The Debrief With MyronGainesX - April 27, 2025


Liberals MELTDOWN On Judge Arrests For Obstructing Feds! (Part1⧸2)


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 51 minutes

Words per Minute

146.05705

Word Count

25,089

Sentence Count

1,595

Misogynist Sentences

42

Hate Speech Sentences

88


Summary

In this episode, I talk about how the Border Patrol apprehended and de-deported El Chapo. This is a story about how a Border Patrol agent in the Tucson sector helped catch and deport a man who tried to enter the United States illegally.


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00:34:12.840 that means is simply this, okay? He tried to come into the United States illegally. He was
00:34:19.380 through Nogales, Arizona, okay? For those that don't know, let's go ahead and go all the way here.
00:34:30.140 Nogales, okay, is a city on the Mexican border. Here it is. A couple of my buddies actually went
00:34:40.420 here as their first duty station. Very busy border office, okay? Actually, fun fact for you guys,
00:34:46.900 Nogales HSI was the ones that first got El Chapo caught. Fun fact. Fun fact, fun fact. HSI Nogales
00:34:54.840 were the first ones to identify where El Chapo was, and they got him arrested because they were
00:35:01.140 listening to a wiretap, actually, of one of his top guys, and the top guy called El Chapo,
00:35:07.600 and they stumbled upon him. Fun fact for you, ninjas. Anyway, I digress. So Nogales, right,
00:35:13.580 is right here on the border, okay? Just to show you guys the grand scheme of things, right? So
00:35:18.700 this guy, Flores Ruiz, tried to come in through here, who was apprehended by Border Patrol,
00:35:26.080 right? In 2013. So when you're apprehended by Border Patrol on the border, a lot of times what
00:35:34.280 ends up happening is they'll give you a expedited removal, aka an ER, all right? If you want more
00:35:41.220 detail on this, I did a whole episode with a Border Patrol agent, which I'll go ahead and,
00:35:47.600 um, it's on Rumble. Right here. This is an episode that we did with Zach Apotheker.
00:36:08.260 Right? This is a great episode. He's there? Literally, Border Patrol agent from up north.
00:36:13.280 Oh yeah, and then you have guys that are retired. And we went over immigration in fucking detail.
00:36:17.920 Guys, this is probably one of the most informative videos you guys will see on the goddamn internet.
00:36:22.880 Okay? He ended up paying the price for this because they're trying to fire him right now.
00:36:26.400 Um, you know, but this is the episode. And we talked about immigration in great detail. Okay?
00:36:33.680 This is before Trump got, um, uh, put in. But I think this is the first time we've ever had a Border
00:36:39.100 Patrol agent do a podcast in full-on fucking uniform, guys. That was crazy that he did that.
00:36:43.680 But hey, he was, he was a whistleblower. Very brave man. Whistleblower. One, he did the right
00:36:49.380 thing. Right? He felt like, um, you know, kids were getting lost and stuff like that. So anyway,
00:36:55.940 the long story short.
00:36:56.620 It didn't start in Tucson sector. There was other sectors that were getting smashed. So we was still
00:37:03.600 turning people back, but other sectors were getting busy, overran, and they were the ones giving out
00:37:09.020 the files to let people in. So you're seeing this at other sectors.
00:37:12.620 And sectors is a Border Patrol field office. So you guys get the idea. But yes, anyway, this guy had an,
00:37:19.780 uh, notice of an order of expedited removal by the United States Border Patrol. So when he came in
00:37:23.980 illegally, they arrested him, they gave him what's called an expedited removal. Okay? And then they
00:37:29.820 removed them from the United States. ER typically take, it means he's got to get deported within two
00:37:33.840 weeks. Okay? It's a very fast way to deport people. Um, the other thing also I want to let you guys know
00:37:41.140 is that when you are arrested by law enforcement for immigration violations, there's multiple ways
00:37:47.200 that they can deport you. Okay? You have an expedited removal, as you guys can see here. There's a
00:37:52.040 voluntary removal where you just leave and self-support yourself. There's, um, notice to
00:37:56.240 appears. Um, and then there's, uh, one other one I can't think of. But basically when Border Patrol
00:38:00.920 encounters you, there's multiple routes they could take to process you to effectuate your removal
00:38:05.860 process. Does that make sense? ER is one of the most common ones because it costs very little for
00:38:09.740 the taxpayer. It's fast. And it gets them out of the country within two weeks. Versus a notice to
00:38:14.360 appear, uh, you got to detain them, keep them in the jail, um, or you give them a notice to appear
00:38:18.780 released on our cognizance. And then they go out into the, into the country, which is a problem.
00:38:23.080 That's what Joe Biden's administration was doing for a very long time. So, uh, the ER is the most
00:38:28.500 efficient way to do it. But when you get an ER chat, you are now banned for life. You are an
00:38:34.180 inadmissible alien. Okay? So when Hassan and these losers say, oh, he needs to have due process, blah,
00:38:40.020 blah, blah. Uh, no such thing, my friend. No such thing. Because he shouldn't have been here in the
00:38:44.420 country in the first fucking place. And here's the criminal complaint to show that. So there's
00:38:50.560 no evidence in the AFL or DHS indices indicating Flores Ruiz sought or obtained permission to return
00:38:54.980 to the United States. So let's say you are removed from the United States. The only way, I'm really
00:39:00.440 getting in weeds right now, but consider this a more educational episode. If you get removed from
00:39:05.560 the United States, right, and you're deported, the only way that you're going to be able to be allowed
00:39:10.640 back in is, you need to get permission from the Secretary of Homeland Security to enter the United
00:39:17.280 States chat. Okay? So basically, Kristi Noem would have to sign a piece of paper saying this nigga
00:39:23.400 Flores Ruiz could come back in the United States. Okay? That's not fucking happening. So they checked
00:39:29.620 their databases. They saw he had been removed. He got an ER. And there was nothing in his A-file that
00:39:34.840 showed that the Secretary of Homeland Security authorized him to come back in the United States. So guess
00:39:39.840 what? He is removable. Shouldn't be here. Okay? Prior to the Department of Homeland Security,
00:39:44.140 he used to be the Attorney General of the United States because INS, Immigration Naturalization
00:39:48.200 Service, used to be under the Department of Justice. So it used to be the AG. But now it's
00:39:53.240 the Secretary of Homeland Security. All right? Give me one such a chat if that makes sense.
00:39:57.060 I know, very informative.
00:40:00.560 But we're doing a crash course on immigration right now because these stupid-ass political
00:40:04.400 commentators don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And it was hilarious because
00:40:08.680 I saw them all melting down about this shit. I'm like, bro, like, what are you guys melting
00:40:13.560 down for? Like, bro shouldn't be here. Give me one of those if that makes sense.
00:40:21.540 What about deporting an illegal person? Way harder to do.
00:40:24.260 They sent out a random haphazard tweet after arresting a judge. Like, just to take a step
00:40:34.020 back one more time, if you're going to do something as important as arresting a judge
00:40:38.260 in Milwaukee, a circuit court judge, you better damn well have the court filings ready. You
00:40:43.080 better damn well have your state. Yeah, yeah, they did, stupid fuck. Here's a criminal complaint
00:40:46.420 right here. They filed a criminal complaint. An FBI agent filed it with a federal judge. A federal
00:40:51.700 judge signed this and AUSA took it. So yeah, trust me, they have their fucking ducks in a row.
00:40:56.360 Okay? You're not going to go ahead and arrest a judge, all right? And have an AUSA, okay? And not
00:41:03.820 even an AUSA. Just so you guys know, right? This actually went all the way up to a United States
00:41:08.620 Attorney, which is a presidentially appointed position. The USA has to sign off on every
00:41:12.780 single, um, arrest that comes through. So, um, so yeah, the USA approved this and a district
00:41:22.180 judge approved, uh, a magistrate judge approved this. So for them to sit there and say, oh,
00:41:26.040 yo, uh, you know, you got to make sure you have your T's crossed and your I's dotted. They
00:41:29.860 absolutely did, my friend.
00:41:32.780 ...ready before. You can't do it in this sloppy message where you send out tweets and then
00:41:37.720 you delete the tweet. That's not how rules...
00:41:39.780 That has nothing to do with what the fuck is going on here. Cash Patel writing a tweet
00:41:44.120 about this has nothing to do with the agents on the ground that are actually effectuating
00:41:49.280 the arrest and the court system and the judicial process going on in Milwaukee on the federal
00:41:53.480 side that's handling this. What people need to understand, right, when it comes to people
00:41:57.720 that are the FBI directors, the attorney generals, all these people, these people are just the
00:42:01.600 face of the agency, okay? They're not there on the ground. They're, they're maybe talking
00:42:05.980 to like four to five levels up above what the fuck is actually going, going on, okay? So
00:42:12.060 I'll give you guys an example. The FBI agent that arrested this judge that's running this case,
00:42:18.080 her name is, uh, Lindsey. Lindsey Schlummer, which, hey, whatever, bro. I'm not even going to
00:42:29.820 change. Okay. Strange last name, but that's fine. I got a weird name too. So, Lindsey Schlummer did
00:42:35.980 this arrest, right? Her supervisor, then her assistant special agent in charge, then her
00:42:40.260 special agent in charge, right? Milwaukee's a big field office. They might have one or two special
00:42:45.300 agents in charge. Cash Patel is going to talk to the special agent in charge and get this
00:42:49.740 information. He ain't going to talk to, or he might not even do it. He might have somebody from his staff
00:42:53.980 call the special agent in charge. Because the problem is that Cash Patel is all the way up here,
00:42:57.980 okay? The agent is all the way down here that did this case. So what's going to happen is there's
00:43:04.600 going to be like stuff not maybe translated all the way through, through the chain of command that
00:43:09.900 goes up. So, uh, for him to sit here and say, oh yeah, well, uh, Cash Patel made this suite and
00:43:15.600 that's a problem. Bro, that, that's irrelevant. That's really irrelevant. Okay. These people on
00:43:21.840 Twitter and shit like that with these like, you know, silver accounts, which means it's a government
00:43:25.340 account. They're literally just the face of the agency. Law works in America. It's kind of just
00:43:30.540 sending the message. If you're a judge and you don't curtail your rulings to fit our presidency,
00:43:35.740 you're sorry, our administration, then you're going to get arrested. Incredible. No, if you're
00:43:39.280 going to be a judge and allow illegal aliens to fucking go out the back through your chambers and
00:43:43.640 compromise the safety of federal agents that are there lawfully to conduct an arrest, you're going
00:43:48.160 to go to jail. Okay. See, see how, see how this, this guy mischaracterizes what the fuck just
00:43:53.340 happened. That'll be scary. Let's break down this Cash Patel tweet in just one second, but let's lay
00:43:58.720 the groundwork. By the way, make sure you drop a like and subscribe to help boost this insane story.
00:44:03.300 So federal judges arrested Milwaukee circuit court judge Hannah Dugan on obstruction charges says FBI
00:44:09.080 director Cash Patel. We had to learn it from Cash Patel. Cash Patel made the announcement in an
00:44:14.560 ex post, which was quickly deleted. Dugan is accused of helping. There could have been any,
00:44:20.040 there could have been a multitude of different reasons why he deleted it. Maybe they didn't
00:44:24.840 have her custody yet. Maybe they were still processing or maybe they were still looking for
00:44:28.040 her. Who knows? But that's not really important. Undocumented immigrant evade arrest, according to
00:44:35.080 Patel and Patel only. We don't have any documents. We have no proof. We have no photos of her arrest.
00:44:40.380 All we know is that Cash Patel sent out a post. Then Cash Patel subsequently deleted that post.
00:44:45.240 Is that not kind of scary that you can get arrested? And the only proof of your arrest out
00:44:49.760 there is this bug eye dude who deletes tweets 10 minutes after. But let's continue. This says
00:44:54.100 what? Bro. They could look you up on the BOP. Like there's ways to look up if someone got arrested.
00:45:04.900 Literally, we found the case. We just put her last name in a pacer and we found it.
00:45:07.720 Like what is this guy talking about, bro? Federal agents arrested a Wisconsin judge on Friday after
00:45:13.920 she allegedly helped an undocumented immigrant evade arrest, FBI Director Cash Patel said. Patel
00:45:19.200 announced in an ex post that she had been in charge with obstruction, but that tweet was quickly
00:45:23.740 deleted. The FBI did not immediately respond to requests for comment on why the post was removed.
00:45:28.680 Something about this is very, very sketchy. I mean, yeah, the sketchy part is that a judge got
00:45:32.560 arrested. But the way that FBI Director Cash Patel is dealing with this is very, very sketchy,
00:45:38.480 doubly sketchy. The tweet was quickly deleted. The FBI did not immediately respond for requests for
00:45:43.120 comment. But a senior law enforcement official confirmed to NBC News that Dugan was arrested
00:45:47.780 about 830 a.m. local time in the parking lot of her courthouse for allegedly, allegedly assisting an
00:45:53.760 undocumented immigrant and avoiding arrest after he appeared in her courtroom last week. Dugan is in
00:45:58.380 custody pending her planned presentment later Friday. How absurd must that be to be a judge?
00:46:03.480 You spent the past few decades as a judge. Now you're going to be sitting in the opposite chair
00:46:07.520 across the room. That's just insane. So FBI. Yeah, she broke the law, fat boy. Director Cash Patel's
00:46:13.020 tweet reads. This is the one that he deleted. I had a screenshot of it. It says just now the FBI
00:46:17.720 arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin on charges of obstruction after evidence
00:46:22.880 of Judge Dugan obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week. I'd like to see the evidence.
00:46:27.540 Show it to us. I mean, you should have this evidence prepared. I already showed it to everybody,
00:46:31.300 dumbass. This criminal complaint perfectly outlines everything that happened. I explained it before.
00:46:35.920 Legal alien in a courtroom to face charges for domestic violence case. He was illegally in the
00:46:41.820 United States because he had been ordered removed already, but based on an expedited removal back
00:46:46.000 since 2013. So clearly he was in the United States illegally. Agents found out about this.
00:46:51.840 They found him on a docket. They went there to effectuate the arrest. The judge purposely
00:46:55.180 misdirected them to another judge's chambers, and the guy slipped out the back thanks to the judge
00:47:02.320 allowing him to go through her chambers, and they had to get into a foot chase to find him.
00:47:07.020 Thankfully, the DEA agent that was there to do the arrest was never identified as law enforcement.
00:47:12.060 That's how he was able to keep his eyes on the person. But imagine he had not—they knew he was—imagine
00:47:18.180 they didn't know, or they did know he was a DEA agent. They probably—this guy would have probably
00:47:23.080 slipped through the cracks. So, yes, we have all the facts, my friend, here in this criminal complaint.
00:47:28.220 But again, as usual, liberals don't read. They just get triggered.
00:47:33.320 Eric, when you're doing something as important as arresting a judge, no, you should have everything
00:47:37.520 prepped. Okay, to continue. We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away
00:47:42.580 from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, allowing the subject, an illegal alien, to evade
00:47:48.120 arrest. Thankfully, our agents chased down the perp on foot, and he's been in custody since.
00:47:52.780 But the judge's obstruction created increased danger. Okay, now that I've read that post—and by
00:47:57.820 the way, my hotel room lights just turned off. I have no clue why it got so dark in here. But now that
00:48:01.500 I've read this post, there are a few takeaways that I want to point out. First of all, I already talked
00:48:05.220 about how process is the enemy in Trump's world. He's never had a respect for checks and balances. In fact,
00:48:10.120 he wants to actively erode any check possible, whether it's the media checking him, whether it's
00:48:15.020 courts and judges checking him, whether it's law firms—you guys have heard about the law firm
00:48:19.280 suits lately—whether it's universities or individual students. He does not care about checks and
00:48:24.760 balances. He views legal process not as a safeguard to democracy, but like a bug, like a nuisance that
00:48:29.440 you have to flick off your shoulder or whatever the hell. So first of all— Yeah, see how he's just
00:48:33.420 trying to conflate everything? Like, he's trying to invalidate this arrest off of other stuff he
00:48:38.100 disagrees with. Look, bro, you know, Trump could be right on some things and wrong about others.
00:48:42.420 I've discussed at length the problems with going after college students for free speech. That is
00:48:47.460 fucking lame. I agree. But this immigration arrest and the arrest of this judge for getting in the
00:48:54.840 way is absolutely legit and clean. She's going to get convicted all day. Process is not going to happen
00:49:00.520 here. That's the scary part. But secondly, Kash Patel is not an apolitical FBI director. It's almost
00:49:06.400 funny saying those words out loud. Kash Patel is about as far as possible from apolitical as it
00:49:10.700 gets. And you know what kind of annoys me? Biden tried so damn hard to make his entire administration
00:49:15.900 very moderate—not moderate politically, but moderate in terms of how they wield power. So
00:49:22.140 Merrick Garland was like a moderate dude who decided not to go hard after Trump. And how come—why are the
00:49:28.220 Democrats just so feckless with who they appoint? I'm not saying we should appoint somebody like Kash Patel
00:49:32.320 on our side. But if they're going to be arresting judges with Kash Patel, can we not have at least a
00:49:36.640 little bit of pushback or safeguard or strong voices out there? But the third thing is, this is kind of
00:49:41.920 how institutions collapse across countries. The judicial branch is supposed to be entirely
00:49:46.660 independent. And when the administration, the current presidential administration, is arresting
00:49:51.040 judges to get them to curtail how they rule, how they act, how they speak, how they operate on a daily
00:49:56.100 basis, then that is a slippery, slippery slope. This is exactly how it happens. This is how democratic
00:50:02.580 norms are slowly eroded as judges are arrested and the judicial branch is then forced to bend the knee
00:50:08.820 to the executive branch if they don't want to be arrested. Now, here's the thing. We don't actually
00:50:13.300 know what Judge Dugan did or what evidence there is, and that's the problem. We have no effing clue
00:50:18.660 why this judge was arrested. We only have a now-deleted tweet from FBI Director Kash Patel. Now,
00:50:23.460 if the FBI came out and was like, hey, this judge had a bunch of dead bodies in her basement or
00:50:27.620 whatever, then of course we're going to be like, yeah, she should get due process, but that's
00:50:31.620 terrible. That's not what happened. There was no actual evidence of any wrongdoing. This judge
00:50:36.900 didn't hurt anybody. We don't know what the judge did, and that's scary to me. Yeah, we do know what
00:50:41.460 she did. She clearly impeded the agent's ability to fucking apprehend this person. And, you know,
00:50:47.220 the reason why I kind of wanted to show you guys this stuff is because liberals, right,
00:50:51.220 they're so good at playing this victim mindset. They're so good at painting, you know, their
00:50:58.740 worldview as the proper view, the moral view, the right view. But what they do is they mischaracterize
00:51:05.220 the facts. They mischaracterize the circumstances. They conflate things that don't make any sense
00:51:10.900 or aren't connected. For example, oh, he's stopping college kids from being able to say what they want
00:51:15.300 to say. Okay, that's fine. That's a valid criticism. But that is not the same as them
00:51:20.420 arresting this judge for literally impeding them from trying to arrest an illegal alien,
00:51:24.820 right? But they were hoping that they can, you know, garner some shock value
00:51:30.580 through feelings for you to take their side. That's what liberals do. They appeal to feelings,
00:51:34.820 man. That's what they do, bro.
00:51:36.100 We know what she did. Okay, we know what she did. She deserves to go to jail. All right,
00:51:46.340 let's go see what our dumbass buddy Hassan Piker's got to say about this. I'm gonna speed it up a
00:51:52.340 little bit. He is complaining about due process taking place. If this person is convicted,
00:52:02.580 what is insane about... And then here, you guys can see here this picture. Here's a judge with
00:52:07.540 three FBI agents. This is when she got arrested. The story is that the current attorney general,
00:52:13.860 Pam Bondi, is complaining about due process taking place. If this person is convicted and deportation
00:52:20.580 is seen as a necessity, then that's what's going to happen. But they don't want to wait for the court
00:52:24.580 process to take place. This is... See, and here's the problem, Hassan. They don't have to wait for the
00:52:31.540 court process to take place because he's already been ordered removed. Dumb fuck.
00:52:38.180 And this is what I mean, because see, here's the thing with Hassan, right? He had the nerve to say
00:52:41.380 that I'm like, uh, I'm dumb the other day, which I found actually fucking hilarious because I'm far
00:52:46.660 more intelligent than this guy in almost every regard, more versatile. And on top of that,
00:52:49.860 I went to a better school than him. This guy went to fucking Rutgers, which is for fucking retards,
00:52:54.340 by the way, Rutgers is literally a shitty state school, party school for retards. So
00:53:04.980 that's comical to me that he would even say something so ridiculous while being a Rutgers
00:53:08.580 alumni. But that's a whole other, uh, that's a whole other story.
00:53:14.500 The judicial process that he's talking about where they need to have due process for this guy is
00:53:19.940 null and void because this guy shouldn't have been in the United States regardless. But Hassan doesn't
00:53:26.340 know this because he does such a great job, right, of sounding convincing when he doesn't know what
00:53:32.500 he's talking about. And this is what I'm trying to expose you guys. The reason why I wanted to make
00:53:36.580 sure to cover this with you guys and give you guys three prominent liberal talking heads about this same
00:53:41.860 topic is I want to show you guys how they don't know what the fuck they're talking about a lot of the
00:53:45.540 times. Okay. There's no one on YouTube. Okay. There's no one on the internet that I could think
00:53:52.340 of that understands immigration and the way this shit works better than me. Okay. And can actually
00:53:57.780 explain it to you guys. All right. Because not only can I explain it from an administrative perspective,
00:54:02.900 right? Like what these guys were doing where they're picking this guy up for, um, just being here
00:54:06.500 illegally, but I could also talk about it from the criminal perspective. Okay. So when you got people
00:54:11.780 like Kyle Kalinske, this retard and the other guy, the, uh, soy boy, right, they don't know what
00:54:17.220 they're talking about. They're just so enraged by Trump that they're just gonna, ah, this is
00:54:21.460 fucked up. They arrested a judge. Oh, but they don't realize that that judge really did commit a crime.
00:54:29.540 Okay. But, and this isn't the first time. This is why I watch liberal commentators, by the way,
00:54:35.060 chat. Like, I hope you guys are enjoying this because I might do this more where I just debunk their
00:54:39.220 shit. But this is why I watch liberal commentators. Cause what I realized is a lot of their stuff
00:54:45.620 is outrage when it comes to Trump. It's a lot of outrage and, you know, um, trying to get shock out
00:54:51.220 of their user base or whatever. Cause we all know that liberals get triggered and they get triggered.
00:54:56.180 Um, because they, they look at their position as the moral high ground. Like we're better than you
00:55:00.980 guys because we're nicer. We're more compassionate. We're more inclusive. When in reality, they really
00:55:05.620 aren't. They're far less inclusive, actually. No matter how much they try to hyper focus on the
00:55:13.860 details of this court case, make no mistake. This is not about the depravity of the criminal immigrant.
00:55:18.980 This is about the depravity of the administrative state, the depravity of the attorney general
00:55:22.900 for revoking due process. This is not an argument. So I support a U S citizen too,
00:55:26.660 with no due process about domestic violence and protecting violent abuse. Um, because it was because
00:55:31.540 her mom was illegal, my friend. So they deported the mom and the baby had to go with her.
00:55:36.180 This is an argument about undermining due process. That's why she is currently locked
00:55:40.580 up. It is psychotic. Everything Bondi said is false. The judge never hit.
00:55:43.460 No, she was undermining due process by not allowing the agents to make their arrest.
00:55:50.180 Them seeing claims about the judge hiding the defendant, read the complaint,
00:55:52.180 folks written by the DOJ. By the way, the guy was literally in the public area where agents were,
00:55:54.660 I guess he got an elevator before they could get to him. The complaint says after letting the defendant
00:55:57.460 exit, she came back to the bench after leaving chief judges vestible and returning to the public
00:56:01.380 hallway. DEA agent A reported that Flores Ruiz and his attorney were in the public hallway.
00:56:04.260 DEA agent B also observed Flores Ruiz and his attorney in the hallway near courtroom 615 and
00:56:07.700 noted that Flores Ruiz was looking around the hallway from different vantage points. Both agents
00:56:10.900 observed Flores Ruiz and his counsel walk briskly towards the elevator bank of the south end.
00:56:14.020 Yes, because at that point they knew that federal agents were there. That's why they were looking
00:56:18.020 around. His defense attorney, prior to this happening chat, came out and took pictures of all the
00:56:22.580 agents. Sixth floor. I am familiar with the layout of the sixth floor of the court.
00:56:26.100 They did not know that the DEA guy was an agent. The DEA agent was smart. He kind of sat somewhere
00:56:30.420 else so they never knew who he was. That's how he was able to keep following them through the
00:56:34.420 courthouse.
00:56:35.300 ...and know that the south elevators are not the closest elevators to courtroom 615. Therefore,
00:56:38.260 it appears that Flores Ruiz and his counsel elected not to use the closest elevator bank
00:56:41.780 to courtroom 615. DEA agent A followed Flores Ruiz and his attorney towards the south elevator bank.
00:56:45.700 At approximately 8.50 a.m., DEA agent A alerted other members of the arrest team that DEA agent A
00:56:49.940 was on the elevator with Flores Ruiz. While on the elevator, Flores Ruiz and his attorney spoke to
00:56:52.980 each other in Spanish. Here, Jason Palladino posted the relevant section of the complaint against Judge Dugan,
00:56:56.660 who was alleged to have led a man into a jury exit to briefly avoid arrest by ISDA and FBI agents in
00:57:00.580 the hallway. Judge Dugan learns of ICE's presence and confronts members of the arrest team. Witnesses
00:57:03.700 have described Judge Dugan's response to learning of ICE's presence. For example, a courtroom deputy
00:57:06.980 indicated that when Flores Ruiz arrived, Judge Dugan already was on the bench and conducting
00:57:10.020 proceedings unrelated to Flores Ruiz's matter. The courtroom deputy observed attorney A,
00:57:13.460 the individual who had photographed the agents, enter and approach Judge Dugan.
00:57:15.460 Hey guys, what that basically means is when the judge is there,
00:57:19.460 uh, basically they're going through a whole bunch of different people. They have a docket and all
00:57:24.980 the people that they got to see that morning. So, uh, Ruiz was on the docket, but she had other
00:57:29.380 cases that she had to preside over as well. Dugan's clerk, attorney A stated that there appeared to be
00:57:33.940 ICE agents in the hallway. Attorney A told the clerk where the agents were seated and what they were
00:57:37.300 wearing. The courtroom deputy reported that the clerk then got up and talked with Judge Dugan.
00:57:40.740 Judge Dugan became visibly angry, commented that the situation was absurd, left the bench,
00:57:44.100 and entered chambers. At the time- Okay, it doesn't matter what she thinks. Like, this is,
00:57:48.020 they're there for immigration purposes. That's a federal matter. You're a state judge. Know your
00:57:52.100 role and shut the fuck up, woman. Like, it doesn't matter if you don't like that. Okay?
00:57:57.140 Flores Ruiz, Flores Ruiz was seated in the gallery of the courtroom. Another
00:58:00.980 individual attorney B was working as an assistant district attorney in Judge Dugan's courtroom,
00:58:04.180 April 18th, 2025. According to attorney B, there were approximately eight criminal cases,
00:58:08.340 including Flores Ruiz's case, scheduled for pre-trial hearings that morning. Attorney B was-
00:58:12.100 Which was domestic violence, by the way.
00:58:13.780 Aware that the victims from-
00:58:14.580 So not only is the dude here illegally, but he's also beating people up, allegedly.
00:58:17.860 Flores Ruiz's criminal case were in the court. While attorney B was busy preparing for that
00:58:20.740 morning's docket, attorney B heard someone announce ICE is here. Shortly thereafter,
00:58:24.180 attorney B heard Judge Dugan say that she was going to call the chief judge before leaving the
00:58:27.460 courtroom. Members of the arrest team reported the following events after Judge Dugan learned of
00:58:30.980 their presence and left the bench. And Judge A, who were both wearing judicial robes, approached
00:58:33.860 members of the arrest team in the public hallway. Judge A's courtroom is located adjacent to Judge Dugan's
00:58:36.580 courtroom. Witnesses uniformly reported that Judge Dugan was visibly upset and had a confrontational
00:58:40.340 angry demeanor. Judge Dugan addressed Deportation Officer A and asked if Deportation Officer A was
00:58:43.300 present for a court appearance. When Deportation Officer A responded,
00:58:45.460 no, Judge Dugan stated that Deportation A would need to leave the courthouse.
00:58:48.100 Yeah, see, and this is, these ICE guys fucked up. Like, if a judge told me, like,
00:58:53.300 no, you need to leave the courthouse or whatever, I'd be like, no, I'm, I'm, honestly, I'm giving you
00:58:56.660 a courtesy by even letting you see him. Like, he ain't supposed to be here, okay? He's not supposed
00:59:02.180 to be here. He was ordered removed almost 12 years ago, since 2013, okay? Like, as soon as I see him,
00:59:10.260 I could grab him. But the, the, the, and I, and, you know, just me looking at this with a little bit
00:59:14.500 of a 2020 hindsight, like, the ERO officer fucked up by, like, not standing up to the judge.
00:59:20.580 You know? Obviously, they want to be nice, they want to be professional, so they don't want to
00:59:24.660 create problems, which is why they were playing ball with the judge. But if you wanted to, you
00:59:27.860 gotta be like, no, I'm just gonna take him now. I'll go fuck what you say.
00:59:30.820 Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. He was stupid for saying that. He should have just said, I have
00:59:43.380 an immigration, I have a, I have a, I have an immigration warrant. He has a final order of
00:59:47.620 deportation. A judicial warrant. He then told Judge Dugan that he was in a public space and had a valid
00:59:52.420 immigration warrant. Judge Dugan asked to see the administrative warrant and deportation officer
00:59:55.940 offered to show it to her. Judge Dugan then demanded the deportation officer speak with chief
00:59:59.380 judge. Judge Dugan then had a similar interaction with FBI agent B and CBP officer A. Customs
01:00:05.140 Border Patrol and FBI were there as well. After finding out that they were not present for a
01:00:07.300 court appearance, that they were with ICE, Judge Dugan ordered them to report to the chief judge's
01:00:10.580 office. So, she misdirects them to this other dude's fucking chambers. Judge A then escorted members,
01:00:16.300 I'm assuming chief judge is probably her boss, of the arrest team away from courtroom 615 down the
01:00:21.040 hall through a set of double doors towards the reception area for the chief judge's office. DA agent B,
01:00:24.040 who was not recognized by Judge Dugan and Judge A was being part of the arrest team, remained behind in the
01:00:27.020 courtroom. The courtroom deputy reported observing a portion of the above
01:00:29.260 described events in the hallway. According to the courtroom deputy, shortly after Judge Dugan was
01:00:31.540 advised of ICE's presence, the courtroom deputy left the courtroom to look for an unrelated defendant
01:00:34.520 whom the courtroom deputy was seeking to arrest for an open warrant. The courtroom deputy saw Judge
01:00:37.700 Dugan in her robe in the public hallway telling one of the federal agents that he needed to go
01:00:40.040 talk to chief judge. I need you to understand something. Inside of a courtroom, a judge is the
01:00:42.560 god, okay? Like, a judge is quite literally the judge, jury, and executioner. So, when a judge says,
01:00:47.200 no, you have no authority here, do you have a judicial warrant, okay? And he says, no, I don't have a judicial
01:00:51.300 warrant. And then the judge says, you need to- No, he actually does. He's just a retard and misspoke. He actually does.
01:00:55.180 The f*** out of my courtroom. You need to get the f*** out of that courtroom. That judge- No, he doesn't.
01:00:59.140 He was lawfully there. Court is public, okay? Any member of society can go in there. If he's lawfully
01:01:08.020 there, he has a right to be, he has a right to see, he could do what he needs to do. Like I said
01:01:13.160 before, he could have just taken this f***ing guy and been fine because he's affecting his duties.
01:01:20.120 Ruiz. Like I said before, this guy Ruiz shouldn't even f***ing be here.
01:01:25.660 Could have actually unironically arrested those people that are in that courtroom and held them
01:01:29.740 in contempt of the court for not following a lawful order being made- And then she would be f***ing
01:01:33.920 arrested for obstructing justice and impeding the official duties of a federal agent. Then she
01:01:39.700 would be arrested if she did that stupid s***. Okay? So, actually, I've charged that charge before.
01:01:47.280 Um, I think it's, uh, 111, if I'm not mistaken. Let's see here. Let's see how good my memory is.
01:01:54.520 From a judge- Hold on, chat. 18 U.S.C. 111.
01:02:02.560 Damn, I'm f***ing good! Let's go, baby!
01:02:08.620 Yeah, there we go. Uh, 18 U.S.C. 111. Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees.
01:02:14.800 Yeah, she would- If she had did that s***, she would have got hit with that. I've- I've actually
01:02:18.460 arrested people for this before. In that process, she could have arrested them if she wanted to.
01:02:23.760 This is something that even the Supreme Court is most likely not going to abide by because it
01:02:28.740 destroys any power that the judiciary has. It's over. The judge has no power if a random dickhead
01:02:34.000 can decide to do this. They weren't in the courtroom, they were in the hallway, I think. Regardless,
01:02:37.020 this is an incredibly important part of the separation of power, okay? You cannot have the executive
01:02:41.160 authority undermined the judiciary. It is kind of the whole reason for why the judiciary exists,
01:02:46.120 okay? You are inside of a courthouse especially. You should not be violating the lawful orders or the
01:02:50.820 determinations being made by the judge outside of the courthouse either. Um, he shouldn't be here,
01:02:54.720 Al-San. It's very simple. This due process that you're talking about is afforded to people that are-
01:03:00.560 that are lawfully present here. This guy's a lawfully present here.
01:03:04.400 Technically, okay? Under- God, liberals are such idiots, dude. So fucking dumb. And this guy,
01:03:12.080 bro, you're retarded. What part of he's not even supposed to be here do you not understand?
01:03:19.360 Normal circumstances, when the judge says, hey, we're going to go through due process with this
01:03:22.600 person, you can't just be like, nah, I don't care. Like, there's jurisdiction here. Uh, yeah, you can.
01:03:26.820 You absolutely can. In this situation, you can. He ain't supposed to be here, bro. Very fucking
01:03:30.540 simple. He was ordered removed. And like I explained to you guys before, from a lawful
01:03:34.440 standpoint, the only way he could be allowed to stay in the United States is he needs the
01:03:38.600 Secretary of Homeland Security to basically sign a piece of paper and say that he could come back
01:03:42.120 in. That ain't fucking happening. All right? Cristino may sign no paper for our boy, uh,
01:03:46.140 Flores Ruiz here. So that means, by definition, of him being in that courtroom, he's there illegally.
01:03:51.240 It is in the hands of the judge. Yeah, judiciary is literally there to prevent executive from
01:03:54.420 determining what law is. That's the whole point. And I think a lot of people don't understand
01:03:57.180 what the Constitution is there to do. The Constitution is not there to limit your freedoms,
01:04:00.040 as a regular citizen or non-citizen on U.S. soil. The Constitution is there to regulate and limit
01:04:04.000 the power of the government from doing like this, doing literally like this. That is the
01:04:08.280 entire reason for why this exists. It's crazy. You're wrong on. Yes. For people that are lawfully
01:04:12.260 here, the Constitution is there to protect our rights. But for someone like him who shouldn't
01:04:15.720 even be here. Nope. Many levels, judges can't just walk hallways involving themselves and
01:04:19.040 everything they see. It is her own personal court case. It's literally due process.
01:04:23.080 What do you mean her own personal court case, retard? What are you talking about? Yeah,
01:04:26.700 she's the presiding judge over that case. But that's, that's, that's irrelevant.
01:04:31.660 ...place. You can't just go, nah, sorry. I've decided that there is no due process in the
01:04:35.840 circumstance. He wasn't. It's not even a he, it's a she. In any case. My bad. He was,
01:04:39.300 he was talking about the agent. Brother, I work in a federal courthouse. Judges absolutely have
01:04:41.980 full reign of the place. That chatter is insane. Yeah. By the way, judges don't just have full
01:04:45.000 reign over the courthouse. They have full reign in general. Like, we're not even talking about
01:04:48.400 that. What do you think? They have full reign in their courtroom only.
01:04:51.240 Okay. The judge's purpose is to just sit there and bang a gavel. Like, what are you talking about?
01:04:55.200 I'm just saying like within the halls of a courthouse, within the courthouse, they are the
01:04:58.760 God. Okay. They're functionally the God. They're the judge, the jury, and the executioner in general.
01:05:02.820 Okay. But outside of the courthouse, they have a lot of powers as well. I'm not talking about in
01:05:05.620 their own personal life. I'm talking like when they make a decision that is supposed to limit the
01:05:09.700 enforcement actions by other members of law enforcement. Like for example, I'll give you a great
01:05:13.580 example of this. Court process takes place. There's a court proceeding. There's a criminal trial. Okay.
01:05:16.780 And the judge, the judge adjudicates at the end of the process, uh, he, the person, let's say the
01:05:21.040 defendant is found to be not guilty. You can't just go up to that person. Once he leaves the
01:05:25.240 courthouse and go, I don't care. I still think you're guilty. You're going to jail anyway. Do
01:05:28.640 you understand? This would undermine the entire structure of the judiciary to begin with. Like
01:05:33.000 the judge says, yes, we found you not guilty. Bangs the gavel. You think you're walking out a free
01:05:37.080 man. And then some cop is waiting outside going, no, no, no. Yeah. Well, what he doesn't realize
01:05:41.220 is they're completely different matters. So, um, Ruiz, right, has a state case for, uh, domestic
01:05:50.500 violence. Okay. That is not the same as having, um, immigration problems, uh, with, with his
01:05:58.240 immigration case, two completely different things. Okay. So again, he's trying to conflate the two
01:06:04.800 as if the immigration case is in any way connected to his criminal case, but they're not. And as a
01:06:10.360 matter of fact, one of them kind of renders the other one a moot point. The immigration
01:06:15.160 case renders the criminal case an invalid point because due to the immigration case,
01:06:22.860 he shouldn't even be having the criminal case. Oh, I still think you're illegal. I still think
01:06:28.740 you're a criminal. Boom. Back to prison with you. And here's the other thing too as well
01:06:31.580 that Hassan doesn't realize and liberals don't realize. The immigration system and the criminal
01:06:35.560 justice system are two different systems. Okay. In a criminal system, you get arrested,
01:06:42.360 you're pushed through the criminal funnel, whether it's state or federal. Okay. So look at,
01:06:47.480 think of it as like three different pathways. Okay. So on the criminal side, you have two funnels.
01:06:51.860 Okay. You have a state funnel, then you have a federal funnel. If you commit a crime in the United
01:06:56.020 States, boom, right here where my wrist will join. Okay. You commit a crime in the United States.
01:06:59.800 You have two routes. You can go federal or state. In this case, this guy went state. So he has a
01:07:05.560 state case over here, completely unrelated and unconnected to these two funnels. You have another
01:07:11.120 one, which is an immigration funnel. Okay. And the immigration funnel is over here. This immigration
01:07:17.400 funnel is one fucking straight shot. Okay. And the immigration funnel is a completely different
01:07:23.700 process because it's done by different courts. Okay. So just like in the criminal funnel where you have
01:07:28.520 federal and state, you've got your federal court system and your state court system, the immigration
01:07:32.620 court system is its own thing with a straight line with immigration judges, deportation officers,
01:07:39.140 et cetera. So one does not need to be involved with the other. The two are completely separate
01:07:45.200 from each other. Okay. Pretty much autonomous from each other. So for him to sit there and say,
01:07:50.380 oh, well, you're undermining the judicial process. Oh, no, no, no. The immigration world is not
01:07:56.340 subject to the criminal world's judicial process. Now, does it affect it to a degree? Yes. I'll give
01:08:01.780 you an example. Let's assume that someone is a green card holder. Okay. And they get convicted of
01:08:06.820 a felony. All right. In the criminal course. So let's go ahead and do the funnel again. Funnel here.
01:08:11.760 Bam. Guy gets arrested. Let's say for a federal charge, it's a green card holder. He has a gun when
01:08:15.860 he's not supposed to, right? He goes through the court system, federal, he's convicted and done.
01:08:21.740 Once he's convicted, immigration authorities, if they want, can go ahead, revoke the green card and
01:08:30.200 pick him up, go arrest him. Okay. Because now he's a convicted felon. He loses green card status.
01:08:34.480 Then he gets put through the immigration system. Okay. For deportation. Right. So that's an example
01:08:39.920 of how the criminal world can affect the immigration world. All right. But very rarely does the criminal
01:08:46.840 world stop the immigration world. If anything, the criminal world only enhances the immigration
01:08:52.420 world. Okay. But what Assad is trying to say is that the two kind of have to be working together.
01:08:57.420 That's not how it goes at all. Okay. The immigrant, the, the, if anything, actually, now that I think
01:09:04.080 about it, in 90% of cases, the criminal world is only going to enhance the immigration world.
01:09:10.140 Okay. It's only going to enhance because if you're someone that's here, um, as a foreign national
01:09:16.160 and you commit a crime, all that will do is enhance your ability to be deported by the immigration
01:09:23.180 judges. So what he's trying to say here makes zero sense. Uh, breaking news special agent, Jonathan
01:09:33.260 Pullen provides updates on the multi-agency raid in Colorado Springs. The fuck? I'll take a quick
01:09:38.760 look at this. Guys, give me once in the chat, if that makes sense, the immigration worlds and the
01:09:46.300 criminal world are not, are completely separate. Give me once in the chat, if that makes sense, chat.
01:10:04.540 Oh, wow. They arrested a hundred people in Colorado Springs. It looks like
01:10:07.240 you can't do that. What do you mean? And the only way you could do that is if there is a separate
01:10:17.060 criminal warrant for yourself. Okay. For a totally separate case in this circumstance,
01:10:21.400 him saying he has an administrative warrant is not applicable. There is a actual active court case
01:10:25.540 taking place over whether or not this person is, is responsible for, uh, what he was charged with.
01:10:29.940 And then in the aftermath of that, then you will make a determination for deportation orders.
01:10:33.920 Nope. Nope. And that's where Hassan is wrong. Once again, that's why I wanted to show you guys
01:10:40.300 this, this thing right here. Ever since 2013, he has not had that right, my friend. Okay. He got
01:10:49.080 an expedited removal. When you get a notice in order of expedited removal, you're cooked for life. So no,
01:10:54.960 they do not have to wait for the, um, criminal process to be adjudicated to make their immigration
01:10:59.280 decision. In this case, he doesn't have a right to be here. Now, if you had a green card, Hassan,
01:11:03.800 okay, let's say you had a green card, then you have to wait for him to be convicted. But in this
01:11:07.820 case, nope, doesn't need the, they don't need it. And again, like I said before, these liberals don't
01:11:13.080 know what the fuck they're talking about. They think they do, but they really don't decide not to
01:11:17.760 process. We're just deporting you. Sorry. We're going to deport you expeditiously. Like, this is crazy.
01:11:21.640 Yes, because quite literally, they have to deport him expeditiously because look at this. He has
01:11:26.080 an order of expedited removal. Dumb fuck. So actually, yes, they got to expedite this nigga's
01:11:32.040 removal. Actually. B, who had remained in the hallway and had not been recognized as a member
01:11:37.940 of the arrest team, reported that Judge Dugan walked around the hallway and appeared to be
01:11:39.900 looking for additional agents before she returned to the courtroom. Once inside the office of the
01:11:42.200 chief judge, the deportation officer A showed Judge A his credentials and the administrative warrant.
01:11:45.180 Judge A asked the chief judge's clerk to make a copy of the warrant and asked whether the chief
01:11:47.580 judge was available. The clerk advised that the chief judge was not in the building, but later advised that he was
01:11:50.420 on the phone. At that point, Judge A left and deportation officer A went inside a more private
01:11:53.900 area of the chief judge's office to speak with him on the phone. During that conversation, chief judge
01:11:56.200 stated he was working on a policy which would dictate locations in the courthouse where ICE could
01:12:00.400 safely conduct enforcement operations. The chief judge emphasized that such action should not take
01:12:03.420 place in courtrooms or other private locations within the building. Deportation officer A asked about
01:12:06.180 whether enforcement actions could take place in the hallway. Chief judge indicated that hallways are
01:12:08.660 public areas. When the chief judge expressed interest in talking to ICE ERO management about this
01:12:11.420 policy, deportation officer A provided him with contact information. While deportation officer A was
01:12:14.220 speaking with chief judge DA agent A, CB officer A, and FBI agents A and B waited in the vestibule area outside of the
01:12:18.260 chief judge's office. DA agent A departed that area. After a short while, Judge Dugan's courtroom
01:12:21.860 deputy then approached the remaining arrest team members and stated the courtroom deputy was the
01:12:24.360 one who had notified Judge Dugan about their arrest plans. Courtroom deputy was also made a comment
01:12:27.280 about Judge Dugan pushing Flores Ruiz's cases through, which the arrest team interpreted to mean
01:12:31.120 Judge Dugan was attempting to expedite Flores Ruiz's hearing. Judge Dugan escorts Flores Ruiz
01:12:34.820 through a jury door to avoid his arrest. She wants to-
01:12:37.120 Yep, that's bad. That right there was when she committed the crime, my friend. She literally brought him
01:12:41.560 through her chambers, which by the way, normal people are never allowed in fucking chambers, bro.
01:12:45.640 What the fuck? Law enforcer barely gets in there. She let an illegal alien insert chambers.
01:12:51.040 Conduct the court proceedings on this person. This doesn't mean that she is going to find him
01:12:55.120 not guilty. It just means she recognizes, she recognizes that ICE is waiting to literally grab
01:12:59.820 this dude, kidnap this dude, okay? Without-
01:13:01.920 It's not a kidnap. It's a lawful arrest because he's not supposed to be here.
01:13:04.740 Due process taking place.
01:13:06.040 He does not deserve due process because he's here illegally. Hassan, you fucking retard.
01:13:10.040 So she goes, let's expedite this process. Let's expedite this process so that we can figure out
01:13:14.260 if he is actually- No, she wanted to expedite his ability to escape from the process,
01:13:18.260 aka leave the courtroom and not be apprehended by ICE officers because she did not want him to be
01:13:24.280 arrested. Guilty or not. That is crazy that they arrested her for doing this. For example-
01:13:30.760 Nope, completely lawful. She obstructed a federal investigation.
01:13:34.660 The courtroom deputy recalled that upon the courtroom deputy's return to the courtroom,
01:13:36.480 defense counsel for Flores Ruiz was talking to the clerk and Flores Ruiz was seated in the jury box
01:13:39.160 rather than in the gallery. The courtroom deputy believed that counsel and the clerk were having an
01:13:42.000 off-the-record conversation to pick the next court date. Defense counsel and Flores Ruiz then walked
01:13:44.540 towards each other and toward the public courtroom exit. The courtroom deputy then saw Judge Dugan
01:13:46.900 get up and heard Judge Dugan say something like, wait, come with me. Despite having been advised of
01:13:49.820 the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz, Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz
01:13:52.540 and his counsel out of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to a non-public area of the
01:13:55.620 courthouse. These events were also unusual for two reasons. First, courtroom deputy had previously heard
01:13:59.320 Judge Dugan direct people not to sit in the jury box because it was exclusive for the jury's use.
01:14:01.900 Second, according to the courtroom deputy, only deputies, juries, courts, staff, and in-custody defendants
01:14:04.640 being escorted by deputies used the back jury door. Defense attorneys and defendants
01:14:07.860 who were not in custody never used the jury door. We all know why this took place. This took place
01:14:12.880 so that the judge could actually protect due process on principle. That's it. They are mad.
01:14:20.120 They're mad and they're claiming that this person is a violent criminal and the judge protected this
01:14:23.700 violent criminal. Before the conviction comes through, technically, he is not a violent criminal.
01:14:29.220 He might be. I'm not saying he's not, but it doesn't matter because what this judge is doing in this
01:14:33.300 process is not defending a violent criminal. It's defending due process. It's making sure
01:14:37.660 that the court process goes through. And before people say, what was he accused of? It doesn't
01:14:42.100 matter. It does not matter, especially considering that if he was accused of a heinous crime, for
01:14:47.380 example, and there was enough threat for him to be walking out in public, then the judge would have
01:14:52.320 made a separate determination to hold him instead of allowing him to walk free anyway.
01:14:56.880 Basics of judicial immunity. Absolute immunity when recognized as absolute and means judges are not
01:15:01.200 liable in civil actions for their judicial acts, even when done maliciously and corruptly. The law is
01:15:04.580 clear that in general, no action can be supported against the judge or justice of the peace.
01:15:07.660 Acting judicially and within the sphere of his jurisdiction, however erroneous his decision or
01:15:11.480 malicious the motive imputed to him. For example, it reminds me of that one judge that was sending
01:15:17.160 little children to little children jail because he illegally had set up a pay per child scheme.
01:15:23.540 And ironically enough, Joe Biden actually commuted his sentence on his way out. He pardoned that
01:15:27.780 judge. Okay. Only after the court proceedings are done and a separate investigation is concluded.
01:15:33.040 And then on top of that, this person is found guilty of wrongdoing. Can that person be,
01:15:36.860 you know, sent to prison? You can't in the process decide, you know, that judge,
01:15:41.300 what you're doing is abhorrent, illegal, immoral. I agree. But you can't just in the process go,
01:15:46.040 sorry, what you're doing is abhorrent. You're going to, we're arresting you while you're making
01:15:49.860 this determination to send children to jail for no other reason than the fact that you are getting
01:15:54.280 paid to do so. Judges and judicial officers have always been awarded absolute immunity for their
01:15:58.480 judicial acts. Absolute immunity covers even when conduct, which is corrupt, malicious or intended
01:16:02.060 to do injury. And in this process, what this judge was doing wasn't even corrupt or immoral for the
01:16:06.280 record. Completely corrupt and completely immoral, my friend. She literally stopped them from doing
01:16:10.480 their job. A victim witness specialist employed by the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office
01:16:14.420 was present in courtroom 615. The VWS made contact with the victims in Flores Ruiz's criminal case
01:16:18.460 who were also in court. The VWS was able to identify Flores Ruiz based upon the victim's reactions
01:16:22.440 to the presence in the court. Dugan's gesture towards Flores Ruiz and an unknown Hispanic woman,
01:16:25.760 the VWS stated that she believed the Hispanic woman may have been an interpreter. However,
01:16:29.460 based on the VWS's description of the woman and other witness statements, I believe the Hispanic
01:16:32.160 woman to which the VWS referred to was Flores Ruiz's attorney. The VWS stated that Judge Dugan
01:16:36.540 then exited through the jury door with Flores Ruiz and the Hispanic woman. The VWS was concerned
01:16:40.160 because Flores Ruiz's case had not yet been called and the victims were waiting. Another attorney,
01:16:43.340 attorney C, who was in courtroom 615 on April 18th, 2025, to represent a client, also advised case agents
01:16:47.160 that he observed Judge Dugan forcefully direct two individuals, a man and a woman, to leave through the jury
01:16:50.320 door. Attorney C indicated that this was done with a stern tone. Ruiz makes it out of the courthouse and is
01:16:54.780 arrested after a foot chase. After leaving the chief judge's vestibule and returning to the public
01:16:58.580 hallway, DA agent A reported that Flores Ruiz and his attorney were in the public hallway. You want to know
01:17:01.840 something that's so, like, sad and weird about this process, by the way? Like, technically, if he evaded,
01:17:07.000 if he gave chase and he was able to successfully evade the authorities and then somehow made his way back
01:17:11.700 to the next court date, and if found not guilty, like, he would be able to continue being on U.S. soil,
01:17:18.620 ironically enough. And that's kind of what ICE is trying to stop from happening. They just don't want
01:17:22.680 this to happen. They, like, because what the ICE enforcement in this process is in a legal gray
01:17:27.640 area, the reality of the matter is, if you can successfully stop ICE agents from following on
01:17:33.040 an immigrant enforcement action, that person is still fine to be here. For example...
01:17:37.280 Um, no, bro. And here's the thing, right? And this is exactly the problem that we had with
01:17:42.400 these sanctuary cities. The sanctuary cities had that line of thinking, and that's why people were
01:17:46.280 able to do a lot of the bullshit that they were able to do, where the state was like, you know what,
01:17:49.780 we're just not going to cooperate and, uh, you know, let the chips fall where they may.
01:17:54.280 Um, and that's how we ended up with issues where these illegal aliens that should have got a
01:17:58.460 detainer and put in immigration custody didn't, and then they go out and commit other crimes and
01:18:02.260 kill people, right? We saw, I think it was, uh, Riley, uh, something Riley, she was killed by an
01:18:08.520 alien that wasn't supposed to even be out, that had a detainer on him. I'll give you this example.
01:18:13.920 Someone's not going to give me her name. It was something Riley, but that's what I'm talking about
01:18:17.300 when they don't fucking do what they're supposed to do with these detainers.
01:18:19.920 Okay. Ice could not figure out. There was a Korean...
01:18:22.360 Lakeland Riley or something like that? Um, did Trump sign an exec... Uh, Lakeland Riley. Yep. Yep.
01:18:28.660 There you go. Yeah. Trump signed an executive order for her because, because the person that
01:18:32.700 killed her should have been on a fucking detainer, bro.
01:18:35.360 American legal permanent resident going to Columbia and Ice tried to nab her while they were going after
01:18:41.720 Mahmoud Khalil. They couldn't find her on campus and she was able to make her way to a
01:18:46.920 New York court. And because of that, she is not detained. Mahmoud Khalil, on the other hand,
01:18:51.720 could not evade the ICE agents. And that's the reason why he is currently in a Louisiana detention
01:18:56.520 facility. And considering... Well, he's getting due process. You want to know why? Because he was a
01:19:00.540 green card holder. He's getting this due process that you're bitching about. He actually is. The
01:19:05.020 other guy is now subject to due process because he was given an expedited removal. Hassan. Now, I know
01:19:11.040 that you like to talk out your ass all the time and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
01:19:13.740 half the time. But when it comes to the immigration world, if you get an ER, you're cooked. No due
01:19:17.900 process for you. Okay? Dude came into the United States illegally through Nogales, Arizona. Back in
01:19:23.960 2013, he got an expedited removal by Border Patrol. And ever since then, he cannot come back to the
01:19:28.880 United States unless he has expressed written consent from the Department of Homeland Security's
01:19:33.260 secretary. Okay? Which in this case would be Kristi Noem. He didn't get that, so he shouldn't be here.
01:19:39.500 Cooked. Agency him? Grab him whatever. He is not entitled to due process in the American
01:19:45.540 justice system anymore. That this administration... That simple. And has already gone back on revoking
01:19:52.900 the immigration status of thousands of students because they just had no merit. Like, there's...
01:19:58.060 Okay. I can agree with you on that. That's ridiculous. That, you know, they're wasting time
01:20:04.400 going after students that are legally here for free speech. But what Hassan doesn't understand
01:20:09.640 is that removing people that are illegally here, that are committing crimes, okay, is not
01:20:15.880 the same as revoking student visas of people that have political viewpoints that Israel doesn't
01:20:21.120 like. Okay? This makes sense. I can agree to that. But with the situation of this other
01:20:25.980 guy that literally is here illegally, shouldn't be here, committed a crime while he was here,
01:20:30.520 beat up on his wife or whatever, allegedly, of course. Two completely different stories,
01:20:35.180 dude. Two completely different stories. This deportation is exactly what the base wants.
01:20:40.180 Get rid of these violent criminals that shouldn't be here in the first place. But what Hassan is
01:20:45.020 doing here, as many of the liberals, is they are conflating, okay, the immigration injustices
01:20:50.400 from the freedom of speech slash visa holders, right, and people that are lawfully here, trying
01:20:54.420 to conflate that with the people that are illegally here that are committing crimes. The two
01:20:58.720 are not the same whatsoever, okay? And Democrats and liberals purposely try to bring the two
01:21:04.340 together, right, to create more outrage, not knowing that they're distinctly different on
01:21:11.020 a whole bunch of different situations, okay? You come to the United States legally with a
01:21:16.280 student visa, it's not the same as you paying a human smuggling organization, comes to the
01:21:21.160 United States illegally through a port of entry, or sorry, through a place that isn't a port
01:21:26.420 of entry, and then making your way up all the way to Milwaukee.
01:21:33.040 This is totally meritless revocations. It's literally about abiding your time until, you
01:21:38.340 know, the admin realizes that they can't get away with it. It's really f***ed up. It is
01:21:42.000 no different than, at least at this stage, because we haven't fully gotten to the legalization
01:21:47.600 of these sorts of actions. Like, this is the pre-Nuremberg race laws moment in Weimar,
01:21:52.460 Germany, and not post-Nuremberg race laws moment, where it has become officially illegal to be
01:21:57.560 Jewish, right? In many circumstances, if you can just, like, evade the law, because the law is
01:22:01.460 behaving at this stage still in an illegal manner, you can get away with not being disappeared. It is
01:22:07.740 a very strange time. And it's crazy to think, because, like, one might say, Hassan, you're telling
01:22:12.360 people how to obstruct justice, and you're urging people to evade the law. But the reality of the matter
01:22:17.800 is, in many of these circumstances, they haven't... And that actually is a crime, as well, just so you
01:22:21.940 know, because these liberals are f***ing retards and they don't understand this. 8 U.S.C. 1324,
01:22:27.060 my friend. Okay, bringing or harboring in illegal aliens, right? Like, knowing that a person is an
01:22:33.020 alien brings to or attempts to bring to the United States any manner whatsoever such as the person
01:22:36.440 plays on the designated port of entry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, knowing or reckless disregard of the fact
01:22:43.480 that an alien has come to enter the remains of the United States in violation of law, transports,
01:22:46.180 removes, or attempts to transport or remove such with an alien, blah, blah, blah. Oh, here we go.
01:22:51.460 Okay, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to enter the remains of
01:22:55.460 the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to
01:22:58.720 conceal harbor or shield from detection of such alien in any place, including any building or any means
01:23:02.580 of transportation. So, the judge might actually get hit with this too, chat. They gave her obstruction of
01:23:06.640 justice because that's the easiest one. But when they indict her, they might actually hit her with this,
01:23:09.860 8 U.S.C. 1324. This is a much harder charge. Okay?
01:23:13.480 So, all this, guys, goes under the bringing and harboring certain aliens, the human smuggling
01:23:23.180 statue, 8 U.S. 1324. Done anything wrong. And it's actually, as it stands currently,
01:23:29.260 until they change the rules, until new precedents are set, it is actually the government.
01:23:34.000 Jacob White goes, United States versus Joseph, similar case, you are right. I appreciate that,
01:23:38.300 my friend. Federal agencies that are in violation of the law. It's nutty. The system is so broken.
01:23:45.180 This is the situation. Yeah, that's the judge up on the screen now.
01:23:47.840 Okay, this is the second judge. As you guys know, so we talked about the one with Dugan, right? Now,
01:23:51.860 this is the second judge that out of New Mexico, as you guys know, was harboring Tren de la
01:23:57.540 Aragua's gang member. Got arrested. Yeah. So, FBI did the one out of Milwaukee. HSI did the one out
01:24:03.300 of New Mexico. This is another judge pair that got arrested. His name is Ortega. He was a known,
01:24:08.640 is a known TDA member. Known TDA member. So, he comes through Eagle Pass. Okay, this is the
01:24:13.980 other part of this process. He's like, he's a known TDA member. First and foremost, just like with
01:24:18.120 Israel, when I hear this administration blame someone for being a Tren de Aragua member, okay,
01:24:23.800 I'm going to be a little skeptical about it. I'm sorry. You have lost the power that you should
01:24:28.200 have had as an institution when you shipped off 90% innocent people to CICOT. Okay, if what is
01:24:36.680 happening here in terms of the determination for what constitutes a known Tren de Aragua member
01:24:42.640 is simply someone having a autism awareness tattoo, it's going to be very difficult for
01:24:48.160 me. I'm going to need to see some real evidence. Having said that, the irony here is this determination
01:24:52.200 is not up to the Attorney General, Pam Bondi. This determination needs to happen in a courtroom.
01:24:58.160 That's the whole point. Because when you say- No, it doesn't. You can label someone a gang
01:25:02.100 member. Law enforcement does that. The court doesn't do that. The court, the law enforcement
01:25:07.220 labels them that. And then the court decides if it's, um, if it's valid or not. They'll take it
01:25:14.080 into consideration. Violent gang member, and we've made a determination that this gang is not even a
01:25:17.700 gang, but it's actually a terror cell. We're going to disappear that person. There is no more room for
01:25:21.400 a due process. The entire argument right now is around due process. I'm not saying keep every single
01:25:26.920 person inside of the American borders, inside of the American national boundaries. I'm simply saying
01:25:31.680 that we have to make this determination of courtroom, because if we just destroy due process
01:25:37.240 in its entirety, today it's going to be random brown. Yeah, but not everyone is due for due
01:25:40.980 process, Hassan. And this is where he's fucking up, because he doesn't understand that these people
01:25:44.320 are literally here illegally and have been ordered removed by immigration judges. Okay? So why are we
01:25:51.680 going to waste taxpayer dollars and push someone through a court system when they're going to get
01:25:55.940 deported anyway? Makes zero sense. Gross misuse of taxpayer funds. Brown guy, tomorrow it's going
01:26:02.340 to be another person that is an American citizen. And you can't even make this determination any
01:26:06.720 longer because we've eroded the constitution and there's no more new process. This is very dangerous.
01:26:12.740 She put the lives of our law enforcement officers at risk. She put the lives of citizens at risk,
01:26:17.240 a street chase, which is absurd. And I think that's what ended up getting her arrested was, uh,
01:26:22.620 the fact that the agents had to chase this fucking guy and tackle him down to the ground.
01:26:26.740 Uh, let me read some of these chats, by the way. I know some of them are piling up.
01:26:29.700 Um, we got here.
01:26:34.640 Okay. Um, TPC Film says, it's funny to me how all these libtard podcasts talk about this shit,
01:26:40.520 like they lived it and give you shit about, even though you worked in the feds for 10 years,
01:26:43.680 like what the fuck goes to show their IQ is just like the Trump blue, uh, bullshit. Don't know the
01:26:48.400 whole picture. W libtards, uh, W Mario continue to cook these morons. I appreciate that.
01:26:51.980 OSS army, you know it, man. Oh slash, uh, my bad L libtards. Yep. No worries. We got you.
01:26:56.460 So was Hitler so bad? Don't know. They never met the guy. Okay. Uh, is world peace feasible?
01:27:02.740 Hmm. As long as Israel keeps doing their bullshit, probably not. Uh, a sign, in my opinion,
01:27:08.180 clearly shows signs of sociopathic behavior. He just gaslights himself and fully believes he's
01:27:11.840 right. Just because he sounds right. Idiots, uh, and himself, he's makes Stalin proud, useful idiot.
01:27:17.400 Yeah. The thing with Hassan, right. Is that like one thing I will give him credit for the dude
01:27:22.200 streams every day for like eight hours a day, right? Um, so when you're sitting there and you're
01:27:28.220 streaming eight hours a day, every day, listening to yourself speak, you start to become a bit
01:27:32.340 delusional. Okay. Uh, that there's just no other way I can put it. Um, that's from zap talisman says,
01:27:42.000 uh, perhaps you're consistently running the show, Myron. Did you see the suspect of
01:27:45.020 Kristi Noem's purse being stolen? Uh, has identified as illegal alien? No, but that is
01:27:50.020 fucking crazy. Uh, that is the worst person as illegal alien could have stolen. I'll tell you
01:27:54.460 that. Uh, W show, Myron, I presume it's the case, but do you think these YouTubers comment
01:27:58.440 on such matters with ignorance on the true subject, just with feelings? And if so, why do you
01:28:02.500 think they do? Is it that they lack content or just to entertain their audience? I know you
01:28:06.320 do your best, but, uh, here about how come nobody on other side calls them out on their
01:28:09.740 bullshit. Uh, well, okay. So you, this is a very good question, but it's a multi-pronged
01:28:13.660 question. So let's answer the first one. So the first question is, um, YouTubers comment
01:28:21.120 on such matters of ignorance on the true subject, just with feelings. Yes. A lot of times it
01:28:25.140 is with feelings. A lot of times it is. Um, why do you think they do? Uh, is it that they
01:28:29.720 lack content or just trying to entertain their audience? I think it's both, bro. Uh, number
01:28:32.920 one, it's, it's, uh, you know, if you shock them, right. With, you know, totalitarianism
01:28:39.840 or authoritarianism, um, or anything that comes off as like dictatorship, because remember,
01:28:44.420 that's what the Democrats were running on saying that Trump was going to be a dictator
01:28:47.280 on day one. Uh, that's going to be very, um, exciting for your base. Uh, the functional
01:28:51.720 equivalent for this on the, on the right is, um, whenever drag queens read to kids that
01:28:56.260 like enrages Republicans and right-wingers, um, on the left, anything that, uh, shows
01:29:01.260 that Trump is a dictator or an authoritarianism or totalitarianism, um, that enrages them.
01:29:08.900 So there's certain things that trigger certain, um, um, people of different or different political
01:29:16.400 worldviews. So yes, it's entertained shock and a lot. It could be because they lack as
01:29:21.320 well. Um, and then, uh, I know you're trying your best, but how come nobody on the other
01:29:25.460 side calls them out on their bullshit? Now, the reason why a lot of people don't call
01:29:28.080 them out on their bullshit is because they're, they're not equipped to do so, right? So like
01:29:31.280 me in this case, when it comes to this immigration problem, um, I'm equipped to absolutely dismantle
01:29:36.440 and destroy any of these liberals on this topic. Like I can literally step in with anybody and
01:29:41.700 cook them on this topic when it comes to this case in particular, that the agents were in
01:29:45.640 the right 1,000% and Hassan, Kyle Kalinsky and this other guy are wrong, Machler or whatever.
01:29:50.740 Um, but the problem is that a lot of, um, conservatives, uh, don't have this level of intelligence.
01:29:55.180 And I don't blame them because, uh, you're not going to have, um, this experience, uh,
01:30:00.760 with immigration, uh, to this degree, unless you work in immigration world, the INA, uh,
01:30:04.560 Immigration Nationality Act is extremely, uh, convoluted, cumbersome, and, uh, difficult
01:30:09.720 to understand for the average person. And unless you work in it, you're not going to understand.
01:30:13.920 So immigrate, and this is why it's so confusing to so many people, because unless you're an
01:30:17.940 immigration judge or you work for ICE or you're an immigration attorney, uh, only really
01:30:22.320 these three parties understand how the Immigration Nationality Act works. It's very confusing.
01:30:26.240 And I think that's on purpose to a degree. Um, like the video, y'all. I appreciate that,
01:30:30.520 Mr. Hooligan. BFD says, literally wasting tax dollars prosecuting people that shouldn't
01:30:33.420 be even in the country. Exactly, BFD. Yep. That's the point. Um, let's see here.
01:30:38.420 Jacob White says, uh, United States for Joseph case. You're right. I know. Appreciate that.
01:30:48.480 Um, Deshawn Jackson says, a song got slicker dog than your raggedy ass mutt.
01:30:56.320 All right. Oh, I'm going to, I'm not going to read your dumb ass chat. That's all I hear.
01:31:01.300 A guy named Patel should not be the director of the FBI. Okay. Amon says, I'm proud to be your
01:31:05.440 follow. I always credit you for making me a cable man. You are truly an intellectual and always
01:31:09.100 remember your wisdom have helped thousands like me. I wish you the best regards. I appreciate
01:31:12.820 that. Amon again says, hi, man. I found you through, uh, H3 pod when you guys were feeding on
01:31:17.520 Pokemon and watching it since then. Damn. OG support. Appreciate that.
01:31:23.740 That had to happen. But yes, she put a lot of people at danger in danger that judge did it. So
01:31:28.660 did the other judge. Judge Kano is charged with, they were allegedly giving him assault rifles,
01:31:34.000 AK-47s, AR-15s with a suppressor, a known TDA member, letting him go to a shooting range to refine
01:31:40.840 and perfect his shooting skills. Yeah. Now that is an illegal alien with a gun that's cooked. That's
01:31:45.900 why the HSI want to go after him. Like at that point, it's a wrap. What's happened to our judiciary
01:31:51.400 is beyond me. Yeah. So when, when the American public hears this and they think these were once
01:31:55.640 upstanding people in their communities and, and, and their professions and they put it all on the
01:32:00.340 line for this, I mean, have you dug into their motive? Like what inspired them to, to carry out
01:32:06.140 these acts and harbor criminals? They're deranged is all I can think of. I cannot believe, I think
01:32:11.140 some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law and they are not. And we're sending a,
01:32:15.500 yeah, they're wokeies and they want to, you know, virtue signal and shit like that. Of course.
01:32:19.940 Very strong message today. If you are harboring a fugitive, we don't care who you are.
01:32:23.900 If you are helping hide one, if you are giving a TDA member guns, anyone who is illegally in this
01:32:28.940 country, we will come after you. This is literally, I can smell that you are harboring Jews in the
01:32:34.080 floorboards type. Okay. This is straight up inglorious bastards. Oh my God, dude. If you can't
01:32:41.140 recognize the, the Holocaust adjacency of what the attorney general is stating here, I don't know what
01:32:47.700 to tell you. You are so lost in the sauce. You are the average German citizen at this point that
01:32:52.660 goes, yeah, well maybe people shouldn't hide Jews in the floorboards because they are all dangerous
01:32:56.560 criminals. Like that's what we're doing. And I know when I make this comparison, a lot of
01:33:00.080 rabid right-wingers are going to turn around and say, Oh dude. Yeah. Making an Anne Frank comparison
01:33:05.080 again with a vibe. All right. So, so I know you guys probably might be wondering, this is what I'm,
01:33:09.780 uh, you got your quest chips, right? And then I got some blueberries. So I stay lean year round chat,
01:33:17.900 never get fat, never get fat. Always lean, baby.
01:33:23.480 Violent criminal. It's like, dude, until there is due process, you can't make this assertion.
01:33:28.840 And this entire conversation is happening because they don't want to have due process.
01:33:32.020 If I can just finish off with this, with this idea, very significant development that you're
01:33:35.700 arresting judges now. Now it could be that the judges have engaged in terribly bad behavior and
01:33:39.120 deserve to be arrested. But you know what critics will say? They'll say, Oh, this is, this is a
01:33:42.420 government that is expanding, uh, the powers of the, um, article one of the constitution. Now
01:33:47.960 they're arresting judges. How do you respond to that? No one is above the law, John. No one is
01:33:52.160 above the law in this country. And if you are destroying evidence, if you are obstructing
01:33:57.720 justice, when you have victims sitting in a courtroom of domestic violence and you're escorting a
01:34:02.560 criminal defendant out a back door, it will not be tolerated. And it is a crime in the United States
01:34:07.620 of America. Doesn't matter who you are, you're going to be prosecuted. Madam Attorney General,
01:34:10.640 great to see you in the studio. Great to see you. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate that.
01:34:14.260 We are in the dangerous place, dude. We are in a f***ed up. Yeah. He's freaking out because
01:34:18.440 they're enforcing immigration for once. And then Kyle, same thing. I'll play a little bit of this
01:34:22.700 where it's 50 minutes. We're not going to play the whole thing, but I want you guys just looking
01:34:25.740 at the liberal tears is always funny to me. An immigration judge in Wisconsin. And, and what had
01:34:33.120 happened was ICE was routinely. Now, what I will say is this. I think Kyle is probably the
01:34:40.600 smartest of the liberals. You guys let me know what you guys think. I think he's probably the best
01:34:45.020 commentator. Um, uh, but again, these guys are all f***ing enraged with this whole immigration
01:34:54.100 thing, which is comical to me. Uh, cause Harry Sisson and Dean Withers are retards. They're too
01:34:58.480 young to know anything. Um, Hassan is a bit, um, he's delusional. I would say Kyle, uh, is probably
01:35:09.300 the most grounded of them. Uh, but he's also, uh, a libtard as well to some degree, but I would say
01:35:15.160 he was the smartest of these three. Waiting outside of her courtroom so that when it's time for an
01:35:21.880 immigrant to come for their hearing, as soon as they leave the courtroom, they get arrested.
01:35:27.080 No matter what she ruled, no matter what she said, ICE was parking outside of these immigration
01:35:33.540 hearings and just mass arresting the people who come out of the courtroom. And, um, so this judge
01:35:39.880 decided, well, what's happening here is wildly illegal. And so what I'm going to do is tell
01:35:46.520 the immigrants, Hey, when the hearing is done, go out the side door. And so that's what they did.
01:35:54.000 So then number one, it is not wildly illegal. It's a hundred percent legal because they shouldn't
01:36:01.280 be there in the first place and have outstanding orders of deportation. Number two, by giving them,
01:36:05.940 getting them outside the side door. Okay. While knowing that ICE agents are there to effectuate
01:36:11.580 arrest is by definition obstructing, bro. All right. You are wrong on this yet again.
01:36:19.020 And it's amazing how all of them are using the same exact talking point. Guys, these are three huge
01:36:25.100 left-wing creators. All right. Cause this channel has 1.7 million. Hassan got like 1.5. The other guy
01:36:31.580 got like one point something million. These are big left-wing creators and they're all saying the same
01:36:36.740 bullshit that it's illegal for these ICE agents to be there arresting them at the courthouse. No,
01:36:43.160 it's not. I've done it myself. It's 100% illegal. 100% legal. It is a strategy that is utilized to
01:36:50.480 keep everyone safe because when they go in there, they have to get searched. They go through a metal
01:36:55.240 detector. So what ends up happening is when they come out, you quickly arrest them. You know, it's
01:37:00.640 the, the, the car is parked right up front. You try to do it as nonchalantly as possible. That's
01:37:04.880 why you're wearing plain clothes, et cetera. You're not there in fucking raid gear,
01:37:07.220 right? You're there in plain clothes. You just grab them up real quick and take them outside.
01:37:11.420 That's it. But for him to say, oh no, it's illegal. No, it's illegal when the judge obstructs
01:37:16.640 knowing that there's law enforcement there to pick that person up.
01:37:20.760 FBI Director Cash Patel came out and said the following. Just now, the FBI arrested Judge
01:37:26.320 Hannah Duggan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Duggan
01:37:31.760 obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week. We believe Judge Duggan intentionally
01:37:36.660 misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse,
01:37:40.520 Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject, an illegal alien, to evade arrest. Thankfully,
01:37:45.660 our agents chased down the perp on foot and he's been in custody since, but the judge's obstruction
01:37:50.780 created increased danger to the public. We will have more to share soon. Excellent work. Now,
01:37:56.660 the plot thickens a little bit because soon after he tweeted this, of course, all the news agencies
01:38:01.460 started reporting on it and then he deleted it. He deleted that tweet. So,
01:38:06.300 as of the recording of this video now, uh, it was posted, a bunch of news outlets ran with the
01:38:12.960 news that this judge got arrested by the FBI and then FBI Director Cash Patel deleted the tweet.
01:38:19.300 So, we're a little bit in limbo here as to exactly what's going on and what the facts are.
01:38:23.440 Uh, but having said that, look, again, the reason why she did what she did.
01:38:30.100 So, do you guys see a trend here? He's doing exactly what the first guy was. The news breaks out.
01:38:35.940 They don't really look at the facts that much. At least Hassan looked at the criminal complaint,
01:38:38.800 even though he doesn't know how to interpret it because he's a retard and doesn't understand
01:38:41.200 immigration law. So, same exact thing. Oh, Cash Patel deleted his tweet. That must mean they're
01:38:47.460 hiding something. They're literally using Twitter to justify their rage. Let that sink in, guys.
01:38:53.240 Let that sink in. They're using the fact that Cash Patel deleted his tweet to manufacture this
01:38:59.020 fucking outrage. Okay? It could have been any reason why he deleted the tweet. It could be that they
01:39:03.880 didn't have him in custody yet. Maybe he wanted to wait to announce it at a press conference. Maybe
01:39:07.540 he just didn't want to put it out yet. Maybe he had a schedule to be put out, but it got put out
01:39:11.040 early. There's a multitude of different reasons. But the fact that he deleted the tweet does not
01:39:15.160 invalidate the fucking arrest. But these liberals, I don't know if you guys are seeing it, this is
01:39:21.100 two of them now, have been using the fact that he tweeted about it and then took it down as a
01:39:25.300 substantiation as to due process not being followed or them doing something illegal. No, my friend.
01:39:32.880 100% within their right to do what they did. Crazy, dude. Absolutely crazy. And the fact that these
01:39:40.060 guys on the left speak about this in such a matter-of-fact, confident way makes me realize,
01:39:46.500 like, what the fuck is going on here? Because you guys know me. If I don't know something,
01:39:52.060 I'm not going to speak about it as an expert. I'll start up and say, yo, you know what? That's not
01:39:56.420 my expertise. Right? It's not my expertise. But when it comes to immigration or whatever,
01:40:01.940 this is my expertise. And you guys know me. There's only one thing that I'm cocky about,
01:40:06.280 and that is federal law enforcement. Because I know I put my life into this before I did the
01:40:13.380 podcasting stuff. So when these guys come in here and speak so sure of themselves when it comes to
01:40:19.860 this, we got to call them out. Because none of these guys have law enforcement experience. None
01:40:24.300 of these guys understand immigration law. None of these guys understand tactics. None of these guys
01:40:27.440 have put handcuffs on anybody in their fucking life. Hell, I don't think Hassan's ever had a real
01:40:32.740 job. He's a fucking nepotism baby from his uncle. So they're just wrong on this. 100%.
01:40:39.560 And they're using Kash Patel deleting his tweet to fuel their fucking outrage. Because that's what
01:40:46.580 liberals do. It's outrage. It's outrage porn for them. Like I said before, on the Republican side,
01:40:52.280 the right-wing side, when we see kids getting stories read to them by drag queens, or when we
01:40:56.300 see men going into little girls' bathrooms, we get pissed off that enrages us. For the left,
01:41:00.920 anything that shows that Trump is a authoritarian, or a totalitarian, or a dictator,
01:41:09.460 this enrages the left. This is their rage, guys. It's very simple. She was trying to follow the law.
01:41:16.380 So case in point here, ICE arrested a Virginia man in a courthouse raid right after a judge dismissed
01:41:25.520 the case against him. This is why that judge did what she did. She's trying to uphold the law. She's
01:41:32.960 trying to uphold the Constitution. You have these ICE gangster thugs basically disregarding the law,
01:41:39.400 disregarding the Constitution on a whim, doing whatever they want. And so, by the way, I can't
01:41:44.380 play it for you now, but there's video of ICE arresting this Virginia man in a courthouse raid
01:41:50.480 right after the judge dismissed the case against him. The agents had no badges, refused to show a
01:41:55.840 warrant, then put him in an unmarked van. So here's some quotes.
01:42:00.380 Yes, they wear plain clothes. They don't have to show the warrant. It's literally a final order
01:42:10.040 of deportation. It's in their A-file. Carrying an A-file outside is not good practice. So,
01:42:17.040 no, man. Immigration world is different, my friend. That's just how it goes.
01:42:22.060 Quotes from the altercation. Do not touch me or impede me in my lawful duty. The agent in a pink
01:42:28.240 shirt who seems to be in charge can be heard saying, that is a crime for you to do so. Do you
01:42:32.180 I'm going to get the video for you guys. I know what video is talking about. I saw it the other
01:42:34.980 day. Let me find it for y'all. Understand? Quote, it is highly alarming that ICE would show up to court
01:42:41.640 and detain persons whose charges were dismissed without identifying themselves, said his public
01:42:46.440 defender in Charlottesville, Virginia, where the man has now been, where the man has been taken and
01:42:51.680 what charges he faces have still not been disclosed. So, we have never seen anything like this. By the
01:42:59.320 way, guys, there's another reason why you can't do things like this, why ICE is flagrantly in violation
01:43:03.320 of the law. If you have ICE agents waiting at every courthouse where there's an immigration hearing so
01:43:09.560 they can mass arrest the people who show up, what does that incentivize? It incentivizes people to not
01:43:15.720 show up to their immigration court hearing, right? So, in a variety of different ways, they are
01:43:22.340 absolutely destroying the rule of law. And if we're at the point where they are arresting judges, I mean,
01:43:29.440 what do you think comes next? Where does it stop? That's the thing. It doesn't stop. It keeps going
01:43:37.440 and keeps going and keeps going. Okay, let me give you guys some more. So, we just learned this.
01:43:43.940 ICE did not have a warrant when agents arrested Mahmoud Khalil. They did not have a warrant when
01:43:52.800 they did that. So, yet again, another example, the Trump regime in flagrant violation.
01:43:59.840 I found the clip for you guys. Here it is. This is the clip he's referring to.
01:44:13.940 So, the guy in the pink with the ponytails as an ICE ERO officer.
01:44:21.800 That's the dude he's going to pick up.
01:44:25.800 Do not touch me or impede me in my lawful duties, ma'am. Do you understand? There's a crime for
01:44:47.820 you to do so. Why? Do you have a warrant for his arrest? Do you have a warrant for his arrest?
01:44:52.920 Yes. Where? Grab him.
01:44:55.680 Get off me or I am calling the U.S. attorney and prosecuting for assault on a federal officer.
01:45:03.360 And that would be the charge I told you guys about before, 18 U.S.C. 111. So,
01:45:06.620 you got this hippie over here trying to stop him from doing what he's doing. This guy's also a nice
01:45:10.160 guy. And here's a deportation. These guys are probably ICE ERO, deportation officers.
01:45:16.120 Show us a warrant signed by a judge. You don't have a warrant. Show us a warrant for his arrest.
01:45:23.980 We are officers with Homeland Security. You don't have a warrant signed by a judge.
01:45:31.540 All right, Senor Dominguez.
01:45:34.220 And you guys can see, look, they're armed, right? Here's a gun right here. And then you can see
01:45:39.840 his poking out over here. I never carry my gun like that, bro. My shit was always very well
01:45:46.540 concealed, man. These guys are, you can tell they've been on the job too long. Niggas are
01:45:49.480 getting comfortable, bro. The fuck, man?
01:45:59.400 Let's go out, please.
01:46:09.840 So that's what Kyle is referring to, saying that the Dugan did that because they saw this guy get
01:46:26.720 arrested. But it doesn't matter, bro. It's lawful, man.
01:46:28.300 ...isolation of the law. By the way, with a functioning judicial system, any one of these
01:46:33.480 things would lead to a dismissal, and Mahmoud Khalil would be set free. In any competent courtroom,
01:46:39.460 even with right-wing judges, they hear this, that Mahmoud Khalil's rights were insanely violated,
01:46:45.720 and it would be... Once again, he's doing exactly what Hassan Piker did a second ago.
01:46:51.160 The Mahmoud Khalil case is not the same as these illegal aliens that are getting arrested in the
01:46:55.700 courthouse, and I'll tell you why. These guys that are getting arrested in the courthouses typically
01:47:01.180 came into the United States illegally, were apprehended by Border Patrol, given an expedited
01:47:05.740 removal or a final order of removal or whatever it is, and when the ICE agents are there to pick
01:47:10.580 them up, they're inadmissible in the first place, okay? They've already been ordered removed.
01:47:16.820 That is not the same as Mahmoud Khalil, who is a green card holder, was legally here,
01:47:21.700 and is being... Having his immigration status challenged under some bullshit 237 law that
01:47:28.420 Marco Rubio is trying to push where it affects the ability to do foreign policy. Not the same
01:47:34.460 whatsoever, Kyle. Completely different. One person is here legally, and they're trying to revoke his
01:47:41.060 legality being here. The other ones are not here legally and have no fucking right to due process
01:47:47.020 because they should have been here in the first place. Completely different. But again,
01:47:51.500 Kyle Kalinske and Hassan are trying to conflate the issues with the First Amendment and students and
01:47:58.620 green card holders that are legally here in Israel. They're trying to conflate it with these illegal
01:48:02.620 aliens that are here that are committing crimes that have been ordered removed by either an immigration
01:48:08.700 judge or through expedited removals and have no right to be here. Completely different. But they're
01:48:16.540 trying to conflate the two. Because again, their base is too stupid to understand that immigration law
01:48:23.020 is far more nuanced and different than regular criminal cases.
01:48:28.300 Be done here. We'd be done. But since this is now a gangster, authoritarian, fascist regime,
01:48:35.580 they do whatever they want. And then the rest of us are trying to play legal catch up.
01:48:40.460 So more. See, not even five, barely five minutes in and they already use dictator, fascist,
01:48:47.740 authoritarian, you know, immediately.
01:48:50.620 The other week we reported for you a story about a U.S. citizen who was detained for 10 days.
01:48:59.820 Well, it turns out that this person is denying absolutely everything that the Department of Homeland
01:49:05.500 Security is alleging. So Border Patrol said that he said he was an illegal immigrant. He says, I never
01:49:13.100 said that. I told them I was from New Mexico. So they accused him of lying. He's got learning
01:49:19.100 disabilities and can't read. And they made him sign a sworn statement without even reading it to him.
01:49:24.540 So yet again, flagrant, obvious, blatant violations of the law, the Constitution,
01:49:34.300 his civil rights, etc. So we also have this. This was breaking from Reuters.
01:49:40.940 The Trump administration moved a Venezuelan man who had worked in construction in Philadelphia
01:49:45.420 to Texas for possible deportation after a federal judge had issued an order blocking his removal from
01:49:52.520 Pennsylvania or the United States. So yet again, look, I don't want to hear it because I know that
01:49:57.800 this is exactly what MAGA is going to do. MAGA is going to come out and say, oh, this Wisconsin judge
01:50:02.300 who was arrested. She was violating the law. That is utter horseshit. She was upholding the law
01:50:07.600 in the face of grave danger because this fascist regime is going to do retaliation and retribution
01:50:14.740 and revenge because she. Um, look, if he was supposed to be here, then maybe she'd be upholding
01:50:20.560 the law. But these guys are illegally here. Why the fuck are we going to spend tax dollars
01:50:23.780 trying to get due process for people that shouldn't have been here in the first place to get said process?
01:50:28.340 Okay. Um, let's see here. Uh, Lanza says, what's good, Myron? Uh, how are you feeling, my G? I feel
01:50:41.920 okay, man. I'm just tired. Lazen says, I wouldn't call, uh, Tim, Tim pool pro Israel. I'd call him
01:50:47.360 Israel indifferent. Uh, yeah. I mean, look, bro, you're not going to get a meeting with Netanyahu
01:50:53.400 unless you support Israel, bro. Like, Netanyahu's not stupid, bro. They probably watched a bunch
01:50:58.720 of the stuff. You know, I know Tim has defended Israel before. So, uh, Johnny Duck says, uh, here
01:51:04.500 can hearsay on my end, but buddies that live in that town all say that judge were in some way a
01:51:11.360 part of a gang getting paid or have been doing gangs for a while. I don't know. I doubt that, bro.
01:51:16.080 Brooksy, Khalil was passing out death to America pamphlets. That's who you're advocating
01:51:19.380 for after what? Uh, Brooksy, show me proof that he was handing out, uh, death to America
01:51:25.600 pamphlets, bro. That's not true at all, bro. You're over here, um, making fake news, bro.
01:51:31.960 He didn't break any laws. He was basically the conduit between Columbia and, uh, the students,
01:51:37.780 bro. He was the middleman. So, so yeah. And let's assume he was passing out death to America
01:51:45.680 pamphlets. That's protected under the first amendment, retard.
01:51:49.920 So Brooksy, don't be a fucking dumbass dude. Holy shit, man. Do you not forget that we live
01:51:54.240 in the United States? You dumbass nigga. You should be, you're in Castle Club. You should
01:51:57.160 be smarter than that. He's following the law. I mean, this video is what? I've been going for
01:52:02.180 almost seven minutes. I've already given you what? Four or five different examples of the regime
01:52:06.200 flagrantly violating the law. They notice how they love to call the Trump administration the regime
01:52:11.300 are the criminals. They are the thugs. They are the gangsters. They are the fascists. They are the ones
01:52:16.960 who are ripping up rule of law and checks and balances in this country. So here you have yet
01:52:22.180 another case. A judge is crystal clear. You cannot move this person out of this state and
01:52:27.260 you cannot move this person out of the United States. And they try to do both things.
01:52:32.060 I got another one. This was from NBC News. After a month of searching, man learns from NBC News that
01:52:40.760 the Department of Homeland Security sent his brother to El Salvador. So this is what we mean
01:52:46.460 when we say they are kidnapping and human trafficking people. They are disappearing people. They are
01:52:51.780 shoving them into an unmarked van because that's literally exactly what's happening. And this family
01:52:56.120 had no idea for a month where their loved one was. All right. So now, uh, we got to talk about this
01:53:03.120 too. And they think this stuff is like so cutesy and funny and teeheehee. Look at what we're doing.
01:53:08.280 We're triggering the libs. But now we have the Trump regime is selling Trump 2028 hats. That's what
01:53:15.160 they're doing. Now, I'm telling you, man, you want to trigger the left, the lefties, man, just talk
01:53:21.240 about authoritarianism or totalitarianism or, uh, dictatorships or whatever, and they lose their
01:53:27.440 fucking minds. Oh, you know how these things work. It always starts out as ha ha he he. We're just joking
01:53:32.720 around. We're just having fun. Um, Martin, your appearance on, uh, Tim cast on April 30th is, uh, AH is
01:53:43.580 28th. No, his birthday was April 20th, bro. He was not, uh, top H was not, um, born on the 30th. It
01:53:52.060 was on the 20th. We, if we wouldn't do that, then they do it. And then all of MAGA turns around and
01:53:57.420 gaslights you and says like, of course he was going to do it. And he's right to do it. So there's
01:54:01.840 already too much evidence that yes, he is planning on staying in office beyond two terms
01:54:07.060 to defend. That's not going to happen, dude. This is completely and utterly un-American.
01:54:14.440 That's what it is. All right. Um, I got more here. So Trump just signed an executive memorandum
01:54:21.140 aimed at investigating act blue. For those of you who don't know, act blue is the leading
01:54:26.300 democratic fundraising platform. And the memo directs the attorney general to look into alleged
01:54:31.120 foreign contributions made on the, all right, we covered this enough. All right. So we got some
01:54:34.880 breaking news. Uh, suspect of the rest of the Christie Gnome's purse theft. Let's go into
01:54:38.300 this. And then we're also going to cover this DEA, uh, thing that you guys sent me earlier
01:54:43.740 as well. But you guys get the idea. Come back in here to live.
01:54:50.060 Now from Fox, I'm Andy Mack. We're learning more information right now about the theft of a
01:55:06.480 purse and some $3,000 in cash. Yeah. Christie Gnome had 3k in her purse. I don't know who carries
01:55:12.880 that kind of cash around, but I guess she does. From DHS secretary, Christie Gnome on Easter Sunday.
01:55:19.600 I want to put up this, a post from her talking about the individual that was arrested, believed
01:55:24.760 to be an illegal immigrant. And you can see on social media saying thank you to the secret
01:55:28.580 service and ice and our law enforcement partners were finding arresting the criminal who stole
01:55:33.340 my bag on Easter Sunday. As I shared a meal with my family at a Washington DC restaurant. The
01:55:39.380 individual is a career criminal who has been in our country illegally for years.
01:55:44.600 Oh, okay. I see what you mean. Um, so, okay. Yeah. He died. So he was born April 20th and
01:55:51.640 he died, uh, April 30th. Okay. You mean that it's the 80th anniversary of his death. Okay.
01:55:56.280 I see what you mean. Unfortunately, so many families in this country have been made victims
01:56:00.640 by crime. And that's why president Trump is working every single day to make America safe
01:56:05.340 and get these criminal aliens off our street. Of course, it was according to her, a Chilean
01:56:11.040 national was previously busted for a similar scheme in London. Mario Bustamante, a 49 year
01:56:17.820 old was arrested on Saturday after he allegedly made off with that luxury shoulder bag. Also a
01:56:22.660 post from Ed Martin, the U S attorney there in the district of Columbia saying this repeat
01:56:27.900 offender will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Quote unquote, no one is above the law.
01:56:34.860 And the New York post also gathering a mugshot for the individual saying, Oh, that's him.
01:56:40.060 Bruh. Fuck wrong with this guy's neck, man. Oh, lay.
01:56:45.900 Now legal from Chile. Migrant accused of snatching Christy Noem's Gucci bag identified as a serial
01:56:52.840 criminal from Chile. So we're following the very latest here on this on live. And now from Fox's
01:56:58.860 Metropolitan Police and the U S secret service caught the suspect. They are still in search of a second
01:57:04.460 suspect in connection with the incident. The two men are in the U S without authorization and U S
01:57:10.300 immigration and customs enforcement is now involved in the case. The suspect in custody is scheduled to
01:57:20.740 appear in court early next week, according to the New York post. Of course, we're also hearing
01:57:26.000 information from the secret service. And that's been a big component to this ongoing investigation
01:57:31.540 since last Sunday. You can see a spokesperson posting on social media about this, about the
01:57:37.500 arrest and the identity of this individual saying special agents, investigative analysts and technical
01:57:43.200 support. That's crazy. That secret service got involved in this to go after this guy for theft.
01:57:48.880 I guess he stole the worst person he could have stolen, bro. Port personnel from Washington in close
01:57:54.600 coordination with the Metropolitan Police of Washington, D.C. led an intensive investigation that
01:58:00.500 resulted in the arrest of an individual connected to last week's robbery involving Homeland Security
01:58:05.820 Secretary, Kristi Noem. And people forget that, um, secret service is a part of Homeland Security,
01:58:10.740 actually. Defendant was taken into custody without incident in the district of Columbia. Following a
01:58:16.840 comprehensive investigation, the secret service alleges that the defendant is a serial offender.
01:58:22.540 We also have determined that this incident had no protective nexus to Secretary Noem in her role as the
01:58:29.580 Secretary of Homeland Security. Yeah, bro, just literally grabbed the worst purse you could have
01:58:35.800 grabbed. What a dumbass. Investigation revealed alleged criminal activity, including a... Bro, I know,
01:58:41.440 once he saw that purse, and he went through it, and he saw that wallet, and he's like, who it was,
01:58:45.080 he's like, ah, fuck, fuck. Imagine his face, bro. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm about to get a bunch of money. He opens it up,
01:58:55.460 and he's like, $3,000 in there. He's like, yes, let's go. Then he looks at who it belongs, so he's like, oh...
01:58:59.680 Bro, it's our problem. He's saying he was like, fuck, man. They're gonna come after me.
01:59:07.400 A potential divide. And they definitely did. Secret service coming after you for fucking stealing a
01:59:11.780 purse, bro? Nigga.
01:59:13.340 Falcon! PUNCH!
01:59:14.840 It's over.
01:59:15.960 ...and credit card fraud. Given this, the Secret Service will maintain jurisdiction over the case
01:59:21.280 and intends to present its findings in a federal courthouse.
01:59:25.460 They're going in federal for this, bro. Man. Fuck around and find out, I guess.
01:59:30.840 But I'd also like to express my sincere thanks to our partners with the D.C. Metropolitan Police
01:59:35.260 and others there. Their collaboration was instrumental in the swift and successful resolution of this case.
01:59:41.460 The agents and officers involved pursued every lead with precision determination,
01:59:47.000 and that would prove to be a complex multi-jurisdiction investigation.
01:59:51.400 Their efforts exemplify the very best in detective work and interagency cooperation.
01:59:56.780 As this matter is now pending before a federal court, we would prefer...
02:00:00.180 Oh, shit. They actually... Wow. So they are taking it federal. Let's see here.
02:00:05.120 Um...
02:00:06.120 Yeah, it had her driver's license in there.
02:00:24.500 Mario Bustamante? Okay.
02:00:26.440 Okay.
02:00:33.360 Let's look at the case, chat.
02:00:36.120 He got arrested about an hour ago.
02:00:41.280 I wonder where he's getting prosecuted out of.
02:00:43.080 It's got to be...
02:00:44.160 It's probably Washington, D.C.
02:00:46.200 All right. This is what we do, chat.
02:00:47.660 Let's find the case together.
02:00:50.180 All right.
02:00:51.100 Pacer, District of Columbia.
02:00:55.540 Boom.
02:00:56.940 Log in.
02:00:57.680 Log in.
02:00:57.720 All right.
02:01:07.360 So query.
02:01:08.940 All right.
02:01:09.920 Last name.
02:01:19.260 The fuck?
02:01:20.300 It's not here?
02:01:20.940 Well, they just did arrest him.
02:01:23.940 So maybe...
02:01:24.220 No.
02:01:38.900 Yeah.
02:01:39.320 Washington field office.
02:01:40.360 Yeah.
02:01:40.620 So it's got to be D.C.
02:01:41.700 I'm thinking.
02:01:47.560 Let's see here.
02:01:48.300 U.S. Attorney for District of Columbia, Ed Martin.
02:01:50.160 Let me see.
02:01:51.000 News, Livia was in the country legally and believes Livia will not be back on the streets in America.
02:01:54.800 Okay.
02:01:55.100 So, additional U.S. Attorney for District of Columbia, Ed Martin.
02:01:57.620 So, yeah.
02:02:03.080 So it looks like they're going to prosecute him here, but...
02:02:05.620 Okay.
02:02:05.900 Let me try this.
02:02:06.660 Let me just try with the first name.
02:02:10.140 Damn it.
02:02:10.820 Nope.
02:02:16.640 Olivia?
02:02:18.260 Let me try that.
02:02:23.900 Oh, Leiva.
02:02:24.620 Sorry, Chad.
02:02:26.580 I'm playing around with the name here.
02:02:34.900 Hmm.
02:02:37.840 Let me try just Livia.
02:02:45.900 Nope.
02:02:48.180 Nope.
02:02:48.780 Not here.
02:02:51.160 Any further questions?
02:02:52.440 They might have not filed the paperwork yet, Chad.
02:02:55.060 Be directed to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia.
02:02:59.780 So, we're following that very closely here.
02:03:01.960 All right.
02:03:02.320 So, yep.
02:03:03.580 On live now from Fox.
02:03:05.120 There's more information coming down about that theft of...
02:03:08.460 So, they did.
02:03:09.080 So, it is the District of Columbia.
02:03:10.300 They just haven't filed the paperwork yet, Chad.
02:03:13.740 But, yeah.
02:03:17.600 The best interview of the Lynch.
02:03:19.040 Here, let's go to the tweet exactly.
02:03:20.780 Who was it that put this out again?
02:03:23.420 Secret Service box.
02:03:24.660 Okay.
02:03:25.140 Let me try.
02:03:26.240 Let me duplicate this.
02:03:28.200 See if we can get the tweet itself.
02:03:31.600 Secret.
02:03:33.720 Service.
02:03:47.000 So, here's a Secret Service.
02:03:48.280 All right.
02:04:01.340 More information coming down about that theft of a purse and also $3,000 in cash.
02:04:07.720 That's crazy.
02:04:09.000 All right.
02:04:09.420 Let's go now into the next story.
02:04:11.940 DA Special Agent Jonathan Pullen provides updates on multi-agency raid in Colorado Springs.
02:04:15.980 Okay.
02:04:16.420 Let's see what the hell happened here.
02:04:19.700 They're going hard on immigration.
02:04:21.980 Give me one sec, Chad.
02:04:23.120 There.
02:04:23.600 Thank you, Chad.
02:04:23.800 Thank you.
02:04:24.140 Thank you.
02:04:34.000 Thank you.
02:04:43.740 all right so those of you guys that are tuning in do me a favor guys if this is the first time
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02:05:44.420 breaking news more than 100 documented migrants are in custody in colorado springs early this
02:05:49.660 morning the drug enforcement administration and other law enforcement agencies raided what they
02:05:54.800 are calling an underground nightclub on the southeast side of colorado springs this is near
02:05:59.980 south academy boulevard and airport road we are getting an update from the dea let's listen
02:06:05.440 sitting this place for a number of months and what we're seeing in here is prostitution drug
02:06:12.040 trafficking we have some active duty military members who are armed security guards there's
02:06:16.960 been a number of acts of violence at this particular club and we've been looking at this place for a
02:06:23.220 while doing some undercover work doing some surveillance work and we showed up here tonight
02:06:27.560 with uh 300 officers to uh execute some enforcement especially let's talk about the significance of
02:06:33.660 active duty military all right so this guy's a sack of the dea rocky mount uh mountain uh field
02:06:42.080 division so he's a top guy um interestingly enough um dea does not have immigration authority chat
02:06:49.380 but they probably did this in concert with uh with homeland security of course because they
02:06:54.100 don't have to out of late entirely is to be able to enforce immigration chat very working in there
02:06:59.180 as security you've been watching this you said drugs and prostitution do you know if they were aware
02:07:05.720 that it was a location for drugs and prostitution listen i think everybody who goes into a nightclub
02:07:11.880 at three o'clock in the morning knows what they're getting into what's the message you sent because
02:07:17.520 300 law enforcement officers uh we we got here i don't think i've seen anything like that
02:07:23.680 what's the message of the community what's the message to colorado the message is that law
02:07:28.340 enforcement and especially federal law enforcement in this state are unified and we're serious about
02:07:33.160 keeping the residents of color springs and the rest of colorado safe yeah i know we also have our
02:07:37.880 investigative reporter allison zimmerman here from our sister station in the springs allison a big
02:07:42.280 question coming up active duty members here from the military serving as security did you want to
02:07:47.760 follow up right and what happens next walk us through this there's certainly so much going on
02:07:52.500 here between the number of federal law enforcement officers that you mentioned and we know that there
02:07:57.880 are more than 200 people inside that underground nightclub but what comes next you have the undocumented
02:08:03.460 immigrants as well so the undocumented immigrants will be in ice custody and they go through their
02:08:09.140 process the active duty service members who are there um are will be dealt with by army cid they were on
02:08:15.720 scene with us and there are partners in this investigation um and we're still have a couple
02:08:19.600 of other operations around the city that are on army cid guys is army criminal investigation division so
02:08:25.200 when you got uh military members committing crimes uh every branch in the military has their own like
02:08:31.740 special agents so army cid is for army obviously you got ncis naval criminal investigation service for
02:08:37.740 um the marines and the navy you got um osi office of special investigations for the air force um and
02:08:45.720 then you have um united states uh coast guard investigative service which is sieges for coast guard and
02:08:53.740 then yeah so army yeah yep those are the those are the main um law enforcement agencies for the military
02:09:00.840 unfolding as we speak so we may have a few more arrests as the morning goes on
02:09:05.260 and final question on on charges what should people expect from this because you talked when we had a
02:09:11.880 similar situation in adams county the difficulty in getting charges because people dropped drugs
02:09:16.640 what should people expect on criminal charges from this operations well over 100 people are going
02:09:22.100 to face criminal uh immigration charges and we have a number of people who are arrested on
02:09:26.620 outstanding warrants as well uh we likely won't be able to charge anyone with the drugs that were found
02:09:31.020 on the floor special agent appreciate your time and the information thank you so a massive operation
02:09:36.920 started at three this morning but really this is something that trails back weeks and months
02:09:42.060 uh in in preparation a message sent here today that that the dea and other law all right this is some
02:09:50.520 video the dea posted this on x this morning around 5 45 you can see law enforcement breaking a window at a
02:09:58.500 building as oh shit bro that's funny dozens of people begin running out of it they say this is an
02:10:06.560 underground nightclub they say weapons were seized in addition bro they're grabbing everybody
02:10:12.900 yeah hold on let's get this again from the beginning bro holy this is crazy
02:10:20.800 okay another one all right this is oh shit some video the dea posted this on x this morning around
02:10:31.100 5 45 you can see law enforcement breaking a window at a building as dozens of people begin running out of
02:10:38.060 it they say this is an underground nightclub they say weapons were seized in addition more than a hundred
02:10:44.960 people were detained allegations of prostitution they found multiple uh multiple they found
02:10:52.940 multiple drugs inside the facility too our megan cloverty has been bro let me get started run out of
02:10:59.760 there bro oh allison we're coming to allison all right she has been live at the scene since early
02:11:04.100 this morning she's joining us now live allison good morning
02:11:06.800 yeah diana when we arrived around three this morning i mean it was a pretty stunning sight here
02:11:16.080 uh just the number of law enforcement vehicles and as we've been telling you this was an underground
02:11:21.360 nightclub here this is something that federal agencies have been working on for months um they
02:11:26.340 also partnered with some of our local agencies we were seeing el paso county sheriff's deputies here as
02:11:31.160 well as cspd um and we did speak with a woman who was inside of this underground nightclub and she was
02:11:38.040 saying that she heard loud bangs and then she was brought outside she was detained and then she showed
02:11:44.520 her driver's license her identification showing she was a u.s citizen and then she was released
02:11:50.920 now we saw quite a bit of people out here coming out of this club when we arrived on scene early early
02:11:57.720 this morning we do want to show you the video just so you can get an idea of what we were waking up to
02:12:03.480 today just the sheer number of people that were inside of this nightclub again we know that this was a
02:12:09.080 significant drug trafficking operation dea investigators also mentioned prostitution as well but they were
02:12:15.800 saying there's a difficult process here in moving forward with actual charges as when they showed up on
02:12:22.200 scene uh people dropped the drugs and ran away but we do know for now uh 100 people in the country more than 100
02:12:29.880 people in the country illegally uh were detained um and they are now uh in ice custody and so we're
02:12:37.000 continuing to monitor this but the big takeaway here uh probably one of the more shocking facts of the
02:12:41.640 morning is active duty service members were inside of this underground nightclub and now we know that the
02:12:48.200 army criminal investigation division is involved that does not necessarily mean these active duty
02:12:53.400 members were in the army or that they were stationed at fort carson that's information that we're still
02:12:58.200 working to get confirmed um but a big takeaway here very massive law enforcement operation in colorado
02:13:05.160 springs and you just heard from the special agent in charge with the dea we know that there are other
02:13:09.240 areas in the city as well that they are having um operations in uh today this morning but we're going to
02:13:16.280 continue to ask questions uh bringing more information as we get it for now we're in colorado
02:13:20.280 springs allison zimmerman news 5. all right allison thanks so much my colleague megan clority joining me
02:13:25.960 now for more perspective megan as allison just mentioned we are still learning a little bit more about
02:13:31.160 what it means that there were active duty military members inside this underground club and when the raid
02:13:36.280 took place just but beyond them just being there the investigators were saying they were taking part
02:13:41.320 in suspected crimes going on inside again drug trafficking prostitution
02:13:45.240 crimes of violence involving guns remember investigators went undercover inside this
02:13:49.720 underground club they say for months this operation was going on so we don't know when they were
02:13:55.080 observed at the club but they said today they found that these active duty military members were
02:13:58.840 working security for the club and that they were also patrons and you've been looking into what this
02:14:03.720 could mean for someone says hashtag don't deport the latinas start their careers too megan right and as
02:14:09.640 allison just said you know it's now going to the army cid which is the army army criminal investigation
02:14:14.680 division they're taking over when it comes to charges against these military members and the
02:14:19.160 cid is the primary federal law enforcement agency for the u.s army so of course right away we reached
02:14:25.000 out to leadership at fort carson and peterson space force base for more information but we don't
02:14:30.520 know as she just said they could be from across the country i mean it's unlikely just because we have
02:14:35.080 such a huge military community here but there's a lot more that we need to find out before we can run
02:14:39.640 make any you know confirmations for anyone the dea saying today that we're waking up as a safer
02:14:45.720 community because of such a large drug enforcement um investigation that they say i mean for them to
02:14:52.440 arrest that many people is absolutely wild man but hey what can you do right um
02:15:00.200 so uh next story we're going to cover guys is um we're going to see trump talking with your boy uh
02:15:06.280 uh zelensky for those of you that don't know the pope um you know tragically passed away a couple
02:15:11.080 of days ago uh many attended his funeral um and uh donald trump and zelensky were there as well and
02:15:17.960 they had a little bit of a discussion so let's go ahead and go into this the funeral oh began and
02:15:23.160 for those of you that are wondering guys we are going to be doing a debate at 10 p.m between
02:15:29.000 true teller and uh has covering the holdemore uh that's going to be at 10 p.m so uh stay tuned for
02:15:38.040 that also uh i'll cover as many news stories as i can this morning we have some brand new photos from
02:15:48.760 that encounter that are showing them to you on the left hand side of your screen they are really
02:15:53.960 startling images the white house describes the meeting as quote a very productive discussion we
02:15:59.400 don't know many details about actually what the tone and tenor of it was another photo shows trump
02:16:05.080 and zelensky speaking with francis president emmanuel macron as well as the british prime minister
02:16:10.200 kirk starmer zelensky had previously expressed he would be willing to meet with president trump when
02:16:15.080 both leaders would be in italy however president trump would not share with reporters if he planned to
02:16:19.640 do so this morning's meeting is the first time the the two leaders have come face to face since
02:16:25.800 that february and you guys remember they had that argument a couple months back where they were like
02:16:30.200 yelling at each other office meeting where trump berated zelensky for not demonstrating enough
02:16:34.760 gratitude for american support in their ukraine war but clear so i mean these images are extraordinary
02:16:42.200 sitting on these chairs in the basilica and what a what a fitting tribute to the legacy
02:16:48.600 of pope francis who was so passionate about peace about ending conflict uh given the fractious nature
02:16:56.680 of the relationship between president trump and president zelensky over the course of the last few
02:17:02.440 months to see them sitting there together kevin liptak to you we knew that there was this opportunity
02:17:07.640 for conversations on the sidelines between president trump and president zelensky what do we know about this
02:17:13.640 meeting well the white house is calling it very productive it lasted about 15 minutes and it was
02:17:20.680 quite a remarkable scene there you see that and laura loomer actually has been um producing some
02:17:25.880 information on this which i'll pull and sort of perched on their chairs inside saint peter's which i'll
02:17:31.480 pull up for you guys here on the side i'll keep playing this while i do this for you guys the silica
02:17:35.880 appearing quite deep in conversation you know these are two men who have made no secret they're distrust
02:17:42.520 even their dislike of each other you know president trump just said within the past week that he was
02:17:47.480 not a fan his quote of president zelensky and this meeting comes 57 days after that explosive oval
02:17:54.440 office meeting that resulted essentially in trump evicting zelensky and his delegation from the white
02:18:00.600 house this meeting did not appear quite as contentious but it certainly did come at quite a critical
02:18:06.440 moment as president trump grows more and more frustrated that he is unable to bring the
02:18:12.040 conflict between russia and ukraine to an end the united states has proposed a peace plan that would
02:18:17.800 essentially give russia some of the territory that it is gained during this war and also include
02:18:24.120 american recognition of the crimean peninsula which russia illegally annexed in 2014. zelensky has said
02:18:31.080 that that's not something he can sign off on and that is part of what has led to this great amount of
02:18:36.360 contention between the two men and so certainly as they sat there inside st peter's basilica this is
02:18:42.280 something that they will have wanted to discuss now both sides are sort of keeping the precise details
02:18:48.280 of this meeting under wraps but we did hear from zelensky as he was departing listen to how he framed this
02:18:54.600 meeting mr president how did the meeting with trump goals really really man before we show this um so this
02:19:03.720 comes from uh laura loomer's twitter good reporting man spotted in tucson arizona yesterday photos just
02:19:10.040 sent to me by a follower international cargo transporter with ukrainian flags based out of
02:19:13.880 ukraine interesting so this is right after they had their meetings chat right then uh she posts this
02:19:22.840 as well ukraine embassy in dc swarmed by u.s official secret service military after trump meets zelensky
02:19:27.800 uh films u.s officials taking u.s and ukrainian flags into the embassy secret service also say heard
02:19:32.760 saying the military is making the call at 1 30. um so it looks like there's some movement here
02:19:43.080 so what they talked clearly they talked about something diplomatic chat because uh right after
02:19:47.640 the meeting the stuff started getting mobilized
02:19:54.200 shout out to laura loomer for breaking this stuff because we don't really know exactly what they spoke
02:19:58.440 about but clearly it was very uh positive uh for ukraine
02:20:07.160 and if you guys don't follow you should definitely um give laura follower man like i know some y'all
02:20:11.560 don't like her because uh whatever reason you might have look i know she's zionist you know i disagree
02:20:16.360 with her on that but she's a damn good journalist she's broken a lot of really good stories
02:20:20.280 very good journalist
02:20:32.600 so and then here's some more footage motorcade that was escorted by secret service ukrainian embassy in dc
02:20:37.720 with u.s official military generals just left the embassy
02:20:40.360 so something is going on chat we don't know yet but something is definitely going on
02:20:47.240 so and this was hours after they met
02:21:05.640 so
02:21:17.240 and then you got here uh something's definitely happening ukraine and russia today moments after
02:21:30.920 secret service u.s officials escorted military officials and what appeared to be a u.s general
02:21:35.880 uh to an inside ukraine embassy in dc president trump posted a photo of himself on true social
02:21:41.160 as he's en route to the u.s from rome meeting with zelensky at the vatican he posted the photo
02:21:45.240 without comment exactly one hour ago which is shortly after
02:21:53.720 um
02:21:55.640 which is really after u.s secret service motorcade arrived at the ukraine embassy
02:21:58.520 where officials were caught on camera by luma unleash blah blah
02:22:01.800 um tons of u.s secret service u.s park police and dc police are brocking off the entrance and
02:22:07.000 sidewalk to ukraine embassy in dc right now where a motorcade of secret service just escorted u.s
02:22:10.920 officials military generals inside the ukraine embassy so there's a meeting going on of some kind
02:22:15.240 uh clearly um
02:22:24.360 so at the vatican ahead of uh the funeral and after real donald trump made a true social post
02:22:29.800 today about the need to end the rest of ukraine war following his meeting with zelensky
02:22:33.080 so there's definitely some high-level talks going on right now chat and and and this literally
02:22:39.400 happened hours after uh trump spoke with um zelensky so
02:22:49.320 i didn't want to go through a lot of details if it's possible because the questions were sensitive
02:22:56.360 questions uh on of course totally it's about how to bring peace closer and how so look boom he doesn't
02:23:03.560 even want to talk about what they chatted about but clearly moves are happening because uh for them to
02:23:09.000 move that quickly um tells you something was resultative positive paris and london and we want to continue
02:23:20.200 such meetings to bring peace to ukraine
02:23:26.120 now trump is now flying back from rome here to new jersey where i am as he's flying back he did post
02:23:32.120 something very interesting on true social when it comes to the russia conflict he says that there was
02:23:37.240 no reason for putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas cities and towns over the last few
02:23:42.840 days and you'll remember russia bombarded kiev uh just last week its worst attack in nine months
02:23:48.840 trump says it makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war he's just tapping me along
02:23:54.120 and has to be dealt with differently through banking or secondary sanctions so quite a shift in tone from
02:23:59.400 the president there you know i asked him on thursday whether he still believed that putin wanted peace
02:24:04.200 he said that he believed both sides were interested in peace here but now the president after his
02:24:09.320 meeting with selenski taking a somewhat different view victor here starberg who we saw there the prime
02:24:14.200 minister of the uk has long been saying that uh putin has been dragging this out kevin liptak for us
02:24:19.160 there traveling with the president thank you with me now from rome to discuss today's gathering cnn
02:24:24.200 political and national security analyst david sanger also guys let's get the likes
02:24:29.160 up to two thousand likes and i'll make a special announcement for you guys of something that i'm
02:24:32.360 working on right now as we speak which i think you guys will all be excited to hear let's get
02:24:36.440 to two thousand likes and i'll tell you guys uh what i'm working on right now that you guys are
02:24:39.960 going to be super happy to hear david hello to you and i want to start here with this conversation
02:24:45.640 between the two men because of course uh president trump went as one of the the duties of the office
02:24:51.240 of president but the opportunity for progress on uh not just the talks uh with russia and ukraine but also
02:24:58.680 probably tariffs and other leaders as well what do you make of the decision and and this remarkable
02:25:04.760 photo that i'm sure we're going to be looking at for years of the two sitting down in the basilica and
02:25:08.760 taking these few minutes to talk well it was remarkable uh first for the place i mean st st paul's
02:25:15.880 basilica is not usually uh the uh the place for diplomatic negotiations though perhaps this pope given his
02:25:24.920 interest in the ukraine war would have applauded that the second uh thing that was remarkable about
02:25:32.040 it is the intensity of their conversation especially given as you said before victor the what a disaster
02:25:39.160 the last one was which basically ended with mr zelensky being escorted from the white house without
02:25:45.880 the lunch they were going to do without signing the the minerals uh and investment agreement that they
02:25:51.640 were going to sign that day and the relationship since has improved slightly but not much what was
02:25:58.520 at issue here we believe although we haven't gotten many readouts on that the the discussion a little
02:26:04.360 more from mr zelensky than we've gotten from the white house is that there are two competing proposals
02:26:10.200 now about how uh to approach the end of the war one by the united states which was pretty generous to
02:26:18.600 the russians would acknowledge uh the land they've taken and uh so forth and would have the u.s
02:26:25.720 recognizing crimea as part of of ukraine and won by the ukrainian yeah president france macron uh
02:26:32.600 loves zelensky by the way they're like best friends that would be quite different and would include
02:26:38.440 russian reparations to ukraine um i wonder what you make of the applause right uh 1400 likes guys let's
02:26:45.800 get to 2000 inches that we heard there at st peter's square when the crowd assembled saw president
02:26:53.080 zelensky uh there and i was watching that live as it happened we didn't hear the applause for other
02:26:58.360 worldly people were making fun of trump for uh not wearing a black suit like you're supposed to look
02:27:02.680 at all the other world leaders wearing black suits he's the only one with a blue suit bro leaders we
02:27:06.200 didn't hear it for for president trump but of course with you know they are in europe but hearing that
02:27:12.680 applause for zelensky yeah you know it's a reminder that this is the kind of applause zelensky used to
02:27:20.520 get in washington remember when he came for the first time addressed a joint session of congress the
02:27:27.000 republicans and the democrats applauded him and talked about him as sort of a churchill in a t-shirt he
02:27:33.800 still has that image here uh and even though prime minister maloney of italy is uh in agreement on
02:27:41.000 many issues with uh president trump she is a big supporter of ukraine uh and providing continued aid
02:27:49.960 to them uh so it just underscored the difference between the trump administration and the europeans
02:27:58.920 about how to go forward with this with the europeans saying basically russia should not be rewarded for
02:28:05.960 invading another country and president trump approaching it as if it's a a question of real
02:28:11.960 estate division here now uh and in fact not even acknowledging and of course alensky didn't wear a
02:28:17.320 suit either that russia was responsible for uh the invasion itself yeah and his uh patience at least
02:28:25.320 uh seems to be running low um david one more here on the pope himself um you know there are few events
02:28:33.320 like a papal funeral that bring together monarchs and heads of state and um you know the leaders
02:28:39.880 the political leaders that we've seen um he is not just a religious figure but also in many ways
02:28:47.480 a political figure what's the influence of a pope especially this one well popes have always been
02:28:56.120 political figures uh you know back uh many many a century and you know we we forget that but he was
02:29:04.360 not only a unifying one but a pope but had a a deep sense of values about how one treats the poor how
02:29:13.240 one treats the homeless uh you've been having testaments to that and you heard them in the in
02:29:19.720 the uh in the funeral service uh all morning and it's interesting at this particular moment in american
02:29:27.880 history where uh the government seems to have um turned on many of those values not all of them but
02:29:36.120 some of them or said it is not up for the government to be paying for this or solving this problem and uh
02:29:44.040 so it it's really an a moment of contrast uh out there uh and i think one of the one of the other
02:29:52.920 big moments here is that because it has brought so many leaders together there was really an opportunity
02:29:59.000 for president trump to go do some diplomacy on the side once the once the ceremony was over of course
02:30:05.880 as he himself noted it wouldn't be uh it wouldn't be seemly to be doing it during this but um he left
02:30:13.160 right away he just headed right back to his airplane yeah the pope uh spoke often about uh migration uh and
02:30:21.160 that of course during the 2016 campaign was one of the sticking points between uh pope francis and and
02:30:27.320 then candidate trump david sanger the new york times always good to have you thank you all right
02:30:33.400 with me now a friend of pope francis is a philanthropist
02:30:41.400 so let's cover virginia i made a tweet i said epstein didn't kill himself and neither did virginia
02:30:47.880 guffrey i think it's pronounced guffrey as you guys know she's one of the accusers in the epstein case
02:30:54.280 who accused prince andrew of sexual assault has died virginia guffrey who accused prince andrew of
02:31:06.760 sexual assault has died her family say that she took her own life at her home in australia she was 41.
02:31:13.880 last month it was reported she'd been in a serious car crash she claimed disgraced financier jeffrey epstein
02:31:20.280 and his friend gillen maxwell had trafficked her when she was 17. prince andrew denied all the
02:31:26.280 accusations against him but reached an out-of-court settlement with her in 2022. katie watson reports
02:31:35.240 virginia juffrey was one of the most prominent accusers of jeffrey epstein the disgraced u.s
02:31:42.120 financier accused of running a vast sex trafficking network juffrey claimed she was trafficked by him
02:31:48.120 and forced to have sex with the duke of york this photo of them together remember this old ass picture
02:31:53.560 chat now infamous prince andrew though has always denied the accusations he reached an out-of-court
02:32:00.280 settlement with her in 2022 that contained no admission of liability or apology in an interview
02:32:07.160 with panorama in 2019 she stood by the accusations he knows what happened i know what happened and there's
02:32:15.320 only one of us telling the truth in a statement virginia juffrey's family said she was a fierce
02:32:20.760 warrior in the fight against sexual abuse and sex trafficking she was the light that lifted so many
02:32:26.360 survivors in the end the toll of abuse is so heavy that it became unbearable for virginia to handle its
02:32:33.400 weight we know that she is with the angels born in the u.s the 41 year old had recently been living with
02:32:39.480 her children and husband close to perth but recent reports suggest the couple had split after 22 years
02:32:45.560 of marriage early this month she posted on instagram to say that she'd been seriously injured in a car
02:32:51.480 yeah that's talk about coincidence man accident which her family later said she had not intended to make
02:32:59.000 public local police later disputed the severity of the crash western australia police say they are not
02:33:06.280 treating her death as suspicious katie watson bbc news in sydney well i speak to our sydney correspondent
02:33:13.640 phil mercer phil what more have the family said we've had a pretty poignant statement from virginia
02:33:21.080 juffrey's family saying that she was a heroic and courageous campaigner against sexual abuse and
02:33:29.560 that uh the stance that she took was a light that lifted the lives of survivors of abuse around the
02:33:37.960 world so we know that the police and the ambulance authorities in western australia were called to a
02:33:44.280 home in the near gabby area this is to the north of perth the state capital of western australia
02:33:51.960 on friday evening and the authorities say that mr fray was found there unresponsive and that family
02:33:59.320 statement saying that she had died by suicide and that um the weight of the abuse that her family
02:34:06.840 say that she has suffered where it became too heavy and in the end for mr fay become became unbearable
02:34:15.480 but she very much became a figurehead didn't she for other survivors of abuse
02:34:19.960 yes she was a prominent uh not only a prominent uh accuser of jeffrey epstein and his friends the
02:34:27.000 british um socialite gilaine maxwell who's in prison for sex trafficking offenses uh she was also a
02:34:34.360 prominent campaigner for the me too movement she had uh alleged that uh jeffrey epstein and gilaine
02:34:41.080 maxwell had trafficked her to britain's prince andrew when she was 17 years of age uh prince andrew has
02:34:49.080 always strenuously denied these allegations but in 2022 the prince did reach an out-of-court
02:34:55.720 settlement with miss jeffrey uh we don't know the specific um details of that settlement but uh clearly
02:35:02.840 uh virginia jeffrey um suffering under the weight according to her family of the abuse that they
02:35:09.400 say she suffered uh repeatedly in certain periods of her life and tell us more about this car accident
02:35:17.720 she said that she'd been seriously injured this was a post on instagram in the in the last month or so
02:35:26.520 and um these are just suppositions but perhaps when you look into the details of that post online it
02:35:33.240 may give an indication of we know that epstein was killed by the clans more than likely well not 100
02:35:39.480 but you know they would be reasonable people to believe so wouldn't be surprised if uh potentially
02:35:45.880 that was involved with her as well the fragility of her state of mind virginia jeffrey had said that
02:35:52.440 she'd been involved in a very serious car accident to such a degree that she said online that she only
02:35:59.400 had a few days to live so there was uh enormous concern by the people close to her and other people
02:36:06.840 about her physical and mental state and what was interesting that the police in western australia
02:36:12.600 downplayed the severity of that accident but of course her death will be investigated by the
02:36:18.280 authorities in western australia and once again this is only supposition but um having an episode
02:36:25.240 like that so public in the last few weeks ago does perhaps indicate the fragility of her mental state
02:36:32.600 and her family say that she fought this heroic fight against sexual abuse and took her life by suicide
02:36:40.760 and she was 41 years of age phil for the moment thank you very much for mercer in sydney
02:36:49.800 this interview this is we've come to buckingham palace in highly unusual circumstances normally
02:36:56.520 we'd be discussing your work your duty we'll come on to that this is from five years ago today
02:37:03.080 you've chosen to speak out for the first time why have you decided to talk now because there is no good
02:37:13.160 time to talk about mr epstein and all things associated and we've been talking to newsnight for about six
02:37:26.440 months about doing something around the work that i was doing and unfortunately we've just not been
02:37:31.960 able to fit it into either your schedule or my schedule until now and actually it's a very good
02:37:39.160 opportunity and i'm delighted to be able to see you today as you say all of this goes back to your
02:37:45.480 friendship with jeffrey epstein how did you first become friends how did you meet
02:37:50.840 well i met through his girlfriend um back in 1999 who um and i'd known her since uh she was at
02:37:59.160 university in the uk um and it would be to some extent a stretch to say that that um as it were
02:38:07.320 we were close friends i mean we were friends because of other people um and i had a lot of
02:38:13.400 opportunity to um go to the united states i mean bro they got the picture of him there with her
02:38:20.840 um like best thing about this is that the interview doesn't interrupt him too much and
02:38:26.520 just allows him to dig his own grave i'm sorry the bbc didn't disable the comments bless him used uh
02:38:33.880 he was used to living in a world where people listened to him and pretended that he wasn't a moron
02:38:39.480 i flew to his house to tell him we can't be seen together makes perfect sense
02:38:44.200 um but i didn't have much time with him i suppose i saw him once or twice a year perhaps maybe
02:38:50.840 maximum of three times a year and um quite often if i was in the united states and doing things
02:38:57.640 and if he wasn't there he would say well why don't you come and use my
02:39:01.240 houses so i said that's very kind thank you very much indeed um but it would be it would be um
02:39:09.160 a considerable stretch to say that he was a very very close friend but he had the most extraordinary
02:39:13.880 um ability to bring um extraordinary people together translation he would get all the
02:39:21.080 bitches and i've explained to you guys before how this works with jeffrey epstein and his network
02:39:25.320 he would uh obviously get the girls right uh because mr brunel the other guy the jean-logue brunel
02:39:32.360 um was a model recruiter and what brunel would do is he'd bring all these girls that were victoria
02:39:37.400 secret models etc and fc would bring these girls to these parties and a lot of these uh celebrities
02:39:42.920 would be like oh this guy brings all the girls okay let's be cool with him and um that's what
02:39:47.960 jeffrey epstein did was connect them with women uh and that's the bit that i remember because the guy
02:39:53.080 that could bring girls always is is uh you know gonna be a valued commodity member is going to the
02:39:58.600 dinner parties where but what they don't know is that some of them are underage you would meet
02:40:03.400 academics politicians people from the united nations i mean it was a it was a is a cosmopolitan
02:40:08.920 group of what i would describe as as u.s um eminence but was that his appeal then was that what you
02:40:16.680 because you you were perceived by the public as being the party prince was that something you
02:40:22.680 that's um also um a bit of a stretch um
02:40:26.200 um i don't know why i've i've i've um collected that title because i don't i i never have really
02:40:35.000 parted um come on man come on bro stop the cow i was single for quite a long time um so what does
02:40:43.880 that mean stop the cow in the early 80s um uh but then after i got married i was um very happy um and
02:40:53.960 and and and i've never really felt the need to go and party and certainly going to um jeffrey's was
02:41:02.920 not about partying absolutely bro stop the cow this no you said you weren't very good friends but would
02:41:10.520 you describe him as a good friend did you trust him uh yes i think i probably did but again and notice
02:41:19.080 that he did this interview months after jeffrey jeffrey epstein died you guys catch that epstein
02:41:24.520 died in the summer of 2019 he did this interview in the fall slash winter of 2019 um i mean i don't go
02:41:34.840 into um a friendship looking for the wrong thing if you understand what i mean i mean i'm i'm i'm an
02:41:41.960 engaging person i want to be able to engage i want to find out i want to learn um and so uh you have to
02:41:51.480 remember that i was transitioning out of the navy at the time um and in the transition uh i wanted to
02:41:58.920 find out more about what was going on because in the navy um it's a pretty isolated business because
02:42:07.720 you're out at sea the whole time um and i was going to become the special representative for
02:42:12.920 international trade and investment so i wanted to know more about what was going on in the
02:42:17.080 international business world and so that was another reason for going there and the opportunities
02:42:23.160 that i had to go to wall street and other places to learn uh whilst i was there were were absolutely
02:42:32.200 two thousand likes guys we're at 1400 ninjas two thousand i will make an interesting announcement
02:42:37.080 for you guys really vital he was your guest as well in 2000 epstein was a guest at windsor castle
02:42:44.360 and at sandringham he was brought right into the heart of the royal family at your invitation but
02:42:50.520 certainly at my invitation not at the royal family's invitation but remember that it was his girlfriend
02:42:57.880 that was the key element in this he was the as it were plus one to some extent in in that in that
02:43:06.200 aspect am i right in thinking you threw a birthday party um for epstein's girlfriend gillen
02:43:11.160 maxwell at sandringham no it was a shooting weekend a shooting just a straightforward straightforward
02:43:18.520 shooting weekend but during these times that he was a guest at windsor castle at sandringham
02:43:24.440 uh the shooting weekend we now know that he was and had been procuring young girls for sex trafficking
02:43:37.800 we now know that at the time there was no indication to me or anybody else that that was what he was
02:43:47.880 doing and certainly when i saw him either in the united states why no when i saw him in the united
02:43:56.440 states or when i was staying in his houses in the united states there was no indication absolutely no
02:44:02.840 indication and if there was you have to remember that at the time i was patron of the nspcc's full stop
02:44:13.080 campaign so i was close up with what was going on in those um uh time about getting rid of abuse to
02:44:22.680 to children so i knew what was what the what the things were to look for but i never saw them so you
02:44:27.880 would have made that connection because you stayed with him you were a visitor a guest on many occasions
02:44:33.240 at his homes and nothing struck you as suspicious nothing during that whole time nothing just for
02:44:43.080 the record you've been on his private plane yes you've been to stay on his private island yes oh
02:44:54.600 you've stayed why would you go to the island his home in palm beach yes
02:44:59.720 yes you visited galen maxwell's house in belgravia in london yes so in 2006 in may an arrest warrant was
02:45:11.400 issued for epstein for sexual assault of a minor yes in july he was invited to windsor castle to your
02:45:19.720 daughter princess beatrice's 18th birthday why would you do that because i was asking galen
02:45:25.640 but even so at the time i don't think i um certainly i wasn't aware when the invitation was issued what
02:45:36.600 was going on in the united states and i wasn't aware until until the media picked up on it because
02:45:41.480 he never said anything about it he never discussed with you the fact that an arrest warrant had been
02:45:46.520 issued so he came to that party knowing police were investigating him well i'm not quite sure whether
02:45:54.360 was it was it police i don't know you see this is the problem it was the palm beach police at the
02:45:57.880 time but i mean i'm afraid you see this is the problem is that an awful lot of this was going
02:46:01.560 on in the united states and i wasn't a party to it and i knew nothing about it in 2008 he was convicted
02:46:08.200 of soliciting and procuring a minor for prostitution he was jailed this was your friend how did you feel
02:46:15.960 about it well i ceased contact with him after i was aware that he was um under investigation and that
02:46:25.880 was later on in in 2006 and i wasn't in touch with him again until 2010 so um i just uh just it was one
02:46:38.920 of those things that somebody's going through that sort of thing well i'm terribly sorry i can't be
02:46:42.280 um so no contact no contact when when he was serving time there was no call no letter nothing
02:46:48.120 there no he was released in july within months by december of 2010 you went to stay with him
02:46:56.440 at his new york mansion why why were you staying
02:47:02.600 with a convicted sex offender right i have always uh ever since this has happened and since this has
02:47:10.200 become um as it were public knowledge that i was there i've questioned myself as to why did i go
02:47:18.280 what was i doing and was it the right thing to do now i went there with the sole purpose of saying to him
02:47:28.280 that because he had been convicted it was inappropriate for us to be seen together
02:47:34.600 and i had a number of people counsel me in both directions either to go and see him or not to go
02:47:43.480 and see him and i took the judgment call that because this was um serious um and
02:47:53.080 i felt that doing it over the telephone was the chicken's way of doing it i had to go and see him and
02:48:00.520 talk to him um and i went to see him and i was doing a number of other things in new york at the time
02:48:09.000 and we had an opportunity to go for a walk in the park and that was the conversation um coincidentally
02:48:16.760 that was photographed which was when i said to him i said look because of what has happened i don't
02:48:24.120 think it is appropriate that we should remain in contact and by mutual agreement during that walk
02:48:31.640 in the park we decided that we would part company and i left i think it was the next day and to this
02:48:38.600 day i never had any contact with him from that day forward what did he say when you told him that
02:48:44.280 you were breaking the friendship he was what i would describe as understanding um he didn't go into
02:48:54.120 any great depth um in the conversation about what i was doing what he was doing cooked uh kate says
02:49:01.720 that this one we should start yelling anti-semitism is russia compromised by them boys too there is a lot
02:49:06.200 of them um chats real fast um should not die by suicide she even tweeted that she will not commit suicide
02:49:12.520 you uh you see any circumstance them boys got her i know she did say she would never do that to
02:49:17.080 herself i forgot to send you said says send you this decent amount of usa drones being shot down
02:49:21.880 okay uh mine there's an attractive girl in my workplace all men wander and talk to her i'm the
02:49:26.360 only one who is i don't care and i also don't talk to her she wants to get to know me so bad what
02:49:31.080 should i do she only wants to get to know you bro so that you give her attention don't don't give it to
02:49:34.280 her uh the 3k was for the female hooker she was meeting later okay um
02:49:42.520 uh tvc film says that the liberals are being drained by their own bullshit yep facts just google
02:49:49.960 this is 2010 180 owners employers managers and supervisors are criminally charged for harboring
02:49:54.360 or uh illegally migrants uh yep yep i remember that case bfd with ghosts i don't remember these people
02:50:02.840 getting outraged when biden's doj was calling uh was using novel legal theories to turn misdemeanors
02:50:07.720 it's a foundation against the former president i don't really care about the outrage fair enough
02:50:12.840 so guys um what i'm thinking i'm gonna do guys because i really don't feel too well right now
02:50:18.760 um i'm gonna end the stream here soon then i'm gonna come back at 10 o'clock and moderate the debate
02:50:26.040 so i'm not gonna uh just get off even though i feel like shit and stay off i'm gonna get off and i'm
02:50:38.360 going to come back and go live again at 10 okay um and host a debate for you guys um because i just
02:50:49.080 yeah i don't feel good at all so uh i'm gonna take quick rest and i'll be back in about less than
02:50:56.120 in about two hours less than two hours actually and exactly two hours pretty much so um i'll be
02:51:04.120 hosting that debate it's gonna be between uh has and um true teller probably make it cleaner too to be
02:51:12.520 honest with you guys so that will be in two hours be back here at 10 pm est i'm gonna literally make
02:51:18.920 the event right now uh and i'll be back chat all right so love you ninjas i'll see you guys back
02:51:27.240 here in about two hours all right love you guys peace two hours niggas don't forget i'll be back i'm
02:51:36.680 gonna create the event right