10⧸30⧸17 - Good day for President Trump? (Charlie Sykes & Andy McCarthy join Glenn)
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 52 minutes
Words per Minute
147.77661
Summary
Two men have been charged with conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, false statements, and conspiracy to commit tax evasion. Paul J. Manaf and Richard W. Gates Jr. have been accused of conspiracy to defraud the US government, tax evasion, and failure to disclose their foreign lobbying work.
Transcript
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The rumors began circulating earlier this weekend.
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Indictments in Robert Mueller's Russia collusion investigation were coming.
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About 30 minutes ago, we found out exactly what happened.
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Here's a scoop of all scoops to pull over to the side of the road because,
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whoa, you're going to find this one hard to believe.
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Yeah, I know. I know. Hard to wrap your head around.
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Paul Manafort and one of his former business associates were told to surrender to federal authorities this morning.
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Manafort allegedly set up companies in Cyprus to receive payments from politicians and business people in Eastern Europe.
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Since 2006, Manafort has been known for working with wealthy oligarchs in Russia,
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as well as the now deposed former president in the Ukraine.
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The FBI has reportedly been on Manafort's trail since 2014,
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and it appears they may now have a solid case for tax evasion, money laundering,
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The reason this is no surprise is pretty simple.
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We knew about it before he even joined the Trump campaign.
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had been lobbying and consulting for foreign individuals and governments for decades.
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It is one of the reasons why we warned you that Donald Trump could be impeached
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and Manafort would be at the center of it before he was even elected.
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Some of these people, like the former Ukrainian president,
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are a little less than reputable, shall we say.
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This is almost literally the tax evasion against Al Capone.
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and they are sending signals that they're going to go after him with absolutely everything,
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which, to me, signals they're looking to flip him.
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Why on earth the Trump campaign decided to hire a man with this much baggage to run,
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but there is something missing from this first indictment.
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So Stu's been looking at what is coming across the wire now
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Yeah, Paul J. Manafort, Jr., 68, of Alexandria, Virginia,
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and Richard W. Gates III, 45, of Richmond, Virginia.
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He's really seen as like a pupil, right, of Manafort, like an understudy.
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They've been indicted by a federal grand jury in the District of Columbia.
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Okay, so that comes from he should have registered as a foreign agent,
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meaning that he was doing work for a foreign government,
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False statements and seven counts of failure to file reports
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Okay, so the conspiracy to launder money, I think, is absolutely true.
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he was not reporting the money that he was getting.
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In fact, we had to get it from the former Ukrainian Republic,
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but it came out of the files from the former president
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and found that they were paying him millions and millions.
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Tens of millions of dollars for his assistance,
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And really large financial transactions that are unexplained.
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So, you know, he was fired essentially over his ties
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with these shady dealings with Russia, Ukraine, etc.
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And now, you know, the Trump administration wants you to know,
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I think the explanations will be a little bit different today
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But, you know, it really comes down to, you know,
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whether they can get, you mentioned it in your monologue,
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I mean, I think Mueller's trying to get him to testify against other people
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We need to get Andy McCarthy on because he's a guy who has been following this.
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And I'd like to even know what the conspiracy against the United States,
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I'm trying to, because I think I know who Paul Manafort is,
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and I'm trying to think of, you know, how that plays in.
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And unless that is, unless they have him on something
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trying to lead that change of policy toward Russia.
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Remember, during the campaign, Trump all of a sudden flipped
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I mean, maybe they have something there that showed that he was affecting policy
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And this goes back to, you know, who Manafort is and who Roger Stone is.
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doing really shady things in Washington for, since Reagan.
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And this was essentially Stone, I mean, by all reports,
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Stone's influence over Trump because they didn't like Lewandowski,
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So they got rid of Lewandowski, brought in Manafort.
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Stone had been an ally of Trump's for a long time,
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Like, I mean, they were, they had tight connections,
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You know, I think Trump liked the connection to the Washington world
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And Stone was a guy who was trying to convince Donald Trump
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I mean, he likes people around him who say great things about him.
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you got to run, you got to run, you got to run,
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And Stone created a lobbying firm with Manafort back in the day
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that was known to be very, on the borderlines of legality
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They operated a little bit on the fringes at times,
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because this is, they started this when they had real influence.
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Because, I mean, back in the day, he had real influence, Roger Stone.
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and over time, he was kind of, he had so many weird scandals
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and so many ethical questions that people were starting to shy away from him.
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Now, a lot of people believe that was to give them this sort of step of separation
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so that Stone could do his work without having to sully Trump, right?
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But, I mean, whatever, Trump was, and I think Stone,
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I shouldn't be this close to you if you're actually going to win this thing.
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But Manafort was the more controlled of the two.
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and it took a while until they actually got rid of him,
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and that's when Bannon and Kellyanne Conway came in.
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But, I mean, that's a, it's a long circle there,
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when they pulled all that stuff out of his house.
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I mean, this is a guy who's the campaign manager
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are they trying to just essentially pressure Manafort
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to say other things about other people in the campaign?
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Conspiracy against the United States of America.
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I'll turn over anything you want, any documents.
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which is, I believe, them trying to send a message,
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we're going after you with everything the government has.
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And they always try to get one of the big fish first,
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there is one thing that leads you to collusion.
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Now, maybe conspiracy against the United States
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Let me give you the timeline for Paul Manafort.
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In 2006, he began working for a Russian oligarch
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Paul Manafort is one degree away from Vladimir Putin.
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I said, just grab the Paul Manafort file that we have.
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and said, you have to know who Paul Manafort is.
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So if you remember the uprising in the Ukraine,
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This is Putin trying to take the Ukraine again.
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And they were revolting against their president.
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Well, who was the main hand behind that president?
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because they know how close he is to Vladimir Putin.
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Now, this was discontinued at some point in 2016,
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long before he is part of anything with Donald Trump.
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and could lead to real trouble for Donald Trump
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the FBI renewed their investigation on Manafort
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Manafort was in that meeting at the Trump Tower.
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Everybody concentrates on the woman in that meeting.
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but nothing during the actual campaign with Trump.
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doesn't mean that you need to defend every single
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rationalize or look the other way charlie thank
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manafort and a guy that uh worked with him and it is
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on trump's part it is just here's a really bad guy
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who had deep ties to uh putin and was laundering money
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that is not the same as collusion however i think the
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reason why muller uh pulled this is he's looking to flip
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they did know exactly who was in that office on trump tower
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because you have to remember manafort was there and he knew
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who those guys were he knew their ties to putin he knew their ties to the
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there is no difference between that and what donald trump was trying to do
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now there are a lot of people that don't believe that he
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knew anything about it i don't believe that for a second