The Debrief With MyronGainesX - What Did Seal Team 6 Find In Bin Laden's Compound？ SHOCKING Future Plots Revealed...

00:00:00.720 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to Fed It, man. Today we're going to be talking about Osama bin Laden and him getting raided by SEAL TM6.

00:00:07.620 This is part three of the 9-11 series, guys. Let's get into it. We've got a lot to cover on this one.

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00:02:03.900 We're back, guys.

00:02:04.760 What's up?

00:02:05.100 Welcome to Fed It Man.

00:02:06.320 Today, like I said, we're going to cover part three of the 9-11 series, guys.

00:02:09.660 Today's episode is going to be on the Bin Laden raid.

00:02:12.820 And what the SEAL Team 6 was able to recover from his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, when

00:02:20.180 they went and raided it on May 1st.

00:02:22.200 So we'll get right into it, guys, here.

00:02:24.140 So let me just hit share screen with y'all real fast.

00:02:28.260 We're going to go ahead and cover a 60-minute interview with a guy named, it goes by Mark

00:02:33.800 Owen, but his real name, I think, is Matt Reset or something like that.

00:02:37.640 He actually ended up writing a book about this raid, which ended up costing him a lot of money,

00:02:44.180 which we'll talk about that in a little bit more detail.

00:02:46.080 But let's go ahead and cover this 60-minute interview because it's really interesting to see

00:02:50.320 how they planned and carried out this raid.

00:02:54.060 All right, guys.

00:02:54.540 So without further ado, let's get right into this bad boy.

00:02:58.680 That No Easy Day is not about him.

00:03:01.060 He says it's a No Easy Day is the name of the book.

00:03:03.900 A tribute to the hundreds of Americans who gathered intelligence, planned and trained in

00:03:09.580 the 10-year pursuit of the world's most wanted man.

00:03:13.520 SEAL Team 6, he told us, just took care of the last 40 minutes.

00:03:17.720 Was this a mission, was the plan to kill Osama bin Laden or capture him before you went in?

00:03:26.700 This was absolutely not a kill-only mission.

00:03:31.940 Keyword, not.

00:03:33.280 Stop the cap. 0.94

00:03:34.480 A kill-only mission.

00:03:35.420 I think their biggest thing was obviously to capture him, right, if they can, so they can gain

00:03:39.380 intelligence.

00:03:39.880 But at the same time, let's be honest, man.

00:03:41.780 If they got a chance to kill him, you know, it is what it is.

00:03:45.380 I mean, this is the most wanted terrorist of all time, but I could see why it was capture 0.95

00:03:49.400 first, kill if you must, because obviously debriefing him would yield a whole bunch of 0.61

00:03:53.400 intelligence. 0.99

00:03:54.860 It was made very clear to us throughout our training for this that, hey, if given the

00:04:02.580 opportunity, this is not an assassination, you will capture him alive if feasible.

00:04:10.020 So that was the preferred thing to take him alive, if you could.

00:04:14.700 Yeah.

00:04:14.940 Yeah.

00:04:15.080 I mean, we're not, we're not there to assassinate somebody.

00:04:17.420 We weren't sent in to murder him. 0.87

00:04:19.960 This was, hey, kill.

00:04:20.960 And also just want to let you guys know, also just to give you guys a quick little reminder,

00:04:25.140 keep in mind at this point, the CIA had identified where he was.

00:04:27.940 They tracked him using a courier because that was his only correspondence with the outside world.

00:04:32.640 And they had been watching the compound for a few months.

00:04:35.480 So this is leading up to the assault on the compound, because at this point, they identified

00:04:39.640 it.

00:04:40.160 They pretty much were 99% sure that he was there.

00:04:43.440 So, so, you know, through the work of the CIA and the FBI working together, they were

00:04:48.100 able to go ahead and identify the courier, which we broke down in the last episode as to

00:04:53.040 how the CIA tracked Bin Laden down on and about about Pakistan.

00:04:57.680 So remember, guys, you know, if you want to really understand this entire series here,

00:05:02.660 part one covers the FBI's investigation into 9-11 attacks, how they were able to identify

00:05:06.980 back to Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden. 0.83

00:05:08.520 Part two is the CIA's hunt for Bin Laden and how they were able to identify him and track

00:05:12.760 him down to that courier.

00:05:13.700 And now part three is this episode that we're covering right now, where we're going to actually

00:05:17.380 go into, excuse me, we're actually going to go into how the SEAL Team 6 raided the

00:05:23.500 compound, killed Bin Laden, and what they found when they raided the compound, right?

00:05:27.840 So let's keep going.

00:05:29.180 This is a firsthand account from someone who was there.

00:05:34.280 The raid, May 1st, 2011, had been years in the making.

00:05:38.220 But in the moment, the best laid plans failed, leaving a small team of Americans to improvise 0.98

00:05:44.500 victory from near disaster.

00:05:47.120 Yeah, and I want to let y'all know that this was a very difficult mission, man.

00:05:51.040 Everything that could go wrong went wrong on this.

00:05:53.300 Unless you saw the movie Zero Dark Thirty, or you've read extensively about this raid, 0.98

00:05:57.980 it was a clusterfuck, man.

00:05:59.440 And the fact that these guys were able to pull it off smoothly after really goes to show 0.99

00:06:03.300 that's why they're the military's elite unit, man.

00:06:06.300 Navy SEAL Team 6 here.

00:06:08.020 This operation was one of the most significant operations in U.S. history.

00:06:13.040 And it's something that I believe deserves to be told right and deserves to go on.

00:06:18.660 And that's the name of the book, No Easy Day, the autobiography of a Navy SEAL, Mark Owen,

00:06:23.940 the firsthand account of the mission that killed Osama bin Laden.

00:06:27.140 The book and stand for itself.

00:06:29.400 You're in disguise as we do this interview today, and I wonder why.

00:06:32.880 The focus shouldn't be on me.

00:06:34.080 The focus should be on the book.

00:06:35.160 I'm not trying to be special or a hero or anything.

00:06:38.720 I'm just trying to tell the bigger story.

00:06:40.740 But you're in disguise also for your own security.

00:06:43.520 Yeah, absolutely.

00:06:44.360 Tell me about that.

00:06:45.360 What concerns you?

00:06:46.640 Yeah.

00:06:47.060 Yeah.

00:06:47.380 So just so y'all know, this is what concerns him right here.

00:06:50.160 Okay.

00:06:50.380 So this is the book, right?

00:06:52.780 And, you know, ended up doing really well with sales.

00:06:56.000 But the issue here is that he actually got sued by the U.S. government, guys.

00:07:01.400 They actually pursued criminal charges against him as well.

00:07:03.460 So he ended up getting sued and having to pay out something like $1.8 million in a lawsuit on top of another $160,000 or $180,000 in consulting and other fees that he had earned from all the speeches and stuff that he gave for the book.

00:07:22.600 Let's see here if I can find the exact figure for you guys.

00:07:26.620 Yeah, because he didn't get it clear through the Pentagon before he published it, which was obviously an issue because he had he they signed.

00:07:35.680 Let's see here.

00:07:37.200 According to DOD, Owen had signed a classified information nondisclosure and a 2007 sensitive compartmentalized information SCI nondisclosure statement that requires pre-publication security review under certain circumstances.

00:07:47.460 Right.

00:07:47.880 So, you know, that was a big L for him on that one.

00:07:52.120 OK.

00:07:55.060 In November 2014, Owen sued his lawyer.

00:07:57.280 Oh, no.

00:07:58.680 Let's see here.

00:07:59.960 It was revealed recruited Owens in this video game company.

00:08:05.240 I'm trying to put here how much money he lost.

00:08:07.820 OK, in August 2016, Owen said a lawsuit and agreed to pay back his royalties of U.S.

00:08:12.820 6.8 million to the U.S.

00:08:14.660 government.

00:08:15.580 Holy bro. 1.00

00:08:16.600 God damn. 1.00

00:08:17.240 That's another one right there, man. 0.99

00:08:20.640 But I say all that to say this for you guys.

00:08:23.460 The reason why this is extremely relevant is because the fact that the U.S.

00:08:27.360 government wanted so much money from him.

00:08:29.840 OK, and the fact that he got sued into the ground proves that what he's about to tell you guys is extremely factual and accurate.

00:08:37.820 So typically, Garmin ain't going to sue you like that unless what you're saying is 1000% true.

00:08:43.020 So let's get back in an interview.

00:08:44.300 Good for us.

00:08:44.760 Bad for him.

00:08:46.200 The enemy has a long memory.

00:08:49.480 And so we spent a long time.

00:08:51.740 Yeah.

00:08:51.940 So he's more, you know, he's saying you scared of the enemy.

00:08:54.500 But the reality is he was more scared about being sued.

00:08:56.580 That's that's what I read from this.

00:08:57.920 But let's go.

00:08:59.360 Why was your squadron chosen for this particular mission?

00:09:02.780 Was there something special about you?

00:09:04.320 No, no.

00:09:05.280 Certainly nothing special about me.

00:09:06.920 Nothing special about the 24 guys that were chosen.

00:09:09.720 Nothing special about our squadron.

00:09:12.060 It really could have been any number of guys.

00:09:14.980 You just happen to be.

00:09:16.280 Well, they also happen to be one of the most elite units in military in the U.S. military, which is the strongest military in the world.

00:09:22.180 But that's no big deal.

00:09:23.960 Available.

00:09:24.440 Humble guy.

00:09:25.880 For training.

00:09:26.760 Yes.

00:09:27.060 In April 2011, they had just returned from Afghanistan when they were told to report to North Carolina for an exercise.

00:09:35.980 Give me the lay of the land here.

00:09:37.220 What do we see?

00:09:38.400 Owen walked into a top secret briefing room, saw a model of a compound and heard this from his buddies.

00:09:45.480 And when you deal with stuff like this, guys, anything that SEAL Team 6 is going to deal with, 9 out of 10 times, it's going to be classified.

00:09:53.900 It's going to be SCI level, which is why he got in so much trouble, because he signed nondisclosure agreements when he was in the military.

00:10:02.620 So, yeah, already it's going to be a classified briefing room.

00:10:07.140 No one else is going to really know what the hell is going on.

00:10:09.020 Just a few people.

00:10:10.420 And, I mean, hell, guys, even people at the White House didn't know about this mission.

00:10:14.320 I mean, even Michelle Obama didn't know at the time.

00:10:16.380 And this happened on 11 when President Obama was in office.

00:10:19.520 So that just goes to show how few people actually knew about this operation.

00:10:23.560 What did they say?

00:10:24.600 They said, hey, we found bin Laden.

00:10:26.220 Or we think we found bin Laden.

00:10:27.380 And they want us to come up, you know, rehearse and come up with a plan.

00:10:32.600 If there's going to be a ground option approved, they want us to rehearse for one.

00:10:36.860 What did you think?

00:10:38.600 Awesome.

00:10:40.160 The mission was Operation Neptune Spear under the authority of the CIA.

00:10:45.220 The agency had tracked a bin Laden courier to a curious compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

00:10:52.880 They'd been watching the comment.

00:10:54.060 If you guys want more detail on that, watch the past episode, part two of the 9-11 series where I broke down how the CIA was able to, through a lot of waterboarding, go ahead and identify this courier and how this courier tracked them back to – they tracked the courier back to bin Laden.

00:11:14.280 ...pound with satellites.

00:11:16.100 The house seemed too big for the neighborhood.

00:11:18.760 There was no telephone connection.

00:11:21.440 The people there burned their trash.

00:11:24.060 There was a wall 12 feet high and a walled-in balcony.

00:11:29.580 Who lived up there?

00:11:31.720 They briefed us on the individual they were calling the Pacer.

00:11:34.560 The Pacer.

00:11:35.260 The Pacer.

00:11:35.860 So he would come out of the house and kind of walk around the yard to what was assessed to just be getting exercise.

00:11:42.400 Where did the Pacer pace?

00:11:44.640 Over here.

00:11:45.740 In this courtyard back here.

00:11:47.300 Mind you, the CIA was watching him pretty much on drones and satellite, guys.

00:11:51.340 Right.

00:11:52.400 So he just kind of walk out in here.

00:11:54.720 And a lot of the vegetation out here was probably purposely planted.

00:11:58.540 So surveillance couldn't see down on him.

00:12:01.440 And he would just go round and round and round?

00:12:03.480 Yep.

00:12:04.100 He'd walk around the yard.

00:12:05.420 Sometimes he'd walk with the SS to be a female.

00:12:08.140 They'd just walk around the yard.

00:12:09.200 They'd never stop to help anybody do any work.

00:12:11.360 If there was other people in the yard working, he never seemed to do any of that.

00:12:15.020 It's above.

00:12:15.500 Which, by the way, guys, his name was his real.

00:12:17.300 He wrote under the pen name Mark Owen.

00:12:20.200 But his real name is Matt Bissonette.

00:12:22.640 That's his real name, obviously, because when they sued him, they had to get his real name.

00:12:26.220 And obviously, all that stuff was public.

00:12:27.640 So almost above it.

00:12:29.640 Above doing the manual labor.

00:12:31.400 He was the boss, whoever he was.

00:12:33.500 Correct.

00:12:33.840 The PACER had been in Abbottabad about five years.

00:12:38.800 It's a well-to-do city of one million people.

00:12:41.820 The compound was about a mile from the Pakistani military academy.

00:12:47.300 In terms of the inside of the house, how much did you know?

00:12:50.900 Zero.

00:12:52.580 Zero.

00:12:53.560 So once you went through the door, you didn't know what you were going to be facing.

00:12:56.820 Right.

00:12:57.780 But again, it goes back to that years of experience.

00:13:00.360 We've done this a million times.

00:13:02.120 Raids like this were common many nights in Afghanistan and Iraq.

00:13:07.480 And looking at the model, the SEALs didn't think of this as particularly challenging.

00:13:11.900 The tricky part was getting there.

00:13:15.220 The U.S. wasn't telling Pakistan so the helicopters could be shot down by Pakistan's modern air defenses.

00:13:22.180 So, guys, just to let you guys know how crazy this is, the fact that Pakistan didn't know, which I'm a little skeptical of that.

00:13:33.000 I have an idea that I think Pakistan did know to a degree, but they had to keep a certain image so that they don't mess with geopolitical affiliations and everything else like that.

00:13:42.320 But the fact that, you know, allegedly they didn't have to they didn't notify them.

00:13:48.800 Well, that's crazy.

00:13:49.600 And they can easily get shot down by anti-air defense, which because, you know, Pakistan, if I'm not mistaken, has nuclear weapons, guys. 0.98

00:13:58.080 So it's not like they're like a military weak power. 0.97

00:14:01.340 You know, this isn't like Afghanistan or some shit. 0.99

00:14:03.180 It's Pakistan. 0.98

00:14:04.300 So totally different countries, totally different militaries, totally different cultures, et cetera.

00:14:10.460 So so that's a fly in a low to the ground, guys.

00:14:15.680 The pilots were from the Army's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment.

00:14:20.580 Two modified Blackhawks, call signs Chalk 1 and Chalk 2, would drop 24 SEALs and a Belgian Malinois combat dog named Cairo.

00:14:32.540 Chalk 1, which is the one I was on, was going to hover over the compound here.

00:14:37.480 We would drop the two fast ropes, slide down the ropes into the courtyard here and then go about our business.

00:14:42.740 Well, Chalk 2 would land out here, just over here by the road, drop the external containment team off. 0.94

00:14:51.640 They would provide security external.

00:14:53.640 We'd have two men and our combat assault dog would do a quick patrol the perimeter down to the south and around to make sure that there was no tunnels underneath the walls.

00:15:05.180 If somebody did hear us coming and had time to escape.

00:15:07.440 So you guys can see here, man, they're really planning and making sure that they have their ducks in a row.

00:15:11.300 So, because this is a pretty dangerous mission, man.

00:15:13.320 So they got to really, you know, make sure that the T's are crossed and the I's are dotted.

00:15:17.800 And on top of that, you guys got to remember, this is probably, you know, TSSCI level type information.

00:15:22.720 I mean, probably higher than that.

00:15:23.840 White House, damn near Yankee White clearance, right? 0.61

00:15:27.080 Which is typically only White House officials and people that really got to need to know, know this type of information. 0.64

00:15:32.840 So, yeah.

00:15:34.780 After dropping those guys off, the second heel was going to come up, hover over the third floor,

00:15:40.040 drop off the remaining guys.

00:15:42.280 They would then hop right down into the balcony, assaulting from the top down.

00:15:46.380 And our guys would assault from the bottom up.

00:15:48.760 A few days after getting the mission, they had their plan.

00:15:52.100 And so began weeks of rehearsals on a full-size version of the compound built in North Carolina.

00:15:59.380 How many times did you assault it?

00:16:01.140 How many times did you train on it?

00:16:02.540 A lot.

00:16:04.220 Between when we got the mission and when we left for Afghanistan, we probably, you know, good, probably good 100 times.

00:16:11.060 So, and guys, let me, because I had similar training to this, right, when I was at FLETC, right, Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.

00:16:17.800 So what they'll do is, right, they'll have raid houses, right?

00:16:20.900 And when they have the raid houses, the inside, they can push certain walls down, push certain walls up.

00:16:25.360 And what that does is it gives you a different training stimuli, and they put different role players, as they would say, in that raid house so that they can go ahead and attack you in different ways.

00:16:34.980 And pretty much what they're doing when they're hitting the house 100 plus times is they're coming up with different scenarios.

00:16:40.480 Maybe there's a guy in a doorway shooting at them immediately.

00:16:42.460 Maybe there's a guy with a roof on shooting down on them immediately.

00:16:45.280 Maybe there's a situation where a door is locked.

00:16:47.860 How can they breach into the compound if a door is messed up?

00:16:51.120 So they're literally training, guys, for hundreds, if not thousands, of different scenarios that could occur during the raid.

00:16:59.220 So they're training that muscle to be ready to go, you know, no matter what happens or whatever pops up, which this training ended up serving them very well, guys, because you guys are going to see.

00:17:08.820 They get hit with a crazy situation when they go ahead and embark on the compound.

00:17:16.800 How unusual was this kind of training?

00:17:19.300 Yeah, very unusual.

00:17:20.420 I've never I've never had all the mockups.

00:17:22.820 I've never rehearsed for something for three weeks.

00:17:26.080 One rehearsal had an audience.

00:17:28.200 The nation's highest ranking officer, Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the head of special operations, Admiral Eric Olson.

00:17:36.740 Holy.

00:17:37.460 Yeah, that's you got the top dog watching you train.

00:17:41.380 Yeah, that's going to put a little bit of motivation on you.

00:17:43.900 And observers from the White House.

00:17:46.660 One of the things that I liked after the fact was I remember Admiral Mullen coming by and talking to each one of us and then Admiral Olson as well.

00:17:54.180 And I thought that was that was cool that, you know, they they walked by, shook each of our hands and said, hey, are you guys ready?

00:18:00.120 Can you guys pull this off?

00:18:01.120 And I'm pretty sure to a man.

00:18:04.040 We all said, yes, absolutely.

00:18:05.780 Yeah.

00:18:05.900 Imagine, guys, like you trained your whole life for this.

00:18:08.380 You went through the military.

00:18:09.360 You're in the most elite unit and you got the top brass, damn near people at the presidential level coming up to you, shaking your hand and saying, are you ready for this?

00:18:18.620 Yo, that's got to hype you up to another level.

00:18:20.820 You're about to go after the most wanted man in the world, the most wanted terrorist in the world, you know, behind the 9-11 attacks.

00:18:27.300 I know you conspiracy.

00:18:29.480 Don't worry.

00:18:29.980 We're going to cover the conspiracy episode on the next pod, guys.

00:18:33.860 Don't worry.

00:18:34.320 Take it easy. 1.00

00:18:35.660 But, yeah, you're thinking like, holy shit, I am fucking psyched. 0.99

00:18:39.840 I'm ready. 0.99

00:18:40.300 So that's got to hype you up.

00:18:42.220 The team got several days off at home around Easter.

00:18:45.500 Then in late April, about a month after they got the mission, they loaded on a plane bound for a U.S. base in Afghanistan.

00:18:52.940 The president wasn't convinced yet.

00:18:55.700 No one confirmed that bin Laden was the pacer.

00:18:59.080 So SEAL Team 6 was on standby.

00:19:01.200 One of the passengers on their plane was a CIA analyst who had spent five years on bin Laden's trail.

00:19:09.840 I can't give her enough credit.

00:19:11.640 I mean, she, in my opinion, she kind of teed up this whole thing and is just, you know, wicked smart, kind of feisty. 0.99

00:19:20.600 And she was, you know, we'd always talk back and forth.

00:19:25.520 Hey, you know, what do you think the odds of this are?

00:19:27.340 What do you think the odds of that are?

00:19:28.720 You know, hey, you know, what do you think?

00:19:32.600 You think he's there?

00:19:33.120 She's like, 100%.

00:19:33.940 100% he's there.

00:19:35.120 And you thought what?

00:19:36.780 Well, we'll see.

00:19:37.560 Three days later, on April 30th, the president was telling jokes at the annual White House Correspondents' Dinner.

00:19:45.540 CIA Director Leon Panetta's belly laugh was heard all across the room.

00:19:50.400 Reporters in ballgowns and tuxedos had no idea that just a few hours before, President Obama had ordered Panetta to launch the raid.

00:19:59.620 Mr. Obama kept to his schedule, thinking that on this night, it was better to have reporters drinking and laughing than asking questions.

00:20:09.580 When did you first hear that?

00:20:12.280 And just so you guys know, the woman that they're more than likely referring to is this woman right here.

00:20:16.220 And we covered her, guys, in the last podcast for the CIA, Neda Bakos.

00:20:21.040 She was very important in finding bin Laden. 1.00

00:20:23.960 See, here we go.

00:20:24.900 2013 HBO documentary, Manhunt, The Search for Bin Laden.

00:20:27.480 And I covered this on the last podcast.

00:20:30.360 So go ahead, if you guys want to go ahead and get some more information on her and the entire CIA team that actually was responsible for tracking down bin Laden.

00:20:39.040 It was a whole team of them, guys.

00:20:40.780 And, you know, I will say this on behalf of the CIA. 0.96

00:20:43.880 They had been warning President Clinton back in the fucking 90s about bin Laden, guys, and they didn't take action. 0.83

00:20:50.280 And they even warned about imminent attacks in 2001 and that they still didn't take action. 0.94

00:20:56.640 And so the CIA definitely had bin Laden on their radar and they were warning, you know, the higher ups over at the White House.

00:21:03.640 But they just didn't take it serious until it was too late.

00:21:05.840 President had approved your mission.

00:21:08.120 The commanding officer of our command walked in and said, hey, just got off the phone.

00:21:11.940 The mission's approved.

00:21:13.260 What did you think?

00:21:15.420 This is this is big.

00:21:16.900 This is cool.

00:21:17.680 I'm glad I'm a part of it.

00:21:18.700 The raid was supposed to be April 30th, but the weather was bad.

00:21:24.120 The next night, Vice Admiral William McRaven saw the men off.

00:21:28.680 He was a SEAL and he had planned the mission as head of the Joint Special Operations Command.

00:21:34.340 Just before midnight, the Blackhawks started the sprint from the U.S. base in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, to Abbottabad, about 150 miles away.

00:21:43.740 The helicopters were blacked out against a clear, moonless night.

00:21:48.360 The Army pilots, guided by night vision goggles, flew high speed, treetop level, under Pakistani radar.

00:21:55.620 So just so you guys know, flying damn near tree level, that's dangerous.

00:22:00.580 It's like they're right there, guys.

00:22:01.980 Like if one little error and they're hitting the trees and they're crashing, OK, and there could be some serious injuries and or death in that situation.

00:22:08.980 So obviously they had some of the top pilots manning those helicopters.

00:22:13.340 But, yeah, that's got to be scary.

00:22:14.900 And then also I want to show you guys this real quick, too.

00:22:16.920 So right here, OK, it says here that so Steve Cole confirms that as of 2019, no direct evidence showing Pakistani knowledge of bin Laden's presence in Abbottabad has been found and that captured documents from the Abbottabad compound suggests bin Laden was wary of contact with Pakistani intelligence and police,

00:22:35.500 especially in light of Pakistan's role in the arrest of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a.k.a. KSM, which, again, if you guys have been watching.

00:22:43.220 Oh, my bad. Let me let me show you guys this real fast.

00:22:48.580 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was pretty much the number two guy.

00:22:51.100 He was the one that planned the 9-11 attacks. 0.96

00:22:53.640 He was like the mastermind behind them.

00:22:55.660 All right.

00:22:56.440 And his nephew was Ramzi Yousef, guys, who did what?

00:23:00.980 He was the one that went ahead and planned the 1993 World Trade Center bombings.

00:23:05.780 And again, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but, guys, it's really important that you go ahead and go over to Fed it.

00:23:11.740 Right.

00:23:12.400 And I want you guys Ted Bunny episode, by the way, posted that earlier.

00:23:16.980 I want you guys to go ahead and watch this episode.

00:23:20.340 Most want Osama bin Laden and then also cover this one. 0.80

00:23:23.400 9-11.

00:23:24.220 How the FBI saw this.

00:23:25.080 So this is part one.

00:23:25.780 This is part two.

00:23:26.300 And then if you guys want a bonus, watch this right here.

00:23:29.280 The 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

00:23:31.680 OK.

00:23:32.400 And this covers the failed World Trade Center bombing, pretty much the Recuriter 93 that was orchestrated by Ramzi Yousef. 0.95

00:23:39.500 And then here is his uncle, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, KSM.

00:23:42.080 And this guy got waterboarded to hell.

00:23:43.860 He's still alive.

00:23:44.420 I think he's down there in Guantanamo Bay.

00:23:46.480 But I cover KSM extensively in the last episode and in the FBI episode with the first 9-11 thing.

00:23:54.120 So this all ties in together, guys.

00:23:56.100 You want this to make sense.

00:23:57.760 But, yes, that is why bin Laden didn't trust the Pakistani government because the Pakistani government was critical to the U.S. capturing KSM,

00:24:10.220 who ended up giving up information that led to other members of al-Qaeda getting killed and or captured.

00:24:17.080 It was roughly an hour and a half.

00:24:18.840 I remember, you know, we took off, shut the doors, and the radio call I heard was, you know, hey, we're over the border.

00:24:27.520 We're crossing the border into Pakistan.

00:24:29.280 And I remember thinking, wow, this is OK.

00:24:31.740 This is happening.

00:24:32.420 And I swear, I glanced around the helicopter, and half the guys were sitting there asleep on the right end.

00:24:39.020 It was an hour and a half ride.

00:24:40.160 Guys got to catch a few Zs on the way in. 1.00

00:24:42.420 Wait a minute.

00:24:43.080 Your team is flying in to Osama bin Laden's compound, and they're asleep?

00:24:50.600 Yeah, no.

00:24:51.140 It's your time to just kind of shut your eyes, relax, you know, mentally walk through whatever you need to walk through.

00:24:57.400 It was about 1 o'clock in the morning, 66 degrees, 65.

00:25:02.480 That goes to show you guys how well-trained these guys are.

00:25:04.420 They could go ahead and take a nap right before probably embarking on one of the most important missions of their military careers.

00:25:11.860 5% humidity with calm winds.

00:25:15.260 At one minute, we opened the door, and I just kind of swung my legs out, and I'm sitting there looking down.

00:25:20.160 I'm thinking, wow, you know, this is a beautiful spot.

00:25:23.880 A lot of houses with pools in the backyard, well-lit, manicured yards.

00:25:29.720 Like, well, this is definitely not, you know, the mud huts of Afghanistan.

00:25:33.440 Somehow, there was a blackout in the neighborhood.

00:25:37.060 No one will say whether that was luck or design, but it meant ideal darkness for the Seals.

00:25:43.340 Probably by design, but it's probably still classified, so they can't say anything.

00:25:50.900 Night vision goggles.

00:25:52.380 You could see the compound coming.

00:25:54.260 You had the door to the Blackhawk open, and your legs were swung outside.

00:25:59.700 Right.

00:26:00.280 Make a little more room, be faster, you know, quicker for everybody to get out and fast rope out of the helicopter,

00:26:05.180 so everybody's getting ready to fast rope.

00:26:07.460 And then all of a sudden, we bank hard 90 degrees.

00:26:10.700 Once we went hard 90, it was very apparent that something was wrong.

00:26:15.620 Owen doesn't know what went wrong, but pilots say that a chopper can lose lift

00:26:20.380 when it drops into the turbulence of its own downdraft.

00:26:23.940 And the turbulence would have been much worse,

00:26:26.280 because the downdraft was being magnified and reflected by the compound's walls. 1.00

00:26:32.120 Ah, shit. 1.00

00:26:33.040 That is definitely not good. 1.00

00:26:35.780 Let's see how they dealt with it.

00:26:36.840 These pilots are the best in the world.

00:26:39.160 You don't get better than these guys.

00:26:40.860 And typically, they just, boom, they move right in, and they stick it.

00:26:44.180 It's like parking a car for these guys.

00:26:46.440 And it was a rough ride.

00:26:50.660 We were pretty low.

00:26:52.420 Tail rotor and everything happened to miss this wall here.

00:26:55.280 And then we were just kind of sliding and falling out of the sky this way.

00:26:58.640 I was now in the front of the helicopter.

00:27:00.540 Although I was sitting on the left side, I was now in the front.

00:27:03.560 My buddy right behind me, he...

00:27:05.160 Pretty much should have fallen out.

00:27:08.040 If it weren't for him hanging on to me, there's a good chance I would have been thrown from the helicopter.

00:27:12.120 As the helicopter is going down, what were you thinking? 0.98

00:27:16.360 This is going to suck. 0.97

00:27:17.760 You know? 0.99

00:27:18.140 Hey, wow.

00:27:18.720 Not to mention, guys, also, the fact that they're creating quite a bit of noise, okay?

00:27:25.460 You're supposed to come in kind of stealthy. 0.92

00:27:27.740 Next thing you know, it's like fucking pretty much doing a Don DeMarco playing during a robbery, right? 0.98

00:27:32.640 It's like, what the hell's going on here? 1.00

00:27:34.080 So, you know, already, Bilal and his people are like, oh, shit. 1.00

00:27:37.860 The day has come. 0.99

00:27:38.680 You know what I mean?

00:27:39.200 The Americans are here.

00:27:40.140 So, they're gearing up, too, ready to go.

00:27:43.640 These guys are crashing helicopters.

00:27:47.820 Oh, my God.

00:27:49.820 Oh, man.

00:27:50.820 Okay.

00:27:51.380 Let's keep going.

00:27:51.800 The carefully rehearsed plan was out the window before the first boot hit the ground.

00:27:56.920 With one helicopter and half of the SEALs having crashed, the second helicopter abandoned the roof assault as too risky, and the SEALs began to improvise.

00:28:07.340 One thing was sure now.

00:28:09.060 The people in the house knew they were coming.

00:28:17.480 All right.

00:28:17.960 The pilot had mentioned, you know, I remember him mentioning in the rehearsals, he's like, you know, if I have to ditch this thing, I'm going to try and put it down in this courtyard.

00:28:45.240 So, that's exactly what he did.

00:28:46.920 You could tell, you could hear the helicopter winding up.

00:28:49.280 He was putting all the power on it.

00:28:50.620 He could, but it wasn't helping.

00:28:52.020 No, nothing.

00:28:53.100 Came in and impacted.

00:28:54.460 Boom.

00:28:55.800 Had the angle been more, the rotors would have hit the ground, snapped off, and caused us to roll.

00:29:00.420 Had the tail rotor hit, obviously would have broke and caused us to break and roll.

00:29:04.280 The load-bearing section of the tail landed precisely on the wall.

00:29:08.460 The strongest part of the tail just happened to land on the wall.

00:29:11.620 Yep.

00:29:12.300 And the angle happened to be perfect.

00:29:14.200 It all came down to inches.

00:29:16.380 Really.

00:29:16.920 Inches either way.

00:29:17.940 We stopped.

00:29:18.720 The main rotor blades are still turning.

00:29:20.660 I don't think you could recreate that if you tried.

00:29:22.940 Lucky.

00:29:24.400 Lucky.

00:29:25.120 But again.

00:29:26.340 Sucky situation, but the best of a sucky situation.

00:29:30.240 Huge props to these pilots.

00:29:32.020 I mean, everybody wants to meet the guy who shot Menlon.

00:29:35.020 I want to meet the pilot.

00:29:37.460 I mean, I wouldn't be here for more for him.

00:29:39.260 If the pilot had not brought your helicopter down intact, would the mission have failed?

00:29:45.040 No, I don't think so.

00:29:46.840 Because Chalk 2 was on the ground.

00:29:49.600 And as soon as they saw us crash land, that Chalk 2 helicopter pilot saw that happen, decided not to push the position to go to the roof. 0.91

00:29:58.220 And that's one thing that Admiral McRaven said in one of our very last rehearsals, briefs, dry runs right there in Afghanistan.

00:30:05.400 Before we launched, he stood up and he said, hey, listen, don't try any fancy stuff.

00:30:09.340 Just get the guys on the ground and they'll figure it out.

00:30:12.420 You mentioned in the book that one.

00:30:14.940 And that's what happens when you have operatives that are this skilled guys.

00:30:17.380 Like you can really put them in almost any situation and they're going to find a way to make it happen.

00:30:22.480 You know what I mean? 0.96

00:30:22.960 And even with a horrible situation like this, they were able to improvise and make shit happen. 0.82

00:30:29.500 The Army pilots that was flying your team looked to you to be about 50 years old. 0.96

00:30:34.600 He was definitely a little older.

00:30:35.940 But I guess in this line of work, it's experience that matters.

00:30:39.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:40.060 He's probably been flying longer than I've been alive.

00:30:41.800 So there's nothing wrong with that.

00:30:44.400 They had planned to be on the ground 30 minutes, but now they were running late.

00:30:48.740 Owen's team landed in this courtyard, walled off from the house.

00:30:52.960 So your team does what?

00:30:54.640 I ran out here.

00:30:55.740 I turned around and looked and I see the guys on the left side of the helicopter.

00:30:59.240 They're sitting right at them, staring at the front door.

00:31:01.400 So they simply hop out and go right to the front door like nothing happened.

00:31:05.040 Go right to this door here.

00:31:06.680 Yep.

00:31:07.080 The other helicopter landed outside the perimeter wall, dropped all of its seals and took off.

00:31:14.080 Now, what's your objective?

00:31:15.500 What's your team supposed to do right now?

00:31:17.640 We're clearing and securing the southern compound.

00:31:19.540 You expect to find people in this building and you...

00:31:22.660 And when they say clear, guys, what that basically means is, you know, making sure that there's

00:31:26.880 no other threats and or humans, right?

00:31:30.000 Clear, secure, then you move on.

00:31:31.820 That's just how it goes.

00:31:32.820 Room by room, systematically, clear the area, clear, continue to push on.

00:31:37.400 Okay.

00:31:37.580 And you don't push on until it's clear because you want to make sure that your six is covered

00:31:40.880 at all times.

00:31:41.680 So that's what they're saying.

00:31:42.700 That's what he means when he says clear, secure, clear, secure.

00:31:45.740 You want to clear that building so the rest of the team can do what they need to do in

00:31:50.380 here.

00:31:50.760 Exactly.

00:31:51.520 I think what seals are good at is what I consider pickup basketball.

00:31:55.060 We all know how to play the game.

00:31:56.760 You know, you hear the saying in the teams is, can you shoot, move and communicate?

00:32:01.020 So we all know how to shoot.

00:32:02.340 We all know how to move efficiently and tactically.

00:32:05.040 And we can communicate clearly.

00:32:06.580 So, and that right there, my friends is why they're the most elite unit in the world.

00:32:12.040 And the fact that the, um, you know, the president and, you know, the admiral sent them

00:32:16.560 in, they're sending the best and brightest in there.

00:32:19.000 Right.

00:32:19.200 So even though with the helicopter crash and everything else coming down, they're able

00:32:22.700 to adapt to the situation.

00:32:23.820 They've been a worse situation.

00:32:24.940 That's why, you know, budge training is so hard, right?

00:32:28.040 So that when you actually do get the job or you do get the mission, guess what? 0.92

00:32:31.600 It's fucking easy. 0.96

00:32:32.800 All right. 0.99

00:32:33.240 That's what you train for.

00:32:34.100 You train so that when you actually do the real thing, it comes off as easy.

00:32:39.000 When something goes sideways, we're able to play that pickup basketball and just kind

00:32:43.520 of read off each other.

00:32:44.700 Now the seals were in several groups.

00:32:47.280 One group was outside the perimeter wall to make sure no one escaped.

00:32:51.920 The group that was supposed to rope to the roof was outside the wall looking for a way

00:32:56.540 in.

00:32:57.480 Owen led his team to the outer building where they expected to find one of bin Laden's 0.98

00:33:02.700 couriers.

00:33:03.180 We got to the door.

00:33:04.760 Obviously, we made tons of noise at this point.

00:33:07.280 It had taken a little longer to get there.

00:33:09.620 So, you know, the element of surprise is slipping away quickly.

00:33:13.280 We got to the double doors.

00:33:15.680 Oh, you mean it's gone, my friend.

00:33:17.660 Yay! 0.99

00:33:18.420 I tried it once real quick.

00:33:19.820 It was locked.

00:33:21.040 My buddy who was with me is carrying a sledgehammer.

00:33:23.400 Pulls it out.

00:33:24.060 Gives it a couple good swings.

00:33:25.500 Nothing.

00:33:25.920 Door's not going anywhere.

00:33:26.960 Kind of solid metal.

00:33:27.760 So, I'm like, okay, we're going explosive.

00:33:31.820 We all carry explosive chargers.

00:33:33.440 I pulled one off.

00:33:35.020 Got on my knee and started setting it.

00:33:37.580 And right as I was attaching it, a round started coming through the door at us.

00:33:40.820 Somebody who started. 0.99

00:33:41.400 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:33:42.860 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:33:43.620 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:33:44.560 So, they're starting to get shot at now. 1.00

00:33:46.020 So, they're compromised, guys.

00:33:47.680 They're shooting at you from inside the house and the bullets were coming through the door.

00:33:51.200 Yep.

00:33:51.380 So, immediately, my buddy who was standing up started returning fire.

00:33:56.300 I could, yeah, I kind of rolled away from the door.

00:33:59.400 Blindly returned fire back through.

00:34:01.000 You couldn't see what was on the other side.

00:34:02.700 And then it went quiet.

00:34:04.920 Thankfully, the seal that was there with me initially returned fire with me.

00:34:08.480 He spoke Arabic.

00:34:09.160 So, he immediately started calling out to the people inside.

00:34:11.880 Started hearing the metal latch on the inside of the door.

00:34:14.940 For some of you guys that might have not saw the pod before, Bin Laden and his family are Saudis.

00:34:19.740 Okay.

00:34:20.000 With Yemeni background.

00:34:22.560 But, either way, their language is Arabic.

00:34:24.900 So, they're not Pakistani. 0.79

00:34:26.660 They're not Afghani.

00:34:27.640 Which, they speak different languages.

00:34:29.580 But, they're Arabs.

00:34:30.760 Okay.

00:34:30.940 They're from Saudi Arabia.

00:34:31.840 So, to have a seal there that speaks Arabic is huge.

00:34:37.080 Are they going to come out with a suicide vest?

00:34:39.160 Are they going to throw a hand grenade out? 0.83

00:34:40.400 Are they going to, you know, spray their AK?

00:34:42.960 Door opens up.

00:34:44.300 A female holding a kid.

00:34:46.060 A couple kids right behind her.

00:34:47.480 You got your finger on your trigger.

00:34:49.100 And, you're looking at a woman with her children.

00:34:52.460 Yeah.

00:34:52.840 Yeah.

00:34:53.080 Split second. 0.96

00:34:53.780 I mean, we just received fire.

00:34:56.520 My buddy speaking Arabic.

00:34:57.700 And, guys, you know, obviously, you know, 2020 highs on him talking back about it.

00:35:02.780 That's one thing.

00:35:03.320 But, man, when you're in the moment like that and, you know, you got a gun to people, which I've been in that situation before.

00:35:09.220 And, you don't know if you got a bullet.

00:35:10.300 It's a nerve-wracking moment, guys.

00:35:12.080 And, I can only imagine it's even heightened to another level because you already know you're going into enemy territory where there's more than likely going to be a gunfight.

00:35:19.080 Probably not going to go ahead and surrender willingly. 0.93

00:35:21.660 These guys are terrorists. 0.64

00:35:22.480 You're in a foreign country. 1.00

00:35:23.460 They're shooting at you.

00:35:25.020 Yeah.

00:35:26.160 It's different, guys.

00:35:28.120 It's way different.

00:35:30.380 He's asking her, you know, hey, where's your husband?

00:35:33.180 What's going on?

00:35:34.260 And, she replies back to him.

00:35:35.980 He's dead. 0.95

00:35:36.440 You shot him.

00:35:37.480 Which, keep in mind, guys, Bin Laden, you know, had multiple wives and his sons living with him on the compound.

00:35:44.760 Owen didn't notice until later, but he was bleeding.

00:35:48.020 A shoulder wound from a fragment of something in the firefight.

00:35:52.180 Yeah, I just got a little piece of frag in my shoulder from some of the rounds that came through.

00:35:55.980 It really wasn't a major wound at all.

00:35:59.320 But, I carry a set of bolt cutters to cut locks with.

00:36:02.760 When I got back, you know, I was checking my gears, any holes or anything, and I pull out the bolt cutters, and I've got the bullet stuck in the handle.

00:36:10.220 So, the bullet just missed me by a little bit.

00:36:12.860 The handle will stick up either side of my head. 0.99

00:36:14.600 Right by your neck.

00:36:16.520 But, you don't consider that to be a big deal?

00:36:19.140 No.

00:36:19.460 Plenty of other guys have suffered much, much, much worse.

00:36:23.260 So, it's not a big deal.

00:36:25.520 Nothing to end the office.

00:36:27.880 Within five minutes.

00:36:29.200 These guys are hardcore, man.

00:36:30.220 Owens' team cleared the outer house.

00:36:33.540 More SEALs entered the compound and converged on the first floor of the main building.

00:36:39.260 Inside, they found another courier with an assault rifle.

00:36:43.780 Those SEALs were in the process of shooting the second gunman.

00:36:46.640 Right.

00:36:47.500 And his wife jumped in front of him. 0.98

00:36:49.300 All the women on target were very hostile. 1.00

00:36:52.340 It's something very different than what we see in Afghanistan or Iraq.

00:36:54.980 You typically don't see the women that are this aggressive and hostile. 1.00

00:36:59.220 Even though the females had come out of this building and talked to us, they were still 1.00

00:37:04.220 very combative and aggressive.

00:37:06.060 So, and we saw that throughout the entire compound, even all the way up on the third floor.

00:37:10.140 They secured the ground floor and then the second floor.

00:37:13.500 The team continued to head up these stairs single file.

00:37:17.240 The first SEAL in line is called the Point Man.

00:37:20.400 Owen, at this point, was right behind him.

00:37:22.300 Number two, going up to the third floor.

00:37:25.440 The SEALs had been told they could expect one of Osama bin Laden's sons.

00:37:30.540 Guys start making their way up the stairs and it's quiet.

00:37:34.880 It's pitch black in the house.

00:37:36.460 No, no lights, all night vision.

00:37:38.640 Get to the second floor.

00:37:40.140 Intel had said, we think that Khalid, his son, lives on the second floor.

00:37:45.840 This is Osama bin Laden's son.

00:37:48.000 Yeah.

00:37:48.160 So, the guy in front of me, who's Point Man, he sees the head pop out and disappear really

00:37:53.140 quick around the corner.

00:37:55.340 It's like, okay, you know, what do you, who is it?

00:37:58.760 What do you think?

00:37:59.220 I don't know.

00:38:00.560 He literally whispers.

00:38:02.980 Not, not amped up, not yelling, not anything.

00:38:05.520 He whispered, Khalid, Khalid.

00:38:07.560 He whispers Khalid's name.

00:38:11.360 Doesn't know if it's Khalid or not.

00:38:13.440 Khalid literally looks back around the, around the edge of the, the hall and he shoots him.

00:38:18.980 What was Khalid thinking at that time?

00:38:20.600 Bam.

00:38:21.180 Got him.

00:38:22.960 Right upside the head, man.

00:38:25.540 Look around the corner.

00:38:26.960 You know, curiosity killed the cat.

00:38:29.800 I guess Khalid too.

00:38:30.980 It had been 15 minutes since the crash.

00:38:34.740 It was now about 1.15 a.m.

00:38:37.840 Give me a sense of what this scene is like in there.

00:38:41.400 I mean, are these guys yelling and charging up the stairs?

00:38:45.100 Is there a lot of action?

00:38:46.240 How's it unfolding?

00:38:47.620 You know, it's, it's not like the movies.

00:38:49.300 You know, movies make it out to be, you know, loud and crazy and everybody's yelling.

00:38:53.940 It's, this is what we do.

00:38:55.760 We're really good at it.

00:38:57.060 And so it's quiet, calm, like we've done it a million times before.

00:39:01.260 We have a saying, you know, don't, don't run to your death.

00:39:03.980 So nice and slow.

00:39:05.520 And we head up the stairs.

00:39:06.960 And just so you guys know, that's the best way to clear a house, man.

00:39:10.360 It used to be like police back in the day, used to call it dynamic entering where you'll walk into a house and you just like start hitting corners and go do it quickly.

00:39:17.500 No, that's not the way to go.

00:39:18.800 Now, special ops or any type of tactical team, they typically don't do dynamic anymore.

00:39:23.180 What they do is they do systematic clearing where you're slowly going in your goal.

00:39:26.720 You know, you're, you're checking corners.

00:39:28.020 You're making sure.

00:39:28.880 See, I'm getting back in my technical days back then.

00:39:30.980 Right.

00:39:31.780 This, this is what they do back then.

00:39:33.460 Okay.

00:39:33.860 So I'm looking here, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:36.420 We used to call them the tackle, the tackle berries.

00:39:38.560 Right.

00:39:39.440 At the, on the, on the, in the academy.

00:39:42.140 But either way, yeah, you're systematically clearing.

00:39:44.100 You're looking at corners because if you clear the corner, then you know that that, that's clear.

00:39:47.420 And then bam, that's clear.

00:39:48.380 And then, okay, the room's empty.

00:39:49.720 All right.

00:39:50.220 Boom.

00:39:50.460 Now I'm on to the next room and you just continue on clearing.

00:39:53.460 So that's how they're doing it.

00:39:54.860 Slow, nice, methodical.

00:39:56.540 Don't rush into your death.

00:39:57.580 That's, yeah, that's a hundred percent like, you know, higher level training right there,

00:40:00.560 my friends.

00:40:01.200 So, you know, I've done some tactical training myself as far as like clearing homes and everything

00:40:04.100 else like that, of course, with my background.

00:40:06.440 So speaking of my language.

00:40:09.600 Khalid is dead on this landing.

00:40:11.720 The point man is stepping past Khalid and now you're number two in the stack.

00:40:18.300 You're right behind the point man.

00:40:19.820 Yep.

00:40:20.460 I kind of try to look around him, hear him take a couple shots, kind of see a head.

00:40:25.520 Somebody disappeared back into the room.

00:40:27.120 The point man had seen someone stick his head out a door and shot him just the way he'd shot Khalid.

00:40:33.200 Yep.

00:40:33.960 What did you do then?

00:40:34.720 Inside the room, I could see a body laying on the ground over him was, was two females real 1.00

00:40:42.300 close to the door.

00:40:43.580 They looked up and saw the, saw the point man.

00:40:46.540 He steps in to the room, literally rushes the two women, grabs one under each arm and

00:40:53.020 pushes them back against the far wall.

00:40:54.980 So if they did have a suicide vest on and they did blow themselves up, that they wouldn't,

00:41:00.500 that that wouldn't affect the rest of the guys. 0.68

00:41:02.780 But it would have killed him.

00:41:03.580 Yeah.

00:41:05.800 Told you these guys are hardcore, man.

00:41:07.620 Best in the business, baby.

00:41:09.820 America.

00:41:10.740 You stepped into the room and saw the man lying on the floor.

00:41:14.300 What did you do?

00:41:16.040 Myself and the next assaulter in, we both engaged him several more times and then rolled off and

00:41:21.900 then continued clearing the room.

00:41:23.160 When you say you engaged him, what do you mean?

00:41:26.160 Fired. 0.95

00:41:27.160 You shot him. 0.59

00:41:28.080 Yeah.

00:41:28.340 That's what engaged means, my friend.

00:41:29.800 Yeah.

00:41:30.360 He's still moving. 1.00

00:41:31.200 Stupid. 1.00

00:41:31.520 A little bit, but you couldn't see his arms, couldn't see his hands. 1.00

00:41:35.240 So he could have had something, could have had a hand grenade or something underneath

00:41:38.280 his chest.

00:41:38.860 So after Osama bin Laden is wounded, he's still moving. 0.67

00:41:42.860 You shot him twice?

00:41:45.660 A handful of times.

00:41:46.780 A handful of times.

00:41:47.760 And the SEAL in the stack behind you also shot Osama bin Laden.

00:41:53.800 And at that point, his body was still.

00:41:55.640 Yes.

00:41:56.320 Did you recognize?

00:41:57.180 Now, this is kind of a point of contention here because the person that everyone thinks

00:42:02.020 killed bin Laden is this guy right here, Rob O'Neill.

00:42:04.920 Okay.

00:42:05.180 Robert J.

00:42:06.840 O'Neill is a former United States Navy SEAL TV news contributor and author after participating

00:42:10.700 in May 11th Operation Neptune Spear with SEAL Team 6.

00:42:13.520 O'Neill is a subject of controversy for claiming to be the sole individual to kill Osama bin Laden.

00:42:16.900 So yeah, he claimed that he shot him three times.

00:42:18.720 I think in his own words, he two tapped him, which means a double shot to the chest and then

00:42:23.440 he one tapped to the head was how he did it.

00:42:26.940 But, you know, obviously in this account of events, this guy is saying that he also was

00:42:33.760 involved in the shooting and killing.

00:42:35.800 And, you know, let's rewind it a little bit just to make sure we got that right.

00:42:38.820 But that's what it sounds like to me.

00:42:40.300 But everywhere else, I mean, so we don't really know if he did it by himself or he was involved

00:42:46.300 as well.

00:42:46.940 He couldn't see his arms, couldn't see his hands.

00:42:48.800 So he could have had something, could have had a hand grenade or something underneath his

00:42:52.160 chest.

00:42:52.460 So after Osama bin Laden is wounded, he's still moving. 0.67

00:42:55.880 You shot him twice, a handful of times, a handful of times.

00:43:01.360 And the seal in the stack behind you also shot Osama bin Laden.

00:43:07.240 And at that point, his body was still.

00:43:09.340 Yes.

00:43:09.900 Did you recognize him?

00:43:11.060 No.

00:43:12.480 You know, everybody thinks it was like, you know, it's him.

00:43:15.660 And we're going to get Rob O'Neill on the show as well, guys.

00:43:18.360 He's done a couple podcasts.

00:43:20.080 I think it's called the Operator Podcast, you know, shout out to him.

00:43:23.060 But we will definitely have him on the pod as well.

00:43:25.220 I'm just ironing that out for y'all for fresh and fit.

00:43:28.560 So stay tuned for that.

00:43:30.980 No.

00:43:31.640 To us at that time, it could have been...

00:43:33.260 You know, I'll ask him about this interview, actually, when we bring him on the show.

00:43:36.860 And anybody.

00:43:37.580 Maybe this is another brother.

00:43:38.600 Maybe this is a bodyguard.

00:43:39.620 Maybe.

00:43:40.000 It doesn't matter.

00:43:41.140 The point is, is to just continue clearing.

00:43:44.440 By now, 20 minutes.

00:43:46.200 Yeah, guys.

00:43:46.800 When you're in a house, a foreign house like that, your goal is to sit there like, I wonder 1.00

00:43:51.180 who this is. 0.99

00:43:51.660 It's like, no, you got to just keep clearing the goddamn house. 0.99

00:43:53.880 So I completely understand where he's coming from. 0.99

00:43:56.580 Past.

00:43:57.380 Every single thing that the woman with the CIA had told them on the plane had been right.

00:44:03.040 But time was running out.

00:44:04.780 Throughout the raid, the remaining helicopter was in the air.

00:44:07.720 It only had enough gas to stay for 30 minutes or so.

00:44:10.840 Pakistani neighbors had discovered the SEALs posted outside the compound wall, and it couldn't 0.99

00:44:17.120 be long before the Pakistani military would know they were there.

00:44:21.700 And that's not going to be good for foreign relations.

00:44:24.780 SEAL was charged with keeping an eye on his wristwatch and calling out the dwindling time

00:44:29.580 on the radio.

00:44:30.860 20 minutes.

00:44:32.020 15.

00:44:33.100 10.

00:44:34.120 We'll be right back.

00:44:35.380 All right. 0.99

00:44:38.820 Obviously, this is made for TV and TV's trash. 0.99

00:44:42.100 Got y'all, though. 0.99

00:44:43.520 And, you know, they were always gray.

00:44:45.860 His beard was was dark black.

00:44:48.440 Identifiably, he was very tall.

00:44:50.440 So, OK, you know, I can kind of.

00:44:51.880 Bin Laden was six foot four.

00:44:53.000 And then also, just so y'all know, Bin Laden spent quite. 0.64

00:44:55.160 He's referring to Bin Laden, by the way, when he's speaking.

00:44:58.020 Bin Laden dyed his beard often to not make himself look old, because which we're going to get

00:45:03.380 into it here and his hard drive.

00:45:05.660 He was always preparing to do speeches.

00:45:07.440 He always filmed a lot of speeches.

00:45:08.460 And he didn't like the appearance of of gray on his beard.

00:45:12.580 So that is why it was it was that way.

00:45:16.560 Chalked that up as something.

00:45:18.540 Bin Laden was about six foot four.

00:45:20.520 Right.

00:45:20.880 His nose to me was something that I could I could kind of identify.

00:45:24.600 So, you know, kind of looking at the profile shots.

00:45:27.080 Keep in mind, he had been shot in the head.

00:45:29.020 So it's a little bit harder to identify him.

00:45:30.720 You know what I'm saying?

00:45:31.260 I was like, OK, I was pretty sure that was him.

00:45:34.240 But, you know, I'm not willing to make that call.

00:45:37.500 Certainly not at that point.

00:45:39.700 Not willing because Owen says they suspected the president was listening at the White House

00:45:44.560 and he was right.

00:45:46.640 Yes, they were.

00:45:47.400 They were watching the whole thing live, guys. 1.00

00:45:50.020 Could you imagine that shit that you're watching a stream live of these dudes going in like on some video game type shit? 0.99

00:45:55.140 Helicopter crash had been reported up the chain of command. 0.99

00:45:58.640 Owen says the SEALs wanted proof before anyone said anything on the radio about killing Osama bin Laden.

00:46:05.660 They turned to one of the SEALs in the room who spoke Arabic.

00:46:10.040 So he moved out to where the women and kids were, grabs one of the younger kids, says, hey, who is that inside?

00:46:16.980 She says, Osama.

00:46:18.420 Osama who?

00:46:19.740 Osama bin Laden.

00:46:20.640 The child.

00:46:21.480 The child.

00:46:22.160 Identified him.

00:46:23.300 Grabbed one of the females, asked her again. 1.00

00:46:25.440 God damn, that's that's fucking cold blooded. 1.00

00:46:28.820 Yay! 1.00

00:46:29.740 Say, hey, who is that?

00:46:31.500 She said, Osama bin Laden.

00:46:33.080 So does a cheer go up among the SEALs?

00:46:35.640 You start shaking hands, patting each other on the back?

00:46:38.020 Nothing.

00:46:38.640 It's all business.

00:46:39.760 One o'clock. 0.93

00:46:40.280 Bro, what the hell do you? 0.96

00:46:42.760 Could you imagine?

00:46:43.980 Hey, yeah, we got him.

00:46:45.740 America. 1.00

00:46:46.620 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:46:47.520 You know, they start fucking cheering in there with the kids and the fucking mom there sobbing because he's dead on the floor. 1.00

00:46:52.700 Like, bro, come on, man. 1.00

00:46:54.380 This fucking guy, man. 1.00

00:46:57.600 Fuck here. 1.00

00:46:58.680 So we call up the commanding officer. 1.00

00:47:01.400 He comes upstairs.

00:47:02.660 Looks at the body.

00:47:03.600 We give him what we have so far.

00:47:04.920 Hey, here's what he looks like.

00:47:06.200 Take a look.

00:47:07.140 He's tall.

00:47:08.180 Women and kid confirm it. 0.98

00:47:09.420 He took one look.

00:47:10.440 Said, OK, I think that's him.

00:47:12.620 The commander used the code word for bin Laden, Geronimo, as he passed the message to Admiral McRaven.

00:47:19.200 For God and country, he said, I pass Geronimo, Geronimo, E-K-I-A, which stands for enemy killed in action.

00:47:30.460 When they round the 20 minutes had passed, 10 minutes left on the schedule.

00:47:35.480 We wanted to collect DNA samples.

00:47:38.600 We wanted to take photographs of them.

00:47:40.600 And then we want to duplicate copies of that.

00:47:43.020 So obviously we're taking the body out.

00:47:45.520 But if a helicopter got shot down on the way out and it had the body, we wanted the other helicopter to have DNA and photos.

00:47:52.520 So they have some sort of evidence that said, hey, we do have them.

00:47:55.600 And here it is.

00:47:56.140 You want to duplicate them.

00:47:57.340 Yeah.

00:47:57.560 So that's how the government operates, guys.

00:47:59.160 Two copies of everything. 0.99

00:48:00.320 God damn it. 0.99

00:48:00.760 That's how they do it everywhere in the government, whether it's, you know, a lowly worker working for TSA all the way up to the SEALs. 0.99

00:48:06.960 Doubles of everything, man.

00:48:09.560 And in this case, they had an actual real reason.

00:48:11.740 You know, obviously, their helicopters get shot down.

00:48:13.680 Obviously, their past schedule at this point.

00:48:16.000 They actually took longer to do the raid, guys, because what ended up happening was they found a bunch of diskettes.

00:48:21.520 They found papers.

00:48:23.100 They found thumb drives, et cetera.

00:48:25.500 So they actually had to stay a full 18 minutes longer than expected to go ahead and get all the documents to, you know, for further analyzation.

00:48:33.080 So, you know, at this point, who knows what the hell is going to happen?

00:48:35.520 The police are probably being called.

00:48:37.040 Military might be getting notified.

00:48:39.360 There was a military base very close to this.

00:48:41.140 It's a bit on his compound.

00:48:43.000 And remember, they didn't, you know, get country clearance to enter.

00:48:46.220 So this is almost an act of war, what they're doing, by the way, guys.

00:48:48.620 This is very serious implications here.

00:48:50.300 The only reason they're able to do this to Pakistan is because, well, quite frankly, we can bully Pakistan around. 1.00

00:48:54.980 That's the only reason why they could do it. 1.00

00:48:55.940 But if you did this shit to another world power, bro, this is an act of fucking war. 1.00

00:48:59.920 You brought military personnel into the country. 1.00

00:49:02.900 No clearance.

00:49:03.900 Go in. 1.00

00:49:04.660 Kill someone. 1.00

00:49:05.800 Take the body. 1.00

00:49:06.700 Take the possessions, et cetera.

00:49:08.880 Commit murder, right?

00:49:10.340 That's essentially what it is, even though they're murdering a terrorist.

00:49:13.000 Right.

00:49:13.180 Good thing.

00:49:13.860 But in the eyes of Pakistani law, this is illegal.

00:49:16.880 Right. 1.00

00:49:17.280 So you go in there, kill them, you know, raid the house, all this other stuff, kill a bunch of other dudes. 1.00

00:49:22.980 And then you leave, bro. 1.00

00:49:24.700 You know, this is some serious shit. 0.99

00:49:26.140 So they're obviously have some very serious implications. 1.00

00:49:29.120 I guarantee you, the U.S. probably had to give a bunch of goddamn financial aid to Pakistan after this shit. 0.99

00:49:34.780 We definitely owed them a couple of steak dinners, if you know what I'm saying. 0.99

00:49:38.000 Gets of everything.

00:49:38.740 Yeah, just in case.

00:49:39.740 You thought of everything.

00:49:41.460 We tried.

00:49:42.720 One seal took blood and saliva samples.

00:49:45.680 Owen took the pictures.

00:49:47.540 I figured these were probably some of the most important photos I'd ever take in my life.

00:49:51.240 So, you know, make sure I do it right, get good angles and all this other stuff.

00:49:55.420 But, you know.

00:49:56.060 You know, he definitely took a selfie. 1.00

00:49:57.940 You know, for a fact, that boy took a fucking selfie, man. 1.00

00:50:04.360 Oh, man. 1.00

00:50:05.120 He probably had to get the right angles, right?

00:50:06.760 This is 2011.

00:50:07.760 This is before Instagram filters, guys.

00:50:09.180 So he had to make sure he knew what he was doing in this one.

00:50:13.360 Get up.

00:50:14.280 Clean off the face.

00:50:15.360 So it's as identifiable as possible.

00:50:18.300 So one of my buddies had a Camelback with some water in it.

00:50:22.820 Got some, you know, spread.

00:50:25.240 Because they shot him in the head.

00:50:26.200 So obviously they had to clean the blood off his face.

00:50:28.640 Some water on him.

00:50:29.640 Took a sheet off the bed.

00:50:30.660 Kind of wiped the blood off and then took photos.

00:50:33.120 Wiping the blood off of Osama bin Laden's face.

00:50:36.320 Camelback is one of those backpacks that has a water bladder in it.

00:50:39.540 And you use it to drink water out of.

00:50:41.540 But you used it to wash his face.

00:50:43.000 And you shot pictures of his face in a profile.

00:50:46.680 Can you describe what they look like?

00:50:49.500 They're pretty gruesome.

00:50:51.100 Well, when you say...

00:50:51.880 And just so you guys know, they put makeup on this guy.

00:50:53.840 And they adjusted his voice.

00:50:55.040 He doesn't really look that weird or whatever it may be.

00:50:57.120 It's just that they had to put an insane amount of makeup.

00:51:00.560 Cosmetic stuff on his face.

00:51:02.100 You know, that's why he has that weird glassy look to him.

00:51:04.860 But yeah, it's a disguise.

00:51:06.880 And they adjusted his voice in the playback.

00:51:10.180 So what was that, Christina?

00:51:12.020 Didn't he still get sued, though?

00:51:13.600 Yeah, he still got sued.

00:51:14.360 Yeah, because they were able to figure out...

00:51:15.300 I mean, it was like 20 guys that did an admission.

00:51:17.580 So they were able to figure out who he was immediately.

00:51:19.340 I mean, he did say his position.

00:51:20.940 Yeah.

00:51:21.500 So, yeah.

00:51:22.400 And he had done like a couple of speeches and stuff like this, too.

00:51:25.200 So, yeah, it was hell.

00:51:28.020 Gruesome.

00:51:28.500 What are we talking about?

00:51:30.300 He had a bullet wound in the head.

00:51:33.420 So...

00:51:33.900 That gruesome.

00:51:36.060 Two SEALs took the body downstairs and zipped bin Laden.

00:51:39.700 And that's a big part of the reason why they didn't release the pictures of his body.

00:51:44.320 Because they didn't want to incite other terrorists or anything else like that.

00:51:46.620 Because, you know, it can inspire other, you know, jihadists to try to, you know, do something.

00:51:51.960 Into a bag.

00:51:53.340 In the bedroom, Owen found an assault rifle and a pistol on a shelf.

00:51:57.820 And some people would argue that, you know, why did that point man take those shots?

00:52:04.440 Well, immediately, the first door we went to, my team was engaged by enemy fire through the door.

00:52:11.340 So, automatically, we know we're going into an enemy compound.

00:52:17.100 Shots being fired back at us immediately.

00:52:19.760 AK found next to Khalid on the stairs.

00:52:22.300 All those boxes have been checked that... 1.00

00:52:25.980 So, basically, all these other idiots made it a lot worse for bin Laden. 0.99

00:52:29.760 So, they were already going up there by the time they encountered him last. 1.00

00:52:32.520 They assumed that he was going to try to shoot, you know?

00:52:34.380 Because all the curators and his son had shot.

00:52:36.620 Sticks his head around the corner.

00:52:38.580 He very easily could have a gun.

00:52:40.300 You don't wait to...

00:52:42.120 Or at least had weapons.

00:52:43.320 I know the son, I don't think he...

00:52:44.520 I don't know if he shot, but he had access to a weapon. 1.00

00:52:47.940 It's just that he was an idiot and poked his head out and ended up getting hit with that fucking... 1.00

00:52:52.280 Get that AK or the grenade thrown down the hall or the suicide vest. 1.00

00:52:58.100 So, in the split second, that's when he engaged.

00:53:01.340 He did have a gun, but he didn't use it.

00:53:04.600 And I wonder what you make of that.

00:53:09.540 I think in the end, he taught a lot of people to do, you know, martyr themselves.

00:53:14.860 And he masterminded the 9-11 attacks. 0.70

00:53:18.120 But in the end, he wasn't even willing to roger up himself with a gun and put up a fight.

00:53:23.320 So, I think that speaks for itself.

00:53:26.180 Back on the second floor, the SEALs were grabbing computers, discs, flash drives, videotapes.

00:53:32.480 More priceless intelligence than they could carry.

00:53:35.720 There was so much stuff in this house.

00:53:37.840 The guys were just stuffing this stuff in garbage bags?

00:53:40.780 We had carried bags with us, but we filled all these bags up.

00:53:44.420 So, you just find some, you know, an old gym bag on Target, dump out whatever's in it, and use that.

00:53:50.300 As we were running out, I look over at my buddy.

00:53:52.460 He's got a bag of stuff in one hand, like, you know, Santa Claus running out of there.

00:53:55.980 But a bag full of goodies in one hand that he'd collected and a computer terminal in the other.

00:54:01.960 The plan had been to be on the ground for 30 minutes, but now they were a few minutes late.

00:54:07.920 It was after 1.30 a.m.

00:54:10.280 Now things are starting to pick up outside.

00:54:12.220 People have obviously woken up at this point.

00:54:14.720 They're coming over to investigate what's going on.

00:54:17.600 They were the neighbors, and they had a lot of questions for the SEALs standing guard outside the wall.

00:54:23.640 Oh, yeah, I'm sure of that.

00:54:24.900 Who the hell are you dudes all tacked out with night vision goggles and camouflage,

00:54:28.540 and y'all can't speak Urdu or none of this? 1.00

00:54:30.800 Who the hell are you, motherfuckers, man? 1.00

00:54:33.200 Wait, because the neighbors didn't know that he was there, right? 1.00

00:54:35.200 No, they didn't know it was bin Laden.

00:54:38.180 They just knew whoever lived there probably had some money, though, with that big-ass compound.

00:54:41.540 So, that's where things keep...

00:54:43.080 Which, by the way, you guys, we got to watch that episode that I did on bin Laden and the CIA.

00:54:47.760 When bin Laden's father died, guys, I think in 1969, just so y'all understand this,

00:54:52.180 bin Laden was worth $25 million, okay?

00:54:56.140 $25 million, guys, real quick.

00:54:58.540 In 1969, $25 million in 1969 today is the equivalent to, let's see here, $25...

00:55:10.640 I'm doing the inflation calculator right now for y'all, okay?

00:55:16.400 That is the equivalent to...

00:55:19.020 Here, I'll just show you guys instead of you guys thinking I'm cap here.

00:55:23.260 It is the equivalent to $202,185,286.10 today.

00:55:35.980 That's what he was worth, guys, back in 1969 when his father died, if I'm not mistaken, of a plane accident, right?

00:55:43.280 And when his father died, just so y'all understand this as well, okay, his construction company, because that's how bin Laden's made all their money, was worth $5 billion, which is the equivalent today of $44 billion, okay? 0.78

00:55:57.140 And I already did the math on that one.

00:55:59.260 So, bin Laden had some money.

00:56:01.400 A lot of people think he was just some poor dude in the cave somewhere, but he had quite a bit of money, guys.

00:56:06.340 But didn't he get, like, cut off, though?

00:56:08.740 Okay, he didn't.

00:56:09.640 So, the Saudi government tried to get him cut off.

00:56:11.840 Yeah.

00:56:12.200 But they ended up...

00:56:14.100 Because they said, like...

00:56:14.620 They couldn't, like, cut off his money, though, because he had already had it.

00:56:18.300 But they were...

00:56:18.980 Because he was getting a $7 million a year allowance.

00:56:22.020 Yeah, and then he said, like, that...

00:56:23.720 Yeah.

00:56:23.900 He was like, no, not anymore.

00:56:24.580 And quick little...

00:56:25.380 What Christina's referring to.

00:56:26.740 So, okay, quick little recap for y'all.

00:56:28.320 Okay.

00:56:28.760 So, what happened, right?

00:56:30.000 Rewind this thing.

00:56:30.600 So, bin Laden and a bunch of resistance fighters were successful in keeping away the Russians, 0.99

00:56:40.160 a.k.a. the Soviet Union, from invading in Afghanistan, which, by the way, bin Laden got a lot of aid from the United States

00:56:45.980 to fight off the Russians during this conflict in the 80s, okay?

00:56:49.460 Started in 1979, ended sometime in the 80s, right before the Soviet Union collapsed in, I think, 91.

00:56:54.140 So, after that, right, guess what happened?

00:56:57.560 Saddam Hussein decides to invade Kuwait.

00:56:59.700 And that obviously poses a national security risk for Saudi Arabia.

00:57:04.840 So, bin Laden, high-office victory from the Soviets, he's like, listen, we can fight these guys. 0.89

00:57:10.400 I have an army.

00:57:11.520 We have, right...

00:57:12.120 This is the beginnings of al-Qaeda now at this point, right?

00:57:14.560 His resistance fighters.

00:57:15.680 Hey, we're trained up.

00:57:17.080 We just beat the Soviets. 0.74

00:57:18.160 We can do this as well.

00:57:19.520 But what does the Saudi royal government want to do?

00:57:22.160 They say, no, we're going to go ahead and use the Americans. 0.98

00:57:25.000 The Americans are going to, you know, help us deal with Saddam Hussein and Iraq. 0.93

00:57:29.700 And to bin Laden, he looked at this like betrayal because, number one, they're, in his eyes, infidels, right?

00:57:36.160 It's the West.

00:57:37.120 They're Americans.

00:57:38.120 They're not Muslims. 1.00

00:57:39.420 They shouldn't be, you know, fighting a holy war like I should be fighting for us.

00:57:43.980 This is a problem, et cetera.

00:57:45.160 And he didn't like the United States because the United States obviously supports Israel.

00:57:49.540 And any, you know, we all know the Middle East hates the U.S. because of Israel.

00:57:53.020 And everybody in the Middle East hates Israel for obvious reasons because of the Palestinian conflict, right?

00:57:56.740 I don't want to make this a geopolitical podcast.

00:57:58.340 But these are just some basic things that you guys need to know so you can understand where this deep-seated hatred comes from.

00:58:05.360 So since bin Laden wasn't allowed to fight the Iraqis, a.k.a. Saddam Hussein's regime, when they invaded Kuwait, he spoke poorly about the Saudi government slash royal family.

00:58:17.400 And they stripped him of his Saudi Arabian citizenship, and he was exiled.

00:58:22.920 So he went and hid in Sudan for a while, and al-Qaeda operations moved there.

00:58:26.760 And, yes, for you guys that are wondering, yes, my parents are from North Sudan.

00:58:29.680 Ha, ha, ha.

00:58:30.160 Make your jokes.

00:58:31.080 So, anyway, but he's not Sudanese.

00:58:34.100 So at this time, you know, back in, like, early 90s, Sudan was one country.

00:58:38.220 Now there's North Sudan and South Sudan.

00:58:39.680 Now North Sudan is the Arab North, which is where my family's from, Khartoum.

00:58:42.640 And that's where Osama was in the early 90s, right? 0.95

00:58:46.660 So he got a Sudanese passport, et cetera.

00:58:50.400 So that's where the hatred came, and that's how he ended up getting problems with the Saudi government.

00:58:58.280 It was for his criticisms of the Saudi government utilizing the United States for protection against Saddam Hussein and the invasion in Kuwait.

00:59:05.720 And this obviously stems from the petrodollar and the United States making an alliance with Saudi Arabia, saying that we will protect you guys from all, you know, types of issues and or invasions or whatever, because for obvious reasons, Saudi Arabia controls the oil.

00:59:21.020 And as long as the Saudi Arabian government agreed that all oil deals would be done in U.S. dollars, which guess what?

00:59:28.240 The entire world's got to use U.S. dollars to buy oil.

00:59:31.160 Oil is the bloodline of the world.

00:59:33.320 And that right there ensures that the U.S. dollar stays in power, stays the reserve currency.

00:59:37.540 And that, my friends, is how the petrodollar was created.

00:59:41.540 I know that was a very rough explanation of it, but that right there is how Osama made his millions upon millions, how his family made billions, his exile from Saudi Arabia to Sudan, and why he hates the United States and how the issues started with him in the United States.

01:00:01.600 It stems from support of Israel and from them taking over and protecting the Saudi Arabian kingdom from Iraq, which he feels the United States had no business on Islamic lands.

01:00:14.220 All right, let's keep going.

01:00:16.360 Get real dynamic for that.

01:00:17.580 How's that, Christina?

01:00:18.120 How's that explanation?

01:00:20.200 Yeah.

01:00:20.560 Not bad?

01:00:21.600 Team outside.

01:00:22.620 Somebody wants to know what was going on inside.

01:00:24.200 That team had way more responsibility than just about anybody else because they were dealing with all the what-ifs outside.

01:00:33.060 What if the police showed up or the military?

01:00:36.160 We're running out of time.

01:00:37.260 We've got to get going.

01:00:38.180 There's neighbors approaching.

01:00:39.720 The interpreter that was out here said, hey, there's a police operation going on here.

01:00:43.860 Go back to your homes. 0.97

01:00:45.180 And they'd simply go back away.

01:00:47.360 Among the unfinished business was the crashed helicopter.

01:00:51.080 It was a secret design.

01:00:52.420 That thing is still there.

01:00:54.520 Now, this is going to be interesting here, what they have to do here.

01:00:57.600 Loaded with secret gear.

01:00:59.380 They had to blow it up.

01:01:01.020 A message.

01:01:01.640 Yeah, because the helicopter, guaranteed, probably had technology in it that was classified to a high level.

01:01:07.760 So, yeah.

01:01:09.560 It was passed to their explosives expert called the EOD man.

01:01:14.080 Prep it to blow, they said.

01:01:15.920 But the it in the message was a little vague.

01:01:19.200 Like, the EOD guy thinks he means prep the house to blow.

01:01:26.060 So, there we are in the middle.

01:01:27.720 Wait, prep the house to blow?

01:01:28.860 What? 1.00

01:01:29.520 Oh, what the fuck? 1.00

01:01:32.220 Well, this, and he's like, okay. 1.00

01:01:33.300 Well, I guess he's going to, you know, they knocked down the Twin Towers.

01:01:35.540 They're going to knock down his house.

01:01:36.800 Roger that. 0.99

01:01:37.380 Prep it to blow.

01:01:37.960 So, he's running around the first floor of the house, setting his charges, getting ready to blow up the house.

01:01:42.540 And somebody looks over.

01:01:43.480 I was like, dude, dude, what are you doing?

01:01:45.640 He's like, oh, I'm prepping it to blow.

01:01:46.640 He's like, not the house, the helicopter.

01:01:49.420 Well, he hadn't got the word that there was a helicopter even down.

01:01:52.360 He's like, what helicopter?

01:01:53.980 He's like, the one in the courtyard.

01:01:55.360 Go take a look.

01:01:56.040 So, he runs outside, sees the helicopter, and then they proceed.

01:02:00.860 And remember, guys, they were split into different teams.

01:02:02.700 So, that's why that guy might have not known that.

01:02:04.460 To rig it to blow.

01:02:05.260 It was past time to go.

01:02:08.200 Two large helicopters called CH-47s, filled with reinforcements and fuel, had been standing by during the raid.

01:02:16.700 The remaining Blackhawk would return for half of the SEALs.

01:02:20.300 A CH-47 would pick up the rest.

01:02:22.560 The Blackhawk that's picking us up lands first. 1.00

01:02:27.080 We run through the field, carrying the body in the body bag, load the remaining Blackhawk, and then we slowly lift off and move away.

01:02:37.200 While they're waiting for the 47 to come in, the timer on the charges is ticking down.

01:02:42.760 The explosion on this helicopter is coming.

01:02:45.460 How much time have they got?

01:02:46.460 Not much left.

01:02:47.240 Minutes.

01:02:47.400 They're under 30 seconds.

01:02:48.460 And, guys, they have to blow it up because it's a classified, probably designed, they don't want foreign, the Pakistani government, you know, any other terrorists to get a hold of this plane and be able to get access to U.S. technology. 0.87

01:02:59.720 So, they have to blow it up.

01:03:01.440 That's fair running down.

01:03:03.220 The team leader that was in charge of the demo team, he gets a hold of the commanding officer, gets him on the radio talking at the 47, tells the 47 to do a go-around as he's doing the go-around of the South.

01:03:15.940 Boom, the charge goes.

01:03:17.040 Our Blackhawk's already gone.

01:03:19.160 This explodes.

01:03:20.460 Big, huge explosion.

01:03:22.480 The 47 comes right back around, lands, the guys load on, and now they're airborne.

01:03:28.400 We're done.

01:03:29.060 We're clean from the target.

01:03:31.680 That glow at the compound was the helicopter on fire.

01:03:37.860 The SEALs were on the ground about 38 minutes, which meant their Blackhawk had been in the air, waiting a little longer than planned.

01:03:46.240 Sure enough, I'm sitting in the helicopter, and you turn around and look in the cockpit, and I see flashing red lights.

01:03:52.180 Well, I'm not a pilot, but anything flashing red in a vehicle is typically not good.

01:03:58.080 Those gas gauges were...

01:03:59.900 And just so you guys know, I'll tell you guys this from my training experience as well.

01:04:03.200 So when I've been on surveillance, I hated using helicopters because helicopters can only be up in the air for like 30 minutes, bro.

01:04:09.040 30 minutes to an hour, depending on the gas tank and the size of the helicopter.

01:04:12.000 But the thing is, is that they have to constantly go and refuel, guys, because it burns up gasoline. 0.98

01:04:19.520 So I could only imagine for them, like, oh, shit, we're behind schedule. 0.98

01:04:24.660 The chopper's here. 0.99

01:04:25.920 Are we going to have enough gas to make it back over the border into Afghanistan? 1.00

01:04:29.220 So I totally understand where he's coming from here because helicopters fucking suck. 0.99

01:04:34.140 We're about to run out. 0.99

01:04:35.180 For gas.

01:04:36.040 Out of fuel.

01:04:37.560 During their escape, the SEALs were forced to land in Pakistan.

01:04:42.180 One of the CH-47s was waiting on the ground and refueled their Blackhawk.

01:04:47.540 The Pakistanis didn't get you on the way in, but you're concerned they're going to get you on the way out. 1.00

01:04:51.360 Sure.

01:04:51.680 We got to get out of here.

01:04:53.040 When did you know that you were out of Pakistan?

01:04:54.660 Because once again, guys, keep in mind, they're in a foreign country. 0.77

01:04:58.100 They committed something which many would look at as an act of war.

01:05:02.500 Okay.

01:05:03.000 They didn't notify them.

01:05:04.540 Zero country clearance.

01:05:06.720 If anything happened, guys, let me tell you all this.

01:05:08.780 I guarantee you they probably can't say this during the interview.

01:05:11.100 But if let's say they had to engage like the Pakistani government or some shit like that and the military showed up or whatever. 0.71

01:05:18.340 They would have gotten to the into the it's a firefight. 0.94

01:05:22.740 And the U.S. government would have wiped their hands clean.

01:05:25.300 We don't know who them niggas are. 1.00

01:05:28.060 What?

01:05:29.840 I don't know. 0.98

01:05:31.240 Obama be sitting at the freaking at the table with the Pakistani president like with amnesia. 0.95

01:05:35.980 Like, I didn't clear this. 0.91

01:05:37.060 I didn't know about this at all.

01:05:38.520 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:05:39.840 Guaranteed, bro.

01:05:41.040 Guaranteed that they probably had orders like, yo, if you guys engage with the foreign government or whatever it may be, this does not come from the president.

01:05:49.720 You know, geopolitics is very sensitive, guys.

01:05:52.900 That's why they're freaking out to get out of the country, because they're not supposed to be there, guys.

01:05:58.100 Pakistan.

01:05:58.780 They radioed over or came on over the radio, said, hey, we're back.

01:06:02.840 We're back in Afghanistan.

01:06:04.080 And you thought what?

01:06:06.720 Big sigh of relief.

01:06:07.700 Yeah, what they did, guys, was wild, right, from a geopolitical standpoint.

01:06:17.540 Wow.

01:06:18.220 We might have actually pulled this off.

01:06:19.880 This is crazy.

01:06:20.640 Was there ever a point, Mark, in which you shook hands with each other, slapped each other on the back?

01:06:26.560 Yeah, once we landed, everybody kind of hugged and high-fived and took a couple photos.

01:06:31.600 And, you know, it was our five-minute, hey, cool, we pulled this off.

01:06:36.840 Good job.

01:06:37.500 And then it was back to work.

01:06:39.480 In his book, Owen...

01:06:40.660 All right, so let's go ahead, and we're going to move on over to what they actually found in bin Laden's compound, guys, okay?

01:06:46.940 Examining the bin Laden papers, okay?

01:06:49.020 I remember this day right here when bin Laden addressed the nation.

01:06:55.800 I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden.

01:07:04.940 The operation, called Neptune Spear, took 30 minutes, but then one SEAL alerted...

01:07:10.500 38 minutes.

01:07:11.560 ...commanded that they'd found a ton of computers and electronics and needed more time.

01:07:16.040 The SEALs were granted 10 more minutes that stretched into 18.

01:07:20.700 They grabbed computers, VHS tapes, books, thumb drives, hard drives, and notebooks, carrying them out in bags strung around their neck.

01:07:30.060 How important was that last-minute decision by the SEAL team to take those documents?

01:07:36.880 Bin Laden's greatest fear was about exposing al-Qaeda secrets.

01:07:41.760 And so the fact that the SEALs decided to recover these letters ensured that al-Qaeda secrets were exposed.

01:07:51.640 Really interesting stuff here that we're about to see, guys.

01:07:53.860 Let's get into it, baby.

01:07:54.980 2012, Nellie LaHood was teaching at West Point when the CIA declassified the first 17 documents from the raid.

01:08:02.760 She was asked to lead the analysis of those documents for West Point's Combating Terrorism Center.

01:08:08.340 For the last five years, she's been...

01:08:11.340 She's obviously a fluent Arab speaker, Arabic speaker, so this is going to be good stuff here, guys.

01:08:16.740 ...reading, translating, and analyzing the remaining declassified documents,

01:08:21.880 consulting with U.S. generals, admirals, and members of the Special Forces community to make sense of it all.

01:08:27.540 There are home videos, like this one, of Osama bin Laden's son, Hamza.

01:08:34.000 Which, by the way, Hamza, okay, guys, he was killed under the Trump administration in 2019.

01:08:42.980 Hamza bin Laden.

01:08:47.180 He was killed, let's see here, died 2019.

01:08:49.880 They don't have the exact day, but this is him right here.

01:08:53.240 This was him at his wedding, that photograph.

01:08:56.920 Hamza bin Laden, bin Laden's... 0.67

01:08:59.200 Laden, better known as Hamza bin Laden, was Saudi Arabian-born member of Al-Qaeda.

01:09:03.040 He was a son of Al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden, and following his father's death to 2011,

01:09:06.520 he was described as an emergency leader within a group, which is why they killed him in 2019.

01:09:10.760 Did they have a date on when they got him?

01:09:13.220 I know Trump confirmed it.

01:09:17.960 Okay, so they're not 100% sure.

01:09:19.440 They killed him in either 2017 or 2019, he was 28 to 30.

01:09:22.500 So they don't even know, I guess.

01:09:29.580 How do you not know?

01:09:30.880 Interesting.

01:09:32.660 No.

01:09:35.180 Okay, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia announced on March 1st, 2019,

01:09:39.140 they revoked bin Laden's citizenship through a royal decree signed in November 2018.

01:09:42.700 Yeah.

01:09:43.260 And they did the same thing to his father.

01:09:45.120 They took his citizenship away as well.

01:09:46.760 Which, by the way, just so you guys know, Saudi Arabian citizenship is very difficult to get.

01:09:51.580 And I think the reason why they were able to take it away from these guys is because bin Laden, 1.00

01:09:56.220 his family is actually from Yemen.

01:09:59.800 He's from, yeah, he's from Hadaramut, Yemen.

01:10:02.820 Right here is where he's from.

01:10:04.940 And we covered this in the original podcast.

01:10:07.180 The last episode I did, guys, we talked about bin Laden's background,

01:10:10.360 which a lot of you guys were interested as to how he had all that money.

01:10:14.220 And, you know, I'm surprised that more Americans don't know that bin Laden was extremely wealthy.

01:10:18.660 Like, how the hell are you going to wage jihad against the United States when you don't got no money, bro?

01:10:23.600 You know, you got to have money.

01:10:25.420 But, yeah, here he is.

01:10:26.160 He's a Saudi millionaire from Hadaramut, Yemen,

01:10:28.840 and was the founder of the construction company, his father.

01:10:31.700 Okay?

01:10:31.980 Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, his father.

01:10:33.540 So, and like I said before, back in 1969 when he passed away,

01:10:38.080 the construction company, guys, was worth $5 billion back then,

01:10:41.640 which is the equivalent of $44 billion today.

01:10:43.680 So he would be right up there with Bill Gates.

01:10:45.920 All right?

01:10:46.180 And bin Laden got $25 million of that,

01:10:48.320 which is, I think, the equivalent, as we said earlier, $220 million today.

01:10:52.020 Getting married in Iran.

01:10:53.980 Family photos, audio files, and letters.

01:10:56.840 500,000 files in all.

01:10:58.940 Nellie Lahoud focused on 6,000 pages of them for her book,

01:11:03.060 the bin Laden papers.

01:11:05.860 So you were creating kind of a narrative based on all of the documents.

01:11:09.500 And you couldn't do it any other way.

01:11:11.560 You couldn't have a division of labor where several people would take on

01:11:15.160 because they're all so connected.

01:11:17.080 Vague references in one letter can only be explained

01:11:20.360 if you looked at several other letters.

01:11:21.940 So really, to get a grasp of what was really going on,

01:11:25.880 you really need to be able to have read them all together.

01:11:28.760 And there's probably a purpose for that, right?

01:11:30.680 So if you find one piece of paper and you don't understand the context

01:11:34.620 of the totality of the circumstances,

01:11:36.140 you're not going to be able to know what the hell is going on, right?

01:11:38.840 So I'm sure bin Laden probably did this on purpose 1.00

01:11:40.600 so that you need to have everything to make sense of anything.

01:11:44.080 Letters were the only way Osama bin Laden communicated with Al-Qaeda associates

01:11:50.820 for nearly a decade because he was trying to evade capture.

01:11:55.200 Bin Laden had television in his compound

01:11:57.140 but didn't have access to the internet or phone.

01:11:59.880 So everything was written by hand or on computers.

01:12:03.600 Interesting, guys, as far as bin Laden having access to television,

01:12:06.980 this actually, I just found this hilarious.

01:12:10.040 This part right here.

01:12:11.320 Oh, Christina's laughing.

01:12:12.180 You remember this?

01:12:12.640 So when Bin Laden watches TV, guys,

01:12:14.520 this is what this guy used to do when you watch TV.

01:12:17.860 He seemed to curate for himself what he did and didn't want to see.

01:12:22.060 A clue to this is how he watched TV news footage.

01:12:25.220 If a female TV newscaster came up on his TV, 0.99

01:12:28.080 he'd take his remote and kind of flip up the satellite channel

01:12:30.440 and find it so it covered her face. 0.98

01:12:33.700 Misogony!

01:12:35.800 Denied.

01:12:36.160 And when she disappeared, he would turn it down and put it back onto a normal screen.

01:12:47.380 If there is other photos, press conference by President Obama or anything else,

01:12:53.160 press the menu button.

01:12:55.440 You want to see nothing American in women or America? 1.00

01:12:58.220 Hell nah. 0.62

01:12:59.100 Nope.

01:12:59.400 I'm good with that.

01:13:00.680 He sees a woman speaking.

01:13:02.120 It doesn't matter what you think!

01:13:05.080 So steady.

01:13:06.620 He doesn't want to see anything else but Al-Qaeda and but himself. 0.74

01:13:11.060 A bunch of violence, of course, as well, right?

01:13:18.160 I mean, he's a terrorist, right?

01:13:19.220 Of course, he doesn't have violent videos all over his stuff.

01:13:21.460 Wait, what's it?

01:13:22.020 What was that, Christina?

01:13:26.020 Didn't he, like, use the videos and, like, pornography to, like, write messages?

01:13:30.080 Yes, yes, yes. 1.00

01:13:31.180 You're giving it away, goddammit woman! 1.00

01:13:33.000 I thought you said it last time for home. 1.00

01:13:35.000 Stupid! 1.00

01:13:35.520 Well, since Christina ruined it, I'll get to that part here in a second. 1.00

01:13:38.680 We've been watching this over and over again.

01:13:40.440 All right.

01:13:40.780 Made a lot of videos of extreme violence, which Bin Laden may well have been monitoring,

01:13:44.800 but many of which are so violent that we can't even show them to you.

01:13:49.820 Countless propaganda videos.

01:13:52.020 Many beheading videos.

01:13:57.400 Even a video of a young boy in Iraq beheading a hostage.

01:14:03.120 A video of a group of kids kicking at the dismembered leg of an American soldier 0.91

01:14:07.320 and celebrating, chanting, Death to America.

01:14:13.180 You guys can see the deep-rooted hate for the West, you know, in these propaganda videos.

01:14:19.200 And that stems from, you know, the Israeli situation.

01:14:22.020 Uh, okay, let me find the porn stuff, since Christina wants to ruin it for a minute.

01:14:25.960 Japanese anime.

01:14:26.540 Viral video downloads, like Charlie bit my finger.

01:14:31.540 It reported significant amount of pornography.

01:14:33.840 And as well, the treasure trove of personal communications.

01:14:39.220 Which we're going to get into the documents here in a second, but let me find the porn,

01:14:42.860 because they actually used it for a very intelligent reason.

01:14:46.440 Recovered.

01:14:46.800 As you guys know, you guys recognize him.

01:14:48.600 Ali Soufan, you know, was a member of the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force out of New York.

01:14:54.420 You know, interviewed KSM, interviewed Abu Zubaydah, a bunch of these terrorists that worked under the Al-Qaeda network.

01:15:01.780 Famous FBI agent.

01:15:02.780 And, you know, him and the CIA butt heads a little bit, because, you know, he's not really a fan of waterboarding, but the CIA is.

01:15:09.780 And he's more of a fan of, you know, traditional interviews where you're able to say, so am I, right?

01:15:13.920 Of course, because I'm a criminal investigator, especially just like he was, right?

01:15:17.040 Or I was.

01:15:18.300 And, you know, with us, it's like, if you're trying to gather evidence for a criminal trial, can't be out here waterboarding, guys.

01:15:22.840 You can't use that.

01:15:23.500 It's not admissible, because now he's under duress.

01:15:25.400 You know, that's coercion on a whole other level.

01:15:28.920 So that is why, you know, people wonder, oh, why hasn't Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or any of these other guys been prosecuted?

01:15:33.700 Because they've been watered, aborted, right?

01:15:35.400 I think one of the guys at KSM reported being waterboarded like 180 times, if you guys watched the last documentary.

01:15:42.020 So you can't prosecute these guys when you're torturing them.

01:15:45.060 But, you know, of course, national security overrides criminal prosecution.

01:15:48.840 So, you know, the FBI and CIA do things a lot differently.

01:15:51.500 If you guys want a little bit more detail on that, go watch the last podcast I did on Osama bin Laden.

01:15:55.400 They tried to live a normal life.

01:16:00.000 Osama bin Laden was in the hideout with his family, in isolation of the society that they lived in.

01:16:07.340 Bin Laden and his bodyguards went to considerable length to make this a fortified compound.

01:16:12.940 There was a very high wall around the compound.

01:16:17.780 And everything was about staying inside the compound, not going to school, not going shopping.

01:16:23.520 They were growing their own vegetables.

01:16:26.760 They were raising chickens.

01:16:33.240 They had cows.

01:16:34.420 They burned their own trash.

01:16:44.140 And in a sense, it was a sort of a prison of...

01:16:46.980 At one time, Mahmoud is trying to find the poor guys.

01:16:50.220 That means that everything we see on these drives can be linked to bin Laden.

01:16:53.080 All right, I'll find it.

01:16:58.140 But basically, guys, long story short, they sent pornography to each other.

01:17:02.500 And there was coding in the pornography that was encrypted so that they can communicate with each other.

01:17:09.540 Encrypted on flash drives that were given to couriers to deliver.

01:17:13.860 All the letters were backed up on hard drives.

01:17:16.560 But this is good.

01:17:17.340 A lot of juicy stuff in these letters.

01:17:18.620 So let's get into this.

01:17:19.640 And I'll find this pornography part here in a second. 0.87

01:17:22.120 We see in the letters a diminutive bin Laden. 0.66

01:17:28.600 Somebody who is very different from this powerful figure that we were reading about daily in the newspapers for over a decade.

01:17:38.060 And the disconnect between his ambitions and between his capabilities is confounding.

01:17:50.840 That disconnect was clear immediately after the 9-11 attacks.

01:17:56.140 Al-Qaeda did not anticipate that the United States would go to war.

01:18:01.800 What did they think was going to happen?

01:18:03.440 It's a limited airstrike.

01:18:04.740 But they didn't think that they would go beyond that. 0.99

01:18:06.540 And they fucked up right there, man. 1.00

01:18:09.320 Huge miscalculation by Osama. 1.00

01:18:11.040 So now we're starting to kind of figure out what they had planned after what they thought was going to happen after the terrorist attacks.

01:18:17.420 Which this was a huge miscalculation on his end thinking, oh, we'll just get a couple of airstrikes.

01:18:21.700 It ain't going to be that big a deal.

01:18:23.220 But little did he know that George Bush would not only go after him, but he would go after Saddam. 0.99

01:18:29.540 He'd go after fucking everybody, bro. 0.99

01:18:31.660 So, yeah. 1.00

01:18:33.520 Patriot Act, all that.

01:18:34.640 But as the war raged on in Afghanistan, Lahoud says these letters show that Osama bin Laden was surprised by how Americans reacted to 9-11.

01:18:45.420 He thought that the American people would take to the streets, replicate the anti-Vietnam War protest, and they would put pressure on their governments to withdraw from Muslim-majority states. 0.90

01:18:59.120 A large miscalculation.

01:19:01.340 A huge miscalculation.

01:19:01.860 Yeah, he thought the Jews were just going to say, you know what, man?

01:19:04.940 Look at that, Palestine, man. 1.00

01:19:06.580 It ain't that serious.

01:19:08.060 You know, that was really what he wanted.

01:19:09.420 He just wanted, you know, Israel and Western countries out of Muslim lands. 0.99

01:19:14.220 That's why a lot of these terrorist attacks occur in the first place, guys.

01:19:17.740 So, yeah.

01:19:19.100 Huge, big, that's an L. 1.00

01:19:21.420 Osama L right there.

01:19:22.400 For not realizing that they were not going to, you know, respond in that manner.

01:19:29.960 Calculation.

01:19:30.360 In November of 2002, U.S. intelligence officials warned Al-Qaeda might be planning, quote,

01:19:37.280 spectacular attacks that could cause mass casualties.

01:19:40.980 But Lahoud says letters show that by that time, Al-Qaeda was weak.

01:19:46.840 Top leaders had been killed or forced into hiding.

01:19:50.340 And the terrorist organization was rudderless.

01:19:53.260 There is definitely...

01:19:54.640 I believe that.

01:19:55.520 I mean, the U.S. waged a huge war on terror after 9-11.

01:19:59.060 The narrative that Bin Laden was still controlling Al-Qaeda from behind the scenes,

01:20:05.040 the puppet master somewhere hidden away.

01:20:09.340 But is that what the papers show?

01:20:12.080 Faframanth.

01:20:12.960 So he was not calling the shots?

01:20:14.720 Absolutely not.

01:20:15.840 She says Osama Bin Laden didn't communicate with his Al-Qaeda associates for three years

01:20:21.440 because he was...

01:20:22.420 Holy! 1.00

01:20:23.440 Oh, shit! 1.00

01:20:24.000 Three years, no leadership, three years, just a bunch of chaos, three years. 1.00

01:20:28.680 No one to, you know, to run the organization, guys, because he was too busy hiding, man.

01:20:34.540 On the run.

01:20:37.080 It's still unknown exactly where he was hiding.

01:20:40.020 But in 2004, he reconnects with Al-Qaeda in this letter,

01:20:44.400 offering surviving members his new plan to attack America.

01:20:48.560 He's very eager to replicate the 9-11 attacks. 0.94

01:20:51.960 And for all the people, you know, that, you know, believe...

01:20:55.140 And don't worry, guys, I'm going to cover the conspiracy theory episode next pod,

01:20:58.640 which that's a five-hour documentary, man.

01:21:00.960 That might be...

01:21:01.680 That's going to take me all day to do.

01:21:02.760 I ain't going to capture you guys.

01:21:04.060 But yeah, I might have to do that one.

01:21:06.280 I might do that one live.

01:21:07.340 Who knows?

01:21:08.060 But either way, guys,

01:21:09.280 for all the conspiracy theorists out there,

01:21:12.540 you know, how would they find this stuff in Bin Laden's house?

01:21:14.960 Ran in Arabic, you know, 1.00

01:21:15.860 obviously hidden away in a certain way or whatever.

01:21:17.960 So, again,

01:21:19.700 there's ammunition on both sides.

01:21:23.220 You know, the conspiracy theory documentary,

01:21:25.220 I watched it.

01:21:26.300 Some really good points that they made

01:21:27.840 about how the towers fell down,

01:21:30.300 how structurally impossible for it to come down that way,

01:21:33.420 unless, you know,

01:21:35.420 initiated by controlled demolition.

01:21:37.740 Bunch of good stuff,

01:21:38.460 which we're going to cover on the next episode.

01:21:39.660 But you got to look at both sides here.

01:21:40.740 I'm being objective.

01:21:41.500 You know, this is coming from a guy that was a former Fed.

01:21:43.720 So, you know,

01:21:45.540 there's no...

01:21:46.860 You know, this is irrefutable stuff.

01:21:49.420 You know, they obviously...

01:21:50.140 And for the people out there,

01:21:50.900 they didn't really kill Bin Laden.

01:21:52.660 Really?

01:21:53.200 I mean, guys, he hasn't made...

01:21:54.920 Have you seen him wagging his finger,

01:21:56.940 you know, saying death to America in the past 10 years?

01:21:58.920 I haven't.

01:21:59.960 So, you know,

01:22:01.040 he's been gone for a while, right?

01:22:02.280 So, but let's continue on with what she finds here.

01:22:05.940 So, he wants to go ahead and do the 9-11 attacks again.

01:22:10.560 Or replicate them.

01:22:11.760 Come close to replicating them.

01:22:13.100 It's...

01:22:13.740 You know, he is mindful

01:22:15.300 that now the security conditions

01:22:18.500 are very difficult at airports.

01:22:21.420 She read us part of this...

01:22:22.440 Yeah, TSA is now a thing now. 1.00

01:22:24.760 You know, homeland security is real now after this shit. 1.00

01:22:27.180 ...chilling letter from Osama Bin Laden 1.00

01:22:29.880 to the head of Al-Qaeda's International Terror Unit.

01:22:33.160 Bin Laden writes that rather than hijack a plane,

01:22:36.180 operatives should charter one

01:22:37.760 for their next attack on the U.S. 0.68

01:22:39.760 and adds, if that's too difficult,

01:22:42.160 they should target U.S. railways.

01:22:44.500 Then, bin Laden, 0.90

01:22:45.980 who had a degree in civil engineering,

01:22:48.620 explains exactly how to do it.

01:22:50.840 He wanted to have 12 meters of steel rail removed

01:22:55.960 so that this way the train could be derailed.

01:23:00.360 And we find him explaining the simple toolkit

01:23:04.640 that they could use.

01:23:05.920 You know, he said here,

01:23:06.980 you could use a compressor,

01:23:08.400 you could use smelting iron tool.

01:23:10.960 He's in those small details.

01:23:13.960 At the granular, most granular level.

01:23:15.860 What does that say to you?

01:23:17.600 He's very methodical.

01:23:18.760 So, very methodical.

01:23:20.240 He thinks he doesn't want to leave anything for chance.

01:23:24.040 I know, well, as you have...

01:23:26.420 Yeah, you know, contrary to popular belief, 1.00

01:23:28.580 this wasn't just an idiot sitting in a cave somewhere 1.00

01:23:30.460 in Afghanistan hiding against the United States 1.00

01:23:32.400 that was poor.

01:23:33.440 He was a multi-millionaire,

01:23:35.740 you know, extremely wealthy,

01:23:37.940 knowledgeable, had a degree, 1.00

01:23:39.600 not a stupid guy. 1.00

01:23:40.920 Obviously, to be able to pull off a tax like this 1.00

01:23:42.520 and plan this out for as long as they did,

01:23:44.880 you know, you got to have some kind of wits about you

01:23:46.820 with some kind of knowledge.

01:23:47.560 So, this guy was, you know, sinister, man.

01:23:50.680 Had some really bad things planned

01:23:52.660 for the United States.

01:23:57.300 Fortunately, he was never able to execute his plan

01:24:00.600 because Lahoud says Al-Qaeda had been gutted by the war.

01:24:05.180 She read us this letter from Tafiq,

01:24:07.060 a young associate who was running operations

01:24:09.360 for Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

01:24:11.840 He's telling Osama bin Laden just how incapacitated

01:24:16.020 the terror organization had become.

01:24:18.700 The weakness, failure, and aimlessness

01:24:20.820 that befell us were harrowing. 0.74

01:24:22.800 We Muslims were defiled and desecrated. 0.70

01:24:25.200 Our state was ripped asunder. 0.96

01:24:26.820 Our lands were occupied.

01:24:28.380 Our resources were plundered.

01:24:30.420 And so he's giving the state of Al-Qaeda 0.98

01:24:32.420 to Osama bin Laden,

01:24:34.040 who probably hasn't heard this at this point.

01:24:36.840 He didn't know.

01:24:37.420 He didn't know the reality.

01:24:38.380 And he actually warns him

01:24:40.120 that I'm going to tell you the truth as it is.

01:24:42.520 And I know that some of the brothers here

01:24:44.380 are not telling you everything in detail

01:24:46.060 because they don't want to upset you,

01:24:48.200 particularly because of the delicate situations

01:24:50.380 in which you find yourself with.

01:24:52.620 That delicate situation is bin Laden's life in hiding.

01:24:56.920 You guys can see here he is with dyed beard.

01:24:59.120 You know, wants to preserve youth to a degree.

01:25:01.420 Doesn't want to make himself look old and senile and weak.

01:25:04.220 So, you know, and that's why when they found him,

01:25:06.700 right, years later,

01:25:08.840 his beard was dyed.

01:25:12.260 By 2005, Osama bin Laden was living behind

01:25:15.360 the 18-foot walls of the Abbottabad compound

01:25:18.280 he shared with some... 0.96

01:25:19.700 You guys can see, look, burning their trash. 0.92

01:25:21.440 ...some of his wives, children, and grandchildren

01:25:24.080 seen here in this video seized during the raid.

01:25:27.200 In this clip, bin Laden's 22-year-old son, Khaled,

01:25:34.760 is showing off the compound's meager gardens.

01:25:37.640 That was Khaled who got killed during the raid,

01:25:39.900 which we showed in the last video.

01:25:42.200 ...and animals he tends to.

01:25:45.240 Khaled also recorded his father's public statements

01:25:48.840 that were intended to be seen around the world.

01:25:51.380 You can hear him giggling as the lights malfunction.

01:25:57.820 The bin Laden bloopers. 1.00

01:26:00.160 Coming soon to you.

01:26:02.040 But Nelly Lahoud says it was actually

01:26:04.040 two of bin Laden's daughters

01:26:05.760 who played the greater role

01:26:07.500 in crafting their father's messages

01:26:09.420 and jihad missions. 1.00

01:26:11.120 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:26:12.280 What the hell? 1.00

01:26:13.540 Massagony. 0.99

01:26:14.460 Oh! 0.60

01:26:15.720 The people who really were...

01:26:17.460 Yeah, I didn't know that, did ya?

01:26:18.540 Huh?

01:26:19.620 There'll be a lot of women out here 1.00

01:26:21.440 going hard in the terrorist state.

01:26:24.480 ...on Osama's public statements

01:26:26.440 were mostly his daughters, Mariam and Sumayya.

01:26:32.180 And at one of the pages, you know,

01:26:34.680 we find Osama soliciting explicitly 0.77

01:26:38.060 start preparing, start thinking about the ideas

01:26:41.020 that need to go into the public statement.

01:26:43.560 That's his own words.

01:26:45.440 Is this surprising how involved they were?

01:26:49.180 Yes, it was.

01:26:50.120 It was surprising to me.

01:26:51.720 In the world of al-Qaeda 0.97

01:26:52.680 and if jihadism broadly,

01:26:54.520 women are not part of the public face of jihad. 0.97

01:26:59.260 But privately, the bin Laden women were very involved.

01:27:02.800 In this letter to a relative,

01:27:04.480 bin Laden's wife, Sihim,

01:27:05.740 is mourning the loss of a daughter

01:27:07.440 who died in childbirth.

01:27:09.020 But then the tone quickly changes.

01:27:11.320 And then she goes on to shame 1.00

01:27:15.080 and at the same time,

01:27:16.700 incite the men to take up jihad.

01:27:18.480 And she says, you know,

01:27:19.540 our women and children are suffering 0.99

01:27:22.480 while the men are being so vile and coward. 0.98

01:27:26.320 So that's... 0.97

01:27:27.880 Yeah.

01:27:28.420 Bin Laden's daughter's guys, 0.99

01:27:29.680 you know, and his wives were educated.

01:27:32.080 So, contrary to her proper belief.

01:27:34.780 So that's why they helped them

01:27:36.040 with penning some of his messages

01:27:37.540 to sound better.

01:27:39.580 That's the kind of personality

01:27:41.280 that we are encountering.

01:27:43.400 Because keep in mind,

01:27:44.340 he had money.

01:27:45.020 So what did he do?

01:27:45.740 He put his kids through,

01:27:46.740 you know, private schooling,

01:27:48.080 homeschooling, et cetera.

01:27:49.920 Wow.

01:27:50.380 About the women in the compound.

01:27:51.700 Yes.

01:27:52.480 Al-Qaeda was also running low on cash.

01:27:55.600 Lahut says documents show

01:27:57.000 that in 2006,

01:27:58.760 Al-Qaeda had just $200,000

01:28:00.940 in its coffers

01:28:02.200 and was unable to support... 1.00

01:28:04.280 Holy shit. 0.99

01:28:04.840 Only $200,000 back then. 0.99

01:28:06.880 That's not enough

01:28:07.360 to run a terrorist organization.

01:28:09.620 And let me see,

01:28:10.740 give you guys how much that was

01:28:12.780 in 2006.

01:28:15.900 That is the equivalent, guys,

01:28:18.000 to $294,000 today.

01:28:21.280 Okay.

01:28:21.660 $200,000 in 2006 to now

01:28:23.560 is the purchasing power

01:28:24.840 of about $294,452.38 today.

01:28:29.440 Support or control

01:28:31.000 an increasingly fractious jihad.

01:28:34.080 Still, she says,

01:28:35.820 Osama bin Laden kept plotting.

01:28:38.400 Lahut showed us this letter

01:28:39.760 to another young associate,

01:28:41.540 Eunice,

01:28:42.040 who'd impressed bin Laden

01:28:43.520 with his sharp intellect.

01:28:45.200 It says,

01:28:45.840 this is specifically addressed to you.

01:28:47.800 Top secret.

01:28:48.920 Do not share it with anyone.

01:28:50.760 It is Osama bin Laden's plan 1.00

01:28:52.720 for another terror attack in 2010.

01:28:55.800 This time,

01:28:56.620 he wanted to target

01:28:57.520 multiple crude oil tankers

01:28:59.380 and major shipping routes

01:29:00.680 around the Middle East

01:29:01.800 and Africa.

01:29:03.500 He says,

01:29:03.980 it does not escape you.

01:29:05.760 The importance of oil

01:29:06.740 for industrialized economy today.

01:29:09.640 And it is similar to blood

01:29:12.100 for human beings.

01:29:13.920 So if you cause somebody

01:29:15.240 to bleed excessively,

01:29:16.760 even if you don't kill him, 0.98

01:29:18.180 you'll at least weaken him.

01:29:20.120 And that's really what he really wanted

01:29:21.760 to do to the American economy.

01:29:24.160 And he knows that.

01:29:24.980 Why?

01:29:25.300 Because again,

01:29:26.180 guys,

01:29:26.600 now that we did earlier in this pod,

01:29:28.480 what did I talk to you guys about?

01:29:29.480 Right?

01:29:29.640 The petrodollar.

01:29:30.700 So you got to remember

01:29:31.560 that bin Laden knows

01:29:32.520 that the lifeblood

01:29:33.200 of the United States is oil.

01:29:35.040 It's the reason why his own country,

01:29:37.540 okay,

01:29:37.820 in his eyes,

01:29:38.680 betrayed him,

01:29:39.600 took his citizenship away,

01:29:41.080 exiled him to Sudan,

01:29:42.160 was because of what?

01:29:43.780 Oil.

01:29:44.040 The United States

01:29:45.040 was willing

01:29:45.820 to protect

01:29:46.920 the Saudi Arabian government

01:29:48.420 and royal family,

01:29:49.420 right,

01:29:49.860 from the Iraqi invasion

01:29:52.280 because of what?

01:29:54.240 Oil.

01:29:54.840 So he looks at it like,

01:29:55.680 all right,

01:29:56.020 if I get rid of the oil,

01:29:57.740 I hurt the Americans 1.00

01:29:58.800 because the Americans, 0.83

01:29:59.840 that's their lifeblood.

01:30:00.580 That's the only reason

01:30:01.180 that they're going ahead

01:30:02.200 and helping the Saudi government

01:30:03.640 and the Saudi royal family

01:30:04.600 is because of oil.

01:30:05.760 So if I can't protect my country,

01:30:07.620 they can't either. 1.00

01:30:08.760 Fuck the oil. 1.00

01:30:09.640 So that's how bin Laden 1.00

01:30:10.400 is looking at it.

01:30:12.340 All that comes from

01:30:13.040 the petrodollar, man.

01:30:14.500 She says bin Laden

01:30:15.580 details how al-Qaeda operatives

01:30:17.660 should integrate themselves

01:30:18.960 into those port areas

01:30:20.520 as fishermen.

01:30:21.780 He instructs them

01:30:22.620 exactly where to buy

01:30:23.940 a specific kind of wooden boat

01:30:25.600 to evade radar

01:30:26.520 and then, once again,

01:30:28.460 goes into the granular details

01:30:30.280 of his plan.

01:30:31.840 You guys can see here,

01:30:33.140 a maniacal individual, man.

01:30:34.300 He's over here, like,

01:30:35.080 literally on some 1.00

01:30:35.840 fucking evil doctor shit. 1.00

01:30:37.820 Dr. Evil shit. 1.00

01:30:39.380 Planning stuff out, man. 1.00

01:30:40.600 Has all different types of plans.

01:30:42.480 Need to carry

01:30:43.040 a large volume of explosives,

01:30:45.660 preferably placed

01:30:46.840 in an arch position

01:30:47.980 facing the vessel.

01:30:49.920 So he's not only telling them

01:30:51.420 what explosives to buy,

01:30:52.880 he's telling them

01:30:53.460 how to place the explosives.

01:30:54.960 In an arch position.

01:30:56.600 But his final plan to attack

01:30:58.220 seems to have been halted

01:30:59.420 by something he never saw coming.

01:31:03.040 The Arab Spring.

01:31:06.340 According to this family...

01:31:07.860 For some of you guys

01:31:08.420 that are wondering, right,

01:31:09.560 where did he kind of

01:31:10.500 have this idea from before?

01:31:12.020 Well, guys,

01:31:12.660 back in October 12th of 2000,

01:31:14.920 this little incident happened,

01:31:15.980 which is what Ali Soufan

01:31:17.700 was actually investigating,

01:31:19.660 was a USS Cole bombing, okay?

01:31:21.680 This happened,

01:31:22.460 a U.S. destroyer

01:31:22.980 en route to the Persian Gulf

01:31:23.820 was making a prearranged fuel slap

01:31:25.200 at the port of Aden, Yemen

01:31:26.140 when the attack occurred.

01:31:27.800 So Ali Soufan,

01:31:28.940 the FBI agent

01:31:29.420 that I showed you guys before

01:31:30.220 that doesn't really get along

01:31:31.180 with the CIA too well,

01:31:32.300 he was investigating

01:31:33.720 this bombing that occurred here

01:31:35.420 where basically a small vessel

01:31:38.080 went up to the USS Cole

01:31:39.540 and self-detonated

01:31:41.340 and killed a bunch of Navy men,

01:31:44.000 killing 17 sailors

01:31:45.640 and injuring nearly 40

01:31:47.540 other crew members, right?

01:31:49.040 So they were able to go ahead

01:31:50.380 and identify the bombing

01:31:51.460 of the USS Cole

01:31:52.140 as also tied to Al-Qaeda.

01:31:55.320 So that other terrorist attack

01:31:58.140 that you guys just heard about

01:31:59.480 with the boats

01:32:00.360 and putting them in explosives,

01:32:01.460 he's done it before,

01:32:02.480 USS Cole.

01:32:02.960 Wait, peaceful protests?

01:32:13.000 What is that?

01:32:13.920 What do you speak of?

01:32:16.340 No way.

01:32:18.700 There's no peace here, man. 1.00

01:32:20.360 We just blow shit up. 0.99

01:32:21.540 On one level, 0.99

01:32:24.180 they were very excited

01:32:25.260 by the fact

01:32:26.140 that the people

01:32:27.540 were able to bring down dictators.

01:32:30.160 But at the same time,

01:32:31.380 there were all these question marks

01:32:33.560 about what is the value

01:32:35.160 of jihad at the moment.

01:32:37.140 And we find this really

01:32:39.360 throughout this notebook.

01:32:42.400 Is jihad still necessary?

01:32:44.620 Lahoud says bin Laden,

01:32:46.020 seen here in the final months

01:32:47.480 of his life,

01:32:48.360 was struggling

01:32:49.100 with the answer to that question

01:32:50.560 before he was killed.

01:32:52.340 U.S. intelligence agencies

01:32:53.740 say most...

01:32:54.240 As you guys can see,

01:32:54.940 his beard was gray,

01:32:55.740 but when they killed him,

01:32:57.080 his beard was black,

01:32:58.080 dying to obviously

01:32:59.100 make his comeback

01:33:00.080 on Al Jazeera

01:33:01.120 on the TV

01:33:01.580 to make his threats

01:33:03.120 to the United States.

01:33:04.220 Most Al-Qaeda terrorist activity

01:33:05.740 is now being carried out

01:33:07.480 by smaller Al-Qaeda offshoots.

01:33:09.980 Bin Laden's second-in-command,

01:33:11.820 Ayman al-Zawarhi,

01:33:13.020 now heads Al-Qaeda.

01:33:15.860 This month,

01:33:16.820 he appeared in a new video

01:33:18.340 denouncing the enemies of Islam.

01:33:22.880 All right, 0.98

01:33:26.140 so I found the porno clip here

01:33:27.440 that Christina was referring to earlier,

01:33:29.480 right,

01:33:30.200 of how they sent clips

01:33:31.720 to each other

01:33:32.300 of pornography.

01:33:40.300 One set of files

01:33:41.320 seems particularly surprising.

01:33:46.020 The CIA said

01:33:47.080 there was a significant amount

01:33:48.140 of pornography found

01:33:49.000 on these computer drives.

01:33:50.680 What do you make of that?

01:33:51.860 Nowhere in the letters

01:33:52.780 are such materials requested.

01:33:55.180 And they didn't have internet,

01:33:56.160 so how could they really

01:33:57.020 be downloading it?

01:33:58.680 I don't know if Bin Laden

01:33:59.860 utilized that pornography,

01:34:02.140 but if he did,

01:34:02.960 it wouldn't surprise me.

01:34:04.540 Biology trumps ideology. 1.00

01:34:07.100 It's absolutely

01:34:07.740 That's facts.

01:34:08.560 Absolutely prohibited in...

01:34:11.200 But yeah,

01:34:11.900 according to Islamic faith,

01:34:12.880 it is prohibited,

01:34:13.520 and he did have four wives.

01:34:15.540 So, but you're going to see

01:34:16.480 why they had it.

01:34:17.980 Islam and I think

01:34:18.840 most faiths,

01:34:20.020 and I just want to point out

01:34:21.200 one really important point here.

01:34:23.140 Whether or not

01:34:24.140 they were watching porn

01:34:25.200 really doesn't concern me

01:34:26.600 that much

01:34:27.100 because they were also

01:34:28.260 killing people, 0.96

01:34:29.740 and that is far more 0.94

01:34:30.940 prohibited by...

01:34:31.940 Yeah, someone is actually

01:34:33.080 being logical here.

01:34:35.480 ...the Quran 0.73

01:34:36.280 than watching sex. 1.00

01:34:37.920 Yes, killing people 0.99

01:34:38.580 is forbidden by the Quran,

01:34:40.000 contrary to popular beliefs,

01:34:41.700 you know, coming from...

01:34:43.000 Well, not the best Muslim here, 1.00

01:34:44.220 but yes,

01:34:44.740 you don't kill innocent people, guys.

01:34:46.500 You know, even I know that rule.

01:34:49.360 We know that Al-Qaeda 0.99

01:34:50.640 used pornography

01:34:51.860 to send messages.

01:34:53.140 So, they embed

01:34:54.360 encrypted messages

01:34:55.460 in pornographic photos.

01:34:57.560 There are softwares

01:34:58.540 where you encrypt

01:34:59.560 a message

01:35:00.520 inside a pornographic video

01:35:03.180 or a pornographic picture.

01:35:05.460 When you have the code

01:35:06.560 on the other side,

01:35:08.020 that porn photo 0.78

01:35:09.100 is suddenly a message. 0.59

01:35:12.040 You don't need

01:35:12.780 to encrypt messages

01:35:13.680 or use couriers

01:35:14.500 if you're just planning

01:35:15.280 a quiet retirement.

01:35:16.940 He spent years on the run,

01:35:18.220 and Bin Laden believed

01:35:19.040 the best way for him

01:35:19.860 to reclaim the world stage

01:35:21.460 was either to repeat

01:35:22.540 or even improve upon

01:35:23.720 what he saw

01:35:24.320 as his greatest accomplishment.

01:35:26.640 So, there you have it.

01:35:27.640 They were using pornography

01:35:28.520 to communicate with each other.

01:35:30.260 Because Bin Laden 0.90

01:35:30.680 was a very religious guy, guys.

01:35:32.080 He prayed seven times a day.

01:35:33.300 He fasted two times a week.

01:35:34.460 I have more details on this

01:35:35.800 on the other podcast.

01:35:38.040 But, you know,

01:35:39.100 some other interesting,

01:35:39.920 notable mentions

01:35:40.560 that they found

01:35:41.120 in his hard drive

01:35:41.780 was they found a lot

01:35:42.460 of American cartoons

01:35:43.220 for the children.

01:35:43.880 They found a lot

01:35:45.100 of Bruce Lee movies.

01:35:46.580 He liked fast cars.

01:35:48.080 You know,

01:35:48.160 for a guy that hated

01:35:48.760 the United States,

01:35:49.300 he did consume

01:35:49.860 quite a bit of

01:35:50.560 American entertainment.

01:35:52.860 And, yeah,

01:35:54.260 I mean,

01:35:54.760 it's a very interesting look

01:35:56.600 into the life of Bin Laden.

01:35:58.480 Obviously,

01:35:58.880 a lot of home videos

01:36:00.080 with him and his children

01:36:01.540 and, you know, 1.00

01:36:03.720 just general shit 0.99

01:36:04.460 that you would find. 0.99

01:36:05.380 But I think the papers

01:36:06.260 of, like,

01:36:06.740 his further plots

01:36:07.820 and, you know,

01:36:08.740 where Al-Qaeda

01:36:09.380 kind of was at the time

01:36:10.480 during him hiding,

01:36:11.560 I think that's more,

01:36:12.740 that's a lot more important.

01:36:14.100 And then, obviously,

01:36:14.620 the fact that they were

01:36:15.340 using pornography

01:36:16.260 with encrypted messages

01:36:17.180 was a pretty smart idea.

01:36:19.700 But, yeah,

01:36:20.540 Christina,

01:36:20.840 any thoughts on the show?

01:36:22.900 No?

01:36:24.160 I'm just laughing right now.

01:36:25.860 Fantastic.

01:36:26.540 No, because, like,

01:36:27.060 I don't want to spill

01:36:27.860 nothing else

01:36:28.420 because we have, like,

01:36:29.640 another one, right?

01:36:31.340 Yeah, it's fine.

01:36:32.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:36:32.720 We got another one

01:36:33.660 where we're going to watch

01:36:34.240 the Conspiracy Theories.

01:36:36.200 So, but, yeah, guys,

01:36:37.880 hope you guys enjoyed

01:36:38.540 that one, man.

01:36:39.780 Next episode is going

01:36:40.960 to be on, you know,

01:36:42.260 covering the real Pearl Harbor.

01:36:44.620 I think it's a five-hour

01:36:45.320 documentary.

01:36:46.240 I'm still weighing out

01:36:47.180 if I'm going to do it live

01:36:48.740 or if I'm going to go ahead

01:36:50.060 and do it,

01:36:50.620 do it, what's it called,

01:36:53.180 on a prerecorded.

01:36:54.440 I might do it live.

01:36:55.160 Let's see what happens, guys.

01:36:56.380 But hope you guys

01:36:57.340 enjoyed that episode, man.

01:36:58.540 I'll catch you all

01:36:59.080 on the next episode of Fed It.

01:37:00.740 Peace.

01:37:03.720 I was a special agent

01:37:04.660 with Homeland Security Investigations,

01:37:05.700 okay, guys?

01:37:06.240 H-S-I. 0.99

01:37:07.060 The cases that I did

01:37:07.880 mostly were human smuggling

01:37:09.500 and drug trafficking.

01:37:12.180 No one else has

01:37:13.260 these documents, by the way.

01:37:14.420 Here's what Fed It covers.

01:37:16.240 Dr. Lafredo confirmed

01:37:17.720 lacerations

01:37:18.980 due to stepping

01:37:20.640 on glass.

01:37:22.440 Murder investigation.

01:37:23.240 information.

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