11⧸1⧸18 - Best of Program - Guests, Bill O'Reilly & Paul Bois
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Bill O'Reilly joins the show to talk about the disappearance of two Saudi students, Jon Stewart and Dave Chappelle sit down with CNN's Christiane Anambour, and Paul Boyce from The Daily Wire asks if Pope Francis is a communist.
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We start with two Saudi students that have been, they've gone missing.
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Yeah. Saudis are very curious. They're on it. They want America to know.
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Well, these two Saudi students from Virginia, they go in, they ask the United States for asylum.
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You know, they disappear in Virginia and somehow or another they end up duct taped to each other.
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On the side of a river in New York, Saudis are on it.
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A look at some of the issues that happened this week.
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He's going to be, by the way, joining us for our election coverage, which starts at 6 p.m.
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But he's going to talk a little bit about that.
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Also, we're going to the election by the numbers as well.
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The updates, there's a couple, we moved two Senate races from leaners to toss-ups and vice versa.
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Also, give you a download of how the House looks if you use the prediction markets.
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And a lot of times, these seem to be more interesting to look at than the polls.
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And Paul Boyce from The Daily Wire on, is the Pope a communist?
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Well, whatever your politics, you can't deny that Jon Stewart has a history of attacking the hypocrisy and high ideals of journalism for his, you know, subversive approach to media criticism.
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Does that mean anything in the era of President Donald Trump?
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Jon Stewart and Dave Chappelle sat down with CNN's Christiane Anambour.
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The cash flow in the Trump era for, uh, for these TV stations and for these...
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Can I say, that might have been an issue and maybe it still is an issue for the people who are the bean counters.
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We, the journalists, we, I mean, smite the bean counters, because we're...
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And I like to use the word smite or smoke because I am a high and mighty journalist.
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Can I say, that might have been an issue and maybe it still is an issue for the people who are the bean counters.
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But we, the journalists, we, I think, believe that our job is to navigate the truth and to do the fact-checking and all the rest of it.
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So I think that's what motivates a lot of people.
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But I think the journalists have taken it personally.
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They're personally wounded and offended by this man.
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And what he's done well, I thought, is appeal to their own narcissism, to their own ego.
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And the journalists stand up and say, we are noble.
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And now he's changed the conversation to not that his policies are silly or not working or any of those other things.
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He's able to tune out everything else and get people just focused on the fight.
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Of course we're offended because he's saying we are the enemy.
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He is very powerful in the way he has persuaded so many people with The Daily Show.
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I don't know how he would handle the job today.
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In this environment, when Trump is president, the press has an ugly infatuation with him, a session that pretends to be hatred.
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It's one thing to say those things when you're not in the daily sausage-making business.
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Because he can be aloof and say, you know what?
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There is this stalkerish fixation on Donald Trump.
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And this fixation on just doing, so we've got to destroy him.
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And they are completely unwilling to admit that they are, inarguably, a massive reason he rose to power in the first place.
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Christiana Anandpour, I mean, does anybody not roll their eyes when she comes out?
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And he's like, oh, okay, yeah, this is going to be fair.
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It's the mostly, you know, bi-coastal media elites who act as if they are the voice of America.
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Did you go to some university to get your degree on what America really thinks?
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America, I'm here to tell you that your suspicions are correct.
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We're in with all of the, you know, over-educated.
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And in fact, I went to a better college than you do.
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if we could just detach just a little bit from it,
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this is really kind of fun and interesting to watch.
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Let's go to Pat, who's joining us now from Pat Unleashed.
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He's unleashed, you know, in the morning prior to this program.
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You can't unleash him for more than a couple of hours every day.
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Well, you know, everything you just said there is why I get so pissed off
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every time I see a Beto sign on somebody's yard.
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So right now, Florida is, I believe, one or two on the list of 50,
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Put them down in the low 40s from one or two...
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Every time I drive into my neighborhood, I see this Beto sign.
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And so last night, we're out trick-or-treating with the kids and their kids.
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And I'm like, they've probably poisoned their candy.
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So then she opens up her door, the woman of the house,
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and she's wearing a Beto for Senate T-shirt on top of it.
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No, every single one of them is a Ted Cruz fan.
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And so it's just an in-your-face to everybody in this neighborhood.
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An in-your-face to everybody in the neighborhood?
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Well, dressing up as something that you're not.
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and you decorate your house to make it the scariest damn house you can.
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And I told Jackie, I'm going to go up and ask her if the $35,000 or $40,000
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they're paying in property taxes just isn't enough.
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I thought domestic tranquility was more important.
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There is a point where Pat unleashed is leashed, and it's with Jackie.
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Yeah, those little New Year's things that you blow into.
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So first of all, that's all we heard the rest of the night from my grandkids.
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Secondly, I'm sure they don't believe in candy.
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And what about the obesity epidemic in this country?
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And you're too young, but Pat, you'll remember this.
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Do you remember going to people's houses before the big fake scare on Halloween?
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When I was really young, we did not get store-boughtened candy.
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You would go house to house, and people would make stuff.
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I remember there was some lady, like that Beto voter, there was this lady, she was an old lady, and she lived there, and she thought she was going to be the good doer of the neighborhood.
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And she would give us a toothbrush, and she would say, because you've got all those sweets, make sure you brush your teeth.
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Here's a toothbrush, and I'll have another one for you next year.
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And I remember looking at her going, I ain't coming back here next year.
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It's also interesting, you know, that you bring up the thing that never happened.
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You know, there was never a razor blade in anybody's apple.
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And he was executed for that crime, like, right away.
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It seemed, that's, at least that's what I read yesterday.
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And that's the only known documented case of candy poisoning.
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But there's never been, to my knowledge, ever been a razor blade in, where are you, why would there be a razor blade in somebody's apple at Halloween?
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You'd have to be, like, trick-or-treating at Charlie Manson's house.
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And the pixie stick thing is amazing, because he put, I don't know what pint of poison.
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He put cyanide in the pixie sticks for his own children.
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I mean, ever since then, you didn't trust anybody.
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Well, you threw away anything that didn't come from a store, first of all.
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Anything that wasn't prepackaged, you threw it away.
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I remember as a kid, as a kid, looking at those things.
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You'd get it, and your parents would go, I'm not sure.
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As if if you're injecting poison into something.
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They're going to rip it open and then inject the poison.
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Instead of just poking a needle hole through the actual wrapper.
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It was one story made by the media, pushed out into the media because it sold newspapers.
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Then it distorted and twisted into stuff that wasn't true.
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I mean, to the point where they even had emergency rooms.
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And it's like the precursor to social media urban legends, right?
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I mean, it's the same concept, but now it's so much easier.
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You know, it would probably be really hard to start that fake rumor back in 1982 or whatever,
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late 70s, when that became the thing where you had to go get your x-ray, your candy x-rayed.
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Now, you put it out there and within a week, everyone believes it.
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Well, it's because this is the blessing and the curse.
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In the old days, all you needed was a legitimate story on Walter Cronkite that nobody really saw.
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And they heard this story and then word of mouth.
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Is somebody going to take the time to go to the library and look up the Houston Chronicle to find the story?
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Well, now we can tell this story and I can guarantee you that there's people listening right now that are Googling that story to say,
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And they're going to spend a day and they'll read it and they'll know everything about that story.
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The problem is, at the same time that blessing has happened, the curse of being able to make fake news, you know, Russian, you know, disinformation campaigns and just sick people who are just making stuff up.
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But we won't take the time before it was like, what am I going to do, go to the library and ask for them to send a copy of the, no.
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Now we won't even take the time to do anything but read the headline, a little bit of that story and send it to somebody else.
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Think of any of these stories that are out there.
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Think of now how many sources have said Donald Trump is responsible for the shooting in Pittsburgh.
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And that's going to be, that will be in our history books.
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By the way, I don't want to disseminate fake news.
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Ronald O'Brien, the candy man, was executed at 84, not 74.
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I was going to say, even for Texas, that's pretty efficient.
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You don't think I'm asking that about Bill O'Reilly as well?
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Bill O'Reilly, where we can pick the brain of a giant.
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And he's on the program now, a day early, because, I don't know, he can't get up early tomorrow,
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or he wants to sleep in, he's got jammies, and he wants to play with his dog.
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I'm not sure, but he's made time for all of us now, and here he is, Bill O'Reilly.
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So I'm on the road tomorrow, and I wanted to give you and Stu my undivided attention.
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And it's not the most informed analyst in America.
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You know, I think the frenzy of the media covering the elections is worth talking about.
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Because, you know, they got a lot invested in this, the national media.
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Hollywood is making a push like I have not seen before.
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You know, it's interesting because there isn't one Hollywood star now that can open a movie.
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It used to be Clint Eastwood or John Wayne or, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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They could open movies that people would just go to see the film because they were in it.
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There isn't any buddy out there of superstar stature.
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So thus you're left with Robert De Niro cursing and, you know, guys who haven't showered in five days.
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Oprah is going to be on the tour with Mrs. Obama.
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But getting back to your original brilliant question, what do you want to talk about?
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And you must have studied, or you and Stu discussed that for about three hours.
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It's the national media has so much on the line here.
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Because if the Republicans pull it out in the House and they control both houses of Congress and Trump struts around like it's me because I did 87,000 rallies and everybody loves me, where does the media go?
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Well, I mean, they're just slammed to the ground.
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America is even more racist than we thought, even with the shooting and the bombing.
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Oh, I know that, but they won't see that coming.
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You started to attack the messenger in the sense that people have to either buy your newspaper or watch you on television.
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And, you know, it is a tribalism thing now, particularly on television news.
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Whatever tribe you're in, that's the station you watch.
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Did you guys see the study that came out that 89% of CNN viewers vote Democrat?
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That came out, and 95% of Fox News viewers, 95%.
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When I was there and you were there, it was not like that.
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And so now it's, you know, my tribe has this channel.
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And then all the networks had high, very high Democrat voting people.
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But I see, and I don't think anybody else is really following this,
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I think if Trump is reelected and the Republicans maintain control,
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that the national media in this country is going to explode in a bad way for them.
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Because they are as crazed, and that's the word, as I have ever seen in my 45 years in journalism.
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So we've never seen people, they're like foaming at the mouth deck.
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This week, Don Lemon said, we have to stop demonizing people and realize that the real terrorists in this country are white males,
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But if you or Stu or me said, the real threat are black males on the left, what if we had said that?
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So we would have been fired and hung and whipped and then tied to a stake with twigs and burned.
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Why can Don Lemon say that about a portion of the American population?
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Because they know Don and they know he's not a racist.
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And, you know, we also know what's going on in the country.
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Well, if the press were fair and looking for the truth, they would cover Don Lemon like they covered Megyn Kelly.
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So therefore, people who aren't engaged, and that's most people in the media, they don't know Don.
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Go out today in Dallas and say, hey, what do you think of Don Lemon?
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But the media could have destroyed him, could have said that's a racist statement.
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I don't believe that Don Lemon's a racist because I never call people racist unless they're members of the Klan or the Nazi Party.
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We're in a country now where the truth doesn't matter anymore.
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So, Bill, I know I'm asking you to speculate, which you never do, but you're looking at the polls.
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What do you think is coming for election night?
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That up late, you know, it's in places like Montana, in Arizona, Nevada, Missouri, in the Senate races, this is just airtight.
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So I believe that the Senate will maintain its Republican status and maybe the GOP will pick up two seats.
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And the House is impossible to say because you don't know the candidates and you don't know how much money is pouring into these small districts.
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But the Republicans have to defend so many more seats than Democrats just by the odds, just by that.
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You would say the Democrats should be very close to a majority in the House.
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But if it's only a three or four seat majority, it doesn't really matter because Trump's going to be able to peel away a few votes from moderate Democrats for what he wants to do.
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If it's 20, 25 seats on the Democratic Party, then you're going to have gridlock for two years.
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And even if it's four, you're going to have hearings and investigations and nonstop, don't you think?
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I doubt it because from my read of the Mueller investigation.
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Yeah, and he's not going to even issue a report.
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Mueller's not even going to tell the American public what he found or didn't find.
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No, it was supposed to be issued right after the election.
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He, according to my sources, which are impeccable, he's going to fall back on this was a criminal investigation.
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We're not bringing charges against anybody in the Trump administration.
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Because if you are an investigative agency and you find nothing against Stu, all right, you don't put out a report that exonerates Stu.
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So for $17 million, that's what we're going to get.
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However, the inspector general in the Justice Department has to issue his report of whether the FBI intentionally booted the Russian collusion investigation.
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Now, he has to get specific, but he'll do what he did the last time.
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He'll go, you know, it doesn't look real good, but, you know, we can't really prove it.
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You very rarely get anybody who utters a declarative sentence and points a finger.
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So what does this mean, then, if the Democrats control – you don't believe that they have a chance of taking the Senate, do you?
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I mean, if that happens, that's Armageddon for Trump.
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If they take the House and it's – do you think it's more likely that it's 25 or 3?
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What does the country look like a year from now with, you know, a House that is controlled by the Democrats?
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I just don't think it's going to be that big a deal.
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I don't think that the Democratic Party is going to launch articles of impeachment because they'll lose the presidential race in 2020.
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And I just don't see the leadership, such as it is of the Democratic Party, wanting Donald Trump reelected president.
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And if you're going to, you know, put up a Kavanaugh situation against Trump, you're assuring his reelection because he's got 45 percent of the electorate now.
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You do anything crazy, you push him easily into 55.
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You know, look, people think that there are all these secular progressives, all these progressives running around.
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But their voices are heard because the media acts in concert with them.
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You know, they just want to have a government that functions well so they have opportunity and raise their kids and work hard.
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And, you know, I mean, in New Jersey, that's a race I'm watching.
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We're talking about the elections next week and Menendez, who is running in New Jersey.
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And if the Democrats lose New Jersey, that will be stunning.
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I used to live in New Jersey, how anybody could vote for Robert Menendez.
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You know, I mean, this guy, he just, and it was a hung jury, just, just got in.
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And then the Senate Ethics Committee hammered him.
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And then you're going to cast your ballot for this man?
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And this is corruption, you know, this beyond any reasonable doubt.
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See, and that is the thing when you said, you know, people don't like corruption.
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He's still got a five-point lead over the Republican challenger in New Jersey.
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Now, that lead is shrinking, and the commercials are devastating here against Menendez.
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I mean, we've been tempted so many times to believe that New Jersey is going to, you know,
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And it's really the only example of where it really has was the Christie election when he
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I don't know if he will, but I'm, you know, hopeful.
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And the other states that it's really tough is Arizona and Nevada.
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Now, I said yesterday on the No Spin News, which, of course, is the newscast of record
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I said yesterday that I don't believe there's going to be a big African-American turnout for
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the midterms, you know, larger than usual, or Hispanic-American.
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I could be wrong on a Hispanic-American thing because the caravan got their attention.
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But the Kavanaugh thing, you know, that doesn't engage, generally speaking, people who are
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really trying to make ends meet and they're not watching cable and they're not reading
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You know, the, the, you know, democratic socialism, stop Trump driving that, probably the caravan
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What's driving the average person to go out and vote, Bill, do you think?
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Well, the actual, I was debating a Democratic pollster and he actually agreed with me that,
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that minorities probably won't come out in great numbers.
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But then he said, you know, these liberal white women in the suburbs are going to put
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And what's driving people, the overwhelming issue in this country now is Donald Trump.
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They're engaged, they're energized, and they're going to go and vote straight Republican ticket.
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And the people who don't like him are going to do the exact opposite.
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So you can talk healthcare, you can talk the economy, you can talk the issues.
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That's why he's running around everywhere to try to, you know, get his supporters to overwhelm
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Uh, Florida is not Manhattan, but he is now ahead by five points.
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I think DeSantis is a bad candidate on the Republican side.
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Gillum has got, uh, the Democratic establishment, lots of out of state money coming in big, big
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money, so he can buy commercials in the populated zones.
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Um, the machine, the Democratic machine in Florida is very well organized in Orlando, Dade
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County, Broward County, Palm Beach County, and the Tampa area.
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It doesn't seem like the Republicans are as organized.
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Now, on the Senate race, I think the Governor Scott there, who's popular, has, has a shot
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if the people in a panhandle devastated by the hurricane can get it together and vote,
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I taught high school there, and, and it's not the way it was when I was there.
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It's now a state that is very, very ideological.
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Well, when you were, when, when you were there, though, uh, I believe Cornelius Vanderbilt
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had just built the first railroad, uh, no, Ponce de Leon and I were very, very good friends.
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Didn't know they had high school back then, but anyway.
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Okay, Beck, you can, you can mock me if you want, but your audience, they have eyes, they
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I mean, I am looking more and more like Colonel Sanders every day.
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I mean, and now you got chickens following you around.
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Did you, were you, uh, happy with the way the day went yesterday?
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Uh, yes, it seems like an odd question, but yes, I was.
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Did anybody, did anybody shaving cream your house or anything?
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I paid urchins to do it, so now I'm going to have to get my money.
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Yeah, you're going to have to get your money back.
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Yeah, you're going to have to get it because that didn't, uh, that didn't happen.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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He, uh, was a guy who got his start writing for Ben Shapiro in 2013.
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Um, he is, uh, he is known as Vox Dei for the Michael Knowles show, and an article caught
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my eye that he wrote about the Chinese cardinals.
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Pope Francis has a natural sympathy for communists, and he makes some pretty, uh, strong statements
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here that I'm not hearing other people actually report.
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Most people, if you're a Catholic or you know a lot of Catholics, most people are asking
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these questions, but no one seems willing to answer them.
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A lot of people, I mean, as soon as CNN said, oh my gosh, oh, this guy is wonderful, I remember
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when the, before the smoke had cleared the chimney, CNN was all over him, and I thought,
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Um, and so we've been watching him, and he has a tendency to not like capitalism.
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He has a tendency to like statism, Marxism, et cetera, et cetera.
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Um, but what he's done in China is truly breathtaking.
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Yeah, so essentially, uh, the deal in China, now the provisions of it haven't completely
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been fully laid out, but the insiders, uh, close to the deal and, uh, people on the ground
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in China have pretty much stated the Chinese, uh, communist government is going to have a
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role in selecting bishops, and the Pope is basically just going to have veto power.
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And also, the underground church in China is, who's faithful to the Holy See, is going
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to join the official church in China that's recognized by the communist government, and
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the 30 bishops that are associated with that are going to become a minority in the bishops
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Okay, so the, so the only thing, the only reason the Catholics really survive and are
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And it's my understanding that having a foreign leader basically appoint your bishops in the
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history, the 2,000 year history of the church, it's never happened.
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I mean, we have in history, I mean, France, certainly the French crown certainly, uh, played
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a role in selecting bishops, uh, but, uh, it's, it never works out for the church when
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I mean, certainly, yeah, or the people, uh, and this certainly won't, uh, help the people
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What's just essentially going to happen is, I mean, China doesn't care about the, about
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So let's just say, okay, the, the Pope has veto power on the bishops they appoint.
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What motivation does China have to, to give him a bishop that he wants?
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They have no motivation whatsoever to work with the Holy See.
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And I want to correct something, correct something you just said, because I think it was
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a misunderstanding or misspeak, China has every reason to care about religion.
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Uh, they want to destroy religion and make it, uh, into a Chinese tool to bring you to
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I mean, they don't care if, uh, if religion is doing well or if it's healthy.
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They just, so what motivation do they have to work with the Pope to give him a bishop that
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So, um, in here, in your article, you talk about, uh, Marcelo Sanchez Sarando.
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He's an archbishop and he's the guy, he's from Argentina and he was the guy negotiating
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He, he writes, if I may quote from your article, um, he has said about China, quote, you don't
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They've already accepted private property, end quote.
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So the, you make the case that the Pope likes communists because he only knows communists
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Yeah, I think that, uh, and Cardinal Zen says the same thing in his piece that he wrote for
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I think the key paragraph in his whole, uh, article is Francis may have natural sympathy
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I'm quoting him now because for him, they are the persecuted.
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He doesn't know them as the persecutors, uh, once they become in power, like the communists
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So I think what we have here with Pope Francis is the inverse of Pope John Paul II.
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Pope John Paul II grew up after the communist revolution.
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He grew up after all the rhetoric and once they're in power and all he sees is persecution.
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So John Paul II has a very staunch, uh, position against communism.
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Whereas Pope Francis, he grows up during the revolution where communists are saying, oh,
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And of course, the right-wing military governments that they're opposing are angels either.
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And I think that's what's, uh, sort of spurning him, uh, to have a, spurring him to have this
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soft, warm spot for them and not, uh, seeing it for, for what it is.
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Because the church has, uh, throughout centuries, uh, throughout the 20th century condemned communism
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as an evil ideology and socialism as an evil ideology.
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It's why I, I think it was, I can't remember now.
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Pope Leo, who was, who was the so-called Hitler's Pope?
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It was, uh, that, well, Hitler, they say pious, uh, pious.
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Pope pious, but that, that was, he was not Hitler's Pope.
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That was disinformation from the former Soviet union.
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I think that, uh, I think that's very clear with the, uh, with this Chinese deal.
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What does this mean, uh, to the, the Christians and the Catholics in China?
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Well, if it means for them, I mean, certainly China is not stopping their persecution of
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They've destroyed several churches and they've leveled several Marian shrines.
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I mean, even after this deal was signed, uh, for them, they're just going to be persecuted.
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And I think they are going to, I think their morale is going to be lower because unlike the
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communists, uh, in Eastern Europe during the time of Pope John Paul II, they felt like they
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And I think that it's, it's, it's going to harm them ultimately in the end.
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I, I very much, uh, believe in the, the Holy See and very much believe in the, you know,
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And my criticism here of Pope Francis is simply as a statesman, uh, and as an administrator.
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Uh, and I think that's what the majority of criticism towards Pope Francis in recent
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weeks with the recent letter by Archbishop Vigano, uh, and the scandals that have been
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So I, I wanted to ask you if you're a Christian because I are a Catholic, because I know you
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are, um, but I wanted to make sure that people know that you are a, a strong Catholic.
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You're not one of these, you know, sideline Catholics like I used to be.
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Um, but I see the way this Pope is behaving here on, you know, on our continent with, uh,
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I see how he's come out against capitalism and, and he does not seem to be a friend of
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Now with this in China, are you concerned that this is, that this guy is, uh, not real Francis
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Uh, I certainly think, uh, his actions in, in recent, uh, weeks, uh, have certainly shown
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that, uh, with, uh, I mean, regarding the child sex abuse scandal, he accepted Cardinal
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Worrell of Washington DC's resignation after several weeks.
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Uh, and he sent him off with a very glowing, uh, letter and notes.
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Uh, and of course, I don't know how familiar you are with the Archbishop Vigano, uh, gave
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a very detailed, uh, accounts, uh, accusing Pope Francis of having, uh, taken sanctions off
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Cardinal McCarrick that were imposed upon him by, uh, Pope Benedict.
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And I think those allegations have very, uh, seem very credible after, uh, several weeks
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of investigation and still he has not given any public statement on it.
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It's been lots of gaslighting, uh, from the people in his circle.
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So I, I am very concerned about Pope Francis as, uh, an administrator, uh, and, uh, as a
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I'm out of time, but please stay in touch with me because, uh, I, I'm, I'm fascinated.
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The Pope plays a huge role in today's world, uh, and, uh, he is, uh, he's almost a tipping
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And, uh, I, I, I really enjoy talking to devout Catholics about it, uh, who just, just don't
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