The Ferryman's Toll - March 14, 2026


The Daily Toll with Graham Connolly & Tim Lutze


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 10 minutes

Words per Minute

171.03471

Word Count

32,643

Sentence Count

147

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

170


Summary

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A Good Omens poem written by a man who served in the Irish Civil War. This poem was written to commemorate the life and memory of a fallen soldier and the memory of those who served with him in the Civil War

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
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00:00:30.000 Thank you.
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00:04:00.000 T'was down the glen one Easter morn
00:04:09.760 To a city fair old I
00:04:12.900 Those armor lines a margin man
00:04:17.320 In squadrons pass me by
00:04:20.580 No pipe did hum, no battle drum
00:04:24.800 Did sound its dread tattoo
00:04:27.580 But the Angelus Bells or the Liffey Swell
00:04:32.240 Rang out all the foggy dew
00:04:35.480 From proudly high over Dublin town
00:04:47.260 They hung out the flag of war
00:04:50.580 It was better to die deep in Irish sky
00:04:54.780 And it's two of Lars at Elbar
00:04:57.900 And from the brains of Ryan Meade
00:05:02.440 Strong men came reading through
00:05:05.540 And while the tangents hunt
00:05:08.020 With their long-range guns
00:05:09.820 Sailed out all the foggy do
00:05:13.020 Cause England made our wild geese fly
00:05:24.660 That small nations might be free
00:05:28.020 The lonely graves are by soothless waves
00:05:32.340 The fringe of the great North Sea
00:05:35.600 Oh, had they died by bears aside
00:05:39.780 I'll fuck with Calhoun Rue
00:05:43.200 I'll turn your name to a keep
00:05:45.440 Where the phoenix sleep
00:05:47.200 And it will shred with the foggy dew
00:05:50.500 Yeah!
00:06:09.780 But the bravest bell
00:06:21.300 As a requiem bell
00:06:22.800 Rang mournfully and clear
00:06:25.920 For both who died
00:06:28.740 At Easter tight
00:06:30.380 In the springtime of the year
00:06:33.460 And the world did gaze
00:06:36.520 With diva maize
00:06:37.940 And I'll fear the men that do
00:06:41.120 Before the fights of freedom's light
00:06:45.340 Might shine to the foggy do
00:06:48.380 Before the fights of freedom's light
00:06:52.860 Might shine to the foggy do
00:06:56.160 Might shine to the foggy do
00:06:59.760 Might shine to the foggy do
00:07:06.440 do
00:07:08.380 Oh it's down there
00:07:22.180 Glen came the Calpynes
00:07:24.180 men with the shovel
00:07:25.720 slung behind them
00:07:28.140 T'was in the
00:07:30.280 pub they drank the
00:07:32.340 sub and up in the
00:07:34.340 spike you'll find them
00:07:36.160 They sweated blood
00:07:38.520 And they washed down the mud
00:07:40.800 With pints and quarts of beer
00:07:43.660 And now we're on the road again
00:07:48.520 With McAlpine's Fusiliers
00:07:51.920 I scrubbed to the skin
00:07:54.780 With darky flint
00:07:56.520 Down in the Isle of Grey
00:07:59.940 With horse face to
00:08:02.680 Sure I know the rule
00:08:04.840 No money if you stop for rain
00:08:08.040 McAlpine's gone, was a well-filled heart
00:08:12.840 Your shoulders cut to bits and sear
00:08:15.880 And woe to he who went to the party
00:08:20.380 Was McAlpine's few years
00:08:23.960 Ooh-wee-ooh, ooh-wee-ooh
00:08:28.660 Ooh-wee-ooh, ooh-wee-ooh
00:08:32.660 I remember the day when the barrow shade fell into a concrete stairs
00:08:39.940 What the harsh face said when he found him dead
00:08:44.720 But it wasn't what the rich caught prayers
00:08:48.040 Like an Abbey chart was the one retart that reached out to my ears
00:08:56.060 And when the gun is rough, well, you must be tough
00:09:00.480 With McAlpine's Musileers
00:09:26.060 I worked held a sweat while it had me bent
00:09:40.500 With rushes, checks and clothes
00:09:43.940 On shuddering jumps in the hydra dams
00:09:48.940 Or underneath the Thames in a hole
00:09:51.700 I grafted hard
00:09:54.620 And I got me cards
00:09:56.880 And many a daggers
00:09:58.280 Fist across me ears
00:09:59.880 If you value your life
00:10:02.800 Well don't join my Christ
00:10:04.540 With my Alpine Spusiliers
00:10:07.800 If you value your life
00:10:10.760 Well don't join my Christ
00:10:12.500 With my Alpine Spusiliers
00:10:21.700 We'll be right back.
00:10:51.700 You're the fighter, you've got the fighter
00:10:56.800 The spirit of a warrior, the champion's heart
00:11:02.000 You fight for your life, because a fighter never quits
00:11:06.700 You make the most of them, you're dealt because a fighter never wins
00:11:13.400 No!
00:11:15.420 You were born a box in a city that seemed to share
00:11:22.140 Mellow, rye, and carny among them
00:11:26.980 Your photo proudly hangs there
00:11:29.620 Up on the bar in the Gaelic club
00:11:31.780 They tell the story of a throwback
00:11:34.900 With the heart of a lion
00:11:36.740 There's no blue-john-lawless
00:11:39.400 It's another murderous fight
00:11:51.580 Another left foot from hell
00:11:54.480 A bloody woman, a born walk
00:11:57.500 And a kid from lower eyes as to the dead
00:12:01.060 Nicky, it's a warrior's kill
00:12:06.340 Mickey
00:12:08.800 He's got the warrior's soul
00:12:12.560 Mickey
00:12:29.100 He's the warrior's soul
00:12:32.400 Mickey
00:12:34.460 He's a warrior's soul
00:12:37.840 He's a warrior's soul
00:13:04.460 I'm on the way down to the quay
00:13:13.160 Where the big ship lies in bay
00:13:15.260 To command a gang of navis
00:13:17.660 I was told to engage
00:13:20.000 I thought I'd drop in for a drink
00:13:22.880 Before I went away
00:13:24.700 But to take a trip on an emigrant ship
00:13:27.580 To the shores of Putney Bay
00:13:29.640 Farewell to your brits and mother
00:13:32.080 Farewell to your dirty lion
00:13:34.360 Farewell to your gangways and your gangplanks
00:13:37.240 Into hell which you're over time
00:13:39.300 But the good ship ragamuffin
00:13:41.680 Is lying at the quay
00:13:44.160 For to take old Pat with the shovel
00:13:46.260 On his back to the shores of Platny Bay
00:13:48.720 But the boss came up this morning
00:13:52.460 Well he said well Pat hello
00:13:54.480 If you don't get them navvies out
00:13:57.640 I'm afraid you'll have to go
00:13:59.460 So I asked them for me wages
00:14:02.060 And a man to tell me pay
00:14:04.420 And a cold and straight
00:14:06.060 I would emigrate to the shores of Butney Bay
00:14:09.120 Farewell to your bricks and marble
00:14:11.600 Farewell to your dirty line
00:14:14.060 Farewell to your gangways and your gangplains
00:14:16.820 Set to hell which are over time
00:14:18.880 For the good ship Ragamuffin
00:14:21.240 Is lying at the quay
00:14:23.720 For to take old bat with his shovel
00:14:25.840 On his back to the shores of Butney Bay
00:14:32.060 The best years of our lives we spent
00:14:51.660 At working on the docks
00:14:53.600 Building mighty worms in caves
00:14:56.480 Of their dumb ballast rocks
00:14:58.360 Our pensions keep our lives secure
00:15:01.240 But I am a crew today
00:15:03.100 When I take the trip
00:15:04.820 When an emigrant
00:15:05.620 Shift to the shores
00:15:06.780 Of Botany Bay
00:15:07.900 Farewell to your bricks
00:15:09.620 And mother
00:15:10.460 Farewell to your
00:15:11.760 Duck to your line
00:15:12.860 Farewell to your gang
00:15:14.380 Wires and your gang
00:15:15.280 Thanks to the hell
00:15:16.180 Which are over time
00:15:17.680 For the good ship
00:15:18.840 Ragamorfen
00:15:19.940 Is lying at the quay
00:15:22.500 For to take a pat
00:15:24.020 With a shovel
00:15:24.640 On his back
00:15:25.220 To the shores
00:15:26.040 Of Botany Bay
00:15:27.100 And when I reach
00:15:30.060 Australia
00:15:30.780 I'll go and search for gold
00:15:33.300 There's plenty there for digging up
00:15:35.940 Or so I have been told
00:15:38.100 But I might go back into me trade
00:15:40.820 Eight hundred bricks I lay
00:15:42.780 For an eight-hour day, for an eight-hour day
00:15:45.620 And the shores of Bodney Bay
00:15:47.540 Farewell to your bricks and mother
00:15:50.060 Farewell to your dirty line
00:15:52.460 Farewell to your gangways and your gangplanks
00:15:55.220 And the hell which are over time
00:15:57.280 For the good ship Ragamuffin'
00:15:59.640 Is lying at the quay
00:16:02.140 For to take a bat with a shovel on his back
00:16:04.820 To the shores of Bodney Bay
00:16:06.680 I am on me way down to the quay
00:16:10.740 Where the big ship lies in bay
00:16:12.820 To command a gang of navvies
00:16:15.240 I was told to engage
00:16:17.580 I thought I'd drop in for a drink
00:16:20.400 Before I went away
00:16:22.360 For to take a trip on an emigrant ship
00:16:25.140 To the shores of Bodney Bay
00:16:27.180 Farewell to your bricks and mother
00:16:29.580 Farewell to your dirty line
00:16:32.040 Farewell to your gangways
00:16:33.900 And your gangplains
00:16:34.820 Into hell, which are over time
00:16:36.860 For the good ship Ragamuffin
00:16:39.200 Is lying at the gate
00:16:41.660 Got to take a pat with a shovel
00:16:43.820 On a spark to the shores of Plattly Bay
00:16:46.280 Farewell to your bricks and mother
00:16:48.860 Farewell to your dirty line
00:16:51.280 Farewell to your gangways
00:16:53.120 And your gangplains
00:16:53.960 Into hell, which are over time
00:16:56.060 For the good ship rag and woman is lying at the quay
00:17:00.900 For the tickle pat with the shovel on his back to the shores of Hattie Bay
00:17:26.060 what's going on everybody it's saturday well or sunday i guess if you're in australia but
00:17:39.600 march 14th or 15th 2026 and we've got a fun one tonight should be a pretty
00:17:46.620 casual one uh we've got uh tim lutz or actually i should have asked him that i don't even know
00:17:53.260 how to pronounce his name properly i always hear it two different ways so we'll talk about that in
00:17:56.700 two seconds but uh and graham connelly not awfully i don't know why like i knew his name was graham
00:18:02.360 connelly and i originally put awfully on the thumbnail for the video but you know it is what
00:18:08.720 it is so uh we'll get them in here in just a second uh before i do that i just want to shill
00:18:14.720 uh you know the aussie give send goes again uh because they do they are going to need uh some
00:18:20.760 help um so there's a joel is uh they've hit the 40 000 uh you know australian dollars target
00:18:29.240 and uh they're gonna need probably more than that with the number of cases and charges that he has
00:18:35.560 um you know coming up so uh you know if you can you know anything helps toss a donation in there
00:18:43.240 uh that's uh give send go.com forward slash support joel davis and then as well obviously
00:18:48.360 we've got uh uh brandon koshel who was uh imprisoned for a year in australia for saying
00:18:56.680 that jews are the number one enemy of the australian people and somehow he ended up
00:19:02.120 getting jailed by jews for that so it's uh you know odd what an odd thing to do um anyways uh
00:19:10.120 help those guys out if you can that one is give send go.com forward slash brandon's family and
00:19:15.580 it's brandon uh b-r-a-n-d-a-n not o-n um but i'll bring that those up again uh probably a couple
00:19:24.200 more times uh before the stream's over and uh let's just get into it all right so we've got uh
00:19:30.580 tim lutz tim lutes i'm gonna guess that it's lutes but he can tell me that in two seconds
00:19:35.980 and uh graham awfully connelly connelly awfully connelly what's going on guys i was awfully
00:19:44.280 offended. As a dad joke, I'm a
00:19:46.320 dad now. I can make dad jokes.
00:19:48.880 First of all,
00:19:49.860 most people say Lutz. I think
00:19:53.960 technically if you're German, it's Lutz there. That's what
00:19:56.200 Tom likes to say because he's always correct about everything.
00:19:58.920 Yeah, it's fair.
00:20:00.740 Yeah. Secondly,
00:20:02.240 what's up Canada, Australia,
00:20:04.600 all our fans around the world,
00:20:06.620 ASIO, SIU,
00:20:08.540 everybody watching, what's
00:20:10.220 going on? We've got the chat up here.
00:20:12.040 so say hello from australia to csis the canadian anti-hate network and uh i don't know the rest
00:20:22.280 aren't really important at all not that the first two are but cbc i guess they'll they'll probably
00:20:27.080 will be watching this one so yep oh you don't want to say hello to them you can flip them off too if
00:20:32.600 you want yeah oh forward slash so it's uh sunday morning there for you guys i know uh graham you've
00:20:44.040 been busy doing some moving and stuff like that uh but otherwise i mean you guys have been like
00:20:49.800 you're you know kind of some down time i guess right compared to what you were before oh yeah
00:20:54.840 Yeah, the lawn looks great.
00:20:57.280 Perfect.
00:20:58.600 Yeah, so we did talk about this a little bit before we came on.
00:21:03.540 And what did you caption this video again?
00:21:07.340 A normie's dream is a nationalist nightmare.
00:21:10.620 Yeah.
00:21:11.260 Tim posted this on his Telegram, and I got a good chuckle out of it
00:21:14.740 because I feel like this is what it would be like.
00:21:16.660 I can relate.
00:21:17.320 Like, what would you do if it just stopped, right?
00:21:19.740 this video perfect perfectly captures how it was the weeks after the disbandment yeah
00:21:28.280 well i mean you know the john travolta meme where he's like going now what yeah
00:21:34.920 yeah i can imagine that that meme like that's joel when he gets out of prison
00:21:40.660 you know hopefully very soon he just comes out and he's just like where is everyone
00:21:45.700 right yeah that yeah that's gonna be a one for him to adjust to hopefully whenever he
00:21:52.480 does get out of jail like it's yeah we'll get into that as well i guess but uh we'll play this
00:21:56.680 little video here because i don't know i got a good chuckle out of it i went to go cut the grass
00:22:00.680 then noticed the windows are bloody filthy so i went to get the window cleaned up bloody forgot
00:22:05.100 about it and started sweeping the shed made a quick cup of tea then noticed the leaves
00:22:09.540 went to go grab the rake ended up grabbing the shovel to dig these agapanthers out then i noticed
00:22:14.660 the bins need to be taken in and then i noticed the bloody hedge needs trimming to go in the shed
00:22:19.400 bloody lock quick cup of tea special buys i'm going down the audi hit the fucking bins then
00:22:24.640 i remembered the bloody hedges went into the garage then decided to work on my car then i
00:22:29.320 couldn't turn my bloody phone torch on went inside to get the big torch ended up patting the catahate
00:22:34.380 for 20 minutes quick cup of tea smoke to darren for 20 minutes all right mate i better go i've
00:22:39.220 got that much to bloody do today back to the lawn this needs to be cut i go in the shed
00:22:44.040 get the lawnmower nothing can bloody stop me did me back oh just did me bloody back
00:22:49.060 oh my back oh fuck it
00:22:53.540 yeah life after disbandment that video used to be funny now it's just sad yeah
00:23:04.900 it's sad in that context for sure because it's almost like you know the meme from uh narcos
00:23:12.660 pablo escobar where he's just like standing in the pool or like sitting at the table or like yeah
00:23:19.060 all these memes are bringing up uh the night the night that all the chats were closed or or
00:23:25.780 you know um all these memes were put in the chat like the exact ones you're talking about
00:23:31.140 yeah i mean like i can't i can't imagine it'd be like oh hopefully obviously this doesn't last
00:23:37.300 forever and you know there's a repeal yeah information yeah yeah yeah i think yeah tom
00:23:44.660 was right and it's true too like a lot of people when it first came up i saw a lot of speculation
00:23:50.900 of like oh they're not actually going to you they would never and i was like have you guys
00:23:54.180 like i knew it was real when he was tom was mentioning it and the other guys were mentioning
00:23:58.340 because i read the legislation i was like that is um it's the most opinion piece of legislation
00:24:04.260 i think that's ever been introduced in a western democracy it's insane yeah it's basically
00:24:09.540 point and shoot license to kill um legislation that requires no evidence no justification nothing
00:24:17.940 to to back the decision to prohibit a group so i was like wow like there's nothing else you can do
00:24:23.460 unless you want to send a whole bunch of people to jail our leaders are are they're intelligent and
00:24:29.780 decisive when when they're when they're at it they knew what needed to be done you know
00:24:34.140 there is no no there was no question whether it was going to be used on us or not going to be used
00:24:39.300 on us you know that these conditions are going to be put on us and it would have made it very hard to
00:24:43.480 even associate as friends you know if we if we didn't disband when we disbanded and i i didn't
00:24:49.500 accept it at first graham was like i was like no no this can't be the way and graham's telling
00:24:54.460 because i'm not really i wasn't allowed to talk to a lot of people because of my bowel conditions
00:24:57.840 and Graham's like trying to explain to me that it's a way because I hate to lose more than I
00:25:03.620 love to win and and I you know I never black pill but I take losses very hard you know I understand
00:25:09.820 that losses are just lessons you need to learn but I take losing very personally you know when
00:25:15.140 I lost my gym it was a real loss you know when I couldn't renew the lease on the property because
00:25:20.880 of all the harassment and the protests I you know that was a loss and everyone was like oh no it's
00:25:26.620 you know they're trying to paint it as some sort of thing that it wasn't and i was saying no you
00:25:30.920 guys like especially white nationalism you need to learn how to take a loss and when you've lost
00:25:36.800 so that you so you can learn from it because if you don't if you can't accept that you've lost
00:25:40.840 then you can't learn from it so i guess what i'm saying is is this is another lesson and uh we gotta
00:25:49.340 we gotta keep going and it's it's on to the next chapter not sure what that is or how it looks like
00:25:54.140 but if we have to um there's a lot if we have to disband and and continue as individuals for
00:26:02.660 a little while so be it while we fight these laws that's what it is what it is i think uh
00:26:07.760 when i talked to tom what was that maybe a month or so ago now um i think he's got the right mindset
00:26:15.060 there which is like yeah now you do have to operate as individuals and it's time to get
00:26:19.900 creative because you can do a lot as individuals just operating independently if you all are
00:26:25.980 adhering to the same goal still like you know you can physically disband an organization but
00:26:31.200 the hive mind remains everybody's still thinking the same thing so if everybody's still working
00:26:35.500 towards the same ends even if they're not coordinating it you can still get a lot done
00:26:39.200 um if nothing else we we've seen how many people are out there how many people are on the 10 page
00:26:45.780 us how many people want to fight this fight with us and um even independently if they have to not
00:26:52.380 just even not just people that joined us and became part of the movement but the people that
00:26:56.640 supported us our support was growing exponentially you know you saw that sorry good i really exposed
00:27:05.580 the the fake democracy here in australia no one under 60 actually thinks that we live in a liberal
00:27:11.280 democracy anymore no one trusts politicians no one trusts parties like that that shit will die
00:27:17.420 with the boomers you know my mom's a boomer and she's supportive but but you know i'm just
00:27:22.560 generalizing here but um you know that they've really exposed themselves to this nobody agrees
00:27:28.460 with these laws except for one class of people but i've got to be very careful what i say today
00:27:33.240 because they're banning emotions in australia now so yeah of course like this is uh the nature like
00:27:39.600 you can only go up to the line and maybe put a toe over it and that's about it so wherever that
00:27:44.620 line is yeah you i i would i would be careful too i am careful sorry go ahead all right we have our
00:27:53.780 own bullshit that we have to adhere to as well right even right they're trying to ban like one
00:28:00.180 of the reasons that you know you can't like it's inadvisable to use you know the hack and croiser
00:28:05.980 or lightning bolts or uh like cigaroons or um like like any of those things in canada's because one
00:28:12.100 they can already charge you with it if they want to there's a way that they can and two uh they're
00:28:17.180 already trying to pass more legislation to ban those anyways actually i think it um it's almost
00:28:22.160 about to pass a new bill in canada that would ban those symbols from being displayed in public
00:28:26.040 demonstrations when they're being portrayed positively basically so um yeah like he this is
00:28:33.400 this is the system we operate in it's like fighting behind enemy lines in a fake and gay
00:28:37.960 you know information war yeah and we were joking that as soon as they brought out these uh new
00:28:44.020 hate laws that suddenly our hate just melted away we we don't hate anymore we we um it was
00:28:51.480 just so effective you know i wish they'd done it sooner and i could have felt this uh this uh
00:28:56.640 this lovely uh feeling that i have now no hate in my heart at all for any anybody or anything
00:29:03.200 don't hate the people who hate me it's just a wonderful feeling you know i just want to make
00:29:07.360 it clear for the people at asio and our friends at siu watching that i don't hate anything anymore
00:29:13.040 because that would that's illegal uh or you can hate certain things you know uh you can hate
00:29:17.940 nazis you know i hate pedophiles you can pretty much hate australia uh or australians um but yeah
00:29:24.700 um and and if the next uh anger or frustration bill or whatever emotion their bill they're going
00:29:31.160 to pass next um i yeah i'll follow the laws at all times i won't be angry about anything anymore
00:29:36.160 so yeah i plan to stay out of jail as much as possible don't if you keep being sad about what
00:29:43.660 they did we're gonna ban sadness okay don't be you better be happy for what they did to you or
00:29:49.220 yeah yeah yeah the bad emotions will be illegal it's not even a joke like god damn i think like
00:29:59.100 that movie and um george orwell 1984 um yeah i would have read the book but they made it into a
00:30:06.080 movie so yeah i watched the movie they're like that movie's going to be hate speech soon surely
00:30:11.780 because like it's like perfect they like ban emotions like what well yeah exactly so like
00:30:20.340 that's what it is and i think it's so i just mentioned this new legislation that they're
00:30:23.880 passing one of the things that they have in this legislation is a more uh definitive
00:30:30.540 explanation of what hate is in a legal context it's like
00:30:35.840 emotion that is greater than disdain or dislike or something and it's like what the fuck does
00:30:44.640 that mean like in the context of like i don't understand how that can even hold up in a in a
00:30:50.020 court like how that like you can have that argument like we're gonna addict we're gonna
00:30:54.640 decide what this person was feeling when they did something or or you know committed a crime
00:31:00.480 we're gonna probably wouldn't hold up it probably wouldn't hold up in the higher courts but
00:31:05.240 the punishment is so severe now that the the lower courts are just activists and and and they'll just
00:31:11.540 find you guilty you know tim tim found out recently it was a minor case but they him and
00:31:18.320 Jimbo were in the same case for the Shrine thing
00:31:20.120 and they won by any
00:31:22.400 it'd be like watching a boxing match
00:31:24.180 and then your guy
00:31:26.480 completely outpints
00:31:28.200 the other fighter but it goes the distance
00:31:29.640 the other guy just lasts the distance
00:31:31.920 and he gets the decision because he's
00:31:33.440 you know the judges are corrupt or whatever
00:31:36.060 and that's what we got here with magistrates and stuff like that
00:31:38.200 so they're going to find you guilty
00:31:39.600 Jimbo and I recently went to court for the
00:31:42.160 the charge of
00:31:43.840 returning to the Shrine after directive
00:31:46.180 uh was the exact charge something like that um and basically the cops got on the stand
00:31:54.640 they contradicted each other they they out and out lied um they said that they had a briefing
00:32:02.360 saying that we were planning to go there and disrupt they didn't produce any intelligence
00:32:05.520 saying that you know which was completely untrue that's not why we were there you know i i actually
00:32:10.980 organized it and and put out the orders for it and we attend the shrine multiple times a year
00:32:16.700 and they kept referring to this they kept falsely saying we're all wearing black falsely saying
00:32:24.700 we're wearing innocent insignia and all this sort of stuff um and even after we put uh we submitted
00:32:31.820 evidence in form of video photographs other times we'd been there and the the news had reported us
00:32:37.220 on us being there and saying that we left without disturbance no offenses occurred and all this
00:32:41.720 at the end the prosecutor when he gave his final submission just got up still said we were wearing
00:32:47.180 all black still said we were wearing insignia still said that we didn't follow directions
00:32:52.100 you know and then the i got up gave my final submission and pointed out that he ignored the
00:32:58.060 entire process and then the judge gave stood up you know ignored the entire process and everything
00:33:03.920 that was set in the stand and yeah we got convicted and i got a 250 fine which is minor but you know
00:33:11.180 the main thing is they got the conviction because now i have more cases for offensive behavior and
00:33:15.860 because these are in the same sort of category each punishment as i go on will get slightly
00:33:20.460 worse and worse you know which is their goal which is why you see you know my yeah i'm not
00:33:25.080 allowed to talk to him but my former number one guy nathan bull with dozens of charges and jacob
00:33:30.100 persan and you know thomas and everyone else and you see joel's just racking up the offensive
00:33:35.180 behavior charges you know so that um the next time we do go out in public if we ever are allowed to
00:33:41.140 again it'll just be offensive and we're going to get a severe punishment every single time yeah and
00:33:46.600 the conviction that they've just got is in the next case they don't go through that case again
00:33:52.100 it's just black and white you were convicted in the past of this so it's a previous conviction
00:33:56.300 that's what it is you know they do this in a few ways right so they do this with the media so yeah
00:34:02.540 building up even just charges right so even if they don't get a conviction or anything one thing
00:34:07.660 you'll see the media do a lot and i've seen them do it to you guys like a like name one like any
00:34:13.100 of you guys who have faced charges and you know it's you know publicly the media will do this
00:34:17.660 when you read their articles they'll reference the previous cases in some cases there was no
00:34:23.340 conviction or you know they was thrown out or whatever but they'll say like you know uh who
00:34:29.260 was charged with offensive behavior or who was charged with loitering charged with whatever it
00:34:34.380 was that had happened but there was no conviction they don't mention that you weren't convicted or
00:34:38.460 found guilty or anything like that they just say charged and this is you know the framing that's
00:34:43.340 more subtle and people don't it doesn't it like when you see it all the time maybe like you you
00:34:48.460 just it's obvious to you is whenever you know the name of a journalist is going to end in you know
00:34:55.460 Weinstein or Witz right so it's one of those things where that's how they they build these
00:35:01.240 cases and this is this is what they do to us as well within the media so recently we just had this
00:35:05.680 you know report come out about our group and active clubs operating in Canada and all of
00:35:10.860 the sourcing material that was used by the government is coming from the media which is
00:35:16.000 basing those on hate experts and the hate experts are so like one i'll give you an example we use
00:35:24.380 the remigration now slogan right we adopted that one as one of the things that we use for the club
00:35:28.740 so what the hate researchers did and say remigration now is just a politically correct
00:35:35.260 way of saying ethnic cleansing and then that was repeated over and over and now there's literally
00:35:40.860 there's articles out there that say you know second sons advocates for ethnic cleansing canada
00:35:45.880 it's like we've never what are you talking we've never used that language we've never uh but that's
00:35:51.100 that's what it becomes and then in because we've had guys who go through court cases and maybe you
00:35:55.460 guys have experienced this in those court cases the prosecution will be referencing articles that
00:36:03.600 are based on nothing as evidence they'll be bringing that up it's like oh he was cited in
00:36:07.980 in cbc as saying this and this and it's like what that's not that's not an official rec like what
00:36:13.620 are you talking about so i don't know if you guys have experienced that too but like the media is
00:36:17.420 vile with this shit and i don't think a lot of guys who haven't been through it get it
00:36:21.820 like it's way worse than you think right it's like the meme you can't possibly hate the media enough
00:36:26.480 yeah exactly yeah you're basically convicted in the media before any any cases even in some cases
00:36:32.280 the cases don't even make it to the to the court you know or to get thrown out or to get the all
00:36:37.140 all charges dismissed or whatever as is what happened with our adelaide charges when there
00:36:41.500 13 of us, sorry, 15 of us
00:36:43.640 arrested and held in
00:36:45.540 solitary for three days and then
00:36:47.580 you know, that was to great fanfare
00:36:49.580 great media, great media attention
00:36:51.560 and then all of us
00:36:53.540 had our charges completely withdrawn one by one
00:36:55.700 you know, over the next couple of months
00:36:57.280 and there's never a mention of that in the media
00:36:59.660 there's never a mention, you know
00:37:01.320 so if you
00:37:02.240 your name then
00:37:04.560 online or whatever will have all the
00:37:07.160 charges and the arrests
00:37:09.280 and all that attached to your name but not the fact
00:37:11.500 that the charges were dismissed you know or not even dismissed they didn't even make it to judge
00:37:16.400 they were just dropped just all charges dropped you know yeah same thing they didn't even try to
00:37:21.180 fight the case so they're just arrested you held you for three days you know convicted you in the
00:37:25.740 media and then quietly dropped the charges but it's we were brought this up a little bit when
00:37:31.680 we were talking backstage before but like this this seems like what they're doing to joel they're
00:37:35.700 just slapping charges on him and it like i can't imagine that a lot of these are going to stick
00:37:41.040 Even if some of them do, it would be very minor sentencing, right?
00:37:44.740 So, like, why are they –
00:37:46.780 they're not intending on actually convicting him of anything, I don't think.
00:37:50.880 I think they just want to hold him for as long as they can
00:37:52.860 and punish him as much as possible.
00:37:55.920 Yep.
00:37:57.400 Determine the punishment.
00:37:58.980 It's hard to know.
00:37:59.680 We don't really have a good, like, datum
00:38:04.020 because Tom successfully defended his Ballarat,
00:38:07.380 the March in Ballarat offensive behavior charge.
00:38:11.040 and had it thrown out um but then for other charges that you think would get thrown out
00:38:19.520 guaranteed offensive or uh intimidating a police officer and these sorts of things
00:38:23.760 you then you get convicted of them like there's no consistency so you just never know what to expect
00:38:29.220 yeah at the lower courts i think it really depends on what magistrate you get you know
00:38:34.760 with tom's ballarat case he got like an old white guy um that probably was sympathetic
00:38:39.840 you know um uh maybe quietly even on our side maybe a fan in a way um and you know for a lot
00:38:49.940 of other cases you're getting full-blown activist activist judges you know so they're just going to
00:38:55.660 convict you it's it's funny too because he was he was fair and then it makes like it leans towards
00:39:03.660 like i wonder if he's like he just said i wonder if he's on our side or like sympathetic or
00:39:07.420 whatever like isn't that fun like all it takes is for somebody to be neutral and it's like ah
00:39:13.100 thank you like just if they're just objective about what what is happening and just like
00:39:17.760 actually adheres to the law actually states facts correct like i uh you know somebody wrote an
00:39:23.700 article about something we did and you know i'm not a huge publication but a fairly you know uh
00:39:30.600 well-known one in canada and they just said what happened they just actually stayed like this is
00:39:35.520 what happened and that was so i was just like oh man thank you so much like just being a neutral
00:39:42.560 referee like when the when the game is rigged against you constantly when you get a neutral
00:39:48.120 referee it feels like all of a sudden you have a huge advantage yeah when it's just it's all
00:39:54.560 it's just fair so yeah just it kind of like when i experienced that it kind of made me realize that
00:40:00.480 this is how much it is skewed against us because just fairness seems like it's a bias towards you
00:40:08.100 almost yeah so it's yeah um going back to the media the media shits me to tears um
00:40:19.280 i don't think of any other way to say it just and what what what pisses me off the most is when
00:40:26.020 i see people in cafes or whatever reading the newspaper and and subscribing to it it's it's
00:40:33.660 just so completely state owned and run and just system pet you know um the way like the way and
00:40:45.940 then we're all these freedom of speech people with with joel davis or brandon koshel like it's just
00:40:52.320 crazy the way they report on things as if you know like and it's always it's always scripted
00:41:01.020 they've got a script and they stick to it and and then there's 15 articles on all these different
00:41:05.180 news outlets that are just identical down to the photos and everything it's just crazy i just can't
00:41:10.920 like anyone that trusts the media these days i get really angry at them and yeah it's just you know
00:41:16.880 if you're if you're at this point in your life and you're that stupid like what hope is there for you
00:41:21.820 i was just about to say i understood it years ago you know years like years ago back when i was
00:41:26.380 started going through this this stuff you know your awakening whatever whatever you want to
00:41:31.260 want to call it i kind of understood how a lot of people still read the newspapers and
00:41:35.820 watched the news and believed in it and stuff like that but at this point i i don't understand
00:41:41.260 it anymore i honestly don't understand how how you can still be buying like how you can be lied to
00:41:47.660 so consistently and and just not questioning you know the npc meme is real i'm telling you it's
00:41:55.100 they have no souls i don't think i don't think they do i think they are non-player characters
00:41:59.580 you know i think the truth is i i kind of think that this is just how the overwhelming majority
00:42:06.860 of the population are and it's frustrating for people like us but it is what it is it's almost
00:42:15.260 like it's almost like they care too much about i think we care too much about what you know those
00:42:21.580 people are doing and thinking when the reality is they're not going to do and think anyways
00:42:26.060 regardless like they're not going to fight you they're not going to help you they're not going
00:42:29.980 to oppose you they're not going like they're just not going to do anything in the same way that they
00:42:34.080 aren't doing anything to the system now they won't do anything whenever you're doing something against
00:42:38.400 the system right they may be scandalized by something you do or say but that's because
00:42:43.480 they've been told to think that and if somebody was telling them to love what you are doing and
00:42:48.380 saying then they would do that like that's just how they are and it doesn't make them bad people
00:42:53.460 or anything it's just like that they're just that's what they are it's like i i try not to get
00:42:58.900 it's frustrating sometimes i try not to get mad at people for their nature like when somebody like
00:43:05.500 there's no point it's like the frog and the scorpion right like why like you you shouldn't
00:43:11.300 be angry or upset when somebody does what their nature is like if you start if you date a woman
00:43:16.900 who is a serial cheater and then she cheats on you what did you expect like that's that's her
00:43:22.180 nature that's on you not on her honestly like you're you're the one who agreed to be put yourself
00:43:27.980 in that situation so yeah i i don't like hey the point is that i think it's 10 of the population
00:43:35.700 versus 10 percent of the population basically and that's what it always usually is um who holds the
00:43:43.140 reins to that other uh the mindset of the other 80 you know who's who's controlling the narrative
00:43:48.760 and at the moment it's uh well i think at the moment it's our side has has more input than it
00:43:56.740 has had in many decades you know we're um we're getting a message out there we have been the other
00:44:03.060 side just has a lot of institutional power where they can continue to silence us continue to take
00:44:09.020 away our voices continue to like ban us like you know a lot of people out there think elon musk was
00:44:13.920 uh was going to be um you know a free speech advocate but it wasn't too long before we were
00:44:18.540 all every one of us in in one day was just one foul swoop just gone off the platform you know
00:44:24.140 none of us got any emails telling us what we'd said wrong what we'd done wrong none of us got
00:44:28.980 any explanations none of us got any replies to any of our um appeals and that was it it was just
00:44:36.820 blanket ban and it was like strategic too it was like you know tom myself nathan tim joel like it
00:44:44.540 was yeah blair it was exactly you know it was the guys that were getting that message out there so
00:44:49.640 so elon isn't our friend you know let's let's not be mistaken i don't even know like i don't think
00:44:55.440 that he's obviously the one who's directly like get rid of these guys get but he clearly doesn't
00:45:00.460 care enough to like you know be like no we're not gonna that that was obviously uh an australian
00:45:05.760 government or intelligence anyways yeah send an american out here to become the e-safety
00:45:12.900 commissioner and she was responsible for having us all banned like they bragged about her being like
00:45:18.840 the reason the person that got us all banned so it's like but there was enough people brought
00:45:23.760 it to would have brought it to his attention there was enough night noise made about it that
00:45:27.600 um he definitely knew what had happened you know and he wasn't going to put his neck out there he
00:45:33.080 wasn't going to put he wasn't going to put twitter on the on the chopping block like like he kind of
00:45:38.340 um like he led people to believe when he took it over you know well this the other thing too with
00:45:44.280 the so beyond the mainstream media or the legacy media what i've become much more cynical towards
00:45:52.080 alternative media or content creators in the past couple of months and one of the reasons why is
00:45:56.700 specifically what's happened to joel so yeah during covid when you guys had large protests
00:46:03.460 and the insane you know draconian shit that the uh especially it was melbourne in particular was
00:46:09.800 bad or just victoria in general was particularly bad right yep yeah and so i guess it was victoria
00:46:16.800 state police that would have been doing that or maybe the army they brought in the army yeah
00:46:22.580 and so when that was happening and i was like the whole world was watching australia because
00:46:29.500 like canada was bad obviously other nations were bad but australia was obviously particularly
00:46:34.440 aggressive with the enforcement of those insane mandates and everybody was paying attention to
00:46:39.700 it everybody wanted to talk about the the insane overreach of the australian government the tim
00:46:45.080 pools and the stephen crowder's and the matt walsh's and the bench like all of these you know
00:46:50.720 what it doesn't matter if they're kosher right or right wing or whatever right and they're talking
00:46:55.320 about you know or they'll talk about the uk even as another good example about the absurd you know
00:47:00.300 infringements on freedom of speech or just um you know memes and whatever you know insane laws
00:47:06.700 happen and then you see that they're all fucking cowards in the end because they'll talk about that
00:47:11.460 when it's easy but the moment the person who's being prosecuted you know for these insane um
00:47:18.000 just minute things is a nazi all of a sudden they don't really care about free speech do they
00:47:25.200 i think like it really makes me lose respect for a lot of people who i i used to be one of those
00:47:33.080 where it's like you know what like i'm not going to go too hard at you know people who are
00:47:36.840 like you know the mainstream alternative you know right-wing influencer types because you know
00:47:43.820 they're kind of a pipeline and they talk about some good things and then i realized like now
00:47:47.380 they're not actually helping us they're in the way so i like they're in the way yeah they're
00:47:52.200 like a roadblock they're like a lot of people get trapped there for for many years before they
00:47:58.280 finally get the rest of the way to the the truth that they're seeking you know ben shapiro was was
00:48:03.560 was that guy for a lot of the older generation guys.
00:48:06.540 We all got stuck there for a while.
00:48:08.140 Like even Jordan Peterson, you know, your fellow Canadian,
00:48:12.340 he was great when he, you know, when he came out first for that time,
00:48:18.560 I think he was fully designed to capture that audience of men
00:48:24.260 fleeting to the right wing, you know,
00:48:26.580 and he sort of like a dragnet just captures them along the way.
00:48:30.260 even if it only even if it only works to sort of slow down that that that move right and i think
00:48:37.580 that's what a lot of these these guys are designed to do to slow down that move to the right you know
00:48:42.140 there's a term that i've been using recently because i've i was struggling to describe um
00:48:49.920 you know the effect that these people have and it's different it's not controlled opposition
00:48:54.900 necessary can be maybe but it's not controlled opposition which you know typically when people
00:49:00.680 use that phrase what they mean is somebody is being directly controlled or working on behalf of
00:49:05.440 you know some other interests con contradicting you know what they claim to be you know working
00:49:11.400 for whatever yeah it's not they aren't necessarily subversives like they may not be intending to like
00:49:18.040 sabotage or subvert they're not necessarily feds or um gatekeepers like they may not be any of
00:49:26.080 these things intentionally but they have that effect and so somebody like jordan peterson
00:49:32.000 would be a perfect example of what i have started calling the anti-celebrity which is like in like
00:49:36.860 they have the same in the same way that you know celebrities are there and they suck up people's
00:49:42.360 attention and people um you know treat them as like a like a quasi-religious figure and they
00:49:49.900 listen to everything they say and they follow everything they do um the the flaw that these
00:49:55.400 people have is that their primary motivation is ultimately self-interest and they will always
00:50:01.620 um they will they will always fall short of what they say they're trying to achieve
00:50:09.580 when it contradicts their self-interest so jordan peterson's a good example of that
00:50:13.960 fuentes is a good example of that like there's a bunch of them so you know who they is if you're
00:50:19.920 a nationalist a right winger a freedom of speech advocate and you haven't supported joel davis or
00:50:26.960 brendan koshel fuck you yep fuck you yeah you're a fucking piece of shit you know who you are
00:50:32.760 yeah you can't piece off a nationalist you know like respect to people like you know and these
00:50:37.680 but these aren't even people that are necessarily on our side or even white
00:50:41.420 nationalists or something, but people like Jake Shields and Dan Blazerian,
00:50:45.100 you know, these guys care about freedom of speech and human rights.
00:50:49.140 You know, these people have supported Joel openly, you know,
00:50:52.440 and they're not, they're not Nazis.
00:50:53.960 They're not white nationalists even.
00:50:56.760 And they have the fucking balls to do it.
00:50:58.780 They have a lot to lose.
00:50:59.820 They're millionaires or whatever.
00:51:01.660 And, and then there's, there's people that as far as I'm aware,
00:51:05.560 and I apologize, they haven't,
00:51:06.620 there's people like fucking keith woods or fuentes who's only ever counter-signaled joel
00:51:11.420 you know who haven't tried to share his fundraiser or help him with the law fair or even raise
00:51:18.140 awareness so fuck you guys the opposite um yeah i got no problem saying it because i a lot keith
00:51:26.000 got a lot of shit for a long time and i was like yeah like he's doing his thing like that was that's
00:51:29.980 unfucking forgivable like even if you don't agree with joel and you don't you know you don't agree
00:51:36.480 with what got him arrested or whatever like weren't you friends like didn't you stream together
00:51:42.320 like didn't you talk like you know debate ideas back and forth and you're just gonna pretend like
00:51:47.360 you're oblivious to what he's going through and not try to draw attention or awareness to it at
00:51:52.800 all like are you that much of a fucking cock like are you that it may be like i just i like i can't
00:51:59.280 believe it like i yeah yeah so so joel is gone a smidgen further to the right than you are and
00:52:06.060 now and now you've like he's he's into dustin to you keith woods fuentes these guys do they just
00:52:13.580 want to be the most right-wing people on on the planet or something and if somebody even nudges
00:52:18.340 just slightly further right to them they are putrid they're they're to be discarded they're
00:52:24.120 to be thrown away you know yeah so these people i have no respect for them i have no respect for
00:52:28.960 like you don't have to agree with joel but the fucking conditions he's being kept under
00:52:33.620 you know that the the bondi terrorist has his own walkout yard he has his own shower he has a
00:52:40.100 bigger cell he's in the same fucking prison as joel and joel's having worse conditions regardless
00:52:45.020 of what you think joel said or didn't say like that that is fucking outrageous that's outrageous
00:52:51.560 and these people are just going to remain silent about it or maybe ignorant like do they not know
00:52:58.340 as no one told them everyone should fucking be raising awareness for this this is crazy and the
00:53:04.320 media haven't even mentioned it you think any any journalist with any integrity would be like well
00:53:10.320 this is this is not fair why is the bondi terrorist being treated better than fucking
00:53:16.040 joel davis he kicked for when there's things it's funny funny yeah he killed actual fucking jewish
00:53:21.940 people and joel allegedly said to rhetorically rape a a politician's comment section rhetorically
00:53:31.160 with rhetoric yeah it's like destroy her rhetoric you know and that's what it means danny fucking
00:53:37.220 law iq retard out there it doesn't matter if you're not even in the right wing how the fuck
00:53:41.280 how the fuck are you not raising awareness or trying to fight this you know because this could
00:53:45.740 be you this could be right left center whatever i don't you know i i personally hate fucking
00:53:51.940 politics you know but uh unfortunately that's what runs the world so but we're talking about
00:53:58.720 sorry we're talking about people like uh keith woods here who essentially took part in a coup
00:54:04.380 in ireland to overthrow justin barrett so we can't be surprised with the behavior of people like that
00:54:11.240 You know, I, uh, yeah, it didn't, when I heard, and it was a friend of mine who mentioned
00:54:19.300 that he hadn't said anything.
00:54:20.520 And I was like, like, it kind of surprised me a little bit, but then I thought about
00:54:23.940 for a second, I was like, you know, that doesn't surprise me because, um, like even just what
00:54:31.000 happened with him and Fuentes and now they're, they're like that again.
00:54:33.960 And you could just, I think he likes being, look, this is, I said, these anti-celebrity
00:54:39.520 types they their flaw is that they like the attention like i don't like i don't like doing
00:54:47.540 this shit like there's a lot of guys who are doing this like i don't want to do this like i
00:54:52.580 don't want to have like i don't have any i didn't have any social media before i did any of this
00:54:56.340 shit i don't like having my face on a fucking camera for six hours a week or whatever i don't
00:55:01.380 like this i want to stop doing this and you can see that that these anti-celebrity type they love
00:55:08.420 it like that's what they're into like you can see it's that's what they're really after they like
00:55:13.220 that they are influential that they are can make a living doing these things that they get
00:55:19.280 that's it they make a living doing it i think there's this thing that has emerged and it's like
00:55:24.500 a mainstream approved right wing um political parties uh commentators uh you know personalities
00:55:32.840 etc and it's
00:55:34.540 they all
00:55:36.440 they've created now a sphere of
00:55:38.500 influence of their own and
00:55:40.320 they don't go outside that
00:55:42.340 they promote their own, these mainstream
00:55:44.860 improved right wing political parties
00:55:46.660 like perhaps the AFD
00:55:48.640 and parties like that when there is parties
00:55:50.760 that are further
00:55:51.440 further to the right and more extreme than
00:55:54.520 they are that don't get the same press and
00:55:56.360 would never be promoted by the likes of
00:55:58.240 Keith Woods who did a full documentary on the AFD
00:56:00.560 who we all know is
00:56:02.380 run by a lesbian who's what married to an indian woman or something you know so uh
00:56:09.260 they've created a whole sphere there that is uh like to me it's a it's a fake right wing it's a
00:56:14.780 neutered right wing it's not going to do anything it's not going to achieve anything it's yeah to
00:56:21.900 me it's like look you you mentioned earlier that you know all of you guys like you guys can't tom
00:56:28.940 had a instagram account what did it last like under a week or something got to i think tens
00:56:33.900 of thousands of followers or something gone within a week uh it was the most mauled account he's ever
00:56:39.020 had too yeah yeah exactly on the tool account 10 000 followers in a week or whatever and then nuked
00:56:47.580 yeah and twitter and so like you know twitter is a perfect example of this because look at who
00:56:52.780 doesn't have accounts it's mark call it it's you guys it's thomas russo it's you know hammer can't
00:57:01.140 have a twitter account like anybody like i was banned like a week after we did our first public
00:57:08.100 demonstration right yeah my account was that it was pretty big it was at like 70 000 and i was
00:57:14.180 starting to really be able to like weaponize it like you can use when you're like that you can
00:57:19.480 use it in pretty productive ways if you try to do that and so as soon as as soon as the public
00:57:24.780 demonstration happened boom nuked and then try to do another account boom nuked like to the point
00:57:29.560 where i can't promote the account because it'll get new so i like i'll just say organic did you
00:57:35.380 say 70 000 yeah wow well that's organic like we got politicians here that buy their twitter and
00:57:41.800 instagram followers and like they're they can't use their accounts to do anything you know there's
00:57:46.360 no there's no teeth in those accounts there's probably like 10 to 15 federal politicians out
00:57:52.560 of 340 something that would have had a bigger account than that most of them have under you
00:57:57.340 know 5 000 or 10 000 a lot of them have less than a thousand i think there's been cases of
00:58:04.480 politicians here's accounts suddenly get gaining 10 000 followers or something all of a sudden
00:58:09.120 like you know so it's like they're clearly buying paying for their followers and even then they have
00:58:15.860 no reach people don't people in australia don't even know who the politicians are they might know
00:58:19.700 the prime minister and maybe the opposition leader and like that's it yeah and that's like
00:58:25.460 but right there is the that's the variable that is the effect right so like what gets you banned
00:58:31.080 like because a lot of people say a lot worse things than i ever did on twitter every day and
00:58:36.540 they have their accounts are fine in fact they're monetized um the difference is that they're slot
00:58:42.600 posting and there's no substance to it and they're not actually advocating for anything
00:58:46.680 i literally i love this one because what was it called it was like
00:58:50.780 um it was something like some kind of goyim something account and you know he posted a
00:58:58.940 meme after the epstein files you know were blowing up and it was something like um you know it's time
00:59:04.540 to stop posting edgy memes on twitter it's time to actually get these whatever these pedophiles
00:59:12.060 out of government for real and it's just like you just posted an edgy meme about posting edgy
00:59:17.800 meme like what are you like what are you advocating for like what are you saying that
00:59:20.900 people should do so like nothing is the point and so that's you'll see that like when somebody is
00:59:25.780 not advocating for or part of is bigger right because some some influencers obviously do help
00:59:32.280 out and they say join this group or like these guys are great um but if they're not speaking
00:59:37.740 on behalf of it they can go you can say whatever you want yeah exactly it's the person that's
00:59:43.420 banned now so all these bad like tom losing his instagram uh regardless of the content that he
00:59:48.000 puts out there it just goes to show that now the new thing now is to ban the person the person is
00:59:52.920 banned your band i'm banned he's banned we we're just going to get banned tomorrow where we sell
00:59:57.420 uh on those mainstream platforms you can you can be as lukewarm as you want with your content but
01:00:03.800 even our lukewarm content is still getting
01:00:06.060 a message out, you know, it's still
01:00:07.540 driving at a certain point
01:00:09.620 and they're the type of point that the
01:00:12.020 mainstream don't want us driving at, so they're going to
01:00:14.000 ban us, the person is banned now, yeah
01:00:15.800 not the account, they don't care what account you have
01:00:17.900 I know Thomas has said a lot of
01:00:20.040 times on streams, imagine
01:00:21.660 where we'd be if they didn't choke us
01:00:24.020 you know, on social media
01:00:25.680 like, what
01:00:27.540 Tom and Jacob built was incredible
01:00:30.020 going
01:00:32.000 from 80 guys in Adelaide
01:00:34.180 to 160
01:00:36.000 six months later
01:00:36.980 to August 31st
01:00:40.460 10,000 man march
01:00:41.660 probably up to
01:00:44.560 50,000 in Melbourne
01:00:45.540 that was
01:00:48.560 amazing and that is just with all the
01:00:50.400 restrictions on us
01:00:51.280 and we took it to its ultimate
01:00:54.620 conclusion, they had to
01:00:56.600 make some crazy laws to ban us
01:00:58.360 it was a rush
01:01:00.600 at the end because the way it had happened
01:01:02.460 it had taken a good few years for us
01:01:04.520 to build up to that point where we just started
01:01:06.400 to snowball
01:01:07.920 we started to really just
01:01:10.040 exponential growth, exponential
01:01:12.440 support, everything was just
01:01:13.860 blown. 160 odd man
01:01:16.500 marched, black box marched through this
01:01:18.560 heart of Melbourne
01:01:19.660 they had 6 months to be like
01:01:22.640 we've got to ban these guys
01:01:24.820 any way possible before
01:01:26.680 Australia Day. They rushed it
01:01:29.160 you know and then
01:01:30.340 And it was just crazy how quick it happened.
01:01:34.620 And August 31st, it was just, I can't believe I was a part of it.
01:01:39.600 You know, I can't believe I had a key role in it.
01:01:41.920 And it's just the most humbling thing I've ever done.
01:01:44.440 And I don't think I'll ever be able to pay back Thomas and Jacob, you know,
01:01:48.740 for what they've done for my family and for our people.
01:01:53.440 I don't think in my lifetime I'll ever be able to repay that.
01:01:56.060 it was one of the saddest days of my life because i got sent to brisbane we myself jimbo and jacob
01:02:02.160 went to brisbane that day and on the day then when the footage at melbourne started coming out
01:02:06.720 because it's on about march for sure yeah oh yeah august 31st march for australia we had been to
01:02:12.160 brisbane previously and then a rally up there and it was hectic and the police up there were hectic
01:02:16.580 tim got punched in the face like by one of the cops and then like stole the cop's soul because
01:02:21.780 he just turned around and said, what are you doing?
01:02:24.120 I recall, yeah, that was particularly vicious,
01:02:27.460 the fleecing on you guys up there.
01:02:28.840 Yeah, so I remember Mikko's head being slammed on the bonnet.
01:02:32.060 So we went up there, myself, Jimbo, and Jacob went up to Brisbane
01:02:36.440 expecting, and myself and Jimbo fully expected
01:02:39.000 this was going to kick off up there.
01:02:40.280 It was going to be hectic.
01:02:42.140 And it was actually timidized.
01:02:43.940 There was no drama, nothing, just march went off without a hitch.
01:02:49.520 And we're looking at the footage coming out from Melbourne
01:02:51.600 and the boys are
01:02:52.300 punching on
01:02:53.540 defending
01:02:53.900 yeah defending themselves
01:02:55.160 on the bridge
01:02:56.140 basically kicking their way
01:02:58.820 into the rally
01:02:59.360 and I remember that day
01:03:01.280 how jealous I was
01:03:02.820 that I wasn't there
01:03:03.600 but in hindsight
01:03:05.080 to defend myself
01:03:06.080 in hindsight now
01:03:07.180 I'm sitting here beside Tim
01:03:08.320 I couldn't be here
01:03:08.980 we couldn't be doing this
01:03:09.700 together now
01:03:10.300 so you know
01:03:12.140 sometimes it works out
01:03:12.940 the way it's meant to work out
01:03:13.720 because the boys
01:03:15.240 are on an association
01:03:16.060 from each other
01:03:16.720 but not from me
01:03:18.260 and so
01:03:19.060 you know
01:03:20.100 it worked out okay
01:03:20.960 it's uh the universe knows what it's doing the there's a bunch of things there so that
01:03:29.520 regarding the the bridge it's funny because i was actually talking about this recently about
01:03:36.320 tom um in the context of when he did that um that latest spat with the media the the blonde
01:03:44.480 journoid there um obviously that went extremely viral and people loved it and there was there's
01:03:49.680 always the critics right and some of the critics you know they're just like they're not actually
01:03:54.400 genuine but you know you will see occasionally the ones that say something like oh if tom could just
01:04:00.240 you know not swear and not you know do these things then you know he would go so much further
01:04:07.120 and like that kind of nonsense it's like the reason that you remember that i said this to
01:04:12.240 people is like you remember that bridge video where you they beat the out of antifa they just
01:04:17.440 walked through them and like dusted them you love that right well you think that a guy who stands
01:04:23.440 there and speaks properly and doesn't fire back and won't you know speak with passion do you think
01:04:29.040 that he's gonna do that it's like you like you're it's incredibly you're like a these people
01:04:33.840 are like women like they're like little women you're like what do you actually want like you
01:04:38.000 say one thing and then you love another like you say you want it yeah yeah you say you want it
01:04:45.280 gentle but we both know you want your face fucking smashed into the pillow like like
01:04:49.220 come on like what do you talk like you want that's exactly what you want and
01:04:54.140 whenever yeah it's funny how they focus on certain things like yeah instead of the instead of the
01:05:01.480 big picture the big achievement that's what to focus on to focus on this little minutiae that
01:05:04.960 doesn't matter you know yeah so it's like i find that frustrating and so but it's true as well so
01:05:12.300 on you know the the 31st of august you didn't see many people complaining about that video did you
01:05:18.680 there was i saw everyone from like libertarians to like conservatives chris like every all
01:05:24.200 different kinds being like yeah okay this is awesome because like that's what you have like
01:05:28.520 um yeah uh rebel news uh type people like avi ameni and and stuff saying oh see you see what
01:05:36.420 happens when the nazis go to the rally they're violent and all this sort of stuff um but then
01:05:42.560 he's been attacked with a chopping board or something because he beat his wife with a chopping
01:05:46.140 board and he got charged and so now the left bring a chopping board and they i think one of them hit
01:05:51.040 him with a chopping chopping board once you know hey yeah i don't hate it but because i don't hate
01:05:56.580 anything anymore but but but um yeah there were there were like um your zio your your zio what
01:06:04.120 you call them judeo christians that were attacking us that day saying i'll see what happens when the
01:06:09.240 innocent come down you don't get attacked by the left uh you get defended by nazi or some some i
01:06:14.040 don't know what their logic was actually like i don't so the like if they're the zio christian
01:06:20.100 types i guess it depends like obviously christian is a weird term especially now because it can mean
01:06:25.140 everything from a like a church that you know wants you to cut your dick off and uh you know
01:06:32.880 get fucked in the ass by brown people on the weekend or some shit like it it goes from
01:06:37.660 everything from that to like actual hardcore traditional people so like i don't i don't
01:06:41.420 really know when people say christianize like what do you mean like would describe what you
01:06:45.300 mean because it means anything but most of those types of christians i think it's funny because
01:06:50.480 do they not realize that antifa are the ones that show up when you're doing your pro-life marches
01:06:56.840 and throw piss at you or um you know cans or you know attack people as they're going to your cars
01:07:03.860 like do you not realize that when you guys try to do your um your your uh pro-christian any like
01:07:12.800 anything to do with christianity in terms of politics that they're the ones who are you know
01:07:17.680 trying to get you uh arrested or labeled race like all the things that they do to us it's like
01:07:22.800 what like why why is this an issue that it's i don't understand it's like what is wrong with
01:07:28.920 beating your enemies when your enemy attacks you like you guys didn't instigate it the christians
01:07:34.360 are upset that we bash the satanists basically yep it's yeah i defended defended ourselves against
01:07:42.040 the satanists well you were you were trying to exercise your right to peacefully attend a
01:07:49.420 political demonstration and they tried to obstruct you from doing that physically like
01:07:53.620 yeah i'm not worried i'm only jesting like it's clear in the footage that we were beelining down
01:08:00.340 the right side of the bridge or whatever and that they ran straight over with motorcycle gloves and
01:08:05.700 you know hit nothing with thin air so i don't understand how somebody can look at that and be
01:08:11.340 like oh see this is the problem with the nsn it's like this is why the nsn is awesome what are you
01:08:15.160 like talking about um especially for the elderly people that stood off to take a cigarette or
01:08:21.040 whatever and were set upon by them you know yeah unable to protect those people the uh other thing
01:08:28.840 i wanted the police should have been doing yeah exactly the other thing i wanted to jump back to
01:08:34.360 though is when you talked about the disbandment as a loss tim and i think it's interesting because
01:08:41.240 like it was probably one of the most likely outcomes right
01:08:46.860 like something like that like there's there's stages right so if it starts with
01:08:53.540 they start by smearing you in the media even just as a group or then they'll try to dox
01:08:59.320 individuals and get them fired and do all these things and they try to you know use the social
01:09:05.280 pressures and stuff like that and they they'll go after your banking go after your ability to
01:09:10.700 operate your ability to get venues all of those things it's all like soft terrorism like like
01:09:15.660 gay terrorism like they're trying to defeat you quietly well with this banner they're still going
01:09:20.480 after our bank accounts yeah yeah and so the one when that stops working like the the next thing
01:09:28.380 that they obviously are going to do is use state power to try to ban you and then after that it's
01:09:33.860 imprison you with that legislation or just fucking kill you if none of that works so
01:09:37.980 like you guys were at the last one of the last steps towards you know either we win or they have
01:09:45.380 to come they have to go to war with us basically and just show that they're like they're willing to
01:09:50.380 just murder kill and arrest and imprison because of ideas well we're gonna continue to obey the
01:09:58.960 law at all times but i think what set them over the edge was they they could not under any
01:10:04.100 circumstances let us have a political party they couldn't they could not let that happen because
01:10:10.240 um no matter what the media says how australians hate us or whatever
01:10:15.560 thomas saw can give a speech in front of 50 000 melbourneians and not get booed he can walk
01:10:23.060 around every single one of them will shake his hand what would have happened if our state premier
01:10:27.320 showed up that day or if any any any liberal or labor politician which is our two major parties
01:10:33.880 any politician showed up that day to that march or any march that would be booed and set upon
01:10:39.500 with rhetoric you know what i mean so i think they know they know they know
01:10:45.840 what australia really thinks of us i think uh and it's not it's 90 of australians do not hate us
01:10:53.700 like they think they do for sure i like i've had this experience i get recognized more and more now
01:11:01.620 and it's almost always positive but even whenever it starts you know kind of like standoffish or
01:11:08.240 you know they're like they're all people are always curious right it's interesting like when
01:11:12.900 they they see somebody then they see them on the news and they're like holy shit like even if they
01:11:16.520 don't like it they'll talk to you and everybody i talked to about for a long enough time like if
01:11:20.840 they're genuinely interested in talking about it they always are like actually like you kind of
01:11:25.460 agree with basically everything you're saying yeah oh yeah once you have a conversation with
01:11:30.400 somebody like they start to realize that you're not this caricature that's that's been painted of
01:11:34.220 you you're just a real person with real thoughts real ideas you know and and you can justify your
01:11:39.980 plan your your thoughts your ideas and your plans you know um and people will often walk away going
01:11:45.540 that was a nice guy you know i could be that guy's friend i wasn't ready i wasn't ready for
01:11:54.100 um march the march for australia on august 31st and the reception from the public
01:12:00.120 um especially once we defended ourselves across the bridge and um and we we entered the march
01:12:06.920 um and people were just high-fiving us and patting us on the back and rubbing our heads or
01:12:11.540 whatever i didn't i didn't expect that and i didn't and just standing next to tom and watching
01:12:16.980 his back all day it was relentless just people were coming up and shaking his hand and taking
01:12:21.760 selfies and just normal people too you know like um and just the support that people were
01:12:29.520 were throwing his way i really wasn't wasn't expecting i didn't expect that number of people
01:12:34.900 to be there like you're always worried that what if no one comes you know like a birthday party
01:12:40.540 you know like what if no one comes i've not come and then and then you just we got there and it was
01:12:46.160 slowly grew slowly grew until we just the cops didn't didn't even want us to march they wanted
01:12:51.540 us to march out of the city and um i wasn't having it it's like no we have our plan we'll march where
01:12:57.840 we want to march and um we just got so big that the cops just couldn't couldn't contain it i think
01:13:04.540 you know it would probably play the part in some people getting attacked by antifa because it was
01:13:08.600 just too many people but yeah i wasn't ready for the public's reaction to us um and that goes back
01:13:17.040 to what you were saying earlier
01:13:17.920 about their soft,
01:13:19.400 how they attempt
01:13:20.200 all these different ways
01:13:21.240 of soft control over you,
01:13:22.700 like to take your bank accounts
01:13:23.760 and to do all these different things.
01:13:25.900 And I think they try that
01:13:26.800 because they want to do it
01:13:28.900 without exposing themselves,
01:13:30.220 without exposing this power
01:13:31.500 that we exist to expose,
01:13:34.200 in fact, you know?
01:13:35.360 And in that way,
01:13:37.760 what we were doing
01:13:38.540 has run its course
01:13:39.320 because we took it to the point
01:13:41.180 where none of that worked.
01:13:43.220 We were still this big.
01:13:44.680 Tom was still, you know,
01:13:45.660 growing in popularity
01:13:48.080 getting his handshaked everywhere he went
01:13:49.560 and we forced the beast
01:13:52.080 to expose itself, to raise its head
01:13:54.120 above the parapet and to come
01:13:56.000 and ignore its own
01:13:58.380 democracy and its own
01:14:00.200 system
01:14:02.420 to take us down
01:14:03.600 so I think
01:14:05.660 we were successful in that regard
01:14:07.620 and there's a reason why
01:14:09.400 every video that has Thomas
01:14:12.080 in it, mainstream news video
01:14:14.080 there's a reason the comments are always switched off every single time um well this is why so what
01:14:21.940 grant was just speaking about there is why like i i objectively yeah you could call it a loss in
01:14:30.240 the sense that they have succeeded in preventing you guys from being able to operate as an or like
01:14:35.300 you're not an organization anymore you're just individuals and so that is the whole point of
01:14:39.800 you know tribe and train get together you know tribe up stop being atomized individuals and so
01:14:46.840 they've succeeded in preventing your ability to do that which is you know that is what it is but
01:14:51.960 you know losses look even if you don't achieve total victory conditions like you know you may
01:14:59.320 lose like that it's like well you you won a lot of battles along the way and you push them to a
01:15:04.480 point where they had to commit like if they have to commit all of their resources or is like they
01:15:09.540 have to take a step in escalation to the point where you know now they're risking um you know
01:15:15.760 negative blowback themselves by engaging in those tactics like it is kind of a a win in a sense
01:15:22.180 right like nobody believes their illusion anymore the illusion of democracy is gone you know
01:15:26.960 people will still live their life they'll still go to the foot it'll still do all that sort of
01:15:32.720 thing but nobody is under the illusion that we live in a free country anymore or that we have
01:15:37.700 free speech or or any of these things you know so in that regard they had to lose a lot to to beat
01:15:43.360 us you know um we were gaining so much ground they just started carpet bombing yeah exactly
01:15:49.080 kind of getting it's like tim you're you're a fighter like sometimes a loss can be a win
01:15:55.620 right if you're if you go in there and you're supposed to lose to that guy and you take him
01:16:00.720 you know the the entire uh you know however many rounds and it's a close to like rocky right like
01:16:07.680 was rocky lost the fight did he win yeah he fucking won right because that was not supposed
01:16:12.880 to be the outcome so like yeah yeah loss is a a funny thing so i don't know i don't see it
01:16:18.240 necessarily as a loss or if it objectively is a loss it's like yeah but they they took a lot of
01:16:22.700 damage in the process we went down swinging we can't what are you gonna do stop fighting and
01:16:27.100 sit down on the canvas exactly no you just swing for the fences they would have liked to have been
01:16:35.320 able to crush us without exposing themselves i think you know um yeah it's been fun though
01:16:41.940 it was a it was a fun fight i think you know if we're reflecting we do a little reflection
01:16:49.960 i think one of the moments of my time in the org that stood out was um
01:16:56.020 the destroy pedo freaks rally that was uh you know like i'd only really done
01:17:03.780 some small activisms before that some some photo ops and uh a little rally against the training in
01:17:10.580 a park um but destroy pedo freaks like none of us really knew what to expect we knew it was going
01:17:16.980 to be hectic but the destroy pedo freaks is it you know like there was a video like i won't
01:17:22.920 repost it anymore but um there was like a two minute 42 second video that that uh edit that
01:17:29.660 was made and it's i i can honestly say it was the only rally that was exactly the way the hype video
01:17:36.880 was like it was like graham was there that day as well it was exactly the way we'd never done
01:17:42.240 anything that big um and and that was when we really burst onto the scene even globally
01:17:47.800 like obviously there were some things before that but like that really was like
01:17:52.720 you know i think that was like the day we took the black block back because when we arrived there
01:17:58.180 it was like these guys are antifa they're wearing black and you know like and then everyone was
01:18:03.560 like antifa wear black before that even in some of our photos and stuff and then after that day
01:18:08.760 it was like oh the nsn wear black you know so yeah i think yeah that for me that was like
01:18:15.720 i know we had bigger rallies and bigger marches after that and and um 160 man march was an
01:18:21.620 experience but destroy better freaks was the groundbreaking moment that like woke everyone
01:18:26.960 up and and everyone turned their head in our direction that day so i don't know do you have
01:18:31.080 a favorite rally graham that's my favorite rally always will be the stripe head of freaks is the
01:18:35.280 one that i it was my first big rally i i was around for quite a while at that time but i didn't go to
01:18:40.560 the to the bizarre rally that the boys had a little small sort of rag tag rally in the park
01:18:45.960 um i was working that then couldn't get away but and the stripe head of freaks was my first one and
01:18:52.820 and uh i just remember that getting to the stage and playing and you know yourself now because you
01:18:58.580 do these things yourself but that to go from sort of your um your where you're grouping together to
01:19:07.440 get to your point to get to where you're to where you're going that's always the most nerve-wracking
01:19:12.000 it's like a build up to a fight kind of thing build up to a boxing fight or build up to a
01:19:15.940 kickboxing fight or something um and for me that walk that walk from from where we all met
01:19:22.020 to the rally,
01:19:25.420 the nerves were peaking
01:19:26.960 during that moment.
01:19:28.220 But then once you get there,
01:19:29.220 it's just like the first punch
01:19:30.500 that's been thrown in the fight.
01:19:31.620 Once you get there
01:19:32.320 and you get lined up
01:19:33.140 and you get your banner out
01:19:34.040 and then your nerves
01:19:35.120 just sort of melt away
01:19:36.260 and it starts to become
01:19:37.300 real fun then, you know?
01:19:38.960 A lot of the other ones
01:19:39.900 blur together,
01:19:40.520 but I remember every detail.
01:19:42.140 Yeah, that was brilliant.
01:19:43.100 On the way to the rally that day,
01:19:44.320 we had some heavy hitters
01:19:45.740 in our group.
01:19:46.440 It was like me, you, Jimbo
01:19:47.480 were in the car,
01:19:48.760 a couple others,
01:19:49.720 and listening to No Face Nate,
01:19:52.020 rally on the way there like yeah my favorite memory from the rally though is when um we were
01:19:58.700 doing our thing or whatever and then somebody shouted that uh the anti-fatic communists were
01:20:04.820 coming running down from one of the other streets up so we turned around and there was only 20 of us
01:20:09.120 22 maybe something like that wasn't a lot 22 yeah maybe and um we turn around and there's hundreds
01:20:14.380 of purple-haired fucking freaks coming running down flags yeah just charging down the street
01:20:19.800 and i think like they they were charging for this posy parker rally like that's they didn't know we
01:20:24.500 were there and so we turned around and we were straight away like getting into fighting stands
01:20:28.340 everyone just ran up lined up tom was talking to the police trying to convince us convince them
01:20:33.600 to let us join the freedom movement and the and the let women speak rally because there was some
01:20:38.260 freedom guys there and there were some like feminist types there and he was trying to convince
01:20:43.900 him to let us join because at first they thought we're antifa so we opened up our banner and
01:20:47.340 showed that we were friendly and as tom talking to the police officer he's sort of we're facing
01:20:53.600 the police tom's facing us and the police looking back and forth tom sees there's 300 commies just
01:20:59.120 running with flags and he just yells 180 180 and then and then we look and then we turn around he
01:21:05.040 runs up in front of us because he's he's the spearhead he's the head of the movement if there's
01:21:10.220 going to be action he's gonna he's gonna lead from the front as he always does and and there's
01:21:16.180 there's a beautiful side angle of this where like i was in a mask but i step forward take one step
01:21:20.740 forward and i'm like yeah and tom sort of looks behind at me and then jimbo licks his lips and
01:21:25.100 and like he's like he's got rabies and steps forward and then everyone else stepped forward
01:21:29.700 with us and it was just and then they all just hit the brakes and their flags that's the hard
01:21:33.880 that's my memory is of them of them realizing that we're lined up we're not moving and there's
01:21:38.860 hundreds of them but they're just the guys at the front start to hit the brakes like they stop and
01:21:43.840 then the people behind them are bumping into them they're dropping their flags their flags are
01:21:48.300 are falling across the ground and all this it's just it's just chaos the horse is behind us they
01:21:53.380 let it go for 20 seconds and when they realize oh they're not gonna these two groups aren't gonna
01:21:58.460 meet sort of like they did on the uh bridge at mfa that we weren't gonna meet they're like all
01:22:03.280 right and then they casually just on their horses through and then they had no they didn't have
01:22:08.040 enough police and we know because we received transcripts of this when they did like a
01:22:12.260 investigation into the whole day uh and they released all these transcripts we know that they
01:22:16.760 didn't have enough police to keep us separate and we actually knew that they knew who we were
01:22:21.040 when we arrived so they had intelligence to that we were that that we are that they knew exactly
01:22:26.800 who we were and they didn't want to let us combine with the group but because on spring on
01:22:31.700 berk street and spring street there were two different groups of communists and then there was
01:22:36.140 the the third group of of freedom rally people in the on the steps and then us sandwiches between
01:22:43.000 everyone they had to let us through and then there was good footage of us coming coming in and being
01:22:48.040 accepted by the freedom movement shaking our hands and all that sort of stuff and because they always
01:22:52.100 want to paint the narrative that we're individuals no one agrees with us no one likes us we we don't
01:22:56.960 have any friends but almost at every circumstance where we've got to be with another group even in
01:23:03.400 the no rally it's clear that people are happy for us to be there you know the no rally was another
01:23:07.900 one where we were with other other groups and they were happy for us to be there so
01:23:12.120 this narrative that we're just individuals and that nobody wants to be near us and
01:23:16.960 we're loners is is not true so and you know yeah destroy pedophreaks number one yeah i
01:23:25.020 couldn't agree more because that's i knew of tom and i was listening to the joel and blair show
01:23:31.800 before that like i think a few months before i had uh found joel and blair and i i had seen to
01:23:39.340 i didn't know who tom was but i had seen clips of him circulated uh and i like started paying
01:23:45.740 attention to his stuff around the same time then a few months later was the destroyed pedofree so
01:23:50.040 i was like oh shit these guys are legit that was awesome the standing in front of that mob
01:23:55.720 hucking the Romans
01:23:56.960 was just like
01:23:57.720 damn that is awesome
01:23:59.120 it's like one of those
01:24:00.420 when we were leaving
01:24:01.320 when we were leaving as well
01:24:02.660 like we all
01:24:03.220 we were leaving
01:24:03.980 no I won't do it
01:24:05.620 you're just going to have to
01:24:06.340 imagine me
01:24:06.760 it's illegal here now
01:24:07.520 so I can't do it to you
01:24:08.300 the audience is just going to
01:24:09.720 have to imagine me
01:24:10.600 throwing a Roman
01:24:11.120 that's your imagination
01:24:12.080 I can't do anything about it
01:24:13.200 just imagine me throwing a Roman
01:24:14.200 so as we were leaving
01:24:15.380 we all threw
01:24:16.300 through Romans
01:24:17.880 and then
01:24:19.180 me again
01:24:20.040 was my first rally
01:24:20.880 so I
01:24:21.420 what I couldn't believe
01:24:23.400 was the reaction
01:24:24.280 of these lefties
01:24:25.880 like when we were
01:24:26.640 throwing our Romans
01:24:27.360 in their faces
01:24:28.120 it was literally like
01:24:28.900 they were getting
01:24:29.200 stabbed in the heart
01:24:30.240 that's what it was like
01:24:31.960 it was like
01:24:32.320 they were getting
01:24:32.720 they were getting stabbed
01:24:34.200 it's like a spear
01:24:36.080 to the heart
01:24:36.660 of these people
01:24:37.240 like they were vampires
01:24:38.540 and you were holding
01:24:39.660 a crucifix up at them
01:24:40.780 it's a powerful symbol
01:24:41.840 that's where the bandit
01:24:42.580 some of the Euro bros
01:24:43.820 were like
01:24:44.360 oh you know
01:24:45.900 that's a salute
01:24:46.520 why are you saluting
01:24:47.420 your enemies
01:24:48.040 but it was like
01:24:49.060 holding a spear up to them
01:24:50.280 you know
01:24:50.580 it was
01:24:51.220 if you were there
01:24:52.660 it made sense
01:24:53.320 you know like so in that instance it was a weapon like it really was like today it was like a it was
01:24:58.740 like a crucifix to a vampire that is the truth what did tom call it a um a phallic a phallic
01:25:04.840 you gotta have this
01:25:07.440 he's good better with his words than we are
01:25:16.300 i don't know if he's still there but he was uh at one point so uh what's up tom hope you're doing
01:25:23.980 well if you're still there and that yeah so i get the salute thing is just from you i'm not
01:25:28.820 allowed to talk to tom i'm not communicating to him at all um that's you know if you want to say
01:25:34.580 what's up to him that's up to you like i don't know australia you know in terms of law enforcement
01:25:41.300 they're pretty loose but like i feel like me standing a fact about another person does not
01:25:47.940 constitute you communicating with them but who knows apparently rhetorical rape is rape so
01:25:53.900 you know like yeah exactly yeah um who knows uh i'll be i'll be more careful though i did kind of
01:26:04.540 blank on that for a second that you are on no he's just oh it is they're fucked
01:26:10.500 a lot of people a lot of people um especially when i first joined and they would come to my
01:26:16.840 gym and that and then they'd always say like i've had two different people um i think one of them
01:26:23.240 was uh ethan hendron and um he one day i was sitting there quietly in my gym and he came up
01:26:28.940 and he oh no i was doing some some crazy shit and then he comes up and he goes i always thought you
01:26:33.860 was so stoic and staunch but you're just a retard like everyone else so and he is he meant it with
01:26:39.460 love you know so yeah yeah yeah if you get to know me you'll understand but yeah i've been when i had
01:26:47.600 him on my goal was to try and let the world see the tim that i know because he's a goofy bastard
01:26:52.680 honestly but the topics we talk about are always so serious so yeah you don't really get that yeah
01:26:58.160 it's hard to joke around it's so funny because i think i i think i talked to tom about this for us
01:27:03.640 somebody who was talking about this recently is one of the things that was so effective about
01:27:08.300 you know your leaders was that they were particularly you know good at conveying the
01:27:15.700 grug brain take to smart people in a way that you know they'll accept because it's worded in a nice
01:27:22.620 way and then redistilling it down into the grug take and like i've been trying to explain this to
01:27:28.680 people a lot more recently and it's that it's not the fucking average guy with good instincts that
01:27:34.920 has the problem here it's like the 105 to 120 iq people that have the fucking problem because they
01:27:41.520 overthink things like they need something explained to them they can't accept that it's
01:27:47.200 like no there's men and women and cutting your dick off is retarded like this like that like
01:27:52.300 they are the ones that need that explained to them in more like you know sophisticated ways where
01:27:56.300 or even things like what did i say you know the active club model i explain this to like just like
01:28:03.460 an average guy you know work class guy guy like jock got whatever you know bro type it's like yeah
01:28:10.140 we're gonna meet up we're gonna train and we're gonna build a big group of guys and like i totally
01:28:13.620 get it i 100 get what we're doing and i get why we're doing it they immediately understand and
01:28:18.700 then you say this to some you know intellectual type he's like oh we're gonna get a whole bunch
01:28:22.640 of guys together you know and politically you know who are politically aligned through uh you
01:28:27.460 know fitness and combat sports and stuff like that and they're like well what's the point of that and
01:28:31.580 you have to go into this whole explanation like it's not it's not the like i mean i know you're
01:28:37.560 not but you called yourself you're not stoic you're just retarded like it's not those guys
01:28:42.780 that have the problem it's not the average guy like they see immediately what the problem is and
01:28:46.880 they they're able to understand what needs to be done about it like we need yeah i joked about
01:28:52.620 i know what you're talking about you use the uh you use the american football as an example
01:29:00.120 of of a way to organize like in a structured you know like a military structure yeah exactly but
01:29:09.600 it's just like it's not even things like that necessarily it's like it could be anything it
01:29:15.060 could be transgenderism it could be immigration it could be like laws like even covid mandates
01:29:21.800 right like my dad is like he's was a tech he went to a tech school like as in like he did trades in
01:29:28.880 school like he was not academic at all and the day they start the covid stuff he's like yeah
01:29:34.220 this is horseshit like you just immediately knew just instinctively that they had this bunch of
01:29:38.340 nonsense um like they have good instincts and this like i said to tom once on stream
01:29:43.600 you can walk onto any you know random building site and throw a fucking rock at a tradie and
01:29:49.440 make him prime minister you know like secretary of the interior whatever and they do a way better
01:29:55.520 job because they would just make sound decisions without overthinking them or without trying to
01:30:01.460 please so it's uh it's not the the average working class people that have the problem it's it's the
01:30:07.940 intellectual class because they're the ones who can be convinced into thinking retarded things
01:30:14.220 with smart sounding uh you know arguments and rhetoric they're the ones who are susceptible
01:30:18.740 to it more so than the the more average guys so anyways i don't know if i explained that
01:30:26.160 necessarily the greatest but yeah no i get it you're right i think you're right yeah
01:30:29.540 yeah a lot of it as well they all have white collar jobs that
01:30:35.380 basically destroyed if they become associated type thing absolutely the difference the social
01:30:41.780 thing the social acceptance thing is though tradies are a lot closer to being free men and
01:30:47.540 white collars i think it's even it's even things like you you must have experienced this tim so
01:30:52.260 like i did you know mma jiu-jitsu kickboxing wrestling you know boxing um all the time before
01:31:00.820 covid right and you go in those gyms like they were the ones you go into a combat sports gym
01:31:06.320 and they're they're all basically on board with most things already the one thing that they tend
01:31:11.180 to have an issue with is uh you know racial reality racial realism or you know having an
01:31:19.320 in-group preference or anything like that so like that's the the biggest one for them but even
01:31:23.400 you know the anti-white stuff they they notice it and they'll talk about it like yeah this is
01:31:28.300 bullshit um and that's just like the natural default for those guys and so i noticed this
01:31:34.960 during covid that boxing boxing is a very conservative sport very conservative thinkers
01:31:42.140 but it's a very multicultural sport there are a lot of good multicultural boxers um from all
01:31:49.000 parts of the world and and even when you run a boxing gym you're like you're going to have a
01:31:55.580 especially in west in west melbourne you're gonna have like probably majority non-white
01:31:59.700 members as was the case for me as well so my gym was never really um my gym was never a white
01:32:08.520 only gym or anything like that like uh i didn't think it would be because it's not a gym and
01:32:14.320 yeah yeah i'm just reiterating what you're saying that yeah it's a multi it's very multicultural
01:32:18.140 but they are conservative like they don't think that women uh men should be boxing in women's
01:32:23.960 divisions you know like in the olympics they don't agree with that they don't think um
01:32:28.360 uh that there should be mass immigration you know like they you know they um they they do agree with
01:32:36.140 uh all the ant like the anti-white they don't agree with it but they're against all the anti-white
01:32:40.340 agenda and that sort of thing but it's it's it's a very anti-racist sport yeah very anti-racist
01:32:46.320 sport yeah and this is like obviously a risk for people such as yourselves you lose your licensing
01:32:51.620 you'll you know if you can't get licensed people don't want to go to your gym because you can't
01:32:55.920 actually bring them to fights like you can't coach them you can't corner them it's like yeah you can
01:33:00.840 they don't even want you at their gym yeah so it's i mean with like i know guys who've i'm not
01:33:07.220 gonna get i know guys who've gone through similar shit because of minor things too like not even
01:33:11.600 being just attending certain conferences or whatever and they go through a lot of bullshit
01:33:16.960 as a result so yeah it's like that's another you know pressure but i think it's funny because so i
01:33:22.620 got kicked out of my uh gym that i did jiu-jitsu at last summer and uh i had about a half dozen
01:33:29.420 guys come to me like yeah i agree with everything you're saying like hey like they're i think it's
01:33:34.720 funny because half of the guys that are training regularly you know in like on uh you know three
01:33:39.360 or four times a week they also think the same things but they're not saying it publicly so
01:33:44.760 they don't get kicked out right what happened was you saying kicked out of the gym
01:33:49.680 yeah they they booted me which i was kind of honestly i was surprised i lasted as long as i
01:33:54.660 did yeah i was there for like a year and a half so uh yeah i've got a few there's a few gyms and
01:34:03.900 people that are supportive and will let me train with them and stuff and i think that's one of the
01:34:09.240 good things about uh one of the positives about disbanding is i've been able to train with some
01:34:15.100 real boxers again and because i'm so busy doing our sessions in the west and and training people
01:34:20.940 on saturdays and um teaching people a lot like i i there aren't there aren't really a whole lot of
01:34:28.960 boxes in in victoria i think there were like probably three or four really good boxes in
01:34:35.140 new york uh in victoria in the state of victoria and um they didn't come to every saturday or they
01:34:43.400 weren't in the west so it's been good to tap into that that skill level that i need to to start
01:34:50.500 training again because um for so long i was just sparring at other people's level and you know like
01:34:57.280 i yeah was sparring the other day and i was like started to get that i would say panic feeling and
01:35:04.980 that you know slight anxiety of shit this guy's timing me really good and and you know and finally
01:35:11.000 the heart rate raised a little bit i wasn't relaxed and you know just in one gear you know so
01:35:16.560 yeah that was really good to feel that again makes me want to train proper again and but
01:35:22.520 yeah it'd be so hard to get a license to fight it's like there's one thing like sure i'd do
01:35:28.620 some training with the guys whether it's striking or uh you know submission grappling or whatever
01:35:32.840 it's not the same though like most most guys there are some guys obviously that are great
01:35:37.400 but most of the guys who are doing it are like you know entry level type with their combat sports
01:35:41.720 so it's like you're you don't get that same edge it's not like you go into a gym with a bunch of
01:35:48.520 whatever brown belts and pearl belts black belts and you just like it's just hard hard hard fight
01:35:53.460 over and over for an hour or whatever um you can't necessarily get that when you're teaching
01:35:58.980 guys basic stuff so
01:36:00.440 I listen to you but
01:36:02.500 hopefully I'll
01:36:04.260 find another gym
01:36:06.100 we're always doing like lifting
01:36:08.720 heavy bars and plates and
01:36:10.920 being uncivil and
01:36:14.420 kicking people and stuff
01:36:15.420 yeah oh Jesus
01:36:16.800 and like
01:36:18.660 I just want to stand
01:36:20.760 and deliver you know like a gentleman
01:36:22.620 and
01:36:23.800 yeah it's all these
01:36:26.300 I was whinging about kicking
01:36:27.680 He didn't like to kick us
01:36:28.920 It's uncivil
01:36:30.740 I thought we were civilised people
01:36:33.160 And I go to training
01:36:34.960 And Tom's kicking me in my leg
01:36:37.960 The only chance I have a landing
01:36:40.400 Anything on him is to kick his leg
01:36:41.920 And even him
01:36:44.120 Forget about it
01:36:44.900 You're not wrong
01:36:47.560 This is why it was
01:36:48.840 This is the Queensbury rules
01:36:50.860 This is what was considered the gentleman's way of
01:36:54.220 Fighting
01:36:54.800 The sweet science, the square circle
01:36:56.600 What are you doing?
01:36:57.680 why are you grabbing on my leg sniffing my crotch come on i don't disagree but there's something
01:37:03.240 very satisfying about seeing a guy fucking buckle at the knees whenever you you know collapse his
01:37:08.040 thigh muscles so yeah it's just it's just fun too but no i like boxing's great kickboxing's great
01:37:14.680 i just like the kicks because they they open up the hands you know and you you can flick a little
01:37:20.380 kick out there yeah especially somebody who's not very trained you know immediately start thinking
01:37:26.640 about you don't even have to kick hard you just do a little flicky kick and all of a sudden
01:37:30.140 they're thinking about thinking about your legs and big right hand down the middle that's that's
01:37:34.960 why tim doesn't like it well i did find i did find um doing the kickboxing at nationals i did
01:37:40.980 find that people were obsessed like were focused on my hands and focused on my jab
01:37:45.560 you know like particularly guys that were like had been doing kickboxing
01:37:49.540 and you know and and actually was a bit easier to land leg kicks on stuff on him so
01:37:54.680 um and i'm only joking it was fun to mix it up because um that's one of the things
01:38:01.780 um why it was so good to train with boxers again because i had to i had to tap into my knowledge
01:38:08.700 and to my experience training with really good fighters again because even when i'm kickboxing
01:38:14.640 and i'm losing or or i'm sparring guy that's better than me kickboxing it's reactionary
01:38:20.020 because i kind of i don't have as much knowledge and i don't really know what i'm doing so i'm
01:38:23.680 watching and i'm reacting um and i'm not really timing things where i've been doing boxing since
01:38:28.880 i was a kid so um i'm able i'm able to flow and uh and when someone disrupts my flow and now i
01:38:34.900 have to really i have to think and watch and read and take all and take data and read patterns
01:38:40.780 and i i'm not i'm not at that stage of kickboxing so it's it's like when guys first start sparring
01:38:50.060 they just react to everything they're not worried about their technique they're not right about
01:38:53.800 worried about what they're doing they're just reacting and they're trying to wing win every
01:38:58.140 spa rather than trying to do the technique proper they're actually trying to win and they're doing
01:39:03.200 bad techniques so that they can land and win because they don't actually you know that's
01:39:06.620 kind of where I am with kickboxing um there is with boxing I can use the technique and change
01:39:11.960 the technique and change my pattern and look for openings you know because the first thing I do
01:39:16.160 when I get punched I go what hit me because if it's a left hook whatever more than likely in a
01:39:21.840 few and a couple more exchanges he's going to do the exact same thing again so really once I get
01:39:26.920 hit I have now I have a way to hit him because I know he's going to do that again I know I know
01:39:31.420 and I know how to defend it because I I can break down every move and so straight away bang straight
01:39:35.460 right what hit me all right now i'm going to use my shield and come back so i'm not at that stage
01:39:40.640 of kickboxing so a lot of it's react you know reactionary it's not it's not like um because
01:39:46.140 boxing isn't for dumb people it's not for low iq grugs that are going to stand there and brawl
01:39:51.140 those guys don't they don't do really well you really need to take data you need to focus and
01:39:56.460 you need to you need to know what is coming at you and what and what you need to return
01:40:00.060 it's not just let's see who's quicker oh he did that i'm going to try to get him you know
01:40:04.420 like when you really get good at boxing when you really get experience um it becomes real
01:40:10.520 strategic that's why they call it a sweet science it's not a game you don't play boxing
01:40:16.240 yeah i 100 agree and you like if you've done any sparring in both any form of kickboxing and boxing
01:40:24.700 if you spar somebody who is like professional level good in boxing if they don't want you to
01:40:32.020 hit you you are not going to hit them like if they're that much better than you like you're
01:40:35.520 just not going to land anything because there's there's so much tighter whereas in kickboxing
01:40:39.320 there's always openings like even it's much more um attrition and um volume and like there's there's
01:40:49.100 always because there's so many variables there's so much stuff going on that there's always an
01:40:53.100 opening somewhere so even if you're just throwing randomly like you could hit you know a uh you know
01:40:59.040 a tie fighter because it's it's much more of an open sport like they're just you know
01:41:04.160 you see that like uh i mean it's also a rock'em sock'em robot sport the way a lot of ties do it so
01:41:10.960 you know you've got to respect like mma and kickboxing especially mma there's just so much
01:41:19.880 so many paths to victory there's so much to learn there are guys that are pretty complete athletes
01:41:26.440 but like in a lifetime can you can you be like a complete mma fighter like um in boxing there's
01:41:33.480 always a guy that is a level above there's always an alexander or there's a floyd mayweather or
01:41:39.460 there's someone that is just he's just you you're not beating him you know what i mean i don't think
01:41:45.140 we've really really seen that in mma yet in in the last 30 years 35 years the mma has been sort
01:41:51.280 of mainstream i don't think we we've really seen like you can say gsp or kabir but like
01:41:57.720 i don't think that you're going to see a guy have a 20 fight battle defense win streak you
01:42:04.360 know what i mean like we'll see who's completely cleaned out the cruiserweight division and now
01:42:08.780 completely cleaned out the heavyweight division already doing a second lap of everybody you know
01:42:13.560 like um i'd love to see someone take out a whole division clean it out in mma and then do a second
01:42:19.620 lap you know what i mean we've seen that countless times boxing you know yeah lomachenko probably
01:42:25.220 just fall short of that but yeah i look at it didn't he back before it was a very it was a very
01:42:31.120 young division he was the first ufc featherweight champion and it was it was like saying how ronda
01:42:37.840 rousey sort of did it but it was a young division you know and a lot of the best bantamweights or
01:42:44.000 featherweights hadn't come into their own or into the ufc yet he was he was sort of fighting guys
01:42:48.740 that was only a kickboxer or guys that were only a wrestler you know um we'll come into the age
01:42:54.700 now i think in mma where we will see complete fighters fight complete fighters and we'll see
01:42:59.980 if they can dominate and and do second second laps but yeah speaking of i'm sorry about all
01:43:07.700 the sports ball talk no like i was i didn't bring you on here and expect you to not talk about this
01:43:14.180 i like talking about this stuff obviously i don't a lot of times i just wanted me to like
01:43:18.940 do a stream with him when ufc was like live and we'll like break it down or commentate it something
01:43:23.560 but like i i hate streaming but trying to get you know we need content so i want to get graham on
01:43:30.640 so here we are well tim hates streaming so well we're out oh there's only very few people i'll
01:43:36.880 stream with you know when you ask me i just doing a joke there well if you hate streaming i'll just
01:43:42.020 remove you i'll just he's getting better though he's getting more comfortable in front of the
01:43:46.280 camera isn't he i don't like i don't understand like yeah i don't i don't like it either but
01:43:51.340 you know you just have to do it look this is when it's the most fun whatever it is you're just
01:43:55.780 talking with people whatever that you know is interesting and you know you you both do people
01:44:01.600 actually want to hear from me i don't know absolutely i'm watching the chat here let me
01:44:05.800 know if you actually want to hear what i'm saying they do i think like if i try to think back to
01:44:11.020 before i was uh you know in real life involved in this sort of stuff this is exactly this i just
01:44:17.600 wanted to hear people who think like i think it doesn't it doesn't necessarily have to be anything
01:44:22.480 too too much substance even just something to pass a few hours like uh there's so many other
01:44:28.620 podcasts out there that are just you know vanilla or whatever are full of shit but just they hear
01:44:34.500 guys talk about their lives but guys who actually think like i think who um who see the world the
01:44:40.440 see it uh i was craving for that kind of content so for sure i think i was gonna ask tim like i
01:44:48.040 was gonna bring this up and i don't know if you are paying attention to it or care or whatnot but
01:44:51.960 like i was generally curious because look i don't tend to care a lot about the celebrity boxing
01:44:58.280 stuff i think it in a way it's good for the sport and in another way i think it's terrible for the
01:45:03.080 sport because it does bring audiences in and now they're they're watching boxing but it's also like
01:45:08.840 it's not actually boxing it's a it's basically it's like one step above pro wrestling
01:45:15.960 so i don't think that's good for the integrity of the sport but i think it's good in terms of like
01:45:20.840 money money and viewers like that that's good so i was genuinely curious what if you're
01:45:26.440 aware of and what you think of the gypsy crusader i don't know what his name is the
01:45:31.960 little horrible for the sport horrible for the integrity if they want to promote people they
01:45:37.400 they can promote him uh vladimir klitschko was like an under he wasn't undefeated but he he was
01:45:42.220 he defended the heavyweight belts for like 12 years and and his brother vitale they were boring
01:45:50.580 fighters i would say they're very good hit and not be hit jab and grab type fighters um they
01:45:55.580 dominated everyone they they they basically beat every american heavyweight which was what made it
01:46:01.380 popular but the problem was that they weren't promoted they um back then america a lot of the
01:46:08.580 promotion was in america but my point is mayweather who was also a jab and grab boring fighter
01:46:12.800 was selling more pay-per-views than even the ufc have been able to do yet uh and he's a very
01:46:20.180 boring fighter he's jab and grab all the same both very skilled like um maybe it was one of the best
01:46:25.940 defensive guys to ever do it you know um everything else aside but if they want to
01:46:32.920 promote somebody they can promote them and and they can sell uh record pay-per-views
01:46:38.060 i don't like like jake paul people are giving respect he fought joshua got his jaw broken
01:46:45.040 if you if you give me 30 million dollars i'll fight joshua in a trilogy
01:46:51.180 100% I'm getting my jaw broken
01:46:55.040 but I don't
01:46:56.940 respect guys for fighting people
01:46:58.880 for tens of millions of dollars but I also
01:47:00.900 don't think it's good for the sport
01:47:02.100 otherwise
01:47:04.220 what are we going to have? We're going to have like
01:47:06.960 Kim Kardashian versus
01:47:10.860 you know fucking Taylor Swift
01:47:13.220 because it's popular
01:47:14.700 see what I mean?
01:47:16.220 but he's irate
01:47:17.720 how much is a pair of reviews
01:47:20.500 I agree
01:47:24.020 Wolfson's barely promoted as well
01:47:25.860 He's barely promoted
01:47:26.800 But he's popular because he's just so good
01:47:29.160 And he beat popular guys
01:47:30.640 He beat Tyson Fury
01:47:32.660 Who's heavily promoted and still probably the best
01:47:35.100 Selling boxer out there
01:47:37.380 Even though he's lost twice to him
01:47:39.980 And that
01:47:40.240 I don't like the freak show fights
01:47:43.960 I don't want to see Mike Tyson's
01:47:46.480 Bare ass on a fucking camera
01:47:47.800 Before he fights Jake Paul
01:47:49.400 or um if you guys know what i'm talking about probably don't but yeah yeah but um
01:47:54.640 uh what's the next one coming up who we got next on the freak show fights well that's what i was
01:48:00.160 so that's what i was kind of leading so first of all i 100 i have never watched one of these
01:48:03.920 freak shows i guess the closest thing i've ever watched to a freak show fight was uh mcgregor
01:48:08.880 versus mayweather like i watched that boxing match and i kind of thought of that it wasn't
01:48:16.340 freak show because like they're both legitimate fighters in their own disciplines obviously but
01:48:20.500 like it still was in a way wasn't it yeah but i'm pretty sure mayweather through
01:48:26.100 six punches in the first round like it was like not even i think i'm not even i think it was three
01:48:30.820 yeah yeah someone look it up yeah comp your box whatever um yeah it was always going to be that
01:48:37.060 it was always going to be it was exactly what and that was about he got that on his record
01:48:40.740 that made him 50 you know like unbelievable but this is what i mean it's like i i don't
01:48:46.740 have any i thought i don't like the power slap shit i don't like i let bear is fine but with
01:48:53.300 real fighters obviously the freak show netflix stuff i have no interest people like i get asked
01:48:58.660 are you gonna watch jake paul fight tyson i'm like no like why like what why is that fun to
01:49:04.020 watch 60 year old mike tyson fight a streamer i don't i actually watched the joshua the joshua
01:49:10.260 to fight, but mostly because
01:49:11.860 I was actually interested to see what his
01:49:14.300 I don't think they're fixed or anything like that
01:49:16.160 I'm not one of these people that's completely fixed
01:49:18.180 and I don't think Josh would
01:49:19.120 I wanted to see what strategy Paul was going to
01:49:22.300 use to try to get through
01:49:24.360 the fight, because I knew he wasn't going to try to win the fight
01:49:26.060 in my mind I was like, he's not going to try to win this fight
01:49:28.240 so what's the gimmick here
01:49:30.320 what's he doing, and it turned out that
01:49:31.860 the gimmick was to try and run away
01:49:34.360 and wrestle
01:49:35.820 and to basically get through the rounds
01:49:38.620 that's it, that's all it was
01:49:39.840 he wasn't he wasn't trying to even land shots on on um although he did actually on one shot but he
01:49:44.300 wasn't he wasn't really trying to land shots on on joshua he was just trying to run away
01:49:48.600 wrestle him it was again and it was a free it was another freak show but to the untrained today
01:49:53.840 to the untrained people out there that you might watch it and actually think jay paul's done well
01:49:59.380 because he hasn't been knocked out in the first three he's gone through three four rounds five
01:50:02.700 rounds against joshua and not got knocked out does that mean he's really good you know if you
01:50:07.180 don't know something about boxing so i i hated for that reason if we lived in a world that wasn't
01:50:12.580 full of fake news and propaganda it'd be it'd probably be an interesting concept but you don't
01:50:19.620 get popular on youtube unless they want you popular on youtube you know you don't get popular
01:50:24.740 unless they want you to be popular at all full stop so like having these people that are artificial
01:50:32.660 and just because they tell us that they get like they tell us what's the best number one song they
01:50:37.980 tell us what's the number one movie it doesn't mean that they're good but just because these
01:50:41.840 people are celebrities it doesn't mean they should jump over people that have worked their
01:50:46.440 whole entire life and dedicated themselves to a craft to be the best i just don't think
01:50:51.020 um to push ourselves you know as a people and to to strive to be the best individual at that craft
01:51:00.360 you know i don't think this is the way to promote it and do it mayweather was so big with mayweather
01:51:06.220 mcgregor was so big with mayweather because mayweather just got done doing world tours
01:51:11.380 with jose aldo being promoted in every country for their fight that lasted 13 seconds
01:51:16.820 and then he did it again and did a world tour with eddie alvarez to get uh two belts now they
01:51:24.060 could do world tours with anybody and and do press conferences and these big things and build
01:51:29.360 them up you know organically with real fighters they could make real fighters celebrities they
01:51:34.200 want a lot of fighters have youtube channels and and do all sorts of podcasts and stuff
01:51:39.200 but i think i think it's deliberately done to generate boxing or not deliberately but it does
01:51:44.920 degenerate boxing regardless so i i agree like they can do a lot to promote the best guys if
01:51:51.840 they want to but there's an element of like the showmanship is is part of that level of boxing
01:51:58.180 isn't it because like when you when it comes down to like you want opportunity so like look at good
01:52:02.360 examples are somebody like um gsp right terrible at promoting his own fights like just like too
01:52:09.820 nice like too professional to what i like not enough you know trash talk whereas chael sunning
01:52:15.480 mcgregor like these guys the biggest pay-per-view of his time gsp oh yeah look at the record when he
01:52:23.720 was in his element with his lay and pray style he was the number one pay-per-view and he was humble
01:52:30.240 not a trash talker yeah and he didn't really fight a very popular person maybe till nick diaz
01:52:35.800 so like he was able to build off people like jake shields and and other guys that didn't really have
01:52:42.340 a massive public profile you know not like when you're talking about mcgregor or alex perera or
01:52:48.060 something like that and he was able to be the biggest pay-per-view star that you see had to
01:52:51.400 date you know so but this is so look the what you're yeah of course he's very likeable he's
01:52:58.480 like i love him obviously he's can't his best ufc fighter ever or mma fighter ever so obviously
01:53:03.980 i'm a fan i have a fucking t-shirt gsp t-shirt fucks but i can see how like as a promotion when
01:53:10.680 you you're not going to get the who the fuck is that guy you're not going to get that moment out
01:53:15.660 of a gsp and so that's the moment that goes viral that's the moment that hypes the fight right
01:53:20.900 yeah so like that's i can see why that is you know something that helps but no you can't
01:53:26.480 i wouldn't be probably because i myself wouldn't wouldn't conduct myself like that and you know
01:53:33.220 when it cut like it is prize fighting at the end of the day but you you have to sell but like at
01:53:38.380 the end of the day a promoter like dana white or eddie hearn or whoever should be oh um this guy's
01:53:48.020 Ranked number one
01:53:49.680 He's fighting for the title
01:53:50.780 Oh yeah
01:53:51.320 But ranked number four
01:53:52.500 Sells more pay-per-views
01:53:54.100 Who gives a fuck
01:53:54.860 Like
01:53:56.200 Who cares
01:53:57.180 Jews
01:53:58.340 I don't give a fuck
01:54:00.320 Sorry I didn't say that
01:54:01.120 I'm a boxer
01:54:03.080 That's what David's argument is
01:54:04.760 All the time as well
01:54:05.560 Is that
01:54:05.920 In boxing
01:54:06.700 They don't do that
01:54:07.400 They don't do that
01:54:09.200 But then he has
01:54:09.820 A fucking
01:54:10.860 Interim title
01:54:12.620 With
01:54:13.240 With like
01:54:14.140 A grandpa
01:54:14.940 Stipe Miocic
01:54:16.100 And
01:54:16.380 Drug cheat
01:54:17.500 John Bones Jones, while Aspinall is
01:54:19.500 the champion and ready to fight.
01:54:21.580 They could have put him
01:54:22.600 in the same card together.
01:54:25.340 The same thing happened like Michael Bisping
01:54:27.540 fought for a title against GSP.
01:54:29.420 Rob Whittaker was
01:54:30.360 standing there like John Travolta.
01:54:33.680 If you're in the UFC's defense,
01:54:35.400 you'll never get a Mayweather Pacquiao situation.
01:54:37.980 Well, there's a Mayweather Pacquiao too
01:54:39.460 now because of this bullshit. Who the fuck wants to
01:54:41.420 see that?
01:54:42.440 They were too old when they fought the first time.
01:54:44.920 And they'll say that it sold this much, but who the fuck's
01:54:47.260 watching that oh man if you're watching that you're gonna watch it i ain't i'm not gonna watch
01:54:51.920 that no way what's the highlights on um on telegram someone post them and then watch it
01:54:58.520 i'm trying to think of a good example or an analogy for this but it's kind of like there's
01:55:04.260 well what's good um like you know whenever there's something there's something and that
01:55:11.140 somebody says like oh i'm a fan and you go okay yeah like what are you into and then they tell
01:55:15.140 you what you're like music or something like oh yeah i love um whatever i i love rap and they're
01:55:21.960 like oh who are you into and they say um you know uh marky mark and the funky bunch or something
01:55:30.840 you're like what the fuck like like or i i love punk oh what are you into and they're like uh
01:55:38.460 you know simple plan or like some like you know what i mean like some like oh what are you okay
01:55:44.140 like that's what you when they say you're a boxing fan you're like oh what do you like who's
01:55:48.600 your favorite fighter and they go i love jake paul it's like you're a fucking retard like
01:55:51.880 we are not the same it's just accessible and it's and and and it sells you know and people
01:55:58.800 buy what sells i guess and but when um you know when i when you have such passion for boxing
01:56:05.360 you know when you live and breathe it and you grew up on it you know watch and watching and
01:56:11.520 Andrew Tate fight, whoever the fuck
01:56:13.340 that other guy was, like,
01:56:15.180 did you see the, I don't know if you've seen that, but did you see the highlights
01:56:17.500 of that other guy's fights?
01:56:19.420 Like,
01:56:21.220 I've never, you know, like, Tate in his prime
01:56:23.420 would have destroyed that guy.
01:56:27.880 And I actually watched that
01:56:29.380 because, obviously,
01:56:31.740 I know one of the Tate
01:56:33.460 insiders.
01:56:35.160 So I was interested and I was rooting
01:56:37.380 for him, but,
01:56:39.420 man,
01:56:39.620 that it showed that he had a lot of ring rust and it showed that he wasn't like he was more
01:56:47.940 of a kickboxer than a boxer. But the other guy just was horrible and he just wrestled
01:56:53.020 him and won. It was the most messiest fight I've ever seen. And the fact that it was a
01:56:57.080 pay-per-view, it was actually a pay-per-view on Rumble, which is an interesting concept.
01:57:02.420 Maybe imagine if our organization didn't disband, we could have done some pay-per-views on Rumble.
01:57:07.560 you could have seen you could have seen your favorite guys like rob rundo versus gabe seymour
01:57:11.760 or something like that and pay you raise some money like that would be good i would love if
01:57:17.760 we could do like we've all thrown these out as um you know like challenges or whatever to for
01:57:23.760 before but it's like you know put up your 10 best antifa super soldiers and let's do a charity card
01:57:30.500 winner decides where the money got like which which you know institution or organization the
01:57:35.320 money goes to like imagine the police you'd need for something like that you'd have to do it like
01:57:41.100 king of the streets in an underground car park somewhere with a location and you can bring like
01:57:46.320 one guy or whatever but like even then they wouldn't do when i have my gym um they would
01:57:52.100 always they would always comment or say shit or whatever and i'd just be like yeah all right the
01:57:58.220 address to the gym's public just just come down and knock on the door and sign the waiver sign
01:58:04.060 waiver we can legally put on some gloves and and you can punch nazis that's what you've always
01:58:09.180 dreamed of doing no one ever showed up no one ever so they showed up to vandalize the place but they
01:58:14.540 know no one ever showed up and knocked on the door and said hey i'll totally
01:58:18.700 against everything you believe and and live for um knuckle up you know not so it'll yeah that'll
01:58:25.580 never happen maybe if they're out bring their hammers i it's so funny did you see what i posted
01:58:33.580 today yeah yeah you covered the german thing recently as well but yeah i seen what you posted
01:58:39.900 this morning yeah i didn't well what did that lefty in canada talking about uh he tried to
01:58:45.500 he tried to flip flip the script didn't he we can we can i can explain it briefly but so we've
01:58:51.660 had a lot of media attention in the past two weeks and one of the we'll call her a journalist but
01:58:59.580 but that's being very gracious to her um who who writes about us frequently and makes videos about
01:59:06.540 us blah blah blah she's a tiktok journalist right air quotes um she actually ran in by happenstance
01:59:15.020 to two of our guys one of whom that she doxed they went into a bar and she was there her boyfriend
01:59:20.800 was playing music there and so she freaked the fuck out and um you know basically had a meltdown
01:59:27.600 over this and like you know they're it's funny because you know they're the left antifa you know
01:59:33.600 journalist organizations they're you know police need to take action and what do you want them to
01:59:38.380 it's not illegal like at least not yet it's not illegal to exist in fucking public around people
01:59:43.800 who don't like you if you're you know right wing or something so they didn't do anything illegal
01:59:49.100 and now you know the the jew who runs the or is the executive director of the canadian anti-hate
01:59:55.220 network is saying that the the thing that this reminds him of most is when apparently blood and
02:00:02.020 honor so actually it's funny because i didn't know what he he referred to an incident and i wasn't
02:00:06.900 aware of what it was uh where allegedly blood and honor members in 2012 uh you know did performed a
02:00:14.580 home invasion on an antifa shit heel and beat him with uh batons or like i i don't know it wasn't
02:00:22.080 hammers but anyways there there was no arrests on this it was never proven that it was blood this
02:00:27.380 is pure speculation so one he's just making shit up like he they don't know who it was nobody was
02:00:32.460 charged antifa just claims it was these guys so i guess it must have been because you know they're
02:00:38.940 always right or something but regardless you know he brings up that incident and you know
02:00:43.520 says that nationalists are attacking people with hammers and this a journalist running into somebody
02:00:50.960 she doesn't like is that that's pretty comparable like this is in the same realm of like getting
02:00:55.980 beaten with a hammer and the irony obviously is that well there's literally an antifa cell in
02:01:01.520 europe based out of germany that calls themselves the hammer gang and they plan hits with hammers
02:01:08.600 like they've beaten the shit out of politicians uh activists like there's i think a dozen plus
02:01:14.740 cases where they've done this and seven of them went to trial or are still on trial as of november
02:01:22.420 2025 and so like these apparently we need to be listed as a terrorist organization because we do
02:01:30.820 activism and we do combat sports but antifa doesn't when they attack people with fucking hammers
02:01:37.760 like coordinated political violence so like yeah i mean everybody knows the hypocrisy tim is
02:01:43.760 definitely one of the people who knows about the hypocrisy more than anyone from what he went
02:01:47.380 through on that was 2024 right yeah yeah christmas eve 2024 yeah so i'm most of the audience will be
02:01:58.380 familiar with that but if you're not tim's home and vehicle was firebombed i mean i guess by
02:02:04.180 someone but i mean it's pretty obvious who would have done that um or the type of person who would
02:02:08.700 have done that and what became of it nothing did the police care no did the media write extensively
02:02:14.300 about the dangers of you know far left extremism and the hazards of you know doxing nationalist
02:02:20.160 activists did they no they don't give a fuck so i mean that we know who did it like we we we know
02:02:29.180 who did it so the police didn't take any photos there were still uh firebombs on my front lawn
02:02:35.900 They just left them there
02:02:37.340 They didn't take any fingerprints
02:02:39.040 They left the burnt out vehicle there
02:02:40.940 The dogs are hunting something
02:02:44.940 Antifa's probably there
02:02:46.480 And then
02:02:51.460 Yeah, it was just
02:02:54.260 That was what really
02:02:56.200 Pushed me over the limit
02:02:58.140 Like I was
02:02:58.820 You know, that was what radicalised me
02:03:01.900 Because I was like
02:03:02.600 and I think Blair Cottrell said it the best at the time
02:03:05.940 you would have thought in a country like Australia
02:03:07.960 that even when something like that happened
02:03:09.540 that they would pretend
02:03:10.980 and they would come in and they would take fingers and say they would pretend
02:03:14.040 but the fact that they did nothing
02:03:16.060 you know the fact that they didn't
02:03:18.460 the media mocked me for it
02:03:20.400 and the fact that the media
02:03:22.540 didn't condemn it
02:03:23.740 or even talk about it in a negative light
02:03:26.880 it was like the police
02:03:28.620 and the media were condoning it
02:03:29.980 and willing it to happen again
02:03:31.900 you know so um yeah that's that's pretty much the whole situation and yeah it's hypocrisy
02:03:40.900 and it's you know a lot worse in germany i have heard about how bad it is in germany
02:03:46.020 the uk like there's yeah there's a i mean we everybody who's listening i assume
02:03:54.860 knows this but um yeah it almost gets tiresome having to point it out right i find myself doing
02:04:02.500 like look at the hypocrisy between this incident and this incident and it's like yeah like it
02:04:06.800 nobody gives a shit like we give a shit but like nobody else seems to care and the problem with
02:04:11.880 this is like i it's frustrating because joel you know any of your guys like jacob jimbo like the
02:04:21.580 guys who are going through these legal cases it's almost like i don't understand how some of these
02:04:26.320 uh more moderate you know conservative types don't see that this is where the fight is whether you
02:04:32.400 like it or not whether you like it or not this is where the real fight is taking place and you
02:04:38.220 won't get involved because you're afraid of defending somebody who doesn't agree with you
02:04:42.840 and that should tell you everything about the situation right there the fact that you're
02:04:46.340 fucking terrified to even just legally or not not agree with someone not endorse their opinions not
02:04:53.540 you know join up with them but just defend them based on legal and moral grounds because what's
02:05:01.040 happening is wrong because one what a coward you are and two why we're losing like you you are
02:05:07.020 afraid to stand up for people if it's going to get you ostracized as well and that's how we ended up
02:05:12.900 in this situation so makes you no better makes you no better than the bloody left you know
02:05:18.660 yeah no better than the celebrity no better one of the ways i like to explain this to people
02:05:25.920 like take uh what's one of your good ones there um i'll use one of ours that you guys would know
02:05:32.320 like justin trudeau right absolute shitbag effeminate little queer um but did you ever
02:05:39.620 hear him talk about how you know look it's totally fine to be transgender but maybe dancing naked in
02:05:46.840 front of kids is a little bit extreme and we should you know not we should disavow that and
02:05:52.000 that's not right no they never do that but every time you know the media labels a group racist all
02:05:58.000 of the conservative you know moderately right-wing whoever it is that leans right you know lines up
02:06:03.860 to tell the left how much they hate those people and how much they disavow them and how much like
02:06:08.740 they cock every fucking time um and the left doesn't do that and that's why they win and
02:06:14.940 joel was great on this topic at explaining you know how this works and the issue yeah it was
02:06:20.600 an adelaide speech yeah um well you mentioned jimbo jimbo is currently in prison uh for the
02:06:29.720 refugee for grandma's incident where he went up and yelled at a bunch of grandmas advocating for
02:06:36.400 uh refugees to have free access to australia was like a week after the murder of a grandma
02:06:43.520 white grandma in uh by an african gang in uh violin white in uh brisbane which uh he's now
02:06:50.980 appealing his sentence one of the guys that did that and um but yeah nevertheless jimbo's in
02:06:57.320 prison so um we'll share a link or ferry or one of us will share a link after the stream
02:07:03.440 just send him a letter
02:07:05.000 let him know
02:07:05.480 you're thinking of him
02:07:06.180 he's got 60 days
02:07:08.380 I think he's
02:07:09.060 four or five days in
02:07:11.200 so
02:07:11.560 yeah
02:07:12.280 he let them know
02:07:13.400 he gave them a piece
02:07:14.140 of his mind
02:07:14.660 a week after
02:07:15.860 while he had been killed
02:07:17.060 he gave these grannies
02:07:18.080 a piece of his mind
02:07:18.820 he rhetorically
02:07:19.900 destroyed them
02:07:20.920 he was called
02:07:21.680 for his language
02:07:22.340 but he didn't threaten them
02:07:23.560 he destroyed their rhetoric
02:07:25.800 and
02:07:28.000 he's been punished for it
02:07:29.820 yeah
02:07:30.040 he's been put
02:07:31.320 behind bars
02:07:32.380 you know
02:07:33.160 for letting them know that their ideas
02:07:37.120 is what's leading to the death of people like Violaine White
02:07:40.660 and our grandmothers, you know,
02:07:43.320 are putting our children in danger.
02:07:45.840 And these women just, no matter what happened,
02:07:48.420 they continue to advocate for the destruction
02:07:52.220 of what we know and love.
02:07:54.880 So Jimbo let them know, gave them a piece of his mind,
02:07:57.640 and now he's in jail.
02:07:59.460 So, yeah, send them letters.
02:08:01.140 i just uh i did just go forward it on telegram because i remembered seeing it and then was doing
02:08:07.820 something else and forgot but uh there's uh lee's got the information there up on the screen
02:08:12.600 i'll leave it up there for a second um are you guys good to take a quick break and then we'll
02:08:18.360 come back and we'll do the uh super chats whatever you guys can take a leak or it's just yeah i'll
02:08:24.200 play a couple songs and whatnot and then uh i have this i had to stop my dogs uh we just moved
02:08:30.140 to new players and they're not used to wildlife so we got roos everywhere and they get excited
02:08:35.280 when they see the roos um so i have to kind of stop them i'm trying to train them out chasing
02:08:40.580 them so you say roos like kangaroos kangaroos yeah kangaroos yeah so as soon as they see them
02:08:47.060 the day and gets excited and goes trying to chase them the other one's not as bad but
02:08:50.420 you got to stop them so i'm in the middle of australia could be snakes yeah drop bears you
02:08:57.240 heard about the drop bears yeah oh yeah i heard about the drop very scary very dangerous big
02:09:01.200 bangs they come from the trees yeah poison poisonous right yeah poisonous yeah yeah
02:09:07.460 all right you go the video the the video is she a reporter or whatever she's like they got her in
02:09:17.480 like kevlar and she's like terrified it's yeah it's funny well there's yeah they're like teddy
02:09:23.640 with this yeah all right so how long how long a break are you going to take it'll be like
02:09:28.540 five six minutes maybe yeah perfect yeah okay i'll see you guys
02:09:32.700 week. See you all right.
02:10:02.700 Off to the harbour under dungeon in the morning
02:10:06.740 I got a press gang looking after me
02:10:09.400 I'll awaken sometime on the morrow
02:10:12.260 And by then will be a legal way to sleep
02:10:14.820 Full sails bouncing on the friday
02:10:17.580 I swear about the spray and bring me to the day
02:10:20.000 I'm telling by the swales and adventures in the making
02:10:22.860 That's if we don't dive on the way
02:10:25.280 Well I'm the boy, the rusty boy that took me out to sea
02:10:27.980 The captain is a tyrant and he tells me what to do
02:10:30.640 But the first ravers are cutthroat with a mirror near its spot
02:10:33.200 He plans to take the country and feed them to the sharks
02:10:36.040 We'll never forget the press, hanging in the trunches in the morning
02:10:44.020 What the navy did to me, it pressed me on the sea
02:10:46.540 I'm still alive and I've survived so many years later
02:10:49.320 As big a buccaneer as I can claim to be
02:10:52.080 For sale, bounding on the Friday
02:10:54.680 Jolly rocks, flopping with a score of 84
02:10:57.000 Many pretty trunches, lots of boots you dare be taken
02:10:59.960 Cannon and the captain is on a rebel man of war
02:11:02.600 I was a boy to try to then advance me out to sea
02:11:05.240 And now I am the captain and I tell you what to do
02:11:07.900 My first witness to cutthroat, a target from the skill
02:11:10.540 He plans to skill and get the king and beat him to the crew
02:11:13.000 We are saved from our home and cross the ocean
02:11:19.920 From the sea, for whatever reasons be
02:11:27.620 We question all authority
02:11:31.980 Full sail bouncing on the body
02:11:42.360 Charlie Rogers flapping with a score of 84
02:11:44.800 Many pretty treasures, lots of booty to be taken
02:11:47.620 The cannon and the cutlass on a rebel nanoway
02:11:50.200 We are sailing from a home and
02:11:54.900 Cross the ocean, our mercy
02:11:58.720 For whatever reasons be
02:12:04.520 We question our authority
02:12:08.860 We are saving from our home and
02:12:15.640 Cross the ocean, our mercy
02:12:19.580 For whatever amazes me
02:12:25.680 We question our authority
02:12:29.700 Oh come tell me Sean O'Farrell
02:12:42.140 Tell me why you hurry so
02:12:45.340 Hush a vocal, hush and listen
02:12:48.420 And his cheeks were all aglue
02:12:51.680 I bear orders from the captain
02:12:56.640 Get you ready quick and soon
02:12:59.940 For the pikes must be together
02:13:02.940 By the rising of the moon
02:13:18.420 Oh, come tell me, Sean O'Farrell, where the gathering is to be
02:13:40.720 At the old spot by the river, quite well known to you and me
02:13:45.060 One more word for signal token, whistle out the marching tune
02:13:49.480 With your bike upon your shoulder by the rising of the moon
02:13:53.700 By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
02:13:58.120 With your bike upon your shoulder by the rising of the moon
02:14:02.500 Out from Mania mud while cabin eyes were watching through the night
02:14:16.320 Mania manly heart was beaten for the blessed warning light
02:14:20.740 Murmurs rang along the valleys to the banshee's lonely croon
02:14:25.140 And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon
02:14:29.440 By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
02:14:33.800 And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon
02:14:38.260 All along that singing river
02:14:58.620 That black mass of men was seen
02:15:00.880 High above their shining weapons
02:15:03.040 Flew their own beloved green
02:15:05.040 Death to every foe and traitor
02:15:07.200 Whistle out the marching tune
02:15:09.460 And our army buys her freedom
02:15:11.620 At the rising of the moon
02:15:37.200 By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
02:15:46.760 For the pikes must be together, by the rising of the moon
02:15:52.600 By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
02:15:58.700 With your pike upon your shoulder, by the rising of the moon
02:16:04.360 By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
02:16:10.200 At a thousand pipes worth flashing, by the rising of the moon
02:16:15.540 By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
02:16:20.840 But the pipes must be together, by the rising of the moon
02:16:25.740 At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon
02:16:30.680 And an army buys for freedom at the rising of the moon
02:17:00.680 all right so we'll bring uh the guys back up in a second there but before we do that i'm just
02:17:08.500 gonna shill the give send goes one more time for joel and brandon so we've got uh brandon
02:17:17.200 kaushal who uh again if you're not aware you should look into what happened to him but
02:17:21.740 during a protest he uh said some words on stage that offended a group of people who wear small
02:17:28.240 hats and have big noses and uh that got him a year in prison um so if you can help out in you know
02:17:35.440 the trouble that his family's gonna have to endure because of this without uh with the loss
02:17:40.940 of income and whatnot uh you know every little bit helps obviously and uh the other one obviously
02:17:46.080 is sorry that's uh give send go.com forward slash brandon's family that's b-r-a-n-d-a-n-s
02:17:53.620 Brandon um and the other one is obviously uh Joel Davis who uh still being held in uh prison
02:18:01.860 in absurd conditions for two words that in and of themselves should have negated the charge
02:18:10.840 but uh you know it's not about uh what's actually uh the law or correct or moral or anything like
02:18:18.960 that so he's going to have a quite a large uh legal battle on his hands and he's going to need
02:18:24.000 a war chest for that so if you can chip in please do and uh i think uh i wonder if it's gone uh yeah
02:18:31.260 it's been going up during the stream so hopefully uh you know this helped uh without uh you know
02:18:38.480 any further ado though let's just get back into things uh we'll do some super chat stuff
02:18:43.880 him will be back there in a second
02:18:48.220 is he like did I offend him
02:18:50.560 yeah he's
02:18:52.640 he's off having a whinge
02:18:54.360 I'm not playing enough German music
02:18:56.900 no that's
02:18:58.480 exactly it that's what he said he said what's all this
02:19:00.540 Irish music but I know I
02:19:02.600 appreciate it I appreciate it a lot it's actually
02:19:04.660 making me want to pint a Guinness
02:19:06.680 I'll be honest
02:19:07.300 although I'm Irish
02:19:10.520 I love Irish folk music
02:19:12.240 i'm like 11 years old dropkick murphy's and i was like yeah this is the and then
02:19:16.960 it just kept going and now i like the more traditional stuff and older stuff and i do
02:19:20.640 like the more punk celtic rock stuff so it's often a heavy um content but it but it's really upbeat
02:19:29.040 you know let's just for a second they usually just let him know i'm back
02:19:36.640 well mine's doing it come on bud you want to say hello
02:19:42.000 no oh who's that that's strider
02:19:48.080 he's camera shy sometimes hey buddy this is uh this is victor great name
02:19:59.360 so this is now just uh a dog stream um
02:20:06.640 no yeah we were just having a dog moment there everybody loves it so
02:20:15.360 if they don't like it then i don't trust them so they can fuck off
02:20:18.500 what's funny we were just talking about folk music and i think i was talking about this with
02:20:27.060 i think i've talked about this with tom once and i talked about it with norm norman from patriot
02:20:31.120 front recently it's like there's two things with me it's like you don't like dogs like you don't
02:20:35.740 have to like dogs like a lot of people they don't want to have a dog but they don't hate them like
02:20:40.240 it's not like they they'll still like they're friendly with them whatever it's like that's
02:20:43.800 like one way of like it's weird to me whenever you just absolutely hate them and then the other
02:20:49.580 one for me is like folk music if you like you don't have to it doesn't have to be your favorite
02:20:53.100 shit but if you hate folk music especially as a like a european i'm like what is there's something
02:20:58.500 disconnected with you like what why can't you just enjoy like a nice you know um wholesome
02:21:04.820 folk song like something wrong now i understand often why people don't want dogs though because
02:21:13.480 they are you know they're a massive um a lot of things you can't do once you have dogs like uh
02:21:20.540 you can't just take off for a few days here and there you know there's the things to plan and
02:21:24.900 the most controversial moment
02:21:27.240 the most controversial moment ever
02:21:31.560 on the Joel and Blair show was when they kicked
02:21:33.540 off the stream with a rant against
02:21:35.460 dogs and I was just like oh I had an existential
02:21:37.640 crisis I was like I don't know if I can like
02:21:39.480 these guys anymore
02:21:40.300 yeah
02:21:41.160 no they're making like valid points
02:21:45.060 a lot of people shouldn't have them and they do
02:21:47.560 and it yeah
02:21:48.480 that's true yeah
02:21:50.960 you can't really
02:21:52.720 i i had a german shepherd when my kids were growing up but he needs space i lived in like
02:21:59.180 suburbia you can't you can't have a german shepherd in suburbia so if you can't you don't
02:22:04.920 have the time to walk him twice a day and that exactly to be pretty on the ball like yeah if
02:22:10.660 you're busy then yeah you shouldn't have one but um let's get into some of these here uh justice
02:22:15.940 for fathers just said white power um post the x said free joel davis absolutely we were just
02:22:22.300 talking about that uh lose views says great guest alex cheers thank you very much uh the beard said
02:22:27.820 no joke the media regularly reports about the police down there being charged with all kinds
02:22:33.020 of sex crimes the police down there sound like real pigs terrific collaboration i don't know
02:22:37.820 all our enemies are pedophiles yeah all supporters pedophile supporters so this this recent like a
02:22:45.020 hamilton police officer was just charged with uh sex crimes involved i don't know i think it was
02:22:50.540 child sex abuse material maybe it was an actual like assault or something like that but there's
02:22:55.460 all these examples of this shit happening we've seen it with politicians like the epstein shit
02:22:59.440 obviously um like it just goes on and on like yeah that is it's correct all our enemies are
02:23:04.740 pedophiles it actually reminds me of we talked about it earlier at our destroy peter freaks
02:23:09.900 rally and it was the first time i was ever interviewed at anything and it was one of those
02:23:14.540 uh street streamers came up to me or come up to us and uh he just started asking questions and i
02:23:22.360 i kind of was the closest one there that could speak and i started explaining you know he was
02:23:28.000 asking who are we and i was explaining well we fight for and i was explaining and then he said
02:23:32.100 and who are these guys over there and i go oh they're pedophiles like it comes like a blanket
02:23:37.400 they're pedophiles for about 2 000 for about 300 antiviral 400 antiviral whatever it was you know
02:23:42.380 communists but uh essentially i said they're pedophiles and they're pedophile apologists
02:23:46.380 i actually i might try and find that clip and post it on the offensive page after this
02:23:50.700 that's what they do to us if like i like i'm not a national socialist i get called a nazi all the
02:23:58.300 time or like i if i you know object this like the framing of something in history and like yeah like
02:24:03.520 this was early for me i started objecting to like just certain factual things about the narrative
02:24:08.440 around world war ii and like you immediately get called a nazi like like even when i was much
02:24:13.160 younger i'm like i'm not defending i'm just saying like that's objectively incorrect like that's
02:24:18.000 clearly propaganda and they'll label you a nazi so if everybody who's a nazi quote-unquote
02:24:22.860 apologist or historical revisionist is a nazi well then everybody who uh you know defends this
02:24:30.380 this racket of pedophilia that exists within the state as it as it currently you know stands well
02:24:36.320 they're also pedophiles yeah i like to use this too with um like if you support uh immigration
02:24:43.220 you're a fucking rapist at this point if you support immigration you're a fucking murderer
02:24:47.780 because that's the result of the policies that you're supporting so what's the difference
02:24:51.440 yeah you're you're choosing to turn a blind eye to the results of your of your belief system like
02:24:56.460 no matter how many proofs there are no matter how many rapes murders home invasions machete attacks
02:25:04.220 no matter how many there are at you just keep defending your your bloody worldview you know
02:25:08.240 it's like one of those good example that too is you know the the pro-life for the you know
02:25:15.020 anti-abortion uh people that um they'll hold pictures of what abortions look like at rallies
02:25:21.900 or protests stuff like that or even just like they'll stand on a street corner and say like
02:25:25.340 this is what you support when you support you know pro-choice or whatever and people hate that
02:25:30.680 like it like i think they actually banned it in the province that i live in like you cannot go
02:25:35.940 to certain places with pictures of you know what abortions actually look like and you know people
02:25:41.820 complain it's like it's disgusting and we don't want to look at it's like yeah but they're not
02:25:45.360 the ones saying that we should be doing this stuff you are you're the one like you're the
02:25:49.740 one who supports these policies and you don't want to look at what your policies actually result in
02:25:55.580 like you're a fucking coward yeah fucking coward that can't even just accept like like look i can
02:26:02.500 like meat is like factory farming is fucking cruel right it's cruel and it's gross and like it
02:26:10.780 shouldn't be like that but i can like look at those videos and be like yeah that's fucked and
02:26:14.960 i'm still gonna go to the grocery store and get fucking burger meat yeah if i wish i wasn't like
02:26:20.660 that but i'm gonna do it's like i can accept it like yeah this is the ramifications of the choices
02:26:24.620 i make and like it's not right but it is what it is like they can't do that right they have to hide
02:26:29.980 from it constantly so yeah exactly it's the same as these uh environmental environmentalist types
02:26:36.840 you know it's all it's all most of them it's all just for social standing there's no actual
02:26:41.440 plans to do anything or you know i i can agree with a lot of stuff on on the environment even
02:26:47.000 you know what i mean but not like um oftentimes you know even if you look at stuff like google
02:26:53.740 earth and stuff like that and you just see like nothing but paddocks and fields and fences and
02:26:58.920 paddocks and feet and it almost if you look at it on google earth from a distance it almost does
02:27:02.740 look like a scar on the earth you know and the roads and all this sort of thing and there is
02:27:06.240 probably better ways to do this i'm uh uh i did architecture in university i've worked as an
02:27:11.600 engineer 15 or 20 years and i know there's many ways we could do do this better you know we could
02:27:17.500 build um cities and towns and roads and all this sort of thing that are more in harmony with with
02:27:23.700 the with the planet with the surface of the planet that are more in harmony with with um wildlife and
02:27:27.820 stuff like that but um all these people that are militantly environmentalists they're not actually
02:27:33.640 doing anything where is that where where is their passion for actually doing something you know
02:27:38.820 something uh in real life something practical like where's the where's the where's these plans
02:27:44.060 like where's these uh plans for better roads better cities better this better that it's it's
02:27:48.820 all just for social standard that's it's i liked i also did you know architecture in college and
02:27:56.940 that was before i started this shit like that was what i did for a living i designed houses
02:28:00.600 and one thing i couldn't stand is the like yes like sound environmental practices should be
02:28:08.760 exercised but what you guys are talking about is not sound environmental practices it's it's
02:28:13.820 I called it like bourgeois, you know, environmentalism or it's basically show like it's pure show.
02:28:21.860 Like it's so it's either a system that is so prohibitively expensive and complicated that, yes, it does work and it does run more efficiently, but nobody can afford it.
02:28:33.420 So, like, what is the like, why are you the only people who can afford these things are the extremely wealthy?
02:28:38.520 So it's like it's, you know, champagne.
02:28:41.740 environmentalism in line with the wef eating bugs and yeah living in pods or the other thing is like
02:28:49.140 the i don't know if you guys have this the in some places we still still do and in some places
02:28:54.180 they got rid of them the paper straw shit oh still here still here no no here here all right this is
02:29:02.520 a rant someone clip this here you get a paper straw it comes wrapped in plastic in a fucking
02:29:10.460 plastic cup like give me one of those paper milkshake cups and then give me the plastic
02:29:16.200 straw it's less fucking plastic i'll i'll i'll suck the microplastics out of the plastic straw
02:29:22.260 i fucking hate those paper straws fuck so i i don't even usually use straws but when i do
02:29:31.120 need one for something i'm like i can't like these fucking paper straws it's so but the really
02:29:36.740 crazy part is about this shit is that the straws in particular not a lot of people know this do
02:29:41.460 you know what the root of that was like where that initially stemmed from of why we need to change it
02:29:46.340 it was from like some ninth graders you know environmental study from korea or something
02:29:52.740 like some like teenager wrote a paper and then it got like traction and then it kept getting pushed
02:29:57.700 and so like on the words of a 10 year old or you know 13 year old or some that's
02:30:02.900 why we the entire world has to use paper straws now and i think now that these paper straws the
02:30:10.740 glue in them and all this sort of stuff in them is is almost just as bad for the environment or
02:30:15.140 worse anyway so oh yeah it's whatever like they stopped using paper bags because they were cutting
02:30:22.500 down too many trees or something and then they went to plastic they stopped using plastic bags
02:30:25.860 because the environment like i guess they just changed like whatever suits their narrative at
02:30:31.140 at the time let's cut the trees down again
02:30:32.820 fucking hate those things
02:30:37.400 yeah
02:30:39.640 I used to use the plastic ones to pick up
02:30:43.520 my dog shit like
02:30:45.120 it was just useful or I
02:30:47.460 used them as garbage bags and now I have to buy
02:30:49.560 plastic garbage bags
02:30:50.900 like specifically for fucking dog shit
02:30:53.480 like what are you
02:30:53.960 anyways
02:30:56.040 it's all performative
02:30:59.040 it's like even shit like i don't know if you've ever seen this but like the if you do like an
02:31:03.720 actual uh resource uh consumption of the of a recycling program like i don't know the only
02:31:12.980 thing that it makes sense to recycle is like aluminum cans that's about it the the resources
02:31:18.920 that go into recycling plastic bottles and paper a lot of the time paper paper cardboard can be
02:31:24.240 makes sense but most paper and stuff like that yeah they use way more water energy uh uh like
02:31:31.760 carbon uh you know petroleum products etc to recycle the products than they would if they
02:31:36.480 just fucking burnt them and then made just burn them man just burning that's what the chinese
02:31:40.800 are doing massive incinerators they burned them they've got ones over there now massive incinerators
02:31:45.520 and they're they're sort of their garbage is producing energy so they're burning the garbage
02:31:51.840 create an energy and they're essentially going green that way and it's uh it's you should look
02:31:59.160 into it if you're if you're interested in that stuff it's actually it's actually a really good
02:32:02.240 solution i'm aware because like this is i don't what i was learning about this stuff in school
02:32:08.920 like these systems or whatever i'm like asking questions like is this actually like this doesn't
02:32:13.320 see like just my instinct tells me that this shit is not efficient you're telling me that this is a
02:32:18.980 more um environmental way to do these processes and i'm just like you need fucking trucks to go
02:32:26.420 pick up recycling you need like the like solar panels is a great one right the amount of petroleum
02:32:31.880 products and like coal coal is what is used to make fucking photovoltaic panels right like you're
02:32:37.940 digging up coal and instead of burning the coal to make energy you're using a whole bunch of more
02:32:42.460 energy so that you can produce a panel that's not even efficient to begin with solar panels are
02:32:47.520 great if you're in
02:32:48.620 a rural area where it
02:32:51.020 works for specific small purposes
02:32:53.480 but if you think that that's the solution
02:32:54.980 you're an idiot. You just haven't done the research
02:32:57.460 and looked at it like
02:32:58.480 do we really want fucking huge fields
02:33:01.160 of coal panels?
02:33:02.980 How much of the earth do you want to cover with these things?
02:33:05.720 It's insane.
02:33:07.480 Nuclear is the way forward isn't it?
02:33:09.440 I don't know if you agree with that but
02:33:11.280 I think nuclear is just
02:33:12.960 the cleanest, it's the safest
02:33:15.260 it's the way forward.
02:33:17.520 yeah so like this is like i mean we've got off on a huge tangent here a lot of people
02:33:21.240 know the shit but i mean the deeper thing behind it is like well why are we doing this and the
02:33:25.820 real malicious intention behind it is to de-industrialize western society it's to
02:33:32.460 destroy our capacity to produce to make us less efficient to make us waste money on technology
02:33:38.680 that we shouldn't be wasting the kind of money that we are on it um it gets a whole bunch of
02:33:43.120 grifters fucking rich on on this nonsense so like it's it's like energy so expensive that um
02:33:49.680 like we we really should be at a point in history where energy is virtually free you know for for
02:33:55.580 for average people it's virtually free but now we're at a point where uh your fuel costs are
02:34:00.900 through the roof your energy to heat your house is through the roof you can't do it it's just it's
02:34:06.060 insane it's insane how how how um how backwards all these different um plans and ideas are just
02:34:14.240 setting us backwards yeah they're intentionally terrible ideas it's always been about control
02:34:21.880 probably is that i think this is what i was talking about earlier it's like you know who
02:34:25.940 like obviously instinctively just says like this is stupid it's like the average working class guy
02:34:31.460 and they're like they just think like this like canada say right this electric truck is not going
02:34:37.400 to run when it's minus 30 out like like what do you want or like you know there's a huge like
02:34:43.140 ottawa has this huge issue with this light rail system where it basically doesn't operate four
02:34:48.560 months of the year because it's winter like this winter conditions it's not going to work and why
02:34:53.780 do they do this shit like so the the obvious you know answer to just somebody who's common sense
02:34:58.740 it's like this this is dumb and why are we doing this and then it's some you know academic type who
02:35:05.440 can twist and you know perform the mental gymnastics necessary to like be like oh no this
02:35:10.480 is important and this is the way it's like no you're you're a midwit we should listen to the
02:35:15.780 the fucking uh the roofer who's just like yeah that doesn't sound right that sounds fucking
02:35:21.520 yeah yeah so anyways uh the next super chat there is a great guest alex free joel davis
02:35:30.480 thanks a lot brian uh wow that hat is a choice not sure what kind but a choice hail victory with
02:35:38.360 the triple slash this is my my flat cap my scally cap and i got it in scotland and i wear it you
02:35:44.240 know around like when i'm into the saint patty's day mood i toss the scally cap on it's a nice hat
02:35:49.840 like what are you i'm bald man let me wear nice hats fuck off just kidding zaino thank you uh one
02:35:57.160 thing i forgot to mention there mad joyles gifted 20 subscriptions at the beginning of the stream
02:36:01.540 thank you very much for that uh base napoleon gifted five subscriptions and uh brian 7316
02:36:07.600 gifted five subscriptions as well thank you guys you're very supportive um uh lvsvs said hail the
02:36:15.580 commonwealth uh something with emojis um i can't see the emojis on rumble chat so sorry
02:36:23.420 uh blue often said today march the 14th we remember carl marx's greatest contribution to society his
02:36:29.980 death fuck commie scum white power i didn't know that march 14th was the uh anniversary of carl
02:36:35.540 marx's death so yeah uh spit in the chat you know to send your regards right before st paddy's day
02:36:42.820 yeah beauty that just makes it even better now i mean in more of a mood to uh enjoy tonight
02:36:51.100 um justice for fathers says dedicated for white not sure if that was correct um
02:36:58.220 but uh thank you justice for fathers and then he said uh brothers it's always these short little
02:37:04.700 uh ones with him and i think that we're caught up but um yeah we're caught up all right guys
02:37:18.860 i don't uh want to keep you forever and i've got uh some plans tonight so i was
02:37:24.300 if you have any uh other topics you want to dig into your last thoughts let her rip
02:37:31.660 i just want to thanks for having us on obviously um it's great
02:37:37.260 and to all the other active clubs and uh groups that are taking up the struggle appreciate
02:37:45.940 everything they do you guys don't know how much you inspired us you know like i said before
02:37:51.040 driving to the destroy pedophreaks rally listening to no face nate you know that whole
02:37:55.840 rise above movement and rob rundo even before i joined the nsn i was really inspired by rundo
02:38:01.620 And I was going to do my own active club
02:38:03.700 And that sort of thing
02:38:04.480 And
02:38:06.540 All the guys that are streaming and putting out content
02:38:09.900 You know, I listen to the Ferryman's Toll
02:38:11.800 At work all the time with my
02:38:13.180 EMAFs and listen to
02:38:15.220 Mark Collett, so I like listening to his show
02:38:17.960 I like Patriotic Alternative
02:38:19.900 Everything they're doing
02:38:20.720 I love Patriot Front, thank you guys
02:38:23.400 You guys are very inspiring
02:38:24.500 You guys
02:38:26.000 Really irked my competitive edge
02:38:29.360 When I was trying to lead my state
02:38:31.060 victoria i was watching your marches and your aesthetics and everything and just thinking how
02:38:36.500 we're going to match this every time there was a patriot front march it was like a personal uh
02:38:43.460 a personal uh goal to to try to one-up it and i don't know if we ever did uh let let you guys
02:38:51.940 decide but um yeah everything uh that the second sons have done you know i hope that we inspired
02:38:59.700 you guys you know and for all the guys that i mentioned and uh ones that i haven't the guys
02:39:05.560 that go super hard like blood tribe and hammer you know we need those guys like i think they're
02:39:10.600 probably one of the groups that were more extreme than we were um now that we're unbanded
02:39:16.760 um we'll step back from being the spearhead and it's time for you guys to become the spearhead
02:39:22.720 and destroy what's left we've we've we've opened the gash we've opened the wound it's bleeding
02:39:29.060 We're going to step back
02:39:30.720 And it's time for you guys to step up
02:39:32.500 And keep inspiring
02:39:33.420 And we'll do what we can do
02:39:35.300 As long as we can do it
02:39:37.120 And like I said
02:39:38.860 I appreciate you having us on
02:39:39.840 Thank you
02:39:41.600 I'll pass it over to Graham
02:39:42.820 Everything he just said
02:39:44.740 Yeah
02:39:44.960 Fucking
02:39:45.880 It's time for you guys now
02:39:47.380 To hold the line
02:39:48.280 Go out there
02:39:49.220 And destroy Petter Freaks
02:39:50.740 Yeah
02:39:52.020 We'll be back
02:39:53.520 I think you will be back
02:39:55.840 I believe that
02:39:58.880 we can edit that
02:40:00.440 it's not live
02:40:00.980 is it
02:40:01.420 yeah it's live
02:40:02.080 okay
02:40:02.380 yeah well
02:40:03.100 you know
02:40:03.720 until the next episode
02:40:05.880 I'm sure
02:40:06.820 is it time to say
02:40:07.660 that you'll come back
02:40:08.580 whenever legal conditions
02:40:09.900 allow you to come back
02:40:10.860 maybe it is
02:40:11.460 honestly I'm not sure
02:40:12.680 maybe
02:40:13.320 it could be
02:40:14.240 yeah
02:40:14.540 it might be
02:40:15.540 it might be
02:40:16.020 he was just quoting
02:40:16.940 Terminator
02:40:17.560 I'll be back
02:40:18.340 yeah exactly
02:40:19.360 yeah
02:40:19.880 I don't know
02:40:21.460 if it is or not
02:40:22.020 to be honest
02:40:22.420 but hey look
02:40:23.520 things change all the time
02:40:25.520 we've done our part
02:40:27.080 you guys are all
02:40:28.500 on your part now
02:40:29.180 so
02:40:29.500 those of you who can
02:40:31.460 keep doing it
02:40:32.220 we'll keep doing
02:40:33.880 what we can
02:40:34.280 as individuals
02:40:34.820 and
02:40:36.040 as things change
02:40:38.100 I don't know
02:40:38.540 watch this space
02:40:39.400 because
02:40:39.940 we ain't done
02:40:40.740 I ain't done
02:40:41.640 Tim ain't done
02:40:42.360 individually we ain't done
02:40:43.620 so
02:40:44.700 yeah
02:40:45.420 so
02:40:45.880 thanks for having us on
02:40:47.740 don't forget to follow
02:40:49.000 the Offaly on Rumble
02:40:49.960 and Telegram
02:40:50.980 yeah there's been a big break
02:40:52.240 now with
02:40:52.620 the last few months
02:40:53.540 have been pretty hectic
02:40:54.620 over here with everything
02:40:55.540 and
02:40:55.800 it's kind of like
02:40:56.740 what do you call it
02:40:58.640 when you do a pilot
02:40:59.920 we did a few pilot episodes to try it out
02:41:02.540 get the aesthetics right
02:41:04.040 we'll get something regular happening
02:41:05.720 get some really big guests on
02:41:07.020 now that we've moved we've got to reset up the studio
02:41:09.340 and probably rethink it a little bit
02:41:11.580 because originally we were trying to do it
02:41:14.320 where we have somebody sort of come in
02:41:16.080 and you're talking face to face
02:41:17.340 and all that sort of thing
02:41:18.060 but I mean that's difficult
02:41:19.860 Australia's a big place
02:41:21.980 so even just in Australia that's difficult
02:41:23.940 because there's people you want to talk to
02:41:26.320 who are in New South Wales, Queensland,
02:41:28.260 people in Western Australia
02:41:29.460 that you'd like to have on and talk to,
02:41:31.280 but it's hard to get, you know,
02:41:32.980 me and one of them in a room at the same time.
02:41:34.800 So maybe I'm going to have to take inspiration from you
02:41:37.600 and do something like this,
02:41:39.400 which I didn't want to do at the start,
02:41:42.820 but now I'm starting to think that
02:41:43.920 it will open up a bigger avenue of guests I can have on.
02:41:49.380 I'd love to have on people like Justin Barrett back in Ireland.
02:41:51.900 You know, I think that'd be a good stream.
02:41:53.500 Yeah, so once we get settled here,
02:41:56.120 we're going to get set up
02:41:57.040 with a new set up
02:41:58.560 and we'll start putting out
02:42:00.960 new episodes of The Offbeat.
02:42:03.520 Yeah, so stay tuned for that.
02:42:06.400 Yeah, so Lee in the chat there
02:42:09.220 just said the interview
02:42:11.020 that you did with Tom Sewell.
02:42:12.580 I think that was the best interview
02:42:14.080 with Tom I've ever seen.
02:42:16.000 Was it three parts or four parts?
02:42:18.200 Four parts.
02:42:18.820 Yeah, we're still getting
02:42:19.360 into four parts in the end.
02:42:21.140 I had trouble with that, man.
02:42:24.060 It would have been longer, man.
02:42:25.200 tech tech issues and stuff i'm only learning you know but uh my phone i thank god a lot of people
02:42:29.820 don't actually watch it they just listen because if you watch it it's it's constantly trying to
02:42:34.720 focus the video is yeah and uh like so it's focused like it's trying to auto focus i forgot
02:42:40.760 to lock the focus you got a lot i i do the i just record the video on my phone so you've got a lot
02:42:46.080 to lock the focus so it doesn't do that bloody all focus and on top of that because it went for
02:42:51.420 like six hours i was originally recording sound straight to the laptop through software and
02:42:56.680 software doesn't like interviews that go that long i think it would have gone longer though
02:43:00.560 yeah like basically minutes before the end of the interview the software shat itself i lost all the
02:43:07.080 audio and that morning i had just gone out and bought one of these it's a it's a task cam
02:43:12.040 field recorder and i just had it left on the table recording and thank god i kept the audio so
02:43:17.280 like tom probably would have strangled me if i had lost six hours but hey it worked out okay
02:43:23.400 it was pretty good um it was a good interview like yeah when i was listening to it myself
02:43:29.200 it sounded like a documentary and i was like i was thinking like especially if there's any
02:43:33.860 guys watching the produce uh content or videos or you know you're not really an irl guy but
02:43:39.840 you're good at editing or if you are an irl guy you're good at editing like that is a good
02:43:45.500 narration for a documentary so if someone wants to throw some videos of what he's talking about
02:43:49.960 and some pictures and that behind it like you could very easily turn that into a like a good
02:43:54.540 feature-length documentary of Thomas Sewell it was captivating but yeah I appreciate all the
02:44:00.020 all the everybody out there who watches and the and the support and the encouragement because
02:44:04.860 for you yourself like you say you don't you don't love being on camera I'm the same it's not
02:44:09.340 something I wanted to do really um although I had thought about for a long time but it's not
02:44:13.800 something that i'm very comfortable with um so it's good to get people encouraging it and enjoying
02:44:21.240 it and and and wanting more more of that kind of content so we definitely will will be trying to
02:44:29.000 put out more it takes it takes a while right to get used to it the being like that took me a long
02:44:34.600 time before i felt actually comfortable jumping on a stream and i still get that especially with
02:44:39.560 like a bigger guest or like you know somebody that i like i know more people are going to be
02:44:43.680 watching or it's going to be circulated more you get that kind of like it's almost like you know
02:44:47.880 free fight jitters type thing where it's like okay here we go it takes a while to like settle in
02:44:52.900 and yeah i mean i mean i think what i've noticed sometimes is that your brain your your brain
02:44:59.420 isn't always firing on all cylinders like you could be in the best of form all day long in
02:45:04.840 great form and then you're meeting to do this interview at 7 p.m after work after you've
02:45:09.300 driven an hour home and by the time you get home you're like tired you get tired and you know now
02:45:13.980 you gotta try and uh you know pick yourself back up to do this interview and stuff like that and
02:45:18.060 so sometimes your brain isn't finding its words you know what i mean you know it's it's it's a
02:45:23.580 tiring thing to do is i don't think a lot of people realize that when you sit you do this for
02:45:27.820 three hours like it's a a physically draining process a lot of times you're like you're tired
02:45:32.860 after yeah so yeah so i've noticed that like sometimes i i'm searching for my words and i
02:45:39.800 can't find you know constantly doing that yeah so the one thing i would say though as well to
02:45:46.340 regarding what you know tim said in his final message like yeah 100 100 percent um in regard
02:45:51.940 like how you were talking about patriot front and obviously you know we learned from them as well
02:45:57.680 and you know i've talked to russo and uh examined you know how they go about things as best i can
02:46:03.680 from just you know a distance and um you know took inspiration from them like you guys are
02:46:08.560 the ones that like man it was almost annoying it's like every every time it's like hey we're
02:46:14.800 starting to catch up to them and then it would be like august 8th and it's like oh god like what the
02:46:20.240 like we're getting ready to do so or you know august 31st was one of those ones where everything
02:46:24.800 have with you guys and then that was basically the same weekend that we had our first nationals
02:46:28.920 like your stuff was just everywhere it's just like oh we're never gonna fucking catch up to
02:46:33.360 these guys well your national was awesome as well like what good leadership needs good opposition
02:46:38.140 yeah exactly you know yeah and then we got we had a very very competitive leadership
02:46:44.460 you know we would see these things these big marches these big things
02:46:48.140 you know and and we'd get offended by other white nationalists be like fuck these guys what
02:46:52.880 you know who the fuck are they trying to outdo us you know this is not gonna this is not gonna
02:46:56.560 happen you have to be like that it's almost like a solo sport you know like team sports you get
02:47:02.160 you know like you have but like being in a white nationalist org you gotta like you know because
02:47:06.960 it's a nation like we're all white and we need white unity worldwide but we're not globalists
02:47:11.520 are we we're nationalists so we we want to be the number one nation you know so just because
02:47:16.960 Patriot Front
02:47:18.460 or Second Sons
02:47:21.040 or White National
02:47:21.600 Soganization
02:47:22.140 it doesn't mean
02:47:22.760 we're not going to
02:47:23.440 fucking beat you guys
02:47:24.360 in every way possible
02:47:25.440 you know
02:47:25.880 no offence
02:47:26.600 but yeah
02:47:27.160 that last year
02:47:29.280 for us was
02:47:30.040 was huge
02:47:30.620 and especially
02:47:31.560 basically that
02:47:33.060 August
02:47:33.720 and the few weeks
02:47:34.420 leading up to it
02:47:35.020 because
02:47:35.300 we all talk about
02:47:36.940 August 31st now
02:47:38.280 the March for Australia
02:47:39.460 which was
02:47:39.980 insane
02:47:41.140 but two weeks
02:47:42.140 that was actually
02:47:42.680 a huge risk for us
02:47:43.940 that was like
02:47:44.380 that was like
02:47:45.540 I compare
02:47:46.940 that to like a poker player who had just went all in one hand and doubled up or tripled up like had
02:47:52.900 two people going all in against them which was our um nationals event where we had that massive
02:47:59.740 nationals event where we rented the caravan park uh we'd done a huge march through melbourne music
02:48:06.200 festival music festival we had faxton we had fed people we had to transport huge event huge event
02:48:12.320 and we had so much content
02:48:13.660 coming from that event
02:48:14.620 and then
02:48:15.100 basically
02:48:16.200 as soon as that was over
02:48:17.560 it was this August 31st
02:48:18.820 was coming up
02:48:19.360 and I mean
02:48:20.220 to me
02:48:21.160 I compare it to
02:48:22.020 like I said
02:48:22.420 a poker player
02:48:23.320 who had gone all in
02:48:24.280 doubled up
02:48:25.200 and then
02:48:26.140 the very next hand
02:48:27.540 he gets pocket kings
02:48:28.600 and he's like
02:48:29.960 oh fuck
02:48:31.080 and he's got
02:48:31.920 he's almost got to go
02:48:33.020 all in again
02:48:33.720 and you could
02:48:34.780 your pocket kings
02:48:36.980 could lose to
02:48:37.620 three twos
02:48:38.660 you know what I mean
02:48:39.200 and
02:48:39.520 that's the context
02:48:40.380 that's missing
02:48:41.000 from us for sure
02:48:41.800 So we could, that March for Australia was a massive gamble in a way.
02:48:45.020 It was a huge, huge, huge gamble because that could have went completely wrong
02:48:48.700 and everything, yeah, it could have just, it could have went the other way,
02:48:52.960 but it didn't.
02:48:54.400 It compiled on top of what we had just achieved at Nationals
02:48:57.920 and it became just a massive year for us.
02:49:00.780 But that was the context that was missing from March for Australia
02:49:03.020 is that our guys, and you've got to imagine, you know,
02:49:05.240 Tom came to Graeme and myself and he said,
02:49:08.280 it's Vic's turn to do Winter Nationals.
02:49:10.280 obviously you need to set up power
02:49:12.400 what do you call it
02:49:14.380 powerlifting competition and all the equipment
02:49:16.640 and we never
02:49:18.860 really done, we never really
02:49:20.440 catered for everyone food wise
02:49:22.720 we never did accommodation
02:49:24.480 for the entire country, we never did any of this stuff
02:49:26.820 it was like, we're all like
02:49:28.820 feudal kings, Tom's the king of kings
02:49:30.600 and we're like feudal kings, I'm the Victorian king
02:49:32.900 we've got South Australia
02:49:33.860 and we all come together to meet
02:49:36.700 twice a year
02:49:38.180 we bring we bring our our kingdoms and and we compete you know and and but it's my responsibility
02:49:45.960 for victoria and jacks for new south wales and so on and so forth but this time tom's wanted to
02:49:52.640 he come to me and he said i want accommodation to me and graham i want accommodation for everyone
02:49:56.100 i want food for everyone for three days i want you know like we're going to do a march we're
02:50:00.780 going to do a power competition i want a music festival i want a seminar where the public's
02:50:04.980 invited we're going to need betting for the public you know so like we're um so the address is
02:50:10.020 everything is going to be known it's going to be known you know so all these things not getting
02:50:14.160 venues cancelled all that had to be taken into account and i you know graham and i automatically
02:50:18.860 just went into panic mode said we can't do this this is impossible he's a fucking idiot no way
02:50:23.240 you know and we do it every time me and him have a little cry together and we're like he's he's
02:50:28.500 insane this can't work you know i don't know we always pull it off we always put it off we always
02:50:33.440 complying and then pull it off i didn't relax until day three i reckon because i got the venue
02:50:39.280 this venue and and i didn't lie about who we were i just didn't tell the entire full truth you know
02:50:45.280 i i said we were a community we the men are into weightlifting and you have to say our tactics
02:50:50.240 exactly but yeah whatever it's so it's going now because i might want to use it yeah well we already
02:50:56.320 i do use it wait like we'll we approach venues frequently and just say we want to rent the venue
02:51:01.840 here's what we're gonna like we don't we're uh yeah sometimes you know i was honest yeah i was
02:51:06.960 honest for a bit until it doesn't yeah i was honest about it without without being explicitly
02:51:11.120 because who why like well the thing they don't have to say what their political what their
02:51:17.660 political belief system are when they're trying to book a venue so i didn't i want a venue i
02:51:21.240 support the labor party yeah they never say i have to say i'm a i'm a democrat and i want a venue
02:51:25.940 like they don't have to say that they just get whatever so i didn't reveal that i just got the
02:51:30.900 venue but then i was like i was like these people could rug pull us like on the night of then the
02:51:37.180 first night we could get rug pulled and i've got we've got 250 people from all over australia just
02:51:42.380 nowhere to sleep nowhere to go and public guys it was probably 300 there at one point but
02:51:46.640 well you know the context of it is is 24 hour security we need roman security we need we need
02:51:53.200 a um security on the gate you know we need rolling so someone's there the whole time
02:51:57.760 we need transport accommodate we need everything you know from the airport uh into the activism
02:52:03.440 you know we need to check like imagine checking 160 guys black block you know like making sure
02:52:09.680 marching we had to do internal seminars and ceremonies you know banding ceremonies and such
02:52:14.960 we had to do external stuff you know culturally you know yeah all this stuff over three days
02:52:20.320 there was no sleep there was no sleep like when you're when you're in charge of things you don't
02:52:24.680 eat you don't sleep you stop you might grab a piece of meat off the spit you know and you know
02:52:30.000 and that all ends and it's all over and it's monday and then you know tom comes to us again
02:52:37.200 and says we're doing a nationwide march with much for australia i need solid guys in every state
02:52:43.000 mask off people in every state speeches in every state you know which is you know some states have
02:52:47.360 less mask off guys and less heavies which is why we sent jimbo and hersan and graham and everyone
02:52:52.960 to different states because victoria has a lot of mask off people and um and it was like a week
02:52:58.480 later and you can imagine our guys you know exhausted some guys are less motivated than
02:53:03.600 others but the fact that we're that this was all within seven days of each other you know so like
02:53:08.900 we mobilized everyone and it was just a fight you know it was just little sleep you know organizing
02:53:15.160 speakers from australia i had to organize routes i had to organize liaisons and all this stuff that
02:53:20.760 you don't you know you just don't think you know so when you see these rallies happening when you
02:53:24.800 see patriot front mobilizing or patriotic alternatives doing seminars and hikes and
02:53:30.160 these these things don't just happen they don't just come together it's not like everyone rocks
02:53:34.380 up they've got all the stuff they need and now let's just walk through the city you know like
02:53:38.660 there's a lot of moving parts there's aesthetics flags banners you know everything to people that
02:53:45.780 so you you a simple thing like a banner drop on an overpass with 30 to 40 guys the amount of
02:53:54.520 planning that goes into that like for for a one hour thing or less that we're doing i plan like
02:54:00.980 at least there's 40 hours that i go that go into planning that like it's just the whole process of
02:54:07.100 like start to finish doing it without you know getting guys fucked in the process requires you
02:54:11.900 to think about so many different variables and and like not exposing not telling people more
02:54:17.580 than they need to know and making sure guys are where they're supposed to be when they're supposed
02:54:20.700 to be all these things it's not a fucking boomer freedom protest which is like everybody rock up
02:54:29.180 to the town square at around 11 you know where you flag like a cave exactly it's not the same
02:54:35.500 and they don't know you can't just ride in on your moose with your maple syrup and you know do a
02:54:40.640 canadian rally there you go yeah you take a lot of jobs you guys are doing i was like these like
02:54:51.380 we were talking about the competition i was like these motherfucking kangaroo fuckers they're just
02:54:56.240 like are we god damn it you might have been a little grizzly about it huh i was i think i
02:55:02.800 actually posted this at one point but i was like you know you've seen the movie troy i'm guessing
02:55:06.620 right yeah you just gotta like swing up swim upstream like that salmon yeah but you know the
02:55:12.200 you know the scene you know when they first arrive at like the beach of troy and achilles
02:55:16.600 his way out in front yeah and then like ajax is standing on his ship and he's like he's like
02:55:22.280 fucking just seething he's like look at him like like yeah like he's not mad at what he's doing
02:55:30.280 he's mad that he's not doing more than he you know what i mean yeah i know yeah he's like god
02:55:35.660 damn it so yeah that's how it felt like i just was like that's exactly what it god damn it
02:55:41.340 row you fuckers but that's good though that's good that's a really good uh that says a lot
02:55:49.080 about you you know yeah oh yeah it's just like it pisses me off that like canadians are so far
02:55:54.700 behind and then now we're catching up a bit but yeah you're top three like yeah like in the
02:56:01.060 anglosphere like you know it's only probably america at the moment you know like australia
02:56:06.820 is now uh a little bit stationary but yeah no guys in canada are very inspiring well that's uh
02:56:15.620 largely on uh i mean it was tom it was tom more than anyone who i learned like he explained
02:56:23.300 look the active club obviously it's like it's good i understand like yeah this would be sweet
02:56:28.020 if you have like-minded guys to you know punch on with lift weights whatever go for rocks like that's
02:56:33.060 yeah that's fun but like tom really had like the vision behind beyond that of like how do you
02:56:38.500 translate this into a bigger and more sophisticated thing that you know and then true he's a dreamer
02:56:45.380 he's a he's a dreamer and like he was organizing regions and regional leaders when there was like
02:56:51.460 20 of us you know like yeah like 30 30 in the chat and he's organizing regional leaders
02:56:56.700 and it's like you have to have the vision you have to have the belief and you're like this
02:57:00.520 is a bit laughing you have to have the drive now there's 30 guys in the west only west melbourne
02:57:04.980 and there's 30 in west vic and there's you know what i mean like and then you have to inspire
02:57:08.920 other people to be to be able to see your vision as well and believe in it well but that's they
02:57:13.780 were that's what made them terrible it was yeah it sounds like 30 guys in one region 30 40 guys
02:57:19.580 in another region like is that really a lot it's like i don't think people realize how quickly
02:57:23.440 that becomes critical mass and then it's just boom boom boom boom boom like and that's what
02:57:28.380 the political party scared the shit out of them because there is legitimate desire for somebody
02:57:33.680 to represent those views and you know fight like that and so there was the base of support that if
02:57:40.060 that goes much further like that can you know a political party can go we're seeing it right now
02:57:45.420 with restore and regardless of what you think about rup i i like rupert lowe for the most part
02:57:50.540 i think it's you know the jury's still out but you've seen how it's gone from nothing to one of
02:57:55.980 like they're approaching to conserve the tories right now in terms of membership or they might
02:57:59.800 have passed them as a political party in the uk like that like you guys are talking about like
02:58:05.180 it wouldn't take much for you to surpass the liberals right there they see this thing out of
02:58:10.620 them well one nation are surpassing them so yeah exactly have surpassed them like and and i think
02:58:17.580 that nobody would argue that they're not growing because they're getting a lot of divorce that we
02:58:23.940 would have got yeah you know exactly yeah so um put too much faith or follow that too closely but
02:58:30.940 as long as that low guy doesn't start softening his stance and conceding he holds his ground where
02:58:38.520 is now it's fine but problem with these people is they say these things and as time goes by they
02:58:44.300 slowly soften them and three years from now he'll just be nigel farage again like i've seen it over
02:58:49.420 and over again i i 100 i think that there's one real test there's one real and this is why i say
02:58:56.380 the jury's still out on him because yeah he is saying the right things but the problem is he's
02:59:01.080 saying all the things that steve laws mark call it you know like whoever like all of the other
02:59:06.940 people who have been fighting this for deck like the uk has a long history of nationalist you know
02:59:12.600 movements rising and falling and you know to different levels and the test is i i know that
02:59:19.220 rupert lowe is at least you know on some level is speaking with some of these guys like they
02:59:26.820 are people in his sphere like they are positive that they are like their messaging is synchronized
02:59:32.320 you can see that that's not fucking good enough publicly shake steve law's hand publicly and say
02:59:38.320 you're going to run him as an mp for you know kent or whatever dover shake mark collett's hand
02:59:44.600 publicly and say you're going to run him as a candidate and when the fucking mob comes to try
02:59:49.080 to you know uh shame you into disavowing and cucking and you know doing all the stuff that
02:59:56.080 the other ones do you say go fuck yourself these guys were right the whole time i'm not going to
03:00:00.720 pull them out because hope not hate doesn't like them or or the communists don't like them or the
03:00:07.160 brown people that shouldn't be here don't like them fuck you like they deserve it's contrarian
03:00:12.360 or the the to play devil's advocate like fuentes take would be that it's it could be too soon to
03:00:18.540 publicly shake their hands and say that i think right or right now if he wants to continue to
03:00:23.180 grow and stuff at least don't counter signal them yeah well he's you know support when they are
03:00:30.900 attacked unfairly you know i was listening this week to call it stream with um sam malia or malia
03:00:37.140 whatever it is um and that that was uh very inspirational um and if he's listening uh hello
03:00:44.020 sam malia but uh he went to jail for putting up white live matter stickers and he was one year in
03:00:50.460 jail i believe in one year on house arrest which is probably just as bad as jail from for where he
03:00:54.480 had to stay while i was on house arrest but um yeah you know support people like that or brand
03:01:01.740 brandon koshul or whoever wherever you are when that when wrong things are done call them out it
03:01:07.680 doesn't matter if you subscribe to their beliefs you know when something like that happens it's
03:01:11.880 like no you shouldn't go to jail for saying white live matter to prison you know for saying white
03:01:17.060 live matter or anything like that that's not illegal to say that shouldn't be illegal to say
03:01:21.560 and um yeah i guess that's what people would say maybe don't like it's too early for him like to
03:01:29.560 reveal his power level but don't don't counter signal at the very least that's what you that's
03:01:34.740 what you want to see now i have a very simple metric by which i will ever support a political
03:01:41.720 party again and it's do they support if they don't support us first off like if you won't come out
03:01:48.040 and defend like as a political party if you don't you know initiate that kind of thing like yeah
03:01:53.480 we're on board with these guys then you because we've been through it like we we have already
03:01:59.000 they're already compromising too much at that point aren't they sorry they're already compromising
03:02:04.280 from from day one they're compromising by not supporting us even though they have the same
03:02:08.200 If they're countersignaling us now, it's like Tim says, in three years' time,
03:02:13.100 they're going to be just another Nigel Farage, just another Arlene Hansen.
03:02:17.000 They're already compromising.
03:02:18.780 Because there is no reason to countersignal.
03:02:20.780 There's never a reason to countersignal.
03:02:22.860 The left don't do it like you said.
03:02:25.160 There's no reason for Rowe to go after Collet or Sam Alia
03:02:29.440 or any white vanguard, whatever groups that they have in England.
03:02:33.980 um uh but there there is a reason to raise awareness when it should be a rise
03:02:40.340 this should be right sorry i i agree them the very least they can do is not attack us and
03:02:47.700 denounce us and try to like you know do that game we're like oh i'm not like those guys
03:02:53.300 because that's pathetic but it goes further which is like you fuckers can't win without us
03:03:01.720 we don't fucking need you you need us so stop acting like yeah yeah exactly you're in here with
03:03:10.780 us we're not in here like what like so the political like we've gone through this with
03:03:17.420 the political party in canada and it's like you were getting more for us than we ever got from
03:03:21.860 you and we're bigger than you are now frankly like you yeah it's your supporters coming over to us
03:03:28.000 it's like why the why were we your servants why did you get to use us for publicity and to bring
03:03:34.140 in members and do all this stuff and then when we were no longer convenient or like it became
03:03:38.240 difficult then it was like you know yeah i don't want yeah maybe stay away from us like fuck you
03:03:44.960 um never again i'll never do like ultimately if we are ours we're inevitable at this point it's
03:03:54.000 just uh how long is it going to take to have somebody that is going to be explicitly in our
03:04:01.360 in our corner you know what i mean and and like you say shaking hands publicly with like say
03:04:06.020 collette or whatever it could be now it could be a year or two from now it could be five years from
03:04:10.760 now but it's it's inevitable i think we are inevitable history is cyclical and um it's uh
03:04:18.940 coming to the nationalist cycle now, I think.
03:04:22.260 Absolutely.
03:04:23.620 All right.
03:04:24.000 There's one more that came in there.
03:04:25.560 It was Justice for Fathers,
03:04:26.540 and he said, this stream is so white.
03:04:28.440 Yeah, it's pretty white.
03:04:29.780 It's northern and southern hemisphere white.
03:04:32.240 It's eastern and western hemisphere white.
03:04:34.560 So it's pretty white.
03:04:36.560 But I got to wrap it up, guys.
03:04:39.920 He's Celtic, though.
03:04:42.020 Sorry?
03:04:42.880 He's Celtic?
03:04:44.040 He's Celtic, yeah.
03:04:45.600 I'm like a core Celtic.
03:04:47.600 Well, you can barely understand it.
03:04:48.940 but I think there's probably closed captions on Rumble, isn't there?
03:04:55.040 I mean...
03:04:56.580 He thinks I need closed captions.
03:04:59.200 People understand me just like, sometimes they're everywhere.
03:05:02.720 I mean...
03:05:03.720 That's the problem with...
03:05:04.600 That was the problem with NSN was it was like full of immigrants
03:05:07.480 and the only mass deportations that actually happened
03:05:09.760 were actually against them.
03:05:12.340 You know, like their leader was the Kiwi.
03:05:14.380 i think gosh that's gonna get clipped now and spread around probably i might clip it
03:05:23.440 all right guys thanks so much for coming on with me that was a lot of fun
03:05:28.960 and uh i think we got into some good topics but uh the dog is getting restless and uh i got
03:05:35.660 yeah free joel davis free brandon koshul absolutely free jimbo
03:05:40.320 uh anyone else no i live more there'll be more next year a little more locked up i mean we can
03:05:47.600 run through all 27 different guys who have ongoing cases if you want to you got a list
03:05:53.240 yeah no i support those guys appreciate it i know seriously i'm joking but it's like it's true it's
03:06:00.860 like there's a lot of guys who need the support and yeah more than others and you know they they
03:06:06.900 paid a price so yeah um whatever happens yeah if you're if you're not in australia like join a
03:06:16.820 group or even if you're in australia there's groups you can join but how if you're a canadian
03:06:21.140 you're watching the stream and you're not in a group like like uh second sons and what are you
03:06:26.260 even doing in life like damn right it's now illegal to be a group in a national social
03:06:32.260 as the white nationals group here pretty much.
03:06:34.900 So it's like, if you've got the opportunity
03:06:36.260 to do it, especially in America, you've got that
03:06:38.020 First Amendment, like
03:06:39.920 get active.
03:06:42.500 Alright, I'll
03:06:43.580 play it out on one more song
03:06:46.020 or whatever and then shut down the stream, but
03:06:47.640 hope you guys have a good Sunday and
03:06:50.080 you know, I
03:06:51.940 know you'll find ways to keep being effective.
03:06:54.620 You guys are smart guys.
03:06:55.920 We will. Watch this space.
03:06:57.920 And shout out Matt Gruda too. Thanks for having
03:07:00.180 us, man. Cheers.
03:07:02.260 all right i'll uh fire up one more song big thanks to those guys that was a lot of fun uh
03:07:09.000 kind of a different you know interview thing than we normally do that was more like
03:07:12.420 casual and just shooting the shit so um yeah uh enjoy the rest of your saturday night guys um
03:07:20.140 i don't know if i'll be on tomorrow with derek but uh plat army tomorrow night
03:07:24.400 and uh yeah big stuff uh in the works so have a good night everybody
03:07:32.260 Oh, Father, why are you so sad on this bright Easter morn?
03:07:53.720 An Irish man, a proud and glad of the land where they were born.
03:08:01.000 A son I see in memory view a far off distant day
03:08:09.480 When being just a boy like you had joined the IRA
03:08:16.060 Where are the lads who stood with me when history was made?
03:08:25.220 A Cramacree I long to see
03:08:29.140 The boys of your brigade
03:08:33.060 Hills and farms, a call to arms
03:08:38.980 Was heard by one and all
03:08:42.580 From the glen came brave young men
03:08:46.860 To answer Ireland's call
03:08:50.000 Wasn't long ago we faced the foe
03:08:55.140 The Old Brigade and me
03:08:58.440 By my side they fought and they died
03:09:02.600 That Ireland might be free
03:09:05.940 Where are the lads who stood with me
03:09:10.560 When history was made
03:09:14.380 Of Ramakree I longed to see
03:09:18.300 The boys on the Old Brigade
03:09:22.140 And now my boy, I'm slowly white
03:09:28.000 On Easter morn I sigh
03:09:31.740 I recall my comrades all
03:09:36.060 From dark old days gone by
03:09:39.400 I think of men
03:09:42.020 Bawning lands with rifle and grenade
03:09:47.640 May heaven keep the men who sleep
03:09:51.660 From the ranks of the Old Brigade
03:09:55.540 Where are the lands who stood with me
03:09:59.760 When history was made
03:10:03.600 On Kramakri I longed to see
03:10:07.440 The boys of the Old Brigade
03:10:11.400 Where are the lands who stood with me
03:10:15.460 When history was made
03:10:19.360 For Kramakri I long to see the boys of your brigade
03:10:26.060 Kramakri I long to see the boys of your brigade
03:10:49.360 You