39.280 broad target of attack because it just asks generally, would a reasonable and prudent person

00:39:44.560 do what you did? And let's face it, anyone who's a social media provocateur is doing a lot of stuff

00:39:52.100 that's kind of outside the Overton window and does not look reasonable to a normie jury. I mean,

00:39:58.400 just imagine a typical juror in this, you know, little town in Tennessee. Most white people have

00:40:04.720 been socially conditioned their whole lives to viscerally recoil if they were to see a white guy 0.96

00:40:10.880 call a black guy the N-word to his face, right? They don't consider that normal. They don't

00:40:15.400 consider that reasonable. So that could be an issue. Now, of course, we don't know that that

00:40:19.380 happened here. So what the prosecutor is looking for is, well, if Chud provoked this fight, again,

00:40:26.440 we don't know if that happened, but if it provoked the fight, that complicates Chud's

00:40:30.160 claim of self-defense. That's a target for attack. If Chud went to the gun when a gun deadly defensive

00:40:36.360 force was disproportionate, that's the element of proportionality, vulnerable to attack. And if

00:40:41.440 Chud engaged in behavior that the prosecutor believes a typical juror in his district would

00:40:45.800 find unreasonable, that's a target for attack for the prosecutor. So it depends on how the facts

00:40:52.240 work out. If Chud provoked the confrontation, if Chud went to the gun when he shouldn't have,

00:40:57.820 if Chud acted unreasonably, well, there's only five elements of self-defense, and now three of

00:41:02.600 them are viable attacks for the prosecutor. Of course, if Chud didn't do any of that,

00:41:07.240 if the facts we just heard recounted by Amiri were, you know, he was basically innocuous,

00:41:13.060 minding his own business, got attacked from behind, didn't provoke anybody, had reason to

00:41:18.180 believe he was being threatened with a deadly force attack, which doesn't require death, but

00:41:22.900 either death or serious bodily injury. And he had reason to believe this. It wasn't speculative. It

00:41:29.540 wasn't bare fear. Well, then he's got a very solid claim of self-defense. But we can't really know

00:41:35.380 until we see evidence. We see a better video. We hear, you know, another question is, is Chud

00:41:42.000 going to testify? I mean, the best source for a lot of this evidence would be Chud's testimony

00:41:46.900 on the witness stand, which he's allowed to do. But the moment he takes the witness stand,

00:41:51.780 he's like any other witness. His character and his credibility are subject to cross-examination.

00:41:57.040 And I guarantee you, the prosecutor is going to bring up every clip from social media that he can

00:42:02.460 where Chud is saying the N-word to black people to their face. And this is not a majority black 0.99

00:42:10.620 community where this happened. Montgomery County, there's a Montgomery County in Alabama that's 80%

00:42:16.000 black, but that's not this place. Montgomery County in Tennessee is about 70% white, about

00:42:21.460 20% black. But, but that means on a jury of 12, statistically, a couple of those jurors are going

00:42:28.240 to be black people. And how are they going to receive those videos? And you might say, well,

00:42:33.900 it shouldn't matter, but, but it does matter. I mean, the, you know, we're all human, we're all

00:42:38.800 fallen human beings. And, and the criminal justice system is not some algorithm. It's not some AI

00:42:44.560 system. It's just human beings making human judgment calls. And how is Chud going to take

00:42:53.060 the witness stand and have all those videos? Imagine there's a jury panel with two black 1.00

00:42:58.300 jurors on it, and they're going to see video after video after video of Chud calling black 0.98

00:43:03.740 people the N-word, asking them if they're going to chimp out, if they're going to do the ooga-booga. 0.57

00:43:08.620 I mean, that may be funny on social media, but it's going to be a lot less funny. You know,

00:43:13.100 There's a clip that went out of his arraignment this morning in court.

00:43:18.840 And it's funny because Chud is there. 0.98

00:43:21.840 He's white.

00:43:22.900 His defense lawyer is there.

00:43:24.780 He's white.

00:43:25.320 The prosecutor is there.

00:43:26.340 He's white.

00:43:27.020 The judge is there. 0.66

00:43:28.080 He's white.

00:43:28.920 The bailiff is there. 0.96

00:43:30.500 The bailiff was one of the biggest black guys you've ever seen. 1.00

00:43:33.320 And that bailiff is just giving Chud the eye like you would not believe. 0.90

00:43:37.640 He knows who this guy is, and he's just eyeballing him.

00:43:40.500 what the this what do you think that this guy if you can see on my screen uh on the i'm not saying

00:43:48.880 i can't see it on your screen oh you can't see our discord screen if you open up our discord

00:43:51.900 screen you can see what i have shared okay let me make it bigger you mean yeah if you look at

00:43:56.960 our discord screen yeah you'll see i have it here uh oh that's the guy that's the guy i don't see

00:44:03.860 it on the discord screen but i have youtube open that that's the guy yeah so imagine that guy's on

00:44:07.980 the jury yeah uh you know so there are there are fact scenarios in which this can and should work

00:44:16.860 out well for chad he's a viable claim of self-defense if he was being innocuous non-provocative

00:44:22.000 there are scenarios in which you know if he if he we don't know if he called this guy joshua fox

00:44:29.400 is the guy who attacked him by the way there's nothing chad said or or could say that would

00:44:35.460 justify Joshua Fox punching him. No one is saying Joshua Fox was justified. But that's a completely

00:44:42.240 different legal analysis question than Chud. In fact, unless Joshua Fox was unjustified, Chud

00:44:50.400 has no hope. So we're all presuming the punch was unlawful. No question about that. It's not a

00:44:56.260 question of Joshua Fox that black people are entitled to punch you because you say the n-word. 0.97

00:45:01.360 That's not the case. I'm certainly not arguing that. It's quite possible for both these guys to be criminally liable and be convicted and go to prison. 0.95

00:45:10.100 They can both be wrong. But the question for Chud is if you provoke the confrontation under Tennessee law, you lose self-defense.

00:45:19.480 It says so right in the statute. So and I could pull up the statute here as well.

00:45:25.040 Do you remember the number by chance or no?

00:45:27.600 39 11 6 11 okay 30 because i'm a pro 39 what is it called 39 6 11 39 11 39 dash 11 dash 6 11

00:45:40.220 uh tennessee code self-defense bam here we go we got it up on i got it up on screen

00:45:46.780 um i'm on justia u.s law uh and then do you want me to is there any part of this that you want me

00:45:53.040 read it specifically or well the relevant part for provocation is paragraph e okay

00:45:59.600 right here okay the threat or use of force against another is not justified

00:46:06.520 one is not justified it's not so the important thing here is they just went through it's paragraph

00:46:12.100 e right so the prior paragraphs they went through all the things you have to do to qualify for

00:46:17.600 self-defense and that's all that innocence imminence proportion that's all those elements

00:46:21.580 and then you get to paragraph e and basically what it's saying is even if he did everything

00:46:25.600 else right even if you would otherwise qualify for lawful self-defense you don't qualify for

00:46:31.680 lawful self-defense if you provoke the confrontation and you can go ahead and read it okay so it goes

00:46:37.060 here uh the threat or use of force against another is not justified if the person at one

00:46:40.600 if the person using force consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other individual

00:46:44.980 two yeah that part doesn't matter go to paragraph two there okay two so this one will apply for us

00:46:49.520 If the person who used the force provoked the other individual's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless, A, the person who used the force abandons the encounter or clearly communicates to the other the intent to do so, and, B, the other person nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the person, or, three, to resist a halt at a roadblock, arrest, search, or stop.

00:47:11.140 Don't forget that part.

00:47:11.960 That involves a police stop.

00:47:13.380 Yeah.

00:47:13.640 So what's happening there is the statute is saying if you provoke the confrontation, you lose self-defense.

00:47:18.600 Now, you can regain self-defense, even if you're provoked it, by withdrawing from the fight.

00:47:24.320 And in good faith, you're actually trying to end the fight and communicating your withdrawal to the other party.

00:47:29.200 And what's happening there, what they're doing is they're rewarding you.

00:47:32.140 They're saying, listen, even if you provoke the fight, we'll allow you to regain self-defense if you de-escalate the fight.

00:47:38.780 If you try to end the fight you provoked, we'll give you a prize.

00:47:42.260 The prize is you get self-defense back.

00:47:44.560 But you have to do that.

00:47:45.660 You have to do the de-escalation.

00:47:47.080 Now, in Tennessee, normally you have no legal duty to retreat from a fight before you can defend yourself unless you provoked the fight.

00:47:55.600 If you provoke the fight, now you've lost self-defense unless you do what?

00:47:59.180 Withdraw from the fight, communicate your withdrawal to the other party.

00:48:03.000 Now you've reacquired a legal duty to retreat.

00:48:05.840 So one possibility here is that even if Chud did provoke, it did call this guy the N-word, got a punch for it.

00:48:11.680 Well, if after that, Chud withdrew from the fight and there's I've heard claims that he was walking away from the confrontation.

00:48:19.240 That's what they're saying here. Yeah. So that that's a possibility that Chud could have to argue.

00:48:25.160 He doesn't have to argue that unless there's a credible argument by the state that he provoked the fight in the first place.

00:48:30.640 But if there is that argument and where where might that evidence come from?

00:48:34.580 the evidence might come from this dirt bag and joshua fox i mean this wife beater this arsonist

00:48:41.560 uh he might just tell the cops yeah that guy called me the n-word what's it to him to say that

00:48:46.120 right no one controls whether or not whether it's true or not it could be a complete lie but if he

00:48:50.520 says it it's evidence that the prosecutor can use i can quickly read this right here so it says the

00:48:55.880 man the man shot the builder shot yesterday has been identified as joshua fox was charged with

00:48:59.640 aggravated domestic assault after allegedly threatening his wife with a screwdriver and

00:49:03.220 trying to burn the house down in 2024 on april 18 2024 the in clarksville tennessee officers

00:49:07.560 responded to a domestic incident at a tower drive apartment joshua fox told officers the wife would

00:49:11.760 not let him leave his wife told officers joshua was upset over vehicle issues preventing him from

00:49:15.820 leaving she claimed joshua had an aerosol can and a lighter uh and attempted to burn the house down

00:49:20.680 when she tried to take the can away they both fell to the ground she said joshua then grabbed

00:49:23.840 the screwdriver held it to her side causing her to back away and then it says here officers

00:49:27.780 located the aerosol can and screwdrivers described they deemed joshua the primary aggressor and

00:49:31.300 arrested him for aggravated domestic assault and then you can see here you know the video that did

00:49:35.500 circulate which uh you know me and you watched it beforehand uh you know this doesn't really

00:49:39.800 help at all it doesn't show you anything doesn't show anything so let me ask you this um andrew

00:49:44.000 so by the way can you imagine being low iq and hyper violent enough that you're claiming you

00:49:50.540 tried to set arson to a building because your ex-wife wouldn't let you leave ridiculous wait 0.98

00:49:54.880 she's not letting me leave i guess i'll just burn the building down around us that makes a lot of 0.90

00:49:59.280 sense yeah yeah everyone's going down if i can't leave um so you mentioned earlier andrew um that

00:50:06.240 proportionality one of the five elements of self-defense of proportionality right now

00:50:10.900 from what when i normally look at difference to every latest law i mean sorry every state is

00:50:16.380 different with their self-defense laws etc but it's um you know and then imminency is another

00:50:21.700 thing as well right wouldn't you be able to argue that getting punched in the face though might not

00:50:28.060 necessarily be you know lethal force at face value it can incapacitate you to a degree where

00:50:33.380 they can continue to assault you and it can get deadly very quickly and in that you know you're

00:50:38.680 defending yourself from getting knocked out or uh you know getting some serious bodily injury

00:50:42.840 because i've heard you know either serious bodily harm or imminent or death and serious bodily harm

00:50:48.260 i think me and you have actually i learned this from you if i'm not mistaken serious bodily harm

00:50:51.620 can be anything from like maybe a fracture on a bone it doesn't have to necessarily be deadly

00:50:54.780 so what could a punch in the face suffice for that it could right we've all seen news reports

00:51:02.100 and videos of people knocked out by one punch and they're knocked unconscious they fall they

00:51:06.620 hit their head they die here's the problem again the legal system is run by human beings right

00:51:11.880 judges see lots of fistfights come through their courts and they almost never see anyone die from

00:51:16.740 it it does happen but it's very rare statistically it's about two percent of cases and judges know

00:51:22.660 that if they say, all right, I'm going to treat every punch as if it were a deadly force attack

00:51:27.040 that you can respond to with a gun, they're turning every fistfight into a gunfight.

00:51:32.080 And they don't want to do that because they know the majority of fistfights don't end that way,

00:51:36.080 don't end with deadly force. So we can say to ourselves, well, listen, if you're the 2%, 0.98

00:51:41.540 your risk of death from that punch is 100%, right? I mean, you just got killed by that punch.

00:51:46.760 And by the way, if you get killed by the punch, then the state will call it deadly force. They'll

00:51:50.800 call the punch deadly force that doesn't help you in self-defense of course but the problem is the

00:51:55.020 law if it's if it's an how can i put it a non-aggravated punch if it's a typical fistfight

00:52:00.840 between two guys of similar strength size and fighting ability invariably the courts are going

00:52:07.140 to treat that punch that fistfight as non-deadly force you're not privileged to respond to it with

00:52:11.720 a gun now are there are there fists you can respond to with a gun yes if the fist is of a

00:52:18.060 nature that it's likely to cause death or serious bodily injury. If a young Mike Tyson is throwing

00:52:24.020 the punch, that's different. If the person throwing the punch is much larger or stronger

00:52:29.640 or has an exceptional fighting ability the defender doesn't have, that could be a punch

00:52:34.100 that's reasonably seen as more likely to cause death or serious bodily injury. If there's multiple

00:52:38.820 attackers, well, then it's all their punches, right? It's a multiplying effect. That could be

00:52:43.580 If it's a sustained beating like George Zimmerman suffered at the hands of Trayvon Martin, that's not a traditional fistfight.

00:52:50.660 And by the way, this happens a lot in the black community.

00:52:53.020 I mean, white fistfights and black fistfights are not the same. 0.95

00:52:57.120 You don't generally see a white guy knock down his opponent and then start stomping him on the head. 0.86

00:53:01.920 But we all see those videos on social media in the black community.

00:53:06.540 But the point is, before you can go to the gun, you have to have a reasonable belief that you're about to face a deadly force threat. 1.00

00:53:15.220 Can a fist meet that standard?

00:53:17.340 It can, but typically you need some kind of aggravating factor that's more than just a fist.

00:53:22.960 Size, strength, fighting ability, disparity of numbers, sustained beating.

00:53:27.680 That first-thrown punch is generally not going to be enough.

00:53:30.700 Fair enough.

00:53:31.380 Now here, there was a first-thrown punch, and then the two guys go to the ground.

00:53:35.800 I can tell that from the video, but I can't tell who's doing what.

00:53:39.540 If Joshua Fox has mounted Chud and is beating his head into the sidewalk like Trayvon Martin was doing to George Zimmerman, yeah, that looks like a deadly force attack to me.

00:53:51.120 But I just can't tell from the video if that's what's happening.

00:53:53.580 Yeah, and I like that you made that distinguishment.

00:53:57.560 Like a punch in of itself is not enough.

00:54:00.520 You need other factors in.

00:54:01.940 So, you know, for let's anyway. Well, I'll give a scenario and then we can kind of like if it's a large man and a small woman. 0.54

00:54:09.860 Yeah. I mean, any time a man's attacking a woman, generally it's kind of baked into the cake.

00:54:14.160 You have the size, strength and fighting ability disparity. 0.75

00:54:17.700 So, in other words, a woman like in the same scenario as Chud is going to be able to go up the escalation ladder way fast or justified than someone like Chud the Builder, because obviously he's an able bodied man, bigger, et cetera. 0.93

00:54:28.560 So, you know, assuming he's able bodied, I don't know if he is. 0.96

00:54:32.140 I'm assuming it.

00:54:32.960 But say, for example, the victim of the punch is someone who's on prescribed blood thinners, right? 0.85

00:54:38.500 Well, if you're on blood thinners and you take a punch to the head, it'll kill you.

00:54:41.940 I mean, you'll get a brain bleed and you'll die.

00:54:43.920 So if you're, I don't know, a 70 year old retiree on blood thinners and somebody comes up to punch you in the head and you shoot that guy, you have a credible argument that, listen, that punched maybe not to a healthy person.

00:54:56.240 But that punch, to me, that was a deadly force attack.

00:54:59.940 And therefore, I responded with deadly force.

00:55:02.520 But again, there's an aggravating factor there, the exceptional vulnerability to injury.

00:55:08.180 Yeah, and I think this is very important that people understand this, that the punch in

00:55:11.740 of itself is not enough.

00:55:12.920 However, if you add in other factors, you can quickly justify depending on if you've

00:55:18.200 got a good lawyer, there's been certain circumstances.

00:55:20.700 So let's go through with, so let's assume this fact pattern is correct.

00:55:23.840 People have to understand what you're doing is you're telling stories in court, right?

00:55:27.600 You're telling stories to the jury.

00:55:28.920 The prosecutor is telling the jury a story of guilt, and your defense attorney needs to be telling the jury a story of innocence.

00:55:35.860 Yep.

00:55:35.980 And it's all, you know, I mean, humans, all of human civilization, the best way we learn, the most compelling information we get is in the form of stories.

00:55:45.560 It's one of the reasons your defense attorney is so important, why you need a good one.

00:55:49.720 Yeah.

00:55:50.040 So let's go with this fact pattern here, and then we can explore other ones.

00:55:52.980 so this is what a hundred witnesses are saying that watch the stream live

00:55:57.240 Cho told the guy I hope your day gets better God bless and I'm assuming this and then he 0.96

00:56:01.580 Chud had already walked away so we could argue that this is a disengagement and opens up even 0.86

00:56:06.120 if he walked up and said you know f you guys drops the n-bomb etc there's an altercation

00:56:10.700 and then he says well I hope your day gets better God bless and he walks away you can argue that

00:56:14.920 that's a disengagement then he walks away says about 70 to 100 yards away the man went out of

00:56:19.100 his way to run up to chutzel he closed the distance while his back was turned he can i would

00:56:22.940 argue that's a new fight that's a new i would yeah so once you withdraw from you know you do

00:56:27.320 that withdrawal and communication even if you provoke the first fight in the first place once

00:56:31.300 once you've effectively ended that first fight by withdrawal and communication now assuming this is

00:56:36.940 true right if joshua fox then runs up behind him and attacks him that's a brand new fight that has

00:56:42.180 nothing to do with what happened before yeah and i think it's important people understand that even

00:56:46.480 if you provoke the fight if you de-escalate and disengage and then they come back and attack you

00:56:50.500 after the fact you basically get a second shot at the app a second bite at the app that's right

00:56:54.220 um because you disengaged you and then you walked away and then the person comes in and

00:56:58.880 and again i'd love to correct me if i'm wrong andrew the expert here from what i've always

00:57:02.900 looked at it like the person that closes the distance typically is the aggressor in most

00:57:07.800 situations um and then that gives you a better position to argue self-defense because you're

00:57:13.680 not they close the distance on you now you can argue well i don't want to i'm going to stand my

00:57:17.020 ground and defend myself uh because this guy came up to me so even if he did go in and be like

00:57:21.120 f you n bombs blah blah blah all this other stuff um him disengaging saying i hope your day gets

00:57:25.920 better god bless you can reasonably believe look this is uh you know him walking this is him ending

00:57:30.400 the conversation walking away then this guy closed the distance yeah so i mean on the legal merits

00:57:35.420 it's possible to imagine a scenario where the other guy closes on you and you're still the

00:57:40.140 provoker for example like if you're shouting the n-word at him continuously and he closes on you

00:57:45.340 you could still be made to look like the provoker but normally normally the position you want to be

00:57:50.020 in as a defendant in the use of force cases you don't want to look like you went to the fight

00:57:55.700 if the fight came to you it looks a lot more like self-defense than if you went to the fight

00:58:00.040 i mean one of the problems for chad is there's a video out there um maybe i can send you the link

00:58:05.380 to it please do and i'll pull it up on screen uh let's see uh yeah it's this one let me is it okay

00:58:14.000 if it's on x uh yeah yeah i'm using x for for all the stuff yeah i mean you can even share your

00:58:18.500 screen if you prefer uh i'm a boomer i don't want to screw that up so i just texted you the link

00:58:25.000 and it's where he pepper sprays this guy he's having a confrontation oh yeah i know and the

00:58:30.360 reason it's interesting is it's because he's not he's not really always defending himself with the

00:58:37.000 pepper spray it's like let me see let's see i'll let you pull it up yeah i don't know the thing i

00:58:41.840 want people to watch for here is you can use pepper spray in self-defense and there are things

00:58:46.020 this black guy he's in a confrontation with there are things this black guy is doing 1.00

00:58:49.960 that you could argue deserve pepper spray but then chudge as the black guy wanders away chud 0.98

00:58:56.760 follows him and pepper sprays him again i think when you're going to the fight it uh let's see 0.93

00:59:03.700 yeah if you open up um if you open up the discord you should be able to see uh my screen as well

00:59:12.400 and i have the video here too i could play the audio for you we can we can react to it um i don't

00:59:17.760 know what open up the discord means i i can see you and i can see me in a little window but i don't

00:59:22.340 see your shared screen um if you open that's i'm sure that's a that's a me problem yeah if you open

00:59:28.620 up discord uh like enlarge it yeah i got it as big i have a giant 4000k screen and i've got it

00:59:37.180 as big as i can make oh so you have you have one screen you only have one screen no i have three

00:59:42.360 oh try to put the discord in one screen by itself if you can make it take up one full window and

00:59:49.560 then that way you'll see me then you'll see yourself and you'll be able to also see well i i

00:59:54.620 can see it on youtube that is the video i'm talking about okay you want me to play it and

00:59:57.960 you can hear the audio yeah yeah go ahead and play it you heard me so he's got this confrontation

01:00:04.200 with this black guy here and he's gonna bring pepper spray into play the guy knocks his hat

01:00:11.500 off and he got the v-lon on what you what you're wearing your work shirt but then he follows the 0.71

01:00:16.580 guy yeah because you fast forward a little bit here so he he knocks his hat off that's right 1.00

01:00:22.780 bitch you're a bitch bro literally all you do is talk about your dick okay knocks the hat off 1.00

01:00:27.780 walks away ah i'm sorry i'm a nigger come back over here okay let's not let's come back over 1.00

01:00:33.820 here and i think once you know when someone's hands go to your face that's about as aggressive 0.99

01:00:38.200 as you can be without having a weapon in your hand so i think knocking the hat off that deserves

01:00:42.480 pepper spray yeah but then he doesn't let the guy he follows the guy down when he walked away so he

01:00:47.480 can keep right so he can keep filming for clicks and that doesn't look like self-defense anymore

01:00:52.620 yeah again touch me again i don't want to get pepper he says touch me again right i really 0.96

01:00:57.040 the guy says i don't want to get pepper sprayed you know go pick up my hat nigger you heard me 0.97

01:01:02.280 so he grabs the hat or he okay he went for the spray and then uh chud sprays him i would say 0.98

01:01:08.920 that that's legitimate to pepper spray him too he's the guy's trying to disarm him would be my

01:01:13.340 argument right it's trying to take away his defensive weapon but after he sprays him there

01:01:18.000 again he follows the guy he doesn't let the guy just walk away because he wants to keep filming

01:01:23.760 i guess yeah so he sprays him guy walks away 1.00

01:01:26.380 i thought thank you don't hit me with that shit i ain't gonna pray you that motherfucker wants to 1.00

01:01:33.020 put his hands on me again okay yeah so um here and then let me go back so okay so with this fact 0.99

01:01:39.180 pattern here assuming this is all correct would you say that he has a strong self-defense case

01:01:44.600 with this uh fact pattern assuming it's true which i for some of it yes but not for other

01:01:50.680 parts of it yeah let me read through it one more time because i know you can't see the screen

01:01:54.340 chutz told the guy i hope your day gets better god bless chet had already walked away he was

01:01:58.340 about 70 100 yards away oh this fact pattern i'm sorry i thought you're talking about the

01:02:01.280 pepper spray one not the pepper spray one this one no this fact pattern looks good it looks good

01:02:06.400 for self-defense the trouble is here's the thing yeah every time i talk i consult on a case i'm

01:02:11.440 talking to a client and the client tells me what happened and it sounds great and then i look at 0.98

01:02:16.120 the surveillance video or i look at the body and they left out all the shit that makes them look 0.94

01:02:20.360 bad right so all of this could be literally true but if they're leaving out all the bad stuff 0.65

01:02:26.980 it's not the totality of the circumstances so it you know it's a way of lying by omission right

01:02:33.660 you leave out all the bad stuff and the good stuff sounds sounds great yeah so assuming this

01:02:38.540 fact pattern because when i saw this fact pattern i said well if this is actually true i think he

01:02:41.780 has a pretty good case here um now let's all so we we talked about um individualism when it comes to

01:02:47.580 um you being attacked and how that plays a role right we gave the blood thinner example earlier

01:02:51.780 with someone like chud right would he be able to argue look i get death threats every day

01:02:55.520 people dox my address

01:02:57.480 you know people say that they

01:02:59.840 want to kill me etc we all we also

01:03:01.920 know I think it came out that this guy had made

01:03:03.880 threats to you know attack Chud now obviously

01:03:05.880 me and you had a discussion about that that he'd have to know that

01:03:07.780 beforehand but would the

01:03:09.940 fact that the guy is basically

01:03:12.060 hated by everyone I mean here's a tweet

01:03:13.800 I have here that I showed you earlier

01:03:15.100 from a rapper with 2.5

01:03:17.920 million followers saying we're quick to take 0.99

01:03:19.960 our own brothers out but this white racist dude 0.98

01:03:21.880 I keep seeing still walking around unscathed tell 1.00

01:03:23.840 buddy to come to memphis i'll figure out a way to make it justified and put buddy ass in the dirt 0.99

01:03:27.300 on my baby would with the um the virality of his antics and and uh you know enormous amount of 0.98

01:03:32.900 death threats and messages he gets uh hell even you know having famous individuals with large

01:03:37.300 followings you know call for his death on the internet would all of this play a role in him

01:03:41.760 being able to escalate the use of force ladder quicker than a normal situation yeah so it can

01:03:47.640 So the more specific the threat, the more relevant it is to his claiming a reasonable perception of the need to go to the gun.

01:03:55.740 So, for example, I don't know what Chud knew, but let's imagine that Chud knew that this particular guy, Joshua Fox, had threatened him with death. 0.99

01:04:04.500 Next time I see you, I'm going to kill you.

01:04:06.740 And Chud knows this guy made that threat and then he sees the guy on the street. 0.99

01:04:11.840 Well, that all goes to Chud's state of mind.

01:04:13.900 That's part of his reasonable evaluation of the intensity of the threat.

01:04:17.240 and whether or not he should go to the gun.

01:04:19.400 But the more general the threat becomes,

01:04:21.980 the more diffuse the reasoning becomes.

01:04:25.600 So if it's, hey, this rapper said, 1.00

01:04:27.720 one of my black fans should kill this guy, 1.00

01:04:30.180 you can't just go shoot every black person you see 1.00

01:04:32.160 because he might be a fan of that rapper 1.00

01:04:33.680 who's trying to kill you.

01:04:35.080 It becomes a much more diffuse argument.

01:04:37.340 Is it still relevant?

01:04:39.200 It could be.

01:04:40.180 I mean, you can make that argument.

01:04:41.440 You could say, listen,

01:04:42.460 I know there's a lot of black people 1.00

01:04:44.100 who are looking to kill me because of my antics. 1.00

01:04:46.040 And then I was attacked by a black person. That's different than if I was attacked by a white person. 0.99

01:04:50.220 It's a different dynamic. And then you have to try to convince those two black people on the jury of that argument. 0.91

01:04:56.340 Yeah. So because, you know, the thing I you know, when I look at this, I'm like, look, his antics might be inflammatory. 0.57

01:05:03.840 You know, obviously you can make the argument he's provoking doing X, Y, Z.

01:05:07.420 But that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have a right to defend himself, even like especially like we talked about before provocation, assuming he disengages, et cetera.

01:05:14.640 um what about just to be clear whatever his antics are he has the same right of self-defense as i

01:05:20.640 have as myron has as anybody has it's not i remember famously in the rittenhouse trial one

01:05:25.660 of the prosecutors in closing arguments argued to the jury that kyle rittenhouse should have just

01:05:29.820 taken the beating yeah sometimes you just have to take a beating no that's not true that's not the

01:05:35.260 law you have a right to defend yourself but but if he provoked a confrontation just as if i provoked

01:05:40.900 to confrontation or Myron did, you risk losing self-defense.

01:05:44.440 It's the same for all of us.

01:05:46.320 Yeah.

01:05:47.220 So we have the circumstances with, obviously, the fame,

01:05:50.020 people marking him for death, et cetera.

01:05:51.740 So he's going to be on a heightened alert,

01:05:52.880 which all goes to his benefit.

01:05:56.560 Now, from what I also understood,

01:05:58.120 and you can go ahead and give other fact patterns,

01:06:00.000 I've also heard that they went to the ground.

01:06:03.520 You know, once you go to the ground,

01:06:05.920 because apparently that's when the shots were fired,

01:06:07.580 when they were on the ground.

01:06:09.120 Now, obviously, this goes from a punch,

01:06:10.900 And you can make the argument potentially that going to the ground is an aggravating factor where, you know, and it's cool.

01:06:17.800 So crazy how self-defense for those that are listening, guys, self-defense changes millisecond by millisecond in the interaction.

01:06:22.920 It's very dynamic. It's extremely dynamic, guys.

01:06:25.440 Like we're trying to kind of give you guys different scenarios where it could be justified or not justified.

01:06:30.020 But like, you know, I love the fact that Andrew made the distinction.

01:06:32.620 Look, if you just get punched in the face by itself, that's not going to justify use of force. 0.98

01:06:37.220 However, you're Chud the Builder, you're famous, people hate you, people make death threats against you, someone punches you, then you guys go to the ground.

01:06:45.480 Well, that changes things significantly from, let's say, maybe Andrew getting punched in the face by somebody random versus him getting punched in the face and then going to the ground.

01:06:54.080 Hey, I get my share of death threats.

01:06:56.000 I'm sure, yeah. I'm sure. Me too, actually. Me too.

01:06:58.840 So would it so but like if they're on the ground, right, if you're on your back on the ground and you're mounted by a dude, he can punch you with abandon and you can't really throw a punch back because you can't you know, your elbow hits the ground.

01:07:13.600 You can't throw a full force punch. Plus, every time you get hit in the head, not only does the fist hit you in the front of the head, but the ground hits you in the back of the head.

01:07:21.840 So it's like getting punched twice every time you're struck.

01:07:25.220 It's a very vulnerable position, unless you're trained in defending yourself from that position.

01:07:30.040 I mean, if you know BJJ, there's things you can do.

01:07:32.080 But a normal person, they are in an extremely vulnerable position.

01:07:35.660 That's why George Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin, even though Trayvon Martin, they say he was unarmed.

01:07:41.220 What they mean is Trayvon Martin didn't have a weapon, a synthetic weapon like a gun or a knife.

01:07:47.060 But, of course, he was armed.

01:07:48.620 Trayvon Martin was armed with his fists, and he was armed on top of George Zimmerman,

01:07:53.600 and he was armed with the gravity of earth that let him pin Zimmerman to the ground where he could continue beating him.

01:08:00.980 So once you're on the ground, it all changes.

01:08:02.920 Yes, if Chud can articulate that same kind of dynamic, listen, I wouldn't have shot the guy except I was getting my head beat into the sidewalk.

01:08:11.720 And every time that happens, you know, you could lose consciousness in an instant.

01:08:15.220 You're suffering brain injury every time it happens.

01:08:17.580 then it's a very it's a much more robust art again he still has to deal maybe with the provocation

01:08:23.700 issue right um if it happened he still has to deal with that but if there was no provocation

01:08:28.680 then we're right to proportionality then we're on how did the dynamics of the fight change

01:08:32.680 if you're pinned to the ground now i'm not sure i don't know for sure if the shot was fired on

01:08:38.300 the ground what i see in that little video clip we have from the women in the office building

01:08:42.260 is it seems to me like that's when they go to the ground but i think the shot was fired prior i think

01:08:48.180 the women started filming because they heard a gunshot and went to their window and saw the 0.84

01:08:52.720 fight because i don't hear a gunshot in that video i hear the women's voices 0.99

01:08:56.860 yeah so you can see

01:09:00.140 they're out here and we don't know when the shots were fired yeah or we don't and we also don't know

01:09:08.880 if they went to the ground first shots were fired then they got back who knows if they this was the

01:09:13.460 second time they went down to the ground or whatever that's why the the footage is going

01:09:16.320 to be so important um or for example chud chud might be able to explain listen i i carry a gun

01:09:23.280 and this guy saw my gun so the moment he approached me he went for my gun well that's a gun fight

01:09:29.420 then it's two guys fighting over a gun and you can also by the way i am curious about one thing

01:09:34.420 i don't know if anybody knows the answer to this yeah maybe somebody in the chat does but my

01:09:38.560 understanding is chud had just come out you know a few days prior he'd been thrown out of a very

01:09:44.760 good steakhouse in nashville if you've never been there i recommend it the bobs in the omni hotel

01:09:50.120 in nashville it's it's excellent but apparently he was there having a steak and ran up a bill

01:09:56.480 and i think he was filming himself and the staff didn't like it so they asked him to leave anyway

01:10:00.420 he wouldn't leave he ended up getting arrested over that that's why he was he left he left but

01:10:05.240 But what happened was he left, but he said, I'm not going to I'm not going to pay for the bill because you guys are kicking me out like, you know.

01:10:11.220 All right. So they got him for, I guess, theft of $1,000 in disorderly conduct.

01:10:16.040 That's why he was at the courthouse.

01:10:17.880 Well, if you're in the courthouse because you have to answer a charge, how does he have a gun when he comes out of the courthouse?

01:10:25.420 Every courthouse I've ever been in, there's security.

01:10:28.060 You can't bring a gun in there.

01:10:29.960 So what he had apparently he had just come out of the courthouse.

01:10:33.800 Where the hell did the gun come from?

01:10:35.240 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if he was there for court or what happened or he was just in the area. Yeah, but I do know, yes, a couple of days prior, he had been arrested for theft of service. But the other thing I was going to say, too. So, okay. We have, we talked about proportionality. We talked about going to the ground. We talked about what about if, oh, here's something else that came up that I also heard.

01:11:03.900 apparently when they were fighting the guy said i'm going to kill you multiple times

01:11:07.180 to chud would that be considered an aggravating uh factor as well yeah because you know it's not

01:11:12.780 just a fistfight i mean most of us most of us men have been in fistfights yeah um we probably

01:11:17.720 didn't tell the other guy i'm going to kill you it was just a fistfight but if you convince the

01:11:22.280 other guy you're going to kill him now it's a deadly force fight there's no reason for him not 0.56

01:11:26.660 to go to a gun not to go to a knife to defend himself yeah and guys if you guys got questions

01:11:30.800 on self-defense specifically make sure to get him in um jock i saw your question i'll answer the

01:11:35.560 finance stuff after we finish up with with andrew i want to keep it the focus on the self-defense

01:11:39.360 stuff for now guys then once he goes and i can cover the other stuff so okay so uh have you

01:11:44.000 heard any other fact patterns besides the one i gave you where allegedly he was walking away

01:11:47.620 70 to 100 yards away this guy closed the distance on him attacked him um are there any other fact

01:11:52.820 patterns you heard i mean i'm seeing a bunch of different stuff but i i don't give it any weight

01:11:58.420 because it's normally anonymous accounts on x with 44 followers and there's no way to confirm

01:12:04.040 if they're just making stuff up or not so i have this video here we could react to it real quick

01:12:08.860 um this is the i know you might not be able to see it but you can hear the audio from this guy

01:12:12.340 uh the the person that got into a fight with him i'll play it real quick and see what what

01:12:17.220 your thoughts are yes this is my favorite filter no i don't like cats i just think the filters

01:12:22.220 though anyway for those who don't know what i'm talking about a plumber came to my apartment

01:12:27.100 today bang him on the door like he was police i got ptsd i've been arrested at this residence too

01:12:32.960 many times so i just hurry up and open up the door because they ain't even gonna kick down my 0.97

01:12:37.440 shit like they did last time anyway yeah i don't know what this music is i've noticed 0.82

01:12:49.000 he's been messing around people with his live streams oh is this him what he said okay the 0.98

01:12:53.560 District Attorney generally identified one of the men is 28-year-old Dalton Eitherly, a controversial online streamer.

01:13:00.100 Witness Grace Roberts told WSMV she recognized Eitherly right away when she saw him being wheeled away on a stretcher.

01:13:05.900 It's actually not surprising, Robertson.

01:13:07.060 It feels like it was one of those things that was about to happen.

01:13:10.760 Eitherly is known for online for approaching people in public while livestreaming using racial slurs claiming to be fighting for freedom of speech.

01:13:17.140 I've noticed for the past couple of months he's been messing around people with his livestreams.

01:13:20.060 Robert said he just knows how to really get under people's skin,

01:13:22.640 and it doesn't help when you're on camera in front of God knows how many people.

01:13:27.620 Okay, let's see.

01:13:28.600 Fast forward here.

01:13:31.100 It's not clear if either he was streaming at the time of the altercation

01:13:33.360 outside the courts, but he was arrested last weekend

01:13:34.820 after allegedly refusing to pay for an almost $400 worth of food

01:13:38.400 he ordered while live streaming north at a downtown Nashville restaurant.

01:13:42.780 Metro Nashville police say that when the restaurant asked him to stop streaming,

01:13:45.700 he started making racial statements, yelling and screaming.

01:13:47.700 took the time out of your day to come out

01:13:50.240 at your home, get dressed up, and find people to mess with

01:13:52.140 Robert said, and he's very specific here 0.99

01:13:53.560 specifically attacking black people

01:13:55.040 let me see here, is there anything else from this guy? 0.97

01:13:59.860 okay, there's nothing else with this guy

01:14:01.940 but that's him

01:14:03.420 and then this is a clip of them fighting

01:14:06.560 this is him getting wheeled on a stretcher

01:14:08.520 he got, I think he got grazed

01:14:10.000 or hit, and then, oh, do you want me to play

01:14:12.100 the audio when he talks to the cops?

01:14:14.460 that'd be good to get your reaction to that

01:14:15.880 You know, I don't think I can hear it.

01:14:18.120 Oh, you can't hear it?

01:14:18.860 I can't hear it, no, because it's delayed on YouTube,

01:14:24.520 and so I hear your voice, you know,

01:14:26.780 introducing it before I hear the actual video.

01:14:28.860 I can't figure out how to do the screen on screen in Discord.

01:14:38.520 What I could do is, you know what I'll do?

01:14:40.900 I'll just play it in full, and then you'll hear it,

01:14:42.380 and then you can kind of give us your thoughts.

01:14:44.360 Does that work?

01:14:46.840 Yeah.

01:14:47.480 Okay.

01:14:48.660 On the corner.

01:14:51.980 I'll just play in full without any interruptions, and then you can.

01:14:55.660 Walked past him.

01:14:56.440 He was sitting on the corner.

01:14:57.840 I walked up to him because they were pointing at me.

01:15:00.580 They were laughing.

01:15:01.440 They were pointing at me, and I said, what's up, guys?

01:15:03.000 What are you all doing?

01:15:04.080 I said, do you all like the new suit?

01:15:06.980 He said, walk away from me.

01:15:08.040 I walked away from him.

01:15:09.580 He came back up to me.

01:15:11.560 He literally said, I have PTSD.

01:15:13.580 I feel like I'm in. 1.00

01:15:14.560 He said, you start saying all that chimp-out shit to me, I'm going to hit you. 1.00

01:15:18.340 He hit me, started wailing on me, even after I had to defend myself by shooting him. 1.00

01:15:23.540 He's still wailing on me. 0.98

01:15:30.200 The trouble is, it's like the Amiri King fact pattern. 0.85

01:15:34.140 It's like, what's being left out, right? 0.97

01:15:35.700 Of course, the way he's telling it, it sounds great.

01:15:38.200 But I can't help but wonder, you know, what would be inserted if you actually had a transcript of the encounter?

01:15:44.200 that would make all the difference.

01:15:46.220 I keep playing it.

01:15:47.240 And again, tiny changes in facts

01:15:49.880 lead to huge changes in legal outcome

01:15:52.520 and use of force cases.

01:15:53.980 Absolutely.

01:15:54.920 Here, I'll keep playing it.

01:15:55.680 It's almost done.

01:15:56.160 It's like 10 more seconds.

01:15:57.440 Is that yours?

01:15:58.200 Yeah.

01:15:58.780 Yeah.

01:16:00.220 Oh, no, you guys are going to do your thing.

01:16:01.480 Okay.

01:16:02.420 He has a graze.

01:16:05.060 I call it a graze, the left arm.

01:16:08.180 He has slight abrasion right here on his head.

01:16:11.560 Maybe some straight lightheadedness.

01:16:14.200 okay so what are your thoughts on that i mean i think he talked way too much to the cops what

01:16:19.500 are your thoughts general thoughts on that okay so i mean if i if i shot someone in self-defense

01:16:28.320 would there be a very limited number of things i might say to the police yeah there might be

01:16:32.940 i might want to make sure that exculpatory witnesses or identified exculpatory evidence

01:16:38.280 the bad guy's knife is secured into evidence i might want to say i acted in self-defense just

01:16:43.680 to get that in the record as quickly as possible. But at that point, even me, arguably, the nation's

01:16:51.520 leading expert on use of force law, I'm shutting my mouth until my lawyer shows up. And I may not

01:16:56.460 even talk, by the way. A lot of times people say, you should tell the cops, you know, you're not

01:17:00.300 going to say anything until your lawyer shows up. I got to be honest, you shouldn't say anything

01:17:04.360 when your lawyer shows up. You should never be saying anything. Your lawyer should be doing

01:17:09.080 you're talking for you. Even if your lawyer is sitting next to you, every word you say can be

01:17:14.140 used against you in court. The better model is you whisper to your, you know, they ask you a question.

01:17:19.080 So what happened? Whisper in your lawyer's ear. He gets to recount what you said. That can't be

01:17:24.320 used against you in court. Those are his words. But you're still getting your, you know, your

01:17:29.320 message of what happened out to the investigators. Generally speaking, for most people, if they're

01:17:35.680 not sophisticated about this kind of stuff especially if deadly force was involved you're

01:17:41.920 going to get arrested anyway just comply with the arrest get cuffed up get a lawyer and let your

01:17:46.840 lawyer do your talking for you the prospects of you talking yourself out of arrest are zero

01:17:52.200 once especially if deadly force was involved you're just going to get arrested and anything

01:17:56.940 you might say to try to make your situation better is almost certainly going to make your

01:18:00.820 situation actually worse now i you know i have a theory on this um and we can kind of put our

01:18:06.680 thinking caps on i agree with you that he was more than likely going to get arrested no matter

01:18:10.520 when i think based on you know the fame how viral he is what he's doing i looked at it like you know

01:18:16.180 what dude anytime you have you know a racially sensitive case like this um between a white

01:18:21.280 person a black person there's some kind of use of force what i've realized is especially after

01:18:25.020 the whole george floyd saga most district attorney's offices and law enforcement are just

01:18:29.060 an arrest and kind of let the grand jury decide if they want to pass a trouble of indictment later

01:18:33.340 on but they'll make a problem he shot a guy in a public street however meritorious it could be

01:18:37.760 completely lawful self-defense he shot a guy on a public street outside a courthouse you're getting

01:18:43.420 arrested there is no world in which you're not getting arrested because who's dealing with you

01:18:48.440 the responding sheriff's deputies or marshals or local cops what they what ends up happening with

01:18:55.000 you is above their pay grade that's not their problem yeah what they what they have to deal

01:18:59.720 with now is you've got a gun and you just shot a guy they're just going to arrest you that's just

01:19:04.140 what they're going to do and then you become someone else's problem yeah because well and

01:19:07.920 that's kind of what i was going to say here like they don't have the and i like that you mentioned

01:19:10.800 the whole pay grade thing yeah that's going to be a prosecutor decision in higher levels of the 0.97

01:19:14.040 right of the law enforcement agency like the guy that's there wants to cover his own ass right so

01:19:18.240 he'll probably make the probable cause arrest bring you in and let it get let it get settled

01:19:22.660 And I've noticed with like these racially sensitive cases, it's almost like the law

01:19:26.720 force agency, the state attorney's office, nobody really wants the culpability of dismissing

01:19:30.900 the case.

01:19:31.560 So they'll prosecute it no matter how meritless it seems, just so that they can say, look,

01:19:36.400 well, we pushed it to grand jury and the grand jury didn't indict.

01:19:39.220 That's your own peers.

01:19:39.940 Don't be mad at us.

01:19:40.980 And I've kind of noticed this uptick in, you know, you're lucky if you get that outcome.

01:19:46.880 Yeah.

01:19:47.240 It's like, remember the Michael Brown case, the hands up, don't shoot nonsense case,

01:19:52.260 right that that this huge black guy attacked this relatively small white officer the officer shot

01:19:57.460 him and killed him that prosecutor this is in uh it was in st louis missouri i believe that 0.72

01:20:02.620 prosecutor had been the prosecutor there for like 30 plus years he'd been the prosecutor forever

01:20:08.180 and he decided you know prosecutors don't have to present the grand jury with both sides of the

01:20:13.120 case they only have to present their side of the case and get an indictment and of course that's

01:20:17.560 why it's easy for prosecutors to get an indictment anytime you only hear one side of the argument

01:20:21.380 And it sounds good. Right. But in that case, the prosecutor went to the grand jury and did something very unusual.

01:20:26.860 He presented them with both sides of the case. And the grand jury said, well, we're not going to indict this officer in the Michael Brown shooting.

01:20:35.480 And the office, that was it. That was the end of any prosecution of that officer.

01:20:38.960 That prosecutor who made that decision to tell the grand jury both sides of the story after being a prosecutor there for more than 30 years.

01:20:46.100 the next election a young black lawyer ran against him and beat him he lost his career

01:20:51.460 over that decision and every prosecutor in the country knows the story i just shared with you 0.52

01:20:56.000 so every prosecutor knows if there's a white black shooting and i decide not to go hyper

01:21:00.940 aggressive after the white guy i could lose my whole career over that decision i'm not going to 0.91

01:21:06.100 do that why would i sacrifice my career for this white guy i don't even know what he did was lawful

01:21:11.500 I don't know. Yeah. Maybe maybe he is just a murderer. Right.

01:21:14.600 He should sit in the hot seat and suffer for that decision to fire that shot.

01:21:18.500 Not me. Yeah. And I've noticed that with these cases, like it's almost like they arrest now and ask questions later and let it and just pass the buck to the to the grand jury and to a jury trial. 0.86

01:21:27.000 If it comes to that point and ultimately to the jurors. Yeah. Right.

01:21:30.720 If it gets there. So because for the you have to keep in mind, especially for racially energized cases for the prosecutor, it's a win win decision to take you to trial.

01:21:38.840 right because either they get a conviction and by the way they can get a conviction even if you're

01:21:42.680 innocent there's at least a 20 chance that you get convicted even if you did everything right

01:21:47.320 in self-defense innocent people get convicted all the time so they could get a conviction and then

01:21:51.920 they get to say to the media look i was right the whole time right the jury found them guilty

01:21:55.880 but even if they don't get a conviction like zimmerman wasn't convicted uh rittenhouse wasn't

01:22:00.860 convicted but those prosecutors get to go back to their tribe normally it's a left-wing tribe

01:22:06.440 and say listen i did everything i could yeah i fought the good fight for all of you vote for me

01:22:12.660 for re-election yeah so they win there they win the political capital game even if they don't win

01:22:17.820 the conviction yeah and it's like you know and that's kind of the problem when you're like someone

01:22:21.620 famous and there's like in its high profile it's almost as if like it's it's a guarantee you're

01:22:26.400 gonna get arrested so that they can pass the buck to somebody else and you know what i've noticed

01:22:30.360 with state cases is like they don't have they don't have any shame for losing like the feds

01:22:34.560 have shame for losing like you know the united states attorney's office prides themselves on

01:22:38.820 being you know 95 plus for for winning versus like you know these state attorneys they don't

01:22:43.940 care yeah 98 depending on the district right but like at the state level i've realized like they

01:22:48.480 have no problem with doing you know taking an incredibly sloppy case and doing it just on the

01:22:53.680 premise of well we tried we lost it is what it is they're totally okay with taking else you know

01:22:57.800 it's even it's even worse than that they'll take a terribly sloppy case a case that really doesn't

01:23:02.320 have a prospect of winning except you know the dice get thrown and you get the 20 percent bad

01:23:07.340 luck uh they'll take a case like that it could be you right it could be you and your lawyer's

01:23:12.600 telling them listen this is not a strong case for conviction don't take this to trial and they'll

01:23:16.640 say yeah but we just hired a new prosecutor and she's never done a trial case so we're going to

01:23:22.260 give her this one just so she can gain some experience we don't expect her to win but she'll

01:23:27.740 gain trial experience and who knows maybe your client will lose yeah yeah and litigating in

01:23:33.120 criminal litigating in a criminal case right is is very valuable experience guys a lot of lawyers

01:23:38.120 people forget a lot of lawyers don't even litigate so litigating and you know in criminal defense

01:23:42.480 attorneys you know litigate quite a bit and that's a skill set that a lot of lawyers actually don't

01:23:45.680 have so you know 90 percent of lawyers never litigate anything they work for corporations

01:23:50.520 or they do trusts in estates and they're never in a courtroom yeah they don't do anything which

01:23:54.580 obviously you know that increases your i've seen so many times where someone will become a public

01:24:00.960 defendant then a prosecutor then go and become maybe an ausa and then after they do all that

01:24:05.620 they have all this litigation experience then they go into the private uh world and make a

01:24:09.740 whole bunch of money because they actually understand how to argue cases in court versus

01:24:12.720 like these other armchair lawyers um so okay so let's go through this let's assume let's go into

01:24:18.000 a dream world let's say you're his lawyer what would you do what would you start uh trying how

01:24:24.560 would you start preparing for a case like this you have a high profile guy racial you know

01:24:28.840 obviously very racially charged case national headlines everyone is talking about it you know

01:24:33.380 who your guy is how would you prepare if you were his counsel well there's nothing we can do about

01:24:39.200 his baggage right all his social media stuff we can't do anything about that but what's really

01:24:44.060 important here is everything in self-defense is evaluated from the the the state of mind the

01:24:49.660 mens rea the mental state of the defender what they knew at the time they fired that shot so

01:24:55.340 it's really important to pin down as early as possible did he know this guy had this guy

01:25:00.760 threatened him what's the nature of the threats he's been getting because to the extent you can

01:25:06.200 document that that was in his mind that was in his knowledge at the time he fired the shot that's all

01:25:10.760 admissible and you can get that in front of the jury if you wait too long and you try to claim

01:25:17.340 that, it looks like you're fabricating it after the fact. And you can't prove that you had it at

01:25:22.020 the time of the possession. And I see this happen. There was a guy in Detroit who was sleeping two

01:25:27.520 o'clock in the morning. Someone tries to kick in his door, he thinks. He grabs a shotgun. And this

01:25:32.580 is Detroit. There's home invasions everywhere. He grabs a shotgun, goes to his front door,

01:25:37.500 opens it up. A figure lunges across the doorway, not into the house, but side to side. He shoots

01:25:43.760 it with the shotgun it turns out to be a drunk black girl who was just at the wrong house this 0.96

01:25:49.120 is a white guy and this white guy tried to introduce in the evidence hey i live in a

01:25:53.980 neighborhood with a lot of home invasions i thought it was a home invasion and his lawyer

01:25:57.480 tried to put a big map in front of the jury showing every home and they're everywhere and

01:26:03.640 the judge said no i'm not going to allow it because you can't demonstrate to me that your client

01:26:07.580 knew about these home invasions at the time he fired that shotgun the fact that these things

01:26:13.400 are true is not enough your client needs to know it needs to have known it at the time so one of

01:26:18.320 the thing the lawyers for chud need to be doing right now is establishing his present state of

01:26:22.820 mind what knowledge he had in his mind they don't get to do that later it'll be too late later

01:26:28.220 and i hope they're smart enough to do that how quickly because this is obviously very important

01:26:33.000 because like and i love that you mentioned that because i've told my audience this a bunch of

01:26:35.640 times right a lot of people like to armchair you know quarterback it and say well this isn't

01:26:40.400 you know this he's guilty because he provoked this blah blah blah but they never actually look

01:26:43.700 at all the factors and i've always told people like like you said earlier you know a small change

01:26:48.160 in the fact pattern can have enormous you know ramifications on the outlook of the entire case

01:26:53.380 so um you know ironing down the narrative early on is obviously very important to get their state

01:26:59.360 of mind because that will obviously dictate was if the use of force was reasonable which is like the

01:27:04.120 you know ultimate situation was it reasonable given the facts and circumstances known to the

01:27:08.280 person at the time they pulled the trigger right so exactly so my question is knowing that how

01:27:13.960 quickly do they need to get in front of their client to establish this fact pattern are we

01:27:20.480 talking within 48 hours 72 hours because obviously you need time to secure counsel um you know he's

01:27:25.220 not on bond so it's not like he's the first time he sits down with his lawyers if the lawyers are

01:27:30.200 competent to handle this case they should be doing this okay maybe not the first 15 minutes

01:27:34.240 but within the first hour yeah and this is why it's so important but the lawyers need to know

01:27:38.420 they need to do this most lawyers don't know anything about self-defense law they'll treat

01:27:42.740 it like a car accident or dwi or where these things don't matter so much and then later they'll

01:27:48.540 learn oh you know what three months from now six months from now when they go to introduce this

01:27:53.440 evidence in the court and the prosecutor says no there's no evidence he knew that at the time

01:27:57.480 and the judge says yeah that's right you can't get it in and they're like damn it if only we

01:28:02.700 had addressed this right away we'd be good and the trouble is if you take out all that personal

01:28:08.440 knowledge stuff you're literally stripping out the reason why he felt he had to go to the gun

01:28:14.620 and without that you don't have self-defense how quick does that need to be established because

01:28:18.900 obviously this is this is critical like um but for example i'll give you a perfect example it

01:28:22.680 should have happened the day after the shooting okay so within 24 literally as soon as counsels

01:28:27.560 retained that first sit down and this again for the guys that are watching this is why you don't

01:28:30.820 talk to the cops because now any discrepancy between what he tells a lawyer versus the police

01:28:35.420 is going to be exploited so imagine he told the cops yeah i've never seen this guy before 0.98

01:28:39.900 well then all that shit goes out the window yeah right yeah and i'm not saying anyone should lie 0.97

01:28:45.200 i'm not telling anyone to lie i'm just saying you lose options when you pin yourself to positions 0.98

01:28:50.700 by talking to the police yeah yeah no and that's and that's critical because um from what i

01:28:55.520 understand this guy had made threats on facebook saying you know i'm gonna find this guy i'm gonna

01:29:00.500 hurt this guy blah blah blah right and we don't know if chud knew that at the time but obviously

01:29:05.840 that makes a huge difference because if he had known that that that would that would be

01:29:10.340 like you discussed before a potential aggravating factor to justify his use of force but you're

01:29:15.180 gonna say something right so again i'm not suggesting any lawyer should advise their

01:29:19.860 client to lie right i'm not saying that but a lawyer could tell his client listen we're only

01:29:24.360 going to be able to introduce in the evidence stuff you knew at the time you fired that shot

01:29:28.820 And we did some social media research and we came across like a bunch of death threats.

01:29:35.520 Did you know that at the time? And he'll say, no, I didn't.

01:29:39.020 And the lawyer go, are you sure you didn't know this at the time?

01:29:42.740 And I'll go, oh, yeah, no, I definitely knew that. Right.

01:29:47.600 Yeah, I mean, look, that's how it could potentially go sometimes.

01:29:51.760 I mean, but like, you know, and this is why, like, this is why, like, I think the state of mind of the individual and this is why having a good lawyer is so important, because we don't know what Chud knew at the time.

01:30:02.360 We don't know if the because apparently it was a group of them and he was with a group of people, even though one person came at him. 0.99

01:30:07.620 We don't know if the people in the background say, yeah, yeah, yeah, get him, get him, kill him, kill him, kill him. 0.99

01:30:11.040 Like that could all matter, too. That would all matter. So I agree. 1.00

01:30:14.600 And, you know, and I tell people this, too. There is a reason why. Right.

01:30:18.500 When you get into a law enforcement shooting, when I was an agent back in the day, if we got in a shooting, it was common practice.

01:30:24.040 You don't talk to anyone for like 48 to 72 hours.

01:30:26.840 Then you sit down on eternal affairs and give them the full story.

01:30:30.860 As a law enforcement officer, a sworn law enforcement officer with a gun where you're carrying as a part of your job, you have the ability to utilize lethal force.

01:30:40.580 If you get in a shooting, you don't even talk for 24 to 72 hours.

01:30:43.680 and the reason why is because you have an event like that it's hard to really you know get all

01:30:48.080 the facts that you know led you to make that decision to use uh deadly force immediately so

01:30:53.080 you need to kind of get with your lawyer figure it out what did you feel at the time etc and then

01:30:56.840 you go and you sit down with internal affairs with your lawyer so and it's actually just biology so

01:31:01.860 it's not because the cops are lying but cops tend to be involved in more gunfights than normal people

01:31:08.380 and they've just learned from experience the way the way your brain captures and stores and recalls

01:31:16.140 information in the normal course of events is completely different than the way your brain

01:31:21.060 works when someone's trying to kill you your brain just doesn't work the same way the adrenaline dump

01:31:25.580 the tunnel vision and and if you were to describe immediately after the gunfight what you think

01:31:31.860 happened because you don't actually know what happened you don't see everything you know we

01:31:36.320 see these body-worn camera videos and of course we can see everything perfectly because it's a

01:31:40.100 camera but that's not the way the human eye works the human eye looks at this thing or that thing

01:31:45.420 or some other thing it's not looking at everything with clarity at the same time the the cop's eye

01:31:51.420 did not see what the body-worn camera saw those are two different things but if you recount what

01:31:56.080 happened in your gun gunfight the hour after it happened and then you tell it again 12 hours later

01:32:02.200 and 24 hours later and 48 hours later,

01:32:05.220 every one of those recountings is different.

01:32:08.280 They're different because your brain chemistry is settling.

01:32:11.160 And it's not that one of them is a lie

01:32:12.640 or even necessarily that one of them

01:32:14.180 is more accurate than the other,

01:32:15.620 but they are going to be different.

01:32:17.980 And so law enforcement has learned,

01:32:19.620 listen, if we take six stories from this guy,

01:32:21.780 we're gonna have six different stories

01:32:23.060 and it's gonna look terrible in court.

01:32:24.580 So let's let the brain chemistry settle.

01:32:27.060 Let's get one story from him.

01:32:28.920 And that's the official narrative of what happened.

01:32:31.660 I say story. I don't mean that he's lying. The one official narrative description of what happened.

01:32:36.000 Yeah. And this is why it's so important to not talk to the cops, because those discrepancies can come back and hurt you later.

01:32:41.080 So, OK, so going back to. So let's say you're you get hired on this counsel.

01:32:45.360 So step one, get the entire, I guess, narrative or get the entire what was going through your mind when you pulled that pulled pull that trigger.

01:32:55.140 Yeah. What was happening? What did you hear when you pulled the trigger? What did you see?

01:32:58.440 what did the guy tell you what did other you know and and right now because your client's talking to

01:33:03.800 you the lawyer it's everything's still kind of fluid right you have an opportunity to shape

01:33:08.500 that those recollections yeah again not lying but shaping because you can ask well were you

01:33:14.680 thinking about this or were you thinking about this or or were you perceiving that and so you're

01:33:19.180 kind of shaping your client's recollection of the narrative in a way that's favorable the biggest

01:33:23.880 trouble i have when i consult on cases is when i'm brought on late and i'm stuck with the facts

01:33:29.620 of the record and there's nothing i can do i don't have a time machine i don't get to go back and

01:33:33.940 change what someone said to the cops or what's in the official record i have to work with what they

01:33:38.820 give me i'd rather be there you know an hour after it happened and then i can help creates the wrong

01:33:45.660 word but structure yeah that narrative formulate the arguments in in a strategic manner you know

01:33:51.160 Which is, you know, obviously very important because, yeah, I mean, we're talking about something, you know, where one small little fact can change everything.

01:33:58.380 And it's very important to make sure every detail is there that, you know, because anything can change.

01:34:03.240 It's the difference between no crime was committed and 60 years in prison.

01:34:07.980 It's that. Yeah. I mean, those are the stakes. Yeah. And it's and it's really so he got a one point two five million dollar bail.

01:34:14.120 I know he has a GoFundMe. I think he has enough to probably post the bail because I think he's got to post 10 percent or whatever.

01:34:18.740 i doubt well sorry no it's it's gonna be it'll be it'll be more than so a normal bail you're

01:34:24.440 right it's 10 but when it's when the exposure for the bail bondsman is this high ah they want 10

01:34:30.400 as their fee yeah and then they want collateral for the rest gotcha what about house they won't

01:34:35.960 take your house but they'll right they'll ask you to put up your house gotcha um so okay so

01:34:42.240 By the way, this is not an insane—I mean, it's a very high bond.

01:34:47.360 I've seen it before in murder cases, attempted murder cases.

01:34:51.520 I know one of the gripe that's in the community is that they see black suspects commit worse crimes,

01:34:57.060 not attempted murder, but literally murder, literally assassination, and get like a $200,000 bail.

01:35:03.560 That's one of the legitimate grievances I talked about at the start of our show today.

01:35:08.220 This is a real concern.

01:35:09.660 This should not be happening.

01:35:10.800 but but it does happen i mean george zimmerman had a multi-million dollar bond

01:35:15.560 kyle rittenhouse had a multi-million dollar bond it's and is it because they're white guys uh

01:35:21.160 maybe because it's a politically charged event in zimmerman's case a racially charged event yeah

01:35:26.580 is that right no no it's not right but they're allowed to do this i mean i frankly i would

01:35:32.940 expect i think maybe so this is a two-stage process right now for chud so right now what

01:35:39.380 he's got his bond. There's bond and there's bail. So bail is often a kind of technical process where

01:35:45.120 reports are filed, like, is this guy a flight risk? Does he have bonds to the community?

01:35:51.680 There's an examination of facts that goes into bail. But before you get to bail, because bail

01:35:57.660 takes an arraignment, which is normally a few days later, post-arrest, bond is something you

01:36:02.700 might get right away. So it's possible they gave him a $1.25 million bond. And then when they get

01:36:08.840 to bail and they have more

01:36:10.740 facts in the record, they'll reduce the

01:36:12.760 bail. I don't

01:36:14.480 think Chud's getting out on a $1.25

01:36:16.740 million. I don't think he's

01:36:18.720 got, I don't think he has the resources to do it.

01:36:20.740 His GoFundMe has like

01:36:21.900 130, 140K in there.

01:36:25.840 He has a GoFundMe.

01:36:26.560 It's not enough. That's enough

01:36:28.700 for the 10% for the bail bondsman, but it's

01:36:30.680 not enough. How much do you think he's going to need?

01:36:32.720 It's not like total

01:36:34.000 half the remainder.

01:36:38.360 Okay.

01:36:38.840 So half a million in collateral.

01:36:41.020 He doesn't have to lose it.

01:36:42.500 Yeah.

01:36:43.120 So, again, when you pay a bail bondsman, you put up the 10 percent.

01:36:47.240 The bail bondsman keeps that 10 percent.

01:36:48.980 You never get it back.

01:36:49.740 That's his fee.

01:36:51.040 Yeah.

01:36:51.480 If he had $1.25 million himself, he could put it all up, cover his own bond.

01:36:57.560 And then as long as he shows up to court, he ends up getting it back.

01:37:01.020 Yeah.

01:37:01.800 A hundred percent.

01:37:03.340 So what I expect would happen here is he'd have to put up 10%, 125 grand, that he loses to the bail bondsman.

01:37:09.840 And then the bailsman is going to say, but I want collateral for half the million that's left over.

01:37:15.300 Yeah, gotcha.

01:37:15.860 So do you have a half-million-dollar house, or do you have a house with half-million-dollar inequity?

01:37:20.360 I mean, do you have a half-million-dollar in resources that can be collateral, that I can seize if you run?

01:37:26.580 Gotcha. Okay.

01:37:28.020 And not many people have that.

01:37:29.680 so I don't know if Chad does or not

01:37:31.660 but I would be surprised

01:37:32.780 okay so we went over

01:37:35.880 so if you were hired as the attorney

01:37:37.460 that could be his give send

01:37:39.760 go or whatever he's doing I mean if he raises

01:37:41.880 another half million

01:37:42.920 he could put that up as collateral by himself

01:37:45.780 oh no to the bail bondsman

01:37:47.760 yeah to the bail bondsman

01:37:49.600 okay so we went through

01:37:50.700 so if you were the attorney

01:37:52.480 so basically first 24 to 72 hours

01:37:55.320 you're getting all the facts from him based on

01:37:57.480 what was going on now here's my question

01:37:59.680 So he tells you everything. How are you going to convey that to the court? And then at what stage are you going to convey that to the court? Are we talking preliminary hearing you're going to go into and do this? Are we talking post indictment? When are you going to present these facts, you know, this self-defense case that your client has presented you? When do you present it to the prosecution? Pre-grand jury, after grand jury, preliminary hearing, what do you think? What's the best way to go about it?

01:38:23.720 That's a great question. So there's a lot of stages at which you can make factual arguments

01:38:29.040 to the court. You could make them at the bail hearing, saying, your honor, these are the facts

01:38:33.300 that are favorable to my client. That should reduce the bail. But remember, everything you say,

01:38:37.300 the prosecutor's hearing too. So if you're kind of giving away your strategy, your argument that

01:38:43.860 you want to present a trial, you're giving it to the prosecutor now. And the prosecutor hears it

01:38:47.140 and is like, oh crap, we have to find a counter argument to that. So often you don't want to 0.85

01:38:52.560 reveal that to the prosecutor any earlier than you have to now many states have self-defense

01:38:57.540 immunity statutes and a self-defense immunity statute is an opportunity so normally in a

01:39:03.360 self-defense case the only way to have self-defense adjudicated like this was self-defense it was not

01:39:10.260 a crime is to go through a full-blown trial but some states have self-defense immunity florida

01:39:16.340 has it a bunch of other states have it but self-defense immunity allows what's that does

01:39:21.460 tennessee have it too or no i i can check i can check let me i'll pull it up while i'm talking

01:39:26.360 um it probably does because it's a conservative state but i i can check for sure i keep a

01:39:32.860 because i do think it's important to realize that he he he was released at the scene then

01:39:37.860 he got arrested several hours later so he was free for a little bit until they came and made

01:39:41.600 the arrest but i think the arrest was more political than anything because was he in the

01:39:46.020 hospital yeah i mean he had a gunshot wound yeah he did he did go to the hospital yeah i knew they

01:39:51.200 knew where he was is what i'm saying yeah they weren't worried about being able to find them

01:39:54.900 yeah um yeah so yes so tennessee has self-defense immunity the way self-defense immunity works is

01:40:01.120 it gives you an opportunity to have your use of force be determined to be lawful self-defense

01:40:06.500 without having to go through a trial you can do it at a pre-trial hearing and that's huge because

01:40:12.020 the trial can easily be hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal expense and you might lose

01:40:17.940 And if you lose, you go to prison for the rest of your life, right?

01:40:20.640 So the ability to do this at a pretrial hearing, which is not free, but it's only a few thousand dollars.

01:40:27.020 And if you lose, you still get to make your same argument at trial.

01:40:30.560 It's not a game ender for you.

01:40:33.060 And basically what it is, it's like a mini trial before the trial.

01:40:36.460 So there's no jury, but it's before the judge.

01:40:38.740 And you get to argue to the judge, hey, these are the facts that support my claim of self-defense.

01:40:44.000 And if the judge is like, yeah, that that that sounds good to me, he can grant you immunity from prosecution and you never go to trial.

01:40:51.580 So here's my question. When does this pre-trial happen? Because obviously we got the arrest.

01:40:55.620 Looks to me like they made a probable cause arrest. I don't even know if they filed a criminal complaint.

01:40:59.360 Does this happen after they make their PC arrest? Does this come before the preliminary hearing, during the preliminary hearing, post grand jury?

01:41:05.640 After after all that, it's the last thing that would happen before you actually go to trial.

01:41:10.640 OK. All right. So you would actually still go through the entire arrest.

01:41:13.380 All the discovery is done.

01:41:15.060 Right.

01:41:15.580 Everything is done except the actual trial.

01:41:18.460 And so basically, just before you go to trial, you have the option of saying, Your Honor, we'd like a mini trial before you impanel a jury, before we do the whole full-blown thing.

01:41:27.580 And I want a day or two to explain why this is self-defense, and then the prosecution can argue against that.

01:41:33.420 And if you convince the judge who is self-defense, you never have to go to trial.

01:41:36.680 You're immunized from prosecution.

01:41:38.200 The trouble is a lot of defense lawyers don't like to do this because you're exposing your entire strategy to the prosecution at this mini trial before the trial.

01:41:50.000 And if you don't win immunity, you are going to trial.

01:41:53.620 And now the prosecution knows every argument you're going to make.

01:41:57.380 Right. They're not surprised and they can prepare counter arguments to it.

01:42:00.960 Right. Counter strategies to it.

01:42:03.360 I still think it's nice to have self-defense immunity as a option.

01:42:07.220 I – just because of the tremendous cost and risk of the trial itself, it often works, self-defense immunity, but that is the risk you're taking.

01:42:16.360 You're putting all your cards on the table before you get the trial.

01:42:19.000 Is it basically a bench trial?

01:42:20.480 Essentially, is it – the judge makes the –

01:42:22.060 It's like a mini trial.

01:42:23.120 Yeah, but it's –

01:42:24.180 Oh, and it's final.

01:42:25.680 And the judge makes the decision.

01:42:28.220 The judge – there's no jury.

01:42:29.520 The judge makes the call, right?

01:42:31.340 Wow, okay.

01:42:32.140 But if you lose, you get to argue it again to a jury.

01:42:35.600 Yeah.

01:42:35.860 Yeah.

01:42:37.220 OK, so you haven't you haven't lost anything in terms of your legal options.

01:42:40.540 But what you've lost is you don't have the option to surprise the prosecution at trial anymore.

01:42:45.700 You've shown everything. So, I mean, in self-defense is kind of one of these cases that's a bit different because this is like one of the few times where, you know, putting putting your your your guy in a stand might make a little bit of sense.

01:42:56.520 Like, do you think Chud's going to have to go to the take? It can make a lot of sense. 0.50

01:42:59.720 In a self-defense case, it's often the case that the best source of evidence that supports self-defense comes from the mouth of the defender, what they were feeling, what they were thinking, why they did what they did.

01:43:14.580 If they're not testifying, how do you get that into evidence?

01:43:17.620 That's what I was going to say.

01:43:18.360 I mean there's really no other source.

01:43:20.480 It can be very difficult.

01:43:22.200 So often you want to – normally, of course, a criminal defense attorney never wants to put their client on the stand.

01:43:27.640 But in a self-defense case, it's like, hey, listen, there's a lot of important stuff we want the jury to know that can only come from your mouth.

01:43:33.780 That's why Kyle Rittenhouse took the stand.

01:43:35.680 Yeah. Right. George Zimmerman didn't take the witness stand.

01:43:38.860 But the only reason he didn't was because the police had had him do a number of walkthroughs of the crime scene where they videotaped.

01:43:46.240 And then they the state introduced all the videotapes.

01:43:48.920 So basically, George Zimmerman got to testify like virtually without having to take the witness stand and, you know, expose himself to cross-examination.

01:43:57.680 Kyle Rittenhouse had to do three hours of cross-examination.

01:44:01.860 And that guy was, that kid, that kid, and I know Kyle Rittenhouse, by the way.

01:44:05.480 He's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

01:44:07.580 But that kid was on the witness stand for three grueling, torturous hours.

01:44:12.480 I mean, we all saw him break down, right, crying on the witness stand.

01:44:15.260 And that kid was clean as a whistle.

01:44:18.740 Imagine how many hours they would keep Chud the Builder on the witness stand,

01:44:23.660 showing him video after video.

01:44:26.080 Was this you? 0.55

01:44:26.920 calling this black guy the n-word yeah okay how about now was this you also this guy also this 1.00

01:44:32.580 150th black guy you're calling the n-word we just want to make sure this was you right 0.99

01:44:36.880 oh my god it it could be endless yeah no and and and that's yeah they could do that hopefully the

01:44:43.180 good defense attorney is going to object and make sure you know they're able to redirect or whatever

01:44:47.120 but on redirect so like okay so 24 to 72 hours get what you get get the get the information you

01:44:54.380 need obviously no more statements to the police anything else you would do if you were his lawyer

01:44:58.620 as far as like preparing um for going would you take would you in this situation would you go

01:45:04.560 ahead and do the mini trial the pre-trial with this uh you know defense immunity uh that the

01:45:09.340 state offers i probably wouldn't because i think it's it's such a politically racially charged

01:45:14.420 event remember you're asking a judge to say this guy can't be tried in front of a jury yeah that's

01:45:20.000 what the immunity hearing is and so the you're asking the judge to put a lot of skin in the game

01:45:24.860 for a white dude who calls black people the n-word to their face he doesn't want that either

01:45:29.700 i just don't see a judge doing that because the judge can just say nah i don't buy it you go in 0.95

01:45:35.120 front of a jury let the jury decide you know just pass the buck is what i would expect to happen

01:45:39.400 so in this situation with chud for him to be able to you know establish all the you know

01:45:48.160 self-defense claims that he has all the things that we discussed that might have been aggravating

01:45:51.600 factors he's basically gonna have to do it at trial is what you're saying he won't be able to

01:45:55.520 have an opportunity really to to do this uh in any other manner well there there are things he can do

01:46:03.240 that can be important pre-trial i don't know how nuts and bolts i don't want to bore the audience

01:46:07.200 no no no no my audience is higher iq they they love this stuff so you're good you can go into

01:46:11.700 the nuts and bolts a big concern with chad of course is this question of provocation right

01:46:17.000 Did he provoke the fight?

01:46:18.420 And normally, the defendant in a self-defense case can only bring into evidence things he knew about his attacker.

01:46:25.640 I had personal knowledge this guy had a long criminal record, right?

01:46:29.320 If you didn't know it, you can't bring it into evidence.

01:46:31.500 But there is an exception.

01:46:33.260 The exception is if the prosecutor attacks your claim of self-defense on that element of innocence, that you were the aggressor or you were the provoker.

01:46:42.380 that opens the door for you to introduce evidence about the other guy that you did not know

01:46:48.620 at the time because what the prosecution has done by attacking that's that's crazy so what one more

01:46:55.800 so you because this kind of goes against what we discussed before if you don't know certain things

01:47:01.520 you can't bring it you can't get it in right so this is an exception to that general rule okay

01:47:06.540 one more time with that one so so we mentioned the five elements of self-defense right one of

01:47:11.780 them is innocence. You started the fight, basically, either because you were the initial

01:47:15.560 aggressor or you provoked her. Well, that raises a question for the jury. Well, who started the

01:47:20.220 fight? So what becomes relevant is, well, who between these two guys was more likely to have

01:47:25.940 started the fight? That opens the door to admit evidence that the other guy has a history of

01:47:31.660 violence, even if you didn't know about it, because that's relevant to whether or not it was more

01:47:37.080 likely that he started the fight so what i would do if i were charged defense attorneys what i

01:47:42.360 would say listen i just want you guys to know if you're planning to attack my client on this issue

01:47:47.600 of provocation uh i'm going to bring in that other guy's entire criminal history because you'll have

01:47:53.560 opened the door to doing that and that can prevent the prosecution from bringing up the provocation

01:47:58.700 issue in the first place because they don't want that other guy's criminal history coming into the

01:48:03.700 record wow that's a bombshell that's a bombshell because in this situation you tell him listen you

01:48:13.040 you can accuse my client of provoking if you want but if you do that i'm gonna get that other guy's

01:48:18.300 entire criminal history the fact that he tried to burn down the building his ex-wife is in

01:48:21.820 that's all coming in and otherwise it wouldn't yeah yeah because i remember prosecutors will 0.97

01:48:29.080 say oh shit well then we'll attack him on other things we'll say he went to the gun too soon 0.86

01:48:34.060 we'll say he was generally being unreasonable but we're not going to bring up the provocation issue 0.99

01:48:38.580 which would be a huge win for chad that's a obviously a big point of vulnerability i would

01:48:43.280 argue that's like the linchpin is the provocation you know because they're because i think a big

01:48:48.020 reason why they went so hard at this guy and came after him is because well this guy walks around 0.75

01:48:51.920 and provokes black people all day right this is what he does that's right this is a shtick

01:48:55.280 he provokes he starts to fight it was just a matter of time he's trying to do this for clicks 0.68

01:49:00.060 and for views etc and then even in this situation right where they're saying where they're gonna

01:49:04.220 because the default assumption by everybody is he provoked this fight so even with him disengaging

01:49:09.240 they still assume now he provoked the fight whatever but what you're saying is if the

01:49:13.280 prosecution intends to bring it in which we know they're going to try to of course that's going to

01:49:16.140 be probably the cornerstone of their argument is that this guy's a propagator for clicks

01:49:19.600 the defense can counter and say okay you want to play that game we will bring in your uh we

01:49:25.140 will bring in your star witness and destroy his credibility even if our client didn't know

01:49:31.120 anything about him that's actually wow that's huge man because you know some prosecutors might say 1.00

01:49:39.560 damn my star witness is kind of a piece of shit like the guy has a criminal history uh there's 0.99

01:49:44.820 the face because i saw um social media posts where he literally was saying like yeah i'm gonna get 1.00

01:49:48.500 chud i'm gonna get rid of him blah blah so now what because the key is did chud know this let's

01:49:52.780 say you're his attorney he tells you no i honestly sorry andrew i didn't know about this stuff that 0.51

01:49:56.680 he threatened me uh that might explain why he was saying i'm gonna get you blah blah but i didn't

01:50:00.440 know that he had said this stuff about me on facebook but now the prosecutor says well we're

01:50:04.460 gonna introduce that he provokes people then you could counter oh well you know what i know that

01:50:07.800 your client or not your client i know your star witness had made posts days before threatening

01:50:12.040 that he was gonna find him and kill him and it doesn't matter that chud didn't know because now

01:50:14.920 i'm gonna use this and that might scare them from using provocation right exactly so and

01:50:20.180 And the problem is, judge lawyers would need to know this.

01:50:25.320 He needs to hire you.

01:50:26.400 Like, wow.

01:50:28.720 Most lawyers don't know this.

01:50:30.500 Most lawyers, you know, I talked to criminal defense lawyers who've had 30-year careers.

01:50:35.620 And most of their self-defense cases are bad guy cases of self-defense.

01:50:39.680 And so they've only had three or four good guy cases of self-defense in their career, like once every eight years.

01:50:46.680 You don't get good at it if you do it once every eight years.

01:50:48.980 they don't just know that they don't know this stuff because they've never encountered it

01:50:52.660 i would say but that's why people hire me no no i mean dude like you know this is this is like

01:50:58.620 that's unbelievable like and this is the importance of hiring a lawyer that i would argue right now

01:51:03.920 what you just said you just destroyed the prosecution's main argument that they're going

01:51:07.260 to use because i think a whole reason why they went after him why they made the arrest etc 0.98

01:51:11.700 obviously it's from a cover uh say you know cover your own ass from their perspective from their 0.95

01:51:16.060 perspective but i would argue that what they're also going to say is that you know this guy's a 0.97

01:51:20.680 danger community he provokes blah blah blah but on you know but this guy that he got into a fight 0.98

01:51:26.060 with is a piece of shit so that might disarm the prosecution's uh provocation argument which i 0.99

01:51:32.860 would argue is literally the underlying factor as to what they're going to go after now they have to 0.99

01:51:37.100 make a decision right do they want to give up that line of argument or they want to go forward

01:51:41.420 and then the jury gets to hear all that stuff about their star witness on cross-examination

01:51:46.480 isn't it true you said this isn't it true you did that and and it has a it has an effect of 0.99

01:51:51.940 deflating the histrionics of the defendant of chud the builder right sure he says crazy shit 0.98

01:51:57.720 but their star witness says crazy shit too maybe it's a wash with him admitting that he has ptsd 0.98

01:52:03.620 work in chud's favor i would think so i mean it would to me so if someone if someone says listen 0.99

01:52:11.940 i'm gonna i'm gonna punch you in the face and i'm crazy yeah yeah you better not you better 0.93

01:52:16.360 not say chimp out to me or else i got ptsd i think that's what something along the lines 0.99

01:52:20.460 like that was said to him on the other hand i can go the other way right if someone says listen

01:52:24.680 i'm crazy and if you say let's say it's the i'll make up a word lemon right if you say the word 0.70

01:52:31.040 lemon to me i'm gonna punch you and then you say lemon and you get a punch didn't you provoke that 0.98

01:52:37.880 punch i mean you know the other person's not acting rationally but you knew when you said 0.93

01:52:42.360 that word that a punch was going to be incoming yeah you kind of triggered it and then i mean

01:52:46.980 what would a reasonable person do i wouldn't say lemon yeah yeah or or let's assume to play devil's

01:52:53.020 advocate let's say he does punch him right and he continues to punch him after that now i think

01:52:58.580 we've established the sustained use of force that may be deadly for us. By the way, the saying of

01:53:10.460 Lemon doesn't justify the punch. The punch doesn't become lawful. It's still an unlawful punch. But

01:53:16.320 you can't say you were surprised that the punch happened. An argument can be made that you provoke

01:53:21.780 that unlawful punch. That's what I was going to say. So he punched him once. You can't pull the

01:53:26.020 gun out of shooting but if he keeps punching you you can argue that that's an aggravating factor

01:53:30.360 because now it went beyond just one punch now he's punching you more and more you can make the

01:53:34.660 argument that oh well again small changes in facts make big changes in legal outcome right 0.98

01:53:39.220 if the guy says listen i have ptsd and every time i punch someone i kill them then the punch maybe 1.00

01:53:46.420 you know say well shit i can't afford to take that punch he kills everyone he punches 0.98

01:53:50.560 it becomes a deadly force threat but again this is why it's important to have as atomic 0.99

01:53:55.960 and understanding of the facts as we can, which we don't really have now.

01:53:59.640 Yeah, apparently this guy was a veteran, too, so he served in the military, 0.96

01:54:02.300 which maybe Chud's defense can argue, oh, well, he knows how to kill people.

01:54:06.680 That's what I would argue that, even though, of course, most people in the military.

01:54:10.160 It would be weak, but it's something else.

01:54:12.020 Listen, God bless the military, but there's a lot of people in the military

01:54:14.420 who are clerks and cooks and nurses, and it's not like everyone's the pointy end of the spear.

01:54:21.200 Of course, of course.

01:54:22.000 But certainly if I were the defense lawyer, I'd say this person has military training, exceptionally lethal.

01:54:28.420 Yep. No, I mean, that's he I think Chud needs to hire you, man, at this point, because, you know, I think that right there is like I think you've just disarmed one of the big arguments that the prosecution is going to use, which I think they're going to use the provocation angle to attack him.

01:54:45.360 And one thing I can guarantee you, because I've, I've made this argument. One thing I can guarantee you is the prosecution is completely unaware that they're vulnerable on this. They're completely unaware. They would hear that argument in court in front of a judge and they'd be like, oh shit.

01:55:01.420 yeah no i uh that's that's uh that's very interesting what is the name of that that 0.95

01:55:08.780 what's that um what's the i guess legal term for you being able to bring in uh the star witnesses

01:55:15.660 background and hurt their damage it's simply that you you've you've made a material fact a material

01:55:21.740 fact of the case who started the fight and if it's a question of who started the fight then it

01:55:26.200 becomes you know the jury's allowed to consider all evidence that's relevant to a question they

01:55:30.520 have to answer and if the question is who started the fight well then people's violent prior history

01:55:34.700 becomes relevant to that question that's different than you went to the gun too early right if that

01:55:40.640 was the line of attack of proportionality is what the prosecution is attacking well that's all on

01:55:45.520 you that has nothing to do with the other party but if the question is who's more likely to have

01:55:49.720 started this fight then each party's criminal history is relevant so and before i know you

01:55:54.560 got to probably have to go here soon um but this has been awesome so let's go through with chutz

01:55:59.000 case let's kind of go through the five things and we can kind of go through what he's strong on and

01:56:03.380 what he's weak on with the five um circumstances when it comes to self-defense for his particular

01:56:08.180 case based off what we know now right so to remind i'm sure we have a completely different audience

01:56:13.460 yeah yeah you can go ahead and read an hour so for any claim of self-defense there's five elements

01:56:18.340 that you need to have that are subject to attack by a prosecutor and if he disproves any one of

01:56:22.840 them self-defense goes away and you've basically confessed to the crime it's an easy conviction

01:56:27.260 and those five elements are innocence whether or not you were the initial aggressor or provoked

01:56:32.800 to fight if you were you lose innocence you lose self-defense imminence the threat you're defending

01:56:38.280 yourself against is either actually happening or immediately about to happen i can send you

01:56:43.080 something man you don't have to no no no i'll send you a pdf i like i like to write it down

01:56:46.300 because it helps me remember it more you could get the book man i thought i gave you the book 1.00

01:56:50.100 you did but then you know some bimbo here cleaned up my spot and i i was literally looking for it 0.62

01:56:54.360 That's why we started a little bit later. 1.00

01:56:55.360 I was trying to find it.

01:56:56.780 Innocence, what was the next one is imminence, right?

01:57:00.320 Imminence, that the threat you're defending yourself is either actually happening, you're getting beat, or it's about to happen.

01:57:05.860 The fist is pulled back.

01:57:07.160 The gun is being drawn.

01:57:08.700 It can't be a past threat that's over or a future threat that may never happen.

01:57:13.320 Then we have proportionality.

01:57:14.780 You can only use deadly defensive force like a gun or a knife if you're facing a deadly force threat.

01:57:19.900 If you're only facing a non-deadly force threat, you can only use non-deadly force and self-defense.

01:57:24.840 Avoidance has to do with whether or not you have a legal duty to retreat before you can use force in self-defense.

01:57:31.340 And then reasonableness.

01:57:32.780 Did you genuinely believe in the need to act in self-defense?

01:57:36.480 And would a hypothetical, reasonable and prudent person in the same circumstances have shared that belief?

01:57:42.780 In other words, your belief is not enough.

01:57:44.560 It can't be speculative.

01:57:46.040 It can't be the result of panic or bare fear.

01:57:49.220 It has to be a reasoned belief that a reasonable and prudent person would share. 0.89

01:57:53.680 someone in the trust that he's not a lawyer hey retard he is a lawyer that don't don't he's not a 1.00

01:57:58.000 fucking consultant other people consult with him because he's the expert of self-defense idiots he 1.00

01:58:01.920 is a fucking lawyer retards do not say that shit in my chat you'll get banned um so i got sorry 1.00

01:58:06.700 i don't i don't care what people say no no because i'm not gonna let these idiots come in and lie on 1.00

01:58:11.060 you like you're a lawyer and people literally one of the best in the country and people consult with 1.00

01:58:15.280 you so fuck that idiot um so innocence eminence uh proportionality avoidance and reasonableness 1.00

01:58:20.740 are the five factors right so the big vulnerabilities for for chud here are innocence whether or not he 1.00

01:58:27.580 provoked a confrontation i don't know if that's true or not but if he did that would lose him

01:58:31.920 innocence would lose him self-defense another one arguably is proportionality did he go to the gun

01:58:37.820 too soon in the context of a fist fight that's a very fact specific question we'd have to know a

01:58:43.360 lot more about what happened what was sad what was done people were there what was being you know

01:58:47.860 So, yeah, that one is probably the most sensitive, probably.

01:58:51.300 You know, fights are dynamic, as we talked about, right?

01:58:53.160 So an instant change, right?

01:58:55.260 Maybe that guy get his hand on his throat. 0.81

01:58:57.400 Maybe an arm went around his neck.

01:58:58.920 Maybe his head hit the sidewalk. 0.94

01:59:00.720 Suddenly everything changes and going to the gun is appropriate.

01:59:03.860 But an instant before it wasn't.

01:59:05.520 That's how fact-specific it is.

01:59:07.360 And then there's the fifth element.

01:59:09.900 The final element is reasonableness.

01:59:11.800 And that's so general, but it carries so much weight.

01:59:15.200 So if you look at Tennessee's self-defense statute or any state's self-defense statute, you'll see the word reasonable, reasonableness, some variation of it everywhere.

01:59:25.760 Sometimes it happens more than once in a single sentence, and that just reflects the weight that this element gets in self-defense law.

01:59:33.920 And the trouble with reasonableness is it's a judgment call that's being made by other people after the fact, right?

01:59:42.640 So whatever you thought was reasonable in the moment, yeah, of course, I shot that guy.

01:59:46.260 I thought it was reasonable, right?

01:59:47.800 But that doesn't determine your legal fate.

01:59:50.020 That doesn't determine whether or not you get convicted.

01:59:52.320 What determines whether or not you get convicted is whether the cops and the prosecutor and

01:59:57.380 the judge, and most important, the jury, if they think it was reasonable, you could think

02:00:01.740 it was 100% reasonable.

02:00:02.860 But if the jury doesn't agree, convicted you are, and off to prison you go.

02:00:08.340 And in the moment you're defending yourself, you don't know who your jury is.

02:00:12.640 Is this why it's so critical that a lot of the times the defendant has to take the stand because only they can describe what was going through their mind, what they were experiencing, what they were smelling, what they were seeing, what was going through their mind?

02:00:24.080 Why it was reasonable.

02:00:25.560 Yeah, because like you said, everything hinges upon reasonableness, but obviously there's only one person that can take you through exactly what was going through their mind at the same time.

02:00:35.320 I saw someone out at the corner. 0.99

02:00:36.440 I say, kill him, get him, get him. 1.00

02:00:37.800 I saw I smelled gunpowder. 1.00

02:00:39.520 I saw him reaching like this and I saw what looked like a knife sheath, whatever.

02:00:43.700 Like all of these things are intimate details that, you know, no one else is really going to be able to recall.

02:00:48.640 But if you recall it and you tell them this is what was going on, then they can say, ah, if I was in your shoes, I would have shot too.

02:00:53.860 And I think that's the goal here is you need to be able to convince them that they would do the same thing if they were there.

02:00:59.000 And think about a jury, right?

02:01:00.860 Jury, they're just normal people.

02:01:02.500 They're just normal human beings, right?

02:01:04.000 And they're going to think to themselves, all right, you're saying, you're admitting, right?

02:01:08.100 you shot and killed that dude or in in chud's case you shot that guy in the belly and he lived

02:01:13.080 all right maybe that's lawful maybe that's self-defense maybe that's not a crime

02:01:17.860 but we're going to make it talk us into it you have to convince us yeah and and if you're not

02:01:24.380 willing to take the stand and explain to us why you shot that guy in the belly 0.83

02:01:28.660 you know absent a good explanation that's just a crime yeah so it was so if you're chud how do 0.96

02:01:36.840 you take the witness stand and get all those videos put into evidence i mean there's a benefit

02:01:43.540 to living a clean life yeah right if you're ever accused of a crime and you have to take the 0.99

02:01:49.560 witness stand you don't have a lot of baggage coming with you chud doesn't have that shit man 0.99

02:01:54.460 so um would you put him on the stand if you were his attorney at this point how would you go about 0.99

02:01:59.460 getting getting his getting his his test how would you go about getting his testimony in where he

02:02:03.960 actually felt in fear for his life? How would you go? Because this would be a very difficult case

02:02:08.120 to handle. If the client's not willing to take the stand, you end up, you have to rely on,

02:02:14.160 you have to stitch together eyewitness statements, things in the medical examiner's report. And then

02:02:20.420 in closing argument, you have to stitch all that together and say, listen, stitching all this

02:02:24.100 together, any reasonable person would have been in fear for their life. But it's not the same for

02:02:29.400 the jury is hearing it from the defendant. And there's a reason when the defendant testifies,

02:02:34.240 it's invariably, because in a criminal trial, the prosecution presents their case first,

02:02:39.280 and then they rest. And then the defense presents their case second. And if the defendant takes the

02:02:45.620 witness stand, it's almost invariably the last witness of the defense, meaning the last witness

02:02:50.760 of the trial. And part of that is you want it to be the most compelling testimony for the jury.

02:02:55.120 You want it to be the last thing they hear before they get their jury instructions and go into deliberations.

02:03:01.060 But part of it also for the defense is they don't want to do it.

02:03:04.640 They don't want to put their witness, their defendant on the stand.

02:03:07.480 So they're delaying as long as possible to make that call.

02:03:12.720 Okay, yeah.

02:03:13.140 So it could be a last-minute, split-second.

02:03:15.220 It's a last-minute decision.

02:03:16.860 It can be.

02:03:17.300 Okay, so fair, fair.

02:03:19.080 So I guess with the facts that you have now, you probably wouldn't put Chud on the stand.

02:03:22.240 But if, you know, if you were his attorney, it depends on how the trial goes.

02:03:26.720 There you go.

02:03:27.220 OK, every every word in the courtroom, you're looking at the jury, you're looking at their demeanor, at their expressions.

02:03:32.840 And even those of us who follow these trials when they're live streamed from the courts, you never get to see the jury.

02:03:38.180 Right. That's something we don't get to see if we're not in the courtroom.

02:03:40.720 But the lawyers get to see it and they're getting a sense of which jurors are affected by which arguments and what do we want to emphasize and not emphasize.

02:03:49.060 They're developing that over the entire course because the lawyer's exposure to the jury is only in the courtroom, right?

02:03:55.500 They've never seen these people before.

02:03:57.360 So you're kind of observing their reactions and you're watching what's happening.

02:04:01.660 And at the last moment, before the jury's instructed, the judge is going to ask one last time, counsel, do you want your client to testify?

02:04:12.500 Because we're about to wrap this up.

02:04:14.100 And then the counsel has to say either we rest or, yeah, we're going to put them on the stand.

02:04:18.540 okay it's a hard decision to make no because you never really know even with completely innocent

02:04:23.420 clients you don't know the trouble is once you put him on the witness stand he's off the leash 1.00

02:04:28.180 you have no idea what stupid shit is going to come out of his mouth once he's on a witness stand 1.00

02:04:32.760 and the prosecutor is there to goad him to taunt him that's what they did with rittenhouse right 1.00

02:04:38.740 to shame him to make him angry to make him explode and say something stupid on on the witness stand 0.98

02:04:45.880 that'll have an impact with the jury that'll lean them towards conviction. 0.99

02:04:49.060 It's very dangerous, and good prosecutors are extremely skilled at doing this.

02:04:54.020 So it's a very high-risk strategy to put your client on the witness stand.

02:04:57.640 But in a self-defense case, sometimes you just, how else are you going to get the evidence in?

02:05:02.500 Yeah, man. And in a trial, obviously, you know, hearsay is not admissible.

02:05:07.480 It has to be the actual witness to come in and testify.

02:05:09.640 So fair enough. No, man.

02:05:12.460 Okay, so I guess in closing here, so what are your thoughts on the case?

02:05:15.400 Do you think he do you think he can be saved? Do you think he's cooked? Do you think there's a there's a chance that he doesn't get cooked?

02:05:20.040 What are your general thoughts? I mean, I don't have enough facts. Right.

02:05:23.160 I can imagine facts that would be very consistent with self-defense.

02:05:26.580 It would look like a robust case of self-defense. And and a lot of those facts are amorphous.

02:05:31.520 Like we talked about, it depends on what his lawyers are pinning down right now, right now as facts.

02:05:36.880 And I can imagine a scenario in which it just – a jury will be very easy to convince that this guy, given his history, provoked his confrontation, and they just don't like him.

02:05:48.500 They don't like him.

02:05:49.480 He's outside their comfort window. 0.96

02:05:51.720 He's an a-hole, and he provoked a confrontation in which he had to shoot someone, and that's on him, and he ought to go to prison.

02:05:58.360 Yeah. 0.99

02:05:59.600 Man, okay.

02:06:00.580 So I think someone from Chad's team needs to reach out to you, man, sooner than later.

02:06:06.880 I think, you know, the bombshell you dropped earlier with the provocation was insane, you know, because that I predict that that's going to be the prosecution's main argument is this guy provokes.

02:06:18.120 He's a provocateur. He's doing it for clicks. And, you know, if they brought in their star witness, that guy's a scumbag himself.

02:06:24.860 And then we have all this other evidence where he was literally threatening to hurt Chud and everything else like that. 0.95

02:06:28.700 even if chad didn't know that prior getting that in would be really powerful i think at least to

02:06:33.440 to say that like look you know is it now this makes more sense why he might have closed the

02:06:38.940 distance and attacked them and chad was acting in self-defense so basically you're muddying up

02:06:43.560 the star witness and the the defendant at the same time but the prosecution might not want

02:06:48.520 their witness being muddied up that way yeah because the burden is on them well their case

02:06:53.320 their case being they don't care about the witness but yeah that's what i mean yeah it

02:06:56.860 would complicate their case yeah and and one last thing i want to mention before we go a lot of

02:07:00.820 people are treating this like a first amendment case like well you're in you're you're allowed

02:07:05.420 it's not a crime to say the n-word and it's not a crime to say the n-word but this is not a first

02:07:09.960 amendment case that's not what this is about yeah chud is not charged with saying bad words uh he's 0.69

02:07:16.020 charged with shooting somebody in the belly and in the context of shooting someone in the belly

02:07:19.940 if you say words that provoke a confrontation you can lose self-defense it's like if you walk into

02:07:25.160 a bank and say, I've got a bomb strapped to my body. Give me all the money. Well, you're just

02:07:30.240 saying words, right? But that doesn't mean you're not committing a bank robbery. You don't get a

02:07:34.700 free pass because words were involved. It doesn't become a First Amendment case. There's nothing

02:07:39.520 about this that is a First Amendment case. Yeah, no, I agree. It's, you know, I know that that's 0.90

02:07:45.080 what he says, like he's trying to bring free speech back. But yeah, this is going to definitely

02:07:47.860 be, you know, based on the factors you had, you know, the innocence, the imminence, the

02:07:54.960 innocence, the avoidance, which would avoidance and would avoidance even play into this?

02:07:59.960 It wouldn't, right?

02:08:00.300 Because it's Tennessee's stay in your ground.

02:08:02.380 No, no, it can, because normally in Tennessee, it's a stay in your ground state.

02:08:06.200 So in in otherwise lawful self-defense, if everything else is fine, you don't have a

02:08:10.840 legal duty to retreat.

02:08:11.780 But in Tennessee, if you provoke the confrontation, you lose self-defense unless you withdraw from the confrontation and communicate your withdrawal to the other party.

02:08:21.820 You've essentially reacquired a legal duty to retreat that you would not otherwise have had.

02:08:28.080 Yeah. So him disengaging is going to be huge if that actually happened based on what these people are saying.

02:08:33.660 Did he actually walk away and say, I hope your day gets better. God bless.

02:08:37.500 And he was 70 to 100 yards away.

02:08:39.120 If he actually did that, that obviously significantly increases the strength of his self-defense.

02:08:43.720 If he did that, by the way, when you're doing that, you have to be withdrawing in good faith. 0.98

02:08:48.440 If he's walking away and he's still shit-talking the whole time he's walking away, he's still using the N-word and all the other chimping out stuff.

02:08:57.180 If he's saying that while he's walking away, he's not really disengaging from the fight. 0.99

02:09:00.760 He's still provoking.

02:09:01.780 Oh, okay.

02:09:02.400 So you get rewarded because you're trying to genuinely prevent the fight from happening. 0.98

02:09:08.400 you're trying to genuinely de-escalate if you're walking away and talking shit you're not de-escalating 0.96

02:09:13.540 anything you're walking away like the champion gotcha and and and that would not be even 0.84

02:09:17.840 arguable you'd say that would you'd pretty much lose your you'd lose that ability it's arguable

02:09:21.900 but it's not compelling and okay fair enough what you want the argument to be is listen even if i

02:09:27.840 provoke that guy i had a bad day i was out of my mind it was a mistake but i did genuinely try to

02:09:34.040 stop the fight and walk away i did not want the fight to happen you want it needs to be as clean

02:09:38.480 as possible yeah to make at least to make the make it easier for the lawyer to argue because

02:09:42.680 anything is anything is arguable but it's like you know obviously let's make it as simple as

02:09:47.220 possible so that we can get around this hurdle especially with that situation but no i mean

02:09:51.020 that that was that was some uh fantastic legal analysis and i really appreciate

02:09:54.820 you know the impartiality before we go can we plug the book one more time absolutely man i'm

02:09:58.640 bringing it up on screen right now as you speak go ahead talk about it if you like this self-defense

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02:10:31.920 book mod spam that in the chat for me please uh let's let's make sure we hook up andrew and yeah

02:10:36.720 and i got it up on screen here they can see the book uh yeah guys reading a book like this might

02:10:40.780 save your life dude like honestly um let me see if there's any any last minute questions here for

02:10:46.320 you andrew let me see here uh okay here we go olympian 13 says uh according to grok and general

02:10:53.480 data chad has received hundreds of death threats online could this be one way that he could justify

02:10:57.660 fear for his life from the attack and that is that uh and that is the reason he pulled the gun to

02:11:01.220 defend himself it could be again the more specific the threat the more relevant it is in legal terms

02:11:07.620 so if he got a threat from this guy that would be the most powerful evidence right oh i got a threat

02:11:13.340 from this guy then this guy approaches me on the street he threatened to kill me that's why i went 0.82

02:11:17.640 to the gun that's very compelling i've gotten a threat from a bunch of black people and this guy 0.62

02:11:21.680 happened to be a black person that's much more general that's much less compelling i would still 0.90

02:11:26.340 make the argument but it's much less compelling okay fried pickle says um to all the uh people

02:11:33.280 uh racial epithets uh do not constitute fighting words per supreme court precedent uh terminale

02:11:38.340 versus chicago in 1949 uh people don't know what fighting words mean so people think fighting

02:11:44.320 words means that if you say the words someone's allowed to punch you that's not what it means it

02:11:48.720 means it has nothing to do with that uh fighting words in in supreme court jurisprudence has to do

02:11:54.080 with, if you say words, can you be criminally prosecuted for your words? It doesn't mean,

02:12:00.260 can someone else lawfully punch you? It just means you said words, are those a crime? Can

02:12:06.120 you be criminally prosecuted? And the Supreme Court has said, well, there are some words that

02:12:10.640 can be criminally prosecuted. But it's a very narrow category. It's how you get to

02:12:16.520 disorderly conduct. It has to be words that are said very directly to another specific person,

02:12:24.080 in their face, representing an imminent threat of harm, likely to incite an immediate violent

02:12:29.780 response, that can be prosecuted as disorderly conduct. That's what fighting words means. Can

02:12:35.200 you be prosecuted for the words you're saying? It has nothing to do with this notion of, if I say

02:12:40.320 these words, someone then is lawfully justified in punching me in the face. It's got nothing to

02:12:44.960 do with that. We got, Jacob here says, is this book also for self-defense in Europe? You guys

02:12:49.940 might be cooked in europe i don't know no i'm sorry it's only american self-defense law sorry

02:12:55.980 i don't know anything about european self-defense law and obviously you know america america and

02:13:00.780 every territory so dc guam samoa puerto rico uh where american law applies you you people in 0.50

02:13:08.840 europe are uh sorry you guys are cooked you guys are cooked you can't even have guns man you guys

02:13:13.640 are cooked uh in a lot of places but no andrew uh thank you so much for coming on man guys get

02:13:18.440 his book it's completely free i put the link in the chat for you guys it's also um pinned uh it's

02:13:22.940 also at the top of the description so get the book man go check him out that was a fantastic

02:13:27.720 uh discussion thank you so much for answering the questions andrew it's always good talking to you

02:13:31.200 all right man pleasure to be here i'm happy to be on anytime look forward to seeing you in person

02:13:35.040 in miami again yeah absolutely and um you know if new facts come out man we'll just jump on and

02:13:39.100 discuss it because i'm sure there's going to be i assume has a criminal complaint or any legal

02:13:43.660 document been filed in this thing yet or no yeah i think it was filed today but i haven't been able

02:13:49.420 to find it in public sources yet it's not uncommon in in local state jurisdictions especially small

02:13:54.980 counties like this for it to take a while to be online but i'll be following this case for at

02:14:00.480 length because as you say we're going to learn new facts ongoing and small changes in facts lead to

02:14:06.400 big changes in legal outcomes so absolutely i'm i don't care about chud personally again he's not

02:14:12.860 a friend of mine. He's not an enemy of mine. For me, this is just completely emotionless

02:14:16.780 legal analysis. But the legal analysis becomes a lot more robust the

02:14:20.860 more evidence you have to work with. So I'd love to see more video. I'd love to

02:14:24.940 see more witness statements. Stuff under oath, you know, where someone's

02:14:28.920 identified and you can evaluate the credibility, not just anonymous ex

02:14:32.880 stuff. But we'll get a much more robust sense of where

02:14:37.000 Chud stands the more evidence we have. All right. Andrew,

02:14:40.700 thank you so much for coming on the show guys go check him out he's also on youtube has his own

02:14:44.020 youtube channel you you live stream uh don't you live stream every day at like a certain time and

02:14:47.960 like on on social media and uh x and youtube people can and locals and uh rumble people can

02:14:54.460 find me at at the branker show okay at the branker show there you go check him out guys um the

02:15:00.380 branker show go check him out uh thank you so much for coming on andrew appreciate it man

02:15:03.600 all right man have a good night dude all right later brother bye okay w andrew

02:15:10.340 W.W. Andrew, I hope you guys enjoyed that.

02:15:14.220 You know, a lot of the similar things I've been telling you guys for a minute

02:15:16.400 when it comes to self-defense in America, 1.00

02:15:18.380 it's like I got to bring a lawyer on for all the smooth-brained idiots 1.00

02:15:21.420 that don't understand use of force. 1.00

02:15:24.000 But there were definitely some interesting things.

02:15:25.360 That's a huge bombshell that the provocation can actually be judo-flipped

02:15:30.960 on the prosecution.

02:15:34.560 So that's kind of crazy.

02:15:35.960 Guys, we're going to go ahead and get off YouTube now.

02:15:37.740 we're going to go uh over to kick and we're going to cover some news cover some um some other

02:15:42.220 current events iran war uh there's some new news with david murdoch case uh we got some things that

02:15:48.260 we're going to talk about we're going to be on for at least another two hours we got um fresh and fit

02:15:52.020 after hours um coming at like 11 so uh guys come on over to kick kick.com so that's myra gains x

02:15:56.960 now we're going to do some you know we're going to switch up we're going to cover some true crimes

02:15:59.440 some red pill stuff um a lot of stuff to to yap about um so come on over guys i am ending the

02:16:07.020 youtube stream now so come on over to kick kick.com slash myra gains x uh it looks like our guy larry

02:16:14.980 wills revealed he broke up with his supermodel wife oh man well well well so come on over guys

02:16:21.940 come on over we're gonna cover some uh as usual red pill a day keeps the simple way um we're gonna

02:16:29.640 cover some geopolitical uh things cover the news so yeah come on over guys come on over

02:16:36.300 okay come on over to kick.com slash myringainsx as you guys know i'm demonetized on youtube i know

02:16:42.880 we got a lot of new people in here that might not be familiar with why i don't stream on youtube

02:16:46.840 like that anymore um it's just not my main platform i just come on here just so give you

02:16:51.260 guys value let you guys know that we're live but uh youtube is not my main thing so i'm gonna get

02:16:55.000 off this, uh, platform. So let's go ahead guys. Come on over to kick, kick.com. Come on over.

02:17:01.140 I'm ending the YouTube stream now. And we are going to go on over to kick, which is my main

02:17:13.500 streaming platform. I still stream on rumble and OSS. Of course, OSS is the always home base,

02:17:18.240 but, uh, kick is where we are. And plus guys, kick is better than YouTube, bro. There's no ads.

02:17:25.440 There's no ads on kick, bro.

02:17:27.000 So I don't know why you guys aren't watching on kick.

02:17:30.520 Kick is 10 times better, more interactive.

02:17:32.280 You can send super chats on there.

02:17:35.360 So yeah, helps the show go, continue going.

02:17:38.400 So yeah, YouTube going down right now, guys.

02:17:40.280 Okay, come on over.

02:17:41.200 We're going to cover Larry Wheels.

02:17:42.160 We're going to cover some news.

02:17:43.220 We're going to cover Iran.

02:17:44.220 We're going to cover Russia.

02:17:45.160 There's been some developments with the Russia conflict

02:17:47.180 that we're going to talk about as well

02:17:48.380 that aren't getting put too much in the news

02:17:50.940 because of obviously the China summit.

02:17:53.980 We're going to talk about Trump left China, I think, earlier today.

02:17:57.660 So we're going to talk about all that stuff.

02:17:59.320 Post-China summit, Larry Wheels being cooked.

02:18:01.380 Sorry, breaking up with his wife, which I saw that coming.

02:18:04.200 And we're also going to talk about some developments with the Russia-Ukraine war.

02:18:09.340 Huge developments that are not hitting the mainstream because the China summit has been

02:18:12.640 taking over the news cycle.

02:18:13.920 So YouTube going down.

02:18:14.720 Come on over, guys.

02:18:18.060 All right.

02:18:18.580 Let me read some of these super chats as well.

02:18:20.060 So we got Jock says, hey, Mark, can I ask you a question?

02:18:23.380 or rather your advice regarding finance and savings and investment go ahead ask shoot the 0.77

02:18:26.320 question my friend now we're now we're free um oh also we got this thing right here this woman

02:18:35.200 was pissed off that there were no um men sorry no women where i want to cover this as well hilarious 1.00

02:18:41.420 she's so pissed off that no men were there at the summit jarheaded gave the things yep

02:18:48.460 Hong Von Tron okay how can I start

02:18:51.600 clearing for you Myron who do I talk to talk to Brett

02:18:53.560 Carmela Anthony is a hero

02:18:55.100 every person says yeah T Fred can you

02:18:57.700 argue pulling the weapon first for deterrence

02:18:59.880 uh

02:19:00.620 Rob man I mean

02:19:03.660 you'd probably have to be met with some type of force

02:19:05.680 I wish you asked that question when we were still on stream

02:19:07.860 is the book also for

02:19:09.500 no that doesn't work for Europe as much

02:19:11.040 uh Joe Birdman welcome for thank you

02:19:13.620 for so much for the 30 Sterner Dan

02:19:15.440 uh gave the uh GoFundMe how much

02:19:17.320 is how much is he raised i can't see it's too small on my end uh olympian according to grok

02:19:22.600 in general oh no got that one uh myron you know all the shots of the uh slap right them boys hired

02:19:27.740 an ex-army dude and a white dude to start a race war okay bro uh druski i haven't seen a single

02:19:31.940 person talk about this yet but right after trump left china the ci raided tulsi gabbards yeah we

02:19:35.340 did talk about it yesterday have you heard lucas gage and my spirit lives no i haven't uh all these 0.99

02:19:39.580 canadians are freaks bro jake's bar mitzvahs uh ask us to expose for making the same shit oh god 1.00

02:19:44.420 okay uh free try to fuck what anyone thinks that's from fried pickle to lie to the american 1.00

02:19:49.960 people with a straight face of the special gift l fat people yeah that's facts okay um 0.99

02:19:55.300 is it better to goy out or chimp out probably goy out my friend probably goy out uh let's see here

02:20:04.540 What else we got?

02:20:12.560 Okay.

02:20:15.940 So give me one sec, guys.

02:20:17.260 I'm just going to get some, get a protein drink.

02:20:19.980 Give me one second and just.

02:20:34.540 Thank you.

02:21:04.540 all right all right ninjas let's go ahead and cover let's cover the larry wills thing first

02:21:12.680 okay let's cover larry wills first so this news broke out not too long ago

02:21:18.240 um which is kind of insane but you know what can you expect at this point

02:21:23.000 i mean i saw it coming i mean we all saw it coming too 0.98

02:21:26.900 oh shit cuba's have on in cuban all right so cuba is going through a crisis we'll talk about cuba 0.99

02:21:35.140 Like I said before, we'll talk about Russia as well. 0.99

02:21:38.980 That hasn't really been hitting the headlines.

02:21:40.980 There have been some developments there.

02:21:55.340 Okay, let's go right here.

02:21:56.880 so as you guys all know our favorite guy larry wheels i'm assuming finally uh okay he's almost

02:22:05.820 at 200k he said uh chad the bill's almost at 200k okay what's worse the women on fnf or the youtube 0.70

02:22:12.280 chat uh the women on fnf we do got some idiots in youtube chat too though we saw i saw a lot of like 1.00

02:22:17.060 dumb dumb uh fucking primate niggas yo i'll never understand like i don't know why these like black 1.00

02:22:23.580 dudes that like hate me watch my show i'll never understand that dude like these fucking like pro 1.00

02:22:29.420 black wakanda i want reparation niggas always watch my streams bro it makes no sense to me 0.99

02:22:34.000 like if you hate me so much why the fuck are you here i don't watch people i don't like 0.97

02:22:39.700 like that's nuts to me like i would never be able to sit there and watch a streamer i dislike and 1.00

02:22:45.780 then be in the chat talking shit like you're a fucking faggot if you do that you're a fucking 1.00

02:22:50.400 faggot i'm just gonna call it out right now like i hate watching is fucking weird all right like 1.00

02:22:57.300 if you're one of these niggas that like watches me because there's a lot of you motherfuckers 1.00

02:23:00.040 lots of you fucking chimpanzee retards 1.00

02:23:03.000 watch my show just to complain and cry it's fucking weird dude and it's always faggots from 1.00

02:23:13.440 youtube anyway let's get back to the show here i'm gonna play the clip as usual guys in full 0.98

02:23:19.000 and then we'll react to it. 1.00

02:23:49.000 Nigga, you must have been a real asshole for her to give up the G-Wagon. 1.00

02:23:54.160 I mean, we're separated, but I'm soon gonna have to take care of her. 1.00

02:23:58.000 So I'll get her something nice. I'll make sure she's good.

02:24:01.380 You know, why don't you go fix that shit? 1.00

02:24:04.100 What's that? 1.00

02:24:04.840 Why don't you go fix it?

02:24:06.020 Beyond repair.

02:24:07.220 No, it's not. Go right. It's nothing beyond repair, nigga.

02:24:10.440 You just gotta go fix it. Nigga, is it worth fixing, or are you cool being you? 1.00

02:24:14.420 It's beyond repair, man. Beyond repair. 1.00

02:24:16.240 all right man we ain't gonna talk about that shit why is she here what's up all right here 0.83

02:24:22.240 i got another clip right here from beard bug hold on let me get this thing for you guys real quick 0.97

02:24:26.560 why'd you bring

02:24:46.240 Bro 0.97

02:24:52.120 Like

02:24:53.880 Here let's play it back one more time

02:24:55.780 This one seems like an extended version 0.98

02:24:57.380 Yeah it's a wife 0.97

02:24:58.200 Why is she here?

02:25:00.420 What's up?

02:25:01.020 Why did you bring her?

02:25:02.000 We separated 1.00

02:25:02.560 You just gonna tell him that on camera nigga? 1.00

02:25:06.020 It's the truth 0.99

02:25:06.620 No wonder we fucking depressed 0.98

02:25:08.200 You wanna call her to fix it? 0.99

02:25:11.840 Call her to fix it

02:25:12.740 Can we fix this?

02:25:13.640 I'm good man

02:25:14.220 No I'm not trying to

02:25:15.220 See

02:25:15.400 I mean, can we, I mean, do you, I mean, they, I mean, just say it.

02:25:21.580 I mean, look, it grew apart, that's it.

02:25:24.400 Did you let the streaming come between us?

02:25:26.280 What's that? 1.00

02:25:27.280 She gave up the, nigga, you must have been a real asshole for her to give up the G-Wagon. 1.00

02:25:30.960 I mean, we're separated, but I'm just gonna have to take care of her. 1.00

02:25:35.960 So I'll get her something nice, I'll make sure she's good. 0.99

02:25:38.960 You know, why don't you go fix that shit? 0.99

02:25:41.960 What's that? 1.00

02:25:42.960 Why don't you go fix it? 1.00

02:25:43.960 go fix it beyond repair no it's not go right it's nothing beyond repair niggas you just got 1.00

02:25:50.260 you just got to want to fix it you just got to go fix it niggas it worth fixing or you just 0.99

02:25:54.860 are you cool being you it's beyond repair man beyond repair all right man we ain't gonna talk 1.00

02:26:01.120 about that shit can you get what the fuck you driving this gentleman 1.00

02:26:13.960 I'm not even going to bother doing a parade and say, look, I told you so, you know, or 1.00

02:26:23.780 try to like dance on it or make fun of like, I'm pissed off for Larry, right?

02:26:31.940 I'm pissed off for Larry.

02:26:33.980 And the reason why I'm pissed off is because it really bothers me when I see talentless,

02:26:40.880 Uncharismatic 0.75

02:26:42.920 Useless 1.00

02:26:45.640 Women with no really 1.00

02:26:47.500 Tangible skills or assets 1.00

02:26:50.540 Right

02:26:51.980 Come in 1.00

02:26:53.920 Suck all the value out 1.00

02:26:56.160 And then leave 1.00

02:26:57.620 These bitches are basically 1.00

02:26:59.900 Cell stage one bro 1.00

02:27:00.960 Okay

02:27:02.000 You guys remember the cell

02:27:03.540 From Drown Ball Z 1.00

02:27:04.700 Nigga had the tail 1.00

02:27:05.920 And he'd fucking prick you 1.00

02:27:07.320 And just suck the life out of you 1.00

02:27:08.800 And then you'd be like 1.00

02:27:09.440 that's these women, bro, that's these women, and

02:27:15.940 when I tell you guys, right, 0.98

02:27:22.040 hypergamy is, it's real, it's fucking real, okay, it's real, and we live in a society where it is 0.96

02:27:32.880 no longer contained. Do you guys understand what I mean when I say that we live in a society 0.98

02:27:39.860 where hypergamy is not contained? You know what that means? We live in a deregulated sexual

02:27:46.640 marketplace. When you live in a deregulated sexual marketplace, okay, what that basically

02:27:52.780 means is anybody can hook up with anybody assuming age of consent is met, okay, and

02:28:00.700 that there's actual physical consent right age of consent than actual real consent as long as those 0.99

02:28:04.640 two things are meant anybody can hook up with anybody now when the idiots in the 1960s originally 0.99

02:28:10.440 bought into this idea of feminism and free love and birth control and letting women have 1.00

02:28:14.920 you know complete autonomy over their sexuality and and uh you know being big whores and 304s 1.00

02:28:19.900 and doing whatever they want they did not foresee this they thought let's let women be sluts let's 1.00

02:28:26.260 let women be 304s let's give women birth control let's give women all this power right to be as 0.99

02:28:32.720 promiscuous as they want to be with no consequence and everyone's going to get love but what people 0.99

02:28:37.280 fail to realize is this when women are left to their own devices they typically go with the best 0.94

02:28:43.980 option to them now let me be clear about this the best option to them doesn't mean it actually has 0.81

02:28:49.500 to be the best option to them. This is the key. It's just what they feel is the best option to

02:28:56.140 them. Do you guys understand that? Women are fucking retarded. So if you have game, you're

02:29:03.200 able to love bomb properly while maintaining this delicate balance of still having some bad boy-esque

02:29:10.320 traits while simultaneously love bombing, you can create the illusion that you're a good

02:29:16.980 counterpart you can fool the hypergamy to a degree that's all game is by the way chat 1.00

02:29:21.000 it's utilizing female nature and hypergamy against them to get what you want okay now prior to 2026 1.00

02:29:31.060 we had conventions in place to keep women in line so that this pernicious biological 1.00

02:29:37.440 trait of females would not destroy society okay because remember guys if a woman gets pregnant 1.00

02:29:47.260 right she now is going to be a burden on everybody else women understand that you know they have to 0.99

02:29:53.920 be sexually selective to a degree right and if they're not sexually selective you can literally

02:29:57.500 destroy everything right this is why men have this like proclivity to hate like not hate but 0.99

02:30:05.060 to like be so disgusted by whores the reason why men are so turned off by whores is because you 0.98

02:30:11.440 have a biological thing in the backyard man you're hardwired to want to support your children your 1.00

02:30:18.360 biological children okay you're not designed to be a fucking cuck that's why it's shamed 0.99

02:30:24.080 you're designed to want to protect your girl your woman alongside the offspring that you guys 0.99

02:30:31.160 created together right and a defense mechanism is since men can't naturally ensure paternity

02:30:38.960 you look at traits and or you're disgusted by horse just like women are turned off by

02:30:43.700 guys that are short and ugly or might not have money or status you're turned off by girls that 0.95

02:30:48.580 are horse because for a woman she needs security so she looks for survival traits is he tall does 0.88

02:30:55.760 he have money does he have status does he have the ability to have to give me and my children 1.00

02:30:59.900 resources men we look for security too but our security is are you going to not be a slut 0.98

02:31:06.060 am i secure where i know the children are mine men don't ask for much women ask for way more 1.00

02:31:15.260 their security is for their survival our security is are the kids fucking mine bitch 0.99

02:31:20.200 okay and for thousands of years of human history we've done everything in our power 1.00

02:31:25.880 to curb and or stop and or negate 0.99

02:31:28.740 or impede women's ability to exercise hypergamy 1.00

02:31:31.500 and be fucking sluts. 1.00

02:31:32.800 But that all crashed in the 1960s. 1.00

02:31:38.040 We removed the shackles of shame.

02:31:39.960 We removed the shackles of the church. 0.66

02:31:41.320 We removed the shackles of religion.

02:31:42.500 We removed the shackles of being a mother, right? 1.00

02:31:48.040 We removed everything that used to keep women in check 1.00

02:31:51.800 and accountable to their husbands and their partners. 0.99

02:31:55.880 what we're left with now is a deregulated sexual marketplace where women decide who they want to 1.00

02:32:02.280 hook up with and who they think is the best deal but here's the problem since most women are stupid 1.00

02:32:05.980 and emotional creatures that can't really make proper decisions right they go off of what's good 1.00

02:32:10.600 right now versus what's good long term this has led to the fucking clusterfuck which is the current 0.99

02:32:17.340 sexual marketplace now there's a reason why arranged marriages were a thing for so goddamn 0.99

02:32:21.580 long the reason why arranged marriages were a thing for so long is because women don't really 0.97

02:32:25.340 have a good ability to ascertain the long-term um success of a man right as being a good father

02:32:32.960 i'll give an example guy a guy b right let's say i'm a dad and i have a daughter guy a comes in

02:32:40.640 he's five foot eight he's a nerd he's not the most attractive guy he has weird mannerisms

02:32:47.200 but he makes 100k per year nice guy sexually inexperienced etc right but he wants to be uh

02:32:54.980 a husband and a, and a, and a, um, must be a good husband and, and have children. Guy B comes in,

02:33:01.300 Chad, six foot five, multimillionaire, has a fucking Ferrari, right? Super charismatic, 0.99

02:33:08.880 super charming, et cetera, right? But he's not really looking for anything serious. He's,

02:33:15.000 he's looking for, you know, he's not looking for something for a long time. He's looking for a fun

02:33:19.460 time right so me as the father i'm gonna go with option a why because i know he's gonna be able to

02:33:28.980 provide long-term security to my daughter so i know what's best for her for the long term but

02:33:33.820 if i were to leave the decision to my daughter who do you think she would pick she would pick 1.00

02:33:37.120 the fucking chat because she's a dumb bitch women are retarded okay they are and if you guys don't 1.00

02:33:44.380 believe me go ahead and go on fucking tiktok and look at all the women complaining in a fucking 1.00

02:33:49.540 car about how they can't find a guy the reason why is because guys have figured out the higher status 0.99

02:33:55.160 guys the good-looking guys the chads they figured out how to circumvent hypergamy and get what they

02:33:59.200 want from the women without giving what they want what they need to give ace man thank you for the 0.97

02:34:02.420 gifted and dark side does that make sense this is why arranged marriages were a thing for so goddamn

02:34:08.280 long the father was there to protect the woman from herself he was there to pick the best partner 0.94

02:34:13.140 for her for long-term security and a stable family but when you leave women to their own

02:34:18.280 devices you have fatherless households you don't have um you don't have a father or a brother or 1.00

02:34:22.220 some male some male okay some male involved in the mating process the woman is destined to 1.00

02:34:30.760 fucking fail why because women go with what's hot right now and what's not and what's um they they 1.00

02:34:37.220 care about i want to have fun now women are very fucking short-sighted and the reason why they're 1.00

02:34:42.420 short sight is because they have a finite amount of time to maximize their looks to their benefit 1.00

02:34:47.380 between 18 to 30 years old is the fucking window they got about 12 prime years that they can use 0.88

02:34:52.760 that's why they say i'm here for a good time not a long time your job as the husband sorry 0.99

02:34:59.920 your job as the father or the or the brother because you know you don't have a vested sexual

02:35:04.740 interest in this woman you actually care about her and her longevity is your job is to find a guy

02:35:09.700 that's going to be the guy that can take care of her

02:35:12.620 long-term beyond 30, right? 1.00

02:35:15.160 But since so many women are stupid 1.00

02:35:16.300 and they just want to have fun now, 1.00

02:35:18.440 they make the decisions based on what's fun now. 0.99

02:35:21.960 This is how they end up with the fuckboys. 0.98

02:35:23.080 This is how they end up with the rappers. 0.99

02:35:24.120 They end up with all these guys.

02:35:25.360 They're not good long-term prospects,

02:35:27.740 but they're good short-term prospects

02:35:29.500 because we live in a society of instant gratification.

02:35:32.260 so the need to have fun or the want to have fun overrides being intelligent and getting

02:35:44.980 long-term security now here's the where the rubber meets the road the reason why this is 0.65

02:35:48.320 so completely fucking unacceptable right because people might say well myra why are you being so 0.53

02:35:52.600 tough on this bro why can't she have a couple of years of fun and then find a guy after i'll tell 0.98

02:35:57.240 you why because she's been ruined for lack of better term she's been tainted you understand 1.00

02:36:08.660 in order for a woman to get the experience and get it out of her system she has to do things 0.84

02:36:18.260 that disqualify her from being a real wife you guys get that shout out to bh uh 2000

02:36:26.040 Thank you so much for the gifted sub. 0.98

02:36:32.120 Okay? 0.92

02:36:33.720 So when girls say girls just want to have fun, 0.96

02:36:36.460 let's not be stupid here and let's be explicitly descriptive. 0.87

02:36:41.000 Have fun means casual relationships with multiple men 0.94

02:36:44.100 and figuring out what they like and what they don't like. 0.95

02:36:48.320 But what women don't understand is that process in of itself 1.00

02:36:51.320 disqualifies them from getting the dream man. 1.00

02:36:55.660 and it's your fucking job as the brother and the dad to protect her from herself to preserve her 0.98

02:37:04.000 value so that she can go ahead and have more negotiating power in the dating marketplace 1.00

02:37:08.160 and eventually the marriage marketplace but women are too stupid to understand and too 1.00

02:37:12.340 nearsighted to understand that we have a long-term fucking problem that we need to fix which is your 1.00

02:37:17.080 security via a man but when you go ahead and you go for short-term pleasure that's going to lead 0.99

02:37:21.780 to long-term fucking pain. 0.99

02:37:23.120 Why? 1.00

02:37:23.540 Because you've had your fun

02:37:24.460 in your 20s,

02:37:25.180 you sowed your wild oats,

02:37:26.240 but guess what?

02:37:27.000 You've now disqualified yourself

02:37:28.260 from the very men you won

02:37:29.220 in the first place

02:37:29.840 before you sowed your wild oats.

02:37:34.100 And this is why 0.99

02:37:35.020 hypergamy is so fucking dangerous. 0.99

02:37:36.660 This is why, 0.99

02:37:37.700 whether it's a fucking 1.00

02:37:38.420 G from India, 1.00

02:37:39.660 a Muslim nigga from Iraq, 1.00

02:37:41.260 a fucking Native American guy 1.00

02:37:43.360 in the United States, 1.00

02:37:45.700 some Italian nigga 1.00

02:37:46.480 from the fucking, 1.00

02:37:47.640 from Florence, 1.00

02:37:48.700 or the Romans,

02:37:49.880 or the Greeks,

02:37:50.360 or the Greeks,

02:37:51.780 right? Why is it that every single fucking civilization of human beings since the beginning 0.98

02:37:56.660 of time have done everything in their power to contain female hypergamy and promiscuity? Why? 1.00

02:38:01.280 Because they understand that women can easily be tainted, and once they're tainted, they can no 1.00

02:38:05.180 longer demand full price at the fucking sexual marketplace, which means the father and the 1.00

02:38:10.460 brother are going to be stuck with supporting her longer because she doesn't qualify for a man that 1.00

02:38:15.260 could be a provider for her. Do you get that? This is why a good brother or a good dad has an

02:38:20.160 extremely vested interest in ensuring that their sister and or their daughter gets a man that could 0.93

02:38:25.220 take care of them long term so they don't have to fucking have that burden so when men have skin in 1.00

02:38:32.520 the game and know that i have to continue paying for my daughter taking care of my daughter guess 1.00

02:38:36.520 what they're gonna do this checks and balances they're gonna ensure the guy that they set their 0.55

02:38:40.640 daughter up with is going to take care of her long term so me as a dad remember example a example b

02:38:46.100 I see one guy that's able to provide long-term security.

02:38:49.640 That's the guy I'm going to go for.

02:38:51.920 The other guy might have the things that are more attractive,

02:38:54.360 but I know what's going to be better for my daughter long-term. 1.00

02:38:56.760 Men aren't as short-sighted as women are. 1.00

02:38:59.440 But if I left my daughter to her own devices and she's a fucking retard, 1.00

02:39:02.540 she's going to go for the Chad. 1.00

02:39:03.740 That Chad's going to break her heart, leave her. 1.00

02:39:05.560 Next thing you know, she's going to be on fucking TikTok complaining 1.00

02:39:07.620 about how men ain't shit. 1.00

02:39:12.460 And in the process of her fucking with that Chad, 1.00

02:39:14.640 she's picked up another body she's picked up some drama some trauma 0.99

02:39:19.060 she's picked up some bad experiences 0.98

02:39:23.940 and most importantly here purity has been robbed i've said this before i'll say it again women are 1.00

02:39:32.320 like glass if you take a glass and you drop it on the floor it smashes into a thousand pieces 1.00

02:39:36.700 you could go ahead and hire the best fucking you know repairer some glass expert he repairs it 0.99

02:39:42.160 blah blah blah but guess what every time you pour water in that fucking glass it's always going to 1.00

02:39:46.100 leak it's not going to be the same this is why virginity has been such a fucking important thing 0.99

02:39:50.360 for men because number one ensures paternity then number two it ensures that the woman is 0.96

02:39:55.600 pair bonded to you but now that we have this deregulated sexual marketplace we got all these 1.00

02:40:00.980 fucking whores all over the place you got a lot of women quite frankly that don't deserve a long-term 1.00

02:40:09.480 relationship 304s now let's spin this back to fucking what's going on with larry right 1.00

02:40:14.540 so as you guys know for those of you that don't know i'll quickly recap here larry wills is married 0.80

02:40:20.960 to this chick okay this girl he met her in dubai i think she's a flight attendant for like uae

02:40:25.700 airlines or some shit like that she's serbian or eastern european of some kind right so as you guys 0.99

02:40:30.960 can see here already just off the me describing a little bit about her fucking red flags all over 1.00

02:40:35.480 the place. Right? 1.00

02:40:37.920 Literally, it's a fucking communist parade. 1.00

02:40:39.820 Red flags all over the fucking place with this girl. 1.00

02:40:41.780 Thank you, Freshest Asian, for the three months 1.00

02:40:43.340 of resubscribing. Right? 1.00

02:40:50.480 Now,

02:40:51.040 when Larry got with this girl, right,

02:40:54.240 he was probably the best that she could

02:40:55.460 do at that time.

02:40:57.900 John says, she belongs to the streets. Thank you for that.

02:41:00.500 Give the sub.

02:41:02.580 She consulted on him, 1.00

02:41:03.740 married him probably got an enormous amount of benefits citizenship whatever the fuck right 0.82

02:41:07.800 once he started streaming right once he started streaming and she got put in the limelight and 1.00

02:41:15.760 started became famous guess what happened offers started coming her way other men started to slide

02:41:21.780 she realized man maybe you know maybe larry's not the best option people are making fun of larry on 1.00

02:41:27.860 x calling him a cuck people are calling him a fucking pussy people are making fun of him 1.00

02:41:31.800 insulting his masculinity, insulting his manhood. 1.00

02:41:34.660 He's getting roasted, right? 0.69

02:41:36.780 Meanwhile, she's getting offers.

02:41:39.500 So what happened?

02:41:41.900 I'll tell you what happened. 1.00

02:41:44.400 Her, just like every other fucking retarded woman, right, 1.00

02:41:48.400 that thinks she could do better, 1.00

02:41:52.220 she thought the grass is greener on the other side. 1.00

02:41:55.540 And this perpetual concept that women have in their mind 1.00

02:41:59.660 where they always think that they can do better, 1.00

02:42:01.020 this is the negative side of hypergamy 1.00

02:42:03.120 women typically always think 1.00

02:42:04.580 the grass is greener on the other side 1.00

02:42:06.040 not realizing that the lawn that they're in right now is beautiful

02:42:08.880 the grass is great

02:42:10.460 the flowers rise

02:42:11.980 every now and then you might see a weed here or there

02:42:14.200 but it gets pulled out in a week or two 1.00

02:42:16.220 but what ends up happening with women is

02:42:18.540 once they feel as though 0.71

02:42:20.920 they can do better

02:42:21.580 it's over

02:42:22.800 whether or not they can actually do it

02:42:25.360 it's important that you guys understand this

02:42:26.400 it all goes off our perception

02:42:27.780 not what's real

02:42:31.020 okay? A girl will open up her Instagram and see a thousand DMs from higher status guys.

02:42:37.440 She doesn't have the mental capacity and the intelligence to understand none of these guys 0.81

02:42:40.620 actually want her. They just want to have sex with her. What she'll do is she'll look at that 1.00

02:42:44.520 and be like, look at all these options I have. But they're not really viable options. But women

02:42:49.860 have a difficult time understanding the difference between viable options for long-term commitment

02:42:55.720 versus options for sexuality. 1.00

02:42:59.540 Women tend to conflate the two 1.00

02:43:00.620 for their own ego purposes. 1.00

02:43:04.160 So this is what went down. 0.97

02:43:06.740 She probably thought she commands more respect 1.00

02:43:09.220 and more value in the sexual marketplace than Larry. 1.00

02:43:11.920 She thought she could do better. 0.98

02:43:13.360 That led to the separation.

02:43:14.860 I don't understand the actual grievances here,

02:43:19.900 but I'm willing to bet that's probably what it was.

02:43:21.960 Because notice, shortly after he became a streamer

02:43:24.220 and started getting to the public limelight,

02:43:25.720 and all this bad press came out on him,

02:43:27.180 his wife and him separate.

02:43:29.540 So I'm willing to bet that there was some type of infidelity, 0.98

02:43:31.960 some type of disrespect, or whatever the fuck it may be, 0.98

02:43:34.380 where she thought she could do better. 0.74

02:43:36.080 One thing you guys need to understand is,

02:43:37.700 if a woman leaves you nine out of ten times,

02:43:39.380 that means she can do better. 0.99

02:43:41.400 Okay?

02:43:42.100 That's what she means.

02:43:43.020 She's betting against you.

02:43:44.620 If she leaves you, she's betting against you that she can do better. 0.98

02:43:47.520 Otherwise, she wouldn't leave. 1.00

02:43:48.360 Because women are like fucking sports scouts. 1.00

02:43:51.060 Okay? 1.00

02:43:51.900 A scout's job is to assess the potential of a future athlete

02:43:55.480 and their ability to create change on their team

02:43:58.600 and get them a championship. 1.00

02:43:59.980 That's what women are. 1.00

02:44:00.860 They're fucking scouts, okay? 1.00

02:44:02.840 And if they don't see the potential 1.00

02:44:04.500 or they think they can get a better athlete,

02:44:07.320 they will go ahead and move on to the better athlete. 1.00

02:44:09.440 That's what women are. 1.00

02:44:10.140 They're fucking scouts, okay? 1.00

02:44:12.920 And scouting is basically hypergamy. 1.00

02:44:15.900 So once she got in the limelight, 0.96

02:44:17.480 once she started going viral,

02:44:18.580 once Larry started getting all this negative press,

02:44:20.380 once she started getting all this press, 0.98

02:44:21.760 she felt as though she can do fucking better. 0.99

02:44:25.480 And that's more than likely what led to the fucking separation. 0.98

02:44:29.380 And this is why it's so fucking important 0.99

02:44:31.380 that you never get with girls that want to be entertainers. 0.91

02:44:35.260 This is exactly why you don't let your girl ever think she's better than you. 1.00

02:44:42.100 Because the problem with women is women have this natural proclivity 1.00

02:44:45.000 to think they're the fucking main character. 1.00

02:44:47.520 Since they're naturally solipsistic and naturally fucking narcissistic, 1.00

02:44:50.660 which they are, I don't give a fuck what anybody tells me. 1.00

02:44:52.920 Some of you faggots might come in. 1.00

02:44:53.940 No, they're not. Yes, they are. 1.00

02:44:55.840 They have to be. 1.00

02:44:57.460 They have to be fucking more narcissistic 1.00

02:44:59.040 because they're the more vulnerable and weaker sex retard. 1.00

02:45:02.580 So since they're the more vulnerable and weaker sex, 1.00

02:45:05.260 they have to be far more calculated in how they move.

02:45:08.000 They have to be far more calculated with who they mate with. 0.64

02:45:11.260 They have to be more strategic in what they do. 1.00

02:45:12.860 This is why when a woman breaks up with you, 1.00

02:45:14.580 nine out of 10 times, 1.00

02:45:15.420 she made that decision three to four months ago, dumbass. 1.00

02:45:17.980 You're just fighting about it now. 1.00

02:45:20.980 But women don't typically monkey branch in a day. 1.00

02:45:24.080 It takes many days, if not. 1.00

02:45:25.300 weeks or months for them to properly grab that branch and then let go of you and move on and go

02:45:30.780 all the way into with that other branch. This is why over 50% of married women have a fucking 1.00

02:45:35.240 backup guy. Did you niggas know that? And that's just the bitches that were being honest. It's 1.00

02:45:40.280 probably way higher than that. And in today's sexual marketplace where every girl has fucking 1.00

02:45:44.220 Instagram, I'd say 90% at this point probably have a backup option that will gladly come in 1.00

02:45:48.460 and take over from their husband or their serious counterpart. This is the new normal.

02:45:53.560 This is the new sexual marketplace. 1.00

02:45:55.180 Her pergamy is out of fucking control. 1.00

02:45:58.140 A girl like this chick right here, obviously, right? 1.00

02:46:02.500 Yeah, she's attractive, cool, 1.00

02:46:04.260 but she's getting closer to her 30s. 0.99

02:46:06.300 She's with a multimillionaire, famous guy, successful, 1.00

02:46:08.420 but she thinks she commands more power 1.00

02:46:10.980 in the sexual marketplace than she left him. 1.00

02:46:12.680 This is the hubris of the modern female. 1.00

02:46:15.140 You guys get it? 1.00

02:46:16.080 And it's only because she went viral with him streaming 1.00

02:46:18.240 that she felt this fucking way. 0.99

02:46:20.120 Do you get it? 1.00

02:46:20.740 this is going to be really toxic what i'm about to say but i'm going to say it anyway 1.00

02:46:27.400 because a lot of you faggots are retarded and don't understand this shit so let me go ahead 1.00

02:46:30.820 and say this in a manner that will be understandable for you niggas okay your job as the boyfriend as 1.00

02:46:39.480 the husband as the male counterpart is to continuously remind your fucking bitch that 1.00

02:46:44.320 you're the fucking prize do you get that i'm gonna say that again for you 1.00

02:46:47.780 your job as the man with your girl is to continuously remind her that you're the 1.00

02:46:58.840 fucking prize do you get that why because we live in a world where women are idolized and 1.00

02:47:04.740 worship for nothing more than to have a vagina and tits so since there's fucking pro-female 1.00

02:47:09.880 propaganda all over the fucking place and women can do no wrong and there's sims everywhere that 1.00

02:47:16.020 compliment them for just having a fucking set of tits it's your job to constantly bash into her 1.00

02:47:21.080 head not literally of course because some of you guys are retarded it's your job to constantly 1.00

02:47:24.560 remind her that you're the fucking prize and you can replace her at any time because guess what 0.99

02:47:29.360 guys she can replace you at any time and she's constantly reminded of that do you get what i'm 0.99

02:47:34.540 fucking saying here you need to let your girl know that she's just as expendable as she might 0.98

02:47:41.820 think that you are now why is this so profound and why so important because women aren't used 1.00

02:47:46.440 to being with a guy that treats them as expendable oh my god myra this is so toxic

02:47:52.760 it's the truth of how to navigate the sexual marketplace now you could blame instagram you

02:47:58.680 could blame tiktok you could blame social media you can blame the interconnectivity via social 1.00

02:48:02.680 media you can blame the simps but the bottom line is this women's egos are out of fucking control 1.00

02:48:09.620 Average women think that they're above average 1.00

02:48:12.100 Fat bitches think they're hot 1.00

02:48:14.200 Ugly women think they're beautiful 1.00

02:48:16.220 Thanks to the fucking internet 1.00

02:48:17.880 So now, to correct for this 0.99

02:48:20.140 You have to be the type of guy 0.97

02:48:21.680 Where you're constantly reminding your chick 1.00

02:48:23.300 That you're the fucking prize 1.00

02:48:24.460 Now of course I don't want you to walk in and be like 1.00

02:48:26.240 Hey bitch, I'm the prize 1.00

02:48:29.120 No nigga 1.00

02:48:30.160 You demonstrate it by your actions 1.00

02:48:33.100 Other women want you 1.00

02:48:34.380 You carry yourself in a certain way 1.00

02:48:35.940 You don't tolerate bullshit 0.99

02:48:37.140 when you speak to her and you tell her to do something 0.98

02:48:40.140 you're very stern and decisive in what you say

02:48:42.020 and what you do 0.98

02:48:42.560 you have very strong boundaries that she's fucking terrified to violate 0.96

02:48:45.740 not because you're going to do anything to her 0.97

02:48:47.540 no, we don't need violence 1.00

02:48:49.140 she's scared to violate your boundaries 1.00

02:48:53.320 because she knows that you'll walk out the fucking door 1.00

02:48:55.220 she knows that you'll look her dead in the eye and say go home 1.00

02:48:57.980 get out of here 1.00

02:48:58.620 and you have the capability of getting another bitch right then and there 1.00

02:49:01.820 that's the only thing women respect 1.00

02:49:03.900 do you get that? 1.00

02:49:07.140 It's the only fire that you guys have to fight fire with fire. 1.00

02:49:11.040 Women have a thousand niggas in their fucking DMs. 1.00

02:49:13.280 They got guys complimenting all the time. 1.00

02:49:14.860 They got people telling them that they're brilliant and smart 1.00

02:49:16.480 when they're fucking retarded. 1.00

02:49:17.700 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:49:17.980 Niggas probably told this dumb Serbian bitch she's smart. 1.00

02:49:20.180 This bitch is retarded. 1.00

02:49:21.580 But I guarantee if we looked at her fucking Instagram, 1.00

02:49:23.700 you're so smart. 0.99

02:49:24.720 Why are you with Larry?

02:49:25.540 You can do better.

02:49:26.460 You deserve the world.

02:49:27.560 50K isn't enough for you a month.

02:49:28.880 You need 100,000 a month.

02:49:30.760 And then she heard this over and over and over and over again,

02:49:34.040 and she started to believe it.

02:49:37.140 Then she starts to think, maybe I could do better than Larry.

02:49:39.460 Then the disrespect comes.

02:49:40.620 Then the unappreciation comes.

02:49:42.960 Or the ungratefulness comes.

02:49:46.060 That leads to separation.

02:49:48.000 I don't know if it was her or him that initiated it,

02:49:50.300 but I guarantee you, her behavior changed after the streaming,

02:49:53.340 and that's what led to this.

02:49:57.220 And this is precisely why I tell you guys, 1.00

02:49:59.900 do not get with women that do social media, 1.00

02:50:01.860 do not fucking get with girls that are attention whores, 1.00

02:50:04.000 do not get with girls that always want to be around, etc., 1.00

02:50:06.500 because what ends up happening is

02:50:07.540 if you got a girl like that,

02:50:08.440 that's an attachment 1.00

02:50:08.880 or that needs that type of shit, 1.00

02:50:10.840 it's just a matter of time 1.00

02:50:11.740 until people are whispering sweet

02:50:13.540 and nothing's in her ear

02:50:14.200 and she thinks that she can do better.

02:50:18.260 It's a mitigation strategy, guys,

02:50:19.740 because the odds are stacked against you.

02:50:21.700 The deck is completely stacked against you.

02:50:25.040 A multimillionaire guy

02:50:26.200 that's attractive and good-looking 0.99

02:50:27.260 and has shit together, 1.00

02:50:28.780 he's going to have to fight tooth and nail 1.00

02:50:30.220 to keep an average bitch in check. 1.00

02:50:34.880 I'm going to say that again 1.00

02:50:35.780 for you retarded faggots out here. 1.00

02:50:37.080 This is politically incorrect advice 1.00

02:50:38.480 that no one's going to tell you,

02:50:39.300 but I'll tell you.

02:50:40.340 A guy that's exceptional,

02:50:42.680 tall, good-looking,

02:50:43.960 money, status, etc., 1.00

02:50:45.600 that nigga's still going to have to fucking fight 1.00

02:50:47.760 to keep his bitch in line. 1.00

02:50:53.420 That's where we are. 1.00

02:50:55.480 That's where we are. 1.00

02:51:02.020 Because hypergamy is fucking out of control. 1.00

02:51:05.780 you guys see how these bitches 1.00

02:51:10.500 come and act on our show 1.00

02:51:11.420 you see how fucking 1.00

02:51:12.460 entitled and rude they are 1.00

02:51:13.280 you see how they behave

02:51:14.340 right 1.00

02:51:16.200 you see all this bullshit 1.00

02:51:17.540 they treat us like that 1.00

02:51:20.340 we're clouded up

02:51:21.720 we got money 1.00

02:51:22.220 they're on our fucking show 1.00

02:51:23.200 and they treat us like that 1.00

02:51:23.940 what do you think they're gonna do 1.00

02:51:24.680 with a regular nigga bro 1.00

02:51:25.540 this is the new normal chat 1.00

02:51:32.160 this is the new normal

02:51:33.620 you need to move completely different now you can't pedestalize girls you can't be a simp you 1.00

02:51:39.980 can't be a sucker you got to come in like bitch i'm the prize and that you could be replaced at 0.99

02:51:45.200 any time that's the power dynamic you need to have in a relationship i'm sorry bro i wish it 1.00

02:51:49.200 wasn't like this chat i wish i could tell you to be a nice guy i wish i could say give her a bouquet 0.98

02:51:53.440 of flowers every time you see her i wish i could tell y'all to fucking you know spoil her all the 0.99

02:51:58.960 time i wish i could tell you guys that she can have guy friends uh whatever who gives a fuck 0.99

02:52:03.260 But the point is, I wish that I could tell y'all niggas it wasn't like this, but it's not, bro. 1.00

02:52:07.060 It's not. 1.00

02:52:07.560 You got to be fucking militant with these bitches now. 1.00

02:52:10.480 You got to be so goddamn on point. 1.00

02:52:11.940 You got to be militant with them, man. 0.98

02:52:13.660 Now, again, let me be clear here. 1.00

02:52:15.580 I'm not talking about some random bitch you're fucking. 1.00

02:52:17.340 I don't care about that. 1.00

02:52:18.360 You could, she's for the streets. 0.84

02:52:19.880 Who cares?

02:52:20.300 You have some fun.

02:52:21.240 Recreational news, fine. 1.00

02:52:22.740 I'm talking about any woman you want to take seriously. 1.00

02:52:27.120 I'm talking about any girl that you want to make wife. 0.99

02:52:28.900 I'm talking about any girl that you want to fucking provide for. 0.99

02:52:31.060 I'm talking about any girl that you want to take seriously 0.99

02:52:33.280 and be willing to die for.

02:52:34.740 That's what I'm talking about. 1.00

02:52:36.080 If it's some horror, like, no, bro, what the fuck? 0.99

02:52:39.140 There's two different lanes here. 0.99

02:52:41.100 I'm talking about having a girl that you want to take seriously 1.00

02:52:43.160 for a relationship where you might fucking marry this bitch 1.00

02:52:45.820 or have kids with her. 1.00

02:52:47.400 You have to look for all these things.

02:52:49.960 And you have to have this dynamic with your girl.

02:52:51.900 She needs to thank God that she's with you,

02:52:53.860 not the other way around. 1.00

02:52:55.560 Larry over here gave this fucking talentless bitch 1.00

02:52:58.820 way too much fucking credit. 1.00

02:53:00.360 Way too much 1.00

02:53:01.860 Pedestalization 1.00

02:53:03.780 Bro she's some fucking mid looking 1.00

02:53:06.500 Eastern European chick that takes thirst wrap pictures 1.00

02:53:08.560 On the internet bro come on man 1.00

02:53:09.940 Nigga 1.00

02:53:11.720 There's thousands of her 1.00

02:53:14.700 There's only one Larry Wheels

02:53:15.980 And it pisses me off cause like

02:53:20.160 Bro 1.00

02:53:20.920 Nigga like there's so many 1.00

02:53:24.580 There's a new bitch turning 18 that looks just like 1.00

02:53:26.780 Fucking her right now 1.00

02:53:30.360 It fucking kills me 1.00

02:53:32.720 When I see guys that got their money together 0.99

02:53:34.400 Got their life together, etc

02:53:35.560 And they're getting with these 1.00

02:53:38.160 Ungrateful, useless fucking bimbos 1.00

02:53:40.620 That provide almost no fucking value 1.00

02:53:42.160 Bro, this bitch was a flight attendant when you met her 1.00

02:53:44.080 In Dubai 1.00

02:53:45.060 Get the fuck out of here, man 1.00

02:53:47.180 Get the fuck out of here 1.00

02:53:50.020 You were giving her 50k a month 1.00

02:53:56.380 Taking care of all this other bullshit 0.97

02:53:57.620 And you guys were split, what are you doing? 1.00

02:53:59.680 Bro, don't give her shit. 0.99

02:54:01.000 I hope someone clips this and sends it to him. 1.00

02:54:02.880 Don't give her shit. 1.00

02:54:04.240 She constantly was disrespecting you, 1.00

02:54:05.720 constantly undermining you, 1.00

02:54:06.740 and she did this shit on fucking camera. 1.00

02:54:09.360 Fuck that, man. 1.00

02:54:11.440 You gotta put your foot down with these girls. 1.00

02:54:12.940 I don't give a fuck what you guys talked about 1.00

02:54:14.220 behind the scenes or whatever. 1.00

02:54:15.220 This girl is a liability, bro. 0.99

02:54:17.640 She's a liability. 1.00

02:54:18.200 She cooked her credibility in a fucking month 1.00

02:54:19.800 over her dumbass comments. 1.00

02:54:22.340 Why is she saving DMs from niggas? 1.00

02:54:25.880 Oh, did you know that Maiden messaged me 1.00

02:54:27.920 like three years ago? 1.00

02:54:28.860 Like, bitch, I don't even remember you. 0.99

02:54:31.600 Look at this DM off an old Instagram account 1.00

02:54:34.020 that I don't even know fucking that's been banned forever. 1.00

02:54:36.620 Why are you saving that, you fucking weird old bitch? 1.00

02:54:39.120 That's weird. 1.00

02:54:42.540 That in itself is an enormous red flag.

02:54:45.980 And let me tell you guys a dark secret 1.00

02:54:47.360 about a lot of these hoes. 1.00

02:54:52.460 Women think it's a game and they love men 1.00

02:54:54.260 giving them attention and guys of status. 1.00

02:54:55.860 So like the fact

02:54:58.100 If your girl's ever here

02:54:59.000 Saving this

02:54:59.580 Saving like

02:55:00.300 Screenshots from other men

02:55:01.580 Or saying I hooked up

02:55:02.300 With this guy or whatever 1.00

02:55:02.980 That's a fucking red flag bro 1.00

02:55:04.260 Like what she doesn't realize 1.00

02:55:07.700 Because she's so stupid 1.00

02:55:08.680 Because women are retarded 1.00

02:55:09.680 She thought that was a flex 1.00

02:55:11.940 Oh see

02:55:12.840 Look

02:55:13.420 He hit me up

02:55:14.400 And I didn't respond

02:55:15.320 Oh yes 1.00

02:55:15.880 Bitch I don't even remember that 1.00

02:55:18.540 And even if I did 1.00

02:55:19.500 Who cares 1.00

02:55:20.260 That's not a flex for niggas 1.00

02:55:21.260 To hit you up 1.00

02:55:21.640 You stupid fucking bitch 1.00

02:55:22.560 If anything that makes you retarded 1.00

02:55:24.020 For saving the screenshot man 0.95

02:55:25.540 but this is what i'm saying this is the wherewithal of the average woman 0.64

02:55:31.700 you guys get that the average woman has no fucking clue that saving a picture like that 0.81

02:55:39.220 and or bragging about that makes you inherently less attractive 1.00

02:55:41.900 your mindset is fucked up once i saw that i was like yeah this bitch is cooked i knew right then 1.00

02:55:54.160 in there. This is not going to last. I knew right then and fucking there, bro, this is not going to 1.00

02:56:01.420 last. Girls that do shit like that, the worst kinds, bro. The worst kinds. And again, I'm not 1.00

02:56:13.400 giving you guys this monologue on females to shit on Larry. That's beside the fact. I'm just 0.99

02:56:18.040 explaining to you guys, this is the new normal with women and how you need to move. And when it 1.00

02:56:22.180 comes to the larry situation i saw this coming and i hope he stops giving her money i hope he 0.96

02:56:26.320 stops fucking spoiling her i hope he stops giving her this lifestyle guys need to make it like this 0.96

02:56:30.660 if you're no longer with me the lifestyle ends you guys want to know why it probably was easier 0.99

02:56:35.820 for her to separate and then end this shit is because she knew that she'd be able to maintain 0.76

02:56:39.240 the same lifestyle to a significant degree while not being with them anymore you guys get that 0.99

02:56:46.740 she probably left because she knew or she was more she was okay with them splitting up because

02:56:57.700 she understood that she was able to maintain her same lifestyle to a degree while not being with 0.75

02:57:03.900 him this is why marriage is such a fucking dangerous proposition because what ends up 0.90

02:57:12.120 happening with marriages, right? 1.00

02:57:16.300 You're going into a fucking contract. 0.99

02:57:18.000 You're going into a business deal with someone that's not incentivized 1.00

02:57:20.060 to fucking see the deal through because they get the benefits 0.94

02:57:22.100 whether the deal continues or not. 0.99

02:57:29.580 Think about it, guys, for a second. 1.00

02:57:31.400 Think about this shit. 1.00

02:57:32.240 Think about this. 1.00

02:57:37.980 In a relationship, in a marriage, right,

02:57:40.460 man and woman split up.

02:57:42.120 after the marriage

02:57:43.880 depending on how long it goes

02:57:44.960 the man is still on the hook

02:57:45.920 for alimony

02:57:46.380 he's still on the hook

02:57:47.180 for child support

02:57:47.760 he's still on the hook

02:57:48.540 for potentially giving her

02:57:50.020 the house

02:57:50.440 the marital house

02:57:51.220 50% of everything

02:57:52.380 that he crewed

02:57:52.860 while he was with her

02:57:53.460 he's on the hook

02:57:54.620 for everything

02:57:55.020 so in other words

02:57:55.860 his duties

02:57:56.720 while he was married to her

02:57:57.820 are still intact

02:57:59.220 to some degree

02:57:59.920 but guess what 1.00

02:58:01.720 the duties of the woman 1.00

02:58:03.400 sucking your dick 1.00

02:58:05.000 fucking you every now and then 1.00

02:58:06.120 cleaning up the house 1.00

02:58:06.900 all that shit 1.00

02:58:07.380 she is not obligated 1.00

02:58:08.500 to fucking fulfill 1.00

02:58:09.280 any of that shit 1.00

02:58:10.180 get that through your head 1.00

02:58:11.980 after marriage is done

02:58:14.640 you are still on the hook

02:58:16.480 for your masculine

02:58:17.220 burn-up performance

02:58:17.960 you are still on the hook 1.00

02:58:19.140 for your fucking masculine roles 1.00

02:58:20.660 she is not on the hook 1.00

02:58:22.760 for her feminine roles 1.00

02:58:23.620 that's fucking bullshit 1.00

02:58:24.880 and why none of you 1.00

02:58:25.660 should ever get fucking married 0.99

02:58:26.680 in modern day society 1.00

02:58:27.880 that in of itself

02:58:29.220 proves that marriage 1.00

02:58:30.840 is fucking useless to men 1.00

02:58:31.960 and also 1.00

02:58:34.780 this proves what I said before

02:58:36.220 your job

02:58:38.760 is to ensure

02:58:39.520 that if she was to end 1.00

02:58:40.620 the relationship

02:58:41.180 she is punished accordingly she no longer gets the benefit of being around you or getting all 1.00

02:58:46.720 the things that come with you lifestyle ends money gone car gone house gone fuck you bitch get out of 1.00

02:58:55.060 here this is why it's so fucking critical that you guys get a prenuptial agreement 1.00

02:59:01.200 that she's not entitled to any of your fucking assets if things fail 0.99

02:59:05.400 and throughout the relationship she's not entitled to any of your assets this is a fucking package 1.00

02:59:11.860 deal bitches want to sit here and be like well me and my kids come together okay bitch me my status 1.00

02:59:16.660 my money my resources they come together you are not going to be able to siphon value off from me 1.00

02:59:21.620 while not being with me get the fuck out of here i didn't work this fucking hard to have some serbian 1.00

02:59:26.180 bitch take my money get the fuck out of here go back to being a flight attendant in the uae bro 1.00

02:59:30.520 And the fact that Larry's being such a fucking bitch 1.00

02:59:37.620 About this shit 1.00

02:59:38.240 I hate to say it like that 1.00

02:59:39.420 But he is being a bitch about this shit 1.00

02:59:41.280 That is why she felt so comfortable with the split 1.00

02:59:43.760 Because she knew that she was able to

02:59:45.480 Maintain a majority of the lifestyle she had with him 1.00

02:59:48.640 Now she can go get some other fucking sucker 1.00

02:59:50.940 And he can get the other part 1.00

02:59:52.100 So in other words, she's fucking double dipping 0.98

02:59:53.760 She's getting money and security from this guy here 0.99

02:59:55.980 While still simultaneously being able to entertain

02:59:58.620 The marketplace over here 1.00

03:00:01.320 And I'm here to tell y'all niggas, 1.00

03:00:02.500 never let these bitches double dip. 1.00

03:00:04.220 Ever. 1.00

03:00:05.740 Never fucking let these hoes double dip. 1.00

03:00:09.300 I'm not fucking Tostitos, whore. 1.00

03:00:11.160 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

03:00:13.980 Don't look like fucking nacho chips, huh? 1.00

03:00:22.980 No thanks. 1.00

03:00:25.180 Relationship ends, everything else ends alongside it.

03:00:26.940 Now, his problem is that he got married without a prenup.

03:00:30.520 man guys this is the importance of being red pillow wear 0.99

03:00:38.160 if you're not red pillow wear guys you're gonna get fucking cooked 1.00

03:00:43.540 and it pains me that this talentless fucking bimbo is gonna still be able to enjoy the same 1.00

03:00:49.700 lifestyle with this nigga when she wasn't and now that she's not with him 1.00

03:00:52.580 no i have not helped you sign the prenup no i have not helped you sign the prenup 0.93

03:00:59.980 funny i did bring it up a couple times early on but i decided to go forward with that

03:01:08.020 i trust her bro 1.00

03:01:11.160 yeah you're basically a sheep and you fucking are trusting a wolf because that's what women are 1.00

03:01:20.100 Like her 1.00

03:01:21.360 Yo, here's some more game for you guys 1.00

03:01:24.400 Yo, Eastern European women are predators, bro 1.00

03:01:27.180 I'm gonna say that shit right now 1.00

03:01:30.420 Serbia, Romania, Ukraine, Russia 1.00

03:01:35.780 Like any of these Anias 0.99

03:01:39.300 Or former fucking USSR Soviet bloc 1.00

03:01:42.040 Get the fuck out of here with that, bro 1.00

03:01:43.220 These bitches are predatory, bro 1.00

03:01:45.560 These Slavic hoes will take all your shit 1.00

03:01:50.100 That's some real fucking game for y'all niggas 1.00

03:01:53.420 You need to fucking sign a prenuptial agreement 1.00

03:01:57.460 With Eastern European bitches immediately 1.00

03:01:59.000 Immediately 1.00

03:02:00.900 Okay 0.97

03:02:03.380 If your girl is from anywhere

03:02:07.080 In Eastern Europe 0.98

03:02:08.380 Right 1.00

03:02:10.380 Hell even Polish chicks 1.00

03:02:13.120 Right they might be a bit more 1.00

03:02:17.960 Progressive 1.00

03:02:19.640 but regardless all these fucking eastern european girls bro you you got to make them sign a 1.00

03:02:24.540 prenuptial agreement bro they will fucking suck you dry paws especially fucking russian and 1.00

03:02:29.940 ukrainian chicks bro if she has a slav anywhere in her lineage guess what you're gonna end up 1.00

03:02:42.760 a slave if you don't sign that prenuptial agreement here you go you go with a girl that 1.00

03:02:46.980 is a Slav, get ready to put the E at the end 1.00

03:02:49.120 because you're going to be a slave if you don't sign that fucking 1.00

03:02:50.640 prenuptial agreement, nigga. 1.00

03:02:53.840 There's your fucking rule. 1.00

03:02:56.640 Oh, she's from a Slavic country? Better get the prenup. 1.00

03:02:58.900 Otherwise, I'm going to be a slave.

03:03:03.440 Again, this isn't politically correct advice. 1.00

03:03:05.600 A lot of people are probably going to say that I'm a fucking racist. 1.00

03:03:07.640 I'm an asshole. I'm a misogist, whatever. 1.00

03:03:09.240 I don't give a fuck about any of those faggots. 1.00

03:03:11.040 I'm here to give you guys the game. 1.00

03:03:12.860 This is what your dad doesn't tell you.

03:03:14.460 This is what your older brother doesn't tell you.

03:03:16.100 Maybe they don't care, maybe they don't have their prerequisite knowledge 1.00

03:03:18.340 But I'm here to tell y'all niggas 1.00

03:03:19.560 You get what the Eastern European bitch 1.00

03:03:21.220 Make sure she signs the prenup 1.00

03:03:22.580 Because they're heavily interested in two things typically

03:03:24.600 Money and citizenship

03:03:25.840 You get that?

03:03:33.600 That's typically what they're interested in 1.00

03:03:35.220 And as soon as they get that shit 1.00

03:03:37.820 As you can see here 1.00

03:03:39.880 Incredible bro, incredible

03:03:42.960 I know some of you guys are like

03:03:45.680 Yo, Myron, why are you so fired up about this? 0.99

03:03:46.980 I'm fired up because this happens to men every fucking day, bro. 1.00

03:03:49.880 These ungrateful, useless, bimbo bitches 1.00

03:03:52.980 that bring no fucking tangible assets to the table 1.00

03:03:55.860 clean these niggas out all the fucking time. 1.00

03:03:58.920 And Larry's just another example of that shit. 1.00

03:04:00.460 This is what happens when you are not red pillow wearer. 1.00

03:04:04.080 This is what happens. 1.00

03:04:05.560 I get vindicated every fucking day on this bullshit, bro. 1.00

03:04:08.260 Every day. 1.00

03:04:09.000 Whether it's Abba being fucking cooked, 0.99

03:04:13.160 right, goon and preach, 1.00

03:04:15.680 Or fucking, you know, Akash getting fucking destroyed by his ex. 1.00

03:04:20.800 Sorry, by his wife right now who's destroying his fucking career. 1.00

03:04:24.600 I feel sorry for these niggas, bro. 1.00

03:04:26.200 And I'm here to tell you guys, I'm not impervious. 1.00

03:04:28.680 Bro, some bullshit might happen to me even. 0.98

03:04:31.380 Who knows? 0.99

03:04:32.400 I'm trying to mitigate the rest the best I can, of course.

03:04:35.880 Right?

03:04:36.600 You guys probably would have heard a scandal about me way sooner if I didn't.

03:04:39.340 But this is the game. 1.00

03:04:41.060 This is what happens when you deal with modern women, bro. 1.00

03:04:42.840 No one is safe from this shit. 1.00

03:04:44.000 Everybody can get got. 1.00

03:04:45.680 The only way really, right, that you can ensure that you don't get fucking got by a chick is to be a fucking MGTOW nigga, basically sit in your house all day by yourself and just not engage with women at all. 0.99

03:04:59.420 But I know that's just not a realistic option for a majority of you. 0.99

03:05:02.640 It is what it is, right?

03:05:06.500 So, that's the game, ninjas.

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03:06:26.860 so yeah man

03:06:27.320 that's the situation with Larry Wills bro 1.00

03:06:28.840 very painful to see this shit dude 1.00

03:06:30.880 very very painful 1.00

03:06:32.220 because I don't like seeing guys

03:06:33.940 get got

03:06:35.240 I'll play this clip one more time

03:06:36.960 because I do think you guys need to hear it

03:06:38.180 and I see that we got a bunch of people

03:06:39.280 that just joined

03:06:39.820 we got what 0.84

03:06:40.660 3,000 plus you ninjas in here.

03:06:42.720 Shout out to all you guys.

03:06:43.340 Happy to have you guys watching the show.

03:06:45.100 If you guys are watching on kick,

03:06:46.360 make sure to follow the channel.

03:06:47.740 Okay, we're the only real ninjas over here doing it, 0.99

03:06:49.620 covering this shit properly 1.00

03:06:50.880 because everyone else is a fucking retard. 1.00

03:06:53.000 So, yeah. 1.00

03:06:55.260 Oh, Larry's live right now.

03:06:57.080 Yeah, and I've noticed over the past several weeks

03:06:58.720 his wife hasn't been anywhere near the...

03:07:01.720 She hasn't been anywhere near him when he's streaming.

03:07:05.100 So that makes sense.

03:07:06.080 They probably broke up a minute ago, chat.

03:07:08.120 I guarantee you guys the streaming, 0.98

03:07:09.320 all the bullshit all the hate got to him and her and um you know that's what led to the separation 0.99

03:07:16.360 yeah it's a wife why is she here what's up why'd you bring her we separated 1.00

03:07:21.880 you just gonna tell him that on camera nigga it's the truth no wonder we fucking depressed 0.97

03:07:27.520 you want to you want me to call her fix it can we fix this i'm good man first of all no i'm not 0.98

03:07:34.320 Grew apart. Translation. She probably started getting more disrespectful, becoming more insufferable.

03:07:54.400 She thought she could do better. He got annoyed with it. That's probably what happened.

03:07:58.000 It would have been a real asshole for her to give up the G-Wagon. 1.00

03:08:01.900 No, it wasn't an asshole. 1.00

03:08:03.120 She was probably the asshole. 1.00

03:08:04.240 She was probably the one that's sufferable. 1.00

03:08:05.820 Bro, this girl, if you guys watch the streams with her and Larry, 1.00

03:08:10.000 she's fucking the worst, dude. 1.00

03:08:12.600 She's the exact archetype of a woman I tell you guys to always avoid. 1.00

03:08:16.520 Main character energy, I'm the shit, I'm hot, I'm a baddie, 1.00

03:08:20.720 Larry's lucky to have me. 1.00

03:08:22.220 Like, yo, get the fuck off your high horse, bitch. 1.00

03:08:24.400 like, like, yo, there were so many times I wish this nigga would just tell her to shut the fuck 1.00

03:08:29.300 up, bro. Like, you're talking too much. Shut the fuck up. Like, I hate when I see women like 1.00

03:08:35.800 emasculate their men right in front of them. And I know that their guy brings way more value than 1.00

03:08:38.720 they do. Like that shit fucking burns me, dude. It burns me. 95% of these girls are fucking useless, 1.00

03:08:48.320 dude. Okay. They have no real skill sets. They have no ability to do anything. 1.00

03:08:52.600 they just have tits and ass 1.00

03:08:54.740 and some Instagram pictures 1.00

03:08:55.600 that's all these bitches 1.00

03:08:56.600 really got at the end of the day bro 1.00

03:08:57.780 no real assets 1.00

03:08:59.400 just ass 1.00

03:09:00.080 never forget that shit 1.00

03:09:04.060 I don't care how bad she is 1.00

03:09:05.800 most of these women 1.00

03:09:07.960 have no fucking real assets 1.00

03:09:09.440 just ass 1.00

03:09:10.240 that's it 1.00

03:09:10.700 get rid of the ET man

03:09:13.220 no Steven Spielberg 1.00

03:09:14.620 fuck that shit 1.00

03:09:15.300 bitches are useless 1.00

03:09:17.080 alright anyway 1.00

03:09:18.640 let's get some higher IQ

03:09:20.660 conversation going on 1.00

03:09:21.880 uh so let's talk about cuba cuba's in a fucking crisis right now chat shit is nuts as you guys 0.99

03:09:28.600 know after we took venezuela or we got rid of maduro uh this led to an energy crash for cuba 0.99

03:09:34.940 because one of their main uh one of their main lifelines for energy basically was cooked and

03:09:40.940 then also we're putting an enormous amount of pressure on mexico as well to not give them

03:09:44.040 energy so this put the cuban government in a bad spot and obviously trump is doing this

03:09:48.180 to force some type of concession and capitulation

03:09:51.240 where it would allow for more U.S. representation in Cuba

03:09:55.460 because for a very long time, Cuba has been almost a...

03:09:59.420 They've been a proxy for our adversaries, like China and Russia.

03:10:02.960 For those that don't know, Cuban counterintelligence is actually very good,

03:10:06.440 and they work very closely with our adversaries, right? 0.69

03:10:10.480 Shout out to Withers is Cold with the Big 25.

03:10:16.860 Thank you very much.

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03:10:30.900 we don't scam

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03:10:47.320 All right. And with this is Cole. Thank you so much for the other five.

03:10:52.560 And we also cover politics and all the other shit, too. 0.80

03:10:55.300 An island under intensifying pressure and possibly approaching its breaking point as global crises compete for Washington's attention. 0.97

03:11:03.900 A U.S. State Department official says the fuel starved island appears willing to accept a one hundred million dollar aid package, a previously reported part of the deal.

03:11:14.220 So we create the problem, then give them the solution.

03:11:17.020 Also, right now, guys, Cuba only gets about two hours of energy. 1.00

03:11:20.200 So these niggas are lights out 22 hours a day, bro. 1.00

03:11:23.360 That's cooked. 1.00

03:11:25.700 22 hours a day, niggas are lights out. 1.00

03:11:27.420 It had been that Havana carry out what the State Department called meaningful reforms to its government. 1.00

03:11:34.420 And this comes after an extraordinary meeting between CIA director John Ratcliffe and high-level Cuban officials in Havana, as you can see there, including the minister of the...

03:11:45.420 Yeah, that's insane. 0.91

03:11:48.000 That's absolutely fucking insane that the director of the CIA went to Cuba. 1.00

03:11:55.080 That's fucking nuts. 1.00

03:11:58.160 Extremely unorthodox. 1.00

03:12:02.200 Okay, this guy's probably a part of the security detail.

03:12:04.220 I wonder who this is.

03:12:05.180 Who would protect?

03:12:07.120 No, I'm curious.

03:12:08.320 I'll keep playing the clip.

03:12:09.020 THE INTERIOR. THEIR DISCUSSIONS APPARENTLY MOSTLY CENTERED ON MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE ISSUES.

03:12:16.220 ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAPPENING DURING RARE PUBLIC PROTESTS IN HIRVANA,

03:12:20.700 AMID A SERIES OF ISLAND-WIDE BLACKOUTS AS WE BROUGHT YOUR ATTENTION YESTERDAY. 0.81

03:12:26.060 SOME OF THESE BLACKOUTS, BY THE WAY, HAVE LASTED UP TO 22 HOURS A DAY. 0.95

03:12:31.020 AND IT IS A DESPERATE SITUATION THAT IS EXPECTED TO GET WORSE. 0.99

03:12:35.260 Cuba says he has completely run out of diesel fuel and oil under a U.S. blockade.

03:12:41.480 Let's get more on all these strands.

03:12:43.820 Patrick Oppmann joins me from Havana.

03:12:46.120 Jennifer Hansler is in Washington.

03:12:47.780 Patrick, good to see you.

03:12:49.140 Let me start with you.

03:12:50.120 And first of all, this visit by the CIA director.

03:12:53.720 Just give us a sense of what the message was there and how it was received in Havana.

03:12:59.060 Oh, it's just striking that the same agency that, you know, for years tried to kill Fidel Castro with exploding cigars and poison dive suits and other ridiculous assassination plots arrived in Cuba yesterday in a big U.S. government plane that said the U.S. government on the side, you know, hardly James Bond material here, and sat down with his counterparts in Cuban intelligence and really laid out to them how... 0.90

03:13:25.060 how translation we know that you niggas work with the russians we know that you guys work with the 0.98

03:13:28.580 chinese we know that you guys work with hezbollah and all our adversaries you better fucking cut it 0.99

03:13:32.860 or else we're going to keep applying the pressure that's how the meeting probably went 0.97

03:13:36.800 that's probably how it went so i looked this up so cia's directive uh directors protective staff

03:13:45.300 dps and specialized highly trained federal law enforcement unit responsible for the 24 7

03:13:48.420 armed protection of senior intelligence community leaders including cia director of national 0.99

03:13:51.620 security intelligence so uh that's interesting i've never heard of this fucking agency 0.83

03:13:58.820 but the u.s government the trump administration feels uh that cuba is providing aid to the united 0.92

03:14:12.160 states enemies providing uh areas to uh operate chinese and russian spy bases is essentially

03:14:18.400 involved in intelligence operations against the U.S. and is working against U.S. purposes and how

03:14:24.100 this kind of activity needs to end. And if they don't get with the Trump administration's demands

03:14:30.840 that there will be consequences. And so I'm sure it was a very stark meeting. You know,

03:14:36.060 the Cuban side is saying, well, they laid out how Cuba is not a threat to the United States.

03:14:41.400 But I think we're well past that. The Trump administration has made up its mind they're

03:14:45.440 giving Cuba perhaps a final chance, in their words, to change its ways or face perhaps more

03:14:53.340 economic sanctions or even tougher measures. Of course, President Donald Trump has threatened

03:14:57.840 to take military action against the Cuban government, and that is something they take

03:15:02.000 very seriously at this moment, considering how badly the oil blockade has already impacted

03:15:07.780 their economy. And we'll talk about the humanitarian side in just a moment. Let me just go to Jen,

03:15:12.740 because, you know, Jen, Patrick and I were talking yesterday about the possibility, of course,

03:15:16.920 of this offer of $100 million that we're hearing now that Ireland appears willing to accept.

03:15:23.660 Do we have a sense from this meeting, the CIA, what you are hearing as well,

03:15:27.560 or what kind of reforms they're likely to see, right? They want to see and how quickly.

03:15:33.780 Well, Isa, in addition to those security reforms that Patrick laid out that came up in that meeting

03:15:38.400 with the CIA director yesterday. They are also pushing what they describe as economic reforms

03:15:43.860 on the island, essentially opening it up to private investment. This was something that

03:15:48.500 was a key focus of a different visit by U.S. officials last month to the island where they

03:15:53.940 met with senior Cuban officials, and they were saying they needed to make these economic reforms

03:15:58.820 in addition to those security reforms in the near term, or else they would continue to face

03:16:04.940 a catastrophic situation. Now, it is clear here that these economic restrictions are going to

03:16:13.200 remain in place unless these alleged reforms are taken by the Cuban government. However,

03:16:20.280 the State Department says that they are willing to offer this $100 million in humanitarian aid

03:16:25.200 only if it is given through the Catholic Church or independent organizations on the ground. They

03:16:31.380 say that this this is the key string that is attached to this offer that it has to be distributed

03:16:37.520 through these independent organizations now a senior state department official said that they

03:16:42.260 have been in touch they have reached out to the cuban government through what they describe

03:16:46.300 as a senior channel between the state department and senior leadership in havana about this aid

03:16:52.520 cuban officials have indicated that they would be willing to accept it if there weren't conditions 0.99

03:16:56.880 Here, let me give you guys an example of, like, a useless chick, right? 0.98

03:17:00.720 You look like this chick right here, right? 1.00

03:17:02.140 This Nina drama chick or whatever. 1.00

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03:17:21.000 You want to do all this shit when I'm an MMA fighter? 1.00

03:17:22.560 Bro, get the fuck out of here, bro. 1.00

03:17:23.520 Rolling around with niggas 1.00

03:17:26.240 Making me look like a clown 1.00

03:17:27.160 You know what I mean 0.85

03:17:29.860 And the thing is 1.00

03:17:33.520 Women like this bro 1.00

03:17:34.560 They're only getting access because they're females 1.00

03:17:36.100 No one really gives a shit about any of her commentary 1.00

03:17:38.980 These bitches are retarded nobody cares 1.00

03:17:40.600 But that's a red flag 1.00

03:17:43.140 When girls like leverage their looks 1.00

03:17:45.280 Or their connections with their guy 1.00

03:17:47.500 To do shit like that 1.00

03:17:49.260 Big red flag bro 1.00

03:17:50.320 Big big red flag

03:17:51.420 on it however it is clear here that the administration is trying to push this message 0.93

03:17:58.960 that if the suffering continues it is not on the u.s that it is on the crazy part is like yo nigga 1.00

03:18:04.280 you're cucking yourself for a bitch that got 843 viewers nigga like what are you doing what are you 1.00

03:18:09.420 doing you know like yo more guys need to put their foot down with their girl like yo i want to be an 1.00

03:18:19.180 influencer all right you want to be an influencer how about this you just influenced me to break up 1.00

03:18:23.280 with your dumb monkey ass fuck out of here bitch bruh yo if your girl ever says uh i want to be 1.00

03:18:30.360 an influencer you tell her okay no problem you've influenced me to break up with your ass bye 1.00

03:18:34.700 fuck out of here man 1.00

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03:18:47.820 if you're an able-bodied guy and you got some money, bro, get the fuck out of here, bitch. 1.00

03:18:50.820 Like, you don't need to work. Shut up. You could be my plus one. You could help me out. 1.00

03:18:54.520 Right? That's different. If she's working under your authority or some shit, that's different.

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03:19:03.140 influencers. Shut your dumb ass up. Bro, nobody gives a fuck about female influencers, man. 1.00

03:19:08.580 Nobody cares to listen to y'all. Y'all niggas are retarded. Okay? Dudes just want to get laid 1.00

03:19:12.480 and goon, man. Dudes just want to watch the goon, dude. Like, women need to understand this, man. 1.00

03:19:16.620 This is why Pokemon and Senna and all these other bitches have to constantly, like, do some, like, you know, covert thirst trap stream to keep niggas hooked, man. 1.00

03:19:23.900 Like, you're not fooling nobody. 1.00

03:19:25.300 Further anger among that population on the ground that is suffering these catastrophic humanitarian situations there, Issa.

03:19:33.080 Yeah, and we've seen this anger on the streets in the last several days.

03:19:36.940 Our Patrick Oppmann has been showing us that, of course, people taking to the streets very visibly, which is something that's very rare.

03:19:43.520 Patrick, let me go back to you.

03:19:45.160 add this element that we were just talking about there, how rare it is to see these protests.

03:19:50.140 And then these reports that are circulating across U.S. media that the U.S. is making moves

03:19:55.280 to indict Raul Castro, who, of course, is the brother of Fidel Castro. I want to play a short

03:19:59.980 clip from Representative Jimenez, who told CNN this. Have a listen. Yeah, I'm hearing those

03:20:08.060 rumors, too. There is a press conference on the 20th of May, which is Cuban Independence Day.

03:20:15.160 THAT IN MIAMI, IN THE FREEDOM TOWER, BY THE ATTORNEY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE U.S. ATTORNEY DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA,

03:20:25.900 WE'RE HEARING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE INDICTING REL CASTRO FOR ORDERING THE SHOOTDOWN OF THE BROTHERS TO THE RESCUE

03:20:31.700 FLIGHT BACK IN 1996, WHICH KILLED THREE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND ONE AMERICAN RESIDENT.

03:20:37.960 So, Patrick, I mean, how would this be received? What are you hearing about this?

03:20:47.140 You know, you can't overstate how Cubans who support the government would react to this.

03:20:52.340 You know, this isn't Nicolas Maduro or even Miguel Diaz-Canel. Both of them had their critics here.

03:20:57.760 Raul Castro was one of the leaders of the revolution. He's one of the historical leaders.

03:21:03.320 When you talk to people who support the government, they say they would lay down their life for him.

03:21:08.680 And I tend to take them at their word.

03:21:10.880 This is something that would galvanize the people that support the government.

03:21:14.000 But, you know, I was out last night where there were protests taking place.

03:21:16.800 People risking their freedom because you're not allowed to protest here because they are so desperate.

03:21:20.840 And they just say they want the situation to be over with.

03:21:23.520 You don't care about the politics when the food is spoiling in your fridge and your kids have nothing to eat and the power.

03:21:29.740 Yeah, guys, could you imagine, like, being without electricity?

03:21:33.320 Like, that's crazy, man.

03:21:34.780 Because as you guys know, oil is critical for energy purposes.

03:21:39.860 It's all for days and days, and you might get power for an hour or two a day.

03:21:44.480 And it's all to create leverage, man, create more influence in our sphere.

03:21:52.160 So, okay, let's go ahead and move on.

03:21:54.200 Let's cover some true crime real quick.

03:21:56.240 Okay, let's talk about the David case.

03:21:57.560 There's been some developments in there.

03:22:00.140 Will David take the stake? 1.00

03:22:02.020 This nigga's cooked, bro. 1.00

03:22:03.320 like oh man and for those of you that aren't aware a quick recap 0.95

03:22:09.120 david famous music artist got arrested a couple weeks ago he's being charged with uh the murder

03:22:17.400 of a 14 year old girl a girl that he was involved in a sexual relationship with the police went

03:22:21.940 ahead and searched a bunch of his phones devices etc found significant evidence that they were in

03:22:26.940 a romantic relationship the working theory right now by the prosecution is that he basically killed

03:22:32.540 her because she was going to go public about their sexual relationship which would be a career

03:22:37.240 destruction for him uh they're estimating that she died late august i think somewhere on honor

03:22:42.060 about august not august excuse me uh april 25th of 2025 so roughly a little over a year ago

03:22:47.700 and um he uh basically um she was killed dismembered the body was found in a tesla

03:22:56.200 which was registered in david's name several months later um in a parking lot in california

03:23:00.680 okay um and uh the head was cut off the body the body was chopped up there was bugs and you know

03:23:07.800 parasites sorry bugs and larvae all over the place it was very bad gruesome crime scene um

03:23:12.920 and uh the girl was a constant runaway and she died at 14 years old and he met her when she was

03:23:17.800 11 and he was 18 i think he's 21 now she died at 14 they met when he was 18 and she was 11

03:23:22.560 um and they were had a sexual relationship to include like videos i guess of them hooking up

03:23:26.640 and shit like that which all constitutes as you know child porn technically um so his album was 0.82

03:23:32.340 supposed to come out days after she died and they predict that they got into a fight the night 0.99

03:23:36.860 before they have the text message of this he told her to come to the house he got her an uber she

03:23:40.760 came and they haven't seen her since so they predict he killed her to shut her up so that

03:23:44.320 they wouldn't um so she wouldn't uh come out with this publicly um and yeah also it's important that

03:23:50.920 you guys understand um that the age of consent in california is 18 so under no circumstances

03:23:56.520 is what if he'd been covered with hooking up with this girl,

03:23:58.980 whether it be Romeo and Juliet laws.

03:24:00.380 I know there's some states where the age of consent is like, you know,

03:24:03.260 16 or 15 or 17, and, you know, there's Romeo and Juliet laws

03:24:06.840 where if there's a certain gap, three to five years,

03:24:09.880 it's, you know, it's kind of a defense to it.

03:24:12.920 But in this case, literally, there's no defense.

03:24:17.760 Age of consent is 18, hard line in California.

03:24:20.120 It is what it is, and bro would have been cooked.

03:24:22.020 So they predict that's the reason why he killed her,

03:24:24.420 to protect his career

03:24:26.260 because the album came out

03:24:26.920 literally days after

03:24:27.620 and he did several interviews

03:24:28.360 after as well

03:24:28.960 which is kind of chilling

03:24:29.720 but there you go

03:24:30.880 give me ones in the chat

03:24:31.540 if that all makes sense

03:24:32.220 now you guys should know

03:24:32.940 what the general facts

03:24:34.080 of the case are

03:24:34.760 give me ones

03:24:36.220 if that all makes sense

03:24:37.000 what would that even look like

03:24:38.620 what would he be asked

03:24:39.680 how would he explain

03:24:40.740 half the things

03:24:41.860 that he's accused of

03:24:42.960 bro ain't no way 1.00

03:24:43.720 this nigga's gonna take the stand 1.00

03:24:44.680 ain't no way 1.00

03:24:45.420 in this bombshell 1.00

03:24:46.680 that would be fucking retarded 1.00

03:24:47.760 the only time I've ever seen 1.00

03:24:48.740 taking a stand make sense

03:24:49.800 is kind of what me and Andrew

03:24:51.620 were discussing before

03:24:52.400 in self defense cases

03:24:54.140 That's the only time I've seen taking a stand making sense.

03:24:56.540 Murder case.

03:24:57.280 I'm bringing on a criminal defense attorney to break all of that down.

03:25:00.800 Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law & Crime.

03:25:03.420 I'm Jesse Weber.

03:25:06.760 Will David take the stand in his own trial?

03:25:10.340 It's a big question.

03:25:11.480 And at first I should tell you, if we even get to a trial, right?

03:25:14.840 We haven't even had the preliminary hearing.

03:25:16.920 Nah, he's going to need to fight it, bro.

03:25:19.200 Bro's going to, yo, if he doesn't fight this, he's going to get life.

03:25:23.720 OK, he's got or he might even get the death penalty.

03:25:26.740 The prosecutor is going to push for the death penalty, John.

03:25:29.660 Yet to see if there's enough evidence for this case to move forward toward trial.

03:25:34.200 That's now scheduled for the end of June.

03:25:35.640 But assuming the charges stick and assuming there's no plea deal and this goes to trial, will he testify?

03:25:42.100 What would he say? I mean, there appears to be a lot for him to address.

03:25:45.320 And I want to go through it because what would his possible explanations be?

03:25:50.300 assuming all the evidence that the prosecution claims they have that they present.

03:25:55.460 There are a lot of layers to this as we think about it.

03:25:57.840 And there's a lot at stake for him.

03:25:59.800 David, real name David Anthony Burke, facing charges.

03:26:03.080 He did hire a very good attorney, by the way.

03:26:05.460 It was a first-degree murder, continuous sexual abuse of a child under 14,

03:26:10.020 unlawful mutilation of human remains,

03:26:12.460 all in connection with the death of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez,

03:26:17.100 whose decomposed, dismembered body was reportedly found in a Tesla.

03:26:22.280 Now, what I predict, guys, and I've been talking to you guys about this for a bit,

03:26:25.280 I predict is defense is going to come to the thing and say,

03:26:28.560 look, okay, yeah, she was found dead.

03:26:30.560 Yeah, the body was chopped up, whatever.

03:26:31.920 But how can you prove that my client did it?

03:26:34.900 That's what I predict is going to be the defense strategy

03:26:36.780 is they're going to put the screws to the prosecution to say,

03:26:41.000 prove my client actually killed her.

03:26:42.700 in la back on september 8th of last year allegedly a tesla registered to david out in texas and

03:26:52.220 remember prosecutors have alleged special circumstances here right to get to life in

03:26:58.580 prison without the possibility of parole to get possibly the death penalty so they have alleged

03:27:03.120 murder of a witness murder for financial gain lying in wait they've alleged use of a deadly

03:27:07.740 and dangerous weapon sharp instrument the me's office concluded that celeste cause of death was

03:27:13.360 multiple penetrating injuries prosecutors have alleged that david murdered celeste to keep her

03:27:18.840 quiet that they were in an alleged illegal sexual relationship her being a minor that proven says

03:27:25.520 um just joy shout out to the oss i appreciate you proving yeah guys i might come back on later

03:27:30.060 tonight depending on how i feel after we do after hours i know we did a little bit of a shorter

03:27:34.160 stream today and i did fucking two hours on youtube but i do think today's episode was very 0.74

03:27:38.620 important that people need to see how defense cases work god forbid any of you guys ever see 0.86

03:27:43.060 find yourself in a self-defense situation like that where you get where you know you might get

03:27:46.920 arrested rogan and talman tatum are doubling down on theovan being crazy and now suicidal

03:27:50.960 uh due to him taking ssris are they when you where'd you see that here have you covered uh

03:27:56.420 honduras gate no uh i mugged my i mugged in my 20s everything you're saying is correct i gave

03:28:01.360 put women a long time ago uh harcia says i'm iron i'm glad one of my brothers introduced me to you

03:28:06.540 my dad used to be machista now he's a feminist both him and my oldest brother think i think

03:28:10.480 weird about one in a prenup and i have certain standards before yeah well they just don't get 0.55

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03:28:18.440 how long larry and her was married if only two years she's gonna she's not gonna get anything

03:28:21.580 um i don't know i think they were together between three to five uh is there a way to lower the 0.98

03:28:27.460 shipping price on the hoodies to Canada uh no nigga stop being a brokie I don't I don't know 1.00

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03:28:37.900 you can't afford it you can't afford it bro I don't know what to say you know you decide to 1.00

03:28:44.200 live in Canada bruh Canada sucks we charge a fagot tax so uh you know if you live in Canada 1.00

03:28:52.040 you get the fagot tax sorry uh only a fucking idiot would ever get married to this day and age 1.00

03:28:56.940 marriage is jewish guayma have no obligation to get married mr morpheus remember he didn't make 1.00

03:29:00.980 her sign a prenup either yeah i know it's fucking retarded uh how i'm gonna try my man i don't know 0.92

03:29:10.880 how long i'll uh when i'll be back but next time in miami i'm gonna bring 10 extra bands because 0.95

03:29:15.360 i have to meet you paul's normal working the streets of miami today and knowing we could

03:29:18.960 possibly be so close bugs me i'm not doing uh what i can to buy an uh to buy an opportunity

03:29:23.520 to meet you i2 understand business and your time is money so thank you man for all you do you save

03:29:27.420 lives and you can help thousands of men thank you for that bro i appreciate it yeah no dude i literally 0.83

03:29:30.920 woke up and just jumped right on stream man i literally live and breathe fucking being on 0.85

03:29:36.560 stream at this point withers you said it before on after hours you never fucking miss uh so red 0.92

03:29:42.000 pill on topics are you going to react to it i'm assuming that's a little link you sent me withers 0.94

03:29:46.360 w fucking breakdown with android educating on self-defense such a nice breath of fresh air of 0.86

03:29:49.700 a higher IQ conversation after they went last night's 0.99

03:29:51.560 after hours. Got you, man. If the judge

03:29:53.680 is libtard or a DEI hire, I meant, yep. 1.00

03:29:56.360 R.O.S. says, join the Navy, 1.00

03:29:57.860 go reserve or active, have a good job, potential

03:29:59.500 career. Wait until we get done with this

03:30:01.420 Iran shit, bro. Olympia 13th, 1.00

03:30:03.760 so it all comes down to the judge. If the judge

03:30:05.400 is at a library or a DEI hire, well, that's if

03:30:07.640 you decide to go with the pre-trial Olympia.

03:30:10.100 Olympian. Owboys, Larry's

03:30:11.820 wife probably left him because of the fame and 1.00

03:30:13.680 attention she was getting. Exactly. Exactly. 1.00

03:30:16.160 It got to her head, bro. 0.99

03:30:16.820 it got to her head bro i'm telling you man like women don't women are horrible people when they

03:30:21.920 have an ego bro it's really bad cobra love you big bro appreciate you uh s-o-u-i this guy david 1.00

03:30:28.700 is going to have the weirdest fan base listening to his music after that's on his pedo murder fag 0.99

03:30:32.280 lib yeah yeah yeah a lot of people that listen to him are weirdos i ain't gonna lie it's like 1.00

03:30:35.820 some weird emo faggot music she was allegedly going to expose him that she was allegedly going 0.99

03:30:40.840 to ruin his financially lucrative career and that he allegedly murdered her and prosecutors claim 0.99

03:30:46.320 that on April 23rd, 2025,

03:30:48.820 he allegedly lured Celeste to his home,

03:30:50.940 stabbed her repeatedly, watched her bleed out,

03:30:53.140 and then allegedly proceeded to order supplies online 0.93

03:30:56.580 to engage in the dismemberment of her body

03:30:58.820 and cover-up of the alleged crime.

03:31:00.900 Chainsaws, body bag, laundry bags, inflatable pool.

03:31:03.720 Prosecutors have claimed a combination

03:31:04.900 of surveillance footage, cellular data.

03:31:06.800 Oh yeah, also, we might do a call.

03:31:08.680 You know what?

03:31:09.060 We did a call-in show the other day

03:31:10.280 and it worked out pretty well.

03:31:11.780 So we might start incorporating call-in shows

03:31:13.760 for OSS guys.

03:31:15.460 So...

03:31:16.320 that's something else we might do. DNA evidence, witness testimony, all purportedly tied David to

03:31:22.120 these crimes. And we're going to get to that. But is he going to take the stand? And if he did,

03:31:27.440 how does he explain all of that? How does he address all of that? How would he do under

03:31:32.020 cross-examination by the prosecution by Beth Silverman? We did a whole episode on her as a

03:31:38.940 prosecutor. It's called at one point the sniper because she had at one point never lost a murder

03:31:43.300 case. This is what I want to talk about. All right, so now it is time to bring on John Day,

03:31:48.240 criminal defense attorney all the way from the West Coast, comes here. Thank you very much.

03:31:52.260 Glad we got the memo to dress the same. This is good taste. I like it. Look, let's start here.

03:31:58.100 It's always the defendant's right to take the stand. It's the defendant's choice.

03:32:03.720 What are those conversations like? So in this case, the defendant would have to have

03:32:08.180 an incredibly good explanation as to why

03:32:10.520 the prosecution says he ordered

03:32:12.520 a body bag online.

03:32:14.740 Plastic pool. Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you guys

03:32:16.660 this. Nigga ordered chainsaws, a plastic pool 0.64

03:32:18.660 and a body bag from like, what was 1.00

03:32:20.700 it? Like one of these fucking delivery 1.00

03:32:22.520 apps. Like not 1.00

03:32:23.260 Instacarts, but there was

03:32:26.540 another one.

03:32:29.160 Someone in the chat is going to put it in here. 0.99

03:32:31.160 I forget the fucking app he used. 0.99

03:32:33.560 Postmates, there you go. 1.00

03:32:34.580 Yeah, nigga used Postmates. 1.00

03:32:35.460 i think he was postmates and amazon fucking retarded chainsaws could you imagine yeah i 1.00

03:32:42.700 just killed a bitch let me go ahead a minor at that uh let me go ahead and just uh get a body 0.99

03:32:47.060 bag uh what else do i need okay i need some cleaner uh some plastic gloves oh chainsaw would 1.00

03:32:51.620 be good too like what nigga what bruh this guy thinks this shit's halo too double kill 1.00

03:33:01.160 Oh, we'll get to all that. 1.00

03:33:02.620 I think, like, generally speaking, what is that conversation?

03:33:05.620 All right, the conversation is the defendant has the right to make the call.

03:33:09.140 If he tells his lawyers, I'm going to testify,

03:33:11.720 those lawyers have to respect his wishes.

03:33:14.020 Yeah, but there's no way they're going to put him on the stand, dude.

03:33:16.560 No defense attorney that's half a brain would put their defendant on the stand.

03:33:21.700 The only time I've ever seen it even make sense is, like, in self-defense cases.

03:33:24.440 And, like, we discussed with Andrew, it would be like a last-minute decision

03:33:27.960 after you hear everyone else's testimony.

03:33:30.360 There's a lot of discussion that leads up to that, but the defendant has to understand

03:33:35.500 what the consequences are, that he's subject to cross-examination.

03:33:39.160 And that cross-examination is where you can completely get unraveled and cooked.

03:33:45.680 By some really good prosecutors, that if his story falls apart anywhere along the line,

03:33:51.380 the jury is going to notice that.

03:33:53.540 So it's a tough conversation to have with your client if you're a defense lawyer.

03:33:58.140 You've got to explain all the pitfalls, all the problems, all the things that could happen.

03:34:02.100 And in very rare instances, yes, it makes sense for a defendant to take the stand in a self-defense case.

03:34:08.400 A case like this, it's not going to happen.

03:34:10.280 There you go. He even knows. Self-defense is like the one exception where it can make sense.

03:34:15.420 Let me ask you this. Well, we just don't know. We don't know.

03:34:18.600 I mean, a criminal defendant could say, I think I'm the best one to tell the story.

03:34:22.740 Do they do practice? Like, would you do rehearsals with them, practice, mock?

03:34:27.040 100 percent it's called the preparing your witness for trial when i was an agent we would

03:34:31.180 prepare our witnesses all the time you prepare you prepare the law enforcement you prepare the

03:34:36.120 non you prepare the uh the law enforcement you prepare the regular witnesses you prepare all 0.92

03:34:40.240 that shit so yeah oh also important uh agreed it'll be a lot tougher these days for men to 0.98

03:34:48.280 get women if they're broken fat feminine men are broken fat everyone in the audience should always 0.99

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03:34:55.320 accountability and monthly fitness zoom calls them are no brokies yeah guys go ahead and get

03:34:58.960 with one chest man if you guys were fast slobs in the chat it's where we're going bro we're going

03:35:03.900 you got to have it all like you can't just be uh you know have money and that's it examination

03:35:09.060 yeah you would run uh lots and lots of mock crosses you would want your client to be prepared

03:35:14.180 for all the bad things that the prosecution is going to bring up you want your client to understand

03:35:18.360 what's at stake here and if your client uh you know people say well what should i say when i'm

03:35:23.400 on the stand, and I tell them, well, tell the truth, because it's the easiest thing to remember.

03:35:27.340 So you've got to be able to make sure your client has an ability to tell the truth,

03:35:31.300 look the jurors in the eye, and say, this is what happened. This is really what happened.

03:35:35.480 And understanding that they're going to be subject to withering cross-examination by the

03:35:39.760 prosecutor. How do they come off genuine, though? Because it's very high stakes. They're trying to

03:35:45.780 appeal to the jury. Sometimes you look at people, it looks like a manufactured answer, and I do

03:35:50.560 wonder what's the balance there? Because if you're prepping them, how do they not come off

03:35:54.060 looking scripted? Well, that's one of the problems. And if your client is, say, someone who's in the

03:35:57.720 entertainment business, someone who's an actor, someone who's on stage, that's a problem. That's

03:36:02.960 going to be an issue that you've got to deal with because the juror is going to say, this person is

03:36:06.360 used to putting on a persona. This person is used to performing. And so if you're the lawyer, you've

03:36:11.460 got to be able to control that and make sure that the image that the actual defendant who's coming

03:36:16.380 cross on the stand is believable. Now, I have to imagine if he were to take the stand, he would be

03:36:20.760 cross-examined by the lead prosecutor in this case, Beth Silverman. I did a whole sidebar episode on

03:36:26.420 her. She's called the sniper at one point. That's how good she is. Would you study her tapes? Would

03:36:30.940 you study how she's cross-examined witnesses in the past? I would get every, it's like looking at

03:36:35.380 game tapes in a football game. That's a real thing though, right? It is a real thing. You want to know

03:36:38.820 what her style is. You want to know how she approaches that. And if you're a prosecutor, 0.94

03:36:42.940 That's what you live for, is the ability to cross-examine a defendant on the stand.

03:36:47.360 That is the best.

03:36:48.040 Oh, wow. Breaking news, Chad.

03:36:50.820 Apparently, the prosecutor is going to try to block Chad the Builder from using his fundraiser money toward his bond.

03:36:58.640 That's crazy.

03:37:03.260 The DNOs are to fight charges on this side, so they'll try to keep them in then.

03:37:06.700 Their attorneys aren't supposed to decide how private fundraising money gets used.

03:37:09.320 This sets a wild precedent. Yeah.

03:37:10.480 I mean, they could try all day, bro.

03:37:12.540 They could try all day.

03:37:15.540 If they're actually successful, I'd be, like, shocked. 0.98

03:37:25.940 Oh, shit, I made decision cancel tonight's party host at Bacar, 0.92

03:37:28.600 which was supposed to be the people and antennas of this party. 1.00

03:37:31.520 Yeah, this shit was crazy, bro. 1.00

03:37:32.880 This bitch right here, bruh, this shit, oh, my God. 1.00

03:37:37.680 I saw this show. 1.00

03:37:38.460 I was like, yo, what the fuck is going on? 1.00

03:37:42.540 See, women can do this shit all day, right? 1.00

03:37:45.740 With, like, no consequence. 1.00

03:37:50.760 You're just trying to embarrass this poor dude. 1.00

03:37:53.820 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

03:37:56.880 No, you're trying to embarrass this guy, and it's disgusting what you're doing. 1.00

03:38:01.100 You're taking advantage of him.

03:38:04.040 Right? 1.00

03:38:05.520 This disgusting whore, bro. 1.00

03:38:06.900 Because men are down bad. 1.00

03:38:10.020 No, no, no, no, no. 0.97

03:38:11.140 men are down bad and you know that and you're trying to take advantage of them you're an evil 1.00

03:38:15.600 person you're evil and you know that some bbl whore no you're you're an you're an evil person 1.00

03:38:23.940 no you're evil and i think this is a girl that she'd be punching niggas on camera too i think 1.00

03:38:27.700 if i'm not mistaken this chick and you're taking advantage and you know it you're taking advantage 1.00

03:38:32.460 of this poor guy who can't get a girl otherwise no you're just seeing that people sit there and

03:38:38.540 say the manosphere like you know is bad for men because we exploit them whatever bro we protect 1.00

03:38:43.460 niggas from this bullshit like bro we protect niggas from this shit bro like this shit is crazy 1.00

03:38:59.520 chat no no no no i get it you're like this generation it's so hard to get women bottom 1.00

03:39:08.420 80 percent of women go for top 20 percent of men this leaves guys like this doing shit like that 0.98

03:39:13.820 and you know that and you're taking advantage so you gotta stop i am yeah but then they'll sit 0.99

03:39:17.800 there and they'll say oh yo guys in the red pill like you know prey on men and shit like that's 0.98

03:39:22.680 like no bro like we we actually teach you so that you don't get preyed on bro 1.00

03:39:27.320 Like I don't want to ever see any of you niggas 1.00

03:39:31.580 Ever be in a situation like this where some bitch 1.00

03:39:33.520 Just cause she has some tits 1.00

03:39:34.880 And a fake ass 1.00

03:39:36.280 She has you on a fucking collar chain 1.00

03:39:38.360 Like this is embarrassing 1.00

03:39:39.480 You know what I mean 1.00

03:39:41.440 The red pill is so that you don't get exploited by women like this 1.00

03:39:47.840 That's what this knowledge is for 1.00

03:39:49.100 So you know your worth and you don't let bitches ever fucking do this shit to you 1.00

03:39:52.040 And honestly it's for her benefit too 1.00

03:39:54.280 Women don't want to fucking be able to do this shit to you 1.00

03:39:55.760 You think she has any respect for this nigga bro 1.00

03:39:56.980 no you're so you're evil oh of course but not like no of course oh my god no you are an evil 1.00

03:40:03.440 person no you're an evil person no you're evil and you're uh you know it's funny like girls like 0.99

03:40:11.280 this they want you to degrade them like she's the dude that's smashing her probably is pulling her 1.00

03:40:14.700 doing the shit that she does to him but she actually likes it this guy's a weirdo this is 0.99

03:40:18.920 not natural at all. Yeah, these bitches are the worst. Anyway, let's get back to the hierarchy 1.00

03:40:31.540 shit. It's part of your job if that ever happens. It doesn't happen very often, but I would look at 0.99

03:40:36.420 every single case that you can find where there's video, audio, something to show how this prosecutor

03:40:42.000 prepares and how this prosecutor delivers. Now, we'll get into the substance of what he's going

03:40:46.600 know, what he would testify to and what that would look like, but generally speaking, young

03:40:52.380 guy, celebrity, big following, haven't heard him a ton, like, you know, I guess in interviews

03:40:58.060 and things like that.

03:40:58.900 How does that affect him?

03:41:00.040 Like, how does that affect how he's viewed, how he's analyzed on the stand?

03:41:04.260 How do you think a jury might look at that?

03:41:05.760 Well, it's a problem going into it because the jurors are going to have some sense that

03:41:09.060 this person is a celebrity, some sense that this person has a public persona, so it's

03:41:13.120 different than having an ordinary defendant off the street who doesn't have a backstory of being

03:41:18.700 able to present a side of themselves to the public. It's going to be a disadvantage out of the gate,

03:41:23.780 but if you're skillful as a defense lawyer and your defendant is able to understand what's at

03:41:28.980 stake, you can sometimes work it so that their public persona is not necessarily the real person

03:41:35.140 that you see on the stand. It's very hard to do that, but he would go into this thing with a

03:41:40.240 disadvantage right at the start. Because remember where he would testify in the course of the trial

03:41:44.480 the jury would hear all the prosecution's evidence and I'll save this idea about when they might call

03:41:49.860 him to testify but again he has to address everything the prosecution presented. You said

03:41:55.440 before this is not like the typical case where a defendant would take the stand. It's not a

03:41:58.760 self-defense case. Why is this not the typical case that a defendant would take the stand? Well for

03:42:03.280 example in a self-defense case the defendant has to say I did what I did for this reason. My life

03:42:08.180 was in danger i felt like i was going to get hurt yeah you have to concede the fact that you actually

03:42:12.120 you were the perpetrator you have to concede that in a self-defense case but again um that's how

03:42:18.000 you're able to you know raise up the self-defense cases by taking acknowledgement that you acted in

03:42:23.900 self-defense and you shot him that's one of the negatives but in doing that that's why your

03:42:28.820 testimony matters so much unless you have other witnesses that could hit the stand for you

03:42:31.880 that were there he might have witnessed it stand that right the jury has to understand what led up

03:42:36.660 to that ideally you get in a use of force situation and you shoot somebody your wife or

03:42:40.620 your girlfriend's with you and she saw everything or she recorded it that would be awesome because 0.99

03:42:44.120 now you don't got to say shit you know what i'm saying ideally you never want to talk to the cops 0.97

03:42:48.460 chat ever talking to the cops almost never helps you ever okay it just doesn't don't talk to them 0.99

03:42:56.540 niggas bro ever a case like this you're simply explain trying to explain away the all the facts 0.91

03:43:04.440 that the jury has heard from the prosecution and the defense case in chief 0.92

03:43:08.700 if they've gone and had something presented before the defendant testifies.

03:43:12.780 But they've got to have a really good explanation

03:43:15.720 that addresses every single fact that the prosecution has put out already.

03:43:20.480 I think I have a potential idea, maybe totally crazy,

03:43:24.620 kind of something what we're talking about.

03:43:26.120 Just keep that to the side for a second. We'll talk about it.

03:43:28.180 One more side note.

03:43:29.120 The reason this came up is because I'm thinking about the Alec Murdoch case.

03:43:32.160 But whatever a criminal defendant says on the stand, if they take the stand,

03:43:37.740 that can potentially be used against them in a retrial.

03:43:41.380 Like, I'm wondering, Murdoch took the stand in his first trial.

03:43:43.780 Can it come in in the second trial?

03:43:45.560 So here, if David were to take the stand and he gets, let's say, convicted,

03:43:50.480 and then whatever, it's overturned.

03:43:51.920 By the law, whatever they say on the stand can be used against them in some way,

03:43:56.580 come into evidence in a second trial?

03:43:57.900 Can be used against them.

03:43:58.840 It's a statement under oath.

03:44:00.240 They're sitting on the witness stand.

03:44:01.320 they're sworn in. So everything they say in a first trial, they better make sure that it matches

03:44:06.160 any testimony they give in a second trial. That's why generally you don't want your defendant,

03:44:10.480 your client, giving multiple statements in a case because it's got to be absolutely consistent or

03:44:15.280 else the jury's going to understand there's a problem. We're about to get into all this,

03:44:18.480 but is it only used in the second trial if that person decides to take the stand again,

03:44:23.480 or can it be used in the prosecution's case in chief? It can be used in the prosecution's case

03:44:27.720 chief because it's already a statement that they've made under oath right so you can impeach

03:44:32.040 your if your defendant takes the stand and he said something that's different you impeach him again

03:44:35.880 this is a prosecutor's dream right but you could you play the prior testimony from the first trial

03:44:40.360 for the jury and using like an opening statement you would play the prior testimony if the if there

03:44:44.360 were cameras in the courtroom yeah video you'd have something as a statement by that defendant

03:44:49.320 and it that's why it's so important to be consistent obviously let's get into the substance

03:44:53.560 here. My first question is, what is he going to say? How would he explain if he took the stand

03:44:58.380 his alleged relationship with Celeste? So I want to go into this. From the evidence list,

03:45:02.480 from the prosecution's pretrial brief, it says, quote, the description of photographs depicting

03:45:07.760 the victim naked as well as while she was engaged with defendant and sexual activity when she was

03:45:12.460 And just so you guys know, that in itself is going to bury him. Let's say they don't get him

03:45:15.380 for the murder they're gonna get him on the you know on the um on the sexual charges with a minor

03:45:24.000 and i think that's what the defense is gonna try to say look they were in a relationship yes she

03:45:29.240 was underage but hey he didn't kill her he liked he loved her blah blah he's they're gonna they're

03:45:35.140 gonna try to paint him as a good boyfriend that would never hurt her and uh and that someone else

03:45:42.060 killed her that's what i predicted defense is going to do they're going to argue he didn't

03:45:47.280 kill her somebody else killed her he was a loving boyfriend he did xyz for her yes that's a problem 0.98

03:45:52.520 but he's not a murderer yes you might call him a pedo yes you might call him uh a perv but he's 0.98

03:45:59.200 not a murderer and i think that's what they're going to probably try to do 13 as this evidence 0.82

03:46:05.080 constitutes child sexual abuse material the photographs themselves will not be presented

03:46:10.000 while all possible charges that could be proven were not filed,

03:46:13.020 the CSAM is proof of their ongoing sexual relationship

03:46:15.640 while the victim was 13 and 14 years old.

03:46:18.580 Numerous text messages between defendant and the victim

03:46:21.120 evidencing their sexual relationship.

03:46:23.060 Okay, Jack says, would you recommend a person 21 years old

03:46:25.260 who has over $100,000 in savings and runs their own business

03:46:28.060 to invest in properties with all the money and savings

03:46:29.860 or keep that savings in the search and put money from salary

03:46:32.220 or advice other than that in real estate?

03:46:33.700 Look, it doesn't matter where the money comes from.

03:46:36.040 Just ensure that you have three to six months of savings

03:46:37.840 after you put the down payment on the house.

03:46:42.900 So you want that money on top of what you're going to invest.

03:46:47.060 Does that make sense?

03:46:48.380 So have your three to six months of rainy day funds,

03:46:51.960 preferably a year if you could do it, right?

03:46:54.540 Then anything outside of that needs to be invested.

03:46:57.560 Cool?

03:46:59.100 Pregnancy, abortion, use of plan B emergency.

03:47:01.880 And shout out to the jocks for being a huge supporter

03:47:05.100 and single-handedly alongside some others

03:47:07.660 helping out with being able to get us to do these college tours.

03:47:11.780 And just so you guys know, we are going to be at the University UCLA May 28th, chat.

03:47:18.520 We are confirmed for UCLA May 28th, Injus.

03:47:22.220 Okay, so very excited to announce that for you guys.

03:47:25.140 If you live in Los Angeles, make sure to come out.

03:47:27.760 We are going to be there, UCLA, 12 o'clock. 0.99

03:47:33.620 Shit, I'll have to cover this one on the next one in Russia. 0.99

03:47:37.660 UCLA, let me see if I can find the, let's go Uncensored America. 0.99

03:47:55.340 Here we go. 1.00

03:47:57.980 UCLA, Thursday, May 28th, Wilson Plaza, 12 p.m., niggas. 1.00

03:48:02.940 Okay? 1.00

03:48:03.800 I will be there.

03:48:05.960 So pull up if you're in L.A.

03:48:07.660 This is not a case where he can say, oh, it was, you know, consensual.

03:48:27.740 How does he explain that?

03:48:29.280 How does he explain it?

03:48:30.060 Right.

03:48:30.520 California, age of consent is 18.

03:48:32.780 So here's evidence from the prosecution that this relationship, the sexual relationship,

03:48:37.400 it began when she was 13 and he was 18. That's the allegation. Yeah, that's the allegation from

03:48:41.760 the prosecution. So if you're the defendant, you've got that to explain. You've got to explain

03:48:45.900 why there was a relationship, how it started, what the context was. I mean, I didn't even know.

03:48:51.120 Okay, hold on. None of that, if he's taking the stand, is going to be easy for a criminal

03:48:55.880 defendant. Does he deny it? Does he say, hey, listen, this is not true. You can't believe

03:49:00.040 what Celeste wrote. Kind of did an episode on defenses like I'm not in this photo. You know, 0.94

03:49:04.820 somebody sent me this photo. I mean, or does he have to admit this part of the case?

03:49:11.340 Again, that's the question. How fine a point do you cut at that point? Because

03:49:15.020 if there's evidence that, yeah, he was engaged in that, that's more specific than that. I mean,

03:49:20.280 he can certainly say, well, I'm not in the photos. I'm not, this was simply a discussion.

03:49:25.180 There was no actual, you know, there's no eyewitnesses. There's nothing else to show

03:49:28.680 to back up any kind of illicit relationship between the two people when there were those

03:49:33.140 ages. But that's a tough one, because if the idea is planted in the jury's mind, it's going to be

03:49:37.420 very, very hard to get that out of there. I think it's like this more than even, and we'll get into

03:49:41.880 it, the murder and the alleged murder and the alleged cover-up that really is tough to explain.

03:49:46.580 I mean, I also want to know, I did a whole episode on whether or not, given this potential, this

03:49:52.520 alleged digital evidence, could he be facing federal charges, federal charges regarding

03:49:56.640 possession of child sexual abuse material. I even speculated at one point, could you be looking at

03:50:02.200 federal sex trafficking yeah she was also uh she also was jealous that he was like talking to other

03:50:06.520 girls to chat i think that was a base of the argument she complained saying all we do is have

03:50:10.380 sex um i want something better for myself and she didn't like that he was seeing other girls

03:50:16.440 that was another base of the arguments charge if you're talking about a minor and you know taking

03:50:21.620 her on these trips and there's a travel component so do you think whatever he says if he were to

03:50:27.020 take the stand could be used against him in a federal case yeah i mean there are potential

03:50:30.820 federal charges here there's evidence that yeah the digital stuff especially there was transportation

03:50:35.200 across and moving the girl around because he went to vegas where i think he took her to i think she

03:50:39.260 went to like rolling loud and shit like that so yeah that all is going to constitute it could be

03:50:43.620 federal because it's transporting uh across state lines and just so you guys know um when you cross

03:50:48.020 um if the for when it comes to human trafficking if the person is under 18 they can't consent so

03:50:55.020 it's automatic human trafficking automatic human trafficking federally line for sex with a minor

03:51:01.640 things like that not only that but also the digital images of the minor if that's what there

03:51:05.600 is so yeah anything if they're an adult then you need to prove force and coercion all the other

03:51:09.780 shit but if they're a minor automatic human trafficking even if it was consensual he says

03:51:14.040 on the stand in a state murder case could certainly be used against them in any kind of federal 0.98

03:51:18.020 prosecution that takes place after that now i am jumping around a bit but i think that this could

03:51:22.400 be very tough for him to explain as well and this goes to the mutilation and murder charge so after

03:51:28.000 they claim prosecutors claim that david lured celeste to his place on april 23rd and killed her

03:51:33.820 shortly after that's the allegation there's this quote again this is from the pre-trial brief

03:51:37.840 tellingly defendants subsequently purchased tools to carry out his plot to dismember dispose of the

03:51:43.120 victim's body on april 24th 2025 defendant ordered a shovel from home depot that was delivered to his

03:51:48.640 home from Postmates. On May 1st, 2025, defendant ordered and subsequently Amazon delivered two

03:51:53.100 chainsaws to his home. On May 5th, 2025, defendant ordered and Amazon subsequently delivered

03:51:57.940 a body bag, heavy-duty laundry bags, a blue inflatable pool to his home. He made these

03:52:03.020 purchases under the fake name Victoria Mendez. On May 8th, 2025, defendant returned to the same

03:52:08.940 area in Santa Barbara County, leaving his home around 1130 p.m. He returned to the area again

03:52:13.800 on May 31st, 2025. This is an isolated site off SR 154 where the victim's identification was

03:52:20.740 subsequently discovered in January, 2026. Additionally, on July 7th, 2025, defendant

03:52:26.620 ordered and subsequently Amazon delivered a burn cage to his home under the same fake name as part

03:52:32.380 of his plan to incinerate evidence. How does he explain those very specific purchases at that

03:52:40.160 time, assuming this is true, assuming these allegations are true, assuming prosecution has

03:52:44.280 the receipts to back this up. What does he say? Someone else bought it? Yeah, assuming that's true.

03:52:49.120 I mean, I've been racking my brain as a defense lawyer thinking, how would you address that?

03:52:53.320 What would you say? I mean, the body bag. I went online to see if you can order body bags. Yes,

03:52:57.660 you can. Now that's part of my search history, unfortunately, that you can get body bags online.

03:53:02.400 But things like the chainsaws, the blue plastic pool, the idea that there's a, you know, the burn

03:53:06.580 box all those things i mean the evidence is really hard to refute if you have an explanation for that

03:53:11.520 like there was some professional reason he needed these things there was some like a music video

03:53:15.760 the chainsaw is gonna be crazy uh music watch the explanation for that one's gonna be hilarious

03:53:20.600 but at all times uh right so she was chopped up in pieces chat oh um is it a coincidence is that

03:53:26.960 just these are things that i needed and here's the explanation for why i needed them that's tough

03:53:31.140 though body bags are not part of your usual amazon delivery and then you go to this idea about the

03:53:36.300 the santa barbara trip like a very odd place to allegedly be taking a trip at this time because

03:53:40.460 it says moreover defendant took horrifying measures to destroy and discard the victim's

03:53:44.420 body after placing her body into the blue inflatable pool to prevent her blood from

03:53:48.360 spilling onto his garage floor defendant used a chainsaw and perhaps other tools to cut off her

03:53:53.340 limbs small blue plastic fragments were found embedded in the victim's remains which were

03:53:59.040 collected by the los angeles county medical examiner's department the fragments were

03:54:02.320 analyzed by the LAPD's Forensic Science Division Trace Analysis Unit. An expert was able to make

03:54:07.520 a physical fit match from the blue fragments to the blue inflatable pool purchased by defendant

03:54:11.760 in May in 2025. In order to distance himself from the victim, he amputated her left ring and pinky

03:54:17.040 fingers because her ring finger contained a tattoo of his name. Her fingers have not been recovered.

03:54:22.960 Defendant then placed her head and torso into the cadaver bag he purchased. He placed her limbs into

03:54:27.760 a garbage bag which he deposited into his front trunk, laying the cadaver bag on top.

03:54:32.440 For several weeks or possibly months, defendant left the victim's body to decompose inside

03:54:38.160 his Tesla.

03:54:39.160 Okay, John, here's the thing.

03:54:40.160 I've talked about this before.

03:54:41.160 I'm sure there could be a battle of experts about, is there a precise match there?

03:54:44.980 What's her cause of death?

03:54:45.980 I am wondering, and this is something I'm speculating, I'm glad I have you.

03:54:49.600 Is there a possibility he takes the stand and said, yeah, I got rid of her body.

03:54:55.580 I did it.

03:54:56.580 but I didn't kill her. I didn't murder her. You know, we've seen this in the past in various

03:55:01.240 murders. It happened before. I didn't do it. I just got rid of the body so they wouldn't think

03:55:05.520 it was me. Prosecutions where the claim is she died of natural causes. I got scared. Still a

03:55:11.580 serious felony, but I decided to dispose of the body. That was wrong of me, but I didn't kill her

03:55:18.280 because the prosecution is going to have to establish. We have all the circumstantial

03:55:22.480 evidence. Prosecution's going to have to establish in the minds of the jury beyond a reasonable

03:55:26.620 doubt that he did kill her and it wasn't just she died for some other reason and I got scared

03:55:32.420 and disposed of the body this way. We have seen that in other prosecutions. It's tough. It's a

03:55:36.480 tough defense. I feel like, and I've mentioned this case so many times, but it was one that just

03:55:40.160 stands out, the James Scandarito case out in Florida. I mean, this guy went on the stand

03:55:44.760 and testified in graphic detail, said his father died, I believe, like from an overdose. He didn't

03:55:50.660 murder him. And he described in graphic detail what it was like to dismember his own father's

03:55:57.440 body because he panicked. And the way that he testified, I mean, the jury bought it. They

03:56:03.580 found him not guilty of killing his father, but with respect to discarding of the body.

03:56:09.160 And I think it was kind of like the way how real he was about it and how uncomfortable he looked

03:56:13.700 about it, almost disgusted. They believed it. And I wonder if that's something, I don't know what

03:56:19.180 the defense is going to do, but them saying, you know, he's not the cause of Celeste's death.

03:56:23.920 Yeah, the charges for improperly disposing of a body, cutting up a corpse, they're certainly less

03:56:30.140 than a murder charge. So if you are so convincing on the stand that you can convince a jury that

03:56:35.500 that's what happened, that may be the only thing you've got. Well, now it goes to the idea what

03:56:38.880 did happen to Celeste, right? So what would he testify to? I go back to the filing. It says at

03:56:43.200 approximately 8 40 p.m on april 23rd 2025 all right let's go on uh because we're getting close

03:56:49.260 to the time so real quick guys uh russia launched the biggest air attack since the wars began a lot

03:56:56.100 of people have not been talking about this i want to bring a little bit of attention to this

03:56:58.780 the war in russia is heating up you know putin you know it's kind of interesting whenever there's

03:57:03.260 other geopolitical conflicts going on uh putin kind of like you know makes some moves on

03:57:07.920 Ukraine that no one is um no one's paying attention to so this is pretty crazy right here

03:57:15.160 this has been the biggest sustained attack on Ukraine since the war began wave after wave after

03:57:22.480 wave of devastating Russian drone and missile attacks across the country more than 1,600 in

03:57:29.080 total since Wednesday night this video showing a drone slamming into a railway yard close to

03:57:34.800 President Zelensky's hometown Kriviri, Putin's military striking energy, water and transport

03:57:41.400 infrastructure, but also hitting residential buildings. The capital, Kiev, repeatedly hit

03:57:47.020 this nine-story residential building collapsing after a Russian drone strike. Rescue workers

03:57:52.320 scrambling through the debris, searching for survivors. At least 20 sites suffering damage

03:57:57.620 in the city, including a school, according to President Zelensky. At least 15 killed and more

03:58:02.920 than 130 injured across the country. Vladimir Putin using the cover of the Trump-Xi summit

03:58:08.620 to launch this devastating attack. Unusually, the barrage saw hundreds of drones attack Ukraine

03:58:14.300 throughout the daylight hours, before overnight Russia following up with nearly 50 missiles.

03:58:19.980 Zelensky in a post saying the attack showed the hollowness of Putin's comments last weekend,

03:58:25.120 suggesting the war could be finishing, saying these are definitely not the actions of those

03:58:30.400 who believe the war is coming to an end.

03:58:32.700 Meanwhile, Russia on the back foot on the battlefield,

03:58:35.200 losing tens of thousands of soldiers every month,

03:58:38.240 killed or wounded, and failing to advance.

03:58:42.100 Well, we're just hearing at least 20 people

03:58:44.900 are missing in Kiev under that collapsed building,

03:58:47.320 so we should expect the death toll to rise further.

03:58:49.880 This attack, of course, coming amid signs

03:58:51.860 that things are starting to turn against Putin in this war.

03:58:54.520 A string of recent polls showing his approval rating

03:58:57.660 has fallen to its lowest since the invasion.

03:59:00.360 Russia, of course, is losing tens of thousands of men every month,

03:59:03.400 the economy's suffering, and he's making no headway on the battlefield.

03:59:06.520 For now, though, there is no end in sight,

03:59:08.760 but the pressure on Russia appears to be growing.

03:59:11.660 George?

03:59:12.000 It certainly does. Okay, Ian, thanks very much.

03:59:23.280 And then Ukraine retaliated to this chat.

03:59:26.440 has vowed revenge after record deadly blitzes and made warnings that Putin could break

03:59:32.980 one of the last taboos of the war. Because Russia is under pressure in the near and in the deep.

03:59:46.560 My name is Jerome Starkey. I'm the defence editor at The Sun newspaper and this is Frontline,

03:59:54.320 your weekly roundup of the most important news from the war in Ukraine.

03:59:58.060 It has been a week of massive, devastating and deadly attacks on Ukraine.

04:00:04.260 Ukraine has replied, but this has been a week where we've seen

04:00:07.500 2,000 missiles and drones launched at targets across Ukraine.

04:00:12.960 Some 24 people killed in an airstrike on Kyiv, the capital.

04:00:18.360 Dozens more injured in Kyiv, right across the country from the far west

04:00:22.620 to the centre of the country. And that is why President Zelensky has vowed revenge. In his words,

04:00:30.560 asked the armed forces and the intelligence services to put forward possible formats for

04:00:37.000 our response. That is, according to Ukrainian media code for long-range strikes, Ukraine is

04:00:44.320 going to hit back. Devastating pictures and footage of an apartment block, which has effectively

04:00:48.800 collapsed or part of it collapsed under one of those bombardments. During two nights last week,

04:00:55.000 there were consecutive bombardments of more than 700 missiles and drones in each rolling 24-hour

04:01:01.500 period. Zelensky called it non-stop continuous bombardments, a terror attack deliberately

04:01:06.980 designed to overwhelm Ukraine's air defences to have the most damaging and devastating impact

04:01:14.040 on Ukraine. And Russia was able to do that in part because it had been stockpiling its weapons

04:01:20.620 because it had reduced the number of airstrikes in the run up to these massive blitzes. And it

04:01:25.880 had been able to do that in part precisely because Ukraine agreed to a ceasefire at the behest of

04:01:33.420 Presidents Trump and Putin to coincide with Russia's Victory Day Parade. You'll remember that

04:01:39.940 was put forward by the Americans and the Russians. Ukraine had initially countered with another

04:01:44.960 offer. They did agree ultimately in order to secure a prisoner swap of a thousand prisoners

04:01:51.460 and that allowed President Putin's much diminished parade to go forward. But the consequence of that

04:01:57.560 has been that Russia has absolutely ramped up attacks. Ukraine has not stopped its long-range 0.55

04:02:05.380 strikes either, although there was a pause for that ceasefire. In the last 24 hours, we've seen

04:02:10.980 massive explosions at the Ryazan oil refinery. That's some 300 miles inside Russia. Plant and

04:02:17.060 Gazprom gas processing plant in Astrakhan, some 550 miles inside Russia, has also been hit.

04:02:25.260 The Yask airfield, that's about 100 miles from the closest Ukrainian territory, also hit. And the

04:02:32.020 Taman port. These are respectively on the Black Sea and overlooking the Kerch Strait, which links

04:02:39.620 sovereign Russia to occupied Crimea. So Ukraine continuing these strikes, continuing to demonstrate

04:02:45.960 that it can hit Russia in the deep almost at times of its choosing. And it appears to be 0.51

04:02:52.080 negotiating something called an airport ceasefire, an idea that Ukraine might not close Russia's

04:02:59.140 airports. That could be in order to allow Ukraine to open its airspace. But that's unclear where

04:03:04.840 that will go at the moment. Also, I said Russia's under pressure in the deep, but it's also under

04:03:10.260 pressure slightly closer to the front lines. And this is, there's been a lot of talk this week

04:03:16.500 about the land bridge. That's the swathe of territory that links sovereign Russia to the top

04:03:22.620 of Crimea. So effectively, it goes from Mariupol to Burjansk to Militopol, and then to Chonha,

04:03:29.840 which is one of the bridge crossings into the northernmost tip of the Crimean Peninsula. Now,

04:03:37.400 one chat says, kick, please mod Ace Tone 64. Okay, let me just do this stuff now.

04:03:44.780 Fuck. One second, ninjas. All right, so I got that. Camera on the line. Hey, bro, 1.00

04:03:50.800 Thanks for coming, Rush.

04:03:51.340 It's been a minute.

04:03:51.880 I love Russia coverage.

04:03:52.580 No problem. 0.97

04:03:53.300 Decorea, I know this is fucked up, but since I work for Amazon Safety, is it a big thing? 0.99

04:03:57.040 I've been pushing people to wear gloves so they don't get called into questioning for a murder. 0.99

04:04:01.420 Okay, bro.

04:04:02.840 This is a good man.

04:04:04.520 The chatter is that Ukraine has achieved what's called fire control over this land bridge.

04:04:10.140 So I've talked about what the land bridge is.

04:04:12.080 What is fire control?

04:04:13.240 Well, effectively, fire control is a military term for being able to deliver fire to a

04:04:20.660 point at a time of your choosing

04:04:23.260 in sufficient

04:04:24.700 sort of mass and accuracy

04:04:27.100 to have an effect.

04:04:27.980 Yo, one chest, that guy

04:04:30.200 that name

04:04:34.760 Ace2on64 doesn't come up.

04:04:38.980 Yo, we're good?

04:04:40.360 I'm just going to, all right, let me, I'll

04:04:42.400 stream here in a second.

04:04:44.100 Fresh isn't here.

04:04:48.920 Oh, they're here?

04:04:50.660 Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. So I guess we got Rolo Tomasi in the house too. Yo,

04:04:55.360 put that in the chat then. Or sorry, change the title. So you know. All right, we got rolling

04:04:59.440 them in here. Sweet. In simple terms, it means that they can hold the roads at risk. So the

04:05:08.780 roads that Russian forces must use to traverse that land bridge are vulnerable to Ukraine's

04:05:15.740 medium range drones and that makes supplying those troops particularly at the western end

04:05:21.660 of that land bridge and potentially in crimea all right yo our master already has og badge and then

04:05:28.140 uh i'll look at the other guys significantly more vulnerable because as this war has progressed

04:05:35.820 increasingly what we've really seen is it's become a conflict of choking logistics you could argue

04:05:41.500 you that about Ukraine's deep strikes. That's about reducing Russia's resources, but also these

04:05:46.880 medium range strikes. We saw it the way that the Russians forced the Ukrainians back out of Kursk. 0.66

04:05:52.360 They choked the supply lines. We've seen it in the way that the kill zone has expanded

04:05:56.940 from five kilometers, 10 kilometers, now at least 50 kilometers behind the front lines.

04:06:02.520 All right. Ram R-Master 2023, Jay Lopez and Ram 15 all have OSS 300 badges, and then it won't let

04:06:08.780 me um give a stone 64 mod uh one chest so i don't on kick i don't know why maybe his name is spelled

04:06:15.620 wrong or something but yeah it's not letting me do it so that vehicles trying to support troops

04:06:20.480 on the front lines are for those of you that are wondering if you're watching on kick yes you get

04:06:24.400 certain badges so if you get a crown badge that means you're a member of the oss long term uh

04:06:28.480 you've been adding value obviously we know the mad the mod badge and then uh you get also uh og

04:06:33.900 badge if you're og badge that just means you're part of the oss 300 like you guys can see right

04:06:37.160 out with TPC Films. So, um, Ace Tone 84. Okay. Yeah. Um, one just gave me Ace Tone 64. Okay.

04:06:48.760 That explains it then. Okay. Let me do 84 then.

04:07:07.160 all right now he's a mod all right so you got it you got to do something about these 0.87

04:07:15.640 irrational ass kick mods they're out of control yeah guys let's not nuke people and let's not

04:07:20.380 ban people if they're a member of the oss that's why we got to get more guys badges so we know who 0.97

04:07:24.720 they are but yeah if you got a crown it means you're part of the oss um and then if you got

04:07:29.140 an og badge that means you're part of the oss 300 but yeah don't be too crazy on them

04:07:33.300 Tragic Amorice, yes, sir.

04:07:34.980 Appreciate you.

04:07:37.320 All right, guys.

04:07:38.500 I'm going to have to get off stream now.

04:07:41.040 I have to get going.

04:07:42.640 We got after hours. 0.99

04:07:43.500 I got to address this shit like that real quick. 0.99

04:07:46.720 So I will be back. 0.99

04:07:49.580 I might do another stream after.

04:07:51.620 We'll see, depending on how it goes.

04:07:55.100 But I hope you guys enjoyed the stream, bro.

04:07:56.380 This is a very informative one.

04:07:59.140 Ms. Orb, thank you for resubscribing.

04:08:01.900 But, yeah, I might come on later tonight.

04:08:03.260 If I don't come back on tonight,

04:08:04.260 y'all are going to get a super long stream tomorrow,

04:08:05.720 so don't worry.

04:08:07.680 Okay?

04:08:08.240 And OSS, guys, I got something special for you guys, too.

04:08:11.640 Do something for you guys especially.

04:08:13.980 So, but anyway, in the meantime, I'm going to go ahead.

04:08:16.900 We're going to do after hours.

04:08:19.100 We got Rolo and Sartain in the house.

04:08:20.440 So, yeah, man.

04:08:22.480 Love you guys.

04:08:23.720 I catch you guys back here in a little bit,

04:08:25.080 either later tonight or tomorrow, depending on timing.

04:08:27.300 Love you, ninjas.

04:08:28.480 Fresh is not here today, so you guys can cheer.

04:08:30.280 There you go.

04:08:31.080 Wait, no Fresh? Yeah, WStream, faggots. 1.00

04:08:33.720 So we'll, I'll be over there. 1.00

04:08:36.340 I'll see you guys over at Fresh Fit.

04:08:37.380 Let me drop the link for you guys right now, as a matter of fact.

04:08:39.580 Let me drop the link for you guys.

04:08:41.840 If you go on Rumble, we should, I think we're, are we on the front page?

04:08:46.360 Yeah, we are.

04:08:47.800 So here it is. 1.00

04:08:52.320 Here's the link for you, motherfuckers. 0.99

04:08:55.520 Jump on in, come on over. 1.00

04:08:59.780 Okay.

04:09:01.780 There's the link.

04:09:02.900 Catch you guys over there.

04:09:03.960 Love you, ninjas.

04:09:04.460 Peace.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - May 15, 2026

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