The Ferryman's Toll - The Daily Toll with Thomas Rousseau

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01:43:58.320 like a certain kind of energy to that room because who are these guys right um and that's

01:44:04.160 the effect that you're going for whenever you are doing these organized marches you're you're

01:44:07.820 correct you're not trying to be normal you're trying to bring something you know abnormal

01:44:11.640 you know to well i mean the the situation we find ourselves in is abnormal so you know the response

01:44:18.400 to it i don't know how you're supposed to have a normal response to this incredibly you know

01:44:23.100 strange predicament that we found ourselves in collectively as nations but um the other

01:44:28.240 thing too that you were touching on there is i don't understand why this is so complicated for

01:44:32.300 people to understand that the value of organization organizing is organized like that is the purpose

01:44:38.600 of it in and of itself because yeah in order to achieve anything like whether it's in you know

01:44:44.820 business or sports or it doesn't really matter the sophistication of your ability to organize

01:44:51.700 is what allows you to i'm sorry your your your capability in organizing is what allows you to

01:44:58.980 reach higher and higher levels of sophistication in what you're organizing for so if i like i just don't

01:45:04.520 get why people understand if you can't organize 50 guys to you know do a demonstration or or march

01:45:10.200 how do you expect to organize thousands of people to manage a country or a political party let's say that

01:45:16.040 that spreads you know the entire course so these are all steps in you know the reason you tribe and

01:45:21.380 train is to practice organizing not not that's it's not about the push-ups or the march or anything

01:45:26.640 yeah yeah look at your opponents right i mean in canada you know the indians come over you think 1.00

01:45:32.080 they aren't organized you think they're all just no they're working together they're pooling resources

01:45:36.600 they're all sacrificing a little bit of their comfort for property and institutions and establishments

01:45:41.800 they're taking over institutions you know in the trucking and they're doing that in america too

01:45:45.580 you'll be in you know the the most absolutely rural part of america you know which i'm fond of

01:45:51.500 um and you'll see a seek you know abu dhabi type whatever you know the the great golly goodness type

01:45:58.860 store you know selling their i don't know cow dung i've never purchased one i assume it's all some

01:46:04.140 variation of cow dung but um again they're doing that not because not because they're inherently

01:46:10.280 extremely capable people but because they're organized yes they're incredibly organized um

01:46:15.840 and they've always you know i mean for them they've always been organized they never had

01:46:19.500 this kind of great atomization you know that we have and i mean the same is true for the muslims i 0.82

01:46:24.040 mean it's definitely true for the jews um you know it's true for a lot of people and i mean it's even

01:46:27.760 true for people of particular political subsets on the left and maybe some on the right but really it's

01:46:33.820 not as popular as it should be as it should be reasonably among americans or canadians just as

01:46:39.680 those of our native ethnic stock in aggregate um you know so and we should know if the last

01:46:46.080 100 years 80 years you know 60 years i one of those if that's not evidence enough that a small

01:46:53.520 determined organized and self-sacrificial you know group can take over or achieve you know very

01:47:01.380 sufficient gains against a larger lesser organized you know less you know sacrificial group then i don't

01:47:08.800 know what is but it's extremely obvious that is the case um and when you're talking about the mask

01:47:12.720 you know we've done that stuff too um i mean not specifically there isn't a specific instance with

01:47:17.400 a with a uh with a city hall or a town hall meeting but um everybody's always saying all the

01:47:22.480 conservatives on twitter they're saying oh masks masks masks masks oh masks oh they'll never take

01:47:27.200 off the masks and then sometimes we do stuff where people's faces are out you know i had a few guys with

01:47:31.040 me just talking casually candidly on camera with you know jake shields and we got some coffee and

01:47:37.860 where's the comment about oh my god they finally took off their masks they must be real now

01:47:42.300 you know there's a lot of these people that they just want to critique they just want to critique

01:47:47.320 they just want to throw slings and arrows at something that they don't think is good enough

01:47:50.500 but you can really tell when somebody's worth their salt if you know when they actually have an

01:47:56.060 opportunity to do the right thing they'll say hey we have met your metric we have done the right

01:48:01.340 thing we have done something which should be good enough for you uh are you going to suddenly start

01:48:05.120 being supportive and constructive and building with us oh no you're just going to go and critique

01:48:08.800 somebody else it's like okay maybe maybe you're just a crit account you know yeah well it's yeah it's

01:48:15.140 just moving goalposts when when you so like you know it'll start with oh there's just 10 guys well

01:48:20.660 then when there's 100 guys it'll be oh well they're you know they're doing it with masks on and then

01:48:24.840 if there's a thousand guys without masks on they'll be doing i don't know like i i get complaints

01:48:28.840 about you know our aesthetic or you know you should be doing this weird like it's like there'll always

01:48:34.560 be somebody yeah it doesn't matter what it is you're just going to find the thing that gives you the

01:48:38.540 excuse to either not get involved or you know i'm not afraid of competition like by all means start a

01:48:44.720 competing organization that has similar values or you know values that are in opposition to us and you

01:48:51.540 know show me show me a different way and you know if you can uh surpass us then well i didn't want to

01:48:58.940 do this we we debated doing like this was 2023 that we started the conversation about actually doing

01:49:06.020 this and the reason why we didn't is because we're like somebody's going to do it that's not us

01:49:09.320 like i like i didn't feel that i had any really real place to do this and then slowly the dawning

01:49:14.240 realization is that nobody else is going to do it uh in in canada so or or if they are going to they're

01:49:20.920 not going to be able to do it the way that like we had the ability to so you know i guess it's on

01:49:24.940 us um but i would practically the same thing happened to me yeah continue yeah i would i would

01:49:29.260 welcome somebody you know rising up and doing it way better than us and i could just be like all

01:49:33.920 right guys like this is this is the guy it's not me i would rather not be um frankly no for sure

01:49:40.100 when i was really you know really early on getting started out um you know i was in you know a tiny

01:49:46.200 little group um you know really early on when i first joined a group and uh and i didn't want to

01:49:52.480 be a leader and i just kept finding myself in a position where i was the guy in the room that

01:49:56.800 other people would look to um and i think the first time i got any little role which was you know

01:50:01.480 entirely inconsequential in the modern scope of things um but it was because you know the the guy

01:50:07.420 who was running the little chapter at the time was like oh well you just you know you seem a lot older

01:50:10.760 than the other guy so i just swapped you out um and i was like well how old do you think i am he's

01:50:15.100 like oh you're probably 22 23 it's like i'm 17 and the guy you just swapped me out for was also 17

01:50:21.120 he's like oh well you seem more mature anyway so you know and and then you know after you know the

01:50:25.720 whole thing with you know vanguard america you know the other the other group happened um you know there

01:50:30.700 were there was like two instances where there was some like leadership change up in the air and there

01:50:34.880 were a few guys and you know everybody was just kind of standing around this job and two times

01:50:40.780 you know during this thing i was like nope i'm not the guy you know i'll help out the guy i'll be

01:50:45.560 good for that you know but i'm just here to help i'm just here to do the right thing and when i

01:50:48.580 originally messaged you know the group again you know this was all when i was very young very formative

01:50:53.100 i didn't message them saying that i wanted to join i just messaged saying hey maybe i'll make y'all

01:50:58.220 some posters maybe i'll share some stuff on on facebook or whatever people were sharing stuff on back

01:51:02.720 then um i never and i just ended up as a member because there was no vetting because uh 2017 was a

01:51:08.100 was a nightmare is what it was but uh you know i just kept finding myself in that position and then

01:51:12.360 after charlottesville i realized that there isn't you know you can stand around you know the leadership

01:51:18.280 hat um and you can wait for somebody else to put it on but after a few times of seeing somebody else

01:51:25.180 do that you know i figured i should put it on i figured you know probably a good time for me to

01:51:29.760 actually go you know go my way try this out and you know i'm lucky enough to have grown as a man

01:51:36.620 and as an organizer entirely simultaneously you know i am probably one of the very few people on

01:51:42.900 the planet who has found his life's purpose you know before adulthood and i have never had a primary

01:51:49.680 focus in my life except for that you know the service to the nation has been my entire life since i

01:51:56.980 before i was an adult right my 100 of my adult life and part of my practically my childhood has been

01:52:03.620 dedicated to a singular objective through which everything else is tied and i know it sounds

01:52:08.460 very grandiose but i think it's it's very important to realize you know that this is something this is

01:52:14.820 the purpose right this is something which enlightens and it emboldens and it electrifies everything else

01:52:21.640 you do in life um to live with a purpose to something greater um and people need to ask themselves

01:52:27.680 you know how high in your list of priorities is the cause now again you know it doesn't mean you

01:52:33.940 know and some people say this is a very common thing you know that you see with people who do not

01:52:37.780 understand patriot front they do not understand what we're at they say well you know i don't know i

01:52:41.780 don't know if i could be an activist or i could join because you know well i've got a family or i've

01:52:45.080 got a business or that's great right we love people that are invested in the world if we weren't

01:52:49.840 invested in the world we wouldn't be doing any of the things that we're doing again it's about the

01:52:54.160 alignment of interests right the individual the organizational and the national interest must be

01:53:00.360 absolutely synthesized and then it's all in the best interest but again you have to synthesize them

01:53:06.920 you have to understand that it's connected and you need to orient them right that doesn't mean that

01:53:12.260 doesn't mean that just thinking that what you're doing personally is good enough it means making

01:53:16.400 sacrifices and corrections to the smaller because again you can manipulate your individual

01:53:22.020 interest what's good for you you can change that a lot more easily than you can for what's good for

01:53:27.260 the nation because what's good for the nation will always be the same right that's natural law that's

01:53:32.940 primordial you don't get to decide that what's good for the organization is what's good for the

01:53:37.600 nation what's good for the individual can be what's good for the organization again align those

01:53:41.540 things change your life to be what you have to be but you know that hey it's i always like uh you have

01:53:52.560 a way with words thomas you have uh again too i think i know several by now i've seen uh it's funny we

01:53:59.600 got into your you know your youth and that this has been your whole life i do think that's kind of

01:54:03.320 funny because i have seen criticism of you that's all he's he's young and and uh i am older in i'm

01:54:09.740 older in organizing years than than a lot of people you know if we're counting counting years

01:54:13.820 as leader of a group i think i think i'm one of the oldest people around absolutely but the thing

01:54:19.540 i find so funny about that criticism especially when it comes from americans is i think that they

01:54:23.940 forget uh you know because we could just go look at any of your founding fathers and you know people

01:54:29.400 are often shocked at how many of them were 20 21 23 they were oh yeah there was a lot of youth

01:54:35.340 in in the founding fathers of of america so uh i think uh this is part of the problem here is that

01:54:42.100 uh i've maybe age has become dismissive of youth particularly in the right wing um there's there's a

01:54:50.340 lot of dismissal about youthful energy and and the direction of youth and harnessing youth and

01:54:55.040 you know i see this a lot i don't know if it's the same in say the gop but in canada if you observe

01:55:01.100 any of the right-wing political parties you know meetings or conferences it's just great it's a

01:55:06.760 sea of gray hair and bald spots and that's not a retirement home yeah it's not to denigrate you

01:55:13.900 know seniors or something like that it's to say like this is this is death like this like how do

01:55:19.200 you expect your like like if you have any you know subscription to just natural law like do you

01:55:25.140 not look at you know the room around you and see like if we don't change this our ideology is dead

01:55:30.640 for good or for worse like whether or not you agree with it doesn't matter it's just how do you not

01:55:34.840 look at that situation and say we need an injection of youth into our parties or into our uh organizations

01:55:41.780 or we are going to die as as an organization and yeah i did so much so much crust so much old you know 0.51

01:55:50.000 old bones have built up around the mechanisms aside i i heard a stat or a fact uh recently that uh

01:55:56.180 obama who i'm not a fan of just in case anybody was wondering uh was the only president

01:56:00.460 ever to be born when hawaii or alaska were were states right every president before and after him

01:56:08.500 has been you know born like in the 40s you know which is just it i mean again there's nothing wrong

01:56:15.740 with being old in itself but there's just an entrenching quality it has in the human psyche i

01:56:20.820 think it's a fundamental thing that we as nationalists people who understand natural law need to understand

01:56:25.360 that you in your mind you know as far as you exist in your mind you are not entirely infallible

01:56:31.040 to the natural conditions which bind you you know if you're really old you're going to be caught up by

01:56:36.740 that that's going to affect your quality you know just just like you know races have different qualities

01:56:41.620 you know in aggregate especially just like you know uh men like nations will always be defined by

01:56:46.820 the circumstances of their birth right there is nature is leaning on you all the time and people

01:56:54.160 are different and their condition will affect how they think and how they act and their value right

01:56:59.740 which people don't like to hear because they thought might think oh well what if that applies to me

01:57:03.840 it does it does in every case to everybody in some degree and you need to understand that because

01:57:09.460 waging war against it is waging war against nature and thus yourself and you lose every time but you know

01:57:14.760 going back to you know your point about people uh discrediting me about my youth and it doesn't

01:57:19.800 happen as much now as it used to i think you know i think we've made a lot of progress on that

01:57:23.260 but i remember yeah i'm older now that helps the beard helps that's why i grew it so i look old

01:57:28.660 um but i remember early on and i felt i felt a little strange because you know i would be going around

01:57:34.420 you know leading these guys and i'm you know 19 i'm 20 and there's some dude who did eight years in the

01:57:39.840 marine corps and he just called me sir it's like excuse me you know mr russo is my father

01:57:44.460 thank you very much uh which is a line i still use sometimes but uh you know it's it's there's

01:57:50.000 there was a bit of you know i feel like you know am i really and that's why i've always had

01:57:53.280 uh a very colloquial tone you know i don't pull rank in the organization you know people don't have

01:57:59.040 to call me sir sometimes they do even if i correct them for the fourth and the fifth time

01:58:02.540 um but you know i'm always very approachable and i think i've always carried that with me which is

01:58:07.420 really important because again humility is one of the most lacking things because you would be

01:58:10.800 utterly surprised actually you probably wouldn't be about how much how quickly a tiny amount of

01:58:16.340 political or social power can go to the head of somebody and you know in our corner of of politics

01:58:21.080 or the world or whatever you know i have seen people go absolutely mad with power over a group

01:58:26.100 chat or a telegram channel with a with a thousand followers you know it's ridiculous but um again

01:58:32.440 humility and again you know there when i showed up there was no rule book right there was no i mean

01:58:37.900 you could look at them and i think this is actually one of the things you know if we go all the way

01:58:41.060 back to talking about the innocent and the pf and the different styles um you know i in the past in

01:58:45.980 america in the you know the movement you know the capital m parentheses around it movement um in

01:58:50.520 america there were a lot of groups who really you know and again i'm not discouraging the innocent i

01:58:55.260 think they're what they're doing is unique and effective in a lot of ways um but if somebody's

01:58:59.440 only statement was oh well pf needs to do the hitler thing um and that's i'm not saying that's what any

01:59:05.680 that's when that i'm not saying that's what the australians are saying i'm just making that clear

01:59:08.400 but some people in america say that um in america you know you go all the way back to like the 70s

01:59:14.480 in the 60s and uh and the hitler thing was tried like people if the only thing that if your thing

01:59:20.480 if your critique of pf the only thing that you say that we actually need to be doing differently is

01:59:24.900 talk about hitler a lot or wave around swastikas or do salutes and and that is what is holding us back

01:59:30.640 if that was the only thing we were missing then then these other groups would have succeeded in the

01:59:34.880 80s then we would already be in an ethno state but that's obviously you know there was there was

01:59:39.260 something and it's kind of a sacred cow you know among a lot of people you're not really allowed

01:59:43.160 to critique you know all the previous you know movement groups of you know decades and decades

01:59:47.200 past you know because they're martyrs and they're warriors but i mean you need to be able to have a sober

01:59:52.240 conversation about the fact that a lot of you know we were left with a lot of really really tough

01:59:58.760 you know like any and you can say that oh well everything we have you know we should be grateful

02:00:02.360 for the people who came before us because they set up everything they built a foundation for us

02:00:06.020 when i showed up there was no foundation when i showed up there were no institutions there were

02:00:09.440 no venues there were no meeting halls you know there were there wasn't even a stock of existing

02:00:14.480 manpower that didn't need to be reformed and improved and built upon you know there there wasn't

02:00:20.040 anything you know and so the idea that i'm you know i need to follow again i'm not i'm not making

02:00:26.620 claims or being aggressive about any any other organizations you know who have a culture i'm speaking

02:00:30.880 strictly in the american context which is why i'm differentiating it from other nations because

02:00:34.440 this was so prevalent in american american political history that i think it's incredibly important that

02:00:39.900 we have a unique almost a course corrective um you know isolated very you know purifying um affiliation

02:00:49.940 and affection for our national heritage which it does come at the exclusion of others which

02:00:54.400 is necessary a lot of the time but i think that comes from a a a learning from our history a more

02:00:59.800 recent history in the in the way that you know other people in other countries you know they have

02:01:03.340 different circumstances so their interpretations are going to look different and that's totally okay

02:01:06.360 but that's that's something that i learned very early on is that we didn't have a foundation to build

02:01:10.340 upon from these people which you know maybe some people do but i certainly didn't i'm not sure what

02:01:15.840 it was like in canada oh there so the nationalist movement in canada has been so dead for so long

02:01:26.840 that you know our in the past year we've been able to do what i i don't i don't know if there's another

02:01:32.840 group that would compare and if there are they were very um they were much more in the vein of the

02:01:40.320 the mass kind of rabble movements that we were kind of talking about earlier they were not disciplined

02:01:45.140 they were not organized um and they just kind of like showed up at places to you know wave flags and

02:01:51.620 then there was no sustained presence and ultimately these all fractured but um you know they the you

02:01:58.560 know left-wing academics are referring to us as the largest you know nationalist what they they always

02:02:03.920 obviously say white nationalist because they like to use the pejorative or you know maybe well you

02:02:08.220 happen to exist in a white nation i know i'm not i don't object to the term obviously or or they

02:02:13.520 will call us uh national socialists or well they'll use the pejorative obviously nazis uh even though

02:02:18.960 we're not a national socialist organization um the that no objection obviously there we get along great

02:02:25.880 with the australians as well but it's just not the tone that we chose to take either so um and i i will

02:02:32.440 just touching on that touching on that really quick you know because i i've been asked a lot of times

02:02:36.600 you know is pf fascist is pf national socialist is pf this or that um and this also comes out of my

02:02:42.580 experience with what is largely a uniquely american context and yeah pf is going to be unique to the

02:02:48.760 american context we are going to be molded by the nation that we inhabit and a nationalist organization

02:02:53.780 should be if you're not then you know maybe you're not as national i don't know but you should be you

02:02:59.900 should be and your circumstances are going to look different and other nations are going to look at you

02:03:03.060 and they're going to see that well you know that wouldn't work in my nation well yeah it doesn't

02:03:06.780 have to we're not you right uh you know you take any of our slogans and you uh and you paste them

02:03:12.240 to a wall in france and people are going to be really confused and that's kind of the point um but

02:03:16.820 you know we get asked about those things and i've encountered a lot of people and what is the most

02:03:21.440 important part of your beliefs right is is being you know a uh if b if the most important part is the

02:03:27.940 actual convictions right because you know if and i said this in a video you know if being a fascist

02:03:33.200 is about wanting you know authoritative and and well-structured government that takes action and

02:03:40.040 is dynamistic in its ability to protect and and pursue the national interest you know with a society

02:03:46.420 that appeals to natural law with healthy families strong communities um you know astringent borders and

02:03:52.560 and you know an understanding of identity and that the state is is reflecting a natural identity which

02:03:57.680 itself itself creates the state uh if that's fascist then sure then pf is in that case um and same

02:04:04.360 thing with if it's national socialist right what's you know you add in the socialist angle you know

02:04:09.400 which obviously fascism at a socialist angle but you know you add in the economics and you know the

02:04:13.360 people should govern the economy less the economy govern the people you know you add all then is that

02:04:17.400 what it is is that what you want are you happy well that's what we are right um but if all it is and i and

02:04:23.320 again i'm not talking about any other country other than america here um because this is just my

02:04:27.560 experience i don't live in these other countries i can't talk about exactly how i feel about what

02:04:32.460 i've experienced with these people but i do think there's a lot of guys i've run into in america and

02:04:37.360 to them what's most important whether or not you're a natsock is just like having a swastika and a graphic

02:04:44.440 right is just you know whether you like roman salutes or just like certain you know if you if

02:04:49.240 either a or b if you're going to you know cut in you know marching stormtroopers into your hype

02:04:55.600 edits or not right that's what actually makes the difference and then there's kind of a lost

02:05:00.540 element of uh of do you actually have the right beliefs are you living in a certain way that exalts

02:05:06.440 the right type of virtues that you claim to be incredibly important so i i've just i've sidestepped

02:05:11.500 a lot of that uh you know the you know the label gazing um and i've focused on what i believe and if

02:05:17.560 somebody genuinely has an ideological issue with what i believe in terms of you know how we should

02:05:23.420 how we believe the family unit should work or how we believe that you know how we define identity

02:05:28.840 or the nation or how we expect men to live in contest with tyranny and evil then let's talk about

02:05:35.300 that right because too often i think especially in the modern you know digital hysteria landscape

02:05:41.600 uh a label takes on too much of of the assumption of everything else and then you're just left arguing

02:05:50.100 about words instead of ideals which are good to argue about because you need to have those opinions

02:05:54.920 but um you know the label labels do too much heavy lifting so that's why pf is is a little bit

02:05:59.580 deliberately and it is hard it is it is a little bit harder to understand right but it's new it's

02:06:04.760 revolutionary uh you're not supposed to understand it right away it's it's uh it's it's familiar but it's

02:06:09.140 it's revolutionary and we need to understand that it's not our job to be extremely approachable

02:06:15.380 intellectually it's not our job to be everything that people already know uh because we don't have

02:06:21.300 to be we don't want to be i want to make you think i want to i want to confuse people who are

02:06:27.700 approaching a new idea i want to shake people awake from everything that has put them to sleep

02:06:33.040 right that's the job of a revolutionary i'm i'm taking a stagnant pond and i'm throwing a rock in it

02:06:38.660 and i'm not i'm not complied i'm not you know i'm not demanded to adhere to every standard that

02:06:44.800 somebody tells me is necessary right it's our job as we're looking through the great section

02:06:49.280 of society everything that's gone wrong we get this wonderful opportunity in the revolution to

02:06:53.920 make a full circle around everything and say let's take a look at all the rules let's take a look at

02:06:57.940 all the rules the expectations and let's keep the ones we want and we can throw away the ones that we

02:07:02.600 don't and that behavior to labels and politics and all those things is is one of those ones that we've

02:07:07.700 decided decided to take a less than totally traditional pathway through and i hope it's been

02:07:13.440 understandable to a lot of people very well said a lot of people actually in the comments seem to be

02:07:20.640 liking that answer so yeah it's uh i would i do it i think the the really pressing point there is that

02:07:30.160 a lot of people get fixated on aesthetics and labels as opposed to the actual you know substance behind

02:07:37.120 the aesthetic and labels so um yeah i think he summarized that really well but um we're two

02:07:44.240 hours in now i'm not i have no idea what came in for super chats so maybe we can go through those yeah

02:07:50.400 yeah venture over to those because this might take a while so we can start there and i'm sure we'll

02:07:55.360 meander through some different topics as we go through these but um uh okay undercover caper says

02:08:02.960 remigration now yeah i think sorry working on it yeah i i agree what do you have you guys used that

02:08:13.040 term at all uh no i think remigration it was more of a european term um i mean we we've put out

02:08:20.960 thousands and thousands tens of thousands of pieces that say deport invaders keep america american

02:08:25.120 i mean i think deportation is the just the most american term i mean remigration it's a new word

02:08:32.000 i mean i think people kind of get it um i don't know i like i like saying just deport them because

02:08:36.720 that because you know that's just that's what's always been used in the american context yeah i do

02:08:41.200 think it's so repatriation i like as well because because it has the same root word patrios patriot

02:08:46.960 you know this is a their patrios their homeland the land of their fathers is somewhere else and

02:08:51.680 we are reconnecting them with it so repatriation is a good one but uh but we just we in in slogans we

02:08:56.640 just say to deport them yeah so the the reason why i i agreed with you initially like that like why

02:09:03.120 this new term like what the what we mean is you know mass deportations right so just say what you mean

02:09:08.960 and then this was kind of it was steve laws uh you know from the uk who kind of convinced me that

02:09:14.400 there's a logic to this which is that it's not just about deportations because there's a whole

02:09:18.560 series of policies related to immigration and reversing the flow that don't necessarily involve

02:09:25.680 you know rounding someone up and deporting them at gunpoint or something like that is a part of it

02:09:30.240 and so having this more broad term that kind of encompasses a series of policies right that you know

02:09:37.440 relate to reversing the flow of immigration made sense to me and then because it was gaining steam we've

02:09:43.600 we've kind of jumped on this term as an organization because it was gaining steam and we're like yes

02:09:48.640 let's let's push this there's something to this um now my hesitancy with it was that it wasn't

02:09:55.920 hard enough that there's there's a softer kind of element than than deportations and so right

02:10:02.080 that was my hesitancy but the left has then done us a great favor in a way by basically the way the

02:10:08.320 canadian left is now approaching remigration is that it's a synonym for ethnic cleansing which is

02:10:14.480 well kind of humorous to me because apparently mass immigration is not a form of ethnic cleansing but

02:10:19.760 mass remigration is a form of ethnic cleansing which is odd it's kind of an either both or neither

02:10:25.200 situation with that you can't really have your you can't have your slander and eat it too right

02:10:29.600 so they've done this kind of thing which i think is to our advantage where they've radicalized the term

02:10:35.280 more than maybe it was ever intended to be they've turned it into this very you know aggressive uh tone

02:10:41.360 to it and the media is replicating this so by doing this they're they're you know putting themselves

02:10:47.040 into hysterics which is i know at least they love doing that it's entertaining to me but well i'll

02:10:52.880 i'll consider working the word remigration into into something at some point i think i think it's uh

02:10:58.640 i mean obviously it started i think it started in austria it was martin it was an identitarian thing

02:11:03.280 yeah the identitarians and yeah so but the anglosphere has really lashed on to it recently

02:11:09.440 um and that i don't know that's why we jumped on so anyways i just uh thought that that was uh

02:11:14.960 anyways it's interesting to hear your thoughts on that um greasy monkey uh says hail fairman

02:11:20.960 looking forward to this one you jeremy derrick and all second sons are an inspiration let the end

02:11:24.640 sign fly forever cheers man uh undercover caper just again says uh keep up the great work

02:11:30.560 uh raging dissident that's uh the president of our organization jeremy mckenzie uh it says semper

02:11:37.280 fidelis uh god bless america with the uh oh seven salute um yeah uh man on the mountain says the way

02:11:46.560 pf responded uh aiding people in the aftermath of a natural disaster is something i would love to see

02:11:51.200 second sons engage in yeah absolutely i'll let thomas go in a second here but i'll just say this we we

02:11:58.080 often get asked by people things like when are you guys going to have like a women's detachment or when

02:12:03.760 are you going to have like a youth kind of like you know uh scouts you know wing of second sons or

02:12:10.080 when are you going to have like a natural disaster relief initiative and the answer to all these

02:12:14.960 questions is we need more men um the organization isn't large enough especially in canada where the

02:12:21.360 population density is so low there isn't a concentration of enough men in any given area

02:12:27.200 to justify like for us to be able to do these things so currently getting guys together once a

02:12:34.240 month or a couple times a month to engage in training or some kind of activism is you know enough

02:12:40.640 guys are traveling long distances to do these things and so in order to have a more sophisticated

02:12:46.000 you know network of guys that is able to do more like youth outreach or natural disaster relief or

02:12:52.080 community service any of these things we need more resources we need more men and it's not just

02:12:56.320 more men it's more men of a higher quality that are more active in the organization so it's not just

02:13:02.800 you know you can have 20 000 members in an organization but if they only show up to an event

02:13:07.440 once a year then what good is it to have 20 000 guys right so yeah yeah okay go ahead no i mean

02:13:14.560 so remember also that pf did not do disaster relief for a lot of the things that we do

02:13:20.000 for years i mean pf is eight eight years old now uh it took us years to climb through the ladder here

02:13:27.200 and um you know all these questions that people ask hey you know provided something that you all

02:13:31.200 actually want to do right um the answer needs to be you know you should be asking the question of

02:13:36.240 when it when is the second son is going to get one more man right and and i'm asking you the

02:13:41.360 question when are we going to get you right it's up to you now you answer me when are you going to

02:13:45.600 help right because again put your money where your mouth is put your put your boots on the dirt and

02:13:50.800 let's get going right because none of this happens without you right none of you think national salvation

02:13:57.120 is going to be given to you on a silver platter i admire i love i'm intoxicated by your optimism

02:14:02.880 uh but i do not share it right and we can move on um yeah absolutely exactly it's we need we need more

02:14:13.200 guys we need more guys um i would love i would love to be able to do all the things all the time

02:14:19.680 i i wish it was you know well y'all are lucky you don't get you don't get hurricanes up there um

02:14:25.040 we do a little bit on the east coast okay so we get it's not as bad as it is in say like florida or

02:14:32.800 you know the southern eastern seaboard but we do sometimes they are pretty bad nature tries to

02:14:38.800 flatten florida every few years it's it's unfortunate and uh y'all still get tornadoes up in the prairies

02:14:43.840 i'm pretty sure uh no we we do occasionally get them touchdown but it's actually in ontario typically

02:14:51.440 that they come down the ontario grassland kind of area so um yeah the prairies as far as i know that

02:14:58.400 they may but they're they're very rare but uh we can save meteorological stuff for another episode

02:15:03.920 it's more like ice storms can be very bad we'll do we'll do a weather deep dive in our next interview

02:15:09.200 uh flooding too is a big one in certain parts of canada but yeah um that's another point too is

02:15:16.080 just to be honest canada's been lucky recently aside from the fires like we've had some

02:15:21.280 bad wildfires and stuff which you know are very suspicious in terms of you know who like how

02:15:27.200 they're starting because they just don't make sense and the number of them going off at once but

02:15:31.680 um i don't know what people want us to do about wildfires like i don't own a water bomber

02:15:37.920 it's tough to get it because especially authorities they coordinate you can't just show up to a wildfire

02:15:42.320 and also they're more that you you know while the fire is going on most of the disaster we okay so

02:15:48.800 after california had those really bad wildfires we showed up we did a lot of looking um and we

02:15:53.520 investigate all these things and sometimes it's tough especially for us because we're not an ngo

02:15:58.080 we don't we don't get help from the government um you know surprisingly some people will be shocked

02:16:02.640 to hear that but i mean there's not as a private citizen just a guy showing up there's all you know

02:16:07.040 it really depends um and like after a wildfire you show up and like homes are burnt down to the

02:16:12.160 foundation there's no there's no damage there's nothing left to repair there it's not like after a flood you

02:16:18.000 know like we did in texas where you know you're clearing out drywall and you're you know moving

02:16:21.760 things up and you're in your you know you're scraping out mud but there's no house left there's no building

02:16:25.680 it's it's concrete left on the foundation um and in other places it's it's so um the work that we can

02:16:32.320 do is actually the work that's like right as soon as an area reopens right the clearing roads and the

02:16:37.680 chopping up of trees because the actual like rebuilding of a home is done by insurance or that homeowner

02:16:43.520 and a lot of times they're you know they're not going to take somebody who just shows up on the

02:16:46.640 street to you know fix the frame on their house and also i'm not likely to have a framer in every

02:16:51.200 little local detachment um and at some point they might want to be paid uh so you know that level of

02:16:57.040 you know charitable you know it's it's so there is a razor-thin window uh right as soon as it's safe

02:17:02.560 to enter because you don't want to get your guys stuck um but before all of the easiest work and i'm not

02:17:07.760 the easiest it's just the most accessible the first work that is done um the work that is most manpower

02:17:12.640 intensive and least skill intensive and also doesn't require insurance or long projects or

02:17:17.760 bringing in a lot of building materials which we don't have we're not just going to show up with

02:17:21.120 pallets of wood and and try to tack it onto things maybe we will someday but anyways it's it requires

02:17:27.040 not only a lot of men but a lot of logistics and the ability to muster it like that right um because you

02:17:33.920 have a very slim window usually you have one ideal weekend and everything after that might define it so

02:17:39.120 it is tough and again people should join if they want to help out with this and also i mean

02:17:42.800 they actually like yeah there's just not you know sometimes i've talked to people in certain parts of

02:17:47.040 pf and they're like oh well you know i really wish we could do more disaster relief and i'm like dude

02:17:52.080 there's nothing happening in your state you're good you know like there's there's no tornadoes

02:17:55.520 there's no hurricanes you know you you live in a state that does not have natural disasters really

02:17:59.520 so just you know be happy that you're not doing it it's like i wish we could do more of this

02:18:02.880 it's like we kind of have to wait for a disaster you know oh man i wish i wish there was more

02:18:07.920 traumatic destruction yeah don't worry there's plenty of destruction it's just not of the it's

02:18:14.160 of the man-made variety and it's happening to your people everywhere so anyways but uh you know that's

02:18:18.800 what we do everything else for moving on all right uh zanal says uh i have reconsidered my positions

02:18:24.480 i am no longer a racist i am a xenophobic jingoist happy non-denominational winter festivus

02:18:30.320 a happy non-denominational winter festivus to you too um hail the united youth says uh white youth

02:18:38.480 and revolt united youth all right cheers thanks for that um joseph and a whole bunch of numbers says

02:18:47.120 quotes i don't want to join a youth club slash active club or pf and get active translation hail

02:18:53.040 netanyahu in the state of israel i mean that's how i read it every single time yeah okay um i would

02:19:00.160 agree i i find there's something particularly i i don't get it um so when i hear these objections

02:19:08.560 to joining anything i don't care what it is if it's a small political party or some kind of

02:19:15.200 community outreach thing anything that's explicitly you know nationalistic or pro-white in its you know

02:19:20.400 expression you hear this objection a lot they'll say something along the lines of like well i would but

02:19:25.280 i can't risk x and to me that's such a weird thing because that's coming from somebody who

02:19:31.120 understands that they are in an existential fight for the they're coming after your x thing whether

02:19:37.840 you like it or not yeah and on a long enough timeline even if it doesn't affect you it's sure

02:19:43.120 to affect your children or their children like it's on you you understand that you're in an existential

02:19:48.960 fight uh for your survival as a civilization and a race and your objection is but i can't risk x and

02:19:57.120 so like that that argument just falls flat to me every time i don't really get it i can see special

02:20:03.200 circumstances where like if you have like a very influential position it's like maybe it's just it's

02:20:07.840 not you joining up to do push-ups or you know go on marches is maybe not as valuable as it is for you to

02:20:15.200 keep your job at a fortune 500 company and try to like you know manipulate it as best you can from

02:20:20.240 within maybe there's that argument but usually that's not the case it's it's guys who have you

02:20:25.200 know mid-level management jobs or you know blue collar jobs and they're they're looking for an

02:20:30.080 excuse not not to be involved so and one thing you know i see this on the other hand is when somebody's

02:20:36.880 already in an organization maybe they're going to leave and you know you okay i'm going to quiz you

02:20:40.960 i'm going to do an exit interview and we're going to find out what problems you had oh and it's

02:20:44.080 usually piddling little things that i have an interpersonal disagreement with this guy i don't

02:20:47.840 like him you know oh well the meetings were too long and oh well there was this issue a little

02:20:52.880 logistics so okay so you understand we're in a life or death fight you understand that they're

02:20:56.720 trying to destroy everything you love um but you're not going to show up on the great day of you know

02:21:02.160 battle and reclamation because the meetings were long you're not going to show up because uh because

02:21:07.120 somebody uh there was a mishap with the carpooling right you're not going to show up because of

02:21:12.480 of something like that like that that is why you lost faith that is why you decided to embrace

02:21:17.360 your own genocide gotcha amazing fantastic you know anyways moving on but it's all the time because

02:21:24.960 so for us and i'm sure this is you know this is true for a lot of the smaller organizations whenever

02:21:30.240 they start out which is you use you know physical exercise you know hikes combat sports as a mechanism to

02:21:38.240 organize because it's just a practical useful simple you know everybody should be engaging in

02:21:44.320 some form of physical exercise to some degree anyway so you know why not do it together there's all

02:21:49.440 kinds of reasons why you would use it um and some guys object to it and they're not even necessarily

02:21:54.480 you know not in shape or anything like that it's just they'd rather exercise on their own like

02:21:58.480 well i'd rather do this and it's like okay i would rather we again i would rather we're able to do

02:22:03.360 all the things all the time too i wish we could have all these different kind of things that would

02:22:08.000 appeal to a wider variety you know a wider segment of the population but we don't have the resources to

02:22:13.280 do that so if you want if you want to do i don't know um you know second son's business organization

02:22:21.600 you know uh you know outreach i don't know something like whatever it doesn't really matter what it is

02:22:26.720 until we have enough guys to justify having that then we can't so the only thing that we can do is

02:22:33.040 is organized in some capacity that you know is affordable and you know accessible to a large

02:22:38.480 segment of the mail so and you're you're getting there right you know i i like i was just explaining

02:22:44.400 to somebody on the phone earlier today that you know pf is is like the multi-tool of the of the scene

02:22:48.880 you know um anything you look around and you say oh well i wish somebody was doing that and you know

02:22:54.080 you can say this with other organizations or other countries you know anything you can look at and you

02:22:58.240 say oh we should be doing that i we're doing right community building i've done family events

02:23:02.800 done business you know uh you know we're done fitness done you know media production we're doing

02:23:08.080 it business networking we're doing it you know you want big demonstrations we're doing it you want us

02:23:12.240 to invest in nationalist venues and spaces we're doing it right you know we're just knocking things 0.89

02:23:17.280 off of the list of excuses and you're really running short now so that's you know organizing i've said

02:23:23.600 it before organizing exists to remove the excuses for inaction and i think having you know because pf is not

02:23:30.880 it's not a strictly tactical entity you know we are a nation within a nation so we are going to

02:23:35.280 have a cross section i'm going to use every tactic that i can that benefits our cause that is smart and

02:23:40.160 useful so that's going to include all of these things our group can include all of these interests

02:23:44.480 and all these tactics just like our nation can include business owners and all these other people

02:23:48.320 but anyways i'm sure we have a few more chats to get into yeah and then the the other element of that

02:23:54.000 too that i was gonna bring up is oh no i've just lost it oh it'll come back to me or or it wasn't

02:24:00.720 that important it happens um yeah there's a few more here um so uh maple sven over on entropy says

02:24:11.680 has thomas heard of the american freedom party thoughts on them keep up the great word gentlemen

02:24:16.080 hail white canada hail white america hail victory yeah yeah obviously i've heard of them i went to their

02:24:22.080 conference last this year this year last year winter winter the last winter i went to their

02:24:28.160 conference yeah i've definitely heard of them and uh yeah good people right on yeah i i'm not i have

02:24:35.280 heard of them i'm not super familiar of them but uh with them i should say but uh yeah uh adam says

02:24:41.200 things says uh what i like most about you thomas is you are timeless like you would have been the same

02:24:46.800 man in any century i've actually i i said something eerily similar the other day i think

02:24:52.800 there there is a timeless quality that uh that men especially nationalists should try to embody that

02:24:57.920 you wouldn't be incredibly out of place depending on wherever they dropped you you know as long as

02:25:03.200 english is spoken you know as long as i can be an american i think we'll be fine but yeah there should

02:25:07.040 there should be an element of timelessness to that yes because i'm more worried about historical

02:25:13.600 legacy i'm more worried about what history will say about me than i am what today says about me

02:25:18.240 if that makes any sense it makes sense to me um well i hope so because what they say about me

02:25:26.080 everything we understand here is what everybody understands you know everybody actually agrees

02:25:29.920 with us out there in the great wide open yeah well i mean i hope i hope history

02:25:35.920 looks more fondly on me than current events do oh certainly yeah me too

02:25:40.880 uh maple sven again says when mr russo becomes president of the united states would he consider

02:25:47.280 renaming every martin luther king boulevard perhaps to george lincoln rockwell boulevard

02:25:52.640 there's a little tongue-in-cheek there we'll have a we'll have a lottery system and people will get to

02:25:58.400 that we'll see i mean we could probably rename a few i don't know i feel like we'll want to mix it up a

02:26:02.560 little bit um we just turn every one of them into a into you know a bunch of water fountains you know i

02:26:08.720 don't know we'll figure it out yeah um nick lovin says for the hold on i have an idea we'll take

02:26:16.480 every street sign that says martin luther king boulevard we'll take them all we'll put them in

02:26:19.680 a massive pit we'll melt them down and then we'll build a new statue of robert e lee out of it how

02:26:23.760 about that there you go that's a good idea it'll be big there's a lot of them that's one thing too that

02:26:30.800 i i this is you just made me think of it because of the robert e lee thing i feel like that one this is

02:26:37.600 me from the peanut gallery not being an american nationalist so i think one thing that american

02:26:42.800 nationalists have failed to really capitalize on is that image of the robert e lee face when it's

02:26:49.920 smoldering in you know that iconic image i don't know that that image should be used everywhere that

02:26:56.560 that is that is so the way i would put this is that's like that's like a gi fox mask like just

02:27:02.080 waiting to be used that that robert e lee fiery yeah so when you originally made this post somebody

02:27:08.960 sent it to me one of my one of my close compatriots sent it to me and uh said like oh we could have a

02:27:14.240 like a mask out of this and and i i talked to him about it and the idea was okay so how are we going to

02:27:19.360 do that are we going to print it on like a fabric mask and i'll look weird can we can we make it no we

02:27:24.880 can't really make it um you know and like a guy fox mask the cool thing about those is you can just

02:27:30.320 buy them i mean i get it i totally get it um i'm not sure on the exact methods of implementation but

02:27:36.720 i don't know everything immediately so you know maybe we'll talk we'll workshop it back in the

02:27:40.320 green room or something but i'm just saying if there's a way like that oh yeah they handed you

02:27:46.960 guys a uniquely powerful image right there with that they're just just put it you know in an attempt to

02:27:52.560 humiliate americans by you know releasing that image of hey look at us melting down robert e lee

02:27:59.040 here's his cut off head like they just handed you this very powerful symbol that like it's a memetic

02:28:04.800 right everybody knows exactly what that is now so i don't know how i don't know how you use it maybe

02:28:10.000 lost a little bit of the virality by now but yeah yeah i get the i get the premise i get the premise

02:28:14.640 all right um where else was i here um nick lovin says for the vogue or not at all with the uh oh

02:28:24.320 slash thank you both for all you do godspeed thank you very much for the support man and um

02:28:29.280 derrick grant says who would win in a fight george washington or sir john a mcdonald

02:28:33.760 uh you know i'm a canadian and i'm just gonna say george washington because wasn't he like six foot

02:28:38.400 four he was a soldier of multiple wars i would like a prime mcdonald he was extremely fit yeah

02:28:44.640 well my money is 100 johnny mcdonald was a a diplomat and a an architect of of uh state craft

02:28:53.920 not not a warrior so my money's on washington obviously washington you know his dentures

02:28:58.480 were very powerful he could probably own with that thing yeah so uh yeah i don't have any uh

02:29:05.600 problems thank you maple spence's johnny was too drunk most of the time he did like his wine that's

02:29:10.240 true there you go um and uh i think that one more came in here on uh uh rumble uh undercover caper

02:29:20.080 you've been very supportive thank you very much says what about a drone crew help uh to appeal to

02:29:24.800 those techie types that may be in the fence of joining drone show for the kiddos i don't know if you 1.00

02:29:29.920 mean like a light display yeah in china um drone drone footage is very powerful we do use a lot of

02:29:37.840 drone footage yeah we have we have drone pilots in the organization uh i don't know how i'm sure the

02:29:43.280 drones that just have the lights on they're all coordinated with the leds i'm sure they're not as

02:29:46.640 expensive as like the camera drones but uh i don't know i assume once you get to that big of a cloud of

02:29:52.320 them you probably need some kind of like faa permit or something yeah well this is this is a problem we've

02:29:58.320 run into as well with like we have used drones but also it it seems like everywhere we go drone usage

02:30:05.680 is prohibited or we're very close to an area where drone usage is prohibited so for example the last

02:30:11.920 thing we did was in niagara falls which is right at the border and it's yeah you can't fly they probably

02:30:16.400 don't like it same thing with dc and uh in new york unsurprisingly has really strict era air traffic rules

02:30:22.640 yeah um but that being said i know uh uh blood tribe recently did a demo in little rock and they

02:30:31.040 use the drone in a way that i don't think i've seen anybody use one before and it was very interesting

02:30:36.000 it was almost like it was a like a news camera or not a news camera a news copter or a police copter

02:30:44.240 like fault you know like when they do like the pursuit and they just follow you know from a distance

02:30:48.560 and kind of watch the whole time so it was it was really i i haven't seen it it's always like zoom

02:30:54.320 in shots or like you know flying around and stuff like that whereas this was like a more just like

02:30:58.720 steady like a straight kind of third person follow had a had a really neat effect and i could see that

02:31:04.560 being you know with with 200 or something guys it's kind of just you know i don't i don't know how to

02:31:10.400 explain it but like this news camera footage of of the march would have i'll have to check in on

02:31:15.440 it and see what yeah it was i just thought it was i've never seen anybody do it like that so

02:31:23.920 all right i think that was it for

02:31:28.800 i think that was it for super chats there we go i i will say sorry i do know that i missed

02:31:34.160 these and they don't remain up but thank you to undercover caper and tickle grass who gifted

02:31:40.800 subscriptions those are uh always uh very much appreciated on rumble so uh they they disappeared

02:31:48.160 but i know you guys sent them so thank you very much um but yeah that was that was it for the

02:31:53.920 the super chats anyways if anybody has questions that they want to throw up in the rumble i'm just

02:31:59.120 going to go off the rumble chat because nobody's really on entropy anymore but uh i'll look for good

02:32:04.080 ones um but yeah i mean yeah we did yeah if we want to do just quick q a and then we could maybe

02:32:11.840 wrap up or yeah absolutely we're two and a half hours in now so i don't really know i mean i could

02:32:16.160 talk to you you know for hours here but uh eventually it becomes so long that people people just oh yeah

02:32:23.120 i gotta get back to the doing yeah yeah um

02:32:29.520 let's see what do we have here what's patriot front's opinion on black metal personally i don't

02:32:33.760 listen to it yeah the see you you open up the floor and then the floodgates of silliness just come

02:32:39.360 in and then you know it's fun to engage in a little bit rttl plus pf a winning formula for america 0.86

02:32:44.560 i like those guys they're doing a good thing uh thoughts on american negroes um they're black 0.98

02:32:50.880 uh what what else is there to say you know that that comment i don't know if that's a serious

02:32:57.120 commenter or not but they sent in a a very strange super chat about ethiopian communism or something so

02:33:03.680 i don't i don't know if that's also not a not an adherent personally of ethiopian communism let's see

02:33:08.320 does patriot believe there's a civic principle higher than the uh higher than the nation religion family

02:33:13.440 economy um so religion if you're of a religious persuasion then religion usually trumps everything 1.00

02:33:21.120 right uh you know if you're a christian then you believe that god created the universe and is

02:33:26.160 omnipotent and all-knowing and that that kind of puts him above everything um i believe there is a

02:33:31.200 very reasonable and proper interpretation of christianity that does not cause you to throw away

02:33:34.800 your nation um and i don't think that's you know that it's the correct interpretation to do so as some

02:33:40.080 crazy people nowadays do uh family i believe family again you serve your family which serves

02:33:46.240 the nation what's good for the geese is good for the gander or whatever they say right so you know

02:33:49.680 your family is a part of the nation um but if need be i mean many times throughout american history

02:33:53.360 people would sacrifice i mean you know the minute man statue at lexington right he is leaving his plow

02:34:00.000 behind and hanging up his jacket you know and picking up the musket to go fight right he's leaving

02:34:04.560 his family behind uh he's leaving his homestead behind and his profession and his career like the

02:34:08.960 economy behind to fight for the nation so we need to understand that without without collective

02:34:13.840 liberty we cannot have individual liberty um and again besides that it just comes down to aligning

02:34:20.640 all the interests you know again if you put the economy against the interests of the nation then

02:34:25.040 it's wrong every time but if you are being prosperous and enterprising that helps the nation then it's

02:34:29.600 aligned so you know you're actually serving more you know more than just one uh what else do we got

02:34:34.080 is am i classical music fan sometimes i listen to a lot of americana uh bluegrass i listen to a lot

02:34:39.440 of johnny cash um good man what do you think uh charging a woman for abortion i think abortion should

02:34:47.840 be uh should be criminal um i you could say it's a lot better to charge the doctor um because i think

02:34:54.640 that would actually have a better effect perhaps on stopping it which is the goal of the law

02:34:59.200 um but i do i do not agree with abortion obviously just a note here ivy ryan or ivrion says afa is

02:35:08.320 based i'm pretty sure they mean as a true focus probably not anti-fascist or anti-fascist you should

02:35:14.320 probably say as a true instead of afa because you i i saw that i was about to ban you and i was like no

02:35:20.160 i think he's talking yeah pf has a lot of uh people who are you know traditional uh you know pre-christian

02:35:25.680 european uh religions heathens pagans depending on the preference um and yeah that's accepted that's

02:35:30.800 good you know i find that a lot of those guys uh you know follow their religious principles in a way

02:35:36.320 that is uh is simpatico with our nationalist principles so yeah that's good uh you know pf's

02:35:42.640 religious stance is that you know broadly there's christians there's pagans and there's non-religious

02:35:47.760 people in the organization um that's generally the three subsets that you can fall into um but you have

02:35:53.440 to be following our personal morals and i you know we have people of any of those persuasions who are

02:35:58.960 perfectly fine in following the you know the morals and the principles that we request um let me see

02:36:05.040 any of the comments comments comments like that person or a dog person i'm a dog person uh golden

02:36:10.720 retrievers that's an easy one yeah did you get another one you get something uh i did i think i missed

02:36:18.000 one actually uh brian seven three one six just said uh alex and thomas you guys are legends hail

02:36:22.240 second sons hail patriot front thanks brian you're uh always supportive and i appreciate it a lot

02:36:28.080 very good i think that's all of them i think we're caught up yeah um

02:36:34.720 do you have a wonder somebody wonders if we battled against each other in our past lives

02:36:39.600 maybe in one of my incarnations i was there with uh colonel montgomery storming the walls of the

02:36:45.200 fortress of quebec freezing my toes off who knows well i mean if i on that side uh if it was it would

02:36:55.680 have been on my french side actually that's an interesting question i i meant to ask you this okay

02:37:01.120 your name obviously sounds i mean it is a french name it is a friend it is a french surname you are

02:37:07.040 correct i don't know if anybody's ever asked you this if you've ever talked about it but

02:37:10.720 there was because i was doing this history series and we talk about the expulsion of the acadians

02:37:15.280 from nova scotia which is it's cajun yes i have i have a cajun uh i have a cajun uh strand so um

02:37:22.480 i uh my family has but on both sides it is it is thorough i have a thoroughly american pedigree you will

02:37:30.240 not be surprised to hear um you know i have ancestors on my mother's side who uh were new england

02:37:36.160 puritans from the 1600 uh 1600s and on my father's side it goes back you know to the 1700s um and

02:37:43.920 there's scotch irish and i'm pretty sure i don't i don't know every single thing but you know scotch

02:37:48.320 irish southerners came down through um and they you know on the way to texas i think that at some

02:37:53.520 point they picked up uh they picked up a cajun in louisiana and uh and that's where i get that and

02:37:58.640 of course you know the cajuns were expelled from they were the acadians uh and then they were well 1.00

02:38:03.440 there's arcadians and then the acadians and then the cajuns um and i've actually read uh i'm not

02:38:09.040 sure if you've read longfellow's poem evangeline about all that i recently picked it up when i was

02:38:13.440 at a museum down in lafayette louisiana um but the story is beautiful story a great american literature

02:38:18.240 you should definitely read it if you haven't um but yes that is a part and i've you know so i've got i've

02:38:22.080 got all the big uh the big components with a with a french last name but otherwise you know i've got

02:38:26.160 i've got ancestors who fought you know um in you know the in the american civil war uh in the

02:38:31.760 revolutionary war um i have ancestors who fought in the texas revolutionary war um you know and i'm

02:38:37.840 i'm very proud of my uh of my uh my cajun heritage and i and i love jambalaya which is a little known

02:38:43.360 fact about me but i'm a big fan i i mean you say all this all i take away from that is you're secretly

02:38:50.320 canadian so it's fine not really i mean i'm sure they got kicked out of canada yeah um no that's

02:39:00.000 just uh again i've never heard uh you i don't know if you have been asked that question before but i i

02:39:06.000 had never heard you uh speak on that i mean i don't think of myself primarily as oh you know i'm i'm from

02:39:10.800 the french quarter of new orleans or whatever that is that is a strand that is one of the one of the

02:39:15.600 threads in the tapestry that makes up you know my uh you know um there was a one question there uh

02:39:23.280 might be this pf no relation to john jock yeah this pf subscribe to manifest destiny i think you've

02:39:29.520 already kind of answered this question tonight because he's described in manifest destiny what

02:39:33.120 kind of question is that whoever asked that should be ashamed of himself but you don't believe in annexing

02:39:38.800 canada well canada was not included in that it's different well i i think well it was at one point

02:39:47.040 but that's fair yeah well you know providence intervened and corrected the course of manifest

02:39:51.680 destiny it was it needed to stay stay west um i think a good way to say america must breathe outward

02:40:00.160 you know it's good for nations to breathe outward this is what so one thing i actually i thought it was

02:40:05.040 funny you know trump comes into power obviously and i'm not a huge fan obviously but um one thing

02:40:11.200 that i actually liked about him even though canada was kind of the the the subject of it was this kind

02:40:16.480 of resurgence of like an american chauvinism of uh you know we're gonna yeah we're gonna canada we're

02:40:22.160 gonna rename the gulf of mexico the gulf of america and there was this kind of like behind

02:40:26.720 yeah i know i i actually despite the fact that i didn't like that some of it was being directed at my

02:40:32.160 country i kind of appreciated because i think there's a value to it which is that you know

02:40:36.320 nations in order to uh grow and be processed they need to kind of breathe out they need to come america 0.78

02:40:42.640 it is extremely american to chafe against our borders yeah it is um now i do think trump i knew he wasn't

02:40:50.400 serious from the moment he said that canada is going to be the 51st state right now not that i've thought

02:40:57.040 about it but you obviously wouldn't annex canada as a single state you would admit one or two

02:41:01.760 sympathetic states you'd turn the rest into territories put them under military governors

02:41:05.200 and have a gradual process of cultural acclimatization which could last upward to 60

02:41:09.680 years which includes you know immigration all those things again i haven't thought about it

02:41:13.280 right but ultimately canada would be added as like 13 new states right but him saying 51st state

02:41:20.720 it's just ridiculous it means that he's not serious um i don't know about green we we could take

02:41:25.120 greenland if we really wanted to i don't know if i want it but that was the one that i actually

02:41:29.680 thought he might be serious it makes geopolitical sense um but uh i don't think it's uh it's uh

02:41:36.240 if denmark doesn't want to divest themselves of it then uh but now we're talking geopolitics

02:41:40.320 but the the the argument for the reason why it makes sense and this is kind of lesser talked about

02:41:46.240 it's maybe a bit more discussed in canada just because of our proximity to it but

02:41:50.240 you know the the and not to go down a whole global warming thing but the the arctic passages

02:41:55.840 over the arctic yeah there is you know new uh courses that can be traversed you know through

02:42:02.400 the canadian arctic and this is why there's so much kind of it's it's kind of subtle but there is

02:42:09.360 quite a bit of discussion in canada russia and amongst americans about you know the ramifications

02:42:16.320 of the opening up of a northwest passage and even more um you know access to minerals um

02:42:23.280 um that previously was not you know feasible and so this is why when trump was talking about that i

02:42:29.920 was like this actually makes sense because china's poking around in there russia's poking around in

02:42:34.880 there and the the truth is that in our current uh you know status canada simply does not have the

02:42:42.000 ability to um govern that territory we're just it's not a folk it could we could but we right now we don't

02:42:49.440 and so if i was trump if i was the american government and i'm looking at the the geopolitics

02:42:54.160 of russia and china poking around in the canadian arctic i would want to have a larger presence

02:42:58.000 there and you know potentially be pushing canada to like hey you need to sort your your you know

02:43:03.120 business out here in this this geopolitical region that's becoming increasingly more of value and

02:43:09.120 desirable among you know potential enemies of america so that actually did make sense to me not

02:43:14.720 the annexation part but the i will be shocked if it happens i will be actually dumbfounded if trump

02:43:21.600 is able to somehow annex greenland um but i mean it make it makes sense uh could it if it you know

02:43:28.080 probably could have been gone about in a more tactical way or more uh tactful i should say but uh

02:43:32.720 trump intact do not belong in the same sentence it cut it just made sense to me that's like i understand

02:43:38.160 the leverage of it being like you need to spend more on your military defense on your you know arctic

02:43:43.520 security on on things like that so if trump was trying to use this as a way of leveraging you know

02:43:49.280 the canadian government into it frankly pulling more of its weight because we don't spend enough

02:43:53.040 on defense and america has been footing the bill for you know nato for so long so like i'm not

02:43:58.400 disagreeing with the arguments behind it it's just again the tact i think i think trump made a huge

02:44:04.640 miscalculation there and ultimately this actually ended up helping the left in canada um it's kind of like

02:44:09.840 a weird thing but when trump appealed to this annexation thing what he did was he handed this

02:44:14.640 kind of inbuilt natural aversion to american encroachment in canadian people saying that's

02:44:19.200 why uh the polyvra is that what his name is they like lost or whatever i don't i don't know how much

02:44:25.200 that is but that's what they were saying so it must be true the media said it it certainly didn't help

02:44:30.000 him but i don't know if it was the reason he lost but regardless yeah like he he basically handed

02:44:35.600 patriotic and nationalistic sentiment to to the left and they got to use this kind of bastardized

02:44:41.600 version of this like inbuilt anti-american sentiment that exists among canadians even if they don't

02:44:46.400 understand really fundamentally why they have it he's kind of handed that to the the liberals in the

02:44:51.760 last election so i don't know if that was you know the correct way of going about it but um it has

02:44:58.960 had a another effect where a lot of conservatives are now annexationist so there's the anyway so

02:45:06.960 canada's in a very i i like the situation that we're in because it's chaotic and chaos is actually

02:45:13.520 good for people like us to you know it's it's fertile soil for us to you know grow our movement in um

02:45:21.520 not that i'm a fan of chaos but when the right is fractured between um you know zionist first

02:45:28.000 conservatives and you know separatists and american annexationists and things like that there it's

02:45:33.280 it's a ripe environment for somebody with a vision and organizational capacity to actually start

02:45:40.000 advancing uh their movement so yeah anyways it's time for order at some point sorry it's time for

02:45:46.960 order at some point exactly yeah but you know out of chaos comes order so this is where like the

02:45:52.560 instead of this facade that we've had of order for the past you know decades um it's time for a real

02:45:59.440 order to to rise out of that chaos i'm sorry i'm distracted i'm just looking over the chat and goodness

02:46:05.840 gracious there's yeah there's some funny guys in there there's some real jokers in there i i don't

02:46:13.920 know i can see now why i wasn't looking at it when i was making all my good points

02:46:16.800 honestly i i was managing it uh during the conversation and it was pretty tame um okay

02:46:23.760 okay i'm surprised it's i think it's ever since we've gone on to the more uh uh the less formal

02:46:29.760 part of the conversation people have decided that uh they're going to let loose a little bit of

02:46:33.760 course of course um yeah they're having fun um one more we got one more one more one more from zan

02:46:40.880 else's outside of him being back thoughts on royce white for senator from mississippi running on a

02:46:46.240 party of uh a platform of party lines being gone and that all that exists is patriots and nationalists

02:46:51.760 and globalists i'm not familiar with this person at all so me either i'll i'll look into it what was

02:46:57.760 his name was uh uh royce white well that's uh uh a little that name is an interesting little sign

02:47:06.560 from the universe but who knows we'll look into it yeah all right but uh other than that uh yeah

02:47:16.480 you guys you guys have well you were disciplined for two hours so i'll give you credit where it is

02:47:22.720 you can only you can only ask so much before you know things

02:47:28.560 things uh start to go in a direction where people want to blow off steam so

02:47:32.560 of course um but yeah that was uh i think that was a great talk it's been a while obviously and

02:47:40.880 yeah we'll have to do it sooner than two years two years for the next one

02:47:44.640 but uh yeah i think it's been posted in the chat already if you're interested go to the website

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02:48:39.680 which is on the join page thank you very much for having me yeah thanks a lot comes and yeah we'll

02:48:45.120 talk again hopefully soon yes of course all right um all right thanks everybody for tuning in

02:48:55.520 thank you all for the support tonight it was much appreciated and uh we'll be back uh probably

02:49:01.520 i'll probably be back on saturday but i'm not sure i gotta do some stuff for the new uh segment of the

02:49:07.200 history stream so yeah well i got some work to do anyways good night everybody enjoy oh happy new year

02:49:14.640 and uh i didn't even say new year merry christmas or good yule thomas of course of course and happy new

02:49:20.240 new year to all to everybody else i hope it's a very productive one for everybody

The Ferryman's Toll - December 31, 2025

The Daily Toll with Thomas Rousseau

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