Owen Shroyer On IMMINENT Iran Israel War, The Brown Shooter, Epstein Files!
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1 hour and 27 minutes
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200.34317
Summary
In this episode of the WDFA Podcast, I sit down with my good friend and Twitch Streamer, Owen's interview. We talk about how he got kicked out of the political media, why he started his own show and much more!
Transcript
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you being flexible and um just for those that don't know who you are can you introduce yourself
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real quick to the people yes sir so i've been in politics commentary field reporting talk show
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hosting for about 10 years i actually came from the sports media but i left the sports media world
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because i realized i wasn't a kid anymore and i wanted to do something that was a little more
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um important let's say and when you're and you may be surprised to find out that when you get
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behind the scenes of the sports world it starts to lose a little bit of its luster when you kind of
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get behind the scenes of it and uh athletes aren't as cool how the sausage is made i will say a lot of
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the athletes and a lot of the the broadcasters and stuff are actually really cool people it's
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actually a really good um it's a really good culture um but i got to the point where it was
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like doing sports for six seven hours a day it just you know it's not as fun anymore it's not as fun
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anymore um and then you know you get older you get in your 20s you realize that you may not care about
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politics but politics cares about you but more than anything it was just realizing that all of
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our politicians are liars all of our mainstream media is filled with liars and so i felt that i
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had to fill that void i wanted to be a truth teller in the media so here we are years later i've started
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my own thing i host the owen report three hours a day three to six p.m central time weekdays do a lot
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of extra work on the side content creating where do you stream mostly for the for the people that like
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where do you stream what platform mostly so they can find you rumble youtube and x any one of those
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three if you can find me the owen report rumble youtube or x uh we're growing pretty substantially
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on all of those things i spent some time at um the once great there i say the once great info wars
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for a long time i still uh i still have a lot of friends over there so here and i'm putting your
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channel on screen right now so they can see it you might not be able to see but i'm showing it on
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screen right now here it is guys owner port i'm subscribed myself i didn't even know this uh i'm
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glad that you're back on youtube here's the channel right here guys i'm going to drop the link in the
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chat for you guys go support them um one of the homies every time i go to austin we we typically do
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an interview of some kind last time you were in the transition period so we couldn't do it but when i
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go out there in uh 2026 we're going to make it happen so i'm going to drop his link in the chat for
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you guys hell yeah so but yeah no um and i know we uh you you wanted to talk about amfest and
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everything else like that so guys for those of you that are watching this is basically owen's
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interview okay um we had been talking about this for a few days now and uh he was hitting me up when
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i was at amfest and everything like that so we can kind of just hash out some of the stuff or
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whatever you want to discuss so take it away brother it's your show so i was watching well first of all
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when i first saw the report that you had been kicked out i obviously reached out to you and i said hey i
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wanted to know the situation i was trying to get the story because i was i was going to break the story
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uh on my x account to figure out what was going on and so you had responded and you basically just
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debunked the whole thing you were like yeah none of that is true and so of course i took that to x
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and i said hey i just spoke with myron i don't remember the exact i saw that yeah you said like
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he's not and he's not someone he didn't get kicked out he's not somalian he's souvenirs it was
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hilarious not somali yeah so anyway but what's funny is it what's what's so incredible and this is
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again this is why i got in the political media it's amazing to see what liars people are so look
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if you don't like myron if you don't like what he says or anything he stands for hey whatever okay
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i don't think he's gonna complain about it but why do you have to lie you know it's like why do you
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have to lie so first they lied about you and i just saw that no one was correcting the record so i just
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made the post i was like hey i just spoke to myron none of this is hold on hold on one sec
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hold on let me lower my mic guys whose mic is sound bad is it mine or is it owen
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it's my son is it my mic or which one is it guys which mic is it because i'm looking right now my
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obs looks fine i can raise owen or i can raise myself careful with that comment section you never
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know yeah they'd be hating they could be some bad actors in there yeah they're dude i banned people
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for trolling audio i literally banned them for that shit like i have no fucking patience for that shit
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they do that though because they're saying my mic is blowing up their eardrum it should be fine now
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all right give me once guys if both mics are fine oh it was now it's okay man what the fuck
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okay there's a delay there's a delay so yeah that's that's why dude these guys are okay we got it now
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you got to be careful you got to be careful with those chatters yeah so sorry about that so i didn't
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see i didn't see anybody correcting the record on on your story so i just posted to x i was like hey
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guys i just you know i just spoke with myron here's the case and here's what's funny they started
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attacking me just like they were attacking you and and i think it was one guy in particular who
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was really trying to blow this case up and he said oh who are your sources trust me bro and then of
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course and then of course the next day you were there taking pictures with everybody and i was like
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oh i guess my sources are better than yours considering my source in this case was literally
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the guy that you're posting about but no you know i i just you know i see that i see that you know
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i'll give turning point usa some credit because they did keep it for the most part uh open platform
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and big tent there might be some there might be some some some individuals out there that might
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have a stink still and and maybe they would disagree with that but i think overall largesse i think tp
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usa did a good job of keeping it open for for everybody that wanted to be there for the most part
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but what i don't understand it's like they kind of you see these people that want to have their cake
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and eat it too it's like oh well we need the big tent and we need to win so let's put nikki
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minaj on the stage yeah but then if it comes to like a nick fuentes or a candace owens it's like oh
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no no no but not them not them and i would ask who do you think is going to move more people
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politically candace owens or nikki minaj because i understand if there's a strategy here and they say
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what is the one demographic that republicans just can't touch right like they just can't even get any
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room there uh it's black women yep who's going to move more black women to vote you think nikki
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minaj or you think candace owens who would move more people politically i would argue candace owens
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agree no matter what you think of her politics i would argue that so it's kind of like they're
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kind of have their cake and eat it too like oh no no look we got a big tent thing we got nikki
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minaj here but no not candace owens or maybe some other people and i don't know part of me feels like
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maybe erica kirk now with her new role as ceo kind of wants to use this platform to just land big
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celebrity interviews that's kind of a that's kind of a hunch that i have right now um and maybe
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that'll bear out in time if that ends up being the case or not but i do think it's funny you would
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know bet they would know this better than me it seemed like you were pretty well received though
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would that be an inaccurate statement were you pretty well received at the event yeah i mean dude
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it was and that's why like so i'll kind of go through it real quick so what happened was on day
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one right so i i got there like you know i'll go through it like in meticulous detail guys please go
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check out um i'm dropping the link here in the chat for you guys he just got back on youtube
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he's the homie please go check him out used to work for info wars so um check him out but anyway um
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so i'll kind of just go through the timeline with you in detail um so day one right uh i think it was
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like thursday right or friday whatever it may be day we'll just say day one i go i get there at like
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one o'clock right and i'm there for hours right i'm there until maybe i get there around 12 or 1
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i'm there until about five o'clock right now mind you fresh while i was there sometime in the afternoon
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had tried to get in right somewhere between 12 and 3 p.m he had tried to get in i don't know exact
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time he tries to get in he's there for a little bit and then he gets kicked out they don't tell him
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why he got kicked out right he leaves um and he was with dom i'm there the whole time though right
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and here's the other thing too while fresh got kicked out i had been there for several hours and
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i was getting mobbed right to answer your question before like how were you received i was getting
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mobbed bro i'm not like this isn't a brag or anything like that but um literally i got stopped
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like i couldn't go like maybe 60 seconds while being stopped well and i saw the pictures like you
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know if if pictures were circulating on my feed it seemed like you were popping up the most yeah and
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by the way you know funny enough when we do hang out in austin we went out for a steak dinner you
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know afterwards people were coming up to you i actually had to be your photography man for a
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couple of i felt i felt a little slighted to be honest i had to play i had to play photo man for a
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minute but uh no it's um you know it was just more testament that hey you know you don't have to
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agree with everything he says but let's not pretend like there isn't a real following there
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yeah no and i and you know what that's kind of what i realized like the more polarizing you are
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the more people really like love you especially when you're talking about uncomfortable things
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because they feel like they can identify or i'm relatable and i can talk about the things they
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wish they could publicly so and the reason why i'm saying that you know because i hate talking about
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that when i get stopped or whatever it sounds so fucking try hard and corny but the reason why i'm
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saying that is relevant to the story so i had been there for hours and i got stopped a million times
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so there was no way that fresh got kicked out without without them knowing i'm there that make
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sense because if they had been trying to kick me out uh they would have known way sooner than you
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know uh than when fresh it's not like you were moving about quietly yeah like fresh is fresh isn't
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even into politics like he doesn't even touch this this uh this stuff he came out more he honestly
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came out to amfest more because i was going to be there right to show support like politics isn't
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this thing so when they kicked him out i was like at first i was like wait did they kick him out
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because of me like what were they looking for me i don't get it but but then i thought to myself
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well i've been here for like five hours i've shaken hands with literally everybody a couple of big
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names there and the other thing too i'll say is this that i noticed when i was there like i was the
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only guy that's like boarding for flight 246 to toronto is delayed 50 minutes oh what sounds like
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crowd like all the other like you know big creators million plus subs or whatever uh they were all only on
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stage and they didn't walk around you know walk and take a picture and all that other stuff they
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just did the main stage they got the hell out of there right like i was the only person i was like
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walking around actively shaking hands meeting people jumping on this guy's podcast jumping on
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that guy's podcast because i don't like to be hollywood you know i really hate that that thing
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but i guess um you know but um it was a blessing in disguise because i didn't realize that many people
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were going to come up to me so i was actually really shocked um so you know that's probably why we get
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along so much because i'm the same way yeah and and you know back in the day when i used to be more
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frequent at those events it was kind of the same thing they'd be oh you know here's your backstage
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pass or come back here and i would be like no i kind of like to mix it up with the people you know
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i kind of like to mix it up shake hands take you know take pictures whatever um and i don't know it's
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like i don't know if it's a combination of hey i i enjoy this more but it's also like these are the
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people that actually watch my content these are the people that want to support me the like going and
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meeting somebody like that is way more meaningful than maybe going backstage and shaking hands and
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having a little trivial conversation with somebody that you you may or may not get along with you
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know those are the people that really when you feed in the grassroots like that that's how you earn
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the respect that's how you earn the following absolutely absolutely and that's one thing i pride
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myself on is not being hollywood so so you know and i like i said i say all that to illustrate
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that there's no way they didn't know i was there so what happens is so while i'm there now it's about
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five or six p.m right security comes up to me hey um you know you know can you just come with
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us real quick now at this point i'm like all right are they they're gonna you know i guess the jig is
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up they're gonna kick me out too it is what it is so i walk over with them right i'm not gonna cause
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a scene i'm not gonna be an idiot i'm not gonna align with the stereotypes i was like yeah sure you
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know let's go and it's funny because i was out in the main area shaking hands and taking pictures and
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stuff and that's when they walked up to me right five hours later at this point so i i go down to the
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escalator with them right that's where that viral video came from when i was on the phone
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so as i'm there right waiting they're saying hey can you just pass me your pass now this is also very
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relevant my government name is not myron gains obviously right so and it's a unique name it's
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it's amru fuddle right my government name so when you come into turning point you have to use your
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government name so when i gave him my placard because i went there with uncensored america who you're also
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very familiar with sean and all them i went there with them i had a sponsor badge with them
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i when i gave it to them they're like wait what what's and that's where the confusion was because
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they were under the impression that i was like using maybe a different name or whatever i didn't
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have the right credentials but it's just that i used a different stage name and the other reason
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to why and why i didn't take offense to this is because they had heightened security for this event
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i mean we're talking about the first event after charlie was assassinated so security was high
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cops were there um you know i saw a couple feds like they had a lot of security there so
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um i didn't take it offensive because i was like look security's heightened there's a name discrepancy
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they're just checking it out and that's where i was sitting there and when i was on the phone i was
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actually on the phone my guy gary um and gary came over to see what was going on uh my manager
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numbers guy that's the numbers guy yep yep yeah i think i saw i think i saw an aftermath video with
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you too from that yes so he he came over to see what was going on and he spoke to them as well
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and you know they they uh they cleared it up i'm waiting there whatever and they got they grabbed
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someone from turning point one of the higher end staff i met with the guy you know i'm gonna keep
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his name private very nice guy uh spoke with him and he was like hey man sorry there was a
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misunderstanding with the names uh you know just you know just please don't go too crazy whatever all
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right cool no problem um and that was it and and and i and we i just went back to going doing
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business and uh i was maybe there for like five ten minutes at most but that's the clip that
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everyone is like saying oh look he's getting he did some people said number one either i got kicked
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out or b i uh couldn't get in but i had already been in there for hours at that point right so i show
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up the next day that's the cooking monster hoodie day right so day one right i'm there with a t-shirt
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because i gave my hoodie to a supporter actually right i met a i met a kid he said hey i'm in the oss i
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love your content i gave him my hoodie i had a back to the kitchen hoodie right gave it to him
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that's why i had the fresh fish shirt when they when they stopped me then next day i show up with
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the cookie monster hoodie obviously i didn't go there thinking like yeah let me go viral yes
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like i showed up with the cooking monster hoodie because it's a fucking dope hoodie right so i show
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up your sales are up i'm sure the sales yeah they are yes it's stores right now guys by the way
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271k is the promo code six percent off uh so um so some idiot in the chat says slim ryan says gary
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manages a lot run like property disgraceful all right let me clear this up real quick for all the
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fucking pieces of shit out there because i get a lot of slack for working with gary let me make this
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crystal fucking clear to everybody gary is my guy gary makes sure when i say the crazy shit that i say
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that no one fucks with me you guys understand that right oh he's your handle whatever motherfucker
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no one handles me he makes sure that no one fucking comes after me he doesn't give a fuck
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right he stands by me 100 he's anti-zionist i don't give a fuck if he's a jew oh he's jewish and
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wait since when did i tell you guys i hate jews no he's a good dude and he stands by me we don't
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have to agree on numerology we don't have to agree on uh certain topics but he's a good dude he's a
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family man he's stuck by me he's helped me out when other people didn't so for anyone that talks
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shit about gary fuck you guys because when we're in the fucking background grinding and doing all
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the things that we do gary's there you bitch-ass niggas aren't so shut the fuck up i don't turn on
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my friends ever and it's very annoying how people say all this bullshit because i'll tell you this
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when i made that phone call and he showed up and he held and he was there that's the type of guy gary
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is so for all the people in here hating and all this other shit they're fucking retarded but anyway
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i digress so day two i come with the cookie monster hoodie right obviously they're mad what
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is this guy doing back here i thought he couldn't get in i thought he got kicked out and i'm there
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we're fresh now right so they're livid so i take a picture um with uh so jack comes up to us right
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because jack actually had talked to some people behind the scenes for us as well shout out to jack
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nice guy so friendly right we take a picture together i did not know that people were going to zero
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in on the fucking hoodie and get pissed off right and i'd taken a picture with a bunch of other
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people too i took a picture with uh with emily um from saves america with a bunch of podcasters i
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took something with uh the quartering everybody and i guess people got pissed off and they're like
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oh he's still here let's let's bitch about this now he has a hoodie on and it's anti-semitic
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so um that's kind of how all that transpired so when when i wasn't kicked out and they saw me on
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day two they were pissed off that's why i think i went viral i just love watching people jump to
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the conclusions when i know that they're wrong and so when i saw people piling on like dana lash
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like come on dana i mean i'm not so surprised by her uh you know she was the never trumper from 2016
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but it's like when i see all these people piling on it's just like hey you guys know you're not even
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right like you know that you don't even have your facts right here and uh but they they don't like
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truth tellers i would imagine did you see that stop anti-semitism shared your hoodie did you see
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that yeah i did i did oh what the hell happened sorry my camera just turned off um yeah no i did
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it's too spicy yeah no i did see that dude and the adl did too like a bunch of you got a double you
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got a double a double tap yeah adl uh i'm sure spLC is gonna you know they're gonna come by right
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after congratulations man this has to be great for sales i mean i don't know the margins on those
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hoodies i mean you've got to be record sales for you yeah it's it's good man it's good i you know
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and my thing is i put the promo code to just kind of give them like the middle finger like you guys
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are not gonna tell me what to do or what i can i can't say and shit you know so um but yeah i mean
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yeah it went viral or whatever you know uh it is what it is right that people just were pissed off
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because i guess they the the rumor was false and like everyone like made these youtube videos and
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i noticed too because like you were saying this earlier so many people made videos talking shit
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but like no one corrected the record after when they it was clear that they were lying and i tell
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people i encourage anyone if you know a youtuber that made a video on me saying i got kicked out and
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then didn't clarify to y'all that they were wrong you probably shouldn't watch that person anymore
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because it's very clear that no one has any type of journalistic integrity and that's the problem
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i would say like one of the main problems that we have when it comes to concert creators versus
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established media like concert creators have like no journalistic um integrity at all at least
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like fox cnn whatever they try right with influencers there's no oversight so they could
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say whatever they want with zero evidence and people are going to tune in so that's one of the that's
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really one of the main negatives i've seen with uh you know getting your news from influencers you
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got to be able to trust the guy so i encourage anyone if anybody told you this bullshit like i got
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kicked out or i didn't get let in or whatever and they haven't corrected the record you should
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probably stop watching them honestly because they actually doubled down they doubled down because
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that was my first instinct when i saw it because i was like okay i'll chase this story so i just i just
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sent you a message i was like yo what happened uh that was my first instinct was just to figure out
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what really happened to go to the best source which would be you and then they doubled down and
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said oh no i was wrong and then i had to double down on them and say i guess my sources are better
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than yours yeah you know you know here's here's another thing that i think um and this event the
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this this amfest was still kind of charlie kirk's creation um when they when they built this and and
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did the guest list and the speaker list uh that still had charlie kirk's fingerprints on it so
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we're still kind of in the era of the events that um charlie was able to kind of create and and
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formulate himself what's going to be interesting because this is where i see it going
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what the what the older generation conservatives are kind of the establishment conservative types
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what they don't understand yet is that we we like big tent politics we don't mind rubbing elbows with
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people we think are controversial or people we even disagree with we kind of like it um and i mean you
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you look at a you look at somebody like a jack basobiec who's about as establishment anti-establishment
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media as you get and he has no problem rubbing elbows with people that might be considered
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controversial yeah he has no problem going mainstream either um but the point is like when i see people
00:26:05.140
like dana lesh and all these normal you know old guard republican types trying to gatekeep they don't
00:26:11.440
understand we don't do that anymore the new generational whatever you want to call it new generational
00:26:15.860
right left anything the new generational political commentators the new generational political content
00:26:21.820
creators we don't do the gatekeeping we're not into the gatekeeping and it seems like their effort
00:26:27.860
because let's be honest the one area where the gatekeeping is really happening on the right is on
00:26:33.100
the israel issue they want to keep anybody out they want to keep anybody out that isn't all in for israel
00:26:38.540
uh and so they try to turn it into some anti-semitic thing that's the angle that they're using
00:26:43.000
but it's just not working and so they see this failure they see this failure to gatekeep and i think
00:26:49.260
that that's why it's almost like a denial right it's almost like a no myron wasn't allowed like it
00:26:56.000
can't be like nobody would have let myron in there it's not it's like no you don't understand we aren't
00:27:01.260
like you we we we like to we like to hang out with everybody and i think it's i think it's better for
00:27:07.300
the overall cause you know i had a debate earlier today with a guy named david kate you may be familiar
00:27:12.220
with his work he's he's kind of up and coming right now uh he's on the right he's definitely pro-israel
00:27:17.360
and we had a pretty solid conversation it got into a heated debate at times but you know what
00:27:22.580
we kind of realized at the end is like the difference i think the difference between the
00:27:26.840
new generation of political commentators and and whatever is left of the old guard it's like we
00:27:33.260
don't really at the end of the day we all kind of want the same thing like we may have a different
00:27:38.480
path or an idea or vision of how we're going to get there but we all kind of want the same thing
00:27:43.320
like we just want to be left alone we just want to be left alone we want to be able to hang out
00:27:47.600
with whoever we want to hang out with we don't want to be browbeat we don't want to be henpecked
00:27:51.620
we don't want to be gatekept we don't want to be censored we like the controversy we like the debate
00:27:56.420
and i think that the old guard is kind of scared of that i think that they're scared of that
00:28:00.540
and maybe that's because they know that that's just a sign of them getting replaced
00:28:04.540
and i think politically speaking myron i think we're two election cycles away from that from
00:28:09.520
that transition being complete and trying to cater politics and messaging to boomers i'd say we're
00:28:16.100
two election cycles away from that from that transition being over with bro i cannot agree
00:28:21.320
i mean me and you see we've talked so much off air and all this other stuff i can't agree anymore i see
00:28:26.600
eye to eye with you on this topic 100 like the main differentiating you know factor is are you pro
00:28:33.300
israel or not and the old guard like you said the neocons the people from the early 2000s etc
00:28:37.940
those boomers are on their last leg and i agree with you that 2028 is probably going to be the
00:28:43.960
last election if we keep going at this rate at least um where zionist influence is going to be
00:28:50.080
crazy and i'll tell you this owen because i called this a couple months ago i called i said if mamdani
00:28:54.920
wins mayor of new york city be prepared for not just the democratic party but eventually the republican
00:29:01.740
party to stop supporting israel the democratic party is already there i already i've already seen
00:29:07.000
saying i don't take a pack money now right even gavin newsom is starting to be more secretive
00:29:11.920
about where they get their where he gets his money um a pack is sent is trying to funnel through other
00:29:16.120
organizations to pay politicians so i think that's going to be uh for the democrats at least that's
00:29:22.000
going to be one of their main um tools that they're going to utilize to get back into the office
00:29:26.300
i agree with you that this probably won't take place at the republican party until eight years two
00:29:32.400
election cycles from now but for the democrats they're absolutely going to use it in 2028 and
00:29:36.900
and that kind of worries me because if jd vance runs uh and because i was having this conversation
00:29:41.700
on uh i think with uh with tim pool if if jd vance uh goes against newsom newsom might might win bro
00:29:48.260
like i think i don't i don't think unfortunately for vance very unliked who i like vance you know and
00:29:55.560
i think he's probably about as close to one of us that's left with trump's ear uh i just don't think
00:30:01.020
anybody from this administration is going to be electable at this point i mean it'd take a miracle
00:30:05.020
after this christmas disaster of the epstein files yeah uh it would it would take a miracle for anybody
00:30:11.080
from this administration to get elected but what i but i i let's go a little bit more into the weeds
00:30:15.720
here myron when aoc got elected i think it was 2018 yeah um you know that was the first taste that
00:30:24.320
the the kind of let's say radical far left got of oh okay we're in the door now right we're in the
00:30:31.000
door now and you saw kind of like you know some of the gavin newsom types were like okay we'll kind
00:30:36.220
of welcome you with open arms and then there was the chuck schumer nancy pelosi types were like hey
00:30:41.440
hold on there young hold on there young and like not yet it's not your time yet and so they kind of
00:30:46.520
they kind of calmed aoc down they kind of they kind of tampered it down they still delivered a bit
00:30:51.980
on the message but the policy just wasn't there they go with joe biden harris obviously fails so now
00:30:57.940
they're kind of recalibrating now i do agree the threshold moment was the mom donny victory
00:31:02.860
yep and and maybe add you know pelosi about to croak and getting out of congress is kind of the
00:31:07.720
backdrop here but the mom donny victory was the threshold moment where they definitely decided okay
00:31:12.860
now we're going with the younger generational left it's time for us to take over the party mom donny is
00:31:19.220
obviously going to be a charismatic leader whatever whatever role he serves the democrats as the mayor of new
00:31:23.860
york but they still have an aoc they got a lot of other communists up and coming behind them
00:31:28.260
and so i think 2026 actually i believe the democrats will run on an anti-israel message i think it's
00:31:35.780
going to be very direct i don't think they're going to mince words i don't think they're going to hide it
00:31:39.460
you mentioned the candidates rejecting apac money some are actually returning apac money they're
00:31:44.520
literally cutting a check back to apac from the money that they received so i think the democrats i think
00:31:49.740
they're going to run with that in 2026 i anticipate they'll be victorious now i don't know if you can
00:31:55.060
credit that one policy alone i think the damage done by the trump administration is maybe more to
00:32:01.580
blame the lack of action from republicans would be more to blame than whatever message they go with
00:32:05.900
but i do think 2026 the democrats are going to run on the anti-israel message and then like you said
00:32:11.480
are the republicans going to see that and adapt for 2028 or are they going to say no not yet let's let's
00:32:18.140
stick to the old guard and then lose in 2028 but to me this is inevitable it's inevitable where it's
00:32:23.420
going and i think the bullying and the intimidation factors are eventually just going to be overwhelmed
00:32:28.580
by the sheer numbers the sheer numbers are just not on the side of the israeli lobby the sheer numbers
00:32:33.880
are not on the side of any foreign policy that supports more foreign aid or more foreign war and so
00:32:39.120
i anticipate that this will happen and if i want to go a little deeper i say every single president
00:32:44.440
except biden because they stole that election but if you look at obama and you look at trump
00:32:50.040
really they won on going against the foreign policy like you could argue that obama and trump both won
00:32:59.140
because they were against the current status as far as foreign policy is concerned yep so i don't expect
00:33:04.020
that trend to change whoever gets elected in 2028 if you run against the current status quo on foreign
00:33:09.220
policy i think you win yeah and and i think that's going to be the tool that the democrats use because
00:33:15.440
what we've basically seen and i love how you mentioned like nancy pelosi chuck schumer these
00:33:19.800
like old card democrats right what they're being replaced now by socialist democrats right and it's
00:33:27.280
important also to know if you look at all the biggest left-wing streamers they're also uh socialist
00:33:33.840
democrats you look at a kyle kolinsky hassan pike or dean withers harry sisson like all these dudes
00:33:39.700
are socialist type democrats unlike some of the old guard democrat uh commentators like a dave
00:33:47.860
pakman right that won't talk about israel but he's been around for damn near 20 years so uh so we're not
00:33:53.700
only seeing this shift you know at the political level but we're also even seeing it at the commentating
00:33:57.700
level where the democrats i think are going to lean on the republicans made life unaffordable for you
00:34:02.960
we're going to make sure that you guys you get health care we're going to make sure that you guys
00:34:06.200
have access to groceries and food we're going to make sure that the government subsidizes so food
00:34:10.160
is affordable we're going to get you guys free transportation um and we're also not going to
00:34:14.420
take money from israel i think this is going to be the mantra that the democrats are going to campaign
00:34:19.480
under because they've lost the young men right so the old guard uh you know democrat was like oh yeah
00:34:26.760
we're going to lean into race politics and minorities and pro-immigration whatever that doesn't work
00:34:31.260
anymore now people are going to be more concerned with um affordability foreign policy and not you
00:34:38.600
know being uh not participating in a genocide right so that's like because that's like a really big weak
00:34:43.360
point for so many progressive commentators that are pro-israel is being pro-israel is completely
00:34:48.640
antithetical to progressive values i mean you're literally supporting an apartheid ethno state that's
00:34:54.160
conducted a genocide i mean of even us over here on the right we understand that we you know normally
00:34:59.720
conservatives don't use this type of terminology but the truth is the truth right i don't mean to
00:35:03.800
sound like a leftist but that's what israel is it's literally a supremacy ethno state that is running
00:35:09.440
an apartheid so um that just did a genocide so to be a progressive now at this point i think the
00:35:15.320
mamdani uh campaign sealed the deal leverage social media leverage being anti-israel leverage
00:35:22.600
uh affordability leverage socialism and i think that's how they're going to be able to bring people
00:35:26.560
in and i think that's this tool they're going to use to bring the young men back because their
00:35:31.260
crazy woke ideology of just tolerating a whole bunch of bs oh yeah let's let gays man let's do
00:35:36.200
this blah blah let's let women run things that ostracized young men and that's why so many young
00:35:41.060
men are more conservative now because and me and you are a bit older you know i always say millennials
00:35:46.660
like in our age group we messed it up for everybody else like we were the ones that put obama and we
00:35:50.420
were the one that put in this you know race politics you know everyone's equal egalitarian
00:35:54.760
mindset in everyone's minds and luckily the young guys now they're way more based than we were when
00:36:00.500
we were their age you know so um yeah for the record i never voted for obama just for the record
00:36:06.120
yeah yeah yeah but i mean me i'm older i'm a little older than you but yeah but it's not well i could
00:36:10.380
have in 2008 twice yeah i could have twice but no i also think that if the economy keeps going the way
00:36:15.860
it's going you know we basically are in a have and have not economy and trump's messaging is not
00:36:21.000
helping and the polls show it the polls show in every indicator on the left there's no doubt they
00:36:26.280
want communism like they just want it they're socialists they're communists they'll vote for it
00:36:30.740
and on the right i think you're going to see this kind of desperation mentality it's not going to be a
00:36:36.340
majority but it'll be enough where young people on the right are just going to say you know i don't
00:36:42.620
really have this romantic relationship with free market capitalism but you know what i do have an
00:36:47.360
empty bank account and i don't know how i'm going to afford my bills uh health care forget about that
00:36:53.820
owning a home in my wildest dreams so i think that eventually they're just going to make a pragmatic
00:36:58.900
decision whether they believe in it or not they're just going to say you know well he says he's going
00:37:05.040
to give me this so i'll just go out and vote because the last the last guy um delivered me a have
00:37:10.440
and have not economy and then told me i was richer than ever in the golden age and it's just not true
00:37:14.660
so trump is kind of pushing them to that um and it's really wild it's actually really wild to watch
00:37:20.920
we thought that trump was going to create a generational run of conservative men a generational
00:37:25.760
run of republican politics and he basically sold it all out he basically sold it all out for the
00:37:30.500
israeli lobby he sold it all out for the special interests and now i'd say trump is it'd be more
00:37:35.840
accurate to predict that trump could destroy the republican party for a couple election cycles instead of
00:37:41.900
delivering um you know multiple election cycles of victory at least at this stage in the game and i
00:37:47.060
don't think it looks like it's going to change uh that's where i see things trending yeah i mean um
00:37:51.720
you know when he ran back in 2016 he was able to be a bit more authentic because he was you know he
00:37:57.300
funded his own campaign pretty much took way less donations but i think the thing that you know really
00:38:01.860
hurt trump is people forget he got indicted four different times it's like kind of a distant memory now at
00:38:07.640
this point but the guy got indicted in four different jurisdictions he had two federal cases
00:38:12.100
two state two state cases a bunch of lawsuits of people trying to sue him women coming out saying
00:38:16.460
he he graped them whatever those are expensive lawyer fees man so um he definitely needed uh that money
00:38:23.680
the zinus lobby money to be able to run effectively and if he didn't win this presidency i've said it before
00:38:28.740
he would have died in prison if he did not win this off win this term in the office he would have
00:38:32.960
absolutely died in prison dude now i wonder what happens if he if we don't win the midterms i mean
00:38:36.940
they're going to impeach him uh yeah they are and not only that i i think i predict uh that maybe not
00:38:42.280
now but if a democrat ever gets in i i think they're going to go after hexeth um and everybody
00:38:47.860
in the chain of command for these kinetic strikes on these boats i think they're like i know people
00:38:51.380
are saying oh well myron it's legal they're foreign cabats whatever i'm not saying that it's
00:38:55.620
a legality thing what i'm saying is that the democrats are going to try to find a way to get these guys for
00:39:00.340
something because that's unheard of blowing up drug boats yeah and some of them aren't drug boats and some of
00:39:05.940
weren't even from columbia facts and uh so that's going to be an issue too i also think that this
00:39:11.120
whole epstein debacle is opening up windows i really do i don't i don't really know into what
00:39:16.140
but i think you know like trump came out in one of the craziest things he's ever said in his political
00:39:21.360
career the other day where he says that thomas massey is the bad guy and the weird guy but not bill
00:39:26.280
clinton yeah and so that was just a wild clip i mean to me that was the indicator it was like oh my god
00:39:32.220
like this guy really i don't even know what to think anymore other than he's just so far removed
00:39:36.700
from us now that he doesn't he has no touch like there's not even the satellite can't even get
00:39:41.840
connection anymore there's no bars right it's not low bars there's no bars but he comes out he's like
00:39:47.100
whoa gee you know the democrats they don't seem to mind much about the bill clinton pictures you know
00:39:52.900
yeah no shit no shit the old guard democrats are gone bro yeah yeah you're right the younger
00:39:59.600
democrats they don't give a shit if they burn bill clinton's legacy to the ground they could not
00:40:04.480
care less as long as it doesn't tarnish obama as long as kamala harris doesn't yap too much
00:40:10.840
uh yeah i don't think that i don't think that they mind burning whatever was left of the old
00:40:15.060
guard democrat establishment at the ground at all if that means bill clinton they couldn't care less
00:40:19.200
even hillary i don't think that they care so you know i i feel that trump is either totally
00:40:24.560
disconnected or he's getting bad advice or the gatekeeping is so extreme maybe all three
00:40:29.280
that he just doesn't understand and i said this a couple weeks ago and i think i think that now
00:40:34.680
i feel like i was right you know we heard from years the walls are closing in remember that we'd
00:40:40.180
hear for you the walls are closing in on trump the walls are closing in now it was never true
00:40:44.580
three weeks ago i said you know what this actually looks like that moment this actually looks like
00:40:50.260
the walls are closing in moment somebody somebody messed up big with those boat strikes i believe
00:40:55.720
somebody messed up yeah maybe maybe even set him up quite frankly maybe even set him up and now with
00:41:02.100
the epstein debacle uh they they rigged the inflation numbers by the way those were rigged now in their
00:41:08.720
defense they didn't have the data because the government was closed but they gave you false data they gave you a
00:41:13.020
rigged number um now i look at it i'm like wow the walls really are closing in and bongino leaves
00:41:18.560
yeah oh my gosh bongino leaves i think that i think we see why that's going on now as well
00:41:23.520
i theorize that bongino might open the floodgates if you start to see others leave like a caroline
00:41:29.920
levitt or if you start to see others leave this administration um i think for bongino to be honest
00:41:36.620
with you i think what bongino man that was more of a a career move because you know you go from making
00:41:42.320
hundreds of thousands of dollars hundreds of thousands of dollars a month to um working
00:41:47.860
for the fbi as the deputy director people don't know like because i used to be a government agent
00:41:51.760
myself um as as deputy director you're probably not going to clear more than like 200 to 300k a year
00:41:58.640
you know a year bongino was probably making that a month when he was a podcaster but he doesn't need
00:42:03.920
the money though he doesn't need the money yeah but you keep in mind also that the longer he stays in
00:42:08.720
and the more they fuck up this epstein debacle while he's at the helm the more credibility he
00:42:13.120
loses well so it's like yeah yeah that's why i think i'm looking at that yeah i'm looking at that
00:42:17.660
more than the money angle i think it was i think it's both stick around here yeah the more i stick
00:42:22.680
around here the worse i look how do i go back to my audience which you could already i think ask that
00:42:26.740
question i don't know what he does go he has to go back to his audience empty-handed um i i think the
00:42:32.480
pipe bomb was his main thing that's why if you notice once they caught the pipe bomb guy
00:42:36.260
he was you know hey i came in even think that's the real guy i read the affidavit um they they do
00:42:43.620
have some pretty convincing evidence with you know south side and everything else like that so so they
00:42:47.340
do um you know it seems like a convincing case we'll see what happens um but i think for bongino and
00:42:53.760
here's the thing okay i'm going to be very critical but i'm also going to be very um honest
00:42:58.520
and i was talking about this with with jeremy actually from the quartering in detail but i'll also
00:43:04.480
give a more uh summarized version here the fbi historically has been an agency that has been
00:43:11.620
known for being famous but incompetent right lazy agents don't want to go out and do surveillance
00:43:16.280
and arrest people they don't want to really carry cases the average fbi agent contrary to popular
00:43:20.820
belief might make one criminal arrest every five years for their own case right typically every field
00:43:28.040
office is going to have like maybe 10 20 rock star agents that are running big cases everybody else
00:43:33.020
it's just they're kind of you know riding on the coattails that's how it works the federal
00:43:36.260
government so bongino and cash patel coming in removed a lot of debriocracy told these guys they
00:43:43.700
got to get out there told them they got to start working with the state and locals told them they
00:43:46.420
got to start you know making arrests and doing everything so when it comes to stopping like you know
00:43:51.020
your traditional violent crime and crime in general they did a fantastic job of bringing the numbers up
00:43:55.880
i think they did a good job of transparency now let me be clear about this prior to cash and bongino
00:44:02.420
coming in the fbi was horrible completely deplorable i'm not saying that they made it fantastic hell no
00:44:08.880
i think it was really bad and bongino and patel coming in made it bad does does that make sense like
00:44:15.880
it was very bad now it's just bad right so we it's it's a very small margin that was uh improved
00:44:21.700
uh but it was so bad it was only up from here right we're talking about chris ray only uh declassified
00:44:27.280
something like 15 000 documents his entire tenure versus patel has declassified 33 000 documents uh in
00:44:34.000
the 11 months or so that he's been here so or the year so and and the reason the thing is the reason
00:44:41.160
why i can appreciate these things i know people are probably saying like my right how could you say
00:44:44.720
that blah blah as a guy that used to be a former agent that understands what it's like to be an 1811
00:44:49.140
that understands how agencies work and everything else like this understands the red tape and i've
00:44:53.220
worked very closely with fbi i know how they are this is a lot better than where they used to be
00:44:57.320
it's still not good though i want to be explicitly clear about that it's still not good but it is
00:45:01.520
better and now when it comes to bongino i think it's a combination of losing hundreds of thousand
00:45:06.380
dollars a month on top of losing credibility so it's like a double whammy he's burning a candle
00:45:10.740
from both ends because on one end he's losing this money and he's losing the credibility so let's assume
00:45:15.260
the money doesn't matter well when he comes back when if the credibility is is shot that's going
00:45:20.420
to affect the money at some point so um i think for him it's more of a credibility and long-term
00:45:26.360
career move which i don't i don't knock him for it you know let me make this clear too like i don't
00:45:30.340
knock him for wanting to go back uh but yeah it's it that's the thing i that's the reason why i think
00:45:36.700
he's going back which is completely understandable and honestly the best decision because this fc thing is
00:45:41.980
fucking terrible bro it was such a debacle it's so bad i mean it is so bad and and like it's kind
00:45:48.340
of a sinking ship and you know he i think he understands that that's always going to be a
00:45:51.440
blemish on his on his record right um and he's just getting out early but i think with cash and
00:45:56.360
trump and everything this is going to follow them and the thing that sucks is cash patel has done some
00:45:59.840
good work bro he really has like if you look at the numbers like again i can analyze the numbers
00:46:04.180
because i used to do this type of work i can appreciate it but the american public doesn't give a fuck
00:46:08.320
man because this epstein thing has been absolutely dominating the news cycle where they don't even get
00:46:13.000
um recognition for all the other stuff that they do and this is the fault of multiple people this
00:46:17.000
isn't just the fault of pam bonnie and cash patel this is the fault of donald trump this is the fault
00:46:21.620
of tulsi gabbard this is the fault of everybody from the ic uh we're not declassifying these uh epstein
00:46:27.880
files uh in a timely fashion so that's kind of uh my take on it i wonder what's gonna happen i i'm
00:46:36.220
guessing he's gonna lean on you know some form of a non-disclosure claim that hey he can't talk
00:46:43.220
about this stuff oh yeah he won't be able to talk about any of it yeah yeah because his audience is
00:46:48.640
going to look at him and say i don't even know how many people believe the pipe bomber but um they're
00:46:53.520
going to say you know epstein deep state arrest like you know you're kind of coming back to your
00:46:57.900
audience empty-handed here this is going to be a little awkward so it'll be interesting to see how
00:47:02.400
that kind of goes for him but but to me the other takeaway of that is i also heard him and pam bonnie
00:47:09.200
don't get along that that's what i heard i don't know i don't know if i think everybody's frustrated
00:47:13.020
with pam bonnie at this point um she seems like a really sweet lady but as far as getting anything
00:47:17.220
done yeah i don't think anybody's really happy with that but my you know my other thing with the
00:47:21.900
bongino departure is if dan really still believed that this administration was going to do what we
00:47:29.560
want it to do if dan really still believed that this administration was going to say get deep state
00:47:34.680
arrest drain the swamp whatever end the corruption then obviously he would make the same measurements
00:47:39.560
in the reverse order and say okay i have to stick around because then when i leave my legacy is going
00:47:45.320
to be like this you know i'm going to return to my podcast as a fucking hero so i've got to stick here
00:47:51.120
for four years and finish this work because then when i go back you know it's going to be like a king's
00:47:54.880
welcome so to me the fact that he's leaving was like a red flag to me it was like hey guys it ain't
00:48:01.700
happening it ain't happening and i gotta get out now before the the career damage is done um because
00:48:08.060
if i go back empty-handed in four years it looks a lot worse than four months yeah not only that you
00:48:13.320
know as deputy director he's not really calling the shots right like it's cash patel and and bondi that
00:48:19.000
are calling the shots so like he doesn't even have really 100 control of what's going on here
00:48:24.880
so i i think from it from his perspective um not only does he want to probably do more or
00:48:31.640
or thinks maybe he's capable of doing more he can't do it because he doesn't have the reins right
00:48:36.040
um so i i yeah it's just this epstein thing bro is a dumpster fire it literally is going to be a big
00:48:42.960
blemish on all these guys records unfortunately um and i know they're releasing the documents now but
00:48:47.680
you see that they had to like take some of the documents back because they didn't uh you know
00:48:51.100
redact all the people's names and shit it's just so bad yeah it's so bad this whole thing and it's
00:48:56.480
clear now it's it's pretty clear some people had theorized before but i think it's clear now
00:49:00.720
when they talk about victims they're actually talking about clients that's the victims now they're saying
00:49:06.720
you know their argument here their logic is that the victim is the person being blackmailed right so
00:49:12.280
okay the victim is the person that um let's say raped the girl or graped the girl or groped the
00:49:18.220
youngin or had the minor whatever they're saying that was the victim of epstein's blackmail so they're
00:49:23.700
kind of conflating the actual victims of the crimes the actual the actual ladies that were the victims
00:49:28.380
of the crimes they're conflating it with the with the with the perps but they're saying they were
00:49:33.520
victims too uh because they didn't realize they were in some entrapment scheme or whatever it was
00:49:38.360
from epstein uh i think that it's pretty clear that that was the logic that they were using here
00:49:42.260
when they say we're protecting the victims uh but they blew it badly you know here's a question since
00:49:47.420
you've been there yeah how could they have blown this so badly is it really just the incompetence
00:49:52.460
of pam bondi because this isn't like something that just landed on their desk even a couple months ago
00:49:56.960
this has been sitting in the southern district of new york this has been sitting in the fbi for more
00:50:02.440
than 10 years i mean this is a 10 year old file how can they sit here and say oh we need time
00:50:07.960
so as someone that's like looked through case files before and how complex it could be so there's
00:50:13.840
multiple problems with why we didn't get what we needed in a timely fashion so and this is what i
00:50:19.700
mean when i say like we can't just blame cash patel and pam bondi we got to hold the whole federal
00:50:22.940
government accountable so to understand this epstein right we know was an intelligence asset for
00:50:28.880
israeli intelligence right one of these agencies whether it's massage shin bet whatever he was providing
00:50:34.280
some type of information to a foreign government's intelligence services off of that alone that is
00:50:41.640
going to have a cia file i already know because it's international i'm sure there's a dia file
00:50:47.820
there's probably an nsa file and multiple other uh intelligence component agencies have a file on
00:50:54.400
epstein the fbi is also has the intel file on epstein and they also have a criminal case file on epstein
00:51:01.760
and the two are different because in the criminal case everything's got to come to light right for
00:51:06.300
prosecution the sex trafficking etc but all the other stuff that he was doing with the foreign
00:51:11.300
governments all the other stuff or who he was blackmailing or whatever that's going to be on
00:51:14.580
the high side which is what we call classified and that stuff can't make it into court so since that
00:51:18.400
stuff can't make it into court um you have to go through a different route to get it if that makes
00:51:22.860
sense so i think a big problem here is that we didn't leave we didn't put enough pressure on the
00:51:29.360
intelligence community the ic and tulsi gabbard to get us this stuff we put all the blame on pam
00:51:34.520
bondi and cash patel which they're they're uh responsible too but there's definitely way more
00:51:40.080
stuff and i'll give you an i'll tell you what i mean by this i was watching cash patel's um testimony
00:51:45.520
uh right after charlie kirk died remember he had to go up and testify i think in front of the senate
00:51:48.940
after charlie kirk was assassinated asked her answer questions about the fbi they asked him one of the
00:51:53.440
people hey what's the deal dev scene files why did you guys not release them and what cash said
00:51:58.960
was very clever but i don't think i don't know if people notice this he said i've released everything
00:52:03.520
that i can legally release and when he said that i knew okay there's a high side classified stuff and
00:52:10.520
then there's a criminal side he's basically saying we released all the criminal stuff and the stuff
00:52:15.240
that's been declassified but there's other stuff that isn't declassified that needs to get out there
00:52:20.660
and i suspect that it's probably from the intelligence agencies like nsaci or whatever
00:52:25.040
because fbi might have these documents but they can't release them because the way the government
00:52:29.040
works is if you have classified information um and it's not and it's it was lended it lent to you by
00:52:34.880
another agency legally you cannot share that information with anyone else because you don't
00:52:39.460
make the call if it's going to be classified or not because it is not fbi sourced material you might
00:52:43.960
have it if you're lucky enough but you absolutely can't share it and that has to come from them
00:52:48.240
wasn't that the law that bill clinton signed that they ultimately determined was why they couldn't
00:52:53.620
share intelligence before 9-11 or is that the same process yeah so there's this rule um in the in the
00:53:00.040
government even now post 9-11 where um there's like a third agency rule so like if you have information
00:53:06.480
and you got it from an agency you can't pass it to another agency without getting confirmation from
00:53:10.540
that agency now when it comes to terrorism uh fbi is always going to take the lead on that right you
00:53:15.600
have to if you get something with terrorism you have to pass it over to them and let them
00:53:18.500
investigate it you could be involved in a case or whatever as well um if there's an excess to
00:53:22.700
terrorism but they're going to take it but in general uh information sharing has always been
00:53:26.960
a problem of the federal government i mean hell we know cash patel got in it with i think
00:53:31.420
Tulsi Gabbard and her uh who's this who's their number two guy um i forget his name joe kent
00:53:36.740
right i know they had gotten into it because they were snooping around on a charlie kirk thing and you
00:53:42.720
know it's a criminal case whatever but the point i'm trying to make is that the fbi and the cia have
00:53:46.800
never liked each other and for us to get everything we need to go through the ic as well and that's
00:53:52.580
where i think they've messed up a lot you know Tulsi Gabbard i think has uh kind of strategically
00:53:59.260
stayed quiet and behind the scenes and it seems like when she does have to make a public statement it
00:54:05.440
almost seems like a hostage situation you know my theory with my theory with Gabbard is that she cut a
00:54:12.100
deal with trump sometime along the campaign trail basically she was like okay you know i'll i'll
00:54:18.240
i'll drop out and endorse you but you're going to give me a role in this administration and i'll win
00:54:23.400
over some of that trust with some of those centrist liberals some of the libertarians that like me
00:54:27.560
i'll win over i'll win over some of that trust we'll translate that to votes but you're going to
00:54:33.060
put me in your administration now they may have they may have agreed to the exact role at that time or
00:54:37.680
not but that's how i think Tulsi Gabbard ended up in the administration and i think that she's very
00:54:43.080
my reading of it is that she's very uncomfortable right now you know she's basically contradicting
00:54:48.780
she's contradicting everything that she said four years ago i think i think she knows that she's kind
00:54:54.240
of in a hostage situation but she wants to stay there because i think she cares i think she cares about
00:55:00.380
the country she wants to know what's going on behind the scenes but she's staying strategically
00:55:04.700
quiet but when she does pop up and make a statement you're like you know hey blink twice
00:55:09.480
if you're you know if you're in trust you're spot on i'll get i'm gonna strengthen your argument right
00:55:13.860
now first remember she said iran doesn't have nukes and then she completely switched her tone
00:55:19.100
you're you're 100 right owen like she's absolutely uh you know given an sos and you know anyone that
00:55:25.360
understands uh what she said before versus now will know that because i'll i'll remember i remember
00:55:31.940
vividly she went and testified and said yeah at this point iran does not have a capable nuclear
00:55:36.540
program is for energy purposes only then as soon as israel wanted to attack them uh and they did
00:55:43.120
the sneak attack and everything else like that she had to roll it back and be like oh yeah we do think
00:55:47.540
that they have nuclear weapons now blah blah it's bullshit bro and um and and now it's actually you
00:55:52.420
know since it's relevant to the conversation we're gonna see a war probably in 2026 man i think israel
00:55:57.400
and iran are absolutely gonna go to war they've both been mobilizing uh netanyahu's coming to the
00:56:02.200
white house very soon uh and and you know they're using the guise of oh we're gonna go uh we're gonna
00:56:07.580
come and talk about hezbollah and lebanon and disarming uh hezbollah which for my audience guys
00:56:11.700
i'll cover this in more detail don't worry after we i talk with owen but um but what i really think
00:56:17.600
they're going to meet about is is um striking iran again they're using the hezbollah thing as like
00:56:22.700
the main topic but the real topic is going to be iran because they did this bullshit the last time
00:56:26.360
when he was here in march and he said i'm here for tariffs no bro he was there for fucking
00:56:32.060
operation rising line which they did three months later so we we already had the trend show up on
00:56:36.860
some pretense three months later you're fucking attacking iran and i think that's exactly what's
00:56:42.300
gonna happen here and think about it like this maybe maybe the trump administration or trump himself
00:56:47.880
would would have been hesitant or instinctually would have said you know what hey enough is enough
00:56:53.140
we gave you your strikes what's something else we can do here but now who needs a distraction more
00:56:59.840
than donald trump who needs a distraction more than president trump no one that's who not even
00:57:06.340
netanyahu i think trump needs a distraction more so than netanyahu well what's a greater distraction
00:57:10.960
than blowing some stuff up there's no greater distraction than blowing some stuff up so i agree
00:57:15.700
with your analysis i think that's going to be i think we're going to enter 2026 pretty pretty fast and
00:57:22.000
it's going to be flash bang boom and we're looking at another potential war and and uh netanyahu is up
00:57:27.800
for re-election soon so i think i think for him getting into a war is going to give him wartime powers
00:57:34.200
where just like zelensky he won't have to go anywhere so i i predict that that's that's what's
00:57:38.480
going to happen and you know they're using the excuse of oh they've rearmed their ballistic missiles
00:57:42.900
and it's a threat against our security first it was nuclear weapons then it was the then it was um
00:57:48.160
you know their uranium is too high then it was the now it's going to be there they still have a
00:57:52.480
ballistic missile program blah blah because when they were um i remember when they were negotiating
00:57:56.400
with steve wickhoff like they had been going back and forth where you know first it was hey you can't
00:58:01.400
enrich at this level all right cool we won't enrich at that level oh you know what you can't enrich at
00:58:04.340
all what oh and we need you to get that now okay cool oh now we need you guys to get rid of your
00:58:09.240
ballistic missile program so they just keep asking for more and more and that's why they ran is like what the
00:58:12.920
fuck bro and i think that they were doing that and trump even admitted this to stall for time
00:58:17.840
so that they to give the israelis the time to be able to get behind enemy lines and blow them up
00:58:22.120
and i'll tell you something else interesting too that i found out oh and i'd love to get your take
00:58:26.500
on this so john karakow a guy that used to work for the cia he went on a podcast like a week ago
00:58:32.980
oh you know i'm dude i gotta get him on my show have you talked to him before or not
00:58:35.760
yeah yeah i can probably hook that up for you oh you're the man dude um i'll look i'll look into
00:58:40.440
that 40 when we get off here you're the man um but i'll and i'm curious to see if you had seen
00:58:44.700
this interview then so he did an interview uh like a week or two ago and he said that according
00:58:50.000
to his sources the reason why trump bombed uh iran is because and bombed the nuclear facilities etc
00:58:56.700
is because israel threatened to use nuclear weapons if the united states didn't and that's very scary
00:59:03.980
because this isn't the first time that the israelis have threatened to do this and now it makes
00:59:08.940
sense because i remember i remember me and you were pissed off remember when we uh when we were
00:59:12.580
um uh talking about this conflict and saying like what the fuck is going on why is he going to war
00:59:16.760
we said no new wars like the whole base was pissed everybody was like why are you trying to fight with
00:59:21.380
iran this is bullshit now it makes sense because then trump goes on and says i stopped world war three
00:59:25.740
none of us knew what the fuck he meant but what he really meant was i bombed these nuclear facilities
00:59:30.260
to prevent israel from using a nuclear bomb and it gets better the reason why israel said i'm going to
00:59:35.980
use we're going to use nuclear bombs and the mainstream media never covered this is because
00:59:39.920
iran was fucking tel aviv up dude they were absolutely destroying them they were bombing the
00:59:45.740
hell out of haifa they're bombing the hell out of tel aviv they're hitting all their strategic sites
00:59:50.020
so israel purposely didn't let um reporters report on that because they didn't want the iranians to know
00:59:56.980
what they were successfully bombed and which one they did and now it's leaking a few months later
01:00:00.900
because they couldn't keep it under wraps for long but it's all making sense israel attacks iran
01:00:05.520
iran is blind for 24 hours 24 hours later iran sends them a whole bunch of missiles israel defends
01:00:11.500
against some of the missiles but a lot get through they send hypersonics and a couple others that got
01:00:15.680
through it started destroying the infrastructure they knew they couldn't sustain the war for long
01:00:19.420
because on top of that their interceptors were going down they tell trump we need a ceasefire if you
01:00:23.500
don't fucking broker this ceasefire we're going to nuke them trump putting in a bad spot with his
01:00:27.880
base pressured all right i'm going to use a nuclear bomb i'm sorry i'm going to bomb their
01:00:32.620
facilities and then end this war and now it makes sense why he did what he did based on what john
01:00:36.960
karakau uh said yeah and let's add a little more color to that too trump came out in 2023 i believe
01:00:44.960
during a tv interview and he basically said we did a head fake in syria he said in 2017 and 18 we did a
01:00:53.320
head fake in syria i think he did the same thing with iran i think he called up iran and he said
01:00:58.360
look guys i'm coming all right i'm coming you have 12 hours okay we're dropping a bomb on this facility
01:01:04.760
you know it's coming you're going to let our people fly in you're going to let us bomb this facility
01:01:09.760
this is the path of least resistance because israel is going to hit you with a nuke and there's nothing
01:01:14.020
i can do to stop it so you're going to let our boys fly in you're going to let us bomb this facility
01:01:18.720
you got 12 hours to get your shit out of there and we're dropping the bomb and we're going to come
01:01:23.320
out and we're going to declare victory and remember after that netanyahu was like oh they didn't really
01:01:28.120
hit it and trump was like emphatically like we destroyed it stop it it's over stop just stop it
01:01:32.880
we blew it up it was like a please don't and netanyahu was like oh you barely damaged it and so
01:01:37.620
you go back to the syria thing and you realize you know i feel like you kind of only get once i feel
01:01:43.800
like you only get one shot at that it's like all right we're gonna let you do the head fake right now
01:01:47.900
this is the position we're in but now look at the situation in syria obviously assad has fallen
01:01:53.120
uh jolani's taken over al-qaeda isis masad operative runs it now israel's taking the land so you kind of
01:01:59.940
get the feeling that the same situation is starting to play out in iran and again even if trump
01:02:05.020
instinctually or his administration is like hey this is different we don't want involved here
01:02:09.500
um they might be behind the wall they might be back against the wall right now and feel like hey we
01:02:15.420
need a distraction and who knows what else because let's remember too before we started getting these
01:02:21.280
epstein file drops somebody was drip drip dripping to the media against trump remember that somebody
01:02:27.280
was drip drip dripping to the media the letters coming yeah this wasn't coming from u.s intelligence
01:02:32.800
okay so we can only assume um but that could start to happen again so all of these things kind of
01:02:38.960
factor in right when we enter 2026 and i feel like you know trump is kind of entering the new year
01:02:44.460
a little less comfortable and if i think about vengeance i feel like trump's vengeance is no
01:02:50.660
longer going to be against the deep state i feel like it's against us now i feel like his vengeance
01:02:54.540
is against us i feel like his vengeance is against us because we won't support him no matter what
01:02:59.760
i feel like our unc he wants unconditional loyalty and support he said as much he's not getting it
01:03:05.220
and so now i'm just worried he's just going to say fuck it i'm just going to do what i want to do i'm
01:03:10.160
going to enrich my friends and family we're going to build this this new ai quantum computing data
01:03:14.980
center infrastructure and uh the hell with my base if they don't support me the hell with my base if
01:03:20.580
they want to see the epstein files screw them we're going to go ahead and take our own path and by the
01:03:25.000
way i don't have to run for re-election again so um that's kind of where i see it going and these
01:03:29.360
are the two smartest men on the internet right here so let us cook yeah no it's it's uh that's i mean
01:03:35.100
very interesting analysis that has me you know thinking because i mean we we hell i mean he ran
01:03:40.760
he ran a crypto coin right when he came in right so he might have already had that mindset from
01:03:44.320
before like i need to make a bunch of money because also like we discussed before his legal troubles
01:03:48.620
put him in a very bad spot donald trump is the only president that went in at a certain net worth
01:03:53.300
and came back out poor like if you forget that every other president that comes in every politician
01:03:58.000
that goes in goes in making a certain amount of money and comes out a multi multi-millionaire
01:04:02.460
trump went in as like a billionaire multi-billionaire and his net worth went down from going up i mean
01:04:07.660
obviously he's still very rich don't get it twisted but his net worth went down when he came out the
01:04:11.880
first time so and then on top of that you had all the legal bills and everything you know i think he
01:04:15.960
did have to say we know we got to look out for us and he's not gonna run again so and his health is
01:04:21.120
obviously we know that his he has health problems with the the bulging of his ankles and stuff like
01:04:26.220
that so yeah dude we'll we'll see we'll see what happens but i mean i i i think a war with iran is
01:04:32.500
inevitable at this point the israelis are already drumming up an excuse and now it's going to be
01:04:35.880
their ballistic missile program first it was uranium then it was their nuclear program blah blah and i
01:04:40.180
also like the fact that you mentioned you know you wouldn't be surprised if uh trump didn't notify
01:04:44.540
the iranians that they were going to hit him because i'll tell you this they came in at night
01:04:48.800
they bombed the facilities and that's it when when the united states bombed iran i don't think there
01:04:52.780
were any casualties they literally got in bombed the facilities got the hell out no one died and
01:04:57.940
i don't know if you heard this story i remember when they bombed the first time people said that
01:05:02.680
they snuck out like somewhere between one to four hundred kilos of uranium so your your theory your
01:05:08.380
analysis makes sense no one got killed they got the uranium out and trump was able to end the war
01:05:15.600
as amicably as possible and then for and then on top of that what did the iranians do
01:05:20.620
they sent a symbolic strike towards the base in qatar a symbolic strike that didn't hit anything
01:05:27.940
so yeah i i think you're uh i think you're spot on on that bro that they have to keep up the image
01:05:34.760
that we're willing to fight we have military superpower but do we really want a war no
01:05:39.520
i'm just doing the puka nakuha yeah of course yes yes we have to do the yes the puka nakuha that's
01:05:45.900
yeah meanwhile bet netanyahu's in the background like this the whole time like yes
01:05:49.260
kuka nakuha 225 and two tutties baby 225 and two tutties so that's that's what that is but like
01:05:56.400
yeah dude it's uh but i i think that's a really good analysis and i think it's one of the two is
01:06:01.360
going to happen by springtime next year why they're going to have a full-on invasion with venezuela or
01:06:06.400
be an unarmed conflict with a conflict with them or we're going to be supporting israel uh in the fight
01:06:12.380
against iran because israel cannot defend itself man they don't have the interceptor missiles like
01:06:16.840
if that war had kept going tell them we would have been flattened that war actually favored the
01:06:21.740
iranians the way they were fighting it or we're spread too thin russia and china decide to act
01:06:27.180
india pakistan pops off who knows what happens but you know what in the meantime merry christmas
01:06:33.020
let's all have a merry christmas let's all have a great time this this christmas holiday new years
01:06:38.720
let's let's uh enjoy life before uh things start get a little crazy huh yeah because i mean
01:06:44.660
dude the nuclear warfare i was talking with jackson ankle about this um apparently germany's ramping
01:06:50.880
up uh you know creating uh military products uh and they estimate that there could be this war can
01:06:57.140
go into like 2030 so germany's like ramping up production so well they're telling europeans to get
01:07:02.520
ready to go to the front lines yeah yeah yeah if you look at like german twitter sorry if you look at
01:07:07.740
like european twitter yeah you're right dude like oh man it's bad and like that that conflict is what
01:07:13.400
scares me the most because russia is a very formidable enemy and and they have nukes and
01:07:17.580
they have appointed all of our major cities russia's no joke you know it's fucking nuts dude and i think
01:07:23.260
trump kind of gave up on it like i because i was i was hoping he'd be able to do something um and i know
01:07:27.740
you got to get out of here soon if you if you need to get out of here bro just let me know when you
01:07:30.820
want to you got to roll um but one of the main reasons i voted for trump is i wanted no new wars because
01:07:36.420
you know it's one thing to deal with inflation everything else but i think one of the things that
01:07:40.260
we have zero control over is if we get into a war and it affects all of us right you can always make
01:07:45.440
more money deal with inflation that way whatever yeah it sucks you know portability is you know down
01:07:50.420
but uh if there's nuclear warfare none of this matters yeah and the human cost isn't worth it and
01:07:57.020
i think that that's what a lot of people on the right and the left have reached the conclusion
01:08:00.580
the human cost isn't worth it i am going to bounce now this has been great we've been trying to do this
01:08:04.480
let's do this again on my show sometime in the year 2026 hard to imagine i'm even saying that but
01:08:09.120
that's the case uh to all of your listeners happy holidays happy new year appreciate everybody tuning
01:08:14.280
into this stream follow me on youtube x rumble myron you're the best brother no of course bro of
01:08:18.980
course and we're going to definitely do one soon for your show as well and i'm sorry thank you so
01:08:22.000
much for being flexible by the way bro hell yeah hell yeah all right man later and he is owen
01:08:28.400
troyer guys go check him out i'm gonna uh show you guys his page right now w interview
01:09:01.940
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01:09:15.520
he's the homie go check him out as you guys can see we always have very good
01:09:22.320
we align politically on so many different things
01:09:39.400
uh he's definitely one of the homies i'm gonna go jump on his show he's one of my favorite people to talk to
01:09:43.080
he really is uh whenever i do a collab with owen it's a banger
01:09:47.140
so um but yeah go check out his channel guys it's right here drop the link in the chat for you guys
01:09:52.680
um and yeah okay so yeah guys we're gonna continue on with the um with the analysis
01:09:58.000
um let's see here with a bunch of the stuff we got a lot of stuff to cover
01:10:02.680
i might not cover all the stuff uh but we will definitely cover a lot because that um because i think i'm gonna go live tomorrow too guys
01:10:16.760
so we got uh and thank you guys for being patient on this by the way
01:10:41.680
where we're having in-depth political analysis like you guys just heard now for an hour
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then we're gonna cover some true crime with this brown shooter
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you know one red pill a day keeps the doctor away
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i try to do at least one red pill segment every show
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because you guys need this constant reminding of how to deal with women
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covering current events with shooters and everything else like that
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right when i'm playing the music for y'all sometimes whatever
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uh they will go after ice agents within u.s. uh
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you must all have all three parts of the triforce
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I was able to help hundreds of people through it
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and honestly really putting my real personality out there