The EdgeStream - Moratorium May and Our War on Drugs (2023-05-02)
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3 hours and 6 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of The Edge Stream, we celebrate the life and career of the late rapper M.O.A.R.K.I.E. with special guests Harry Balzac and John Pladsmith. We discuss the evolution of the music industry, the rise and fall of the rap industry, and the impact of drugs on the culture.
Transcript
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And we are, of course, celebrating Moratorium May.
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Well, I think they represented two different sides of some eras, you know, and of personal development, right?
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Right when the world, a whole generation of people turned to drugs all of a sudden, you know, you think there might be somebody behind it when you think of how crazy it all became all of a sudden.
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And then, you know, the older rock stars turning a new leaf and, you know, giving it up and maturing.
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And I feel like a lot of us are going through that in some ways.
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And that's what we're going to talk about tonight.
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And I feel like I'm probably going to give them like a good rap in many ways, just because I grew up idealizing them.
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I feel like there's something primal about it that really, like, hits your core.
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It's something within music that they really tapped into something.
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But, you know, I don't idealize these fucking retarded rappers, obviously.
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Like, the new generation of rappers is mind-numbingly destroyed on drugs.
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Like, it's to a new level where they're not even selling the drugs anymore and rapping about it.
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Here, I'm going to write a hit rap song right now.
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A little bit of autotune and a touch of reverb and delay.
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But I feel like the conversation is just going to flow.
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If anybody wants to donate and steer the conversation at all in any way with something relevant or just contribute to the show, feel free to do that on Entropy.
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We got John Pladsmith in the chat who actually joined me for a good stream last week.
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If you were wondering where it went, it got taken down for, like, almost a week.
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They gave me a strike for 2020 election misinformation.
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And then they got back to me saying, after reviewing your video, we realized that it did not have any nudity.
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Seems like the bots are working good over there.
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If this video gets taken down, you know where you can find it on Rumble or on Odyssey, which is where we are live, too.
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I just looked at your shirt, too, and realized.
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It must be something to do with the green screen.
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Well, anyways, I feel like we should get into just some community news first before we get into Moratorium May.
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Of course, our good friend Shane, a.k.a. Pebbles Marshall, was in court this Monday, and I went to go watch his court case.
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And he was supposed to have a sentencing, and they read their statements, including the victim impact statement,
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in which there was none because Trudeau didn't have to answer for anything or show up in court because, of course, he has parliamentary privilege.
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But Shane actually put together just a little clip on his Instagram to kind of recap from the news what happened.
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...promise men who pled guilty to throwing gravel at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during an election campaign stop here in London.
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26-year-old Shane Marshall yelled, Canada first.
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Moments earlier, inside, the court heard how the former People's Party of Canada official acted on the day Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a 2021 election campaign stop in East London,
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which turned into a protest. At one point, gravel was thrown at the PM.
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Marshall's lawyer, Luke Reedy, said, the act of throwing stones was impulsive.
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He continued, Shane Marshall understands what he did was wrong.
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Originally charged with assault with a weapon, in March, Marshall pled guilty to the lesser charge of assault.
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Reedy asked that he receive a suspended sentence.
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There's no premeditation. He didn't plan to go out there and assault anybody.
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He's remorseful. He's accepting responsibilities for his actions.
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When Crown Attorney Jeremy Carnegie addressed the sentencing hearing,
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saying this type of violence must be deterred and denounced.
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but I was able to contain myself because, you know,
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When me and Lee went, and a bunch of other people,
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including Colbert's mom and Greg and a bunch of other people
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last time we went, some lady kept spurging out in the courtroom,
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I think people thought she got, like, arrested for that,
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But yeah, we wanted to put on our best behavior for Shane in the courtroom.
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this is not about politics or Shane Marshall's politics,
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followed by, this is an assault on our democracy.
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says the word democracy about 20 times in a row.
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the white, trying to be the white Martin Luther King at this point.
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He continued, the right to protest should stop before we get to violence.
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Now, I told him not to shitpost until after he gets his sentence,
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Well, so he's facing a weapons ban, too, right?
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or is this because it's a politically charged case?
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Oh, I just wanted to know if you had it or not.
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Of course they affectionately call him Pebbles.
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but they don't want that to be set as the precedent,
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that if you throw something at the prime minister,
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you're just going to walk away with community service,
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I understand why they're doing what they're doing.
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he'd have rocks thrown at his train and his cars.
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that they can get away with this kind of thing.
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So they want to send a message with this for sure.
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and they specifically referred to the pie throwing.
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And they said that the intent was to humiliate,
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And the prosecutor was saying that the rocks are,
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If you're going to throw shit at the prime minister,
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And what about the egg incident with Maxime Bernier?
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Yeah, well, that was because Max is a fucking Chad
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and was like, no, I don't want to press charges.
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And so has Prime Minister Macron ever filed charges
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because at first he never even felt the pebbles hit him.
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And then it wasn't until he got off his campaign bus
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JL Plattsmith there in these comments is a great one.
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Did they have like a bag of the pebbles that were thrown?
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They did have evidence of like his hockey stick
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That we saw them bringing into court at the one time.
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Whether there was pebbles in there, I don't know.
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However, I have seen on Twitter that she's getting absolutely lit up.
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She's become the biggest lull cow in the country.
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Rachel's just getting, you know, mine for lulls.
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Is he going to get any kind of like community service?
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I would think that they would add community service on top of a jail sentence.
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And that's something that Shane wanted to do anyways.
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You know, it would be like the biggest Chad move that Shane could pull is when the judge
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is like, we sentence you to 150 community service hours.
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He just like starts arguing with the judge about not getting enough.
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I think right now he's fighting for, to get the ankle monitor and do like the supervised
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So, uh, right now it's kind of a mix between other 30 days in jail, which I think Shane
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The guy falls asleep on my floor like this, just within like two minutes.
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Do you guys remember the dude who threw gravel at the prime minister?
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Well, he pled guilty to an assault charge and is going to be sentenced next week.
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But did you know who he's been hanging out with?
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A man spoke in court on Monday where he apologized and said.
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Still, the crown is looking to sentence him to 30 days in custody and they're seeking a 10-year weapons prohibition, but the defense wants a one-year suspended sentence.
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During which time he can attend counseling for impulse control and anger management.
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But far fewer people know who the gravel thrower has been hanging out with.
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He's appeared on live streams affiliated with the far-right extremist group.
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So amazing picture of the high IQ Shane playing chess.
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Extremism researchers have raised the alarm about these groups.
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Mostly because of what their rants and live streams could inspire their followers to do.
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My initial takeaway, and I even left a comment on her TikTok about this, is she can't string a sentence together that's more than five words before cutting it.
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She thinks she's one of these weird, I mean, there's more and more of them all the time now.
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She thinks that because she has a university education and she did lots of book learning, that makes her smart.
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Makes an absolute lull cow of herself constantly.
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And honestly, she couldn't stand up to anybody in, like, reasoned debate.
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Like, what that would look like in, like, a long-form debate where you don't get to, like, hide in your Twitter comments, where you actually have to engage the person?
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Like you said, she can't string together a sentence that's more than five words without needing to edit on TikTok.
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Like, she couldn't do this type of, this kind of format, let alone, like, a direct confrontation.
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She can't even say a whole sentence without a cut.
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Like, it's not hard to memorize a whole thought without having to crop yourself onto the other side of the screen between, like, three words.
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And I think that's why they put her on TikTok, because on TikTok, you can get away with that, right?
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Like, I think they purposefully put her there for that reason.
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Regardless, though, it's just hilarious that, like, she's not even getting paid to do this anymore.
00:26:23.780
Yeah, I feel like she's really trying to grab her attention, so she's diving into the, oh, I'm a journalist covering extremism.
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But she's also trying to bait the horror comments so she could ramp up her narrative of being, like, the female journalists are being attacked by extremists.
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And then hopefully some mainstream media outlet will simp for her and give her a job as some sort of feminist hero.
00:26:49.920
She's trying to bait it with these fucking lingerie photos, and she's trying to bait you.
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But it's, I don't think you're going to get a job by getting made fun of and becoming a laughingstock.
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I couldn't believe whenever I saw that photo, I was like, really?
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You dress the part for the position that you want.
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You just put this out on the internet knowing exactly how people are going to, you just, like, zero foresight at all, right?
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After that lingerie photo, I think she might be on a downward spiral.
00:27:27.760
Oh, it was, that whole sequence was hilarious with her, Jordan Peterson.
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Just, she also, she also had a violent post earlier, either it was yesterday or today, that she deleted because she realized that it could be perceived as a death threat, which is hilarious.
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She posted a thing, I forget how, what it was worded or what it was even about.
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I think it was something to do with transphobes.
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It was, like, me taking on all the blue checkmark transphobes.
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And it was, like, some, like, I think it was a photo from Zombieland, like, the first one, where he's in the game booth with the gates down and pointing, like, pistols out of the gates at the zombies coming.
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But it was, it's just funny watching them, you know, self-police.
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Like, oh my god, this could be perceived as a, they're saying this is a death threat?
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She's, like, you could just go there day after day and mine for lulls.
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But I think it's hilarious though too, because it's just like, you know, you, you make fun of her for a little bit.
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And I, like, you know, I go to the comments and on that Shane Marshall video, she posted on Twitter.
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And it's all like, I heard you, it's, it's, she's just getting roasted.
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And like, I just see a bunch that are like, I hear you give $10 blowjobs now.
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I'll just go back to doing, you know, important things now or things that, you know, I actually care about.
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Oh, it was like 95% negative, you know, feedback.
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Like, she's going to eventually block everybody who makes a rude comment about her and then she'll have no followers left.
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Except for maybe some orbiters or white knights or something.
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There were some good, there were some good zingers in those comments too.
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Like you said, it's just like every once in a while, she's just something extremely cringe.
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It catches our attention again, you know, make fun of her.
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And then, you know, every few months, the cycle repeats.
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Yeah, I mean, like, look, she's absolutely hated.
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She's basically like Dylan Mulvaney, but uglier at this point.
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But I didn't even know who she was until, like, she went after Jeremy or whatever and everyone started roasting her.
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So it's kind of like, you know, Diagalon made her popular.
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I think she's, like, doubled her followers probably based off of just, you know, writing articles about Diagalon and everyone just roasting her.
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Well, I guess she's found her niche and she's going to keep on milking it.
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But, uh, I think that's enough attention for Rachel for now.
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I think we should try to get Rachel involved with Moratorium May and see if we can get her to quit Zoloft.
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You're going to have to wean yourself off of that.
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If you get yourself off of that stuff too quickly, you'll get fucking weird withdrawals and brain zaps.
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It goes to show how good that stuff is for you, you know?
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Now, I believe you coined the term, Lee, and it was maybe a stream two weeks ago where you were railing, you, Ferryman, were railing against dope culture and drinking culture in Canada and how it's become, like, a staple, part of our identity, basically.
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Like, Trailer Park Boys, when I was growing up in high school, like, it was cool to get blackout drunk because you were like Ricky, right?
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Well, I was fucking blackout last night, you know?
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Like, doing something stupid like that, you could chalk it up to, like, our cultural icons like Trailer Park Boys at the time.
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Think about all Hollywood movies that, you know, or just, you know, I mean, Hollywood, I guess, is fine.
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But all Hollywood movies that are directed at, you know, teenagers and people in their young 20s, just think about what they all revolve around.
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Whether it's things like, you know, when I was growing up, Superbad, right?
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Is them getting, you know, the whole movie is about them trying to get liquor illegally so they can get girls drunk and fuck them.
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Like, that was a hilarious movie, but it's also kind of like, when you look into the subtext, Devin Stack is very good at this.
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He's done this kind of breakdown for a ton of movies about how subversive Hollywood is.
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And, like, while it may be funny on the surface, the messages that it's pushing.
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Harold and Kumar, like, you guys are going to be doing this all night, guys.
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When you said Superbad, yeah, Superbad, that was right before I got into grade 9.
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And, you know, you'd hear about people going to parties.
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And I'd never been to a party where people were freely drinking alcohol, like, out in the open at that point.
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So, seeing something like Superbad, it was like, wow, this is what I have to look forward to.
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Like, you can list, like, all those teen movies, you know, they focus on, like, you know, drinking and drug culture and they glorify it.
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So, yeah, I would say it's a psyop, this glorification of drinking and dope culture.
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And, honestly, I think Trailer Park Boys is a bad example of that because I don't think Trailer Park Boys does glorify it.
00:34:10.540
Maybe incidentally, but Trailer Park Boys is actually a black comedy.
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I mean, the whole point of it is, like, yeah, it's funny, but it's, like, dude, their lives are miserable.
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Like, everything, it's a very black comedy when you think about it.
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But I think a kid, like, my generation watching it, I don't think we really saw it that way.
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But, yeah, you are right when you look back at it.
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Their whole lives revolve around getting drunk or high and going to jail and doing crime.
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They're also huge cocks that we've discovered, so fuck them.
00:34:57.200
Well, I would say, okay, what is your guys' experience with drugs?
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I'm sure that we're all coming from maybe slightly different backgrounds.
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I didn't really drink much in high school, and I definitely didn't do drugs until I got to university.
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Well, some of you may know that I was on the University of Guelph football team, and then I had too many concussions, and I quit.
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And I immediately just got into drinking and smoking dope instead of playing football.
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And then I spent the next four years of my life, five years of my life, just smoking weed and drinking and barely, you know, just getting by in my university education, doing the bare minimum to get my fucking degree.
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So, yeah, it was a complete waste of my early 20s.
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And, I mean, I guess some of that education has come in handy recently.
00:36:02.220
But the poli sci in history has a little bit more of, you know, meaning in these days than it did 10 years ago.
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Do you think you really took in, like, the stuff that you learned from poli sci?
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And, yeah, I did take a lot of it in because I'm not a moron.
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So, like, I mean, I wasn't trying very hard to get good grades because I was always drinking and getting high.
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I just wasn't interested in doing seminar, you know, papers and seminar papers, term papers and essays and fucking, you know, seminar assignments and whatnot.
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Like, I was, I was, sorry, I was one of those university students that, like, didn't do, like, half the assignments and only did the, like, the major term papers and the, like, the midterm and the final.
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I skipped all those, like, 3%, you know, assignments that you'd get.
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They only account for, like, 30% of your grade.
00:37:19.320
Hey, well, to a certain extent, like, unless you're trying to get a job right from university where your grades really do matter that much into getting that job.
00:37:29.980
Like, just passing seems good enough and getting more extracurricular stuff on the side and actually learning things.
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Like, I know that I was majoring in film studies and philosophy.
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And if I were to get, like, really good marks in that, unless I was going to law school or something or something where I would need good marks, it didn't really matter that much.
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But even then, like you said, I spent so much time being obsessed with wanting to go to parties, getting fucked up, and wanting to do different kinds of psychedelic drugs.
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However, I did retain a lot of the information that I learned from, like, philosophy and film studies.
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Now, I wouldn't be able to apply it right away to, like, writing some paper, but all those things seeped into me.
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So, I learned about logical fallacies and how to debate, how to argue, how to think about things clearly, like, to know what makes sense and what doesn't.
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So, all these things definitely did combine into what I'm doing now.
00:38:35.400
But, yeah, definitely all of the drinking and the drugs, it definitely wasted a lot of time.
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And I could have been here a lot sooner and been more successful had I not done that.
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But, however, did I need to go through that and learn that lesson in order for this to all come about?
00:38:59.260
Well, I think everyone goes through that time period, right?
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It's, like, university is always known for partying and going through that phase.
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Time to put on your big boy pants and get a job and, you know, start adulting at some point.
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But the reality is, is some people don't make it out.
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It becomes an addiction or, you know, they rely on it.
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Somehow I escaped not drinking throughout my entire life, like, through high school, everything.
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It's something that has never really appealed to me.
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I mean, I've seen other people go through, like, pretty dark paths, down dark paths.
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And it's not something that I saw myself wanting to do.
00:39:53.300
It's the whole abstinence approach to it, right?
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Like, don't want to bother even trying it because I might like it and then end up down that dark path.
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And, you know, a lot of my friends were like, I want to see you drunk.
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And, like, you know, everyone wanted to be the first one to get me drunk.
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But I missed out on a lot of parties because my friends were like, I don't think you'd be interested in coming.
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Or, you know, because you don't drink or stuff like that.
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But, yeah, it's just not something that's really appealed to you.
00:40:36.700
Yeah, well, you're not going to get hooked if you don't try it.
00:40:46.120
Well, I know I started out probably around 12 or 13 years old.
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And it definitely aligned with me looking for something more.
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And I think me finding out or starting to realize that everything that you learn about, like, God in the Bible may not exactly be literal.
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And then I was looking to and idealizing things that could be transcendent.
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And that definitely made me start to think that weed was really cool.
00:41:28.680
So I found out that, oh, wait, the Earth is actually not 10,000 years old.
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And, like, you could find a direct lineage back to Adam and Eve.
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Like, I had taken all these things for granted before that.
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And then, like, from going on the Internet and just learning things, I realized, like, oh, wait.
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So the Earth is actually billions of years old.
00:42:00.560
And I wanted to have some sort of transcendence, some kind of otherworldliness.
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And then at the same time, I found out that, oh, you're not just going to automatically die if you smoke weed.
00:42:13.040
Because I thought you would die off weed when I was, like, maybe 10 or 11.
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And then when I was 12, I found out no one's ever died from weed before, like, from an overdose.
00:42:38.960
Look at this red ensign crew we got going on here.
00:42:47.740
No, I was listening to some of the conversation.
00:42:53.660
What, Ferry, what you described is exactly, you're explaining it.
00:43:01.860
But really, it was about, you know, when am I going to get high or drunk next and whatever.
00:43:12.540
Thankfully, I went to college, too, where I got more hands-on experience.
00:43:33.580
I'm sure we'll have some great conversations to follow about all of this with you here, too.
00:43:42.560
Well, you've been public about your sobriety for the last, like, many years, right?
00:43:48.880
So I think you'd have a lot to contribute to this conversation.
00:43:56.800
Actually, I'll jump off of something you were just talking about.
00:43:59.420
So I remember when I was, like, very young, I was like, I'm never going to do drugs.
00:44:10.040
And at one point or another, I'm, you know, smoking weed out of an apple in, like, grade 10 or something.
00:44:16.700
And it's similar to what you were saying earlier, where it's like, whoa, mind expansion.
00:44:25.240
This is like a, oh, like, you know, psychedelics, bro.
00:44:29.180
That was certainly a very romantic thing, I would call it, with weed at first, where it was like this form of escapism and, like, kind of rebellion and blah, blah, blah.
00:44:38.440
And, yeah, I think, you know, to connect it with what you were saying, Lee, it's like, you were basically saying, like, abstinence works.
00:44:49.000
And it's like, yeah, you know, we're habitual human beings, you know?
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Like, if you're hanging around people who smoke weed all the time or drink all the time, you're probably going to start doing that.
00:44:59.600
And the more you do that, the harder it is to stop, not because it's like there's something fucking wrong with you necessarily.
00:45:05.220
That certainly doesn't help, doesn't make it any easier to quit if you do have some fucked up shit because it'll kind of, like, if you guys haven't heard this, essentially, like, if you're mentally ill, you're more likely to do drugs.
00:45:16.620
And if you do drugs, you're more likely to be mentally ill.
00:45:18.680
And if you do, like, it just kind of snowballs.
00:45:26.860
You bond with the people that you're friends with in that sort of sense, right?
00:45:30.280
And that ends up being the one thing you have in common is if you're, like, using drugs or it's your drinking buddy or whatever it is, that's what you have in common.
00:45:38.500
So if you were to take that away, do you actually have stuff in common or is it just your drinking buddy?
00:45:43.820
Like, I know a lot of people who have quit doing drugs or drinking and their whole friend circle changes because they no longer have anything in common.
00:45:56.860
And that's what makes quitting really hard for people in probably most cases because I think you nailed it.
00:46:04.940
Like, when it comes to, you know, drugs, drug use, it certainly most of the time starts in a social setting.
00:46:15.200
Like, when it becomes something that's much more self-destructive and much more, like, kind of, like, objectively not good for you, then it becomes something that's all about isolating and all about fucking just, like, being alone.
00:46:24.420
And doing whatever, whatever you want to do to self-destruct.
00:46:28.680
And, but yeah, I mean, while I'm on the topic, when it comes to, like, recovery or getting sober, there's these things called 12-step programs.
00:46:39.740
Some people poo-poo the 12-step programs and AA, which is Alcoholics Anonymous, and NA, Narcotics Anonymous.
00:46:50.740
But I would kind of defend it by saying, when it comes to the different options of recovery and trying to get help when it comes to substance abuse, the 12-step programs are like tap water.
00:47:11.100
It's not necessarily nutritious, but it'll keep you alive in some capacity.
00:47:21.800
There's a whole other discussion we can go into, but, you know, to kind of tie it up with a nice little bow, essentially.
00:47:27.120
My understanding of these 12-step programs is that it kind of spoon-feeds you, like, raw spirituality of self-improvement, of being honest and open and willing.
00:47:36.700
And the kind of these concepts that can really help you kind of try to get your life on track.
00:47:41.240
But the point I was going to make, actually, is, is unmanageability.
00:47:44.680
Typically, people find themselves going to a 12-step program when their life is becoming unmanageable.
00:47:49.820
When things are getting fucked up and you can't even manage your life, that's typically when people are like, oh, maybe I have a problem.
00:47:54.680
Maybe I should be, you know, getting help for this.
00:47:57.800
But, yeah, and it's, it's kind of interesting because this is kind of a weird other kind of topic.
00:48:05.240
But I don't know if you guys know the YouTuber Moist Critical, I think his name is.
00:48:15.280
And he was doing this thing where he's opening up packs and packs and packs of, like, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
00:48:20.780
And his audience were like, dude, you're addicted to this.
00:48:24.480
And they were kind of, like, you know, memeing him and making fun of him.
00:48:31.640
I only spend $40,000 a month on Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
00:48:38.400
Like, that's, that's, that's, like, so much money to most people watching.
00:48:46.620
Like, you're kind of hoping you win a, you know, a specific card?
00:48:51.940
It's kind of like playing the lottery or gambling or whatever.
00:48:54.460
And, like, it's a net negative probably for most people playing.
00:48:57.320
But, but it's interesting because his life wasn't unmanageable.
00:49:06.880
It's like, well, I certainly would say he's addicted.
00:49:08.840
But, like, to him, it's like, no, this is just, this is just an expensive hobby for me.
00:49:12.640
So it's kind of interesting how it's like, you only realize that you're totally fucked on a certain substance or addiction until it's like, holy fuck, I can't even manage things.
00:49:20.740
Like, even if you are super rich, you know what I mean?
00:49:23.760
Like, you could be some, like, successful person who does coke all the time.
00:49:28.180
But because you're kind of keeping it all together, you're like, I'm fine.
00:49:33.640
You could be kicking it down the road if you have the money to be able to uphold that kind of lifestyle, right?
00:49:38.940
Because I could assume that people on the top, they are a lot of drug addicts, except for they have the top drug doctors to give them exactly what they need to wake up in the morning and to go to sleep at night.
00:49:54.360
But, you know, it's a cascade of drugs and eventually it'll come tumbling down.
00:49:58.880
The casual use of basically speed and methamphetamines, I don't know them off the top of my head, but, you know, like Adderall is one.
00:50:07.340
Like, these are basically, like, so similar chemically to meth.
00:50:14.660
And, like, I have, like, you know, friends of friends and they work on Bay Street and they're like, oh, yeah, we're taking dex now.
00:50:22.020
Which is, like, short for, like, dexetrine or some shit, which is, like, basically super Adderall.
00:50:34.300
But it's crazy to think how many that side of the whole drug use thing, right?
00:50:48.080
Well, like, the biggest drug pushers are in lab coats and are doctors that write prescriptions.
00:50:53.660
They're actually the biggest drug dealers to exist.
00:50:57.440
And they're the ones that actually start people on addiction to illegal drugs a lot of the time.
00:51:04.440
You know, people that can no longer get opioids, well, then they're going to heroin or fentanyl.
00:51:13.680
A lot of people don't talk about that aspect is that the big pharma is actually the biggest drug dealers known to exist.
00:51:21.480
But, you know, opiate, yeah, opiates, the Sackler family pushing opioids onto people and getting caught and fined billions of dollars, lying about the effects of stuff like Oxycontin.
00:51:39.640
Yeah, they had the FDA lie and say that it wasn't addictive or habit forming because of its slow release.
00:51:52.700
And then I believe it was in those lawsuits where they ended up getting, like, fined billions of dollars, which is nothing to them.
00:52:04.840
But, like, they were getting doctors to push it on people and laughing about, like, referring to the people they were selling to as pillbillies.
00:52:17.840
So decimating middle America and you see who is dying in droves, who has the highest suicide rates, the highest rate of opioid overdose.
00:52:31.300
Dave Chappelle did a whole bit on that on one of his, like, recent specials.
00:52:35.260
Not the most recent one, but I think a couple before it where it's like, man, these poor white folk are just on fentanyl everywhere.
00:52:44.800
Man, I love how we're doing this podcast on drugs and my eyes all fucked up.
00:52:51.560
I just beat up my dealer because I owe the money.
00:52:59.860
You guys were talking about the movies earlier as well.
00:53:02.200
And I was nodding along to that where it's like, yep.
00:53:10.600
The American Pie one is more of, like, a sexual psyop where it's like, if you're a virgin, then you're worthless.
00:53:21.600
Like, that's the message, basically, of American Pie.
00:53:24.200
You should be so horny all the time that you will end up fucking a pie.
00:53:33.180
They were trying to have sex and they were virgins.
00:53:35.940
They didn't want to be virgins going into college or university or whatever.
00:53:43.560
What about Pineapple Express where Buddy's dating a fucking high schooler?
00:53:50.040
He's, like, 30 years old and he's dating a 17-year-old or something.
00:53:54.760
And that just kind of, like, went under the radar.
00:54:16.140
Like, Blackbill is so good with these Hollywood takedowns where he'll just take, like, a great one is Pleasantville.
00:54:23.880
He goes into, he does, like, a half-hour breakdown of the movie Pleasantville.
00:54:30.500
The complete inversion of morality and how it's, like, they paint, like, the 1950s, like, ideal, you know, like, nuclear family.
00:54:46.820
Like, you know, it's, like, this idealized world.
00:54:52.000
And they make it seem like all of those things are positive whenever they're inverted, right?
00:54:56.980
It's funny you bring this up because I took film studies and I took a class called Family and Melodrama.
00:55:03.520
And we did tons of readings on this film in particular.
00:55:08.400
And Professor, obviously a liberal, seemed to go along with, like, oh, the 1950s.
00:55:14.800
It presented itself as traditionalist and, like, moral outstanding, you know, order.
00:55:21.700
But deep down underneath, every dad was beating his wife and the moms.
00:55:27.940
As you can see here, the wife is in the kitchen, a.k.a. this is violence and evil that she's here in the kitchen.
00:55:34.520
It's the worst thing that's going to ever happen.
00:55:38.880
That Blackpill, you know, analysis of this movie, it's great.
00:55:44.320
Like, look, like, you know, the whole thing, like, yeah, this is it, right?
00:55:49.720
And as soon as they all start having sex with each other and, like, touching each other, then everything sprouts into color all of a sudden.
00:56:01.100
This is, like, basically, like, the bloody neo-Marxist ideology in a movie here.
00:56:08.020
Now, obviously, there is something, too, if, like, somebody is being way too stuffy and repressed.
00:56:16.000
But then they just take it to the next logical extreme.
00:56:19.240
And, you know, giving into your passions all the time and doing what thou wilt all the time will leave you way more enslaved than you ever were when you were putting restraints on yourself.
00:56:35.540
Like, some of Devin Stack's stuff, like, blows me away.
00:56:42.040
Another great one, just to throw this out there, is Defiant.
00:56:46.040
It's not, like, a documentary or, like, an analysis or anything.
00:56:52.160
It's, like, half an hour of just news clips about things.
00:56:56.920
And it's one of those ones that, like, will really make you angry.
00:57:00.780
Because it's just really well done, all the edits.
00:57:06.900
You can probably find it on Bitchute or Rumble or, yeah.
00:57:20.420
I think there's definitely something to, uh, they're rewriting history saying that 1950s was this huge oppressive time when it was a time where there was a lot of prosperity and, you know, a lot of hope for the future.
00:57:37.920
And, uh, what people don't know or think about often is how the 1960s itself was just a huge psyop.
00:57:46.480
Literally all these psychedelic rock bands and these people involved in it, they were all swarmed and surrounded by CIA handlers.
00:57:54.640
Who were the ones who were injecting the drugs into the culture in the first place?
00:58:03.840
I'm like, I've never actually, like, heard, heard this before.
00:58:07.920
Well, uh, for example, I actually have a little infograph that, uh, gives a bit of a visual reference.
00:58:23.360
Drugs were injected into society as part of MKUltra.
00:58:33.160
One was to get drugs to, you know, call the masses to warp people's minds and to be able to, uh, repress them easier and to be able to arrest social and political movements.
00:58:46.400
So you have all these anti-war movements, uh, but if you get them all high on acid and you make it all about them smoking weed and doing acid and partying, then that's totally gonna, uh, it's totally gonna mess up the movement and be counterproductive to actually stopping the Vietnam War, right?
00:59:05.500
And then you could also crack down on everybody, too.
00:59:11.280
And it makes a, uh, a new divide of, like, the mainstream media and, like, the parents onlooking.
00:59:17.160
And then the hippies, which is, like, this weird, freaky, degenerate culture that just went really crazy all of a sudden.
00:59:26.540
And then you have, you have the media, like, on one hand, acting like it's, like, fear-mongering about it, but at the same time, they're promoting it, like, 100%.
00:59:38.560
So just, sorry, go ahead, I was gonna change this.
00:59:47.320
I was gonna ask if, what people are giving up this month, or if that's, that's been talked about, I don't know.
00:59:59.300
Uh, yeah, for me, personally, I'm giving up weed and alcohol.
01:00:08.180
So I've already, uh, given up weed for about, like, three weeks now at this point.
01:00:14.100
But, uh, yeah, for beer, I did give up alcohol for about two months at the beginning of the year.
01:00:23.020
Like, uh, a couple drinks every, every few nights or so.
01:00:27.400
But, uh, near the end, uh, before May, before this, it was, like, probably about two or three every night.
01:00:33.800
And it was manageable, but, you know, now I want to get rid of it.
01:00:39.220
And now that I've gotten rid of the weed, now this should be easier.
01:00:50.100
When I quit, it was, it was, like, the recreational trio for me.
01:00:56.680
It was, like, the weed, it was the alcohol, and it was also the darts.
01:01:09.760
And then I, like, smoked cigarettes for, like, two weeks after that.
01:01:13.260
That being said, though, it was, it was, like, a long time coming where I'd been, like, thinking about quitting and thinking about cutting back.
01:01:19.720
And, like, you know, making it 30 days, 60 days, 90 days here and there.
01:01:23.500
And then, like, kind of, like, fucking off for another year.
01:01:29.460
Everyone has their own journey when it comes to this stuff.
01:01:36.120
That's, that's a good, useful framework where it's, like, if you are trying to quit, like, if you say, I'm never going to do it again, that, that's stupid.
01:01:50.140
That's such a ridiculous promise to say, I'm never going to do it for the rest of time.
01:01:54.240
Like, you can't, no one can make that promise about anything.
01:01:56.560
But you can say, for today, like, just for today?
01:02:03.080
Yeah, I could probably do that, like, just for today.
01:02:07.640
You don't have to worry about fucking next week or even tomorrow.
01:02:10.500
You know, just, just focus on the day in front of you.
01:02:12.860
Even for some people, though, a day is even too long.
01:02:23.460
Like, whatever, a day is sometimes too long for people.
01:02:28.700
Like, you know, like, a whole day without going, going without a cigarette.
01:02:38.880
I don't know if you guys have checked out the Vice page on Diagalon Prime there,
01:02:47.180
So, Rick Freedom here in the YouTube chat nailed it.
01:02:52.420
Weed is so deceptive and a really powerful drug.
01:02:56.000
I think weed is probably the one that people are struggling with the most in the first two days.
01:03:00.380
There's people that are like, I can't, like, I couldn't sleep last night.
01:03:06.660
Like, I have, like, they're having withdrawal symptoms.
01:03:09.280
And it's like, that's not what is usually painted as the picture of, you know, what weed is.
01:03:14.600
You don't tend to think of, like, you know, opiate-like withdrawals.
01:03:24.780
Like, I remember people saying weed was never addictive.
01:03:36.920
And the other thing, too, that I think fucks with people maybe more often than not is, are you mixing tobacco with weed as well?
01:03:45.140
Because that's, now it is physically addictive because you're smoking the nicotine with it, right?
01:03:57.340
And then I smoked cigarettes for another two weeks to kind of, like, take the edge off or whatever.
01:04:00.600
But, yeah, it's, the analogy I had for weed is that she was a, part of my language, a fuck buddy who was, like, just really not good for me.
01:04:14.000
So it's, like, oh, man, I really want to go back and, you know, we have such a good time together.
01:04:22.920
And then the next morning I can't get out of bed and I'm just a fucking mess.
01:04:27.520
Like, Mary Jane, why did you do this to me again?
01:04:53.760
But, yeah, like, I personally had success, like, personifying the drug, especially Mary Jane.
01:05:09.680
And when you don't have that to rely on, fuck, it's hard at the beginning.
01:05:20.400
It's almost like there's someone there kind of, like, talking you into it.
01:05:34.520
Like, my heart goes out to anybody who's struggling with that.
01:05:38.520
Because it, basically, like, by the, when I first realized it was a problem, I'll paint a picture for you.
01:05:44.840
I was home at my parents' house for the summer.
01:05:50.660
I think I was, like, working at a pizzeria at the time.
01:05:59.440
I smoke, like, I get my nice little bong with a percolator, blah, blah, blah.
01:06:05.000
And I smoked, like, two bowls, like I usually do.
01:06:08.180
And then I'm, like, I'm going to smoke another one.
01:06:10.900
And I had this, like, weird fucking, like, vision.
01:06:13.120
Because I'm, like, that was absolutely nothing to me.
01:06:21.480
And I had this, like, vision back to, like, when I was in grade 7, grade 8.
01:06:29.620
I just did, like, three, like, bong hits to my head.
01:06:37.180
And that's when I realized, huh, maybe I have an issue with this.
01:06:39.600
But my point is, it took me two years from that realization until I actually started to
01:06:46.020
have any success with actually starting to quit.
01:06:50.380
Like, it took a long fucking time for me to, like, get to that point.
01:06:54.580
And it, because when I made that realization, slowly, I got into this stupid habit of, hey,
01:07:03.180
And then it's, like, the little addict brain inside of me is, like, no, you're not.
01:07:06.680
You're going to smoke more weed than you usually do tonight, idiot.
01:07:12.680
So you have to, like, smoke extra because you're never going to smoke it again.
01:07:22.420
Like, if you're trying to quit and you only make it a day or you only make it two days,
01:07:29.620
Don't beat yourself up because, like, you know, the self-destructive part of you that
01:07:34.260
wants to make you feel like shit, like the devil, whatever you want to call it, the addict,
01:07:37.360
whatever, it always tries to use that to make you feel like shit.
01:07:41.900
It's like, oh, like, you only made it a day because you're a loser.
01:07:47.380
But it's like, no, you should feel good about even making it a day or whatever it is.
01:07:58.820
You, like, whatever success you have, you just stack it up and you just keep going.
01:08:04.160
Like, you don't quit just because, oh, I only made it five days and might as well just give
01:08:11.480
You should learn from what caused you to do it or what happened right before you felt
01:08:15.900
like doing it or, um, and learn from it and try again.
01:08:23.240
That's, that's, that's when you really start to do the work.
01:08:25.480
When you start to look at like why you're doing this because, uh, spoiler alert for those
01:08:34.920
Like when you go into therapy or 12 step programs on this, eventually you realize it's not the
01:08:45.400
There's something wrong with you, motherfucker.
01:08:47.140
You know, like it's just, you're using the drugs to escape something, but, um, you know,
01:08:52.180
you'll get to that point at, uh, when you get there.
01:08:56.020
Um, interesting experience with weed you have though, like, uh, definitely the, the tobacco
01:09:05.120
I would say from my experience, especially with, uh, my friends growing up, they would
01:09:10.600
do the bong hits like, uh, in lots of places, Ontario, you just have little pot, like water
01:09:16.920
bottles where you stick a piece in and that's how you, uh, started smoking in high school.
01:09:22.640
And then, uh, as you grow older, you like the triple perk bong or whatever you're talking
01:09:28.640
about and you pack tobacco, like all the way to the top.
01:09:33.640
I couldn't even imagine, like I would cough my brains out.
01:09:36.940
So I switched to only smoking, uh, like no tobacco and just the weed.
01:09:42.300
And that made it for now, uh, like where I am at now to be able to quit where it's not
01:09:50.380
like I'm physically jonesing and stuff, but like you said, there is that want to like
01:09:58.060
It's more so with the falling asleep with me where it really got to me where we're without
01:10:04.620
I just have crazy, like insane dreams, like very violent.
01:10:09.520
Like I feel like, I feel like I'm always trying to solve my problems in the middle of the night
01:10:14.140
and I wake up and I'm like, Oh wait, you don't have to solve anything.
01:10:17.360
You just have to sleep, but after like a few weeks of it, I feel like, uh, uh, my sleep
01:10:25.880
when I wake up, I feel better than I did before when I was smoking weed.
01:10:30.480
Like people think that smoking weed is like a medicine to fall asleep and have a good night's
01:10:38.260
Uh, I don't know if you've heard of the Andrew Huberman podcast where he's talking about
01:10:42.200
you're like missing out on a huge part of your REM sleep.
01:10:45.140
If you smoke weed every night to go to sleep, like you're not actually getting fully rested
01:10:54.140
So it's kind of interesting that they have weed for insomnia when it has that counterproductive
01:11:02.420
Well, and there's a difference too, between like CBD without THC in it.
01:11:06.480
And I think that's better for like pain or sleep.
01:11:12.200
It doesn't have like the euphoria feeling of being high.
01:11:16.580
So I know a lot of people will use that instead of smoking weed.
01:11:22.740
And yeah, it's not like abstinence is always the best route for everybody, especially at
01:11:27.780
Like if you're chain smoking, like two packs a day, like quitting cold Turkey, I don't
01:11:36.540
This, this is when I can actually speak to you.
01:11:38.460
Cause like of all of these, the worst I ever had a problem with and still kind of do is
01:11:44.220
I smoked for like 10 years and then I, I switched to the vape and like, we were talking about
01:11:55.160
I can say that like, I, uh, whenever I, I switched completely from cigarettes to vaping,
01:12:01.320
my, everything about my health improved, like my cardio improved, my taste, my sleep,
01:12:07.600
like, like, you know, your skin, like there, there wasn't really anything I could think
01:12:11.880
of that didn't get better after like, even things like, like the, the social aspects of
01:12:21.640
Like all those, the, the negative aspects of smoke, they kind of go away.
01:12:24.760
So it's a good transition, you know, to get away from cigarettes, at least temporarily.
01:12:30.060
Um, I know a lot of people now say it's just as bad or worse.
01:12:32.780
I don't believe that it's worse or I certainly don't, or sorry, I don't believe that it's
01:12:37.900
I certainly don't believe that it's worse, at least not in the short term.
01:12:43.740
Super villain 73 says vaping is 5% as bad as smoking health wise.
01:12:49.820
I think that that's probably accurate, but there is a difference too, between quitting
01:12:55.860
Like I, I noticed that whenever I have like, that's really what I've committed to.
01:13:00.860
Like, okay, I'm done with, I'm done with vaping.
01:13:04.300
Um, and, and so like, whenever I tried to quit smoking though, I tried to transition
01:13:16.460
And I couldn't just switching to the gum didn't help either.
01:13:19.320
But when I switched to the vape, I was doing kind of both.
01:13:23.160
And then I was vaping other times, you know, so I, like I transitioned from one to the other.
01:13:27.580
And then once I was on to the vape fully, I didn't even want cigarettes anymore.
01:13:32.160
Like now, like, I mean, I have smoked since like very rarely, but now, now the idea of
01:13:37.460
having a cigarette, um, like I, if I was offered a choice, I would rather have a vape than
01:13:46.980
So like, uh, you know, the gum works once you switch to the vape, it's easy to go from
01:13:56.800
Um, actually I have done this before too, where I had switched to the gum and it's,
01:14:02.220
it's much, eventually you start even, uh, like you stop even realizing that you crave
01:14:11.260
Like if you do it long enough, you go longer and longer without being like, fuck, I need
01:14:16.400
And eventually you just realize like, oh, I don't want it at all anymore.
01:14:19.280
And it's only whenever you relapse and go like, okay, I'm going to buy another bottle
01:14:23.180
of vape juice because I want to vape this weekend, you know, cause you have that urge
01:14:27.900
Then, then all of a sudden you're vaping again.
01:14:29.700
So, but, but I think I've got, I think now you're vaping and you got like five pieces
01:14:40.120
Well, I mean, look, the, the vape has, uh, or sorry, the, the gum is working.
01:14:52.520
I need, I need, I need the, I need the oral fixation, man.
01:14:56.160
I need, I need the, even if I quit like the nicotine gum, I'm, I'm sure I will still chew
01:15:03.900
Um, yeah, you should switch to like just regular gum.
01:15:07.680
Yeah, I will eventually see what happens, but I like aspartame is probably worse than
01:15:18.180
Like one brand of gum in the entire country, Lee, but I hear you.
01:15:23.340
Kaboobo fairy likes putting things in his mouth.
01:15:28.800
I will say to add to like the, like the many, many benefits of quitting smoking.
01:15:37.060
You can maybe see there's like a scar right there, but, uh, the doctor was like, Hey, you
01:15:42.900
That'll really help with the circulation because it's hard to get blood supply in that, in that
01:15:48.640
And, uh, you know, I, I had the injury for years and my range of motion was like only
01:15:54.140
And it was only when I actually quit everything like years and years and years later after
01:15:58.860
there's this interest in injury that the range of motion actually came back, which was when
01:16:04.300
I actually stopped smoking everything, uh, like a long time after the, the injury itself.
01:16:08.960
So like, Oh, the doctor was right when I came to that.
01:16:12.360
But, um, I will say, speaking of oral fixation as well, again, everyone has their own journey,
01:16:17.820
but soda water with lime, like it's got the, it's got that to it.
01:16:25.000
It's got that because a huge problem for me was, you know, I can't just have one or two
01:16:35.080
It's like, okay, I'm going to have another one.
01:16:39.500
So now when I go out, I just make sure it's soda water.
01:16:49.140
Uh, I'm pissed all the time during my streams because I, my oral fixation is, uh, I want
01:16:56.940
First of all, first and foremost, that would be the best or a mixed drink.
01:17:02.140
To be honest, I'm going to admit I'm having a hard time.
01:17:04.820
Like even like not feeling anxious doing a stream right now because I didn't drink before.
01:17:11.460
Like that means that it, there's something wrong there.
01:17:15.200
Right now, even if it like, I would do like two or three drinks before a stream and then
01:17:22.060
I would stop and I would get like clear minded so that I could do everything properly and
01:17:28.560
But that initial boost really helped me like, uh, loosen up before a stream and not doing
01:17:36.700
So that tells me something that I need to get over that right there.
01:17:42.880
You know, you know, it's one thing, just if I could tie this into politics for a second,
01:17:47.140
One thing I think that's kind of fucked is like, so recently they, they upped the tax
01:17:55.420
And I just, I went to go grab, I just went and grabbed a piece of gum.
01:17:59.720
And I'm thinking like, okay, a, a, a box of this gum is like 40 bucks.
01:18:05.460
And it's like, if the government really cared about you, wouldn't they?
01:18:08.740
And like, they, there's all these like quit smoking campaigns, right?
01:18:16.900
It's like, well, isn't that something like they should invest money that they generate
01:18:25.700
Like why would you, why would you raise the taxes on vaping?
01:18:29.560
If you want people to quit smoking, I realized that it's not necessarily a solution, but it
01:18:33.860
is something that people go to in that process and saying like, you know, a box of this gum
01:18:45.620
I'm pretty sure though, that the same people that like, it's the people that make the not
01:18:50.860
the, the aids to stop smoking are the same people who make cigarettes.
01:18:58.140
Like they, they are in, they've cashed in on both.
01:19:07.820
I think the point I'm trying to make here is like, if they really cared about you and
01:19:12.040
they, like, they act like they do, they spend all this money on advertising, right?
01:19:16.500
And they, they put these fucking gross images on cigarette packs.
01:19:19.920
And they, and they want you to, you know, it's, it's costly on the healthcare system
01:19:26.440
And then, you know, the, the ways that you can get people to quit, it's like, yeah, but
01:19:33.740
Like, that's how much I would go through in gum, maybe a little bit less, but just throwing
01:19:39.340
They're like, why would you raise the taxes on vaping?
01:19:46.560
It's almost like they want people to smoke because they don't really make as much money
01:20:00.180
Canadians get hosed when it comes to the price of drugs here.
01:20:04.140
Like every single, you know, like alcohol, so expensive.
01:20:09.040
I guess weed is the only thing that's maybe a little bit cheaper in terms of quality, but
01:20:18.420
I think so close up 99 in the chat says I get paid to drink.
01:20:25.320
So quitting is not an option, but I get paid to drink because I don't like getting drunk.
01:20:33.040
What do you do that you get paid to drink because you don't like getting drunk?
01:20:54.380
I just want to read some super chats here before we go any further.
01:21:02.260
Saying a good song would have been needle in the damage done, but Neil is woke.
01:21:06.780
So that was referring to the songs at the beginning.
01:21:13.240
And Satoshi Ape and real, real Donald T with 80 bucks.
01:21:21.220
He's saying during the time of MK ultra LSD drop out and drop in was the thing.
01:21:27.560
I was mad when my sister repeated the stories of my past to her kids.
01:21:33.980
Uh, I always wanted to know what my parents, uh, did in the sixties and my dad will never
01:21:40.440
Uh, he says that he had a, had a stint with drugs that he's like not proud of.
01:21:45.920
Uh, and then around the time when he was 19 or 20, he just quit everything and got into
01:21:50.940
professional bodybuilding, uh, no professional, uh, power lifting.
01:21:59.060
But I always try to like pry on him to find out what drugs he was doing.
01:22:03.480
I know that he wanted to go to Woodstock, but his, uh, my grandma said that he would be
01:22:09.440
If he ended up going there, he was like 16 or 17 years old at the time.
01:22:13.540
Uh, but she probably had his best interest in mind there.
01:22:19.580
Like when you think about Woodstock in the sixties and how they idealized it, like it
01:22:24.860
sounds honestly, like it was pretty terrible, like three days, like it's, it's all there's,
01:22:31.460
there's not enough facilities to go to the washroom.
01:22:33.840
Like, is there even enough water or food there?
01:22:36.280
You're blared with loud music all day and night.
01:22:43.540
All these drug dealers, probably criminals all there.
01:22:51.800
Um, but then the media, the media idealized, the media idealizes it.
01:22:56.360
So even probably people who were there who couldn't wait to get the fuck home will be
01:23:05.140
Did you hear the theory that everybody who went to Woodstock got microchipped against their
01:23:17.300
No, I'm not making that up, but, uh, that's a good one.
01:23:23.820
Well, I think it, I think it, no, I totally made that up.
01:23:31.540
I think that was before the time of microchip conspiracies.
01:23:38.380
Um, although I have heard of the theory that Woodstock was, uh, an MK ultra, uh, mass trauma
01:23:47.360
inducing experiment where they were trying to traumatize the population and they had CIA
01:23:53.720
drug dealers, uh, or intelligence going in and, uh, giving away millions, hundreds of
01:24:06.520
I'm just imagining like some CIA agents with LSD, like drugging people with like a super
01:24:11.920
strong type of LSD, grabbing them and nabbing them into a van and just like trying to like
01:24:16.980
do like a makeshift, like quick, like MK ultra.
01:24:24.220
Like trying to like, just, you know, experimenting with their tactics.
01:24:28.140
I think there's certainly, uh, some congruency there though, with, uh, around the same time
01:24:33.180
of, of experimenting with LSD and mind control and all that shit.
01:24:37.060
So that's where it lines up, but there was a hospital in Montreal that actually was doing
01:24:44.020
MK ultra, um, on patients trying to, well, they claimed it was to treat schizophrenia and
01:24:51.960
And a lot of their family members were like, um, when they're, when their family members
01:24:56.700
would return to them, they were, would be returned in worse condition than when they
01:25:01.360
Um, and using electroshock therapy, like this happened in Montreal, like this is in Canada.
01:25:13.500
Cause I know McGill was involved with MK ultra research.
01:25:17.380
And if you look at it, McGill has this very, um, interesting, uh, history of, of connections
01:25:25.640
of the highest, like for Trudeau into McGill, um, like there, uh, McGill was the one that
01:25:31.840
was awarded a lot of these massive contracts for the COVID research.
01:25:37.040
They've been involved with a lot of government scandals over the years.
01:25:39.760
So like, there's this, uh, weird kind of connection between McGill and a lot of these,
01:25:47.280
And, and just to add to that, cause it's kind of the same category, just the, the open
01:25:51.840
corruption with like SNC Lavalin, this, this Montreal based company, right.
01:25:56.840
Where it's like, Oh, you guys are just totally in bed with the government and doing all the
01:26:02.340
It's like, I wouldn't be surprised, especially if you consider the weird power and authority
01:26:07.580
that Quebec has, uh, over Canadian politics in general, just in terms of being able to
01:26:16.680
So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of, that goes a lot deeper.
01:26:23.100
Well, I could just give a bit of background on MK ultra and using LSD to mind control
01:26:29.100
I think this is a good topic psychedelics to get into because it there's a, there's some
01:26:36.060
And, uh, I completely glossed over all the bad stuff when I was younger, but I'm starting
01:26:40.860
to see more of it now, especially now that I'm getting more red pilled.
01:26:44.960
But, uh, yeah, in the fifties, they were using LSD.
01:26:49.980
They were trying to figure out if they could, uh, use it to control people's minds.
01:26:55.760
And then there was documents that, uh, were, you know, they're top secret, but somehow they
01:27:01.320
got, uh, some of them unredacted and it was showing that they were giving it to people
01:27:05.320
against their will, like, uh, the, the CIA and yeah, who, uh, they had people, uh, of
01:27:16.000
intelligence surrounding all these different artists and these different activists trying
01:27:21.100
to get LSD into their circles, uh, specifically like the Beatles too.
01:27:26.060
There were all these people around them, uh, trying to get them to peer pressuring them
01:27:30.760
to try it and to, uh, promote it at different times.
01:27:34.840
Uh, George Harrison's dentist dosed all the Beatles with acid in their coffee against their
01:27:41.740
And this is like a thing that they write in their biographies and they were furious at
01:27:47.640
Now, like, why would the guy, their dentist just randomly dose them?
01:27:59.180
Cause it's like, could it be like a nefarious plot or was it like the sixties, bro?
01:28:08.160
Although did the LSD come first or the Sergeant peppers?
01:28:12.480
I think, uh, it all came in tandem and the same people who are into like the free Masonic
01:28:19.340
lodges, they inserted all this iconography into all these albums and they had writers who
01:28:25.600
were, uh, inserting all these different ideas that came from the secret societies and the
01:28:31.220
elites, you know, this is in all the, like, we know this is in all like the popular music
01:28:36.540
today, but it was also going on at that time too.
01:28:40.540
Like if you look at any Beatles album cover, it's filled with all these, uh, satanic and
01:28:46.300
occultic figures like Alistair Crowley, uh, who had like, uh, the, the same ideologies that
01:28:54.240
were in like these skull and bones, free Masonic lodges, and all these different things that
01:28:59.580
the elites were talking about behind closed doors in order to control society.
01:29:04.040
And if you, uh, if you rearrange Sergeant pepper's lonely heart club, then you get Jeffrey Epstein
01:29:19.920
I know you play led, listen to this Led Zeppelin album backwards.
01:29:32.500
no, I mean, who knows, you know, they clearly, um, cloned, uh, Paul McCartney.
01:29:41.740
Um, no, I've never actually looked into that one, but, um,
01:29:51.260
I mean, they, they call him fall instead of Paul.
01:30:03.260
It's kind of too Spurgy for me, but I mean, there is some, it sounds like a good watch though.
01:30:25.040
And then they replaced Paul McCartney with fall.
01:30:29.180
I'll watch that after my nightly, uh, flat earth doc.
01:30:35.840
Um, so, so what do you guys think about psychedelics though, as a whole, like, is this in the same
01:30:41.400
league is this other stuff we're talking about?
01:30:43.740
Is it a, is it like a sacrament to get some kind of transcendence and unlock some new information
01:30:51.420
Or is it just over self-indulgence into the ego or what do you guys think of it?
01:30:58.220
So I think another thing to bring up on, on this question as well is like micro dosing
01:31:03.140
is a thing that's becoming more common, which I don't really know much about other than
01:31:09.560
probably what the average person has heard, which is for those who don't know, it's like
01:31:14.060
a small amounts of psychosyllabine, which is like magic mushrooms or small amounts of
01:31:27.820
I think, uh, here, here to help spread the light for 20, just nailed it.
01:31:31.940
He just summarized exactly how I feel about psychedelics.
01:31:35.600
Mushrooms are original to the earth, millions of years old.
01:31:38.400
Unlike LSD, LSD is, is a, is a man-made, um, it's, I don't know, there's something about
01:31:49.020
I don't like the idea of this synthetic, you know, chemical that like, you know, I, I'm
01:31:57.040
Um, uh, like of all the drugs that I will advocate mushrooms are one, but I, I also don't, I don't
01:32:04.640
So maybe I shouldn't say that much, but I don't, I don't buy this whole micro dosing
01:32:12.780
Um, yeah, a hundred percent, a hundred percent, when you're going to do mushrooms, you do
01:32:16.740
a fuckload of them and you, you, I personally like the bad trips.
01:32:21.500
I like whenever it gets real scary and, and you work some shit out.
01:32:26.040
Like that's, that's what I think mushrooms are for.
01:32:29.960
Like to me, I would summarize it like to me, mushrooms are what connects you to the old
01:32:36.940
That's the, the, the God of earth, the gods of earth and, and tree and soil and, um, water.
01:32:45.640
There's something very real about that experience.
01:33:01.260
I'm saying that look, look, I'm not saying do them regularly.
01:33:07.200
I'm saying like once every two to four years, I take a big mushroom trip and I, uh, go to,
01:33:17.740
How, how many, uh, grams do you like, like, like hero doses?
01:33:32.580
Um, I've, I've certainly heard a lot of like anecdotes from people of it being them having
01:33:39.460
a trip where they took away something positive from it.
01:33:42.860
I would say I've heard that more than I've heard people having bad experiences.
01:33:48.380
And if I'm perfectly honest for someone like who hasn't used drugs or alcohol in years,
01:33:54.500
it's like, that's probably the one where it's like, maybe, maybe I would, maybe I would,
01:33:59.180
you know, maybe I would go for a little, uh, you know, mushroom trip or something, you know,
01:34:10.080
It's like, like, I, I hate, I hate drug spiritualism, but to me, like, that's one that
01:34:16.180
I don't know if you'd even call it spiritualism.
01:34:18.160
It's just like, it's like self-reflection or, or, you know, self-introspection.
01:34:25.540
To me, that is how you, you don't fucking take, you know, four grams of mushrooms and
01:34:40.200
You take a shitload of them and you're like, when you're off in the woods somewhere or I
01:35:03.920
No, I agree with you on the, on the hero doses.
01:35:06.960
I feel like when you take them, whatever has been bothering you in your subconscious will
01:35:12.860
come to the surface and you'll have to face it head on and it'll be difficult.
01:35:20.160
And that's why I feel like it's kind of like a transcendent, uh, important experience.
01:35:25.840
I've come to conclusions after it, after like a difficult trip, like I need to be nicer
01:35:36.420
I know exactly what you're talking about where it's like, you, you go, mushrooms are so weird
01:35:43.220
Like it goes into like, you, you have no idea what the fuck is going on.
01:35:46.580
And then it drops back down and you have this moment of like massive, like introspection
01:35:53.580
And then, and then you come back up and you're like, Oh man, life is great again.
01:35:56.940
And then you just get slammed back down into the dark despair.
01:36:04.500
Like the afterglow is almost always good because whatever turmoil you went through, then you
01:36:09.580
have like a sense of peace after like, Whoa, we survived the war kind of, kind of, that's
01:36:14.840
the other thing too, is like when it comes to mushrooms, it's like, I I've done hero.
01:36:19.120
It's, I never, you know, it's not like the next week.
01:36:22.200
I'm like, damn, I really want to do that again.
01:36:24.500
It's like, no, no, I'm good for like another three, four years.
01:36:32.060
If you guys know Alan Watts, he's got a great thing when it comes to drugs.
01:36:35.820
And it's like, you know, drug use is like answering a phone call.
01:36:42.640
And then whenever you get the message, you put the phone back down and you don't pick
01:36:46.160
it up again until you feel the need, like, you know, to answer it once again.
01:36:50.880
Like, you don't, you don't just stand there with the phone, you know, hoping that like a
01:36:55.340
schizophrenic listening to voices and voices and more voices.
01:37:02.060
Just put like, you know, you got the K I got the message, put the phone down, like you
01:37:07.720
So anyways, I'd never felt the need to like use mushrooms.
01:37:10.780
Like I'm like alcohol where you, you know, Oh man, I want to get drunk again or weed.
01:37:17.140
I never feel that with mushrooms until that, that period rolls around again.
01:37:24.500
I say that summarizes kind of the appeal for drugs for me in general, which is like, how
01:37:32.920
Perhaps I will have new thoughts and my mind will go to new places.
01:37:39.200
Let's see what, what happens when I mess with my chemistry a little bit.
01:37:41.760
But, um, is it, I remember hearing this, that, you know, some people who take a bad LSD batch
01:37:53.900
I've been hearing, Oh, I, everyone knows a friend or knows a person who knows a person
01:38:04.820
I guess, I guess there was even, um, what is it?
01:38:12.980
In their first album, uh, Piper's at the Gates of Dawn, I believe they had a different,
01:38:17.520
uh, lead singer and their songs were really trippy, really psychedelic.
01:38:24.060
Oh, he was in their first album and then he just went totally insane after.
01:38:28.200
But, uh, I think it was a mix between, yeah, cool.
01:38:32.920
Like I, I thought the lore behind that was interesting.
01:38:37.220
But, um, I think it's a mixture between mental illness.
01:38:40.840
And this drug feeding into the mental, the ego of the mental illness that kind of gets
01:38:51.860
Like, yeah, that's, that's kind of why I'm cautious of LSD.
01:38:55.280
It's like, I don't want to get a bad batch or like, it's not just LSD either.
01:39:00.400
It's also, I've seen, I've seen it happen with marijuana as well.
01:39:11.280
Cause it's like mixed with like mixed with bad LSD or?
01:39:14.940
People who have, uh, like say they have bipolar, it's magnified and then they just lose it.
01:39:21.200
Just think about people who say that they could sense your aura, right?
01:39:25.840
They have maybe, maybe it's something that helps them.
01:39:28.200
Like it's healthy enough that they could function in society, but they feel like they could read
01:39:35.300
East coast, East coast Canadian in chat says, I'm the reefer madness guy.
01:39:42.840
I used to watch, uh, these kinds of things when I was young, when I found out that weed
01:39:48.740
And then it just made, it seems that so much more ridiculous.
01:39:51.960
Anybody who tell you to stay away from it, when they show you propaganda like this,
01:39:56.000
like if I smoke weed, will I just start fucking playing the piano like a madman?
01:40:10.680
Um, I, I have another interesting topic that we could maybe talk about.
01:40:15.700
It speaks to like the psyop and kind of, it has like a political angle to it.
01:40:40.840
So how I sleep at night knowing I'm a lazy piece of shit with no goals or plans for the
01:40:44.880
So this is not like the meme I was looking for, but this is a type of humor that is online.
01:40:52.020
And it, I feel like it's the same flavor of like the, uh, hangover of this sort of like,
01:41:03.100
Like I, I bring this up because when I reflect upon my times in university and like, yeah,
01:41:10.640
we would, you know, get drunk and it would be, and we act like idiots and then we get
01:41:14.700
And then my favorite part of this whole ritual would actually be the next morning when we
01:41:20.740
get like brunch together and then talk about how big of idiots we were.
01:41:24.600
And like, it's a certain flavor of humor where like the funny part is that we're like wasted
01:41:31.200
idiots, like wasting our time and money acting like retards, you know, like, and like there
01:41:36.820
is humor in that, just like there's humor in the movie, the hangover, but it's also kind
01:41:42.560
It's kind of like this sad where it's like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
01:41:54.280
You know, what's funny is a while back, I wish I could find this video, but the way you
01:41:58.480
enjoy the decline on telegram, uh, organize their stuff.
01:42:03.040
You can never find anything because they don't actually have anyways, it would take forever
01:42:10.280
I thought it was going to be one of these like uplifting ones.
01:42:15.080
And he's like, here's me at 19 getting blackout drunk, eating street food.
01:42:19.880
And it's just like him, like with a fucking gyro or a euro or like a falafel or something.
01:42:26.120
And he's just like, and he's like falling over and like bumping into shit and his buddy's
01:42:31.880
And he's just like laughing, like retardedly and just like, you know, shoving this into
01:42:36.760
And then it's like, uh, you think it's going to be this moment where it's like, cause he
01:42:43.220
And it's like, you think it's going to be like, Oh, here's where I am now.
01:42:50.320
And he's, he's fucking doing the exact same thing.
01:42:53.560
The exact fucking same thing that he was doing 10 years ago.
01:42:59.260
He's drunk as fuck eating, eating a fucking sandwich in the middle of the street, falling
01:43:09.380
It's funny, but it's also like, this is really fucking sad though.
01:43:14.020
You know, like there's something that's also really, really sad about this.
01:43:20.260
Cause I remember thinking, yeah, but like, I don't, I miss going out and getting drunk,
01:43:26.200
And then I'd like, think about it and it's like, yeah, that was funny, but like, it's
01:43:30.400
Like that whole, that whole like genre of humor is kind of like fucking sad in a way.
01:43:39.380
Cause edgy was kind of talking about how, you know, trailer park boys made it seem kind of
01:43:46.860
And it's like, no, no, actually like, if you really look at what they're pointing out,
01:43:53.580
This is only like a, maybe a 20, 25% deviation from what a lot of people, how a lot of people
01:44:01.440
Like he said, this is a 12% exaggeration of what it's like.
01:44:05.020
And so it's like, it's funny, but the, also the idea of it is like, this is actually like
01:44:19.180
I've seen it in person and, uh, Leahy before he died, uh, like he wasn't drinking because
01:44:25.440
he was going to die if he kept drinking more and then he did die anyways.
01:44:30.900
And I think that the, the kind of crown jewel when it comes to Hollywood movies would probably
01:44:35.540
be something like hangover where it's like, Whoa, it's such a crazy night, bro.
01:44:41.140
And it's like, sometimes when people black out in Vegas, they die.
01:44:46.720
Like it's, you know, like it's, uh, it's not always like, Oh, you get to meet Mike Tyson
01:44:51.180
and you get to like, you know, piss and like his tigers there in your hotel room.
01:44:55.440
You know, like that's weird fucking fantasy where you all blackout drunk.
01:44:59.800
And like, you have just such a grand, crazy time and it's just so much fun.
01:45:07.400
The hangover nor like romanticizing being blackout drunk.
01:45:16.940
That's another kind of like mental trick that I realized when I was getting clean, which
01:45:20.320
is like, you know, what is 100 times better than going out and partying with your friends
01:45:29.960
You know, it's a hundred million times better than that.
01:45:43.900
It could be like the hangover, like the anticipation is this amazing movie that is like, wow, I can't
01:45:52.280
Then the actual thing, if you zoom in on the actual thing, boy, is it fucking depressing
01:45:58.480
You're waiting in line to spend more money at the bar to fucking, you know, like, you
01:46:02.620
know, stand with your boys in a corner, like fucking looking for the pussy or whatever.
01:46:07.420
And then you go home and smoke weed and it's just like, oh, I ate all this fucking food.
01:46:18.500
Like occasionally, like one night out of 20, like maybe something interesting and fun will
01:46:22.260
happen, but like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fucking, oh man, if you're honest
01:46:27.960
with yourself, bruh, maybe that's just me, right?
01:46:42.200
It took me a while to figure out just what it meant to get blackout drunk, like, and what
01:46:52.060
Like, I think, I feel like I was in denial in my early, uh, my late high school and early
01:46:59.340
Like I would hear about something I did the night before that I didn't remember.
01:47:03.840
And I would think, oh, that was maybe like 10, 20 minutes that I, that I lost memory when
01:47:13.520
Like, that's pretty scary to know that you could just not know what you were doing and
01:47:24.100
And only in this society now where we have an extended adolescence with university where
01:47:30.480
it's like adult daycare in some ways, can you get away with that?
01:47:34.460
And then reality comes and hits you as like, as you go into the real world and realize
01:47:54.360
This one here, uh, Ram three says I've smoked weed.
01:47:59.540
I'm not going to lie and say I dropped it in the day.
01:48:04.540
And just the habit of it is difficult to, to drop, not including the mental stuff.
01:48:19.780
So I'm thinking he's talking about the, the popper bottles.
01:48:24.400
When you, uh, stick the piece into the fucking, uh, water bottle and you smoke weed.
01:48:38.800
This is a very recurring, uh, thing that I've seen a lot in that vice group.
01:48:44.580
It's probably the most common one is, is weed and people saying how hard it is.
01:48:48.840
And like, this is kind of the, like, whenever I was going off on the drinking and dope culture,
01:48:53.100
like, this is a lot of the people that were responding to me is like, yeah, I do it.
01:48:56.820
But like, I, like, I I'm totally functional, man.
01:49:10.940
And if you're like that, imagine not smoking weed, like imagine how much better you would
01:49:17.760
It's just immediately like the people's reaction to that is like, oh, like they haven't even
01:49:23.100
considered trying to quit it because they've been doing it for so long that, and they're
01:49:27.600
Like, I'm not saying they're not, they are, but it's like, can you, can you quit if you
01:49:33.480
And a lot of people are like finding out, I think, especially in the past two days that
01:49:40.380
And, and then all the, there was a couple of people that like, I won't say names, but
01:49:44.840
like they straight up admit it's like, yeah, I thought this was like a habit that I could
01:49:51.160
Like I'm having physical withdrawals and like they don't smoke cigarettes.
01:49:55.360
They don't, it's not like they're doing anything else.
01:49:59.260
I'm having trouble just not smoking weed for a day.
01:50:02.920
Like I'm having physical withdrawals from not smoking weed for a day.
01:50:09.080
So I guess it hits each individual person differently.
01:50:12.820
And you got to remember like physical addiction and mental addiction, physical and mental are,
01:50:25.200
I'm, I have my own kind of theory on all this, but, but I, I really do think that there
01:50:29.900
is, you know, an analogy is like, there's a devil on your shoulder.
01:50:33.920
There's an angel on your shoulder, uh, maybe, or another version would be like, there's,
01:50:38.360
there's the conscious you that wants to do good.
01:50:40.100
And then there's like the addict you that just wants to like self-destruct and just like
01:50:44.740
Um, and I, and I feel like, especially when you're thinking about quitting something,
01:50:53.420
Like, like there's part of you that's going to be like, oh, I want to quit this.
01:50:57.640
And like, I can quit this and I'm going to quit this.
01:50:59.300
But the other part of you is like, no, like, I'm going to find any excuse to, to use again
01:51:07.940
And it's like, if you're having this struggle, then that's a sign, you know, like, cause,
01:51:15.360
cause if you were a totally functional stoner and everything was cool, then you probably
01:51:20.500
wouldn't your casual use of marijuana, but it's like, there's a, there's a reason why
01:51:27.100
And it's probably because you're like, maybe I could reach more of a potential.
01:51:32.960
And there's something admirable about that, right?
01:51:35.600
Like that is you wanting to improve your situation.
01:51:41.000
And I, again, like I said it earlier, like, you know, it's easier said than done, but the,
01:51:47.040
the, the little addict piece of shit inside of you want that wants you to
01:51:50.340
self-destruct, it's very good at, uh, persuading you in various different ways.
01:51:55.960
And one way is to be like, you suck, you're a piece of shit.
01:52:02.680
It's really good at like spinning that narrative to, to like push you over the edge, to get
01:52:08.860
But, um, but yeah, like, like, look at the positives, you know, look at the positives
01:52:14.120
that, that, that, like someone told me this, and I think it's kind of inspiring,
01:52:18.720
which is even if you're thinking about quitting or stopping or taking a break, even just thinking
01:52:32.480
Even though you haven't done anything yet, it's still like a sign that, okay, I want to
01:52:38.820
I want to possibly take a step in the right direction.
01:52:40.960
So, you know, maybe this sounds a little bit too, like, let's all hold hands, but it's
01:52:46.220
like, you should try to congratulate yourself for even having thoughts like that.
01:52:50.080
And even thinking about things like that, because it's, um, you know, it's a sign that
01:52:54.980
you, yeah, you love yourself and that you, you want to try to, you know, improve, improve
01:53:00.260
And, and it's not other people saying it, right.
01:53:06.420
I want, I want to try to change things for the better.
01:53:09.640
Um, but yeah, it's a, it's, it's not going to be easy, but it gets better.
01:53:21.200
That reminds me of, uh, yeah, I'm done for the day.
01:53:26.820
Some people are so deep in like their shit that like they'll make posts on social media.
01:53:32.580
Like I brushed my hair today and that was good enough.
01:53:36.040
Now I, I feel bad for anyone that's that, that, that damn bad, but, um, I, there is
01:53:44.580
something definitely, that's certainly fucked up if you're posting on social media about
01:53:49.340
I think there might be something else wrong there.
01:53:51.940
Uh, you know, that sounds like a cry for help to me.
01:53:57.320
But, but I get what you're saying, Greg, like you need to not beat yourself up while also
01:54:06.040
Because if you just increase like self-hatred over messing up or, you know, not going as
01:54:13.100
far as you wanted to with it, then that, that's not going to help really.
01:54:22.340
Uh, donkey dong along saying pardons for being late.
01:54:27.680
Just got to run in five K in 30, 30 minutes and 50 seconds.
01:54:42.680
Oh, we didn't, we didn't go around the whole, uh, the whole circle here in terms of what,
01:54:48.400
Here, let me just finish this, uh, super chat and then it'll be good to get into that,
01:54:52.560
but it's probably not a good thing because it just means my distaste will become more
01:55:07.000
You're taking this seriously and you're getting motivated and inspired by this.
01:55:10.520
Here, let me just run through the rest of these chats.
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Uncle Kenny given $3 saying everyone do shrooms live in the audience also.
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I'm not the kind of guy that likes to do shrooms around many people or in these situation,
01:55:26.500
I like it as like, uh, like what fairy was saying, take the huge amount and, you know,
01:55:33.100
Although I can do it, you know, actually, uh, a couple of years ago when I was with Derek
01:55:39.020
and, uh, our old friend Tom was having a meltdown.
01:55:44.380
We were on shrooms that whole time and experiencing like the fall crazy fallout of our former friend,
01:55:50.320
uh, in a very distressing situation and I got through it while high on shrooms and that was
01:56:09.920
So Ram three says I did a seven grams and tried watching the rage cast.
01:56:14.520
He ended up talking about demonic books named Thomas and haunted execution rooms.
01:56:31.500
Uh, I don't think psychedelics and live streaming, uh, really go great together.
01:56:35.720
I don't even think alcohol and live streaming go well together.
01:56:43.900
Well, uh, you were saying we should go around with the rest of the people and what they're
01:56:55.140
Uh, for me, it is no phone after midnight and keep the phone out of my room where I sleep.
01:57:04.020
I was in a good habit of that like last year and I need to get back into it.
01:57:09.980
It's only been a couple of days, but it's, it's been, uh, positive.
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I feel like your sleep schedule will thank you for it.
01:57:24.120
And your attention span, the dope, the dopamine detox that you'll be having, your mind will,
01:57:29.700
uh, be at ease instead of being, you know, consumed by whatever you're looking at on your
01:57:41.100
It's like starting my day with the phone right away is like not the best way to start the
01:57:48.440
And also it's, it's, it's nicer to give my mind some time away from, from my phone leading
01:58:08.320
Like, like, do you notice that your phone, if you don't look at it for a long time, it
01:58:12.360
will create notifications so that you look at it.
01:58:22.960
That is why I've turned them like all they're all off.
01:58:25.380
So when you're not looking at your phone now for moratorium may, you've shut your phone
01:58:30.540
No, I've, I've, for a while I've had like all the notifications off and then like, I'll
01:58:35.300
I'll check each like app when I, when I have time to do it, but.
01:58:38.620
Cause I've heard of this thing where people are trying to quit looking at their phones,
01:58:42.040
but they'll feel like phantom vibrations, like as if their phone's going off, but it's
01:59:01.740
It's just my body creating some sort of sensation in my brain that I'm getting a notification
01:59:08.840
Totally, totally normal 21st century, just a 21st century human thing where you feel your
01:59:14.980
leg vibrating for no reason because you're chronically looking at your phone.
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I feel it with my, uh, I feel my leg vibrating.
01:59:31.180
Cause I think I'm getting a text message and it's just, I don't have vibrate on.
01:59:34.380
So it, uh, just might like vibrating for some reason or like, it's like a phantom thing,
01:59:40.900
That was a very good Milton impression there from Office Space.
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I see, I see, I see the, the squirrels are tied and they're married.
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It says proof that our society is screwed up is right in front of us.
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Look, I think it's impossible to not get addicted to things in this modern society, even if it's
02:00:16.600
your phone or social media to some extent, right?
02:00:30.660
We're surrounded by anything that's going to addict you to whatever it is.
02:00:34.600
There's everything around us that is meant to on purpose tempt us to engage in sin or I'm
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That's what they, they want us to be addicted and docile and just disgusting.
02:00:58.780
And, and, and think, imagine you're, as I mean, especially in Toronto, but imagine you
02:01:03.200
get a room full of like a hundred different people and you share something with all of
02:01:07.320
them and you're like, Hey, you know, I casually drink, I smoke weed every day.
02:01:16.480
But if you go out there and you're like, Oh yeah, I'm a Christian.
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They'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with this person?
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I think you hit, I was kind of talking about this last night on the, um, on the after party.
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And it's like this inversion of morality that is, that goes on.
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It's exactly that exactly what you just described.
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The idea of being a, uh, you know, a sober, like just to like, let's take, for example,
02:01:49.460
Cause they're kind of kooky, but it's like, they're sober, like family oriented, community
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And if you've ever met one in person, you'll, you'll be like, this person's fucking weird.
02:02:01.400
When in reality, it's just like, no, they're just actually a super well-adjusted, very sociable,
02:02:07.920
And that is weird to you because you're used to dealing with assholes that are on drugs
02:02:16.280
Like there's this absolute inversion that's gone on.
02:02:18.560
And it's like that part, part of why I started going off about the drinking and dope is because
02:02:22.720
like, for fuck's sakes, we all know that they want you to do that.
02:02:26.600
Does anybody, does anybody not think that at this point, do they care?
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Do they care if you're drunk and high playing video games and, you know, watching sports ball
02:02:36.360
the time, jerking off the porn constantly, like, you know, just engaging in every degenerate
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In fact, I would say the extent to which they care is, is that you become unproductive and,
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If you're not a milk producing GDP cattle, then you get, you know, that's a problem.
02:02:56.960
I put out, I put out that George Carlin quote earlier and it's like, they just want you
02:03:01.280
smart enough to be able to operate a machine and nothing else.
02:03:05.620
They don't want you realizing like what's going on or anything like that.
02:03:09.300
They just want you at a certain level where you can operate a machine and that's it.
02:03:13.160
And so like, it's, it's odd to me that when you have this group of people that knows exactly,
02:03:20.600
Or, or, or at least, you know, if you've been around for any length of time, you would understand
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I like contributing to GDP so we can Slava together.
02:03:35.840
You got to make that money for fucking Ukraine, man.
02:03:44.780
But it, where I was going with that is like, we all know this.
02:03:47.860
And so it's, it's odd to me that you have all these people who understand this and yet
02:03:52.340
they're still getting drunk and high all the time.
02:03:57.400
They're not, it's like, you know, they understand these things that they don't care if you're
02:04:03.000
drunk and high all the time, but it's difficult to translate that from like, okay, well, that's
02:04:08.760
also the thing that numbs you to the fact that they want you drunk and high all the time.
02:04:14.600
It's like, these are the ways that like you, okay, the world is fucked up.
02:04:22.240
I'm just going to, you know, get drunk and high because that's the easy or, you know,
02:04:25.640
I'm going to escape with video games or sports ball or, or any of these things so that I can
02:04:39.580
And, you know, I thought it was funny that there was a bunch of people in the comments
02:04:43.660
in, in the vice page that were like, man, watching rage cast without something to take
02:04:59.780
It's good that you're aware that you understand.
02:05:01.980
And yes, it's okay to blow off steam and, and zone out, you know, like you were saying,
02:05:06.740
Greg, last night, like you need that kind of escapism to a degree, but if you're engaging
02:05:11.960
in it constantly, that's where it becomes a problem.
02:05:14.520
And I don't know, I was noticing a lot of people were engaging in it constantly.
02:05:18.400
And even like, I thought almost funnier than the drugs and alcohol one is the sports ball
02:05:25.440
Um, actually have a list of your, uh, sports ball posts here.
02:05:34.620
Well, where I was going with that is like, I think the biggest of, of all the vices that
02:05:39.920
I've kind of like, you know, leveled my gun at and started shooting at recently.
02:05:44.680
Um, one of the ones that got the biggest pushback was sports ball.
02:05:54.300
It's, it's crazy how, how, if you go and you, uh, if you, if you post something that's
02:06:03.200
anti-sports ball on Twitter, you're going to get people that come in and they shit talk
02:06:07.820
And then like, they have like, you know, there's like four or five like generic responses that
02:06:13.700
And if you click on their profiles, every single fucking one is like somebody that's
02:06:27.640
People take it more personally than the drugs because they don't view it as a vice.
02:06:31.440
They view it as something that's, that's positive.
02:06:34.220
And it's like, man, how is it positive that you spend, you know, your, your entire life
02:06:38.300
that you're the vast majority of your focus is on this fucking game for 20 year olds.
02:06:43.180
It's 20 year old millionaires and you're jerking off to their statistics.
02:06:53.220
Yeah, it's, uh, it makes me think of the whole, I don't know if anyone's done this skit before
02:07:00.920
maybe, but it's like, oh man, uh, Eric isn't here drinking a beer with us and watching the
02:07:09.460
Like the ritual of sports ball and like the idolatry of these, of these like amazing, uh,
02:07:16.060
players and like, oh my God, like they're, they're so talented and it, it really is kind
02:07:23.640
Who's criticizing our, our lifestyle of just, you know, boozing three hours, three hours
02:07:30.240
Um, and it's like, I, I bet you could make the comparison of like, you know, would you
02:07:35.440
get more flack for, you know, shitting on Christians saying something about Christians
02:07:41.120
and how they're fucked up or criticizing sports ball.
02:07:44.420
It's like, you'll probably get more of a more, uh, backlash for criticizing sports ball
02:07:48.180
because it's seen as this much more like, you know, culturally significant thing in Canada
02:07:57.720
I kind of put the, I posted this on Twitter earlier, but let's just play through this hypothetical.
02:08:03.340
If they banned sports, like, you know, I know, I know this is ridiculous.
02:08:07.200
They would never do it, but like, let's just say hypothetically, all major league sports
02:08:12.240
There's, there's no, there's, there's no broadcast.
02:08:16.700
The NBA, the MLB, the NHL, the NFL, MLS, English premier league, every top sports league
02:08:28.420
Think, think about the reaction that you would get from men in this country.
02:08:35.580
That would make them go, this government is fucking crazy.
02:08:41.900
Something needs to be done about this fucking, they're trying to ban sports.
02:08:48.340
They're just trying to control what you can and can't see on the internet.
02:08:50.700
They're trying to tell you what you have to put in your body.
02:08:53.920
And they're telling you, they're telling you whether or not you're allowed to go to
02:08:58.200
They're telling you whether or not you're allowed to go to certain businesses.
02:09:02.460
They're, they're telling you that they're going to take your, your, your legal property
02:09:08.120
They're telling you that they're going to control every aspect of your life, but God forbid
02:09:17.620
Well, but the thing is, is they did all that and they, and it started by banning sports
02:09:22.620
and they said, we're going to do all this to you, but there's a deadly virus though.
02:09:30.740
The canceling sports ironically, or coincidentally was the thing that woke people up to, Oh,
02:09:36.680
I guess, I guess that virus thing is significant because they canceled the NBA, you know,
02:09:45.860
There's like all this, all this like alarming shit online where it's like, yo, uh, what's
02:09:56.420
And everyone's like, Whoa, we're shutting down society.
02:09:59.160
It was funny how sports ball was like the thing that actually woke people up to, Oh, I guess
02:10:05.340
So here's one close up 99 has a good comment here and I'm going to tear it apart, but it
02:10:12.200
And this was brought up to me a couple of times.
02:10:23.280
And you know what, you know what I find very ironic about that comment is that that
02:10:27.960
was what one thing that made people take it very seriously.
02:10:35.340
Well, we better mask up until we get our good sports ball back.
02:10:38.780
The first, the first indication I got that there might be lockdowns in my personal life.
02:10:45.540
I like, I don't know if there was rumblings about it before, because I wasn't really
02:10:48.140
paying attention because I thought it was fucking nonsense and it was, but, uh, the first
02:10:53.100
indication I got that there was going to be some form of lockdown was my army sergeant
02:10:58.000
sent me an email and he was like, yeah, so we're canceling basic training.
02:11:02.900
Uh, it looks like we're shutting down all non-essential operations until further notice.
02:11:08.060
And I was just like, really, they're taking it that seriously.
02:11:27.720
If, if we can't have NHL playoffs, my God, this must be something that we need to pay
02:11:33.920
So it was like, uh, you might think that that was like an indicate, well, they canceled
02:11:39.960
They canceled sports long enough to make people take it seriously and to be afraid.
02:11:45.240
And then as soon as it got to a point where people were starting to reach their limit,
02:11:49.760
They brought back fucking sports ball some summer of 2020.
02:12:14.000
So, so that would be my, that would be my response to that is no, they can't, they,
02:12:18.600
they suspended it long enough so that people would take it seriously, like they did with
02:12:23.080
And then as soon as it became too much, they started allowing it to happen again.
02:12:27.380
Because people needed that distraction without that distress.
02:12:30.920
Imagine if there wasn't sports on TV, if they weren't being, uh, you know, imagine if
02:12:35.620
they had said, no, we're not going to sell alcohol.
02:12:38.760
We're not going to have sports, all of those things.
02:12:41.740
Imagine if they canceled Netflix during the lockdowns.
02:12:46.500
So they, they, they slowly let these things back into your life so that you wouldn't get
02:12:53.320
And so, yeah, imagine if they did that now, that's my whole point.
02:12:57.020
If they just said, no, no, no, this isn't because of a pandemic.
02:13:01.820
We're just going to, no, no, it's, it's an unnecessary thing.
02:13:08.560
Everybody would lose their fucking minds, but holy shit.
02:13:11.840
There's, there's, there's drag queens dancing with their dicks out in front of kids.
02:13:17.920
The government is telling you that you're not allowed to work unless you take a medical
02:13:25.500
Hey man, they're going to cancel the NHL playoffs.
02:13:42.520
It's the middle of the playoff season for Christ's sake.
02:13:48.220
Uh, Rick freedom has a comment in chat, which I find very offensive.
02:13:51.760
Rick freedom says watching sports is effeminate.
02:13:55.560
I enjoy watching my sports for three hours a night, watching my hockey game.
02:14:01.100
And yes, I'm sitting on a butt plug at the same time, but there's nothing at all about
02:14:09.100
Like, I just want to look, there's nothing wrong with enjoying sports occasionally.
02:14:20.100
Like enjoying it is different than turning it into a fucking religion, which is what so
02:14:28.900
It's their thing that they need to fill that void in their life without it.
02:14:36.100
No, I was going to bring this up last night when you were doing the after party, which
02:14:40.040
is essentially like, I have a friend who is a Habs fan and you know, I thought, okay,
02:14:47.540
He watches every regular season game, but I was hanging out with him while he was watching.
02:14:53.080
The Habs could not possibly even make the playoffs.
02:14:57.580
They could not make the playoffs, but he is still watching the final minutes of the final
02:15:03.300
game of like, literally, you know, like it's like an icing and the guy's like skating
02:15:07.920
He's like watching every single fucking minute.
02:15:15.400
Like, I guess the outcome of this game might determine if we get a first round pick next
02:15:24.900
There's another thing about this too, which is like, it's fucking endless.
02:15:28.420
And whether it's, it's different leagues or not, it's okay.
02:15:32.600
What guys, what happens whenever the Toronto Maple Leafs inevitably go out in the second or third
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round or, or it's going to be hilarious if they make it to the cup and lose, that would
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be, but you know, what, what, what's going to inevitably happen regardless whenever the
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What, what are all these sports ball fans going to do next?
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No, they're going to go on to the next sport, whatever it is.
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I'm going to watch 162 fucking baseball games next that are like four hours long.
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Like I was talking about the, the timing, like dude, baseball games are like four hours
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And then what happens whenever baseball season's over?
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And then, and then, or, and the Leafs start up again and the CFL and the fucking Raptors
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and the fucking, oh, you can't forget the world juniors bent, man.
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And, and you know, to tie that to the whole, like, you know, alcoholism thing or drinking
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thing, I had roommates in university and it was like Sunday night.
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It was Sunday night, Rob, but also Sunday night football.
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And then there was Monday night, uh, wrestling.
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And then there was all what, like NC two a on Tuesday or some shit.
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And it's like every single night they'd have, there was an excuse to like, let's drink.
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And it's like, there's always like some sports ball or something like, you know, sports
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And it's like, yeah, of course that's the ritual, bro.
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It's like, look, it's just, uh, it's endless with this shit.
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And I, I, dude, it's so funny how people react to it.
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Uh, like this is the, this is like the challenge I would like to issue to, you know, the sports
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I think people are tired of hearing others telling them how they should live their lives.
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Just drink the booze, watch the sports ball, smoke the weed and jerk off to the porn.
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But yeah, I'm glad that whatever time I wasted with, uh, you know, whether it's alcohol or
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drugs that I think it was somewhat in a pursuit of something creative that I wanted to construct
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I didn't know how to do it, especially with the drugs.
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Like I, I felt like it was helping me be more creative.
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And then eventually I started putting in the work more and I would actually create stuff.
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Probably could have done it quicker without the drugs.
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But it's like being creative and constructive versus being passive, which is what all these
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people are doing when they're spending their nights watching three, four hours of a fucking
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sports game, uh, putting all their energy into that.
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It's literally just like pure extended leisure time.
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Do you imagine you have nothing to show for it?
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Maybe Lee can chime in here too, but like, I, I think this is very true.
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I've seen this happen with so many couples where it's like, um, imagine like your, your
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guy is just hyper-focused, you know, every night on what other men are doing.
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They're, they have these, these, you know, little leagues that they play in where they
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draft other men so that they can manage the little team of men and like, you know, set
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their lineups and like, well, I hope my, I hope my guys do well tonight.
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Like, why are you so obsessed with fucking 20 year old men?
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What, why are you, why are you obsessed with what these other men are doing?
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Cause there's literally grown men who live their lives playing video games.
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Uh, that, that, that's definitely, uh, another route.
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If you're playing video games and collecting Funko pops, then you're in a new, a whole new pit
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of despair and soy boys, which is like a world that we don't even, if we want to get to the
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actual crux of the problem, it's called suspended adolescence where a man does not want to grow
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up and deal with his responsibilities as a man, for instance, go to work.
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Um, they invented the, the category of the teenager.
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Now you could be a rebel without a cause like James Dean.
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You could have this extended, like, from what I understand back, back in the good old days,
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you would go from being a kid to being a man, you know, you'd go through a rite of passage.
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You had to work, you, you had families earlier.
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Now they have this extended adolescence where, uh, it opened up a window for you to rebel against
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your parents and define yourself as different from them.
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And it was part of this cultural shift that, uh, where the people who are in charge were seeking
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to rip people away from their families, from their traditions, from their culture and, uh,
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And this extended adolescence plays into all of that.
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And now you have universities, like I was saying before, basically extended daycares for,
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Um, and there's something that I was going to jump back to on that tweet too, which is
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hilarious to me is like this idea of, cause I was talking about sports ball and drinking
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and getting high in that tweet that the guy responded to with the fuck you make me.
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It's like, dude, I'm not, I'm not telling you how to live your life.
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I was like, why are, why are all these men like wasting their lives, smoking weed, getting
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Like, like, is this really what's important right now?
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And his response is like, that's such a, a fucking teenager response.
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Make me like, no, man, I'm, I'm not, I'm not telling you what to do.
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I'm saying like, is this really what you want to do?
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Is this really what you want to do with your life?
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That's like something a 17 year old girl would say to their parents when they tell them
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A big agree with all that you just said there though.
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Uncle Kenny saying he's waiting for somebody to give up pulling it.
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Well, you shouldn't be doing that anyways, for one.
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If you're doing that, you just got to cut that out forever anyways.
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I, I, I don't know if you were in the after party last night, but I talked to Jeremy about
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It's like, there's a lot of people that are very forward with their vices and that,
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And they're talking about like what they're doing.
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You know, it's one, I haven't seen one person say that they're quitting on there is porn.
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It's the one, it's the one thing that's like really embarrassing to admit, isn't it?
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And I guarantee you like with this, what, what is the audience right now?
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I guarantee you there's at least like 10 guys that are watching too much porn in,
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It's embarrassing because you shouldn't be doing it.
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That should tell you everything you need to know.
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The fact that you're embarrassed to admit that you're watching too much porn should tell
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you everything you need to know about why you have to stop it.
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I mean, if you have urges to just don't go to the porn, like that's a whole new level
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of mindfuck that you're introducing into your life.
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Like that is the enemy's propaganda right there in the basement of your spirit, bro.
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That's like, that's like step one, uh, instead of, instead of using porn, like I swear to God,
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like I'm not even joking, go to old, go old school, go get a porn mag.
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If, if you know, you're watching too much porn, go get like a, a literal pornographic magazine
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And then once, once you've, uh, you know, you've stopped jerking off to porn and you're
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using porn mag, then, then switch to the fucking Sears catalog.
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And if that's not good enough, then, you know, you've got a problem.
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If you should be able to just use your imagination, if, if you need to get off and then eventually
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Kaboobo saying, if you're watching too much porn, you're jerking off too much.
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I think this was during no, not November where I was being especially deranged.
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Uh, but we, uh, if you want to creep and peep on somebody and do your voyeurism that you're
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doing, when you're watching porn, you should have to go climb up a tree, use binoculars and
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do it the old fashioned way, or you don't get to do it.
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How about you just get a wife or a girlfriend like normal people?
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But part of the problem is a lot of these guys are socially awkward because they're
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jerking off too much and they don't know how to quit porn because they're addicted to
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I I'm literally just laying out like that to me.
02:26:15.440
If you're watching too much porn, there's, there's the step in the right direction.
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Stop watching porn, use a magazine or something, and then get that fucking, you know, uh, monkey
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Do you think there's any solutions to, uh, you know, the government banning porn?
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Um, there was a state where they were going to age restrict pornography.
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So then Pornhub just completely blocked access, access to it in that state.
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Louisiana was talking about that, but somebody can look it up.
02:27:05.760
It seems like the Midwest and the Southern states are, some of them are setting some precedents,
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like, for example, making it so that you need like three years of therapy or so before
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And, uh, obviously Utah here, at least taking some step to banning porn.
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A lot of, a lot of libertarian bros hate that, but dude, porn is like the greasiest fucking
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They try to equate it to freedom of speech, but like, this is, there used to be a difference
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It's like, okay, first of all, like if you just go through what porn is, it's fucking
02:28:00.760
First of all, it targets primarily underage girls.
02:28:07.840
They want them the moment they turn 18, the moment they're old enough to consent in, in
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the, uh, you know, jurisdiction that they live in, they want them.
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Most of them were approached to do porn before they turned 18.
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When you go on, you're witnessing crimes and potentially participating in them to some
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Tofu porn is prostitution by proxy a hundred percent.
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And it's, yeah, it's insane how prostitution illegal yet.
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But, uh, if you film it now, it's somehow legal.
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And, uh, and, and if you don't, if you're against it, then you're some kind of weird
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Christian or bigot who's sexually repressed, or at least that's what the mainstream sex
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That's what you're selling to them for the free porn.
02:29:19.920
And then on top of that too, like, like I did the deep dive on porn years ago, like,
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you know, where I really kind of like, because I, yeah, I was watching it and I started noticing
02:29:33.400
that it was getting more and more fucking weird.
02:29:35.680
Like, just like the shit that would come up in like the porn hub, you know, uh, you know,
02:29:42.020
most watched daily, most watched or whatever was like fucking mom, son porn.
02:29:51.000
Seems like they're trying to break up the family or pervert it and twist it.
02:29:55.920
Tofu sister porn fucking like, uh, you know, like, like all kinds of like dominatrix shit.
02:30:02.260
Like, um, it, it wasn't even fucking porn anymore.
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Like it was obviously what, yeah, all taboo shit.
02:30:07.680
That's exact caboo, but that's the best way to summarize it.
02:30:10.420
Everything that was taboo or fucking, you know, considered to be, um, out of place was all
02:30:20.360
Like the percentages of porn that is like incest now is like I, when I did this, it was like
02:30:29.360
And like, I, like I, I, I know talking about this stuff is, I can see the look on Lee's
02:30:34.780
face and I know this is not a topic that's fun to engage in, but it's like, that's it
02:30:43.540
Like the exact, it's like noticing this and then saying like, isn't it kind of fucked up
02:30:56.540
Like all of these questions, like, like why, why is, uh, why is fucking, uh, like, I think
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I got into this with you once I do like, there's this huge undercurrent of like tranny hypnosis
02:31:10.200
It's like, are you telling me like sissy hypnosis where they're like, they're there.
02:31:14.580
And it is like, if you go look at it, there's people who have done again, like these guys
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are the, the people that have done the research on this.
02:31:21.100
They're either people who are recovering from it or they're people who like, uh, God bless
02:31:26.560
Cause like, I couldn't sit through what you might get a hit piece against you by media
02:31:33.380
You know, the same people working with the, with the DNC, the same people, uh, uh, the
02:31:39.380
founder of this, David Brock, the former boyfriend of James Aliphantus of Comet Ping
02:31:45.780
Pong Pizza, you know, pizza gate of pizza gate pain.
02:31:51.040
Uh, they're doing a hit piece against, uh, Michael Knowles cause he warns people of hypnosis
02:32:04.200
First of all, like you can go look again, I, I wouldn't advise going and trying to find
02:32:11.160
There's people who have made documentaries about it.
02:32:13.100
So if you go to like, I don't know, I forget the names of them because they're very obscure.
02:32:17.240
Like this is, I said, I did this deep dive years ago.
02:32:19.880
This is why I fucking, I hate porn so much because I looked into all this stuff and stopped
02:32:23.980
watching it because I realized what it was becoming and like, I, you know, how greasy
02:32:28.660
the industry is and, and all the, it's, it's, it's fucking AIDS.
02:32:32.360
It's societal AIDS and nobody wants to talk about it.
02:32:35.980
Or at least if they do, it's, it's very like casual.
02:32:41.140
And it, to me, it's similar to like, um, you know, everybody's willing to talk about
02:32:47.380
the tranny stuff, but very few people are willing to like, okay, here's what it actually
02:32:52.020
Here's the photo of a phalloplasty, look at it and understand what this really is, because
02:32:59.820
So this hypnosis shit is like, it starts, if you go look at these documentaries, it starts
02:33:07.260
with like, you know, you start watching regular porn, right?
02:33:11.320
Just to whatever normal, just a guy and a girl having sex.
02:33:15.540
And then you slowly want more because you want that bigger and bigger dopamine hit, or
02:33:23.260
You start watching more and more taboo stuff, right?
02:33:27.040
It, it, it, that this happens with everybody that gets into porn.
02:33:30.540
They start going, you know, indulging into fetishes that they, they didn't previously.
02:33:35.200
The dopamine comes from novelty and shock that your brain, your brain on porn.com has a lot
02:33:44.920
Now I made the, I made the mistake of, uh, when I was younger thinking that, oh, they said
02:33:52.280
They said that, uh, you know, all the, uh, uh, uh, rap music is bad.
02:33:57.400
So I put porn into that same category, but like you said too, I started to realize how fucked
02:34:02.900
it was getting, and then I looked into it and I was like, never get, but like to answer
02:34:08.560
Lee's question, the, the short version of this is the, the, the pipeline usually is guys
02:34:15.240
get into like, uh, dominatrix or like female kind of supremacy stuff.
02:34:21.260
They, and they start going down into like humiliation porn and things like that.
02:34:25.300
And then they end up at this point where they're, they're getting off on their own humiliation.
02:34:30.800
And then it gets into, uh, like tranny and sissy hypnosis stuff where it's like, it's basically
02:34:38.500
They're just being flashed images of dicks because their brain has become so desensitized
02:34:43.080
They don't even know what's getting them off anymore.
02:34:45.700
The humiliation and like the, the, the, the triggers are what's getting them off.
02:34:57.260
And then all of a sudden there's, there's guys who admit this there's, there's trannies
02:35:00.880
out there that will admit, like, I, I came to this through porn.
02:35:19.520
Are you, are you, are you like, obviously, yeah.
02:35:23.000
I don't expect you to know a lot about porn, but like the pedophilia aspect of porn is
02:35:29.060
Like the, the, the, the infantilization of porn actors where they're wearing like little
02:35:37.340
Just look at Belltale Fiend, the popular YouTuber influencer slash only fans porn star.
02:35:43.580
And that's like her whole shtick is being like, he, he, he, he, and wearing these retarded
02:35:51.720
The, the, the whole, the, the daddy thing, like all of this stuff, right?
02:35:56.160
Now there's one thing, there's one thing I want to say, just the idea of sissy hypno,
02:36:01.020
like that's a fucking hilarious mean in and of itself.
02:36:06.260
Oh, all these jokes and memes are, they can be pretty funny.
02:36:10.000
But when you really think about it and talk it over, like we're talking right now, it
02:36:14.760
And it's just a sign of our, the decline of our society.
02:36:18.400
But however, it makes it very easy to laugh it off when people try to criticize it.
02:36:23.520
So for example, uh, this Michael Knowles guy is really onto something.
02:36:28.620
This is a serious conversation that they're having here.
02:36:31.600
And, uh, when I saw this on Twitter, it was all these leftists making fun of him, like
02:36:37.700
ratioing, whatever they, uh, you know, the, the alternative opinion basically saying, Oh,
02:36:44.980
I wonder what's on his porn history projection much, you know, I bet he's watching this, that
02:36:52.700
So it is hard to talk about it because they have this thing where they'll just say that
02:36:57.340
you're projecting and that you're some secret, you're actually secretly gay.
02:37:04.040
Cause you're, uh, you're blowing the whistle on it.
02:37:08.980
I've tried to talk to people about this before and they're like, how do you know this?
02:37:14.840
Cause I'll admit I was watching porn and I started seeing this stuff pop up like randomly
02:37:20.140
and like, you know, the most watched or like suggested and shit like that.
02:37:25.580
And you like, yeah, you click on it, you watch it and you're like, this fucked up.
02:37:29.480
And like, all of a sudden, like, you know, for a lot of people, it's like, okay, you might
02:37:34.840
And then you go down for me, it was like the wake up call.
02:37:39.680
Like, and like, obviously there's something wrong here.
02:37:42.520
And then I, I went and looked like, yeah, the, uh, your brain on porn.
02:37:46.480
Like I went to that website and I was, I learned a lot about, uh, this shit there.
02:37:51.220
And then I also, it's good to hear it from a scientific perspective, right?
02:37:57.920
That was whenever I came to this realization that it was fucked up and started looking into
02:38:03.180
And, uh, it, oddly enough, if you go to make MGTOW is big on this.
02:38:08.160
Um, I learned a lot about it whenever I did the MGTOW deep dive too, because they talk
02:38:16.380
That just means that you're an incel, you know, there's good information and like all of these
02:38:22.420
Well, a lot of MGTOW is just noticing what they're trying to do to men and then rejecting
02:38:28.420
Like, I have a, sorry, it goes too far in my opinion.
02:38:34.760
Like it, it, it becomes the complete rejection of women and just basically traditional values
02:38:40.920
And just like the, the, you know, embracing your own, uh, you know, loneliness, which is
02:38:46.640
kind of weird to me, but, um, they, they do make a lot of good points.
02:38:50.860
If you, if you actually take the time to look at what they're saying and why they're saying
02:38:54.500
it, they, they have a lot of good things to say.
02:38:56.860
They're just, they've kind of, to me, lost the plot, but.
02:39:00.140
Well, there is sort of like a shame that, that goes along with watching porn.
02:39:06.680
And, and like, honestly, I, I commend both of you for even bringing it up or talking about
02:39:12.120
it because a lot of people, like you said, won't, a lot of people won't even admit that
02:39:17.280
And so like, if this, like this sort of thing, like I'm literally just learning about when,
02:39:23.680
And I'm completely disgusted and I, and I think it needs to be talked about more.
02:39:28.820
Um, I just, yeah, I commend you guys for even bringing it up.
02:39:32.360
Cause not a lot of people are willing to even admit that they like watch porn or whatever.
02:39:38.100
Um, but it's definitely, it has to be talked about.
02:39:42.040
This is the other thing too, is it like, it becomes, okay.
02:39:44.820
Now you, you notice this, like, how do you even, this is why I say the people that have
02:39:49.280
taken the time to like, go through this stuff and like, kind of like curate it.
02:39:58.040
Cause it's either you're somebody who's actually enjoying this and you just know that it's
02:40:05.660
So like, you know, to compensate, like you've watched all this stuff and you've collected
02:40:09.680
all this information and then curated it into a, like a, you know, a piece.
02:40:15.480
But it's like, the, the, like, how do you analyze this without, you know, watching it?
02:40:24.860
Like, let's, let's use this as the example, like, think about like, uh, you know, detectives
02:40:30.460
or police and like, you know, uh, that have to look at the most heinous of crimes, like
02:40:40.780
Like there's, there's police officers that have to watch child rapes and analyze it.
02:40:47.820
Like imagine how hard that job is on you and you have to do it.
02:40:56.180
If you want to go after the people doing it, you need to collect the evidence.
02:40:59.600
So it's like, in order to combat this fucking porn epidemic, you're going to need these people
02:41:04.420
that are like, okay, like, this is going to fucking suck.
02:41:06.900
I'm going to have to sit through some terrible shit to, to attack this properly.
02:41:11.620
Just, just like, you know, like anything, if you want to go after communism, right?
02:41:16.020
If you want to understand, uh, you know, your enemy, you have to read Das Kapital, right?
02:41:22.780
Like you can't shy away from the, you have to understand your enemy to, to combat them.
02:41:27.380
And so like, there's going to be some people that have to make some, uh, it's going to suck.
02:41:33.640
Well, who, uh, when you think about people who are critical of porn and it's their main
02:41:39.500
thing to come at it, like at full force with like any scientific or logical argument against
02:41:53.360
People wouldn't be having all these problems that they need help for.
02:41:56.440
If like there wasn't an issue there, they wouldn't be feeling bad about it.
02:42:04.460
Can you even name any where that's specifically their thing?
02:42:08.020
There's literally just the, your brain on porn guy, Gary Wilson.
02:42:17.040
Well, there's, and like, there's also some, some people that were in the sex work industry
02:42:21.180
or, or like pornography that, that have come out against it.
02:42:24.580
And especially ex porn stars, like a lot of them, whenever they retire, they're like,
02:42:33.040
Um, and, and, you know, like, yeah, you can judge them because they did it, but it's
02:42:41.040
Jeremy, I've been saying it should be illegal for years.
02:42:46.920
Uh, it's one, and again, think about the re that would happen if you were like, yeah,
02:42:56.240
We're going to, we're going to treat porn the way that we want to treat hate memes.
02:43:09.300
Well, one of the, one of the, one of the people that I listened to that really had the
02:43:15.140
most anti-porn arguments I'd ever heard was eat Michael Jones.
02:43:19.120
I've heard many good porn arguments about the history and how, how this all came about,
02:43:24.420
how obscenity basically became legal and became pornography throughout the whole 20th
02:43:32.420
So vid, vid storm in the comments here actually has a hilarious one.
02:43:43.860
I think it was, it was either, I think it was Afghanistan, but they talked about how
02:43:52.040
And some of these warlords would be like, no, I don't need the money.
02:43:59.500
And they bribed them with fucking, you know, hours and hours of pornography.
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It seems like drugs, porn, that these are some of the things that, uh, that they bring
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to trade or they bring to conquer other, uh, civilizations.
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Well, you think about how the, the, uh, how the British empire in the Americans gave natives
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alcohol and it completely decimated their culture, right?
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Like almost immediately, once they started getting into drinking, they were on a downhill
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E. Michael Jones talks about how the Israelis, uh, when they would do, uh, like an attack
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on the Palestinians, they would take over their, uh, their TV stations and just put porn
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So that's all they could watch if they were to watch TV.
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Now, why would they do that other than to just disrupt the morality and like shock the
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people and give them just something that's alien to them to fuck with their heads?
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This is psycho porn is psychological warfare on the people.
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I'm not going to say it in its entirety or show it, but it says, this is from Al Goldstein.
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One of the, uh, the original pornographers that helped get it legal and lobbied for it to
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get legal throughout the 1900s says, the only reason that we are in pornography is that we
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Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture.
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And as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream, it's subversive character
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This is a person that really had a purpose for what they were doing.
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And you could see a lot of his co-ethnics in charge of the porn industry and the pushing
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I'm off the weed and the alcohol already not doing porn.
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I don't know if you want to say it once again, just to hype everybody up.
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One more, uh, one more topic before we go to leave it on a good note.
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It's something fucking satanic, you know, porn lovers say to try and make sense of, oh
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man, maybe, maybe we should, I might rape someone.
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Maybe we should lock people away in porn asylum.
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I think, I think he was joking, but yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's an argument that
02:47:21.520
Uh, yeah, no, I, I, uh, I'm doing the vape and, uh, I don't know for me, uh, the, the
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main thing was more of like, okay, let's focus more on doing things.
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Not necessarily quitting things, but like, cause they're like, I don't, yeah, you're
02:47:51.080
Well, I'm going to just say that my, the thing that I'm basically giving up the most is the
02:47:57.300
It, I got to a point where I wasn't really making a fool to myself, uh, fool of myself
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anymore, but you know, I really enjoyed those few beers and it was kind of a cope in order
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Like I look forward to that, uh, uh, but what goes up must come down.
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And, uh, I'd like to do without it and replace it with some, with a habit that I know is good
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that could help, help have an avalanche effect with all the other things I'm doing, like working
02:48:29.840
So like maybe instead of getting, going and getting those two or three beers, go and meditate
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or, you know, go do yoga, go do some stretches, you know, instead of putting that goyslop drink
02:48:42.680
into your stomach with all those estrogenic compounds, do something that's going to not
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be counterproductive to becoming a fucking ubermensch.
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And that is what they don't want you to be because yeah, this is real, uh, daily mail.
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So this is from 2017 says too much exercise can kill you, especially if you're a white
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So that's the part that makes me think like it's fake because this is like so ridiculously
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targeted that like, it's like, okay, so yeah, don't exercise.
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If you're a white man, that's, that's not good for you.
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Like God forbid, you know, you have a, you know, groups of fit white men roaming around
02:49:34.320
But if you do, you're probably really extreme and you're probably a dangerous, dangerous
02:49:40.220
If you go hiking and you're white, that's whoa, that's crazy.
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Look at 7.5 hours a week of fitness doubles your risk of heart.
02:49:55.240
Now I looked into this article and it seems like everybody in the comments is just calling
02:50:01.020
Like they're taking one measure of, of, uh, heart, the risk of heart disease, which is,
02:50:15.360
But when you actually look deeper into it, it does not equal 86 being 86 more likely to
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have a heart attack because you're white than a black, black person or whoever else.
02:50:29.780
Like, uh, they're, they're just completely fudging the metrics.
02:50:33.060
You know, they're doing their, their silly little alchemy with numbers and data in order
02:50:39.440
And like you said, possibly just be subversive.
02:50:51.140
No, if they're telling, if they're telling you that 7.5 hours of fitness, uh, a week is
02:51:55.280
Now that was from like maybe six or seven months ago, but I just did that exact same five sets
02:52:09.240
So I took like a month or a month or so of less training because I was sick and I fucked
02:52:16.440
Ironically, having a deranged workout with Shane Marshall, our good friend Pembles, having
02:52:21.680
a deranged workout at home with him, I kind of screwed up my shoulder so that, you know,
02:52:26.400
I didn't have any mobility over with it for a while, but now I'm getting back at it.
02:52:30.960
And with, uh, subtracting the alcohol, taking away from it every night, uh, I bet you I could
02:52:38.120
get back to doing eight, maybe 10 reps of that.
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Everybody's fucking, uh, criticizing Edgy's form here now.
02:52:54.700
You like, you film yourselves and then post it so we can all fucking criticize you guys.
02:53:11.320
No, for, for me, I plan on being way more active getting, I want to work out like maybe
02:53:17.820
I'm going to try for every day, but like, that's going to be my goal.
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I know I'm probably not going to fulfill it because that's, um, pretty extreme, but I want
02:53:31.700
That's, uh, that was my goal is to be way more active than I have been.
02:53:39.280
So now I'm going to use this to get motivated and come back in the swing of things.
02:53:45.060
Now, now the chat is butthurt because I, I, I threw it back at them.
02:54:03.600
I'm hoping one day maybe you'll just be on time if, if we roast.
02:54:08.960
It's just like one time, just be like, I'm 15 minutes early.
02:54:15.820
That's, you know, when, that's when things will really get going, you know?
02:54:20.060
Diaglon, Diaglon will be unstoppable, stoppable at that point.
02:54:24.200
Everybody will bitch about you, uh, being early.
02:54:31.680
Well, I think it's a good idea to get active every day.
02:54:34.700
I don't think that's, uh, an unreasonable goal at all.
02:54:37.140
And my advice would be do it first thing in the morning to get going, right?
02:54:42.600
Even if it's something small and then you could build off of it, maybe do another one
02:54:48.380
But if you start off the day with that, then you've got it in already and doesn't even have
02:54:54.120
to be long, like five, 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes, even.
02:55:03.260
Well, I'll see what it, if any, but if I missed any super chats, if anyone's saying
02:55:10.960
anything else in the chat, what the fuck are people saying about my deadlift form?
02:55:15.060
Um, uh, the ones criticizing are just looking out for edgy's health.
02:55:30.560
Look forward when lifting to keep your back straight and you'll be doing four plates in
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I, I could see that I wasn't fully extended all the way or, uh, I'm always working on the
02:55:52.620
Oh, we missed a super chat from, uh, donkey dong along.
02:55:55.820
Again, saying, this is the best time of year to make quick money and get rich.
02:55:59.780
Just take the craziest Maple Leaf fans and take bets with them.
02:56:07.600
Uh, you will get a lot of sports balls fans that are, are just on an endless supply of
02:56:13.920
So, you know, maybe you could, uh, cash in on that.
02:56:22.620
Well, do you guys have anything, uh, you want to say to end this off?
02:56:28.300
Um, pair up with somebody, uh, for moratorium may, uh, lean on each other so you can celebrate
02:56:46.340
Um, get, get those, uh, like fitness groups going, get, uh, get together and do it.
02:56:58.440
If anybody's doing anything around the London area or in the future, uh, the Hamilton area,
02:57:03.440
I'm fucking down to go, uh, whatever, man, whether it's boxing, some kind of martial
02:57:11.040
Anybody who, uh, who goes to a good life, uh, around this area, you know, I love to fucking
02:57:18.620
I just go solo and I do my thing, but yeah, if we do it together as a team and hype each
02:57:24.060
other up, who knows where we could go and who knows where we could go when Diagalon gets
02:57:30.780
sober, that's what they really don't want to happen.
02:57:45.720
Like Jeremy ascending, uh, to, to new heights and they, they can't go after the little, little,
02:57:53.440
uh, things anymore that they were going before.
02:57:55.640
Well, you know, drunken comments or this and that.
02:58:00.780
When they can't smear anymore, when the smears aren't working or when, when they can't find
02:58:07.760
I think it's, I think it's, uh, more than that.
02:58:10.300
I think, uh, like they, uh, to, to start this all off when Jeremy decided that he was
02:58:17.560
going to push people to meet in real life, you know, do the, the find your friends campaign.
02:58:23.240
That was whenever they started focusing on what we were doing.
02:58:26.140
Like that was whenever the CSIS investigations really kicked off was then they really don't
02:58:31.480
want people organizing in real life along political lines, but like, you know, community
02:58:45.180
They really don't like, you know, patriarchal turn.
02:58:50.780
They really hate, you know, like some of these resistant movements that are pushing the same
02:58:58.320
And it's not because their, uh, patriarchal alternative is being offensive or anything.
02:59:05.520
There's really nothing that is offensive to, to the average person with common sense.
02:59:10.840
It's not like the Goyim defense league or some of these clowns that are going around like,
02:59:15.500
uh, you know, trying purposely to be offensive and like vulgar.
02:59:19.600
No, they're, they're afraid about how normal it is and about how productive and inspiring it
02:59:39.200
They just want us in front of a computer screen.
02:59:41.180
They just want us docile, just trusting the plan and it, yeah, they don't want us accomplishing
02:59:51.920
It's like, yeah, the idea of a diagonal on that is sober and organizing in real life.
02:59:59.100
They don't like us online as it is like, that's, that's really, they're not going to
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Now on that note, uh, thank you guys for coming on.
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Me not having the usual couple of drinks before, but I think, I think it went well.
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Thank you all for watching and all those who donated.
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And here's some here a, some Xerius featuring here a to get you guys inspired as we end this
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I realized we have some super chats on, on, uh, intro.
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I did not think Odyssey would come through, but I'm going to read these quickly.
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So our cunning, uh, if they want to credit, uh, cunning, cunning draw says, if they want
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Says went to jujitsu class and hit a tea shop with an open mic.
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And another super chat saying he's hanging in there, but getting squirrely from not drinking
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Uh, and good on you for supporting a platform like, uh, Odyssey.