The Glenn Beck Program - 1⧸15⧸18 - 'Don't Let Hate Win' (Bishop Omar Jahwar joins Glenn)

00:00:00.000 We will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white

00:00:26.640 men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics will be able to join hands and sing in the

00:00:33.640 words of the old Negro spiritual, free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty we are

00:00:40.640 free at last.

00:00:42.640 Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of

00:00:50.640 racial justice.

00:00:51.640 Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid

00:00:59.640 rock of brotherhood.

00:01:02.640 Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

00:01:10.640 And I've seen the promised land.

00:01:15.640 I may not get there with you, but I want you to know the night that we as a people will

00:01:23.640 get to the promised land.

00:01:25.640 Dr. Martin Luther King has been shot and wounded, possibly critically wounded in Memphis, Tennessee

00:01:34.640 this evening.

00:01:35.640 Dr. Martin Luther King, the apostle of non-violence in the civil rights movement, has been shot

00:01:40.640 to death in Memphis, Tennessee.

00:01:42.640 They shoot an all-points bulletin for a well-dressed young white man seen running from the sea.

00:01:47.640 For centuries, man's freedom has been crushed, contained, or at best discouraged, and sometimes

00:01:59.640 in subtle ways.

00:02:01.640 In the days of Solomon, he decried that man could learn too much, that one shouldn't dig

00:02:07.640 too deeply nor read too often, saying that too much reading led to the weariness of the flesh.

00:02:14.640 That the search for knowledge is where Adam and Eve went wrong, thus proving that learning

00:02:20.640 leads to man's downfall or his sin.

00:02:24.640 St. Paul centuries later said basically the same thing.

00:02:29.640 In 1500, Francis Bacon wrote to the king trying to convince him that man could never learn too much,

00:02:36.640 that knowledge could not somehow also contain the serpent.

00:02:41.640 Yet free thought continued to be squashed.

00:02:45.640 Immanuel Kant, the man who first described the Milky Way as a collection of suns in the fashion

00:02:51.640 that we now know it, wrote in 1760,

00:02:54.640 There are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things

00:03:00.640 that I do not believe.

00:03:04.640 The courage to speak one's mind.

00:03:07.640 In 1760, our most precious freedom, the freedom of thought, had not yet been born.

00:03:16.640 Yet, just a few years later, on the other side of the globe, sat a man alone in a hotel room,

00:03:23.640 his wife dying in bed hundreds of miles away from him.

00:03:27.640 As he scratched words on paper,

00:03:30.640 We find these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,

00:03:36.640 with certain unalienable rights given to them by their creator,

00:03:41.640 among them life, liberty, and property.

00:03:45.640 It was later changed to the pursuit of happiness to make sure the slave trade would finally come to an end.

00:03:55.640 I'm not sure if we really understand the impact of those words.

00:03:59.640 Man has never been as free to think as man is now.

00:04:04.640 The Chinese dissidents didn't make a Statue of Liberty in Tiananmen Square out of happenstance.

00:04:10.640 Americans changed the world.

00:04:13.640 Our freedom of thought allowed men to discover electricity,

00:04:17.640 the light bulb, the car, the phone, the motion picture, the radio, the television, the computer,

00:04:22.640 to put a man on the moon.

00:04:24.640 Which of these men will be first to orbit the Earth? I cannot tell you.

00:04:28.640 And a spacecraft on Mars.

00:04:30.640 Touchdown confirmed. We're safe on Mars.

00:04:33.640 It was in the American century that the theory of relativity was conceived,

00:04:38.640 leading Einstein to say,

00:04:40.640 The thing that strikes me about America is the joyous, positive attitude to life.

00:04:46.640 The smile on the faces of the people is one of the greatest assets of the American.

00:04:51.640 He's friendly, self-confident, optimistic, and without envy.

00:04:56.640 The American lives more for his goals, for the future.

00:05:01.640 Life for him is always becoming, never being.

00:05:08.640 His emphasis is laid on the we and never the I.

00:05:14.640 So today, as we are free to celebrate, relax, think, read, say anything,

00:05:20.640 ask yourself this.

00:05:23.640 Are we still more about the goals for the future?

00:05:27.640 Is life for us always about becoming and never being?

00:05:32.640 And are we still part of the we and not the I?

00:05:37.640 You know, when Jefferson first wrote those words,

00:05:41.640 They were words of treason and certain execution.

00:05:46.640 But today they are free to echo throughout the land as words of the American spirit and our hope.

00:05:53.640 That we do hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:05:57.640 That all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

00:06:04.640 And among them, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:06:09.640 And in support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence,

00:06:17.640 we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

00:06:24.640 Our founders changed the world with those few words.

00:06:30.640 And over 200 years later, a black preacher from the south, Dr. Martin Luther King,

00:06:37.640 helped make sure that the promise of liberty was real for all Americans.

00:06:44.640 Free at last.

00:06:46.640 Free at last.

00:06:47.640 Free at last.

00:06:48.640 Free at last.

00:06:49.640 Thank God Almighty.

00:06:51.640 Thank God Almighty.

00:06:53.640 We are free at last.

00:06:56.640 We are free at last.

00:07:07.640 It's Monday, January 15th.

00:07:11.640 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:07:14.640 Welcome to the program.

00:07:15.640 There's a lot to cover today.

00:07:20.640 But I want to focus a little bit on that quote that Einstein said about Americans.

00:07:31.640 He said, I have to redeem my promise to say something about my impressions of this country.

00:07:37.640 And it's not altogether easy for me, for it's not easy to take up the attitude of an impartial observer

00:07:43.640 when one is received with such kindness and undeserved respect as I have been given in America.

00:07:51.640 First, let me say something on its head.

00:07:54.640 The cult of individual personalities is always, in my view, unjustified.

00:08:00.640 To be sure, nature distributes her gifts variously among her children.

00:08:05.640 Listen to that.

00:08:06.640 This is so far out of our thinking now.

00:08:12.640 It is, in my view, unjustified.

00:08:14.640 To be sure, nature distributes her gifts variously among her children.

00:08:21.640 But there are plenty of well-endowed ones, too, thank God.

00:08:25.640 And I'm firmly convinced that most of them live quiet, unregarded lives.

00:08:34.640 Is that even a goal of ours now?

00:08:38.640 Is that even okay to live a quiet, unregarded life?

00:08:44.640 It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few of them for boundless admiration,

00:08:52.640 attributing superhuman powers of mind and character to them.

00:08:56.640 This has been my fate, and the contrast between the popular estimate of my powers and achievement

00:09:03.640 and the reality is simply grotesque.

00:09:06.640 It would be unbearable, but for one great consoling thought,

00:09:15.640 it is a welcome symptom in the age which is commonly denounced as materialistic,

00:09:20.640 that it makes heroes of men whose ambitions lie wholly in the intellectual and moral sphere.

00:09:27.640 This proves that knowledge and justice are ranked above wealth and power.

00:09:34.640 Do we still hold people at high esteem whose ambitions are wholly in the intellectual or moral sphere?

00:09:46.640 Can you name those people?

00:09:50.640 My experience teaches me that this idealistic outlook, quoting Albert Einstein,

00:10:02.640 is particularly prevalent in America, which is usually decried as a materialistic country.

00:10:12.640 After this digression, I come to my proper theme in the hope that no more weight

00:10:17.640 will be attached to my modest remarks than they deserve.

00:10:20.640 But what strikes the visitor with amazement is the superiority of this country in matters of

00:10:27.640 techniques and organization.

00:10:31.640 Objects of everyday use are more solid than Europe.

00:10:34.640 Houses are more convenient in arrangement.

00:10:37.640 Everything is designed to save human labor, because labor is expensive,

00:10:42.640 because the country is sparsely inhabited in comparison with its natural resources.

00:10:48.640 The high price of labor, which was the stimulus which evoked the marvelous development

00:10:53.640 of technical devices and methods of work.

00:10:56.640 The opposite extreme is illustrated by overpopulated China and India,

00:11:01.640 where the low price of labor has stood in the way of development.

00:11:07.640 Europe is halfway between the two.

00:11:12.640 The second thing that strikes a visitor is the joyous, positive attitude to life.

00:11:22.640 Does that strike the visitor to America?

00:11:27.640 I suppose.

00:11:31.640 Compared to the rest of the world?

00:11:33.640 Perhaps.

00:11:34.640 The European is more critical, more self-conscious, less good-hearted, less helpful, more isolated,

00:11:45.640 more fastidious in his amusements, in his reading, and generally more or less a pessimist.

00:11:52.640 Great importance attaches to the material comforts of life and peace and freedom from care.

00:11:59.640 Security are all sacrificed to them.

00:12:04.640 The American lives for ambition, the future.

00:12:08.640 Life for him is always becoming, never being.

00:12:14.640 Are we still those people?

00:12:18.640 Where Europe is about the material comforts of life, freedom from care, and security sacrificed to them?

00:12:28.640 Are we still the people that live for ambition, for the future, that life is always becoming and never being?

00:12:45.640 More emphasis is laid on the we than the I.

00:12:49.640 The fact is chiefly responsible for America's economic superiority.

00:12:55.640 Cooperation and the division of labor are carried through more easily and with less friction than elsewhere,

00:13:04.640 whether in the factory or the university or private good works.

00:13:08.640 They have a social sense.

00:13:11.640 It strikes me that we have started a course that none of us really want to go down.

00:13:33.640 But I think all of us see the course that we're on.

00:13:40.640 And we all know that it's bad.

00:13:42.640 We all know that we're headed for catastrophe.

00:13:49.640 We're headed for rocks.

00:13:52.640 And it will tear the hull of the ship apart.

00:13:59.640 We all know it.

00:14:02.640 We all say it doesn't have to be this way.

00:14:08.640 We all are tired of arguing with each other.

00:14:13.640 I don't know a single soul that wants to see a bad cop.

00:14:25.640 That wants to see a cop beat a man, shoot a man.

00:14:32.640 And I don't know a soul that wants to see anyone beat or shoot a good cop.

00:14:47.640 Another thing that made America different is that for the most part, we had never had a government that came between us.

00:15:04.640 We had never had a government that told us that our enemy was our neighbor, that we should watch out for them, that we shouldn't trust them.

00:15:23.640 I suppose we had that in the 1830s with Andrew Jackson, but he was talking about non-citizens, of course.

00:15:34.640 He was talking about the Native American.

00:15:38.640 American.

00:15:41.640 I suppose we had that under the English and until Abraham Lincoln, where we were told that blacks weren't fully human, certainly not American.

00:16:00.640 We had that in World War I, when we were told that Germans, and later in World War II, when we were told that Japanese needed to be rounded up, even though they were American citizens.

00:16:21.640 Somehow or another, though, we always escaped.

00:16:24.640 Somehow or another, we still in the end came back together.

00:16:29.640 I know people think this might, this is corny.

00:16:36.640 But I still believe in the American people.

00:16:42.640 I still believe in my neighbor.

00:16:46.640 I don't believe in the grand vision of all of us.

00:16:55.640 But I do believe in the person who lives down the street from me, who thinks differently.

00:17:02.640 And the day we lose that is the day we don't turn around.

00:17:12.640 It's the day when we have truly lost everything that it means to truly be an American.

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00:19:02.640 Glenn Beck.

00:19:05.640 Mercury.

00:19:06.640 Glenn Beck.

00:19:19.640 Welcome to the program.

00:19:20.640 A lot happened this weekend.

00:19:22.640 Let's see.

00:19:23.640 Uranium One.

00:19:24.640 There was an arrest made.

00:19:26.640 Looks like that investigation is continuing, which is a very good piece of news.

00:19:34.640 That involves Hillary Clinton and a lot of other people in Washington, D.C.

00:19:40.640 Go ahead.

00:19:41.640 Yeah, we should point out next week we have a review of everything.

00:19:45.640 This entire case, Uranium One, because it's a complicated case that's been going on for multiple years.

00:19:48.640 There's a lot of rumor out there, a lot of stuff that's not true.

00:19:51.640 It's our chalkboard.

00:19:52.640 It's our chalkboard next week on the TV show, 5 p.m. on the.

00:19:55.640 Yeah.

00:19:56.640 And it's really good.

00:19:57.640 We're going to understand why this arrest is so important next week.

00:20:01.640 We'll talk about that.

00:20:02.640 Also, the biggest shooting in American history.

00:20:07.640 And we still don't know what the hell is going on.

00:20:11.640 Even more complex on Friday.

00:20:14.640 We go there to Las Vegas next.

00:20:17.640 Glenn Beck.

00:20:18.640 Mercury.

00:20:19.640 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:30.640 Jason Betrill is our chief researcher.

00:20:34.640 He was with military intelligence for quite a while during the war and and has been with me now for about five years and is following a few stories for us that are kind of the longer term stories.

00:20:48.640 One of them is absolutely perplexing, and that is the Vegas shooting.

00:20:54.640 This is the the the biggest shooting in American history.

00:21:02.640 It is also a shooting that didn't happen in 1956.

00:21:06.640 It happened with today's technology.

00:21:09.640 It's more well documented than any other shooting in American history because of the number of cell phones and it happened in a Vegas casino.

00:21:20.640 The number of cameras in a Vegas casino are endless.

00:21:27.640 And yet we know less about the shooter and what happened than I think most convenience store crimes.

00:21:37.640 We have not seen any footage from inside.

00:21:41.640 We don't have a real motive.

00:21:44.640 And on Friday, the government dumped.

00:21:48.640 Now, remember, Friday is is known if you're in the news business.

00:21:51.640 Friday is known as a day you dump stories that you don't want anybody to talk about because it'll come out on a Friday, usually in the afternoon.

00:21:59.640 And then that leaves that for a Saturday report or a Friday night report on television and Saturday in the press.

00:22:09.640 Maybe it gets to Sunday, but by Monday, nobody's talking about it.

00:22:14.640 It's old news.

00:22:15.640 A real dump happens on a Friday of a holiday weekend.

00:22:21.640 So by the time it happened, by the time it's a Tuesday.

00:22:26.640 Really, you're guaranteed that no one is picking that story up again.

00:22:30.640 That's when they dumped this story, this update, which is even more confusing and makes things worse.

00:22:39.640 In Vegas and Jason is here to tell us what they what they released on Friday, Jason.

00:22:43.640 So they unsealed some court documents that talked about what the FBI was going after some of their some of their, you know, requests for information and some of the things that some of the leads are going after.

00:22:56.640 And one of them centered around there.

00:22:59.640 They had these three cell phones that were in his room.

00:23:02.640 And this is this is what I thought was was really, really interesting, because he had these three.

00:23:06.640 I'm just calling them burner phones because that's what it sounded like.

00:23:09.640 One of them they have not been able to get into.

00:23:12.640 They have not been able to get into it.

00:23:14.640 And they said it was a Google operating system.

00:23:16.640 And I guess it's encrypted, but they they cannot get into that phone.

00:23:19.640 Now, think about it during the San Bernardino attack.

00:23:21.640 They, I think, got a hacker, you know, to break into that phone.

00:23:25.640 No, it was a big it was it was front page news every day for a week.

00:23:30.640 They were didn't they threaten to take Apple to court?

00:23:34.640 Yeah, they did.

00:23:35.640 They threatened to.

00:23:36.640 But then they got into it.

00:23:37.640 Correct.

00:23:38.640 Need it.

00:23:39.640 So that happened within weeks of San Bernardino.

00:23:42.640 Why have we not heard anything about this phone that is still encrypted and we can't get into it?

00:23:48.640 And why haven't they been successful?

00:23:49.640 I mean, this is the FBI we're talking about.

00:23:52.640 Like you would think that they would have found a way like they had the smarts enough to go outside the box, you know, and get a hacker to do this for them.

00:23:59.640 They apparently could not do that for this phone.

00:24:01.640 But the point is, is that he was communicating with someone, someone.

00:24:05.640 Now, not only that, but he was taking I can't remember the direct quote, but crazy steps to thwart the investigation after the fact.

00:24:13.640 That's why he was using these burner phones.

00:24:15.640 He was using he was using email accounts to, like, communicate back and forth to either himself or to other people that we don't know.

00:24:22.640 Now, that's actually spy tradecraft.

00:24:25.640 That is counterintelligence tradecraft.

00:24:27.640 Explain what that means with the emails.

00:24:30.640 Yeah.

00:24:31.640 So with the emails, it's a trick that spies are taught to do.

00:24:34.640 And coincidentally terrorists, which we can get to in a second, have also picked up on.

00:24:40.640 They also do this.

00:24:41.640 But what they do is they compose an email to themself.

00:24:43.640 It never gets sent, but they compose a draft email to themself.

00:24:47.640 And I'm speculating on this part, because I don't know that's what they did, what he did, but they compose a draft email and they save it there.

00:24:54.640 Now, whoever else will have the login credentials for that account and they can access that anywhere.

00:25:00.640 So it never actually goes over the airway.

00:25:02.640 Another way that this was utilized was General Petraeus.

00:25:05.640 Yes.

00:25:06.640 When he was having his affair, that's how he was talking to this woman.

00:25:08.640 Exactly right.

00:25:09.640 He would just type something, save as draft.

00:25:11.640 Someone else, she would log in, look in the draft folder, and they would update their conversation there rather than sending it.

00:25:16.640 The head of the CIA trusts these counterintelligence.

00:25:19.640 These methods work.

00:25:20.640 You know, encryption on phones works.

00:25:22.640 These types of things work.

00:25:23.640 Now, he was told to do this by someone or he just researched it and did it himself.

00:25:27.640 But the point is...

00:25:28.640 And he had several of those mail sites?

00:25:30.640 Multiple.

00:25:31.640 Yeah, I think I read of at least two.

00:25:33.640 And we don't know what those letters to himself said.

00:25:38.640 We know of a couple of them that they talked about in these court docs.

00:25:41.640 One of them talked about, hey, you should check out this AR with the bump stock or something like that.

00:25:45.640 And there was something else talking about how thrilling an AR is or something like that.

00:25:49.640 Okay.

00:25:50.640 Again, you can't tell if he's talking to himself or this is somebody else going back and forth.

00:25:53.640 They couldn't tell.

00:25:54.640 Now, he's trying to...

00:25:55.640 He's doing all this because he doesn't want people to find out after the...

00:25:59.640 He doesn't want the investigators after the fact to follow his trail.

00:26:01.640 Why is he doing that?

00:26:03.640 Now, I've studied these cases from my last job before when I was with a threat assessment and protection company as well when I was in the military.

00:26:10.640 But assassins do not follow this type of profile.

00:26:14.640 This is not the profile of an assassin that just wants to become famous.

00:26:18.640 Most of them, that's what they want.

00:26:19.640 Yeah, he's avoiding fame as much as possible.

00:26:22.640 Exactly right.

00:26:23.640 He doesn't want people knowing the motive.

00:26:24.640 He doesn't want people to know the story of how he did all of this.

00:26:27.640 You'd think of as a person who's just like trying to set a record, right?

00:26:31.640 I killed the most people.

00:26:32.640 That's kind of would be at least part of your motivation.

00:26:34.640 Or the other is he's a guy who's gotten in trouble.

00:26:38.640 He owes a great deal of money to some nefarious people and he's desperate.

00:26:45.640 Either one of those.

00:26:47.640 I want to be famous or I'm desperate.

00:26:49.640 You don't do this.

00:26:50.640 Supposedly, he had the cognitive ability.

00:26:52.640 They're saying he might be crazy, but he had the cognitive ability to go through the steps,

00:26:56.640 through the steps that a high level Al Qaeda operative or a spy would go to mask his, hide his tracks.

00:27:04.640 And that sort of works with some of the things we've learned about this guy in that he was really a meticulous person.

00:27:11.640 He was really a mathematical thinker.

00:27:13.640 You know, he would go and do all these things at the casino to try to get advantage.

00:27:17.640 And he was that type of guy, that gambler's brain.

00:27:21.640 Right.

00:27:22.640 So some of that is consistent, right?

00:27:24.640 I don't see him being a very meticulous person.

00:27:26.640 But why?

00:27:27.640 What's the motivation?

00:27:28.640 That's the question.

00:27:29.640 Why?

00:27:30.640 And who is he?

00:27:31.640 In my mind, he's protecting some person or multiple people.

00:27:33.640 That's what it sounds like.

00:27:34.640 Now, another document that came out in this in this release was that his girlfriend might

00:27:39.640 have been a little bit more involved in this than what we actually thought.

00:27:42.640 Now, apparently she told the FBI that, oh, you're probably going to find some of my fingerprints

00:27:46.640 on some of the rounds because I helped him load some of the magazines.

00:27:50.640 Yeah.

00:27:51.640 Now, that's a pretty big deal.

00:27:52.640 Now, apparently she she put the little caveat on that.

00:27:55.640 Oh, but I didn't know he was going to attack anybody.

00:27:57.640 Right.

00:27:58.640 She said she did this regularly for him.

00:28:00.640 Right.

00:28:01.640 And one of those things where, you know, there's there's a lot of magazines.

00:28:04.640 He's shooting a lot.

00:28:05.640 It's not implausible that she could do that.

00:28:06.640 But it is an interesting detail.

00:28:08.640 My my you know, my children and everybody's fingerprints in my family are on the rounds

00:28:14.640 that we have loaded for weapons that I have that we go taking to the, you know, to the

00:28:19.640 shooting range.

00:28:20.640 So, you know, that's not uncommon.

00:28:23.640 It is.

00:28:24.640 It is interesting, though.

00:28:25.640 We've seen this in a couple of different cases.

00:28:26.640 The Pulse nightclub shooting being the other recent one is that it starts out as, by the

00:28:31.640 way, we know the the significant other had nothing to do with this, had no knowledge.

00:28:35.640 And then slowly over months, we start to learn that, you know, like the Pulse nightclub

00:28:40.640 shooting.

00:28:41.640 She's now saying that she knew that he was going to shoot up the Pulse nightclub.

00:28:44.640 That's a big freaking deal that made almost no waves.

00:28:47.640 And here, like it doesn't seem to be that dramatic yet, at least in this Vegas situation.

00:28:52.640 So he traveled a lot, if I'm not mistaken.

00:28:55.640 Right.

00:28:56.640 Right.

00:28:57.640 And I'm trying to remember they tried to look to see if he had traveled to the Middle East

00:29:04.640 and he had but no real connections there.

00:29:07.640 Did anybody look to see if he had traveled anywhere near the Soviet old Soviet block?

00:29:12.640 I don't remember seeing that.

00:29:14.640 I'm not sure if anyone looked into it, but he did.

00:29:16.640 What's more damning?

00:29:17.640 What's even more damning than actually getting caught traveling to the Middle East as he was

00:29:20.640 is he was back and forth to the Philippines all the time.

00:29:22.640 His girlfriend was actually in the Philippines when this attack went down.

00:29:25.640 That's right.

00:29:26.640 And she deleted her Facebook account from the Philippines.

00:29:29.640 That was the crazy detail in that report.

00:29:30.640 Which we just found out.

00:29:31.640 Yeah.

00:29:32.640 I mean, that one was bizarre.

00:29:33.640 So before it was known or at least publicly known who the shooter was, she delete she first

00:29:41.640 put her Facebook on private and then deleted it before they had announced it was her boyfriend

00:29:45.640 who had done the shooting.

00:29:47.640 Now, maybe she got an email from him right before he shot himself.

00:29:50.640 And so she knew something was I mean, there could be an explanation to that, but it didn't

00:29:54.640 seem to be contained in that report.

00:29:55.640 That's a crazy detail, though.

00:29:57.640 I mean, again, like before we knew who this person was, she was putting her Facebook on

00:30:03.640 private and then deleting it completely.

00:30:05.640 I mean, maybe she got wind of it early, right?

00:30:07.640 Maybe they started investigating her.

00:30:09.640 It's still not a good idea to start deleting Facebook pages when you're on investigation.

00:30:12.640 But still, I also want to point out, though, that, you know, at the time of the attack,

00:30:17.640 one of the last ISIS just want to throw this out there, one of the last ISIS strongholds

00:30:22.640 and holdouts was in the Philippines in Marawi.

00:30:25.640 I think it would fall about 30 days later or something like that or a few days later.

00:30:29.640 But just going to throw that out there because the one person organization that did claim

00:30:33.640 responsibility for this, which seems so ridiculous that it just kind of went poof

00:30:37.640 into the air was the ISIS connection.

00:30:40.640 They stood by it multiple times, kept going after it.

00:30:43.640 I'm just saying.

00:30:45.640 My question is, why is the press not pursuing this?

00:30:53.640 Now, I know some of this stuff was released on Friday because the press was demanding that

00:30:59.640 they release some things.

00:31:00.640 They've taken the government to court to release some of this information.

00:31:07.640 But I don't see it.

00:31:10.640 It's it's it's odd that I don't see the press really going for this.

00:31:15.640 And I don't see the government.

00:31:18.640 I've never seen the government behave this way.

00:31:21.640 Have you?

00:31:22.640 No, I mean, multiple screw ups in the beginning.

00:31:25.640 No, not multiple screw ups, multiple changes that were dramatic and not in the first few

00:31:37.640 minutes or the first few hours, like changes to the storyline much later.

00:31:43.640 And then the the only real witness only goes on Ellen where he's guaranteed to not be asked any tough

00:31:51.640 questions and then disappears.

00:31:53.640 I mean, there's there's there's just there's just too many things that aren't right here.

00:31:59.640 Yeah, there's multiple people that I think have a lot to lose.

00:32:01.640 If this goes like I, I don't really have any doubt that I think the hotel screw security screwed

00:32:07.640 some stuff up.

00:32:08.640 Yeah, we've spoken about that before.

00:32:10.640 There's just so many conflicting reports.

00:32:11.640 But there's it's so hard to get that perfectly right and avoid some kind of litigation and an attack of

00:32:17.640 this magnitude.

00:32:18.640 Yeah, it's not surprising.

00:32:19.640 Yeah. So I agree with you on that.

00:32:21.640 Some of this could be explained that the hotel is like, oh, geez, are we screwed with lawsuits?

00:32:27.640 And, you know, they they don't want anything.

00:32:30.640 You know, they're doing everything they can to cover some tracks of some some things procedures

00:32:34.640 not necessarily being followed.

00:32:36.640 But I it's there's more to it than that.

00:32:39.640 There's there seems to be more to it than that.

00:32:42.640 All right. We want to get into uranium one quickly with Jason.

00:32:46.640 And also Moby has come out and said that he was talked to by the CIA.

00:32:53.640 This is the most ridiculous story I have seen.

00:32:57.640 And suddenly over the weekend, it's almost like somebody called him and said, really?

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00:34:54.640 Glenn Beck.

00:34:56.640 Mercury.

00:35:06.640 Glenn Beck.

00:35:09.640 A couple of stories here.

00:35:10.640 I want to ask Jason Betrill, who's our head researcher and former military intelligence, a couple of things.

00:35:16.640 First of all, in relation to Uranium One, there was another news dump that happened on Friday.

00:35:21.640 And that is that Mark Lambert, the former co-president of the Maryland-based shipping company, was charged with 11 count indictment.

00:35:33.640 Charges include one count of conspiracy to violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, also wire fraud, international promotion of money laundering.

00:35:43.640 This ties back to Uranium One, Hillary Clinton, and the Russians, which we are going to be exposing and explaining next week in a chalkboard.

00:35:54.640 Any thoughts on this one, Jason, quickly?

00:35:56.640 I'm curious if this new FBI informant had anything to do with this at all.

00:36:00.640 He knew that he was coming forward and allowed to speak for the very first time.

00:36:03.640 So I wonder if he is starting to spill the beans and maybe there's going to be more things that come out over this, some juicy details.

00:36:08.640 Maybe this is the domino one of a big, long chain.

00:36:12.640 You know, we'll see.

00:36:13.640 The second thing was Moby got on radio in Louisville, Kentucky last weekend or last week.

00:36:22.640 The first time in many years for Moby.

00:36:25.640 And he said that the CIA agents who he knows asked him to post on social media about the alleged Trump Russia ties.

00:36:36.640 And they came to him and said, we can't do it, but you can.

00:36:40.640 You got to get the information out.

00:36:42.640 And he's been, you know, obviously very outspoken about Donald Trump.

00:36:46.640 He made that announcement in Louisville last week on a local radio show.

00:36:51.640 And then on Saturday retracted all of it and said, OK, OK, the CIA did not tell me to do that.

00:36:58.640 But other intelligence people did.

00:37:00.640 What are your thoughts on that?

00:37:02.640 Total bullcrap.

00:37:03.640 Yeah.

00:37:04.640 Oh, my God.

00:37:05.640 What is he smoking?

00:37:06.640 I mean, that's crazy.

00:37:08.640 The CIA does not operate that way.

00:37:10.640 You don't go to people like Moby?

00:37:12.640 Why?

00:37:13.640 Well, you go to the old techno artist is a big target of leaks by the CIA, aren't they?

00:37:20.640 That's the way that works.

00:37:21.640 No?

00:37:22.640 Depeche mode.

00:37:23.640 Wait till you see what they do.

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00:37:48.640 Glenn Beck.

00:37:49.640 It has been three and a half months since the worst mass shooting in modern American history.

00:37:55.640 The shooter killed 58 people, wounded more than 500 others.

00:38:00.640 And we still don't have any idea why.

00:38:04.640 Why hasn't a flood of information hit the public by now?

00:38:07.640 I mean, in this day and age, when leaks to the media drop almost daily, we haven't seen a single frame of security camera footage of the shooter inside the hotel.

00:38:20.640 Why?

00:38:21.640 The only thing law enforcement seems sure of now is that they can't nail down an accurate timeline for the attack.

00:38:27.640 But this happened in a casino.

00:38:29.640 There are more cameras there than than Great Britain.

00:38:33.640 That any prison.

00:38:35.640 This is bar none.

00:38:37.640 One of the strangest investigations in modern history.

00:38:40.640 New court documents were unsealed on Friday.

00:38:43.640 And then rather than clearing anything up, they were left us more confused than ever.

00:38:47.640 The motive is a mystery.

00:38:49.640 Much of what has to do with the steps that the shooter took to keep everything secret is just starting to come out.

00:38:58.640 The FBI said that the shooter planned the attack, quote, meticulously and took many methodical steps to avoid detection of his plot and to thwart the eventual law enforcement investigation that would follow, end quote.

00:39:14.640 Why?

00:39:15.640 Why would he do that?

00:39:17.640 The shooter used multiple email accounts to plan the attack.

00:39:21.640 Not one, but three cell phones were found in his hotel room.

00:39:25.640 One of those phones is so well protected that the FBI hasn't figured out how to unlock it.

00:39:32.640 That doesn't make sense.

00:39:34.640 If there was no motive for the attack, if it was just a deranged man with a gambling debt, who was he talking to via multiple email accounts and secret burner phones?

00:39:46.640 After this new dump of information, the explanation that we've been given does not fit the profile.

00:39:52.640 Assassins don't do these type of attacks.

00:39:55.640 They don't worry about the follow up investigation.

00:39:58.640 To the contrary, they want people to know.

00:40:01.640 This suggests the shooter was protecting someone.

00:40:04.640 Was it his girlfriend?

00:40:05.640 Could be.

00:40:06.640 Court documents revealed for the first time that she actually helped the gun gunman load some of the magazines and she deleted her Facebook page right after the attack before he was known to be involved.

00:40:19.640 Did she know the attack was going to happen?

00:40:22.640 Did he reach out to her?

00:40:23.640 Who else was involved?

00:40:25.640 These are the answers that may be locked in that cell phone.

00:40:29.640 These are the answers that we should be asking and the government should be transparent.

00:40:36.640 When they hide secrets.

00:40:39.640 That's when trouble really starts.

00:40:42.640 Americans deserve the truth.

00:40:45.640 It's Monday, January 15th.

00:40:55.640 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:00.640 For 50 years ago, Martin Luther King was assassinated.

00:41:08.640 And America seemed to get better for a while.

00:41:12.640 And we have gone backwards.

00:41:15.640 Did we actually get better or were we just avoiding the real issues?

00:41:20.640 Tonight in Dallas, a very brave man is is looking to King and his legacy.

00:41:31.640 And is sponsoring a course correction conversation.

00:41:36.640 And it brings.

00:41:39.640 It brings.

00:41:40.640 It brings people together that I think.

00:41:44.640 I should say this.

00:41:46.640 I think all of us would welcome see come together.

00:41:51.640 But for some reason, it seems like there are forces that want to keep us all apart.

00:41:57.640 Alton Sterling was killed by a by the police in Louisiana.

00:42:02.640 If you remember that horrible video, he was down on the ground and the police officer just pulled out his gun and put it to his chest and and shot him.

00:42:14.640 And this is what sparked a lot of the violence.

00:42:19.640 And the reason why three officers were killed in Baton Rouge shortly thereafter.

00:42:28.640 Alton's family coming together with two of the widows of the slain police officers to find reconciliation.

00:42:41.640 And the man who is is putting it all together is is here with us now.

00:42:48.640 He started urban specialists, urban specialists.

00:42:53.640 Well, I'll let him explain.

00:42:55.640 Pastor Omar Jawar.

00:42:56.640 How are you, sir?

00:42:57.640 Oh, I'm so good to be here.

00:42:59.640 I'm glad to be here.

00:43:00.640 I feel good to be here.

00:43:01.640 Thank you.

00:43:02.640 So tell me.

00:43:03.640 Tell me what you're doing tonight, because I mean, you've got the victims on both sides.

00:43:09.640 You have you have people like Ted Cruz coming.

00:43:12.640 You have all walks of life coming tonight.

00:43:15.640 Yeah.

00:43:16.640 You know, first, thank you.

00:43:17.640 Thank you for allowing me to be on.

00:43:18.640 You've been on today and what you what you do.

00:43:21.640 I mean, that sincerely.

00:43:22.640 That is step of faith.

00:43:24.640 Thank you, because we need that affirmation.

00:43:26.640 But what we're basically doing is what you describe in the course correction.

00:43:30.640 It is saying that there is a way that we can reach a higher ground.

00:43:34.640 And the way we reach it is we have to share each other's pain and not point at those who are in pain and say it may be your fault.

00:43:40.640 You got to figure out where do we have that commonality and no greater no greater pain is that in the lose a loved one instantly.

00:43:48.640 And see, for the last 20 years, I've been working in the area of gang intervention and youth violence.

00:43:53.640 So I've seen how death can become that that that sting that never goes away.

00:43:59.640 And so you just kind of bury it and you hide it and you just kind of move on and you never really heal.

00:44:06.640 And so the way you heal is you got to expose a little bit of that pain.

00:44:10.640 And then you find others who are going through the same thing.

00:44:13.640 And then we join together and say, let's heal together through a shared process of coming together and using our conversations to build and not tear down.

00:44:23.640 So Martin Luther King talked about reconciliation and he refused to use the language of winning and losing because for one side to win, the other side has to lose.

00:44:37.640 Right.

00:44:38.640 And I'm shocked at how many people are missing this point today.

00:44:43.640 We're all talking about winning, winning, winning, winning.

00:44:47.640 We're all going to lose if that is the case.

00:44:50.640 Absolutely.

00:44:51.640 And people view reconciliation as weakness.

00:44:54.640 Right.

00:44:55.640 You know, there is this there's this new mantra that says the toughest and the bravest has to be the most arrogant and the most visceral.

00:45:06.640 But that's not true.

00:45:07.640 See, when you're in the jungle, you don't want to become more animal because you can't be more animal than animal.

00:45:12.640 You have to become more human, more civil.

00:45:15.640 You have to go up, not down.

00:45:16.640 But it's easy.

00:45:17.640 It's easy to just live in your emotion and let that guide you.

00:45:22.640 But it only leads to a sense of debilitating frustration.

00:45:27.640 You'd never get better.

00:45:28.640 You know, I tell guys all the time, man, it's it may be fun and fashionable to be ferocious, but it leaves you empty.

00:45:36.640 And so you and you can't feel that empty, but emptiness.

00:45:39.640 But one thing and that's love and love causes you to be vulnerable.

00:45:43.640 It's like we have figured out expect.

00:45:45.640 Now I'm a Christian and I tell people I wear my Christ out loud.

00:45:49.640 You know, it's not hidden.

00:45:51.640 So Christ teaches me that redemption is the point is not the step.

00:45:57.640 It is the point that we can be redeemed and you can't be redeemed unless you've been at that place of brokenness.

00:46:03.640 And so we're saying that God uses broken vessels.

00:46:06.640 And so we bring in these broken vessels and say, maybe we can build a puzzle called you and me and you and you.

00:46:14.640 And we figure out how this works, because there is good and there is redemption in all of us.

00:46:20.640 We just got to be bold enough to say, let's do it.

00:46:22.640 So are you finding you finding this harder or easier as the days go on?

00:46:30.640 Oh, man. Tonight, we're going to have a great time.

00:46:34.640 Tuesday, I'm going to sleep until Thursday, because it's much more difficult than I thought,

00:46:40.640 because I figured everyone would be excited about having a way that we heal.

00:46:44.640 But, you know, man, it's so many factions and those factions beget more factions.

00:46:50.640 Yes.

00:46:51.640 And then you have that buzz called social media that takes words and twists them and takes ideas

00:46:57.640 and takes your weakest moment and make that your only moment, you know.

00:47:00.640 Yeah.

00:47:01.640 And so, yeah, it's very it's very difficult.

00:47:03.640 You know, like you said, I have those who are from the communities that I normally work in.

00:47:08.640 They say, oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

00:47:11.640 You got Ted Cruz and you got Scarface and you got, you know, Marcus Peters.

00:47:17.640 And you got Deion Sanders and you got pastors.

00:47:20.640 And is this not making sense?

00:47:22.640 I said, right.

00:47:23.640 It's exactly.

00:47:24.640 Jesus had a tax collector.

00:47:27.640 Yeah.

00:47:28.640 And some fishermen.

00:47:29.640 Yeah.

00:47:30.640 And a woman who had some demons and it has a cast.

00:47:34.640 That's the point of this, is that you don't know who God will use.

00:47:38.640 You just got to be willing to allow him to use everyone and don't be afraid.

00:47:42.640 So you can't be afraid to do this.

00:47:44.640 And so, yeah, it's much more challenging than I thought it would be.

00:47:49.640 So Martin Luther King was I mean, it's it's amazing to me when you look at Malcolm X.

00:47:54.640 Malcolm X was killed because he figured out reconciliation was the answer.

00:48:01.640 Martin Luther King was was demonized and and stirred up to his death.

00:48:12.640 Right.

00:48:13.640 Because of reconciliation.

00:48:14.640 And I am I am shocked at the number of people who claim to be really good Christians that feel that love and reconciliation is ridiculous.

00:48:32.640 Right.

00:48:33.640 And and as they say it, I almost think to myself, where is your testimony?

00:48:40.640 Yeah.

00:48:41.640 What what Jesus do you believe in?

00:48:44.640 Right.

00:48:45.640 Because that is his entire message.

00:48:47.640 Right.

00:48:48.640 Right.

00:48:49.640 You know, you know, you just said those two who were trying to preach redemption, they got killed.

00:48:55.640 So you just made me nervous.

00:48:56.640 I know.

00:48:57.640 I know.

00:48:58.640 I might not show up tonight.

00:49:00.640 But I think that what happens is a person can get so emotional in the pain that they are suffering that they actually don't believe that healing is possible.

00:49:11.640 Mm hmm.

00:49:12.640 And so you get comfortable with a limp.

00:49:14.640 And when someone says it may take you doing rehabilitation, but you can walk again or you can walk better.

00:49:20.640 You say, I'm OK with this limp because it's easier for me to find others who are limping just like me.

00:49:26.640 And so we all can compare limbs, you know, and rehabilitation takes some effort on the on the part of the person who wants to be healed, who wants to be better.

00:49:35.640 I mean, no greater witness than someone who has to walk through it.

00:49:39.640 I mean, the two young ladies from Baton Rouge, Tanya and Tranisha, who are widows of great fallen officers who, in my opinion, are so they are so desperately hopeful that my job is to make sure that their hope don't leave without a witness.

00:50:04.640 I have to be a witness to them so that they can witness to others that they are remarkable.

00:50:09.640 I mean, absolutely remarkable.

00:50:10.640 They're going to be joining us here in a few minutes.

00:50:12.640 Yeah. And and, you know, the way they are in truth.

00:50:15.640 I mean, you know, the light that they shine when I met them, I met them through a young man and watch this.

00:50:21.640 It was a guy named Clay, Clay Young in Baton Rouge, who is a business guy, young guy who said, I don't want my city to go like this.

00:50:30.640 You know, it's one hundred and three murders that has happened in Baton Rouge in one year.

00:50:35.640 And he just decided this is not this is not how this is supposed to be.

00:50:40.640 And so he started getting people from the north and the south rich and the poor and the preachers.

00:50:44.640 And so let's just go walk the community, knock on doors and say, how can we help?

00:50:48.640 And it was through him. I said, who what's the light?

00:50:52.640 He said, man, one thing that lights me up is Tranisha and Tanya.

00:50:55.640 And he introduced me to them and their passion led me to say, I got to let the world see that they've been in pain, but they have not given up.

00:51:04.640 And these can inspire you.

00:51:06.640 One of the words I say is only inspired people can inspire people.

00:51:10.640 So you can't be inspired. That's why I love you.

00:51:13.640 I love your passion because inspiration can get in.

00:51:16.640 Hope can drive you when you don't have product.

00:51:18.640 So you got to find people who are hopeful even when they don't have an answer.

00:51:22.640 They just know this.

00:51:23.640 This is this question is answerable.

00:51:25.640 So we're going to keep forging forward until we finance.

00:51:28.640 And then we start finding other answers like the family of Alton Sterling, who are not bitter.

00:51:33.640 They're in pain, but they're not bitter.

00:51:35.640 And I said this. We have to show the world that even in the polarized opposites, we can find a place of redemption.

00:51:42.640 And if they can do it, then we can do it.

00:51:44.640 Certainly, if they can do it, they're in much more pain than than we are.

00:51:49.640 Right.

00:51:50.640 More in just a second.

00:51:51.640 Stand by.

00:51:53.640 So public invited tonight.

00:51:55.640 Absolutely.

00:51:56.640 And where can they go?

00:51:57.640 Gillies.

00:51:58.640 They can go online, but they say Gillies in Dallas.

00:52:01.640 At what time?

00:52:02.640 6 p.m.

00:52:03.640 Okay. And online?

00:52:04.640 They can go to urbanspecialist.org and backslash 3C.

00:52:11.640 Got it.

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00:53:47.640 Glenn Beck.

00:53:49.640 Mercury.

00:54:01.640 Glenn Beck.

00:54:04.640 Welcome back to the program.

00:54:07.640 We're we're joined today by Pastor Omar Jawar, who is is a big deal here in Dallas.

00:54:15.640 He has been working with the youth on the streets of of Dallas with something.

00:54:22.640 He started urban specialists, and he he has been working with former gang members in prison.

00:54:32.640 You also have a you've kind of partnered with a former gang leader guy who brought.

00:54:38.640 What is it?

00:54:39.640 The Crips here.

00:54:40.640 The bloods.

00:54:41.640 The bloods.

00:54:42.640 Yeah.

00:54:43.640 Be careful.

00:54:44.640 Yeah.

00:54:45.640 And and I got to believe that's a that's not an easy sell.

00:54:53.640 Oh, I mean, I mean, I mean, to tell the guy that your your characteristic is a market advantage, but your character needs to be transformed.

00:55:04.640 That no matter how good you are at this, it will lead to your death or your permanent imprisonment.

00:55:10.640 And for them to believe you, they have to first agree that you are a witness and that I'm not trying to use you for my gang.

00:55:17.640 I'm trying to get you at your best height so you can do what God has called you to do.

00:55:21.640 I mean, that was a very difficult sale.

00:55:23.640 But at the end of the day, I'm lucky who you guys will see tonight.

00:55:28.640 He has been the probably the most permanent example of transformation that I see.

00:55:34.640 So when I want to see what redemption looks like, I look at him.

00:55:38.640 Is this an event I can bring my kids to?

00:55:40.640 Oh, absolutely.

00:55:41.640 It is absolutely.

00:55:43.640 I'm encouraging everyone bring your kids, bring your spouses, bring this.

00:55:47.640 This is that moment that that you say, OK, this this could work.

00:55:52.640 I mean, this this idea of us coming together could work.

00:55:56.640 You got it.

00:55:57.640 So this is our flair that we're shooting up into the culture and saying, just look, look, look at what I see.

00:56:03.640 I was I'm telling you, Glenn, when you see when you when you see the people because we've got so many people coming on stage and they are flawed.

00:56:11.640 Yeah.

00:56:12.640 Yeah.

00:56:13.640 Obvious.

00:56:14.640 And they're on both sides.

00:56:15.640 On both sides.

00:56:16.640 Yeah.

00:56:17.640 Yeah.

00:56:18.640 Yeah.

00:56:19.640 Everyone, man.

00:56:20.640 You got local, national business leaders, this, that, you know, and I'm saying, can we all just get in this one room?

00:56:25.640 You remember how not you remember how 9-11 pulled America together and it was it was no longer us and them.

00:56:32.640 It was we had to figure this out and we had to figure that together.

00:56:35.640 I think that this is a 9-11 moment in that we are dealing with this idea of violence at its core.

00:56:44.640 See, it's not just the irrational violence of someone getting shot, whether it be police, whether it be community.

00:56:50.640 It's the idea that violence has become an acceptable language to how you deal with pain and conflict.

00:56:57.640 Mm hmm.

00:56:58.640 And when that becomes societal's catchphrase, well, I'll just and they deserve where you get into a dangerous ground because you you you said something earlier.

00:57:08.640 I was listening to you that it was 58 people murdered in Las Vegas.

00:57:13.640 Mm hmm.

00:57:14.640 And we are now saying, man, what what was the trigger that caused him to pull that trigger that caused him to do that?

00:57:19.640 And we really don't know.

00:57:20.640 I'm with you.

00:57:21.640 We need to find out.

00:57:22.640 But at the end of the day, it's because the culture has accepted this language of violence and annihilation as an acceptable form of dealing with conflict.

00:57:32.640 And then when you can put them in bags is when you can label them to you, you can say, yeah, that's so he's on the right.

00:57:38.440 And so I was right.

00:57:39.480 You know, that's a left when you can do that easily.

00:57:42.740 Then it becomes see with a gang.

00:57:45.100 This is what I learned dealing with gangs.

00:57:47.580 Hang on.

00:57:47.960 We got to take a quick break.

00:57:48.840 We're going to come back and we're going to introduce you to two widows of fallen police officers who are remarkable.

00:57:56.620 That Mercury.

00:58:02.640 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:58:08.780 Welcome back to the program.

00:58:10.000 It's Martin Luther King Day.

00:58:11.200 And we wanted to spend some time on something that is happening here in Dallas tonight at Gillies.

00:58:17.220 And you were invited to attend.

00:58:19.280 I want to take my family has plans tonight, but I can't think of anything more important than than this.

00:58:25.780 And my kids should witness because we are all all of us are going to face this.

00:58:31.940 We all have to decide who we are and where we're headed.

00:58:36.360 Bishop Omar Jawar is with us.

00:58:39.080 He is the founder and CEO of Urban Specialists, and he is doing a course correction conversation tonight.

00:58:45.700 You can find out all about it at urban specialist dot org.

00:58:48.080 But he is bringing some people together that don't agree and are feeling pain on both sides.

00:59:00.240 And I want to introduce you to a couple of them.

00:59:04.280 Trenesha Jackson.

00:59:05.400 She is the widow of Montrell Jackson.

00:59:07.100 He is the Baton Rouge police officer that was killed a couple of years ago, along with his partner, Brad Garofola.

00:59:16.480 Did I say that right?

00:59:17.840 No.

00:59:18.520 Can you say it for me?

00:59:19.420 It's Garofola.

00:59:20.320 Garofola.

00:59:20.960 Sorry.

00:59:22.080 And his widow is here.

00:59:25.140 Tanya, welcome to the program.

00:59:27.340 I'm glad to have you both here.

00:59:28.420 I'm sure that this is one of the last places you want to be.

00:59:41.520 And Trenesha, you are really, you have a heavy mantle to carry because we, all of us, I think, remember your husband's Facebook post.

00:59:54.260 Uh, just a couple of days before he was killed.

00:59:57.600 And if I can quote, I'm tired physically and emotionally disappointed in some family and friends and officers for some reckless comments, but what's in your heart is in your heart.

01:00:07.580 I still love you because take a hate takes too much energy, but I definitely won't be looking at you the same.

01:00:14.980 Um, I swear to God, I love this city, but I wonder if this city loves me.

01:00:19.540 Uh, when I'm in uniform, I get nasty, hateful looks.

01:00:22.620 I've experienced so much in my short life and these last three days have tested me to the core.

01:00:28.160 Uh, look at my actions because they speak loud and clear.

01:00:31.180 These are trying times, but please don't let hate infect your heart.

01:00:35.680 This city must and will get better.

01:00:38.080 I'm working in these streets.

01:00:39.560 So any protesters, officers, friends, family, or whoever, if you see me and you need a hug or you want to say a prayer, I got you.

01:00:47.740 How did the two of you not let hate infect your heart after your husbands were taken?

01:00:59.600 Like Montrell said, it takes too much energy.

01:01:02.140 And we're already going through enough grief and pain that we just didn't need hate adding to that.

01:01:11.660 And I feel as if his Facebook post was so prophetic and it was just what I needed to survive, not to let hate infect my heart.

01:01:25.460 And so I've been doing that ever since he has closed his eyes.

01:01:29.600 I have not been letting hate infect my heart.

01:01:32.600 Even when it's times when I get upset and I'm angry, I go back and I read that post and I remember what he said, not to let hate infect my heart.

01:01:42.040 And that's what I've been doing.

01:01:43.040 I've been walking like that every day.

01:01:44.580 Since July of 2016, you both, my wife hates it when I say this to her, but you both look so tired.

01:01:55.260 We do.

01:01:56.860 You get used to sleeping next to somebody for so long, 16 years, and then all of a sudden it's gone.

01:02:05.980 Did your husband have anything similar?

01:02:10.460 Did he feel this coming at all?

01:02:12.660 He did.

01:02:13.360 He didn't have Facebook.

01:02:15.460 However, when the Dallas incident happened, I had made a reef to represent the Dallas police.

01:02:23.020 And he had actually sent it out through a mass email to the sheriff's office people and other law enforcement and saying that he was praying for them and that he had their six.

01:02:32.320 So we were obviously in Dallas and my staff was down on the street when the shots rang out and the protesters were cowering behind trees and and cars with us.

01:02:52.460 And, um, um, we started talking to each other because of that.

01:02:59.320 And we, we actually heard each other, I think, for the first time.

01:03:05.740 Um, what, what, what is it that you guys are expecting tonight come together and why are you here?

01:03:16.900 What do you hope is going to happen?

01:03:19.300 I want everyone to realize and understand that we all experience pain.

01:03:25.540 And at the end of the day, it's the same pain.

01:03:28.540 And basically to fix that pain is for us to unite.

01:03:33.720 We need to love on one another and just basically get it together.

01:03:38.040 Because I know in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 2017, the murder rate was through the roof.

01:03:45.940 And there's just so much hate, hate.

01:03:48.700 And at the end of the day, when someone loses their life, each family member is hurting and it's pain.

01:03:54.160 And we, we, we want our city to get, get it together.

01:03:59.420 How about you, Tanya?

01:04:00.980 Absolutely.

01:04:01.820 Um, hoping to come together and learn something from one another, even though our pain is the same, but we could always learn something every day.

01:04:12.160 And learning from their pain and them learning from our pain will definitely help.

01:04:18.060 You're going to, um, you're going to meet the family of, of, uh, a man who was held down on the ground by police officers and then shot, um, in a horrific video.

01:04:37.360 And they are coming tonight.

01:04:39.120 And that video is what stirred people up to kill your husbands.

01:04:47.940 What, have you met the family yet?

01:04:51.660 No.

01:04:52.240 No.

01:04:54.040 What are your thoughts going into it beforehand?

01:04:56.540 I was a little reserved at first, um, but it's not, it's not about my personal feelings.

01:05:06.640 I need to let some of that go.

01:05:08.140 And that's what I'm doing so I can move forward and so I can heal.

01:05:14.120 And I say at the end of the day, um, those kids have lost their father and my son has lost their father.

01:05:21.920 It's lost his father as well.

01:05:23.480 So I'm looking to see what I can learn from her and I'm hoping she's looking to see what she can learn from me because we both are hurting.

01:05:32.320 Pastor, you know, and I'm just, so that's what I'm saying.

01:05:37.940 Listening to them, it makes me say, stop playing, get serious with things that we take real serious and they're not for them to be able to speak on it and having, you know,

01:05:51.860 this is not a long time, you know, a year ago, and they are here trying to figure out how we can be a part of something that they have experienced personally.

01:06:01.520 It is just, it's, it's mind blowing to me.

01:06:04.520 So I'm hoping that everyone sees them and feels what I feel, a sense of obligation to do what Montreal said.

01:06:12.980 That was strong.

01:06:14.200 And I read it and, uh, and I, I, I know that this is the time I know that this is the moment I'm just, and I feel, and you know, again, my pastor.

01:06:24.580 So in my spirit, I hear it, I hear the sound.

01:06:27.920 I know it's time for us to do, to do this.

01:06:30.700 And it might be difficult.

01:06:32.180 And it is.

01:06:33.220 And she's right.

01:06:34.020 I've been asking them to do stuff.

01:06:35.500 I know it's been difficult because I know it's time and there are others who can gain from this moment is if we manage our emotions and get this message out, right, this could be a start of something.

01:06:48.660 It's, it was a really difficult conversation, um, that we had here in the studios right after the Dallas shooting, um, because we, we brought in people who were protesting and we brought in people over the other side.

01:07:03.540 Um, and, um, and, um, and, and to break through the rhetoric, to break through the stuff that you're reading online and, uh, I want to say from the people who, you know, there's some people that want to watch the world burn.

01:07:25.060 And what we found is a lot of the people that were there were horrified by this and were, they were frightened for their own families and children just in a different way.

01:07:42.760 But we had that in common that we weren't listening to each other.

01:07:48.480 We weren't, they weren't hearing our fear.

01:07:51.580 We weren't hearing their fear and all we were hearing was the rhetoric.

01:07:56.020 Right.

01:07:56.640 And that's really hard.

01:07:58.900 Well, you know, before we took a break, that's what I was about to say about gang.

01:08:02.700 What I learned from gang members is the way you take someone's life is you have to dehumanize them.

01:08:10.340 You have to make them an object.

01:08:12.520 See, the way a crip kills a blood is he's a blood.

01:08:16.500 The way a blood kills because he's a crip and they use all of these words.

01:08:19.760 But that takes away the idea.

01:08:22.140 No, that's, that's a man.

01:08:23.580 That's an individual.

01:08:24.940 That's a family member.

01:08:26.140 She said it right.

01:08:27.280 Those families feel the same pain.

01:08:29.040 And I'm going to tell you something, no matter who it is that passes, no matter how treacherous they were,

01:08:34.860 a person is still shocked and devastated when there is no chance for them to do whatever it is their life trajectory should do.

01:08:44.340 So I try to remind people that humanity is a precious gift.

01:08:49.760 Let's not take it for granted.

01:08:51.780 And, and sometimes we have to be reminded that this is real.

01:08:55.480 This is not fake.

01:08:56.440 This is, this is it.

01:08:57.460 We are, we're in a place now where we are dehumanizing each other.

01:09:02.540 I mean, uh, it's amazing to me.

01:09:07.240 I was on Facebook last night and, or Twitter and responding to some people who were just filled with, you're not a person because I disagree with you.

01:09:18.860 Right.

01:09:18.960 And is there a, is there a turning point?

01:09:23.600 Is there a place to where it's too late?

01:09:27.080 Yeah.

01:09:27.280 Well, I'm hoping not.

01:09:29.220 I'm hoping not.

01:09:30.340 That's why we're having this course correction.

01:09:31.940 But I believe that there is a place where we have so many casualties of that type of behavior that we, even when we recover it, we will recover at a lower state than we were.

01:09:42.600 You know, there's a time when things can become apocalyptic in the way we approach it.

01:09:48.380 I mean, you can become the survival of the fittest.

01:09:51.280 See, whenever you get into survival mode, then you can suspend rules.

01:09:55.220 So people say, I'm in survival mode.

01:09:56.720 So it's okay.

01:09:57.500 I do this because, and that's how, that's what we have turned, ratcheted up this noise.

01:10:04.540 You know, I want people to understand.

01:10:08.720 This is Tanya.

01:10:10.220 And it was Brad.

01:10:11.160 I want people to hear that's Trenesha.

01:10:13.000 It was Montreal.

01:10:13.980 I want them to hear that.

01:10:15.340 I want you to go through your cycle.

01:10:17.140 I want you to hear that when you hear Andrika.

01:10:20.340 She called him a seedy man.

01:10:22.840 She didn't call him Alton.

01:10:24.880 She, you know, when you see the little babies, they are babies.

01:10:28.380 I saw her baby yesterday.

01:10:29.780 And he's a big boy, too.

01:10:33.060 He's going to be big.

01:10:34.060 And, you know, I understand that this is very full circle.

01:10:39.500 But sometimes we can try to shrink it because we want it to be appropriate to the pain we feel.

01:10:45.220 And that's not what you do.

01:10:48.380 You can't do drive-by analysis on complicated issues.

01:10:51.340 You got to stay there for a moment.

01:10:52.720 I didn't know you went out when the protesters did.

01:10:55.960 I didn't know you had people here.

01:10:58.180 I did the same thing.

01:10:59.320 We had, we actually had, the day after the shooting, we brought the protesters and the police together.

01:11:07.040 And it was a very emotional, very tough conversation.

01:11:10.580 We got a lot of heat because we actually interviewed the family of the shooter and just listened to them and didn't glorify the shooter by any chance.

01:11:21.860 But we really need to listen to each other.

01:11:24.880 We really need to listen to each other.

01:11:26.920 Thank you so much for coming.

01:11:29.020 And thank you for being such a good example for your husbands and their memory.

01:11:35.620 And we are truly sorry for your loss.

01:11:38.880 Thank you.

01:11:39.300 God bless you both.

01:11:40.580 God bless you both.

01:12:10.580 And three, this is the new normal.

01:12:14.340 So in other words, if disaster strikes, you have to take care of yourself.

01:12:19.220 Next hour, we have a couple of people that experienced what happened in Hawaii this weekend.

01:12:25.520 Two very different experiences.

01:12:27.520 One, a family with a small child in a hotel room, cowering in the bathroom for 45 minutes as they were waiting to be possibly vaporized by a missile that never came.

01:12:41.860 And a commander who was on his way home, he said he broke every traffic law to get home.

01:12:49.980 But their stories are very different.

01:12:51.980 One, because one was prepared, the second one had no way to be prepared.

01:12:58.100 They were on vacation.

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01:13:35.140 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:13:37.600 You know, the thing that I think made me popular at one point

01:14:01.240 was something that I actually pray that I shed and that I lose.

01:14:11.740 And that is certitude, certainty.

01:14:20.800 You know, there's something about following somebody and listening to them when they say,

01:14:26.300 I know, follow me, this is it.

01:14:29.960 And it's very powerful.

01:14:32.020 But it is also, I think, a disease that has crept into us

01:14:36.360 that we are all so certain that we know

01:14:40.760 and that everyone else is wrong

01:14:43.420 that it stops us from hearing and listening to each other.

01:14:49.660 I pray that we can be a society that is less certain of what we know

01:14:55.880 and more certain that we don't know.

01:15:01.240 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:15:13.160 Love.

01:15:14.340 Courage.

01:15:16.200 Truth.

01:15:18.020 Glenn Beck.

01:15:19.420 All right.

01:15:19.860 The Department of Homeland Security has begun processing applications again for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program,

01:15:28.100 a.k.a. DACA.

01:15:29.140 This is going to continue to operate long after a deal on the program is reached later this week.

01:15:36.280 Now, is this a surprise to anyone?

01:15:39.960 Shouldn't be because both Republicans and Democrats want DACA.

01:15:44.300 They always have.

01:15:45.240 And so does the president.

01:15:46.840 Trump, after all, has a big heart.

01:15:49.360 He has boasted about his big heart, you know, on several occasions.

01:15:53.240 Last year, he said, quote,

01:15:55.380 We are going to show great heart.

01:15:57.420 DACA is very, very difficult subject for me.

01:16:00.560 They are here illegally and they shouldn't be.

01:16:03.060 They shouldn't be very worried.

01:16:04.840 I do have a big heart.

01:16:06.380 We're going to take care of everybody.

01:16:08.120 End quote.

01:16:08.620 Trump may have also said that he would immediately terminate DACA, but that was so two years ago.

01:16:15.260 So I'm not sure which is which now.

01:16:18.960 DACA is dangerous to both political parties because they are legislating based on emotion when we should be legislating based on the Constitution.

01:16:30.220 It's not the children of illegal immigrants fault that they are here.

01:16:34.380 They are innocent, but their parents are not.

01:16:38.620 So what is the consequence?

01:16:41.180 Is there a consequence for breaking the law?

01:16:43.900 If not, do we have laws?

01:16:46.360 These are the conversations that we need to have when it comes down to it.

01:16:51.000 Make no mistake.

01:16:51.860 DACA is amnesty.

01:16:53.700 We'll have to make the decision to accept or reject amnesty.

01:16:59.460 Apparently, in Washington, they are telling us that the American people will accept it.

01:17:08.620 The U.S. Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii.

01:17:22.180 A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes.

01:17:25.820 This is not a drill.

01:17:27.580 If you are indoors, stay indoors.

01:17:30.480 If you are outdoors, seek immediate shelter in a building.

01:17:34.120 Remain indoors well away from windows.

01:17:36.540 If you are driving, pull safely to the side of the road and seek shelter in a building or lay on the floor.

01:17:42.200 We will announce when the threat has ended.

01:17:44.440 This is not a drill.

01:17:45.560 That had to have been absolutely terrifying.

01:17:53.400 That's what was heard this weekend in Hawaii.

01:17:56.680 There was an alert that cruise missiles were coming and they were nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.

01:18:05.200 Do something.

01:18:07.240 What?

01:18:08.040 Imagine the panic that you would have felt.

01:18:13.740 We have a couple of people that I want to talk to and just feel how they felt over the weekend.

01:18:22.580 The first one is Adnan Meziwala.

01:18:27.440 Adnan, welcome.

01:18:29.480 Good morning.

01:18:30.380 How are you?

01:18:30.880 I'm very good.

01:18:31.960 You were visiting the Hawaiian Islands.

01:18:35.140 Are you still there?

01:18:36.660 Yes, I am.

01:18:38.700 Okay.

01:18:39.220 You were there in the hotel room with your wife and your two-year-old.

01:18:44.700 Sorry, two-month-old.

01:18:45.860 Two-month-old.

01:18:46.620 Yep.

01:18:47.480 Along with my parents, yeah.

01:18:49.980 So tell me what happened.

01:18:51.360 What time was it and how did you find out and what was it like?

01:18:56.280 So I don't recall exactly what time it was.

01:18:59.320 I do know it was prior to checkout.

01:19:01.520 We were just getting things together.

01:19:03.340 We were about to, you know, utilize our additional time that we had to go down to the beach prior when we all of a sudden got a notification and picked up the phone.

01:19:12.860 Now, it went off on my phone and my father's phone, who was up in the room with us while we're getting one together.

01:19:18.940 And it just kind of throws off initially.

01:19:21.920 I don't really know how to react when you have a notification like this.

01:19:28.020 This is a very much very Cold War era kind of mentality where all of a sudden, you know, they're teaching kids to get under their desk.

01:19:36.720 So, of course, you know, in this modern era, it's not something that we're prepared for to start conceptualizing.

01:19:44.780 So, you know, initially I thought it was a mistake.

01:19:49.000 I thought it was nothing.

01:19:50.020 And then shortly afterwards, it kind of really dawned on me quickly that I can't take this lightly.

01:19:55.200 And so we quickly started putting on shoes, grabbing our essentials that we would need and preparing to run.

01:20:01.980 I took my two-month-old, put them in our stroller and also had a carrier with us just in case I had to take them up and go.

01:20:08.920 The hotel was very responsive.

01:20:11.080 We were staying at the Hyatt Regency, and they told us to kind of stay indoors and stay in our room.

01:20:15.580 But, you know, you're on the 36th floor, too.

01:20:17.800 And, you know, if a missile attack is happening, the last thing I want to do is be 36 floors above ground.

01:20:23.500 So, first of all, I'm trying to just, because I tried this weekend to picture in my own head,

01:20:31.300 the first thing that I would think of was, this is bogus.

01:20:35.040 This is not happening.

01:20:37.620 It's true.

01:20:38.360 It's true.

01:20:39.100 I mean, you know, today's era of technology, when I saw this notification, the first thing in my head is, this can't be true.

01:20:45.180 The second thing was, well, the U.S. has enough technology that if a missile was coming up,

01:20:49.280 I would assume that they'd be able to knock it off, knock it out in the air prior to even coming to land.

01:20:55.560 But then, I mean, you start playing the scenarios.

01:20:59.280 Okay, so wait, how long did you live in that world before you started to go into, wait a minute?

01:21:05.600 I think it took us all of about five to seven minutes, I would say, before I was just like, all right, nope, let's take a different route here.

01:21:18.160 And you could tell, like, as minutes would go by, there was just, I felt a little bit more uncertainty, a little more distraught, a little more panic to it,

01:21:28.920 to a point where I remember telling my parents in kind of a stern voice, like, you need to forget about your bags, grab your passports, grab your wallets, put your shoes on, we have to go.

01:21:40.820 So, you know, in a very stern voice, and it was just at that point that I realized, like, you know, this could be for real.

01:21:49.280 So, did you call or did you turn on the TV or the radio?

01:21:54.460 Did you at all think this is not, it's not that it's, you know, that it's not going to happen, that the missiles, but that it was a hack or it was a joke or it was something?

01:22:05.500 No, I mean, so, we definitely turn on the news kind of simultaneously.

01:22:11.680 I think in our political environment right now, these are real, real potentials, you know?

01:22:18.940 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:19.380 I would say, you know, we talk about hacking systems, whether it's a hack or not, you know, these are things that have been constantly been reported on,

01:22:31.040 whether North Korea will actually act, whether the U.S. will defend itself, to a point where we really need to start understanding the consequences of these conversations and what this is leading into.

01:22:46.340 I think, in general, people are going to take this scenario itself and start contemplating whether they need to do drills, whether they need to say, do I need to have preparedness at home?

01:22:57.500 So, just remembering the, you know, I'm too, too young to remember.

01:23:02.820 I wasn't alive during the Cold War era.

01:23:04.820 So, you know, thinking about just whole the Y2K scenario when the housing was coming out, how people were starting to prepare.

01:23:11.420 It really feels like something along those lines where people are going to be like, okay, well, we need stockpiled food.

01:23:16.660 What if this is going to be a real scenario?

01:23:18.380 I just can't fathom how this will play out in the long run.

01:23:25.700 You know, a mistake is a mistake.

01:23:27.080 That's fine.

01:23:27.820 But this also opens like a can of worm, you know, and we, as a general population, are going to start discussing this in a more serious tone.

01:23:37.120 So, Adnan Maziwala, he is in Hawaii.

01:23:40.760 He and his family were in Hawaii for a 40th anniversary of his parents' marriage, and the, you know, false missile alert went out.

01:23:51.340 Was there a time that you saw or anyone saw or anyone in your party started to panic at all, or was everybody pretty calm?

01:24:03.000 I think it was a more progressive kind of nature.

01:24:07.960 I think my wife definitely had, so I would say my dad initially, he reacted by, you know, quickly taking my son and putting him in a stroller and then putting him in the bathroom because that was the one place that didn't have windows.

01:24:21.500 It was furthest away from the windows.

01:24:23.620 My wife slowly started gathering essentials, things that my son would need.

01:24:29.140 And you could see in everyone's faces that as minutes would go by, the more anxiety would build up in terms of, you know, the reality of this warning.

01:24:43.800 You know, I think a lot of us were on the brink of, you know, emotional kind of hitting that limit where we felt like we were about to cry.

01:24:52.480 As soon as we found out this was a false event, we were just kind of like, wow, I can't believe this just happened.

01:25:00.440 What has changed in your mind or your life or your family?

01:25:06.700 Is anything, was anything clarified for you?

01:25:11.660 Nothing was clarified in the sense of, you know, this was a mistake in terms of the broadcasting system.

01:25:21.620 You know, things like this can happen.

01:25:25.060 There's a human factor in a lot of things.

01:25:27.640 I think what really kind of, you know, we're enjoying our vacation.

01:25:30.680 We've moved past this in terms of being able to continue to celebrate my parents' anniversary.

01:25:35.840 But what has really kind of become more of a reality is that we as, you know, U.S. citizens listening to conversations that are happening on the sideline, and we are bystanders in all of this.

01:25:52.920 And I think that's really come to become a more of a seriousness where, you know, no longer can we really accept these conversations that are happening regarding, you know, who has the bigger missile or who wants to be the first to act.

01:26:11.380 It's kind of more of a, we need a more peaceful society in general.

01:26:16.380 People shouldn't be living their lives in fear.

01:26:18.380 And I think that's what's kind of soaked in to us here as we move forward is that how do we come and reconcile and enjoy the moments we have, you know, through our lives without constantly being worried that something may happen.

01:26:34.020 Adnan, thank you very much.

01:26:36.360 God bless.

01:26:36.920 Thank you very much.

01:27:06.920 That's part of his emergency preparedness plan.

01:27:09.940 I received the alert on my cell phone, and I made my first decision immediately to return home instead of sheltering in place.

01:27:17.240 And on my way home, I contacted my wife, and we both arrived home at about the same time.

01:27:25.140 Did you both take it at face value when you heard it?

01:27:29.800 We certainly did.

01:27:31.800 We certainly did.

01:27:32.360 Both my wife and I are career military officers, so we take warnings and preparedness pretty seriously.

01:27:39.240 We received the alerts on our phones.

01:27:42.180 And it began to occur to me, though, as I was driving home, that we weren't seeing the other warning systems activate, such as the newly restarted warning sirens, and there was no broadcast interruptions on radio or TV.

01:27:54.420 And very shortly after we both got home, we both began to receive the messages via email announcing that the warning was called off, which was a false alarm.

01:28:05.280 And then nearly half an hour later, the cell phone message announced a false alarm as well.

01:28:09.360 So we just talked to somebody who was in, I think, the Hyatt on Oahu and is away from everything.

01:28:18.420 You are a guy who you sound prepared.

01:28:21.620 Were you this calm?

01:28:24.000 Were you going home to hunker down and you knew you could survive?

01:28:30.120 Well, we've had some pretty serious lessons learned, I think, in the last few months, especially in Puerto Rico, where we've seen what happened recently and have to acknowledge that we're going to have to take care of ourselves here.

01:28:43.540 And consequently, we're prepared to do so for up to 60 days, as recommended by the state of Hawaii.

01:28:49.760 At any point, did you think if this is real and it is and it's from North Korea, there's really no, you know, it's kind of like the duck and cover hide under your desk?

01:29:05.660 Well, uh-huh.

01:29:08.780 That's not going to fire.

01:29:09.900 That's not going to stop the fires of hell.

01:29:12.120 Was there any time that you were noodling this through going that this is not going to work?

01:29:18.020 Well, we certainly hope for the best, but we plan for the worst.

01:29:22.880 You're correct.

01:29:23.580 We don't have a lot of infrastructure here in place to do much more than to seek the best option possible to protect ourselves from an initial blast, the ensuing radiation.

01:29:34.640 And then, of course, the loss and denial of services across the spectrum, communications, power, water, everything that we take for granted is going to go away for a while.

01:29:43.800 And it could be quite some time.

01:29:45.460 So, yeah, it's a pretty scary thing to think about.

01:29:47.960 Fortunately, we have a plan.

01:29:50.060 Fortunately, we were able to execute that plan fairly easily.

01:29:54.140 We're very, very relieved, obviously, that this was not only a false alarm, but that no one was hurt here in those initial few minutes of responding.

01:30:02.920 That could have gone a lot worse.

01:30:04.220 Did you see any panic from anyone?

01:30:07.300 No.

01:30:07.880 As a matter of fact, I didn't.

01:30:08.900 It was a pretty quiet Saturday morning here in this residential town that's fairly far and away from the streets and hotels and high rises of Waikiki.

01:30:17.180 I did notice the folks that were driving with a little bit more sense of urgency.

01:30:23.060 But you, of course, kept to the speed limit.

01:30:26.780 Oh, absolutely.

01:30:27.540 Yeah, of course you did.

01:30:28.780 Of course you did.

01:30:30.220 All right, Tom, thanks so much.

01:30:32.260 And we're glad Hawaii is safe.

01:30:34.320 And, man, what a frightening Saturday morning you had.

01:30:39.800 God bless.

01:30:41.100 May we live in interesting times, Glenn.

01:30:43.120 Come visit us.

01:30:43.840 Yes, we do live in interesting times.

01:30:46.160 Thanks so much.

01:30:50.120 One of the most interesting things about the Hawaii thing from this weekend was that we've all played that game where if you had 30 minutes to live, what would you do with it?

01:30:59.080 And an entire state basically had to answer that question and attempt it on the fly.

01:31:02.840 And I wonder how many of them were happy with their decision.

01:31:06.900 And on the other side, someone like Tom, who's actually prepared, you don't think about it the same way.

01:31:12.200 If you're prepared.

01:31:12.920 You noticed that?

01:31:13.500 Yeah, that was really, I thought, interesting.

01:31:15.320 Yeah, he was just like, we just went home.

01:31:17.680 We knew what we were supposed to do and we executed it.

01:31:19.300 It's not the last half hour.

01:31:20.360 You go and you put a plan into place and you survive it, right?

01:31:22.900 Like, that's your plan.

01:31:23.840 It's a totally different way of thinking about it from, I think, most of the tourists that were there were just like, oh, wow, we're about to die.

01:31:28.920 We should hug each other really tight.

01:31:30.980 You know, I mean, I wonder how many, I wonder how many couples, you know, were like, we're going out.

01:31:38.460 Oh, yeah, you got to go for it at that point.

01:31:40.140 It's at least a good argument from the guy for once.

01:31:42.540 It's like, look, come on, half an hour.

01:31:45.040 And she says, I don't want to spend my last half an hour doing that.

01:31:48.580 Not with you.

01:31:50.700 All right.

01:31:51.360 Let's go down to the pool and see if I can find somebody interesting.

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01:33:28.320 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:33:39.660 Glenn Beck.

01:33:41.020 So I saw Steven Spielberg's The Post this weekend and really enjoyed it.

01:33:48.960 Thought it was really good.

01:33:50.760 I was a little worried because I'm interested in stories like that.

01:33:53.360 Yeah.

01:33:53.520 But I was a little worried it would be so annoying in our current context with the name of praising itself.

01:34:00.240 Well, I was really concerned, you know, there was I think I went because it was Spielberg and I thought if anybody's going to do this right at Spielberg and I thought there was actually.

01:34:12.620 I mean, I'm sure nobody in Hollywood or on the left pick this up, you know, they always write it themselves.

01:34:19.760 They write it and they produce it and they think about it.

01:34:23.000 And yet it doesn't ever seem to connect with them.

01:34:25.320 But at one point or several points, they talk about this has been going on forever.

01:34:31.280 This was Truman.

01:34:32.320 This was Eisenhower.

01:34:33.620 This was Jack.

01:34:35.700 And they start to realize at the end, one of the one of the big points is the press should not be friends with politicians.

01:34:44.700 You know, Jack was using them, keeping them close to bring them in on the inside so they wouldn't question these things and they wouldn't report those things.

01:34:55.800 Right.

01:34:56.400 And now with the press, it's very important that they're adversarial to the administration.

01:35:00.240 So that message connects, but it didn't connect when they had Barack Obama, Barack Obama and tons of media members going directly from the media into his administration and otherwise.

01:35:10.640 Exactly right.

01:35:11.180 It didn't didn't seem to connect it.

01:35:12.700 So I thought it was a I thought it was a really balanced telling of the story.

01:35:17.160 I didn't feel any kind of propaganda in it.

01:35:19.720 I thought it was a it's a it's a it's an interesting look, especially if you live during those times.

01:35:24.420 How much life has changed.

01:35:27.500 Glenn back.

01:35:29.420 Mercury.

01:35:30.240 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:35:40.960 So it's a good weekend for Stu.

01:35:42.720 Hawaii was almost vaporized.

01:35:44.980 I don't care about anything else.

01:35:47.420 People living in crap hole countries.

01:35:50.180 Yeah, I didn't.

01:35:51.120 I don't care about any of the news.

01:35:52.800 I only care about the Philadelphia Eagles.

01:35:54.480 We're still mysteriously and magically alive.

01:35:56.980 Yeah.

01:35:57.280 Pat Gray is joining us now.

01:35:58.620 So it was a you know, there I mean, there's there's no way they win this week.

01:36:03.220 There's no way they win.

01:36:04.400 I mean, I hold out hope.

01:36:06.540 Of course, they are the underdogs again.

01:36:08.540 Disappointed.

01:36:09.020 Don't hold.

01:36:09.340 What year were you born?

01:36:10.940 1976.

01:36:12.340 What year did they first go to the Super Bowl?

01:36:16.020 They went to the Super Bowl in 1981 and 2005 for 2004, 2005.

01:36:21.640 When did you start becoming an Eagles fan?

01:36:24.040 I don't know exactly.

01:36:25.940 This is all a mystery.

01:36:26.920 Really early.

01:36:27.680 This is all a mystery.

01:36:28.660 What I'm what I'm wondering is, is it possible you are that your fandom is the reason why

01:36:33.460 they don't win the Super Bowl?

01:36:36.820 Well, they didn't win anything for 16 years before my birth.

01:36:40.820 The last time they won the championship was 1960.

01:36:43.620 So they felt a disturbance in the force.

01:36:45.560 They felt they felt it coming.

01:36:46.760 Yeah.

01:36:46.940 Wow.

01:36:47.680 It's like a million voices cried out and then was suddenly silenced.

01:36:51.440 It's possible.

01:36:52.220 It seems unlikely.

01:36:53.420 Just from Stubergear's birth.

01:36:54.800 Yes.

01:36:55.300 Wow.

01:36:55.700 Yes.

01:36:56.220 All right.

01:36:56.800 Yeah.

01:36:57.200 It certainly hasn't helped them.

01:36:58.520 I'll tell you that.

01:36:59.160 Yeah.

01:36:59.640 Whatever that means.

01:37:00.960 So you're going to Minneapolis.

01:37:04.420 Very excited to take in.

01:37:06.360 I'm sorry.

01:37:06.600 What?

01:37:07.240 Very excited to take in Minneapolis in the winter.

01:37:09.660 It's a great location for a Super Bowl.

01:37:11.280 Yeah.

01:37:11.860 Was it like nine this weekend?

01:37:13.800 If it was nine.

01:37:14.800 The first day I checked as we were getting closer, you start looking at the temperatures

01:37:18.220 of these cities.

01:37:19.200 And Minneapolis, the first day I checked, it was minus four.

01:37:22.500 That's just the temperature to do.

01:37:23.820 Not the wind chill and all that other stuff that gets on top of that.

01:37:26.820 Yeah.

01:37:27.120 So I'm really.

01:37:27.980 I mean, they do seem to have days in the 30s.

01:37:30.120 But would you go if it were outdoors in Minneapolis?

01:37:33.520 Oh, yeah.

01:37:33.860 You'd still go.

01:37:34.760 You'd still go.

01:37:35.440 You suck it up.

01:37:36.100 I don't know how.

01:37:37.040 I just layer.

01:37:38.400 Oh, there's no way you suck it up.

01:37:40.480 Oh, I suck it up.

01:37:41.260 Four below zero.

01:37:42.600 This guy won't suck it up and go to.

01:37:44.860 And it's outside.

01:37:45.020 He won't go to Israel.

01:37:46.940 But he'll suck it up.

01:37:48.500 And yeah, I'd go to Israel if they had the Super Bowl there.

01:37:50.680 And then they start throwing that thing in Jerusalem and I'm there.

01:37:55.040 Maybe Trump will get that done, too.

01:37:56.500 Yeah, I'm fine with that.

01:37:58.320 But yeah, no.

01:37:59.020 I'd say the fighting Jews and the Palestinian Tigers really doesn't sound like.

01:38:04.580 No.

01:38:05.100 No.

01:38:05.520 It'd be a strange event.

01:38:06.480 I don't think there'd be real excitement for it in Jerusalem.

01:38:10.020 All right.

01:38:12.620 So, Pat, what is on your mind today?

01:38:13.980 I'm seeing some signs of some common sense being injected into the Me Too movement.

01:38:20.500 Have you guys been following the French women and their plea to have a little sanity?

01:38:26.300 Really?

01:38:26.720 Before you take away sex between men and women completely.

01:38:29.340 It's interesting that any kind of sensibility would come from France.

01:38:34.960 A hundred French women.

01:38:38.040 Well, it's about sex.

01:38:39.260 Yes, that's true.

01:38:40.240 Yes.

01:38:40.420 And they pride themselves on sexual liberation.

01:38:43.080 Yes.

01:38:43.280 And that was part of their point was that you're going to ruin sexual liberation here.

01:38:48.900 Men aren't going to be able to hit on women anymore.

01:38:50.800 And they, of course, are being beaten practically to death over this.

01:38:57.500 The final passages challenged the fight is it kind of sends the message that the challenge

01:39:06.860 ahead for France is that, you know, maybe maybe the seduction thing at work and the seduction

01:39:13.240 thing that they have going on in their society is going to have to stop.

01:39:16.760 And I don't think these women, Catherine Deneuve, do you remember her big French film actress?

01:39:21.640 She's the most probably noted person in this.

01:39:25.560 And it looks like they're getting a lot of pushback from the Me Too movement people.

01:39:30.820 But there is a difference.

01:39:32.160 It's like, who's the guy on, is it Netflix or Amazon that's getting so much heat right now?

01:39:36.320 Netflix season, sorry.

01:39:37.780 Yeah.

01:39:38.020 Tell that story.

01:39:38.760 So he is a, he's an actor on, he's a comedian, does the show Master of None on Netflix, which

01:39:44.640 is pretty funny.

01:39:45.600 Um, so the story was that a young woman, um, uh, is given the name Grace in the story comes

01:39:53.640 from some publication called Babe or something.

01:39:56.260 I've never even, I've never heard of it.

01:39:57.820 No, it's not demeaning.

01:39:58.600 Um, uh, but, uh, so, uh, so, uh, and Zari meets this woman at a party.

01:40:05.780 She's excited about it.

01:40:06.760 He's a, he's a celebrity.

01:40:08.300 Um, she, he initially brushes her off, but they find out that they have something in common

01:40:12.160 with photography and wind up talking.

01:40:13.840 Uh, he texts her when they get back to New York, asks if she wants to go out.

01:40:17.420 She's excited.

01:40:18.220 She spends a lot of time choosing her outfit, texting pictures of it to friends.

01:40:22.160 They have a glass of wine in his apartment.

01:40:24.200 Uh, they go through dinner.

01:40:25.560 Um, they rush through dinner at an expensive restaurant and they go back to his apartment.

01:40:29.520 Within minutes of returning, she was sitting on the kitchen counter and he was apparently

01:40:33.320 consensually performing a sex act on her.

01:40:36.100 Um, so, uh, you have that going on.

01:40:39.840 Um, then she, uh, decides he's like pressuring her to go further, right?

01:40:45.060 It seems like everything's consensual.

01:40:46.740 Uh, eventually she becomes overcome by her emotions at the way the night is going.

01:40:51.300 And she says, you guys are all the effing same and eventually leaves crying.

01:40:56.020 Okay.

01:40:56.460 Um, uh, wait, my gosh, wait, you've just done this on the kitchen counter.

01:41:03.840 Right.

01:41:04.540 And when he says, maybe we should retire, you know, to the boudoir, to the boudoir, you

01:41:10.800 people are all the same.

01:41:12.480 I wanted to do something different in the sink and then in the fireplace.

01:41:17.640 Okay.

01:41:18.040 All right.

01:41:18.620 Okay.

01:41:18.940 So it's an, it's an odd line, but she's drawn the line and she's leaving.

01:41:22.860 Right.

01:41:23.200 She decides to leave eventually.

01:41:24.660 Although she, uh, at one point says, yeah, you know, maybe we should take it a little

01:41:27.780 slower.

01:41:28.240 Comes back out.

01:41:28.880 They sit again.

01:41:29.720 Things get fired up again.

01:41:30.920 They go through the process again.

01:41:32.260 So there's a lot that goes on here and all of it seems consensual at the end.

01:41:36.120 She feels a little bit, I don't know, I guess like maybe guilty, um, and, and decides

01:41:41.840 to leave.

01:41:42.680 Um, now there's been an interesting pushback on this from the other side saying, wait a minute,

01:41:46.560 this just seems like kind of like a somewhat negative hookup experience, not sexual assault

01:41:52.620 as it's being presented.

01:41:53.980 Um, and this, the Atlantic has a big story about this from Caitlin Flanagan, right?

01:41:58.340 Uh, she writes, uh, was grace frozen, terrified, stuck?

01:42:01.380 No.

01:42:01.740 She tells that she wanted something from Ansari and she was trying to figure out how to get

01:42:05.240 it.

01:42:05.660 She wanted affection, kindness, attention.

01:42:08.240 Perhaps she hoped, uh, maybe even to become this famous man's girlfriend.

01:42:12.440 He wasn't interested.

01:42:13.580 What she felt afterwards rejected yet another time by yet another time.

01:42:16.560 Another man was regret.

01:42:18.480 And what she and the writer who told her story created was 3000 words of revenge porn together.

01:42:23.780 The two women may have destroyed Ansari's career, which now is the punishment for every

01:42:28.360 kind of male sexual misconduct from grotesque to disappoint disappointing.

01:42:32.560 That is unbelievable.

01:42:33.700 This is also, this is Franco's going through a similar situation.

01:42:36.460 So this is the kind of thing that the sexual revolution was all about.

01:42:40.300 Yeah.

01:42:40.820 Yeah.

01:42:41.020 This was about, Hey, I'm a woman and I can do whatever I want.

01:42:44.360 And, uh, you know, we're two consensual adults, yada, yada, yada.

01:42:49.500 No.

01:42:50.020 Now, if you go and you do whatever you want and maybe you're fighting in your own head,

01:42:56.100 I don't know if I should do this or not, but you do it.

01:42:59.280 What?

01:43:00.120 It's the guy's fault.

01:43:01.340 Do you have, do you have no self-will?

01:43:05.160 No agency.

01:43:05.700 There's no, no, no responsibility, none, all the responsibilities on the men here.

01:43:10.620 You have to at least express it.

01:43:12.360 They can't very, you have to express that, that this is, you know, something you don't

01:43:16.960 want to do.

01:43:17.400 If you don't want to do it, if, if anything happens after that point, it's the guy's fault

01:43:20.700 completely, but it has to be expressed.

01:43:22.580 The safe word is no.

01:43:24.880 No, the most damning of the accusations against James Franco is a lot like that.

01:43:30.280 He, uh, was involved in a relationship with, with a woman and they were out one night and

01:43:35.840 he asked her to perform a little movement on him.

01:43:38.860 And, uh, she said, no, they were in, I think they were in a car and she said, can't we do

01:43:44.680 this later?

01:43:45.100 And he said, no.

01:43:46.560 And he kind of nudged her.

01:43:47.400 And so she said, so I did it because I didn't want him to hate me.

01:43:51.260 Well, okay.

01:43:52.740 That is your, you just chose.

01:43:54.900 Right.

01:43:55.400 So did you hear a relationship to do that?

01:43:57.680 Did you hear about the other one that came out this weekend?

01:44:00.500 Which was Steven Seagal?

01:44:03.220 I knew he was being accused of something.

01:44:05.260 I don't know.

01:44:05.700 So they are rape.

01:44:07.100 I mean, it's some bad allegations of Steven Seagal and the LAPD is, is, is investigating.

01:44:13.340 Um, and some pretty important women are saying rape.

01:44:16.660 Um, however, there's one that is, she's my hero.

01:44:21.700 She's my absolute hero.

01:44:23.120 She said she was told by her agent that she was to meet Steven Seagal, like at nine 30 at

01:44:30.920 night in his hotel room.

01:44:32.620 And she was driving.

01:44:34.000 She's like, my agency is pimping me out.

01:44:37.260 They're pimping me out to this guy.

01:44:39.660 Wow.

01:44:40.040 Yeah.

01:44:40.720 And that is something that I have heard.

01:44:44.060 Uh, we've never talked about.

01:44:45.780 Um, I've talked to some people in the, in that world.

01:44:50.100 And, uh, that is something that happens, right?

01:44:53.320 Happens.

01:44:53.820 Yeah.

01:44:54.180 Okay.

01:44:54.780 So with Weinstein too.

01:44:56.020 Yeah.

01:44:56.420 So the agency was pimping her out.

01:44:58.880 She goes, she knocks on the door.

01:45:01.460 He's, you know, exposed.

01:45:03.300 And he says, come on in.

01:45:05.860 And she says, I don't think so.

01:45:08.760 And, uh, slams the door and leaves.

01:45:11.960 She said, so nothing happened.

01:45:13.860 But yeah, but nothing happened.

01:45:16.260 And if he would have tried to do something, I would have kicked his ass.

01:45:20.380 Now, hey, you wouldn't know because it was Steven Seagal, but good for her.

01:45:27.020 Yeah.

01:45:27.260 She knew who she was.

01:45:30.100 She knew her value.

01:45:32.100 That's the problem.

01:45:33.260 People don't know their value.

01:45:35.820 Yeah.

01:45:36.020 That's interesting.

01:45:36.740 And two things on this.

01:45:38.060 One, there's a, this isn't a contractual conversation.

01:45:41.560 This is a dance between a man and a woman.

01:45:43.560 And if you're not able to, if you're not able or willing to at least indicate that you

01:45:48.240 are not willing to go to the next step, there's not a checkbox of 12, here's the 12

01:45:52.320 things that I'd like to do today.

01:45:54.460 And, uh, please check off the ones you're comfortable with, but we're going to get there.

01:45:58.500 Well, we've talked about the bit that you did on wonderful world of stew a couple of

01:46:02.420 times where, you know, you got to have the, you got to have the couple sign in triplicate

01:46:06.920 and you've got to have a permission slip for every single act and every movement.

01:46:11.540 It's coming to that.

01:46:12.480 I mean, that is not outrageous anymore.

01:46:14.960 It is.

01:46:15.520 Uh, and the other thing is, remember when like, uh, I don't remember which president

01:46:19.680 of France it was had a fair, I mean, I guess they all seem to have affairs in France, right?

01:46:24.500 And conservatives were calling them out and saying, look at this, you know, these, uh,

01:46:28.920 the Frenchie French men having affairs everywhere.

01:46:31.220 And we were mocked by liberals who told us the only natural way that men and women react

01:46:37.700 at work is to have affairs with each other.

01:46:40.240 It happens all the time.

01:46:41.020 All these other countries are enlightened and they don't care.

01:46:43.320 They don't put, they don't hold their politicians to any standard.

01:46:45.780 Now we're told that there's can never be any contact.

01:46:48.300 You basically can't even talk to a woman or your job's going to be destroyed.

01:46:51.760 Yeah.

01:46:52.140 So here's the bad thing.

01:46:53.520 If this doesn't turn around, if this, if the French are right and it starts to kill that

01:46:57.760 relationship, the free market will produce what you want.

01:47:03.560 Sex robots.

01:47:05.160 Yes.

01:47:05.720 Yes.

01:47:06.720 Yeah.

01:47:07.160 Will you will stop that action between men and women?

01:47:10.880 You will certainly single men and women when these robots become real.

01:47:15.800 Yeah.

01:47:16.100 I mean, and then that leads you to the consciousness of ASI and they'll kill us all if we're using

01:47:26.140 them as sex receptacles.

01:47:29.720 They'll kill us all when they were, when they gain consciousness, if they ever do.

01:47:35.260 But we, in 30 years, are you telling me that you couldn't see us as a society that just

01:47:42.280 has the scientists, you know, make our baby, I'm going to gene splice, I'm going to have

01:47:48.200 a perfect child, you know, kind of the Gattaca kind of thing to where you're gene spliced and

01:47:53.680 I'm going to do that and we're going to have a baby, but not that way.

01:47:56.900 I'm, I'm hooking up with this device.

01:48:00.760 That's what happens.

01:48:01.980 The device apparently never has a headache, is never not in the mood, right?

01:48:07.140 You don't have to worry about any of those things.

01:48:08.520 You don't have to worry about cuddling afterwards.

01:48:10.640 No.

01:48:10.940 Yeah.

01:48:11.440 It could really change things.

01:48:12.900 And you don't have to worry about if she's faking it.

01:48:14.260 She is.

01:48:15.100 She's faking it.

01:48:16.160 Yes.

01:48:16.720 She's fake.

01:48:17.740 So yes, she's faking it.

01:48:21.400 Thanks, man.

01:48:24.160 Well, with Glenn Beckett always ends with AI is going to kill us because we've abused our

01:48:28.300 sex robots.

01:48:28.960 That's the way the conversation typically ends these days.

01:48:31.980 Um, I don't know.

01:48:32.740 Maybe Pat will get it better than a, is that better than a bullet?

01:48:34.960 They know it's into the bullet in the head.

01:48:36.140 I think the sex robot one is superior.

01:48:38.280 Uh, I don't know.

01:48:39.020 Pat, maybe Pat will get into that today on Pat Gray Unleashed on the blaze radio and TV

01:48:43.160 networks.

01:48:43.520 Also on iTunes where you can get the podcast.

01:48:45.420 Did you hear Ansari's statement, by the way, Aziz Ansari, his response to this?

01:48:48.760 Listen to this.

01:48:49.640 Uh, in September of last year, I met a woman at a party.

01:48:51.840 We exchanged numbers.

01:48:53.060 We texted back and forth and eventually went on a date.

01:48:55.020 We went out to dinner and afterwards we ended up engaging in sexual activity, which by all indications

01:48:59.720 was completely consensual.

01:49:01.200 The next day, I got a text from her saying that although, quote, it may have seemed okay,

01:49:07.020 end quote, upon further reflection, she felt uncomfortable.

01:49:10.200 It was true that everything, everything did seem okay to me.

01:49:13.600 So when I heard that it was not the case for her, I was surprised and concerned.

01:49:17.580 I took her words to heart and responded privately after taking the time to process what she

01:49:21.020 had said.

01:49:21.660 I continue to support the movement and all that is happening in her culture.

01:49:24.480 It is necessary and long overdue.

01:49:26.100 I mean, it's like, how do you know, you never know when, if you can change your mind after

01:49:32.640 the effect, after the fact and then say, well, you just pushed me.

01:49:36.520 Well, no, I, I thought it was consensual.

01:49:39.300 Well, it seemed fine at the time, but I've changed my mind.

01:49:41.820 Yeah, that's, that's insane.

01:49:43.520 You can't retroactively make your mind up like that.

01:49:46.100 That's, it's unfair.

01:49:47.580 But in today's world, yes, you can, yes, you can, yes, you can.

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01:51:36.560 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

01:51:50.560 Glenn Beck.

01:51:52.200 So we're talking about how, uh, you can't retroactively after a sexual encounter say that you didn't like it when you said you liked it in the moment or you were, it was consensual in the moment.

01:52:00.820 That doesn't, it doesn't become, you can say that, but it's ridiculous though.

01:52:05.480 You can, you know, you can say, oh, that was great.

01:52:07.180 And then the next day go.

01:52:08.620 Right.

01:52:09.120 But it's not, you can't say it's non-consensual.

01:52:11.280 Correct.

01:52:11.860 Retroactively.

01:52:12.400 Correct.

01:52:12.700 Denise writes in on Twitter at world of stew.

01:52:14.880 Uh, that retrospect is called your conscience.

01:52:18.680 It's telling you that you should not have done that.

01:52:20.360 Millennials don't understand that concept.

01:52:22.000 They just immediately blame someone else for feeling bad and regret.

01:52:26.680 That's true and, uh, scary.

01:52:30.820 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 15, 2018

1⧸15⧸18 - 'Don't Let Hate Win' (Bishop Omar Jahwar joins Glenn)

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