00:33:39.920Why would they want to tell their constituents that they've basically got a buddy system with somebody who's representing a foreign country?
00:33:46.920It doesn't benefit the congressman for people to know that, so they're not going to tell you that.
00:33:50.740Okay, this interview was done in 2024.
00:41:43.700And AIPAC, guys, this is their website, is basically the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC, is an American pro-Israel lobbying group that advocates its policies to the legislative and executive branches of the United States.
00:41:56.880Translation, Congress and the President of the United States.
00:42:02.700That's why I made sure to define the legislative and executive branch for you guys at the top of the show, so you guys know exactly who they have power over.
00:42:13.700starting to make sense now chat starting to make sense
00:42:19.300this is how trump got a hundred million dollars from miriam adelson
00:42:24.660okay for those of you that don't know who miriam adelson i'll quickly show you who she is
00:42:30.040the biggest Republican donor her husband Sheldon Adelson was like basically a casino tycoon he
00:42:45.440died a couple of years ago okay but ultra rich billionaire she's a dual citizen she gave Trump1.00
00:43:23.980And especially now with as much heat as Israel's getting, they've made shell companies or shell organizations that are pro-Israel, but you don't know that.
00:43:32.780Well, the politician knows, of course, but like it's not publicly known.
00:43:36.160So you might see a candidate get a donation from like, you know, Friends United.0.91
00:43:42.440And then you do your research, you look at the president, it's like some Israeli name, Mordecai or some shit like that.0.88
01:06:30.800This is massive because yesterday the people who got voted to become senators
01:06:35.760voted to not allow the president to do what he wants to do with the war.
01:06:40.340So I don't think America is a pro-war.
01:06:44.040I don't think that's the argument that was made.
01:06:46.640So yesterday, U.S. Senate, Senate advances Iran war power resolution, historic first.
01:06:52.860The Senate voted 50 to 47 on Tuesday to advance war power resolution requiring Trump to end military operation in Iran and obtain congressional authorization.
01:07:01.740This was the eighth attempt since the war began February 28th and the first to succeed.
01:07:07.060And a decisive flip, Bill Cassidy, Republican Louisiana, who recently lost, who had voted on all prior time, switched after Louisiana primary, lost remote political leverage over him.
01:07:19.080The war has now run 81 days, 21 days past the 60-day War Powers Act of Legal Deadlines.
01:22:16.300I know a lot of people are happy, but it was a weird night last night.
01:22:19.200I think one issue is what you mentioned, this key example, the big, beautiful bill.
01:22:24.640So we have this huge piece of legislation with so many different issues put together, and that was used quite cleverly, if I may say, by the advertising against Massey, picking something that a lot of Americans would agree on in the Big Beautiful Bill and saying, oh, Massey voted against that.
01:22:50.380Well, actually, he found some bad points in the Big Beautiful Bill
01:22:54.220that a lot of Americans also think is bad,
01:22:56.820and that's why he thought we can't vote for it.
01:22:59.900And, you see, so the issue is you can actually mess things up
01:33:58.160It is dominated by the deep state, which is U.S. deep state dominates NATO.
01:34:03.300You know, there's just nobody in the NATO leadership.
01:34:06.340You think Trump and the U.S. wants this war to continue with Iran?
01:34:10.940You don't think they want it to be done?
01:34:12.320Well, what does Trump want concerning wars?
01:34:14.680I mean, I do think his personal true opinion is what he originally said back when he was first president, that he doesn't want any of this.
01:34:24.540But it looks like he's not really in control of that decision.
01:34:27.620So somebody else is making that decision for him, sadly.
01:34:31.780And I think there's the military-industrial...
01:35:10.580I don't think it's in America's interests.
01:35:12.600I fail to see how it is in America's acute interests at this same time.
01:35:16.520So would you see that that's the part where this argument gets manhandled by a clip from Trump in 1987 when he said he would attack, he would go to Carrick Island and he would Iran.
01:35:28.760This has been a message that's been given for a long time.
01:38:08.060He's like, I don't necessarily agree with what Shud the Builder does.0.82
01:38:11.120However, I do think that the black community or any community that allows a word to have that much power –0.83
01:38:18.920They should almost nerf the word, just like, you know, repurpose it or when people use it, just don't take offense.
01:38:27.960And my point to him was that's just not like if we go back in the history of all etymology, like that's just not how words are used and repurposed and put into place.
01:38:39.960if i say certain words to you about whether your religion or your mom or anything that's sacred to
01:38:46.200you when it and also the thing with chud when disrespect is intended even if it wasn't that
01:38:52.380word he would have found the word to put the disrespect in so it's hard to avoid when someone
01:38:57.480is seeking disrespect if you know i i said earlier and i'll throw it to you at this i said if you
01:39:04.760know because i'd seen a small part of like you know i guess you probably you went on a tirade
01:39:09.860and you said well you know what if you know there is a little bit of black fatigue and i said here's
01:39:17.220the thing when i look at like white people i do think white people are kind of tired of not being
01:39:23.500able to be themselves not not being able to like be proud of being white because historically in
01:39:28.300the last 10 years or so it has been where it's like hey if you're if you're proud to be white
01:39:32.660you're proud to be racist right and it's almost been like synonymous and i do i do see like the
01:39:37.420ties changed on that I don't have a problem necessarily
01:57:59.380And we don't even know if it's a gun yet.
01:58:01.100Like I said, he carries bear mace with him too.
01:58:03.240But if you're saying self-defense, it works both ways.
01:58:05.800If someone feels you're reaching for a gun based on what they've heard you say in the past and they punch you, it feels like it would be their self-defense, right?
01:58:15.180Well, no, because he closed the distance and was the aggressor.
02:03:28.800Well, again, we don't know what Chud knows when he decided to pull the trigger.1.00
02:03:35.500He could have hit him twice and knocked the wind out of him.
02:03:38.660He could have maybe had a weapon from what Chud saw.1.00
02:03:41.760He could have said something like, oh, you're going to die today.
02:03:44.120Like all of these different factors can easily help or justify an escalation to deadly force.
02:03:50.040Because obviously a fight situation, every millisecond, the facts are changing, which will allow you to justify the use of deadly force.
02:03:57.700So, you know, you could say, oh, one punch doesn't suffice.0.92
02:04:01.420But as I explained before with the female example, well, to a female it suffices, right?0.76
02:04:06.600So by definition, that means the person that is using the force must have a reasonable reason or a reasonable belief that they were in fear of death and or some serious bodily injury.0.77
02:04:18.240Which serious bodily injury could just be a broken bone.
02:04:21.500So with the fact pattern that I have, I think it's self-defense all day.
02:04:24.800Now, the other one you gave, because you gave a second scenario where you said he came to him and he was bladed like this and he was reaching for something.
02:04:32.100It's not illegal to reach for something.
02:04:33.900And we don't even know if it was his mace or his gun because he always carries mace around with him as well.
02:04:38.920And he normally always maces people first when they come to him.
02:04:42.580Establishing that he was reaching for something, especially given the fact that there hasn't, unless maybe he identified there was a threat before, kind of shows that he was already in a position to be the offender or he was anticipating getting hit.
02:06:43.160well I'm looking right now it's words meant
02:06:45.100to incite violence such as they may not0.85
02:06:47.060be protected under the first amendment um so basically chimping out is that chimping out
02:06:53.140when i hear chimping out you basically said the n-word i don't think that constitutes as a
02:06:58.780justification to punch somebody like there's no justification to punch somebody like zero
02:07:05.700i'm not arguing i'm not arguing that it means you could punch someone i'm arguing that the rhetoric
02:07:14.280that you approach that person with is now eliminated what you claimed you were there to do,
02:07:22.760which is practice your First Amendment right, because now you're not practicing your First
02:07:28.240Amendment right because you've approached with words and type of speech that's not protected.
02:07:33.760So already your goal is not even within the bounds of what is actually accepted,
02:07:40.000and then what happens from there we now have to look at differently so now okay all right fine
02:07:47.700let's say he it was some protective speech and the guy punches him well if it stops there the
02:07:52.620guy gets an assault charge it's a simple battery right that that's like a misdemeanor some places
02:07:57.460unless he really goes crazy on you it may be turned into a felony but that's what it is there
02:08:02.180when that is the only precursor right we got it like again you know and maybe for your audience0.94
02:08:09.480I'm using a ridiculous example. It's like, you know, if we all agree to go shoot up like our enemy's block, right?0.67
02:08:16.320And we all hop in a car and we're going to go there. Right. And during the commission of this crime, one of us gets shot.0.56
02:08:23.720They're probably going to charge us with murder. Or if we go to rob the bank and one of us get killed by the security guard.
02:08:30.200Yeah. You guys get charged with the murder. So it's like in a lot of cases, you've got to follow the the sequence of events of how this crime is committed.
02:08:39.480committed or how it devolves to the last step so chud is or chud is the first offender by
02:08:47.880utilizing these fighting words that then again it doesn't justify but it's the sequence of events
02:08:55.140right like for example you didn't rob the bank yet but walking into the bank you had the intent
02:09:00.080of robbing and then the security guard shoots your man right so again you got to follow the
02:09:05.220sequence of events and in none of the sequence of events is this guy being just unnecessarily
02:09:09.920provoked and and and unnecessarily being just like completely hey let's let let us call you a name
02:09:16.940that is um um provocative you know or you know or just you know provoke you and um i i think that's
02:09:24.440where so okay yeah so um number one um in this scenario like i said before chad wasn't the first
02:09:32.720offender because the guy came up to him so it was the guy that was the first offender he started
02:09:37.180having a conversation first he said yeah he said hello how you guys doing he didn't swear at them
02:09:42.800he didn't say anything he walked away then that's when the guy came up and said he knew who he was0.99
02:09:47.960he was like hey you better not say that chip out shit to me or call me a nigger otherwise it's0.99
02:09:51.340gonna be problems because i got ptsd blah blah and then he says or what you're gonna chip out0.99
02:09:54.980then he strikes chud also real quick assuming that he let's let's assume chud did call him a0.98
02:09:59.640nigger let's let's go best case scenario for the prosecution let's say he did call him a nigger0.93
02:10:04.320the word nigger still is not uh considered a fighting word uh uh according to u.s law0.96
02:10:10.140still not and then on top of that act just to be fair it's not a fighting word
02:10:15.080fighting words aren't necessarily just all spelt out it's fight words have a meaning behind them
02:10:24.200which means anything that has and this is why you know the sneaker debate constantly comes up is like
02:10:29.640If there's a shared meaning of offense or me trying to provoke you, that is going to be seen as a fighting word.
02:10:42.680There's not like clearly defined fighting word.
02:17:02.340However it's going to be nerfed by the fact that
02:17:05.760He got shot. The point is, if you are this raging racist who thinks that you're practicing your First Amendment right, you better be a black belt.0.98
02:17:13.860Because when somebody slaps you, you better be able to beat him to the ground, not try to shoot him and execute him.0.99
02:17:19.340They didn't charge him with they didn't charge him with just aggravated assault, which means you shot.
02:17:23.600They charged him with attempted murder, which means you tried to murder a man who punched you.
02:17:29.480And again, I know you said, well, maybe it's like 15 punches.
02:17:31.880well clearly you know and i get it you know you know maybe they're just overcharging we're gonna
02:17:36.220see what it is but the reason why he's sitting in jail now can't even take the bond that that's
02:17:41.680coming through with the um um go fund me this and third is because you miscalculate it's not only0.93
02:17:47.600that you were doing some crazy shit and you should have knew this were going to be the consequences0.94
02:17:51.240white skin or not so act you operated in a place where now you have to go rely on a bunch of jurors1.00
02:17:59.300to see your side you got played as much as he was running around calling black people stupid1.00
02:18:05.060calling them chimps the only person who was misinformed of the actual law the guy who shot1.00
02:18:10.800him yes he got shot he's not getting charged the only person who got handcuffs on him that0.99
02:18:15.920that's showing up to court looking dumb stupid when they say 1.25 million bail is you because0.99
02:18:22.660everything you were doing wasn't fully backed by the law and you know it wasn't fully backed by0.99
02:18:27.660it was i'm not so you believe he's solely charged okay so number one me and you both know that
02:18:35.880people get charged in high profile cases like this that are racially motivated because the
02:18:40.140da's office doesn't want to deal with it i'll be fair to you look at carmelo anthony when he
02:18:43.600stabbed austin metcalf he claimed self-defense but they still arrested him why because the state
02:18:48.120doesn't want to have to deal with the backlash that can come whenever these you know racially
02:18:52.520charged cases end in someone dying they'd rather push it to the grand jury or the jury that's
02:18:56.860number one number two when i mentioned that that stuff's not going to come in you do realize if
02:19:01.740that stuff does come in about his past all of that is going to give chud even more justification
02:19:07.780because he's an antagonizer he's a controversial person everybody hates him this allows him to be
02:19:14.440able to say look i'm on heightened alert because people are trying to kill me they dox my address
02:19:18.520blah blah this dude came up to me he's made threats to me before on facebook proven that
02:19:22.920he's provoking that particular incident he did it though that's the point he did not provoke this
02:19:27.760see you're relying upon past streams to justify this guy coming up and assaulting chud because
02:19:36.360of what he did on other streams this use of force incident real quick real quick this use of force
02:19:43.080incident is an isolated event and nothing really matters from before you can be a murderer a
02:19:49.160terrible person that stuff isn't going to come in now let's because i talked about this with0.57
02:19:52.960let me just finish he said to him you're chimping out that's if you said to that guy he's chimping
02:20:00.100out and for whatever reason he he takes that offense you have started a train of events
02:20:05.820he didn't because that guy came up to him in this isolated incident of use of force
02:20:12.500chud walked away the guy closed the distance he was the one that provoked then he punched
02:20:19.140chud first chud responding or you're gonna chimp out does not give this guy the legal right to0.94
02:20:25.880punch him under some ambiguous fighting terms phrase we know nigger doesn't even constitute0.98
02:20:30.540for that so how is chipping out gonna constitute dude this is like this opens up man wait you're0.98
02:20:36.960constantly um you're restating my point without actual i never said he has the right to punch him
02:20:45.760I've always thought provoked you're arguing
02:30:58.480He testified because only he can describe an excruciating detail precisely what was going through his mind as that guy came up with the skateboard and he decided to pull the finger on that AK-47 and kill him.
02:47:04.020But there isn't like there isn't this guy who's now provoking maybe a possible physical altercation because he understands the more you say that you keep stepping outside and doing it in people's faces.
02:47:19.140Yes. By the way, I've always said the person who's going to do something to this guy, they're going to acknowledge that they're getting an assault charge.
02:47:26.640of course yes they're gonna say you know what i'm gonna take a simple assault and go get a hundred
02:47:33.400thousand on go fund me that's what chud even responded to me because i said listen i'm not
02:47:38.660saying it's legal for someone to do it but when you offend a group and trust me i know people
02:47:43.240think that you know you know whether it's african americans or black people but i feel like he's
02:47:47.820attacking people that share black skin it's not even about you know it's one thing if you're like
02:47:52.620yo you're stripping all the accountability from black people and what you're arguing right now is0.98
02:47:57.540if you if you if you insult a black person you should expect to get punched and that's precisely0.98
02:48:03.260the problem if you well okay so i'll say this on the record if you insult black people as a0.98
02:48:12.340collective okay consistently okay expect something bad to happen to you i just don't know who will0.78
02:48:19.260be the radical who do it let's go with that let's go with that let's go with that let's go with that1.00
02:48:24.000okay all right okay let's go with that you're saying if you talk shit about black people0.99
02:48:30.880right yeah i you're you're saying it's not legal but someone's gonna hurt you fair0.99
02:48:36.060yes okay do you have the right to defend yourself if that happens then
02:48:40.940uh you uh you do case closed you lost all right that's it bro the case closed case
02:48:48.300yo like hold on wait close bro you're missing a bunch of things you're missing a bunch of things
02:48:54.820i i'll use i'll use personal examples okay people might think i antagonize rappers right
02:49:00.100no no because you missed you missed a bunch of steps if i go out to like a little baby concert
02:49:08.380and i try to engage with him antagonize him right and then he does something or someone
02:49:14.700with him does something then I react at that point I'm provoking him you see that's what we
02:49:21.560have to understand about the people like Chud and others you're provoking people in real life
02:49:26.960not behind your computer in real life in their face and the stakes are usually getting a fight
02:49:34.360or getting shot so this idea of like like for example no if someone broke into Chud's house
02:49:39.640and killed him I wouldn't be like oh this is great I'd be like oh that's actually a problem
03:08:50.120Hold on, I'm not saying the guy was right.
03:08:51.340What I'm saying is that I think he should be charged1.00
03:08:55.460with assault and Chud has the right charges.
03:08:58.800attempted murder hey we're defending himself the point is this we're defending himself you should
03:09:02.960not you cannot shoot listen you got punched in the face i'm listen we we should probably i want
03:09:09.180a lawyer to actually like and again we're not talking about this one percent possibility like
03:09:13.300oh no it was a girl what about if the person weighed twice the amount what about if they
03:09:17.340have a pacemaker what about it like that's not my argument on a balance of probabilities
03:09:22.500if you get punched like again you know a lot of people look at you in terms of yo yo
03:09:28.620Myron knows the law. You would not recommend to your audience that if they are legally licensed
03:09:34.720to carry a gun, if they got punched, they should shoot the person. That would be just sending them0.89
03:09:39.640to jail. It doesn't work like that. Again, getting punched in the face,0.86
03:09:44.600the reaction to that is relative and subjective. This is why the law is written where,
03:09:50.380is it reasonable? Me and you do not know the facts of what happened after he punched.
03:09:55.900When I talked about the pacemaker and the women, that's not the point act.
03:09:59.760The point was to establish that you even made concessions and said, oh, well, those people might have a justification to use deadly force.0.93
03:10:12.640You're really complicating this like big time.
03:10:14.640No, no, no. Me agreeing with you is like saying, hey, listen, yes, in any self-defense, you know, if you're going to use self-defense as a thing, you could probably try to justify it.
03:10:27.600my thing to you was hey could you if on a balance of probabilities on how often you think that would
03:10:35.980be successful I'm not saying it won't be successful here but would you give the opinion or the advice
03:10:44.120to someone that potentially is in Chud's position let's say we're removing other variables we're
03:10:50.340just going to call them unknown we don't know who approached who we don't know whatever all we know
03:10:54.560is a punch to the face all we know is a punch to the face do you advise a person who has a weapon
03:11:02.740to shoot the other person or do you not let's remove all other variables we're going to say
03:11:08.600unknown at this point only thing we know is someone got punched in the face on a balance
03:11:15.040of probabilities you have a hundred people in your chat a hundred people in my chat would you
03:11:18.780tell them that shooting someone after that you will probably be free or would you say see you
03:11:25.440in 20 years which one would you give the advice of i would say it depends on what you felt and saw
03:11:33.520at the time and it's always going to depend i'm asking you for a general a general thing about
03:11:40.880hey listen if we don't know the circumstances most likely if you do this when you get punched
03:14:32.180Okay, I agree with you. So you're agreeing that there is a tremendous leap and this is not proportional, but you do think that the other circumstances might actually justify proportionality, correct?
03:15:16.140That is. Self-defense generally is reciprocal, if you ask me. Like, for example, if you're minding your business and a guy comes and attacks you and you beat him to a bloody pulp, right, you've defended yourself with your fists or your feet and he attacked you with his fists and his feet.
03:15:45.340okay so if i beat him that is proportional in in in most cases where it gets charged is usually
03:15:52.460okay it's not proportional or it's really not self-defense at all okay so you just said i was
03:16:00.200i was i was arguing about fist and gun fist gun okay can all right again fist versus gun okay
03:16:10.660when it comes to proportionality you cannot measure off of just proportionality if you're
03:16:15.120gonna just try to compare an apple to an orange yeah then it wouldn't match up but that's not
03:16:19.420how self-defense works it's not generally there's no generality when it comes to self-defense because
03:16:24.800everyone's different what what one person can a punch kill you bro can one punch kill you
03:16:37.100in a two percent chance yes but are we talking about two percent that is the point you make
03:16:45.680this point a lot of hours where it's like hey listen we could we could nuance every conversation
03:16:51.060to yo i got this one friend you know she got married to her guy her guy don't cheat it's like
03:16:56.240you shut up like you ever you're just generally right bro nuance is the name of the game in
03:17:02.520self-defense. You cannot remove nuance0.96
03:20:44.840I'm telling the safe way to handle things.1.00
03:20:47.640You're not down to call this guy exactly what he is, a straight up pussy.0.99
03:20:50.840He got punched, and now he shot someone, and even if he doesn't get found guilty, he's in a position because the law doesn't exactly exonerate him on face value.0.99
03:21:04.160If it was something where he punched the guy back out, even if he punched him and the guy died, self-defense, he doesn't go to jail.
03:21:10.660okay act would it be do you agree well it's not even that you agree
03:21:15.540you know that use of force lethal use of force is based on reasonableness right
03:21:21.400yes okay so what one punch is to one person right you should be squabbling versus another
03:21:34.060punch to someone else might be lethal force it's contingent on the individual bro and and i've said
03:21:39.600repeatedly you're arguing a 15 point like the majority of americans if we go do a poll because
03:21:46.520these are the people who are going to be on the jury if we do a random poll you do realize that
03:21:49.700people get arrested for using anytime you get in a shooting bro even if you're in the right
03:21:53.860you're gonna get arrested 90 of the time all right you're gonna get arrested we have a couple
03:21:59.040thousand here we should do a poll get at least 2 000 votes just these two facts again we could
03:22:05.740argue the other facts is using a gun after you've gotten punched self-defense and i guarantee most
03:22:14.280people would say no no that that's not like you're isolating somebody you're isolating a very specific
03:22:21.040point without adding context and we cannot assess a self-defense case off of that alone
03:22:26.340bro and and and to that point i say that's that's that's a 15 thing because now you're using like
03:22:33.540these nuances to try to justify which is like no let's let's analyze the generalities if you see
03:22:40.540on face value that someone used a gun yeah that's for a punch that's something that it better have
03:22:47.040so much nuance to it i don't think it does you think it does i don't think it does right now
03:22:52.440you think you do you want me to look it up go ahead okay look up what hold on let me let me
03:22:58.480let me pull this shit up right now let me what is the percentage of people arrested after0.90
03:23:09.820self-defense shooting on probable cause unarmed you also got to mention that0.99
03:23:20.040someone attacks you unarmed you shoot them kill them and they and they do not get an arrest0.64
03:23:26.440again you do realize that your hands can be considered a deadly weapon like you don't1.00
03:23:32.240necessarily because you just said earlier oh you beat somebody with a within a bloody pulp like
03:23:37.140that proves that hands can be a deadly weapon like you're right okay so so it's not really the
03:23:42.920weapon it's the use of force that matters it doesn't whether it's a gun a knife your fist
03:23:47.320it doesn't really matter what the weapon is it's how are you using said weapons and what you're
03:23:52.120trying to effectuate if someone punches you in the mouth and again like i i don't know if you're
03:23:59.740you see you're trying to get this other nuance oh he beat the we saw chuds a mug shot he doesn't
03:24:05.680look like matter of fact i think that bozo shot himself like he had a he had a mark on his head
03:24:11.360yeah well i guess the other guy got a bullet wound too so we don't know which proves that
03:24:16.660he did get hit so it's like you know and we don't know yeah well he got a he got a little
03:24:21.680right hand and again you know it's about where you're going i'm cool with either i'm cool either
03:24:29.300because i carry a gun i would love if the law was if somebody touches you you put him 10 feet below
03:24:35.840the ground that's just not the law because i would walk around with my hand on that thing yes it is
03:24:41.360but that's not the law yes it is the law is that somebody touches you at all or you know i mean
03:24:46.620like say somebody said oh you myron and they swing on you you shoot him dead you can't bro you're
03:24:50.860go to jail here's the thing it depends it's nuanced on face value say yo somebody comes up0.97
03:24:56.180and swings at you you you can't just shoot him okay did he have other people with him did he0.99
03:25:00.440say i'm gonna kill you did he say i but you know did he like uh try to swing at me or hit me in a0.99
03:25:05.160you know right in the face or in the back of the head like did it was there somewhere else like0.99
03:25:09.840was it late at night all these different factors come in bro like act what you're trying to do is
03:25:13.460you're trying to filter it doesn't exist all right he got one mark here let's say he gets
03:25:19.900punched directly in the face here could he shoot the guy you're not trying to just denounce it0.59
03:25:23.900if he gets punched one hard time could he shoot the guy we're making this up we don't know the0.99
03:25:29.780full thing but if he gets punched hey yo if you say that one more time i'm gonna blah blah i'm0.99
03:25:35.180gonna crash out oh if i say you're chimping out bang could you shoot him if someone punches you0.98
03:25:41.680you can absolutely justify shooting them based on the context yes one punch can justify deadly0.97
03:25:48.780force bro what bro i'm not it's the wall but you're arguing i keep saying when you say that
03:25:57.280you're arguing a 15 if someone punches you like just normal like you're acting like oh if they
03:26:02.020punch you and we don't even know you're just guessing that we have no reason to not guess
03:26:08.880it the guy was coherent enough to still talk on stream bro like yeah like you know you're giving0.98
03:26:13.700him a list of circumstances that he's not even asked for yet i'm asking you generally generally
03:26:18.700if someone punched you bro you're still able and sound mind and you shoot them are you going to
03:26:24.820jail are you going to be kicking it on the stream here's the case right here here's the case right0.88
03:26:28.100here okay chad went to the courthouse on official business people say he was there for some matter
03:26:32.240i don't really know this comes from a witness hold on hold on let me this is someone that
03:26:35.840literally watched on the live stream this is a statement he gave okay uh i don't really know
03:26:41.840what it was for, but makes sense considering he was well dressed in a suit. He's just taking a
03:26:45.260stroll, talking about his upcoming interview with Harrison Smith from him for saying how it's good
03:26:48.440to just take a stroll before giving an interview. He notices a black couple pointing at him and he
03:26:53.000walks past them and asks if they are having a good day and they like his suit. And if they like his
03:26:57.000suit, really just trying to have a conversation with them because they initiated by pointing at
03:27:00.040him. So he's curious to know what's up. After he asks how they're doing, the guy responds with get
03:27:04.920out of here or something to the effect that and Chud says, I'm free to be where I want to be.0.59
03:27:09.860Black dude says something else, and Chud simply walks away.0.94
03:27:12.380As Chud walks away, the black guy tells him he has PTSD,0.97
03:27:15.520and then he won't put with him, I think he means put up with him,0.99
03:27:19.860calling him a nigger or saying, chimp out.0.99
03:27:21.520Chud then says, what? Are you going to chimp out?1.00
03:27:23.840Chud is still recording but walking away.0.86
03:27:25.660That's when you can see the black guy stand up from about 50 to 60 feet away from Chud.
03:27:30.540I don't know exactly how many feet, but it was quite a significant distance,
03:27:33.600and he begins to advance towards Chud.
03:27:35.060Chud stops walking, and the black guy catches up to Chud,
03:27:37.600and they're in each other's faces.0.98
03:27:38.640literally inches apart the black guy tells chud call me a nigger mace me mace me trying to provoke0.99
03:27:44.140chud see there so there he goes chud told him i'm gonna mace you so there you go you have more0.99
03:27:48.460evidence because chud always carries mace so call me a nigger mace me mace me trying to provoke chud0.96
03:27:52.780and when he gets no response from chud he punches chud in the head the cameras then knock to the0.95
03:27:57.820ground seconds later you're here you can hear four or five gunshots pop off then you can hear people
03:28:02.840running towards them and chud saying get him off me the rest of audio you can find online if you
03:28:06.780look around but that's what i saw happen live on stream did chud use any slurs no never use a single0.58
03:28:12.960racial slur whatsoever besides or are you going to chimp out so how important do you think the0.76
03:28:17.140live stream footage is and he goes if it comes out he's going to be exonerated and keep in mind
03:28:20.780the police did not have the live stream when they wrote that arrest warrant that you're talking about
03:28:24.300they did not have the live stream okay and and and i'm down to put a friendly bet that this is all
03:28:29.980cap i've looked at this guy's account while you're reading this he's calling people he's calling0.87
03:28:34.220black people um watermelon eating monkeys like this guy's just as bad he's like chud except on
03:28:40.500the internet so i'm pretty sure he wouldn't see any any here's the thing um interaction this i1.00
03:28:46.160wouldn't see any this is someone yeah he interviewed somebody that saw the stream this isn't the guy
03:28:50.060this dude right here is not i wouldn't take his account for it i wouldn't take his account for
03:28:53.900that's what i'm saying if if the video says all of this i might change my mind but would i listen
03:28:59.020to this guy go on his page and scroll down a bit well here's the thing clearly don't like
03:29:04.460black people either that's what i'm saying is that he doesn't have to like black people i got
03:29:07.360people in my chat bro in my community that told me they watched the video so how come no one has0.73
03:29:11.880this recording because i at this point i'm guessing that if someone was watching that recording the
03:29:16.780guy gets like 200 viewers on pump fund they're probably racist already so again i just want to
03:29:22.380see the video maybe the video actually says if the video is all this i might have a different
03:29:26.500we would have a different conversation if this was oh he said no racial slurs the guy was probably
03:29:32.440let's say that like we're making this up right but let's say the guy is you know he's kind of
03:29:36.920extra amped up because you know there's a lot of hatred for chud online and he's pushing the issue
03:29:41.100because he wanted to see if chud will try him and and basically he just punches chud i'm gonna sit
03:29:46.340here and be like oh yeah no whatever whatever now i don't like chud but i'm not gonna say that chud
03:29:49.980is guilty but from everything that we're seeing like again i'm going off i'm going off the arrest
03:29:55.560warrant i'm going off there's other people who have said whatever and also the video that shows
03:30:00.500them kind of tangling on the ground doesn't look like chud was like no get me out of here get him0.96
03:30:04.840off of me it looked like chud was giving that nigga the beats i'm gonna be honest that's after0.97
03:30:08.700again that was after the shooting but look we can wait until the footage comes out but this is0.94
03:30:13.580the reason why i told you this is because i've heard this same exact story from several people
03:30:19.580not just on x but in my own community that i trust so that's why i know that that's why i've
03:30:26.380heard this story before and i go ahead but that's like an echo chamber like half of those people
03:30:31.580that are watching this it's either they have a a a severe dislike for one third of my audience
03:30:38.680bro one third of my audience is black acting a certain way or they feel emboldened by chud0.99
03:30:42.940there's so many people who they're too pussy to do it bro one third of my audience is black0.99
03:30:47.320literally one-third of my one-third black one-third hispanic but i'm trying to tell you0.99
03:30:51.920okay i'll give you an example like you go out you do the college things and i think i think that's
03:30:59.520why i think it's blown up way past your after hours stuff i think what you do now is really
03:31:03.660good but you got to be careful but the only reason i say that is that there's so many people that
03:31:08.180wish well they've always done that with you they wish they could talk to women like you they wish
03:31:12.480they could talk to jewish people like you they wish they could do that in real life you are doing
03:31:17.560it so a lot of people they might even be jewish themselves or whoever you're you're you kind of1.00
03:31:23.080emboldt them to be like he's the guy that's doing what we can't do you're humbling the bitches who0.99
03:31:27.820think they're too good you're saying to the jewish people what people would call them anti-semitic1.00
03:31:32.560and they'll lose their job you're doing it what chud is doing or was doing was there was a lot0.68
03:31:38.160of people whether they were ever black because you know what there's some people who are black
03:31:42.060that disassociate with that be like hey talking about me oh chimping out that's not me like no
03:31:46.860when he says chimping out he's it's not just an action maybe if it wasn't him saying it with the
03:31:51.620racial context maybe chimping out could just be an action chimping out means black behavior let's
03:31:57.500be honest right like and again he's talking about people that share that skin color but there's
03:32:03.920still people that say nah he's not talking about me he's you know he's talking about y'all ghetto0.99
03:32:08.480black people y'all people who y'all black people who choose gangs y'all love violence the ratchet1.00
03:32:13.520motherfuckers and we all kind of do that disassociated to a certain extent i don't like1.00
03:32:18.260to be associated with ratchet motherfuckers who black but at the end of the day this chud dude1.00
03:32:22.980he you could tell his whole thing was to he was saying it about all black people1.00
03:32:28.380okay this wasn't like let's assume oh i hate gang members okay so let's assume all that is true0.63
03:46:08.440but in that situation when it comes to how much money the judge takes into account0.90
03:46:14.640usually what you could afford to reasonably guarantee the court so it's not the same for
03:46:19.560everyone that's definitely we do know this right it's not like it's not a one-size listen it's a
03:46:24.800there's no court that says hey attempted murder you get out on quarter million and then they just
03:46:30.360randomly pick chud no no no yo they look at what they think you could reasonably afford put it like
03:46:35.460this it's the reason why diddy was offering 50 million dollars right hey quarter million dollars
03:46:41.280is nothing to you we can't guarantee you're going to return we can't guarantee nothing that's you're
03:46:46.020putting up collateral collateral is going to be based on what's your family life what's your
03:46:51.320um how much money is um you know are you married like how much could you afford that we feel we
03:46:58.920are reasonably satisfied also here's the thing about the court making those type of things
03:47:03.440the judge has no like there's no litmus test obviously has to go through like the the three
03:47:09.560main variables of if you know flight risk um danger um community and and whatever but so look
03:47:16.460he has complete subjective um he has complete subjective authority on that all right so chud0.60
03:47:24.580there is no there is no fucking like schedule where it's like hey if you make in between this0.83
03:47:29.280OK, literally. So here's the thing. Excessive bail should not be required. Right. That's Tennessee Constitution right there. Look at his bond compared to everybody else. You look at this graphic. A lot of these people are black and murderers. This is what charge you the same thing with worse with other people got charged with murder act.0.94
03:51:15.180I don't think I don't think the bond is excessive if they allow for, you know, his family to back that collateral or how they structure it.
03:51:25.240I think that a guy who is a social media known figure who, uh, based on his job occupation and hold on, it probably could, it probably could be even argued that he got arrested or he committed this crime while he was doing his job.
03:51:44.760and in most places you should have insurance if you're doing your job and you have you happen to
03:51:49.800get a charge or something of the sort you usually have insurance that could kick in to be like hey
03:51:53.880we're going to protect you legally so again i don't see them treating this as some random guy
03:51:57.720going to kick in a door granted same crime if he tried if they try to murder someone yes it should
03:52:03.400be treated like that in terms of guilty or innocence but if they know that you're a social
03:52:08.280media personality and these other things they're going to make sure that bond is high the reason
03:56:10.380And he probably has a sister working at CVS.
03:56:12.780Like for him to put up that collateral for a quarter million dollars, right?
03:56:17.280Whether they're going to go with a bail bondsman to pay $25,000, it's going to be a significantly weighted more that you're going to guarantee that he's going to show back up to court.
03:56:27.380And if he was on that bond, he would probably highly – it's incentivized for everybody around him to make sure he doesn't reoffend because you're taking a significant amount of money, which is a first-degree crime, from the people around him that are basically vouching on collateral form.
03:56:44.040Dalton, eitherly, this guy is damn near,0.93
03:56:47.000some people call him a white supremacist.
03:56:48.840And I believe that when we look at his potential financial earning,
03:56:54.640given the fact that he's free, I think it's up to $10 million.
03:57:10.440I think they're going to reduce it to $750 million.
03:57:13.200yeah they probably will they probably will yeah because i it's not again it's it he's a he's a
03:57:19.320popular figure so of course they're gonna make it expensive in the beginning but yeah they're
03:57:22.520gonna lower it and get him out of there so if you ask me i think there's gonna be a bond package
03:57:27.180which you know i don't think they were prepared to really offer it at the time when well they
03:57:31.500just didn't even listen to that he just said a bond if they come back with hey listen he's not
03:57:37.080gonna be streaming right um which that might be also difficult because if that's the way he makes
03:57:42.520money like hey get him out of there he'll have an ankle monitor on so okay he can stream but he'll
03:57:46.700be in the house he'll be in the house he can't talk about the case and if they make certain type
03:57:51.020of you know things that will make the court more comfortable i could definitely see them coming off
03:57:54.600that 1.5 you know 700,000 um maybe 500,000 but um at some point he'll get out it's just that
03:58:01.580i definitely believe the court's going to curb that behavior of what led to this yeah of course
03:58:06.120i mean they're going to bring all the factors in flight risk reputation all that stuff is
03:58:09.860considered but i'm saying even with all of that considered i think 1.25 is still excessive
03:58:14.300compared to other people but that's again that's an argument that the lawyers are going to make
03:58:17.900you know what i mean that's that's literally what they get paid to do so they'll you know
03:58:21.440cite legal uh precedent look at other cases all that stuff so that's kind of you know it is what
03:58:27.620it is but we'll see bro we'll see i mean tomorrow's a big day for him so you know it is what
03:58:31.620it is okay so wrapping up here but we do have a lot more to talk about but i know you got to do
03:58:35.520your stream i gotta get some topics that people want music uh so okay so let's just see you know
03:58:41.640and by the way for people who are watching this you could have a um a friendly debate where you
03:58:46.820disagree and you know again time is always the master is going to tell us who's right or you
03:58:51.740know whatever it could still be really respectful i hope people will learn from that okay yeah
03:58:55.280civil debate man civil debate level yeah let's broad level just figure out where we land on this
03:59:00.080I think I think I believe it's a little bit cook. I don't believe he has a self-defense case.
03:59:08.740And I do believe that one of the biggest things in this case is going to determine whether proportional force.
03:59:16.460Can you do this? Can you summarize? OK, how about let's I'm gonna take a quick piss.
03:59:21.420What I'm thinking we do to close this thing out is you give me what you think happened and then your prediction and then I'll and then I'll give.
04:01:20.340And essentially, he gets charged after being held for a while after they realize and say, hey, listen, there's your self-defense claim is has so many holes in it.
04:01:31.620It's possible that you could have been the provoker.
04:01:33.680And also, number two, it's not proportional force.
04:01:36.680So those two things, I think, have hasn't been legal hot water.
04:09:22.860because despite the fact that people don't like Chud,
04:09:26.360Despite the fact that people think he's a racist, none of that matters.
04:09:30.060What matters is what transpired on that day in this specific interaction, and in this interaction, he walked away, he disengaged, the individual closed a significant amount of distance towards him and continued talking and then struck him first.
04:09:44.520Chud is 100% within his right to defend himself.
04:09:48.020Now, you made the distinction, well, I don't think he has the right to use deadly force.
04:09:52.400Your argument is he could defend himself but not with deadly force.
04:09:54.400my rebuttal to you is we don't know if he's justified using the deadly force and that's
04:10:01.280my position because we don't know all the facts and what was going on through his head okay so
04:10:05.940i am taking the legal route here neither of us can say he's not justified because we weren't there
04:10:11.700and according to the law that's how it's done it's based on the individual's own personal
04:10:16.660recollection of what they felt and saw at the time they were in the use of force instinct so
04:10:21.200we'll have to see the video to get everything out but based on credible witnesses what i see my
04:10:25.740knowledge talking with self-defense lawyers that is the um position i have based on talking to
04:10:30.740experts my own experience etc all right and i and i hear um again we'll see and we can agree to
04:10:38.120disagree and when the video comes out we can chat you know you have a major final prediction i think
04:10:43.260oh you won't get fully prosecuted he'll he'll he'll take a plea i think i think shut the builder
04:10:49.040the the white knight uh supremacist is his career is over and we'll now see dalton um come back if
04:10:58.320he ever wants to you know i i don't know if these audios are real but he's like oh i miss my girl
04:11:02.160yeah well bubba or or maybe tyrone is in it i could keep a company i don't think he'll be doing
04:11:08.940any more um yeah i think he'll be done with the the antagonization which that was the whole thing
04:11:15.760You know, people are just saying, listen, if you got to get smoked, you got to get smoked.
04:11:19.520You got to get him out of the way. Look like he's learned a lesson, whether he does a year in jail.
04:11:23.420He's doing jail time now, regardless. As long as this behavior, he realizes it's not it's not sustainable.
04:11:31.340You can't do this and think you're not going to keep being in these positions or probably, you know, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you.0.96
04:11:38.140The black guy who the black guy who pulled up on him, you know, might not be the smartest.1.00
04:11:44.260Like, they should have left Chud's brains on the pavement1.00
04:12:13.320Okay, if the video comes out and it gets past grand jury and it shows what people have told me, the prosecutor is either going to dismiss the charges or give him a simple assault thing, a plea deal, instead of actually charging him.
04:12:27.600Or sorry, instead of actually going through with the attempted murder.
04:48:18.660And as you guys know, I like to call the channel monkey activity.
04:48:21.400that you could prove as a prosecutor that hey the money went here but it's not for what it was
04:48:35.500intended for how does that factor into the story that you're going to tell to a jury if it even
04:48:38.720gets to that point so chris these cases are primarily built in one of three ways or usually
04:48:43.220all three obviously wiretaps if you have the defendant's own words that's helpful right
04:48:47.420text messages recorded i'd be really shocked if they got a uh wiretap but it's a state who knows
04:48:52.460phone calls then you need a lot of probable cause to get a wiretap chat sort of the next best thing
04:48:57.120is an undercover in this case of an fbi agent who is posing you know abba the milk cow shout out to
04:49:02.820you someone that might help with this hit the third still helpful but i think not as helpful
04:49:08.300as other two are cooperators because you have people that might you know have a motivation to
04:49:12.820Give me one second and just try to save themselves.
04:49:15.780You know, sometimes they have their own criminal history that can get impeached on cross-examination.
04:49:19.840But primarily because all this conduct really happens behind closed doors, those are the three ways that you build these types of cases.
04:49:25.200And to answer your first question, probably are the reason why it took so long to get your ears.
04:49:29.420What happens over that period of time?
04:49:30.680Because for five years, if you have someone who is willing to pay money to kill somebody,
04:49:35.200and then obviously this custody issue apparently was going on for such a long period of time,
04:49:39.120like what is law enforcement doing to make sure that this person doesn't actually go through with
04:49:44.060it yeah i mean that's really the best question right i mean we've seen it in other cases where
04:49:48.680law enforcement has taken too long and there's a killer a potential killer loose you know you and
04:49:52.380i we've talked about the david case for instance right where you know there's someone else found
04:49:55.980that you know in september and it took many many months to make an arrest and people were sort of
04:49:59.760critical i think that's a valid criticism as well obviously we want law enforcement to get it right
04:50:04.160But if there's someone who is a potential killer out there, you know, and you allow them to go through with a murder or a murder for hire, I mean, that's a huge problem if you're law enforcement.
04:50:14.360On the flip side, the delay can also help the defense.
04:50:16.840It allows them to argue, look, I was really upset.
04:50:19.240This is the middle of a custody hearing.
04:50:22.220There was no real plot to kill him.0.99
04:50:23.760You know, I just said, like, you know, I hope he dies and, you know, I can't wait for someone to kill him.0.96
04:50:28.260Obviously, that's not the best position to be in if you're the defense.0.96
04:50:31.340But if you can argue, hey, nothing really happened over the span of five years, that's certainly something that may resonate with the jury.
04:50:36.960It's interesting because Gabby Gonzalez, she's obviously for people who are on TikTok and kind of social media.
04:50:40.620She's one of those influencers that have she has quite a following.
04:50:43.800And in the arrest documents that we have related to her dad, it seems like they are alleging that she was part of this conspiracy, that she wanted the father of her daughter dead and was going along.
04:50:55.520They're accusing her of going along with what her dad wanted to do here and paying the money.
04:50:59.480but it doesn't seem like she was the one who paid the money to do it. She may have said that she
04:51:02.280wanted it done, but it doesn't seem like at least from what we have at this point, and we'll see
04:51:06.400what evidence comes out on her case in California, but it doesn't seem like they have the receipts
04:51:10.280that they do for her dad. What do you need to prove in cases like this when you're talking
04:51:13.900about conspiracy that it's not just someone saying like, yeah, I'd like the guy dead, but
04:51:16.620actually they wanted to go through with it. Yeah. So for conspiracy, you have to prove a few things
04:51:20.420and unlawful agreement between two or more people. And you have to prove and overact something really
04:51:26.460substantial and furtherance of that conspiracy right so obviously any type of payment or attempted
04:51:30.320payment to a hitman that's enough but you're right there's a very interesting potential dynamic here
04:51:36.560where you could have someone like gabby for instance disclaim knowing anything and saying
04:51:40.240look this was all that and you can have some finger pointing there and again going back to
04:51:44.180that case that just got a lot of attention a lot of folks were prosecuted the dan markell case
04:51:48.460you have in that case you know the hitman the mother of the spouse the brother of the spouse
04:51:56.160the girlfriend of the brother everyone was prosecuted in that case except the spouse
04:51:59.600who really had the most to gain from you know the father being dead in a custody dispute so it's
04:52:04.880certainly possible that some family members were calling the shots and were co-conspirators and
04:52:09.400gabby didn't know you know so it's gonna be fascinating to kind of present a united frontier
04:52:12.840and say there was no conspiracy and this was exaggeration no overt acts defend it as a united
04:52:18.080front or does gabby sort of point the finger at her father all right please video time
04:52:26.160No, okay, why don't you step out for me first?
04:52:31.160Why do you want me to step out, though?
04:53:24.160Why? Why? Why don't you just tuck me right here? Why don't you just tuck me out here? Like, what the hell? Why don't I get a look out of my car?
04:53:36.900Because we don't know what's in here. Where did I just come over here?
04:53:40.180I'm not reaching. You guys have to see my ID. I got stuff everywhere. Look. I got stuff all over the ground. I got stuff everywhere. Come on.
04:53:48.660dude really come on dude like why why are you gonna do that just relax dude why are you gonna
04:53:56.660do why are you gonna do that just relax just come outside come on man like step to the park
04:54:01.220i'm not doing anything bad okay then let's go over here and we'll be everything will be good
04:54:04.980everything everything checks out all right like why why i'm not doing anything bad i mean come on