Making Hit Songs From Prison...For MURDER?! Vybz Kartel Case Breakdown + Call In Show!
Episode Stats
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2 hours and 16 minutes
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190.66446
Summary
On this episode of FedEx, we discuss the Vibes cartel case. We are joined by a good friend of mine, Dollface, who is a Jamaican-American law enforcement officer. We talk about the case and what it was like being on duty on September 29th, 2014.
Transcript
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And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FedEx. I'm here with a good friend, as you guys remember, doll faces in the house.
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And we're going to be breaking down the Vibes cartel case, man.
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Hope you guys enjoyed this new intro that I got as well.
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Let me know what y'all think between this one and the one that I played last week.
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I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys?
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HSI. The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
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The sheriff is an official in a county or independent city responsible for kidnapping guys, you know, happens in the drug game.
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So on this day, guys, this is September 29th, 2014. I was on duty that day.
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So obviously, you're always on duty when you're a special agent, right? Because, you know, you're plainclothes.
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No one else has these documents, by the way. I've been looking everywhere, and no one has them.
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Ain't nobody going to be able to tell y'all this except over here on FedEx.
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Hey, we are back. What's up, guys? Welcome. Hope you guys enjoyed that one.
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I'm going to be going between that one and another one. Let me know which one you guys like better.
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But anyway, without further ado, guys, we got Vibes cartel today.
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It's going to be a good show. I don't know. I didn't know too much about this case, to be honest with y'all.
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Thank you to Dollface for actually help quite a bit with putting this together.
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As you guys know, she's Jamaican herself. So I'm going to introduce her, man.
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For some of you guys that don't know, newer viewers, can you introduce yourself to the audience?
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And I'm excited because this is actually one of my favorite artists in dancehall.
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Give them an update with you, what's going on with you, where you've been at.
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And then also, how much you hate recruiting girls?
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Working on myself, just trying to, like, figure out where, what direction I want to take myself to.
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What are the top three things that annoy you about it?
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I'd rather the person that be like, all right, I'm not interested.
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And then it's like, when they hear about it from their friend, they be like, oh, I heard about it.
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Like, bitch, you just wasted, like, two weeks of my time.
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Now, imagine trying to get these chicks out for dates, man.
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Anything else new with you before we get into this bad boy?
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Also, I have a YouTube channel that I want to launch.
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So, we'll go ahead and get right into it, guys.
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You guys have been requesting this one quite a bit, which is why we're doing the Vibes Cartel
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So, I'm not too familiar with Jamaican law, but we're going to go through kind of the
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Dolphins will give her predictions and we'll kind of get into it.
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But, you know, just keep in mind that this isn't an American case.
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So, I'm not going to be as like well-versed in it because Jamaican law is obviously very
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I mean, it's closer, I think, to like British law, if I'm not mistaken.
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Because I heard him like in an interview say like, God save the queen because she's
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So, shout out to all you guys here in the chat.
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So, first we're going to go ahead and get into who is Vibes Cartel.
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Because I had to do my research as well with you guys.
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Adijah Azim Palmer, born January 7, 1976, better known as Vibes Cartel, is Jamaican
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Can you break down for people that all face the difference between dancehall and reggae?
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Because I didn't know that there was a difference.
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It talks about how the pussy tights are all these things.
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Like, it's more, you know, it's more suitable for the airs.
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So, the dancehall is, like, we're trying to smash.
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So, he's a recording and dancehall recording artist, composer, record producer, entrepreneur,
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I love how it was all just great and then, bam, convicted murderer.
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Among his various nicknames, he is referred to as world boss.
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At Sunrise by Rolling Stone, he attained folk hero status in Jamaica with provocative lyrics
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and a mischievous public persona, and few have captivated the dancehall audience or offended
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the sensibilities of his detractors as consistently and thoroughly as cartel.
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Cartel singles include Rompings Shop, 2009, Dance Hero, Dancehall Hero, 2010, and Summertime,
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And I'm going to play just literally a few seconds of it, guys, because I don't want
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to get hit with copyright, because y'all know how this goes.
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This is basically, you know, him talking about smashing a chick, which I guess is the difference
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between dancehall versus, like, reggae, as we were discussing before.
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Yeah, somebody said dancehall is a lifestyle of the party scene, and reggae is more cultural.
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He was pretty clean, though, from what I remember.
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Because you could dance, you could dance, like, dancing is included.
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So, oh, you see people on their head top, or you see people jumping off the speakers.
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That shit should be called fucking WrestleMania.
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It's like jumping off the top groups and, like, doing some wild shit.
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Okay, she said, don't damage it, because our pussy tight.
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So, that's, and then this is, like, if I'm not mistaken, the Neo song here that they're using.
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We both remember when Neo was hot back in the day.
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So, this is, like, an example, guys, of, like, what this type of music is here.
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I got to do this for the people so they know what the hell I'm talking about.
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And they actually, like, use the WWE shit with it, man.
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So, these are, like, more, like, the garrison parties, like, parties in the ghetto.
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That pussy Lassan backed out like a keyboard warrior does.
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Bitch ass pussy Lassan needs to be renamed a Phobus for fear.
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He said he would do it, but then he mentioned something about us being broke or something
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In my head, I'm like, bro, I control real estate worth three and a half million dollars.
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I probably, I may even, I'm new to this YouTube thing and I may have a higher net worth than
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I mean, I'm an investor, so I don't know what he's talking about just because I don't show
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it, but no, I'd be happy to buy his plane ticket so he can come down, debate me and take
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So, yeah, when he said Brokey, I was like laughing in my head like, okay, bro.
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It's all fun and games till I fall on some of these girls from the top of the speaker.
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Yo, Myron, I don't know what is happening with them.
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Jock Kure got six years over here in the Netherlands for stabbing a promoter.
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I'll make a formal response to your boy, Hassan, probably tomorrow.
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We're talking about five-star frog splashing big girls on people right now.
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So we're going to go ahead and give you guys a quick little background on who Vibes Cartel
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Shout out to, before they were famous, they actually did a special on us before as well.
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And I figured, you know, who better to explain who Vibes Cartel is than these guys.
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So we'll go through his little history real quick.
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Also, guys, just to let y'all know, I'm going to be opening up the phone lines on today's
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So you'll be able to call into the show and talk with me and Dollface and give us your
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We're going to make this show a little bit more interactive.
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And yeah, man, we're really happy to have y'all here, man.
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This is going to be a little bit more of a fun show because, like I said, this is Jamaican
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This isn't really American law, but you guys asked for it.
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So since you guys asked for it, we're giving the people what they want.
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So before I play this, you got anything you want to say to people with Dollface?
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Before Vibes, Cartel will become one of Jamaica's most influential musical artists with track.
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He has light skin here and then notice what happens a little bit later.
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Sex like Clark's, Rompin' Shop, Summertime, Dancehall Hero, and Fever.
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And he's not in the music video, guys, because that music video was dropped in 2016 when he
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was arrested, or after he was arrested in 2014.
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Before he would find international success, collaborating with American artists, including
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Rihanna, Missy Elliott, Pitbull, and Busta Rhymes.
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Can you break down what Gaza means for the people real quick, Dollface?
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It's, um, like, uh, it's like the, yeah, I know, I don't, I just know it's Gaza and Gully.
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Um, and where's it, he's from a part of Jamaica that they call it Gazaville or something like
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That for people don't know on the map, but Gaza, that's out of Gaza, meaning the ghetto.
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And, um, just, yes, just so you guys know, um, this dude has a massive influence over
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When I was doing my research on him, uh, he's like almost like presidential status out
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I mean, you want to talk about that a little bit as far as like, cause you'd be going
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The thing with him, his influence is through his music.
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Like he influenced a lot of people, but also like, you know how people get rich and switch.
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He basically helped the people still like he put people on.
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So that's why he's such so big out there because it's not, he made an impact in a lot
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We had like 20 girls competing for his affection.
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Teachers, they didn't have that in the United States, right?
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So yeah, you had a bunch of chicks competing for him as well.
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What'd I tell you, I mean, women wanted, they'd rather share one winner than be a loser
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Before he was tried for two separate murders and sentenced to life in prison on April 3rd,
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He's been in prison since 2014, but he's been releasing music the whole fucking time.
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Can you tell, Delphi, tell people real quick, how much songs has he released since he's been
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And you know how you know somebody got a lot of songs?
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I remember a couple of years back, there was a party promoting that they only played Vibes
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I guess I'm showing my whole niggas in the chat.
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I mean, yeah, it's international, but I mean, that's not...
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Okay, I was going to say, what genre does that fall into?
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They say it's reggae up here, but it'll be, I guess, dancehall.
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Dancehall, with the DJing, all of that, I think...
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Well, not what I think, but I know hip-hop originated from dancehall.
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I hope you guys are having a good time as much as we are.
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And then Michael, me and Strugmire, we knew they would back out number one podcast in the world.
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Jury have spoken, the judge have spoken, and we now look forward to the court of appeal.
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As a young man, Vibes Kurtel was a promising student, but dedicated more and more of his time to his musical aspirations.
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When he was just 16 years old, he was kicked out of high school, but fortunately found a mentor in the dance hall legend, Bounty Killer.
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This helped to launch the promising young artist career, but their falling out was ugly, even leading to violence on the streets of Kingston.
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I'm not a religious leader, and I'm not a political leader, so I shouldn't be held responsible for growing a child's responsibility.
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And you guys are probably wondering, yes, that is Vibes Kurtel right there, isn't it?
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Yeah, guys, he did skin bleaching, which is why you guys are probably wondering, why the hell is he so much lighter skinned in his photographs versus right now on video?
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That is the same individual because I got confused, too.
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So that's why he's light-skinned in his photos and his more later appearances versus the older stuff.
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Real quick, can you give the people a background on who Bounty Killer is?
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He put, basically, Bounty Killer put Vibes Kurtel on.
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And then they ended up having a falling out, which led to some violence on the island, right?
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That's the time, because there was a time I didn't really follow up dance hall.
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You must have been at this time when they were fist fighting.
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Because early 2000s, I didn't really listen to dance hall.
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And a lot of drama happened during the early 2000s.
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Early 2000s, you were listening to fucking, what, Ja Rule or something?
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Man, yo, the music of the early 2000s was crazy.
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That's when dance hall got real popular in New York with the pasa pasa and the dancing
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But I never, during them times, I was American.
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I got introduced to reggae through Sean Paul, as much as you guys want to make fun of me.
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That's what, like, when he came out with, like, just give me the light.
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And that's when I noticed a guy hit on the map.
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Anyway, early 2000s, she was out here listening to High and Hair and stuff like that.
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My name is Michael McCrudden, documenting the life and career of Vibes Crattel.
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We've actually never covered any Jamaican dance hall artists in the past, but all that
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Just let me know who's next in the comments down below.
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Vibes Crattel was born Adijah Azim Palmer on January 7th, 1976 at Victoria Jubilee.
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So, because when we look at, like, some of the court documents and everything else like
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He was raised in the Waterford District of Portmore with his four sisters and one brother.
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Growing up, he idolized artists like Will Smith, Papa Sand, Ninja Man, and KRS-1, and began
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tending lyrics when he was just 11 years young.
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Two of Adijah's uncles were aspiring musicians who helped to encourage his musical.
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Will Smith, before he embarrassed himself with all the Jada Pickett bullshit that's going
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Adijah's parents emphasized discipline and education.
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In fact, his sister, Maureen, actually grew up to become a high school vice principal.
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He was such a bright student that one of his teachers had this to say.
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He could have become a rocket scientist if he had so desired.
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He attended Calabar High School, but after spending most of his time pursuing his musical interests,
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he was expelled when he was just 16 years young.
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Going by the name, Adi Banton, a nod to reggae artist, Boushu Banton, he recorded his first
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The 1993 track was called Love Fat Women, and Adi formed...
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You want to tell the people about that one real quick?
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I mean, there's Jamaican men that love fat women.
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Well, that explains them jumping on each other at the fucking...
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I guess there's a little bit of a fat love out there.
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Because I'm in my head, I'm like, what the fuck?
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His own group, Vibes Cartel, along with Mr. Lee and Escobar in 1996.
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The group didn't last long, but he decided to keep the name, but with different spelling
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as his own moniker as he transitioned into a career as a solo artist.
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While performing at a show at Portmore in 1998, he caught the attention of a popular
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Another dancehall singer known as Bounty Killer.
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Bounty headed up the musical collective called the Alliance and invited vibes to join.
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Adi made friends with another rising star, Vovato, and began writing for Bounty Killer,
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He also collaborated on songs like Girls Like Mine, Liquid Rhythm, and Gal Clown.
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Can you translate that for the people real fast?
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I didn't even hear what he said, but I think that was the time that he was beefing with
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Can you tell the people who Mavado is real fast?
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We all know that, but they talented though, so.
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2002, Vibes began recording a string of hits like Most High, Guns Like Mine, Bust My Gun
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He also collaborated with Wayne Marshall on tracks like Why Crazy Rhythm, New Millennium,
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Mad Ends Rhythm, and Why Again, Good To Go Rhythm.
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By 2003, he was selling more singles than another artist on the reggae charts.
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Other than fellow Alliance member, Elephant Man.
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He became the first artist in dancehall to physically attack another on stage.
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The album Up To D Time on October 28, 2003, with both Timeless and more Up To D Time following
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in 2004 during Singles Pitcher and The Tech Buddy.
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Thank you, Dolphins, for that fantastic translation.
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I would have never been able to come up with that.
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With his career beginning to take off, his status as Bounty Killer's protege was making
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Then a personal incident marked a clear break in the relationship.
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When Bounty Killer's sworn rival, Beanie Man, got married, not only did Vibes Cartel attend
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the wedding, he brought Bounty Killer's ex-girlfriend as his date.
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Six Vibes married New York bank supervisor, Stacey Ann Elliot.
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But the marriage would end in divorce just two.
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This must have been built before he was famous.
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Because I know he could get way better chicks than this.
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Two years later, but his love life would eventually come together.
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He's presently married to Tanisha, Shorty Johnson, and together they have three sons.
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Vibes Kirtel left the alliance in 2006 and formed his own collective, Portmore Empire, and a label, Adi Jaheim Records.
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He immediately began trading in Portmore is the town that he's from, right?
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Insults with bounty killer and Movado, who soon became the bounty's new protege.
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The beef spilled over into the streets with a number of murders and shootings linked to the Gaza Gully War, prompted by the Dantel rivalry.
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Vibes Kirtel is nothing anywhere with any artists.
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Vibes Kirtel is just doing music, making hit songs, you know what I mean?
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Making products, and overall just making money.
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So not between all the shootings and the killings and everything else that happened.
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So it looks like him and Bounty Hunter, is that the guy's name?
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So between the crazy speaking and everything else like that.
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So I guess they had beef, and then he ended up discovering Movado, and then since Bounty Killer had an issue with Vibes Kirtel, Movado aligned with him, and then they just started attacking each other, I guess.
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Public officials called on the artists to squash the beef.
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In 2007, both Movado and Vibes Kirtel publicly announced an end to the hostilities.
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But by the summer of 2008, both artists were releasing new tracks aimed at each other, and more violence between the artists' groups followed.
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In 2009, Jamaican Prime Minister Bruce Golding asked for a peace meeting and planned to have a peace concert in Barbados featuring both Movado and Vibes Kirtel.
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I think it ended up getting canceled or whatever.
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Well, is Barbados considered like neutral territory?
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Or they probably just wanted a different location.
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Yeah, Bajans are pretty peaceful, at least from what Walt doesn't have an angry bone in his body.
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I've maybe seen him mad in years that I've known him.
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But Vibes Kirtel did drop the song, Life We Live In, as a call for peace.
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And that year also expanded his entrepreneurship beyond music.
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He launched a line of liquor called Street Vibes Rum and a line of prophyl addicts called
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If the word, the D word wasn't actually being used.
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So he was trying to see if he could say it on TV.
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Penetration, which makes sense that he would release his own condom line, I guess.
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Ah, this guy's a smart entrepreneur, my friend.
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And the same, the same bleaching cream he use on his face, he's selling.
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Then on top that he makes music that makes me want to smash.
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More awards would come in 2009 with three wins at the EME awards.
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Then after the success of his singles, Clark's, Clark's 2, Clark's Again, and Clark's Where
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We Have, sales of that brand of shoes spiked in Jamaica.
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Everybody have the abs when you get me clear abs.
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So in 2011, he released his own shoe line named Addie's.
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He also came out with a line of skin bleaching cake soap.
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He said his face is clean like he washed his face with the cake soap.
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So basically, when he bleached his face, it's supposed to be clean.
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I want to see all them angry black women that hate me go after this guy.
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Okay, because the people are going to ask, do you bleach your skin?
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You could definitely tell when somebody bleached.
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Okay, because that's still going to be naturally, like, darker, right?
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That's why sometimes they'll have to, like, use certain bleaching cream to rub out their
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They had a whole documentary about bleaching in Jamaica.
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Like, he sees that there's, hey, people like to bleach their skin here, they like my music,
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I'm going to release condoms, and I'm going to continue to make music that incites, what's
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I hope you guys are enjoying the video, by the way, man.
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You know, like I said, this is a little bit more of a funny one.
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Derek Mitchell, Five Buck, skin bleaching is epidemic in the Caribbean and Africa.
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He was my uncle's neighbor before he got arrested.
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Basically, he's saying Gaza, which is the neighborhood.
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When he got, like, when they were doing the trial or whatever, the people were outside
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Like I said, this channel isn't necessarily about making money.
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This channel is about, you know, getting y'all the entertainment.
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X-Rated and Mac Dre were releasing records from prison in the early 90s.
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I'm going to release a documentary for y'all on Tuesday.
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I'm debating whether I'm going to re-release the episode that me and Dollface did on Hanson,
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Maybe we'll record another one for y'all where we react to a show.
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And then we got Fry-Hunted Bands, Shelly Fraser Price on the chat.
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I think she won like five years ago in the year that she didn't win.
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And then she came back from the pregnancy and smacked them still?
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Well, see, with female sports, it's like when a girl is dominant, she's like dominant.
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Like you look at like the UConn women's basketball team, win for years, you know, just smashing
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Yo, I'm telling you, I'm learning alongside you guys, man.
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She's helping me out because I don't know anything about Jamaican culture, to be honest
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I'm learning right now alongside with you guys, man.
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And it's 1,200 of you guys in here, by the way.
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Even though I don't know much about Jamaican law, whatever you guys asked for.
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And I brought a real Jamaican here as well to help y'all out with it.
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Oh, they calling you fake Jamaican in the chat?
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I'm just born here, but I grew up around Jamaicans my whole life.
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His own reality show, Teach a Pet, which featured 20 women living in a house together
00:38:01.460
In September of 2011, vibes cartel became the first artist to be banned from the airwaves
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by the National Communications Network of Guyana.
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The same month, he was arrested by police for possession of marijuana.
00:38:23.540
It's probably not a very serious crime in Jamaica, but the country's major investigation
00:38:27.840
task force later tacked on two more charges, illegal possession of a firearm and conspiracy
00:38:33.300
From Prison Vibes authored a book with his business associate.
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And you can see the Gaza tattoo here with the famous Malcolm X pose.
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In American culture, the teardrop tattoos mean you killed somebody.
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Michael Dawson called the voice of the Jamaican ghetto incarcerated, but not silenced, which
00:39:08.040
While awaiting his trial for that murder, new charges were added in connection to a second
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Vibes was charged with the murder of Clive Lizard Williams and for preventing the course
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One guy here, M-O-G-K, says the teardrops in Jamaica means someone who died.
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So it might not necessarily mean you killed someone, but it means someone died.
00:39:26.300
So maybe he lost some people that were close to him.
00:39:33.400
After his associate, Vanessa Gazza Slim Sadler, allegedly claimed that she was robbed
00:39:37.920
by Lizard, apparently to mislead the police into believing that he was still alive.
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And Lizard is the alleged victim, by the way, guys.
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We're going to read about a little bit more who was allegedly killed.
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Found not guilty of the murder of Barrington Burton murder, but after a 65-day trial, the
00:39:52.120
longest in Jamaican history, on March 13, 2014, Vibes Cartel was found guilty of the
00:39:57.780
murder of Clive Lizard Williams, and he was sentenced to life in prison.
00:40:04.340
While plenty of artists have continued on careers throughout long...
00:40:23.200
Vibes Cartel still releases music so regularly that it feels like he never even left.
00:40:43.180
He beat one, and then the other one he got in prison for with, like, four other defendants.
00:41:04.240
But he's releasing music, though, still, right?
00:41:06.540
How much music has he released since he's been in jail?
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I can't even tell you because so much song's been released since then.
00:41:22.080
But when he releases the music, isn't it, like, based on, like, stuff that's actually happening
00:41:30.800
He's on the track with some new artists in Jamaica.
00:41:40.500
I think it's Dons and Divas or something like that.
00:41:43.020
Meanwhile, we got artists that have been free for a decade plus that haven't released
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Former special agent Officer Myron, you were the best federal agent the U.S. has ever seen.
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I hereby honor you the Director's Award for Excellence.
00:42:10.340
I had one of the best cases in the U.S. back then.
00:42:23.540
It says, when last the Babylon boy make your set good like ice in a freezer?
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Okay, translate the first sentence for us before you get into the second one.
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Okay, so she's saying, Dolly, okay, so she's like, when the last time Babylon boy, meaning Babylon, they call police.
00:42:46.100
Basically saying to set good like an ice in a freezer.
00:42:58.560
Basically, it's basically saying, when the last time, basically, we fucked.
00:43:10.280
When the last time you give him the Benz Panani, make him go on, ride it out.
00:43:13.760
So Benz Panani, meaning, you know, Benz is a high-priced car.
00:43:17.500
So they're trying to say, like, Benz, my pom-pom is like Benz price.
00:43:23.000
This is extremely creative ways to ask these questions.
00:43:45.160
Active, but denies that he's continued to record behind bars.
00:43:54.160
He continues to release tracks that seem oddly relevant today.
00:43:57.000
And inside the Tower Street prison, there was a studio and a low-frequency radio station
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How do they have a recording studio at the prison?
00:44:09.660
Because how the hell is he coming out with all this music?
00:44:11.560
This would never fly in the United States, bro.
00:44:22.780
Well, you know, because this is Before They Were Famous.
00:44:32.760
And hit the like button on there and show them some love.
00:44:35.400
This isn't the main YouTube channel that I use, which is why I wasn't subbed to it.
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So now we're going to go ahead into this documentary right here.
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And this documents the actual takedown when he was arrested.
00:45:10.560
When you go in England and they say certain terminology and words, they understand them.
00:45:26.040
That makes a lot more sense because now that I think about it, they use the term roadman a lot in the UK.
00:45:32.380
And there's like a lot of Jamaicans that speak that way and have that slang.
00:45:35.960
And I always wonder, like, why is there such a huge?
00:45:49.760
I don't really know, but Trinidadians and Virgin Island people say that a lot.
00:45:57.240
If we could get a translator in the building to translate that, we need subtitles in this motherfucker,
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This is not Myron Gaines' comfort zone right here.
00:46:13.300
And I think we're caught up on everything, right?
00:46:21.200
The popular and controversial dancehall artist of Vibes Cartel, whose given name is Deja
00:46:29.460
Palmer, remains in police custody this evening.
00:46:32.420
He was arrested before daybreak this morning after police raided a new Kingston hotel and
00:46:38.540
But in a move that could indicate that the police have other charges in mind, officers
00:46:42.720
spent much of the day searching premises linked to the entertainer.
00:46:45.720
On September 29, 2011, cartel was arrested by police for possession of ganja, Jamaica's
00:46:52.300
major investigation task force, then later charged him with the murder of a Jamaican
00:46:56.140
businessman, Barrington Burton, conspiracy to murder and illegal possession of a firearm.
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Kirk Wright was in tow as investigators went from one location to another.
00:47:05.380
So they went ahead and picked them up, guys, back in like 2011, all right?
00:47:09.640
And you guys are going to see here that clearly there was a little bit more to it because
00:47:30.140
It was a movie that was released on Whitey Bulger a couple of years ago that I thought
00:47:33.700
Or I'll react to one of the one of the documentaries on him.
00:47:37.040
But yeah, we could definitely cover the Whitey Bulger case, the mafia, the Winter Hill
00:47:48.680
OK, but we could definitely I'll definitely cover that.
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I'll write that down for y'all and then hit the damn like button.
00:47:56.540
Because what I've noticed, guys, is when I react to the documentaries, I have to record
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And then that way I don't get hit with like, you know, copyright, anything like that.
00:48:12.360
We reacted to Hanson, Robert Hanson, and the video got taken down after like all this other
00:48:17.600
stuff, even though it was like 100 percent, you know, fair use.
00:48:20.580
But once I upload it and then I, you know, I put in my any appeals that I might have to
00:48:25.620
But I read I'm re-releasing the Hanson one for y'all.
00:48:30.600
And we're going to go ahead and record another one for y'all, maybe tonight or tomorrow where
00:48:34.540
we cover another case, because you guys really like those documentary reviews.
00:48:43.560
You talk about the same things I've been going through, 80s, 90s and 2000s.
00:48:47.760
Feminism, etiquette and how to be a woman to get the man.
00:48:56.340
And if you don't adhere to it, they're going to just move on to the next guy.
00:48:58.860
And if you do, then, you know, it is what it is.
00:49:00.960
But trust me, guys, girls are not conceding any of the leverage that they have nowadays.
00:49:05.500
So let's keep going on with the with the documentary here.
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Investigators were kept busy all afternoon as they souped down on several premises reportedly
00:49:26.280
The police team comprising the Caribbean Search Center and the Flying Squad first went
00:49:31.280
to the upscale Sinanji neighborhood of Norbrook, armed with.
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And that's a really nice neighborhood in Jamaica, right where he lives at now.
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A team member carefully searches a knapsack allegedly found inside the DJ's home.
00:50:01.460
After more than an hour, the team emerged with several bags containing various items.
00:50:08.860
That's like a Jamaican thing that they refer to like a musician is artist as a DJ.
00:50:14.220
The DJ also emerged in handcuffs to be taken to another premises linked to him.
00:50:19.860
Now, after that detailed search of the entertainer's house in Norbrook, the police moved on to another location here in Havendale.
00:50:27.080
At this time, it was a premises on Swallowfield Avenue in Havendale, St. Andrew, which persons in the area confirmed had been damaged by fire about two weeks ago.
00:50:37.520
At each location, the police brought the DJ inside the premises before conducting a search.
00:50:42.480
The police spent about half an hour of the Havendale location before removing a scorched computer hard drive and what appeared to be a computer.
00:50:51.840
The team then went to Portmore in St. Catherine, independent city to be exact, where they spent some time searching another premises.
00:50:59.860
Many persons, including his girlfriend Shorty, converged at the location.
00:51:04.280
As the DJ emerged from the premises, persons jeered the police, saying cartel should be freed.
00:51:11.720
He was quickly whisked away by the police to an undisclosed location before his journey across the corporate area and St. Catherine.
00:51:19.760
So they searched a bunch of his residences and got him out of there ASAP.
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So anytime, guys, I mean, this is any country that practices common law.
00:51:28.780
When they arrest you and they're searching your house and they're searching a bunch of other places that you live as well,
00:51:33.700
you best believe that they're trying to build a strong case against you for potentially other charges.
00:51:39.240
OK, the whole purposes of search warrants a lot of times, guys, is to gather evidence to substantiate and or more than likely to create new charges.
00:51:49.020
OK, so the fact that they were not only arresting him, but also searching means that they had quite a bit of probable cause, right, to be able to go ahead and search.
00:51:59.540
Now, obviously, every country is different. But in general, when it comes to the United States, England, Australia,
00:52:04.700
these first world countries that they practice common law, typically the threshold to be able to search is probable cause.
00:52:09.920
OK, they might have a different term for it, but it's the general same amount of evidence needed.
00:52:15.220
The popular artist had spent the morning here at the Kingston Central Police Station.
00:52:21.140
The DJ was brought here after being nabbed during a raid at the New Kingston Hotel about four o'clock this morning.
00:52:27.840
Two other associates, including a woman, were held.
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A quantity of ganja was allegedly found in the room they occupied.
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But the quantity of ganja, that is marijuana, gentlemen.
00:52:39.020
Now, question, Dolphase, is weed actually illegal in Jamaica?
00:52:43.680
That, I don't know. You would have to ask a caller.
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Because I'm not sure. But like I said, when I go down there, I see it on the street.
00:53:04.040
But this, yes, it's illegal, but no one gives a fuck.
00:53:11.880
I mean, even here in the United States, weed laws were a lot different even here.
00:53:15.440
You know, a lot of states have decriminalized it since.
00:53:18.180
But yeah, OK, some people are saying it's legal now.
00:53:49.160
Sources say murder charges could be laid against persons close to the controversial entertainer.
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The DJ's attorneys said that was when the shit first broke out.
00:53:59.240
They will be waiting for the police to indicate the way forward.
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Though cartel was granted bail for the Burton's murder at a sum of three million Jamaican dollars,
00:54:10.860
he remained in jail in connection with a second murder of one Clive Lizard Williams.
00:54:18.100
Addie was charged, along with Sean Storm and others, including Vanessa Gaza's Slim Sadler,
00:54:23.220
with perverting the course of justice after Sadler allegedly claimed that Williams had robbed her
00:54:27.520
in order to mislead the police into believing that he was still alive.
00:54:32.220
Cartel and the others are alleged to have killed Clive Lizard Williams over two missing guns,
00:54:39.600
During the case, the key prosecution witness testified that the guns were given to him and Clive Lizard Williams
00:54:47.300
He testified that cartel demanded their return.
00:54:50.720
On Tuesday, August 16, 2011, he said the entertainer sent for them.
00:54:55.480
They were taken by Sean Storm in a taxi to No. 7 Swallofield Avenue in Havendale.
00:55:00.220
First, the voice notes begin in two days before the August 16, 2011 incident,
00:55:04.820
where Clive Lizard Williams is believed to be killed.
00:55:11.340
Okay, this is the voice recording call that I think they're using as evidence as well.
00:55:19.280
And just so you guys know, it comes out, $3 million Jamaican dollars comes out to about $20,000 U.S.,
00:55:26.320
This is as of now, so probably was less before.
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This is, remember, this is back in what, 2011 when he posted this bond or whatever,
00:55:39.660
So this is a voice recording call that they actually pulled from his phone,
00:55:43.960
if I'm not mistaken, a voice note, right, where he's talking about some stuff.
00:55:47.780
They're going to beep it out a bit, but I'm going to go ahead and play it for y'all.
00:55:51.600
It's really tough to understand because it's Patois, but we'll see what he's saying here.
00:56:01.800
Hombre, they ain't no such a b****, Lizard and we.
00:56:07.400
them can't find the two b****, new shoes them when we give them, dawg.
00:56:11.420
So them lock them in a one horse, side of all feet to a billop, dawg,
00:56:15.180
and I b****, sell that two shoes, and can't find no b****, those wedging.
00:56:21.300
Yo, I just tell them, say, make sure I get my shoes by, yes, I clack in a bad man.
00:56:24.900
Now, during his testimony, the key prosecution witness told the court
00:56:27.900
that shoes was another name for gunner and lace bullet.
00:56:31.380
And that was some of the evidence used against him to convict him in 2014.
00:56:38.100
That don't even sound like him. That's the crazy thing.
00:56:41.060
Yeah, and there's some controversies as well, which we're going to address here in a second, guys.
00:56:44.660
Someone actually made a really good, more of a conspiracy video,
00:56:47.900
as far as, like, why he's, you know, he could not have committed that murder.
00:56:53.580
The lack of evidence, and evidence being tampered with no dead body to confirm William's death,
00:57:14.420
and with the hatred for him by the Upper Class Society on April 3rd, 2014.
00:57:19.360
Cartel and three others were sentenced to life in prison for the 2011 murder.
00:57:23.120
Adige Palma is to serve 35 years before he becomes eligible for parole.
00:57:40.560
So he got 35 years before eligible for parole, and these are his co-conspirators.
00:57:45.100
Do you know anything about these people, Dolph Racer?
00:57:47.820
I know one of the girls got hit with, like, tampering because she...
00:57:56.000
She lied about one of the guys, like, leaving the country or some shit like that, or the victim.
00:58:01.720
She tampered with the investigation, essentially, is what she did.
00:58:09.460
And just so y'all know, there were hundreds of people lined up when he was getting sentenced,
00:58:25.060
or when they read the conviction and waiting on the verdict and everything else like that.
00:58:31.640
I mean, hell, some of y'all in the chat love him as well.
00:58:55.680
Where you come and searching on me, you so far?
00:59:05.040
She lied that the deceased robbed their lizard.
00:59:07.920
Who lizard himself, apparently, from what people are saying, was a killer himself.
00:59:12.440
So, and we'll talk about that here in a second.
00:59:38.720
Oh, so this is a song about setting him free before he went into jail?
01:00:04.100
Okay, so let's hit some of these chats real quick.
01:00:09.460
No, no, like, get some of the chats up real fast.
01:00:17.980
Go ahead and like the video, goddammit, because, you know, it took quite a bit of time for me
01:00:24.940
Shout out to her for, you know, getting the documents and everything else like that and
01:00:29.100
So she was a big part in making this presentation happen.
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Because if it were for her, I probably wouldn't be doing this case right now because I don't
01:00:39.800
I'm not educated enough on Jamaican culture, music, and the legal system.
01:00:46.680
You know, I did my best because I don't know about the legal system there as well.
01:00:53.980
And it's interesting because I didn't really know about the case.
01:00:57.900
But doing the research, I'm like, wow, like doing the other cases with you made me like
01:01:05.740
Like you were able to like analyze it a little bit.
01:01:14.640
Some of these chests before I play the next video.
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So I got another video here that we're going to play for y'all real fast, guys.
01:01:38.420
You want to give the people a background on this guy real quick?
01:01:40.520
Because he's been covering this case extensively, if I'm not mistaken.
01:01:45.220
He's definitely, I've been watching the videos leading up to this trial, and he definitely
01:02:02.440
Because real talk, guys, it really helps a lot with the algorithm.
01:02:08.380
And yeah, man, like I said, I did this video for y'all, man.
01:02:11.260
I guess, you know, I don't know anything really about Jamaican culture.
01:02:14.540
So I had to do some research, get ready, and study this thing up.
01:02:20.200
Because you guys have been requesting this case since, like, the beginning of FedIt, man.
01:02:22.800
I remember, hell, for a while, a couple months.
01:02:26.180
I mean, you were with me when they were first asking for this case.
01:02:30.780
The name of this video is Vibes Cartel Was Not at the House.
01:02:33.480
So we're going to play a portion of this thing so you guys can kind of get another perspective here
01:02:36.860
on why Vibes Cartel may not be the person that was involved in this murder.
01:02:42.640
And then on top of that, guys, just so you know that there is an appeal out there,
01:02:47.300
Again, everybody, it's your host with the most.
01:02:49.080
As you know now that this whole Vibes Cartel appeal thing with Sean Storm and the rest of the fellas,
01:02:59.400
Remember, I said that this would be the perfect time for Movado to land in Jamaica.
01:03:05.140
Because something else is more pressing right now.
01:03:15.820
Are the police still pressing for him to come back to Jamaica?
01:03:19.040
If you know anything about that, answer that in the comment section.
01:03:24.380
lawyers insist that Vibes Cartel was not present when Lizard was killed.
01:03:29.620
So Vibes Cartel was not present when Clive Lizard was killed.
01:03:31.880
And remember, guys, Clive Lizard is a business associate that was killed.
01:03:35.760
And just to give you guys a little bit of background on him real fast.
01:03:39.700
And then the other girl was saying that he robbed her.
01:03:42.880
And the other thing, too, guys, is that you got to understand that no one has his body.
01:03:47.440
And there was reports that he fled the country and he left.
01:03:55.680
So that's also very interesting as well, that they were able to successfully prosecute this without having a body.
01:04:22.560
His attorney is insisting during the appeal case.
01:04:25.700
And, of course, it's his attorney's job to insist that her client was not present, right, while someone is being murdered, given the fact that he is on a murder trial.
01:04:36.560
But there are so many information, pieces of information here that do not add up.
01:04:43.220
Honestly, in my personal opinion, I mean, those things are the whole case blown out already.
01:04:47.700
Big holes are in it that I don't see any way that the prosecution are going to be able to patch these holes up.
01:04:55.700
But, however, I'm going to go off of what's out there and not what I personally feel.
01:05:02.940
He's going to talk a little bit about the evidence here.
01:05:05.040
So, Miles Cartel's lead attorney, Valerie Nita Robertson, told the appeal court on Wednesday, July 18th, that the world boss DJ could not have been at a Havendale St. Andrew House where Clive Lizard Williams was allegedly being killed.
01:05:20.240
Because Cartel was at the Corporate Area Hospital when the alleged murder was committed.
01:05:29.640
So, the cell phone data shows that he was at a hospital at the same time that Clive was allegedly being murdered.
01:05:37.860
So, he could not have been at two places at once.
01:05:41.780
During the appeal case hearing, the lawyer stated that the dance hall entertainer arrived at the Corporate Area Hospital.
01:05:49.720
Now, people, them have actual proof, you know, time checked in with doctors seen by someone at this specific time documented.
01:06:05.100
You know, so, he was there because he signed in or checked in or whatever it may be.
01:06:08.100
So, he could not have been at the other place at the same time.
01:06:10.320
So, not only does the cell phone confirm this, but also other witness statements and or potentially even cameras if it's a hospital.
01:06:17.100
I know people are going to still try to argue this away.
01:06:19.500
But, there are so many things in this case that still has me questioning, like, why had all this not come to light before?
01:06:27.880
And the issue is that judge that was overseeing the case made sure that he omitted or barred all these types of evidence from entering.
01:06:42.260
So, again, she's saying that her client could not have been there because, at that time, there's documented proof that the entertainer arrived at the Corporate Area Hospital at 7.48 p.m. on the same day as the alleged incident.
01:07:01.360
Because nobody still doesn't know if he's dead yet.
01:07:03.220
And there has still been no proof that he was murdered in the house or location that they're claiming he was.
01:07:12.260
It would mean that Mr. Palmer would not be at the house when this thing, the murder, happened.
01:07:24.380
The attorneys argued that this information challenges the accuracy of cell tower information that was used during the entertainer's 2014 murder trial.
01:07:39.940
They have documented proof of what time he was at there, at the hospital.
01:07:46.860
And it does not match up to the cell phone, cell tower information that was used during his trial in 2014.
01:07:55.740
Somebody made up something and made it fit conveniently.
01:08:00.040
Police Inspector Warren Williams, who heads the police cybercrime unit, had given evidence that cell tower information placed cartel at the Havendale house at 7.52 p.m.
01:08:14.200
Now, with cell tower information, guys, you guys are probably wondering what the hell is cell tower information.
01:08:21.380
The cell phone is continuously looking for a cell tower to connect to so that it has service, okay?
01:08:27.280
As soon as that phone is on, it's always pinging trying to find a cell tower to get service to, okay?
01:08:35.700
That data, okay, can be gathered from law enforcement agencies through a subpoena, through a grand jury subpoena, through a search warrant, whatever it may be, depending on how invasive they want to get with it.
01:08:44.900
And they can go ahead and get where your phone was at, at a certain location, at a certain time, based off of where the phone was trying to locate a cell tower.
01:08:55.440
This is the same evidence that they're using against YNW Mellie, guys, in the case, which is why it's so strong, because the phone puts him at the place of the crime the entire way, which goes against what his co-defense, the people that were covering for Mellie, they all lied, saying he was here, he was there, blah, blah, blah.
01:09:12.920
But the reality is the cell phone shows he was in the locations where his two friends were murdered.
01:09:18.120
So cell phone location, guys, is extremely reliable because there's no disputing it, you know?
01:09:24.260
When you go ahead and look at cell phone records, you can't dispute the fact that you were at this location at this time.
01:09:30.260
And with the way technology is nowadays, they can pinpoint it down to fucking meters, guys.
01:09:36.280
So in the case of the Mellie case, they were able to show that he walked around the car, shot into the vehicle, et cetera, okay?
01:09:42.920
So cell phone location data is extremely reliable as far as figuring out where someone was at a given time.
01:09:52.320
Now, I want to know, because is this police a techie?
01:09:57.520
Does this police work with Digicel or whoever else is the carrier and has privy information to this cell phone tower information?
01:10:08.180
Because this is not just readily information, right?
01:10:17.900
In the United States, you can get cell phone tower stuff depending on...
01:10:21.060
You can do it with a grand jury spina or you could do it with a search warrant, okay?
01:10:25.800
If it's historical, all right, typically you may need a search warrant for that.
01:10:29.720
Again, it depends on what type of investigation you're running, what kind of records you're trying to get.
01:10:34.640
The more invasive, the more probable cause you need, okay?
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But typically, you can go ahead and get it through a search warrant, all right?
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Or you could do an active one where you listen, like where you're actually pinging the phone, right?
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Where you're actually like seeing where they're at at the same time.
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This is commonly used in drug investigations, which is what I used to do, right?
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If I knew I was watching a drug dealer, you wouldn't be able to do surveillance on them.
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So you can go ahead and do something called a ping warrant, which is you could track their phone.
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Or you could do historical cell site data, which also requires a search warrant.
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And that would give you where the phone was at certain times, at certain dates,
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which is what a lot of homicide investigators will use a lot of the times on the dates of alleged crime.
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Presented at court at the time, last year at the trial, I mean at the trial in 2014.
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Coach, by the way, stop the show real quick, man.
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And we only got, we got 1.4K, you guys watching right now.
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But we only got, what, 800, like not even, what, 900 likes?
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Guys, get us to at least, at least, we should be at 1,200 easy right now.
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You know, I got a fake Jamaican here, Dollface, allegedly, according to all you guys, she's a fake Jamaican.
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You have anything you want to say to the people about that, by the way?
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Hey, I can't convince you if I'm Jamaican or not.
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If you want to believe I'm a fake Jamaican, that's cool.
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And then also, you know, we're breaking down this case for y'all, man.
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This isn't even in my purview, really, but we're doing it for the people.
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So all I ask, guys, is that you guys like the video, man.
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You don't have to donate a dollar to the stream.
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Like I said, this is really for entertainment purposes and education.
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I want to get another plaque so I can flex it on the haters.
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And you do that by liking the video and subscribing.
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You don't have to donate a dollar to the stream.
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His attorney is saying, no, he could not have been there because at 748, he was at the hospital.
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However, Nita Robinson cited evidence from the main prosecution witness also that he arrived at the house at 8 p.m.
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And that after the events he witnessed at the house, he personally took cartel to the hospital close to 9 p.m.
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This is what the prosecution's witness is saying.
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Now, mind you, again, must I remind you that it is documented at the hospital that Mr. Palmer checked in at the hospital at 7 p.m.
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So here you have the key witness to the prosecution saying that him see a bugger thing go under the house.
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He's saying a lot of things happening at the house.
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After all that went down, it was about 9 o'clock that he took cartel to the hospital.
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Cartel, whose real name is Adija Palmer, was convicted in 2014, as we all know, along with his protege, Sean Storm, real name Sean Campbell,
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and Kahira Jones, and Andre St. John, for the killing of Clive Williams, a.k.a. Lizard.
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They were all given a mandatory life sentence, right?
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And they are supposed to serve out all this time.
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But here we stand at the court of appeals because they have been granted appeal and they are fighting for their freedom once again.
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And I must admit, this is very compelling now on behalf of the defense because there are big holes being blown.
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There are shotgun-sized holes being blown in this case right now.
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Someone said, Soflo, where is Mr. Finson, Tom Tavares Finson, big, high-power Tom Tavares Finson, where is he now?
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How come he's not showing his face more regularly?
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How come he's not the one that's out in the forefront like how he was in 2014 at the trial?
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But I can make a wild guess that all the attorneys are working together that represent this team of men, right?
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And what they're doing is they're putting a fresh face, a fresh face to the whole thing.
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Because I remember, I know, under Mr. Tom Tavares Finson and his son, the case, they failed.
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And I remember specifically Tom Tavares Finson saying something to the effect of,
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It is that we had so much that we could have put forward.
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Because we over here, looking in from the outside, we were saying,
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Well, damn, I wouldn't want a lawyer like that because I don't think he was aggressive enough in defending his client's freedom.
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I mean, you have a high-profile client here, and you have all this information to free the client.
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The other thing, too, also, is a defense attorney didn't go hard enough on defending him as well.
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And you would think, like, yo, like, this is a high-profile case.
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And then it challenged the evidence hard enough.
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And the thing is, guys, you got to understand what all criminal cases is.
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When you have a criminal case, it's the defense's job to attack the evidence, okay?
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And when you attack the evidence, you're going to attack chain of custody issues.
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You're going to attack with how the evidence was gathered.
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You're going to attack the validity of the evidence.
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These are all things that you have to attack to be able to make the prosecution's case weaker.
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So you got to remember that the prosecution has to be dead on.
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The defense, all they have to do is show that there's a little bit of doubt.
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Or, hey, I've been able to prove that this witness has lied in the past.
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All you have to do is muddy up the waters a little bit as a defense, and then get it to what?
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That's all you got to do is create reasonable doubt that, okay, he probably killed him, but I'm not 100% sure.
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The laws are written in a way where you're innocent until proven guilty, and you've got to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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And the burden of performance is on the government to prove that you are, in fact, the killer, all right?
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And that's the case in most countries that practice common law.
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In there, willy-nilly came out every day, spoke to the media as if it's all going well, and bam, we got hit with guilty verdict and then life sentence.
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And I remember Mr. Finson saying they're shocked because they actually, they did not push as hard as they could have because half of what they heard in there made no sense to them.
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And they did not and could not still believe that Judge Burt Reynolds actually went through with that verdict, given everything that went down in that courtroom.
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And I think it was a 10-1 decision where it was 11 jurors, 10 of them said, yeah, he's guilty.
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And then another, I think one person was like, nah, but they were still able to convict him.
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I've heard it's so conventional they avoid bringing it up at trials.
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Can you cover crime broths Bumpy Johnson and drug trafficker Frank Lucas during a 1960 heroin epidemic in contrast to the movie American Gangster and show us how this drug ring came to an end?
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Maybe we'll watch the movie Blue Magic or some shit like that.
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Okay, so we kind of got an idea here now from this video.
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So the other thing I want to also bring to your guys' attention is another piece of evidence that they were able to show that has an issue with it, which was a cell phone that they seized from him.
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So I'm going to go ahead and pull this appeal up for y'all real fast.
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And guys, to call into the show, by the way, and I'm going to go ahead and fire up the phone lines right now.
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So, okay, the number to call into the show, guys, is 515-605-9740.
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And I'm going to go ahead and pull it up for y'all.
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Thank you guys so much for the support, by the way.
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Chris has this shit organized in a whole other way.
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And then we're going to analyze this last piece of evidence here.
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And then, uh, we'll start taking some of your show now.
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Uh, and, uh, yeah, we'll take some of your calls.
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So, the other thing I want to talk to you guys about when I stop sharing this, I'm going to share this screen right here real fast with y'all before we take the phone calls.
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This is an appeal that was filed on behalf of, um, your boy, Vibes Cartel.
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A shout-out to Dollface for getting me this document.
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Like I said, she did a bunch of work on this case for y'all, man.
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So, you guys got to thank her as much as you guys call her a fake Jamaican.
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Um, she was able to get some real Jamaican stuff here.
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Uh, this is the, uh, the court, um, out of the Court of Appeals here, as you guys can see.
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Um, here's our boy right here, Adija Palmer, right, and his other co-defendants.
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So, the thing here that we were going to, you know, pay attention to is a phone, okay?
01:21:03.240
So, one of the things that they want to attack, right, is the phone that was seized from, um, Vibes Cartel.
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So, the technology evidence that has two main aspects to it.
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The first is an offshoot of the analysis of the effect of the admission of CDJS2 on the right to privacy.
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The second is the admissibility of a cellular telephone that is said to have been taken from Mr. Palmer during the course of the investigation of Mr. Williams' death.
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Um, remember, guys, Mr. Williams is the victim, Clive Williams.
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On the issue of the admissibility of JS2 through the analysis conducted above, uh, has concluded that the issue does not qualify for reference under Section 110.
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Uh, it does not appear that it gave the court some concern given the departure by police for at least a second time from the provision of the ICA.
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The court also considered the importance of the application of the constitutional right to privacy.
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Accordingly, it does seem that the issue warrants referral to the lordship by virtue of Section 35 of the JA.
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Mr. Taylor conceded that this was an area of exceptional public importance.
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Okay, so we're going to go ahead to the second thing that references the phone.
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Uh, did the fact that the information which was provided by the communicator, communications provider, DigiCell, to the police about the use of Exhibit 14C of BlackBerry Cellular Telephone.
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Um, and DigiCell, guys, is very big in the Caribbean.
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Okay, um, and I think, is it the main, uh, issue, um, service provider in Jamaica, DigiCell?
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Um, on the communications provider network in circumstances where there was not strict compliance with the procedure laid down provisions of the interception of communications act give risk to the breach of the Charter of Fundamental Rights and Freedoms of 2011.
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Okay, so that's another thing that they're trying to go at it for.
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And then on the issue of admissibility of the cellular telephone, which is a crucial part of the prosecution's case, the applicants assert that the use and handling of the instrument is plagued with uncertainties that should have prevented its admission into evidence.
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And we're going to talk about those uncertainties here in a second.
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According to the applicants, the uncertainties surrounding the instrument had its contents are such that not only was the learned judge wrong to have admitted it into evidence, but this court erred in principle in holding that the mere possibility of tampering is insufficient to prevent admission into evidence.
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The applicants argue that the court's approach reduces the standard of proof that the prosecution bears.
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The applicants extend that the reasoning of the admission of JS2, which is probably what the evidence is numbered as, you know, uh, which also suffered from their uncertainty that it may be different from the master or control copy of the CD JS1, which had gone missing.
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So long story short, what the hell does this mean in English guys?
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So the main thing is this essentially the phone that was seized from vibes cartel was held improperly by the police.
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It was seized by the police and put into evidence.
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Once it was put into evidence, one of the cops took it out and brought it home and he used it to make a phone call, if I'm not mistaken.
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And then he brought it back and put it back into evidence.
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And there were some issues with obviously chain of custody here.
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This is how they were able to beat the OJ case.
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They attacked the evidence and chain of custody because anytime you seize a piece of evidence, guys, the agent or the law enforcement officer that seizes it, seizes it, puts it in a bag, seals the bag, not able to open it again.
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And writes up like a chain of custody thing, right, like a document form they call chain of custody.
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And the person that seizes it, writes their name, signs it and dates and times it.
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And then anyone else that handles that piece of evidence has to put their name on it.
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So you can go ahead and have the chain of evidence.
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And then as soon as it's seized, put in the bag, it's supposed to be put in the evidence room and held there until the case either hits trial or the case is done and 100% adjudicated.
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OK, so the fact that there were issues with the evidence and how it was held with the police obviously causes a lot of problems.
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OK, and this cell phone was admitted into evidence during the trial and was used right to convict them.
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And since it wasn't properly, you know, held on a chain of custody and it could have been tampered with, you know, there were some issues with, you know, voice memos being altered and everything else like that with dates being off.
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So this is something that should not have been admitted into evidence.
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I mean, in the United States, this would have been immediately removed as evidence.
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But for some weird reason, it came into evidence in Jamaica.
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Like, yeah, if it was up here, no way it would have been admitted.
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So, you know, because you've got to be spot on.
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How you you're the cop, you take the phone home, make a phone call and say, oh, it wasn't tampered.
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Like, hello, do you know the meaning of tampered evidence?
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And some of the people here in the chat are saying, you know, that it was definitely tampered with.
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And he proved it was tampered with in England recently.
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So, OK, so anyway, so we're going to go ahead and go to the phone lines here.
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You have anything you want to say, Dolphes, before I get into the bad boy?
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So, I mean, like I said, in the United States, this would have never flown.
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But again, this is this is just kind of what it is in other places, man.
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You know, a lot of people talk shit about the United States being corrupt and all this other stuff.
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Our rule of law is a lot stronger than a lot of these other countries.
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That's the reason why the United States is the world's reserve currency, man, because like it or not, you know, we're pretty damn good when it comes to dealing with corruption.
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I'll tell you guys this from a federal law enforcement standpoint.
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There's nothing more that the U.S. attorney's office likes to do than take down dirty cops and dirty politicians, bro.
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They love it because it's a huge press release.
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So, you know, going after corrupt officials in the United States is huge.
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I mean, you guys saw the episode that I did on Operation Shattered Shield, which was the biggest dirty police corruption takedown in New Orleans history.
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And that case, they spent millions of dollars to get that shit done back in the 90s, man.
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So they do go after corrupt police as much as people want to talk shit about the government.
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In the United States, it's a sexy thing to do, man.
01:27:10.440
And the U.S. attorney's office never turns down dirty law enforcement or dirty public servant cases.
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And my question is, like, you know, did you used to get, like, I don't know, like a high almost off of, like, touching crooks?
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I mean, I just derived a lot of, you know, fulfillment from doing big cases and, you know, piecing things together and everything else like that.
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And my other thing was, like, am I allowed to ask, like, a fresh and fit related, like, issue?
01:28:24.180
No, it wasn't in regards to, like, the little, like, Christina thing when she walked in front of the camera.
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I'm just going to keep it, you know, just about if I was going to keep it.
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I'm going to say it's probably one of the most corrupt systems.
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It's just like, you could call it similar to the Haitian system.
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They don't have as much power in the Indian laws and stuff like that.
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So everybody is just like, it's all about power and money.
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Everybody did the rules, the laws and stuff like that.
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And I personally believe that Vibes Cartel is tied to the case.
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And he probably wasn't at the scene at the time of murder.
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I probably didn't do it himself, but it's Vibes Cartel.
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Vibes Cartel is like the Bin Laden of Jamaica, you know, the Saddam Hussein.
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As you can see, he's in prison right now making millions of dollars on multiple music from back to back.
01:30:04.020
Well, I don't think he did it personally, but he's probably the one that called a shot.
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Because the voice note, even though they're going to say it's not his voice note, you know, it's somebody else.
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But he's basically saying the guy, Lizard, stole his shoes, which is the gun, you know, and the bullets and stuff like that.
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And then that's when it leads to Lizard being missing.
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But just because, like, so many holes in the case, you know, people are tampering with evidence.
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And it's just a whole bunch of, you know, in Jamaica, laws and rules don't apply.
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So I think that's where everything went downhill.
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But, hey, big up to Vibs Cartel, show it up to Fresh and Fit, and big up to Outfit again.
01:31:06.500
And, guys, if you want to cut the line and get on the show, go ahead and send a super channel with the last four digits of your phone.
01:31:11.240
And you'll cut the line and be able to get on faster if you guys want.
01:31:16.060
Because I can already see the phone lines are starting to blow up here a bit.
01:31:18.880
So if you want to jump in quicker, put the, send a super chat in, last four digits of your number, and I'll get you in.
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This, it was strictly a political move, I'm telling you, because...
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If you realize the only evidence they had was the voice notes and some text messages, because the reason why they did it is because Cartel had a lot of power and influence over Jamaica.
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He was basically exposing how corrupt the government was.
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So that's why they're, like, took him down, basically.
01:32:08.960
You want to go ahead and give your theory on what happened?
01:32:12.220
She actually said the same exact thing to me before the show, and I didn't want to say that early on.
01:32:17.760
But since now we're kind of done talking about it, Dollface, go ahead and give your take on it as far as what you think.
01:32:22.960
Like what the caller said, I did, I do believe that because he had so much power, like, he had to be incarcerated.
01:32:31.300
There was no way because the way how Jamaicans, in Jamaica, like, if you have the money, he has the money, the power and the respect.
01:32:38.480
So he could do a lot in Jamaica if he was not incarcerated, if you get what I mean.
01:32:47.840
And you were saying that they just needed to lock him up.
01:32:50.460
They were just trying to find a way to lock him up.
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If you look at it, Myron, there's not really much that the police have on him.
01:33:09.780
And then also the police tampered with the evidence.
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Basically, it's like a huge no one on you can't be doing that shit.
01:33:21.780
I mean, if this happened in the United States, that phone would have been thrown out and never admitted into evidence in the first place.
01:33:26.820
You know, the fact that the officer had the phone, took the phone home and actually used it for a fucking phone call.
01:33:48.280
So you still think that he committed the murder, however.
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Your thing is just that he, the evidence against him isn't strong enough to prove it.
01:34:00.860
I think he did it, but I think he did it, but the evidence just isn't enough.
01:34:10.780
So, I mean, clearly, you know, you're not that, you think he still did it, but you obviously, you don't think they actually had enough to convict him.
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We got some boots on the ground out there in Jamaica, so thank you so much for calling into the show.
01:34:30.620
John Doe goes, been waiting on that Snoop Dogg murder case, bro.
01:34:45.240
Like, that one is not going to be that sexy, guys.
01:34:48.600
It's a state murder case that he beat, so it's like, oh, whatever.
01:35:13.340
Um, there's a lot of, um, evidence that you guys didn't cover, but, um, the reason why
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he was convicted was because they had a witness that was actually at the scene.
01:35:26.800
Yeah, one of the guys, so, the guy that was at the scene, he said he, um, escaped because
01:35:34.120
when he ran outside, there was a dog that bit Vibes Carter.
01:35:39.380
When the dog bit him, he, um, jumped over the fence and ran away.
01:35:44.360
And, um, the hospital visit for Vibes Carter, when he, um, left to the hospital, it was because
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of a dog bite, so he could, um, corroborate all the evidence that was, um, presented.
01:35:59.840
So, he was one of the main reasons why he was convicted, because he was a star witness.
01:36:05.740
So, not really the phone or any of those things.
01:36:13.020
And they were attacking that witness in the appeal as well, um, saying they're not credible
01:36:17.460
or whatever, but okay, so it was, it was two witnesses, if I'm not mistaken, right?
01:36:22.900
Um, it was two, but, um, the main witness was actually at the scene.
01:36:27.800
He was one of the two people that, um, that, um, stole Vibes Carter's guns.
01:36:34.080
In the voice, no, he spoke about two people, right?
01:36:38.640
One of them, he escaped because they had him in a room and they were, like, torturing them
01:36:47.780
So, like, of the people that were charged, one of them, um, is called Madsus.
01:37:03.660
He's one of the, he, he has, um, other murders too.
01:37:08.360
So, people didn't, people think, like, Vibes Carter was, like, very innocent, but he was
01:37:14.760
operating in a gang in, um, Waterford, Portmore.
01:37:22.740
So, he is actually a known gang member, but because people, um, love them so much, like,
01:37:30.240
it's hard to paint them as, like, somebody bad or, but if you live in, like, Portmore,
01:37:44.080
But, um, yeah, so, he is, he is pretty much well known that he did it.
01:38:00.820
He just didn't return his, um, guns, so he had to die.
01:38:06.540
So, uh, uh, I guess, uh, if you're friends with Vibes Carter and you don't bring the guns
01:38:10.800
back, he, he's not, he doesn't like it when you don't, when he lends you guns and you
01:38:15.440
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, like, for every gun, that's a known rule.
01:38:20.760
Are, are, are, are guns hard to, to get in Jamaica?
01:38:24.760
Um, they're illegal and expensive because they have to be shipped.
01:38:39.260
You gotta be a politician or you gotta be rich.
01:38:45.040
Uh, well, thanks for calling into the show, man.
01:38:46.800
Uh, you know, it's great to get these different perspectives on it.
01:38:49.440
And we got a lot of people calling in from Jamaica, which is pretty cool.
01:38:59.100
Cause like I said before, this video was done for the people by the people as we can see people
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calling in and thank you for calling into the show, my friend.
01:39:06.700
If we got anyone else, uh, we got Michael Mestroke here.
01:39:08.520
Five bucks goes, um, I got basketball practice.
01:39:13.040
Yeah, man, go ahead and, you know, uh, go play some basketball, get in shape, my friend.
01:39:16.080
And thank you so much for, you know, supporting and modding and everything else like that.
01:39:19.100
Um, are there any other numbers that called in, uh, dog face or no, that super chatted in?
01:39:23.960
So we'll go back to the phone lines real quick here.
01:39:27.080
That way I can get as many people as the line on the line as possible.
01:39:29.400
I want people to be able to get their voice heard.
01:39:52.240
So I, I really think that, I don't think he did do it.
01:39:55.380
I'm just going based off of evidence to be quite honest, because that evidence tamper was,
01:40:00.480
That's like, that wouldn't fly here in America or in most like first world countries.
01:40:04.640
But you know, if, if, if, if it's in a corrupt, uh, Caribbean, like it's a little island, bro.
01:40:13.380
I, I mean, uh, you know, the evidence in itself is a problem, but again, like, uh, you
01:40:18.020
know, you got the testimony from those people, uh, but the phone was heavily relied upon.
01:40:22.200
So the fact that they admitted in it, you know, it is what it is, my friend.
01:40:27.840
One thing too, is that going based off of like, because my, you know, there's two, um, going
01:40:34.260
based off of testimonies from, from like, uh, bystanders that, that, that, that watch.
01:40:39.140
It's kind of hard to go based off of that, because if I'm not mistaken, that's like one
01:40:44.500
of the hardest evidence to use in, in a court case when it's like, uh, people who themselves
01:40:50.680
are watching it from afar because everybody has their own different, like, like, you know
01:40:55.240
how people feel nowadays, like, Oh, I feel like, and it'll, it'll be harder to, to prove.
01:41:08.140
Well, you got to remember, man, that not everyone is going to have as, as a, uh, much
01:41:11.800
of a refined court system as the United States, as much as people talk shit about the United
01:41:16.800
Um, it is still, you know, heads and shoulders above most other countries.
01:41:20.740
So, um, you know, and that this, I guess this is an example of it, you know, this probably
01:41:24.460
wouldn't have flown in the United States, but it is what it is.
01:41:26.880
Um, you know, if this case happened in the United States, he probably wouldn't have been
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Anything else, bro, before I move on to the next caller?
01:41:36.080
No, I was going to say, yo, is that really big over in Jamaica?
01:41:55.220
I know in Asian cultures, like in, um, in, in, in Oriental cultures, I know that they're
01:42:00.180
very big with bleaching because they want to look as pale and stuff like that.
01:42:04.780
But I didn't know that shit was happening with, um, with, uh, in Jamaica or shit.
01:42:22.640
Um, and then if anything else, adult face comes through, let me know.
01:42:47.400
I'm so, why would you ask him for a bike shirt?
01:43:18.640
We're going to go ahead and go back to eight, seven, six.
01:43:54.680
Oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, like, Vice Cartel, man, I really, I don't really have a, I don't
01:44:07.080
really, I would say, like, he'd do it 100%, but I would say, like, maybe, like, 60%.
01:44:15.160
But he do, you know, Fox 5 News, something like that?
01:44:21.520
I think they interviewed him while he was in the jail.
01:44:24.860
And he, yeah, he speak on the line, and he said, he's going to come out.
01:44:32.680
I watched a little bit of that interview, actually.
01:44:36.520
And if you, like, Dolphins know, like, most of his songs, most of his songs he sings about
01:44:44.640
criminality and all this thing, but he just sings the song for entertainment.
01:44:50.020
But I don't believe that he do what he's saying in the song.
01:44:53.440
I think he sings all topics, because he have gal songs, girl, he got songs for the gal, them,
01:45:04.420
So, if he going to talk about the gun man, them, you get what I'm saying?
01:45:10.720
He going to talk, he going to have songs for them.
01:45:12.760
He got songs that the girls that dash up, them have songs for them, too.
01:45:21.560
And the guy, Sean Stone Campbell, he's a part of the gods.
01:45:26.020
Like, he, he, he, he's, like, the guy's got the right hand.
01:45:39.080
Yeah, and remember, West Cartel got, got, got two sons, all the other sons that doing music
01:45:45.280
But, West Cartel left a big impact on Jamaica, where he actually sing a song to become a president
01:45:53.240
And a lot of people willing to vote for him to be a prime minister of Jamaica.
01:45:59.960
What's the name of the song so I can hear it after?
01:46:05.860
I think I heard, I think that, I heard about that one.
01:46:12.460
And another thing, he gets a lot of respect, like, that is why the government, as the color
01:46:17.380
said, the government willing to bring him down.
01:46:19.580
Because people respect him more than how they even respect the government.
01:46:25.200
They don't have the respect for the prime minister and all of them.
01:46:29.560
We got, thanks for calling, it's the show, my friend.
01:46:35.920
We got, uh, Yuri Oliveira here, uh, goes, um, do the 2021, the baby case using, uh, kill
01:46:42.060
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that was, yeah, the baby case.
01:46:46.720
We could possibly cover that one as well from the Walmart shootings, what are you talking
01:46:51.080
And here's the interview that, uh, they're talking about guys here real fast.
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Um, and I'll go ahead and share screen with y'all.
01:46:56.000
This interview right here with Fox five, it's five minutes.
01:47:02.720
Um, exclusive vibes cartel and the jailhouse interview.
01:47:09.980
That's right, the singer speaking out for the first time since being arrested 10 years
01:47:13.540
And the only one he's talking to is our Lisa Evers.
01:47:17.360
International dance hall superstar vibes call Adesia Palmin despite being locked down.
01:47:23.060
He's a charismatic entertainer whose nickname world boss hints at the respect he's given
01:47:28.840
He's a champion of the poor and a convicted murderer whose claim from day one he was framed.
01:47:34.260
His talent, drive, intelligence, and wicked wit have never been in question.
01:47:39.140
And now, yeah, like you guys can see, man, the people love him and he's like, oh, they
01:47:46.080
The only question is whether his last legal appeal to the highest court in the UK will
01:48:20.880
I was locked up in 2016 for murder and attempted murder with firearm.
01:48:24.120
Awaited trial for five years, facing life, declined plea deals, and went to jury trial.
01:48:27.740
May 2021, I was found not guilty on both counts.
01:48:40.640
He could be a free man by 2022 or an inmate for 30 or more years.
01:48:45.980
It's enough to send anyone into depression, but not Vibes Cartel.
01:48:53.840
As you look around the cell that you're in right now, can you describe for us what that looks like?
01:49:10.060
It's like a dungeon, but it's instead of being in the cellar, it's in the attic.
01:49:17.620
You say you're in a better place mentally than physically.
01:49:21.120
A lot of people would find that hard to believe.
01:49:23.940
Yeah, because I was sick for a few years, so definitely I'm recovering physically.
01:49:30.920
You hear the difference in the voice, on the voice note, in his voice now.
01:49:46.700
I don't know exactly what it was, but someone is going to know in the chat.
01:49:56.060
Because I know I'm innocent and I know I'm coming out.
01:50:01.320
And to be totally honest, the system really wanted me thrown away.
01:50:06.480
It was never about me being charged for a murder.
01:50:08.840
It was about getting rid of Fibes cartel, not Adija Palmer, the person.
01:50:20.220
If you remember when Movado and I had that little feud a few years ago, we even went to
01:50:26.940
King's House, which is like the home of the Prime Minister.
01:50:29.880
Guys, Graves disease, it's an immune system disorder of the butterfly-shaped gland and
01:50:39.420
The condition is more common in women under age 40.
01:50:46.560
And they were telling us that, oh, we're leading the kids astray.
01:50:50.160
And if we don't stop what we're doing, we're not going to get any permission to do shows
01:50:55.460
So it has always been about the influence that Vibes cartel has.
01:51:00.380
The dancehall music genre, like gangster rap, does not shy away from lyrics that talk about
01:51:09.900
No, I told you, like, that's where hip-hop originated from dancehall because they take,
01:51:22.060
They have, like, they call it gunman tune, like badman tune.
01:51:33.240
That's where the bop, bop, bop, bop comes from.
01:51:37.240
That's where the bus and the gun come from and all of that.
01:51:40.240
Remember, he grew up in the ghetto, so it's all about sex, drugs, and money, and all of
01:51:58.420
By all the chicks that they probably let it go in there and smash.
01:52:00.660
I'm more mentally in a better place because I read a lot, I write a lot, you know, I watch
01:52:05.700
movies, I listen to music, and I've met people here that are cool, like cool people that we
01:52:11.360
can talk about stuff, you know, good friends along the way.
01:52:17.240
You've had a lot of songs come out since you've been incarcerated.
01:52:20.240
About how many songs have you written during the last decade that you've been behind bars?
01:52:28.460
At one point, I was sending out like three, four books a month.
01:52:33.680
Because when I write the songs out, you know, I send the books out.
01:52:40.340
And I know all of them are not going to be able to get released.
01:52:45.720
But, you know, I just keep writing and writing.
01:52:49.420
Are you concerned that the conditions there are going to impact your health?
01:52:52.680
I'm basically just thinking about going home now because everything is drawn to a
01:52:57.260
So I'm not really worried about my health as much.
01:53:03.980
Looks like he's in good spirits, man, that he's going to get out.
01:53:10.480
Cartel's attorney, Isop Buchanan, filed a fresh evidence appeal based on the findings
01:53:15.260
of a British digital expert who found that his cell phone had been tampered with.
01:53:20.840
Prior to his trial, it's expected to go before the Privy Council, second only to Queen Elizabeth
01:53:28.760
God save the Queen because she's the only one that can save me now.
01:53:33.720
God save the Queen to the only one that can save me now.
01:53:38.260
So, yeah, they confirmed that his phone was, in fact, tampered with guys, which someone
01:53:56.000
I just want to say I've been listening to FNF for a good time, and I just want to tell
01:54:03.220
Seven, six, seven is an island on the Caribbean.
01:54:07.420
So we know about the culture and stuff like that.
01:54:09.840
So I'm just going to answer a few of your questions.
01:54:12.480
So modus cont is like saying somebody's more of a pussy, but it's not like always in a rude
01:54:20.500
We're like, hold on modus cont, some shit like that.
01:54:23.180
And then the weed is not legalized, but it's decriminalized.
01:54:27.920
So you're allowed to smoke and have a certain amount, but you cannot be like having too
01:54:37.460
And then the Jamaicans, they take a bit of the Asian culture.
01:54:44.640
That's why some of them, you'll hear their nickname is Chi or China or like Shenzi or Shenyang.
01:54:49.420
Like they get a lot of Asian culture and stuff like that.
01:55:05.480
If you guys could do me a huge sound and like the video, we're at 1.3K likes.
01:55:08.220
But if you guys could give me to 1,400, I'd really appreciate it.
01:55:19.260
So I just wanted to talk a little bit about the show with Bob's Cartel.
01:55:24.160
And I just think that the system, the whole legal system there in Jamaica is corrupt.
01:55:29.460
With not only with Bob's Cartel, but with Ninja Man.
01:55:33.040
Because if you review Ninja Man's case and Bob's Cartel's case, and you look at the evidence they have,
01:55:40.600
it just makes no sense whatsoever how you can give somebody that much time in jail.
01:55:55.180
Are the police really that fucked up in Jamaica?
01:56:03.340
And welcome to Mike Phillips becoming a new member.
01:56:07.440
I just, you know, I just feel, I mean, even if you did another show where you review kind
01:56:12.100
of like the legal system in Jamaica, that would be really interesting, too, just to show how
01:56:17.760
And so people can kind of get like more of an idea of how unfair the legal system is.
01:56:26.620
I feel, my personal opinion is I feel that somebody in the legal system was paid off to
01:56:33.820
put Ninja Man and Bob's Cartel behind bars because if you really look at their careers, Ninja Man
01:56:42.280
and Bob's Cartel are very, very popular in Jamaica.
01:56:48.240
You know, and the whole situation, which we were talking about earlier with the incident
01:56:53.300
between Bob's Cartel and Ninja Man, that basically started from a clash they had in Jamaica.
01:57:00.300
There's like a concert and they were versing each other.
01:57:10.140
And then Ninja Man said something and Vibes Cartel took a personal and then that's how
01:57:19.440
But then afterwards they made up and they became really cool.
01:57:24.480
But Vibes Cartel, before he got locked up, was doing a lot in Jamaica.
01:57:29.840
He had his own reality show going on over there.
01:57:37.860
So, appreciate you calling into the show, my friend.
01:57:45.240
Going to get you in and then we'll take a couple more calls and then we'll can a thing.
01:57:49.660
And like I said, man, this show is for y'all, man.
01:58:15.140
He didn't need to even kill anybody because he had people.
01:58:26.420
Because basically, me as a young and my friends, we see Vibes Cartel as like really up there.
01:58:35.500
Whatever he says, basically, everyone would do, follow.
01:58:45.360
And in Jamaica, it's really popular for the judges to get paid off.
01:58:50.780
And also, yeah, so, it happens a lot where the judges get paid off or the judges would, because I think in Jamaica, they give out things where a random person can be a judge, like for a day or something.
01:59:09.940
And that's putting people's life at risk, because if my mom becomes a judge and she, you know, prosecutes someone, then, you know, maybe those persons will come after her.
01:59:26.140
The system is messed up in Jamaica, but they just wanted Vibes Cartel off the street.
01:59:35.680
He was basically telling people in his songs everything what the government was doing bad.
01:59:43.960
I mean, you're not the first person to come with that conclusion.
02:00:05.420
And maybe, Steph, LOL, I'm down 30 in super chats.
02:00:08.440
And I had to change my name to super chat this question.
02:00:12.020
But like I said, it'd be tough to gather all those guys, man.
02:00:14.700
You got to understand that coordinating with guests and everyone's schedule aligning and everything else, it's a lot harder than it looks, guys.
02:00:20.800
You can only offer the venue, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to come every time, guys.
02:00:49.540
So like I grew up at the time when Vibes Cartoon was hot, man.
02:00:58.040
I'm not saying, I don't know if he actually did it, but he was probably involved.
02:01:43.320
They can't have him being so influential and not like try to take him down, you know.
02:01:47.620
So, even if he did it or not, it's impossible for them to just let him keep going because he's just too influential pretty much.
02:02:05.960
Because, honestly, I don't know much about Jamaican culture.
02:02:10.740
So, I didn't even know the difference between the two until Dolph Face explained it earlier.
02:02:16.200
Because y'all wouldn't have this episode without her.
02:02:18.260
And shout out to all my Jamaicans out there, man.
02:02:22.860
I learned a lot on this stream just from looking at the chat, listening to the interviews, listening to the evidence, just like you guys.
02:02:28.680
So, but that seems to be the general consensus is they wanted him locked up because he had too much goddamn power in Jamaica, which from looking at how much people love him and how much people, you know, are tuning in and people.
02:02:39.060
The amount of requests that I had for this case was crazy.
02:02:42.320
So, even though I'm not well-versed in Jamaican law, I say, you know what?
02:02:45.840
Let's cover it and give the people a little bit more insight as to this one, you know, and get y'all involved.
02:02:51.860
So, thank you for calling into the show, my friend.
02:03:06.380
I appreciate the content you're putting up because there's nobody on the internet doing what you're doing.
02:03:14.800
Can you do the Flores twins from Chicago that was working hand-to-hand with Juan or El Chapo?
02:03:32.220
They were El Chapo's right-hand man in Chicago.
02:03:36.920
They ended up right now and was probably a little bit of the reason why he got taken down because they were, like, right next door to him.
02:03:45.740
And then, Sam Hurd, he played for the Dallas Cowboys and the Chicago Bears.
02:03:52.160
And he got hit with a drug trafficking charge, right?
02:03:57.140
Yeah, he got caught with, like, 88 grand and his cousin sniffed on him.
02:04:03.240
I think it was DEA and my old agency, Homeland Security, that actually got him.
02:04:20.020
I'm almost certain it was Homeland Security Investigations that got him.
02:04:28.560
And it's crazy because I think when the feds come knocking on your door, before they get there, there's a few warnings that I think you should see.
02:04:42.860
So I could cover this case for y'all in the future.
02:04:46.720
Agents of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, HSI, ICE, HSI arrested Samuel George Hurd, 26, of Lake Forest, Illinois, last night on a criminal complaint filed in the Northern District of Texas.
02:04:59.180
So, yeah, I could definitely do this for y'all in the future.
02:05:10.500
The thing with El Chapo, and I'm looking it up right here, the thing with El Chapo was that there were so many different agencies that indicted him.
02:05:22.940
Yeah, but Chicago Twins Cooperation against Sinaloa Cartel U.
02:05:30.620
DEA, unparalleled corruption to drug enforcement.
02:05:37.640
And I tell you guys all the time how you can tell who the main agency was.
02:05:42.060
The investigation in Chicago has been led by the DEA, joined by the IRS CID.
02:05:47.940
You guys may not know this, but it was actually an HSI Title III that was able to first identify what El Chapo was.
02:05:55.860
You know, that's some exclusive info right there that people don't really know.
02:06:00.460
As you guys know, Title III is a wiretap intercept.
02:06:03.780
So, and I mean, that's public information now, but a lot of people didn't know that.
02:06:15.300
I'm definitely familiar with that one, because I remember when he got arrested, I was, yeah, I heard about that.
02:06:29.460
But I'm going to, we're all going to stay black.
02:06:35.420
We got 860 in the house right here, in my neck of the woods.
02:06:48.440
Yo, I hear I'm a guy called just now saying that you could have judged like any person could be a judge.
02:07:10.120
What happened is I was just trying to decore my voice.
02:07:19.640
The Vite Scout case is just corruption-ified corruption.
02:07:24.840
That guy has so much influence over the younger generation.
02:07:27.620
And the government tried to put a stop on what he was trying to do, right?
02:07:38.620
The way the process in the case, though, will show all the flaws of the system with such a big act of the country.
02:07:49.180
It does show you how messed up the system is in Jamaica and needed a change.
02:07:54.780
It's like in America in the 1960s and the 70s and the 80s before technology all had gone.
02:08:01.120
And, you know, so you always got corruption and all of that.
02:08:06.760
It's just that all of these kind of stuff is going to take a time to play out until we get up to power with technology concern.
02:08:14.740
And then we can't get rid of all these corrupt motherfuckers.
02:08:19.960
I just sit on the side with my popcorn eating watching this shit play out.
02:08:26.280
But whatever you guys doing regarding your guys' show, it's a beautiful thing, man.
02:08:32.400
I've seen a lot of little young fellas buffling outside here dealing with these girls, man.
02:08:39.360
If they want to be a whore, let them be a whore.
02:08:58.600
The girls are going to keep doing the shit that they're doing.
02:09:06.580
So men can learn that they're not going to change.
02:09:18.060
You sure will find a nice girl where you can kick it down with
02:09:20.860
and have your family with and live the rest of your life.
02:09:35.700
You say you got a hickey on your neck, you're slacking.
02:09:41.400
I don't know how you even noticed that, motherfucker.
02:09:55.760
Yeah, there's a pretty strong Jamaican population in Hartford.
02:10:06.940
This is why Americans need to travel as bad as it is here in America.
02:10:12.980
Go check him out, guys, on his podcast as well.
02:10:19.000
Regarding pale Asian skin and Jamaicans bleaching, it's a saddest thing.
02:10:21.500
Workers get tanned and rich owners stay in the office out of the sun.
02:10:30.440
I'm going to take you out three, and then I'm going to end it here.
02:10:35.080
All right, so I'll get you on the line before anyone else calls in.
02:11:11.660
What are the things that you're doing over here, man?
02:11:13.960
You know, I just want to add on to the whole point with the whole case, right?
02:11:18.360
The thing I find really interesting about it, especially since I'm from Trinidad myself.
02:11:22.220
The influence Vives Cartel had in Trinidad, it led to an uptick in crime where I'm from.
02:11:29.660
We had a place called La Vantelle in Trinidad, and it got so bad that the crime rate had,
02:11:34.240
like, triple in peak five cartel years, and then afterwards, it started going back down
02:11:42.700
The impact was, like, across the whole Caribbean.
02:11:47.560
It switched from, like, Calypso to more focused on Soca, and it became more dance halls,
02:11:51.640
and it even changed to be a genre bender between the two different things.
02:11:58.180
He definitely, you know, I mean, even fresh, like, you know, you know, rocks with the Vives
02:12:05.000
So, I mean, obviously, he's huge in the Caribbean in general, because that's, like, probably
02:12:08.560
the only episode of Fresh Gone Watch on Fed is that one.
02:12:11.560
Amy Love, two bucks, President of Haiti, will you cover it?
02:12:15.040
I'm trying to stay away from international cases unless, like, the people really ask for
02:12:28.260
Is that, like, a federal case or is it just a state?
02:12:35.300
Because he's a football player whose girl, I think, was trying to extort him for money,
02:12:41.080
then he tried to kill her, and the baby survived.
02:12:43.780
And I feel that it blends in FNF topics along with fetish stuff.
02:12:54.680
So it's R-A-Y and the last name is C-A-R-R-U-T-H, I think.
02:13:20.680
Anyone that makes fun of Chris is a friend of mine.
02:13:36.340
So I'm going to go ahead and can the – a couple other calls came in, but we got to get going here.
02:13:46.720
I hope you guys enjoyed that episode, man, on FEDA.
02:13:49.540
Anything you want to tell the other people, Dolphys, before we close out here?
02:13:55.200
You know, I – like you said, I'm not a real yardie.
02:14:14.560
I think he was – even if whatever happened – I mean, street is street crime, whatever.
02:14:29.980
They can find me on Instagram, Dolphys, duh, D-U-H.
02:14:42.980
Go check her out and send a dick pic on Instagram.
02:14:49.480
Are there any recent corrupt fed cases you can cover?
02:14:52.820
I'm going to be releasing the Hanson one, which was the biggest intel leak in U.S. history.
02:15:02.220
And then I'm going to put it as a premiere for you guys so that YouTube doesn't take it down.
02:15:05.900
Because when I first uploaded it, we had issues with it, again, taking down and shit like that.
02:15:10.560
Got everything cleared with copyright, all the other stuff.
02:15:17.080
But anyway, guys, we're going to go ahead and give you all a couple of episodes tomorrow, Money Mondays.
02:15:21.200
We're going to have my accountant, Steve, from Accounting in the House.
02:15:23.760
And I might have a special interview for you guys tomorrow afternoon as well with a special guest that's in town here in Miami.
02:15:29.200
But other than that, guys, I'm going to go ahead and leave you guys with one of the new outros that we got here.
02:15:36.000
And I appreciate all the love and support that you guys have been giving on the show, man.
02:15:42.780
But other than that, man, we'll catch you guys tomorrow on Fresh and Fit.
02:15:47.060
Check out Dollface on Dollface Duh on Instagram.
02:15:54.440
I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations.
02:15:57.660
The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
02:16:00.760
The sheriff is an official in a county or independent city responsible for kidnapping guys.