The Glenn Beck Program - 10⧸23⧸17 - 'The Evil Genius'？ (Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly & Julie Belshe join Glenn )

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand.

00:00:09.100 Love. Courage. Truth.

00:00:13.680 Glenn Beck.

00:00:14.380 It was Christmas Day 2009.

00:00:16.860 A man smuggled chemicals onto a Northwest Airlines flight with 289 passengers aboard.

00:00:23.420 Now this feat required the precision of a master technician and the stealth of a magician.

00:00:28.580 One doesn't just simply waltz onto a plane with a carry-on full of deadly, flammable liquids.

00:00:35.140 Too obvious.

00:00:36.800 You might be mistaken for a terrorist.

00:00:39.300 Now this top-secret mission required months or even minutes of careful planning.

00:00:45.780 It also took a steady hand, sometimes two steady hands,

00:00:49.920 for the chemicals would have to be concealed where no government agent would ever go.

00:00:54.400 The man made it through airport security with his concealed chemicals intact.

00:01:00.680 Too easy, he thought.

00:01:03.340 He then thought of Richard Reed, the failed shoe-bomber. 0.98

00:01:06.700 Amateur.

00:01:08.860 The flight from Amsterdam to Detroit seemed to last forever.

00:01:12.980 His nether regions were cramped and uncomfortable.

00:01:17.040 He had stashed the secret chemicals within the cotton confines of his underpants.

00:01:21.460 Brilliant, he thought to himself.

00:01:24.980 Finally, the plane is beginning to descend toward Detroit.

00:01:28.820 The man covered himself with a blanket and tried to light his skivvies on fire.

00:01:34.760 At first, just smoke.

00:01:37.080 No fruit of the boom.

00:01:39.580 Just a burning sensation where you never want to feel a burning sensation.

00:01:43.360 Before he knew it, Umar Farooq and his singed underpants landed in maximum security federal prison 0.90

00:01:53.960 with a life sentence for his brief attempt at mass murder.

00:01:58.160 Well, now he has a new burning sensation.

00:02:02.840 A burning desire to communicate with the fellow citizens of the world.

00:02:07.360 Except, he says, the United States government is keeping him down.

00:02:12.020 Violating his first, fifth, and eighth amendment rights.

00:02:15.200 Because now, he cares so deeply about stuff like freedom and American constitutional rights.

00:02:22.240 Last week, he sued Uncle Sam for prohibiting him from having any communication whatsoever

00:02:29.360 with more than 7.5 billion people, quoting the vast majority of people on the planet, end quote.

00:02:37.400 He also now says solitary confinement is inhumane, and he's not allowed to pray with his fellow Muslims.

00:02:44.000 Apparently, life in prison is proving to be even more restrictive than his tighty-whities were.

00:03:02.320 Monday, October 23rd.

00:03:04.640 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:07.140 There is a lot to talk about today, but I want to start with a personal note.

00:03:11.940 Over the weekend, I had to call Bill O'Reilly and say,

00:03:19.420 Bill, I want to talk to you personally about what I'm reading in the New York Times.

00:03:25.920 Full disclosure, he had called me two nights before to tell me that the New York Times

00:03:31.440 was going to be publishing something that he had spent the day at the New York Times,

00:03:34.740 or he or his counsel had spent the day,

00:03:40.300 and that they had presented them with evidence that he said,

00:03:44.120 I know they're never going to print.

00:03:47.680 Another smear job is coming.

00:03:50.280 So, on Saturday, the Times came out, and it's a pretty bloody story.

00:03:55.380 Yeah, they say last January, six months after Fox News ousted its chairman, Roger Ailes,

00:04:02.160 amid a sexual harassment scandal, the network's top-rated host at the time,

00:04:05.520 Bill O'Reilly, struck a $32 million agreement with longtime network analyst,

00:04:10.280 that's Liz Wheel, 1.00

00:04:11.600 to settle new sexual harassment allegations, according to two people briefed on the matter.

00:04:17.080 An extraordinarily large amount for such cases included allegations of repeated harassment,

00:04:23.700 a non-consensual sexual relationship, which is a term I don't think I've ever heard before.

00:04:29.440 Non-consensual relationship.

00:04:30.700 It's not a relationship.

00:04:31.220 It's non-consensual, but a non-consensual sexual relationship,

00:04:35.700 and the sending of gay pornography and other sexually explicit material to her, 0.96

00:04:40.380 according to the people briefed on the matter.

00:04:42.720 It was at least the sixth agreement, and by far the largest,

00:04:46.660 made by either O'Reilly or the company to settle harassment allegations against him.

00:04:50.540 Despite that record, 21st Century Fox began contract negotiations with O'Reilly,

00:04:54.500 and in February granted him a four-year extension that paid him $25 million a year.

00:05:00.060 So, it's kind of a double hit here,

00:05:01.400 is they're going after O'Reilly and saying that here's another allegation on him.

00:05:04.600 In addition, they're saying Fox, while telling everyone they cared about sexual harassment,

00:05:09.920 knew this went on and signed Bill O'Reilly anyway.

00:05:12.260 Correct.

00:05:13.320 Now, here is, here is, I'm going to let Bill speak for himself.

00:05:19.080 He's coming on in hour number three today,

00:05:20.880 and I am going to ask him the $32 million question.

00:05:26.800 And he will answer to the best of his ability.

00:05:31.140 He is under legal restraint, but he will answer to the best of his ability.

00:05:37.540 I will tell you that I have an affidavit from Liz Wheel.

00:05:42.900 She says,

00:05:44.540 I have known Bill O'Reilly for 18 years.

00:05:46.880 We have worked together.

00:05:47.840 We have socialized.

00:05:48.920 And on occasion, I gave him legal advice.

00:05:51.260 At the end of 2016, I hired counsel who prepared a draft complaint asserting claims against Bill O'Reilly.

00:05:57.960 We have since resolved all of our issues.

00:06:00.260 I will no longer make allegations contained in the draft complaint.

00:06:04.000 Additionally, over the years, while I was asking as Bill O'Reilly's counsel,

00:06:07.920 he forwarded me certain explicit emails that were sent to him.

00:06:12.460 And any advice sought or rendered is attorney-client privilege, confidential, and private.

00:06:17.340 I have no claims against Bill O'Reilly concerning any of those emails or any of the allegations in the draft complaint.

00:06:23.080 I have reached an accommodation with Fox News regarding the termination of my employment.

00:06:28.040 I have no claims against Fox News Liz Wheel.

00:06:32.080 Now, Bill has not only the affidavit, but he also has what would be described as love letters from Liz to Bill.

00:06:45.160 Now, how is there, was somebody forcing her to write those things?

00:06:56.160 All right, that's why I thought that term, non-consensual sexual relationship, was so bizarre.

00:07:01.840 Because, you know, look, if you're in a relationship with someone, you can still violate them.

00:07:06.440 You can still do terrible things.

00:07:07.760 That's not necessarily, you know, it's not what they're saying here.

00:07:10.040 But just, I mean, you could theoretically, right?

00:07:12.040 You're in a relationship.

00:07:12.880 These things happen all the time where someone does something they're not supposed to inside of a relationship.

00:07:17.100 However, a non-consensual sexual relationship.

00:07:20.460 Sounds to me like rape. 0.99

00:07:22.320 But over and over and over again.

00:07:25.280 Right.

00:07:25.820 And in the terms of a relationship, it's a strange wording.

00:07:29.520 Yes, it is.

00:07:30.520 So I don't think it makes any sense.

00:07:33.220 I mean, if there are these love letters, which I have not seen myself.

00:07:36.400 I have not seen them either.

00:07:37.420 But if they exist, and I don't know if these were presented to the Times or not.

00:07:42.680 But it is my understanding that, and I'm going to let Bill talk about this, that he went and offered evidence and said that this is not true.

00:07:53.820 The way that it is being presented is absolutely not true.

00:07:58.560 And he said they were not interested in any of that.

00:08:02.820 It is my belief that there are those that do not want Bill O'Reilly to return.

00:08:12.200 And I believe, honestly, that some of those people are the Murdochs.

00:08:15.700 And the Murdochs do not want Bill O'Reilly back on the Fox News.

00:08:22.740 And so they want to keep him out.

00:08:27.820 I think it is interesting that everything was dead and buried with Bill until he went back on Sean Hannity's show and made Fox number one for the first time in months and months.

00:08:42.580 That all of a sudden, people realized he's still a threat.

00:08:47.560 And now it's being pushed again.

00:08:50.920 This is not new.

00:08:52.820 These are things that have already been out in the paper.

00:08:55.440 Now, here is my problem.

00:09:01.900 This is why I say I want to start with a personal note.

00:09:07.220 I come from a family of abuse.

00:09:10.900 And I know what abuse is like.

00:09:14.960 I know how abuse plays on people.

00:09:19.020 I know how abuse destroys people.

00:09:20.940 I have no place in my life for abusers.

00:09:26.700 None.

00:09:27.960 I have no place in my life for men who treat women with anything but respect.

00:09:35.360 I also have no place in my life for women who don't treat men with respect. 0.78

00:09:40.900 We are now in a place that is starting to resemble the crucible.

00:09:50.800 This is starting to look like a witch hunt.

00:09:54.840 And we have to decide, are you guilty until proven innocent or are you innocent until proven guilty?

00:10:03.280 Which is it in America?

00:10:04.640 We can each make our own personal judgments on this.

00:10:11.100 But on speculation and on complaint, does this mean that you are driven from society and can never work again?

00:10:22.360 Bill maintains that he made mistakes, but they are not these kinds of mistakes.

00:10:31.940 His mistakes were trusting people.

00:10:34.140 His mistakes were dating at work.

00:10:36.700 His mistakes were settling.

00:10:40.280 He has spoken to me and said,

00:10:43.000 Glenn, I did not want my children exposed to any of this.

00:10:48.300 It's worth that for me.

00:10:50.100 I think I understand that.

00:10:56.180 Now, I don't think I understand $32 million, if that indeed is the settlement amount.

00:11:03.860 However, I do understand that.

00:11:06.560 And I think we all understand.

00:11:08.160 We've all worked for companies that settled things that you knew were wrong.

00:11:12.280 How many times, at least in my life, I don't know, maybe people are different.

00:11:17.300 But in my life, I've seen companies and people settle things that they should have never settled.

00:11:23.180 But they did because it made it go away.

00:11:27.880 It made it just stop.

00:11:30.100 And we have been a society that has given these lawsuits so much power that we settle.

00:11:40.380 And then what do we do?

00:11:41.880 We put a stupid label on a snowblower that says snowblowers shouldn't be used on the roof.

00:11:47.320 So you didn't have another stupid lawsuit.

00:11:54.280 Lawsuits are important.

00:11:56.400 And the system is important.

00:11:58.400 And if we're going to settle these cases, then the affidavit needs to mean something.

00:12:07.960 The privacy needs to mean something.

00:12:13.540 If you can say to somebody, hey, they did this, and then you're sitting at the table.

00:12:19.940 Now, let's just assume that this is not about sexual harassment.

00:12:22.860 This is about something else.

00:12:23.720 I used a snowblower on the roof, and I'm going to take you to court, and I'm going to get you for half a billion dollars.

00:12:32.880 And you know, as the company, they're not going to win half a billion dollars.

00:12:36.480 And it's absolutely no jury in the world is going to believe this.

00:12:40.600 However, it's going to cost us X, Y, and Z.

00:12:44.080 It's going to cost us putting all of our company time into this.

00:12:48.040 We're going to have to fight it in the press.

00:12:50.020 There are going to be people who are against us because the other snowblower company is all against us.

00:12:56.300 And they're going to use this against us.

00:12:57.820 And they're going to say, we built our snowblowers to never go on the roof.

00:13:02.380 Just settle the damn thing.

00:13:05.380 You settle it to make it go away.

00:13:10.340 Now, can that be used against you?

00:13:13.200 Because what did you just pay for?

00:13:15.140 And if the person who signed the affidavit has said, okay, so we've settled, and these things aren't true, and I've had a good relationship with this snowblower.

00:13:26.340 If everyone just says, well, they only signed that because of money.

00:13:32.920 Well, wait, then what good was the affidavit?

00:13:39.620 Why would I have them sign?

00:13:41.060 Why would I ever settle?

00:13:42.360 So, we're going to do a couple of things.

00:13:46.160 We're going to destroy settlements because nobody will ever settle.

00:13:52.020 Nobody will ever, ever settle.

00:13:54.940 And then, is that good for victims?

00:13:59.380 No, because you don't have the money that the corporation does.

00:14:04.040 So, they're not settling.

00:14:08.800 And then, on top of it, if they do settle, then what happens?

00:14:16.560 You do settle, they come out, and they can say whatever they want.

00:14:21.440 Now, the company is screwed.

00:14:23.940 So, where's justice?

00:14:27.180 Does everything now have to go to a court of law?

00:14:33.780 And are we going to decide everything and destroy people's lives based on things we do not have firsthand knowledge on?

00:14:43.880 This is something we have to decide.

00:14:50.160 And I find myself here.

00:14:52.560 I believe Bill.

00:14:53.800 I don't have all the evidence, but I believe him.

00:14:59.200 So, what do I do?

00:15:01.160 Do I kowtow to the people who say, you can't have this going to really hurt you?

00:15:06.520 Or do I stand and say, well, when evidence is presented that I believe, then I'll make my own personal decision on that.

00:15:17.460 But right now, I'm not willing to throw somebody to the pack of wolves.

00:15:20.980 There were people at Fox that I do believe were doing this.

00:15:24.600 Roger Ailes, I do believe.

00:15:28.680 I've been with Bill O'Reilly in many situations, work situations.

00:15:34.520 The guy keeps to himself.

00:15:35.760 He's the most buttoned up guy I've ever met.

00:15:38.880 Could he be this guy?

00:15:40.540 Yeah.

00:15:41.120 But I have seen no evidence of it.

00:15:43.380 You know, Gretchen Carlson is now saying, you know, she was quoted as saying, we have to believe the accusers, yada, yada.

00:15:57.780 No, we have to listen to them.

00:16:00.200 But we don't have to believe them, especially when politics or vast amounts of money is involved.

00:16:06.160 We don't have to believe people.

00:16:08.200 We do have to listen to them and not automatically discount them.

00:16:15.200 But when politics are involved, it's important that we listen to both sides and we fix reason firmly in her seat.

00:16:24.100 I'm going to open up the phones.

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00:18:07.100 Glenn Beck.

00:18:08.900 Glenn Beck.

00:18:20.180 So you have a choice to make here, I believe.

00:18:24.000 As we were speaking about this particular topic, the O'Reilly situation, it looks like Megyn Kelly has spoken out about this topic.

00:18:32.260 She's made accusations against him?

00:18:33.940 I don't have the, I don't know yet if she spoke on the Today Show.

00:18:37.900 Oh, dear God.

00:18:38.460 If he, if she, I, well, now I'm, now I'm really, I, I absolutely believe Megyn Kelly.

00:18:44.660 Megyn is, I, top shelf.

00:18:47.920 I'm not saying that, by the way, I'm not saying that she has, she's accusing him of anything yet.

00:18:52.460 I, we have to actually hear the, should we play the audio?

00:18:55.340 Yes.

00:18:55.620 Do you have the audio?

00:18:56.240 We're pulling it now, but it's not ready.

00:18:57.480 Okay.

00:18:57.820 So was this on her TV show this morning?

00:18:59.960 It appears to be on the Today Show.

00:19:02.040 Oh, so she, her show has not aired today, right, yet?

00:19:04.720 No, it has not.

00:19:05.640 Depending on where you're listening.

00:19:07.060 But they have a, I think she came on the Today Show, a special appearance to talk about this.

00:19:12.180 And she's on, she's going to be talking about this today with Juliet Huddy, who I also really like.

00:19:19.000 I don't know Juliet, but I, I like her.

00:19:21.960 I've always heard good things about her.

00:19:23.600 Um, but she's on, uh, today talking about the sexual harassment at, at Fox.

00:19:30.520 Yeah.

00:19:30.960 I mean, again, accusations are accusations and you need to take, as you pointed out, take them seriously.

00:19:37.280 Every time there's an accusation, it should be taken seriously.

00:19:40.640 Uh, and then it should be looked into.

00:19:42.320 Um, so I think this will give, I'm sure, uh, Bill will want to respond to this, uh, you know, depending on the details.

00:19:51.260 I know he's somewhat restricted legally, but I mean, I think it's a, uh, he's going to probably want to address this.

00:19:57.200 Oh, I'm sure he will.

00:19:57.660 This is going to be a very high profile thing today.

00:19:59.440 Yeah.

00:20:00.100 So we will, uh, we will have him on an hour three.

00:20:02.580 We'll play that.

00:20:03.540 Hopefully we'll have that pulled, uh, by the next break.

00:20:06.100 Give us about five minutes to pull that.

00:20:07.840 And, uh, we'll pull that audio and, uh, and play it.

00:20:12.300 But I really want to hear from you.

00:20:14.740 Um, are we still innocent until proven guilty in America?

00:20:20.800 Or do we just go over the cliff with the rest of humanity?

00:20:26.520 Glenn Beck.

00:20:34.880 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:36.760 I find myself in a really weird place today.

00:20:40.640 I am standing in between two friends, um, both of whom I trust and adore, um, Megan Kelly.

00:20:49.280 I, I adore her.

00:20:50.320 I think she is one of the smartest, um, uh, women on television. 0.59

00:20:55.700 She, I think is, is, is kind and brave.

00:21:00.180 Uh, and I support her.

00:21:02.240 I'm one of the few on either side that support her, uh, on the,

00:21:06.760 on the other hand, Bill O'Reilly is also, uh, one of the smartest, um, and, uh, miscast characters.

00:21:18.480 And one of the only people in television that I think was truly gracious and helpful to me, um, and, uh, was always transparent with me.

00:21:30.180 So, uh, there's a spat, uh, going on between the two of them, uh, and I believe both of them are right in, in some regard.

00:21:43.900 Bill O'Reilly is under attack again for, uh, sexual harassment.

00:21:50.420 This is not a new suit.

00:21:51.840 This is just the New York times bringing up old stuff that has already been out.

00:21:56.620 And Megan Kelly spoke about it on the Today Show.

00:22:00.900 We're getting that, uh, tape and we'll have it in just a second.

00:22:03.920 First, let me go to Chris in California.

00:22:06.520 Chris, I don't, I don't want to give, uh, uh, lip service to sexual harassment.

00:22:15.340 Um, but I also don't want to be a part of anything where we're just, uh, we're gathering up witches.

00:22:21.620 What do I do with this Bill O'Reilly situation?

00:22:25.100 I happen to believe him.

00:22:28.760 Well, you know, in this scenario, and as I explained to the gentleman before, you know, uh, that's why we have the whole process, right?

00:22:35.120 And we have evidence and reasonable doubt.

00:22:37.200 We have to, we have to look at the evidence, but the problem is, and, and, and like we're talking about it is it, it is guilty till proven innocent because the accusations have been made.

00:22:45.360 Okay.

00:22:45.920 Character's been tarnished.

00:22:47.260 Loss of job has happened.

00:22:48.740 Okay.

00:22:49.100 There's emotional things that go on, not only, you know, with yourself and within, but also with the family.

00:22:54.540 Okay.

00:22:55.380 And who ends up paying for that?

00:22:57.180 Ultimately he does.

00:22:58.120 Right.

00:22:58.720 So even in the long run, if he is innocent, he's still going to be looked at in a, in a different light.

00:23:03.960 And there's going to be people out there that no matter what are going to say that, well, you know, they just, whatever, you know, they found in his favor because he's rich or because he's this or because he's that, you know what I'm saying?

00:23:13.540 And so it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a process that really from the beginning is just totally, it just doesn't work.

00:23:21.660 Chris, thank you for your call.

00:23:23.300 Frank in Pennsylvania.

00:23:24.880 Go ahead.

00:23:26.480 Good morning, Glenn.

00:23:28.180 I look at it, Glenn, as God's still in control.

00:23:31.200 And, you know, I look at this as a humbling effect for Bill.

00:23:33.900 Not that he needed it.

00:23:35.520 Oh, yes, he did.

00:23:38.100 Yes, he did.

00:23:39.600 But, you know, you look at King David in the Bible and the effect it had on him, you know, and I still love Bill and I'm praying that he comes back stronger and more righteous than ever.

00:23:48.120 You know, he's more, he's a powerful man and he has a lot to bring to the table.

00:23:52.500 And, you know, look, Glenn, I'm keeping the faith.

00:23:54.780 Yeah.

00:23:55.040 Okay.

00:23:55.420 Thanks, Frank.

00:23:56.480 I, um, uh, it has humbled him.

00:23:59.280 It has humbled him a great deal.

00:24:00.980 Bill is not the same man that I knew at Fox.

00:24:04.520 Uh, and, uh, and I, I, I could, I could be wrong.

00:24:09.960 I could be wrong.

00:24:11.460 Um, but I, I believe him that mistakes were made, but they're not Harvey Weinstein mistakes.

00:24:18.720 Uh, and, um, you know, people, um, settle for all kinds of reasons.

00:24:26.340 And I know that I have gone kicking and screaming to the settlement table a couple of times, uh, cause it was wrong, but you settle.

00:24:35.620 There's a serious and sort of thinly veiled accusation by the New York times against Liz wheel as well, which is basically they're saying this attorney filed a false affidavit lying about what actually happened to collect money.

00:24:49.800 Uh, if that's true, she should be disbarred. 1.00

00:24:53.040 Right.

00:24:53.480 And I don't, I, like, it's a weird thing.

00:24:55.500 And like, everyone's just kind of assuming because they're, the reported number is large that, oh, of course she would lie to get that.

00:25:00.940 But I mean, she's an attorney filing a legal document. 0.98

00:25:03.980 Like, that's, regardless of the amount of money, that's, that's not something that is, uh, normally just dismissed.

00:25:11.760 Uh, so I, I think it seems like, and maybe we can ask Bill about this, but I mean, I, you know, uh, that's a, that's an odd thing because Liz is saying she has no claims against them and that these things are settled and she would not make these claims if asked today.

00:25:23.820 That's what the affidavit said that she signed.

00:25:26.180 So, I mean, like the legal system takes that seriously as well.

00:25:29.200 Right.

00:25:29.820 Yes.

00:25:30.120 Um, so, you know, so if something is settled, it's not settled anymore.

00:25:35.860 That's what I was saying in the open.

00:25:37.120 It's just not settled.

00:25:38.880 You can't settle anything anymore because even the affidavit means nothing now.

00:25:44.380 And that's what these settlements are set for.

00:25:46.200 People will say, well, wait a minute.

00:25:47.400 I, I, I want these things to be prosecuted or whatever.

00:25:49.840 There shouldn't be these settlements.

00:25:51.000 They shouldn't be about money.

00:25:52.180 It's not your choice.

00:25:53.280 It's the victim's choice.

00:25:54.140 If the victim comes to a settlement hearing and decides to take the settlement, they are saying,

00:25:58.620 I would rather have this settlement than go through that procedure.

00:26:02.320 They are saying it.

00:26:03.880 Um, it's their right to do that in our legal system. 0.99

00:26:06.860 It obviously, there's a lot of reasons for that.

00:26:08.720 It, it, it takes burden off of the legal system for one. 0.99

00:26:11.880 It does a lot of these things, but if this is, you're right.

00:26:13.840 And you kind of mentioned this earlier.

00:26:15.000 If, if these things just leak out every time there's a settlement, then no powerful person is ever going to settle one of these things.

00:26:22.320 And then you're going to wind up with the other, the other side of that, which is the powerful people who are guilty are going to use every dime that they would have settled with to attack the person who's, who's claiming.

00:26:32.500 Bill said, Bill said to me, my biggest mistake is settling.

00:26:35.880 He said, I listened to attorneys and I listened to Fox and they said, just make it go away.

00:26:41.300 Settle, settle, settle. 0.91

00:26:42.420 And he said, I did it for my children.

00:26:44.480 And he said, that's my biggest mistake is I settled.

00:26:48.540 And now look at it.

00:26:50.000 He said, there's just, it's just not going to, it's just, there was no reason to settle.

00:26:54.920 And that's true.

00:26:56.580 So if it just, I want you to be aware of the society that we're entering in.

00:27:02.700 If someone makes a claim, you can settle, but it won't matter if you don't settle.

00:27:11.140 And it's one thing to say, well, I would never settle.

00:27:13.160 Believe me, you will, you will.

00:27:15.880 When you're talking about bankruptcy or settling it and just making it go away, you'll settle.

00:27:24.820 And it's your right to settle.

00:27:27.740 But if, if settlement means nothing anymore, well, then what do you have?

00:27:33.380 What do you have?

00:27:35.340 You have to fight them and it will be whoever has the most money.

00:27:40.900 And there's no secrets anymore.

00:27:42.840 Believe me, they will, they, if somebody has a lot of money, they are going to find out whatever it is you don't want out there.

00:27:52.500 And it's just going to be tit for tat.

00:27:54.640 And this is not good.

00:27:56.680 This adds to chaos.

00:27:58.320 All right.

00:28:00.600 We have the Megan audio we're going to get to.

00:28:06.240 This is, I have not heard this yet, but this is Megan Kelly today on the Today Show.

00:28:10.660 And I like and respect Megan.

00:28:15.140 So if she's coming out with something on Bill O'Reilly, this is going to be a problem.

00:28:20.700 Here's Megan Kelly today. 0.99

00:28:22.260 It's a malicious smear claiming that no woman in 20 years ever complained to human resources or legal about him.

00:28:28.600 Maybe that is true.

00:28:30.880 Fox News was not exactly a friendly environment for harassment victims who wanted to report, in my experience.

00:28:38.100 However, O'Reilly's suggestion that no one ever complained about his behavior is false.

00:28:43.280 I know because I complained.

00:28:45.540 Oh, boy.

00:28:45.920 It was November of 2016, the day my memoir was released.

00:28:50.240 In it, I included a chapter on Ailes and the sexual harassment scandal at Fox News, something the Murdochs knew I was doing and, to their credit, approved.

00:28:59.920 O'Reilly happened to be on CBS News that morning.

00:29:02.660 They asked him about my book and about Ailes, who by this time had been forced out in disgrace.

00:29:08.460 O'Reilly's response?

00:29:10.760 I'm not that interested in this.

00:29:12.640 No?

00:29:13.200 No.

00:29:13.580 I mean, it's over for me.

00:29:14.220 Sexual harassment?

00:29:14.700 You're not interested in sexual harassment?

00:29:15.980 I'm not interested in, basically, litigating something that is finished, that makes my network look bad.

00:29:23.480 Okay?

00:29:23.980 I'm not interested in making my network look bad at all that doesn't interest me one bit.

00:29:33.120 I did something that day I've never done before.

00:29:36.000 I wrote an email to the co-presidents of Fox News, Bill Shine and Jack Abernathy.

00:29:39.940 An email I have never made public but am sharing now because I think it speaks volumes about powerful men and the roadblocks one can face in taking them on.

00:29:49.700 I wrote, in part, perhaps he didn't realize the kind of message his criticism sends to young women across this country about how men continue to view the issue of speaking out about sexual harassment.

00:30:01.060 Perhaps he didn't realize that his exact attitude of shaming women into shutting the hell up about harassment on grounds that it will disgrace the company is in part how Fox News got into the decade-long ills mess to begin with.

00:30:14.840 Perhaps it's his own history of harassment of women, which has, as you both know, resulted in payouts to more than one woman, including recently, that blinded him to the folly of saying anything other than,

00:30:27.960 I am just so sorry for the women of this company, who never should have had to go through that.

00:30:34.200 Bill Shine called me in response to my email, promising to deal with O'Reilly.

00:30:38.320 By 8 p.m. that night, O'Reilly had apparently been dealt with.

00:30:42.400 And by that I mean he was permitted, with management's advance notice and blessing, to go on the air and attack the company's harassment victims yet again.

00:30:52.680 If somebody is paying you a wage, you owe that person or company allegiance.

00:30:57.640 If you don't like what's happening in the workplace, go to human resources or leave.

00:31:01.940 I've done that.

00:31:03.140 And then take the action you need to take afterward if you feel agreed.

00:31:06.660 There are labor laws in this country, but don't run down the concern that supports you by trying to undermine it.

00:31:13.680 Okay, stop for a second.

00:31:15.720 This is different.

00:31:16.880 This is different.

00:31:17.600 This is an allegation.

00:31:18.620 You don't like the way he responded to you.

00:31:21.320 And, Megan, I happen to agree with you.

00:31:23.240 I didn't like it either.

00:31:25.080 This is a critique of his public speech on talk shows.

00:31:29.180 This is not about sexual harassment.

00:31:31.880 This is about what he said about coworkers.

00:31:35.780 And I happen to disagree with him on this.

00:31:40.080 I think that it was brave of the women at Fox News to stand up.

00:31:45.800 Roger Ailes was an extraordinarily powerful man.

00:31:49.060 He was the Harvey Weinstein, I would say, light in comparison to what Harvey really is.

00:31:56.160 But he was he was just as powerful on the right and nobody wanted to take him on.

00:32:03.780 And it took great courage to take him on.

00:32:06.620 And I put Megyn Kelly in that in that camp. 0.98

00:32:10.380 But you have to remember something else that was going on at the time.

00:32:13.440 A political campaign had just been waged.

00:32:17.240 And this whole campaign pitted Fox News against Megyn Kelly. 0.97

00:32:24.700 Megyn Kelly was the darling of the company until she stopped and started asking questions of Donald Trump that I thought were completely fair. 0.52

00:32:33.020 And Roger Ailes wanted to teach Megyn a lesson and knock her down a notch. 0.62

00:32:39.560 And and I know this because I worked there and knock her down a notch and and let the political system do his dirty work. 1.00

00:32:51.040 That's what this was about.

00:32:52.160 There was an internal war going on and it was all about politics.

00:32:56.440 But that's separate from the accusations, right?

00:33:01.340 I mean, yes, it's separate.

00:33:02.540 And so I think the the headline here, the Megyn thing is obviously she felt really strongly about this and did not like she saw the O'Reilly statements publicly as a microcosm of with the way the company treated these.

00:33:16.560 And she is not making a specific accusation of harassment by Bill O'Reilly.

00:33:21.420 And I will tell you that I happen to agree.

00:33:24.880 I happen to agree.

00:33:25.940 This is this this this is the way Fox News dealt with things.

00:33:30.360 They would have approved that.

00:33:33.660 And, you know, Bill's intent may have been different than the leadership's intent.

00:33:38.440 I don't know.

00:33:40.140 But I I will tell you there is a lot more going on in that particular story at that particular time than just standing up and and saying sexual harassment.

00:33:52.540 You know, you know, and I have to say, well, I disagree with the way he handled it.

00:33:59.540 I and I agree with Megyn Kelly.

00:34:03.360 I also don't want to work for a place where they're going to tell me I have to or I cannot say something on my own program.

00:34:13.400 If I were working at Fox and they told me not to, I wouldn't appreciate it.

00:34:18.860 If they told me to say something, I wouldn't appreciate it.

00:34:22.600 I would read the statement and make it clear that my company wanted me to say these things.

00:34:29.580 But you don't stay silent.

00:34:34.000 You don't have to quit a company that you like to make a charge against the company that you like.

00:34:39.400 If you like it and you think it can be fixed and you know what is going on is wrong and illegal, you have a duty to stick it out and stand up.

00:34:51.040 The world is becoming more and more unpredictable and that's putting it mildly.

00:35:06.860 None of us have any guarantees on what tomorrow will bring.

00:35:09.900 I mean, honestly, I could come to you on the air tomorrow and I'll bet you that a vast majority of the audience would go, huh, if I said to you, you know what, the federal government has come out and said that aliens do exist.

00:35:24.320 We had contact with them, you know, 40 years ago and, you know, we've been we've been talking to them and they're going to come out later today with evidence of alien life.

00:35:34.400 I think all of us would go, huh, wow, we're 10, 15 years ago, that would have changed the world.

00:35:42.580 Yes, it would still change the world, but we're not shocked by anything.

00:35:47.060 That shows you how unstable things are.

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00:36:38.240 Glenn Beck.

00:36:45.880 Glenn Beck.

00:36:46.880 Why do we have to question everything that anyone says, especially in authority?

00:36:52.900 We are going to tell you the story next hour of what could happen to you or your parents.

00:37:00.360 It is a shocking, shocking story of how people can just suddenly be deemed irresponsible and lose everything.

00:37:16.880 Including contact with their own children.

00:37:20.760 Truly remarkable.

00:37:21.860 A story you must hear from a person who went through it in a minute.

00:37:31.900 Glenn Beck.

00:37:38.800 Love.

00:37:40.380 Courage.

00:37:41.920 Truth.

00:37:43.180 Glenn Beck.

00:37:44.000 48 hours.

00:37:44.940 That is how long the president of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe, held the position of goodwill ambassador at the UN.

00:37:53.040 The World Health Organization chose Mugabe because they thought he'd be an advocate for fighting diseases such as cancer and diabetes in Africa.

00:38:02.080 Well, thankfully, someone at the World Health Organization returned to sanity and rescinded the appointment when two days later they remembered, oh, yeah, that's right.

00:38:12.140 He's a despot, a tyrant, a killer.

00:38:15.840 To think that somebody who helped spread a raging cholera epidemic in his own country would fight diseases is insane.

00:38:25.640 This is a man who has killed thousands of his own people for political dissent.

00:38:30.140 He destroyed Zimbabwe's health care program.

00:38:32.820 He eviscerated the agricultural system.

00:38:35.100 He forced seizure of white-owned farms, collapsed the economy, and has led to devastating poverty and mass starvation all across his country.

00:38:45.500 Robert Mugabe?

00:38:46.740 He's single-handedly responsible for reducing the life expectancy in Zimbabwe from 62 years to 36 years.

00:38:56.300 That's the lowest in the entire world.

00:39:01.160 Believe me when I say this man is incapable of doing anything good.

00:39:06.060 This is a guy who aspired to be like Adolf Hitler.

00:39:11.220 I'm going to quote Mugabe.

00:39:13.240 Quote,

00:39:14.360 I am still the Hitler of my time. 0.92

00:39:17.460 Hitler has only one objective, justice for his people, sovereignty for his people, recognition of the independence of his people, and their rights over resources. 0.73

00:39:26.600 If that's Hitler, then let me be Hitler tenfold. 0.94

00:39:30.180 Ten times, that's what we stand for.

00:39:32.500 End quote.

00:39:33.180 Who, in their right mind at the World Health Organization, could be this stupid?

00:39:42.660 By the way, not the first time the United Nations honored Mugabe.

00:39:46.220 In 2012, the UN endorsed him as a tourism ambassador.

00:39:51.720 Oh.

00:39:53.620 The title's kind of ironic because Mugabe's been banned from traveling to most parts of the world because of his atrocious human rights violations.

00:40:01.480 Not to mention there is nothing to tour in his country except devastation, poverty, disease, and, I don't know, cemeteries.

00:40:11.060 If our intergovernmental organization insists on appointing Mugabe to something, it should be to appoint him as the ambassador to the deepest, darkest recesses of hell.

00:40:24.160 That is an appointment I can get behind, and that would be the only reason I would send another dime to the UN.

00:40:34.140 Monday, October 23rd.

00:40:43.500 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:40:45.860 We are going to tell you a story that is truly hard to believe, and it could happen to you.

00:40:54.720 It could happen to your parents.

00:40:56.540 I want to introduce you to Julie Lynn Belshi.

00:41:01.240 She is a woman whose parents, Rudy and Rennie North, were legally kidnapped.

00:41:09.980 This happened in the state of Nevada, and this is not the only case.

00:41:16.520 It is, uh, it all stems from these guardians.

00:41:22.280 Strangers can become the guardian of your parents.

00:41:28.180 It doesn't matter if you're there.

00:41:30.680 They can go to court and become a guardian for your parent, and when that happens, they just disappear.

00:41:41.820 Julie, welcome to the program.

00:41:44.480 Thank you, Glenn, for having me.

00:41:46.200 This, I'm reading this story, uh, from the New Yorker, and it is hard to believe at first.

00:41:54.880 This sounds like something that would have happened in Nazi Germany.

00:42:01.360 Well, um, that's pretty much what I've compared it to, because I didn't know anything about guardianship.

00:42:07.440 And when I started looking on the computer and finding, um, the first video I came across was Dorothy Wilson, uh, Diane Wilson was going in and interviewing her mother in an assisted living facility, and her mom was devastated.

00:42:24.740 She was like, get me out of here. 0.97

00:42:26.380 I'm not going to eat.

00:42:27.820 I'm not going to read.

00:42:29.060 I want to go home.

00:42:30.200 Um, and I didn't know what I stepped into, and the more I started investigating the computer, the social media helped me tremendously.

00:42:39.220 I knew I had to do something for my parents because they're confident.

00:42:43.600 There was nothing wrong with them.

00:42:45.060 They needed a little bit of help, but they lived on the golf course.

00:42:48.600 They had somebody come in and help them and take care of them.

00:42:51.680 Um, I assisted them.

00:42:52.920 Um, my mom had suffered for years and years, um, from, uh, CLL.

00:42:58.240 Um, and, um, but we had it all under control.

00:43:03.360 And, uh, the minute anybody finds out that you have any assets, money, stocks, bonds, um, that you're worth value, you no longer are human being.

00:43:18.140 Um, once the guardian takes you, you are now a ward and you have less rights than a prisoner.

00:43:24.460 This is, this is truly shocking, and I, I want to set this up right so people can really understand it.

00:43:30.440 This, your, your folks lived in Las Vegas, so people understand you would go over to see your mom and dad.

00:43:37.300 They lived on this golf course.

00:43:38.580 You would go over and see your mom and dad, but once a day, you would stop in.

00:43:42.260 Is that correct?

00:43:42.800 I would stop in, uh, once a day and then the last couple of months before they got taken, uh, we would call each other and my husband and I have a business.

00:43:55.820 So I was pretty busy.

00:43:57.380 I have three young boys and, um, but I would talk to them every day, not three or four times a day, make sure they were okay.

00:44:04.740 See them once a week.

00:44:05.940 Um, at first I was helping them, um, for six months, just run errands, take them to the doctor.

00:44:12.560 Right.

00:44:12.900 Um, but it's not that, it's not that your, your folks were, um, confused.

00:44:17.520 Your father, uh, was reading.

00:44:20.160 I'm trying to remember here.

00:44:21.780 He was, he was reading Freud.

00:44:23.620 He was reading, uh, Plato, Nietzsche.

00:44:26.980 Your mom was, I mean, very intelligent man.

00:44:29.600 Yes.

00:44:29.960 Very, very articulate.

00:44:31.340 Right.

00:44:32.020 Um, this is collusion.

00:44:35.940 Okay.

00:44:36.600 Um, it doesn't, this doesn't start with just the guardian.

00:44:39.600 Okay.

00:44:39.980 That's the guardian is that now we have finally got indicted.

00:44:45.220 Okay.

00:44:45.640 Hang on before.

00:44:46.560 Wait, wait, wait.

00:44:47.000 Before you go into this, I have to explain to people what, what happened.

00:44:50.800 So, um, your folks, your folks are living on the golf course.

00:44:55.460 They have, they've lived a good life.

00:44:57.800 They've put their money away.

00:44:59.680 Um, they've saved for their retirement.

00:45:01.800 Uh, your mom is getting ill, but your dad is taking care of, uh, her.

00:45:07.360 She's fine.

00:45:08.440 He's fine.

00:45:09.940 Both mentally there.

00:45:12.220 Um, you're in the area.

00:45:14.340 So if there's any problems, it's not like these people were just left alone.

00:45:17.960 And one day somebody comes to the door and claims to be their guardian.

00:45:23.000 Is that right?

00:45:23.600 Um, you pretty much have it right.

00:45:27.460 What happened was it was on a Memorial day of 2013 and I had plans to go and see my parents

00:45:33.500 on that Friday, um, and, and walks, um, hospice care, uh, worker, the owners actually from hospice

00:45:43.120 care, my parents were drinking coffee and having breakfast, um, um, to pretty much condense

00:45:50.420 us, um, there was another knock on the door about 20 minutes later and it was April Park's,

00:45:57.660 the private professional guardian.

00:45:59.800 Um, I like to call them the private, uh, for profit guardian because that's what all they're

00:46:05.100 in it for.

00:46:06.300 And she walked in and presented herself.

00:46:10.060 And my parents had six people in their home and told them they had three choices.

00:46:15.040 One, they could go to go with them willingly and go to an assisted living facility to, they 0.52

00:46:22.560 could call the fire department and the police.

00:46:24.740 They had a chance they could go to jail or they could be taken out of the home in a gurney

00:46:29.160 or three, they could go to a psych ward.

00:46:34.680 Your parents chose option number one because they were confused and a neighbor came out and

00:46:40.240 said, what's going on?

00:46:41.100 And they said, I would get, we're just going to look at this like a vacation, uh, nothing

00:46:45.480 to worry about.

00:46:46.820 They, that's not, that's not correct.

00:46:49.420 What, what really happened was, um, all of these, um, April parks, first of all, presented

00:46:57.360 herself as an officer of the court, which she's not.

00:47:00.520 And, um, one of her coworkers told my mom and dad, just look at this as a mini vacation

00:47:07.000 as a respite, you'll be coming back home.

00:47:10.160 Okay.

00:47:10.840 And my mom was crying and crying and said, this is my home.

00:47:14.520 Get out of my home.

00:47:16.220 Leave us alone.

00:47:17.620 They were told to pack a suitcase and pretty much whatever they put in the suitcase is all

00:47:24.560 that was left in the end.

00:47:26.160 Um, they got, um, they got a few items back, but this guardian then took them, uh, across

00:47:32.940 the state up, way up North.

00:47:35.320 Uh, if I'm not mistaken, um, she, well, she took them, um, by Lake Mead, which from our

00:47:41.440 house is about 45 minutes.

00:47:43.080 It's right on close to the, um, border, um, Arizona.

00:47:47.800 Okay.

00:47:48.200 Um, oh yeah, I'm sorry.

00:47:50.020 I was thinking that this was, um, sun city, Arizona.

00:47:52.420 This was actually in Nevada, wasn't it?

00:47:54.580 Correct.

00:47:55.080 Um, and so, um, they take her there.

00:47:58.600 They take them there.

00:47:59.340 This is a retirement community.

00:48:01.300 When you finally get in touch with your parents, how many days have gone by?

00:48:07.200 Four days.

00:48:08.300 And no one, there was no sign, nothing on the door until the fourth day, until after the

00:48:14.980 Memorial day weekend, until she got temporary guardianship of them.

00:48:18.920 And she was now their temporary guardianship because it was deemed a emergency situation.

00:48:25.160 If something is such an emergency, she was handed the papers two weeks prior, then why

00:48:31.360 didn't she go and get them there? 0.96

00:48:33.260 And it's a law that if your parents or your loved one is going to be taken by law, the court

00:48:41.580 is supposed to notify you so that you can step in and say what's going on.

00:48:47.480 And you can file the proper paperwork.

00:48:50.840 The law here is just incredible.

00:48:53.020 We could probably spend an hour just on that.

00:48:54.500 But what about the moment when you go, because you just went to visit them, your normal visit,

00:48:59.160 and they just were gone.

00:49:00.380 It was Friday.

00:49:01.260 What is this?

00:49:01.740 Were you panicked?

00:49:02.560 What did you go through as that happened?

00:49:06.020 I was mortified.

00:49:06.840 I mean, the newspaper was in the front.

00:49:10.640 The windows in their kitchen are usually open a little bit.

00:49:14.180 The blinds are open a certain way.

00:49:15.620 The house was just closed down.

00:49:19.000 I just knew right there and then something was terribly wrong.

00:49:22.220 I went to the Sun City, Aliente, the country club, the little house there where they would

00:49:29.260 go and have coffee, and I looked around for them.

00:49:32.000 And then I pulled myself together, and I drove home and told my husband, my parents have been

00:49:37.040 kidnapped.

00:49:37.640 That was just my gut reaction.

00:49:39.820 Something is terribly wrong here.

00:49:42.560 And you called police?

00:49:44.980 You know, hindsight's always 20-20.

00:49:49.200 I called hospitals first.

00:49:52.040 And the emotions that run with this are so high and low, the gamut of emotions, that my

00:50:00.660 thing was I wanted to get to an attorney.

00:50:02.680 I want to know what's going on, how people can walk in your home and take you and not

00:50:08.380 notify a relative that lives 15 minutes away from you.

00:50:11.700 So, your parents, you see them, and your dad is in the fetal position on the couch, and

00:50:17.980 your mom is crying.

00:50:20.060 And how long does it take you to fight to get your parents out?

00:50:27.060 Well, let me put it this way.

00:50:29.560 It took me approximately two years, and that only came after speaking out publicly to the

00:50:37.660 commissioners, to speaking out publicly, and getting two new legislative laws passed here.

00:50:45.280 One is that if you have a loved one, that you can, and you live out of state, you can

00:50:51.600 now become their guardian before that was not legal.

00:50:54.780 Yes.

00:50:55.040 The other, and the other one is that if you are going to be a private guardian, you have

00:51:00.120 to be licensed, insured, and bonded, and you can only have so many wards.

00:51:04.720 This woman that took my parents was spiraling out of control. 1.00

00:51:08.740 It's not enough for them to be greedy about it, but they are sociopaths.

00:51:14.240 They hurt people.

00:51:15.600 They isolate.

00:51:16.040 They trespass the family away from their loved ones on purpose, because they're getting bed

00:51:22.960 sores, bruises, broken limbs.

00:51:25.260 They're getting inserted feeding tubes.

00:51:27.880 It's cheaper to, you know, they save money that way.

00:51:31.500 They are accelerating the death, in my opinion, of the elderly, because they want their full 1.00

00:51:37.200 estate.

00:51:37.640 So, when they become a guardian, it's just somebody, this is a business, really, in Nevada.

00:51:47.640 This is a business all over the nation, and they're making billions of dollars, and right

00:51:54.400 now, the statistics say they have 1.5 million people under guardianship.

00:52:00.660 No matter how perfect your family is, or your estate documents were prepared, anyone can

00:52:06.700 be in a voluntary place into guardianship.

00:52:09.200 This happens all the time, nationwide.

00:52:12.480 Okay, I'm going to take a break, and then when you come back, I want you to explain, who

00:52:17.160 are these people?

00:52:18.120 How do they become a guardian?

00:52:21.180 And how does this happen when we come back?

00:52:30.660 If you go to at Glenn Beck or at World of Stewart, we're going to tweet this story from The New

00:52:33.920 Yorker.

00:52:34.500 It's lengthy, but it goes through all of it.

00:52:36.600 It is one of the most insane stories I've ever heard.

00:52:38.020 You will not believe it's happening.

00:52:39.840 You just won't believe it.

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00:54:03.540 Glenn Beck.

00:54:10.560 Glenn Beck.

00:54:11.520 Bill O'Reilly joins us in about 40 to 45 minutes to answer the, you know, $32 million question.

00:54:25.380 You don't want to miss that.

00:54:27.880 We have to be able to have something we believe in.

00:54:31.460 We have to know what the truth is.

00:54:33.600 Otherwise, things that happen to our guest now, Julie Belshi, and her parents will happen to you or your parents.

00:54:45.020 There is a guardian system that is happening all around the country.

00:54:51.660 And her experience was happening in Nevada.

00:54:54.420 She says that it happens all over the country.

00:54:56.840 Who are these guardians that can, you know, all of a sudden claim, lay claim to your parents or to you?

00:55:08.160 These guardians are people that don't have to have any formal education.

00:55:14.340 They can take a course that I believe is just maybe a week long.

00:55:20.180 And then they become a guardian.

00:55:22.420 These people are trained by the masterminds behind this.

00:55:28.620 Like I said before, this is collusion.

00:55:31.240 We have somebody here that's a mastermind.

00:55:34.200 His name is Jared Schaefer.

00:55:36.120 He is the head of it.

00:55:39.460 So they take them under their wings and they train them how to go in and open all the drawers

00:55:45.680 and take everything and deem these people, these elderly people, disabled people, or whoever they want, incompetent.

00:55:54.580 Is the concept here, looking at it from a theoretical perspective,

00:55:59.660 are they basically saying the elderly people can't take care of themselves,

00:56:03.560 so we're going to go in, we're going to take their stuff,

00:56:05.940 we're going to use that stuff to pay for their care because they're being neglected?

00:56:10.600 Is that essentially what they're trying to say they're doing?

00:56:12.760 That's what they're trying to say they're doing, but they're failing.

00:56:18.060 They keep saying it's in the best interest of the Lord.

00:56:21.020 Nothing's in the best interest of the Lord.

00:56:23.340 We have a private guardian.

00:56:25.460 We've gone from having several private guardians since I've gotten into this four years ago

00:56:30.780 to now there's only two private guardians, I believe, and the public guardian.

00:56:36.320 So we've essentially gone full circle and given the power back to the government, which they love.

00:56:43.040 So it's gone full circle.

00:56:44.860 So what happens is these people come in, and with your parents, they had a house on the golf course,

00:56:51.360 they had a new car, they had their money, and in a two-year period,

00:56:56.880 this woman came in, claimed to be their guardian because she just went to court, 1.00

00:57:02.140 and claimed to be the guardian, and then she liquidated all of those assets. 0.97

00:57:05.800 Within two years, your parents had nothing.

00:57:09.500 Correct.

00:57:11.180 And the thing is, it's so easy for the private guardians.

00:57:15.320 It was so easy, but now I believe, in my opinion, that they've reverted back to doing it again,

00:57:22.000 the family courts.

00:57:23.820 Okay.

00:57:24.140 They're all working together.

00:57:25.840 Okay.

00:57:26.140 So I want to go there when we come back.

00:57:29.760 I want to go there, and I want to talk about the court, because the court seemed to be,

00:57:35.360 I think, from the way the story reads at least, knowingly colluding.

00:57:41.300 But that's quite a charge to make, and I'd like to get your opinion on that

00:57:45.900 and see where the court stood, at least in Nevada.

00:57:54.940 Glenn Beck.

00:58:07.260 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:09.120 Julie Belshi, her parents, Rudy and Rennie North, were legally kidnapped.

00:58:17.480 They were put into the care of a court-appointed guardian who was a total stranger.

00:58:22.840 Julie lived just 15 minutes away, saw her parents regularly.

00:58:27.340 When they were kidnapped, she did go to police.

00:58:30.040 Police said that there's nothing they can do.

00:58:32.100 This is not a police matter.

00:58:33.580 This is a court situation, and she went, finally, after four days, she found her parents.

00:58:42.720 They were moved to a rest home, if you will, and over the two years that they were there,

00:58:52.660 they were prescribed all kinds of drugs, Valium, Prozac, sedatives, oxycodone, fentanyl.

00:58:59.180 You don't give fentanyl unless that's an end-of-life drug.

00:59:03.580 And her parents started to slip.

00:59:06.660 She finally was able to see her parents.

00:59:12.440 She was supposed to.

00:59:13.820 Can you help me out on this part, Julie?

00:59:15.240 You were supposed to go in and see your parents, I think, at one point.

00:59:20.260 And you got there at 9 o'clock.

00:59:22.720 They were supposed to move someplace.

00:59:24.360 You got there at 9 o'clock, and these guardians had moved several people, some of them screaming as they were thrown into a van in the middle of the night.

00:59:33.880 Yes, I can help you out on that.

00:59:36.880 When I had brought light to this with the help of Vegas Voice, which is a small senior paper here, I had to go to places because nobody would open the door for me.

00:59:52.760 If somebody had opened the door for me, Glenn, I wouldn't be talking to you today.

00:59:56.580 I had to go vocal.

00:59:59.800 And what happened was once this came out and I was going to court pro per se and representing my parents, April Parks, this private guardian, started moving people out of the assisted living facility and taking their animals. 0.97

01:00:18.000 And what we've heard, rumor has it, is putting them to sleep.

01:00:21.840 This is the only thing these people had.

01:00:25.040 I knew the majority of them, and the majority of them are no longer with us.

01:00:31.620 They were moved.

01:00:32.980 They were screaming.

01:00:34.040 They were told they were taking them.

01:00:35.680 One lady, they were taking her to the beauty salon. 1.00

01:00:38.700 They put her in a van.

01:00:39.940 She was screaming and yelling. 1.00

01:00:42.460 Another one was a chiropractor doctor from Carmel, California.

01:00:46.580 We don't know if he's alive or dead.

01:00:49.420 I can't get the information.

01:00:52.560 And she was just taking them, and she was threatening the director there that if she didn't go along with it, she's going to lose her job, too, because she can have her arrested. 0.96

01:01:03.420 You have to understand, these are people that are walking around on Earth that think they are these mini-gods.

01:01:09.720 They are sociopathic people.

01:01:11.680 Well, money's not enough, but then they have to hurt you, and they hurt the family along with this.

01:01:17.280 This is a family affair.

01:01:18.660 So this is, in reading this article at least, it appears as though this judge was either incompetent or was turning a blind eye to what was going on or part of it in some way.

01:01:32.900 I mean, the way this is, the way I understand it is, you can go and get the financial statements of people and find out who has money, who doesn't.

01:01:46.200 Then she would go to, correct me if I'm wrong, she would go to doctors, and she would target people and say, look, sign this because they're not paying or they're going to cost you a lot of money or whatever, and I'll take care of this. 0.96

01:02:01.060 And the doctors pretty much would sign anything to move on from a patient.

01:02:05.260 Is that true?

01:02:06.760 That is true.

01:02:07.480 That's correct.

01:02:08.500 This is collusion, and this is RICO.

01:02:11.180 This is human trafficking, okay? 0.81

01:02:13.240 This article, The New Yorker, is great, but it just touched on the tip of the iceberg, which is what we're doing today.

01:02:22.300 It goes so much deeper and so much more in-depth that it really makes you fix your stomach.

01:02:27.500 I mean, I've been hospitalized two times.

01:02:29.280 I had surgery on my stomach.

01:02:31.080 This is what gets under your skin.

01:02:32.680 It really does feel like a modern-day Holocaust. 0.89

01:02:35.980 You can't believe what you're reading.

01:02:37.920 You're like, what?

01:02:38.840 And your parents, now they are afraid to tell the doctors anything because they're afraid the doctor is going to put them back into some sort of a guardianship.

01:02:50.100 Yes and no.

01:02:51.020 We have a great doctor now.

01:02:52.380 I just think that after you've gone through a trauma, as our whole family has, that it comes with leaving you with post-traumatic stress syndrome.

01:03:04.800 So you are looking at every corner.

01:03:08.020 You're scared sometimes.

01:03:09.620 And, you know, one time my dad woke up in the middle of the night, and he said, I've got to get my stuff ready, my stuff ready.

01:03:17.440 And I said, Dad, what are you doing?

01:03:18.920 And he said, she's coming.

01:03:20.280 She's coming.

01:03:20.880 And I'm like, who's coming?

01:03:22.140 And he said, April Parks.

01:03:23.460 And I said, no, she's not.

01:03:25.780 But I really want to mention that what this took for me to get in the public eye was so tremendous.

01:03:34.520 I mean, it started off with The Vegas Voice with Dan Roberts and Ronna Goodman.

01:03:39.420 There's small paper here that they have a senior community paper.

01:03:44.180 And then I went and did seminars.

01:03:45.840 And then I got ABC, finally, an investigative producer, King Bowman, Darcy Spears, Oscar Paloma.

01:03:54.340 And then Al Jazeera came out.

01:03:56.580 Sheila McVeer, David Martin.

01:03:59.820 Yes, American Al Jazeera.

01:04:01.980 And I did a documentary for two and a half years that will be coming out this year.

01:04:06.360 Right now, we just submitted it to the Sundance Festival.

01:04:09.420 Billy Mintz was the director, J.B. Sugar, the producer.

01:04:13.040 We've worked on that for two and a half years.

01:04:15.840 I went to the Review Journal.

01:04:17.860 I'm now working with Kasem Cares Foundation, Carrie Kasem and Kathleen Wright Brown.

01:04:22.800 We've teamed up with AAAPG, Rick Black, and Sam Sugar.

01:04:27.220 This is what I do now.

01:04:28.680 I'm a guardian reform advocate, and I'm a grief support counselor.

01:04:31.940 So I get the calls from people that are so traumatized.

01:04:35.640 They don't know what to do.

01:04:36.700 They can't see their loved ones.

01:04:37.960 They've been trespassed.

01:04:38.980 And at Kasem Cares, what we're doing is we're passing visitation bills from state to state so that the adult children are allowed to see their loved one.

01:04:50.040 Okay, so what I would like to do is, first of all, your Twitter handle is at Julie Belshe, B-E-L-S-H-E-1, Julie Belshe1.

01:05:04.000 I guess that's what I'm new to Twitter.

01:05:05.960 That's all right.

01:05:06.440 What is the one thing, after you've gone through all of this, what is the one thing that, if you were worried it's going to happen to you or to your parents, that you can do to make sure that it doesn't?

01:05:21.980 Okay, well, what you can do is, in January, we've come up with a guardianship nomination form.

01:05:31.960 Okay, it's going to be in the secretary's state lockbox.

01:05:36.040 So if you went to the hospital, as opposed to them giving you to a guardian, now you can list who you want for your family or a friend to come, and that's your guardian.

01:05:49.560 What I can tell you is that to stay out of the court, stay out of probate court, and make sure no one ever gets close enough to your loved ones, or you, to drag you into their clutches.

01:06:03.580 And the elder law attorneys, they have three priorities.

01:06:06.540 They make money.

01:06:07.600 They build a network to help them make money.

01:06:10.220 They find clients to pay their bills.

01:06:12.060 Satisfying customers is in their priority.

01:06:15.080 Satisfying judges and fellow elder law attorneys is their network, and their state bar formalizes it.

01:06:21.560 No elder law attorney ever benefits from challenging a judge to go along to get along.

01:06:27.140 It ensures their career security.

01:06:29.920 Okay?

01:06:30.160 Now you have to take care of your family.

01:06:33.880 Stay close to them.

01:06:35.440 Call your family members.

01:06:37.080 The will, the estate, all the power of attorney, get those all taken care of immediately, and talk to your legislative, your politicians, and bring these subjects up, and go to the meetings, and find out what's going on.

01:06:54.440 I'm not doing this just for the elderly and the wards.

01:06:57.260 I have children.

01:06:58.420 I don't want this to happen to my children.

01:07:00.960 I mean, I don't want this to happen to anybody.

01:07:03.820 That's the only reason I'm speaking out about this.

01:07:07.080 Julie Belshi.

01:07:09.520 Thank you so much.

01:07:11.360 A guardian reform advocate whose parents, after two years of being kidnapped, have finally come home.

01:07:23.180 Wow.

01:07:24.020 You've got to read this story, too.

01:07:25.340 It's how the elderly lose their rights from the New Yorker. 0.97

01:07:27.720 Although, as she's pointed out, she's got a documentary coming out.

01:07:30.100 She's got...

01:07:31.720 You won't believe it.

01:07:32.940 ...finally has some attention on this.

01:07:33.480 You just won't believe it.

01:07:34.860 And fundamentally, for us, as we talk about these things, this is a government issue.

01:07:39.380 Right?

01:07:39.500 Like, this is not something that should be...

01:07:41.300 The government should have a power to work with any private organization to take away

01:07:46.140 your rights as a citizen without even informing the family.

01:07:49.900 I mean, as she talked about, she just went for a normal visit to go visit her parents.

01:07:54.680 They were gone.

01:07:55.540 And it took her days to find them.

01:07:57.220 And this person...

01:07:58.040 She probably thought they were dead.

01:07:58.540 By the way, this person is in jail now.

01:08:00.520 The person who did this is in jail now.

01:08:02.280 But it's phenomenal, because it's not...

01:08:07.460 At least in Nevada, it wasn't.

01:08:09.400 Now it is.

01:08:10.420 But it's unregulated in many states.

01:08:13.100 You can just sign up.

01:08:14.020 You can go someplace and just sign up to be a guardian.

01:08:17.320 And the reason why it was so bad in Nevada...

01:08:19.380 And I'll bet you it's bad in Arizona as well.

01:08:23.000 All these retirement communities.

01:08:25.280 So these bad people come from all over the country and like, I'm going to be a guardian.

01:08:28.980 And they just find out who has money, who has a family that is not living in state.

01:08:36.400 And they can come in and just get guardianship without you even knowing it.

01:08:42.380 They just go to court and say, this person is having these troubles and I need to be the

01:08:48.040 guardian.

01:08:48.540 And the court appoints them the guardian.

01:08:50.080 And then they just...

01:08:50.740 They have control of everything.

01:08:52.280 It's insane.

01:08:54.800 We'll have that story up at glenbeck.com and all the information that you need to make

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01:10:02.360 So Bill O'Reilly is joining us here in a few minutes.

01:10:23.720 I am, uh, I don't know, I, I, I, I talked to Bill over the weekend and had a good conversation

01:10:32.400 with him and I, I believe Bill, um, and, uh, you know, I've, I've dealt with this now

01:10:40.160 with people.

01:10:40.800 I mean, Roger Ailes was a hero of mine until I started to figure out who Roger Ailes really

01:10:44.640 was.

01:10:45.460 And I've, I've come out against Roger Ailes.

01:10:48.660 Uh, I have no problem in, I have loyalty only to the truth.

01:10:53.720 And I am also, um, a, um, somebody who grew up with abuse and, uh, without getting into

01:11:04.840 all of the details stood in my own family against abuse.

01:11:09.500 And, um, I've paid a high price for standing in my family against abuse.

01:11:16.840 And I am not afraid of standing up, uh, against abusers.

01:11:25.220 And I think it is important.

01:11:26.840 And I think it is important that we listen to the accusers, but no one has a right to be

01:11:33.620 believed.

01:11:34.600 You have a right to make a case and we have a responsibility to listen.

01:11:39.420 Um, uh, Bill O'Reilly is, uh, has had the New York times, uh, come out and do an article

01:11:48.500 with things that I think we already knew all of this.

01:11:51.920 Did we not still?

01:11:53.000 The big thing I guess is just the number on the settlement, which is the, probably the

01:11:56.760 biggest part of that accusation.

01:11:58.060 They're saying he paid and the way the time story is written, it seems like bill just like

01:12:02.040 pulled out 32 million from his wallet and handed it to Lee's wheel, um, in this, uh, harassment

01:12:07.760 suit.

01:12:08.160 And I, and I, and I think it was, uh, Gretchen Carlson who wrote, nobody pays $32 million to

01:12:15.640 dismiss a false accusation.

01:12:17.600 And that is, I would say the overwhelming, uh, complaint right now about, about bill.

01:12:23.740 Like everyone's saying like, yeah, you might be, I mean, it's not, he could be theoretically

01:12:26.960 innocent, but he would never pay that much money if he was innocent.

01:12:29.120 That is what they're saying.

01:12:30.020 Um, and I think that's the big question that he's going to, I don't know how much of it

01:12:34.340 he can answer.

01:12:35.040 Of course.

01:12:35.400 I mean, the way you could also take it, the way it's written is that it was multiple people

01:12:39.520 that she had accused and it was the Fox news channel.

01:12:42.040 Now the Fox news channel settles for, it would still be a large number in a settlement like

01:12:46.220 this Fox news channel is settling this.

01:12:48.440 They want this to go away.

01:12:50.040 It makes sense that the Fox news channel would, would settle for a huge number.

01:12:54.240 And if it was multiple people and all of these other things.

01:12:56.400 So I don't know.

01:12:57.220 I mean, I think that's a really important question and it's.

01:13:00.020 It's kind of strange, I guess, because all we're saying is, because I think everyone

01:13:03.200 would say if it was $32,000, people would say, well, it could have happened, but I can

01:13:07.780 understand he wanted to get it, make it go away.

01:13:09.380 It was $32,000.

01:13:10.260 It was three, $320,000.

01:13:12.180 Probably the same thing.

01:13:13.160 Probably the same thing at his pay level of $3 million.

01:13:17.740 It's, you know, it's still a lot.

01:13:19.260 It's a lot.

01:13:20.160 But okay.

01:13:21.160 You know, these things do those sorts of settlement numbers are $20 million a year for $3 million.

01:13:27.340 No.

01:13:28.540 $32 million is just so much money.

01:13:30.720 I think people are saying, well, it's so much money.

01:13:33.660 He must be guilty, which is another part of why settlements aren't supposed to come out

01:13:38.640 like this.

01:13:39.140 These things aren't supposed to come out.

01:13:40.380 Now, the way the Times story is written is we have this number based on people who have

01:13:45.960 been briefed.

01:13:47.220 So that's not people who had the documents in front of them.

01:13:49.940 Those are people who were briefed on the documents telling the Times, which seems potentially

01:13:54.120 third hand.

01:13:55.260 Yes.

01:13:55.760 Fourth hand information.

01:13:57.800 So again, you know, who knows?

01:13:59.400 And I don't know how much he can say about this.

01:14:01.000 And one of Bill's complaints in the story, and I'm sure he'll outline this, is they know

01:14:04.820 I can't fight it because he's legally bound not to talk about it.

01:14:09.280 So here's the so here's the problem.

01:14:11.600 He can't talk about it because he's legally bound.

01:14:14.880 Juliette Huddy was on today.

01:14:17.000 She was on Megyn Kelly.

01:14:18.440 She was talking about something and she's not allowed to talk about a settlement that

01:14:25.020 she made.

01:14:25.580 And yet she kind of did without talking about anything specifically.

01:14:32.740 She did talk about it.

01:14:35.120 And you kind of wonder, well, wait, if you're paid for a settlement, the time to talk was

01:14:42.760 before the settlement.

01:14:44.020 If you accept the settlement and the nondisclosure, well, then what is that worth?

01:14:49.560 I mean, when do I believe you?

01:14:51.600 When you took the money and said, OK, I'm going to sign this piece of paper.

01:14:55.840 Or now that you've signed that paper and you have the money and you say, oh, and I also

01:15:00.020 I want my cake and I and I'll eat it, too.

01:15:02.900 I mean, what happens to us and business and the courts?

01:15:07.800 Glenn Beck.

01:15:13.600 Love.

01:15:15.160 Courage.

01:15:16.620 Truth.

01:15:17.880 Glenn Beck.

01:15:18.620 There is no safe space from partisan politics anymore, not even a Cub Scout den.

01:15:25.160 Eleven-year-old Cub Scout Ames Mayfield from Broomfield, Colorado, been kicked out of his

01:15:30.640 den now.

01:15:31.380 According to his mother, Lori, he was asked to move to another den because of the questions

01:15:36.400 that he asked a state senator, a Republican, who was speaking to his den.

01:15:40.840 Ames asked the Republican, Vicki Marble, why she won't, quote, support common sense gun laws.

01:15:46.600 There is something wrong in our country where Republicans believe it's a right to own a

01:15:51.800 gun, but a privilege to have health care, end quote.

01:15:55.920 Now, I don't know about you, but that sounds like every 11-year-old boy I've ever been around.

01:16:01.360 They all speak just like that.

01:16:05.220 Ames read his questions and had lots of stats for the state senator from stapled documents.

01:16:12.580 He read for two and a half minutes before the senator was able to respond.

01:16:17.680 Naturally, Ames' mom captured the whole thing on video.

01:16:21.820 Now, if this is what you want to teach your kid, and that's fine, and, you know, whatever,

01:16:26.780 but we know this is coming from mom and dad.

01:16:30.500 And then she went and she posted it on social media.

01:16:33.960 Now, none of us are perfect parents, but perhaps Mrs. Mayfield could have thought ahead a little bit

01:16:40.840 that posting these videos online might stir up controversy and get the local media involved

01:16:46.820 and the other kids in the scout troop don't want to be a part of a political nightmare.

01:16:53.560 Maybe she could have predicted that this whole thing might rub some Cub Scout leaders the wrong way.

01:16:59.000 Unless all of this attention is precisely what you hoped for.

01:17:05.340 For young Ames, and perhaps herself.

01:17:08.820 After all, people might be more inclined to let a child finish their ridiculously long essay

01:17:13.580 on a pro-gun control question and a pro-government health care

01:17:17.780 than they would be inclined to listen to a middle-aged mom with an axe to grind. 1.00

01:17:23.040 But I have to ask Mrs. Mayfield this.

01:17:25.280 Is this worth what you've done is deny your child his experience at Cub Scouts?

01:17:35.680 Is that, was that worth it?

01:17:38.620 Is he better off for being your political mouthpiece?

01:17:43.040 Now, I'm no expert, but I know 11-year-old kids,

01:17:47.340 and I'm pretty sure they'd rather be with their friends at Scouts

01:17:50.160 than memorizing liberal talking points with you.

01:17:55.280 Monday, October 23rd.

01:18:02.580 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:18:06.280 Friend of the program and a friend of mine, Bill O'Reilly.

01:18:10.580 Welcome, sir. How are you?

01:18:12.740 Taking a beating, but still standing.

01:18:16.180 So, Bill, you and I spoke over the weekend, and I said to you that I wanted to ask you

01:18:22.560 some honest questions and just personal for me because I, you know, I don't know,

01:18:30.440 and anybody can lie to anybody, but you would be, I mean, you would be one of the greatest liars

01:18:37.080 ever because of the consistency of your lies, if you were lying to me,

01:18:42.400 and the consistency of your behavior around me and my staff, which we have toured together.

01:18:49.980 I have seen you on Friday nights.

01:18:53.560 I have seen you in hotels.

01:18:55.820 My staff has, and I have women that work for me, 1.00

01:18:59.280 and we've never had any problem whatsoever or an inkling that you might be one of those guys.

01:19:06.540 Yeah, well, I was in the, I have been in the broadcast business for 43 years, 12 different companies.

01:19:15.780 Never one time was there any complaint filed against me with human resources or anybody's legal team,

01:19:25.360 and nothing, zero.

01:19:26.640 Megan Kelley.

01:19:27.220 I think the track record speaks for itself, and I think that people, when they look at the statement

01:19:33.460 that we have posted on BillOReilly.com, when they look at the affidavit,

01:19:37.920 and now the three letters that I sent you, did you get the letters from Gretchen Paulson?

01:19:42.580 I did.

01:19:43.040 I wanted to know if I was allowed to publish them.

01:19:47.340 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:19:48.920 So what I'm trying to get across by coming on with you today are two things.

01:19:54.900 Number one, I want the story to go away because it's brutalizing my family.

01:19:59.880 And number two, I'm not going to run and hide because I didn't do anything wrong.

01:20:06.380 And I think that the evidence that we've put forth is very strong, very compelling,

01:20:11.040 that the New York Times wants to take me out of the marketplace.

01:20:17.200 This is the second time they've attacked me.

01:20:20.120 And the article on Sunday regurgitated the first article.

01:20:24.260 That was like 75% of it.

01:20:26.760 They had to run it twice in case you didn't get it last April.

01:20:30.740 And they know that I'm at a disadvantage because I can't comment specifically on any case that has been resolved.

01:20:41.020 That's one of the legal, compelling things that when you resolve something, it is always done in a nobody says anything.

01:21:01.320 And you know who knows that best?

01:21:02.920 The New York Times, because they've settled a number of harassment complaints in a confidential way.

01:21:12.440 Yet in their article on page one today, screaming about, well, we shouldn't have this kind of provision.

01:21:21.960 They don't mention that.

01:21:24.320 And they don't mention a lot of things.

01:21:26.100 So I think, go ahead.

01:21:30.080 So Bill, I want to ask you a couple of questions.

01:21:32.480 The biggest question that is on everybody's mind is, okay, you can settle, but $32 million coming out of your own pocket, nobody does that.

01:21:45.760 Right.

01:21:46.140 So what do you want me to say?

01:21:49.200 The only comment I could make on that issue without getting the thing back into a legal arena would be the first article that the New York Times wrote, quoted figures, and added them up.

01:22:07.800 And that it was wildly wrong.

01:22:11.620 But I can't confirm or deny anything, because once I do that, then it goes back into the legal arena, which you don't want.

01:22:21.460 And they know that.

01:22:22.880 So they could say whatever they want to say.

01:22:25.620 They know that.

01:22:26.300 They know where hamstrung my attorneys and investigative team. 0.91

01:22:30.300 We can't.

01:22:31.400 Was this settlement by you alone, or was Fox involved?

01:22:35.200 I can't, Beck, as I told you off the camera, I know you have to ask some questions for your audience.

01:22:40.180 I can't comment on any specific case at all.

01:22:43.960 If I could, I would.

01:22:45.340 But I cannot.

01:22:47.560 Can you tell me about the relationship that you had with Lee's will?

01:22:53.520 I have.

01:22:54.120 No, I cannot.

01:22:56.160 What we had, what we have posted, is an affidavit from Miss Wheel.

01:23:03.680 It's a worn affidavit.

01:23:05.280 Okay?

01:23:05.800 That's posted on BillOReilly.com.

01:23:08.100 That's it.

01:23:09.740 That was, we could post.

01:23:11.560 We did.

01:23:12.460 There it is.

01:23:13.680 And I can't speak to anything other than that.

01:23:21.660 I know it's frustrating.

01:23:22.880 You know, it's really frustrating because...

01:23:25.280 It is very frustrating for me.

01:23:27.040 You can imagine me sitting here, all right, being accused of everything under the sun.

01:23:31.680 And the end game is, let's link O'Reilly with Harvey Weinstein.

01:23:35.960 Let's make him that.

01:23:37.360 That's what we want to do.

01:23:39.040 All right?

01:23:39.400 And so we take him out of the marketplace forever.

01:23:41.800 He never gets to give his opinion on issues again.

01:23:45.540 And we take him out because we hate him.

01:23:47.860 And the New York Times obviously hates me.

01:23:50.700 It's dishonest in the extreme.

01:23:53.520 And it's frustrating for me.

01:23:55.720 But unless I want another seven or eight years of constant litigation that puts my children in a kill zone, I have to maintain my discipline.

01:24:07.080 The only reason, I can tell you this, Beck, in 20 years plus at the Fox News Channel, how long did you work there, by the way?

01:24:14.520 Four years.

01:24:15.360 Three years.

01:24:16.100 Okay.

01:24:16.620 Two years.

01:24:17.200 20 years.

01:24:17.580 Ten minutes.

01:24:18.100 I don't remember.

01:24:18.900 Six months.

01:24:19.900 All right.

01:24:20.660 20 years and six months.

01:24:22.160 I resolved three things.

01:24:24.940 That's all I resolved in 20 years and six months.

01:24:28.180 I resolved three things.

01:24:29.920 And the only reason I did resolve them was to keep my children safe.

01:24:35.260 So I can tell you that.

01:24:38.580 Okay.

01:24:39.360 So let me go one more place on this.

01:24:42.960 That's smaller than the reported number, Bill.

01:24:45.780 Are you saying that the reported number is inaccurate?

01:24:48.360 All I'm telling you is the truth.

01:24:50.500 20 years, six months, Fox News Channel.

01:24:53.120 I resolved three things.

01:24:55.360 That is the truth.

01:24:56.280 Bill, on the wheel affidavit, the New York Times fails to recognize here that this is a legal document, and she is a member of the bar, and that if she signs something that was not true, she should be disbarred.

01:25:21.380 She's not.

01:25:21.940 Well, it's worse than that.

01:25:23.800 And I'm not impugning or saying anything.

01:25:26.660 I'm talking in a general sense now.

01:25:28.620 She's not saying any of this, but the New York Times is just speaking for her.

01:25:33.500 Go ahead.

01:25:33.880 If any American citizen signs an affidavit that's notarized, all right, it's under the perjury law, so you can be prosecuted if what you're saying is not true, which is why the affidavit becomes so vitally important.

01:25:50.360 And here's the kicker.

01:25:51.840 We gave that to the New York Times.

01:25:54.260 They had that.

01:25:55.780 They did not print it.

01:25:57.340 Then their weasel reporter, their most dishonest man on the face of the earth, tweets out, oh, O'Reilly says we didn't mention the affidavit, and we did.

01:26:09.100 I didn't say you didn't mention it.

01:26:11.380 I said you didn't print it, and you should have printed it up top because that's the story.

01:26:18.300 But they didn't want that to be out because that wrecked their story, which they already had written, no matter what I said or gave them.

01:26:27.420 And we gave them an unbelievable amount of stuff from day one of my tenure with Fox News.

01:26:32.820 They know, but they don't care because this was a hit job to get me out of the marketplace.

01:26:38.540 And then you'll have the left go, oh, this is paranoid, oh, yeah, yeah.

01:26:42.480 Okay?

01:26:43.180 Get back that up 50 different ways.

01:26:45.200 Media Matters is involved.

01:26:48.000 CNN is involved.

01:26:49.780 I mean, and it's beyond any doubt.

01:26:54.300 So, again, I will tell everybody we've got our statement posted on BillOReilly.com.

01:26:58.820 We've got the affidavit posted.

01:27:00.760 We've got letters from Gretchen Carlson and Megyn Kelly to me posted.

01:27:06.260 Everything is there.

01:27:07.580 Okay.

01:27:07.940 If you still want to think I'm a bad guy, go ahead.

01:27:10.640 Okay.

01:27:11.060 Hang on.

01:27:11.500 The truth is the truth.

01:27:12.400 All right.

01:27:12.800 Hang on.

01:27:13.200 I have to take a break.

01:27:14.020 And then I want to come back and talk to you about what Megyn said today because this is a very separate issue.

01:27:20.320 But I think you should address that as well.

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01:28:39.400 Glenn Beck.

01:28:40.440 This is Megan Kelly on today's broadcast.

01:28:54.700 It's a malicious smear claiming that no woman in 20 years ever complained to human resources or legal about him.

01:29:01.460 Maybe that is true.

01:29:03.720 Fox News was not exactly a friendly environment for harassment victims who wanted to report, in my experience.

01:29:11.060 However, O'Reilly's suggestion that no one ever complained about his behavior is false.

01:29:16.160 I know because I complained.

01:29:18.920 It was November of 2016, the day my memoir was released.

01:29:22.320 In it, I included a chapter on Ailes and the sexual harassment scandal at Fox News, something the Murdochs knew I was doing and, to their credit, approved.

01:29:32.800 O'Reilly happened to be on CBS News that morning.

01:29:35.580 They asked him about my book and about Ailes, who by this time had been forced out in disgrace.

01:29:41.340 O'Reilly's response?

01:29:42.340 I'm not that interested in this.

01:29:45.520 No?

01:29:46.080 No, I mean, it's only for...

01:29:47.100 In sexual harassment?

01:29:47.860 You're not interested in sexual harassment?

01:29:48.840 I'm not interested in basically litigating something that is finished, that makes my network look bad.

01:29:56.320 Okay?

01:29:56.620 I'm not interested in making my network look bad at all.

01:30:01.200 That doesn't interest me one bit.

01:30:04.120 So, her complaint, Bill, that she filed was that you made it tough for people to come out against the network because of statements like that.

01:30:17.780 Number one, she didn't file a complaint.

01:30:20.680 Not that I know of.

01:30:22.520 It was never brought to our attention that Megyn Kelly did anything.

01:30:27.120 All right?

01:30:27.520 So, I'd like to see it because I don't believe that's true at all.

01:30:30.960 Number two, what she does not say is that there's an anonymous hotline, and there had been for years at Fox News, where anybody could have called up and said,

01:30:41.880 so-and-so is doing something to me, and you better stop it.

01:30:45.640 All right?

01:30:46.240 That's anonymous.

01:30:47.980 Doesn't mention it.

01:30:49.440 Number three, I'd like you to read the notes that I gave you back to your audience from Megyn Kelly to me, the personal notes.

01:30:57.400 Do you happen to have them in front of you?

01:30:59.100 Because my iPad just went down.

01:31:00.960 Convenient.

01:31:03.680 Hang on.

01:31:07.360 So, Megyn Kelly wrote to you,

01:31:10.420 Dear Bill, what a class act you are.

01:31:15.660 Something to my baby.

01:31:17.660 Please come to my baby shower.

01:31:19.880 No, no, no.

01:31:20.260 What a class act you are.

01:31:21.260 No, no, no.

01:31:21.400 Thank you.

01:31:22.940 Thank you for coming to my baby shower.

01:31:25.200 I was truly touched.

01:31:26.140 I know how busy you are, especially that time of the day.

01:31:28.640 It meant a lot to me.

01:31:30.020 And, Dory, thank you for the darling bodysuits and snugglies.

01:31:36.020 It's kind.

01:31:36.640 No, it's hard to believe, soon have a little human being in our lives to fit into those.

01:31:44.980 I've become, you've become a dear friend, no matter what they say.

01:31:49.680 And I am grateful to have you in my life.

01:31:52.000 Megyn Kelly.

01:31:53.920 Just so.

01:31:54.620 Letter number one.

01:31:55.540 Okay.

01:31:55.820 And letter number two.

01:31:56.720 Letter number two.

01:31:57.780 Thank you for the something on Dory's book.

01:32:02.580 Mention.

01:32:03.020 Thank you.

01:32:03.580 Thank you for the mention on Doug's book.

01:32:05.960 Doug is her husband.

01:32:06.660 Doug's book.

01:32:07.240 Okay.

01:32:07.780 I, uh, I realized you didn't have to do that, especially after mentioning it already.

01:32:11.560 I appreciate how supportive you have been to me over the years here at Fox news.

01:32:15.500 You're a true friend and mentor.

01:32:17.380 And I want to give one more letter.

01:32:18.860 This is the one, and these are going to be published up at the blaze and glenbeck.com.

01:32:22.440 Uh, this one is from Gretchen Carlson.

01:32:25.140 Uh, Bill, thank you for being the calm in the sea.

01:32:28.780 Thank you so much for supporting me.

01:32:30.760 Thank you for being my friend.

01:32:32.300 It means the world to me, GC.

01:32:35.500 Yep.

01:32:35.940 So look, I think that anybody, any fair-minded person, and I really appreciate you reading

01:32:41.840 those to your listeners.

01:32:43.860 Um, I think that they can now start to formulate a picture here because the behavior that you

01:32:50.820 pointed out at the beginning of the, uh, 11 o'clock hour Eastern time is on the record

01:32:56.940 43 years, no complaints, 12 different companies.

01:33:01.860 And then you, glenbeck know me now for what?

01:33:05.800 10 years, 12 years.

01:33:07.260 Yes.

01:33:07.540 I'm like, you've been with me on the road.

01:33:09.260 You know what I am.

01:33:10.400 You know what I do.

01:33:11.200 And now with the statement we provided on billoreilly.com with the affidavit, the sworn affidavit, and with

01:33:17.960 these three, uh, letters to a Megan Kelly and one by Gretchen Carlson, a picture should

01:33:23.420 start to emerge, uh, for any fair-minded person.

01:33:27.460 And that's all I can hope for, that the American people will see that this is a attack on an

01:33:36.860 American citizen, me, for political purposes.

01:33:40.740 And you know what?

01:33:41.640 It's done enormous damage to me and to my family, and it is a horror and should never happen in

01:33:49.020 our country.

01:33:49.740 Bill, what happens if, what happens if companies settle lawsuits and then the affidavits and

01:33:57.860 the non-disclosures don't mean anything?

01:34:01.380 Well, it's over now.

01:34:03.540 Anybody who would be settling anything now is insane because, in my case, all the confidentiality

01:34:11.020 stuff was, was violated.

01:34:12.720 You told, you told me about a year ago, the biggest mistake you made was settling.

01:34:17.400 So is this a good thing?

01:34:19.020 Is this a good thing or not?

01:34:21.720 No, I, if I had to do it all over again, I never would have done it, but you've got to

01:34:25.420 understand how much pain this brings children.

01:34:28.000 And I thought I could spare my children that.

01:34:30.060 I'd do anything for my children, anything to protect them.

01:34:33.100 I'd give up my life for my children.

01:34:35.280 And that's why I did it.

01:34:38.000 But we actually thought that people would uphold their oath and what they agreed to, and they

01:34:47.400 haven't.

01:34:48.480 But let me get back to Megyn Kelly for a moment.

01:34:50.960 I never had any problem with Megyn Kelly. 0.92

01:34:53.140 In fact, when she was getting hammered earlier this year, I wrote a column sticking up for

01:34:58.240 her.

01:34:58.460 You know, I don't, I don't know why Megyn Kelly is doing what she's doing. 1.00

01:35:03.920 I don't know why I've helped her dramatically in her career.

01:35:08.680 I gave her the name of her show, the Kelly file.

01:35:11.180 She actually did a charity event for me.

01:35:14.020 I mean, it is just incomprehensible.

01:35:17.680 Bill O'Reilly from BillOReilly.com.

01:35:19.520 We'll talk to you again, Bill.

01:35:21.700 Try to have a better day.

01:35:23.480 God bless.

01:35:25.120 Back in a minute.

01:35:29.940 Glenn Beck.

01:35:31.900 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

01:35:41.120 I am so torn on this.

01:35:43.720 Welcome to Pat Gray, who does the program following my radio broadcast on the Blaze radio network.

01:35:51.000 I'm really torn here because I do not want to enable a bad guy.

01:35:58.520 I respect Megyn Kelly.

01:36:03.160 I respect Gretchen Carlson. 0.65

01:36:04.660 I do not stand with Roger Ailes, who, you know, Pat, was a hero of mine for a while.

01:36:10.600 I mean, I thought this guy was one of the greatest guys since sliced bread.

01:36:13.340 Yeah.

01:36:13.820 He was a great con man.

01:36:15.220 And he was really a smart businessman, and he knew broadcasting inside and out.

01:36:21.480 Yeah.

01:36:21.720 And once the con was revealed, I was like, oh, my gosh.

01:36:26.420 Oh, my gosh.

01:36:27.240 This guy is, as I have put it before, the most disappointing human being in my lifetime.

01:36:32.420 He's kind of an evil genius.

01:36:33.560 Yeah, he was.

01:36:34.160 So and I and I'm glad to see that it is now being shown that there are women involved in this cover up at Fox.

01:36:45.300 Some really bad names at Fox have come to light today.

01:36:51.020 And and and I agree with exposing those people.

01:36:57.380 I just don't think Bill is one of those people.

01:36:59.440 Neither do I.

01:36:59.940 I mean, based on everything we know of him and have seen of him, we toured with him.

01:37:04.120 How many times we must have done four or five different tours with him and all over the country, all over the country, in hotels, never once saw any indication of that kind of behavior.

01:37:14.580 None.

01:37:14.840 None.

01:37:15.480 Like the most polite, old school gentleman like doesn't hug people like, you know, I'm the guy.

01:37:22.700 Everybody comes up and hugs and I hug back.

01:37:24.680 And he just looked at me like, what are you doing?

01:37:26.880 I mean, doesn't he just not he is an old school kind of guy.

01:37:31.380 Yeah, very much so.

01:37:32.780 And I I can't help but believe him now because because of what we know of him and he's pretty adamant and he's got some good evidence backing him up like what he just read from Megan.

01:37:43.900 Now, if if you've sexually harassed somebody or aided somebody else in harassing somebody, they don't usually write to you about what a good friend you are.

01:37:51.740 And Megan is not alleging that, by the way.

01:37:53.800 I mean, she's not saying that she was harassed by Bill.

01:37:55.960 No, she was kind of saying Roger Ailes.

01:37:58.360 Right.

01:37:58.680 And and she did say she was harassed by Roger Ailes.

01:38:02.120 She said that, you know, after her memoir came out, that Bill made it harder for people to come out and defend because.

01:38:13.340 Wow.

01:38:13.760 He was, you know, saying, hey, don't trash the company.

01:38:16.780 Yeah.

01:38:17.360 What are you doing?

01:38:18.280 And and I kind of see I while I don't agree with him, I can see it from his point of view, because Fox was always under attack.

01:38:27.540 And so you never knew what's real, what's not.

01:38:30.420 You have to be really careful because sometimes the attack is real.

01:38:35.480 Sometimes the attack is not.

01:38:37.800 But it's almost always politically motivated.

01:38:41.280 Right.

01:38:41.720 And the letters don't prove that nothing.

01:38:43.820 He never did anything wrong.

01:38:44.940 I mean, it proves that they had a decent relationship at one point, seemingly.

01:38:49.040 But, you know, who knows with that stuff?

01:38:51.020 Because I'm sure their their complaint on that would be, well, well, we was powerful and these are the same forces.

01:38:55.680 Why do you hate Bill O'Reilly's, too?

01:38:56.600 I don't.

01:38:57.140 I don't.

01:38:57.800 No, no.

01:38:58.160 But Gretchen, here's the here's the key. 0.99

01:39:01.040 The ones that are making the rounds today, Gretchen Carlson and Megan Kelly, they're not accusing him of anything, nor have they ever accused him of anything.

01:39:09.460 That's true.

01:39:09.840 You know, she's saying what Gretchen is saying now, who I mean, let me read this.

01:39:14.800 Let me read this letter again.

01:39:15.860 And this I think this is an exclusive you can find up on the blaze.

01:39:21.100 If it's not there yet, it will be soon.

01:39:24.680 Let's see here.

01:39:25.460 Hang on just a second.

01:39:30.920 She wrote Gretchen wrote, Bill, thank you for being the calm in the sea.

01:39:35.500 Thank you so much for supporting me.

01:39:37.560 Thank you for being my friend.

01:39:39.580 It means the world to me.

01:39:41.240 Now, how do you go from that to now on television saying, well, you know what, if he was settling this case, then, you know, you you you got to be doing something.

01:39:55.040 Well, no, that's not the standard company settled cases all the time.

01:40:02.120 And sometimes they settle them and they're guilty.

01:40:05.280 Sometimes they settle them and they're absolutely not guilty.

01:40:08.120 You know, I don't know the ins and outs of this case.

01:40:13.360 Bill can't tell you the ins and outs of this case because otherwise Bill is is is violating confidentiality.

01:40:20.740 So suspend the confidentiality and return the money, but suspend the confidentiality or let him suspend the confidentiality and you keep the money.

01:40:33.760 I mean, it's it's wrong.

01:40:35.200 The guy can't answer for for anything.

01:40:37.240 He can't say what he knows to defend himself.

01:40:41.080 That throws the entire court system out.

01:40:43.840 It throws everything out the window.

01:40:47.820 Yeah.

01:40:47.920 And we know that they're good at leaking information.

01:40:50.180 They're good at getting stuff out there that that they want to have out there and and still claiming innocence.

01:40:58.540 Fox did that all the time.

01:41:00.180 Are they doing that with Lee's wheel now?

01:41:01.680 I don't know.

01:41:02.180 Well, I will tell you that I think that the the Murdochs do not like Bill O'Reilly, the Murdoch kids.

01:41:09.540 They never have.

01:41:10.960 Yeah.

01:41:11.140 When they saw him, when they saw him, this my my guess when they saw him on on Sean Hannity and he made them number one again for the first time since he left.

01:41:23.160 I think he and others realized, holy cow, this guy still has clout.

01:41:29.560 Yeah.

01:41:29.880 You know, when he's number one on the New York Times bestseller list for three weeks in a row.

01:41:34.860 Holy cow. 0.89

01:41:35.500 This guy still has clout.

01:41:37.500 He didn't go anywhere.

01:41:39.380 He's just off of our front page.

01:41:42.280 And I think that scared a lot of people.

01:41:45.100 Look, the two things here, I think that are pretty interesting coming out of that.

01:41:48.020 One, the big question everyone has is, why would anybody spend thirty two million dollars to get rid of a false claim?

01:41:56.260 That seems completely ridiculous.

01:41:57.640 Now, Exxon might do it right.

01:41:59.120 Like Exxon might have some chemical oil leak somewhere and they just push thirty two million dollars because they don't they don't care.

01:42:05.560 But a person would never do that.

01:42:08.160 And that's an understandable thing.

01:42:11.120 He is claiming that that some of the numbers in the New York Times articles are incorrect.

01:42:16.600 Now, I don't know if that means that if it's because of the money came from Fox News, who is a huge corporation, right?

01:42:22.780 News Corp and would maybe settle something like that.

01:42:26.080 Or if it was multiple people, we I don't or if the number is just completely wrong.

01:42:30.220 I don't know.

01:42:30.700 He said he couldn't explain it.

01:42:32.180 At some point, we have to get to the bottom of that.

01:42:34.260 And by the way, we should point out the New York Times in their story says this is according to two people briefed on the matter.

01:42:42.160 Yeah.

01:42:42.520 It is not a sign an affidavit.

01:42:43.980 It wasn't true.

01:42:44.680 Yeah.

01:42:44.800 And she signed an affidavit.

01:42:45.680 She said it wasn't true.

01:42:46.940 No, here's the affidavit.

01:42:47.980 I have the affidavit.

01:42:49.240 Here's the affidavit.

01:42:50.360 I mean, she's a she's an attorney, Pat.

01:42:52.760 Right.

01:42:53.220 She's an attorney.

01:42:53.980 She should be disbarred.

01:42:55.460 Right.

01:42:56.220 Yes.

01:42:56.680 If this is if this is a lie.

01:42:59.240 Yeah.

01:42:59.600 Yeah.

01:42:59.820 I mean, you can't you can't lie under it.

01:43:01.660 We all know.

01:43:02.140 Read it.

01:43:02.600 Lease wheel being duly sworn deposes in states under the penalty of perjury.

01:43:07.320 So, yeah, it's bigger than just being disbarred.

01:43:10.320 Number one, I've known Bill O'Reilly for over 18 years.

01:43:12.680 We've worked together, we've socialized, and on occasion, I gave him legal advice.

01:43:17.060 Number two, at the end of 2016, I hired a counsel who prepared a draft complaint asserting claims against Bill O'Reilly.

01:43:23.840 We have since resolved all of our issues.

01:43:26.120 I would no longer make the allegations contained in the draft complaint.

01:43:30.040 Additionally, over the years, while I was acting as Bill O'Reilly's counsel, he forwarded to me certain explicit emails that were sent to him.

01:43:39.180 And any advice sought or rendered is attorney client privileged, confidential and private.

01:43:44.060 I have no claims against Bill O'Reilly concerning any of those emails or any of the allegations in the draft.

01:43:49.500 So, that goes to, you know, he sent me gay porn, et cetera, et cetera.

01:43:54.180 She was the attorney.

01:43:55.560 Wow.

01:43:55.980 He said, what do I do with this?

01:43:58.480 Right.

01:43:58.760 He was saying he was getting harassment from people.

01:44:00.660 I will tell you.

01:44:01.660 And he was forwarding it to his attorney.

01:44:02.960 I will tell you, I have done that.

01:44:05.780 You have done that, Pat.

01:44:07.580 You didn't send it to your attorney, but you have sent it, or at least you brought it up to me and said, I'm getting all of this bad stuff.

01:44:14.500 What do I do?

01:44:15.660 I don't know about gay porn, but it was a threat. 1.00

01:44:17.640 It certainly poured into this place.

01:44:20.200 And porn.

01:44:21.420 Remember porn?

01:44:22.300 You were attacked by porn.

01:44:23.580 Oh, yeah.

01:44:23.780 One of your old websites, right?

01:44:24.960 Yes.

01:44:25.140 It was actually two million.

01:44:27.560 Two million websites were placed on my old site.

01:44:30.900 Just the two million, though.

01:44:31.840 Just two million.

01:44:32.060 Which of the two million was the best did you find?

01:44:33.820 I can't speak to all two million.

01:44:38.580 Just the ones I went over with a fine tooth comb.

01:44:40.740 All right.

01:44:41.700 So, first of all, he's saying, everyone's saying, like, well, you can't believe him.

01:44:45.360 He's saying $32 million.

01:44:46.540 Well, he's saying the numbers were wrong, although he can't be specific.

01:44:50.300 So, I don't know what the truth is on that one.

01:44:52.740 So, that's part one.

01:44:54.180 Part two is he said specifically, this is why I pushed him on this.

01:44:58.920 He said he had settled three cases in his entire time.

01:45:03.040 The New York Times story says it was at least the sixth agreement.

01:45:07.120 So, I don't, again, like, this is a very specific fact that, theoretically, they could, I mean, you'd think the New York Times would have to have evidence of all of those, and maybe they do.

01:45:19.080 I mean, you know, I'm concerned about the wording of this.

01:45:21.540 And let's just take the best case from the New York Times for a second.

01:45:23.820 They think Bill O'Reilly's a terrible guy.

01:45:25.380 They totally believe all of his claims.

01:45:26.520 They're outing.

01:45:27.320 Okay.

01:45:27.520 They say struck a $32 million agreement with a longtime network analyst to settle new sexual harassment allegations, that's from last year, according to two people briefed on the matter.

01:45:39.440 Seemingly, the way that information came to them would indicate that the possibility that maybe that sort of nuance gets erased if it's multiple people, if it's from the company instead of just Bill O'Reilly's pocket.

01:45:52.820 Again, like, they're talking about people who have been briefed on it.

01:45:55.300 They're not even people holding the documents in their hands reading it to the New York Times.

01:45:57.880 The New York Times has not seen it.

01:45:59.360 At least the way that's written, it doesn't seem like they've seen it, right?

01:46:01.880 According to two people briefed on the matter?

01:46:04.580 I mean, that's a different standard.

01:46:06.180 So, even with the best intentions, the New York Times might not have that exact thing right, which I would say is the biggest thing in the article.

01:46:13.220 The rest of it, we knew that these cases had been going on.

01:46:16.580 And we knew he settled with some people.

01:46:18.000 And we knew he had settled.

01:46:18.940 But the thing that's really, I think, convincing people off of this, of Bill's guilt, is the fact that he would take $32 million out of his own bank account and hand it to this one person.

01:46:27.480 Which I don't even think that's possible.

01:46:28.960 That's a lot of money.

01:46:29.760 Bill makes a lot of money.

01:46:30.480 But $32 million to give to one?

01:46:33.040 Come on.

01:46:33.760 Do you think Bill O'Reilly was touring with me because he had $32 million in the bank that he could squander?

01:46:42.340 That he could squander $32 million?

01:46:44.700 No.

01:46:46.160 No.

01:46:46.640 I don't know.

01:46:48.500 I think that's an interesting part.

01:46:50.500 And again, that is a factual, I mean, he wasn't calling out the New York Times.

01:46:54.840 He wasn't saying specifically these people are lying.

01:46:56.980 But this is the sentence.

01:46:58.240 It was at least the sixth agreement, and by far the largest, made by Mr. O'Reilly or the company to settle harassment allegations against him.

01:47:06.020 So, again, unless they're lumping other things in.

01:47:08.360 So, he said we should call the New York Times for a comment.

01:47:13.300 Bill O'Reilly said unequivocally that he has only settled three in 20 years.

01:47:21.340 And those are the three that we have known about.

01:47:23.860 And are those the $13 million figure we keep hearing about?

01:47:27.220 I guess.

01:47:27.940 I don't know.

01:47:28.220 Is that what that is?

01:47:28.540 I don't know.

01:47:29.260 I don't know.

01:47:30.020 Because $32 million jacks that up a lot.

01:47:33.200 Yeah.

01:47:33.320 And there's no, I don't think there's any way that came out of Bill's own account.

01:47:36.280 No way.

01:47:37.100 Yeah, they said.

01:47:37.680 No way.

01:47:38.540 Publicly known harassment settlements involving Mr. O'Reilly have been $45 million total.

01:47:42.560 And that's $32 million from this one case.

01:47:44.660 Come on.

01:47:45.120 There's no way.

01:47:45.640 No way.

01:47:46.220 There's no way.

01:47:46.940 Huh.

01:47:47.300 It's just, it's hard to know because there's so many things that you can't hear.

01:47:52.500 You can't hear details from the person involved.

01:47:55.040 The New York Times isn't exactly outlining this in a way that seems like they have all the detail either.

01:48:01.120 And yet, what are we doing?

01:48:03.320 We're destroying people's lives.

01:48:06.200 We're destroying his life, his children's life.

01:48:11.660 We're destroying their life.

01:48:14.880 Liz, if she's not a part of this, if she's not doing this, then her life is going to be wrecked.

01:48:23.020 And apparently she's not.

01:48:23.980 This is pretty compelling proof right here.

01:48:25.960 I think the affidavit's pretty powerful.

01:48:27.800 She would be disbarred.

01:48:29.880 Yeah.

01:48:30.100 If she is involved in this at all, she'd be disbarred.

01:48:34.060 Perjury.

01:48:34.460 You could go to jail.

01:48:35.440 Right.

01:48:35.760 It could be some associate of hers who had access to the documents.

01:48:38.900 Because we don't know how they got to the New York Times.

01:48:41.580 I mean, again, we don't know.

01:48:43.200 It's a really, it's a weird case.

01:48:47.040 And I think all of us would agree that if Bill O'Reilly is this terrible person, we want his life destroyed.

01:48:52.700 I mean, if he is this terrible person, I think he should.

01:48:54.640 I want him to pay the price.

01:48:55.900 I don't want anyone's life destroyed.

01:48:57.520 I don't want Harvey Weinstein's life destroyed.

01:49:00.940 I want him to pay.

01:49:01.800 If he did those things, if he's a rapist, you know what?

01:49:04.020 His life is going to wind up behind bars, and it should be, right?

01:49:06.720 For the end of time, that's life destroyed material.

01:49:09.020 I want him to receive the consequence.

01:49:10.720 Well, I mean, if you're parsing the difference between life in prison and life being destroyed, I get it.

01:49:14.980 But yes, I mean, maybe he could.

01:49:16.860 What I'm emphasizing, because we seem to be a vigilante society right now.

01:49:21.720 Right.

01:49:21.880 I'm trying to emphasize, I want the justice system to work.

01:49:27.120 We cannot be.

01:49:28.480 I mean, I'm sitting here today, and, you know, Stu keeps looking at me like, relax, relax.

01:49:33.460 And I'm like, this is really important.

01:49:35.960 This is really important.

01:49:37.340 I'm between two friends.

01:49:40.000 Not that you're trying to stop me or anything like that.

01:49:42.760 But I'm between two friends.

01:49:45.120 Man, I'm having deja vu like crazy.

01:49:49.120 Having two friends that I'm between right now.

01:49:51.880 Megyn Kelly, who I love and respect.

01:49:54.420 Bill O'Reilly, who I love and respect.

01:49:57.400 One is imaging the other like a total dirtbag.

01:50:02.300 I don't, if that's true, I don't want to be a part of a dirtbag and furthering this.

01:50:07.840 I am somebody who have paid a personal high, very high cost for my stance against abuse in my own life.

01:50:17.940 The last thing I want to do is forward abuse on the radio and in my work.

01:50:24.800 But I don't know what to do, and I'm not qualified to do it because no one can talk to me about what the truth is.

01:50:32.340 So what do we do?

01:50:33.980 Yeah.

01:50:35.120 All right.

01:50:36.060 Thanks, Pat.

01:50:36.640 We'll talk to you in a little while.

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 23, 2017

10⧸23⧸17 - 'The Evil Genius'？ (Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly & Julie Belshe join Glenn )

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