The Ferryman's Toll - The Daily Toll with Joel Davis - 02-08-25

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00:08:49.000 What's going on, everybody?

00:09:07.340 A little bit late on a Saturday.

00:09:11.320 It's going to be a good one.

00:09:13.500 It is Saturday, August 2nd, August 3rd, I suppose,

00:09:18.120 if you're in Australia.

00:09:20.140 Joel's going to be along shortly.

00:09:22.040 I figured I would fire up the stream and let it fill up before he gets here.

00:09:26.380 We're going to have some fun.

00:09:28.420 Lots to talk about, actually.

00:09:32.040 I've been at war with, I don't know why, with Drew Pavlou.

00:09:34.800 I can't even remember how, with Drew Pavlou.

00:09:37.620 That's been fun.

00:09:38.940 He's been crashing out on his timeline.

00:09:41.260 And obviously, Joel has been having some fun over the past week or so

00:09:45.780 with our very beloved media outlet here in Canada, Rebel News.

00:09:54.040 So it should be fun to talk about that.

00:09:56.620 They've also got their nationals coming up soon.

00:09:59.560 And they recently did a whole bunch of regional events.

00:10:02.720 So I'm sure Joel's going to fill us in on some of that.

00:10:05.840 Before we get into that, what's going on in the chat, guys?

00:10:08.040 I hope you all had a great week.

00:10:17.260 Liquid Zeus's Drew's got a head on him like a brown Mr. Mackey. 0.99

00:10:21.020 I mean, yeah.

00:10:24.320 He's such a perfect punching bag for the right. 1.00

00:10:29.180 It's so fun to just fuck with him. 1.00

00:10:31.360 But yeah, I kind of – it's one of those ones where I almost kind of like him 1.00

00:10:37.320 because he's so hateable.

00:10:40.960 Does that make sense?

00:10:44.000 Swindon's in the chat there. 1.00

00:10:46.140 But yeah, he does have a very punchable fucking head. 0.99

00:10:50.800 Sleepy88 says you don't look like a hobbit at all. 1.00

00:10:52.580 That was such a weird insult.

00:10:55.140 I look like a hobbit.

00:10:56.360 Like what?

00:10:56.740 I'm like 6'5".

00:10:58.400 I'm 6'5", 270. 1.00

00:11:00.700 Like I would fucking – I could drop my nuts on Drew's forehead. 0.99

00:11:04.060 Like calling me a hobbit is such a weird insult, but whatever. 0.99

00:11:14.780 Curtis says, why does he want to be white so badly?

00:11:18.240 I mean, I don't know.

00:11:19.260 I think it's – I mean, I suppose it's debatable.

00:11:22.760 But I don't know.

00:11:24.420 I think it's hilarious that – I mean, the whole thing started with Drew

00:11:27.300 because he was mad that Steve Laws said that Rishi Sunak isn't English.

00:11:38.800 And so you have a Turkish mongrel LARPing as a Greek, LARPing as an Australian, 1.00

00:11:49.420 lecturing an Englishman about how English an Indian is.

00:11:54.780 Just a very interesting – I mean, I guess that's where we're at in 2025.

00:12:00.740 You know, whatever you believe about yourself, I suppose that's what you are.

00:12:05.540 Swindon and Mikkel are already arguing in the chat.

00:12:08.420 Swindon and Mikkel are already arguing in the chat.

00:12:21.420 Olivia 200,000 says, Rishi Sunak is a bad example to use for assimilation. 0.98

00:12:28.560 He's a grifter.

00:12:29.300 Ben Habib would have been a better example.

00:12:31.480 I mean, I don't know that much about Rishi Sunak, but, like, I mean, he's a –

00:12:39.980 isn't he a practicing Hindu?

00:12:43.360 Like, yeah, he's clearly – just because he sounds – like, obviously, he has, like,

00:12:47.640 a posh kind of British accent.

00:12:50.520 But, like, so what?

00:12:53.260 Jared Taylor speaks Japanese fluently.

00:12:55.760 Like, so?

00:12:58.100 Congratulations.

00:12:58.980 You were born somewhere and you can speak the language fluently.

00:13:02.260 Does that make you that thing?

00:13:03.740 I don't think so.

00:13:06.500 But whatever. 0.99

00:13:09.060 And then you have the new – what's her fucking name? 1.00

00:13:13.000 The new leader of the Tories in England. 0.99

00:13:15.740 Katty Bagdenok? 1.00

00:13:19.700 I don't know. 1.00

00:13:20.440 The Nigerian bitch. 1.00

00:13:23.020 She said today or yesterday that she no longer identifies as Nigerian. 1.00

00:13:28.700 And she only identifies as British, I guess.

00:13:32.700 What?

00:13:35.020 I guess you could just swap your nationality like you can swap your gender in 2025. 0.99

00:13:43.320 COVID-1984 Lepre says she's not Nigerian.

00:13:47.380 Isn't she literally Nigerian? 1.00

00:13:50.120 That's what I heard.

00:13:51.980 All right.

00:13:54.200 Drawforks, does he mean that Hamza McYusuf isn't really Scottish?

00:13:57.300 Yeah, exactly, right?

00:14:00.760 I mean, as silly as it is, it actually is fairly important to be firm on this.

00:14:08.200 We've been through it many times.

00:14:09.580 But, like, there's a reason why they do – they'll simultaneously tell you that your identity doesn't exist, and then they'll claim it as their own.

00:14:16.140 It's one of the most absurd forms of gaslighting and manipulation that, you know, I've ever come across.

00:14:24.020 COVID-1984 says she's Nigerian.

00:14:29.080 That's good stuff.

00:14:29.980 White Australia first says I'm more Nigerian than her.

00:14:37.640 Yeah, that really – sorry, I didn't even get into – that really pissed off Drew when I was, like, I'm more Australian than you, despite never setting foot on that continent.

00:14:47.300 Which, like, obviously – obviously, I'm not Australian, but it really bugged him, you could tell.

00:14:54.560 Because it's true.

00:14:55.660 If – like, if you held up my picture or, you know, if you showed me to someone and you showed Drew to someone and you were like, which one is Australian and which one is Turk?

00:15:06.520 Like, what would people say?

00:15:11.800 It's pretty obvious.

00:15:13.000 And he knows that.

00:15:13.920 That's why it bugs him so much, because he knows that no matter what he says, no matter what he does, he will never be perceived as Australian.

00:15:23.940 No matter how long he's there, no matter how long – like, it doesn't matter what he does.

00:15:28.260 He will never be perceived as Australian.

00:15:30.520 And that's because he's not.

00:15:31.980 Curtis says, the pick he used of you, though, Oz would be one of the first Nat.

00:15:51.420 I would have guessed if I didn't – oh, one of the first nationalities I would have guessed if I didn't know who you were.

00:15:58.040 Or, yeah, it was an odd picture for him to choose as well, because I have, like – I don't know.

00:16:02.260 I have, like – I was, like, in the middle of summer, so I was, like, fairly tan relative to what I normally am. 0.96

00:16:10.300 And I had my stupid COVID mohawk. 0.94

00:16:14.440 So, like, not to pick on Australians, but for whatever reasons, you guys seem to like your eccentric haircuts, your wild undercuts and your mullets and stuff like that. 0.99

00:16:26.140 So, yeah, like, in that – like, it's particularly, like, I don't know, kind of stereotypically, you know, Aussie-looking.

00:16:32.740 So, yeah, it was a weird photo for him to choose.

00:16:35.620 But it's probably the first one that came up when he searched the ferryman's toll, because that was the photo they used for my first anti-hate hit piece, which – it still goes so hard. 0.89

00:16:48.420 Well, the headline on that article was something like, Holocaust denier travels the country organizing far-right militia, which is fucking funny. 0.97

00:17:00.620 Jane Doe Australia says, the mullet is gross. 0.98

00:17:09.580 I wish I could grow a mullet. 1.00

00:17:14.540 I wish I still had fucking proper hair and I could grow a dirty old mullet. 0.98

00:17:19.820 But, honestly, with all the talk of Hulk Hogan, you know, being that he passed and, you know, Florida just is now going to have Hulk Hogan Day, I guess it's August 1st, I was like, should I grow a skullet? 0.99

00:17:40.280 Like, should I just genuinely – should I grow a fucking skullet? 0.97

00:17:42.660 Like, I'm tempted. 0.99

00:17:50.760 Jane Doe says, no. 1.00

00:18:00.220 Sleepy idiot says, mullet is classic NS, man. 1.00

00:18:03.620 Nationalism in the front and socialism in the back. 1.00

00:18:08.320 This is pretty good.

00:18:09.300 Um, sorry.

00:18:14.140 Uh, Justice for Fathers, uh, just before I let these pile up, um, Canadian Chan, uh, his monthly supporter, thanks very much.

00:18:23.060 Um, where was it? 1.00

00:18:26.080 Uh, Justice for Fathers says, fuck you, Phil. 1.00

00:18:29.800 I don't know if that's in reference to somebody or, like, Philip the Goat, I'm not sure. 1.00

00:18:35.920 And, uh, Brian7316, his support for the Suns, Alex.

00:18:39.260 Always appreciate that, man.

00:18:40.620 It really is helpful.

00:18:41.700 It just – it covers, like, my gas and stuff like that for driving around and doing interviews and stuff like that.

00:18:46.960 So, appreciate that.

00:18:49.080 Um.

00:18:56.820 And you guys seem to really like the idea of the skullet.

00:19:01.700 Maybe I should go for it.

00:19:02.960 All right.

00:19:11.140 All right.

00:19:11.660 Um.

00:19:11.800 Uh, Big J Michigan says, Drew is crashing out to get clicks and hopefully generate revenue before he has to serve his month in jail for insulting China.

00:19:35.660 Yeah, I don't know that much about that.

00:19:38.280 But, um.

00:19:39.160 Yeah, apparently Drew is looking at time for anti-Chinese hate or something.

00:19:47.760 I don't know.

00:19:49.080 Um.

00:19:52.060 What was funnier is that he kind of just casually admitted that he got wrecked by, uh, by Joel in their debate.

00:19:58.820 I'll pull that up.

00:19:59.620 One sec.

00:20:06.540 One sec.

00:20:23.180 So, yeah.

00:20:23.920 Apparently – I don't know.

00:20:24.700 Apparently Drew wants to, uh, debate me or something.

00:20:27.020 But, uh, never mind.

00:20:28.000 Joel's here.

00:20:28.620 We'll just get into it.

00:20:30.500 Um.

00:20:31.660 D Connux says, I didn't see that debate.

00:20:33.180 Yeah, go check it out.

00:20:34.220 Um.

00:20:34.540 It's probably still up.

00:20:35.440 You can probably still find it for Elijah Shae – on, uh, Elijah Shaefer's platform.

00:20:40.580 How you going, man?

00:20:43.320 Yo, what's good?

00:20:45.780 Not too much.

00:20:46.620 I was just, uh, letting the chat fill up here as we waited for you and talking with them.

00:20:51.020 Um.

00:20:51.660 Talking about Pulu and what you've been up to in Australia recently.

00:20:55.900 So.

00:20:56.460 It's been a while, though.

00:20:57.120 Oh, yeah.

00:20:57.500 I saw you – I saw you, uh, getting into it with Drew Pavlou on Twitter yesterday.

00:21:01.780 It was kind of funny.

00:21:02.840 He's such a fun punching bag.

00:21:05.560 I was saying I –

00:21:06.460 Yeah.

00:21:06.620 I almost kind of –

00:21:07.180 I almost kind of like him a little bit because it's, like –

00:21:09.860 it's almost, like, endearing. 0.99

00:21:11.280 Like, he's so much fun to hate and, like, fuck with that you just kind of like that. 0.99

00:21:15.360 I don't hate him at all. 1.00

00:21:16.540 I find – I just like him.

00:21:18.120 I just think he's funny.

00:21:19.800 Yeah.

00:21:20.520 That's what I mean. 0.96

00:21:21.240 Like, obviously, like, I disagree with his positions and there's something deeply pathetic 0.96

00:21:25.100 about him as an individual on, like, multiple levels. 0.91

00:21:28.360 But I still find it funny.

00:21:30.600 Like, it's just –

00:21:31.440 Yeah.

00:21:31.660 Like, he's fun to talk to.

00:21:33.740 He's fun to interact with.

00:21:35.480 So, yeah.

00:21:37.360 I think that kind of came –

00:21:38.600 that's the reason why the debate that we had last year was so good

00:21:42.480 and why it resonated so much because of that, like, that personality foil, you know?

00:21:48.600 Yeah.

00:21:49.700 He's a good heel. 0.54

00:21:51.800 Yeah.

00:21:55.440 But you've been busy.

00:21:57.920 You guys have been busy in general.

00:21:59.360 You've got your nationals coming up.

00:22:01.680 You had all these regional events recently.

00:22:05.060 How's that going?

00:22:05.760 Yeah, so we're starting – in the major cities, we're starting to do what we call seminars

00:22:11.700 where, you know, basically we do, like, speeches and, you know, dinner and that kind of thing,

00:22:20.040 a few beers.

00:22:21.700 And we've been doing it with our internal membership.

00:22:24.640 And then we're starting to – because we've built up this supporter class of people who aren't, like,

00:22:31.360 members of, like, the activist wing of the organization, but they're nevertheless supportive

00:22:36.740 and they want to put their name down for the political party, a way to, like, vet them

00:22:42.100 and start bringing them along to events so that we can put on, you know, basically political events

00:22:48.060 regularly in the major cities around the country and, you know, grow them through time to the point

00:22:54.260 where we can mog the major parties by putting on speaking events that have more people at them

00:23:00.820 than the Liberal Party when they do it, that have better speeches, more intelligent speeches,

00:23:05.140 more dynamic speeches.

00:23:06.060 And, you know, also help to kind of cultivate the community, give people a way to come down

00:23:12.560 and shake hands and say hi to the people running the show, build those kinds of relationships,

00:23:17.940 which if you're going to do a political party, you need that kind of thing.

00:23:20.520 So, yeah, it's just, like, the very early phase of that, but they've been successful as, like,

00:23:28.060 early rollouts, so those will keep developing.

00:23:31.000 And then, yeah, obviously, on top of that, we've got the national conference.

00:23:36.380 Next weekend in Melbourne, we'll be a conference.

00:23:40.400 There's going to be a powerlifting competition.

00:23:44.040 We're going to put on, like, a festival of sorts.

00:23:46.700 You know, we're going to have lots of music.

00:23:47.880 We're going to have a Nazi rave going on Saturday night.

00:23:53.120 I'm working on getting projector set up so that we can project, like, spinning Sonnenrads

00:23:57.620 onto the walls around the DJ decks.

00:24:00.820 And we've got, like, a light show and, like, you know, it's, you know,

00:24:04.380 we're going to have the DJs in full black block, like, sending it.

00:24:07.780 It's going to be pretty cool.

00:24:09.160 It'll be the biggest event we've ever done, so.

00:24:12.360 That's awesome.

00:24:12.980 Like, what are you thinking in terms of attendance?

00:24:15.580 Or can you say?

00:24:16.380 We're expecting, if you add everyone up, including all the women, probably around 300 people.

00:24:27.640 That's really good, man.

00:24:30.120 That's really good.

00:24:30.980 Yeah.

00:24:31.460 Well, and obviously, like, we have opened it up to people who are supporters if they want

00:24:35.300 to get vetted to come along.

00:24:37.120 But I think a lot of people are afraid because, you know, they've seen what's happened to us

00:24:44.100 in the past.

00:24:44.800 So, but yeah, it's on, like, a private location, et cetera.

00:24:51.640 If people are listening to this who are Australian and you're in Melbourne next weekend, you want 1.00

00:24:55.700 to come to the conference or you want to come to Melbourne and come to the conference, you

00:24:58.480 know, reach out and get vetted, there is a way to get vetted so that you can attend.

00:25:01.880 And obviously, we're very security conscious, but if you're an authentic person, there's

00:25:06.500 a way for us to vet you so you can come along if you'd like to come along.

00:25:12.160 Yeah, this is something we had to deal with.

00:25:15.380 Like, I'm curious as to, I mean, obviously, we can't get into it, but being able to do

00:25:20.440 these things, these large events that you have people that you have to communicate solely

00:25:27.080 with online in order to give them the information that they need to attend creates this issue

00:25:32.920 of, like, how do you protect your location?

00:25:34.960 Because if it's only a matter of buying a ticket and then you get issued the location, then

00:25:40.140 it's very easy for somebody to just take, buy a ticket and then take that information and

00:25:48.380 post it publicly whenever it's finally released.

00:25:50.160 And this is something we dealt with last year during our tour, where the locations would

00:25:55.960 always get doxxed, you know, like the day before or a few hours before.

00:26:00.760 But yeah, it's one of the issues of trying to deal with it, deal with this.

00:26:05.740 It's something that everybody's dealing with, too.

00:26:07.540 I know they dealt with this in that remigration conference they did in Milan, you know, Driz and

00:26:15.460 Martin Sellner and them, they had to deal with this one second.

00:26:20.160 Sorry, my dog wants water.

00:26:26.120 It's my fault.

00:26:26.760 I should have given it to you before.

00:26:29.320 Well, I guess we're riding solo now with Joel Davis live here on the Daily Toll.

00:26:35.280 And it's going to be a great discussion this evening.

00:26:40.920 We're going to get through a lot of subjects.

00:26:42.940 I mean, we're talking about the kind of the boring stuff.

00:26:46.360 You know, what I really want to get into tonight is the goonpocalypse, the sex scandals, the 1.00

00:26:54.520 out of control gooning, taking out the dissident right.

00:26:59.180 Or is it?

00:26:59.980 Seems like the right is becoming increasingly impervious to sex scandals.

00:27:04.740 I'm going to be getting into the big issues tonight.

00:27:06.260 Anyway, you're back.

00:27:06.860 So I was just like taking the reins a little early.

00:27:09.780 I was gone for 20 seconds and I came back to sex scandals.

00:27:14.000 Well, we could talk about like nationals and stuff, but then we've got to talk about like

00:27:18.520 the goon right ascending.

00:27:19.940 It seems like it seems like every week there's another patriot sex scandal.

00:27:25.720 Uh, and increasingly no one cares.

00:27:28.520 Everyone's like, yeah, like whatever. 1.00

00:27:30.740 Let, like, let the man fuck who cares. 1.00

00:27:32.620 And it seems to be like a new development on the right because the right traditionally 1.00

00:27:37.120 is very like, you know, prudish and, um, sexually conservative and, uh, you know, moralizing

00:27:45.020 and, you know, would kind of cancel each other for all these, uh, you know, moral failings all

00:27:50.060 the time and constantly be like, you know, finger waving, you know, in this kind of prosecutorial

00:27:55.240 way towards one another. 1.00

00:27:56.780 Now it seems like people are like, honestly, as long as you're fucking racist, I don't fuck 1.00

00:28:00.040 and you're not doing anything crazy or gay or something. 1.00

00:28:02.260 I don't really fucking care. 0.98

00:28:03.220 Like, you know what I mean? 0.98

00:28:04.420 Well, I assume you're, you're talking about the Arvel.

00:28:08.460 Well, that's, that's, that's a high profile instance, but it's, there's been a lot of these

00:28:12.080 things over the last six months.

00:28:14.420 I'm not going to go through and list them all, but, um.

00:28:17.960 Um, and yeah, like I've met Arvel, by the way, I was, when I was in America about six

00:28:24.640 years ago, I went to his house.

00:28:26.860 So I've known him for a very long time.

00:28:28.340 Yeah.

00:28:28.480 I've known Arvel for a very long time.

00:28:29.620 Maybe seven years we've been friends.

00:28:32.320 There's been times where we had, you know, disputes and fell out and arguments, whatever,

00:28:35.600 but we've known each other for a long time.

00:28:38.580 And, um, you know, when I saw this news break, I thought, oh man, like everyone's going to

00:28:47.320 like savage him over this and, you know, all this work that he's put in recently, it's

00:28:51.200 going to blow up. 0.87

00:28:51.900 And that's really sad, but no, I was actually very pleasantly surprised that the movement 1.00

00:28:58.080 was like, fuck it. 1.00

00:28:59.600 Who cares? 1.00

00:29:00.120 Like, okay. 0.99

00:29:01.180 You did some like weird shit 10 years ago. 1.00

00:29:04.120 We don't care. 0.99

00:29:04.620 Like, let the man cook, you know, and everyone just kind of got over it.

00:29:10.660 No, you know, I'm not, I don't want to get into all the graphic details and, and whatever.

00:29:15.460 Well, I'm obviously not condoning what he did, but the, the point is, is that, uh, in dissident

00:29:24.820 politics, in revolutionary politics, in nationalist politics, what we don't need is conservatives.

00:29:31.560 I don't mean that in the sense, just in the ideological sense, but in like the temperamental

00:29:35.160 sense, we don't need people who are just constantly these like neurotic nerds, um, who are just

00:29:43.140 constantly finger waving, you can't do this and you can't do that.

00:29:45.760 And that's bad.

00:29:46.400 And that's bad.

00:29:47.700 We need people who are of a radical mindset, people who, who will take risks, people who

00:29:52.900 will go outside of, um, moral strictures convention and so on.

00:29:59.040 Um, because you know, that's the position that we're in.

00:30:01.680 We need to be revolutionary.

00:30:02.620 We need to create a counterculture.

00:30:04.120 We need to ultimately take on a lot of risk and deconstruct the, the morale, the public

00:30:10.680 morality under which we're subject.

00:30:12.100 Like the main weapon of our enemy is public morality, basically, whether it be anti-racism,

00:30:18.380 uh, political correctness, feminism, all of these things are designed basically to constrict 1.00

00:30:23.500 us and prevent us from politically ascending.

00:30:26.180 And so we need to, we're now in the role of the, you know, the moral revolutionary with

00:30:32.680 the break, we're breaking free.

00:30:33.920 We're, we're casting off, um, you know, these like ginocratic or, um, Jewish or Christian or 1.00

00:30:42.100 whatever moral strictures. 1.00

00:30:43.480 And we're saying, no, fuck all that gay shit. 1.00

00:30:46.100 Let's have vitality. 1.00

00:30:47.740 Let's have life.

00:30:48.940 Let's live, let's exist.

00:30:50.740 And we don't have to be perfect in order to want to exist.

00:30:54.880 And in fact, the best fighters are probably going to be people that have kind of done 0.77

00:30:58.680 some weird shit in their life because those are the kinds of people that are going to throw

00:31:03.440 themselves head first into startup projects into, or whatever that could end up, you know, 0.98

00:31:10.020 turning into the kinds of things that we need, like as a people, you know, people criticize

00:31:14.160 me in the past or have criticized me a lot because, you know, my past is kind of, yeah, let's

00:31:20.540 say unconventional.

00:31:21.720 I'm a pretty unconventional guy.

00:31:24.060 And they go, Joel Davis, apparently I'm a Satanist.

00:31:26.640 Apparently I'm this, apparently I'm that.

00:31:29.260 And it's like, look, the reason why I'm the Joel Davis that'll stand in the street and,

00:31:35.140 you know, do these like provocative public displays or will confront the system in the

00:31:41.060 way that I do is precisely because I've got a radical personality that also expressed itself

00:31:47.060 in my youth or in other phases of my life in, in other ways.

00:31:50.340 And you can't have one without the other, some like, you know, moral conservative, who's

00:31:56.060 just been a good little church boy, a good little goy, who's just played by the rules 0.99

00:31:59.400 and never taken any risks and never stepped outside of the boundaries his whole life.

00:32:04.000 That guy can't do what I do because he's just going to be thinking like, oh, what if

00:32:07.160 I get arrested or what if this happens?

00:32:08.940 And what if people on the internet say this and so on? 0.99

00:32:10.920 And he's never going to do anything because he's a pussy and because he's, he's not creative 1.00

00:32:16.020 and he's not dynamic as a, as a person. 1.00

00:32:18.020 That's not the kind of person that's going to win.

00:32:20.000 So it's like, we kind of have to, we kind of have to tolerate a little bit of excess in

00:32:25.900 our own fighters, in our own people.

00:32:27.520 We're going to have to kind of let our guys go a little too fast sometimes, or we're going

00:32:32.720 to have to forgive some youthful indiscretions and so on.

00:32:36.160 It's the only way that we're going to get through this.

00:32:37.560 And we kind of allow the left to come along and just like morally cancel, you know, our 0.99

00:32:43.060 guys because they've done silly shit at one point in their history. 0.96

00:32:46.300 If they're actually loyal to the movement, that's what matters. 0.98

00:32:49.920 Like obviously just loyalty to our cause and our movement, that can't be tolerated.

00:32:54.280 But if they're loyal and, and committed and competent in serving our movement, I don't

00:33:01.600 think we should be morally kind of critiquing their whole life.

00:33:04.700 I don't think you have to be a perfect person with a perfect record to, uh, to contribute. 0.99

00:33:10.800 If, if you do have to be perfect, we're fucked. 0.99

00:33:14.200 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:14.640 Yeah.

00:33:14.940 And no one else is like the other side isn't perfect.

00:33:17.220 No, no side in politics is perfect.

00:33:18.840 We're all human. 0.99

00:33:19.420 Well, this is like, um, like we can look at the other side is Democrats having anal sex 0.99

00:33:29.440 in the state Capitol or in the, the Nate, the nation's Capitol. 1.00

00:33:33.440 It's Spanish politicians, literally, you know, raping kids. 1.00

00:33:38.040 It's German politicians, literally eating shit, like licking pot. 1.00

00:33:42.080 Like this is, this is what our enemy is doing. 1.00

00:33:44.180 And then we're like, um, you know, oh, this guy banged his wife on camera once like 10 years

00:33:50.200 ago. 0.86

00:33:50.500 Like we're like, yeah, this kind of nonsense.

00:33:53.440 And frankly, your, your example is a good one as well, because it's not even uncommon. 0.98

00:33:58.600 Um, people love to give you shit because you talked about, um, like you were, uh, you know, 0.98

00:34:04.000 in your youth, right. 0.99

00:34:05.060 It was, you were dabbling with like Antifa and like anarchist kind of politics.

00:34:09.300 Like that's not even, that's not even like when I was, when I was like 15, when I was

00:34:16.400 like 15, basically.

00:34:18.740 Um, so, uh, you know, that's a long time ago and I was quite young.

00:34:24.360 I did start reading anarchist literature, like from the 19th century authors like Mikhail Bakunin,

00:34:31.280 who, by the way, was like a raging anti-Semite and, um, you know, people like this.

00:34:36.400 And I was like, this is very interesting.

00:34:37.520 Um, this is kind of a, it was the first kind of non-mainstream like politics I was ever

00:34:43.140 exposed to.

00:34:43.860 And I found it very interesting. 0.99

00:34:44.880 And I sympathize with the fuck the elites message with the bring down the bankers, bring 0.99

00:34:50.200 down the, cause I understood that let's say the capitalist system or whatever and had a 0.99

00:34:56.740 lot of like serious flaws.

00:34:58.560 So, and that, that we had, there was a nefarious group that was running my society.

00:35:03.180 And so that was what drew me to those ideas.

00:35:06.340 But I was always kind of politically incorrect.

00:35:08.600 I was always, you know, I, I, so then anyway, I went online and tried to find people who read

00:35:13.280 this stuff, other anarchist discussion forums online on like Facebook and Reddit and places

00:35:18.340 like that.

00:35:18.840 And to discuss this subject.

00:35:21.220 And what I found that was very disappointing where no one wanted to discuss Mikhail Bakunin.

00:35:25.060 What they wanted to discuss was, um, you know, anti-fascism and, uh, feminism and, you know, constantly

00:35:33.840 like how, how far can like political correctness and like, you know, deconstructing microaggressions 1.00

00:35:41.580 go and all this gay shit. 1.00

00:35:43.300 And I was making like wife beating jokes and like Hitler jokes and shit like that. 1.00

00:35:47.660 It didn't last very long. 0.83

00:35:48.720 Like they just literally just excommunicated me online before I even had a chance to even

00:35:52.580 meet them in real life.

00:35:53.440 Like, like that, it didn't fit.

00:35:56.180 I never fit. 1.00

00:35:56.760 And I was like, these people were fucking gay. 1.00

00:35:59.000 And then, uh, through those experiences, a lot of those discussion forums that would have 0.99

00:36:03.160 like anarcho-capitalists as well, come in and like debate with the anarcho, the, the socialist,

00:36:08.860 anarcho-socialists or whatever.

00:36:10.600 And so I was drawn to them, not because I liked capitalism.

00:36:14.240 I was still critical of capitalism, but I thought temperamentally that they were like

00:36:17.620 normal.

00:36:18.180 You can have a conversation.

00:36:19.180 They were like reasonable.

00:36:20.300 They, they, they, they didn't morally police you so much in your speech.

00:36:25.380 And so then I kind of like drifted towards kind of hanging out in like libertarian spaces

00:36:30.240 online, but never really fitting in.

00:36:31.660 Um, and so, but then on the fringes of the libertarian spaces, I got into my late teens.

00:36:38.040 That's where, you know, at that time, you know, we're talking about, you know, 2014, 2015,

00:36:43.140 there was things like near reactionary blogs.

00:36:46.960 There was race realism.

00:36:48.020 There was, you know, debuting, uh, elements of the alt-right was all emerging on that fringe

00:36:53.600 of the libertarian movement at the time.

00:36:55.180 And so then I became exposed to all of that and just immediately gravitated towards it.

00:36:59.060 Um, so, you know, um, it's a political trajectory at that time in the 2010s, like where that

00:37:06.960 makes a lot of sense. 0.96

00:37:07.580 It wasn't like now where you just go on Instagram and you just see like Hitler speeches and shit.

00:37:10.820 Like it was a completely different paradigm back then. 0.90

00:37:13.580 And then people say, Oh, Joel Davis, he was a, an Antifa reject who, you know, now he's

00:37:20.440 now, you know, but the people that say that are usually just like Jews or like conserve,

00:37:24.780 like, you know, they're just retards, like no one's serious as that, but yeah, but like, 1.00

00:37:30.380 yeah, I was drawn to that because I have a revolutionary mindset.

00:37:33.620 I wanted to fight the system.

00:37:35.020 I wanted to engage in, in, in, in revolutionary activity.

00:37:39.020 You should want people like that in our movement.

00:37:41.240 You know, the left has got all these revolutionary types and has for decades that take it to

00:37:46.960 the streets that implement their ideology in the world in a forceful and direct way, who

00:37:51.940 engage with culture, who engage, create creatively with, with trying to subvert the culture and

00:37:58.160 upend the, you know, the, the kind of moral norms of their enemies and, and so on.

00:38:03.060 This is the people that we need on our side.

00:38:04.840 We don't need a bunch of stuffy conservatives all wearing, you know, played suits and standing

00:38:10.420 around smoking cigars.

00:38:12.460 And, you know, on a, on a Friday night, you know, like wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

00:38:17.160 We're a little racist.

00:38:17.960 And then just go back to work on Monday and just like behave like a total normie.

00:38:21.300 Like we don't need those kinds of people in the movement because I've met countless people 0.99

00:38:24.640 like that and then they don't fucking do anything. 0.98

00:38:27.640 Yeah. 0.95

00:38:28.420 The reason why, like it didn't, when, when I first heard that about you as well, it didn't

00:38:33.900 shock me at all.

00:38:34.480 Cause one, I know multiple people who have the same story and mine is similar as well.

00:38:39.360 I was drawn to Bakunin and Kropotkin in these writings as well when I was in university and

00:38:45.140 I had the same experience.

00:38:46.280 I was drawn towards anarchist politics.

00:38:50.560 And then I started talking with people who, you know, supposedly are also interested in

00:38:54.460 those politics. 1.00

00:38:54.980 And I realized they're just fucking communists. 0.99

00:38:57.120 They're not anarchists. 1.00

00:38:58.080 They're communists.

00:38:59.180 And so I was pushed towards the opposite side, which is anarcho capitalism slash libertarianism.

00:39:03.360 And that's where I cooked until I was eventually drawn towards more nationalist politics.

00:39:08.500 Like your story isn't even that unique in that sense when it comes to people.

00:39:13.140 Most people are drawn from more conservative circles, but there's a sizable portion of nationalists

00:39:18.660 who came from the left specific for the reasons you said, because they're, not because they're

00:39:23.880 communists or something like that, but because they're anti-establishment or they're revolutionary

00:39:29.360 in their thinking.

00:39:30.240 So it's really not that strange of a phenomenon.

00:39:34.860 I got a couple here though, just before we move too far, Ryan Triple G says, do you want

00:39:40.340 to survive or do you want to keep your moral hangups?

00:39:43.780 Yeah.

00:39:44.140 Like it's, people would rather spurg out about an indiscretion than move forward and actually

00:39:51.020 advance, you know, our position.

00:39:53.520 So, I mean, this isn't really that complicated.

00:39:56.480 Um, and then Plebeter Destroyer says, Joel is the first person I saw speak of this countercultural

00:40:02.120 phenomenon.

00:40:03.020 As with many upcoming trends, Ferry interviewing one of the Aussie quadfecta is peak content.

00:40:08.100 Lastly, hail the second sons and NSN.

00:40:10.440 Uh, cheers.

00:40:10.820 Thanks a lot for that, man.

00:40:11.660 And yeah, thanks Ryan Triple G.

00:40:13.120 That was a really generous donation as well. 0.98

00:40:15.760 A couple more here, uh, homosexual, homosexual griper says, sorry, this is terrible. 0.91

00:40:22.420 What we need is billionaires donating to our podcast so we can read the news some more and 1.00

00:40:27.260 have straight sex with looks, looks, max or chads. 0.96

00:40:31.140 Um, I, I guess that's a little tongue in cheek. 0.98

00:40:34.240 We'll just move past that.

00:40:39.160 Do you have thoughts on that?

00:40:40.240 That sounds great.

00:40:41.840 Yeah.

00:40:43.080 Yeah, that sounds great.

00:40:44.180 Why not?

00:40:45.660 I mean, if billionaires want to donate to the podcast, I'm not going to, uh, you know, say

00:40:51.260 no, but, uh, I don't, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

00:40:55.240 Uh, and intrusive thoughts is, oh no, a sex tape with his then wife. 0.98

00:40:58.960 Meanwhile, the country is run by Mossad pedophile Island goblins. 0.93

00:41:02.060 It's, yeah, it's, yeah, well, I mean, it's, I'm not condoning what, I mean, it was kind 0.99

00:41:07.440 of gross, like the, like, yeah, you know, dating a cam whore, banging her and then, and 0.99

00:41:14.540 then putting kids in it. 1.00

00:41:15.300 Like, that's pretty messed up, but you know, he's the one that's dealing with that.

00:41:18.840 That's his life. 0.97

00:41:19.840 You know, I feel sorry for the nigger, you know, that's, uh, I mean, he got himself in 1.00

00:41:25.280 that mess by like, you know, I feel sorry for the nigger, you know, pour one out. 1.00

00:41:29.120 Like, where's your empathy? 0.96

00:41:30.020 Like, you know, where was, where was, where were his friends at the time going?

00:41:33.720 Like, what are you doing, bro? 0.99

00:41:34.920 What, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:41:36.660 You know? 1.00

00:41:37.860 So it's just a failure of white brotherhood. 0.76

00:41:43.420 Would you tell your friends that you were. 1.00

00:41:46.980 One of my, one of my boys started dating a cam whore. 1.00

00:41:49.720 I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:41:51.000 No, no. 1.00

00:41:51.360 I mean, if you were dating a cam whore, would you even like, would you. 1.00

00:41:56.080 I wouldn't date a cam whore. 1.00

00:41:57.060 I know you wouldn't, but I'm just saying, um. 0.99

00:41:59.940 If I was, would I, would I smash on the, on the, on the live stream?

00:42:07.480 I mean, I don't, I guess you've got to, I guess we're just kind of at least mogging. 0.98

00:42:12.260 It's like, rather than like, you know, like at least you're, at least you're the nigger 1.00

00:42:16.280 who's fucking in that situation. 1.00

00:42:17.440 But it's like, why are you dating a cam whore? 1.00

00:42:18.980 Like, just don't, just let's war game this out. 0.99

00:42:22.680 And then one thing to go through a phase of dating one.

00:42:25.120 Okay.

00:42:25.240 Maybe you're having some fun.

00:42:28.360 Marry the kids. 0.72

00:42:30.640 Anyway, obviously that's the thing though.

00:42:33.500 We're sitting on the sidelines here.

00:42:35.420 It doesn't affect us. 1.00

00:42:37.060 This shit hasn't fucking like you, you don't have to fucking be married to a cam whore. 1.00

00:42:41.360 Right. 1.00

00:42:41.800 So we should be feeling empathy for this guy.

00:42:44.100 You know, it's, and look at what he's doing now.

00:42:46.100 He's trying to really advance the ball in the last few months.

00:42:50.240 He's been super effective.

00:42:52.060 So.

00:42:52.780 Yeah.

00:42:53.480 I like the fact that everyone went, you know what?

00:42:56.460 Get behind, get behind him. 0.51

00:42:58.980 He's our boy. 0.99

00:43:00.560 And, you know, he doesn't need a fucking, he almost like self-flagellated too much. 0.99

00:43:07.060 Like, he doesn't need a self-flagellate. 0.99

00:43:09.920 Like he can, you know, say like, you know, this is not something I condone. 0.99

00:43:13.000 And I, he has to say shit, you know, that makes sense. 0.99

00:43:15.340 Like he has to say that, you know, that, that he's not about that life. 0.99

00:43:18.400 It was a very long time ago.

00:43:21.020 And he would never condone that kind of behavior, but like, obviously, but he doesn't need to

00:43:25.820 beat himself up over it.

00:43:27.860 No.

00:43:29.120 Just implement, just like succeed.

00:43:31.180 Like we should judge him by what is he putting, putting on the table.

00:43:35.180 And does this really mean that like, you know, he's going to betray the movement or something?

00:43:40.960 Like, I don't, I don't think you could say that on the basis of something like this.

00:43:45.580 So, you know, I think, yeah, but it's, there's been lots of like in Australia, for example,

00:43:51.820 right now, there's a politician by the name of Mark Latham.

00:43:54.600 Yeah.

00:43:55.080 Right.

00:43:55.260 And this Mark Latham individual, he used to be the leader of the Labour Party.

00:44:00.420 So like when Canada, the equivalent of what the Liberal Party, like he was like the leader,

00:44:06.000 he almost became prime minister in 2004.

00:44:07.940 But it just shows how quickly things degenerated, that he went from being the leader of the Labour

00:44:14.020 Party to being kicked out of the One Nation Party, like 20 years later, or less than 20

00:44:20.120 years later for saying some anti-homosexual public comments.

00:44:24.240 Um, so he went from being the leader of the left to being kicked out of the populist right

00:44:29.120 for being like too based basically.

00:44:31.800 Um, and then his political career was kind of going nowhere for some time, but then he's

00:44:37.340 in New South Wales politics now, rather than federal politics.

00:44:39.800 Well, New South Wales, uh, you know, earlier in the year, seemingly Mossad paid organized

00:44:46.140 crime to stage a fake terrorist attack attempt against Jews in order to create a pretext

00:44:52.600 to pass hate speech laws, stronger hate speech laws in New South Wales.

00:44:56.380 Uh, they call it the Dural Caravan hoax, uh, where this caravan was filled up with explosives 0.99

00:45:02.540 and this note was written with like the address of a synagogue and fuck the Jews on it. 0.98

00:45:08.420 And basically what the federal police have said is that it's a foreign coordinated, a foreign 0.99

00:45:13.940 coordinated hoax.

00:45:14.840 They haven't named the country, but like, you know, two plus two equals four. 0.98

00:45:18.300 It was obviously fucking Israel or in, by, you know, direct or indirect means. 0.98

00:45:24.240 And a similar thing has happened in Melbourne with the synagogue fire that happened last 0.99

00:45:28.280 year to, to create the similar pretext here has also been linked to, to foreign coordination,

00:45:33.700 uh, paying Australian gangsters to carry that out.

00:45:37.100 So it's nothing to do with politics or political antisemitism.

00:45:40.760 Nevertheless, they used it as a pretext to pass stronger hate speech laws in both Victoria

00:45:45.560 and New South Wales, the two biggest States in Australia, under the pretext, we've got

00:45:49.620 to protect the Jewish community and make them feel safe because all of this, this upswing

00:45:53.440 in antisemitism is, is leading to violence or whatever.

00:45:57.440 Mark Latham called it out at the time.

00:45:59.440 He, he opposes it when the bill was before parliament.

00:46:01.520 And then once the hoax was exposed, he hammered the issue and has led the charge in, um, an inquiry,

00:46:08.140 like a parliamentary inquiry into, you know, what, to what extent the premier's office was

00:46:13.280 involved in, in covering this up, uh, in order to maintain their pretext to pass these

00:46:18.000 laws, et cetera, et cetera.

00:46:19.940 And so he was really taking on the Jews and, you know, for a long time, he called himself 0.61

00:46:24.580 a Zionist and sucked up to Israel, but he's, you know, he started kind of breaking free of 1.00

00:46:28.460 that and criticizing the Jewish lobby, um, through this process, cause the Jewish lobby 0.65

00:46:33.220 were the, you know, the leading force behind these, these hate speech law changes.

00:46:36.520 And, uh, as he started taking on the Jews and taking on, you know, power and, and kind 0.70

00:46:44.600 of reestablishing himself in politics and playing a key role, um, boom, all of a sudden, you

00:46:51.040 know, all his text messages with his ex missus leak. 0.99

00:46:53.720 And she's like, uh, only fans slut. 1.00

00:46:57.060 That's like 30 years younger than him. 1.00

00:46:58.540 And he's, she's calling him master and they're doing all this weird BDSM shit. 0.93

00:47:02.040 And, uh, it's funny, like, it's actually just funny. 0.97

00:47:08.160 Um, apparently they were like banging in parliament or something and they're trying to go after

00:47:12.020 him and like ruin him politically.

00:47:13.160 But instead of pushing out and doing the mea culpa or something, he just quadrupled down 1.00

00:47:18.340 and was like, yeah, I fuck. 1.00

00:47:19.660 What about it? 1.00

00:47:20.360 You know, and there's been going, he's even more antisemitic.

00:47:24.380 Now he's marching against Israel.

00:47:25.740 He's calling sky news sky Jews. 0.53

00:47:27.720 Like that's a Joel Davis line.

00:47:28.880 And he's just like completely is, is, is, he's breaking free.

00:47:34.940 Um, and so, yeah, like the goon riot is ascending. 1.00

00:47:38.660 If you, if we could just, if we can just own the shit and let virile men fuck so that 1.00

00:47:45.200 they can just fight the Jews rather than, you know, trying to police them with this kind 1.00

00:47:50.040 of ginocratic, like a moral bullshit and just go, look, a lot of the guys that are going 1.00

00:47:54.960 to be leading the charge in this, they're going to be horny motherfuckers because 1.00

00:47:58.800 you need to have a certain amount of vitality. 1.00

00:48:00.620 Because if you think about it, sex and racism is basically the same thing, right?

00:48:05.720 But both of these things are how you perpetuate your existence fundamentally.

00:48:11.180 It's, it's, it's the life force. 0.98

00:48:13.680 And so it would make sense that horny niggers are also going to be leading the charge. 1.00

00:48:18.920 You're not going to have like a low test, you know, um, sexless freaks leading the charge 1.00

00:48:24.460 here.

00:48:24.780 You know, we're going to have, it's going to be the freak, right?

00:48:27.280 It's going to be the goon, right? 0.99

00:48:29.600 And, um, and, and that's, that's kind of where things are going.

00:48:33.480 Like I'm seeing like, that's the trends, you know, Sydney Sweeney has great genes, like 0.93

00:48:37.040 this whole kind of like, uh, you know, sexy racism direction.

00:48:41.680 Well, that was happening.

00:48:42.540 That was actually one of the topics that I wanted to get into with you and cause I was

00:48:47.280 actually, I haven't heard your take on any of it, but I'm curious what you think about

00:48:50.860 it because I saw a lot of people, there's obviously the Sydney Sweeney ad.

00:48:55.280 There was a Dunkin' Donuts kind of like white boy summer ad.

00:48:59.560 I don't know if you saw that one.

00:49:01.240 Um, there was a, uh, like an, an Arby's ad that kind of, you know, uh, like out of the

00:49:08.760 United States, like there's this resurgence of this kind of, you know, late nine

00:49:12.480 nineties or, you know, early nineties, um, you know, Calvin Klein style, just like sex 0.67

00:49:19.000 fueled advertisement.

00:49:20.840 Right.

00:49:21.820 Um, and I saw a lot of people, like, obviously a lot of people are embracing this for the

00:49:27.680 correct reasons.

00:49:28.520 And then there's some people who are engaging in, in, you know, justified skepticism and

00:49:35.120 saying, you know, like guys, like these are like American Eagles, a Jewish company.

00:49:38.800 Like these are Jewish companies that are using this kind of advertising to satiate your, you 1.00

00:49:45.800 know, rage.

00:49:46.420 And basically they're just pushing it back a little bit.

00:49:48.880 And so like, they're making a valid point, but also, isn't that good?

00:49:52.780 Like, don't, don't you think that makes you a valid point?

00:49:55.020 I don't think that's a valid point at all. 0.99

00:49:56.500 I think basically the Jewish companies who want to sell shit and what they're realizing 1.00

00:50:02.800 is that you can sell like sex sells, racism sells. 1.00

00:50:10.020 And you might say, well, you know, like we don't celebrate the fact that they're exploiting

00:50:14.800 that to make profit or whatever, but we should recognize that as a positive shift in the zeitgeist

00:50:20.200 and recognize that you should lean into that. 0.99

00:50:23.440 It's just a fucking ad, like who fucking cares? 1.00

00:50:25.460 Like people were having such strong opinions about a fucking jeans ad. 1.00

00:50:29.080 It doesn't fucking matter. 0.99

00:50:30.380 But like, what's interesting is that things are shifting back that we hit peak woke. 0.97

00:50:34.800 I said this and a lot of people didn't get it.

00:50:38.900 And I said, we hit peak woke.

00:50:39.940 We're, we're on the upswing back the other direction now, because, you know, the entire

00:50:45.880 trajectory of like leftist culture was dependent upon deconstructing the, like, you know, the

00:50:52.080 Christian conservative 1950s layover post-World War II norm, right?

00:50:58.000 Well, that's been utterly destroyed now.

00:50:59.720 Like there's literally nothing left of that.

00:51:01.720 There's not one single element of it left.

00:51:04.500 And so youth rebellion can't continue going in the leftward direction.

00:51:11.040 Basically, a psychological conservative would align themselves with the left now, because

00:51:16.640 the left are the upholders of public morality.

00:51:19.400 The left are the upholders of establishment, institutional power, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:51:25.940 And in what the force that is trying to constrict your sexuality now is not Christian conservatism,

00:51:32.560 like that's utterly dead.

00:51:34.620 It's feminism. 1.00

00:51:36.640 It's a bunch of, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's also anti-racism and leftism.

00:51:41.700 And they're trying to tell you that like having a healthy male sexuality where you like big

00:51:45.340 boobs or you like blonde women, um, or you like, you know, traditional gender roles or whatever, 1.00

00:51:50.460 that this makes you a pig. 0.99

00:51:53.180 Um, and you know, you need to appreciate like some fat, like she-boon in jeans or something 1.00

00:51:58.620 instead. 0.84

00:51:58.960 Otherwise, you know, you're not progressive enough or, you know, fat women are pretty, 1.00

00:52:03.300 old women are pretty, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:52:06.000 No, fuck all that shit. 1.00

00:52:07.520 Right. 1.00

00:52:08.080 The eugenic reality is kind of like re-establishing itself.

00:52:14.040 Um, beauty is fascist. 0.99

00:52:16.780 Sex is fascist. 0.98

00:52:18.240 Like it's all coming back, you know, like this is kind of coming back. 0.98

00:52:21.380 This is what Jonathan Bowden was talking about in his speeches.

00:52:24.080 This is what, this was what the idea behind the alt-right originally was supposed to be.

00:52:29.240 Now we're actually getting it.

00:52:30.800 Now it's actually happening and it's happening organically.

00:52:33.680 Broad spectrum.

00:52:35.060 You know, where are all the kids coming from these days that are coming into the movement?

00:52:38.840 Pick up artistry, looks maxing.

00:52:41.480 Like, think about the implications of that.

00:52:44.680 MMA, like masculine vitality and sexuality is literally the force that is undergirding like the kind of return of racial consciousness.

00:52:56.440 What's, what do we, what do we describe white people who don't agree with us as? 0.60

00:53:00.540 Cucks. 0.98

00:53:00.880 You know, it's a sexual metaphor with, with, you know, an obvious meaning and true meaning.

00:53:08.560 So we shouldn't be afraid of this.

00:53:11.080 Just lean into it and, uh, enjoy it.

00:53:13.680 Like we get to be the guys having fun.

00:53:15.480 We're the kind of irreverent, uh, we're the, yeah, we're the ones having fun in politics.

00:53:20.340 We're the ones full of life and like youth and vitality.

00:53:23.740 And they're the, uh, oh, you can't, you can't like this.

00:53:27.060 Oh, you can't have fun like that.

00:53:28.760 You know, let them play that role.

00:53:30.120 It's going to mean that they're going to lose the upcoming generation of red-blooded young white men and women who we want on our side. 0.75

00:53:37.900 So this is actually a beautiful thing.

00:53:40.800 Yeah, I think, uh, you're bang on there.

00:53:43.360 And that, that was my, you know, reaction to the advertisers too.

00:53:46.820 It's like, guys, this is great for us.

00:53:48.660 They're insinuating that anything associated with like beauty, vitality, and strength is inherently, you know, Nazi coded or fascist.

00:53:56.940 Like, that's a great thing.

00:53:57.980 Like, these are great, like, this is exactly what we want them to do.

00:54:02.080 They claim everything that's ugly and vile and distasteful for themselves.

00:54:06.080 And they push everything that's wholesome, beautiful, you know, sexual, like, towards us.

00:54:11.260 Like, this is, this is a good thing.

00:54:13.500 Um, a good example of that too, because I know you talked to him, um, a little while ago.

00:54:19.300 And we talked to him pretty recently is Hermes.

00:54:21.660 The thing that I found so interesting about Hermes is that he doesn't have any of the traditional lines to this, these kinds of politics that you would, you know, that most people, um, you know, 25 and over have.

00:54:35.060 So when we were talking to him, I'm making references and he's like, I don't know who that is.

00:54:39.440 You know, I had black killed. 1.00

00:54:40.420 I don't know who that is. 0.98

00:54:41.400 Red ice.

00:54:41.860 I don't know who that is.

00:54:42.820 Like, you could just like it, all these people, he just doesn't know who he is.

00:54:46.460 So how did he get here?

00:54:47.480 He got here because of, um, uh, well instinct, but also just hyperborean edits and like random Instagram clips.

00:54:57.560 So like, that's, that's, what's getting these people, it's not like the stuffy old, like, uh, you know, nerd intellectual, um, things it's, it's random edits on, uh, tick tock and Instagram that is now driving the next generation, which is very interesting to me.

00:55:12.760 The fact that he like popped up and then basically immediately was like, I'm going to interview Tom Sewell and like me, basically, like it just shows that he immediately gravitated towards like NSN,

00:55:27.060 like rule maxed, like, you know, street rally kind of content or something, because that actually is dynamic in this, in this new environment.

00:55:34.440 Like if you're scrolling on Instagram and it's like Hitler's speech, um, some like, what have you ever seen this crazy, I mean, I don't have Instagram, but I've scrolled my friend's Instagrams just to see like what comes up.

00:55:46.400 And it's insane. 0.94

00:55:47.480 Like to have the quality of the brain right now, you'll have like some like psychedelic insanity and just like nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, just like the N word being spammed the whole video. 0.95

00:55:57.060 And then you go to the next video and it's just like a montage of like Indians getting like hit by trains or something. 0.94

00:56:01.940 And then you scroll again and it's just, you know, sun rad edits.

00:56:05.360 Like that's literally what young normies are seeing now on TikTok and Instagram all the time.

00:56:10.360 Like it's completely saturating and the views are insane.

00:56:13.400 Like the reach is insane.

00:56:16.040 And it's all happened very, very quickly.

00:56:18.780 And that might seem like trivial or superficial on one level.

00:56:22.420 But on another level, what it is, is actually like a mass conditioning to receiving our worldview that hasn't actually happened until like now.

00:56:30.820 Like it's like our ideas, our position is totally ascendant right now, culturally.

00:56:38.620 Like everything is changing very, very quickly.

00:56:40.420 And I think that is blatantly clear.

00:56:44.160 And the new wave of people that are going to come through, these new young whites that are coming through, they're coming through because they are recognizing beauty, power, strength, vitality.

00:56:56.360 They're not coming through because they're nerds who read a whole bunch of books and heard all these arguments about why ethno-nationalism is reasonable or something.

00:57:08.000 They're drawn to basically a kind of message and a culture of empowerment and dynamism.

00:57:16.020 You know, the right is sexy and cool now, or at least like the racist right.

00:57:20.540 And they want to rebel against a system that if you're growing up today in like a Western city, I mean, you know, your school is full of non-whites. 1.00

00:57:32.700 You're constantly being talked down to. 0.99

00:57:35.580 Half the white kids are gay retards, right? 1.00

00:57:38.860 Women are out of control. 1.00

00:57:40.720 Your job prospects, your career prospects, your life prospects are clearly much worse than what your parents faced when they were your age. 1.00

00:57:48.300 Which, you know, how can you look at that and go, well, clearly everything that these faggots believe in is like false, like, you know, is bullshit. 1.00

00:57:57.420 And like, what's the alternative? 1.00

00:57:59.900 How do we get out of this?

00:58:00.940 And so it does seem, it's a really beautiful thing, like I was saying.

00:58:06.560 And yeah, the future of the movement is going to be, as I said, leaning into that, which is what I've been trying to do and what we've been trying to do for some time.

00:58:14.920 It's not going to be, like, I just, you know, it's even like Nick Fuentes, right?

00:58:21.040 Weren't the Groypers supposed to be like trad cath or Catholic, traditionalist, conservatives, you know? 1.00

00:58:29.560 Who do they associate with?

00:58:31.620 Like Kanye West, like the ultimate, like, guna, if there ever was one.

00:58:34.680 And Andrew Tate, like the pickup artist pimp, you know, I saw some clip of Fuentes the other day where someone, some Catholic sent in something about how to find like a Catholic woman so you can wait until marriage with or something. 0.99

00:58:49.320 And he was like, bro, it's 2025, like, fuck that. 1.00

00:58:52.560 I want me a freak, like, this, like, trad bullshit isn't real. 1.00

00:58:56.500 And I was like, it's interesting that even, like, you know, the Catholic conservative type faction is, like, just completely, like, horny now. 0.99

00:59:06.040 Like, and, like, they don't, they just, like, rejected the whole puritanical insult thing at this point.

00:59:11.920 So that is just dead.

00:59:14.360 Like, it's over.

00:59:15.120 Like, and, like, read the tea leaves.

00:59:18.960 The future is, as I said, like, particularly with, like, young people coming into the movement, the future is going to be a total upending.

00:59:27.840 It's Jonathan Bowden's vision.

00:59:29.060 The future is going to be Nietzschean.

00:59:31.480 It's not going to be, you know, a bunch of, like, gay nerds, like, reading, like, I don't know, McIntyre and, like, Roger Scruton or something. 0.67

00:59:39.240 Yeah.

00:59:45.020 Instagram in particular was, I got kicked off of it.

00:59:49.340 I haven't made, tried making a new account, but it was, like, I don't know, two or three months ago that I was kicked off it.

00:59:54.660 And right before I was, I was, like, one, shocked at what I was seeing.

00:59:59.880 But do you know who Kenny KO is?

01:00:03.000 He's, like, a fitness influencer.

01:00:04.680 He does these, like, natty or not videos where he goes to people and he asks them if they're natural or not.

01:00:09.960 Well, he went from that to going to them and asking them questions like, if you got kicked out of 109 gyms, is it the gym's fault or your fault?

01:00:17.840 Like, that was the transition he made, making, like, Hitler videos and stuff like that.

01:00:22.320 This is a guy with 500,000 followers who are not political at all.

01:00:26.300 They're, they're following him because he talks about steroids and lifting weights.

01:00:31.460 That's, that's what he's talking about now.

01:00:33.380 Like, the shift is, and it's kind of, you know, back to what you were saying earlier, which is, you know, the looks maxing, fitness influencers, the, you know, the nutrition influencers.

01:00:46.480 Like, these are all because, like, there's, like, you know, the term, like, crunchy fascists.

01:00:50.400 Like, these people are everywhere now.

01:00:52.000 These, these anti-seed oil, anti, like, even they're dabbling into it.

01:00:56.120 Like, it's, it's full spectrum shift going on across these spaces.

01:01:02.840 But I got a few more here that I'll just go through before we get too far away from it.

01:01:09.980 Draftwark says, I'm a bloke, I'm an ocher, and I really love your knockers.

01:01:14.780 I'm a laborer by day.

01:01:16.200 I piss up all me pay.

01:01:17.680 I have no idea what that reference is to.

01:01:20.560 Is that an Australian thing?

01:01:23.940 Yeah.

01:01:27.360 All right.

01:01:27.900 Justice for fathers is calling all billionaires.

01:01:30.440 Yeah, that'd be pretty sweet.

01:01:32.820 Which, frankly, I've already seen it starting to happen.

01:01:36.980 I think you talked about this a while back, which is the money will follow after you build a legitimate movement.

01:01:42.460 And, but, like, a good example of that recently, and we were talking about him earlier, is some, like, I don't know what this guy's background is, but some guy dropped, like, $35,000 onto Return of the Lands Give, Send, Go.

01:01:54.120 Like, that's the kind of, like, that's crazy money relative to what has been pushed into these kind of projects in the past.

01:02:01.560 Like, people are willing to drop just $40,000 or whatever on a white-only community.

01:02:07.140 Like, that's an interesting development.

01:02:09.400 I haven't seen anything like that before, with a few exceptions.

01:02:14.440 But usually it was to influencers.

01:02:17.200 People dropped, like, a million dollars into Shiloh Hendrix because she said the N-word. 1.00

01:02:21.940 Like, yeah, I mean, but I don't know if anybody donated, like, that amount of money as a single person, like, whatever it was, $35,000, $40,000.

01:02:31.420 I know there was some big donations to Shiloh Hendrix, but I think that very soon there's going to be, and even, there's other examples, too.

01:02:41.460 Like, guys are getting sponsorships now.

01:02:43.220 And I know we talked with Hermes about this, but Hermes is sponsored by an online casino.

01:02:48.020 Now, you can argue, like, I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing or not, but it is interesting that an online casino is willing to throw money at some 20-year-old who's going around asking racist questions on the street.

01:02:59.720 Like, that's just, like, an interesting development.

01:03:02.140 Also, Gypsy Crusader is sponsored by a different casino, I think.

01:03:06.780 Like, and he had a post yesterday where he said he was using that money for somebody's legal fees and he intends to make a donation to return to the land.

01:03:16.720 So, there's interesting developments on that front of where money is now flowing in in ways that it wasn't before. 0.86

01:03:25.640 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of, I guess, relatively small-time shit, though, still. 0.70

01:03:29.760 But, yeah, like, there's obviously, that's a reality now on, like, X, for example, is, like, racism has just, like, taken over the website. 0.89

01:03:44.520 And a similar thing is happening on Instagram, even despite, like, the censorship that still exists on both of those platforms.

01:03:51.060 It's just like this, it's an idea whose time has come.

01:03:54.440 It's a sentiment which is undeniable.

01:03:56.420 And, yeah, it's something which people should feel white-pilled about, and it should inspire people to get involved in concrete projects to translate that cultural energy into something, like, genuinely political.

01:04:13.760 Because that's the hard part, you could say.

01:04:18.460 That's what we were discussing before.

01:04:19.920 I guess I kind of, like, segued away when your dog came in from talking about nationals.

01:04:25.300 But, yeah, like I said, people can get vetted, and if they're in Australia and they want to come next weekend in Melbourne. 0.99

01:04:33.040 And, yeah, and if the communists want to show up, like, bring it on, motherfuckers, because there's going to be a lot of us there. 0.98

01:04:41.080 And it's going to be very bad for you, I think, if they try something. 0.99

01:04:45.360 It's going to be very bad.

01:04:46.100 I'm just going to say that it would be very good for us, but very bad for you.

01:04:51.000 Like, when we had to deal with this last summer, we did have instances where they showed up.

01:04:55.180 They don't show up to actually do anything.

01:04:57.080 What they're trying to do is take photos of people or get their license plates or, you know, figure out who they are.

01:05:03.480 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:04.340 Very cowardly dox them online or, you know, email their boss or something.

01:05:08.940 Like, that's what they're not actually looking for a confrontation. 0.99

01:05:11.280 They just want to try to ruin your life like a spiteful little mutant. 0.98

01:05:16.420 Well, that's not always been true.

01:05:17.780 In the past, they have behaved more aggressively.

01:05:21.380 But, yeah, they usually pick on defenseless people.

01:05:24.660 That's the thing.

01:05:25.980 There's been times in Australian history where – in Australian political history where the right has tried to do something,

01:05:32.140 but they haven't secured the event and then Antifa show up and just start king-hitting grandmas and, you know, 0.98

01:05:40.200 throwing bricks at old people and shit. 0.97

01:05:42.040 Like, so – but, yeah, nothing's going to happen. 0.99

01:05:46.500 Nothing's going to happen this time because, yeah, there's too many of us.

01:05:52.160 Antifa are dwindling in numbers and we're expanding.

01:05:55.420 So, there probably is a point at which they'll, like, start expanding in numbers.

01:06:00.760 Like, if we get too successful, it will inspire people to get involved with them perhaps.

01:06:06.200 But, for now, it doesn't seem like they have a lot of energy.

01:06:10.880 And this is in Melbourne, which is, like, the Antifa capital of Australia, basically.

01:06:18.740 So, yeah, we'll see.

01:06:20.980 I remember when we did the Ban Niggers, Not Machetes banner, which, obviously, I think most people saw because that was extremely viral.

01:06:30.200 They did, like, a counter protest, like, a week later at that same shopping center or shopping mall, if you're an American, 0.92

01:06:37.940 where, you know, niggers were slicing each other up with machetes. 1.00

01:06:42.640 And when we did the banner. 0.95

01:06:45.340 And, of course, I wasn't there, personally, allegedly.

01:06:50.660 But, anyway, so, the lefties show up, like, the Victorian socialists, which are, like, they're too left-wing for the Greens party.

01:06:59.840 They're, like, basically an Antifa party, more or less.

01:07:03.120 They show up and do a counter demonstration and they had a banner that said,

01:07:07.040 ban my, oh, sorry, migrants are welcome, Nazis are not.

01:07:09.720 And they got, like, 80 trannies to show up, basically, and a couple freaks to stand there with this banner in the car park. 1.00

01:07:17.540 It was really pathetic. 0.98

01:07:19.400 And, like, no one cared. 1.00

01:07:21.880 No one cared about their goofy activism. 0.96

01:07:24.160 The only, ironically, too, like, the only nigger who showed up was the guy now, the individual now known as Cole Davis. 0.99

01:07:34.060 And he was, like, walking around with his camera phone.

01:07:39.900 Again, the first, I don't know this guy, but I saw this online.

01:07:44.400 He was walking around with his camera phone, going up to these, like, Antifa trannies that were protesting against us and going, 1.00

01:07:51.340 Oh, do you think niggers who commit crime should be deported? 1.00

01:07:55.000 And then, like, you just, he's a six-foot-six negro, you know, with a Sonnenrad t-shirt or something in their face. 0.99

01:08:01.320 So, you can just see, like, the fear in their eyes.

01:08:04.200 And it's kind of ironic because they were supposedly there in defense of him.

01:08:09.480 And, like, anyway, the event was a total farce.

01:08:14.720 But, like, no one cared about their event. 0.97

01:08:18.220 But then one of the boys did a Photoshop where they got their banner and they changed it from saying migrants are welcome, Nazis are not, to niggers are welcome, Nazis are not. 0.97

01:08:28.040 And we posted that online and pretended like it was real.

01:08:31.800 And their original post got, like, almost no views.

01:08:34.060 And our post, like, went viral because everyone was like, what?

01:08:36.260 Like, the communists in Australia are using the N-word?

01:08:38.400 Like, this is crazy.

01:08:40.000 Yeah.

01:08:40.300 And, yeah, a lot of people believed that it was real somehow, like, which was hilarious.

01:08:45.340 And, yeah, and then the police apparently told Cole Davis he had to leave. 0.92

01:08:52.180 So, the only nigger that was there got banned from the shopping center, ironically. 1.00

01:08:57.400 So, I mean, that's, like, the farce of the left these days. 0.99

01:09:02.060 Like, they've become, like, this kind of silly joke and where they, if they show up anywhere, they just look and act in an incredibly retarded and ineffective way. 1.00

01:09:12.260 Like, they have no political relevance beyond being kind of the laughingstock for us. 0.85

01:09:18.340 So, like, that was awesome.

01:09:20.740 Like, it was just pure content. 0.97

01:09:21.720 Like, there was this one tranny that was holding a sign that said, NSN are cowards. 0.91

01:09:25.460 And I put a poll up on my telegram. 0.96

01:09:28.940 I said, is this a male-to-female transition or a female-to-male transition?

01:09:34.000 And it got over 1,000 votes.

01:09:35.800 And it was literally a 50-50 dead heat.

01:09:39.900 Oh, I remember this.

01:09:41.800 Yeah, I remember this.

01:09:42.920 I was like, this is, like, gender fluidity final boss.

01:09:45.160 Like, how is there a poll where you get a 50-50 on that?

01:09:51.340 Like, it's wild.

01:09:53.260 Yeah, that was – yeah, I wish we had that – I wish I had that picture handy.

01:09:58.940 Because it's so fun.

01:10:00.020 Like, it is.

01:10:00.780 It's just that you really can't tell, can you? 0.94

01:10:05.340 Fancy Pants and MP5 says, Hail Hitler nigga Joel Davis sent me. 1.00

01:10:09.380 I think that's Cole Davis. 0.92

01:10:10.420 I'm not sure.

01:10:16.260 Islandsberger says, Two top whites, power level over 6 million.

01:10:18.980 Thanks for the stream, fellas.

01:10:20.240 Yeah, cheers, man.

01:10:21.000 It's good to see you in the chat.

01:10:23.260 Plevator Destroyer says, To either, why do you think Jews don't just turn off the switch? 1.00

01:10:28.680 Peter Thiel owns Rumble.

01:10:29.920 Jews can force Musk to return X to old Twitter. 0.99

01:10:32.820 Seems we are somewhat vulnerable on the net.

01:10:36.000 I mean, I don't know if you have – Peter Thiel owns Rumble.

01:10:39.160 Jews can just – can force Musk to return X to old Twitter. 0.99

01:10:44.060 Any thoughts on that?

01:10:45.020 Why are they allowing this to go ahead unimpeded?

01:10:49.700 Well, what leftists did after Trump was elected the first time was they started banning not only nationalists but conservatives off YouTube.

01:10:59.280 So the riot was forced to create an alternative streaming platform.

01:11:03.860 Obviously, Twitch doesn't allow them on either or any of the other mainstream platforms.

01:11:07.500 So the riot was forced to create its own one.

01:11:09.400 And if Rumble was to go against the principles of free speech, it would lose its audience base.

01:11:18.480 And it's the only way for the right to have an independent bit of infrastructure that is now really well established and, like, widely used to compete against the political enemy.

01:11:31.760 So the American riot was forced, essentially, to create space for us to speak because the left overstepped the mark in, like, partisan structural battles between those two elements.

01:11:44.920 And so that has played into our hands.

01:11:47.180 Elon Musk needs X.

01:11:49.540 He can't just – like, you know, he does kowtow to a certain extent.

01:11:54.360 You know, I'm banned from X.

01:11:56.220 So they do ban – they do ban people if they're too – like, obviously, that was because the Australian government asked for that to happen.

01:12:03.480 But Elon Musk needs X because that's his key piece of political leverage.

01:12:09.120 Elon Musk, every single aspect of his business empire other than X itself is dependent upon U.S. government contracts and subsidies.

01:12:19.900 So he needs political power and influence in order to – basically, he's the richest man in the world, but he's dependent on the U.S. government and a relationship to the U.S. government.

01:12:30.500 And he wants more contracts.

01:12:32.040 He wants more influence over the U.S. government going into the future because he has – you know, he wants to be the space program guy.

01:12:39.420 He wants to be the AI guy and so on and so forth.

01:12:42.000 So in order for him to have that political influence, he needs leverage, right?

01:12:49.520 And he can't go to the left now.

01:12:51.700 He's been – he's through Romans in public and, you know, has played – he's said things that are far more radical than anything that Trump has said, for example, on various subjects.

01:13:06.220 So he can't go back to the left and kind of make up with them and the kind of – you know, he's kind of fallen out with Trump and that kind of – that MAGA call after, like, trying to buy his way in didn't work out.

01:13:22.480 So now he's basically alienated from the two main political camps in the United States.

01:13:27.160 He now has to help AstroTurf a third camp.

01:13:31.160 He has to start competing for control of the Republican Party with MAGA in the coming years.

01:13:40.120 That's what he has to do.

01:13:41.200 And he's not going to be able to do that unless he allows, number one, X to be kind of relatively free and open and to leverage that, one.

01:13:50.880 And two, play into a lot of Trump's weaknesses.

01:13:54.480 And where is Trump's main weakness with his own base?

01:13:58.140 It's this Epstein stuff.

01:13:59.660 It's Israel. 0.51

01:14:00.240 It's this type of thing.

01:14:03.040 So, yeah, the movement is radicalizing beyond Trump and that actually plays into Musk's Machiavellian designs.

01:14:11.740 I'm not saying Elon Musk is our guy.

01:14:13.300 I don't think he is at all.

01:14:14.720 But just thinking about it purely from a strategic and Machiavellian standpoint, in order for him to get personal leverage over American politics,

01:14:22.640 kind of needs to give us some space to roam and to function collectively as a movement.

01:14:29.760 And similarly, that's the case, I think you could say, with what Teal is doing with Rumble.

01:14:34.260 Well, it's not just Teal that's involved with Rumble, but what Rumble is basically as well.

01:14:40.320 So there's like this unique opportunity that has now arisen where because of political fighting within the United States, there's been basically an opening up of a degree of freedom of speech, I think you could say.

01:14:56.440 And so it's a great opportunity.

01:14:59.880 That's why it is how it is. 0.69

01:15:01.060 Like people say, well, the Jews could just shut it down. 0.97

01:15:03.080 It's like, okay, but no, they can't just shut it down because otherwise it wouldn't even exist in the first place because, you know, it's more complex than that.

01:15:09.960 So I think at this, at this stage too, if, if there was no option of Rumble or Odyssey or somebody would just create a new one, like there's, there's enough demand for it now that somebody somewhere is like, whether it's entropy or going TV, like there's going to be somebody that offers some kind of platform that can be used.

01:15:30.900 And the necessity of, of having that is going to facilitate the creation of more of these, uh, platforms.

01:15:40.200 There's kick, there's like, there's a ton of them, um, that, that are now an option.

01:15:45.540 So, yeah, I don't think, I think, I think there's an acceptance that like, they have to give us some space to operate in or somebody else is just going to give it to us anyways.

01:15:55.360 You know, like the only reason you're on Rumble is because you can't be on YouTube.

01:16:01.220 You can't be on, uh, Twitch or whatever.

01:16:05.000 Not that anyone really uses Twitch at this point, but that's because that's the reason why Twitch, well, a lot of people use Twitch, but the reason why Twitch is left-discoded is because it's extremely highly moderated.

01:16:13.860 It's like Reddit, like right-wingers don't use Reddit because the moderation is insane on there.

01:16:18.480 So like the left do that to their own spaces and like curate their spaces in the, in such a way.

01:16:26.860 Well, for the right, it's the opposite.

01:16:28.620 Like if you don't have free speech, like right-wingers are going to go start looking for that free speech alternative.

01:16:33.760 Like the market is there for it.

01:16:35.520 People want it.

01:16:37.180 Um, and so if Rumble doesn't capture that market, someone else will.

01:16:41.280 And then what's the point of Rumble?

01:16:42.740 If you don't, if you, you're going to be politically correct to an extent, like just go on YouTube.

01:16:47.280 This happened to, uh, to, to D live, like D live was one of those options that people fled to after the YouTube purges in, you know, 2018, 2019.

01:16:59.880 And it worked for a little while, make, I don't know, maybe a year and a bit.

01:17:04.660 And then they cracked down on everybody and they, they're, they completely destroyed their own platform by pushing all of these people who were bringing in revenue to it.

01:17:12.900 They all just left and they went to, uh, Odyssey and Entropy and, and other options.

01:17:18.340 And that was it.

01:17:19.240 It was done.

01:17:20.040 So, yeah.

01:17:20.720 Uh, I think there's just an acceptance that, again, they have to let us operate to some extent.

01:17:28.840 And even by the way, not everybody's allowed on Rumble.

01:17:31.840 Uh, there, there's multiple people that I know who are not allowed to have Rumble accounts.

01:17:36.040 Um, I mean, they're more like, we're talking about guys who are more, um, provocative, let's put it that way.

01:17:43.220 But, um, yeah, they can't just operate on Rumble.

01:17:46.640 So there is some moderation for sure.

01:17:48.740 Yeah, there is, but it's obviously a lot more relaxed.

01:17:54.140 Yeah.

01:17:54.720 But yeah, like that's, that's the thing as well. 1.00

01:17:56.740 Like the Jews don't just have like, it's, you, you're kind of an idiot. 0.99

01:18:02.600 If you kind of see the world in such a way where you think like the Jews are just like these puppet masters that just control everything and can do whatever they want. 1.00

01:18:09.640 Right.

01:18:10.060 Like reality exists.

01:18:11.620 It's like Jews have a lot of power and influence over the direction of many elements of our society, obviously, but it's still within constraints of like market and political strategic realities. 0.95

01:18:25.760 And as what we were just describing earlier, as racism and, uh, you know, everything else associated with our views continues to gain ascendancy.

01:18:36.260 Obviously it gets to the point where you get a critical mass where it becomes too big to fail.

01:18:41.080 Like someone is going to like the market opportunity is too tantalizing for it to be passed up upon and where it becomes so influential over the direction of online discourse that political concessions start needing to be made toward it.

01:18:56.860 Like if, if the Trump campaign didn't play into it a little bit, um, during the last election cycle or in 2016 or whatever, he wouldn't have won those two elections.

01:19:05.680 Like it's kind of necessary.

01:19:07.640 And that tendency is only going to continue where, you know, the right is going to be shaped by these ideas.

01:19:14.720 Because if you, if you look at like conservative politics, like young people getting involved in conservative politics or right-wing politics at this point, there's two groups.

01:19:24.380 One group is like crypto Nazis trying to like pretend that they're not what they really are so that they can get involved in these positions or it's like gays, um, Jews, non-whites, you know, mongrels and so on with, uh, it's, there's no like normal, healthy white, young white kid. 0.88

01:19:47.220 Who just like believes in, we're a nation of values and, um, you know, liberal democracy and all this like neocon garbage who just like puts on the suit and is like really smart and intelligent and dynamic. 0.88

01:20:01.660 And like ascends to like a position within like the youth wing of the concert, like that doesn't exist anymore.

01:20:06.820 Like that happened in like the nineties, those people will simply no longer exist.

01:20:11.380 Any like smart, dynamic, young white dude who gets involved in right-wing politics is on some level, our guy.

01:20:20.160 And so how is the, how is basically therefore there's two options.

01:20:24.180 One is you have no smart young dudes in the, in the right wing, which means they, all the smart young dudes go and create a nationalist movement outside of, outside of the mainstream right, which then eventually will become, which is kind of what's starting to happen, which will eventually overpower it and destroy it.

01:20:40.120 That's kind of what we're doing here.

01:20:42.560 Or the conservatives will have to basically make a whole series of concessions to like draw those people back in.

01:20:48.500 And so it's like heads, we win tails, you lose.

01:20:53.460 Yeah.

01:20:53.920 Well, this is another thing too, that we've seen develop, you know, Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh.

01:20:59.940 There's a few examples in particular who have been doing the, they're slowly shifting more and more towards a nationalistic position and people bitch and they go, oh, this is just them trying to, you know, it's just the Jews trying to, you know, tell you what you want to hear. 0.92

01:21:18.260 So that they can make you pro Israel. 0.85

01:21:20.200 And like, I don't know, to an extent that's probably true, but like, don't you realize how that's a good thing for us?

01:21:25.320 The fact that they, they understand that their major influencers have to start conceding to some of our positions in order to maintain relevancy.

01:21:32.020 Like, don't, don't you realize that this is them basically losing slowly they're, they're losing their influence to us.

01:21:39.100 Um, so like people, uh, like, I don't, if Charlie Kirk wants to go out there and say, it's not just the illegals that are the problem, it's third worlders. 1.00

01:21:48.080 Like, why would I complain about that?

01:21:50.200 It's a good thing that he's saying that.

01:21:51.800 Um, so yeah, there's this, uh, some, it almost seems like some of our guys just want to keep losing.

01:21:58.540 Like, they're just so comfortable with losing right now.

01:22:01.060 The concept of winning is uncomfortable and foreign to them.

01:22:04.980 Like it's change.

01:22:06.060 And like, they don't want to actually win.

01:22:08.300 They just want to be comfortable losing.

01:22:10.300 So, um, grumpy Tom says, just wanted to give a shout out to Joel and the rest of the Aussies love the show, but I'm never up in time to watch cheers fellas.

01:22:20.800 Yeah.

01:22:21.220 I'm like, I'm actually lucky.

01:22:22.980 Sometimes I can listen to you guys at work because I work really early in the morning.

01:22:26.460 So it's kind of nice, but yeah, uh, RSA Liberty says ferryman jump on a flight to Oz and come to nationals.

01:22:33.480 I wish, um, I mean, that, that was brought up recently.

01:22:37.820 I know hammer, um, was, I don't know how he, what, what, do you know what process he went through to like discover that they weren't going to let him in?

01:22:46.600 They just sent him a email basically.

01:22:49.960 But like, how did he apply?

01:22:51.900 Did, well, like, did he reach out to the, yeah, yeah.

01:22:54.540 Well, like, yeah, he got like, uh, cause if you're an American, I presume similarly, if you're Canadian, you can get like a visa waiver if you're coming to visit.

01:23:02.680 And then, uh, that was like approved.

01:23:07.440 Then obviously there was some flagging process.

01:23:13.920 Who knows?

01:23:14.560 Maybe American feds flagged it to our, to our government or our government, um, was tipped off that, okay, we should scan for people coming to this event, whatever.

01:23:25.180 But however, whatever the case may be, he was identified and then they just sent him an email saying like, nah, your visa has been revoked. 0.95

01:23:31.620 But I guess it's better that something like that happened to him than like what happened to like, say Mark Collett where, uh, recently where he's like detained in the airport and like met fucked around and then deported where you go through all this bullshit. 0.62

01:23:44.680 Um, just to be like sent back. 0.88

01:23:49.020 Um, so I guess that's, you could say that, but it was, it's shit, but obviously that in a way that's better, but this is perpetual problem with, um, I think it's getting a lot worse recently of, of nationalist dissidents getting like banned from international travel by other Western countries. 0.84

01:24:06.740 So I don't know, I think a lot, it's been happening a lot with the Australian government where they're just really getting really ban happy on, uh, political dissidents coming into the country. 0.84

01:24:16.880 So we, there is active court cases in Australia trying to contest this and so on.

01:24:21.200 Would it be interesting to see if they have any success, but like more like a mainstream ones.

01:24:24.820 Cause like Candace Owens got banned cause the Jews got upset.

01:24:27.520 She was trying to do a tour here.

01:24:29.480 Um, so we'll see how those go.

01:24:33.300 Um, because technically it should be unconstitutional.

01:24:36.340 Like if an Australian political group, uh, invites a foreign guest to come and speak, um, it's, uh, basically a denial of our right to political communication, which is constitutionally enshrined in, in the notion of representative democracy in our constitution.

01:24:53.200 So technically it's unconstitutional.

01:24:55.400 So there's a strong argument, but you know, whether the high court will see it like that or not, you know, it remains to be seen.

01:25:00.620 I'm not holding my breath, but we need to do something about this as, as, as the right.

01:25:05.940 Like to create, uh, you know, free movement of political dissidence or something as like a, as a new political objective. 0.61

01:25:14.280 Um, because, uh, otherwise it just sucks.

01:25:16.960 Like we're not going to be able to have cool conferences.

01:25:19.480 You know, I saw the golden one was like banned from Canada.

01:25:22.700 Was it recently?

01:25:23.660 Yeah.

01:25:24.120 Like stories like this have been happening a lot lately where everyone's getting like locked out of each other's countries.

01:25:30.280 So it's really annoying, but, uh, I mean, frankly, even like for non-political reasons, it's annoying because I would like to be able to go to the States, like not even necessarily for a political purpose.

01:25:43.260 Like just being able to go to the United States is a nice thing to be able to do.

01:25:47.240 If you want to get out of Canadian winters for a week and go to Florida or whatever, it's nice.

01:25:52.920 Um, I would like to be able to go back to the UK, um, you know, to Scotland.

01:25:58.640 Um, but I don't know if I'll be able to do that.

01:26:01.260 Uh, just because I liked, I like it there.

01:26:04.000 Not, not, not for political reasons.

01:26:06.060 Just like, I want to go look at some castles again. 0.70

01:26:08.200 Can I, can I, can I just fucking have a nice time? 0.80

01:26:11.280 Um, I promise I won't be political, but no, like I probably can't. 0.99

01:26:15.660 So yeah, it just sucks. 0.86

01:26:17.160 And I don't know how we go about addressing this, but it'll become worse too. 0.93

01:26:22.740 Um, and we know it'll become worse because, um, like last year, this conference that, uh,

01:26:29.380 the golden one was going to attend is called exiles of the golden age.

01:26:32.720 Um, and they do it. 0.82

01:26:34.000 I don't know how many years they've been doing it, but it's at least a few now.

01:26:37.380 And last year, Tom Rossell, uh, or is that Roswell or Rose?

01:26:42.320 I always survived the jive.

01:26:44.800 Um, he was able to get in for the conference.

01:26:47.660 And then this year, you know, I don't, I don't really see a difference between him and Marcus.

01:26:52.880 Um, they, they both are pretty clean cut guys.

01:26:56.200 They're not provocateurs.

01:26:57.140 It's not like they're super political or anything like that.

01:27:00.600 I mean, obviously they have political meanings and they're right wing, but they're not, um,

01:27:06.040 particularly aggressive, uh, in their politics.

01:27:09.660 And, uh, one could get in the other couldn't.

01:27:12.560 And then obviously, um, Paul Wagner from operation werewolf was supposed to come this

01:27:18.540 year as well.

01:27:19.020 And, and Marcus basically told him that they spent half of the time, uh, you know, that

01:27:23.520 they were interrogating him, asking him questions about Paul.

01:27:26.720 So he, you know, Marcus told him, he's like, you're not going to be able to get it.

01:27:29.500 Like, obviously they're concerned about you as well.

01:27:31.940 So he didn't even bother trying, but it would have been the same thing for him.

01:27:35.220 Um, um, so yeah, this it's, it's a problem that's just going to keep getting worse.

01:27:39.640 And yeah, it basically makes it so that, um, you know, there's, there's a new, uh, group

01:27:45.660 that just launched in Canada called the dominion society, which is, uh, kind of a, a more big

01:27:50.720 tent re-migration, um, organization.

01:27:54.640 Um, their, their intent is to, uh, popularize that term and those policies, and then try to

01:28:01.180 influence, uh, politicians, political parties, and other organizations.

01:28:06.080 Um, and, you know, if they want to put on conferences, like some of the ones that go

01:28:11.220 on in Europe, like they won't be able to probably bring Steve Laws or Martin Selner or, um,

01:28:17.580 Driz Van Langenhove or like, you know, these, these types of figures.

01:28:20.840 Um, so yeah, just really hamstrings our ability to, I don't know, have a good time more than

01:28:27.500 anything, but yeah.

01:28:28.560 Um, yeah, yeah, it's really gay and annoying, but, um, you know, we, there, there is a way 1.00

01:28:37.640 to fight back against it politically, but it's going to require probably like a multi-year

01:28:42.160 process.

01:28:42.580 Like it's not going to be anything you can do quickly.

01:28:44.660 So yeah.

01:28:46.860 And there's probably other like tactics, which I'm not going to describe, uh, that could be

01:28:51.780 implemented as well, but I'm not going to describe that on, on live stream.

01:28:55.260 Um, but yeah, like what, what else is that to kind of touch on?

01:29:01.400 You, is the, did you have anything on the agenda?

01:29:04.940 Uh, well, what are your, how's your lifting going?

01:29:07.940 Cause you got your power lifting going on.

01:29:09.580 I know you were, did you have good lifts?

01:29:13.600 What do you have?

01:29:14.080 Oh, my lifts, like they were good.

01:29:16.260 Like on total weight in Victoria, I came second to Sewell, but, um, and like, yes, I was going

01:29:24.160 to be like an Olympic powerlifter.

01:29:25.880 So it's like, you know, or not an Olympic lifter, not a powerlifter.

01:29:30.000 Like, uh, so he's pretty, he's pretty handy with lifting.

01:29:32.720 Um, but, um, but yeah, I didn't get the numbers exactly that I wanted because I just kind of

01:29:39.160 flew back from Sydney that morning and, uh, and I wasn't feeling a hundred.

01:29:43.320 So, but it's all right.

01:29:44.260 That was the warmup.

01:29:44.940 Like we got the national meet this coming weekend.

01:29:47.540 So I'm going to try and get some good sleep this week, good rest into my body and, um,

01:29:54.980 you know, be primed, uh, to put some, some good numbers up at nationals, but it's just,

01:29:59.200 it's a bit of fun, you know, it's not, it's not too serious, but it's good.

01:30:01.920 It's good to have that competitive element to, you know, drive yourself forward, but

01:30:06.100 I'm kind of like, I'm feeling kind of, you know, I've never been this heavy in my life.

01:30:10.080 Like I'm, you know, I'm feeling kind of a bit too beef caked, you know, I'm almost a

01:30:14.300 hundred kilos and, um, 220, 220 pounds.

01:30:19.600 Yeah.

01:30:20.080 Which is, you know, I'm less light.

01:30:23.580 I got broad, I got broad shoulders, but I'm like, I'm not, I'm not usually like more of

01:30:26.480 like a, I'm not the, you know, I'm more of a slender guy.

01:30:28.500 So, you know, I want to get back down to like.

01:30:31.920 You know, fighting weight, like 88 kilos, 90 kilos by the summertime.

01:30:35.580 So it's going to be a lot of, I'm doing a lot of running, uh, after next weekend and

01:30:40.540 we're just going to be eating steak and eggs, avoiding, you know, too much carbs and so on. 0.83

01:30:46.800 Um, and, uh, yeah, just putting in the fucking, the K's, uh, running wise and I'll just be 0.69

01:30:53.680 just focusing on, on fighting for the rest of the year, which I like better, but it's 0.93

01:30:58.160 not, I, I've never lifted except for like last winter and this winter, the only two time

01:31:03.020 periods of my life I've ever like done weightlifting in an even slightly serious way.

01:31:07.860 And I do feel like it's, it's been a nice experience.

01:31:10.740 Like it's been kind of fun.

01:31:12.920 I should have started when I was younger.

01:31:14.420 I'd be like a insane beast if I started it when I was younger, but it is what it is.

01:31:21.600 Yeah.

01:31:22.000 I only got back into lifting two and a bit years ago.

01:31:25.800 And yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's something that like, it, it's like a maintenance thing.

01:31:33.920 It's just something you got to do, like brushing your teeth or like, even like sometimes it's

01:31:37.920 more enjoyable than others, obviously, but like, it's, uh, the way we do things, which

01:31:43.400 I like is like, we lift through maybe in like March, April, we start kind of hybridizing.

01:31:50.980 We start bringing lifting in, mixing it with combat sports training, and then we kind of

01:31:57.260 do a bit of both.

01:31:58.700 And then by the time you get to like May, June, which is when winter starts here in Australia,

01:32:03.680 then we just stopped doing combat sports and just like lift all the way through into that

01:32:08.820 winter nationals.

01:32:09.840 And then we have a powerlifting comp.

01:32:11.440 And then after that, we just stop lifting and just, it's just, it's just boxing, kickboxing,

01:32:18.120 jujitsu, whatever the rest of the year, like no lifting.

01:32:20.980 Um, pretty much whatsoever.

01:32:22.260 And I won't pick up a foot.

01:32:23.840 I won't push a weight until like, you know, March next year.

01:32:28.140 And I like that. 0.99

01:32:29.240 I can't be fucked. 0.99

01:32:29.860 Like just focusing on lifting all year round, to be honest. 0.99

01:32:34.640 I, I have more passion for combat sports, but I do, I do both year round.

01:32:40.880 Honestly, I like, I like, you can, you can do both, but I know I like, I like this kind

01:32:45.520 of like seasonal method that we've got going on.

01:32:48.200 Um, that's kind of like how, how the org is structured with our, like, because summer

01:32:52.180 nationals will have like a fighting comp, winter nationals have like a lifting comp,

01:32:55.740 you know?

01:32:57.280 No, it is a, like, I mean, it's the correct, yeah.

01:32:59.840 You like, obviously in colder months, you tend to want to eat more and, and not, I don't

01:33:07.160 know, be running around outside and stuff like that.

01:33:09.620 And I mean, what, what is, but I mean, for you guys, it's what's cold. 0.98

01:33:14.020 What's fucking cold? 0.95

01:33:14.540 Yeah. 0.99

01:33:14.660 Yeah.

01:33:14.860 Exactly.

01:33:15.120 By your standards.

01:33:15.900 Like it doesn't even.

01:33:18.420 Yeah.

01:33:18.820 Like, uh, yeah.

01:33:19.960 If it's like less than 20 degrees Celsius, like that's cold.

01:33:25.040 Yeah.

01:33:25.580 In Australia.

01:33:27.380 So like for us, it's summer and it was, it was under 10 degrees Celsius.

01:33:35.100 Yeah.

01:33:36.100 It looks like the coldest day in winter here.

01:33:38.160 I mean, it shifts crazy.

01:33:39.380 So like, it goes from, you know, nine degrees in the morning to 35 in the afternoon.

01:33:44.840 So like it shifts very quickly, but yeah, but like I'm rocking shorts and a t-shirt

01:33:50.280 at nine degrees, like, and it's fine.

01:33:52.980 So yeah, I'm cold right now.

01:33:55.200 And it's like, I don't know, 18 degrees in here or something, but yeah, but, um, but

01:34:01.380 yeah, it's just, everything's obviously everything's different between the, it's

01:34:05.020 kind of the radical kind of polarity between Australia and Canada when it comes to, to 0.88

01:34:09.980 weather, but yeah, like in the Australian summer, you don't want to be fucking all sweaty 1.00

01:34:13.700 and shit, trying to like bench press and, you know, you fuck that shit. 0.99

01:34:17.920 Like you just want to like combat sports makes a lot more sense in the Australian summer. 1.00

01:34:23.500 So.

01:34:25.280 No, that's good.

01:34:26.260 I mean, I, I mean, we see, we see the stuff, everybody sees the stuff you guys put out on

01:34:32.860 your social media and yeah, obviously you've got a good formula going there.

01:34:37.840 And I mean, other people are starting, we're starting it.

01:34:40.560 We have our, uh, well, yeah, we have similar plans for how to structure, um, events.

01:34:46.980 So, I mean, I think you guys have cracked at least part of the formula for sure.

01:34:54.200 Um, other than that, I mean, we, we didn't get into, I mean, we touched on Cole Davis there

01:35:00.080 briefly, but I saw you were having fun with our, uh, Canadian, uh, news outlet, Rebel News

01:35:07.060 down there with Avi.

01:35:09.320 How's that going?

01:35:10.200 Yeah.

01:35:10.340 Well, I mean, it's interesting.

01:35:13.200 It was interesting, uh, thing because basically, so what happened to give context?

01:35:18.640 There was, uh, there's this church in Melbourne, this Catholic church.

01:35:21.720 That's this, this old cathedral.

01:35:23.400 It's quite, it's quite nice architecturally that's near the city, um, that a bunch of

01:35:29.560 Muslims surrounded for, I don't even know what the purpose was. 0.99

01:35:32.240 Right. 1.00

01:35:32.500 But some, they had some shit skin event where there were Alhamdulillah fucking posting around 1.00

01:35:39.900 this church and the video went viral and it offended a lot of people because, you know, 0.99

01:35:45.520 it was kind of, there's not that many Muslims in, in Melbourne, like in terms of when you break

01:35:49.400 down the, the demographics of like non-whites, it's not, and it's one of the smaller non-white

01:35:55.540 kind of groups.

01:35:56.220 There's a lot more, when you're looking for like Muslims in Australia, there's a lot more 0.99

01:35:58.860 in Sydney than in Melbourne.

01:36:00.320 And, you know, Australia doesn't have like the degree of like Islamic immigration that

01:36:05.000 like, say like a lot of these European countries have, for example, where like in Germany or

01:36:08.780 in Britain, you know, they're almost like the majority of like the non-whites. 1.00

01:36:13.380 So, um, but anyway, Australians still fucking hate Muslims and, uh, there's still a problem. 0.98

01:36:21.240 And, um, of course, and to see that was, uh, quite shocking to a lot of people. 0.99

01:36:27.780 And so I saw, cause we're kind of not really doing activism until like, we kind of just focused

01:36:34.140 on nationals.

01:36:34.800 So we've been, um, kind of chilling the last few weeks, but I saw that they were going to

01:36:42.300 put on some kind of anti-Muslim rally, you know, to go and march a bunch of, it was put

01:36:48.360 on by Christians, but to go basically march up a bunch of Aussies because it was like, 0.90

01:36:51.820 you know, an event put on by white people, like, um, and the crowd there were all either

01:36:57.180 Jewish or white, basically.

01:36:59.900 Um, I didn't really know all the details about this though, but there was just like an anti-Muslim

01:37:03.700 rally, they're going to march up to the plan was like this, like Islamic building in the

01:37:08.860 city.

01:37:09.760 Um, I can't remember which one and like do, do it to them kind of thing.

01:37:13.500 And I was like, okay, that sounds kind of interesting.

01:37:15.420 Maybe we could go down with some of the boys.

01:37:17.100 So like, uh, some of the boys came down with me and some other friends that aren't in the

01:37:21.920 org, but are like, you know, friends from like broader nationalist circles that are, uh,

01:37:27.220 Christians or whatever.

01:37:28.940 I was like, let's go down, let's go check it out.

01:37:30.800 And, um, you know, see what's going on on a Sunday afternoon.

01:37:36.460 So we headed down to this park in Melbourne to this event and we showed up and by the

01:37:41.740 way, the, the event organizer, the gentleman by the name of, uh, uh, Patterson, Nick Patterson.

01:37:48.660 Nick Patterson is like a Christian Zionist, but like during like the COVID era and so on, 0.99

01:37:53.280 he was very friendly with nationalists.

01:37:54.720 Like I've met him before he was amicable.

01:37:57.600 Um, but he, I didn't live in Melbourne in those days.

01:38:00.100 So he's on pretty good terms with like Blair and Tom and people like that.

01:38:04.740 And he reached out to, you know, our guys and said, oh, are you guys going to come down in

01:38:08.600 black block and like hijack the event?

01:38:10.640 And Tom told him no.

01:38:14.220 Um, but some of the boys will come down in plain clothes maybe, but that's it.

01:38:19.000 And Nick was like, okay, that's fine.

01:38:21.180 As long as you're not going to like, you obviously didn't want us to come make it like an NSN

01:38:25.000 rally.

01:38:25.320 And then, which is fair.

01:38:26.880 Like, I understand why you wouldn't want that.

01:38:28.320 Like that's not his thing.

01:38:30.140 Um, which wasn't our intention anyway.

01:38:33.200 So we went down there thinking, okay, well the organizers chill about us being here, even

01:38:37.440 though he's a bit of a Zyokuk, whatever.

01:38:39.960 We get there.

01:38:42.320 There's barely, there's like 120 people there.

01:38:44.960 It's really unimpressive.

01:38:45.760 Like half the people there just like zogged out boomer retards from Nick Patterson's, 0.97

01:38:51.180 you know, Christian Zionist church.

01:38:52.940 And the rest are just like a sordid sea of like faces that you always see at these like

01:38:57.640 Patriot protest events.

01:38:58.840 There's like this kind of freedom movement in Melbourne of people that were always protesting

01:39:02.520 COVID and protest, whatever the latest right-wing protest is about, they're there, you know,

01:39:08.820 and those people will recognize me.

01:39:10.540 And a lot of them were like coming up to me and saying hello and being friendly.

01:39:14.580 But the event itself was, was very cringe.

01:39:17.620 Like the, they had like a stage set up.

01:39:21.720 They said, we're not going to do the march anymore, probably because they didn't have

01:39:23.960 enough numbers. 0.91

01:39:25.940 Um, and they just had this stage set up in this park where they were playing like shitty, 0.96

01:39:30.580 like Protestant rock music. 0.97

01:39:32.700 That was just gross to listen to. 0.69

01:39:35.500 And then the speeches were just terrible.

01:39:37.540 Like Nick Patterson speech.

01:39:38.780 He barely even mentioned Islam.

01:39:40.960 He was just going on about how Christianity teaches us to love everyone.

01:39:44.980 And it's a religion of equality.

01:39:48.080 And, you know, we've got to stand with the Jews.

01:39:50.460 And then the other speeches were like full on, like Jewish Zionists, like just going on 1.00

01:39:55.740 about praise Israel, like blah, blah, blah.

01:39:58.740 Like just like Christian Zionist preaching, basically. 0.73

01:40:01.020 Like Islam was barely mentioned.

01:40:03.340 It was like an afterthought. 1.00

01:40:05.460 So I was like, this is fucking horrific. 0.98

01:40:08.880 Like, uh, like I was about to leave. 0.97

01:40:11.540 And as I'm about to grab the boys and go, you know what? 1.00

01:40:13.880 This is fucking gay. 1.00

01:40:14.780 Let's just go get a burger or something. 1.00

01:40:17.160 Then over walks this nigger, Cole Davis. 1.00

01:40:20.820 And obviously I've seen him online. 0.98

01:40:22.160 I've never spoken to him online.

01:40:23.640 I've never seen him in real life before, but I've seen his videos online because they

01:40:26.700 went viral a few times.

01:40:27.760 Um, and it's kind of like funny that there's this like six foot six Sudanese black guy who's,

01:40:34.500 um, you know, like a huge fan of, of me for some reason, you know, and it's just like

01:40:40.140 hail Hitler or whatever.

01:40:41.020 So it's kind of like a funny thing.

01:40:42.500 So he came over and he said, hi.

01:40:44.360 And I said, you know, how you going?

01:40:46.160 And then he said, oh, you know, I just got into an argument with Avi.

01:40:48.880 Like I called him a kike or something. 1.00

01:40:50.660 He called me a dickhead. 0.97

01:40:51.620 I was like, okay, well, that's, that's kind of funny. 0.96

01:40:53.780 And he's like, I'm going to go, I'm going to go like annoy Avi again.

01:40:57.600 And I was like, all right, that'll be funny.

01:40:59.180 And so some of the boys were like laughing and filming it, but I was like, I don't want 0.94

01:41:02.120 to be like associated with a nigger. 1.00

01:41:05.220 You know what I mean? 0.96

01:41:05.800 Even if he's a, like a, like a friendly nigger, I just, that's not my thing. 1.00

01:41:09.660 You know, I'm like the whole, I'm like the white nationalist guy, you know, and the boys 0.58

01:41:15.340 were being kind of cringed.

01:41:16.140 Some of the younger guys, like kind of giggling and like filming him, whatever. 0.82

01:41:18.780 So I just was like, these guys are being retarded, just kind of like walked off. 1.00

01:41:24.460 And then he went and talked to Avi.

01:41:25.720 I don't know what, you know, that would then ended up going viral where they had like a

01:41:29.500 argument or whatever.

01:41:30.580 And he had like the Sunrad t-shirt on.

01:41:34.080 But yeah, I was just kind of like standing on my own.

01:41:38.020 Then I see them kind of, Avi go and get Nick and then Nick come over and he's all upset

01:41:43.280 at, at Cole Davis and gets him to leave.

01:41:46.460 And it's like this whole commotion.

01:41:48.080 And then they come over to me, come over to the boys and they say like, oh, like why 0.96

01:41:51.840 did you send the nigger up, up there to cause problems? 1.00

01:41:56.280 And then they were like, we didn't, we didn't fucking send him. 0.99

01:41:58.840 He's not with us. 0.83

01:41:59.400 And so I stepped in and was explaining he's not with us.

01:42:03.120 And then Avi's like demanding that like Nick throw out like the, the evil Nazis from

01:42:09.100 the event now, even though we were like literally invited. 0.99

01:42:11.440 And so then Nick's, you know, starts being a faggot, tells me I got to leave. 1.00

01:42:18.780 And he doesn't even do it in a nice way. 0.99

01:42:20.760 He could be like, you know what, Joel, you know, this is turning into a bit of a commotion.

01:42:25.580 Would you guys mind leaving? 1.00

01:42:26.880 I would have said, you know what, Nick, this event's fucking gay. 1.00

01:42:29.100 And I was about to leave anyway. 1.00

01:42:30.240 And I would have left, but no, he's got to be like a dickhead about it. 0.96

01:42:33.120 So it turned into a bit of a commotion. 0.96

01:42:36.300 And that was that basically. 1.00

01:42:39.060 Like I was like, whatever, fuck this guy. 1.00

01:42:40.700 And we left. 1.00

01:42:42.480 He literally admitted that the Jews are his people and that he stands with the Jews against 1.00

01:42:47.240 his own people.

01:42:48.040 And I was like, I'm here for an anti-Islam rally.

01:42:51.660 Like, what is this? 1.00

01:42:52.300 This is like a fucking worship Yids rally. 1.00

01:42:55.140 Like, what the fuck is this? 1.00

01:42:56.120 So anyway, that whole exchange, I think, went viral online. 1.00

01:43:01.780 Everyone thought that the nigger in the Son and Rad t-shirt was funny. 1.00

01:43:06.200 But also, it made Avi Yemeni and Nick Patterson and someone look horrible. 0.96

01:43:10.680 And their comment sections are just full of, like, abuse.

01:43:12.880 Because everyone hates Avi Yemeni. 0.97

01:43:15.120 The Australian riot, like, three years ago, anti-Semitism was just like an afterthought.

01:43:19.900 It was like a fringe thing.

01:43:21.800 Now it's completely taken over. 1.00

01:43:23.100 Everyone fucking hates the Jews now. 0.99

01:43:24.600 And, like, a lot of mainstream right-wing, like, elected right-wing politicians in Australia, 1.00

01:43:28.760 they're going against the Israel lobby now.

01:43:30.380 Like, now it's becoming the position of the Australian right, but the most right-wing politicians

01:43:36.300 are basically all anti-Israel, which is, like, a really interesting development. 0.96

01:43:42.260 So, you know, the Jews are not in a good position in Australia because they really kind of put 1.00

01:43:46.720 themselves front and center as, like, with all these attacks on free speech.

01:43:52.060 And, you know, the best way to, you know, basically turn white people against you is to, like,

01:43:59.560 go after their freedom.

01:44:00.640 Like, you know, the whole idea of, like, the neocon formula was supposed to be that the

01:44:05.380 Jews and Israel are part of Western civilization and that we should ally with them against these, 1.00

01:44:10.060 like, you know, barbarian, like, Muslims who don't have the same respect for liberal democracy 1.00

01:44:16.340 or whatever the fuck, Judeo-Christian values, whatever the fuck, right? 0.99

01:44:19.640 But, well, they're ripping that formula up if they start going after free speech. 0.99

01:44:23.660 That's why we pressed them on that, why we did the Jews hate freedom rally, because 0.98

01:44:28.280 we didn't go down to the pro-Palestine rallies and pretend like we gave a fuck about Palestinians 0.99

01:44:34.100 to try and, like, mess with Jews. 0.99

01:44:36.520 Instead, we waited for Jews to attack whites, and we defended whites against Jews. 0.97

01:44:40.080 That's the message that patriots need to hear. 0.90

01:44:43.220 And that message is getting through.

01:44:45.840 And patriotic Australians are turning against the Jews in a big way very quickly.

01:44:49.640 Because of these events and broader trends internationally and with content online and all the rest of it.

01:44:56.400 And so, you know, Avi Yemeni and Nick Patterson thought, you know, we've got to remove the Nazi.

01:45:02.380 But actually, like, I have a better reputation on the Australian right than Avi Yemeni. 0.72

01:45:07.320 Like, actually, Avi Yemeni is more controversial to be associated with than me. 0.97

01:45:11.620 Even though I'm a fucking, like, neo-Nazi or whatever. 0.95

01:45:15.160 You know, that's what they call me, national socialist. 1.00

01:45:18.820 You know, because I'm a fucking nationalist. 0.99

01:45:20.760 I stand for the Australian people. 0.99

01:45:22.040 Whereas, like, Avi Yemeni is a foreign interloper. 1.00

01:45:25.040 And he's a scum. 1.00

01:45:26.600 Like, Avi Yemeni has no... 1.00

01:45:28.920 Like, even by Jewish standards. 0.93

01:45:30.200 Like, he's not, like, some well-spoken, you know, Ashkenazi Jew that kind of looks white, that can, like, blend in. 0.96

01:45:38.700 He's like some brown Mizrahi Jew that's obnoxious and, like, virulent. 1.00

01:45:43.540 And all he does is this, like, stupid, like, street content shit where he has, like, idiotic interviews. 1.00

01:45:49.760 And it's just really, like, low rent, low-class garbage. 1.00

01:45:55.260 And so, like, no one respects him. 0.98

01:45:59.340 Like, no one values his contributions.

01:46:01.620 And then, basically, yeah, he was getting rinsed in the comments.

01:46:06.320 He was trying to paint this as, like, I was somehow trying to come in and, like, subvert the event by sending a nigger in a Sonnenrad t-shirt to go talk to him. 1.00

01:46:16.080 Like, how does that even make any sense?

01:46:18.060 Like, what benefit would that accrue to me? 0.91

01:46:19.880 But all he did was make himself look ridiculous by turning this whole thing into, like, a Nazi hunter event. 0.94

01:46:25.900 And the whole event, like, Islam was now an afterthought. 0.98

01:46:28.920 Nothing was done about the Islam problem. 0.98

01:46:31.400 Now the problem is Zionists versus Nazis or something. 0.51

01:46:36.100 And which side are you on?

01:46:37.940 And the Patriots online largely are siding with the Nazis against the Zionists, which is a beautiful thing. 1.00

01:46:43.880 So Nazis, sorry, Avi has been copying incredible amounts of hate online.

01:46:47.420 And then Cole Davis came out, like, a day after and alleged that Avi Umeni paid him to, or said he was going to pay him, but then didn't pay him to conduct this stunt.

01:47:01.800 And there were text messages supplied from, like, some Zionist in, like, Britain that's connected to Avi Umeni in some way, putting him up to it.

01:47:13.660 You know, I don't know if that's, like, I don't know if that's real.

01:47:17.120 But regardless, Avi Umeni spent, like, three nights defending himself against these allegations and claiming he's a victim of anti-Semitism.

01:47:26.440 And he's just getting rinsed in the comments.

01:47:28.120 Nick Patterson had to, like, cancel the comments on his social media because he's just getting abused by everyone.

01:47:33.980 And what it's showing is this, which is that if you want to build a movement that's going to get anywhere on the right wing in Australia,

01:47:40.720 like, you know, outside of the mainstream, trying to be on the front foot on one of these patriotic issues,

01:47:47.100 you're not going to get anywhere if you go against the nationalists.

01:47:50.660 Like, you need us.

01:47:51.740 And if you go against us, you know, it's going nowhere. 0.99

01:47:56.980 You're going to have pathetic turnouts. 0.92

01:47:59.340 And these people are not good guardians of these issues. 0.99

01:48:01.600 They're not competent.

01:48:02.220 Like, it's, you know, it's a good thing in Australia.

01:48:04.480 It's not like in Britain where you've got, like, Tommy Robinson or whatever his real name is.

01:48:10.140 Some people say that he's, like, a crypto Jew.

01:48:13.280 There's some evidence for that.

01:48:14.340 I don't know if he is or if he's just, like, a Shabbos Goy. 0.99

01:48:16.520 But you've got, like, a Shabbos Goy or crypto Jew in Tommy Robinson who we all hate, right? 0.99

01:48:24.020 But Tommy Robinson has, like, charisma.

01:48:25.920 And he kind of appeals to, like, the English working class.

01:48:28.600 He kind of seems like one of them.

01:48:30.600 And they could imagine having a pint with him.

01:48:33.280 And so, therefore, they trust him. 1.00

01:48:36.160 And he's able to have a lot of influence, even though he's a piece of shit, 0.99

01:48:38.960 over the patriotic movement in Britain and then redirected in a pro-Zionist way 1.00

01:48:43.180 because, you know, the British patriots hate Muslims for good reason. 1.00

01:48:46.940 Muslims have committed horrible crimes against our people there. 1.00

01:48:51.340 And they're a massive problem. 0.99

01:48:53.900 So he's able to leverage that sentiment to then push a pro-Zionist message.

01:49:00.240 Or in Australia, we don't have someone like that.

01:49:02.320 You know, they're sending Avi Yemeni. 1.00

01:49:03.700 Like, average Australian white people don't relate to Avi Yemeni. 0.98

01:49:06.940 He's a brown freak. 1.00

01:49:08.000 He's a creep. 0.99

01:49:08.580 But they do relate to patriots like us.

01:49:15.480 They do relate to Blair Cottrell.

01:49:16.840 They do relate to people like me or whatever because we're them.

01:49:20.020 So it's very important that patriots compete with these Zionists 1.00

01:49:24.600 for control of the anti-Islam movement.

01:49:27.720 We don't let them take it over like it is in Britain.

01:49:31.040 And the British nationalists have to wrestle it back.

01:49:34.100 It's very important that we compete for it

01:49:35.640 because there's some people in the dissident right who say,

01:49:38.840 oh, we should ally with Muslims

01:49:39.980 and we should go easy on Muslims and blah, blah, blah. 0.60

01:49:43.460 This is the complete wrong strategy 0.83

01:49:44.980 because if you do that,

01:49:46.620 what you're doing is you're basically giving the anti-Islam issue to Zionists. 0.76

01:49:50.300 You're surrendering it to them and saying,

01:49:51.640 you guys have this issue.

01:49:52.820 This group of people that everyone hates,

01:49:55.480 you guys be the only ones that stand up against them.

01:49:57.540 And we're going to pretend like we like them 1.00

01:49:59.460 even though they're rapists and they're brown and disgusting invaders 1.00

01:50:03.300 that are totally incompatible with our society. 1.00

01:50:06.120 We're going to pretend that we like them 0.97

01:50:07.580 to try and 5D chess against Jews. 0.97

01:50:10.840 Meanwhile, you just hand Jews on a silver platter the narrative 1.00

01:50:13.180 and play into this stupid false dichotomy. 1.00

01:50:15.680 No, patriots have to control the anti-Islam movement. 1.00

01:50:18.780 That's why we went down there

01:50:19.680 because I wanted to have a foot in the door.

01:50:21.900 And what's become clear is that these Christians, 0.99

01:50:25.120 Zionists, like we need to create our own movement 1.00

01:50:28.560 separate from them and mog theirs,

01:50:32.000 which is what we're doing

01:50:32.740 because these people don't have the competency

01:50:36.100 to work in a big tent coalition,

01:50:39.000 patriotic coalition on the issue.

01:50:40.580 And we made that clear and blatant for everyone to see,

01:50:43.120 turned into a massive story.

01:50:44.360 It was a good,

01:50:44.880 it was therefore kind of an accidental win. 0.57

01:50:46.420 Like I just stood there at some gay Zionist event

01:50:49.580 and then they got upset at me.

01:50:50.600 I didn't really do anything,

01:50:51.640 but I managed to kind of expose

01:50:53.240 the whole thing, I think, to a lot of people

01:50:57.420 and to help redraw the lines a little bit

01:51:00.580 on the Australian right around the issue.

01:51:02.860 So it ended up being kind of like good,

01:51:06.040 like in a way like that,

01:51:07.200 that we showed up and that happened.

01:51:09.580 One of the interesting things about it,

01:51:11.100 at least from my perspective,

01:51:12.620 was that it was pretty obvious that,

01:51:15.980 like such a strange allegation was made

01:51:19.280 by, you know, Avi's camp,

01:51:22.060 which is you guys came down there

01:51:23.840 to try and make it about you,

01:51:25.900 which is obviously,

01:51:26.980 anybody observing it was like,

01:51:29.240 well, obviously that's not true.

01:51:30.580 You guys tried to make it about them,

01:51:32.960 about like Avi's camp tried to make it about you guys,

01:51:36.780 which is a strategy that I like to use all the time.

01:51:40.200 Like recently, I mean, this is kind of related,

01:51:42.700 but we had a hit piece on us

01:51:45.120 by the state broadcaster here.

01:51:48.300 And, you know, they try to make it out,

01:51:51.400 like basically they found out some,

01:51:54.000 you know, private gyms

01:51:55.140 that we were renting space in

01:51:56.620 and they tried to, you know,

01:51:58.480 strong arm these guys into,

01:52:00.360 you know, denouncing us

01:52:02.920 and saying, you know,

01:52:05.100 just making it about us.

01:52:06.380 And like, we were never trying to do that.

01:52:09.380 We weren't trying to use these gyms to promote us.

01:52:12.300 We weren't trying to, you know,

01:52:15.060 bring these people into our politics.

01:52:16.640 We were just engaging

01:52:17.720 in a business transaction with them.

01:52:19.260 And then they turn it around

01:52:20.860 and they make it out like,

01:52:21.940 you know, we're trying to use these people,

01:52:24.080 which obviously isn't the case.

01:52:25.860 So they, the enemy loves doing this.

01:52:28.400 They love doing this thing

01:52:29.180 where they, anything you're involved with,

01:52:30.820 it's you trying to make it about you

01:52:34.240 as opposed to just being supportive.

01:52:36.920 That obviously wasn't the case.

01:52:40.080 Plobiter Destroyer says,

01:52:41.040 Avi and many is nothing but a scheming, 0.99

01:52:42.660 swarthy, rat-like, hook-nosed, hunchback chew. 0.99

01:52:44.580 And yeah, obviously that's correct. 0.96

01:52:50.220 There's a rebel news tactic as well in general.

01:52:54.480 We have a similar thing going on right now in Canada.

01:52:57.780 There's a, an American Christian singer

01:53:00.980 who's in with the MAGA movement,

01:53:04.020 who's trying to do a tour in Canada.

01:53:06.120 And, um, they are trying to cancel

01:53:12.640 basically all of his shows, uh, you know,

01:53:15.060 restrict permits or get venues

01:53:17.700 to throw them out, blah, blah, blah.

01:53:19.780 And Rebel News is using this

01:53:21.500 to push anti-Islam rhetoric

01:53:23.580 or a better way of saying it

01:53:24.980 is pro-Zionist rhetoric.

01:53:26.600 Because basically what Antifa has done

01:53:28.580 is taken the Palestinian movement

01:53:30.620 and then used it to attack this Christian singer. 0.99

01:53:33.680 And so Rebel News is they're covering it

01:53:36.800 and basically calling these Antifa protesters

01:53:39.460 who are, it's so convoluted,

01:53:41.200 but Antifa protesters protesting

01:53:43.020 an American Christian singer

01:53:44.440 and basically equating it with,

01:53:46.640 they are Hamas attacking Christians in Canada.

01:53:51.380 Um, so this is why you should support Israel. 0.97

01:53:54.320 And, uh, I see the similarities between,

01:53:57.380 actually it's, it's very similar

01:53:58.900 because recently, um,

01:54:01.660 Muslims, similar to what they did in Melbourne, 1.00

01:54:03.480 they surrounded a, uh, cathedral in, uh, Montreal

01:54:07.200 and did a similar thing.

01:54:09.260 And it's just kind of, um,

01:54:12.320 it's just kind of mobilizing

01:54:15.660 the Christian right against Islam,

01:54:17.560 which they should be,

01:54:18.920 but for the right reasons.

01:54:20.740 Um, speaking of England as well,

01:54:22.880 I don't know if you saw,

01:54:23.780 one of the interesting developments here

01:54:25.700 is I don't know if you saw

01:54:26.600 some of the protests

01:54:27.540 that were going on today there.

01:54:29.760 Um, but the protests have taken

01:54:31.620 an interesting turn

01:54:32.680 where they're chanting re-migration

01:54:35.140 and send them back now.

01:54:37.680 Um, which is, it's not,

01:54:39.440 it's no longer an anti-Islam protest.

01:54:41.660 It's a pro-re-migration protest,

01:54:44.780 which is a,

01:54:45.600 uh, maybe a subtle,

01:54:47.480 but it's a,

01:54:48.560 it's a significant shift in the rhetoric.

01:54:50.620 And because Tommy has fled the country

01:54:53.040 because of that instant

01:54:54.120 where I don't know what he did,

01:54:55.540 uh, frankly,

01:54:56.600 but allegedly he knocked someone out

01:54:58.900 on the underground

01:54:59.500 and then ran from the country.

01:55:01.060 So, um, you know,

01:55:03.100 they've lost,

01:55:03.700 they've lost their figurehead

01:55:05.280 of, of these protests.

01:55:06.580 And now they're kind of moving

01:55:08.260 in a direction

01:55:08.940 that they weren't necessarily

01:55:11.240 going before.

01:55:11.940 So something to probably pay attention

01:55:14.900 to and watch how that develops.

01:55:16.480 But I think that's inevitable anyways.

01:55:18.260 Uh, the re-migration message

01:55:20.240 is, is being popularized everywhere.

01:55:23.380 Um, is that a,

01:55:25.240 is that a common,

01:55:26.080 uh, you know, phrase or term

01:55:28.900 that's thrown it out

01:55:29.620 in Australia now as well?

01:55:31.000 Because it's been popularized

01:55:32.160 a lot in Canada.

01:55:32.940 Obviously, you know,

01:55:34.180 it's pretty common

01:55:35.500 in the European context,

01:55:36.740 but it's starting to,

01:55:37.580 you know, come over here.

01:55:38.780 And, uh, Trump has used that term

01:55:41.240 a couple of times now.

01:55:42.940 Um, I don't know if it's,

01:55:44.640 is that something that's thrown

01:55:45.520 about in Australia?

01:55:48.260 Yeah, I mean, to an extent,

01:55:50.800 uh, what, what I thought is

01:55:52.460 I want to use this term

01:55:53.560 because I know Steve Laws,

01:55:55.400 there's a bit of a,

01:55:56.580 there's a bit of an occult battle

01:55:57.920 on the international right

01:56:00.080 between like the Steve Laws

01:56:02.300 faction, let's say,

01:56:03.380 and the Martin Selner faction

01:56:05.360 over what does re-migration mean?

01:56:08.780 And the Martin Selner,

01:56:11.220 you know, these are both guys

01:56:12.420 who I have good,

01:56:13.000 good relationships with.

01:56:14.500 I do side with Steve though

01:56:15.520 on this, uh, unsurprisingly,

01:56:17.680 perhaps in my radicalism

01:56:19.220 because the Martin Selner

01:56:20.860 position on re-migration

01:56:22.060 is that, well,

01:56:23.060 it kind of has this connotation

01:56:24.520 of voluntary repatriation,

01:56:26.440 you know, that we're going

01:56:27.420 to create incentive structures

01:56:29.380 that result in, you know,

01:56:32.920 immigrants voluntarily

01:56:33.640 making the decision,

01:56:34.860 like legal non-white immigrants 0.99

01:56:36.720 to voluntarily make the decision

01:56:38.040 to leave the West

01:56:38.840 and go back to their country 1.00

01:56:39.900 of origin or whatever.

01:56:40.780 Um, and, you know,

01:56:45.340 I'm, I'm skeptical

01:56:46.100 that this can really work

01:56:47.400 at scale, at the scale necessary,

01:56:49.740 number one.

01:56:50.680 And number two, um,

01:56:52.700 the, the more important point

01:56:55.940 is we just got to get 1.00

01:56:57.880 these motherfuckers out. 1.00

01:56:58.860 Like they need to go, 1.00

01:56:59.880 like they have no,

01:57:00.660 it kind of almost concedes

01:57:01.820 the point that legal immigrants 0.98

01:57:03.660 that are non-white 0.64

01:57:04.340 have the right to be here. 0.55

01:57:05.360 No, the, our nations

01:57:07.920 have the right to remove

01:57:09.880 alien elements from our society 0.91

01:57:13.260 if we so want to.

01:57:14.580 And we do, and we should want to,

01:57:16.140 to preserve, uh,

01:57:17.800 regain our homogeneity

01:57:19.080 and regain our,

01:57:19.940 our national identity.

01:57:21.600 So I think it's weak.

01:57:24.100 I think the, the strong position

01:57:26.220 is the Steve Law's position,

01:57:27.540 which is re-migration means

01:57:29.040 not just voluntary, you know,

01:57:32.220 programs for repatriation,

01:57:33.680 um, trying to incentivize

01:57:35.860 them to leave.

01:57:36.840 Obviously that's part of the plan

01:57:38.200 to do a certain amount of that

01:57:39.880 to start the process.

01:57:41.100 But ultimately we're taking

01:57:43.300 passports off these people

01:57:44.720 and we're sending them back

01:57:45.600 by force.

01:57:46.540 That ultimately is the end game

01:57:48.140 and re-migrate,

01:57:49.740 it's that, that kind of strong

01:57:50.700 view on re-migration I like.

01:57:52.140 And that's, you know,

01:57:53.020 I put forward a kind of,

01:57:54.640 just a kind of sketch,

01:57:55.720 like a re-migration plan sketch

01:57:57.400 for the White Australia Party

01:57:58.600 because obviously we're forming

01:57:59.440 a political party.

01:58:01.480 White Australia.org.

01:58:02.680 If you're an Australian, uh, citizen,

01:58:06.220 go sign up.

01:58:07.860 Uh, if you're not an Australian citizen,

01:58:08.880 you can't, you can't sign up

01:58:09.860 to the political party.

01:58:10.900 But if you're an Australian citizen,

01:58:12.220 go sign up.

01:58:13.440 WhiteAustralia.org.

01:58:14.580 Uh, sign up to be a supporter,

01:58:15.880 put your name down

01:58:16.620 and, uh, help us, um,

01:58:18.960 register this political party.

01:58:20.180 We need 1500 signatures

01:58:21.520 under Australian electoral law

01:58:23.680 to register.

01:58:24.240 We're very close to that number already.

01:58:26.020 We're not planning to

01:58:26.940 put the paperwork in

01:58:28.900 and launch the party properly

01:58:30.600 until probably the summertime

01:58:31.820 at the earliest.

01:58:33.380 Uh, but we want to build up that list

01:58:35.580 because, you know,

01:58:36.680 we want to have a strong list.

01:58:37.640 You want to blow way past

01:58:38.680 the minimum member requirements

01:58:41.000 to register.

01:58:43.080 Um, make sure that they can't

01:58:45.700 play funny business

01:58:46.540 and that, you know,

01:58:47.300 we just have too many members

01:58:48.340 for them to,

01:58:49.120 to not register us.

01:58:50.160 Um, and one of the key platforms

01:58:53.040 of the white Australia party

01:58:54.000 is going to be re-migration,

01:58:55.140 but re-migration,

01:58:56.320 I kind of put it in three phases.

01:58:58.820 You know, Steve Laws

01:58:59.580 had like a multi-phase plan

01:59:00.880 and that includes like,

01:59:03.000 um, you know,

01:59:05.140 dealing with illegal immigration.

01:59:06.600 In Britain, 0.69

01:59:07.320 illegal immigration

01:59:07.940 is a much bigger problem

01:59:08.820 than in Australia

01:59:09.800 because we don't really get

01:59:11.080 that much illegal immigration.

01:59:12.580 It's really all the illegal immigration 1.00

01:59:14.820 is just people coming in

01:59:16.660 on tourist visas or something

01:59:17.900 and then overstaying.

01:59:19.220 It's like that type of thing.

01:59:21.040 Um, or coming in on student visas

01:59:22.640 and overstaying or whatever,

01:59:23.680 but they can't like sneak in

01:59:25.360 because we've got border security

01:59:26.680 and we're an island

01:59:27.480 and in the middle of nowhere.

01:59:29.240 So they don't really sneak in

01:59:30.280 like they can in Britain

01:59:31.060 where they come in through

01:59:32.400 like the channel.

01:59:33.200 They, they sneak them in on trucks

01:59:34.620 from, uh, or boats

01:59:36.700 or whatever from, from France.

01:59:38.240 And they don't have good

01:59:39.000 border security platforms in place

01:59:41.420 partly because they're cucked

01:59:42.340 by, um, European regulations,

01:59:44.460 whatever.

01:59:45.000 It goes beyond that.

01:59:45.980 The French and English navies 1.00

01:59:47.420 are escorting these fucking dinghies. 1.00

01:59:49.320 Yeah. 1.00

01:59:49.340 Yeah.

01:59:50.340 We are actively facilitating it.

01:59:53.000 Um, but point is

01:59:56.140 illegal immigration is a problem 1.00

01:59:57.500 in Britain in a way

01:59:58.420 that it isn't here.

01:59:58.940 So that's, you know,

01:59:59.960 a large part of his platform

02:00:01.320 is things like that.

02:00:02.180 So I simplified it

02:00:03.500 because obviously

02:00:04.900 all illegal immigrants 0.56

02:00:05.780 should be deported. 0.97

02:00:06.960 Like that's, that's just,

02:00:08.560 it's not even remigration.

02:00:10.100 That's just enforcing law

02:00:11.660 that already exists.

02:00:12.460 But for the remigration, uh, 0.93

02:00:16.680 platform, how do we get people

02:00:18.120 who are legally here out?

02:00:19.680 I gave three phase process.

02:00:21.660 Phase one, basically cancel

02:00:24.280 all, um, temporary visa classes,

02:00:27.480 uh, for people who are citizens

02:00:30.460 of non, non-Western countries.

02:00:33.620 Just blanket cancel them,

02:00:35.640 give them like a 90 day grace period.

02:00:38.000 That's how long a tourist visa

02:00:39.220 lasts for in Australia 0.98

02:00:40.140 to get the fuck out. 0.99

02:00:41.700 If they don't get the fuck out 0.99

02:00:42.640 in 90 days, 1.00

02:00:43.580 we're going to take their shit. 1.00

02:00:46.260 We're going to seize their assets 1.00

02:00:47.280 and we're just going to send them

02:00:48.220 back by force.

02:00:49.080 So it's like, if you want,

02:00:50.180 if you don't want us doing 1.00

02:00:50.920 asset seizures, fuck off. 1.00

02:00:53.160 Um, that's already millions 1.00

02:00:54.940 of non-whites gone,

02:00:55.860 by the way, in Australia,

02:00:57.200 maybe 2.5 million

02:00:58.580 to 3 million non-whites,

02:00:59.660 which is a lot.

02:01:00.180 There's maybe about

02:01:00.860 eight to 9 million non-whites

02:01:03.120 in Australia.

02:01:03.960 So that's a very significant chunk gone.

02:01:06.180 Phase one, easy, done.

02:01:08.120 See you later.

02:01:10.140 Uh, there's also millions

02:01:12.080 that are on permanent residencies.

02:01:16.320 Um, so we, you know,

02:01:17.860 in phase two,

02:01:18.520 we'd be revoking that,

02:01:19.660 those, and also looking at people

02:01:22.520 who are dual citizens, um,

02:01:24.400 of Australia and a third world country.

02:01:26.080 I think we should get rid

02:01:26.800 of dual citizenship.

02:01:27.660 I don't believe in dual citizenship.

02:01:29.240 Maybe we could make an allowance

02:01:30.740 for, for people who are citizens

02:01:33.400 of Britain specifically

02:01:35.640 because it's like the host,

02:01:37.160 like the kind of, um,

02:01:39.320 the kind of,

02:01:40.140 mother country

02:01:40.860 or father country

02:01:41.640 to Australia.

02:01:43.080 But outside of like

02:01:44.380 that exception

02:01:45.220 or like an Anglosphere exception,

02:01:47.160 which you could say,

02:01:48.340 I wouldn't be making

02:01:49.440 any exceptions outside of that,

02:01:50.860 uh, at the absolute maximum.

02:01:53.080 I don't believe

02:01:53.480 in dual citizenship.

02:01:54.420 Either you're an Australian 1.00

02:01:55.160 or you're not.

02:01:55.740 And so we've got

02:01:56.520 the estimate

02:01:57.980 maybe between five

02:01:59.000 to six million dual citizens

02:02:00.060 in Australia.

02:02:00.540 Now, a bunch of them

02:02:01.500 are going to be white 0.97

02:02:02.500 dual citizens.

02:02:03.380 So obviously we're not,

02:02:04.000 we're not wanting

02:02:04.500 to deport them.

02:02:05.220 Uh, but if you're like,

02:02:06.940 say German citizen

02:02:10.300 and an Australian citizen,

02:02:11.520 I would say,

02:02:12.180 well, look,

02:02:13.660 either you renounce

02:02:14.320 your German citizenship

02:02:15.200 or we'll give you

02:02:17.140 a permanent residency

02:02:18.060 and you can keep

02:02:18.860 your German citizenship,

02:02:19.600 but you won't be

02:02:20.260 an Australian citizen.

02:02:21.160 You can still live here.

02:02:21.940 You can still work here.

02:02:22.860 Like we're not going

02:02:23.260 to kick you out, 0.88

02:02:23.940 but you're not a citizen anymore.

02:02:24.940 But when it comes

02:02:25.860 to people that are

02:02:26.500 dual citizens of,

02:02:27.700 with non-white countries,

02:02:28.920 we're just going 0.84

02:02:29.980 to take the Australian

02:02:30.640 passport away

02:02:31.260 and deport them 0.93

02:02:31.900 to whatever the 0.99

02:02:32.500 non-white country 0.96

02:02:33.280 passport they have is.

02:02:35.000 Simple, right?

02:02:36.140 Simple, easy, boom.

02:02:37.960 Phase two.

02:02:38.780 Now we've gotten rid

02:02:39.780 of already in those

02:02:41.080 two phases,

02:02:41.940 the majority of

02:02:43.140 non-whites in Australia.

02:02:45.100 Phase three is then

02:02:46.400 going into, um,

02:02:48.180 looking at people

02:02:48.740 who have been naturalized.

02:02:49.700 So if you've become

02:02:50.480 an Australian citizen,

02:02:52.140 but you weren't born one,

02:02:53.240 or if your parents

02:02:54.380 became an Australian citizen,

02:02:55.700 but weren't born one,

02:02:57.200 then you're going

02:02:57.620 to face a tribunal.

02:02:58.640 If it's determined

02:02:59.500 that you're of

02:03:00.260 non-white ancestry,

02:03:01.880 if you hail from,

02:03:03.820 you know,

02:03:04.120 the third world,

02:03:05.240 um, originally,

02:03:07.140 then what we're going

02:03:09.020 to do is we're going

02:03:10.120 to say you're going

02:03:11.300 to have to start

02:03:11.880 making reasonable

02:03:12.540 arrangements to get 0.94

02:03:13.460 the fuck out of the West.

02:03:14.820 You don't necessarily 0.99

02:03:15.640 have to go back

02:03:16.300 to your country of origin.

02:03:17.340 Like say you're Indian,

02:03:18.980 but you want to move 1.00

02:03:19.800 to fucking Korea 1.00

02:03:20.660 and Korea will take you. 1.00

02:03:21.900 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

02:03:23.060 You know, 0.99

02:03:23.200 you can go wherever 0.99

02:03:23.660 the fuck you want. 1.00

02:03:24.160 As long as it's not 1.00

02:03:24.920 another Western country,

02:03:25.920 just get out.

02:03:26.960 You've got to start

02:03:27.520 making reasonable

02:03:28.100 arrangements to immigrate

02:03:29.540 out of Australia

02:03:30.760 into back into

02:03:31.560 the non-white world. 0.85

02:03:32.860 And if you don't

02:03:33.960 make those arrangements

02:03:35.700 reasonably,

02:03:36.380 uh,

02:03:37.380 then we're going

02:03:37.820 to put you in a camp

02:03:38.620 and we're going 0.98

02:03:40.120 to forcibly deport you.

02:03:41.220 You know, 0.97

02:03:41.520 we're going to strip

02:03:41.980 your assets and so on.

02:03:43.060 And it's not going

02:03:43.700 to go well for you.

02:03:44.400 So that's basically

02:03:47.060 how we take Australia

02:03:48.200 back to being a white 0.93

02:03:49.020 country in three steps.

02:03:50.140 So like that was my

02:03:51.100 like re-migration plan

02:03:52.680 or whatever.

02:03:53.760 So I think we're

02:03:54.980 going to put that

02:03:55.400 forward.

02:03:55.620 That's obviously very

02:03:56.200 aggressive,

02:03:56.580 but it's good if people

02:03:57.660 use the term in like,

02:03:59.840 like less totalizing

02:04:00.880 ways that it becomes

02:04:01.680 normalized as a concept

02:04:02.680 because obviously

02:04:03.300 immigration restriction

02:04:04.300 isn't enough anymore.

02:04:05.120 There's too many of them

02:04:05.920 here.

02:04:06.160 like the right has to start

02:04:08.080 talking about getting

02:04:08.760 them out.

02:04:09.260 And like,

02:04:09.620 it's good that that is

02:04:11.560 becoming normalized,

02:04:12.540 particularly in European

02:04:13.280 politics.

02:04:14.660 Uh,

02:04:15.060 you know,

02:04:15.280 even Trump saying it,

02:04:16.200 although he didn't

02:04:16.520 really use it in the

02:04:17.260 same sense.

02:04:19.060 It is good.

02:04:20.400 Um,

02:04:21.120 but I don't think,

02:04:22.400 yeah,

02:04:22.600 I don't think voluntary

02:04:23.460 repatriation schemes are

02:04:25.360 going to really get rid of

02:04:26.800 a sizable amount of people

02:04:27.780 at all.

02:04:28.220 In fact,

02:04:28.500 they already have them

02:04:29.360 established in some

02:04:30.120 European countries and

02:04:31.220 very,

02:04:32.120 very limited success.

02:04:33.020 Um,

02:04:34.320 and they've done opinion

02:04:35.140 polling in Sweden.

02:04:36.720 You know,

02:04:37.240 if we were to pay you to,

02:04:39.180 to go back,

02:04:39.980 you know,

02:04:40.340 large amounts of money to

02:04:41.860 like hundreds of thousands

02:04:42.860 of dollars to go back,

02:04:43.780 would you go back?

02:04:44.740 And like 90 plus percent

02:04:46.900 of people say,

02:04:47.420 no,

02:04:47.620 I wouldn't go back.

02:04:48.660 So yeah,

02:04:50.320 the people that would take

02:04:51.320 that deal are probably

02:04:52.300 like also like the least

02:04:53.860 bad immigrants in many 1.00

02:04:55.020 respects. 0.58

02:04:55.440 Like they're probably the

02:04:56.240 kind of immigrants that

02:04:57.080 are,

02:04:57.360 um,

02:04:59.680 being the less,

02:05:00.500 the least subversive

02:05:01.800 and that are

02:05:02.840 causing the least amount

02:05:03.660 of problems in your

02:05:04.280 society,

02:05:04.720 like on,

02:05:05.400 on the whole and the

02:05:06.540 ones that want to stay

02:05:07.600 no matter if you pay

02:05:08.420 them.

02:05:09.700 So yeah,

02:05:10.960 I don't think,

02:05:11.920 I don't think that's

02:05:12.560 the way to go.

02:05:13.300 I think the way to go

02:05:14.100 is,

02:05:14.500 is,

02:05:14.800 is to push or the bad

02:05:18.220 guy option.

02:05:18.880 You have to be the bad

02:05:19.600 guy.

02:05:19.820 We are going to have

02:05:20.240 to,

02:05:20.900 we're going to have to

02:05:21.680 force them onto the

02:05:22.460 boats and onto the

02:05:23.160 planes and, 1.00

02:05:23.680 and fuck them off. 1.00

02:05:24.860 Uh, 1.00

02:05:25.380 and we're going to

02:05:26.420 have to be mean.

02:05:28.560 I think that it's,

02:05:29.480 it's reasonable to have

02:05:32.080 some of these policies

02:05:33.080 in place,

02:05:33.800 but expecting them to,

02:05:35.240 yeah,

02:05:35.600 be successful in removing

02:05:38.260 any significant,

02:05:39.180 you know,

02:05:39.660 portion of,

02:05:40.380 of invaders is,

02:05:42.000 it's just delusional.

02:05:43.840 Um,

02:05:44.280 for the reasons you

02:05:44.900 said,

02:05:45.280 like Indians are a 1.00

02:05:46.660 perfect example of

02:05:47.360 this in Canada.

02:05:48.140 If you even talk about,

02:05:49.600 um,

02:05:50.700 deporting them,

02:05:51.480 you'll immediately have,

02:05:52.540 like,

02:05:52.680 if you post something

02:05:53.600 like we've got to 0.93

02:05:54.100 deport these Indians on 1.00

02:05:55.180 Twitter, 0.99

02:05:55.580 you'll have 20 of them

02:05:56.720 saying, 1.00

02:05:57.020 I'll fuck, 1.00

02:05:57.560 I'll fucking kill you 1.00

02:05:58.500 bloody. 1.00

02:05:58.820 Like they'll,

02:05:59.920 they would rather die

02:06:00.920 than go back to 1.00

02:06:01.540 fucking India. 1.00

02:06:02.160 Like that's the, 1.00

02:06:03.260 for obvious reasons.

02:06:05.480 Um,

02:06:06.680 it's like the,

02:06:07.340 like sending them back

02:06:08.980 to India is worse than 0.99

02:06:10.200 a death sentence to,

02:06:11.360 to some of these people.

02:06:12.500 So the idea that you're

02:06:13.440 going to convince them

02:06:14.080 to leave by giving them

02:06:15.500 a plane ticket and some,

02:06:17.660 I don't know,

02:06:18.100 cash is,

02:06:18.940 uh,

02:06:19.600 delusional.

02:06:20.900 Um,

02:06:21.460 but the reason I,

02:06:22.120 I asked about the term

02:06:23.660 remigration specifically is

02:06:25.100 because I actually do

02:06:26.080 think it's a good term

02:06:27.020 because mass deportations

02:06:28.480 is like,

02:06:29.080 that's one element of

02:06:30.700 getting rid of these

02:06:31.760 people.

02:06:32.120 Like obviously,

02:06:33.140 yeah,

02:06:33.340 mass deportations are,

02:06:34.580 are required,

02:06:35.160 but that's typically the

02:06:36.040 term that's thrown around.

02:06:37.100 And I think that was

02:06:37.900 when Steve Laws was using

02:06:39.540 it,

02:06:39.880 that was one of the

02:06:40.660 objections that Fuentes

02:06:41.740 had to the term

02:06:43.080 remigration.

02:06:43.660 It's like,

02:06:44.020 why don't you just say

02:06:44.780 mass deportations?

02:06:46.100 It's like,

02:06:46.680 well,

02:06:46.880 because remigration is a 0.99

02:06:48.400 more all encompassing

02:06:49.400 term that,

02:06:50.040 you know,

02:06:51.300 um,

02:06:51.820 describes a wide array

02:06:53.400 of policies.

02:06:54.060 Like you can provide

02:06:54.960 incentives,

02:06:55.820 you know,

02:06:56.280 carrots and sticks,

02:06:57.160 basically you can do

02:06:58.120 both.

02:06:58.960 Yeah.

02:06:59.680 Yeah.

02:07:00.120 I agreed at first

02:07:01.960 with,

02:07:02.800 cause we always use

02:07:03.680 mass deportations a lot

02:07:05.060 like in our messaging

02:07:05.980 and in my personal

02:07:06.760 messaging.

02:07:07.580 And obviously it's a

02:07:08.500 good phrase cause it

02:07:09.140 is a more forceful

02:07:09.860 phrase,

02:07:10.220 but I have been

02:07:13.500 persuaded by Steve

02:07:14.620 Law's position that

02:07:15.780 we should do battle

02:07:16.880 for the meaning of the

02:07:17.840 term remigration,

02:07:18.620 that we should contest

02:07:20.900 its meaning.

02:07:21.260 Cause,

02:07:21.520 cause mass deportations

02:07:22.560 often also is really

02:07:23.800 bound up with illegal

02:07:24.900 immigration as well.

02:07:26.380 Like the connotation,

02:07:27.320 um,

02:07:29.140 or deporting criminals

02:07:30.180 or whatever,

02:07:30.780 as opposed to like

02:07:32.700 taking people who are

02:07:34.580 citizens of your country

02:07:35.540 and getting rid of them 0.99

02:07:36.960 because they're not 1.00

02:07:37.680 white.

02:07:37.960 Like remigration 1.00

02:07:39.500 has more capacity

02:07:42.280 to be interpreted

02:07:43.000 in that way.

02:07:44.300 Uh,

02:07:44.740 first of all,

02:07:45.300 and second of all,

02:07:45.880 we've got to contest

02:07:46.560 its meaning.

02:07:47.040 Like if we just allow

02:07:48.160 remigration to be 0.95

02:07:49.280 watered down in its

02:07:50.540 connotation,

02:07:51.120 it's a missed

02:07:51.560 opportunity.

02:07:52.000 If we can fill

02:07:53.500 the term with

02:07:54.980 like a plan that

02:07:56.100 I just described,

02:07:56.860 for example,

02:07:57.500 like a comprehensive

02:07:58.220 plan to get rid

02:07:59.320 of these people,

02:07:59.940 um,

02:08:01.360 then why would we

02:08:03.400 not take that

02:08:03.800 opportunity,

02:08:04.280 you know,

02:08:04.800 and just like

02:08:05.240 surrender the term.

02:08:06.080 It's similar to the

02:08:06.680 anti-Muslim thing

02:08:07.540 I was saying before,

02:08:08.160 like don't surrender

02:08:08.840 the anti-Muslim issue

02:08:09.760 to Zionists, 0.74

02:08:10.900 don't surrender 0.53

02:08:11.480 remigration to cucks,

02:08:13.380 you know,

02:08:13.580 we've got to take

02:08:14.120 control of it.

02:08:15.920 Yeah,

02:08:16.060 that was,

02:08:16.760 it's funny too,

02:08:17.400 because the way

02:08:18.200 that you just

02:08:18.760 laid out,

02:08:19.180 your plan is

02:08:19.660 similar to,

02:08:20.660 you know,

02:08:20.860 how I,

02:08:21.320 like people have

02:08:21.760 asked me,

02:08:22.080 like,

02:08:22.220 how would you

02:08:22.580 go about doing

02:08:23.140 it?

02:08:23.340 And I've said

02:08:23.960 similar things.

02:08:24.660 You,

02:08:24.840 obviously you start

02:08:26.000 with the illegals,

02:08:26.980 which in Canada,

02:08:28.120 similar to Australia,

02:08:29.400 illegal immigration

02:08:30.200 is not that big of an

02:08:31.280 issue.

02:08:31.600 However,

02:08:32.420 there are a

02:08:33.020 significant number

02:08:33.920 of people that

02:08:34.740 are now living

02:08:35.320 here illegally

02:08:35.940 because they've

02:08:36.620 overstayed their

02:08:37.240 visas.

02:08:38.140 So there's like a

02:08:38.780 probably anywhere

02:08:40.300 between 750,000

02:08:41.800 to 1.5 million

02:08:43.060 people in Canada

02:08:43.900 right now who are

02:08:45.000 living here illegally.

02:08:46.420 They didn't come

02:08:47.240 here illegally,

02:08:47.860 but they are now,

02:08:49.300 they've overstayed

02:08:50.020 their welcome and

02:08:50.700 they are now

02:08:51.760 illegally living here.

02:08:53.140 So like that's,

02:08:53.740 that's an obvious

02:08:54.400 one for the reasons

02:08:55.700 you stated.

02:08:56.360 Then you go after

02:08:57.280 the temporary

02:08:58.360 foreign students,

02:08:59.460 like just like,

02:09:00.140 no,

02:09:00.600 like,

02:09:00.980 you know,

02:09:01.180 you can,

02:09:01.700 you can finish

02:09:02.380 whatever you,

02:09:03.000 you paid your

02:09:03.620 tuition,

02:09:04.460 fine,

02:09:04.900 finish your term,

02:09:05.980 finish your,

02:09:06.980 whatever,

02:09:07.520 whatever length of

02:09:08.280 time you're allowed

02:09:08.720 to stay here and

02:09:09.580 then you're gone.

02:09:10.200 That's like 3

02:09:10.860 million people in

02:09:11.740 Canada,

02:09:12.060 by the way.

02:09:13.220 There's like 3

02:09:13.820 million temporary

02:09:14.680 student visas that

02:09:16.860 have been issued.

02:09:17.860 It's like even

02:09:18.300 right there,

02:09:18.940 just the illegals

02:09:19.920 and the,

02:09:20.660 the students,

02:09:22.040 that's like 10%

02:09:23.620 of our population.

02:09:24.620 It's like 4

02:09:25.340 million people.

02:09:26.580 Yeah.

02:09:27.120 It's crazy.

02:09:28.300 To talk about the

02:09:29.360 policies we're going

02:09:29.920 to have for our

02:09:30.360 party.

02:09:30.680 So that's like

02:09:31.100 upfront first

02:09:31.940 policy.

02:09:32.480 And we'll

02:09:32.680 obviously be

02:09:33.100 marketing that

02:09:33.840 not just about

02:09:35.240 keeping Australia

02:09:35.840 white,

02:09:36.200 but also about

02:09:36.880 solving the housing

02:09:37.580 crisis,

02:09:38.000 very similar to

02:09:38.900 what's happening

02:09:39.580 in Canada where

02:09:40.280 immigration is,

02:09:41.180 you know,

02:09:42.520 created a housing

02:09:43.240 bubble that's

02:09:43.780 made housing

02:09:44.620 radically unaffordable

02:09:45.500 for,

02:09:46.020 for everyone

02:09:47.340 basically.

02:09:48.960 Um,

02:09:49.500 and by design

02:09:50.480 to the benefit

02:09:51.600 of property

02:09:52.060 developers and,

02:09:53.140 and,

02:09:53.520 and so on.

02:09:55.060 Uh,

02:09:55.780 but the,

02:09:57.880 what that's married

02:09:58.920 with is,

02:10:00.180 you know,

02:10:00.260 we're national

02:10:00.660 socialists.

02:10:01.220 What that,

02:10:01.560 what that's married

02:10:02.200 with is the,

02:10:03.020 is the ideal of

02:10:03.940 seizing,

02:10:04.460 um,

02:10:05.820 the financial

02:10:07.180 system,

02:10:07.680 uh,

02:10:08.780 doing mass

02:10:09.560 mortgage forgiveness

02:10:10.480 for owner

02:10:11.060 occupiers and

02:10:12.820 creating a,

02:10:13.900 a,

02:10:14.660 a national bank

02:10:15.480 that issues

02:10:16.160 interest-free

02:10:17.460 mortgages to,

02:10:19.300 to young white

02:10:20.540 Australians trying 0.81

02:10:21.140 to get on the

02:10:21.500 property market

02:10:22.180 and then providing,

02:10:24.140 um,

02:10:25.500 basically discounts

02:10:26.260 on the principal,

02:10:27.300 uh,

02:10:27.740 the more children

02:10:28.300 that you have,

02:10:28.800 like what the

02:10:29.240 Nazis did.

02:10:29.900 So you have a

02:10:30.480 kid,

02:10:30.700 25% comes off

02:10:31.740 the principal,

02:10:32.200 um,

02:10:33.540 to,

02:10:33.760 to drive up

02:10:34.520 the birth rate

02:10:35.340 because obviously

02:10:36.340 if you deport a lot

02:10:37.020 of people,

02:10:37.380 they'll say,

02:10:37.700 oh,

02:10:37.820 but we need

02:10:38.220 the population.

02:10:38.820 Okay,

02:10:39.140 well then let's

02:10:39.620 start making 1.00

02:10:40.700 some fucking 1.00

02:10:41.220 white babies 1.00

02:10:42.060 then.

02:10:42.720 Okay,

02:10:43.120 well let's

02:10:43.500 incentivize that.

02:10:44.500 Also,

02:10:44.860 one of our other

02:10:45.460 policies is going

02:10:46.040 to be making,

02:10:47.980 um,

02:10:49.240 uh,

02:10:49.600 paying women 1.00

02:10:50.180 to be stay-at-home

02:10:50.760 mothers.

02:10:51.020 Like right now

02:10:51.500 in Australia,

02:10:51.900 there's a

02:10:52.340 childcare rebate

02:10:53.280 that's exorbitant.

02:10:54.300 So like if you're

02:10:54.720 a woman in the 0.96

02:10:55.320 workforce with young

02:10:56.020 children,

02:10:57.060 the taxpayer

02:10:57.540 basically pays

02:10:58.440 for childcare.

02:10:59.440 And then we've

02:11:00.040 got all these

02:11:01.060 scandals where

02:11:01.800 pedos are getting

02:11:02.500 into these childcare 1.00

02:11:03.280 centers and raping 1.00

02:11:04.180 the kids. 1.00

02:11:04.580 But even if

02:11:04.920 that's not

02:11:05.300 happening,

02:11:06.200 like your

02:11:07.540 kid shouldn't

02:11:07.880 be raised by 1.00

02:11:08.620 some fucking 1.00

02:11:09.140 immigrant on 1.00

02:11:09.880 $25 an hour

02:11:10.940 in the childcare

02:11:11.480 center.

02:11:12.580 It should be

02:11:13.180 raised by its

02:11:13.720 own mother.

02:11:14.520 And also when,

02:11:15.500 you know,

02:11:16.080 women are in 0.93

02:11:16.640 the workforce,

02:11:17.320 they're less

02:11:17.840 likely to have

02:11:18.400 more children.

02:11:18.840 If they're

02:11:19.220 stay-at-home

02:11:19.680 moms and they,

02:11:20.500 you can support

02:11:21.180 a family on

02:11:21.600 one income,

02:11:22.420 families are 0.98

02:11:22.760 going to make

02:11:23.040 the decision

02:11:23.420 to have more

02:11:23.880 children,

02:11:24.260 particularly if

02:11:24.760 it's taken

02:11:25.180 principal off

02:11:25.960 their mortgage.

02:11:27.320 So,

02:11:28.400 um,

02:11:29.420 that's going

02:11:30.420 to radically

02:11:30.860 incentivize people

02:11:31.820 and enable people

02:11:32.760 to have bigger

02:11:33.180 families because

02:11:33.560 they can buy

02:11:34.000 their own home,

02:11:34.620 they can own

02:11:35.100 it outright,

02:11:36.180 not be in

02:11:36.740 debt slavery.

02:11:38.280 And,

02:11:38.640 you know,

02:11:38.740 what we're going

02:11:39.040 to say to,

02:11:40.540 because obviously

02:11:41.000 if you deport

02:11:41.520 all these people,

02:11:42.240 house prices

02:11:42.720 are going to

02:11:43.020 crash because

02:11:43.700 demand is going

02:11:44.440 to be cut out.

02:11:45.100 So house price

02:11:45.780 is going to

02:11:46.060 come down.

02:11:46.600 So if people

02:11:47.080 have a mortgage

02:11:47.600 on a house

02:11:48.000 that they live

02:11:48.420 in,

02:11:48.960 we want to

02:11:49.520 forgive that

02:11:49.920 mortgage.

02:11:50.340 We don't want

02:11:50.680 people to be

02:11:51.140 stuck with

02:11:51.580 debts where

02:11:52.060 they,

02:11:52.300 you know,

02:11:52.560 they bought

02:11:52.920 a house for

02:11:53.360 a million dollars

02:11:54.000 and they got

02:11:54.360 into a huge

02:11:54.960 mortgage to

02:11:55.520 purchase that

02:11:56.220 house.

02:11:57.020 And then we

02:11:57.580 then,

02:11:57.860 you know,

02:11:58.700 crater the value

02:12:04.000 hoarding or 0.98

02:12:04.420 the non-whites, 0.95

02:12:06.360 they still got 0.98

02:12:06.920 this giant

02:12:07.320 mortgage.

02:12:08.400 So then they're

02:12:08.780 going to be

02:12:09.020 like,

02:12:09.200 well,

02:12:09.300 I don't want

02:12:09.640 mass deportations

02:12:10.560 because it will 1.00

02:12:10.900 fuck me over. 1.00

02:12:11.600 So it's like, 1.00

02:12:12.220 okay,

02:12:12.480 well,

02:12:12.940 we want to

02:12:13.380 come forgive

02:12:13.780 that mortgage.

02:12:14.300 We want to

02:12:14.580 liberate you

02:12:15.580 from debt

02:12:15.960 slavery.

02:12:17.500 When you go

02:12:18.140 and get a

02:12:18.540 mortgage from

02:12:19.040 a bank,

02:12:20.480 that money

02:12:21.180 didn't previously

02:12:22.080 exist.

02:12:22.900 It literally

02:12:23.540 is created

02:12:24.180 out of nothing

02:12:24.740 by banks

02:12:25.720 when they issue

02:12:26.440 a mortgage.

02:12:27.220 Like a lot of

02:12:27.480 people don't

02:12:27.740 know this.

02:12:28.820 Like when you

02:12:29.140 go to the

02:12:30.160 bank and you

02:12:30.640 say,

02:12:30.840 can I get a

02:12:31.440 loan for a

02:12:31.880 million dollars,

02:12:33.080 that million

02:12:33.420 dollars doesn't

02:12:33.820 exist.

02:12:34.760 It's literally

02:12:35.420 created in the

02:12:37.040 process of them

02:12:37.680 giving you the

02:12:38.220 money.

02:12:38.860 Like banks

02:12:39.160 literally have a

02:12:39.680 license to

02:12:40.080 print money as

02:12:40.900 debt.

02:12:42.420 So we can

02:12:44.560 just delete it.

02:12:45.560 We can literally

02:12:46.300 just delete the

02:12:46.940 debt.

02:12:47.360 Like it's

02:12:47.620 literally just

02:12:48.140 numbers on a

02:12:48.980 computer.

02:12:50.900 We need to

02:12:51.500 liberate our

02:12:51.960 people from

02:12:52.380 this debt

02:12:52.740 slavery.

02:12:53.820 And then that's

02:12:54.540 going to free

02:12:54.900 up so much

02:12:55.340 more wealth to

02:12:56.000 invest in other

02:12:57.480 areas of the

02:12:57.960 economy.

02:12:58.900 It's going to

02:12:59.440 drive,

02:13:00.360 it's going to

02:13:00.640 be incredible in

02:13:01.260 so many different

02:13:01.700 ways to

02:13:02.000 make these

02:13:03.360 mass deportations

02:13:04.200 going to be a

02:13:04.540 lot of jobs

02:13:05.080 because all

02:13:05.980 these companies

02:13:06.480 are going to

02:13:06.800 have parts of

02:13:08.480 their workforce

02:13:08.960 deported and

02:13:09.700 they're going to

02:13:10.000 need to start

02:13:10.620 paying better

02:13:11.800 wages to white 0.63

02:13:13.180 people to come

02:13:13.740 take over those

02:13:14.340 jobs.

02:13:15.080 It's going to

02:13:15.340 be a lot of

02:13:15.740 good paying

02:13:16.120 jobs going.

02:13:18.360 Your rent is

02:13:19.040 going to get a

02:13:19.460 lot cheaper.

02:13:20.160 You wouldn't

02:13:20.620 even need a

02:13:20.960 rent.

02:13:21.140 You can actually

02:13:21.720 own your own

02:13:22.280 home outright.

02:13:23.480 Your mortgage

02:13:23.860 will be gone

02:13:24.420 or it'll be

02:13:25.040 small.

02:13:26.500 And we're

02:13:27.440 going to rebuild

02:13:27.920 the middle

02:13:28.220 class so you

02:13:28.880 can have four or

02:13:30.100 five white

02:13:30.620 babies or

02:13:31.080 family and

02:13:31.640 then within a

02:13:32.160 generation we

02:13:33.520 can basically

02:13:34.960 replace all the

02:13:36.300 people that we

02:13:36.700 deported but with

02:13:37.440 white Australians.

02:13:39.100 And the country

02:13:39.500 will be like,

02:13:40.220 that's the

02:13:40.600 vision.

02:13:41.080 That's an

02:13:41.440 incredible vision

02:13:42.080 to sell to

02:13:42.520 people.

02:13:43.020 I think no

02:13:43.360 one has got a

02:13:43.880 vision like that

02:13:44.480 in politics of

02:13:45.200 how do you

02:13:45.740 actually fix

02:13:46.260 this.

02:13:46.480 that's what we're

02:13:48.640 going to be

02:13:48.860 putting forward

02:13:49.400 of a kind

02:13:49.860 of comprehensive

02:13:50.380 this is how

02:13:50.880 you fix the

02:13:52.100 housing issue

02:13:52.840 and fix the

02:13:54.980 fertility issue

02:13:56.260 that is kind

02:13:59.400 of the

02:13:59.740 justification

02:14:00.500 or driving

02:14:02.360 forces around

02:14:03.860 why the

02:14:04.780 mass immigration

02:14:06.520 housing Ponzi

02:14:07.600 scheme 1.00

02:14:08.060 bullshit just 1.00

02:14:09.420 keeps being 1.00

02:14:09.780 perpetuated within

02:14:10.620 Australian politics.

02:14:11.400 And I know

02:14:11.800 this exact same

02:14:12.520 thing is true

02:14:13.000 in Canada.

02:14:13.960 Yeah.

02:14:14.560 So.

02:14:16.400 Yeah, the

02:14:16.900 situation is

02:14:17.880 identical in

02:14:18.540 Canada.

02:14:20.880 And then what we

02:14:21.740 also say is

02:14:22.280 there's all these

02:14:22.820 boomers that have

02:14:23.440 investment properties

02:14:24.260 and a lot of

02:14:24.660 these investment

02:14:25.060 properties they took

02:14:25.720 out a loan and

02:14:26.520 then they charge

02:14:27.000 rent and the

02:14:28.080 rent is like

02:14:28.500 paying off the

02:14:29.040 loan.

02:14:30.960 We're going to

02:14:31.360 say to these

02:14:31.720 people, we're not

02:14:32.180 going to forgive

02:14:32.640 that.

02:14:32.880 We'll forgive the

02:14:33.380 mortgage for the

02:14:33.860 house that you

02:14:34.240 move into, but

02:14:34.740 we're not going to

02:14:35.120 forgive that

02:14:35.500 mortgage because

02:14:36.280 that's an

02:14:36.900 investment.

02:14:37.320 rather than

02:14:38.500 having the

02:14:38.820 situation where

02:14:39.780 people take

02:14:40.660 loans out from

02:14:41.440 banks who

02:14:41.960 create money out

02:14:42.640 of nothing, put

02:14:43.720 themselves in a

02:14:44.680 debt slavery

02:14:45.380 position and then

02:14:46.120 subcontract that

02:14:47.480 slavery on to some

02:14:48.520 young white person

02:14:49.280 who can't afford to

02:14:49.960 buy a house because

02:14:50.680 every house costs

02:14:51.460 like a million

02:14:51.880 dollars.

02:14:53.280 So then they can

02:14:54.060 then pay rent to

02:14:55.180 pay off someone

02:14:55.800 else's mortgage.

02:14:56.540 Like that's a 0.99

02:14:57.100 completely fucked up 0.99

02:14:57.960 system. 0.99

02:14:58.560 Why do we have a

02:14:59.100 society organized

02:14:59.980 like that?

02:15:01.100 What we're going to

02:15:01.540 say to these

02:15:01.960 boomers with their 0.88

02:15:02.660 investment properties

02:15:03.320 is you've got two

02:15:04.500 choices.

02:15:05.500 One is you still

02:15:06.620 owe that 1.00

02:15:06.940 fucking money and 1.00

02:15:07.680 you can pay it 1.00

02:15:08.180 off and that

02:15:08.640 asset is going to

02:15:09.280 radically depreciate

02:15:10.200 so you're going to 0.99

02:15:10.480 get fucked over or 1.00

02:15:11.320 you can sign that 1.00

02:15:12.040 those properties

02:15:12.720 over to someone

02:15:14.500 that's going to

02:15:14.880 move in.

02:15:15.660 So maybe you've

02:15:16.140 got someone in

02:15:16.560 your family that

02:15:17.100 doesn't own a

02:15:17.780 home like your

02:15:18.660 kids.

02:15:20.020 How about you

02:15:20.280 give them the

02:15:20.820 house and then

02:15:21.440 we'll get rid of

02:15:22.340 the debt.

02:15:23.420 So because then

02:15:23.800 it'll be there'll

02:15:24.360 be the owner

02:15:24.780 occupier so the

02:15:25.480 debt will get

02:15:26.280 wiped.

02:15:27.960 So we create a

02:15:28.780 situation where

02:15:29.380 everyone owns

02:15:29.960 their own home.

02:15:30.520 Like I want to

02:15:30.860 live in a society

02:15:31.580 not where people

02:15:32.140 are in debt to

02:15:33.140 live in a home or

02:15:33.800 where people are

02:15:34.220 paying rent.

02:15:34.700 I want average

02:15:35.960 normal working

02:15:36.700 people to have

02:15:38.260 a patch of dirt

02:15:39.120 that's theirs.

02:15:41.660 That's just

02:15:42.240 theirs.

02:15:43.400 And then that's

02:15:45.660 what freedom is.

02:15:47.080 That's what the

02:15:47.440 whole point of

02:15:47.860 Australia was 0.84

02:15:48.340 supposed to be.

02:15:48.960 It was supposed

02:15:49.360 to be the white 0.86

02:15:52.500 Australian dream.

02:15:54.180 The white working 0.98

02:15:55.140 man's paradise.

02:15:56.500 That's what it

02:15:57.120 was supposed to

02:15:57.660 be.

02:15:58.620 So that's what

02:16:00.120 we're going to be

02:16:00.520 selling.

02:16:03.740 Yeah I mean to

02:16:05.480 a certain extent

02:16:06.020 too like

02:16:06.580 I don't know

02:16:09.840 if it's quite

02:16:10.900 like this in

02:16:11.380 Australia but

02:16:11.800 in Canada we're

02:16:12.940 at the point

02:16:13.360 where it doesn't

02:16:13.940 matter how

02:16:15.700 much you say

02:16:16.580 like there's

02:16:17.000 people who've

02:16:17.460 been saving

02:16:17.980 for 15 years

02:16:19.060 to buy a

02:16:19.520 house and

02:16:20.320 they get

02:16:20.620 further away

02:16:21.500 every year

02:16:22.080 from being

02:16:22.760 able to

02:16:23.120 afford it.

02:16:24.020 Like you can

02:16:24.380 obviously if

02:16:25.560 you're working

02:16:26.260 you can only

02:16:26.780 save so much

02:16:27.560 a year and

02:16:28.580 you put that

02:16:29.020 towards a down

02:16:29.600 payment.

02:16:29.940 and the

02:16:32.100 amount that

02:16:33.040 the down

02:16:33.580 payment is

02:16:34.120 going up

02:16:34.620 by a year

02:16:36.060 is more

02:16:36.480 than they

02:16:36.780 can save.

02:16:38.620 Like it's

02:16:39.040 not like it's

02:16:39.780 simple numbers

02:16:40.260 like they're

02:16:40.580 never going to

02:16:41.020 be able to

02:16:41.400 afford a

02:16:41.800 house and

02:16:42.380 we had an

02:16:42.740 RCMP report

02:16:43.700 come out last

02:16:44.700 year that was

02:16:45.300 basically saying

02:16:46.040 like there's a

02:16:47.080 good chance

02:16:47.620 that this is

02:16:48.120 going to lead

02:16:48.620 to mass

02:16:50.080 civil unrest

02:16:51.540 because at

02:16:52.840 some point

02:16:53.480 no young

02:16:54.600 people are

02:16:55.000 going to be

02:16:55.240 able to afford

02:16:55.800 homes.

02:16:56.200 Like what do

02:16:56.460 you expect them

02:16:57.060 to do at

02:16:57.480 that point?

02:16:57.920 So this is

02:16:58.740 something that

02:16:59.120 was a concern

02:17:00.000 for the

02:17:00.300 federal police

02:17:00.920 force that

02:17:01.900 like this is

02:17:02.760 this is going

02:17:03.280 to be a

02:17:03.660 cause of

02:17:04.420 mass civil

02:17:06.160 unrest and

02:17:06.820 discontent.

02:17:08.420 So yeah,

02:17:09.260 at some point

02:17:10.100 they're going to

02:17:10.400 have to address

02:17:11.020 this issue and

02:17:11.840 they don't have

02:17:13.300 a plan for it.

02:17:14.000 They don't have

02:17:14.300 actually a

02:17:15.540 feasible plan

02:17:17.680 for it.

02:17:19.940 But I don't

02:17:20.580 know if they

02:17:20.960 actually are

02:17:21.620 expecting there

02:17:22.260 to be any

02:17:22.980 kind of response

02:17:23.740 to it.

02:17:25.280 Yeah,

02:17:25.780 well,

02:17:25.960 they've created

02:17:27.500 an economy

02:17:30.440 built around

02:17:31.820 rent extraction

02:17:33.860 where you

02:17:34.740 just keep

02:17:35.080 shoving 0.99

02:17:35.640 more immigrants

02:17:37.020 in to keep

02:17:37.940 impoverishing

02:17:38.720 the regular

02:17:40.220 population by

02:17:41.080 driving down

02:17:41.640 their wages

02:17:42.220 and driving

02:17:43.180 up property

02:17:44.580 values to

02:17:45.440 put them

02:17:46.120 on,

02:17:46.940 you know,

02:17:47.140 basically

02:17:47.400 degenerate

02:17:49.340 their socioeconomic

02:17:50.260 position iteratively

02:17:51.280 where a larger

02:17:52.100 and larger

02:17:52.420 portion of a

02:17:53.120 diminishing wage

02:17:54.080 is going

02:17:56.000 into basically

02:17:56.920 paying a rent

02:17:57.900 because when

02:17:58.380 you think about

02:17:59.060 it,

02:17:59.140 a mortgage

02:17:59.440 is basically

02:17:59.940 a rent,

02:18:00.440 like you're

02:18:00.740 paying a

02:18:01.100 rent to a

02:18:01.620 bank that

02:18:02.500 created money

02:18:03.960 out of nothing

02:18:04.620 in a computer

02:18:05.220 and now you're

02:18:06.040 paying rent

02:18:06.700 to them to

02:18:07.460 live in your

02:18:07.760 own house.

02:18:08.720 Like that's 1.00

02:18:09.180 fucked up 0.98

02:18:11.160 when you think 0.99

02:18:11.580 about it on a

02:18:13.180 fundamental level

02:18:13.880 that we live

02:18:14.340 in a society

02:18:14.820 like that.

02:18:16.000 And so

02:18:16.280 that's how

02:18:17.980 they've designed

02:18:18.580 the system

02:18:19.180 and all these

02:18:20.320 perverse incentives

02:18:21.040 are driving it

02:18:21.840 and it's like

02:18:22.340 there is actually

02:18:23.200 no non-radical

02:18:24.100 solution to this.

02:18:25.660 Like it's just

02:18:26.040 going to keep

02:18:26.540 you can't do

02:18:27.860 like some slight

02:18:28.580 modifications to

02:18:29.700 a system that

02:18:30.260 is fundamentally

02:18:31.120 flawed.

02:18:32.280 Only someone

02:18:33.160 that comes along

02:18:33.720 with a radical

02:18:34.500 comprehensive

02:18:35.280 solution and

02:18:36.640 vision

02:18:36.960 can fix this

02:18:38.840 and there

02:18:39.280 literally is no

02:18:40.060 one else in

02:18:40.480 politics that

02:18:41.080 has a plan

02:18:41.680 to fix this

02:18:42.780 and restore

02:18:43.440 the incredible

02:18:45.480 prosperity

02:18:46.140 and project

02:18:48.880 basically of

02:18:49.540 what Australia

02:18:50.040 and Canada

02:18:50.640 pretty similar

02:18:51.500 was supposed to

02:18:52.160 be.

02:18:52.980 You know

02:18:53.140 before World

02:18:53.700 War II in

02:18:54.060 Australia

02:18:54.340 we had a

02:18:55.260 bank that

02:18:56.340 was like a

02:18:57.200 state bank

02:18:57.640 run by the

02:18:58.020 government

02:18:58.240 that issued

02:18:58.960 mortgages.

02:18:59.420 In fact it

02:18:59.700 was illegal

02:19:00.140 in Australia

02:19:00.720 for commercial

02:19:01.860 banks to

02:19:02.400 issue mortgages

02:19:03.220 to people.

02:19:03.820 They could only

02:19:04.140 issue loans

02:19:04.700 to like

02:19:05.060 businesses

02:19:05.400 and stuff

02:19:05.880 like that.

02:19:06.960 You went

02:19:07.260 and got your

02:19:07.580 mortgage from

02:19:07.980 the state

02:19:08.300 bank and

02:19:08.620 you didn't

02:19:08.780 pay interest.

02:19:09.860 That's what

02:19:10.380 it was.

02:19:11.040 All we're

02:19:11.520 doing is

02:19:11.820 just restoring

02:19:12.600 what Australia

02:19:14.320 was supposed

02:19:14.740 to be

02:19:15.080 through

02:19:15.920 national

02:19:16.380 socialism.

02:19:17.280 But national

02:19:17.800 socialists are

02:19:18.480 the only ones

02:19:19.140 that have

02:19:19.600 a solution

02:19:20.180 to all of

02:19:21.680 these social

02:19:22.080 problems.

02:19:23.940 Meanwhile

02:19:24.280 the arguments

02:19:26.400 that are taking

02:19:27.020 place in

02:19:27.540 mainstream

02:19:27.840 politics are

02:19:28.700 utterly

02:19:29.520 frivolous

02:19:30.180 and utterly

02:19:31.220 unmeaningful

02:19:31.860 to changing

02:19:32.340 people's

02:19:33.860 reality.

02:19:35.880 Their

02:19:36.480 existential

02:19:37.560 reality as

02:19:38.480 people and

02:19:39.180 as a

02:19:39.540 livelihood.

02:19:40.300 That's why

02:19:40.780 I believe in

02:19:41.320 our movement.

02:19:41.740 A lot of

02:19:42.120 people say

02:19:42.640 this ain't

02:19:44.020 going to

02:19:44.280 work.

02:19:45.480 It's too

02:19:46.180 much.

02:19:47.520 I think

02:19:47.880 only the

02:19:49.420 radicalism can

02:19:50.180 work.

02:19:50.640 I think the

02:19:51.060 actual toned

02:19:52.380 down versions

02:19:53.040 can't work

02:19:53.660 precisely because

02:19:54.520 they don't

02:19:55.100 actually provide

02:19:56.000 comprehensive

02:19:57.140 solutions.

02:19:58.300 They provide

02:19:59.360 half solutions,

02:20:00.700 band-aids on

02:20:01.400 wounds.

02:20:02.340 But we've got

02:20:02.780 the cure.

02:20:03.160 you know,

02:20:05.600 so,

02:20:06.040 so,

02:20:06.060 yeah.

02:20:09.440 I mean,

02:20:09.580 obviously this

02:20:10.100 is the same

02:20:10.680 too,

02:20:11.200 but it's

02:20:11.640 funny.

02:20:12.300 More and

02:20:12.560 more people

02:20:12.880 are figuring

02:20:13.320 out in

02:20:13.800 Canada that

02:20:14.340 the

02:20:14.540 conservatives

02:20:14.940 are always

02:20:15.560 addressing the

02:20:16.520 symptoms of

02:20:17.040 the problem.

02:20:17.600 They were the

02:20:17.820 problem.

02:20:18.180 A big one

02:20:18.800 right now is

02:20:19.460 obviously crime

02:20:20.200 is out of

02:20:20.740 control.

02:20:21.420 Like,

02:20:22.000 similar to

02:20:23.340 Australia,

02:20:23.900 just like

02:20:24.300 blatant,

02:20:25.320 like home

02:20:25.840 invasions,

02:20:27.000 machete

02:20:27.440 attacks,

02:20:28.140 just,

02:20:28.880 you know,

02:20:29.100 car theft

02:20:29.800 rings,

02:20:30.860 smash and

02:20:32.720 grabs,

02:20:33.480 all this stuff.

02:20:34.280 And it's

02:20:34.780 the same

02:20:35.500 people every

02:20:36.040 time. 0.99

02:20:36.440 It's blacks 1.00

02:20:36.820 and browns.

02:20:37.640 Like,

02:20:37.760 there is no

02:20:38.360 crime problem.

02:20:39.200 There's a 0.73

02:20:39.460 black and

02:20:39.840 brown problem,

02:20:40.880 right?

02:20:41.720 And so

02:20:42.840 conservatives

02:20:43.440 have taken

02:20:44.300 this approach

02:20:44.960 of going

02:20:46.000 after the

02:20:46.560 liberal

02:20:46.780 government

02:20:47.340 by playing

02:20:49.240 into this

02:20:49.780 they're soft

02:20:50.520 on crime

02:20:51.120 thing.

02:20:52.120 And in

02:20:53.800 doing so,

02:20:54.620 obviously they're

02:20:55.560 attacking the

02:20:56.140 symptom of the

02:20:56.660 problem.

02:20:57.020 So they're

02:20:57.240 doing this

02:20:57.540 whole thing

02:20:57.860 of we need

02:20:58.120 bail reform,

02:20:59.400 we need

02:20:59.860 stronger

02:21:00.240 sentences,

02:21:01.420 we need

02:21:01.880 tougher

02:21:02.200 policing,

02:21:02.980 we need

02:21:03.140 all these

02:21:04.280 things,

02:21:04.560 right?

02:21:05.220 And the

02:21:05.800 response now

02:21:06.660 to them

02:21:07.060 that you'll

02:21:07.440 see consistently

02:21:08.320 in comment

02:21:08.980 sections or

02:21:09.580 just in

02:21:09.880 general is

02:21:10.600 it's not

02:21:11.320 a crime

02:21:11.700 problem,

02:21:12.120 it's a 0.91

02:21:12.320 black and

02:21:12.680 brown problem.

02:21:13.420 Like,

02:21:13.560 look at

02:21:13.840 the photos

02:21:14.500 of the

02:21:15.720 suspects in

02:21:16.640 every single

02:21:17.340 instance of

02:21:18.020 these cases

02:21:18.580 that you

02:21:19.380 guys are

02:21:19.920 kvetching

02:21:20.920 about and

02:21:21.780 it's the

02:21:22.100 same kinds

02:21:22.640 of people.

02:21:23.220 And so

02:21:23.360 the tone

02:21:25.240 of the

02:21:25.900 argument is

02:21:26.520 shifting

02:21:26.820 radically

02:21:27.280 from

02:21:27.820 let's 0.99

02:21:29.680 cock out 0.99

02:21:30.500 to let's

02:21:31.240 address the

02:21:31.860 real problem.

02:21:32.560 And I don't

02:21:33.360 know how

02:21:33.660 they intend

02:21:34.220 to continue

02:21:37.340 to subdue

02:21:38.180 this kind

02:21:40.300 of attitude

02:21:41.020 that's developing

02:21:41.780 among Canadians,

02:21:42.620 which is

02:21:43.600 the most racially

02:21:47.140 conscious Canadians

02:21:48.000 have probably been

02:21:49.020 in 60 plus

02:21:49.780 years.

02:21:50.180 it's happening

02:21:52.180 rapidly.

02:21:53.100 So, but

02:21:54.640 yeah, they

02:21:55.120 don't actually

02:21:55.640 have ways of

02:21:57.300 addressing the

02:21:58.160 problems.

02:21:59.540 It's just

02:22:00.040 more of the

02:22:01.060 let's, you

02:22:02.160 know, complain

02:22:02.720 about the

02:22:03.140 symptoms.

02:22:05.260 Yeah.

02:22:05.480 And the thing

02:22:06.280 is like what I

02:22:06.780 just proposed

02:22:07.340 there, if you

02:22:07.960 went to the

02:22:08.340 average right

02:22:08.800 winger and you

02:22:09.260 said, wouldn't

02:22:09.640 it be great if

02:22:10.120 we could do

02:22:10.480 this?

02:22:10.820 Most of them

02:22:11.120 would just

02:22:11.380 say, yeah,

02:22:11.780 it would be

02:22:12.120 great if we

02:22:12.500 could do

02:22:12.760 that.

02:22:12.960 But like,

02:22:14.300 you know, if

02:22:16.200 you try to do

02:22:16.740 that, like,

02:22:17.560 you know, the

02:22:18.200 government and

02:22:18.680 the powers that

02:22:19.200 be will try and

02:22:19.700 stop you. 0.99

02:22:20.220 Like the Jews 1.00

02:22:21.300 will probably try 1.00

02:22:21.820 and shoot you 1.00

02:22:22.400 or they'll put 1.00

02:22:22.820 you in jail

02:22:23.360 or whatever.

02:22:25.000 That's the

02:22:25.500 response.

02:22:26.000 The response

02:22:26.440 isn't like,

02:22:27.100 oh, no,

02:22:27.540 those ideas 1.00

02:22:28.380 suck. 1.00

02:22:28.920 I don't want 1.00

02:22:29.460 to live in a

02:22:30.780 comparative

02:22:31.140 paradise.

02:22:31.780 I'd rather live

02:22:32.320 in a degenerating 1.00

02:22:33.460 shit heap of a 1.00

02:22:34.260 country that 1.00

02:22:34.860 degenerates into 0.77

02:22:36.640 like third

02:22:37.140 world, you

02:22:38.620 know, tier

02:22:39.500 conditions.

02:22:40.240 No one is

02:22:41.360 saying that.

02:22:41.820 No one's 0.64

02:22:43.040 saying that.

02:22:44.080 So like

02:22:45.620 leftists have a

02:22:46.340 moral argument.

02:22:47.020 They say, well,

02:22:47.360 you can't want

02:22:48.280 what's good for

02:22:49.060 yourself and

02:22:49.560 for your own

02:22:49.940 people because

02:22:50.460 you've benefited

02:22:52.460 too much from

02:22:53.100 colonialism.

02:22:53.900 So you should

02:22:54.700 basically, like

02:22:55.540 leftists don't

02:22:56.080 pretend like

02:22:56.880 their policies are

02:22:58.480 going to make

02:22:58.820 things better for

02:22:59.400 white people.

02:23:00.100 They acknowledge

02:23:00.680 that they're

02:23:01.340 going to make

02:23:01.620 them worse for 0.99

02:23:02.200 white people, 0.97

02:23:02.700 but we deserve

02:23:03.360 it, right?

02:23:05.420 So, but with

02:23:06.360 everybody else,

02:23:06.980 because that's

02:23:07.380 really only a

02:23:08.080 minority of whites

02:23:08.900 that believe that 0.99

02:23:09.840 insane suicidal

02:23:11.680 ideology, it's

02:23:13.600 just a lack

02:23:14.040 of, you

02:23:16.760 know, a lack

02:23:17.380 of confrontation

02:23:17.900 with these

02:23:18.400 issues because

02:23:18.940 there's a lack

02:23:20.060 of a desire to

02:23:20.700 confront power

02:23:22.020 and to

02:23:23.200 confront whether

02:23:23.860 it be the

02:23:24.300 social penalties

02:23:25.060 or legal

02:23:26.060 penalties or

02:23:26.860 whatever of

02:23:27.480 having ambition.

02:23:29.980 But at the

02:23:30.700 same time, it's

02:23:31.840 the only actual

02:23:33.120 solution.

02:23:33.660 Like there's

02:23:34.280 no, there's

02:23:36.360 no like negotiated

02:23:37.320 compromise that

02:23:38.140 can work here.

02:23:38.760 Like too much

02:23:39.220 damage has been

02:23:40.120 done and is

02:23:40.620 going to be

02:23:41.120 done.

02:23:42.140 And so what

02:23:43.540 liberalism and

02:23:44.480 what conservatism

02:23:45.340 fundamentally is,

02:23:46.500 is, is an

02:23:47.880 attempt at

02:23:48.500 engaging your

02:23:49.540 enemy with

02:23:50.400 negotiation,

02:23:51.920 compromise, and

02:23:53.000 ultimately

02:23:53.360 capitulation.

02:23:56.640 And it

02:23:58.840 can't, you

02:23:59.200 can't, you

02:24:00.000 cannot negotiate

02:24:01.420 with an enemy

02:24:02.100 trying to

02:24:02.540 genocide you and 0.99

02:24:03.880 you cannot

02:24:04.240 capitulate your

02:24:05.140 way into

02:24:05.500 victory.

02:24:05.960 So the

02:24:10.420 only actual

02:24:10.980 solution here is

02:24:11.780 to fight.

02:24:12.460 Like that's, and

02:24:13.400 that's what our

02:24:14.180 view is, is

02:24:15.160 like, well, what

02:24:15.700 actually would be

02:24:16.800 the thing that we

02:24:18.460 would want, like

02:24:19.660 forget the

02:24:20.740 obstacles, like

02:24:21.920 what would be

02:24:22.420 the solution?

02:24:23.120 What would be

02:24:23.760 the ideal?

02:24:25.660 And okay, well,

02:24:27.640 that would

02:24:27.980 actually be the

02:24:28.760 best thing

02:24:29.140 possible.

02:24:30.220 That's a really

02:24:30.860 good message.

02:24:31.360 Why don't we

02:24:31.660 just like back

02:24:32.200 our own ideas

02:24:33.080 and go, let's

02:24:34.080 put it to the

02:24:34.580 people and build

02:24:35.880 the mass

02:24:36.200 movement and

02:24:37.260 go for it

02:24:38.200 rather than

02:24:39.020 just, you

02:24:40.880 know, conceding

02:24:41.600 the territory

02:24:42.260 and believing

02:24:42.880 that it's

02:24:43.440 over and

02:24:45.080 too much

02:24:45.440 damage has

02:24:45.940 been done

02:24:46.420 and so on

02:24:46.960 and so forth.

02:24:47.640 Like, no,

02:24:48.780 I'd rather, I'd

02:24:49.320 rather lose, like

02:24:50.660 I'd rather get 0.98

02:24:51.120 shot in the 1.00

02:24:51.600 head by like 0.97

02:24:52.200 some like

02:24:52.600 Mossad, like

02:24:54.280 assassin in

02:24:55.100 like 10 years 0.58

02:24:55.740 or something

02:24:56.160 or some

02:24:57.000 like Freemason

02:24:57.780 assassin or 1.00

02:24:58.460 some shit 1.00

02:24:58.880 than cock 1.00

02:25:01.060 out, you 0.99

02:25:01.580 know?

02:25:03.300 So why

02:25:05.800 do we go

02:25:06.100 for it?

02:25:06.720 It's more

02:25:07.020 fun this

02:25:07.520 way anyways.

02:25:10.620 All right.

02:25:11.760 I don't know

02:25:12.380 if anybody

02:25:12.900 has any

02:25:14.100 follow-ups.

02:25:14.540 I mean, we

02:25:14.860 would go for

02:25:15.300 two and a

02:25:15.680 half hours

02:25:16.240 there almost

02:25:16.740 now.

02:25:17.180 So I

02:25:17.920 don't know

02:25:18.200 if you,

02:25:18.900 it's getting

02:25:19.260 late on

02:25:20.260 my end.

02:25:20.780 So if

02:25:21.180 anybody has

02:25:21.840 any other

02:25:22.200 topics they

02:25:22.840 want to

02:25:23.060 bring up,

02:25:23.480 throw them 0.98

02:25:23.680 up in the

02:25:24.040 chat and

02:25:24.500 I'll present

02:25:25.620 them to

02:25:25.900 Joel.

02:25:26.240 And I

02:25:26.420 don't know

02:25:26.640 if you

02:25:26.880 have any

02:25:27.160 other

02:25:27.400 thoughts,

02:25:28.060 but.

02:25:28.240 No, I

02:25:29.840 mean, I

02:25:30.140 got to do

02:25:30.420 a stream

02:25:30.760 tonight as

02:25:32.640 well with

02:25:33.120 like Australian 0.99

02:25:34.020 Time with

02:25:34.620 like our

02:25:35.980 regular show

02:25:36.560 that we do

02:25:37.160 with Blair

02:25:37.800 and probably

02:25:38.100 Tom.

02:25:39.640 So.

02:25:40.580 Oh yeah, you

02:25:40.920 guys are all

02:25:41.680 back together

02:25:42.220 now too.

02:25:42.800 The non-association

02:25:44.880 order has been

02:25:45.580 done for a

02:25:46.480 while there.

02:25:47.100 So that's

02:25:47.640 good to see

02:25:48.240 it.

02:25:48.720 You guys

02:25:49.280 had like

02:25:49.720 total, it

02:25:50.400 seems like

02:25:50.720 total victory

02:25:51.340 on those

02:25:51.840 charges from

02:25:52.620 the Australia

02:25:53.240 day anyways.

02:25:54.840 The charges

02:25:55.240 back in

02:25:55.660 January.

02:25:56.120 More or less.

02:25:56.600 Yeah, more

02:25:57.060 or less.

02:25:57.360 I mean, I'm

02:25:57.860 still subject

02:25:59.660 to the

02:25:59.980 court over

02:26:00.420 like the

02:26:00.800 belt buckle,

02:26:01.480 which they

02:26:01.720 claim is a

02:26:02.280 Nazi symbol,

02:26:02.880 even though the

02:26:03.360 swastika was

02:26:04.080 removed.

02:26:06.420 Was it

02:26:06.900 saying the

02:26:07.220 Reichsadler?

02:26:08.340 Was it

02:26:08.600 a Hitler 0.93

02:26:08.920 youth belt?

02:26:09.660 I was

02:26:09.880 wearing a

02:26:10.140 Hitler 0.78

02:26:10.280 youth belt,

02:26:10.880 but the

02:26:11.240 swastika was

02:26:11.900 removed to

02:26:12.500 make it

02:26:12.800 legal.

02:26:14.380 And yeah,

02:26:16.640 they said

02:26:16.900 that the

02:26:17.140 Reichsadler

02:26:17.660 being on it

02:26:18.160 means that

02:26:18.520 it's still a

02:26:19.380 Nazi symbol

02:26:19.960 or something,

02:26:20.360 which is 0.77

02:26:20.560 ridiculous because

02:26:21.240 the Reichsadler, 0.99

02:26:22.000 in other words,

02:26:22.480 like the

02:26:22.740 eagle,

02:26:24.200 was used by

02:26:25.560 the Holy

02:26:25.900 Roman Empire

02:26:26.580 and the

02:26:27.160 Austrian

02:26:27.460 Empire and

02:26:28.000 the German

02:26:28.360 Empire and

02:26:28.860 the Prussian

02:26:29.220 Empire,

02:26:29.880 the Weimar

02:26:31.360 Republic,

02:26:31.940 even the

02:26:32.220 contemporary

02:26:32.580 Bundesrepublik.

02:26:33.400 Look at the

02:26:34.020 German soccer

02:26:34.860 jerseys.

02:26:35.360 There's a

02:26:35.720 Reichsadler on

02:26:36.460 it.

02:26:36.580 So it's

02:26:37.680 a symbol

02:26:38.300 of German

02:26:38.960 nationalism.

02:26:39.900 It's not

02:26:40.200 a symbol

02:26:41.260 of national

02:26:41.700 socialism,

02:26:42.200 but not

02:26:42.460 that it

02:26:42.880 should be

02:26:43.120 illegal.

02:26:43.600 We are

02:26:44.100 constitutionally

02:26:44.780 challenging

02:26:45.180 the law.

02:26:48.120 The

02:26:48.420 Australian

02:26:48.780 constitution

02:26:49.400 does not

02:26:50.040 allow you

02:26:50.480 to unilaterally

02:26:51.360 ban the

02:26:51.900 expression of

02:26:52.400 political

02:26:52.620 ideologies.

02:26:53.420 Quite the

02:26:53.840 contrary,

02:26:54.840 but nevertheless,

02:26:57.700 as a point

02:26:59.560 of fact,

02:27:00.000 it's also 0.94

02:27:00.380 ridiculous. 0.95

02:27:00.880 So that's 0.99

02:27:04.280 a long

02:27:04.780 drawn-out

02:27:05.220 court process,

02:27:06.020 but I have

02:27:07.640 no bail

02:27:08.480 conditions

02:27:09.000 basically around

02:27:09.760 that because

02:27:10.240 the magistrate

02:27:11.300 agreed that

02:27:12.020 that was an

02:27:13.960 event two

02:27:14.340 days later.

02:27:14.800 It was like

02:27:14.960 when I went

02:27:15.300 to go pick

02:27:15.740 the boys

02:27:16.140 up from

02:27:17.260 court,

02:27:17.740 I got

02:27:18.360 arrested

02:27:18.760 basically and

02:27:19.740 I was wearing

02:27:20.180 the belt at

02:27:20.600 the time and

02:27:21.040 they just

02:27:21.280 slapped that

02:27:21.780 charge on

02:27:22.220 me.

02:27:22.660 So we're

02:27:25.120 contesting that

02:27:25.780 but I'm not

02:27:27.560 worried about

02:27:28.000 it.

02:27:28.420 Even if I

02:27:29.140 was to be

02:27:29.460 found guilty,

02:27:30.280 there's no

02:27:31.520 chance I'm

02:27:32.000 going to go

02:27:32.240 to jail because

02:27:32.820 the prosecution

02:27:33.640 literally said

02:27:34.380 if you plead

02:27:34.900 guilty,

02:27:35.660 we'll agree to

02:27:36.980 you having no

02:27:37.480 punishment.

02:27:38.680 So they're

02:27:39.240 already willing

02:27:39.760 to concede

02:27:40.280 that.

02:27:41.460 So that shows

02:27:41.860 that they don't

02:27:42.240 have a very

02:27:42.660 strong case.

02:27:43.980 So I'm

02:27:44.520 not.

02:27:45.020 I feel

02:27:45.700 zero stress

02:27:46.500 about it.

02:27:47.940 That makes

02:27:48.780 it sound like

02:27:49.300 they're concerned

02:27:50.180 like they just

02:27:51.120 want you to

02:27:52.040 accept the

02:27:52.860 guilty charge

02:27:53.480 so that they

02:27:54.020 can stick

02:27:54.420 the law.

02:27:54.660 Yeah,

02:27:54.760 they took so

02:27:55.080 many L's,

02:27:55.600 they just want

02:27:55.840 a little W.

02:27:58.140 Is there a

02:28:00.240 larger concern

02:28:01.040 there as well

02:28:01.620 though that

02:28:02.000 they know that

02:28:03.120 that law is

02:28:03.760 unconstitutional

02:28:04.800 and that if it

02:28:05.440 keeps going up

02:28:06.160 it's probably

02:28:06.680 going to be

02:28:07.080 struck down

02:28:07.560 and then you

02:28:07.880 guys are

02:28:08.180 going to be

02:28:08.380 able to use

02:28:08.880 whatever symbols

02:28:09.540 you want?

02:28:11.460 Potentially,

02:28:12.000 but it's got

02:28:12.360 to go up

02:28:12.760 regardless because

02:28:13.580 Jacob Herson was

02:28:14.480 already saying

02:28:15.060 to a month

02:28:16.080 in prison

02:28:16.460 for the

02:28:17.720 salute which

02:28:18.280 is the same

02:28:18.920 legal argument

02:28:19.780 that's going

02:28:20.840 to go before

02:28:21.220 the county

02:28:21.620 court in

02:28:22.600 Victoria,

02:28:23.380 I think in

02:28:24.160 November.

02:28:25.620 I can't remember

02:28:26.340 the exact date

02:28:27.100 and that's,

02:28:28.860 you know,

02:28:29.360 the constitutional

02:28:29.880 argument is being

02:28:30.620 used there because

02:28:31.460 the factual

02:28:32.460 argument is kind

02:28:33.100 of irrelevant

02:28:33.500 because he

02:28:34.040 obviously kind

02:28:35.060 of did it.

02:28:35.640 so that'll end

02:28:38.700 up in the

02:28:39.020 high court,

02:28:39.820 win or lose.

02:28:41.160 So we will

02:28:41.720 end up in

02:28:42.100 the high court.

02:28:42.700 It's inevitable.

02:28:43.420 It's just a

02:28:43.820 matter of like

02:28:44.480 what legal

02:28:45.120 pathway exactly

02:28:46.000 but yeah,

02:28:49.040 I'm chilling.

02:28:49.680 Like they

02:28:51.220 want to have 0.99

02:28:51.480 some like gay 1.00

02:28:52.240 bullshit charge 1.00

02:28:53.340 that makes 1.00

02:28:53.880 them look stupid 1.00

02:28:54.660 on like a 1.00

02:28:55.860 spurious legal

02:28:56.520 argument where

02:28:57.140 they have no

02:28:57.860 limited prospects

02:28:59.240 of success

02:28:59.960 and conviction

02:29:00.540 and like no

02:29:01.160 prospects of

02:29:01.740 putting me in

02:29:02.180 prison.

02:29:02.500 waste your

02:29:04.600 time and

02:29:04.940 resources and

02:29:05.680 then when I

02:29:06.540 win,

02:29:07.160 we'll just send

02:29:07.620 you the bill.

02:29:09.780 Well,

02:29:10.360 yeah,

02:29:10.560 that was the

02:29:10.900 other thing

02:29:11.220 too is so

02:29:12.040 Tom is like

02:29:13.620 he's trying

02:29:14.140 to get his

02:29:17.760 legal fees

02:29:18.380 reimbursed

02:29:18.980 from that

02:29:19.980 whole.

02:29:20.580 Correct.

02:29:21.700 Yeah.

02:29:22.180 And is

02:29:23.080 that has

02:29:23.400 that developed

02:29:23.960 at all yet?

02:29:25.680 Oh,

02:29:26.160 it's still

02:29:26.620 it's still a

02:29:27.260 process.

02:29:28.640 Yeah,

02:29:28.760 the lawyer is

02:29:29.380 pushing for it.

02:29:30.520 So yeah,

02:29:31.660 because like 1.00

02:29:32.020 fuck them, 1.00

02:29:32.500 like, 1.00

02:29:32.700 well,

02:29:32.780 they're just

02:29:33.000 going to

02:29:33.200 drain money

02:29:34.740 out of the

02:29:35.180 org through

02:29:36.000 putting us

02:29:36.540 through the

02:29:36.980 court and

02:29:37.460 then just

02:29:37.860 dropping the

02:29:38.300 charges.

02:29:39.180 So then they

02:29:39.840 can just drain

02:29:40.620 tens and tens

02:29:42.180 of thousands

02:29:42.600 of dollars,

02:29:43.860 maybe hundreds

02:29:44.340 of thousands

02:29:44.700 of dollars out

02:29:45.360 of us on

02:29:45.820 frivolous court

02:29:46.480 cases which

02:29:47.100 have no

02:29:48.320 end.

02:29:50.620 So like no

02:29:52.000 ultimate conviction

02:29:52.780 that way.

02:29:53.020 They drop the

02:29:53.540 charges.

02:29:54.480 So,

02:29:55.440 you know,

02:29:56.320 under Australian

02:29:56.940 law,

02:29:58.600 they're liable.

02:29:59.720 They're liable.

02:30:00.280 So we should

02:30:00.700 go and take that

02:30:01.260 money back and

02:30:01.720 put it back

02:30:02.180 into the

02:30:02.620 organization

02:30:03.240 that was

02:30:04.680 taken out

02:30:05.200 in order to

02:30:05.660 pay for this

02:30:06.140 stuff. 1.00

02:30:06.740 So fuck 1.00

02:30:07.880 them. 1.00

02:30:10.220 Yeah,

02:30:10.400 exactly.

02:30:10.840 I mean,

02:30:11.160 this is the

02:30:11.860 same thing

02:30:12.240 everywhere as

02:30:12.840 well,

02:30:13.080 which is they'll

02:30:13.600 pursue these

02:30:14.280 very frivolous

02:30:15.100 charges knowing

02:30:15.920 that it's just

02:30:16.540 going to cost

02:30:17.580 you time and

02:30:18.340 money and effort

02:30:19.200 to deal with

02:30:19.940 the,

02:30:20.700 like,

02:30:20.800 they don't

02:30:21.060 actually expect

02:30:21.920 the vast

02:30:22.780 majority of

02:30:23.380 these things

02:30:23.900 to be,

02:30:24.960 you know,

02:30:26.200 for you to

02:30:26.540 be found

02:30:26.860 guilty of

02:30:27.320 them.

02:30:27.480 They just

02:30:27.680 want to

02:30:27.900 waste your

02:30:28.260 time and

02:30:28.580 money.

02:30:30.300 So,

02:30:30.780 yeah,

02:30:31.080 obviously,

02:30:31.740 like,

02:30:32.320 it's the

02:30:32.780 textbook

02:30:33.200 definition of

02:30:33.880 lawfare,

02:30:34.580 obviously.

02:30:35.360 But,

02:30:35.580 yeah,

02:30:36.100 if you can

02:30:36.500 recuperate,

02:30:37.320 in Canada,

02:30:38.180 it's very

02:30:38.580 difficult to

02:30:39.220 get stuff

02:30:39.660 like that.

02:30:40.360 I don't know

02:30:40.860 how it works

02:30:41.380 in Australia,

02:30:41.800 but things

02:30:42.780 like getting

02:30:44.940 like money

02:30:45.960 for like

02:30:49.560 slander or

02:30:50.740 damaged

02:30:51.200 reputation,

02:30:52.000 stuff like

02:30:52.280 that,

02:30:52.500 it's very

02:30:53.040 like even

02:30:53.740 getting your

02:30:54.120 legal fees

02:30:54.680 back is

02:30:55.140 very difficult.

02:30:57.000 So,

02:30:57.560 yeah,

02:30:57.740 it's a

02:30:58.460 real threat

02:31:00.540 in Canada

02:31:01.020 when they

02:31:01.420 start doing

02:31:01.980 the lawfare

02:31:03.400 attacks on

02:31:03.960 you.

02:31:04.160 I mean,

02:31:04.380 I suppose

02:31:04.800 it is

02:31:05.080 everywhere,

02:31:05.420 but in

02:31:06.180 America,

02:31:06.600 you can

02:31:07.060 actually get

02:31:07.820 like,

02:31:08.700 it's very

02:31:09.260 easy to

02:31:09.740 like somebody

02:31:10.160 slanders

02:31:10.660 you like

02:31:11.020 you can

02:31:11.280 get millions

02:31:11.920 of dollars

02:31:12.420 from them.

02:31:14.620 The way

02:31:15.240 their legal

02:31:15.620 system works

02:31:16.160 is much

02:31:16.540 more like

02:31:16.980 you better

02:31:17.580 be careful

02:31:18.160 when you

02:31:20.300 go after

02:31:20.660 somebody like

02:31:21.160 that because

02:31:21.560 they can

02:31:21.940 sue you

02:31:22.500 for significant

02:31:23.120 sums of

02:31:23.620 money.

02:31:25.180 Like we

02:31:26.020 saw them

02:31:26.420 do it.

02:31:26.740 I mean,

02:31:26.960 it didn't

02:31:27.240 actually pan

02:31:27.740 out with

02:31:28.000 anything,

02:31:28.300 but look

02:31:28.640 what they

02:31:28.880 did to

02:31:29.100 Patriot

02:31:29.540 Front.

02:31:29.960 Like $2.75

02:31:31.000 million or

02:31:32.040 whatever it

02:31:32.500 was because

02:31:33.200 they got

02:31:33.880 attacked by

02:31:34.500 an augur.

02:31:35.100 Now,

02:31:35.320 obviously,

02:31:35.960 that's not

02:31:36.580 going to

02:31:36.760 hold up and 0.88

02:31:37.260 they're never

02:31:37.520 going to get

02:31:37.840 that money,

02:31:38.600 but those

02:31:39.300 kinds of

02:31:39.840 sums of

02:31:40.280 money,

02:31:40.440 that would

02:31:40.720 never

02:31:40.980 happen in

02:31:41.480 Canada for

02:31:43.240 restitution for

02:31:44.520 those kinds

02:31:45.260 of incidents.

02:31:47.900 But yeah,

02:31:48.160 I don't know

02:31:48.460 what it's like

02:31:48.760 in Australia.

02:31:50.860 Yeah,

02:31:51.020 well,

02:31:51.340 the fact that

02:31:51.860 they pursued

02:31:52.740 a case and

02:31:54.380 they were

02:31:54.720 told,

02:31:55.440 if you pursue

02:31:56.380 this,

02:31:56.880 we're going to

02:31:57.360 pursue costs

02:31:58.220 because you have

02:31:59.460 no prospects

02:32:00.360 of success.

02:32:00.920 and they kept

02:32:01.660 pursuing it

02:32:02.280 and pursuing

02:32:02.700 it and

02:32:02.980 pursuing it

02:32:03.400 accruing

02:32:03.760 costs

02:32:04.280 after being

02:32:05.360 told that

02:32:06.000 and then

02:32:06.960 drop the

02:32:07.320 charges

02:32:07.840 means like

02:32:09.640 it's an

02:32:10.240 open and

02:32:10.640 shut legal

02:32:11.040 argument.

02:32:11.460 They got to

02:32:11.760 pay up

02:32:12.100 because we

02:32:12.620 were saying

02:32:12.980 like you're

02:32:13.520 not going

02:32:13.740 to win,

02:32:16.060 so stop

02:32:16.460 now or

02:32:17.280 you're accruing

02:32:19.360 legal costs

02:32:20.080 that you're

02:32:20.680 going to have

02:32:20.820 to pay.

02:32:21.640 And they're

02:32:21.780 warned in

02:32:22.520 the court

02:32:22.860 multiple times,

02:32:23.740 continued on,

02:32:24.400 then dropped

02:32:24.700 the charges

02:32:25.160 because they

02:32:25.480 had no

02:32:25.700 case.

02:32:25.980 So what's

02:32:27.560 going to be

02:32:27.820 their argument

02:32:28.300 as to why

02:32:28.980 they don't

02:32:29.180 have to pay

02:32:29.560 us?

02:32:30.160 It doesn't

02:32:30.640 make any

02:32:30.980 sense.

02:32:32.080 But yeah,

02:32:32.340 anyway,

02:32:32.740 so it's

02:32:34.160 all just

02:32:34.520 legal wrangling 0.99

02:32:35.380 and bullshit 0.99

02:32:35.860 part of the 0.99

02:32:36.840 game.

02:32:37.460 We've got a

02:32:37.760 lot of

02:32:37.920 active court

02:32:38.420 cases still,

02:32:40.380 but it's

02:32:41.900 all good.

02:32:42.320 It's all

02:32:42.560 gravy.

02:32:44.940 We've got

02:32:45.420 most of

02:32:46.060 those situations

02:32:46.660 are under

02:32:46.980 control and

02:32:47.480 we'll be

02:32:47.720 happy to

02:32:48.060 go to the

02:32:48.340 high court

02:32:48.820 over this

02:32:50.720 Nazi

02:32:50.940 simple thing.

02:32:51.580 We'll be

02:32:51.780 happy to go

02:32:52.160 to the high

02:32:52.520 court over

02:32:52.940 these new

02:32:53.300 hate speech

02:32:53.740 laws when

02:32:54.140 they try and

02:32:54.520 use them

02:32:54.780 against us.

02:32:55.980 Because we

02:32:56.840 are the

02:32:57.100 vanguard of

02:32:57.640 free speech,

02:32:58.220 we're happy

02:32:58.540 to pay the

02:32:59.780 costs,

02:33:02.380 whether it

02:33:03.180 be like

02:33:04.560 go to

02:33:04.860 jail or

02:33:06.180 organizing the

02:33:07.080 legal fight

02:33:07.480 or whatever

02:33:07.880 to take the

02:33:09.440 fight up to

02:33:09.960 the system

02:33:10.520 on the

02:33:13.360 key free

02:33:13.860 speech issues

02:33:14.320 of contemporary

02:33:14.880 Australian

02:33:15.280 politics.

02:33:16.020 It's an

02:33:16.580 important fight.

02:33:17.400 We're fighting

02:33:17.880 for the

02:33:19.380 collective

02:33:19.700 rights,

02:33:20.120 essentially,

02:33:20.540 of white

02:33:20.800 Australians

02:33:21.220 to be

02:33:22.520 able to

02:33:22.800 continue to

02:33:23.600 advocate for

02:33:24.620 their own

02:33:24.940 existential

02:33:25.280 interests.

02:33:25.980 If we

02:33:28.000 can get a

02:33:28.340 win,

02:33:28.940 be massive.

02:33:30.280 There's

02:33:30.680 another element

02:33:31.260 of it as

02:33:31.740 well.

02:33:32.320 I've been

02:33:32.880 following you

02:33:33.360 guys for

02:33:33.760 close to

02:33:34.780 three years

02:33:35.300 now anyways.

02:33:37.780 It seems,

02:33:38.780 at least from

02:33:39.340 what I've

02:33:39.840 seen,

02:33:40.060 that there's

02:33:40.280 been a

02:33:40.540 sizable

02:33:40.940 shift in

02:33:41.480 how the

02:33:41.740 Australian

02:33:42.180 public

02:33:42.620 perceives

02:33:43.080 you guys.

02:33:43.920 There's a

02:33:44.200 lot more

02:33:44.580 general

02:33:45.360 support.

02:33:46.220 Even if

02:33:46.620 it's the

02:33:47.160 variety of

02:33:48.160 like,

02:33:48.380 I don't

02:33:48.880 really like

02:33:49.360 these guys,

02:33:50.260 but why

02:33:52.240 should they

02:33:52.740 be punished

02:33:53.220 like this

02:33:53.760 or why

02:33:54.200 can't

02:33:54.520 they do

02:33:54.900 that?

02:33:55.900 There's

02:33:56.300 just

02:33:56.460 tacit

02:33:57.220 public

02:33:57.680 support.

02:33:59.180 Is that

02:34:00.600 something you

02:34:01.240 ...

02:34:01.340 Lately,

02:34:02.860 that's why

02:34:03.140 they banned

02:34:03.440 us from

02:34:03.660 social media

02:34:04.220 because this

02:34:04.800 year was

02:34:05.120 the takeoff

02:34:05.760 point and

02:34:06.420 they could

02:34:06.680 see, 1.00

02:34:07.960 oh shit, 1.00

02:34:08.520 if we don't 1.00

02:34:08.880 ban them, 0.91

02:34:10.400 we already are

02:34:11.080 banned from

02:34:11.500 most social

02:34:11.880 media,

02:34:12.140 but if we

02:34:12.400 don't ban

02:34:12.820 them now

02:34:13.200 from Twitter,

02:34:14.400 it's going

02:34:15.300 to explode.

02:34:15.900 We hit

02:34:18.900 that takeoff

02:34:19.440 point and

02:34:19.940 they sabotaged

02:34:21.840 it, but it

02:34:22.240 still saturated

02:34:23.400 the collective

02:34:23.900 consciousness of

02:34:25.060 the people.

02:34:28.200 This year,

02:34:30.740 unlike before,

02:34:31.720 every time I

02:34:32.240 go out in

02:34:33.060 Sydney or

02:34:33.640 Melbourne or

02:34:34.160 Brisbane in

02:34:34.700 the city or

02:34:36.640 in a high

02:34:37.700 populated area or

02:34:39.320 even when I'm

02:34:39.700 just down the

02:34:40.100 shops, people

02:34:41.080 come up to me

02:34:41.560 all the time,

02:34:42.020 Joel Davis,

02:34:42.780 I love what

02:34:43.200 you do.

02:34:44.540 Keep fighting.

02:34:45.120 Tom says the

02:34:46.220 same thing is

02:34:46.600 happening to

02:34:47.020 him, so

02:34:47.500 all the time

02:34:48.740 people are

02:34:49.560 coming up to

02:34:50.040 us.

02:34:52.760 It's never

02:34:53.260 been like this

02:34:53.740 before.

02:34:54.760 We've obviously

02:34:55.320 clearly reached

02:34:56.340 a certain

02:34:57.680 threshold and

02:35:01.120 there's a lot

02:35:01.620 of sympathy.

02:35:02.100 I'm sure a lot

02:35:02.480 of people

02:35:02.660 recognize us

02:35:03.240 who don't

02:35:03.520 like us,

02:35:03.960 but they

02:35:04.140 never have 0.99

02:35:04.420 the balls 0.99

02:35:04.780 to say 0.99

02:35:05.100 anything.

02:35:09.600 We've

02:35:10.000 made considerable

02:35:11.100 progress,

02:35:12.160 but this is

02:35:14.320 just the

02:35:14.600 beginning.

02:35:15.540 It's just

02:35:15.860 about implementing

02:35:17.120 our plans.

02:35:18.180 We spent a

02:35:18.440 lot of time

02:35:18.820 this year

02:35:19.140 planning the

02:35:19.700 next phase,

02:35:20.440 how we can

02:35:20.780 take things

02:35:21.260 up to the

02:35:21.580 next level

02:35:22.000 and the

02:35:22.280 events that

02:35:22.720 we're putting

02:35:23.060 on, how

02:35:23.460 we can

02:35:23.740 expand our

02:35:24.460 supporter pool,

02:35:25.900 how we can

02:35:26.260 build the

02:35:26.620 political party,

02:35:28.040 media strategy,

02:35:29.940 redirections,

02:35:30.740 because of the

02:35:31.980 censorship that

02:35:32.440 we're facing.

02:35:33.380 You can't even

02:35:34.020 send whiteaustralia.org

02:35:35.620 in a DM on

02:35:36.520 Twitter.

02:35:37.320 You can't post

02:35:38.000 it on Twitter.

02:35:38.500 It just won't

02:35:38.900 let you.

02:35:39.500 You can't even

02:35:40.180 put it in your

02:35:40.620 bio.

02:35:42.920 That's the

02:35:43.340 level of censorship

02:35:43.880 that we're under.

02:35:44.300 If you post

02:35:44.800 the NSN

02:35:45.300 edit on

02:35:45.720 Twitter now,

02:35:47.640 like a hype

02:35:48.100 edit, it will

02:35:49.080 just get taken

02:35:49.640 down a lot of

02:35:50.260 the time.

02:35:51.180 People try it

02:35:51.700 out yourself and

02:35:52.540 see what happens.

02:35:54.640 Patriotfront's

02:35:55.240 been dealing

02:35:55.580 with this for

02:35:56.040 some time,

02:35:56.600 but it's

02:35:57.060 crazy.

02:35:57.500 If they create

02:35:59.280 an account to

02:36:00.140 promote their

02:36:00.920 latest march

02:36:02.700 or event

02:36:04.320 or whatever,

02:36:05.160 those accounts

02:36:05.880 last maybe a

02:36:07.200 day and then

02:36:08.040 they're gone.

02:36:10.200 It's wild how

02:36:11.520 quickly they'll

02:36:12.080 shut it down.

02:36:12.560 Obviously,

02:36:13.720 you can't,

02:36:14.720 is it

02:36:15.120 Patriotfront.us?

02:36:16.900 You can't post

02:36:17.560 that anywhere or

02:36:18.800 their Telegram link.

02:36:20.260 If there's any

02:36:21.700 folks at home

02:36:22.720 who want to

02:36:23.120 create mirror

02:36:24.580 links that

02:36:26.280 redirect people

02:36:27.060 into our

02:36:28.040 website and

02:36:28.640 post them,

02:36:29.280 go ahead and

02:36:29.720 do that.

02:36:30.680 There's ways

02:36:31.040 around it,

02:36:31.600 but obviously

02:36:32.300 we're playing

02:36:32.980 on hard

02:36:33.360 mode,

02:36:33.880 but regardless,

02:36:35.260 despite,

02:36:36.460 like we're some

02:36:36.900 of the most

02:36:37.220 censored people

02:36:37.780 in the world,

02:36:38.260 but despite

02:36:39.100 that,

02:36:39.600 we're consistently

02:36:40.180 moving forward,

02:36:43.640 the organization

02:36:44.160 continues to

02:36:44.840 grow.

02:36:45.080 and when

02:36:46.600 we launch

02:36:47.100 the political

02:36:47.480 party,

02:36:48.060 we're going

02:36:49.020 to come back

02:36:49.440 on all the

02:36:49.800 social medias

02:36:50.520 and if they

02:36:51.560 ban us again,

02:36:52.280 now they're

02:36:52.600 interfering in

02:36:53.100 Australian

02:36:53.400 democracy.

02:36:54.000 Now they're

02:36:54.740 banning the

02:36:55.320 profiles of a

02:36:56.040 registered

02:36:56.320 Australian

02:36:56.740 political party

02:36:57.460 and so it's

02:36:58.260 a very weak

02:36:59.100 legal footing.

02:37:03.900 Yeah,

02:37:04.300 so that's a

02:37:06.540 criticism that

02:37:07.200 I'm sure you

02:37:07.660 guys have

02:37:07.920 gotten,

02:37:08.400 like,

02:37:09.100 why do a

02:37:11.060 political party?

02:37:12.040 Because it

02:37:12.380 affords you

02:37:12.880 political rights

02:37:13.780 as a group.

02:37:15.080 If you can,

02:37:16.500 I mean,

02:37:17.300 it's similar

02:37:18.100 in Canada

02:37:18.600 as well,

02:37:19.020 but yeah.

02:37:20.860 And also,

02:37:21.620 I've spoken to

02:37:22.260 a lot of

02:37:22.540 people who

02:37:22.920 work,

02:37:24.540 like,

02:37:25.020 you know,

02:37:27.400 Nick Fuentes

02:37:27.980 criticized us

02:37:28.860 because he

02:37:29.200 says,

02:37:29.540 you know,

02:37:29.780 you've got to

02:37:30.320 infiltrate the

02:37:31.000 system and

02:37:32.580 not be all

02:37:33.260 face out.

02:37:33.940 Well,

02:37:34.040 the thing is,

02:37:34.600 we have

02:37:35.440 infiltrated the

02:37:36.080 system.

02:37:36.960 There's a

02:37:37.180 whole bunch

02:37:37.560 of our

02:37:37.840 guys inside

02:37:38.700 the

02:37:39.320 conservative

02:37:39.820 political

02:37:40.480 system.

02:37:42.340 Like,

02:37:42.800 we are,

02:37:43.240 we do

02:37:43.580 both.

02:37:44.260 Like,

02:37:44.500 in America,

02:37:45.180 they've got

02:37:45.620 things like

02:37:46.020 Return to

02:37:46.560 the Land

02:37:47.020 and Patriot

02:37:47.660 Front and

02:37:48.120 the Groypers 0.98

02:37:48.700 and blah,

02:37:49.960 blah,

02:37:50.100 blah,

02:37:50.320 all these

02:37:50.580 things.

02:37:51.000 We do

02:37:51.440 all of

02:37:51.720 it in

02:37:52.380 one.

02:37:53.520 Like,

02:37:53.640 pretty much

02:37:54.100 every single

02:37:54.740 subgroup in

02:37:55.500 America that

02:37:55.980 exists,

02:37:56.860 like,

02:37:57.060 all of their

02:37:57.500 functions are

02:37:58.100 grouped into,

02:37:58.640 like,

02:37:58.700 one function

02:37:59.280 with us.

02:37:59.720 But a lot

02:38:00.000 of it is

02:38:00.300 not made

02:38:00.620 public for

02:38:02.080 different

02:38:02.340 reasons,

02:38:02.800 whatever.

02:38:03.740 We do

02:38:04.260 it all.

02:38:05.600 So,

02:38:06.140 we got guys

02:38:06.600 on the

02:38:06.840 inside.

02:38:07.560 We got

02:38:07.860 guys,

02:38:08.780 friendly,

02:38:09.340 friendly people

02:38:09.940 who work in

02:38:10.620 professional

02:38:11.120 politics.

02:38:11.660 We looked

02:38:12.220 at the

02:38:12.440 metrics,

02:38:12.940 like,

02:38:13.220 you guys

02:38:13.640 can get

02:38:13.920 people elected.

02:38:15.080 The way

02:38:15.440 that the

02:38:15.660 Australian

02:38:15.880 voting system

02:38:16.500 works,

02:38:16.940 there's

02:38:17.140 certain things

02:38:18.480 we can target

02:38:19.020 to get

02:38:19.340 people into

02:38:19.800 office.

02:38:21.220 If we just

02:38:21.660 get one

02:38:22.160 single person

02:38:22.820 into office,

02:38:24.280 one single

02:38:25.060 person into

02:38:25.540 office,

02:38:26.240 that's the

02:38:26.800 first Nazi 0.82

02:38:27.340 elected in

02:38:28.220 the English

02:38:28.940 speaking world

02:38:29.560 ever.

02:38:30.340 That's the

02:38:30.680 first Nazi 0.82

02:38:31.240 elected anywhere

02:38:32.040 in the world

02:38:32.520 in the 21st

02:38:33.200 century.

02:38:34.280 That completely

02:38:34.840 changes everything.

02:38:35.940 That person

02:38:36.560 will immediately

02:38:38.560 become one

02:38:40.220 of the top

02:38:41.060 three most

02:38:41.580 famous politicians

02:38:42.300 in Australia

02:38:42.880 overnight.

02:38:44.500 Just imagine

02:38:45.100 the implications

02:38:46.100 of something

02:38:46.540 like that.

02:38:48.880 There's a base

02:38:49.740 for it.

02:38:50.080 I posted a

02:38:51.380 poll about

02:38:53.440 between 17

02:38:55.440 and 18%

02:38:56.120 of the

02:38:56.580 Australian

02:38:56.880 population

02:38:57.500 when polled

02:38:57.960 two years

02:38:58.340 ago said

02:38:58.760 they would

02:38:58.980 support a

02:39:00.200 return to

02:39:01.020 a race-based

02:39:02.640 immigration

02:39:03.180 criteria,

02:39:04.440 i.e.

02:39:04.920 the white

02:39:05.200 Australia

02:39:05.500 policy.

02:39:07.760 There's a

02:39:09.320 lot of

02:39:09.580 racists in 0.98

02:39:10.160 Australia.

02:39:10.800 We just

02:39:11.320 have a

02:39:11.880 political

02:39:12.160 system that

02:39:12.840 is entirely

02:39:16.400 populated by

02:39:17.240 undynamic

02:39:18.000 boring forces

02:39:18.900 that don't

02:39:19.640 inspire very

02:39:20.420 much loyalty

02:39:21.580 or engagement

02:39:22.480 from the

02:39:22.880 broader

02:39:23.060 population.

02:39:24.360 That's the

02:39:25.100 distinction

02:39:25.360 with us.

02:39:26.280 We're more

02:39:26.680 interesting.

02:39:27.360 We have

02:39:28.360 more notoriety

02:39:29.660 than pretty 0.89

02:39:31.200 much most

02:39:31.580 Australian

02:39:31.900 politicians

02:39:32.340 already.

02:39:33.180 So imagine

02:39:36.260 what happens

02:39:36.580 when we

02:39:36.800 actually

02:39:37.020 enter the

02:39:37.420 game and

02:39:37.940 start playing

02:39:38.440 the game.

02:39:38.980 If we have

02:39:39.300 any kind

02:39:39.720 of degree

02:39:40.120 of success,

02:39:41.380 even the

02:39:41.860 smallest degree

02:39:42.540 of success,

02:39:43.120 it'll mean

02:39:44.060 incredibly more

02:39:45.240 than if anyone

02:39:45.980 else had that

02:39:46.540 small degree of

02:39:47.180 success because

02:39:48.020 of what it

02:39:49.260 would signify,

02:39:49.880 the legitimacy

02:39:50.400 it would confer

02:39:51.200 and the way in

02:39:52.440 which the

02:39:52.820 entire Australian

02:39:53.540 political system

02:39:54.380 would start to

02:39:55.340 basically become

02:39:56.700 this opposition

02:39:58.960 between us

02:40:00.300 and the rest

02:40:00.880 and where

02:40:01.860 do you fall

02:40:02.340 on that

02:40:03.060 kind of

02:40:03.360 us versus

02:40:03.800 them.

02:40:05.600 So we're

02:40:07.100 not just

02:40:07.440 starting a

02:40:07.860 political party

02:40:08.440 because of

02:40:09.540 legal protections.

02:40:10.580 Yes, that's

02:40:11.180 a strategic

02:40:11.760 benefit from

02:40:13.640 it, but we're

02:40:15.580 doing it because

02:40:16.120 we think that we

02:40:16.780 can actually

02:40:17.440 get some

02:40:18.840 people elected

02:40:19.500 and we

02:40:21.160 could very

02:40:22.300 effectively engage

02:40:23.380 with the political

02:40:23.880 process in that

02:40:24.620 way.

02:40:24.820 getting elected

02:40:27.540 is inherently

02:40:28.540 beneficial even

02:40:29.520 if you're not

02:40:29.920 able to win

02:40:30.680 government.

02:40:31.740 You can do a

02:40:32.760 lot with that.

02:40:34.900 I know it's a

02:40:37.240 similar system

02:40:37.780 obviously, but

02:40:38.340 just think about

02:40:40.060 being able to

02:40:40.720 introduce private

02:40:41.520 members' bills.

02:40:42.400 So if you have

02:40:42.820 one person in

02:40:43.480 government, then

02:40:44.080 they can start

02:40:44.680 introducing bills

02:40:45.760 and if they can

02:40:47.140 get them to the

02:40:47.700 point where

02:40:48.100 there's, even

02:40:49.080 if it's just

02:40:51.140 discussed, but

02:40:51.840 if it's voted

02:40:52.380 upon, think about

02:40:53.500 how easy it would

02:40:54.040 be.

02:40:54.160 Somebody can

02:40:55.140 introduce a

02:40:55.680 bill to

02:40:56.200 reduce, even

02:40:57.260 something as

02:40:57.880 simple as

02:40:58.280 reduce immigration

02:40:59.240 and then watch

02:41:00.500 as the, in

02:41:01.540 your case, the

02:41:02.180 liberals or

02:41:02.980 One Nation

02:41:03.980 votes against

02:41:04.680 it.

02:41:05.440 If they do,

02:41:06.920 either they

02:41:07.580 vote with it

02:41:08.380 and that is

02:41:09.220 a victory

02:41:10.280 because good,

02:41:11.240 they're bowing

02:41:12.980 to your policies

02:41:13.880 or if it fails

02:41:15.140 and they vote

02:41:15.620 against it,

02:41:16.200 well, they've

02:41:16.480 just exposed

02:41:17.020 themselves as

02:41:17.580 being...

02:41:17.880 We'll put in

02:41:18.420 a private

02:41:18.760 member's bill to

02:41:19.580 bring back the

02:41:20.080 death penalty for 0.95

02:41:20.880 child rapists and 1.00

02:41:22.020 then watch them 1.00

02:41:22.500 vote against it

02:41:23.260 and then see

02:41:24.720 what do the

02:41:25.320 Australian people

02:41:25.840 think of that.

02:41:27.400 You know, there's

02:41:27.900 a lot of, there's

02:41:28.720 things you can do.

02:41:29.320 Also, they have

02:41:30.240 parliamentary privilege

02:41:31.220 so you can

02:41:31.620 literally like Fed

02:41:32.580 post and like you

02:41:33.500 can't, you can

02:41:33.960 say anything and

02:41:35.300 no matter what

02:41:35.980 you say, you

02:41:37.040 can call, you

02:41:37.520 can call for like

02:41:38.240 outright violence

02:41:39.120 against anyone and

02:41:40.020 it's like totally

02:41:40.560 legal.

02:41:41.240 Like, you know,

02:41:42.040 that's how like

02:41:43.120 much free speech

02:41:44.240 you have when you

02:41:44.780 speak in parliament.

02:41:45.420 So imagine like a

02:41:47.460 Blair Cottrell or

02:41:48.500 Thomas Sewell or

02:41:49.520 Joel Davis or

02:41:50.560 Jacob Herson, like

02:41:52.480 parliamentary speech.

02:41:54.320 Like imagine how

02:41:55.120 viral that would be.

02:41:56.720 Yeah.

02:41:56.900 Imagine rolling up

02:41:57.700 to parliament with

02:41:58.420 like all the boys

02:41:59.080 in uniform, like,

02:42:00.340 you know, it would

02:42:01.800 be a completely

02:42:02.400 different aura.

02:42:03.260 It would have

02:42:03.960 radical implications

02:42:05.840 for the Australian

02:42:06.680 political psyche.

02:42:07.620 It would change

02:42:07.980 everything, just

02:42:08.580 getting literally

02:42:09.680 one person elected

02:42:10.660 at like state

02:42:11.480 government level or

02:42:12.260 something.

02:42:13.960 So, yeah, it's

02:42:16.020 worth doing.

02:42:16.640 Like it's, it's

02:42:17.220 worth doing for all

02:42:17.980 these reasons and

02:42:19.380 would be a huge

02:42:21.540 bellwether for the

02:42:22.300 whole white world.

02:42:22.960 Like if like

02:42:24.600 Nazism starts 0.97

02:42:26.220 becoming a

02:42:26.740 legitimate political

02:42:27.460 force in Australia,

02:42:28.360 it's like, what

02:42:28.920 does that mean?

02:42:30.040 Like that changes

02:42:31.280 everything, you

02:42:31.980 know, like fascism 1.00

02:42:34.020 is a black bitch. 1.00

02:42:34.900 Like what are you 1.00

02:42:35.200 going to do about

02:42:35.700 it?

02:42:35.880 Like it's real.

02:42:37.780 The other thing you

02:42:38.580 touched on there too

02:42:39.300 as well is, which

02:42:39.940 is that individually

02:42:40.820 these politicians are

02:42:41.980 not influential.

02:42:43.100 Somebody just

02:42:43.560 mentioned like, uh,

02:42:44.820 they said fairy

02:42:45.780 ratios, politicians

02:42:46.940 all the time.

02:42:47.540 Yeah.

02:42:47.900 Like they're, they're,

02:42:48.680 they're not

02:42:49.020 impressive as

02:42:49.920 individuals.

02:42:50.940 That's the reason

02:42:51.960 that they are

02:42:52.780 tacked, uh, tapped

02:42:54.180 to be politicians

02:42:55.140 is because they're

02:42:56.220 not, um, somebody

02:42:57.940 who has strong

02:42:58.680 opinions and is

02:43:00.000 going to fight

02:43:00.800 for things they

02:43:02.020 believe they pick

02:43:02.860 them because they're

02:43:03.680 going to do

02:43:03.980 whatever they're

02:43:04.400 told.

02:43:05.260 So typically with

02:43:06.520 the exception of

02:43:07.240 maybe some leaders

02:43:08.360 and some larger

02:43:10.220 figures, like you

02:43:11.260 can go look, um,

02:43:13.160 like my account

02:43:14.100 on Twitter is

02:43:15.160 way more

02:43:16.120 influential than

02:43:17.080 everybody in

02:43:18.220 parliament in

02:43:19.560 Canada, except

02:43:20.660 for maybe like, I

02:43:21.680 don't know, 10

02:43:22.440 to 20 likes of

02:43:23.980 the key figures

02:43:24.780 that the party

02:43:25.400 leaders and some

02:43:26.200 of their deputies

02:43:26.960 like none of

02:43:27.920 these people are

02:43:28.660 impressive in terms

02:43:29.980 of influence in

02:43:30.900 their own right.

02:43:31.640 And if they are,

02:43:32.700 it's because they

02:43:33.340 came from a career

02:43:34.240 in media before.

02:43:36.240 So like the one

02:43:37.480 is like Andrew

02:43:38.260 Lawton, for

02:43:39.160 example.

02:43:39.560 Yeah, he has

02:43:40.380 quite a large

02:43:41.300 following, but

02:43:41.920 that's because he

02:43:42.480 was in, you

02:43:43.260 know, Canadian

02:43:43.720 conservative media

02:43:44.700 for so long, um,

02:43:46.280 before he went

02:43:46.820 into politics.

02:43:47.380 So yeah, like

02:43:48.260 it's very easy to

02:43:50.000 start influencing

02:43:50.800 politics, um,

02:43:52.500 once you have any

02:43:53.540 kind of sizable

02:43:54.320 social media

02:43:54.960 account and

02:43:55.980 yeah, you can

02:43:56.440 create the United

02:43:58.420 Patriots front back

02:43:59.680 in the day, like

02:44:00.360 the old project,

02:44:01.620 like when their

02:44:03.360 their Facebook

02:44:04.200 account had more

02:44:05.080 followers than the

02:44:06.040 Liberal Party and

02:44:06.660 the Labour Party

02:44:07.160 combined.

02:44:08.540 Yeah.

02:44:09.400 So a good example

02:44:11.180 of this as well in

02:44:11.880 the Canadian context

02:44:12.860 is when the

02:44:13.980 trucker convoy

02:44:14.940 first started, um,

02:44:16.840 you know, obviously

02:44:17.380 they had to go fund

02:44:18.240 me and then a

02:44:18.800 give send go.

02:44:19.900 And within a

02:44:20.840 couple weeks

02:44:21.620 combined those

02:44:22.980 two, uh,

02:44:23.880 fundraising, uh,

02:44:25.200 events were over

02:44:25.860 $20 million.

02:44:27.200 That's more than

02:44:28.440 the liberal

02:44:29.160 conservative, all the

02:44:30.180 major parties

02:44:30.900 operating,

02:44:31.620 that's what they

02:44:32.060 get in donations

02:44:32.960 combined in a

02:44:34.140 year.

02:44:34.720 So like that one,

02:44:36.020 uh, you know,

02:44:37.020 political movement in

02:44:38.000 Canada was able to

02:44:38.960 easily out generate

02:44:40.040 the revenue of all

02:44:40.960 the political parties

02:44:41.840 in like a couple

02:44:42.460 weeks.

02:44:44.140 Like that's, that's

02:44:45.200 how easy it is to

02:44:46.180 compete with these

02:44:46.840 people when you have

02:44:47.620 something that, um,

02:44:49.320 appeals to the

02:44:49.940 common people.

02:44:50.400 So yeah, like if

02:44:52.120 you could just have a

02:44:52.920 legitimate movement or

02:44:53.740 have something that

02:44:54.500 actually, you know, is,

02:44:55.520 is appealing, like,

02:44:56.360 yeah, they're going to

02:44:56.880 be very successful.

02:44:57.760 And quite frankly,

02:44:59.400 the, like I, I

02:45:00.060 mentioned it earlier,

02:45:00.740 the Dominion

02:45:01.500 Society, this new 0.99

02:45:03.340 remigration nationalist

02:45:04.640 organization, they're

02:45:06.040 already, they're only a

02:45:07.320 couple of weeks old.

02:45:08.080 They already have, I

02:45:08.920 think, 500 plus

02:45:09.820 members, which is

02:45:10.720 pretty good.

02:45:11.920 Um, you know, it

02:45:13.720 doesn't sound like

02:45:14.560 much, but I mean, we've

02:45:15.580 talked about this before

02:45:16.380 too.

02:45:16.620 Like when you start

02:45:17.580 compounding this, like

02:45:18.460 you get 10,000 members

02:45:19.720 at $25 a pop, like

02:45:21.400 there you go.

02:45:22.740 Like you've, you've

02:45:23.400 got $250,000 as an

02:45:25.560 operating budget. 0.98

02:45:26.240 That's pretty fucking 0.97

02:45:26.940 good. 0.98

02:45:27.920 Like you can start

02:45:28.560 doing some damage with

02:45:29.580 that.

02:45:29.880 And then you compound

02:45:30.920 that, you get into,

02:45:31.880 you know, a hundred

02:45:33.100 thousand people joining

02:45:34.180 it.

02:45:34.420 And like, that's a,

02:45:35.120 that's a serious

02:45:36.080 political force in a

02:45:37.260 country like Canada,

02:45:38.740 maybe not in the

02:45:39.560 United States, but

02:45:40.440 certainly in Canada and

02:45:41.540 probably Australia as

02:45:42.680 well.

02:45:42.840 Right.

02:45:43.100 Like it doesn't take

02:45:43.720 much.

02:45:43.900 That's the thing about

02:45:44.520 the political system,

02:45:46.120 like in Australia, I

02:45:47.820 think 60, 70 years

02:45:50.040 ago, it was like 30%

02:45:51.320 of Australians were a 0.96

02:45:52.180 member of a political

02:45:53.180 party.

02:45:53.580 Now it's like less

02:45:55.740 than 1%.

02:45:56.420 Like no one's actually

02:45:57.820 a member of these

02:45:58.440 parties and they're

02:46:00.140 having to get all of

02:46:01.020 the campaign financing

02:46:03.960 basically from, you

02:46:06.180 know, big donors

02:46:06.860 therefore, you know,

02:46:07.980 and that's part of the

02:46:08.740 reason why they're so 1.00

02:46:09.460 fucked because they're 0.99

02:46:10.480 not actually like 0.99

02:46:11.280 responsive to their

02:46:12.160 members because their

02:46:12.680 members aren't in

02:46:14.060 democracy.

02:46:15.400 It's not about what

02:46:16.140 you vote for.

02:46:16.700 It's about what you

02:46:17.020 pay for.

02:46:17.700 That's how it works.

02:46:18.820 You got to buy your

02:46:19.700 own representation. 0.99

02:46:21.740 White people have no 1.00

02:46:22.520 representation because we 0.98

02:46:23.260 haven't bought it.

02:46:25.160 The Jews buy their own 1.00

02:46:26.320 representation.

02:46:27.060 The property lobby buys

02:46:27.980 their own representation.

02:46:29.180 That's why we have

02:46:30.540 mass immigration.

02:46:31.340 That's why Jews get 1.00

02:46:32.620 everything they want 1.00

02:46:33.240 because they fucking 1.00

02:46:35.260 pay for it. 1.00

02:46:36.120 We aren't paying for

02:46:36.900 it.

02:46:37.120 So we need to have a

02:46:37.960 vehicle where we can

02:46:38.840 pay for it, where white

02:46:39.700 Australians can pay to be 1.00

02:46:40.780 represented.

02:46:41.720 That's how it works,

02:46:43.060 right?

02:46:44.020 So, but most, like that

02:46:46.940 shows that there's just

02:46:47.760 no faith or concern in

02:46:49.540 the political system in

02:46:50.360 Australia because like no 0.96

02:46:51.360 one is a member of these

02:46:52.120 parties, no one is

02:46:53.160 represented by them.

02:46:54.140 No one's engaged with

02:46:54.980 them.

02:46:56.040 They can't, like the 0.86

02:46:57.080 liberals, the young

02:46:57.780 liberals, and that's the

02:47:01.080 big conservative party in

02:47:02.000 Australia, so-called

02:47:03.780 conservative, they're not

02:47:04.680 really, but you know,

02:47:06.420 their events are now

02:47:07.760 getting mugged by our

02:47:08.620 events.

02:47:10.180 And we're like a neo-Nazi

02:47:11.560 like street movement,

02:47:12.720 you know, that people are

02:47:15.080 too afraid to show up to

02:47:16.140 because of, you know, all

02:47:17.820 the different various

02:47:18.900 reasons.

02:47:19.280 If you get doxed, what

02:47:20.300 could happen to you in

02:47:21.220 your career and police

02:47:22.760 pressure and blah, blah,

02:47:23.620 blah.

02:47:24.220 We're still getting more

02:47:24.960 people to highly vetted 0.99

02:47:27.680 like Nazi fucking events 0.99

02:47:29.580 than like what the young 1.00

02:47:30.320 liberals can get.

02:47:31.420 Like, think about the

02:47:33.540 ramifications of that.

02:47:34.500 What happens when, like

02:47:36.920 two, three years, if we do

02:47:38.600 this properly, like we will

02:47:40.140 literally be bigger than

02:47:41.720 them on like the, like the

02:47:44.200 direct activist level.

02:47:45.380 Um, because most, like

02:47:47.800 the, almost everyone in

02:47:49.200 the population is

02:47:49.900 politically unengaged.

02:47:51.420 So we don't have to win

02:47:52.380 over.

02:47:52.900 This is the problem with

02:47:53.480 the infiltration method.

02:47:54.920 There's value to it, but

02:47:55.740 we don't have to win over

02:47:57.640 the existing chips on the

02:47:58.840 board.

02:48:00.040 We don't have to play with

02:48:01.080 the chips on the board.

02:48:02.100 It's like you're playing a

02:48:02.940 game of poker and you know

02:48:04.960 when you play a game of

02:48:05.600 poker, you, you give

02:48:06.400 everyone a few chips and

02:48:07.360 then in the, in the kind

02:48:08.800 of, in the box is a

02:48:09.920 shitload of chips that

02:48:10.780 aren't being used in the

02:48:11.800 game.

02:48:13.040 It's like, that's kind of

02:48:14.100 how politics is.

02:48:14.800 It's like, we're using

02:48:15.360 like 1% of the chips and

02:48:17.220 we've got a strategy rather

02:48:18.200 than trying to win this

02:48:19.000 poker game where the chips

02:48:20.440 are all against us and

02:48:21.420 we're trying to get their

02:48:22.080 chips back.

02:48:22.820 What if we just go to the

02:48:23.840 box and just get a huge 0.99

02:48:24.900 fucking handful more 0.99

02:48:25.920 chips and then start 1.00

02:48:26.720 fucking playing with that, 1.00

02:48:27.740 you know? 0.99

02:48:28.600 So that's our approach.

02:48:31.300 Like the, there's a

02:48:32.040 over a million white

02:48:33.240 millionaires in Australia.

02:48:34.160 There's plenty of 1.00

02:48:34.940 fucking donors out there. 1.00

02:48:35.920 There's plenty of like 1.00

02:48:36.820 disaffected racist young

02:48:38.060 people who want to engage

02:48:38.920 in politics.

02:48:39.420 There's plenty of, they

02:48:40.940 just don't know how to

02:48:41.440 find us because we've

02:48:42.360 been de-platformed.

02:48:43.340 Like if we were not

02:48:43.900 de-platformed, we'd

02:48:45.100 probably have like 20,000

02:48:46.440 members right now.

02:48:47.260 We'd be doing like, we'd

02:48:48.360 be taking over like the

02:48:49.280 CBD with rallies already

02:48:50.840 at this point because

02:48:52.180 whenever we do do

02:48:53.880 anything, it gets millions

02:48:55.000 of views.

02:48:55.640 The comment section is

02:48:56.420 full of how do I join

02:48:57.360 these guys and so on.

02:48:59.640 Like there's, there's an

02:49:00.420 appetite for it out there.

02:49:02.240 It's an access issue, but

02:49:03.580 if we can break that

02:49:04.860 siege and grow to a

02:49:06.420 certain level where it's

02:49:08.300 easy to get involved and

02:49:10.040 there's safety in numbers

02:49:11.240 because you feel like,

02:49:11.860 well, there's already

02:49:12.400 a thousand people, there's

02:49:13.580 already 10,000 people, I

02:49:15.340 can put my name down, I

02:49:16.420 can, I can show up to

02:49:17.360 things, you know, it's a

02:49:20.560 virtuous cycle.

02:49:21.360 People will believe in it

02:49:22.560 more, they'll be willing to

02:49:23.860 devote more effort to it and

02:49:25.100 so on and it can really

02:49:26.060 spiral.

02:49:26.740 So like that's, you know,

02:49:30.040 that's what we're aiming

02:49:30.500 to do.

02:49:30.860 We've built like the

02:49:31.580 foundations of something and

02:49:32.840 now it's just about adding

02:49:33.920 the next phases.

02:49:35.700 um, but what we have is

02:49:39.200 we're interesting, we're

02:49:42.020 dynamic, um, like in

02:49:44.980 Australian politics, there

02:49:46.400 is nothing going on that

02:49:47.700 is more interesting than

02:49:49.540 us.

02:49:50.720 And like even the

02:49:51.760 mainstream media in

02:49:52.520 Australia agrees, they 0.90

02:49:53.480 can't shut up about us.

02:49:54.720 Yeah, exactly.

02:49:55.720 But that, that's, that's

02:49:56.660 the, it's like the

02:49:59.480 understanding obviously that

02:50:00.800 controversy is our ally in

02:50:02.880 this fight is so important

02:50:04.160 and that, um, the fact

02:50:05.960 that the media can't help

02:50:06.980 themselves is, is great

02:50:08.780 for us.

02:50:09.760 Um, like you guys have

02:50:11.460 been obviously, uh, you

02:50:13.760 know, S tier when it comes

02:50:15.220 to, uh, using this tactic,

02:50:17.260 but like they just can't

02:50:18.320 help themselves get, if

02:50:19.520 they were smart, they 0.97

02:50:20.280 would just shut up and 0.98

02:50:21.200 not talk about you at all,

02:50:22.360 but they just, they just

02:50:23.360 can't help themselves.

02:50:24.660 And I don't even know at

02:50:25.740 this point if the

02:50:26.520 mainstream media took that

02:50:28.080 approach, if it would

02:50:28.720 matter because, um,

02:50:30.820 frankly, a lot of the

02:50:31.680 promotion you guys get is

02:50:33.120 because your enemies,

02:50:34.160 can't help but talk about

02:50:35.600 you online.

02:50:37.160 Um, like right now you

02:50:38.900 guys are basically not,

02:50:40.420 you don't exist on

02:50:41.320 Twitter, but I see stuff

02:50:42.440 from you guys all the

02:50:43.400 time, not because you're

02:50:44.600 posting it, but because

02:50:45.700 your enemies are posting

02:50:46.780 it.

02:50:47.040 And then, uh, our guys

02:50:48.680 across the world get in

02:50:50.280 there and they're in the

02:50:50.880 comment section before you

02:50:51.840 know it, that there's,

02:50:52.600 these posts have, you

02:50:53.560 know, a hundred

02:50:54.120 thousand, 500,000 views

02:50:56.140 because they couldn't

02:50:57.620 help themselves, but you

02:50:58.760 know, they just, they

02:51:00.400 just had to condemn the 0.88

02:51:01.700 evil Nazis.

02:51:02.460 They just had to, and in 0.93

02:51:04.400 doing so, they ended up,

02:51:05.340 you know, promoting you

02:51:06.760 indirectly.

02:51:07.700 So, um, I don't, I don't

02:51:09.280 think that's the same

02:51:09.860 thing.

02:51:10.620 No one supports this.

02:51:12.300 No one likes this.

02:51:13.740 Why do you have to keep

02:51:14.320 saying it then?

02:51:15.420 Yeah.

02:51:15.660 I don't have to go around

02:51:17.220 and be like, you know

02:51:18.020 what?

02:51:19.380 No one supports smearing 1.00

02:51:21.560 shit all over your face. 1.00

02:51:22.660 Like no one supports, um, 1.00

02:51:25.600 you know, raping three 0.99

02:51:26.660 year olds. 1.00

02:51:27.060 Like I don't have to go

02:51:28.040 around explaining that to

02:51:29.080 people because everyone

02:51:30.180 knows that.

02:51:30.900 What, what, why do you

02:51:31.620 need to be like, oh,

02:51:33.420 Nazism, everyone, no one 0.96

02:51:35.160 has any appetite for that.

02:51:36.200 That's just, and that's the

02:51:39.000 other thing as well, which

02:51:39.880 is that, um, the key

02:51:43.160 tactic that we use is we

02:51:44.480 take the extreme in the

02:51:47.800 minds of many, a very

02:51:48.700 radical position, but then

02:51:50.840 we then marry that radical

02:51:52.220 position to a majority

02:51:54.100 view.

02:51:55.700 So pretty much all of our

02:51:57.240 activism follows this basic

02:51:58.680 formula where obviously

02:52:00.700 we're national socialists,

02:52:02.900 it's, we're dressed in

02:52:03.680 black, we're militant,

02:52:05.260 we're aggressive, we're

02:52:06.300 provocative, but then we

02:52:08.460 take an issue that the

02:52:09.580 majority of people agree

02:52:10.320 with and then like back it

02:52:11.620 when we notice the rest of

02:52:13.520 the political system

02:52:14.420 is unresponsive to it.

02:52:16.840 And so then it creates

02:52:17.520 this jarring effect where

02:52:18.560 it's like, well, how come

02:52:19.360 the only people that are

02:52:20.580 actually standing up for the

02:52:21.960 majority position are

02:52:22.940 supposedly also the most

02:52:24.100 radical position that no

02:52:25.440 one agrees with?

02:52:27.020 Those two things don't make

02:52:28.120 any sense.

02:52:29.180 You can't have one without

02:52:30.080 the other.

02:52:31.120 And so what it does is it

02:52:32.160 like ruptures the, the,

02:52:34.720 the political structure that

02:52:35.980 people have in their mental

02:52:36.860 model of like what's

02:52:37.860 acceptable, what's not

02:52:38.600 acceptable.

02:52:39.040 And it completely subverts

02:52:40.980 and confuses the whole

02:52:41.940 thing.

02:52:43.000 And that's an incredible

02:52:43.860 metapolitical kind of

02:52:44.920 jujitsu that you can put,

02:52:46.120 that we've been performing

02:52:46.820 and it's working, you

02:52:48.940 know, grandma's coming up

02:52:49.920 to me at events and being

02:52:51.940 like, I tell all my friends

02:52:53.340 I'm a neo-Nazi now, you

02:52:54.920 know, and it's like some

02:52:56.400 seven-year-old grandma I

02:52:57.620 red-pilled apparently.

02:52:58.580 She watches the show every

02:52:59.340 week.

02:52:59.500 Like, it's like, how is this

02:53:00.600 like, it's working.

02:53:02.040 Like we're converting people 0.97

02:53:04.740 to this view that would

02:53:05.700 previously not consider it

02:53:07.960 like, like it used to be

02:53:09.800 like, there was a bunch of

02:53:10.540 skinheads or whatever over

02:53:11.880 here doing this thing.

02:53:12.820 And like, it was socially

02:53:13.840 unacceptable.

02:53:15.140 Now it's just like normal

02:53:16.380 people are like, yeah, like

02:53:17.800 I support the Nazis, you 1.00

02:53:19.800 know?

02:53:20.780 Dude, I had, this is a while

02:53:23.520 ago now, but I had a, an

02:53:27.640 elderly lady come up to me 1.00

02:53:29.120 when I was in the gym and

02:53:30.740 she goes, are you ferryman?

02:53:32.160 I was like, yeah.

02:53:33.180 And she's like, oh my

02:53:33.880 God, I love you so much.

02:53:35.160 I was just watching your

02:53:36.080 podcast. 1.00

02:53:36.660 I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:53:37.660 Like, like last night I was 1.00

02:53:39.520 talking about Indians getting 0.99

02:53:40.900 hit by trains and like

02:53:42.260 laughing at the videos.

02:53:43.380 And this grandma's like, I

02:53:44.480 love your stuff.

02:53:45.200 You're such a good boy.

02:53:46.420 Like we love what I love

02:53:47.620 what you're doing.

02:53:48.200 I tell her and I'm like,

02:53:49.200 this doesn't make any

02:53:50.640 sense, but nobody does

02:53:52.840 make sense.

02:53:53.580 I know it, it doesn't on the

02:53:55.760 surface.

02:53:56.080 And then you think about it

02:53:56.820 for a second.

02:53:57.200 It's like, well, nobody's

02:53:57.940 sticking up for these

02:53:58.700 people.

02:53:59.940 So of course they love what

02:54:01.240 you're doing.

02:54:02.040 So yeah.

02:54:03.420 Yeah.

02:54:04.260 That was one of my more

02:54:05.260 like I call it, I refer to

02:54:06.780 them as the granny 0.97

02:54:07.520 often, but yeah, as Tom

02:54:09.160 likes to say, we have the

02:54:10.000 best grandmas, right?

02:54:11.800 Yeah, it's true.

02:54:12.560 But it's all, it's all

02:54:13.420 demographics.

02:54:13.960 Um, really like, so anyway,

02:54:18.340 but yeah, like the, the white

02:54:21.620 man is coming back.

02:54:22.780 Things are good.

02:54:24.280 Um, I feel very positive

02:54:26.060 about the future.

02:54:27.180 A lot of work to do.

02:54:28.180 A lot of, a lot of work to

02:54:29.460 do, but, um, but yeah, like

02:54:33.360 I said, there's obviously that

02:54:34.440 there's a lot of better

02:54:35.160 political value to what I just

02:54:36.320 said, which is marrying

02:54:38.140 radicalism with, you know, a

02:54:41.740 popular position.

02:54:42.500 And that's what forces these

02:54:43.840 people to engage with us and

02:54:45.080 react to us.

02:54:45.680 Cause they have to go, well, I

02:54:46.600 agree with this, but this, or

02:54:47.900 like, this isn't the right way

02:54:49.260 to go about promoting this

02:54:50.320 message.

02:54:50.720 And like, it drives all of

02:54:52.400 this conversation around how

02:54:54.700 do we approach the subject?

02:54:56.380 And then, you know, basically we

02:54:57.920 get everyone talking about what

02:54:58.960 we want them talking about and

02:55:00.060 get everyone thinking in terms

02:55:01.320 a lot more amenable to, to what

02:55:03.680 we're promoting, like break down

02:55:05.160 the resistance in their psyche

02:55:06.580 to entertaining radical politics

02:55:10.160 or whatever.

02:55:10.980 If they're already saying, well,

02:55:11.980 you know, I'm not as extreme as

02:55:14.340 them, but I agree, or it wouldn't

02:55:15.880 be the way I'd go about it, but

02:55:17.220 they have a point we've already

02:55:18.540 won.

02:55:18.860 Like then now we're part of the

02:55:21.320 conversation.

02:55:22.140 Now it's been normalized, you

02:55:25.060 know, on the left, most people

02:55:26.600 who vote for like the labor

02:55:28.020 party or, or whatever, what the

02:55:31.160 left is called the liberal party

02:55:32.300 they're called in Canada or

02:55:33.200 whatever, like, you know,

02:55:34.740 democratic social, social

02:55:35.920 democratic party, whatever.

02:55:38.240 They don't all agree with like

02:55:39.820 Antifa, right?

02:55:42.120 They don't all agree with their

02:55:43.120 tactics.

02:55:43.680 They don't, but they don't, they

02:55:45.400 don't spend their time

02:55:46.240 counter-signaling them either.

02:55:47.780 They, they're, they're attack

02:55:49.300 dogs.

02:55:49.800 You know, they like allow, like

02:55:50.920 they kind of, uh, they go along 1.00

02:55:52.780 with their bullshit and then 1.00

02:55:53.860 Antifa types literally will 1.00

02:55:55.160 infiltrate the center left

02:55:56.600 parties and like control their

02:55:57.920 agendas and set the paradigm for

02:55:59.960 their policies.

02:56:01.500 So that's how it's supposed to

02:56:03.760 work in a functional political

02:56:04.860 movement.

02:56:05.320 Your vanguard, your radicals, you

02:56:07.720 know, drive, they take, they

02:56:09.680 take the fight to the political

02:56:10.880 enemies.

02:56:11.400 They drive the discourse, they

02:56:12.600 drive the agenda and everyone

02:56:14.720 else kind of falls in behind them.

02:56:16.300 And the riot for so long was

02:56:18.940 incapable of functioning like this

02:56:20.260 because it was engaged in this

02:56:22.600 internal cancel culture of, of

02:56:24.960 trying to prove how not Nazi it 0.84

02:56:26.840 was, you know, and to the point

02:56:28.440 where it's this, cause again, as

02:56:29.780 I said, conservatism is this logic

02:56:31.460 of capitulation, um, because it's

02:56:35.100 like negotiating, well, you know,

02:56:36.260 we're not like them.

02:56:37.220 So we'll like reframe white

02:56:39.480 interests without any of the

02:56:41.280 controversial language and see

02:56:42.720 maybe you'll agree with this.

02:56:43.920 You know, what if we get rid of

02:56:45.360 all the edgy stuff and put it like

02:56:46.680 that?

02:56:47.000 And like, you know, it's just

02:56:47.900 this constant, um, how far, like

02:56:51.180 if we capitulate 10%, is that

02:56:52.620 enough for you?

02:56:53.080 No.

02:56:53.260 What about 20%?

02:56:54.080 Well, what about 30%?

02:56:55.140 Okay.

02:56:55.300 Maybe you'll take that now, but

02:56:56.420 then you'll get a look, you'll

02:56:57.240 want more.

02:56:57.980 And it's just like this constant,

02:56:59.320 you know, uh, surrender is

02:57:02.880 iterated surrender.

02:57:04.680 And that's what conservatism always

02:57:05.780 was like the, the reason why,

02:57:07.540 like what the conservative party

02:57:08.640 did in Britain through the 19th

02:57:10.200 century was control the 0.94

02:57:12.780 destruction of the aristocracy.

02:57:14.200 Like there were the

02:57:15.300 representatives so-called of the

02:57:16.600 aristocracy, but they enabled 1.00

02:57:18.200 progressive kind of

02:57:21.180 democratization to occur and the

02:57:23.000 extension of the franchise and the

02:57:24.500 empowerment of the masses and so

02:57:25.860 on to occur because we didn't want

02:57:27.500 it to be like the French 1.00

02:57:28.100 revolution where it all happens at

02:57:29.500 once and everyone gets their head 0.98

02:57:30.660 chopped off. 0.80

02:57:31.360 So they did like a kind of like

02:57:32.580 slow controlled demolition so they

02:57:34.760 could transition to like a kind of

02:57:37.200 bourgeois form of like exercising

02:57:38.720 power or whatever.

02:57:40.380 Um, and try to help the elite, try to

02:57:42.520 like hold position by doing a

02:57:43.940 controlled revolutionary demolition.

02:57:46.580 Rather than that's all conservatism is.

02:57:49.100 It's not a legitimate political

02:57:50.620 position.

02:57:51.240 It's not a little bit legitimate

02:57:52.440 political ideology.

02:57:53.320 It's almost like an anti-ideology.

02:57:56.040 Um, but what we're putting forward is

02:57:58.620 like, no, well, what if we actually

02:57:59.560 tried to win?

02:58:00.300 Like if you're trying, if you're on

02:58:01.400 the right wing in Australia, if you're

02:58:02.680 a nationalist and you're trying to

02:58:03.700 win, like, like where the guy has

02:58:07.260 taken the fight, like you have, like

02:58:08.520 you have to kind of like back us, like

02:58:10.200 where your guys and that's what kind of

02:58:11.740 happened on Australia Day, on Anzac Day,

02:58:15.120 various other issues that we took up

02:58:16.580 where our main national holidays or, or

02:58:18.980 whatever, when they were being

02:58:19.740 disrespected by this Aboriginal worship 1.00

02:58:21.740 garbage or whatever, and we took the 1.00

02:58:23.300 fight on those issues, patriotic 0.96

02:58:25.620 Australians sided with us and we're like,

02:58:27.260 hang on a second.

02:58:29.520 Like, you know, we created that jarring

02:58:31.580 effect and we're going to keep doing

02:58:34.420 that.

02:58:34.540 We're going to take up the fight on free

02:58:35.740 speech, take up the fight on so many

02:58:37.320 issues that the, the average, you know,

02:58:40.420 white Australian agrees with us on.

02:58:42.240 And it's just going to become like, I keep

02:58:44.140 agreeing with Nazis all the time. 0.62

02:58:45.560 How many times do you have to agree with

02:58:46.920 Nazis until eventually you realize they're

02:58:48.620 not the bad guy?

02:58:50.060 We're figuring that out.

02:58:51.340 And like, every time we make them agree

02:58:53.120 with us reluctantly, they get less and less

02:58:54.800 reluctant.

02:58:55.180 And eventually it's a optimistic

02:58:58.540 agreement.

02:58:59.280 It's a, it's a loving agreement.

02:59:01.440 So this is what I said in my speech at, at,

02:59:04.400 at the last national event, which is that

02:59:06.460 the best way to get people to come around

02:59:10.280 to national socialism is not necessarily

02:59:12.320 to talk about World War II revisionism and

02:59:14.360 the Holocaust and all this kind of stuff.

02:59:17.080 Like that has its place.

02:59:18.440 It's important.

02:59:19.080 I'm not saying it's not important, but the

02:59:21.180 really, the real way that it's going to

02:59:23.300 work is by being the Nazis now. 0.68

02:59:25.500 And getting people to like the Nazis in 0.51

02:59:27.400 the 21st century.

02:59:31.120 So.

02:59:32.260 Yeah, I perfectly said.

02:59:36.280 I mean, that was, that was one topic that

02:59:40.260 I, I don't know if we want to get into or

02:59:42.040 not.

02:59:42.280 It's getting, we're three hours in now, but

02:59:44.500 I was going to maybe bring that up, which

02:59:46.360 was your kind of back and forth with Keith

02:59:48.620 Woods about whether or not national

02:59:51.040 socialism, you know, rehabilitation is

02:59:53.560 necessary.

02:59:56.160 I don't know.

02:59:56.680 I don't know how you want to frame that,

02:59:58.220 that back and forth.

02:59:58.980 It was a really good back and forth.

03:00:00.920 Well, would you, would you like, how

03:00:02.740 much do you want to go like deep on this?

03:00:04.520 Cause it's a pretty deep.

03:00:05.420 So I do, but if we want to, I want to

03:00:07.840 go on and like crack a monster energy drink.

03:00:10.220 Okay.

03:00:10.620 And then I'll do it.

03:00:11.380 If you want to, if you want to, if you

03:00:12.500 want to go deep into it together,

03:00:13.720 we can do that, but I'll put the screen

03:00:18.280 on first.

03:00:18.640 I'll go rock a piss there and grab another

03:00:21.220 drink and then we can do it for sure.

03:00:23.360 If you want us to, I see, I see Canadian

03:00:25.080 Chinese said a comment for the day when

03:00:27.900 Joel opens an OnlyFans account, I'll

03:00:29.660 subscribe.

03:00:30.320 Well, you know, Hey, like, uh, um, I

03:00:34.840 appreciate that.

03:00:36.100 I know I'm pretty cute.

03:00:37.440 I don't know.

03:00:39.960 Eventually, you know, maybe the, you

03:00:41.920 know, the, the, uh, the super chats aren't

03:00:44.080 really rolling in enough and, you know, I

03:00:46.180 might get desperate.

03:00:47.520 You know, it seemed like it's worked out

03:00:48.920 well for Arvol, uh, you know, Conor

03:00:55.780 McGregor, like goon patriots are on the

03:00:58.620 rise.

03:00:59.140 It didn't comfy friend.

03:01:00.560 It didn't work out so well for, but I

03:01:02.400 mean, what was he doing?

03:01:03.180 Like if you just simped for a white girl,

03:01:04.840 no one would have cared, you know, but 0.99

03:01:06.820 like a fat Latina, that's a bit much, but 1.00

03:01:08.820 goon patriots in general are on the 0.98

03:01:11.060 ascendancy.

03:01:12.100 We're about to talk about Keith Woods.

03:01:15.280 Um, and, uh, you know, maybe that's the

03:01:17.840 logical next step.

03:01:18.580 Like maybe, maybe if I just like flop it

03:01:21.660 out on OnlyFans, um, you know, that might

03:01:25.100 win over a lot of the, uh, we've got to

03:01:27.160 win over the women voters, you know, we've 1.00

03:01:29.300 got to win over the women voters, but 1.00

03:01:31.940 anyway, Canadian girl says Natsock boys

03:01:35.500 calendar, yeah, I don't know if that, I

03:01:39.760 don't, I don't, I don't, maybe that

03:01:41.160 would work.

03:01:41.620 I don't know.

03:01:43.860 I don't know.

03:01:45.140 Get, I don't know.

03:01:46.060 Blair Cottrell feature.

03:01:47.580 The girls love him.

03:01:48.460 Right.

03:01:51.060 Well, yeah, I don't know.

03:01:55.360 All right.

03:01:55.840 Going a bit deep.

03:01:57.100 All right.

03:01:57.680 We'll come back.

03:01:58.320 We could get like a, like, you know, like

03:02:01.580 NSN bikinis on the women or something. 0.99

03:02:03.820 We could do something.

03:02:04.680 We could have some fun.

03:02:06.120 Um, but yeah, we get goon patriots. 1.00

03:02:12.540 We're going to go into intermission.

03:02:13.980 I'm going to crack a monster.

03:02:15.240 We'll be back.

03:02:15.820 Um, all right, let's do it.

03:02:19.380 We're going to start dialectically

03:02:20.940 analyzing historical political

03:02:23.760 ideological developments.

03:02:26.200 It'd be riveting, but yeah.

03:02:27.800 What are you going to, can you like

03:02:28.700 make like the screen go away or

03:02:29.900 should I just leave?

03:02:31.300 There you go.

03:02:32.600 Oh, there you go.

03:02:35.660 Okay.

03:02:45.820 We'll be right back.

03:02:53.700 We'll see you next time.

03:02:57.720 Bye.

03:02:57.820 Bye.

03:03:01.420 Bye.

03:03:02.260 Bye.

03:03:04.840 Bye.

03:03:15.460 Bye.

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03:04:15.820 .

03:04:16.820 .

03:04:17.820 .

03:04:18.820 .

03:04:19.820 .

03:04:20.820 .

03:04:21.820 .

03:04:22.820 .

03:04:23.820 .

03:04:24.820 .

03:04:25.820 All right.

03:04:50.820 So I don't know how you want to frame this discussion,

03:04:53.820 but the way I would go about it is that Key's argument is basically

03:04:58.820 that in order to have the resurgence,

03:05:01.820 the resurgence of,

03:05:03.820 you know,

03:05:04.820 nationalist movements and to reclaim,

03:05:06.820 you know, European countries,

03:05:07.820 you don't inherently need to rehabilitate national socialist,

03:05:11.820 you know,

03:05:12.820 ideology or optics.

03:05:16.820 And nor is it ideal.

03:05:19.820 And you're kind of,

03:05:22.820 I don't know,

03:05:23.820 I'll let you speak to that,

03:05:24.820 but it seems to me like that was more or less Key's argument.

03:05:27.820 I don't know if you would agree with that assessment,

03:05:29.820 but I'll let you go.

03:05:31.820 Well,

03:05:32.820 that was his position.

03:05:33.820 His arguments from memory,

03:05:36.820 his key arguments were number one,

03:05:38.820 like the obvious,

03:05:40.820 uh,

03:05:41.820 uh,

03:05:42.820 it's an extra layer of controversy.

03:05:44.820 Like it's,

03:05:45.820 um,

03:05:46.820 you know,

03:05:47.820 you can defend white nationalism without having to like defend,

03:05:50.820 you know,

03:05:51.820 accusations of genocide or whatever specific to the national socialist regime of

03:05:57.820 Germany.

03:05:58.820 Uh,

03:05:59.820 he said,

03:06:00.820 in particular,

03:06:01.820 I did a lot of crying about the poor Polish and how Poland was 1.00

03:06:05.820 aggressed against by the Germans and how basically national

03:06:10.820 socialism was not a kind of pan European movement,

03:06:13.820 but it was a German chauvinist movement.

03:06:15.820 And so if you're not German,

03:06:17.820 why would you support that?

03:06:19.820 Um,

03:06:20.820 and that,

03:06:21.820 uh,

03:06:22.820 it had like anti,

03:06:23.820 those anti-Slavic opinions and positions and,

03:06:25.820 and kind of policies,

03:06:26.820 um,

03:06:27.820 implemented by the German state.

03:06:29.820 Um,

03:06:31.820 and,

03:06:32.820 uh,

03:06:33.820 yeah,

03:06:34.820 that was kind of like the gist of what he was getting at.

03:06:37.820 And my counter arguments were a few.

03:06:39.820 I mean,

03:06:40.820 I think every European country is,

03:06:43.820 is a bit different on this issue,

03:06:45.820 by the way,

03:06:46.820 I'm speaking from an Australian perspective or,

03:06:48.820 you know,

03:06:49.820 in,

03:06:50.820 in particular,

03:06:51.820 because from an Australian perspective,

03:06:53.820 and I think Canadian can relate to this.

03:06:56.820 What world war two was,

03:06:58.820 was the collapse of our empire,

03:07:01.820 the British empire prior to second world war.

03:07:05.820 You know,

03:07:06.820 the flag of Australia was union Jack.

03:07:08.820 Our national anthem was God save the King.

03:07:11.820 Like we were part of the empire.

03:07:13.820 We didn't see ourselves as like an entirely separate people from the British people.

03:07:18.820 We saw ourselves as,

03:07:19.820 you know,

03:07:20.820 sons,

03:07:21.820 sudden sons of the British race. 0.93

03:07:24.820 And,

03:07:25.820 um,

03:07:26.820 what occurred in world war two was the British empire was sacrificed on the altar of fighting Hitler on behalf of Jews,

03:07:32.820 more or less.

03:07:33.820 Um,

03:07:35.820 and Hitler wanted an alliance with the British empire.

03:07:39.820 And strategically,

03:07:40.820 it made sense to ally with,

03:07:42.820 with the Germans against the twin threat of the Americans and the Soviet Union,

03:07:45.820 who then conspired to facilitate the deconstruction of the British empire and all the other European empires.

03:07:51.820 Um,

03:07:53.820 as it was in their geopolitical interest as like emerging superpowers to basically divide the world between themselves as like liberal democracies and communist states,

03:08:02.820 which is what happened.

03:08:03.820 So,

03:08:05.820 you know,

03:08:06.820 after world war two,

03:08:07.820 Australia has kind of been amputated from the rest of our like British racial family. 0.96

03:08:12.820 And,

03:08:13.820 uh,

03:08:14.820 this is like the greatest tragedy in our history as a nation.

03:08:19.820 And so the question of national socialism and whether it deserves to be,

03:08:25.820 whether it should be kind of,

03:08:27.820 uh,

03:08:28.820 rejected and despised or whatever,

03:08:30.820 whether it should be kind of rehabilitated is very important in particular to people who are British or people who hail from,

03:08:37.820 uh,

03:08:38.820 the Anglosphere because,

03:08:41.820 you know,

03:08:42.820 we literally nuked our empire or destroyed our empire to fight this,

03:08:45.820 to fight this force.

03:08:46.820 Was that the right decision?

03:08:47.820 No,

03:08:48.820 it was the worst decision ever made in the history of our people.

03:08:51.820 Um,

03:08:52.820 and it was made by traders.

03:08:54.820 Um,

03:08:55.820 and when you,

03:08:56.820 you know,

03:08:57.820 if you read like David Irving's analyses of like,

03:08:58.820 you know,

03:08:59.820 read Churchill's war or whatever,

03:09:00.820 you see that,

03:09:01.820 you know,

03:09:02.820 literal traders working on behalf of Jewish interests,

03:09:05.820 um,

03:09:06.820 the public and made a series of decisions that were against British national interest in order to perpetuate that war and not take,

03:09:15.820 um,

03:09:16.820 peace deal when it was offered multiple times and so on and exacerbate it,

03:09:21.820 et cetera.

03:09:22.820 Um,

03:09:23.820 so it's really kind of apex question for us.

03:09:27.820 I don't expect Polish people to embrace national socialism,

03:09:30.820 like frankly.

03:09:31.820 Um,

03:09:32.820 but,

03:09:33.820 you know,

03:09:34.820 I do see it as,

03:09:35.820 as having like inherent value,

03:09:37.820 but also,

03:09:38.820 my main argument in my essay was that like national socialism,

03:09:45.820 what it is,

03:09:46.820 is,

03:09:47.820 is basically nationalism taken to its like logical conclusion.

03:09:50.820 Prior to world war two,

03:09:51.820 you had,

03:09:52.820 you know,

03:09:53.820 from the time of the enlightenment up to world war two,

03:09:55.820 you had a political situation in which nationalism and liberalism were often synthesized.

03:10:00.820 Um,

03:10:01.820 where most nationalists were liberals,

03:10:04.820 most liberals were nationalists.

03:10:05.820 These ideologies were seen as simpatico.

03:10:08.820 And,

03:10:09.820 um,

03:10:10.820 there was crossover between them.

03:10:12.820 Um,

03:10:13.820 however,

03:10:14.820 theorists like Carl Schmidt realized that there's actually a fundamental contradiction between nationalism and liberalism in their essential meaning.

03:10:22.820 Because liberalism is built around the principle of minority rights. 0.89

03:10:27.820 The idea that like society is built on a contract between individuals.

03:10:30.820 And even if you aren't a member of the majority,

03:10:33.820 that you should still maintain certain like political,

03:10:36.820 legal,

03:10:37.820 et cetera,

03:10:38.820 rights,

03:10:39.820 uh,

03:10:40.820 within the political process.

03:10:41.820 Um,

03:10:42.820 it kind of like keeps,

03:10:43.820 um,

03:10:44.820 therefore alien elements and minority elements like in the political game and like defends them actively.

03:10:51.820 Whereas nationalism is the principle of majority rule is the principle of majority sovereignty.

03:10:57.820 And so these two things are actually like directly oppositional in their essence.

03:11:02.820 And so Carl Schmidt predicted in his crisis of parliamentary democracy in the early 1920s,

03:11:07.820 that,

03:11:08.820 um,

03:11:09.820 liberalism and nationalism would turn against one another.

03:11:12.820 And what national socialism was,

03:11:14.820 was a mutation of German nationalism into a totally illiberal form.

03:11:17.820 Nationalism purging itself of all of its liberal elements as liberalism was imposed upon Germany during the Weimar period,

03:11:25.820 uh,

03:11:27.820 to disastrous consequences,

03:11:28.820 um,

03:11:29.820 through military defeat.

03:11:30.820 The Germans resisted liberalism the most of any kind of Western European country.

03:11:35.820 Um,

03:11:36.820 they resisted the enlightenment the most,

03:11:37.820 you know,

03:11:38.820 the Germans embraced romanticism.

03:11:39.820 They embraced anti-enlightenment philosophies.

03:11:42.820 German high culture from like the late 18th century to the early 20th century is like the goat run of like the contemporary West. 0.94

03:11:48.820 They had the best philosophers,

03:11:49.820 the best,

03:11:50.820 uh,

03:11:51.820 composers.

03:11:52.820 Um,

03:11:53.820 the development of like German national consciousness and like modern German culture is truly profound.

03:11:58.820 And it was largely a reaction to the enlightenment because Napoleon ripped across Germany.

03:12:05.820 Um,

03:12:06.820 after the French Revolution,

03:12:07.820 the Germans had,

03:12:08.820 you know,

03:12:09.820 hostile relations with the British Empire and so on.

03:12:11.820 And the decision to unify and create the German state and the German Empire was to resist these like liberal powers in the West and to assert an independent like German national existence.

03:12:23.820 Um,

03:12:24.820 Um,

03:12:25.820 and you know,

03:12:26.820 the Germans historically,

03:12:27.820 these were the barbarians that sacked Rome. 0.85

03:12:29.820 Uh,

03:12:30.820 this is where the Protestant Reformation happened.

03:12:32.820 You know,

03:12:33.820 the Germans have resisted,

03:12:34.820 um,

03:12:35.820 you know,

03:12:36.820 previous imperial globalist forces like the Roman Empire,

03:12:41.820 like Catholicism in the same way that they resisted free Masonic enlightenment,

03:12:45.820 liberalism,

03:12:46.820 um,

03:12:47.820 as practiced by the French and the British and the Americans.

03:12:50.820 So it makes sense that Germany, 0.87

03:12:53.820 after being military militarily defeated in World War one would then basically,

03:12:57.820 um,

03:12:58.820 and being forced to capitulate to these forces in the Weimar Republic,

03:13:02.820 that nationalism would take a,

03:13:04.820 a sharp and militant illiberal turn in the kind of mutation of national socialism as a,

03:13:11.820 as a political worldview where nationalism was taken to its logical conclusion.

03:13:14.820 No,

03:13:15.820 we're not just going to have nationalism mixed with liberalism anymore,

03:13:18.820 like a nationalist form of liberalism.

03:13:21.820 What we're going to have is nationalism pure.

03:13:24.820 And,

03:13:25.820 and national socialism is basically the fundamental principle of it is that literally,

03:13:31.820 and it's,

03:13:32.820 it's putting,

03:13:33.820 it's in the precepts is that the good of the nation comes first.

03:13:37.820 Period.

03:13:38.820 Step.

03:13:39.820 That's,

03:13:40.820 that's the fundamental political.

03:13:41.820 That's what a national socialist is.

03:13:43.820 Someone who puts the national society first politically in every respect.

03:13:47.820 Um,

03:13:48.820 the collective before the individual,

03:13:50.820 the Volkish community.

03:13:52.820 So national socialism in the kind of purification of the nationalist idea,

03:13:57.820 exemplified this dialectical tension between nationalism and liberalism coming to a head.

03:14:03.820 And then world war two,

03:14:05.820 being that it was a clash between national socialism and its allies,

03:14:10.820 like it's fascist and other allies against the liberal world.

03:14:15.820 And also the communist world.

03:14:17.820 It was the clash between the universal and the particular, 0.97

03:14:20.820 these universalist,

03:14:21.820 because,

03:14:22.820 because communism,

03:14:23.820 capitalism is really a mutation out of liberalism on that same trajectory or that same vein.

03:14:28.820 It's,

03:14:29.820 it's basically saying,

03:14:30.820 well,

03:14:31.820 liberalism promises universal brotherhood of man,

03:14:32.820 but it doesn't deliver it because capitalism maintains class differentiation.

03:14:36.820 And so to fully realize the enlightenment ideal of universal brotherhood and equality of all mankind,

03:14:44.820 um,

03:14:45.820 we need to apply this science of socialism to overcome capitalism and realize like true freedom and true equality.

03:14:53.820 So really like what Marxism is,

03:14:56.820 is a critique of liberalism on its own terms,

03:14:59.820 on the basis of its own values and its own project.

03:15:02.820 National socialism is not this national socialism is a repudiation of the project.

03:15:06.820 It's a critique of its values.

03:15:08.820 It's not saying that the,

03:15:09.820 it's not identifying a contradiction inside liberalism at achieving its supposed state aim and trying to correct that.

03:15:15.820 Instead,

03:15:16.820 it's saying what it's aiming at is fundamentally wrong in the first place.

03:15:19.820 And it's a rejection of its core values.

03:15:21.820 So national socialism in raising this,

03:15:25.820 you know,

03:15:26.820 world historical challenge to liberalism and to,

03:15:30.820 in the enlightenment kind of derived modernity.

03:15:33.820 And it's,

03:15:35.820 uh,

03:15:36.820 you know,

03:15:37.820 ideological offshoots,

03:15:38.820 um,

03:15:39.820 engaged essentially in a metaphysical war for the,

03:15:42.820 the,

03:15:43.820 the direction of the destiny of Europe.

03:15:45.820 You know,

03:15:46.820 they wanted to assert the particular against the universal.

03:15:48.820 They wanted to assert the principle of the race of the nation against the ideal of the individual and,

03:15:54.820 uh,

03:15:55.820 you know,

03:15:56.820 the collective human family or whatever universal brotherhood,

03:15:58.820 these ideals,

03:15:59.820 right.

03:16:00.820 That's what world war two was fundamentally about.

03:16:02.820 It's a metaphysical war.

03:16:04.820 And so we as nationalists is clearly,

03:16:09.820 we clearly have a side and this is the most important war in human history.

03:16:14.820 Like this is the biggest war in human history.

03:16:16.820 This is the most decisive war for the fate of our people.

03:16:19.820 And the consequence of this war is that our race is literally under existential threat.

03:16:24.820 So this idea that you can just somehow step over this whole thing and just be a nationalist anyway, 1.00

03:16:31.820 without confronting this is fucking retarded. 1.00

03:16:33.820 It's absolutely insane. 1.00

03:16:35.820 And there's a reason why whenever you try to engage in white nationalism,

03:16:40.820 the,

03:16:41.820 the topic of national socialism and Hitler and so on is brought up.

03:16:44.820 It's not just a cheap gotcha like by the left.

03:16:47.820 It's because it's relevant.

03:16:48.820 Yeah.

03:16:49.820 For this very clear and blatant reason,

03:16:51.820 that clash that was made clear between liberalism and nationalism was in the second world war,

03:16:58.820 then became implemented within liberalism.

03:17:01.820 Liberalism reconfigured itself through the events of the rise to power of the Nazis and the fascists

03:17:07.820 and the events of World War II into becoming a fundamentally anti-nationalist ideology.

03:17:13.820 The,

03:17:14.820 the,

03:17:15.820 um,

03:17:16.820 alliance of liberal liberalism and nationalism,

03:17:17.820 which previously existed to fight the old aristocracies and the empires that they presided over various parts of Europe and around the world.

03:17:25.820 Well,

03:17:26.820 this had now collapsed.

03:17:27.820 It was no longer relevant.

03:17:28.820 And the new relevancy was for liberalism to proactively defend itself against,

03:17:33.820 uh,

03:17:34.820 radical nationalism because liberalism had this global project of,

03:17:39.820 of global liberalism where we would have a global market.

03:17:42.820 We would have universal human rights and where we'd live in Pax Americana and nationalists,

03:17:48.820 uh,

03:17:49.820 were the greatest threat to this.

03:17:50.820 And so national identities had to be liquidated and national socialist ideals,

03:17:54.820 had to be demonized.

03:17:56.820 And this became the,

03:17:57.820 because this is how political ideologies work.

03:17:59.820 They don't kind of come out of a vacuum.

03:18:01.820 They're always in response to particular threats or a particular political historical situation.

03:18:06.820 And so liberalism reformatted itself in an anti-nationalist form,

03:18:10.820 just like nationalism reformulated itself in,

03:18:13.820 in a liberal form,

03:18:14.820 just as Schmidt predicted.

03:18:16.820 And so we have to make a decision between these two elements,

03:18:19.820 like that alliance is dead and no longer exists.

03:18:22.820 Moreover,

03:18:23.820 the left reformulated itself as well.

03:18:25.820 The Marxist left in the West,

03:18:26.820 it reformulated itself from being primarily concerned with fighting capitalism.

03:18:31.820 It saw that the,

03:18:32.820 you know,

03:18:33.820 the,

03:18:34.820 the white working class took the fight up on behalf of the fascists and the national socialists,

03:18:39.820 rather than on behalf of them,

03:18:40.820 of the communists.

03:18:42.820 Um,

03:18:43.820 they then came to become primarily anti-fascist and are now basically in a,

03:18:48.820 in a alliance of convenience with the liberal capitalist,

03:18:52.820 globalist elite against us primarily because they're,

03:18:56.820 you know,

03:18:57.820 they saw fascism and national socialism as an even greater threat to their ends

03:19:02.820 than liberalism because liberalism,

03:19:03.820 it has an agreement with the communists on many values.

03:19:08.820 It's a,

03:19:09.820 just a dispute over the economic system and structure that can best implement those

03:19:13.820 values.

03:19:14.820 Whereas the dispute that the communists have with us is more fundamental.

03:19:18.820 It's on the question of values.

03:19:20.820 It's on the question of,

03:19:21.820 um,

03:19:22.820 human difference,

03:19:24.820 whether,

03:19:25.820 uh,

03:19:26.820 some,

03:19:27.820 whether superiority or supremacy,

03:19:29.820 uh,

03:19:30.820 is good,

03:19:31.820 whether the particular should be valued over the universal in the sense of,

03:19:35.820 uh,

03:19:36.820 whether you should put your people first,

03:19:37.820 you should put,

03:19:38.820 um,

03:19:39.820 whether,

03:19:40.820 yeah,

03:19:41.820 whether you should aspire to supremacy,

03:19:43.820 over others,

03:19:45.820 like as a people,

03:19:46.820 like you should want more power,

03:19:48.820 more excellence,

03:19:49.820 um,

03:19:50.820 or whether you shouldn't,

03:19:51.820 we should instead aspire to have this kind of universal sludge of,

03:19:56.820 of mass egalitarianism.

03:19:58.820 So it's a more fundamental,

03:20:00.820 like clash of,

03:20:01.820 of,

03:20:02.820 of values. 0.58

03:20:03.820 It's no wonder leftists hate fascists and Nazis more than they hate capitalists.

03:20:07.820 And they're capitalists hate fascists and Nazis more than they hate leftists.

03:20:12.820 That's why they allied together to fight them in the World War II.

03:20:15.820 And what they're still allied together and fighting us today.

03:20:18.820 Um,

03:20:19.820 so if you're going to come to terms with like this overbearing reality,

03:20:23.820 you know,

03:20:24.820 you have to kind of accept it.

03:20:26.820 Like nitpicking over like,

03:20:27.820 well,

03:20:28.820 the Nazis were kind of mean to Slavs.

03:20:29.820 It's like,

03:20:30.820 is,

03:20:31.820 is,

03:20:32.820 is really secondary. 0.97

03:20:33.820 It also denies the fact that there were many Slavic countries allied with the fucking Germans in World War II against the communists. 0.98

03:20:39.820 Uh, 0.98

03:20:40.820 the Slovakians were allied with the Nazis,

03:20:42.820 uh,

03:20:43.820 et cetera,

03:20:44.820 et cetera,

03:20:45.820 et cetera.

03:20:46.820 Um,

03:20:47.820 and today,

03:20:48.820 there probably is no part of Europe where national socialism is more popular than Slavic Europe.

03:20:51.820 Slavic Europe has the biggest national socialist movements in the world.

03:20:55.820 Um,

03:20:56.820 so,

03:20:57.820 how do you explain that?

03:20:58.820 Uh,

03:20:59.820 well,

03:21:00.820 this is how you explain it,

03:21:01.820 because national socialism was the ideological flag that was raised against communism.

03:21:05.820 What were,

03:21:06.820 fundamentally were the national socialists trying to do?

03:21:08.820 To prevent the communists from taking over Germany.

03:21:11.820 And then they were trying to get the Bolsheviks out of Europe in general. 0.77

03:21:15.820 They fought an existential war to save Europe from communism.

03:21:18.820 That was why all these other states allied with the Germans.

03:21:22.820 That was what galvanized the German war effort.

03:21:24.820 And Hitler was trying to say to the British,

03:21:27.820 don't fight us,

03:21:28.820 take a peace deal.

03:21:29.820 We don't have quarrel with you.

03:21:30.820 We just want to fight. 0.99

03:21:32.820 We want to destroy the communists. 1.00

03:21:33.820 Let us destroy the communists. 1.00

03:21:35.820 Let us go east. 0.99

03:21:36.820 Um,

03:21:37.820 and Hitler said this in Mein Kampf.

03:21:39.820 That's what he wanted to do.

03:21:40.820 Uh,

03:21:41.820 he didn't want to fight the Western powers.

03:21:42.820 He didn't want to fight the British again. 0.56

03:21:44.820 It didn't go well for the Germans in World War one.

03:21:46.820 He said,

03:21:47.820 it would be better if we could just.

03:21:48.820 Let's pursue Laban's realm in the East.

03:21:50.820 Let's go Germanize the East. 1.00

03:21:51.820 Let's get rid of these Bolshevik scum. 1.00

03:21:53.820 That was the plan. 1.00

03:21:55.820 That vision of Europe is a Europe ascending.

03:21:59.820 If Hitler won, Europe would be 100% white today. 0.99

03:22:03.820 Imagine what Europe would be if Hitler won. 0.97

03:22:06.820 And if the Polish see about that and say, 0.88

03:22:09.820 what it would have been bad for Poland.

03:22:11.820 Well,

03:22:12.820 sorry, 0.99

03:22:13.820 I'm not fucking Polish. 0.92

03:22:15.820 If what is good for Europe, 0.99

03:22:16.820 if what is good for Western civilization is bad for Poland.

03:22:20.820 In that instance,

03:22:21.820 like I've got nothing against Polish people.

03:22:23.820 I think Polish people are great. 1.00

03:22:25.820 Fuck Poland in that instance. 1.00

03:22:27.820 Right? 1.00

03:22:28.820 Because Poland is less important than the white race. 0.99

03:22:32.820 It's less important than,

03:22:33.820 there's no other,

03:22:34.820 there was no other country in Europe that was capable of taking up the fight

03:22:38.820 against liberalism and communism other than the Germans. 0.91

03:22:40.820 They were the only people that were philosophically and militarily equipped to do so.

03:22:45.820 And they almost won.

03:22:47.820 Right?

03:22:48.820 So,

03:22:49.820 so that's why I backed them.

03:22:51.820 That's why I backed them all the way.

03:22:53.820 They,

03:22:54.820 they were the vanguard of the correct ideas in modernity.

03:22:57.820 They were the people with the vision of the values and ideals that our race needed and that Europe needed.

03:23:03.820 And they were the worthy leaders of Europe.

03:23:08.820 And,

03:23:09.820 uh,

03:23:10.820 every other European state with sense,

03:23:13.820 every other European people with sense should have allied with them.

03:23:16.820 If you didn't ally with them,

03:23:17.820 that's on you.

03:23:19.820 It's on you.

03:23:20.820 It's on them.

03:23:21.820 That's my view.

03:23:22.820 So,

03:23:23.820 um,

03:23:24.820 um,

03:23:25.820 and I think if,

03:23:26.820 if you,

03:23:27.820 if you,

03:23:28.820 if you think about it in that broad spectrum,

03:23:29.820 like what's the alternative?

03:23:30.820 Like,

03:23:31.820 okay,

03:23:32.820 well,

03:23:33.820 the Nazis did some bad things to the Polish people.

03:23:34.820 Okay.

03:23:35.820 Well, 1.00

03:23:36.820 what did the fucking Bolsheviks do to the fucking Polish people? 1.00

03:23:37.820 What did the communists do? 1.00

03:23:38.820 Yeah.

03:23:39.820 Like that was the alternative.

03:23:40.820 It's not going to be like some wholesome chungus. 1.00

03:23:42.820 Like every country gets to run its own affairs.

03:23:44.820 That's not how it works.

03:23:45.820 Like Europe is going to be ruled by either America and like all the Anglo American kind of, 0.99

03:23:51.820 uh,

03:23:52.820 world order by whoever's controlling the Russians, 0.91

03:23:55.820 which at the time were Bolshevik communists or by the Germans.

03:23:59.820 And those are the only three power factions that were,

03:24:02.820 that were going to be able to control the destiny of Europe or some kind of divide between those three elements in some way.

03:24:08.820 And are you seriously telling me that Europe has been better off under the rule of Bolsheviks communists, 0.99

03:24:14.820 or that Europe was better off under the rule of the fucking Americans? 0.99

03:24:18.820 Well, 1.00

03:24:19.820 obviously not.

03:24:20.820 The Americans went into Europe and literally infected it with suicidal,

03:24:24.820 um,

03:24:26.820 institutionalization of a suicidal ideology.

03:24:29.820 And it's now like basically genociding itself.

03:24:32.820 And that was an act.

03:24:34.820 That was,

03:24:35.820 that was denazification.

03:24:36.820 That's what it was.

03:24:37.820 And,

03:24:38.820 you know,

03:24:39.820 I don't expect these people to be defending the communists.

03:24:41.820 So,

03:24:42.820 so like,

03:24:43.820 let's be real here.

03:24:44.820 Like which one of these three elements are you going to be allying with?

03:24:47.820 Which one of these three elements is the good guys?

03:24:49.820 I mean,

03:24:50.820 there's only one answer to this.

03:24:51.820 Like,

03:24:52.820 it's just so blatant and obvious.

03:24:53.820 And so basically what I just saw it as is like this kind of myopic view where Keith is looking to kind of get out of confronting these deeper questions.

03:25:00.820 Cause he didn't engage with my essay philosophically.

03:25:02.820 He just kind of like kept complaining about these more superficial issues because he doesn't want to come into confrontation with this reality, which is that you kind of have to take a side.

03:25:15.820 And if you take the side of the Nazis, well, then you don't get to be invited to certain political events and go on certain podcasts and mix with certain people. 0.57

03:25:24.820 You're not going to be able to hang out with Gregors Braun or however you say his name, the Polish politician, the fire extinguisher guy.

03:25:32.820 Yeah, exactly.

03:25:33.820 And I care about, I believe in blood and honor, not changing my opinion to gain favor with this or that element.

03:25:45.820 And I'm sure in his mind, he sincerely thinks he believes this stuff, but it's clearly, again, it's clearly motivated reasoning, I think, because people, this is what most of conservatism is, is motivated reasoning.

03:25:57.820 Like people refusing to come to obvious conclusions and to see the big picture because of the implications of seeing the big picture.

03:26:04.820 And so they've got this subconscious drive to agree with cucked positions that don't make sense.

03:26:11.820 Because if you can believe in that, if that's the world that we live in, then that's a better world for me.

03:26:17.820 That's a world that's easier to negotiate.

03:26:19.820 That's easier to handle. 1.00

03:26:20.820 Being the Nazi sucks. 1.00

03:26:23.820 Like they're trying to put me in jail. 1.00

03:26:25.820 You know what I mean?

03:26:26.820 It's like, like my optics are nuclear. 0.95

03:26:29.820 Like it sucks being the Nazi, but it's like, but I'm doing it because I, I know it's right. 0.93

03:26:34.820 Like, and he wasn't, I don't think he was able to substantiate competent arguments and he refused to have like a, like a proper debate. 0.96

03:26:43.820 Um, because I think he knows that that debate would have gone very badly.

03:26:48.820 Like imagine, I don't think that the online right would have responded very well to his arguments versus to my arguments.

03:26:54.820 So no wonder he didn't want to have that debate.

03:26:57.820 Um, whatever.

03:26:58.820 I still, you know, I love Keith.

03:27:00.820 He's, he's a, he's an old friend.

03:27:01.820 And, uh,

03:27:03.820 Oh yeah, this, this isn't a, uh, I can put, as I watched this unfold, like I'm of the opinion that I agree with Keith to a certain extent that I don't think you need to embrace a national socialist optics or ideology necessarily to have a successful nationalist movement.

03:27:23.820 I think there's a very good example of somebody who's already doing that is Thomas Russo and Patriot Front.

03:27:28.820 Uh, obviously they're not national socialist.

03:27:30.820 Yeah.

03:27:31.820 Like Russo has basically said like, no, I don't really even really know much about it.

03:27:35.820 Although I don't know if he's being entirely truthful when he says that.

03:27:38.820 That was the argument of my essay, by the way.

03:27:40.820 The argument of my essay was not that we have to be national socialists.

03:27:43.820 Yes.

03:27:44.820 No, I understand.

03:27:45.820 The argument of my essay was that the national socialism needs to be rehabilitated.

03:27:48.820 That needs to be defended in public discourse by nationalists, even if you don't want to embrace the label.

03:27:54.820 Which, which is the part that I agree with.

03:27:56.820 And I think there's a very simple argument here as to why it's necessary, which is, let's just be honest.

03:28:01.820 There's no, uh, you know, outcome that we could accept as, you know, uh, viable victory conditions, which would not allow for the open and honest discussion around that time period and national socialism as an ideology.

03:28:19.820 An easier way of saying this is that if, if we were to win in any capacity, then it would be, it would be socially acceptable to espouse national socialist ideology and to adapt that, um, those optics and that, um, identity, um, within your, your nation.

03:28:36.820 So it's kind of this weird thing, like, even if you don't want to adopt it, it's like, well, how are we going, how are we possibly going to win without it?

03:28:45.820 That being an acceptable position.

03:28:47.820 And, and as you said, too, it's like, there's no way around this quote.

03:28:50.420 I, I referred to it as the Hitler question, um, when it gets brought up, which is if you embrace any kind of legitimate national, um, you know, policy and worldview, um, what will inevitably happen is you will be accused of being a Nazi or, you know, doing what Hitler wanted or anything like that.

03:29:10.080 In which case, like you can't deny it, like you, you already brought it up, you mentioned it, which is the left isn't making these accusations because they're baseless.

03:29:18.120 Um, a lot of the times they're making a legitimate argument, which is that you're pursuing policies that, um, you know, national socialist Germany would have pursued.

03:29:26.140 They're correct.

03:29:27.180 And the response to that is not, well, no, I'm not a Nazi.

03:29:30.300 The response is yes.

03:29:31.740 Yes.

03:29:31.980 I do agree with those policies.

03:29:34.360 Um, I don't, even if you don't identify.

03:29:36.700 Like, what are we disagreeing with here?

03:29:38.140 Like, oh, let's not. 1.00

03:29:40.480 Remove Jews from all positions of power and get them out of our country. 1.00

03:29:43.420 Let's not get Freemasons out of all positions of power and remove them, uh, from, from political life. 0.98

03:29:49.900 Let's not get all Marxists out of politics and remove them from political life. 0.99

03:29:54.900 Why not just have a bunch of Jews, Masons, and fucking Marxists, like, you know, running our political system. 1.00

03:29:59.760 That would be great, wouldn't it? 1.00

03:30:00.960 Like, what's the policy that you disagree with?

03:30:02.380 Oh, let's not, you know, reorganize our society around, you know, breeding up the quality of our race

03:30:08.260 and preserving our racial homogeneity and, and, uh, our culture as a people. 0.99

03:30:14.560 I don't know, fuck that. 1.00

03:30:15.400 Why don't we just have, like, niggers living everywhere, right? 1.00

03:30:17.400 Like, it's like, I'm not saying that that's his position. 0.99

03:30:20.200 Obviously, he is a white nationalist.

03:30:21.480 But what I'm saying is, is like, what exactly are the concrete policies?

03:30:25.040 Like, we've got a nitpick over, like, a German-Slavic ethnic dispute.

03:30:29.480 Like, that's really, that's not what's definitive of national socialism.

03:30:34.040 National socialism isn't about the German-Slavic, you know, ethnic rivalry or Polish-German, like, you know, foreign policy or relations to one another in the 1930s.

03:30:45.480 Like, those are just, like, particular situations, but the general principles, the reason why, the reason why it's controversial to be a Nazi or to defend the Nazis is not because of what they did to Poland.

03:30:56.080 It's because of what they did, allegedly, to the Jews, right? 0.96

03:31:00.460 Right.

03:31:01.040 Like, so why are we going on about, like, in Poland, maybe that's relevant, but in Australia or in America or something, no one's crying about the Polish.

03:31:10.260 They're talking about the Holocaust.

03:31:12.720 They're talking about, you know, oh, Hitler was a dictator, and how dare a dictator come in and crush all of his political enemies.

03:31:23.180 That's what people are upset about.

03:31:24.980 So what, we don't want to have a dictator who's on our side come in and crush all of our political enemies?

03:31:30.260 Well, I disagree.

03:31:31.000 I think that would be awesome.

03:31:32.740 Why would I want my political enemies to continue having political power?

03:31:36.260 Like, this is what I mean.

03:31:37.520 I'm not a liberal.

03:31:38.280 Well, liberalism means tolerating your political enemies and giving them a role to play in your political system.

03:31:45.240 Well, how did that work out for us?

03:31:47.380 Not very well, so we shouldn't do that.

03:31:50.420 You know, when you get Weimar conditions, you need Weimar solutions.

03:31:55.820 Like, national socialism is the break glass option when liberalism creates a mess like this.

03:32:00.260 And if you tried to create an ideology that could deal with these problems and you call it a different name, people are going to hold it up and analyze, like, national socialism and this other ideology or whatever, this other political program. 0.97

03:32:13.720 They're going to be like, 90% of this shit is the same. 0.96

03:32:17.460 What are you going to say? 1.00

03:32:18.640 Oh, but I hate Hitler because he was mean to Slavs. 0.97

03:32:21.060 Like, it's just weak, you know?

03:32:23.960 The other thing I noticed with Keith as well, which I don't know if this is necessarily a contradiction or not, but I did find it interesting that Keith works as an Irish nationalist very well with British nationalists.

03:32:38.600 Mark Collett, Steve Laws, Zoomer historian, like, there's all these figures.

03:32:42.520 And it's like, all of these guys openly embrace a very chauvinistic British attitude.

03:32:49.080 They glorify the British Empire.

03:32:52.220 They glorify British colonialism.

03:32:54.160 So, like, how do you then, if your issue with German chauvinism is that it was oppressive towards other groups, then how do you then justify working with these guys who also adopt an attitude which, I mean, your country was, you know, technically a colony of?

03:33:08.600 Like, there's this weird kind of, it seems to me that Keith is not actually opposed to the chauvinism of, you know, certain groups of Europeans over others.

03:33:17.200 It's that he's opposed to the optics of national socialism because it's radioactive.

03:33:22.660 So, I don't know.

03:33:23.940 Yeah, well, controversial.

03:33:25.300 Obviously, it's extra controversial.

03:33:26.760 And Keith has a lot of friends in Poland.

03:33:28.700 And so he probably wants, and that's fair enough.

03:33:31.960 Like, he's got friends in Poland that he probably, friendships in Polish politics, he was kind of,

03:33:37.520 is defensive about.

03:33:39.380 I actually hung out with Keith in Poland before, in Warsaw.

03:33:43.760 I marched with Keith in the Polish Nationalist Day, like Independence Day March on the 11th of November in 2023.

03:33:55.300 Marched together.

03:33:56.200 I support Polish nationalism.

03:33:57.780 I don't have a problem with the Polish people.

03:33:59.320 I like Polish people.

03:34:00.340 So, it's not about me being, like, anti-Polish or anti, there's this, like, narrative of, oh, Joel Davis hates Slavs.

03:34:08.840 I don't.

03:34:09.200 I'm a massive appreciator of Slavic women. 1.00

03:34:11.840 I've said this many, many times.

03:34:12.940 So, no, I don't have a problem with Slavs.

03:34:18.440 I have expressed derision towards, like, Cypriots and Sicilians and some of these groups that, you know, that are very, like, blood poisoned. 1.00

03:34:26.920 But, you know, that's Australian anti-WOG racism.

03:34:31.140 But I don't, but I never expressed really negative views of Slavs at all, except maybe jokingly in, like, a group chat or something with banter.

03:34:38.700 But, like, that's not the same thing, is it?

03:34:40.460 So, I got no problem with Slavic peoples.

03:34:43.160 In fact, I like Slavic peoples a lot.

03:34:47.340 I went and marched with Keith for Polish nationalism.

03:34:51.020 But, like, my views on World War II remain the same.

03:34:54.500 Like, and there was a lot of other people at that march who were also national socialists and national socialist sympathizers who still marched for Polish nationalism who came from across Europe to support that.

03:35:04.860 Because we don't, being a national socialist doesn't mean that you hate Poland.

03:35:08.940 That's not what it means.

03:35:10.200 But it does mean you hate Jews and Marxists and Masons and, you know, liberalism and all these things. 0.94

03:35:16.660 And I think Keith hates all those people, too. 0.97

03:35:19.820 So, it's, like, you know, it's a bit silly, you know.

03:35:21.740 It's, I don't know, he's playing an optics game.

03:35:27.440 I think deep down, I remember, you know, I remember Keith Woods, you know, posting, like, a picture of young Hitler and being, like, literally me.

03:35:35.700 You know, like, he's kind of playing the game.

03:35:38.140 I know him pretty well.

03:35:40.100 I've known him for years.

03:35:42.500 Maybe he's convinced himself of this position.

03:35:44.400 But I don't think it's super serious.

03:35:46.580 Now, that's different than openly identifying as a national socialist.

03:35:49.120 He's never did that.

03:35:49.860 But I don't think his view is as negative as he claims it to be.

03:35:53.860 Oh, I've never openly identified.

03:35:57.320 I don't identify as a national socialist.

03:35:59.580 I just, I, frankly, I don't know enough about the ideology to take on that role.

03:36:04.260 And that's not something I'm going to do.

03:36:05.560 But, obviously, I don't shy away from discussions.

03:36:08.820 I mean, obviously, I've said, like, I'm a Nazi and stuff.

03:36:11.780 But that, like, in the, like, the taboo sense.

03:36:16.020 And they're like, yeah, okay, I'm a Nazi.

03:36:17.460 Fine.

03:36:17.720 Whatever.

03:36:18.340 But I've never openly embraced that label.

03:36:20.360 It gets thrown at me all the time.

03:36:21.360 But, frankly, I don't care.

03:36:24.620 This is why I don't understand the guys who shirk away from it.

03:36:27.440 It's like, just whatever.

03:36:28.840 Like, it doesn't.

03:36:30.620 Just because you don't, yeah, you don't actually have to identify it.

03:36:33.700 But you also don't have to shirk away from the label and actively, you know, try to.

03:36:40.360 Part of this is also just, I think, maybe Australian, the Australian attitude as well.

03:36:44.440 We're very blunt people.

03:36:46.200 And so, it's probably a reason why, if you look at, like, the world, like, the English-speaking world in particular.

03:36:52.540 Why is, like, the Australian right, like, uniquely, like, Nazi? 0.68

03:36:57.960 Yeah. 1.00

03:36:58.120 And I think part of the reason for that is there's an Australian kind of attitude of, like, cut the shit. 1.00

03:37:05.000 Like, you know, like, let's just call people down kind of thing. 1.00

03:37:09.620 Whereas, that kind of, like, straight shooting, go hard or go home kind of attitude.

03:37:17.260 And so, I understand that in other countries, the approach is going to be different.

03:37:20.860 And I'm not sitting here saying everyone in every country needs to do it the way that we're doing it.

03:37:25.680 But it would be nice if, it would be nice to get more understanding of our position from people in other countries.

03:37:35.620 Rather than always, like, you know, giving these kind of low effort kind of objections. 0.98

03:37:42.680 I feel like there's a lot of people who just peddle this bullshit all the time online. 0.99

03:37:46.940 And, oh, Joel Davis, he hates Thomas Sewell. 1.00

03:37:49.500 They hate non-whites because they defend the policy of Laban's realm. 1.00

03:37:53.880 Or, like, sorry, they hate other white groups like Slavs and Meds. 0.98

03:37:59.900 Or because we said this or we said that.

03:38:03.040 It's like, we literally have Slavs and Meds in our organization.

03:38:06.600 Like, Tom's kids are, like, part Med.

03:38:08.940 Like, his missus is, like, half Balkan.

03:38:13.320 Like, we obviously don't hate these people.

03:38:16.520 Like, they're our friends and, like, comrades.

03:38:18.840 We are proud Anglo-Saxons, you know, and so on.

03:38:23.620 And, like, we defend National Socialist Germany historically as, like, the force in the modern world which most profoundly stood up for the values which our race needs.

03:38:37.940 And that doesn't mean that we hate these people at all.

03:38:41.380 So, it's like, there's not – there's often these kinds of – I'm not saying Keith did this.

03:38:45.420 He was, like, more fair on this question.

03:38:47.500 But a lot of other people in the space, they push that at us, like, in the scene.

03:38:53.680 And it's like, you're not really sincerely trying to, like, hear the nuance of what I'm saying or try and understand my motivations.

03:39:01.480 You're just trying to, like, score some kind of gotcha points because often they have anti-Anglo sentiments or whatever.

03:39:08.680 And it's the same – it's kind of like the reverse.

03:39:13.360 Like, you know, Polish people or Irish people can sometimes, when they talk about the British Empire or about the Germans, they can almost start sounding like leftists.

03:39:21.560 There's, like, an inferiority complex from many, like, of these European ethnic groups or people of certain areas that kind of comes to the surface. 0.96

03:39:30.640 And it's, like, when it's anti-Anglo or when it's anti-German kind of seething, that's worse, in my opinion, because it's, like, that's kind of, like – it's, like, mirroring leftism.

03:39:43.640 It's kind of, like, the same way that non-whites or, like, Jews or whatever, like, feel towards us. 0.99

03:39:48.720 It's that same fundamental temperament just, like, within the European race. 1.00

03:39:52.440 That is always given a pass, and then if you punch back, then you're an anti-white piece of shit who's, like, you know, destroying the movement or something. 1.00

03:40:01.180 And it's, like, hey, wait a second. 1.00

03:40:02.460 Like, like, so what – as an Anglo-Saxon, I have to, like, subordinate myself through all these, like, less impressive ethnic groups? 0.87

03:40:12.280 Like, no, I believe in hierarchy. 0.94

03:40:14.300 Like, the Anglo-Saxon and the German accomplished more for the European race than the fucking Irishman or the Pole, right? 0.99

03:40:25.300 So, like, know your fucking place to an extent. 0.98

03:40:27.440 And that's not going to hit the Irish anti-Polish statement, but it's, like, you know, we're kind of, like, player one and player two, and you guys are, like, player 15 and player, like, 23, right? 0.99

03:40:39.500 Like, you're not the main players, so it's, like, there's some seed from a lot of these elements that comes out, and, like, that never gets called out.

03:40:47.680 That's never kind of addressed.

03:40:49.540 We have to always count out to them, and it's, like – it's kind of, like, this kind of micro-leftism, basically.

03:40:55.960 And I find that distasteful.

03:40:58.100 Like, we should celebrate greatness.

03:41:00.180 Like, I celebrate the greatness of the pinnacle of, like, Greek civilization.

03:41:05.940 I don't descend directly from, you know, the Spartans.

03:41:10.640 Like, maybe there is, like, ancestors because it's been so long and so much immigration within Europe.

03:41:14.420 Maybe I do have some blood in me from the ancient Greeks, right?

03:41:17.380 But let's say I don't.

03:41:19.120 I can look at ancient Greek civilization and go, wow, like, at its pinnacle, that was maybe, like, the best group of people ever, like, potentially.

03:41:28.680 Like, they're a candidate.

03:41:29.380 Like, incredible achievements in philosophy and culture and so on, incredible art, et cetera.

03:41:35.940 I can go, wow, what a people.

03:41:38.340 And I can just celebrate that as, like, a great expression of our race. 0.99

03:41:41.760 I don't have to seethe about it because I'm an Anglo-Saxon and, like, I feel mogged by Greeks or some shit. 1.00

03:41:47.620 Like, you know, that's just really pathetic and gay. 1.00

03:41:51.760 Like, we should celebrate excellence. 0.99

03:41:54.340 And you can't look at the National Socialists of Germany and go, that's not excellence. 0.99

03:42:00.100 I mean, look at the fucking Nuremberg rally. 0.98

03:42:02.320 Look at, like, look at what was achieved in such a short period of time and what was achieved by the Germans. 0.99

03:42:07.280 It's incredible.

03:42:08.520 It's the most incredible thing that happened in the 20th century.

03:42:11.440 Hitler was, like, an artist beyond a politician. 0.75

03:42:14.460 There isn't a single historical figure that even comes close to Adolf Hitler in significance since Jesus Christ.

03:42:24.480 Like, how can you just go, you know what?

03:42:27.600 Let's just ignore that.

03:42:28.600 Who cares?

03:42:29.420 Like, yeah.

03:42:30.500 Yeah.

03:42:31.440 We should celebrate.

03:42:33.160 You know, people say that in Australia.

03:42:34.260 Oh, we should look to our Australian nationalist, you know, history and just talk about why are we talking about Hitler?

03:42:42.300 You know, we should be talking about Alfred Deacon.

03:42:44.580 And it's like, I do look to the Australian nationalist history.

03:42:48.060 That's our history.

03:42:48.980 And I do venerate our ancestors and take very seriously our national history.

03:42:53.600 But, like, these dudes weren't Hitler, you know?

03:42:57.980 Yeah.

03:42:58.420 And just because I'm an Australian doesn't mean I can't admire, like, do I have to only read Australian philosophers?

03:43:02.820 Like, I can't read, like, Nietzsche or Hegel or Schopenhauer because they're not Australian. 1.00

03:43:07.620 I can't listen to, like, Mozart or Wagner because they're not Australian. 1.00

03:43:11.300 Like, I can't drive, like, a fucking, you know, I can't drive a Lamborghini because it's not Australian. 1.00

03:43:18.420 It's like Italians make sexy sports cars. 1.00

03:43:20.720 Germans do better philosophy.

03:43:22.020 Like, if there's another European people that do something better than us, why can't you just, like, I'd rather take that in rather than have this kind of, like, mindless parochial.

03:43:33.820 So, the same people who would tell you that you, like, you know, something along the lines of, like, why are you building your movement around a German philosophy from 100 years ago?

03:43:46.740 Like, what does this have to do with Australia?

03:43:48.760 Those same types of people would be the ones who are going make Australia great again. 0.96

03:43:53.080 I fucking love Donald Trump. 0.95

03:43:54.580 Like, we got to, you know, like, they'll embrace other foreign ideologies like nothing. 0.99

03:44:00.560 So, it's always a cop-out.

03:44:02.580 It's just them not wanting that particular optics or that particular philosophy to influence Australian or Canadian politics.

03:44:10.820 They have no problem with other foreign ideologies or foreign movements influencing politics.

03:44:18.020 So, it's just a...

03:44:18.820 Australia was built on importing a foreign ideology.

03:44:23.020 Everything was imported into Australia from Europe.

03:44:25.160 Like, Australia is importing...

03:44:27.760 Australia is imported from Europe.

03:44:30.120 Like, the whole country is imported from Europe. 0.74

03:44:31.820 So, like, why can't we keep importing?

03:44:33.540 Like, it doesn't...

03:44:35.160 That doesn't make any sense, first of all.

03:44:36.700 Second of all, Australian white nationalism is...

03:44:41.160 Take a lot of influence and we...

03:44:44.280 I see our movement as, like, the sixth...

03:44:46.240 There's, like, the kind of waving the flag that they waved originally.

03:44:49.740 Like, we inherit that movement.

03:44:52.300 But the Australian...

03:44:54.000 Australian white nationalism before World War II was liberal.

03:44:57.640 It wasn't fundamentally illiberal.

03:45:00.440 Because liberalism hadn't fallen into a crisis here like it had in Germany.

03:45:05.660 And so...

03:45:07.060 But it has now.

03:45:08.320 And so, when you go, okay, liberalism has fallen into a crisis.

03:45:12.480 Like, the Germans are the kind of ground zero of, like, nationalism and liberalism, you know, divorcing each other and fighting each other and, like, the implications of that. 0.84

03:45:24.760 So, we have to look to the Germans. 0.97

03:45:27.360 Because that's where this process began.

03:45:29.600 Like, we can't just repeat what the Australian nationalists did because they were operating in a completely different paradigm.

03:45:36.580 They, you know, as I said, like...

03:45:41.060 So, you have to kind of appreciate this relationship between liberalism and nationalism and this dialectical shift through history.

03:45:46.840 That was a key to that essay.

03:45:48.440 And that's an idea, I think, that maybe a lot of people in the scene don't grasp intellectually.

03:45:53.780 But I've seen no one actually capable or provide a capable critique of that as of yet.

03:46:02.620 So, I think it's pretty robust and solid.

03:46:06.340 But, yeah.

03:46:08.820 Yeah.

03:46:09.340 So, anyway.

03:46:09.940 A lot of it is, yeah.

03:46:11.960 You just don't want to deal with the optical issues or the social penalties of defending Hitler and the Nazis or whatever.

03:46:18.860 And so, you just try to find an excuse out of doing that rather than, like, come to terms with reality.

03:46:26.340 And, yeah.

03:46:27.780 That's not what we're in the business of doing.

03:46:29.420 And also, I believe in the power of Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists to be inspiring. 0.99

03:46:34.340 Like, I think it's the most inspiring political movement in the modern world.

03:46:38.240 I don't think we should deprive ourselves of drawing from its power and its, you know, from its inspiration.

03:46:49.140 We need to channel that energy again.

03:46:52.480 That's the energy that we need.

03:46:54.400 Like, the white race is in a very precarious position. 0.67

03:46:56.620 That's the energy that we need.

03:46:58.940 So, you know, that's...

03:47:02.380 There's more to be said about this.

03:47:03.620 We could talk about this forever, but maybe that's a good place to end it.

03:47:06.880 Yeah, I'm coming up on 2 o'clock in the morning, my time.

03:47:09.760 So, I'm starting to fade here.

03:47:14.020 What I was going to say, though, as well, though, is I think part of the objection to, you know, being associated with the ideology is that, obviously, for a long time, you know, for better or worse,

03:47:25.320 the people who have embraced national socialism as an ideology are not great representatives of it in its true form.

03:47:33.060 And they've, you know, they've used it as a kind of symbol of antisocial, you know, behavior.

03:47:38.800 So, obviously, I'm referring to a certain extent to, like, you know, the typical Hollywood kind of representation of skinheads.

03:47:44.940 And even this kind of attitude exists.

03:47:50.020 My dog is... 0.99

03:47:51.200 This is the other reason why my dog is saying it's fucking bedtime. 0.99

03:47:54.940 Let's go. 0.99

03:47:56.860 It's getting pissed off.

03:47:58.220 But they aren't the greatest representation.

03:48:01.500 There's a desire to not be associated with those kinds of, you know, personalities.

03:48:06.720 So, you can understand why that is to a certain extent.

03:48:11.020 And, frankly, a lot of these people don't actually embody that rhetoric. 0.99

03:48:17.780 This is why I say, like, part of the reason why I don't take on that branding is because, frankly, I think a lot of people who claim to be national socialists have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. 0.95

03:48:27.560 And if you start getting into it with them very briefly, you can tell that they've adopted... 0.98

03:48:32.240 Yeah, they're probably racist and nationalistic in their thinking.

03:48:36.320 And they embrace some of the, you know, worldview of national socialism.

03:48:42.440 But their understanding of the ideology is very limited.

03:48:47.000 And so, like, I don't want to be that person who's trying to represent an ideology that I don't fully understand.

03:48:51.320 And I've gone through a period of trying to read a lot of the deeper philosophy that underpins national socialism over the last year.

03:49:00.720 And whether it's, you know, a new nobility of blood and soil or the policy program or, you know, Richard Tater's Hitler's revolution, stuff like that, just to actually understand it.

03:49:10.080 And you start realizing that the truly interesting part of national socialism is the rise and how they've created that movement.

03:49:17.800 And, like, that is, as you said, inspiring and something that we can look to as guidance of, like, well, how did they actually build this nationalist movement?

03:49:25.360 How did they reclaim that kind of folkish spirit?

03:49:29.180 That is worth getting into.

03:49:30.960 So that's the part that interests me.

03:49:33.940 I'm not particularly interested in, you know, the offensiveness of the symbols or the taboo nature of the topic.

03:49:45.860 But I do, obviously, find it very interesting to dig into these topics and learn from that period in history.

03:49:53.080 So, I don't know.

03:49:53.740 That's just my take on it.

03:49:55.520 I agree with you. 0.99

03:49:56.340 But, like, in terms of, like, not wanting to be associated with certain people, I don't want to be associated with conservative faggots. 1.00

03:50:01.340 And that's what happens when you do this kind of anti-Nazi purge campaign on your own nationalist movement. 0.99

03:50:08.080 You end up coxervative coding yourself. 0.85

03:50:14.820 And this is played out many, many times over and over again.

03:50:17.700 And then it attracts risk-averse, neurotic people that don't have a radical personality, that are non-creative, that then end up capitulating to the establishment to various degrees.

03:50:31.440 And the beautiful thing about embracing national socialism is that you can – and the taboo-breaking way is you completely liberate yourself from being tone-policed by the, you know, leftist morality, the anti-Nazi kind of moral paradigm that we're living in still of 80 years later, which is what is necessary for whites to win.

03:50:57.340 And, like, there has to be, like, there has to be a total breakdown.

03:51:00.880 It won't just gradually, like, fade away.

03:51:03.500 Like, it has to be confronted and actively destroyed through direct, intentional taboo-breaking.

03:51:10.340 So I think the taboo-breaking itself has, like, inherent value.

03:51:13.540 But then also you're correct, though, that people who don't educate themselves anywhere near enough on national socialism, even people who are sympathetic to it and embrace the label.

03:51:22.240 And that's something that I'm working on, like, this – we're working on developing more sophisticated educational materials for – within the organization and for the future party.

03:51:34.160 And we're going to then make those probably publicly available to at least a limited extent to help try and fix that problem.

03:51:41.860 We need higher quality national socialist accessible intellectual education.

03:51:48.240 Like, Marxists are very good at educating their activists and their people in their ideology.

03:51:53.500 Liberals are very good at it as well.

03:51:55.220 Like, when you go to university and you study, like, pretty much any politically relevant degree, you go and get a degree in liberalism or a degree in Marxism, basically.

03:52:03.400 Like, we don't have that as national socialists.

03:52:06.260 We have an unsophisticated political movement in many respects.

03:52:10.560 As a result, we have a lot of really intelligent, bright, sensitive young men who, despite that, are just, you know, autodidacts or kind of, you know, exceptional individuals who still drive some of the most interesting, I think, intellectual discourse of any scene.

03:52:28.580 But we don't do a very good job of translating that down to, like, the kind of, like, grug, kind of, like, mass audience or whatever for online racism.

03:52:39.460 So we need to kind of improve in that respect.

03:52:42.220 But, yeah.

03:52:43.700 But, yeah.

03:52:44.640 We can leave it there.

03:52:46.140 Yeah.

03:52:46.300 If your dog wants you to go to bed.

03:52:48.400 Yeah.

03:52:49.060 He's been pretty good of just – this has been a long one, obviously.

03:52:55.040 Yeah, that was great.

03:52:56.220 I'm glad we got into that because I've actually wanted to talk to you about that topic for a while, and it was great.

03:53:02.040 You just went for, like, I don't know, 25 minutes just laying it out.

03:53:05.160 It was perfect.

03:53:05.960 So people seemed to really like that.

03:53:08.660 So it was great.

03:53:11.580 Yeah, and you got your stream later.

03:53:13.520 So, you know, if people want to check that out, go check it out.

03:53:17.140 I don't know what your handle is on Rumble, but –

03:53:20.620 It's just Joel Davis.

03:53:22.600 Rumble.com slash C slash Joel Davis.

03:53:25.060 There you go.

03:53:26.180 You'll be able to find our streams on Rumble.

03:53:29.720 I'm also on Odyssey.

03:53:30.940 That's Joel Davis.

03:53:32.560 Follow me on Telegram.

03:53:34.580 My Telegram handle is JoelDavis underscore X.

03:53:39.020 My previous Telegram channel, JoelDavisX, was banned.

03:53:43.220 So I had to make – or app banned or whatever.

03:53:45.420 So I had to make JoelDavis underscore X.

03:53:48.060 That's the best place to follow me, and I put all the links to the streams there.

03:53:51.640 And, obviously, I'm pretty much banned from every mainstream social media platform.

03:53:56.400 So –

03:53:57.580 Yeah.

03:53:58.880 All right.

03:53:59.880 A couple came in there right at the end there.

03:54:02.900 Dr. Genstein says, we appreciate, gentlemen.

03:54:05.740 Thank you.

03:54:06.700 And longest daily toll stream in history.

03:54:09.720 Love you, Strider.

03:54:11.600 Yeah.

03:54:11.960 Thanks, Genstein.

03:54:12.760 Appreciate that.

03:54:14.420 And, yeah.

03:54:15.120 All right.

03:54:16.620 Sorry.

03:54:17.140 Home of the Brave says, Joel's streaming with Tom tonight.

03:54:19.140 I think you said that, yeah, Tom's jumping on with you, right?

03:54:22.880 I have to speak to him about whether he's going to jump on tonight.

03:54:26.380 I haven't actually raised it with him.

03:54:27.940 Probably will.

03:54:28.600 He likes jumping on.

03:54:29.720 But Blair and I will be streaming, and I'll see if Tom wants to jump on.

03:54:34.520 Probably he will.

03:54:37.640 Yeah.

03:54:39.160 All right.

03:54:40.180 Well, I'm going to go to bed.

03:54:42.080 Thanks a lot for jumping on.

03:54:43.120 It was fun.

03:54:43.460 It's been a while.

03:54:44.040 And, yeah, we went through a bunch of different topics.

03:54:45.880 Yeah.

03:54:46.320 It was good to catch up.

03:54:47.320 You know, I love what you guys are doing in Canada.

03:54:52.020 We're trying.

03:54:52.880 Kind of like equivalent.

03:54:54.060 You're kind of like our equivalent in Canada.

03:54:57.940 Obviously, every country is different, so you do things differently.

03:55:00.500 But it's kind of like you're like the our guys there.

03:55:03.420 So always good to stream.

03:55:06.560 Yeah.

03:55:06.900 I think there's just a topic, too, that maybe we can't really get into right this second.

03:55:12.960 But there is it's almost like there's a connection there that wasn't between Australia and Canada that should have been fostered that wasn't.

03:55:21.500 You know what I mean?

03:55:21.840 There's like this this this duality between them, north, south and these similar kind of, you know, histories that in a in a different time period, if the empire had survived, those connections would have been fostered and facilitated and strengthened and whatnot.

03:55:38.800 And you can kind of see that like there's from what I've seen, especially the interactions online between our guys and your guys.

03:55:44.960 There's just just this natural kind of meshing that occurs where they kind of go on together.

03:55:50.820 Well, so I don't know if you've noticed that as well, but I do find that interesting.

03:55:54.880 And yeah, yeah, I have.

03:55:56.140 I have noticed that.

03:55:57.620 And it's obvious why, like literally just cousin, cousin people.

03:56:03.540 So it makes sense.

03:56:05.040 And Canadian politics has a lot of very similar dynamics to Australian politics as well.

03:56:10.420 So, yeah, I think we should pay attention to what's going on in each other's countries a lot, not just because of the sentimental or like basic reasons of affinity, but also because there's probably a lot to learn from, from watching each other.

03:56:28.120 Same also watching what's going on in Britain.

03:56:30.280 But I think Australia and Canada are like almost more similar to each other in some respects than either of us are to the British system.

03:56:35.620 So, yeah, we should definitely study what's going on in each other's, particularly for nationalists, study what works, because what works here will probably have some bearing on what works there and vice versa and what doesn't.

03:56:49.800 And yeah.

03:56:51.500 So, and obviously there's a lot we can do to help each other out.

03:56:54.340 I mean, in the sense of, you know, whenever there's a issue in Canadian politics that white nationalists are raising, the, you know, the Anglosphere in general is like going to be very supportive of nationalists in Canada and that can help amplify certain messaging and the same for us.

03:57:10.580 Like we're all banned from social media, but we have so many friends and supporters around the world that they often amplify things in Australian politics that we're trying to raise and that like mutual benefit of like the global pro-white movement, I think helps everyone, like helps the guys in Britain, helps people in America, et cetera.

03:57:32.780 So, yeah, obviously it's, it's good to have like a kind of like global, like a white globalism, if you will. 0.75

03:57:43.460 Yeah.

03:57:44.600 The, the, the hive mind, the Anglo hive mind is synchronizing. 0.98

03:57:51.540 Like once again, it's getting back there.

03:57:54.240 So, all right, well, we'll let you go.

03:57:57.220 Thanks a lot for jumping on and cheers, everybody.

03:57:59.780 I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend and I'll be back tomorrow night, our time for a plat army stream.

03:58:07.600 So cheers.

03:58:12.340 Blood and honor, white power, hail victory. 1.00

03:58:16.980 14 words.

03:58:18.280 All right.

03:58:18.700 Cheers, everybody.

The Ferryman's Toll - August 03, 2025

The Daily Toll with Joel Davis - 02-08-25

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