The Glenn Beck Program - 11⧸14⧸17 - 'Driving' to extinction ( Bob Lutz & John Ziegler join Glenn)

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00:00:16.180 All right, it's not looking good for Roy Moore again today.

00:00:19.620 Senate Republicans really don't want to get him elected, and neither do at least five women now.

00:00:26.600 Yesterday, Beverly Young Nelson announced at a news conference that Moore attacked her in his car when she was 16 and he was 30.

00:00:37.580 Nelson said Moore offered to drive her home one night after she was waitressing on her shift and it was over.

00:00:44.040 Her boyfriend didn't show up, so he said, I'll take you home.

00:00:48.400 She said they got into the car and he drove her to the back of the restaurant where he locked the doors and then he groped her.

00:00:54.840 He tried to take her skirt off, grabbed her neck, and tried to force her head toward his crotch.

00:01:01.580 She said, I thought he was going to rape me.

00:01:04.380 After she struggled against his advances, she said that he dumped her out of the car in the parking lot and sped away.

00:01:12.660 She also said that Moore told her that he was the district attorney and she was just a child and no one will ever believe you if she tried to report the incident.

00:01:21.820 Moore says this is all a witch hunt.

00:01:25.920 But even if one of the allegations against him is even partially true, everybody in Washington is saying he should drop out of the race and check into therapy.

00:01:36.060 Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell believes the woman and now wants Moore to drop out.

00:01:42.340 Now Republicans are brainstorming ways to kick Moore out, even if he wins, in Alabama's special Senate election on December 12th.

00:01:49.820 One option would be for Republicans to allow him to be seated in the U.S., the Senate, and then expel him.

00:01:58.460 Some are even considering a write-in candidate.

00:02:01.300 That seems unrealistic this close to the election.

00:02:04.660 But then again, no Democrat has ever won a Senate seat from Alabama in 25 years, so it may not be so far-fetched.

00:02:12.700 This Alabama Senate election is a microcosm of America's current social and political quagmire.

00:02:20.260 The flood of sexual assault and harassment accusations against powerful men and the willingness of voters on the right and the left to overlook serious character problems in candidates in order to win.

00:02:34.300 Some things are more important than winning.

00:02:37.520 Will America rediscover them?

00:02:40.660 It's Tuesday, November 14th.

00:02:53.000 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:55.280 Stu, could you remind me?

00:02:57.140 I know I really strongly dislike Gloria Allred.

00:03:00.700 I was watching this yesterday where she brought out the victim and she's just glued herself to her shoulder so there was no way the camera could ever shoot without Gloria Allred in it.

00:03:17.040 Yeah, it's really strange.

00:03:17.840 She's sitting next to the reported victim and her face is approximately nine inches away from her face.

00:03:26.680 She's staring straight into her cheek.

00:03:28.660 Yeah, she's at her shoulder.

00:03:29.980 Yeah, that's very strange.

00:03:31.220 And leaning into her.

00:03:32.400 It's really, could you just remind me?

00:03:34.820 It's just that every time she's like, to me, she's Al Sharpton.

00:03:38.340 If you see a press conference with Al Sharpton, you immediately dismiss it.

00:03:43.640 Right.

00:03:44.080 She's taking lots of high profile, sort of salacious media cases.

00:03:48.760 She's constantly coming up with accusers against Republicans.

00:03:52.980 She does the press conference the same way, seemingly every time.

00:03:56.280 She did it with a bunch of the Trump accusers during the campaign where she sits, you know, very close to them.

00:04:03.540 And they all read while sitting at the table, read the statement.

00:04:08.080 They read it.

00:04:08.660 And, you know, without exception, cry.

00:04:11.780 Yeah, and she's always there with a box of Kleenex.

00:04:15.320 I mean, it's such a stage show.

00:04:17.680 It's awful.

00:04:18.500 It really hurts the credibility of any accuser that goes to her because she's just such, I mean, she's Al Sharpton.

00:04:25.840 It's like, it's hard to, it's hard to take anything that happens.

00:04:30.280 I mean, you watched this thing yesterday and obviously the woman's very upset and everything else.

00:04:34.120 Gloria Allred sucks some of the credibility out of anything she's associated with.

00:04:37.780 I think if this woman would have come out without Gloria Allred at her side, it would have, it would have, it would have made a much bigger impact.

00:04:48.200 Just by having Gloria Allred at her side has made so many people, makes me immediately go, okay, well, I don't know.

00:04:56.240 I'm not sure because she's just such a hack.

00:04:59.460 Um, and so you don't, you don't take her seriously.

00:05:03.400 The days of the Al Sharptons and the Gloria Allreds, I think are long gone and let's celebrate for a moment.

00:05:12.560 Um, however, a new group of scumbags will, you know, they'll appear at some point, but, uh, until then we just have to have Gloria Allred and Al Sharpton.

00:05:21.800 But, um, so dismiss her for a second and listen.

00:05:27.000 And it's amazing because I listened to this today.

00:05:30.120 I listened to the audio, uh, and I watched the audio yesterday and she seemed to have more credibility than when I listened to her.

00:05:39.740 Um, it doesn't, it's just not, it just doesn't sound right when I'm listening to her, but I watch her and it seems right.

00:05:48.660 And she has some, uh, some corroborating evidence, I would say.

00:05:53.120 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:53.600 Well, we'll get to that in a second.

00:05:54.600 First, let's listen to her.

00:05:56.560 Uh, here's cut one Beverly Moore in car.

00:06:00.240 Mr. Moore reached over and began groping me and putting his hands on my breasts.

00:06:06.960 I tried to open my car door to leave, but he reached over and he locked it so I could not get out.

00:06:16.440 I tried fighting him off while yelling at him to stop.

00:06:23.060 But instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head onto his crotch.

00:06:31.060 He was also trying to pull my shirt off.

00:06:34.540 I thought that he was going to rape me.

00:06:37.600 I was twisting and I was struggling and I was begging him to stop.

00:06:43.840 It's such a weird format.

00:06:45.480 It's like, here's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, horrible story from this woman's life.

00:06:51.460 Why is she reading it?

00:06:53.080 Like, this is something she lived, right?

00:06:55.360 And it's because Allred wants to control the entire thing.

00:06:58.720 Yes.

00:06:59.460 It's just a strange way to present these stories.

00:07:02.040 I mean, it has nothing to do with whether it's true or not.

00:07:03.980 It's just a bad way of doing it.

00:07:05.080 It just hurts her.

00:07:07.200 It just hurts the story.

00:07:09.000 Okay, here she is being threatened to stay quiet.

00:07:12.760 Listen.

00:07:13.940 At some point he gave up.

00:07:18.820 And he then looked at me and he told me.

00:07:24.020 He said, you're just a child.

00:07:26.940 And he said, I am the district attorney of Etowah County.

00:07:31.860 And if you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you.

00:07:37.180 If you watch that, that seems credible.

00:07:41.400 That seemed real.

00:07:42.800 The first one, I don't know.

00:07:45.620 She seemed like she was trying to force her feelings a little bit.

00:07:49.540 And I think it's just from, again, all red coaching.

00:07:52.700 However, this one felt personal and real.

00:07:57.120 So that's her side.

00:08:00.440 Now, here's what Roy Moore said immediately after.

00:08:06.060 Watch.

00:08:06.820 Listen.

00:08:07.340 I want to make it perfectly clear.

00:08:08.880 The people of Alabama know me.

00:08:10.340 They know my character.

00:08:11.660 They know what I've stood for in the political world for over 40 years.

00:08:14.900 And I can tell you without hesitation, this is absolutely false.

00:08:19.080 I never did what she said I did.

00:08:21.940 I don't even know the woman.

00:08:23.740 I don't know anything about her.

00:08:25.180 I don't even know where the restaurant is or was.

00:08:28.940 And if you look at this situation, you'll see that because I'm 11 points ahead or 10 or 11 points ahead, this race being just 28 days off, that this is a political maneuver.

00:08:40.840 And it has nothing to do with reality.

00:08:43.700 It's all about politics.

00:08:45.320 Okay, first of all, that just whether you whether he's telling the truth or not, unfortunately, that feels like this.

00:08:57.080 I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

00:09:01.400 It sounds the same, at least to me, it felt the same.

00:09:09.940 Now, here's the problem with this.

00:09:12.300 He says, I don't know her.

00:09:14.100 I've never met her.

00:09:15.720 And I don't even know where the restaurant is or was.

00:09:20.840 The evidence that she presented yesterday is his signature in her yearbook.

00:09:27.900 I don't understand how have you ever signed a yearbook outside of high schools to I don't think so.

00:09:35.000 I haven't.

00:09:35.900 So I don't know how the yearbooks were all signed by this guy.

00:09:39.980 But so he signed a yet another yearbook where he signed it.

00:09:45.240 And in this, he said to the most beautiful girl.

00:09:50.840 Do you have it to a sweeter, more beautiful girl?

00:09:53.580 Well, I could not say Merry Christmas, Christmas, 1977.

00:09:57.220 Love, Roy Moore, Roy Moore, D.A.

00:09:59.220 And then gives the date, which is December 22nd, 1977.

00:10:03.100 Here's the real problem.

00:10:04.420 And then it says Old Hickory House, which is the name of the restaurant she worked at.

00:10:10.020 Right now, again, obviously, I don't I don't know what the excuse.

00:10:14.740 I don't think he's denied it was him who wrote this.

00:10:17.640 And, you know, maybe he knew her, you know, for 10 minutes and he was being nice.

00:10:23.880 And there's, you know, she could have a yearbook does not prove he tried to rape her.

00:10:28.400 So here's what could have here's what could have happened.

00:10:31.360 He could have been at the Old Hickory House, which he doesn't recall now at all, because he was only there once.

00:10:38.060 And it's a small county.

00:10:40.220 And that was open very, you know, it was open for a week.

00:10:44.660 It wasn't open for a week.

00:10:46.060 Yeah.

00:10:46.320 And so he doesn't recall it at all.

00:10:48.700 But he was there.

00:10:49.920 She was the waitress.

00:10:50.840 She happened to have her yearbook there.

00:10:53.280 She sees him.

00:10:54.140 Oh, that's the district attorney.

00:10:55.300 Would you sign my yearbook?

00:10:56.960 He signs the yearbook and then writes underneath Old Hickory, because that's where he was sitting.

00:11:01.200 It's not impossible.

00:11:03.200 Of course, the fact that he denied knowing about the restaurant is not helpful.

00:11:07.500 No, if that were the actual case, which makes me think it isn't the actual case.

00:11:14.100 Now, here's a list of all of the people that have that were on board and now are jumping off board.

00:11:22.520 OK, so here are the these are the people who have denounced his campaign.

00:11:25.780 John McCain was the first one the day the story came out.

00:11:28.340 Mike Lee and Steve Daines, the next two.

00:11:32.240 And Jeff Flake.

00:11:33.100 That was on Friday.

00:11:33.880 Then on Sunday, you had Bill Cassidy.

00:11:37.300 You had Pat Toomey and you had Bob Corker.

00:11:40.440 Then I guess, let's see, yesterday or yeah, yesterday it was a bunch.

00:11:46.120 You had Mitch McConnell, which was kind of the one that was promoted the most.

00:11:50.120 Ted Cruz.

00:11:51.440 You had John Cornyn.

00:11:53.680 Cory Gardner, who this is after he had banned birth control.

00:11:57.340 You should know that.

00:11:58.580 I don't know why he would.

00:12:00.040 He does not have the right to comment on these things after the guy bans birth control.

00:12:04.260 He didn't.

00:12:04.840 He bans birth control and then he does this.

00:12:06.840 That was a campaign commercial.

00:12:08.640 It was a total lie.

00:12:09.400 Cory Gardner banned birth control.

00:12:10.820 No, he didn't.

00:12:12.160 Shelby, which is a big one, obviously being from Alabama.

00:12:14.800 Then you had Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins, Orrin Hatch and Todd Young.

00:12:19.440 I mean, so you think he's lost everyone.

00:12:22.140 You're at 16.

00:12:23.360 Not everyone.

00:12:24.060 16 of 52 Senate Republicans have now denounced or withdrawn their their endorsement.

00:12:31.160 Not good.

00:12:32.660 Not good.

00:12:33.340 Suboptimal if you want to.

00:12:36.020 Yeah.

00:12:36.600 If you want a Republican to really that seat.

00:12:39.320 Really not a good thing.

00:12:40.500 Again, they can't really do anything, though.

00:12:42.300 As you point out, there are some crazy things they can try to do.

00:12:45.180 But the bottom line is that people in Alabama are going to make this decision.

00:12:48.360 Moore cites the poll where he's up 10.

00:12:50.880 Two other polls have shown different stories.

00:12:53.100 One showing a tie.

00:12:54.400 Another showing his opponent up four.

00:12:56.720 So it could go really either way that people from Alabama are going to look at this.

00:13:00.980 It's a long way away from the election.

00:13:02.900 I was going to say, 28 days is an eternity.

00:13:07.040 Yeah.

00:13:07.600 An eternity in these things.

00:13:09.680 And I honestly like I could see anything happening here.

00:13:12.840 I could see the people of Alabama saying we know.

00:13:15.660 Remember, because it's always like all elections are local.

00:13:19.520 And everybody can look at a Chuck Schumer and go, the guy's a dirtbag.

00:13:24.220 But the people in New York, they're like, I know him.

00:13:26.920 I know he.

00:13:27.860 I trust him.

00:13:28.680 He's my buddy.

00:13:30.220 And so, you know, you have no idea how the people of Alabama are going to react to this.

00:13:35.920 Um, but, uh, it's not going, it's not going well for Roy Moore.

00:13:43.180 And I am, I am for one, I don't want to hear anything from the left.

00:13:51.180 Chelsea Handler, um, yesterday tweeted, can you imagine, can you imagine being this woman

00:13:57.640 and have to listen and, and, and not being believed in all that?

00:14:01.260 Yeah.

00:14:02.200 Yeah.

00:14:02.980 You know who retweeted that with an answer to it?

00:14:06.400 The, the answer just said, yes, I can imagine Juanita Broderick.

00:14:11.740 When the, when the left decides to believe Juanita Broderick, who I believe was so credible

00:14:20.400 when they will actually take on Bill Clinton and say, you know what, maybe we should look

00:14:26.140 at those women.

00:14:27.380 Maybe we've done a disservice when they begin to look at him.

00:14:33.100 I will believe their act.

00:14:35.420 They actually mean it.

00:14:37.300 And it isn't just about politics.

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00:16:52.340 Glenn Beck.

00:16:56.660 Welcome to the program.

00:17:04.720 We're so glad that you're here.

00:17:06.280 There is a, there's some amazing stuff going on.

00:17:09.940 We're doing a, uh, we're doing a special this week on, uh, the blaze.com.

00:17:14.700 Um, my TV show at five o'clock is doing a four part series on Antifa and what, what Antifa

00:17:23.400 really is.

00:17:24.400 What are they really for?

00:17:26.000 What's their history?

00:17:27.840 Uh, we, we've dug into it and had our researchers, uh, put together a chalkboard series on Antifa

00:17:33.340 and it is really quite stunning.

00:17:35.100 Uh, and we've, we've tried to make it so, uh, your kids or, you know, uh, college students

00:17:43.540 are going to be able to, uh, listen to that and say, okay, well, he's not just rejecting

00:17:50.140 it out of hand.

00:17:51.020 Um, and I'm trying to approach this so you can share it with somebody, uh, who is kind

00:17:59.100 of falling for it and, uh, and trying to present the message to them so it will help you out.

00:18:06.720 Uh, so you'll be able to learn something and you'll be able to share it with a friend or,

00:18:10.520 uh, a loved one that might be going in the wrong direction.

00:18:13.580 The history of Antifa, uh, coming up, we, we have to, we have time now we have to share

00:18:20.180 this jacket.

00:18:20.720 I think we have time now.

00:18:22.100 Um, this thing is unbelievable.

00:18:25.220 This, uh, this is a, uh, new designer jacket, uh, and it is for the Antifa and anarchist, um,

00:18:37.720 movement.

00:18:38.200 It is a, uh, you know, it's a, uh, army jacket, if you will.

00:18:44.740 Uh, and the designer took a Sharpie and wrote all kinds of things on them.

00:18:53.080 Uh, for instance, on one pocket, it says, uh, no borders and protect what you love.

00:18:59.560 Uh, the other side, it says, uh, they've tried to burn us.

00:19:03.140 They didn't know we were seeds.

00:19:04.920 It says revolution off to the side.

00:19:08.920 Um, uh, I like this one cause it's, it's so in touch with the kids today.

00:19:13.460 Drop acid, not bombs.

00:19:16.140 Oh my gosh.

00:19:17.300 On the other sleeve.

00:19:18.740 If you look on the other sleeve, it says, uh, um, a bombing for peace is like for virginity.

00:19:27.480 But my favorite is underneath that sleeve, that same sleeve.

00:19:31.180 Could you read that for me, Stu?

00:19:34.560 This is, this, if this doesn't say everything.

00:19:37.760 Uh, it says.

00:19:40.860 I am valuable.

00:19:43.820 I am powerful.

00:19:48.060 I am deserving.

00:19:51.060 Unbelievable.

00:19:52.320 Okay.

00:19:52.840 So now here's this too.

00:19:53.980 Did you notice this on the back of the collar?

00:19:55.340 Yeah.

00:19:55.520 It just says new world order.

00:19:57.240 Oh my gosh.

00:19:57.900 So here's, so here's the thing about this jacket.

00:20:01.440 This jacket is sold at Barney's for $400 in New York.

00:20:07.740 So they're, they're selling an Antifa anarchist, uh, jacket for $400.

00:20:18.780 What?

00:20:19.500 So you can, you can throw a Molotov cocktail through the Barney's window on your way out.

00:20:24.900 What?

00:20:27.900 Glenn Beck.

00:20:45.460 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:48.280 Welcome.

00:20:49.200 Welcome back.

00:20:50.000 Uh, the other day, USA Today, uh, taught us all a little bit about guns.

00:20:54.240 Oh yeah.

00:20:54.560 And the need, uh, you know, the need for really understanding the ins and outs.

00:20:58.100 Cause I mean, a lot of people will say guns are good or guns are bad and not really understand

00:21:01.820 the nuances of firearm use in this country.

00:21:05.020 And USA Today does.

00:21:06.520 And they do.

00:21:06.920 They not only understand, they not only stand to the, uh, nuances of gun safety.

00:21:11.400 They also understand what the rails on an AR are for.

00:21:15.520 They understand all of the attachments.

00:21:17.420 They understand that.

00:21:18.380 And they were talking about the shooting, uh, uh, the last week, uh, and discussing the,

00:21:24.680 uh, intricacies of the weapon he used.

00:21:27.000 And they showed the different attachments and they said, you know, this is, these are the

00:21:29.920 only attachments you can have though.

00:21:30.960 Yeah.

00:21:31.240 There are some other attachments.

00:21:32.820 Yes.

00:21:33.300 Um, and you should know about them such as, for example, the shotgun attachment, which you

00:21:38.960 would take an AR 15 and then attach for some reason, a shotgun to the bottom of it.

00:21:44.380 Correct.

00:21:44.440 And everybody has one, which everyone basically has, everyone has one.

00:21:48.560 Um, and then of course the very famous, uh, chainsaw bayonet.

00:21:53.460 Yes.

00:21:54.060 Now you, you may have never seen, cause if you're not from Texas or one of these Southern states

00:21:59.080 with all the rednecks in it, you may have never seen someone with a, with a chainsaw bayonet,

00:22:03.760 but it's very common.

00:22:05.200 I told my, I told my son, I gave it to him for Christmas.

00:22:08.880 Uh, I think he was about six and I said, try to be careful with this.

00:22:12.080 And, uh, so, you know, he's been having the, the AR with the, uh, chainsaw attachment for

00:22:19.340 years.

00:22:19.680 Now, I don't know if you saw this too, but I went out, we, I, I spent the day, I couldn't

00:22:25.480 find a single Cabela's that was selling the chainsaw attachment.

00:22:29.320 That's so strange because I think it's something like 97% of all guns have chainsaws attached

00:22:34.200 to them.

00:22:34.560 And I, I don't know, maybe they were all sold out cause so many have been, could have

00:22:38.060 been, could have been, uh, so we had to make ours and I went to the range and I, I seems

00:22:46.420 like a good idea.

00:22:47.300 Let me just say that out front.

00:22:49.040 It seems like a good idea that the NRA would be all for.

00:22:51.820 Oh my gosh.

00:22:52.520 I have, they endorsed this yet?

00:22:53.920 No, they haven't.

00:22:54.980 No, they haven't.

00:22:55.900 Uh, in case you missed it, here's a little clip of it.

00:22:58.360 It's, uh, we heard from USA Today the other day about all of the dangerous things that

00:23:05.540 you can, you could just buy right off the shelf to adapt your AR rifle.

00:23:11.360 Of course, the one that everybody who's in the NRA knows is of course the AR, uh, uh,

00:23:17.860 chainsaw attachment here in Texas.

00:23:20.880 They apparently were all sold out.

00:23:22.540 We couldn't find it at a single Cabela's.

00:23:24.340 So we had to make one ourself and, you know, I don't know what we've been doing this whole

00:23:29.440 time, missing out on all of the fun.

00:23:31.960 Look at that thing.

00:23:32.600 Because, you know, there's really no reason for the chainsaw.

00:23:36.520 You know, after all you really have to do is.

00:23:41.120 Psych was off.

00:23:42.720 Shoot your target.

00:23:45.940 Nice kerfinger.

00:23:46.660 And there's really absolutely no way he's going to survive that.

00:23:55.440 He's shooting a dummy.

00:23:56.300 But just to make sure, we have the chainsaw bayonet.

00:24:00.420 Now, I want you to know, yes, it is a scary looking black gun, but it's environmentally friendly.

00:24:08.480 We didn't want to put any more nasty CO2 into the atmosphere.

00:24:15.380 So, shot your victim.

00:24:18.160 And of course, he's completely dead.

00:24:20.620 You get down to your victim, who is clearly already dead.

00:24:25.100 Shot him in the mouth and the eyes and in the neck.

00:24:29.740 And then, you can go to work.

00:24:35.380 Receive your AR from scary to sick.

00:24:48.300 The thing I say, God bless America.

00:24:54.940 I don't know if that's up at glenbeck.com, but you have to see that.

00:24:57.760 And you can make it yourself.

00:24:59.680 I mean, all those things, as scary as it is, available, you know, at your local hardware store.

00:25:05.500 AR not included.

00:25:06.400 Well, yeah, that's kind of an important part of that.

00:25:08.780 But you do need very dangerous weapons to defend yourselves against the scary things in our environment.

00:25:14.280 I am working on something new, and I am going to, I hope to, unveil it at the M1 Ball this Saturday.

00:25:23.540 And it is the ultimate attachment to an AR.

00:25:28.180 And I've been working on it.

00:25:29.740 You've seen.

00:25:30.600 I've seen the designs.

00:25:31.640 I've seen the blueprints.

00:25:32.480 And I can agree that if you get this thing done, it's going to be the most devastating attachment to it.

00:25:36.560 I don't know if I'll have it ready, but I hope to unveil it at the M1 Ball.

00:25:41.700 And then that way, I'll be able to take my competition out for the armadillo race, who I believe has to be cheating.

00:25:51.440 Welcome to the program, Jeff Fisher.

00:25:53.200 Hello, Glenn.

00:25:54.020 Hi.

00:25:54.640 Hello, Steve.

00:25:55.200 Hello, Jeffy.

00:25:56.540 So we're doing an armadillo race, which, by the way, they are carriers of leprosy.

00:26:01.980 I just want to throw that again.

00:26:05.340 That's not going to scare me.

00:26:07.260 No.

00:26:07.280 So we're having an armadillo race.

00:26:09.820 I've never been in an armadillo race.

00:26:12.360 But you can bet on us, and all the proceeds go for charity.

00:26:17.700 And for some reason, Jeffy is creaming all of us.

00:26:21.140 And, I mean, I don't even know how.

00:26:24.540 He doesn't even have a show.

00:26:26.040 Nothing.

00:26:26.720 He has.

00:26:29.000 Now, Jeffy, of course, was hosting the Morning Blaze with Doc Thompson this morning.

00:26:34.080 I happened to see that when we came in.

00:26:35.480 Yes, I was.

00:26:36.100 I was building for Doc the last couple of days.

00:26:37.660 I don't know the Blaze Radio.

00:26:38.380 Other than that, I got nothing.

00:26:40.020 You got nothing.

00:26:40.740 I got chewing the fat on the Pat Gray Unleashed program.

00:26:44.340 Yeah, chewing the fat with Jeffy.

00:26:45.660 But nothing else.

00:26:46.300 Other than that.

00:26:47.060 You don't have a podcast.

00:26:47.980 Other than this podcast.

00:26:49.020 Yeah, what's that?

00:26:50.340 Anyway.

00:26:50.600 Anyway, so, those podcasts, that's a fad.

00:26:54.400 Anyway, so, Jeffy, I wanted to bring you in.

00:26:58.540 Yeah.

00:26:59.660 Because a listener.

00:27:02.380 Oh, boy.

00:27:03.500 Yes.

00:27:04.860 A listener wrote in, Glenn and Stu, you should know, did I tell you that I felt really, really

00:27:12.700 bad that I broke the boot off of the armadillo the other day?

00:27:17.700 What?

00:27:18.560 Yeah, I broke the boot off the armadillo.

00:27:20.240 It was here, and I broke it on the air.

00:27:22.740 The trophy?

00:27:23.720 That I'm going to win?

00:27:24.520 And it really bothered me.

00:27:27.280 Yeah.

00:27:27.620 It bothered me deeply.

00:27:28.920 Yeah, he was worked up about that.

00:27:30.020 Yeah.

00:27:30.120 Because, you know, it was the big prize for the armadillo race.

00:27:33.200 For the actual race.

00:27:34.180 Yeah.

00:27:34.520 I mean, the race of financial, that's just another race.

00:27:37.960 That's a race that I'm going to get hands down.

00:27:40.000 I'm already winning hands down.

00:27:41.000 Right.

00:27:41.180 You are winning.

00:27:42.040 You are winning so far.

00:27:43.300 I've been practicing.

00:27:45.240 Yeah.

00:27:45.420 So anyway, it says, just an FYI, Jeffy broke the armadillo leg.

00:27:51.260 He did it on Facebook Live last week.

00:27:54.620 He just stuck it back on there.

00:27:57.520 It's not Glenn's fault.

00:28:00.420 Is this true?

00:28:02.060 Absolutely true.

00:28:05.780 100%.

00:28:06.180 You let Glenn suffer on national radio television.

00:28:09.920 I was in the other room going, Mercury One, do not come over to Glenn Beck.

00:28:14.220 Don't tell him.

00:28:14.860 Don't tell him.

00:28:15.480 Don't tell him.

00:28:16.000 I asked her later that day if she had come over and told you that it was already broken.

00:28:20.400 No, we have listeners who like us.

00:28:22.540 Yeah.

00:28:23.040 I mean, not enough apparently.

00:28:25.500 Because I'm in second to last place and Glenn's in third to last place.

00:28:29.040 That's wrong.

00:28:29.620 I mean, it was, I mean, it broke.

00:28:34.080 So how did you break it?

00:28:34.760 It broke.

00:28:35.500 How did you break it?

00:28:36.200 Did you take a bite out of it or what happened?

00:28:38.120 Yes, it was lunchtime.

00:28:39.740 That's what happened.

00:28:41.080 I heard that if you fry them up, Adelo can get those up right off the road.

00:28:45.460 They're good to go.

00:28:46.220 They're carriers of leprosy.

00:28:47.340 Not after you cook them.

00:28:51.400 No, the people are kind enough to have me in front, defeating you people, you other people.

00:28:56.720 You are up by, give or take, 50% over Pat.

00:29:01.380 I know.

00:29:01.860 Who is in second place.

00:29:03.440 And you're crushing us.

00:29:05.160 You're three times basically, Glenn and I.

00:29:07.420 Listen, people.

00:29:08.380 Listen, people.

00:29:09.620 This isn't right.

00:29:10.280 This is wrong.

00:29:11.280 Fix this.

00:29:11.580 This is wrong.

00:29:12.440 Fix this, America.

00:29:12.720 Fix this.

00:29:12.940 Go to mercuryone.org and fix this.

00:29:16.020 Mercuryone.org slash armadillo is how you can get there.

00:29:19.000 You can see the race.

00:29:20.180 And you can donate.

00:29:21.180 Clearly donate to me.

00:29:22.440 All the money goes to charity.

00:29:23.620 All the money goes to Mercury One.

00:29:25.020 You're right.

00:29:25.580 And so when you do that, when you donate something, you can select who it will benefit on the

00:29:31.760 armadillo race.

00:29:32.560 It cannot be Jeffy.

00:29:33.480 It should not be Jeffy.

00:29:34.440 It should be Stu.

00:29:35.520 It could be anyone.

00:29:35.980 You could go on leprosy.

00:29:38.580 Doc, Pat, Brad, anybody.

00:29:40.560 Just not Jeffy.

00:29:42.640 Really?

00:29:43.240 Yes.

00:29:43.700 Can't be done.

00:29:44.180 Wow.

00:29:44.620 Can't be done.

00:29:45.060 I mean, a vote for Jeffy is a vote for leprosy.

00:29:47.460 It really is.

00:29:48.960 Really is.

00:29:49.760 You hang around him too much and your fingers start to fall off.

00:29:53.220 Your arms fall off.

00:29:55.000 So it's ugly.

00:29:56.060 It's ugly.

00:29:56.800 So thank you, Jeffy, for making me feel good.

00:29:58.680 It was great, though.

00:29:59.080 Great to stop by and see you.

00:30:00.200 Yeah.

00:30:00.460 No, it was always good to see you.

00:30:01.500 Oh, man.

00:30:02.340 Did I miss seeing you?

00:30:03.580 Oh, do I miss you every day?

00:30:05.320 You bet.

00:30:06.740 You bet.

00:30:08.020 And thank you for breaking the trophy.

00:30:10.320 Yeah.

00:30:10.980 That was incredibly nice.

00:30:12.780 I thought it was classy that you owned up to it, too.

00:30:16.740 You didn't just go, oh, crap, and stick the boot back on.

00:30:20.900 I'm glad.

00:30:22.300 No, that's a classy move.

00:30:23.760 Well.

00:30:24.160 It's a classy move.

00:30:24.800 But what else are you going to do?

00:30:25.660 Well, I don't know.

00:30:26.840 I don't know.

00:30:28.000 Admit it, you know.

00:30:29.480 Well, I did.

00:30:30.460 Okay.

00:30:31.100 After you see in front of me.

00:30:33.340 Thank you, Jeffy.

00:30:34.520 By the way, last night I finished three paintings.

00:30:39.440 I kind of want to sell them as a set, but I don't think anybody's going to buy them as a set.

00:30:44.720 The three people that are the defenders of freedom, the three people that were really responsible for bringing down the Berlin Wall, one is Ronald Reagan, one is Pope John Paul, and the third is, I think, Meryl Streep.

00:31:02.180 No, Margaret Thatcher.

00:31:04.960 Did you have a review here, Jeffy, on some of the artwork?

00:31:08.440 Glenn's actually getting pretty good.

00:31:10.600 I'm looking at him going, those aren't bad.

00:31:13.160 Those aren't bad.

00:31:14.940 Yeah, you're getting pretty good.

00:31:16.060 I mean, you're saying you did those.

00:31:18.080 Yeah, I did them.

00:31:19.740 I mean, I know your name's on them, but I'm actually saying you did them.

00:31:22.280 Okay.

00:31:22.520 You can verify.

00:31:23.220 My wife yelled at me all weekend.

00:31:25.540 Believe me.

00:31:25.880 Oh, those look great.

00:31:26.700 Those cause battle scars at the house.

00:31:29.500 She's like, stop it.

00:31:31.160 Stop it.

00:31:32.240 Enough.

00:31:33.000 Enough.

00:31:33.800 And you listened to that clearly.

00:31:35.080 Yeah, I did.

00:31:35.740 Jean-Luc Picard.

00:31:36.900 No, that's Pope John Paul.

00:31:38.540 A young Hillary Clinton.

00:31:39.940 No, that's Margaret Thatcher.

00:31:41.480 And, of course, the Cowardly Lion from...

00:31:43.540 No, the Cowardly Lion.

00:31:44.960 That would be Ronald Reagan.

00:31:46.520 It looks like the Cowardly Lion.

00:31:47.800 He was really hard.

00:31:49.000 He was really hard.

00:31:50.200 I struggled with that one.

00:31:51.860 He was hard.

00:31:53.120 Pope John Paul, Margaret Thatcher, pretty easy.

00:31:55.480 Ronald Reagan, for some reason.

00:31:57.000 But, I mean, it doesn't look like the Cowardly Lion, does it?

00:31:59.380 Yeah, look, if you kind of look at, like...

00:32:01.180 If you look at the fur around his mouth, the white part is fur.

00:32:04.700 No, it's not fur.

00:32:05.700 Now it looks like it's a Cowardly Lion.

00:32:07.980 It does look like a big mustache thing happening.

00:32:10.020 Is that a commentary on Reagan?

00:32:12.120 Are you saying he was a coward?

00:32:13.300 Is that what that is?

00:32:14.460 No, I'm not.

00:32:15.000 Wow.

00:32:15.380 I mean, you know, Glenn, he's the 100th most important person in the world of art.

00:32:18.460 This is a guy who makes statements.

00:32:20.100 With his art.

00:32:21.020 With his art.

00:32:21.640 You know that, Jeffy.

00:32:22.540 Absolutely.

00:32:23.060 We've known that for years.

00:32:24.080 I think these will be posted up on their auction site, and then they will go for the live auction.

00:32:30.460 But I think you can bid on them online as well.

00:32:36.040 They're not up there yet, but they will be, I think, tomorrow or something, at mercuryone.org slash m1ball.

00:32:47.520 I think we'll take you there.

00:32:48.460 You just look for the auctions.

00:32:49.460 They really should be sold as a set, though.

00:32:51.500 I think so.

00:32:51.960 They were made for a set.

00:32:52.820 Yeah, that is a set.

00:32:53.340 They were made as a set.

00:32:54.800 So you can't sell them separate, period.

00:32:56.400 I don't want to, but, you know, it's for charity, so whatever they want to do.

00:33:00.600 And you go to mercuryone.org slash ronaldreaganisacoward if you want to look at Glenn's latest artwork.

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00:33:06.760 It's a strange stance, I'll say.

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00:35:14.720 We have some really important news on another breakthrough for society, which I think is really, really good.

00:35:24.500 This is from Tampa, Florida.

00:35:27.580 A man named Jadu says that he is Filipino, except he was born white in Florida, and his name is Adam.

00:35:37.800 But he makes a good case here, and I want you to hear this.

00:35:41.900 Whenever, you know, I'm around, whenever I'm around the music, I'm around the food, I feel like I'm in my own skin.

00:35:47.360 I'd watch the History Channel sometimes for hours, you know, whenever, whenever it came to that.

00:35:52.120 And, you know, nothing else intrigues me.

00:35:53.640 Can we just stop for just a second?

00:35:54.500 Can we just stop for a second?

00:35:55.620 We'll pick it up.

00:35:56.420 I want to start from the beginning again.

00:35:58.020 I just want to stop here and say, we are doomed.

00:36:01.020 We are doomed.

00:36:04.000 Just an unrelated comment?

00:36:05.700 It doesn't seem like it.

00:36:07.360 Entirely.

00:36:07.880 Okay.

00:36:08.260 I mean, good heavens, listen to this.

00:36:11.900 Whenever, you know, I'm around, whenever I'm around the music, I'm around the food, I feel like I'm in my own skin.

00:36:17.840 I'd watch the History Channel sometimes for hours, you know, whenever, whenever it came to that.

00:36:22.400 And, you know, nothing else intrigued me more but, you know, things about, you know, Filipino culture.

00:36:27.900 I think if you're unhappy with who you are and you change yourself for the better and that makes you happy, you know, go for it.

00:36:33.680 But it's, I, I would never say it was a privilege to, you know, be unhappy with yourself all the time.

00:36:40.480 Well, the funny thing is, is, you know, I had to make sure that it wasn't just me because if it's just me, then there must be something wrong or maybe I'm just, maybe I'm just strange.

00:36:50.800 So, you know, I created the group in hopes of, you know, getting our message out in a bottle and people started to join.

00:36:58.680 People started to message me about, you know, their conflictions with themselves.

00:37:02.540 My family knows about my transsexuality, but they don't know anything about this.

00:37:06.260 It's just, my mom is kind of an older world person.

00:37:08.740 Okay, stop, stop.

00:37:10.480 That's an interesting line.

00:37:11.700 This is, yeah.

00:37:12.440 I knew if I could find others, it wasn't just me because if it was just me, then there must be something wrong with me.

00:37:19.780 No, have you ever thought that there's another option?

00:37:22.400 There's something wrong with you and a few other people.

00:37:26.780 I can't think.

00:37:27.420 Just because you could find somebody else that's like, you know what?

00:37:30.220 I know you're white, but I believe you're Filipino because I'm white and I believe I'm Chinese.

00:37:34.440 Please, that doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with you.

00:37:41.200 Glenn, back.

00:37:42.340 Hi.

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00:38:54.180 Glenn Beck.

00:38:55.180 Bernie Sanders was going out to recycle his cans and a neighbor attacked him last night and broke both of his legs.

00:39:08.380 Now, if I told you that story and it was true, that would be pretty outrageous, right?

00:39:12.800 It would probably be the biggest thing that has happened.

00:39:15.020 I mean, it would be everywhere.

00:39:16.220 If I told you that Elizabeth Warren's arm was pulled out of her socket by an angry neighbor when she went to pick up her, you know, Amazon Prime box of custom presidential buttons, everyone would be really upset, outraged.

00:39:30.660 And they should be.

00:39:31.080 And they should be.

00:39:31.940 Why?

00:39:32.260 Why?

00:39:34.080 Because you're human.

00:39:35.480 You have feelings.

00:39:37.080 No person should be viciously assaulted by another person.

00:39:40.580 And at that point, your political opinions don't mean anything.

00:39:45.800 But speaking of political views, you could just imagine how crazy the left would be over one of their own being treated so badly.

00:39:55.620 But they would be livid, right?

00:39:58.540 And calling for immediate criminal prosecution if it was happening to one of theirs, right?

00:40:04.580 Why is it we hear crickets when it comes to Rand Paul's attack?

00:40:09.500 In his first interview, since he was assaulted by his neighbor, Rand struggled to speak.

00:40:15.160 He has six broken ribs and a damaged lung.

00:40:18.780 Despite his injuries, he tried to explain that there was still no motive that he could imagine.

00:40:25.900 Rand said this was his first encounter with this neighbor when he was attacked.

00:40:30.620 They never had words over anything.

00:40:34.460 Now, there had been this ridiculous story that his neighbor attacked the senator because of grass clippings.

00:40:39.940 And then it came out that he had vitriolic feelings for the Republicans and he was very anti-Trump.

00:40:48.780 Now, Rand does have a record of siding with Trump, but he is no means the president's cheerleader.

00:40:54.720 There was also talk about the, you know, yard maintenance and a property line.

00:41:00.400 But all of the neighbors have debunked that as a false narrative.

00:41:04.900 So what the hell is going on?

00:41:07.780 A U.S. senator was attacked.

00:41:12.160 We know one thing for certain.

00:41:14.460 Rand's neighbor who was charged with fourth degree assault.

00:41:18.780 How does that even work?

00:41:23.480 He was released on Saturday on a $7,500 bail.

00:41:27.700 Isn't it time we all find some common ground and say it doesn't matter if it's Bernie Sanders or Rand Paul?

00:41:36.240 We have to make sure the attacker knows that his behavior is not acceptable,

00:41:41.240 no matter what your political bent is.

00:41:52.240 It's Tuesday, November 14th.

00:41:54.660 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:56.560 I have been really trying to bone up on the future and reading a lot of science lately.

00:42:10.840 And I'll share some of that with you in the in the coming weeks.

00:42:14.860 But I firmly believe that as if when I told you in 2005 that America, you're going to wake up and you're not even going to recognize your country.

00:42:25.020 That seemed crazy.

00:42:27.000 And I think we're there.

00:42:28.340 I think people are like, I don't even understand this world that I'm living in.

00:42:31.560 You take that feeling and, you know, you double that, triple that.

00:42:40.560 That's how you're going to feel by 2030.

00:42:43.240 Life will be completely different on planet Earth, not just the country, but all life.

00:42:49.540 The way we interact with each other, the way we move everything, medicine.

00:42:54.120 I think we are 15 years away from from curing cancer and muscular dystrophy.

00:43:00.960 There's some bright days on the horizon, but it is going to cause a lot of turmoil, especially if you're not prepared for it.

00:43:10.000 So I was reading an article from Auto News, and it came from Bob Lutz.

00:43:18.560 It's called Kiss the Good Times Goodbye.

00:43:22.080 Bob is quite a credible, credible guy.

00:43:26.300 Retired as vice chairman of General Motors, 47 year career in the global automotive industry,

00:43:33.000 senior leadership positions for four of the world's leading automakers.

00:43:37.540 He was the former vice chairman and head of development at General Motors.

00:43:43.800 His resume is quite long and extensive, but I would rather have you just listen to him.

00:43:50.840 Bob Lutz is joining us now to talk about the future of the auto industry and the automobile.

00:43:59.320 Bob, how are you, sir?

00:44:00.560 I thank you, Glenn. And you?

00:44:02.320 I'm great. I'm honored that you would come on the program.

00:44:05.760 You you wrote an amazing story called Kiss the Good Times Goodbye, where you are you're talking about how everything is going to change.

00:44:18.740 And you say the automobile is a thing of the past.

00:44:22.380 Yeah. And I said, you know, in that article, I said in 20 years, and if some people are taking issue with that piece, nobody is taking issue with the future, as I outlined it.

00:44:36.860 Everybody says, yeah, we accept that. That's the way it's going to be.

00:44:40.100 I think a lot of people have trouble with my statement saying it's going to be in 20 years.

00:44:46.080 And, you know, as I look at it in retrospect, I think, yeah, maybe that is a little overly pessimistic, because, first of all, what I didn't say in the article is that the move to fully autonomous modules that are not controlled by humans will occur in stages.

00:45:07.400 And that's what one or two of the critics of my article have pointed out.

00:45:11.380 And they're quite right. It'll begin first in the urban centers where human driven cars will will be banned.

00:45:20.240 But in the outlying areas, in the rural countryside, et cetera, et cetera, it'll take longer.

00:45:26.320 And the whole thing may take instead of 20 years, it may take 30.

00:45:30.240 So, Bob, you know, that is the one thing that I found in your article, because I thought everything was spot on, except you were talking about fully autonomous vehicles.

00:45:43.180 And the problem we have now is the middle of the country is unmapped and the middle of the country changes so often because we're building and growing, et cetera, et cetera, that it is going to it's going to take a long time just to be able just to map the entire country.

00:46:02.040 Is that the problem you're seeing as well?

00:46:06.740 No, I don't think the mapping is going to be a problem because, for instance, one of the one of the big mapping companies, a company called Usher, and I have to disclose that I'm a board member.

00:46:21.020 But they have ways now of putting mapping devices on fleet vehicles, you know, big fleets like FedEx, UPS, and so forth, so that mapping will be a continuous thing.

00:46:36.700 And, yeah, and that's another reason why it will probably go in stages.

00:46:43.300 But I'll tell you what, the metro areas are thoroughly mapped, and that's where the problem is with human driven vehicles.

00:46:51.020 There's been places like L.A. and Chicago and so forth where you just there's so much national productivity lost sitting in traffic, not to mention accidents, students, distracted driving, texting, intoxication, and so forth.

00:47:09.040 So, Bob, can you take us back to the beginning of this?

00:47:13.700 Because there are several things that are going to change life dramatically.

00:47:20.720 And coming from, you know, a former chair of General Motors, it really carries a lot of weight.

00:47:27.980 Because you say these are not cars as we know it.

00:47:32.300 In fact, performance will be a thing of the past.

00:47:35.380 Do you think that it could wipe out BMW and, you know, Ferrari, et cetera, et cetera, as we know it?

00:47:44.440 Is General Motors, are they going to be making these pods, or do you see them made by Google?

00:47:51.960 Well, I don't think Google knows how to manufacture.

00:47:55.400 I think they're good at software.

00:47:58.680 But somebody else will be, they'll be the transportation, the enablers, the transportation providers.

00:48:05.080 But the so-called modules will be made by companies that know how to do that at low cost.

00:48:12.040 And that'll be the global automobile companies.

00:48:14.260 Except what's going to be gone is the whole brand value of automobiles.

00:48:19.980 You know, mine's more expensive.

00:48:21.660 Mine's more prestigious.

00:48:23.260 Mine comes from Germany.

00:48:25.080 That's all going to be gone because these driverless or control-less autonomous modules,

00:48:33.460 which of necessity have to be all pretty much the same shape,

00:48:37.140 they're going to be manufactured to the low bidder.

00:48:44.280 And the bids are going to be placed by the big transportation companies.

00:48:47.780 And I fully expect that Uber and Lyft and so forth and other companies,

00:48:53.240 Maven, will be among the big fleets who are the value providers.

00:48:58.160 But General Motors gets it because General Motors owns a piece of Lyft, owns Maven, and so forth.

00:49:08.820 So General Motors is a company that understands that capturing the value is no longer going to be in the sale of the car.

00:49:16.620 Capturing the value is going to be providing the downstream transportation service.

00:49:22.300 So I've always been impressed, Bob, by the history of General Motors.

00:49:27.940 You know, Ford gets all the credit for the assembly line,

00:49:34.160 but it was actually the former chairman of Chevy that was working for Henry Ford

00:49:42.140 that actually put it together in a workable way.

00:49:45.340 They also were Fisher Carriage originally.

00:49:49.680 And when they saw the assembly line finally work, they said,

00:49:53.820 OK, we've got to get out of the horse and buggy business, and we're going to make automobiles.

00:49:57.880 So they've already transformed once.

00:50:00.260 You see them on the cutting edge of transforming a second time?

00:50:05.400 I do.

00:50:06.400 I think General Motors has a bigger reservoir of highly skilled people

00:50:15.180 than any other automobile company on the planet.

00:50:18.120 But sometimes, you know, the so-called bean counters, as I like to call them,

00:50:25.180 tend to inhibit creativity in the interest of short-term profitability.

00:50:31.880 So every large company goes through those phases.

00:50:34.680 But I will tell you, when it comes to technological capability and just basic smarts,

00:50:43.900 I don't think there's any match for General Motors out there.

00:50:47.720 They're really good.

00:50:48.840 So, Bob, what does...

00:50:51.480 Because right now, people are trying to get their arms around Tesla, which, you know,

00:50:57.280 it can drive itself, et cetera, et cetera.

00:50:59.560 But you're still looking at a Tesla that looks like a car and everything else.

00:51:04.480 What does the car of the future look like?

00:51:09.360 Well, first of all, just a word on the Tesla system.

00:51:12.840 The Tesla system relies on sensors, is not very autonomous.

00:51:18.920 It requires the driver's hand to be on the wheel at all times, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:51:23.340 Whereas Cadillac Super Cruise will now take you from Chicago to New York or L.A. to San Francisco

00:51:33.800 without you ever touching the wheel.

00:51:36.800 So on vehicle autonomy, General Motors is ahead, too.

00:51:41.420 Didn't know that.

00:51:42.540 Yeah, no, a lot of people don't.

00:51:44.060 And also, what most of the...

00:51:51.240 The reason why some companies seem to be a little slower

00:51:55.140 is that they understand the value of embedded, digital, super-precise,

00:52:02.140 and that means down-to-four-inches, maps.

00:52:05.520 And Tesla up to now does not use maps.

00:52:08.900 They're using a lot of eyes and ears in the car.

00:52:12.060 Whereas the GM approach is to put in, is to do this super-precise mapping

00:52:18.800 to where, if there were no obstacles,

00:52:21.820 the car could actually get from Detroit to Chicago without any sensors

00:52:26.560 because the car knows so precisely down to four inches where it is at all times.

00:52:32.080 The only thing you need the sensors for is other objects.

00:52:36.680 So you go from a...

00:52:38.800 The Tesla sensing system has to see...

00:52:41.420 It's got to see everything.

00:52:42.360 It's got to see curbstones.

00:52:43.540 It's got to see potholes.

00:52:44.740 It's got to see trees in addition to objects that are in the road.

00:52:49.300 If you have a sufficiently accurate embedded map,

00:52:52.380 all you need is sensors to tell you, like for a blind person,

00:52:56.720 he's got to know that the dog is lying in his path.

00:53:00.100 So the Tesla will see a pothole, but the GM will not see a pothole?

00:53:06.700 No, no, he will see it also because it'll be in the map.

00:53:10.620 You're mapping potholes?

00:53:13.360 Well, it's down to four inches.

00:53:15.740 When they do freeway, they do every lane separately on a freeway.

00:53:20.580 Holy cow.

00:53:23.740 Okay, so Bob, we haven't even begun to scratch the surface.

00:53:27.540 I need to take a quick break and then we'll come back with Bob Lutz,

00:53:31.640 author of Icons and Idiots, Straight Talk on Leadership, in just a second.

00:53:38.760 A guy you really need to listen to.

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00:55:12.480 Glenn Beck.

00:55:20.760 Glenn Beck.

00:55:21.980 Former Vice Chairman and Head of Development at General Motors, Bob Lutz,

00:55:28.200 wrote an article, Kiss the Good Times Goodbye.

00:55:31.620 He says,

00:55:32.100 The end state will be a fully autonomous module with no capability for the driver to exercise command.

00:55:38.420 You'll call for it.

00:55:39.260 It'll arrive at your location.

00:55:40.560 You get in, input your destination, and go on the freeway.

00:55:43.400 On the freeway, it will merge seamlessly into a stream of other modules traveling at 120 to 150 miles an hour.

00:55:51.100 Bob, why is the average person hearing this kind of stuff, and they're not keeping up with technology,

00:56:01.900 what makes this different than the prediction of flying cars?

00:56:08.580 Well, flying cars, you wind up with either a lousy airplane or a lousy automobile,

00:56:15.960 but it's very hard to ever get flying cars right.

00:56:20.400 And by the way, as I never tire of saying, and I remind my automotive friends of this,

00:56:26.440 vehicle autonomy is actually easier to, full vehicle autonomy is easier to attain in the 3D space

00:56:34.500 than it is on two-dimensional surfaces.

00:56:37.040 If you have, like, an autonomous helicopter taxi service that connects the inner city to the airport

00:56:43.920 and just shuttles back and forth, that, from a technological and software and control standpoint to solve,

00:56:51.920 is far easier, far easier than doing it on a surface roadway.

00:56:56.880 So, yeah, there will be a lot of flying modules that operate in three-dimensional space,

00:57:05.340 probably from ground level up to about 1,000 feet,

00:57:08.620 so that they don't interfere with regular air traffic and can stay outside the FAA system.

00:57:14.700 So, no, your comment was a very, very astute one.

00:57:18.200 It will be both.

00:57:23.120 There are people that I think the vast majority of Americans can't get their arms around

00:57:31.600 how different life will be by 2030, including their jobs.

00:57:39.200 Can you go into that at all?

00:57:41.960 Well, a friend of mine was with IBM Advanced Systems Development Division in the 60s,

00:57:49.100 and they forecast that by the year 2000, you know, they were off in their timing,

00:57:54.360 we would have a largely cybernated society with machines producing machines,

00:58:01.840 machines designing machines, machines maintaining machines,

00:58:05.580 and a lot of the wealth in the world being created basically fully automatically without human intervention.

00:58:16.880 And what do we do then?

00:58:18.320 And even IBM in the mid-60s postulated that what we were going to have to do is so much wealth is being produced

00:58:27.380 by so little human input that we would evolve a system where people essentially get a guaranteed annual salary

00:58:36.860 just to do nothing, which would enable them to open a little cobbler store or a local bakery

00:58:44.280 or start making violins again, all things that have disappeared.

00:58:48.700 So I do believe that's going to happen.

00:58:52.020 I mean, medicine can largely be replaced by technology.

00:58:57.260 Okay. So, Bob, hold on just a second.

00:58:58.840 I want to pick it up right there and how life is changing and what it means to the average person.

00:59:07.220 Glenn Beck.

00:59:08.340 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:59:20.680 We are lucky enough to have Bob Lutz on.

00:59:24.420 He is the former vice chairman and head of development at General Motors

00:59:29.520 who wrote an awesome article that you really need to read,

00:59:34.320 Kiss the Good Times Goodbye.

00:59:35.440 Everyone will have five years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap in the future.

00:59:41.960 He says that we are not going to be driving our cars

00:59:45.000 and our cars are not going to look anything like they look now.

00:59:48.440 In fact, they'll all pretty much be the same.

00:59:51.720 And you won't own one.

00:59:55.600 And, Bob, talk to me a little bit about what has to change in the mindset of Americans.

01:00:00.280 I mean, you know, Americans have always loved their car.

01:00:05.640 It's personal to them.

01:00:08.120 And we also, you know, we're a performance nation.

01:00:12.480 I mean, you know, the new Dodge Demon, 0 to 60 in 2.3 seconds, 850 horsepower.

01:00:19.780 We like that stuff.

01:00:21.220 Well, I like it too, but it's unfortunately increasingly incompatible with the prime reason we have cars.

01:00:32.320 The others are just social psychological reasons.

01:00:35.480 They're kind of side benefits of vehicle ownership.

01:00:39.020 The primary purpose of cars, of course, is surface efficient, safe surface transportation.

01:00:45.580 And sad to say, the automobile, as we know it today, is increasingly failing in those areas

01:00:51.920 because we have so much congestion and because people, you know, they're not all enthusiastic drivers.

01:00:59.420 A lot of them like to text, take drugs, drink, watch TV on their smartphones,

01:01:07.740 or engage in other risky behavior that has nothing to do with the safe option.

01:01:12.480 So I can see us regulate it out, you know, that in 20 years you can't drive.

01:01:20.480 You know, I don't believe my kids who are young, you know, 11 and 13,

01:01:26.100 are going to be driving very long in their life just because of Uber, et cetera, et cetera.

01:01:32.520 But this is coming.

01:01:34.680 We'll regulate it out.

01:01:36.440 But what I can't get around is how the average American says, I don't want a car anymore,

01:01:44.000 but I see that happening with millennials.

01:01:46.000 But a bigger stumbling block is people like General Motors.

01:01:49.940 You guys make a ton of your money on lending.

01:01:54.760 Yeah.

01:01:55.400 Well, that could continue.

01:01:56.720 And there's nothing to be said that the automobile companies cannot lend to the big fleets like Uber and Lyft,

01:02:05.820 just like GMAC does now.

01:02:07.760 So, you know, I fully expect to see the smart car companies survive,

01:02:13.940 but they'll just survive in a different form.

01:02:17.320 Who do you think survives and who doesn't survive?

01:02:24.100 Well, I would say the big companies that can produce efficiently and produce high quality at low cost

01:02:31.400 and basically produce an unbranded product that'll be branded Lyft or Uber or Maven or whatever,

01:02:40.500 they'll survive.

01:02:41.520 It'll be tougher for the small specialty companies that have sold on image.

01:02:49.060 Give me an example, because when you're talking to General Motors,

01:02:52.160 I don't know what you mean by a small company.

01:02:54.820 So, give me.

01:02:55.900 Well, I think specialty manufacturers like Maserati, maybe even BMW or Mercedes,

01:03:04.080 which are, you have to ask yourself, do those companies add any value in the basic transportation function

01:03:12.160 or do they sell because of a whole series of social beliefs and aura that's attached to the brand,

01:03:23.320 an aura of superiority that's attached to German origin and so forth?

01:03:27.480 Well, when all these things are branded Uber and Lyft and whatever, a brand isn't going to matter.

01:03:32.800 But there is a difference between getting into a Dodge and getting into a Mercedes.

01:03:41.340 It does, even if you strip it of all of its symbols, there is a difference in the quality of the vehicle, is there not?

01:03:49.640 Well, in terms of, yeah, maybe the materials are a little nicer and the seat fabric is a little nicer,

01:03:56.440 but at the end of the day, in terms of performing the transportation function,

01:04:01.900 that's basically the primal reason we have automobiles for it,

01:04:07.160 is human, efficient, rapid, safe, human surface transportation in two dimensions.

01:04:15.160 And, you know, in major urban areas, the automobile as we have it today,

01:04:19.640 not so much the car, but the people that are operating it, and it's an integral part of the equation,

01:04:26.280 are increasingly failing in that task.

01:04:29.200 And autonomous modules that are short, not driver-controlled, do not depend on human reaction,

01:04:35.860 where the person in front of you at a traffic light takes four seconds to wake up,

01:04:40.820 that the light has turned green.

01:04:42.540 None of that's going to happen anymore.

01:04:44.300 And we'll save enormous amounts of productive time for the whole economy.

01:04:49.720 So you say that, just like horses aren't used anymore, but rich people have racehorses,

01:04:56.240 you say that the Ferraris and et cetera, et cetera, will be had by the uber-rich,

01:05:03.380 but will that be used on a racetrack?

01:05:07.320 Well, no, but there are, first of all, I didn't say racehorses.

01:05:10.300 I said, you have to use the analogy of horses in general,

01:05:14.720 so that there will be off-road dude ranches for four-by-fours.

01:05:19.420 There will be privately owned tracks where you can drive any car.

01:05:25.700 Some of these might be public, like public golf courses,

01:05:28.560 where you have to demonstrate that you can drive,

01:05:31.240 and if you can drive, you can buy an hour or two on the track.

01:05:35.300 So the car hobby will continue to exist.

01:05:40.900 It's just not going to continue to exist on public roads.

01:05:45.420 And these places are cropping up all over the United States already.

01:05:51.640 There's one in Michigan in Pontiac called M1 Concourse.

01:05:55.300 There's one in Illinois, Autobahn.

01:05:57.800 One in New York called Monticello and so forth.

01:06:01.520 And you basically buy, it's like a country club.

01:06:05.840 You pay an initiation fee, and then you pay your dues membership,

01:06:09.500 and you can actually leave your cars out there.

01:06:12.860 And there will be manufacturers that continue to cater to that market.

01:06:18.980 And the nice thing about those cars is they'll be totally regulation-free.

01:06:23.360 You can make them any way you want,

01:06:25.020 because since they're not on the highways,

01:06:27.600 the feds and the local states have no jurisdiction over them.

01:06:31.520 So, Bob, as I look into basically what IBM said would happen by the year 2000,

01:06:38.960 they were off by probably about 30 years.

01:06:41.320 Yeah.

01:06:42.020 But we are moving in that direction.

01:06:44.740 And as I see the rate of change that is coming,

01:06:49.040 the best thing we can teach our children is that change is constant.

01:06:53.100 And to not cement their thinking into anything,

01:06:57.120 to always be looking for new things and experiencing new things.

01:07:01.460 I don't know how to teach that, even.

01:07:03.440 Well, it's not being taught.

01:07:05.740 In fact, they're being, you know,

01:07:07.900 the liberal establishment is teaching exactly the opposite.

01:07:12.120 I mean, every time some species happens to fade away out of the ocean or the rivers,

01:07:17.820 it's considered a major tragedy,

01:07:19.960 because these people behave like,

01:07:22.240 okay, so the world is millions of years old,

01:07:24.760 but now it's finished.

01:07:26.980 And, you know, the world is never finished.

01:07:29.400 It's a constant state of flux and mutation.

01:07:32.380 And the same thing is true for society and technological progress.

01:07:36.160 So, you know, I've been asked to describe automotive transportation 150 years from now.

01:07:42.800 And you know what I tell them?

01:07:44.080 I say, we won't even travel anymore.

01:07:46.160 It'll all be virtual.

01:07:48.280 So, Bob, so what if you are somebody who is working in anything that involves an automobile now,

01:07:57.220 what should you be working on?

01:07:59.280 What should you be thinking?

01:08:00.520 How can you prepare if that is your livelihood?

01:08:04.260 And second, how can we prepare our kids?

01:08:07.860 What should we be teaching our kids now to prepare them for a different America?

01:08:13.960 Well, I think you put it right.

01:08:16.340 You've got to teach people that change is a constant or, other than death and taxes,

01:08:22.240 the third thing that's for certain is change.

01:08:26.100 We have to make people comfortable with it.

01:08:28.920 As far as if you're working in the automotive or automotive-related industry,

01:08:32.520 keep your nose to the grindstone, learn as much as you can about autonomy, be prepared for change.

01:08:41.680 But, you know, this is going to be a gradual transition.

01:08:44.800 So, most of the people working in the industry today will live out their careers in the automotive industry.

01:08:52.720 It's not like it's all going to happen in five years.

01:08:54.980 But, as we were saying earlier, happen it will.

01:09:00.160 And, again, I think you said it right.

01:09:03.380 When it comes to teaching our kids what's important,

01:09:06.260 you have to teach them about the inevitability of change.

01:09:10.920 Bob Lutz, it is an honor to talk to you.

01:09:14.900 And thank you so much for all of the work that you do with the Marines and our servicemen and women.

01:09:21.480 We're appreciative for what you've done.

01:09:24.740 Thank you, Glenn.

01:09:25.540 I'm surprised you know about my Marine Corps service.

01:09:28.040 Oh, yeah.

01:09:29.760 We do our homework.

01:09:31.160 We do our homework.

01:09:32.260 So, thank you, sir.

01:09:33.580 Yeah, thank you.

01:09:34.380 God bless you, Bob Lutz, former vice chairman of General Motors and head of development at General Motors.

01:09:44.360 Incredible.

01:09:45.060 I mean, the vision of that future, you think of all the things that would need to change.

01:09:49.080 I mean, you know, we've been talking about a trillion-dollar stimulus bill over the past year or so in Washington.

01:09:56.920 How differently should that money be spent if it were to be spent?

01:10:00.700 Entirely differently.

01:10:01.340 When thinking about a future like that, and I can't imagine that Washington has a handle on this.

01:10:05.320 No, you talk to people, because I have.

01:10:07.200 You talk to people in Washington now, they wouldn't even understand what he's saying.

01:10:11.400 And I believe he's too pessimistic on the timeline.

01:10:15.860 Do you think 20 years is not too far out?

01:10:17.740 I don't think, I think, no, I think 15 years is right on the money.

01:10:22.340 And it may be changing, you know, he might be, I may be wrong on, you know, the banning of cars.

01:10:32.080 But we will, by 2030, we will be talking about that seriously.

01:10:37.240 And I don't know when the technology really cements itself.

01:10:42.260 But by 2030, you won't recognize, you will not recognize your life.

01:10:47.740 You will not recognize the country.

01:10:49.580 Well, as you think of how this stuff happens, the iPhone was released 10 years ago.

01:10:53.220 10.

01:10:53.940 I mean, think of how different the world is because of that invention and others like it.

01:10:59.220 And I think a lot of people look at that stuff and they think, ah, it's so far in the future.

01:11:02.540 And you know what?

01:11:03.060 People aren't going to accept those changes.

01:11:05.240 Yeah, they are.

01:11:06.000 And Bob outlines it really well in his article.

01:11:08.420 You don't have to.

01:11:09.460 You know who's going to do it for you?

01:11:11.560 Amazon, Uber, Lyft, Google, Apple.

01:11:14.480 All these companies are going to buy these things in the hundreds of thousands.

01:11:19.500 And they have so much power and so much influence that over time, it's going to change not only the market.

01:11:27.780 Why are companies going to keep building these things for individuals when they can sell hundreds of thousands to large companies?

01:11:32.780 But also through regulation.

01:11:33.920 These companies are already huge donors, huge lobbyists.

01:11:39.940 They're already moving policy like crazy.

01:11:42.300 And as this stuff happens and they're the ones manufacturing those cars, it's going to move fast.

01:11:46.140 And you also see, if you look at any of the trends of millennials, they're not buying cars.

01:11:50.960 They're just not buying cars like we used to.

01:11:53.440 When I was a kid and I turned 16, I mean, I was dreaming about my first car.

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01:12:02.420 And they're looking at cars and saying, why would I carry that load?

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01:14:48.820 Glenn Beck.

01:14:49.980 Glenn Beck.

01:15:02.780 So glad that you have joined us today.

01:15:06.400 I hesitate to say this because this is like Elvis for me.

01:15:13.500 I have waited my whole life since I was eight.

01:15:16.440 And I found out this guy just played Wembley, was it Wembley Stadium?

01:15:21.100 And I was so upset.

01:15:22.740 I mean, I would have saved, I would have saved and saved and saved to be able to see him.

01:15:26.240 And I thought, he's never going to perform again.

01:15:29.080 ELO just announced that they're doing a 10-city American tour and the tickets go on sale Friday.

01:15:35.640 Do not even think about getting ahead of me on tickets.

01:15:38.180 Don't even think about it.

01:15:39.300 I hesitated to even say it on the air.

01:15:41.880 Amazingly, I'm able to hold back.

01:15:43.300 Yeah, I know.

01:15:43.720 If you're my age, Jeff Lind and ELO, and they haven't done stuff,

01:15:49.360 I think this is the first time they've done anything in 30 years here.

01:15:53.240 I mean, it's crazy.

01:15:54.480 Sure, on another channel, you might be hearing about Taylor Swift's new tour.

01:15:58.780 Yeah, but not on this channel.

01:15:59.500 But not on this one.

01:16:00.180 Not on this channel.

01:16:01.220 Not on this channel.

01:16:03.720 Back in a second with a look at Roy Moore from a different perspective.

01:16:10.720 Glenn Beck.

01:16:13.720 Oh, thank goodness I know how to think again.

01:16:26.160 I know who to worship.

01:16:31.360 GQ Magazine has just named their Citizen of the Year.

01:16:34.940 And, of course, say it with me.

01:16:37.360 When I say Citizen of the Year, you immediately think?

01:16:40.580 Colin Kaepernick.

01:16:42.380 Right, right.

01:16:44.000 You know, it kind of makes you wonder what exactly their selection criteria is.

01:16:49.780 You know, some might have a hard time seeing this one.

01:16:52.460 So let's just take a quick rundown on memory lane here.

01:16:56.620 Back in 2013, Kaepernick was one of the best players in football.

01:17:00.860 A true Citizen of the Year, you know, would have begun his activism when he was on top.

01:17:06.760 But Colin mysteriously was quiet during this time.

01:17:11.760 When he was everybody's favorite, he was fine.

01:17:15.640 He was posing naked in ESPN's body issue.

01:17:18.900 But activism, no, no, it didn't have time for that.

01:17:22.120 He had a brand to build.

01:17:24.620 Now, Kaepernick's meteoric NFL rise was rivaled only by his fall.

01:17:30.000 And as his play declined and the magazine covers dried up, suddenly he appeared very, very interested on oppression.

01:17:38.840 Colin, you know, didn't have to move far to, you know, begin his taking a knee position.

01:17:46.520 I mean, because, you know, he was sitting right there on the bench.

01:17:49.180 It was just a real quick trip right to the ground.

01:17:52.020 But GQ apparently didn't find this suspicious that when he was on top, he was doing naked magazine stuff.

01:18:01.180 And then when he was at the bottom and nobody wanted to talk to him, suddenly he found things that were just too horrible.

01:18:08.740 He had to speak out.

01:18:10.140 They elevated him to the level yesterday in GQ of Muhammad Ali and Jackie Robinson.

01:18:19.400 Forget the fact that he was never interested in speaking out until it became convenient for him to do so.

01:18:26.640 And when it stopped being convenient, as his prospects in the NFL ran out, he went silent for an entire year to try to get his job back.

01:18:37.740 So let me just recap Colin Kaepernick's Citizen of the Year campaign.

01:18:44.540 The winner of GQ's award went to a man that began a misguided cause for selfish reasons and then who abandoned that misguided cause again for selfish reasons.

01:18:55.920 Oh, and I haven't even mentioned the fact that he glorifies Che Guevara, a mass murderer.

01:19:03.020 And he even has admitted that he doesn't even vote.

01:19:08.360 This qualifies him to be the citizen of the year?

01:19:15.660 Give me a second here.

01:19:16.960 How many people can you just now just off the top of your head that might deserve that a little just real quick?

01:19:23.340 How about J.J. Watt?

01:19:24.500 He raised over $37 million to help victims of Hurricane Harvey.

01:19:29.880 $37 million.

01:19:31.740 Completely on his own.

01:19:33.080 No outside help.

01:19:34.360 No selfish reasons.

01:19:36.960 What do you think about him?

01:19:37.840 How about, what was the guy's name?

01:19:43.040 Stephen Williford.

01:19:44.400 He was the guy, the private citizen, that exercised his rights, the Second Amendment,

01:19:50.680 and in the process stopped a mass murderer.

01:19:53.860 He wasn't a cop.

01:19:55.440 He was just a guy who ran out of the house, grabbed his gun because his neighbors were being shot to death.

01:20:02.180 He didn't even have shoes on.

01:20:04.780 Well, he didn't have a deal with Nike.

01:20:06.560 I don't know if we can put him on GQ.

01:20:08.740 How about the police that took down the New York City truck terrorist or the Green Berets that died fighting terrorists in Niger?

01:20:16.920 Or Colette Sulcer, the woman who sacrificed her own life to save her infant daughter from the waters of Hurricane Harvey?

01:20:27.040 No, Colin Kaepernick, he's the guy.

01:20:33.800 Those are examples of heroes committing uncommon acts of selfishness, selflessness, in the same way that Jackie Robinson did,

01:20:46.720 in the same way that Muhammad Ali did.

01:20:50.820 Can GQ say the same for Colin Kaepernick?

01:20:57.040 It's Tuesday, November 14th.

01:21:05.680 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:21:10.500 We have the one, the only.

01:21:14.000 John Ziegler with us.

01:21:16.580 A columnist, a podcast host, and a really smart guy

01:21:22.220 who you're going to find yourself disagreeing with from time to time, as it should be.

01:21:29.720 Welcome to the program.

01:21:30.760 How are you, John?

01:21:32.020 Glenn, great to talk to you.

01:21:33.420 That was a tremendous commentary on Colin Kaepernick, by the way.

01:21:38.020 Especially for a guy who doesn't know football.

01:21:39.580 I'm guessing Stu might have helped you with the football stuff.

01:21:41.800 Well, he might have helped me with the football stuff.

01:21:43.720 I saw Colin Kaepernick yesterday, and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

01:21:49.000 I mean, this is just, I can't take it anymore.

01:21:52.160 John, I have to, you'll have to look this up.

01:21:55.540 We have in the studio, you'll get a kick out of this.

01:22:00.500 We have a jacket.

01:22:01.980 Can you bring it over here?

01:22:02.660 We have a jacket that is a, like an army jacket, and it has, they have taken,

01:22:12.000 the designers have taken a Sharpie.

01:22:14.240 I'm not kidding you.

01:22:14.840 It's a Sharpie.

01:22:15.960 And they've written revolution on the front.

01:22:19.440 The anarchist symbol they've written.

01:22:23.540 We try, they tried to bury us, but they did not know we were seeds.

01:22:28.580 The bombing for peace is like F-ing for virginity.

01:22:35.620 My favorite is, I am valuable, I am powerful, I am deserving.

01:22:40.700 And it's written all over this jacket.

01:22:42.640 They're selling this jacket at Barney's in New York for $400.

01:22:49.580 And people wonder how Trump got elected.

01:22:53.500 I mean, this is, and by the way, here's a Molotov cocktail

01:22:57.660 while you're going around the store, and you just throw it through any window.

01:23:01.180 I mean, that's insanity.

01:23:03.160 Just insanity.

01:23:04.700 There's a lot of that going around.

01:23:06.320 Okay.

01:23:06.840 So, John, help me out.

01:23:10.040 I am uncomfortable.

01:23:11.980 I'm finding myself in this position where, as Stu said today,

01:23:15.740 I am both the biggest defender and the biggest critic of Roy Moore,

01:23:22.960 apparently online, because I believe the accusers,

01:23:29.900 but I'm also very cautious here, because this can turn into a witch hunt.

01:23:37.360 If it hasn't already, it will at some point.

01:23:42.520 I think your instincts are excellent on this.

01:23:44.900 And I think that the Roy Moore situation has caused a real problem for those of us

01:23:50.740 who believe in things like precedence and not causing a situation where we're setting new rules

01:23:58.200 that are going to come back to haunt us in the future.

01:24:00.900 I think that, and I'm somebody who does not like Roy Moore.

01:24:03.680 I think he's a nut.

01:24:05.020 I don't believe he belongs in the Senate.

01:24:07.160 I tend to believe the accusers,

01:24:08.720 but I also know that the standards that are being used to evaluate those accusers are very different

01:24:15.280 than they were, for instance, with Bill Clinton.

01:24:17.540 Oh, my gosh.

01:24:18.200 I can't.

01:24:19.140 And I think we're seeing this in almost all of these instances of sex abuse hysteria,

01:24:27.800 which has now taken over the culture since Harvey Weinstein,

01:24:31.000 which I wrote about in media yesterday.

01:24:33.060 I mean, the New York Daily News over the weekend had 11 guys on the front page of their newspaper,

01:24:39.600 not one of whom has ever been sued publicly or charged with a crime, you know,

01:24:45.520 with the headline, Perv Nation.

01:24:47.720 And with regard to Moore specifically, to me, I think that where I differ with regard to the mob yesterday

01:24:54.160 is, you know, take a look at that yearbook inscription,

01:24:57.960 which I fully acknowledge is weird and creepy for a guy much older than the girl was at the time.

01:25:04.660 I mean, have you ever signed outside of high school, John?

01:25:07.340 Have you ever signed a high school yearbook?

01:25:10.720 No.

01:25:11.140 No, neither have I.

01:25:12.220 There seems to be a lot of them floating around with his signature in it, which is weird.

01:25:16.440 No, no.

01:25:16.820 And look, and I think that it absolutely goes to the idea that this guy had a thing for young girls.

01:25:22.220 There's no question about that.

01:25:23.500 But yesterday's story was assault.

01:25:26.280 Assault, that's very different.

01:25:28.980 And to me, the idea that a very friendly, perhaps overly friendly, yearbook inscription 40 years later

01:25:37.960 can be used, as it was being used yesterday, as proof of an assault 40 years later?

01:25:45.480 That should scare the living daylights out of anybody, because we are setting rules up now

01:25:51.560 where it is exceedingly easy, exceedingly easy to destroy somebody based upon a false story.

01:25:59.020 And let's be clear about something.

01:26:00.420 This is the part the media will never accept, because it's way too politically incorrect.

01:26:05.260 But one of the things that has happened to our culture,

01:26:08.000 and I'm not saying this has anything to do with Roy Moore, okay?

01:26:10.340 I want to make this clear.

01:26:11.160 But there's no question that in our culture over the last generation, being a victim no

01:26:17.680 longer has any stigma.

01:26:19.360 In fact, for many people, being a victim is something to champion, that you can embrace

01:26:25.480 being a victim.

01:26:26.660 And you can get paid a heck of a lot of money now in our culture under the right circumstances

01:26:30.700 for being a victim.

01:26:31.980 And so the pendulum has swung so much, understandably so.

01:26:37.620 Look, there was a time when no one wanted to come forward and tell these stories, and it

01:26:41.640 was too tough to prove.

01:26:42.660 I get that.

01:26:43.560 But in an effort to try to correct that, we have gone so far in the other direction.

01:26:48.760 And now the media is publishing major news outlets, or publishing allegations, not just

01:26:54.960 against Roy Moore, but against minor celebrities from 30 years ago, based upon nothing but somebody's

01:27:01.960 word when they haven't been charged with a crime.

01:27:04.280 They haven't even been sued.

01:27:06.220 And to me, whenever the news media is involved in a firestorm that involves emotional hysteria,

01:27:13.120 their completion percentage is way worse than Colin Kaepernick.

01:27:16.760 Is that possible?

01:27:18.220 I don't know.

01:27:19.340 So, John, can we just go through this for a second?

01:27:23.100 Because, for instance, George Takai, I don't like this guy at all.

01:27:29.240 Right, right.

01:27:30.600 However, I heard, you know, the one story and thought, okay, this is not cool.

01:27:37.460 I mean, 30 years ago, one guy.

01:27:40.720 How is this news?

01:27:44.540 And then I heard him on, you know, I heard the tape of him on Howard Stern, and I'm like,

01:27:49.480 well, he's kind of admitting that that's what he did.

01:27:52.680 And so I don't know out of all of them, I tend to believe the people unless there was

01:28:04.340 a personal relationship with the person.

01:28:07.400 If there's a personal relationship with somebody, then I generally don't.

01:28:11.240 Then I look at it and say, I don't know.

01:28:13.460 However, I don't know.

01:28:16.000 I don't want to defend, but I don't want to condemn.

01:28:18.480 Um, look, I'm actually somewhat similar to where you are, but I want to take this out

01:28:22.780 of the theoretical and put it into the practical, you know, especially for someone like you,

01:28:27.060 Glenn, because none of the stories that have been prominently reported to me make my BS

01:28:31.580 detector, which is pretty finely tuned, go off.

01:28:34.540 Okay.

01:28:34.780 But that doesn't mean they're real.

01:28:36.080 That doesn't, but I'm just saying that none of them are like, wait a minute, there's

01:28:38.740 no way that's true.

01:28:39.820 But, but think about the rules that we're now creating with George Takai being a pretty good

01:28:44.180 example.

01:28:44.540 I mean, what relevance is George Takai in our culture today?

01:28:47.700 I mean, he's not running for anything.

01:28:48.780 He doesn't run a business, but, but let's take a look at these new rules and let's put

01:28:52.520 this in, in the form of you, Glenn.

01:28:54.440 Okay.

01:28:55.100 Cause I actually think that you are maybe the most vulnerable person to a false accusation

01:29:01.500 of sex abuse that I can think of.

01:29:03.180 Let's go through the, let's go through the criteria now that's been created in the last

01:29:06.560 few weeks.

01:29:07.280 Is the person sufficiently famous?

01:29:09.820 Check.

01:29:10.640 Are they not particularly beloved by the masses of the media?

01:29:14.020 Check.

01:29:14.240 Hey, let's not give anybody ideas.

01:29:16.500 Keep building this roadmap.

01:29:17.280 I like it, John.

01:29:17.780 Keep going.

01:29:19.340 Does he claim to be of a high moral character so they can accuse him of hypocrisy?

01:29:23.340 Check.

01:29:24.220 Is he in charge of hiring and firing large groups of people?

01:29:27.420 Check.

01:29:28.460 Has he recently fired a young woman known for her sex appeal?

01:29:31.400 Uh-oh.

01:29:31.780 Check.

01:29:33.180 Is he not attractive enough so that it would be widely believed that any sort of sexual

01:29:37.220 act with an attractive female would therefore have to be consensual?

01:29:40.940 Check.

01:29:41.180 Check.

01:29:41.560 Check.

01:29:41.960 Check.

01:29:42.580 Check.

01:29:42.660 I got it.

01:29:43.540 I got it.

01:29:44.480 I got it.

01:29:44.920 I actually feel like he's guilty right now after that if you're laying it out like

01:29:48.220 that.

01:29:48.680 Now, luckily, luckily, the blaze hasn't recently fired any attractive woman who would be seen

01:29:53.540 as credible by the rest of the news media.

01:29:57.100 So you have that going for you, which is nice.

01:29:58.960 So, you know, that's about the only thing you have in your favor is that woman's lack of

01:30:03.580 credibility.

01:30:04.380 All right.

01:30:05.380 But I think you can see where I'm going with this.

01:30:08.340 Yeah, I can.

01:30:09.120 Any allegation against you would be instantly believed now.

01:30:12.480 And it would be reported.

01:30:13.840 And as soon as it's reported, it's over.

01:30:16.380 I know.

01:30:16.740 It's over.

01:30:17.340 So so here's the here's the amazing thing.

01:30:19.960 Media Matters spent.

01:30:21.880 I mean, it's well documented.

01:30:23.000 They spent over a million dollars to try to discredit me and find something on me.

01:30:29.540 I mean, Cheryl Atkinson outlines it in her own book.

01:30:32.540 Um, and and I remember people going through my garbage.

01:30:37.180 I mean, we knew people were going through my stuff to try to find.

01:30:41.360 We knew private investigators were doing investigations on me.

01:30:45.380 I was clean, so I wasn't worried today.

01:30:48.300 John, it doesn't matter if they have anything.

01:30:51.740 They can completely make it up.

01:30:54.180 And you're right.

01:30:55.160 It's over within the day.

01:30:57.840 And and there's not there's no way to defend yourself now because the forces of political

01:31:02.520 correctness have taken away the very few weapons that anyone would theoretically have.

01:31:08.600 Like, I mean, for instance, you know, when the Harvey Weinstein thing, I think Harvey Weinstein

01:31:12.060 is guilty of just about everything he's been accused of.

01:31:14.900 But, you know, do you remember there was this big controversy because Lisa Bloom wanted to

01:31:19.980 use photo friendly photos of him with his accusers after the fact.

01:31:24.960 Now, if you're not allowed to even use those, if that's taken off the table, if that's

01:31:28.980 verboten, if that's politically incorrect, what is somebody supposed to do?

01:31:33.440 Well, well, look at look at what happened with negative.

01:31:36.020 Look at which with Sean Hannity, what happened with Sean Hannity that I mean, that was not

01:31:39.860 a softball interview.

01:31:40.980 He did ask him tough questions and he's being called a supporter of a child molester and they're

01:31:47.960 trying to pull his advertisement because what he let the man tell his story.

01:31:53.780 I agree that that's, and I'm no fan of Sean, as you know, but I agree that that is a very

01:31:58.420 dangerous precedent.

01:31:59.860 And interestingly, you know, Bill O'Reilly called me yesterday after my column.

01:32:04.300 I haven't spoken to Bill in a decade or almost a decade.

01:32:07.540 And, you know, I've been one of those who has been very suspect of the idea that anyone

01:32:12.780 could pay $32 million on a false story.

01:32:15.080 But as you know, Glenn, and I have to tell you, I mean, you're, you've been, you know,

01:32:18.700 somewhat supportive of Bill and that's made me go, wait a minute, there's got to be

01:32:21.700 something here, there's no question in my mind.

01:32:24.280 There's no question in my mind that Bill believes that he was railroaded a hundred percent.

01:32:29.120 Now, if that's the case, I don't know.

01:32:30.600 I would like to find out more.

01:32:32.180 I think he needs to explain better the $32 million.

01:32:34.520 He says he can't for legal reasons, but, you know, but my mind is now even open to that.

01:32:39.480 I mean, because that's the environment we're living in.

01:32:42.040 Things that would be impossible are actually exceedingly possible.

01:32:46.300 Well, as you guys know, my, my history on the Penn State case, which I'm still investigating

01:32:50.820 and big things might be happening on soon.

01:32:52.780 I mean, these, these things are happening on a constant basis now, and we're setting

01:32:57.640 very, very dangerous precedents and new rules that we are going to rue in very short order.

01:33:04.480 John, where should people go to find you?

01:33:07.480 Freespeechbroadcasting.com is where my podcast is and Mediate is where my columns are.

01:33:11.420 Yeah, really, really, really good.

01:33:13.040 I highly, highly recommend you listen and follow John.

01:33:17.500 He says it, he shoots right from the hip, and you may not like it sometimes, but he

01:33:24.580 shoots right from the hip.

01:33:25.620 Thanks, John.

01:33:26.060 I appreciate it.

01:33:26.920 Thanks, Glenn.

01:33:29.900 It's amazing, because I look at these accusers and I say, ah, they seem pretty credible.

01:33:33.540 But I was thinking of the way that we talked about that.

01:33:35.220 We all said these things.

01:33:36.160 I said, seems pretty credible.

01:33:37.860 He said, my BS detector isn't going off.

01:33:39.820 And you said, I tend to believe the victims.

01:33:42.440 These are not standards that you ruin people's lives over.

01:33:45.760 No, no.

01:33:46.060 And it's, it's impossible to see how we're going to turn back from this.

01:33:50.080 Okay, so there was a, there's a story that came out.

01:33:52.700 Gold coins and bars saw demand rise 17% to 222 tons of gold.

01:34:04.140 17%.

01:34:04.620 You know who was buying them?

01:34:06.920 Russia was one of the big ones.

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01:35:28.340 Glenn Beck.

01:35:40.200 Glenn Beck.

01:35:42.120 This is, I mean, this is a geek, this a geek day for me.

01:35:45.480 This is double geekdom.

01:35:47.620 ELO announced a 10 city North American tour today, which I, I, I will fly to Greenland to

01:35:55.360 see them.

01:35:55.840 Uh, and the only one, the only other person that I feel this way about is Michael Buble.

01:36:02.300 And he's just announced his first concert since his son has been sick.

01:36:06.800 His son had, uh, diagnosed with cancer.

01:36:08.940 Um, and it's been a while since he's performed anywhere.

01:36:11.300 Uh, he will be performing.

01:36:12.580 You'll have to travel a little bit.

01:36:13.880 British summertime in Hyde Park, July, 2018.

01:36:17.460 Uh, only performance in the UK that year.

01:36:20.380 So you got one shot at this.

01:36:22.020 It's coming this, this, this summer.

01:36:24.360 2018, July and July.

01:36:28.820 Well, we might miss that one, but, uh, welcome back.

01:36:32.200 Michael Buble.

01:36:35.820 Glenn Beck.

01:36:42.960 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

01:36:44.800 If you've missed any of the show today, you've missed a lot.

01:36:48.880 You missed Bob Lutz, uh, the former general motors executive, former, uh, vice chairman

01:36:54.180 and head of development at general motors who talks, uh, we spent an hour with him talking

01:36:59.580 about the future, what it means to the audio industry.

01:37:02.620 He says cars are over, uh, in, uh, in the next 15 to 20 years and, uh, you won't own your

01:37:10.960 own car and there won't be automakers like general motors.

01:37:14.460 And, uh, I think he said BMW and Mercedes were specialty car companies that he said they

01:37:22.060 were the smaller car companies that would probably go out of business because they're

01:37:27.680 a specialty line.

01:37:29.440 Pretty amazing.

01:37:30.800 Uh, if you missed it, go check it out at, uh, Glenn Beck.com.

01:37:34.440 Uh, also there's a couple of other things.

01:37:36.600 The, uh, AR chainsaw video that we actually built one on Friday and I took it to the range

01:37:43.180 and it works pretty well.

01:37:44.520 I mean, I want to thank USA today for the chainsaw bayonet idea, uh, but it works pretty

01:37:49.000 well.

01:37:49.260 And you can, you can check that out, uh, at glennbeck.com as well.

01:37:53.680 There's a lot up there, uh, today.

01:37:56.440 Pat Gray joins us now from Unleashed.

01:37:59.240 I'm just finishing up here.

01:38:00.820 What are you ready?

01:38:01.240 Just stay your same sweet self and have a bitchin' summer.

01:38:07.380 Oh, Jesus.

01:38:08.360 Okay.

01:38:09.100 Signing your yearbook?

01:38:10.000 I was over at the malt shop, uh, signing your yearbooks.

01:38:12.960 Really?

01:38:13.460 Oh, wow.

01:38:14.020 Right.

01:38:14.340 Couldn't get them all finished up before I had to come out here.

01:38:16.780 Yeah.

01:38:17.220 Uh, you know, I have to tell you, Pat.

01:38:18.940 Roy was with me and, and, you know, it's a, it's a nice time.

01:38:22.580 Yeah.

01:38:22.960 It's a nice time.

01:38:23.780 Yeah.

01:38:24.280 And, uh, Stu and I were talking earlier today.

01:38:26.680 I can't remember outside of high school.

01:38:28.840 I can't remember the last yearbook I signed.

01:38:32.080 Outside of high school?

01:38:32.980 Outside of high school.

01:38:33.960 I didn't sign that many in high school.

01:38:35.240 I didn't either.

01:38:36.160 I didn't either.

01:38:37.060 Uh, so, yeah, since high school, the grand total is, other than today at the malt shop.

01:38:42.460 Yeah.

01:38:42.780 Carry the one.

01:38:43.580 Carry the one.

01:38:44.340 Oh, yeah, bring that down.

01:38:45.600 None.

01:38:46.360 Zero.

01:38:46.900 Zero.

01:38:47.460 Zero.

01:38:47.740 Yeah.

01:38:48.280 None.

01:38:48.700 Mm.

01:38:49.160 As, as, uh, John Ziegler pointed out, uh, it does not mean you are guilty of rape if

01:38:54.280 you sign a yearbook.

01:38:55.320 Of course not.

01:38:55.800 Uh, however, uh, the fact that he said he had never heard of the restaurant before.

01:39:00.480 That's kind of a problem.

01:39:01.800 Wrote it in the yearbook is a problem.

01:39:03.420 Hey, old hickory restaurant.

01:39:05.900 What's the old hickory restaurant?

01:39:07.540 Never heard of it.

01:39:08.400 Okay.

01:39:08.840 Okay.

01:39:09.060 Three words I heard, I thought of at that time.

01:39:11.180 Had nothing to do with the actual restaurant.

01:39:12.760 Let me play devil's advocate here.

01:39:14.400 I am not sticking up for the guy because I believe, I believe the accusers.

01:39:18.840 I really do.

01:39:20.120 Um, the, but, so I'm not sticking up for him, but let me play devil's advocate here.

01:39:25.300 Uh, that a, the handwriting looks like his, we don't know if it is his, it looks like

01:39:34.520 his.

01:39:35.120 They haven't had an expert yet to my knowledge.

01:39:37.340 Have they?

01:39:37.840 No.

01:39:38.160 That is gone over that.

01:39:39.480 No.

01:39:39.880 Right.

01:39:40.140 Which would make sense.

01:39:41.160 Why aren't you doing that?

01:39:42.060 Yeah.

01:39:42.180 It looks like his.

01:39:43.440 Okay.

01:39:43.800 Let's make sure it is his.

01:39:45.880 Right.

01:39:46.120 And even if it is his, you know, the problem comes in saying, I don't know what old hickory

01:39:51.780 is.

01:39:52.400 I mean, it's not that big of a town, dude.

01:39:54.640 I mean, how did you forget the old hickory restaurant?

01:39:57.480 Um, but he says he doesn't know what it is, but just because he signed it, she's 16 years

01:40:04.120 old.

01:40:04.320 She's working as a waitress.

01:40:06.140 She's in high school.

01:40:07.060 She's got her yearbook there.

01:40:08.460 The DA comes in.

01:40:10.020 He's famous.

01:40:10.840 I want him to sign my yearbook.

01:40:12.560 Hey, you know, Mr.

01:40:13.760 Moore, will you, will you sign my yearbook?

01:40:15.780 Sure.

01:40:16.120 What's your name?

01:40:16.800 Blah, blah, blah.

01:40:17.500 And he writes down old hickory.

01:40:18.780 Cause that's where they met.

01:40:20.940 That's feasible.

01:40:22.320 Oh yeah.

01:40:22.680 That is feasible.

01:40:23.900 It's actually the shadow of a doubt.

01:40:26.480 Now, again, I don't want him in the Senate.

01:40:29.120 I, I, it wasn't for him in the first place, but, uh, uh, you know, I, I would love to have

01:40:34.500 a conservative in the Senate, but I just don't want a guy who is, uh, you know, touching

01:40:40.340 little girls.

01:40:42.780 It doesn't seem like a high hurdle to declare.

01:40:44.980 No, it doesn't.

01:40:45.440 But you know what?

01:40:46.380 In Washington, it's getting, it seems to be, doesn't it?

01:40:49.000 It does seem to be more and more difficult.

01:40:50.520 It really does.

01:40:51.960 I, I, I don't know what to think anymore.

01:40:54.360 I just, uh, I didn't believe it at first.

01:40:57.400 I was kind of thinking, okay, I still can't get past the timing of it.

01:41:03.240 The timing is amazing.

01:41:05.180 I mean, what an amazing coincidence that all of a sudden one month before the special election,

01:41:10.480 all of this starts coming out, well, may I play 40 years, may I play devil's advocate again?

01:41:17.440 If I can play devil's advocate, um, this isn't just come out out of the blue.

01:41:23.460 This is because, uh, Harvey Weinstein, uh, came out and now all of a sudden America is saying, you know, bring out your dad, bring out your dad.

01:41:33.980 And so everybody now is purging.

01:41:36.600 And so it just happens to coincide.

01:41:39.860 There's two ways to look at it.

01:41:41.400 I could convict the guy.

01:41:43.300 And at the same time, I could convince myself there's a reasonable doubt.

01:41:46.980 Let him alone.

01:41:47.920 So I, I don't know what to do.

01:41:49.780 I think a good solution is, is what they're kind of talking about with sessions.

01:41:54.680 Let, you know, right, do a writing campaign with him and put him back in the Senate.

01:41:59.760 Since, since Trump's not happy with him anyway, you know, they're not getting along.

01:42:03.800 There's no way there's going to be a writing campaign.

01:42:05.340 I don't know.

01:42:06.240 I don't know.

01:42:06.640 It's only worked once that I can remember.

01:42:08.720 Elect him and then let the Senate dismiss him and there'll have to be another special election.

01:42:12.940 Look, the, the, the Alabama voters have a right to be able to choose.

01:42:17.980 And I, and we know, yes, yeah.

01:42:20.340 You know, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and, and Ted Cruz and Mike Lee can all come out and say that they don't endorse him anymore.

01:42:25.660 But it really, it's got nothing to do with them.

01:42:27.260 It's if they, the people in Alabama have to choose this.

01:42:29.640 And I just don't like the idea that they're making decisions based on these things.

01:42:34.400 It would be nice if they were just, you know, being able to vote on policy and things like that.

01:42:38.780 But I mean, this is a legit, it's not a throwaway issue if it's true.

01:42:41.500 It's not like you had somebody that was, you know, a hero that just, you know, saved, you know, saved lives at the ballpark just a few months before.

01:42:50.500 And a real conservative that has one of the best audio clips of all time when he told, when MSNBC said, well, it's not like you had that guy to choose from.

01:42:58.640 Exactly. I'm going to actually, I think I'm going to make a, something to post on the internet today of, of, don't blame me.

01:43:04.320 I voted for Mo Brooks.

01:43:05.800 Because I do think that that is a, it's a frustrating part of this because it wasn't like it was establishment versus more and that was it.

01:43:12.640 You had a guy who was a real conservative that has never done anything wrong.

01:43:16.920 That was saving, he was resuscitating people at a mass shooting like two months before the election.

01:43:22.420 And they're still like, ah, no, let's take that other guy.

01:43:25.320 Come on, Alabama.

01:43:27.380 Well, Alabama, I mean, you know, Roy Moore is a hero in Alabama because of, I think Alabama still votes for him.

01:43:33.320 I think he has got a good chance to vote too, honestly.

01:43:35.020 Based on the people I've talked to from Alabama, this makes some of them more likely to vote for him.

01:43:39.840 Because they see it as an outman.

01:43:40.840 Because it's kind of a, it's kind of an in your face.

01:43:42.780 It's like a Donald Trump thing.

01:43:45.080 The media is trying to sway this election.

01:43:47.960 And so they're going against the tide.

01:43:49.540 Someone pointed out, I think it was on one of the news channels yesterday, that it would have probably been more likely to sink him in this campaign if it came from a local paper.

01:44:00.060 The idea that it comes from the Washington Post just feels like this out, like attack from our country, there's coming after our guy.

01:44:06.600 Did you see the reporters, the local reporters that talked about that?

01:44:09.800 They're pissed at themselves because they all said, we've known this forever.

01:44:14.380 I mean, this is a well-known thing.

01:44:17.600 A well-known thing.

01:44:18.760 Which is bad.

01:44:19.880 Yeah.

01:44:20.340 It's bad.

01:44:21.280 And they've said, but nobody ever talked about it.

01:44:24.560 Everybody knew about it, so it wasn't really news.

01:44:27.420 And it took, you know, the Washington Post to come down because it was new to them.

01:44:32.140 And we were like, oh, crap.

01:44:33.200 We should have done that.

01:44:34.320 Now, are they saying it was well-known that the guy dated young girls?

01:44:37.340 Yes.

01:44:37.800 Or well-known that he did, you know, he dated 14-year-olds?

01:44:41.000 No, that he was dating very young.

01:44:43.140 Yeah.

01:44:43.560 And yet again, that is the line here.

01:44:45.220 I mean, the accuser that came out yesterday accused him of more of an assault.

01:44:49.100 Attempted rape.

01:44:49.780 Right.

01:44:50.100 An actual assault, which is a different line.

01:44:52.180 But the first story, and again, because it's Gloria Allred, I have no idea whether to put any stock into this person.

01:44:58.360 And, you know, it's just because she just automatically taints anything she's involved in.

01:45:03.880 Which is, I don't know why you go to her.

01:45:05.720 She's the white Al Sharpton.

01:45:07.780 Yeah.

01:45:08.340 It's because you just don't trust anything that comes out of coming from that camp.

01:45:11.720 I don't know why you go that direction.

01:45:13.260 She stands next to her, just like Al Sharpton, stands next to a, quote, victim.

01:45:18.020 And Gloria Allred, the same way, stands next to a, quote, victim.

01:45:20.800 And you automatically go, well, I don't think I believe them.

01:45:24.360 Just because of her.

01:45:25.420 She hurts the victim.

01:45:26.600 Because, I mean, everyone can, you can relate to someone who felt like it was tough to come out.

01:45:32.080 You can feel, you can relate to someone who went through a terrible tragedy.

01:45:35.480 I can't relate to someone who thinks the best way to handle that is to go to Gloria Allred.

01:45:39.580 It's such an impossible hurdle for me to clear, to use that phrase again.

01:45:43.540 It's just like, you have, you're in the worst situation of your life.

01:45:46.560 You're trying to explain something.

01:45:47.660 You're going in the national stage and you go to this person who has been so shady and, in my mind, discredited

01:45:55.920 over a long period of time.

01:45:57.520 It just seems like such a crazy step to take.

01:46:00.400 Yeah.

01:46:00.800 Do you believe her?

01:46:01.880 Not Gloria Allred.

01:46:02.840 Do you believe the, uh...

01:46:04.420 This latest one didn't seem believable to me.

01:46:07.540 I, I...

01:46:08.420 How much of that is Gloria Allred?

01:46:09.780 A lot.

01:46:10.500 I think a lot.

01:46:11.280 Yeah.

01:46:11.440 And it reminded me the whole time I was thinking of the Duke lacrosse team with Al Sharpton.

01:46:16.320 It was the same sort of scenario.

01:46:18.840 See, it's, it's the Gloria Allred thing.

01:46:21.100 Because I tried, I immediately dismissed her and then I, I went back and I was like, okay,

01:46:25.440 watch her with a hand over Gloria Allred sitting right next to her.

01:46:29.260 And, and it reminded me of the Juanita Broderick, uh, interviews.

01:46:33.920 Mm-hmm.

01:46:34.340 And I believe Juanita.

01:46:36.060 Yeah.

01:46:36.520 I believe her 100%.

01:46:38.320 And it's amazing how little attention, uh, that case has received.

01:46:44.520 I mean, you, you pointed this out earlier, Glenn.

01:46:46.000 If they come out and start hammering Bill Clinton and take down Bill Clinton from these allegations,

01:46:50.320 multiple allegations over many years, then you'll start to take them seriously.

01:46:53.400 Yeah.

01:46:53.860 I won't take the left seriously until they go after Bill Clinton.

01:46:56.820 When they say, you know what, what we did to Gloria, what we did to, uh, Juanita Broderick

01:47:02.080 and, and Paula Jones, uh, Kathleen Willey, Kathleen Willey, all of those people that were

01:47:07.700 very credit, very credible.

01:47:09.880 And what we did to them by dismissing them and playing politics, we're going to believe

01:47:16.440 them.

01:47:17.140 Then, then they have something.

01:47:19.320 Then I, then I'm like, okay, all right, they're serious until they do that.

01:47:23.860 They have no credibility, none, zero.

01:47:28.440 And you're starting to see a little bit of that now.

01:47:30.500 I mean, during the campaign, during Hillary's campaign, Buzzfeed had an extensive profile of

01:47:36.100 Juanita Broderick, where, which was, I would say very favorable to her and her story.

01:47:40.260 She is so credible.

01:47:42.460 She is so credible.

01:47:43.900 She's the most, I remember seeing her on 60 minutes back in the nineties.

01:47:47.560 And I remember watching that going, okay, I don't know about Paula Jones.

01:47:51.280 I mean, it seems credible, blah, blah, blah, but Juanita absolutely credible.

01:47:55.940 And she is, she's more dangerous for the Clintons because remember her charges, she was having

01:48:02.880 an affair with him or no, she, she was raped by him.

01:48:06.760 She was raped by him.

01:48:08.540 And then Hillary came up and said, what you, what you've done with my husband, I know what's

01:48:17.660 happened with my husband or something like this.

01:48:19.400 And, and I just want you to know how to fundraise her.

01:48:21.880 She did this, how important you are to me.

01:48:24.340 And she said it was so creepy and evil.

01:48:28.160 She couldn't take it when they take Juanita Broderick seriously.

01:48:34.220 That's when you will be able to say, okay, let's talk about other people now, but until

01:48:39.980 you take on your own.

01:48:41.260 And it's the same with us.

01:48:42.380 If we don't take people seriously with Trump, with, uh, Roy Moore or anybody else, and that

01:48:51.960 doesn't mean condemn them.

01:48:53.360 That means listen to that.

01:48:55.320 Do not just say it's a political game and then use your common sense.

01:49:00.840 Is this true?

01:49:01.960 Is this not, I don't want to condemn anybody.

01:49:05.540 I also don't want to, uh, I don't want to support them because I don't know.

01:49:11.340 I don't know, uh, Pat, you, you didn't sign that last year.

01:49:15.160 I have a itching summer.

01:49:17.820 You did that the last time.

01:49:19.160 Class of 18.

01:49:21.780 Okay.

01:49:23.500 18.

01:49:24.060 You didn't finish the rest.

01:49:25.180 78, 18, 78.

01:49:26.760 Oh yeah.

01:49:27.300 That's right.

01:49:28.040 Thank you very much.

01:49:28.860 It's an old yearbook.

01:49:29.760 Yeah.

01:49:31.040 He's got old fans.

01:49:31.920 He is.

01:49:32.480 I guess so.

01:49:33.000 Pat Gray.

01:49:33.800 Unleashed.

01:49:34.280 Who hangs out at the malt shop?

01:49:38.040 I don't know, but a malt sounds freaking delicious.

01:49:40.220 Ever since he's said that, that's all I've thought about.

01:49:42.500 That's because I'm overweight.

01:49:45.420 Uh, Pat Gray Unleashed is coming up on the Blaze Radio and TV network.

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01:52:00.020 Right.

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01:52:03.440 No, I, uh, obviously I will be selecting the writing entry.

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01:52:54.640 You don't have to be a president to win.

01:52:56.340 You can, there's stuff for auction that you can buy, including, I think they were probably

01:53:00.600 not up yet, but the, uh, paintings that I just did, I just finished.

01:53:04.600 I brought them in.

01:53:05.140 It's there.

01:53:05.600 The three, the, um, really cool.

01:53:08.080 The three people that brought the Berlin wall down, Margaret Thatcher, Pope John Paul

01:53:12.020 and Ronald Reagan.

01:53:14.000 Uh, and, uh, you can bid on those.

01:53:16.480 You can come and attend the ball, which is Saturday and Aaron Watson's going to be performing.

01:53:21.000 It's going to be great time.

01:53:22.120 And we have a big announcement that we're making on Saturday.

01:53:25.200 And obviously as part of the rules committee, I will be there as well.

01:53:27.540 No, no, you, you will be there, but you're not part of the rules committee.

01:53:31.400 That's mercury one.org slash M one ball.

01:53:34.480 Uh, we'll see you tonight at five o'clock part two of our, uh, of our series on Antifa.

01:53:39.580 What do they really stand for?

01:53:41.700 Don't miss it.

01:53:42.580 Glenn Beck.

01:53:43.920 We'll see you next time.

The Glenn Beck Program - November 14, 2017

11⧸14⧸17 - 'Driving' to extinction ( Bob Lutz & John Ziegler join Glenn)

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