The Debrief With MyronGainesX - February 25, 2026


State Of The Union Address, Candace Owens Trailer Sparks Outrage, Tucker Tries To Stop War!


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1 hour and 38 minutes

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86.43377

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8,526

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635

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

70


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00:56:31.620 Now, the other reason why the Israelis are worried is because those interceptor missiles
00:56:36.560 that they have, those are harder to come by.
00:56:39.700 You know, they're more expensive.
00:56:41.120 You can't make as many of them.
00:56:43.100 So, in a war of attrition, after the 12-day war, the Israelis had depleted a whole bunch of
00:56:48.420 their stockpile.
00:56:49.980 So they know that as the months pass on, Iran only gets stronger and builds more missiles,
00:56:55.940 why the Israelis are not going to be able to keep up from an interceptor missile perspective.
00:56:59.680 So that's another reason why they're also rushing to get something done.
00:57:05.400 There's just so many different factors because the more time that passes, it helps Iran and the proxies.
00:57:13.740 I'm like really confused because I thought that we just dropped 12 MOABs on all of their nuclear sites.
00:57:23.600 So how are they even still doing this?
00:57:25.460 Like, did the 12-day war just fail?
00:57:27.060 Sorry, I pay attention to Epstein and not Diopold, but did we not just take out all their nuclear sites?
00:57:34.840 That was the claim.
00:57:35.860 That was the claim.
00:57:36.600 I don't know.
00:57:37.400 That's why I never agreed that that was actually something that was successful.
00:57:40.860 I think that was agreed upon.
00:57:42.520 Like I said, I remember if anyone's watching our coverage in the 12-day war, I think we were bang on on almost everything.
00:57:48.440 And we said, look, they've already removed all the centrifuges.
00:57:52.060 They've already removed all the nuclear enrichment.
00:57:54.960 They've got everything out.
00:57:56.500 And I believe that that happened because there was an agreement.
00:58:00.400 Israel begged Trump to get them out of the war because they were getting hammered really badly.
00:58:07.460 Iran wanted to get out because of the Mossad operatives they had in the ground, although Iran was winning.
00:58:12.520 And so this was an agreed-upon exit where Iran bombs, sorry, America bombs.
00:58:19.020 Iran then bombs Qatar.
00:58:20.380 And even though they were aware that they were going to bomb, still about six missiles still got through.
00:58:24.400 And that became the end of the conflict.
00:58:27.420 So quite clearly they're kind of admitting that they didn't bomb them or that they were successful.
00:58:32.520 I mean, that's what it sounds like to me.
00:58:35.620 Like they were, you know, they're trying to disguise it, but they're admitting that they failed.
00:58:41.180 Yeah.
00:58:41.620 Which I think that kind of makes like, it kind of makes America look weak that we were celebrating this.
00:58:47.980 Oh, we didn't, it wasn't a war.
00:58:49.600 It was only 12 days.
00:58:50.780 It's not like we put boots on the ground.
00:58:52.200 Like we can do it like this.
00:58:53.480 And then it comes down to it.
00:58:55.620 And it's like, well, just a month, a couple of months later, they're already back in position and have their nuclear capabilities again.
00:59:02.760 And they're getting ready to produce bombs.
00:59:05.000 So, uh, go ahead.
00:59:06.680 Yeah, go ahead, Martin.
00:59:07.480 No, no, go ahead, Martin.
00:59:08.300 Um, so just, um, hold on one sec.
00:59:10.480 So I, I, uh, went back.
00:59:11.880 So the, the bases that I'm talking about in Syria are, um, the, it's, uh, Qasr al-Jir and then another in Kuala al-Tamf, basically two pretty strategic, uh, strategically important locations, uh, where U.S. forces were, you know, uh, stationed.
00:59:27.040 Those, they're basically leaving those locations and heading towards the, uh, towards the Iranian border.
00:59:32.640 So they are potentially moving what could be boots on the ground closer to the Iranian border.
00:59:38.680 And the mainstream media hasn't, hasn't reported that really.
00:59:40.740 They kind of quietly move those people out of the region.
00:59:42.960 Now, I know some people might counter and say, well, Myron, they're moving them out of there because the Iranian is going to strike any of the bases in the region.
00:59:48.860 True.
00:59:49.160 But two things can be true at the same time.
00:59:50.840 So I think, yes, they're moving them from harm's way, uh, because it's kind of spread out and they're sitting ducks over there.
00:59:55.840 But I also think at the same time, moving them closer towards the, uh, the Iranian border, uh, with Kurdish, Kurdish, Kurdish-backed militia groups also as a sign of, uh, a potential, maybe we might get a boots on the ground situation.
01:00:10.120 Because I think Trump and his planners understand that if you actually want to effectuate this regime change, uh, there's no way around it.
01:00:15.520 You can't just, you know, bomb, bomb them to hell and think it's going to be good.
01:00:18.540 You're going to need boots on the ground, which that's another nightmare scenario.
01:00:21.260 Now to go back to what Noxie was saying with the 12-day war, um, and we, so we called this back in June.
01:00:27.020 The 12-day war, like us getting involved was a fucking, it was, it was all smoke and mirrors, right?
01:00:32.420 Um, Trump gets on there the next day.
01:00:34.360 Oh, we destroyed them.
01:00:35.440 We sent them back several years, blah, blah, blah.
01:00:37.760 We knew back then that it was a bullshit because we knew that they had been eyeing for dough because that's the main one that the Israelis couldn't get to that was in the mountain.
01:00:44.700 And they had been eyeing for dough since fucking 2009 because right after they bombed Iran, I don't know if you guys remember this, Trump goes on camera, says we bombed them, we put their nuclear program back.
01:00:57.060 Then Pete Hexeth followed up that next morning and went into detail on Operation Midnight Hammer, which is the operation that they had done.
01:01:05.100 And to me, if you watch that, that, that, uh, that briefing, they basically, it was a fucking sales ad for the B-2 bomber.
01:01:13.500 Like they were bragging about how they moved it across the, across the world.
01:01:16.860 We got there in 18 hours.
01:01:18.260 We had great pilots.
01:01:19.260 We bombed them.
01:01:19.960 They had no idea things happened.
01:01:21.400 We had a bunch of Tomahawk missiles, you know, get involved.
01:01:24.000 We didn't, you know, we, we were, we were so lethal, blah, blah, blah.
01:01:27.820 They were basically sucking their own dicks for like the better part of an hour talking about the operation.
01:01:31.640 But the reason why I think they bragged so hard about the operation was to, you know, kind of get the American people to think, oh, we really pushed them back.
01:01:38.500 But the reality is the Iranians knew that they had been staking that place out since 2009.
01:01:42.700 That's another thing they admitted in that, uh, in that briefing was that they were looking at Fordow since 2000 fucking nine.
01:01:49.780 Those 30,000 pound bombs that they dropped, they had been putting, uh, manufacturing those since the Obama era, right?
01:01:56.720 So the Iranians knew this was coming for a very long time.
01:01:59.980 And that's why they were able to get all that highly enriched uranium out.
01:02:02.840 And another reason why I think the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the U.S. involvement in bombing was a colossal fucking mistake is because since they didn't take out the Iranians, they looked at it as a W because they survived being attacked by both the United States and against Israel.
01:02:19.000 So people that didn't like the Ayatollah or people that opposed the government, all of them united and rallied around the flag because as much as they might not like their government, they hate Israel and the United States even more so, right?
01:02:28.360 The United States, let's be honest, we're responsible for their crippling sanctions.
01:02:31.200 So they're obviously going to have a beef with us on there.
01:02:32.980 And then they hate the Israelis because the Israelis have been, you know, doing a whole bunch of bullshit, provoking a war for the better part of two years ever since, hell, even before October 7th.
01:02:41.540 So, um, I think, right, Trump and his crew said that they destroyed the nuclear facilities to appease the smooth-brained retards that are in America that a lot of the times don't follow, don't keep up with the news.
01:02:55.160 Um, but the reality is, is that they didn't really set the program back as intensely as they thought.
01:02:59.860 They maybe set it back a couple of months at best, but it wasn't years.
01:03:02.880 And even if they did destroy the centrifuges, um, the 60, the 60% highly enriched uranium is out of there and they got like, like 400 kilos of the ship plus.
01:03:11.700 Um, so I, I don't think it was a, it was a success.
01:03:14.440 I think it actually, if I'm going to go all the way on this, I think it actually, um, backfired because it made the Iranians rally around the flag.
01:03:20.820 Um, and then the Israelis had to reveal their Mossad operatives in countries, in country.
01:03:25.520 A lot of those guys got caught, captured and executed.
01:03:27.580 They had to, um, you know, they, they basically busted their load before they could do what they actually needed to get done.
01:03:33.280 So that's why, you know, they tried the second operation with the fucking Starlink and the protests and the agitators and that failed too.
01:03:40.880 So that's why I think that's another reason why they're moving those soldiers, uh, out of Syria, uh, towards the Iranian border.
01:03:47.680 Hey, Myron, real quick on that, uh, you, what's your info on the Chinese connection with the ship, uh, anti-ship, uh, ballistic missiles, the supersonic missiles?
01:04:02.240 Um, uh, my understanding, they've been working that for a long time.
01:04:05.920 This isn't just something recent.
01:04:07.240 Do you have anything on that?
01:04:08.380 Yeah.
01:04:08.640 Yeah.
01:04:08.980 Um, so, um, well, we know they have the radars.
01:04:12.000 They, they, they have the radars and they have the surface air missile.
01:04:14.300 So that's, that's their, they currently have Russian and Chinese people also helping them with support.
01:04:19.340 Uh, but as far as these missiles that you're talking about, I saw that that got reported yesterday.
01:04:22.860 So the, I, so right after the 12 day war, um, Iranian officials were literally in China, like next day, you know, trying to, trying to get this stuff.
01:04:33.200 And I know what the Russians, they had a contract in place to get some of their technology.
01:04:37.680 Um, now I think the Russians are expediting some of the stuff.
01:04:39.880 I know they gave them some helicopters and some other stuff like that.
01:04:42.140 Uh, but after the 12 day war, um, the Iranians are pretty much saying, Hey, we need this stuff expedited.
01:04:49.140 Cause we're going to go to war again.
01:04:50.660 So I think, I think the, the deal had been in place.
01:04:53.880 Uh, but now they're putting pressure on the Chinese, uh, getting the stuff expedited and getting support personnel to help them with it as well.
01:05:02.240 Okay, great.
01:05:02.960 Thanks, man.
01:05:03.400 Yeah.
01:05:03.520 If I'm not mistaken, I think they have like some, like some crazy 20 year, uh, mutual benefit agreement.
01:05:10.720 I, I, I, is someone, maybe Joe, I know you're real good with like finding the actual documents and the terms and conditions, but I'm almost certain that the Chinese have some type of mutual agreement with the, um, with the Chinese, not necessarily like NATO, like where you trigger, um, military action.
01:05:25.000 If one is hit, but more along the lines of like being a strategic partner when it comes to sharing of intelligence and, uh, technology.
01:05:30.900 Yeah, I don't, that I'm unaware of, but I can look.
01:05:36.660 Yeah.
01:05:37.080 I know they have something in place.
01:05:38.400 And that was another big thing too, because with the Iranians, their biggest weakness after the 12 day war was air defense.
01:05:44.260 So that is another reason why they made sure to get those Chinese radars and the surface air missiles, because it can't be, um, hacked by the CIA and the Mossad.
01:05:52.440 It's all Chinese technology that they, that they might not, that is significantly harder to crack.
01:05:57.560 And I know some people are like, Oh, well, Myron, the Chinese, like, bro, all their shit sucks.
01:06:02.220 All their shit sucks.
01:06:03.120 Okay.
01:06:03.680 Let's assume their shit sucks.
01:06:05.060 Let's assume it's not as good as they, as they boast.
01:06:07.400 Let's assume, um, it's really operates at maybe 70% of the 100 that they advertise it as.
01:06:12.640 That doesn't matter.
01:06:13.620 Let me explain why.
01:06:14.280 When war planners are creating, uh, you know, a strategy on how they're going to attack, right?
01:06:21.580 Let's use the United States, for example, and the Israelis, the United States and the Israelis cornerstone of their offensive is air superiority.
01:06:28.720 Okay.
01:06:30.440 And they have to have some degree of confidence that when they send those jets in to bomb certain locations, that they're not going to be shot down.
01:06:37.420 Right.
01:06:37.860 So to the United States, having an F-35 or a Raptor or any of these self aircraft shot down is like a fucking nightmare scenario.
01:06:46.340 Because if it gets shot down, you've basically given your enemies the ability to reverse engineer some of your most, most advanced technology.
01:06:53.660 Right.
01:06:54.120 Keep in mind, guys, even countries that have F-35s, they have a very watered down version.
01:06:57.540 They don't have our version.
01:06:59.200 The only country that has a version similar to ours are the Israelis.
01:07:02.920 And then the Raptor, nobody has that.
01:07:04.320 So we really take serious pride in our stealth aircraft.
01:07:09.300 And with that said, that goes into accounting when it comes to war planning.
01:07:13.060 So when they bombed Iran the first time, there was no air defense.
01:07:16.800 They were able to just go into the country, bomb them to hell, and they couldn't do shit.
01:07:20.680 Now with these radars, even if they're not as efficient as some of you might say, that is still going to add to the risk assessment when it comes to how the war planners are going to approach this.
01:07:30.640 Now they have to be a bit more conservative of how they attack.
01:07:35.640 And in some scenarios, that might be enough.
01:07:37.980 A little bit of deterrence might be enough.
01:07:40.360 This is why the aircraft carriers have been pushed back.
01:07:43.520 Right.
01:07:43.660 The aircraft carriers, it's not like the United States can't fucking defend against it or like the United States can't really punish Iran for sinking the aircraft carrier.
01:07:50.220 But what it comes down to, is it worth the risk?
01:07:52.880 And a lot of the times the war planners are going to say, no, it's not worth the risk.
01:07:55.900 So just the fact that they're able to have these tools and make war planners second guess, that is a W in itself.
01:08:04.020 Because war planning is all based on probabilities, percentages, and especially when you're dealing with things sensitive like F-35 jets.
01:08:11.900 But the risk of losing that to reverse engineering is extremely important to the war planners.
01:08:18.040 So deterrence works.
01:08:19.900 So, Maren, in terms of like China, they do have like a cooperation agreement, but it's not really a defense agreement.
01:08:26.980 It's just a broad like political economic agreement.
01:08:29.440 Yeah.
01:08:29.720 But that's in terms of like a physical agreement.
01:08:31.820 But in terms of actions, there's no doubt that China has massively supported Iran.
01:08:38.860 You look at basically the support of the defense missiles, the support of the radars, the support of various things, including today.
01:08:47.200 Today, they basically said that they're going to give them the ICBMs and the anti-ship ballistic missiles.
01:08:55.640 So that's just, and the supersonic ones is the more specific one that they were going to give.
01:09:00.360 So Chinese have stepped up hard.
01:09:02.100 And the reason is, obviously, they don't want Iran to fall, A, because of trade.
01:09:06.200 But I think that's the more minor issue.
01:09:07.360 I think the bigger one, which I think a lot of people have missed, is the geopolitical one, which is if you look at Iran from a physical map perspective,
01:09:16.400 you'll see that from Israel to Iran, Israel's taken all the countries.
01:09:21.500 Now, even if you believe Israel is a proxy or America is a proxy, either way, Israel or America, if they take Iran, they already control Central Asia.
01:09:29.260 They've basically got a direct route to China.
01:09:31.900 So they'll be on the border of China.
01:09:33.340 So that's the biggest threat.
01:09:34.480 So for China, just from their own perspective, they just can't lose Iran.
01:09:38.320 Yeah.
01:09:38.640 So and I like that you brought that up.
01:09:40.600 So there's multiple reasons as well why the Chinese are super interested in this, because when we talk about the Chinese,
01:09:45.520 the Chinese, I would argue, are some of the most pragmatic trade partners in the world.
01:09:50.680 Right.
01:09:51.460 We're over here starting wars.
01:09:52.640 They're over here building relationships.
01:09:54.040 So and that's one thing I think that they do really well, that we need to start emulating.
01:09:58.180 So for the Chinese, I think their interests are, you know, multiple, like you had stated.
01:10:02.200 Number one, the strain of Hormuz is there.
01:10:03.940 A significant amount of oil, the world's oil, about 20 to 30 percent, goes through that strait.
01:10:08.120 The Chinese absorb a large portion of the oil that comes through there.
01:10:11.460 So obviously they're going to have an interest there.
01:10:14.400 Second, this is an opportunity for the Chinese to test their weapons and equipment against the United States.
01:10:20.560 Right. We know that the Chinese are notorious for stealing America, American technology to try to reverse engineer it to combat it.
01:10:27.780 So the fact that they're able to give these radars and surface air missiles to test them against American aircraft,
01:10:34.260 that's a win win for them, because now they can test their technology without necessarily having to put their own soldiers or risk of getting,
01:10:40.100 you know, being involved in nuclear warfare.
01:10:42.100 Right. So that's they're able to do it through proxy.
01:10:44.080 And then, you know, obviously the geographic geographical reasons that you had mentioned as well.
01:10:48.640 So, but yeah, the Chinese. Oh, and then also the Iranians sell the Chinese oil at a heavily discounted price.
01:10:54.840 Right. And they rely on the Iranians now even more so because they lost Venezuela before Maduro was taken or kidnapped by the by the Trump administration.
01:11:04.800 The Chinese were getting quite a bit of their oil from Venezuela at a reduced price because of the sanctions.
01:11:09.500 Now that Venezuela is gone, the Iranians are really their main source of discounted oil now.
01:11:14.640 So they have a super strong interest for many different strategic perspectives to support Iran at this point.
01:11:24.260 Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
01:11:27.240 Jay, were you going to do you want to ask Myron something?
01:11:29.280 Yeah, you know, I definitely agree with what Myron's saying about Trump's foreign policy.
01:11:37.420 You know, like, I think that's a pretty good analysis there.
01:11:41.280 You know, the only going to add a little bit more context to was, you know, his thoughts on the immigration issue.
01:11:49.060 Yeah, I don't want to go down that road, Jay.
01:11:52.280 Okay, cool. Let me go to, so Myron, just another question I've got for you is, in terms of when you've got the coming back to the war with Iran,
01:12:05.000 just one last question to you is, you obviously believe that the war is going to happen.
01:12:13.240 What do you think the role of Israel and the United States of America are going to be compared to each other?
01:12:17.100 Well, it's either going to, I think it's going to be one of two scenarios.
01:12:23.020 It's going to be the U.S. is going to look for a diplomatic off-ramp, take that off-ramp, and the Israelis are going to attack anyway,
01:12:30.280 and then we're going to have to get involved and at least from a defensive perspective support them.
01:12:34.280 Or Trump is going to keep the ball in his court, try to do a limited strike, try to avoid a regional conflict after the fact, and go from there.
01:12:42.900 But the Iranians have already warned that even if Trump does a limited strike, everything is fair game for them.
01:12:50.100 And that is what has the war planners and Trump very concerned with doing a strike.
01:12:55.080 You know, this is not going to be like the 12-day war where they just come in and bomb the nuclear facilities and they're able to walk away from it.
01:13:01.500 This time it's going to be, all right, you guys are coming at us from an existential perspective.
01:13:04.780 We are going to make it extremely painful for you to do that because I think at this point the Iranians know that this is a do-or-die situation.
01:13:13.160 So they can't hold back if the United States hits them, this time around at least.
01:13:21.280 Oh, another thing I'll also say because I think Nox was asking about this with the 12-day war.
01:13:25.640 Another fact that is very important that hasn't been reported with the mainstream media.
01:13:28.860 Another reason why the United States had to step in during the 12-day war is because the Israelis were threatening to nuke Iran.
01:13:36.940 Towards the end of the 12-day war, the Israelis were running out of interceptor missiles.
01:13:42.020 And if you don't have interceptor missiles, you're basically sitting duck and can get destroyed.
01:13:45.340 So for them, they're like, okay, well, Trump, if you don't step in and get a ceasefire here, we're going to nuke these guys.
01:13:50.960 And that's another thing that was, you know, pressing on Trump to get involved and bomb these nuclear facilities because the Israelis had essentially done a nuclear blackmail.
01:14:00.920 So that also weighed heavily into why we got involved.
01:14:04.740 And this has been confirmed from many reputable sources.
01:14:09.180 Yeah, yeah, that was said by a number of people, including John Kirikou and a few, and he's ex-CIA, I believe.
01:14:16.520 So, yeah, quite a few people said that.
01:14:18.460 And when you do the numbers, when you do the math, it makes sense because, you know, like, remember, all of us were baffled.
01:14:23.760 Like, remember when Trump bombed Porto?
01:14:25.460 We're like, what the fuck?
01:14:26.220 I was outraged.
01:14:27.280 You know, a whole bunch of people came out and said, this is bullshit.
01:14:30.040 We didn't vote for this, blah, blah, blah.
01:14:31.620 And in my head, I was like, why the fuck did he do that?
01:14:33.420 This is, like, completely against what his base wants.
01:14:35.560 But now, months later, when that detail got revealed, then it made sense why he had to get involved.
01:14:44.500 Well, yeah, yeah, 100%.
01:14:46.120 He had to get involved for that reason.
01:14:47.680 As you quite accurately stated, they were running out of defense missiles.
01:14:52.760 They'd run out of THAADs, the David Sling arrows.
01:14:57.360 None of them were working, or they were working not to the manner that they need.
01:15:01.440 Since then, they've replenished, but they've not replenished enough, in my view, to get to the situation that they are.
01:15:07.740 And that's why the Gerald Ford, if you look at it, it's gone.
01:15:11.580 So, Dan, this is a question I'm going to ask you.
01:15:13.440 Actually, I was going to ask you in the interview, but I'll ask you here, then I'll ask you there as well.
01:15:16.160 If you look at the Gerald Ford, which is the second carrier, it's now moved, and it's gone exactly where I said, where I predicted that.
01:15:22.240 It was not going to go to Iran.
01:15:24.280 It was not going to go to the Persian Gulf.
01:15:25.900 It was going to go to Israel, to defend Israel.
01:15:28.640 And that's exactly where it's gone.
01:15:29.880 So, I guess my question to you is, why is it that the Americans are accepting the fact that one of their two carriers has instead gone to Israel to defend Israel against bombs from Iran or Lebanon?
01:15:46.900 Because I've got sources that say that Hezbollah is also going to attack.
01:15:50.120 Why has it gone there as opposed to defend and have two modes of attack in Iran and therefore defend the other American carrier and the other American military artillery?
01:16:05.540 That's a fantastic question.
01:16:06.920 And my wheels were turning as you were asking a question because that's a good observation.
01:16:10.780 This is why I think they're doing that.
01:16:13.760 From a military strategic perspective, the Iranians can't really hurt the United States, right?
01:16:19.120 So, since, I mean, like domestically, I mean, of course they can hurt the United States.
01:16:24.320 But I would argue that attacking Israel, right, might be the smarter strategy to get the United States to kind of back off, right?
01:16:33.660 Because we know that it's inevitable that if they launch an attack, even if the U.S. does it, the Iranians are going to go ahead and make sure that they shoot a whole bunch of missiles into Israel.
01:16:42.360 And for those that don't know, the reason why, you know, Israel isn't able to shoot down all these different missiles is because the Iranians are smart.
01:16:47.820 They shoot hundreds of missiles at the same time and, you know, they shoot the bullshit first.
01:16:53.940 Once that gets intercepted, then they start shooting the more dangerous stuff to get around the air defense.
01:16:59.760 And the Israelis know this, and that's why they're so worried about their ballistic missile program.
01:17:03.520 And that's why the Ford is stationed there to help them.
01:17:06.240 Also, another X factor that you mentioned was Hezbollah.
01:17:10.800 Hezbollah, we know, is going to shoot rockets from the north.
01:17:13.180 The Houthis are going to shoot rockets from the south.
01:17:14.700 And then you got the Iranians raining missiles down from them from the east.
01:17:17.860 It's, you know, it's going to be very difficult.
01:17:19.400 That's why, I don't know if you saw this, Suleiman, but Netanyahu gave an address that said,
01:17:23.780 if the Iranians attack us, or excuse me, if Hezbollah attacks us or the Iranians, we are going to destroy them.
01:17:29.340 And then I think some news came out today where the Israeli government told the Lebanese government
01:17:35.460 that if Hezbollah shoots rockets into Israel, Israel is going to respond by attacking civilian structure.
01:17:42.060 Now, this puts the Lebanese government in a very difficult place because technically Hezbollah doesn't answer to the Lebanese government.
01:17:49.420 So, in other words, the Lebanese government is going to be holding the fucking bag,
01:17:55.660 or they're going to get stuck with the bag, of having to deal with the consequences of Hezbollah shooting these rockets in.
01:18:00.540 And for months, the Lebanese government has been trying to disarm Hezbollah, which Hezbollah says,
01:18:05.660 fuck no, we're not disarming.
01:18:06.960 So, I think from the Israeli perspective, they know that once this war starts, rockets are going to come from the north.
01:18:12.740 And they're trying to, you know, tell the formal Lebanese government that even though Hezbollah isn't under your authority, wink, wink,
01:18:21.020 we're still going to bomb you as if they are, to try to deter them.
01:18:25.020 But, yeah, dude, it's going to be very interesting.
01:18:28.000 And then the other thing I'll say when it comes to interceptor missiles,
01:18:30.920 I know Pete Hexeth had put in, like, an order with Lockheed or one of these other guys
01:18:35.260 where they were only making somewhere between 20 to 100 of these things a year.
01:18:39.660 However, Hexeth put in an emergency order that they need 400 for the year.
01:18:43.340 But even if they were able to get the 400 for the year, the Iranians are making 300 a month
01:18:47.860 because they make all their own drones and their ballistic missiles.
01:18:51.420 So, even with that expedited and increased production level,
01:18:55.620 they still won't be able to combat the stockpile that the Iranians possess.
01:18:59.520 Yeah, and that was one of the points that Cain, General Cain, made that came out that was leaked.
01:19:09.680 We do not have the assets, in other words, the inventory.
01:19:13.280 And then Trump squashed it.
01:19:15.320 I'm glad you mentioned Cain.
01:19:16.720 We have a munitions shortage, too.
01:19:18.900 I forgot to mention that.
01:19:20.400 Yeah, so another thing also that's really factoring into Trump's decision-making
01:19:23.540 and the mainstream media isn't reporting is we have an entire munitions low supply
01:19:29.340 because of our ongoing support for the Ukrainians and their Russia conflict.
01:19:32.920 And just on that, Maren, I guess the other element of it is from the American side.
01:19:44.700 The important part of it is this, that it just shows once again that the Americans are putting Israel before America
01:19:53.640 because this carrier is being sent to defend Israel as opposed to American assets.
01:19:59.400 What's your thoughts on that?
01:20:00.420 Yeah, I think they're doing that because Israel is a pressure point that can end the war.
01:20:05.340 If the Iranians hit them hard enough, I think that's a weak point for the United States.
01:20:09.480 It's for me to put it more—let me put it more accurately.
01:20:14.040 The Iranians can get away with hitting Israel extremely hard in a way that
01:20:20.000 they would not be able to do that to the United States without, like, a severe consequence.
01:20:23.900 Does that make sense?
01:20:24.800 So, like, if they—in other words, so let's say I'm the Ayatollah, right?
01:20:28.680 I'm the guy fucking planning the retaliation.
01:20:33.640 If you hit Israel hard, right, versus hitting the United States hard,
01:20:39.060 if you sink an aircraft carrier, you're probably going to get nuked.
01:20:41.400 I'm going to be honest.
01:20:42.120 They're probably going to get nuked.
01:20:43.340 But if they destroy some strategic locations in Tel Aviv or in Haifa, right,
01:20:49.180 they'll be able to do that—they'll be able to take that aggressive stance with Israel
01:20:53.560 and get a little bit further without an enormously, you know, painful retaliation from the United States,
01:20:58.520 if that makes sense.
01:20:59.220 Yeah, yeah, I mean—
01:21:04.180 Like, they could get away with more putting pressure on Israel than on the United States themselves.
01:21:07.780 Because also keep in mind that since the Israelis are a—I guess they call it an ambiguous nuclear state,
01:21:15.220 there's also another consequence.
01:21:17.440 If the Israelis use a nuclear weapon, right, overtly,
01:21:20.360 that is going to put them in a bad spot because now the entire Middle East is going to say,
01:21:25.260 yep, now it's confirmed, they have them, we want nuclear weapons too.
01:21:29.040 Saudi Arabia, all the Gulf states, yep, we want nuclear weapons too.
01:21:32.520 These fucking guys went ahead and nuked Iran for retaliating against them with a strike.
01:21:37.200 So I think the Iranians will be able to get away with more being more aggressive on the Israelis than on the United States.
01:21:44.220 But all speculation, of course.
01:21:45.720 I agree with you.
01:21:47.080 I agree with you in terms of Iran is going to smash Israel up, right?
01:21:51.480 If you look at the artillery fire, if you look at the hypersonic missiles,
01:21:54.420 you look at what they've got now in terms of the support of the Chinese,
01:21:57.900 they're going to be hitting hard.
01:21:59.620 But I'm saying what this—I guess what I'm trying to say is that what this demonstrates once again is
01:22:05.360 the U.S. choosing Israel over the U.S.
01:22:08.440 because in reality, the U.S. is going to be defending Israel.
01:22:12.360 Now you're saying—
01:22:12.880 Agreed, yes.
01:22:14.260 Yeah, sorry?
01:22:14.900 No, no, no, you're right. You're right. Sorry, go ahead.
01:22:17.320 Yeah, yeah, because you're saying, look, they're thinking about—
01:22:19.900 it's like a tag team, isn't it?
01:22:20.900 You're thinking it's a tag team and they're trying to defend their tag team partner.
01:22:23.160 But the problem is the tag team partner is the one who's getting you into all this crap.
01:22:27.620 And now that the war is happening, you're going there to fight,
01:22:30.480 and then you're having to defend him because he's a weakling.
01:22:33.240 And you're risking yourself.
01:22:34.860 You're risking you're going to get pinned.
01:22:36.160 You're risking you're going to get choked out.
01:22:38.540 You're risking all those things just for your weak partner who's causing a huge amount of problems.
01:22:43.140 No, good point.
01:22:45.200 You know, yeah, Israel's basically the loud girlfriend that fucking mouths off to the fucking guys at the club or the bar,
01:22:51.720 and you got to fucking defend them no matter what because you're getting some pussy or some shit and you're whipped.
01:22:55.800 So that's literally what it is, 100%.
01:22:59.280 You know, and I think Mike Huckabee's statements also kind of prove that.
01:23:02.380 You know, Tucker Carlson, you know, if you watch the beginning of that interview,
01:23:05.820 he gave some really alarming takes.
01:23:07.140 He was like, look, you know, I went to Israel to interview Huckabee.
01:23:11.060 We said that we were willing to go to the embassy, but we wanted, you know, some security.
01:23:15.200 And they refused to send anybody over there, right?
01:23:17.020 And I'm like, I think that's pretty reasonable that he wants some security given the fact that Netanyahu called him a Nazi
01:23:22.120 and, you know, he's not very well liked.
01:23:23.780 It was very brave of Tucker to go over there.
01:23:25.600 And it was a little strange how Huckabee and the Americans over there didn't really support Tucker with his safety.
01:23:32.840 So they definitely have an Israel-first perspective.
01:23:36.000 And then Huckabee basically confirming that the stereotype was saying, yeah, like, I have no problem with them taking it all.
01:23:40.960 That's precisely how the Israelis feel about the entire Levant.
01:23:44.880 So that Tucker interview exposed a lot.
01:23:52.460 Oh, no doubt.
01:23:53.480 No doubt it did.
01:23:54.520 Now, one of the things you mentioned earlier was, and it's funny because we're going to be doing this again in a bit,
01:24:00.840 but one of the things you mentioned was, and quite accurately, that there are forces moving from Syria to the Iraqi border.
01:24:09.240 We also know, and we had this report a couple of days ago, that the IRGC have gone to the Iranian border.
01:24:15.300 And the reason for that is because, obviously, they're expecting insurgency from that area, from, as you said,
01:24:22.320 the separatist belots, the separatist Kurds who have kind of formed an army, not an army, a militia group.
01:24:30.360 Yes.
01:24:30.640 Which has been confirmed by the CIA.
01:24:33.300 We know there's going to be other, basically, paid mercenaries, just like there was in Syria, who are going to try and come through.
01:24:41.220 And so the boots on the ground seems like it won't be American boots on the ground, but more so these boots on the ground.
01:24:47.940 The MEK is another example of people who tried to infiltrate and kill the Ayatollah, I think, I believe, yesterday or the day before.
01:24:53.080 And 100 of them got taken out.
01:24:55.220 So I guess I'm bringing this all together to say, A, what do you expect in terms of ground force attacks?
01:25:01.800 B, do you expect U.S. brews on the ground?
01:25:04.620 C, and how do you think that Iran is going to deal with it?
01:25:09.060 So, good question.
01:25:10.500 I think that the United States is going to heavily depend on the separatist groups you mentioned, that hate the Ayatollah, the blokes, the Kurds,
01:25:16.180 and all these other, you know, fairly, you know, ambiguous and smaller sects that, you know, the Druze that dislike the Ayatollah.
01:25:24.400 But what I think is going to happen, so what will probably happen is they'll let them do the brunt of the work,
01:25:28.380 and they'll have some, you know, Green Berets and Special Forces guys that will be there to train and help them.
01:25:33.620 But that's not going to be enough, in my opinion.
01:25:35.180 They're probably going to get fucking smoked by the IRGC, and the United States is going to have to get involved
01:25:39.240 and put boots on the ground at some point anyway.
01:25:40.900 Because, you know, Saddam Hussein fucked around and found out back in the 1980s that invading Iran is a fucking suicide mission.
01:25:47.900 They have the same, you know, unforgiving terrain that's in Afghanistan with an actual real army, right?
01:25:54.760 Like, you know, people forget that, you know, some of our most trained and elite soldiers were struggling to fight Taliban,
01:26:02.360 who are nothing more than ragtag militia idiots, in the early 2000s.
01:26:06.840 They were struggling simply because of the unforgiving environment.
01:26:10.280 So if you take that same environment, and now you're putting an actually trained and loyal military in that environment
01:26:17.520 that's a bigger country against, you know, Kurds and Special Forces, it's going to be horrible.
01:26:23.460 So the boots on the ground scenario is very low.
01:26:29.280 It's going to be like Vietnam, dude.
01:26:30.700 It's going to be like Vietnam, but worse.
01:26:33.180 Because Iran is such a big country.
01:26:35.280 They have an actual real military.
01:26:36.760 They're a capable military.
01:26:39.260 And a ground invasion, you're going to need to go all in to bigger levels than you did with Iraq.
01:26:45.500 Like, we had all those forces go into Iraq, and Iraq is significantly smaller than Iran.
01:26:50.440 You know, and we had issues there.
01:26:52.960 So, and the other thing that the Iranians have that's a huge advantage that Saddam didn't have is these guys have underground missile cities.
01:27:01.080 You know, they learned their lesson from Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi and all these other guys that were toppled,
01:27:08.860 that the United States, you know, with like Tomahawk missiles and precision and drones,
01:27:16.260 having things above ground is literally suicide.
01:27:19.540 So they've spent an enormous amount of money building an entire underground infrastructure
01:27:24.580 to house or protect their most prized weapons, which are their ballistic missile programs.
01:27:30.520 So, you know, when you add that into the fray, it's just a nightmare for any ground force.
01:27:35.620 So even if we had Green Berets there with, you know, Kurds and blokes and separatists,
01:27:40.480 and, you know, they could sit there and say, yeah, we're totally ready to take over.
01:27:43.760 If the government is toppled, it's going to be very difficult for them to do that with a ground invasion.
01:27:48.560 And Saddam Hussein, who had a super powerful military, tried this and, you know, ended up being an eight-year war
01:27:56.200 that basically the Iraqis lost.
01:27:58.720 And that actually led to his downfall because that war made him incur so much fucking debt
01:28:03.200 that he needed to invade Kuwait to recoup, and that's what led to desert storm.
01:28:08.200 So it's like, you know, people miss out on these historical facts that the unforgiving terrain of Iran
01:28:14.760 is actually what kept them safe and led to Saddam Hussein's downfall.
01:28:17.240 Yeah, and in terms of, from a war perspective, early indications were that Trump's initial plan
01:28:28.400 was for a short bombing campaign.
01:28:32.220 And as time's gone on, in January he was planned to attack, he pulled out.
01:28:36.740 February he was planned to attack, he pulled out.
01:28:38.340 But as time's gone on, they've realised that they can't do a short attack.
01:28:43.280 Iran has the firepower to hit back, and it's going to end up being a bit more of a longer war.
01:28:49.460 If you look at the artillery they've got there, the warplanes, the aircraft carrier,
01:28:57.020 basically what they've got there can only last maybe five to ten days, probably about seven to twelve days now,
01:29:01.760 or eight to fifteen days.
01:29:02.700 So looking at that, the fact that America hasn't got enough firepower there to last, let's say,
01:29:08.660 more than two weeks or two and a half weeks, and Iran just needs to play the long game,
01:29:13.900 how long do you think this ends up lasting?
01:29:15.800 So, I think it could go for months.
01:29:21.340 The Iranians are extremely resilient, and actually a war of attrition benefits them.
01:29:26.640 So, I think they could go for months.
01:29:29.720 I know the US, Trump is, he wanted to go for just a couple days or a couple weeks,
01:29:34.280 but I think Cain kind of came in and gave him a reality check, like, yeah, bro,
01:29:36.900 this is going to be a protracted war.
01:29:38.240 I think that's also another reason why Trump has, you know, kind of said,
01:29:42.280 you know what, okay, let me try to see if we can figure this out and prepare more from a protracted war angle.
01:29:46.440 Also, that Supreme Court ruling also fucked Trump up.
01:29:49.040 I'm pretty confident that he was planning to attack on Saturday,
01:29:51.780 but that Supreme Court ruling, you know, invalidating his tariffs,
01:29:56.060 he was going to rely on that same law to go to war with Iran without congressional approval.
01:29:59.280 A lot of people don't know that.
01:30:00.180 So, yes, that's why he had to go ahead and use, like, other laws to justify the tariffs
01:30:05.520 that he's also going to use to justify attacking Iran.
01:30:09.020 So, I think that threw a wrench in his thought process as well.
01:30:13.220 But I think now at this point, he's accepted the fact from his advisors,
01:30:16.760 especially because Cain was one of the main guys,
01:30:19.000 that this is going to be a protracted war, which isn't in our benefit at all,
01:30:22.940 especially with the limited resources and munitions that we have.
01:30:25.920 A couple people in the chat said, Myron, how do you know that?
01:30:27.580 Are you a part of the military?
01:30:28.600 No, it's just common sense.
01:30:30.380 Like, think about it.
01:30:31.200 The Russian conflict literally has been going on for four years.
01:30:34.420 How do you think the Ukraine has been able to fight all this time?
01:30:36.320 Like, NATO and us.
01:30:38.820 Like, people forget that we've literally been fighting a proxy war in Europe for four years now at this point.
01:30:44.360 And we are basically the only reason that the Ukrainians are even still able to put up a fight.
01:30:49.520 And that's coming at an enormous cost of our stockpile of weapons.
01:30:55.380 Yeah, exactly.
01:30:56.520 Yeah, exactly.
01:30:57.340 People have no idea the logistics surge, the push that's required for something.
01:31:01.940 Even that two-week period, and Sully, you're right, spot on about it being about two weeks.
01:31:07.400 With that carrier battle group and all that, we're looking at a couple weeks, maybe at a month.
01:31:11.840 But we need heavy, heavy, heavy resupply.
01:31:15.500 But to go the long game, like I agree with you, Myron, that they're going to have the asymmetrical factor
01:31:21.980 that the Iranians can throw at us at the U.S.
01:31:24.980 And also, the long game plays in their court.
01:31:29.940 That's their game.
01:31:31.000 We can't do it.
01:31:31.900 We couldn't do it in Vietnam, couldn't do it in Afghanistan.
01:31:34.640 And that Afghanistan long 20-year, that was a perfect example.
01:31:39.540 They've seen that.
01:31:40.340 They know that.
01:31:40.880 And also, the time is on their side from an economic perspective.
01:31:45.140 You know, the longer there's a strain on the world's oil, we're talking about, I mean,
01:31:50.800 I don't know if you've shared this with your audience yet, Salman.
01:31:54.100 You probably know this, though.
01:31:55.460 A couple of days ago, the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese were doing drills, right?
01:32:00.680 And Iran shut down the Strait of Hormuz for like two hours, right?
01:32:04.560 And oil prices shot from $50 a barrel all the way up to like $65, $70.
01:32:09.760 And that was just for a few hours.
01:32:11.020 Could you imagine if there's an actual conflict and they put, you know, they're full on in war,
01:32:14.580 they got the mines that they put at the seabed.
01:32:17.000 That in itself is going to make the gas prices, a barrel of oil, shoot up to $100, $150.
01:32:22.240 You know, we're talking into even the $200 range.
01:32:24.560 And we're all going to feel that at the pump.
01:32:26.720 So just by them shutting it down for two hours, there was a spike.
01:32:30.120 So I think from a time perspective, they could create an enormous amount of economic,
01:32:34.240 pressure as well.
01:32:35.240 And, you know, when it comes to economic pressure, that hurts everybody.
01:32:38.600 And that's actually more, that's what benefits them when it comes to a war of attrition as
01:32:42.820 well.
01:32:43.620 And I think that's a huge reason why the Chinese are even there sharing intelligence.
01:32:47.340 There's a big Chinese spy ship that's collecting on all the U.S. assets right now as we speak
01:32:52.220 because the Chinese have a super vested interest in ensuring that the Strait of Hormuz doesn't
01:32:56.560 get shut down because it's bullshit either.
01:32:58.000 Joe, I can't remember, but last time when there was the 12-day war, what did the oil prices
01:33:06.700 peak at?
01:33:07.820 Oh, good question.
01:33:12.140 Sam, I didn't tell you last time, Papa.
01:33:13.460 I don't think it went, Kurt.
01:33:15.480 Look, I don't remember.
01:33:16.520 Is he breaking up?
01:33:23.520 Yeah, I can't hear him.
01:33:24.600 I can't hear Joe at all.
01:33:25.460 Oh, okay.
01:33:25.860 He's breaking up.
01:33:26.520 If someone, that'd be interesting if we could pull that up, what the gas price, what the
01:33:29.440 barrel of oil was like back in June.
01:33:31.780 Yeah, I remember Simon mentioning that it went up to, just before the attack, it was roughly
01:33:38.720 at these numbers that we're at now.
01:33:40.960 And their perspective or their view was the reason it shot up was because it may be that
01:33:46.820 the war's happening, but we'll have to see.
01:33:48.420 If the war's not happening, then it will be because of the Strait of Hormuz thing.
01:33:52.180 The second thing is, in terms of where it peaked, I can't remember now, Joe will have to come
01:33:56.620 up, but it was only a 12-day war, and I believe, I can't remember what they said, I think they
01:34:02.420 said 90 or 100, but I can't remember now, so I'll have to wait for them to come up.
01:34:05.760 But yeah, that's going to be interesting, but you're right.
01:34:08.380 If it goes to a real war, if Iran, no, I mean, come on, if Iran shuts the Strait of Hormuz,
01:34:15.280 it won't just be 200, it'll end world trade.
01:34:18.080 Like, it's going to be the worst thing.
01:34:19.960 It'll be fucking catastrophic, bro.
01:34:22.100 It'll be catastrophic.
01:34:23.280 And I know I might have some people in here, right, because the counterargument I get for
01:34:26.300 this all the time is, well, you know, only 12% of the U.S.'s oil goes through there.
01:34:30.140 Okay, fine, but we live in a globalized world.
01:34:33.460 That doesn't mean that your food prices aren't going to go up.
01:34:36.120 That doesn't mean that your energy costs aren't going to go up, because a lot of people didn't
01:34:40.500 analyze this back in 2022.
01:34:42.500 When Russia invaded Ukraine, right, in February four years ago, I think it's like the anniversary
01:34:48.320 pretty much right around now anyway, that's what actually led to the spike in food prices,
01:34:53.460 right?
01:34:53.600 During the entire presidential campaign in 2024, both Kamala Harris and Trump were campaigning
01:34:58.020 on, oh, yeah, we got to get the food, the cost of living down, the price of food, blah,
01:35:01.340 blah.
01:35:01.820 Well, the reason why the food went up is because the Russia conflict.
01:35:04.660 And some people might say, well, Myra, why the fuck is a war in Eastern Europe?
01:35:07.660 What does that have to do with my, you know, bread and eggs?
01:35:10.020 Well, Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe.
01:35:12.320 So if the breadbasket of Europe is disrupted and they can't produce as much food as they
01:35:18.380 need to, now they're going to need to rely upon other sources to get said food for their
01:35:23.280 population.
01:35:23.920 That creates a strain.
01:35:25.280 Then, thanks to capitalism, what do they do?
01:35:27.740 They increase the prices because supply is down, demand is up, and that's how economics
01:35:31.940 works.
01:35:32.200 So even if you're far away from a conflict, it won't take long before you start feeling
01:35:36.180 the effects of said conflict economically.
01:35:40.040 So that is something that no one really talks about too much, is that how the Russia-Ukraine
01:35:44.160 war was, you know, a significant contributing factor to the spike in food prices in the United
01:35:51.300 States.
01:35:51.640 It took a while to reach us, but we eventually got hit by it to the point where it became
01:35:55.540 a campaign center point for both Trump and Kamala Harris.
01:35:59.100 Yeah.
01:36:02.200 No doubt, no doubt.
01:36:05.760 It's going to be one of the worst situations that could occur is, and that's the kind of
01:36:09.740 like the, you know, the final entendre, if they need to do the, that's like their nuclear
01:36:15.940 bomb is to just shut the Strait of Ramboose.
01:36:17.700 And it's not about China because China, even though the vast majority of trade China relies
01:36:23.780 on, but the world relies on Chinese trade, especially America.
01:36:27.080 They're interconnected and interlinked.
01:36:28.560 And this is what people don't realize.
01:36:30.240 And the Strait of Ramboose is a lot of their oil.
01:36:32.960 Exactly.
01:36:33.660 So everyone's going to feel it at some point.
01:36:35.760 Yeah, but the American market will feel it significantly.
01:36:41.640 Absolutely.
01:36:42.220 Now, coming back to the war, we know the Chinese are helping out quite a bit.
01:36:49.080 We know the Russians were helping out with the cyber.
01:36:51.300 So if you remember with the Starlink.
01:36:55.140 And logistics, Suley, and you to the Russians with logistics.
01:36:59.640 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:37:00.580 They'll help with the logistics because if you look at Starlink, it was the Russians who
01:37:07.260 helped pull out the Starlink because the Starlink was used in order to cause the civil unrest
01:37:12.480 and basically help the collaborators and the protesters.
01:37:14.940 So how much do you think the Russians are going to help?
01:37:19.320 With the Iranians?
01:37:22.480 Yeah, yeah.
01:37:23.080 Because remember, they've got a war on Russia.
01:37:24.480 Strictly intel and logistics support.
01:37:27.180 They're going to be even more pussy about direct conflict than the Chinese because of what
01:37:34.160 they got going on in Ukraine.
01:37:37.440 So I think it's going to be strictly logistics and intelligence sharing.
01:37:40.420 And also, a thing people don't look at is those ships, even if it's one or two of their surface
01:37:47.320 platforms in the Persian Gulf, there's always that problematic issue.
01:37:53.300 Oh, man, we've got the Russian ship in that vicinity.
01:37:57.120 It adds another dimension of complexity for the battle planners.
01:38:02.520 Sully, give me one second.
01:38:04.020 I'm going to do a quick switch on my end.
01:38:05.340 You guys can keep going.
01:38:06.040 I'm just going to mute myself.
01:38:07.420 Give me like one or two minutes.
01:38:08.560 I'll be right back.
01:38:09.040 But when was the thing?
01:38:13.220 It was mid-June.
01:38:14.120 Okay, guys.
01:38:14.700 So, guys, we're going to switch over to Kik right now.
01:38:16.440 We've already been on here way longer than I want to run for an hour 40.
01:38:20.020 Time to switch over to Kik, guys.
01:38:21.160 You niggas know what time it is.
01:38:22.440 Fuck YouTube and all these other bitch-ass platforms.
01:38:24.280 We're switching over to Kik right now.
01:38:25.760 Link is pinned.
01:38:26.880 Come on over.
01:38:27.520 It's pinned on YouTube, pinned on Rumble.
01:38:29.000 We're going to go Kik only and OSS only.
01:38:31.420 So either OSS or Kik.
01:38:32.980 Come on over, guys.
01:38:35.080 But Rumble, Party, Twitter, it's all going down.
01:38:38.060 Fuck Twitter, too.