The Daily Toll - 21-07-25
Episode Stats
Length
3 hours and 19 minutes
Words per Minute
146.19456
Hate Speech Sentences
354
Summary
In this episode, I talk about the tragic death of a police officer in a shootout with a suspect in the drug trade, and how it affects the rest of us. I also talk about my weekend, and why I don t really care anymore.
Transcript
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And my mental is safe, but rest is back at soul
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And my mental is safe, but rest is back at soul
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To the queens here I'm sitting, you've been looking much more pretty
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Here's the coming dawn, since you and I once met
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With friendship and a freedom that we both shall not forget
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As I pass you on the street, I think of who we both become
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Remember the triumphs and the times we worked so hard
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Loved up my east and lost down every single time
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I'll stay with some locals, some my old friend friend
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Lasting songs with your country, you might not seem to forget
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Like, I don't know what response they're expecting
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know that willful promotion of anti-semitism that part of the law that was the one that was
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added in in 2022 uh with that uh budget bill that they snuck in the holocaust denial law
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so that is literally he just denied the holocaust so they have willful promotion of hatred which
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could mean anything and then willful promotion of anti-semitism likely means that he just denied
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the holocaust according no denied downplayed or condoned is the legal terms that they have in
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the actual criminal code for anyone with dental issues do not drink water did you know there's
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a simple way to regrow teeth and gums go at free fight censorship support free speech
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one of the members in our community is a great guy he's a member of the people's party it's an
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alternative right-wing political movement political party here in canada and i'll need i'll need your
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help yeah no problem nice guy great guy and that's a big problem because if this happens in so this is
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it's 25 minutes long i don't know like this is the link that iron republic sent um
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um i republic again says i wish i was that generous brother here's hoping you can refund
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no no tell me how to read if you're serious you're gonna have to find a way i mean you can reach out to
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me on telegram or whatever and we'll get it sorted um you'll have to go through fairy's lawyer
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for this one okay you know a donation is non-refundable you hit the send button and that
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that creates a binding contract between you and entropy and myself so i don't know if we could
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we might be able to reimburse part of the money but i don't know yeah it's over my head now
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the interest is gonna go up for each hour that you don't uh do it okay yeah no uh reach out to me
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on telegram or twitter and just ping me and be like yeah i did not mean to send that much money and
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we'll sort it out but uh at uh it's the the ferryman's toll with one l on telegram
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i've heard about that case but i didn't know that there was a news article to accompany it
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and that news article doesn't really tell you anything other than the guy was actually
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probably just making paste videos and i did i can't find it right now but i think i did find
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his channel before and it seemed like just a lot of compilation videos of like
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earned zundel type stuff and like a bunch of that stuff all mixed together and it had like a big
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following on rumble bit shoot and other platforms like that just like and i i couldn't find out who
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this guy actually was like i didn't see him speaking at all when i was looking it up but i did see the
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channels that had a lot of uh followers and a lot of views and it was just generally good like really
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red-pilled compilation videos yeah um that's my understanding people are saying play the whole
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video i'm not playing a 25 minute video of just a background of george george orwell quote as
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two guys two boomers talk in monotone voices like we're not listening to am radio i i did send you
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i did send you a video on telegram somebody sent me it a friend of ours and what it says
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older one okay it says here's the clip that got sons of enos kenneth paul and 51 and north bay
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charged with willful promotion of hatred do you think this yeah we'll we'll watch this
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um while that's loading i'll answer some of the other ones there one sec
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uh base maiden says what is your answer to people when they say quote yeah but the chinese
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built the railroads yeah um so this is basically the equivalent of being like black people built
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america because they pick cotton chinese people did not build canada because they hacked at rocks
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with pickaxes okay um it was something that honestly a lot of canadians didn't even want
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and the railroad companies took advantage of because it was their cheap labor but this is like so
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whenever you hear this stuff it's like well the chinese built the railroads you mean they built
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part of the railroads as in they did manual labor on part of the railroad in bc like they didn't build
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the railroads out east they didn't build the railroads in the in the midwest and in the prairies
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they didn't do that that was canadians um and it's it's basically the equivalent of like
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anybody like i'm sure people can relate to this
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when a drywaller or like some guy who does like i don't know they install acoustic panels or something
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they'll point at like this huge massive building complex that just went up and they'll be like i built that
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like some like some tradie is like yeah i built that it's like no you you're a plasterer john you
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did plaster in that building you didn't build that building you fucking what do you mean you built the
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building just because you put some fucking tape on the walls and sanded over it like you didn't build
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the fucking thing like what an absurd claim it's been i guess you could say you helped build it
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but saying the chinese built the railroads so because there was chinese slave labor involved
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in building the railroads that discounts all of the engineers and all the other technicians and all
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of the planning and all of the fucking the um exploration and the site surveys and just like
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everything that had to be done by the white men to make that fees no some chinese fucking picked rocks
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into overpasses in bc so now you have to let infinity chinese into your country because they
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they picked some rocks what a retarded argument um also they were only brought in to undermine the
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working class so don't forget that aspect of it as far as i know too they weren't brought here
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permanently they were brought here specifically to do slave labor at slave wages and then be kicked out
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dr jenstein who's also crazy says he sent 1488 did he send 14 oh no just come on jenstein what the hell
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but he said edgy is gay and then he said shit that was supposed to be a one dollar super chat
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but yeah that's the answer there base maidens is like so what so fucking what that they built
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and again too the the motivation behind that argument is always displacing you it's always about
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um undermining your identity your right to have a sovereign nation like it's always coming from a
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i don't think the argument of but they were there is a good thing to give somebody a foundational
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place in the founding of a country right yeah well it's kind of like what they've done a more recent
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example of this is them being like oh seeks have been here for over 100 years
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over 100 years it's like there was 14 of you in canada in 1923 14 really you've been here but
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by the way like you you weren't here i think in 1967 there was less than 5 000 indians just
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subcontinentals in canada period in the 1960s there's something like that i never met an indian
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like at all when i went to school i went to school i saw a few blacks i saw a few things that there was
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like maybe like two or three that i even knew of or encountered in the multiple schools of people
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kids that i interacted with now there's fucking jeets everywhere what the fuck has happened like this is
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this is incredible yeah it's well again too that argument again is not about it's not a genuine
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argument where they're like well actually we've been here for a long time and we are part of the
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founding myth no that's not what they're saying they're saying like you have now you have to let
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in as many derpinders and you know dolly wheats as possible because there was 10 of us here in 19
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that's the argument they're trying to make they're not the most low grade people are making that
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argument too like oh yes sorry you gotta like just fucking degenerated minds are making that
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argument at this point and if you validate that argument then why can't they make that argument
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too as well why isn't goop goop render also correct when he says it that's why you're gonna stamp out
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these these these false myths of what our country really is so barf mcgarf in the chat says canada is
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a broken laurentian shithole the sooner western balkanization happens the better fuck canada stan
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is he is this one of these laurentian elites guys he's clearly a western separatist look man um i think
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that you guys have to go through this little experiment of western separation to realize
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that it's a nothing burger and it won't get you anything that you want by all means do it um
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but uh i'm just gonna i'm just gonna be real with you for a second if you think like look i have had
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the privilege and i'm lucky to have traveled and lived in a few different places in canada over the
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last five years seen a lot of different places i'm telling you right now if you think that western
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canada is some kind of you know unlike some extremely different culturally you know radically uh you
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know that if you think that western canada has some kind of culture that is radically varied from
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the rest of canada you're just wrong i don't know where westerners get this idea that like oh we're
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we're nothing like those eastern canadianers like they're nothing like us it's just not true it's not
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fucking true um i know this because i've lived in rural alberta i've lived in urban alberta i've lived
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in urban ontario i've lived in rural ontario and i can tell you right now the difference that you're
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that you're feeling is an urban rural divide it is not a provincial divide and this plays out in
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every province pretty much in bc interior bc pretty fucking based pretty fucking cool most people are
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pretty awesome go to vancouver it's fucked it's absolutely fucked it's antifa hellhole central right
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same thing honestly it's the same thing with vancouver island you go to vancouver island outside of the
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major cities people are pretty based people are pretty cool they don't really like what the
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government is doing they don't like all that you go to the to the cities you go to nanaimo it's fucked
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so the that experience that you're feeling of this kind of like alienation is not with the rest of
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canadians because you would get along just fine with somebody from rural ontario it's the urban divide
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and so there's this this misconception that people have that it's like oh man if we could just
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separate it would be so much better than being part of eastern why so you could be ruled by edmonton
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and calgary that are just as liberal and just as fucking brown as ottawa or toronto
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like what's the point edmonton is already a majority non-white city calgary is going to be there in like
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less than a year like what do you what do you think you gain by leaving canada your demographics are on
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a worse trend than ours are so what is the impetus for them to have this point of view do they have
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like a larger concentration of rural albertans that are that lend credence to that worldview or is it that
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is it something else like i'll explain i'll explain why so there's a reason why alberta is
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disproportionately conservative to the rest of canada and it has nothing to do with with social
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culture okay i'm telling you that i i know a lot of you westerners are going to freak out at me for
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saying that but it's i'm fucking right and i know equalization no it's oil that's it it's oil and gas
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the only reason alberta and saskatchewan just in general western provinces are more conservative
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well one they're more rural that does play a part but the real major difference the reason why their
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cities vote conservative at the federal level is because of oil and gas because like it or not
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one quarter okay one quarter of alberta's economy is oil and gas that's a huge percentage it's like
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it's 22 i think in 2023 i think that that was the last time that that i saw the numbers for it
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one quarter something around that number was oil and gas now that means a hundred percent of your
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economy is oil and gas by the way or virtually a hundred percent of it because if one part of your
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economy is 25 of it then that means everything else is a result of that 25 and what i mean by that
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is so your next biggest industries are going to be like construction real estate manufacturing stuff
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like that all of those are dependent on the continued existence of the oil sector if the oil
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sector goes off then all of the rest of it falls apart too if there's no oil demand there's no reason
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for people to move to alberta and there's no reason to build houses if there's no need to manufacture
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equipment for all of these oil facilities all across the province there's no need to manufacture
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there anymore it just goes on and on so obviously like oil and gas is huge now the federal government
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is the one that's taken a hostile approach obviously to oil and gas and that's why you can have the biggest
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shit lib you could possibly imagine in in the world like full on they they support global homo they love
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transing kids they think that every kid should cut their dick off they think that we should bow down
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and you know suck chug dick they think that we should give away everything we have the blacks but they
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work for oil and gas and funny enough when it comes down to it they'll vote conservative just because they
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know that their livelihood depends on fucking oil and gas this is why you could look look i worked in some
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of these fucking oil companies in alberta in their headquarters i've been in them a lot of them uh
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fucking exxon um shell like i've been in a bunch of these fucking facilities whenever i was working out
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there they're as liberal as any fucking liberal college arts campus you could possibly imagine
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diversity shit everywhere this is why but those people are still voting conservative
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so really what it comes down to alberta is not more conservative than the rest of canada
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it's more dependent on oil and natural gas and that's what makes them vote conservative because
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they know that the rest of the parties are going to do everything they can to fuck with their
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livelihoods so that's what it really boils down to you think you're more conservative in alberta you're
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not you're just as liberal you're just as fucking global homo you're just you're all the same
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things but you wear cowboy hats and so you think that that and you vote conservative you think that
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means that you're somehow different to toronto calgary is the same as toronto it's the fucking
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same i lived in it it's exactly the same edmonton is exactly the same as ottawa there's virtually like
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it's almost indistinguishable you go into one neighborhood you can't really tell the fucking
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difference i couldn't tell you if i was in toronto edmonton calgary ottawa fucking the suburb of
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vancouver wherever it all looks the same it's all the same demographics it's all the same shit
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livery it's it's the same so this idea that i don't know where albertans got this that they're
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somehow extremely different to the rest of canada is delusional obviously they have a a culture that's
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unique the same way that every region of canada has a culture that's unique you go to the maritimes
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yeah it's a little bit different than it is in ontario you go to alberta yeah it's a little bit
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different than it is in bc or in the the eastern provinces yeah of course of course there's subtle
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differences between saskatchewan and alberta but they're pretty subtle um so yeah this this delusion
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that you're this unique like you it's again it's this americanization thing here where they think
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like oh we need to rebel against tyranny no you don't you need to start organizing with the rest of
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your people against the same problems and the funny thing is that most of the problems you have
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with the federal government the rest of interior bc also agrees with you uh rural ontario agrees with
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you a lot of people in the eastern provinces i know you shit on them but they actually agree with
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you um it's delusional like i don't we have to transplant alberta separatists into i don't know
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rural quebec and rural ontario and just make them live there for like three months so that they
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understand that like you guys really aren't any different so this my oil my oil argument does that
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transcend to all these other natural allies that you have spoken of like uh like interior bc
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and rural ontario like are they all on board with the same thing or is there like a fight to get
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alberta's oil away from them or something i i know that they're against the liberals who are
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like pushing initiatives to stop them from using their natural resources yeah but what do you think
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um well obviously yeah obviously the liberals are hamstrung it's not just the liberals but
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even the conservatives too like guys the conservatives are on but you guys don't remember like danielle
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smith saying like oh i'm on board with net zero we need to get towards net zero like even their
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plan but we need to do it by 2050 instead of by 2035 like that's the difference they oh we'll give
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you 15 years before we completely fuck you in the ass like that's that's the offer you're getting from
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the conservatives so um yeah um but like yeah obviously look there's problems with confederation
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like i would be like you'd have to be a lunatic to be like alberta has no of course there's legitimacy
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to their grievances that's not what i'm i'm not denying that they shouldn't be pissed off about
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equalization payments or that they shouldn't be um you know trying to get more influence within
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uh the federal government or that they shouldn't be pissed off about you know the fact that they
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don't have as many the west doesn't have as many senators as eastern canada like yeah there's all
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kinds of legitimate grievances that you could have with confederation and honestly the only way to fix
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this country is going to be some kind of a new confederation like we're gonna have to redo the
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charlottetown conferences the you know the charlottetown quebec and london conferences and
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the whole thing is going to have to be renegotiated um in it to suit a modern perspective to me that's
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not rebelling against tradition that's embracing tradition of saying like hey look this is how we
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got here let's just do it again like we can fix this um and there's there's tons of things that we
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could do to do that but this whole foray into let's separate here's what you're going to get it
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first of all it's not going to work second of all even if it does work um what you're going to get
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is the exact same thing at a smaller scale which is arguably better because you're reducing the scope
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of the problem so for example it's easier to deal with the problem when it's reduced in its its total
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size so if it's only one uh nation then great um like or if it's one province instead of this whole
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thing it's like okay well now the problem is smaller it's more contained so there's maybe an argument
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there but the problem remains the same it's just smaller in scope you still have the shit livery you
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still have the foreigners you still have the taxation you still have the the same legal framework
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you still have you know the same people by the way that's the real problem the problem is not that
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um like it's it's it's not oh if we could just break away then we can have you know our whatever
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neo-american utopia where we all have fucking guns and like you know cheap gas um that's not going to be
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that simple is it because now you have to contend with all of the people who are going to be advocating
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for all of the policies that got you to this point in the beginning because as i said you're now you're
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just going to be governed by calgary now uh and edmonton guys who's the mayor of calgary right now
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did you guys think about this shit when you're when you're doing your let's separate who's the mayor
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of calgary is that curry jody gondek a fucking seek a foreigner a literal foreigner is the mayor of
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calgary who's the mayor of edmonton or at least i don't know if he still is but he certainly was
01:33:18.220
is that curry no it's amen amandi uh sodep i for i've so he i forget his fucking name but again
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an indian so who's curry that was one of that i thought that was at least calgary the last mayor
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of calgary was fucking nenshi nahid who is by the way is now or at least was running for the leadership
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of the ndp or didn't he win it that's what you guys are going to contend with you think that
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separating fixes that problem you just oh that's now you have a new problem which is fuck now now
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we're being governed by i mean i guess we're being governed by calgary instead of ottawa but it's just
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as bad yeah you know what i saw when i was in alberta i saw the exact same shit i saw in ontario i
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saw fucking pride flags flying in schools i saw anti-white propaganda everywhere in schools which
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by the way i spent a lot of time in schools and office buildings and stuff like that which is why
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i saw this i went all over that fucking province from the very south to the very north of that
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fucking province it's the same shit everywhere it's fucking pride flags and diversity agendas
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like you guys think that this is a solution to the problem it's not your problem is within
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it's not just the federal government doing it it's your fucking provincial government it's your
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municipal governments how does separating from canada fix that problem it doesn't
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you have a much the problem goes much deeper than just fuck ottawa and the way you fix that is not by
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oh we'll just fucking take our ball and go home that's not going to fix the problem but as i said at the
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you know outset of this monologue i think you have to go through the process i don't think that
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they're going to accept what i'm saying until they've gone through the process so by all means
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go about it start start doing it do your referendum do your votes do your you know
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politicking and whatnot and three or four years from now most of you are going to be right where
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you were and you'll be like okay we need to fix like this has to be fixed at the national level
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it can't be fixed at the provincial level which is correct well they're just going to get
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exhausted and demoralized and blackpilled over it and then they'll come back to a more reasonable
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uh well it's not that they're unreasonable their demands are perfectly reasonable it's they
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they have identified a whole bunch of the problems correctly and they have prescribed an absolutely
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and again too i like i don't blame people for being it because i fell into this ideology after
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the convoy that was my response to what they did during the convoy i was in alberta and i was like
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alberta needs to separate like this is the only hope for saving anything that resembles canada and what i
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immediately encountered was all of the same problems that you have at the national level
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you've got fucking hindus and and sikhs showing up to rallies about alberta separation why because
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they want to be able to carve out a piece of it for themselves that's what they're motivated by they're
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not motivated by the same things you are and they're the ones who are going to be if you want
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but but what is the separation look like at the end of the day uh alberta separation from canada
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so it's not part of america but it's not part of canada so is alberta its own country i don't really
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get what they think is going to be the outcome at least uh when you look at a world map and and you're
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trying to distinguish between countries is alberta its own country does it become part of the states
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because i know that there's several different types of ideologies and political incentives that
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that intertwine there is a process that's so to do it legally like legally within the canadian
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constitutional framework i think it's set out in the clarity act i'm pretty sure that's the act that
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just like that explains the process for the secession or you know separation of any province of the union
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of confederation um and so in order to go through that process legally it starts with a referendum
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and then there's another part of it but ultimately what it comes down to is you have to have i think
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it's six of the ten provinces have to also vote yes in favor of you being allowed to leave
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so name the six name the six provinces that are going to vote with you alberta for you to leave
01:37:59.360
the union well like it's it it's defined by its antagonism against the other provinces so why would
01:38:09.460
that be be able to happen legally whatsoever it won't happen it won't happen legally so it seems like
01:38:15.800
it'll be like a revolutionary thing if it were the response which is correct the response that you
01:38:21.720
should get if you're an alberta separatist the response is i don't care what your fucking paper
01:38:25.920
says we're leaving now we can do this the easy way which is like a diplomatic solution and we sort it out
01:38:33.020
like to buy the will of the people and we're just going to negotiate this process or we do it the
01:38:38.600
hard way which is fuck you we're out we're not giving you tax revenue anymore we're establishing
01:38:43.640
our own borders send the fucking military if you want to we'll create our own militias like
01:38:48.220
that's that's the hard line like fuck you approach which is basically what would have to happen and
01:38:53.900
even that doesn't need to necessarily be violent because if alberta was that serious about it if
01:38:59.120
they could mobilize that many people towards that cause then what are you going to do are you going
01:39:03.400
to go to war with alberta to keep them in confederation are we going to do canadian american or
01:39:08.960
canadian civil war you know like that seems like a a very extreme thing like i doubt that would happen
01:39:16.260
so if there was enough political will to make this process happen it doesn't matter what the laws say
01:39:20.900
it'll happen um this is just reality laws are just words on paper um what really matters is
01:39:28.080
at the end of the day is um political will and guns and having the people to hold the guns
01:39:34.600
that's what it really boils down to well that might separate like the spirit of alberta from
01:39:41.340
a lot of the other provinces as well as america's revolutionary spirit which is what something that they
01:39:48.500
look up to and some of them want to divorce from canada but some of them want to join 51st state
01:39:56.140
and this is actually right it's there's actually an interesting aspect of what makes alberta
01:40:04.460
different um like and unique within the canadian context and i mean i think it goes for saskatchewan
01:40:12.100
too a little bit but it's mostly alberta and it's that alberta was at least to an extent
01:40:17.820
initially uh settled by americans so these were people who had come you know through the american
01:40:26.240
midwest and up and you know they were just looking for lands to settle and they weren't really paying
01:40:30.980
attention to borders so they were just you know in southern alberta they were just starting farms
01:40:35.580
and whatnot and this is before the border was solidified and finalized so they just kind of
01:40:40.580
walked across a border that didn't exist set up homelands and they were americans and then one day
01:40:46.500
they're not americans anymore they're they're subjects of the crown and so there is this um genetic
01:40:52.620
kind of um ethnos to albertans that is more american than canadian so that's where some of that comes
01:41:02.240
from um but also just from the distance obviously um there's that western culture that that wild culture
01:41:11.440
that you know obviously is um you know really summarized in in the american experience but it also
01:41:18.980
like look the royal canadian mounted police was formed to you know instill law and order in the
01:41:27.460
canadian uh western provinces so that we didn't have a situation like was going on in the american
01:41:37.660
um so they're trying to prevent cowboyism yes yes they were they were 100 trying to prevent what
01:41:47.900
was going on in the united states yeah the northwest mounted police is what they were calling them but
01:41:52.960
yeah um so anyways to summarize this look albert i think they need to do this go nuts people like
01:42:02.000
marty you know people like yukon strong like they need to just go through this process and figure out
01:42:07.560
it's not going to work and then once they go through that process and realize it's not going to work
01:42:11.540
they'll finally understand what needs to happen
01:42:13.640
or they'll leave they'll just straight up fucking leave and they'll run to america
01:42:20.020
i've always just understood it as foreigners are coming in it's not the european diaspora
01:42:32.340
and it's not good that that's kind of the political paradigm i'm looking at i haven't had personal
01:42:41.360
experience with like the oil industry or any any of these things so i just know that when i see that
01:42:50.140
my homeland isn't what it should be anymore then that's when you got to put your foot down
01:42:56.880
right so i don't really relate to all these albertans or all these different people in different
01:43:05.260
provinces with these things but i can understand their arguments
01:43:08.980
um prolapsed zanal on entropy says my mother doesn't appreciate your language does she appreciate
01:43:19.320
your username prolapsed zanal does she appreciate that um there was another one here too uh
01:43:31.340
this is when i heard fairman make the point about the difference between uh the u.s and canada being
01:43:40.660
a matter of loyalty versus rebellion it struck like lightning i wonder what his opinion on the u.s civil
01:43:46.300
war is i need to watch his past streams um my opinions on the u.s civil war aren't really like
01:43:54.480
political um if that may i like i have a fair historical knowledge of both the period leading
01:44:04.120
up to the war and uh the events of the war but i never really looked at the broader political
01:44:12.560
context of it um i was more interested in it just as like it's a very interesting war to study if that
01:44:19.160
makes sense it's like the first industrialized war where you get like uh repeating rifles and
01:44:26.660
machine guns and trench warfare and stuff like that so like it's it's a really interesting
01:44:31.720
like historical estuary where it's like still part restricted warfare in lines like you would see in
01:44:39.260
you know the 1700s where you have like you know like the american revolutionary war where they line
01:44:43.640
up and they shoot at each other there's like half that and then half like world war one so it's like
01:44:48.980
a really interesting war like that um one of the last wars that cavalry was super effective
01:44:54.880
so like yeah it's it's an interesting war but i don't really know that much about it politically
01:45:00.300
to be honest um so is it like a difference between them lining up and just fucking aiming rifles at
01:45:11.120
each other and shooting at each other but then uh into the future more uh asymmetrical where you know
01:45:17.800
you dig trenches and you don't know where the shots are coming from and people can actually duck for
01:45:24.420
cover and then there's like a no man's land in between is it that kind of thing yeah well so the
01:45:33.600
reason they could line up like that was because they didn't have rifled uh barrels like the the
01:45:39.380
technology that was being used to shoot at each other was so inaccurate that like the chances of
01:45:44.560
hitting the target were very small and that's why they grouped for volley fire like that's why
01:45:49.460
they're firing these tight formations like at like a brick of people is because it wasn't accurate
01:45:54.880
so it's more likely to actually hit somebody if they all just so they're all just playing like a
01:46:01.420
gambit and gambling that if they all shoot at each other something's gonna hit by the outbreak of
01:46:07.920
the civil war you start seeing rifled barrels so like obviously like rifling is what makes the bullet
01:46:13.740
spin right and that spinning keeps it keeps the accuracy um you started seeing stuff like um
01:46:21.600
conical projectiles so instead of just balls of lead it was like a cone shape that would fit into
01:46:29.640
the barrel so it would maintain it you started seeing things like uh repeating rifles obviously
01:46:35.020
towards i think that's towards the end of the war but lever actions and stuff like that so being able
01:46:39.300
to fire very quickly so standing and shooting at each other was not a good idea because you could
01:46:45.920
just pump out round after round at each other and then also you start seeing i don't it wasn't the max
01:46:50.460
was it the gatling gun it wasn't the maxim gun but it was something it was a repeating gun it's not a
01:46:57.100
machine gun but it's like you cranked it and it just popped off shots like you you know those old
01:47:02.220
timey machine guns yeah so like you saw that i think there's those came like middle of the war
01:47:09.400
none of this stuff was super oh and artillery was way more effective as well um but like that's why
01:47:17.780
it was such a bloody war right like 600 that 650 000 people died in that war um that's a lot
01:47:24.680
obviously uh both for the time period and just in general
01:47:29.860
yeah gatling people are saying yeah so yeah oh yeah dirtbag dances the cartridge cartridge was
01:47:39.320
developed quite early but was too expensive to make on that yeah
01:47:42.180
and it probably culminated in world war one with the trench warfare where like well that's why
01:47:51.460
so it just became absolutely brutal so the reason i say it's interesting is because
01:47:56.640
there was two major wars that happened in between with the except there was a couple exceptions but
01:48:03.220
there's really two major notable wars that happened between 1821 which is the end of napoleon and world
01:48:11.520
war one and it was the american um uh civil war and the uh prusho franken war um which was
01:48:21.100
basically germany's uniting war 1870 to 1871 so like that's a like that's a very key one now the
01:48:27.800
reason those two are interesting is because they showed the effects of one um how effective some of
01:48:34.340
this newer technology could be like in the prussian context it was things like the needle guns which i
01:48:39.800
think was like a cartridge based mechanism so like you because you weren't like individually loading
01:48:45.980
you know wadding powder whatever into the the bore and like stuffing it all down you're putting a
01:48:53.060
cartridge in it shoving it down and then firing and that allows you to fire a lot quicker obviously
01:48:57.840
so you started seeing that kind of stuff and the reason those two are interesting is because one was a
01:49:03.000
protracted long war that showed like how bad this this technology could be whenever it's being used by
01:49:10.180
both sides and two was the prusho franken war was a very quick war relative it was like six months or
01:49:16.680
something and it showed what happens whenever you can use modern tactics with modern technology
01:49:22.880
the people who were paying attention to those two wars who were still alive prior to the outbreak of
01:49:29.200
world war one understood how horrible a general european conflict was going to be because they were
01:49:36.820
looking at it they could foresee that like this is going to be like the american civil war on steroids
01:49:42.620
because everybody's armed to the teeth everybody's getting up to date on on the way to use this
01:49:48.040
technology and nobody's really seen what it can do at scale and they were right obviously
01:49:55.600
seems like that all accumulated into like the nuclear option basically by the end of world war ii
01:50:05.120
and now we've never been there again at this point but it's been pretty steady in other ways
01:50:11.940
so there's um like another thing that you need to understand about war prior to world war one
01:50:23.760
um you could argue um prior to napoleon i suppose because there was a little bit of this in the
01:50:29.860
like the napoleonic wars but um in the european context in the pre-napoleonic war era all the way
01:50:40.300
back to whatever roman times pretty much um with the exception of some roman struggles war was very
01:50:47.240
rarely thought to be a war of annihilation so when france went to war with england they weren't trying
01:50:54.140
to destroy the state of england like they weren't trying to bring it to its knees where the population
01:51:00.060
was starving and like the entire society was collapsing and stuff like that this only comes
01:51:06.160
about it starts in the napoleonic era because napoleon was waging wars like this he had a conscript
01:51:12.380
army he famously said like i you can't defeat me i spend 30 000 lives a month right so like his whole
01:51:20.340
thing was like there's another famous line from napoleon is quantity has a quality all of its own
01:51:25.340
so this is where you start seeing this kind of total war aspect take over like they had requirements
01:51:30.800
like uh all horses are requisitioned by the state so like if you have a horse that can be used by the
01:51:36.980
cavalry it's now the cavalries if it can be used to pull artillery it's now the property of the artillery
01:51:42.260
like they they did like world war one style tactics of like the government controls the complete
01:51:47.560
economy in the early 1800s wartime measures yes and so like that that was a relatively new concept like
01:51:55.340
with the exception of that being done in specific instances like obviously soldiers have stolen
01:52:01.500
livestock and and stuff like that from people forever but it being like a a general practice of
01:52:07.960
the military that's relatively new it only comes into play really in in the way that we saw it in
01:52:14.380
world war one in the napoleonic wars and that's where in world war one that's where you really get
01:52:20.600
these wars of annihilation like germany wasn't trying to just defeat france militarily like when
01:52:28.240
ludendorff launched his offensive into verdun he was trying to create a meat grinder like he was trying
01:52:34.780
to kill as many people as possible and quote bleed france white like he was trying to to basically
01:52:41.760
bleed the country to death not defeat them militarily but just cause so much death and
01:52:47.280
destruction that they they didn't have the will to fight anymore that's a new concept or like
01:52:52.320
completely starving a population like at the national level obviously that would take place in sieges
01:52:58.880
like if you were sieging a castle or something you would try to starve out the population
01:53:02.760
but i'm trying to think of instances where that was done at a national level like they did to germany
01:53:08.960
in world war one just didn't happen so um like this idea of of total war that's a new concept
01:53:16.920
and until that time period of total war like it's it's funny you go look at it you can look at some of
01:53:24.180
these uh you know diaries and stuff of generals and kings and lords and whatnot and it's kind of fun
01:53:31.260
like you can tell they're kind of having fun with it like in the 1700s they're like oh jolly good
01:53:36.540
we'll go off to war with france and i'll claim a new territory like just shit like that like that's
01:53:41.840
how they thought about it like this is probably best exemplified in things like in medieval warfare
01:53:47.620
you didn't try to kill everybody in fact it was better if you could take hostages because that was
01:53:53.520
lucrative so for example like you capture the king right you don't kill the king you capture the king
01:54:00.560
if you could capture the enemy's king then you can ransom him back for a huge amount of money and you
01:54:05.320
have all the leverage in negotiating terms the same thing is true for whatever any kind of nobles right
01:54:10.660
if you can capture lords ladies you know knights dukes that's political capital and uh you know
01:54:18.940
financial capital so you weren't actually trying to kill people you were trying to capture them
01:54:24.540
like that was the most lucrative way to fight the war and then once you capture them was be like all
01:54:28.680
right we'll give you your freedom but you owe me this duchy and this county right and now it's mine
01:54:35.940
and i control it and next next year when we fight maybe you'll win it back but for now it's mine
01:54:41.720
like that type of shit it's like this this idea of like wars of annihilation it's kind of
01:54:47.400
it's relatively new in the european context and it's really not
01:54:50.700
something that is natural to us i don't think it almost sounds like a fun board game back then
01:54:59.700
but but also what i find interesting is the barbarism of the past like say in the middle ages
01:55:06.860
you would torture people to death with like very cruel measures that we would think of right now but
01:55:13.520
uh when we look at world war one and world war two them being wars of annihilation that is much
01:55:21.040
more barbaric in a sense that we don't usually apply and we and we think that industrialization
01:55:27.760
and uh modernization allowed us to be less barbaric but in many ways we are more barbaric when it comes
01:55:35.840
to wars of annihilation in the 20th century it seems like we've peeled away from that
01:55:42.360
and we haven't gone back to that necessarily except for when you're looking at like the third world
01:55:48.920
obviously and israel versus palestine and uh all its enemies within the middle east but yeah what do
01:55:56.980
you think of that so it sounds to me like it's it's interesting because prior to world war one
01:56:04.720
there was a segment of academics and even military people like military men who believed that war was
01:56:15.040
kind of a thing of the past and that the idea that you know the great european powers would ever go to
01:56:21.020
war again was ludicrous and the reason why they thought that is because things were so good it's like
01:56:27.160
why would we go to these like why would we have an extended conflict with france france has an empire
01:56:32.620
we have an empire we're both you know our quality of life is going up like we're both doing really
01:56:38.580
well like why would we risk like england in particular like why would we risk our empire
01:56:43.140
you know to go to war with france over some piddly territory in the caribbean or something like it
01:56:48.960
doesn't make any sense anymore right um so there was right at the 1900s yeah like late 1800s early 1900s
01:56:57.480
there was this kind of belief of like there won't be another big general european war like there was
01:57:03.320
in the napoleonic wars because why would there be like it would be horrible for everybody involved
01:57:09.380
which is correct um but there was that kind of thought process but there was a counter thought
01:57:14.000
process and this is where you kind of reminded me of it um in particular there's a german general
01:57:21.220
who's famous for his like uh modernization of of war tactics among klauschwitz and uh he thought
01:57:29.100
that this was an abhorrent idea so like there was a segment of military men particularly the prussians
01:57:35.180
which if you know you're familiar with the prussians is like a military oligarchy basically right prussia
01:57:40.900
um like the basically the pinnacle of the german military elite they viewed war very differently or at
01:57:47.980
least a lot of them did they viewed it as something that was noble and something that was good um and
01:57:54.040
that the best of humanity was found in times of war and that the idea of getting rid of warfare was
01:58:01.680
basically getting rid of the best of humanity that nobility is found in warfare that heroism is found
01:58:08.360
in warfare that bravery like all these noble virtues are found in warfare and the idea that you would get
01:58:13.820
rid of these for eternal peace was just ludicrous like that that there's this inner like there's this
01:58:19.480
necessity for conflict in human beings and trying to negate that with endless decadency and pleasure
01:58:27.560
would just lead to worse outcomes and so there's this to tie that back to what you were getting at is
01:58:34.080
taking away the nobility of warfare and these kind of higher concepts of honor around warfare has made it
01:58:41.880
more barbaric but we act like it's humane which is why we we act like y'all man hacking each other's
01:58:50.600
heads off with axes how barbaric let's just kill each other with drones from 3 000 miles away like that's
01:58:58.500
that's is that good i don't think let's just use an atomic bomb on a whole city and let let their
01:59:07.940
children reap the benefits of the nuclear fallout from it so you can see 30 000 dead or however many
01:59:15.280
in one hit how barbaric is that versus the barbarism of seeing your opponent right to their face and
01:59:24.860
stabbing them in the gut or whatever yeah so you can see where a lot of these older um
01:59:32.940
you know kind of nobility based generals didn't like the idea of modern warfare and they didn't
01:59:39.960
like the idea of you know eternal peace and they're like this is not good for us um they had a point
01:59:47.580
yeah no they did like it's it's interesting because you look back on it's weird because in the post
01:59:53.160
second war era these guys were looked at as like crazy right they were they were like it was kind of
02:00:00.680
like looked at as like a historical like just like what a bunch of weirdos and now like and i remember
02:00:06.280
learning about this and like that's the the kind of context that they're spoken about like this kind
02:00:10.720
of school of thought of like war is good and it's actually good for men and that we need it to a
02:00:16.880
certain extent and that that's how you you find the highest virtues in men is through this this process
02:00:22.420
of suffering and like it's painted as being ludicrous and then you know years later i look back and i'm
02:00:27.780
like they had a point they had they had a fucking point well the thing is is that they've painted over
02:00:32.660
that i i hate to bring it back to this again but with holocaustianity like war is good if it's meant
02:00:39.680
for a cause that we have brainwashed everybody to be down with right so like war is noble but if it's for
02:00:50.280
the right reasons that we have told everybody which is now multiculturalism yeah it's funny even that is
02:00:58.380
interesting too so why did the romans not have issues with post-traumatic stress disorder
02:01:06.100
you would think that they would have noted that if that was something that was a real
02:01:12.280
problem like they would have had a different name for it obviously what was it because it was something
02:01:16.780
they believed in and like it was something tangible that was in line with their worldview
02:01:23.760
which is is like wait so you just told a bunch of guys we're gonna go destroy the civilization next
02:01:32.460
to us and take all of its shit for the glory of rome and they were like yeah cool let's do that
02:01:37.480
yeah like that's that's what it's we're there is our enemy they have shit we want that shit
02:01:44.780
they have it right now we're gonna go kill them and take it and all the guys are like yeah that
02:01:48.880
makes sense there's no cognitive dissonance there's accountability for your own actions
02:01:55.020
but if you're going to fight a war in iraq or afghanistan there's a cognitive dissonance that
02:02:00.940
why are we even here and especially if it doesn't add up to afghanistan or iraq or any of these
02:02:07.580
middle eastern countries actually being a direct threat to you and your family and your kin
02:02:12.840
then i can understand how that would translate into all sorts of uh mental issues especially
02:02:20.740
given the trauma that you'd experience there i would say though that the trauma that you experience
02:02:25.980
in a war like that uh you feel like you're gonna die at any second because there's explosions
02:02:31.820
i think that alone will do it and that's also the modernization of war where it's just like it's very
02:02:38.380
impersonal it's very like you walk up to this garbage can and it can fucking explode right and
02:02:45.640
it's way different than somebody coming up to you and stabbing you in the neck or with a sword just
02:02:50.680
like what the romans did right yeah exactly so like there's just this there was a truth about it that
02:02:58.220
obviously soldiers like even this is why you get it in world war one too even though obviously world
02:03:04.360
world war one conditions are abhorrent so like shell shock was like a legitimate like that was a
02:03:09.800
physiological response like being hammered with high pressure um like bombs over and over will
02:03:16.620
damage your nervous system so you'll see that what what they taught that became what do they call it
02:03:23.240
there was a name that it became after that it's like battle shock or something and then eventually
02:03:27.580
they renamed the post-traumatic stress disorder ptsd is not the same as shell shock shell shock is
02:03:33.280
is a physical phenomenon that comes from being bombed repeatedly over and over again and it destroys
02:03:39.920
your nervous system and causes this kind of like catatonic response it's not the same as what we call
02:03:45.060
post-traumatic stress disorder now which is not being able like i like obviously there's veterans in
02:03:51.020
here and i don't want to speak for them but it sounds to me like what it really is more than anything
02:03:55.180
is not being able to reconcile what you were doing and what you experienced with the reasons you
02:04:02.940
were given for why you were doing it um so kind of like you said of just being like why are we in iraq
02:04:10.300
ah to freedom and shit and they're like no it's a mix between both like you have a consistent uh
02:04:18.140
nuking of your nervous system with like the the actual physiological shell shock but also the shell
02:04:26.440
shock of what am i even doing here yeah yeah it's both existential like uh psychological and
02:04:34.420
physiological all in one artorius says it's pretty sad seeing footage of shell shock world war one that's
02:04:40.600
yeah it's really disturbing footage you can find it of them in like the even some of them in the 1930s
02:04:46.620
like they some of them never recovered from it and they're just in the 1930s they're in a hospital
02:04:51.200
just just stuck just stuck shaking that's all they can do is just sit there and shake
02:04:56.440
really and why couldn't you when like why wouldn't you when that sound and that like that scent that
02:05:06.460
sensory uh experience is tied to people getting their limbs blown up your best friends like that could
02:05:14.800
have been you mentality wasn't even somebody walking out before you or behind you it wasn't even that
02:05:21.120
though so a lot of this is just guys who were stuck in trenches or in bunkers and just for days on end
02:05:26.360
hammered with these like i forget exactly what it does to the atmosphere but it's a it's a physical
02:05:32.220
effect so like you can only take so many of these like here imagine this just like just to try and give a
02:05:38.580
perspective of it of just being stuck you know like heavy bass imagine you're stuck in a small room
02:05:44.820
right and there's somebody's just got like big ass subwoofers all around you and day and night for a
02:05:51.960
week it's just boom boom boom boom boom boom and just like the the effect that that would take on your
02:05:57.940
nervous system now imagine it's bombs instead of like bass yeah it's just compounding it with actual
02:06:04.200
real real danger and it's like an l-rad like a long range acoustic device like a like a weapon it's
02:06:10.520
just it it's contributing to like endless insomnia and just the the sound waves are fucking agitating
02:06:20.720
your nervous system constantly yeah crispy says and those subwoofers also blow your limbs off yeah
02:06:28.500
exactly that's what i'm saying it's like like that's the trying to like
02:06:32.900
trying to like explain like the the the only way i've ever felt like even remotely like okay like
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what can i imagine this as like you go read accounts from soldiers in world war one and it's
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fucking awful like i've never nothing i've ever read in history has made me go fuck that more than
02:06:57.480
reading accounts of world war one soldiers like just the shit that they were put through it's just
02:07:02.140
it's unlike anything like i i don't think any other time period even compares to it um there's obviously
02:07:10.400
you can pick out like like look if you were if you were uh where is it uh if you were on the was it
02:07:20.380
the plenty fields if you were on the plenty fields lined up against hannibal that day that would
02:07:25.880
have been a bad day that would have been bad you would have been suffocated to death and then
02:07:29.480
disemboweled like that would have been a shit day or if you were at stalingrad like yeah that would
02:07:34.320
have been a shit couple weeks you know like when it was minus 30 and you're fighting like endless
02:07:39.280
hordes of russians or something that would have been pretty shitty um nothing compares to just like
02:07:45.120
day after day in the fucking trenches of world war one just it'd be like a thousand miles of trench line
02:07:54.340
and it's just everywhere is shit everywhere is horrible like there's i don't think there's ever
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an experience like that um there's a surprising uh lack of world war one movies within hollywood too
02:08:08.780
as well it's just like you think that something that has such such a potential for heroism but
02:08:19.340
barbarity would be perfect for hollywood but no it's just like they can't even focus on that
02:08:24.700
like paths of glory i think it's 1957 stanley kubrick it's one of the only movies i've ever seen
02:08:32.260
about world war one and it's all about how there was like uh several platoons or a platoon of guys
02:08:39.480
that were sent in like a suicide mission basically and then a bunch of them went to go do it and they
02:08:47.600
got annihilated and they ran back and then a lot of them stayed in the the uh in the what do you call
02:08:54.560
it the the bunker or whatever um i'm forgetting the word right now the trench they stayed in the
02:09:02.260
trench and then uh the rest of the movie is them being tried for uh desertion so they basically
02:09:10.340
at first they want to get like the heads of as many people as possible but then they're at the end of
02:09:16.100
the day they're like we'll pick three people that we're gonna blame and we're gonna give them capital
02:09:21.060
punishment for deserting for that and that is the kind of movie that they put forth for world war one
02:09:29.300
it's not like a a war of heroism like world war two where it's like we're saving the jews or
02:09:35.620
like we we went into this battle and we won the biggest movie of world war one that i'm aware of
02:09:42.440
is about three guys being hung because they ran back and they didn't and they got pointed out by their
02:09:50.860
commanding officers as somebody as tribute for the cowardice of running out of the trench of not
02:09:57.260
running out of the trenches when they were forced to by their commanders like what a sick weird war
02:10:03.740
that is i've got uh as we were talking a vet there reached out to me on twitter and i'll just read
02:10:12.060
what he said he said 95 of the dudes i know diagnosed with ptsd i know a shitload of them comes
02:10:17.900
from not being able to help people or just witnessing needless suffering of people who didn't deserve it
02:10:22.900
and can't defend themselves seeing your friends all fucking ripped up isn't great for mental health
02:10:28.060
fighting for nothing will fuck you up too but overall it's not usually what dicks up uh western
02:10:34.080
troops at scale actual scrapping taliban fucking dudes up is almost never a thing uh world war one
02:10:40.500
shaking shell shock is pretty much cte yeah uh collecting ear necklaces in defense of your family
02:10:46.160
homeland doesn't really equate to doing it for halliburton kbr it's a yeah exactly again the
02:10:51.820
reason why you're doing it matters um it's why you can see have you ever seen the shane shane gillis
02:10:59.080
talks about this guy sometimes but there's this old uh guy in the states who fought the japanese and
02:11:06.440
he just like i killed like he's like cotton hill he's like i killed about 50 men like how do you feel
02:11:12.100
about that great like yeah just totally content with what he did what he had to do and just like
02:11:20.080
not a care in the world about like yeah i don't mind what i did why because he understood the reasons
02:11:28.340
for it and um obviously that's well there's a difference there too in that the pacific theater
02:11:37.780
was more of a racial conflict than it was in europe obviously but um we'll do a couple of these before
02:11:45.620
we go on um miss moon aka the highland lassie says uh do not ask a man what he thinks of war you may
02:11:53.460
as well ask him what he thinks of stone before man was war waited the ultimate practice awaiting its
02:12:14.420
uh horus 1488 says every war is jewish i mean i think that's giving them a little bit too much
02:12:22.120
credit in the last 200 years or 150 i mean i don't know you can debate when but
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i mean i think that's obviously a massive oversimplification because war is just sometimes
02:12:35.600
so i think it's innate in human nature like it can you really blame the jews on the rwandans
02:12:42.620
and the tutsis or whatever hacking each other up with machetes that's just a human nature or
02:12:49.860
human nature maybe you say that and then like this saturday devin stack is going to be like the jewish
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no those those niggas would be asking each other up regardless they don't need a jew to do it okay
02:13:09.040
them niggas was scalping each other before a jew ever rubbed his hands on their land okay
02:13:17.640
yeah so like yeah but but there's probably some jew that's going to exacerbate any of those conflicts
02:13:26.540
or he's going to see like a diamond over there and he's going to be like oh yeah and i'm sure what
02:13:31.800
i'm sure what horus meant there is that um like what does that matter in the modern context
02:13:39.040
almost all of them are or literally all of them are so yeah either directly or indirectly
02:13:46.400
um general butt naked didn't need no rabbi yeah
02:14:02.260
adam systems is all wars are bankers wars yeah well this is why i'd like um people would be like
02:14:25.360
no more wars i'm like no actually there's some there's some wars i'd like i want to go to war
02:14:30.340
with india like can we do that like that sounds like fun like let's just go to war like just because
02:14:36.940
we don't like the the them in any capacity british raj 2.0 like that sounds cool like i'm okay with
02:14:44.640
that um yeah but uh yeah no obviously i don't want to fight i don't know germans or some shit
02:14:53.400
you know if there's too much peace who are we gonna fight right who how are we gonna let that out
02:15:04.960
we're gonna just turn on each other again is that is that the way that human nature works like can
02:15:11.660
europeans ever have peace with each other if they came to all the right answers and opinions and
02:15:17.260
harmony with each other or will they eventually turn on each other again over differences is that human
02:15:28.300
so there's a natural tendency to obviously it's like i'll use the british isles here
02:15:37.740
so the british isles for a long time where it was picks fighting you know north umbrians and north
02:15:45.480
umbrians fighting essex and essex fighting wessex and wessex fighting sussex and mercia and like all
02:15:52.760
these different warring factions genetically virtually identical genetically basically the same people
02:15:59.520
um but obviously tribes form and that like in the same way that um you know montreal will fight
02:16:07.940
toronto over fucking hockey right it's just these natural local tendencies that develop but what
02:16:13.660
inevitably ends up happening is that these groups uh intermingle and they find another group that they
02:16:21.720
have a bigger grievance with than the one that they had with each other and so they're able to put
02:16:27.240
aside those differences and so this is the process that begins to form nationalism which is a collection
02:16:31.800
of tribes or clans right that's how you get a national identity which is something related to ethnos not
02:16:38.800
just region but you know blood um right and so in the european context obviously this started
02:16:48.620
coming towards the end of the 19th century so in the early 1900s there was this kind of as we were
02:16:57.280
talking about earlier there was this kind of idea of like do we really want to go to war with each
02:17:01.880
other anymore because like things are pretty good and like actually when we work kind of together
02:17:07.620
in our you know management of global trade and whatnot it's really good for us it's like maybe we don't
02:17:13.940
want to do this this this dance of death with each other maybe we want to negotiate and work together
02:17:20.420
and actually bolster each other's empires as opposed to trying to undermine them it's like this kind of
02:17:25.280
thought was developing then obviously that gets blown apart because some fucking serb kills archduke
02:17:31.720
france ferdinand and the entire planet goes to war all right and then obviously it leads to the events of
02:17:38.600
world war ii and then basically the idea of empire and um colonialism is considered you know a faux pas or
02:17:47.000
like a taboo so do you think that trigger point there that you just mentioned the the assassination
02:17:52.200
that it could could have gone either way or that it was there an inevitable boiling point that was
02:17:59.820
happening there or or was it just oh so okay yeah so it wasn't just it almost happened it almost
02:18:07.420
happened like four or five times prior to that there was a whole bunch of peace conferences that
02:18:11.660
took place between the like you know the late 1800s and the outbreak of world war one things like um
02:18:18.660
de-armament uh limiting arms races like they were trying to avoid the process because they knew
02:18:24.600
like one event like that could easily trigger a global conflict and they were like people were
02:18:29.980
cognizant of it and they were trying to avoid it um but there was also people who were not trying to
02:18:36.540
avoid it so this is where it gets weird you had some people who were like actually um like in the case
02:18:42.220
of um like france um and russia um well so at least france france understood that germany was a growing
02:18:52.500
power that their birth rate was through the roof and that the longer this went on the the stronger
02:18:59.100
germany's hand would be in in a war with them whenever um in the case of russia russia was a
02:19:07.180
quickly industrializing population and so everybody was looking at it and saying yeah there's a lot of
02:19:12.420
people but like it's not really industrialized but if it ever does industrialize like who's going to
02:19:17.480
stop it like it's going to be a hundred million plus people 150 million people and now they have
02:19:23.100
industry like good luck like if they ever so like there was people who were like we should have a war
02:19:27.520
now um it's in our best like you know if germany's going to fight russia let's do it now before the
02:19:32.560
russians can urbanize and industrialize or for the french it's like let's fight germany now before they
02:19:38.360
get too big that we can't handle them anymore so there's that kind of stuff going on um but it was
02:19:44.460
going to happen either way and uh otto von bismarck actually called it like if you're not familiar he was
02:19:50.140
the he's the archetype or the architect of german unification and basically the the man who single-handedly
02:19:58.080
prevented europe from going to war for like 50 years um but he he called it um he's like if a general
02:20:06.320
european i think the quote is if a general european war breaks out it will be because of some damned fool
02:20:12.820
event in the balkans he was 100 right he called it so one of these lesser europeans if we may call
02:20:21.360
them that yeah no he was yeah he was the balkans are one of these like dude we barely let you into
02:20:28.320
the white race and you're and you're just popping off yeah it's a very fun guys it's a very famous
02:20:34.560
quote from bismarck but yeah that's what he was getting at is like it'll be some stupid thing that
02:20:40.740
some fucking slav does in the balkans the whole fucking and he was right he's 100 right oh man
02:20:48.480
there's whole conspiracies though about who was actually funding the black hand and whether or
02:20:56.300
not like i mean there's anti-semitic conspiracies about it there's anti-american conspiracies about
02:21:01.080
it there's anti-british conspiracies about it nobody really knows but it's the it's almost a certainty
02:21:08.520
that they were getting some kind of international funding which is interesting no i can imagine this
02:21:14.780
group that yaroslav was it yaroslav princip oh god what the fuck was his name it's princip something
02:21:26.540
anyways um i just wanted to jump back here where is it was it saw it again
02:21:36.460
the bosnia yara yavrilo princip yavrilo yeah was a bosnian bosnian serb student who assassinated
02:21:47.860
archduke franz ferdinand yeah uh here presumptive to the throne of austria-hungary and his wife
02:21:55.060
yeah sophie june 1914 triggered uh world war one yeah
02:22:02.380
um so barf mcgarf the alberta separatist is back he says it's economically better and completely sick
02:22:14.420
of paying for eastern canadastan this is such like a
02:22:18.940
again this is gonna piss off um a lot of westerners but like
02:22:28.880
you guys realize that the only reason you pay more is because of the huge corporate like when
02:22:37.120
you say you pay more like what do you think that that actually fucking means
02:22:41.780
you think that you're getting charged more taxes than we are do you think that it's like your twenty
02:22:50.500
dollars is like twenty dollars just being pulled out of your pocket and given to fucking joe in sarnia
02:22:56.320
so he can go buy a six-pack like what do you think equalization payments are and by the way
02:23:02.020
they're basically nothing i know that sucks like to say to you um because yeah you see the graph and
02:23:11.120
you see the big number and you see billion dollars and you're like we're getting robbed and like yeah
02:23:15.860
you kind of are because it's not cool that any amount of money is being pulled out of your province
02:23:21.160
um but also the entirety of equalization payments to like let's say quebec is obviously the biggest
02:23:32.700
recipient of them in 70 years in 70 fucking years all the equalization payments go going to quebec is
02:23:43.300
200 billion dollars in 70 years do you know how little that is we drop 40 billion dollars on indigenous
02:23:57.240
like albert did you know how much money alberta is pissing away on fucking pride crosswalks and
02:24:05.680
diversity initiatives and all the bullshit you guys are doing there too you guys act like it's like
02:24:11.320
oh if it wasn't for eastern canada we wouldn't have these these goddamn like they're just a parasite
02:24:16.600
no it's not it's really not and by the way just just so you guys know um the truth is you guys
02:24:25.260
actually have it way better and i don't know how to drive this point home but the average standard
02:24:31.340
of living for somebody in alberta is way higher than it is in eastern canada or in ontario um it's way
02:24:39.580
easier to get a high paying low skill job like for example you're just in construction in the oil
02:24:45.300
fields and your money goes further your housing is cheaper your cost of living is less all of these
02:24:50.660
things contribute to the fact that you guys actually have it pretty fucking good relative to the rest of
02:24:55.820
canada and then like you want to complain about equalization payments yeah they're wrong and they
02:25:02.060
need to be stopped but also stop acting like it's fucking you're getting hosed and like 30 percent of
02:25:08.540
your money is going towards i don't know some fishermen in nova scotia that's not what's fucking
02:25:13.840
happening but that's how it likes to people like to construe it a lot of the times it's simply not
02:25:18.580
what's going on so like what was the what was the total equalization in the like it was like 10
02:25:25.800
billion dollars or something i think like 10 billion dollars was taken from bc alberta saskatchewan
02:25:33.880
and ontario and redistributed to other parts of the country like do i agree with it no but it's guys
02:25:42.260
it's 10 billion dollars which is like we piss that away on nothing like it's all the time so if you
02:25:49.820
want to be mad at government wastage yeah so am i but be mad at the fact that we have 10 billion dollars
02:25:56.840
in fucking solar energy or some shit or be mad at the fact that they're trying to you know pass these
02:26:02.300
like ev vehicles or whatever like that's the areas that we're wasting money and being stupid
02:26:07.680
big j michigan says the thing that irks me is we don't drill or mine out east the maritime should
02:26:19.300
be rich and why does quebec need money they're huge yeah these are all valid points um the reason
02:26:24.680
quebec has money is because they have this looming threat of separation which honestly is the value of
02:26:31.820
creating a western block we've talked about it before why westerners continue to support the
02:26:39.300
conservative party is beyond me it doesn't make any sense they should form their own you know they did
02:26:44.880
it in the 90s it was called reform you should do that again call it the western block elect your own
02:26:50.660
politicians that are going to represent western influence you only need like 10 politicians in there
02:26:55.840
to really cause a lot of issues you get 10 seats in the house of commons and now all of a sudden
02:27:01.420
they're they're going to start giving you more of what you want if they want to pass anything
02:27:05.360
because you could be the deciding vote and on any given bill so that's the answer to getting more
02:27:12.580
influence in ottawa and getting more of what you if you want quebec to have less that's how you do it
02:27:17.540
you make it so that they don't have to pander to quebec and they have to start pandering to you
02:27:21.680
so yeah i don't know uh barf mcgarve says the balkanization of the confederation is coming i mean
02:27:31.420
yeah but that's happening everywhere regardless um i don't think it's necessarily like a a good thing
02:27:38.380
congratulations you'll have balkanized albertans next to northeast calgary so little calistan
02:27:51.060
so okay i gotta get something to eat but i'll let you continue fighting the alberta separatist
02:28:02.880
oh it's it's not man i agree it's so frustrating because it's like i agree with you i i fucking
02:28:09.260
agree with you what you guys are getting a raw end of the deal this is not gonna it's it's very
02:28:18.300
your your i i like in in terms of your grievances i 100 agree with you your solution is one that by
02:28:26.680
definite i can't agree with you so now like all you're doing as like an alberta nationalist or an
02:28:34.960
alberta separatist is separating yourself from all of the other nationalists in the country who actually
02:28:40.700
agree with you and you're doing you're doing that in favor of working with jeets and whatever other
02:28:49.280
diaspora population like who is involved in alberta separatism that you're going to be able to work with
02:28:54.900
that actually agrees with you ideologically it precludes you from the greater nationalist movement
02:28:59.960
when you do that yes yeah you're segmenting yourself off you're you're basically saying like
02:29:05.100
no i don't want your help it's like okay fine good luck i guess with your alberta nationalism project
02:29:12.080
yeah artorius says i fucking hate hearing albertans go on about the east is screwing them
02:29:20.640
like they think we're all living in mansions or something they just
02:29:23.720
it's because so there's this perception that like oh we just you know albertans are working
02:29:32.820
like crazy and you know there's just some fucking guy on the dole out east and it's like yeah don't
02:29:41.540
you think that he wishes like the truth is a lot of these guys wish they they had your deal like you
02:29:47.300
want to switch with them like you can you can live on fucking whatever you get from the government
02:29:53.240
every month and they'll have a job that pays them 150 000 a year like okay trade is that what you
02:30:00.480
want you want that deal because that's the deal that you'll get there's no jobs like that out east
02:30:05.020
or very few so this idea that like again i think like they're like it's the pull your pull yourselves
02:30:14.820
up by your bootstraps mentality that doesn't exist if you turn off the oil all of a sudden
02:30:20.920
they'll be singing a much different tune but um obviously i don't want that that's not a good
02:30:38.680
it's bad blood it's not something that we should be doing but i again they're gonna have to do it
02:30:44.920
uh dr jen before you go dr jenstein says thanks guys nothing but love yeah cheers jenstein thanks
02:30:52.380
a lot for the support oh sevens jenstein yeah well yeah thanks for having me on and uh i think i got a
02:30:59.220
bit of a history lesson there too and i need to brush up on my canadian history specifically
02:31:04.800
you know i i like i like getting into the history of the jq and stuff like that but there's nothing
02:31:12.780
like canadian history that could help us like figure out our past and define our future going
02:31:19.780
forward so we we need more of it it's why like i could probably do it but i would have to
02:31:25.880
i'd have to start setting aside like a day every weekend of where i'm just gonna do like basically
02:31:31.720
doing what devin stack does we're gonna deep dive on a on a specific topic in canadian history and
02:31:37.840
then go over it but like that's it's just it's a lot of work in the background to do it it would be
02:31:43.300
but if there's one guy that could do it and it would be worth the time like even in donations or
02:31:50.060
anything uh to make it lucrative and self-sustaining most importantly then i think it could be you that
02:31:57.820
could do that and clearly you have quite the knowledge on the topic right
02:32:04.660
um yeah this it gets into a lot more specific stuff though and i don't know like people say
02:32:11.260
they like it but then you start going into the deep dive of history and they zone out real quick
02:32:17.580
they don't mind it when you're talking like look there's like i can talk about it and i can make like
02:32:22.340
history generally interesting but when you start deep diving into a topic like i don't know i let's say
02:32:27.300
isaac brock's life and you're going through like you know the the intricate details and stuff like
02:32:33.940
that people start to zone out so i don't know well part of it is about taking the most important
02:32:40.400
details and then applying it to the future and and that's just about the you know mining the
02:32:47.080
information contextualizing it and putting it into a practical application which is in this case
02:32:54.140
getting gearing people towards remigration which is the current struggle right
02:32:59.120
well and uh like a re convert like uh redefining our national identity as well of course
02:33:09.560
um i mean people are reacting positively to the idea in the chat so i don't know maybe it's something i
02:33:18.820
should explore and i could just i suppose stop doing streams like this and start doing more focused
02:33:24.320
ones um well you could also just hop on the plat army ones yeah and then that that is like a substitute
02:33:32.620
for just like the twitter like scrolling through twitter and commenting on that stuff you could do that
02:33:38.700
kind of stuff during those streams but then focus more on like that takes no preparation really just
02:33:45.860
going off the dome but those could be much more focused to like a specific goal
02:33:52.060
yeah i don't know i'll think about it i'll have to see if i can line up like because how much can
02:33:59.580
you really do in a week right i mean like even if i was to do a series of these it's like what would
02:34:06.020
you want to focus on and like what would you really do and like what kind of source material are you
02:34:10.400
going to use um it could be like the canadian black pills where where it's just like you figure
02:34:16.240
out one specific story yeah and zero in on that and then uh try to configure it to something positive
02:34:24.480
going forward like a message a lesson and an action plan those are generally what people want
02:34:32.540
or what would be most productive with a program like that right because sometimes you get people who are
02:34:39.760
too into the weeds about the history of it and it's just like a history lesson with no actionable
02:34:46.140
plan going forward right and we don't really need anything like that at this point maybe maybe we do but
02:34:52.300
but like that that's something else that's something somebody else could do i think i do but that would
02:34:59.020
be the point is like the raw history already exists like if you want if you want to go learn about
02:35:05.340
whatever period in canadian history you can go do that both in documentary and book form obviously
02:35:11.700
but if you want it delivered from a nationalist perspective in terms of how this is relevant to
02:35:20.280
our current situation and how you can use this knowledge of our history as rhetorical you know
02:35:27.060
ammunition and in you know furthering our cause that's a different lens and perspective that's more of
02:35:33.440
like what black build does right like he's giving he's it's a spin like it's propaganda like i mean
02:35:39.900
it's good propaganda it's it's accurate propaganda it's factual propaganda it's still propaganda
02:35:44.700
but this particularly arms our audience and the radicals within our movement who can use this
02:35:55.580
as ammunition going forward like the people who could create videos who could create sub stacks
02:36:01.180
etc who can infiltrate their way into politics and or provide others that are doing that with
02:36:09.560
political messaging yeah all right um somebody asked a good question here though um bj michigan says
02:36:21.160
fairy do you think national socialism will or should play a role in canadian nationalism like it is in
02:36:27.280
australian nationalism the answer is like i think it's i think that it's inevitable that national
02:36:33.740
socialism is going to be something that uh resurges across the entire european world for obvious reasons
02:36:42.540
um it was one of the most successful it arguably it was the most successful nationalist movement of all
02:36:49.720
time so obviously people who are developing these kind of nationalistic sentiments are going to be drawn
02:36:57.320
to a certain extent by national socialism and what the nsdap did particularly in the 1920s and 30s
02:37:03.620
um it's like yeah obviously um it's going to play a role um do i think it is necessary no um this is where
02:37:16.180
keith keith keith woods and joel davis had a good back and forth exchange about this at one point
02:37:22.100
um and the basic premise of the arguments was keith woods was saying that we don't need to
02:37:28.820
rehabilitate national socialism for nationalism in the 21st century and that it's uh probably not
02:37:36.580
productive and that um it isn't necessary and that there's no reason to latch on to uh adolf hitler
02:37:43.800
and the nsdap uh you know to to create a modern nationalist movement and i i agree with that i
02:37:51.100
think he's correct um but joel joel davis's counter is like if i'm remembering correctly was basically
02:37:58.780
along the lines of you will never be able to have a cohesive you know nationalist worldview without
02:38:06.480
addressing the associations with national socialism and so this is what i've referred to as the
02:38:13.480
hitler question which is if you take on a an unapologetically nationalist perspective you're
02:38:20.760
eventually going to be compared to uh hitler and the nazis and the reason that your opponents are
02:38:27.380
going to do this to you is because they're correct in that a lot of the things that you will be
02:38:32.100
advocating for as a nationalist are going to be what the germans were trying to accomplish in the 1920s
02:38:37.740
and 30s why because it was a nationalistic government so obviously yeah there's going to be
02:38:42.860
similarities and you're going to face this question of of well you want that hitler wanted that too
02:38:48.300
are you hitler and so in order to advocate for your position you're going to have to be able to at
02:38:54.940
least you don't have to necessarily agree with everything that national socialism stood for or
02:38:59.420
you know the nsdap stood for but you do have to be able to address that question be like yeah hitler
02:39:05.360
did want that hitler was correct to want that hitler was correct to want secure borders hitler was
02:39:10.500
correct to want to stamp out transsexual ideology uh hitler was correct to want to put germans first
02:39:16.960
in germany uh hitler was correct in wanting to have a strong military and um you know to be and to
02:39:23.560
achieve autarky you know which is the the self-sustenance of your own nation these are all
02:39:29.340
good things to want to have like they're not inherently negative things so you will have to be
02:39:34.640
able to address that question and so that's why i'm kind of in the middle of those two i don't think
02:39:39.580
that national socialism is is necessary uh to have a nationalist movement in in the 21st century
02:39:46.080
but i do think that any successful nationalist movement is going to basically by definition
02:39:52.860
have to be able to defend the positions of the nsdap and basically allow for that segment of history
02:40:02.700
that you know um those subjects those historical subjects to be discussed freely so if you have a
02:40:09.340
nationalist movement and you're saying like we don't talk about the nsdap we don't talk about
02:40:13.920
hitler we don't talk about anything that they did they it doesn't exist it never like we just ignore
02:40:19.060
that completely you're fucked because you're not arming yourselves properly for the the conversations
02:40:24.360
in the debates that you're going to enter into well that's a good yeah that's a good point like it i
02:40:30.200
think a lot of the apprehension towards identifying with anything to do with the ndsap is just the
02:40:38.500
baggage that's associated with it like uh i don't think it's a good idea to start flying swastikas
02:40:44.960
for a nationalist movement here in canada and a largely that that's in part to the fact that it's
02:40:52.740
viewed as reprehensible within the overton window of the canadian population or any population at this
02:40:59.980
point so why would you try to start from the the hardest point the hardest starting point uh for one
02:41:08.200
and also it's just like you're gonna eventually reach these some of these conclusions with nationalism
02:41:17.660
why start at the thing that has the most baggage with it well so so the the answer of why start with
02:41:27.440
the thing that has the most baggage associated with it is because again you have you have to be able
02:41:34.160
to address like you cannot separate the situation that we are in now from world war ii like these
02:41:42.860
you can't you cannot fully understand the problem and you cannot fully help people understand the
02:41:50.140
problem unless you incorporate what happened in world war ii and that requires you to at the very
02:41:55.740
least and it doesn't mean you have to embrace it but what it does mean is that you have to be able
02:42:00.660
to look at the world war ii narrative and be like this was bullshit okay yeah it's not it's not
02:42:06.740
saying that i think that we should all be nazis and you know we should all embrace well i think the
02:42:13.260
biggest elephant in the room is that that particular symbol the swastika and the legacy of the nazis is that
02:42:20.380
they wanted to eradicate the jews from the planet basically and that's something that is illegal to say
02:42:27.760
that they didn't want to do it's illegal to say that in canada or in like 20 other western countries
02:42:34.880
which leaves us at that situation where how can you tell the truth about a situation when it is illegal
02:42:41.620
to say such a thing so i i understand that you still have to address that issue at some point
02:42:48.840
and yeah and yeah you you do like it's impossible it is impossible to avoid the question and like so
02:42:56.320
this is why like i like keith woods but like where i disagree with him is when he says like oh we don't
02:43:01.240
have to talk about it at all it's like but you're they're going to make you talk about it and the closer
02:43:05.980
you are to being successful the more they're going to hammer that point at you and the more they're
02:43:10.440
going to try to drive the associations and you can't back down from them because the moment you
02:43:15.700
i disavow nazism and national so so you disavow like 90 percent of the things that you agree with
02:43:22.840
right like those you agree with them so like this is the trap that they've got people in where it's
02:43:29.200
like well you want borders what are you some kind of nazi and they're like no no i'm not a nazi
02:43:34.360
well think of it like in the in the context i just put where they say it's it's in canada it's
02:43:41.780
illegal to say that the nazis didn't want to kill all the jews so then if they if you have any
02:43:49.320
similarities to the national socialism of the past then like is that mean that you wanted to kill all
02:43:57.640
the jews yourself or is it illegal to say that you actually don't want to do that and you actually have
02:44:04.340
alternative solutions to that it and you you need to be able to address historical revisionism
02:44:11.800
in that situation right so yeah exactly seager 88 makes an interesting point here on rumble he says
02:44:21.060
it's working quite well for the nsn yes it is now i bet if you ask them they would say that their
02:44:31.320
success is 100 because they openly embrace national socialism and they embrace that ideology and they
02:44:39.940
live it and that's why they're successful and i don't know maybe they're right i i don't know being
02:44:46.400
this is how i feel about it i think that their success is much more a result of the men that they
02:44:53.560
have than the ideology and so i think if jacob hersant and thomas sewell and joel davis and you
02:45:03.560
know all all their you know cast of of excellent men had taken on a more nativist you know australia
02:45:11.200
for the white man white you know white australia policy and just not embraced national socialism i think
02:45:17.680
they would be just as successful maybe more successful if they hadn't now like i i don't
02:45:23.580
know maybe i'm wrong like i'm not saying i'm right but i'm just saying i think it's much more
02:45:27.300
who is behind it than the ideology that they've embraced behind it like i think they could have
02:45:33.520
been successful basically whatever route they decided or however they decided to frame it because
02:45:38.980
of who they are well i think coming from the the base that they're great men then they could take
02:45:47.760
on like a strategy that implies a lot more character to be able to do it successfully as they have
02:45:55.480
which includes going toe-to-toe with the state with things that are outside of the overton window
02:46:01.520
like national socialist ideology and all their symbols and gestures and whatnot just like with
02:46:08.220
uh jacob hirsant uh flagrantly throwing romans right after it becomes illegal by the state
02:46:16.440
and then them using that to prove what tyrants they are and and i think it takes a certain resolve
02:46:23.600
of men and a certain quality of men to be able to do that successfully without completely losing
02:46:29.720
sight of what's going on or losing any all or any support you know many groups have fallen to the
02:46:37.200
wayside adopting this very radical type of strategy but these guys are one of at least
02:46:44.580
recent examples of people who are doing it very effectively and are still successful at it up to
02:46:51.320
this point well that's yeah i don't like again i don't know that i'm right but i i have a hunch that
02:46:58.980
it's them not the eye we've seen this it's like it's not like anybody can just pick up
02:47:04.920
uh natsock ideology and all of a sudden they're they fuck they're chads and they fucking get it
02:47:11.860
and they know how to play the game and they know how to like do the optics trap and they know how to
02:47:17.720
like you know put their messaging out there and be charismatic and all this stuff it's it's again i think
02:47:24.200
it's much more the people than it is the ideology in the same way that i think christianity was much
02:47:29.220
more shaped by the european people than european people were shaped by christianity oh yeah i agree
02:47:34.780
with that it's just like my perspective on it's like i think people matter more than ideologies
02:47:39.400
and again you can have very different you know um expressions of ideologies based on the people who
02:47:47.220
claim to you know um represent them so i think i think there's something with national socialism
02:47:53.780
that can even be justified and promoted and if you just look at the etymology of of the term
02:48:01.500
nationalism and socialism mixed together so you have nationalism where it's like a unified people
02:48:09.900
and then you have socialism which is something like a safety net for the people that are part of
02:48:15.380
that nationalist unit and just those two words put together that seems like a very
02:48:23.680
coherent ideology that would work great for a peoples well it did it did work great it worked great
02:48:30.860
so it's you know it's hilarious it seems like it was the the status quo but i'll give you a more
02:48:37.300
recent example so a lot of people i'm sure you've heard especially if you've been to university
02:48:42.680
in in in any humanities in university they love to jerk off scandinavia
02:48:48.140
like sweden norway denmark they love to talk about how great their system is you know because it's a
02:48:56.800
democratic socialist system that uh you know make sure that everybody's needs are met blah blah blah
02:49:02.640
so what they always leave out is that the reason it was so successful is that in the time that it was
02:49:08.320
implemented all of those countries were 99 plus whatever danish swedish um you know norwegian
02:49:16.680
icelandic um so like they were those things now as they brought in more and more foreign populations
02:49:25.280
like sweden is a great example of this obviously or great a terrible example of this is probably a
02:49:30.980
better way of saying it that system starts to fall apart and so it's interesting because they've done
02:49:36.920
so americans are very opposed to socialism now there's a theory as to why americans are opposed
02:49:43.680
to socialism and it has to do with demographics and so when 14 percent of your population is a
02:49:51.220
completely alien you know very unsuccessful very detrimental population to have around
02:49:57.460
right or 13 percent whatever it is um you could see why you would be opposed to giving tax dollars to
02:50:04.360
these people right they're not your people and they're not productive so like why would you want
02:50:09.120
to help them so there's a natural tendency like as a society becomes more multicultural there's less
02:50:14.500
socialistic tendencies within it and so they they see this in as uh scandinavia has gotten more
02:50:22.600
multicultural they have less socialistic tendencies which is why they don't like they don't want to
02:50:28.660
contribute to high taxes anymore and good social services and whatnot because it's not for their
02:50:33.800
people anymore it's for anybody who shows up it's like that makes total sense doesn't it it's just
02:50:40.060
literal human nature there why would you want to give your tax dollars exactly just somebody who
02:50:45.260
is completely foreign to you if somebody comes up to me on the street and says man i need five bucks
02:50:51.660
i'm like go fuck yourself if you came up to me and you're like dude i really need five bucks can you
02:50:55.960
i'd be like yeah of course man why because you're my people not this random fucking jug that just came up to
02:51:01.920
me on the side of the street that's not my fucking people i don't know who this guy is like of course
02:51:05.980
i don't want to help him but if it was my family or my friend yeah of course i would want to help him
02:51:10.560
so like yeah it becomes pretty obvious why socialism works when you have a homogenous population and the
02:51:16.440
more diverse it gets the less it works because the less people actually want to take part in it and the
02:51:21.400
more they start trying to cheat the system to get out of it so it's um
02:51:25.340
yeah well i think an interesting uh way to look at it is just that national socialism just as defined by
02:51:36.660
a homogenous society living under socialist tendencies that that is a status quo for a harmonious society
02:51:46.580
and of course uh in the german context with the ndsap it was or uh it was reactionary to a situation
02:51:58.420
with denmark or the scandinavian situations it was just the status quo it was just uh sorry sorry not
02:52:06.340
the default it was the default operational system for a successful european society that had not been
02:52:14.120
invaded or tested uh with with the pressures of multiculturalism and invasion um somebody else
02:52:26.400
said something here a big j michigan said on the one hand it is taboo on the other hand let's be real
02:52:32.080
hitler really resonates with the youth more so than john a or washington or napoleon he's not wrong
02:52:38.340
and the reason why i find that interesting is because but that's actually part of the problem
02:52:42.480
and so yes is it is it funny that the youth are they've turned hitler into punk rock
02:52:51.940
right that's what it is it's a counterculture and so the problem with that is that it is taboo and
02:53:01.440
it's being used because it's taboo it's basically that it's being used as a an anti-social you know
02:53:08.940
device now i'm not saying that's inherently bad but the the problem with it is that they're only
02:53:15.920
doing like at least a sizable portion of the people who are embracing hitler they're not doing it
02:53:23.720
genuinely they're doing it because it's like ah fucking libtards yeah watch how mad this libtard
02:53:30.400
gets when i post hitler like that's that's driving a lot of it and so that's not that's not like yes
02:53:36.820
that's kind of good because they're saying fuck the system but it's also not great and that they're
02:53:42.440
using it as like basic it's basically the equivalent of a spiked mohawk that's that's bright pink like
02:53:48.740
it's just an anti-social way of rebelling so yes it's good but also it's it's not correct
02:53:57.680
it's everything and anything at this point like our enemies will weaponize it uh hitler as much as they
02:54:04.640
can't against us it's just the name can't stop coming up well whether it's the punk rock version
02:54:11.160
of hitler or whether it's the the ultimate demon the ultimate satan version of hitler it's just ever
02:54:18.280
present and he's probably the the largest historical figure in history at this point the most talked
02:54:24.880
about you go on google like is hitler probably one of the most searched or talked about names in history
02:54:30.880
probably yeah and you and it overshadows everything and it overshadows our own historical
02:54:39.140
heroes that we need to know more about for our own specific canadian context yes um yeah diago
02:54:49.160
says hitler is the new site yeah in in holocaustianity universe yeah of course hitler is the new
02:54:55.600
we've talked about this before you can blaspheme christ but can you blaspheme the holocaust nope
02:55:02.000
you can you can say hail satan but can you say hail hitler nope like that just tells you like right
02:55:09.680
there at face value that tells you what the society's values are like it's more offensive to
02:55:14.720
heil hitler than satan like what the fuck like you're completely backwards as a country or if you
02:55:20.800
want to know my country's religion show me what i can't blaspheme yeah yep um all right there was
02:55:31.780
one from a man on the mountain here says your alberta passport has been revoked you may reapply
02:55:36.460
at any time at border point c aka checkpoint charlie i mean yeah i i know i'm gonna get the look look
02:55:45.200
you guys know i love i love alberta i loved living in alberta i only came back to be closer to family
02:55:50.780
um and because they're like i mean i had an opportunity here but like i liked living in
02:55:56.060
alberta um and i like the people generally there is a uniqueness to it but as i said before it's like
02:56:04.840
it's there's this thing where i don't know how to explain this there's like something about albertans
02:56:10.480
where they think they're uniquely unique you know what i mean yeah i don't see the difference between
02:56:17.260
i i have tons of family in alberta the difference is subtle it's and that's my point is like yes
02:56:23.180
rural ontario i i get it we understand you you're not a special snowflake it's it's just like
02:56:29.980
you you are unique right there is like a there is a culture and it is noticeable but it's it's not as
02:56:38.660
any it's not as any different as like if i go to southern ontario yeah it's got its own unique
02:56:44.840
kind of like little flavor to it but it's really not that different than rural alberta or something
02:56:50.460
and the same way that you know if i go to the maritimes yeah it's unique like you're going to
02:56:54.400
notice some differences but like not really that substantial when you when you really boil it down
02:56:59.720
like yes it's noticeable but not significant um i i have like there's this desire of albertans to be
02:57:10.040
like you like acknowledge that we are uniquely unique like that's what they want basically it's
02:57:17.900
like quebec they're like we want to be special boys to me alberta is kind of like quebec because
02:57:24.900
my whole mother's side is french in alberta but in a small in like a small town just outside of edmonton
02:57:32.000
called beaumont and it's all they're all french so to me like my alberta family is all fucking french
02:57:42.240
and like they're basically quebec so i don't know i i don't get that same vibe the same alberta buddy
02:57:50.580
i'm from alberta buddy you don't fuck with me so i had no burton say that to me too they're like
02:57:57.280
well you you mean like quebec like i was talking about this about how like why does alberta think
02:58:03.200
they're like uniquely unique and they're like well what about quebec and i was like that actually is
02:58:07.800
unique in the canadian context quebec is uniquely unique yeah like yes there's a lot of similarities
02:58:14.720
but all you have to do is if i go from here to montreal or even i don't know whatever the like
02:58:22.320
just over into gatineau there is a culture difference and you notice it immediately when
02:58:27.320
you drive across the border from ottawa to gatineau you notice the cultural difference immediately
02:58:32.660
for obvious fucking reasons they speak a different language so like yes yeah quebec is uniquely unique
02:58:40.220
in the canadian context of course it is um for obvious reasons yeah i will say though the french
02:58:48.160
there spoken there in beaumont or that area in alberta is phased out but they definitely do it
02:58:55.560
and it was like almost their first language i believe so i'm sure there's places in ontario that
02:59:01.940
are like that too but i'm one for one on french albertans uncle uncle semite says alberta uniqueness
02:59:10.360
was promised to us 3 000 years ago they are the chosen ones are they not they're the master
02:59:18.680
they need their own albertans they're the master canadians yeah they need they need bird is wrong
02:59:27.680
samuel champlain promised it to them 3 000 years ago or 500 years ago schmidt house podcast is the
02:59:40.100
west was also settled differently than the east we don't have the same founding as the old stock
02:59:44.520
canada uh yes and no um you're you're not wrong but i mean there is there is uh demographic evidence
02:59:56.180
on this um so if you look at the percentages of like uh out they break it down like the four
03:00:05.840
the shield canadians so english french scottish irish um it's something like 80 i think 80
03:00:13.800
something percent of albertans have one of those things in them
03:00:18.800
which is right which is a lot and ontario it's like 90 or something um sorry that might be of white
03:00:28.920
people obviously but like the like the difference is not that noticeable so like yes obviously the
03:00:35.300
western provinces because they had more later immigration from eastern europe or northern europe
03:00:41.220
there's more scandinavian influence there's more you know russian influence ukrainian influence hungarian
03:00:46.680
etc like yeah there there is some of that but to say that like it's it's completely different is just
03:00:53.300
incorrect and then on top of that most of those people spent some time in ontario so a lot of the
03:00:59.700
people that came to alberto were initially in the eastern provinces anyways so like the initial stock
03:01:07.640
that settled those areas was canadian a lot of them were from ontario a lot of them were from out east
03:01:13.920
that that moved later on they had been here for one or two generations and then they went west
03:01:18.820
so this idea that there's this like massive difference i think it's overplayed um and it's
03:01:28.000
usually attributed to things like the ukrainians like yeah that's a specific one where it's like
03:01:32.200
there's a lot of them in alberta um so like that has a distinct kind of difference to it but
03:01:38.680
yeah and this also came later in ontario too so in ontario you have larger like large populations
03:01:46.920
of italians and portuguese like you don't you don't see that as much out west but you see it in
03:01:52.040
ontario and and um specifically in the gta i definitely had a culture shock going to high school
03:01:59.120
where it amalgamated a few different nearby towns and then so many italian and portuguese were in my
03:02:07.500
2000 kid high school and that was a culture shock that did not feel
03:02:18.500
yeah yeah anyways i gotta go yeah but uh yeah thanks for having me on thanks for jumping on man
03:02:38.880
but yeah i think these these differences are overplayed um they really aren't that substantial
03:02:50.480
and ultimately we're united a lot more by our similarities than by these differences i think
03:02:56.480
i think these differences are things that people are searching for um
03:03:01.120
and hey like that's part of it too like i'm not i'm not necessarily trying to underplay or downplay
03:03:10.400
these um the significances of regionalism in canada it matters um the east coast culture is unique um
03:03:20.200
and it's awesome like the kitchen parties the pubs the fuck the celtic influence like all this stuff
03:03:26.880
yeah it's what makes the eastern provinces the eastern provinces it's something unique about it and
03:03:31.960
it's it's awesome um but that doesn't that doesn't override the the national spirit um which we see play
03:03:40.900
out um you know time and time again there's more that unites us than you know divides us so there's
03:03:47.640
some people that want to play into regional differences i think it's folly and you know
03:03:54.680
i think john a said it best um you know where's that that quote
03:04:02.120
it was basic it's basically something like if if you remain true to the vision and you stay united
03:04:07.240
canada will you know be a superpower basically uh if you don't it'll crumble um and he's right
03:04:13.720
he was right uh follow sherm jagger says anyone got a link to the canadian re-migration party again
03:04:25.560
the thing we talked about at the start of the show yeah so the dominion society it's dominion society.ca
03:04:30.920
and um it's uh it's not a political party but it is a uh a movement and they are taking
03:04:40.360
membership so yeah obviously uh man on the mountain says my relatives walked over the bering strait
03:04:46.280
ice bridge all the way to alberta all the children froze to death and were buried in the garden
03:04:51.560
at a residential school leave us alone it was a long walk we're tired yeah this poor albertans just you
03:04:58.840
know they climbed over here across the ice step you know just said they they sprouted cowboy hats
03:05:05.400
out of their heads and cowboy boots out of their feet and they just became what they are
03:05:16.040
uh celsa says like what rupert lowe is doing in the uk it's very similar to that his restoring britain
03:05:21.720
project that's it's very similar so it's the dominion society of canada so yeah
03:05:28.840
um i think it's an excellent project obviously the the two public facing guys of it are excellent
03:05:36.840
quality um we need something like it in canada um it's we need more honestly like we need more
03:05:44.040
organizations that have specific focuses like this uh big j michigan says would second sons work with
03:05:49.480
the dominion society i mean we're of course um of course we would um
03:05:56.200
like we'll work with anybody who is willing to work with us and has similar goals um
03:06:04.040
so yeah like i i mean not in a formal capacity are we like you know second sons supports this initiative
03:06:11.960
um but i mean i don't know why we wouldn't um but again it's not our initiative this is something
03:06:22.520
it's being done by them we support it or i support it anyways
03:06:56.600
look these are different these are different things though obviously so like people got into
03:07:03.800
this too of like second sons is a fraternal order right that's the easiest way to summarize
03:07:11.880
it's a club it's for guys who are like-minded who want uh you know to associate with similar-minded
03:07:17.800
people to maybe engage in a little political activism but it's it's a fraternal order it's not
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necessarily out there trying to politically agitate um you know think like uh the kinsmen
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or something like this is a uh a private members club um so it's not necessarily just like you can't
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just like apply and boom now you're part of it necessarily like you have to go through a process
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whereas something like the dominion society you go to their website right now you give them 25 bucks
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you apply you're supporting them boom you're a member you get your membership card you get your
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thing so like these are two different things that are trying to achieve different aims
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ours is trying to like rally and create this kind of network very close network of guys who are
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meeting regularly dominion society is something that's looking at more broad strokes
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um you know pushing certain rhetoric and ideas and trying to appeal to other like trying to wield
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political influence um so two two different attempts like i don't know in what capacity
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we can work together but obviously i'd be willing to in any way um adam says things how long is it
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supposed to take to get an interview for second sons anyway it really depends where you are and how
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many people are in the queue man some some areas there's very few applicants and so they'll probably go
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through quick and then other ones there's a lot of applicants and there's not enough people to
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process them so it is what it is like if it's months it could be months um
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all right i guess i'll leave her there for tonight
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uh secret 88 says rupert lowe is too race blind
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i mean i i would take a uh a rupert lowe in our parliament oh it sounds awesome
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one politician that is on board with remigration like i don't really care if they're that um
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you know race focused to be perfectly frank this is a this this kind of purity spiraling of
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i i know it like i don't even want to call it purity spiraling but this
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is the the perfect is the enemy of the good you know perfection is the enemy of progress and there's
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this kind of demand that people have in certain spaces where like if they are if they aren't this then
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they aren't good enough um i would rather people like rupert lowe you know that are working towards
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our goals maybe indirectly or you know not explicitly or whatever i'd rather have them than not um
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like this idea that there's a one size fits all solution and like if you don't meet you know
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what you know one two three four requirements then you're no good i mean it's not going to be beneficial
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to us uh james roo says where'd you get that shirt fairy i got it from uh vinland battlewear guys they
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gave it to me last summer it's pretty sweet it's got it's got a son and rat on the back it's pretty sweet
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i'm not turning around any more than that i don't know if you guys saw that but i'm not turning
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around any more than that my back hurts um a man on the mountain says when the 12 indian tribes
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of alberta quit drinking ralph klein will appear riding a a red cow
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what is this is biblical prophecies of alberta the fucking
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the badlands scrolls did you did you dig these up behind joseph smith's hut in alberta and out of
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the hat or something real peace says we need to stop the purity test i'm 29 black 70 jew one percent
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white but that one is very white look purity spiraling has its place but it also
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when it gets in the way of making progress then you've lost the plot and so
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if you're going to purity spiral over like look if if you're looking around and the people who are
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most adjacent to you um like the like the people who are most on side with you and you're like you're
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not good enough you're not good enough you're not good enough and then you find yourself and you're
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standing alone then you're probably purity spiraling too much
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um that doesn't mean throw away your standards internally whatever whatever your org standard
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is or whatever your personal standard is you can keep it but if it prevents you from working with
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other groups that are doing things that are in your interests or even like for example if somebody's
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not punching you why are you hitting them that's just a good question to ask to just a lot of
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nationalists in general if somebody is not openly antagonizing you and they're working towards goals
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that are in your interests why would you attack them why would you not support them
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um that's how i look at it um it's like people who attack jake shields or you know some of these
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you know influencers that are dabbling in the jq or nationalism and they spurred out about some
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random thing that they said it's like yeah but they're actually doing a lot of good for us like
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maybe just shut the fuck up you stupid fucking spurg something to consider
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uncle semite says yeah the only standard you need to follow is the one that cbc played on
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um boiling frogs is anyways i got work to do before applying i mean you can apply man
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but you're in quebec and we don't really have anything going in quebec sorry um it's on like
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obviously you know for canadian nationalists like we don't really do the whole french thing so as much
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as we love the french and the quebec law it's hard to lead any kind of group in quebec if you don't
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miss moon aka the highland last says it is hard to find white nationalists in rural bc that are not
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part native non-res part natives are the most racist pro-white people i've ever met yeah
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i i i know there's a lot of metis that are also very like it's kind of this weird phenomenon right
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where it's like they get it they just fucking get it because they've experienced it so yeah i understand
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um and honestly i don't i don't have that much of an issue with them um
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um they just seem like they they they want to just they like what we had and they want to go back to
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it so like i don't i don't know i don't have an issue with them
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real peace says make friends with chugs and you can hunt using traps i mean that's a good point
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frankly like i don't have that many issues i mean i've gone off about it before and obviously
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there's huge problems but like i don't really care about like being like i've never had major issues
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with them other than you know they get drunk and they do stupid but like i don't really understand i
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don't hate them um and frankly i could live with them
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um i know that's probably sound like that's probably fucking blasphemy to a lot of people
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listening but like i don't know they don't bother me that much
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magpie melodes says they throw car batteries in the rivers and they burn plastic yeah i know they
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there there's such it's such a diverse mix of like you get so many you get the insane like
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marxist commie ones that are just absolutely out of their fucking minds and then you get other ones
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that are pretty normal and they're just like actually i just kind of like living in canada and
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i kind of like the way it was and i don't really want to do this whole race war diversity stuff and
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you know the residential schools are bullshit like they get it like they're just kind of normal so
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i mean i don't know curtis says i live in winnipeg yeah if you live in certain areas you're probably more
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it's like with anything um if you live in new hampshire you probably don't have that negative
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an opinion of blacks do you why because you're never around them if you live in rural mississippi or
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you know somewhere in mississippi yeah you probably hate them um because you're around them constantly
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so yeah i you know i know it goes by who you live with and whatnot all right i'm gonna shut her down
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there everyone um thanks for tuning in i mean i don't know what happened to iron republic but that
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guy's a fucking legend so is jenstein obviously but that's the by far the biggest dono i've ever had
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and i think that he intends for it to be that way so that's fucking crazy um
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so cheers everybody i'll think about doing the history streams going forward um maybe i'll just pick
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something that interests me and i'll do one and see how it goes um
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yeah i'll think about it cheers everybody have a good night have a great week
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and uh i'll try i don't know i'll try to be back later in the week or something cheers