Charlie Kirk was a college student at the University of Utah, a member of the College Republicans of America, and a student at Utah State University. He was shot in the head and is now in critical condition in the ICU.
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00:12:33.880That is the official statement directly from Turning Point USA, which Charlie Kirk leads in a major conservative movement.
00:12:39.800So, no other statement related to him passing away.
00:12:43.860Just to provide a quick recap to everybody on the situation and why we're having this space.
00:12:50.380I mean, this was a very quick event from once we first got the original report to where we did it and the videos coming out.
00:12:57.380But, obviously, the first reports that we got was that conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, really well known across social media, specifically on X, but also TikTok, YouTube.
00:13:10.500He was shot during one of his very famous debates in college campuses, something that I believe really propelled him to fame.
00:13:20.480He was shot at the Utah Valley University approximately around 2, I want to say 2.40 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
00:13:28.700We haven't even had probably an hour since the first reports of him getting shot.
00:13:32.660From the videos that we've seen, it was a very graphic shot, hit him in the neck.
00:13:38.280Looks like it even probably from the video in the blood puncture his artery, severe wounds.
00:13:46.240There was a video where an older white gentleman appears to have been detained, but then subsequent reporting indicated that the shot actually came from 200 yards away.
00:13:59.340And it was in a different area, not necessarily connected to the event specifically.
00:14:03.980And although in the beginning it seemed that maybe the shooter was not detained, now has been confirmed by the Utah Valley University spokeswoman, Alan Trenner, that the shooter has been taken into custody.
00:14:15.540And the key aspect of this is that the shooter was not a student.
00:14:20.460The specific area where the shot came from was the Losey Center, which is about 200 yards away from the event.
00:14:56.080We do not know if, you know, the specific aspects of his motivations, although I think it's fairly safe to assume and clearly state that this has all the hallmarks of being domestic terrorism and that he was targeted because of his political voice and the reasons why that happened.
00:15:11.920Justin, I'll just quote quickly for you if there's anything I missed in this quick recap.
00:15:16.800Benny Johnson has a video from another angle on the other side or the side view of the campus.
00:15:21.980It's not as graphic, but you definitely see Charlie going down, but you can see the vastness of the crowd that was there.
00:15:27.700Everyone goes prone when the shot is heard and the camera quickly runs away.
00:15:32.900But yeah, we're going to we're going to have I mean, they'll they'll be able to identify this guy, I think, pretty quickly.
00:15:38.700And I mean, you can see from the crowd every like dozens of people videotaping this thing.
00:15:44.240So it's a it's it's which is both important for a historical capture of what's happening and possibly even for convicting this guy, but also just horrific because we're going to be living these videos again and again.
00:15:59.640It'll be, you know, it'll be it'll be very much like July 13th of last year when we went for days and a new video would pop up and a new video pop up here.
00:16:11.360Luckily, you know, no one got to witness what could have been a terrible, terrible rifle shot to the head at that point.
00:16:19.920Obviously, people died at that event as well.
00:16:22.160But just the pure political graphic nature of what we're witnessing.
00:22:30.920So, if Charlie Kirk got hit with a 7-6-2 or a 5-5-6 in the neck, and the 5-5-6 round bounces around, whatever got hit with that is probably gone.
00:29:25.140Thank you, but we're not going to diagnose a man that is fighting for his life on a spaceship.
00:29:35.100And it's possible from the sources I had, they told me, one, he was alive when they came to the hospital, and two, he was receiving blood transfusions.
00:29:45.140Now, those two things can be true, and the third one can be true, that his prospects are minimal.
00:29:53.820But at the same time, we don't know, and miracles have happened before.
00:29:57.460So we'll just have to see what happens here.
00:29:58.660Hey, everybody, I would encourage everyone to go.
00:30:04.440I just posted, this is James Heckman here, RFK's speech about the Martin Luther King assassination.
00:30:18.420It's a great, great conversation watching him speak to students and have everyone settle.
00:30:25.160That could have been riots across the country.
00:30:27.460I think we're underestimating the anger right now.
00:30:33.020You know, this stabbing in the subway has people going crazy.
00:30:38.960I think RFK made one of the greatest speeches ever.
00:30:42.020I just posted, and I think we all should, to encourage people to be thoughtful and settle down.
00:30:48.580But I think this is an explosive situation.
00:30:50.760I don't think we should underestimate it.
00:30:52.220I think it's a great thing to consider.
00:30:55.660Well, and I hope that the press does the same, because right now I've seen two reports out of MSNBC,
00:31:02.280one where they said, for all we know, it could have been one of his supporters celebrating with a gun.
00:31:08.600And the other one said, well, Charlie was known for pushing hate speech at certain groups.
00:31:15.060And I'm looking, these are things, when this stuff happens, these pundits on the air need to understand that their words have an impact too.
00:31:25.240This guy was in a BlackRock commercial about certain, come on, man.
02:06:55.060I've got a bunch of this shit open, man.
02:06:56.340I'll come back up and then we'll bring you right back up.
02:07:18.140There are people who are being dropped or removed from the space or being removed from the, from the speaker panel.
02:07:25.360So if that happens, just re-request and we'll bring you right up.
02:07:28.880Yeah, this is just a very difficult times about what's happened.
02:07:32.340Yeah, in my opinion, it's going to get so much worse in America and in the, in the world, in the West in general, because, you know, the political violence, you know, it seems to just be just beginning.
02:07:44.720And, uh, the polarization, the division, you know, this, this right versus left PSYOP is going to go to a next level, you know, and it's going to distract us from, from a lot of things.
02:07:55.320And, uh, you know, I wouldn't be surprised to, to, to hear that, you know, Mossad was behind this or, or something like that, because I'm seeing lots of people here talk about, you know, he was starting to notice, he was starting to turn, uh, some of Malik Jones's, uh, podcast said that, uh, he's not going to name names.
02:08:12.500Uh, this is Harrison Swift, by the way.
02:08:14.720He said that he was told that someone close to Charlie Kirk, that Charlie thinks, uh, Israel will kill him if he turns against them.
02:08:21.380And then there's, you know, recent reports of him doing, doing just that.
02:08:25.460Um, but yeah, I, I just feel, I just feel like, you know, this is, this is the start of, you know, a much bigger problem.
02:08:31.720And, and I feel like, you know, the social fabric of, uh, of America is, uh, is falling apart at the seams here.
02:08:38.200And, uh, you know, even, even partly it's because, you know, America is in a, in a secret recession, in my opinion.
02:08:44.000Um, a secret depression, not even a recession.
02:08:47.500And, uh, it's like a, it's like a gilded age or even worse than a gilded age.
02:29:01.680Made conservatism cool for young people.
02:29:03.560And for all the haters out there, like Tariq Nashi and all these other bitch-ass niggas that are sitting here celebrating his death, or the losers on TikTok.
02:29:13.160Their dash, nobody's going to give a fuck.
02:30:09.860No, I'm not going to let them scare me off, Chad.
02:30:14.040And every single time I go out there, I'm going to, before I start the stream, every single time, I'm going to begin every single college debate with a rest of peace to Charlie Kirk.
02:30:26.540We're going to honor his name every single time I step on a college campus or I'm ever out doing a street debate.
02:30:33.280We're going to start every single stream on from now on.
02:30:37.960When I'm out there saying, don't forget Charlie Kirk.
02:30:50.820But before every single stream where I set up a fucking table, whether it's at USC or Asheville or right here in fucking Miami, we will not let this man's name die.
02:32:07.040I hope the FBI creates a fucking task force to go after these radical fucking leftists that think it's okay to burn down buildings and kill conservatives, man.
02:33:43.140By the way, on Entropy, it says, Recipes, Charlie Kirk, if I could say one thing, Myron, just know, your enemy feeds off fear, but your safety is of utmost importance.
02:33:55.640Thank you so much, and I'm glad that you're here with us.
02:33:57.320The fact that you're here donating and you're here as a byproduct of me, bro, I can't put that into words, and I know I've done that for a lot of you guys, and I will take my safety more seriously because I know a lot of you guys need me, so I'm going to take it seriously, man.
02:35:30.700And yes, to the points of many in this room, you've got to see the reactions.
02:35:35.320And I hope it doesn't trigger a greater surveillance state.
02:35:39.720And one other thing, Joe had errantly said, as he often errantly says, the fine people on both sides.
02:35:46.420He made some sort of crass joke, and he was saying that Trump had claimed that about the guy who mowed down a bunch of people with their car.
02:35:55.920It was actually in North Carolina, I believe, where there was a protest about getting rid of a Civil War hero statue.
02:36:02.940That was the people who wanted to preserve the integrity of the history of the town and the battles that were fought.
02:36:09.380And then people on the left who, for understandable other reasons, wanted to change that because it represented something that they didn't agree with currently.
02:36:17.280So just to clean up the shitty misquote by Joe and, yeah, to lend a new layer to the discussion around potential perpetrators.
02:36:26.420And look, everyone is trying to politicise this.
02:36:31.120I think we're, well, obviously on the panel, people have their own opinions.
02:36:35.080But I think we're trying our best not to basically say that anything has happened from any direction or any perspective in the sense of whether it was politically motivated or not.
02:36:48.380But that being said, in terms of what I'm seeing on X, people are massively politicising this.
02:36:55.140And I'm just reading the statement from the Israeli prime minister, who is a genocidal maniac.
02:37:02.020He said this, quote, Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth and defending freedom.
02:37:06.240A lion-hearted friend of Israel, he fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilisation.
02:37:11.180I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel.
02:37:13.620Sadly, this visit will not take place.
02:37:15.120We lost an incredible human being, his boundless pride in America, and his valiant belief in free speech.
02:37:19.540Hey, Chao, it looks like we're, um, our posts might, it looks like a couple people are seeing our post chat.
02:37:25.420Looks like a couple people are seeing our post.
02:37:35.020Looks like something might have happened here on the roof, too.
02:37:40.840Suspect on the roof spot prior to Charlie Kirk's shooting.
02:41:31.940But I am noticing, um, because I, I, I've been in a few spats with some people on X today.
02:41:38.280Um, I'm noticing how people are just, they, they, they're showing and demonstrating the hypocrisy.
02:41:44.880So, there's someone I just had a spat with, but I'm noticing how people are just, they're saying, oh, I can't believe I live in a world where someone would take a father away from his children.
02:41:54.600And I go back to, and I go back to this person and go, but you're perfectly happy with a world where you manufacture consent for Palestinian fathers to be taken away from Palestinian children.
02:42:05.940Of course, that led me to, and I go back to this person.
02:42:06.940Of course, that led me to a whole big, how dare you, Dr. Shola, you're a, you know, you're a POS, and I go back with, you freaking waste of space.
02:42:13.860Okay, we got it out there, but the reality is that a lot of the people who are going to come out and express the astonishment at what has happened to Charlie Kirk are the same people who are perfectly happy for these, these awful things and awful things like this to happen to other people that they know they don't like.
02:42:33.520And I'm not in the business of being quiet and let me read the room, people are grieving, people are, let's not say anything.
02:42:39.960I'll let you grieve as long, and it's not my place not to let you grieve in the first place, but I'm saying that if people are going to say things that will trigger me calling them out.
02:42:50.320I want to show you guys something real quick, because people tend to forget that behind Turning Point USA and behind
02:43:01.420his political views, this is the man that they killed today.
03:40:55.440Well, a collarbone, but it would have continued, right?
03:40:59.640Like, the fact that it completely disintegrated, there are special rounds.
03:41:04.160This is actually what the trans shooter loaded up with as well.
03:41:07.680Those green-tipped rounds are known to be very frangible, so they create a lot of damage instead of just going through.
03:41:15.280They break up, and that's why we don't really see anything exiting, unless, you know, like I said, you guys can check out that 25-second mark on the video.
03:42:30.500Got a whole bunch of fucking tabs open.
03:42:34.140Yeah, I had a whole show planned for y'all, bro, but I don't even know.
03:42:36.740So, I'm going to have to postpone it, I don't even, today's going to be dedicated to Charlie, man, and celebrating his life, and celebrating his accomplishments, and celebrating how he has forever changed the political discourse on social media in America.
03:42:51.240So, I'm going to move some of this stuff over.
03:43:01.240Out of respect for him, we're not going to really talk about anything else.
03:43:03.720I'll cover this other stuff maybe tomorrow or the day after.
03:43:06.860But today is going to be dedicated to Charlie's life and his accomplishments, getting justice for him and his family, giving you guys updates.
03:43:15.020Let me read some of these chats, and I'm going to give you guys my take on what I think is going to happen here from a law enforcement perspective.
03:43:22.420We got our sergeant looks like, oh, no, sorry.
03:43:52.380And I hope you guys prioritize donating to Charlie versus me.
03:43:55.400Like I told you guys, for those people that are new to the stream watching right now, if you guys want to support me, instead of supporting me, say you were going to give $1, $10, whatever it may be, please send it to Turning Point USA instead.
03:44:07.540And then if you want to still donate to the stream and get involved in the stream, great.
03:44:10.400But I want you guys to put that money towards Turning Point USA first, prioritize them.
04:13:12.920You're comparing a guy that revolutionized the right wing to a fucking multiple time convicted felon that was high on fentanyl and committed a federal crime right before dying.
04:16:13.400He took a weapon out of my arsenal because I used to be able to say I've literally never, ever heard anyone tell me that they voted for Trump because of J.D. Vance.
04:16:25.420But now I have to say I've only heard one person because of you.
04:16:29.660You're, like, literally the first person.
04:16:31.380So you – the last speaker before you, the last speaker said that.
04:16:35.440So that's the first time I've heard that ever.
04:16:37.280It was J.D. Vance and he assassinated.
04:16:52.700As far as what's going on here, people, I'm very worried about all of this.
04:16:57.700And I'll take a page from Christopher Hitchens here who I think probably had been exposed in some way – I think Kirk probably was exposed to him one way or another.
04:17:09.100And the thing that – one of the things I admired among many things about Christopher Hitchens is that he would debate pretty much anybody but not the most fringe, crazy, loony, like crazy frothing.
04:17:21.160But he would debate all kinds of people about all kinds of topics.
04:17:23.880He was an atheist and he would constantly debate clerics and priests and rabbis.
04:17:28.620He would debate all kinds of people on the left and the right and in between.
04:17:32.780And he was all over the map with different things.
04:17:34.660He was very left on certain things, but he was muscular as far as U.S. foreign policy.
04:17:40.120Once he became an American, especially, he turned a little more right after 9-11.
04:17:45.160But he would debate people and be respectful, at least civil, at least mostly civil, and not screaming and yelling and constantly interrupting.
04:17:55.760You would have a debate, and he would have a debate, and he would follow the rules, and you would go back and forth, and it would be relatively civil.
04:18:08.980I mean, I think it's gotten better on this platform recently because so many people have become so exhausted and sort of siloed off into different groups that are less antagonistic for each other.
04:18:20.320But before, you couldn't even have a discussion.
04:18:22.820Everyone was just screaming and yelling at each other constantly.
04:18:25.700And, you know, I'm going to be honest.
04:18:29.780And Chris Hitchens was asked to speak about Reverend Falwell after Jerry Falwell died, and I don't think Charlie Kirk is anywhere near the way Falwell was.
04:18:40.160But I would say, you know, personally, he's not my cup of tea.
04:18:43.060I don't think he was, you know, a good person and did good, but except for carrying on that Hitchens kind of tradition where at least he would engage people, sit down, have a conversation, allow the person to speak, allow the person to go back and forth, because it's a lost art.
04:18:58.180So I give him credit for showing younger people that you can sit down and can have a discussion.
04:19:05.560I don't give him credit for what he stood for and everything else and all the other stuff he did.
04:19:09.060OK, but he deserves credit, from my perspective, from everybody for that, because it's such a necessary thing to have that.
04:29:20.740They're also likely interviewing this individual.
04:29:24.840Then from there, they want to get associates, close family members, friends, colleagues that this person might have worked with
04:29:33.940because they want to find out if anybody else might have known about this attack, plans for this attack, who might have aided it.
04:29:42.020So that's a very important part of this investigation that's underway right now.
04:29:45.980They're also going to get a search warrant for all of the electronic devices, cell phones, laptops.
04:29:52.560Yeah, and they're going to definitely do what's called a cell site as well, guys.
04:29:55.560A cell site warrant is when you're able to see the geolocation data of where the phone was at the time and see if they could put them at the event.
04:30:03.700Anything else where this individual might have communicated with others and they're going to pull all of that in, review all of that.
04:30:12.320So the clock starts ticking now on that part of the investigation.
04:30:17.160While they're doing that, they're building a timeline of everything that this individual did leading up to the moment of pulling that trigger.
04:30:24.360And I know we're looking ahead, but also a look back at what happened this afternoon.
04:30:27.900One thing that stood out to both of us during that press conference is hearing how many officers from the university campus police were actually on the ground out there.
04:30:35.860He was saying six officers, possibly more, that were also in plainclothes.
04:30:39.380He said that plainclothes officers were also there.
04:30:41.620But when you hear that some 3,000 people were in attendance, what goes in your head then?
04:30:48.900Wide open, no cover, no checkpoints, no metal detectors.
04:30:55.740Already, just the fact that they held the event at that location, law enforcement is at a disadvantage to keep it safe.
04:31:03.160But there are things that they could have done.
04:31:05.880And there you heard the police earlier acknowledge that they might have been able to prevent this.
04:31:12.440But to have somebody on a roof in an open-air university like that, very difficult to prevent.
04:31:19.340But had they had more eyes, more resources, maybe somebody would have seen something, said something, and apprehended that person before they took that shot.
04:31:27.740And we're already hearing about events being postponed or canceled, political ones, because of what happened with security plans perhaps being re-examined.
04:31:35.500Do you think that other colleges or other venues could change the way they approach security, given what happened here today?
04:31:43.640At least in the short term, there is going to be a message that goes out wide to campus law enforcement regionally and wider across the country.
04:31:53.680Everybody's going to be on high alert, given that.
04:31:56.440Already, law enforcement in the big cities were on high alert because tomorrow is September 11th.
04:32:01.000We are in a heightened threat environment.
04:32:03.340But looking out and finding that lone wolf before they attack, that is the hardest thing for law enforcement to do.
04:32:11.560Everybody's going to be ramping up security right now, essentially, at campuses but other institutions around the country.
04:32:18.980I know hindsight is 20-20, especially in cases like this.
04:32:21.900But when you do recognize that there was outcry and that people were not happy with Charlie Kirk's appearance on that campus and that this was the first stop on a widely publicized tour that he was kicking off on, what should have been different?
04:32:37.340Well, first of all, you should have had other law enforcement partners there because one small campus security police and even Provo police, they might not have had the resources to adequately secure this location.
04:32:53.820Even for crowd control, if nothing else, when you have 3,000 people in one space like that.
04:32:58.380That's right. And, you know, people get sick. Usually, if it's a highly publicized event, you'll have, you know, EMS teams.
04:33:06.360You might have a couple of ambulances just to make sure if somebody gets sick or needs help that there are first responders there.
04:33:14.480So the fact that they were so lightly resourced, that that was not ideal, obviously.
04:33:24.080Hindsight is 20-20. I think there was a certain level of comfortability.
04:33:28.260If he might have felt, well, you know, I bring this healthy debate and thought largely we're in sort of a friendly crowd.
04:33:36.140And I think that's where law enforcement can make the mistakes, where they think that they're in a friendly crowd environment.
04:33:43.940They say, yes, let's go with an open air venue where anybody can walk in.
04:33:51.080That was part of the appeal also for Kirk to have people come in and be able to have anyone sit down in front of him and talk to him.
04:33:57.540That's right. Now, he did have a security team.
04:33:59.580So he was aware of a certain threat level, but he didn't seem to be, you know, he was out there speaking confidently.
04:34:08.240I mean, we watch all of all our politicians doing the same thing every day.
04:34:13.600It is impossible to have a 100 percent secure environment, particularly if you're choosing to hold an event outside like this one.
04:34:21.200I know you've been urging caution and how we approach motive from the very, very start as soon as we heard this news come down.
04:34:27.220At the same time, it is hard to ignore the fact that he is such a prominent conservative figure.
04:34:36.160And this is all happening, of course, in the backdrop of quite a few targeted shootings that we have seen just in the past year or so that have played out.
04:34:45.720Luigi Mangione, of course, also behind one of those with UnitedHealthcare.
04:34:49.480What does that say to you about about where we are and in this, you know, the landscape in which this is all happening?
04:34:58.000Well, we've had quite a number of very high profile targeted assassinations and assassination attempts over the last 18 months.
04:35:08.280So really a very heightened threat environment.
04:35:14.020But what I will say about the motive is there have been perpetrators also at school shootings, at other high profile targeted attacks where it was sort of a free for all.
04:35:26.160Any motive, a person with a documented mental health history who was grabbing at whatever was in the zeitgeist, using that as motivation.
04:35:33.980So that's why in the immediate aftermath of these kinds of shootings, we want to be very careful because we don't know what kind of writings this person might have had, what kind of online spaces they might have been frequenting.
04:36:19.020I was just standing there about maybe 15 feet in front of Charlie, probably it was in the standing area, the standing crowd, maybe three people back behind the guardrail.
04:36:31.620And we were just enjoying listening to him answering questions.
04:36:38.620And before I continue, I don't think this is being covered.
04:36:43.960I don't know if any witnesses have come out and said that one of the last things that Charlie declared before the shot rang out was that Christ is Lord and that he defeated death.
04:36:55.600And I just find that very poetic despite this tragedy.
04:36:59.640After that declaration, he moved on to the next question, which during that time was when the shot rang out and it just seemed like everything went in slow motion.
04:37:11.460It didn't seem real for that split second.
04:37:15.540And then and I saw very up close the graphic detail of what of what happened.
04:37:23.080And at that point, me and the friend that I was with and the crowd around us ducked down and quickly got on the ground.
04:37:33.860It sounds like an incredibly harrowing experience that you had to go through, Brandon.
04:37:38.240When you when you did see this unfold so close to you, you said that you got on the ground.
04:37:44.820Can you talk a little bit about that immediate reaction of the crowd that was around you?
04:37:48.720I know there were so many students that were there.
04:37:52.240Yeah, I think it took probably one second for everyone to process what had just happened.
04:37:58.640And all of a sudden we were all piling on the ground.
04:38:00.920I just remember instinctively shouting, no, no, no, no.
04:38:04.300I reached for my phone to text my wife and to tell her that there there was a shooter and
04:38:10.420and that I loved her in case anything happened to me.
04:38:16.320And at that point, we were on the ground for about a minute and not hearing.
04:38:24.740I think that not hearing any more shots ring out gave everyone the confidence to just start
04:38:32.320running and start running to the buildings.
04:44:08.880But obviously, every law enforcement agent is going to interpret him as armed and dangerous, and we don't know if that can trigger him to go to do more attacks, and that's why it's a priority.
04:44:19.580It's the possibility that since this one was successful, if he's not been captured, then in his mind, he has an actionable plan that obviously works, which gives him the ability or at least the audacity to do it again.
04:46:03.640I and people that I'm politically aligned with think.
04:46:06.440But has the possibility of shifting not only the national conversation, but also activating a huge movement in opposition to what we've seen and what we've seen develop, like I was talking about with regards to the violent, the violent left.
04:46:23.540With the large movements like Antifa and now we have, you know, the trans militia, things along those lines.
04:46:31.900And I don't think it just feels different because it was so public and it was publicized and now it's everywhere and the video won't disappear.
04:46:38.560But it feels different because we've seen a build up to this.
04:46:42.460We watched the attempt happen with President Trump and now he had a successful assassination on Charlie Kirk.
04:49:10.460Mr. Craig, can you tell us a little bit more about how you think we should be feeling and thinking about this in an age of political violence?
04:49:26.960Well, earlier we were talking about what's the off ramp?
04:49:30.700Well, the off ramp is what Charlie Kirk was presenting, which is this vibrant political debate.
04:49:39.000When he came to the University of Wyoming in late April, he spoke for about, I'd say, seven to nine minutes, and then it went straight to Q&A, the Q&A that he was known for.
04:49:51.160And he would have these very respectful, back-and-forth debates on the issues of the day, and it was broadcast live.
04:50:22.320I don't think we should dilute the facts here about the loathing of the left towards Charlie Kirk.
04:50:29.560They thought he was a misogynist because he was pro-life, and he was irredeemable because of that.
04:50:35.120They thought he was irredeemable because he supported Israel, and they would accuse him of supporting genocide.
04:50:40.560They think that because he was willing to call out black violence towards white people that he was a racist, and that all of this stuff makes him an irredeemable, white supremacist, bigoted racist that many on the left are actually going to celebrate.
04:50:56.260We shouldn't dilute ourselves to thinking otherwise.
04:51:10.340I mean, if he's prosecuted and convicted, Spencer Cox, the governor of Utah, said that he wanted to remind everyone that Utah still has the death penalty.
04:51:17.320Yes, yes, but what Elad is saying is that they lionize Luigi Mangione.
04:51:22.640And when they do catch this guy, the left is going to make portraits of him as a saint, and they're going to put him on their magazine covers.
04:51:43.820But when they eventually catch this fucking scumbag, he is going to, he is definitely going to be, he's going to get that rock star left-wing love, bro.
04:54:37.900Can't, you can't fathom what his family's going through right now, knowing that they were on site, knowing that they were there and watched it firsthand.
04:54:44.780I cannot possibly imagine what they're going through.
04:54:52.300And I think more than anything, the outpouring of support for him and his family, I think it will be the catalyst of a huge conservative renaissance, a reawakening, a monster, monster opportunity for people to truly open their eyes to the reality of what we're living in.
04:55:08.920He said, the penalty to the one of the penalties that you get for refusing to participate in politics is to be governed by your inferiors.
04:55:17.300But I also would have to say that one of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics and know what's going on as a civic duty is to be overrun and overpowered by those who wish to control you.
04:55:28.160And I think now more than ever before, there's going to be a huge resurgence of conservative values in the United States, and there's going to be a monster pushback against liberal seats at the state level and at the federal level, because we're, I don't think we're going to stand by anymore and allow the detrimental rhetoric of the left who continue to call anybody conservative Nazis, who continue to call anybody who disagrees with, you know, the science of gender and the science of sexual.
04:55:53.220Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'll adjust my mic real quick, chat.
04:55:58.680He just explained his ideas and he did better than they did. And that was a threat they took out.
04:56:03.440Charlie, all today, going through the news and talking with our sources and our friends from various organizations, every phone call I was on was struggling through tears on both ends.
04:56:16.060It's because Charlie treated you like you were the best. It was, it was, it was, it was very Christian-like that he was there for you, whatever you needed.
04:56:30.380And so everybody felt like their best friend just got taken from them.
04:56:35.060This has the potential to be substantially more catastrophic than anybody else that could have targeted.
04:56:43.280I think it's on the level of, yeah, man, he, look, bro, um, our volume should be adjusted now.
04:56:50.620Um, Charlie was a good guy. There's a reason why everyone in the right, even people that might oppose some of his views, like me, for example, with Israel,
04:56:58.260I'm still showing an enormous amount of respect because on the main things we agree, we can have little disagreements here and there, but, um, anyone that knew Charlie, anyone that knew his people, um, good people, bro.
04:57:12.860The people over at 30 point USA are good people, man.
04:57:17.660You know, arguing about the micro when the macro pretty much aligns is stupid, right?
04:57:26.040And, uh, people that are celebrating his death, not knowing him, that he actually is a good dude, a guy that had a family and a guy that, you know, pushed Christian values and pushed family, you know?
04:57:37.280Like, um, this is a big gut punch to all of us, dude.
04:58:27.000The far left in this country seems completely emboldened to have vigilante justice against those who they view as fascists, which is anybody on the right.
04:58:39.060And unless, I don't know what the president Trump administration can do.
04:58:45.780I don't, I don't see how this, you know, we're saying hearts and prayers.
04:58:49.900We're saying, you know, this is horrible.
04:58:52.200And like, this will have a huge impact.
04:58:53.960This will have a huge impact to hurt the conservative movement.
04:59:01.160Um, but this is part, a symptom of a larger trend.
04:59:04.280Well, it's a trend that's, do you remember punch a Nazi and then suddenly they decided we're all Nazis?
04:59:09.860Ten years ago, I was like, and this is when I was, you know, before I was in the political world beyond Twitter, I'm a dude in a band and I'm, and like, I see people that I know saying, oh, it's okay to punch Nazis.
04:59:22.820And I'm like, this leads nowhere good.
04:59:25.520This is going to lead us to a terrible place.
04:59:28.760And, and what I got back was, why are you defending Nazis?
04:59:32.640It was almost ubiquitous in the music industry.
04:59:43.040And I mean, if you remember, and I don't know why anyone would remember this, but in 2018, there was an exhibit at the San Francisco public.
04:59:50.100Guys, I'm going to reach out here in a little bit.
04:59:51.740Um, and then guys, send me your favorite, um, clips of Charlie.
05:01:22.640TPUSA Zionist organization, where I donate?
05:01:25.340Um, well, it's an American political organization, my friend.
05:01:28.080And despite the fact that, um, it might be, uh, pro-Israel, understand that the last turning point event, actually, what did Charlie Kirk do?
05:01:35.320He actually hosted a debate between Dave Smith and, um, Hammer.
05:01:40.120So, you know, Charlie was literally facilitating a debate on that topic.
05:06:49.160There's people on the right that celebrate when something bad happens to Democrats as well, for sure, or leftists or liberals, progressives, whatever the fuck it may be.
05:06:55.380But what I will say is this, and this is irrefutable now at this point.
05:07:01.620When I've seen bad things happen to people on the right, the left overwhelmingly celebrates it.
05:07:08.960But when I see bad things happen to the left, I see a good amount of Republicans that still pray for their safety and still, you know, humanize with them.
05:08:06.180When Joe Biden was, like, missing for a week and everyone thought he was dead, I was one of the few people that said, I hope nothing happens to him.
05:12:39.800Remember that girl, Irina, that got killed on the fucking rail?
05:12:43.380If the roles were reversed and it was a fucking white dude that killed a black girl and stabbed her that way, they'd be rioting in the streets.
05:12:53.000People would have had to board up their fucking buildings and get ready for all hell.
05:13:00.160But since she was white, there were no riots.
05:13:04.200There was no destruction of major cities.
05:13:06.440So if you're going to sit here and honestly try to tell me that it's comparable to compare left-wing violence versus right-wing violence, I got something to tell you.
05:13:55.860There are more effective means of being involved in this information without risking my life and losing all of the shows that we already do that reach a much wider audience over two live shows per month.
05:15:08.960The chair would ask that all members present in the chamber and those in the gallery, please rise for a moment of prayer for Charlie Kirk and his family.
05:15:19.060What purpose is a gentlelady from Colorado rise?
05:25:25.980One of the angles here that I wanted to hit on that I feel like we haven't touched on was the morbidity and ghoulishness of social media as soon as this was coming out.
05:25:38.940And how quickly people felt the need to spread around how many different angles they could find of this young man being shot and killed and analyzing, you know, the volumes of blood coming out.
05:26:48.760So that George Zinn guy, just for some context, he was a guy that called in a bomb threat on the, I'm right over here, a guy that called the bomb threat in on the 2013 Salt Lake City Marathon.
05:26:57.840And everyone thought that was going to be this guy, but that ended up being a complete false red herring.
05:27:15.700We are drawn to sex, drugs, and violence as people, as human beings.
05:27:20.120We feel the need and like people are digging around for all these morbid clips and they're tracking up hundreds of millions of views.
05:27:26.440And, you know, we're catching this guy in the most intimate moments of his life bleeding out in front of crowds of thousands of people recording him.
05:27:37.160And because he's this sort of celebrity, there's just something deeply wrong and strange.
05:27:42.860And it feels like something we shouldn't be viewing in the capacity that we are able to do.