The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Nick Fuentes vs Piers Morgan LIVE

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00:02:22.000 is that when you go into these major cities like New York or Chicago, I believe she was in North

00:02:26.740 Carolina, there is a menace, which is young black adolescent men. They're extremely violent. And we

00:02:34.480 have been told that we have to pretend like they are every other person. We have to be colorblind

00:02:39.940 to that. And we're supposed to go and be in the midst of all this danger. And I think that at this

00:02:46.600 point, it's gotten out of control. You look at the BLM movement, they said that the reason that

00:02:51.200 black people are violent or the reason there's crime is because of police brutality,

00:02:56.780 the redlining or all these other things. They said, we need to get rid of the police. We need to

00:03:00.560 defund them. And a lot of cities did. A lot of cities like Chicago, for example, the police

00:03:05.280 changed the rules of engagement. They don't chase them. It's not a felony. If you steal a certain

00:03:09.500 amount of merchandise, they won't chase them on foot. And now the city's totally up for grabs.

00:03:13.760 And now whether you're in the Gold Coast or whether you're on the Mag Mile or you're in the worst

00:03:17.920 neighborhoods in the city, you might get shot. You might get mugged. Someone might run up on you.

00:03:22.960 And I tell my followers, it is better to be. Here we are, boys. Let's do it.

00:03:27.320 He perceived as racist, racist, the other way and maybe keep your life than to say, I'm a good

00:03:34.700 anti-racist. I don't mind that this person's making me uncomfortable. Maybe he's looking a

00:03:39.320 little froggy. I'm going to sit down because I'm a good person and get stabbed, mugged, whatever.

00:03:44.060 And by the way, this is a strategy. They call it the friendly stranger. There's a crew of them.

00:03:49.060 They do this in Chicago. They stand outside bars, black people. They approach strangers. It's a

00:03:54.040 robbery crew. And they pretend to be a friendly stranger. And then they mug them. And stupid white

00:03:58.800 people say, oh, hi. Yeah. Nice to meet you. You know, they grin, they laugh, they put up with the

00:04:04.200 nonsense and then they get mugged or worse. Sometimes they get executed. And so as a white person.

00:04:09.340 How do you feel about mass shootings at school? I think they're bad. Who do you think commits

00:04:16.040 the vast majority of the mass shootings? I'm sure it's white people.

00:04:20.460 Right. So how do you feel about that?

00:04:24.520 I think that white people do more anti-social violence. I think black people participate in

00:04:30.080 more gang violence. I think that's the difference. What's the difference to the victims?

00:04:33.440 There's no difference to the victim, but it's a different kind of crime. And it's a different

00:04:39.140 proportion also. Do you know what percentage of white people are school shooters?

00:04:44.140 I know that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools in America this century were perpetrated

00:04:51.100 by young white men. And what proportion of proportion?

00:04:55.140 I'm curious. I'm curious. I'm curious. I'm curious whether your advice would be to people

00:05:01.060 who have kids in these schools. Wait, is my mic working?

00:05:03.280 Should they, should they, should they, should they avoid, should they avoid white people at school?

00:05:11.220 Should people with the kids at school avoid young white men at school?

00:05:16.260 No. Okay.

00:05:17.180 Do you know, do you know what per capita means? Do you know proportionality? There are more

00:05:21.020 black people proportionally that engage in violent crime or involved in gangs, especially in these

00:05:26.960 major cities than there are white people that are school shooters compared to the entire white

00:05:32.020 population. And everybody understands that. Two, two thirds of mass shootings at school

00:05:37.520 perpetrated by white people. But what proportion of white men commit school shootings? That's the

00:05:43.360 question. I've just told you it's 60 to 65%. You're telling me what proportion of school shootings

00:05:49.860 are committed by white people. I'm saying what proportion of white people have committed school

00:05:54.020 shootings? Are you playing dumb or are you just not that smart? What difference does that make to the

00:05:57.960 children lying dead on the ground? See, now you want to jump on the victims. The difference is

00:06:03.560 you're asking, would you fear white people or black people? And that's the difference.

00:06:09.800 No, I'm not. What I'm saying to you is by your, by your logic, if, if we now have agreed

00:06:15.880 that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools are committed by white people and predominantly

00:06:22.200 young white men, then presumably your advice would be to avoid young white men because they

00:06:29.500 perpetrate these massacres. But it won't be because they're white, right?

00:06:33.180 So, so are you playing dumb? Are you actually dumb? You are, you are because you're, well,

00:06:40.480 I don't think you're smart actually, but you're deliberately avoiding and everybody knows that's

00:06:46.640 the difference. What proportion of white men are school shooters? It's probably 0.00001%. What

00:06:54.660 proportion of black men have committed violent crimes? It's probably like 5%. I guess, I don't know

00:07:00.660 what it is off the top of my head, but it's very high. And I would add to that, even as it concerns

00:07:04.500 schools, why do you think parents pay a super high property tax to live in a school district where

00:07:11.060 there's white people? Because they know that if they go to the black school, it's going to be the

00:07:15.360 bloods in the crypts. It's going to be gangs. It's going to be around the blocks. You can't relax,

00:07:20.500 baby. He talks about all the school shootings that are committed by gangbangers in and around the

00:07:25.780 school and all the other violence that's associated with that. I mean, these, these schools in the

00:07:29.940 south side of Chicago, you know, it's just not. I have an answer for you, Nick. So the proportion

00:07:36.220 of the population who carry out mass shootings is actually the same for black and white. For

00:07:43.420 white people, the proportion of, no. The proportion of the population. Again, are you hearing it? No,

00:07:48.600 no. What's the proportion? I think the trouble with your statistics is a lot of them don't bear much

00:07:52.200 scrutiny. We have a bunch of fact checkers checking all this in real time because you do have a

00:07:56.880 tendency to just come out with a little baloney. And when you say, you know, okay, well, it's true.

00:08:02.720 And when you're confronted with reality, you don't like it. What's the figure? What proportion

00:08:09.300 of white people have committed school shootings with white people as the denominator and white

00:08:14.900 people that have committed school shootings as the numerator? What's that? Black and whites,

00:08:19.680 the proportion of the population who carry out mass shootings generally is about the same.

00:08:25.520 No, no. Tell me the number. And then, and then, what is... And yet, your only, the only focus of your

00:08:32.240 attention is the black shootings, the black crime. You don't want to live around black people. You want

00:08:40.080 to avoid black people. You don't want interracial marriages or relationships that may produce

00:08:46.060 black people. And yet, when I point out to you that there are many parts of crime in America

00:08:51.760 where actually there's a majority of white people that perpetrate them, you don't care.

00:08:56.860 You don't have any interest in them. It doesn't exercise your mind. Maybe because you don't...

00:09:01.340 No, see, no one's buying this. Maybe because you don't have kids.

00:09:02.780 This argument lost. No one is buying this. Everybody understands per capita. And people could

00:09:07.720 even see what you're... You race ahead and say, well, we're comparing the proportion of

00:09:11.820 white and black school shooters. I said, no, no. Compare the proportion of school shooters that

00:09:16.240 are white versus violent criminals that are black. Because that was the basis of the monologue,

00:09:20.520 is that you're very likely, if you encounter black people or a young black man in the city,

00:09:25.320 that you're going to be the victim of a violent crime, of a robbery, a mugging, a car theft,

00:09:31.020 a carjacking, or a murder. That's the difference. And it's about proportionality. And everybody sees

00:09:36.340 past that because we all live in reality. You want to talk about product of your environment.

00:09:40.640 People that live in New York, Chicago, LA, we live in reality. We live in this environment.

00:09:46.580 We see what it's like. And the threat, the danger in terms of probability is not... It's not even

00:09:53.180 comparable. And I would add, I would say this to your point. If you're in a high school and you...

00:09:59.620 And truly, if you see a white person who looks like a little autistic, he's got the SSRI stare,

00:10:05.620 and he reaches for a backpack, people often say, run. Similarly, if you see a jalopy pulling up

00:10:12.460 with a bunch of black people in it, and they got their pants around the ankles, you're going to run

00:10:16.660 also. And I'm saying the same thing. The difference is, the latter happens much more often. It's much

00:10:22.620 more common. You know, in Chicago, there's like 10,000 carjackings and car thefts every day. It's in

00:10:29.600 the thousands. It happens all the time. How many mass shootings committed by autistic SSRI white

00:10:36.600 people? I don't even know. I mean, it's probably in the single digits in the last decade in this

00:10:41.280 city. That's the difference. And everybody knows that. But you're really just trying to carry water

00:10:46.000 for liberal ideology. It's an ideological position. No, no, I'm not. No, I'm really not. I can

00:10:50.940 absolutely say, yes, there is way too much black on black crime, for example, involving guns in

00:10:57.760 Chicago. And black on white, also. Yes, but there is way too much gun violence in Chicago,

00:11:02.740 right? I mean, it's... Yeah. It's indisputable. I've got no problem saying that. The difference is,

00:11:07.720 I don't then lead myself into a thought process where I have to avoid all black people in case they

00:11:13.640 shoot me. And you've already conceded that you are a racist. So when people hear you then say,

00:11:19.860 I don't want to be living anywhere near black... Racist. Gotcha, bitch. They already have heard you

00:11:24.680 say, I'm a racist. So they assume you're doing that because of people's skin color. I don't think

00:11:29.500 you would probably dispute that, right? Well, you're separating two different things. The monologue

00:11:35.440 when I said, I don't want to live around black people, that was after Irina Zorutska got shot. And it's

00:11:40.340 true. I mean, they are a largely, in this city, in Chicago, the south side, the west side,

00:11:46.720 huge criminal population. And I don't want to live anywhere near it. And I do. I want to live

00:11:52.300 in a white neighborhood. I think that that's extremely desirable. And I think even black

00:11:56.900 people do. Again, Nick, you're perfectly entitled to that view. But when you have obviously prefaced

00:12:01.920 all this by saying, I am a racist, unashamedly, then people will assume that all your thought

00:12:07.700 processes about all of these issues are driven by an aversion to people based on their skin color,

00:12:12.840 which is the purest personification of racism. Well, it's not an aversion. I would say it's the

00:12:20.040 opposite. I like my own people. My own people are familiar to me. And I think that's true across the

00:12:27.480 board. I think that people seek out other people that are like themselves. And every other group

00:12:32.460 does this, whether it's blacks, Hispanics, Asians. You know, I get a lot of attacks when I talk about

00:12:37.960 that I'm against interracial marriage. And what's funny is that every other group is against

00:12:43.480 interracial or interethnic marriage. Jews, Chinese, black people, Hispanics.

00:12:47.400 But you're the product of an interracial marriage.

00:12:51.020 Yeah. I mean, that's debatable.

00:12:53.200 Not really.

00:12:53.760 For the sake of argument, sure.

00:12:54.840 No, no. You're the product of an interracial marriage. And your father

00:12:58.220 is part Mexican. You're literally the very person you've just told me you want to avoid.

00:13:05.780 What race is Hispanic? Is that a race?

00:13:09.140 Well, what do you think it is?

00:13:11.280 I'm asking you. What race is Hispanic?

00:13:14.380 Hispanic. Of course it's a race. It's called Hispanic.

00:13:18.120 It's a mix between two races. It's a mix between Indigenous Americans and Europeans.

00:13:22.020 It's not white, though, is it? It's not white.

00:13:23.920 Well, apparently, you're more of a racial purist than me.

00:13:27.660 You've got like a one-drop little thing going.

00:13:28.240 Not really. You just keep saying you only want to live in a white neighborhood,

00:13:30.840 but you're literally from a mixed-race background yourself.

00:13:35.140 You've literally got Mexican blood.

00:13:37.660 I know. And I live in a non-white neighborhood, too.

00:13:40.060 I'm trying to get out of here, though.

00:13:41.640 But I'm trying to get out. But here's the thing.

00:13:43.940 Do you have any non-white friends? Genuine question.

00:13:47.720 Most of my friends are non-white. Most of my friends are non-white.

00:13:50.640 And non-white people love my show because they respect the honesty.

00:13:54.280 How many of your friends are black?

00:13:56.560 Many of them. Like, at least a dozen.

00:13:58.660 Wow.

00:13:59.200 Yay being one who you know.

00:14:01.580 Sneeko being another who you also know.

00:14:03.600 Yeah. So how do they feel when you say you just want to be away from any black people,

00:14:09.100 walk away from them?

00:14:10.860 Well, you know what Ye told me? I'll tell you verbatim what he said.

00:14:15.820 He said, so you use the N-word. I said, yeah.

00:14:18.560 He goes, well, when niggas are being niggas.

00:14:20.700 I said, so true. That's so true.

00:14:24.340 So they feel like they're in complete agreement with me.

00:14:27.160 What does that mean?

00:14:27.720 It means that even black people know how black people can behave. Even black people understand

00:14:33.000 it. And they know that it doesn't come from a place of, and you use the word aversion. That's

00:14:37.400 the first thing I'll actually dispute. It's not an aversion on the basis of skin color,

00:14:43.440 because that would seem to suggest it's like a stubborn, irrational bigotry. I don't consider

00:14:48.840 myself a bigot. I consider myself a racial realist. I'm realistic about how the races are,

00:14:54.060 and I speak provocatively about it. And I speak provocatively about our tribalistic

00:14:58.820 instincts and tendencies as human beings. And I'm not a liberal ideologue that says that over

00:15:03.860 time and with enough education, we're all going to see this great brotherhood where we're colorblind

00:15:10.200 and everybody's the same. I don't think that's ever going away. I think that race is real.

00:15:14.680 It's not just skin deep. It matters to us, and it matters to each other. And black people know that,

00:15:21.340 and Hispanics know that, and Asians know that, and people like me that have partial Mexican

00:15:26.120 ancestry. We know that too. And I think on that basis, we can have mutual respect and understanding,

00:15:32.180 not aversion based on skin color, as you said. The reason I use the word aversion is you literally

00:15:36.920 said that you should walk the other way if you see black people. That is an aversion to black people

00:15:43.340 based on their skin color. No, no. No, that's called economy of information. That's economy of

00:15:48.880 information. That's safety. And I feel, I said in the same monologue, if you watch it, it's like,

00:15:54.180 I feel sorry. The problem is you clip the 10 seconds. I don't know if you watch the whole show,

00:15:58.680 but in that monologue, I said, most black people are not violent or criminals. I said,

00:16:03.840 and it's unfortunate that we're going to offend them when we turn and walk the other way. I said,

00:16:09.020 but the problem is we don't know. We can't tell. And someone like Irina Zarutska,

00:16:14.080 she sat down in front of a black man with her headphones in and wasn't paying attention because

00:16:19.120 she was being a good liberal and said, I'm not uncomfortable by this. I'm progressive.

00:16:24.380 Then she got stabbed in the neck. And I said, it's unfortunate that you, you would have to sit

00:16:29.380 behind the black man to be safe. And if he's not violent or schizophrenic, he might be offended by

00:16:36.220 that. I said, but I would rather offend him than die. How many deranged white men have committed

00:16:43.020 atrocious acts of murder in the last 10 years in America? Proportionally far fewer.

00:16:49.200 How many? Do you know how many? You have a research team. You pull it up. I don't have it in front of

00:16:54.080 me. You're obviously extremely exercised by that one story, which was horrific for the record,

00:16:59.740 absolutely horrific and should never have happened. The person who perpetrated that evil act had a

00:17:06.400 string of previous offenses and should have been picked up more and it should have been

00:17:10.200 amplified more. I completely concur with all of that, but I don't, I just suspect you have no idea

00:17:15.560 how many white people have committed similar crimes, do you?

00:17:20.540 No, because I know it's far fewer from experience because it's like you said, well, and hang on. And I

00:17:26.160 would add to that, you know, Irena Zarutska wasn't the first one. That was also after Austin Metcalfe was

00:17:32.360 killed in Texas. Sure. After Carmelo Anthony stabbed him in the neck. But how many times has it been

00:17:35.300 perpetrated by white people? Well, hang on, let me finish my point. But you're implying that white

00:17:39.960 people don't do this. And my point to you, Nick Fulentis, is of course, of course. Oh, I never said

00:17:45.060 white people don't do it. Of course, deranged white people commit heinous acts. But you don't either know.

00:17:50.240 No disagreement. You either, you neither know nor care, or maybe both. Maybe you do know,

00:17:54.600 but don't care. You only seem to be focused on black people who commit crimes. And again,

00:18:01.000 if you hadn't prefaced the whole debate about racism by openly conceding you are a racist,

00:18:07.580 I could read other connotations into what you've been saying. But once you've said,

00:18:12.700 I'm a racist, and then you only talk about black crime, I think people can watch this and they

00:18:18.780 can say, yeah, he is. He's a racist. And everything that he says about crime is driven

00:18:25.080 through the prism of being a racist who judges people according to their skin color.

00:18:30.880 Well, it's funny, because it's quite on the contrary. And I said this in a similar monologue.

00:18:36.180 You know, the problem is not that I wake up and I walk down the street and I see someone that doesn't

00:18:40.640 look like me and it makes me angry. The problem is there's a pattern of behavior,

00:18:44.720 behavior, which we've all seen. Blacks in America have become narcissistic and they become narcissistic

00:18:51.300 because they've been told they're victims of racism, they're victims of slavery. They've been

00:18:55.640 told, really, there's no accountability. If they're rude, if they're inconsiderate, if they're criminal,

00:19:00.820 they are told that they have no agency for their actions. They're being told, if you act in this way,

00:19:05.720 it's because the white man made you that way. It's because the system's rigged against you.

00:19:09.220 And so we have been telling black people this for a generation, and now there's no rules. Now they go

00:19:14.280 and what we hate to see as decent people, not even as white people, but decent people, even black

00:19:20.160 people too, what we hate to see is rudeness, obnoxiousness, inconsideration, criminality,

00:19:27.260 violence. And that's that pattern of behavior that we see all over social media.

00:19:32.160 So just to be clear, you don't like black people who play the victim and are rude. Is that your

00:19:39.440 position? I don't like that pattern of behavior.

00:19:43.000 And who are narcissists?

00:19:45.600 I see where this is going. What the hell?

00:19:47.720 Yeah, you're ahead of me. You're ahead of me, aren't you? Because when I said,

00:19:51.000 what black friends have you got? You said, yay.

00:19:53.320 I am kind of black, aren't I?

00:19:55.600 No, not that. I'm not saying you. I'm just saying your choice of black friend is yay,

00:20:01.040 who is arguably the number one black victimhood narcissist in America. Do you understand the

00:20:09.120 problem? So he's your, he's your friend. He's one of the very few black people you want to be

00:20:14.460 associated with.

00:20:14.880 Pierce just hates yay.

00:20:16.140 But he's the epitome of what you just said.

00:20:17.940 Because he walked out on him.

00:20:18.940 You were four about narcissistic black people.

00:20:22.000 I disagree. I disagree with you. And I'll tell you why. Because yay, if you've ever met him in

00:20:27.160 real life, I have. Yeah. Okay. Well then, you know, he's walked out his interview.

00:20:32.600 Consider it. I'm still mad about that. The last two times I interviewed him, he's a supreme,

00:20:36.640 he's a supreme narcissist. And he's also interrupting me. You're very rude. Are you?

00:20:41.020 Are you black? Because you're being rude by interrupting me right now to you. I'm,

00:20:45.220 I'm giving you a hard time, but I, I do want to finish my point. I do want to finish my point

00:20:50.240 about yay. He is a guy who, when I was with him, wanted to make sure that everybody was heard.

00:20:55.700 Everybody felt included. He's actually a very soft-spoken guy, very polite. And by the way,

00:21:00.900 not violent. When you look at all the rappers that are in the music game, many of them,

00:21:05.420 especially from Chicago, drill rap, they're talking about killing people, shooting people,

00:21:10.240 they gangbang. He notably, if you know about him, he got his start because he was a nerd. He wore a

00:21:15.800 backpack and a polo and he wasn't a gangbanger. He rapped about his feelings and girls and his dreams

00:21:21.680 and his ambitions. No. And by the way, he would tell me all the time, he doesn't even feel black.

00:21:27.960 They make him feel not black because he doesn't do those things because he's soft-spoken, because

00:21:33.320 he's artistic, because he's a bit of a nerd or likes fashion. So I would disagree. He's,

00:21:38.680 he's actually not like that at all. Okay. He's also, he's also a Hitler loving anti-Semma.

00:21:44.680 And we're going to take a little commercial break here. I knew that was coming.

00:21:47.840 We're going to come back about, we're going to talk about anti-Semma. I knew that was coming.

00:21:51.040 And your views about Jewish people and indeed what you said about the same subject matter.

00:21:57.320 Bruh. Yo. Angel Studios are- Yo, that was fucking comedy. Chat, welcome to the fucking stream, bro.

00:22:05.880 Well, we have him shilling for some coins right now. Might as well, like, yo, I saw they were live.

00:22:10.100 If I said, fuck it, let's go live. I haven't slept yet, but we're here. You guys are going to get the

00:22:14.660 best commentary on this shit on the fucking internet. There's no one else that's going to

00:22:19.660 keep it more raw, but this is fucking comedy. I ain't going to lie. Guys, get your chats in now so I

00:22:24.960 can read them. Even conscious and aware black people don't want to live around black people

00:22:30.020 from Milo and Frank W early stream. Got you guys. No one is colorblind when it comes to black and white.

00:22:36.720 Martin, your mic level is very high and sound saturated. I'm not sure. Yeah. I had to turn

00:22:40.080 it up to get around the other stuff, but it should be good now. Tell me, give me one's

00:22:42.860 in the chat that Mike is good now. Guys, so just recap real quick for you guys.

00:22:47.880 While Pierce does his infomercial here. This kind of started with Pierce making an accusation

00:22:54.240 that implied that Nick's dad was racist. That's where the problems began.

00:23:00.920 Hate all Jews. Is that correct? That's your position?

00:23:04.940 Yes. Okay. So I want to play you this clip.

00:23:07.740 Well, I don't hate any Jews. Let me just amend

00:23:10.520 that. I don't hate any Jews. Okay. Okay. Let's play this clip.

00:23:14.720 The reason I've had it is because

00:23:16.620 my opposition to world

00:23:19.360 Jewry and Israel is rooted

00:23:21.600 in absolute, uncontestable

00:23:23.860 fact.

00:23:26.020 We have the truth on

00:23:27.660 our side. That's why we're

00:23:29.560 winning. Because we are telling

00:23:31.600 the truth about the historical

00:23:33.540 antagonism between Jews

00:23:35.740 and Europeans, between Jews

00:23:37.760 and Christians.

00:23:39.520 The theological,

00:23:41.480 historical,

00:23:42.760 racial,

00:23:43.660 cultural,

00:23:44.240 and political

00:23:44.860 antagonisms

00:23:45.960 between organized

00:23:47.400 Jewry

00:23:48.020 and the Christians.

00:23:50.720 Organized Jewry

00:23:51.880 and

00:23:52.520 Europeans.

00:23:54.520 And the reason that we are winning that argument

00:23:57.520 is because

00:23:58.200 it's real.

00:23:59.260 It's true.

00:24:00.340 I can prove it.

00:24:01.500 I can show you.

00:24:02.440 I can name the names.

00:24:04.580 I can show you

00:24:05.600 the paper trail,

00:24:07.080 the money.

00:24:08.260 That is why

00:24:09.400 we're winning.

00:24:10.280 That is why

00:24:11.000 all of this

00:24:11.920 is raising the consciousness.

00:24:15.120 Peer's about to get cooked.

00:24:16.420 You have this opposition

00:24:17.440 to world Jewry.

00:24:20.060 I mean,

00:24:20.340 it's one thing to criticize,

00:24:21.400 for example,

00:24:21.880 the Israeli government

00:24:22.820 over what it's been doing in Gaza.

00:24:24.180 I've done that myself.

00:24:25.320 When you talk about

00:24:26.220 world Jewry,

00:24:27.540 I presume you're talking about

00:24:28.720 the 15 million Jews

00:24:30.560 in the world,

00:24:31.480 and you are opposed to them.

00:24:33.360 How does that square

00:24:34.300 with your position

00:24:35.120 that you don't hate any Jews?

00:24:38.080 Well,

00:24:38.660 do you take issue

00:24:39.600 with my use of the term

00:24:40.640 world Jewry?

00:24:41.920 What do you mean by that?

00:24:45.000 Do you take issue with it?

00:24:46.300 Do you have a problem with that?

00:24:47.500 Clarify what you mean by it.

00:24:50.080 Well,

00:24:50.600 it's funny you bring that up.

00:24:52.200 The gaslighting's crazy

00:24:53.660 because

00:24:54.140 I use that expression

00:24:55.560 on my show all the time.

00:24:56.820 I say organized Jewry,

00:24:58.080 world Jewry,

00:24:58.760 and

00:24:59.620 do you know

00:25:00.620 that for like

00:25:01.400 30 years

00:25:02.580 the World Jewish Congress

00:25:04.820 has an annual keynote

00:25:06.980 called

00:25:07.880 the State of World Jewry?

00:25:10.320 Barry Weiss has given it.

00:25:12.260 You can look it up.

00:25:12.900 It's on YouTube.

00:25:13.520 She gives

00:25:13.900 the State of World Jewry

00:25:16.440 a glass.

00:25:17.300 But Nick,

00:25:17.640 what do you mean by it?

00:25:19.680 I mean,

00:25:20.460 you have to talk about,

00:25:21.920 you know,

00:25:22.120 there's a concept

00:25:22.760 of Jewish peoplehood.

00:25:24.280 It's the sense that

00:25:25.560 they are part

00:25:26.920 of a common nationality,

00:25:28.580 a common tribe,

00:25:29.620 a common people.

00:25:30.760 And so where they reside

00:25:32.340 in Israel,

00:25:32.960 the United States,

00:25:33.720 or Europe,

00:25:34.420 or elsewhere,

00:25:35.360 they see each other

00:25:36.720 above

00:25:38.000 or maybe

00:25:39.120 on a different level

00:25:40.200 alongside

00:25:41.180 their

00:25:41.960 nationality,

00:25:44.860 their,

00:25:45.360 you know,

00:25:46.180 their state,

00:25:46.720 wherever they reside.

00:25:47.580 If they're in Germany,

00:25:48.340 France,

00:25:48.640 the United States,

00:25:49.200 they see themselves

00:25:49.900 as part of a

00:25:50.780 transnational nation,

00:25:52.540 of an international nation.

00:25:54.380 The Jews in America,

00:25:55.520 the Jews in Israel,

00:25:56.800 they identify as Israeli

00:25:58.640 or American,

00:25:59.520 but they also have

00:26:00.140 something in common.

00:26:01.680 They identify as part

00:26:02.460 of a common nation,

00:26:03.540 which I would say

00:26:04.480 there's a world

00:26:05.160 Jewish population.

00:26:06.200 It's world Jewry.

00:26:07.360 And world Jewry

00:26:08.940 has representatives.

00:26:11.000 There is such a thing

00:26:12.040 as the World Jewish Congress

00:26:13.460 where they actually elect,

00:26:15.500 it's democratic,

00:26:16.840 all the local Jewish

00:26:17.960 organizations elect

00:26:19.060 representatives

00:26:19.760 to represent

00:26:21.400 proportionally

00:26:22.360 the Jewish population

00:26:23.500 in their area

00:26:24.520 at the World Jewish Congress.

00:26:26.200 And it's sort of like Davos.

00:26:27.640 It's like the

00:26:28.280 World Economic Forum,

00:26:29.620 but it's exclusively

00:26:30.580 for members

00:26:31.240 of the Jewish nation

00:26:32.400 that exists across the world.

00:26:34.040 And so,

00:26:35.080 that's a real thing.

00:26:36.640 And I didn't make that up

00:26:37.900 and that didn't come

00:26:38.560 from 4chan.

00:26:39.620 It's like I said

00:26:40.300 in that clip,

00:26:41.220 I read what they write.

00:26:43.400 I read their books.

00:26:44.200 I watch these speeches.

00:26:45.640 I watch the speech

00:26:46.300 from Barry Weiss.

00:26:47.280 I pay very close attention.

00:26:48.640 So that's what I mean

00:26:49.340 by that.

00:26:49.820 There is such a thing

00:26:50.680 as it's a nation

00:26:52.060 that exists across borders

00:26:54.160 on a global scale.

00:26:55.660 They're organized

00:26:56.520 and they have

00:26:57.720 a national self-interest

00:26:59.600 as that nation,

00:27:01.100 as that tribe.

00:27:02.540 So if you don't hate any Jews,

00:27:04.160 what do you like about them?

00:27:06.280 I like a lot of things about them.

00:27:07.860 I think they're funny.

00:27:08.740 I think they're smart.

00:27:10.740 I think that they're

00:27:12.120 pretty remarkable people.

00:27:13.720 And as Christians,

00:27:15.360 especially as Catholics,

00:27:16.700 we say they're remarkable.

00:27:17.900 And this has been adjudicated

00:27:20.520 in Catholic doctrine

00:27:22.360 for thousands of years.

00:27:24.120 We say that they're

00:27:24.720 a witness people.

00:27:26.000 And so we actually,

00:27:27.040 you know,

00:27:27.240 there's provisions

00:27:27.840 inside of Catholic doctrine

00:27:29.340 that says we need to give them

00:27:30.360 special protections

00:27:31.340 because they were a witness

00:27:32.620 to Christ's passion.

00:27:33.840 So, you know,

00:27:35.160 this is why you can't

00:27:36.220 clip the show.

00:27:36.800 You have to watch

00:27:37.320 the whole thing.

00:27:38.020 I say this repeatedly

00:27:38.940 in interviews.

00:27:40.180 I do think they're remarkable.

00:27:41.960 By definition,

00:27:42.700 they're exceptional people.

00:27:43.860 It's just that there is

00:27:45.460 there is a sort of natural

00:27:47.840 opposition between them

00:27:49.920 and Christians

00:27:50.460 because of the theology.

00:27:52.180 We believe that Christ

00:27:53.500 is a Messiah.

00:27:55.100 They don't.

00:27:56.260 They have been a minority

00:27:58.160 in Christian lands

00:27:59.260 for thousands of years.

00:28:00.420 And they have been

00:28:01.280 pushed around

00:28:02.040 and expelled

00:28:03.080 and they've been persecuted

00:28:04.240 and segregated.

00:28:05.420 And that's why

00:28:06.400 there's a lot of paranoia.

00:28:08.080 There's a lot of distrust.

00:28:10.860 There's maybe some sense

00:28:12.040 of chauvinism

00:28:12.860 among Jewish people.

00:28:14.740 So there is,

00:28:15.920 like I said in that clip,

00:28:17.120 there is an historical

00:28:18.140 antagonism

00:28:18.940 between these two peoples,

00:28:20.380 between Christendom

00:28:21.760 and Jewry.

00:28:23.000 And that has always been

00:28:23.900 the case in Europe.

00:28:24.820 But I don't hate them.

00:28:26.380 And I think I actually

00:28:27.040 sort of understand them

00:28:28.160 in a weird way.

00:28:29.320 I think that because

00:28:30.040 I've studied a lot

00:28:31.120 of their politics,

00:28:32.260 I think I really kind of

00:28:33.320 know them in a way.

00:28:34.080 And it doesn't come

00:28:35.060 from a place of hatred.

00:28:36.100 Do you have any Jewish friends?

00:28:38.240 I do.

00:28:38.780 I have many.

00:28:39.360 Yes.

00:28:39.860 But that's weird

00:28:40.860 because you said this.

00:28:43.460 Jews and Christians

00:28:44.360 have never been friends,

00:28:45.600 ever.

00:28:46.380 Not since Jesus Christ

00:28:47.500 fought with the Pharisees.

00:28:49.020 Have we ever been friends?

00:28:51.360 Not since Saul

00:28:52.880 was leading the charge

00:28:54.420 persecuting the Christians.

00:28:56.520 Not since the Roman Empire.

00:28:58.200 Not since the Middle Ages.

00:29:00.160 Never.

00:29:00.880 We've never been friends.

00:29:01.900 We've never been allies.

00:29:02.800 We've always been set

00:29:03.680 against each other,

00:29:04.660 actually.

00:29:06.680 And even here

00:29:07.520 in the United States,

00:29:08.460 it was...

00:29:09.100 This is such a reach.

00:29:10.260 ...communist Jews

00:29:10.560 who were the architects

00:29:11.540 of both communism

00:29:12.800 and the civil rights laws

00:29:14.300 that are dispossessing

00:29:15.420 white Christians

00:29:16.160 of their land

00:29:16.900 and civilization.

00:29:18.320 The Jews and Christians

00:29:19.180 have never been friends,

00:29:20.480 ever.

00:29:21.040 Bro, he said his best friend

00:29:22.140 is Jewish on Tucker.

00:29:23.480 Except for you

00:29:24.140 and your Jew.

00:29:24.880 Come on, Pierce.

00:29:25.700 Jewish friends.

00:29:26.140 Yeah, so easy.

00:29:28.460 As peoples.

00:29:29.860 As peoples.

00:29:30.660 As nations.

00:29:31.900 Got it.

00:29:32.460 Not saying every individual

00:29:34.060 Christian.

00:29:34.720 And of course,

00:29:35.620 there have been Christians

00:29:36.220 and...

00:29:36.600 There have been Christian converts

00:29:37.840 to Judaism,

00:29:38.760 Jewish converts to Christians.

00:29:40.080 You're nodding your head,

00:29:40.900 but you're asking this.

00:29:42.060 I'm saying as peoples,

00:29:42.980 they've never been.

00:29:43.580 I'm a Catholic like you

00:29:45.820 and I have many Jewish friends

00:29:46.920 and I'm just trying

00:29:47.460 to compute

00:29:48.360 what you're trying to say,

00:29:50.060 which is Jews and Christians

00:29:51.100 have never been friends,

00:29:52.180 ever.

00:29:52.340 And I'm like,

00:29:52.860 well, you have Jewish friends,

00:29:54.500 I have Jewish friends,

00:29:55.500 we're both Catholics,

00:29:56.720 therefore we're Christians.

00:29:58.180 It sort of doesn't really

00:29:59.040 quite add up.

00:30:01.040 Well, like I said,

00:30:01.980 as peoples,

00:30:02.760 there has been

00:30:03.420 an historical antagonism

00:30:04.760 as peoples.

00:30:05.580 And you could even say this...

00:30:06.520 Bro, he's talking

00:30:07.040 about biblical times.

00:30:07.960 Come on, Pierce.

00:30:08.500 Of course there were

00:30:10.300 black and white people

00:30:11.240 that were friendly

00:30:11.760 with each other,

00:30:12.640 but in many ways

00:30:13.780 they were set against

00:30:14.620 each other as groups.

00:30:16.600 And I think that's easy

00:30:17.540 enough to understand.

00:30:19.060 The reason that many people

00:30:20.600 think you're anti-Semitic

00:30:22.000 is that you have

00:30:22.960 regularly downplayed

00:30:25.000 the Holocaust

00:30:26.080 and in particular

00:30:27.160 the number of Jewish people

00:30:28.400 who were murdered

00:30:29.280 by the Nazis.

00:30:30.600 Here we go.

00:30:31.820 It's been said

00:30:32.700 that you believe

00:30:33.560 no more than

00:30:34.440 several hundred...

00:30:35.640 Here we go, boys!

00:30:36.820 ...have been killed.

00:30:37.660 And I'm going to play you

00:30:38.340 this clip.

00:30:39.100 Oh, shit!

00:30:39.880 Here we go!

00:30:40.460 People talk about,

00:30:40.700 well, you know,

00:30:41.240 what about the gas chambers?

00:30:42.980 Well, to the extent

00:30:44.420 that that's real,

00:30:45.360 I find that hard to believe,

00:30:46.700 but to the extent

00:30:47.300 that's real,

00:30:48.220 there have been

00:30:48.760 atrocities committed

00:30:49.840 and genocides committed

00:30:51.520 in all times

00:30:53.220 and all places.

00:30:54.500 Let's acknowledge

00:30:55.340 why Hitler

00:30:56.320 casts the long shadow.

00:30:59.400 Because that confers

00:31:00.580 a political benefit

00:31:01.760 upon Jews.

00:31:03.020 That's why.

00:31:03.880 It doesn't really

00:31:04.500 sound correct to me.

00:31:05.580 Wait a second.

00:31:06.500 It takes one hour

00:31:07.280 to cook a batch

00:31:08.060 of cookies

00:31:08.580 and you have 15 ovens,

00:31:10.860 probably in four

00:31:11.900 different kitchens, right?

00:31:13.440 Doing 24 hours a day

00:31:14.620 every day for five years.

00:31:15.920 How long would it take

00:31:16.840 you to make six million?

00:31:18.800 Hmm.

00:31:19.280 I don't know.

00:31:19.700 It certainly wouldn't

00:31:20.300 be five years, right?

00:31:21.560 The math doesn't

00:31:22.460 seem to add up there.

00:31:25.160 You think that's funny?

00:31:27.260 Yes.

00:31:28.300 It's funny.

00:31:28.980 It's amusing

00:31:29.480 what you're doing

00:31:30.240 because, you know,

00:31:31.640 that one was a joke.

00:31:32.820 But do you want

00:31:33.320 to talk seriously

00:31:34.020 about the Holocaust?

00:31:35.280 Yeah, I do, actually.

00:31:36.160 I mean, I do

00:31:36.880 because I just find

00:31:37.800 it extraordinary

00:31:38.940 that you would think

00:31:39.780 the Holocaust

00:31:40.360 could ever be something

00:31:42.140 that we could joke about.

00:31:45.380 Why?

00:31:45.880 Too soon?

00:31:49.480 Is it too soon

00:31:50.400 to make jokes?

00:31:51.240 How many people

00:31:52.720 do you think

00:31:53.560 died in the Holocaust?

00:31:54.500 How many Jewish people?

00:31:56.460 Oh.

00:31:57.140 I don't know.

00:31:58.080 I'm thinking

00:31:58.460 maybe seven million.

00:31:59.860 What's the number?

00:32:01.300 Seven, six million,

00:32:02.360 something like that.

00:32:03.660 You can see

00:32:05.280 that six million Jews

00:32:06.220 died in the Holocaust.

00:32:08.720 Possibly more.

00:32:09.960 Possibly, you know,

00:32:10.900 we're discovering

00:32:11.400 all the time.

00:32:12.580 So it could maybe

00:32:13.460 even be more than that.

00:32:14.900 Why have you doubted

00:32:16.660 the numbers in the past?

00:32:19.640 I'll tell you why.

00:32:22.300 I really think

00:32:23.420 that every death

00:32:24.020 is a tragedy,

00:32:25.040 however many Jewish people

00:32:26.220 died in the Holocaust.

00:32:27.860 And I'm not

00:32:28.580 a World War II historian,

00:32:29.880 so I'm actually open

00:32:30.880 to believing

00:32:31.460 the official narrative

00:32:32.420 and I've read

00:32:33.200 some of the conspiracy theories.

00:32:34.740 And to tell you the truth,

00:32:35.760 it's a rigorous debate.

00:32:37.820 But you know

00:32:38.340 what's interesting

00:32:39.020 about this

00:32:39.760 is

00:32:40.580 in many countries

00:32:42.200 it's not even legal

00:32:43.360 to talk about it.

00:32:45.160 And that's really

00:32:45.820 where my interest

00:32:46.640 in the Holocaust

00:32:47.260 begins and sort of ends

00:32:49.000 to tell you the truth

00:32:50.020 is that

00:32:50.980 if you wanted

00:32:51.720 to question the number,

00:32:52.820 you would be put in jail

00:32:54.360 in about...

00:32:55.300 Bring up

00:32:55.700 Ernest Zundel.

00:32:56.940 Ernest Zundel, man.

00:32:58.300 I think that's really

00:32:58.860 the more interesting conversation,

00:33:00.480 which is that

00:33:01.060 this is almost like

00:33:02.760 a religious dogma

00:33:04.520 in the West.

00:33:06.000 No other genocide,

00:33:07.520 no other atrocity

00:33:08.660 is treated like this.

00:33:09.700 Could you imagine

00:33:10.400 if in the United States

00:33:12.000 they said

00:33:12.540 the number of Palestinians

00:33:14.060 killed in Gaza

00:33:14.980 is 100,000

00:33:16.080 and if you don't say that

00:33:17.340 you're going to jail,

00:33:19.020 you're banned on X,

00:33:20.420 you can't have a job?

00:33:21.940 That's the part

00:33:22.700 that's totally insane.

00:33:23.860 And a lot of people,

00:33:24.840 they can't even

00:33:25.720 make up their minds.

00:33:26.700 I think it's actually

00:33:27.380 done a disservice.

00:33:28.820 If your goal,

00:33:30.060 and I'm not saying you

00:33:31.360 as Piers Morgan,

00:33:32.380 but if your goal,

00:33:33.300 if you're an advocate

00:33:34.180 for awareness about this,

00:33:36.860 if your goal

00:33:37.400 is to convince everybody

00:33:38.620 that this is the way

00:33:39.680 the Holocaust happened,

00:33:40.960 I think the last thing

00:33:41.800 you'd want to do

00:33:42.380 is say that

00:33:42.900 everyone that disagrees

00:33:44.340 is in jail

00:33:45.520 and is banned

00:33:46.420 and you're not allowed

00:33:47.120 to say it.

00:33:47.920 So there's really been

00:33:48.800 no open debate

00:33:49.860 about the subject

00:33:50.820 since the scholarship

00:33:52.520 started to be produced

00:33:53.620 about 60 years ago.

00:33:54.660 There is no debate

00:33:56.760 to be had

00:33:57.360 about the number

00:33:57.920 of people

00:33:58.400 who were murdered.

00:34:00.220 Even the Nazis,

00:34:01.380 even the Nazis

00:34:02.460 in the trials

00:34:03.880 after the war

00:34:04.980 confirmed the numbers.

00:34:07.320 The amount of documentation

00:34:08.480 that was recovered,

00:34:10.500 notwithstanding

00:34:11.220 the attempts

00:34:11.720 by the Nazis

00:34:12.300 to destroy it,

00:34:13.540 the amount of documentation

00:34:14.600 that was saved

00:34:16.200 and preserved

00:34:16.980 and used for trials

00:34:18.780 and for historical record

00:34:19.920 is unprecedented

00:34:21.380 in the history

00:34:22.780 of mass slaughter

00:34:23.720 of human beings.

00:34:24.980 So we have

00:34:25.640 a very clear idea

00:34:26.960 of how many people

00:34:28.400 were gassed to death

00:34:29.860 in the gas chambers.

00:34:31.500 We have a very clear idea

00:34:32.720 of how many

00:34:33.280 were starved to death,

00:34:34.980 were kept in ghettos,

00:34:36.600 died of disease,

00:34:37.600 of forced labour,

00:34:38.240 of death marches.

00:34:39.080 We know how many Jews

00:34:40.440 were slaughtered.

00:34:41.980 It's at least 6 million.

00:34:43.780 What's interesting to me

00:34:45.060 is that you appear

00:34:46.320 to now concede that,

00:34:47.540 which may be news

00:34:48.620 to a lot of your

00:34:49.260 regular viewers

00:34:50.460 who have constantly

00:34:51.760 heard you quibble

00:34:53.440 with the number of Jews

00:34:54.840 who died in the Holocaust.

00:34:56.000 For the record,

00:34:57.120 just to confirm

00:34:57.840 what I think you told me,

00:34:59.320 you do now accept

00:35:00.480 that at least 6 million Jews

00:35:03.220 were killed

00:35:03.620 in the Holocaust.

00:35:05.800 Well, no.

00:35:06.620 I said it could be...

00:35:08.220 It could even be higher.

00:35:09.460 Well, it could be higher.

00:35:10.580 That is true.

00:35:11.420 But you accept at least.

00:35:12.740 It's at least.

00:35:13.640 Oh, it's at least 6 million.

00:35:15.200 But it could be 100 times

00:35:16.400 more than that.

00:35:16.920 OK, the people are going to be...

00:35:18.720 But let me respond to your...

00:35:20.280 Let me respond

00:35:21.000 to the rest of your question.

00:35:22.000 Sure.

00:35:22.620 What you're saying,

00:35:23.980 I understand

00:35:24.840 where you're coming from

00:35:25.720 when you say

00:35:26.380 it has been documented

00:35:27.720 and there are confessions

00:35:29.140 and so on.

00:35:30.440 Let that speak for itself.

00:35:32.920 But you don't see...

00:35:33.780 You know,

00:35:33.980 your show is called

00:35:34.660 Piers Morgan Uncensored.

00:35:36.160 Yep.

00:35:36.400 But the United Kingdom

00:35:37.220 is censored

00:35:38.060 and Europe is censored.

00:35:39.320 And if you talk

00:35:40.280 about these things,

00:35:41.180 you will be put in jail

00:35:42.760 in many countries.

00:35:44.280 And I think that's where

00:35:44.920 a lot of people start to say,

00:35:46.220 well, if the truth

00:35:47.940 is so clear

00:35:49.500 and if there's such

00:35:50.240 overwhelming evidence,

00:35:51.360 why do you need to throw

00:35:52.220 people in jail

00:35:53.120 for disagreeing?

00:35:54.440 And you yourself said,

00:35:55.520 well, there is no debate.

00:35:57.160 I think everything

00:35:58.020 is debatable.

00:35:58.860 I think everything

00:35:59.540 at least should be debated.

00:36:01.160 And if the evidence

00:36:02.060 is very one-sided,

00:36:03.420 let the evidence speak.

00:36:04.940 Don't throw people in jail.

00:36:06.500 So do you think

00:36:07.100 that Holocaust denial laws

00:36:09.100 should be overturned?

00:36:10.640 I don't particularly agree

00:36:11.860 with Holocaust denial laws.

00:36:13.200 I don't think people

00:36:13.860 should be imprisoned.

00:36:14.940 Well, because I have

00:36:16.180 a blanket view now,

00:36:17.480 which has evolved slightly

00:36:18.680 actually over the years,

00:36:20.040 that I have a blanket view

00:36:21.580 that speech should not

00:36:23.240 be criminalized, right?

00:36:24.480 People should be allowed

00:36:25.420 to say what they want to say

00:36:26.680 and they should be then

00:36:28.140 made accountable

00:36:29.420 for what they say.

00:36:30.220 If you have an employer,

00:36:31.200 they can make a view

00:36:32.100 about whether you are

00:36:33.260 the right kind of person

00:36:34.100 they want for their employment,

00:36:35.160 as they would make a decision

00:36:36.200 about anything else

00:36:37.320 you do in life.

00:36:38.140 So I actually believe

00:36:39.280 that speech should never

00:36:40.220 be criminalized.

00:36:40.980 It's my personal view.

00:36:41.960 I understand why

00:36:43.100 in places like Germany

00:36:44.120 they have strong laws about it

00:36:46.120 because they want to move on

00:36:47.420 from what they believe

00:36:48.680 was the most shameful

00:36:49.520 moment in their history.

00:36:51.140 I understand that.

00:36:52.700 Do I want that in my country?

00:36:54.440 No.

00:36:55.100 Am I appalled

00:36:56.260 by what has been going on

00:36:57.400 with free speech

00:36:58.000 in the United Kingdom

00:36:59.020 in the last two or three years?

00:37:00.700 Absolutely.

00:37:01.740 It is ridiculous

00:37:02.660 that people have been

00:37:03.620 frog-marched to prison cells

00:37:05.680 for stuff they put

00:37:06.380 on social media, right?

00:37:07.660 So, yeah, I do.

00:37:08.840 I think what is more interesting

00:37:09.940 to me about our exchange

00:37:11.200 is I was not expecting you

00:37:13.540 to go the opposite way.

00:37:15.140 I was not expecting you

00:37:16.120 to be so emphatic

00:37:17.080 that at least 6 million Jews

00:37:18.860 died on the Holocaust.

00:37:20.280 And there will be people

00:37:20.800 watching this

00:37:21.560 who I think will be

00:37:22.540 very surprised by that

00:37:23.780 because you have built

00:37:24.760 a reputation

00:37:25.460 for being,

00:37:26.880 if not a Holocaust denier,

00:37:28.660 than somebody

00:37:29.080 constantly questioning

00:37:30.220 in a downward way

00:37:31.580 the number of Jews

00:37:32.780 who were murdered.

00:37:34.180 That doesn't appear

00:37:35.120 to be what your position

00:37:35.900 is now.

00:37:36.340 Bro, he's trolling.

00:37:37.360 No, and here's what

00:37:38.800 I would like to see.

00:37:39.820 Just like I am right now.

00:37:41.100 My entire career,

00:37:42.020 when I started my show,

00:37:43.360 it started with

00:37:43.940 a good faith inquiry

00:37:44.860 where I was questioning

00:37:45.880 a lot of these narratives

00:37:46.840 and I said,

00:37:47.800 what is the answer

00:37:48.680 on the other side?

00:37:49.600 But what I found

00:37:50.320 is that the answer

00:37:51.040 was criminalized.

00:37:52.140 So when you would talk

00:37:52.980 about anything regarding

00:37:53.960 Jews, Israel,

00:37:54.940 the Holocaust,

00:37:56.080 you could be in favor

00:37:57.280 of the official narrative

00:37:58.460 on those things.

00:37:59.200 If you went against,

00:38:00.380 you were banned,

00:38:01.220 censored,

00:38:01.760 and in some countries,

00:38:02.840 jailed.

00:38:03.220 And so I actually haven't

00:38:04.700 made up my mind on that

00:38:06.240 because that's not really

00:38:07.340 a matter of interest to me.

00:38:08.580 And there's a lot of analysis

00:38:10.460 and scholarship

00:38:11.260 on both sides of the issue.

00:38:13.440 And I've read both sides

00:38:14.720 of the issue.

00:38:15.500 And honestly,

00:38:16.240 unfortunately,

00:38:17.100 it's hard to judge

00:38:18.780 because there has never been,

00:38:20.480 there's never been

00:38:21.640 a debate on it.

00:38:22.520 And there's never been

00:38:23.260 a debate because of the stigma,

00:38:25.440 because of the censorship.

00:38:26.420 And I think that leads

00:38:27.760 a lot of people to say,

00:38:28.900 well, what do they have to hide?

00:38:30.460 Because you can say

00:38:31.400 on your show,

00:38:32.000 well, I'm personally

00:38:32.960 against Holocaust denial laws,

00:38:35.160 yet they still persist

00:38:36.360 and the social consequences

00:38:38.140 still persist.

00:38:39.060 And I think that

00:38:39.720 that is the anomaly.

00:38:41.380 And people have to wonder,

00:38:42.460 okay, why is it that way?

00:38:44.700 And what I said in that clip

00:38:46.080 is the reason the Holocaust

00:38:47.680 casts a long shadow

00:38:49.020 is because it confers

00:38:50.400 a political benefit

00:38:51.600 upon organized Jewry.

00:38:53.500 That is what they always

00:38:54.460 fall back on.

00:38:55.500 They cannot be criticized.

00:38:56.880 They cannot be named.

00:38:57.900 They cannot be talked about,

00:38:59.480 lest there be another Holocaust.

00:39:00.820 And no other tragedy

00:39:02.600 is treated that way

00:39:03.500 and no other ethnic group

00:39:04.700 has a get-out-of-jail-free card.

00:39:06.500 Just play that.

00:39:07.320 Anti-Semitism and Holocaust,

00:39:09.160 you can do whatever you want

00:39:10.260 and defend all your actions.

00:39:11.940 That's the part

00:39:12.560 that people are getting upset with.

00:39:13.860 That's the problem.

00:39:14.640 I don't know

00:39:15.840 any right-minded person

00:39:17.160 who believes

00:39:17.640 that Jewish people

00:39:18.400 weaponize the Holocaust

00:39:19.620 for their own

00:39:21.040 personal get-out-of-jail-free

00:39:22.720 or whatever you call it.

00:39:23.640 You don't know anyone

00:39:24.300 that does that?

00:39:24.940 Come on, dude.

00:39:25.600 I'm sure there are

00:39:26.560 some people that do that,

00:39:27.360 but it's such a ridiculous

00:39:28.240 generalization.

00:39:29.840 You know, the truth is

00:39:30.900 that most Jewish people

00:39:32.000 have lost relatives

00:39:33.520 in the Holocaust.

00:39:34.680 In fact, I want to play you

00:39:35.600 two clips.

00:39:37.980 One is where you talk

00:39:38.840 about Adolf Hitler.

00:39:42.640 Hitler was a pedophile

00:39:44.320 and kind of a pagan.

00:39:46.760 It's like, well,

00:39:47.520 he was also really fucking cool.

00:39:50.340 So, you know,

00:39:52.160 time to grow up.

00:39:53.160 We're not children anymore.

00:39:55.340 Am I right?

00:39:56.240 Am I right?

00:39:57.260 Am I right, boys?

00:39:58.840 Am I right?

00:39:59.720 Let's go.

00:40:01.140 He was also

00:40:02.100 really fucking cool.

00:40:04.920 Do you regret saying that?

00:40:08.420 Saying a fact?

00:40:09.880 No, no.

00:40:10.500 That's absolutely true.

00:40:12.040 You think Hitler

00:40:12.840 was very fucking cool?

00:40:15.840 Yes, I do.

00:40:17.900 Let's go.

00:40:18.840 And I'm tired

00:40:19.320 of pretending he's not.

00:40:20.860 Well, this is the problem,

00:40:22.980 you see.

00:40:23.260 It's a bit like

00:40:23.700 when you just say

00:40:24.240 I'm a racist.

00:40:24.940 You're a racist

00:40:26.180 who thinks Hitler's cool

00:40:27.480 but you're not anti-Semitic.

00:40:29.060 If you're a Jewish person

00:40:30.500 watching this,

00:40:31.920 what are they thinking?

00:40:33.500 I'll tell you

00:40:33.840 what they're thinking

00:40:34.360 because I've got a friend

00:40:35.060 of mine called

00:40:35.640 Danny Finkelstein

00:40:36.500 who, when he heard

00:40:38.660 I was interviewing you,

00:40:39.620 he's a Times journalist

00:40:40.840 in the UK,

00:40:41.500 very eminent journalist

00:40:42.700 here and author

00:40:43.520 who wrote a book

00:40:44.340 about his own

00:40:44.960 family's experiences

00:40:46.180 at the hands of Hitler

00:40:47.100 and Stalin

00:40:47.760 because he also told

00:40:49.020 Tucker Carlson

00:40:49.720 that you admire Stalin.

00:40:52.340 But let's just tell you

00:40:53.840 what Danny said here.

00:40:56.100 Hi, Piers.

00:40:56.840 It's Danny Finkelstein here.

00:40:58.420 As you're interviewing

00:40:59.120 Nick Fuentes,

00:40:59.920 you might try suggesting

00:41:00.880 to him that he reads

00:41:01.900 my book

00:41:02.420 Hitler, Stalin,

00:41:03.200 Mum and Dad.

00:41:03.660 It's called

00:41:04.060 Two Roads Home

00:41:05.340 in the United States.

00:41:07.100 Since he says

00:41:07.860 he's on Team Hitler,

00:41:09.220 you might like to ask him

00:41:10.580 about the fact

00:41:11.460 that Hitler arrested

00:41:12.340 my mum,

00:41:13.400 tried to starve

00:41:14.320 my mum to death,

00:41:15.460 did starve

00:41:16.060 my grandmother to death,

00:41:17.700 sent my great aunt

00:41:18.760 to the gas chamber,

00:41:20.180 my great uncle,

00:41:21.440 my cousin,

00:41:22.240 my grandmother

00:41:23.420 on my father's side.

00:41:24.580 Here we go.

00:41:25.860 Here we go.

00:41:28.080 Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

00:41:30.240 Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

00:41:32.860 Wow, wow, wow, wow.

00:41:35.380 Wow, wow, wow.

00:41:37.480 Oh my God, so bad.

00:41:39.780 Oh, wow, wow, wow.

00:41:41.700 Oh no, oy vey.

00:41:44.100 The noticing is going on.

00:41:46.140 No, shut it down.

00:41:47.680 Do the shut it down.

00:41:48.760 Do the shut it down, no, no, where, where, where, where?

00:42:12.620 That's the reality of your jokes.

00:42:16.260 Although I haven't ascertained yet whether you are joking

00:42:18.780 when you say that Hitler was very fucking cool.

00:42:21.860 Are you joking, or do you actually think he was very fucking cool,

00:42:25.700 the most genocidal monster of the last 150 years?

00:42:31.740 Yeah, the thing is, my generation,

00:42:34.340 we're just done with the pearl clutching, you know?

00:42:36.960 Yeah, you might be, but then your generation hasn't gone through

00:42:39.380 what Danny Finkelstein's family went through.

00:42:41.660 So maybe the pearl clutching has a way to go

00:42:44.760 for families whose family members were murdered.

00:42:47.980 Oh my gosh, yeah, we got all that.

00:42:50.760 We, you know, me mom, me mom, like we're, you know,

00:42:53.460 I don't even know who this person is.

00:42:55.120 Why is this person talking to me?

00:42:56.700 This old British guy is saying,

00:42:58.380 me mom got killed by Hitler.

00:42:59.980 Because he doesn't find it funny

00:43:01.040 when you say Hitler's very fucking cool.

00:43:02.900 I don't care.

00:43:03.100 I don't care.

00:43:04.180 I know you don't care.

00:43:05.320 That's fine.

00:43:06.080 You don't have to care.

00:43:07.820 But he does care.

00:43:08.620 Does that guy care about America?

00:43:10.200 Does that guy care about me and my country and my family?

00:43:13.140 No.

00:43:13.520 He cares what you, a prominent conservative in America,

00:43:17.540 has to say about Adolf Hitler.

00:43:19.340 And what do you mean by Hitler is very fucking cool?

00:43:22.560 Because I think he's very fucking a monster.

00:43:25.500 Okay.

00:43:26.700 And that's a clip.

00:43:29.100 I think he's very fucking a monster.

00:43:31.480 Do you hear yourself?

00:43:32.640 Yeah, I do.

00:43:32.980 Can we all grow up?

00:43:34.080 Can we all grow up?

00:43:35.200 He murdered 12 million people.

00:43:36.620 He murdered 12 million people.

00:43:38.240 What is very fucking cool about that?

00:43:40.320 Tell me.

00:43:41.900 The edits.

00:43:42.940 It's just cool.

00:43:43.880 The uniforms, the parades.

00:43:46.780 It's cool as a guy.

00:43:48.400 You look at World War II.

00:43:50.020 And it's fascinating.

00:43:51.120 And it's interesting.

00:43:52.020 And it's compelling.

00:43:53.240 And it's cool.

00:43:54.160 And, you know,

00:43:55.100 we're just tired of saying these kinds of things.

00:43:57.280 We want to talk like real people

00:43:58.840 and give our honest opinions.

00:44:00.400 And then we literally get an old Jewish guy

00:44:03.320 from England who's going to say,

00:44:05.040 oh, that's not very funny, mate.

00:44:06.520 Me mom.

00:44:07.100 And it's like, shut up.

00:44:08.980 Like, you know,

00:44:09.940 no one is in favor of genocide.

00:44:11.640 So let's just get that out of the way.

00:44:13.240 Exactly.

00:44:13.920 We're not in favor of a Holocaust or genocide.

00:44:15.940 It's 80 years ago.

00:44:17.960 You think if half your family

00:44:19.120 had been wiped out

00:44:20.000 by very fucking cool Hitler,

00:44:22.500 you'd still think he was very fucking cool.

00:44:24.220 Bros did a genocide,

00:44:25.220 but they're still crying about that event.

00:44:26.780 Despicable monster

00:44:27.860 who murdered 12 million people

00:44:29.740 who targeted people

00:44:30.700 because they were disabled

00:44:32.060 or Jewish

00:44:33.320 or Romany gypsy

00:44:35.260 or whatever it may be.

00:44:36.940 And that he systematically destroyed people,

00:44:40.060 incinerated them in gas chambers.

00:44:42.040 Do you think that you would find it

00:44:43.220 very fucking cool

00:44:44.260 if your family

00:44:45.580 had been through that?

00:44:47.080 Or do you think you would find it

00:44:48.220 very fucking disgusting?

00:44:49.720 Here we go.

00:44:50.300 And perhaps moderate

00:44:51.180 the number of times

00:44:51.860 you laugh about it

00:44:53.200 or want to joke about it

00:44:54.840 or want to abuse

00:44:56.260 someone like Danny Finkelstein,

00:44:57.980 who's written incredibly powerful books

00:45:00.020 about what happened

00:45:00.860 to his extended family

00:45:02.440 at the hands of the Nazis

00:45:03.720 and your other hero, Stalin.

00:45:06.120 See, my point to you, Nick Fuentes,

00:45:07.760 is that in parts of this interview,

00:45:10.180 you try to come across as moderate.

00:45:12.400 But every now and again,

00:45:13.360 the mask slips.

00:45:14.800 And it slipped again here

00:45:15.780 with what you say about Hitler.

00:45:17.580 There's nothing very fucking cool about Hitler.

00:45:19.860 We know that from history now.

00:45:21.320 We know what he did.

00:45:22.760 You've already conceded

00:45:24.020 that he murdered

00:45:24.960 at least six million Jews.

00:45:26.800 So when you say

00:45:27.400 he's very fucking cool,

00:45:28.440 Jewish people watch this and go,

00:45:30.520 this guy is disgusting.

00:45:31.600 It's seven million pairs.

00:45:32.480 Seven.

00:45:32.500 Why do you say this

00:45:32.860 about someone

00:45:34.040 who perpetrated such an evil?

00:45:36.000 And what's the real answer?

00:45:37.800 Why do you?

00:45:38.380 Is it just for clicks?

00:45:39.500 Is it for money?

00:45:40.640 Is it just for fun?

00:45:42.000 For shits and giggles?

00:45:43.280 What is it?

00:45:43.960 What motivates you

00:45:45.220 to say something like

00:45:46.640 Hitler was very fucking cool?

00:45:48.680 Bruh.

00:45:49.740 It's for this.

00:45:50.720 It's for all of this.

00:45:51.940 And the lack of self-awareness

00:45:53.520 is amazing.

00:45:54.420 You're a boomer.

00:45:55.560 You're a 60-year-old boomer.

00:45:57.140 And we've spent maybe

00:45:58.400 three minutes on you saying,

00:46:00.040 he's a really fucking monster.

00:46:02.160 He incinerated people.

00:46:03.800 This, this.

00:46:04.660 And I'm sitting here saying,

00:46:06.480 it's not that serious.

00:46:08.320 It's not that deep.

00:46:09.720 And what I'm getting at...

00:46:11.400 Not that serious.

00:46:12.300 Do you want to say more

00:46:13.440 about he's a monster?

00:46:15.160 You're not a kid yourself anymore.

00:46:16.820 You're not a teenager.

00:46:17.880 I know.

00:46:18.520 You're nearly 30,

00:46:20.400 to be clear.

00:46:21.200 We are.

00:46:21.480 OK?

00:46:21.820 You're a fully formed adult

00:46:23.200 who has a brain, right?

00:46:25.720 And at some stage,

00:46:26.720 that brain is taking you

00:46:27.720 off these rabbit lines.

00:46:28.260 Is this an interview

00:46:28.960 or is this a lecture?

00:46:30.120 Can I respond to

00:46:31.000 what you're saying?

00:46:31.700 I want you to really,

00:46:32.640 I want you to explain

00:46:33.760 why you think it's fine

00:46:35.120 to say how fucking cool

00:46:37.060 Hitler is

00:46:37.760 and to dismiss

00:46:39.100 the very powerful 90 seconds

00:46:41.560 from a British journalist

00:46:43.080 who'd lost a lot of family members

00:46:44.620 to the Nazis

00:46:45.800 in such a callous,

00:46:47.500 dismissive manner.

00:46:48.180 Wah, wah.

00:46:49.340 I don't think it's powerful.

00:46:50.700 I think we've been hearing

00:46:51.560 that our entire lives.

00:46:53.060 OK?

00:46:53.400 The Schindler's List.

00:46:54.740 Let's just be honest.

00:46:55.780 The propaganda is over the top.

00:46:57.900 We have been brought...

00:46:58.640 In America...

00:46:59.220 What about the Schindler's List?

00:47:00.460 Tell me about the Schindler's List.

00:47:01.860 Well, tell me about the Schindler's List.

00:47:03.080 I'll tell you about it.

00:47:03.860 We have been browbeaten

00:47:05.500 as a people,

00:47:06.620 as Americans,

00:47:07.600 as Westerners

00:47:08.400 for our entire lives.

00:47:10.380 And do you know

00:47:10.880 what this has done?

00:47:11.740 It has taken away

00:47:12.960 any sense of pride,

00:47:14.800 any sense of love

00:47:16.340 for our own civilization.

00:47:18.080 We have been made

00:47:19.080 the villain

00:47:19.620 in our own story.

00:47:20.960 We have been made because...

00:47:22.220 Well, let's just be clear.

00:47:23.280 It doesn't begin and end

00:47:24.360 with Hitler is a monster.

00:47:26.920 This has been

00:47:27.560 the political narrative,

00:47:28.700 which is why

00:47:29.200 we have thrown open

00:47:30.000 the borders.

00:47:30.720 This is a political narrative,

00:47:31.860 which is why

00:47:32.440 we're not...

00:47:33.560 We can't be a conservative

00:47:34.740 society as a whole anymore.

00:47:36.240 Why we can't be proud

00:47:37.500 of Europeans.

00:47:38.660 Why we can't be proud

00:47:39.620 of being Christian.

00:47:40.420 Because they've told us

00:47:41.660 if you're too white

00:47:43.140 and too proud

00:47:43.940 and too Christian,

00:47:44.840 it's going to lead

00:47:45.500 to a Holocaust.

00:47:46.480 And so my generation

00:47:47.380 our entire lives...

00:47:48.340 Oh, what a crock of shit.

00:47:48.780 Wait, wait, wait.

00:47:49.660 Honestly, Nick Fulentes...

00:47:49.900 No, no.

00:47:50.560 It's true.

00:47:51.400 And that's why people like me.

00:47:52.980 That's why I'm popular

00:47:53.840 because this is bullshit.

00:47:54.900 What a crock of shit.

00:47:55.520 Honestly.

00:47:55.760 Yeah, it's a crock...

00:47:56.680 We don't want to hear

00:47:57.460 any more about me mum

00:47:58.580 and me dad.

00:47:59.220 That's a crock of shit.

00:48:00.220 No, no, listen.

00:48:01.060 What you just said

00:48:02.060 is a crock of shit.

00:48:03.860 And you know it.

00:48:04.220 It's true.

00:48:04.660 It's called the open society.

00:48:06.360 And in your gut,

00:48:07.420 you know it is.

00:48:09.000 You weaponize this stuff...

00:48:10.140 No, you know.

00:48:10.640 You weaponize this stuff

00:48:11.740 for money,

00:48:12.440 but you know

00:48:13.260 when you say something

00:48:14.160 like what you just said...

00:48:14.980 I'm banned from banking.

00:48:15.840 I'm banned from banking

00:48:16.920 and credit cards.

00:48:17.780 You know who you're talking to?

00:48:18.860 I do it for money.

00:48:19.920 And by the way...

00:48:20.240 How much money you make?

00:48:21.180 Your company's worth

00:48:21.940 $100 million.

00:48:23.420 Your country...

00:48:24.560 Your company's worth

00:48:25.240 $100 million.

00:48:26.380 I was banned

00:48:27.360 from Bank of America.

00:48:28.340 And you shouldn't have been.

00:48:28.900 I'm banned from

00:48:29.240 processing credit cards.

00:48:30.260 And you shouldn't have been.

00:48:30.900 But I am.

00:48:31.600 So don't tell me

00:48:32.260 I'm doing it for money.

00:48:33.000 Well, ask me my opinion

00:48:34.340 about that.

00:48:34.900 I'll tell you

00:48:35.300 you shouldn't have been.

00:48:36.420 Right?

00:48:36.840 I don't agree with that.

00:48:38.020 What happened to you?

00:48:38.580 Then don't say

00:48:38.940 I'm doing it for money.

00:48:40.100 Because you know that

00:48:40.960 full well

00:48:41.440 and you say it's a grift.

00:48:42.400 How much money are you?

00:48:43.440 If I wanted to be a grifter,

00:48:44.040 I'd be like you.

00:48:44.900 How much money are you making?

00:48:48.680 I'm making a lot of money now.

00:48:50.460 Yeah.

00:48:50.700 Now that I'm the number one

00:48:51.760 live streamer in America

00:48:52.940 because people agree with me

00:48:54.180 more than they agree with you.

00:48:55.260 We're tired of hearing about

00:48:56.280 slavery and the Holocaust

00:48:57.920 and Jim Crow.

00:48:59.220 We're done hearing about that.

00:49:00.840 You guys overplayed your head.

00:49:01.900 Yeah, I'm not done hearing about that.

00:49:03.460 OK, well, you know,

00:49:05.500 your generation's on the way out

00:49:06.880 and Generation Z is coming up

00:49:08.380 and we're finished with that.

00:49:09.740 We're ready to take our country back.

00:49:11.000 You know, I've got three sons.

00:49:11.400 We're not listening to

00:49:12.040 crime minorities anymore.

00:49:13.340 I've got three sons

00:49:14.260 and they don't share your views

00:49:15.720 about slavery

00:49:17.480 and about the Holocaust.

00:49:19.060 They can have decency

00:49:20.160 and compassion

00:49:20.860 and humanity

00:49:21.980 about some of the worst things

00:49:23.500 that have happened

00:49:24.080 in the last 150 years or more.

00:49:26.540 Sound like girls.

00:49:27.560 They can do that

00:49:28.200 and they can also have

00:49:29.260 concerned views

00:49:30.540 about issues like immigration

00:49:32.200 and other issues.

00:49:33.260 The two things

00:49:33.960 are not mutually incompatible.

00:49:35.900 You can have different views

00:49:37.000 about different things.

00:49:38.020 It's your lack of humanity

00:49:39.240 and compassion

00:49:40.280 for people

00:49:41.500 about things like the Holocaust,

00:49:43.280 about slavery.

00:49:44.520 It's that

00:49:45.160 that people find

00:49:45.940 so contemptible.

00:49:47.060 And I don't understand

00:49:47.920 why you need to do that.

00:49:49.620 Again, I just ask you,

00:49:51.300 is your motivation financial?

00:49:53.900 Is your motivation

00:49:54.920 for fun?

00:49:56.460 What is the motivation

00:49:57.740 to saying these outlandish things

00:49:59.460 which you don't need to say

00:50:00.860 and which I suspect,

00:50:02.280 I don't know,

00:50:03.500 I suspect a lot of it

00:50:04.480 is performative?

00:50:05.600 So what is the motivation?

00:50:07.740 I'm an iconoclast.

00:50:09.140 The Holocaust is not my religion.

00:50:10.980 And it is treated

00:50:11.840 like a religion.

00:50:12.520 It is treated like a religion

00:50:13.860 with dogma,

00:50:15.200 with blasphemy laws.

00:50:16.640 And that secular religion says,

00:50:19.060 and you say,

00:50:19.800 you say that's a crock of shit.

00:50:21.740 It's intentional.

00:50:22.880 It's called

00:50:23.160 The Open Society

00:50:24.180 by Karl Popper.

00:50:25.300 It's by these architects

00:50:26.700 of the liberal order

00:50:27.740 after World War II.

00:50:28.960 They got together

00:50:29.800 and they said,

00:50:30.320 how can we make sure

00:50:31.120 that Hitler never happens?

00:50:32.600 How can we make sure

00:50:33.460 that totalitarianism

00:50:34.900 never happens again?

00:50:35.960 And they came up

00:50:36.860 with the consensus

00:50:37.580 which is that we need

00:50:38.900 to take down nations,

00:50:41.000 religions, fathers,

00:50:42.280 the authoritarian personality.

00:50:44.100 We need to be empathetic

00:50:45.380 and altruistic.

00:50:46.260 We need to be diverse

00:50:47.180 and pluralistic.

00:50:48.220 And that experiment

00:50:49.180 isn't working.

00:50:50.080 And I'll tell you the truth.

00:50:51.400 Right now,

00:50:52.420 and you can laugh at this,

00:50:53.900 you can scoff at this,

00:50:55.680 our people

00:50:56.480 are being genocided

00:50:57.840 in our country.

00:50:59.620 50% of the live births

00:51:01.360 in the United Kingdom

00:51:02.220 and in the United States

00:51:03.480 are non-white.

00:51:04.700 In 100 years,

00:51:05.840 my ancestors,

00:51:07.040 your ancestors,

00:51:07.960 your kids

00:51:08.460 who are so empathetic

00:51:09.540 and compassionate,

00:51:10.620 they're going to be

00:51:11.240 a minority.

00:51:12.200 They're going to be

00:51:12.700 a minority

00:51:13.160 in maybe a Muslim country,

00:51:14.740 an Indian country,

00:51:15.960 an Hispanic country,

00:51:17.100 and these Jewish people

00:51:18.460 that are 100 years old

00:51:19.860 talking about my grandparents

00:51:21.180 and the Holocaust,

00:51:22.620 they don't care about that.

00:51:23.540 Actually,

00:51:23.860 they like to see it.

00:51:24.640 At the SPLC,

00:51:25.680 they're literally

00:51:26.300 counting down the days

00:51:27.580 until whites

00:51:28.220 are a minority in America.

00:51:29.980 So forgive me

00:51:30.700 if I don't believe them

00:51:31.720 when they talk about compassion.

00:51:33.400 There's a genocide

00:51:34.220 going on right now.

00:51:35.360 It's not against the Jews.

00:51:36.340 How many Christians are there?

00:51:37.220 Gaza?

00:51:37.800 It's against whites.

00:51:38.080 How many Christians

00:51:38.780 are there in the world?

00:51:41.080 One point some billion.

00:51:42.780 Two billion.

00:51:43.540 I don't know.

00:51:43.860 How many Jews are there?

00:51:45.240 15 million.

00:51:46.240 Okay.

00:51:47.000 So with a straight face,

00:51:48.500 you're going to tell me

00:51:49.140 the world is being overrun

00:51:51.620 by the Jewry,

00:51:53.220 by 15 million people

00:51:54.860 when there are

00:51:55.500 over a billion Christians.

00:51:57.240 There is a genocide

00:51:58.460 of Christians

00:51:59.880 like poor old

00:52:00.840 Nick Fuentes

00:52:01.380 going on

00:52:01.980 at the hands

00:52:02.680 of these 15 million Jews.

00:52:04.700 Really?

00:52:04.940 See, this attitude

00:52:07.100 is why you're losing.

00:52:08.240 When you say

00:52:08.680 poor old white people,

00:52:10.360 these poor old white people,

00:52:12.780 who am I losing to?

00:52:13.660 You're seeing it.

00:52:14.240 Mass migration.

00:52:15.320 Matt, oh, you're losing to me.

00:52:16.940 We are losing

00:52:17.780 as a civilization

00:52:18.680 of mass migration.

00:52:19.760 And here's the difference.

00:52:20.980 In Israel,

00:52:22.500 they have my politics.

00:52:23.920 In Israel,

00:52:24.500 they want to maintain

00:52:25.540 a Jewish majority.

00:52:27.120 If they had it their way,

00:52:28.280 it would only be Jewish people.

00:52:30.120 They're fighting like hell

00:52:31.260 so that Jewish people

00:52:32.520 can have as much territory,

00:52:34.040 a Jewish state,

00:52:34.940 they can be proudly Jewish

00:52:36.400 in their own land.

00:52:37.500 Whereas in America,

00:52:38.540 we are being besieged

00:52:40.040 by 10 million illegal immigrants

00:52:41.920 in four years.

00:52:42.840 And then whites and Christians

00:52:44.080 are going to be the minority.

00:52:46.000 And that's true in Canada,

00:52:47.220 Australia,

00:52:48.100 all the countries in Europe.

00:52:49.400 So you could say

00:52:50.180 there's 2 billion people,

00:52:51.320 but what's the proportionality?

00:52:52.860 What is the percentage

00:52:54.100 of people being born

00:52:55.600 that are white?

00:52:56.600 Where's the arrow pointing?

00:52:57.820 Where are we going to be

00:52:58.480 in 50 years?

00:52:59.600 In 50 years,

00:53:00.700 there might be an Israel.

00:53:01.800 In 50 years,

00:53:02.460 there isn't going to be

00:53:03.320 a white Christendom.

00:53:04.040 You don't believe

00:53:05.300 people should get married, right?

00:53:08.020 I think people should get married.

00:53:09.420 I'm a Christian.

00:53:10.040 But you're basically

00:53:10.560 anti-marriage, really.

00:53:11.680 You've talked about this.

00:53:13.020 Oh, here we go.

00:53:13.900 I'm talking about white genocide

00:53:15.300 and why they're married now.

00:53:16.200 I'm coming to the same part

00:53:17.140 because you seem very resistant

00:53:18.840 to the idea of marriage.

00:53:20.080 You've never got married.

00:53:21.560 You've talked very scattingly

00:53:23.140 about hen-pained husbands.

00:53:24.640 Just take a look.

00:53:25.880 That's true.

00:53:26.260 Guys get to a certain age

00:53:27.620 and they're like,

00:53:28.180 you know what?

00:53:29.000 Women suck.

00:53:30.440 Like, they're talking too much.

00:53:32.340 They're not hot anymore.

00:53:34.100 Like, you're fat.

00:53:35.140 You're chubby.

00:53:35.740 You're not as hot

00:53:36.440 as you think you are.

00:53:37.520 You fucking talk too much.

00:53:38.920 You're a bitch.

00:53:40.680 So we'll obviously get

00:53:41.780 to the brazen misogyny part

00:53:43.320 of that a little later.

00:53:44.520 But I'm just curious.

00:53:47.380 Get back in the kitchen, woman.

00:53:48.660 There's terrible genocide

00:53:49.580 going on of white people.

00:53:51.200 On the other hand,

00:53:51.920 you want people effectively

00:53:53.600 to stop going near women

00:53:55.040 because they all turn out

00:53:56.100 to be so ghastly.

00:53:57.300 So they shouldn't presumably procreate.

00:54:00.000 So how does that work?

00:54:02.340 I mean, aren't you with your rhetoric

00:54:04.120 actively encouraging men

00:54:06.720 not to associate with these ghastly women?

00:54:10.840 I had to do it, man.

00:54:11.820 For children,

00:54:13.380 therefore you are contributing

00:54:14.360 to the diminishing white population.

00:54:19.060 I'm confused.

00:54:21.680 I tell my followers

00:54:23.280 to get married all the time.

00:54:24.800 I tell them that it's best

00:54:25.820 for everybody to get married.

00:54:27.220 And I think that's the only way

00:54:28.480 that you can have sex.

00:54:29.940 I think that's the only licit way

00:54:31.200 as a Catholic is you know

00:54:32.400 to have sex is within marriage.

00:54:33.940 Why don't you get married?

00:54:36.080 I'll get married later.

00:54:37.520 It's been difficult for me

00:54:38.700 because people are shooting

00:54:40.160 at me at my house.

00:54:41.160 I don't know that I don't want

00:54:42.860 to have kids and a wife.

00:54:44.320 You know, my wife

00:54:44.960 would be screaming about that.

00:54:46.540 Me, you know,

00:54:47.380 I have to be able to take risks

00:54:48.980 and be able to say these things.

00:54:50.740 It's difficult to bring a family

00:54:52.700 into a life that's like that.

00:54:54.280 But for my followers,

00:54:55.060 I tell them to get married.

00:54:56.640 But what's happening with women...

00:54:58.080 You literally just told your followers.

00:54:59.820 Hang on.

00:55:00.380 In that clip,

00:55:01.000 you literally told followers

00:55:02.300 women, they get old,

00:55:04.040 they get fat,

00:55:04.920 they get ugly,

00:55:06.160 they get very annoying.

00:55:07.720 So where's the incentive

00:55:09.140 to get married to women?

00:55:10.360 There isn't one.

00:55:11.660 You're actively telling them

00:55:13.340 the opposite.

00:55:13.700 You're extrapolating.

00:55:14.540 You're extrapolating a lot.

00:55:15.960 We can complain.

00:55:17.080 Just quoting you back yourself again.

00:55:18.840 No, no.

00:55:19.580 But you're extrapolating and saying,

00:55:20.940 well, you say women are annoying,

00:55:22.700 so therefore,

00:55:23.600 what's the incentive?

00:55:24.820 We have to do it

00:55:25.700 in spite of the fact

00:55:26.920 that they are annoying.

00:55:27.820 We have to do it

00:55:28.460 in spite of the fact

00:55:29.380 that they talk too much.

00:55:30.700 We can get them to lose weight.

00:55:32.140 We can put them on peptides.

00:55:33.300 Back to the kitchen.

00:55:34.040 We can get them

00:55:34.740 to the promised land.

00:55:35.800 But it's going to be

00:55:37.420 a little annoying in the meantime.

00:55:37.820 Do you think this view of women

00:55:38.580 may be why none of them

00:55:39.800 want to go near you?

00:55:41.940 Oh, you should see my DMs.

00:55:43.940 It is quite the opposite.

00:55:45.100 They're called the Groy Betts.

00:55:46.500 And I'm actually

00:55:47.480 batting them away.

00:55:48.860 Granted,

00:55:49.440 not all of them are attractive.

00:55:51.300 Some of them are attractive.

00:55:52.660 Are you actually,

00:55:53.260 just to clear up,

00:55:54.000 just to clear up

00:55:54.600 one of the many theories

00:55:55.940 about you,

00:55:56.400 I have no idea

00:55:56.980 what the answer is

00:55:57.560 and you haven't got to answer it.

00:55:58.640 But are you actually

00:55:59.600 attracted to women?

00:56:01.400 Bruh.

00:56:01.700 I am attracted to women.

00:56:03.660 You're not gay?

00:56:04.860 Bruh.

00:56:05.660 No.

00:56:06.720 But I will say

00:56:07.920 that women are very difficult

00:56:09.520 to be around.

00:56:10.460 Facts.

00:56:12.000 There's that.

00:56:12.940 And do you think

00:56:13.380 they should have the right to vote?

00:56:15.060 Hell no.

00:56:16.280 I do not.

00:56:17.120 Fuck yeah.

00:56:18.640 If you stay at home.

00:56:19.460 Yeah, I'm the marco.

00:56:21.380 Well, yeah.

00:56:23.100 Absolutely.

00:56:24.220 See, basically,

00:56:24.780 you're just a misogynist

00:56:25.740 old dinosaur.

00:56:26.240 Back to the kitchen!

00:56:27.420 For a young guy.

00:56:28.640 Coco Ponce!

00:56:29.460 I know I'm the boomer here.

00:56:31.620 But actually,

00:56:32.080 you're a 27-year-old dinosaur,

00:56:34.260 aren't you?

00:56:34.800 Aren't you, Nick Fuentes?

00:56:36.020 I am.

00:56:37.020 All women are annoying.

00:56:38.800 All women grow old.

00:56:40.140 They all get fat.

00:56:41.600 Says the guy.

00:56:42.440 Have you ever had sex?

00:56:44.680 No, absolutely not.

00:56:45.760 Wow.

00:56:46.120 Says the guy

00:56:46.620 who's never got laid.

00:56:48.420 Good one.

00:56:49.640 Wow.

00:56:49.760 That's the thing, though.

00:56:50.520 You boomers,

00:56:51.220 it's always get laid.

00:56:51.600 You think you're an expert

00:56:52.220 in women?

00:56:52.720 Free love.

00:56:53.260 Given you've never got laid?

00:56:56.260 Yeah.

00:56:56.700 We are going back

00:56:58.340 to the Stone Age.

00:56:59.260 You're absolutely right.

00:57:00.240 This, you know,

00:57:01.680 you're talking about empathy

00:57:02.960 and your kids are empathetic

00:57:04.400 and they would never laugh

00:57:05.500 at a joke about the Holocaust

00:57:06.700 and you're a misogynist.

00:57:08.240 You're a simp yourself.

00:57:09.540 You're totally hempecked.

00:57:10.760 That's the problem.

00:57:12.340 So, yeah, we are.

00:57:13.160 Let's go.

00:57:13.760 Oh, man.

00:57:17.560 A lot of women

00:57:18.100 want to be raped.

00:57:20.200 And when I say raped,

00:57:21.320 I mean, like,

00:57:22.660 that sounds bad

00:57:23.780 when I say it like that.

00:57:25.180 But there's like

00:57:25.860 a lot of women

00:57:26.520 that really want a guy

00:57:28.020 to beat the shit

00:57:29.540 out of them.

00:57:31.580 But also,

00:57:32.340 they have to pretend.

00:57:33.620 But part of it

00:57:34.360 is they have to pretend

00:57:35.000 like they don't.

00:57:36.760 You think women

00:57:37.280 want to be raped, eh?

00:57:38.100 That's what the studies

00:57:41.340 show, Piers.

00:57:42.220 That is what

00:57:42.680 these statistics say.

00:57:43.440 But that's what you believe, is it?

00:57:44.340 They have fantasies.

00:57:45.120 They have fantasies about it.

00:57:46.640 I don't think that they want

00:57:47.480 to actually get raped.

00:57:49.020 But there is a study out there.

00:57:51.100 Get ready for this.

00:57:52.560 It says 62% of women

00:57:54.400 have rape fantasies.

00:57:55.660 And if you read anything

00:57:56.580 that they're reading,

00:57:57.520 if you watched

00:57:58.300 what they're watching,

00:57:59.500 what do you think

00:57:59.980 Fifty Shades of Grey is about?

00:58:01.420 What do you think

00:58:01.800 Facts?

00:58:02.180 Facts.

00:58:02.200 Facts.

00:58:02.280 I mean, that's just true.

00:58:05.360 You think women

00:58:06.160 want to have the shit

00:58:07.040 beaten out of them,

00:58:07.760 as you said?

00:58:09.480 Yeah.

00:58:10.020 And it's very disturbing,

00:58:11.320 but it's true.

00:58:12.820 Do you think your views

00:58:13.780 on women might change

00:58:15.020 if you actually

00:58:15.840 ever had a relationship

00:58:18.180 with one or had sex

00:58:19.640 and actually had

00:58:20.040 a proper relationship?

00:58:21.580 I mean, people say

00:58:22.140 the reason you're so angry

00:58:23.220 about women is

00:58:23.900 you're basically an incel.

00:58:25.700 Bruh.

00:58:27.000 Well, I'm not angry about it.

00:58:28.540 You sound very angry.

00:58:29.560 You sound very,

00:58:30.780 very angry

00:58:31.860 about women.

00:58:33.840 I'm passionate.

00:58:35.220 It's an issue

00:58:35.860 I'm passionate about.

00:58:36.900 You're actually,

00:58:37.400 you're sounding

00:58:37.820 very bitter about women.

00:58:39.300 He's nicer about it than me.

00:58:40.540 And a terrible disservice to you.

00:58:42.280 But when?

00:58:43.040 You don't have relationships.

00:58:44.180 You don't have sex.

00:58:45.580 When are they doing

00:58:46.220 these terrible things to you

00:58:47.280 that's made you

00:58:47.780 so hateful towards women?

00:58:49.580 Put it in stores, niggas.

00:58:50.960 Back to the kitchen.

00:58:51.920 I don't think that was

00:58:52.140 a hateful clip.

00:58:53.060 I think I was laughing.

00:58:54.280 I said they want men

00:58:55.340 to beat the shit out of them.

00:58:56.620 And that's just true.

00:58:57.920 I mean,

00:58:58.200 when you look at

00:58:58.960 the state of modern women,

00:59:00.100 all they do is

00:59:02.060 lay in their bed,

00:59:03.460 doom stroll,

00:59:04.420 they're chilling out.

00:59:06.200 They're getting a little,

00:59:07.300 look,

00:59:07.600 they're getting a little fat.

00:59:08.800 It is what it is.

00:59:09.460 I don't know what the average weight is,

00:59:10.700 but they're getting a little heavy.

00:59:11.820 And any guy

00:59:13.020 that is playing the field

00:59:14.000 will tell you that.

00:59:16.300 And I know a lot of the chads.

00:59:18.960 I am an incel.

00:59:20.160 I'm friends with a lot of chads

00:59:21.380 like Bradley Martin,

00:59:22.360 Clavicular.

00:59:23.140 They agree with me.

00:59:24.880 You know,

00:59:25.160 there's sort of like

00:59:25.840 this alliance

00:59:26.440 between the guys

00:59:27.340 that don't have sex

00:59:28.340 and the guys

00:59:28.860 that get the most sex.

00:59:30.100 We know what women are about.

00:59:31.660 It's the guys in the middle.

00:59:33.560 Guys like you in the middle.

00:59:34.660 It's the beta male orbiters

00:59:36.000 that say,

00:59:36.600 she's amazing.

00:59:37.840 You're a misogynistic pig.

00:59:39.660 Because I don't know

00:59:40.800 what that is.

00:59:41.440 I guess they're desperate.

00:59:41.700 Let me explain to you

00:59:43.600 what I think it is.

00:59:44.780 I think when

00:59:45.580 a 27-year-old guy

00:59:47.120 who's never got laid,

00:59:49.040 never had a meaningful

00:59:49.940 relationship with a woman,

00:59:51.340 says that women

00:59:51.880 shouldn't be allowed to vote,

00:59:53.260 they should stay at home,

00:59:55.200 that all they do

00:59:56.500 is fantasize

00:59:57.400 about being raped

00:59:58.300 and being beaten up.

00:59:59.360 That's what they want.

01:00:00.680 That they're annoying.

01:00:02.140 That they get fat.

01:00:03.400 That they get ugly.

01:00:05.380 That's a misogynist.

01:00:06.700 Now, you may not understand it

01:00:08.300 because your knowledge of women

01:00:09.660 is so incredibly tiny.

01:00:12.360 But actually,

01:00:13.180 you are the embodiment

01:00:14.640 of a misogynist.

01:00:15.840 It couldn't be clearer.

01:00:17.640 And if I was...

01:00:19.080 You know, in a way,

01:00:20.440 you have the deep-rooted misogyny

01:00:22.100 of some of the actual boomers

01:00:23.980 I know.

01:00:24.780 Yet here you are,

01:00:25.800 27 years old.

01:00:27.360 And most of the current studies

01:00:28.920 show that a lot of men

01:00:30.620 are really disenfranchised

01:00:32.680 from society,

01:00:33.820 no longer have physical relationships

01:00:35.480 with women

01:00:36.420 if they've ever had them,

01:00:38.120 never associate with women,

01:00:39.380 and build up

01:00:40.340 instinctively

01:00:41.940 misogynist views

01:00:42.960 about women.

01:00:43.980 And I fear

01:00:45.260 you're in that position.

01:00:46.700 You're just a bit

01:00:47.260 of a lonely guy

01:00:48.180 who wants to get laid.

01:00:50.160 You can't

01:00:50.920 for whatever reason.

01:00:52.720 And it's made you

01:00:53.660 bitter about women.

01:00:55.020 And I don't know

01:00:55.600 where that's come from,

01:00:57.200 but it's fascinating.

01:00:59.440 No.

01:01:00.180 See,

01:01:00.620 here's the thing.

01:01:01.280 First of all,

01:01:02.080 you're very caught up

01:01:03.000 in the labels.

01:01:03.640 It's always,

01:01:04.360 you're a racist,

01:01:06.260 you're a misogynist.

01:01:07.280 You said you were a racist.

01:01:07.920 I mean, these words mean nothing to me.

01:01:09.120 Hang on, whoa.

01:01:10.060 Can I respond?

01:01:10.600 You gave yourself the label.

01:01:12.320 What is this?

01:01:12.960 You said,

01:01:13.540 I am a racist.

01:01:15.100 I didn't give you the label.

01:01:16.960 You said,

01:01:17.620 Nick Fuentes,

01:01:18.600 I am a racist.

01:01:19.700 Calm down.

01:01:20.860 Calm down.

01:01:21.340 Did you or didn't you?

01:01:22.240 It's okay.

01:01:22.800 Did you?

01:01:24.160 Yeah.

01:01:24.680 Okay.

01:01:25.240 But here's the thing.

01:01:26.020 I didn't give you the label.

01:01:27.060 You did.

01:01:28.280 Why are you yelling at me?

01:01:29.940 Because you're trying to infer

01:01:31.200 something that didn't happen.

01:01:32.700 You said I gave you the label

01:01:34.620 of being a racist.

01:01:35.720 No, you did.

01:01:37.300 You said,

01:01:38.000 I'm a racist.

01:01:39.440 You gave yourself a label.

01:01:42.040 You're going to have to

01:01:42.780 tone it down a little.

01:01:44.700 All right.

01:01:44.960 You're going to have to bring it

01:01:45.640 down a notch and relax.

01:01:46.780 Bro, it's triggered.

01:01:48.140 Okay, please calm down.

01:01:49.760 All I said is you're hung up.

01:01:51.900 I didn't say you gave me that.

01:01:53.520 Maybe I did.

01:01:54.300 You did.

01:01:54.600 But here's what I mean.

01:01:55.580 What I mean is,

01:01:56.380 okay,

01:01:57.020 what I mean is you're just hung up

01:01:58.460 on proving you're,

01:01:59.900 okay, you're a misogynist.

01:02:00.940 Okay, you're a racist.

01:02:01.760 Okay, you denied the Holocaust.

01:02:03.400 And I'm just,

01:02:04.300 I'm not about the labels, man.

01:02:06.320 You didn't deny the Holocaust.

01:02:06.900 I'm just past that.

01:02:07.740 As I said to you,

01:02:08.480 look, Nick,

01:02:08.940 as I said to you,

01:02:10.200 I just wanted to go over the stuff

01:02:11.680 that you know everyone uses

01:02:13.180 out there about you

01:02:14.100 and get you to respond.

01:02:15.980 And we're getting,

01:02:16.720 we are getting,

01:02:17.560 I think,

01:02:18.320 a long way in this interview.

01:02:20.180 Okay.

01:02:20.840 You didn't deny the Holocaust.

01:02:22.680 You accepted there's been

01:02:23.680 a Holocaust

01:02:24.080 of at least six million Jews.

01:02:26.080 I'm a maximalist.

01:02:27.600 I'm a Holocaust.

01:02:28.240 That is significant.

01:02:29.600 I think it's more.

01:02:30.740 You did admit,

01:02:31.280 you're a racist.

01:02:32.160 It's overnight.

01:02:32.920 And you have to send out

01:02:34.240 a thought process about women,

01:02:35.880 which is the purest definition

01:02:37.340 of misogyny

01:02:38.400 that I've ever seen.

01:02:40.360 And you've said you're not gay.

01:02:41.820 We're getting somewhere.

01:02:43.780 Yeah.

01:02:44.520 Well,

01:02:44.940 look,

01:02:45.440 and I own the labels,

01:02:46.660 okay,

01:02:47.040 but I just don't care

01:02:48.240 that much about them.

01:02:49.120 That's fine.

01:02:49.580 I feel like the whole,

01:02:50.420 this is like a weird...

01:02:52.100 I'm not saying you have to care.

01:02:53.440 Nick,

01:02:53.960 you don't have to care

01:02:55.020 about any of it.

01:02:56.560 I promise you.

01:02:57.580 Right?

01:02:57.800 That's not why I got you

01:02:58.700 on the show.

01:02:59.900 I wanted to give you

01:03:00.800 a fair crack,

01:03:01.600 which I think I had.

01:03:02.760 We've gone over

01:03:03.440 a lot of stuff.

01:03:04.240 I agree.

01:03:04.780 We've got a bit more

01:03:05.460 to go on.

01:03:06.280 I genuinely don't think

01:03:07.680 I've ambushed you

01:03:08.340 with anything you couldn't

01:03:09.060 have been expecting.

01:03:09.760 No.

01:03:10.160 I don't think I've been

01:03:10.960 overly hostile.

01:03:11.780 In fact,

01:03:12.360 when you've asked me

01:03:13.040 to calm down,

01:03:13.880 I've calmed down.

01:03:14.920 I don't want to have

01:03:15.620 a hostile,

01:03:16.880 angry,

01:03:17.440 shouty match with you.

01:03:18.660 I simply want you

01:03:19.760 to spell out exactly

01:03:21.260 what you've meant

01:03:21.840 about all these things

01:03:22.620 and people can then

01:03:23.720 be the judge of them.

01:03:24.720 So let's take another break

01:03:25.720 and we'll come back

01:03:26.700 and talk about

01:03:27.400 Donald Trump,

01:03:28.420 Tucker Carlson,

01:03:29.660 Candace Owens,

01:03:30.700 and others.

01:03:34.980 All right.

01:03:35.460 So,

01:03:35.800 yeah,

01:03:37.460 guys,

01:03:37.880 hoodie in stores,

01:03:38.420 back to the kitchen.

01:03:39.420 I had to put this shit on

01:03:40.280 once they started talking

01:03:41.080 about the ladies, man.

01:03:42.040 Also, guys,

01:03:43.120 jump into OSS,

01:03:43.960 only a dollar to join.

01:03:46.560 It's Liddy, guys.

01:03:47.520 It's absolutely Liddy.

01:03:48.240 Get in there.

01:03:49.220 But no,

01:03:49.520 this interview is hilarious, bro.

01:03:51.180 It really is.

01:03:51.860 This is like

01:03:52.540 pretty fucking awesome.

01:03:55.940 Guys,

01:03:56.320 I'm going to put the code

01:03:57.040 here for you guys.

01:03:57.840 It's only a dollar to join.

01:04:00.020 Join the OSS

01:04:00.980 if he's going to

01:04:01.740 shill his fucking thing.

01:04:02.800 At least let me give you guys

01:04:03.560 some real value here.

01:04:06.880 So,

01:04:07.480 yeah,

01:04:08.200 this interview is hilarious.

01:04:11.460 Yeah,

01:04:12.080 jump in, guys.

01:04:14.360 Oh, yeah,

01:04:14.900 and this is at

01:04:15.700 the MyronGainesXStore.com.

01:04:17.460 It's on the description, guys.

01:04:18.520 Myron,

01:04:18.940 it's,

01:04:19.500 uh,

01:04:21.040 uh,

01:04:21.640 what is it?

01:04:23.700 MyronGainesX.store.

01:04:27.640 All right,

01:04:28.240 we're back.

01:04:32.060 Team,

01:04:32.640 the same year as Trump

01:04:33.660 was inaugurated

01:04:34.980 for his first term

01:04:36.000 in office,

01:04:36.760 you supported him

01:04:38.000 at that time,

01:04:39.200 but you've grown

01:04:40.000 increasingly disillusioned,

01:04:41.420 I think it'd be fair to say.

01:04:42.720 Let's play a recent clip

01:04:43.860 from you about Trump.

01:04:44.680 We played this game

01:04:47.480 in the first term.

01:04:48.840 We're 10 years in,

01:04:50.900 and you still have

01:04:51.840 these people,

01:04:52.640 I hate to say it,

01:04:53.740 but they're just,

01:04:54.360 like,

01:04:54.480 in denial,

01:04:55.440 and they're like,

01:04:56.540 okay, everybody,

01:04:57.920 let's all go on Twitter

01:04:59.440 and let's tell Trump

01:05:01.000 don't screw over

01:05:02.520 your voters.

01:05:04.240 Okay,

01:05:05.500 hey, Trump,

01:05:06.640 don't hire

01:05:07.260 John Ratcliffe

01:05:08.340 and the CIA.

01:05:09.440 Like,

01:05:09.720 what are we doing?

01:05:10.960 It's,

01:05:11.480 we lost,

01:05:12.420 it's over.

01:05:12.980 The time to make demands

01:05:14.760 was during the election

01:05:16.180 when he needed the votes.

01:05:18.060 He's a lame-dub president

01:05:19.520 and he doesn't need

01:05:20.240 anything from us.

01:05:21.440 He's not even on Twitter.

01:05:23.000 He's on Truth Social.

01:05:24.980 So what are you talking about?

01:05:26.540 We're going to all rally

01:05:27.700 and tell them

01:05:28.440 don't hire

01:05:29.480 yet another neocon?

01:05:32.020 Now,

01:05:32.620 over the weekend,

01:05:33.300 you posted this on X.

01:05:35.580 You said,

01:05:36.320 performative cruelty

01:05:37.300 is the perfect phrase

01:05:38.580 to characterize

01:05:39.140 the Trump admin

01:05:39.920 and the mood

01:05:40.820 of the MAGA movement.

01:05:41.700 In order to compensate

01:05:42.820 for his compromises

01:05:43.820 and failures,

01:05:44.900 Trump has to fall back

01:05:45.840 on mean-spiritedness

01:05:47.000 to appeal to

01:05:47.960 the basest instincts

01:05:49.880 of its followers.

01:05:51.020 It's really sad.

01:05:51.760 I mean,

01:05:51.980 do you think you're

01:05:52.440 the best person,

01:05:53.320 Nick Puentes,

01:05:53.880 to lecture people

01:05:55.260 about performative cruelty?

01:05:58.500 Why?

01:05:59.040 Are you accusing me

01:05:59.880 of being cruel?

01:06:00.720 Is that what that is?

01:06:01.680 Yeah.

01:06:03.440 Bruh.

01:06:03.800 How am I cruel?

01:06:05.260 You're cruel

01:06:06.220 about black people?

01:06:07.780 You're cruel

01:06:08.480 about women?

01:06:10.460 You're stupid.

01:06:12.080 I get very performative.

01:06:13.440 Okay.

01:06:14.240 I don't think

01:06:14.840 I'm performative.

01:06:15.840 If anything,

01:06:16.640 everyone else

01:06:17.120 is performative.

01:06:17.980 I'm authentic.

01:06:19.380 You know,

01:06:19.540 whatever you want

01:06:20.000 to say about me,

01:06:20.880 it's real.

01:06:21.700 It's from the gut.

01:06:22.580 But yes,

01:06:23.040 I do think

01:06:23.520 it's performative.

01:06:24.500 And what I mean

01:06:25.020 by that is,

01:06:26.340 you know,

01:06:27.060 when they're doing

01:06:28.100 the deportations,

01:06:29.340 they know

01:06:30.040 the deportations

01:06:31.060 are not where

01:06:32.120 the base

01:06:32.780 wants them to be.

01:06:33.800 They deported.

01:06:34.760 The figures are disputed,

01:06:35.920 but from my data,

01:06:37.280 it's 300,000

01:06:38.400 in the year,

01:06:38.960 which is not

01:06:39.480 a massive deportation.

01:06:41.020 They know

01:06:41.600 the base is unhappy

01:06:42.640 with that.

01:06:43.160 So what do they do?

01:06:44.080 The deportations

01:06:45.280 that they are carrying out,

01:06:46.900 they do a big spectacle

01:06:48.420 and they arrest everybody

01:06:50.040 and they film it

01:06:50.880 and they put a hype at it

01:06:52.040 and there's a meanness

01:06:53.580 in there.

01:06:53.980 They played that song,

01:06:55.700 I think,

01:06:56.080 from Sabrina Carpenter

01:06:57.060 or something,

01:06:58.140 and they make it a joke.

01:06:59.100 They make it glib.

01:06:59.920 And they do that

01:07:00.580 because they're not

01:07:01.840 delivering on the promise,

01:07:03.040 so they compensate

01:07:04.400 by doing it meaner,

01:07:06.120 edgier,

01:07:07.140 more mean-spirited

01:07:08.840 so that the base

01:07:10.200 will overlook

01:07:11.020 the fact that

01:07:11.900 it's not happening.

01:07:12.840 And I think that's

01:07:13.880 by definition

01:07:14.500 performative cruelty.

01:07:15.580 You can call me a hypocrite,

01:07:16.920 but it's definitely true

01:07:18.160 about what they're doing

01:07:18.900 in the administration.

01:07:19.860 You went to see Trump

01:07:20.880 at Mar-a-Lago

01:07:21.440 with Ye for dinner.

01:07:23.660 What was that like?

01:07:25.880 It was very interesting.

01:07:27.700 They're my two heroes.

01:07:28.920 Ye is my hero.

01:07:30.300 Trump is my hero.

01:07:31.440 Even though he's

01:07:33.000 very disappointing,

01:07:34.080 he's still a personal

01:07:35.080 hero of mine.

01:07:36.300 And he's a remarkable person.

01:07:37.600 It was a great conversation.

01:07:38.840 We got along pretty well.

01:07:39.920 He liked me.

01:07:40.600 I liked him.

01:07:41.760 It was a love fest.

01:07:43.300 I mean,

01:07:43.520 he got attacked afterwards

01:07:44.540 for supping

01:07:46.040 with the white supremacist devil.

01:07:48.540 I mean,

01:07:48.740 do you accept

01:07:49.660 you are a white supremacist?

01:07:51.940 No, no,

01:07:52.780 absolutely not.

01:07:53.500 The white nationalists.

01:07:54.520 Big difference.

01:07:55.260 You don't think white people

01:07:55.760 are superior to black people?

01:07:58.200 No, I'm a Christian,

01:07:59.320 so I believe everybody

01:08:00.420 is equal before God.

01:08:02.340 Including women?

01:08:03.800 No.

01:08:04.720 Yes.

01:08:05.720 So you give women

01:08:06.600 equal rights then?

01:08:07.780 Nope.

01:08:09.080 No.

01:08:10.060 Let's go.

01:08:10.880 Great.

01:08:11.240 Okay, so you just

01:08:12.240 talked a little bit of bullshit,

01:08:13.400 didn't you?

01:08:14.780 No.

01:08:15.440 What is,

01:08:16.100 why are you like mad about this?

01:08:18.020 No.

01:08:18.340 Bro, he's talking human value.

01:08:20.200 Human value, retard.

01:08:22.200 Women have equal human value,

01:08:24.620 but we are different.

01:08:25.880 Two genders?

01:08:26.540 It's your view.

01:08:27.020 Do you think there's two genders?

01:08:28.220 I do think there are two genders,

01:08:29.500 yes.

01:08:30.220 Okay,

01:08:30.720 and so you mean

01:08:31.580 there's distinction?

01:08:32.700 There are two distinct genders?

01:08:34.640 I think we should all have...

01:08:35.580 And I would argue

01:08:36.280 women are more vulnerable,

01:08:37.380 so you have to take care of them

01:08:38.220 even more so.

01:08:39.160 This dude is trying to be an idiot.

01:08:41.680 The same right.

01:08:42.940 Do you think the Catholic Church's

01:08:44.780 teachings reflect that?

01:08:47.040 I do.

01:08:47.880 Yeah,

01:08:48.140 there's no female priests.

01:08:49.720 Have you ever seen that?

01:08:50.780 Do you think

01:08:51.320 that the Catholic Church

01:08:52.360 thinks all women

01:08:53.080 should be deprived of the vote?

01:08:54.940 Yes.

01:08:56.160 Yeah,

01:08:56.560 I think so.

01:08:57.320 That's how it's always been,

01:08:58.320 bro.

01:08:59.460 I think they do,

01:09:00.280 yeah.

01:09:01.000 You think the Catholic Church position

01:09:02.660 is women shouldn't be allowed

01:09:03.680 to vote?

01:09:05.240 Yes.

01:09:05.820 I think so,

01:09:06.660 yeah.

01:09:06.760 For sure.

01:09:07.760 No,

01:09:07.960 it's bullshit.

01:09:08.720 Like every other religion

01:09:09.720 of the book.

01:09:10.960 It should be.

01:09:11.200 So if you were Pope,

01:09:11.920 that's what you'd do.

01:09:12.600 You could be Pope

01:09:13.320 because you're a celibate.

01:09:15.860 Good one.

01:09:16.480 That's true.

01:09:17.360 And I'm also from Chicago,

01:09:18.960 like the Pope,

01:09:19.580 but look,

01:09:20.020 I mean,

01:09:20.260 women,

01:09:20.760 it says in the Bible

01:09:21.760 that women have no authority

01:09:22.920 over men

01:09:23.480 and they can't teach men

01:09:24.640 and that's why

01:09:25.060 there's no female priests.

01:09:26.260 So there's a lot of things

01:09:26.860 in the Bible.

01:09:27.680 I mean,

01:09:27.920 do you think

01:09:28.280 you take every word

01:09:29.120 of the Bible

01:09:29.540 as sacrosanct?

01:09:32.320 Well,

01:09:32.760 yeah,

01:09:32.940 it's inspired scripture.

01:09:35.400 That's all of it.

01:09:36.240 Is this now

01:09:36.800 a theological debate?

01:09:39.260 Well,

01:09:39.520 it is Catholic doctrine

01:09:41.700 that women should not

01:09:42.780 lead and teach.

01:09:43.800 I mean,

01:09:43.960 you're not interacting

01:09:44.840 with what I'm saying.

01:09:45.660 Why can't women be priests?

01:09:47.580 They should be.

01:09:49.440 Okay,

01:09:49.940 well,

01:09:50.100 many things

01:09:53.820 I disagree

01:09:54.160 with the Catholic Church.

01:09:55.200 What?

01:09:56.140 Fuck!

01:09:56.380 Well,

01:09:56.420 that kind of is contrary

01:09:57.420 because the whole

01:09:58.020 basis of being Catholic

01:09:59.520 is accepting,

01:10:00.660 yes,

01:10:01.080 it's accepting

01:10:01.440 the ability of the pontiff.

01:10:02.820 You can be a member

01:10:03.580 of a religion

01:10:03.920 and disagree

01:10:04.740 with parts of that religion.

01:10:06.020 Get the fuck out of here,

01:10:06.960 nigga.

01:10:07.200 It's perfectly reasonable.

01:10:08.780 You could be,

01:10:09.400 well,

01:10:09.700 yeah,

01:10:09.860 I mean,

01:10:10.100 you could see that

01:10:11.160 but it wouldn't be true.

01:10:12.600 You're an extremist,

01:10:13.300 you can't,

01:10:13.620 obviously,

01:10:14.000 you never deviate.

01:10:14.620 That's just not rigged.

01:10:15.260 Hold out,

01:10:15.780 Pierce.

01:10:16.100 You're an extremist.

01:10:17.120 You officially lost.

01:10:17.920 That's just sloppy.

01:10:18.620 Even the Constitution

01:10:19.460 has been amended,

01:10:20.260 was it 27 times?

01:10:21.680 People talk about this.

01:10:22.320 Official L.

01:10:23.140 That was easy.

01:10:23.980 Mended 27 times.

01:10:25.700 Official L.

01:10:26.600 That was easy.

01:10:27.920 Intellectually,

01:10:28.420 this is very,

01:10:29.060 this is tabloid.

01:10:29.740 Just a statement of fact.

01:10:31.280 Theology,

01:10:32.100 okay,

01:10:32.720 but it's fine.

01:10:33.880 Where were we?

01:10:34.560 We were talking about Trump

01:10:35.640 and somehow we got into

01:10:36.820 your white knighting

01:10:37.840 for women's rights.

01:10:38.820 Bro.

01:10:39.220 I think women should have

01:10:40.320 the same rights as you and I.

01:10:41.440 You don't.

01:10:41.920 That's fine.

01:10:42.140 You stupid.

01:10:42.700 Put on the pink hat, bro.

01:10:44.060 Put on the pink hat.

01:10:44.780 Yeah, seriously.

01:10:45.740 What's the pink hat for?

01:10:46.820 For the march,

01:10:49.000 for the women's march.

01:10:49.840 Are we going to see you

01:10:50.480 at the women's march

01:10:51.300 protesting for women's rights

01:10:52.720 and all that?

01:10:53.360 I think women should have

01:10:54.240 equal rights to men.

01:10:55.660 Period.

01:10:55.980 You carry tampons

01:10:56.880 in case your female friends

01:10:58.160 get a period or something?

01:10:59.380 Like,

01:10:59.720 it's crazy.

01:11:01.180 The white knighting is

01:11:02.300 diabolical.

01:11:02.320 I'd have no problem

01:11:02.960 giving a female friend

01:11:03.960 a tampon,

01:11:04.580 would you?

01:11:05.140 Have you ever...

01:11:05.880 I don't suppose

01:11:06.300 you've ever seen a tampon.

01:11:08.940 Gross.

01:11:09.620 Absolutely not.

01:11:10.680 Get that away from me.

01:11:11.380 You think tampons are gross?

01:11:13.760 Yeah.

01:11:14.340 Yeah.

01:11:14.760 Period blood.

01:11:15.640 Yeah, it's kind of gross.

01:11:16.760 Wow.

01:11:17.360 Are you into that?

01:11:18.220 You like that?

01:11:19.340 Have you ever seen it?

01:11:19.860 A lot of tampons?

01:11:20.480 I don't think you've ever seen it.

01:11:23.420 I've seen them.

01:11:24.380 I've seen them before.

01:11:25.380 You've been that close

01:11:26.040 to a woman?

01:11:26.800 Really?

01:11:28.200 No, I've seen them.

01:11:29.780 Look, I used to live

01:11:31.540 with women

01:11:31.960 so I've seen them

01:11:32.560 around the house.

01:11:32.820 I bet you've seen videos,

01:11:33.900 haven't you?

01:11:35.000 Bruh.

01:11:35.500 What?

01:11:36.700 What are we doing here?

01:11:37.940 Yeah.

01:11:38.420 I'm not sure.

01:11:39.100 You really hate them.

01:11:39.780 I'm not sure.

01:11:40.340 You're more impressed

01:11:41.220 that I'm a misogynist

01:11:42.580 than you are about anything.

01:11:43.960 Yeah.

01:11:45.160 I'm actually more exercised

01:11:47.280 about your blatant,

01:11:48.840 self-admitted racism

01:11:49.840 than I'm about anything.

01:11:52.760 But the misogyny

01:11:53.400 runs a close second.

01:11:54.760 Let me ask you

01:11:55.380 about Tucker Carlson

01:11:56.180 because you had

01:11:56.640 a long sit-down with...

01:11:57.700 I guess he doesn't like

01:11:58.360 that effect.

01:11:59.400 Oddly, I like Tucker.

01:12:00.380 We got him.

01:12:00.820 I was with him.

01:12:01.540 Last week in London.

01:12:02.580 But he gave me

01:12:03.700 a harder time

01:12:04.300 than he gives you.

01:12:05.800 And then afterwards,

01:12:06.640 he was more critical.

01:12:08.340 And then you said

01:12:09.320 this about Tucker.

01:12:12.160 He's a handler.

01:12:13.340 He handles people.

01:12:14.800 That's what he does.

01:12:16.320 He's a fucking liar

01:12:17.840 and a handler.

01:12:19.060 He goes...

01:12:19.400 Oh, Pierce is about

01:12:20.280 to try to slide

01:12:21.260 for Tucker now.

01:12:23.720 Pierce is about

01:12:24.280 to slide for Tucker

01:12:25.140 right now.

01:12:25.660 Here we go.

01:12:26.420 This tourist,

01:12:27.180 I just traveled

01:12:27.880 to all these countries

01:12:28.960 and, you know...

01:12:29.960 Here we go.

01:12:32.800 I don't trust him.

01:12:34.220 And I don't care,

01:12:35.800 you know,

01:12:37.060 maybe that alien...

01:12:38.000 Pierce and Tucker

01:12:38.560 are friends, guys.

01:12:40.880 I'm not going to be

01:12:41.260 a part of it.

01:12:42.620 I'm not going to be

01:12:43.460 a party to whatever

01:12:44.380 that is.

01:12:44.940 Whatever that CIA

01:12:45.980 bullshit is,

01:12:47.100 I'm not going to be

01:12:47.740 a part of it.

01:12:50.960 So...

01:12:51.440 Now that I've heard

01:12:54.660 enough from Tucker

01:12:55.660 and I've heard enough

01:12:56.500 from other people

01:12:57.400 and I've seen enough,

01:12:58.840 this guy's not

01:12:59.540 who he says he is.

01:13:00.740 Not an ally.

01:13:01.840 Stay the fuck away

01:13:02.600 from me.

01:13:03.100 You're weird, dude.

01:13:04.300 You're weird.

01:13:05.560 See, what would have

01:13:06.340 been great is if you'd

01:13:07.300 said that to him

01:13:08.040 when you were

01:13:08.420 sitting opposite him.

01:13:11.060 Well, when I was

01:13:12.200 sitting opposite him

01:13:13.320 at the dinner

01:13:14.100 and in the interview,

01:13:15.220 he was nothing but nice.

01:13:16.580 He was very nice to me

01:13:18.120 and very cordial

01:13:19.100 and he didn't call me

01:13:19.980 an anti-Semite

01:13:20.980 and he didn't even

01:13:21.980 press me on it at all

01:13:23.440 and I thought he would

01:13:24.420 and I almost wanted him to.

01:13:26.160 He was nothing but nice

01:13:27.500 and we had a great time.

01:13:29.120 We had a really great dinner,

01:13:30.260 really great interview

01:13:31.020 and I felt really good about it

01:13:33.040 and the next week

01:13:33.780 on my show,

01:13:34.480 I said,

01:13:34.860 he really surprised me.

01:13:36.100 He's great.

01:13:37.060 And then,

01:13:38.260 every interview

01:13:39.160 he's done since,

01:13:40.320 all he does

01:13:40.860 is call me an anti-Semite.

01:13:42.260 He goes,

01:13:42.660 well, I hate his anti-Semitism

01:13:44.140 and, you know,

01:13:45.220 I wonder why people like him

01:13:46.900 and so I just think

01:13:48.140 that's two-faced.

01:13:48.860 So, after that experience,

01:13:50.700 it kind of turned me off.

01:13:52.200 I didn't like that

01:13:52.980 but he's going to do

01:13:53.900 what he's going to do.

01:13:54.780 He's still a nice guy

01:13:55.640 but I think he's two-faced.

01:13:57.540 What about Candice Owens?

01:13:59.460 Oh.

01:14:00.380 You had a sit-down with her.

01:14:01.460 There we go.

01:14:02.280 She called you out

01:14:03.040 on a few of your

01:14:03.760 more incendiary comments.

01:14:05.460 You've been attacking her

01:14:06.480 quite virulently recently.

01:14:10.040 What's going on there?

01:14:11.040 Well, you know,

01:14:14.820 it's me and her.

01:14:15.580 We're so complicated.

01:14:16.640 We're on and off.

01:14:18.200 It's very passionate

01:14:19.380 on both sides.

01:14:21.800 I think there's this

01:14:22.900 intense desire

01:14:23.980 to be friends

01:14:25.500 but a frustration

01:14:27.780 where we disagree

01:14:28.640 with each other.

01:14:29.500 There's a rivalry

01:14:30.280 but I thought we were going

01:14:32.940 to have a friendly conversation

01:14:34.160 and then she kind of

01:14:34.900 did the same thing.

01:14:36.340 We're going to go on a show

01:14:37.700 during the war with Iran.

01:14:39.400 We're literally in the middle

01:14:40.620 of a war

01:14:41.180 and she texted me

01:14:42.200 the day before

01:14:42.820 the United States

01:14:43.560 bombed Fort O

01:14:44.560 and she said,

01:14:45.600 would you like to come

01:14:46.280 on my show?

01:14:46.940 I said, absolutely.

01:14:48.220 I said, is this going

01:14:48.960 to be about Iran?

01:14:49.840 She goes, I don't do setups.

01:14:51.920 I said, yeah, let's do it.

01:14:53.440 I come on the show

01:14:54.440 and then she's like

01:14:56.200 got this weird

01:14:57.220 hostile demeanor.

01:14:58.360 She's doing the clip thing.

01:14:59.740 Then she puts it

01:15:00.580 behind a paywall.

01:15:01.840 It was ridiculous.

01:15:03.080 So that really

01:15:03.940 was not nice.

01:15:06.280 And then I think

01:15:06.840 this whole Charlie Kirk thing,

01:15:07.980 I think she's gone insane.

01:15:09.400 I think she's absolutely

01:15:10.320 lost her mind.

01:15:12.840 So I feel sorry

01:15:14.000 for her husband.

01:15:15.400 What did you feel

01:15:16.340 when Charlie Kirk

01:15:17.200 was assassinated?

01:15:18.560 Where were you

01:15:19.360 when you heard about it?

01:15:21.520 I was at my house

01:15:22.900 and a friend of mine

01:15:24.380 who was actually

01:15:25.080 at the event

01:15:25.660 texted me

01:15:26.400 and said,

01:15:27.120 Charlie got shot.

01:15:28.140 I said, who?

01:15:28.680 He said, Charlie Kirk.

01:15:29.660 I said, oh my gosh,

01:15:30.420 that's terrible.

01:15:31.020 And honestly,

01:15:31.900 it was devastating.

01:15:33.000 I didn't like Charlie Kirk

01:15:34.480 at all.

01:15:35.320 And we had an intense rivalry

01:15:36.760 and he hated me.

01:15:38.280 But honest to God,

01:15:39.380 I was devastated.

01:15:40.240 I was emotionally

01:15:40.920 affected by it.

01:15:41.900 I didn't even do a show

01:15:42.740 that night

01:15:43.280 because I was beside myself.

01:15:45.560 So it was rough.

01:15:46.700 I mean, it was hard to watch.

01:15:48.900 When you say

01:15:49.400 you were beside yourself,

01:15:50.360 I mean, you hated him.

01:15:53.400 I don't hate anybody.

01:15:54.900 I didn't hate him,

01:15:55.780 but I really didn't like him.

01:15:57.960 I intensely disliked him

01:15:59.480 and I did agree with him.

01:16:00.380 He called you vermin,

01:16:01.120 didn't he?

01:16:02.140 He did.

01:16:02.960 Yeah, he hated me also.

01:16:05.540 But you were still

01:16:06.240 beside yourself

01:16:06.920 when you heard

01:16:07.320 what happened to him.

01:16:08.760 I was.

01:16:09.580 I was.

01:16:10.040 I thought it was

01:16:10.740 disgusting what was done

01:16:12.340 to him

01:16:12.660 and it was tragic

01:16:13.540 and it was horrifying.

01:16:16.080 Do you fear

01:16:16.980 an attack like that

01:16:18.440 on yourself

01:16:19.040 if you up your own security

01:16:20.560 because of this?

01:16:21.740 Because your profile

01:16:22.900 has got it exponentially

01:16:23.920 higher since

01:16:24.760 what happened to Charlie Kirk?

01:16:26.280 I have.

01:16:28.520 I have increased my security

01:16:30.280 and but, you know,

01:16:31.520 something similar

01:16:32.180 like that happened to me.

01:16:33.440 Someone came to my house

01:16:34.400 with a gun

01:16:35.000 about a year ago

01:16:36.160 almost exactly

01:16:37.000 trying to kill me

01:16:38.200 and he was shot

01:16:38.940 and killed in my alleyway.

01:16:40.640 So I've had

01:16:41.780 increased security

01:16:42.640 for a while.

01:16:43.460 It's a bad time out there

01:16:44.840 and I do believe

01:16:45.700 it was a left-wing person

01:16:46.700 that killed him.

01:16:47.700 I think it was a left-wing person

01:16:48.860 that tried to kill me.

01:16:50.200 So, yeah,

01:16:50.860 I take it very seriously.

01:16:52.620 Elon Musk

01:16:53.480 said on his X platform

01:16:55.940 that you're a Fed,

01:16:57.540 you're a paid-up

01:16:58.700 hire of the government.

01:17:00.300 Is that true?

01:17:01.760 No.

01:17:05.260 You've never worked

01:17:06.160 for the government

01:17:06.620 in any capacity?

01:17:08.180 I've never talked

01:17:09.120 to federal law enforcement

01:17:10.400 and actually

01:17:11.240 I've testified

01:17:11.820 to that fact

01:17:12.720 under oath

01:17:13.440 when I was subpoenaed

01:17:14.620 by the Congress.

01:17:15.360 People leave that part out

01:17:16.440 but I got subpoenaed

01:17:17.900 I think in January 2022,

01:17:20.260 I think it was,

01:17:21.960 and I was deposed

01:17:23.960 by the subcommittee,

01:17:24.980 the House Select Subcommittee

01:17:26.300 on January 6th

01:17:27.460 and they asked me,

01:17:28.300 did you speak

01:17:29.100 with any federal law enforcement

01:17:30.500 and under oath,

01:17:31.440 I said no,

01:17:32.200 I've never had contact

01:17:33.120 with them,

01:17:33.680 I've never turned over devices.

01:17:36.340 I made a whole video

01:17:37.160 on this guys

01:17:37.700 if you want to watch it

01:17:38.500 on why it's retarded

01:17:39.960 to say Nick is a Fed

01:17:40.940 at the January the 6th

01:17:42.980 from an actual Fed.

01:17:44.220 It appears we are taking

01:17:46.820 the Capitol back.

01:17:55.540 Keep marching

01:17:56.740 and don't relax,

01:17:58.300 never relax.

01:17:59.760 Putting down the barriers

01:18:01.280 and disregard the police.

01:18:03.220 This Capitol belongs to us.

01:18:05.020 The police are evacuating

01:18:09.180 the Capitol.

01:18:10.400 The Capitol.

01:18:11.340 The Capitol.

01:18:13.340 The Capitol.

01:18:15.340 The politicians

01:18:16.080 will last story

01:18:18.180 out of the people's house.

01:18:20.180 Yeah.

01:18:23.060 You're heard there

01:18:24.480 shouting down your loud hailer,

01:18:26.820 break down the barriers

01:18:27.820 and disregard the police.

01:18:29.680 The Capitol belongs to us now.

01:18:32.040 What did you mean by that?

01:18:34.960 I think it's pretty

01:18:35.880 self-explanatory.

01:18:37.080 The Capitol belongs

01:18:37.900 to the people.

01:18:39.880 Disregard the police.

01:18:40.880 You don't support

01:18:41.940 law and order.

01:18:45.500 No, I support law and order,

01:18:47.220 but on that day,

01:18:48.680 the police were brutal.

01:18:50.800 The police killed somebody,

01:18:51.820 Ashley Babbitt.

01:18:53.440 And, you know,

01:18:54.740 they were throwing people

01:18:55.660 off of the rafters.

01:18:56.900 They killed multiple people.

01:18:58.780 So...

01:18:59.140 Disregarding the police

01:19:00.200 is the first step

01:19:01.920 to anarchy, isn't it?

01:19:04.800 Well, I think

01:19:05.540 the first step to anarchy

01:19:06.580 is when the government

01:19:07.480 rigs the election,

01:19:08.800 which is what happened.

01:19:09.860 That is when the government

01:19:10.920 loses its legitimacy

01:19:12.040 and its enforcers,

01:19:13.720 consequently, do also.

01:19:15.520 Because that's exactly

01:19:16.160 what happened in 2020.

01:19:17.360 There is no evidence

01:19:18.200 the government rigged

01:19:18.940 the election.

01:19:19.700 You know that.

01:19:20.600 You're a bright guy.

01:19:21.340 Well, let's talk about it.

01:19:23.600 You want to talk about

01:19:24.380 the election of 2020?

01:19:25.780 Yeah.

01:19:26.320 I think Trump lost it fair and square.

01:19:27.980 I think he fought

01:19:29.060 the wrong argument

01:19:29.880 about the stolen election.

01:19:31.480 I've said to him,

01:19:32.280 to his face...

01:19:33.040 I agree.

01:19:33.480 The argument he should have said

01:19:34.940 is that the deliberate suppression

01:19:36.940 of things like

01:19:38.820 the Hunter Biden laptop scandal

01:19:40.640 from the media,

01:19:41.980 by social media,

01:19:42.920 by big tech,

01:19:44.040 was actually

01:19:45.140 a deliberate attempt

01:19:46.720 to subvert

01:19:47.620 the result of the election.

01:19:49.180 And that's a much better argument

01:19:51.100 because it's undeniable.

01:19:52.820 When the New York Post

01:19:53.740 that had that exclusive

01:19:54.720 were basically

01:19:55.740 shadow banned

01:19:56.500 off all social media

01:19:57.560 for the two weeks

01:19:58.700 before the election,

01:19:59.640 that was an absolute disgrace.

01:20:02.120 And if I was Donald Trump,

01:20:03.380 I would focus on that

01:20:04.820 as being my main argument

01:20:07.380 that that election

01:20:08.720 was slanted against him.

01:20:11.460 When he goes off

01:20:12.500 into saying

01:20:12.980 that there was

01:20:13.560 widespread rigging

01:20:15.060 and voter systems

01:20:16.500 were wrong,

01:20:17.080 we've litigated

01:20:18.500 all this now

01:20:19.120 through various court cases,

01:20:20.880 various Republican judges

01:20:22.140 have ruled,

01:20:23.220 there was no rigging

01:20:24.440 of that kind.

01:20:25.140 In fact,

01:20:25.800 the American election system

01:20:26.940 is accepted

01:20:28.240 by most people

01:20:29.540 around the world

01:20:30.060 as being one of the best

01:20:31.460 in the world,

01:20:32.080 one of the most reliable.

01:20:33.340 So I just think

01:20:34.060 he fought the wrong argument.

01:20:35.400 If he said

01:20:36.180 the deliberate suppression

01:20:37.880 of damaging stories

01:20:39.020 to the Bidens,

01:20:40.400 which could have swung

01:20:41.160 the election,

01:20:42.300 was outrageous

01:20:43.360 and unacceptable,

01:20:44.600 I'm 100% behind it.

01:20:46.760 But by building

01:20:48.540 this spurious argument

01:20:49.900 that it was all rigged

01:20:51.300 through voting systems

01:20:52.320 and so on,

01:20:53.320 he lost me.

01:20:55.320 Well, I agree

01:20:56.220 about the voting systems,

01:20:57.640 but, you know,

01:20:58.680 when they went

01:20:59.120 into the machines,

01:20:59.920 I think that was ridiculous.

01:21:01.380 However,

01:21:02.480 what has to be accounted for

01:21:03.740 is that in 2016,

01:21:05.660 35% of the votes

01:21:06.880 were cast by mail.

01:21:08.720 Big problem.

01:21:09.720 2020, it was 70%

01:21:11.100 because of the pandemic.

01:21:12.060 So you doubled

01:21:13.160 the amount of votes

01:21:14.140 that happened by mail.

01:21:15.320 They called it

01:21:15.700 in-person early voting.

01:21:17.200 They called it

01:21:17.700 a variety of different things.

01:21:18.800 And the other thing

01:21:19.680 that they changed

01:21:20.240 is they solicited

01:21:21.180 the mail-in ballots.

01:21:23.020 So they sent ballots

01:21:24.100 to people's houses.

01:21:25.840 And once you do that,

01:21:26.920 I mean,

01:21:27.300 you have absentee

01:21:28.400 balloting normally,

01:21:29.360 but it's a process.

01:21:30.200 You've got to give

01:21:30.680 your social security number,

01:21:31.780 your ID.

01:21:32.520 They sent it to you.

01:21:33.580 There's regulations in place.

01:21:35.280 This is an election

01:21:35.940 where they double

01:21:36.540 the amount of mail-in votes

01:21:37.560 and they solicited,

01:21:38.560 they sent ballots

01:21:39.220 to people's houses.

01:21:40.260 And when you do that,

01:21:41.680 you break the chain of custody.

01:21:43.300 So they send the ballot out

01:21:44.800 and then they tell people

01:21:45.920 return it at a 24-hour

01:21:48.440 ballot drop site

01:21:49.760 that's unsupervised.

01:21:51.000 There's thousands of them.

01:21:52.260 And they're going to hope

01:21:53.140 that all the ballots

01:21:54.140 that find their way

01:21:55.020 into these drop boxes

01:21:56.040 were filled out

01:21:57.140 by the person

01:21:57.940 that the ballot

01:21:58.480 was intended for.

01:21:59.520 And I know that didn't happen.

01:22:00.800 I'll tell you why.

01:22:02.160 My uncle has been dead

01:22:03.280 for 26 years.

01:22:04.820 He got a ballot in 2020.

01:22:06.500 It was mailed

01:22:06.940 to my parents' house.

01:22:08.360 And you know

01:22:09.320 that was happening

01:22:09.940 in nursing homes.

01:22:10.820 You know that was happening

01:22:11.740 in apartment buildings.

01:22:13.160 But you also know

01:22:14.200 that every independent

01:22:15.480 body that has looked

01:22:16.800 at this has concluded

01:22:17.880 there was no widespread

01:22:19.320 rigging.

01:22:20.620 That it was a free

01:22:21.860 and fair election

01:22:22.980 and Trump lost.

01:22:24.640 And the bottom line is

01:22:25.560 he should stop

01:22:26.280 going on about it anyway

01:22:27.160 because he won back

01:22:28.100 the White House

01:22:28.840 in 2024.

01:22:31.360 By your...

01:22:31.920 OK, well...

01:22:32.520 As you have been

01:22:33.600 so keen to tell me,

01:22:34.940 move on, right?

01:22:36.220 No one wants to look

01:22:36.960 back too far.

01:22:38.720 That's a separate argument.

01:22:40.080 I mean, you can say

01:22:40.900 that he should stop

01:22:41.560 talking about it,

01:22:42.360 but whether it was rigged

01:22:43.420 or not, is actually relevant

01:22:45.120 to what happened

01:22:45.680 on January 6th.

01:22:46.760 Because what happened

01:22:47.440 on J6th is people

01:22:48.940 were outraged about it.

01:22:50.140 People were furious

01:22:50.920 that, by the way,

01:22:52.460 there's never been

01:22:53.240 an independent ballot audit

01:22:55.380 in all the states

01:22:56.360 where there was alleged

01:22:57.800 to be rigging.

01:22:58.500 That has not happened.

01:22:59.600 And certainly,

01:23:00.280 it did not happen

01:23:01.020 up until January 6th.

01:23:02.700 And people said,

01:23:03.420 this is ridiculous.

01:23:04.640 They're stealing it.

01:23:05.540 You know...

01:23:05.880 People, honestly,

01:23:06.980 if either you

01:23:07.820 or Donald Trump

01:23:08.500 or anybody else

01:23:09.080 wants to show me...

01:23:10.060 I said this to him

01:23:10.740 when I interviewed him

01:23:11.540 last, you know,

01:23:12.360 if you show me

01:23:13.060 the actual,

01:23:14.160 hardcore,

01:23:15.220 incontrovertible evidence,

01:23:17.460 then great.

01:23:18.660 I've never seen it.

01:23:20.060 Joe Rogan asked him.

01:23:21.520 He didn't produce it

01:23:22.580 with Joe Rogan.

01:23:23.700 It's just never

01:23:24.160 been produced.

01:23:25.400 But, look,

01:23:26.200 I don't want to label

01:23:27.200 the point on that.

01:23:27.800 I suppose the more

01:23:28.440 interesting question now,

01:23:30.360 as your influence rises

01:23:31.880 in the conservative movement

01:23:33.160 in America,

01:23:34.140 and there's a lot

01:23:35.220 of splits going on

01:23:36.160 amongst MAGA

01:23:36.920 over a number of issues,

01:23:39.500 and about you,

01:23:40.520 and you know this,

01:23:41.880 is your split

01:23:42.820 with Trump irrevocable?

01:23:44.600 Do you feel now,

01:23:45.640 as we head towards

01:23:46.640 the year of the midterms,

01:23:48.920 that it's time to now

01:23:49.760 look to who his successor

01:23:50.780 will be,

01:23:51.480 and who do you think

01:23:52.340 that person should be?

01:23:55.040 Well, it's not irrevocable,

01:23:56.920 but I am very pessimistic

01:23:58.900 about this administration,

01:24:00.500 and succession is something

01:24:02.380 that I've been interested in

01:24:03.540 for as long as I've been

01:24:04.500 doing this show,

01:24:05.400 and I think it's very clear

01:24:06.680 that they are grooming

01:24:08.020 J.D. Vance to be that successor,

01:24:10.060 and by they,

01:24:10.720 I mean Elon Musk,

01:24:12.140 Tucker Carlson,

01:24:13.120 Peter Thiel.

01:24:14.000 There seems to be

01:24:15.160 an organization

01:24:16.160 that was put in place

01:24:17.600 roughly around 2022

01:24:18.980 when Peter Thiel

01:24:20.200 was very active

01:24:20.980 in the midterm elections.

01:24:22.200 He spent, I think,

01:24:22.860 over $30 million,

01:24:24.540 $15 million for Vance,

01:24:25.980 $15 million for Masters,

01:24:27.660 spent a lot of money

01:24:28.460 in a lot of other

01:24:29.140 congressional races

01:24:30.040 trying to unseat

01:24:31.560 the Republicans

01:24:32.180 that voted for impeachment.

01:24:33.540 And also building out

01:24:35.880 a media market,

01:24:37.080 building out

01:24:37.580 a patronage network,

01:24:38.940 funding things like

01:24:39.720 Passage Press,

01:24:40.620 Sovereign House,

01:24:41.540 a number of other projects

01:24:42.760 to create sort of like

01:24:44.100 a self-contained media ecosystem.

01:24:46.360 And Vance is clearly

01:24:47.500 the selected nominee.

01:24:49.620 That is who the interests want,

01:24:51.580 and they've been pushing

01:24:52.540 for him very strongly.

01:24:53.840 So I think he's

01:24:55.220 the heir apparent right now.

01:24:56.580 There's a forceful push.

01:24:58.100 I've heard good things about him.

01:24:59.580 I've heard bad things

01:25:00.420 about him too.

01:25:01.600 And where I think

01:25:02.420 it needs to go

01:25:03.160 is I think we need to return

01:25:04.460 to the message from 2016,

01:25:06.400 what Trump said

01:25:07.400 in the first election,

01:25:08.760 which is we need

01:25:09.800 to drain the swamp.

01:25:10.980 We need to get the money

01:25:11.800 out of politics,

01:25:13.100 the super PACs,

01:25:14.060 the special interests,

01:25:15.680 put America first

01:25:16.640 in foreign policy,

01:25:17.560 and the wars,

01:25:18.680 close the border

01:25:19.400 and deport the illegals,

01:25:20.840 and re-industrialize America,

01:25:22.740 bring back manufacturing,

01:25:24.040 bring back jobs.

01:25:25.040 We're in this cold war

01:25:26.320 with China.

01:25:26.940 We need America

01:25:28.040 to have productive capacity again.

01:25:30.240 We need America

01:25:30.800 to have wealth.

01:25:31.780 So I think whoever

01:25:33.040 is going to bring us

01:25:33.860 back to that,

01:25:34.800 that's who I'm going to support,

01:25:36.200 and I haven't seen enough

01:25:37.460 from Vance yet.

01:25:38.460 You called J.D. Vance's wife

01:25:40.260 Ajit.

01:25:40.860 What does that mean?

01:25:42.420 Thank you.

01:25:42.980 Come again.

01:25:43.500 It's a slur for Indians.

01:25:44.540 Why would you use that?

01:25:45.740 Thank you.

01:25:46.300 Come again.

01:25:47.580 Well,

01:25:48.680 you want the honest answer?

01:25:50.160 Thank you.

01:25:50.700 Come again.

01:25:53.180 No.

01:25:54.360 No.

01:25:54.660 There's actually

01:25:55.300 a different reason.

01:25:56.720 The reason why I said that,

01:25:58.820 if you watch the whole show,

01:26:00.040 did you watch that whole show,

01:26:01.360 by the way?

01:26:01.420 No, no,

01:26:01.720 but you've admitted

01:26:02.180 you used that slur.

01:26:03.160 I'm just curious

01:26:03.660 why you would use that

01:26:04.520 about a woman

01:26:05.840 with her heritage.

01:26:07.440 There's a really

01:26:08.200 important reason why,

01:26:09.280 and this is why

01:26:09.760 context matters.

01:26:11.200 If you look online

01:26:12.540 at the people

01:26:13.620 that are supporting

01:26:14.380 J.D. Vance the most,

01:26:16.560 they are racist.

01:26:18.220 They're racist also,

01:26:19.220 let's say.

01:26:19.880 And they look at

01:26:20.680 someone like myself,

01:26:21.480 I don't support J.D. Vance,

01:26:22.900 and they say,

01:26:23.500 you're brown,

01:26:24.080 you're a third worldist.

01:26:26.040 They are gleefully

01:26:27.300 participating in the

01:26:28.700 cruelty,

01:26:29.920 you could say,

01:26:30.420 the performative cruelty

01:26:31.320 of the Trump administration.

01:26:32.720 They say,

01:26:33.360 you're going back.

01:26:34.500 You have 100 days

01:26:35.800 until you're being deported.

01:26:37.420 You're going in a crystal.

01:26:39.160 And then they tell us

01:26:39.980 to vote for J.D. Vance.

01:26:41.680 And so all I did

01:26:42.480 on the show

01:26:43.200 is I said,

01:26:44.420 you have basically

01:26:46.020 racist chuds

01:26:47.360 that post memes

01:26:48.400 about Indians

01:26:49.400 all day on Twitter,

01:26:50.900 memes about third worldists

01:26:52.500 and Palestinians even.

01:26:54.080 But then they want

01:26:54.900 to turn around

01:26:55.660 and support a guy

01:26:56.760 who has said on Twitter,

01:26:58.620 how dare you say

01:26:59.660 I'm racist?

01:27:00.360 I have non-white kids

01:27:01.780 and I'm in an

01:27:02.340 interracial marriage.

01:27:03.480 And all I said

01:27:04.540 is that's,

01:27:05.440 I just said

01:27:05.920 that's a little ironic.

01:27:07.040 I said that's hypocritical.

01:27:08.460 And Vance is going

01:27:09.240 to have to explain

01:27:10.080 to all of his supporters

01:27:11.440 who have gassed him up

01:27:13.220 as the real,

01:27:14.800 you know,

01:27:15.120 the real mass

01:27:15.820 deportation candidate.

01:27:17.160 He's going to have

01:27:17.820 to explain to them

01:27:18.600 what's going on with that.

01:27:20.000 What is with the contradiction?

01:27:21.240 And you don't feel

01:27:22.260 any accountability

01:27:22.960 for the millions

01:27:23.900 of young people

01:27:24.740 that will hear you

01:27:25.820 use that slur

01:27:26.860 and think it's fine

01:27:27.940 to use it?

01:27:30.920 What are,

01:27:31.520 no,

01:27:32.040 no,

01:27:32.340 I think that's ridiculous.

01:27:33.680 Okay.

01:27:33.860 Thank you,

01:27:34.340 come again.

01:27:34.920 Let's take a final break

01:27:35.940 and come back

01:27:36.460 with a little

01:27:36.860 kind of summary

01:27:37.780 of how you think

01:27:39.420 this interview

01:27:39.840 has gone for you.

01:27:41.180 Okay.

01:27:41.540 If you're a fan

01:27:42.560 of epic fantasy

01:27:43.700 or theory and...

01:27:44.700 All right,

01:27:45.020 guys.

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01:27:57.940 Also,

01:27:58.620 make sure to join

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01:28:00.160 Only a dollar to join.

01:28:01.020 We got 11,000 guys

01:28:02.060 in there

01:28:02.520 and

01:28:03.520 6,000

01:28:05.520 actual supporting members.

01:28:08.160 11,000

01:28:08.820 in the group total

01:28:09.600 at the free level

01:28:10.320 and then we got 6,000 of that

01:28:11.680 and you know,

01:28:13.320 the actual support

01:28:13.980 is financial supporters.

01:28:14.740 So I appreciate you guys.

01:28:16.160 Make sure to get in there.

01:28:18.040 It's only a dollar.

01:28:19.360 Use code L

01:28:20.320 YouTube

01:28:20.760 and we will be cooking,

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01:28:23.720 That is the way to go.

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01:28:33.580 Bro,

01:28:33.800 my ad was faster

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01:28:37.100 so you don't miss out.

01:28:39.080 Also,

01:28:39.440 smash the like button,

01:28:40.060 guys.

01:28:40.200 There's 6,000 plus

01:28:41.260 you ninjas in here.

01:28:42.680 We've been talking

01:28:43.520 for nearly two hours.

01:28:45.080 No bots.

01:28:46.060 View of how the interview

01:28:46.980 has gone.

01:28:48.680 I think it was great.

01:28:49.960 Honestly,

01:28:50.520 I think it was

01:28:51.880 a tough interview.

01:28:53.280 You're a tough interviewer

01:28:54.380 but I don't think

01:28:55.560 there were surprises.

01:28:56.600 I will not say

01:28:57.500 it was an ambush

01:28:58.180 because it wasn't.

01:28:59.980 I sort of anticipated

01:29:01.400 that you would

01:29:02.700 make some choices

01:29:03.620 about how you wanted

01:29:04.540 it to go

01:29:04.980 and I was fine with it

01:29:05.860 so I thought

01:29:06.520 it was terrific.

01:29:07.080 As a Catholic,

01:29:09.360 you're probably aware

01:29:10.460 the Jerusalem Post

01:29:11.540 has recently called

01:29:12.320 on the Pope

01:29:12.800 to openly condemn you.

01:29:14.600 Would it matter to you

01:29:15.560 if the Pope did?

01:29:16.580 He's an American Pope,

01:29:17.540 obviously.

01:29:18.860 It would be very disheartening,

01:29:20.500 yes.

01:29:23.820 Why?

01:29:24.300 Because he's our

01:29:26.940 spiritual leader.

01:29:28.320 He's the head

01:29:28.940 of the church.

01:29:29.580 He's the vicar of Christ

01:29:30.640 so if he condemned me

01:29:32.400 that would be

01:29:32.900 very disheartening

01:29:34.300 and it would depend

01:29:36.380 upon what he would

01:29:37.180 say exactly

01:29:37.960 but yeah,

01:29:39.040 I wouldn't like that.

01:29:40.040 I wouldn't like that at all.

01:29:40.520 If he condemned you

01:29:41.280 because you've openly

01:29:42.360 admitted to being a racist

01:29:43.380 on this show?

01:29:47.360 Oh,

01:29:47.920 you know,

01:29:48.300 this racist,

01:29:49.140 I would be disappointed

01:29:49.980 if he said that

01:29:50.800 because I think

01:29:51.440 that word racist,

01:29:52.520 it means something

01:29:53.860 different to everybody

01:29:54.880 and it's a fake term

01:29:56.360 so I think that's

01:29:57.620 just silly.

01:29:58.220 I think that's

01:29:58.680 just semantic.

01:30:00.000 Have you ever been

01:30:00.800 in love in your life?

01:30:02.380 Bruh.

01:30:04.040 This guy.

01:30:05.080 No,

01:30:05.260 like romantically?

01:30:06.180 No.

01:30:06.860 Never.

01:30:08.480 No.

01:30:09.920 Do you think

01:30:10.220 that's part of the problem?

01:30:12.940 What's the problem?

01:30:15.160 Why you are

01:30:15.940 the way you are.

01:30:17.760 Oh,

01:30:18.320 and what's the way I am?

01:30:20.060 What are you trying to say?

01:30:21.560 I've given,

01:30:21.960 I've given people

01:30:22.980 two hours

01:30:23.700 of the way you are.

01:30:24.880 You're unashamed

01:30:25.500 about a lot of it.

01:30:27.820 And?

01:30:28.600 I don't think

01:30:29.180 I have a problem.

01:30:30.300 I think I'm

01:30:31.000 cheerful,

01:30:32.460 boisterous.

01:30:33.640 Look,

01:30:34.080 unlike you,

01:30:36.520 I'm willing

01:30:37.040 to be a little,

01:30:38.000 well,

01:30:38.300 I guess you're willing

01:30:38.800 to be provocative,

01:30:39.640 but I'm willing

01:30:40.020 to be very provocative

01:30:40.980 and I'm a free thinker

01:30:42.140 and I don't like

01:30:42.940 to be tone policed.

01:30:43.940 I don't like

01:30:44.280 to be told about,

01:30:45.420 you know,

01:30:46.360 people are going

01:30:47.040 to tone police

01:30:47.700 and play moral cop

01:30:49.000 about you can't

01:30:49.820 make this joke

01:30:50.620 or you can't

01:30:51.200 make this statement.

01:30:51.960 And I think

01:30:53.240 that's just about

01:30:53.940 being intellectually

01:30:54.780 open.

01:30:55.740 I'm a believer

01:30:56.500 in openness

01:30:57.120 and I like ideas.

01:30:58.040 I completely agree.

01:30:59.180 I think you should

01:30:59.960 be perfectly free

01:31:01.020 to express yourself

01:31:02.300 exactly how you see fit.

01:31:04.120 My problem

01:31:04.780 is how you see fit

01:31:06.700 with some of the things

01:31:07.820 that you say.

01:31:08.980 And we've been

01:31:09.820 through a lot of them

01:31:10.540 and I think people

01:31:11.340 who don't know you

01:31:12.280 very well

01:31:12.800 will have been

01:31:13.920 shocked in parts

01:31:15.320 and surprised

01:31:16.760 in other parts

01:31:17.840 but in totality

01:31:19.620 they can see you

01:31:21.620 for what you are.

01:31:22.540 I think we've got

01:31:22.940 a lot nearer

01:31:23.540 to what the real

01:31:24.380 Nick Fuentes is

01:31:25.460 in the last two hours

01:31:26.880 than we probably

01:31:27.460 have seen

01:31:27.920 from your other

01:31:28.920 recent interviews.

01:31:29.640 Would you agree?

01:31:30.220 No, I mean

01:31:33.320 the clip thing

01:31:34.600 we've done

01:31:35.400 the clip thing

01:31:36.120 we've all seen

01:31:36.760 the clip show

01:31:37.600 everyone's seen

01:31:38.560 the clips

01:31:39.040 you think you're

01:31:39.500 the first one

01:31:40.060 to do the ADL

01:31:40.900 rap sheet

01:31:41.520 so here you said

01:31:42.460 this and then

01:31:43.100 here you said

01:31:43.640 that I've been

01:31:44.360 playing that game

01:31:44.920 for 10 years

01:31:45.580 so this is

01:31:46.500 honestly more

01:31:47.080 of the same

01:31:47.540 to tell you

01:31:48.000 the truth.

01:31:50.660 Nick Fuentes

01:31:51.300 I appreciate you

01:31:52.340 coming on

01:31:52.720 Uncensored

01:31:53.140 thank you very much.

01:31:54.720 Thank you for having me.

01:31:58.560 Well my thanks

01:31:59.240 to Nick Fuentes

01:31:59.680 and my thanks

01:32:00.760 to the hundreds

01:32:01.160 of thousands of you

01:32:02.020 watching this special

01:32:02.980 live episode

01:32:03.800 of 116K

01:32:04.800 As I said

01:32:05.280 during the interview

01:32:05.780 I think it was

01:32:06.840 firm but fair

01:32:08.120 but you can all

01:32:08.760 make up your own minds

01:32:09.840 if you like

01:32:10.920 what you do

01:32:12.400 please like

01:32:13.180 and subscribe

01:32:13.760 the channel

01:32:14.300 so that we can

01:32:15.040 keep doing it.

01:32:15.660 I'm back tomorrow

01:32:16.200 until then

01:32:16.760 whatever you're up to

01:32:17.720 keep it uncensored.

01:32:20.440 Alright

01:32:20.960 so let's go

01:32:23.020 read through

01:32:23.360 some of these chats

01:32:23.940 get your chats in guys

01:32:24.920 you heard about

01:32:25.900 Tim Poole's house

01:32:26.440 getting shot up

01:32:26.920 I did hear about that

01:32:28.020 option 013

01:32:29.520 just joined

01:32:30.180 you may have

01:32:30.520 mentioned already

01:32:31.000 but the episode

01:32:31.520 with Diddy is

01:32:31.920 processed

01:32:32.200 you can't catch it live

01:32:33.020 yeah it'll process soon

01:32:33.940 it's because it was

01:32:34.380 like a 9 hour stream

01:32:35.380 Dang Myron

01:32:36.260 do you ever sleep

01:32:36.840 you're the only

01:32:37.220 real ninja

01:32:37.660 that enslaved

01:32:38.080 himself

01:32:38.320 you know it man

01:32:38.980 dude I did a

01:32:39.820 9 hour stream

01:32:40.420 last night

01:32:40.780 I still came back

01:32:41.600 and did another

01:32:42.460 one right now

01:32:42.880 with you guys

01:32:43.320 I just got here

01:32:44.420 at work right now

01:32:44.920 what did I miss

01:32:45.480 yeah you didn't miss

01:32:46.380 much

01:32:46.620 Nick should have said

01:32:47.440 1k

01:32:47.880 the shift podcast

01:32:49.100 with 20 gifted

01:32:49.780 thank you

01:32:50.220 Mr. Rain

01:32:53.540 crazy that I just

01:32:55.060 asked you about Milo

01:32:55.760 and then he ended

01:32:56.120 up on your show

01:32:56.660 yeah

01:32:56.920 British colonial rule

01:32:58.160 1757-1947

01:32:59.300 mainly from chronic

01:33:00.400 malnutrition diseases

01:33:01.360 smaller famines

01:33:02.180 fair

01:33:02.500 at this point

01:33:04.180 Pierce belongs

01:33:05.460 in the kitchen

01:33:05.920 facts

01:33:06.440 Nick is cooking him

01:33:08.980 Kronji donate

01:33:11.120 shout out to you

01:33:11.620 Kronji with the 30 bucks

01:33:12.660 Hung Epstein

01:33:13.740 Martin are you going

01:33:14.880 to have an OSS

01:33:15.640 Hanukkah stream

01:33:16.140 next week

01:33:16.580 yeah okay

01:33:17.180 Martin do you agree

01:33:18.320 that white people

01:33:18.800 should stay away

01:33:19.320 from blacks

01:33:19.660 let's be honest

01:33:20.240 most black crime

01:33:21.400 is committed

01:33:21.640 against black people

01:33:22.200 blah blah blah

01:33:22.600 look it's obviously

01:33:23.880 within reason

01:33:24.320 you gotta have

01:33:24.700 common sense right

01:33:25.420 like is every single

01:33:26.160 black person

01:33:26.580 gonna come in

01:33:27.060 and stab you

01:33:27.500 and shoot you

01:33:27.840 of course not

01:33:28.400 dude

01:33:28.620 of course not

01:33:29.260 so you know

01:33:30.740 you just gotta

01:33:31.060 exercise a little

01:33:31.560 bit of common sense

01:33:32.220 um

01:33:33.140 Martin appreciate

01:33:35.100 all you do man

01:33:35.900 being real as fuck

01:33:36.520 having great values

01:33:37.300 and saving

01:33:37.680 and improving lives

01:33:38.220 and relationships

01:33:38.520 appreciate you bro

01:33:39.240 Timothy 212 says

01:33:40.920 uh

01:33:41.860 that women are not

01:33:43.440 permitted to teach

01:33:44.120 or have authority

01:33:44.600 over men

01:33:44.880 you should remain

01:33:45.340 quiet facts

01:33:46.080 Martin we need

01:33:47.760 to not only

01:33:48.540 repeal the 19th Amendment

01:33:49.280 but we gotta burn it

01:33:50.140 burn it

01:33:50.840 and drop a full

01:33:51.920 yeah it's a bad

01:33:53.820 it's a bad amendment bro

01:33:55.020 uh

01:33:55.860 G Shot says

01:33:56.800 live at work

01:33:57.340 W Monday

01:33:57.900 W Pierce Morgan

01:33:58.920 definitely won the debate

01:33:59.740 oh that's for Benjamin

01:34:00.460 and Yahoo

01:34:00.840 that's why he said

01:34:01.500 bro's like

01:34:03.480 yes

01:34:03.760 that's borrow work

01:34:04.600 Big Myron

01:34:08.060 appreciate that

01:34:09.180 Ken Rose

01:34:09.740 six bucks

01:34:10.440 um

01:34:11.860 this fucking idiot

01:34:14.960 comes in and says

01:34:15.720 something

01:34:16.140 dude I don't know

01:34:18.140 what the fuck

01:34:18.540 you're talking about

01:34:19.200 like Brett

01:34:21.700 I don't even know

01:34:22.940 what the hell

01:34:23.460 you're talking about

01:34:24.060 you

01:34:24.340 I don't know

01:34:24.940 what you saw

01:34:25.540 or whatever

01:34:25.880 but you're clearly

01:34:26.560 way too invested

01:34:27.760 in whatever you're

01:34:28.260 trying to claim

01:34:28.700 uh

01:34:30.860 let's see here

01:34:31.660 quick word

01:34:35.520 gentlemen

01:34:35.940 they banned me

01:34:43.860 on Instagram

01:34:44.280 they demonetized me

01:34:45.280 on YouTube

01:34:45.640 they banned me

01:34:46.340 on Facebook

01:34:46.860 they banned me

01:34:47.560 on Twitch

01:34:48.080 the ADL

01:34:48.780 and the SPLC

01:34:49.440 put me on their

01:34:50.080 hit list

01:34:50.440 as well as

01:34:50.960 Media Matters

01:34:51.660 that tells you

01:34:52.140 everything you need

01:34:52.620 to know

01:34:52.920 they don't want you

01:34:53.640 to hear what I have

01:34:54.360 to say

01:34:54.700 and that's exactly

01:34:55.500 why the OSS

01:34:56.380 army exists

01:34:56.980 the OSS

01:34:57.540 is my uncensored

01:34:58.240 army

01:34:58.520 where the truth

01:34:59.160 prevails

01:34:59.620 over all the lies

01:35:00.640 but OSS

01:35:01.260 isn't just content

01:35:02.100 guys

01:35:02.420 it's a movement

01:35:03.140 it doesn't feel

01:35:03.740 like a group

01:35:04.360 it's a force

01:35:05.220 it's an army

01:35:05.980 inside the community

01:35:06.780 you connect with

01:35:07.300 like-minded individuals

01:35:08.120 that aren't afraid

01:35:08.780 to question the narrative

01:35:09.740 46,000 plus strong

01:35:11.160 pushing towards 10,000

01:35:12.180 every new member

01:35:12.840 makes the message louder

01:35:13.840 and they can't

01:35:14.600 censor all of us

01:35:15.480 this is where

01:35:15.840 you can speak freely

01:35:16.560 and not have to be

01:35:17.240 worried about being

01:35:17.900 judged, fired,

01:35:18.820 labeled a hater,

01:35:19.820 anti-Semite,

01:35:20.600 misogynist

01:35:21.160 or any of these

01:35:21.600 other stupid ass

01:35:22.200 buzz terms

01:35:22.660 that they like to use

01:35:23.380 for people that are

01:35:23.940 critical thinkers

01:35:24.540 the movement goes

01:35:25.160 beyond the live stream

01:35:25.880 we build a community

01:35:26.740 we're able to have

01:35:27.320 discussions

01:35:27.760 we're able to go ahead

01:35:28.620 and interact with each other

01:35:29.360 the way that we want

01:35:30.120 where we don't have to

01:35:30.680 worry about censorship

01:35:31.360 we have a telegram group

01:35:32.220 where you can connect

01:35:32.720 with like-minded guys

01:35:33.620 we have a discord

01:35:34.280 that's completely free

01:35:35.300 and we do one annual

01:35:36.480 meetup per year

01:35:37.140 in Miami on 420

01:35:38.420 you'll also get access

01:35:39.260 to exclusive live streams

01:35:40.180 you won't find on YouTube

01:35:40.960 follow-on portions of the show

01:35:42.200 and other goodies

01:35:42.880 that you won't find

01:35:43.480 anywhere else

01:35:44.060 and even the merch

01:35:44.780 is a part of the mission

01:35:45.540 but it's not about fashion

01:35:46.640 it's about an identity

01:35:47.440 you have the ability

01:35:48.380 to think critically

01:35:49.280 and challenge the narrative

01:35:50.360 high quality

01:35:51.040 Nike gear

01:35:51.840 and not ridiculously branded

01:35:53.620 that allows you

01:35:54.360 to identify each other

01:35:55.340 without being too overt

01:35:56.500 and understanding

01:35:57.080 that you know

01:35:57.740 what the hell is up

01:35:58.440 so you can go ahead

01:35:59.140 and move covertly

01:36:00.060 with your red pill awareness

01:36:01.040 compared to other

01:36:01.760 blue pill normies

01:36:02.600 all of this for just

01:36:03.380 10 bucks a month

01:36:03.960 or you can join

01:36:04.940 for the year

01:36:05.500 use JFK 9-11

01:36:06.720 as a promo code

01:36:07.520 and you get in

01:36:08.040 for 50 bucks for the year

01:36:08.960 this isn't just content

01:36:09.860 it's resistance

01:36:10.580 it's culture

01:36:11.240 and it's freedom

01:36:12.260 it's the OSS army

01:36:13.280 bam

01:36:14.420 yeah man

01:36:16.060 we litty

01:36:19.560 we litty guys

01:36:20.360 no that was

01:36:21.280 that was good stuff

01:36:22.100 let me read some here

01:36:23.520 repeal the 19th

01:36:24.800 amendment hoodie

01:36:25.320 maybe

01:36:25.800 freeology hammer

01:36:26.940 and I think Trump

01:36:27.520 is playing a role

01:36:28.680 so he can do

01:36:29.360 what he needs to do

01:36:30.060 for us Americans

01:36:30.660 the J power

01:36:31.160 is that great

01:36:31.720 he's just hiding

01:36:32.700 in plain sight

01:36:33.260 I think it's very hard

01:36:34.080 to do

01:36:34.480 but he is doing it

01:36:35.540 he can't talk out loud

01:36:36.460 about what do you think

01:36:37.640 I don't know bro

01:36:39.480 the whole 5D chest thing

01:36:40.720 is a lot of cope dude

01:36:41.700 you know

01:36:42.440 the reality is that

01:36:43.360 Trump's done some things well

01:36:44.460 and he's done other things terribly

01:36:45.580 and people forget

01:36:47.780 that the president's

01:36:49.240 you're never going to be

01:36:50.140 100% satisfied

01:36:50.900 with the president

01:36:51.420 like you're always going to be

01:36:52.560 you know I think

01:36:53.420 if you get like

01:36:54.720 half of what you want

01:36:55.620 that's considered a W

01:36:57.140 you know what I mean

01:36:57.940 you guys know

01:36:59.600 how politicians are

01:37:00.200 they say what they got to

01:37:00.920 say to get elected

01:37:01.800 so if you get at least

01:37:03.100 50% of what you want

01:37:04.160 that's actually a W

01:37:05.120 so

01:37:07.660 anyway

01:37:09.360 guys

01:37:10.020 I'm going to call it there

01:37:11.500 I'm dead

01:37:12.860 I did not sleep

01:37:13.660 since last night

01:37:15.000 but I saw that

01:37:15.560 they were alive

01:37:16.040 so I said fuck it

01:37:16.680 let's go

01:37:17.060 we got to get on there

01:37:18.320 they went back and forth

01:37:20.940 Nick didn't like

01:37:22.040 the contention

01:37:23.360 honestly started right here

01:37:24.920 and I'll kind of

01:37:25.340 rewind this back

01:37:25.960 for you guys

01:37:26.340 so you can see it

01:37:27.100 and it's about

01:37:29.560 proportionality

01:37:30.500 and every

01:37:31.180 by this

01:37:32.080 I'm progressive

01:37:32.780 then she got stabbed

01:37:33.920 in the neck

01:37:34.620 you don't like

01:37:35.820 you don't like

01:37:36.520 black people

01:37:37.280 who

01:37:38.120 I do want to finish

01:37:40.260 my point about

01:37:40.880 yay

01:37:41.160 I'm trying to figure out

01:37:42.860 what time stamp it was

01:37:43.640 but long story short

01:37:44.420 Pierce said that

01:37:46.840 Nick had said something

01:37:47.500 about his parents

01:37:48.020 saying hey

01:37:48.460 we don't go to

01:37:48.900 black restaurants

01:37:49.460 whatever

01:37:49.740 and Pierce brought that up

01:37:51.220 and Nick on Mac

01:37:51.800 is like look dude

01:37:52.500 like my dad still works

01:37:53.480 like this is

01:37:54.120 you know what I mean

01:37:54.880 you're taking out of context

01:37:55.860 what I said in that video

01:37:56.640 blah blah

01:37:56.940 so that's kind of how

01:37:58.440 the

01:37:58.720 you know

01:37:59.840 first he got

01:38:00.320 Nick's background

01:38:01.180 then he started

01:38:02.340 getting into

01:38:02.740 the more contentious stuff

01:38:03.800 Beckins says

01:38:05.880 repeal 19

01:38:06.960 Durax

01:38:07.360 maybe

01:38:07.780 what do you think

01:38:11.180 about Candace O

01:38:11.980 and TPS

01:38:12.460 haven't been tuned in

01:38:13.280 this much this week

01:38:13.880 I am not so sure

01:38:15.680 of what's going on

01:38:16.280 with that whole thing

01:38:16.860 I'm actually going to watch

01:38:17.600 one of Ian Carroll's

01:38:18.260 videos here in a second

01:38:19.080 to kind of get

01:38:20.520 updated on it

01:38:21.060 because I've not been

01:38:21.560 coming up

01:38:22.020 not been studying

01:38:23.060 the Charlie Kirk

01:38:23.580 like guys

01:38:24.360 I've been trying to

01:38:25.320 stay away from

01:38:26.400 covering the Charlie Kirk

01:38:27.200 case because I just

01:38:27.860 I don't know

01:38:31.400 it just bothers me

01:38:32.420 covering that

01:38:33.140 that case bro

01:38:33.820 you know I mean

01:38:34.280 I kind of

01:38:34.700 I look

01:38:35.460 I kind of feel like

01:38:36.100 I'm disrespecting

01:38:37.800 him by like

01:38:38.260 keep talking about

01:38:39.040 it you know

01:38:39.380 someone that's deceased

01:38:40.060 so you know

01:38:41.060 obviously I did

01:38:41.680 coverage in the

01:38:42.180 beginning

01:38:42.440 but I think at

01:38:44.180 this point man

01:38:44.700 you know at least

01:38:45.220 from my perspective

01:38:45.960 I'm going to let

01:38:46.480 the man rest bro

01:38:47.140 so unless there's

01:38:48.180 like something

01:38:48.560 breaking

01:38:49.120 on the assassination

01:38:52.340 or something like

01:38:52.960 that you know

01:38:54.120 I'm going to keep

01:38:55.600 it you know

01:38:57.040 out

01:38:57.940 but anyway guys

01:38:59.840 love you ninjas

01:39:00.700 I'll see you guys

01:39:02.380 probably tonight

01:39:03.380 for Fresher Fit

01:39:04.500 Money Mondays

01:39:05.680 and we will have

01:39:06.500 an after hours

01:39:07.060 so love you ninjas

01:39:08.940 I'll see you guys

01:39:09.600 I'll see you guys

01:39:09.940 I'll see you guys

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - December 09, 2025

Nick Fuentes vs Piers Morgan LIVE

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