The Glenn Beck Program - 1⧸17⧸18 - 'Upgrade Your Mind' (William Hertling & Robert Harris join Glenn)

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00:00:18.040 Well, to receive Medicaid now in Kentucky, if you're able, you're going to have to work for it.

00:00:25.120 Oh my gosh. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

00:00:28.520 I'm not sick enough. I mean, I can work.

00:00:34.240 And they're forcing me to work for Medicaid?

00:00:39.460 Yes.

00:00:41.260 Kentucky now is the first state to require that all able-bodied, able-bodied Medicaid recipients are going to have to work to keep their benefits.

00:00:50.980 Opponents of helping people help themselves are getting ready to sue now.

00:00:55.980 The Republican governor, Matt Bevin, received federal permission last week to implement the work requirement.

00:01:02.700 Now, other states have tried this before.

00:01:05.300 You know, they tried to get permission from the Obama administration.

00:01:08.900 We're denied.

00:01:09.880 So, the cruel, heartless Republicans are at it again.

00:01:17.460 So, what does it entail?

00:01:19.260 Well, starting this July, if you're not disabled, if you're able to work, you have to work a minimum of 20 hours to receive Medicaid coverage.

00:01:32.500 The work requirement is broad.

00:01:35.380 It could be volunteer work.

00:01:37.160 It could be job training.

00:01:38.820 It could be taking classes, caring for the disabled, even searching for a job.

00:01:45.080 There are also exemptions for the requirement.

00:01:48.440 People with medical conditions, full-time students, etc., etc.

00:01:51.860 Governor Bevin said that of the 350 Kentuckians that are receiving Medicaid, they're already working.

00:02:02.260 People will also have to earn dental and vision benefits through things like working toward a GED or taking a financial planning course.

00:02:11.260 Oh, my gosh.

00:02:14.080 What?

00:02:14.920 You have to better yourself in some way or another?

00:02:20.740 You have to volunteer your time and help other people just so you can get free help?

00:02:27.460 What kind of monsters are we?

00:02:31.720 It will soon become the standard and the norm in the United States of America, said Governor Bevin, and America will be better for it.

00:02:39.880 Amen.

00:02:40.140 Man, critics are already pouncing, saying this plan will seriously harm people and that it violates Medicaid law.

00:02:49.640 So what?

00:02:50.460 They would prefer people stay unemployed and on government assistance?

00:02:54.620 You'd prefer people to not have a reason to live?

00:03:01.440 I mean, if you were so sick you can't work, I get it, and we're here for you.

00:03:05.480 But if you can work, yeah, I'm sorry.

00:03:11.060 Get your ass up and volunteer at least.

00:03:16.660 Another politician had something to say about that.

00:03:19.420 We must make national principle that we will not tolerate a large army of unemployed.

00:03:25.840 That we will arrange our national economy to end our present unemployment as soon as we can and then take the wise measures against its return.

00:03:37.020 I do not want to think that this is the destiny of America to remain permanently on relief rolls.

00:03:45.460 Jeez.

00:03:46.700 What a jerk.

00:03:48.040 Was that Reagan?

00:03:48.480 That was Reagan one.

00:03:49.340 Was that Trump or Reagan?

00:03:50.400 Oh, no, it was FDR, the hero of the left.

00:03:57.340 Apparently not even the godfather of American nanny state himself wanted people to be permanently on government relief.

00:04:06.600 Look how far we have fallen.

00:04:09.760 Why do Americans seem to value the best ideas in all areas of life except for the government?

00:04:16.420 Maybe because in politics we're too concerned with who gets the credit and who has control.

00:04:27.320 Matt Bevin, Kentucky, good for you.

00:04:31.320 We'll be seeing and watching this experiment to see if it works.

00:04:36.060 It's Wednesday, January 17th.

00:04:47.240 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:04:49.280 So the president had a series of tests done on him yesterday and his doctor said he is as strong as an ox.

00:05:01.100 Now, this is not the crazy.

00:05:02.560 Remember that doctor they had on that was like, I think you're a movie doctor.

00:05:06.980 You're like, you're like the doctor.

00:05:09.360 What's his face from back to the future?

00:05:11.260 I would like a real doctor, please.

00:05:14.200 Oh, yeah.

00:05:14.440 This is during the campaign.

00:05:15.340 You mean?

00:05:15.680 Yeah.

00:05:15.840 And they were like, yeah, he's super mega healthy.

00:05:17.960 You're like, yeah, mega.

00:05:19.380 Did you use the word mega as a physician?

00:05:21.300 It was that type of thing?

00:05:22.600 Yeah.

00:05:22.820 I mean, I know you were in Columbia, but he just looked crazy.

00:05:28.100 And then they talked to him and he didn't really examine him.

00:05:31.280 And he was using strange words.

00:05:34.580 He was using Trump words.

00:05:35.660 It looked like Trump gave him the script to write.

00:05:38.160 Yeah.

00:05:38.640 And no one, I don't think, really believed he wasn't healthy.

00:05:42.060 But there was speculation in the media for sure that.

00:05:45.040 I wanted the doctor question, not because I didn't think Trump was healthy.

00:05:49.000 I just thought he was nuts.

00:05:50.460 Right.

00:05:51.040 You know what I mean?

00:05:52.160 So yesterday, the president's results, his test results were released to the press.

00:05:59.420 And first, let's talk about his physical health.

00:06:03.020 Here's what his doctor said.

00:06:04.400 Explain to me how a guy who eats McDonald's and fried chicks and all those Diet Cokes and

00:06:11.000 who never exercises is in as good a shape as you say he's in.

00:06:14.360 It's called genetics. 0.70

00:06:15.600 I don't know.

00:06:16.680 It's some people have, you know, just great genes.

00:06:19.060 You know, I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years,

00:06:22.740 he might live to be 200 years old.

00:06:23.980 I don't know.

00:06:24.380 So, I mean, he has incredible genes, I just assume.

00:06:29.680 I mean, you know, if I didn't watch what I ate, I wouldn't have the cardiac and overall

00:06:36.960 health that he has.

00:06:38.340 So, he is in good physical health.

00:06:41.580 And you've got to believe that Donald Trump loves the gene talk.

00:06:44.960 Oh, yeah.

00:06:45.580 This is his game.

00:06:46.400 Yeah.

00:06:46.660 He's big on that.

00:06:48.000 Yeah, he's big on the racehorse theory that, you know, hey, we breed racehorses, you know,

00:06:52.660 kind of a 1910, you know, progressive eugenics kind of thing.

00:06:57.920 He is all in and so is the whole family.

00:07:00.540 I love the, how can a guy eat McDonald's and be healthy?

00:07:05.220 You can be, you could actually, it's, you know what?

00:07:07.540 Almost everyone in America eats McDonald's at times.

00:07:09.880 You can be healthy.

00:07:11.400 You can, it's funny, the same people that are like, well, yes, I put butter in my coffee,

00:07:15.800 but how can this man eat McDonald's?

00:07:18.940 Well, of course, nine stacks of avocado toast are completely fine along with coconut butter,

00:07:24.660 but how dare he have a piece of chicken?

00:07:27.280 And who doesn't understand the genetics thing?

00:07:29.500 That there are people that can smoke, drink, and eat sticks of butter and live to 120.

00:07:35.120 Is it a good idea?

00:07:36.180 No.

00:07:36.720 Does it hurt your percentage chance to live longer?

00:07:40.680 Yes, that does not mean that eating these things, especially if you eat them without

00:07:45.240 a ridiculous amount, that doesn't mean that you're going to be unhealthy at all.

00:07:49.540 You can, and then the diet, they have to throw the, how could he have all these Diet Cokes?

00:07:52.980 I don't know.

00:07:53.900 Maybe him eating zero calorie beverages is the reason he can have McDonald's.

00:07:57.760 Is that possible?

00:08:00.320 Brainiac?

00:08:01.020 I hate that stuff.

00:08:02.140 But he did pass the test and did pretty well.

00:08:05.620 I think you could look at him and say, wow, you know, he, he, I would hope I would be this

00:08:10.660 I would hope that I would be as healthy as he is.

00:08:13.860 Yeah.

00:08:14.200 When I'm at his age.

00:08:15.320 Or now.

00:08:16.120 Or now.

00:08:16.800 I would take it now.

00:08:17.960 I'd take it five years ago.

00:08:21.740 You're retroactively trying to match a 73 year old's health.

00:08:25.820 That's good.

00:08:26.480 I don't have the genetic predisposition to long life.

00:08:33.760 That's not good.

00:08:34.760 No.

00:08:35.060 The other thing was, by the way, we also found out today, apparently Sanjay Gupta, who is

00:08:41.020 a, you know, you might think of him as a TV doctor, but they wanted him to be, you know,

00:08:45.000 a high role in, in, in, I can't remember, was it attorney general?

00:08:48.600 No, it was a, no, it was a surgeon general for the Obama administration.

00:08:52.780 He was their first choice and he didn't want to be turning it down.

00:08:55.940 Apparently he was saying, if you look at the numbers, that guy's got heart disease.

00:09:00.040 I'm just like, wait a minute.

00:09:01.000 His doctor didn't say he had heart disease, but Sanjay looking at the numbers has been

00:09:05.300 able to take the code and suck out heart disease from these numbers, apparently. 0.82

00:09:09.720 So we'll get more on that as, uh, as that develops.

00:09:11.860 How old is he?

00:09:12.340 72?

00:09:13.900 72?

00:09:14.300 73?

00:09:14.780 73?

00:09:15.320 Yeah.

00:09:16.100 I mean, if you're 73, you know, and you're living like Donald Trump, you know, I think you

00:09:23.120 kind of, you're kind of like, you know, a little heart disease isn't bad for me.

00:09:27.380 I think, yeah.

00:09:28.620 I mean, I'm 70, 73, 75 years old.

00:09:31.980 I'm thinking, oh, I've only got a little heart disease.

00:09:35.000 That's pretty good.

00:09:36.080 Exactly.

00:09:36.560 I mean, you think the guy has been able to do whatever he wants for how many years?

00:09:41.960 He owns a lot of the best restaurants in America.

00:09:44.180 I mean, he never exercises.

00:09:47.340 Doesn't exercise.

00:09:48.140 He's my hero.

00:09:49.500 He never exercises.

00:09:52.100 He eats whatever he wants.

00:09:54.720 And he's four pounds heavier than he was a year ago.

00:10:01.240 Yeah.

00:10:01.940 God bless him.

00:10:03.160 Especially going into that job.

00:10:04.660 I mean, I would put on 60 in a week.

00:10:06.920 We would have to have suit makers on constant standby.

00:10:11.220 You just, at some point, you just start building them with like release flaps.

00:10:15.220 Oh, yeah.

00:10:15.740 Where you can just expand the size.

00:10:17.440 Just staple them.

00:10:17.880 Staple the sides together because you're going to need the extra material later.

00:10:21.900 Make it for someone who weighs 600 and I'll grow into it.

00:10:24.340 That's right.

00:10:24.940 I promise.

00:10:25.820 That's right.

00:10:27.060 But the other big thing about this was people wanted him to take a cognitive test.

00:10:31.860 Yes.

00:10:33.080 And, you know, to test his brain.

00:10:35.200 Because everyone thinks in the media, apparently, that he just is mentally unfit to be president.

00:10:40.520 Now, mentally unfit to be president is completely different than, I don't like his policies.

00:10:45.000 I don't like his character.

00:10:46.700 I don't like his demeanor.

00:10:48.520 Like, those are all things that the media obviously doesn't like.

00:10:51.520 But it's completely different than whether he is mentally capable of thinking, you know,

00:10:58.600 thinking in a normal human way.

00:11:00.720 I think there are times that he's mentally lazy.

00:11:03.800 Intentionally.

00:11:04.480 He just hasn't thought things through.

00:11:05.980 He just hasn't, it's just, you know, I think he has changed from the personality that if

00:11:12.360 you go back and look at the videotapes in the 1980s and 90s.

00:11:15.400 But I don't think that's a, I don't think that's a decline in his mental health.

00:11:19.840 I think that's just a, you know, I just, I haven't thought about it in a while.

00:11:23.200 And I'm, you know, I'm 73 years old.

00:11:26.020 Right.

00:11:26.240 I'm a little lazy on that.

00:11:27.380 But that's, none of that stuff would be, you would be able to detect in a mental test.

00:11:31.240 So he took a mental test for the first time ever, apparently.

00:11:35.520 No president has ever had to take one of these tests before.

00:11:38.360 And it wasn't because the doctor was like, well, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm unsure of this

00:11:42.640 guy.

00:11:42.860 Apparently Trump wanted it done so he could prove that he was okay.

00:11:45.920 Well, you should be, we have people around you going, I don't know, the 25th amendment,

00:11:48.800 we could get him out of here.

00:11:49.920 I'm taking a mental test.

00:11:50.960 Yeah.

00:11:51.160 Why not?

00:11:51.500 Let's prove that, you know, and that's obviously a ridiculous media narrative, right?

00:11:56.620 You know, the idea that he is incapable of thinking like a normal human being is completely

00:12:02.040 absurd, right?

00:12:03.520 We do have the test or an example of the test.

00:12:06.620 Yeah.

00:12:06.840 So we thought, because, you know, when you're given a mental test, I don't know, president

00:12:12.340 passed it.

00:12:12.980 Could, could you pass it?

00:12:14.860 We'll give you the, the, the mental test they gave the president in a minute.

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00:14:26.140 Glenn Beck, mercury.

00:14:28.620 Glenn Beck.

00:14:37.880 So the president passed his, uh, his mental agility test and, uh, you know, he's the, they

00:14:44.600 can't use the 25th amendment against him, uh, because he's passed a, um, you know, a sanity

00:14:50.000 test or a, uh, a mental agility test.

00:14:53.540 I will tell you, um, I have had, uh, these tests, uh, before I've had it at Columbia and

00:15:00.700 I had it at the Mayo clinic because for a while I was, uh, I was testing, uh, like I

00:15:07.620 had severe concussions, uh, and they couldn't figure out what was going on.

00:15:12.800 And, um, we were afraid that maybe I was going into early Alzheimer's or something.

00:15:18.420 Uh, and so I had these tests and they're kind of spooky in a way.

00:15:23.400 I mean, they're, they're tough.

00:15:25.640 Uh, and, uh, you know, Stu won't let me see the paper now.

00:15:30.940 So I'm a little nervous about, call me doctor, please.

00:15:33.920 Well, no, I'm the doctor.

00:15:35.020 Call me Dr. Stu.

00:15:36.000 Okay.

00:15:36.400 For today.

00:15:36.920 Okay.

00:15:37.280 Dr. Stu.

00:15:38.060 Uh, because I, you're right.

00:15:39.240 I won't let you see it in advance.

00:15:40.620 Obviously that would, that would not give us the results we're looking for.

00:15:43.640 I will say this, looking at this test, it is not a test of let's do a deep dive and

00:15:49.860 search to see if there's anything wrong with your thought process.

00:15:53.840 It's more of a test that you would give someone if you highly suspect they have dementia or

00:16:00.440 they just had a stroke and you want to be able to check whether they're be able to complete

00:16:06.620 basic human thought, right?

00:16:09.200 Like this, it's not a, it's not a type of test that, you know, you're going to read

00:16:13.080 into and be like, oh my gosh, you know, it's, it doesn't say.

00:16:16.040 Do you have the whole test?

00:16:16.980 Because the whole test, at least the one I took, took at least an hour.

00:16:20.120 Yeah.

00:16:20.220 This is one page and we can do it quickly.

00:16:22.320 Okay.

00:16:22.840 It's a basic test though.

00:16:24.180 Like if some, if you know, your uncle has a stroke, they're at the hospital, is there

00:16:27.680 major problems with his, with his brain?

00:16:30.000 All right.

00:16:30.300 Okay.

00:16:30.480 Here's a cognitive test.

00:16:31.800 You go through it quickly.

00:16:32.580 This shows you can do basic processes.

00:16:33.940 Okay.

00:16:34.300 You want to start here?

00:16:34.820 Do you have a pen over there?

00:16:35.660 Yeah.

00:16:35.980 Yes, I do.

00:16:36.500 Let's start with the first part.

00:16:36.980 The first part is there's three visual tests that won't work particularly well on radio,

00:16:41.940 but we'll explain them.

00:16:42.800 There is a, a, a bunch of numbers and letters for the test, for the first test.

00:16:48.200 And it, and it gives you the beginning of a path.

00:16:51.280 For example, the number one, there's a line drawn to A. Then there's a line drawn to two.

00:16:56.600 You know, you have to complete the pattern.

00:16:58.020 And then a line drawn to B, I would imagine.

00:17:00.680 Oh, that's a good, yeah.

00:17:01.440 Why don't I just give you the answers?

00:17:02.680 Oh, okay.

00:17:03.140 One, two.

00:17:03.500 Okay.

00:17:03.740 So he's going down to B.

00:17:05.220 Uh, then B would go to three. 0.98

00:17:08.180 And then that would go to C. 0.97

00:17:09.440 Three to C.

00:17:10.080 And then it would go to four.

00:17:11.160 Four.

00:17:11.560 And then it would go to D.

00:17:12.200 E.

00:17:12.360 And then it would go to five.

00:17:13.420 And then it would go to E.

00:17:14.160 Okay, let me, let me see.

00:17:15.160 This is not a real.

00:17:15.940 The next one.

00:17:16.580 It is.

00:17:16.960 This is the test.

00:17:17.560 It's a Montreal cognitive test.

00:17:18.880 Okay.

00:17:19.020 Now there's another one that says for, um, Glenn to draw, um, copy a box.

00:17:26.240 I'm sorry, but this is, this is, this is not, this is not an invasive test.

00:17:32.680 What it is, is the Montreal cognitive assessment, which is the exact thing he took.

00:17:38.920 Uh, and don't, I mean, you can rush through all you want.

00:17:41.880 I don't know if you're trying to prove something.

00:17:43.800 Uh, no, it's just easy.

00:17:45.440 Okay.

00:17:45.880 Glenn, it's easy for Glenn.

00:17:47.480 Okay.

00:17:48.060 All right.

00:17:48.420 Now we have his, uh, so there's three, uh, tests here and we're going to, we'll be posting

00:17:52.960 the results here, uh, online.

00:17:55.580 Um, how much time do we have, Sarah?

00:17:56.820 Should we go through the next couple of questions?

00:17:58.880 Okay.

00:17:59.220 Did I get those right, doctor?

00:18:00.860 I will grade you at the end.

00:18:02.620 Okay.

00:18:03.040 All right.

00:18:03.520 Thank you for calling me doctor.

00:18:04.680 Here's the next thing.

00:18:05.600 I want you to look at these pictures.

00:18:06.700 I will tell you that I just, I didn't even read the directions.

00:18:10.140 They're so easy.

00:18:11.080 If I have any wrong, it's because I didn't read the directions.

00:18:14.320 Wow.

00:18:14.880 President Trump was able to actually read the directions.

00:18:17.180 I know.

00:18:17.420 Well, okay.

00:18:17.900 I'll read the directions.

00:18:19.220 Okay.

00:18:19.500 I'm going to show you a picture.

00:18:20.500 I would like you to tell me what that picture is.

00:18:22.100 Okay.

00:18:22.540 What is that?

00:18:23.060 That's a lion.

00:18:24.120 A lion is the, is the answer.

00:18:25.940 Uh, we can write that down.

00:18:26.920 We can get that to my physician's assistant.

00:18:28.640 The first answer was a lion.

00:18:30.480 Next one.

00:18:31.000 What is the, I'm showing you a picture.

00:18:32.300 What is this picture?

00:18:33.220 That is a rhino.

00:18:34.420 A rhino.

00:18:35.300 Rhino.

00:18:35.920 Rhino.

00:18:36.580 And finally, I'm showing you this picture.

00:18:38.240 That is a ostrich, a zebra, a camel, a camel, a camel.

00:18:41.420 I'll, this is, I, trust me, this is not.

00:18:45.960 Okay.

00:18:46.540 Lion.

00:18:47.180 Just writing down your answers.

00:18:48.600 Rhino.

00:18:49.300 Yeah.

00:18:50.520 And a camel.

00:18:52.200 Okay.

00:18:52.520 Next up.

00:18:53.300 Are you ready?

00:18:53.880 I'm ready.

00:18:54.800 Uh, I am going to, uh, read a list of words.

00:18:59.380 Oh boy.

00:19:00.120 You must repeat them.

00:19:02.400 Okay.

00:19:03.040 Do I have to wait for a while and then repeat them or just repeat the word you just said?

00:19:07.140 You're, you're going to, I'm going to read all five words.

00:19:09.060 So you're going to repeat them in that order.

00:19:10.520 All right.

00:19:10.940 Are you ready?

00:19:11.440 Okay.

00:19:11.600 Yes.

00:19:12.520 Face.

00:19:13.840 Velvet.

00:19:15.080 Church.

00:19:16.620 Daisy.

00:19:17.780 Red.

00:19:18.980 Faith.

00:19:20.520 Velvet.

00:19:24.400 Uh, Daisy.

00:19:28.000 Church.

00:19:28.540 I'm bad at these.

00:19:30.440 Okay.

00:19:30.900 We're going to try it one more time.

00:19:32.940 Uh, here is the, uh, five words.

00:19:35.760 Repeat them in this order.

00:19:36.960 Mm-hmm.

00:19:37.140 Face.

00:19:38.680 Velvet.

00:19:39.920 Church.

00:19:41.360 Daisy.

00:19:42.540 Red.

00:19:44.280 Face.

00:19:45.480 Velvet.

00:19:46.880 Daisy.

00:19:47.920 Uh, church.

00:19:49.160 Daisy.

00:19:50.880 I can't remember.

00:19:52.760 Okay.

00:19:54.420 Uh, if Premier's listening, we're going to need a new host.

00:19:56.340 You're going to need a new host.

00:19:57.140 We're going to need a new host.

00:19:57.600 I am, this is, I mean, I, I was, I've gone through more difficult tests than this.

00:20:02.480 Mm-hmm.

00:20:02.680 I have a, I have a difficult time with some of them.

00:20:05.680 Mm-hmm.

00:20:05.880 I have a difficult time with some of them.

00:20:07.320 Mm-hmm.

00:20:07.500 This is, it's, uh, we are learning things.

00:20:09.800 Yes, we are.

00:20:10.420 So far, we've learned many things.

00:20:11.620 In my studies of your tests so far, I've learned many things.

00:20:13.280 When you see the lion is actually a chicken, we're, you'll see how troubled, how troubled

00:20:19.020 we really are.

00:20:20.200 Back in just a second.

00:20:25.140 Glenn.

00:20:26.020 Back.

00:20:27.140 Mercury.

00:20:27.500 Mercury.

00:20:27.620 Mercury.

00:20:27.680 Mercury.

00:20:27.740 Mercury.

00:20:27.940 Mercury.

00:20:28.000 Mercury.

00:20:28.500 Mercury.

00:20:28.560 Mercury.

00:20:29.620 Mercury.

00:20:32.680 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:40.300 I'm under, I'm under a great deal of stress now.

00:20:43.860 Welcome to the Dr. Stu Program, 1-800-DR-IS-T-U.

00:20:47.500 That's not enough numbers.

00:20:49.860 We're giving Glenn the cognitive test that the president passed with flying colors yesterday.

00:20:54.580 Yeah.

00:20:55.020 And we're, we're learning some interesting things as we go through this.

00:20:58.260 Well, now he said, telling me that like there's, there's certain grades for like how well the

00:21:04.100 clock is drawn and stuff.

00:21:05.880 I just, I just, I made a clock face quickly and just, okay, that's a, here's a picture

00:21:10.920 of a, of a more detailed clock.

00:21:13.440 Here's a grandfather clock.

00:21:14.920 Does that help?

00:21:15.700 There is a, there's an interesting section in the instructions about people who make excuses

00:21:19.560 for their incorrect answers that we can get into a little bit later.

00:21:23.780 All right.

00:21:23.940 Okay.

00:21:24.300 Uh, we are now in the next, uh, section.

00:21:26.700 Next section.

00:21:27.280 And, uh, here is the distance.

00:21:28.820 By the way, the, to the president passed this was flying colors.

00:21:31.460 Flying colors.

00:21:31.800 I'm still, uh, in jeopardy here.

00:21:34.000 Um, we're going to, I'm going to read you a list of digits.

00:21:36.940 Digits.

00:21:37.540 You need to repeat them in forward order.

00:21:40.760 Okay.

00:21:42.240 Two.

00:21:42.920 Wait, what do you mean in forward order?

00:21:44.500 The way you just gave it.

00:21:45.560 The way I'm going to give them to you.

00:21:46.580 All right.

00:21:47.260 Two.

00:21:47.700 Two.

00:21:48.740 No.

00:21:49.200 All right.

00:21:49.420 When I'm done with all five of them.

00:21:51.440 Okay.

00:21:51.600 Okay.

00:21:51.980 You will then repeat the five.

00:21:53.440 Are you ready?

00:21:54.060 Yeah.

00:21:54.520 Two.

00:21:54.980 Somebody write these down.

00:21:55.840 Two.

00:21:56.200 No, no, you can't write them down.

00:21:57.640 You need to just say.

00:21:58.400 All right.

00:21:58.740 Go ahead.

00:21:59.160 Two.

00:21:59.540 Two.

00:22:00.120 I'm sorry.

00:22:00.700 Go ahead.

00:22:01.540 I got the first.

00:22:02.240 I am about to subtract some points.

00:22:03.800 All right.

00:22:04.020 Go ahead.

00:22:05.280 Listen to the five numbers.

00:22:06.440 Yes.

00:22:06.960 Two.

00:22:07.820 One.

00:22:08.660 Eight.

00:22:09.540 Five.

00:22:10.340 Four.

00:22:11.820 Two.

00:22:12.600 One.

00:22:13.200 Eight.

00:22:13.880 Five.

00:22:14.380 Four.

00:22:14.760 But I would like to say that it is, it is, uh, five.

00:22:19.200 Two.

00:22:20.000 One.

00:22:20.700 Eight.

00:22:21.060 Five.

00:22:21.340 Four.

00:22:22.740 Because you said five.

00:22:24.160 Several times before.

00:22:25.200 I did say.

00:22:26.020 You said five.

00:22:26.400 I said two many times because you kept interrupting me.

00:22:29.200 And two, two, two. 0.59

00:22:30.060 Five, five, five.

00:22:31.260 It's actually five, two.

00:22:32.560 Five, two, five, two.

00:22:33.860 Sir, we can remove you from office if you want to be silly.

00:22:35.920 All right.

00:22:35.980 Okay, go ahead.

00:22:36.480 Okay, there's a silliness clause in this test.

00:22:39.000 All right.

00:22:39.360 Okay.

00:22:39.700 I would like you to repeat these numbers in backward order.

00:22:43.360 In backward.

00:22:44.260 Put your pen down, sir.

00:22:45.380 All right.

00:22:45.540 I'm just finishing the clock face.

00:22:47.280 Put your pen down.

00:22:48.060 You've already failed the clock.

00:22:49.220 Well, we'll see how you did the clock.

00:22:50.840 All right.

00:22:51.480 Repeat these in backward order.

00:22:53.180 Backward order.

00:22:53.920 Seven.

00:22:55.880 Sorry.

00:22:56.880 Seven.

00:22:57.760 Four.

00:22:58.420 Two.

00:22:58.720 There are three numbers I just gave you.

00:23:00.060 Two.

00:23:00.440 Four.

00:23:00.780 Seven.

00:23:01.200 That is correct.

00:23:01.860 We'll be getting the full test results here in just a moment.

00:23:05.420 Yeah.

00:23:05.640 See, this is not like a real test.

00:23:07.440 Is this really the one they gave the president?

00:23:09.160 This is the Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

00:23:11.260 And yes, this is the test.

00:23:12.000 I will tell you I've had this before, and here's how they usually go.

00:23:14.800 I'm going to give you five numbers.

00:23:16.620 Okay?

00:23:17.740 Let me give them to you here, Stu.

00:23:19.000 Let's see if I can do this with you.

00:23:22.760 He is stalling to get out of it.

00:23:24.000 But yes, I'm getting that from my physician assistant here in the other room.

00:23:26.980 Seven, 14, 21, 8, 3.

00:23:32.800 Sam.

00:23:34.180 Wait.

00:23:35.220 You didn't tell me what we were doing.

00:23:36.880 I'm saying.

00:23:37.360 I'm going to give you five numbers.

00:23:38.380 You repeat them back.

00:23:38.800 Go ahead.

00:23:39.320 Okay.

00:23:39.820 Seven, 14, 21, 8, 3.

00:23:43.460 Seven, 14, 21, 8, 3.

00:23:45.240 Okay.

00:23:45.460 Well, it's easy because of the multiple.

00:23:46.740 Anyway.

00:23:48.200 So you say the test designer has a problem?

00:23:50.420 Yeah.

00:23:50.900 That's the issue here?

00:23:51.740 He's a little insane.

00:23:52.500 Okay.

00:23:52.900 Hang on.

00:23:53.380 I'm going to give you some more.

00:23:55.460 I'm trying to delay so we don't get to the end of the test.

00:24:02.780 Five numbers.

00:24:03.700 Ready?

00:24:04.540 Five, three, 17, 40, 9.

00:24:09.320 Five, three, 17, 40, 9.

00:24:11.760 Give me the first five numbers that I gave you.

00:24:15.500 Seven, 14, 21, 8, 3.

00:24:18.260 Okay.

00:24:18.860 So the real tests, they keep doing this.

00:24:21.480 They just keep adding five numbers.

00:24:24.380 And they'll give you five numbers, five numbers, five numbers, five numbers.

00:24:27.580 What were the first five numbers?

00:24:28.500 And you're like, oh, impossible.

00:24:30.040 I don't know.

00:24:31.020 What?

00:24:31.940 And again, that is an interesting distinction here between the test.

00:24:35.420 The one you're talking about is let's do an incredibly deep dive to see if we can find

00:24:40.320 any hint of anything that's at the very beginning stages.

00:24:44.200 What this is, is you just had a massive stroke.

00:24:47.520 Can you do the basics?

00:24:48.540 So this is that's what the president like you just you just in this test, they had the

00:24:52.440 president draw a three dimensional box.

00:24:54.640 Okay.

00:24:55.700 In the test that I have seen, they'll show you something like this where you're seeing

00:25:00.700 like a rectangle, circle, square, like a little antenna thing coming off the end.

00:25:05.960 And then it comes up and it juts out and they don't make any sense.

00:25:09.980 And you and they show it to you for like five or 10 seconds.

00:25:12.980 Say, remember this.

00:25:15.160 They put it away.

00:25:17.240 Now draw it.

00:25:18.360 Right.

00:25:18.880 And you have much more.

00:25:20.180 I mean, and there's because it's very intricate and there's no rhyme or reason to why it's

00:25:24.780 built that way.

00:25:25.860 And Sarah, you would say this is a delay to try to get to the end of the test.

00:25:29.940 Absolutely.

00:25:30.600 Okay.

00:25:30.780 Thank you.

00:25:31.100 All right.

00:25:31.420 Okay.

00:25:31.700 I would like you to clap your hands.

00:25:34.580 Okay.

00:25:34.980 Thank you.

00:25:35.400 Now with the here's.

00:25:36.580 Okay.

00:25:36.980 There you go.

00:25:37.660 Now I'm going to read a list of letters.

00:25:39.740 Please say stop.

00:25:40.640 Please stop clapping your hands.

00:25:41.940 Now, every time I say the letter A, I would like you to clap.

00:25:46.200 Okay.

00:25:46.840 Okay.

00:25:47.180 That's it.

00:25:47.840 That had an A in it.

00:25:49.260 No.

00:25:49.740 I'm going to give you a list of letters.

00:25:51.000 When I say the letter A.

00:25:53.160 Got it.

00:25:53.700 You should clap.

00:25:54.500 Ready?

00:25:55.460 F.

00:25:55.740 Clap had an A.

00:25:56.380 B.

00:25:57.440 A.

00:25:58.300 C.

00:25:59.400 M.

00:26:01.100 Go ahead.

00:26:01.760 N.

00:26:02.640 N.

00:26:03.080 A.

00:26:03.680 A.

00:26:04.160 A.

00:26:04.640 A.

00:26:05.180 J.

00:26:05.780 J.

00:26:06.220 K.

00:26:06.840 Now these.

00:26:07.840 I mean, is this the letter?

00:26:09.360 L.

00:26:09.420 B.

00:26:10.080 A.

00:26:10.740 Yeah.

00:26:11.180 F.

00:26:11.620 Because they sound like it.

00:26:12.640 A.

00:26:13.320 K.

00:26:13.920 Yeah.

00:26:14.360 D.

00:26:14.940 D.

00:26:15.420 E.

00:26:15.940 E.

00:26:16.380 A.

00:26:17.340 A.

00:26:17.980 A.

00:26:18.420 A.

00:26:18.980 A.

00:26:19.380 J.

00:26:20.300 A.

00:26:21.220 M.

00:26:21.800 This is harder than you thought, right?

00:26:23.020 Okay.

00:26:23.400 Okay.

00:26:23.700 All right.

00:26:24.120 Well, because the K and the J, you know, if it's not the letter, it does have J-A-Y.

00:26:30.060 So it has an A in it.

00:26:31.280 I'm just saying.

00:26:32.100 Now the next question, you specifically warned me not to give you any math questions.

00:26:36.920 Yeah.

00:26:37.160 Which is not something you can ask the doctor.

00:26:39.480 You can't say, look, anything but blood tests.

00:26:41.700 You can't do that.

00:26:42.980 Yeah.

00:26:43.220 I didn't ask the doctor to not.

00:26:45.520 I'm going to give you a number.

00:26:47.200 A number.

00:26:47.820 I would like you to subtract seven from that number.

00:26:52.500 Seven.

00:26:53.100 Okay.

00:26:54.000 14.

00:26:56.140 I haven't started yet.

00:26:57.440 All right.

00:26:57.660 The number is 21.

00:27:00.640 No.

00:27:01.000 I haven't started yet, so you can't.

00:27:03.020 Seven.

00:27:03.660 No.

00:27:05.340 Seven.

00:27:05.980 Six.

00:27:06.380 Five.

00:27:06.540 Four.

00:27:06.660 Three.

00:27:06.860 Two.

00:27:07.240 One.

00:27:07.520 I think we locked you off after this.

00:27:09.180 All right.

00:27:09.400 Go ahead.

00:27:09.760 Okay.

00:27:10.000 Here we go.

00:27:10.440 100.

00:27:11.640 100.

00:27:12.520 Subtract seven.

00:27:13.940 93.

00:27:14.840 Subtract seven from that.

00:27:16.580 It would be 93, 92, 91.

00:27:21.040 You can use your fingers.

00:27:22.180 Can you really?

00:27:23.300 It doesn't say you can't.

00:27:26.120 Oh.

00:27:27.160 93.

00:27:28.180 92, 91.

00:27:29.480 90.

00:27:30.840 98.

00:27:32.960 No, this wouldn't be right.

00:27:34.920 89.

00:27:36.020 See.

00:27:36.500 88.

00:27:37.060 The best thing is.

00:27:37.920 80, 87, which would be wrong.

00:27:41.560 See, in the test materials, there's no point where it recommends that the doctor harass the

00:27:47.380 patient to try to pressure him into incorrect answers, but that is what I'm doing.

00:27:51.200 71.

00:27:52.740 Okay.

00:27:52.980 None of that's right.

00:27:54.960 All right.

00:27:55.200 I'm going to say I'm 20.

00:27:55.780 We're going to move on.

00:27:57.200 Repeat this sentence.

00:27:58.460 12.

00:27:59.780 I only know that John is the one to help today.

00:28:04.300 I only know that John is the one to help today, but the trick is repeat this sentence

00:28:09.700 because that's what you just said.

00:28:11.120 So, it's a trick question.

00:28:13.300 Oh, okay.

00:28:13.960 Here's another one I'm going to give you and I'd like you to repeat it.

00:28:16.680 Here it goes.

00:28:18.280 The cat always hid under the couch when dogs were in the room.

00:28:24.380 Here goes.

00:28:25.280 The cat always hid under the couch when dogs were in the room.

00:28:35.380 Let's see.

00:28:36.580 29.

00:28:40.480 I don't even understand that question.

00:28:41.920 Okay.

00:28:42.100 Let me ask you this one.

00:28:42.740 We're looking for a similarity here, for example, but a banana and an orange, a similarity would

00:28:50.580 be they are both round fruit.

00:28:55.140 Yes.

00:28:55.420 Okay.

00:28:55.980 Okay.

00:28:56.180 Yeah.

00:28:56.540 Okay.

00:28:57.320 Colorful.

00:28:58.140 Similarities between trains and bicycles.

00:29:02.140 Both have wheels.

00:29:04.140 Okay.

00:29:05.960 Of course, obviously not true.

00:29:08.020 Yeah.

00:29:09.120 Trains have wheels.

00:29:10.260 Okay.

00:29:10.380 Bikes have wheels.

00:29:13.060 I'm not here to judge you, sir, except for when I'm reading your test.

00:29:15.940 All right.

00:29:15.960 Both are made out of metal.

00:29:17.020 Okay.

00:29:17.960 Watch and a ruler.

00:29:20.260 Watch and a ruler.

00:29:24.040 What's the similarity there?

00:29:25.220 I'm trying to think of something that isn't, that just doesn't work.

00:29:30.940 They both have numbers.

00:29:33.060 Okay.

00:29:33.640 They're both measurement.

00:29:35.120 Don't try to justify.

00:29:37.300 They're both round.

00:29:38.900 Okay.

00:29:40.380 Now, I earlier on gave you five words.

00:29:44.780 Oh, you get one of these, are you?

00:29:48.940 It is that.

00:29:49.700 It is in here.

00:29:52.560 Do.

00:29:53.220 Yeah.

00:29:53.780 It was face, velvet.

00:29:59.200 All I can think of is cake.

00:30:00.460 And I know that's not a word, but it's got velvet in it.

00:30:02.420 So, I think it automatically of cake.

00:30:05.960 Face, velvet.

00:30:09.140 I don't remember.

00:30:11.340 Okay.

00:30:13.740 And, all right.

00:30:15.620 And then, what?

00:30:17.020 Well, I'm not going to give you the date, month, year, all that stuff.

00:30:19.320 Yeah.

00:30:19.560 You know where you are.

00:30:22.060 Date.

00:30:22.660 Do not ask me that.

00:30:23.720 I really don't know the date.

00:30:25.060 I don't know it either.

00:30:26.240 I don't know the date.

00:30:27.320 The 18th of?

00:30:29.080 It's Wednesday, January 17th.

00:30:30.960 Thank you.

00:30:31.840 That's why we have it at the beginning of every show.

00:30:34.160 Okay.

00:30:34.640 It's Wednesday, January 17th.

00:30:36.840 What year?

00:30:37.880 2018.

00:30:39.000 What's today?

00:30:39.880 What's the day?

00:30:40.140 Wouldn't it be great Wednesday?

00:30:41.420 Wouldn't it be great if it was, if one of the real legitimate questions is who's president?

00:30:46.500 And you'd be like, me.

00:30:48.280 I just, I looked in the mirror.

00:30:49.820 What place are you in?

00:30:51.940 Chair.

00:30:53.060 Studio.

00:30:53.640 Los Clenis.

00:30:54.160 Texas.

00:30:54.480 What city?

00:30:54.880 Earth.

00:30:55.600 Okay.

00:30:56.040 City.

00:30:56.500 You got that.

00:30:57.260 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:59.100 Yes, that's true.

00:30:59.860 Thank you, sir.

00:31:00.360 Okay, got it.

00:31:00.760 Okay, so I, we will take a break, and I will go through and grade this for you.

00:31:05.700 Could you kick me off the show?

00:31:07.140 Is there the 25th Amendment that you could just kick me right off the?

00:31:12.080 This has been a giant ruse to make you take this test and see if you are mentally fit

00:31:17.660 to do this program?

00:31:18.880 I will tell you, that is, with the exception of one of the last questions of, oh, and what

00:31:24.640 were those five words?

00:31:26.300 That was not.

00:31:27.940 Not hard, right?

00:31:28.780 Yeah, not hard.

00:31:29.780 Not hard.

00:31:30.620 I mean, you could easily screw one of them up.

00:31:34.140 You could easily have a problem here or there.

00:31:35.900 Now, Trump did very well on it, you know, but again, he also knew if he got anything wrong,

00:31:41.860 it would be a major news story.

00:31:43.060 So he may be focused a little bit more than you.

00:31:45.360 However, we can make it a major news story, too.

00:31:47.280 No, I don't think so.

00:31:48.540 I mean, I think, you know, I think somebody questioning your mental agility is, you know,

00:31:54.600 if you're taking it seriously, that's a lot of pressure.

00:31:58.920 Okay, well, we'll hold you to the same standards then.

00:32:00.580 I was going to give you a break, but we'll be happy to hold you to the same standards

00:32:03.480 as the president.

00:32:04.540 I think that's fair.

00:32:05.040 No, I don't.

00:32:05.620 I'm going to go through just a little grading here, and you do the commercial.

00:32:08.640 If you can get through it.

00:32:14.900 Face.

00:32:16.920 Velvet cake.

00:32:19.060 Orange.

00:32:22.940 Trapdoor.

00:32:23.540 Is this the commercial, or are you?

00:32:25.060 I'm just trying to remember what those words were.

00:32:26.860 Oh, I got it.

00:32:27.280 Okay.

00:32:28.080 Last year, the head of FEMA, Brock Long, told the media, he wants everybody to understand

00:32:33.360 this.

00:32:33.740 We ain't coming.

00:32:34.780 It's actually not exactly what he said, but pretty much.

00:32:37.900 FEMA is broke.

00:32:38.900 The system is broken.

00:32:39.800 And there's a new normal that Americans, that mean Americans can't rely on the federal

00:32:44.640 government to be the first responder in case of trouble.

00:32:48.840 Okay.

00:32:49.320 So in other words, we ain't coming.

00:32:52.360 This is the head of FEMA. 0.81

00:32:54.080 And he said it right before Christmas, so nobody would really pay attention.

00:32:56.780 But I'm telling you, did you see what happened in Japan yesterday?

00:33:01.960 In Japan yesterday.

00:33:03.540 Do you know what happened, Stu?

00:33:04.440 Yeah.

00:33:04.720 The fake, or another false warning of a missile attack?

00:33:07.840 Yeah.

00:33:08.420 That's a little weird.

00:33:09.440 Japan is saying, we don't know what happened.

00:33:12.080 Uh-huh.

00:33:13.320 I think I do.

00:33:14.220 In fact, we're going to address it on television tonight.

00:33:16.260 I think we better start paying attention because, you know, some chaotic times are right

00:33:24.860 around the corner.

00:33:26.360 That's why I trust my Patriot Supply.

00:33:28.400 They are the leaders when it comes to food storage.

00:33:31.080 Do you hear the panic?

00:33:31.960 We had the guy on, I think, Monday, one of the guys who was like, you know, we just kind

00:33:36.840 of hid.

00:33:37.180 We didn't know what to do.

00:33:37.940 And then we had another person that was in Hawaii that lived there and had prepared and,

00:33:46.540 you know, could live for 60 days.

00:33:48.620 And he said, he just called my wife and said, get home. 0.98

00:33:51.360 And we got home and we were fine.

00:33:54.300 We knew we would be okay.

00:33:56.540 That comes from being prepared.

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00:34:31.740 Glenn Beck.

00:34:47.200 Okay.

00:34:48.040 Dr. Stu program, 1-800-DR-STU.

00:34:50.280 No, you're not a doctor and there's not enough numbers in that.

00:34:53.260 But you've given me the test that the president received, which is a fairly simple test.

00:34:59.160 Fairly simple.

00:34:59.760 Fairly simple test.

00:35:00.320 Difficult to do in pressure, maybe in front of a national audience, but still not.

00:35:03.140 No, I thought I was pretty good.

00:35:05.660 Okay.

00:35:06.020 I thought I was pretty good.

00:35:06.960 So, here's your grading.

00:35:07.760 Yeah, okay, yeah.

00:35:08.560 Their first, you had three drawing questions.

00:35:10.460 Yeah.

00:35:10.660 Your first one was drawing from letters to numbers.

00:35:13.420 You executed that properly with the exception of some of your lines were sloppy, but I did

00:35:17.300 not take any points away from that.

00:35:18.380 Oh, well, thank you.

00:35:18.820 You got one point there.

00:35:19.980 Copy the cube.

00:35:20.920 Here's what you can do.

00:35:22.520 One point is allocated for correctly executed drawing.

00:35:26.500 Drawing must be three-dimensional.

00:35:27.640 Check.

00:35:27.940 You're right.

00:35:28.740 No line is added.

00:35:29.820 Correct.

00:35:30.660 All lines are drawn.

00:35:32.200 Oh, no.

00:35:33.300 You left out one of the back lines, making you lose that point.

00:35:37.380 Drawing a clock.

00:35:38.840 There are three categories for the points you get there.

00:35:41.880 One is contour.

00:35:42.680 Is it a circle?

00:35:43.680 I got to be news.

00:35:44.520 I got a lot of...

00:35:45.660 I was very friendly to you, and I gave you, okay, it will kind of look like a circle,

00:35:50.380 really more oval, but I'll give you that one.

00:35:53.380 Numbers.

00:35:54.560 Here's the category.

00:35:55.720 It says, all clock numbers must be present with no additional numbers.

00:35:58.440 I thought this was about what time was it, not the clock.

00:36:00.500 You only wrote two numbers, and they're not even close to the right numbers in the right

00:36:06.140 places.

00:36:06.600 So, I did not give you that.

00:36:07.480 Yeah, right.

00:36:09.520 Next up, hands.

00:36:11.120 Yeah.

00:36:11.560 The hour hand must clearly be shorter than the minute hand, and as you see on your paper...

00:36:16.800 No, it's not.

00:36:17.340 No, it's not.

00:36:18.180 You wrote them the exact same length, so again, you do not get that point.

00:36:20.900 Because you know.

00:36:22.580 I gave you two and a half points on that.

00:36:25.280 Somehow.

00:36:25.880 You're lucky, because I gave you a half point for the contour, which was not a circle.

00:36:29.920 Just a circle.

00:36:30.680 Next up, you said this was a lion.

00:36:32.240 You are correct.

00:36:32.660 It is a lion.

00:36:33.560 Right here.

00:36:33.820 Next up, you said it was a rhino.

00:36:35.220 Actually, it is a rhinoceros.

00:36:36.740 Yes.

00:36:37.180 Oh.

00:36:37.420 So, I gave you two and a half points, because you got camel right as well.

00:36:42.680 Cake.

00:36:43.000 Next up, the words.

00:36:45.120 Velvet cake.

00:36:45.560 Velvet cake.

00:36:46.400 Yes.

00:36:47.400 Now, the first time I asked you the questions to repeat the words, you did not need to get

00:36:50.380 them right, because it was all about the recall one.

00:36:53.540 Then, I gave you the digits.

00:36:54.960 You got two out of two there.

00:36:56.240 I gave you the letters.

00:36:57.320 You got one out of one there.

00:36:58.800 The subtraction, you got one point.

00:37:01.020 Somehow, they gave you a point for your first weird answer, and then you just thought it

00:37:04.060 would be funny.

00:37:04.760 No.

00:37:04.860 And you know what?

00:37:05.260 People who think they're funny.

00:37:06.440 No, I'm telling you, I will have that answer for you in about 10 minutes.

00:37:09.920 Going through the hole, you got two points at the very end for your face and velvet, which

00:37:14.360 I was actually impressed by.

00:37:15.880 Your final score, on my admittedly very difficult grading system, gave you a 20.5 on the scale

00:37:23.080 of 1 to 30.

00:37:23.780 The president scored a 30.

00:37:27.000 It says, here's the last line of this.

00:37:28.420 It says, to be normal, you just need to get a 26.

00:37:30.360 So, you should be fine.

00:37:37.700 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:37:49.140 Love.

00:37:50.300 Courage.

00:37:52.080 Truth.

00:37:52.440 Glenn Beck.

00:37:55.320 Last weekend, Hawaii.

00:37:56.780 Yesterday, Japan.

00:37:58.140 Flash message rang across all cell phones yesterday in Japan.

00:38:03.160 NHK news alert.

00:38:05.080 North Korea likely to have launched a missile.

00:38:08.320 The government J alert, which is Japanese version of EAS, evacuate inside building or underground.

00:38:16.080 Okay.

00:38:17.760 Can you imagine?

00:38:18.660 Can you imagine living?

00:38:20.740 Living with those things and not knowing if they're real or not.

00:38:25.080 Took the state of Hawaii almost 40 minutes to issue the false alarm.

00:38:29.260 It took the Japanese five minutes.

00:38:31.480 But that makes two nuclear weapon false alarms within the Pacific theater in just a matter

00:38:36.740 of days.

00:38:38.180 So, what's going on?

00:38:40.900 Well, we happen to have some audio of what we think the problem was in Japan.

00:38:46.680 Listen.

00:38:46.840 Don't push this button because that will set off the bomb immediately and we'll all be dead.

00:38:54.380 Now, repeat back what I just said.

00:38:57.240 I am Groot.

00:38:58.220 Uh-huh.

00:38:58.980 I am Groot.

00:39:00.120 That's right.

00:39:01.160 I am Groot.

00:39:01.860 No!

00:39:02.760 No, that's the button that will kill everyone.

00:39:04.600 So, that's what we think happened.

00:39:06.780 We're really not sure.

00:39:08.120 A little tip for the Japanese. 1.00

00:39:09.480 Baby Groot, probably not the best employee to have pushing the emergency alert buttons.

00:39:13.520 After seeing the computer interface in the Hawaiian system, you know, it's not surprising

00:39:19.600 that this mistake happened.

00:39:21.380 I mean, it looks, honestly, it looks like an old Apple II computer.

00:39:24.700 It does.

00:39:25.260 And Hawaii, 1981 called.

00:39:28.420 They want their technology back.

00:39:29.960 But what happened in Japan?

00:39:32.560 What caused that false alarm?

00:39:34.920 They don't know.

00:39:36.020 The Japanese government hasn't stated yet.

00:39:38.880 They say they don't know yet.

00:39:41.440 If they do, they aren't telling anyone.

00:39:44.660 Here's what bothers me.

00:39:46.460 We really need to get a full and detailed explanation from both incidents because speculation

00:39:54.040 is running wild, and you can't blame people for filling in holes when information is scarce,

00:40:01.420 especially at a time when nuclear war seems more likely now than it has been since the

00:40:06.600 Cold War.

00:40:07.240 But it's not the people and panic that I worry about.

00:40:11.160 It is, if these continue to happen, will you believe them when they are real?

00:40:17.060 God forbid.

00:40:18.500 Also, the next war is going to be fought with ones and zeros, not bombs.

00:40:23.120 Are we being hacked?

00:40:25.760 The latest fake alert came simultaneously as Japan, along with 19 other countries, were

00:40:32.560 meeting in Canada to talk about, wait for it, escalating the pressure on North Korea over

00:40:38.900 its nuclear program.

00:40:40.740 Now, I don't know whether it's faulty, out-of-date technology, if somebody just had butterfingers

00:40:48.820 like they did in Hawaii, or if Kim Jong-un has weaponized Baby Groot.

00:40:54.360 I don't know.

00:40:56.040 But there's a problem here.

00:40:58.320 Nuclear weapons are no longer the modern-day first strike cyber warfare is.

00:41:03.780 This is hopefully not what has caused these false alarms, but we all have, we should all have

00:41:11.480 that creeping thought about how these things are now all too possible in this day and age.

00:41:16.360 Science fiction becomes reality between now and the next 10 years.

00:41:20.380 We better stay ahead of the curve, because a brave new world approaches.

00:41:26.720 It's Wednesday, January 17th.

00:41:38.480 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:40.340 We had William Hurtling on yesterday, and I wanted to have him back on today to kind of

00:41:47.680 finish the conversation.

00:41:48.800 He's written a series of four books called The Singularity Series.

00:41:53.120 He also has his latest book, The Kill Process.

00:41:56.660 But the four in the series of The Singularity is a really good explanation and a good view

00:42:06.600 in an entertaining way to get a handle on the kinds of things that we are going to be facing.

00:42:12.940 Yesterday, we were just talking about the technology that is on the very near horizon in the next

00:42:18.780 few years and how that could affect us all the way from, you know, self-driving cars to

00:42:26.500 personal assistants that know you really well.

00:42:29.760 Today, we want to look into what's just around the corner in maybe 15 years.

00:42:36.600 We're closer to what we're going to talk about today than we are to September 11th.

00:42:45.740 We are closer to things that we only thought were science fiction than we were to the things

00:42:54.180 that we grew up with just in the last 20 years.

00:42:58.820 So William Hurtling is joining us again.

00:43:02.060 Hello, William.

00:43:02.600 How are you, sir?

00:43:03.900 I'm great.

00:43:04.620 Thanks for having me back.

00:43:05.700 Good.

00:43:06.600 Yesterday, we started talking about what's coming 2030, 2035, and that is the merging of

00:43:14.860 man and machine and the upgrade of the human mind and the connection to the web.

00:43:25.320 Can you kind of go into that and how real this is?

00:43:28.660 Sure.

00:43:29.660 So we were talking about neural implants.

00:43:34.920 And, you know, I know you've talked, you've had Ray Kurzweil on a lot.

00:43:39.580 He likes to talk about the exponential trends in technology.

00:43:42.500 Yeah.

00:43:42.920 And I do the same thing.

00:43:44.560 I have these spreadsheets that I look at technology.

00:43:48.280 I look at various attributes.

00:43:49.460 How fast is my connection to the Internet?

00:43:52.200 How fast is my processor?

00:43:53.960 How much storage do I have?

00:43:55.100 How big is my computer?

00:43:56.120 And when you look at these trends, one of the things that you see is that computers are

00:44:00.920 getting very, very small indeed.

00:44:03.740 And that means that we're on the horizon of the technology, everything that would fit in

00:44:11.460 a computer, fitting inside your brain and having the kind of direct neural connections that would

00:44:18.280 allow it to be fully integrated with your brain.

00:44:20.460 And there's research happening today to do this, to work with people who are paralyzed,

00:44:27.760 who have no motor control because they've lost the connection between the brain and their body.

00:44:32.420 So that's being restored.

00:44:33.780 So there's some great medical benefits that are driving this kind of research, as well as

00:44:39.520 just the need for our ability to get information in and out of our head or our ability to augment

00:44:46.740 our intellect.

00:44:47.620 So let me go a couple of places with you.

00:44:50.460 I have I have read that we are just a couple of years away from making the neural connection

00:44:56.220 to like a bionic arm.

00:44:58.540 So you're much more like the six million dollar man, if you will, if you were my age and remember

00:45:03.080 that, that that you you control it exactly the way you control your hand now.

00:45:11.240 Are we that close to that?

00:45:14.160 We are.

00:45:15.060 I mean, a great example is the cochlear implant, which is the correct deafness in people who

00:45:22.520 have a defective portion of the hearing system.

00:45:26.220 I don't understand exactly which part.

00:45:28.180 But this is an implant that connects into the auditory nerves that replaces the function of

00:45:33.860 the ear.

00:45:34.220 And what happens when they implant one of these is when it's first turned on, people don't

00:45:41.660 really hear anything.

00:45:43.180 And then over a matter of days, their brain starts to integrate the signals from this

00:45:49.000 implant and their hearing gets better and better.

00:45:52.720 And then it becomes crisp.

00:45:54.100 And then it becomes maybe not back 100 percent to normal, but good enough for day to day life.

00:45:59.440 And it's just an example of how adaptable the brain is to be able to interface with these

00:46:05.440 external tools.

00:46:08.480 So I know there's a I know there's a guy who's a scientist now and a guy who makes prosthetic

00:46:14.320 limbs.

00:46:16.180 He was a mountain climber and fell, didn't have use of his legs anymore, had his legs removed,

00:46:25.200 in fact, and was told, you know, you'll never do anything again.

00:46:29.420 He went back to school and decided, yeah, I'm going to walk again.

00:46:32.540 And he went to MIT and he started studying and he started to make his own artificial legs.

00:46:40.920 He is now a better mountain climber than he was before because of these artificial legs.

00:46:49.360 We're getting to a point to where in the maybe perhaps in the next 10 years,

00:46:54.820 your artificial limb will be so much better than your actual limb that we'll have to decide

00:47:03.060 whether doctors can remove a perfectly good limb to replace it.

00:47:08.460 Do you believe that?

00:47:12.920 It's I have a little bit of a hard time imagining whether or not we'll remove perfectly good limbs,

00:47:19.820 but I can certainly imagine that we're going to add on technology where it doesn't require moving

00:47:25.880 anything, right?

00:47:26.800 So if I could get an implant and I could be smarter or happier than I am today,

00:47:32.020 I'm almost certainly going to do it, right?

00:47:34.440 I'm not going to give anything up.

00:47:36.180 And that leads to a very interesting sort of reaction because what happens when you want

00:47:41.660 to send your kids to school and all of the other kids have neural implants, they're all smarter.

00:47:48.220 And now your kid, if you, you know, have an objection to this technology,

00:47:53.140 your kid's behind everybody else.

00:47:55.240 So is anybody going to do that?

00:47:56.880 What if you're looking for a job and you want to go into the workplace and everyone else has a

00:48:00.260 neural implant so they're smarter?

00:48:02.220 You know, is there pressure now for you to get a neural implant?

00:48:05.420 So that's a really interesting place to me.

00:48:08.240 So I asked Ray Kurzweil that question and he said, no, everybody will get one because

00:48:13.940 they'll be cheap.

00:48:14.620 And I said, but what about people who don't want to get one?

00:48:17.820 And he looked at me almost confused and said, why wouldn't you want one?

00:48:21.860 And I said, well, because there will be people who say, I want to be natural.

00:48:25.040 I want to be, I want to be authentic.

00:48:27.340 I don't want to be connected to all of that all of the time.

00:48:31.540 And he, he really didn't see that happening, which was odd.

00:48:37.240 I thought, uh, and he said, well, it won't cause a problem anyway.

00:48:42.240 And if you, if you really think this through over time, if augmenting the human brain is

00:48:50.560 really effective, you will not be able to function in society, um, as non augmented.

00:48:59.180 And I, I don't see how, uh, not being augmented at some point doesn't become child abuse.

00:49:06.780 Um, you know, doesn't, uh, you know, people, people would do not want you driving on the

00:49:12.700 road when there's a bunch of self-driving cars because you're a danger in a society where

00:49:18.320 the natural person can't understand what everybody's talking about.

00:49:22.860 Don't you become a danger?

00:49:23.800 Don't you have to be limited?

00:49:26.300 Sure.

00:49:27.620 I think one of the, one of the great things, right, though, is society is pretty large.

00:49:32.660 We don't all have to participate in exactly the same size society.

00:49:37.260 So even today, you may see some people who are going to make intentional choices about

00:49:42.200 not having certain technology, not participating in a consumer or materialistic society.

00:49:47.820 I think we're going to have to, we'll see even more of this.

00:49:51.320 We're going to see a growing divide between people who opt in to all the latest and greatest

00:49:55.640 technology can do, bringing us along to what people call sort of the postmodern era, sorry,

00:50:01.460 the post-human era, right?

00:50:03.480 Or, um, people who want to maintain that natural state.

00:50:08.180 When people say, um, that the end of, of humans, uh, could be 50, 70 years away.

00:50:15.800 I read that two ways.

00:50:17.820 I, well, first I read it, uh, as well, because homo sapiens won't exactly be homo sapiens.

00:50:24.700 Once we start upgrading, um, then, then there's something else.

00:50:28.480 Um, you're not a pure homo sapien, but after reading your book, uh, I, I, I, I'm, I'm afraid

00:50:36.860 that, you know, they, they actually mean that, that, that humans will not exist in 50, 70,

00:50:43.480 a hundred years.

00:50:45.520 Where do you stand on that?

00:50:48.280 I think there's a pretty good chance that we will either not exist or will be so changed

00:50:56.500 that we can't imagine that from where we are today.

00:51:01.160 I mean, I was having a conversation with my kids just two nights ago.

00:51:04.700 Um, they're all of an age where they don't remember the pre-smartphone error and how we

00:51:12.360 spent our time and they just can't picture it.

00:51:15.940 And so what they imagine is everyone's just always got their head buried in a phone.

00:51:21.160 That's just what people do.

00:51:22.160 That's how the head has always been right.

00:51:24.560 And they can't remember that difference.

00:51:26.080 As we move forward, as people are augmenting, as they're upgrading their minds, which I'm

00:51:32.920 sure is going to have all kinds of amazing benefits, right?

00:51:35.500 Like every other piece of technology, it's going to be amazing.

00:51:38.200 The temptation is going to be so strong.

00:51:40.340 And yet we really, from where we stand today, we can't imagine what that new world is going

00:51:45.300 to look like.

00:51:46.820 Do you, have you made a decision whether you would upgrade?

00:51:51.060 Well, you know, I'm one of these people, right?

00:51:54.080 I see both the pros and cons.

00:51:55.940 I think I would go down that path.

00:51:58.060 I think it will be an interesting adventure.

00:52:00.540 And yet at the same point in time, you know, I know that there'll be things that we give

00:52:04.460 up as a result.

00:52:05.960 Um, I want to, um, take you next to the basic question of what is life?

00:52:11.460 Because I think that is one of the main things that we're going to have to, um, uh, answer

00:52:17.980 with robotics.

00:52:19.620 Is that life the moment they say I'm alive, I can think I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm

00:52:24.060 self-aware is that life?

00:52:26.720 Is that not life?

00:52:28.400 Um, we're going to download, we're going to map your brain and we're going to download

00:52:32.660 you and put you into a machine because your body is, is beyond repair.

00:52:37.240 Uh, and you know, so you'll live on forever.

00:52:41.220 Is that really life?

00:52:43.020 We get to that next.

00:52:44.360 William Hurtling is the author of several books on technology.

00:52:57.960 Um, and the series of the Singularity series is the one that Glenn started with.

00:53:01.960 The latest book is called Kill Process, which is a separate storyline.

00:53:05.800 Uh, WilliamHurtling.com is where you can find it or at H-E-R-T-L-I-N-G at Hurtling on Twitter.

00:53:10.880 Highly recommend the series.

00:53:14.600 Just get it at Amazon, the Singularity series.

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00:54:16.260 Glenn Beck Mercury.

00:54:26.900 Glenn Beck.

00:54:28.420 The author, William Hurtling, he is an author of a multi-award-winning series of books,

00:54:39.180 the Singularity Series.

00:54:41.800 The Avogadro Corp is the first one, AI Apocalypse, The Last Firewall, and the Turing Exception.

00:54:47.720 They are really good, take place over the next 40 years, and kind of show you the things that we are facing in a novel form.

00:54:56.120 And it's really exciting and really enjoying, and you will really learn a lot.

00:55:02.980 Without giving away, you know, anything in the end, let me give away the end of the last book.

00:55:10.620 You have people digitizing themselves and going out into space because the world has been lost to technology and to AI.

00:55:24.800 Is that, how do we deal with the idea of, that's not life, that is life.

00:55:36.260 How do we deal with that with computers and with robots?

00:55:39.880 Because I think that's the first place we're going to see it.

00:55:42.020 Yeah, the, the, obviously we're going to have, um, robots or AI, they're going to talk to us and, um, they're going to say, Hey, I'm alive.

00:55:57.580 Don't turn me off.

00:55:58.760 Right.

00:55:59.080 Now, if your computer said that to you today, you would know that that's not real.

00:56:04.120 Um, but they're going to keep saying it and the AI is going to keep getting smarter.

00:56:08.660 And one day there's going to be an AI that's going to really seem like it is alive.

00:56:16.460 And then we really have to think about two things, which is, um, what does it mean?

00:56:22.520 What is our relationship to this other thing?

00:56:25.120 Right.

00:56:25.400 Is it something we own?

00:56:27.400 Is it our servant?

00:56:28.520 Is it a person?

00:56:29.380 Is it a friend?

00:56:30.800 Um, what does it mean for them to be turned on or off?

00:56:35.040 But what does it also mean for us?

00:56:37.320 So an example, um, that I actually got from, um, Daniel H. Wilson, the author of Roboapocalypse, uh, is an example he likes to give.

00:56:48.520 So imagine that, uh, you're out, you're with your kid and, uh, you get really frustrated at your car and you kicked the car, um, because you were frustrated that it wouldn't start or something.

00:57:01.700 And your child saw that now they might think it's a little bit odd, but they're probably not going to be too traumatized by you doing that, um, because you're dealing with an inanimate object.

00:57:12.280 Now, on the other hand, imagine, um, someone gets frustrated with a family dog and they kick the family dog.

00:57:19.600 That's going to be a whole lot more traumatizing for that kid to witness, right?

00:57:24.180 Because we empathize with them.

00:57:25.760 So what does it mean if you have an AI that appears to be alive, right?

00:57:32.580 Your kids are going to think it's alive.

00:57:34.100 I mean, think about how kids interact with technology today.

00:57:36.580 They're going to believe it.

00:57:38.720 And so how trauma inducing is it to them to think about like turning off their AI friends or their robotic dog reaches the end of its life and we throw it away?

00:57:48.560 Everything, everything, everything is about to change and I, I can't recommend highly enough, uh, read the singularity series by William Hurtling.

00:57:57.700 It's available Amazon, the singularity series started today.

00:58:01.580 It's a great read back mercury.

00:58:14.460 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:58:18.560 The founders of the new group, new California took an early step towards statehood, uh, on Monday after reading their own declaration of independence from California.

00:58:35.700 Uh, they say California has become ungovernable and they said, what we'd like to do is take most of the current day, California, including the rural counties and leave all the coasts.

00:58:48.460 And the urban areas to, you know, California, California, they said the current state of California has been governed by a tyranny.

00:59:00.060 After years of over taxation, regulation, and monoparty politics, the state of California and many of its 58 counties have become ungovernable.

00:59:08.900 Citing a decline in essential basic services, including education, law enforcement, infrastructure, and healthcare.

00:59:15.620 The group says they hope to model their split, uh, over what happened in Virginia, becoming the state of West Virginia.

00:59:23.320 California, the authority comes in article four, section three of the U S constitution and new California wants to be the 51st state.

00:59:34.520 But I will tell you that I don't, I don't, I don't have a problem with this.

00:59:41.380 I, I, I worry that we are dividing ourselves.

00:59:48.240 Into groups where we just don't need, we don't even understand each other.

00:59:52.100 So we're becoming balkanized, but you know, I, I just don't understand.

00:59:57.520 Understand, you know, there's people that want to, you know, they want the socialism and everything else.

01:00:03.080 Good.

01:00:03.940 I'm fine with that.

01:00:05.760 I'm fine with that.

01:00:06.940 Leave me alone.

01:00:08.640 You know, you want to have your socialistic thing.

01:00:11.180 Go do your socialistic thing.

01:00:12.440 You want to be a state?

01:00:13.600 Great.

01:00:14.300 We're not going to bail you out if it fails.

01:00:18.180 What part of a socialism do you think allows them to leave you alone?

01:00:22.800 None.

01:00:23.500 That's the problem.

01:00:24.400 That's the problem.

01:00:25.000 If it was leaving you alone, it wouldn't be socialism.

01:00:28.640 Correct.

01:00:29.600 Unfortunately.

01:00:30.400 You're right.

01:00:30.960 They're like, you know, there are, there've been experiments in history.

01:00:33.280 We did this on one of the chalkboards, you know, several weeks ago.

01:00:38.000 Where they went into the people who initially experimented with the idea of socialism.

01:00:43.160 And they did it in a way that was not Stalin-esque.

01:00:45.540 It was not, you know, Castro-esque.

01:00:48.760 It was, hey, really good things.

01:00:50.980 We, we're going to, we're going to all live together and we're going to do things to help each other.

01:00:54.820 And it was presented with a smiley face.

01:00:58.720 And it was done unlike socialism is usually done, which is they say it's going to be great.

01:01:04.820 But in reality, they wind up murdering all their citizens.

01:01:07.640 These were generally speaking, good people.

01:01:10.240 They were people who with good intentions who tried this with the best of hopes.

01:01:13.820 Yeah.

01:01:14.020 They did drive out the old people. 1.00

01:01:15.760 They didn't kill them, but they drove them out.

01:01:18.220 Once you, once you weren't able to work and once you weren't, once you were of a certain age, you had to leave the community and go away from the family.

01:01:27.780 So, you know, it wasn't, it, you know, it wasn't a death camp.

01:01:31.280 Look, we're talking the socialism scale.

01:01:34.260 Don't call me out for these minor, minor infractions.

01:01:37.920 This is a happy one.

01:01:38.900 This is the, one of the better ones.

01:01:40.280 But what they found out is that, you know, without incentives, without making people, without people wanting to better themselves, because there was no hope to better themselves.

01:01:48.640 That was the design of the system that the society fell apart over and over and over again.

01:01:53.320 One of them, it was even here in Dallas, Texas.

01:01:55.460 One of the first.

01:01:56.120 Oh, yeah.

01:01:57.420 Examples of that tower.

01:01:58.620 The heritage.

01:01:59.220 Is it?

01:02:00.120 No.

01:02:01.220 What's the name of that tower in downtown reunion?

01:02:03.940 Reunion.

01:02:04.020 That's right.

01:02:04.540 Thank you.

01:02:04.940 That was the name of the town reunion.

01:02:07.080 And it was a right downtown Dallas.

01:02:11.040 It was a socialist utopia and it failed miserably, failed miserably.

01:02:16.940 And it was with talented people and people with good intentions.

01:02:20.120 It is the reason why Dallas is the city that it is, because all of these talented socialist utopians that had real skill and real, you know, intellect, they came and they tried it.

01:02:35.000 And when it failed, they all started leaving and they were like, OK, that doesn't work.

01:02:40.420 Let's try something else.

01:02:41.500 And they went towards, you know, capitalism and freedom and they built Dallas.

01:02:46.940 Yeah.

01:02:47.440 So that one worked.

01:02:48.640 Yeah.

01:02:48.860 And that's the story of socialism over and over and over again.

01:02:52.800 So it would be like we certainly have elements, flares into socialism that other states try.

01:02:59.960 We know that in California.

01:03:01.140 And I mean, you know, Vermont had, you know, has massive experiments into socialized health care and many, you know, we are obviously our country at some level has done that as well.

01:03:13.920 You can have these little things, but they all they affect everybody.

01:03:16.580 These little socialist plans that eat up one, two, three percent of your economy and they just continue to grow all the time, wind up really affecting people and hurting the growth of an economy and hurting people and lives.

01:03:33.120 But I go back to I don't I mean, look, if if if Californians want to try it, you get all the best land, you get all the you got all the coast land, you get everything, you get all the sweet parts.

01:03:47.860 Well, I think the mountains are a sweet part, too.

01:03:50.600 And, you know, where you can actually grow food is also a good.

01:03:54.560 But you take that.

01:03:57.540 Take it.

01:03:59.100 I mean, I really would if if we could have a peaceful civil war.

01:04:04.500 And I think most people in our country that were real constitutionalist would say, you pick the states, give us 25, give us the worst 25.

01:04:13.240 Give us the ones that you just say, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. 1.00

01:04:18.140 We'll we'll show you because I have absolute confidence that when people are left to do what they can do, they'll change the world.

01:04:30.680 So give us the worst 25 states.

01:04:33.020 We'll live there.

01:04:33.980 Now, don't come in and don't blame us when it goes bad for you because it's going to.

01:04:39.360 But why are we all having to be trapped under this socialist umbrella?

01:04:44.960 Why why do we all why are we all forced to live like, you know, the way half of us don't think we should live?

01:04:53.060 In fact, we have a we have a study out done by a Democrat presented to the Democrats begging them.

01:05:02.260 Stop it.

01:05:03.020 You're out of step with the American people.

01:05:04.680 You're out of step with the Democrats.

01:05:06.300 Yeah.

01:05:07.300 Remember, after Romney lost, there was this big postmortem and it was like, look, this is what happened.

01:05:13.900 We weren't liberal enough on on immigration.

01:05:17.880 They had this big like that is kind of what has happened here.

01:05:21.660 Right.

01:05:22.060 It's it's a study of what?

01:05:23.320 Hey, wait a minute.

01:05:23.700 The Democrats lost.

01:05:24.560 Why the heck did they lose?

01:05:25.520 They shouldn't have lost this election.

01:05:27.240 All everyone said Hillary is going to win. 1.00

01:05:29.200 Why do they lose?

01:05:30.180 And you kind of look at this and you say, well, maybe it's because you're taking everyone who isn't a hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter and tossing them to the side.

01:05:41.380 You know, I mean, you're embracing that hardcore left thing.

01:05:44.320 We saw this with Tom Perez when they talked about basically kicking everybody out.

01:05:49.420 That was not a pro choice candidate.

01:05:54.200 We don't want you running as a Democrat unless you are pro choice.

01:05:58.700 And like that is sure.

01:05:59.680 That's 90 percent of them anyway.

01:06:01.120 But, you know, there have been major politicians for the Democrats, some of the most successful politicians that have been pro life Democrats.

01:06:08.940 At least they say they were.

01:06:11.460 And now you're saying, well, we're going to reject that chunk of the population.

01:06:15.400 Is it a huge chunk?

01:06:16.600 I don't think it's a huge chunk.

01:06:17.580 But I don't think it's more than that.

01:06:19.860 We're going to get into this research tonight at five o'clock on the Blaze TV on my show at five.

01:06:26.180 But again, it was done by a Democrat trying to convince the Democratic Party they're going the wrong way and they're not listening.

01:06:34.700 But I think it's more than just, you know, pro life.

01:06:38.060 It's it's a rejection of God.

01:06:40.000 It's a rejection of traditional common sense, not traditional values, traditional common sense.

01:06:46.620 It's it's becoming a rejection of science and it's becoming so radical that I think the Democratic Party in many ways scares many Democrats.

01:06:58.560 They're they're not going to say that out loud.

01:07:00.540 But I think there's parts of it when they see what's happening in the college campuses.

01:07:03.680 I think the average Democrat looks at that and goes, that's that's crazy.

01:07:08.180 That's crazy.

01:07:09.140 Yeah.

01:07:09.360 And the pathway to the lunatic fringe is just getting paved every day and making it easier to go that way. 0.95

01:07:18.960 Look at Cory Booker yesterday.

01:07:20.400 I mean, Cory Booker is in the middle of an essentially his audition for a 2020 run senator from New Jersey.

01:07:25.520 And he looks like a complete lunatic harassing a woman in the Trump administration about immigration and DACA and and all of these other things.

01:07:38.900 And he's trying to be more animated because he knows he had to to win a primary.

01:07:43.820 He's got to be as crazy as possible and look like he's got to out left Elizabeth Warren.

01:07:48.980 He's got to out left Kamala Harris. 0.99

01:07:50.480 He's got to out left all of these crazy people.

01:07:52.500 Bernie Sanders, all these people that are already there.

01:07:54.420 He's got to figure out a way to get to their left.

01:07:56.480 And the only way you can think of doing it is waving his hands around and making his eyes big and yelling at a woman, which I thought was bad from Democrats.

01:08:03.300 I thought you were supposed to.

01:08:05.020 I mean, I thought that was mansplaining.

01:08:07.640 It seems like Cory Booker did yesterday was mansplaining if a Republican did it for Cory.

01:08:12.460 I guess it's OK. Here's here's a clip of what Cory Booker said yesterday.

01:08:17.160 I hurt when Dick Durbin called me.

01:08:20.200 I had tears of rage when I heard about this experience in that meeting.

01:08:23.040 And for you not to feel that hurt and that pain and to dismiss some of the questions of my colleagues saying I've already answered that line of questions when tens of millions of Americans are hurting right now because of what they're worried about what happened in the White House.

01:08:40.000 That's unacceptable to me.

01:08:41.640 And I've got a president of the United States whose office I respect, who talks about the country's origins of my fellow citizens in the most despicable of manner.

01:08:52.540 You don't remember.

01:08:54.400 You can't remember the words of your commander in chief.

01:08:57.580 I find that unacceptable.

01:08:59.220 I mean, if you see this video, if you haven't seen it yet, his eyes are wide.

01:09:04.560 He's putting angry face on.

01:09:08.520 He's he's trying to.

01:09:10.320 I mean, he's screaming at a woman in front of all these people.

01:09:13.440 And what's interesting, because, first of all, tears of rage.

01:09:18.560 Did you really?

01:09:20.080 Here's a guy.

01:09:21.160 Donald Trump.

01:09:21.820 They every day they spend calling him essentially Adolf Hitler.

01:09:26.020 He's a dictator.

01:09:27.420 He's insane.

01:09:29.160 But, you know, we're supposed to believe that they believe that.

01:09:33.020 And at the same time, if he changes the terms of their immigration negotiation, we're exposed.

01:09:39.700 We're supposed to believe they're so surprised by that that they fall into tears of rage.

01:09:45.600 Come on.

01:09:47.260 This person's either completely insane and unpredictable and you should be expecting these things or the opposite.

01:09:54.260 We're going to get really upset that they change his changes his mind in negotiation.

01:09:57.980 Obviously, this is one of those ridiculous grandstanding appearances that we get from senators all the time when they try to run for president.

01:10:06.180 And the other thing is, too, what is he criticizing her of at this time?

01:10:09.400 Is it that she isn't answering the questions because she said she's already answered them?

01:10:18.020 Is it you're really that upset because someone said, actually, I've already answered that question?

01:10:23.280 What she's not saying, she's not going to answer it.

01:10:24.840 She's saying she's already covered that material.

01:10:26.980 You're really going to get that upset over that?

01:10:29.080 It's clearly overacting.

01:10:30.680 You know, it's a guy who's trying to, you know, build up a pathway to this fake anger so he can get donations, so he can get, you know, a little buzz from the grassroots.

01:10:46.440 He's trying to build himself into a thing.

01:10:50.000 And it's so obvious he's trying here because he's trying so hard to convince you he's mad right now.

01:10:58.960 So it really comes off as I think he's going to connect with a lot of people on the left and not necessarily just the far left.

01:11:07.320 I think he's going to come.

01:11:08.740 You watch.

01:11:09.380 I think he's going to turn out to look very, very balanced and very, you know, normal, middle of the road performance is going to get him balanced.

01:11:17.540 No, I didn't say that performance.

01:11:18.800 But I think he's I think that's the way he's going to be viewed by a lot of people on the left.

01:11:24.460 And the problem is, is that our extremes are so far.

01:11:27.540 I mean, we're talking Marxists, atheists, revolutionaries, people who are telling us that men and women, that that designation doesn't even exist.

01:11:40.600 We're talking crazy things.

01:11:42.800 And on the other side, it's it's hard to defend some of the things that said by the the right and are being defended by the right.

01:11:53.220 So you have all these people on both sides who are saying nobody's representing me.

01:11:58.020 Nobody's representing me.

01:11:59.220 I don't agree with them.

01:12:00.300 I don't agree with them.

01:12:02.440 That's the opportunity.

01:12:04.340 Now, who is going to occupy that space?

01:12:07.120 Do you see any politician moving genuinely to that space?

01:12:12.920 No, the parties won't allow it.

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01:14:17.780 If you live in California and you're part of the independence of a new California, I support you.

01:14:26.220 Not going to happen, but I support you.

01:14:30.140 Um, state department has just issued this warning.

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01:15:29.340 You can imagine the air was thick with tension as FEMA agents arrived.

01:15:33.820 U.S.

01:15:34.180 Army Corps of Engineers, their armed security detail, they entered the warehouse.

01:15:39.420 They were on a mission to see if the rumors were true.

01:15:44.600 They couldn't be true.

01:15:47.220 A hundred days after Hurricane Maria ripped through the island, half of the population is still living without electricity.

01:15:54.420 Have you seen the satellite pictures?

01:15:56.200 We're a hundred days, that's a third of the year in, and we still, people don't have electricity.

01:16:04.560 Despite the aid, construction materials, everything that we sent, still they haven't rebuilt very much, and they haven't restored the electrical grid.

01:16:15.000 So there was speculation that the Puerto Rican Electric Power Authority, or PREPA for short, had been hoarding these materials.

01:16:23.180 Our teams went into the warehouse, and it was easy for them to see this was true.

01:16:29.620 It was filled to the brim with equipment and resources.

01:16:35.420 That, that explained why FEMA agents were so perplexed by the lack of everything that the people needed in Puerto Rico.

01:16:45.640 PREPA received the equipment to rebuild, and then they just didn't do anything with it.

01:16:51.080 So while the people of Puerto Rico are forced to get by without life-saving electricity every single day, their salvation is sitting in a warehouse.

01:17:04.640 America should do something.

01:17:06.740 We did, it's sitting in a warehouse.

01:17:12.640 Corruption.

01:17:14.320 It has just got to stop.

01:17:17.180 And all of our governments are corrupt.

01:17:21.080 Government inefficiency, idiocy, and corruption, all at the expense of citizens.

01:17:29.180 How many lives could have been improved, even saved, if PREPA just did their job and would distribute the materials to Puerto Ricans?

01:17:41.180 It's Wednesday, January 17th.

01:17:51.860 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:54.280 If I can geek out just a little bit, today's kind of an exciting day for me.

01:17:59.000 I've wanted to talk to this guy since I read his first novel, Fatherland, which is one of my favorite books of all time.

01:18:05.240 I just love it.

01:18:07.160 And, you know, I've never been big enough to be able to get him on.

01:18:12.000 He also did, I can't remember the name of the book, Code.

01:18:17.660 I'll have to ask him about it.

01:18:19.060 Another great book.

01:18:20.800 Lots of great stories and great novels from Robert Harris.

01:18:27.760 He is the author of a new novel, Munich, and it is all about the Munich Treaty and Neville Chamberlain and what happened with Hitler.

01:18:40.920 But he takes it the way he always does and works a new storyline into it.

01:18:48.200 Welcome to the program, Robert Harris.

01:18:50.140 How are you, sir?

01:18:51.340 I'm very well, Glenn.

01:18:52.340 Thank you for having me on.

01:18:53.440 You bet.

01:18:53.960 Are you over in London?

01:18:54.960 No, I live just outside, not far from Oxford, in the country.

01:19:00.540 It's a thrill to have you on.

01:19:02.620 I want to talk to you a little bit about the book, but I don't want to spoil it for anybody.

01:19:06.880 And don't spoil it for me because I'm halfway through.

01:19:10.760 But, you know, it revolves around Neville Chamberlain.

01:19:16.540 And I'm not a real fan of Neville Chamberlain.

01:19:21.440 And he gets kind of a bad rap.

01:19:25.900 Why are you, what is your attraction there?

01:19:28.900 And I seem to think that you are a fan of his.

01:19:33.100 Well, I wouldn't say I was a fan, to be honest.

01:19:36.340 But I do think there are some stories in history which are really quite opposite to what most people think.

01:19:42.560 About 30 years ago, I did a documentary for the BBC television about the 50th anniversary of the Munich Agreement.

01:19:49.780 It's going to be the 80th anniversary this September.

01:19:52.780 And I discovered that it was completely different to what I thought.

01:19:57.260 In particular, Adolf Hitler regarded it as a terrible defeat.

01:20:01.820 And that alone, I think, most people don't understand.

01:20:06.740 And I wrote Fatherland, as you mentioned.

01:20:10.560 But I always had in the back of my mind a desire to write a novel about the Munich Agreement.

01:20:15.980 And I had the idea of writing it from the point of view of one of the officials who flew out with Chamberlain to meet Hitler in September 1938.

01:20:26.080 And then I decided I'd also have a German character who travels on Adolf Hitler's train from Berlin to meet Chamberlain at Munich.

01:20:35.520 And so you follow these two men who were friends who were at Oxford University together as they head towards Munich.

01:20:41.980 And it gives me an opportunity to write a first-hand account of both Hitler and of Chamberlain.

01:20:47.380 So how much, Robert, of the novel is really close to true?

01:20:55.680 Like, for instance, the plot to kill Hitler at that point, was that going on?

01:21:02.900 Oh, yes.

01:21:05.760 Everything in the book, really, pretty well is true, apart from these two invented characters, Paul Hartman and Hugh Leggett, the German and the Englishman.

01:21:15.480 And, yes, I mean, essentially what happened was that Hitler decided at the beginning of the summer of 1938 that he would, for the first time, invade another country.

01:21:28.680 And he issued all this to the German army to prepare to wipe Czechoslovakia off the face of the map.

01:21:34.980 That was how he termed it.

01:21:36.900 And the army came back and said they could reckon they could do this in about five or six weeks.

01:21:44.060 And he threw the plans back at them and said, I want to be in Prague within a week.

01:21:49.620 And elements of the German army took fright at this.

01:21:52.340 It was the first time that they really woke up to the fact of where Hitler was likely to lead them.

01:21:57.920 And for the first time, there were contacts between opposition elements in Berlin and the British government in London.

01:22:04.900 And there was a slightly crazy scheme if the British and French declared war to try and arrest Hitler.

01:22:12.280 I don't actually think it was that serious.

01:22:15.000 But certainly it was the real first beginnings of the rumblings of a resistance to Hitler as the Germans realized where it was heading.

01:22:21.800 Yeah, I was surprised when Chamberlain arrives in Munich that there were, you know, the Oompa bands that were playing, you know, popular tunes from England, that the crowds cheered him.

01:22:34.660 I always thought of the Germans not for peace.

01:22:40.100 And that's not what it was.

01:22:44.080 Well, no, absolutely.

01:22:45.320 There's no doubt in the historical record about that.

01:22:47.720 Hitler, according to all the reporters, including the American newspapers who were there, received much louder cheers whenever he appeared than Hitler got.

01:22:55.400 And Hitler was furious about this.

01:22:57.440 One of the reasons I wrote the novel was because I came across a journalist, a German journalist called Joachim Fest, who was the ghostwriter on the memoirs of Albert Speer, the Hitler's armament minister.

01:23:09.720 And in this diary, Fest asked Speer one day back in the 60s, what did Hitler feel about Munich?

01:23:16.680 And Speer said Hitler was in a rage for two weeks after Munich.

01:23:21.680 He wouldn't even speak to his private staff, which was unusual for him.

01:23:25.800 And then it all came pouring out at a private social occasion.

01:23:29.580 He said the German people have been fooled and by Neville Chamberlain of all people.

01:23:35.140 And what he was referring to was that Chamberlain, because he was the architect of a peace agreement, the German people staged a kind of anti-Hitler protest in the sixth year of his rule by cheering Chamberlain loudly whenever he appeared.

01:23:50.680 This infuriated Hitler and was one of the reasons why I think he drew back from attacking Czechoslovakia.

01:23:57.040 So as I was reading this and you really kind of spell it out, very colorful, the the appearance of everything with Hitler was strong and militaristic and streamlined. 0.75

01:24:16.540 And, you know, Mussolini is there the same thing.

01:24:20.640 And here comes a guy who kind of looks like a walrus and another guy who looks old and frail coming to the meeting.

01:24:28.040 Those two guys must have seen the English as complete things of the past and and just weak.

01:24:39.240 Well, I think that that's true.

01:24:42.400 There was a great contrast in Munich between, you know, the fascists, the Germans and the Italians, mostly quite young men in their smart uniforms and these dowdy, quite elderly civilians in their crumpled suits who've flown into Munich. 0.60

01:24:58.920 But appearances are a bit deceptive.

01:25:00.900 One of the one of the other reasons I wanted to put Chamberlain in the novel is that he is he was a tough old bird.

01:25:06.820 And Winston Churchill said that about him, too.

01:25:11.140 He was a really dominant prime minister.

01:25:14.160 He he he busted and lauded it over his colleagues.

01:25:18.140 And he was quite vain and arrogant in his way and as determined on peace as Hitler was on war. 0.68

01:25:25.820 And Hitler, he drove Hitler mad because Hitler was not really interested. 0.91

01:25:32.660 The pretext for war was to the return of three and a half million Germans who'd been assigned to this new state of Czechoslovakia in 1919 after the First World War.

01:25:43.260 But that was only the pretext.

01:25:45.120 The reality was, of course, that Hitler wanted a war of conquest into the east. 0.64

01:25:49.920 You know, the subject I cover in Fatherland.

01:25:52.440 Um, Chamberlain was determined to keep Britain out of a war on this issue.

01:25:59.780 We didn't have a Czech, a treaty with Czechoslovakia, but the French did.

01:26:03.860 So if Hitler had attacked Czechoslovakia, the French would have been legally obliged to go to Czechoslovakia's defence.

01:26:10.500 And the British would have felt obliged to stand by France.

01:26:14.320 So it would have been like the First World War with all the countries being dragged in.

01:26:18.340 Chamberlain wanted to avoid this.

01:26:19.740 So he actually flew to see Hitler, which was a sensational development, especially for a man in his 70th year. 0.75

01:26:28.360 And it was a grave mistake on Hitler's part to agree to see Chamberlain, because Chamberlain naturally asked him what were his grievances.

01:26:37.820 And Hitler told him. 0.77

01:26:39.340 And Chamberlain said, leave it with me.

01:26:41.800 I'll see what I can do effectively.

01:26:43.760 And he removed Hitler's pretext for war.

01:26:47.340 He said, well, if the concern is these three and a half million Germans into the dayland, I'm sure we can arrange for them where the majority is German for those lands to be transferred to Germany. 0.96

01:26:59.540 And this is what forced Hitler in the end to back down. 0.88

01:27:03.920 Goebbels said you can't fight a war on details.

01:27:06.660 And Hitler couldn't do it. 0.87

01:27:09.380 And so he missed that opportunity for war.

01:27:12.080 And at the beginning of the novel, I put this quote from Hitler in the bunker in February 1945, when he said, we should have gone to war in 1938.

01:27:22.500 September 1938 would have been the perfect time. 0.99

01:27:26.040 And throughout the war, Hitler felt he was fighting it a year too late because of Munich.

01:27:30.420 He'd wanted to invade France in 1939.

01:27:33.760 He'd wanted to invade the Soviet Union in 1940.

01:27:37.060 And instead, his timetable was 12 months behind.

01:27:39.660 And in that time, the British, and more particularly, perhaps the Russians, rearmed massively.

01:27:46.580 Yeah.

01:27:46.840 Have you seen the movie Darkest Hour yet?

01:27:50.160 Yes, I have.

01:27:51.060 What did you think of that?

01:27:52.820 I thought it was a good piece of entertainment.

01:27:54.920 I thought it was a brilliant performance by Gary Oldman.

01:27:57.960 Yeah.

01:27:58.180 Because I'm sympathetic to Chamberlain, slightly more than most people are, I know, I felt that it was unfair on Chamberlain because, first of all, who built the Spitfires that were fighting the Battle of Britain?

01:28:10.520 Chamberlain did when he spent 50 percent of British government revenues on rearmament in 1939, an enormous amount for a country of peace.

01:28:20.400 Right.

01:28:20.520 And also, Chamberlain, because of his experience dealing with Hitler, backed Churchill in rejecting any suggestion of listening to peace terms.

01:28:31.180 And because Chamberlain at that time was leader of the Tory party, his was the decisive voice.

01:28:36.160 And most people think that Chamberlain wanted to do a deal with Hitler.

01:28:39.380 The opposite is the case.

01:28:41.280 He supported Churchill very strongly and was the decisive voice on the 27th of May, 1940, at the cabinet meeting where it was decided to not even hear what Hitler's peace terms were.

01:28:52.620 When you're looking at today's world and you're seeing everything that's going on, your job, and you've been so good at this, you look at history and you see missed opportunities or chances for things to have been different.

01:29:16.660 What do you think we're going to look back over the last 20 years and say, if this event was understood at the time, it would have changed things?

01:29:30.200 Well, I think, you know, history is a beguiling subject because it enables you to go back and see where people went wrong.

01:29:41.680 And another of the quotes at the front of my book is from a great British historian called F.W. Maitland, who said,

01:29:48.060 you must always remember that what lies in the past once lay in the future.

01:29:53.960 Chamberlain didn't know that Hitler planned a Holocaust. 0.51

01:29:57.000 Nobody could foresee exactly how the Nazi regime would go.

01:30:01.060 You can only deal with things as they are as they appear to you.

01:30:06.000 Obviously, there are huge forces at work in the world today that we are finding it very hard to even understand, let alone respond to.

01:30:15.940 I think they are a large degree to do with technology and the way that that is completely transforming our society, destroying the assumptions on which most of us have built our lives.

01:30:28.880 It's a frightening time of change, and often after a long period of relative stability, which we've had since 1945, this leads to a kind of complete revolution.

01:30:42.060 In a way, the situation we're going through now reminds me rather of the period before 1914, or feels that there's something big coming along.

01:30:52.240 How I would deal with that, I don't know.

01:30:55.060 I mean, part of the point of my Munich novel is that these two men, these two young men, are sort of trapped by history.

01:31:02.480 They can see they're heading to the chasm, the abyss, but there's nothing they individually can do, although they try to do it.

01:31:10.080 And it feels that history has reached one of those points.

01:31:12.780 Do you know what I mean?

01:31:13.800 Yes.

01:31:14.560 That something big is happening.

01:31:16.380 Yeah.

01:31:16.640 And nobody can quite grasp it.

01:31:18.620 Yeah.

01:31:18.940 You can feel it.

01:31:20.380 You can feel it coming.

01:31:22.740 Robert, do you have a second?

01:31:23.920 Can you hang on while we take a quick break?

01:31:26.280 Yeah, absolutely.

01:31:26.860 Okay, hold on.

01:31:27.660 Robert Harris, the author of the book Munich, it is out now.

01:31:32.600 It's a novel.

01:31:34.560 He's a tremendous writer.

01:31:36.000 If you've never read a Robert Harris book, you should, and you can start with Munich, the novel.

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01:33:02.620 Robert Harris, the author of the new book, Munich, the novel.

01:33:06.940 He is one of my favorite writers.

01:33:09.680 And, Robert, I don't know how much time did we schedule you for?

01:33:14.600 I've got all the time in the world, so, you know, I have a pleasure talking to you.

01:33:18.360 I have two things, and, you know, what I love about your books is, for instance, Chamberlain.

01:33:24.260 I have a new look at Chamberlain, and I have to go back now and really study him again and see him in a different light and see the peace in our day in a different way.

01:33:35.600 But you've done this to me a few times.

01:33:38.620 One of the things that really was a pivot in my life was your book, Conclave.

01:33:44.260 I love that book, and the speech that the guy who ends up being Pope gives about certainty is something that I think everybody in the world should hear.

01:34:01.220 I read that part, and I thought, oh, my gosh, that is the problem.

01:34:05.400 Do you remember that part of the book?

01:34:07.060 I do, yes.

01:34:08.980 It was a bit of a nerve to, on my part, really, to write a novel about the election of a pope, especially, as I told it, from the point of view of a senior cardinal.

01:34:18.700 But I just, I've always been interested in power and its effects on men and women and what it does to them and what they try to do with it.

01:34:28.080 And really, almost the ultimate election is the election of a pope.

01:34:32.560 And this character really came into my head very strongly.

01:34:37.760 And he's a, as it happens, he's the head of the College of Cardinals when the pope dies, who has to organize the election,

01:34:47.880 even though he'd asked the pope just before he died if he could stand down because he was having a crisis of faith.

01:34:53.460 And that was really the key to unlocking that book, the idea that a man might actually be charged with electing the new pope

01:35:00.420 and yet, at the same time, be plagued with doubt.

01:35:03.220 And he has to give this huge televised address on when the conclave starts voting, which is seen by a billion people.

01:35:14.180 And so what does he say?

01:35:16.260 And a kind of spirit moves him, and he makes this, gives this sermon about the importance of doubt.

01:35:22.920 Without doubt, there's no faith.

01:35:26.780 I want to pick it up with there, and then also another one of your books, The Fear Index,

01:35:33.940 which, another one that I think everybody should read.

01:35:36.900 Robert Harris, new book, Munich.

01:35:38.880 More in a second.

01:35:39.320 Mercury.

01:35:39.760 Mercury.

01:35:52.920 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:35:55.340 Noted author Robert Harris, the author of the new book, Munich, the novel.

01:36:01.020 It is about the Munich Accords and Neville Chamberlain and Hitler duking it out.

01:36:10.600 And what we kind of misunderstand, I'm finding out as I'm reading this, Neville Chamberlain's, you know, we'll, we have peace in our day.

01:36:20.560 That was the Munich Treaty.

01:36:23.020 And Hitler saw that as a loss. 0.57

01:36:26.160 It's a great, thrilling novel that I think you really enjoy.

01:36:30.860 Robert is one of my, one of my favorite authors.

01:36:35.040 I fell in love with his stuff with Fatherland, which came out in the 90s, and I'm a little upset that you, you, you can't buy on Kindle anymore.

01:36:43.940 But Fatherland, I've also, I've read five or six of your books, Robert, and one of them I want to talk to you about is the Fear Index.

01:36:54.380 A minute ago, you said, you know, you were concerned about technology and how that's going to change us.

01:37:01.880 And the Fear Index is, is AI gone crazy.

01:37:08.200 And it made, it makes you look at AI in a completely different way.

01:37:13.060 Yeah, it's about a hedge fund manager in Geneva who used to work for the Large Hadron Collider and who, who sets up an artificially intelligent algorithmic trading operation,

01:37:30.460 which, like Frankenstein's monster also in Geneva, goes out of control.

01:37:35.280 And I had a lot of fun writing it, but as you say, it's, you know, it's a pretty, it's a pretty frightening superstructure over the world, this, this, this financial trading.

01:37:47.800 Most of us don't understand it.

01:37:49.260 And we've seen, you know, in 2008 what happens when it gets out of control, how it affects all our lives.

01:37:56.160 And in a way, the world has never really recovered from the disaster of the complexity of the financial world and the way in the end it caused so much trouble.

01:38:07.900 Well, it's very, I mean, the Fear Index is very Hitchcockian in a way where it's just an average guy kind of caught up into something he doesn't understand is much, much bigger than, you know, anything he possibly imagined.

01:38:22.860 And halfway through, I'm thinking, I believe all of this is possible, even if it's not done by AI, with the, with the tracking and the data that people have.

01:38:33.840 I mean, some government, you know, becomes like, you know, Nazi Germany.

01:38:38.220 This isn't going to be hard to manipulate and hard to do to people.

01:38:41.140 No, I agree.

01:38:42.840 And I think, you know, whatever the next war is like, what one fears the most is that it won't be anything like what we've been thinking about.

01:38:53.420 It will be some form of cyber war.

01:38:55.160 And in this country, certainly, if, for example, we were to suddenly not be able to take money out of an ATM machine because of a cyber attack, how quickly a city like London, which is said to be only five meals away from starvation, that is, that there's only enough food in the supermarkets, it's really 24-hour resupply.

01:39:18.020 How quickly civil order could collapse.

01:39:21.820 And I don't think that's like a, you know, a doomsday scenario anymore.

01:39:25.280 I have a horrible feeling that's what the next war will be like.

01:39:28.060 It won't be like the one that Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler were talking about in 1938.

01:39:33.340 It'll be something altogether more, potentially much more alarming, actually.

01:39:37.540 What is, as a writer, if I said to you, which one's the more believable scenario?

01:39:47.320 North Korea launches.

01:39:50.340 Putin, through, you know, nefarious ways, kind of cobbles together the old Soviet Union and is deeply embedded in all of our systems and turns us against each other.

01:40:07.540 Or financial doomsday that just kind of traps all of us into something ugly.

01:40:18.360 Well, I mean, you know, the second two could easily merge.

01:40:24.180 I think that that's what's frightening.

01:40:27.480 North Korea, I think perhaps is, in a weird sort of way, you know, there is a kind of mad, insane rationality to the North Korean regime,

01:40:36.980 in that they would blow their own brains out if they launched any sort of attack.

01:40:41.140 And people generally aren't quite that crazy, even if they may look it.

01:40:46.140 But something like Putin that gradually shades into a conflict that gets out of hand, that's much more the way things go in history.

01:40:54.380 You know, the Russian occupation of the Crimea was really the nearest thing we've seen to the Sudetenland Crimea.

01:41:05.180 I was reading your book.

01:41:06.580 Did the West do anything?

01:41:07.440 No, not really.

01:41:08.240 They simply put on sanctions, but that was it.

01:41:10.920 Yeah.

01:41:11.080 As I'm reading Munich and he's talking about that, and that's all I could think of, is this is exactly the same argument that Putin was making.

01:41:18.340 Yes, and of course, you see, for the Western governments, and for most Western people, the Crimea seems to be Russia's backyard. 0.62

01:41:28.480 You know, you assume that it was really part of Russia.

01:41:30.960 Most people would have thought there's no appetite really to fight or suffer over an issue like that, just as I don't think there was much in 1938 in Britain.

01:41:41.020 And bearing in mind it was only 20 years after the First World War, where the British alone had lost three-quarters of a million men killed, there was no appetite to fight over that issue.

01:41:51.300 And that's one of the things you've got to think about Munich, I think.

01:41:54.180 You've got to put it in the context of its time.

01:41:57.120 Chamberlain said he thought there would be a spiritual breakdown in Britain if the ordinary people didn't see their leaders trying to do everything possible to avoid another great war.

01:42:06.240 He destroyed his reputation, trying to avoid it, but I think in the end he did do a service, even if inadvertently, in giving the country a year or more to rearm.

01:42:18.240 And also, it gave it a moral superiority and strength that Churchill was able to draw on, as we see in Darkest Hour.

01:42:26.600 The name of the book is Munich, a novel.

01:42:29.700 The author is Robert Harris.

01:42:31.880 Robert, thank you so much.

01:42:33.800 God bless.

01:42:34.440 It's been a pleasure.

01:42:35.160 Thank you.

01:42:35.660 Thank you.

01:42:36.000 Bye.

01:42:36.240 That's one for my bucket list.

01:42:44.100 Love that guy's writing.

01:42:45.120 Yeah, you had a little glimmer in your eye when that, uh...

01:42:47.480 Yeah.

01:42:47.820 That was a big one.

01:42:48.720 I like him.

01:42:49.580 I mean, I love his books.

01:42:51.060 The Chamberlain stuff, I never had, you know, you never hear a positive take on Neville Chamberlain anymore.

01:42:55.980 Never, never, never, never, never.

01:42:56.980 Doesn't happen.

01:42:57.340 But I mean, he's right, obviously.

01:42:58.800 He delayed.

01:43:00.000 I mean, he's...

01:43:01.460 He even said it may have been unintentional.

01:43:04.260 Yeah.

01:43:04.460 Um, but delaying that war for another year was a big part of the reason why they were able to at least get through it.

01:43:11.700 Yeah, it's really interesting when you see it a little more colorful than what we normally look at.

01:43:17.360 Name of the book, Munich.

01:43:18.580 Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:43:23.100 What's on your mind today, Pat?

01:43:24.720 Uh, the President's Health.

01:43:26.440 Did you see the press conference yesterday?

01:43:28.180 I did.

01:43:28.640 Started about 2.45, ended three and a half minutes ago.

01:43:31.680 I could not believe the grilling that guy got.

01:43:38.420 First of all, he said some stupid things, right?

01:43:41.140 I mean, the guy's completely healthy, is in excellent health, but he's obese, and there's potential for heart disease.

01:43:48.120 I don't know.

01:43:49.020 It's problematic to me.

01:43:51.600 I don't know.

01:43:52.260 But the questions went on and on.

01:43:54.760 The dumbest...

01:43:55.620 How many times does he eat at McDonald's?

01:43:57.580 Does he ever order a hot apple pie for dessert?

01:44:01.680 What do you mean he doesn't exercise?

01:44:03.660 Our last president was a Greek god.

01:44:05.560 Could have played in the NBA or the pro golfer's tour.

01:44:08.420 This guy does nothing!

01:44:10.660 90% of us do nothing.

01:44:13.320 When was the last time you exercised?

01:44:15.720 I don't exercise.

01:44:18.140 I don't do it.

01:44:19.340 I believe the last time I really exercised was...

01:44:24.380 What day is it?

01:44:25.420 It is Tuesday.

01:44:27.220 1992.

01:44:30.080 And the day was important to you.

01:44:32.260 I think it was a Tuesday in 1992.

01:44:35.620 I would also point out it's Wednesday.

01:44:37.440 Oh, yeah.

01:44:37.820 You're right.

01:44:38.520 You're right.

01:44:39.300 I don't know.

01:44:39.700 Did you pass the cognitive test?

01:44:41.340 Is it already?

01:44:41.940 Yes, it is.

01:44:42.500 Wow.

01:44:42.820 See?

01:44:43.560 I need the cognitive test, I guess.

01:44:45.720 Because I don't even know what day it is anymore.

01:44:48.000 But the questions were amazing.

01:44:49.900 And they just...

01:44:50.720 They wouldn't accept the fact that he doesn't have dementia.

01:44:53.040 Because they deemed that he does a long time ago.

01:44:56.460 And so they just kept going.

01:44:57.960 I thought that was really smart of the president to take that test.

01:45:01.860 So did I.

01:45:02.860 You know, it's obvious that no one really took it seriously.

01:45:06.160 Now, you took the exact same one.

01:45:08.680 What, today?

01:45:09.480 Yeah.

01:45:09.760 Yeah.

01:45:10.160 Well, I didn't pass.

01:45:11.060 It's an example of this test, yeah.

01:45:12.560 And it's called the Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

01:45:15.380 Right.

01:45:15.840 It's not like a...

01:45:16.740 My guess is it's not the hardest cognitive test available.

01:45:19.540 No.

01:45:19.760 It's just do you have dementia.

01:45:21.300 I know you've had some serious ones.

01:45:23.020 I've gone to Columbia and also had one at the Mayo Clinic.

01:45:28.600 And, you know, they were, you know, at the time, we were worried about the early onset of...

01:45:34.720 I can't remember it.

01:45:36.820 Wow.

01:45:37.300 This is showing it's happening.

01:45:38.620 Yeah.

01:45:39.300 And so, you know, the test is...

01:45:42.340 If you're really concerned, the test is intense.

01:45:46.120 Well, you want it to be challenging.

01:45:47.160 Yeah.

01:45:47.380 And it takes an hour.

01:45:49.540 And, you know, it's not like this.

01:45:51.740 This is like, hey, Terry Schiavo, you just woke up from a coma.

01:45:57.560 Yeah.

01:45:58.120 Is that a cow or an octopus?

01:46:02.160 I mean, it really is.

01:46:03.760 It really is.

01:46:03.860 Let me give you a few of these here.

01:46:05.460 Oh, wow.

01:46:05.860 I'm going to show you three pictures.

01:46:07.160 You have to tell me what these things are.

01:46:08.760 Okay.

01:46:08.920 What are those things?

01:46:12.160 Okay.

01:46:12.900 That's a dog.

01:46:14.880 Oh, no.

01:46:15.400 It's a lion.

01:46:16.240 Oh, no.

01:46:16.660 Oh, boy.

01:46:17.460 And a...

01:46:18.660 A llama?

01:46:19.680 A heart vart.

01:46:20.260 A heart vart.

01:46:21.080 A heart vart.

01:46:21.820 I mean, you know, it's legitimately like a drawing of a lion.

01:46:24.380 Yeah, that's too easy.

01:46:24.680 And you have to know that it's a lion.

01:46:26.280 Some of them, they can be a little bit more challenging, however.

01:46:29.800 And there's 30.

01:46:30.500 He said there were 30 and he got 26.

01:46:33.580 He got 26.

01:46:34.220 I thought he got 30.

01:46:34.760 Did he get all 30?

01:46:35.520 I thought he got 30.

01:46:35.920 Okay.

01:46:36.120 It's a point system.

01:46:37.240 For example, you'd get, you know, if you got all three of those pictures right, you'd

01:46:41.680 get three points.

01:46:42.480 Okay.

01:46:42.760 So, did you know it was a rhinoceros?

01:46:44.180 Did you know it was a camel?

01:46:45.240 Did you know it was a lion?

01:46:46.020 I actually did.

01:46:46.440 You get three.

01:46:46.720 I know you did, but you get all three of those.

01:46:48.920 Give him the math one.

01:46:49.560 Give him the math one.

01:46:50.300 This is impossible.

01:46:50.860 Okay.

01:46:51.540 Glenn thinks this is impossible.

01:46:52.520 No, no, ready?

01:46:53.120 Ready?

01:46:53.360 I got to do it to him.

01:46:54.120 Watch him.

01:46:54.540 Watch him.

01:46:54.860 He's just going to sweat.

01:46:55.820 All right.

01:46:56.520 Take 100.

01:46:57.600 Take 100.

01:46:58.660 Minus seven.

01:46:59.560 Oh, my gosh.

01:47:01.260 42?

01:47:01.760 See?

01:47:02.180 42.

01:47:02.800 He couldn't do it either.

01:47:03.980 I got the first one.

01:47:06.420 Don't claim you could do that.

01:47:07.580 I know.

01:47:08.180 You got a calculator out.

01:47:09.380 I've got a computer right here.

01:47:10.340 I got the first one.

01:47:11.440 I think I got 94, and then he said, subtract seven again, and I'm like, 81?

01:47:20.260 I don't know.

01:47:21.660 That's exactly right.

01:47:22.360 Right.

01:47:22.820 Oh, it is right.

01:47:23.580 It is right.

01:47:24.300 There's no question.

01:47:25.160 Okay.

01:47:25.420 So, again, to get three points, the full score for that question, you'd have to get 100,

01:47:32.220 then you'd have to get 93, 86, 79.

01:47:35.000 Oh, man.

01:47:35.800 If you go, and then you have to get to 72.

01:47:38.160 Is it four?

01:47:38.500 Yeah, it's four.

01:47:39.080 You have to get four, right?

01:47:39.880 You have to get all the way to 72 to get.

01:47:42.060 But, again, these are not hard questions.

01:47:43.320 By the way, there's six points of the 30 are available for these six questions.

01:47:46.920 Are you ready?

01:47:47.540 Uh-huh.

01:47:48.400 What city are you in?

01:47:50.080 Now?

01:47:50.720 Yeah.

01:47:51.600 That's a good question.

01:47:53.900 Pocatello, Idaho?

01:47:54.900 Nope.

01:47:55.700 What place are you in?

01:47:58.320 What place?

01:47:58.760 Now, what does that mean?

01:47:59.400 I don't know.

01:47:59.960 Like, building?

01:48:00.480 I'm in an uncomfortable place right now.

01:48:04.660 That's a really introspective answer.

01:48:05.940 It really is.

01:48:06.700 Thank you.

01:48:07.140 Thank you.

01:48:07.680 What day is it of the week?

01:48:09.880 I didn't know that one.

01:48:11.080 And you got that one wrong?

01:48:11.780 You actually already are failing.

01:48:13.500 I didn't know.

01:48:14.260 What's the date?

01:48:15.280 I don't know.

01:48:16.180 Date, month, and year.

01:48:16.800 I was lucky to get January.

01:48:18.700 No kidding.

01:48:19.360 Date, month, and year are the other three.

01:48:20.560 So, you get six points, basically, for knowing the basics about your surroundings.

01:48:23.880 Don't ask him, which they should have, because it would have been fun, is, who's the president

01:48:27.800 today?

01:48:28.540 Yeah.

01:48:30.360 That's true.

01:48:31.260 All right.

01:48:31.440 I'm going to give you five words.

01:48:32.760 Repeat them back to me, okay?

01:48:33.660 Okay.

01:48:34.260 Repeat them after I've listed the five.

01:48:36.240 I will say the five.

01:48:37.500 After you've listed all five?

01:48:38.500 Then you're going to have to repeat the five.

01:48:39.840 Okay.

01:48:40.020 I got tripped up on that part.

01:48:41.120 Yes.

01:48:41.420 He had a lot of problems with this.

01:48:43.080 Okay.

01:48:43.340 Face, velvet, church, daisy, red.

01:48:51.640 Face, velvet, church, daisy, red.

01:48:55.520 Did how'd I do?

01:48:56.320 Yeah, I did.

01:48:56.760 You got all of them right.

01:48:57.520 You got all of them right.

01:48:58.580 I got three.

01:48:59.500 I honestly got three.

01:49:00.820 For real?

01:49:01.560 I am really.

01:49:03.280 It's weird.

01:49:04.380 On these tests, I do, and it makes sense if you know me.

01:49:07.600 I do really well visually.

01:49:09.040 Yeah.

01:49:09.340 I do really well in stories.

01:49:11.280 Like, they do, they'll tell you things, and they'll tell you a long-ass story that is

01:49:15.980 just poorly written, I will tell you that.

01:49:18.280 And then they say, tell it back to me and see how many things you miss.

01:49:24.240 They'll say, you know, what color was the sweater?

01:49:26.380 And the sweater had really nothing to do with the story.

01:49:28.840 I'm good at stories.

01:49:30.320 I'm good at the way I think.

01:49:31.980 When it comes to just random words, for some reason, I have a really difficult time.

01:49:37.940 Now, you correctly named those five words, which would give you, on the test, zero points.

01:49:42.880 Why?

01:49:43.360 Why?

01:49:43.680 Because this is the real question.

01:49:45.200 Now repeat those five words.

01:49:47.480 After all that time?

01:49:48.560 Mm-hmm.

01:49:50.320 It's actually five minutes.

01:49:51.480 It's actually supposed to be five minutes.

01:49:51.900 That's kind of hard.

01:49:52.760 Yeah.

01:49:53.120 Yeah.

01:49:53.480 Face.

01:49:54.460 Velvet.

01:49:56.900 Spoons.

01:49:58.060 Broccoli.

01:49:59.520 Tomato.

01:50:00.260 I don't know if I even get two.

01:50:01.420 You got two.

01:50:01.620 I think I got more than he did.

01:50:02.920 I think you got two for sure.

01:50:05.380 You may have had the third one.

01:50:06.280 Now, they have a suggestion.

01:50:08.240 That I couldn't get all five.

01:50:10.280 That's bad.

01:50:10.620 To begin with, I got three.

01:50:12.700 But five minutes later, I still had those three, baby.

01:50:15.060 Yeah.

01:50:15.420 Which is impressive.

01:50:16.520 So, did Trump get them all?

01:50:18.460 Supposedly, he got the perfect score on the test.

01:50:20.880 Wow.

01:50:21.380 Now, again, there's a couple factors you could take into that.

01:50:25.100 One, all this does is essentially prove that he is thinking like a human being, which

01:50:29.260 is pretty obvious he is.

01:50:30.460 Yeah.

01:50:30.740 I mean, he didn't have a stroke.

01:50:33.400 But secondly, I think, too, like, if you're prepared for it, you've probably seen example

01:50:37.320 tests.

01:50:37.980 Oh, I don't.

01:50:38.300 You know, like, I'm sorry.

01:50:39.780 Your staff is not letting you walk in there for the first cognitive test in the history

01:50:43.600 of the presidency of the United States unprepared for that.

01:50:45.160 No, I think that's true.

01:50:46.000 You don't think that's true?

01:50:46.980 Yeah.

01:50:47.300 Absolutely.

01:50:47.920 It might be.

01:50:48.240 It very well might be true.

01:50:49.540 But I don't think he's crazy.

01:50:51.100 No, I don't either.

01:50:52.200 I don't think he has dementia.

01:50:53.260 He doesn't have dementia.

01:50:54.340 No, he doesn't.

01:50:54.920 But he knows the five, unlike what we did with Pat, who didn't know I was going to ask him

01:50:58.920 again about the five questions.

01:51:00.220 He knows that, don't you?

01:51:01.100 Yeah.

01:51:01.480 Right.

01:51:01.760 Yeah.

01:51:02.020 So thank you, Pat.

01:51:04.160 Thank you.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 17, 2018

1⧸17⧸18 - 'Upgrade Your Mind' (William Hertling & Robert Harris join Glenn)

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