The Glenn Beck Program - 11⧸28⧸17 - Wondrous Acts of Journalism？ (Steve & Jackie Green & Lee Sepanek join Glenn)

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00:00:09.740 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.

00:00:15.220 Keith Oberman has done it. Keith Oberman has cracked the case.

00:00:21.400 He has righted the ship. He has dealt the Trump administration

00:00:24.920 such a severe gut punch that he can now retire from political commentary for good.

00:00:33.840 Here he is. If you didn't know, Keith Oberman actually has a job.

00:00:41.540 He started something with GQ called The Resistance.

00:00:45.800 And here is a piece of the last episode.

00:00:49.380 So now that I think the outcomes, the seven different inevitable outcomes,

00:00:53.720 are unavoidable. I'd like to go back and enjoy some of my life again.

00:00:58.300 And I'm going to. No illness, no scandal, no firing.

00:01:02.180 Just, I've said what I've had to say.

00:01:04.620 It was as obvious as I made it seem.

00:01:07.640 I give my work everything I can so it's not like I can dial it back.

00:01:11.880 And I think even this dim-witted world of American political TV reporting,

00:01:15.900 which is still calculating how to get Trump's idiot supporters to watch their networks

00:01:19.460 and still waiting for Trump to pivot, even it can carry this the rest of the way.

00:01:24.600 So I am retiring from political commentary in all media venues.

00:01:29.260 And the crowd cheers.

00:01:31.360 Apparently, the weight of a seven to ten minute internet segment for GQ

00:01:36.440 was just too much weight to carry.

00:01:38.420 He couldn't go on with his life and carry that seven minutes for GQ.

00:01:43.780 I have no idea how he endured such a heavy burden for so long.

00:01:49.420 My God, man, it's been months.

00:01:51.640 How much of a workload can the human body take?

00:01:55.740 Oberman and the GQ resistance are apparently declaring victory.

00:02:01.700 This was their version of the George W. Bush mission accomplished speech.

00:02:06.540 Whereas Bush delivered his from an aircraft carrier dressed in a flight suit,

00:02:11.880 Oberman sat, you know, pretty in a trendy suit in front of a perfectly colored GQ backdrop

00:02:18.800 that I think might have been done possibly by the elevators in the building.

00:02:23.840 So what's got the resistance so confident that Keith can now retire?

00:02:29.960 Listen.

00:02:31.520 I'm confident now, even more so than I have been throughout the last year,

00:02:35.280 that this nightmare presidency of Donald John Trump will end prematurely and end soon.

00:02:39.840 And I am thus also confident that this is the correct moment to end this series.

00:02:44.760 Oh, wow.

00:02:45.940 Now, so what's got him so confident about the president going to be impeached?

00:02:49.520 Well, is it something, a new revelation from the Mueller investigation?

00:02:54.320 Sure, he mentions Flynn and Mueller right off the bat.

00:02:58.100 But then he mentions another possible way Trump could get fired.

00:03:01.480 And then another.

00:03:02.700 And then another one.

00:03:03.720 He goes on to list seven harebrained theories ranging anywhere from Russia to obstruction of justice

00:03:10.560 to Pence initiating the 25th Amendment.

00:03:14.280 So what's the ultimate coup de grace here?

00:03:18.060 Is it definitely one of the seven possible?

00:03:22.560 Is it one of the above or none of the above?

00:03:26.240 I guess the better question here is, what's the real reason for this video?

00:03:30.660 He denies it, but was he actually fired?

00:03:35.000 Maybe Keith's going back to ESPN.

00:03:38.400 I don't know.

00:03:39.860 But like they say on SportsCenter or so, I'm told, and I think everyone can, you know,

00:03:45.760 I think I can speak for everyone that watched the video.

00:03:49.440 Hey, Oberman, come on, man.

00:03:52.100 Did I get that right, Stu?

00:03:59.900 That's way better than I expected it.

00:04:02.440 It's Tuesday, November 28th.

00:04:04.920 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:04:06.900 The ESPN line was written by Stu Bergeer.

00:04:10.940 Trying to make me sound...

00:04:12.780 Like you knew what you were talking about?

00:04:14.040 Like I knew exactly what I was talking about.

00:04:15.560 By the way, how can seven different outcomes be inevitable?

00:04:21.380 I'm not really sure.

00:04:22.800 Is that possible?

00:04:23.860 No, not really.

00:04:24.920 But in Keith's world, everything is possible.

00:04:28.160 I mean, I would imagine that there was just nothing to watch there, you know, on the resistance.

00:04:35.920 And GQ didn't fire him.

00:04:37.100 It was just kind of like, nobody's watching, man.

00:04:39.000 I don't think we should do this anymore.

00:04:40.200 No, he claimed that there were, in the video, he claims that there were four, he had 400

00:04:43.780 million views of his commentary.

00:04:46.940 400 million views.

00:04:49.960 Wow.

00:04:50.480 You should be able to, you should be able to prove that.

00:04:55.660 I mean, pretty easily.

00:04:56.960 You know, there's a lot of ways you can look at those numbers.

00:05:00.060 You know, maybe if he's, he said he did, I think, 150 episodes or something like that.

00:05:05.160 So 150, so about 3 million an episode.

00:05:07.960 Is that possible?

00:05:08.780 I guess.

00:05:09.800 I don't know.

00:05:10.580 I don't know what kind of impact Keith has these days.

00:05:12.640 I don't know.

00:05:13.300 But apparently not that big of an impact because the president, as far as I know, still the

00:05:18.540 president.

00:05:19.080 Still the president.

00:05:19.740 Hadn't been impeached yet.

00:05:20.820 No.

00:05:20.960 There's a, there's a post from Carly Fiorina on Medium that I, I really want to get to

00:05:27.920 next hour that she says it's time to man up.

00:05:33.440 And yes, yes, it is.

00:05:37.620 But the way she puts it, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm probably just, I guess I'm the most ignorant

00:05:44.200 man on the planet because I, I, I'm not aware of the things that she says that all men know.

00:05:50.960 And I don't, I, I'm not, I, I, well, you're, I mean, that would assume you're a man.

00:05:57.360 Was that, was that easy enough for you?

00:05:59.420 Was that an easy enough layup?

00:06:01.020 I mean, I, you are one of seven different possibilities, but none of them are man.

00:06:08.660 Let me give you, let me give you this story from the Washington Post.

00:06:12.920 A woman approached the Washington Post with a dramatic and false tale about Roy Moore.

00:06:18.840 She appears to be part of an undercover sting operation.

00:06:22.760 The reporter was Stephanie McCrummon of the Washington Post.

00:06:27.180 A woman who falsely claimed to the Washington Post that Roy Moore, the Republican U.S.

00:06:31.520 Senate candidate in Alabama impregnated her as a teenager, appears to work with an organization

00:06:36.960 that uses deceptive tactics to secretly record conversations in an effort to embarrass its

00:06:42.520 targets.

00:06:42.960 In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged

00:06:48.180 sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15.

00:06:53.880 During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the

00:06:58.980 effects that her claims would have on Moore's candidacy if she went public.

00:07:02.960 The Post didn't publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account.

00:07:06.820 When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an internet posting that

00:07:13.260 raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization

00:07:18.280 that targets journalists.

00:07:19.980 But Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project

00:07:24.580 Veritas, an organization that targets mainstream news media and left-leaning groups.

00:07:29.900 I mean, how stupid do you have to be?

00:07:38.480 How stupid do you have to be?

00:07:40.620 First of all, she posted something in her past.

00:07:44.080 You can't get away from your past.

00:07:46.920 She posted something in her past that said, hey, I'm going to New York and I'm going to

00:07:51.960 go to work for an organization that exposes the mainstream media and their liberal bias.

00:07:58.320 And we're going to get the words out.

00:08:00.640 Well, the Washington Post found that and was like, wait a minute.

00:08:05.520 You said you worked at like a mortgage company.

00:08:08.820 And by the way, we called the mortgage company and they say you don't work there.

00:08:14.980 Well, it could be a mortgage company that's exposing liberal media bias.

00:08:18.360 No one thought about that.

00:08:20.400 Do we have the audio, Sarah?

00:08:21.960 This is the Washington Post.

00:08:23.800 First, they did their own.

00:08:25.480 They ran a video themselves of the takedown.

00:08:31.360 But you were interested in doing this job.

00:08:33.720 Can you talk about that a little bit?

00:08:35.520 Yeah, it was going to be with the Daily Caller.

00:08:39.560 The Daily Caller.

00:08:40.540 Yeah.

00:08:40.840 Okay.

00:08:41.160 But it didn't, it ended up falling through, so I wasn't able to do it.

00:08:46.300 Uh-huh.

00:08:47.020 My, because my fiance was relocating to New York, so I was looking for a job to go with

00:08:52.140 him.

00:08:52.780 Uh-huh.

00:08:53.500 And it didn't work out.

00:08:56.320 So I ended up staying doing what I was doing.

00:08:59.240 Uh-huh.

00:08:59.920 Uh-huh.

00:09:00.380 And what was your interest in working for the Daily Caller?

00:09:03.040 Um, I just, I like the, I like their stories, and I thought that I would be good at doing

00:09:10.600 research and stuff like that.

00:09:12.540 Uh-huh.

00:09:12.980 Because just based on my background with the mortgage business, like that's a pretty

00:09:17.460 useful idea.

00:09:18.060 Stop, stop, stop.

00:09:18.700 I mean, look, the background of mortgage.

00:09:21.200 Yeah, it goes right to journalism.

00:09:23.020 Right there.

00:09:23.600 It goes right there.

00:09:24.560 It's just, you go, it's one step from an amortization schedule to, right to liberal media

00:09:30.040 bias.

00:09:30.580 It's like, it's almost the same job.

00:09:32.280 It's right there.

00:09:33.140 I thought I would be a good investigator, you know, because of my mortgage experience.

00:09:38.820 That's solid.

00:09:39.820 Okay, continue.

00:09:41.800 Combating the lies and deceit of the liberal MSM, do you still have an interest in working

00:09:47.320 in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceit of the liberal MSM?

00:09:54.000 No.

00:09:54.440 Is that still your interest?

00:09:56.200 No, not really.

00:09:57.960 Yeah.

00:09:58.800 No.

00:09:59.120 No.

00:09:59.940 No.

00:10:00.500 No.

00:10:00.900 So, if you're not working for that mortgage company, where are you working?

00:10:08.480 I work for one of the branches.

00:10:11.220 I don't work for the corporate office.

00:10:13.320 Uh-huh.

00:10:13.700 And what's the franchise?

00:10:15.520 It's a...

00:10:16.500 You said a friend?

00:10:18.080 A branch, yeah.

00:10:19.460 A branch.

00:10:20.680 Maverick?

00:10:21.380 Yeah.

00:10:21.600 And where is that?

00:10:24.300 In, um, it was out of Atlanta.

00:10:26.700 It was out of Atlanta?

00:10:29.180 They allow us to work remotely.

00:10:31.520 Uh-huh.

00:10:32.220 Uh-huh.

00:10:33.420 And so where...

00:10:34.600 Okay, so stop.

00:10:35.820 So stop.

00:10:36.700 So, where are you working now?

00:10:39.100 Well, the mortgage.

00:10:40.380 Yeah, but we called and you're not working at the...

00:10:42.880 Well, I was working at a branch.

00:10:45.380 A branch.

00:10:46.200 A branch?

00:10:47.480 Yes.

00:10:48.460 Where was that located?

00:10:50.440 Uh, well, it was out of Atlanta, but they let us work from home.

00:10:56.960 I mean...

00:10:57.960 Fuck, I mean...

00:10:58.820 I mean, I'd like to give the Washington Post credit for, you know, doing their homework,

00:11:03.680 but I don't think it was that hard on this one.

00:11:06.540 Yeah, I mean, yes.

00:11:08.420 I think...

00:11:08.940 What's the point of this, right?

00:11:10.100 Like, take the Project Veritas thing.

00:11:12.300 What are they trying to do?

00:11:13.660 Well, Project Truth.

00:11:15.660 Right, truth, right.

00:11:16.440 Veritas is truth.

00:11:18.600 Yes.

00:11:19.460 So, the idea being...

00:11:22.520 And I think that this is something that many of us would believe, right?

00:11:26.400 That in the middle of this frenzy, if someone comes to the Washington Post with a story about Roy Moore,

00:11:32.700 they're going to pretty much accept it without asking questions.

00:11:35.540 We've seen that happen at, for example, Rolling Stone.

00:11:39.320 Yes.

00:11:39.700 Right?

00:11:39.980 Rolling Stone did almost exactly this thing.

00:11:42.320 Yes.

00:11:42.520 They had this person come up with a relatively believable story, and they printed it.

00:11:46.260 Yes.

00:11:46.620 So, the fact that the Washington Post could do this is something that you could see as possible.

00:11:52.240 On the other side of this, they didn't do it.

00:11:55.960 We should...

00:11:56.440 This should be something that we should, as conservatives, celebrate.

00:11:59.220 And the idea that they had an opportunity to take this BS story and run with it, and didn't.

00:12:06.920 They actually looked into it.

00:12:08.540 They did their job.

00:12:09.180 They did what they say they do.

00:12:11.280 Yeah.

00:12:11.580 Right?

00:12:11.800 If you watch this whole video, she goes into, well, we did this and this.

00:12:15.940 As soon as we met with you, we started looking into you, and, you know, some things fall apart here.

00:12:23.420 And, I mean, how great is that?

00:12:27.880 How great is that?

00:12:28.920 Good.

00:12:29.540 I mean, that doesn't mean the Washington Post is clear.

00:12:32.220 It means that this reporter does her job, and that's good.

00:12:35.200 And if I were the head of Project Veritas, I wouldn't have put, you know, a fundraising letter out last night saying,

00:12:41.440 ha-ha, we got another one, and they're going to make it even harder for us.

00:12:44.680 No, you didn't.

00:12:45.840 No, you didn't.

00:12:47.320 Project Veritas.

00:12:49.880 Truth.

00:12:50.920 You didn't.

00:12:51.900 What you caught was the Washington Post doing their job and not getting fooled by you.

00:13:01.140 That's good.

00:13:02.700 Is it not?

00:13:03.560 Isn't that what we should be wanting?

00:13:06.260 No.

00:13:07.340 Instead, what we want is we want to catch them doing it.

00:13:11.900 Well, we just caught them not doing it.

00:13:14.920 Why isn't that a win?

00:13:16.960 Why isn't that?

00:13:18.500 Because the project isn't about truth, apparently.

00:13:22.440 The project is about winning.

00:13:26.280 Truth would demand that Project Veritas would come out and say, we tried to pull this over, and we were bad at it,

00:13:33.700 but we tried to pull this over at the Washington Post.

00:13:36.080 They caught us because they actually engaged.

00:13:39.400 The story wasn't more important than the truth to them.

00:13:44.780 Congratulations to this reporter.

00:13:47.580 Great job.

00:13:48.600 And it doesn't mean you have to get the liberal media.

00:13:52.060 It doesn't get an, they're not off for everything they've ever done.

00:13:54.660 No.

00:13:54.860 It doesn't mean that everything in the Washington Post is now credible.

00:13:57.020 You caught them doing something right.

00:13:57.920 You question them when you think something's wrong the same way you would before, but you

00:14:02.400 tried to do something where you present it.

00:14:04.400 You gave them a softball of not only, and we mentioned this quickly, but not only another

00:14:09.980 sexual accusation, but Roy Moore paying and driving this woman to get an abortion, right?

00:14:15.500 That was, it was a huge, this is, this is, it should have been a feeding frenzy, right?

00:14:20.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:20.840 And they stopped and they looked into it and they found out it wasn't true.

00:14:24.260 And of course, after that, they tailed her to the Project Veritas offices, which is, they

00:14:30.280 just followed her from the interview to the office of Project Veritas.

00:14:36.020 I mean, this is, guys, you're just, you're not, you're not as good as you think you are.

00:14:47.900 Arrogance.

00:14:49.400 Arrogance will be all of our undoing.

00:14:54.260 So, last summer, I told you, I was freaked out by my son.

00:15:01.760 I came home and I discovered that my son's voice had changed.

00:15:06.680 And, you know, that story's not, that story's not new.

00:15:09.720 You blink your eyes and all of a sudden your kids are driving the car and your kids are

00:15:14.760 grown up and what happened?

00:15:16.780 What happened?

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00:15:23.220 There's no timer.

00:15:24.260 Um, I have a daughter who has, um, epileptic seizures.

00:15:27.700 And so she, um, she can't get stressed out at all.

00:15:31.500 And, uh, you know, we can't have all kinds of stuff.

00:15:34.400 So we have to play simple games.

00:15:36.240 My wife hates, hates games like Monopoly. 0.99

00:15:42.220 She hates games where, you know, somebody is eyeing to win because when she was a kid,

00:15:48.760 her brother was so competitive.

00:15:51.000 So we, we have very few games we can play.

00:15:53.620 Anyway, Say Anything is a relaxed game.

00:15:56.840 It takes about 30 minutes.

00:15:58.860 Um, and in those 30 minutes, I'm telling you, you'll learn more about your kids and the way

00:16:03.000 they think, uh, than a month of driving them to and from soccer practice.

00:16:08.680 One of those games where kids ideas are often more profound than the ideas that we think

00:16:14.300 they have say anything, not just for parents and kids.

00:16:18.160 Anyone can play.

00:16:19.200 It's a great game for all ages.

00:16:21.480 It's a few weeks before Christmas.

00:16:23.620 If you want your family to start talking together, start laughing together, start playing together,

00:16:28.860 say anything.

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00:16:37.920 Glenn Beck.

00:16:45.700 Glenn Beck.

00:16:48.300 Okay.

00:16:48.980 So there's, you know, ISIS targeting New York city for Christmas.

00:16:53.720 Uh, there is, uh, you know, financial crisis.

00:16:57.140 There is the story of the, uh, tax bill going in front of Congress.

00:17:02.240 The president's going to talk to Congress today.

00:17:04.860 And I say to Stu, so what is, what's top of your list that you think we need to cover

00:17:10.580 today?

00:17:10.900 And he says, Megan Markle.

00:17:13.520 And I say the, the, the, the, the Prince thing, the Harry or whatever his name, that

00:17:21.240 Royal story.

00:17:22.300 Who cares about the stupid Prince, the stupid Prince.

00:17:25.240 And this dumb monarchy is screwing up my television.

00:17:28.960 She's the, one of the stars of suits on USA, which is one of my favorite shows.

00:17:33.760 And as soon as this happened, I was like this stupid Prince better not screw up my favorite

00:17:38.200 show.

00:17:38.640 What happens?

00:17:39.460 She's retired from acting.

00:17:41.140 She's like 20 and she's retired from acting because she has to go live as a freaking princess 1.00

00:17:46.800 in this country that we've, how many times have we bailed them out?

00:17:50.420 First of all, we dragged them into civilization by us leaving them in the first place.

00:17:55.520 Secondly, I mean, what would have happened to that?

00:17:57.820 It wouldn't even be an Island if it wasn't for us.

00:18:00.620 And now they're stealing our, our, uh, incredibly, uh, talented actresses, uh, from the, one of 1.00

00:18:08.400 the best shows on television.

00:18:09.860 And now they're going to have to come up with some stupid thing.

00:18:12.060 Like she's going to take a job at another firm, or she's going to become a waitress or go 0.98

00:18:15.980 to charity or whatever she's going to do to write her out of the stupid show. 1.00

00:18:19.020 And, and, and what, because you have a monarchy in 2017, you're screwing up my Wednesday nights

00:18:25.640 because you have a monarchy in 2017.

00:18:30.280 This is infuriating.

00:18:31.800 I haven't seen you this passionate about anything until, since Coke Zero was pulled

00:18:37.240 off the market.

00:18:38.000 That's the last story.

00:18:39.000 You have weird trigger points.

00:18:41.300 You really do.

00:18:42.200 The, uh, I will say the observation of the year may go to Greg Polowitz, who I think we've

00:18:46.400 had on the show before, but he's a, you know, a smart guy.

00:18:48.600 Uh, but he, he writes, Prince Harry's kids will be Americans.

00:18:54.240 What if one grows up to be president and is in line for the throne at the same time?

00:18:58.980 Brits are playing the long ball here.

00:19:00.660 It's a smart move.

00:19:01.520 They want America back and this is how they'll do it. 0.81

00:19:07.060 So, so wait a minute.

00:19:08.040 She would have duels. 1.00

00:19:09.440 The child would have dual citizenship.

00:19:11.280 She could be, he could, he or she could be king, uh, and king queen.

00:19:16.240 I don't know with all the gender stuff, what I'm allowed to do here, but king slash queen

00:19:20.020 slash president, theoretically at the same time, probably they'd come up with a way to

00:19:24.720 block that. 0.69

00:19:25.360 I would think they might.

00:19:27.140 Yeah.

00:19:27.300 Yeah.

00:19:27.720 How about this Prince?

00:19:29.600 You've got a lot of money by an apartment in the city, in the city somewhere in the United

00:19:34.300 States or in Canada.

00:19:35.340 Cause they shoot a lot of the show in Toronto and you can just both live there.

00:19:38.740 You don't have to live in America or the UK.

00:19:41.320 You could just compromise and move to Toronto and she can still do the stupid show. 1.00

00:19:45.080 How about that?

00:19:46.240 I can't believe that she's an actress and the queen is going to let an actress in, let

00:19:51.500 an actress in.

00:19:52.440 Oh my gosh.

00:19:53.140 Have you watched?

00:19:54.740 Oh boy.

00:19:55.500 Yeah.

00:19:55.640 I'm going to make fun of me for suits and then you're about to reveal what you watch.

00:19:59.060 Have you watched the crown?

00:20:00.100 No, that's really good.

00:20:01.960 Sure.

00:20:02.160 It is.

00:20:02.400 It's really, really good.

00:20:04.180 Uh, but watching the crown, you simultaneously feel so horrible for these people or the life

00:20:09.700 they live.

00:20:10.220 And then you also hate their guts because they're just whiny brats. 1.00

00:20:14.960 But it's, it's amazing how their love life is just dictated really by, by parliament and

00:20:21.800 the prime minister.

00:20:25.360 Glenn Beck.

00:20:26.600 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:37.600 You don't want to miss the chalkboard series this week at five o'clock on the Glenn Beck

00:20:41.380 program.

00:20:42.020 Uh, this week we're taking on the deep state.

00:20:44.280 What is the deep state?

00:20:46.400 It's five part, four part series started last night, but you can join it, uh, and check

00:20:51.140 it out and, uh, and, and watch, uh, yesterday's episode before, before tonight.

00:20:56.240 But it is explaining the deep state because everybody says, oh, we've got problems with

00:21:00.560 the deep state.

00:21:01.200 It's the deep state taking them out.

00:21:02.520 It's the deep state.

00:21:03.420 Well, what is the deep state?

00:21:05.680 There, there are two kinds of deep states and we have one kind and not the other kind.

00:21:13.540 And what does that mean?

00:21:16.300 How does it work?

00:21:17.740 What do you do, um, to fight against it all this week, only on the Glenn Beck program on

00:21:24.040 the blaze TV.

00:21:25.500 Um, I read a story a couple of weeks ago about a guy who has put Christmas lights up on his

00:21:33.320 home for 30 years.

00:21:34.700 He's decorated his home in Arizona and, uh, he spends like three months decorating, um,

00:21:40.900 and getting everything, getting everything right.

00:21:44.040 Nobody's ever complained in his neighborhood.

00:21:46.440 Somebody moved and then a new family moved in and they complained to the city and said

00:21:52.280 that, you know, the traffic is just horrible.

00:21:55.340 And so the city came in and said, you have to stop this because he was violating code because

00:22:01.500 he was selling hot chocolate, um, to try to pay for, you know, the, the, uh, the work

00:22:08.480 of putting the lights up, et cetera, et cetera.

00:22:10.540 He said, I'll give it away.

00:22:12.340 They said, you can't even do that.

00:22:14.800 So he stopped decorating for the first time in 30 years.

00:22:18.560 His name is, uh, Lee, uh, Stepanek and Lee is with us now.

00:22:23.240 Hello, Lee.

00:22:23.680 How are you?

00:22:24.720 Good.

00:22:24.960 How are you, Glenn?

00:22:26.080 So, so tell me, um, what the reaction has been in your neighborhood.

00:22:34.460 Oh, the neighborhood.

00:22:35.740 Once they found out what was going on, I was totally upset.

00:22:38.900 I still have cars driving by just to see the dark house, but of course we turned the tables

00:22:47.140 on the city a little bit as we took all of my lights and we've decorated 10 homes on my

00:22:52.620 street.

00:22:54.420 Wow.

00:22:55.620 Wow.

00:22:56.240 So now, and then other neighbors have joined in.

00:23:00.460 So now my street, which is about 15 houses, um, that are now decorated and there's only about

00:23:07.560 three that are not.

00:23:09.460 And were one of those three, the one that complained, do you know who complained?

00:23:14.160 Yes, I know.

00:23:15.300 Yeah.

00:23:16.000 And, um, did they talk to you about it or anything?

00:23:18.540 Cause I have to be honest with you, Lee.

00:23:19.940 I lived in Connecticut and there was a house on my street.

00:23:23.600 Uh, and there was only one, there was only one way to get to my house and it was on the street.

00:23:27.800 And the guy spent, I loved it.

00:23:29.960 I loved it and became friends with him and everything else.

00:23:32.900 He would spend three, four months putting them up and taking them down.

00:23:36.720 Uh, and he loved it.

00:23:38.680 And people would come from all over.

00:23:40.040 I, on the other hand, as a neighbor that was just trying to get home, hated the traffic,

00:23:44.840 but I lived with it.

00:23:46.580 Can you understand why somebody would be like, I, I mean, this is ridiculous on my street.

00:23:52.400 Well, I understood that completely.

00:23:54.560 And I've always said for years, you know, I've lived in this home on this street since 1973.

00:24:00.120 So basically what has happened is I've outlived the neighbors because the people that were living here when I moved in have passed away or some of them have moved away.

00:24:11.380 So the, the ones that complained moved in, uh, not even a year ago.

00:24:16.340 I looked up the tax records and they moved in in February of 2016.

00:24:21.580 So the first Christmas they experienced what I've got going on here, uh, caused them to complain to the city.

00:24:28.500 But I've since learned from their immediate neighbors, uh, that they're the type that complain about everything I get.

00:24:35.420 And they actually went so far as ask one of their neighbors to cut down a tree on their property because some of their leaves were blowing into their yard.

00:24:46.320 Wow. Okay. All right.

00:24:48.200 So the kind we're talking about.

00:24:50.060 Yeah, I do. I, I've, I've had those kinds of neighbors and you know, what, what solves that is if you, uh, just mysteriously find bamboo planted somewhere in their yard.

00:25:00.060 And anyway, that's a different story.

00:25:01.740 Um, uh, you know, I, I offered to,

00:25:05.420 if it was a matter of block driveways, I offered to have signs printed that state, please do not block this driveway.

00:25:12.400 I was going to go and put them at the leading edge of everyone's driveway up and down my street.

00:25:17.880 And the city official from streets and traffic said, no, I couldn't do that because it's a right away.

00:25:23.520 And I was like, but there's no sidewalks.

00:25:26.840 So where am I impeding the people's natural flow?

00:25:31.780 If there's no sidewalks.

00:25:33.820 So what are you going to do now, Lee?

00:25:35.720 I mean, I'm, I'm just looking, if you're watching on the blaze TV, you're seeing this is, I mean, what are you paying your power bill?

00:25:42.300 My power bill run me about 1500 a year.

00:25:46.240 Uh, it's, it's quite the show.

00:25:48.800 Um, so what are you going to do?

00:25:50.700 You're not going to do it this year, but you say you are going to do it next year.

00:25:53.920 The way it's shaping up right now, the city has backed off on the COCO being offered for donation.

00:26:02.380 So they've backed off on that, um, due to back, you know, pushback from the neighborhood, from legal.

00:26:09.980 Uh, basically I got representation from, because I have a, an individual who's been coming here for years and his children are little.

00:26:18.600 Uh, and when he found out I wasn't going to do this anymore, uh, he got all up in arms and contacted a whole bunch of people that he knew that came to my, uh, to my support.

00:26:30.480 And, uh, have been great about it.

00:26:33.480 And our own district six councilman, as soon as he heard about this, he went to the city and started working on my behalf to get this overturned.

00:26:44.560 So as it looks right now, it looks pretty good that we'll, we'll probably do it again next year.

00:26:51.280 So you're, you also started a GoFundMe page and you started that because you were, you were taking the profits.

00:27:00.480 Of the hot cocoa and, you know, that allowed you to, to do this and put the lights up and buy new stuff, et cetera, et cetera.

00:27:08.000 And the city won't let you do that because you don't have a license.

00:27:11.260 So now you're trying to raise the, the money, uh, through GoFundMe.

00:27:16.000 That's correct.

00:27:17.000 Yep.

00:27:17.640 So what, what I used to get out of the, and I didn't make that, I mean, I was selling a cup of cocoa for a dollar.

00:27:24.060 Right.

00:27:24.840 Okay.

00:27:25.240 So it probably cost me 50 cents with the cup, the lid, the liquid, the powder.

00:27:30.840 So how much money could I possibly be making?

00:27:33.380 It's not like I made a lot.

00:27:34.460 I didn't, the, the show never, never made a profit.

00:27:39.620 Okay.

00:27:40.360 But it, it helped take the sting out of the cost.

00:27:44.840 The, the, I've seen the video.

00:27:47.280 There's a, it looks like almost like a, I don't know, a fair or something.

00:27:52.160 Yeah.

00:27:52.580 That's one of my decorated windows.

00:27:54.460 I have six of them.

00:27:55.600 That's the reason why people stop, get out of their cars and come to, I mean, my windows rival Macy's.

00:28:02.660 I mean, they're just all animated.

00:28:04.840 Did you build this?

00:28:06.020 Because I'm, I'm, I'm looking at it and I, I can't, I mean, it looks like a legitimate fair.

00:28:13.060 So, so did you, did you make all of that?

00:28:16.280 No, over the, I've been collecting stuff for over 40 years and, um, you know, I think the window you have there, the combination, that's with the train.

00:28:25.760 And yeah, it's actually my kitchen window and, uh, and everyone has done differently.

00:28:31.460 I don't think I even sent you the one I could send you the one.

00:28:34.540 There's like real fair, like the teacup, the, the, the, the, the teacup thing.

00:28:40.060 It was amazing.

00:28:41.480 Right.

00:28:42.000 Was in there.

00:28:43.320 Yep.

00:28:43.860 Lee, I can't even bring myself to go to the gym for 15 minutes.

00:28:47.140 Uh, you're spending nine to 10 hours a day for three months.

00:28:51.560 So this begins in what?

00:28:52.840 August?

00:28:53.840 Uh, September.

00:28:55.060 September.

00:28:55.660 Here we, we went to storage, got the lights out the third week of September.

00:29:00.680 It takes about two weeks to go through the lights and fix them and get them ready to go.

00:29:04.840 And then we started beginning.

00:29:06.660 In fact, I had the lights here.

00:29:08.440 We had been working on them for two weeks when I met with the city and I hadn't started

00:29:13.940 to decorate yet.

00:29:15.360 So then after meeting with them, I decided they were just making it too.

00:29:20.300 They can't directly tell me I cannot put up my lights, but if you take and make it difficult

00:29:28.140 all the way around and every other aspect, you discourage people from doing so.

00:29:33.440 Yeah.

00:29:33.540 And that's what they tried to do.

00:29:34.800 Yeah.

00:29:35.000 So, uh, how old a man are you, Lee?

00:29:37.120 I'm 66 years old.

00:29:38.840 You're 66.

00:29:39.540 And when you say we put the lights up, who's the we?

00:29:42.820 We, I have a gentleman who volunteers his time and helps.

00:29:46.620 And then my wife.

00:29:47.700 So the three of us.

00:29:49.540 And has your wife ever said, okay, Lee, enough.

00:29:54.860 Oh yeah.

00:29:55.820 I mean that every year, you know, you have to understand.

00:30:01.580 We go out every night from Thanksgiving to New Year's, greet people, uh, serve up cookies

00:30:08.760 or cocoa.

00:30:10.280 Only nights we are not out there is if it's pouring down rain and then I don't turn the

00:30:14.480 lights on anyway because it's not safe.

00:30:16.320 Why do you do, why do you do it, Lee?

00:30:19.240 It's just something I've been doing since I was 10 years old, living in New England.

00:30:23.100 I'm from Massachusetts originally and started doing it when I was a kid, living with my parents

00:30:28.880 and moved to Phoenix in 73.

00:30:32.740 Didn't do it for a number of years until my youngest was born.

00:30:36.580 And we would go around looking at other people's lights in the valley and he started saying,

00:30:41.560 well, we don't have any in our house.

00:30:42.900 Why can't we do it at our house?

00:30:44.900 So we started doing it and it started out small and it's grown into what it is today.

00:30:52.700 I'm fascinated by this.

00:30:54.060 So September, October, November is set up.

00:30:57.220 Then through November and December to January, you're doing, you're out there working it every

00:31:02.400 day with the lights.

00:31:03.220 And then there's a teardown process.

00:31:04.520 How long does the teardown take?

00:31:06.660 Usually a month, if it's three months up or so, it's a month, a month and a half to take

00:31:11.080 it down and put it away.

00:31:12.120 I mean, that is legitimately half of your year.

00:31:15.140 Yes.

00:31:16.480 That's an incredible amount of dedication.

00:31:18.420 I mean, I like Christmas, but.

00:31:20.480 So I don't think I'd ever take them down, Lee.

00:31:22.400 Yeah, I think you just leave them up.

00:31:23.440 I'd be excited to put them up and then I'd look at it afterwards and I'm like, I don't

00:31:27.040 care.

00:31:27.680 I'm just going to leave them up.

00:31:28.440 You know what?

00:31:28.820 I kind of hate that.

00:31:29.740 When it's 115 degrees and you're driving around Phoenix and you see icicle lights hanging out.

00:31:34.900 Yeah.

00:31:35.260 Yeah.

00:31:35.620 No, I'm not saying it's a good look.

00:31:37.260 I'm not saying it's a good look.

00:31:38.840 I would just not be motivated to spend a month and a half.

00:31:41.740 I think you just tarp the whole house.

00:31:43.380 Yeah.

00:31:43.480 You just put a big tarp over the top of it and then you just move somewhere else.

00:31:47.120 Camouflage netting over the house.

00:31:49.120 You know, that would be great.

00:31:50.420 The only problem is a lot of this stuff is made out of plastic and our son ruins that.

00:31:55.200 And if you were to leave this stuff up by the next year, half of it would be no good

00:31:58.680 anyway.

00:31:58.940 Yeah.

00:31:59.400 All right.

00:32:00.260 Lee, best of luck to you.

00:32:01.740 Do you have the address for the studio?

00:32:05.280 You happen to have that?

00:32:06.040 The GoFundMe page?

00:32:06.960 GoFundMe.

00:32:07.240 I do.

00:32:07.620 Let's see.

00:32:08.700 GoFundMe.com.

00:32:09.940 It says Help Relight Christmas House is where you can go to find it.

00:32:14.260 Yeah.

00:32:14.400 And that would be a great, it's a great goal.

00:32:16.500 It's going to put you back to work though, Lee.

00:32:18.280 I hope you're prepared for that.

00:32:20.220 That's okay.

00:32:20.860 You know, I look forward to it every year.

00:32:24.060 People don't realize this is a year-round thing for me because if I'm not doing, putting

00:32:28.200 it up or taking it down, I'm planning.

00:32:31.300 God bless your wife. 1.00

00:32:32.480 God bless your wife, Lee. 0.99

00:32:33.820 I know.

00:32:35.880 God bless you.

00:32:36.620 Thank you so much.

00:32:37.360 Lee Saponik is the guy who's doing the Christmas display in Phoenix.

00:32:45.540 It's GoFundMe.com slash Help Relight Christmas House.

00:32:48.740 I had one string of lights that I had to hang on the back porch of our house and I put it

00:32:54.200 up in like October of, I guess it was 2015.

00:32:57.900 And it came down last summer.

00:33:01.960 So it was, I kept it up throughout the whole year.

00:33:04.960 Yeah, good.

00:33:05.340 And then it lasted until they just started deteriorating so much that I had to dig them

00:33:09.240 down because they physically didn't work anymore.

00:33:10.840 Yeah, you're a class act all the way.

00:33:12.220 That's me.

00:33:12.920 So I went and I got a new tree.

00:33:15.440 You know, we've done fake trees forever.

00:33:17.700 And we went out and we cut our trees down this year and brought it into the house.

00:33:24.520 And so we had to go get lights.

00:33:26.160 Yesterday, Tanya comes home from Hobby Lobby and she said, we want the big Christmas bulbs.

00:33:31.500 You know, like my grandparents used to have the big Christmas bulbs.

00:33:34.360 Oh, I love those.

00:33:34.880 Yeah.

00:33:35.360 And so she came and they were halogen. 0.96

00:33:38.460 And we put them up and it was like, those look, those aren't right.

00:33:44.100 That's not right.

00:33:44.940 They haven't nailed the like 50s through 80s Christmas lights.

00:33:49.160 They have.

00:33:49.960 They've just remade them.

00:33:51.560 Right.

00:33:51.720 And I said, no, these aren't the right lights.

00:33:53.980 And she said, but the other ones get so hot.

00:33:56.220 And we were talking about it.

00:33:58.320 And this is probably the wrong move, but I'm kind of willing to have the tree light on fire

00:34:05.020 and just have a just have some sort of a fire extinguisher around the tree in case it does

00:34:13.020 for the beauty of the lights, for the for the memories.

00:34:17.160 How did we not all burn to death?

00:34:19.780 I don't know.

00:34:21.320 And, you know, people are like, oh, I got to have a natural tree.

00:34:25.820 Forget it.

00:34:26.720 I did it.

00:34:27.780 I did it for many, many years.

00:34:29.200 And then I got an artificial tree.

00:34:30.980 And you know what?

00:34:32.100 Never have to worry about it.

00:34:33.360 We keep that thing up all year round, too.

00:34:35.360 Did I tell you that?

00:34:36.500 No, you didn't.

00:34:37.920 No, I do.

00:34:38.940 Because I kept we kept taking the tree down and then you put it in the box or whatever

00:34:44.560 and it gets all folded up.

00:34:46.680 And then you have to come out and fluff all the branches when you put it back up.

00:34:50.240 And I said, we have that garage.

00:34:52.240 Why don't we just put the thing up as is in the garage?

00:34:55.320 Oh, I don't have a problem with that.

00:34:56.240 So now it's just up there all the time, all year round in the garage, in the garage.

00:34:59.780 Not a problem with that.

00:35:01.000 Have you seen the tree?

00:35:01.860 Have you seen the huge tree in the lobby?

00:35:03.480 Yeah, huge.

00:35:04.140 OK, so we have like I don't even know what that is.

00:35:05.980 A 20 foot tree, all decorated, everything.

00:35:08.500 It's for the lobby.

00:35:10.240 I asked Tim the other day who decorated the tree.

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00:35:13.960 It was decorated like four years ago.

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00:35:22.700 It's exactly what should be done.

00:35:24.440 You just need some sort of a place.

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00:36:59.680 Glenn Beck.

00:37:09.680 Glenn Beck.

00:37:11.280 I had a friend write me last night after we did a segment on Bitcoin and what it is and how it works.

00:37:16.580 And we were talking about Satoshi Nakamoto.

00:37:20.820 What did you say his name?

00:37:21.800 Nakamoto.

00:37:22.340 Nakamoto.

00:37:22.740 We don't even know who the guy is.

00:37:24.300 Just picked a name.

00:37:25.940 He's the inventor of Bitcoin.

00:37:27.620 Has a million himself.

00:37:30.280 There's a rumor that he is actually Glenn Beck.

00:37:35.680 I'll tell you next.

00:37:41.140 Love.

00:37:42.720 Courage.

00:37:44.200 Truth.

00:37:45.440 Glenn Beck.

00:37:46.320 Who do you trust anymore?

00:37:48.440 President Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico, right?

00:37:51.040 That I mean, that's what the media would have had us believe.

00:37:54.360 Donald Trump does not care about Puerto Rico.

00:37:57.260 We know that from the coverage during Hurricane Maria.

00:38:00.660 The big part of the media's narrative was President Trump was too slow to send aid to Puerto Rico.

00:38:07.220 He didn't send enough aid.

00:38:08.820 He took too long to visit Puerto Rico.

00:38:10.640 Then he cared more about, you know, the hurricane hits in Houston and Florida.

00:38:16.460 And then the squabble between him and the mayor.

00:38:18.960 It was a nightmare.

00:38:20.740 All of this, all of this is debatable unless, unless you got your news from the media.

00:38:30.460 The media seemed poised to make Puerto Rico into Trump's Katrina, disregarding the unique circumstances of Maria following so soon after Harvey and Irma.

00:38:41.360 And, you know, the fact that Puerto Rico is a thousand miles off of the coast of Florida.

00:38:47.640 It turns out that when the media couldn't get any traction on the Trump hates Puerto Rico storyline, they actually didn't care about Puerto Rico's hurricane struggles either.

00:38:59.120 At least it's not as much as they cared about Hurricanes Harvey and Irma.

00:39:03.480 Now, hats off to the Washington Post, who just published a story.

00:39:08.620 Now, Washington Post does not like Donald Trump, but they published a story yesterday with the headline.

00:39:13.940 The mainstream media didn't care about Puerto Rico until it became a Trump story.

00:39:20.600 Researchers at the MIT Media Lab found that mainstream media did not cover Maria nearly as extensively as they covered Harvey and Irma.

00:39:30.820 Their report found that coverage did not increase until Trump had a feud with the the mayor of San Juan.

00:39:38.860 MIT found out that over eleven hundred news outlets produced stories about Harvey and Irma and only five hundred carried stories about Maria during the two week period before and after each hurricane hit.

00:39:54.360 MIT even did a language analysis of all of the hurricane coverage from the mainstream media.

00:40:14.880 Guess what they found?

00:40:16.880 The Maria stories featured far more political language, words like Congress, Senate, Democrats, Republicans, debt or tax, while the coverage of Harvey featured far more words like victim and family.

00:40:30.640 The bottom line is the mainstream media claims President Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico.

00:40:36.560 But it's really clear the media didn't care that much either.

00:40:41.940 This hypocrisy and moral high horse mentality from both sides has got to stop.

00:40:49.020 Who do we trust?

00:40:51.220 Well, I will tell you two points for The Washington Post.

00:40:56.140 A, not caring the the lie about Roy Moore and actually doing their homework and finding out that they were being set up.

00:41:05.320 There's a point.

00:41:07.260 And this one printing the story yesterday that takes on the media itself.

00:41:13.720 Trump and the media need to stop obsessing over each other.

00:41:18.980 And then focus on doing their actual job.

00:41:32.040 It's Tuesday, November 28th.

00:41:34.440 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:41:36.380 I go back to who do you trust?

00:41:38.220 The president is going back up to Capitol Hill today to have lunch and he's trying to get the tax bill passed by Friday.

00:41:47.840 We'll see if that happens or not.

00:41:50.040 But the CBO just came out with a stunning report.

00:41:54.200 Now, listen to this.

00:41:55.000 Yeah.

00:41:55.240 The CBO is basically claiming that.

00:41:59.040 You know, they're claiming a lot of things.

00:42:00.540 They claim that we would be saving $2,000 per family with health care.

00:42:04.440 Right.

00:42:04.800 And you go back to what they're claiming on the individual mandate we've covered at length on the show is completely ridiculous.

00:42:12.220 It's completely ridiculous.

00:42:13.700 And they're not telling the truth about it.

00:42:15.920 Their latest accusation here on the tax bill is that everyone paying under $30,000 will get a tax increase and everyone over that will get a tax cut.

00:42:25.740 Now, I don't know how I mean, you look at the breakdowns of it and it doesn't seem to make sense on its surface.

00:42:34.220 The New York Times did, I think, a much more thorough analysis.

00:42:38.740 And again, we don't know exactly what's going to be in this latest bill because it's not fully hammered out yet.

00:42:45.500 They keep changing it.

00:42:46.320 But basically what the New York Times is saying is if you take the standard deduction, and we won't get into any more nerdy tax talk than this, but if you take the standard deduction, you're almost definitely going to get a tax cut.

00:42:57.440 If you itemize and you're in the middle class, you have a chance it could be 50-50 whether you get a tax cut or a tax increase.

00:43:04.460 Now, we've said this many times on the air.

00:43:06.640 You've got control of the Senate.

00:43:08.160 You've got control of the House.

00:43:09.680 You've got control of the presidency.

00:43:10.900 There is no reason for anyone, anyone to get a tax increase in any situation.

00:43:19.980 You should have, these tax cuts should be so deep, they should take your breath away.

00:43:26.280 But what we have here is...

00:43:28.540 After the spending cuts.

00:43:29.880 And the spending cuts should be there too.

00:43:31.340 Yes.

00:43:31.680 I don't think after.

00:43:32.420 I think at the same time.

00:43:33.460 Yeah, same time.

00:43:34.060 I'm fine with that.

00:43:35.000 Yeah.

00:43:35.120 They should be part of it.

00:43:36.360 And you should be shrinking government and cutting the burden on the American people for everyone.

00:43:42.020 That doesn't mean raise it on the rich people because they're evil and redistribute the wealth.

00:43:47.940 That means cut it for everyone.

00:43:50.640 And that should be an easy goal for a party that says they're for a small government and has control of everything to accomplish.

00:43:58.500 That's not difficult.

00:43:59.380 We're not shooting.

00:44:00.220 This is not a high bar to clear.

00:44:01.180 It is apparently for the Republican Party, which can't seem to even do that.

00:44:06.180 And the way this is...

00:44:07.280 Now, look, I think a lot of this is the fault of the CBO.

00:44:09.260 I think they're scoring this.

00:44:10.620 They definitely seem to have a problem with math.

00:44:16.480 A problem.

00:44:17.260 Yes.

00:44:17.800 And I think a seeming political agenda.

00:44:19.940 It used to be.

00:44:20.520 It used to be that the CBO was just always wrong.

00:44:24.720 They would always just...

00:44:26.700 They would always underestimate the cost of something.

00:44:29.120 Whatever they say, oh, we're going to save X number of dollars.

00:44:33.060 No, it ended up costing you money.

00:44:35.000 Now, they are just so wrong.

00:44:38.020 And it seems to have a political bend to it.

00:44:42.160 It does.

00:44:42.680 I mean, it bends to the side of increasing government.

00:44:46.600 And again, I just want to point out what you just said.

00:44:49.620 The New York Times did a better job at evaluating this than the CBO.

00:44:56.100 I mean, I think so.

00:44:57.200 It's certainly more detailed.

00:44:59.200 And, you know, their analysis is, you know, look, middle class...

00:45:04.140 We all agree here.

00:45:05.600 I think we all agree.

00:45:06.600 If you're a person who likes smaller government, who wants tax cuts, we believe the tax cuts should be for everyone.

00:45:13.220 And the difference between us and Democrats, I mean, of course, they want many of them...

00:45:17.400 They all want it raised on wealthy people.

00:45:19.240 And some of them want it raised on everybody.

00:45:21.100 But there's a general agreement that if we can cut taxes for people who are in the middle class and who are at lower income levels, that's a really good thing. 0.70

00:45:31.040 Like, there's pretty broad agreement across the aisle on that one, you'd think.

00:45:37.260 So, I mean, I don't know how you can have a system that raises taxes on anyone.

00:45:43.520 I think a lot of it has to do with this idea that they have to be revenue neutral.

00:45:48.000 Republicans have bought into this idea that, well, what we're going to do is we're going to change things around.

00:45:54.180 But don't worry, we'll still bring in the same amount of money or pretty close to it.

00:45:58.520 And that's the wrong instinct to start with.

00:46:01.760 You should start with...

00:46:02.360 Is that what revenue neutral means?

00:46:04.080 Or does it mean that we're not going to put on more debt?

00:46:09.500 Theoretically, because the way this is scored and the way that the reconciliation project package is put together is they can add up to $1.5 trillion of debt over 10 years.

00:46:22.700 Now, that is, you know, again, that's because, as you point out, there's no spending cuts built into this, really.

00:46:30.200 This is, I mean, there's, you know, there are certain things that act sort of as spending cuts and revenue offsets.

00:46:35.340 But, I mean, in reality, when it comes down to it is they've bought into this idea that they have to go, please, people like the CBO, and say the exact same amount of money comes in.

00:46:45.020 We're not cutting government.

00:46:45.680 We promise.

00:46:46.760 You're supposed to promise the opposite.

00:46:48.800 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 You're supposed to say, hey, we are cutting government.

00:46:51.560 You know what?

00:46:52.060 There's going to be a lot less revenue coming in.

00:46:55.160 And what we're going to do as appropriate and sophisticated adults is also cut spending.

00:47:02.860 We're going to do both of those things.

00:47:04.000 That should be the goal, and it is not.

00:47:07.340 It is why the best president of the 20th century was not Ronald Reagan, in my opinion, was not JFK, certainly wasn't FDR.

00:47:16.580 It was Coolidge, because the first thing that Coolidge did was he cut the size of government by 50%, and then the next year he cut it, I believe, by another 50%.

00:47:28.060 I mean, he cut everything to the bone.

00:47:32.780 Then, then he gave the tax cuts.

00:47:36.840 Not the other way around.

00:47:38.360 And that's what spurred the economy on.

00:47:40.720 That's what got everything going.

00:47:42.480 Then it was just the greed of Wall Street and the, you know, just greed.

00:47:47.340 It's just greed that brought us down in the 1930s, and it was progressive ideas that kept us down in the 1930s.

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00:49:53.160 Glenn Beck.

00:49:55.600 Glenn Beck.

00:50:05.380 You know, we're talking about tax cuts and spending cuts.

00:50:09.320 Where are the spending cuts?

00:50:11.300 I saw this from the New York Times.

00:50:13.100 Diplomats sound the alarm as they are pushed out in droves.

00:50:16.560 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson at the White House on Monday, he made no secret of his belief that the State Department is a bloated bureaucracy.

00:50:23.800 And they talk about how all of these people that worked in the State Department are just very, very nervous about our country, blah, blah, blah, because they're all being fired.

00:50:32.340 In a letter to Mr. Tillerson last week, the New York Times reports, Democratic members of the House Foreign Relations Committee, citing what they said was an exodus of more than 100 senior foreign service officers from the State Department since January, expressed concern about what appears to be the internal hollowing out of our senior diplomatic ranks.

00:50:51.380 Mr. Tillerson, a former chief executive of Exxon Mobil, has made no secret of his belief that the State Department is a bloated bureaucracy and that he regards much of the day to day diplomacy that lower level officials conduct is unproductive.

00:51:05.740 Even before Mr. Tillerson was confirmed, his staff fired six of the State Department's top career diplomats.

00:51:13.440 In the following months, Mr. Tillerson launched a reorganization that he said will be the most important thing he will do and that he has hired two consulting companies to lead the effort.

00:51:22.800 Since he decided before even arriving at the State Department to slash its budget by 31 percent, many in the department have always seen the reorganization as a smokescreen for draconian cuts.

00:51:34.180 Mr. Tillerson has frozen most of the hiring and recently offered a $25,000 buyout in hopes of pushing 2,000 career diplomats and civil servants out by 2018.

00:51:49.520 He goes on to say that, you know, that they fired all of these people.

00:51:53.960 They've gone from 31 to 19 three-star generals, 369 remaining now out of the 431 minister and counselors, 14 have indicated they're going to leave soon.

00:52:14.880 That's an 18 percent drop.

00:52:16.400 I think this is good.

00:52:20.040 But getting cuts like these are impossible.

00:52:25.220 It's one of the things you talk about this week on the deep state.

00:52:28.780 Yes.

00:52:29.180 A lot of people because deep state has been this term that has been thrown around as just this sort of generic defense of Trump every time something goes wrong.

00:52:36.920 It goes into conspiracy land quickly.

00:52:39.580 Yeah.

00:52:40.140 And so, you know, we were looking at that and because there are there have been in history, there are around the world real legitimate deep state situations that are similar to what is accused.

00:52:52.140 Turkey is one right now. 0.98

00:52:53.440 Yeah.

00:52:54.440 But you go into what it kind of means here in the United States and, you know, it's a progressive utopia.

00:53:00.380 Yeah.

00:53:00.540 It's not really.

00:53:01.080 It's not a conspiracy.

00:53:01.980 It's not it's not necessarily people like trying to thwart Republicans.

00:53:08.040 It's this long standing group of people who have been in the same jobs for a million years.

00:53:14.060 And this goes back to your meeting with George W. Bush.

00:53:17.040 So, I mean, if you think it's about Trump, this goes back to what you talked about with George W. Bush when you met him and he was still in the Oval Office.

00:53:23.500 And he told you basically like there's not really no matter who wins the next election, a lot of the stuff isn't going to change because the same people are in the same positions and there's really no choice.

00:53:33.860 You're not given a choice to change direction as much as you'd think.

00:53:37.420 And that's why a lot of times you have people who are elected.

00:53:40.400 Bush is one of them who you kind of thought maybe he'll change things and you don't really get that change.

00:53:45.640 So the fact that the State Department might be gutted, gutted in many ways.

00:53:51.580 Done in the 1950s, you know, that doesn't mean every one of these people who are leaving or bad people or anything like that.

00:53:57.640 But you need change.

00:53:59.180 You need things to be moving.

00:54:01.400 You can't have people stuck in the same bureaucratic jobs for decades and expect things to improve.

00:54:08.320 It's the same way.

00:54:09.600 John Conyers having 55, 57 years in Congress is not a good idea.

00:54:15.820 It's not.

00:54:16.520 It doesn't help.

00:54:17.240 Look, what I can't I can't get my arms around is is how millennials will embrace big government when everything in their life shows that that system doesn't work.

00:54:29.260 They reject that in everything else.

00:54:31.620 They reject, you know, big layers of bureaucracy.

00:54:35.840 They just why do that way?

00:54:37.820 Just let's just finish it.

00:54:39.360 And they now have the capability of doing that.

00:54:43.800 I mean, think about what block chain can do for our voting process.

00:54:48.320 Block chain, which is what Bitcoin uses, is unhackable.

00:54:53.600 You cannot hack it.

00:54:55.780 And it's the most secure way to communicate or do transactions.

00:55:01.580 We could do block chain voting by the next election.

00:55:06.280 We could have that up and running.

00:55:08.680 Why wouldn't we?

00:55:10.560 Why wouldn't we?

00:55:11.420 Because people are entrenched in what they do.

00:55:14.800 They don't want their jobs to change.

00:55:17.580 They're fine and they're comfortable the way it is.

00:55:20.460 That's why we need real innovators.

00:55:23.460 And the first thing we have to do is just cut the fat and the layers upon layers upon layers of fat.

00:55:31.040 And the State Department, quite frankly, is, I believe, the reason we have had so many problems in the Middle East.

00:55:41.480 The philosophy has been wrong since World War I.

00:55:46.780 And they just keep perpetrating that same philosophy over and over and over again.

00:55:52.660 Wrap it in new paper and call it something new.

00:55:55.860 And it's not.

00:55:56.520 It's the same.

00:55:57.380 And it's why we have no credibility around the world.

00:56:00.340 And it's why nothing works.

00:56:02.360 And yet, you're right.

00:56:03.580 Millennials and many others embrace the government as the one pure thing, the one pure group of people who can get things done.

00:56:12.400 And what's crazy is that is the exact opposite of what we were founded on.

00:56:16.680 We were founded on the government is a nightmare.

00:56:20.300 The government is fire.

00:56:22.080 Fire is useful as long as you control it.

00:56:25.240 But the minute it becomes in control, it'll burn you to a crisp.

00:56:29.220 And we've forgotten that.

00:56:31.520 Yeah.

00:56:32.080 You know, there's so many examples of it.

00:56:33.940 One of the most, I don't know, random ones that I always come back to is the car seat situation.

00:56:39.140 As a kid, a parent with two smaller kids, why am I buying, you know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars of car seats for my car?

00:56:48.500 I understand that kids sitting in the back seat, you know, there was there's issues with the seat belts and the way they fit because they're made for adults.

00:56:54.900 Right.

00:56:55.280 Right.

00:56:55.460 So it makes sense that at some point you wanted to change that.

00:56:58.420 Right.

00:56:58.680 So the way they did that is governments decided to make car seats mandatory.

00:57:03.600 OK, we all know that makes sense.

00:57:05.160 I want my kid in a car seat.

00:57:06.180 It's definitely a better place for him to be.

00:57:08.040 And the reason is because those seat belts are designed for adults.

00:57:11.200 Now, you're telling me that a car company could not come up with a better solution than an additional seat that you have to strap in in this weird way that's impossible to remove.

00:57:18.980 So why don't we?

00:57:19.620 Right.

00:57:19.820 So why don't we?

00:57:20.880 Because governments have locked in laws that car seats are mandatory.

00:57:24.340 So to change that, if if if a car company was to put in an adjustable seat belt, right, that would just fit children, a clearly doable solution.

00:57:33.820 Right.

00:57:34.640 And would make much more sense.

00:57:36.400 It would car would come in an operational format.

00:57:38.840 You wouldn't have to go to Toys R Us or Babies R Us and buy car seats and replace them with bigger sizes and adjustable and strapping those things in, which is the bane of every parent's existence.

00:57:50.840 But they can't do it because they'd have to overturn 50 state laws to get it done.

00:57:55.920 Unbelievable.

00:57:57.040 Unbelievable.

00:57:58.440 Watch Deep State tonight at five only on The Blaze.

00:58:01.240 Glenn Beck.

00:58:02.160 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:14.960 So I just heard Rand Paul on tax cuts as the president gets ready to go and pitch the tax cuts.

00:58:22.080 I want you to listen to what Rand Paul said, because it reminded me of something else I've heard before.

00:58:26.520 Listen to this.

00:58:27.020 Hi, this is Senator Rand Paul with an update from Washington.

00:58:30.860 One of Washington's biggest problems is thinking the money you make belongs to the government.

00:58:36.180 I believe it's the other way around.

00:58:38.440 The money you earn belongs to you and government should have to justify why it should take it from you.

00:58:44.440 That's why I'm pleased to see the Senate moving this week to pass a tax cut.

00:58:48.420 So did you hear that?

00:58:49.800 I got a different philosophy.

00:58:51.240 The money belongs to you and the government has to justify why it's taking it.

00:58:57.280 We flip that around.

00:58:59.940 It's different thinking.

00:59:02.320 Listen to this from 1924.

00:59:04.440 Calvin Coolidge.

00:59:05.520 Costs of government are all assessed upon the people.

00:59:09.660 The expenses of the government reach everybody.

00:59:13.220 Taxes take from everyone a part of his earnings and force everyone to work for a certain part of his time for the government.

00:59:23.820 These are some of the reasons why I want to cut down public expense.

00:59:30.600 I want the people of America to be able to work less for the government and more for themselves.

00:59:38.460 I want them to have the rewards of their own industry.

00:59:42.100 This is the chief meaning of freedom.

00:59:45.400 Until we can reestablish a condition under which the earnings of the people can be kept by the people,

00:59:53.320 we are bound to suffer a very severe and distinct curtailment of our liberty.

01:00:01.180 And taxes must be paid.

01:00:04.100 They are not a voluntary contribution to be met out of surplus earnings.

01:00:09.620 They are a stern necessity.

01:00:12.100 They come first. 0.99

01:00:13.320 It is only out of what is left after they are paid that the necessities of food, clothing, and shelter can be provided and the comforts of homes secure.

01:00:25.280 One of the greatest favors that can be bestowed upon the American people is economy in government.

01:00:32.780 Amazing.

01:00:34.000 Amazing.

01:00:35.600 Amazing.

01:00:36.920 That is the reason we had the Roaring Twenties.

01:00:40.160 The reason why we had the crash was greed.

01:00:44.000 Out of control.

01:00:45.600 Greed.

01:00:46.120 The reason why we had the Great Depression.

01:00:49.200 It's not called the Great Depression around the rest of the world.

01:00:52.380 It's just called the Depression.

01:00:53.860 The reason why we had the Great Depression that lasted as long as it did is because we had government meddling with everything.

01:01:01.500 The exact opposite of what Coolidge was doing, FDR did.

01:01:07.740 Coolidge was an amazing guy.

01:01:10.820 Amazing guy.

01:01:12.220 And an amazing public speaker.

01:01:13.720 He's really bad.

01:01:14.760 A ball for himself.

01:01:16.240 I love that.

01:01:17.460 I want to do all stories like that.

01:01:19.400 Kim Kardashian trumpeted a new line of makeup products on Monday by posing in apparently nothing but gold glitter. 0.98

01:01:30.220 The Instagram post grabbed more than one million likes with an arm.

01:01:36.500 That's the way they used to sound on radio, too.

01:01:39.080 I mean.

01:01:39.940 That's solid.

01:01:40.720 There's something credible about it.

01:01:42.040 But even when you're talking about nude pictures and glitter makeup, I feel like you kind of get, oh, wow, whatever he's saying right now is fairly substantial.

01:01:53.820 Try this.

01:01:55.240 I don't know why it has to sound like it's true.

01:01:57.660 That's how he ends them.

01:01:59.240 Try this.

01:02:00.120 Help me out with this one, Stu.

01:02:01.440 You know, we've been talking about Bitcoin a lot.

01:02:05.700 Okay.

01:02:06.080 By the way, a rumor, it's a pretty bad rumor, but it's a fun rumor of who the inventor of Bitcoin is.

01:02:16.140 It may be one person.

01:02:17.580 It may be several people.

01:02:18.860 We don't know.

01:02:21.600 But he put away a million Bitcoins for himself.

01:02:26.680 That was how many billion?

01:02:28.200 Five, nine billion dollars as of yesterday.

01:02:31.160 Just the nine billion.

01:02:32.000 And that doesn't even include the forks.

01:02:33.620 It's actually well over 10 when you add everything in.

01:02:36.380 I mean, somebody is walking around with 10 billion dollars and we don't know who it is.

01:02:42.500 We have never accessed.

01:02:44.220 No, that money's just sitting there can be accessed by the inventor of Bitcoin and has never been touched.

01:02:49.960 The there's speculation that it's Elon Musk.

01:02:53.320 I think it's weak speculation, but it's fun speculation that it's Elon Musk.

01:02:57.460 OK, so yesterday we talked about this and a friend sent this to me and said, Glenn, here's the U.S.

01:03:06.420 code.

01:03:07.340 Help me out.

01:03:09.380 Tokens or paper used as money.

01:03:12.620 U.S.

01:03:13.420 code section 491 paragraph a whoever being 18 years of age or or over.

01:03:22.380 Not lawfully authorized makes issues or passes any coin card token or device in metal or its compounds intended to be used as money or any other currency.

01:03:38.680 Not legal tender in the United States to procure anything of value or the use or enjoyment of any property or service from any automatic merchandise.

01:03:49.500 Vending machine posted stamp machine turned turnstile fare box coin box telephone.

01:03:55.540 This is so old parking meter or other lawful receptacles depositories shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year or both.

01:04:09.480 Now, do you remember do you remember the guy in 2007 that did the Liberty coin?

01:04:15.900 Remember?

01:04:16.700 Yeah, loosely.

01:04:17.860 He started a Liberty coin.

01:04:19.020 He started a coin that was made out of gold and silver and you could buy it.

01:04:25.100 And he said you could use it for trade.

01:04:28.520 And he went to prison.

01:04:30.280 He went to prison.

01:04:32.680 How when when this starts to make a serious dent, look what they're doing to gold.

01:04:38.540 OK, they have found ways to keep people out of gold by doing.

01:04:44.280 I don't even remember what it's called, but the the reverse treasuries.

01:04:51.520 So they started the reverse treasury where I can't remember exactly how it works, but they started in the 1980s after gold went through the roof.

01:05:00.400 People start to panic about the currency.

01:05:02.720 Gold goes through the roof.

01:05:04.160 The government learned their lesson and they went, OK, well, we got to capture that money for the currency.

01:05:08.500 So we'll make a reverse currency.

01:05:10.520 So if it goes to gold, if it was going to go to gold, it'll incentivize people just stay with the treasury and just buy it into this treasury.

01:05:18.320 So they've done all kinds of tricks to keep the price of gold suppressed so people don't freak out.

01:05:23.300 Well, what is what is Bitcoin?

01:05:26.000 Bitcoin is just a new version of I'm freaking out.

01:05:30.140 I don't know if money is going to be worth anything.

01:05:32.240 And so I'm going to put my trust in this.

01:05:37.200 Well, it's a currency coin base.

01:05:42.620 How long before the government says you're not doing that?

01:05:46.160 It's possible.

01:05:46.840 I think it did say in there something like metal and its compounds, right?

01:05:50.880 No, not lawfully authorized makes issues or passes any coin card token or device in metal or its compounds.

01:06:02.240 So it's it.

01:06:03.560 Yeah, it's got.

01:06:04.400 I mean, I don't know, obviously, exactly what the reasoning is, but this would also every loyalty card, every, you know, there's a million different things that that would outlaw outlaw.

01:06:17.780 If you read that specifically, loyalty card is a loyalty card.

01:06:22.040 This is a crypto currency.

01:06:24.800 This is saying there's no other currency.

01:06:26.880 The name of it is a crypto currency.

01:06:29.520 A gift card.

01:06:30.300 Anything that you have that has an ability to purchase other things, right, is covered by that.

01:06:37.620 And there may be addendums to that.

01:06:40.440 But Gap isn't going after the dollar, right?

01:06:44.200 Bitcoin could go after the dollar.

01:06:46.040 At what point is the pain in any one country so high from Bitcoin that they say we can't allow it?

01:06:54.720 And this is one of the arguments that people who love Bitcoin bring brings up because people will say, well, what if what if the government cracks down on it?

01:07:01.940 And they will say correctly that there's no way to stop it.

01:07:05.540 There's no way to unless you shut the entire Internet off.

01:07:09.120 There's no way to stop these currencies from spreading and being used, which is true.

01:07:14.320 If you own, for instance, right now, if you own money and you've put it into a foreign bank and you haven't declared that money as being in that foreign bank, you can go to prison here in the United States.

01:07:28.500 So the government can say it's illegal for all Americans to own it.

01:07:32.460 And that's the thing.

01:07:33.020 And you know what that does is it certainly chases people like me and you out of it.

01:07:36.080 Yeah.

01:07:36.340 I mean, like I while I like the concept of it, if it's illegal in the United States, I'm not going to deal with it.

01:07:41.620 You know, that's not you know, there are certain libertarians who might say, well, you know, they have no right to enforce these things and we'll go to other countries and we'll do what we have to do.

01:07:50.660 The average person is going to bail on this stuff if that stuff occurs and places like Coinbase, which is the biggest exchange of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the United States.

01:08:02.420 If they're not allowed to operate right, like they'll probably go overseas and continue their business and they'll still get business, but it makes it a lot more difficult.

01:08:10.420 It happened with and this is something that was is much more questionable legally, which was online gambling.

01:08:16.720 And there were big companies were doing online poker and stuff and they started in the United States and they wound up having to move to other countries.

01:08:23.580 And it wasn't until the U.S. government issued what I believe a ridiculous edict to that.

01:08:30.760 These companies had to stop and you had to you could you were now no longer allowed to send them money.

01:08:35.940 And there was a lot of different regulations they put on and it basically killed the industry for regular people.

01:08:42.740 So there's still people who do it.

01:08:44.480 Right.

01:08:44.780 I mean, of course, there's people who do it.

01:08:46.400 There's people who drugs are illegal.

01:08:48.360 There's still people who do drugs.

01:08:49.620 Right.

01:08:49.920 But it's going to kick out the average person who doesn't want to deal with legal hassles, who doesn't want to break the law, who doesn't want to be on the wrong side of it.

01:08:55.980 And that's the threat.

01:08:57.000 I think it would it would at least in the short term suppress the price because people.

01:09:02.840 Yeah.

01:09:03.040 What the question is, is what what does that I mean?

01:09:06.340 Bitcoin now is I mean, think of this.

01:09:09.300 Bitcoin is a fully automated company.

01:09:11.960 There are no humans working for Bitcoin.

01:09:14.780 It's a machine.

01:09:16.460 It's been set up.

01:09:17.880 It's program runs.

01:09:19.320 No one can stop it.

01:09:20.980 It's just a machine.

01:09:21.880 You have to shut down the entire Internet to be able to shut it down.

01:09:25.380 So it's becoming one of the largest, if you will, corporations in the world.

01:09:30.940 It's bigger than is it bigger than Apple yet?

01:09:33.480 Not that big.

01:09:34.220 No, it's one hundred and sixty five billion dollar market cap just for Bitcoin.

01:09:38.060 That doesn't include all the other ones.

01:09:39.360 I think the total is over three hundred billion dollars.

01:09:41.940 So it's becoming a gigantic corporation with no employees, no CEO, nothing, no humans involved.

01:09:51.680 How much how much does that have to be worth before the government says, OK, OK, OK, enough?

01:09:59.460 I mean, that's just that's the thing that I think you have to solve.

01:10:05.140 You have to get over that hurdle.

01:10:06.840 The government for this to really explode and really make it.

01:10:12.760 But you have to see what happens when it really starts to hurt the United States Treasury.

01:10:20.040 And, you know, if it's a ten thousand, I don't know what that number is.

01:10:23.860 Twenty thirty fifty thousand.

01:10:26.460 What does it have to be before the Treasury says, you know what?

01:10:29.260 This is getting out of hand.

01:10:30.400 Boy, it hasn't been a good year for Uber, has it?

01:10:41.440 Uber disclosed a breach of fifty seven million passengers and drivers records.

01:10:49.380 Fifty seven million hackers access the personal information, names, driver's license, the drivers and the names,

01:10:57.120 the email addresses, the phone numbers of passengers, all of it.

01:11:01.060 The breach was just announced and the personal information was actually stolen over a year ago.

01:11:07.060 Congress is looking into it now.

01:11:09.160 If you're only credit monitoring, I mean, it used to be that you could monitor credit like this.

01:11:15.340 If you some you bought something in Brussels and then 20 minutes later, you know, you bought something in Atlanta,

01:11:23.540 that would be a flag and somebody would say, hey, it looks like stolen identity or credit.

01:11:28.480 Well, that's not the way it works now.

01:11:30.760 I mean, some people are just doing that, but that that that that doesn't help you.

01:11:36.300 Now, with with systems like LifeLock, they have this proprietary technology.

01:11:41.420 They do things like how long has it taken you to put in your password?

01:11:46.360 All these different things that they are monitoring, you know, where did you if you were on one site where you and you got to this site to buy it?

01:11:55.680 Is that fit into the pattern of what sites you're normally on?

01:11:59.440 I mean, it's crazy stuff now that can be done to make sure that it's you and nobody is stealing your identity.

01:12:06.140 And if somebody does, they're there to fix it.

01:12:09.380 They have a U.S.-based identity restoration specialist that will work to fix it.

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01:12:29.960 Glenn Beck.

01:12:36.140 There's two articles that I read this morning that I thought were really, really good.

01:12:48.160 Both came out earlier this week and late last.

01:12:52.300 New York Daily News.

01:12:53.640 Panic is not the answer.

01:12:54.980 We're at imminent risk of turning this hashtag Me Too movement into a frenzied rush to blame old men.

01:13:02.080 Then there's another one from media.

01:13:04.560 It's time to man up.

01:13:06.140 From Carly Fiorina.

01:13:08.700 A hundred years ago, American women were jailed, beaten, tortured, force-fed, all because they believed they had the right to vote. 0.94

01:13:15.680 A hundred years later, we can factually demonstrate that American women are the most educated, liberated, empowered, and powerful women in all of human history.

01:13:23.640 And yet, a hundred years later, we wake up daily to new revelations of sexual harassment and abuse visited on women and girls by powerful, successful, admired men in all walks of American life.

01:13:36.560 Politicians, executives, coaches, athletes, artists, moguls, and the men of cloth.

01:13:41.200 In every case, women bravely stepped forward.

01:13:44.280 In virtually every case as well.

01:13:45.820 Their stories have been corroborated and verified.

01:13:48.520 Let's get real.

01:13:51.600 No one is shocked.

01:13:54.140 Women are not. 1.00

01:13:55.940 And men are not.

01:13:57.220 I am.

01:14:03.360 I am.

01:14:04.820 And maybe I'm just really naive.

01:14:07.760 But I'd like to get into this tomorrow.

01:14:10.800 I'd like to talk to you about this.

01:14:12.280 I want to read her whole article to you.

01:14:15.360 And maybe we'll see if Carly can come on tomorrow to explain it. 0.56

01:14:19.480 But maybe I'm just a dummy.

01:14:23.000 But I am shocked by the amount.

01:14:27.820 Are you still?

01:14:30.260 Definitely.

01:14:31.080 I mean, as far as how it's dominated the news cycle for several months.

01:14:34.860 I mean, it's like so many people.

01:14:36.700 I mean, Charlie.

01:14:37.920 Charlie Rose.

01:14:39.500 Yeah.

01:14:40.060 I mean, just all of these people, one after another, after another.

01:14:45.680 I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if it was happening in Washington, D.C.

01:14:51.280 And it doesn't surprise me that much.

01:14:53.540 And it is happening in Washington, D.C.

01:14:55.240 By the way, millions of your tax dollars have gone to fund these settlements.

01:14:58.740 Right.

01:14:59.160 But is this an epidemic?

01:15:01.180 Is this happening all over the country?

01:15:03.480 And I want to specifically ask the women in our audience to participate on tomorrow's program. 0.84

01:15:08.420 Glenn Beck.

01:15:10.060 They will come to know the truth.

01:15:24.740 Dad murdered democracy in cold blood.

01:15:28.620 That was what was written on a sign outside of the home of the FCC chairman over Thanksgiving weekend.

01:15:36.780 He he should have been home with his family, the chairman of the FCC, enjoying the holiday, just enjoying it.

01:15:45.300 But instead, he was subjected to protesters with apparently nothing better to do than stand outside of his home with harassing signs and send pizzas to his door every hour, which actually sounds pretty good.

01:15:56.980 I mean, I just I just I just want to point that part out.

01:15:59.640 That's that's kind of a good deal.

01:16:01.160 Best protest ever.

01:16:02.320 It really is.

01:16:03.700 But who does this on a Thanksgiving weekend?

01:16:06.780 Apparently, people who are insanely mad that the chairman of the FCC sent an order to terminate most of the net neutrality regulations set in place by the former FCC commissioner.

01:16:18.620 Attacking attacking attacking, attacking a family is not activism.

01:16:24.580 This is terrorizing a family.

01:16:26.800 I would bet that the protesters didn't even really understand net neutrality in the first place.

01:16:32.920 Net neutrality does not guarantee a free and open Internet for all.

01:16:38.540 The regulations don't benefit the average man.

01:16:42.320 It is always like this.

01:16:45.880 The regulation was drawn up by Google.

01:16:50.040 They benefit Google.

01:16:52.280 And that's about it.

01:16:53.520 Enforcing net neutrality does the exact opposite of what the proponents claim.

01:17:00.160 It results in an Internet where a handful of large corporations have access to peering agreements with the fast lane and the rest of us are subject to far fewer options.

01:17:12.520 So here's some free advice before, you know, you go out and protest somebody before harassing a family.

01:17:20.260 You should know something about the subject that you're protesting, you know, consider staying inside and researching the topic and having an intelligent conversation over Turkey with your family and friends.

01:17:33.540 But if you ever find yourself in this situation and you want to send free pizza to a home, you can send it to my house.

01:17:41.680 You know, most families don't impact people over multiple generations.

01:18:11.680 As much as this family has impacted our world in one and two generations, Steve and Jackie Green join us.

01:18:23.240 They're the founding family of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.

01:18:26.720 And the author of this dangerous book, how the Bible shaped our world and while it's why it still matters today.

01:18:33.700 Steve and Jackie, welcome.

01:18:36.060 Thank you, Glenn.

01:18:36.880 It's good to be here.

01:18:38.440 So I was just in a hobby lobby over the weekend and we were talking as a family.

01:18:46.480 And one of my older children was there and we were talking about the Museum of the Bible and they and she said, how did this all begin, dad?

01:18:57.620 How did how did this how did this happen?

01:19:00.420 And I said, well, I know Hobby Lobby started with, you know, frames in a garage and the family just kind of grew up in it.

01:19:08.620 But Steve and Jackie, how did the Bible part of it start?

01:19:15.400 Well, for me, it started at home before Hobby Lobby ever started.

01:19:20.000 My parents grew up in a Christian home.

01:19:22.260 My grandfather was a minister himself.

01:19:25.520 My dad's dad.

01:19:26.380 And, you know, my parents took us to church and taught us to love God's word and follow his ways in our lives and in our family.

01:19:36.420 And so we we just that was part of our our life.

01:19:40.540 And my wife was the same.

01:19:42.220 She grew up in a Christian home as well.

01:19:44.260 And the Bible just been a part of our life from when when we were born.

01:19:51.080 So, Jackie, you guys have a remarkable family and you have seen what money usually does to a family.

01:20:04.040 I just read a book.

01:20:07.300 I can't remember the name of it, but it was about J.

01:20:09.820 Paul Getty and his family and how the money just destroyed them.

01:20:16.200 What is it that keeps your family on the track?

01:20:22.000 Well, I think, first of all, I would just say, you know, God helps us to to realize and remember that everything we have, we've given to him and he gave to us and we just give it back to him.

01:20:35.060 And so our blessings come from above.

01:20:37.680 But and there's great joy in and realizing that, you know, we don't really have all the ownership, that it really belongs to to God.

01:20:44.340 And so being a family of faith, thankfully, we we have a family that everyone has embraced their own faith and embraces the teachings of the Bible for themselves.

01:20:56.500 And I think that's paramount in where we are today.

01:20:59.400 Have you do you think you could have done you?

01:21:02.120 Do you guys think you could have accomplished just as a family?

01:21:05.340 I don't even mean business just as a family.

01:21:07.440 Do you guys think you could have accomplished what you've accomplished if you lived in New York City?

01:21:16.360 I don't know.

01:21:17.800 I mean, I think God can do anything anywhere, but it would be we would have different challenges.

01:21:22.340 Of course, we live in a great part of the country in the Bible Belt.

01:21:26.040 And, you know, it's a great place to raise a family and to, you know, work hard and run a business.

01:21:32.320 So we are you know, we were talking as we were walking through Hobby Lobby and and we were talking about the museum of the Bible.

01:21:40.720 And and my daughter said, why wouldn't they build it where people would want to go see it?

01:21:46.920 I mean, it's in Washington, D.C.

01:21:48.680 Nobody wants the Bible.

01:21:49.820 And I said, I think that's the point.

01:21:52.260 What's the what's the reaction that you guys have seen?

01:21:55.660 Well, when we first started looking, we were actually looking in your your town in Dallas.

01:22:03.260 And then I wanted to open up and say, well, what if God doesn't want in Dallas?

01:22:07.900 And when I look at the top 10 metros, the other two that stood out to me was New York City in Washington, D.C.

01:22:14.060 And we did a survey.

01:22:15.220 The survey showed it would be best attended in D.C., which which really makes sense because that's the hub of museums in our country for museum goers go.

01:22:24.500 And so we just feel like that God knew best that this facility that we acquired was a great location, just two blocks from one of the most attended museums in our country.

01:22:38.400 And that it was the right place for us to be.

01:22:43.280 Some kind of chided us thinking that, you know, our intent is to impact politics.

01:22:48.800 And, of course, I'm sitting here thinking, well, who isn't in this town to impact politics?

01:22:53.380 And what would be wrong if that was our motive?

01:22:56.420 But it was it was really because this is where it'd be best attended.

01:23:00.700 A lot of visitors here are international.

01:23:02.640 It will have an international impact.

01:23:05.900 And we just think that our legislators ought to know the foundation of our nation and its biblical roots.

01:23:14.020 And hopefully they they would come in and impact them as well.

01:23:18.400 Are you surprised at the number of people in Washington that they really have no clue as to our real heritage?

01:23:28.120 Yeah, you know, I think that that is a sad commentary, not just here, but in our nation is the lack of understanding of the biblical influence.

01:23:41.080 The Bible had on our founders and how that it shaped our nation, our freedoms, our economy, our government.

01:23:51.580 It just had a huge impact.

01:23:54.040 And I think we probably know it less today than ever, partly because we don't teach the Bible in our schools like we once did.

01:24:01.340 And so there is a great need to educate America on the Bible's impact on our world.

01:24:08.220 How do you how do you do that with I mean, even Christopher Hitchens, you know, who was was a huge atheist?

01:24:15.820 He said, if you want to understand Western culture, you must understand the Bible.

01:24:22.360 You won't understand Shakespeare if you haven't read the Bible.

01:24:26.500 You know, it is the cornerstone.

01:24:28.800 And he said that it should be taught as as literary in a literary class.

01:24:34.820 But you're not going to get that now.

01:24:38.780 How do we make this shift?

01:24:41.560 Well, I and he's not the only even Richard Dawkins in his book, The God Delusion, says something very similar.

01:24:47.740 He said that to be literate, to culturally literate, you need to know it.

01:24:51.240 And he lists over 100 examples of phrases just in our everyday language.

01:24:56.460 It comes from the Bible.

01:24:58.280 Good Samaritan, eye for an eye, tooth for tooth and so forth.

01:25:01.060 So even they recognize to be educated within our world, you need to know this book because it's had such an impact.

01:25:10.280 And that's one of the reasons why we have taken the position in the museum of not espousing our faith.

01:25:15.760 We're just teaching the facts of the book because we are interested in having a curriculum to educate students in our schools about the Bible in a non-sectarian way,

01:25:26.980 not espousing faith, just teaching the facts of this book, because we agree with Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins that it ought to be part of our educational system.

01:25:36.420 The name of the book that you guys have just put out is This Dangerous Book, and I look at what's happening in the Middle East.

01:25:48.120 People won't recognize that the group of people that are probably rivaling the first century that are under attack now more than anybody else are Christians, and it is for that dangerous book. 1.00

01:26:08.020 They seem to—I know you guys travel all over the world.

01:26:13.620 The people that I have met in the Middle East have a very different view of their responsibility as a Christian to that book and to those words and to their faith than I think most Americans do.

01:26:27.680 Yeah, in our nation, it is just easy, and I think that as a society starts down a path of persecuting Christians,

01:26:40.900 it really separates those that are serious about their faith and those that are just pretending.

01:26:46.620 And it's easy to pretend to have a faith and attend church from time to time,

01:26:52.180 but there are parts of our world where it's a life-and-death situation if a person wants to follow the principles of this book.

01:27:00.520 And part of why we call it This Dangerous Book, we talk about those in the past that have given their life because of their love for this book.

01:27:08.880 And it's no different today.

01:27:10.700 I understand there's probably more people that are suffering for their faith today than ever before,

01:27:16.140 because it's a challenging world, and there are people that love this book, and there are people that hate it.

01:27:23.360 And it shows up in our news from time to time.

01:27:26.940 Jackie, you talk a lot in the book about something I think Christians have a difficult time with, as I think everybody does,

01:27:33.360 which is tithing and giving your money away.

01:27:37.440 And it's not just about being charitable.

01:27:39.640 It's also about leading with the charity, giving that money away first, giving the money to God first.

01:27:46.240 Can you talk about that a little bit?

01:27:48.920 Well, sure.

01:27:50.500 Yeah, I think as a family that we, as I mentioned earlier, we do feel like that our blessings come from God.

01:27:57.060 And, you know, when you realize that, when you know that in your heart,

01:28:01.580 it makes it a lot easier to understand that we also, you know, we're taught in the Bible to give to take care of the widow,

01:28:09.720 the orphan, and to help those in need and feed the hungry and, you know, clothing and that sort of thing.

01:28:17.420 And I think when you embrace the principles taught in the Bible, it becomes much easier to do that,

01:28:22.340 recognizing that everything we have is from God.

01:28:25.380 And we share some of that.

01:28:27.300 We share some of our other personal experiences with the Bible in our book,

01:28:31.460 and we look at the impact of the Bible and its influence in our world and our culture every day, all around us.

01:28:37.320 And then, you know, we feel like it's important for people to understand and be encouraged to read the Bible

01:28:44.300 and learn more about it, because it's the best-selling book of all time, consistently, year after year.

01:28:48.880 Yeah, you're right.

01:28:49.780 Even more than Harry Potter.

01:28:51.080 That's confirmed.

01:28:51.920 No, no, no.

01:28:52.560 Listen to this.

01:28:53.420 This is in the book.

01:28:54.820 I love this.

01:28:57.300 Let's see.

01:28:58.180 Da Vinci Code, C.S. Lewis, Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe, estimated about 80 million each.

01:29:05.860 Don Quixote, 150 million.

01:29:08.880 Catcher in the Rye, 65 million.

01:29:10.940 Black Beauty, 50 million.

01:29:12.980 Harry Potter, 100 million, along with a little princess, 100 million.

01:29:17.860 Tolkien, Lord of the Rings, 150 million copies.

01:29:21.100 The Bible is estimated to be 5 billion copies.

01:29:26.180 Five billion.

01:29:28.540 Seems like it deserves a museum.

01:29:30.680 It really does.

01:29:32.900 Well, and some have said, you know, why now?

01:29:35.720 And, of course, more times you get the question, why hasn't this been done before?

01:29:40.340 I think we have the best material of any museum here in D.C.

01:29:44.340 Because this book has impacted our world, unlike anything else.

01:29:49.000 So its story needs to be told.

01:29:51.380 And that's why we wanted to tell it in a state-of-the-art, first-class museum.

01:29:57.840 And I appreciate the book that you guys have just put out, too, because it talks about your personal life.

01:30:03.020 I'm fascinated by how grounded your family is.

01:30:06.580 And you talk about, you know, you talk about the adoption in your family and just a lot of stuff that I can really relate to.

01:30:14.720 And I appreciate you sharing the personal side as well.

01:30:20.240 Thank you so much.

01:30:21.080 Thank you.

01:30:22.040 God bless, guys.

01:30:22.900 Well, and one of those is just that we feel like it was providential.

01:30:28.160 And our founders in this nation felt the same thing time and time again.

01:30:32.380 They just felt like God was in the middle of it.

01:30:34.380 And we feel that with this museum and our adoption.

01:30:37.540 And those are some of the stories that we share.

01:30:39.860 Thank you, guys.

01:30:40.820 God bless you.

01:30:41.320 Have a good holiday.

01:30:44.720 This Dangerous Book, How the Bible Has Shaped Our World and Why It Still Matters Today by Steve and Jackie Green.

01:30:53.700 You may know them from Hobby Lobby.

01:30:55.400 It's a, I mean, what they're doing with this museum, they're remarkable people.

01:31:00.180 And what they're doing is really important.

01:31:02.420 If someone doesn't set, you know, these principles and really kind of put them in stone,

01:31:07.940 they really need to be back in basically tablet form at this point.

01:31:11.160 And imagine competing against museums in Washington, D.C.

01:31:15.480 I mean, you're going up against the Smithsonian.

01:31:19.580 Wow.

01:31:20.140 You better not roll out a bad museum.

01:31:22.760 And this is a stunning museum.

01:31:25.160 And it's, I mean, what they have done, you know, just literally from building frames in their garage in the 1970s to expanding Hobby Lobby to taking on the government and the Supreme Court on we're not offering abortion in our health care plan.

01:31:50.460 Or we'll pay the fine every day.

01:31:52.060 Every day.

01:31:52.940 Yeah, it's interesting because you see, here's a family, and you've talked to them more than, you know, than I have just in brief interviews.

01:31:58.660 You've talked to them at more length.

01:31:59.860 But it's, this is a family that has a location of their store in basically everybody's town.

01:32:05.200 And what they're doing now is what they consider their life's work.

01:32:09.280 Oh, yeah.

01:32:09.700 I mean, you know, Hobby Lobby, they're great.

01:32:12.100 They do a great job.

01:32:13.280 You know, they've done a lot of important things.

01:32:15.200 But what they're doing now is really they're setting up a long-term legacy.

01:32:18.940 And I know them, and their true life work is their family, and it is their best work.

01:32:25.240 Their children are amazing.

01:32:29.500 Absolutely amazing.

01:32:32.920 Read the book, This Dangerous Book by Steve and Jackie Green, available everywhere.

01:32:37.320 And I know it is also available at Hobby Lobby because I saw it there over the weekend.

01:32:43.540 Getting a good night's sleep is easier said than done, especially if you hear a noise downstairs.

01:32:47.740 What do you do in that situation?

01:32:49.340 I know what I do.

01:32:50.760 Somebody was talking to me about we had a laser firing range here in the studios a couple weeks ago.

01:32:58.540 And they were like, I was feeling pretty good about myself until you stood up, and then you took it.

01:33:03.800 And I'm a very good shot, so I know exactly what I'm going to do if I hear a sound.

01:33:09.340 Almost the only thing that you're good at.

01:33:11.240 It is.

01:33:11.640 It really is.

01:33:12.780 It's really incredible.

01:33:13.740 It really is.

01:33:14.080 I mean, we were at the range the other day.

01:33:16.100 We were making a video with your attachment to your AR-15.

01:33:19.600 It was impressive.

01:33:20.700 Yeah, no, that wasn't.

01:33:21.840 No, that wasn't.

01:33:22.600 I mean, I went up skeet shooting this weekend, 29 out of 29.

01:33:28.480 I mean, it was good.

01:33:29.700 I mean, it's good.

01:33:30.780 It's the only thing.

01:33:31.880 I wish I could make money at it.

01:33:33.640 But if you come into my house, I'm not sleeping with one eye open.

01:33:39.220 I have an alarm system.

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01:34:35.340 So the Victoria's Secrets fashion show is on tonight.

01:34:39.820 My question is, how?

01:34:43.540 In this environment?

01:34:44.540 In this environment.

01:34:46.360 How is that not objectifying women? 1.00

01:34:49.240 Well, because you would never look at their breasts. 1.00

01:34:52.260 Oh, you'd never look at them as a sexual...

01:34:54.160 No.

01:34:54.720 Because we found out yesterday, I think, what, 50 or 60% of millennials believe looking at breasts would be sexual harassment. 0.99

01:35:00.700 And clearly, that never occurs to these millennials who are walking down the stage in no clothing.

01:35:06.540 I mean...

01:35:06.880 That never occurs.

01:35:07.600 Seriously.

01:35:08.620 How is this not objectifying women? 1.00

01:35:11.760 I mean, I don't have a problem with it.

01:35:13.420 Well, because they're doing it on their own, right?

01:35:16.940 I guess is the line.

01:35:18.720 I guess they're strong, powerful women. 1.00

01:35:20.680 It's funny.

01:35:21.120 But am I supposed to notice that they're beautiful?

01:35:23.480 No.

01:35:24.060 No.

01:35:24.820 I mean, absolutely.

01:35:25.660 How does that work?

01:35:26.420 You bastard.

01:35:27.400 How dare you?

01:35:28.040 How dare you?

01:35:29.120 Exactly right.

01:35:30.100 Notice that.

01:35:30.740 Exactly right.

01:35:35.080 Glenn Beck.

01:35:44.720 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:35:48.080 Pat Gray joins us from Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:35:51.840 He's telling me that he's going to be watching the Victoria's Secret thing tonight,

01:35:58.380 just for the articles.

01:35:59.700 Yeah.

01:36:00.020 And I appreciate that.

01:36:02.720 They have really good articles.

01:36:04.220 They do, don't they?

01:36:05.340 Yeah.

01:36:05.800 I haven't even noticed...

01:36:07.020 Thoughtful.

01:36:07.480 I haven't even noticed anything else.

01:36:08.940 I thought their commentary on the trade imbalance with China was really interesting.

01:36:13.280 That's why I'm watching.

01:36:14.420 Yeah.

01:36:14.820 That's why I'm watching.

01:36:15.400 Yeah.

01:36:15.640 I need that perspective.

01:36:16.700 Right.

01:36:17.200 Strong women.

01:36:18.240 Mm-hmm.

01:36:18.620 Strong women.

01:36:19.740 Mm-hmm.

01:36:20.200 Intelligent women. 1.00

01:36:21.320 Intelligent women. 1.00

01:36:22.200 I don't think they talk to them, do they?

01:36:24.800 No.

01:36:25.320 Women who are empowered.

01:36:27.420 Yes.

01:36:27.780 Women who are empowered to walk in lingerie. 0.80

01:36:31.880 In lingerie and heels.

01:36:32.880 Yes.

01:36:33.320 I mean, that's...

01:36:34.260 But you have to look for the deeper meanings, too.

01:36:36.100 Oh! 0.60

01:36:36.640 You have to look for the deeper meanings.

01:36:37.800 There's no doubt about it.

01:36:39.060 Yeah.

01:36:39.180 I always assume there's a deeper meaning.

01:36:40.880 I don't always pick it up.

01:36:41.660 You know what?

01:36:42.060 Pat, I know that...

01:36:43.440 I, of course, know the deeper meaning.

01:36:45.520 But I'd like you to explain that...

01:36:47.280 I don't want to insult...

01:36:48.280 I don't want to insult the intelligence of our audience.

01:36:49.660 No, I mean, I think it would be...

01:36:51.060 I think it would be...

01:36:51.780 Who is so well aware of the deeper meaning.

01:36:53.320 Yeah.

01:36:53.960 You know, of...

01:36:55.920 Of...

01:36:56.720 Of, you know, women walking in lingerie. 0.93

01:36:59.840 Right.

01:37:00.480 In heels.

01:37:01.060 In heels.

01:37:01.840 Right.

01:37:02.440 Is it possible that the deeper...

01:37:03.400 It's a good look.

01:37:03.920 The deeper meaning is the secret?

01:37:06.000 Like, Victoria has a secret, and perhaps the secret is the deeper meaning.

01:37:09.580 I think clearly, yeah.

01:37:10.280 That we never actually...

01:37:11.420 How the underpants empower you.

01:37:14.440 They do.

01:37:15.520 Yeah.

01:37:16.020 My understanding is the less clothing you wear, the more empowered you are.

01:37:19.900 There's a ratio to that.

01:37:20.900 I don't believe that is a current idea.

01:37:24.880 It seems to be.

01:37:26.240 Yeah.

01:37:26.780 Watch network television tonight, and they will point it out for you.

01:37:31.060 What is it, ABC that airs that thing?

01:37:32.740 I don't know.

01:37:33.580 I do not know.

01:37:34.400 I've never watched that.

01:37:35.200 I've never watched it either.

01:37:36.600 Me neither, guys.

01:37:38.160 Well, I've never watched it, because I'm married.

01:37:40.080 I think, actually, there are women who watch that show, for whatever reason. 1.00

01:37:44.340 Really?

01:37:44.720 Yes.

01:37:45.120 My wife has flipped it on before.

01:37:47.200 Has she really?

01:37:47.740 Yeah.

01:37:48.100 I think there's a...

01:37:49.920 You know, where do beauty magazines get sold all the time, right? 1.00

01:37:53.840 What's in them?

01:37:54.440 Yeah.

01:37:54.660 A bunch of women wearing no clothing. 0.99

01:37:56.460 They're not sold to men, generally speaking.

01:37:58.400 I mean, Cosmo doesn't go to dudes.

01:38:00.840 That's true.

01:38:02.140 There is a comparative analysis.

01:38:04.340 There must be a market for it.

01:38:04.800 I've never asked my wife.

01:38:06.060 We should call my wife.

01:38:07.460 You should call my wife.

01:38:08.340 Ask her.

01:38:08.720 Let's watch that tonight.

01:38:10.540 See what she said.

01:38:11.780 I think it's a fair question.

01:38:14.500 What?

01:38:15.260 You know?

01:38:16.260 Will she watch it with you as a family event?

01:38:18.980 You know?

01:38:19.220 It's Christmas.

01:38:19.480 As a family event.

01:38:20.380 It is Christmas.

01:38:21.680 It's coming up on Christmas.

01:38:21.700 It's the holiday.

01:38:22.380 You know?

01:38:22.920 I mean, it's a really good way to do some shopping, right?

01:38:26.340 I mean, you're buying for your wife.

01:38:28.460 I mean, she might enjoy some of the items.

01:38:30.420 Sure.

01:38:31.100 There.

01:38:31.460 That's all my wife is asking for, is Victoria's Secret Laundry. 1.00

01:38:34.820 That's all she wants.

01:38:35.480 Really?

01:38:35.740 See?

01:38:36.240 Right there.

01:38:36.820 That proves it.

01:38:37.400 That's all she's really ever wanted.

01:38:39.760 Yeah.

01:38:40.220 You know?

01:38:40.500 Yeah.

01:38:40.960 And it's not a gift for you.

01:38:42.160 It's for her.

01:38:42.680 Not for me at all.

01:38:43.560 Yeah.

01:38:44.360 She just loves it.

01:38:45.240 Uh-huh.

01:38:46.720 Okay.

01:38:47.260 I think that's how she does housework. 1.00

01:38:48.180 I just try to.

01:38:49.340 In the heels.

01:38:50.220 Mm-hmm.

01:38:50.660 Yeah.

01:38:51.060 Mm-hmm.

01:38:51.360 I'm just trying to figure out how this works in today's world, but why expect any kind

01:38:57.440 of consistency?

01:38:58.480 Yeah.

01:38:58.500 There shouldn't be any.

01:38:59.880 Anywhere.

01:39:01.140 We had kind of an interesting day with Donald Trump and Pocahontas. 0.97

01:39:07.960 That's a really bad day.

01:39:10.220 First of all, the Pocahontas thing. 0.99

01:39:12.620 I wasn't as worried about that as I was holding the event to honor the Code Talkers in front

01:39:20.940 of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.

01:39:23.560 That's so good.

01:39:24.760 What?

01:39:25.200 What was that?

01:39:26.560 Who made that decision?

01:39:28.240 Amen.

01:39:28.600 Hey, let's do it in the Andrew Jackson room.

01:39:30.600 No.

01:39:30.800 Not like that.

01:39:31.500 No.

01:39:31.700 You know what that is?

01:39:32.580 That is.

01:39:33.320 That was.

01:39:33.840 That's a complete lack of.

01:39:34.780 That was Bannon who put that painting in the Oval Office.

01:39:40.500 Yeah, but you can't.

01:39:41.480 You can't.

01:39:42.620 You got to remove that when you have.

01:39:44.120 Do you think he knows?

01:39:45.280 That's like honoring white farmers in Zimbabwe in front of a mural of Robert Mugabe.

01:39:53.020 It's like, yeah, this is the guy that took all your farms.

01:39:56.560 Right.

01:39:57.240 Here he is.

01:39:58.180 Have fun.

01:40:01.160 This is a great day for farming in Zimbabwe.

01:40:04.780 Yeah.

01:40:05.260 You like that?

01:40:05.840 You like the Mugabe?

01:40:07.240 It's a.

01:40:07.620 We just had the mural done.

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.240 What are you even thinking?

01:40:10.740 They're not thinking.

01:40:11.340 They're not thinking.

01:40:12.080 They're not thinking.

01:40:12.740 They're not thinking.

01:40:13.320 They're not paying attention.

01:40:14.620 Andrew Jackson.

01:40:15.600 Andrew Jackson's painting should not even be anywhere near the Oval Office.

01:40:20.080 I mean, he was such a bad, bad guy.

01:40:23.480 Well, he was nicknamed the Indian Killer and Sharp Knife.

01:40:27.080 So.

01:40:27.760 So wait, what are you saying there?

01:40:29.180 I don't understand.

01:40:29.600 Put his portrait up so we can honor the Code Talkers. 1.00

01:40:33.180 But hang on.

01:40:33.900 Hang on.

01:40:34.460 Just a second.

01:40:35.520 Hang on.

01:40:36.020 Just a second.

01:40:36.700 Unreal.

01:40:37.860 Sharp Knife was only shivving the Indians. 0.97

01:40:42.360 That's only.

01:40:42.900 Yeah.

01:40:43.020 Right.

01:40:43.280 For the land.

01:40:43.940 Right.

01:40:44.320 Okay.

01:40:44.880 And that wasn't for the country.

01:40:46.580 It was so he could become rich.

01:40:48.620 True.

01:40:49.220 You know, he was poor when he entered the Oval Office and was the wealthiest man in the

01:40:53.600 country when he left the office, mainly because he shivved people for their land.

01:40:58.400 So you're saying he was an entrepreneur.

01:41:00.620 No.

01:41:01.420 No.

01:41:02.360 No.

01:41:02.720 No.

01:41:03.020 No.

01:41:03.460 Sharp Knife?

01:41:04.300 No.

01:41:05.160 Indian Killer? 0.98

01:41:06.120 No.

01:41:06.520 That's not it.

01:41:08.100 That is a bizarre moment there.

01:41:10.000 Yeah, it is.

01:41:10.620 And then you have to like the mental trick that happens in Trump's mind where he's standing

01:41:14.240 in front of Native Americans slash, you know, Indians, as we used to say. 0.97

01:41:18.240 And he thinks, I know one thing about Indians.

01:41:21.740 Pocahontas is Elizabeth Warren.

01:41:23.260 Like, it's like the one thing he knows.

01:41:25.320 So he just has to throw it out there.

01:41:26.880 So and it was so awkward for them because they obviously couldn't hear what he was saying

01:41:31.720 or something because you just looked at me, saw they had no recollection of what he

01:41:35.480 was saying.

01:41:36.760 And, you know, and he was like, hey, you know, we've got a Pocahontas here. 0.98

01:41:40.960 And they kind of looked at him like, I don't think they knew.

01:41:43.000 They had no idea.

01:41:44.240 They're not.

01:41:45.020 And to be used as a backdrop for something like that with Jackson behind them is just

01:41:53.280 an embarrassment.

01:41:55.460 It's a different thing, though, too.

01:41:56.880 Like the Jackson thing.

01:41:57.920 He doesn't know.

01:41:58.900 He doesn't know or care about that.

01:42:00.380 That's something.

01:42:00.880 No, but I don't think when it shows that I also don't think he knows that that's not

01:42:04.180 cool.

01:42:04.720 You know what?

01:42:05.380 Donald Trump has has a lot in common with our grandparents.

01:42:10.700 And I've told this story before, but it's the best story.

01:42:14.420 My grandfather in this is in, you know, 1970, I don't know, two or three, something like

01:42:20.320 that.

01:42:21.160 He's trying to make sure that, you know, I don't become racist.

01:42:25.060 And, you know, we're not racist in our family.

01:42:27.480 Good lesson.

01:42:28.160 Good lesson.

01:42:28.880 It's how he got there.

01:42:30.380 You know, he was he was a guy who lived through the Great Depression, born in what?

01:42:35.480 1903.

01:42:36.620 And he said, no matter what anybody tells you.

01:42:40.780 Coloreds are exactly like you. 0.99

01:42:43.880 I'm like, even like eight.

01:42:45.640 I'm thinking, I don't think colors is the right word, grandpa.

01:42:49.240 But I mean, it's kind of like that with Donald Trump.

01:42:52.520 He has.

01:42:53.340 I don't think he knows how offensive just saying Pocahontas is again.

01:42:58.660 Not malicious at all.

01:43:00.300 I don't think so.

01:43:01.000 You know, I mean, I don't think the Andrew Jackson thing is malicious.

01:43:03.880 I don't think the Pocahontas thing is malicious.

01:43:06.140 They just don't know.

01:43:07.160 He just doesn't know.

01:43:08.200 He doesn't think that way.

01:43:09.580 He's getting through the moment.

01:43:10.920 I mean, if you're never going to get a statesman out of Donald Trump, that's not what he does.

01:43:15.360 That's what people didn't want.

01:43:16.700 Right.

01:43:16.960 They didn't want a statesman.

01:43:18.080 They didn't want a politician.

01:43:19.420 They didn't want somebody who has experience in this stuff.

01:43:22.180 They wanted him.

01:43:23.340 They wanted this guy, the guy who will honor the code talkers, the Navajo code talkers in

01:43:28.260 front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.

01:43:30.760 That's what people wanted.

01:43:31.920 Is Pocahontas a racial slur, however?

01:43:34.740 I don't think so.

01:43:35.360 No, I don't think.

01:43:36.700 No, I think if you call.

01:43:38.220 It's mocking Elizabeth Warren because she doesn't really have Indian and if you are if you 0.93

01:43:43.420 are saying if you're saying, you know, anyone who calls themselves Indian Pocahontas, it 0.64

01:43:49.020 is a racial racial slur.

01:43:50.380 If if she was Native American, which I don't believe she is. 0.99

01:43:55.100 Right.

01:43:55.320 But if she was Native American, you know, then saying, oh, yeah, a little Pocahontas over 0.98

01:44:00.100 here, absolutely a racial slur.

01:44:02.000 Yeah.

01:44:02.140 If you use it in that context, it when she is trying to say, I am a Native American and

01:44:07.120 she's not and she's not.

01:44:08.820 I don't think that's a racial slur.

01:44:10.420 No, it's not.

01:44:11.120 If she's not.

01:44:11.840 It's just a slur against Elizabeth.

01:44:14.020 Yeah.

01:44:14.360 Yes.

01:44:15.120 You're a fraud.

01:44:15.960 Yeah.

01:44:16.520 Yeah.

01:44:16.780 We have, you know, me smoke them fraud.

01:44:21.180 I mean, you know, it's that level, which is a line you wouldn't want to say to the Navajos

01:44:25.400 either.

01:44:25.820 Yes.

01:44:26.660 Right.

01:44:27.060 No, I'm trying to bring it down to the level of what he could have said.

01:44:31.940 We should we should all breathe a sigh of relief that he only said Pocahontas.

01:44:36.380 Yes.

01:44:37.220 And that he didn't greet them with how?

01:44:39.760 Yes.

01:44:40.260 That would have been that would have been bad.

01:44:42.340 That would have been bad.

01:44:43.060 People ask me all the time.

01:44:44.240 How I bet they say the same thing to you.

01:44:46.740 Oh, my God.

01:44:51.920 I've been thinking.

01:44:53.040 Why?

01:44:54.600 Right, chief?

01:44:55.740 It's like a really bad Indian Avenue Costello routine. 0.97

01:45:01.160 You could almost see him doing it, though, couldn't you?

01:45:03.540 You could.

01:45:04.020 You could have seen that.

01:45:05.280 And he doesn't care about that.

01:45:06.420 He doesn't care.

01:45:07.060 And I was the Andrew Jackson thing, I think, is a much more interesting observation than what

01:45:12.680 the media is going to.

01:45:13.660 Because that's not Donald Trump to Pocahontas.

01:45:15.260 Yeah, which is there's somebody, nobody.

01:45:17.180 I know.

01:45:17.900 Nobody in that White House said, hey, you know what?

01:45:20.000 This is really insensitive.

01:45:21.560 This is the guy who was called Indian killer.

01:45:24.680 This is maybe we don't, you know, have this up in the background.

01:45:28.080 I don't know.

01:45:29.180 Yeah.

01:45:29.360 This is the guy who broke every treaty ever made with the Indians.

01:45:32.740 Yeah.

01:45:32.940 Virtually.

01:45:33.440 And took their land.

01:45:34.700 The fact that he made a joke that he made on the campaign trail a million times about

01:45:41.140 Elizabeth Warren, you know, there's something about saying it in front of code talkers.

01:45:45.360 No, I know.

01:45:45.880 Look, it's not the appropriate venue.

01:45:47.220 But again, that is not what you're going to get out of Donald Trump.

01:45:49.780 That is not what he does.

01:45:50.840 Right.

01:45:51.160 It was not.

01:45:52.020 He's as advertised on that.

01:45:54.080 He's going to say what he says.

01:45:55.300 He's going to make his jokes.

01:45:57.080 And you can't be offended every time Donald Trump makes a joke.

01:46:01.080 You can't.

01:46:01.560 No.

01:46:01.840 The Andrew Jackson thing is like, all right, that you probably.

01:46:05.680 Somebody in the White House should have noticed.

01:46:07.120 Somebody.

01:46:07.720 Somebody.

01:46:08.300 That's probably somebody.

01:46:09.080 Something should have caught.

01:46:09.720 But that White House doesn't think Andrew Jackson was a problem.

01:46:12.380 I mean, you know, remember, you hang their favorite president.

01:46:15.580 Yeah.

01:46:16.000 You hang portraits in the oval that you're trying to emulate.

01:46:19.240 And he wants to emulate Andrew Jackson, which wouldn't work out well for any of us if

01:46:25.180 that were to be.

01:46:26.400 Those Code Talkers are on their way to Oklahoma right now if he's trying to emulate Andrew

01:46:30.540 Jackson.

01:46:31.560 Yeah.

01:46:31.980 Walking.

01:46:34.100 It's not a good walk either.

01:46:36.020 Not good.

01:46:36.480 Not good.

01:46:37.080 No.

01:46:38.500 Maybe Pocahontas will help. 1.00

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01:47:50.580 No, they've happened in our day.

01:47:51.960 I know, but they never really see.

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01:49:14.060 All this week at 5 o'clock, the Blackboard is unpacking the deep state.

01:49:19.340 It's something you might hear a lot of talk about or read about, the deep state.

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01:49:25.180 What is it?

01:49:26.460 There's two kinds of deep state, and we break that down for you.

01:49:30.680 We do have a deep state, but not the kind of deep state that I think most conspiracy theorists would like to believe that we have.

01:49:39.000 But we have a very dangerous deep state.

01:49:41.000 We'll explain that all this week at 5 o'clock.

01:49:44.460 We're also doing something, playing back some of my favorite interviews that we have done also on the Blaze TV.

01:49:52.600 And last night was Eric Schmidt from Google.

01:49:58.440 Eric had written a book where he was really talking about Ray Kurzweil and praising him.

01:50:06.200 And Ray works for Google, or did at the time.

01:50:09.520 And Eric seemed to disagree with his own book.

01:50:13.180 We were talking about life.

01:50:15.060 And how do you define life?

01:50:17.860 Now, this is in 2014.

01:50:20.560 This seems ancient to me now.

01:50:24.520 This is close to something we have to discuss right now.

01:50:27.760 Here it is in 2014.

01:50:28.860 Listen.

01:50:29.060 Well, I think we all understand that life is basically defined as consciousness.

01:50:33.140 That ultimately, consciousness is the unique thing that humans have.

01:50:36.620 So, if you can make a robot conscious, it's life?

01:50:44.100 Maybe.

01:50:45.060 Maybe not.

01:50:46.540 We'll have to decide.

01:50:47.380 But consciousness is more than an analytical process.

01:50:50.560 It's more than a verbal process.

01:50:52.160 It's something that is not understood.

01:50:54.280 It's never been understood by philosophers.

01:50:56.400 And scientists today cannot explain consciousness.

01:50:58.820 If Ray is right, because this is one of the things he's working on,

01:51:02.960 if he's right, and you can download somebody, let's say a soldier on the battlefield,

01:51:08.160 and he's still got it, but he's lost everything else,

01:51:13.860 and you could download his essence and put it into a working machine,

01:51:22.800 have you created life or saved a life?

01:51:26.480 These are the questions of science fiction.

01:51:28.400 The good news about your question...

01:51:29.760 But it's not science fiction.

01:51:30.680 But what you're describing is many, many, many years from now.

01:51:33.960 2030, according to the guy who works for you.

01:51:36.440 Well, I will be a little bit more pessimistic.

01:51:38.960 2040.

01:51:39.480 It's a long, long time.

01:51:42.000 And the reason is that as we understand the parallelism of the brain,

01:51:45.920 which presumably is self-consciousness,

01:51:47.560 it will be many, many years before we can simulate what you're describing.

01:51:51.100 I so disagree with him, and so does Elon Musk, so does Stephen Hawking,

01:51:59.040 so does Bill Gates, so does obviously Ray Kurzweil.

01:52:02.720 So disagree with him.

01:52:04.720 And you'll notice he'll say, well, that is something we're going to have to decide.

01:52:08.900 Who's we?

01:52:10.720 Because we as a society are not having this conversation.

01:52:15.120 As I try to have that conversation with you, you say, well, that's many, many, many years off.

01:52:20.980 Well, perhaps it's not.

01:52:23.520 Perhaps it's 10 or 15 years off.

01:52:26.700 So in the event that it is 10 or 15 years, maybe we should decide that right now.

01:52:35.260 You check the interviews out if you're a subscriber at TheBlaze.com.

01:52:39.360 We'll see you tonight, 5 o'clock, Deep State, Part 2.

01:52:45.120 Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - November 28, 2017

11⧸28⧸17 - Wondrous Acts of Journalism？ (Steve & Jackie Green & Lee Sepanek join Glenn)

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