11⧸15⧸17 - Priorities Off Kilter? (Steve Dease and Johnnie Moore join Glenn)
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 53 minutes
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154.20018
Summary
Glenn Beck is back with a new segment called The Martyr's Oath, featuring Johnny Moore of the Nazarene Fund. He talks about what it means to be a Christian in the Middle East and how they view their faith differently than we do here in America. Glenn also talks about a new CNN report on the ongoing slave trade in Libya.
Transcript
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Susan had a decision to make. It's a decision that millions of Americans are making.
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She could buy health care for her and her husband or not.
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It was a difficult decision because both options would hurt them financially.
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She calculated she would have to spend more than $12,000, including premiums of nearly $500 a month and a $6,850 deductible,
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to get anything beyond preventive benefits from the cheapest exchange plan available through the, quote, affordable CARE Act.
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That was a great deal more than paying the $1,500 tax penalty.
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So Susan decided to take her chance and not buy health care.
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Instead, she would pay for her family's doctor's visits out of pocket.
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And if something catastrophic were to happen, she said, I feel like it's just better to die.
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Welcome to the beautiful health care designed by our government.
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Maybe a little dramatic, but Susan's situation is not unique.
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In 2016, 6.5 million of us here in this country, in order to comply with the individual mandate in Obamacare,
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decided just to pay the penalty instead of buying health care.
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The individual mandate has been unconstitutional.
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But today, there is hope that we can forget this whole mandate fever dream for good.
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The Senate Republicans have added the repeal of the individual mandate to their tax reform plan,
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Here's the one rule of thumb they really need to know.
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Stopping unconstitutional laws and not starting new unconstitutional laws.
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Pretty good rule of thumb for this administration.
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Johnny Moore is going to be here talking about the martyr's oath.
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How people look at their faith differently over in the Middle East.
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And they have a much different view of what it means to be a Christian than I think we do here in America.
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Also, we want to welcome CNN to the bandwagon, who is finally looking into slavery in the Middle East that is ongoing today.
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They just started a report on what they're finding in Libya, that the slave trade is still going on.
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And it's not just Libya, CNN, but we appreciate the fact that you are on board.
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Something that we have been talking about for a while with the Nazarene Fund.
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But at least someone is reporting on the slave trade.
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It's kind of, it's amazing when you see this story from CNN.
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After months of working, we were able to verify the authenticity of what you see here.
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We decided to travel to Libya to try and see for ourselves.
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So at least someone is bringing attention to this.
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But this is not the, this is not even the worst slave trade that's going on in the Middle East.
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But we, we look at this, and then you look at what American television is claiming as news today.
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And you kind of think, you know, we might have our priorities a little screwed up.
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And the rest of them are kind of just annoyances.
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I woke up this morning to see that my iPhone 10 is supposed to arrive today.
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And I was, I got really frustrated because when I clicked on the track your shipment link.
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I'm surprised you even showed up for work today.
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It was, I almost burned the whole house down in protest.
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You can watch the video of that slave block in crystal clear video on the iPhone 10.
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And it really, the data comes through really cleanly.
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So you got to make sure you get that case on there right away.
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So let me, let me take another story that is, that is really huge in its consequence, but
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nobody really seems to be addressing it in the proper way.
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Now, if you're a, you know, a listener of this program, you know that Sean and I have a hot
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We're not, you know, we're not in lockstep on everything.
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Nobody should be shutting people's points of view down.
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Now, can you get people to listen to it or watch it?
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That's never been good enough for media matters and media matters has a very well-documented
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now, thanks to Cheryl Atkinson hit squad where they go out and they'll spend millions of
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dollars and they will destroy people and it's what they tried to do to me.
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Now they're doing it to Sean Hannity and this is like the fifth bite at the Sean Hannity
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But here's why this one is incredibly dangerous.
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Right now they are saying that Sean Hannity is supporting a pedophile.
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And he is giving airtime to pedophiles and and he shouldn't do that and we should shut that
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So they are asking for a boycott of Sean Hannity because he's supporting pedophiles.
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That is the fact that he had Roy Moore on his show Friday to answer the charge of you've
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Sean was widely admired for this for this interview.
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Credible journalists on the left said they couldn't believe it that he held his feet to
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This wasn't a typical Sean Hannity, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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He asked him tough questions and didn't let him squirm out of it.
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Yesterday he said, you know, some things are not adding up here, judge, and you've got to
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What Media Matters is suggesting is that someone can be accused of something.
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And the media should not put them on the air so they have the opportunity to, quite honestly,
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So what Media Matters and what some now in the media are cheering because they just want
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Sean Hannity to go away, what they're cheering is a system to where we cannot answer a charge.
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That somebody can charge you with something, not even legally, just just throw out a charge,
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And you're not allowed on the media to be able to make your case.
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This is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen.
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I've seen a lot of really bad stuff with the media.
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And I've seen some really bad trends and we are headed for disaster.
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But if the media doesn't wake up and put their personal views aside and say, look, I don't
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like Sean Hannity, I don't like Fox News, whatever it is, but this has got to stop.
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If they don't say this now, first they came for the trade unions, but I wasn't a member
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First they came for somebody who was just trying to clear their name in the press.
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Whether you believe Roy Moore or not, doesn't matter.
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I don't think that, I mean, I wouldn't have voted for him and I don't believe him.
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However, he has a right to state his case and he has a right to do it on the most credible
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news network and the most credible news organizations.
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Why should he be, why should he be relegated only to Fox News?
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And why should he be, why should he be relegated?
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Let's say you reverse that and say, well, we would just want to get rid of Fox News because
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Have you ever seen the way people who believe in conservative things are treated by the left
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You have to be able to make your case in front of an MSNBC and in front of a Fox.
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I don't agree with the president and I didn't agree with the last president when the last
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president would only go to YouTubers and have somebody who was, you know, in a, in a bathtub
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I want real journalists and I want somebody from CNN and I want somebody from Fox to interview
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What happened to John F. Kennedy in a speech he gave in the 1960s where he was, he was eviscerating
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Don't, don't feed the public what you think they want to hear.
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Can you imagine a president saying that today and actually meaning it and actually meaning
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And can you imagine a press that had enough honor in them that they would and they wouldn't
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take that as an invitation to grind their acts?
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We either believe in a few simple truths that used to be self-evident and I fear they are
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We either believe that somebody is innocent until proven guilty or we don't.
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We either believe that there is freedom of press and freedom of speech or we believe in mob
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If you don't think that we're already at biggest bully wins.
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And the American people wanted somebody to say shut up and sit down.
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Do you want to continue with a press who is going to then get stronger and stronger because
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of special interests and they will tell and be cheered by the left?
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They will tell somebody else on the other side, shut up and sit down because I have news
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The reason why I had a real problem with the bully politics of Donald Trump is a it's not
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But B, as I said with Barack Obama, you don't want to do these things, guys, because you don't
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You don't know what the next president will be like.
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To beat Donald Trump, you're going to need a bigger bully.
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When are we going to start talking common sense to one another?
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When are people going to start standing up for principle?
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And I mean, I mean this on the left and the right.
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When are you going to stop cheering media matters because, you know, if somebody was doing
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it to you on the other side, you wouldn't be able to handle it.
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You would be you would be calling them the worst names ever, and they would deserve it.
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These tactics are fascistic, and they are leading to a fascistic world and a fascistic media.
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And the left and the right have their right to be able to be heard themselves.
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Steve Dace is coming up on the other side of the break in just a few minutes.
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He's a friend of Roy Moore, and he says we're looking at this all wrong, and I want to hear
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his opinion and hear him out, so we'll talk to him coming up in just a second.
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Yeah, I think he's struggling with it, too, but he's holding more at the moment.
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We talked about that a little bit, and right now, because that's going to be in this tax
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plan, the media is kind of bashing it and saying one of the big headlines of that is
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There's a million things wrong with that stat, including, obviously, it's a 2027 number.
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Obviously, I think on its face, it's ridiculous that 13 million people would drop their insurance
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because this penalty went away, but even if you take it all into account and take it all
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serious in a serious manner, you look at the actual report they're talking about from the
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If eliminating the mandate was accompanied by changes to tax rates or premium tax credits,
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Steve, Steve Dace is a friend of mine and one of the very few.
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I mean, if I'm in a battle and I need somebody to watch my back and I need to know where they
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stand and they're never going to change, it's Ben Shapiro and Steve Dace and probably Mark
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So it's a it's a small, very small band of rebels, but it's I know where they stand.
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Steve, I have a lot of respect for because he is not he doesn't jump on bandwagons.
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And when he says, wait a minute, I need to I need to think this out with you.
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And Steve came out with a really good editorial yesterday and said, wait a minute.
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And I wanted him to come on and talk to us about it.
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So I think you are in the same position that I am in with Bill O'Reilly.
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I have talked to him about these things personally.
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And I have a long I have long experience with Bill.
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And it puts me in a very uncomfortable and unpopular situation.
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I think that's a good analogy, you know, not knowing the depth of your relationship with
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Bill, but obviously you guys as former peers and co-workers.
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And when you look at, you know, I've gotten emails from people, I'm sure you have, you
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I mean, if it's not Glenn Beck, ask Glenn Beck, you know?
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But I think when you look at the situation with O'Reilly, whether people agree with what
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you're doing or not, you have a lot bigger platform than he does.
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You don't need him to come on and grow your audience.
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Similarly, most people didn't know who in the Sam Hill Roy Moore was until about a month
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So I don't need Roy Moore to grow my platform or anything of that nature.
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I have no vested interest in this other than I just want to make sure that we're not breaking
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And if we're not, and justice must be done, it will break my heart that essentially I elevated
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if these allegations are proven true, a sociopath.
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Because that's really what we're describing, Glenn.
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We're really saying that this guy got admitted to West Point, which is 1% of the 1%, graduated,
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The immediate aftermath of that, while getting to be the DA of Etowah County, was a sociopath,
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child predator, did this for this period of time, got married, and then for the last 33
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years, he didn't even remove the mattress tags off of his box springs.
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And if the allegations prove true that he's essentially a sociopath, I will buy into that.
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And I will apologize profusely to everyone in America I recommend it to, believe me.
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And I'll accept all the consequences to what that will do to my own credibility.
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But since it's possible, it's true, which therefore means that I have, you know, clearly
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questionable judgment here in elevating him, then I think maybe it's prudent for me to pause
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Because there are some things about this that just don't add up.
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It doesn't add up that at the time he's being investigated by the state bar, no one comes
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forward to say, hey, that's the creeper dude from the local mall.
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No, that's Matthew McConaughey from Dazed and Confused.
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And then a few years later, when he runs for circuit judge, he's the first Republican to
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win in that county since before the Civil War, and he gets a super majority of the vote.
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Two months ago, he won that county by 14 points in a primary.
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You know, if you go back to the original Ten Commandments fight, Richard Land, Jay Sekulow,
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these were men that were dispatched by the Bush administration to go down to Alabama and
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organize the churches there not to come out and defend Roy Moore and to get rid of him
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because the Bush administration viewed him as a distraction.
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Don't you think if they had this kill shot, they would have used it?
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You also want me to believe Mitch McConnell spent $30 million to go after, to win this
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primary, and all he had to do was walk to the Gadsden County Mall and just start interviewing,
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you know, the food court workers and the floodgates opened.
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But I just think before we take a man's life and destroy it, before we take his family and
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destroy it, I just think we ought to make damn sure that it is.
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I mean, I find myself in the most uncomfortable position because when it comes to Bill, I feel
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Nobody knows what really happened in somebody's personal life.
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I can just tell you what I do know and what I do feel.
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But if it turns out that it's, you know, the opposite, I'm going to feel horrible.
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I mean, I question myself on this all the time, and it's uncomfortable.
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At the same time, we're on the air every day with all of these allegations, and I have yet
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to call for somebody to be fired or to be destroyed because I don't know.
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I mean, I can tell you that Harvey Weinstein looks really good.
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When you've got 300 people, that looks really bad.
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I can tell you that I wouldn't want my kids around him.
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I wouldn't want to do business with him, you know, but the rest of that needs to have,
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you know, some system, you know, like our judicial system, to prove that they're guilty.
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And we're sitting here on the air judging people and telling people what to believe.
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That's, pardon me, the interruption, by the way, I'm glad you brought up Harvey Weinstein,
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because again, we're not talking even about a predator, or we're not even talking about
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a womanizer, you know, like Matt Damon and George Clooney came out later and said, well,
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Well, frankly, it's not a big leap from womanizer in Hollywood to a guy that uses his power leverage
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I mean, that's just a, that's like adding a predicate, an extra predicate to a sentence
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Here you're telling me, you're telling me that a guy that married a single mom at a
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Bible study, adopted her daughter, has been married to him for 33 years, and has no other
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You know, look with Bill Clinton, you had systemic immorality that you could see was the
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And it went on for decades, well into his presidency.
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How many people act this way, have these sorts of urges that are almost uncontrollable and
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They act on them for a brief period of time, and then they totally go away, and then they
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never, ever come up again, and they marry, and they have the same wife and the same kids
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for 33 years, and they're not even accused of a bench warrant for not paying a parking
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So here is the only thing that keeps coming to my mind, is I do know people who are very
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religious, who are legalistic, who will look at the letter of the law.
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It's why when he says, I never bought anyone a drink under 18, he's crystal clear on that.
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I never did this with somebody who was, you know, 14 or 15.
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I mean, he is the letter of the law, so I don't have a hard time believing that he was
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dating 16, 17, and 18-year-olds, which I find distasteful, but not illegal.
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I do have a hard time believing the rape or the 14-year-old.
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It doesn't, I could be swayed off of that easily, I have no idea, but I think it's because
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He has made his sharp black lines, and he leaves it at that.
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I think that, I think, I think right now, a lot of things are possible.
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Either this guy is the greatest liar, and Glenn, I've been a, if you've been a conservative
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activist in the Republican Party for an hour, you've been lied to by the best, okay?
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I've had men your audience knows household names look me in the eye in my own home and
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So, this guy's better than any of them, and that is just something I don't even want to
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contemplate, and I don't want to contemplate the alternative either, which is, frankly,
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you know, this is a demonic takedown of a man, unlike anything I've ever seen in politics.
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I think that's why so many people are sickened by it, because there isn't a middle, we love
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our middle grounds, we love to find, we love to break in the night before Starfleet Academy
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and reprogram the Kobayashi Maru we don't like, no-win scenarios, but this one is, this guy
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is one of the worst sociopaths in modern American politics, or this is one of the most demonic
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takedowns of a man we've ever witnessed before, and that's not a good conclusion, no matter
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Talking to Steve Dace, and I think if you're listening to this, you get the sense, and
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I think this was important, that this is not a partisan Breitbart-level defense of Roy
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Moore, this is a, I think, a nuanced, thoughtful defense of Moore, and I think it's important
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Steve, you make a lot of really good points on a sort of circumstantial case, but, you know,
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there are people that have dark things in their history, these things are possible.
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Were you satisfied by the defense he has presented, including the Sean Hannity interview, his public
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I think some of those things have caused me pause that if I were a defender, I don't know
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that I would be happy with the way he's talked about it since the accusations came out.
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I have not monitored these things on a regular basis, and the reason why is because I know
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him, and so I know that he is not a great communicator.
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He has an odd persona in that normally the man that is the person, the staunch line person
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that Glenn just described, normally is a powerful orator and a powerful personality.
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If you go back and watch the one-on-one debate he had with Luther Strange, he's actually pretty
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He wouldn't be a good talk show host, for example.
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I mean, the reason why he memorized the Constitution, the Declaration of the Independence is because
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So I think for people that are getting their first look at him on a personality basis, I
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would caution them, just as someone that's been around him a lot in a private setting,
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not to read too much into that, yay or nay, because that's just not what he's good at.
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He's never going to, if he got elected, he'd never dazzle you on meet the press or anything
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Yeah, as I wrote in my piece, I did not go after him for a reaction because I wanted to
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examine things without being tainted by a personal relationship.
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And I didn't write this, but I'll tell you guys this.
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I frankly wanted to see if he would come to me, and he did, and he did call me a few
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And again, if he's lying, it's the greatest liar I've ever encountered.
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But I was actually more impressed with the wife.
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You know, one of the things I've seen in my career is I always tell people when I'm vetting
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candidates or you are, always check the spouse, male or female, always check the spouse.
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They've seen them when their knickers are down figuratively and literally.
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And if the wife and kids are not involved, if they're silent, okay, particularly when
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their man or woman is in battle, that's always a bad, I can't think of a time in my career
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Tammy Wynette, fire up the stand by your man as defiant as you can possibly yet.
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That's why I go to look at this period of time.
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Where is all the, so you're telling me, you're telling me he essentially what, he was a sexual
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predator, a sociopath from 1975 to about 1982 and then just shut it down and went on with
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And so, so Steve, will you give me, will you give me this, that it is, it's feasible that
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And it was legal to date a 16, 17 and 18 year old.
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He was a gentleman with the ladies and, you know, the, the children, I think, but legal.
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He always asked the mom and he was always a gentleman when they wanted to go home, they
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And the charges of the 14 year old and the rape are wrong.
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I think I have tried not to get it with alternative theories.
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But do I think in the South, particularly in that time period, women lined their daughters
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up with a man that just got out of West Point as early as possible.
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We are living at a time of great martyrs, and the world isn't even taking note.
00:37:18.460
CNN started, uh, uh, investigation on slavery in the Middle East, and they were shocked and
00:37:26.580
It's been going on for a long, long, long, long, long time, and it's really bad, uh, with
00:37:33.580
Johnny Moore, um, has met these people firsthand.
00:37:48.460
So, how many more hits can Roy Moore, uh, absorb before he drops out of the Senate race?
00:38:00.780
Last night, the RNC withdrew its financial support of Moore's campaign.
00:38:06.540
Also, yesterday, Paul Ryan called for Moore to withdraw from the race, and Mitch McConnell
00:38:11.880
said, if he was elected, Moore would face an immediate ethics committee investigation.
00:38:18.020
Now, I was surprised that the Senate still had one of those, but apparently they do.
00:38:24.020
Moore tweeted that the, quote, fight has just begun, end quote, and that McConnell's
00:38:36.400
Moore's wife, Kayla, has been using Facebook to try to defend her man.
00:38:39.780
She shared her story yesterday, claiming the old Hickory restaurant, where one of the alleged
00:38:44.460
sexual assaults by Roy took place, didn't even exist.
00:38:48.380
A few minutes of research in an old-fashioned establishment called the Town Library, however,
00:38:54.520
confirmed that the restaurant, in fact, did exist.
00:38:58.520
Mrs. Moore also shared, uh, a letter signed by 53 pastors urging people to vote, to vote for
00:39:05.420
The letter praises Moore for things like his immovable convictions for biblical principles.
00:39:15.300
The letter was written in August, and Mrs. Moore's repost left out the date, implying that
00:39:24.040
So far, three pastors have said, could you please remove my name from that list?
00:39:28.780
Despite the circus, Moore still leads his Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, by six points.
00:39:35.620
The fact that Moore is still ahead tells us exactly what's wrong with our politics.
00:39:41.140
And it's not that Moore is guilty, yet still in the race.
00:39:45.700
It's because we don't know that he's guilty, for a fact.
00:39:49.820
We believe these women's stories, but we don't know for certain that he did these things.
00:39:55.320
Our problem is a total lack of consistency on the left and the right.
00:40:02.180
Listen to what Jake Tapper said about this on CNN.
00:40:05.780
The accusers of Bill Clinton back in the 90s were never given the credence and treated with
00:40:13.500
the same respect that these women are being treated.
00:40:15.920
And I think that there is something to be said about how society has evolved since then.
00:40:21.660
But in addition, it's hard not to look back at that period and think, you know what?
00:40:34.740
Is this a parallel universe, or did I just hear a journalist actually speak the truth?
00:40:42.480
Was it that hard for someone on the left to admit this?
00:40:50.300
In the 1990s, Bill Clinton's accusers described events that had happened within the previous
00:40:56.820
Roy Moore's accusers are talking about things that happened 40 years ago.
00:41:01.180
Why then have the Moore allegations received nearly an instant acceptance, even though the
00:41:08.760
Again, I find the Moore accusers believable, and I don't think the Facebook post from his
00:41:16.620
wife is helping, but we have to be consistent on both sides of the aisle.
00:41:22.500
As I said yesterday, the minute the left decides, you know what?
00:41:27.160
Bill Clinton is a predator, and they say it out loud, and they distance themselves from the
00:41:36.640
But if we don't become consistent, we're lying.
00:41:44.260
We're lying to each other, and no one will have any credibility.
00:42:00.720
Johnny Moore, good friend of the program, and the author of the book, The Martyr's Oath, joins
00:42:11.520
He is the guy who provided the inspiration to start the Nazarene Fund, and we welcome him
00:42:24.040
So, I don't know if you saw this on CNN yesterday, but CNN is starting a series now.
00:42:31.260
They've been doing an investigation for a year, and they found out that slaves are still being
00:42:46.140
But I'm hoping that they will find the enormity of the problem soon, that it's not just happening
00:42:58.040
Yeah, I know that the situation has changed, but it hasn't improved.
00:43:02.640
You know, ISIS taught these terrorists all around the world in different places new brutality,
00:43:10.620
It's not what we were seeing, you know, the beheading of Christians on live television.
00:43:15.340
Now it's back in the shadows, but in Nigeria alone, you know, Boko Haram, which pledged
00:43:19.920
its allegiance to ISIS, I mean, they killed more Christians last year than ISIS did in
00:43:24.440
I mean, this is still a very, very intense, intense situation, not to mention, you know,
00:43:28.620
these communities still need to be rebuilt, you know, and Glenn, I got to tell you, I mean,
00:43:32.440
I was thinking really, really small until I got on your radio program, you know, and because
00:43:36.780
of the Nazarene Fund and your vision and your voice, I mean, a lot of people were helped,
00:43:43.440
So, Johnny, you went over, and this is kind of what your book is about, you went over with
00:43:47.580
kind of a comfortable Christian attitude, an American Christian attitude, and you met
00:43:54.520
these people who are living, we are seeing first century kind of persecution of Christians.
00:44:03.300
They are now the most persecuted people on earth, and nobody is, nobody's even talking
00:44:08.880
about it, and you saw it firsthand, and it kind of shook you to your core, did it not?
00:44:23.400
I mean, I could not not have a good answer to this question.
00:44:26.960
You know, what was I doing when this was happening in history?
00:44:29.540
And, you know, with this latest book, The Martyrs' Oath, you know, we went around to 30 different
00:44:34.280
countries, sent research teams everywhere to document the firsthand accounts of persecution,
00:44:38.460
and I was even surprised at what was happening in countries I barely knew anything about.
00:44:42.660
You know, and then, Glenn, we have allies like Turkey.
00:44:45.620
You know, Turkey is a country where last year, you know, the Directorate of Religious Affairs
00:44:53.320
The Hagia Sophia was for a thousand years the most important church in Christianity, and
00:44:58.280
it has been a museum since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, but last year, Turkey, you
00:45:02.660
know, under the nose of the whole world, appointed an imam to supervise one of history's most famous
00:45:09.220
They also confiscated 50 Christian holy sites, and so it's not just about the imprisonment
00:45:13.980
and beheading and the torture and all these things, you know, the thousands of people
00:45:18.380
Countries like North Korea where 70,000 Christians are in prison.
00:45:21.160
You know, it's also this subtle discrimination and prioritization and supremacy of Islam that's
00:45:27.380
erupting, you know, all around the world, and we have to keep pressure on people.
00:45:31.680
We have to keep telling these stories, and we've got to help them, too.
00:45:33.940
Tell me the stories that you found in your research.
00:45:42.040
I mean, I met a family that had fled Syria, you know, when I was in a neighboring country.
00:45:47.580
You know, they were sitting across the table from me.
00:45:49.560
They had converted to Christianity, and because of it, their jihadist relatives in Syria were
00:45:57.140
They sent them a letter, and the letter literally said, we know where you are, we're going to
00:46:02.600
come find you, and we're going to crucify you like you're Jesus.
00:46:07.380
And, you know, my jaw was on the floor already, but then they told me what they did.
00:46:14.020
They wrote the jihadist relative back, and the letter they said, said, please, please
00:46:21.240
You know, we're ready to die for our Jesus, but please don't crucify us.
00:46:29.780
And I just couldn't, I just didn't know a faith like that.
00:46:34.520
But I don't see it in our real world, and, you know, I found that as much as we've helped
00:46:39.300
these people, and you know this more than anyone, Glenn, I mean, you know, this audience
00:46:42.900
saved the lives of thousands and thousands and thousands of Christians, but as much as
00:46:47.320
we try to help these people, I find that they help us.
00:46:52.260
You know, they show us how to live because of their willingness to die.
00:46:55.620
So what causes that, or what have we lost, Johnny, to where?
00:47:02.240
Because I can't imagine, I don't know a single Christian that I think would sit down with
00:47:09.760
the family and say, let's write them back and say, please, just don't crucify us like
00:47:15.400
Just you can crucify us upside down, but we're willing to do that.
00:47:22.580
I don't know a single person here in the United States that could sit down with a family and
00:47:36.500
You know, and I don't know that I could say it, and it causes me to look inside of my own
00:47:40.500
I mean, you know, in my reading of the Bible, I mean, you see a lot of this, right?
00:47:45.320
I mean, the New Testament is all about persecuted people.
00:47:47.620
They're either being persecuted, or they're helping those who are being persecuted.
00:47:53.580
And I'm just convinced that we cannot have a real faith life unless we're close to people
00:48:01.840
And this is the most subtle thing, because it gets at our character, and we don't even
00:48:07.740
You know, but it changes us, and it changes us in profound ways.
00:48:10.640
We don't care about truth anymore, because truth doesn't cost us anything.
00:48:14.900
You know, we don't forgive our political opponents, much less our enemies, you know,
00:48:20.240
And yet the Coptic church, you know, which has endured terrible persecution in the last
00:48:24.320
six months, multiple suicide bombings, a bus of children massacred, you know, and yet
00:48:30.000
the Coptic pastors all across Egypt publicly said that they forgive the terrorists that killed
00:48:36.360
I mean, it's like crazy until you read the Bible, and then it's like ever-present.
00:48:42.740
You know, it's to keep nations secure, and there's a role for the church and for people
00:48:46.800
of faith, and that is by our compassion, by our service, by our testimony, we cause
00:48:53.600
less problems in the world for governments to solve.
00:48:59.800
And our persecuted brothers and sisters, I mean, they just have a faith we need to learn
00:49:04.300
You know, Boko Haram went after this mom that we interviewed, and they were trying to behead
00:49:07.800
her after they beheaded her husband and her children, and they were demanding that she
00:49:12.860
They were trying to convert her on the spot, probably to make her one of their wives.
00:49:17.960
She said to us, with a raspy voice, because she nearly died, she said, every time they
00:49:24.260
demanded that I say, Allahu Akbar, I looked back over my shoulder at them, and I screamed,
00:49:34.180
And I think a lot of us sort of, you know, we have a fake faith sometimes.
00:49:42.220
I will say, though, my iPhone X has not been delivered yet.
00:49:44.900
I mean, it's been delayed, and I'm very upset about it.
00:49:49.880
So, Johnny, you know, I can't even get to the beheading part and see that kind of faith.
00:49:58.640
I am struggling now with faith, not my faith, but with religion and religionists, that we
00:50:16.000
don't believe in Jesus enough to turn the other cheek.
00:50:21.820
We don't believe in the message of the gospel, which is what Gandhi and Bonhoeffer and Martin
00:50:32.100
We are escalating the trouble by not being messengers of peace.
00:50:39.840
And it strikes me that we don't really believe it.
00:50:51.820
Yeah, and it says something about us in a deep and profound place, and the only way
00:50:59.840
I know how to change is to meet those people who don't have what we have.
00:51:09.360
They don't have any of these other things, but what they do have is their faith, and their
00:51:15.680
And this is why, you know, for 2,000 years, we've told these stories.
00:51:20.520
In early America, every American home had a Bible, a copy of Pilgrim's Progress, and
00:51:29.540
And there's no surprise that there was something unique about the Judeo-Christian foundation
00:51:35.680
of this country, because we were close to people whose faith meant something to them.
00:51:40.960
They expected they would have to sacrifice their lives, their money, their reputation,
00:51:46.440
They would lose something if they were faithful.
00:51:48.600
And that is what this book is, The Martyr's Oath.
00:51:52.340
It is a new version of Fox's Book of Martyrs, and Johnny Moore is its author.
00:52:03.140
No word if I am mentioned in there for my iPhone delivery issue, but...
00:52:14.620
The book is The Martyr's Oath by Johnny Moore, at Johnny M on Twitter, and Martyrsoath.com
00:52:26.700
If I could personalize it and be selfish and talk about it and make it about myself, you
00:52:30.600
feel so pathetic hearing those stories, because you realize how little you sacrifice, how...
00:52:35.820
When you want to take a stand on Twitter, you're like, I don't know if I should post this.
00:52:39.560
I don't know if I should post this message about faith, because someone might hammer me.
00:52:45.340
I was at a doctor's office yesterday, and the doctor had Christian music on, and we started
00:52:55.520
And I said, because I wanted to talk to him about Corinthians, something I found in Corinthians,
00:53:06.360
So anyway, we started talking, and he said, you would not believe the number of people
00:53:12.520
Doctors that have come into my office and said, you should turn off this music.
00:53:20.280
And he said, I just don't want to live that way.
00:53:22.140
I mean, if you're really offended, go find yourself another doctor.
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If you are offended by a Christian message, then I mean, I don't know if I want to work
00:53:38.720
It happens occasionally down here in Texas in that you go into restaurants, and there'll
00:53:42.620
be, you know, the music will be like Christian music or religious music.
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And it, as someone who grew up in the Northeast and who's lived in the Northeast most of my
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You know, if I go into a Middle Eastern restaurant and they're playing Islamic music, I'm not going
00:54:05.900
But it's some it's we are so sensitive and so worried about offending everybody.
00:54:10.700
And the last this is the last place you should be worried about.
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Interesting little intersection of feelings, emotions and principles happening on Twitter
00:56:08.620
Kim tweets, hey Stu, shut the F up about the iPhone 10.
00:56:20.800
She actually spelled out the F word in her attempt to get closer to Christianity on the
00:56:44.900
Can you imagine the thought process you go through when you're hearing this?
00:56:51.220
Here's this story about all these people who are doing amazing things.
00:56:55.120
The people who are like, I got a letter from a terrorist.
00:56:59.760
So I'm going to respond and say, hey, come on over whenever you want.
00:57:05.220
And I know you know it because you sent us this mail.
00:57:13.660
Then you get a three second reprieve from all these people being murdered in the Middle
00:57:20.360
And your response is to go to such anger about your love for Christianity that you scream
00:57:33.080
Have you seen Ryan Hamilton, his special on Netflix?
00:57:39.780
You know, we have to play a piece of it because he's from Idaho and he's living in New York.
00:57:49.100
And he just doesn't look at things the same the same way.
00:58:23.660
Could we just spend a few minutes personally on on something?
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As you if you are a longtime fan of mine, you may you may know the.
00:58:42.080
Well, if you've watched me over the last year, I think I've had a lot of people say.
00:58:58.800
But for multiple reasons, and this has been really long, tough five years for me for a myriad of reasons.
00:59:10.780
And some things have happened in my personal life that have made getting up every morning and do this really difficult.
00:59:25.140
And my perspective has changed and I have been struggling.
00:59:29.040
I'm not a businessman and I have been struggling for a very long time with trying to have a vision of something and then having other people executed.
00:59:41.600
And me doing, you know, four hours of broadcast a day doesn't leave you a lot of time to run a company.
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You know, there's there's it's just not going to work unless it's my vision all the time and I'm in charge.
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Uh, and so about eight months ago, I started, um, really kind of learning, uh, my own business and figuring out where everything is.
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I said, OK, I think somebody's embezzling because there's no I'm looking at these numbers and there's no way we're making this crap for that amount of money.
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And I'm like, wow, no, we're just really bad at it.
01:00:29.360
Um, and, uh, so around August, we, we made some changes in the programming and I made changes, uh, here, uh, and then ran into some, uh, headwinds with me.
01:00:51.860
And, uh, I spent the week with my family up in the woods and, uh, we just, we just talked.
01:00:59.360
Uh, and what's important and what are we going to do?
01:01:04.420
And, uh, I had some people that wanted to buy, uh, everything and, uh, and I didn't, and my contract was coming to an end for radio.
01:01:16.540
Uh, my contract ends in on January 1st and, um, uh, I didn't, I hadn't renewed, uh, my contract.
01:01:25.700
And I sat back and made a list of all the things that I wanted to do and didn't want to do, uh, and what was important to me.
01:01:37.400
And then I flew in a couple of, um, good friends of mine, uh, you know, billionaire businessmen and said, it just doesn't, it, it, it's just, it, it can't be this hard.
01:01:53.320
And, and, uh, they said, well, you're, you're, you're, you're gut, your gut's right.
01:01:59.260
So, so I had to decide that week, whether I was going to, uh, retire and go to the woods or if I was going to, uh, uh, really make changes, uh, in my life on, in a myriad of, of areas.
01:02:18.180
Today, I can, uh, I can announce a press release was just, um, uh, was just sent out.
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Premier Radio Networks and then, and Mercury Radio Arts, Glenn Beck's multimedia production company has announced today a renewed and extended agreement to syndicate the Glenn Beck program.
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Um, uh, as the premier celebrates the 15th anniversary of the Glenn Beck program in national syndication this year, its audience of millions continues to grow across radio, digital, and podcasting platforms.
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Um, the program has experienced year over year audience gains in markets, including Los Angeles, San Francisco, Dallas, Houston, Minneapolis, Denver, Pittsburgh, Kansas city, Columbus, Norfolk, uh, and Memphis in, uh, key demographics.
01:03:04.820
Um, I've just signed another five year, uh, contract to do this radio program.
01:03:11.680
And, uh, I made a commitment, uh, to myself in, uh, September that, uh, I was only going to do the things that I am good at and that my company is only going to do the things that we are good at.
01:03:27.340
And we're not good at, and we're not good at an awful lot.
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Um, but we are going to, um, make some, uh, changes, you know, that doesn't mean employees or anything else.
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It, it means, uh, everything that I have already told the employees that we're doing, we're making, uh, changes and, uh, it is a new era for me in, uh, January, 2018.
01:03:53.440
Um, um, I have, um, spent a lot of time this fall thinking about, uh, what matters most and what matters most is my family, my children.
01:04:19.760
I don't know how to be, um, the man that I want to be in this society.
01:04:26.720
I don't know how to teach my son, how to be the man he wants to be in this society.
01:04:31.400
I, I, I, I'm doing my best, but there is no outpost for honor and integrity and, and men being men.
01:04:46.380
There is no place that is an outpost that is trying to teach things that I don't even know.
01:04:54.440
I don't know the most valuable thing I could teach my children right now is to be open-minded and to not, to be intellectually humble, to expect that change is going to be the biggest concept, uh, constant in their entire life.
01:05:17.320
I don't know anyone who is teaching about the future and the things that we have coming our way.
01:05:35.340
And as Stu said to me earlier, I can't believe we've lasted this long.
01:05:52.760
Um, I can't thank you enough for putting up with, uh, me and putting up with my, um, own personal journey.
01:06:05.720
Uh, everybody else seems to have their crap together.
01:06:13.220
Uh, I, I have times when my crap is together and I have just experienced a, a five-year period where
01:06:20.960
for the life of me, I have not been able to get a handle on, on life.
01:06:28.320
I thank God that I have a good wife by my side and children who I am closer to than ever before.
01:06:39.740
So business insider was, uh, quoting, uh, Jim Rogers.
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He is a, um, uh, he's a huge, um, investor and, uh, everybody listens to his advice.
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And he said, everybody should have coins, physical coins as an insurance policy, as an emergency,
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I think of gold, he said, I hope you, you never need them, but you have to start by owning
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gold coins, coins that are recognized all over the world.
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And in today's world where everything is upside down and the market is just growing and growing
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and growing, everybody, every investor will tell you, Oh, you got to be in the market.
01:07:36.900
But where is your, your hedge, where is, where is, uh, that thing that just is stable and
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And what he's saying is everyone should have it.
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Insurance that the world has gone insane insurance that what the central banks are doing that has
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We were talking to Johnny Moore about his book, The Martyr's Oath, where he's talking
01:09:27.540
about these amazing Christians who are saying, you know, to the terrorist, uh, go ahead and
01:09:36.540
And a woman tweets him and says, she says, uh, I, uh, let's see, I'm pulling it back up
01:09:46.420
Shut the F up about the iPhone 10 trying to listen about Christian martyrs.
01:09:53.040
So he, cause he butts in and makes a joke about the iPhone 10, uh, you know, and his big concern.
01:09:57.940
And, uh, I just, I found the, the, the side by side of screaming on Twitter, the F word
01:10:05.220
fully spelled out, uh, uh, uh, to a stranger while asking for deeper coverage of the, the
01:10:12.360
perils of Christianity in the Middle East is a little strange side.
01:10:16.960
So I saw a comedy special on Netflix that you have to watch with your family.
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It is hysterical, especially if you've ever even been to New York, it's called Ryan
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Um, but, uh, he is a guy who grew up in a town of about 400 people in Idaho and he, he
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So he's a little of a fish out of water a little bit.
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And he has this Idaho mentality in New York city.
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And he talks about, uh, you know, how he just doesn't understand the culture of New
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For instance, like when he, uh, ran into a drug dealer and saw a, a, a drug dealer across
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I know I have that look about me, but, uh, I was standing on the street corner.
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There's this guy on the other side of the street and he gives me one of these head nods,
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And he walked over and he flashed me this handful of little white pills and he said,
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I felt like I was turning down dessert after grandma baked me a big pie, you know?
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Ryan Hamilton, happy face, special you have to see on Netflix.
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He is, uh, I think he's my new favorite comedian.
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Uh, so I was interested in, in this, uh, Roy Moore thing with the legal letter they sent.
01:12:34.300
Oh, is this the one that looks like it was almost a mad lib?
01:12:39.780
It's like, I don't know if somebody redlined it and they were blind or what happened.
01:12:43.760
Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense in the language we speak very often.
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Here's some, uh, David French had some excerpts from it.
01:12:52.980
Uh, your client as an entity has also carelessly and perhaps allowed general slander and libel
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to the reputation of my clients by seeking out and or reporting from those who did individuals
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who falsely portray the reputation of Roy Moore in Northeast Alabama.
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Uh, just, it's a jumble, but okay, clunky, just clunky, clunky, goes on your client's
01:13:19.920
He's, this is from Roy Moore's attorneys to media organizations.
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Your client's organization has made and or supported defaming statements.
01:13:27.700
This is due to the careless and or intentionally refused to advance the truth regarding our clients.
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Wait, wait, this is due to the careless and or intentionally refused to advance the truth
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Like, it's like they wrote two sentences and then corrected them.
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It is like a blind man was redlining the, the, the, uh, the lawsuit.
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You know, you always get redline stuff back from your attorney and they're like, I redlined
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It's like somebody just arbitrarily just went, I'm going to redline this.
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Um, we also believe that your client by and through its agents have damaged our clients
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by being careless in how they handle headlines and report the contextual of the allegations.
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Um, this is another one, meaning your client has used terms in reports maliciously or carelessly,
01:14:33.560
which has falsely portraying our clients now, which has falsely portrayed our clients, right?
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It's just, it's very strange coming from an attorney to make all these mistakes.
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Coming from a DA, coming from a DA, his firm is representing him that way.
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It's, it's, it, it is a little, uh, a little surprising.
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Robert Mugabe's army explained that they were only targeting criminals around Mugabe who are
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committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country.
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The turmoil within Mugabe's army comes after the 93 year old dictator, who I thought was
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Uh, many people wish he were fired his deputy and longtime ally.
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The deputy was next in line to run the country in the event, and it's never going to happen
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When he was swiftly dismissed, Mugabe, uh, appointed his wife to that role instead.
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Now that usually is a big no, no, uh, you know, within unstable dictatorships.
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You don't willy nilly appoint your wife to the next highest position at the last minute
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and screw your friends over and don't expect some tanks to be rolling your way for 37 years.
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Mugabe has ruled supreme without a whisper of a military coup, but it looks like that's
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Finally, maybe, maybe this will be a good thing.
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I have to imagine anyone overthrowing Robert Mugabe could do a better job for Zimbabwe, but
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A spokesman for the Zimbabwe Defense Forces announced that as soon as we accomplish our
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mission, we expect the situation to return to normalcy.
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The problem is the people of Zimbabwe have never known normalcy.
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Whatever the Zimbabwe Defense Forces idea of normal is, most likely it is nowhere close
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We were talking about a TED Talk, I don't know, about a month ago that was a black man
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And we had him on, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago and wanted to continue the conversation
01:19:19.980
It was just not an easy conversation because we're a million miles away from each other
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But we need to start listening to each other and learning from each other and building bridges
01:19:33.340
And I really firmly believe if you haven't been out of your comfort zone in the last seven
01:19:41.160
You have to be put into uncomfortable situations.
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So we wanted to have Theo back and continue our conversation.
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I wanted to see if we could spend just 10 minutes and just try to find any common ground
01:20:06.600
For instance, this new thing, which I think is a good thing overall, of outing the sexual
01:20:19.460
predators, is a little frightening because it could easily get out of control because
01:20:31.940
They're reported in the press and in the case of the Amazon head, fired, no questions asked.
01:20:40.080
And it's happening to both the left and the right.
01:20:43.180
And I don't know how we are going to navigate in a world where there is no due process.
01:20:53.920
It's a simple situation where we are looking at a backlash of a subculture, or should I
01:21:04.340
say an undercurrent in regular culture, where we don't contemplate how our actions as men
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and the power games that we play have affected women for such a long time.
01:21:20.460
We have been the ones on their necks silently, and this has been status quo.
01:21:28.640
The power that we hold as men tends to be a power that we do not question until something
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I believe that there will have to be a due process at some point in time because that's
01:21:49.280
But I don't know what to make of it at this point.
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I was talking to a friend yesterday, and I was saying to her, you know, this is something
01:21:59.540
that seems like it's a manifestation of something that has been brewing and stirring for quite
01:22:10.880
I just know that we often don't realize the kind of fear that we put into women because
01:22:19.880
And, you know, anybody who works at a domestic violence shelter will tell you the number one
01:22:30.180
Have women felt witch hunted for quite some time?
01:22:32.780
So is there justice in this that remains to be seen that that fully remains to be seen?
01:22:43.040
So, Theo, do we are we a collective or are we individuals?
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Because, you know, I will agree with you that, you know, we don't necessarily see this this
01:22:57.700
We don't see the the the struggle, I guess, that some women are having.
01:23:04.940
But also, I will tell you that in my own life, I do everything I can to be gracious and kind.
01:23:14.760
And I'm sure I make mistakes and everything else.
01:23:23.200
And, you know, we've we've as a family have done a lot for, you know, battered women shelters
01:23:29.720
and everything else on a personal basis, because I grew up in a home of abuse.
01:23:38.820
I mean, do do men are men responsible for this or are or is man?
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And I'm sorry, are men responsible or is man responsible for this?
01:23:53.260
I I think about this often, you know, I am a heterosexual man.
01:24:00.680
I've never violated a woman, never taken from never raped.
01:24:07.560
Have you ever been have you ever been have you ever, you know, like somebody just said the
01:24:13.300
Well, I mean, I, you know, I'll I will, you know, be a little more aggressive if they're
01:24:31.580
I have to pay the cost in my dating life for what other men have done.
01:24:36.380
This culture likes to say that, you know, we're all individuals.
01:24:44.500
You can't tell the power of human beings until you see us together.
01:24:47.960
You we are a collective to a certain degree, man.
01:24:55.560
We have a group think that we are all subject to called culture.
01:25:02.840
We are raised in a milieu of circumstances that give us our worldview and as as a race
01:25:10.420
So I know I've never stepped afile of a woman in that way.
01:25:15.020
I have to realize that women are stepped on all the time.
01:25:18.260
And so to to a certain extent, if I want to deal with women, I must deal with what women
01:25:23.740
go through and who is committed to being a good man, figure out how I can do my part
01:25:31.100
But I can't ask to be just immediately separated from the group that I belong to just because
01:25:37.840
But here but here's here's look at it this way.
01:25:42.320
I know this to be true in my own life, because when I first started dating my now wife, she
01:25:49.120
had dated some real dirt bags and the damage that had been done to her.
01:25:56.880
And and I know I said to her at one point, I'm not those guys.
01:26:09.660
And I had to really go out of my way to prove I'm not that kind of guy, you know.
01:26:19.020
But aren't we also creating a culture where we are just lumping all because I don't believe
01:26:28.680
I think there's a lot of men, but I don't think most men are like that.
01:26:32.800
And and shouldn't we be extolling the the good guys to shouldn't we be saying, hey, there's
01:26:43.220
I think that you run a risk in that point, because at the moment that somebody comes
01:26:49.640
to you wounded and broken, if you start, you know, extolling virtues and saying that
01:26:55.780
we're not all like that, in a way you dismiss their pain.
01:27:00.440
And one of the things that, you know, just in basic like facilitation training, you know,
01:27:07.720
when I underwent mine, I it was like you have to make immediate space for somebody's
01:27:13.340
wounds at the moment that you just have to do that.
01:27:17.840
If you want to maintain any sense of stability and compassion for that person, you have to
01:27:22.700
make sure that they're heard when they're hurting.
01:27:25.460
So I'm not I'm not suggesting that you would say that to somebody who is coming to you,
01:27:30.520
I'm I'm talking about, you know, for instance, in my position every day I'm facing somebody
01:27:43.980
I don't want to defend anyone because I don't know.
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I just do want to say that not all men are like that.
01:27:55.620
But at the same time, we have to be cautious of witch hunts because it can get out of control
01:28:03.360
to where once you've set the precedence that somebody can just accuse you of something
01:28:21.660
I'm not sure if this is the time, but there will be a time for that to say, listen, man,
01:28:27.140
due process is a thing because there are also female predators.
01:28:31.600
Like there are women who will take advantage of men in drunken situations.
01:28:36.300
And, you know, especially if you're a star, somebody, you know, like like many guys who
01:28:42.040
are famous and rich are seen as prey items by women who are in search of the next meal
01:28:48.500
So and there were like there have been manipulations of condoms.
01:28:51.220
There have been manipulations of alcohol, you name it.
01:28:54.140
Things that involve ecstasy that I've heard of from certain star athletes and movie stars.
01:29:05.700
I'm not sure that we can stand in front of this tide right now without being swallowed
01:29:11.660
It has to reach its crest and it has to recede.
01:29:14.320
And that's what it seems like is going on right now.
01:29:16.800
But I think there I do not think that we have to worry that we're never going to have due
01:29:22.800
process and we're never going to have the defense of decent men again.
01:29:28.940
I don't think that we're we're in those waters.
01:29:31.060
So let me see if I can find any common ground here.
01:29:42.700
Roy Moore is has been accused of stuff and I could see it.
01:30:08.300
They can't compartmentalize something that is really flawed flaw in his character and then
01:30:14.880
be, you know, not flawed elsewhere in his life.
01:30:19.580
That trait is a pretty big, important character trait.
01:30:24.180
I will believe the left is serious about this when they say, OK, yes, Roy Moore.
01:30:44.700
Well, I've heard people call Bill Clinton a predator on the left before.
01:30:48.700
I think that it's kind of a known fact at this point.
01:30:52.660
Bill Clinton's predatory behavior has a history decades long.
01:31:00.620
I think that if you look at the left, the way that they went after Harvey Weinstein, man,
01:31:06.780
like the way that they let Harvey Weinstein hang for his crimes is kind of proved to me
01:31:13.700
This was written about somewhere, I believe, on CNN.com right after the Harvey Weinstein
01:31:17.780
story broke, where I really am not good at telling names right now who wrote this article,
01:31:26.320
How Harvey Weinstein's fall in Hollywood, a leftist, by the way, was tied to the left not
01:31:34.300
being willing to just be a hypocrite, that when we see predation on any front, we have
01:31:43.820
I mean, by the way, you know, there's a lot of evidence toward what happened with Harvey.
01:31:49.640
I don't think this is as much of a partisan issue.
01:32:01.700
I don't know what political money you belong to, you know what I mean?
01:32:07.780
So, Theo, I've got to run, and I'm sorry, because I enjoy our conversations, but I think
01:32:13.780
we can find the common ground here that no matter which side it is, we have to be consistent
01:32:37.280
You can check out Theo E.J. Wilson's stuff at theoejwilson.com, and see his TED Talk.
01:32:44.060
It's a black man goes undercover in the alt-right.
01:32:47.640
I mean, we just, I don't think we have a lot in common.
01:32:52.240
I really want to talk to him about ongoing slavery next time he's on.
01:32:58.820
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A friend of mine sent me an audio clip yesterday from Colin Coward.
01:34:54.660
And this is what he had to say about Colin Kaepernick and being the man of the year in
01:35:06.420
So let me ask you, here are their people of the year.
01:35:22.640
So what's the magazine industry doing in America?
01:35:36.660
I consider myself a social liberal, a fiscal conservative.
01:35:40.200
But this is why the magazine industry is out of business.
01:35:43.960
Why Sports Illustrated, which I grew up, that was the magazine.
01:35:50.680
We have a country now that speaks to half the people.
01:35:53.640
The publishing business, the newspaper industry.
01:35:56.100
By the way, you want to know why the Fox News channel does okay and makes a billion dollars a year?
01:36:00.680
Because it's the one place conservatives feel speaks for them.
01:36:05.100
That's why the liberal channels slice and dice the audience and the conservatives go to one channel.
01:36:11.580
I mean, this to me is just a political statement.
01:36:15.940
Absolutely true and spoken just calmly and rationally, and they still don't get it.
01:36:25.920
In fact, I think they had the opportunity to get it, and I think the Donald Trump thing, instead of opening their eyes, made them more heartened.
01:36:45.940
CNN issued a report yesterday that I thought was remarkable.
01:36:57.720
They're covering actual news, but they approached this story oddly as if they found this hard to believe, that there is slavery happening in the Middle East.
01:37:11.520
Our contacts are telling us that there are one to two of these auctions every month, and that there is one happening in the next few hours.
01:37:21.080
So we're going to head out of town and see if we can get some sort of access to it.
01:37:25.700
For the safety of our contacts, we have agreed not to divulge the location of this auction, but the town we're driving to isn't the only one.
01:37:35.480
We're ushered into one of two auctions happening on this same night.
01:37:39.060
Crouched at the back of the yard, a floodlight obscuring much of the scene.
01:37:46.180
One by one, men are pushed out as the bidding begins.
01:38:01.580
This is CNN, and they're showing the men in Libya that are being auctioned off, and they are amazed by this.
01:38:14.360
We can have you interview 97 people that were used as ISIS slaves that our teams went in and rescued.
01:38:24.780
In fact, we just got two more, and we are looking for another 17 right now.
01:38:30.780
The slave trade is alive and well, and they're just they're showing the the auction of human beings and and and acting as though this is really rare.
01:38:45.060
Now, we can wait for, you know, the people like CNN to expose it, and then and then we can have a hashtag campaign or you can help us actually rescue people through the Nazarene Fund.
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We have a announcement coming this Saturday at our gala event, and and we are doubling down.
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We'll tell you about it on Monday here on the radio, but we are serious about the slave trade in the Middle East, and we really could use your help.
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Our gala is happening on Saturday, and we always do something like this to raise money for our for, you know, for the keep the lights on.
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I do a big benefit thing, and Chuck Norris is coming this weekend.
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If you want to come to the M1 ball, you can tickets, I think, are $100 or $150 a plate, and all the proceeds go to help keep the doors open,
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We're going to have an armadillo race, or you could just you can come or just donate money if you if you'd like mercury one dot org slash M1 ball.
01:40:35.860
Mr. Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed is with us now.
01:40:51.300
If you put the hashtag out, they can't do it anymore.
01:40:53.540
Well, also, if you have to add on the hashtag, please consider having less slaves.
01:40:59.960
You've got to make sure you get both of those in there.
01:41:14.780
Mattel has a new doll out, and it's about time.
01:41:22.940
It's in, I guess it's in honor of Olympic fencer Ibtihaj Muhammad.
01:41:35.060
Just in time for Christmas, or I'm not sure if it's in time for Ramadan.
01:41:45.540
So, it's either just in time or a little too late.
01:41:48.700
But I'm sure you're up to date on when it happens this year, so you could obviously determine
01:41:58.120
You know, I don't want to insult people who already have their Ramadan plans.
01:42:03.840
Or have celebrated and already used those Ramadan plans.
01:42:11.080
I'd be in the, I'm already, I'm already, I've got my Ramadan stuff already.
01:42:19.780
Anyway, yes, except for the fact that there is no Barbie car that comes with it because she's
01:42:28.980
And she can't leave the Barbie mansion without.
01:42:31.840
So is there a, is there a front door on the Barbie mansion?
01:42:38.280
And if you pull Ken's string, he says, I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you.
01:42:51.300
Which is either coming or has already happened.
01:42:56.700
You just don't know which one of the two it is.
01:43:05.000
You don't want to insult people who have Ramadan plans.
01:43:11.160
I think that the woman who just got thrown off a plane with her support pig probably has
01:43:23.580
A woman brought a support pig on a plane and they said, okay, well, it's for my emotional
01:43:45.200
So if it had a vest and it had the car, yes, you can't have a pig on a plane.
01:43:52.180
Because this is because there's 200 other people on the plane.
01:43:56.960
And their sensibilities should be considered as well.
01:44:04.120
And the pig was running around up and down the aisles.
01:44:14.480
I mean, if it's running around, that's different.
01:44:17.240
If it's sitting on your lap, you know, I mean, if I put a vest on a herd of cattle, can I
01:44:27.180
You have to have a vest and you I know because I have two service dogs.
01:44:36.040
Because as long as it has the tag, a pig, as long as it has the tag, that means that it
01:44:53.300
I mean, they're not giving out the at least when I've gotten them.
01:45:02.200
The Department of Homeland Security is getting hacked and you think they can't manufacture
01:45:07.680
Well, now you've gone from a problem with a pig to saying the woman is making her own
01:45:19.100
I'm just saying that it's a scam that if you put a vest on, the animal can go anywhere.
01:45:23.340
It's like a certificate you print off the internet to be a surgeon.
01:45:32.320
It has a place on it that has a picture of the pig, has the name, has the qualifications.
01:45:40.980
Mr. Libertarian over here is all pro-license all of a sudden.
01:45:57.900
You're supposed to handle it during your flight, I think.
01:46:07.100
They brought the pig all the way through security already, though.
01:46:10.820
Well, they took it off because the pig was running up and down the aisle.
01:46:14.660
So then they tried to lash it to one of the seats and it couldn't.
01:46:18.980
They just pulled off the leash and so they finally had to take this.
01:46:35.280
I don't think there are emotional support pigs.
01:46:41.120
What kind of emotional support can a pig give a human being?
01:46:47.580
More in-depth pig on airplane talk coming on Pat Gray Unleashed.
01:47:01.420
Pat, you're answering all the email from the people who have pigs.
01:47:16.960
You can tweet him your emotional pig support...
01:47:21.440
I'd like to see pictures of all of the pigs that this audience has.
01:47:43.720
My wife actually went through a period where she was trying to convince me to get a pig as a pet.
01:47:57.400
There was one time that I wanted to have a lion as a pet.
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He's a startup entrepreneur describing the possibilities of having microchips inserted in your brain.
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I started a company called Kernel a year ago, and I invested $100 million to create chips that would be implanted in the brain to help address disease and dysfunction.
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We're leveraging this emerging technology to also explore how we might extend human potential.
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The first cochlear implant was approved by the FDA 30 years ago.
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A deep brain stimulator was approved by the FDA in 1997, and 125,000 people now have this implanted.
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Let's take a look at how far this technology has come.
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He's holding up a monitor, and he turns this thing off.
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For the first time ever, scientists have boosted human memory with a brain implant.
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University of Southern California has demonstrated the use of a brain implant to improve the human memory.
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A research associate professor of biomedical engineering at USC recently presented his findings on a memory prosthesis.
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Because they've put a chip into people's brains, and it stimulates different parts of the brain.
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They have increased short-term memory by 15% and working memory by 25%.
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It's one of those things where you feel like the answer to that should be no.
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And I will say, the case he makes there, which is cochlear implants, where a person couldn't hear and now can.
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People who had Parkinson's are able to control their lives because of these things.
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They are changing the way the body, the brain works.
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If you can improve your life, if you can take away diseases and ailments...
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The difference is, I think, in this, this is augmenting yourself, and that's just stimulating your brain.
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That's not a chip that you're uploading stuff into.
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This is just a machine that is pushing you to the limits, I think.
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Inside the First Church of Artificial Intelligence,
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The new religion of artificial intelligence is called the Way of the Future,
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and it represents an unlikely next act for Silicon Robotics Wunderkin
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at the center of high-stakes legal battle between Uber and Waymo, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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He says, what we're going to create is going to be effectively a god.
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It's not a god in the sense that it makes lightning or causes hurricanes,
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but if there's something that is a billion times smarter than the smarter human,
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what else are you going to call it other than God?