01:19:42.440We're going to replace the ministries, the ministries, the ministries, the ministries, the ministries, the deputy ministers, all of the high-ranking people within those departments, and replace them with your own people.
01:19:50.840Now, I'm going to ask you a question, and I'm sure you don't actually know the answer, and it's do you think that the PPC is ready to go in there and purge the entire bureaucracy and replace them with people who are going to be loyal to them?
01:21:39.360In theory, in theory, in theory, the bureaucracy is not supposed to be politicized.
01:21:44.960They're not supposed to serve one party or another, right?
01:21:48.280They're there to execute the legislation that is passed by the representatives of the people.
01:21:53.580That's not how it actually fucking works.
01:21:57.460And the left has done this methodically over generations.
01:22:01.640The right doesn't expect these bureaucracies to behave the way they're, in theory, supposed to, but they don't.
01:22:11.440And it's only in 2024, when Trump won the election, that he actually started doing this, where he actually was like, you're gone, you're gone, you're gone.
01:22:20.820Like, all these people are out, you know, purge these elected, like, this is what, you know, the DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency was.
01:22:28.480Yeah, that was a cover to get rid of a bunch of people that are not going to be, you know, supportive or aid in the execution of their legislation.
01:22:36.940And even then, he didn't go hard enough at it.
01:22:39.620So you have to, one, be willing to just start fucking taking heads off.
01:22:44.380And then, two, you have to actually have the people in place to replace the ones that you, you know, metaphorically execute.
01:22:53.180So if you want to start a political party, you better have a massive cultural, you know, movement that's backing it that has a lot of skilled people.
01:23:05.400And so this is why, if you get into, ultimately, what is Second Sons?
01:23:09.940What is, you know, a nationalist organization?
01:23:15.400Okay, it goes far beyond push-ups and combat sports and stuff like that.
01:23:19.760What you're doing is engaging in statecraft.
01:23:23.620Okay, it starts in a very small level, but the idea is to recruit more and more people to an organization like that, and then expand the sophistication of that organization.
01:23:35.400So when you have 20 guys in a little, you know, fitness club, yeah, you don't need a treasurer and you don't need, you know, you don't need departments.
01:23:43.220You don't need a propaganda department.
01:24:14.500And the idea behind this is that if you keep growing and you keep adding more and more people, eventually what you've built is going to resemble something like the state.
01:24:23.520So why do you think when the government, when a party is not in power, right, they have an opposition, right?
01:26:10.580The ultimate test, though, for Rupert Lowe is not if he can win a seat or he can win an election or if he can win, you know, the official opposition status or something like that.
01:26:27.600The real test for Rupert Lowe is will he publicly and actively work with our guys?
01:26:34.920Is he going to publicly and actively work with Steve Laws?
01:26:39.480I know that he is probably as like from what I can gather, he is working with him actively.
01:26:48.560But I haven't seen him doing it publicly.
01:26:52.220Is he going to publicly work with people like Mark Collett?
01:26:55.640Is he going to publicly work with organizations like, I don't know, White Vanguard?
01:27:01.420Is he going to publicly work with people like Laura Towler and God, what's his name?
01:27:24.740Is he going to publicly work with someone like Sam Melia?
01:27:26.860Is he going to work with, you know, people like Zoomer Historian, who has a huge, like, it's important not to underestimate how big these followings are and how influential they can be and how much support they can bring to you.
01:27:44.280Like you have this built in, you know, you know, you have this built in, you know, organic media system that can back your party, but only if you publicly and actively work with those people.
01:27:55.620Is Rupert Lowe going to run Steve Laws as a candidate?
01:27:59.040Is he going to run Mark Collett as a candidate?
01:28:02.460If he's not, then he doesn't pass the ultimate test.
01:28:09.760Which is ultimately like, you know, at the final moment, he's afraid of being associated with the people who are the reason that he is able to have this party to begin with.
01:28:22.840Because if it wasn't for their work, his thing wouldn't be working.
01:28:27.420They're the reason that remigration is a popular term.
01:28:30.640They're the reason why Britons are starting to assert their right to govern their own nation.
01:28:36.720They're the reason that, you know, white identitarian politics are on the upswing.
01:28:42.120And so if he can't work with those people, well, he's no different than any other politician who's come along and, you know, they flirt with these people or they kind of talk to them.
01:28:54.020And then ultimately they, you know, back down.
01:29:24.700I mean, you should be absolutely skeptical and cynical of politicians.
01:29:27.760And that's why I say the real test for Rupert Lowe and restore Britain is not that he's saying the right things.
01:29:34.820Is it's is he working with the right people?
01:29:38.600Because if he's just going to lift the talking points and rhetoric that was provided to him by people like Laws, call it, you know, Taller, Melia.
01:29:50.940I don't know why I'm blanking on them.
01:29:52.520But if he's just going to take their work and then run with the momentum that they built and basically refuse to acknowledge that they exist, then he it doesn't matter that he's saying the right things.
01:30:04.880He's just the next, you know, gatekeeper.
01:30:07.640So, you know, I hear good things from people I respect about him.
01:30:12.920You know, they'll admit that he's not perfect and this isn't like, you know, where it ultimately needs to go.
01:31:05.460I don't I don't trust like this is why I say the ultimate test is will he work with our guys and not apologize for it and not back down and not do this bullshit where he's like, well, I mean, I don't agree with everything they say.
01:31:23.160You know, they don't speak for me, but they're, you know, for the most part, they're good.
01:31:28.300And like, is he going to do the cop out bullshit?
01:31:30.640Kind of like what Candace Malcolm did with Daniel Tyree, which is like you obviously like Candace Malcolm obviously agrees with Daniel Tyree.
01:31:37.180And she does this thing where like, well, just because I spoke with him doesn't mean it's an endorsement of his views.
01:31:42.680It's like, but you do, though, like, stop stop doing this fucking game.
01:31:47.160Like, why don't you just admit like he's right?
01:31:52.720Why does he have to be the one that, you know, takes the bullshit while you get to just, you know, enjoy the ad revenue and the controversy and all that stuff?
01:32:25.200I mean, he said some base things and then there's other tweets that you can go back and find from even like, I think a couple of years ago where like, it's not good.
01:33:37.640And Steve Laws said it was a good analysis too.
01:33:40.200So, um, I'm sure, uh, you know, Mark's a sharp guy, but that's what I'm saying is Mark should be like, run him as a candidate, approach him and say, I want you to run.
01:33:51.700I want you to give speeches on behalf of this party.
01:33:54.420I want you involved in, in this project.
01:33:58.360Like I want Patriotic Alternative, not to support us.
01:34:02.220I want you to help, like to be involved with us.
01:34:06.140I want, I want people to know that Patriotic Alternative is an organization that we support and we work with.
01:34:14.020That's entirely different than going to Mark and saying, you know, can we count on you guys to vote for us?
01:34:19.400Will you tell your supporters, you know, will you, you know, in the back room here, you know, Hey Mark, like, I can't, you know, you're kind of like, there'll be issues if we do this publicly.
01:34:33.440But would you mind, you know, going on your show and, and, and, you know, saying that, you know, people should vote for us and, you know, that you support our message.
01:34:43.300Like, I can't, I can't, you know, return the favor, but could you do that for us?
01:35:00.640If you work as hard as Mark call it does, he's one of the hardest working guys in nationalism that I know, at least from what I can observe, seems like he works a lot and probably not for a ton of money.
01:35:11.340If he likes, if that's his way of unwinding, then go for it.
01:36:08.620I, even whenever I disagreed with him, I thought it was like, okay, like this comes from a, a genuine, like he's trying to have good faith discussions.
01:36:16.620Like that's, this is different than politics.
01:36:19.160You're, you're a fucking piece of shit.
01:36:28.060Like they had a, like a regular stream together at one point.
01:36:30.960Like you both came up at the same time together.
01:36:34.360And now that like Joel has gone like a different direction than you have and embraced, you know, the national socialism, whereas you embrace a more, um, like, like, I mean, you just don't embrace, you know, national socialism.
01:36:50.900You're just going to fucking ignore that.
01:37:11.280You're not going to talk about how absurd it is that they are, that the Australian government is putting people in prison for using, you know, phrases like rhetorical rape.
01:37:34.480Um, it has nothing to do with politics.
01:37:36.840It has to do with, you're just a shit bag friend.
01:37:41.280Imagine guys, imagine Jeremy got locked up or fuck somebody a little bit more distant, right?
01:37:50.880Imagine, uh, Greg Wycliffe got locked up and I just refused to acknowledge that it happened or I got locked up and Greg Wycliffe refused to acknowledge that it happened.
01:38:09.140We're not great friends, but we are, you know, we've known each other for a long time and we've worked together and we're cordial.
01:38:15.960And obviously we were going about things, you know, in slightly different ways, but I can't imagine that Greg would just ignore, you know, I'm just using him as an example, obviously, but you know what I'm saying?
01:38:26.960If Greg did that, I'd be like, you're a piece of shit.
01:38:29.040Or if I did that to Greg, I'd be like, I'm a piece of shit.
01:40:20.540So of course, um, they could try and pass laws like they did in Australia.
01:40:26.880Um, there's nothing really that you can do about that.
01:40:31.920Um, and if they push to the point where they do feel the need that they have to pass laws like that, it's a, it's a setback organizationally, but it's a metapolitical victory.
01:40:46.220Oh, because you've proven, uh, you forced a tyrant to act like one.
01:40:53.340So, um, this is why, again, why aren't these, you notice how these fucking influencers aren't talking about that?
01:41:01.340And if they are, it's to gloat about, oh, see, now they've just banned your organization.
01:41:36.060Um, nothing to get nothing against Alex was obviously, I think he's funny and he's doing good stuff, but, um, I just, I just don't like, I'm not, if I'll, maybe I'll play it at the end.
01:41:48.720I don't know, Alex, was there no problem, man?
01:41:53.860Oh, no, I guess it's just, I don't, I don't, I don't enjoy it.
01:42:27.680They almost always were abiding by the law and they got banned.
01:42:31.340You do not need to break the law to be effective as nationalists.
01:42:34.880In fact, you're way more effective whenever you remain within the boundaries of the law because it puts the state in a much more difficult position to deal with you.
01:43:04.060This is where I think it's valuable to have a conservative party in power, even if they are conservatives, less likely to outright ban things than leftist parties compare Rundo under Biden versus Trump.
01:43:14.520I don't think the administration in America had anything to do with the treatment of Rundo.
01:43:19.700Um, and also, um, uh, pretty sure he was being held by the state of California and it was the California, like, even if they are federal employees, like California state prosecutors and stuff like that, California state judges, um, you know, DAs and stuff like that.
01:43:37.860Uh, like they're not, the ones that are in California are not going to be aligned with the Trump administration just cause Trump's in power.
01:43:47.000So I don't think frankly, that, uh, situation has anything to do with administration, but if you're talking about, um, uh,
01:55:52.620Like, you know, I have no reason to doubt him and his integrity other than, I mean, there was the weird one with the fucking Jew and the Uber thing, which seemed kind of contrived.
01:56:04.480And, you know, he pushed the Gibson go for it.
01:56:06.360But other than that, you know, like Shiloh Hendricks didn't have an issue with him.
01:56:11.460So, look, if you want to donate, donate.
01:56:17.820I'm going to hold off on that until, you know, she speaks about it.
01:56:24.600Frankly, I think that you should, like, look, if you want to benefit from these things, you should speak up about it.
01:56:32.400Because part of the problem here is, like, what if people dump a whole bunch of money into that and then she apologizes?
01:57:51.920What else do you guys want to get into?
01:57:58.840I mean, we could do the, I don't know if I really want to do it.
01:58:02.580I kind of already did on Sunday with Derek and then again with Sewell about conservative influencers and I don't know why people keep falling for this.
01:58:14.220And I don't know, maybe I'm getting more and more cynical because I've just seen how this plays out over and over again now.
01:58:18.680But, um, too many people are giving too much credit to these fucking people.
02:00:09.220Like he says something like that's funny clip, obviously.
02:00:12.080But, uh, I don't, I don't really care about, you know, YouTubers with millions of followers making money off of, you know.
02:00:19.580Um, I mean, I, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
02:00:24.320I just, I don't really care to watch it.
02:00:27.220Um, but one thing that was interesting from that is that he said, uh, some in the video or in a post or something, you know, he used the term anti-goy.
02:00:39.080And, uh, this kind of set me off because another, uh, what would you call a telegram intellectual, you know, got into this thing where he was, um, you know, basically lecturing white nationalists or, um, you know, nationalists is, you know, whatever term you want to use for, um, leaning in to the terms that are thrown at us.
02:01:04.160For leaning into Nazi, for leaning into white supremacist, for leaning into racist, for leaning into anti-Semite, yada, yada, yada.
02:01:12.760Um, I don't understand how you can still think in 2026 that the correct approach to dealing with the pejoratives that are leveled against, you know, nationalists, um, is to engage in wordplay.
02:01:29.540I don't understand how you can still think that that is the, it's obviously just objectively not right.
02:01:42.780Um, yes, people have had some success in popularizing terms like anti-white, right?
02:01:50.640They've had some success in, you know, getting people to understand that Jews call us goyim.
02:01:56.580They've had some success in, you know, getting people to, um, you know, talk about, uh, anti-white hatred or like, um, you know, like they love using these terms, right?
02:02:12.220They're basically playing these word games of like, well, you know, they're not actually anti, the left isn't actually anti-racist.
02:02:26.840Do you think if enough people, you know, say, uh, you know, you're not anti-racist, you're anti-white, or you're, I'm not anti-Semitic, you're anti-goy.
02:02:43.500And the problem with this logic of like, we just need, you know, to jujitsu their little word games is that, well, here's what ends up happening.
02:02:55.120Um, and I went through this on my telegram.
02:02:57.180So if you guys know what I'm going to say, like, I don't know, tune out and come back in five minutes or something.
02:04:12.160And the answer is because go look up loxism.
02:04:15.460And the first thing that you're going to find is that this is a term that Nazis use.
02:04:19.680It's like, if you use that word, you're associated with Nazism, you're called a racist, you're called an anti-Semite, you're called a Nazi, you're called, you know, a bigot.
02:04:30.520If you use that term, it's the same thing as throwing up a fucking Roman to the people who are, who are in charge.
02:04:37.340So you haven't disabled the term being thrown at you.
02:04:42.240If, if a Jew, if, you know, the ADL says, oh, that's an anti-Semite and you go, well, no, I'm not an anti-Semite, but you're a loxist or you're an, you're anti-goy.
02:04:52.720What the ADL does is say, that's the kind of language that we often hear from Nazis.
02:05:31.220Well, the normies do, which is the whole point.
02:05:34.080The argument here is that don't call yourself a racist or don't call yourself a Nazi or don't lean into those terms because normies associate those terms with that.
02:05:44.120But they also will listen to the ADL and the mainstream media and the, like they listen to these experts, you know, less and less now, but it's not, they're not listening to them less and less because of clever wordplay.
02:05:59.380They're listening to them less and less because nobody gives a shit more, fewer and fewer people give a shit about being called a racist.
02:06:06.660The reason that we're winning in this, uh, you know, rhetorical battle is because so many people are just going when they're called an anti-Semite or a racist, they're just going, yeah, I am.
02:06:37.460He says like, I've seen him do this a bunch of times recently on Twitter.
02:06:40.900Uh, when somebody calls whatever group racist, his response is, if you're a white person at this time who isn't being called racist, it's because you're an idiot.
02:07:23.880So what you're doing when you engage in that fucking childish, you know, tit for tat name calling is you're reinforcing the notion that it's bad to be opposed to certain groups.
02:07:39.040You're reinforcing the notion that, um, you know, you're reinforcing their moral framework by denying that you are the thing that they claim you are because it's a bad thing.
02:07:57.800It's not like that's the correct response.
02:08:00.560So, um, anyways, I saw that with the Tyler Olivera video.
02:08:06.180He says, you know, I forget how it was phrased.
02:08:10.660It was something like they call me, you know, anti-Semitic, but they're anti-goy or anti-goy.
02:08:15.680Like he had anti-goy ism in the title or something.
02:08:19.640And, um, yeah, like it's funny and it's clever and you can use it.
02:08:23.800But if you think that that's a weapon in this fight, you're sorely mistaken.
02:08:27.940Ultimately, the way you beat it is not by using a different term, you know, to attack them.
02:08:32.380It's by taking away the power of words altogether.
02:08:35.000Um, and what this ultimately boils down to is victim morality versus conqueror mentality or oppressor mentality or oppressed mentality versus, you know, um, free mentality.
02:08:55.980The reason that we have so many of the problems that we have in society now is because everything is governed by a victim morality.
02:09:05.000Um, you get bonus points in society for being a victim, whether it's, oh, I, I have ADHD, so I need, you know, special, you know, extra time to do my tests.
02:09:23.420And I need, I need that to be considered in my performance or, oh, I have a disability.
02:09:29.620So, like, I need, you know, to be, I need special treatment.
02:09:33.580Um, you know, I'm, I'm a racial minority, so I should, you know, you, you should treat me special.
02:09:40.060I, I'm a woman, so I should be, you know, that should be accounted for, you know, in, in my, um, the execution of my duties, right?
02:11:07.960You know, the efficient and the effective is entitled, you know, to, to, um, you know, privilege and power because they're the ones who are the most capable.
02:11:19.640It's not a, it's not a, it's not a fucking bonus point to have a mental disorder or a disability.
02:11:26.480That doesn't mean you can't overcome those things, but you shouldn't be, that shouldn't entitle you to positions of power and influence.
02:11:34.540It's the conqueror mentality versus the slave mentality, basically.
02:11:42.700Um, this is why, like, again, bullying, like, what did they do now?
02:11:50.620They, they, they bully the perceived bully, right?
02:11:54.400Like, look at, like, we just had this fucking bully day in Canada.
02:11:57.680I'm like, what's the whole point of it?
02:11:59.820Like all of everybody gang up and like, you know, points out the person who is the bully.
02:12:05.280And like, you, you, you fucking, you know, get them like, it's an inverted morality.
02:12:13.160Bullying has a purpose, like a societal evolutionary, uh, purpose, which is to enforce, you know, uh, behavior that's considered, uh, uh, socially acceptable.
02:12:39.800It's a bunch of fucking HR ladies and faggots running around trying to tell healthy, strong, normal people that they need to fucking be more.
02:12:47.820You need to do this and you need to do that.
02:12:50.080If you don't fucking do this, I'm going to tell on you.
02:12:52.620Um, it's, it's just the inverted morality.
02:12:58.640So anyways, that's, uh, enough on that topic.
02:13:08.440Snitter says most of the people here whining now is a direct result of their behavior, not having been corrected when it should have been exactly.
02:13:14.100And this is the, you see this all the time.
02:13:16.600Um, you see this with things like I was talking about it.
02:13:22.620Recently with, you know, kids and, um, their parents and this look, when it comes to things like ADHD or learning disorders, stuff like that, some of it is because of the school system, uh, you know, and, and how it's, uh, how education is carried out.
02:13:41.600But yeah, of course that's, uh, part of it.
02:13:43.860Part of this is like, they're not getting, kids aren't getting enough diet and exercise and that's partially, sorry, proper diet and enough exercise.
02:13:51.480And that's partially the responsibility, at least of the parents.
02:14:16.060And so they prescribe them fucking drugs.
02:14:18.300And what do the parents do off finally, like this will help the child because, you know, clearly they've been struggling and this is, um, you know, they need this.
02:14:27.220Do they, would they need it if they were getting enough exercise, would they need it if they were socializing and not spending, you know, all their time playing video games and looking at a fucking iPad, would they need it if they were getting a proper diet, would they need it?
02:14:41.400Like if they had, you know, purposeful, meaningful interactions with their extended family and stuff like, would they need it if it wasn't for all of these things that you're not doing?
02:14:49.520And so what, what they've done is they've built in through victim mentality, this, you know, coping mechanism for people who don't want to change behaviors that are causing the problems to begin with.
02:15:00.940And so now the parent, you know, who's feeding their kid trash, not paying them enough attention, not doing enough productive things with them, you know, not making sure they're exercising, not, you know, whatever, like all of these things.
02:15:12.320And they go, oh, well, they're just, they have a disability.
02:16:14.560I'm going to do one more quick break and then I'll come back and I don't know.
02:16:17.700Maybe I'll do the conservative influencer thing.
02:16:23.080The insane, sorry, the insane rat catcher says kind of missed the days when you settled things by beating each other bloody one-on-one, then ended as friends or at least respected each other afterward.
02:16:37.880This is one thing that they've told kids do.
02:16:40.140They tell them that, you know, well, they say violence is never acceptable, that violence is never an appropriate response.
02:17:18.820If someone attacks your friend and they're using violence, you cannot deal with that.
02:17:23.680You can't politely negotiate your way out of that situation.
02:17:28.080You have to use force, which is violence.
02:17:32.060When someone will not, if someone comes to you and they, whatever, like, okay, maybe violence isn't the answer when someone calls you names, right?