11⧸13⧸17 - "I want your sex" (Cathy Young joins Glenn)
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1 hour and 53 minutes
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162.02205
Summary
Glenn Beck explains why the NFL won't change its policy regarding the national anthem. He also discusses the Roy Moore scandal and why it's getting out of control. Glenn Beck is a conservative commentator and host of the conservative radio show "The Blaze" on the Blaze Radio Network.
Transcript
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Well, the NFL did their best yesterday in trying to make their fan base forget the past two months.
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Giant flags were draped across the field during the National Anthem.
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Some players that had previously sat or kneeled were now standing beside the two members of the 49ers.
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And pregame tributes were kicking off all over the country.
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Officially, the NFL hasn't changed their policy during the National Anthem.
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And the commissioner has made it has made that very clear in a statement on Saturday.
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He said, and I quote, there has been no policy change in the current policy regarding the National Anthem.
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The agenda will be a continuation of how we make progress on important social issues that players have vocalized, end quote.
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So the NFL has been locked into a PR battle for over two months.
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How do they reconcile with the players who the country is thinking, you know, you're disrespecting the entire country,
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but somehow remain receptive to their employees, the players?
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The solution was to let their National Anthem and flag protests continue, but sneak in a little patriotic imagery wherever possible.
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And yesterday, Veterans Day displays were the culmination.
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But they've been working on this now for weeks.
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Has anybody noticed the camouflage gear that the players and the coaches have been wearing on the sidelines?
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That is just mysteriously increased as the NFL ratings were going down and calls for boycotts were increased.
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One Facebook page called the boycott, the NFL had over a quarter of a million fans vowing to watch something else on Veterans Day.
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You can't defecate all over the flag every other day leading up to Veterans Day and then all of a sudden pretend, oh, no, we're no, no, no.
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You can't fix this with a parade and theatrics or camouflage clothing.
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You have to require your employees to show a little respect.
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They can protest their country all they want, just not during working hours.
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Encourage them to use their fame at the local levels.
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And the premise wouldn't be crapping all over the men and women that have died to keep them safe.
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Men and women who have died to ensure that they could make millions of dollars chasing an oval-shaped pigskin ball around a field after they've knelt and taken a knee in disrespect.
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I don't think the players actually intended to insult veterans and the country when they began this protest.
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I just don't think any of them actually thought it all the way through.
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Most football fans are just sick and tired of this.
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They want to watch football again without all the politics.
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But if a change in policy doesn't follow, I don't think the NFL is going to fool anyone.
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We have a guest in the third hour that is warning.
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And she's like, look, this is good to make sure that we don't have sexual harassment, but are we Weinstein-ing everybody and everything?
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But let's bring you up to speed on what has happened over the weekend with Roy Moore.
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And please don't just read or listen to people's commentary on original sources.
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So many people have not read the Washington Post story on Roy Moore, and so they don't necessarily know what they're talking about.
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One is all legal, but makes you squeamish, that he was dating 16, 17, and 18-year-olds when he was in his 30s.
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And all of the 16, 17, and 18-year-olds, the girls, I think all three of them, were all three of them, have their mother in the story, too?
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I don't know that all three did, but that was definitely part of one or two of them.
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One of them was cheering kind of the relationship on, like, Roy Moore's a catch.
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And the other one was like, hey, you're robbing the cradle here.
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Where this becomes a problem is with Roy Moore and the 14-year-old.
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Now, Hannity did an interview with him on Friday, and Hannity's in all kinds of trouble because they say he was defending Roy Moore.
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Which is ridiculous, by the way, you know, Hannity, a lot of people expected him to have Roy Moore on and kind of just toss him softballs.
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He brought up every single uncomfortable part of that, and he was praised widely by not only people on the right who don't like more,
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but also journalists and people from across the ideological spectrum.
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He really actually pushed him really hard on it, I thought, in many places and brought up all these really uncomfortable moments in the interview
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and didn't let him just get away with quick denials.
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I mean, he kept going back to the well over and over again.
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Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false.
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I believe they're brought only to stop a very successful campaign, and that's what they're doing.
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I've never known this woman or anything with regard to the other girls.
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You understand this is 40 years ago, and after my return from the military, I dated a lot of young ladies.
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I do recognize, however, the names of two of these young ladies, Debbie Wesson and Gloria Thacker, which they have a maiden name.
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So this is an interesting part of this, in that he full-out straight denies anything with a 14-year-old.
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Denies even saying that he's even ever talked to her.
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Right, so if there's any photographic evidence, if there's anybody who saw them together, this is going to fall apart for him quickly, because he's denying even knowing the first girl.
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Yeah, he set up a very easy, you'd think, hurdle for people to clear.
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Right, like, if he did not, if he actually did these things, he's saying he never even knew her, so that's a much easier claim to prove than they hooked up or went on dates.
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The other part of this is, when he's talking about the 16, 17, and 18-year-olds, you get the sense that, yeah, it's probably happened.
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Now, again, there's nothing illegal about the 16, 17, and 18-year-olds, and that's a very important point.
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The age, you know, like, look, the age of consent is there for a reason.
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You might agree with it, you might disagree with it, but it makes it so he is okay to do these things, particularly at this time, it wasn't highly questioned.
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Now, the age of consent hasn't changed in Alabama, it's still 16.
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How old was Billy Joel when he married, remember Dan had a real problem?
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Dan Andros was one of our producers and writers, and he was, like, he could not stop.
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He could not get past the age difference between Billy Joel and now his wife.
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October 2004, he met his wife, no, it's his third wife, who was age 23.
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I mean, he doesn't, she wasn't even alive when his hits came out.
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Uh, so, I mean, it's like, it's, it's, it's a little crazy.
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So I find, you know, it distasteful when, you know, some, you know, 50 year old guy is dating a 20 year old.
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What's the difference other than we're starting to think of those people as our daughters.
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Um, but let's talk to the fashion industry that has models that are 12, 13, 14 years old.
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Guys are looking at them, you know, all glammed up.
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I mean, we have a real problem here in America on, on what's right and what's wrong.
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On one side, you're getting from the left, uh, that Roy Moore can't date an 18 year old when he's 32.
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On the other side, they're defending a culture which allows pornography.
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Uh, like I don't, you know, I think they're both creepy, right?
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But the idea here is you have laws and, and that's why I think that there's this part of the story.
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And this has happened in several of these stories where you have a headline marquee, really bad claim of, from an accuser where you say this person did this horrible, horrible, horrible thing.
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And then we're going to support that story with evidence of him doing somewhat similar things that actually aren't illegal at all.
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What they're saying is because they, you'll keep hearing this claim.
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And, and again, like I look at the Moore story and think he probably did do these things.
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So I don't want to say that I'm not, I'm not defending him here, but I'm worried about this process in that, like you look at, you have this one story of him having sex with a 14 or almost, you know, touching a 14 year old sexually.
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And then there are three stories of him dating, uh, 16, 17 and 18 year olds that didn't progress beyond kissing.
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And what the idea here is, look at this really bad claim.
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Here are three kind of similar claims that should make you believe the first claim.
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They keep saying there's 30 interviews that they had here that they did about this.
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Well, they did 30 interviews total, not about the 14 year old.
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And again, I'm not, I'm not saying that that's not creepy and weird for a 32 year old to hit on an 18 year old or a 17 year old or 16 year old.
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I think it's, but I think it's beyond creepy, but it is legal.
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And, you know, if you're looking at Alabama in the 1970s, I mean, I think in the 1960s, it was, I mean, it was, it was lucky that the age of consent wasn't for, I mean, it was a different world, man.
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Um, but you know, this is legal as opposed to molestation and, and rape of a, of a minor, a pedophilia.
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I mean, I think a 32 year old going for a 16 year old is, is, is, is approaching that line.
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Um, but as society, we don't say that that's the age of consent.
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Yeah. And again, you can make up your mind and say, you know what, to me, it's really, uh, uh, it's really disturbing.
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And because of that, I won't vote for Roy Moore, Roy Moore.
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That's a totally fair thing for you to make a distinction on yourself.
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And I, you know, you, you listen to these interview clips and he pretty much admits that something went on.
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He knew these people, he doesn't call it dates, but whatever.
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You could tell that, you know, his, his excuses for the 16, 17, 18 year old are at very best inconsistent.
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But, but I mean, you can make that determination.
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It's a whole nother line though, when you're talking about an illegal activity and they're now calling him a pedophile, right?
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Which is if he's for, if he was doing this with a 14 year old, yes, but that's different than the 16, 17 and 18 year old.
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I want to play one more clip from Roy and then, uh, and then we're going to take a break and I'm going to come back.
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And I want to ask you, what is the difference between something that has already happened that everyone was okay with?
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And I remember saying, this is really creepy, but everyone was okay with on the left.
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She said that you asked her out on, on the first of several dates, but nothing progressed beyond kissing.
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And I don't remember if it was that time or later, uh, but I do not remember that.
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But you know her, but you never dated her ever.
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I knew her as a friend if we did go on on dates and we did, but I do not remember that.
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What about Gloria Thacker decent says she was an 18 year old cheerleader when you began taking her on dates.
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If I would never, and I believe this, uh, she said that she believed she was underage and she, as I recall, she was 19 or older.
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I, I've never provided alcohol, beer, intoxicating liquors to a minor.
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That'd be against the law, against anything that we've ever done.
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Because I don't know who's guilty, who's innocent.
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Most people, 99% of people have not even read the original story.
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And I just, I feel uncomfortable because I don't want to defend people.
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Is it a story if someone dates an 18-year-old girl in their 30s?
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I mean, it might be a little bit, maybe for the gossip pages, maybe TMZ picks it up, right?
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But it's not even, if a celebrity does it, it's not even a new story.
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Probably is, though, more just a moral question than a legal one in most states.
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And when they broke up, she was, let's see, Julia Louis-Dreyfus said in an interview in New York Magazine,
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I mean, when he was in that relationship, it was a happy one for him.
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So that was the response from Hollywood with a 17-year-old.
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I would say that was different than the response here.
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And, you know, I guess the left would say, well, Jerry Seinfeld, you know, he's not running for anything.
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I can't take the sometimes it's right and sometimes it's wrong from the left or the right.
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If it's if it's wrong, then the law needs to be changed.
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But so far, the law says you can date 16, 17, 18.
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I'm not letting a 30-year-old guy date my 16, 17-year-old daughter.
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But I'm warning her there's something wrong with that dude.
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But that discussion is different than what he is allegedly had done to the 14-year-old and date, quote, dating her.
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So I spoke to a friend of Roy Moore's this weekend, and I said, what do you make of this?
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And their response was, I've never heard it, but I'm not surprised by it.
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Now, that means something different, you know, when you're 30 than when you're 70.
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But I said, and the 14-year-old, they said, I find that extraordinarily difficult to believe.
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They said, 16, 17, 18, maybe because the culture was so different in Alabama.
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I don't want to defend this because I'm really creeped out by it.
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I would be outraged if a 30-something was trying to date my 16-year-old daughter, I would be ringing the alarm bells from here to kingdom come.
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And he said, he's a legalistic guy, and he will play completely in the lines of where it is legal.
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And if you listen to the Hannity interview, you kind of hear that when he's talking about, you know, did you go out?
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And then he said, did you, well, I don't really remember it as a date, et cetera, et cetera.
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He said, first of all, I remember her being 19, but I have never bought anyone under age a drink because it is 19 years old.
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You could tell the things where he's very strong on, and then you could tell the things he's maybe not so strong.
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It wouldn't be consistent with my behavior generally.
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But when you asked about alcohol, absolutely not.
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When you ask him about 14-year-old, absolutely not.
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Although I'm still skeeved by it, but it's consistent.
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You know, this is a completely imperfect analogy here, but it's like if you're talking about whether you're a legal driver or not, and you say, I'm going to go 55 miles per hour, that's the speed limit.
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And someone goes 52 miles an hour, and you say, hey, what are you doing?
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Yeah, but that's really close to the speed limit.
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Well, the speed limit is there to limit your speed to 55 miles an hour.
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Obviously, we know in this case, a lot of people will go 56, 57, 60, 65, 70.
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That's not okay when it comes to the whole sexual part here.
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When it comes to speed limit, the speed limit is people will argue, you know, well, I was going 58, and they stopped me.
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There's that three mile, you know, an hour kind of thing.
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This is more like the speed limit in Montana or Wyoming.
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I don't know if it's still like this, but it used to have, they didn't have a speed limit.
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They had a minimum speed, and the minimum speed would be like 40 miles an hour.
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You could not drive 40 miles an hour on the road because you'd be a hazard because everybody else would be going 120.
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And you'd come up with this 40-mile-an-hour car, and you'd be like, you didn't even see it, and you're a hazard.
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If the legal limit is 16, where she can say, yes, 16, 15 and 14 are illegal.
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And that immediately puts you into the pedophile category.
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It's like if the minimum speed is 40, and you're going 39, all of a sudden, you're an axe murderer.
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You don't want to cut these close if you can help it, right?
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You just, to me, you don't even want to get close to it.
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If this story, however, was Roy Moore at 32, dated a 16, 17, and 18-year-old that did not progress past kissing.
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And now, it's 40 years later, and we have no other evidence whatsoever of any creepy behavior.
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He married someone and has been married the entire time.
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It's a weird, it's almost like, it's a weird aside from his history.
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Like, if he's running for president, it certainly does get brought up.
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Like, it's a past, it's probably not a big story.
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The other stories are being used as advancing the narrative that he's a creepy guy with teenagers,
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which seems like it may, even by his own interview, seems like it might have been true at the time.
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However, that is not a huge news story if he didn't break the law,
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and he went through four decades of showing no other signs of this behavior.
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So I think, honestly, I think this is one story,
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and like, probably the appropriate way to look back and read that Washington Post story
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is to delete all references for the other three girls.
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and is that enough to convince you that he did these things?
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if we came out with real evidence and we knew that it was true,
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If he's dating 16, 17-year-olds, I have a real problem with it.
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that is so far out of the realm of normal for me.
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And it's, again, it's, you know, 40 is the speed limit.
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And I've disagreed with almost everything George Takai has ever said or written.
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in the United Federation of Planets, uh, we had universal healthcare.
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Um, he's, he's extraordinarily liberal and, and kind of a nasty guy, I think.
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Um, however, when this story came out about him, what it was is, uh, I guess it was 30
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years ago, 20 or 30 years ago, he apparently took this young model, uh, that he met in
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a bar to his, uh, house, uh, and then the charges, he gave him some sort of drink that drugged
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him when he woke up, George was pulling down his pants and, and, uh, you know, being, you
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Uh, and the guy wakes up and he's like, what are you doing?
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He pulls his pants up and George is like, well, fine.
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And you've missed the greatest night of your life.
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Uh, and, uh, so he's the, the, the model said, Hey, this happened.
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George came out on Twitter and he was, he was big time, you know, offended.
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This is heartbreaking to me that anyone would say that because of the way I, I stand on these
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I thought, I wonder if this is the first guy to be taken down who hasn't done it.
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And then this surfaces, listen to George DeKai recently on the Howard Stern show, talking
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The irony is we have a man in the white house who talked about grabbing.
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Well, it's a repetition, you know, because all your years involved with, you never hassled
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In other words, they were taught, but you never held a job over someone if they didn't.
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It is the charge that he's now denying and saying he's so offended by that somebody.
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The guy was interested and the guy wasn't interested.
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That's you're now vehemently denying that and saying that that's hurtful to even say this
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And can you imagine anybody saying, oh, well, I mean, I, you know, I'll have a girl over
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to the house, you know, and I'll grab her, you know, if she's if she's a little shy.
00:32:49.180
First of all, how good is Howard Stern at this stuff?
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He'll make you say things that you just don't even.
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It's coming out of your mouth and you're like, what the hell am I doing telling Howard
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And in addition to that, it is a little bit of probably an unfair standard to go back
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and revisit every Howard Stern interview that a celebrity is given.
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And I think you're right in that he's kind of a it is sort of a confessional, but it's
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like you go back and they try to do this with Donald Trump, right?
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Like every they went back and they looked at every Donald Trump interview.
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And it's like he said some untoward things, but he was on the Howard Stern show.
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Howard just makes it comfortable for you to say obscene things.
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You know, but I know, you know, being on the Howard Stern show, there are things that I
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If George Takai is really saying what he said over the weekend, I am a long term defender.
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I have been I am on the forefront of the fight.
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You don't say that on Howard Stern because it's against everything that he would believe.
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He's saying, no, I'm against if you're going to stop somebody having a job.
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But I mean, you know, look, if I want to have sex and and I think that they're a little shy.
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I mean, I think this was that was a real moment.
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Howard Stern is he gets you into those real moments.
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I'm concerned about Google and YouTube because Google is becoming people's news source.
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They've just hired a thousand reporters and journalists.
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And this isn't necessarily good because they're starting to control everything.
00:38:08.980
YouTube is owned by Google, and it really needs to get its priorities straight.
00:38:18.120
The company is finally taking steps to block the late Anwar al-Awlaki's videos that preach jihad against Americans.
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They have received complaints for over a decade.
00:38:30.740
But YouTube is taking this major recruitment tool for terrorists and getting rid of it, which is a good thing.
00:38:41.380
Facebook, Twitter, and Google, which is YouTube's parent company, got called into the principal's office last week on Capitol Hill,
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where they were reprimanded for allowing Russia to exploit their services to mess with the U.S. election.
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But the problem of jihadist videos on YouTube has been around much longer.
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This jihad propaganda influenced the terrorists who attacked Fort Hood, the Boston Marathon, San Bernardino, Orlando, and many of the attacks in Europe.
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Six years after al-Awlaki was killed in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen, his videos remained the top English-language jihadist recruitment tool.
00:39:22.100
A few weeks ago, a search turned up 70,000 results on YouTube, 70,000 videos.
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Now, it's only 18,600 videos, and most of them supposedly are just news reports and commentary about him, no longer his rants about killing Americans.
00:39:45.740
YouTube is using its video fingerprinting technology to find and block al-Awlaki's videos.
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This could be a major turning point in policy because YouTube and other social media companies have usually argued that they're just neutral platforms
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and no responsibility at all for what anybody posts.
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For a technology company, YouTube was seriously slow to get to this point.
00:40:20.140
They made their first public commitment to block videos like al-Awlaki's in 2010,
00:40:25.120
and yet even his famous 12-minute call to jihad sermon was available on YouTube until 2016.
00:40:33.120
Now, here's why I say they have to get their priorities right.
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YouTube restricted several Prager University videos that informed viewers about Islamic extremism,
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Ironically, YouTube is now blocking al-Awlaki's jihadist messages,
00:40:55.120
the very kind of extremism that Prager University's video exposed.
00:41:00.120
It is just another example of how the left trips on its own shoelaces every single day.
00:41:21.940
So, comedian Sarah Silverman, who is an outspoken opponent of, I think, everything,
00:41:38.700
says that she considered stockpiling food and weapons last November because of Donald Trump.
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When it was finally official and Trump had won,
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I felt something I'd never felt before, which was this overwhelming survival-based fear.
00:42:02.020
You know, I had the sudden urge to buy a gun and stockpile water and weapons and canned goods.
00:42:07.860
And in an instant, I basically became like a liberal doomsday prepper.
00:42:13.500
And for the first time, I felt an actual kinship to the far-right militia person who, you know,
00:42:25.920
It's that feeling of fear that makes us the same.
00:42:29.760
You know, we are, all of us, both paralyzed and motivated by fear.
00:42:36.200
And that's why Trump's campaign was so effective.
00:42:38.800
He took our fears and our rage, and he gave us a place to put it all.
00:42:45.820
And when we're divided, we're easily controlled, right?
00:42:49.480
So the challenge for all of us is to resist divisiveness and try to see ourselves in each other just as best we can.
00:43:03.640
But will she go as far and say, and so I've reflected on what perhaps we have done on our side?
00:43:14.540
And, you know, placing the fear of that's just the way white people will do you.
00:43:29.800
However, it doesn't work if you're only going to single out the other side.
00:43:36.360
Yeah, because, I mean, you've said things similar to what she's saying there.
00:43:40.980
And I've said right after the election, I said, look, we have an opportunity because they, for the first time, feel as though the entire country and our civilization could slide off the cliff.
00:43:54.680
Where they thought that was insane before, they now know how fragile things are and they are afraid of the same thing you were afraid of for the opposite reason.
00:44:03.820
And my instinct hearing that, knowing Sarah Silverman and what she said over the past few years is to dismiss it because, well, I mean, are you even it's so inconsistent to where she has been and the things she'd said publicly about politics recently.
00:44:19.520
But, I mean, A, I should resist that instinct, right?
00:44:22.560
If she's changed, you know, if she's decided she did things wrong in the past, great.
00:44:29.780
People dismissed you when you said things like that.
00:44:34.520
You have to say, look, I've done things that I don't like in the middle of this.
00:44:37.600
You take responsibility for whatever you can find that you feel that you may have done wrong.
00:44:44.140
You have to do that before you do the other side.
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You have to say, look, I'm going to take on my own side.
00:44:50.660
I want to take on me before I even take on my own side.
00:44:59.460
And quite honestly, I think be generous on the give yourself an extra helping of, you know, I made mistakes.
00:45:13.380
If the left came to you and said, they're always saying, well, we need to let these people who are illegals become legals, become citizens, become, you know, you have to give them passes on their illegal activity from before.
00:45:25.200
And if they came to you, not and just said it, but actually secured the border and actually went through and there were no new illegal immigrants coming in and they were arresting the ones that tried and they were very like they actually took steps on their own before it, but at least you'd consider it.
00:45:42.740
I would, I would, I would, that would be, I would be willing to say, okay, we're not going to cause more problems by doing this because we have, and I would need something physical because I wouldn't believe that the next guy's coming in and he's not, he's going to, I mean, you build a wall.
00:46:03.040
The only reason why I want a wall is because I don't believe that the presidents will be consistent from one to the next.
00:46:08.900
And so, uh, if you actually secured our nation and you actually took it seriously, then I would, I would seriously consider that.
00:46:20.200
And if they said not until look, this, this was our fault.
00:46:23.220
We, we are the ones that were really light on border security.
00:46:29.360
Um, but you know, as, as, as everyone will admit there, you know, there are people here that, that seemingly have lasted multiple decades and haven't been committing additional crimes.
00:46:41.300
If you're, especially if you take responsibility for the problem.
00:46:45.040
It was our fault because we didn't allow you to have border security because we kept saying you were racists.
00:46:50.180
If they came to you with that sort of pitch, at least you'd consider it.
00:46:56.700
It's just, it requires both sides to own it and none of them are going to own it.
00:47:04.960
Late June, president Trump hosted a group of native American tribal leaders at the white house and urged them to quote, just do it and extract whatever they want from the land.
00:47:14.500
They control the exchange turned out to be an unusually vivid window into almost kingly power that Donald Trump sees himself as holding, which he has begun, uh, describing with increasing bluntness.
00:47:26.700
Uh, this scene was recounted by a source in the room and confirmed by another at the white house.
00:47:34.360
The chiefs explained to Trump that there were regulatory barriers presenting, preventing them from getting at their own energy.
00:47:47.320
There was a pause in the room and the tribal leaders looked at each other.
00:47:52.000
Trump continued addressing one of the tribal leaders.
00:47:55.300
Once you get it out of the ground, they're going to make you put it back in there.
00:47:58.820
I mean, once it's out of the ground, it can't get back in there.
00:48:05.040
The tribal leaders looked at, uh, back at one of the white house officials in the room.
00:48:09.520
Perhaps somebody from the white house council's office, uh, could answer.
00:48:17.520
The official if equivocated saying the administration is making progress and has a plan to roll back various
00:48:22.380
regulations, Trump interjected again, guys, I feel like you're not hearing me right now.
00:48:32.560
China's not asking questions about all this stuff.
00:48:48.460
The right fears, somebody who is going to say, just take these rights away, just do it.
00:49:05.940
Now the left is afraid of a president who would just tell the Indian chiefs or somebody else,
00:49:15.200
Where we're supposed to come together is not on the man or the party, but the principle.
00:49:31.760
You don't pass it to find out what's inside it.
00:49:36.040
You don't lie to the American people to sell stuff.
00:49:40.160
And you don't just do it through executive order or just because you say so.
00:49:52.780
And the idea that we have to arm ourselves against a, an out of control government, because
00:50:05.280
Well, wait a minute, Sarah, are you going to fight the tanks?
00:50:22.080
If it's a religiously, uh, or a religious totalitarian government.
00:50:31.640
If it's a constitutional government based on this constitution.
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Because I have nothing to fear from that government, but we are not that government and we are not
00:50:44.160
moving in the direction that strengthens that government.
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And this is where the left and the right should be able to come together.
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So who is going to, uh, who's going to unite us?
00:53:20.220
Who is out on the horizon, um, on either side that is going to change, change the, the direction.
00:53:29.680
If you look at the Democrats, first of all, Congress, this is the oldest Congress in the history of Congress.
00:53:44.220
And it's amazing because the, the way technology is changing, the way the world is changing, the ones who can change it and fix things are not the ones in their seventies.
00:53:57.580
But nobody in their twenties and thirties wants to go to Congress.
00:54:07.240
The people who can actually change things want nothing to do with either party.
00:54:12.180
And they certainly don't want to go to Washington.
00:54:16.180
And you look at what Saturday night live did, uh, this weekend.
00:54:20.480
Do we have the, uh, do we have the democratic commercial where they were mocking the Democrats and the new Democrat?
00:54:30.360
And we know that what Americans really care about is jobs, jobs like smuggling immigrants across the border and converting Confederate monuments into statues of promises.
00:54:42.180
And we're really going to listen to people if they don't say what's politically correct.
00:54:48.460
Like these comics out there who think it's okay to make jokes about concentration camps.
00:54:55.180
The Dems are back and we won't stop now because we need another path for our country.
00:55:25.400
And today on NBC, Joe Biden has been doing the today show and the Maggie, Megan Kelly show and everything.
00:55:31.820
And they are actually looking at him as he could be the guy in 2020.
00:55:40.560
There was a big political story that came out last week.
00:55:42.680
Biden sees one Democrat who can beat Trump in 2020.
00:55:57.480
I mean, well, I mean, what's Trump going to be though?
00:55:59.260
Trump's going to be a, uh, I, I, I, the world is changing.
00:56:11.800
None of them understand the world that is coming our way.
00:56:23.280
Can we get somebody who even understands the world of today?
00:56:33.280
And that's, I mean, and that is, that is his idea of being cutting edge too.
00:56:46.480
Cause you don't, you don't want something that can vary easily with different changes
00:56:53.960
You want to just go to the same place every time.
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And especially like, you know, cause the train, it lands at a big train station that
00:57:02.700
So then you're just sending everyone to the worst area of town over and over again.
00:57:06.980
Talk about the, you know, the LA dig or the, you know, the, the hyper loop.
00:57:15.900
Well, this Amtrak goes like 20 miles an hour faster than the last Amtrak.
00:57:20.460
But I mean, Biden said one of the reasons he didn't run is he was, he was worried about
00:57:24.460
the Clinton sort of attack machine that he didn't want to go through that with his family
00:57:31.080
It'll go through that because they'll go anywhere on Biden.
00:57:38.280
Although I think he would have handily beaten Hillary Clinton.
00:57:43.020
Because I mean, he is at least as much, everything you could say about Biden, because Biden and
00:57:49.320
Though I think you could argue Biden's are a hair better than Clinton's maybe in certain
00:58:18.320
M1, Mercury 1, this last weekend, they approved 17 rescues.
00:58:28.640
Um, and I can't give you the details of, uh, those.
00:58:33.200
I can tell you that two, uh, have been successfully rescued over the weekend.
00:58:39.600
Um, we are talking about, um, two more young women.
00:58:44.060
These, these two that were rescued over the weekend, we're both in their twenties.
00:58:50.800
They are literally being traded on the open market.
00:58:54.700
Um, we are hopefully going to announce something.
00:58:58.040
I think this week, perhaps at the M1 ball, um, a new partnership, um, and a very aggressive
00:59:05.700
goal for saving these Christians in the middle East.
00:59:10.160
In fact, I know we are, um, Mercury 1 now has with these two over the weekend, we have
00:59:16.660
now, uh, funded 93 successful rescues of captive ISIS slaves, which is just remarkable.
00:59:26.600
And I believe you will be remembered, um, in the book of life for what you have done.
00:59:34.140
Um, 7,000 people now have been moved out of the area, Christians that were marked for
00:59:40.380
They have been moved out of the region into other countries.
00:59:45.420
Um, no other, no other organization has done that, that I know of.
00:59:50.460
Um, uh, that's more than some countries have done.
00:59:53.980
Um, this audience alone has done that and we are really grateful.
01:00:00.500
Um, there are more opportunities now to grab these, uh, slaves, but we need your help.
01:00:06.240
Uh, we'll be talking about how we can, um, how you can help raise money to rescue these
01:00:12.340
when we, uh, unveil a plan here in the next few days.
01:00:17.020
Hopefully, um, we've had some problems because of the middle East.
01:00:20.720
We've been having some problems that have been kind of holding us back.
01:00:22.980
Um, but as soon as I get the green light, we, uh, are going to, we're going to take on
01:00:29.220
ISIS and the slave trade in remarkable, literally miraculous ways, but we need your help.
01:00:37.920
So we have, um, every year we do something that is called the M1 ball and auction and,
01:00:44.700
uh, and we sell raffle tickets so you can win a brand new GMC truck.
01:00:51.780
Uh, and, uh, the raffle tickets are a hundred dollars.
01:00:55.080
I don't know how much it is to go to the ball, maybe a hundred dollars a seat or $150 a seat.
01:01:00.640
Aaron Watson is going to be performing, uh, live.
01:01:07.820
You can get either the raffle tickets, um, and you have a pretty good shot of winning this truck.
01:01:15.680
You can buy the raffle tickets online at mercury one.org slash M one ball.
01:01:20.020
Also, you can, uh, buy the tickets, uh, there you can just donate to the general fund.
01:01:25.600
This is just to pay the expenses for the attorneys and all of the stuff that keep the lights on.
01:01:31.720
So when I go on the air the rest of the year and I can say, Hey, every dime goes this, we try to do,
01:01:38.020
and we try to sell you something or do something that is fun that you would enjoy participating in,
01:01:45.360
Um, and that way we, we kind of earn, uh, the money that it takes to, to run the office, uh, itself.
01:01:52.040
You can also go online at mercury one, uh, dot org slash M one ball and look at the auction site.
01:01:59.460
There's a couple of things on the auction site that are, uh, really nice that have just, you know, just gone on.
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Uh, but there's a couple of things on there that you might like.
01:02:20.800
Also, I'm going to be adding probably today or tomorrow, the unfinished pictures.
01:02:24.540
I, uh, painted, um, the, uh, the heroes of the defeat of communism, uh, this weekend, uh,
01:02:33.220
Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and Pope John Paul.
01:02:36.060
And I don't know if they're going to sell them together or separately, but, uh, you'll be able to see the pictures there and we'll post them on glenbeck.com.
01:02:43.400
If you want to, if you want to buy one of those done by me.
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So, you know, you know, don't hold your breath for something spectacular.
01:02:54.600
No, it's actually, I finished the Pope and the Pope is, I mean, I am, I looked at that and I was like, I kind of want to keep that.
01:03:07.580
You oddly have talent in the artistic realm, which is maybe you should have gone into that business.
01:03:11.700
I, uh, I, I, I often think that I thought that this weekend.
01:03:20.600
And I will tell you that we're also having a strange armadillo race, uh, at the ball.
01:03:27.360
Uh, and, uh, Jeffy is still ahead in the armadillo race.
01:03:33.640
People can bet on whose armadillo is going to win.
01:03:38.460
I would say it's more of supporting a particular person's armadillo.
01:03:42.640
Um, yeah, like you're picking the person you want to support and Jeffy is beating everybody in the company.
01:03:50.120
And this is obviously disturbing, especially in 2017.
01:03:54.320
You know, I mean, that is not, it's not something.
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No, you should go and donate to the Glenn Armadillo.
01:04:09.720
Glenn Armadillo is just going to, he's just going to cry.
01:04:15.180
If I win somebody who has, uh, somebody who has bet on, on me will win the trophy.
01:04:24.680
I didn't mean to break the trophy, but now that it's broken, I doubly don't want the trophy.
01:04:29.080
So somebody will win the broken Armadillo trophy.
01:04:40.280
Perhaps you could also focus on the saving the people from ISIS.
01:04:49.220
It happens this, I think it's this Saturday night, uh, here in Dallas.
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It is mercuryone.org slash M, the number one ball.
01:05:04.840
I'm, uh, glad you brought up the world of art here, Glenn, because I believe I've stumbled
01:05:11.040
I'm very, I think we need to look back at certain things we've done in our lives and
01:05:16.700
Um, I was, uh, looking at the Louis CK situation and there was a time, right, where, you know,
01:05:22.400
obviously there was a sexual assault and people were horrified by that.
01:05:25.600
And then we started talking more about what happens in the workplace.
01:05:28.220
What if, if a man uses a sexual, uh, relationship as a reason to promote or to demote someone,
01:05:36.400
And that became something we were sensitive about, you know, years and years ago.
01:05:39.100
And things have changed now, um, to the point of where Louis CK's, uh, accusations, um, do
01:05:45.160
not, there's no accusation of, uh, uh, forced illegal behavior.
01:05:50.360
Um, and there's no accusation of, of, of, of necessarily Louis CK doing anything to stop
01:05:59.440
Um, I was just thinking getting out the door or leave it.
01:06:04.540
Um, and, and it's a standard that I don't think what was thought of as sexual assault.
01:06:09.100
Harassment until I guess now, which is like, and I, and the crazy thing is I think Louis
01:06:19.000
At the time I said to myself, what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my junk
01:06:25.680
But what I learned later in life too late is that when you have power over another person,
01:06:30.260
asking them to look at your junk, isn't a question.
01:06:35.000
The power I had over these women is that they admired me and I wielded.
01:06:40.320
So now if there's admiration between two people, you're not allowed to ask them for sexual encounters.
01:06:47.560
And then even when they agree, you're the one at fault because later on they might decide
01:06:56.940
And I understand that like, or you can learn the lesson that I think most people learn it.
01:07:02.220
But, you know, you can ask somebody who admires you and then, you know, you can, you know,
01:07:09.120
do whatever it is you two agreed on and then they just kind of lose respect for you.
01:07:14.380
I think regret over sexual intimacy is so built into our culture.
01:07:27.400
I mean, and look, not even Louis C.K. is defending Louis C.K.
01:07:30.660
But if you look at that from his perspective, what his motivations were, he's doubting, right?
01:07:35.700
But into him, every one of these instances started with the woman agreeing to participate
01:07:44.500
And, you know, that is something that I think is I don't think that's been considered sexual
01:07:48.500
harassment until very recently, if not like a couple of hours ago.
01:07:52.580
So I with this eye and with this new world we live in, I happen to be listening to the
01:07:59.200
radio earlier this morning and I flipped on 80s on 8 on Sirius XM.
01:08:04.280
And it's a station, of course, it plays all 80s hits.
01:08:10.460
And I remember a very controversial song at the time by George Michael called I Want Your
01:08:17.260
Now, I remember this song being controversial because he said the word sex.
01:08:26.200
Looking back at it, listen, because I listened to the song this morning.
01:08:29.340
Listen to some of these lyrics and tell me how this would play today.
01:08:37.840
You're trying to, if you are persistent in asking someone about sex, many of these
01:08:41.840
studies say that that's either sexual coercion, assault or rape, right?
01:08:47.820
Some of these college studies have asked questions like this.
01:08:50.700
I don't want to, I don't want to stop you from, because I am, I am strangely looking
01:08:56.160
But can we stop here and just look at what George Takai said on the Howard Stern show?
01:09:12.980
He doesn't know it, but this is my view of coercion.
01:09:18.600
The irony is we have a man in the White House who talked about grabbing c**t.
01:09:23.380
There is an irony about all of this, is there not, George?
01:09:28.160
All your years involved with c**t, you never hassled anybody or grabbed their c**t.
01:09:33.080
Did you ever grab anyone by the c**t there, Will?
01:09:58.160
Oh, or maybe afraid, and you're trying to persuade.
01:10:10.440
Did you give that benefit of the doubt to Donald Trump?
01:10:14.500
Because he might, of course not, but he might have thought, well, I am, I mean, you think
01:10:18.940
he doesn't think he's the catch of all catches?
01:10:22.800
He just thinks you might be afraid or intimidated by him.
01:10:26.660
And so, you know, because he's a celebrity, and obviously all women want it from him and
01:10:52.040
When you don't let them out, you won't leave them alone, or you force yourself on them or
01:11:05.160
So, George Michael, listen, tell me this does not sound like a threat to you.
01:11:19.200
Now that we're friends, every man's got his patience, and here's where mine ends.
01:11:40.180
There's been a delay in the amount of time since I originally asked.
01:11:53.040
When you tell me you're going to regret it, then I tell you that I love you and you still
01:12:07.240
I've waited so long, baby, out in the cold, but I can't take much more, girl.
01:12:13.720
Then it just gets into this weird, it's not, his arguments are great for this.
01:12:24.320
I guess it would potentially form a habit, so we should do it.
01:12:27.580
But most of all, and I love that, this is like, it's like Dr. Seuss.
01:13:00.380
Well, because there's one point he says, look, I'm not your father.
01:13:06.940
Perhaps the sister did not have as much knowledge as we, we found out later on that maybe the
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sister was not the one to ask about this particular topic.
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You know, I'm growing gravely concerned about the message we're sending our boys and how are we raising our boys.
01:14:45.600
If you look at the lyrics, you know, from I Want Your Sex, George Michael, to the lyrics today, they are much worse today.
01:14:59.920
Look at what they're saying to girls and young women.
01:15:20.800
Well, it seems as though Europe has the secret weapon against North Korea's threats.
01:15:50.800
Now, needless to say, you know, 80s, you know, hair bands, not regular programming there in
01:15:58.700
The regime usually uses the station to broadcast coded messages ahead of their provocations.
01:16:05.440
For example, North Korea made broadcasts on the station two days before conducting a
01:16:09.380
nuclear test, one day before a ballistic missile test, and one day before they did the,
01:16:16.060
So you can imagine it was probably quite a shock to, to hear Joey Tempest vocals instead
01:16:24.520
of super serious coded message on how we're going to annihilate the United States.
01:16:30.700
This heroic act comes on the heels of President Trump's meeting with Chinese leaders to reaffirm
01:16:36.880
their stance against North Korea's attempts to attain nuclear weapons.
01:16:40.920
Trump said all nations must come together to ensure that this rogue regime cannot threaten
01:16:47.740
And in a world where we seem to be afraid of everything and we have reason to be afraid of North
01:16:58.880
Korea's instability, it's kind of nice to sit back and just laugh at them for, I mean, a
01:17:04.800
minute, you know, especially when it feels like every day we're, we're dealing with Kim Jong-un
01:17:09.740
who's, who's going to issue some decree and it will result in the final countdown, right?
01:17:19.740
Yeah, it didn't really, it didn't work, it didn't work in North Korea, it doesn't work here.
01:17:36.780
So, I find myself really, I don't like the, I don't, I don't like what's happening in our
01:17:48.720
world right now, um, and at the same time, I love what's happening in our world right
01:17:55.520
We are, we are entering a transparent world where there are no secrets and people who
01:18:06.180
However, at the same time, we are giving over all of our power, uh, for, for any kind
01:18:14.100
of anything, I mean, we're, we're engaging in the beginnings of a witch hunt and right
01:18:21.500
now it feels good because you're taking down, you know, Harvey Weinstein and, and serial
01:18:33.480
However, we're getting into places now, like Louis CK, where I am, I am not, I mean, I'm
01:18:43.140
disgusted by him, but he asked for permission and they strangely said yes.
01:18:50.580
And I, I don't know if that's worth him never being able to make a movie again.
01:18:59.700
I mean, I, Ick and I don't want to shake your hand, you know, and I wouldn't want my
01:19:06.020
daughters around you, but it's not the same as what Weinstein did.
01:19:15.920
If you're, if you're a young man today, it's now being said that if you ask someone for a
01:19:25.520
date, if you ask someone to go out, that can be construed as sexual harassment.
01:19:32.120
Now we've been talking about this for a while and, and we thought we were alone.
01:19:36.680
And then we read a very brave article in the LA times.
01:19:41.340
It's difficult to imagine a woman whose actions even come close to Weinstein's women.
01:19:45.760
However, do engage in sexual harassment, male friend of mine worked for a small magazine
01:19:49.680
as a recent college graduate in the eighties and had less than fond memories of a female
01:19:53.800
coworker, his senior in both age and position, who sometimes greeted him with jokes, insinuating
01:19:58.600
that he was sexually aroused and once growth, uh, groped him under the pretext of straightening
01:20:06.740
Um, she says, you know, we are entering a world now.
01:20:11.700
Dudes, are you aware how happy women would be if strangers and coworkers never flirted with
01:20:23.040
She writes the author of the story writes, but is it, it's not the world I would want
01:20:29.280
Nearly every man I ever dated with was either a coworker or once I switched entirely to
01:20:35.920
This is not unusual, even in the age of dating website and apps.
01:20:42.160
So we wanted to talk to her because I can't imagine that Kathy Young, I mean,
01:20:47.480
I think she's saying common sense here is where is the line?
01:21:02.680
So, so Kathy, a, how much, how much heat are you getting?
01:21:07.220
Uh, you know, I have gotten a certain amount of heat, you know, but I'm used to this.
01:21:12.020
I've been writing about these issues actually since the, uh, 1990s, believe it or not, when
01:21:17.240
we had another round of, uh, a somewhat similar conversation, you know, post-Anita Hill.
01:21:22.420
And, uh, I thought there was some overreach back then.
01:21:25.760
Uh, so I'm sort of used to being called a traitor to my gender.
01:21:29.200
Uh, at the same time, I have gotten a lot of positive feedback, uh, not only from men,
01:21:33.580
but from other women who have been saying that, you know, not only are they concerned about
01:21:38.340
the demonization of men, but they're concerned about, uh, you know, women being painted as
01:21:45.100
Uh, I had a conversation just last night with a friend of mine who works for a, uh, major
01:21:50.980
television network, whom I will, which I will not name, but she basically said, you know,
01:21:57.640
I think that, you know, I'm tired of women in the name of feminism being made out to be
01:22:03.420
And, uh, I think that that's a, uh, really, uh, really pretty common reaction.
01:22:08.400
Uh, so I think that there are more of us out there than, uh, anyone would suspect.
01:22:15.360
Uh, I think this is definitely a concern that is out there.
01:22:28.340
And you know, that is a really good question because there are some really, really tough
01:22:32.520
For instance, I mean, I think that it is great on the one hand that, you know, we have a
01:22:38.040
more supportive environment today than we did before for a people, you know, not just
01:22:42.860
women, obviously we have also seen some young men come forward with, um, accusations of,
01:22:48.700
apparently credible accusations of, uh, sexual abuse by people in power.
01:22:53.420
Uh, I think it's great that we have a more supportive climate where, you know, they can
01:22:58.360
do that without having to worry about being vilified, about being sort of turned to shreds
01:23:04.620
But, uh, on the other hand, you know, I sometimes see people say that, well, you know, there's
01:23:09.980
really no, uh, motive for anyone to make a false, uh, claim of sexual abuse, uh, because
01:23:17.060
there's really no, you know, no upside and no incentive.
01:23:20.180
Well, actually there is, you know, some people do, uh, thrive on attention.
01:23:28.280
Uh, there have been, you know, stories of people doing bizarre things like, uh, you know,
01:23:32.620
falsely claiming that they have cancer when they don't, because they have seen someone
01:23:36.540
else in their social circle who has cancer, you know, getting a lot of support and love
01:23:41.480
So in a way, you know, ironically, the more social support and, uh, you know, positive
01:23:47.060
reinforcement you have for real victims to come forward, the more, unfortunately, you do,
01:23:53.280
uh, sort of create the risk of, uh, people who may have a sort of narcissistic personality,
01:23:59.180
who may be starved for attention, who may have other issues, uh, coming forward with
01:24:06.260
And I don't really know where to find the balance to, uh, you know, I think that we have
01:24:12.480
to, even as we support victims who come forward, we, we really cannot take the position that
01:24:21.920
I mean, obviously, uh, I think there are circumstances where if you have corroborating evidence, if you
01:24:27.240
have, you know, if this person has, uh, years ago told other people that this happened, uh,
01:24:32.620
certainly that's a pretty huge cooperation, but, you know, at the same time, I think that
01:24:37.820
a certain degree of skepticism is nevertheless necessary in, in many cases.
01:24:43.300
And I would really strongly caution against embracing this sort of accusation equals guilt
01:24:48.740
That's the thing that kind of concerns me because I think likely Kathy, here we are at the beginning
01:24:54.140
of this and we've seen a lot of really big sort of, you know, people who have had multiple,
01:24:59.100
you know, 10, 12, 15, 20, some 200 allegations against them.
01:25:04.000
And so it feels, uh, like a difficult time to talk about this process because you, it
01:25:08.500
seems like you're, uh, shaming the victims or defending the indefensible, but the process
01:25:13.720
here, which seems to be, and you point out one good example of it here with Roy Price from,
01:25:19.600
It seems to be that just one person from your past makes one accusation of, of behavior
01:25:25.460
that's not even illegal or not even close to illegal in the Amazon case.
01:25:32.720
The other thing that I found out actually after I wrote that piece, I looked a little
01:25:36.780
more deeply into that case and it turns out that at the time this happened, and by the
01:25:41.100
way, what happened was that Roy Price, who was the head of, um, Amazon, uh, the Amazon
01:25:45.360
Infant Video Division, uh, and a female executive, uh, were in a cab, uh, this is at, uh, this
01:25:52.520
event called Comic-Con, which is a, you know, really huge kind of, you know, TV fandom event.
01:26:00.160
It's a very, very freewheeling environment where, you know, alcohol flows very freely.
01:26:04.120
And, you know, I mean, let's be honest, a lot of people do actually go to those events
01:26:08.280
to, you know, have sexual encounters, I mean, to do, either flirt or, you know, have, uh,
01:26:15.320
have a kind of no-strings romance on the road, uh, in both men and women.
01:26:21.760
So he's in a cab with a female executive and he's drunk and he makes a really crude comment
01:26:28.920
And she rebuffs him and he repeats something like, oh, he basically tells her that she
01:26:34.060
would love having sex with him, except he puts it much more kind of crudely than that.
01:26:40.840
You know, she doesn't suffer any kind of career repercussions, you know, before rebuffing
01:26:49.260
Uh, but not only that, it turns out that back when this happened in 2015, she actually
01:26:54.280
did go to human resources and complain about this.
01:26:56.840
And they did, and they didn't actually punish him, but they did sort of make sure that they
01:27:02.920
worked in different divisions and didn't come into contact with each other so that, you
01:27:07.140
know, she would not be uncomfortable in, you know, her, her, uh, you know, work, uh,
01:27:13.680
And it seems to me that that's a perfectly acceptable way of resolving that.
01:27:17.440
But apparently she felt that that wasn't enough.
01:27:20.460
And on this wave of these post-Weinstein revelations, she went public about this.
01:27:25.180
And this guy has basically, you know, lost his job and at least for the time being, is
01:27:32.980
So, and you know, I, I feel sympathy for this guy.
01:27:35.860
I mean, I really think that he got hugely railroaded, unless of course there's something
01:27:39.980
else we don't know about, but you know, this is at least on the basis of what we know,
01:27:48.920
I will bet you that there are multiple women who have engaged in exactly the same behavior
01:27:54.460
with coworkers who are not getting, uh, penalized the same way.
01:27:58.500
I mean, you know, I could tell you stories that I, you know, where I have personally heard,
01:28:02.760
you know, female journalists talking about, you know, seducing male, uh, you know, either
01:28:08.460
colleagues or, uh, people that they work with, uh, um, you know, in the field, it happens
01:28:18.600
Women are not these, uh, you know, shrinking flowers.
01:28:23.020
Uh, and I mean, obviously, again, if we're talking about rape, sexual assault, obviously
01:28:29.520
there is, you know, a physical difference between men and women where, you know, as I said in
01:28:33.620
my piece, I think it is extremely difficult to imagine, you know, a woman doing the stuff
01:28:38.820
that one team was doing, because, you know, a lot of it does involve, you know, physically
01:28:44.840
And, you know, I mean, not to say that women never commit sexual assault, but, you know,
01:28:49.920
I think those specific circumstances, yeah, I mean, I think that's predominantly or, you
01:28:55.920
know, almost exclusively a kind of a male offense.
01:28:59.080
And, of course, we do have a lot more men than women in positions of power in Hollywood.
01:29:03.120
So I think that's also important to remember, but, you know, at the same time, I think it
01:29:08.020
would really be a mistake, you know, in 2017, when I think something like currently, you
01:29:14.880
know, 45% of management positions are held by women, and there are a lot of men, I forget
01:29:20.220
the exact numbers, but approximately, I think possibly about a third of men either have or
01:29:27.380
I mean, you know, this is really, we're not in a world where women have no power in the
01:29:34.960
And if you haven't read her article, it's in the LA Times.
01:29:42.880
We'll tweet it from at Glenn Beck and at World of Stewie.
01:29:48.380
And one of the interesting parts she kind of brought up there was talking about how women
01:29:52.820
are cast as these perpetual victims to the point of like in Louis C.K.
01:29:56.880
and some of the others, it's they agree to it because they feel that they can't say no.
01:30:01.760
They don't leave because they feel that they can't say no.
01:30:04.100
They don't report it because they feel that they can.
01:30:06.560
And they don't ever do anything about it because they feel like they might get repercussions.
01:30:10.140
And it's kind of it is casting women as these perpetual victims that if one of them had stood
01:30:15.420
up at one point, especially with some of these bigger cases, who knows how many women would
01:30:24.460
know to change his behavior if he asks and you say yes?
01:30:29.520
I mean, how does he how does he know to change his behavior that that's not appropriate?
01:30:35.140
If somebody instead of the two girls that said that this happened to them, they laughed
01:30:40.520
OK, well, instead of laughing all the way through it, instead, when he starts to unzip after
01:30:45.680
he's asked you, you say, you go, oh, yeah, let's just say you're being sarcastic.
01:30:53.780
As soon as he starts to unzip, you're like, Louis, no, we're leaving.
01:30:59.920
I mean, there's there's just a difference between a a predator and a pig.
01:31:22.600
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We have this week the former chairman of General Motors.
01:33:21.780
And General Motors, you have to remember, was a horse and buggy company.
01:33:30.160
And they made these, you know, carriages that were drawn by horse and the suspension.
01:33:38.660
And after the third attempt that Henry Ford made for the assembly line in the third one worked, the guys at Fisher Carriage said,
01:33:47.860
our days are numbered, we're going into automobiles.
01:34:03.000
Self-driving cars are not even going to be self-driving cars.
01:34:06.520
And in 30 years, I'm sorry, by 2030, it will be illegal for people to drive their own car.
01:34:12.680
And he describes a world that is both exciting and a little frightening in some ways.
01:34:23.000
And the loss of jobs alone, the turnover, I should say, in jobs alone, it's going to be incredible.
01:34:32.180
He says GM won't be the one unless they get on the stick.
01:34:36.320
It's really going to be coming from, you know, Apple and Google and people like that, that will start to be building these pods.
01:34:46.600
And the scariest thing about it is how believable it is.
01:34:49.240
I mean, it really, it doesn't seem like it's super far off when you hear him describe it.
01:34:54.900
Obviously, this is someone who really knows the industry.
01:35:00.860
I mean, he's, you know, he's, he's with General Motors.
01:35:06.480
He describes how driving will stick around in only like an elitist sort of sport, like equestrian is today.
01:35:14.160
Like you could do it, like people still could do it on private land, kind of on their own.
01:35:18.880
It's going to be kind of like a fun thing you might do on a vacation, but it's not going to be reality anymore.
01:35:47.020
We're just, Pat Gray is joining us from Pat Gray Unleashed.
01:36:08.560
I'm doing my thing and you're kind of doing yours.
01:36:13.100
So anyway, so we were just talking about this George Takai thing, and I really don't like
01:36:20.980
George Takai for all of his, you know, in the Federation of Planets, we have universal
01:36:37.280
I mean, you know, I don't know if you notice this, George, but yeah, sure.
01:36:40.860
Phasers aren't guns, but you use them in every episode.
01:36:47.420
But when he was accused by this one guy of something 30 years ago and, you know, I immediately
01:36:54.720
thought how I mean, unless there's a dogpile of a bunch of stories.
01:37:02.160
And he came out and he said, I am so hurt by this.
01:37:06.180
Anybody who knows me knows I'm a champion of of of of people and against sexual harassment
01:37:21.420
And I thought, OK, now, is this a guy who's being wrongly accused?
01:37:30.220
And when you hear let's play this, because I'd like to get Pat's commentary on this.
01:37:38.000
The irony is we have a man in the White House who talked about grabbing there is an irony
01:37:45.480
Well, it's a repetition, you know, because all your years involved with you never hassled
01:38:09.700
It's some people that are kind of, um, um, skittish.
01:38:31.020
But you never held a job over someone if they didn't.
01:38:57.480
He's just trying to go where no man has gone before.
01:39:03.140
So that's exactly what this guy accused him of.
01:39:21.900
Next thing I knew, I woke up and my pants were around my ankles.
01:39:34.020
If this was that sounds a man with a woman saying, well, she was skittish and I was trying
01:39:43.920
I mean, are there different standards for homosexuals or I don't think so?
01:39:48.820
No, I don't think if my son at any age would come home and say, dad, she just needed a
01:40:08.960
I mean, but Takai doesn't seem to notice the difference here.
01:40:26.000
So in his mind, if it's just about sex, it's fine.
01:40:36.420
Of course, it's about sex and it's about power.
01:40:51.560
And I'm starting to get a little concerned, as I know you are, that there's going to be some dolphins caught up in this tuna net.
01:41:00.180
There's going to be some people who have not done anything wrong.
01:41:12.920
Yeah, there's a press conference coming up later today with a new accuser who accuses Roy Moore of having sexual relations of some sort with her when she was a minor.
01:41:23.880
Now, of course, this one comes with the added baggage of being represented by Gloria Allred, which, in my mind, I sort of immediately dismiss anything that she does.
01:41:37.980
Yeah, it's like having Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.
01:41:43.320
I mean, this is actually going to help Roy Moore with this accuser.
01:41:46.160
If this accuser were real, let's just say, and they went to Gloria Allred, it actually, like, takes your credibility down by half because she's just so bad and has been for so long.
01:41:57.040
But, I mean, it's a – if one of these things comes out to be really – you know, there's real evidence of him having interactions like this with a minor, I mean, everybody in the audience would be like, all right, I don't want this guy representing me in the Senate.
01:42:09.200
Obviously, you don't want someone representing you in the Senate who's molested children.
01:42:13.000
You know, but, again, when it comes to political power specifically, these things feel like they could easily just be attacks.
01:42:25.800
But look at the precedent you're setting for future, you know, instances of this.
01:42:30.620
Look at what you're teaching people who are bad people, who are political activists, that if they come out four weeks before an election and make an accusation, everyone's going to believe them immediately,
01:42:41.240
and you're going to be a horrible person if you ask any – even the most minor question about it.
01:42:53.460
He doesn't just ask him nursery school questions.
01:42:56.020
He did not give the treatment to Roy Moore that he would have given to Donald Trump.
01:42:59.800
But he's just – he's going with the other – he's trying to get the other side of it.
01:43:07.020
You can't even get – now advertisers are jumping ship because he got the other side of it?
01:43:13.560
Media Matters sent out a smear that said, now look, Sean Hannity is defending a pedophile.
01:43:30.360
Are we at a point in America to where somebody can allege something and you can't even report the other side?
01:43:45.100
And he tweeted out, I would say unless he can prove his innocence, the burden is now on him within the next day or so.
01:43:53.280
Wait, the burden of proof is now on the accused?
01:43:59.880
How did we get to this place where the burden of proof is not on the state or the accuser?
01:44:11.900
And the defense to that seems to be, well, this one feels like he really did it.
01:44:34.440
I believe the 18, 17, and 16-year-old dating thing.
01:44:58.560
And those were all pretty much he was a gentleman.
01:45:02.420
He talked to mom and dad or talked to the moms.
01:45:23.680
If it was just the 14-year-old, it would have to rise to its own merit.
01:45:30.000
But because you have these other three that lend credibility, it makes you go, yep, there's
01:45:38.600
Even if it doesn't fit, it just shows this pattern and it gives it credibility.
01:45:45.280
So if they've got three out of the four correct, it's important which one they have incorrect.
01:45:55.480
And to me, the whole story is the 14-year-old really is the only one that is relevant, I
01:46:05.480
It is relevant to know that a guy, when he was in his 30s, thought it was appropriate in
01:46:12.340
Alabama in the 70s to date a 16-year-old and not have a problem with it.
01:46:20.640
And still doesn't really have a problem with it as long as he talked to mom.
01:46:23.860
I don't know that it's all that relevant, honestly.
01:46:27.700
You know, like, he's shown 40, he's had 40 years where there's been no other reporting
01:46:34.200
How is he going to be on pornography and sex slaves and things that are being seen?
01:46:51.200
Look, there's 40 years of his record on the issues.
01:46:59.700
I mean, that's what makes this so creepy because everybody knows he's such a biblically-based
01:47:07.640
He defended the Ten Commandments monuments in one.
01:47:10.760
And so now you're accusing him of these improprieties.
01:47:14.420
And so it not only taints him, but what they're trying to do is taint all Christians.
01:47:25.780
Unless it's proven that he did something illegal and improper with a 14-year-old, I think so.
01:47:32.480
I mean, I like Mo Brooks, so I would have voted for him anyway.
01:47:34.080
Well, yeah, I would have voted for Brooks in the first place.
01:47:36.740
But now that that's not an option, I'd vote for him.
01:47:42.840
I think he has a fair point in that I've been a publicly divisive figure for 40 years
01:47:48.900
in the state and run multiple statewide campaigns.
01:47:55.420
I think there's another fair point in a nuanced, bizarre way.
01:47:58.700
What you described as being a quote-unquote gentleman, which I know is not exactly what
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He asked parents' permission to take out the 17-year-olds, right?
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When they decided they didn't want anything, he took them home.
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And in a way, it would be odd behavior to, when they are legal, 16, 17, 18, to go only
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And then when you cross the line to 14-year-olds, that's the time you get more sexually active.
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Because he's so legalistic, it doesn't ring true.
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That 14-year-olds, the 16 absolutely rings true.
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But however, there is evidence that she, before he was running for the Senate seat, she had
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told multiple other people that this had happened when she wasn't promoting it.
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Breitbart went down there, they sent reporters down to kind of go after her story a little
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And one of the things they found was, and they tried to present this as a point in their
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favor, which was the Washington Post basically hounded this woman to tell the story.
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They kept hounding her and hounding her and hounding her.
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At some level, I think that actually adds to her credibility.
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Like, you're trying to make a post look bad, which is true.
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But if she's resisting telling the story, it takes away her motivation for lying.
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And I will tell you this, the reason why, you know, you're not hearing these stories about
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a 16, 17-year-old dating in the 70s is because I will bet you that there's a lot of people
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in the state that wouldn't have a problem with that.
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Back then, it was a different world in the South.
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Before you know it, Christmas is going to be upon us.
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I mean, it is just crazy how fast things are going.
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Yeah, I've been trying to, I've been the last few months been spending time trying to like
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So I've been like, I've been slowly increasing the amount I eat every day to try to get ready
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That's why I'm going to continue to punish my body all week.
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Well, I think people want to learn how to do things the right way.
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Tonight on television, we are going to take a look for the whole week.
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This is something that you really need to watch with your kids because it sounds noble to be