The Ferryman's Toll - The Daily Toll - 07-02-26

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00:05:42.000 We were getting our share

00:05:43.320 Working on our nightmares

00:05:46.540 Trying to lose the awkward teenage blues

00:05:52.180 Working on our nightmares

00:05:55.460 And it was summertime

00:06:00.280 Sweet

00:06:06.840 Summertime, summertime

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00:06:22.860 The wonder

00:06:26.800 I felt the lightning

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00:06:34.160 I waited on the thunder

00:06:36.580 I waited on the thunder

00:06:40.640 I woke last night to the sound of thunder

00:06:53.140 How far off I sat and wondered

00:06:57.120 Started humming a song from 1962

00:07:01.400 And it's funny how the night moves

00:07:07.740 When you just don't seem to have

00:07:12.260 As much to lose

00:07:14.100 Strange how the night moves

00:07:18.940 With all them closing in

00:07:25.280 Night moves

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00:07:42.800 Oh, sure remember the night moves

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00:07:54.860 Waking

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00:08:01.640 Night moves

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00:08:07.300 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

00:08:13.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:08:14.900 No more

00:08:15.460 I can see her lying back in her satin dress

00:08:44.320 In a room where you do what you don't confess

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00:08:49.020 Some down

00:08:51.360 You better take care

00:08:53.400 If I find you've been creeping round my back stairs

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00:09:00.440 You better take care

00:09:02.680 If I find you've been creeping round my back stairs

00:09:07.200 She's been looking like a queen in a sailor's dream 0.98

00:09:13.780 And she don't always say

00:09:16.060 What she really means

00:09:18.560 Sometimes I think it's a shame

00:09:22.640 When I get feeling better

00:09:25.160 When I'm feeling no pain

00:09:27.420 Sometimes I think it's a shame

00:09:31.860 When I get feeling better

00:09:34.220 When I'm feeling no pain

00:09:36.560 I can picture every move

00:09:45.740 That a man could make

00:09:47.780 Getting lost in her loving

00:09:50.160 Is your first mistake

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00:09:54.840 You better take care

00:09:56.840 If I find you've been creeping round my back stairs

00:10:01.620 Sometimes I think it's a sin

00:10:05.800 When I feel like I'm winning

00:10:08.300 When I'm losing again

00:10:10.440 I want you to obrigado

00:10:11.680 I want you toうわ

00:10:29.740 I want you to find you

00:10:33.300 I can see her looking fast in her faded jeans 1.00

00:10:48.860 She's a heart-loving woman, not me feeling mean

00:10:53.380 Sometimes I think it's a shame

00:10:57.880 When I get feeling better, when I'm feeling no pain

00:11:02.620 Sundown, you better take care

00:11:06.920 If I find you've been creeping round my back stairs

00:11:11.640 Sundown, you better take care

00:11:15.940 If I find you've been creeping round my back stairs

00:11:20.660 Sometimes I think it's a sin

00:11:27.080 When I feel like I'm winning, when I'm losing again

00:11:31.680 I don't have any hope

00:11:36.880 I can honestly rotate

00:11:39.100 But anyway, it's a insane

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00:16:00.080 The Cabinette Road

00:16:04.000 The Cabinette Road

00:16:30.080 Well, I've been looking real hard

00:16:53.920 And I'm trying to find a job

00:16:55.760 But it just gets getting tougher every day

00:16:58.900 But I've got to do my part

00:17:01.780 Cause I know in my heart

00:17:03.480 I've got to please my sweeten baby, yeah 0.98

00:17:06.780 Well, I ain't superstitious

00:17:09.720 And I don't get suspicious

00:17:11.600 But my woman is a friend of mine 1.00

00:17:14.760 And I know that it's true

00:17:17.380 That all the things that I do

00:17:19.220 Will come back to me in my sweeten time

00:17:23.060 So keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:17:25.740 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:17:29.620 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:17:33.620 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:17:37.560 I went from Phoenix, Arizona

00:17:41.060 All the way to Tacoma

00:17:43.020 Philadelphia, Atlanta, L.A.

00:17:47.360 Northern California

00:17:48.880 Where the girls are warm 0.93

00:17:50.780 So I could be with my sweet baby, yeah

00:17:53.880 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:17:56.440 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:18:00.380 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:18:03.320 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:18:05.120 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:18:08.260 Baby, baby, baby

00:18:09.580 Keep on rockin' me 0.92

00:18:10.260 Rockin' me, baby

00:18:11.220 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:18:12.460 Rockin' me, baby

00:18:13.500 Rockin' me, baby

00:18:14.760 Keep on rockin', rockin' me, baby 0.86

00:18:21.620 Woo-hoo, yeah

00:18:28.120 Don't get suspicious, now don't be suspicious

00:18:32.340 Baby, you know you are a friend of mine

00:18:35.260 And you know that it's true

00:18:38.160 That all the things that I do

00:18:40.080 I'm gonna come back to you in your sweet time

00:18:43.460 I went from Phoenix, Arizona

00:18:46.160 All the way to Tacoma

00:18:48.160 Philadelphia, Atlanta, L.A.

00:18:52.500 Northern California

00:18:54.000 Where the girls are warm 0.93

00:18:55.860 So I could hear my sweeten' baby say 0.99

00:18:59.000 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:19:02.240 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:19:06.240 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:19:10.420 Keep on rockin' me, rockin' me, rockin' 0.88

00:19:14.460 Maybe, baby, baby

00:19:15.740 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:19:18.020 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:19:21.960 Keep on rockin' me, baby 0.99

00:19:26.160 oh what's going on everybody happy saturday i didn't really know what to play tonight so i

00:19:43.100 figured i'd just pick a bunch of classics if you've noticed that the intros are getting longer

00:19:48.980 it's because if i play a 10 minute intro there's like 100 people here when i start and go live

00:19:54.840 if i play it for 15 or 20 minutes there's like 300 people here or more so yeah that's unfortunate

00:20:03.680 being being on time is not to your advantage because nobody else is on time what's up guys i

00:20:10.240 hope you're having a great weekend it is february 7th 2026 and uh i don't know i guess we'll get into

00:20:19.100 some different stuff tonight alberta girl says tease yeah absolutely you got to tease a little bit

00:20:26.860 odin's no mess is cold as fuck are you one of the the people in southern ontario that are 0.94

00:20:37.540 complaining about having you know below zero temperatures for 18 or 20 days in a row or

00:20:42.580 whatever it is now yeah well welcome to the vast majority of canada so the people in southern

00:20:48.880 ontario i mean obviously they can get some pretty nasty stuff but i don't think they really understand

00:20:53.420 you go four or five hours north and it's consistently 10 degrees or more colder than it is in southern

00:21:00.320 ontario so yeah um but uh you know it's funny that actually came up recently i saw somebody

00:21:10.360 mentioned this it's a trope you see consistently over and over again which is something like i can't

00:21:16.100 wait for winter because you know it's going to you know drive all the migrants uh back home or they're 1.00

00:21:23.360 gonna hate it or you know whatever some some version of that kind of uh you know trope about how we can

00:21:31.480 handle the winter and they can't and uh i think that's a cope i i think that's like a uh

00:21:37.360 i i feel like that's kind of delusional um from what i've seen canadians complain way more about

00:21:46.380 the winter now than the migrants do i very rarely see migrants complain about winter um i see canadians

00:21:53.200 do it all the time and i think the you know the reason behind that is because if you're coming from

00:22:00.240 somewhere where heating cooling plumbing you know electricity are a luxury if not you know something

00:22:09.080 that's basically impossible to have or at least impossible to have um consistently then winter's

00:22:15.920 really not that much of a price to pay you know like would you rather live in india or deal with

00:22:22.880 winter you know you know when people complain about i want to live somewhere warm well do you want to

00:22:26.500 live in india no you'd rather live in canada right so you know we we play into that trope we act like

00:22:36.200 a lot of the times like um you know we can endure the cold you know better than most and that that is

00:22:41.800 probably true to an extent because we're more acclimatized to it but this idea that you know

00:22:47.140 canadians uh embrace winter and um you know love just getting out there and uh you know enduring the

00:22:55.760 cold and the bitter conditions is nonsense um the vast majority of people like this like when you

00:23:02.180 think about their interactions with winter now and like i'm not you know bragging like i'm not much

00:23:06.420 different but they go from their heated home you know they remote start their car they walk you know

00:23:15.160 from their home to their car and are outside for 15 you know 20 seconds uh into their heated car

00:23:22.000 where they drive on freshly plowed you know highways uh and into a parking lot where they then spend

00:23:28.020 another 15 or 20 seconds going you know in in the cold going wherever they need to go um that's that's

00:23:35.060 more of you know the the typical experience of the canadian winter now than you know getting out there

00:23:41.420 and embracing it um obviously you know some people uh still ski skate etc but it's something we've lost

00:23:50.580 um i think a lot of people forget that until the 50s and 60s winter was something you embraced

00:23:59.980 because there was nothing else to do there was no there was no entertainment there was no uber eats

00:24:06.040 there was no uh like there was none of these you know modern commodities that make winter you know

00:24:11.260 very easy to just you know sit inside and ignore uh that didn't exist um if you were inside well first

00:24:18.700 of all in winter you couldn't go anywhere uh for the vast majority of people even into the 50s and

00:24:24.160 60s like think about if you lived particularly in a rural area or even you know a somewhat rural area

00:24:31.540 uh there was no like plowed roads like even if you had like think about it too a lot of people did not

00:24:39.040 have vehicles uh until the 50s and 60s um you weren't driving anywhere and even if you did you know

00:24:46.340 you were lucky enough to have a vehicle of some kind um the fact like the ability of it to operate

00:24:52.540 in those winter conditions was next to none so um you were stuck like you you were stuck indoors you

00:25:01.100 were stuck within walking distance however far you could walk uh in those conditions and that was about

00:25:07.040 it and what do you do in that scenario like you're stuck inside so you're either reading

00:25:13.320 right or you're playing games and this is one thing that's dying in canada is we used to have

00:25:20.200 like a great game culture that i think a lot of people underestimate and they don't necessarily

00:25:26.920 appreciate and if i mention it like you guys will all know what i'm talking about crokinoe euchre crib

00:25:34.180 um even things like uh we called it slide board like this is actually a very it was a very popular thing

00:25:43.020 you know in the 20th century before video games and um you know modern technology it was like a a

00:25:51.600 polished wooden board that had you know two uh boundaries on it and a little piece of wood that

00:25:58.620 had four slots in it and there was four pucks and you would slide the pucks along the polished surface

00:26:04.580 and try to get it into the holes my family on my dad's side had one of those that was built by my

00:26:10.440 grandfather you know in the 50s and it's still around today and it was brought out to like family

00:26:14.960 events and stuff like that's what the kids did in winter if they were indoors even even when they

00:26:22.360 had a tv there's three channels there's really not that much on like there's what are you gonna watch

00:26:27.020 so they would play games another one was ping pong but um yeah this stuff is is dying out i think

00:26:34.180 people underestimate how big that is in canada as a culture relative to other places like crib euchre

00:26:40.760 crokinoe like these are things that were very popular that weren't necessarily uh so much the

00:26:46.400 case in other places and it's dying out but if you didn't want to stay indoors you had to go outside

00:26:51.620 and so what do you want to do do you want to sit inside and you know have cabin fever or do you want

00:26:56.680 to go outside and do something and just you know deal with the cold and so that's where you had that

00:27:01.320 kind of like uh you know tough attitude towards winter that you know you don't see anymore so

00:27:06.280 yeah i don't know i think it's cope and i think that uh you know if canadians want to find their

00:27:13.900 fucking balls again they gotta stop um one coping that they're tough about winter and two uh get back 0.95

00:27:21.300 out there so um least who says but have you ever played secret hitler i have played secret hitler

00:27:30.320 it's a pretty fun game yeah it was somebody says uh you know hot no hockey was the shit like even

00:27:41.360 that um like i don't i don't know if this still exists as much as it like i feel like it must be

00:27:47.240 dying because i don't see it as much even where you see outdoor rinks uh or ponds and stuff like that

00:27:53.360 you don't they're not very active so we had i lived in a very small town we did have an odr

00:27:59.460 and we were there like three or four nights out of the week and then you know saturday and sunday

00:28:05.780 you know like after school we would go there and then saturday and sunday we would go there

00:28:09.420 and we'd be there for hours so like by ourselves so like i don't know if that culture still exists

00:28:16.420 i know a lot of people have really uh made it super convenient to do so yeah there's obviously

00:28:24.720 you know parents and stuff that literally they literally build a rink in their backyard for their

00:28:29.540 kids right which is great but you know the kid has to walk it's it's big walk out your back door

00:28:36.340 and you're at the rink and then if you get cold you know you just walk inside you know um

00:28:41.720 i feel like it's different than it was before

00:28:45.000 um

00:28:47.540 uh neonist says is where you're at colder than montreal fairy i was just there and it's

00:28:54.880 beautiful and everyone's out enjoying themselves in the cold uh i don't i don't not sure if it's

00:28:59.240 colder in montreal right now it's pretty cold where i am right now i think it's i don't know i'll tell you

00:29:03.880 i don't know it's minus 16 right now it was in the minus 20s earlier but yeah um

00:29:12.520 anyways that was just something that came up recently and i keep it kind of like got to me

00:29:20.160 eventually because i kept hearing that trope of you know old man winter is gonna re-migrate

00:29:26.440 the migrants for us and it's like guys we've been saying this for years at this point it's not true

00:29:31.460 um

00:29:32.580 i just i yeah even if they don't like it it's better than the alternative right

00:29:42.280 at least he says i actually want to try curling curling is still that'll be another one that's

00:29:51.300 dying at least a little bit because it's a boomer sport um 0.86

00:29:55.660 i know next to no one in my age bracket who played curling growing up and if they did it was

00:30:02.620 because they played with their parents um and from what i've seen uh of the curling clubs and stuff

00:30:09.020 like that it has a very slanted age demographic towards you know the older generation so uh at least

00:30:17.000 as it looks really fun it's harder than it looks too it's actually pretty difficult

00:30:21.040 scotian gentleman says listening to this while taking life's frustrations on out on these gta 4

00:30:32.320 i mean go for it man you want to unwind playing video games i don't have an issue with that

00:30:38.640 um

00:30:39.760 yeah everybody needs something where they just do it because they enjoy doing it that's it um

00:30:47.960 if there's always an ulterior motive behind why you're doing something

00:30:55.540 um i don't think that's good like look i enjoy working out but there's an ulterior motive behind

00:31:02.020 why you're doing it right you want to stay fit you want to be healthy you know like there's a reason

00:31:06.580 why you're doing it it's not that i i don't enjoy doing it it's just there's there's i'm not doing

00:31:11.240 it purely because i enjoy it there's an ulterior motive like i enjoy playing chess but i do that you

00:31:16.700 know with the ulterior kind of motive of like it's good to engage your brain like that occasionally

00:31:21.520 um you should do something purely at least one thing purely because you like it um and then just

00:31:29.020 not get absorbed in it like for i'll like mine is i i paint models i do it because i i there's no

00:31:40.400 i just like it

00:31:41.880 and then uh you'll often like you see that sometimes with guys in our uh you know sphere

00:31:51.000 they'll say things like you know you shouldn't be playing video games at all because of the

00:31:56.520 situation that we're in but they have their own escapes that they're they just you know they're

00:32:02.920 biased towards and they view as more virtuous or productive or something and it's like well you're

00:32:08.700 doing the same thing like what is like is there really a difference between a guy who wants to play

00:32:15.780 video games and you whatever you go for a motorcycle ride or something to unwind like what's the

00:32:22.020 difference how is one more productive than the other um so they they like add this kind of morality

00:32:30.960 to hobbies or something like that and i don't know or they'll say things like well there's better games

00:32:36.180 to play than you know okay so even with video games it's like some video games are actually

00:32:41.180 uh really engaging and good for you like if you're playing like video games can be something like i don't

00:32:46.620 know risk or um you know the online strategy games and stuff like that like that's actually a healthy

00:32:53.360 thing to do as long as you're not um sucked into it and addicted to it so what's the difference between

00:33:00.920 that or if if somebody was playing yeah at least as we play a ton of board games here yeah if somebody

00:33:05.200 was playing a board game like as a social thing you know it doesn't have the stigma as like if you

00:33:10.200 were on cod playing with your friends like all of a sudden there's a stigma to it and like one is better

00:33:14.160 than the other i don't know maybe slightly but does it really matter

00:33:19.020 adam says things what if i played video games while riding a motorcycle hey man

00:33:32.020 that's impressive uh i got neonist right where's his yeah i got his chat and uh i forgot to mention uh

00:33:43.220 fanny shrewd gifted five subscriptions so thank you very much for that fanny

00:33:48.580 at least you don't play edgy in scrabble he cheats cheating is part of part of board games

00:34:01.720 all right well i've beandered around a couple different topics for long enough we're already

00:34:15.260 uh half an hour into the show

00:34:17.580 what do you want to say hello come here come up yep

00:34:24.940 yeah say hello to the people

00:34:28.560 yeah

00:34:29.800 uncle sammy says fairy is the type to play the banker in monopoly or quit

00:34:42.520 oh geez it's you gotta let me control the monopoly bank it would be anti-semitic if you said that i

00:34:51.960 couldn't let me control that i'll uh i'll i'll be fair i swear i won't take advantage of the position

00:34:59.480 what do you

00:35:17.540 striders being needy all right well i don't know what you guys want to get into tonight there's a few

00:35:24.340 different topics that i've been you know dealing with or you know writing about i've been doing a

00:35:32.020 little bit more long form writing this week um like not having twitter means like when you write

00:35:41.280 on twitter it's the art of the one-liner and there's a reason why you know even though you can

00:35:47.640 go over the whatever it is 180 characters limit now there's a reason why you shouldn't and it's

00:35:53.220 because you want everything in that post to be in in those few lines like that's how you have the most

00:35:58.080 impact so communicating on twitter is basically the art of the one-liner and stoicism like how how can

00:36:04.760 i convey my point in as few words as possible that's that's the art of it um so i was doing that

00:36:10.320 for a long time and i feel like i got fairly good at that uh but i haven't done much long form

00:36:16.240 writing in a long time so i you know taking the opportunity to write stuff out more and especially

00:36:22.140 because i have to do some manual writing for the club so i'm kind of fleshing out ideas and

00:36:28.040 mapping out what i need to uh you know document for for those things

00:36:34.700 yeah there's a there's a few different things that i was uh writing about or thinking about this week

00:36:43.960 one of those is the the objections to the red ensign um okay that's enough strider go later

00:36:52.700 i don't understand it i don't understand where these these people come from um you know if you

00:37:03.820 follow me on telegram you guys uh might have seen it but uh well i'll answer sorry i'll answer odin's

00:37:08.740 no one says you guys going to write a manifesto for second sons canada fairy i don't think so

00:37:13.240 because like look internally eventually we we should have like very clear and outlined policies and

00:37:23.420 you know um positions on on a variety of topics and the reason for that is because uh that's what

00:37:31.020 you should be conveying to members of like this is this is what we're fighting for but i don't see

00:37:35.900 the advantage of projecting that uh to everybody and telling them um it would just be used against

00:37:43.660 us like they would they would use it as like i don't know i mean like to to outline our intentions

00:37:48.840 and try to make it out like we're um intending to commit violent acts of extremism or something so i

00:37:58.280 don't see it as being in our interest to do that publicly but uh privately like yeah getting guys

00:38:07.420 on the same page of what we're trying to achieve would be good um

00:38:11.340 but yeah i was talking about the uh the objections to the red ensign um i find it fascinating the people

00:38:22.860 not always there are some people who are very intelligent and have you know solid historical

00:38:31.580 foundational knowledge to to speak on this but the over like it seems like every time you come across

00:38:38.680 one of these people uh regarding the red ensign or things like the crown or you know canadian

00:38:44.640 identity they have zero the reason that they they say the things they say and they believe the things

00:38:51.260 they believe is because they don't have any knowledge at all about canada's origins other than very

00:39:00.860 uh superficial and minor things that were conveyed to them through a an education system that was

00:39:08.540 intentionally trying to value pluralism multiculturalism multiracialism etc you know egalitarianism

00:39:15.900 so that that aspect of it kills me and like this was you know the the clearest example i can give you of

00:39:25.460 that that you'll see you know coming up again and again is alberta separatists um some of them are

00:39:35.540 are knowledgeable for sure especially our guys like if they're uh more uh ideologically aligned to us

00:39:43.300 even if they are separatists like if they're you know alberta nationalists like ethnic nationalists

00:39:47.900 then yeah like they might have more knowledge about this stuff which is why they're ethnic nationalists

00:39:53.180 like they're just they get it more but typically when you see objections to things like the red ensign

00:39:58.880 the institution of the crown you know canadian ethnic identity all these things that that person who's

00:40:05.040 making those comments has absolutely zero historical knowledge prior to you know maybe the 1960s but

00:40:12.200 in some cases much later like an example of that he's not a separatist but somebody like truck driver

00:40:18.220 pleb yeah i don't think he has any historical knowledge about canada prior to 2015 like to him

00:40:24.840 that's whenever history started from what i can gather um and so that that's why they're able to say

00:40:31.560 things as asinine as fuck the red ensign you know fuck your crown symbol okay man every flag 0.94

00:40:41.680 with the exception of the modern like the 1965 you know red maple leaf in this country and i suppose

00:40:48.880 you could argue the territorial flags but look at the provincial flags they're all crown symbols or have

00:40:57.400 links to a crown symbol in some way british columbia it's a fucking union jack alberta's it's got a saint 0.86

00:41:06.020 george cross on it uh saskatchewan it's got an i believe it has a uh an english lion on it manitoba's

00:41:16.040 a red ensign ontario's a red ensign quebec sorry quebec would be another exception but that's

00:41:21.840 literally a a claim back to a different crown it's you know the the symbol of the french monarchy

00:41:27.960 new brunswick is literally like layered with uh crown imagery um a flag that was issued by the crown

00:41:35.420 prince edward island english lion nova scotia literally you know an inverted scottish flag with

00:41:40.860 with a rampant scottish lion like what aspect which which flag are you fucking talking about man 0.94

00:41:48.120 like what's name a canadian symbol that exists that doesn't have some sort of links to the crown

00:41:54.780 even things that they value like people are despairing over you know the the destruction of

00:42:00.260 the hudson's bay company and you know they're kind of um you know uh what's the term i'm looking

00:42:09.380 for uh grieving over the loss of this you know proud canadian entity you know it's one of the

00:42:17.280 like the oldest one of the oldest companies the oldest company in canada that's that was still

00:42:23.040 existed and the hudson's bay company was a crown corporation like it was literally it was a crown

00:42:30.440 endeavor like i don't i don't understand what these people are fucking talking about when they 0.95

00:42:36.200 you know say crown symbols and they object to it sorry i shouldn't say that i do understand but

00:42:41.540 like it boggles my mind that they don't see that um and the perfect example of this is something like

00:42:48.960 um or sorry the easiest way to you know explain what's going on in their head is that they don't

00:42:56.400 understand the difference between an institution and the person who occupies the institution so

00:43:03.300 they're frustrated with you know the crown uh and the people who occupy it and have occupied it you

00:43:09.840 know basically since the post-war era but you know they argue about some before

00:43:13.820 but the like the absurdity of of this approach is that like well do you have an issue with

00:43:20.740 richard the lionheart do you have an issue with you know queen elizabeth do you have an issue with

00:43:28.360 um

00:43:29.440 you know like any of the like edward the fourth like do you have issues with these people

00:43:36.940 like any of the great monarchs like you there's the same institution

00:43:44.920 it's basically like saying you know um yeah victoria would be another one like oversaw the 0.99

00:43:53.040 you know the the greatest empire the world has ever known um

00:43:57.160 basically the issue that these people are having is that imagine if a ceo of a company

00:44:04.920 okay did something horrible right there whatever they were in the epstein files right you find out

00:44:10.600 that the ceo was in the epstein files okay and your response isn't get rid of that that ceo that

00:44:18.100 person it's get rid of the ceo position from the company get rid of that position or imagine if like

00:44:26.480 you know um you know you're you support a sports franchise you support the maple leafs and you've got a

00:44:32.860 shitty coach and your response to having a shitty coach is get rid of the coach

00:44:38.060 it's just the coach is the a coach is the institution the person occupying the role doesn't

00:44:49.260 define the institution it's really not that complicated but yeah adam says things says that's

00:44:57.940 how marxists think exactly so denying your history your culture your heritage and the powerful 0.98

00:45:06.840 symbols associated with it because you're upset about who currently occupies uh you know figurehead

00:45:14.860 positions or even administrative positions within government and those institutions that's not

00:45:22.400 patriotism that's you're basically a useful idiot you know i listed this out too it's like okay you 0.71

00:45:32.700 want to get rid of crown symbols well you know let's start with the uk right because you know that's where

00:45:38.220 the most crown symbols are or the most things associated with the crown are tear down westminster abbey

00:45:43.240 blow up the tower of london you know burn down uh buckingham palace you know pit piss on the bayou 0.94

00:45:54.640 trap uh tapestry right that's what you should do right because those are all crap like they're

00:46:01.160 representatives of the crown you know and they always will be associated with that um so you must tear

00:46:07.300 down those powerful institutions because they're representative of a um you know an evil institution

00:46:14.480 or something like what a retarded take this is no different than the leftists who want to tear down 0.89

00:46:19.100 statues of robert e lee or something like that or tear down statues of john a mcdonald you're an idiot 0.95

00:46:24.180 you're a useful idiot um and then in canada it's like so what do you want to do you want to first of 0.87

00:46:30.540 all we talked about the flags so you want to get rid of crown symbols in canada okay start by getting

00:46:35.940 rid of every provincial flag essentially um and then tear down every you know institution

00:46:42.940 that has anything to do with the crown so parliament you know gone and that's going to sound attractive

00:46:48.620 to some people but you know basically you know every institution in canada is linked to the crown in some

00:46:56.040 way tear down every piece of infrastructure every building every bridge every um you know institution

00:47:03.020 everything that is named for or has any association to the crown and anybody who was uh you know an

00:47:11.060 administrative position on their behalf so you know rename simco uh rename you know get rid of 0.63

00:47:18.900 anything named after brock get rid of anything named after you know the great explorers

00:47:23.800 cartier got to get rid of that because you know he was an agent of the crown

00:47:28.500 tear down uh tear down uh all the statues that we built to the veterans of the boer war world war one

00:47:35.560 world war two uh even like you know korea even today even afghanistan you know military members swear

00:47:42.780 an oath to the crown right so get rid of all of the anything that honors them because they're crown

00:47:49.720 bootlickers right they were just you they were uh agents of a despotic and terrible institution

00:47:57.980 and honoring them is honoring the crown so get rid of the victoria's cross right like it just goes on

00:48:05.940 and on if you if you keep thinking about how many things in this country are directly are the way they

00:48:13.800 are directly because of the crown or are associated with the crown because uh of its involvement you

00:48:20.560 know in canada as a an imperial colony there's going to be nothing left and that's exactly the point

00:48:26.460 they they want you to do that you're you're tearing out all of the roots that made this place what it

00:48:32.360 was and allowing someone to come in and astroturf a different ideology values history on top of it

00:48:40.740 that's what they've been doing since the 60s you fucking morons and you're helping them

00:48:47.100 so yeah iconoclasm is a inherently uh leftist coded practice to engage in and it's odd to me that so

00:48:58.720 many right-wingers understand that you know denying and tearing down history uh even if you don't agree

00:49:06.040 with it is not a good practice because it destroys your connection to the past and makes you susceptible to

00:49:13.880 being guided somewhere that you don't want to go um and then there's so many canadians that just

00:49:21.400 don't understand this and they're just they're pig-headed about it um even if like even if you

00:49:26.180 reject the crown as an institution and you want to uh you know cut that tie with uh the the united

00:49:35.080 kingdom and you want um you know canada to not even symbolically be uh you know a you know if you

00:49:46.760 don't even want canada to symbolically have the crown as the sovereign then fine like i'm open to

00:49:52.500 that conversation but if you want to start ripping out every connection that we have to it because

00:49:58.100 you know your butt hurt and it triggers you like you're you're a child um so that like these symbols

00:50:04.700 go way beyond being crown symbols they're national symbols and ethnic symbols and they're powerful

00:50:12.540 and they matter so you shouldn't just throw them away all right um i'll go do some of these super chats

00:50:20.700 here uh brian 7316 says love the second son's video with the highland pipes and drums music makes the

00:50:38.960 video uh those guys did an awesome like well this is funny enough this is where we got a lot of these

00:50:44.780 responses this week which is why i mentioned it um a lot of people a lot of people love the red ensign

00:50:52.000 and then some people hate it um and typically they hate it because there's some people who genuinely

00:50:58.620 they agree with the principles behind the red ensign and they don't like it for aesthetic reasons

00:51:04.240 like they think that it could be even if it was to be used like one of the most common ones is like

00:51:09.860 okay but can we remove the union jack and just move you know the ensign coat of arms into the center of

00:51:17.160 the flag kind of similar to you know albertus flag and make that the you know the new you know canadian

00:51:23.860 flag and like i'm like yeah okay that's like a a reasonable um alteration that that comes from a

00:51:33.460 a correct historical understanding um

00:51:37.920 but yeah most people who object to it do it because they they don't know what the fuck they're talking

00:51:44.540 about uh brian 7316 gifted five subscriptions thanks so much man uh justice for fathers gifted

00:51:50.260 one subscription cheers dude and uh van gogh's ear 95 gifted five subscriptions thanks a lot man i think

00:51:57.200 he's got a uh um hey fairman have you ever read george grant's book lament of a nation some of it

00:52:06.740 yeah uh i get sent i think i have a copy of it i get sent i i recently started telling people when

00:52:14.920 they ask me if they can send me books to hold them until i go to jail and then send them to me in jail

00:52:20.760 where i'll actually have time to read them so yeah i've i've i'm familiar with it uh i haven't read

00:52:27.600 the whole thing i should be uh have read the whole thing but yeah at least do he says no i like it how

00:52:37.440 it is the ensign so do i um this was actually i have this right here actually because i made a uh

00:52:44.920 second son's post about it this week um this was going around and it was kind of causing a little

00:52:52.160 bit of a stir i think this is the reason earlier lee in the chat mentioned that people are doing

00:52:57.200 like a tier ranking list of uh you know provincial flags and uh the red ensign and the the maple leaf

00:53:03.620 and uh i think this is what actually kicked that off but uh this is uh from uh researchco.ca

00:53:12.520 50 percent of canadians think it is inappropriate for municipalities and provincial legislatures to

00:53:18.320 raise flags of foreign countries except the united kingdom while 27 percent consider the practice

00:53:24.880 inappropriate um so the the black pill in there is that 50 percent of canadians think it's

00:53:33.560 appropriate for municipalities and provincial legislatures to raise flags of foreign countries

00:53:38.920 i would like to see how the question was actually worded because i don't have a problem with that if

00:53:43.440 there's a legitimate foreign dignitary visiting right so so whatever if the you know if trump comes to

00:53:51.480 canada and it's for uh diplomatic purposes and there's going to be a discussion like you should

00:53:57.460 pay respect uh to the that foreign dignitary right like that's different than i think you know

00:54:03.420 obviously the way people are interpreting that which is um you know why are we flying palestinian

00:54:08.400 flags israeli flags iranian flags pan-african flight like why are we flying these things uh you know for

00:54:14.820 their foreign causes um that's not what our flagpoles should be used for but the the white pill here is 0.94

00:54:22.620 that the only exception to 50 percent of canadians uh thinking it's inappropriate for municipalities and

00:54:28.500 provincial legislatures to raise flags to foreign countries is that they make the exception for the

00:54:33.240 united kingdom which frankly is not controversial because technically and officially the union jack is

00:54:43.320 still a canadian flag it is flown in uh official uh you know context still to this day so flying

00:54:53.860 uh the the union jack or any you know british uh flag isn't really that controversial in canada because

00:55:02.420 it's it's legally and officially allowed

00:55:08.800 exactly 29 kilo says it best it's because the uk isn't foreign exactly that that's the the problem 0.98

00:55:17.560 with the context is that we shouldn't see ourselves as different from the united kingdom um

00:55:23.560 but as an extension of them

00:55:28.120 man on the mouse is i don't know man the black end sign is pretty freaking sick

00:55:43.280 yeah that's like a a war flag

00:55:46.680 you right you raise black flags typically signal no quarter right if i'm not mistaken like if you

00:55:55.380 have any kind of a flag that is on a field of black it's used in a context of you will not be given

00:56:01.780 quarter like it's a war flag so maybe there's exception like at least in the european context i'm

00:56:08.320 sure there's arab flags that don't uh have you know that approach or maybe there's other countries

00:56:13.180 that can see it but like um yeah it's like the opposite of a of a you know waving the white flag

00:56:19.860 of surrender it's like if you're waving the black flag it's me like we're not giving you a quarter

00:56:23.420 mo c9m says what the hell are our commonwealth graves doing in gaza yeah that actually is the

00:56:45.060 correct question a lot of people were pissed off and rightfully so that israel did their thing they 0.99

00:56:49.400 were bulldozing was it just can i didn't even really see the whole story but i know there was

00:56:53.960 canadian graves um but the the people are pissed off because you know those graves are being

00:57:02.960 desecrated very i've seen very few people ask the question of like hey why are there canadian graves

00:57:09.300 in gaza to begin with why are our soldiers buried in fucking you know the middle east like that 0.99

00:57:15.580 why why are our soldiers dying and spilling blood for fucking israel 1.00

00:57:24.460 ebp 97 says it was a british colony is that how is that what those graves are they go back to the

00:57:32.840 1919 you know british protectorate over palestine i don't think so but i don't know i i like again i

00:57:42.380 don't really pay that much attention to those stories um at least uses world war one world war

00:57:52.580 two is that what the graves were okay then that makes more sense i frankly i didn't realize that

00:57:58.200 there were canadian soldiers in uh palestine in that theater of the war um

00:58:04.800 uh importance no one says britain owned palestine at one point it was a protectorate of the british

00:58:12.760 empire so it wasn't it wasn't theirs but they had administrative control over it right

00:58:18.000 so yeah it was theirs but not you know officially um that that happened after world war one so when

00:58:25.080 the ottoman empire disbanded right it can the ottoman empire was composed of parts of north africa

00:58:31.920 modern day you know the area of the levant so syria jordan lebanon israel and palestine uh well it

00:58:40.200 wasn't sorry it was not israel at the time it was palestine um iraq uh the arabian peninsula

00:58:47.280 so that was the ottoman empire it collapsed during world war one and it was carved up predominantly by

00:58:57.180 the british and the french uh in the post-war era so yeah this is how iran came under the control of

00:59:03.960 the british lebanon came under control of the french i think syria was a french administrative

00:59:09.900 zone as well like it wasn't called these things at the time necessarily so but it was when they began

00:59:15.680 carving it up and uh the area that's now you know called israel was a british protectorate um so they

00:59:25.240 they had soldiers stationed there uh until after world war ii until you know the formation of the modern

00:59:34.160 state of israel so yeah um uh ebp97 says it was a mandate okay i i'm getting i could be getting the words

00:59:43.700 wrong but

00:59:44.260 uh why are we talking about that though oh yeah so i guess okay if there's canadian graves there because

01:00:11.500 they were you know they died serving in world war one or world war two that's interesting because i

01:00:16.540 genuinely didn't know that canadians were part of those operations i thought canadians were um

01:00:24.300 at least in world war one uh almost entirely uh

01:00:31.100 uh on the western front you know predominantly in uh flanders and the the belgium lines so

01:00:38.060 i didn't realize they were in africa or the middle east

01:00:47.900 the australians were i knew the australians were i just didn't know about the canadians

01:00:51.020 all right what other topics you guys want to get into um

01:01:06.940 i don't know i was going to revisit i think i talked about it last saturday

01:01:11.740 uh this kind of concept that i've been playing with of the anti-celebrity

01:01:16.060 uh raging distances the graves were from the late 40s to 60s from u.n missions okay so then they

01:01:24.380 weren't world war one world war two and why were they involved in that nonsense

01:01:29.980 i mean you could say why were they involved in the world war one world war two nonsense too but

01:01:34.460 especially after the fact like why were we involved in

01:01:37.180 uh fanny shrew says we can make fun of the winter olympics i mean i don't know how do you not see a 0.65

01:01:53.980 humiliating racial humiliation ritual when one's slapping you in the face like that

01:02:00.620 um it wasn't just them by the way i i saw a little bit of the you know opening ceremonies and the

01:02:06.940 different uh you know team outfits uh some of them were just as as as the canadians like

01:02:14.620 the germans were similar there's there's a bunch of them that had very similar like

01:02:18.860 basically you look like you're wearing a comforter or like a a duvet as a poncho

01:02:25.900 like you just look fucking awful and then there was others that were like oh that's just nice and 0.92

01:02:32.460 aesthetic and an actual uh you know actually in keeping with the culture and motifs of the nation

01:02:40.220 you know representing them canada's looks like well frankly it's a good representation of modern canada

01:02:49.820 which is like this brown slop you know this it's it's like a melting brown slop like that's what it

01:02:56.620 looked like um it looked like a fucking tim hortons cup that's been sitting you know full of coffee for 0.90

01:03:04.540 weeks and is starting to like leak and like you know dissolve like smush yeah that was a humiliation

01:03:11.420 ritual i don't i don't know what else you want to would call it i also don't get the point i thought the

01:03:17.660 entire point of manufacturing those outfits was you're making something that is sold to the public

01:03:25.260 like that's that's what i remember the winter olympics being like you know if they were made

01:03:30.060 by hudson's bay company uh the hudson's bay you could go buy the jackets or the sweaters or whatever

01:03:37.340 that the team was wearing at the department store and rep it that way and the idea was that

01:03:41.980 people would want to buy it who the wants to buy that coat 0.98

01:03:48.460 or like roots right roots did some of the winter olympics uniforms like you could buy

01:03:54.860 that stuff at roots and it was just like nice um you know practical clothing that that just looks

01:04:03.100 i don't i don't know why you would want that anyways you don't have to get on it's like we're

01:04:08.860 not this isn't a fucking fashion show so it doesn't really matter but it's just another example of an 0.96

01:04:14.700 obvious humiliation ritual and everybody hates it too who likes it you see what i mean like that's

01:04:23.980 whenever it's like an obvious humiliation ritual is nobody wants this and it's just being forced on

01:04:28.700 you anyways everybody knows it looks like shit everybody is saying like this is embarrassing 0.79

01:04:34.300 and they do it anyways like that's that's intentional at that point you know it's

01:04:39.260 intentional when it's like that they're not appealing to anyone and the only people that

01:04:44.620 they would be appealing to maybe if there's a small minority are the most degenerate like brainwashed

01:04:50.780 program pieces of shit that just like you know you could serve them anything and they'll gobble it up

01:04:56.780 and you know suck the regime's dick it's like the people who are defending it yeah they're 0.93

01:05:03.420 they're little regime uh drones

01:05:16.140 um i was going to go back though uh peacekeeping but in reality it was just a western buffer to

01:05:21.580 protect the new zionist state so not only did they die protecting israel jews bulldoze the 0.98

01:05:26.220 graves to make room for resorts and casinos yeah exactly even i saw a comment the other day and i

01:05:33.180 like a lot of people don't know this story but one of the reasons that canada wanted to change its flag

01:05:39.660 was because of its involvement in the suaz canal crisis as a p in a in a peacekeeping operation in the

01:05:46.620 1960s okay and there was issues with the canadian soldiers involved in that peacekeeping mission

01:05:55.580 because you know england was one of the belligerents in this issue right england had control over the

01:06:01.180 suez canal egypt wanted control over it because it's on their territory right so you know england

01:06:06.620 wasn't involved in the peacekeeping missions because they were one of the parties you know that that

01:06:10.940 peace needed to be kept with or whatever and so they sent a un force of you know countries to do it

01:06:17.500 and the egyptian regime took offense to the canadians and their uniforms because it had a union jack on it

01:06:29.180 so they didn't like that you know they were kind of like a british symbol and that is one of the things

01:06:34.460 that led to like the conversation around changing the flag was like pleasing some foreign you know

01:06:41.180 fucking government and not having the red end not not having the union jack on our uniforms

01:06:50.460 like how like how fucking pathetic 0.96

01:06:59.980 uh raging distances i had an officer that was in olympics well almost he got caught with hookers and 0.88

01:07:07.420 blow an olympic village and booted said the whole thing is a huge party of hot jack people being sluts 1.00

01:07:12.140 sounds all right i mean of course it is like people it gets spoken about a lot of time but like that

01:07:19.660 doesn't shock me at all um just imagine you're somebody who spends four years you know building up to

01:07:27.420 that moment right and so are all the other people involved living in that are the same thing and

01:07:35.020 there's some of the most eugenic and healthy and physically fit and exceptional individuals in their

01:07:45.260 respective uh sports and then you you complete your uh event or whatever and you stay until the end of

01:07:54.540 the until closing ceremonies obviously so you're just there with a whole bunch of other exceptionally

01:08:01.820 gifted people who are fucking hot like yeah of course that's gonna happen of course they're gonna 0.98

01:08:07.580 fucking smash like crazy um like and honestly that's a good thing sorry it would be good if they were making 0.86

01:08:14.380 babies um like that would be a you it would be like some kind of extremely eugenic um you know fertility 0.99

01:08:24.300 festival if they were actually making babies because they would just be producing like super athletes 0.99

01:08:29.420 so yeah it's not shocking uh scotia gentleman says and the biggest slap in the face when the current

01:08:35.740 hoochie mama of the day tate mccray pretends to be american in the nbc olympic commercial slut i mean i 1.00

01:08:41.500 don't yeah i don't really care i heard so i don't even first of all i don't even know who that is

01:08:47.500 and second of all i don't really care that a canadian artist is being featured in a commercial

01:08:51.500 for americans doesn't bother me uh raging distance says it's just hundreds of super fit people in their 0.77

01:08:56.540 20s locked together in a retreat village at peak performance partying and hooking up like crazy it's

01:09:00.700 basically a natsock breeding program sports is a cover yeah no no it should be i don't think that's a

01:09:08.380 a negative thing

01:09:20.140 jerry just said for sakes it takes so long to send chats over the phone and alex says the exact same

01:09:24.540 thing right as i press send yeah yeah that happens but we got synchronicity you know sorry

01:09:31.820 synchronicity you know the hive mind is real so you know

01:09:41.260 um where was i going to go to next though

01:09:45.580 uh i think i was going to talk about

01:09:59.420 oh yeah the anti-select well this kind of fits into this stuff and what scotian gentleman just said about

01:10:05.340 uh tate mccray

01:10:07.420 you know i'm not opposed to you you want to watch the olympics watch the olympics it happens once every

01:10:17.900 four years and it um it should be a healthy uh exercise in nationalism uh you know if it wasn't

01:10:27.580 astroturfed with global homo liberalism and diversity but yeah like well fake diversity 1.00

01:10:34.940 um but this this concept of the anti-celebrity that i brought up the i think it was last saturday

01:10:47.100 i saw it play out again this week and i don't necessarily want to get into

01:10:51.260 drama or that's happening in right-wing influencer sphere world but i kind of have to in order to

01:10:57.740 illustrate my point um so we're gonna do it a little bit and uh there's more than just these

01:11:08.380 examples but the two big ones that jumped out at me from the week since i first you know made that

01:11:12.940 little comment about you know anti-celebrities is the jake shields nick fuentes exchange and the elijah

01:11:21.740 shafer's sarah stock scandal um like this is a perfect example of what i'm talking about when i

01:11:31.820 say the anti-celebrity these people are not celebrities right they're not celebrities in

01:11:36.940 the traditional sense um but they're identical to celebrities in every meaningful way except one

01:11:46.620 so they're driven by prestige influence money fame you know uh affluence just uh you know self

01:11:59.420 aggrandizement those those are the things that motivate these people okay um

01:12:08.380 so no no different than your average celebrity right it doesn't matter what they're talking about

01:12:14.540 that's not that i'm saying separate the things that they talk about or the mediums you know that

01:12:19.420 they operate in separate that from how they actually function in in in application

01:12:26.620 they're virtually indistinguishable from your traditional celebrity the only difference that's

01:12:32.300 noticeable is that the anti-celebrity is only appreciated by people who reject the traditional

01:12:40.380 concept of the celebrity so basically the people who like anti-celebrities are the ones who understand

01:12:49.500 that hollywood is a is a nightmare and how it's being used against them and the the poison that it

01:12:58.620 pushes and how celebrities are fake and gay like they understand this about um you know the traditional 0.89

01:13:05.980 celebrity you know music industry movie industry um they see that right the problem is that

01:13:16.380 they're just replacing that was with a different version of it and so like i i bring this up because

01:13:26.700 um

01:13:27.020 um you can see how what they've done is replace uh traditional entertainment with this kind of

01:13:37.580 anti-entertainment it's entertainment that's masquerading as um a more high value and virtuous endeavor

01:13:49.100 so i think the easiest way i can explain this is that club night that uh you know sneeko tate

01:13:57.020 uh fuentes clavicular and i don't know whatever other faggots were there um 1.00

01:14:03.980 and i brought this up whenever i was whenever this happened but

01:14:08.380 it's just perfect to illustrate the point again

01:14:13.900 what was that

01:14:17.260 like i i know to a lot of people in our sphere they see that and they're like this is

01:14:23.580 fucking retarded like this is not what's you know what we're trying to do and they're correct obviously 1.00

01:14:30.780 but the reality is hundreds of thousands of young you know white nationalist

01:14:37.820 minded or pre you know men who are predisposed to nationalism watch that shit on a friday night 0.74

01:14:46.140 they sat around at computers or on their couches or whatever and they watched a stream of guys hanging

01:14:52.620 out you know drinking in limos going to a club and then celebrating you know some kind of dissident

01:14:59.660 victory because they played nigger hal hitler in a club 1.00

01:15:03.260 how is that that in terms of the mechanics of it how is that any fucking different to a dumb 0.94

01:15:18.700 fucking you know 20 year old thought sitting around and watching keeping up with the kardashians

01:15:24.220 how is it any different

01:15:30.540 it's the same the only difference is that in the the the instance with you know fuentes and the others

01:15:39.420 it's perceived as being against something like keeping up with the kardashians it's perceived as

01:15:45.740 being a like an event that's in opposition to hollywood you know something that is uh you know an act of defiance

01:16:01.020 and it's just think about it hundreds of thousands of young men watch that hundreds of thousands of

01:16:07.900 young men spent their weekend talking about it after imagine if all of those man hours had been

01:16:14.220 dedicated to actual you know grassroots organizing and nationalism think about how big of an impact

01:16:23.260 having that number of people dedicating their time to like a real you know real world endeavor than

01:16:29.980 watching celebrities or anti-celebrities hang out and go to a club

01:16:39.820 there's no difference

01:16:44.220 so the point i'm getting at here is that we have to get past these these anti-celebrities and

01:16:55.020 one of the reasons i'm framing it like that is because you'll often hear people say things like

01:17:00.700 you know fuentes or like pick one right it doesn't really matter who but for for this instance i'm just

01:17:05.340 going to use fuentes because he's an obvious one they'll say that fuentes is a fed they'll say that

01:17:09.340 he's controlled opposition they'll call him a de-radicalization agent they'll say uh you know

01:17:15.100 he's a subversive like there's all these kinds of terms that can be used to apply to like it's in the

01:17:23.100 same you know ballpark but it's not accurate i don't think nick fuentes is controlled opposition

01:17:30.460 i don't think he's actively being controlled by someone maybe there's an argument for that if he took

01:17:35.740 that jew gold deal but whatever um i don't think he's intentionally being subversive he met you could

01:17:43.180 argue that he is subversive right by the things that he says but i don't think he's doing it

01:17:49.340 intentionally i don't think he's like he he's um i don't think he's a fed i don't think he's intentionally

01:17:57.740 being a de-radicalization agent i think that that's just like him acting with his own agency

01:18:04.140 and the reason that he gets the attention and promotion that he does is because of those facts

01:18:13.820 that he isn't those things i'm sorry the reason that he gets the attention and promotion that he does

01:18:21.500 is because he's not an actual threat he talks about things that are you know potentially dangerous

01:18:29.980 to the regime but only if it translates into real world organization and you can see this illustrated

01:18:38.060 you know with who is allowed to have a twitter account and who is not i'm banned on twitter

01:18:44.540 russo's banned on twitter all the australians are banned on twitter mark collett's banned on twitter

01:18:52.700 nordic resistance movement's banned on twitter like we've talked about this this pattern before but you

01:18:59.100 know once you reach a certain size and you are organizing actively that's when you get the axe that's

01:19:05.980 when you get nuked talking about the problems isn't a threat in fact it can be used to the advantage

01:19:14.460 of the side who you know who is ostensibly the person that you're opposing when you talk about

01:19:21.340 those things if you're never going to advise your followers to organize

01:19:28.860 so this is this is a new evolution in the world of controlled opposition subversion

01:19:35.580 de-radicalization this is a newer concept and the way that you can think about it is

01:19:43.900 these people aren't direct like they have agency over themselves they're not necessarily being directed

01:19:49.340 to do what they're doing the reason they're amplified by the system is because their motivations

01:19:58.860 are ones that are of self-interest andrew tate talks about a lot of things that matter to us

01:20:06.220 he's not going to organize people to actually push back in the opposite direction he's not going to

01:20:13.180 risk his own wealth comfort you know anything to help us

01:20:20.700 fuentes is the same all of these people are the same they're they're not collectively interested they're

01:20:28.780 self-interested and that's why they get amplified in ways that you know a joel davis or a thomas sewell

01:20:38.140 or any of these people wouldn't be because if somebody is self-interested then they're not a threat

01:20:45.500 because they're always going to default to what's best for them so the moment that they're at risk of

01:20:49.660 losing something they will pull away and not pursue that that path um

01:20:59.980 and the way that the system amplifies them is not in the traditional sense he's not being promoted

01:21:05.260 he's being attacked it's not an accident it's on purpose it's a very uh

01:21:15.500 it's a very uh cunning and subtle way of amplifying someone by the system without you know revealing

01:21:26.300 that the system wants them to be amplified they attack a lot of obviously they attack you know

01:21:33.660 people who are genuinely dedicated to the movement and trying to organize right they do but they

01:21:40.380 attack these people in a in a different way and it's about blowing up their name as big as possible

01:21:46.700 and the reason is because they can turn these people into perceived leaders of the movement

01:21:53.100 by making them bigger than they necessarily would be if they weren't being amplified

01:21:59.180 so to to illustrate this point i'll use the trucker convoy who was the leader of the trucker convoy or

01:22:09.500 who was presented as being the leader of the trucker convoy and the answer is tamera leach primarily right

01:22:15.980 like she was ended up being the figurehead of the trucker convoy right why

01:22:23.020 well the the reason that she became known is because she started to go fund me and the reason

01:22:34.060 that she became the figurehead of the trucker convoy is because the media made it that way

01:22:41.340 so they can give you a leader simply by amplifying someone that they want to and not

01:22:48.940 you know giving attention to people they don't want to be perceived as leaders

01:22:53.820 they're providing you know they're saying this person is the most uh influential of this kind of

01:23:01.340 politics that's a signal to people who are predisposed to those kinds of politics that they should listen to

01:23:08.380 that person i hope that makes sense and i'm still trying to play with this concept and you know

01:23:29.420 provide more evidence and examples of it yeah turn off your teeth says they provide the hero yeah and

01:23:35.740 they do it in a very it's different so somebody mentioned tommy robinson this is different this

01:23:42.220 is a hundred percent different uh to to what tommy robinson is tommy robinson is controlled

01:23:47.740 opposition like that term applies a hundred percent to tommy robinson it's accurate but calling tate or

01:23:55.020 uh sneeko or somebody like that or fuentes calling them controlled opposition is incorrect um they're not

01:24:03.500 controlled they don't need to be controlled it's not about guiding their message it's about

01:24:09.980 understanding that as long as these people are the ones that are being followed and listened to and

01:24:16.140 perceived as being the intellectual leaders and the uh spiritual leaders of you know nationalist movements

01:24:23.820 or you know anti-establishment movements or you know anti-semitism insert any anything that the

01:24:30.460 the system genuinely rejects they want to amplify certain individuals who are never going to advocate

01:24:40.140 for organization and opposition directly

01:24:47.180 and that's why certain people get picked so this this is one example of you know the anti-celebrity and

01:24:54.140 then you can see how this plays out the exact same way that celebrity drama plays out jake shields and

01:25:00.380 nick fuentes right they had a little spat this week and if i was laughing at it because even though i can

01:25:06.460 see what it is um and that it's not really relevant and you know it doesn't really matter it was funny

01:25:13.900 watching them go back and forth uh particularly because you know how many times has this happened with

01:25:19.660 fuentes where he works with someone and then he whatever there's some minor disagreement and it

01:25:25.420 turns into you know a busted friendship um you know joel davis keith woods although him and keith

01:25:31.180 seem to have uh rekindled their friendship or whatever but over and over again this happens right

01:25:36.780 um with him like you know 109 friendships ruined and not one of them was fuentes's fault right um

01:25:44.300 um but even that so a whole bunch of people are just going back and forth over that exchange

01:25:53.980 and what is that that celebrity drama neither of those people are organizing anything i by the way

01:26:01.980 i like jake shields i appreciate that jake shields has given our guys uh you know a platform and whatnot

01:26:07.900 so like i'm not trying to denigrate jake i'm just saying objectively jake is not a leader of

01:26:14.460 anything and nick is not a leader of anything either despite you know his claims to the contrary and

01:26:21.580 that you know he's the head of america first or something there's no there's no actual structure

01:26:27.900 organization there's no legitimate function going on there it's all you know cultural and uh you know

01:26:34.220 behind the scenes we're making moves i don't know maybe they are but you know it's not something the

01:26:38.620 average person could just join up with and support and get involved in activism so there's no

01:26:43.500 scalability to it um and it depends basically on a few key people i suppose getting into

01:26:51.180 influential positions with which in within government which perhaps is a possibility but

01:26:57.340 the point is i'm saying that he what is he a leader of

01:27:01.660 an online movement yeah that's fine that's not a threat

01:27:04.860 um so the point i'm getting at with this exchange is that people perceive it as being

01:27:13.980 infighting or something worth paying attention to because these people are perceived as being

01:27:19.020 uh leaders of the movement right or the opposition or whatever and they're simply not

01:27:25.580 um and what ends up happening is that the people who aren't leaders are the ones who are getting all

01:27:33.900 of the attention and engagement and um they're they're vacuuming up a lot of the resources within

01:27:41.580 you know this sphere of politics and culture um

01:27:45.260 um while the actual leaders the actual people trying to build stuff are are very rarely given

01:27:56.060 the credibility or attention that they deserve they're not given the support they deserve and they're

01:28:00.780 perceived as being secondary to um you know that the influencers of the move the movement quote unquote

01:28:08.620 i'll give you an example right more people know who jake shields is and consider him to be you know

01:28:17.660 somebody you know leading you know the the well i don't know what you'd call it the truth about israel

01:28:26.540 kind of movement the the anti-semitist movement or the you know um rejection of uh

01:28:34.860 however you want to frame it right he's perceived as being somebody who is

01:28:38.620 uh influential within it more so than the people that he interviews so he's interviewed joel davis

01:28:45.500 he's interviewed thomas sewell he's interviewed thomas russo he's interviewed david duke he's like

01:28:52.460 he's interviewed arville right these are all people that are genuine leaders of actual you know organizations

01:29:00.060 and movements and they're the ones that are perceived as being uh you know lesser than

01:29:08.540 jake shields jake shields jake shields is given more credibility and attention than than they are

01:29:14.380 and that's the problem there's an inverse of who should be respected within you know these circles

01:29:22.460 and who should be considered support the content creators the influencers the podcasters the you know

01:29:30.860 any of these types they're a support role it's their job to amplify the guys who are risking their

01:29:39.420 necks trying to organize real organ like real associations real clubs real networks real like 0.56

01:29:47.100 legitimate things okay the the media shouldn't be the one calling the shots

01:29:54.460 it should be supporting the guys who are actual leaders so there's a there's a a an imbalance in

01:30:02.140 the power dynamics between those two sides and another example of that too is like i know i've been

01:30:09.900 dragging on here and i don't want to go on about this all night but i hope this is coming across you

01:30:13.900 know i hope you're getting this because i do feel like this is actually very important another example of

01:30:18.780 this that we saw this week is elijah shaffer and sarah stock and how much attention went into that

01:30:25.660 and you know dunking on her and you know back and forth with him and like it just went you know on and

01:30:32.060 on you see it ever like my feed on twitter was just sarah stock elijah shaffer after that story broke

01:30:37.820 from that faggot milo yiannopoulos right um i get it it's scandalous 1.00

01:30:44.300 but who cares why do you care sarah stock is not a fucking leader she's a ladder climbing ethot 1.00

01:30:59.020 if you didn't know that she was fake and if and you know all of that was an act then you weren't

01:31:05.660 paying attention to the things that she was saying when she was for first broke out onto the scene and

01:31:10.540 got a shitload of attention i gave her the benefit of the doubt at first and within a month i knew

01:31:16.700 that she was completely fucking fake yeah if people don't know like maybe everybody's not familiar 0.72

01:31:25.500 sarah stock was a christian e-girl who was trying to become an influencer and you know was doing the

01:31:32.140 i'm a virgin i'm gonna be a young married trad wife i'm gonna have tons of kids and be a loving doting

01:31:38.380 wife blah blah blah had her marriage to her fiance blessed by the fucking pope right did the catholic 0.98

01:31:46.140 trad larp all that shit and the entire time up until the day she got engaged to her fiance 1.00

01:31:51.820 she was fucking elijah shaffer who was her boss 1.00

01:32:00.300 the point is if you didn't know what she was you weren't paying attention

01:32:04.380 because it was very obvious there's just always inconsistencies with her ideology

01:32:12.300 that is a a very good indicator of someone being fake whenever they are trying to appeal to different

01:32:19.820 niches within the wider dissident right so they're trying to appeal to the the you know the chat uh

01:32:27.020 catholic trads they're trying to appeal to the homesteaders they're trying to appeal to the national

01:32:32.220 socialists they're trying to appeal to you know the the white identitarians they're like all of these

01:32:37.500 people they're trying to appeal to all these different little groups and their message is

01:32:41.580 always slightly tailored so that it's perceived as being in agreement with them so like that's that's

01:32:47.900 the indicator when someone's fake guys whenever they're constantly uh it's beyond code switching

01:32:55.340 it's like minor ideological it's like shifting they're constantly shifting ideological positions

01:33:01.660 slightly to uh gain an audience or gain uh you know support from uh various little niches that

01:33:11.100 they otherwise might not and so that's that's what she was doing and that was obvious elijah shaffer

01:33:17.740 and by the way she was she exhibited all the behaviors of ladder climbing very early on so this

01:33:22.780 should have been obvious she worked for rebel news then she got on jubilee then she got picked

01:33:27.980 up by rift tv which is elijah shaffer's and she got connected with hermes and she's you know she's

01:33:33.180 you know trying to ingratiate herself with fuentes uh all these things like these this is classic ladder 1.00

01:33:38.540 climbing behavior elijah shaffer was again a podcast host yeah he's he's kind of funny and uh he talked to

01:33:48.460 some of our guys and he had uh you know like he hosted that debate between joel davis and uh drew pavloo

01:33:55.260 like yeah he did some good stuff but again who fucking cares like really that he was an adulterer 0.84

01:34:06.220 i don't care because elijah shaffer is not a fucking leader of the movement 0.96

01:34:14.860 he's a podcast host it's his job to ample why do i care that the guy like that he gave a platform

01:34:23.180 to joel and seoul and uh i think russo at one point as long as he was doing that i don't care because i

01:34:31.020 wouldn't care if you know fresh and fit gave them a platform or i wouldn't care if uh you know the

01:34:37.740 whatever podcast gave them a platform i don't they're not fucking leaders they're not the important 0.96

01:34:43.660 aspect of that conversation it's the the guys who are actually doing shit so that's this is the point

01:34:50.300 is like people can conflate influencers and content creators with actual activists and leaders of the

01:34:58.860 movement and they have the value of them backwards and so they get sucked into this like who gives a

01:35:04.780 shit they're just another anti-celebrity they're not that important and guys there's yeah elijah 0.67

01:35:11.660 shaffer was good and maybe he's ruined but there's a lot of other podcasters that i'm sure are going to

01:35:15.900 try to fill his place you know there will be another lauren southern sarah stock you know who's 1.00

01:35:22.940 going to be the next one we'll find out but this isn't anything new stop acting like these people

01:35:30.220 matter they they don't what's up dude dude that drama has been awesome sorry that drama has been

01:35:38.860 awesome it's scandalous but it's been funny to watch like yeah i think sarah's massad and now

01:35:49.340 it was just a plant to destroy elijah and she's gonna make bank now when she opens up her only fans 0.94

01:35:56.700 um i think elijah from i i knew some things about elijah and again i don't care but um i think he

01:36:05.660 was on a path to destroying himself one way or another i didn't care for him like he was a podcast

01:36:11.420 host to me i don't most of the people you talked about i don't care for like but that's what that's

01:36:16.700 what i'm saying is yeah we don't care for them but a lot of people put a lot of attention and effort

01:36:23.020 behind talking about these people okay and i like i'm a hypocrite because i've just done that but the

01:36:27.740 whole point of me going through you know that stuff that happened this week isn't because i want to talk

01:36:33.340 about their drama it's because i want to illustrate that um we need to kill the anti-celebrity or at least

01:36:40.060 put them back in their place it's going to happen slowly i mean it's going to happen with when they

01:36:45.820 platform the wrong people and that put them in their place i think because they're still useful

01:36:50.140 they have the people's attention so it's like you got to beat the king to be be the king sort of thing

01:36:56.460 look the i guess the point is something like um when you tune into a a talk show host like the

01:37:11.980 the whole point of it is the person that they're talking to the talk show host is a conduit to expose

01:37:20.060 you to different figures different uh you know intellectuals or whatever it may be the they're the

01:37:28.380 important part of it and then the the person holding the conversation is you know basically a glorified

01:37:35.340 uh middleman yeah i like being that person i i think i'm good at being that person because

01:37:43.260 to interview somebody it's about the other person this is yeah and by the way this isn't to denigrate

01:37:49.020 people who are doing legitimate work when it comes to media obviously media is incredibly important

01:37:54.540 you know content creation yeah of course these things are important but again it's just a matter

01:37:58.700 of like the priorities or the the valuation is so skewed where you know so many people know who

01:38:08.140 like you know various content creators are in america right and then the number of people who

01:38:13.020 are familiar with what you know thomas russo is relative proportionally completely out of whack

01:38:19.100 way more people should know who russo is than like say this isn't you know shot at hermes but he came

01:38:24.300 to mind like hermes right yeah well he's not for himself of course of course he's doing well he's

01:38:31.340 creating some great content and like he's gotten some you know funny things and he's bringing he's

01:38:36.140 like you know he's having a uh an effect in a way that you know is refreshing and kind of new but but

01:38:44.140 he's a content creator he's a comedian like he's not he's not going to lead any kind of uh genuine

01:38:51.580 resistance movement on his own he could be part of one but no i get that i i saw him actually go through

01:38:57.900 that he did a thing i'm in miami or somewhere like that everybody come down we're gonna do this thing

01:39:03.020 and like granted like 30 people did show up but it wasn't what he wanted you know what i mean but

01:39:11.660 no i've a lot of the people that are watching those folks are watching to be entertained as well they're

01:39:18.220 not looking for an outlet that that's what so this is right there is the key to to summarizing everything

01:39:25.820 that i was just talking about when it comes to the this concept of the anti-celebrity that i'm getting

01:39:30.460 at is that the problem with the anti-celebrity is that the people who are watching them

01:39:37.660 think that they're engaging in some kind of dissident or uh def defiant rebellion yeah uh action

01:39:50.140 against the regime when they're just being entertained that's the problem is like there's

01:39:57.340 this they think that they're beyond you know such petty things as like you know slop entertainment and

01:40:03.980 you know that they have like a higher um they have a higher pr like they have higher principles

01:40:11.340 than you know somebody who watched i gave the example earlier you know if like i said there's

01:40:17.260 no difference between watching keeping up with the kardashians and clavicular and fuentes and sneko

01:40:23.100 and the tate brothers go to a club it's the exact same thing but the people who

01:40:28.460 watched the the tate's nico fuentes thing think that they are doing something superior to somebody

01:40:34.940 who watches mindless television and they're not so it's this it's this it's it's entertainment

01:40:44.380 masquerading as defiance yeah i gotta do some of these it still has to go through the mainstream

01:40:54.220 though like a lot of the clips i've seen on uh tick tock and just when i'm doom scrolling is guys in

01:41:02.380 chat rooms for video games and the they're slinging around nowadays it's just

01:41:07.100 wild compared to what we were doing again i was talking about this and i jumped in the canadian

01:41:12.860 nationalist round table chat that the blonde bigot does on thursdays um a couple nights ago and like 1.00

01:41:19.820 but yes there's this of course awareness is good people talking about these things are good reaching

01:41:26.300 different larger audiences is good but if it's never paired with you know okay and what are we

01:41:32.860 going to do about it how are we going to organize against it if that never comes up and it's just

01:41:38.540 talk talk talk you know more more information that's that's not actually doing anything and that

01:41:45.820 leads to like analysis paralysis or basically being in this state where you're constantly consuming

01:41:51.980 content thinking that it's doing something but it's not but you can put the same thing in your

01:41:58.460 your team name and i'll have the same team name and that's organizing their own video games

01:42:03.980 yeah that's the extent of their organizing another way i could say i've used this this uh you know

01:42:10.300 joke before but it's underpants gnomes step one awareness step two step three victory like that's

01:42:21.500 not a plan another example of i i every time you talk about the underpants gnomes now i think of joe

01:42:28.460 and the canada first movement that he's calling it and he's going on all these different podcasts

01:42:34.060 talking about points from five years ago it's almost like whatever he learns that day does a video on it

01:42:40.300 so sorry i'm going to do some of those super chats here justice for fathers gifted a subscription

01:42:50.860 cheers man um

01:42:56.700 uh raging dissident says you have fans we have soldiers exactly well again that's part part of

01:43:02.300 the reason why i think like look if you don't think that fuentes and tate and like a lot of these

01:43:08.060 people are like clavicular is one for sure that's being amplified uh by algorithms uh across all

01:43:14.700 platforms if you don't see that you're a fucking idiot they're not being suppressed in the algorithms 0.97

01:43:20.620 they're being amplified why that's the question you should ask why are they amplifying these people the

01:43:27.420 way they are you you think it's because you know twitter is amplifying fuentes and amplifying clavicular

01:43:34.860 because they're a threat to the system really well i think a lot of their the size of their audience

01:43:41.100 also comes from other countries um it's not just the americans watching them i think

01:43:48.540 it boosts their algorithm with a bunch of indians watching tate and sneeko and these mutts basically 1.00

01:43:54.940 but yeah the the whole purpose of it is they don't care about like i want to like i would never even

01:44:07.020 put it this way but let's say hypothetically i want to grow a huge following why because i want to be able

01:44:12.780 to you know access that following and have uh communication with them to get them involved and

01:44:20.140 try to bring them into you know real world activism like the reason that we would want to have a let's

01:44:25.980 say with the club why do we want a big following on twitter with the club or on any social media outlet

01:44:32.060 it's not to have a following it's to have more access to potential people that would join up and

01:44:37.580 help us build the club whereas why why do most influencers or the anti-celebrity why do they want a 0.66

01:44:44.780 large following so they can make more money so that they can get more prestige so that they can do

01:44:50.460 bigger interviews with more well-known people so that they can ladder climb they're not trying to

01:44:56.220 mobilize their followers they're trying to accrue them for their own self-interest it's a huge difference

01:45:02.780 um yeah anyways that's enough on that i might try to write something out about the anti-celebrity

01:45:17.980 because i actually i genuinely think that that's a like not to jerk myself off or pat myself on the

01:45:22.860 back but i actually do think that that is the correct way of framing you know what a lot of these

01:45:27.100 individuals are and i don't know that anybody has framed them in that context like they always like

01:45:34.860 i said earlier you'll hear people say they're controlled opposition or the radicalization

01:45:39.820 agents or subversion no it's not because they platform certain people for their own self-interest

01:45:45.580 like i've seen ryan dawson on with sneko and like uh i just saw a gypsy crusader on with that 0.51

01:45:52.140 that ethan is that his name aiden aiden ross yeah the jew runs kick yeah yeah he was on with uh gypsy 0.98

01:46:03.740 crusader and that crossover is huge to be honest like because he has a huge viewership and if they're

01:46:09.740 going over to gypsy like being introduced to him so it's useful in that sense i know why dawson was

01:46:16.140 trying to get the attention of tate because tate could just grant him a wish and now he's funded to

01:46:22.540 do his research and whatever he wants so i kind of understood that but oh yeah i think i think you're

01:46:34.540 correct on that and then also just one other point to you are we just got are we just is everybody going

01:46:39.420 to ignore the fact that jake shields said multiple times this week that he knows for sure like he has

01:46:48.540 witnessed his own eyes that nick went down and like he just said that he said i know for a fact that nick

01:46:58.060 is because of something i witnessed and i kept it to myself because i didn't think it mattered that much

01:47:05.100 and nick was doing good work but fuck him now like jake said that got like we're just gonna pretend 0.97

01:47:11.980 what was it it doesn't matter anymore because we kissed and made up he's not gay anymore did some

01:47:16.380 takesie backsies what are you are you a fucking liar jake were you just saying that to you know attack 0.99

01:47:22.540 nick's credibility because you weren't friends anymore or did you actually and now you're just

01:47:27.180 withholding the truth because you want to be on good terms with puentes again like either way that's 1.00

01:47:32.780 not good like i like again i like jake and what i don't know i still think he's right though the next

01:47:38.700 game well i'm sure that he is now that he's like that was the one like okay if jake is saying for

01:47:44.940 sure he is and i know for a fact because i saw it all right well what was it you want to explain or

01:47:51.100 you just gonna no we're just gonna just memory hold that just forget that that happened if it's true

01:47:56.460 milo will let it out one day well milo's made the accusations before but he doesn't have evidence

01:48:03.500 from what i've seen if it's out there milo will be the one that guy's an absolute scoundrel how

01:48:11.660 anybody would think confiding in that guy about anything is a good idea you're an idiot in the

01:48:17.100 first place so it almost seems contrived why does fucking milo have all these fucking 0.95

01:48:22.620 are they trusting milo or are they trusting somebody who is working for milo and they don't

01:48:28.860 realize oh i don't know it's so gay it doesn't really matter but yeah well yeah milo yiannopoulos 0.62

01:48:36.220 is not like look sure he exposed the truth but he's he's a slime ball piece of like 0.70

01:48:44.620 his whole thing is like let me dig up whatever i can about any like anybody who's influential on the

01:48:50.060 right wing and ruined them like basically he's a he's like a jew he is yeah i mean he i mean literally 0.95

01:48:58.460 is but that's like dude he's the worst yeah i mean that was pretty that was pretty scandalous what he

01:49:09.740 broke you know this week but still like yeah always i never looked it doesn't bother me in the slightest

01:49:17.100 that any of those people got embarrassed and don't want to i would still watch

01:49:22.140 if he had good guests i'd still watch his show uh fanny shrew is saying it wasn't aiden it was i

01:49:28.380 hypocrite and then snitter says gypsy ran into aiden ross on a chat app i don't think they had a show 0.81

01:49:36.620 together okay well it wasn't a show they talked for a good 50 minutes so but gypsy's a good example 1.00

01:49:43.260 though too of like i don't look he's just i don't think he's portraying himself as anything other

01:49:48.860 than a comedian no that's just i've said this before about ht it's like dude that i watch that

01:49:55.580 guy for entertainment every once in a while like yeah ht at least was different like i don't think

01:50:03.740 he's doing that much of it anymore but the difference with ht was that he was genuinely trying

01:50:09.020 yeah you know what he was he did do real life stuff and it was yeah he was putting a lot of

01:50:14.140 effort into it for sure so he was somewhat of a leader in his own community but still

01:50:17.900 for up here as canadians i think i'm watching as entertainment gypsy i only ever considered nick

01:50:26.140 entertainment but yeah i i think but the difference is that nick claims himself to be a leader and a

01:50:33.340 figurehead of a movement whereas i don't gypsy's never done that the guy is able to talk circles 0.99

01:50:39.340 around people like he does have a high verbal iq that there's no doubt about it oh he's very intelligent

01:50:45.020 but yeah gypsy is just like the reason i don't care about the drama around i don't know his his

01:50:51.260 lineage or is like guys he's a comedian like why like i don't i don't have time uh to freak out about

01:51:00.700 whether or not he's part g like i don't care he's not you want to watch him watch him you don't want 0.95

01:51:07.340 to watch him don't watch him like it's literally like he's a tv show turn off the channel if you don't

01:51:12.220 want to watch it i want to talk to the guy one day for sure it's interesting what happened to him man

01:51:18.540 fucking i guess is the way he is like the joker is a perfect character for him

01:51:28.380 uh van gogh's ear says do you guys ever write on substack in my opinion is the last frontier of

01:51:33.100 online intellectual thought funny enough somebody else told me this week that i should start a sub

01:51:38.220 sub stack if i'm going to be doing long more long form writing um so like i i might consider it uh

01:51:50.620 just bite the bullet into your problem so i explained it like the problem with long form

01:51:55.580 writing look yes it is a a higher caliber of uh you know intellectual discussion it is

01:52:05.500 you know a more um a more uh aristocratic if you want to use that word or something like that

01:52:17.020 way of communicating your thoughts the problem with it is i could sit and write a sub let's let's say i

01:52:24.300 take a day and i write a sub stack essay and i like i could do that and you know properly annotate it and

01:52:30.460 you know organize it my thoughts and write out a big long thing right or whatever 1500 words 2 000

01:52:36.940 words something like that okay um and it would be perfect like there would be like you know there's

01:52:42.700 no fat there's no redundancy there's no you know going over and over the same things like where you

01:52:49.100 like you do in these kinds of you know video discussions um it's just all there and the problem

01:52:56.220 with it is that i don't know maybe 50 people would read it uh maybe more people would but

01:53:01.740 would a thousand people read it would two thousand people read it and the reason i am framing it like

01:53:07.340 that is because i just explained that i could take a day like literally an entire day and write a really

01:53:13.660 good quality you know long form chapter opinion piece or something and very few people would read it

01:53:19.500 whereas i can fire up a live stream and just go for two and a half or three hours or whatever and do

01:53:25.020 the exact same thing and more people will watch it than they will take 10 minutes to read an essay

01:53:32.060 so is it or you can package it the way that modern people do and instead like take a day write a

01:53:38.060 chapter and then before you know it there's 10 chapters together and you've done a book sell it

01:53:43.340 and then it's worth something you have a copy and it's actually an accomplishment if you ask me just

01:53:47.900 to go through the course of doing that i say you should man i've been saying it for a couple years

01:53:52.620 trying to push you to do it i just i don't know exactly what topic so like right now long form

01:53:57.820 writing makes more sense because i am doing manuals and uh stuff for the club so i'm just

01:54:03.260 fleshing out thoughts that are related to those manuals and it's basically you know mapping out um

01:54:09.820 you know you know it's organizing my thoughts for that process but it it's not gonna

01:54:15.740 be coherent as a book you know what i'm saying you just have to find a way to work it together

01:54:22.780 if it's your biography or something or whatever it is but i one of the funniest moments from the

01:54:27.420 tour to me was that when we're in nova scotia at our last show and we're out in the smoking area

01:54:32.780 at this cabana thing and the one guy we were chirping back and forth whatever it was so it was the end of

01:54:37.500 the trip we'd had enough of each other at that point and we're chirping back and forth and the guy

01:54:42.620 uh said oh yeah can you sign mine and i signed his book and he goes oh yeah where's yours and

01:54:47.740 i just started laughing because it was like a chirp yeah it was funny i don't know it was just the way

01:54:54.220 it was timed because we were chirping at each other then he turned to you and said oh can i get yours

01:55:00.620 yeah it was funny so now like i could do this the substack thing for sure and look at you know more

01:55:08.220 potentially i don't know turning into a book or whatever but like is it worth the the time and

01:55:13.500 effort that it would take to do it maybe but i don't know i'm just going to keep doing the kind

01:55:17.980 of writing that i have been for now and then we'll see um plebator destroyer gifted uh five 0.97

01:55:24.220 subscriptions thanks man good to see in the chat uh what else did he say there

01:55:28.620 plebator destroyer says nick is a rat but he's not gay i mean i didn't think he was gay on like i 0.92

01:55:38.700 know people like gay is the obvious way of framing it but i thought it was something more like asexual

01:55:44.060 or like some kind of weird you know like basically he's just

01:55:52.940 i don't know just not heteronormative you know what what we would describe as a traditionally

01:55:58.220 heteronormative or something like that uh but jake is saying that he's gay and he he saw it with his 0.55

01:56:03.660 own eyes so what are you supposed to take were you lying jake or were you telling the truth and now you

01:56:09.100 just don't want to you know explain what you were talking about it's totally gay anyways it's just 0.69

01:56:14.220 like a i don't know if it's really that uh white bitch triple six's right wing sphere is all nons 1.00

01:56:21.260 laughing my ass off what the well again this is the problem with you know this concept of the 0.83

01:56:26.780 anti-celebrity is they're being given to you um by the regime and so they're the ones who are like

01:56:37.420 like sneeko is amplified and he's talking about things that are relevant to us and so he's you

01:56:44.300 know pushed as being one of us basically and obviously that's not and then the problem with

01:56:50.060 it is the other anti-celebrities that are you know actually that are actually white they talk to him

01:56:56.140 because they want exposure from him and so that reinforces the credibility that sneeko is somebody

01:57:01.740 who is on our team or something like that or that the tate brothers are on our team you see this

01:57:06.380 with things like um like if he was like him talking to fuentes right um it basically just dilutes and

01:57:17.420 devalues the entire uh ideology that they claim to be representing so um there's one more in here

01:57:26.060 justice for fathers gives the uh double lightning bolts cheers man

01:57:29.740 all right we're caught up did i i think i missed one from good effing sorry man i'm gonna scroll way up

01:57:37.820 here and

01:57:45.740 holy fuck i did uh good effing shirts says appreciate the stream brother keep up the good work dope shirt 0.85

01:57:53.260 by the way yeah so uh good effing shirts he's in the chat there right now uh yeah you can find him on

01:58:01.980 twitter or you can find his links to his website on twitter but he makes some like pretty cool you know

01:58:07.580 canadian nationalist kind of uh apparel and things like that it's it's a really nice design too and good

01:58:14.140 quality so uh you know he sent me that but i i've seen other people pick up this shirt too so good stuff

01:58:28.060 all right i don't know what else people want to get into i think that was most of the things that

01:58:32.220 i wanted to talk about um trying to make a book cover for you how i became canada's biggest white

01:58:41.020 nationalists but it won't let me do it um that's what you should do and just have a face where it's

01:58:49.820 just you and your bald head and that's it if i if i was interested in writing a book at this point

01:58:56.060 it would probably be something about um like the active club model or well yeah exactly but you have to

01:59:07.660 um you would have to talk about a lot more about that why the active club model is the only way

01:59:13.900 forward you would have to while everything else is futile while you've tried everything else you

01:59:18.700 know you could talk about your political journey and everything you've put effort into how you were

01:59:22.460 a libertarian and changing your views to become something to where you are now

01:59:28.700 i see i don't think i would write like that i wouldn't you could say it's from rags to romans

01:59:37.740 no i i wouldn't i wouldn't write in that format i would write it more as a an impartial you know

01:59:43.580 third party writing about um you know the the mechanics of like well first of all the the philosophy

01:59:52.620 behind it uh you know the mechanics behind building an organization how they run how to perform actions

02:00:00.300 uh you know the importance of you know training like i would go through the points but i wouldn't

02:00:05.020 necessarily be drawing from um you know how i got here i don't think that's necessarily relevant to

02:00:10.460 that conversation because then it becomes about it's my story in active clubs not you know what the

02:00:17.260 purpose of them is and how they work but even that like i don't even feel comfortable writing that much

02:00:24.300 on that topic other than what comes from my experience so far in you know around three years of of trying

02:00:30.380 to you can't help but be about yourself like it's your perspective no obviously obviously but what

02:00:36.380 i'm saying is it's not my story so i don't have maybe you can maybe do that in like a prologue or

02:00:41.260 something but it's not going to be about like how i got to this point it's going to be about you know

02:00:46.860 what is an active club what is the point why did they come into existence like i wouldn't make it

02:00:51.500 my story i'd be using my struggle but not speaking about me hey that'd be funny instead of say your

02:01:01.580 struggle it could be your solution oh that might be the wrong one never mind

02:01:11.740 how do you say my solution in in german

02:01:14.060 uh i have no idea um

02:01:27.420 yeah nobody so yeah i'm saying even then it's like i haven't like i so i've done

02:01:35.340 planning for basically six actions or seven actions at this point um and two of them that i was involved

02:01:43.980 with were more uh they were more the the projects of other guys than they were mine so like let's say

02:01:53.180 i've done the planning for five actions at this point right that's really not that much experience

02:01:57.740 i've learned a lot about how to do them and i was correct about a lot of my approaches to it like you

02:02:03.020 know just on instinct and intuition but and from what i learned from guys like sewell or russo or whatever

02:02:07.980 right but uh i still i don't know if i'm i'm still figuring out how how to best uh tailor propaganda

02:02:18.220 and you know how to efficiently use resources so i think if i did write that book eventually it would

02:02:25.580 have a very different uh you know kind of approach than other people would if they were talking about

02:02:33.020 active clubs i'd be like i i look at it much more mechanically and i try to quantify stuff right like

02:02:40.940 i look at like how we get exposure on different actions on social media i look at you know what

02:02:46.700 works and what doesn't like why did this thing work and that thing didn't why was this one more

02:02:51.740 successful than that one you know what has the most ability to translate uh outside of you know our

02:02:58.540 echo chamber and into the mainstream you know what how how do you agitate the other side into doing

02:03:05.100 your work for you like those kinds of things and i'm still working out well i've been learning myself

02:03:10.060 from each one as well and tried to apply it to what i've learned to the last one and i think it went well

02:03:18.380 yeah absolutely yeah i uh got ideas for other stuff but i think people need to

02:03:24.300 um coordinate for the future yeah i wouldn't say anything here anyway so

02:03:35.260 um brian 7316 says alex you have the intelligence and experience to write a killer book i hope you do

02:03:41.020 yeah maybe one day um you just have to pick what yeah if you're saying you're going to do the mechanics

02:03:46.620 of an active club well even that though part of the problem with it is so if it was like here's

02:03:55.180 here's how you start you know form start build uh manage and run an active club like part of the

02:04:00.380 problem is that who am i giving that to because there's like basically in every country at this

02:04:05.740 point there already are well-established ones you don't have to go through that process well i think it

02:04:11.100 would be funny if your prologue is all about why nothing why you can't do it why are you helpless

02:04:22.060 well it's just you list off all the things you can't get a petition signed you can't get

02:04:26.460 you can't talk to your politician you can't do this you can't do that you can't do what are you

02:04:30.940 going to do about it yeah this is why this is the only way forward well this is why i also wrote about

02:04:38.140 um one of the long-form things i did this week was on organization uh and i've definitely talked

02:04:44.140 about those concepts before on streams and things like that but i've never really written it out

02:04:48.060 in that in that manner and what people don't seem to understand when they say like you know what do

02:04:53.580 you guys actually do or like what is your ultimate goal is that like it's difficult to even lay that out

02:05:00.540 um in any kind of meaningful way at this point because you you're basically like yeah sure it's

02:05:10.620 good to think and visualize where you want to go but if you're constantly stuck in that vision and

02:05:16.220 never actually you know making any tangible steps towards it then you're it's just a pipe dream that has

02:05:22.300 no we we can't see that far until we have enough exactly so like what does your organization do like

02:05:31.260 well the the simplest answer is we do what we can with the manpower and resources that we have

02:05:38.540 and the more manpower resources and the more sophisticated that our organization becomes we can

02:05:44.460 do more like that is technically the correct answer like that we can only do what we are able to

02:05:52.220 so that's what we're doing um and when it grows we will do more um but if you're asking us you know

02:06:00.780 like how are you gonna seize power or reclaim this you know national sovereignty it's like i don't know

02:06:08.700 exactly what the final steps of that look like because i don't think anybody does and i think

02:06:15.020 that anybody who's telling you that is probably a charlatan or a liar um or sorry a charlatan or a fool 0.76

02:06:23.900 um so yeah like i the way i've tried to describe what you're trying to describe there is what are we

02:06:31.820 preparing for an opportunity because we want to be successful correct because the equation is or is

02:06:40.220 that what you say it the equation is uh preparation meets opportunity equals success so if you're not

02:06:46.700 there's a bunch of opportunities that come up you know to push things in our direction that you're just

02:06:52.300 people aren't prepared for that is a great that's a great way of putting it because that is basically

02:06:59.100 why are we organizing it's that's preparation and then when something happens eventually we're going

02:07:05.900 to be able to be much more reactive when things happen and it's not going to be you know we we

02:07:12.140 respond to something months after it happens it's going to be we respond to stuff the day after it

02:07:16.940 happens and we capture a lot more quickly momentum behind things so or we could be there as it happens

02:07:23.820 exactly so being the larger the organization is the more presence that we have across the country

02:07:32.220 the quicker we're going to be able to react to things and engage in in what's going on we can't

02:07:38.620 do that right now because there's not enough men and there's not enough resources to do that

02:07:42.940 um so yeah that that's a good way of putting it too um and then the other thing too is like i mentioned

02:07:49.420 this in that write-up and i've obviously i've said this point before but the funniest part of you know

02:07:56.540 usually when you get somebody who says well what do you guys actually do or something along the lines

02:08:00.700 and you say well we organize people you know for our collective interests and we advocate you know for

02:08:06.060 positions that we believe in and they'll be like well you guys should do this right you always you hear

02:08:12.220 that all the time you guys shouldn't do that this is how you should do that thing why aren't you doing

02:08:18.060 this have you considered doing that like it's just like you you get that stuff all the time and the the

02:08:23.980 irony is obviously why are you asking us the like the very fact that you're asking us and making this

02:08:33.900 request of us to do something or another thing on your behalf is because we are organized and you're not

02:08:42.460 we have the ability to do the thing that you want us to do and you don't that's the point of organizing

02:08:49.100 you're able to actually respond to things that the atomized individual can't and so like the i don't 0.95

02:08:56.380 it's almost like a i don't understand the the lack of self-awareness and even asking those or even

02:09:02.060 making suggestions right and or you know being critical and then making those suggestions it's like

02:09:06.940 okay well if you want to do that thing why don't you organize guys and you're not gonna you need

02:09:13.580 us to do that for you well then i guess you've just proven the validity of what we're doing in

02:09:18.060 and of itself you're asking us to do it for you i think you say that with all the uh influencers there

02:09:25.340 in canada do you see that picture they had of all the cpc influencers it looked like a sitcom

02:09:33.180 yeah it looked like a horrible cbc sitcom for 2026 yeah that's funny yeah all of those people are

02:09:43.500 scared of what we're talking about because they know if they decided to face what we're talking about

02:09:49.660 they'd be exposed as being full of we've had these people on our shows before a lot of them but i will

02:09:56.540 say mario is a smart person he's not out there doing his channel for all the right reasons that's for

02:10:02.780 sure but uh well i'll say he's not stupid but he isn't illegal he came here illegally on a long

02:10:13.020 enough timeline these people become irrelevant because like they're like they got exposed massively

02:10:18.380 uh again ppc does the best thing they've done in forever like yeah i can't remember the last time

02:10:26.380 they've done something as effective as what they did and then they cocked which is yeah that that's

02:10:34.540 par for the course with ppc anything good they do they cock on i'm just gonna sue them into oblivion 0.94

02:10:41.980 so yeah but you're supporting the party that uh was okay with transgender surgeries

02:10:48.860 like that should be a no blano for everybody that's paying attention i mean i didn't read the

02:10:56.700 whole text thing but these like i did see max genest released uh leaked texts from a conservative mp to i

02:11:03.660 don't know if it was a constituent or what i don't know maybe you know the story better than i do but

02:11:08.140 basically it's just cowardice they're they know what they're doing and they're cowards yeah

02:11:14.860 dude just saying that to the mayor like that it's funny that day was so hectic there was a lot going

02:11:21.420 on i didn't even i've forgotten that he had said that until we went back and uh looked at it again

02:11:32.540 and that's the perfect example this guy is out there saying we got to confront these fascists whenever

02:11:37.260 he can but to my face he's agreeing with me about being an indian invasion 1.00

02:11:44.860 anyways the the ppc or sorry the cpc well both really but the cpc in particular has been a dead corpse

02:11:56.780 for over a year now um and arguably much longer and it just it really had a shot it really had a shot

02:12:05.980 it's just it's already dead but it's just not rotting that fast you know like it really had a

02:12:11.500 shot man like i i remember when it started you know like i was there for the first couple of

02:12:19.020 rallies that's that's when i got hit in the face by tarik fatah fucking hit the face with a cane was 0.93

02:12:24.860 at the ppc before ppc was really like it was maxine bernier talking about these things and yeah that was

02:12:34.220 early early yeah i i was referring to the cpc but it also the ppc is also a dying corpse like literally

02:12:42.860 you just go it is yeah at who is no life yeah um so both both of them are dead which is fine it just

02:12:50.540 would be nice if those you know bodies would rot and decay faster than they are so that we can get over

02:12:58.460 it but the reason was the backbone of that party for the longest time

02:13:07.100 well i i mean yeah he was and then also it's just there's a boomer mentality in the party

02:13:12.860 they are trying to do politics as usual which is why one they very rarely do things

02:13:20.300 the way they should as a fringe right political party in 2026 and two um when they do they always

02:13:29.660 cuck on it like i don't know who was running the ppc account that was the official ppc party twitter

02:13:35.740 account that put that was who the was that guy's name again uh some gay guy martin max's martin

02:13:44.460 i think you're right martin yes it's martin something yeah but was he the one who actually

02:13:51.820 i doubt he was the one who did that man don't know i don't know if he's still around i bet they had some

02:13:57.660 younger staffer who is like that seems like something a younger person would do a much more aggressive

02:14:04.460 person would do martin mass thank you mass massy um that seems like a very youthful approach to

02:14:13.980 aggressive politics so i don't know who they put in charge of that there's that other dude that was

02:14:20.220 there lee would remember that other dude there's two of them there's clinton desvro that was part and

02:14:27.500 he's just like a far leftist now but there was that other queer kid 0.99

02:14:34.380 caleb no the was that blonde-haired kid's name it was they had pictures of him with negroes on his

02:14:41.820 back like trudeau and but it was in haiti or something no no i disappeared

02:14:50.460 he got mad he got mad at lee for having a son and rad in one of her things clinton devereau and

02:14:57.100 caleb voskamp yeah those cuts speaking of party politics some of you might have seen this it's

02:15:05.100 really not that big a deal but uh the tyee which is a publication out of british columbia did a big

02:15:11.260 old hit piece on uh well it seems like it's uh myself tyree uh like well i say myself me and second

02:15:21.500 sons daniel tyree and you know dominion society and that offman offman mcloofy guy who was the

02:15:30.460 staffer in 1bc that caused the whole controversy with the coup and the wyatt claypool and whatever

02:15:41.100 so it's interesting because basically the entire time they just talk about us and then

02:15:47.500 it's it what it really ultimately is is an attempt to attack 1bc the party because their staffer was

02:15:55.740 on a twitter space hosted by fortisax where myself and tyree and a few other people there

02:16:02.380 i think there was 14 speakers or something in a long you know multi-hour twitter space talking about

02:16:09.180 a variety of topics and so they're just like basically because he was in that twitter space talking to

02:16:15.740 us then we are now you know associated with 1bc it was a terrible attempt at a smear piece

02:16:22.860 um you know being amplified by the word one of the worst people in canadian politics andrew coin

02:16:28.940 so it went around a little bit but like there was nothing new there's the twitter space they

02:16:33.980 were talking about is from september 11th i think this was almost half a year ago at this point and

02:16:41.740 they're they're just well they just have a giant catalog of all the different things that we've

02:16:46.060 done and these people just going they got it from anti-hate they said evan ballgore gave us the

02:16:51.500 recording yeah so they just sift through it and when they find stuff with ai it's like oh they mentioned

02:16:56.700 this here let's give it to this person oh they wrote an article about it though so first of all they

02:17:02.380 made some egregious claims about me so have you ever seen she gets paid to write that about you

02:17:11.340 i have no idea but one of the things that they said about me was vrend advocates directly for an open

02:17:21.580 race war quote race war when have i ever done that that's awesome they they quoted the word race

02:17:32.380 war and then put in all of the context to it so the quote is i have said the word race war but there

02:17:38.780 was nothing else in in that that was you know something i've said i'm pretty sure the only thing

02:17:45.340 that i've said about race wars and if they're going to happen is that they have ensured that one 1.00

02:17:50.700 is happening because of their their policies surrounding immigration multiculturalism you know

02:17:56.540 the humiliation of you know actual canadians it's like they are orchestrating a race war and we're

02:18:03.340 the only ones who aren't fighting it that's all i'm not advocating for it i'm saying you did it and

02:18:09.100 it's here and i've got it like if you want it then yeah we're gonna fight you on it but

02:18:13.740 i was just like well it's the same way they use the words ethnic cleansing i love like they were on 0.77

02:18:20.220 top of that one oh that was they got to it first like we didn't realize that we should have been

02:18:26.460 using that fucking word and they jumped on it it's like they advocate for the ethnic cleansing like no 0.90

02:18:31.740 we advocate for not being ethnically cleansed well the way they do it there's actually a bit of 1.00

02:18:39.260 cunning to the way they do it is so they start with a publication like anti-hate right this is where

02:18:44.860 that originates where anti-hate says that re-migration is basically a synonym or a nicer way of saying

02:18:53.900 ethnic cleansing and so then that gets repeated by other publications when they're quoting anti-hate

02:19:01.180 and so it goes from we advocate you know alex brand advocates for re-migration to alex brand advocates

02:19:08.940 for quote ethnic cleansing and they're not quoting me they're quoting anti-hate talking about you know

02:19:15.340 how re-migration is equivalent to ethnic cleansing so like that's the the greasy that's your history now 1.00

02:19:22.220 do you remember when you're going across the country in a van as a holocaust denier trying to

02:19:28.700 do whatever it was yeah

02:19:35.980 they always use the worst photos of me too they take a still image from a screen and they post that

02:19:42.060 and they wait until my face is doing something stupid like yeah yeah par for the course

02:19:48.620 uh well you've had you've had some great articles too like when they played the video of jeremy

02:19:57.500 making that joke it's but it's your face that's up there oh man uh scotia gentlemen

02:20:06.140 anyway anyway the point is regarding the the tie hit piece it's like it's really there's nothing new

02:20:12.220 and it's not even it's an attempt to smear one bc so like it's kind of a pathetic but it's crazy how

02:20:18.620 it is actually a pretty long piece relative to you know what articles normally are so some i didn't

02:20:24.780 even look at the name but whoever that you know prostitute was who wrote it spent a good chunk of 1.00

02:20:30.220 time doing it um scotian gentleman says i wonder about tyson is he starting to get it yet some things i

02:20:37.900 see sounds good but i hope he soon figures out his idols aren't worth a damn yeah tyson hawkley i

02:20:44.860 assume is the one you're referring to and tyson hawkley is an aspiring anti-celebrity

02:20:51.740 he's exactly what i'm talking he exhibits all of the same behaviors that i was talking about with

02:20:56.460 sarah stock nothing he's doing is genuine no it's not motivated he's not motivated by actually getting

02:21:04.460 to the truth or learning new things he's motivated by what can i talk about that's going to get exposure

02:21:10.380 so just look at how he shifts and even what what i've seen him produce lately is the cucked version

02:21:18.220 of you know talking about replacing migration or whatever yeah like he's doing the i have an indian

02:21:24.700 friend thing still like he's 2016 so he's trying to tap into um you know the the more ethno-nationalist

02:21:33.340 market the way that sneko or any of his other you know the people he admires do so yeah is he getting

02:21:41.420 it no i think he's getting better at knowing how to be uh a a fake you know aspiring influencer i think he

02:21:51.340 knows what people want to hear but no he's not getting it

02:21:56.060 no he's gonna go through a cycle there because that's what he wants to do he wants to be the

02:22:06.460 the influencer he wants to be the sneaker he wants to be that it's not about trying to find the truth

02:22:14.220 look you know he doesn't care about that he cares about getting oh my god he said nigger on my stream 1.00

02:22:19.180 guys can you believe it like he's doing the clyde do something of the um it's not even

02:22:25.820 i don't even think it's the clyde do something thing it's it's the okay how can i leverage getting

02:22:31.820 this person on my podcast into getting this person that's very it's a different i just mean some of

02:22:36.860 the videos that he was doing it's like i can't believe you said this but like tyson's pulling some

02:22:42.940 names that i wouldn't mind talking to shmooley i i know he is but that's what i'm saying is his

02:22:49.260 motivation is to get more you can see this the way this is best exemplified like his his psychology

02:22:57.100 around what he's doing is if you go to his twitter profile he talks about how many youtube followers

02:23:02.940 he has yeah he's very concerned with like accruing followers he's very concerned with yeah dude that's

02:23:09.500 all his videos were about for a while yeah i gotta try and get up to 30 000 followers you know we're gonna

02:23:14.780 do this one time i tuned into one of his live streams when he was gonna talk to hermes he was

02:23:21.180 in the chat he's like wow we've got 400 people in here right now those are good numbers you know share

02:23:25.980 the stream around guys let's build it up some more which is i i get it everybody does that but

02:23:30.380 you can just tell like that's his primary motivation like how many eyeballs can i get

02:23:34.220 how can i he wants to be sneeko he wants to be clavicular he wants to be that's what he's like

02:23:39.980 that's his ambition is to be a famous you know podcaster influencer streamer like that's what

02:23:46.460 he's going for well again at no point in time was i ever looking at tyson for his views but i am

02:23:53.660 enjoying watching some of his like it's he's gotten next to some big names like good for

02:23:59.580 you kid like hey man if that's your goal go for it go nuts but don't i'm not going to respect you for

02:24:08.860 that like i'm not going to pretend that you're helping our cause you're you're not oh no no i

02:24:15.260 would never give him that much but it's been interesting to watch i'll say that

02:24:20.860 because like yeah honestly if you're looking at tyson for your morals and values and what you should be

02:24:25.740 planning in the future then you've you've taken a wrong turn trust me well it was the last time i

02:24:31.900 said this to him like you know i forget is he 18 now or whatever it is i said to him like man you're

02:24:38.140 having a conversation like you do not have the prerequisite knowledge and information to have this

02:24:45.420 conversation with me or the people that you're you don't know and the only way you can know is if

02:24:51.900 instead of you know pursuing streaming and you know trying to get big guests and building a following

02:24:58.700 is you sit down for your early 20s and you spend you know basically until you're 25 learning and

02:25:06.620 education in other ways learning about philosophy learning about well you said the same thing with

02:25:11.500 hermes as well it was i think it was with the both of them yeah oh yeah hermes knows all the talking

02:25:17.420 points but doesn't know where they come from all the time he is getting better he's still being

02:25:22.060 persistent i'm not not a shot at him like there's only so much you can know at that age like uh 2021

02:25:31.020 tlc gifted a subscription thanks a lot man i appreciate that um so yeah that's like tyson comes up i think

02:25:42.300 it's because people actually would they would love to see a young canadian streamer you know content

02:25:47.980 creator that it has a decent following and you know he's talking about like people want to see

02:25:54.140 like you know the youth doing that right it's what it's white pilling but i'm not gonna lie and tell

02:25:59.580 you that oh tyson is gonna be he's on track to be a good guy in our club no he's not he's on track to

02:26:05.580 be another like good for him if he does you know if you get what you want become a millionaire and

02:26:10.860 you basically just get to live you know the the celebrity lifestyle good for you i guess but

02:26:17.020 um i don't do is watch from a distance like i've i've chat with him once in a blue moon

02:26:23.340 you know what i mean i don't uh yeah the guy's gonna try and figure it out for himself i can

02:26:30.380 go for it it was funny watching him getting dissed down in miami he's by himself like he's not with

02:26:36.380 friends or anything like that he's going down there by himself like getting dissed by cavicular and

02:26:43.340 he was gonna fight him and that was funny yeah oh

02:26:48.780 it'll be funny wait till he gets banned from the states and then his whole brand just dies

02:26:55.900 tyson has come on my show before yeah but he's uh he's too big time he's too hollywood now i think

02:27:10.540 we've had all of the guy all the early streamers we've all had them on we've had the pleb on sunshine

02:27:15.820 baby clyde all in their early infant stages and we scarred them for life each one of them

02:27:29.500 well i was in that canadian nationalist twitter space and pleb jumped in for like 30 seconds

02:27:34.940 i was talking and he left immediately yeah he's not hanging around for that

02:27:46.380 it's sad though like i get that feeling you get when you know you're wrong i know it's not

02:27:53.340 a good feeling to know you're wrong or you've been misled it sucks i think i think it goes even deeper

02:28:00.620 than that it's beyond they're wrong it's that they're wrong they know it and they're selling

02:28:06.140 their soul yeah they're selling their they've decided that they they want the like they know

02:28:12.460 you think those cpc influencers don't know that they 100 are backing a party that refuses to stand

02:28:19.020 up against child abuse they know they don't care like they're it's sad when you look at it that way

02:28:25.740 isn't it like a couple of the influencers i think are just genuinely new to this or they were like

02:28:32.780 sunshine i know he knows the rest now he knows he's making slop too yeah uh clive there's no point in

02:28:40.620 trying he won't have an honest debate with anybody about anything deep he just touches the surface of

02:28:45.420 everything like a normie does basically yeah and laugh at people laugh at things he doesn't understand

02:28:51.500 and just assume everybody's like yeah they're crazy right you know doesn't actually go deep on

02:28:57.660 anything so dude he pops up on different videos like watch what this politician has to say what are

02:29:03.980 you vanna white like what so you tell your kids you do for a living you're vanna white 0.98

02:29:14.380 uh scotian lady says quote gambling beer and football filled the horizons of their minds

02:29:20.300 uh end quote orwell yeah celebrities and influencers keep people distracted from demanding justice

02:29:26.060 against corrupt cops politicians yeah it's bread and circuses of course um but that's what i'm talking

02:29:31.100 about is this new class uh or concept of the celebrity the the anti-celebrity it's different

02:29:40.220 because it's still bread and circuses but it's masquerading as being the opposition to bread and

02:29:45.980 circuses which is a little bit it's almost more insidious in a way well the people that rise to

02:29:51.260 the top in this field are generally good at the bread and circuses right they know where to place

02:29:55.980 ads they know how to get the viral clips they know how to get the right edits yeah like i i've we've

02:30:03.580 i know we've talked about this before but i don't necessarily want to be doing this

02:30:07.820 like i i if we won tomorrow like i don't intend on doing live streams and anymore i don't intend on

02:30:17.020 you know engaging in in you know politics like that like i don't really want a part of that like i

02:30:23.340 think that they most of these people genuinely want it they want the attention um i genuinely

02:30:30.220 want to live in a place where i'm not worried about my daughter and my kids being murked by a third

02:30:36.060 worlder whether it be in a truck an uber just breaking into the home like what the

02:30:48.460 should we do to this place the whole point of doing this is so that we don't have to do it anymore

02:30:58.140 whereas again this concept of the anti-celebrity and you know we were talking about it uh earlier

02:31:06.220 in in the year when i was doing streams of like the news life cycle and how that has become the thing

02:31:13.580 that that's like people's ritual in their lives they wake up they check social media and they basically

02:31:21.580 are looking for what am i angry about today and what am i going to talk about today like what's the

02:31:26.780 new thing they're being fed like this is the thing that we're talking about and so that's what they

02:31:31.420 talk about and then you know something else changes it doesn't actually the the material conditions that

02:31:37.580 they exist in aren't changing it's not like doing that is actually helping end that that process of

02:31:43.500 you know more and more bad so like it's just that loop so it's that one guy that with the beard the

02:31:50.620 salt and pepper beard and the dead eyes who talks like a queer yeah and he's just constantly watch 1.00

02:31:56.460 this can you believe that why is this happening in our homes and how are we we're just always scared

02:32:01.660 like you're just pumping up the fear be a man and do something about it snitter says this quite well

02:32:07.740 the anti-celebrity gains from the perpetuation of the situation exactly you want to you want an example

02:32:13.660 of that perfect one that everybody knows is ezra levant and rebel news did he did he come up with that

02:32:19.500 quote himself snitter is a she and i'm sure she did because she's quite intelligent wow um good you

02:32:28.300 little snit so yeah like ezra levant rebel news perfect example that situation do they actually

02:32:34.380 want a solution no no do they benefit from this nightmare being over of course not they become

02:32:42.380 irrelevant because their whole thing is basically we will chase down and talk about these fringe issues

02:32:48.780 that nobody else will help us fight this and sign the petition sign the petition and that way we can

02:32:54.700 solicit you for donations every three hours rebel news would never have existed if it wasn't for

02:33:01.180 justin trudeau and that that era of liberal politics that's why rebel news is successful

02:33:08.300 same with diagonal yeah yeah you can you can make that case too but the the difference is that

02:33:14.300 i think that ezra wants the controversy to continue like he doesn't want some sort of final you know uh

02:33:22.060 victory condition where this stops and you know that they really no longer have a purpose because

02:33:28.300 the media is actually focusing on the things they should again and you know like he would be out of

02:33:33.980 business it's like that's an anti-celebrity he's cherished by a lot of canadians for you know being

02:33:40.380 opposed to the system but he's the exact same as what is the difference between him and the liberal

02:33:46.140 media really not that much we have grown adult politicians in this country that believe that

02:33:51.740 diagonal is a our militia uh man on the mountain says here's a tidbit on how times have changed the big

02:34:00.860 four building in calgary was originally built with 24 curling rinks now it's a convention center yeah

02:34:06.860 we were talking about you know the kind of dying aspect of canadian culture earlier which is like a

02:34:11.900 the game culture um and yeah like what did you say a game oh game culture yeah so you know like

02:34:20.300 crokinoe or euchre crib you know chase the cottage games yeah cottage games is a good way of putting it or

02:34:29.180 like but these were also winter these are things you did when it's winter there's no yeah this is

02:34:33.420 what kept you from going shack wacky exactly you had to be mentally resilient to get through that

02:34:38.620 especially with your kids you're stuck inside you got to come up with ways to keep them occupied man

02:34:43.660 it was a it's either play games inside or go outside in you know basically conditions that are

02:34:51.340 designed to kill you so like which one like you either you can you can go outside and you can make 0.80

02:34:56.220 the most of it and they did or you're inside like what are you going to do it's weed or play games

02:35:01.100 that's basically was a good one euchre was big hard and you'll notice you'll that's much more common

02:35:08.540 in older canadian families like if your family so for example that wasn't a thing on my father's side

02:35:14.860 you know who can't like their family came here in the 50s on my mother's side euchre is huge and was

02:35:19.420 always huge in their family like that was the game you know grandma was the ringer at euchre right

02:35:25.580 because that's they played that game generational thing so that's what i'm talking about the dying

02:35:30.940 game culture is like that is not as common anymore because there's netflix there's video games there's

02:35:37.820 you know we used to set aside time like on sundays we'd like sunday was roast day in my family we'd

02:35:43.820 always have a roast on sundays and uh we'd play games and it was always muppets and fraggle rock

02:35:51.580 that were on and it was big deal so we'd play games and like it was jenga or it'd be uh board games

02:35:59.180 monopoly yeah yeah yeah you're right

02:36:06.940 it's one of those aspects that people aren't really conscious of but that used to be a huge

02:36:10.940 thing and it still exists like there's still remnants of it there's still euchre tournaments

02:36:14.940 there's still crokinoe tournaments like they do exist but they're not as widespread like

02:36:22.380 i know that even in my family the next generation doesn't play those games as much as we did because

02:36:28.060 they've got a phone well also hockey as well like iroquois falls when they had the mill there the guys

02:36:36.060 that worked at the mill spent their time after hours building the rink yeah with wood from the mill

02:36:41.900 and it exists just because the guys in the town built it and now they had a rink where their kids

02:36:46.300 could play while they're at where it's it's what the town was built around really

02:36:53.500 all right uh you want to deal with the chat for a second

02:36:59.340 what do you want me to say to the chat i want to go pee 0.66

02:37:05.340 yeah fraggle rock and disney that's what i think it wasn't the muppets it was disney and

02:37:11.180 fraggle rock i think it was on sunday nights or it'd be the raccoons was that the name it was

02:37:19.980 i think it was called the raccoons three raccoons and sneer'll sneer

02:37:28.220 yeah he's right about that with the gaming culture also forts forts is a big thing too

02:37:35.580 said this before like we always had you know our military forts and we've gone on to have

02:37:41.180 couch forts tree forts snow forts a fort in the woods that's what blinds are for hunting it's just

02:37:48.060 a fort you know like guys are continually making that's what i did i came up here and made my fort

02:37:55.500 like who's got the best forts

02:38:02.060 all right happens when a guy gets money and he wants to build his own thing it's his fort

02:38:06.060 uh we'll go for sorry this is annoying me

02:38:15.900 this is my spot we'll go for another 20 minutes or so then i'm gonna wrap it up for tonight but uh

02:38:22.780 i don't know if there's any other specific stuff you guys want to get into i feel like we

02:38:26.060 touched a lot of more nostalgia fraggle rock yeah

02:38:30.700 good what's the oldest cartoon you remember this country do you remember the raccoons was that his

02:38:36.220 name what it was was serial sneer i i i remember the cartoon that you're talking about but not

02:38:43.660 like vaguely only vaguely i don't know the first cartoon that i remember

02:38:51.900 like really specifically is arthur hercules herk herk

02:38:56.300 herk herk italus is coming italus is coming yeah i know some older ones than you i guess

02:39:03.820 i was watching original gi joe and transformers and shit oh so you mean just in general like 0.62

02:39:10.700 all cartoons not canadian ones uh you know what i i didn't think about that as a kid

02:39:18.220 well yeah the raccoons was a canadian one you're right i i don't know if it was or not but like

02:39:23.580 arthur and franklin were i didn't know that no i guess it was primarily american influence wasn't it

02:39:32.940 well yeah i mean that's just reality with being in such close proximity to the united states but

02:39:42.380 well the gravity of their culture is massive even our channels when we put it up like we had the dog

02:39:49.340 ears on top of the tv you know like when we had antenna tv holy yeah each house had a giant antenna

02:39:56.300 off the side of it and you would just pull in like seven channels nine channels and most of them were

02:40:03.260 american and then when we finally got cable i always stole cable it was always ridiculously easy to steal

02:40:11.980 cable cable and run it to your house but classic canadian television would be kenny versus spenny dude

02:40:21.980 that's jewish television i know it is but regardless it was a cult classic like it was it was one of the

02:40:31.340 better fake reality shows in history it had everybody like oh it was like it was very obviously scripted

02:40:42.620 to an extent but the fact that the that's they're doing is absolutely real kind of hides that fact

02:40:49.740 right like you could tell it's scripted but also they're doing these things for real so yeah that's not

02:40:56.700 fake trailer park boys is a much better example of a classic canadian show than or littlest hobo or

02:41:07.420 even corner gap i would say you're better than benny oh it's still okay you gotta give it to them

02:41:13.820 whether you like them or not or hate them yeah i'll obviously i watched it when i was a teenager and in

02:41:20.860 my 20s and obviously i thought it was hilarious like i'll never forget kenny's hellmute character

02:41:28.380 where he gets in like a white jumpsuit paints himself white gives himself a hitler mustache and

02:41:32.780 he's just like they were doing wild on that show though it was on showcase and after

02:41:40.780 a certain time you'd watch it and you'd just be like they put this on tv holy like even

02:41:45.500 tv had dignity back in the day but that's what i'm saying is like it was one of the it's a very

02:41:50.940 degenerate show oh it was it was wild for the day like that was pre-jackass yeah oh yeah 100 jewish it 1.00

02:41:58.940 was but that guy will never live down the the blow job he got from a tranny it's it's hilarious that 1.00

02:42:09.020 even today people love kenny and they just on spetty like if you ruined the guy's life yeah like

02:42:19.420 the beachcombers yeah yeah it was didn't they do something like little mosque on the prairie or

02:42:27.660 something like that yeah never watched a single episode yeah um we were talking about it i i never

02:42:35.020 watched an episode of it either but we did talk about that one a while back and people were wondering how

02:42:38.380 long it ran and all that stuff and yeah um i used to watch much music a bit like electric circus

02:42:45.660 because i would knew some of the broads that were dancing on there 1.00

02:42:50.460 scotian gentleman says you're a flaming commie if you don't think erky perky is the best canadian

02:42:55.180 kids show hilarious i don't know what that is i don't know what that is erky perky

02:43:00.140 erky perky remember sharon lois and bram yeah i do remember that okay lamb chop yeah

02:43:13.900 there was one like a clown we'd only get to see it when we went to a saga beach

02:43:18.860 and we try to get tv there when it was raining and there's this clown called oopsie daisy

02:43:22.940 it looked like an absolute psychopath clowns are fucked what a stupid idea poker root yeah i remember 0.81

02:43:32.060 that mr dress up was one of my favorites i was like three four or five yeah poker is a franchise

02:43:41.180 now he's like we got a cartoon and like yeah mr dress up he was a ship right like

02:43:47.500 was he canadian dress up oh yeah he was our he was our version of mr rogers basically

02:43:54.700 and he had finnegan i don't i couldn't remember that show other than i know i watched it and it

02:44:01.100 was one of my favorites when i was a young but like a toddler like early you know young kid so

02:44:09.100 i gotta find out if he's jewish you know um

02:44:11.980 uh people are saying red green that's not really a kid show yeah red green obviously is classic and

02:44:18.940 okay yeah red green is a good one we could we could do this you know what is under like it's not

02:44:25.180 underappreciated but we should we should never we should never be quiet about this one is

02:44:32.140 fucking coach's corner and don cherry classic like like what they did to him he didn't deserve that and 0.97

02:44:43.100 he was look i don't i don't know if he would still be like this today but he was our guy

02:44:51.740 maybe not maybe not completely like maybe you know not as aggressive as we are now but i think

02:44:57.100 that if he existed today and he would be like us he had the pipeline he had the attention of every

02:45:04.860 fighting age male of every sports fan of every guy that you needed the attention of

02:45:11.180 when i sorry when i say if he was here today i mean if he was if you could take 1990 don cherry and

02:45:17.660 transplant him to 2026 i feel like he would be a hundred percent with us and he would see all the

02:45:22.780 same and he would say something he would be one of the few you know personalities celebrity

02:45:28.060 type figures that exist in canadian media that would be like this this is full

02:45:32.860 because in the reason why we know that all right i kind of feel that is because that's what he was

02:45:39.420 like and we've all seen that clip of him talking to cbc where you know he says uh you know i'm a

02:45:45.580 nationalist now that's what i am a nationalist you know he's talking about you know he says things like

02:45:52.700 you know people call it racism people call it bigotry i don't care what you call it because i'm

02:45:57.900 just four canadians well he was saying a while all those chinese travelers outside of newfoundland 1.00

02:46:03.500 taking up all our jobs it wouldn't be a single foreign trial here what at all it's ours he was right 0.99

02:46:09.900 and then you know the the liberal the live interviewer says like you know people think

02:46:16.220 that uh you know maybe you're trying to rob people up maybe you're just trying to like you know that

02:46:23.340 this isn't uh uh i forget how he frames it and and cherry just says um well i'm not trying to rile

02:46:35.180 people up i'm just saying you know what i see and what i think and that's all there is to it like

02:46:41.740 he's not like he just we could play the clip if you guys want but well you know what gets more views

02:46:47.340 than hockey night in canada now because like he was the appeal to hockey night canada you wanted to

02:46:52.380 hear him talk yeah now you might as well just watch it on youtube well yeah punjabi night in canada yeah

02:47:00.620 punjabi it's hockey night in punjab i think dude it's outrageous paid for by us by the way that's a

02:47:08.380 cbc funded program canada is going to get knocked off the uh the scale when it comes to hockey it's

02:47:16.220 going to be a sad realization for canada one day when the olympic teams just fall off a cliff

02:47:23.820 um it was nice to see despite how foolish they looked walking out

02:47:28.860 in their costumes they were all white almost all of them for sure but yeah even the the hockey

02:47:35.180 thing that's not going to happen for a long time because the hockey culture is so well engraved and

02:47:40.060 there's there's such a strong infrastructure for it and there's so many resources devoted to it that

02:47:45.820 we're always going to have good well we will have good hockey players for a long time

02:47:50.380 until white people are the minority by a substantial margin we'll have good hockey teams 0.71

02:47:55.500 i think covid was a plan by big hockey in sweden because they never closed the rinks i'm telling

02:48:05.260 you you watch in another four years their kids that they're going to have out there they're going to

02:48:09.420 wipe the floor with us that that fucking covid stint did us did us in that's big hockey in sweden

02:48:17.340 maybe we might might see the uh repercussions here this olympics who knows

02:48:23.660 i'm trying to find uh that did i see that um what's his name is on the team canada there

02:48:33.260 who uh the crosby that's it uh i don't i don't know i don't pay i think he is

02:48:40.780 i mean there's there's one thing that you can say is that unlike say the blue jays at least the

02:48:47.340 people are canadian for the most but like actually i do like this i i am a fan of olympic hockey like

02:48:54.300 i think everybody is if there's anything you're ever going to watch it's the one for canada it's not

02:48:58.620 i hate the nhl like it's well that's what people were doing last year with that whatever it is 0.59

02:49:04.060 tournament of four i don't know what they called it you know there's four national teams and it was you

02:49:09.180 know with the fights and the back and forth with canada and america that that was cool it was cool

02:49:14.380 what america did let's be honest oh yeah it should have happened i would expect the same from canada

02:49:19.100 if that was going down yeah i'm just um like do you remember when the russians came over and they

02:49:27.020 were playing the canadian teams all fine and good they went to philadelphia and they just kicked the

02:49:30.940 out of them and they're just they're just like no we're not coming back out you guys that was

02:49:36.060 ridiculous yeah yeah that was the greatest thing about hockey is that you could go out and just

02:49:45.900 say it we're gonna throw it uh mr sauerkraut's hockey is so expensive that it's become a religion

02:49:52.540 for white rich white people they will fight to defend it absolutely but what you're talking about

02:49:57.420 is organized hockey or competitive hockey regular you know if you want to play hockey you can go get a

02:50:03.740 pair of skates that played against sports for under 50 bucks and you can get a 30 hockey stick and a

02:50:09.820 two dollar hockey puck and you can go to the odr and shoot they are right though it is becoming a uh

02:50:17.340 100 a rich person gets scouted and and you know it's so it's thinning out the herd anyway

02:50:24.940 like my nephew plays uh he's playing house league hockey right now he was playing competitive and it's

02:50:31.260 just not for him uh he just you know doesn't want the time commitment or whatever but like they play

02:50:36.940 with 200 sticks my sticks that's crazy yeah i remember my debt for lacrosse my dad went and got

02:50:45.180 a piece of lumber that was sturdy instead of we just drilled an end on that

02:50:52.300 mr sauerkraut's not wrong but you know we can the culture of hockey can be also very cheap

02:51:00.860 um that's what they that's what the story always is the guy who was really good was always learning

02:51:07.100 on the pond behind the house with his dad what's the tom cockett song right my boy's gonna play

02:51:16.300 yeah that's always how it is it's the guys who are just addicted to it

02:51:21.340 you know it's the same with basketball the guy who's always dribbling on the way to school is the guy

02:51:24.940 good it's beyond that now though because if you don't have the financial means to support

02:51:30.540 uh playing competitive hockey you're never going to get picked up so it is expensive if you're

02:51:35.740 extremely good if your parents can't afford to put you in double a or triple a hockey

02:51:40.780 uh like you know when you're in the 9 10 11 12 range you're never going to be in the pipeline to get

02:51:47.980 picked up by the the you're never going to be put through the pipeline to the point where you're an

02:51:54.220 ohl uh you know potential recruit or you know whatever so my daughter's uh uh brother

02:52:04.060 no relation to me new marriage whatever right he's going through this right now where uh

02:52:08.060 he was going to be scouted and they ended up picking they were for diversity

02:52:12.780 so they were picking the half browns and like the the ones that were obviously not as good but

02:52:21.980 yeah i remember my cousin as well trying to play he had to take a bus out of town

02:52:28.620 and go and play up in orillia and he lived in brampton like yeah or north bay or something i forget

02:52:35.100 exactly where it was but it was like that one kid from alabama as well who's up here playing in a

02:52:40.620 tournament there who died in the the car accident there you know the other thing i was going to say

02:52:47.020 to mr sauerkraut there is like even house league hockey is that not is really not that much of a

02:52:52.220 financial or time commitment um it's like two two times a week or maybe three in some instances that

02:52:59.900 they have to go somewhere and very limited like only traveling maybe once or twice a year outside of

02:53:06.220 your city unless you're rural then you made a job yeah your house league you could just send the guy

02:53:11.420 like yeah the games are all located you know within cities in adjacent towns so every town's got an

02:53:18.380 arena that's what our towns are based around like but yeah it's yeah this is true about it's the same by

02:53:27.260 the way it's the same thing in in with you know soccer or football in europe like if you don't have money

02:53:34.460 to pay for training camps and to put them into competitive and take them all over and hotel

02:53:39.660 like it's gonna there's there's a a a financial component to getting your child into that pipeline so

02:53:47.820 yep but uh they'd like to like you to think that there's always those sob stories where the coach

02:53:54.940 sees the kid play at house league and he's so amazing he's like i'll take him with us i'll pay for it all

02:53:59.980 get on the bus yeah but you mind there is a culture as well to to hand-me-downs as well in canada

02:54:08.460 um there was entire businesses based off that and low income and stuff to make sure kids always had

02:54:13.820 skates and like timbits hockey is apparently the story of sydney crosby i don't know if i believe

02:54:19.420 that so much but made for a perfect sponsor for him didn't it

02:54:27.740 but yeah you don't mind doing that for your community if you know your community there's

02:54:31.900 people out there trying to steal from it like browns i trust so yeah anyways i want to play this clip

02:54:39.820 uh let's do this one just because you know it was don cherry i think it was his 92nd birthday

02:54:44.940 yesterday or the day before so let's it's up there ain't 92. yeah look at you donnie look at that

02:54:52.540 guy the beer pardon me the people that drink the beer agree with me what do you hear from honest to

02:54:58.060 god what am i thinking about these days what are they thinking about they're ticked off they're ticked

02:55:03.020 off and i try to tell you this they're ticked off at the foreigners coming over here earning the dough

02:55:08.700 this is what i hear from are you a safety valve for people who are stewing about all kinds of stuff

02:55:16.140 or are you dangerous i don't know whether i'm dangerous i just say what i think and i it's the

02:55:21.820 way i think you can save bigotry if you want i don't think it is i'm pro-canadian more so than i'm

02:55:29.740 anti-soviet or anti-sweet i wish more canadians were like me we need that in an idiot but where is

02:55:38.540 it going to end where is it going to end if we get into that kind of politics we let people come in

02:55:43.900 and take our fish they and the people are starving down there the people come in and wreck everything 1.00

02:55:49.580 on us they come in and and it wouldn't happen if i was in parliament you're not a party in canada

02:55:54.220 would take you today i've been asked by talking about what i've been asked by two which ones uh

02:55:59.660 liberal and conservative and they want don cherry and they're talking about especially about the

02:56:04.220 immigrants they want people that people like that people like on tv so i'm just gonna pause it for a

02:56:10.380 second there because i a hundred percent believe the liberals and conservative wanted him for exactly

02:56:15.100 the reason that he said but they certainly didn't want him talking about the problem with immigrants or

02:56:20.780 anything like that how long is this 40 years ago it's 1990 36 years ago dude that's a lifetime ago

02:56:29.340 i know and he's still how could you not like well i was gonna say still in his late 50s at that point

02:56:34.940 yeah the auntie if you're a canadian good old boy like me from the back benches he'll clean up metric

02:56:42.220 and more i'll tell you i'll straighten those guys out i want to be in the back hollering and yelling

02:56:47.100 i'll be great i'll be as great in politics imagine me imagine me going down to newfoundland

02:56:52.700 okay but going down there what happened i'd go down here and i'll say look vote me in and i guarantee

02:56:58.940 you as i stand here no foreign trawler would come in and touch one fish foreign aid if you want to get

02:57:05.980 into that here we got people dying here we got people dying for one of beds and we're giving money to

02:57:11.340 the foreigners no way it'd be canada first and canada only that's what i am a nationalist i want 0.68

02:57:18.300 to start a new power of the nationalist and isolating ourselves in trade and isolating ourselves

02:57:23.740 and the rest of the world will do just as much good as going out and punching somebody in the nose

02:57:29.180 before the end of the 75 75 of our trade is with good old usa and they like us strong they want us

02:57:37.100 strong not to be wits yeah they used to he's right it goes hard there's so many good edits in that

02:57:47.660 i'm a nationalist there's just gold clips in that like one-liners in that two minutes that you could

02:57:54.540 use and i want to use some of them i made a silly edit back in the day about don when he first got like

02:58:00.620 going he he followed me on twitter and he sent us a super chat and like i don't expect him at 92 to be

02:58:08.620 still watching us but if he made it somebody made the good at it he'd poke his head up

02:58:18.300 well uh look if you guys want to i'm gonna basically wrap this up here i'll play one more

02:58:24.220 of just like greatest if you want to you can go through for hours and just watch

02:58:28.700 the greatest don jerry moments and they're fucking hilarious you and your pinko friends he's he's one 0.89

02:58:35.260 of those even whenever he was talking to the reporter in the clip that we just watched you can tell that

02:58:41.660 he's not an articulate like he's not a particularly articulate or you know what it's not that he can

02:58:48.220 express um what he's trying to say in like the best language or whatever but he is just being honest

02:58:56.300 like he he's one of those like the guys we talk about like they maybe can't explain exactly what

02:59:00.300 they see but they understand what's happening and it's it's based on instinct they can just see it so

02:59:06.780 you see that play out in the way he responds to uh like he's he's witty he's not

02:59:11.340 dumb but he's not the best speaker he's not standoffish at all no he's not always articulate but

02:59:17.180 he's one of the boys for sure exactly but he's not standoffish at all he's that's why people like

02:59:23.740 him because like it's not it's he's just honest it's not polished it's not clean it's relatable

02:59:30.940 um so yeah i'll play one more like i don't know which clips are in this one it's a three minute

02:59:35.660 you know video but you know there's going to be some funny ones that's not what is this stuff on here

02:59:41.820 we're hockey night in canada and we're talking about saving the world and all that stuff let's talk hockey

02:59:46.540 would you be a little leery of hiring him a second time yeah well so he is in a in a case

02:59:50.780 it wasn't racism though it was because it is no it isn't it was the uprising it was between him

02:59:56.380 and the gm that's why he didn't get it wasn't racism at all and let's never get into that again

03:00:02.060 i've lost the whole thing that left winger uh the sky has fallen suzuki he'd be happy he's with him

03:00:08.060 that was sifting last week by the way what uh what is going on with you it was shaking life go

03:00:13.260 out and get your own fair shaking life and work for it don't give me that stuff and you women are 1.00

03:00:17.500 going to get mad at me out there when you come to the games keep your eyes on the puck and i'm telling

03:00:23.420 you i've seen some awful smacks and it's always a woman yapping away there look at the game lots of 1.00

03:00:28.860 fans what are you talking about both jacks get involved and talking about the game

03:00:35.260 but don't blame women men or anybody else for uh getting in the odd conversation 1.00

03:00:43.820 he's like the muppets almost like they have this dynamic of like the smithers brothers and like the

03:00:49.740 two guys and the one personality and the other guy's like what are you talking about

03:00:53.820 you know it makes it so so if you go back and you watch these old clips too it makes it so much

03:00:57.980 better when he's a dick to ron mclean because ron mclean so like ron mclean is spenny it's almost more 0.89

03:01:05.340 satisfying watching it now like before it was you know funny because they're an interesting dynamic and

03:01:09.980 now it's like good you should have been on this weasel the entire time but yeah he knows the reason

03:01:16.380 what it is it's pavel burry last year in the seventh game using blackmail saying i either

03:01:23.580 get six million dollars or i don't play the seventh game now what kind of a guy is that that's exactly

03:01:29.900 what happened he did play the seventh how do you know what happened it happened everybody and it's

03:01:34.300 all over everything happened they signed the guy pat quinn good irish guy would never do that

03:01:39.660 the owner says sign him because they got a new building coming up they need a superstar

03:01:44.220 need a super they're not selling out this year i didn't see it i've it's been reported to me uh

03:01:49.980 that uh comments were made about pavel burry in fact uh very disparaging comments uh by don and i

03:01:55.500 know there's some prejudice in his game as part of the stick and all that sort of thing but

03:01:59.660 but he slandered this young man this boy didn't threaten to walk out from this hockey team in the

03:02:04.540 seventh game the first game or anything else last year he's got bright well we might as well just sit

03:02:09.500 here and then how much time we got a couple minutes for sure a couple of minutes a couple of minutes

03:02:14.060 and they get thrown together to the job but listen you can't don't get caught in the canadian syndrome

03:02:18.860 where if it's katie and it's got to be bad we're the best i've been telling you the best how about

03:02:23.980 the guy that used to be on it about four or five years ago and you know those other the amazing upper

03:02:28.780 body strength of the russians so amazing they're nothing just a minute they're nothing 0.99

03:02:34.540 tournament in calgary t-h-i-n had a finished touch but only wanted a touching finish and that was

03:02:40.140 overseas according to don cherry and the coaches and hockey night in canada on cbc that's not going

03:02:44.860 i think raised a great point he doesn't like the the banging and the smashing why would he's only

03:02:50.460 this high yeah but he can maybe relate to the eight-year-old that would love to play this game

03:02:54.940 oh eight-year-old this is professional hockey we're talking about quit talking about eight-year-old and

03:02:59.820 that why don't we show sid the kid no you want to show him show him then all right go ahead instead

03:03:04.620 of the benches on the same side but you were right that's what that was yes sir i guess though

03:03:08.780 sid would be pleased to make oh i guess he would yeah sure i gotta show him because i show caviar and

03:03:15.100 i show the rest of the guys so i gotta show him it's good keep them all happy this is everybody

03:03:21.980 and did nothing but praise vancouver until it got sickening

03:03:26.140 i brought up all his trains i brought up everything all i've ever done to ojek and all

03:03:31.180 has praise vancouver canucks i never everybody ever come up to me and said good job don but let me say

03:03:37.500 one thing wrong and i'm going to get punched that that was not at all one of the better you know best

03:03:43.500 of moments of don cherry so i'm going to find another one honestly and just play it until but i didn't

03:03:49.900 know there was other people that did that until i went to the states hey and watched a hockey game

03:03:54.780 and realized oh i thought don cherry was on every because he was always on my tv for every game

03:04:01.100 oh yeah obviously you know what i mean but you go to the states and watch a hockey game they have

03:04:05.180 their own two people do it trying to do what they're doing yeah i didn't realize that until

03:04:09.900 like the internet came on and like yeah limited channels i'm i'm gonna play another one and then

03:04:17.020 at the end i'm gonna shut off the stream so cheers everybody oh i can stay on camera i guess until it's

03:04:24.620 over this one's longer my client's been more than fair

03:04:31.020 not gonna sell anything i'm not gonna make everybody watch those ads

03:04:46.540 oh this this is a good one did he also have a a series rock'em sock'em yeah man it's like there's

03:04:53.500 like 30 of them or something yeah dude that was the they were in the day they don't really you get

03:04:58.860 a hold of those vhs tapes and you pop the flights the hits the oh man it was great yeah it was like

03:05:05.340 getting it was just as good as getting the sports illustrated the swimsuit it's like

03:05:10.060 you had rock'em sock'em it's better than the football phone europe it's a nice place to visit but

03:05:19.260 just stop sending his hockey players all right great that's joey coaster he'll drop them with

03:05:24.460 just about anyone holy guys who don't like fighting are you press pipes i'll tell you that right now

03:05:35.580 was he ever on the bench for the canadian team

03:05:44.060 no i don't think so seems like something they would have him do just because of the prestige

03:05:47.500 he was he played with the bruins and then he i'm pretty sure he was the coach for the bruins too

03:05:53.740 i don't know if there was other franchise but i don't remember him being the

03:05:57.660 yeah he was after he was done coaching he was on hockey night canada coach's corner like that was

03:06:02.700 it's i remember eating at his restaurant yeah they had a nice place there

03:06:07.980 before we go any further right you know okay uh wait a minute i'm not through yet well that's

03:06:14.140 for the questions that's your job before we get started i'll tell you something about this guy

03:06:18.780 well you know i dopey whammo this is only three minutes hey you know people must wonder about what's

03:06:25.020 going on let me just tell you our friends the russians five of them were in the playoffs they played 23

03:06:33.100 games and they had no goals but quite a few assists 11 they had 11 assists who's counting i

03:06:42.540 know this guy would say that 11 assists 11 assists and they took back their six million bucks i have

03:06:48.700 the microphone over here not to gamble with slats machine according to don cherry in this installment

03:06:53.420 of the coach's corner that brought all this on was the brown thing and it was stupid he should never 0.98

03:06:59.180 have done it and a 2-2 tie with a referee standing there even made it worse that shows

03:07:04.060 his mentality but let's quit picking on hockey it's not that bad well matt snazlin i think raised

03:07:09.740 a great point here's of course he doesn't like the the banging and the smashing why would he's only

03:07:14.780 this high but you know there's a big bodies out there 200 200 pounds and you know all you have

03:07:20.780 to do is hit them and when you hit them you don't have to maim them but hit them to hurt i mean

03:07:26.540 nobody's afraid out there that game tonight winnipeg are you kidding me you look like nothing

03:07:31.100 either nobody hits anybody look like a tea party out there look swedes and finns playing at december

03:07:36.620 nothing no hidden then you go down and you watch uh pittsburgh and canadians wangle wangle that's

03:07:41.980 hockey it's no hitting i don't give a guy can't score then he bring up guys that are supposed to be

03:07:46.460 tough and they bring guys tough and they lay on the ice and they don't fight they don't do anything

03:07:50.940 i mean hit or fight or do something toronto maple leafs have won four in a row at home and maybe on

03:07:55.740 the right or a fifth wendell clark is a better hockey player with half a back than most guys is

03:08:02.380 with fullback most guys are wendell clark is a big goal for wendell like clearly he's always

03:08:07.740 bothered by this literary giant here you're setting an example to many young canadians and i think

03:08:12.940 oh i'm rich i'm richer than you and you can speak right so don't start telling me how to

03:08:16.860 i can count so go ahead uh don we need you uh i don't know what to say ladies and gentlemen what

03:08:31.660 what is this i've been out here a couple of days and a couple of my friends sly and arsenio uh let me

03:08:39.580 borrow a few things yes uh bill ranford's in goal don cherry in case you're wondering who it is well uh

03:08:45.820 billy uh surely be ended he'll stand on his head and because he he's well rested and grants needs

03:08:51.740 a rest i love the people out here look at them look at this floor director the lovely people here

03:08:57.180 i love them they're absolutely beautiful they're gorgeous look well built and and the way they walk

03:09:02.620 and that's just the guys i'll tell you his voice still carries weight i don't want to

03:09:07.740 a little too much i'll tell you know i'm out here and i've been reading the papers and i can see how

03:09:14.060 people say they really don't want fighting here i can see that how whether the the people i can see

03:09:22.060 why we shouldn't have hockey here uh with fights yes i can see that you want to talk about any of the

03:09:27.900 players involved in this classic yes i wanted first of all talk about uh uh kelly rooney here

03:09:33.260 comes kelly right now here's kelly right he's coming in right now and and i love the little

03:09:38.620 they'll pick them up i love the little blue string that hangs from the back don't you i love him i i

03:09:46.300 you can see the little string there see isn't that i think it's blue shivon it fits right in with the

03:09:52.540 la envy what's with the earring on the left side well when it's on the left side that means i'm

03:09:58.140 available and not only that hockey without violence it's like a silver valet who are you picking well

03:10:05.660 i'm not picked let the best team win why keep score like you this one could go either way i guess

03:10:12.380 let's go i don't understand this is the harry neal and i were talking right right there that little

03:10:17.820 comment from ron well like you this game could go either way i suppose he's like even there you

03:10:23.980 were like that too ron like you like even you were engaging in that kind of like what would you call

03:10:29.900 that um like casual homophobia or something you little who ron mclean he said like this game or like

03:10:43.020 you this game could go either way as in you know you oh you swing for both teams yeah even ron was

03:10:50.620 making gauges they all do it they all make the same jokes it's just in front of the camera it's

03:10:55.980 a different thing or the podium about this we don't understand a thing you see taking it on on um

03:11:03.660 pardon me right you don't understand a thing but go ahead uh you and harry are talking sorry to

03:11:10.300 throw you off but it sounded like you were on the right track and i just wanted to maintain

03:11:13.500 that no go ahead feel free told not to be stupid here and you're acting stupid all right okay here's 0.82

03:11:18.940 this punchy all right now just just yeah oh thanks go ahead all right give it your best shot

03:11:24.780 helman's watching me right now don koharski is a good friend of mine too they're not watching you

03:11:29.260 right now they're in the middle of a playoff game andy von helman is in his room watching right now

03:11:33.500 and koharski's not watching but they're good friends of mine i'm going to tell you something why don't

03:11:37.980 we this is me talking not hockey night in canada right this is not cbc this is not you with your

03:11:43.260 rule book why don't we go before the game i'll tell you why we have 10 power plays for buffalo

03:11:49.820 and 10 power plays for montreal and we'll get it over with at least they used to let us have hockey

03:11:56.220 for the first round all the time and then they'd have 20 minute pen i remember andy last year in

03:12:01.180 chicago he was letting them play though yeah and all of a sudden he must have got the word down hey you're

03:12:05.740 not called penalties i mean let them play the game all right i think i understand you on that

03:12:10.940 another strip off the stripes but uh you say that all the time uh what can i don't say it all the

03:12:16.220 time i put up with it all season sitting here watching power play after power play i thought well

03:12:22.140 finally we're going into the the the playoffs we're going to see some hockey come on we're going to see

03:12:27.180 some hockey i guarantee you the second and third period those penalties are called now let's see some

03:12:32.780 hockey montreal we invented the game in my hometown we have the hockey hall of fame we put 75 of the

03:12:41.980 players in the national hockey league and the yankee duty dandles are telling us that we can't have a

03:12:48.540 franchise now let's sit up today all right and how are you feeling not too good i got the flu i uh you

03:12:55.020 know this has been going on for four weeks four weeks you've had a cold uh it's going around everybody

03:13:01.020 seems to have at this time of the year i have a a guess though maybe it's cholera

03:13:05.660 all right come on a lovely photo in the edmonton newspapers today what do you have to say i am deep

03:13:13.820 trouble deep trouble uh i have to admit that is not blue that's not blue that's another girl in my lap

03:13:23.180 at a party uh you know how you get to those parties ron a weak moment you have a picture taken and i'm going

03:13:29.740 to tell you who took the picture it was glenn glenn glenn say there my buddy took the picture i

03:13:34.300 probably promised me never mind at a party took it at a party i'm not saying where the party with glenn

03:13:39.820 yes he said he'd never show that picture of another girl on my lap he did she took it to the papers

03:13:45.500 it was in the papers today headlines and things like that so i'm in deep trouble and and you know

03:13:51.020 all the reporters are after blue all the reporters are after blue phone her mississauga i tried to phone

03:13:56.380 and tell her about the girl and all that there she hung up on me hung up on me and everything like

03:14:01.580 heartbroken over the whole thing and blue i know you're watching mississauga right now

03:14:06.060 and i want to apologize it was a weak moment and that didn't mean a thing to me

03:14:11.340 i'm a little surprised at you i gotta say i still love the bruins i they'll bounce back harry

03:14:15.900 will do something i'll tell you i love them so much i still wear their shorts

03:14:19.900 what did i know you don't i certainly do wear the shorts and i'm going to show you

03:14:25.180 watch this right here is that not the boston bruins shorts right there have you noticed my tie yet

03:14:30.940 yeah i don't know why something's coming here i don't know what it is well wednesday night you

03:14:34.620 showed me your shorts which was uh very kind of you and i was so impressed i went out and had a

03:14:38.780 selection of your uh underwear put on my tie for this evening's telecast that's good a million

03:14:43.820 comedians starved to death and you're trying to be one yes i obviously have your shorts in a knot

03:14:48.940 i refereed a game tuesday the hamilton guilty bees put the sting on drug abuse and they presented

03:14:54.140 this to all the fans it's a deckle don and i thought you'd like it a deckle i thought it was

03:14:59.580 a decal well it's a decal too you can stick it someplace don cherry in the coach's corner on

03:15:05.980 molson hockey netting canada on cbc this is the coach's corner from the cow palace i got any beefs

03:15:14.460 why would anybody coach in the nhl so losing their jobs it's the same old story even these

03:15:21.180 guys gone it's eagle and i don't care what happens in the rest of their life these guys will be known

03:15:28.380 that they coached in the national hockey league it's something like you when you go back in a couple of

03:15:33.740 years to red river you can always know that you were on coach's corner at one time well since you

03:15:41.660 bring this up uh i'll never think of you anyway but uh the way i thought of you a week or so ago on

03:15:46.380 the sofa i was almost in princess margaret with tony with a ruptured bladder having a nice sunday

03:15:51.980 lollygagging in front of the set with don jerry oh

03:16:01.580 how could you possibly what did they pay you to do that i never got paid a set i

03:16:05.580 want to know what happened was i they asked me and i say i can't do that and then i thought

03:16:10.460 i came over here with an earring above everybody else by dressing himself as opposed to like ron

03:16:15.580 coming there and wearing the blazer they have hung up with them in the wardrobe

03:16:19.980 don went out and tailored his own like even if it was just cheap you know what i mean like it was just

03:16:27.500 cheap for it's you're on tv it could be it just looks good you know like good there one of the funniest

03:16:34.540 things that a lot of people haven't seen about not cherries there's he has like a rap

03:16:39.100 yeah it's cringe but like if you think about it like 1990s humor it would have been pretty funny

03:16:45.660 probably yeah huber doesn't necessarily translate across generations right like if you go back and

03:16:51.660 watch animal house or something like one of the great comedies from the 70s if they're not as funny

03:16:56.540 as they would have been the people then so no the humor is completely different now like i go back it's

03:17:03.420 the same as when you watch a horror movie from when you're a kid you're like jesus christ i was

03:17:07.580 scared of that yeah that's the result could be worse tony you could have saturday night fever

03:17:14.380 ron mclean with disco don cherry on coach's corner in molson hockey night in canada

03:17:20.060 you know the first time that don and i sat in this studio like this he was just a rookie

03:17:24.060 he really was you've done all right yeah keep at it you you remember what i did i remember the night

03:17:29.500 of the big fight no but do you remember on your first night i give you a kiss then there's another

03:17:33.500 one see that how many years apart that's don cherry in the coach's partner even swept my ear pieces out

03:17:40.620 here he planned that he planned that i gotta say something now this isn't funny what i'm going to

03:17:45.900 say and you women are going to get mad at me out there but i was standing in the first five minutes 1.00

03:17:51.340 and it was a tip shot a guy tried to get it over the blue line and a guy tipped it and it come

03:17:56.620 run over my head and hit this poor lady in the face i'm telling you when you come to the games 1.00

03:18:02.460 keep your eyes on the puck and i'm telling you i've seen some awful smacks and it's always a woman 1.00

03:18:07.820 yapping away there look at the game lots of fans what are you talking both jennings getting involved

03:18:12.940 in talking about the game i'm just trying to help look at the puck but don't blame women men or anybody

03:18:18.940 else for uh getting in the odd conversation when you pay uh wait a minute get a ticket to come to the

03:18:23.420 form it's an exciting opportunity for a lot of people all right ask some more questions i'm trying

03:18:28.540 to ask now uh has anybody ever seen stevie eiserman cheap shot it have you i haven't i've never seen

03:18:36.300 anybody spear him knock him down punch him in the face and i wonder why when he hurt his knees while

03:18:41.180 he slid he slid into a post dummy don't be stupid anyhow have you ever seen him cheap shot it you never 0.60

03:18:47.500 will you know why because bobby provitt's there number 24 he will never be cheap shot it because

03:18:54.060 he's got a policeman and i guarantee what an interesting game when it comes to that

03:18:58.860 mario would not have the injuries he's got all right it's rude to point all right so i am pointing

03:19:05.980 it's also rude to interrupt okay just trying to keep things moving don't worry about me make

03:19:10.700 keeping things moving little fisticuffs will help me cop another coach of the year according to don 0.61

03:19:14.940 cherry and this installment of the coaching home like that concept doesn't exist another time with

03:19:18.620 realignment no it's brilliant like the concept of the enforcer yeah yeah or goon but yeah whatever

03:19:27.340 you call it like but yeah enforcer was right back in the day dude the whole purpose of it is that

03:19:35.980 yeah hockey can be like you can be vicious in hockey without it technically being a penalty so like there's

03:19:42.860 there's an element to it of like crossing the line yeah like you can there's times where you can hit

03:19:49.580 someone legally it won't be a penalty but you know it's going to be like a really vicious hit that you

03:19:57.740 don't have to make like you're going out of your way to do something you know to really lay

03:20:02.780 someone out yeah so like it's it's kind of like dishonorable so like that's where you get the enforcer

03:20:08.300 right do you remember when they took out gilmore gilmore just come back and he was playing for us

03:20:13.100 in the playoffs and they just took him out like right away guy played one game

03:20:20.380 or even just like uh what do you call it like um antagonizers or agitators right like on the ice so

03:20:28.460 if you have somebody who's like a little like a brad marshann type he's gonna go around he's gonna

03:20:32.860 you know not cross the line of committing a penalty like he's gonna not slash you he's gonna

03:20:39.580 poke you in the back of the calf and he's gonna hook your skates and he's gonna like he's gonna

03:20:43.980 do these little digs the entire game until somebody you know beats the out of him

03:20:51.660 it is a wild game like it's just i'm sorry it got so commercializing gay like it just got so 0.91

03:20:57.100 uninteresting to me when there was the the on-season games were just so boring it was when it got to

03:21:03.820 playoffs then i people it gets interesting you know but we never make it that far so it just never got

03:21:09.020 fucking the other instance of the the enforcer too is even whenever uh if something's not a dirty like 0.94

03:21:16.300 this happened uh i fucking love that clip i can't remember who's in it but um it's it's the clip where 0.84

03:21:24.060 the guys are miked up and they're talking in the penalty box i'll play it after but basically

03:21:32.620 the reason the fight happens is because one guy lays you know one of his teammates out in the kind

03:21:38.380 of context that we're talking about he's not even mad about it like the guy who who starts the fight

03:21:43.500 he's not necessarily mad about he's just like okay well that can't stand unanswered and so he fights

03:21:48.300 the guy even though he's not a fighter he's not it's not about being pissed off it's not emotional

03:21:53.020 it's like no we're not going to let that stand yeah dude there was politics in hockey it was wild

03:21:59.020 like yeah it's just like an honor thing more than like a an aggression thing so yeah there's that

03:22:05.580 unique element i'll find that clip after you're not touching gretzky like gretzky travel with mxorley

03:22:12.860 or who is it a few different ones he had like a whole squad of enforcers yeah dude that was just

03:22:19.740 then that's it made it an interesting game at that point now it's i don't know it's just not the

03:22:25.020 same maybe it's me i'm not the same but i'm just uh when you throw those elements in there like you

03:22:31.580 were just waiting oh buddy fucking ty dome he's gonna be fighting probert this fucking sunday we 0.98

03:22:36.220 better be there and watching it so you know i just want to say before we keep going with this uh covenant

03:22:41.340 soldier gifted five subscriptions thanks a lot man and do me a favor and can you reach out to me on

03:22:46.620 telegram i don't know if you have my handle but it's at the ferryman's toll toll with one l not two

03:22:53.660 l's so reach out to me if you can i gotta talk to you about something so uh i just don't know how to

03:22:59.100 get a hold of you so i remember getting how excited i was watching my dad was talking it up

03:23:05.020 too that wendell was playing probert like the leafs were playing detroit and it's gonna be wild and

03:23:10.620 like yeah when things kicked off man it was that was the whole point of watching hockey he's waiting to

03:23:15.580 see if i'm back at somebody fighting yeah we'll finish this out and then i'll grab that other

03:23:20.380 clip there any thoughts on that i think i don't know one thing auto is awful happy they're uh in uh

03:23:27.740 in the adams division to get montreal can i ask you a personal favor certainly yes the next time we

03:23:32.860 do coach's corner before you would you not eat a caesar salad or something like that oh that was a

03:23:37.580 pesto with whatever the hell it was don't turn it again if i if i'm not mistaken thanks for your

03:23:42.540 culinary expertise and everything else uh gm's had a tough time with realignment you know why

03:23:47.020 why because uh even mechanics will tell you it's tough to realign with the big wheels

03:23:53.420 i don't uh god cherry in the coach's corner on molson hockey night canada on cbc

03:24:08.300 could have replaced ron with anything

03:24:12.780 rocket soccer next time sunday night we'll have a couple of rock of soccer

03:24:18.540 oh they're long they're like an hour long those those videos but i was trying to find some highlights

03:24:24.060 that you can watch like that like don chair like wendell clark highlights you know tyson michael jordan

03:24:31.260 but it's some people that you could just watch that are just wow it's one thing we've talked

03:24:36.060 about a little bit before which is like it's understandable why you know our guys are

03:24:43.340 hostile and um you know denigrating towards sports ball culture you know it's for obvious reasons it's

03:24:49.980 frustrating it's a distraction these are guys that for the most part would agree with us and if they knew

03:24:56.140 more about what was going on they would probably agree a lot more um so it's like it's frustrating

03:25:01.740 watching them be absorbed in this stuff whenever you know that there's a much more important thing

03:25:06.780 going on that they should be focused on as men but the problem is that it as a frontier

03:25:12.860 yeah well that's it is so the the correct attitude i think is not necessarily yes you have to kind of

03:25:18.700 denigrate it and you know talk about it a little bit because you know it deserves to be on for what it is

03:25:24.860 now and and you know how it's uh like how it's orchestrated but a more um probably long-term

03:25:36.060 approach that would benefit us is if we were trying to leverage it and get it like infiltrate it and use

03:25:42.780 it to our advantage so you know it like just i'll throw out an example imagine if you know whatever it

03:25:49.900 is 14 guys or something showed up to a whatever an edmonton oilers game and they had 14 seats in a row

03:25:59.740 and they just had you know they had migration now re-migration now painted on their chests

03:26:07.180 and they take off their shirts and they you get somebody to film it in case it doesn't get out but the

03:26:12.780 idea here is that that's a wild idea you ideally you would do that at like a multicultural night or

03:26:19.260 punjabi you know ethnic night like because they do that now so you do it for that many letters it

03:26:25.020 would cost you 23 000 to get tickets well it depends on what stadium you're going to guys and which um

03:26:35.420 you know night you know obviously a playoff game isn't a good time to do this but if you're i don't

03:26:39.900 know what the score that's a great idea though i don't know if you just came up with that now but

03:26:43.500 that's what i've thought about it a bunch of times but let's say if vancouver is last in the league

03:26:47.980 right now and they're only selling like 60 of their tickets on average or something like that and you

03:26:53.980 can get you know 300 level seats for 50 bucks a pop or less like that might be worth doing because

03:27:00.700 what would happen ideally what would happen in that situation is you would get somebody to film it for

03:27:05.180 yourselves obviously um but what you want is the cameras to pick it up and what would happen is if

03:27:12.780 that becomes a controversy in sports media it will go to people that will not see your stuff

03:27:21.660 in regular media right so a lot of people who watch there's guys who wake up and they don't turn on the

03:27:27.260 news they turn on sports center they don't care they're not watching politics they're not watching

03:27:32.380 celebrities they're not see they do watch sports though and so but by doing that you're injecting

03:27:38.220 your message into sports and it's a message that will resonate with a lot of the guys who do watch

03:27:43.740 sports you know we could just get soccer could get soccer tickets and just spray paint edgy and send

03:27:49.180 them out there streaking what could happen what could happen if you do this is if it becomes a

03:27:56.460 controversy in sports and you know sports center and tsn and all the other ones are condemning you

03:28:02.620 and talking about you know this bigoted display that occurred at you know and that becomes part of

03:28:07.820 the conversation which it easily could that's exactly what you want now now sports media is having a

03:28:13.660 conversation about re-migration now even if it's negative and so you're leveraging you know an aspect

03:28:19.900 of uh you know entertainment and media that you otherwise wouldn't have access to by doing something like

03:28:25.100 that so you know that's that's an approach that i think should be attempted by us and other

03:28:31.580 nationalists you could do it at football games you could do whatever nationalists in europe do this

03:28:36.460 at soccer games already which depends i remember when blue jays tickets where you can get free blue

03:28:42.860 jays tickets by buying two two liter bottles of pop at blockbuster back in the day because they just

03:28:49.340 weren't filling the stands but yeah there's lots of possibilities if you think creatively like this

03:28:56.780 is the covenant so i wish we had european sports where half the fans are nationalists yeah well this

03:29:00.940 is where the roots of the active club come from right so it was like soccer hooliganism dude it's a

03:29:07.340 tough like we've thought about this link for a long time yeah the canadian link is hockey we have arenas

03:29:13.100 in every country like cracking that nut is but you have to tap into that and like the way we're doing

03:29:19.740 this right now is never gonna really get anywhere in that particular uh sphere so yeah i like i 100

03:29:31.020 want to but it's a matter of resources and time and like where are you going to schedule that you gotta be

03:29:36.060 right that's just so it's got to be done right no taste in canada ideally you would want to do this

03:29:43.260 at a hockey game and ideally an nhl game um i mean you could you know ohl would be you know something

03:29:50.140 that maybe you could do but you're not you're not trying to ruin somebody's game you want the exposure

03:29:55.100 for something else yeah and so like you're and again even the timing of the night well ideally you

03:30:01.100 would do this whenever they're doing a pride night or something or you know hey like one of

03:30:06.700 that's the only time did i ever tell you that when i went to my first game oh yeah it was

03:30:11.980 fucking pride night and like they had fake cheers in the crowd they had fake cheers for the oh my god 0.56

03:30:18.060 it was embarrassing what the terrible it ruined the whole thing it's like why do you have to inject

03:30:23.900 the gay into everything i was trying to enjoy a hockey game like i would have bought your hot dog 0.86

03:30:28.860 i would have bought your overpriced shit just to enjoy a fucking game like everybody else we missed 0.98

03:30:33.500 one opportunity to do this i thought it was later in the year that the winnipeg has a the jets have

03:30:39.340 a punjabi night like punjabi hockey night or whatever it's it was early in december and i looked it up

03:30:45.980 when i looked into it i was like hey is that coming up like in the you know january or february or

03:30:50.380 something it's probably cheap tickets to imagine winnipeg ain't selling fucking well i i i think they 0.83

03:30:56.060 actually do pretty well but i i don't know what their ticket it doesn't really matter because it

03:30:59.660 already passed but even then we don't have a lot of people in manitoba anyways so i don't know what

03:31:05.180 we could have done but the point is that you this could be done and it would work it would fucking work 0.90

03:31:12.940 it's sleepy but um all right i'm gonna play uh this this is the clip that i was talking about there

03:31:19.900 earlier i don't know if the context of this is set but the reason this fight breaks out is because

03:31:25.980 the one of the teammates got wrecked like absolutely decked in a clean hit and so the fight is just uh

03:31:32.460 you know you man like you you hit you hit one of our guys like that win or lose you're fighting

03:31:38.620 someone about it right it used to be fun to watch this i can't do it anymore it's friendly like it's pretty

03:31:44.460 funny

03:32:06.300 done

03:32:14.460 Hey, Watts, we got to work on our cardio this summer, huh?

03:32:20.260 Jesus.

03:32:20.660 Come see Joey, we'll make sure he's in the car.

03:32:22.920 Joey doesn't know cardio.

03:32:24.680 No, that's fine, you can see it.

03:32:26.160 I like it.

03:32:27.440 Good luck for us to hear, buddy.

03:32:28.840 Thanks to you too, buddy.

03:32:31.020 Want it?

03:32:31.820 Yeah.

03:32:33.720 It was like that with everything.

03:32:38.060 Even in martial arts growing up, like, if you ever actually hurt the guy,

03:32:41.960 you were like, oh, fuck, you know, 0.86

03:32:43.140 it was never fuck you in your face. 0.96

03:32:45.820 It was like our sportsmanship was never like that.

03:32:47.980 Like you'd see the UFC now, like.

03:32:52.620 Yeah.

03:32:53.240 So anyways, that was, yeah, that's like the real hockey culture right there.

03:33:00.280 What it is.

03:33:01.640 Well, they weren't fully going for it either.

03:33:04.500 No, that's what I mean is like,

03:33:05.700 like people see the fights and they don't really understand it.

03:33:08.840 It's like, it's not even necessarily about trying to hurt the guy

03:33:12.120 or even that you're mad.

03:33:13.740 It's just, you crossed the fucking line there, bud,

03:33:16.440 and now we're going to scrap.

03:33:17.780 And it, you know.

03:33:19.020 A lot of times the guys would just pair up and hold each other.

03:33:22.160 Yeah.

03:33:22.940 It's like we're letting these two guys sort of in.

03:33:25.140 There was a fucking goalie fight recently too that was wild.

03:33:28.800 Really?

03:33:29.600 Bench clearing goalie fight, yeah.

03:33:31.640 See, that stuff's worth it.

03:33:32.920 Like, that's the whole game.

03:33:34.520 We want it to get so intense and guys are flying around throwing checks

03:33:38.980 that you just have to throw a fight to slow things down.

03:33:41.980 Like, get in the penalty box, fucking sit her down there for a simmer down, boys. 1.00

03:33:46.040 Fuck.

03:33:48.800 Yeah.

03:33:49.440 It's too bad.

03:33:50.500 I love the old hockey.

03:33:52.100 I just don't see it in the nude.

03:33:53.380 Disgust me to watch now because, like,

03:33:55.700 you can't see the slobs are all in the way 1.00

03:33:57.860 and they gave it up

03:33:58.780 and, like, they killed Don.

03:34:03.020 Here.

03:34:04.980 All the way down the ice.

03:34:06.960 Bobrovsky's got the clock up

03:34:08.120 and he's going up through the Delkovich.

03:34:09.980 We've got a goalie fight.

03:34:11.520 It's the Delkovich and Bobrovsky.

03:34:14.220 Oh, Bobrovsky doesn't kick it.

03:34:16.560 Wow.

03:34:18.400 Bucket goalie fights.

03:34:24.320 Who was the one who everybody was scared of?

03:34:27.860 Ray Amler?

03:34:33.760 I'm not sure a whole lot has landed.

03:34:37.080 Older than that.

03:34:40.540 Fuck.

03:34:41.500 Goalies are big boys typically too, so.

03:34:44.800 But even that one.

03:34:45.520 So why did the goalies skate from one end of the rink to the other

03:34:48.860 to fight the other goalie?

03:34:50.260 It's because the entire teams were fighting.

03:34:52.320 And so at that point, it's like, well, we've got to go too.

03:34:55.200 That's what's fair.

03:34:55.980 Hextall.

03:34:56.480 That's it.

03:34:57.000 Ron Hextall.

03:34:57.640 Oh, thank you.

03:34:58.620 We're not just going to sit here and watch our teams fight, are we?

03:35:01.740 Like, if they're all fighting, we may as well fight.

03:35:04.300 Yeah, we're going at it too.

03:35:05.500 I love seeing the goalie fight.

03:35:08.260 Like, people would plan goalie fights too.

03:35:10.580 Oh, yeah.

03:35:10.900 Like, Hextall was the king, dude, for the fucking, you just leave the other goalie stunned.

03:35:18.520 He's like, holy shit.

03:35:19.840 There's only one thing he could be doing.

03:35:21.620 What the fuck?

03:35:22.220 Oh, yeah.

03:35:22.560 It's way better in the instances where they meet at center ice, where, like, an entire line brawl breaks out, and they start skating towards each other, and they meet at center ice.

03:35:33.140 They know it's going down.

03:35:34.480 Like, it's all right.

03:35:35.480 We have to do this.

03:35:36.860 Yeah, dude.

03:35:37.800 All right.

03:35:39.020 I'm going to shut her down, though, guys.

03:35:40.680 That was fun.

03:35:41.240 Just kind of doing some nostalgia with Don Cherry.

03:35:44.300 I got to watch me some Hextall stuff now.

03:35:47.240 Oh, yeah.

03:35:47.880 This is great.

03:35:49.800 But, you know what?

03:35:51.180 They need another league.

03:35:52.160 They need a millionaire to start, like, an XFL-type brand of hockey.

03:36:00.500 Well, I mean, there's a ton of leagues.

03:36:02.600 I know, but there's just not – it doesn't have the exposure.

03:36:05.360 Like, you remember XFL, though, dude?

03:36:07.100 I watched it just once these broided-up guys hurt each other.

03:36:09.920 If you want more, like, old-time, you know, hockey, it's, you know, AHL, ECHL, WHL.

03:36:19.200 Like, that's where you get more of that.

03:36:21.440 Oh, yeah.

03:36:21.760 I think up here they get the battalion up here.

03:36:24.860 Anything that's not, like, minor hockey.

03:36:29.140 So, if it's, like, OHL is – I mean, not that they're all minors, but it's teenagers.

03:36:34.380 That's where Tim Horton's from.

03:36:37.420 Yeah.

03:36:38.080 That guy was a stud.

03:36:39.020 Did you ever see him?

03:36:40.300 Giant jaw, fucking – yeah.

03:36:44.580 God damn it.

03:36:46.160 And now, if he saw his fucking legacy, just a bunch of fucking Indians letting cockroaches through the donuts. 1.00

03:36:55.880 Yeah.

03:36:57.220 All right, guys.

03:36:57.980 I'm going to shut it down.

03:36:59.060 Thanks, everybody.

03:37:00.440 Cheers.

03:37:00.680 Thank you.

03:37:01.240 Yeah.

03:37:01.380 Thanks, everyone.

03:37:05.140 Thank you.

03:37:06.460 Cheers.

The Ferryman's Toll - February 08, 2026

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