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01:25:57.200I can't even tell you how many conservatives, like, you know, CPC supporters I had this discussion
01:26:02.080with at various points over the last year.
01:26:04.980And I was like, yeah, like, the conservatives, you know, Pierre Poirier is up there, you know, defending Jordan Peterson's right to free speech.
01:26:14.440And then two weeks later, okay, this is this year, in 2023, okay, in the middle of January of 2023, Pierre Poirier is up there saying he will always defend Canadians' right to free speech.
01:26:28.000And then two weeks later, on the anniversary, I don't know, whatever it is, one of the 400,000 different, you know, Holocaust Memorial Days, or whatever it is, you know, Jewish Memorial Days, he's saying this conservative government introduced legislation to ban Holocaust denialism in Canada.
01:26:48.900He's bragging about how his party silenced free speech.
01:28:13.540Once you weren't allowed to have a certain opinion, like, you're not, hey, if you actually believe something happened in the past, and you're not allowed to express that, or else you're going to go to jail and you're going to be accused of trying to kill people?
01:29:03.680But if you go through with that, you're going to go to jail.
01:29:08.120You're going to be arrested for murder.
01:29:09.600Yet, these people think that they have, like, a monopoly on information, and then, like, some kind of weird godlike dictation that they could tell you that you're a bad person for thinking a certain thing.
01:30:08.820Well, I want to show you this lawyer here.
01:30:15.380In, like, some group chat, somebody showed him, someone shared one of his videos, and he's apparently got, like, a trilogy of free speech videos.
01:31:31.180Last week on Don't Talk TV, when I was discussing why I use Signal, ProtonMail, and Cash, I suggested that there's one particular group of people in Canada that need to be especially careful about their privacy, because they can be targeted just for happening to have some pride or some love for their own heritage.
01:31:53.900In the next few episodes, in fact, it'll end up being a trilogy culminating in a live broadcast where I'll be talking with Maxine Bernier, the leader of the People's Party.
01:32:00.060I want to drill down on that a bit more and look at acts that are objectively clearly hateful, that are not prosecuted, or not found to be hateful, and the sort of acts that are deemed to be hateful by our government.
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01:32:20.060Okay, so, you guys already know that this guy is epic, so, just preemptively, I'm going to drop his YouTube channel in the chat.
01:32:31.100In each chat, and I also got to read some super chats before we get further into this topic, because you guys have been very generous tonight.
01:33:12.680Well, I might just put on my armchair, get out my blade, and do a couple circumcisions myself, because Genstein just gave me $25, and I think I could afford it now.
01:34:08.100The most angry teacher next to a lefty.
01:34:12.340So, I guess he's trying to create a scenario where, um, it coincides with, like, the schizophrenic leftist view of what nuns were doing to these, to these Indian children, to these native children.
01:34:26.260Huh, huh, Yardstick Murders, like, because, you know, they would probably discipline them with straps and yardsticks.
01:34:33.340Like, that's probably what they're doing, and, um, hell, that happened to all kids.
01:34:39.720My dad told me a story about how, when he was growing up in Montreal, in a Catholic school, there was one retard kid, who, like, during this math test,
01:34:49.260like, the, like, the, the, the Catholic teacher, the nun, or the priest, or whoever it was, said,
01:34:56.340for every question you get wrong on this math test, you get a strap on your hand.
01:35:01.980And this fucking retard got 49 of the 50 questions wrong.
01:35:06.580And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry, I, my hand hurts after writing it.
01:35:11.840And they're like, okay, so we'll do all 50 straps, all 49 straps on the other hand.
01:35:17.380And, so, yeah, this shit happened to everybody.
01:35:22.620So, yes, you could make, like, some kind of horror story out of anything like that.
01:35:29.780And especially if you were dying from disease as well, as what happened all throughout the 20th century to people of all sorts.
01:35:47.380Were they beating kids to death with yardsticks?
01:35:50.880Guys, this sounds insensitive, but holy shit.
01:35:55.580What is really insensitive is the fact that they're, for one, making Indian children and Indian people, like, native people in general,
01:36:06.020thinking that they were part of such a sick genocide, that they were victims and hated that much.
01:36:10.700That's sick, for one, and two, and more importantly, framing white Christian Catholic or whatever else Canadians and, like, making them implicit in that kind of sick genocidal murder.
01:38:36.600Because if you throw out the offer, you know, to indigenous people, or you just float the idea, it's like, well, maybe the answer is to just, like, you know, truly let them be, you know, they have complete domain over their own reserves.
01:38:50.940Like, they own the land, they own the mineral rights, they are their own people, they have their own government, they have complete control, right, complete sovereignty over that territory.
01:39:00.040If you float that line out, it's not just, you know, the bleeding heart liberals that will oppose you on it, it's the native tribes themselves.
01:39:29.580Yeah, so, the reverse is the same as well.
01:39:32.300If you were to say, as white people, like, you know what, we don't really want to be part of this anymore, we'll go make our own reserves, and we'll just stay on them.
01:39:42.140That would also be opposed as, you know, some kind of, you know, white ethnostate that's completely inconceivable.
01:39:49.380So, really, what they want is they want white people to just do what they say, and they want them to be second-class citizens while they do it, but they want them to do everything for them.
01:40:01.620It's what it boils down to over and over again.
01:40:06.660South Africa is the perfect example of that.
01:40:09.020They don't actually want the white people to all leave.
01:40:11.040They don't actually want to genocide them all.
01:40:12.880They just want to terrorize them enough so that they're subservient, and they do everything that needs to be done for them to keep the state running while having none of the power, essentially.
01:42:23.040But again, it's like, like I said earlier, it has to go one way.
01:42:27.240Either we stop this kind of like, I don't know what you would call it, like this toxic parental relationship that we have with them, where it's like somehow our responsibility to make sure that their reserves are like, you know, suitable living standard.
01:42:48.360Or we need to just admit that like this, the reserve idea and them having sovereignty is, you know, untenable, and that it just shouldn't exist.
01:42:57.520And that these municipalities or whatever, the reserves, the treaty territory should be turned into municipalities like any other and treated as such.
01:43:11.040Like, yeah, you try to help them in any way.
01:43:16.420And either way, you're just going to get denigrated.
01:43:21.860You're not going to get anywhere with them.
01:43:24.580It has to go completely one way or the other.
01:43:27.440This kind of middle of the road, like I said, either you have complete sovereignty over your own territory, and you take total responsibility for it.
01:43:38.000And basically, you're your own little nation, right?
01:43:40.960And we're not going to, we're not going to pay for it anymore.
01:43:43.480Like you run your own, like, like you would run your own county or municipality, you run that reserve.
01:43:50.400And don't come asking the federal government to pay for, you know, whatever your clean water, like you guys got to figure it out.
01:43:56.980Or two, you give up that kind of quasi-sovereignty that you have, and you become a county or jurisdiction like any other where the federal government has say in what's going on on your land, where the provincial government has a say in how your land is used, and you receive the benefits of being part of that federal system, that provincial system.
02:05:54.580What do you think they're doing when they slaughter each other's villages?
02:05:57.760Whether it's the natives in Canada, the First Nations, they were slaughtering each other brutally all the time.
02:06:06.160Nobody's hurt more natives than other native tribes.
02:06:10.140And especially over there in Africa, too.
02:06:12.380So, Africa, or the Arabs, especially, when they would enslave the Africans, they would cut off their testicles and penises and demasculate them.
02:07:22.880You know, it's even, like, an even better way to say that is not necessarily the fact that he, you know, is, what is it?
02:07:28.620It's, like, one in seven or something.
02:07:30.060You know, modern Asians have a direct lineage to Genghis Khan.
02:07:34.880The fact that he fucking genocided people and people will bring this up and be, like, you guys are, you guys are idolizing somebody who committed, like, you know, maybe up to 100 million murders.
02:07:46.400Like, at his command, like, 100 million people were murdered.
02:07:49.180And they'll be, like, yeah, that's fucking based.
02:08:39.300But Mongolia, they don't have that much.
02:08:41.360However, what they do have is a sense of identity and a sense of themselves.
02:08:46.460And they're not going to get fucked around by people.
02:08:48.680But the reason I bring that up, though, is because, like, if you're Macedonian or, you know, Greek as well, I guess, also have this, you know, fascination with Alexander the Great.
02:09:22.260So, it's like, it's interesting because distance also allows you to all of a sudden take pride in something that would otherwise.
02:09:28.660Like, for example, if Julius Caesar existed in the year 1700 and he had genocided, you know, a whole bunch of Libyans, that would be like a shameful moment in Italian history, right?
02:09:39.700But because it was 2,000 years ago, all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, Julius Caesar was fucking heckin' based, man.
02:09:46.160That guy conquered the shit out of everything, right?
02:09:49.100All of a sudden, it becomes something that's morally acceptable to take pride in.
02:09:56.400Like, this idea, again, it's like, the crazy thing about it is because of Enlightenment liberal values that came in, you know, the mid-1700s and, you know, eventually became, you know, the abolitionist movement and the, you know, the reconciliation type movement, like these types of things.
02:10:15.100It's literally the people that did the conquering that are the ones who are like, yeah, maybe this was not, you know, a very noble thing to do.
02:10:23.020It literally, the morality of it literally comes from the oppressor, the so-called oppressor, right?
02:10:28.020And then they take this up and they champion it and they use it as a weapon against the people who were like, yeah, we shouldn't have done this.
02:10:34.800And then they're like, yeah, you shouldn't have.
02:10:38.200It's like, well, maybe, I guess we should have genocided you then?
02:10:41.740Like, is that what you, is that what you really want?
02:10:43.880Like, the whole idea, like, again, like, residential schools, that was like the liberal concept.
02:10:48.380Like, again, like, let's hammer this home.
02:10:49.980That was like the idea of like, this is the way that we can fix this, this problem without, you know, completely destroying these people.
02:10:59.140This is the way that we can integrate and assimilate and work together.
02:11:02.600Like that was like, whether or not it was fucked up in practice doesn't, doesn't diminish the fact that the attempt itself was kind of a noble one.
02:11:18.120I think part of it is that like the nobility of the morality of this Western society, it led to a sort of altruism.
02:11:30.440And this altruism had like, had a weakness to it.
02:11:34.400And, and eventually this weakness, this altruism, this wanting to believe that anybody could be a part of this idea and making it like straying it from a peoples into an idea that everybody could be a part of.
02:11:49.340Once you allowed the idea to be a part of it, then foreign groups got involved and then they subverted these ideas and, um, they were much more cunning.
02:12:01.960They were much less altruistic and it, it, it really closed the gap between collectivism and individualism and individualism and individualism died out.
02:12:13.680And we could see how it's going right now.
02:12:15.440And I don't think that any of these specific ideologies are necessarily immoral or moral.
02:12:24.600I think what we're looking at here is reality.
02:12:26.840And what, what the groups that have taken over and that have subverted our reality to make us all individuals and to also collectivize on their behalf and then get everybody else to attack us.
02:12:45.240I think that, um, sorry, I didn't even know where I was going with that.
02:12:49.900I just have, I have a random, one other thing to add here too, is so, I mean, I, I've, uh, read and, and listened to the entire Sherlock Holmes series like multiple times.
02:13:01.260And I started, uh, re-listening to the audio books because I have a lot of more driving to do now.
02:13:08.160And, uh, if you want some, you know, based and red pill, uh, fiction to read or listen to, and you have never read the Sherlock Holmes stories,
02:13:18.280have a listen to them or, or read them.
02:13:23.080And it's like, it's such an interesting, like, if you're a fan of history, like looking back at how, like, uh, you know, the, the British looked at the late colonial period is fascinating.
02:13:32.240Cause there's a lot of like little history woven into those, you know, mystery stories.
02:13:37.540Like there, there's some, some base content in those books.
02:13:41.360I'm surprised they haven't been banned yet and, and, and naming, naming the J too.
02:13:56.340No, we went off and even my thing that I didn't finish, I think I said a lot of stuff, even though I didn't have a point to bring it home to.
02:14:04.460I think it was making some good points there.
02:14:06.480How do the courts deal with cases when a white person is the victim of an apparent race-based attack?
02:14:13.140I have here a case from the Provincial Court of Alberta from 2016 on this topic.
02:14:17.060Her Majesty the Queen and Tamara Crow Chief.
02:14:19.600And you can find the link for this in the show description as always.
02:14:22.200The facts are summarized in the introduction.
02:14:24.160The offender, Tamara Crow Chief, pleaded guilty to assault causing bodily harm to Lydia White in three counts of breaching recognizance.
02:14:30.200She admits that on November the 1st, 2015, while bound by recognizance, she was outside a Southwest Calgary pub with two friends.
02:14:35.720It was about 9 p.m., a time when the offender was to be in her residence.
02:14:38.540The victim, White, came out of the pub with a friend.
02:14:41.660One of the offender's friends approached White's friend and asked for a cigarette.
02:14:44.520White's friend obliged and began a conversation.
02:14:46.980Suddenly, the offender came up to White, yelled, quote, I hate white people, unquote, and punched White in the mouth.
02:14:52.740The blow knocked out one of White's front teeth.
02:14:55.220And when Ms. Crow Chief was booked, she told police that, quote, the white man was out to get her, end quote.
02:15:01.100What did the judge have to say about this?
02:15:02.880He reviewed a number of cases where courts found that racial hatred was a motivation.
02:15:07.720So, for example, the Queen and Sims, the accused acted on his neo-Nazi philosophy and targeted the victim for his victim's supposedly pro-Semitic views.
02:15:14.960Another case here, Her Majesty the Queen and Van Brunt, the armed accused targeted a black person unknown to them.
02:15:20.740Both before and during the assault, they used a number of racial slurs.
02:15:23.340There was little else said in the course of the one-minute-long assault.
02:15:25.660Her Majesty the Queen and Verdoliak, the accused, and two others were verbally abusing an elderly woman on a Toronto transit bus.
02:15:31.220They were tattooed with neo-Nazi symbols.
03:03:26.680the law says it's a collection of spurious
03:03:30.260legally incorrect ideas that superficially
03:03:32.200sound like law and purport to be real law
03:03:34.120in layman's terms pseudo law is pure nonsense
03:03:36.500uh he looks at another case galati in canada
03:03:39.240that's the federal court so it says magna
03:03:41.820carta is not a constitutional instrument while
03:03:43.840its seminal place in the development of our
03:03:45.380constitutional legal principles is well known
03:03:47.080do you mean that the law from 1200 is not
03:03:52.160legally applicable to uh your current case in
03:03:57.0002020 it technically is it's technically part of the british constitution which which makes it part of canadian law but again it's i forget i always forget this uh i'm glad that travis
03:04:11.920patrone had that oversight to correct them right yeah yeah i i i just i forget what this is called i i i've brought it up a few times but it's like uh it's something to uh it's like a legal term in westminster
03:04:27.240parliamentary style democracy which is like uh this the spirit of the law right so
03:04:34.360the spirit of the law is more important than the technicalities of the law in in like a westminster you know in english common law so it's basically like basically what i'm saying is the current laws
03:04:48.100are the ones that are in effect and the older laws that may be still on the books but no longer apply because there's new laws that supersede it that are just kind of there but like they're not necessarily defunct but they're not in practice so it's like
03:05:01.940when when people are trying to bring up the magnet yeah the magna carta doesn't apply anymore because we have different constitutions it's like a good example this is like so the canadian bill of rights still exists
03:05:12.760right but the charter of rights and freedoms takes precedent over the bill of rights like they're both part of our constitution but nobody references the bill of rights anymore it's it's like a defunct document
03:05:24.480like it's just that that's how our law works we write new laws over top of old ones and the old ones are kind of you know no longer put to use this happens over and over again
03:05:36.880okay well i'm gonna play more of this uh video i've watched it already yeah i need to go to the
03:05:44.660washroom but like this will give a lot more context this is really good information for everybody though
03:05:50.780by the legislation of westminster and parliament it goes through a number of other cases i'm not going to go
03:05:55.120through all these otherwise this video will be half an hour long but as we see i wish i could from these
03:05:59.300decisions i conclude that mr patroon's reliance on the magna carta is misplaced as important as it is
03:06:04.380historically in the development and expansion of rights and freedoms we now take for granted it has
03:06:09.040been supplanted by modern law and even if it hadn't been supplanted by modern law mr patroon is not the
03:06:14.740church of england he's not the roman catholic church he's not a cleric of the roman catholic church
03:06:19.380so he can't claim immunity from the law by the provisions that he was citing there now as i said
03:06:27.080this went to a jury the jury convicted him apparently his defense was you can't prove i was talking about the
03:06:33.760jews as well as a bunch of his pseudo law nonsense which the court of appeal mentions he was trying
03:06:41.860to talk about that and upset that the trial judge didn't instruct the jury on that but now we have
03:06:47.520the sentencing decision so let's look at what happened there because i think that's important
03:06:51.540as well so we look down starting at paragraph 19 the court points out the maximum penalty under section
03:06:57.100319 is two years imprisonment and that there's no sentencing range or starting point established by the
03:07:02.160court of appeal for saskatchewan he notes that the crown attorney is asking for a year in jail and
03:07:06.640then looks for a number of decisions here's the queen in creplin 2021 oncj 19 so 2021 decision from
03:07:15.940ontario an individual put up some posters that were promoting hatred against jewish and black people
03:07:23.700and the two accused 23 years old no prior criminal record court sentence both meant to conditional
03:07:29.380sentences of six months of house arrest and two years probation with 240 hours of community service
03:07:34.300arrest queen and sears 2019 oncj two accused are found guilty for promoting hatred against jews and
03:07:41.220women arising from publications in a community newsletter mr sears was given six months on each
03:07:47.100count and mr germain who is 78 and poor health was sentenced to 18 months probation court looked at a
03:07:54.200couple other case from bc topham elderly individual seven years old six months of house arrest mr patrone
03:08:01.200declined to speak or answer questions at the sentencing hearing the court went on to talk about how this is
03:08:07.460such a serious crime willful promotion of hatred is a serious offense because it attacks and undermines
03:08:12.880tolerance tolerance is both a virtue and a basic canadian value then at paragraph 62 the court says taking
03:08:19.080all the factors and circumstances into account i conclude that the sentence recommended by the crown
03:08:23.360of one year imprisonment is appropriate however i will limit the following term of probation to one
03:08:28.080year rather than two years requested the one year sentence was upheld by the court of appeal although
03:08:32.800he had already served the entire sentence by that point so it was a bit moot but i think it's important
03:08:38.480to be aware of what type of sentences are starting to be handed down for these cases as we looked
03:08:44.900last week if you're attacking people of european ancestry you may not be worried about getting a
03:08:54.420one-year jail sentence but if you do a video like what mr patrone did you can be assured that you'll
03:09:00.380be getting a sentence in that range so that is something very important to keep in to keep in mind
03:09:06.420now right so i kind of missed what was going on here but i know that he made a video for the
03:09:13.340canadian nationalist party where he said that he wanted to expel the parasitic tribe and like from
03:09:20.000what i gather his defense was ma magna carta sovereign citizen bullshit but then also that he wasn't trying
03:09:29.920to kill people like with the his incitement to hatred charge so yeah like it's just so retarded
03:09:38.260because like yes uh i understand he probably meant jews when he was talking about the parasitic tribe
03:09:45.160but when i think about like the act of parasitism like being parasitical like i think of an act and i
03:09:53.880don't think of people like on a biological level i think if you're like facilitating an act and yes
03:10:01.700there's lots of different groups that help facilitate those acts so you need to call them out
03:10:06.240right so i'm not like somebody who's gonna call like tell somebody that they're bad based on the
03:10:12.320way that they're born and i think maybe he could have made that argument if that's what he meant if
03:10:18.500if that's not what he meant and he really just does hate jews as a people then maybe he could be
03:10:24.360contravening that law i don't know i really don't know but like he definitely didn't do himself any
03:10:30.200service by acting like a fucking crazy person and implying magna fucking carta like the 1200s come on
03:10:39.820man like and and i'm not saying that he needs to like buy into like the lawyer game and uh buy the
03:10:49.520most expensive free speech lawyer that is afforded to him that he could possibly get and crowdfund that
03:10:55.900it's just like he could have done so much better just by being more sensical and like actually
03:11:04.480looking at law and being smart yeah um it's funny too because right after you left and you played that
03:11:13.560clip he literally said exactly uh or sorry the document said literally exactly what i said like
03:11:20.060the the magna carta is supplanted by you know these documents like it's no longer it's defunct
03:11:24.940i mean i could tell you that in one second like i know but it's like that's the way the system works
03:11:32.460is like yeah we have old laws that are still on the books but they're no longer in practice
03:11:37.020you can't just cite like the fucking like something from the 1700s is being you know in no i'm sure he has
03:11:44.420an argument against you saying that like oh but there's this one specific thing that they said
03:11:51.080here that said but ifsy keepsies is like if you do the oopsie whoopsies and you go over here and
03:11:58.720then it's just like what the fuck did you just say and like these guys will go on for a never-ending
03:12:04.220tangent where they're always right fucking retards narcissists i don't know what to call them like
03:12:12.560i i sympathize with them because they don't want to be persecuted but hell man you can't help
03:12:20.180somebody who's just being too retarded bombing frog has a great point here again which is he says
03:12:27.680they used a law from the 1200s against zundell the anti-white standard yes they will use old laws to
03:12:36.140prosecute you but if you try to use old laws to defend yourself it won't work which is exactly the
03:12:42.240point i was trying to make before it doesn't fucking matter what the law is ultimately what
03:12:47.140matters is if if you can enforce the law and so yeah they're gonna they're gonna have a it's like
03:12:53.680we talked about last night it's not a double standard it's the standard yeah it's the standard
03:12:59.300okay you guys do you guys want a historical red pill right now about the earned zundell trial
03:13:04.920i don't know it might get us uh fucking both arrested immediately before you do that though
03:13:10.820okay there's there's two really good examples of this in america recently one is the burning with
03:13:18.200the intent to intimidate which is a pretty old law that is you know it was created basically for the
03:13:24.700the kkk right burning crosses on on black people's front yards or whatever and it was used against the
03:13:32.740unite the right march guys the tiki torch march guys right so like that's a good example another good
03:13:38.740one is apparently the democrats want to use language from the 14th amendment which basically if i
03:13:45.680understand it correctly it basically restricted certain confederate politicians from being able to
03:13:52.180run for president because they were uh insurrectionists i think is the word that's used
03:13:58.740in so basically if you tried to lead an insurrection against the u.s government you can't uh run for
03:14:05.260president and they're trying to say that trump the january 6th up he tried to lead an insurrection
03:14:10.740against the u.s government therefore he's not fit to run for presidency so again trying to use these
03:14:17.260really old defunct laws school laws defunct laws can i bring back some old laws like you can't sell
03:14:24.440fudge after 7 p.m yeah in wisconsin or that women have to wear the scolds bridal if their husband uh
03:14:33.300uh says that they're being uh an insufferable nag i don't know yeah so like the but these are
03:14:41.720examples right like that's not going to be used against their side it's not going to be used against
03:14:47.360it's going to be used against outsiders so