1⧸4⧸18 - Who gets the kids with Trump and Bannon divorcing?
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On today's show, Glenn and Geoff join me to discuss the latest in the Steve Bannon vs. Donald Trump saga, including the White House's response to a cease and desist order sent by President Trump's lawyers, and the new book being written about Steve's time in the administration.
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Pat Gray and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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It's been a fascinating 24 hours or so since the Steve Bannon discussion began.
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And the Steve Bannon versus Donald Trump battle began.
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Lawyers on behalf of President Trump sent a letter yesterday or last night to former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon
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demanding he refrain from making disparaging comments against the president and his family.
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Can a president demand that people don't make disparaging comments against him?
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You can't tell me not to say bad things about the president.
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But you can say virtually anything you want other than that.
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How do you send a cease and desist against saying mean things about the president?
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You can stop Steve Bannon from saying things that Donald Trump and his family don't like.
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And look, and he's already backed up a little bit anyway.
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Last night, so it's where it seems like he wants the kids more than he wants Donald.
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You know, he was bashing the kids more than he bashed Donald.
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Yeah, he actually, on his, I guess it's his show.
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So on Sirius XM, he was actually saying good things about the president.
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I mean, that's a fine line to walk with President Trump, you know, with dad.
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You go after, I think going after his children is just like going after him.
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So, he, Donald Trump has obviously not taken kindly to this Steve Bannon news.
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So, to him speaking to Michael Wolfe in this new book, it'll be interesting when this thing
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And then, you know, not long after that, they turn around and they start throwing knives
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You know, I mean, he's got a little, he's got a little point to be pissed.
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But Trump has always kind of dismissed Bannon ever since he left, ever since he was out
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of the picture, out of the administration, away from the campaign.
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Trump's always kind of said, yeah, he came in afterwards.
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He really, he had nothing to do with my winning.
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It's a different story when you listen to Steve Bannon.
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And so there's been an interesting, yesterday on my show, Pat Gray Unleashed, which immediately
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follows this on the Blaze Radio and TV network.
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I was saying that I expected a lot of tweets from the president about Steve Bannon last
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We gave the over under at five and I said it'd be over.
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I mean, Don is like, look, he's squandered the privilege of working with the White House
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and serving the country, turned it into a backstabbing, harassing, leaking, lying, undermining
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He was just looking for an opportunity for power.
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And that would bode well with President Trump saying, you know, he came in after.
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Now, there was a there's an interview from one of Donald Trump's advisers, Sam Nunberg,
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And he had some interesting things to say about this upcoming book from Wolf in that I think
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And at one point, Wolf says Trump told you that he can be, quote, the most famous man
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The quote reads, as the campaign came to an end, Trump himself was saying when his ultimate
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goal, after all, had never been to win, I can now be the most famous man in the world.
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Well, what I was telling Michael was a story that in 2014, I was flying down with then Mr.
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Trump to New Orleans for the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.
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And he had already told me he was planning on running.
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And what I said to him was 100 years from now, nobody's going to remember if you don't
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Frankly, nobody was going to remember who was the president.
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But I'll tell you what, 100 years from now, when they're covering you, they're not going
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They're not going to be able to say you were a perennial tease.
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And the one thing I can guarantee you is that you were going to come out well out of this.
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I can't guarantee you you'll win the nomination.
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So did he say, I'm going to be I'm going to be famous and I don't even need to win any
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What he did say, what the president did say was, I won't come out badly out of this.
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What I find with Michael and with the quotes and I sat with Michael at least three times
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from my recollection is Michael takes the quotes and he puts them as direct quotes.
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But they're really paraphrasing what I said and how I explained it.
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With that said, I'm not criticizing Michael at all.
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Well, another excerpt is kind of wants to have it both ways, doesn't he?
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When you were trying to explain the Constitution to then candidate Trump, Wolf writes, quote,
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early in the campaign, Sam number was sent to explain the Constitution to the candidate.
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Nunberg recalled before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back
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What happened was that it was a it was a week and a half before the before the first debate.
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And what I was worried about was that somebody would attack the would attack then Mr. Trump
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What is your favorite case about the Supreme Court?
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One thing Trump always told me and I was wrong about was that the campaign would be about
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big issues, be about big communication, be about explaining simple, common sense solutions.
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So when I brought this page and I made it like a crib sheet, maybe a page and a half.
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Yeah, we got to around the Fourth or Fifth Amendment, to which he then just started saying,
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And at the time he was running for president and still running his organization.
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So once again, Michael kind of takes it out of context.
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Sort of what what he's saying here, it seems to me, is that the spirit of what is in the
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How accurate a picture do you think they paint of of the Trump campaign?
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Well, I think it was pretty accurate from what I understand towards the end.
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Remember, I wasn't involved with the campaign at all after around September of 2015.
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So when they start with Kellyanne, you know, just going around and blaming Reince earlier
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And I think that the president himself, one thing I had heard from numerous people, not
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only Steve, but others within the campaign is, for instance, that story about Mnuchin
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coming on the plane and having to get the wire transfer immediately when the when then
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candidate Trump promised to give the 10 million.
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I don't think he thought he was going to win until the end when he told a confidant of
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his Roger Stone, he said, look, it's trending my way.
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And if you remember, he out campaigned her and he and he concentrated on certain states
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I'm just wondering if you're if you're, you know, willing to say that this book is like
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rate it true, half true, mostly true, some true.
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I'd rate it half true on the specific examples.
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OK, mostly true overall that I don't think like on the gist on the gist of it.
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I do not think that the president thought he was going to win the campaign.
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And that seems to be a kind of a common theme from people in and around the Trump camp was
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As far as specific quotes that are in this book, they're not entirely accurate.
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But the gist of what he's saying, the spirit of of the message he says is is mostly true.
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OK, it's going to be interesting to see when the book comes out and you get the full context
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Hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Jeffy.
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Basically saying that he was going to chill about talking about everything that's going on.
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So legally, Trump does have one up on him already to start with.
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Secondly, the Trumpists and all the Trumpers and all the wonderful, deplorable people out there,
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They didn't go out and vote to their local polls for Bannon.
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You guys warned us about Bannon like six, eight months ago.
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I remember you guys sitting there, and I'm just listening to you guys like,
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So if they say, no, you guys were right about Bannon.
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Bannon did sign an agreement when he left that he wouldn't disclose, for instance, confidential
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That, I don't know that he's accused of even doing that.
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Disparaging remarks about the president and the family.
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I don't know that you can actually stop an American citizen from saying disparaging remarks
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I don't know that there's any paper you can sign that could actually prevent you from
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If, if, if, and they're trying to get away, they're trying to talk, um, libel and slander
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And a defamation lawsuit is, is something else.
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But you actually can't stop an American citizen from commenting on the president of the United
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More of the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Jeffy coming up here.
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You know, you have to admire the certain je ne sais quoi of President Trump in responding
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He's got a way of being so dismissive of anybody who, who crosses his path, uh, who
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contradicts him, who criticizes him in any way.
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I mean, they were, it's been, they're barely, they barely held the door open for me.
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Uh, interestingly, he didn't do this in tweets.
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Um, but he's, he's, uh, his statement was Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency.
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When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.
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I think he might've swept up around here after, uh, after hours when everybody else was gone.
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I think I saw him once with a broom in his hand, but I don't even, I'm not even sure I would recognize him if I laid eyes on him today.
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He was a staffer who worked for me after I'd already won the nomination.
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By defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican.
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That's not, that's not how he described his opponents when he was running against them.
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He says, uh, now that he's on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look.
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Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country.
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Yet Steve had everything to do with the loss of a set seat in Alabama held for more than 30 years by Republicans.
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I mean, that's Donald Jr.'s tweet of, you know, he's just an opportunist.
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He's not, he was, he's not just in it for the ride.
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I, I, Bannon's going to have a tough road to hoe to beat these guys.
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You know, you think back to that field of talented candidates.
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And they all thought that they had a way to get around that and win.
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Rubio was pretty much the only one who took Donald Trump on directly.
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But because Trump has that way of just making you look like you're, you're meaningless.
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You're a little, little Marco, little Marco dismisses you.
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There's going to be, I mean, history is going to look back on this time and this is going
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And I don't, actually, I don't even know that anybody else will ever win with that strategy.
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This was a certain guy at a certain time in a certain place with a, with a certain attitude.
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I mean, we're finding that out with some of the, with, you know, down the Senate races
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and some of the congressional races where people have tried to be Trump-ish.
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And it seems maybe that only works for Donald Trump.
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And yeah, it's going to be interesting to see when we look back on this 20 or 30 years
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from now and history writes about it, what they say about it, because it's fascinating and
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But no, look, and even Bannon is finding out that no one makes winning look easy.
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For his part, Bannon, who maybe is backing off this whole thing a little bit.
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You know, because he doesn't, again, you don't want to pick a fight with the president.
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Uh, Bannon responded to, uh, president Trump's statement on, on the, uh, Sirius XM show.
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He told a listener who called in the president, the president of the United States is a great
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You know, I support him day in and day out, whether going through the country, giving the
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Trump miracle speech or on the show or on the website.
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After everything's been said and is being said about him.
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Ah, you're on the, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
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Uh, Pat, I, I'm not a Bannon supporter, but I do believe that Trump can't deny that the
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way his campaign was being run, um, in the run up to him being elected wasn't, I mean,
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he can't say it wasn't affected by Bannon being brought on board because I think that
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Um, I think Bannon overall is just generally a patriot.
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He's probably not too colorful or he's probably too colorful in, um, what his viewpoints are.
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But, uh, I believe Trump is actually showing himself, um, who I've always thought he was.
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When my wife and I were definitely split on this, uh, running up to his election and it
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troubles me to hear that he probably wasn't thinking he was really going to win because
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that makes me think he wasn't seriously approaching being, possibly being the president of the United
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When I left the polls, I, I told my wife and I said it publicly to the large crowd and
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line that was outside our polling place in Texas.
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And my, my statement was, I voted for Trump and she did too.
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And she was proud of me, but I, I'm just, I just think there was a, yeah, about him that
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It was, uh, it was, it was tough and kind of still is in some ways.
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You're listening to the Glenn Beck program with Pat Gray and Jeffy.
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And we've been kind of musing about, uh, what a fascinating situation this is with Donald
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And looking back at the 2016 race of the people that he rightly claims he destroyed, it was
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And Steve Bannon doesn't under, didn't understand that winning isn't as easy as he made it look.
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And so, and he called them the most, uh, most talented field ever assembled.
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And I kind of believe that I do believe that I do believe that there were some great candidates
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I got to tell you, I don't think he might've tainted them to the point where they can't
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I honestly believe that there's one, there's not one name, one person you go through the
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list, name one person who you think could run in 2020 from that group.
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No, but, but, but definitely this, I mean, it was the culmination of him.
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He's, I mean, I look as far as presidentially speaking.
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No, as far as a presidential candidate, I think he'll be fine.
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He'd be great as Texas senator, great senator from the state of Texas.
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I just don't think he has a chance to win the presidency.
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These guys should do exactly what they're doing now, but to run for president, my opinion,
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Now I know you've got a special place in your heart for him.
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Lindsey Graham shouldn't have been in the, in the race in the first place.
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He never had a chance, but he certainly doesn't now.
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Mike Huckabee completely destroyed politically.
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And then threw him a bone by hiring his daughter.
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I don't know that I feel the same way about Jindal.
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Didn't get involved in all of the back and forth.
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I think Rand Paul is done as far as presidency.
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Trump did such a good job of destroying these guys.
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Do they not seem kind of tainted as far as the presidential run is concerned?
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You know, Rick Santorum, I thought, was tainted in the 2016 race.
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I can't put my finger on what happened to Santorum because I was a big supporter in 2012.
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And he ran last time and ended up, you know, he was with Lindsey at the kids table.
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I mean, those guys, look, those guys are all smart men and they're in positions that,
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you know, that they definitely worked hard to get.
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But after this campaign, this last campaign for president, Donald Trump.
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He may have dropped out early enough to have not gotten the wrath of Trump.
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I don't have the same feeling about Jindal and Walker as they do the rest of this field.
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I don't know that they have enough panache to be present.
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You know, on the Democrat side, who's got a bright, bright future is Lincoln Chafee.
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It was downplayed by the media, who doesn't want us to adopt that system.
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If we could get it out there, if he could get the word out there and explain it better.
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No, but in reality, I think most of the GOP field is done and tainted for 2020.
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And if President Trump weren't to run again, the only person I can really think has a really
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good shot and has been untainted from any of this is Ben Sasse.
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I think Ben Sasse would be a great alternative.
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That's my feeling right now is that, yes, Donald Trump burned down the rest of the field.
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America looks at the rest of most of them, barring a couple of people that we mentioned.
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I think, at least through my eyes, looking at that campaign field up on stage.
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I mean, I'm looking at all those guys in my head right now thinking, not one of them I would vote for.
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President Trump, then candidate Trump, did such an effective job with these guys that I can't, I can't look at Marco Rubio anymore without thinking little Marco.
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And it's difficult for me, for me alone, to see Ted Cruz, who is a senator who I voted for here in this great state of Texas.
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I mean, it's a strange and interesting phenomenon.
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Other people have tried it and they lose and they get looked at like they're complete dirtbags.
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Tommy in New York, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
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Hey, I just wanted to say in line with what you're talking about, I think everyone owes
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Donald Trump a debt of gratitude for winning this election and stumbling into the presidency
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and foiling a plot for a coup to take over our government, our American way of life,
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and turning it into some type of socialist Marxist state that Barack Obama had already started for eight years.
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And Hillary would have absolutely continued that.
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She would have absolutely continued that trend.
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And Hillary definitely would have, you know, I mean, she was, that was already a done deal.
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So, with anyone else running against Hillary, it would have been, you know, I mean, very
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I mean, he's done, look, America, we talked about it yesterday.
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You know, while you don't necessarily, I mean, make America great again, while I'm not, you
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know, crazy about that, and Donald doesn't make me, you know, feel like America is the,
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but he does make me feel like America is the United States of America, the greatest
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And you didn't, you certainly didn't have that feeling with Obama.
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Andrew in North Carolina, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
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What does this change about what we know about Trump?
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Would you rather have him in who, you know, I listened to Morning Joe spout about how much
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he doesn't like to read and, you know, how dumb he is.
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Would you rather have him in who's doing a pretty decent job or Clinton who likes to
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And if you look at it for 50,000 feet, you know, probably shouldn't bring up Obama, but
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he had, they had to have a full-time handler live in the White House to keep him on, on
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You know, he's, he watched a lot of SportsCenter of, you know, they're just human beings that
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Trump's not perfect, but I think he's doing a pretty good job.
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And I think this is long-term going to strengthen him, this divorce with Bannon.
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Pleasantly surprised so far with the job he's done.
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I mean, there's things I don't like, but there is, on the other hand, much to like.
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I just wanted to comment that while the Constitution gives us rights, we have the right, the freedom
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And oftentimes when you take an employment with somebody, you waive your right to freedom
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You, you agree to confidentiality, or you might agree to non-compete, a non-compete agreement,
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or you can waive your right to speedy trial or waive your right to an attorney.
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Well, you can in the fact that you can be sued for certain things, but you cannot be
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stopped from voicing, from voicing your, your opinion on, on politics, certainly.
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Nobody can stop you, but if you were employed in the White House and you signed a confidentiality
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agreement, you waived your right to speak about what went on and that.
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Well, confidentiality, though, is different from criticism.
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You, and I don't know that anybody can actually, you know, you can sign all kinds of agreements
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Like, I can, I can sign a, uh, a non-compete and then, uh, get a job somewhere else if this
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company doesn't continue to pay me, because there's almost no judge on the planet who would
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Some of these agreements just aren't worth the paper they're written on, and I don't see
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how you could ever stop somebody's, uh, right to criticize the government.
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Nobody can criticize the government, you're correct.
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But when you sign an agreement for, as terms of employment, just like all of the people
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that are in, um, the CIA and all of these agencies, they sign agreements not to speak.
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You, I mean, you always have the right to your opinion, but you can't give away state secrets
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Those kinds of things are understandable, that kind of confidentiality.
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But when it comes to saying, hey, uh, I don't think they're doing a good job or this president
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With my understanding, I haven't read the book, but with my understanding that he was making
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statements about things that were going on in the, in the, um, administration.
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The book hasn't come out yet, so I'm not sure how deeply he goes.
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I mean, that's our argument, uh, or at least, you know, a little bit of our, uh, uh, fighting
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Is that, uh, you can write whatever you want, but, uh, you signed a deal to play on the field.
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So we're going to tell you what you can do while you're on the field.
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Um, I, I was, uh, a little late coming in on the conversation about, um, all the past candidates
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And I was sitting here thinking, um, well, first of all, I was like a never, I was a never
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And there was a meme going around with the kid with the kitchen knife and about to put
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And, but the, um, the thing that, uh, I was remembering, uh, Carly Fiorina would like
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But she was, she was amazing as a VP with, she was actually, she was the only one.
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She was the only one that really kind of stunned Trump and really sort of scored some serious
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I don't know that she got, uh, speaking of running in 2020 though, I don't think, I don't
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She's kind of more like a Jindalyn Walker to me.
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00:34:54.360
Been kind of musing about, you know, in this battle between Donald Trump and Steve Bannon.
00:34:59.320
You know Trump wins that war every day, all day.
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Just as he won the war with 17 mostly really respectable and formidable candidates.
00:35:10.940
Yeah, I mean, I don't know that any of them win.
00:35:15.100
Mentioned the ones who came out the most unscathed.
00:35:17.280
Maybe Jindal, Walker, and perhaps Carly Fiorita.
00:35:20.620
Now, the one thing, you know, we were talking for the first time, I think, since the birth
00:35:28.700
We mentioned him possibly still having a chance.
00:35:42.720
Because you and I cited that the entire campaign as the reason we just can't quite get there.
00:35:50.180
You remember the speech where he took the drink of water?
00:35:54.220
Because he was touted as like the, he was the front runner guy, right?
00:35:59.800
And through the whole speech, it was water, water, water, water.
00:36:34.640
It's Pat Gray and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
00:36:38.900
We've been fascinated by this battle between Donald Trump and Steve Bannon and have kind
00:36:48.300
of been musing about Trump's interesting way of winning the battles he wages.
00:36:54.200
It's really something that I don't think I've ever seen anything like it.
00:36:58.780
We've probably mentioned that multiple times during the campaign, but as you look at perspective
00:37:05.040
candidates for next time, if the president doesn't run for a second term and his wife
00:37:09.640
actually said she doesn't want him to or he won't.
00:37:14.160
A few months or two ago, she was interviewed and she thought maybe that he wouldn't, that
00:37:24.260
And that's, it's tough to beat in this kind of limelight.
00:37:28.820
I mean, while she's been great as a first lady, I mean, she's done nothing to diminish
00:37:34.280
that role, but it's not the role that she wants.
00:37:38.720
I'm sure it wasn't her lifelong dream to have this kind of scrutiny.
00:37:45.500
So as we look back at the field of 2016, it just feels to me and I think mostly to Jeffy
00:37:51.520
that there's a lot of tainted candidates who probably wouldn't have much of a shot at
00:37:58.700
And I guess that could change because things change dramatically overnight sometimes.
00:38:02.880
But I, you know, we've, we've gone down the list and we've maybe, you know, brought a
00:38:09.360
Cause when I was first thinking about it earlier this morning, I didn't think there was one
00:38:13.580
that did not be, get tainted from the Trump scorched earth pain.
00:38:20.460
Cause you look, I looked at those, I think about those guys now and I'm like, I like
00:38:28.560
If they're still in office, if they're doing things, that's great.
00:38:36.000
If I had the opportunity, Ted Cruz, I voted for once.
00:38:38.920
I'd vote for him again, give him the opportunity, but not for president.
00:38:43.700
Well, yeah, I don't know that we'll ever have that chance again.
00:38:46.120
Cause I, they must sense that something's changed since last they ran.
00:38:53.820
I don't think there's any way he'd throw his hat in the ring again.
00:38:58.540
Uh, Chris Christie did a good job of destroying his own political career.
00:39:08.980
Would you want John Kasich to, to ever run again?
00:39:18.540
It maybe, I don't, I think he will run, but has he been tainted a little bit too?
00:39:27.460
So my thought is maybe an outside chance for little Marco Rubio, although he's been tainted
00:39:35.520
Uh, then you think Bobby Jindal perhaps and Walker, the guys who got out of it fairly early
00:39:40.260
and missed a lot of the salvos from, from president Trump.
00:39:44.680
Maybe have some shot, but I think the guy, uh, best suited to run if, uh, president Trump
00:39:51.020
doesn't run for a second term would be, would be banned sass because he was completely out
00:39:56.260
Now he's commented, commented on Trump, uh, but I don't think he's been steamrolled.
00:40:01.760
No, Donald has not taken, tried to, uh, tried to burn him at all.
00:40:05.800
And for the Democrats, I don't even, I can't even think, you know, you, obviously they're
00:40:10.820
going to go to Elizabeth, uh, uh, Warren, Warren, and they're going to go to, they're going
00:40:15.940
to try to convince Joe Biden to, to come out of his mouth mouth balls.
00:40:19.540
I mean, he's been packed away and forgotten, right?
00:40:23.280
These guys, I mean, Bernie Sanders, what is he going to be pushing 80?
00:40:26.820
We're talking about Orrin Hatch retiring at 83, right?
00:40:30.260
And they're talking about replacing him with a 70 year old man.
00:40:37.440
Wherever, whatever age you're at, that older age looks, doesn't look as bad as it did when
00:40:55.560
And you know, we'll hear if that, if that is the case.
00:41:13.580
But, uh, you know, is it worth having in an office?
00:41:18.280
You don't look a day past your mid one hundreds.
00:41:24.860
And do you, the mid one hundreds are like the mid one hundreds of the old.
00:41:29.360
Hey, man, I remember the mid one hundreds, man.
00:41:33.680
Uh, Jim in North Carolina, uh, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Jeffy.
00:41:43.720
What really irritates me is the way that they denigrate Trump and his intelligence.
00:41:49.100
And I was telling the, uh, the other gentlemen that back about 20 years ago, 22 years ago
00:42:05.280
There were zoning problems, legal problems, the city.
00:42:09.900
And he came in and some of them are called intractable problems that they'd been working
00:42:22.500
Um, we walked out of that meeting with legal issues that even through a potential lawsuit
00:42:29.080
from a homeowner's association, uh, in, in the morning that had just come up and he
00:42:35.720
And it was amazing to see his negotiating skills.
00:42:38.720
And I remember him looking at the Miami's planning director saying, I don't want this
00:42:44.040
anymore because I don't want the city council to have to vote on it.
00:42:53.160
So Trump and the planning director, after everything was done, left that meeting and went and saw
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And to, for these media types and the people that work with Trump to say that he is anything
00:43:09.400
I mean, he went to Wharton school and I, I vote for Cruz, by the way, I'm a, I'm a cruiser,
00:43:19.120
And he graduated from the school of Penn school of business, Wharton, which is an amazing school,
00:43:27.800
And to call him anything less than intelligent, uh, but watching him at the table, he was
00:43:37.480
Uh, he broke it down where the, uh, other people were trying to complicate it.
00:43:44.140
He knew that would, uh, he was give and take and he won and he got everything we needed.
00:43:50.080
And then he turned around and sold the project before he even built it.
00:43:55.480
Jim, I don't think there's any question that, uh, there's intelligence with Donald Trump
00:44:00.600
because you don't become a billionaire by being a moron.
00:44:04.280
But I think there are things he just doesn't care about and hasn't paid any attention to.
00:44:11.960
And, and those things are the things that I was concerned with during the campaign.
00:44:20.420
There's just, if some of these things were beyond his interest level and I think now he's
00:44:25.560
interested and I think, you know, he's obviously starting to ramp up and, and understand the
00:44:34.480
And an example of that is, uh, the interview that we played from, uh, from the SC cup show
00:44:39.300
where he was like, we got to the fourth amendment and Trump was like, I got to work.
00:44:49.880
And I believe that when the fourth amendment comes up or the second amendment, he'll be,
00:44:54.700
um, uh, right on top of it and be, uh, making good decisions.
00:45:04.280
Um, I, I, it's tough with Trump because, you know, clearly during the course of the campaign,
00:45:10.880
we found there were weaknesses in his knowledge of certain things that are important when
00:45:16.880
you rise to the office of the president of the United States.
00:45:19.600
But I think since he's been brought up to speed on a lot of that.
00:45:23.320
And again, we, we, and he's done a surprisingly good job.
00:45:27.300
And we also talked about, you know, gee, he'll surround himself with some people that
00:45:32.460
do have the depth of that knowledge and can give him, you know, help him through it, which
00:45:49.840
So this has been bothering me for quite a while that watching Lois Lerner be questioned in
00:45:54.760
front of Congress and, uh, she's working for, you know, IRS, but the U.S. government.
00:46:02.680
Well, you got to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
00:46:06.500
Well, when you're brought before Congress and they're questioning you about your specific
00:46:11.120
job, and if you have to plead the fifth, because what you're doing on your job may incriminate
00:46:18.400
you, shouldn't you automatically be discharged from your position?
00:46:31.140
You're a government employee and you're pleading the fifth?
00:46:39.940
Now, people would scream that that's a violation.
00:46:43.120
People would scream about that being a violation, but you don't, you don't have a right to keep
00:46:46.840
You just have a right not to be prosecuted for something like that.
00:46:57.160
Brian in Oklahoma, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
00:46:59.680
Hey, I kind of think you guys are possibly dead wrong on Rand Paul because a couple of
00:47:08.200
First of all, he's got his father's libertarian base back in him.
00:47:15.720
That didn't go very far for him in 2016, though.
00:47:22.820
Second of all, he's taken over for Tom Coburn on the kind of government waste thing.
00:47:26.600
He put out a great thing the past couple of weeks.
00:47:28.480
We didn't point out there's a ridiculous government waste.
00:47:31.380
Three, he's been like our champion for privacy.
00:47:36.200
Right now, they're trying to give a permanent extension to the spying bill, and he's taken
00:47:43.200
And also, he's been our best guy for the economics.
00:47:45.740
He was willing to take a stand on getting the budget done and did the stand-in where
00:47:56.160
He's the kind of guy, and I'm telling you, if you put him with somebody like Trey Gowdy
00:48:05.040
Or, you know, the thing I love about Carly Fiorina was she was a CEO.
00:48:09.440
So it was CEO versus CEO when you watched them to argue.
00:48:14.320
Because Trump's a business guy, and when he's taken on Fiorina, she was head of HP.
00:48:18.400
So it was like in a negotiating table where, you know, watching them two go at it.
00:48:24.300
I mean, you make a good ticket there with one of those guys.
00:48:26.120
You may be right about Rand Paul running again and not being scorched from the Trump campaign,
00:48:32.800
but to run against—you just mentioned the possibility of him, say, running against Trump
00:48:40.020
No, no, I don't think any Republican would primary Trump.
00:48:44.520
I think he was marginalized by the people who were moderating the debate.
00:48:48.560
I don't think—every time he started to make a good point, they moved away from him.
00:48:54.120
Those kind of guys were always the last ones to get a good question and the last ones to
00:48:59.320
What is up, though, do you think, with the beating he got in his own yard?
00:49:08.740
Is that—it's interesting to me that a guy beat you within an inch of your life, essentially.
00:49:18.560
And the guy told him why he did it, but he will not—he will not disclose that.
00:49:24.740
That's such—I mean, not that that disqualifies him from a presidential run.
00:49:29.220
It just—it's bothersome to me, because is there something to hide there?
00:49:35.660
Where he lives, I suspect the kind of people that he may be, you know, some of his neighbors.
00:49:42.000
Let's just say liberalism is a mental disorder, and I'll leave it at that.
00:50:11.200
I was really surprised that President Trump refrained from tweeting yesterday.
00:50:23.160
I didn't know if he was even capable of doing that.
00:50:29.620
I mean, he didn't tweet until late in the morning.
00:50:33.720
I wonder if somebody finally convinced him, you know, tweeting about everything that's
00:50:44.020
Donald Jr., on the other hand, tweeted quite a bit.
00:50:47.340
Steve had the honor of working in the White House, according to Don Jr.'s tweet, and serving
00:50:52.440
Unfortunately, he squandered that privilege and turned that opportunity into a nightmare
00:50:57.720
of backstabbing, harassing, leaking, lying, and undermining the president.
00:51:07.600
In earlier tweets, Don Jr. said, Andrew Breitbart would be ashamed of the division in lies
00:51:19.080
So maybe he just left the tweeting to his son, thinking, yeah, he's taking care of that part.
00:51:29.880
And I think that's also, I think that's also, especially after Bannon was played nice,
00:51:39.800
nice, and tried to say that, you know, he was still friends.
00:51:48.080
Yeah, on the Breitbart News, things were serious.
00:51:55.640
Donald in Ohio, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
00:52:05.720
First question, is there any chance that, let's say things go well in the next couple
00:52:10.460
years, we hold the Senate and the House, is there any chance Trump would say, hey, I'm
00:52:16.260
only going to run one term, I'm endorsing tense to run, and I want Congress to impose
00:52:32.420
I think he could ride into the sunset as, you know, going out with one term and saying,
00:52:38.100
look, I'm going to put a limit on my term, and I want Congress to do the same.
00:52:45.120
Look what serving in the office of the presidency has done for other people afterwards.
00:52:48.900
They've increased their wealth exponentially as a result of the presidency.
00:52:55.800
An already super successful billionaire businessman, what will that do for him if he just does
00:53:01.440
the one term and then turns his thoughts to his own business?
00:53:06.140
And we had forgotten about Pence, the possibility of Pence.
00:53:10.920
If Donald does that, what would he call for it?
00:53:14.760
So he says, I'm running one term, and I'm going to back Mike Pence, and he's my vice president.
00:53:19.880
Does Pence walk in under the Trump umbrella, or do people fight Pence, like Ben Sasse and
00:53:26.320
some of the people that we think are scorched earthers?
00:53:31.680
He'd have an inside track, though, especially if he stays on the good side of Donald Trump.
00:53:37.720
Randy in North Carolina, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
00:53:44.800
Does anybody else know that you're Pat Gray, other than me?
00:53:54.580
I've been listening here going, hey, what the...
00:54:08.660
However, and I'm more than pleased with what I'm seeing, but that's another subject.
00:54:21.880
If he sticks to whatever negative rhetoric he had in the book for Trump, although he didn't
00:54:30.000
Well, as long as he sticks to the criticism in the book, the media is going to love him.
00:54:48.380
And a lot of conservatives are not fans of Bannon.
00:54:52.520
And, you know, Jabba the Hutt or, you know, whatever, but he bothers me in many ways.
00:55:01.320
However, I'm not a fan, but I'm very, very curious, and I'm waiting with bated breath
00:55:07.200
to see CNN turn him into, unless they already have, an angel.
00:55:14.120
It's a good observation because if he sticks to criticizing Trump, oh, he's going to be a
00:55:57.780
French President Emmanuel Macron has said he's going to overhaul media laws in France this
00:56:06.340
He's going to fight the spread of fake news on social media.
00:56:17.060
Who gets to decide what's fake news and what's not?
00:56:24.580
When the head of the country is deciding what's fake news and what isn't.
00:56:27.220
He'll pick a couple people that he believes are smart enough to decide, and that's their
00:56:34.780
He's openly accused TV channel RT, the Russian Today, Russia Today station, which is a pile
00:56:41.140
of crap, but he accused them of sowing disinformation about him.
00:56:45.600
He says, if we want to protect liberal democracies, we must have strong legislation.
00:56:51.960
Man, that's the way that oppression begins right there.
00:56:57.420
Speaking of France and French, this is incredible news.
00:57:01.620
And I can't believe we haven't discussed it until now.
00:57:15.540
And it's funny that you were reminded of that, talking about France.
00:57:21.120
Because especially since French fries have nothing to do with France.
00:57:33.380
They apparently serve this overseas, but they haven't done it here until soon.
00:57:39.620
They're test marketing it right now in West Virginia and California.
00:57:47.840
So they've already got the menu, the dollar menu items, the range from breakfast tacos to cinnamon
00:57:54.480
Now they're bringing in the French fries that will also come with a side of nacho cheese.
00:58:03.280
Or you can opt for the supreme adding pico de gallo beef and sour cream on top.
00:58:10.520
But some fries and some nacho cheese and three or four tacos, you're pretty much good.
00:58:24.540
It's giving opportunities to businesses to really expand and grow and offer people French
00:58:33.620
George in Pennsylvania, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
00:58:43.240
What you're seeing here is I think Trump is acting as an executive, somebody who's taken
00:58:50.880
However, he's learning where his tools are, how he can go about getting things done, learning
00:58:59.680
And I figured that the first six months, eight months were going to be very difficult to figure
00:59:04.900
out what he can do, what he can control directly, what he has to make deals with and all that.
00:59:11.760
But I think it's going to smooth out as it goes here because he realizes he can't have
00:59:18.720
And that's why you're seeing things like the tax plan got passed.
00:59:23.900
But also, I think the tax plan got passed because if it didn't, Republicans were going
00:59:28.320
to be absolutely decimated going into the midterms.
00:59:32.140
And I don't think that that's going to be the case this time.
00:59:38.940
It is possible, though, that the tax plan, the tax bill won't be quite enough to offset
00:59:47.440
what everybody expects is going to be a favorable outcome for the Democrats in November.
00:59:55.540
And perceptions can change completely in this amount of time.
01:00:05.100
Listening to you talk about the French fries at Taco Bell made me really reminisce for
01:00:16.640
So I think you guys are giving Trump too much credit for decimating the Republican field.
01:00:22.180
You know, the way I see it, what he did was, well, he took out, who did he take out?
01:00:31.560
And he left the conservatives to split the vote.
01:00:34.840
I mean, guys, at the very end, had Marco Rubio not been in Florida or even Ben Carson gotten
01:00:42.400
out before Texas, Cruz would have gotten the super majority that he needed in Texas and picked
01:00:50.980
Cruz could have beaten Trump if he didn't have 10 other conservatives siphoning votes
01:00:56.840
I mean, what did Trump wind up with, 30-some percent of the take every time?
01:01:04.140
I still think that a conservative could beat him if there aren't 15 conservatives taking
01:01:12.000
At the end, though, at the end, it was just Trump, Cruz, and Kasich.
01:01:24.940
He was the only conservative at that time when that Super Tuesday happened where he had to
01:01:29.840
win some of the states and couldn't quite get enough of it done.
01:01:34.620
I mean, we underestimated this guy the entire campaign.
01:01:39.700
And I just don't want to do that anymore because we were proven completely wrong.
01:01:52.240
But when I started thinking of all of them up on that stage again, and even with Carly
01:01:57.340
and Bobby Jindal and maybe Walker, they're done.
01:02:06.620
I don't see how, I don't see them winning over America anymore.
01:02:11.560
Actually, it wouldn't be an option between, let's say, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump anyway.
01:02:16.440
Because they never challenge a sitting president in the field.
01:02:20.260
So, he would have to be completely out of it for that to ever happen.
01:02:22.360
And that's kind of the point where if he steps down and whoever he puts his hand on, whoever
01:02:30.420
I mean, that's still going to be a tough road to go up against him, right?
01:02:33.880
But you probably have a better chance against him than anyone else.
01:02:40.620
You know, I mean, you still might be able to pull off Pete and Pence.
01:02:59.360
As far as helping Americans understand who he is and what he stands for.
01:03:02.940
Because then you're up against Pence and Trump.
01:03:13.460
I know I'm talking to Pat and the company kick toy, Jeffy.
01:03:26.600
Yeah, we'll have to put that on his office door.
01:03:38.300
I mean, if Richard Nixon, remember, you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.
01:03:45.860
But I think Cruz could run at some future time.
01:03:49.680
I don't think he could run against Trump or Pence.
01:03:56.220
And by the way, you guys said that Bobby Jendal was the one who drank the water during the speech.
01:04:17.880
That was the one where he was speaking from Florida.
01:04:19.760
I got there where he needed that bottle of water and he was waiting for it.
01:04:23.100
Pat, could I take some liberties with the company kick toy if I might?
01:04:33.780
Well, I remember my grandfather taking me to it.
01:04:36.740
Yeah, I remember the tree of woe when they tied him to the tree of woe.
01:04:42.020
Yeah, I appreciate you donating your family tree for the prop department there.
01:04:48.560
Anything I could do for the cause, I'm here for you.
01:04:50.920
The company and listener kick toy, which is fantastic.
01:04:56.100
James in Texas, welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
01:05:02.320
I think you're a little off base with the whole Bannon audience going to turn on him.
01:05:12.200
I've been listening to the show the last couple of months because I can't handle Fox News anymore.
01:05:19.800
And, I mean, like this morning, for example, it was one after another.
01:05:23.740
Everybody's all outraged about the Trump DACA thing.
01:05:31.280
I'm not sure we said anything about Bannon's audience.
01:05:45.820
What is happening, though, is he's being destroyed with the American people by Trump.
01:05:54.920
I'm not familiar enough with Steve Bannon's audience to know, or that he...
01:06:00.340
I wasn't even aware he had a show until there was a news story about what he said on it.
01:06:08.040
Well, he had the show before he started, before he went with Trump.
01:06:12.140
Yeah, he's got some kind of relationship with SiriusXA.
01:06:28.960
You know, the stories all say he's back running it now.
01:06:38.500
So I don't know anything about whether he wins or loses an audience there.
01:06:42.400
And maybe he realized, look, you know, if you want to go that direction, maybe you use that
01:06:47.660
in the direction of how he was, you know, playing nice, nice later yesterday, late last night
01:06:53.080
with Donald Trump, realizing, you know, if I go on my radio show and I've been a Trump
01:06:58.460
guy all this time, now all these Trump people are going to be coming...
01:07:19.080
But anyway, to the point, Warren Hatch, I'm no fan of his.
01:07:27.040
And living in Utah, I've seen, I was contracted and did work on a home in Park City for a gentleman
01:07:35.620
It was probably, you know, well, I won't get into what the home value was, but it was...
01:07:42.560
But, you know, you just generally get the feeling that he can just buy his way into this, you know,
01:07:50.620
And it's frustrating because, you know, we just don't...
01:07:54.380
It doesn't seem like we're getting the option to pick who we want to represent.
01:07:58.020
I mean, I don't think Romney's actually officially announced, though, has he?
01:08:01.000
So we're just speculating that he's going to run for Hatch's vacated seat.
01:08:06.120
I mean, that's everything you hear in the news here.
01:08:09.420
Is there somebody you have in mind that would be a better choice?
01:08:20.640
I wanted to ask Jeffy, how do you waltz through life so freely with no shame?
01:08:31.760
I was kind of on your side for the whole Utah-Fornia thing.
01:08:35.240
I thought that was going to go in a good direction for you, but...
01:08:53.300
Immediately following this broadcast, make sure you tune in for my show, Pat Gray Unleashed,
01:09:04.600
Oh, tomorrow we've got kind of a special by popular demand show coming back on Pat Gray Unleashed.
01:09:11.180
Right before the Christmas break, we did a show of the best audio clips of the year and past
01:09:18.640
years, and heard a lot of good things about it.
01:09:22.100
So we're bringing that back tomorrow on Pat Gray Unleashed.
01:09:28.660
You know, Mike in Utah made a good point, though, and I will cut...
01:09:31.380
You know, I know he had to get his little stick in on me.
01:09:34.340
I wanted to say before he left that, you know, he makes a good point about not being
01:09:41.100
You know, Oren Hatch says goodbye, annoyance Mitt, Mitt walks into the office.
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People still have the right to vote for whomever they want.
01:09:56.400
Let's step out on our own and go a different way.
01:10:21.120
If we stopped accepting it, it would change, wouldn't it?
01:10:36.100
I happen to think that Donald Trump decided to run for president, and he decided to win
01:10:44.100
I saw a large segment of the Washington Correspondents' Dinner, where Obama had invited Trump and Melania
01:10:55.240
And then they spent the whole two hours, Obama and all the comedians, roasting Trump.
01:11:03.700
If you were watching his face, as the hour went on, by the end of it, he was clenching
01:11:17.220
And, you know, and the first person that told Donald Trump that if he ever ran for president,
01:11:23.140
he would win and she would vote for him was Pat Nixon.
01:11:27.520
Pat Nixon told him that way back after they left the White House.
01:12:04.940
She's, of course, she's the replacement for Matt Lauer.
01:12:12.440
And she's still doing the Hoda and Kathy Lee or Kathy Lee and Hoda show or whatever you call that.
01:12:22.160
Jenna Bush, the daughter, is on NBC a lot now, too.
01:12:25.900
She's on the morning show as well as this one, too.
01:12:29.320
Maybe she's just filling in for Kathy Lee today.
01:12:32.680
I mean, it's but so it's it's fun to see Jenna on NBC.
01:12:40.540
Unless Jenna's liberal and I don't really know her politics.
01:12:50.180
She's I just saw her on the magic box in my living room where because she's not actually
01:12:59.400
in the house, but I can see her anyway on this magic box from somewhere else.
01:13:10.680
She's not there, but I can see her anyway on the on the magic box.
01:13:19.420
We've been talking a lot about the the Trump ban.
01:13:30.760
Who's going to get custody of, say, Michael Savage?
01:13:37.140
You know, because he's such a favored child of both of them.
01:13:41.480
It's going to be sad to see one of them part with Michael.
01:13:47.400
It's heartbreaking, you know, to see these kinds of divorces happen and what that does
01:13:51.600
Most of the time, Michael, most of the time, children are resilient.
01:13:58.100
We do not really know because they certainly don't.
01:14:09.320
Anyway, we're going to talk about this sometime during the course of the day.
01:14:12.480
This 10 year old founder of a drag club for kids.
01:14:16.880
You know, if there's one thing I think we all felt like was missing in America, it was
01:14:35.140
His name is Desmond Napoles, but he's better known by his drag name.
01:14:42.580
I got to see if this is the kid I know because there was a there's a couple of them that are
01:14:49.600
I mean, they perform and they do a really good job.
01:14:54.200
Also, Attorney General Jeff Sessions is rescinding the Obama era policy that kind of paved the
01:15:00.520
way for all of these legalized marijuana states to be left alone and let them flourish.
01:15:11.840
He is apparently according to people familiar with the plan.
01:15:17.360
And he's about to change that good luck and maybe go after these states.
01:15:31.820
Not sure what the state's rights outcome would be on that.
01:15:38.520
We'll see if, in fact, as is widely thought, federal law kind of supersedes the state law.
01:15:53.140
Everybody's trying to walk that fine line to still keep their funding, even though I
01:15:57.500
think a judge already said that they couldn't cut the funding to the sanctuary cities.
01:16:02.820
And I think a judge already said, no, you're not going to cut the funding to the cities.
01:16:07.380
So that's out the window, at least for now, unless they want to go up against, you know,
01:16:12.940
But a lot of these cities that are afraid of that are saying, especially, I don't know,
01:16:17.500
one that I'm familiar with, I don't know, Dallas, where the mayor says that we're not
01:16:24.460
He says we're not a sanctuary city, but everything that they do makes them a sanctuary city.
01:16:34.900
Because they don't want to lose their federal funding.
01:16:39.520
Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program with Pat and Jeffy.
01:16:47.820
You know, I just had to call and say, I'm just a little bit irritated with, I guess,
01:16:54.680
your little bit of a change of attitude since the Christmas break.
01:16:58.580
And I don't know whether it's a vibe I am wrong on, but I feel like since Christmas break.
01:17:06.060
I feel like you've really embraced kind of Trump as a person and not differentiated between
01:17:14.400
what maybe his administration has done and who he is.
01:17:18.640
I remember a Facebook post from you in the fall before the election, and it was fantastic,
01:17:29.460
I just feel like your tone has changed a bit and was wondering if you would vote, if the
01:17:33.960
election was held tomorrow, would you vote for Trump based on this past year?
01:17:42.660
The same Republican candidates or it's Trump and Hillary?
01:17:54.660
I see there's too many variables, but probably not because my attitude certainly hasn't changed
01:18:07.600
What we have said since the election is we're going to give him a chance to see what he does
01:18:17.820
And as far as his policies and some of the things he's accomplished, I think he's pleasantly
01:18:30.480
And the post really was, I don't remember exactly when that was, whether it was before
01:18:44.960
I mean, those were, those were, those were tough times.
01:18:48.880
But when you talk about his Supreme Court nomination.
01:18:55.040
What, I mean, what, what are your impressions of the Trump administration so far?
01:19:02.120
My impression, I'm, I'll give him credit when credit is due, but I think you need to be
01:19:06.960
very careful as to not to give the man Trump the credit because I don't think his character
01:19:13.620
follows to the success of the policies that you are pleased with.
01:19:20.740
I just, we need to be careful to give Trump too much credit because I think he's going
01:19:32.100
What I do support is his Supreme Court nomination, the EPA regulations he's overturned, getting
01:19:38.940
out of, getting us out of the Paris Accord, the TPP treaty, giving state lands back to states
01:19:45.680
like Utah, huge gains in the war on ISIS, giving a pay raise to the troops.
01:19:52.220
He's declared Jerusalem, the capital of Israel.
01:19:57.900
Now, as far as his tweets, and we've, we've continued to talk about the fact that his tweets,
01:20:06.580
But that's kind of where, where, where Tanya's coming from, right, though, is that, you know,
01:20:10.320
he's, we're giving credit to, you know, the man instead of the administration.
01:20:17.860
I mean, Trump is, he's actually done these things.
01:20:20.040
Is he the guy, or is he the guy, or is he just appointed people that are really doing
01:20:28.660
I mean, I, I have not changed in my, in my belief that he wasn't the best man for this
01:20:37.080
And, and would I vote for a similar person under similar circumstances?
01:20:44.440
Only if there were only, that was the only, if it really was a binary choice, I would make
01:20:50.160
But if there's anybody else, if there's anybody else, if no, because I think it's my duty
01:20:58.180
And so, uh, if there was a third party choice that I liked, I would absolutely go third party
01:21:11.120
Speaking of that, cause the third party, we had hoped for, um, a better choice.
01:21:16.160
But what I would, what I would say though, Tanya is my attitude today doesn't reflect
01:21:24.380
It's, it's the concrete policies you can put your finger on.
01:21:39.900
I, I, we try to be consistent and, and that's what we said as soon as I think the election
01:21:46.940
And on November 9th, we said, okay, he, he won.
01:21:52.340
I mean, when we were taking such heat was because of the, uh, the primaries, right?
01:21:57.800
Because we, we did, we wanted to step up against the primaries and vote for the person
01:22:04.100
And then what brought this all on, of course, as we were talking earlier today about, could
01:22:08.320
any of them stand up today and run for president?
01:22:15.080
Uh, Donald Trump has burned and scorched that group forever.
01:22:24.020
So if you're, if you're misconstruing the fact that we're saying that these candidates
01:22:28.080
are tainted by Trump, uh, that is not, that's not an endorsement of doing that to these
01:22:34.740
guys because I, I'd love to have a guy like Ted Cruz to vote for again.
01:22:39.200
I mean, he was, I think we made it pretty clear.
01:22:44.100
I thought he was a better candidate than Ronald Reagan.
01:22:49.500
I mean, he was no Jim Gilmore, but no, but who is?
01:23:06.880
Um, I really like what Trump's been doing so far, but I think if Ben Carson had been
01:23:12.920
true to his principles, Ted Cruz would be the president.
01:23:17.860
You know, you're the second person today that brought that up.
01:23:24.280
That's where Trump took off on the lion Ted thing, right?
01:23:28.680
And Ben knew that Cruz was not responsible for that CNN.
01:23:36.060
And he sided with Trump, who was further away from his attitude and position and character
01:23:42.840
And if he had sided with Cruz instead, because Cruz is catching up.
01:23:51.940
That Ben Carson is at least as responsible as Donald Trump for the fact that that campaign
01:24:02.940
I mean, after that, after he played along, then Trump just destroyed him.
01:24:07.180
I mean, he threw him a bone and gave him a job.
01:24:10.420
So, I mean, thanks for playing along, but I mean, he destroyed him along the way.
01:24:40.400
Uh, especially since the book hasn't even come out.
01:24:42.600
We're just hearing excerpts, uh, about what Bannon apparently said in the book.
01:24:47.660
Kind of backed up, uh, in part by one of Donald Trump's former advisors, uh, Sam, um, the Noonan.
01:24:59.060
He, he was, he was, uh, interviewed yesterday by Essie Cupp and basically said some of the quotes weren't right, but the tone and the general feeling.
01:25:12.880
So, I, I'm kind of excited to see what comes out of this book.
01:25:18.880
Uh, and again, I, in this divorce between, between, uh, Trump and Bannon, who gets custody of the kids.
01:25:39.900
Because I'm winning the $550 million lotto on Saturday for the Powerball.
01:25:48.940
Well, you said the Powerball twice before during the course of this week.
01:25:53.360
Well, you don't want to win when it's so small.
01:26:13.320
Well, when you get to 500 million, you're starting to talk about real money.
01:26:20.720
Now, that may, you know, I might be able to live on that.
01:26:29.460
And then you're going to get another 45 taken out with state and federal tax.
01:26:39.880
I've got to wait for it to get up to a billion.
01:26:49.280
There's another gender studies professor who is trying to make a splash by saying that...
01:26:56.480
...that Disney princesses in Sleeping Beauty and Snow White were sexually assaulted.
01:27:03.920
The princes in those Disney movies are sex offenders.
01:27:23.760
He claims that two Disney movies portray obscene sexual acts on unconscious partners charged
01:27:35.700
He said, when you think rationally about Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, the tell of a princess
01:27:39.920
being woken up by the kiss of a prince, they're describing sexual assault on an unconscious
01:27:46.300
You might think I'm ruining the fantasy of it all, but these stories are promoting sexual
01:27:50.560
violence and I would like to see everyone be aware of it.
01:27:55.840
We've officially crossed the line into absolute, total, and complete civilization insanity.
01:28:23.740
I just disagreed with Tonya, the one caller, in regards to character about President Trump.
01:28:30.240
And you guys, too, I've listened to for a long time and was disappointed that you really
01:28:34.780
didn't support him when he was running for office.
01:28:37.180
I know over the years you said we had to hold our nose and pick Romney.
01:28:43.940
And, you know, obviously Trump has done a much better job since he's been in office being
01:28:48.660
a conservative than either one of those two guys.
01:28:50.500
And as far as character goes, look at all the stuff that's coming out with Gloria Allred
01:28:54.520
and her daughter and trying to pay people to smear these candidates and smear people
01:29:03.240
You look at the FBI and the CIA and the corruption that's going on there.
01:29:07.120
I think Trump's character, compared to a lot of these other organizations and people
01:29:11.860
within these organizations who are sending out tweets in favor of Hillary Clinton, this
01:29:15.560
struck guy, and some of these other people, his character is much higher than theirs.
01:29:24.460
And I think they go directly to the American people.
01:29:31.620
It's just an interesting tactic for the president of the United States to take.
01:29:36.060
And we've just generally, I think, considered that office above that type of thing.
01:29:54.600
But since he's been in office, he's done more to help the conservative party than the
01:30:09.880
And so that, and Tonya was trying to tie character to that, and obviously he sounded like she
01:30:13.420
wasn't a Trump supporter or a never-Trump type person.
01:30:16.800
And I think a lot of that character goes, he's done a lot himself personally with the
01:30:22.120
executive actions and the pipeline, the Gorsuch pick that you guys talked about, and a lot
01:30:29.760
of other things that he's done that I think go to character.
01:30:33.920
I mean, somebody with character would make those decisions.
01:30:36.980
The Paris Accord, and a lot of the things that he's done to reverse a lot of the things
01:30:40.960
that Obama put in place to get the economy stimulated and going.
01:30:52.040
Pat and Jeff, for Glenn, on the Glenn Beck Program.
01:31:24.600
That's some happy music there that's going to be stuck in your head forever, because
01:31:34.560
Meryl Streep, in the wake of all this sexual harassment stuff, and especially as it concerns
01:31:41.180
Dustin Hoffman, she's speaking out about her experience with him.
01:31:44.360
In 1979, when they filmed Kramer vs. Kramer, which I think won for the best picture in 79.
01:31:51.400
They might even have won Oscars for that movie.
01:31:53.240
Yeah, apparently he slapped her during a scene, and I don't know if it was called for in the
01:31:58.600
script or if he just improvised that, but it stuck, and it was in the movie.
01:32:03.800
And she says that he stepped over the line there.
01:32:08.760
When you're an actor, it's tricky when it comes to shooting scenes because you have to feel free.
01:32:13.300
I'm sure that I've inadvertently hurt people in physical scenes, but there's a certain amount of forgiveness in that.
01:32:18.700
On the first day, on the set of Kramer vs. Kramer, he slapped her, and she said that was overstepping.
01:32:28.740
So I guess she's confirming here that because of that, Dustin Hoffman is a dirtbag.
01:32:35.620
Then she goes on to talk about Harvey Weinstein.
01:32:41.020
Everybody in Hollywood knows about Harvey Weinstein.
01:32:47.340
Seth MacFarlane put it in one of his episodes of one of his shows.
01:32:52.740
And are you telling me Seth MacFarlane knows more about Harvey Weinstein than Meryl Streep does?
01:33:00.480
Yeah, well, there is, you know, one of the things, no.
01:33:04.580
Well, there were rumors, of course, but I dismissed them.
01:33:08.000
She's falling on that just like everyone else that was inside with Harvey that said,
01:33:12.340
look, we all knew he was a dirtbag, which I kind of buy a little bit.
01:33:23.480
She says, I didn't know that he was in any way of using people.
01:33:32.080
Why would anybody ask Meryl Streep to a hotel room?
01:33:39.500
But she says, I don't know how his life was conducted without people intimately knowing about it.
01:33:45.100
However, however, when it comes down to it, Streep doesn't want to hear about her silence.
01:33:54.100
She says, I want to hear about the silence of Melania Trump.
01:34:10.440
Okay, so you're there's allegations against the father and husband, the allegations that
01:34:21.340
We've actually heard him say things like on that tape with Bush that are despicable.
01:34:28.000
And we just heard from a woman in Iowa who's wondering about the tone today.
01:34:33.260
Well, we haven't been talking about his character, but when it comes to that, yeah, that's despicable
01:34:40.200
And, and, you know, he has that, uh, he had that, uh, he had that opinion that he, as
01:34:53.080
But there's certainly rumors and there are certainly people who have accused him.
01:34:56.140
Now you're, so you're exonerating yourself from all the Harvey Weinstein stuff.
01:35:03.040
But now you're jumping into this because of politics.
01:35:08.000
Well, she is, that is despicable and pathetic is maybe, but, but listen, I'm gonna tell you
01:35:12.240
something right now, Pat, I bet you that she's going to have the best black dress.
01:35:18.760
Oh, you know, she is at the awards at the golden globes.
01:35:22.680
All the women are wearing black in support of women who've been abused or a statement against
01:35:34.160
I'm not sure what the statement is, but I mean, hopefully Meryl will have a, I don't
01:35:43.660
know, a 10 or $15,000 Gucci brooch that says hashtag me too.
01:36:02.240
And can you imagine how agonizing it's going to be bad broadcast is going to be?
01:36:08.740
It's going to be, I sadly, I'm going to have to watch it, but it's going to be agonizing.
01:36:13.980
We'll have to watch just to see how much it's going to be agonizing.
01:36:20.660
1980 best picture, best actor in a leading role, best actress, best director, best writing.
01:36:27.420
Best supporting actor, best actress in a supporting role, best cinematography.
01:36:35.960
It was, it won one, two, three, four, five, five Oscars.
01:36:48.060
Uh, triple eight, seven, two, seven, Beck, Jeremy to Oregon.
01:36:57.860
There's a potential Republican candidate that you haven't mentioned.
01:37:03.360
I think that he's been smart enough to kind of stay out of the media unless he's saying
01:37:09.420
And I was just curious what you guys thought of that.
01:37:11.100
I like Trey Gowdy and I especially like him at the hearings and, and that's where he
01:37:16.240
I doubt he'd ever run because he wouldn't even run against, uh, he wouldn't even run
01:37:22.340
Uh, he's, I think he's too establishment Republican to, to, to do that.
01:37:28.500
Well, he proved that right against, cause he wouldn't run against Lindsey.
01:37:30.720
I mean, that was an establishment thing where he was like, no, that's my, that's my homeboy.
01:37:34.200
That's not, I'm staying, I'm staying, leaving that alone.
01:37:36.320
And, uh, also remember that, uh, when we had the chance to vote against, uh, what's his
01:37:41.220
face as speaker, the drunk from Ohio, uh, Boehner, Boehner.
01:37:48.780
So, I mean, there's some question marks surrounding Trey Gowdy, like where he stands on, on many
01:37:53.620
different issues, which I'm not, I don't, I'm not aware of.
01:37:56.920
Uh, but he seems like he'd be a great candidate.
01:38:01.720
Most of the time he says a lot of the right things, man.
01:38:06.480
And I'm guessing as a prosecutor, he didn't lose much.
01:38:11.300
I would not want to be against him in the courtroom.
01:38:15.120
Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program with Pat and Jeffy.
01:38:21.180
Hey, I have a theory or a concept for you, if I may.
01:38:24.120
This money that Trump has said, we, President Trump has said, we will hold back.
01:38:30.640
Essentially, if they don't play nice with us, we're not going to play nice with them.
01:38:34.260
So, in turn, let's take that money and build a wall.
01:38:41.820
Your call should maybe be directed to the White House with that statement.
01:38:49.940
You know, it's just take an imaginary number of how much money that would be.
01:39:04.800
I don't know how much, well, let's ask the Island of Spice expert.
01:39:08.820
First of all, how much aid does the Island of Spice, Grenada, receive from the United States?
01:39:18.920
But I'm ready to just stop foreign aid to countries that stab us in the back at every turn.
01:39:27.500
He's cut off two and a half million or billion from the UN.
01:39:35.940
He's now saying he's not going to give any money to the Palestinians.
01:39:51.740
I don't think it'll be handled that way, but that's not a bad idea.
01:40:00.900
He's going to run in 2020 and he'll win in 2020.
01:40:04.940
I mean, if he runs again, he definitely will win.
01:40:07.060
Is there anybody on the Democrat side that you're concerned about that might pose a pretty
01:40:15.120
To be honest, I don't think there's anyone in America, who has not a face or a name in
01:40:19.280
politics or out of politics, I think can beat the man in 2020.
01:40:31.320
I've been a fan and I've been a supporter since the Escalator.
01:40:38.440
Even against my father, who was a diehard Republican, you know, Reagan Republican, war veteran,
01:40:45.880
Even today, with Trump's successes, everybody still thinks I'm crazy.
01:40:49.540
Did you listen to us during the campaign, Larry?
01:40:53.660
Did you listen to the Glenn Beck program during the campaign?
01:41:20.880
And if he runs in 2020, obviously, you know, I don't know that the Democrats have anyone
01:41:29.060
Elizabeth Warren is who's talked about all the time.
01:41:33.100
I mean, Joe may have had a chance, may have had a better chance than Hillary this time around.
01:41:41.080
But those guys, they're not going to beat him now.
01:41:44.560
He's already, I mean, he can destroy them with a wave of his hand.
01:41:47.720
What about Lincoln Chafee if he again brings back his plan to bring us a new measuring
01:42:00.220
If we can get someone to actually comment on it and show that that's what Lincoln wants.
01:42:04.540
This last time, they just brushed it over like it didn't even happen.
01:42:07.900
The mainstream media brushed that under the rug because it was too powerful a policy position.
01:42:16.320
The American people would have been all over his candidacy if they'd known that he was
01:42:28.120
That was like his main focus was the metric system.
01:42:33.580
We had that chance back in the 70s and 80s and said, no, thank you then.
01:42:51.220
Do you guys think at all Ted Cruz might have lost his chance to be president instead of
01:43:00.820
I mean, obviously, we've covered it for most of the show.
01:43:04.220
But since Pat and I were perusing it off the air, we just took it to the air.
01:43:08.600
A, he pissed off Trump supporters in a big way.
01:43:12.860
B, he pissed off his supporters like us when he then did the 180 on Trump.
01:43:25.920
I'll still vote for him for a senator here in Texas.
01:43:28.380
And I'd vote for him again for president if he ran.
01:43:36.080
He would basically start a question off, and then he'd tell his story, and then he'd
01:43:39.940
answer the question, and it'd be 45 minutes later.
01:43:42.320
And I would, like, go to a commercial, and then I'd come back, and he'd still be talking
01:43:48.200
I think a lot of people just maybe fell a little bored.
01:43:51.880
Although he has good policies and everything else.
01:43:58.700
I mean, that was his game plan to go up against Trump.
01:44:02.280
His biggest problem was his communication skills.
01:44:06.760
And then when you're being destroyed, when you're being, you know, lying Ted and blah, blah,
01:44:11.240
blah, blah, blah, to death from the man himself at every turn, you just don't have a shot.
01:44:23.860
I personally, they could never run for president again.
01:44:26.480
I mean, I know we went down the list, and we've covered it ad nauseum, but I don't think
01:44:33.660
Which I think maybe Jindal, maybe Scott Walker, maybe Carly Fiorina.
01:44:40.780
In 2020, they may not have the opportunity, because they're not running against a sitting
01:44:45.680
So all of that is only if he decides not to try for a second term.
01:45:11.340
You can also tune in for my show, Pat Gray Unleashed, which is immediately following this
01:45:23.900
R&B, hip-hop, rap, whatever you want to call it, has overtaken rock as the most popular
01:45:40.840
8 of the 10 most listened to artists of the year came from R&B, hip-hop, led by Drake,
01:45:48.260
Kendrick Lamar, and then Latin music, I guess, has spiked over time, too.
01:46:00.060
Hip-hop dominated the charts in 2017 with viral hits such as Lil Uzi's Vert's Exo Tour.
01:46:09.740
Yeah, I'm not as into Lil Uzi as I probably should be.
01:46:26.200
Ed Sheeran's Divide was the most popular album, supposedly, with 2.8 million album equivalent
01:46:34.620
Is that like if you download the thing from plus the actual copies of CDs that you buy?
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And that was followed by Kendrick Lamar's Damn at 2.7 and Taylor Swift's Reputation 2.3.
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But it just shows you I've got no place in this society anymore.
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I guess I'm too white now for even to listen to music.
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