The EdgeStream with Edgy D - May 03, 2023


The EdgeStream - Moratorium May and Our War on Drugs (2023-05-02)


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

167.25548

Word Count

31,230

Sentence Count

2,654

Misogynist Sentences

41

Hate Speech Sentences

100


Summary

On this episode of The Edge Stream, we celebrate the life and career of the late rapper M.O.A.R.K.I.E. with special guests Harry Balzac and John Pladsmith. We discuss the evolution of the music industry, the rise and fall of the rap industry, and the impact of drugs on the culture.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:30.000 Eight miles high
00:00:34.960 And when you touch down
00:00:39.060 You'll find that it's stranger than known
00:00:44.920 Signs in the streets
00:00:50.460 That say where you're going
00:00:53.960 Are somewhere just being their own
00:00:59.400 Nowhere is
00:01:09.080 Their walk to be found
00:01:12.500 My mind goes afraid of losing their ground
00:01:18.680 Way in a town
00:01:23.480 Known for its sound
00:01:27.640 In places, small places of mine
00:01:33.320 That say where you're going
00:01:39.000 That say where you're going
00:01:43.000 That say where you're going
00:01:48.680 That say where you're going
00:01:52.680 That say where you're going
00:01:54.680 That say where you're going
00:02:00.360 That say where you're going
00:02:04.360 That say where you're going
00:02:14.040 That say where you're going
00:02:23.720 Some of the squares
00:02:27.400 But you'll get the storm
00:02:31.400 Some laughing
00:02:33.400 Some just shapeless boy
00:02:36.200 Sidewalk scenes
00:02:41.080 And black man houses
00:02:45.080 Some living
00:02:47.800 Some standing alone
00:02:50.760 Some living
00:03:00.700 And they're going
00:03:01.880 They're going
00:03:02.760 That say where you're going
00:03:03.480 And bad
00:03:07.560 We'll be right back.
00:03:37.560 We'll be right back.
00:04:07.560 We'll be right back.
00:04:37.560 We'll be right back.
00:05:07.560 We'll be right back.
00:05:37.560 We'll be right back.
00:06:07.980 Hey, everybody.
00:06:09.060 Welcome back to the Edge Stream.
00:06:11.340 It's good to be back.
00:06:12.720 Another Tuesday night.
00:06:14.920 I'm here with some special guests tonight.
00:06:17.440 And we are, of course, celebrating Moratorium May.
00:06:21.360 How is it going, guys?
00:06:25.340 Pretty good.
00:06:26.120 I'm kind of zoned out from those two songs.
00:06:32.640 I was in like meditation mode.
00:06:35.040 Meditation mode.
00:06:36.540 Yeah.
00:06:36.800 Well, I think they represented two different sides of some eras, you know, and of personal development, right?
00:06:48.820 We have eight miles high by the birds.
00:06:51.100 Right when the world, a whole generation of people turned to drugs all of a sudden, you know, you think there might be somebody behind it when you think of how crazy it all became all of a sudden.
00:07:02.540 And then, you know, the older rock stars turning a new leaf and, you know, giving it up and maturing.
00:07:12.080 And I feel like a lot of us are going through that in some ways.
00:07:15.360 Right?
00:07:16.260 And that's what we're going to talk about tonight.
00:07:19.780 What?
00:07:20.320 Drugs?
00:07:21.200 Yeah.
00:07:21.580 We're going to talk about drugs.
00:07:23.900 And I feel like I'm probably going to give them like a good rap in many ways, just because I grew up idealizing them.
00:07:31.180 And, yeah, let's talk about our...
00:07:34.060 Pardon?
00:07:35.580 Of course you did.
00:07:37.780 I'm the complete opposite.
00:07:39.280 You're all into that gangster rap, man.
00:07:43.300 It wasn't even that, actually, to be honest.
00:07:46.540 Like, that came a bit later.
00:07:48.380 And I don't idealize that shit.
00:07:52.800 I really like the 808 bass.
00:07:55.240 I feel like there's something primal about it that really, like, hits your core.
00:07:59.100 It's something within music that they really tapped into something.
00:08:02.700 But, you know, I don't idealize these fucking retarded rappers, obviously.
00:08:07.300 And we could get into that, too.
00:08:09.100 Like, the new generation of rappers is mind-numbingly destroyed on drugs.
00:08:15.820 Like, it's to a new level where they're not even selling the drugs anymore and rapping about it.
00:08:22.180 They're just rapping about dying on them.
00:08:24.740 Like, literally.
00:08:26.240 Here, I'm going to write a hit rap song right now.
00:08:29.880 A brand new hit rap song.
00:08:32.300 There.
00:08:32.540 I'm going to suck my dick.
00:08:36.940 I'm going to suck my dick.
00:08:38.800 Sucking my cock.
00:08:40.660 There.
00:08:41.420 That's it.
00:08:42.800 Hit rap song.
00:08:44.100 You can have that one for free, Edgy.
00:08:45.760 Put that on.
00:08:46.440 You repeat.
00:08:47.200 Put that on a loop.
00:08:48.400 It'll be a fucking hit.
00:08:49.540 Guarantee.
00:08:50.380 A little bit of autotune and a touch of reverb and delay.
00:08:54.180 There you go.
00:08:54.680 You know, I think we got a banger.
00:08:55.880 But, yeah.
00:08:59.320 I think it's going to be a fun stream.
00:09:01.040 Like, I have tons of shit prepared.
00:09:03.920 I over-autistically prepared once again.
00:09:06.700 But I feel like the conversation is just going to flow.
00:09:09.300 So, I'll probably get to ditch half of it.
00:09:11.420 It's good to see everybody in the chat.
00:09:12.840 We got YouTube up.
00:09:14.220 We got Rumble and Entropy.
00:09:16.100 If anybody wants to donate and steer the conversation at all in any way with something relevant or just contribute to the show, feel free to do that on Entropy.
00:09:26.640 Rumble, too, you could do that.
00:09:28.680 And, yeah.
00:09:29.160 Good to see everybody there.
00:09:30.120 I see Harry Balzac in the chat.
00:09:32.000 Everybody calling me late and gay once again.
00:09:35.020 We got John Pladsmith in the chat who actually joined me for a good stream last week.
00:09:40.500 If you were wondering where it went, it got taken down for, like, almost a week.
00:09:44.620 But it's back up now.
00:09:45.780 I beat the YouTube censors.
00:09:47.820 They gave me a strike for 2020 election misinformation.
00:09:52.480 And then I wrote them a long appeal.
00:09:54.700 And then they got back to me saying, after reviewing your video, we realized that it did not have any nudity.
00:10:02.300 I was like, okay.
00:10:04.780 Seems like the bots are working good over there.
00:10:09.760 Super.
00:10:10.940 Yeah.
00:10:11.460 So, yeah.
00:10:13.060 If this video gets taken down, you know where you can find it on Rumble or on Odyssey, which is where we are live, too.
00:10:19.100 And, yeah.
00:10:22.720 I think that's about it for our housekeeping.
00:10:26.260 Read Colbert's mom's comment in the chat.
00:10:29.620 It's funny.
00:10:30.360 It's true.
00:10:30.900 I just looked at your shirt, too, and realized.
00:10:34.040 It's giving you vertigo?
00:10:37.180 Yeah.
00:10:37.360 Oh, yeah.
00:10:38.000 It's doing some trippy shit.
00:10:39.400 I think my shirt is on acid.
00:10:42.480 I don't know what the fuck that is.
00:10:45.460 That is trippy.
00:10:46.440 What in the fuck?
00:10:49.600 It must be something to do with the green screen.
00:10:52.640 Well, anyways.
00:10:54.980 I like it.
00:10:56.860 Leave it.
00:10:58.160 Make her sick.
00:10:59.260 It'll make her puke.
00:11:01.300 Okay.
00:11:01.780 I'll full screen myself.
00:11:04.800 Oh, it doesn't do it over here.
00:11:07.080 Okay.
00:11:07.240 Oh, not as much.
00:11:08.300 Yeah.
00:11:08.500 Well, anyways, I feel like we should get into just some community news first before we get into Moratorium May.
00:11:17.720 Of course, our good friend Shane, a.k.a. Pebbles Marshall, was in court this Monday, and I went to go watch his court case.
00:11:27.960 And he was supposed to have a sentencing, and they read their statements, including the victim impact statement,
00:11:35.540 in which there was none because Trudeau didn't have to answer for anything or show up in court because, of course, he has parliamentary privilege.
00:11:44.260 But Shane actually put together just a little clip on his Instagram to kind of recap from the news what happened.
00:11:54.760 ...promise men who pled guilty to throwing gravel at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during an election campaign stop here in London.
00:12:02.540 Of course, he put rap over it way too loud.
00:12:08.720 26-year-old Shane Marshall yelled, Canada first.
00:12:12.920 Moments earlier, inside, the court heard how the former People's Party of Canada official acted on the day Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a 2021 election campaign stop in East London,
00:12:25.020 which turned into a protest. At one point, gravel was thrown at the PM.
00:12:30.900 Marshall's lawyer, Luke Reedy, said, the act of throwing stones was impulsive.
00:12:35.980 He continued, Shane Marshall understands what he did was wrong.
00:12:40.580 Originally charged with assault with a weapon, in March, Marshall pled guilty to the lesser charge of assault.
00:12:47.540 Reedy asked that he receive a suspended sentence.
00:12:50.060 There's no premeditation. He didn't plan to go out there and assault anybody.
00:12:55.140 He's remorseful. He's accepting responsibilities for his actions.
00:12:59.180 He's not going to do this anymore.
00:13:00.420 When Crown Attorney Jeremy Carnegie addressed the sentencing hearing,
00:13:04.120 he asked that Marshall served 30 days in jail,
00:13:07.380 saying this type of violence must be deterred and denounced.
00:13:10.940 This is an assault on our democracy.
00:13:14.120 An assault on our democracy, folks.
00:13:16.320 Oh my god.
00:13:17.400 That's the part that I wanted to get into.
00:13:19.600 Oh my god.
00:13:21.120 I almost burst out laughing in the courtroom,
00:13:23.700 but I was able to contain myself because, you know,
00:13:26.280 I realized how bad that would look.
00:13:28.520 When me and Lee went, and a bunch of other people,
00:13:32.300 including Colbert's mom and Greg and a bunch of other people
00:13:37.660 who showed up in support of Shane,
00:13:39.980 last time we went, some lady kept spurging out in the courtroom,
00:13:43.120 and then she got kicked out.
00:13:45.380 I think people thought she got, like, arrested for that,
00:13:48.320 but I don't believe so.
00:13:50.240 I think she just got removed.
00:13:51.920 But yeah, we wanted to put on our best behavior for Shane in the courtroom.
00:13:55.920 But I nearly died when he said that.
00:13:58.520 And then after he said,
00:14:01.000 okay, so the prosecutor starts off by saying,
00:14:04.140 this is not about politics or Shane Marshall's politics,
00:14:08.000 followed by, this is an assault on our democracy.
00:14:11.120 And then he starts hardcore democracy posting,
00:14:14.920 says the word democracy about 20 times in a row.
00:14:19.700 You know, I thought maybe he was, like,
00:14:21.220 the white, trying to be the white Martin Luther King at this point.
00:14:25.220 But, uh, no, this is serious, serious stuff.
00:14:28.780 Pebbles being thrown at the prime minister.
00:14:30.820 They have to set a precedent.
00:14:33.420 Uh, I mean, I'll play the rest of this,
00:14:34.940 and then we can talk about it.
00:14:35.820 He continued, the right to protest should stop before we get to violence.
00:14:41.120 He got so caught up in the event,
00:14:43.160 his decision was to arm himself.
00:14:45.420 Sentencing.
00:14:48.000 What?
00:14:50.080 And he cuts it off at the funniest point.
00:14:53.440 That was the main thing that I wanted to show.
00:14:55.820 The ending.
00:14:56.920 All right.
00:14:57.540 Now, I told him not to shitpost until after he gets his sentence,
00:15:04.260 but, uh, the man has a sense of humor.
00:15:06.700 He couldn't help himself, eh?
00:15:08.600 Yeah.
00:15:10.880 Well.
00:15:11.680 Arm himself.
00:15:13.100 Arm himself with high, you know,
00:15:16.060 armor-piercing, you know,
00:15:18.280 ultra-supersonic fucking assault pebbles.
00:15:22.740 Well, so he's facing a weapons ban, too, right?
00:15:25.380 Like a 10-year weapons ban?
00:15:27.740 Yeah.
00:15:28.220 Yep.
00:15:28.760 Yep.
00:15:29.040 He's trying to get it put down to five,
00:15:31.160 but, uh,
00:15:32.300 they're going for everything.
00:15:34.040 Like,
00:15:35.300 I don't know,
00:15:36.240 I could talk shit about the prosecutor.
00:15:38.240 I'm not Shane, so, like,
00:15:39.800 are all prosecutors this much of dicks?
00:15:42.740 Yes.
00:15:43.820 Like, does it matter who the defendant is,
00:15:46.540 or is this because it's a politically charged case?
00:15:49.620 Like, this guy's just so indignant.
00:15:51.600 Now, I guess because, you know,
00:15:53.100 the victim who wasn't there,
00:15:54.760 or ever gave a statement or anything,
00:15:57.280 Trudeau, he has parliamentary privilege,
00:15:59.100 and, you know,
00:16:00.600 it's a special case in that regard,
00:16:03.020 that they're gonna go hard on him, right?
00:16:06.260 Well, and I think, too,
00:16:07.380 if this prosecutor wins this case,
00:16:09.240 it's good on his resume, right?
00:16:10.860 Oh, yeah.
00:16:11.100 Like, yeah.
00:16:12.240 And he wants a promotion, obviously,
00:16:14.040 so he's gonna get as much as he can take.
00:16:16.880 Right, because people's lives are,
00:16:19.200 people's lives are in the hands of people
00:16:21.820 who are trying to further their career, right?
00:16:24.460 That's how it should work.
00:16:26.580 To an extent, too,
00:16:28.000 they want to send some kind of message.
00:16:30.900 They want jail time.
00:16:32.720 Yeah.
00:16:33.720 And I think they're,
00:16:34.900 I think it's obvious why.
00:16:36.140 They want jail time because,
00:16:37.940 like, if,
00:16:41.600 like, let's be honest,
00:16:42.820 a lot of people love this, right?
00:16:44.640 As much as, you know,
00:16:45.960 it was stupid of Shane to do,
00:16:47.940 people love it.
00:16:50.300 Like, look at, like, you know,
00:16:51.520 do you have the Rachel Gilmore?
00:16:54.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:55.280 Okay, okay, good, good, good.
00:16:56.860 Should we pull that up right now, or?
00:16:58.920 Oh, I just wanted to know if you had it or not.
00:17:01.200 Oh, yeah, I have it loaded up, of course.
00:17:03.300 It's like, yeah, of course people love this.
00:17:05.220 Of course they affectionately call him Pebbles.
00:17:07.560 Of course they think that this is ridiculous,
00:17:09.700 but they don't want that to be set as the precedent,
00:17:12.680 that if you throw something at the prime minister,
00:17:14.780 you're just going to walk away with community service,
00:17:17.460 right?
00:17:18.640 Or something like that.
00:17:18.920 To be honest, I could understand that.
00:17:21.280 But however,
00:17:22.020 Yeah, of course, like, don't get me wrong.
00:17:23.800 I understand why they're doing what they're doing.
00:17:25.460 And I don't even necessarily,
00:17:27.220 you know, like, from their perspective,
00:17:28.940 it's like, yeah,
00:17:29.420 you would want to go for the jugular here
00:17:31.500 as much as possible.
00:17:32.880 Because,
00:17:34.240 like, look at what happened to Trudeau Sr.
00:17:36.420 whenever he would go out to Alberta
00:17:38.240 and Saskatchewan in the 70s.
00:17:41.120 Like, his train would get egged.
00:17:43.080 Yeah, he'd just get, you know,
00:17:44.000 he'd have rocks thrown at his train and his cars.
00:17:47.100 Like, they don't want people,
00:17:49.160 like, it's very much about, you know,
00:17:52.040 creating this barrier
00:17:53.960 between the plebs and the fucking Caesar here.
00:17:58.020 You can't have them thinking
00:18:00.220 that they can get away with this kind of thing.
00:18:02.060 Otherwise, they'll do it more.
00:18:03.500 And if they start doing it more,
00:18:05.480 what if it turns into more than Pebbles?
00:18:07.100 What if it starts turning into,
00:18:08.580 you know, bricks?
00:18:10.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:10.720 Like, they're concerned that,
00:18:13.380 especially with the political climate,
00:18:15.860 that this could escalate quickly.
00:18:17.520 And it is.
00:18:18.100 Like, look, Trudeau can't go anywhere
00:18:19.460 without getting, you know,
00:18:21.480 mobbed, you know, not violently mobbed,
00:18:23.660 but, like, surrounded and shouted down
00:18:25.700 and harassed and he's hated.
00:18:29.040 So they want to send a message with this for sure.
00:18:33.580 I'm interested into seeing
00:18:34.640 what's going to happen after,
00:18:36.040 like, whatever his sentencing is,
00:18:38.200 no matter what it is,
00:18:39.120 there's going to be some sort of,
00:18:40.720 like, laws can literally be passed after this.
00:18:42.900 They can cite a court case now.
00:18:45.620 You can only come in so many yards
00:18:47.720 of the prime minister or whatever.
00:18:49.720 The Pebbles precedent?
00:18:53.080 I mean, is that too far off?
00:18:56.580 Like, no, I don't think so.
00:18:56.840 No, that's the thing.
00:18:57.720 It's not.
00:18:58.200 They used, like, four or five precedents
00:19:00.580 in the courtroom,
00:19:01.920 and they specifically referred to the pie throwing.
00:19:05.760 And they said that the intent was to humiliate,
00:19:08.660 but a pie generally doesn't hurt somebody.
00:19:10.660 And the prosecutor was saying that the rocks are,
00:19:13.820 you know, they always call them stones.
00:19:16.000 Oh, so.
00:19:17.020 That they are meant to hurt and humiliate.
00:19:20.880 So pies are fair game?
00:19:23.660 Um, I'm thinking that he was comparing that.
00:19:27.280 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:19:29.020 Pies are fair game, everyone.
00:19:30.660 If you're going to throw shit at the prime minister,
00:19:32.300 make sure it's a pie.
00:19:33.300 They draw the line at pies.
00:19:34.880 Okay.
00:19:35.860 Oh, I'm pretty sure that guy got, like,
00:19:37.940 30 days or something.
00:19:39.000 So they were trying to.
00:19:40.320 Never mind.
00:19:40.700 They were trying to compare.
00:19:41.260 Don't throw pies.
00:19:42.080 Yeah.
00:19:43.000 And what about the egg incident with Maxime Bernier?
00:19:46.580 Like, nothing ever came out of that.
00:19:48.200 Yeah, well, that was because Max is a fucking Chad
00:19:50.700 and was like, no, I don't want to press charges.
00:19:52.880 Let him go.
00:19:53.500 It's fine.
00:19:54.220 Like, it's not that big of a deal
00:19:55.460 because Max isn't a gigantic pussy.
00:19:58.260 Right.
00:19:58.720 And so has Prime Minister Macron ever filed charges
00:20:03.320 against how many times he's been egged
00:20:04.940 or pied in the face?
00:20:06.840 Or is it just our prime minister?
00:20:09.200 That is a good question.
00:20:11.400 And it's so ridiculous, too,
00:20:12.800 because at first he never even felt the pebbles hit him.
00:20:16.560 That's how injured he was.
00:20:18.680 And then it wasn't until he got off his campaign bus
00:20:21.400 later on where he changed his story.
00:20:23.740 So whoever was in the campaign bus
00:20:25.600 whispered in his ear and was like,
00:20:27.400 hey, we can set a precedent with this case.
00:20:29.460 Yeah.
00:20:29.700 Let's take it as far as we can go.
00:20:31.500 Yeah.
00:20:31.640 JL Plattsmith there in these comments is a great one.
00:20:35.580 Do they have the pebbles in evidence?
00:20:37.320 Did they have like a bag of the pebbles that were thrown?
00:20:40.460 I don't think so.
00:20:41.540 No.
00:20:42.400 Exhibit B or whatever.
00:20:44.200 They did have evidence of like his hockey stick
00:20:46.580 with the ensign attached to it.
00:20:49.520 They did have evidence.
00:20:50.800 Yeah.
00:20:51.140 That we saw them bringing into court at the one time.
00:20:53.800 Whether there was pebbles in there, I don't know.
00:20:56.880 Interesting.
00:20:58.340 The other thing, too.
00:20:59.060 Sorry, but if you have that video loaded up,
00:21:01.580 but yeah, that's hilarious.
00:21:03.100 That video is so.
00:21:05.340 So this is a new banger.
00:21:06.860 It just dropped an hour and a half ago.
00:21:09.440 Yeah.
00:21:09.920 And I think.
00:21:13.320 Anyways, here it is.
00:21:14.540 Now, this is from TikTok.
00:21:15.740 Talk because I'm blocked on Twitter.
00:21:18.740 Hang on.
00:21:19.400 However, I have seen on Twitter that she's getting absolutely lit up.
00:21:23.560 So.
00:21:23.780 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:21:24.500 The comments are hilarious.
00:21:26.460 I use my sock account to go look.
00:21:28.740 It's hilarious.
00:21:29.800 She's just getting.
00:21:30.340 She's become the biggest lull cow in the country.
00:21:34.100 Like, it's just every day.
00:21:35.320 Rachel's just getting, you know, mine for lulls.
00:21:37.800 It's awesome.
00:21:39.080 But I just wanted.
00:21:40.120 Before we go to this one.
00:21:42.160 Did Shane.
00:21:43.040 Is he going to get any kind of like community service?
00:21:45.340 Regardless of whether he.
00:21:47.900 I don't.
00:21:48.540 I would think that they would add community service on top of a jail sentence.
00:21:54.600 And that's something that Shane wanted to do anyways.
00:21:57.640 Like, I know that.
00:21:58.400 That was where I was going with this.
00:22:00.680 You know, it would be like the biggest Chad move that Shane could pull is when the judge
00:22:04.860 is like, we sentence you to 150 community service hours.
00:22:07.620 And he's just like, not good enough.
00:22:09.520 Not enough.
00:22:10.460 I want 450.
00:22:12.320 Give me 450.
00:22:13.800 I want to better my community.
00:22:15.660 And the judge is like, be quiet.
00:22:16.780 He's like, no, no.
00:22:17.660 I want, give me more.
00:22:18.840 Give me more time.
00:22:19.860 He just like starts arguing with the judge about not getting enough.
00:22:23.640 The judge just.
00:22:24.720 Okay.
00:22:25.020 That's it.
00:22:25.520 A hundred days.
00:22:27.420 No, no.
00:22:28.700 A hundred.
00:22:29.140 A hundred hours of community service.
00:22:31.040 More.
00:22:31.900 50 hours of community service.
00:22:34.280 Yeah.
00:22:35.340 I just, I think that's hilarious.
00:22:38.620 I think right now he's fighting for, to get the ankle monitor and do like the supervised
00:22:44.720 release.
00:22:45.460 So, uh, right now it's kind of a mix between other 30 days in jail, which I think Shane
00:22:51.720 would do pretty well in jail.
00:22:53.060 Just before we start this.
00:22:54.520 I think he'd have a fun time.
00:22:56.580 Yeah.
00:22:57.800 I think so.
00:22:58.460 The guy falls asleep on my floor like this, just within like two minutes.
00:23:03.060 So.
00:23:04.960 He makes friends wherever he goes to.
00:23:06.880 So I think he'd have a good time.
00:23:08.380 He'd be fine.
00:23:10.760 Do you guys remember the dude who threw gravel at the prime minister?
00:23:13.920 Well, he pled guilty to an assault charge and is going to be sentenced next week.
00:23:17.120 But did you know who he's been hanging out with?
00:23:19.420 Trust me.
00:23:20.000 I'm going to get to that.
00:23:20.960 But first.
00:23:21.900 A man spoke in court on Monday where he apologized and said.
00:23:24.280 It wasn't his intention to hurt anybody.
00:23:25.280 Still, the crown is looking to sentence him to 30 days in custody and they're seeking a 10-year weapons prohibition, but the defense wants a one-year suspended sentence.
00:23:40.540 During which time he can attend counseling for impulse control and anger management.
00:23:47.060 Now, lots of people know about this incident.
00:23:49.620 But far fewer people know who the gravel thrower has been hanging out with.
00:23:52.780 He's appeared on live streams affiliated with the far-right extremist group.
00:23:57.800 So amazing picture of the high IQ Shane playing chess.
00:24:03.460 Nice.
00:24:04.920 The obvious game of extremists, right?
00:24:08.420 Blacks vs. Whites.
00:24:12.460 Agamon.
00:24:13.280 Who affectionately refer to him as Pebbles.
00:24:16.660 Here he is with the leader of that group.
00:24:18.640 And the leader of Canada First.
00:24:19.860 Pebbles.
00:24:20.580 Pebbles.
00:24:20.740 Here's an article about those guys.
00:24:22.640 And here's Pebbles in one of their hats.
00:24:24.860 Extremism researchers have raised the alarm about these groups.
00:24:28.060 Mostly because of what their rants and live streams could inspire their followers to do.
00:24:32.040 What do you think of all this?
00:24:34.580 What do you think of all this?
00:24:36.180 He's wearing a hat.
00:24:38.420 He's wearing a hat.
00:24:40.160 He has friends.
00:24:41.680 My initial takeaway, and I even left a comment on her TikTok about this, is she can't string a sentence together that's more than five words before cutting it.
00:24:52.400 She can't handle it.
00:24:53.400 She doesn't have the brain power.
00:24:54.740 She's a moron.
00:24:58.000 She's an absolute fucking dunce.
00:25:02.580 And cited an anti-hate article, too.
00:25:05.620 That's her proof.
00:25:06.740 It's a blog.
00:25:07.620 Okay.
00:25:07.760 She thinks she's one of these weird, I mean, there's more and more of them all the time now.
00:25:13.140 She thinks that because she has a university education and she did lots of book learning, that makes her smart.
00:25:18.700 When in reality, she's a complete asshat.
00:25:20.900 Makes an absolute lull cow of herself constantly.
00:25:24.380 And honestly, she couldn't stand up to anybody in, like, reasoned debate.
00:25:29.120 Could you imagine her up against Jeremy or me?
00:25:32.880 Like, what that would look like in, like, a long-form debate where you don't get to, like, hide in your Twitter comments, where you actually have to engage the person?
00:25:41.440 Like you said, she can't string together a sentence that's more than five words without needing to edit on TikTok.
00:25:46.800 Like, she couldn't do this type of, this kind of format, let alone, like, a direct confrontation.
00:25:53.540 She'd be crying.
00:25:56.420 She can't even say a whole sentence without a cut.
00:26:00.200 Like, it's not hard to memorize a whole thought without having to crop yourself onto the other side of the screen between, like, three words.
00:26:09.620 And I think that's why they put her on TikTok, because on TikTok, you can get away with that, right?
00:26:14.080 Like, I think they purposefully put her there for that reason.
00:26:17.700 Regardless, though, it's just hilarious that, like, she's not even getting paid to do this anymore.
00:26:23.780 Yeah, I feel like she's really trying to grab her attention, so she's diving into the, oh, I'm a journalist covering extremism.
00:26:32.260 But she's also trying to bait the horror comments so she could ramp up her narrative of being, like, the female journalists are being attacked by extremists.
00:26:41.160 And then hopefully some mainstream media outlet will simp for her and give her a job as some sort of feminist hero.
00:26:48.580 I feel like that's what she's doing.
00:26:49.920 She's trying to bait it with these fucking lingerie photos, and she's trying to bait you.
00:26:56.240 But it's, I don't think you're going to get a job by getting made fun of and becoming a laughingstock.
00:27:01.880 I couldn't believe whenever I saw that photo, I was like, really?
00:27:05.280 You just put this...
00:27:06.160 You dress the part for the position that you want.
00:27:08.340 I'm just going to say that.
00:27:09.320 You just put this out on the internet knowing exactly how people are going to, you just, like, zero foresight at all, right?
00:27:19.880 I think she might be spiraling, to be honest.
00:27:22.300 After that lingerie photo, I think she might be on a downward spiral.
00:27:26.360 I don't know.
00:27:27.760 Oh, it was, that whole sequence was hilarious with her, Jordan Peterson.
00:27:31.280 Just, she also, she also had a violent post earlier, either it was yesterday or today, that she deleted because she realized that it could be perceived as a death threat, which is hilarious.
00:27:43.960 Hmm, who was that?
00:27:46.940 She posted a thing, I forget how, what it was worded or what it was even about.
00:27:50.840 I think it was something to do with transphobes.
00:27:52.920 It was, like, me taking on all the blue checkmark transphobes.
00:27:56.460 And it was, like, some, like, I think it was a photo from Zombieland, like, the first one, where he's in the game booth with the gates down and pointing, like, pistols out of the gates at the zombies coming.
00:28:11.920 Hmm.
00:28:12.820 So she deleted that one pretty quick.
00:28:14.520 I think she realized what it could be.
00:28:15.900 I mean, I don't care.
00:28:17.140 It was, I know what it was intended to be.
00:28:19.300 But it was, it's just funny watching them, you know, self-police.
00:28:22.480 Like, oh my god, this could be perceived as a, they're saying this is a death threat?
00:28:25.560 I have to delete this.
00:28:27.020 Like, it's just like, yeah, you've.
00:28:28.740 After the Nashville shooter?
00:28:32.260 Shameful.
00:28:32.840 Absolutely shameful.
00:28:34.280 Fair enough.
00:28:35.240 But yeah, I mean.
00:28:37.860 Yeah, this is Zarpachi in the chat here.
00:28:40.920 Rachel Gilmar is a lull cow.
00:28:42.580 Yes, absolutely.
00:28:44.140 She's, like, you could just go there day after day and mine for lulls.
00:28:48.460 And you'll, you'll be rich with lulls.
00:28:53.400 But I think it's hilarious though too, because it's just like, you know, you, you make fun of her for a little bit.
00:28:58.940 And I, like, you know, I go to the comments and on that Shane Marshall video, she posted on Twitter.
00:29:03.840 And it's all like, I heard you, it's, it's, she's just getting roasted.
00:29:07.440 And like, I just see a bunch that are like, I hear you give $10 blowjobs now.
00:29:11.700 And I'm like, okay, my business is done.
00:29:13.720 I'm out.
00:29:14.160 I'll just go back to doing, you know, important things now or things that, you know, I actually care about.
00:29:20.180 And yeah, she's just getting mined for lulls.
00:29:23.040 So, yeah.
00:29:25.760 Oh, wow.
00:29:26.500 Yeah, this is worse than usual.
00:29:29.760 Oh, it was like 95% negative, you know, feedback.
00:29:35.640 Like, she's going to eventually block everybody who makes a rude comment about her and then she'll have no followers left.
00:29:44.200 Except for maybe some orbiters or white knights or something.
00:29:48.260 There were some good, there were some good zingers in those comments too.
00:29:53.000 Well, I'm excited to see where that ends up.
00:29:55.460 Yeah.
00:29:55.720 Like you said, it's just like every once in a while, she's just something extremely cringe.
00:29:59.580 It catches our attention again, you know, make fun of her.
00:30:02.420 And then, you know, every few months, the cycle repeats.
00:30:07.100 Yeah, I mean, like, look, she's absolutely hated.
00:30:11.440 She's basically like Dylan Mulvaney, but uglier at this point.
00:30:16.220 But I didn't even know who she was until, like, she went after Jeremy or whatever and everyone started roasting her.
00:30:23.260 I had no clue who she was.
00:30:24.600 So it's kind of like, you know, Diagalon made her popular.
00:30:28.100 I think she's, like, doubled her followers probably based off of just, you know, writing articles about Diagalon and everyone just roasting her.
00:30:37.580 I had no idea who she was.
00:30:39.760 No clue.
00:30:41.900 Well, I guess she's found her niche and she's going to keep on milking it.
00:30:45.980 But, uh, I think that's enough attention for Rachel for now.
00:30:51.500 Yeah, I just, I got one more for Rachel.
00:30:54.000 Okay, okay.
00:30:54.840 Let's edit that.
00:30:56.120 I think we should try to get Rachel involved with Moratorium May and see if we can get her to quit Zoloft.
00:31:04.140 You're going to have to wean yourself off of that.
00:31:06.620 If you get yourself off of that stuff too quickly, you'll get fucking weird withdrawals and brain zaps.
00:31:12.220 It goes to show how good that stuff is for you, you know?
00:31:16.340 Yeah.
00:31:17.500 All right.
00:31:18.220 That's enough of the lolcow.
00:31:19.620 We had our fun.
00:31:21.280 But, yeah, Moratorium May.
00:31:23.400 Now, I believe you coined the term, Lee, and it was maybe a stream two weeks ago where you were railing, you, Ferryman, were railing against dope culture and drinking culture in Canada and how it's become, like, a staple, part of our identity, basically.
00:31:42.240 Like, Trailer Park Boys, when I was growing up in high school, like, it was cool to get blackout drunk because you were like Ricky, right?
00:31:50.760 Oh, fuck, I ate eight cans of ravioli, guys.
00:31:54.000 Well, I was fucking blackout last night, you know?
00:31:56.540 Like, doing something stupid like that, you could chalk it up to, like, our cultural icons like Trailer Park Boys at the time.
00:32:06.140 And it's kind of just escalated, right?
00:32:10.640 Yeah, it's a massive psyop.
00:32:14.420 It's not just Trailer Park Boys.
00:32:16.160 Think about all Hollywood movies that, you know, or just, you know, I mean, Hollywood, I guess, is fine.
00:32:22.500 But all Hollywood movies that are directed at, you know, teenagers and people in their young 20s, just think about what they all revolve around.
00:32:31.640 All of them revolve around it.
00:32:35.340 Whether it's things like, you know, when I was growing up, Superbad, right?
00:32:41.040 Is them getting, you know, the whole movie is about them trying to get liquor illegally so they can get girls drunk and fuck them.
00:32:48.060 Yep.
00:32:48.660 Like, that was a hilarious movie, but it's also kind of like, when you look into the subtext, Devin Stack is very good at this.
00:32:54.680 He's done this kind of breakdown for a ton of movies about how subversive Hollywood is.
00:32:59.440 And, like, while it may be funny on the surface, the messages that it's pushing.
00:33:03.280 Yeah, Ramsey's the third there in the chat.
00:33:06.560 Or Pineapple Express, that's another good one.
00:33:08.760 Harold and Kumar, like, you guys are going to be doing this all night, guys.
00:33:12.260 They're all like this.
00:33:14.060 American Pie.
00:33:16.140 Right?
00:33:16.500 That was one I grew up on, too, right?
00:33:18.240 Came of age on.
00:33:21.180 When you said Superbad, yeah, Superbad, that was right before I got into grade 9.
00:33:27.420 And, you know, you'd hear about people going to parties.
00:33:29.940 And I'd never been to a party where people were freely drinking alcohol, like, out in the open at that point.
00:33:36.040 So, seeing something like Superbad, it was like, wow, this is what I have to look forward to.
00:33:41.460 This is awesome.
00:33:42.280 This is going to be great.
00:33:43.680 Right?
00:33:43.860 Beer Fest.
00:33:46.960 Like, it goes on.
00:33:48.080 Like, you can list, like, all those teen movies, you know, they focus on, like, you know, drinking and drug culture and they glorify it.
00:33:54.720 So, yeah, I would say it's a psyop, this glorification of drinking and dope culture.
00:34:02.600 And, honestly, I think Trailer Park Boys is a bad example of that because I don't think Trailer Park Boys does glorify it.
00:34:10.540 Maybe incidentally, but Trailer Park Boys is actually a black comedy.
00:34:13.700 I mean, the whole point of it is, like, yeah, it's funny, but it's, like, dude, their lives are miserable.
00:34:20.340 Like, everything, it's a very black comedy when you think about it.
00:34:25.560 That is true.
00:34:26.560 But I think a kid, like, my generation watching it, I don't think we really saw it that way.
00:34:31.560 Yeah.
00:34:32.280 Right?
00:34:33.020 But, yeah, you are right when you look back at it.
00:34:35.340 It is showing, like, how bleak it can be.
00:34:37.820 Yeah.
00:34:38.880 Their whole lives revolve around getting drunk or high and going to jail and doing crime.
00:34:44.120 Like, it's a black comedy.
00:34:46.240 They're also huge cocks that we've discovered, so fuck them.
00:34:53.940 But, yeah.
00:34:55.660 Yeah.
00:34:57.200 Well, I would say, okay, what is your guys' experience with drugs?
00:35:04.100 Like, how do you kind of grow up with it?
00:35:07.220 I'm sure that we're all coming from maybe slightly different backgrounds.
00:35:11.260 How about you, Ferry?
00:35:12.320 I didn't really drink much in high school, and I definitely didn't do drugs until I got to university.
00:35:20.800 Hmm.
00:35:22.000 And how did it go then?
00:35:25.560 Well, some of you may know that I was on the University of Guelph football team, and then I had too many concussions, and I quit.
00:35:35.800 And I immediately just got into drinking and smoking dope instead of playing football.
00:35:40.000 And then I spent the next four years of my life, five years of my life, just smoking weed and drinking and barely, you know, just getting by in my university education, doing the bare minimum to get my fucking degree.
00:35:52.960 So, yeah, it was a complete waste of my early 20s.
00:35:57.060 And, I mean, I guess some of that education has come in handy recently.
00:36:02.220 But the poli sci in history has a little bit more of, you know, meaning in these days than it did 10 years ago.
00:36:10.980 But, yeah.
00:36:12.300 Do you think you really took in, like, the stuff that you learned from poli sci?
00:36:19.040 Are you using a lot of that now?
00:36:21.640 Yeah, 100%.
00:36:22.700 At least it's very good reference material.
00:36:25.160 And, yeah, I did take a lot of it in because I'm not a moron.
00:36:28.540 So, like, I mean, I wasn't trying very hard to get good grades because I was always drinking and getting high.
00:36:35.280 But I did, like, I actually did the work.
00:36:40.620 I just didn't try hard at it, right?
00:36:42.120 I was interested in what it was.
00:36:44.020 I just wasn't interested in doing seminar, you know, papers and seminar papers, term papers and essays and fucking, you know, seminar assignments and whatnot.
00:36:54.880 So.
00:36:56.140 No, I feel you on that.
00:36:57.700 Like, I was, I was, sorry, I was one of those university students that, like, didn't do, like, half the assignments and only did the, like, the major term papers and the, like, the midterm and the final.
00:37:09.320 Right.
00:37:10.060 I skipped all those, like, 3%, you know, assignments that you'd get.
00:37:14.200 And, like, ah, whatever.
00:37:14.980 They only account for, like, 30% of your grade.
00:37:19.320 Hey, well, to a certain extent, like, unless you're trying to get a job right from university where your grades really do matter that much into getting that job.
00:37:29.980 Like, just passing seems good enough and getting more extracurricular stuff on the side and actually learning things.
00:37:37.100 That seemed like more of the way to go.
00:37:38.940 Like, I know that I was majoring in film studies and philosophy.
00:37:42.600 And if I were to get, like, really good marks in that, unless I was going to law school or something or something where I would need good marks, it didn't really matter that much.
00:37:52.820 It was more so the stuff on the side.
00:37:55.040 But even then, like you said, I spent so much time being obsessed with wanting to go to parties, getting fucked up, and wanting to do different kinds of psychedelic drugs.
00:38:05.400 However, I did retain a lot of the information that I learned from, like, philosophy and film studies.
00:38:14.040 Now, I wouldn't be able to apply it right away to, like, writing some paper, but all those things seeped into me.
00:38:20.580 So, I learned about logical fallacies and how to debate, how to argue, how to think about things clearly, like, to know what makes sense and what doesn't.
00:38:31.160 So, all these things definitely did combine into what I'm doing now.
00:38:35.400 But, yeah, definitely all of the drinking and the drugs, it definitely wasted a lot of time.
00:38:43.520 And I could have been here a lot sooner and been more successful had I not done that.
00:38:47.780 But, however, did I need to go through that and learn that lesson in order for this to all come about?
00:38:56.380 There's a lot of questions in that, right?
00:38:59.260 Well, I think everyone goes through that time period, right?
00:39:03.020 It's, like, university is always known for partying and going through that phase.
00:39:07.480 And then you kind of grow up, right?
00:39:08.900 Time to put on your big boy pants and get a job and, you know, start adulting at some point.
00:39:14.740 But the reality is, is some people don't make it out.
00:39:18.580 It becomes an addiction or, you know, they rely on it.
00:39:24.040 It becomes, like, a daily part of their life.
00:39:27.240 So, I don't know.
00:39:28.500 Somehow I escaped not drinking throughout my entire life, like, through high school, everything.
00:39:34.720 I've never been drunk in my life.
00:39:36.980 I don't know how I did it.
00:39:38.780 I just...
00:39:39.360 That is impressive.
00:39:40.120 It's something that has never really appealed to me.
00:39:44.080 I mean, I've seen other people go through, like, pretty dark paths, down dark paths.
00:39:48.940 And it's not something that I saw myself wanting to do.
00:39:51.980 And so I kind of just...
00:39:53.300 It's the whole abstinence approach to it, right?
00:39:55.740 Like, don't want to bother even trying it because I might like it and then end up down that dark path.
00:39:59.800 So I didn't even risk it.
00:40:00.800 But it was a lot of peer pressure.
00:40:03.520 And, you know, a lot of my friends were like, I want to see you drunk.
00:40:06.020 And, like, you know, everyone wanted to be the first one to get me drunk.
00:40:09.140 And it's kind of a joke and stuff like that.
00:40:12.000 But I missed out on a lot of parties because my friends were like, I don't think you'd be interested in coming.
00:40:16.820 Or, you know, because you don't drink or stuff like that.
00:40:20.600 Which I'm okay with.
00:40:21.940 I turned out okay, I think.
00:40:23.200 For the most part.
00:40:26.100 But, yeah, it's just not something that's really appealed to you.
00:40:29.800 So abstinence does work.
00:40:31.260 And that's not just for drinking.
00:40:32.740 That's for everything.
00:40:36.700 Yeah, well, you're not going to get hooked if you don't try it.
00:40:39.040 That's for damn sure.
00:40:39.800 You don't know what you're missing.
00:40:40.840 That's the whole thing, right?
00:40:44.020 Yeah.
00:40:45.360 Hmm.
00:40:46.120 Well, I know I started out probably around 12 or 13 years old.
00:40:54.020 And it definitely aligned with me looking for something more.
00:41:01.180 Some kind of transcendence.
00:41:03.500 And I think me finding out or starting to realize that everything that you learn about, like, God in the Bible may not exactly be literal.
00:41:15.580 I think that kind of hit me hard.
00:41:17.680 And then I was looking to and idealizing things that could be transcendent.
00:41:25.020 And that definitely made me start to think that weed was really cool.
00:41:28.680 So I found out that, oh, wait, the Earth is actually not 10,000 years old.
00:41:33.560 And, like, you could find a direct lineage back to Adam and Eve.
00:41:38.500 Like, I had taken all these things for granted before that.
00:41:41.360 And then, like, from going on the Internet and just learning things, I realized, like, oh, wait.
00:41:46.920 So the Earth is actually billions of years old.
00:41:50.240 And that really doesn't align with the Bible.
00:41:53.440 So how do you, like, is there, like, a God?
00:41:56.660 Is there a heaven kind of thing?
00:41:57.980 And all these things kind of freaked me out.
00:42:00.560 And I wanted to have some sort of transcendence, some kind of otherworldliness.
00:42:07.420 And then at the same time, I found out that, oh, you're not just going to automatically die if you smoke weed.
00:42:13.040 Because I thought you would die off weed when I was, like, maybe 10 or 11.
00:42:17.740 And then when I was 12, I found out no one's ever died from weed before, like, from an overdose.
00:42:24.720 And that really blew my mind.
00:42:27.500 And hello, Greg.
00:42:29.960 Hello, Greg.
00:42:31.320 I'm an addict, and my name is Greg.
00:42:34.780 Hey, everybody.
00:42:36.200 My eyes, like, all fucked up too right now.
00:42:38.960 Look at this red ensign crew we got going on here.
00:42:41.780 Edgy, you're gay.
00:42:43.380 I had to.
00:42:44.100 I'll get right on it.
00:42:45.320 What is that gay black and white flag?
00:42:47.740 No, I was listening to some of the conversation.
00:42:52.520 Really good stuff.
00:42:53.660 What, Ferry, what you described is exactly, you're explaining it.
00:42:58.000 I'm like, that sounds like me.
00:42:59.560 It's like, yeah, I pay attention during class.
00:43:01.860 But really, it was about, you know, when am I going to get high or drunk next and whatever.
00:43:07.340 My super useful university education.
00:43:10.480 Yeah.
00:43:10.960 Okay.
00:43:12.540 Thankfully, I went to college, too, where I got more hands-on experience.
00:43:16.800 Same.
00:43:18.180 Yeah.
00:43:19.420 Crippling debt.
00:43:20.460 Yay.
00:43:21.340 Yeah.
00:43:21.580 Yeah.
00:43:22.100 Yeah.
00:43:22.560 Crippling debt.
00:43:23.860 Yeah.
00:43:24.340 But I think I cut you off.
00:43:25.720 I think you were going on about something.
00:43:27.640 I think you were saying something edgy.
00:43:31.000 Oh, yeah.
00:43:31.640 Well, thanks for coming on.
00:43:33.200 Of course.
00:43:33.580 I'm sure we'll have some great conversations to follow about all of this with you here, too.
00:43:38.460 The guru.
00:43:39.320 The guru.
00:43:42.560 Well, you've been public about your sobriety for the last, like, many years, right?
00:43:48.880 So I think you'd have a lot to contribute to this conversation.
00:43:53.800 Sure.
00:43:54.400 Yeah.
00:43:56.800 Actually, I'll jump off of something you were just talking about.
00:43:59.420 So I remember when I was, like, very young, I was like, I'm never going to do drugs.
00:44:05.840 I remember being in grade seven and eight.
00:44:07.200 I'm like, that's not me.
00:44:08.420 I'm not doing that.
00:44:10.040 And at one point or another, I'm, you know, smoking weed out of an apple in, like, grade 10 or something.
00:44:16.700 And it's similar to what you were saying earlier, where it's like, whoa, mind expansion.
00:44:22.700 Like, oh, my God.
00:44:23.780 Like, you know, smoking weed.
00:44:25.240 This is like a, oh, like, you know, psychedelics, bro.
00:44:29.180 That was certainly a very romantic thing, I would call it, with weed at first, where it was like this form of escapism and, like, kind of rebellion and blah, blah, blah.
00:44:38.440 And, yeah, I think, you know, to connect it with what you were saying, Lee, it's like, you were basically saying, like, abstinence works.
00:44:49.000 And it's like, yeah, you know, we're habitual human beings, you know?
00:44:54.640 Like, if you're hanging around people who smoke weed all the time or drink all the time, you're probably going to start doing that.
00:44:59.600 And the more you do that, the harder it is to stop, not because it's like there's something fucking wrong with you necessarily.
00:45:05.220 That certainly doesn't help, doesn't make it any easier to quit if you do have some fucked up shit because it'll kind of, like, if you guys haven't heard this, essentially, like, if you're mentally ill, you're more likely to do drugs.
00:45:16.620 And if you do drugs, you're more likely to be mentally ill.
00:45:18.680 And if you do, like, it just kind of snowballs.
00:45:21.980 But, yeah, I forget what I was saying there.
00:45:26.860 You bond with the people that you're friends with in that sort of sense, right?
00:45:30.280 And that ends up being the one thing you have in common is if you're, like, using drugs or it's your drinking buddy or whatever it is, that's what you have in common.
00:45:38.500 So if you were to take that away, do you actually have stuff in common or is it just your drinking buddy?
00:45:43.820 Like, I know a lot of people who have quit doing drugs or drinking and their whole friend circle changes because they no longer have anything in common.
00:45:51.200 That was their using buddy.
00:45:53.620 Real.
00:45:54.580 Yeah.
00:45:54.740 Definitely.
00:45:55.260 Very real.
00:45:55.980 Very real.
00:45:56.860 And that's what makes quitting really hard for people in probably most cases because I think you nailed it.
00:46:04.940 Like, when it comes to, you know, drugs, drug use, it certainly most of the time starts in a social setting.
00:46:15.200 Like, when it becomes something that's much more self-destructive and much more, like, kind of, like, objectively not good for you, then it becomes something that's all about isolating and all about fucking just, like, being alone.
00:46:24.420 And doing whatever, whatever you want to do to self-destruct.
00:46:28.680 And, but yeah, I mean, while I'm on the topic, when it comes to, like, recovery or getting sober, there's these things called 12-step programs.
00:46:39.740 Some people poo-poo the 12-step programs and AA, which is Alcoholics Anonymous, and NA, Narcotics Anonymous.
00:46:47.500 I went to Narcotics Anonymous.
00:46:49.140 I liked it for various reasons.
00:46:50.740 But I would kind of defend it by saying, when it comes to the different options of recovery and trying to get help when it comes to substance abuse, the 12-step programs are like tap water.
00:47:05.000 Okay?
00:47:05.700 It's free.
00:47:07.340 They're completely fucking free.
00:47:09.380 Okay?
00:47:10.280 It's tap water.
00:47:11.100 It's not necessarily nutritious, but it'll keep you alive in some capacity.
00:47:14.160 And, yeah, so it's, like, it's, it's there.
00:47:18.880 Take it or leave it.
00:47:21.800 There's a whole other discussion we can go into, but, you know, to kind of tie it up with a nice little bow, essentially.
00:47:27.120 My understanding of these 12-step programs is that it kind of spoon-feeds you, like, raw spirituality of self-improvement, of being honest and open and willing.
00:47:36.700 And the kind of these concepts that can really help you kind of try to get your life on track.
00:47:41.240 But the point I was going to make, actually, is, is unmanageability.
00:47:44.680 Typically, people find themselves going to a 12-step program when their life is becoming unmanageable.
00:47:49.820 When things are getting fucked up and you can't even manage your life, that's typically when people are like, oh, maybe I have a problem.
00:47:54.680 Maybe I should be, you know, getting help for this.
00:47:57.800 But, yeah, and it's, it's kind of interesting because this is kind of a weird other kind of topic.
00:48:05.240 But I don't know if you guys know the YouTuber Moist Critical, I think his name is.
00:48:10.540 But he's, anyway, he's this big YouTuber.
00:48:15.280 And he was doing this thing where he's opening up packs and packs and packs of, like, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
00:48:20.780 And his audience were like, dude, you're addicted to this.
00:48:23.180 This is fucked up.
00:48:24.480 And they were kind of, like, you know, memeing him and making fun of him.
00:48:26.920 And then he made this whole video.
00:48:28.240 Oh, no, I'm not addicted to this.
00:48:30.040 See, look, I make this much money.
00:48:31.640 I only spend $40,000 a month on Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
00:48:36.040 And it was like, dude, what the fuck?
00:48:38.400 Like, that's, that's, that's, like, so much money to most people watching.
00:48:42.300 Like.
00:48:42.540 How is that not playing the lottery?
00:48:44.840 Is it essentially, like, the same thing?
00:48:46.620 Like, you're kind of hoping you win a, you know, a specific card?
00:48:51.940 It's kind of like playing the lottery or gambling or whatever.
00:48:54.160 Yeah.
00:48:54.460 And, like, it's a net negative probably for most people playing.
00:48:57.320 But, but it's interesting because his life wasn't unmanageable.
00:49:02.680 He can manage to spend $40,000 on this.
00:49:05.580 And it's like, so is he addicted?
00:49:06.880 It's like, well, I certainly would say he's addicted.
00:49:08.840 But, like, to him, it's like, no, this is just, this is just an expensive hobby for me.
00:49:12.640 So it's kind of interesting how it's like, you only realize that you're totally fucked on a certain substance or addiction until it's like, holy fuck, I can't even manage things.
00:49:20.740 Like, even if you are super rich, you know what I mean?
00:49:23.760 Like, you could be some, like, successful person who does coke all the time.
00:49:28.180 But because you're kind of keeping it all together, you're like, I'm fine.
00:49:31.880 You know?
00:49:33.640 You could be kicking it down the road if you have the money to be able to uphold that kind of lifestyle, right?
00:49:38.940 Because I could assume that people on the top, they are a lot of drug addicts, except for they have the top drug doctors to give them exactly what they need to wake up in the morning and to go to sleep at night.
00:49:54.360 But, you know, it's a cascade of drugs and eventually it'll come tumbling down.
00:49:58.880 The casual use of basically speed and methamphetamines, I don't know them off the top of my head, but, you know, like Adderall is one.
00:50:07.340 Like, these are basically, like, so similar chemically to meth.
00:50:13.240 Sympathetic meth, yeah.
00:50:14.660 And, like, I have, like, you know, friends of friends and they work on Bay Street and they're like, oh, yeah, we're taking dex now.
00:50:22.020 Which is, like, short for, like, dexetrine or some shit, which is, like, basically super Adderall.
00:50:26.520 And it's like, okay.
00:50:30.040 You know, like, you know, how much do you do?
00:50:32.620 Like, whatever, like, do your thing.
00:50:34.300 But it's crazy to think how many that side of the whole drug use thing, right?
00:50:40.840 Where it's like, hey, I'm being productive.
00:50:42.300 Or, hey, I have ADHD, right?
00:50:44.880 And they give out, like, speed to, like, kids.
00:50:48.080 Well, like, the biggest drug pushers are in lab coats and are doctors that write prescriptions.
00:50:53.660 They're actually the biggest drug dealers to exist.
00:50:57.440 And they're the ones that actually start people on addiction to illegal drugs a lot of the time.
00:51:04.440 You know, people that can no longer get opioids, well, then they're going to heroin or fentanyl.
00:51:10.380 Yeah, I blame them.
00:51:11.660 That's, like, the unspoken.
00:51:13.680 A lot of people don't talk about that aspect is that the big pharma is actually the biggest drug dealers known to exist.
00:51:21.480 But, you know, opiate, yeah, opiates, the Sackler family pushing opioids onto people and getting caught and fined billions of dollars, lying about the effects of stuff like Oxycontin.
00:51:39.640 Yeah, they had the FDA lie and say that it wasn't addictive or habit forming because of its slow release.
00:51:47.920 Right, that was it, yeah.
00:51:50.160 Yeah.
00:51:50.460 Wow.
00:51:51.380 Absolutely ridiculous.
00:51:52.700 And then I believe it was in those lawsuits where they ended up getting, like, fined billions of dollars, which is nothing to them.
00:52:00.740 Like, that's not a punishment to them.
00:52:02.380 They'll just take it like a slap on the wrist.
00:52:04.840 But, like, they were getting doctors to push it on people and laughing about, like, referring to the people they were selling to as pillbillies.
00:52:17.840 So decimating middle America and you see who is dying in droves, who has the highest suicide rates, the highest rate of opioid overdose.
00:52:28.340 It's white people.
00:52:30.380 Yeah.
00:52:31.300 Dave Chappelle did a whole bit on that on one of his, like, recent specials.
00:52:35.260 Not the most recent one, but I think a couple before it where it's like, man, these poor white folk are just on fentanyl everywhere.
00:52:42.660 And it's, like, really sad.
00:52:44.800 Man, I love how we're doing this podcast on drugs and my eyes all fucked up.
00:52:48.900 Yeah, I was doing drugs before.
00:52:51.560 I just beat up my dealer because I owe the money.
00:52:54.220 But, no, it's interesting.
00:52:59.860 You guys were talking about the movies earlier as well.
00:53:02.200 And I was nodding along to that where it's like, yep.
00:53:06.000 Super bad.
00:53:09.180 An American Pie.
00:53:10.600 The American Pie one is more of, like, a sexual psyop where it's like, if you're a virgin, then you're worthless.
00:53:21.600 Like, that's the message, basically, of American Pie.
00:53:24.200 You should be so horny all the time that you will end up fucking a pie.
00:53:30.200 Well, and super bad, too, right?
00:53:32.840 True.
00:53:33.180 They were trying to have sex and they were virgins.
00:53:35.940 They didn't want to be virgins going into college or university or whatever.
00:53:39.880 That was also the undertone of super bad.
00:53:43.560 What about Pineapple Express where Buddy's dating a fucking high schooler?
00:53:48.980 Isn't that one funny?
00:53:50.040 He's, like, 30 years old and he's dating a 17-year-old or something.
00:53:54.760 And that just kind of, like, went under the radar.
00:53:56.780 Like, no.
00:53:57.240 Yeah, Seth Rogen, you're not a creep.
00:53:59.320 I don't remember.
00:54:00.600 Ha ha, it's funny because we're stoned.
00:54:02.140 Ha ha.
00:54:02.940 Yeah.
00:54:03.460 I forget that movie.
00:54:04.920 Probably because I was stoned at the time.
00:54:07.060 Yeah.
00:54:08.280 But, I mean, like, it goes on and on.
00:54:09.800 Like, this is all of this stuff.
00:54:13.200 Yeah, I got to say, Devin Stack, right?
00:54:16.140 Like, Blackbill is so good with these Hollywood takedowns where he'll just take, like, a great one is Pleasantville.
00:54:23.880 He goes into, he does, like, a half-hour breakdown of the movie Pleasantville.
00:54:27.740 And it's so good.
00:54:29.260 He's very familiar with that.
00:54:30.500 The complete inversion of morality and how it's, like, they paint, like, the 1950s, like, ideal, you know, like, nuclear family.
00:54:42.720 Everybody knows each other.
00:54:44.080 Nobody's on drugs.
00:54:45.460 Nobody's cheating on their spouses.
00:54:46.820 Like, you know, it's, like, this idealized world.
00:54:50.020 And then they invert the whole thing.
00:54:52.000 And they make it seem like all of those things are positive whenever they're inverted, right?
00:54:56.980 It's funny you bring this up because I took film studies and I took a class called Family and Melodrama.
00:55:03.520 And we did tons of readings on this film in particular.
00:55:08.400 And Professor, obviously a liberal, seemed to go along with, like, oh, the 1950s.
00:55:14.800 It presented itself as traditionalist and, like, moral outstanding, you know, order.
00:55:20.980 And it was good.
00:55:21.700 But deep down underneath, every dad was beating his wife and the moms.
00:55:27.940 As you can see here, the wife is in the kitchen, a.k.a. this is violence and evil that she's here in the kitchen.
00:55:34.520 It's the worst thing that's going to ever happen.
00:55:37.120 More like fascist film.
00:55:38.880 That Blackpill, you know, analysis of this movie, it's great.
00:55:44.320 Like, look, like, you know, the whole thing, like, yeah, this is it, right?
00:55:49.720 And as soon as they all start having sex with each other and, like, touching each other, then everything sprouts into color all of a sudden.
00:55:58.360 And that's good.
00:55:59.340 It's liberation, right?
00:56:01.100 This is, like, basically, like, the bloody neo-Marxist ideology in a movie here.
00:56:08.020 Now, obviously, there is something, too, if, like, somebody is being way too stuffy and repressed.
00:56:16.000 But then they just take it to the next logical extreme.
00:56:19.240 And, you know, giving into your passions all the time and doing what thou wilt all the time will leave you way more enslaved than you ever were when you were putting restraints on yourself.
00:56:29.780 Yeah.
00:56:31.660 Yeah, I'm going to go watch that.
00:56:33.760 That sounds interesting.
00:56:35.100 It is.
00:56:35.540 Like, some of Devin Stack's stuff, like, blows me away.
00:56:38.980 Like, that guy's so big brain.
00:56:42.040 Another great one, just to throw this out there, is Defiant.
00:56:46.040 It's not, like, a documentary or, like, an analysis or anything.
00:56:50.020 It's literally just, just go watch it.
00:56:52.160 It's, like, half an hour of just news clips about things.
00:56:56.920 And it's one of those ones that, like, will really make you angry.
00:57:00.780 Because it's just really well done, all the edits.
00:57:04.160 Defiant by Blackfield.
00:57:06.340 Okay.
00:57:06.900 You can probably find it on Bitchute or Rumble or, yeah.
00:57:16.440 Nice.
00:57:16.920 But, yeah.
00:57:20.420 I think there's definitely something to, uh, they're rewriting history saying that 1950s was this huge oppressive time when it was a time where there was a lot of prosperity and, you know, a lot of hope for the future.
00:57:37.920 And, uh, what people don't know or think about often is how the 1960s itself was just a huge psyop.
00:57:46.480 Literally all these psychedelic rock bands and these people involved in it, they were all swarmed and surrounded by CIA handlers.
00:57:54.640 Who were the ones who were injecting the drugs into the culture in the first place?
00:57:59.720 I just heard about this, uh, the other day.
00:58:02.360 You guys were talking about it.
00:58:03.840 I'm like, I've never actually, like, heard, heard this before.
00:58:06.200 It's pretty interesting, though.
00:58:07.920 Well, uh, for example, I actually have a little infograph that, uh, gives a bit of a visual reference.
00:58:18.760 Hold on.
00:58:22.420 But, yeah.
00:58:23.360 Drugs were injected into society as part of MKUltra.
00:58:29.360 And I think it had multiple purposes, right?
00:58:33.160 One was to get drugs to, you know, call the masses to warp people's minds and to be able to, uh, repress them easier and to be able to arrest social and political movements.
00:58:46.400 So you have all these anti-war movements, uh, but if you get them all high on acid and you make it all about them smoking weed and doing acid and partying, then that's totally gonna, uh, it's totally gonna mess up the movement and be counterproductive to actually stopping the Vietnam War, right?
00:59:05.500 And then you could also crack down on everybody, too.
00:59:11.280 And it makes a, uh, a new divide of, like, the mainstream media and, like, the parents onlooking.
00:59:17.160 And then the hippies, which is, like, this weird, freaky, degenerate culture that just went really crazy all of a sudden.
00:59:26.540 And then you have, you have the media, like, on one hand, acting like it's, like, fear-mongering about it, but at the same time, they're promoting it, like, 100%.
00:59:38.560 So just, sorry, go ahead, I was gonna change this.
00:59:47.320 I was gonna ask if, what people are giving up this month, or if that's, that's been talked about, I don't know.
00:59:55.720 Okay, yeah, no, that's a good point, actually.
00:59:57.700 We could get back to this.
00:59:59.300 Uh, yeah, for me, personally, I'm giving up weed and alcohol.
01:00:04.820 Whoa!
01:00:05.060 Yeah, so both.
01:00:08.180 So I've already, uh, given up weed for about, like, three weeks now at this point.
01:00:12.240 So I'm already ahead of the game.
01:00:14.100 But, uh, yeah, for beer, I did give up alcohol for about two months at the beginning of the year.
01:00:20.300 And, uh, it kind of snuck its way back in.
01:00:23.020 Like, uh, a couple drinks every, every few nights or so.
01:00:27.400 But, uh, near the end, uh, before May, before this, it was, like, probably about two or three every night.
01:00:33.800 And it was manageable, but, you know, now I want to get rid of it.
01:00:39.220 And now that I've gotten rid of the weed, now this should be easier.
01:00:42.740 So that's what I'm giving up.
01:00:46.540 Do you ever smoke darts?
01:00:48.600 No.
01:00:49.800 Okay.
01:00:50.100 When I quit, it was, it was, like, the recreational trio for me.
01:00:56.680 It was, like, the weed, it was the alcohol, and it was also the darts.
01:01:01.280 And I quit alcohol first.
01:01:06.600 And then weed.
01:01:09.760 And then I, like, smoked cigarettes for, like, two weeks after that.
01:01:13.260 That being said, though, it was, it was, like, a long time coming where I'd been, like, thinking about quitting and thinking about cutting back.
01:01:19.720 And, like, you know, making it 30 days, 60 days, 90 days here and there.
01:01:23.500 And then, like, kind of, like, fucking off for another year.
01:01:26.680 And then, um, yeah.
01:01:29.460 Everyone has their own journey when it comes to this stuff.
01:01:31.760 So, but that's, that's awesome, man.
01:01:33.560 Good for you.
01:01:34.580 One day at a time.
01:01:36.120 That's, that's a good, useful framework where it's, like, if you are trying to quit, like, if you say, I'm never going to do it again, that, that's stupid.
01:01:46.640 Because you can't promise yourself that.
01:01:48.980 No one can promise yourself that.
01:01:50.140 That's such a ridiculous promise to say, I'm never going to do it for the rest of time.
01:01:54.240 Like, you can't, no one can make that promise about anything.
01:01:56.560 But you can say, for today, like, just for today?
01:02:03.080 Yeah, I could probably do that, like, just for today.
01:02:04.860 And that's the thing.
01:02:05.540 You don't have to worry about tomorrow.
01:02:06.560 You don't have to worry about next year.
01:02:07.640 You don't have to worry about fucking next week or even tomorrow.
01:02:10.500 You know, just, just focus on the day in front of you.
01:02:12.860 Even for some people, though, a day is even too long.
01:02:16.560 Like, I, like, yeah.
01:02:18.000 So, it can be, like, a minute.
01:02:19.360 It can be an hour.
01:02:20.300 It can be a week.
01:02:21.220 It can be whatever.
01:02:22.680 You know what I mean?
01:02:23.460 Like, whatever, a day is sometimes too long for people.
01:02:28.700 Like, you know, like, a whole day without going, going without a cigarette.
01:02:31.400 Like, that is terrifying to some people.
01:02:35.460 So, we even cut it less than that.
01:02:37.780 We're seeing it.
01:02:38.880 I don't know if you guys have checked out the Vice page on Diagalon Prime there,
01:02:44.640 the Empire of Diagalon on Telegram.
01:02:46.880 No.
01:02:47.180 So, Rick Freedom here in the YouTube chat nailed it.
01:02:52.420 Weed is so deceptive and a really powerful drug.
01:02:55.240 Yeah.
01:02:56.000 I think weed is probably the one that people are struggling with the most in the first two days.
01:03:00.380 There's people that are like, I can't, like, I couldn't sleep last night.
01:03:03.240 I had crazy nightmares.
01:03:05.100 I have the shakes.
01:03:06.660 Like, I have, like, they're having withdrawal symptoms.
01:03:09.280 And it's like, that's not what is usually painted as the picture of, you know, what weed is.
01:03:14.600 You don't tend to think of, like, you know, opiate-like withdrawals.
01:03:19.960 Right.
01:03:20.500 But that's what people are having.
01:03:22.480 It's non-addictive, supposedly, right?
01:03:24.700 Yeah.
01:03:24.780 Like, I remember people saying weed was never addictive.
01:03:27.240 It's not an addictive drug.
01:03:28.420 Just smoke it.
01:03:29.180 And it's like, it becomes a lifestyle.
01:03:32.280 That's the addicting part.
01:03:33.540 Yeah, they say it's psychologically addictive.
01:03:36.920 And the other thing, too, that I think fucks with people maybe more often than not is, are you mixing tobacco with weed as well?
01:03:45.140 Because that's, now it is physically addictive because you're smoking the nicotine with it, right?
01:03:50.840 So it's certainly hard to separate those two.
01:03:54.300 That's why I stopped by stopping weed.
01:03:57.340 And then I smoked cigarettes for another two weeks to kind of, like, take the edge off or whatever.
01:04:00.600 But, yeah, it's, the analogy I had for weed is that she was a, part of my language, a fuck buddy who was, like, just really not good for me.
01:04:11.860 But it's, like, the sex was really good.
01:04:14.000 So it's, like, oh, man, I really want to go back and, you know, we have such a good time together.
01:04:19.320 And she's, like, oh, come on, come on.
01:04:20.820 And it's, like, okay, fine.
01:04:22.920 And then the next morning I can't get out of bed and I'm just a fucking mess.
01:04:26.280 And I'm, like, oh, my God.
01:04:27.520 Like, Mary Jane, why did you do this to me again?
01:04:29.720 And she's, like, no, stay in bed.
01:04:31.760 Stay in bed.
01:04:32.480 I'm, like, no, you're ruining my life.
01:04:34.640 And then I'm, like, fuck you, Mary Jane.
01:04:36.780 I'm never seeing you again.
01:04:38.460 And then eight hours go by.
01:04:40.900 And she's, like, hey, what are you doing?
01:04:43.480 And it's, like, I can't.
01:04:44.600 I have to focus on this.
01:04:46.140 I can't do that.
01:04:46.780 I have to focus on this today.
01:04:48.440 And it's, like, come on, please.
01:04:50.360 And it's just a vicious cycle.
01:04:53.760 But, yeah, like, I personally had success, like, personifying the drug, especially Mary Jane.
01:05:01.540 Because it is, it's total mind games.
01:05:04.280 It's not just the physical addiction.
01:05:06.380 It's, like, how it makes you feel.
01:05:07.940 What kind of mood it puts you in.
01:05:09.680 And when you don't have that to rely on, fuck, it's hard at the beginning.
01:05:14.800 And it's, it's, man.
01:05:20.400 It's almost like there's someone there kind of, like, talking you into it.
01:05:23.180 And being, like, oh, come on.
01:05:23.980 Like, you know, it'll find a justification.
01:05:26.060 It'll find a rationalization.
01:05:27.480 It'll find a way.
01:05:28.280 It'll find an angle.
01:05:29.220 And in just a little bit.
01:05:31.040 Hey, it's just, hey.
01:05:32.960 Yeah, man.
01:05:33.780 It's fucking hard.
01:05:34.520 Like, my heart goes out to anybody who's struggling with that.
01:05:38.520 Because it, basically, like, by the, when I first realized it was a problem, I'll paint a picture for you.
01:05:44.840 I was home at my parents' house for the summer.
01:05:50.660 I think I was, like, working at a pizzeria at the time.
01:05:52.840 And I was in my routine.
01:05:54.720 Both of my parents were gone during the day.
01:05:57.000 It's, like, 10.30 a.m.
01:05:59.440 I smoke, like, I get my nice little bong with a percolator, blah, blah, blah.
01:06:05.000 And I smoked, like, two bowls, like I usually do.
01:06:08.180 And then I'm, like, I'm going to smoke another one.
01:06:09.860 Smoke a third bowl.
01:06:10.900 And I had this, like, weird fucking, like, vision.
01:06:13.120 Because I'm, like, that was absolutely nothing to me.
01:06:16.080 Like, that, like, I'm completely unfazed.
01:06:18.000 Like, three bong hits to my dome.
01:06:19.760 Like, not even fucking coughing.
01:06:21.480 And I had this, like, vision back to, like, when I was in grade 7, grade 8.
01:06:25.480 Being, like, I'm never going to use drugs.
01:06:27.100 And it's, like, what the fuck has come of me?
01:06:29.620 I just did, like, three, like, bong hits to my head.
01:06:33.000 Like, it was fucking nothing.
01:06:35.020 Like, wow.
01:06:36.360 What the fuck?
01:06:37.180 And that's when I realized, huh, maybe I have an issue with this.
01:06:39.600 But my point is, it took me two years from that realization until I actually started to
01:06:46.020 have any success with actually starting to quit.
01:06:50.380 Like, it took a long fucking time for me to, like, get to that point.
01:06:54.580 And it, because when I made that realization, slowly, I got into this stupid habit of, hey,
01:07:00.320 I'm going to quit tonight.
01:07:03.180 And then it's, like, the little addict brain inside of me is, like, no, you're not.
01:07:06.680 You're going to smoke more weed than you usually do tonight, idiot.
01:07:10.300 Because I'm in charge.
01:07:11.200 Well, because it's your last time, too.
01:07:12.680 So you have to, like, smoke extra because you're never going to smoke it again.
01:07:16.580 Yeah.
01:07:17.120 Yeah.
01:07:17.320 It's a vicious cycle.
01:07:21.280 That's another thing, too.
01:07:22.420 Like, if you're trying to quit and you only make it a day or you only make it two days,
01:07:27.620 that's still something.
01:07:29.420 You know?
01:07:29.620 Don't beat yourself up because, like, you know, the self-destructive part of you that
01:07:34.260 wants to make you feel like shit, like the devil, whatever you want to call it, the addict,
01:07:37.360 whatever, it always tries to use that to make you feel like shit.
01:07:41.900 It's like, oh, like, you only made it a day because you're a loser.
01:07:44.880 Fuck you.
01:07:45.360 Like, you give up, you know?
01:07:47.380 But it's like, no, you should feel good about even making it a day or whatever it is.
01:07:51.100 You know?
01:07:51.360 Like, try to be kind on yourself.
01:07:53.360 Easier said than done.
01:07:54.700 Much easier said than done.
01:07:56.060 But I like the idea of that.
01:07:58.820 You, like, whatever success you have, you just stack it up and you just keep going.
01:08:03.680 Right?
01:08:04.160 Like, you don't quit just because, oh, I only made it five days and might as well just give
01:08:08.700 it up and go back.
01:08:09.840 Right?
01:08:10.880 Yeah, absolutely.
01:08:11.480 You should learn from what caused you to do it or what happened right before you felt
01:08:15.900 like doing it or, um, and learn from it and try again.
01:08:19.940 Don't give up.
01:08:22.200 Yeah.
01:08:22.880 Yeah.
01:08:23.240 That's, that's, that's when you really start to do the work.
01:08:25.480 When you start to look at like why you're doing this because, uh, spoiler alert for those
01:08:32.980 who, who think they really do have a problem.
01:08:34.920 Like when you go into therapy or 12 step programs on this, eventually you realize it's not the
01:08:42.820 drugs that are the problem.
01:08:44.260 You are the problem.
01:08:45.400 There's something wrong with you, motherfucker.
01:08:47.140 You know, like it's just, you're using the drugs to escape something, but, um, you know,
01:08:52.180 you'll get to that point at, uh, when you get there.
01:08:55.580 Hmm.
01:08:56.020 Um, interesting experience with weed you have though, like, uh, definitely the, the tobacco
01:09:02.900 with the weed makes it a new monster.
01:09:05.120 I would say from my experience, especially with, uh, my friends growing up, they would
01:09:10.600 do the bong hits like, uh, in lots of places, Ontario, you just have little pot, like water
01:09:16.920 bottles where you stick a piece in and that's how you, uh, started smoking in high school.
01:09:21.700 Right.
01:09:22.640 And then, uh, as you grow older, you like the triple perk bong or whatever you're talking
01:09:28.640 about and you pack tobacco, like all the way to the top.
01:09:31.620 And I never got into doing that.
01:09:33.640 I couldn't even imagine, like I would cough my brains out.
01:09:36.940 So I switched to only smoking, uh, like no tobacco and just the weed.
01:09:42.300 And that made it for now, uh, like where I am at now to be able to quit where it's not
01:09:50.380 like I'm physically jonesing and stuff, but like you said, there is that want to like
01:09:55.280 escape that's still there.
01:09:58.060 It's more so with the falling asleep with me where it really got to me where we're without
01:10:03.680 doing it at night.
01:10:04.620 I just have crazy, like insane dreams, like very violent.
01:10:09.520 Like I feel like, I feel like I'm always trying to solve my problems in the middle of the night
01:10:14.140 and I wake up and I'm like, Oh wait, you don't have to solve anything.
01:10:17.360 You just have to sleep, but after like a few weeks of it, I feel like, uh, uh, my sleep
01:10:25.880 when I wake up, I feel better than I did before when I was smoking weed.
01:10:30.480 Like people think that smoking weed is like a medicine to fall asleep and have a good night's
01:10:35.620 sleep.
01:10:36.080 But I've been watching some stuff lately.
01:10:38.260 Uh, I don't know if you've heard of the Andrew Huberman podcast where he's talking about
01:10:42.200 you're like missing out on a huge part of your REM sleep.
01:10:45.140 If you smoke weed every night to go to sleep, like you're not actually getting fully rested
01:10:51.840 when you do that.
01:10:54.140 So it's kind of interesting that they have weed for insomnia when it has that counterproductive
01:10:59.240 effect for sleep in the longterm.
01:11:02.420 Well, and there's a difference too, between like CBD without THC in it.
01:11:06.480 And I think that's better for like pain or sleep.
01:11:09.400 Um, and it's not like addictive.
01:11:12.200 It doesn't have like the euphoria feeling of being high.
01:11:16.580 So I know a lot of people will use that instead of smoking weed.
01:11:22.740 And yeah, it's not like abstinence is always the best route for everybody, especially at
01:11:27.340 the beginning.
01:11:27.780 Like if you're chain smoking, like two packs a day, like quitting cold Turkey, I don't
01:11:34.460 know.
01:11:34.780 You're going to have a bad time.
01:11:35.360 You're going to have a bad time.
01:11:36.540 This, this is when I can actually speak to you.
01:11:38.460 Cause like of all of these, the worst I ever had a problem with and still kind of do is
01:11:42.400 nicotine.
01:11:43.580 Right.
01:11:44.220 I smoked for like 10 years and then I, I switched to the vape and like, we were talking about
01:11:49.440 this in the vice thing.
01:11:50.840 Is vape better?
01:11:52.000 I don't know.
01:11:52.760 I think it is through my experience.
01:11:55.160 I can say that like, I, uh, whenever I, I switched completely from cigarettes to vaping,
01:12:01.320 my, everything about my health improved, like my cardio improved, my taste, my sleep,
01:12:07.600 like, like, you know, your skin, like there, there wasn't really anything I could think
01:12:11.880 of that didn't get better after like, even things like, like the, the social aspects of
01:12:17.100 it too.
01:12:17.360 You don't fucking stink.
01:12:18.520 Your car doesn't smell like cigarettes.
01:12:20.540 Like, you know, you know what I mean?
01:12:21.640 Like all those, the, the negative aspects of smoke, they kind of go away.
01:12:24.760 So it's a good transition, you know, to get away from cigarettes, at least temporarily.
01:12:30.060 Um, I know a lot of people now say it's just as bad or worse.
01:12:32.780 I don't believe that it's worse or I certainly don't, or sorry, I don't believe that it's
01:12:37.500 as bad.
01:12:37.900 I certainly don't believe that it's worse, at least not in the short term.
01:12:43.180 Yeah.
01:12:43.740 Super villain 73 says vaping is 5% as bad as smoking health wise.
01:12:47.500 I believe that person personally.
01:12:48.980 I do believe that.
01:12:49.820 I think that that's probably accurate, but there is a difference too, between quitting
01:12:54.240 vaping as well.
01:12:55.860 Like I, I noticed that whenever I have like, that's really what I've committed to.
01:13:00.860 Like, okay, I'm done with, I'm done with vaping.
01:13:02.660 Now I'm on the gum.
01:13:04.300 Um, and, and so like, whenever I tried to quit smoking though, I tried to transition
01:13:09.840 to the gum didn't work.
01:13:11.180 It's, it just didn't work.
01:13:12.300 Like, you know, I couldn't do it.
01:13:14.280 I couldn't go cold Turkey.
01:13:16.080 Right.
01:13:16.460 And I couldn't just switching to the gum didn't help either.
01:13:19.320 But when I switched to the vape, I was doing kind of both.
01:13:21.540 I was smoking sometimes.
01:13:23.160 And then I was vaping other times, you know, so I, like I transitioned from one to the other.
01:13:27.580 And then once I was on to the vape fully, I didn't even want cigarettes anymore.
01:13:32.160 Like now, like, I mean, I have smoked since like very rarely, but now, now the idea of
01:13:37.460 having a cigarette, um, like I, if I was offered a choice, I would rather have a vape than
01:13:42.460 a cigarette.
01:13:43.320 Right.
01:13:45.160 And then now the gum, right.
01:13:46.980 So like, uh, you know, the gum works once you switch to the vape, it's easy to go from
01:13:51.220 the vape to the gum.
01:13:52.140 But now you're hooked on the gum.
01:13:55.000 Yeah, it's true.
01:13:56.800 Um, actually I have done this before too, where I had switched to the gum and it's,
01:14:02.220 it's much, eventually you start even, uh, like you stop even realizing that you crave
01:14:08.560 the gum.
01:14:09.040 If that, if that makes sense.
01:14:11.260 Like if you do it long enough, you go longer and longer without being like, fuck, I need
01:14:15.500 a gum.
01:14:15.960 Right.
01:14:16.400 And eventually you just realize like, oh, I don't want it at all anymore.
01:14:19.280 And it's only whenever you relapse and go like, okay, I'm going to buy another bottle
01:14:23.180 of vape juice because I want to vape this weekend, you know, cause you have that urge
01:14:27.300 and you do it.
01:14:27.900 Then, then all of a sudden you're vaping again.
01:14:29.700 So, but, but I think I've got, I think now you're vaping and you got like five pieces
01:14:38.120 of gum and it's like, oh shit, what happened?
01:14:39.920 Whoops.
01:14:40.120 Well, I mean, look, the, the vape has, uh, or sorry, the, the gum is working.
01:14:46.100 I'm like, uh, two weeks on the gum.
01:14:49.080 You ever try the patch?
01:14:51.260 Nah, fuck that.
01:14:52.520 I need, I need, I need the, I need the oral fixation, man.
01:14:56.160 I need, I need the, even if I quit like the nicotine gum, I'm, I'm sure I will still chew
01:15:02.880 gum always.
01:15:03.900 Um, yeah, you should switch to like just regular gum.
01:15:07.680 Yeah, I will eventually see what happens, but I like aspartame is probably worse than
01:15:12.640 you, worse for you.
01:15:13.580 You can get gum without aspartame.
01:15:14.940 It's called pure gum has no aspartame.
01:15:17.980 Yeah.
01:15:18.120 Yeah.
01:15:18.180 Like one brand of gum in the entire country, Lee, but I hear you.
01:15:23.340 Kaboobo fairy likes putting things in his mouth.
01:15:25.680 Yes.
01:15:26.280 Yeah.
01:15:26.780 I do.
01:15:27.520 Real.
01:15:27.920 Yeah.
01:15:28.240 Fuck off.
01:15:28.800 I will say to add to like the, like the many, many benefits of quitting smoking.
01:15:33.320 I, I broke my scaphoid bone in this risk risk.
01:15:37.060 You can maybe see there's like a scar right there, but, uh, the doctor was like, Hey, you
01:15:41.700 should not smoke.
01:15:42.900 That'll really help with the circulation because it's hard to get blood supply in that, in that
01:15:47.800 bone.
01:15:48.640 And, uh, you know, I, I had the injury for years and my range of motion was like only
01:15:53.520 like this.
01:15:54.140 And it was only when I actually quit everything like years and years and years later after
01:15:58.860 there's this interest in injury that the range of motion actually came back, which was when
01:16:04.300 I actually stopped smoking everything, uh, like a long time after the, the injury itself.
01:16:08.960 So like, Oh, the doctor was right when I came to that.
01:16:12.360 But, um, I will say, speaking of oral fixation as well, again, everyone has their own journey,
01:16:17.820 but soda water with lime, like it's got the, it's got that to it.
01:16:25.000 It's got that because a huge problem for me was, you know, I can't just have one or two
01:16:32.300 beers.
01:16:33.480 It's like something just wrong with me.
01:16:35.080 It's like, okay, I'm going to have another one.
01:16:37.120 I'm going to have another one.
01:16:38.240 And I just need something to drink.
01:16:39.500 So now when I go out, I just make sure it's soda water.
01:16:41.460 And then I'm just like pissing like a madman.
01:16:44.240 No, I feel, I feel that too, man.
01:16:46.860 Still always drinking something.
01:16:49.140 Uh, I'm pissed all the time during my streams because I, my oral fixation is, uh, I want
01:16:56.360 a beer.
01:16:56.940 First of all, first and foremost, that would be the best or a mixed drink.
01:17:00.380 That would be ideal.
01:17:01.400 Right.
01:17:02.140 To be honest, I'm going to admit I'm having a hard time.
01:17:04.820 Like even like not feeling anxious doing a stream right now because I didn't drink before.
01:17:11.460 Like that means that it, there's something wrong there.
01:17:15.200 Right now, even if it like, I would do like two or three drinks before a stream and then
01:17:22.060 I would stop and I would get like clear minded so that I could do everything properly and
01:17:27.400 not be intoxicated.
01:17:28.560 But that initial boost really helped me like, uh, loosen up before a stream and not doing
01:17:34.680 that is a lot more difficult.
01:17:36.700 So that tells me something that I need to get over that right there.
01:17:42.880 You know, you know, it's one thing, just if I could tie this into politics for a second,
01:17:46.760 you know what?
01:17:47.140 One thing I think that's kind of fucked is like, so recently they, they upped the tax
01:17:53.700 on vape fluid.
01:17:54.560 Right.
01:17:55.420 And I just, I went to go grab, I just went and grabbed a piece of gum.
01:17:58.720 Right.
01:17:59.720 And I'm thinking like, okay, a, a, a box of this gum is like 40 bucks.
01:18:05.460 And it's like, if the government really cared about you, wouldn't they?
01:18:08.740 And like, they, there's all these like quit smoking campaigns, right?
01:18:12.420 Like they don't want you to smoke cigarettes.
01:18:14.220 They tax them through the roof, right?
01:18:16.240 All these things.
01:18:16.900 It's like, well, isn't that something like they should invest money that they generate
01:18:20.880 from smoking to into like quit smoking AIDS?
01:18:25.700 Like why would you, why would you raise the taxes on vaping?
01:18:29.560 If you want people to quit smoking, I realized that it's not necessarily a solution, but it
01:18:33.860 is something that people go to in that process and saying like, you know, a box of this gum
01:18:38.840 is 40 bucks.
01:18:40.000 It's like, that would cost it for regular gum.
01:18:42.180 That would cost like five bucks.
01:18:44.180 You get what I'm saying?
01:18:45.620 I'm pretty sure though, that the same people that like, it's the people that make the not
01:18:50.860 the, the aids to stop smoking are the same people who make cigarettes.
01:18:56.340 I'm pretty sure it's like a monopoly.
01:18:58.140 Like they, they are in, they've cashed in on both.
01:19:03.260 Yeah, they have.
01:19:04.400 That's what I'm just saying.
01:19:05.540 I think it's the same companies.
01:19:07.820 I think the point I'm trying to make here is like, if they really cared about you and
01:19:12.040 they, like, they act like they do, they spend all this money on advertising, right?
01:19:15.580 To stop smoking.
01:19:16.500 And they, they put these fucking gross images on cigarette packs.
01:19:19.920 And they, and they want you to, you know, it's, it's costly on the healthcare system
01:19:25.720 and all these things.
01:19:26.440 And then, you know, the, the ways that you can get people to quit, it's like, yeah, but
01:19:30.140 they're, they're expensive.
01:19:31.380 It's like 40 bucks a week, right?
01:19:32.880 For me to quit.
01:19:33.740 Like, that's how much I would go through in gum, maybe a little bit less, but just throwing
01:19:38.840 that out there.
01:19:39.340 They're like, why would you raise the taxes on vaping?
01:19:45.140 Why would you try to limit it?
01:19:46.560 It's almost like they want people to smoke because they don't really make as much money
01:19:50.220 off of the vaping as they do off the smoking.
01:19:52.100 One thing's for sure.
01:19:57.800 One thing's for sure.
01:19:59.320 One thing's for sure.
01:20:00.180 Canadians get hosed when it comes to the price of drugs here.
01:20:04.140 Like every single, you know, like alcohol, so expensive.
01:20:09.040 I guess weed is the only thing that's maybe a little bit cheaper in terms of quality, but
01:20:12.820 like cigarettes.
01:20:13.220 Didn't they just raise that too?
01:20:14.460 Beer?
01:20:14.860 The price of beer went up too?
01:20:17.280 Did they?
01:20:17.760 I'm not sure.
01:20:18.420 I think so close up 99 in the chat says I get paid to drink.
01:20:25.320 So quitting is not an option, but I get paid to drink because I don't like getting drunk.
01:20:31.240 What the fuck does that mean?
01:20:33.040 What do you do that you get paid to drink because you don't like getting drunk?
01:20:39.440 That's sounds like some MK ultra shit.
01:20:43.360 Yeah.
01:20:43.540 It's a very specific job title.
01:20:45.780 You heard description you have there.
01:20:48.420 It sounds like they're drunk right now.
01:20:54.380 I just want to read some super chats here before we go any further.
01:20:58.860 Uncle Kenny is since $5.
01:21:01.720 Thank you.
01:21:02.260 Saying a good song would have been needle in the damage done, but Neil is woke.
01:21:06.540 Yeah.
01:21:06.780 So that was referring to the songs at the beginning.
01:21:09.540 And yeah, that is a good song.
01:21:12.480 Thank you.
01:21:13.240 And Satoshi Ape and real, real Donald T with 80 bucks.
01:21:17.280 Wow.
01:21:17.560 Thank you.
01:21:18.140 Really appreciate that.
01:21:19.420 Let's go.
01:21:20.560 Yeah.
01:21:21.220 He's saying during the time of MK ultra LSD drop out and drop in was the thing.
01:21:27.560 I was mad when my sister repeated the stories of my past to her kids.
01:21:33.420 Yeah.
01:21:33.980 Uh, I always wanted to know what my parents, uh, did in the sixties and my dad will never
01:21:39.520 reveal it.
01:21:40.440 Uh, he says that he had a, had a stint with drugs that he's like not proud of.
01:21:45.920 Uh, and then around the time when he was 19 or 20, he just quit everything and got into
01:21:50.940 professional bodybuilding, uh, no professional, uh, power lifting.
01:21:55.680 And that sent his life on the right course.
01:21:58.480 Right.
01:21:59.060 But I always try to like pry on him to find out what drugs he was doing.
01:22:03.480 I know that he wanted to go to Woodstock, but his, uh, my grandma said that he would be
01:22:08.600 kicked out of the house.
01:22:09.440 If he ended up going there, he was like 16 or 17 years old at the time.
01:22:13.540 Uh, but she probably had his best interest in mind there.
01:22:19.580 Like when you think about Woodstock in the sixties and how they idealized it, like it
01:22:24.860 sounds honestly, like it was pretty terrible, like three days, like it's, it's all there's,
01:22:31.460 there's not enough facilities to go to the washroom.
01:22:33.840 Like, is there even enough water or food there?
01:22:36.280 You're blared with loud music all day and night.
01:22:40.020 Uh, there's good acid, bad acid going around.
01:22:43.540 All these drug dealers, probably criminals all there.
01:22:48.100 Um, it was raining.
01:22:49.580 It was muddy.
01:22:50.960 Yeah.
01:22:51.800 Um, but then the media, the media idealized, the media idealizes it.
01:22:56.360 So even probably people who were there who couldn't wait to get the fuck home will be
01:22:59.840 like, I was at Woodstock.
01:23:01.900 I was there at that iconic moment in history.
01:23:05.140 Did you hear the theory that everybody who went to Woodstock got microchipped against their
01:23:10.240 will?
01:23:10.800 And that was the whole reason for the concert.
01:23:13.080 You haven't heard that one?
01:23:14.720 No.
01:23:15.900 That's another Devin stack video.
01:23:17.300 No, I'm not making that up, but, uh, that's a good one.
01:23:21.040 That's a good one.
01:23:21.700 4chan.
01:23:22.200 Do your thing.
01:23:23.200 Microchip.
01:23:23.820 Well, I think it, I think it, no, I totally made that up.
01:23:28.120 I just thought of that though.
01:23:29.520 That's a good one.
01:23:30.120 I want you to make a video about that.
01:23:31.540 I think that was before the time of microchip conspiracies.
01:23:35.540 So that's exactly why.
01:23:38.380 Um, although I have heard of the theory that Woodstock was, uh, an MK ultra, uh, mass trauma
01:23:47.360 inducing experiment where they were trying to traumatize the population and they had CIA
01:23:53.720 drug dealers, uh, or intelligence going in and, uh, giving away millions, hundreds of
01:24:02.400 thousands of hits of LSD to people.
01:24:05.560 Just imagine.
01:24:06.520 I'm just imagining like some CIA agents with LSD, like drugging people with like a super
01:24:11.920 strong type of LSD, grabbing them and nabbing them into a van and just like trying to like
01:24:16.980 do like a makeshift, like quick, like MK ultra.
01:24:19.500 It's like, you want to kill the president.
01:24:21.180 You're going to kill the president.
01:24:22.160 This is what you're going to do.
01:24:23.080 Okay.
01:24:23.280 You're going to grab it.
01:24:24.220 Like trying to like, just, you know, experimenting with their tactics.
01:24:28.140 I think there's certainly, uh, some congruency there though, with, uh, around the same time
01:24:33.180 of, of experimenting with LSD and mind control and all that shit.
01:24:37.060 So that's where it lines up, but there was a hospital in Montreal that actually was doing
01:24:44.020 MK ultra, um, on patients trying to, well, they claimed it was to treat schizophrenia and
01:24:50.100 they would give LSD to their patients.
01:24:51.960 And a lot of their family members were like, um, when they're, when their family members
01:24:56.700 would return to them, they were, would be returned in worse condition than when they
01:25:00.540 found them.
01:25:01.360 Um, and using electroshock therapy, like this happened in Montreal, like this is in Canada.
01:25:05.920 The same writing as Justin Trudeau.
01:25:11.520 No, there's actually something to this.
01:25:12.940 I don't know.
01:25:13.500 Cause I know McGill was involved with MK ultra research.
01:25:17.380 And if you look at it, McGill has this very, um, interesting, uh, history of, of connections
01:25:25.640 of the highest, like for Trudeau into McGill, um, like there, uh, McGill was the one that
01:25:31.840 was awarded a lot of these massive contracts for the COVID research.
01:25:35.920 They were involved.
01:25:37.040 They've been involved with a lot of government scandals over the years.
01:25:39.760 So like, there's this, uh, weird kind of connection between McGill and a lot of these,
01:25:44.220 uh, the elites in Canada, obviously.
01:25:46.540 Well, yeah.
01:25:47.280 And, and just to add to that, cause it's kind of the same category, just the, the open
01:25:51.840 corruption with like SNC Lavalin, this, this Montreal based company, right.
01:25:56.840 Where it's like, Oh, you guys are just totally in bed with the government and doing all the
01:26:00.160 sorts of weird corruption.
01:26:01.100 And like, no one cares.
01:26:02.340 It's like, I wouldn't be surprised, especially if you consider the weird power and authority
01:26:07.580 that Quebec has, uh, over Canadian politics in general, just in terms of being able to
01:26:14.700 like bully people around and everything.
01:26:16.680 So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of, that goes a lot deeper.
01:26:20.020 Yeah.
01:26:21.880 Hmm.
01:26:23.100 Well, I could just give a bit of background on MK ultra and using LSD to mind control
01:26:28.500 people.
01:26:29.100 I think this is a good topic psychedelics to get into because it there's a, there's some
01:26:33.440 good and some bad, I think to this.
01:26:36.060 And, uh, I completely glossed over all the bad stuff when I was younger, but I'm starting
01:26:40.860 to see more of it now, especially now that I'm getting more red pilled.
01:26:44.960 But, uh, yeah, in the fifties, they were using LSD.
01:26:49.980 They were trying to figure out if they could, uh, use it to control people's minds.
01:26:53.760 They'd use it on like soldiers and stuff.
01:26:55.760 And then there was documents that, uh, were, you know, they're top secret, but somehow they
01:27:01.320 got, uh, some of them unredacted and it was showing that they were giving it to people
01:27:05.320 against their will, like, uh, the, the CIA and yeah, who, uh, they had people, uh, of
01:27:16.000 intelligence surrounding all these different artists and these different activists trying
01:27:21.100 to get LSD into their circles, uh, specifically like the Beatles too.
01:27:26.060 There were all these people around them, uh, trying to get them to peer pressuring them
01:27:30.760 to try it and to, uh, promote it at different times.
01:27:34.840 Uh, George Harrison's dentist dosed all the Beatles with acid in their coffee against their
01:27:41.100 will.
01:27:41.740 And this is like a thing that they write in their biographies and they were furious at
01:27:45.540 first, but then they grew to like it.
01:27:47.640 Now, like, why would the guy, their dentist just randomly dose them?
01:27:52.840 Yeah.
01:27:54.040 Hmm.
01:27:55.400 What was the dentist last name?
01:27:57.020 No, but, uh, that's, that's interesting.
01:27:59.180 Cause it's like, could it be like a nefarious plot or was it like the sixties, bro?
01:28:04.380 And like, yo, Sergeant peppers.
01:28:08.160 Although did the LSD come first or the Sergeant peppers?
01:28:11.280 Interesting.
01:28:12.080 I don't know.
01:28:12.480 I think, uh, it all came in tandem and the same people who are into like the free Masonic
01:28:19.340 lodges, they inserted all this iconography into all these albums and they had writers who
01:28:25.600 were, uh, inserting all these different ideas that came from the secret societies and the
01:28:31.220 elites, you know, this is in all the, like, we know this is in all like the popular music
01:28:36.540 today, but it was also going on at that time too.
01:28:40.540 Like if you look at any Beatles album cover, it's filled with all these, uh, satanic and
01:28:46.300 occultic figures like Alistair Crowley, uh, who had like, uh, the, the same ideologies that
01:28:54.240 were in like these skull and bones, free Masonic lodges, and all these different things that
01:28:59.580 the elites were talking about behind closed doors in order to control society.
01:29:04.040 And if you, uh, if you rearrange Sergeant pepper's lonely heart club, then you get Jeffrey Epstein
01:29:14.380 pedophile Island.
01:29:16.180 Right, right.
01:29:17.120 All the letters.
01:29:18.060 And it sounds insane.
01:29:19.360 I know.
01:29:19.920 I know you play led, listen to this Led Zeppelin album backwards.
01:29:23.300 You could hear him.
01:29:24.000 I am the devil.
01:29:26.660 I am the devil.
01:29:29.200 Yeah.
01:29:30.440 Whoa.
01:29:31.900 Um,
01:29:32.500 no, I mean, who knows, you know, they clearly, um, cloned, uh, Paul McCartney.
01:29:39.420 He clearly died that whole thing.
01:29:41.740 Um, no, I've never actually looked into that one, but, um,
01:29:45.040 I have actually, it's weird.
01:29:46.940 Is, is, is there, does it hold water?
01:29:49.020 Is there actually something to it?
01:29:50.300 A little bit.
01:29:51.260 I mean, they, they call him fall instead of Paul.
01:29:55.820 What?
01:29:56.760 Yeah.
01:29:58.360 What?
01:29:59.120 Wow.
01:29:59.440 There's a whole documentary on it.
01:30:00.660 I've seen it.
01:30:01.200 It's, it's kind of, I don't know.
01:30:03.260 It's kind of too Spurgy for me, but I mean, there is some, it sounds like a good watch though.
01:30:07.980 It is.
01:30:08.360 It's definitely entertaining.
01:30:09.840 How, how, how long is it?
01:30:11.700 I don't know.
01:30:12.180 I, I watched it a long time ago.
01:30:13.520 It's probably just over an hour.
01:30:14.860 Maybe I'm guessing it's on bit shoot.
01:30:17.900 You could probably find it there.
01:30:19.240 Yeah.
01:30:19.480 Nice.
01:30:20.440 Yeah.
01:30:21.020 But yeah, it's interesting.
01:30:23.480 I'll watch that after.
01:30:25.040 And then they replaced Paul McCartney with fall.
01:30:29.180 I'll watch that after my nightly, uh, flat earth doc.
01:30:33.120 That sounds like some good watching.
01:30:35.320 Yeah.
01:30:35.840 Um, so, so what do you guys think about psychedelics though, as a whole, like, is this in the same
01:30:41.400 league is this other stuff we're talking about?
01:30:43.740 Is it a, is it like a sacrament to get some kind of transcendence and unlock some new information
01:30:50.140 about the world?
01:30:51.420 Or is it just over self-indulgence into the ego or what do you guys think of it?
01:30:58.220 So I think another thing to bring up on, on this question as well is like micro dosing
01:31:03.140 is a thing that's becoming more common, which I don't really know much about other than
01:31:09.560 probably what the average person has heard, which is for those who don't know, it's like
01:31:14.060 a small amounts of psychosyllabine, which is like magic mushrooms or small amounts of
01:31:19.060 LSD or small amounts of MDMA.
01:31:22.380 Right.
01:31:23.060 Does anyone know more about this topic?
01:31:25.700 Yeah.
01:31:25.940 Yeah.
01:31:26.140 So depression, right?
01:31:27.820 I think, uh, here, here to help spread the light for 20, just nailed it.
01:31:31.940 He just summarized exactly how I feel about psychedelics.
01:31:35.600 Mushrooms are original to the earth, millions of years old.
01:31:38.400 Unlike LSD, LSD is, is a, is a man-made, um, it's, I don't know, there's something about
01:31:45.280 it.
01:31:45.420 That's all I've never done it because of this.
01:31:47.440 I don't like the idea.
01:31:48.640 Yeah.
01:31:49.020 I don't like the idea of this synthetic, you know, chemical that like, you know, I, I'm
01:31:54.500 a big fan of mushrooms.
01:31:57.040 Um, uh, like of all the drugs that I will advocate mushrooms are one, but I, I also don't, I don't
01:32:03.780 know.
01:32:03.900 I've never tried it.
01:32:04.640 So maybe I shouldn't say that much, but I don't, I don't buy this whole micro dosing
01:32:08.140 bullshit.
01:32:08.620 I think that, um, either go big or go home.
01:32:12.780 Um, yeah, a hundred percent, a hundred percent, when you're going to do mushrooms, you do
01:32:16.740 a fuckload of them and you, you, I personally like the bad trips.
01:32:21.500 I like whenever it gets real scary and, and you work some shit out.
01:32:26.040 Like that's, that's what I think mushrooms are for.
01:32:28.340 I think there's something very powerful.
01:32:29.960 Like to me, I would summarize it like to me, mushrooms are what connects you to the old
01:32:34.000 gods.
01:32:34.820 That's my, that's my view on mushrooms.
01:32:36.940 That's the, the, the God of earth, the gods of earth and, and tree and soil and, um, water.
01:32:45.640 There's something very real about that experience.
01:32:50.020 I like it personally.
01:32:51.440 I like it.
01:32:52.380 I think there's something to that.
01:32:53.940 The fact that it's more natural.
01:32:55.480 So you're saying I should do mushrooms.
01:32:58.060 I'm saying, I'm saying.
01:32:59.840 Wait till June 1st.
01:33:00.980 Okay.
01:33:01.260 I'm saying that look, look, I'm not saying do them regularly.
01:33:07.200 I'm saying like once every two to four years, I take a big mushroom trip and I, uh, go to,
01:33:15.300 go to dark, dark places.
01:33:17.740 How, how many, uh, grams do you like, like, like hero doses?
01:33:23.280 Like seven.
01:33:24.700 Wow.
01:33:25.300 No, I'm with Barry on this.
01:33:26.940 Yeah.
01:33:27.820 Wow.
01:33:28.360 I guess you're a big guy too.
01:33:29.920 That's crazy.
01:33:32.580 Um, I've, I've certainly heard a lot of like anecdotes from people of it being them having
01:33:39.460 a trip where they took away something positive from it.
01:33:42.860 I would say I've heard that more than I've heard people having bad experiences.
01:33:48.380 And if I'm perfectly honest for someone like who hasn't used drugs or alcohol in years,
01:33:54.500 it's like, that's probably the one where it's like, maybe, maybe I would, maybe I would,
01:33:59.180 you know, maybe I would go for a little, uh, you know, mushroom trip or something, you know,
01:34:04.660 on a, on a canoe trip or something.
01:34:07.220 I don't know.
01:34:07.840 But that's, that's exactly to me.
01:34:10.080 It's like, like, I, I hate, I hate drug spiritualism, but to me, like, that's one that
01:34:15.300 actually applies.
01:34:16.180 I don't know if you'd even call it spiritualism.
01:34:18.160 It's just like, it's like self-reflection or, or, you know, self-introspection.
01:34:22.080 Um, and like, yeah, that's how you do it.
01:34:25.540 To me, that is how you, you don't fucking take, you know, four grams of mushrooms and
01:34:29.460 then wander through downtown Toronto.
01:34:31.300 That's retarded.
01:34:32.300 It sounds horrible.
01:34:33.300 Yeah.
01:34:33.620 Like that's not going to be a good time.
01:34:35.660 Um, that's a bad time sober.
01:34:37.340 Yeah, exactly.
01:34:40.200 You take a shitload of them and you're like, when you're off in the woods somewhere or I
01:34:44.400 thought I was going to die.
01:34:45.760 It's like, Oh my God, were you tripping?
01:34:47.020 No, I was dead sober.
01:34:48.040 It was just terrifying.
01:34:49.840 Uh, the crackhead came at me.
01:34:53.160 I didn't know what to do.
01:34:54.780 Um, Rogue Spears says hero doses are not fun.
01:34:57.580 No, they're not.
01:34:58.240 That's the point.
01:34:59.680 They're, they're, they're bad.
01:35:01.320 I like it.
01:35:03.920 No, I agree with you on the, on the hero doses.
01:35:06.960 I feel like when you take them, whatever has been bothering you in your subconscious will
01:35:12.860 come to the surface and you'll have to face it head on and it'll be difficult.
01:35:18.040 And that, that's been my experience.
01:35:20.160 And that's why I feel like it's kind of like a transcendent, uh, important experience.
01:35:25.840 I've come to conclusions after it, after like a difficult trip, like I need to be nicer
01:35:31.280 to my parents.
01:35:32.260 And that was like the big red pill of it.
01:35:34.920 Yes.
01:35:35.540 Yes.
01:35:36.020 Interesting.
01:35:36.420 I know exactly what you're talking about where it's like, you, you go, mushrooms are so weird
01:35:41.740 too.
01:35:41.980 Cause it's like so wavy.
01:35:43.220 Like it goes into like, you, you have no idea what the fuck is going on.
01:35:46.580 And then it drops back down and you have this moment of like massive, like introspection
01:35:51.500 and like, Oh my God, I'm a piece of shit.
01:35:53.580 And then, and then you come back up and you're like, Oh man, life is great again.
01:35:56.940 And then you just get slammed back down into the dark despair.
01:36:00.280 I love that.
01:36:01.440 Yeah.
01:36:01.840 I feel like it has a good afterglow too.
01:36:04.500 Like the afterglow is almost always good because whatever turmoil you went through, then you
01:36:09.580 have like a sense of peace after like, Whoa, we survived the war kind of, kind of, that's
01:36:14.840 the other thing too, is like when it comes to mushrooms, it's like, I I've done hero.
01:36:19.120 It's, I never, you know, it's not like the next week.
01:36:22.200 I'm like, damn, I really want to do that again.
01:36:24.500 It's like, no, no, I'm good for like another three, four years.
01:36:27.800 Like, I don't need to do this again.
01:36:29.020 Like I, I, I picked up the Alan Watts.
01:36:32.060 If you guys know Alan Watts, he's got a great thing when it comes to drugs.
01:36:35.820 And it's like, you know, drug use is like answering a phone call.
01:36:40.100 You pick up the phone, you get the message.
01:36:42.640 And then whenever you get the message, you put the phone back down and you don't pick
01:36:46.160 it up again until you feel the need, like, you know, to answer it once again.
01:36:50.120 Do you get what I mean?
01:36:50.880 Like, you don't, you don't just stand there with the phone, you know, hoping that like a
01:36:55.340 schizophrenic listening to voices and voices and more voices.
01:36:58.460 Yeah.
01:36:58.700 And then another phone and then another phone.
01:37:01.660 Yeah.
01:37:02.060 Just put like, you know, you got the K I got the message, put the phone down, like you
01:37:05.320 and, and go about your life.
01:37:06.460 Like you don't need to go.
01:37:07.720 So anyways, I'd never felt the need to like use mushrooms.
01:37:10.780 Like I'm like alcohol where you, you know, Oh man, I want to get drunk again or weed.
01:37:16.240 Oh, I want to get high again.
01:37:17.140 I never feel that with mushrooms until that, that period rolls around again.
01:37:21.780 It's like, Oh, okay.
01:37:22.520 I'm ready to, yeah.
01:37:23.840 I'd say that.
01:37:24.500 I say that summarizes kind of the appeal for drugs for me in general, which is like, how
01:37:30.140 will this affect my brain chemistry?
01:37:31.840 Will it be interesting?
01:37:32.920 Perhaps I will have new thoughts and my mind will go to new places.
01:37:35.700 Like that's always been kind of like the, huh?
01:37:37.880 Like, let's try it.
01:37:39.200 Let's see what, what happens when I mess with my chemistry a little bit.
01:37:41.760 But, um, is it, I remember hearing this, that, you know, some people who take a bad LSD batch
01:37:49.440 will like lose their mind or something.
01:37:51.160 That's what I want to get into next.
01:37:52.980 Yeah, exactly.
01:37:53.900 I've been hearing, Oh, I, everyone knows a friend or knows a person who knows a person
01:37:59.440 who's taken one hit of acid and gone insane.
01:38:02.080 And they were never the same again.
01:38:03.660 Right.
01:38:04.500 Yeah.
01:38:04.820 I guess, I guess there was even, um, what is it?
01:38:08.160 Sid Barrett from Pink Floyd.
01:38:10.160 The Pink Floyd.
01:38:10.980 Yeah.
01:38:11.200 That's a perfect example.
01:38:12.980 In their first album, uh, Piper's at the Gates of Dawn, I believe they had a different,
01:38:17.520 uh, lead singer and their songs were really trippy, really psychedelic.
01:38:21.480 And I kind of idealized this guy.
01:38:24.060 Oh, he was in their first album and then he just went totally insane after.
01:38:28.200 But, uh, I think it was a mix between, yeah, cool.
01:38:32.920 Like I, I thought the lore behind that was interesting.
01:38:36.240 Right.
01:38:37.220 But, um, I think it's a mixture between mental illness.
01:38:40.840 And this drug feeding into the mental, the ego of the mental illness that kind of gets
01:38:46.840 people to go insane.
01:38:48.540 Like you see all these acid casualties, right?
01:38:51.860 Like, yeah, that's, that's kind of why I'm cautious of LSD.
01:38:55.280 It's like, I don't want to get a bad batch or like, it's not just LSD either.
01:39:00.400 It's also, I've seen, I've seen it happen with marijuana as well.
01:39:04.100 People go off their rock.
01:39:05.580 Really?
01:39:05.980 Reefer madness is real.
01:39:08.520 Absolutely.
01:39:10.300 Yeah.
01:39:10.560 Cause what?
01:39:11.280 Cause it's like mixed with like mixed with bad LSD or?
01:39:14.940 People who have, uh, like say they have bipolar, it's magnified and then they just lose it.
01:39:20.340 They're gone forever.
01:39:21.200 Just think about people who say that they could sense your aura, right?
01:39:25.840 They have maybe, maybe it's something that helps them.
01:39:28.200 Like it's healthy enough that they could function in society, but they feel like they could read
01:39:33.100 your aura and your energy and stuff.
01:39:35.300 East coast, East coast Canadian in chat says, I'm the reefer madness guy.
01:39:39.740 Yeah.
01:39:40.140 I am the reefer man.
01:39:41.140 I lose my mind when I smoke weed.
01:39:42.840 I used to watch, uh, these kinds of things when I was young, when I found out that weed
01:39:47.600 is not going to kill you.
01:39:48.740 And then it just made, it seems that so much more ridiculous.
01:39:51.960 Anybody who tell you to stay away from it, when they show you propaganda like this,
01:39:56.000 like if I smoke weed, will I just start fucking playing the piano like a madman?
01:40:01.800 Like I'm going crazy.
01:40:05.400 Oh man.
01:40:06.640 You might.
01:40:10.680 Um, I, I have another interesting topic that we could maybe talk about.
01:40:15.700 It speaks to like the psyop and kind of, it has like a political angle to it.
01:40:22.120 Uh, you want me to bring it up?
01:40:24.520 Yeah.
01:40:24.900 Go for it.
01:40:26.420 So this is a meme I'm going to bring up.
01:40:28.780 I think you guys will be able to see it.
01:40:31.780 Can you guys see that?
01:40:35.400 Oh, it's backwards.
01:40:36.620 Is it flipped?
01:40:37.660 No, I can see it.
01:40:38.660 Yeah, I can see it.
01:40:39.720 Is it runway?
01:40:40.220 Okay.
01:40:40.840 So how I sleep at night knowing I'm a lazy piece of shit with no goals or plans for the
01:40:44.620 future.
01:40:44.880 So this is not like the meme I was looking for, but this is a type of humor that is online.
01:40:52.020 And it, I feel like it's the same flavor of like the, uh, hangover of this sort of like,
01:41:00.740 Hey, like we got fucked up.
01:41:02.300 And isn't that funny?
01:41:03.100 Like I, I bring this up because when I reflect upon my times in university and like, yeah,
01:41:10.640 we would, you know, get drunk and it would be, and we act like idiots and then we get
01:41:14.100 high at night.
01:41:14.700 And then my favorite part of this whole ritual would actually be the next morning when we
01:41:20.740 get like brunch together and then talk about how big of idiots we were.
01:41:24.600 And like, it's a certain flavor of humor where like the funny part is that we're like wasted
01:41:31.200 idiots, like wasting our time and money acting like retards, you know, like, and like there
01:41:36.820 is humor in that, just like there's humor in the movie, the hangover, but it's also kind
01:41:41.840 of like this.
01:41:42.560 It's kind of like this sad where it's like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
01:41:46.840 Yeah.
01:41:47.100 That's yeah.
01:41:48.420 That's really funny.
01:41:50.100 You know, you guys, does this make any sense?
01:41:53.220 You know?
01:41:53.500 Yeah, it does.
01:41:54.280 You know, what's funny is a while back, I wish I could find this video, but the way you
01:41:58.480 enjoy the decline on telegram, uh, organize their stuff.
01:42:03.040 You can never find anything because they don't actually have anyways, it would take forever
01:42:06.840 to find it, but it was a great video.
01:42:08.640 I mean, it was, it was a sad video.
01:42:10.280 I thought it was going to be one of these like uplifting ones.
01:42:12.820 And then it just like nose dive.
01:42:14.200 Then it was this guy.
01:42:15.080 And he's like, here's me at 19 getting blackout drunk, eating street food.
01:42:19.880 And it's just like him, like with a fucking gyro or a euro or like a falafel or something.
01:42:26.120 And he's just like, and he's like falling over and like bumping into shit and his buddy's
01:42:31.360 filming him.
01:42:31.880 And he's just like laughing, like retardedly and just like, you know, shoving this into
01:42:35.760 his face.
01:42:36.760 And then it's like, uh, you think it's going to be this moment where it's like, cause he
01:42:41.260 said, it starts with, this is me 10 years ago.
01:42:43.220 And it's like, you think it's going to be like, Oh, here's where I am now.
01:42:46.280 Right.
01:42:46.640 And it's like, no, here's me.
01:42:48.960 Here's me last night.
01:42:50.320 And he's, he's fucking doing the exact same thing.
01:42:53.560 The exact fucking same thing that he was doing 10 years ago.
01:42:56.820 You could tell he's older.
01:42:58.000 He started going bald.
01:42:59.260 He's drunk as fuck eating, eating a fucking sandwich in the middle of the street, falling
01:43:04.020 over.
01:43:05.120 And it's just like, yeah, man, that's the.
01:43:08.880 Yeah.
01:43:09.380 It's funny, but it's also like, this is really fucking sad though.
01:43:13.540 Yeah.
01:43:14.020 You know, like there's something that's also really, really sad about this.
01:43:17.700 Um, and yeah, I kind of had that revelation.
01:43:20.260 Cause I remember thinking, yeah, but like, I don't, I miss going out and getting drunk,
01:43:24.460 like all those good times.
01:43:26.200 And then I'd like, think about it and it's like, yeah, that was funny, but like, it's
01:43:29.320 also kind of sad.
01:43:30.400 Like that whole, that whole like genre of humor is kind of like fucking sad in a way.
01:43:34.680 Um, and I guess there's like, yeah, go ahead.
01:43:37.400 Were you here earlier when we brought this up?
01:43:39.380 Cause edgy was kind of talking about how, you know, trailer park boys made it seem kind of
01:43:43.160 like funny to be fucked up.
01:43:44.760 And I heard a bit of it.
01:43:45.900 I heard a bit of it.
01:43:46.860 And it's like, no, no, actually like, if you really look at what they're pointing out,
01:43:50.480 it's like, this is sad.
01:43:51.560 Like, this is like, Jeremy said this before.
01:43:53.580 This is only like a, maybe a 20, 25% deviation from what a lot of people, how a lot of people
01:43:59.640 live in, in Canada.
01:44:01.440 Like he said, this is a 12% exaggeration of what it's like.
01:44:04.500 Yeah.
01:44:04.720 Yeah.
01:44:05.020 And so it's like, it's funny, but the, also the idea of it is like, this is actually like
01:44:10.620 reality for a lot of people, man.
01:44:12.840 Like it's sad.
01:44:14.500 Um, Randy's gut is actually that big, right?
01:44:19.180 I've seen it in person and, uh, Leahy before he died, uh, like he wasn't drinking because
01:44:25.440 he was going to die if he kept drinking more and then he did die anyways.
01:44:29.220 Mm-hmm.
01:44:30.420 Yeah.
01:44:30.900 And I think that the, the kind of crown jewel when it comes to Hollywood movies would probably
01:44:35.540 be something like hangover where it's like, Whoa, it's such a crazy night, bro.
01:44:41.140 And it's like, sometimes when people black out in Vegas, they die.
01:44:46.280 You know what I mean?
01:44:46.720 Like it's, you know, like it's, uh, it's not always like, Oh, you get to meet Mike Tyson
01:44:51.180 and you get to like, you know, piss and like his tigers there in your hotel room.
01:44:55.440 You know, like that's weird fucking fantasy where you all blackout drunk.
01:44:59.800 And like, you have just such a grand, crazy time and it's just so much fun.
01:45:04.660 And it's like, that's such a good point.
01:45:07.400 The hangover nor like romanticizing being blackout drunk.
01:45:12.500 And yeah, yeah, I feel that one.
01:45:14.960 Yeah.
01:45:15.340 That's something I realized too.
01:45:16.940 That's another kind of like mental trick that I realized when I was getting clean, which
01:45:20.320 is like, you know, what is 100 times better than going out and partying with your friends
01:45:28.100 and just having a crazy night on the town?
01:45:29.960 You know, it's a hundred million times better than that.
01:45:34.580 The idea of doing that, right?
01:45:39.520 Like the idea of going out on the town.
01:45:42.700 Yeah, it could be so cool.
01:45:43.900 It could be like the hangover, like the anticipation is this amazing movie that is like, wow, I can't
01:45:50.980 wait to like have a great time.
01:45:52.280 Then the actual thing, if you zoom in on the actual thing, boy, is it fucking depressing
01:45:57.520 and sad?
01:45:58.480 You're waiting in line to spend more money at the bar to fucking, you know, like, you
01:46:02.620 know, stand with your boys in a corner, like fucking looking for the pussy or whatever.
01:46:06.080 Like it's, it's really fun.
01:46:07.420 And then you go home and smoke weed and it's just like, oh, I ate all this fucking food.
01:46:11.360 Pissed myself.
01:46:12.020 You know, it's fucking like, whoa, so epic.
01:46:15.060 And it was like, no, it wasn't.
01:46:17.280 It was not that epic.
01:46:18.500 Like occasionally, like one night out of 20, like maybe something interesting and fun will
01:46:22.260 happen, but like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fucking, oh man, if you're honest
01:46:27.960 with yourself, bruh, maybe that's just me, right?
01:46:32.720 That's just my like sad university experience.
01:46:35.580 Maybe I'm like oversharing right now, but.
01:46:38.280 They could agree.
01:46:39.000 They could agree.
01:46:39.800 That's pretty accurate.
01:46:40.640 I think really.
01:46:42.200 It took me a while to figure out just what it meant to get blackout drunk, like, and what
01:46:50.740 I was actually doing.
01:46:52.060 Like, I think, I feel like I was in denial in my early, uh, my late high school and early
01:46:57.700 university years.
01:46:59.340 Like I would hear about something I did the night before that I didn't remember.
01:47:03.840 And I would think, oh, that was maybe like 10, 20 minutes that I, that I lost memory when
01:47:09.460 really like it, it was like two hours or so.
01:47:13.520 Like, that's pretty scary to know that you could just not know what you were doing and
01:47:18.120 you were completely belligerent acting crazy.
01:47:21.700 Like that is no way to function in society.
01:47:24.100 And only in this society now where we have an extended adolescence with university where
01:47:30.480 it's like adult daycare in some ways, can you get away with that?
01:47:34.460 And then reality comes and hits you as like, as you go into the real world and realize
01:47:39.440 you can't do things like that.
01:47:41.860 Edgy, you have to check your donations.
01:47:44.020 I was just told in the chat.
01:47:45.540 Okay.
01:47:48.060 That was getting real there.
01:47:49.560 All right.
01:47:49.940 Super chat time.
01:47:51.500 Uh, pardons.
01:47:53.400 Um, okay.
01:47:54.360 This one here, uh, Ram three says I've smoked weed.
01:47:57.300 Like people breathe air since grade seven.
01:47:59.540 I'm not going to lie and say I dropped it in the day.
01:48:02.380 It's taking a lot to not load a bowl.
01:48:04.540 And just the habit of it is difficult to, to drop, not including the mental stuff.
01:48:10.640 Very true.
01:48:11.500 Very true.
01:48:12.200 Well, good on you for, uh, trying that.
01:48:15.100 That's the first step.
01:48:15.820 Right.
01:48:16.120 And he also says PS edgy.
01:48:18.100 It's called a yacht.
01:48:19.300 You boomer.
01:48:19.780 So I'm thinking he's talking about the, the popper bottles.
01:48:23.260 That's what we called it.
01:48:24.400 When you, uh, stick the piece into the fucking, uh, water bottle and you smoke weed.
01:48:29.960 That's called a, I've never heard that.
01:48:32.460 That's funny.
01:48:33.780 Interesting.
01:48:34.400 I guess we're boomers guys.
01:48:36.100 Confirmed.
01:48:37.120 See, but this is, this is actually funny.
01:48:38.800 This is a very recurring, uh, thing that I've seen a lot in that vice group.
01:48:44.580 It's probably the most common one is, is weed and people saying how hard it is.
01:48:48.840 And like, this is kind of the, like, whenever I was going off on the drinking and dope culture,
01:48:53.100 like, this is a lot of the people that were responding to me is like, yeah, I do it.
01:48:56.820 But like, I, like, I I'm totally functional, man.
01:48:59.300 Like I can go to work.
01:49:00.420 Like I, I I'm never late.
01:49:01.840 I always get my shit done.
01:49:03.300 Like I'm not a slob.
01:49:04.420 Like it's like, yeah.
01:49:05.820 Okay.
01:49:06.180 Can you quit?
01:49:07.460 Can you quit?
01:49:08.500 Have you ever tried to quit?
01:49:10.340 Can you quit?
01:49:10.940 And if you're like that, imagine not smoking weed, like imagine how much better you would
01:49:16.480 be not smoking weed.
01:49:17.760 It's just immediately like the people's reaction to that is like, oh, like they haven't even
01:49:23.100 considered trying to quit it because they've been doing it for so long that, and they're
01:49:26.900 functional.
01:49:27.600 Like, I'm not saying they're not, they are, but it's like, can you, can you quit if you
01:49:32.000 had to, could you do it?
01:49:33.480 And a lot of people are like finding out, I think, especially in the past two days that
01:49:38.060 it's not that fucking easy to just quit.
01:49:40.380 And, and then all the, there was a couple of people that like, I won't say names, but
01:49:44.840 like they straight up admit it's like, yeah, I thought this was like a habit that I could
01:49:48.220 just stop whenever I want to.
01:49:49.520 It's like, no, this is an addiction.
01:49:51.160 Like I'm having physical withdrawals and like they don't smoke cigarettes.
01:49:55.360 They don't, it's not like they're doing anything else.
01:49:57.320 Just weed.
01:49:59.260 I'm having trouble just not smoking weed for a day.
01:50:02.920 Like I'm having physical withdrawals from not smoking weed for a day.
01:50:06.460 Like that's wild.
01:50:09.080 So I guess it hits each individual person differently.
01:50:12.820 And you got to remember like physical addiction and mental addiction, physical and mental are,
01:50:18.040 uh, they're part of the same unit, right?
01:50:21.180 Yeah.
01:50:22.160 Yeah.
01:50:22.600 It's, it's, um, I don't know.
01:50:25.200 I'm, I have my own kind of theory on all this, but, but I, I really do think that there
01:50:29.900 is, you know, an analogy is like, there's a devil on your shoulder.
01:50:33.920 There's an angel on your shoulder, uh, maybe, or another version would be like, there's,
01:50:38.360 there's the conscious you that wants to do good.
01:50:40.100 And then there's like the addict you that just wants to like self-destruct and just like
01:50:43.260 have fun or whatever.
01:50:44.740 Um, and I, and I feel like, especially when you're thinking about quitting something,
01:50:50.540 uh, it's almost like schizophrenic.
01:50:53.420 Like, like there's part of you that's going to be like, oh, I want to quit this.
01:50:57.640 And like, I can quit this and I'm going to quit this.
01:50:59.300 But the other part of you is like, no, like, I'm going to find any excuse to, to use again
01:51:03.420 or to get high again.
01:51:04.780 And it's totally fine.
01:51:05.960 And I have no problem whatsoever.
01:51:07.940 And it's like, if you're having this struggle, then that's a sign, you know, like, cause,
01:51:15.360 cause if you were a totally functional stoner and everything was cool, then you probably
01:51:20.500 wouldn't your casual use of marijuana, but it's like, there's a, there's a reason why
01:51:25.700 you're actually looking at this.
01:51:27.100 And it's probably because you're like, maybe I could reach more of a potential.
01:51:30.360 Maybe I could do more of this.
01:51:31.360 Maybe I could do more of that.
01:51:32.960 And there's something admirable about that, right?
01:51:35.600 Like that is you wanting to improve your situation.
01:51:38.760 Like that is, that is a, that is a good thing.
01:51:41.000 And I, again, like I said it earlier, like, you know, it's easier said than done, but the,
01:51:47.040 the, the little addict piece of shit inside of you want that wants you to
01:51:50.340 self-destruct, it's very good at, uh, persuading you in various different ways.
01:51:55.960 And one way is to be like, you suck, you're a piece of shit.
01:51:58.560 You should just get high anyway.
01:51:59.600 Like, you know, you're never going to do this.
01:52:01.000 You're a failure, blah, blah, blah.
01:52:01.960 Like that.
01:52:02.680 It's really good at like spinning that narrative to, to like push you over the edge, to get
01:52:06.300 you to, uh, to get high again.
01:52:08.860 But, um, but yeah, like, like, look at the positives, you know, look at the positives
01:52:14.120 that, that, that, like someone told me this, and I think it's kind of inspiring,
01:52:18.720 which is even if you're thinking about quitting or stopping or taking a break, even just thinking
01:52:28.820 about that is a step in the right direction.
01:52:32.480 Even though you haven't done anything yet, it's still like a sign that, okay, I want to
01:52:37.460 possibly change my situation.
01:52:38.820 I want to possibly take a step in the right direction.
01:52:40.960 So, you know, maybe this sounds a little bit too, like, let's all hold hands, but it's
01:52:46.220 like, you should try to congratulate yourself for even having thoughts like that.
01:52:50.080 And even thinking about things like that, because it's, um, you know, it's a sign that
01:52:54.980 you, yeah, you love yourself and that you, you want to try to, you know, improve, improve
01:52:59.320 your situation.
01:53:00.260 And, and it's not other people saying it, right.
01:53:02.200 That this is coming from yourself, right.
01:53:04.100 This is stuff coming from yourself.
01:53:05.300 I'm like, Hey, this is a sign.
01:53:06.420 I want, I want to try to change things for the better.
01:53:09.640 Um, but yeah, it's a, it's, it's not going to be easy, but it gets better.
01:53:16.320 So, yeah.
01:53:17.800 You brushed your hair this morning.
01:53:19.920 That's a win, right?
01:53:21.200 That reminds me of, uh, yeah, I'm done for the day.
01:53:24.020 Yeah.
01:53:24.120 I've done enough.
01:53:24.660 Yeah.
01:53:25.380 Yeah.
01:53:25.820 It's true.
01:53:26.240 It can go too far.
01:53:26.820 Some people are so deep in like their shit that like they'll make posts on social media.
01:53:32.580 Like I brushed my hair today and that was good enough.
01:53:36.040 Now I, I feel bad for anyone that's that, that, that damn bad, but, um, I, there is
01:53:44.580 something definitely, that's certainly fucked up if you're posting on social media about
01:53:48.240 that, if you're doing that.
01:53:49.120 Right.
01:53:49.340 I think there might be something else wrong there.
01:53:51.940 Uh, you know, that sounds like a cry for help to me.
01:53:54.660 If you're posting that on social media, right.
01:53:57.320 But, but I get what you're saying, Greg, like you need to not beat yourself up while also
01:54:02.540 still having discipline.
01:54:03.600 It's a, it's a difficult balance to have.
01:54:05.580 Right.
01:54:06.040 Because if you just increase like self-hatred over messing up or, you know, not going as
01:54:13.100 far as you wanted to with it, then that, that's not going to help really.
01:54:18.320 Right.
01:54:20.280 Well, we've got another super chat here.
01:54:22.340 Uh, donkey dong along saying pardons for being late.
01:54:25.920 Hi, Lee, fairy, Greg edgy.
01:54:27.680 Just got to run in five K in 30, 30 minutes and 50 seconds.
01:54:33.240 Wow.
01:54:34.020 Nice.
01:54:34.720 Great job.
01:54:35.160 Oh, Moratoria may is here.
01:54:37.600 Let's fucking go almost two days.
01:54:40.040 No smoking buds.
01:54:42.100 Nice.
01:54:42.680 Oh, we didn't, we didn't go around the whole, uh, the whole circle here in terms of what,
01:54:46.720 what we're giving up for Moratoria.
01:54:48.220 Okay.
01:54:48.400 Here, let me just finish this, uh, super chat and then it'll be good to get into that,
01:54:52.560 but it's probably not a good thing because it just means my distaste will become more
01:54:57.660 focused.
01:54:58.320 Oh, that is a good thing, man.
01:55:01.080 And he throws up some slashes.
01:55:02.700 Death to sell and fuck you.
01:55:03.940 Make me.
01:55:04.320 Thanks donkey.
01:55:05.960 Glad to hear that.
01:55:07.000 You're taking this seriously and you're getting motivated and inspired by this.
01:55:10.520 Here, let me just run through the rest of these chats.
01:55:14.180 Uncle Kenny given $3 saying everyone do shrooms live in the audience also.
01:55:19.340 Yeah.
01:55:19.720 I don't know.
01:55:20.220 I'm not the kind of guy that likes to do shrooms around many people or in these situation,
01:55:25.080 social situations.
01:55:26.500 I like it as like, uh, like what fairy was saying, take the huge amount and, you know,
01:55:32.680 go deep.
01:55:33.100 Although I can do it, you know, actually, uh, a couple of years ago when I was with Derek
01:55:39.020 and, uh, our old friend Tom was having a meltdown.
01:55:44.380 We were on shrooms that whole time and experiencing like the fall crazy fallout of our former friend,
01:55:50.320 uh, in a very distressing situation and I got through it while high on shrooms and that was
01:55:57.920 an interesting experience.
01:55:59.900 So, uh, doing shrooms while live streaming.
01:56:05.640 Yeah.
01:56:07.500 I don't know if that would go over well.
01:56:09.920 So Ram three says I did a seven grams and tried watching the rage cast.
01:56:14.520 He ended up talking about demonic books named Thomas and haunted execution rooms.
01:56:21.460 People found in Iraq.
01:56:23.240 It was whack.
01:56:25.500 Yeah.
01:56:26.200 I can only imagine, man.
01:56:30.860 Yeah.
01:56:31.500 Uh, I don't think psychedelics and live streaming, uh, really go great together.
01:56:35.720 I don't even think alcohol and live streaming go well together.
01:56:40.000 True.
01:56:41.020 True.
01:56:42.420 Uh, well, yeah.
01:56:43.900 Well, uh, you were saying we should go around with the rest of the people and what they're
01:56:47.100 giving up.
01:56:47.820 So yeah, we eat an alcohol for me.
01:56:50.880 Uh, what are you, what about you, Greg?
01:56:55.140 Uh, for me, it is no phone after midnight and keep the phone out of my room where I sleep.
01:57:02.720 Ooh, that's a good one.
01:57:04.020 I was in a good habit of that like last year and I need to get back into it.
01:57:09.240 It's been good.
01:57:09.980 It's only been a couple of days, but it's, it's been, uh, positive.
01:57:13.900 Um, that is a really good one.
01:57:17.140 I feel like your sleep schedule will thank you for it.
01:57:21.900 Yep.
01:57:24.120 And your attention span, the dope, the dopamine detox that you'll be having, your mind will,
01:57:29.700 uh, be at ease instead of being, you know, consumed by whatever you're looking at on your
01:57:34.600 phone while you're trying to go to sleep.
01:57:35.940 Um, yeah.
01:57:37.660 And it's just, uh, yeah, I don't know.
01:57:41.100 It's like starting my day with the phone right away is like not the best way to start the
01:57:47.560 day.
01:57:48.440 And also it's, it's, it's nicer to give my mind some time away from, from my phone leading
01:57:56.960 up to sleep as well.
01:57:58.860 So yeah.
01:58:02.280 Yeah.
01:58:02.680 Your phone is definitely a hindrance.
01:58:03.700 I'm going to check my phone one second.
01:58:04.840 I'm going to check my phone.
01:58:06.360 There he goes.
01:58:07.340 Yeah.
01:58:07.580 How is that?
01:58:08.320 Like, like, do you notice that your phone, if you don't look at it for a long time, it
01:58:12.360 will create notifications so that you look at it.
01:58:15.660 Like if the screen's like lighting up.
01:58:17.680 I turn all my shit off.
01:58:19.200 I have like all my notifications off.
01:58:21.240 If you know me, I'm not texting you back.
01:58:22.960 That is why I've turned them like all they're all off.
01:58:25.380 So when you're not looking at your phone now for moratorium may, you've shut your phone
01:58:29.160 right off.
01:58:30.540 No, I've, I've, for a while I've had like all the notifications off and then like, I'll
01:58:34.500 just like check them.
01:58:35.300 I'll check each like app when I, when I have time to do it, but.
01:58:38.620 Cause I've heard of this thing where people are trying to quit looking at their phones,
01:58:42.040 but they'll feel like phantom vibrations, like as if their phone's going off, but it's
01:58:46.940 actually not.
01:58:47.880 Have you heard about this?
01:58:49.420 I've, I've experienced this.
01:58:51.040 Yeah.
01:58:51.180 Oh yeah.
01:58:52.960 Oh yeah.
01:58:53.920 Oh, is that my leg vibrating?
01:58:57.140 No, you don't use vibrate.
01:58:59.360 So what are you feeling?
01:59:00.840 Oh, it's just my body.
01:59:01.740 It's just my body creating some sort of sensation in my brain that I'm getting a notification
01:59:05.600 on my phone.
01:59:06.300 Totally, totally normal human behavior.
01:59:08.840 Totally, totally normal 21st century, just a 21st century human thing where you feel your
01:59:14.980 leg vibrating for no reason because you're chronically looking at your phone.
01:59:20.700 Yeah.
01:59:21.140 I've experienced it.
01:59:22.100 It's weird.
01:59:23.320 Yeah.
01:59:23.600 I've experienced it.
01:59:24.220 It's perfect with my eye like this.
01:59:25.720 Yeah.
01:59:26.060 I feel it.
01:59:27.040 I feel it with my, uh, I feel my leg vibrating.
01:59:30.100 You might be vibrating.
01:59:31.180 Cause I think I'm getting a text message and it's just, I don't have vibrate on.
01:59:34.380 So it, uh, just might like vibrating for some reason or like, it's like a phantom thing,
01:59:38.480 you know, like, is it even a real sensation?
01:59:40.260 I don't know.
01:59:40.900 That was a very good Milton impression there from Office Space.
01:59:45.020 Hmm.
01:59:46.100 Where's my stapler?
01:59:47.080 Where's my stapler?
01:59:47.920 I see, I see, I see the, the squirrels are tied and they're married.
01:59:52.260 Um, uh, Mika Shrednick on entropy.
01:59:58.700 Thank you for the super chat.
02:00:00.340 Appreciate it.
02:00:00.940 It says proof that our society is screwed up is right in front of us.
02:00:04.220 We're all half experts on addictions.
02:00:07.040 Cheers.
02:00:07.380 Bigots.
02:00:08.560 Very true.
02:00:09.580 Very true.
02:00:11.140 Look, I think it's impossible to not get addicted to things in this modern society, even if it's
02:00:16.600 your phone or social media to some extent, right?
02:00:20.320 Well, yeah, of course.
02:00:22.540 And also literally live in Babylon.
02:00:24.580 We're being absolutely bombarded by sin.
02:00:28.960 We're surrounded by sin.
02:00:30.260 Constantly.
02:00:30.660 We're surrounded by anything that's going to addict you to whatever it is.
02:00:34.600 There's everything around us that is meant to on purpose tempt us to engage in sin or I'm
02:00:42.820 going to get biblical here, but let's go.
02:00:46.000 Um, but yeah, like we're surrounded.
02:00:48.420 This is Babylon.
02:00:49.340 Of course.
02:00:49.820 That's what they, they want us to be addicted and docile and just disgusting.
02:00:58.300 Yeah.
02:00:58.780 And, and, and think, imagine you're, as I mean, especially in Toronto, but imagine you
02:01:03.200 get a room full of like a hundred different people and you share something with all of
02:01:07.320 them and you're like, Hey, you know, I casually drink, I smoke weed every day.
02:01:12.560 And that's kind of what I do.
02:01:13.820 And people are like, okay, cool.
02:01:15.200 You're like a normal person.
02:01:16.480 But if you go out there and you're like, Oh yeah, I'm a Christian.
02:01:18.800 Like, I don't do any of that.
02:01:20.020 I don't like do any of this stuff.
02:01:21.700 They'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with this person?
02:01:25.480 What the fuck?
02:01:26.980 That's fucked up, dude.
02:01:28.860 I think you hit, I was kind of talking about this last night on the, um, on the after party.
02:01:33.680 And it's like this inversion of morality that is, that goes on.
02:01:37.320 It's exactly that exactly what you just described.
02:01:39.460 The idea of being a, uh, you know, a sober, like just to like, let's take, for example,
02:01:45.200 a, like, uh, a Mormon, right.
02:01:48.300 And maybe that's not a great one.
02:01:49.460 Cause they're kind of kooky, but it's like, they're sober, like family oriented, community
02:01:54.340 oriented, church oriented people.
02:01:56.580 And if you've ever met one in person, you'll, you'll be like, this person's fucking weird.
02:02:01.400 When in reality, it's just like, no, they're just actually a super well-adjusted, very sociable,
02:02:06.760 nice person.
02:02:07.920 And that is weird to you because you're used to dealing with assholes that are on drugs
02:02:12.840 and fucked up all the time.
02:02:14.580 Like, so it seems weird to you.
02:02:16.280 Like there's this absolute inversion that's gone on.
02:02:18.560 And it's like that part, part of why I started going off about the drinking and dope is because
02:02:22.720 like, for fuck's sakes, we all know that they want you to do that.
02:02:26.600 Does anybody, does anybody not think that at this point, do they care?
02:02:30.780 Do they care if you're drunk and high playing video games and, you know, watching sports ball
02:02:36.360 the time, jerking off the porn constantly, like, you know, just engaging in every degenerate
02:02:40.460 behavior, do they care?
02:02:41.760 No, they don't.
02:02:42.980 In fact, I would say the extent to which they care is, is that you become unproductive and,
02:02:49.000 you know, not a contributor to fucking GDP.
02:02:51.700 If you're not a milk producing GDP cattle, then you get, you know, that's a problem.
02:02:56.960 I put out, I put out that George Carlin quote earlier and it's like, they just want you
02:03:01.280 smart enough to be able to operate a machine and nothing else.
02:03:05.000 That's it.
02:03:05.620 They don't want you realizing like what's going on or anything like that.
02:03:09.300 They just want you at a certain level where you can operate a machine and that's it.
02:03:13.160 And so like, it's, it's odd to me that when you have this group of people that knows exactly,
02:03:18.200 like everybody here knows this, right.
02:03:20.600 Or, or, or at least, you know, if you've been around for any length of time, you would understand
02:03:26.140 that.
02:03:28.680 Sorry, I just read Kaboobel's comment.
02:03:30.660 It's funny.
02:03:31.040 I like contributing to GDP so we can Slava together.
02:03:34.760 Yeah, exactly.
02:03:35.840 You got to make that money for fucking Ukraine, man.
02:03:38.480 So they can embezzle it.
02:03:39.800 Like that's, that's what they want.
02:03:41.200 They want to obedient workers.
02:03:42.760 The George Carlin thing is, is perfect.
02:03:44.780 But it, where I was going with that is like, we all know this.
02:03:47.860 And so it's, it's odd to me that you have all these people who understand this and yet
02:03:52.340 they're still getting drunk and high all the time.
02:03:54.640 They're not focusing on getting healthy.
02:03:57.400 They're not, it's like, you know, they understand these things that they don't care if you're
02:04:03.000 drunk and high all the time, but it's difficult to translate that from like, okay, well, that's
02:04:08.760 also the thing that numbs you to the fact that they want you drunk and high all the time.
02:04:13.460 If that makes sense.
02:04:14.600 It's like, these are the ways that like you, okay, the world is fucked up.
02:04:19.240 Everything is, is so out of control.
02:04:21.440 So you know what?
02:04:22.240 I'm just going to, you know, get drunk and high because that's the easy or, you know,
02:04:25.640 I'm going to escape with video games or sports ball or, or any of these things so that I can
02:04:29.900 forget how fucked up everything is.
02:04:31.680 And my point is no, stop running away.
02:04:36.320 Stop hiding from how shitty things are.
02:04:39.580 And, you know, I thought it was funny that there was a bunch of people in the comments
02:04:43.660 in, in the vice page that were like, man, watching rage cast without something to take
02:04:48.640 the edge off is heavy.
02:04:49.880 It's like, yeah.
02:04:51.060 Well, welcome to my world.
02:04:52.800 Yeah.
02:04:54.280 Hello.
02:04:55.480 Yeah.
02:04:55.900 Like it's fucking bad, man.
02:04:57.380 And so like, yes, it's good.
02:04:59.780 It's good that you're aware that you understand.
02:05:01.980 And yes, it's okay to blow off steam and, and zone out, you know, like you were saying,
02:05:06.740 Greg, last night, like you need that kind of escapism to a degree, but if you're engaging
02:05:11.960 in it constantly, that's where it becomes a problem.
02:05:14.520 And I don't know, I was noticing a lot of people were engaging in it constantly.
02:05:18.400 And even like, I thought almost funnier than the drugs and alcohol one is the sports ball
02:05:24.460 one.
02:05:25.440 Um, actually have a list of your, uh, sports ball posts here.
02:05:30.980 So go for it.
02:05:32.100 Carry on.
02:05:32.580 I'll, I'll pop them up while you're talking.
02:05:34.620 Well, where I was going with that is like, I think the biggest of, of all the vices that
02:05:39.920 I've kind of like, you know, leveled my gun at and started shooting at recently.
02:05:44.680 Um, one of the ones that got the biggest pushback was sports ball.
02:05:49.780 And it's like, it's hilarious to me.
02:05:51.940 Cause this is like a hard rule.
02:05:54.300 It's, it's crazy how, how, if you go and you, uh, if you, if you post something that's
02:06:03.200 anti-sports ball on Twitter, you're going to get people that come in and they shit talk
02:06:07.360 you for it.
02:06:07.820 And then like, they have like, you know, there's like four or five like generic responses that
02:06:12.420 you're going to get from these people.
02:06:13.700 And if you click on their profiles, every single fucking one is like somebody that's
02:06:20.200 90% posting about sports ball.
02:06:22.400 They're obsessed with hockey.
02:06:23.980 They're obsessed.
02:06:24.920 It's like, it's worse than the drugs.
02:06:27.640 People take it more personally than the drugs because they don't view it as a vice.
02:06:31.440 They view it as something that's, that's positive.
02:06:34.220 And it's like, man, how is it positive that you spend, you know, your, your entire life
02:06:38.300 that you're the vast majority of your focus is on this fucking game for 20 year olds.
02:06:43.180 It's 20 year old millionaires and you're jerking off to their statistics.
02:06:48.880 Like that makes you some kind of man.
02:06:51.100 It doesn't man.
02:06:52.260 It makes you a faggot.
02:06:53.220 Yeah, it's, uh, it makes me think of the whole, I don't know if anyone's done this skit before
02:07:00.920 maybe, but it's like, oh man, uh, Eric isn't here drinking a beer with us and watching the
02:07:08.240 game.
02:07:08.580 Like, is he okay?
02:07:09.460 Like the ritual of sports ball and like the idolatry of these, of these like amazing, uh,
02:07:16.060 players and like, oh my God, like they're, they're so talented and it, it really is kind
02:07:21.200 of like, oh, who is this heretic?
02:07:22.640 Who is this heretic?
02:07:23.640 Who's criticizing our, our lifestyle of just, you know, boozing three hours, three hours
02:07:28.800 a night watching this game.
02:07:30.240 Um, and it's like, I, I bet you could make the comparison of like, you know, would you
02:07:35.440 get more flack for, you know, shitting on Christians saying something about Christians
02:07:41.120 and how they're fucked up or criticizing sports ball.
02:07:44.420 It's like, you'll probably get more of a more, uh, backlash for criticizing sports ball
02:07:48.180 because it's seen as this much more like, you know, culturally significant thing in Canada
02:07:52.640 right now, as opposed to Christianity.
02:07:55.100 Let me throw out a hypothetical here.
02:07:57.720 I kind of put the, I posted this on Twitter earlier, but let's just play through this hypothetical.
02:08:03.340 If they banned sports, like, you know, I know, I know this is ridiculous.
02:08:07.200 They would never do it, but like, let's just say hypothetically, all major league sports
02:08:10.900 are banned.
02:08:12.240 There's, there's no, there's, there's no broadcast.
02:08:14.960 There's no games.
02:08:15.720 There's nothing.
02:08:16.700 The NBA, the MLB, the NHL, the NFL, MLS, English premier league, every top sports league
02:08:23.600 in every sport is now banned.
02:08:25.980 They don't exist.
02:08:28.420 Think, think about the reaction that you would get from men in this country.
02:08:32.580 That that's, that would be out of control.
02:08:35.580 That would make them go, this government is fucking crazy.
02:08:39.880 They need to be stopped.
02:08:41.900 Something needs to be done about this fucking, they're trying to ban sports.
02:08:46.200 No, man, they're not trying to do that.
02:08:48.340 They're just trying to control what you can and can't see on the internet.
02:08:50.700 They're trying to tell you what you have to put in your body.
02:08:53.920 And they're telling you, they're telling you whether or not you're allowed to go to
02:08:57.320 work or not.
02:08:58.200 They're telling you whether or not you're allowed to go to certain businesses.
02:09:02.460 They're, they're telling you that they're going to take your, your, your legal property
02:09:05.800 that you purchased, your firearms.
02:09:08.120 They're telling you that they're going to control every aspect of your life, but God forbid
02:09:12.940 they touch your fucking sports ball.
02:09:15.360 That's the line for so many of you.
02:09:17.620 Well, but the thing is, is they did all that and they, and it started by banning sports
02:09:22.620 and they said, we're going to do all this to you, but there's a deadly virus though.
02:09:27.400 So it's all good.
02:09:29.080 Because they didn't cancel to be safe.
02:09:30.520 Yeah.
02:09:30.740 The canceling sports ironically, or coincidentally was the thing that woke people up to, Oh,
02:09:36.680 I guess, I guess that virus thing is significant because they canceled the NBA, you know,
02:09:40.200 NHL games.
02:09:40.700 No one gave a shit.
02:09:42.300 No one gave a shit about COVID at all.
02:09:45.740 Yeah.
02:09:45.860 There's like all this, all this like alarming shit online where it's like, yo, uh, what's
02:09:49.940 happening in China?
02:09:51.240 What's happening in Italy?
02:09:52.280 What's happening?
02:09:52.860 Oh, the NBA banned a game.
02:09:55.260 The NHL has banned the game.
02:09:56.420 And everyone's like, Whoa, we're shutting down society.
02:09:58.260 Now.
02:09:59.160 It was funny how sports ball was like the thing that actually woke people up to, Oh, I guess
02:10:03.660 we should do something about this now.
02:10:05.340 So here's one close up 99 has a good comment here and I'm going to tear it apart, but it
02:10:11.080 is a good point.
02:10:12.020 Okay.
02:10:12.200 And this was brought up to me a couple of times.
02:10:14.080 They already banned sports during lockdown.
02:10:16.640 No, no, they didn't.
02:10:18.360 Here's what they did.
02:10:19.520 They temporary, temporarily suspended sports.
02:10:23.280 And you know what, you know what I find very ironic about that comment is that that
02:10:27.960 was what one thing that made people take it very seriously.
02:10:32.980 You know, they took our sports away.
02:10:35.340 Well, we better mask up until we get our good sports ball back.
02:10:38.780 The first, the first indication I got that there might be lockdowns in my personal life.
02:10:45.320 Right.
02:10:45.540 I like, I don't know if there was rumblings about it before, because I wasn't really
02:10:48.140 paying attention because I thought it was fucking nonsense and it was, but, uh, the first
02:10:53.100 indication I got that there was going to be some form of lockdown was my army sergeant
02:10:58.000 sent me an email and he was like, yeah, so we're canceling basic training.
02:11:02.900 Uh, it looks like we're shutting down all non-essential operations until further notice.
02:11:08.060 And I was just like, really, they're taking it that seriously.
02:11:11.260 And this is how he responded.
02:11:12.880 Yeah, man.
02:11:13.560 Didn't you hear?
02:11:14.460 They just shut down the NBA season.
02:11:16.360 They canceled the rest of the NBA season.
02:11:18.200 That was the first thing they did.
02:11:19.740 That was the first thing they did.
02:11:21.280 And what did that do?
02:11:22.460 It made people take it seriously.
02:11:24.320 Holy fuck.
02:11:24.960 They canceled sports.
02:11:26.020 This must be serious.
02:11:27.720 If, if we can't have NHL playoffs, my God, this must be something that we need to pay
02:11:32.940 attention to.
02:11:33.920 So it was like, uh, you might think that that was like an indicate, well, they canceled
02:11:37.880 sports and nothing happened.
02:11:39.120 No, no, no, no, no, no.
02:11:39.960 They canceled sports long enough to make people take it seriously and to be afraid.
02:11:45.240 And then as soon as it got to a point where people were starting to reach their limit,
02:11:49.200 what did they do?
02:11:49.760 They brought back fucking sports ball some summer of 2020.
02:11:53.880 They brought it back.
02:11:55.160 Baseball started again by, by September.
02:11:57.900 The seasons were back on.
02:11:59.860 Everything's fine.
02:12:00.880 We're all vaccinated.
02:12:02.480 We're back in.
02:12:04.200 Yep.
02:12:04.620 So true, man.
02:12:05.700 Oh man.
02:12:06.560 Oh, whoa.
02:12:07.040 They banned the sports ball.
02:12:08.960 Oh my God.
02:12:11.760 This must be serious.
02:12:14.000 So, so that would be my, that would be my response to that is no, they can't, they,
02:12:18.600 they suspended it long enough so that people would take it seriously, like they did with
02:12:22.600 everything.
02:12:23.080 And then as soon as it became too much, they started allowing it to happen again.
02:12:26.820 Why?
02:12:27.380 Because people needed that distraction without that distress.
02:12:30.920 Imagine if there wasn't sports on TV, if they weren't being, uh, you know, imagine if
02:12:35.620 they had said, no, we're not going to sell alcohol.
02:12:37.580 We're not going to sell weed.
02:12:38.760 We're not going to have sports, all of those things.
02:12:40.420 There would have been riots.
02:12:41.740 Imagine if they canceled Netflix during the lockdowns.
02:12:44.620 Holy fuck.
02:12:45.480 People would have been riding.
02:12:46.500 So they, they, they slowly let these things back into your life so that you wouldn't get
02:12:52.360 too uppity.
02:12:53.320 And so, yeah, imagine if they did that now, that's my whole point.
02:12:57.020 If they just said, no, no, no, this isn't because of a pandemic.
02:12:59.780 We're just going to cancel sports.
02:13:01.820 We're just going to, no, no, it's, it's an unnecessary thing.
02:13:04.820 Uh, you don't need it.
02:13:06.320 It, it's, uh, it, we just don't want it.
02:13:08.560 Everybody would lose their fucking minds, but holy shit.
02:13:11.840 There's, there's, there's drag queens dancing with their dicks out in front of kids.
02:13:16.060 I sleep.
02:13:17.920 The government is telling you that you're not allowed to work unless you take a medical
02:13:21.740 experiment.
02:13:22.420 I sleep.
02:13:25.500 Hey man, they're going to cancel the NHL playoffs.
02:13:28.280 What the fuck?
02:13:29.800 Who the fuck do they think they are?
02:13:31.860 That's how you would react.
02:13:32.980 I know that's how you would react.
02:13:34.880 This society.
02:13:36.200 That is unbelievable.
02:13:37.840 Disgusting.
02:13:38.440 I thought we had morals.
02:13:39.660 I thought we had principles.
02:13:42.520 It's the middle of the playoff season for Christ's sake.
02:13:46.320 You know, geez.
02:13:48.220 Uh, Rick freedom has a comment in chat, which I find very offensive.
02:13:51.760 Rick freedom says watching sports is effeminate.
02:13:55.080 Yes.
02:13:55.560 I enjoy watching my sports for three hours a night, watching my hockey game.
02:14:01.100 And yes, I'm sitting on a butt plug at the same time, but there's nothing at all about
02:14:05.800 watching, watching the Habs play.
02:14:08.040 Okay.
02:14:09.100 Like, I just want to look, there's nothing wrong with enjoying sports occasionally.
02:14:13.520 Right.
02:14:14.040 Like, that's not the point.
02:14:15.260 Like even bearded McNasty here in the chat.
02:14:17.000 I enjoy the NHL playoffs.
02:14:18.520 Fair enough.
02:14:18.960 Like, that's fine.
02:14:20.100 Like enjoying it is different than turning it into a fucking religion, which is what so
02:14:24.480 many of these people have done.
02:14:26.160 It's their, it's their religion.
02:14:27.760 It's their ritual.
02:14:28.900 It's their thing that they need to fill that void in their life without it.
02:14:33.300 They're empty.
02:14:34.280 Actually.
02:14:34.820 Like that.
02:14:35.600 Yeah.
02:14:36.100 No, I was going to bring this up last night when you were doing the after party, which
02:14:40.040 is essentially like, I have a friend who is a Habs fan and you know, I thought, okay,
02:14:45.120 he's a fan of the Habs, whatever.
02:14:46.680 No big deal.
02:14:47.540 He watches every regular season game, but I was hanging out with him while he was watching.
02:14:53.080 The Habs could not possibly even make the playoffs.
02:14:57.580 They could not make the playoffs, but he is still watching the final minutes of the final
02:15:03.300 game of like, literally, you know, like it's like an icing and the guy's like skating
02:15:07.340 down the ice.
02:15:07.920 He's like watching every single fucking minute.
02:15:09.800 And I'm like, why do you even care about this?
02:15:11.740 They can't make the playoffs.
02:15:12.760 You know, they've lost.
02:15:13.540 Like, why are you watching?
02:15:14.500 And he's just like, I don't know, man.
02:15:15.400 Like, I guess the outcome of this game might determine if we get a first round pick next
02:15:19.400 season.
02:15:20.220 And it's just like, what are you doing, bro?
02:15:22.740 What are you doing, man?
02:15:24.900 There's another thing about this too, which is like, it's fucking endless.
02:15:28.420 And whether it's, it's different leagues or not, it's okay.
02:15:31.800 What happens?
02:15:32.600 What guys, what happens whenever the Toronto Maple Leafs inevitably go out in the second or third
02:15:37.560 round or, or it's going to be hilarious if they make it to the cup and lose, that would
02:15:41.880 be, but you know, what, what, what's going to inevitably happen regardless whenever the
02:15:47.880 Leafs lose?
02:15:48.380 What, what are all these sports ball fans going to do next?
02:15:50.900 Right?
02:15:51.260 No, they're going to go on to the next sport, whatever it is.
02:15:57.000 Oh, baseball.
02:15:58.780 Blue Jays, man.
02:15:59.740 The blue Jays got a good shot this year.
02:16:01.720 I'm going to watch 162 fucking baseball games next that are like four hours long.
02:16:08.340 Like I was talking about the, the timing, like dude, baseball games are like four hours
02:16:12.840 long.
02:16:13.580 There's 162 of them a year for each team.
02:16:17.300 Like that's what they'll do next.
02:16:19.140 And then what happens whenever baseball season's over?
02:16:21.580 Oh, fucking NFL boy.
02:16:23.060 NFL, NFL is kicking off now.
02:16:24.880 All them bills look good this year.
02:16:26.160 And then, and then, or, and the Leafs start up again and the CFL and the fucking Raptors
02:16:31.680 and the fucking, oh, you can't forget the world juniors bent, man.
02:16:35.040 Oh, the fucking Olympics are on.
02:16:36.140 Got to watch that one too.
02:16:37.660 It's fucking endless.
02:16:39.360 And, and you know, to tie that to the whole, like, you know, alcoholism thing or drinking
02:16:43.680 thing, I had roommates in university and it was like Sunday night.
02:16:48.720 What was it?
02:16:49.320 Sunday night.
02:16:49.980 It was Sunday night, Rob, but also Sunday night football.
02:16:52.020 And then there was Monday night, uh, wrestling.
02:16:55.320 And then there was all what, like NC two a on Tuesday or some shit.
02:16:58.400 And it's like every single night they'd have, there was an excuse to like, let's drink.
02:17:01.680 And it's like, there's always like some sports ball or something like, you know, sports
02:17:04.420 event to watch every night of the week.
02:17:06.720 And it's like, fuck even Sunday, Monday.
02:17:08.800 And it's like, yeah, of course that's the ritual, bro.
02:17:10.760 So I got to head out though.
02:17:12.300 Thanks for having me.
02:17:13.420 Yeah.
02:17:13.660 No problem.
02:17:14.300 Good to see you.
02:17:15.000 Appreciate it.
02:17:16.400 Yeah.
02:17:16.880 Yeah.
02:17:17.000 Of course.
02:17:17.500 Coming on Greg.
02:17:18.420 Yeah.
02:17:18.580 No problem.
02:17:19.680 Have a good night guys.
02:17:20.560 All right.
02:17:20.820 Take her easy.
02:17:21.700 It's like, look, it's just, uh, it's endless with this shit.
02:17:24.980 And I, I, dude, it's so funny how people react to it.
02:17:30.960 Like, oh yeah.
02:17:33.420 Uh, like this is the, this is like the challenge I would like to issue to, you know, the sports
02:17:38.520 ball fans is like, give it up for a season.
02:17:40.860 Fuck you.
02:17:41.460 Make me.
02:17:42.620 I think people are tired of hearing others telling them how they should live their lives.
02:17:47.140 So the libertarian argument, right?
02:17:49.340 Yeah.
02:17:50.820 Yeah, man.
02:17:51.480 Just drink the booze, watch the sports ball, smoke the weed and jerk off to the porn.
02:17:55.940 That's sticking it to the man.
02:17:57.800 Fuck you.
02:17:58.280 Make me.
02:17:59.400 I think a perfect response to that.
02:18:02.080 But yeah, I'm glad that whatever time I wasted with, uh, you know, whether it's alcohol or
02:18:09.820 drugs that I think it was somewhat in a pursuit of something creative that I wanted to construct
02:18:17.140 something.
02:18:17.580 I didn't know how to do it, especially with the drugs.
02:18:21.260 Like I, I felt like it was helping me be more creative.
02:18:24.200 And then eventually I started putting in the work more and I would actually create stuff.
02:18:29.760 Probably could have done it quicker without the drugs.
02:18:31.900 But it's like being creative and constructive versus being passive, which is what all these
02:18:38.980 people are doing when they're spending their nights watching three, four hours of a fucking
02:18:43.460 sports game, uh, putting all their energy into that.
02:18:47.220 Like, what are you creating when you do that?
02:18:49.480 It's literally just like pure extended leisure time.
02:18:54.080 Do you imagine you have nothing to show for it?
02:18:56.440 I don't know.
02:18:57.160 Maybe Lee can chime in here too, but like, I, I think this is very true.
02:19:00.900 I've seen this happen with so many couples where it's like, um, imagine like your, your
02:19:07.740 guy is just hyper-focused, you know, every night on what other men are doing.
02:19:13.540 They're watching other men play a game.
02:19:15.820 They're counting other men's goals.
02:19:18.480 They're, they have these, these, you know, little leagues that they play in where they
02:19:22.740 draft other men so that they can manage the little team of men and like, you know, set
02:19:27.660 their lineups and like, well, I hope my, I hope my guys do well tonight.
02:19:30.980 Like, why are you so obsessed with fucking 20 year old men?
02:19:34.260 Like a fantasy league too.
02:19:35.860 That's not even real.
02:19:37.100 What, why are you, why are you obsessed with what these other men are doing?
02:19:41.400 Like, and not focusing on your own life.
02:19:44.500 I don't know.
02:19:45.820 It's pretty cringe.
02:19:47.560 Yeah.
02:19:48.420 Also now do video games too.
02:19:50.280 Do video games now.
02:19:51.220 Cause there's literally grown men who live their lives playing video games.
02:19:57.940 That's it.
02:20:00.540 Yeah.
02:20:01.720 Yeah.
02:20:02.540 Uh, that, that, that's definitely, uh, another route.
02:20:05.860 If you're playing video games and collecting Funko pops, then you're in a new, a whole new pit
02:20:11.480 of despair and soy boys, which is like a world that we don't even, if we want to get to the
02:20:16.960 actual crux of the problem, it's called suspended adolescence where a man does not want to grow
02:20:23.220 up and deal with his responsibilities as a man, for instance, go to work.
02:20:27.460 Well, this goes back to the sixties too.
02:20:30.540 Um, they invented the, the category of the teenager.
02:20:34.480 Now you could be a rebel without a cause like James Dean.
02:20:37.400 You could have this extended, like, from what I understand back, back in the good old days,
02:20:43.360 you would go from being a kid to being a man, you know, you'd go through a rite of passage.
02:20:47.960 And now all of a sudden you were responsible.
02:20:50.000 You had to work, you, you had families earlier.
02:20:52.680 Now they have this extended adolescence where, uh, it opened up a window for you to rebel against
02:20:59.040 your parents and define yourself as different from them.
02:21:01.780 And it was part of this cultural shift that, uh, where the people who are in charge were seeking
02:21:07.040 to rip people away from their families, from their traditions, from their culture and, uh,
02:21:12.380 atomize people.
02:21:14.060 Right.
02:21:14.620 And this extended adolescence plays into all of that.
02:21:17.580 And now you have universities, like I was saying before, basically extended daycares for,
02:21:24.180 uh, baby adults.
02:21:25.580 Right.
02:21:27.260 Um, and there's something that I was going to jump back to on that tweet too, which is
02:21:33.840 hilarious to me is like this idea of, cause I was talking about sports ball and drinking
02:21:38.720 and getting high in that tweet that the guy responded to with the fuck you make me.
02:21:42.760 It's like, dude, I'm not, I'm not telling you how to live your life.
02:21:45.420 I'm saying like, I asked a question.
02:21:47.760 I was like, why are, why are all these men like wasting their lives, smoking weed, getting
02:21:52.800 drunk?
02:21:53.160 Like, don't they have better things to do?
02:21:54.580 Like, like, is this really what's important right now?
02:21:56.840 And his response is like, that's such a, a fucking teenager response.
02:22:00.340 Don't tell me how to live my life.
02:22:01.700 Fuck you.
02:22:02.100 Make me like, no, man, I'm, I'm not, I'm not telling you what to do.
02:22:06.540 I'm saying like, is this really what you want to do?
02:22:09.520 Is this really what you want to do with your life?
02:22:11.720 And your response is fuck you.
02:22:13.780 Make me, I'm going to do it anyways.
02:22:15.280 Like you're a child.
02:22:17.080 Yeah.
02:22:17.480 That's just, that's such a fucking teenage.
02:22:19.240 That's like something a 17 year old girl would say to their parents when they tell them
02:22:23.320 they, you know, they have to be home by 11.
02:22:25.200 Like that's their curfew.
02:22:26.800 Nuh-uh.
02:22:29.520 Fuck you, dad.
02:22:31.460 Like, okay.
02:22:32.360 Like, yeah, break your curse.
02:22:33.520 Fine.
02:22:33.880 But like, I don't know.
02:22:35.380 You're, you're going down a weird path.
02:22:37.980 I wouldn't choose it.
02:22:38.920 Well, we got a couple more super chats.
02:22:46.660 I don't want to read.
02:22:47.320 A big agree with all that you just said there though.
02:22:51.360 Uncle Kenny saying he's waiting for somebody to give up pulling it.
02:22:55.880 Well, you shouldn't be doing that anyways, for one.
02:22:58.580 And definitely no porn.
02:23:00.300 If you're doing that, you just got to cut that out forever anyways.
02:23:03.680 So.
02:23:04.380 Dude, you know what's so funny about that?
02:23:05.880 I, I, I don't know if you were in the after party last night, but I talked to Jeremy about
02:23:10.660 that for a second.
02:23:11.380 It's like, there's a lot of people that are very forward with their vices and that,
02:23:15.900 that vice subgroup on telegram.
02:23:18.260 And they're talking about like what they're doing.
02:23:20.080 You know, it's one, I haven't seen one person say that they're quitting on there is porn.
02:23:25.220 Isn't that?
02:23:26.540 It's the one, it's the one thing that's like really embarrassing to admit, isn't it?
02:23:31.440 I'm, I, I need to stop watching so much porn.
02:23:33.960 And I guarantee you like with this, what, what is the audience right now?
02:23:38.420 130.
02:23:38.900 I guarantee you there's at least like 10 guys that are watching too much porn in,
02:23:44.060 in this audience right now.
02:23:46.140 And I know it's embarrassing.
02:23:48.040 It should be, you should stop.
02:23:50.360 It's embarrassing because you shouldn't be doing it.
02:23:53.100 Yeah.
02:23:53.480 That's why it's embarrassing.
02:23:54.140 That should tell you everything you need to know.
02:23:55.800 The fact that you're embarrassed to admit that you're watching too much porn should tell
02:24:00.260 you everything you need to know about why you have to stop it.
02:24:05.060 Yeah.
02:24:05.500 I mean, if you have urges to just don't go to the porn, like that's a whole new level
02:24:12.820 of mindfuck that you're introducing into your life.
02:24:15.280 Yeah.
02:24:15.780 Yeah.
02:24:16.040 Like that is the enemy's propaganda right there in the basement of your spirit, bro.
02:24:22.740 That's like, that's like step one, uh, instead of, instead of using porn, like I swear to God,
02:24:28.340 like I'm not even joking, go to old, go old school, go get a porn mag.
02:24:32.140 If, if you know, you're watching too much porn, go get like a, a literal pornographic magazine
02:24:37.600 and use that.
02:24:39.360 And then once, once you've, uh, you know, you've stopped jerking off to porn and you're
02:24:44.260 using porn mag, then, then switch to the fucking Sears catalog.
02:24:47.320 And if that's not good enough, then, you know, you've got a problem.
02:24:50.440 If you should be able to just use your imagination, if, if you need to get off and then eventually
02:24:58.480 you shouldn't even need to do it at all.
02:25:01.000 That's it.
02:25:01.820 I I've gone through this journey.
02:25:03.540 Yeah.
02:25:03.780 Kaboobo saying, if you're watching too much porn, you're jerking off too much.
02:25:07.660 Exactly.
02:25:08.140 The Sears catalog method.
02:25:14.400 That's good.
02:25:16.160 Sorry.
02:25:16.740 The void works.
02:25:17.520 I draw my own picks.
02:25:18.600 Sorry, mates.
02:25:22.320 Based.
02:25:23.120 I make my own porn.
02:25:24.320 I draw my own porn.
02:25:25.480 That's fucking based.
02:25:29.200 Well, I remember we once talked about fairy.
02:25:31.760 I think this was during no, not November where I was being especially deranged.
02:25:36.000 Uh, but we, uh, if you want to creep and peep on somebody and do your voyeurism that you're
02:25:44.300 doing, when you're watching porn, you should have to go climb up a tree, use binoculars and
02:25:50.660 do it the old fashioned way, or you don't get to do it.
02:25:54.640 Right.
02:25:55.140 You have to work for your voyeurism.
02:25:57.700 You need to make Tom peeping great again.
02:26:00.620 Al Stern here too.
02:26:01.760 How about you just get a wife or a girlfriend like normal people?
02:26:04.460 Yes, I agree.
02:26:05.600 But part of the problem is a lot of these guys are socially awkward because they're
02:26:08.740 jerking off too much and they don't know how to quit porn because they're addicted to
02:26:12.020 it.
02:26:12.820 I I'm literally just laying out like that to me.
02:26:15.440 If you're watching too much porn, there's, there's the step in the right direction.
02:26:18.840 Stop watching porn, use a magazine or something, and then get that fucking, you know, uh, monkey
02:26:23.740 off your back.
02:26:24.460 Stop jerking off so much.
02:26:28.160 Do you think there's any solutions to, uh, you know, the government banning porn?
02:26:33.200 Um, now I, I, I believe it was in not Idaho.
02:26:37.120 Um, there was a state where they were going to age restrict pornography.
02:26:41.860 So then Pornhub just completely blocked access, access to it in that state.
02:26:46.720 I think it was Idaho.
02:26:48.000 Idaho.
02:26:48.540 Okay.
02:26:48.820 I'm pretty sure it was Louisiana.
02:26:50.580 Wasn't it?
02:26:51.820 I don't know.
02:26:52.560 Louisiana was talking about that, but somebody can look it up.
02:26:55.360 They want.
02:26:59.180 Uh, Utah, Utah.
02:27:01.460 Hmm.
02:27:01.860 Interesting.
02:27:04.520 Well, that could set a precedent.
02:27:05.760 It seems like the Midwest and the Southern states are, some of them are setting some precedents,
02:27:11.820 like, for example, making it so that you need like three years of therapy or so before
02:27:17.620 you could transition, like in Tennessee.
02:27:22.320 And, uh, obviously Utah here, at least taking some step to banning porn.
02:27:27.300 Yeah, I would ban porn.
02:27:31.600 A lot of, a lot of libertarian bros hate that, but dude, porn is like the greasiest fucking
02:27:38.420 industry in the world.
02:27:40.140 It does so much damage.
02:27:41.920 They try to equate it to freedom of speech, but like, this is, there used to be a difference
02:27:47.500 between freedom of speech and obscenity.
02:27:50.140 Right.
02:27:50.620 And, uh, yeah, I think it's obvious.
02:27:54.840 It's like, okay, first of all, like if you just go through what porn is, it's fucking
02:27:59.880 gross.
02:28:00.760 First of all, it targets primarily underage girls.
02:28:04.600 And I mean that because they want them.
02:28:06.700 This is so gross.
02:28:07.840 They want them the moment they turn 18, the moment they're old enough to consent in, in
02:28:12.900 the, uh, you know, jurisdiction that they live in, they want them.
02:28:16.000 So they start grooming them before.
02:28:17.320 And this is true.
02:28:17.940 You can go look this up.
02:28:18.820 There's all kinds of documentaries on porn.
02:28:20.700 Most of them were approached to do porn before they turned 18.
02:28:24.000 Yeah.
02:28:24.180 And it's a majority of sex trafficking.
02:28:26.440 That's all it is.
02:28:27.800 You're watching crimes.
02:28:29.000 When you go on, you're witnessing crimes and potentially participating in them to some
02:28:34.280 capacity when you go on a porn website.
02:28:38.740 Yeah.
02:28:39.680 Tofu porn is prostitution by proxy a hundred percent.
02:28:43.220 And it's, yeah, it's insane how prostitution illegal yet.
02:28:47.160 But, uh, if you film it now, it's somehow legal.
02:28:50.080 And, uh, and, and if you don't, if you're against it, then you're some kind of weird
02:28:54.860 Christian or bigot who's sexually repressed, or at least that's what the mainstream sex
02:29:00.880 experts will tell you.
02:29:01.960 You have to pay for Netflix, but porn is free.
02:29:07.420 I don't get it.
02:29:09.760 It's obvious.
02:29:10.780 I mean, you're the product, right?
02:29:14.560 They want your soul.
02:29:15.900 That's what you're selling to them for the free porn.
02:29:18.600 Your fucking soul.
02:29:19.640 Okay.
02:29:19.920 And then on top of that too, like, like I did the deep dive on porn years ago, like,
02:29:29.020 you know, where I really kind of like, because I, yeah, I was watching it and I started noticing
02:29:33.400 that it was getting more and more fucking weird.
02:29:35.680 Like, just like the shit that would come up in like the porn hub, you know, uh, you know,
02:29:42.020 most watched daily, most watched or whatever was like fucking mom, son porn.
02:29:46.720 And like, Hmm.
02:29:50.380 Ew.
02:29:51.000 Seems like they're trying to break up the family or pervert it and twist it.
02:29:54.720 Yeah.
02:29:55.360 Yeah.
02:29:55.920 Tofu sister porn fucking like, uh, you know, like, like all kinds of like dominatrix shit.
02:30:02.260 Like, um, it, it wasn't even fucking porn anymore.
02:30:05.100 Like it was obviously what, yeah, all taboo shit.
02:30:07.680 That's exact caboo, but that's the best way to summarize it.
02:30:10.420 Everything that was taboo or fucking, you know, considered to be, um, out of place was all
02:30:15.800 of a sudden everywhere.
02:30:17.600 And so I started looking into it.
02:30:19.080 I'm like, it's crazy.
02:30:20.360 Like the percentages of porn that is like incest now is like I, when I did this, it was like
02:30:26.160 17% or something of all porn is incest.
02:30:29.360 And like, I, like I, I, I know talking about this stuff is, I can see the look on Lee's
02:30:34.780 face and I know this is not a topic that's fun to engage in, but it's like, that's it
02:30:39.160 right there.
02:30:39.700 They don't even want you to talk about it.
02:30:41.360 No, I think it's important to talk about.
02:30:43.540 Like the exact, it's like noticing this and then saying like, isn't it kind of fucked up
02:30:48.040 that a huge percentage of porn now is incest?
02:30:50.980 Like, where did that come from?
02:30:52.480 Who's pushing that?
02:30:53.660 Why are they pushing that?
02:30:55.480 Why is it free?
02:30:56.540 Like all of these questions, like, like why, why is, uh, why is fucking, uh, like, I think
02:31:05.040 I got into this with you once I do like, there's this huge undercurrent of like tranny hypnosis
02:31:09.300 porn.
02:31:10.200 It's like, are you telling me like sissy hypnosis where they're like, they're there.
02:31:14.580 And it is like, if you go look at it, there's people who have done again, like these guys
02:31:18.740 are the, the people that have done the research on this.
02:31:21.100 They're either people who are recovering from it or they're people who like, uh, God bless
02:31:26.400 them.
02:31:26.560 Cause like, I couldn't sit through what you might get a hit piece against you by media
02:31:32.080 matters for America.
02:31:33.380 You know, the same people working with the, with the DNC, the same people, uh, uh, the
02:31:39.380 founder of this, David Brock, the former boyfriend of James Aliphantus of Comet Ping
02:31:45.780 Pong Pizza, you know, pizza gate of pizza gate pain.
02:31:51.040 Uh, they're doing a hit piece against, uh, Michael Knowles cause he warns people of hypnosis
02:31:56.220 pornography that will lead to transgenderism.
02:31:59.100 What is hypnosis pornography?
02:32:02.420 Dude, it's exact, it's exact.
02:32:04.080 Okay.
02:32:04.200 First of all, like you can go look again, I, I wouldn't advise going and trying to find
02:32:10.500 this stuff.
02:32:11.160 There's people who have made documentaries about it.
02:32:13.100 So if you go to like, I don't know, I forget the names of them because they're very obscure.
02:32:17.240 Like this is, I said, I did this deep dive years ago.
02:32:19.880 This is why I fucking, I hate porn so much because I looked into all this stuff and stopped
02:32:23.980 watching it because I realized what it was becoming and like, I, you know, how greasy
02:32:28.660 the industry is and, and all the, it's, it's, it's fucking AIDS.
02:32:32.360 It's societal AIDS and nobody wants to talk about it.
02:32:35.980 Or at least if they do, it's, it's very like casual.
02:32:38.880 They never want to get into the details of it.
02:32:40.760 Right.
02:32:41.140 And it, to me, it's similar to like, um, you know, everybody's willing to talk about
02:32:47.380 the tranny stuff, but very few people are willing to like, okay, here's what it actually
02:32:51.020 looks like.
02:32:52.020 Here's the photo of a phalloplasty, look at it and understand what this really is, because
02:32:57.800 that's what really drives it home.
02:32:59.340 Right.
02:32:59.820 So this hypnosis shit is like, it starts, if you go look at these documentaries, it starts
02:33:07.260 with like, you know, you start watching regular porn, right?
02:33:11.320 Just to whatever normal, just a guy and a girl having sex.
02:33:15.540 And then you slowly want more because you want that bigger and bigger dopamine hit, or
02:33:21.160 it becomes harder to get that dopamine hit.
02:33:23.260 You start watching more and more taboo stuff, right?
02:33:27.040 It, it, it, that this happens with everybody that gets into porn.
02:33:30.540 They start going, you know, indulging into fetishes that they, they didn't previously.
02:33:35.200 The dopamine comes from novelty and shock that your brain, your brain on porn.com has a lot
02:33:42.480 of scientific information.
02:33:44.920 Now I made the, I made the mistake of, uh, when I was younger thinking that, oh, they said
02:33:50.780 that, uh, weed is bad.
02:33:52.280 They said that, uh, you know, all the, uh, uh, uh, rap music is bad.
02:33:57.120 Right.
02:33:57.400 So I put porn into that same category, but like you said too, I started to realize how fucked
02:34:02.900 it was getting, and then I looked into it and I was like, never get, but like to answer
02:34:08.560 Lee's question, the, the short version of this is the, the, the pipeline usually is guys
02:34:15.240 get into like, uh, dominatrix or like female kind of supremacy stuff.
02:34:20.500 Right.
02:34:21.260 They, and they start going down into like humiliation porn and things like that.
02:34:25.300 And then they end up at this point where they're, they're getting off on their own humiliation.
02:34:30.800 And then it gets into, uh, like tranny and sissy hypnosis stuff where it's like, it's basically
02:34:37.340 just dicks.
02:34:38.500 They're just being flashed images of dicks because their brain has become so desensitized
02:34:42.680 to it.
02:34:43.080 They don't even know what's getting them off anymore.
02:34:44.820 Right.
02:34:45.700 The humiliation and like the, the, the, the triggers are what's getting them off.
02:34:49.840 Not even necessarily the, the act of porn.
02:34:51.960 Yeah.
02:34:52.220 Jeremy just nailed it.
02:34:53.140 Cuck porn became a thing, right?
02:34:55.040 Like it, it, it goes into this route.
02:34:57.260 And then all of a sudden there's, there's guys who admit this there's, there's trannies
02:35:00.880 out there that will admit, like, I, I came to this through porn.
02:35:05.180 I was, I was like, they'll admit it.
02:35:08.880 It was porn that did this to me.
02:35:10.460 Where do they draw the line then?
02:35:11.800 Because is, is pedophilia the next step?
02:35:14.080 Like, are, are people going to be normalizing?
02:35:16.200 Are you kidding me?
02:35:17.680 Pedophilia.
02:35:18.520 Like, yeah.
02:35:19.520 Are you, are you, are you like, obviously, yeah.
02:35:23.000 I don't expect you to know a lot about porn, but like the pedophilia aspect of porn is
02:35:27.020 growing rapidly.
02:35:29.060 Like the, the, the, the infantilization of porn actors where they're wearing like little
02:35:34.580 girl outfits or acting childish or.
02:35:37.340 Just look at Belltale Fiend, the popular YouTuber influencer slash only fans porn star.
02:35:43.580 And that's like her whole shtick is being like, he, he, he, he, and wearing these retarded
02:35:48.900 like little kid outfits and shit.
02:35:51.720 The, the, the whole, the, the daddy thing, like all of this stuff, right?
02:35:56.160 Now there's one thing, there's one thing I want to say, just the idea of sissy hypno,
02:36:01.020 like that's a fucking hilarious mean in and of itself.
02:36:03.820 And all this, Oh, step sis.
02:36:06.260 Oh, all these jokes and memes are, they can be pretty funny.
02:36:10.000 But when you really think about it and talk it over, like we're talking right now, it
02:36:13.620 is fucking sick.
02:36:14.760 And it's just a sign of our, the decline of our society.
02:36:18.400 But however, it makes it very easy to laugh it off when people try to criticize it.
02:36:23.520 So for example, uh, this Michael Knowles guy is really onto something.
02:36:28.620 This is a serious conversation that they're having here.
02:36:31.600 And, uh, when I saw this on Twitter, it was all these leftists making fun of him, like
02:36:37.700 ratioing, whatever they, uh, you know, the, the alternative opinion basically saying, Oh,
02:36:44.980 I wonder what's on his porn history projection much, you know, I bet he's watching this, that
02:36:51.080 and that making jokes about it.
02:36:52.700 So it is hard to talk about it because they have this thing where they'll just say that
02:36:57.340 you're projecting and that you're some secret, you're actually secretly gay.
02:37:01.900 And this is in your search history.
02:37:04.040 Cause you're, uh, you're blowing the whistle on it.
02:37:07.320 Well, that's exactly, that's exactly it.
02:37:08.980 I've tried to talk to people about this before and they're like, how do you know this?
02:37:12.040 And I'm like, cause I noticed.
02:37:14.080 Cause yeah.
02:37:14.840 Cause I'll admit I was watching porn and I started seeing this stuff pop up like randomly
02:37:20.140 and like, you know, the most watched or like suggested and shit like that.
02:37:24.080 And I was like, what the fuck is this?
02:37:25.580 And you like, yeah, you click on it, you watch it and you're like, this fucked up.
02:37:29.480 And like, all of a sudden, like, you know, for a lot of people, it's like, okay, you might
02:37:33.020 start indulging in it.
02:37:34.840 And then you go down for me, it was like the wake up call.
02:37:37.560 Like, this is fucked.
02:37:39.680 Like, and like, obviously there's something wrong here.
02:37:42.520 And then I, I went and looked like, yeah, the, uh, your brain on porn.
02:37:46.480 Like I went to that website and I was, I learned a lot about, uh, this shit there.
02:37:51.220 And then I also, it's good to hear it from a scientific perspective, right?
02:37:55.320 Yeah.
02:37:55.720 Tofu says like 2017, 28.
02:37:57.700 Yes.
02:37:57.920 That was whenever I came to this realization that it was fucked up and started looking into
02:38:02.700 it.
02:38:03.180 And, uh, it, oddly enough, if you go to make MGTOW is big on this.
02:38:08.160 Um, I learned a lot about it whenever I did the MGTOW deep dive too, because they talk
02:38:13.060 about these things.
02:38:15.140 Oh, MGTOW.
02:38:16.380 That just means that you're an incel, you know, there's good information and like all of these
02:38:20.980 radical movements, I think.
02:38:22.420 Well, a lot of MGTOW is just noticing what they're trying to do to men and then rejecting
02:38:27.260 it.
02:38:28.420 Like, I have a, sorry, it goes too far in my opinion.
02:38:34.760 Like it, it, it becomes the complete rejection of women and just basically traditional values
02:38:40.180 itself.
02:38:40.920 And just like the, the, you know, embracing your own, uh, you know, loneliness, which is
02:38:46.640 kind of weird to me, but, um, they, they do make a lot of good points.
02:38:50.860 If you, if you actually take the time to look at what they're saying and why they're saying
02:38:54.500 it, they, they have a lot of good things to say.
02:38:56.860 They're just, they've kind of, to me, lost the plot, but.
02:39:00.140 Well, there is sort of like a shame that, that goes along with watching porn.
02:39:06.680 And, and like, honestly, I, I commend both of you for even bringing it up or talking about
02:39:12.120 it because a lot of people, like you said, won't, a lot of people won't even admit that
02:39:16.180 they have a problem.
02:39:17.280 And so like, if this, like this sort of thing, like I'm literally just learning about when,
02:39:22.220 how you guys are talking about it now.
02:39:23.680 And I'm completely disgusted and I, and I think it needs to be talked about more.
02:39:28.820 Um, I just, yeah, I commend you guys for even bringing it up.
02:39:32.360 Cause not a lot of people are willing to even admit that they like watch porn or whatever.
02:39:38.100 Um, but it's definitely, it has to be talked about.
02:39:42.040 This is the other thing too, is it like, it becomes, okay.
02:39:44.820 Now you, you notice this, like, how do you even, this is why I say the people that have
02:39:49.280 taken the time to like, go through this stuff and like, kind of like curate it.
02:39:55.380 It's like either it's weird, right?
02:39:58.040 Cause it's either you're somebody who's actually enjoying this and you just know that it's
02:40:03.160 terrible, but you're still doing it anyways.
02:40:05.660 So like, you know, to compensate, like you've watched all this stuff and you've collected
02:40:09.680 all this information and then curated it into a, like a, you know, a piece.
02:40:13.720 It's like, that's weird in and of itself.
02:40:15.480 But it's like, the, the, like, how do you analyze this without, you know, watching it?
02:40:21.640 Do you see what I'm saying?
02:40:22.700 Is it's like, what do you imagine this?
02:40:24.860 Like, let's, let's use this as the example, like, think about like, uh, you know, detectives
02:40:30.460 or police and like, you know, uh, that have to look at the most heinous of crimes, like
02:40:36.280 child porn, they have to watch it.
02:40:39.960 Like, you know what I mean?
02:40:40.780 Like there's, there's police officers that have to watch child rapes and analyze it.
02:40:46.080 Like that's fucked.
02:40:47.820 Like imagine how hard that job is on you and you have to do it.
02:40:53.700 Like there's, there's no way around it.
02:40:56.180 If you want to go after the people doing it, you need to collect the evidence.
02:40:59.600 So it's like, in order to combat this fucking porn epidemic, you're going to need these people
02:41:04.420 that are like, okay, like, this is going to fucking suck.
02:41:06.900 I'm going to have to sit through some terrible shit to, to attack this properly.
02:41:11.620 Just, just like, you know, like anything, if you want to go after communism, right?
02:41:16.020 If you want to understand, uh, you know, your enemy, you have to read Das Kapital, right?
02:41:22.780 Like you can't shy away from the, you have to understand your enemy to, to combat them.
02:41:27.380 And so like, there's going to be some people that have to make some, uh, it's going to suck.
02:41:32.220 It's going to suck.
02:41:33.640 Well, who, uh, when you think about people who are critical of porn and it's their main
02:41:39.500 thing to come at it, like at full force with like any scientific or logical argument against
02:41:46.560 it.
02:41:46.800 And we know it's damaging.
02:41:48.120 Like that's out of the question.
02:41:50.380 It is.
02:41:51.300 And we, there's scientific data.
02:41:53.360 People wouldn't be having all these problems that they need help for.
02:41:56.440 If like there wasn't an issue there, they wouldn't be feeling bad about it.
02:42:00.160 But who, who, who is an anti-porn activist?
02:42:04.460 Can you even name any where that's specifically their thing?
02:42:08.020 There's literally just the, your brain on porn guy, Gary Wilson.
02:42:10.980 And now he's dead.
02:42:12.340 There's, there's a few smaller ones.
02:42:14.900 There's Christians and Catholics for sure.
02:42:17.040 Well, there's, and like, there's also some, some people that were in the sex work industry
02:42:21.180 or, or like pornography that, that have come out against it.
02:42:24.580 And especially ex porn stars, like a lot of them, whenever they retire, they're like,
02:42:28.920 that was disgusting.
02:42:29.720 It was awful.
02:42:30.680 Everything that was done to me was terrible.
02:42:33.040 Um, and, and, you know, like, yeah, you can judge them because they did it, but it's
02:42:38.820 also like they've, yeah.
02:42:41.040 Jeremy, I've been saying it should be illegal for years.
02:42:43.700 Yeah.
02:42:43.820 A hundred percent.
02:42:44.380 It should be.
02:42:44.880 That actually is the easiest solution.
02:42:46.920 Uh, it's one, and again, think about the re that would happen if you were like, yeah,
02:42:52.820 all porn, it's just banned.
02:42:54.700 It's just, it's illegal.
02:42:56.240 We're going to, we're going to treat porn the way that we want to treat hate memes.
02:43:01.420 A porn prohibition?
02:43:03.280 That would be anti-Semitic.
02:43:05.660 You can't do that.
02:43:07.140 Yeah.
02:43:07.320 Well, yeah, they would argue that.
02:43:09.300 Well, one of the, one of the, one of the people that I listened to that really had the
02:43:15.140 most anti-porn arguments I'd ever heard was eat Michael Jones.
02:43:19.120 I've heard many good porn arguments about the history and how, how this all came about,
02:43:24.420 how obscenity basically became legal and became pornography throughout the whole 20th
02:43:30.340 century.
02:43:31.620 Yeah.
02:43:32.420 So vid, vid storm in the comments here actually has a hilarious one.
02:43:36.100 Muslims got it right on this topic.
02:43:37.800 Got to admit a hundred percent.
02:43:39.520 You know, what's hilarious about that?
02:43:41.400 Um, there was stories.
02:43:43.860 I think it was, it was either, I think it was Afghanistan, but they talked about how
02:43:47.920 they would try to bribe warlords.
02:43:49.800 Maybe Jeremy might jump in on this.
02:43:52.040 And some of these warlords would be like, no, I don't need the money.
02:43:55.200 And they'd be like, well, what do you want?
02:43:56.780 And they'd be like, porn, I want porn.
02:43:59.500 And they bribed them with fucking, you know, hours and hours of pornography.
02:44:03.700 That was their, uh, their, their bribe.
02:44:06.800 Cause they couldn't get it.
02:44:09.300 Hmm.
02:44:12.240 Wow.
02:44:12.780 Yeah.
02:44:13.020 It seems like drugs, porn, that these are some of the things that, uh, that they bring
02:44:18.320 to trade or they bring to conquer other, uh, civilizations.
02:44:22.340 Right.
02:44:22.900 Well, you think about how the, the, uh, how the British empire in the Americans gave natives
02:44:29.380 alcohol and it completely decimated their culture, right?
02:44:33.940 Like almost immediately, once they started getting into drinking, they were on a downhill
02:44:38.020 slope, uh, for porn.
02:44:40.940 E. Michael Jones talks about how the Israelis, uh, when they would do, uh, like an attack
02:44:47.480 on the Palestinians, they would take over their, uh, their TV stations and just put porn
02:44:54.760 on every station.
02:44:55.800 So that's all they could watch if they were to watch TV.
02:44:58.660 Now, why would they do that other than to just disrupt the morality and like shock the
02:45:04.760 people and give them just something that's alien to them to fuck with their heads?
02:45:09.700 That's psychological warfare right there.
02:45:12.320 This is psycho porn is psychological warfare on the people.
02:45:15.600 In fact, I got a quote here.
02:45:17.140 I'm not going to say it in its entirety or show it, but it says, this is from Al Goldstein.
02:45:23.320 One of the, uh, the original pornographers that helped get it legal and lobbied for it to
02:45:29.540 get legal throughout the 1900s says, the only reason that we are in pornography is that we
02:45:36.740 think Christ sucks.
02:45:38.660 Catholicism sucks.
02:45:40.060 We don't believe in authoritarianism.
02:45:42.820 Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture.
02:45:45.640 And as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream, it's subversive character
02:45:51.680 becomes more charged.
02:45:53.800 This is a person that really had a purpose for what they were doing.
02:45:58.220 And you could see a lot of his co-ethnics in charge of the porn industry and the pushing
02:46:06.000 it nonstop.
02:46:10.480 So that's just a little food for thought.
02:46:14.500 Now we've been going for almost three hours.
02:46:17.120 I want to kind of end it on a positive note.
02:46:19.620 It is moratorium May.
02:46:21.400 I'm off the weed and the alcohol already not doing porn.
02:46:24.880 So that's good.
02:46:26.500 Um, you guys, you're doing your things.
02:46:30.920 I don't know if you want to say it once again, just to hype everybody up.
02:46:33.880 And then I want to get into fitness.
02:46:35.720 One more, uh, one more topic before we go to leave it on a good note.
02:46:40.380 This is paper trader porn prevents rape.
02:46:44.640 Yeah.
02:46:45.060 Okay.
02:46:46.300 Sure.
02:46:47.120 Yeah.
02:46:47.320 Yikes.
02:46:49.300 That's a cope.
02:46:50.120 Yeah.
02:46:50.840 That's a massive cope.
02:46:52.040 It's something fucking satanic, you know, porn lovers say to try and make sense of, oh
02:46:57.600 man, maybe, maybe we should, I might rape someone.
02:47:00.180 Shut up.
02:47:00.920 That's retarded.
02:47:01.320 Maybe we should lock people away in porn asylum.
02:47:04.080 I think, I think he was joking, but yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's an argument that
02:47:08.560 I've seen pushed.
02:47:09.680 Yeah.
02:47:10.080 Porn prevents rape.
02:47:11.000 Okay.
02:47:11.600 I just got triggered.
02:47:17.220 Sorry.
02:47:17.820 I didn't mean to cut you off there.
02:47:18.880 Reggie for quitting.
02:47:21.520 Uh, yeah, no, I, I, uh, I'm doing the vape and, uh, I don't know for me, uh, the, the
02:47:27.220 main thing was more of like, okay, let's focus more on doing things.
02:47:30.740 Yeah.
02:47:31.200 Not necessarily quitting things, but like, cause they're like, I don't, yeah, you're
02:47:35.920 right.
02:47:36.060 I don't watch porn.
02:47:36.880 I don't, I don't drink.
02:47:37.860 I don't smoke weed.
02:47:39.200 Um, so.
02:47:41.620 Well, these fucking articles, man.
02:47:45.740 I see them all the time.
02:47:48.140 Too much exercise can kill you.
02:47:50.000 Oh, okay.
02:47:50.780 Yeah.
02:47:51.080 Well, I'm going to just say that my, the thing that I'm basically giving up the most is the
02:47:55.880 few beers every night.
02:47:57.300 It, I got to a point where I wasn't really making a fool to myself, uh, fool of myself
02:48:03.680 anymore, but you know, I really enjoyed those few beers and it was kind of a cope in order
02:48:09.960 to get through the day.
02:48:10.700 Like I look forward to that, uh, uh, but what goes up must come down.
02:48:16.440 Right.
02:48:17.040 And, uh, I'd like to do without it and replace it with some, with a habit that I know is good
02:48:23.700 that could help, help have an avalanche effect with all the other things I'm doing, like working
02:48:29.560 out.
02:48:29.840 So like maybe instead of getting, going and getting those two or three beers, go and meditate
02:48:34.460 or, you know, go do yoga, go do some stretches, you know, instead of putting that goyslop drink
02:48:42.680 into your stomach with all those estrogenic compounds, do something that's going to not
02:48:49.480 be counterproductive to becoming a fucking ubermensch.
02:48:53.780 And that is what they don't want you to be because yeah, this is real, uh, daily mail.
02:49:03.040 So this is from 2017 says too much exercise can kill you, especially if you're a white
02:49:08.820 man.
02:49:10.660 So that's the part that makes me think like it's fake because this is like so ridiculously
02:49:17.100 targeted that like, it's like, okay, so yeah, don't exercise.
02:49:21.240 If you're a white man, that's, that's not good for you.
02:49:24.040 It's like, holy shit.
02:49:25.000 Like, are you not even hiding it anymore?
02:49:26.560 Yeah.
02:49:26.800 You're not even hiding it.
02:49:27.960 Like God forbid, you know, you have a, you know, groups of fit white men roaming around
02:49:32.520 like that's terrifying, right?
02:49:34.320 But if you do, you're probably really extreme and you're probably a dangerous, dangerous
02:49:39.640 person.
02:49:40.220 If you go hiking and you're white, that's whoa, that's crazy.
02:49:43.820 Exercising.
02:49:44.920 It's extreme.
02:49:46.400 Look at 7.5 hours a week of fitness doubles your risk of heart.
02:49:52.000 Only 7.5.
02:49:54.140 That's fucking crazy.
02:49:55.240 Now I looked into this article and it seems like everybody in the comments is just calling
02:49:59.480 it out as being bunk science.
02:50:01.020 Like they're taking one measure of, of, uh, heart, the risk of heart disease, which is,
02:50:09.020 uh, what was it?
02:50:11.300 The CAC coronary artery calcification.
02:50:15.360 But when you actually look deeper into it, it does not equal 86 being 86 more likely to
02:50:24.500 have a heart attack because you're white than a black, black person or whoever else.
02:50:29.780 Like, uh, they're, they're just completely fudging the metrics.
02:50:33.060 You know, they're doing their, their silly little alchemy with numbers and data in order
02:50:37.740 to have a clickbait title.
02:50:39.440 And like you said, possibly just be subversive.
02:50:43.280 So what if you just do seven hours a week?
02:50:46.500 Are you okay then?
02:50:47.560 Or is it just 7.5?
02:50:51.140 No, if they're telling, if they're telling you that 7.5 hours of fitness, uh, a week is
02:50:56.180 too much, you should be doing 15.
02:50:58.680 Yeah, really?
02:50:59.960 There you go.
02:51:00.700 That's the rule.
02:51:01.660 15 hours.
02:51:03.040 Good to know.
02:51:04.720 Oh yeah.
02:51:05.360 So this is what I did in response.
02:51:19.580 That's a 315 right there.
02:51:35.360 One more.
02:51:39.940 Oh shit.
02:51:40.660 He's going for it.
02:51:41.840 Let's go.
02:51:45.820 Wow.
02:51:46.360 That's five, five reps of 315 on the deadlift.
02:51:50.220 Not bad for a little man.
02:51:52.080 There you go.
02:51:53.220 Right on, man.
02:51:54.360 That's crazy.
02:51:55.280 Now that was from like maybe six or seven months ago, but I just did that exact same five sets
02:52:01.540 of 315 at the gym.
02:52:03.660 I'll get my ass off the screen.
02:52:05.640 Uh, yeah.
02:52:06.080 Five sets of 315 yesterday at the gym.
02:52:09.240 So I took like a month or a month or so of less training because I was sick and I fucked
02:52:14.800 up my shoulder.
02:52:16.440 Ironically, having a deranged workout with Shane Marshall, our good friend Pembles, having
02:52:21.680 a deranged workout at home with him, I kind of screwed up my shoulder so that, you know,
02:52:26.400 I didn't have any mobility over with it for a while, but now I'm getting back at it.
02:52:30.960 And with, uh, subtracting the alcohol, taking away from it every night, uh, I bet you I could
02:52:38.120 get back to doing eight, maybe 10 reps of that.
02:52:41.160 Or maybe God knows I'll get to four plates.
02:52:47.440 Everybody's fucking, uh, criticizing Edgy's form here now.
02:52:51.320 You fucking do it.
02:52:53.800 You fucking do it.
02:52:54.700 You like, you film yourselves and then post it so we can all fucking criticize you guys.
02:53:00.340 Let's see.
02:53:00.760 I lifted a watermelon the other day.
02:53:02.440 Does that count?
02:53:03.240 Some jugs of water?
02:53:04.120 I did that.
02:53:05.280 Is that cool?
02:53:06.460 No.
02:53:06.860 Yeah, that counts.
02:53:07.720 Sure.
02:53:08.180 Why not?
02:53:10.780 Sweet.
02:53:11.320 No, for, for me, I plan on being way more active getting, I want to work out like maybe
02:53:17.820 I'm going to try for every day, but like, that's going to be my goal.
02:53:21.760 I know I'm probably not going to fulfill it because that's, um, pretty extreme, but I want
02:53:26.920 to do something, at least something every day.
02:53:29.080 Um, I want to get more active for May.
02:53:31.700 That's, uh, that was my goal is to be way more active than I have been.
02:53:36.240 Winter's been pretty blah.
02:53:39.280 So now I'm going to use this to get motivated and come back in the swing of things.
02:53:45.060 Now, now the chat is butthurt because I, I, I threw it back at them.
02:53:49.680 I'm just joking, guys.
02:53:50.860 I know it was constructive criticism.
02:53:52.680 You know, they, they say I'm late and gay.
02:53:55.440 I have bad for them.
02:53:56.540 They're just fucking busting my balls.
02:53:57.980 I say you're late and gay.
02:53:58.900 Yeah, you incite the chat to say that.
02:54:00.660 You in favor.
02:54:01.780 Yeah.
02:54:02.240 Every, every time.
02:54:03.600 I'm hoping one day maybe you'll just be on time if, if we roast.
02:54:06.820 That's what you should do.
02:54:07.780 That's what you should do, Edgy.
02:54:08.960 It's just like one time, just be like, I'm 15 minutes early.
02:54:12.300 Fuck you.
02:54:12.940 How about that?
02:54:15.820 That's, you know, when, that's when things will really get going, you know?
02:54:20.060 Diaglon, Diaglon will be unstoppable, stoppable at that point.
02:54:24.200 Everybody will bitch about you, uh, being early.
02:54:27.500 Right.
02:54:28.000 Yeah.
02:54:28.280 Yeah.
02:54:28.820 I missed half the stream.
02:54:31.680 Well, I think it's a good idea to get active every day.
02:54:34.700 I don't think that's, uh, an unreasonable goal at all.
02:54:37.140 And my advice would be do it first thing in the morning to get going, right?
02:54:42.600 Even if it's something small and then you could build off of it, maybe do another one
02:54:46.720 later, but later in the day.
02:54:48.380 But if you start off the day with that, then you've got it in already and doesn't even have
02:54:54.120 to be long, like five, 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes, even.
02:55:01.400 Let's go.
02:55:02.860 Yeah.
02:55:03.260 Well, I'll see what it, if any, but if I missed any super chats, if anyone's saying
02:55:10.960 anything else in the chat, what the fuck are people saying about my deadlift form?
02:55:15.060 Um, uh, the ones criticizing are just looking out for edgy's health.
02:55:25.420 Okay.
02:55:26.180 Interesting.
02:55:26.700 The form is a little off.
02:55:28.020 Strength is there for sure.
02:55:29.500 Straighten up your back.
02:55:30.560 Look forward when lifting to keep your back straight and you'll be doing four plates in
02:55:36.720 July.
02:55:37.240 Okay.
02:55:38.080 Interesting.
02:55:39.140 No.
02:55:39.720 Yeah.
02:55:40.000 I, I could see that I wasn't fully extended all the way or, uh, I'm always working on the
02:55:45.640 form, so it's appreciated.
02:55:49.700 Uh, just over looking over on entropy.
02:55:52.620 Oh, we missed a super chat from, uh, donkey dong along.
02:55:55.820 Again, saying, this is the best time of year to make quick money and get rich.
02:55:59.780 Just take the craziest Maple Leaf fans and take bets with them.
02:56:03.700 Finesse that cash.
02:56:06.220 Well, yeah, good point.
02:56:07.600 Uh, you will get a lot of sports balls fans that are, are just on an endless supply of
02:56:13.160 copium.
02:56:13.920 So, you know, maybe you could, uh, cash in on that.
02:56:21.960 All right.
02:56:22.620 Well, do you guys have anything, uh, you want to say to end this off?
02:56:26.080 Any final words?
02:56:28.300 Um, pair up with somebody, uh, for moratorium may, uh, lean on each other so you can celebrate
02:56:35.320 your victories.
02:56:36.760 Um, yeah, that's about it.
02:56:40.500 Good luck.
02:56:41.300 Hell yeah.
02:56:45.560 All right.
02:56:46.340 Um, get, get those, uh, like fitness groups going, get, uh, get together and do it.
02:56:54.640 It's more fun that way.
02:56:57.640 Hell yeah.
02:56:58.440 If anybody's doing anything around the London area or in the future, uh, the Hamilton area,
02:57:03.440 I'm fucking down to go, uh, whatever, man, whether it's boxing, some kind of martial
02:57:08.900 arts, especially weightlifting.
02:57:11.040 Anybody who, uh, who goes to a good life, uh, around this area, you know, I love to fucking
02:57:17.660 have a workout buddy.
02:57:18.620 I just go solo and I do my thing, but yeah, if we do it together as a team and hype each
02:57:24.060 other up, who knows where we could go and who knows where we could go when Diagalon gets
02:57:30.780 sober, that's what they really don't want to happen.
02:57:35.760 Right.
02:57:36.280 That's terrifying.
02:57:37.100 That's when they'll have to kill us.
02:57:40.760 Yeah.
02:57:41.660 Actually.
02:57:43.060 I'm actually a little bit worried about that.
02:57:45.720 Like Jeremy ascending, uh, to, to new heights and they, they can't go after the little, little,
02:57:53.440 uh, things anymore that they were going before.
02:57:55.640 Well, you know, drunken comments or this and that.
02:57:58.640 So what's the next step?
02:58:00.780 When they can't smear anymore, when the smears aren't working or when, when they can't find
02:58:06.380 those little missteps.
02:58:07.760 I think it's, I think it's, uh, more than that.
02:58:10.300 I think, uh, like they, uh, to, to start this all off when Jeremy decided that he was
02:58:17.560 going to push people to meet in real life, you know, do the, the find your friends campaign.
02:58:23.240 That was whenever they started focusing on what we were doing.
02:58:26.140 Like that was whenever the CSIS investigations really kicked off was then they really don't
02:58:31.480 want people organizing in real life along political lines, but like, you know, community
02:58:38.480 oriented.
02:58:39.620 They really don't like that.
02:58:41.360 And it's not, that's not true of just Canada.
02:58:43.300 That's a whole bunch of other places too.
02:58:45.180 They really don't like, you know, patriarchal turn.
02:58:47.760 They really hate patriarchal alternative.
02:58:49.720 Yeah, they do.
02:58:50.780 They really hate, you know, like some of these resistant movements that are pushing the same
02:58:55.800 things in other countries.
02:58:57.020 They really don't like it.
02:58:58.320 And it's not because their, uh, patriarchal alternative is being offensive or anything.
02:59:04.240 They're really not.
02:59:05.300 No.
02:59:05.520 There's really nothing that is offensive to, to the average person with common sense.
02:59:10.840 It's not like the Goyim defense league or some of these clowns that are going around like,
02:59:15.500 uh, you know, trying purposely to be offensive and like vulgar.
02:59:19.600 No, they're, they're afraid about how normal it is and about how productive and inspiring it
02:59:26.480 it is.
02:59:27.960 Yeah.
02:59:29.040 Yeah.
02:59:29.520 And yeah, I think that's a good point.
02:59:31.760 Make your enemies fear.
02:59:36.040 100%.
02:59:36.480 And that's, so yeah.
02:59:37.580 They don't want us accomplishing anything.
02:59:39.200 They just want us in front of a computer screen.
02:59:41.180 They just want us docile, just trusting the plan and it, yeah, they don't want us accomplishing
02:59:47.500 anything.
02:59:47.860 So go accomplish something.
02:59:50.060 Yeah.
02:59:50.560 To, to relate that back.
02:59:51.920 It's like, yeah, the idea of a diagonal on that is sober and organizing in real life.
02:59:59.100 They don't like us online as it is like, that's, that's really, they're not going to
03:00:05.640 like that.
03:00:06.340 So do it.
03:00:08.220 Do it.
03:00:09.140 Just fucking do it.
03:00:10.580 Now on that note, uh, thank you guys for coming on.
03:00:14.060 Uh, it was a little different.
03:00:15.580 Me not having the usual couple of drinks before, but I think, I think it went well.
03:00:20.200 I think this was really inspiring.
03:00:21.660 It's good.
03:00:22.820 Uh, glad to have your opinions on.
03:00:24.700 Thank you, Greg, for coming on earlier.
03:00:26.540 Thank you, Lee.
03:00:27.240 And thank you, Ferryman.
03:00:28.580 Yeah.
03:00:28.840 Thanks for having me.
03:00:29.640 Thank you all for watching and all those who donated.
03:00:32.280 And here's some here a, some Xerius featuring here a to get you guys inspired as we end this
03:00:39.920 stream.
03:00:41.040 Some good, positive nationalist music.
03:00:43.820 Let's fucking go.
03:00:45.660 All right.
03:00:46.180 See you guys.
03:00:47.420 See ya.
03:00:50.200 Oh, sorry.
03:01:10.880 I realized we have some super chats on, on, uh, intro.
03:01:14.740 Oh, sorry.
03:01:15.220 On Odyssey.
03:01:15.760 I did not think Odyssey would come through, but I'm going to read these quickly.
03:01:20.500 So our cunning, uh, if they want to credit, uh, cunning, cunning draw says, if they want
03:01:25.980 to criticize, they have to post physique.
03:01:28.780 Very true.
03:01:30.180 Very true.
03:01:31.660 Show receipts.
03:01:33.460 Oh, and he says, nice lift.
03:01:35.280 Says went to jujitsu class and hit a tea shop with an open mic.
03:01:39.900 Sick, man.
03:01:40.700 And another super chat saying he's hanging in there, but getting squirrely from not drinking
03:01:47.800 and having a smoke.
03:01:50.000 Well, fucking awesome, man.
03:01:51.920 Uh, and good on you for supporting a platform like, uh, Odyssey.
03:01:58.640 They're really doing good stuff.
03:02:02.300 All right.
03:02:02.860 Thank you guys.
03:02:03.640 I'll see you later.
03:02:04.260 I'll see you later.
03:02:34.260 I'll see you later.
03:03:04.240 See you later.
03:03:34.240 Before, our future may secure
03:03:41.240 We were meant to survive
03:04:05.240 To transcend, go forth and thrive
03:04:10.240 Find the light, leave behind
03:04:15.240 All the things that made us blind
03:04:20.240 It's up to us to show the way
03:04:24.240 To hold the torch, a come what may
03:04:29.240 We will do all we can
03:04:34.240 Till time's not running through our hands
03:04:39.240 Forever keep in mind
03:04:44.240 We're fighting for our kind
03:04:49.240 To learn from those before
03:04:53.240 Our future may secure
03:04:58.240 Youけれb'n haven't been
03:05:02.240 Really maybe
03:05:08.240 Uh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ohocker
03:05:13.240 You
03:05:43.240 Thank you.
03:06:13.240 Thank you.