The Glenn Beck Program - 11⧸30⧸17 - Chipping away our freedoms (Ajit Pai, Adam Foss & Sen. Mike Lee join Glenn)

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, love, courage, truth, Glenn Beck.

00:00:14.000 Well, the Matt Lauer fallout continues in a statement just released a couple of hours

00:00:18.660 ago.

00:00:19.040 Matt Lauer said, and I quote, there are no words to express my sorrow and regret for

00:00:24.480 the pain I have caused by words and actions.

00:00:29.280 To the people that I have hurt, I'm truly sorry.

00:00:32.120 As I'm writing this, I realize the depth of the damage and disappointment that I have

00:00:35.860 left behind at home and at NBC.

00:00:38.780 Some of what is being said about me is untrue or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth

00:00:43.460 in these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed.

00:00:46.960 The details now are beginning to emerge on Lauer's behavior.

00:00:50.220 Variety published a story yesterday, disclosed years of sexual harassment and inappropriate

00:00:56.420 behavior.

00:00:58.080 There were dozens of people that came forward to corroborate Lauer's actions.

00:01:06.020 It's kind of like the way Hollywood knew about Harvey Weinstein and was complicit in the reign

00:01:13.120 of terror.

00:01:14.580 Can we not now say the same thing about the brass at NBC?

00:01:17.280 See, Andy Lack, the chairman of NBC, stated Monday night that this was the first time he

00:01:22.260 had ever heard about Lauer's behavior.

00:01:25.140 But for a host of a show that makes three quarters of a billion dollars, are we seriously

00:01:31.920 expected to believe that?

00:01:35.080 According to Variety, Matt Lauer had multiple consensual relationships with women that he

00:01:40.160 held power over.

00:01:41.380 He sent a sex toy to a female colleague, exposed himself to employees, and reprimanded a subordinate

00:01:49.100 for not engaging in a sexual act with him in his office.

00:01:53.840 Like Weinstein in Hollywood.

00:01:56.260 This wasn't a secret in NBC.

00:01:58.600 It sounds like nearly all of the 30 Rockefeller Plaza employees had heard this was going on.

00:02:05.140 There is an obvious epidemic of perverts in our society.

00:02:11.740 Or is there?

00:02:14.600 Is it just the people that we watch on TV?

00:02:18.580 Is this what all of our society is like?

00:02:21.800 I'm not sure.

00:02:23.540 But it's time we hold accountable those who have engaged in this type of behavior.

00:02:29.220 Evil triumphs when good people do nothing.

00:02:32.180 If you're an executive, you're a manager, and you know something is going on, you need

00:02:39.420 to do something.

00:02:40.800 If you knew and turned the blind eye, I believe you carry the same guilt right alongside people

00:02:49.160 like Matt Lauer.

00:03:02.180 For those of you who are placing bets on how long my voice will last, I would bet on about

00:03:22.000 an hour, so I could try to get everything out I can possibly say today.

00:03:27.020 Welcome and excuse me for the sound of my voice, but I just wanted to come in today because

00:03:31.860 there's so much to talk about.

00:03:35.000 And let's first get through some of the sensational news on Matt Lauer and then John Conyers.

00:03:42.880 His accusers actually spoke out on the Today Show today, and it's pretty much the same

00:03:49.020 thing that Matt Lauer is accused of.

00:03:52.500 Although Matt Lauer is accused of having a door lock, a button on his desk that locks doors.

00:04:02.120 So if he wanted to have a door locked and he was in a meeting with you, he could just push

00:04:07.160 a button and that way he could trap his victims.

00:04:09.740 Is that the way you heard it?

00:04:12.680 Is that the way you?

00:04:13.640 It's the way it's everyone that heard it.

00:04:16.440 Basically, Matt Lauer had a button in his room that he would get women in there and then 1.00

00:04:21.320 he'd press the button to lock them in.

00:04:23.620 And a lot of people, I mean, I would say reading social media as this news was coming out,

00:04:29.500 because I believe it was in the Variety Report that came out yesterday, was the first place

00:04:32.540 that talked about it.

00:04:33.360 And people were calling it the rape button, and people were doctoring pictures of Montgomery

00:04:40.740 Burns, who in Simpsons episodes apparently has a button that does a similar thing.

00:04:45.860 I mean, this was like the coup de grace on Matt Lauer, showing he was a pervert weirdo

00:04:51.240 that went to lock in all of his interns.

00:04:53.880 And it was absolute consensus on the internet.

00:04:59.020 How often do you see internet consensus on something?

00:05:02.520 Almost never.

00:05:03.820 And then there was this one voice in the wilderness, standing out there, giving an alternative

00:05:11.300 opinion.

00:05:12.060 And you realize, oh crap, he works for us.

00:05:15.940 It's actually true.

00:05:17.600 It's true, Jason Buttrell, who is a writer for us and a researcher, as well as a former

00:05:28.500 big time security guy.

00:05:31.520 Yeah, he was one of my protectors from Gavin DeBecker and Associates.

00:05:36.020 And Gavin DeBecker is, I would rather have Gavin DeBecker than the Secret Service protecting

00:05:40.420 me.

00:05:41.160 They are one of the largest, if not the largest, protector of celebrities and people that don't

00:05:47.580 have access to state security in the world.

00:05:51.540 And he was with me for how long?

00:05:54.320 Two years?

00:05:54.920 Three years?

00:05:55.480 Three years.

00:05:55.960 Three years.

00:05:56.700 And with me round the clock.

00:06:00.400 And you did this with other people.

00:06:03.340 Now, when I saw this button with Matt Lauer, my first thought was, wow, he's got a rape

00:06:10.340 button.

00:06:11.260 Right.

00:06:11.860 Yeah, it feels that way.

00:06:12.760 And then I realized, wait a minute, I have automatic locking doors on my office because

00:06:18.700 security told me.

00:06:20.540 And Jason will take it a step further.

00:06:22.940 So I was reading this, and I got to tell you, I was in a Twitter groove yesterday.

00:06:27.100 There's North Korea ICBMs flying off and stuff.

00:06:30.040 I'm tweeting, getting like 10, 20 retweets.

00:06:32.360 And then I saw this report, and I was like, hey, yeah, actually, guys, this is a very

00:06:36.400 standard fare for CEOs, executives, and any public figure, especially on Matt Lauer's

00:06:42.860 level, to have an advice like this.

00:06:45.040 So I tweeted that bad boy out, and crickets.

00:06:48.480 Like, nobody wanted to hear it.

00:06:50.520 No one.

00:06:51.480 Wait, so explain why would Matt Lauer have a button that locks his doors from the inside?

00:06:57.080 Especially marked rape button.

00:06:58.660 Yeah, yeah, actually marked rape.

00:07:00.260 So this is standard fare for many executive CEOs, companies.

00:07:04.860 Actually, the chief of security, the security will actually mandate that these are in a lot

00:07:09.640 of these offices.

00:07:10.540 And the reason being is if there's an active shooter situation, or many of these guys, and

00:07:14.860 I bet Lauer is one of them, had a very long pursuer list, which is basically just a fancy

00:07:19.920 way of saying there's a lot of people that wanted to either hurt him, or they were weirdos.

00:07:23.080 So they marked them down on the list.

00:07:24.460 So anytime someone on that list would show up, they would say, hey, we don't, there's this

00:07:28.720 guy here, activate, you know, your protocols, he would hit the button, they know he's secure,

00:07:32.700 then they can find the individual.

00:07:34.380 I've protected many Fortune 500 CEOs, public figures, tons of them, and many of them had

00:07:42.160 this device as well.

00:07:43.320 It's nothing nefarious.

00:07:44.740 It's purely for security purposes.

00:07:46.360 Now, he may have used it in some nefarious way.

00:07:48.320 We don't know.

00:07:48.860 But, like, the indication was just because he had this button prove these things against

00:07:52.960 him.

00:07:53.160 Yeah, because you thought, you thought, who does that?

00:07:55.660 Right.

00:07:55.860 Who does that?

00:07:56.620 The hell would install that?

00:07:57.460 Yeah.

00:07:57.760 But then when you put a little bit of thought into it, like, what is the accusation?

00:08:02.920 Because the door would unlock from the inside.

00:08:05.580 So if you had a button that locked the door, the woman would be able to either escape or 1.00

00:08:10.520 scream, right, if she was being assaulted. 0.89

00:08:12.680 If the accusation is, well, they were just having consensual sex, you don't need a button

00:08:18.380 to lock the door.

00:08:19.080 You can just lock the door.

00:08:20.600 Yeah.

00:08:21.020 Right?

00:08:21.300 Like, there's no reason why a button that just simply locked the door from your desk would

00:08:26.260 do anything to advance your rape ability.

00:08:29.280 Unless it locked the door from the inside.

00:08:31.740 And you couldn't escape.

00:08:33.300 Right.

00:08:33.560 But still, even in that.

00:08:34.600 And you're Dr. Evil.

00:08:35.980 Even in that situation, though, you're talking about a public office where someone could scream,

00:08:42.180 right?

00:08:42.580 Like, I mean, this is not a good strategy if your idea is to rape a bunch of people in

00:08:48.720 your office.

00:08:50.020 It's ridiculous.

00:08:51.200 And the fact that other people actually have it, and it's fairly common, it's interesting

00:08:56.140 because, and I think this is important to get out there, because a lot of people, a

00:09:00.280 lot of the speculation on Twitter by others was, oh, I wonder how many other people are

00:09:04.600 people have these.

00:09:06.000 Like, it was like an indication.

00:09:07.500 If you have one of those, you're guilty of these types of things.

00:09:11.680 There's probably, after talking to Jason, there's probably dozens and dozens and dozens

00:09:16.180 and hundreds of people who have this type of thing for their security.

00:09:19.860 Yeah.

00:09:20.420 There's multiple, multiple.

00:09:22.300 And it's good security.

00:09:23.260 It's a good security policy.

00:09:24.600 But that's something that's kind of ridiculous about, some of these allegations are very,

00:09:28.820 very bad, and they are very, very nefarious.

00:09:30.900 But some of these allegations are just ridiculous.

00:09:32.880 And people will pile on, and they'll just throw stuff out there that's like, you know,

00:09:36.360 like, oh, we did this?

00:09:37.480 Well, then that leads to that.

00:09:39.040 And it just gets more and more insane.

00:09:40.940 So what can a person do?

00:09:42.320 I mean, Jason, you and I talked this morning.

00:09:44.680 I said, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm even starting to get paranoid.

00:09:48.400 I was sending stuff out this morning about these allegations and what Matt Lauer was doing.

00:09:54.100 And, you know, the people I'm sending to are women. 1.00

00:09:57.240 They're the ones who are assembling all of the stuff.

00:09:59.560 The women on our staff were doing it this morning. 1.00

00:10:02.100 And I thought for a second, gee, should I, should I put something?

00:10:05.760 I'm just sending this for the, you know, hey, this includes offensive material.

00:10:11.580 I mean, even, and I am really careful.

00:10:15.100 I mean, Jason, you were with me for how long?

00:10:17.440 Three years.

00:10:17.900 And you're with me all the time.

00:10:20.780 I mean, he's a close, you know, I have my people are close body people.

00:10:24.760 And so they're with me usually in the room all the time.

00:10:28.620 Lucky them.

00:10:29.460 Yeah, I know.

00:10:30.000 I know they want to hang themselves.

00:10:32.660 So they're with me all the time.

00:10:34.100 And even with that, I don't know if, if you have somebody who's with you all the time,

00:10:40.100 if somebody made an accusation and I could say, hey, yes, I was at that hotel.

00:10:44.880 I was there at that time.

00:10:46.180 But here's my security detail.

00:10:47.980 I've got three guys that were with me on the security detail.

00:10:51.040 One was with me the whole time.

00:10:52.420 I don't know if people would even believe that.

00:10:55.220 Yeah, probably not.

00:10:56.480 I mean, again, there's nothing you can do.

00:10:58.920 Nothing.

00:10:59.840 And a lot of these people shouldn't have anything they can do.

00:11:02.000 Because they're awful people and they probably did these things.

00:11:04.200 But that's why you have some sort of due process.

00:11:06.700 Like we don't just assume everyone's guilty from the moment of accusation.

00:11:10.220 We've gotten to a point to where it's a lot.

00:11:12.820 Some people actually have security threats and like public figures, you know, politicians,

00:11:17.160 people like that.

00:11:17.500 And they need security for those reasons.

00:11:19.600 Now we've gotten to a point to where literally if you're if you're a male person in the media

00:11:24.720 or Hollywood, you need this.

00:11:26.280 You need 24 seven security just for liability for for sexual assault allegations.

00:11:30.360 Like someone with you all the time.

00:11:32.560 Who's going to believe that person?

00:11:33.640 Who's going to believe that person?

00:11:34.700 What do we I mean?

00:11:35.620 I was going to say, what are you going to hire a priest?

00:11:37.500 No, you can't trust that.

00:11:39.660 I mean, what are you going to hire?

00:11:40.780 Who are you going to hire?

00:11:41.440 Who's who's going to believe somebody?

00:11:44.400 You know, it's OK.

00:11:45.740 Well, there's two against one.

00:11:46.820 Well, yeah, but you've been paying him.

00:11:48.960 He's just covering for you.

00:11:50.260 Yeah.

00:11:50.340 I mean, it's crazy.

00:11:51.840 It's cameras everywhere.

00:11:53.120 Right.

00:11:53.560 Or, you know, it's I mean, they've gone.

00:11:56.400 There was a story that came out, I think, a week or two ago that talked about the rise

00:12:00.840 in large corporations of sexual harassment insurance in which they just are like, look,

00:12:06.240 we're going to get a certain amount of claims.

00:12:07.920 We don't know if they're true or not, but we just have insurance that's going to pay them

00:12:10.900 off so we don't have to deal with it.

00:12:12.100 But you can't you can't do that now.

00:12:14.040 I mean, you pay.

00:12:15.240 If you pay.

00:12:16.320 I know that.

00:12:16.920 But if you pay now, if you settle and, you know, we were just in a settlement, I had

00:12:22.960 to settle.

00:12:23.500 It was lawsuit and attorney, not about sexual, not about sexual harassment, about freedom

00:12:28.960 of speech, had to settle, had to settle.

00:12:31.800 The insurance companies were like, settle it.

00:12:34.140 Well, OK, well, I didn't want to settle it now.

00:12:37.520 So what happens?

00:12:38.860 So what happens if you're in a sexual harassment lawsuit and your company says settle it, make

00:12:43.900 it go away?

00:12:45.680 Well, then what?

00:12:47.640 Then what?

00:12:48.380 Right.

00:12:48.560 And that's happened now.

00:12:49.440 You're thousands of times to people who absolutely would maintain their innocence to this moment.

00:12:54.120 And but they're like, all right, well, just make it go away.

00:12:56.900 Go away.

00:12:57.360 And that was OK at the time because these non-disclosure agreements and, you know, it was understood

00:13:03.060 as sad as it is that these things do happen.

00:13:05.640 Women and women at times would choose to instead of going through the process of this public 0.99

00:13:11.280 spectacle, they would choose to take a settlement.

00:13:15.640 And that would mean a good a good ending to a bad thing.

00:13:20.640 Right.

00:13:21.020 That was the way that was the best possible ending we can have to this terrible thing

00:13:24.700 that occurred.

00:13:25.140 Right.

00:13:25.540 That was the way women and a lot of these attorneys, you know, attorneys who deal with these cases 1.00

00:13:30.320 were looking at these things.

00:13:31.900 Now, those things don't apply anymore because we're going after everybody publicly.

00:13:37.800 And the people who had those agreements are now breaking them after they've had the money.

00:13:41.880 They collect the money and then they break them down the road, which means if you're an

00:13:45.460 executive in the future, why on earth would you ever go into one of these things?

00:13:49.200 You should never do that.

00:13:50.120 And what that's going to lead to is lawyers figuring out how to attack real victims who

00:13:56.820 actually do deserve to be settlements.

00:13:59.740 This is not a good.

00:14:00.320 This is not a good thing.

00:14:01.380 This is not a good thing for victims.

00:14:03.040 At the very least, there are good things that will come out of this, I think.

00:14:05.620 But there are bad consequences that are associated as well.

00:14:08.240 I thought the Matt Lauer thing was really good yesterday.

00:14:11.180 I thought, for the first time, I thought, okay, they're actually serious about this.

00:14:16.560 I thought that was, because that's a guy who's, I mean, who makes more money than the Today

00:14:21.560 Show for NBC?

00:14:22.820 Nobody.

00:14:23.520 Nobody.

00:14:24.200 And he's the main star.

00:14:26.240 They're paying him $20 million for a reason.

00:14:28.940 $26 million a year for a reason.

00:14:31.520 That's a three quarter of a billion dollar business.

00:14:35.620 And, you know, the ratings are, they fight for every tenth of a point.

00:14:40.040 I mean, that's a really dog-eat-dog world.

00:14:42.620 To take Matt Lauer out of there could cost them hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:14:47.260 It could really destroy that franchise.

00:14:50.500 To me, that said, NBC is serious.

00:14:54.420 Now, I think they had to do this because, you know, they were quiet on Harvey Weinstein.

00:15:00.420 They, you know, Pharaoh, they said, go publish that someplace else.

00:15:04.100 To me, that shows the reason why they said go publish that someplace else is they didn't

00:15:08.700 want to be the ones exposing it because they knew they had liability in their own building.

00:15:13.820 You know, what am I going to do?

00:15:15.000 I'm sitting here with Matt Lauer.

00:15:16.080 You're going to expose this and we're going to be all high and mighty on it?

00:15:20.460 And we're sitting here with Matt Lauer?

00:15:21.780 I don't think so.

00:15:22.860 Go take that to somebody else.

00:15:24.660 That just crossed my mind because it only took, what, 12 hours to fire Matt Lauer?

00:15:32.600 I mean, you don't make something that affects three quarters of a billion dollars of business

00:15:37.380 in a 12-hour period.

00:15:40.060 You don't.

00:15:40.640 That's something that you better be sure of.

00:15:44.180 They were sure of it.

00:15:45.940 To me, that tells you they knew.

00:15:48.760 So it is a, it's a good thing that this is actually being taken seriously.

00:15:55.280 However, it's not being taken seriously in one place.

00:16:00.300 And that is Capitol Hill.

00:16:02.100 Thanks to Jason Buttrell for coming in and being the only pro-rape-button guy we could

00:16:15.340 find to represent that point of view.

00:16:17.440 Jason, thank you very much for that.

00:16:19.080 He's, he's proud.

00:16:21.260 Wait, where would people follow you on Twitter?

00:16:22.660 What is your, I don't know.

00:16:25.820 People don't want to follow him.

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00:17:31.920 Glenn Beck.

00:17:39.580 Glenn Beck.

00:17:41.160 Kitty is one of our producers and she's a booker on our program and she actually worked 1.00

00:17:47.680 for NBC for a while and we were just talking off the air and asked her if she had ever heard

00:17:55.920 this about Matt Lauer or if she had ever had an experience with Matt Lauer like this

00:17:59.840 and you said everybody yesterday, all your friends at NBC were in shock.

00:18:04.520 That's correct.

00:18:05.360 Yeah.

00:18:05.400 You got to turn your microphone.

00:18:06.980 There it is.

00:18:07.360 Go ahead.

00:18:08.380 That's correct.

00:18:09.180 Yeah.

00:18:09.360 I was an NBC page and I did an assignment at Weekend today.

00:18:14.520 You know, I would drop off scripts for Matt Lauer in his office and even Lester Holt would

00:18:20.460 use that office when I was a page.

00:18:22.660 I reached out to my friends yesterday and everyone was just in shock.

00:18:25.880 I mean, Matt Lauer is really loved by the staff and it must have been a really difficult

00:18:30.020 day for everyone.

00:18:30.880 I had heard that no one thought he was harassing anyone, but that there's a reputation of him

00:18:38.160 kind of hooking up with a bunch of women. 1.00

00:18:40.960 Did you ever heard that?

00:18:42.420 That he was kind of an unfaithful dog?

00:18:44.860 I mean, I was at the bottom of the totem pole, but we didn't get that impression.

00:18:49.520 I mean, he was really well liked.

00:18:50.680 And I also worked for Meredith Vieira, who is really close with him.

00:18:54.720 So I really saw Matt Lauer through her lens.

00:18:57.860 And, you know, they were just like practical jokes and, you know, he just seemed like a

00:19:02.580 fun loving guy.

00:19:04.480 It's really weird.

00:19:05.560 Have you ever experienced?

00:19:07.400 I mean, we're as guys.

00:19:09.220 We're trying to just to.

00:19:11.280 This seems like a plague in America.

00:19:15.300 Is it just this group of people or is this?

00:19:18.620 Have you had this experience elsewhere?

00:19:20.900 I mean, I've never had it at the office, but I've I've definitely experienced it in

00:19:27.660 college, you know, at parties, things like that, but never in the workspace.

00:19:34.680 Do your friends say that they have this kind of experience all the time?

00:19:41.060 Do you hear from friends that it's this bad?

00:19:43.720 Yes.

00:19:44.440 Really?

00:19:45.180 And, you know, most of my friends, when I lived in New York, worked in finance.

00:19:49.580 And there's not many people that work on Wall Street that are female. 1.00

00:19:53.000 And the stories that they would come back home with were just shocking.

00:19:55.640 Like, I don't know how they went into work every day.

00:19:58.820 Wow.

00:19:59.860 Kitty, thank you very much.

00:20:01.160 Appreciate it.

00:20:02.180 You know, I think we should have that conversation.

00:20:04.600 I know Carly Fiorina is going to be on with us tomorrow. 1.00

00:20:08.020 She wrote a great editorial in Medium and she's going to be on with us tomorrow.

00:20:13.300 But I would really like to talk to the female side of our audience because I'm clueless to 0.99

00:20:19.020 this.

00:20:19.740 Is this really what it's like or is it just this collection of dirtbags?

00:20:23.880 Back.

00:20:30.900 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:33.240 So glad that you have tuned in today.

00:20:35.200 You know, I'm concerned that there is a disconnect between reality, television, and politics.

00:20:48.060 OK, shouldn't say television, maybe media that would include Internet.

00:20:54.500 There's reality.

00:20:55.880 And I think that's where most of us live in reality.

00:20:58.920 And then the stuff that happens in Washington is completely disconnected from reality.

00:21:05.080 The step in between is the Internet, where some of it is just insane.

00:21:11.220 And others, you're like, OK, at least there's a little bit of sanity here someplace.

00:21:14.600 But they're disconnected from reality.

00:21:17.560 And what we're seeing in the media now is this response to purge themselves of all of

00:21:24.500 these serial sexual harassers, which I think is a good thing if it's real.

00:21:30.100 You know, I, you know, our system has always been we don't want to put one innocent man 1.00

00:21:37.600 behind bars.

00:21:38.520 We'd rather let a guilty man go than put an innocent man behind bars.

00:21:43.500 That's the opposite of what we're doing now.

00:21:45.700 We're just it's just I saw.

00:21:49.720 Oh, shoot.

00:21:51.440 What's the space show on Fox now?

00:21:54.100 The Oracle Orville Orville.

00:21:55.940 That's right.

00:21:56.340 I saw that Orville first season, like episode six.

00:22:00.360 We were watching it the other night and it was they went to a planet where everything

00:22:04.860 was thumbs up or thumbs down.

00:22:06.640 And it was just the popular vote on who was guilty and who wasn't.

00:22:11.360 And I thought, boy, this I mean, this is today.

00:22:13.940 This is what we're doing now, except there is one place.

00:22:18.220 That is even further from reality.

00:22:21.300 And that is Washington.

00:22:24.900 Here's all of these people.

00:22:26.640 How many did you have up on the chalkboard yesterday?

00:22:28.880 There was 37 and since Weinstein.

00:22:31.980 Okay.

00:22:32.700 37 since Weinstein.

00:22:34.940 I've got a few more to add to that because I saw you.

00:22:37.460 You're you were missing some.

00:22:38.860 And I'm like, no, no, you've got you forgot this guy, this guy, this guy.

00:22:41.840 So there's more than 37 since Weinstein.

00:22:45.800 However, those guys are all swept out because why they're afraid the company is going to

00:22:53.340 look bad and get bad publicity, et cetera, et cetera.

00:22:56.020 And so they get rid of them.

00:22:57.260 You'll notice that's not happening in politics.

00:23:00.240 You have Roy Moore and you have Al Franken.

00:23:04.080 You have John Conyers.

00:23:06.020 You have Donald Trump.

00:23:07.400 And, you know, there's a lot more in Washington than just those guys, a lot more.

00:23:14.960 And yet we're not hearing about them.

00:23:16.400 And when you do hear about them, they don't go away.

00:23:20.640 This morning with John Conyers, they had his accuser on the Today Show.

00:23:26.840 So she was saying the same stuff about John Conyers that got Matt Lauer fired.

00:23:34.800 Probably worse, right?

00:23:35.940 I mean, it was a lot of unwanted stuff.

00:23:41.580 So what's going to make John Conyers?

00:23:44.760 What do you have to do in Washington to be fired?

00:23:48.520 What do you have to do?

00:23:50.060 Have you heard the interview with Al Franken yet?

00:23:52.640 Yeah, this is a pretty amazing interview, actually.

00:23:54.820 He was on with a station in Minnesota, and the journalists pushed him pretty hard on a lot of these things and would not let him off.

00:24:04.520 Because, you know, Franken kept trying to do the same thing he's been doing, which is these kind of like generalities.

00:24:10.220 And, yeah, so these sort of focus group, you know, answers.

00:24:14.960 Let's start with Al Franken on disrespect.

00:24:16.780 I don't think any of them are using that word.

00:24:29.920 I think that's your word.

00:24:31.700 Or done anything like this.

00:24:34.380 I mean, Leanne Tweeden said he forcibly kissed her.

00:24:36.560 I understand what she said.

00:24:38.280 And I...

00:24:39.140 You know, I think they're not using the word disrespect.

00:24:41.220 I think some people are looking at that word and saying, no.

00:24:44.880 You know, Lindsay Metz said you molested her on Facebook right afterwards. 0.98

00:24:50.660 I don't...

00:24:51.200 I think these women feel this goes way beyond disrespect. 1.00

00:24:53.660 I understand that.

00:24:56.580 I...

00:24:57.020 I have a different recollection than Leanne.

00:25:02.080 This is the same thing every time.

00:25:03.960 Here is...

00:25:04.880 Because it's amazing.

00:25:06.080 This is the same...

00:25:06.660 He has the same group of phrases he goes back to.

00:25:09.580 But if he was innocent, what?

00:25:12.320 He's trying to not dismiss them by saying, I have a different recollection of that.

00:25:18.660 That way he's not peeing all over them.

00:25:21.620 You know, because if he said, that's not true.

00:25:24.340 They're liars.

00:25:25.040 You're calling her a liar.

00:25:26.280 So he's trying to be, you know, careful.

00:25:32.380 Which is the only thing you can do.

00:25:34.840 But by doing that, you just sound...

00:25:37.040 I mean, that's ridiculous.

00:25:38.380 It's ridiculous, right?

00:25:39.380 So he's trying to, you know, manage the wording as well as possible to not draw out new accusers.

00:25:45.000 By the way, there's a fifth one today that said that he was...

00:25:47.820 Fifth.

00:25:47.920 That he was groping her during a photo shoot on the USO tour in 2003.

00:25:55.680 So who does that?

00:25:58.240 I mean, who just gets their jollies out of that?

00:26:00.440 I just don't...

00:26:01.180 Yeah, no, I don't get it.

00:26:02.580 I don't understand.

00:26:03.840 But Al Franken does, apparently.

00:26:05.600 Al Franken on credibility.

00:26:06.700 Can you really continue to claim kind of a moral high ground on some of these issues, including the Trump-Russia investigation, when a lot of people feel you've been less than transparent about these particular allegations?

00:26:19.920 Well, I think I'm a good questioner.

00:26:26.740 I think that the questions that I'm asking don't go to my credibility.

00:26:32.180 They go to the credibility of the witness.

00:26:35.660 They go to the credibility...

00:26:36.920 But hasn't your credibility been undermined?

00:26:38.700 I would say yes.

00:26:43.880 And I have a long way back.

00:26:45.880 I have a long way back to win back the trust of the people of Minnesota.

00:26:50.560 Not that long.

00:26:51.440 I mean, we didn't really trust you that much before.

00:26:53.560 But it was interesting.

00:26:53.940 I'm really regretting doing this interview with WCCO right now.

00:26:57.860 Yeah.

00:26:58.360 I thought WCCO was in my camp.

00:27:00.960 Right.

00:27:01.120 I don't know why I'm sitting here with you.

00:27:02.680 They pushed pretty hard.

00:27:03.700 Yeah, she did a great job. 1.00

00:27:05.160 It's interesting because he kept bringing this back.

00:27:07.800 She was bringing up...

00:27:08.880 Like, you were questioning Sessions.

00:27:10.700 You were questioning Tom Price and saying,

00:27:12.640 Hey, how could you possibly expect anyone to believe that you didn't know you were buying stocks that had connections to the bills you were trying to pass?

00:27:26.600 How could anyone believe that?

00:27:28.040 And she said, how could anyone believe you that you didn't know you grabbed a woman's butt?

00:27:33.100 How could anyone know that you didn't know that you...

00:27:36.880 Like, that was her kind of line of questioning.

00:27:39.040 I thought this was interesting, though.

00:27:41.120 Because you talk about...

00:27:43.100 He kept bringing up this issue of intent.

00:27:45.380 And here he is, as you kind of point out.

00:27:47.080 He's in a tough spot.

00:27:48.260 Right?

00:27:48.640 He's fighting for his life here.

00:27:50.440 He's got nowhere to go.

00:27:51.180 Guilty or innocent, you got nowhere to go.

00:27:51.940 He's got nowhere to go.

00:27:53.440 And so he is trying to look...

00:27:57.080 Do the progressive thing.

00:27:58.380 Right?

00:27:58.600 He's trying to give so much ground so he looks so progressive and so in line with women. 0.98

00:28:05.220 And he understands women so well that you can't possibly be mad at him for squeezing and pinching a couple of butts.

00:28:11.220 Right?

00:28:11.540 How can you?

00:28:12.380 Come on.

00:28:12.840 The guy, he really likes the women. 0.99

00:28:15.580 Look at the bills he passes.

00:28:16.620 Right.

00:28:16.860 So he is...

00:28:18.540 And this is the same sort of thing that Louis C.K. did and several others have done.

00:28:25.620 Adopting this new standard of intent.

00:28:29.360 Listen to how he describes...

00:28:31.620 This is really dangerous.

00:28:33.300 Yeah.

00:28:33.500 Listen to how he describes how intent should be thought about in these situations.

00:28:37.960 I meet thousands, as you know, people in Minnesota and I take thousands of pictures.

00:28:44.980 All right.

00:28:45.360 And I'm a warm person and I hug people.

00:28:49.660 And in some of these encounters, in the pictures or meetings...

00:28:58.140 Encounters, wrong word to use.

00:28:59.360 Some women, and any, you know, is too many, have felt that I have crossed a line and I am terribly sorry about it.

00:29:12.560 They feel that in these interactions I've done something to disrespect them and that's not my intention.

00:29:23.580 But what I know is that the intention doesn't matter.

00:29:27.960 What matters is we listen to women's experience. 0.97

00:29:32.500 Stop for a second.

00:29:33.580 Your intention doesn't matter?

00:29:35.700 What I know is that my intention doesn't matter.

00:29:40.240 And this is the standard that progressives have built for themselves.

00:29:43.400 The intention doesn't matter.

00:29:46.500 It's, in many ways, all that matters.

00:29:49.800 Now, if a woman has an experience that she doesn't like and the intention is, you know, you could argue from her perspective, look, you know, I mean, I didn't like it. 0.90

00:30:00.700 Right.

00:30:00.820 Like the George H.W. Bush, this was brought up.

00:30:03.720 Right.

00:30:03.880 His intention was to try to loosen up the situation.

00:30:06.360 He's in a wheelchair.

00:30:07.780 And yes, absolutely.

00:30:09.540 If that were the intention.

00:30:11.000 Right.

00:30:11.180 If that were the intention.

00:30:12.380 But again, like you could argue, yeah, she should still be offended.

00:30:14.900 But it would be a big point on how we would judge Bush.

00:30:18.760 Right.

00:30:19.020 It's a big point on how we would judge Franken.

00:30:22.140 Right.

00:30:22.760 So the idea that intention doesn't matter.

00:30:26.700 Well, it matters.

00:30:28.020 All it's it's the most important thing when judging someone in the middle of these situations.

00:30:32.840 If you run over a person because you don't like them on the side of the road and you're that intention is important. 1.00

00:30:40.000 If your intention is to drive down the road and swerve out of the way of a cat that ran into the road and you hit someone, it's a terrible, terrible mistake.

00:30:47.760 It's a terrible thing.

00:30:48.500 You don't want to happen.

00:30:49.140 But your intention tells the story there.

00:30:51.900 Right.

00:30:52.300 The intention is always if you shoot someone in the in the middle of the street.

00:30:57.680 Oh, my gosh.

00:30:58.380 You can't shoot someone in the middle of the street.

00:30:59.620 Well, if your intention was to protect the woman who he was raping.

00:31:02.940 Well, you know what?

00:31:04.100 All of a sudden, intention is a big part of that story.

00:31:06.680 Did you did you did you or did you not stick a knife into his chest, which resulted in his death?

00:31:16.040 Yes, I'm a heart surgeon.

00:31:17.420 I mean, yes, I did stick a knife in his chest.

00:31:27.200 What I do know is that my intention does not matter.

00:31:33.740 The fact is, I did slice open the person's chest, cut open an artery.

00:31:40.500 For that, I apologize.

00:31:42.500 Apologies, not good enough electric chair for you.

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00:32:03.180 Yeah, he's one of my favorite appointments in the administration.

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00:32:07.240 And he's getting rid of net neutrality.

00:32:10.760 And people were boycotting at his house.

00:32:14.660 And terrorizing his kids on Thanksgiving weekend.

00:32:17.980 It was awful what's been happening to him.

00:32:20.820 But he'd like to set the record straight on net neutrality and what it really is doing.

00:32:28.560 And we have him coming up in about 15 minutes.

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00:33:49.180 Glenn Beck.

00:33:57.240 Glenn Beck.

00:33:58.960 So, Garrison Keillor has also been fired from Minnesota Public Radio for sexual harassment.

00:34:09.520 And listen to what Garrison Keillor said on sexual assault in 1994.

00:34:14.660 This is important.

00:34:16.280 We should be careful, though, not to make the world so fine and good that you and I can't enjoy living in it.

00:34:24.540 A world in which there is no sexual harassment at all is a world in which there will not be any flirtation.

00:34:35.320 Hang on.

00:34:36.040 Do you believe that?

00:34:38.640 I mean, that's how you flirt.

00:34:40.200 I guess it depends on how you flirt.

00:34:41.880 I mean, if you're flirting with somebody and it's unwanted, you know, if you're notified this is not wanted,

00:34:49.080 then that's sexual harassment.

00:34:53.600 But flirting is only fun when you're flirting back and forth.

00:34:58.860 You know what I mean?

00:34:59.600 So, I don't understand what he's saying.

00:35:01.760 But listen to what he says right after that.

00:35:05.280 A world without thieves at all will not have entrepreneurs.

00:35:09.820 Will not have entrepreneurs as if entrepreneurs are thieves.

00:35:16.000 This just shows how out of touch.

00:35:21.600 First of all, a world without sexual harassment means a world without flirting.

00:35:27.160 No, not really.

00:35:28.880 But I can see if we if we say me asking you out on a date or me, you know, saying you look nice or I like your dress or whatever.

00:35:37.620 25 percent of millennials say anyone who isn't their partner and ask them out for a drink, have they've been sexually harassed?

00:35:43.640 So there is.

00:35:44.200 So that is that's true then on that point.

00:35:46.700 But without without thieves, there won't wouldn't be entrepreneurs.

00:35:52.460 Yeah.

00:35:52.920 I mean, that's just an anti-capitalist argument.

00:35:54.600 Yeah.

00:35:54.800 Without thieves, there wouldn't be government.

00:35:57.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.760 And that is an anti-government argument.

00:36:00.700 It wouldn't be the IRS.

00:36:02.660 Exactly.

00:36:03.100 It's funny because, you know, the only thing that I think connects there is to say if you were an executive, like if you were single right now, right?

00:36:12.840 Glenn Beck's single.

00:36:14.120 And you run the company, obviously.

00:36:15.400 So you're really high level here.

00:36:16.920 But I mean, if you were just a mid-level executive or a manager, would you even consider dating somebody who worked at the company?

00:36:25.740 And this is a problem.

00:36:26.640 You'd be terrified to do it.

00:36:27.460 Most of us meet our spouses at work.

00:36:30.140 I did.

00:36:30.660 Through work.

00:36:30.860 Yeah.

00:36:31.280 I did, too.

00:36:32.240 Yeah.

00:36:33.160 I mean, you know, both times.

00:36:35.520 And so I know more about marriage because I've been married twice.

00:36:38.540 You have double the knowledge.

00:36:39.960 I have double the knowledge.

00:36:41.820 But yeah, I mean, that is a very common thing, right?

00:36:45.300 I mean, that, you know, especially.

00:36:47.040 If you're in a position of power at all, you can't.

00:36:50.620 You can't date.

00:36:52.140 It does feel like that's probably the answer.

00:36:54.120 And so in a way, because Keillor's obviously being hammered because he was just fired for sexual harassment.

00:36:59.620 The day he was fired for sexual harassment in the morning, he had written a Washington Post defense of Al Franken that he shouldn't step down.

00:37:07.380 And it came out the morning.

00:37:09.700 By the end of the day, he was fired.

00:37:11.900 And now they're going back and they're finding all these clips.

00:37:14.160 And this is there's a somewhat unfair process we do there where we go back and look at all the old clips.

00:37:18.300 But there is something to it.

00:37:19.780 People may fear wanting to do that.

00:37:24.520 Glenn Beck.

00:37:32.300 Love.

00:37:33.880 Courage.

00:37:35.380 Truth.

00:37:36.560 Glenn Beck.

00:37:37.220 One of my favorite quotes came yesterday.

00:37:39.260 Quote, the son of God himself wouldn't improve.

00:37:42.820 End quote.

00:37:43.880 That is from a writer of Newsweek.

00:37:46.220 Apparently, she picked up the phone.

00:37:47.580 She talked to Jesus about his opinion on Trump's new Christmas themed Make America Great Again hats.

00:37:54.180 She's convinced that Jesus would not approve of the holiday merchandise.

00:38:00.100 Well, I'm not.

00:38:02.040 I don't know.

00:38:03.240 I really don't know.

00:38:04.080 I know the hats cost 45 bucks.

00:38:06.240 That's nearly double the price of the traditional Trump hat.

00:38:09.200 But it's a special hat.

00:38:10.720 You know, what would Jesus do about President Donald Trump's overpriced Christmas hat?

00:38:15.760 That's I don't know.

00:38:16.700 I don't have the bracelet.

00:38:18.760 That's what she's asking.

00:38:20.580 Then she goes on to cite several verses from Scripture, denouncing greed and 1 Corinthians, you know, saying that you shouldn't cover your head while praying.

00:38:31.040 Okay.

00:38:31.440 All right.

00:38:32.080 If the article was supposed to be satire, it should also be funny.

00:38:36.440 But I think it was serious.

00:38:39.060 So, Newsweek, help me out on this one.

00:38:42.580 Would Jesus approve of your promoting your membership options immediately following that article?

00:38:48.560 Because on that article, you know, just just like Trump, you use Christmas to sell your products.

00:38:55.260 Newsweek literally had an ad that says, give the perfect Christmas gift.

00:38:59.140 A magazine subscription makes a fantastic gift that lasts an entire year.

00:39:03.380 Would Jesus approve of that?

00:39:05.960 Come on.

00:39:06.860 How much for the cheapest subscription to Newsweek?

00:39:10.960 Only $1.90 a week, which comes out to $99 a year, more than twice the price of the Trump hat, which I can wear for five years if I wanted.

00:39:20.640 Hayes maybe should have looked up Matthew 7.5 while she was reading Scripture and removed the beam from her own eye before writing this nonsense.

00:39:27.880 But the bottom line is, selling products, whether it's a subscription to Newsweek or a Trump hat, to consumers so they can give their loved ones a present on Christmas is a good thing.

00:39:38.160 It's a good thing.

00:39:39.440 Christmas is not about the presents.

00:39:42.200 But, you know, at the root of purchasing and giving gifts, it is a symbolic gesture of love.

00:39:49.360 And I think it would be a gesture that I would believe that Jesus would be okay with.

00:39:57.880 It's Thursday, November 30th.

00:40:08.120 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:40:10.940 I've done broadcast for 40-some years, and I think this is the only time I've ever liked the FCC chairman, Ajit Pai.

00:40:18.980 Welcome to the program, Ajit.

00:40:20.740 How are you?

00:40:21.780 Pretty good.

00:40:22.460 Thanks for having me on and for the kind words.

00:40:25.540 Well, you didn't have a high bar.

00:40:27.060 I do not like regulation at all.

00:40:30.980 And that's what the FCC has done.

00:40:34.340 And they have gotten stronger and stronger, and I worry about the Internet.

00:40:39.280 And then you come in, and you are now having a real problem because you're going to repeal net neutrality.

00:40:48.840 And people are coming out, and I'm sorry for what your family went through, picketing your house on Thanksgiving weekend.

00:40:58.100 It's outrageous, and some of the online threats have been even more outrageous.

00:41:04.220 And I think for anybody in public office, in any publicly exposed position, you should not be threatened.

00:41:10.880 Your family should not be threatened with violence or the like, simply because of the position you hold.

00:41:16.580 And it just simply steals my resolve to keep doing what I think is the right thing to do, and also to keep my family safe.

00:41:22.840 So, Ajit, first of all, I'm sorry for this, but this is what's happening all over the country to anybody.

00:41:32.540 When people disagree with somebody, we just all of a sudden, we think it's okay to harass them or terrorize them or offer death threats or whatever online.

00:41:43.020 Does the FCC have any place in regulating that kind of speech, online or anywhere else?

00:41:50.560 We don't.

00:41:51.620 I mean, obviously, if it threatens violence or the like, we can work with law enforcement authorities.

00:41:57.200 But by and large, we have a hands-off role.

00:42:00.320 We don't regulate the content that goes over the Internet.

00:42:02.580 What I will say, though, is that I have tried to speak out about the fact that we need to have a more civil, fact-focused discourse in this country.

00:42:10.160 It's one thing to disagree on policy, but if you go out there peddling misinformation, like democracy is threatened, the Internet is about to be broken, and here's the guy who's doing it, here's his phone number, here's where he lives, here's his family, you shouldn't be surprised when people get alarmed and start to take outrageous actions.

00:42:26.640 And so I would hope that we try to focus on the facts, as passionate as people are about this issue.

00:42:31.220 So they are claiming that this is the end of democracy on the Internet because you are going to repeal something that Obama put in, net neutrality.

00:42:38.840 And that's the great irony about this.

00:42:41.240 All we are proposing to do is to go back to President Clinton's light-touch market-based framework that was in place from 1996 to 2015.

00:42:49.160 It's a regulatory system that has been proven to work.

00:42:52.420 That's why we have the Internet economy.

00:42:53.940 It's the envy of the world.

00:42:55.280 And so all of these apocalyptic predictions are simply ridiculous, given the fact that we lived under these exact same rules for two decades, and the world didn't end.

00:43:02.760 And to the contrary, it thrived, especially for conservatives who have historically been marginalized when it comes to having the ability to express themselves.

00:43:09.780 That's amazing that they would think that the era of 1996 to 2015 was a bad one for the Internet.

00:43:15.760 I mean, it changed our world completely.

00:43:18.460 It's incredible.

00:43:20.260 All these people suggesting that we were living in some digital dystopia before 2015, and that's why the government had to seize control of the Internet, are completely misinterpreting history and, I think, are oblivious to the fact that these regulations do have costs.

00:43:34.860 And going forward, we want to make sure that we have rules that accurately reflect the market and promote free speech and expression online as well.

00:43:42.240 So I talked to Ray Kurzweil, who is the head of the Singularity University and consultant for Google and everybody else.

00:43:49.400 And we talked about this at one point, kind of half-jokingly, about, you know, if Google can monitor all of the stuff and see what people are searching for, if somebody is searching for a better way to make a better Google, why would Google ever allow them to do that?

00:44:06.620 Are you concerned at all about the rise of these gigantic corporations that are bigger than some countries in their power, like Google?

00:44:18.000 I mean, Google pretty much wrote the net neutrality bill.

00:44:25.760 This is a growing concern, I think, in some halls in Washington and around the country.

00:44:29.600 And part of the argument I made earlier this week is that you should practice what you preach.

00:44:33.540 If you come to the FCC saying, we need these heavy-handed regulations to be applied to one part of the Internet economy, but, oh, don't regulate me, you should be consistent in how you operate your business.

00:44:44.020 And that's part of the reason why I've said that we need to have a level playing field.

00:44:47.260 Everyone should play by the same rules.

00:44:49.480 And the government certainly shouldn't be picking winners and losers and dispensing regulatory favors to those companies or parts of the industry that it favors at any given point in time.

00:44:57.880 So how does net neutrality benefit a company like Google and hurt the small guy?

00:45:02.500 Well, I think the primary way is it's essentially saying that if you're an online content provider, you get rules of the road that are going to favor you, that you essentially have the ability to pursue your business model without regulation.

00:45:16.560 But the companies that run the networks that have to invest in those networks aren't free to essentially build out their networks and manage them appropriately.

00:45:24.500 And so that's pretty useful to companies that are sending and receiving a lot of traffic on the Internet.

00:45:29.560 And my simple point is let's let the market decide how this works instead of having the government micromanage it and pick winners and losers.

00:45:36.680 We were talking to Ajit Pai from the FCC, and I know that a lot of even some conservatives that I talk to see net neutrality as something that's positive because they they look at the way they use the Internet.

00:45:50.140 They stream Netflix and Netflix is awesome.

00:45:52.580 Everybody loves Netflix.

00:45:53.620 It's great programming.

00:45:54.560 And I don't want some company telling me that I can't get the speeds I need so I get buffering and everything else.

00:46:00.900 We need to stop that.

00:46:01.960 What do you tell those people?

00:46:03.240 I tell them two things.

00:46:04.740 First of all, I understand where they're coming from.

00:46:07.120 I love Netflix as well and stream a video all the time.

00:46:10.680 The problem is twofold.

00:46:11.960 Number one, the companies that are building the networks have to be able to have a wide enough road, so to speak, to carry all of this bandwidth.

00:46:19.420 And that road, expanding it, maintaining it costs a lot of money.

00:46:22.780 And so the question is, should we allow commercial arrangements where the companies that are occupying a lot of space on the road will share in the cost of maintaining that road?

00:46:33.380 And that's one of the things that the market has traditionally been able to sort out.

00:46:36.880 My point is simply we shouldn't have the government dictating up front that, look, we're going to set the rules of the road and you prefer one part of the industry over another.

00:46:46.400 Can you can you explain because people say that by repealing this, it's going to make it harder for poor Americans to afford the the Internet, which is usually the opposite of what happens when government, you know, doesn't get involved.

00:47:08.020 When government doesn't get involved, the prices go down because there's competition.

00:47:13.680 When the government starts regulating, the prices usually go up.

00:47:16.700 Can can you help solve this?

00:47:19.840 Absolutely.

00:47:20.380 And this is one of the classic bits of misinformation out there.

00:47:23.240 These regulations, these heavy handed regulations on some of these network operators have actually led them to reduce their investment in building these high speed networks, especially in rural and low income urban areas.

00:47:36.260 Building these networks is hard.

00:47:37.540 It costs a lot of money, takes a lot of time.

00:47:39.600 And what I've heard from myself firsthand when I've gone to places like Spencer, Iowa and Parsons, Kansas and Reno, Nevada, is that some of these smaller companies, the very companies that are necessary to promote more competition and to reach rural and low income consumers, they are the ones who are suffering under these regulations.

00:47:56.360 They've told us on the record that they are holding back on investment or they can't even raise capital in the first place because companies say there's not going to be a return on the investment because of these rules.

00:48:06.140 And so the argument I've made is that poor consumers in particular are worse off because these regulations are standing in the way of them getting Internet access or getting more competition.

00:48:16.220 I think, Ajit, there's a strong ideological argument to me that there's no human right, there's no constitutional right to Netflix.

00:48:25.960 That is not what the government should be involved in when it comes to commerce.

00:48:29.300 But people, you know, they obviously like it.

00:48:32.500 They don't want these things to happen.

00:48:34.500 And when you have a situation where a company could, in theory, strangle a particular site's bandwidth, people get panicked.

00:48:44.980 However, is it a real world thing?

00:48:47.980 My understanding is it basically never happens.

00:48:51.000 And if it does, the result afterwards is actually a positive one.

00:48:56.080 Exactly.

00:48:56.460 And this is part of the reason why, going back to your earlier question about Netflix, and this is exactly the reason why we should let the Federal Trade Commission, not the FCC, figure out whether or not there are any of these arrangements that are any competitive.

00:49:10.100 That kind of phenomenon you were just describing doesn't happen in the marketplace today.

00:49:13.720 And if it did, one could imagine that it could be pro-competitive or it could be anti-competitive.

00:49:18.340 My point is simply the FCC shouldn't preemptively say for all the 4,000-some Internet service providers and for the rest of time, we know what the market is going to be and we're going to forbid this or that business practice.

00:49:30.380 Let's let the anti-competitive authorities, the competition authorities at the Federal Trade Commission figure out what could be anti-competitive on a case-by-case basis.

00:49:38.240 That's a much better way of singling out the bad apples, I think.

00:49:40.860 Talking to the chairman of the FCC, Ajit Pai, about net neutrality, Ajit, do you look at all to the regulations of FDR and see how the big, for instance, big three automakers put automakers like Auburn out of business when they started regulating?

00:50:03.720 I mean, a lot of this stuff, as we are growing into a new area in technology, a lot of this stuff we can learn from the past.

00:50:12.460 Are you examining any of that?

00:50:14.720 Oh, absolutely.

00:50:15.620 In fact, the net neutrality regulations that the previous FCC adopted in 2015 were directly modeled on the rules developed in the Roosevelt administration to handle Ma Bell, the telephone monopoly.

00:50:26.440 And the argument I've made is counterintuitive to a lot of people, but I think you might appreciate it, which is that these heavy-handed rules from the 1930s that were designed for monopolies actually benefit some of the bigger companies.

00:50:38.140 They're the ones who have the lawyers and the accountants and the lobbyists to comply with these regulations.

00:50:42.680 The smaller companies don't.

00:50:44.100 And so, ironically enough, these heavy-handed rules that were designed for a monopoly will end up leading the marketplace toward a monopoly.

00:50:50.320 And that's the last thing we want to see.

00:50:52.020 We want to see more competition, more smaller providers entering the marketplace, and heavy-handed rules are not the way to get us there.

00:50:59.420 Seeing that you are the chairman of the FCC and so much of freedom of speech, in some ways, falls under your purview,

00:51:09.520 are you concerned about the direction that our colleges or universities or even our media and our politicians seem to be moving in where there doesn't seem to be any tolerance for different kinds of opinions?

00:51:28.860 Absolutely. And I just gave a speech about this yesterday, in fact, where I said that there seems to be less of a tolerance for other points of view,

00:51:36.480 and that social media, ironically enough, given the name, seems to be accentuating that problem.

00:51:42.120 And I'm very disturbed about the future of free speech and expression in this country.

00:51:46.340 I think the harbinger is certainly on college campuses where you see people not only not wanting to listen to other points of view,

00:51:52.940 they actively want to shut down the expression of other points of view.

00:51:57.240 And this is the generation, these are the people who are going to have to carry the torch for this core constitutional freedom in the years to come.

00:52:03.660 And I've long said that the First Amendment is great.

00:52:06.180 It's nice to have that on the parchment of the Constitution.

00:52:08.480 But it also requires a culture that is willing to defend this principle that we are a pluralistic nation,

00:52:14.920 that other points of view, even if repugnant to you, should be allowed to be expressed.

00:52:18.560 And I do worry that our culture is becoming less and less tolerant of other points of view.

00:52:23.640 And eventually that's going to have a serious impact if it's not corrected.

00:52:27.720 Ajit Pai, thank you so much. I appreciate it and appreciate your time.

00:52:31.000 Chairman, you bet, chairman of the FCC.

00:52:33.660 You know, there's something happening up in Canada with a teacher that wanted to share the other side with her with her university class.

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00:54:14.880 Glenn Beck.

00:54:24.100 Glenn Beck.

00:54:27.940 On November 18th, a week ago last Saturday, I was about to take the stage at the M1 Mercury One Gala

00:54:36.580 and the director of operations of the Nazarene Fund reported that we had just captured our 100th slave and set them free.

00:54:49.380 There were three Yazidi sisters that were 14, 8 years old and 3 years old and they had been kidnapped in Syria

00:55:01.240 and were enslaved in Syria and worked as sex slaves.

00:55:08.080 We got them out of Syria and returned them to their family through one of our rescue partners and we want to thank you for making this possible.

00:55:19.740 That's 100 Christian or Yazidi slaves that we have freed in the last, what, 18 months. 0.67

00:55:26.980 We have a huge goal and we would like to not only expand and tear the heart out of the slave trade,

00:55:36.140 but we haven't even touched upon the organ selling that is going on in the Middle East right now with the Christians and the Yazidis.

00:55:44.640 If you're, you know, if you're, if you won't comply or bow down, you're just good for your organs and it's horrible what's going on.

00:55:57.200 We are asking if you would help us raise $25 million in the next 12 months so we can go and rescue those people,

00:56:05.500 put an end to the slave trade, not only in Iraq and Syria, but we are also going to be moving into Northern Africa

00:56:13.580 and around the world with our new partner, Operation Underground Railroad.

00:56:19.460 You can donate at the nazarenefund.org, become an abolitionist and donate now at the nazarenefund.org, the nazarenefund.org.

00:56:33.260 So I saw this, I just got this in.

00:56:38.120 This is a painting that has been done now.

00:56:42.380 I can't remember his name.

00:56:44.440 Shoot, it's not here either.

00:56:45.920 Um, uh, the art, I can't remember the McNaughton, I think is the artist's name.

00:56:53.800 And there is a painting now of all of the abolitionists from the past and a painting to the new ones.

00:57:02.480 So you see Abraham Lincoln and all those people on one side.

00:57:06.340 Yeah.

00:57:06.900 I was shocked to see, look at my weepy face.

00:57:10.440 You see me?

00:57:12.360 Like towards the front.

00:57:13.940 I'm looking for Glenn.

00:57:15.240 Oh, is that you?

00:57:16.140 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:57:16.980 Isn't that wild?

00:57:17.980 Yeah.

00:57:18.340 You look, uh, it's like what happens when someone takes the last cupcake out of the room.

00:57:22.500 I know it is.

00:57:23.120 It is.

00:57:23.700 Oh, no.

00:57:24.220 Look at it go.

00:57:25.200 These are the modern day people who are freeing slaves.

00:57:29.020 Right.

00:57:29.460 And it's a great, a great painting of the people of history and the people who are making a difference

00:57:34.660 now, like Tony Robbins and Tim Ballard and Mike Tomlin and Mia Love and Ashton Kutcher.

00:57:41.880 You can find that at OurPainting.org, OurPainting.org.

00:57:46.820 Glenn Beck.

00:57:55.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:57:57.540 Hopefully we'll have Mike Lee on with us for a second.

00:58:01.700 He's got a tax proposal that he's working on, and we'll talk to him about it.

00:58:06.600 There's some ridiculous things going on, arguments against the tax bill, and there are arguments

00:58:10.900 against it.

00:58:11.520 Good ones in that it's not as good as it should be.

00:58:15.060 It's not as bold as it should be.

00:58:16.800 Mike Lee is trying to do some things to it that may help depending on your perspective.

00:58:21.640 But some of the arguments against it are also unfair.

00:58:24.920 National Review has four of them that they featured today.

00:58:28.720 People are calling it a middle class tax hike.

00:58:32.040 This is an interesting thing because what they're trying to do with this is play with the numbers.

00:58:36.280 Tax Policy Center analysis on the Senate bill reveals that three quarters of all families

00:58:40.780 would get a tax cut.

00:58:41.920 Twelve percent would see a tax increase, and they are concentrated among the rich.

00:58:46.220 Now, to me, that's annoying because no one should be getting any increase.

00:58:49.180 But the idea that it's a middle class tax cut, you're seeing that on Facebook, you're seeing

00:58:53.320 that on all mainstream media, the average middle income family would receive a tax cut of approximately

00:58:57.880 $850 through 2025.

00:59:00.960 Now, what they're doing is they're looking at the year 2027, and they're seeing lots of

00:59:08.340 tax increases in that year.

00:59:10.760 The Senate bill is structured to make these middle class tax cuts expire in 2025.

00:59:17.620 They do this for a dumb budgeting gimmick.

00:59:21.180 The idea is, in 2025, no one's going to say, well, we should raise taxes on the middle class.

00:59:25.960 No one's going to want to take that position, so they'll all keep the tax cuts.

00:59:29.400 That's risky.

00:59:30.060 I don't like it.

00:59:31.080 But even if you say that they don't extend them, what you would have is a $7,000 tax cut

00:59:36.760 in the early years, followed by a $100 annual tax increase later.

00:59:42.400 I'll take it.

00:59:43.040 It's still a big cut over the time.

00:59:45.600 They're just focusing on the 2027.

00:59:46.840 Nobody's going to do it at that time anyway.

00:59:48.740 Mike Lee is with us.

00:59:49.580 Senator Mike Lee, how are you, sir?

00:59:51.860 Doing great, Glenn.

00:59:52.880 It's good to be with you.

00:59:53.440 Can you help us make sense and heads or tails of the tax plan and tell us what's going to

00:59:58.280 happen?

00:59:58.540 I want to talk about you and Rubio have gotten together, and you're asking exactly what?

01:00:06.020 We're asking to make the child tax credit more meaningful to everyone who works, everyone

01:00:12.220 who pays taxes.

01:00:13.220 What we want is a tax credit that people can take advantage of up to 15.3% of their earnings.

01:00:20.820 And if this is a tax, a payroll tax is something that almost every American worker pays, and

01:00:27.180 our tax system fails to take into account what we call the parent tax penalty, our child tax

01:00:33.520 credit proposal would address that.

01:00:36.080 Now, Glenn, I've been accused justifiably in the past of being really bored on your show.

01:00:43.380 Talking about this proposal subjects me to that accusation.

01:00:47.060 So we're going to let you go.

01:00:49.360 I mean, it's just that you get turned on by numbers and clauses in the Constitution that

01:00:53.960 most people don't.

01:00:55.340 Don't we all?

01:00:55.940 Well, no, we don't.

01:00:57.280 But I appreciate that in a senator.

01:01:01.080 Well, thank you.

01:01:02.100 And I appreciate the chance to talk about it.

01:01:04.700 It really is important.

01:01:05.960 Look, America's working moms and dads contribute to our senior entitlement programs, Social 0.93

01:01:10.860 Security and Medicare, twice.

01:01:12.360 Once they pay their taxes, and the second time they incur the cost of childbearing.

01:01:17.680 Because of the pay-as-your-go nature of Social Security and Medicare, our working parents

01:01:23.180 are contributing to Social Security and Medicare twice.

01:01:25.640 By increasing the child tax credit and making it refundable up to 15.3% of earnings, what

01:01:32.660 we're doing is we're making sure that we provide necessary tax relief to offset this

01:01:37.420 parent tax penalty.

01:01:38.220 Mike, is this going to pass?

01:01:42.900 It's going to pass, and we're going to make sure.

01:01:44.740 Look, it's going to pass because it has to pass.

01:01:47.700 And I'm not sure exactly what form the tax bill will take, but it's going to pass.

01:01:53.700 And I and my Republican colleagues in the Senate are going to make sure of it.

01:01:57.560 Mike, they were talking about potentially as an offset to an increased child tax credit

01:02:02.620 of having to increase the proposed corporate tax.

01:02:08.220 So it was 20%.

01:02:09.080 They're talking about 21%, 22%.

01:02:10.860 Is that going to be necessary to do the changes you're talking about?

01:02:14.860 This is one way to pay for it.

01:02:16.400 We are not necessarily wedded to that method of paying for it.

01:02:19.360 We're open to other suggestions.

01:02:20.760 I'd love to leave the corporate rate at 20% rather than 22%.

01:02:24.520 But as of right now, we've got to keep in mind that, as President Trump himself explained

01:02:29.540 to us at lunch the other day, 70% of the tax relief in this bill is for corporations,

01:02:34.160 leaving 30% of the relief bill for individuals.

01:02:37.460 This is one way of shifting more of that relief to individuals, especially to America's most

01:02:43.860 important entrepreneurial class of investors, that is, America's parents.

01:02:48.020 Do you believe that America's corporations feel comfortable enough in investing that money

01:02:55.960 in capital expenditures or investment in employees, or are they just going to roll those tax savings

01:03:07.100 into the market?

01:03:09.160 No, I think they're going to invest in a lot of things that will create jobs, and that's

01:03:12.900 why I'm pleased to offer corporate tax relief.

01:03:15.620 The corporate tax is itself kind of a devious thing, because it disguises some of the costs

01:03:20.960 of government.

01:03:21.920 People think taxes on corporations don't cost workers any money.

01:03:26.760 They do.

01:03:27.460 In fact, according to some economists, it may well be that half or so of corporate taxes

01:03:33.200 end up coming right out of workers' wages.

01:03:35.740 In any event, we know that when we tax corporations, we chill economic activity and have effects on

01:03:41.040 everyone, including America's middle-class taxpayers.

01:03:45.060 Is McCain going to stick with you guys?

01:03:47.420 I saw a story yesterday afternoon.

01:03:48.940 It looks like McCain's at it again, I think was the headline.

01:03:51.720 Is McCain...

01:03:52.500 Yeah, I saw that story, too.

01:03:55.040 It gives me nightmares.

01:03:56.460 I've had nightmares ever since that fateful night in July when he left his thumb hanging

01:04:02.460 in suspended animation, leaving us in...

01:04:05.840 We've turned the thumb down.

01:04:07.500 I want to make sure that doesn't happen again.

01:04:09.220 Look, I think he'll vote with us at the end of the day.

01:04:12.040 Even if he doesn't, we can lose him and still pass the thing without him.

01:04:16.200 Mike, I know you...

01:04:17.280 I'm glad you're talking about the payroll tax, because I think it's something that conservatives

01:04:19.960 don't get fired up enough about.

01:04:21.940 Here's a tax that is a regressive tax, meaning that people on the poor end of the scale pay

01:04:26.040 more than people on the high end of the income scale, which is something I can't believe

01:04:29.420 any progressive ever defends, but they seem to defend it.

01:04:32.700 And not only, it locks us into this idea, and a lot of conservatives, I think, fall for

01:04:37.920 it, which is these long-term giant programs that are supposedly funded through this, when

01:04:43.540 in reality, it kind of all goes into a big pot anyway.

01:04:46.040 These big programs are owed to us because of this separate tax.

01:04:51.060 We don't look at any other giant program the way we look at these entitlement programs,

01:04:55.280 and I think it's a real problem.

01:04:56.600 Is there any hope of attacking this payroll tax even more boldly?

01:05:01.280 Well, I think you made the point well, and this leads to a point I've been meaning to use

01:05:05.960 in my messaging with this, which is the best way to understand the Rubio-Lee amendment is

01:05:10.760 that it basically provides a tax cut with respect to payroll taxes.

01:05:17.620 And for some of the reasons that you identify, we've got to focus on this more than we do.

01:05:21.880 And just as importantly, a related point is that the people who would benefit most acutely

01:05:28.940 from the Rubio-Lee proposal would be those workers who are perhaps most at risk of falling

01:05:35.460 out of the workforce and choosing instead to go on welfare.

01:05:38.860 You know, parents with young children who are right at the edge economically of whether

01:05:44.920 or not they're going to decide it makes sense to continue working and instead stop and take

01:05:49.200 welfare benefits, we want to keep them in the workforce. 0.99

01:05:52.100 We want to give them plenty of opportunity to stay in the workforce so that they can benefit

01:05:58.580 themselves and their families so that they can get promotions and continue to make more

01:06:02.560 and be contributing members.

01:06:04.340 This would help incentivize them to do that and remove some of the incentives for them to

01:06:08.480 just go on welfare instead.

01:06:10.380 Mike, I want to switch gears with you and they'll let you go.

01:06:12.140 Matt Lauer was just let go.

01:06:15.940 Garrison Keillor was just let go.

01:06:19.440 And it's a little disturbing to me, A, that we're letting people go without any kind of

01:06:27.000 real due process.

01:06:29.160 It seems like this could get out of hand quickly if we're not really careful.

01:06:35.360 I mean, I'm glad bad guys are going away and I want this to be solved.

01:06:39.600 But it concerns me that there's no due process here.

01:06:44.100 However, the only ones that don't seem really affected by it are those in politics.

01:06:50.740 You know, on the Republican side, Roy Moore and Donald Trump on the on the liberal side.

01:06:57.920 It's John Conyer and and Al Franken.

01:07:01.340 They're not going anywhere.

01:07:03.500 Does that concern you, Mike?

01:07:04.920 Yeah, in politics, some things operate differently, quite tragically, reminding us of the meaning

01:07:12.180 of the word politics, break it down to its Greek roots, the poly, which means many and

01:07:16.860 ticks, which are blood sucking parasites.

01:07:19.420 A lot of what happens here.

01:07:20.920 Look, as to your first about due process, in the case of Matt Lauer, for instance, look,

01:07:26.980 he was fired by a private for profit corporation.

01:07:32.120 I assume he was an at will employee or if he wasn't an at will employee, that he had some

01:07:36.360 kind of provision in his contract allowing his employer to take this act.

01:07:39.260 He did this.

01:07:39.740 So speaking literally in constitutional terms, that means there isn't a due process issue,

01:07:46.240 due process in the lowercase sense of the word.

01:07:49.500 I assume that NBC, being well represented by capable attorneys, made sure that they dotted

01:07:55.440 their I's and crossed the T's and that they made sure that the facts were adequately substantiated

01:08:00.220 before taking this step.

01:08:03.200 Firing someone who holds public office is a little bit different because normally in most

01:08:08.760 circumstances to fire them, you have to wait until the next election.

01:08:11.940 But I suspect that there are going to be a whole lot of people getting fired by their

01:08:15.760 voters as these things continue to come out.

01:08:18.940 You believe that there's more to come out, Mike?

01:08:20.840 You've been there for a while.

01:08:23.400 Sadly, I come to suspect that there are.

01:08:27.440 I've been saddened and surprised by some of the horrible things that have been happening

01:08:33.180 and that seem to arise in circumstances where men will do really bad things.

01:08:38.760 In circumstances where they think they can get away with it, there aren't enough reasons

01:08:43.380 that they see not to do it.

01:08:44.780 And it's tragic.

01:08:46.180 It should not be that way.

01:08:48.840 But we've seen that at the top of news entertainment, media entertainment, and government and politics.

01:08:56.080 And it makes me a little nervous that if the people don't vote those people out, if they

01:09:03.080 decide that it doesn't matter, we're going to end up with some of the worst people in

01:09:08.680 the world, even worse than we have now in Washington, showing up because you'll literally

01:09:13.780 be able to get away with anything.

01:09:16.360 Yeah, I think that's right.

01:09:17.360 And that would be an absolutely unacceptable outcome.

01:09:20.700 Fortunately, Glenn, I don't think they'll happen for two independent reasons.

01:09:23.580 First, I think a lot of people are going to take themselves out of contention.

01:09:26.700 Perhaps most or all those people who are in government right now who are subject to these

01:09:30.980 accusations are going to decide it's time to hang it up.

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01:09:37.520 This is unacceptable.

01:09:38.700 They shouldn't elect people who will do awful things like this.

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01:11:43.400 Glenn, back.

01:11:52.520 Glenn, back.

01:11:53.620 So glad you've tuned in today.

01:11:57.380 For those of you who had Glenn's voice would be gone by the first hour, you're about to

01:12:02.560 lose even if you said the second hour.

01:12:05.360 I don't know if it'll last three, but we'll give it a shot.

01:12:09.000 Nice work so far.

01:12:09.900 Yeah, nice work.

01:12:10.600 Thank you.

01:12:11.000 So I'm just reading.

01:12:13.280 Now, Vanity Fair has just come out with something on Matt Lauer.

01:12:16.880 And this NBC apparently was had done a two month investigation.

01:12:25.020 Yeah, this is what makes you believe that NBC.

01:12:29.340 I mean, they didn't act this fast with Mark Halperin.

01:12:32.660 They didn't act this fast, certainly with Harvey Weinstein.

01:12:37.380 When they had that story in their own company and they gave it to the New Yorker for whatever

01:12:42.560 reason, they didn't act.

01:12:44.880 They took their time on a lot of that stuff here.

01:12:47.720 I mean, it was instant.

01:12:48.680 At least that's what they say.

01:12:50.840 I mean, if it's a two month investigation, it's hard to imagine that NBC didn't have wind

01:12:54.320 of it before Monday night.

01:12:55.980 Well, here's what they said.

01:12:56.660 Variety's reporters said that they didn't have to do specific interviews, that Lauer's

01:13:01.400 behavior was an open secret among the employees and the management.

01:13:06.220 And the management went out of its way to ignore his sexual impropriety.

01:13:12.740 I mean, it's not it's not good.

01:13:14.760 Yeah.

01:13:15.080 Now, Variety is claiming that there were they knew and NBC had complaints and they fell on

01:13:22.860 deaf ears at NBC from their employees.

01:13:25.940 NBC is saying, we just found out about it yesterday.

01:13:29.260 We swear.

01:13:30.840 And just the fact that how quickly they moved on a guy, they were paying twenty six million

01:13:34.780 dollars a year.

01:13:35.760 The Today Show in advertising brings in five hundred and eight million dollars a year in

01:13:42.380 revenue.

01:13:42.860 I'm telling you, you do not get a call at, you know, on a Sunday afternoon and say, hey,

01:13:49.040 somebody just filed a sexual harassment suit on Matt Lauer.

01:13:54.120 And by Monday morning, you have decided, OK, because of that one sexual harassment suit,

01:14:00.180 we're going to we're going to put at risk five hundred million dollars.

01:14:04.920 There's no way, especially irresponsible for the shareholders to do that.

01:14:08.920 Yeah.

01:14:09.920 And and it would be irresponsible just as a human.

01:14:14.780 Right.

01:14:14.960 Like you shouldn't these things that when they come in and we've heard various there's

01:14:20.320 various levels of this.

01:14:21.400 Right.

01:14:21.820 The New York Times reporter who made passes at a couple of women at bars.

01:14:26.480 They refuted him.

01:14:27.600 You know, they rejected him and he didn't do anything to to go after them.

01:14:32.060 And it was at a different job in his previous previous employer.

01:14:35.080 Like doesn't see.

01:14:36.500 I mean, look, this is this is much further.

01:14:38.860 This is Matt, apparently with several women dropping his pants and showing them his junk,

01:14:44.580 which women don't like. 1.00

01:14:45.700 I don't know who what guy thinks this is good, but they don't like it, guys.

01:14:50.820 They don't like it.

01:14:52.880 Glenn Beck.

01:15:00.480 Love.

01:15:02.040 Courage.

01:15:03.600 Truth.

01:15:04.020 Glenn Beck.

01:15:05.560 So the U.S. Air Force does a lot of things well, but data entry apparently is not one of them.

01:15:11.200 On Tuesday, the Air Force said that it found dozens of cases in which it failed to enter servicemen

01:15:16.440 who have been convicted of a crime into the National Criminal Information Center database.

01:15:22.180 Why is this important?

01:15:23.840 Well, you'll recall that the gunman who killed 26 people in Sutherland Springs earlier this month

01:15:29.080 was a former Air Force serviceman who had spent a year in military prison for assaulting his wife

01:15:34.840 and threatening to kill his stepson.

01:15:37.580 The Air Force admitted that his conviction had not been entered into the National Background

01:15:42.600 Check Database.

01:15:43.600 If his name had been in the database, it may have prevented him from being able to purchase a gun.

01:15:50.180 Instead, he passed all of his background checks and bought guns over the past two years.

01:15:55.260 Now the Air Force is doing an internal review of 60,000 cases that reach back to 2002,

01:16:01.420 and they say they're correcting several dozen records that should have been reported to the National Database.

01:16:08.100 The full review is going to take several months.

01:16:10.920 The Air Force negligence here is really, truly staggering.

01:16:14.480 The idea that they found, oh, look at here, another case.

01:16:18.900 Dozens where they failed to register convicted servicemen.

01:16:24.260 And that's just what they found so far and what they're telling us about.

01:16:27.740 And that's just one branch of the military.

01:16:30.660 What about all the other branches?

01:16:32.500 What about all the state and federal agencies?

01:16:35.020 How much more negligence is out there?

01:16:38.120 Enforcing the laws we already have is imperative.

01:16:41.140 But if we can't even depend on the Air Force for due diligence in this area, then we have a serious problem.

01:16:48.400 Can we come together on something we can agree on?

01:16:51.860 Redoubling our efforts across the board to enforce the gun laws that are in place now.

01:16:58.000 We have to be better than this.

01:17:01.080 Because every time that we're not, we chip away at all of our constitutional freedoms.

01:17:11.140 It's Thursday, November 30th.

01:17:17.940 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:20.660 Adam Foss is the founder and executive director of Prosecutor Impact.

01:17:25.920 A guy who never thought he was going to be a prosecutor.

01:17:30.100 I love this.

01:17:31.100 You're so honest.

01:17:32.540 You got into law.

01:17:34.520 You went to law school for?

01:17:36.280 Money.

01:17:36.740 My money.

01:17:37.720 I love that.

01:17:38.680 I love that.

01:17:39.080 And then you started seeing how the system really worked.

01:17:43.600 And you thought, this is broken.

01:17:46.780 This is really bad.

01:17:47.840 You want to explain?

01:17:49.300 Yeah.

01:17:49.800 First, thank you for getting into this conversation.

01:17:53.440 It's an important one that we need to be having and should be something that we're talking about more often than we already do.

01:17:58.300 When I walked into a courthouse for the first time in a city and saw a literal and figurative divide between the people who were constantly impacted by the criminal justice system and those people who were enforcing it, who were prosecuting, who were defending, who were judging, who were probating.

01:18:18.660 And the divide and the sort of tone deafness and the patriarchy of those folks, you could see the impact, the negative impact happening in the moment.

01:18:29.740 And yet we would tell ourselves that this is a great system.

01:18:33.460 This is working.

01:18:34.680 It's punishing people.

01:18:35.760 It's teaching them lessons.

01:18:37.340 It's creating safer communities was a falsity.

01:18:42.760 And so that's what drove me into the criminal justice system and the work that I continue to do today.

01:18:48.360 So you're a prosecutor now and you had a guy, I think Christopher was his name, right?

01:18:56.760 Yeah.

01:18:57.900 That that came in front of you as a prosecutor and you had a choice.

01:19:02.520 Tell me about this.

01:19:04.540 Christopher was a young person who made a series of really bad judgments and stole a bunch of laptops from his part time job and sold them for for a lot of money.

01:19:17.160 And he was going to use that money to apply for college.

01:19:23.200 And it's something that we don't talk enough about is how people some many times commit crime out of necessity or proceed necessity.

01:19:32.140 He came in a young black man who was charged with 30 counts of felony larceny and just the appearance of those things on his criminal record would have doomed him for life.

01:19:47.000 A young black man from my neighborhood being charged with 30 counts of theft.

01:19:51.000 You're not going to employ it anywhere.

01:19:52.800 And so at the at that point in time where I had to decide what to do with the case, because that's what the D.A. does.

01:19:59.740 I mean, the D.A. decides what the charges are, how you're going to handle it.

01:20:05.600 I mean, you're one guy, so one bad guy can make a whole bunch of bad decisions.

01:20:11.240 One good guy can make a lot of good decisions.

01:20:14.080 Yeah.

01:20:14.280 So you're in the you're in that you're looking at him and you're like, what are we going to do?

01:20:18.900 And how did you balance justice and mercy?

01:20:22.220 Yeah.

01:20:24.200 Justice to me and for for people who are in our justice system needs to be accounting for everything about that person and not just what does the law say and what happened and what will happen to them if we go down this road.

01:20:39.740 Is that is it just that this young man, because he made this decision based on his own calculation, should never get a job again?

01:20:46.240 And what is that going to do to us?

01:20:47.580 Is that going to make us a safer society if this kid is now 25 and unemployed?

01:20:52.000 And right.

01:20:53.140 So you have when considering what justice is, you need to be thinking about all these things in context.

01:20:59.380 And for me, the context was we still have the ability to teach this kid a lesson, which was ultimately what the justice system is built for, but we don't need to do so in a way that is purely punitive and hopefully we'll have a better outcome than sending him to jail.

01:21:13.180 So in this particular case did have a better outcome.

01:21:16.780 Explain the outcome.

01:21:18.140 He so we worked together and he worked with community based organizations to get himself into school.

01:21:26.660 He did community service.

01:21:28.020 He repaid what he had stolen from the store.

01:21:31.240 He got back laptops that he had stolen because he had tracked down the people on the Internet that he sold them to.

01:21:37.080 And then I lost track of him, which is actually a good thing in the criminal justice system.

01:21:40.020 It's a good thing never to see people again until, you know, six or seven years later, I'm at a professional men's event, men of color in the city of Boston.

01:21:49.940 And he this kid approaches me and it's the young man from court and I hadn't I didn't recognize me as an it was a grown man at this point.

01:21:56.600 And he had a very well paying job in Boston.

01:22:00.320 He owned a home.

01:22:01.620 He had a child that is going to not live in poverty.

01:22:05.340 And so all of these things were the result of decisions that I as one prosecutor and with the help of other colleagues made.

01:22:15.860 And we have the ability to do that every single day.

01:22:17.480 People people could be doing it right now.

01:22:19.060 So here's here.

01:22:22.340 I don't think anybody would disagree with the intent.

01:22:26.580 Yeah.

01:22:26.740 I mean, that's what the justice system is for to correct behavior.

01:22:31.800 And if behavior can't be corrected, then just take them off the streets.

01:22:35.880 Right.

01:22:36.020 However, we're living in a time now where, man, I I've I've really lost face faith in the justice system.

01:22:47.580 I mean, I can't I've always believed that justice was, you know, that it pretty much worked out.

01:22:53.300 I don't believe that anymore.

01:22:54.800 And I think it has been kind of a lie that I've lived my whole life.

01:22:58.240 It may be the best system in the world, but it still sucks.

01:23:03.060 Yeah.

01:23:04.840 But I don't.

01:23:05.860 But we're also living in a time where people.

01:23:08.960 They're not held accountable for anything.

01:23:11.320 Yeah.

01:23:11.680 So how do you balance that?

01:23:17.400 So accountability is a is a funny word that we use in the criminal justice system as prosecutors.

01:23:22.680 We use it all the time.

01:23:23.480 I'm holding this person accountable.

01:23:24.660 And for the suggestion that if I do something on December 1st, 2016, and then we litigate my responsibility for that thing for the course of a year or 18 months.

01:23:37.500 And then at the end of that thing, we either try the case or you plead out to that, which actually mitigates your responsibility in the action.

01:23:45.140 We call that we call that accountability.

01:23:47.900 And we only call that accountability because hundreds and hundreds of years ago, some white guys sitting around a table were like, this is how we're going to do it.

01:23:53.280 We didn't measure it and validate it and say, yes, this actually brings about accountability.

01:23:57.500 We just said punishment equals accountability.

01:23:59.680 And we've just done that forever.

01:24:01.940 And so where the criminal justice systems fails is by exchanging punishment for actual accountability.

01:24:09.440 And with Christopher, and Christopher is one example of thousands and thousands of people that I had the privilege to work with when I was a prosecutor.

01:24:19.540 For Christopher, accountability wasn't about getting a criminal record and go to jail and being deprived of his future.

01:24:27.460 Accountability was about every day him doing something that reminded him of the harm that he caused.

01:24:31.620 Christopher, you're going to write essays about what you did.

01:24:33.620 And I know that sounds sort of ethereal and trite, but no, some people would work with some people would work.

01:24:40.080 It works.

01:24:40.500 You'd be amazed at how many people it works with to actually talk about harm and let that person talk about why they created that harm and understand the gravity and depth of that harm and then work to repair that harm.

01:24:52.260 That's accountability.

01:24:52.760 Because it doesn't seem, though, I mean, because I think the argument would be, isn't everybody who steals a bunch of laptops now going to come up in front of you and say, hey, I needed him for college and I'm going to turn things around.

01:25:03.220 And eventually, if you let me go, I'm going to be a high paid person in Boston and it's all going to work out well.

01:25:08.260 How can you balance that?

01:25:09.360 Do you have to judge each specific case and just try to figure it out?

01:25:12.560 Does everyone get the same amount of chances?

01:25:14.960 The law obviously is supposed to treat everyone the same way.

01:25:17.240 How do you navigate that?

01:25:18.980 Well, first, it's like the fundamental principle that the law is supposed to treat everybody the same way.

01:25:23.160 We know it's a falsity.

01:25:25.540 But we want to work towards that, right?

01:25:26.860 We do.

01:25:27.900 But in the time that we do, the people who suffer the most from that fallacy are our most marginalized people.

01:25:35.160 And so.

01:25:35.740 And you would put marginalized in anybody who can't afford it, right?

01:25:38.800 Can't afford it.

01:25:39.300 It doesn't matter.

01:25:40.440 It doesn't matter your skin color.

01:25:42.600 It's all about.

01:25:43.380 It really is all about money.

01:25:44.780 It is.

01:25:45.320 It's about money.

01:25:46.100 It's about socioeconomic status.

01:25:47.320 It's about your capital and how much you are worth to the one percent, basically.

01:25:53.060 Stood to your question.

01:25:55.020 Sure.

01:25:55.460 Lots of people might say, hey, you know, I should get a break, too.

01:25:58.520 And as a society, we need to start asking ourselves, like, if young, poor black kids are coming up to me and saying, I stole laptops because I was poor.

01:26:05.780 Then maybe each case should get an individual look and say, I hear you.

01:26:11.420 And we have some responsibility for creating that situation.

01:26:14.580 So as a society, we need to be prepared to say, yeah, we're going to give you a bunch of chances because guess what?

01:26:19.540 Everybody sitting at this table got a million.

01:26:21.880 Everybody that is in Washington or in the media right now that suddenly are losing their jobs.

01:26:26.660 That was after hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of infractions that we just looked aside.

01:26:32.060 The place where there's the most amount of sexual violence, the most amount of physical violence, the most amount of drug use, the most amount of cheating and stealing is not in, you know, the impoverished neighborhoods of Detroit and Chicago and Boston.

01:26:45.620 And it's on college campuses.

01:26:47.420 And as a society, we are OK with that because we know that at some point this young person will grow out of this behavior.

01:26:53.240 It will be successful.

01:26:54.560 And most of that hopefully will stop.

01:26:58.940 So you are you you have you got into it for the money.

01:27:03.940 Then you left and you became a D.A.

01:27:06.940 And now you are trying to educate D.A.s all around the country to to what exactly?

01:27:18.680 One, it's it's not even to I guess it is to educate them, but but not in this not in the sense that I know more than them.

01:27:25.420 It is it is a tragedy what we deprive lawyers of when they want to go and do a public service in law school.

01:27:33.340 I didn't come out of law school prepared to be a prosecutor making really, really important decisions about people's lives because I didn't understand a thing about those people's lives.

01:27:41.400 Yeah, I didn't know anything about the collateral consequences of convictions or even arraigning a person.

01:27:46.720 I didn't know that if you were arraigned for a drug selling drugs in the city of Boston, just arraigned, not convicted, that you could lose your public housing and not just you, but everybody on the lease.

01:27:58.300 So if you are accused of selling drugs because you are poor to make money, the response of the justice system is to remove you from your public housing and make it to teach you a lesson.

01:28:12.700 How is that making us safer?

01:28:15.020 So it might make it more likely to go back to that behavior.

01:28:17.440 And so because you're it's the it's the classic story of of Jean Valjean.

01:28:23.800 Yes.

01:28:24.380 That, you know, you do you have your yellow ticket of leave?

01:28:26.960 And if you don't have your yellow ticket of leave, well, then, you know, I got to present it.

01:28:31.200 But if I present it, I ain't getting a job.

01:28:32.800 Right.

01:28:33.420 And and so for for prosecute, unfortunately, law schools aren't trying to reinvent sort of the way that they teach people, especially people who want to do this kind of work.

01:28:43.880 We shouldn't be learning about wills and trust in the States.

01:28:46.300 I learned that for a test.

01:28:48.220 I took the test and I've forgotten it all by now.

01:28:51.340 But my first day of work outside of law school, I went into a courtroom and I was being asked to decide whether or not somebody should go to jail because they might not return to court.

01:29:01.920 I knew nothing about crime or behavior or poverty or what happens when you go to jail.

01:29:08.340 In fact, lots of people that I worked around had never been into a jail or prison on our first day of work.

01:29:12.900 Do you watch the do you watch the show?

01:29:16.400 This is on Netflix.

01:29:18.760 It's about BoJack Horseman.

01:29:21.220 No, no, no.

01:29:22.180 It's about the FBI when they first started looking into serial killers.

01:29:27.140 And everybody said these guys.

01:29:30.240 Oh, Mindhunter.

01:29:31.140 Yeah, Mindhunter.

01:29:31.980 You should watch it.

01:29:33.160 OK, they were they were called, you know, crazy.

01:29:37.720 And you're just trying to babysit people like Charlie Manson.

01:29:40.880 And they're like, no, no, no.

01:29:42.080 We need to listen to them and understand them.

01:29:44.340 Yes.

01:29:44.540 Because maybe we can catch them.

01:29:45.900 Maybe we can change this behavior before it happens.

01:29:48.520 And it wasn't popular in the 1970s.

01:29:51.020 You kind of feel like that.

01:29:52.620 Yeah.

01:29:53.340 To me, it's crazy that formerly incarcerated people aren't employed by DA's offices.

01:29:59.320 Here we are, these very privileged people that have never been, you know, maybe once in a while we've been the victim of a crime.

01:30:04.560 And that makes us feel like we're in a better position to do these things.

01:30:07.820 But the most I've learned about the criminal justice system came from young, like kids that I prosecuted.

01:30:13.700 This one kid who I asked him what he was thinking when he committed a serious armed robbery told me, do you actually think that I left my house contemplating whether or not I would go to prison because I was going to rob these guys for money to give to my mother?

01:30:27.080 And he said to me, one of the most profound things I've ever heard.

01:30:29.100 He's like, you are in the land of the living.

01:30:31.480 The criminal, the criminal laws for the land of the living.

01:30:33.440 We are surviving.

01:30:34.220 17 years old, fifth grade reading level, the most important education I ever got in the criminal justice system.

01:30:42.140 And it wasn't from my $150,000 education.

01:30:46.140 And for those of us, again, who think that we are better than because we go to college and we go to law school and we get these degrees, that we should be meeting out justice and deciding what is safe for communities and not including people from those communities in those conversations is asinine.

01:31:01.520 How do people find you, Adam?

01:31:04.220 How do people, how do people join you and find out more about, I mean, you're, you're on, you know, your TED talk is popular and very, very good.

01:31:14.320 Thank you.

01:31:14.720 But if people wanted to reach out.

01:31:16.740 Yeah.

01:31:18.580 Prosecutorimpact.com is the website about my nonprofit that now is going around and doing trainings around the country of prosecutors.

01:31:24.640 Adam John Foss is my social media, everything.

01:31:28.660 And I want to hear from people.

01:31:31.180 I want people engaged in this conversation because we need to have an even broader conversation than, you know, I enjoy that people bring up Christopher all the time.

01:31:38.280 And I, I used the Christopher story because I knew it wouldn't turn people off right away.

01:31:41.700 But if we are being honest with each other about what we're going to do about mass incarceration, about the criminal justice system, we need to start talking about violent crime.

01:31:49.940 We need to parse out serial killers and serial rapists from young black and brown men and women who are shooting and killing each other because of intergenerational poverty and trauma. 0.80

01:32:01.100 If we really, really mean it as a country that we are embarrassed about this thing, then we have to have real conversations about that.

01:32:06.740 And you're not, and you're, you're not looking just for a bunch of yes people to, that just agree with you and butt kiss you, you want to be challenged.

01:32:14.100 Yeah.

01:32:14.320 I don't want to go.

01:32:15.180 I don't enjoy going to preach to the choir and everybody standing ovation.

01:32:18.380 That's, that's great.

01:32:19.460 That's not doing anything for the system.

01:32:21.780 And in fact, a lot of the rooms that I go to where people are, you know, cheering and rah, rah, rah.

01:32:26.940 As soon as the suggestion is, well, to solve this problem, you, you're going to have to give up a little bit of yours.

01:32:32.860 Conversations over.

01:32:33.980 So you talk about the, all the people who are like, yeah, close Rikers, close Rikers, close Rikers.

01:32:37.840 As soon as the, the idea was put out in the air that if we close Rikers down, we'll put five jails in each of the boroughs.

01:32:45.280 And because of zoning, those jails will have to go where you live, where you live. 0.99

01:32:49.340 People are like, uh, no, expand Rikers, expand Rikers.

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01:34:15.160 Adam Foss, the founder and executive director of Prosecutor Impact and a, and a, uh, DA up, uh, in, uh, Boston, who he, I saw him at a, at an event and he came up to me and he's like, I got to get a picture with you.

01:34:31.520 Cause my dad and I are such big fans and I, I, my dad has to have a picture of us together.

01:34:36.420 He was really nice guy.

01:34:38.140 Really nice guy.

01:34:38.540 And, you know, he talks about something, obviously we all know that the criminal justice system isn't perfect and there are a lot of problems.

01:34:43.800 And some of them need to be seriously addressed.

01:34:47.300 Uh, one of the approaches he has that I like is many people who talk about criminal justice reform, talk about it as if the prosecutors are just bad guys.

01:34:56.340 Like they have, they have this power structure.

01:34:58.340 They want to keep people down.

01:34:59.640 They want to, they're, they're, they have a visceral anger against people and they're always trying to, to, to, to personify that.

01:35:06.120 He talks about it in a different way and just says the incentives are out of line.

01:35:09.120 We don't need it.

01:35:09.580 It shouldn't be about racking up wins.

01:35:10.620 It should be about justice.

01:35:11.660 Good conversation.

01:35:13.800 Glenn Beck.

01:35:21.460 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

01:35:23.420 If you're not watching the show on the blaze TV, if you're not a subscriber, you need to become one.

01:35:27.220 Uh, every day, five o'clock we, um, we do a show and, um, we're doing the chalkboard and doing them in a different way.

01:35:35.320 We're breaking big ideas down and then we'll do a series of four this year.

01:35:39.180 This week it was a deep state and the fourth episode is happening tonight at five o'clock and you don't want to miss it.

01:35:46.440 You can binge on them.

01:35:47.920 Uh, if you're a subscriber at, uh, the blaze.com slash TV.

01:35:51.920 But this one is about the deep state and it's, it's fascinating because we hear, you know, it's the deep state and you think of, you know, the star chamber and everything else.

01:36:01.420 We do have a deep state problem here in America, but it is not the star chamber kind of deep state.

01:36:08.080 And it's important that, you know, um, the difference between the two and you know how to stop it.

01:36:16.240 And this one can be stopped, but it takes, it takes all of us.

01:36:20.420 And I would suggest that it would take all of us to vote for people that don't want to send photos of their junk to other people.

01:36:30.220 Um, well, you've just eliminated half the population.

01:36:33.600 Apparently so.

01:36:34.440 Except in this room, um, I am under no impression at all that women want to see my junk and no, I, I, even if I were wildly in shape, I don't believe that women would want to see the junk.

01:36:50.380 Um, I don't, I don't know why guys keep sending pictures of their junk to people, but that's what apparently happened with Matt Lauer is, uh, he sent pictures of himself, uh, or parts of him, uh, or a specific part of him, uh, to a woman.

01:37:08.500 And she kept it.

01:37:09.480 And then that's what she showed Monday night to NBC management.

01:37:13.160 So that's why it went so fast.

01:37:14.340 That's why, that's why they were able to fire him so fast.

01:37:16.760 Now, were they, you know, was, did they give him an opportunity to have a lineup or anything?

01:37:24.120 I don't think that's how it works.

01:37:26.240 I don't know.

01:37:27.120 I'm having a hard time recognizing because they all look alike.

01:37:32.200 That's what I don't understand is, yeah, I've got the most attractive penis on earth.

01:37:36.740 I don't know.

01:37:37.180 She's going to love it when I send this.

01:37:40.080 Here's a surprise.

01:37:41.200 They're not attractive.

01:37:42.260 It's not good to look at.

01:37:43.540 Okay.

01:37:43.920 And they all look alike.

01:37:45.080 And it's not, the light should be off.

01:37:48.820 Yes.

01:37:49.220 And it's just, yeah, it's not a good thing.

01:37:51.600 It's an argument for darkness.

01:37:53.220 The male anatomy is an argument for darkness. 1.00

01:37:54.960 It really is.

01:37:55.640 It's interesting.

01:37:56.440 There's nothing we talk about that makes me feel older than when you hear these conversations

01:38:02.120 about how, oh, this person is sexted a picture of their junk to this woman.

01:38:06.740 Why on earth would you think that's a, I don't know when, when did that start?

01:38:11.000 Now, Lauer's older than us.

01:38:12.200 How old is he, he's at his, what is he, 60?

01:38:15.280 Yeah.

01:38:15.740 60, 62, somewhere in there.

01:38:17.260 And I, what on earth would possess you to think it was a good idea as a multi, you're 1.00

01:38:23.780 making $26 million a year.

01:38:25.500 You're one of the most well-known people in America to sext a picture of your junk to

01:38:30.260 some woman. 1.00

01:38:31.420 What a dumb, dumb thing to do.

01:38:32.640 No, no.

01:38:33.020 You thought Martha Stewart was dumb trying to save 60 grand. 1.00

01:38:36.240 Yeah.

01:38:36.440 He just wanted to show his junk to somebody.

01:38:39.300 Right.

01:38:39.640 I mean, how stupid is that?

01:38:40.880 So weird.

01:38:42.340 So weird.

01:38:42.680 And I don't, I really don't understand it.

01:38:45.420 I mean, guys, listen, Victoria's secret.

01:38:50.160 Okay.

01:38:50.660 Yeah.

01:38:51.220 It's, it's really just for the guys.

01:38:53.300 The girls, the women don't necessarily love it. 1.00

01:38:55.980 Okay.

01:38:56.280 It's for us.

01:38:57.340 So there's a reason there's not a Victor's secret.

01:39:00.940 Okay.

01:39:01.380 They don't want to see it.

01:39:03.060 Oh, let me run this theory by you.

01:39:04.300 Pat and I, when you were out yesterday, kind of discussed this a little bit.

01:39:07.860 I think guys do this because they think that's what they want.

01:39:13.500 Right.

01:39:13.700 Remember every really bad penthouse letter from back in the day.

01:39:17.400 It always started with, they just, guys would just walk over.

01:39:20.000 They'd be delivering pizza.

01:39:21.400 They'd walk over to somebody's house.

01:39:22.840 I never thought these stories were true until it happened to me.

01:39:26.460 Right.

01:39:26.740 And they, and they walked it like, you know, you walk into someone's house for a meeting

01:39:30.560 and the unbelievably hot boss walks out in her underwear. 1.00

01:39:34.480 Like guys think that's awesome, but women don't think John Conyers walking out in his

01:39:40.500 underwear is awesome.

01:39:42.280 Is it possible that guys are just trying to, you know, they think this would be a positive

01:39:48.500 when it is not.

01:39:49.380 Do you think women would find that awesome with any male? 1.00

01:39:55.000 Like if you're, you know, Brad Pitt and you're walking out in your underwear.

01:40:00.580 Well, I probably, I mean, we, we were just, I was just seeing a video online.

01:40:04.440 It was posted of NBC apparently at the Olympics in Rio and bring, bring out, trotting out this

01:40:13.060 guy.

01:40:13.700 I think it was a Tonga and he was in the lineup and he came out and he's all oiled up and

01:40:18.620 glistening and his body's amazing.

01:40:20.880 And they're just, the whole interview, they're just rubbing their hands all over his chest

01:40:26.800 and back during the interview.

01:40:28.600 There's rub to women, multiple women walking up to the guy and just rubbing their hands 1.00

01:40:33.060 all over his body.

01:40:34.900 Now this is the same organization, of course, is firing people left and right for various

01:40:41.340 levels of sexual harassment.

01:40:43.180 Now he doesn't seem to be opposing it, but isn't there a power structure there?

01:40:46.800 Does the guy from Tonga have the same power as NBC anchors shouldn't, I mean, aren't they

01:40:52.480 put in this, uh, matriarchal, uh, society that we've just, this power structure, power 1.00

01:40:59.220 structure.

01:40:59.720 I mean, imagine Tonga, you're going to, you're the guy from Tonga and you're going to say

01:41:03.520 something to the women of NBC and you're going to turn NBC against Tonga. 1.00

01:41:08.040 You can't turn them down like that.

01:41:09.600 They're too powerful.

01:41:10.760 I mean, these same arguments can be made, but everybody knows that guys aren't necessarily

01:41:15.840 opposed to that.

01:41:17.500 He didn't see, he didn't look like he was opposed to it in the footage.

01:41:21.160 I mean, if you're, you can't assume though, you can't assume, you can't assume.

01:41:23.900 And again, even if they are, this is the standard set with Louis CK, Louis CK.

01:41:28.500 And, uh, who was the other one?

01:41:30.020 Still in trouble.

01:41:30.680 The other, the other day to say, oh, uh, Al Franken in the interview from last night

01:41:34.660 where he says, uh, my intent doesn't matter.

01:41:37.780 It's just matters what they feel about the experience.

01:41:39.800 That's not true.

01:41:40.400 Louis CK said they, I never did anything that they didn't agree to, but I should have known because

01:41:44.200 I was admired in a powerful comedian that they couldn't say no to my question of whether

01:41:49.400 we wanted to, because they had no power of consent.

01:41:52.080 And it's interesting because Lauer has, one of his accusers is similar.

01:41:56.600 Uh, it goes beyond, uh, what Louis CK did.

01:42:00.440 But, uh, in September Lauer asked, um, in, that's not, that's the right, that's not the

01:42:07.160 right one.

01:42:07.500 Um, so they, one of the, two of the accusers have come forward since all of this broke.

01:42:13.440 And one of them claims that Lauer summoned her to his office for sex.

01:42:18.600 And she told the New York times, she quote, felt helpless because she didn't want to lose

01:42:23.580 her job.

01:42:24.620 So you did have sex with him.

01:42:28.520 You're not helpless.

01:42:29.740 Whether you felt it or not, you don't have to say yes.

01:42:32.700 Well, hang on just a second.

01:42:34.380 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:42:35.140 Some kind of, that's a, wait, it's really an interesting dynamic in this.

01:42:39.160 It is.

01:42:39.500 We've taken away the agency from women. 1.00

01:42:41.460 They're not allowed to say, like, they're not allowed to say no.

01:42:44.480 They're not allowed to make those decisions.

01:42:46.340 If, if the, if the power structure looks the other way, they don't really have a choice.

01:42:55.000 I mean, if they want to lose their job.

01:42:57.680 Yeah.

01:42:57.840 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 If they want to keep their job, if they value their job over, over this experience, then

01:43:04.680 they do now.

01:43:06.740 But if that's the case years later, is it okay to come forward and say he raped me?

01:43:11.440 I, it was consensual or you at least negotiated it was consensual, negotiated the price, which

01:43:18.480 apparently was your job.

01:43:19.580 Are you just assumed you negotiated the price?

01:43:22.500 I think a lot of times that's implied.

01:43:24.420 It's not even spoken.

01:43:25.740 Yeah, because if it's spoken, it's, it's outwardly criminal or at least a huge violation.

01:43:31.300 But if you're just assuming you feeling helpless, that's not the same thing as being helpless.

01:43:36.420 I think I'm more of a feminist than some of these women are. 1.00

01:43:39.460 I think they're stronger than this.

01:43:41.880 Yeah.

01:43:42.260 We talked about this a little bit yesterday, Glenn, and I'd love to get your thoughts on

01:43:45.540 this.

01:43:45.720 Not sure.

01:43:46.080 I'm not.

01:43:46.560 Hang on just a second.

01:43:47.300 I'm just pondering what's, uh, what Pat said.

01:43:49.780 I'm not.

01:43:50.500 I do believe that's true now.

01:43:52.420 Well, I'm not sure that that was true five years ago, but this is why, this is how I

01:43:57.520 kind of, we were talking about this a little bit yesterday.

01:44:00.140 If, if Tanya had a job and she worked at a, an organization and the most powerful man

01:44:07.240 in the company, you really needed the money.

01:44:08.460 You couldn't lose that job.

01:44:09.280 The most powerful man in the company came to her and said, look, we're going to have

01:44:12.080 sex right now. 0.67

01:44:13.220 Didn't say even anything about the job.

01:44:15.160 And she felt, she felt, he would be dead.

01:44:17.620 Right.

01:44:17.840 And you, and you, but when, if she did it, you'd be pissed at him for sure. 0.98

01:44:22.940 But you would also be pissed at her.

01:44:25.100 Oh, I'd be more pissed at her. 1.00

01:44:26.140 Right.

01:44:26.440 If it was my wife, I'd be more pissed at her. 1.00

01:44:27.240 I'd be like, what you, what?

01:44:28.740 That's not as important.

01:44:29.520 You know better than that.

01:44:30.300 That's not important to me.

01:44:31.340 Your job and the money is not important to me.

01:44:33.520 Right.

01:44:33.700 So it's, it's interesting because what, what the media is implying about these cases is essentially

01:44:38.940 these women are, are making a cost benefit analysis in which they're putting up their, 1.00

01:44:43.240 their sexual lives at a lower priority than advancement in their career.

01:44:50.060 Yeah.

01:44:50.500 And that is a, a quite an accusation to make against these women.

01:44:56.000 Yes.

01:44:57.200 However, we're looking at it from the side of a, I mean, Pat, if I would have told you

01:45:04.540 two months ago that 40 names and some of the biggest names in, in the industry, in Hollywood

01:45:12.080 and in, uh, and in, uh, news and entertainment, 40 of the biggest names have been fired because

01:45:21.580 of sexual being sexual predators.

01:45:23.580 Would you have believed me?

01:45:25.180 No, no, no way.

01:45:26.800 No way.

01:45:27.780 No.

01:45:28.260 So not only that we would have never thought that they would have actually gone through

01:45:33.480 with it.

01:45:34.500 Um, but also I am shocked at the number of guys that are doing this.

01:45:40.540 You know, the guys who you think, you know, Matt Lauer, you may disagree with him, but

01:45:44.720 I don't think he's a predator.

01:45:46.340 You know what I mean?

01:45:47.160 And he's doing this.

01:45:48.540 And then you find out he is.

01:45:49.520 You find out he is.

01:45:50.520 Like Anthony Wiener.

01:45:51.280 We all knew that that was going on.

01:45:53.100 Not because we'd ever heard a specific rumor, but just because he was so slimy, you just assumed

01:45:58.380 it was occurring.

01:45:59.020 Yeah.

01:45:59.360 Okay.

01:45:59.580 So, so we're, we're looking at this and not having this experience at all.

01:46:05.680 Um, and seeing this stuff now going, this is going on for women, especially in those 0.99

01:46:11.300 industries.

01:46:12.320 It's been going on for a very long time.

01:46:15.120 Sure.

01:46:15.480 And, you know, the casting couch has been going on for a very long time.

01:46:20.380 And if there's no one up above, you know, imagine when, when Roger Ailes was the guy

01:46:25.700 and you knew that Rupert Murdoch was getting a billion dollars a year because of Roger Ailes.

01:46:31.760 You think he's going to believe you?

01:46:33.780 You think anything's going to matter to you?

01:46:36.880 No, take the money and shut up. 1.00

01:46:38.360 But again, I mean, there's a level of that argument and I understand and I agree, generally 0.97

01:46:42.740 speaking, but there's a level of that argument that is saying you should, you should, you

01:46:48.420 should choose, uh, this, uh, horrible incident, uh, in, in, in play it just to make sure you

01:46:56.020 keep your job.

01:46:56.820 Yeah.

01:46:56.940 And there's, there's worse things than losing your job.

01:46:59.040 That choice should never be presented to a woman ever. 1.00

01:47:03.060 It shouldn't.

01:47:03.740 Or a man.

01:47:04.240 Obviously, we all know that.

01:47:04.860 Or a man.

01:47:05.880 Um, but we know that it has happened.

01:47:07.220 Happening far too often.

01:47:07.780 And we shouldn't assume that, oh, well, I guess, you know, well, they, they, I, they

01:47:11.560 didn't have a choice.

01:47:12.100 They had to have sex with him. 0.98

01:47:13.040 Like, no, you don't, you, and, and, and how many people, we talked about this yesterday,

01:47:16.780 how many people were affected, um, you know, by someone like this, you know, especially

01:47:22.180 with like the Weinstein stuff.

01:47:23.120 You talked about this on Pat Gray Unleashed, uh, I think it was two days ago about the woman

01:47:26.840 who said, I had sex with Harvey Weinstein to get this role.

01:47:31.160 So, A, how many people, because she never reported that at the time and never talked

01:47:34.840 about it at the time, um, how many people did that happen to afterwards?

01:47:38.360 Many.

01:47:38.620 And secondarily, who's the woman that should have had that role in the movie that didn't 0.74

01:47:43.620 get it because this woman decided to have sex with Harvey Weinstein, right? 0.77

01:47:48.000 Like somebody else is affected there.

01:47:49.880 The person in the, you know, like when you have the, when you have the celebrity who wants

01:47:53.100 to try out for the major leagues, there's someone who actually deserves to get the try

01:47:56.460 out that doesn't get the try out.

01:47:58.520 But that's what they're thinking.

01:47:59.940 That's what you're thinking when you're, if you are in a place, um, let's say Fox news

01:48:06.120 or NBC or Weinstein, where if the guy at the top wants to have sex with you and you don't,

01:48:13.800 there's a whole line of women that will, then you have to decide who you are. 1.00

01:48:18.280 Yeah.

01:48:19.260 And that's unfortunate.

01:48:21.580 It's unfortunate.

01:48:22.280 Um, you know, you shouldn't decide that, but what I'm, what I'm concerned with is not

01:48:28.200 the ones who have decided to just put up with it.

01:48:30.880 Uh, I I'm, uh, concerned about the ones who didn't, but didn't feel comfortable that they

01:48:37.960 could say anything.

01:48:38.840 They just avoid, they got away from him and then just avoided him, but they couldn't, you

01:48:44.280 know, they didn't feel comfortable saying anything.

01:48:46.020 And so it was a hostile atmosphere.

01:48:48.600 Imagine somebody doing that to you and then, uh, you not being able to say anything, but

01:48:55.580 he's not a predator towards you anymore, but you know what happened last time and you just

01:49:00.600 avoid each other.

01:49:01.560 Imagine the pit that's in your stomach that you go to work with every day.

01:49:04.760 Yeah, that's not right.

01:49:05.600 And that's, I mean, I think generally speaking, right over this whole thing with the last few

01:49:09.820 months, there's going to be a lot of really good outcomes.

01:49:13.640 I think from this, a lot of really bad people going away, a lot of really good changes in

01:49:17.980 the workplace, a lot of really good things that we maybe didn't notice or understand before

01:49:22.060 that are coming to light that now we can address.

01:49:24.100 And hopefully men won't take this chance anymore.

01:49:25.860 Yeah.

01:49:26.280 Hopefully they won't, they won't stop texting.

01:49:28.280 However, let me, let me, let me.

01:49:30.540 That's a good safety tip.

01:49:31.360 Never take a picture of your wiener.

01:49:33.320 Never, never, never.

01:49:34.460 Just don't do it.

01:49:35.240 Even if a doctor says to you, I want to take a picture of your wiener, say no.

01:49:38.880 Nope.

01:49:39.360 Yeah.

01:49:39.680 In fact, if they, even if it's an x-ray or.

01:49:42.620 Yeah.

01:49:42.980 Just say whatever happens to what happens.

01:49:44.960 If there's something broken in there, I just won't know.

01:49:47.060 If I've got cancer in there or something, it'll just fall off.

01:49:49.620 Don't worry about it, Doc.

01:49:50.700 It's not a problem.

01:49:51.420 More discussion about what parts of your body you should take pictures with coming up on Pat Gray Unleashed on the Blaze Radio and TV network.

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The Glenn Beck Program - November 30, 2017

11⧸30⧸17 - Chipping away our freedoms (Ajit Pai, Adam Foss & Sen. Mike Lee join Glenn)

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