The Glenn Beck Program - 12⧸28⧸17 - Slow Death of Traditional Media

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, love, courage, truth, Glenn Beck.

00:00:13.800 In years to come, I will look back on 2017 fondly as the year when most people finally

00:00:21.040 became aware of something that you and I have been aware of for years, the concept of fake

00:00:27.960 news.

00:00:28.460 Hi there, it's Doc Thompson, pinch hitting for Glenn today.

00:00:31.480 Appreciate you joining me.

00:00:32.780 The media rabidly has objected over the last 12 months to the concept of fake news.

00:00:38.960 They point at President Trump and his creative tweeting, some of the creative ways he expresses

00:00:45.480 himself when he calls people out, they object to it.

00:00:49.000 See, for many, many years, the media had their own little world.

00:00:54.140 The media was really a collection of newspapers.

00:00:59.860 Yeah, you had small town newspapers, but it was really the big town, dominant few newspapers,

00:01:06.060 along with a couple of networks, three primary networks, ABC, NBC, CBS.

00:01:12.640 A handful of successful magazines like Time.

00:01:17.900 And they controlled the media.

00:01:20.540 The media was filled with progressives.

00:01:24.020 But they had their own little fiefdom.

00:01:25.960 And there was very little way to challenge them.

00:01:30.760 You had alternative newspapers, but they were always seen as kind of rags and discredited.

00:01:37.020 And then along comes the internet.

00:01:38.580 People can finally express themselves without those limitations.

00:01:45.000 The media hated it.

00:01:46.980 And along came people like Glenn Beck, who started his own company, and TheBlaze.com.

00:01:52.400 Able to express other opinions and ideas and share facts that are conveniently left out by the

00:02:02.060 journalists.

00:02:03.520 That's the way it was, Walter Cronkite journalist.

00:02:08.960 Who would have the world believe that they know the truth.

00:02:14.500 That they're not biased.

00:02:16.180 They're presenting facts.

00:02:19.320 And people like Glenn and TheBlaze were able to present not just facts that were left out,

00:02:25.480 but stories that were omitted completely.

00:02:29.200 That told the entire story.

00:02:32.200 And that's been great over the last 5, 6, 8, 10 years.

00:02:37.920 To see other companies and other media outlets that are based primarily online be able to do that.

00:02:45.760 But 2017, and thanks to Donald Trump for finally calling these people out on their own platforms,

00:02:54.620 challenging those reporters.

00:02:55.900 And as much as, at times, I think it's not presidential, that isn't who I envision being somebody who would turn America for the better in a different direction.

00:03:08.060 Because I think of somebody being presidential more like a Ronald Reagan.

00:03:13.340 A communicator like John F. Kennedy.

00:03:17.600 People like that.

00:03:18.660 Presidential.

00:03:20.660 At least he challenged them.

00:03:24.100 And called them out for fake news.

00:03:27.740 For that, I'll be forever grateful.

00:03:30.380 Now, the good news about it, they continue to object.

00:03:35.460 They continue, the media continues to pretend that they're journalists and unbiased.

00:03:42.560 They have entire campaigns that center around, this is not fake news.

00:03:49.720 CNN has an entire campaign.

00:03:52.080 This is an Apple.

00:03:53.040 You can say it's something else, but it's really an Apple.

00:03:55.960 It's still an Apple.

00:03:56.900 People, they're reacting.

00:04:01.520 You know what that shows?

00:04:03.160 If they're reacting to the claims of fake news, they know that they have to.

00:04:08.480 That people are getting it.

00:04:10.260 They've got to continue.

00:04:11.700 Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

00:04:14.800 This is what's real.

00:04:17.400 They had to do it.

00:04:19.600 So they're trying to market people back into believing that they have the facts.

00:04:23.980 That they're not fake news.

00:04:26.900 But they're not actually changing.

00:04:31.740 So, what does the future hold for them?

00:04:36.500 The slow death of traditional media.

00:04:41.460 Which is a good thing.

00:04:43.720 Be gone with you.

00:04:45.220 I welcome varying opinions.

00:04:49.760 I want them.

00:04:51.180 You probably do.

00:04:52.640 You probably listen to a show like this because you know on the Glenn Beck radio program, you're going to get solid conservative and libertarian values.

00:04:59.800 You may not agree with all of them, even if you're a libertarian and conservative.

00:05:03.300 You may not agree with them, but you know they're coming from the same place.

00:05:09.640 But you probably, at times, will flip over to an MSNBC.

00:05:14.820 Maybe you pick up that New York Times or Washington Post or read an article.

00:05:19.100 But you know when you do it, where it's coming from.

00:05:23.580 It's filtered through a progressive lens.

00:05:27.500 So you know what's going on.

00:05:28.940 You know their ideas.

00:05:30.840 You hear what they're arguing.

00:05:33.260 I appreciate that on my morning radio program at theblaze.com slash radio.

00:05:38.320 That's what we do.

00:05:39.780 I welcome on anybody with varying opinions.

00:05:42.460 I'm going to ask tough questions, but I'll be respectful.

00:05:45.480 Glenn does that on this program all the time.

00:05:47.720 So it's not about a biased media.

00:05:52.920 Media is biased.

00:05:54.660 You're never going to get rid of all of your biases.

00:05:57.400 It's impossible for a reporter or anchor to get rid of all of their biases.

00:06:04.200 They can struggle.

00:06:05.700 They can present other sides.

00:06:07.440 They can do a good job.

00:06:09.460 It's not to pretend that you're not.

00:06:13.280 The solution always is.

00:06:17.100 Sunlight.

00:06:18.680 Transparency.

00:06:19.600 Honesty.

00:06:20.320 The truth.

00:06:22.080 Lead with your biases.

00:06:24.320 This is who we are.

00:06:26.020 This is what we believe.

00:06:27.920 We will present facts.

00:06:30.180 We will present stories, opinions, and ideas.

00:06:33.380 But no.

00:06:34.400 This is who we are.

00:06:35.980 This is where we're coming from.

00:06:38.160 And anybody who doesn't do that has an agenda.

00:06:42.780 The agenda is trickery.

00:06:46.760 It's not journalism.

00:06:50.440 It's fooling you.

00:06:52.580 It's fooling other people.

00:06:55.020 To sway opinion.

00:06:56.940 My opinions, my values as a conservative and libertarian are strong enough, are right enough, have been vetted enough and challenged year after year, over and over on a daily basis.

00:07:11.200 I'm confident of that, that I can express them.

00:07:15.380 You can challenge them.

00:07:18.080 They're ironclad.

00:07:19.360 So I don't have to hide.

00:07:22.880 I don't have to pretend that I'm unbiased in this.

00:07:27.240 I'm incredibly biased, and I should be, and you should as well.

00:07:31.620 If you're not, what's wrong with you?

00:07:33.480 Have you no opinion?

00:07:35.260 Have you no information?

00:07:38.000 Have you no passion?

00:07:38.920 The solution is transparency.

00:07:42.960 Lead with who you are.

00:07:46.220 The traditional media does not do that.

00:07:49.240 You know, at the founding of America, we didn't have, of course, television and radio and internet.

00:07:56.440 Where did people get their news?

00:07:58.700 Word of mouth.

00:07:59.320 You went to your church or your gathering, your community, a town crier.

00:08:03.700 People would go out on the town square and report the news and share the news.

00:08:08.780 Then there was printed, and people would post news.

00:08:12.760 Those were the early newspapers.

00:08:14.640 And eventually they got newspapers with a distribution, and they'd reprint throughout the day.

00:08:19.800 If you look at many of those early newspapers, they led with their bias right in the title.

00:08:25.180 They would tell you who they are.

00:08:29.320 When did it become journalism?

00:08:35.340 The idea of journalism came about from progressives who wanted to hide because they wanted to sway opinion,

00:08:47.040 knowing that their values, their ideas were not as solid.

00:08:51.720 They eventually, even their own ideas, run into conflict with themselves,

00:08:55.500 that they had to offer some sort of trickery in order to get people to pay attention,

00:09:02.820 to go along with it, to manipulate people.

00:09:07.160 I offer an example.

00:09:12.900 A quick backstory about something at the White House you probably didn't know a whole lot about.

00:09:19.200 The election of 1824 was a pretty rough one.

00:09:23.620 Andrew Jackson running for president.

00:09:26.520 John Quincy Adams running for president.

00:09:30.460 Andrew Jackson won a plurality of electoral votes in 1824, but not a majority.

00:09:36.600 And it got kind of ugly because, as per the 12th Amendment,

00:09:39.920 the House of Representatives decided on president, and they picked John Quincy Adams,

00:09:43.840 even though Andrew Jackson had more electoral votes.

00:09:49.540 Of course, that didn't sit real well with Andrew Jackson, so he runs four years later.

00:09:53.800 So, the election of 1824, pretty rough.

00:09:57.240 1828, really pretty nasty betwixt the two of them.

00:10:00.420 And because of some deals that were made, and people jockeying,

00:10:06.740 Andrew Jackson becomes president in 1828.

00:10:09.880 Just days after his election, his wife dies.

00:10:15.300 His wife, Rachel, had been pretty rough.

00:10:17.000 He blamed those contentious elections, at least partially, on her debt.

00:10:21.540 And as part of his mourning, when he moved into the White House,

00:10:25.040 he took a seedling from his wife's favorite tree on their farm in Tennessee,

00:10:30.800 and he planted it.

00:10:32.140 Beautiful magnolia tree.

00:10:33.860 Planted it at the White House.

00:10:35.580 And it grew and grew and grew over the years.

00:10:38.080 So, if you look at the White House, it's the magnolia tree off to the left.

00:10:43.100 Now, years later, they planted another one on the right to kind of balance it out.

00:10:46.460 But it is recognized as part of the White House aesthetics.

00:10:52.100 It's almost iconic.

00:10:53.380 Like the Andrew Jackson magnolia tree.

00:10:57.300 Over the last 10 years or so, the tree has been dying.

00:11:00.980 It's in horrible shape.

00:11:02.280 They've done everything they can.

00:11:03.420 They've got steel cables that keep it up.

00:11:06.240 And the experts came in recently and said,

00:11:08.980 listen, if not for these steel cables holding it up on every side,

00:11:11.860 it would have fallen years ago.

00:11:13.380 It's got to go.

00:11:14.740 It's completely dependent.

00:11:16.120 This is the U.S. National Arboretum that did the evaluation.

00:11:21.620 So, they went to the president and first lady.

00:11:23.380 And they said, this tree is, you know, it's gone.

00:11:26.940 What do you want to do?

00:11:28.300 So, they suggested it be removed.

00:11:31.300 Alania Trump signed off on it.

00:11:34.780 The media spun it as in,

00:11:37.700 Alania Trump cuts down historic tree at the White House.

00:11:42.680 What good are you doing?

00:11:49.840 Why are you reporting it that way?

00:11:51.480 There's only one reason you report it that way.

00:11:55.140 It was not her decision.

00:11:57.280 She's not a botanist.

00:11:58.920 She didn't make the decision.

00:12:00.780 It's not an anti-green thing.

00:12:02.700 She's not destroying the White House.

00:12:04.520 It doesn't matter if you like the Trumps or hate them.

00:12:06.580 The fact is,

00:12:08.040 most first ladies would have made the same decision.

00:12:12.500 Hey, we should cut this thing down.

00:12:14.440 It's falling down anyways.

00:12:15.520 We'll do something else.

00:12:16.380 We'll come up with it.

00:12:17.320 It could be a problem.

00:12:18.480 Could cause other problems.

00:12:20.020 You know, it would have fallen down years ago.

00:12:22.080 All right.

00:12:22.640 Take it down.

00:12:23.280 We'll come up with something else.

00:12:25.840 First ladies make changes to the White House all the time.

00:12:29.100 This was not her decision exclusively.

00:12:31.580 She just offered the final yes, go ahead.

00:12:35.260 The Independent reported it this way.

00:12:37.840 Melania Trump orders White House tree from the 1800s to be cut down.

00:12:42.420 Raw Story tweeted this headline.

00:12:44.860 Melania Trump orders removal of 200-year-old tree,

00:12:48.300 the oldest at the White House.

00:12:50.740 Elite Daily.

00:12:52.300 A White House tree is being cut down at Melania Trump's decision.

00:12:57.100 Melania Trump is anti-green.

00:12:59.500 Right, Gal, do you see how they're presenting this?

00:13:02.320 This is fake news.

00:13:04.680 This is exactly what her husband has talked about.

00:13:09.600 Keep leading with stuff like this, guys.

00:13:12.320 You're only destroying yourself.

00:13:14.740 And that is a good thing.

00:13:19.680 Glenn Beck.

00:13:27.500 Glenn Beck.

00:13:29.500 It's Doc Thompson in for Glenn today.

00:13:31.520 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:13:32.920 Talking about the media bias when it came to something as simple as a tree

00:13:37.540 having to be removed from the White House because it's dying anyways

00:13:41.120 and could cause some other trouble.

00:13:42.860 And it being blamed on Melania Trump.

00:13:46.040 It's funny.

00:13:46.760 I saw over the weekend,

00:13:47.840 some people were commenting on some things I posted about Glenn

00:13:52.600 always commenting how he didn't vote for Donald Trump.

00:13:55.020 And I'm sure you got sick of Glenn talking about Donald Trump during the campaign,

00:13:59.980 as did I.

00:14:01.440 And you're probably sick of him reminding you he didn't vote for him.

00:14:04.220 But that's part of that transparency.

00:14:06.600 I, too, did not vote for Donald Trump because I vote for people with a track record.

00:14:12.340 And the president didn't have any.

00:14:14.040 I certainly didn't vote for Hillary.

00:14:15.380 And I often remind people of this just so you know that if I praise the president,

00:14:19.800 it's not coming from some sycophant.

00:14:22.800 But also when I criticize him, I have offered praise at times.

00:14:27.420 This is the consistency that I'm talking about.

00:14:29.780 But we tell you this because we want you to know our biases so you understand.

00:14:32.920 In spite of that, it's interesting to see how the media has spun such a simple story.

00:14:45.100 It could have been simply historic decaying White House tree will be removed.

00:14:50.360 Historic tree, it's decaying, White House tree to be removed.

00:14:54.300 Newsweek had Melania Trump orders removal of near 200-year-old tree from White House.

00:14:59.800 The Huffington Post shockingly gave it its best due and still wasn't awesome.

00:15:08.400 Melania Trump orders large portion of historic White House tree removed due to decay.

00:15:14.920 They at least offered that up.

00:15:17.740 Thank you, Huffington Post.

00:15:19.700 There was an article on, I think it was in New York, yeah, the New York Times.

00:15:24.800 They were talking about all of Donald Trump's failures.

00:15:28.000 It's the year end, we're coming up on his one-year anniversary, his first year in office.

00:15:33.080 How did he do?

00:15:33.800 Let's reevaluate that type of thing.

00:15:36.460 And they just went down a list and just bashed, bashed, bashed the president.

00:15:42.280 It's a long article.

00:15:44.120 But in the first couple of paragraphs, they recount some stories, things that they heard him say about immigrants.

00:15:52.360 Things that were derogatory.

00:15:55.040 It's second-hand information.

00:15:56.160 It's not a quote, it's not a tweet, and there are plenty of those things that they could, you know, utilize.

00:16:01.180 It's not like he's shy on social media, right?

00:16:04.880 But while they're recounting these stories, while they're telling the stories, here's the quote.

00:16:12.580 After they share one, it says, according to one person who attended the meeting, and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there.

00:16:22.680 So this other guy told Ferris at 31 Flavors that Ferris is sick.

00:16:31.240 Yeah, I heard from this girl who heard from somebody else, whoever heard somebody talking that Ferris passed out at 31 Flavors last night.

00:16:37.740 I guess it's pretty serious.

00:16:40.160 This is the New York Times.

00:16:43.340 This is the, you know, the gold standard of reporting.

00:16:48.760 Journalism, they tell you.

00:16:51.800 Who shared a story and said it was from a person who was briefed about it from a different person who was there.

00:17:00.540 Well, New York Times, hell, that's accurate, sure.

00:17:05.860 That's perfectly understandable.

00:17:08.040 Who wouldn't believe that then?

00:17:10.440 Could it be accurate?

00:17:11.680 That's high-brow journalism.

00:17:13.960 But isn't that suspect?

00:17:15.960 If that's your, we heard it from somebody who somebody told that, and they were there.

00:17:23.160 Somebody told somebody about it.

00:17:26.000 Don't you remember the telephone game?

00:17:28.300 Remember in school the telephone?

00:17:29.260 That's what it is.

00:17:30.540 The New York Times' reporting style is television.

00:17:33.760 Or, excuse me, telephone game.

00:17:35.280 Telephone game.

00:17:37.120 You know, well, we write in this style, we write in that style.

00:17:41.480 New York Times writes in telephone game style.

00:17:44.380 Well, that's what we heard.

00:17:47.180 We heard that's how it was.

00:17:52.760 President Obama was interviewed over the weekend by Prince Harry.

00:17:57.680 Yeah, I don't know why.

00:17:59.320 I don't get that either.

00:18:01.040 Here's a little clip, though.

00:18:02.580 Listen to this.

00:18:03.240 The question, I think, really has to do with how do we harness this technology?

00:18:10.220 Social media.

00:18:10.880 In a way that allows a multiplicity of voices, allows a diversity of views, but doesn't lead to a balkanization.

00:18:19.080 Hold on a second, hold on a second, hold on a second.

00:18:21.420 How do we harness social media?

00:18:23.900 We have already harnessed social media that leads to a bunch of different voices.

00:18:29.060 Yes, that's my whole point here.

00:18:30.980 How do we harness it now?

00:18:32.160 Get the hell out of the way.

00:18:33.100 That's how you harness it.

00:18:34.040 Of our society.

00:18:34.660 But rather continues to promote ways of finding common ground.

00:18:39.880 And I'm not sure government can legislate that, but what I do believe is that all of us in leadership have to find ways in which we can recreate a common space on the Internet.

00:18:54.600 One of the dangers of the Internet is that people can have entirely different realities.

00:19:00.600 They can be just cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases.

00:19:05.780 Hold on.

00:19:06.160 He's challenging that people can have different realities, and that's wrong?

00:19:10.520 Aren't the progressives the one who tell us that you can identify as anybody else?

00:19:16.160 You can identify as a man if you're a woman.

00:19:18.560 You can identify as a fiddler crab.

00:19:20.240 You can identify as anything.

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00:20:01.940 Kara tweeting, if it were a tree planted by a Confederate soldier, how would the media and left react?

00:20:09.860 All right, Kara, you're on to something there.

00:20:13.940 Andrew Jackson is being removed from the $20 bill.

00:20:17.460 Do you know why he's being removed from the $20 bill?

00:20:21.240 Yes, because of a progressive agenda.

00:20:22.960 More specifically, their claims, though.

00:20:26.100 Racism!

00:20:28.140 You know he was the Indian killer.

00:20:30.820 You know what a racist he was.

00:20:32.880 Indian Removal Act.

00:20:35.060 You know, killed all the Indians.

00:20:38.060 Clearly a racist.

00:20:39.180 Gotta go.

00:20:39.800 Let's put somebody else that's not a racist on the $20 bill.

00:20:44.120 That's the big push.

00:20:45.360 We gotta put a woman.

00:20:46.260 It's gotta be a minority.

00:20:48.280 But specifically the $20, because Andrew Jackson was such a bad racist dude.

00:20:53.580 The tree that he planted was, for years, represented on the $20 bill.

00:21:03.100 If you look at a picture of the White House that was on the back of it, there's the tree.

00:21:07.180 So he and his racist tree on the back, yet they want to attack Melania Trump.

00:21:12.740 Shouldn't they have written,

00:21:13.760 Hero, Melania Trump, cuts down that racist tree.

00:21:19.880 You're right.

00:21:21.580 Seriously.

00:21:22.800 They want him removed from the $20 bill, but a tree that most people don't know the history of.

00:21:28.860 Melania Trump taking down this historic tree planted by the beloved Andrew Jackson.

00:21:35.960 Defiling the White House lawn.

00:21:37.780 Right, exactly.

00:21:38.460 When it's the $20, he's that racist Andrew Jackson.

00:21:40.920 When it comes to a tree because of Melania Trump, he's the beloved Andrew Jackson, who did it.

00:21:46.380 Who planted it because...

00:21:47.980 You know, if it was Michelle who would have removed the tree, it would have been,

00:21:51.380 Michelle saves dying tree out of agony.

00:21:54.780 Futs it out of its misery.

00:21:56.120 Futs it out of its misery.

00:21:58.540 The tree had tree cancer and it gave it to the last wish.

00:22:03.020 They have taken saplings from that tree and given them to other world leaders.

00:22:09.780 And people have planted them, whatever.

00:22:11.580 So, just an interesting little thing about it.

00:22:12.900 But yeah, it's all the spin.

00:22:15.160 By the way, NBC tweeted the number of days in office for Trump, days Trump properties, days at golf properties.

00:22:23.040 They're keeping track.

00:22:24.720 A little meme, a little meme they tweeted out where they're keeping track of his days.

00:22:28.860 And I was like, wow, that's great.

00:22:30.340 I don't recall you tracking President Obama's days golfing or vacationing in 2009.

00:22:35.160 Can you please repost that story?

00:22:38.520 I don't recall.

00:22:39.860 So, I don't want to say you didn't.

00:22:43.440 I'll assume you did, unbiased NBC News.

00:22:46.440 Wink, wink, wink.

00:22:47.420 Can you repost the story?

00:22:49.240 I just want to be able to compare the two.

00:22:53.660 Where's the consistency?

00:22:54.920 How do you do it?

00:22:55.640 I just can't do it.

00:22:57.600 Even though we talk about values and ideas and we share our opinions, I just cannot leave out something and not be consistent and call out people that are not doing the same thing.

00:23:11.760 It just drives me up the wall.

00:23:12.920 I don't know how they do it.

00:23:13.820 How do you live in that little bubble where you drive down the road pretending that your dude or your side or your party or somebody you know didn't do the same crap?

00:23:23.620 I don't understand it.

00:23:25.620 So, that was some of the bias from the media over the last couple of weeks about President Trump.

00:23:31.880 Let's talk about the truth now.

00:23:34.340 As I mentioned, yes, Glenn Beck did not vote for or support President Trump.

00:23:38.500 I did not as well.

00:23:39.500 But we've been pretty honest since he's been president.

00:23:44.420 Calling him, calling the balls and strikes as we see him.

00:23:47.500 Is that good or is that bad?

00:23:49.640 And early on, the first big thing President Trump did was appoint Neil Gorsuch.

00:23:58.140 And by some people's desire or reason they voted for him, that was enough.

00:24:05.460 Fill that seat that was vacated by Antonin Scalia with a true conservative.

00:24:12.320 Maybe that was enough.

00:24:13.820 And I gave him high marks for that.

00:24:16.140 Then the following couple months, not a lot got done.

00:24:18.840 There were some things I didn't like.

00:24:20.020 A little bombastic.

00:24:20.920 I still gave him high marks.

00:24:22.320 Okay.

00:24:23.480 And that's kind of been the malaise, I think, through most of the summer.

00:24:27.640 Little stories here and there.

00:24:29.360 And the media just obsesses about his tweets and fake news claims and all this stuff.

00:24:34.980 That I really had not done the math.

00:24:36.960 I didn't add up what the president has accomplished.

00:24:40.980 Because, by the way, did they repeal Obamacare?

00:24:43.880 No.

00:24:44.280 Didn't get it done.

00:24:45.880 A lot of stuff that we were hoping to get done, they didn't get done.

00:24:49.660 But that's they, the party, including the Republicans in Congress.

00:24:53.760 If you look at President Trump's track record, it was a pretty good year.

00:25:02.340 Shockingly good year.

00:25:04.140 When I went down the list to prepare for today, I got to give the guy credit.

00:25:10.560 So, Neil Gorsuch, he did sign the tax reform bill.

00:25:15.000 Now, Congress did a lot of that work.

00:25:17.240 So, give them their due.

00:25:19.400 President did use the bully pulpit and suggest, you know, dropping the corporate tax rate down to 20%.

00:25:25.160 It ended up being 21.

00:25:26.360 Still good.

00:25:27.220 But he did sign it and support it and got behind it.

00:25:30.160 He recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

00:25:33.080 Said they're going to move the embassy.

00:25:35.660 Okay.

00:25:36.000 That's pretty big for people who supported him, who support Israel.

00:25:39.540 Don't say that's what should happen there.

00:25:41.120 That is a huge step that everybody else has kicked the can down the road.

00:25:46.780 Right?

00:25:47.300 I mean, Clinton did it.

00:25:48.620 Bush did it.

00:25:49.300 Obama did it.

00:25:50.100 All when they're campaigning.

00:25:51.920 Absolutely.

00:25:52.780 Got to be in Jerusalem.

00:25:53.960 That's American policy since the 90s or whatever.

00:25:57.600 Are you going to do it?

00:25:59.720 So, you support it.

00:26:01.220 Oh, absolutely.

00:26:01.980 But you're going to move it then.

00:26:05.840 That's what they do, right?

00:26:07.760 Because they're playing both sides.

00:26:09.220 They're playing politics.

00:26:10.400 He said, no, we're going to do it.

00:26:11.980 So, okay.

00:26:14.240 He signed an executive order that demanded that two regulations be killed for every new one that it creates.

00:26:19.220 And when that happened, I said, fantastic.

00:26:21.020 If they do it.

00:26:22.180 So far, he has.

00:26:25.300 He's eliminated more than he's created.

00:26:28.560 It's by a huge margin.

00:26:30.340 I can't remember what percentage.

00:26:31.080 It's like eight to one or something.

00:26:32.240 They've actually done it.

00:26:33.340 He cut 16 rules and regulations for every one, but that's an old statistic from months ago.

00:26:41.060 So, I don't know what the actual updated number is, but it's at least that.

00:26:44.340 And according to, and this is a little loose.

00:26:48.320 It saves 8.1 billion.

00:26:50.020 That metric is a little off.

00:26:53.720 I hate to show them, but the number of rules and regulations cut versus created is true.

00:26:58.480 He signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts by themselves.

00:27:03.120 He withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement.

00:27:07.680 Okay.

00:27:08.220 That's pretty significant.

00:27:09.660 People flipped out over that one.

00:27:11.440 They did.

00:27:12.040 And when it was out, I even talked about it.

00:27:14.000 But looking back now, even more significant than I realized the time, because there's a lot going on.

00:27:20.200 You know what I mean?

00:27:23.280 Signed an executive order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.

00:27:28.300 Okay.

00:27:28.780 That's a little less, but still solid.

00:27:30.400 He withdrew from the TPP.

00:27:33.120 Huge.

00:27:34.740 And I remember why I didn't give him enough credit for that one.

00:27:39.280 Because it was not, we're pulling out of the TPP.

00:27:43.520 It was a, well, we're going to do this.

00:27:46.420 We think we're going to do that.

00:27:47.580 Yeah, we pulled out.

00:27:48.660 It was, he's almost not doing himself a service as people.

00:27:52.720 Because when he, you know, some of the stuff he campaigns on, then when it comes down to it, there's a moment of hesitation.

00:27:59.040 Maybe they're just playing the media, whatever it is.

00:28:02.180 And then they do it.

00:28:02.860 But during that hesitation, I'm like, God, he's not doing it or whatever.

00:28:05.660 And then, oh, okay, great.

00:28:06.620 He did it.

00:28:07.300 So it doesn't get, it's not like he wrote into town and said, here's all the stuff I'm going to do.

00:28:12.380 We're pulling out of this stuff.

00:28:13.300 Boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:28:14.000 And you go, hooray.

00:28:15.060 But that's the reason I want to bring up the facts and go down the list.

00:28:19.660 He started renegotiating NAFTA.

00:28:22.280 Now, that was not as big an issue for some people, but it's worth looking at.

00:28:27.560 He ended Obama's deal with Cuba.

00:28:31.320 Awesome.

00:28:32.720 Why, all of a sudden, did we suddenly say, yeah, Cuba's not a problem.

00:28:38.000 He opened up 77 million acres of the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.

00:28:43.760 Solid thing.

00:28:45.160 Expanded some of the different infrastructure projects when it comes to energy like the Keystone Pipeline.

00:28:50.080 Awesome.

00:28:50.440 He ordered the EPA to kill Obama's clean power plan.

00:28:56.780 Awesome.

00:28:57.960 And as part of that, he rolled back Obama's attempt to regulate all U.S. waterways.

00:29:03.100 Remember, he was using the Clean Water Act that even literally the mud puddle behind your house could have been covered.

00:29:10.520 The federal government would have jurisdiction over, which is ridiculous.

00:29:14.800 It was never designed for that.

00:29:16.160 He rolled that back.

00:29:17.300 Now, laid out and challenged now new plans to challenge and stop chain migration.

00:29:23.000 Ended Obama's catch and release program of illegals.

00:29:27.400 Has arrested more illegals inside the U.S. now.

00:29:32.860 Started the end of DACA.

00:29:36.080 That's another one that he kind of waffled on when it came down to it, or it seemed like he was going to waffle, but ended up doing the right thing.

00:29:42.880 Attempted to, and in some ways have, cracked down on sanctuary cities.

00:29:49.460 Of course, that was challenged to the Supreme Court, and they said that he can't do it, but he did the right thing.

00:29:57.300 Did everything within his power as far as that goes.

00:30:00.340 Has added 100 additional immigration judges to start processing those cases.

00:30:05.500 Awesome.

00:30:05.900 Reinstated and expanded the Mexico City policy, which is misleading.

00:30:10.580 It has nothing to really do with Mexico City or immigration or anything like that.

00:30:14.120 That's the money, the foreign aid that is used for abortions, where people get money in foreign aid form, and they can use it for abortion.

00:30:23.740 And he rolled that back.

00:30:24.780 He withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which is wonderful.

00:30:32.840 They have just said that they are going to, this is the last couple days, Nikki Haley announced that they are cutting U.N. funding.

00:30:40.440 He signed the VA Whistleblower Act, cracked down, and as part of that, the Veterans Appeal Improvement and Modernization Act,

00:30:48.100 and signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act.

00:30:50.960 Now, those are all good steps.

00:30:52.540 More has to be done.

00:30:53.360 Much, much more with the VA.

00:30:54.780 But that's far more than Obama did with that.

00:30:57.740 Just the Whistle Protection Act and their ability to now hold people accountable, where they can be fired.

00:31:05.880 Now, as soon as he took office, he fired a bunch of people in the VA at the top.

00:31:10.280 Some of them got their jobs back.

00:31:12.680 That's no fault of his.

00:31:14.500 That ended up being unions and courts and everything else.

00:31:17.720 But the president did what was right.

00:31:20.980 Net neutrality wasn't him directly.

00:31:23.780 But on his watch, with his support, one of his guys.

00:31:32.740 Didn't he appoint?

00:31:34.880 One of them.

00:31:35.300 That guy?

00:31:35.700 Yeah.

00:31:36.560 Yeah.

00:31:36.940 He doesn't get to appoint all of them.

00:31:38.100 Because you still got Ming-Nong Clyburn.

00:31:41.860 Filet Ming-Nong Clyburn.

00:31:43.780 Do you know that's Jim Clyburn's daughter?

00:31:45.440 James Clyburn.

00:31:46.160 No, I didn't know.

00:31:46.840 The forever congressman from South Carolina.

00:31:49.980 She has no history of telecommunications, anything like that.

00:31:54.020 But she works for the FCC.

00:31:55.760 Hmm.

00:31:56.440 Hmm.

00:31:56.700 Yeah, she got her job fair and square, I'm sure.

00:31:59.460 So these are just some of the things that President Trump has done from a conservative libertarian standpoint.

00:32:08.500 That's pretty solid.

00:32:11.140 Any of the other failures of things like Obamacare.

00:32:16.040 Could he have led more on it?

00:32:17.660 Could he have said, we specifically need just a repeal?

00:32:20.460 Use the bully pulpit more?

00:32:22.020 Maybe.

00:32:22.340 But if you had asked me a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, my opinion on all of these, how do you want a president to rule on this, this, this, this, and vote and rescind and executive order, whatever, I would have supported these.

00:32:37.760 At least with the Obamacare, didn't he get the fine removed?

00:32:41.780 Like you don't get fined anymore.

00:32:43.800 Right, exactly.

00:32:44.520 The teeth are out of it.

00:32:45.740 You still have to have it by law, but you're not going to be fined anymore.

00:32:49.240 So that's, yeah, so little bits, I mean, I'm wanting a grander statement of change, but as far as President Trump has gone, when I look back at all of the stuff over the last year, he has used his office with most of these actions the right way.

00:33:08.040 And this is, in many cases, rolling back many of the problems, many of the things that Obama did, some of it unconstitutionally, during his eight years.

00:33:17.340 It's going to take a while.

00:33:19.240 That's the truth.

00:33:22.940 Glenn Beck.

00:33:32.040 Glenn Beck.

00:33:33.780 Doc Thompson in for Glenn today, going down some tweets at Doc Thompson show.

00:33:38.860 I'm a Doc Thompson fan for life after hearing a perfect Ferris Bueller day off quote.

00:33:45.160 I know it was perfect, but it's pretty close.

00:33:47.860 Ed, with your bad knee, you shouldn't be throwing anybody.

00:33:52.660 Let's see.

00:33:53.280 Dynamite did 1122.

00:33:55.160 Doc Thompson, or excuse me, if Donald Trump had stuck to his campaign promise of a 15% corporate tax rate and ended up at 16 or 18, that would have been respectable.

00:34:04.560 To have an opening bid of 20% of the tax bill, nah, that's a fail.

00:34:10.260 You know what?

00:34:10.780 I'm going to give you that.

00:34:12.800 My telling you Donald Trump's success, the successes I just went down, is not a complete endorsement.

00:34:20.380 There are still some things that I want done better and more.

00:34:24.140 I just want to give the guy credit where it's due.

00:34:26.960 There's been a lot of good.

00:34:29.400 Yes, there were things he promised that should have happened differently.

00:34:32.940 Some that you knew he's going to build a wall.

00:34:34.880 It's not going to happen whether you like it or not.

00:34:37.160 But I would have preferred a 0% corporate tax rate.

00:34:42.240 None.

00:34:42.820 Eliminate it.

00:34:43.420 That's what we really need.

00:34:44.640 He did come out of the gate kind of soft with the tax bill.

00:34:46.980 Absolutely, he did.

00:34:48.700 Yes, he should have started at 15.

00:34:50.880 Should have started at abolish the IRS.

00:34:52.820 Right.

00:34:53.320 I want complete tax reform.

00:34:55.480 I don't want them to end here.

00:34:57.020 As long as they don't stop here, you know, next we need spending reform and then revisit tax reform.

00:35:02.540 And go full fair tax or flat tax or something.

00:35:06.880 But the tax bill is better.

00:35:09.400 To go from 34 to 21, much better.

00:35:13.160 As long as they don't stop.

00:35:15.120 Some of this is done incrementally.

00:35:17.300 Yeah, I'll give you, he should have gone bigger with it.

00:35:20.900 But it is better.

00:35:22.760 We'll get some of your calls coming up.

00:35:23.900 Keep tweeting at Doc Thompson Show.

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00:39:37.920 Let's go to line 44.

00:39:39.780 Jerry in Wisconsin, you are on the Glenn Beck program.

00:39:43.020 How are you?

00:39:44.460 Hey, Doc.

00:39:45.900 You're probably right.

00:39:46.860 There's probably sometimes where the media has been unfair to Donald Trump.

00:39:49.720 I'm not going to completely deny that.

00:39:51.520 But considering what Donald Trump has said about the media, he has called the media the man of American people.

00:39:57.840 He has stated it's disgusting that the American press, that the media has the right to report what they want.

00:40:04.300 He has, he's literally a fascist.

00:40:07.040 You're a libertarian.

00:40:08.140 He's a fascist.

00:40:09.040 He's an authoritarian.

00:40:10.400 He has contempt of disdain for the First Amendment.

00:40:12.940 His quotes are nothing different than what Mussolini might say.

00:40:16.180 He has disdain for our idea for the press to report.

00:40:21.540 The only media he likes is media that parrots what he says and that praises him, like Fox News.

00:40:27.840 This is a man who just shouldn't be president.

00:40:30.380 He has contempt for the First Amendment and what our founding fathers gave us.

00:40:34.660 Wait a minute.

00:40:34.900 Wait a minute.

00:40:35.540 Shouldn't be president.

00:40:36.920 What do you mean by that?

00:40:38.300 Because he has contempt for the Constitution.

00:40:41.080 He has contempt for the right of a free press.

00:40:44.480 As I stated, he said it was disgusting that the media has the right to report what they do.

00:40:49.140 Let me ask you something.

00:40:50.360 Hang on one second.

00:40:51.240 Hang on one second, Jerry.

00:40:51.920 Hang on one second.

00:40:52.240 We'll let you talk some more.

00:40:53.300 I just want to explore one thing here.

00:40:54.620 Is Donald Trump over the age of 35?

00:40:58.680 Yeah.

00:40:59.260 Is he a natural-born citizen?

00:41:01.440 I didn't say that he was eligible.

00:41:03.180 I said he shouldn't be.

00:41:04.740 Okay.

00:41:05.100 Well, he became president based on the Constitution.

00:41:10.780 Yes.

00:41:11.700 Mussolini became the leader of Italy.

00:41:13.300 Should Mussolini come?

00:41:14.480 Should Mussolini became the leader of Italy?

00:41:16.640 Do you think it was a great thing that Mussolini became the leader of Italy?

00:41:19.780 Because I don't.

00:41:20.600 No, no, you're conflating it.

00:41:22.680 People supported him, and people have a difference of opinion.

00:41:25.560 Now, you can say you don't support his ideas, but I hate this idea of shouldn't be and not

00:41:31.120 my president and all of that nonsense.

00:41:33.360 I'm saying not my president.

00:41:34.140 Okay.

00:41:34.460 I'm just, I just.

00:41:35.280 He shouldn't be.

00:41:35.820 Okay.

00:41:36.200 He should not be.

00:41:36.880 Like Republicans said the same thing about Obama.

00:41:39.580 When Obama was president for eight years, they said the exact same thing.

00:41:43.500 I'm saying the same thing about Trump.

00:41:45.340 He shouldn't be.

00:41:46.600 Meaning you don't want him to be president.

00:41:48.280 You wish he was not president.

00:41:49.780 No, and mentally, he's deranged.

00:41:52.100 Okay.

00:41:52.360 He's a narcissist.

00:41:53.720 He's emotionally immature.

00:41:55.600 He's completely unqualified.

00:41:57.080 He's president, but he's a horrible president.

00:41:59.280 That's the point.

00:42:00.140 Okay.

00:42:00.500 Now, you're basing that on you having different values than him.

00:42:05.220 Is that why you're saying he's a horrible president?

00:42:06.920 I've been listening to him for the last 20 years.

00:42:08.700 Okay.

00:42:09.100 Give me a couple of specifics of him when you say he's a horrible president.

00:42:14.760 Well, okay.

00:42:15.480 Again, the war on the media.

00:42:17.660 The war on freedom of the press.

00:42:19.100 Hold on one second.

00:42:19.960 Hold on one second.

00:42:20.900 Hold on.

00:42:21.160 Hold on.

00:42:21.420 Hold on.

00:42:21.700 Hold on.

00:42:21.900 Hold on.

00:42:21.940 Hold on.

00:42:22.200 We're taking these one at a time here, Jerry.

00:42:24.700 It's a conversation here.

00:42:25.420 One at a time.

00:42:25.960 Okay.

00:42:26.240 So, the war on the press.

00:42:28.060 Do you mean the war on the press where he has challenged people like Jim Acosta and

00:42:31.840 said that's fake news?

00:42:32.840 Is that what you mean by it?

00:42:34.000 Well, what one?

00:42:35.120 That's wrong.

00:42:35.960 But anyway, again.

00:42:37.480 No, hold on.

00:42:37.800 Hold on, Jerry.

00:42:38.320 I want to explore these.

00:42:39.180 Hold on.

00:42:39.520 It's a conversation.

00:42:40.520 You're annoying what I said.

00:42:41.420 You're annoying the quote.

00:42:42.920 Hang on.

00:42:43.300 Jerry, hang on.

00:42:45.400 Hang on.

00:42:46.020 We're going to get to this stuff.

00:42:47.420 It's a conversation, Jerry.

00:42:48.840 Hold on.

00:42:49.300 Hold on.

00:42:50.060 So, are you talking about stuff like Jim Acosta where he has challenged them and said,

00:42:53.520 sit down, you're fake news and stuff?

00:42:54.920 Is that what you're talking about?

00:42:56.120 Well, anything they report he calls fake news, even if the reporting is exactly right

00:43:00.480 because to Donald Trump, anything that's not in his reality is fake news.

00:43:04.940 He praises news that praises him like Fox News, which is the propaganda arm of Donald

00:43:10.600 Trump and the Republican Party.

00:43:12.140 And Jerry, you really, you really are going to say those things without calling out President

00:43:18.140 Obama for his closed door special meetings with certain members of the media?

00:43:22.960 You're not going to call out MSNBC for being his talking surrogate during his platform during

00:43:31.540 his presidency?

00:43:33.100 You're not going to be consistent?

00:43:35.620 Okay.

00:43:36.280 So, they did favor President Obama.

00:43:39.740 That's true.

00:43:40.580 Yes.

00:43:40.820 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Jerry.

00:43:44.080 Hold on.

00:43:44.640 Hold on.

00:43:45.480 Wait a minute.

00:43:46.280 Hold on a second.

00:43:47.340 Hold it.

00:43:48.420 No, no.

00:43:48.940 They did not favor him.

00:43:50.940 They promoted him.

00:43:52.860 They, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC.

00:43:57.020 Liberal media.

00:43:58.020 Jerry, no, don't give me that.

00:43:59.360 Liberal media.

00:44:00.020 See, this is the reason people can't have discussions, Jerry.

00:44:02.820 This is the reason.

00:44:03.540 I'm admitting Donald Trump, of course, likes media that is going to favor him.

00:44:07.480 And yes, Fox News praises him because they are a right-wing media outlet, of course.

00:44:12.720 But you're not willing to give that due?

00:44:14.920 You're not willing to be consistent?

00:44:17.720 You've lost credibility if you're not willing to point out that the other media outlets

00:44:22.300 rabidly, blindly supported President Obama because they are progressives.

00:44:27.040 Okay.

00:44:27.700 The rabidly, blindly, no.

00:44:29.140 But...

00:44:29.500 Hold on.

00:44:29.740 Hold on.

00:44:29.920 Do you work...

00:44:30.560 Hold on.

00:44:30.780 Hold on a second.

00:44:31.400 Hold on.

00:44:31.820 Hold on.

00:44:32.480 Do you work...

00:44:33.300 Do you work in the media?

00:44:34.760 Do you work in the media?

00:44:36.180 No.

00:44:36.820 Okay.

00:44:37.420 I work in the media.

00:44:38.900 My wife works in the media.

00:44:40.300 She works in television media.

00:44:41.920 And I can tell you, overwhelmingly, people in the media are progressive.

00:44:46.340 It's not even close.

00:44:47.700 It's not even...

00:44:48.520 Well, it's 60-40.

00:44:50.080 It's like 80-20, 90-10, the number of progressives.

00:44:54.540 It's true.

00:44:55.520 You know what that is?

00:44:56.000 But you don't even know...

00:44:56.920 Hold on, Jerry.

00:44:57.400 You don't even need to know that, though, to look at the reporting.

00:45:00.580 I can't believe you would defend this knowing.

00:45:03.700 Just admit it.

00:45:05.040 Right?

00:45:05.380 Listen.

00:45:05.780 Is Rush Limbaugh, is Glenn Beck, are they on the right?

00:45:09.420 Yes.

00:45:09.740 I'm not disputing that.

00:45:11.320 Hey, were they critical of Obama's policies?

00:45:13.600 Yes.

00:45:13.900 I'm not disputing that.

00:45:15.680 So why wouldn't you simply hold people accountable to have the credibility so we can have honest

00:45:20.820 discussions?

00:45:22.180 Why do you make me go through this when you know the truth?

00:45:25.000 Okay.

00:45:25.460 Then know the truth.

00:45:26.380 One, even MSNBC, they're not as biased as Fox News.

00:45:30.680 And two, probably one of the reasons why so many people in the media are on the left.

00:45:34.100 Jerry, you've lost all credibility when you say they're not...

00:45:37.520 Hold it.

00:45:38.020 We can't argue here.

00:45:39.140 Hold it.

00:45:39.640 When you say they're not as biased, you've lost all credibility.

00:45:43.020 You know that's not the truth.

00:45:45.300 Well, Doc, still don't answer me.

00:45:46.920 Are you fine with Donald Trump saying the media was discussing that they have the right to

00:45:51.140 report what they did?

00:45:52.180 Because to me, that's just stating contempt for our founding fathers.

00:45:55.380 No, I have no problem with him saying the media is disgusting.

00:45:59.400 No, they're disgusting.

00:46:01.700 It's disgusting they have the right to report and publish.

00:46:04.660 He believes that the media shouldn't have the right.

00:46:07.120 He believes the media shouldn't have the right.

00:46:09.300 In the First Amendment, that James Madison...

00:46:11.560 Jerry, hold it.

00:46:12.680 Hold it.

00:46:13.140 Hold it.

00:46:13.640 Stop, Jerry.

00:46:14.420 Jerry.

00:46:14.860 Stop.

00:46:15.280 Stop with the historical lesson.

00:46:17.120 Trust me.

00:46:17.480 I understand the First Amendment.

00:46:19.560 I understand that.

00:46:20.880 No, of course the freedom of the press is solid.

00:46:24.060 It's absolute.

00:46:24.840 Of course it is.

00:46:25.580 And anybody who says, whether it's Donald Trump or President Obama, is wrong.

00:46:30.440 Do you remember President Obama calling out Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh?

00:46:35.040 I don't remember him saying it's disgusting.

00:46:36.640 Do you remember him calling out Fox News?

00:46:39.880 Do you remember those things?

00:46:41.020 That thing is disgusting.

00:46:41.920 I don't remember him saying it's disgusting that Sean Hannity can report what he wants.

00:46:46.040 You tell me when President Obama said that, and I will apologize and take back any position.

00:46:52.400 You tell me when President Obama said it was disgusting for the media to do that.

00:46:56.020 When he called them out for their biases and not admitting the other, so you're hung up

00:47:01.320 on the word disgusting?

00:47:02.940 Jerry, you know the truth here.

00:47:04.820 I'm not arguing that Fox News is biased, and I'm not arguing that President Trump shouldn't

00:47:11.280 say people don't have a right to report.

00:47:13.160 Of course they do.

00:47:14.020 They can report opinion for that matter.

00:47:16.040 I just prefer them to be transparent up front.

00:47:18.640 But the fact that you and others are not being consistent now because you simply do not

00:47:24.080 like policies of his, and you may not like the way he presents himself, you've lost all

00:47:30.180 credibility.

00:47:31.860 You are actually, Jerry, you are actually the problem.

00:47:35.380 If you want, stop, stop.

00:47:37.380 We're not going down that road.

00:47:38.460 I'm talking about your lack of credibility right now.

00:47:42.560 How are we supposed to find common ground and have discussions when you know the truth

00:47:46.940 and you can't just simply admit that?

00:47:49.500 You know the truth as you stating what I should know the truth.

00:47:52.780 Again, I said...

00:47:53.800 Jerry, you've exposed yourself.

00:47:55.020 And then I'm probably somewhat on the left.

00:47:56.840 No, no, you know, no, no, no, no, probably.

00:47:58.840 No, Jerry, no.

00:48:00.060 Hold it, hold it, hold it a second.

00:48:01.800 There's no probably with this, Jerry.

00:48:03.840 There's no probably with...

00:48:05.160 Well, yeah, they are.

00:48:06.240 Just admit it.

00:48:08.020 MSNBC is every bit as progressive as Fox News is conservative.

00:48:14.500 I'm willing to concede.

00:48:16.280 Fox News, absolutely the same.

00:48:18.460 But on the other side, CNN, absolutely.

00:48:22.320 I'm not trying to say, oh, Fox News isn't and Fox News is right.

00:48:26.020 Of course, I work for the Blaze.

00:48:28.360 We are from a right-leaning perspective.

00:48:30.500 Of course, we're admitting it.

00:48:32.260 We will never get beyond this stuff.

00:48:34.580 We will never find solutions.

00:48:36.240 We will never find common grounds that you supposedly want.

00:48:39.620 You want to have discussions?

00:48:41.140 We got to have a conversation on race in America.

00:48:44.500 We can never have any conversations on this stuff.

00:48:47.540 Because you will not be consistent.

00:48:51.540 Because that is not what a progressive is.

00:48:54.820 It is a cornerstone of progressivism, which you are, to not be consistent.

00:49:01.460 Doc on that, because that's what I want to know.

00:49:04.220 Thanks.

00:49:05.040 And there you go.

00:49:07.180 There it is.

00:49:08.380 Willing to have a conversation.

00:49:10.360 But he's a fascist or whatever, whatever.

00:49:12.120 I'm willing to discuss with you.

00:49:15.160 We find common ground.

00:49:16.620 But if you're going to start with those people are worse and it didn't happen here,

00:49:20.600 President Trump should not say people do not have a right to report.

00:49:24.620 Of course they do.

00:49:25.560 And the things where he has tweeted, suggested, said, things like that, absolutely wrong.

00:49:33.780 The First Amendment is absolute.

00:49:36.460 Period.

00:49:37.720 He was wrong.

00:49:39.140 Calling the media out, I have no problem with.

00:49:41.880 I have no problem challenge the media in reporting.

00:49:45.760 Why can't you?

00:49:46.800 Why can't you as president or a senator or a governor?

00:49:48.900 Of course you can call people out.

00:49:51.360 I had no problem with President Obama calling media sources out.

00:49:55.660 As long as he was being consistent and willing to admit that he has these little backdoor meetings.

00:50:01.180 Special, private, little, hey, can you guys report on this and not that meetings with people at the White House.

00:50:07.340 You're not being honest.

00:50:08.520 You're not being transparent.

00:50:09.640 As long as you do that and you're consistent, we can move forward.

00:50:13.600 We can find solutions.

00:50:15.300 But until you do, yeah, it actually gives me a little bit of pleasure when President Trump beats up on the media.

00:50:22.340 Because finally, somebody calls them out.

00:50:26.520 Unlike you.

00:50:29.500 This is Doc Thompson in for Glenn Beck.

00:50:33.000 Glenn Beck.

00:50:34.160 Glenn Beck.

00:50:39.640 Hi, it's Doc Thompson in for Glenn today.

00:50:46.200 I hope you had a good Christmas.

00:50:48.400 Hope you had some good time off.

00:50:49.700 Maybe you're still off and I hope you're enjoying yourself.

00:50:53.180 And I hope 2018 brings you and your family many, many blessings.

00:50:56.720 2017 brought me a lot of blessings.

00:50:59.800 And Cal, who's with me in the morning blaze, brought him quite a few blessings as well.

00:51:04.960 Including both of us additional children.

00:51:06.980 And Cal, a little baby girl, and me a baby boy recently.

00:51:10.040 Yeah, baby's in the house.

00:51:12.220 How old is your daughter, your second daughter now?

00:51:14.160 She is about five months.

00:51:16.620 So my son was born just a few weeks ago.

00:51:19.440 And it's been a great time.

00:51:22.880 Just, you know, first Christmas and that.

00:51:24.800 Then I got the bill from the hospital.

00:51:27.380 Which I wasn't expecting.

00:51:29.620 It was $3,000 more than I expected.

00:51:32.240 And that was kind of a sucker punch.

00:51:33.880 And I was really, I was really ticked.

00:51:36.940 Because I was led to believe it would be less than that and whatever.

00:51:41.040 And then I go, well, you know, the bigger issue is he's healthy and happy.

00:51:45.480 And I was happy about that.

00:51:46.740 But still, just, you know, annoys you.

00:51:48.600 We don't have unlimited funds.

00:51:50.200 You know, stuff like that.

00:51:50.880 No, by no means.

00:51:51.540 $3,000, you know.

00:51:53.560 What bugs me is that it, like, you get, I got literally maybe six different bills that

00:52:00.920 all accumulated up to a total.

00:52:02.400 I didn't get one bill saying, okay, here's what it costs you.

00:52:05.400 I got different bills from different, I guess, departments who did different things.

00:52:10.980 Oh, they just roll in.

00:52:11.140 And even after I pay, like, you know, they give you a discount if you pay it in full.

00:52:15.620 So I put it on a credit card because I don't have, you know, I was like four or five grand.

00:52:20.560 I put it on a credit card so I can bring the price down.

00:52:22.920 And I'm still getting bills.

00:52:24.540 From others, yep.

00:52:25.280 And I'm like, wait a minute.

00:52:26.360 You told me this would be the thing.

00:52:27.700 And every time we call them, they're like, oh, just ignore that.

00:52:30.320 Well, this will make you feel better because it made me feel a little bit better.

00:52:34.840 So my baby, my son, newest son, came home a couple weeks ago.

00:52:38.560 And then I read a story about a police officer from St. Peter's, Missouri, who had his second child on December 4th.

00:52:49.520 It's a little baby girl named Caitlin.

00:52:51.380 His first son was born in May of 2014.

00:52:54.480 His daughter Caitlin was born December 4th.

00:52:58.780 He hasn't been able to spend much time with her because that was the same week he found out that his cancer had returned.

00:53:04.820 This is a police officer from St. Peter's, Missouri.

00:53:08.560 Who is only 36 years of age.

00:53:11.020 He's a Marine veteran.

00:53:13.660 And in 2011, right after he met his wife, found out that he had some cancerous cells on his tongue.

00:53:20.220 Had to have part of his tongue removed and radiation therapy and was clean, clear of cancer for five years.

00:53:26.900 And right as his daughter was born, a joyous time, he finds out he has cancer again.

00:53:32.080 And just a few days before Christmas, while we were preparing for Christmas, he had a glossectomy.

00:53:36.660 Which is a partial or full removal of his tongue.

00:53:41.300 Your tongue is responsible for so much speech and tasting of food and moving food in your mouth and swallowing.

00:53:48.940 And this is what he's been suffering with, not even able to spend time with his baby girl.

00:53:54.520 So while I was upset about the bills and then I read his story and was like, well, at least I'm home and I didn't have my tongue removed.

00:54:01.400 But he's been going through reconstructed surgery to try to help him.

00:54:07.200 He's still in the hospital.

00:54:08.160 He never smoked.

00:54:09.580 He never used tobacco, never dipped.

00:54:11.640 He's a non-drinker.

00:54:13.160 And this is what he's suffering with.

00:54:14.840 So as part of Glenn's efforts on this program to help as many people as we can, if you would, please consider donating to Brian Bresnahan.

00:54:24.140 Go to GoFundMe.com slash Bresnahan-Family.

00:54:29.060 B-R-E-S-N-A-H-A-N-Family.

00:54:32.280 If you can even help him out, donate $5, $10, whatever.

00:54:35.940 This is a police officer and Marine veteran who needs your help.

00:54:39.380 I'll also tweet out a link on my Twitter account.

00:54:41.900 It's at DocThompsonShow or, again, GoFundMe.com slash Bresnahan-Family.

00:54:49.180 B-R-E-S-N-A-H-A-N-Family.

00:54:54.580 Glenn Beck.

00:55:01.860 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:55:05.100 Last November saw another record in American history.

00:55:09.160 It's not necessarily a good record.

00:55:12.240 Well, I mean, it's not a bad one.

00:55:14.460 But when you know the full story, it's not a good situation.

00:55:19.720 In November, nearly 62 million people received Social Security benefits.

00:55:26.580 That is a record high number in American history.

00:55:30.480 62 million.

00:55:32.360 There are just shy of 330 million Americans.

00:55:39.180 62 million receiving Social Security benefits.

00:55:42.340 Well, I say it's not necessarily a bad thing that people are retired and receiving money.

00:55:46.080 That's fine.

00:55:46.780 But when you know the full system and you realize how it's strained and how unsustainable it is, and still we have not addressed it.

00:55:53.840 When you realize what a Ponzi scheme Social Security is, you realize that's not a good thing.

00:56:00.720 It's not sustainable.

00:56:02.460 It is a failure.

00:56:03.980 Parts of it are absolutely evil.

00:56:06.800 Yeah.

00:56:07.200 You don't hear many people challenge that because for years, Social Security was kind of a third rail.

00:56:11.920 You just accepted that people want it and like it.

00:56:15.700 Well, yeah.

00:56:16.340 If you're retired and on Social Security and you hear people challenge the notion of Social Security, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:56:21.740 Defend what I'm getting.

00:56:22.700 I would never suggest pulling the rug out from underneath people, but over the long haul, this is a system that has to be changed.

00:56:30.340 Let me explain why.

00:56:32.480 In addition to the 62 million people receiving Social Security, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that currently there are 126 million full-time workers in the U.S.

00:56:46.820 So that is just over two full-time workers for each person receiving Social Security.

00:56:57.320 The notion of Social Security was sold as, okay, everybody makes money and you pay into this pot and it grows and it makes interest.

00:57:06.560 And then when you retire, that money will be there.

00:57:10.220 That's not really how it is.

00:57:11.880 As soon as the government saw big money, those D.C. people that just like to spend, as soon as they saw millions and then billions of dollars and hundreds of billions and into the trillions of money in Social Security, they went and robbed that lockbox.

00:57:28.940 Remember, the lockbox will put it in a lockbox.

00:57:33.160 There's no lockbox.

00:57:34.980 They took and spent that money and essentially replaced it with IOUs.

00:57:40.080 Don't worry.

00:57:41.780 We took this money for some stuff.

00:57:43.580 We'll always pay those Social Security benefits.

00:57:46.300 Don't worry.

00:57:48.140 They commingled the monies.

00:57:50.780 Instead of having an account over here that's Social Security money that everybody pays into and then we pay money out of it,

00:57:57.900 they just essentially put it in one big general fund with all the other monies.

00:58:03.360 Well, since we have deficits every year and a growing national debt that is now over $20 trillion, they have to pay those out of whatever we take in every month.

00:58:16.960 And knowing that we have all that debt on top of this sets up a pretty bleak future unless we do something.

00:58:25.880 When this was sold to people, it wasn't just you'll pay into it, but they also said how many people would be paying into it versus how many people are taking money out.

00:58:35.380 And at one point, it was five, six people paying into it versus people taking out.

00:58:40.760 That's when those baby boomers were all working.

00:58:44.780 Huge percentage of the population paying in with only a small percent taking out.

00:58:52.520 Right now, 10,000 baby boomers retire every day.

00:58:56.900 10,000 every day.

00:58:58.220 So now we're down to two people paying in for everybody that takes money out.

00:59:05.100 And it's not paying in again to that closed fund goes into the general fund.

00:59:09.480 At some point, it'll be one to one.

00:59:13.700 And then one to two.

00:59:19.100 And we'll be paying for it.

00:59:21.640 That's unsustainable.

00:59:22.720 That means money that we spend or would spend on other thing is going to have to go towards this.

00:59:27.120 Because of a bad system to begin with and then mismanagement of a bad system.

00:59:32.420 The mismanagement being not adjusting for inflation, not adjusting for life expectancy, and retirement ages, and adjusting all of these things.

00:59:42.860 But it was failed to begin with because you don't get the money.

00:59:48.180 Not in every case.

00:59:49.480 You could pay in and work hard your entire life, then die as you retire.

00:59:53.820 You could die the day after you retire and not collect one penny of all that money you paid into it.

00:59:59.960 Meanwhile, somebody who has barely worked, done the bare minimum, could retire at, what is it, 67 now?

01:00:07.400 Maybe a few years ago, retired at 65 and lived to be 130.

01:00:12.920 More years, taking more years than they ever paid into it with the bare minimum and collect and collect.

01:00:17.800 But all of these things are possible.

01:00:22.640 It's a failed system.

01:00:24.500 If you retire having some sort of retirement account you've paid into your whole life and die, that money can still go to your family.

01:00:33.320 Social Security?

01:00:34.020 No.

01:00:35.060 Not unless they're a minor and you die early and then they can collect up until they're 18.

01:00:38.700 The number of people that scam the system.

01:00:42.160 The fact that Social Security actually is not a livable wage.

01:00:48.020 Unless you've paid off your house or something like that and really made good money where you get the upper level.

01:00:53.740 It's not livable by itself.

01:00:55.240 It doesn't adjust for inflation.

01:00:57.140 Let's stop the insanity of Social Security.

01:01:01.620 No.

01:01:02.380 People that are near retirement or retired, I'm not suggesting we pull the rug out from underneath you.

01:01:07.660 Here's the solution.

01:01:08.700 We set a plan in motion to slowly wind down Social Security over the next 10, 15, whatever years.

01:01:19.640 That if you are retired and you're getting Social Security, you will get it even if you live to be 170.

01:01:27.120 If you are near retirement, you will get it.

01:01:30.400 If you're halfway to retirement in there, we're going to have to make some adjustments.

01:01:34.620 You're going to get what you paid into at least.

01:01:37.360 You're going to get some of that money.

01:01:40.020 But you have time to still make some other plans.

01:01:43.000 And we can make sure it's a smooth transition so you're not screwed.

01:01:46.440 People on the younger side, on the lower end, you're going to have to pay some monies in even though you're not going to get some of that out.

01:01:55.280 Frustrating.

01:01:56.540 Horrible.

01:01:57.060 Yeah.

01:01:57.300 But that's how it's got to be.

01:02:00.780 And we all end up paying for things that we don't want anyways.

01:02:05.580 This is part of the system.

01:02:06.920 But under the Doc Thompson plan, if we adjust the true for true tax reform, you should be able to have other tax benefits that will offset that so you're in no worse shape.

01:02:18.840 We simply set a true fair and flat tax.

01:02:21.660 And with that, spending reform, where we stop wasting money on stuff we don't need, wind down things like the Department of Education, which just takes a handling fee at the federal level to redistribute the money back to the states.

01:02:33.980 We stop growing the federal government, and we return that money to the people.

01:02:39.800 With a grand plan like this, we can finally get out from underneath this evil system of Social Security that takes and doesn't always give even though you've worked.

01:02:51.420 And a system that is unsustainable and likely to go bankrupt anyways.

01:02:56.200 And there's going to be only one way to prop it up if you want it propped up.

01:03:00.520 When it eventually fails, they're just going to say we must raise taxes on some level or raise your contributions to Social Security significantly to pay for other people that are on it right now.

01:03:17.720 It's wrong.

01:03:18.920 I will reluctantly, even though a libertarian, go along with the idea that we will force people to pay for their own retirement.

01:03:25.360 You must take 5, 10, whatever percent we decide and put it into something you can't touch until you retire.

01:03:30.520 So you'll force them to be responsible.

01:03:32.900 I hate the notion.

01:03:36.480 But versus having Social Security around, I'm fine with it.

01:03:41.800 We can at least move to that.

01:03:44.040 Because that is a system where you'll at least get what you paid into it.

01:03:49.080 You can at least give it to your children if you die.

01:03:53.900 All right, we'll get some phone calls.

01:03:55.140 888-727-BECK.

01:03:56.540 888-727-BECK.

01:03:58.080 Talk about some of the things going on.

01:03:59.740 People wanted to touch more on the tax bill.

01:04:01.880 Let's go to West Virginia, the Mountain State.

01:04:03.580 Bill, welcome to the program.

01:04:04.820 How are you?

01:04:05.980 Good.

01:04:06.400 How are you?

01:04:07.100 I'm doing well, sir.

01:04:08.360 Yeah, I'd like to address this tax bill from the standpoint of part of it is going to cause some inflation net from the people getting this money back.

01:04:17.060 Some of it should have been tied to savings, like you were saying, people with their retirement and stuff like that.

01:04:22.840 But these big states, they're going to see this money coming in.

01:04:25.720 These people getting these tax cuts.

01:04:27.400 And these taxaholics and their legislators are going to say, well, gee whiz, I can raise that income tax there now if these people got this money.

01:04:33.300 So the federal government tax is actually subsidizing increases in governments in these big states in that manner net.

01:04:40.180 But it's been a Federal Reserve economy from the standpoint of these very low interest rates.

01:04:46.360 That's what allowed Obama to take and throw all this regulation in.

01:04:50.700 He was covered with a low interest rate so people could buy houses very low, low cost in that, their vehicles, interest rate-wise in that.

01:04:59.040 But it's been a Federal Reserve economy in that, and the little saver's been getting screwed on this thing.

01:05:05.200 You know, if you've got money in a savings account, you're lucky if you get half percent.

01:05:08.880 Well, inflation is two or three percent.

01:05:11.640 So they shouldn't be paying any taxes on that at all.

01:05:14.720 The people are trying to take and stand on their own two feet, you know, like an emergency fund.

01:05:21.660 No, you're right.

01:05:22.420 You bring up a lot of good points there, so let's touch on some of them.

01:05:24.600 Yeah, one of the failures of keeping the interest rates low is that it also affects people who are getting paid because they're saving money.

01:05:33.660 It benefits the spenders but punishes, in some regard, the savers.

01:05:37.960 Now, there are other, obviously, vehicles for investment.

01:05:40.780 But you're right.

01:05:41.320 In general, that's a problem.

01:05:43.320 And it's always been frustrating to me how they manipulate this.

01:05:46.880 It's not the government's job, and it's certainly not the Federal Reserve's job.

01:05:50.960 They shouldn't even be around to manipulate interest rates, to regulate this stuff.

01:05:55.260 Bill, I don't want it regulated.

01:05:56.980 I'm willing to have it be sporadic because I'll save during the lean times for the fatty times.

01:06:04.200 Well, I agree with Harley on that.

01:06:06.520 You know, with regard to the people, these states and that, they get this, like I say, they're going to see this money coming into these people and their refunds and that.

01:06:15.900 And they're going to say, hey, the taxaholics and the legislators are going to say, hey, we can raise their taxes and that.

01:06:20.640 Now, what has to happen there, Bill, is the legislatures, we have to make sure in our individual states that they don't do that.

01:06:28.500 You know, this is up to the individuals to say, in my state, I don't want you to play this game.

01:06:33.340 We've got to be aware.

01:06:35.460 Well, yeah, I agree with that.

01:06:37.140 But you've got places like California and New York and New Jersey and that, they're totally insane with raising taxes and bloating.

01:06:44.860 What they're doing is we're helping to grow their governments with the tax cuts and that rather than getting these people to save some money so they're not beholding to the government.

01:06:54.900 They get their hand out all the time to the government if something does hit them.

01:06:58.300 Well, then I think in part of the solution, as I've said on my radio show, this is just step one to me.

01:07:04.140 I didn't love this bill.

01:07:05.500 I didn't get everything I wanted.

01:07:06.740 This is not an A+.

01:07:07.860 This was a better than average.

01:07:09.980 In my opinion, this was probably a B- bill, maybe a B.

01:07:14.240 I want true tax reform.

01:07:17.260 I either want a flat or a fair tax, no exemptions, deductions, exceptions, just pay your 10% income or pay your 10% national sales tax, whatever it is, and be done with this thing.

01:07:28.860 Until we have that, we probably need some incremental change like this.

01:07:32.880 I think this will help, but there's certainly some problems or questions, too.

01:07:37.780 Well, I'm all for the flat tax, like you say.

01:07:41.320 I think the government's the biggest purveyor of identity theft with all the information you have to put out for taxes.

01:07:47.040 That's another thing.

01:07:47.920 You're 100% right on that.

01:07:49.800 They like that control mechanism that's in place from top to bottom with it.

01:07:54.080 But, Bill, thanks so much for the call.

01:07:55.560 What part of West Virginia are you in today?

01:07:57.320 Whoops, I just missed you.

01:07:58.720 Thanks, Cal.

01:08:00.420 I wasn't done talking to you, but you hit the button.

01:08:01.840 You said thanks for the call.

01:08:03.680 Wow, man, that's such a fail.

01:08:05.900 Sorry, Bill.

01:08:06.540 I was curious there.

01:08:07.720 Let's go to Maryland and Indiana, the Hoosier State.

01:08:09.760 How are you?

01:08:10.680 I'm fine.

01:08:11.680 How are you?

01:08:12.340 Doing well.

01:08:15.200 It's probably going to boil down to a statement, but I don't understand the people that, they don't understand why the businesses get the tax cut.

01:08:24.200 That's what's keeping the businesses in our country.

01:08:26.980 And I don't know if they're not thinking, but they need to have their taxes cut.

01:08:33.480 They're the people that provide us with the jobs.

01:08:37.360 And I don't know how they're thinking, but that's the way I feel about it.

01:08:40.800 No, Maryland, you're right about that.

01:08:42.600 They missed that point and they go, ah, it's trickle down economics doesn't work.

01:08:45.620 Well, first of all, it does work.

01:08:47.420 And I hate the term trickle down.

01:08:48.880 That was a failure to begin with.

01:08:50.560 It's flood down is what it is.

01:08:52.820 It's a flood everywhere when you have prosperous businesses.

01:08:57.260 But, Maryland, there's another point.

01:08:59.600 They tell us that those businesses shouldn't get a tax break because they're evil corporations.

01:09:04.500 But aren't they the ones who also argued that corporations aren't people?

01:09:08.900 They're the ones who said that over and over.

01:09:10.540 So, why are we taxing them, Maryland?

01:09:14.620 Well, how's the country going to run if we don't pay taxes?

01:09:18.680 Well, I mean, taxing the businesses is what I mean.

01:09:20.880 Why are they taxing them, right?

01:09:22.780 They're not people.

01:09:24.400 I think they should be taxed, but they don't need to be taxed so bad that they have to leave the country where they get a better deal.

01:09:32.700 Maryland, thanks so much for the call.

01:09:34.020 I appreciate it.

01:09:34.480 Back with more on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:09:39.040 Glenn Beck.

01:09:40.540 Glenn Beck.

01:09:48.080 Doc Thompson in for Glenn Beck and one of my partners in the morning on the Blaze Radio Network, theblazeradio.com.

01:09:54.220 Cal, this is his favorite time of the year.

01:09:56.500 Loves this time of the year because the Golden Globes are coming up in early January.

01:10:00.340 Coming up by January.

01:10:01.240 So, I know you love the Golden.

01:10:03.300 You're such a huge fan.

01:10:04.980 I didn't even know the...

01:10:05.720 You wait every year.

01:10:07.000 You're like, Doc, the Golden Globes are coming there.

01:10:09.300 Not really.

01:10:09.800 You don't really?

01:10:10.600 I thought that's what you were...

01:10:11.740 Oh, interesting.

01:10:12.360 Okay.

01:10:12.640 Sure.

01:10:13.140 Well, they are coming up and they're protesting this year, Cal.

01:10:16.460 They're protesting.

01:10:17.820 Shocker.

01:10:18.320 Shocker.

01:10:18.700 What are they protesting?

01:10:19.480 They're protesting.

01:10:20.980 They're planning a protest.

01:10:22.160 A bunch of actresses about the sexual harassment in Hollywood.

01:10:27.260 Pound Me Too?

01:10:27.900 Yes.

01:10:29.280 Hashtag Me Too.

01:10:30.040 It says hashtag Me Too.

01:10:31.160 Oh, sorry.

01:10:31.660 Hashtag Me Too?

01:10:32.260 I know.

01:10:32.540 That's a pound sign.

01:10:33.380 It's a pound sign.

01:10:33.700 It's a hashtag Me Too.

01:10:34.680 I thought it was called Pound Me Too.

01:10:34.720 No.

01:10:35.160 Okay.

01:10:35.600 They're only going to wear black.

01:10:38.520 Then they'll usually just wear black.

01:10:39.780 Yeah.

01:10:39.920 That's what I'm saying.

01:10:40.640 I'm like, that's not a protest.

01:10:42.040 Isn't it like evening gowns?

01:10:42.920 That's not shocking.

01:10:43.840 Evening gowns.

01:10:44.040 Right.

01:10:44.900 I'm like, that's just good fashion sense.

01:10:48.160 I mean, if they really wanted to make a statement, they'd wear nothing but like Crocs and hammer

01:10:52.360 pants.

01:10:53.060 I mean, then you're protesting.

01:10:54.560 Now you're making a statement.

01:10:55.760 I mean, all black, the little black dress, that's just like good fashion, right?

01:11:01.460 Glenn Beck.

01:11:08.140 Love.

01:11:09.700 Courage.

01:11:11.120 Truth.

01:11:11.540 Glenn Beck.

01:11:13.700 Doc Thompson in for Glenn Beck.

01:11:15.200 And thank you so much if you've donated to Brian Bresnahan's GoFundMe page.

01:11:21.760 Brian Bresnahan is a Marine who is just 36 years of age.

01:11:25.880 He retired from the service or left the service years ago and became a police officer in St.

01:11:31.940 Peter's, Missouri.

01:11:33.320 He just had at least part of his tongue removed because of cancer.

01:11:38.080 He's got a new baby daughter at home that he hasn't even been able to spend time with because

01:11:42.720 he was going through this surgery while most of us were celebrating Christmas at home.

01:11:46.820 And as a police officer with two children, it's not like the guy's getting rich.

01:11:52.420 So he could really use your help.

01:11:54.040 He's non-smoker, non-drinker.

01:11:56.160 He didn't chew.

01:11:57.700 He just ended up with this mouth cancer.

01:11:59.520 Sometimes bad things happen to good people and already people have raised $15,000 for him.

01:12:05.380 So that's going to be a huge help.

01:12:07.400 The bills alone could eat that up in seconds.

01:12:10.480 I'd love to see that go up by about tenfold.

01:12:12.940 So if you can give even $5, $10, it's GoFundMe.com slash Bresnahan dash family.

01:12:20.260 B-R-E-S-N-A-H-A-N dash family.

01:12:23.820 And I'll tweet out a link to it.

01:12:24.720 It's also my Facebook page too.

01:12:25.960 So both of them are at Doc Thompson show or slash Doc Thompson show.

01:12:29.600 And again, it's Brian Bresnahan.

01:12:31.720 So Bresnahan dash family, St. Peter's, Missouri.

01:12:36.340 Thank you so much.

01:12:37.600 It's just a nice way for we that do not believe it's the government's responsibility to take

01:12:43.140 care of our fellow man, but ours to do something.

01:12:47.460 Even $5, $10 goes a long way.

01:12:49.180 Already $15,000.

01:12:50.320 So thank you so much if you've donated.

01:12:52.820 And I wish his family the best.

01:12:55.960 Odd story over the weekend that touches a whole lot of different things going on.

01:13:01.340 First of all, over the last year, one of the biggest stories, it's probably the Me Too

01:13:07.100 campaign.

01:13:07.900 Hashtag Me Too.

01:13:09.420 Claims of sexual harassment.

01:13:11.320 Some of them founded.

01:13:12.340 Some of them unfounded.

01:13:13.860 The conflating of sexual harassment and sexual assault.

01:13:20.320 The idea that feminists have pushed this idea that only women can be sexually assaulted or harassed.

01:13:30.660 So many failures in 2017 about this.

01:13:34.280 It's not going to stop my speculation after we get beyond the holidays that you're going to see some other

01:13:39.560 prominent figures likely taken down by this as well.

01:13:43.500 Well, because people are going to wait.

01:13:45.540 If they want their pound of flesh, if they want to destroy a career, you don't release the information or the expose

01:13:50.900 during the holidays where it gets buried.

01:13:52.920 You want to do it on a slow news day after the first of the year.

01:13:56.240 We got to get a handle on this.

01:14:00.520 We have to get a handle on it because although exposure, sunlight, transparency, things being said,

01:14:10.080 no more secrets being good when it comes to this stuff because secrets protect people, people who do wrong.

01:14:16.880 They're also taking down a lot of people with allegations that aren't true.

01:14:24.740 And they're conflating a lot of different things.

01:14:27.580 So first of all, we must realize that allegations are allegations, period.

01:14:34.640 All women are to be believed has been a part of the campaign.

01:14:38.240 Every woman is to be believed.

01:14:39.860 What does that mean?

01:14:42.300 What are you saying when you say everyone deserves or should be believed?

01:14:46.880 What do you mean by that?

01:14:50.420 Believed, so therefore we don't investigate?

01:14:53.160 Their word is gold?

01:14:55.140 That as long as they make the accusation, the person is guilty?

01:14:58.780 Is that really what you mean?

01:15:01.140 If it's not, you better start clarifying.

01:15:03.820 Because I'm not subscribing to that.

01:15:06.420 That's wrong.

01:15:08.080 If what you're saying is, hey doc, listen, 20 years ago,

01:15:12.120 if a woman in an office claimed that somebody sexually harassed her or assaulted her,

01:15:16.880 often people would say, it didn't really happen.

01:15:20.860 You're trying to bring down a good man.

01:15:22.480 And they would brush it under the rug.

01:15:23.800 And the woman, her claims would never be investigated.

01:15:27.100 And they should be investigated.

01:15:29.080 That's what we mean by always believed.

01:15:32.100 Okay.

01:15:32.540 I subscribe to that.

01:15:34.460 Of course.

01:15:35.500 If somebody claims something, you investigate it.

01:15:40.460 That's how it's supposed to work.

01:15:42.560 Both in the court of public opinion and also when it comes to law enforcement.

01:15:48.600 Law enforcement officers, those of you who work in law enforcement understand this.

01:15:52.940 If somebody calls you up and says, hey, my house has been robbed.

01:15:56.920 And you go over and you start the investigation.

01:15:59.380 Sometimes right off you realize this house was not robbed.

01:16:03.080 Right?

01:16:04.020 Sometimes the investigation goes real far and you realize this house wasn't robbed.

01:16:09.080 Sometimes you realize right off it was robbed.

01:16:11.260 Sometimes the investigation goes a long time and you realize it was robbed.

01:16:14.100 The point is you investigate.

01:16:15.960 Sure.

01:16:16.140 But you don't roll on up in there and go, yep, Bob did it because they say he robbed the house.

01:16:24.080 Go get Bob.

01:16:24.920 Lock him up.

01:16:25.880 Throw away the key.

01:16:27.880 No.

01:16:28.540 It's called an investigation.

01:16:30.560 And they want to blur those lines because it's about power and control.

01:16:34.700 As awful as it was when people were not believed and there was no investigation and people got away with crimes in the past,

01:16:41.360 it's just as bad or worse when people are punished, even in just the court of public opinion, for something they did not do.

01:16:51.400 How is it worse?

01:16:55.180 It's bad if somebody gets away with something they did.

01:16:58.560 It's worse when you're punished for something you didn't do.

01:17:01.800 Do you disagree with that?

01:17:02.700 I would rather set 10 people free who did something wrong than in prison somebody who didn't do something.

01:17:14.400 That's the reason we have innocent until proven guilty.

01:17:17.800 That needs to extend now to the court of public opinion.

01:17:22.440 Because reputation and social media is where we live now.

01:17:26.080 And you can ruin lives with an allegation.

01:17:29.340 That's the truth.

01:17:30.300 And finally, as part of this movement, we've got to understand the difference between somebody telling an off-color joke that maybe you don't want to hear

01:17:39.660 and somebody gang-raping somebody.

01:17:44.720 Huge difference.

01:17:46.280 But the hashtag MeToo campaign does not talk about the differences.

01:17:52.180 You get people that are like, listen, when I was 14, I was gang-raped by six guys at school.

01:17:58.260 And they tell a very troubling story with the hashtag MeToo.

01:18:03.160 And you're like, wow, that's horrible.

01:18:05.980 And then the other people are like, hashtag MeToo.

01:18:10.820 I walked in on Pete and Steve in the kitchen at work.

01:18:14.980 And I heard them talking about something.

01:18:17.340 And one of them said the word ass.

01:18:20.740 Scarred for life.

01:18:21.960 How would I ever get over it?

01:18:25.260 It's like, seriously, even if you have a problem with it, big difference from the girl who told the story about being 14 and gang-raped.

01:18:32.660 Big difference there.

01:18:34.680 And you're doing a disservice to the people who are most severely impacted by sexual assault

01:18:40.700 when you tell your story about somebody saying something inappropriate.

01:18:45.320 What, you were ogled on the street?

01:18:49.380 Hey, look at those hooters!

01:18:50.960 Woo!

01:18:52.540 Yeah, that sucks.

01:18:54.780 Maybe you don't like it.

01:18:55.680 Maybe it made you uncomfortable.

01:18:57.060 Feel a little insecure, unsafe.

01:18:59.280 That's horrible and shouldn't have happened.

01:19:01.780 How dare you tell that story

01:19:04.440 when the person tells about being

01:19:07.320 raped?

01:19:08.600 Don't you feel stupid?

01:19:13.160 Cal, have you ever

01:19:13.880 you ever been with your friends

01:19:15.660 and they're telling stories

01:19:17.180 even if it's something good

01:19:18.480 and you're like,

01:19:19.180 oh my gosh, this one time

01:19:20.680 and it was awesome

01:19:21.560 and we did this

01:19:22.180 and your other friend's like,

01:19:23.140 oh my gosh, this one time

01:19:24.400 we whatever

01:19:24.860 and you're like,

01:19:26.160 yeah, this one time

01:19:27.380 I did this

01:19:28.060 and your story just goes

01:19:29.560 oh.

01:19:31.560 They're like, wow,

01:19:32.420 that's not a fun, good story at all.

01:19:35.540 Thanks for bringing it down.

01:19:36.780 Okay.

01:19:36.860 You're feeling stupid.

01:19:39.580 That's what they're doing here.

01:19:40.720 You got all these people

01:19:41.380 telling horrible things

01:19:42.360 that happened to them

01:19:42.900 about being raped.

01:19:44.160 Horrible.

01:19:45.420 Assaults.

01:19:46.480 And they're like,

01:19:47.580 I heard a dirty joke once.

01:19:49.460 It was horrible.

01:19:50.760 I'm like, come on, seriously.

01:19:52.280 So knock it off.

01:19:54.020 If we do not figure that stuff out,

01:19:56.780 we are doomed to ruin lives.

01:20:01.460 No, absolutely.

01:20:02.300 I mean, nowadays it's a,

01:20:04.320 it's a, it's already a judgment.

01:20:06.080 It's a sentence.

01:20:06.540 If you get accused,

01:20:07.940 it pretty much will follow you

01:20:08.980 for the rest of your life.

01:20:09.860 Oh, yeah.

01:20:10.920 Because now,

01:20:11.880 go get that job.

01:20:12.960 Go look for a job

01:20:13.820 where they don't check

01:20:15.140 your social media.

01:20:16.140 Yeah.

01:20:17.440 Go to a job

01:20:18.080 where they don't do

01:20:18.640 a little quick little

01:20:19.440 Google search for you.

01:20:21.260 Let me type in Doc Thompson.

01:20:22.860 He works for Glenn Beck.

01:20:24.760 Right?

01:20:25.540 Yeah.

01:20:26.100 By the way,

01:20:26.540 I've already known that.

01:20:27.660 I am scarred.

01:20:29.100 For life.

01:20:29.740 I know that.

01:20:31.200 I am.

01:20:31.440 My job prospects

01:20:32.700 have been severely limited.

01:20:34.920 Why do you think

01:20:35.380 I'm so nice to Glenn?

01:20:37.040 Because if he fires me,

01:20:38.220 I've got no other option

01:20:39.260 at this point.

01:20:40.620 I'm tainted by the stink of Glenn.

01:20:43.720 I am.

01:20:44.540 I mean,

01:20:44.840 I have my own stink.

01:20:46.040 Don't get me wrong.

01:20:47.060 They wouldn't want me

01:20:48.100 because of my own funk.

01:20:49.520 Your proximity to.

01:20:50.660 But I've got Glenn funk on me too.

01:20:53.360 You got Glenn funk.

01:20:55.280 Not as much as you do.

01:20:56.300 I have much more Glenn funk.

01:20:57.680 That is true.

01:20:58.600 There's a whole media matter page

01:21:00.120 of things that I've said

01:21:00.920 while filling in for Glenn.

01:21:02.620 You got a lot more funk.

01:21:03.800 I have a lot more funk.

01:21:05.160 That is true.

01:21:05.720 I've used this show

01:21:06.540 to funkify myself though too.

01:21:08.300 So I'm responsible

01:21:09.700 for part of it.

01:21:10.540 Yeah.

01:21:11.180 But it will follow you everywhere.

01:21:13.960 It just will.

01:21:15.200 So the idea

01:21:16.500 where some have said

01:21:17.680 some so-called conservatives

01:21:21.060 have said

01:21:21.860 the idea of innocent

01:21:24.920 until proven guilty

01:21:25.760 is a legal term

01:21:27.880 and has no bearing

01:21:30.020 in the court of public opinion.

01:21:32.760 You're wrong.

01:21:34.040 Absolutely wrong.

01:21:34.940 Okay.

01:21:35.200 Maybe not legally

01:21:36.300 but you think it shouldn't

01:21:37.980 because that's what I'm getting

01:21:39.360 from you Mitt Romney

01:21:40.420 when you claim these things.

01:21:43.140 I think there should be

01:21:44.240 a punishment

01:21:44.620 if you're accused of something

01:21:46.120 and it's proven

01:21:46.800 that you are innocent

01:21:48.320 there should be a punishment

01:21:49.920 on the accuser.

01:21:51.500 Absolutely.

01:21:52.220 With false accusations.

01:21:53.400 Absolutely.

01:21:53.880 Now in some cases

01:21:54.620 there are

01:21:54.980 depending on what

01:21:55.460 the allegations are

01:21:56.520 but in many cases

01:21:58.080 not certainly not

01:21:58.820 in the court of public opinion

01:21:59.700 we have had

01:22:00.480 multiple stories recently

01:22:02.320 of somebody doing

01:22:04.520 something racist

01:22:05.280 spray painting

01:22:06.160 a racist sign

01:22:07.120 I think was around

01:22:07.940 the University of Michigan

01:22:09.380 Yeah.

01:22:10.500 And some other places

01:22:11.740 where somebody

01:22:12.200 spray paints something

01:22:13.080 on it

01:22:13.340 or the dinner table thing

01:22:14.660 where they had

01:22:15.100 a cotton plant

01:22:16.320 That's right.

01:22:17.740 Yeah.

01:22:17.980 They freaked out over that

01:22:19.080 saying that that was racist

01:22:20.220 black and they were

01:22:21.140 invited to dinner

01:22:21.860 and the centerpiece

01:22:23.440 Well that one

01:22:24.120 that one was true

01:22:25.380 that's crazy

01:22:26.000 but that was more misleading

01:22:27.180 they believed it was racist

01:22:28.780 and said they shouldn't have done it

01:22:30.220 that was at a university

01:22:31.640 I want to see somewhere

01:22:32.260 in the Midwest

01:22:32.700 but we had multiple cases

01:22:35.140 where people go

01:22:35.940 look at this

01:22:36.480 someone spray painted

01:22:37.280 the n-word on my car

01:22:38.320 and I'm black

01:22:38.800 and this is horrible

01:22:39.440 and it's clearly racism

01:22:40.480 and then you turn that

01:22:41.680 turns out

01:22:42.220 no they didn't

01:22:43.140 you did that

01:22:43.900 Oh yeah

01:22:44.340 or yeah

01:22:44.880 where people did it

01:22:46.260 to themselves

01:22:46.660 or another

01:22:47.200 you know like a black person

01:22:48.640 did it

01:22:48.960 or such a cause

01:22:50.080 to problems

01:22:50.940 and that

01:22:51.680 there's four or five cases

01:22:52.980 those just in the last

01:22:53.780 two months

01:22:54.760 do you realize

01:22:56.920 what a disservice

01:22:57.560 you're doing

01:22:57.980 to people who really

01:22:59.040 go through that

01:22:59.740 Oh yeah

01:23:00.260 in those cases

01:23:01.500 and quite often

01:23:03.220 it's swept under the rug

01:23:04.320 we don't want to hear

01:23:04.880 about those

01:23:05.540 they can't talk about that

01:23:06.820 whatever

01:23:07.020 yeah they're wrong

01:23:07.580 let's just go away

01:23:08.420 no

01:23:09.340 talk about it

01:23:10.460 they should be a social pariah

01:23:11.860 the same way

01:23:12.540 or more

01:23:13.220 as the person

01:23:14.440 who did it

01:23:15.240 to be racist

01:23:16.440 against

01:23:17.080 you know

01:23:17.580 certain people

01:23:18.220 absolutely

01:23:18.940 well there's another story

01:23:20.720 that broke over the weekend

01:23:21.760 that has to do with

01:23:22.900 the hashtag me too

01:23:24.460 and the allegations

01:23:25.140 of sexual improprieties

01:23:26.900 an allegation

01:23:27.980 against Trump's

01:23:28.940 former campaign manager

01:23:30.400 Corey Lewandowski

01:23:31.420 he was accused

01:23:33.920 by singer Joy Villa

01:23:35.140 of sexual assault

01:23:37.740 multiple sexual assault

01:23:39.620 in one

01:23:40.740 at one time

01:23:42.520 during one event

01:23:43.980 she told him

01:23:45.240 no don't do something

01:23:46.260 and he allegedly

01:23:47.100 did it again

01:23:47.980 Joy is a singer

01:23:51.920 you may recognize her

01:23:53.200 she has been

01:23:54.520 one more of a

01:23:55.340 social media success

01:23:56.960 singer

01:23:58.140 not necessarily

01:23:58.880 the radio play

01:23:59.720 traditional whatever

01:24:00.560 but still successful

01:24:01.720 but you may recognize her

01:24:03.180 she's the one

01:24:03.840 who wore the MAGA dress

01:24:05.360 at the Grammys

01:24:07.000 a year ago

01:24:07.700 she wore the white dress

01:24:09.780 all of a sudden

01:24:10.260 dropped it

01:24:10.840 and underneath it

01:24:11.940 she had that tight

01:24:12.640 red white and blue MAGA

01:24:13.700 make America great again

01:24:14.960 dress

01:24:15.220 she supports Donald Trump

01:24:16.560 as a woman

01:24:17.020 and she also happens

01:24:18.580 to be black

01:24:19.120 so this was shocking

01:24:20.000 and people at the Grammys

01:24:20.960 were shocked

01:24:21.400 how dare you as a black woman

01:24:22.520 support President Trump

01:24:23.920 he's a racist

01:24:24.480 and all of this nonsense

01:24:25.400 and she may eventually

01:24:27.220 run for Congress now

01:24:28.480 we know Joy

01:24:30.360 I like Joy

01:24:32.000 she's fun

01:24:32.820 we've been to

01:24:33.680 social events with her

01:24:35.260 and she's just a lot of fun

01:24:36.420 I don't agree with all

01:24:38.080 of her opinions on stuff

01:24:39.260 but I appreciate that

01:24:40.540 she's more conservative

01:24:41.460 than not

01:24:42.080 Joy's okay

01:24:43.700 well we interviewed her

01:24:45.400 this morning

01:24:45.900 on our morning radio broadcast

01:24:47.740 to get to the bottom

01:24:48.760 of the allegations

01:24:49.920 against Corey Lewandowski

01:24:51.500 and to kind of hold

01:24:53.280 her feet to the fire

01:24:54.260 ask her some tough

01:24:55.020 questions about it

01:24:55.960 I'm going to get to

01:24:57.080 some of that

01:24:57.600 coming up next

01:24:58.260 on the Glenn Beck program

01:24:59.300 Glenn Beck

01:25:03.340 Glenn Beck

01:25:10.960 this morning

01:25:12.840 we had Joy Villa

01:25:13.560 on our morning radio broadcast

01:25:15.000 you can hear

01:25:15.840 the entire interview

01:25:16.860 at theblaze.com

01:25:18.280 just go to theblaze.com

01:25:19.660 you'll see the story

01:25:20.460 up there

01:25:20.900 with Joy Villa

01:25:21.520 from our radio broadcast

01:25:23.180 but I want to share

01:25:24.020 some of the interview

01:25:25.500 this morning

01:25:26.000 where I asked her

01:25:26.700 about her allegations

01:25:27.980 against Corey Lewandowski

01:25:29.540 the former campaign manager

01:25:30.900 for Donald Trump

01:25:32.220 she said this happened

01:25:33.600 recently

01:25:34.260 about a month ago

01:25:35.180 at a MAGA

01:25:35.960 like first anniversary

01:25:37.600 of Trump being elected

01:25:39.040 party

01:25:39.880 here's the interview

01:25:41.340 joining us now

01:25:42.120 a friend of ours

01:25:44.300 Joy Villa

01:25:44.860 how are you?

01:25:45.960 Hey doc

01:25:46.640 good morning

01:25:47.360 good morning

01:25:48.360 you may recall

01:25:49.460 Joy first probably

01:25:51.060 became

01:25:51.860 you probably first

01:25:52.500 became aware of Joy

01:25:53.280 when she wore the MAGA dress

01:25:54.760 many of you became

01:25:55.680 aware of her

01:25:56.340 because she's a singer

01:25:57.400 and has quite a few hits out

01:25:59.160 and Joy

01:26:00.700 has gotten

01:26:02.040 quite a bit of attention

01:26:02.840 the last couple of days

01:26:03.960 because you claim

01:26:05.220 that Corey Lewandowski

01:26:06.660 did something

01:26:07.500 inappropriate

01:26:08.180 to you

01:26:09.260 you know

01:26:09.660 I definitely don't want

01:26:10.740 or need this kind of press

01:26:12.120 but

01:26:12.600 I was at a party

01:26:14.800 it was a celebration

01:26:16.000 of the president's inauguration

01:26:17.580 the MAGA private party

01:26:19.120 at Trump Hotel

01:26:20.020 in D.C.

01:26:21.220 in November

01:26:21.820 late November

01:26:22.440 after Thanksgiving

01:26:23.480 actually the day after

01:26:24.580 and

01:26:25.480 you know

01:26:26.360 I was introduced

01:26:26.920 to Corey Lewandowski

01:26:28.160 I mean he was obviously drunk

01:26:29.940 and pretty boorish

01:26:31.860 he grabbed me

01:26:32.980 he smacks my butt

01:26:35.240 extremely hard

01:26:36.460 and

01:26:37.180 jolted me quite a bit

01:26:38.640 I was very shocked

01:26:39.520 so I told him

01:26:40.100 stop it

01:26:40.780 no that's not okay

01:26:42.300 you know

01:26:42.860 I can report to you

01:26:43.500 for sexual harassment

01:26:44.420 I'll never forget this

01:26:45.620 he looks at me

01:26:46.300 straight in the eyes

01:26:46.980 and he says

01:26:47.380 go ahead

01:26:47.960 I work in the private sector

01:26:49.860 and he proceeds

01:26:51.380 to smack me again

01:26:52.880 like again

01:26:53.820 even harder

01:26:54.540 and laughs in my face

01:26:56.220 okay

01:26:57.440 this is odd

01:26:58.380 so I guess

01:26:59.300 the first question

01:27:00.040 is why now

01:27:00.940 I mean

01:27:01.920 I didn't wait long

01:27:03.520 but

01:27:03.840 the reason I didn't

01:27:05.200 report it right away

01:27:06.180 is because I was scared

01:27:07.480 quite frankly

01:27:08.240 I'm looking

01:27:09.120 gearing up

01:27:09.680 for a potential

01:27:10.260 congress run

01:27:11.140 in Florida

01:27:12.100 and this is a very

01:27:13.520 powerful man

01:27:14.540 who has very

01:27:15.320 influential ties

01:27:16.640 to the president

01:27:17.360 you know

01:27:17.720 he just wrote a book

01:27:18.480 and something like that

01:27:19.360 and he's going on a tour

01:27:20.380 I mean he's been

01:27:21.520 making moves

01:27:22.260 I knew him by reputation

01:27:23.380 I had never met him

01:27:24.480 before in person

01:27:25.360 or been contacted

01:27:26.940 it was a very odd

01:27:29.160 and shocking

01:27:29.900 first meeting

01:27:30.760 I mean I was

01:27:31.340 I was absolutely shocked

01:27:32.460 I mean my bubble

01:27:33.100 was totally burst

01:27:33.940 it went from safe

01:27:35.640 party

01:27:36.520 you know

01:27:36.920 holiday celebration

01:27:38.040 party to

01:27:38.580 wow I'm really not safe

01:27:39.860 even amongst my own people

01:27:41.140 what's the purpose of this

01:27:42.280 why did you decide

01:27:43.180 to come forward

01:27:44.020 why didn't you just

01:27:44.900 blow it off then

01:27:45.720 you know

01:27:46.800 I filed it away

01:27:47.880 and sort of

01:27:48.360 it was like

01:27:48.820 oh this sucks

01:27:49.780 I don't really want

01:27:50.540 to talk about this

01:27:51.360 so I decided to go

01:27:52.440 on the record

01:27:53.000 and have

01:27:53.800 you know

01:27:54.360 since filed a report

01:27:55.480 with a detective

01:27:56.180 because of my family

01:27:57.260 and friends urging

01:27:58.040 and two witnesses

01:27:59.240 are on that report

01:28:00.160 and a part of the investigation

01:28:01.340 so I mean

01:28:02.520 they take it very seriously

01:28:03.520 I was going to report

01:28:04.460 it as sexual harassment

01:28:05.420 which I thought this was

01:28:06.860 and the detective says

01:28:08.140 no

01:28:08.520 what you described

01:28:09.340 this is sexual assault

01:28:10.940 yeah

01:28:11.220 now I have to say

01:28:12.300 still because we've said

01:28:13.220 this over and over

01:28:14.000 these are still allegations

01:28:15.840 he hasn't been tried

01:28:17.300 convicted

01:28:17.800 anything like that

01:28:18.720 you do have witnesses

01:28:19.540 so that certainly gives

01:28:20.980 you know

01:28:21.580 some credibility to it

01:28:22.860 but still at this point

01:28:24.860 like all of them

01:28:25.740 allegations

01:28:26.460 I think you've gotten

01:28:27.800 quite a bit of criticism

01:28:28.740 online of people saying

01:28:30.000 it's not a big deal

01:28:31.080 why are you doing this

01:28:32.180 supposedly

01:28:33.440 there's a video

01:28:35.040 that people are sharing

01:28:35.960 online right now

01:28:37.240 of you

01:28:38.220 at some sort of gathering

01:28:39.840 slapping some dude's ass

01:28:41.760 sure

01:28:42.420 is there a double standard here

01:28:44.140 well there's a double standard

01:28:45.840 in the fact that

01:28:46.740 if you are a woman

01:28:47.600 in a situation where

01:28:49.120 you know

01:28:49.740 like you like

01:28:50.760 physical contact

01:28:52.160 you're pursuing

01:28:53.220 physical contact

01:28:54.080 and it's all

01:28:54.840 okay at that time

01:28:56.320 and you don't

01:28:58.280 you know

01:28:58.600 and then

01:28:58.940 at a later

01:28:59.620 instance

01:29:00.540 you report that

01:29:01.500 as a crime

01:29:02.080 oh that's horrible

01:29:03.120 I mean

01:29:03.580 I'm not saying

01:29:04.240 that's okay

01:29:04.800 I was amongst friends

01:29:06.160 this is a very

01:29:06.940 different situation

01:29:08.080 I was very much

01:29:09.440 amongst friends

01:29:10.780 we were all acting

01:29:11.960 goofy

01:29:12.340 we were all acting

01:29:12.920 silly

01:29:13.200 we were all talking

01:29:13.920 together

01:29:14.280 and had he turned

01:29:15.280 around and gone

01:29:15.740 stop it

01:29:16.540 I would have apologized

01:29:17.640 and go oh I'm so sorry

01:29:18.520 I was joking

01:29:19.440 so we have to make it clear

01:29:21.240 because I know a lot of people

01:29:22.400 are confused

01:29:22.980 yes

01:29:23.380 and most men are gentlemen

01:29:24.460 and most women are ladies

01:29:25.820 and I don't want this to

01:29:26.800 confuse anyone

01:29:27.920 if it happened the way

01:29:28.940 you said it with Corey

01:29:29.880 and literally

01:29:31.000 yes

01:29:31.560 immediately after

01:29:32.720 somebody else walked up

01:29:33.880 did the exact same thing

01:29:35.480 and you were fine with it

01:29:36.700 that doesn't forgive

01:29:37.940 somebody else

01:29:38.760 because

01:29:39.320 absolutely

01:29:40.120 you are fine with it

01:29:41.180 it doesn't matter

01:29:42.260 it's like saying

01:29:42.920 it's all about the consent

01:29:44.120 and I mean

01:29:44.920 am I someone who's never

01:29:45.840 been slapped on the butt

01:29:46.900 of course I have been

01:29:48.340 but it's all about consent

01:29:49.420 I mean

01:29:49.840 you can hear the entire

01:29:51.220 you can hear the entire

01:29:53.080 interview at theblaze.com

01:29:54.900 the story's posted right now

01:29:56.220 I even challenged her

01:29:57.440 because some people said

01:29:58.240 listen

01:29:58.500 you mentioned your

01:29:59.480 congressional run

01:30:00.300 four times

01:30:01.120 this is simply trying

01:30:02.420 to get publicity

01:30:03.280 is that what you're doing

01:30:04.280 I even asked her

01:30:05.440 I'm like

01:30:05.880 what do you want

01:30:07.120 from Corey

01:30:07.720 you're pressing charges

01:30:09.160 would you not

01:30:09.860 if he apologized

01:30:10.580 and she said

01:30:11.380 yeah if he apologizes

01:30:12.680 then I wouldn't

01:30:14.000 have pressed charges

01:30:14.880 Glenn Beck

01:30:20.120 this is the

01:30:29.520 Glenn Beck program

01:30:30.440 kind of an odd story

01:30:33.080 about Corey Lewandowski

01:30:34.920 and Joy Villa

01:30:36.540 I was making sure

01:30:39.060 trying to make sure

01:30:39.840 during our interview

01:30:40.520 this morning

01:30:41.020 that we asked her

01:30:42.080 you know

01:30:42.880 the difficult questions

01:30:43.760 we're friends with Joy

01:30:45.420 we're not close friends

01:30:46.460 but we've been to

01:30:47.480 social gatherings together

01:30:48.840 Joy does a lot for

01:30:50.160 charities

01:30:51.440 for Mercury One charity

01:30:52.940 she did a lot to raise money

01:30:54.560 for the victims

01:30:55.440 of Hurricane Harvey

01:30:56.440 so that's how

01:30:57.900 I got to know her

01:30:59.120 through that

01:30:59.660 she was at the

01:31:00.880 Mercury One Ball

01:31:01.880 a couple of weeks ago

01:31:03.500 actually probably

01:31:05.120 about a month ago

01:31:05.760 and we spent some time together

01:31:06.920 she's fun

01:31:08.080 she's gregarious

01:31:09.340 she

01:31:09.880 you know

01:31:10.960 likes to have a drink

01:31:11.840 and have some fun

01:31:13.060 at a party

01:31:13.540 nothing wrong with that

01:31:15.120 that's fine

01:31:15.760 but I didn't know why

01:31:18.000 she would even bring this up

01:31:21.080 and I asked her about it

01:31:23.260 in the interview

01:31:23.760 again go to theblaze.com

01:31:25.220 you see the story about

01:31:26.180 halfway down the page

01:31:27.580 theblaze.com

01:31:28.460 you can hear the entire thing

01:31:29.580 and I challenged her

01:31:30.900 on this stuff

01:31:31.480 still though

01:31:32.560 I was shocked to hear

01:31:33.840 how many people

01:31:34.360 to see how many people

01:31:35.060 on social media

01:31:35.980 were really against her

01:31:37.740 in this thing

01:31:38.360 a couple people

01:31:42.000 rightfully brought up

01:31:43.200 in response

01:31:44.600 to their questioning

01:31:45.440 why she would report it

01:31:46.720 of

01:31:47.060 listen we've told women

01:31:48.500 to report this stuff

01:31:49.660 so why

01:31:50.800 why are you

01:31:51.900 bagging on her

01:31:52.700 let her

01:31:53.200 let her report it

01:31:54.500 why should she not

01:31:55.460 I guess my hang up

01:31:57.980 here Cal

01:31:58.400 is I

01:31:59.040 probably wouldn't

01:32:01.820 report it

01:32:02.580 she claims

01:32:03.760 if it happened to you

01:32:04.360 right

01:32:05.500 so

01:32:05.960 and it's hard to put myself

01:32:07.800 in the shoes

01:32:08.220 if I were a female

01:32:09.080 and it's different

01:32:09.920 I get all that

01:32:10.720 she claims

01:32:11.900 Corey Lewandowski

01:32:12.640 at a party

01:32:13.420 while drunk

01:32:14.480 her words

01:32:15.200 slapped her hard

01:32:17.140 on the fanny

01:32:17.920 she told him

01:32:19.540 not to

01:32:20.180 he said

01:32:21.640 I work in the private sector

01:32:22.820 too damn bad

01:32:23.760 and did it again

01:32:24.600 really hard

01:32:25.300 right

01:32:27.640 that's basically it

01:32:28.660 uh-huh

01:32:29.300 okay

01:32:31.100 she told him no

01:32:32.060 she did what's right

01:32:33.720 he did it again

01:32:34.820 certainly he's wrong

01:32:36.280 he knew better

01:32:36.940 I don't know

01:32:40.000 if I would have

01:32:40.460 reported it though

01:32:41.560 I think I would have

01:32:42.480 just walked away

01:32:43.220 and said

01:32:43.620 what a

01:32:44.480 what a jerk

01:32:45.580 what an ass

01:32:46.240 well a lot of the feedback

01:32:47.120 we got

01:32:47.800 um

01:32:48.400 from people

01:32:49.400 uh

01:32:49.900 online

01:32:50.340 a lot

01:32:50.720 most of the women

01:32:51.540 were just like

01:32:52.740 I don't know if I

01:32:53.280 same as you said

01:32:53.980 I don't know if I

01:32:54.420 probably just would have

01:32:55.180 punched him or something

01:32:55.960 or like you know

01:32:56.720 put him in his place

01:32:57.600 and then walked away

01:32:58.960 a lot of people

01:32:59.520 that thought that

01:33:00.220 she was reporting it

01:33:01.120 were saying

01:33:02.000 that they felt

01:33:02.620 that it was a publicity

01:33:03.540 thing because she

01:33:04.380 wants to run for

01:33:05.020 Congress

01:33:05.440 right exactly

01:33:07.000 yeah and I

01:33:07.740 understand why they

01:33:08.400 say that

01:33:08.760 not everybody is

01:33:10.120 going to react

01:33:10.720 physically

01:33:11.120 not everybody is

01:33:11.920 comfortable with

01:33:12.560 pushing him or

01:33:13.220 shoving or something

01:33:13.940 like that

01:33:14.380 not not everybody's

01:33:15.260 going to do that

01:33:15.880 so I get that

01:33:17.280 maybe after the fact

01:33:19.460 she thought

01:33:19.940 okay I want him

01:33:20.860 punished somehow

01:33:21.760 so you report it

01:33:23.140 we did not

01:33:24.740 she did not

01:33:25.600 contact us this

01:33:26.460 morning we called

01:33:27.080 her when we heard

01:33:27.640 about stories so she

01:33:28.420 wasn't clamming for

01:33:29.240 clamoring for

01:33:29.980 attention

01:33:30.380 she says

01:33:31.300 politico contacted

01:33:32.380 her

01:33:32.760 I don't know

01:33:35.600 I mean there's

01:33:35.900 certainly ways to

01:33:36.600 leak the story or

01:33:37.280 get it out there for

01:33:38.040 publicity

01:33:38.520 it's certainly not

01:33:40.120 going to hurt her to

01:33:41.080 have the extra

01:33:41.640 attention

01:33:42.100 I don't think I

01:33:45.460 would have reported

01:33:46.140 it but it's

01:33:46.700 certainly her right

01:33:47.660 is it not

01:33:49.420 one of the biggest

01:33:53.480 problems when it

01:33:55.600 comes to sexual

01:33:56.280 harassment sexual

01:33:57.560 assaults is not

01:34:00.600 speaking up I

01:34:03.340 think there should

01:34:03.980 be some sort of

01:34:04.820 statute of

01:34:05.300 limitations even in

01:34:06.180 the court of public

01:34:06.800 opinion if somebody

01:34:08.640 comes to you and

01:34:09.880 says in 1972 that

01:34:13.600 guy while I worked

01:34:14.820 for him dot dot dot

01:34:16.800 it was 19 come on

01:34:21.340 it's 40 years ago

01:34:22.700 yeah I think there

01:34:23.760 should be some sort

01:34:25.000 of limitations

01:34:25.460 definitely not that

01:34:26.720 it didn't happen

01:34:27.560 not that yeah not

01:34:28.320 that you're negating

01:34:29.080 it or taking anything

01:34:29.880 away from it but if

01:34:30.680 you wait 40 years

01:34:31.920 it's just it's like

01:34:33.380 cold case come on

01:34:34.420 I think it's also

01:34:34.700 much harder for you

01:34:35.760 to as a victim try

01:34:37.080 to get some sort of

01:34:38.020 closure or

01:34:39.180 compensation whatever

01:34:39.940 you're looking for

01:34:40.720 you're gonna have a

01:34:41.960 much harder time of

01:34:42.700 proving that you know

01:34:43.800 when it was that

01:34:44.700 right exactly and I

01:34:45.780 understand different

01:34:46.300 time you didn't feel

01:34:47.220 like you could report

01:34:48.160 it but come on at

01:34:49.320 some point I say

01:34:52.060 generally speaking even

01:34:53.060 in the court of public

01:34:53.760 opinion I will

01:34:55.020 reluctantly give you a

01:34:56.080 year if you want to

01:34:59.580 make it a year and a

01:35:00.280 half fine I'm not

01:35:01.240 gonna I'm gonna fight

01:35:02.800 you on it but come on

01:35:03.980 a couple years you

01:35:05.060 know playing devil's

01:35:05.800 advocate a lot of

01:35:06.780 women say they don't

01:35:07.860 come forward because

01:35:08.600 of basically kind of

01:35:09.980 what you're saying

01:35:10.460 where they they

01:35:11.340 their their accusation

01:35:13.220 gets stripped down and

01:35:14.340 the you know it

01:35:16.180 takes away from the

01:35:17.500 whole thing well

01:35:20.300 right oh well were

01:35:21.200 you this were you

01:35:21.780 that are you sure

01:35:22.440 maybe it was this

01:35:23.400 maybe you were just

01:35:24.440 you know what did

01:35:25.100 you provoke it did

01:35:25.880 you you know they

01:35:26.440 just tear apart right

01:35:28.360 so even when joy came

01:35:29.520 forward and I heard

01:35:30.080 her story I was like

01:35:31.080 it almost seems maybe

01:35:33.900 there's a better word

01:35:34.820 I'm gonna go ahead and

01:35:36.200 use it admitting it's

01:35:37.500 probably not perfect

01:35:38.680 petty it almost seems

01:35:41.580 petty to report for

01:35:44.580 prosecution to go to

01:35:46.860 the cops and say I

01:35:47.680 want him charged for

01:35:50.060 him slapping her on

01:35:50.920 the fanny even if it

01:35:51.760 was hard twice you're

01:35:54.180 saying it was you

01:35:55.260 know obviously it was

01:35:55.940 wrong and yes without

01:35:57.480 question hensable but

01:35:58.920 don't do it you're

01:36:00.160 kind of putting it on

01:36:00.840 the level of like an

01:36:01.680 actual assault of and

01:36:03.500 it was assault rape or

01:36:05.020 something something

01:36:06.020 really serious right

01:36:07.340 I'm I'm saying it

01:36:08.700 seems let me see the

01:36:10.660 her actions seem

01:36:12.280 disproportionate a

01:36:14.960 disproportionate response

01:36:17.160 to go to the police

01:36:18.540 that I'm just saying at

01:36:19.340 first glance that's what

01:36:22.200 I think even though I

01:36:23.620 saying does this warrant

01:36:24.540 like an actual

01:36:25.120 prosecution right now

01:36:26.720 that's certainly up to

01:36:27.380 the prosecutor to follow

01:36:28.460 suit to see if there's

01:36:29.860 more meat to it if it's

01:36:31.760 worth prosecuting I

01:36:33.160 mean they're they have

01:36:33.820 prosecutorial discretion we

01:36:35.480 know that and maybe he

01:36:37.540 won't but in my mind I

01:36:39.980 think really just you're

01:36:42.680 gonna prosecute over

01:36:43.980 being slapped on the

01:36:44.800 fanny a couple of times

01:36:46.020 that's my first reaction

01:36:47.640 but after I heard joy and

01:36:51.000 I thought about it and I

01:36:52.820 thought we've told women

01:36:53.720 to come forward which she

01:36:54.900 did report it okay would

01:37:00.760 you report it if it

01:37:03.800 happened to you Cal twice

01:37:05.560 at a party somebody

01:37:07.500 comes to you they slap

01:37:08.440 you on the ass you're

01:37:09.200 like dude seriously and

01:37:10.780 it was hard and the

01:37:11.520 second time you're like I

01:37:12.260 told you knock it off

01:37:13.360 are you gonna go to the

01:37:14.520 cops probably not right

01:37:15.900 I don't think that I

01:37:19.260 would go to the cops okay

01:37:20.640 but I'm a father of two

01:37:22.360 girls do your wife and how

01:37:24.420 about my wife and if

01:37:25.840 again I'm not a we think

01:37:27.620 differently we're guys so

01:37:28.720 yes if they felt in any

01:37:30.820 way violated or anything

01:37:32.600 like that I would

01:37:33.440 definitely tell them yes

01:37:34.940 go and who am I to say

01:37:36.780 it wasn't significant

01:37:38.620 enough for you to report

01:37:40.020 it exactly and that's

01:37:41.620 what I have to go back

01:37:42.400 to she they don't it's

01:37:44.020 not like they work for

01:37:44.980 it's not a traditional

01:37:45.700 like job environment it's

01:37:47.920 not like she can go to

01:37:48.760 his boss and get him

01:37:50.220 because that really wasn't

01:37:51.000 a job it was a party so

01:37:52.720 and he doesn't even they

01:37:53.940 don't they're not in the

01:37:54.920 same circles kind of like

01:37:56.580 they don't work in the

01:37:57.440 same company she can't go

01:37:58.100 report him basically there's

01:37:59.940 nothing lesser that she can

01:38:01.120 do you know the only

01:38:02.500 option she's really got

01:38:03.600 here yeah if you work the

01:38:04.420 same company you just

01:38:05.160 report it maybe and maybe

01:38:06.180 get him fired or something

01:38:07.200 but at this point she can't

01:38:08.740 do that so the only real

01:38:10.440 option she has is to you

01:38:11.760 know talk to a detective

01:38:12.600 like she said she did and

01:38:13.580 maybe consider prosecuting

01:38:15.360 right because look at it

01:38:17.320 again she was at a party

01:38:18.520 although she worked

01:38:19.880 somewhat for the campaign

01:38:21.000 he was a campaign manager

01:38:22.160 they didn't work together

01:38:23.160 she didn't know him he

01:38:24.460 didn't know her they were

01:38:25.240 at a party just celebrating

01:38:26.860 Trump's victory a year

01:38:28.540 later just a couple months

01:38:30.040 ago and that was it so

01:38:33.160 that's the equivalent of

01:38:34.540 your wife being at a bar

01:38:35.960 with friends meeting some

01:38:38.200 dude who walks up to her

01:38:40.700 slaps her heart on the

01:38:42.020 fanny and she says don't

01:38:44.340 get away from me then he

01:38:46.260 says what are you gonna do

01:38:46.960 about blah blah blah and

01:38:48.120 slaps her again well for my

01:38:49.640 wife she would have broken

01:38:50.380 his arm but yeah she

01:38:53.040 probably would have right

01:38:55.600 exactly yeah my wife would

01:38:58.120 not tolerate that yeah if

01:39:00.300 it had been my mom or

01:39:01.180 sisters the guy would have

01:39:02.360 been question here let's

01:39:03.740 say she did uh punch him

01:39:06.160 break something you know

01:39:07.160 cause physical harm she is

01:39:08.800 also then now she's up for

01:39:10.680 yeah assault as well exactly

01:39:12.240 now sometimes they will do

01:39:14.520 which came first you know

01:39:15.820 who whatever it was kind of

01:39:17.460 defending yourself type of

01:39:18.580 thing but still she could be

01:39:20.740 prosecuted absolutely so my

01:39:23.580 first reaction with this

01:39:25.580 stuff is is come on really

01:39:29.680 is it worth it what are you

01:39:30.820 doing joy it's not really

01:39:32.200 but then who am I to say

01:39:34.020 you shouldn't if you felt it

01:39:35.800 was that serious now people

01:39:37.620 have videos out there a joy

01:39:38.920 slapping some guy in the

01:39:40.060 fanny yeah there was a

01:39:41.960 party different party party

01:39:43.600 video yeah as hypocritical as

01:39:47.100 that seems sorry you don't get

01:39:51.900 to say just because one person

01:39:55.100 touched me there did this to

01:39:57.760 me everybody gets to we don't

01:39:59.400 that's not how it operates you

01:40:01.720 know I mean Cal I'm gonna give

01:40:03.380 you um your daughters may reach

01:40:07.500 over take a bite of your food

01:40:09.620 your whatever have a bite of

01:40:11.120 this food some dude walking down

01:40:13.080 the street it's a bite of your

01:40:15.180 food you're like dude what are

01:40:16.660 you doing right yeah in other

01:40:18.320 words we have different

01:40:19.220 standards based on who we know

01:40:21.100 our circle of friends our

01:40:22.480 family whatever you feel more

01:40:24.060 comfortable it seems

01:40:26.460 hypocritical to call somebody

01:40:28.460 out when you're on video and

01:40:29.700 I'm not defending joy because I

01:40:31.220 know her that has nothing to do

01:40:33.240 with this I'm just thinking it

01:40:35.440 through it's not my first

01:40:37.400 reaction to do boo-hoo-hoo I'm

01:40:40.100 more of a rub some dirt in it

01:40:41.720 get over it get back to work sort

01:40:43.380 of guy but she has a right to say

01:40:46.040 I was bothered I was bothered at

01:40:47.840 that level and I want him

01:40:49.180 punished and I called the

01:40:50.880 prosecutor whatever the other

01:40:52.040 round say let's say she is doing

01:40:53.460 this for publicity does it help

01:40:55.300 her in any way for her possible

01:40:58.960 congressional run I see what you're

01:41:00.920 saying it puts her name more in

01:41:04.580 the public spotlight so you know in

01:41:07.140 that regard no publicity is bad

01:41:08.760 publicity today's world she's not

01:41:11.680 necessarily the the perp which

01:41:16.280 could hurt you know if I guess

01:41:18.560 there could be some publicity

01:41:19.860 that's bad publicity he did this

01:41:21.960 to her okay that may be bad for

01:41:23.900 Matt Lauer's career right he got a

01:41:26.840 lot of publicity probably not going

01:41:28.360 to be good for him but since she's

01:41:31.240 not the perp yeah I don't think it

01:41:34.300 hurts her that much even for the

01:41:35.700 people who dislike her help her maybe

01:41:38.800 a little bit yeah I think it's

01:41:41.980 somewhere between benign and helps

01:41:44.560 her a little bit yeah so I don't

01:41:46.500 see it being for those that are

01:41:47.600 saying she's just doing this for

01:41:48.640 publicity I don't see the payoff I

01:41:50.540 don't see not a huge payoff no this

01:41:52.420 is not going to be a gargantuan

01:41:53.640 payoff for if she thinks it is she's

01:41:55.440 she's mistaken here but yeah I it's

01:41:59.680 her rights her right to say and do I

01:42:01.520 get why people say she's being

01:42:02.700 hypocritical but again you don't have

01:42:05.780 a right to touch somebody just because

01:42:08.300 other people do you don't have a right

01:42:10.520 to touch somebody just because you've

01:42:11.980 touched him in that way in the past

01:42:13.980 yep that's that's just the truth it's

01:42:17.080 difficult for those of us who want

01:42:19.700 these things to be very simple and I

01:42:21.840 get the hypocrisy we talked about the

01:42:23.880 the porn stars who claim that they were

01:42:27.500 sexually assaulted at work yeah that's

01:42:30.520 a tough one Ron Jeremy and James Dean

01:42:33.100 both accused in the past couple of

01:42:35.940 months sexually assaulting women on the

01:42:38.880 job the job where they get to sexually

01:42:42.000 assault basically get paid to have sex

01:42:44.120 on camera I yeah well some of that

01:42:47.100 acting is you being sexually assaulted

01:42:49.320 that's some of the shtick you know

01:42:51.620 you're take that you know and you're

01:42:55.920 like no no he sexually assaulted me that

01:42:58.160 seems crazy I mean I'm not familiar with

01:43:01.180 the porn industry but is there like

01:43:03.040 guidelines before they start a scene okay

01:43:06.600 this is okay this is okay this is okay

01:43:08.180 this is not okay this is not okay this

01:43:09.900 is not okay and then did he cross the

01:43:11.780 line are you asking me what I'm

01:43:13.160 familiar with this do you seem like a

01:43:14.420 guy who would know I'm a worldly guy

01:43:15.940 what do I got a 70s porn mustache what

01:43:18.380 do I got an Econoline van I have parked

01:43:20.200 out front what's what slowing around

01:43:22.380 around neighborhoods there's that what

01:43:24.220 are you that creepy McCreeperson okay

01:43:26.840 here's the way I understand it Cal yeah

01:43:29.600 on camera it's acting and you're even

01:43:33.060 following a script as crazy as that seems

01:43:38.780 term they they take that stuff very

01:43:41.280 seriously there are boundaries to it I

01:43:43.260 guess and that sounds ridiculous to me

01:43:46.500 part of my natural reaction is oh geez

01:43:49.280 you're having sex on camera for money

01:43:51.540 you know what exactly sorry it's just

01:43:54.140 all of that goes out the window but no so

01:43:57.740 let's say you're a porn star and you have

01:44:03.140 sex on camera and you're obviously not

01:44:05.020 offended let's say six months later

01:44:07.800 you've given up the industry does that

01:44:09.100 give every guy in the street the right

01:44:11.160 to have sex with you no and obviously

01:44:13.760 even if you're still in the industry it

01:44:15.160 doesn't give every you know right it's

01:44:16.900 I'm just drawing the parallels even more

01:44:20.420 is the reason I said you left that but

01:44:22.080 yeah you're right if you're in the

01:44:23.000 industry no so yeah it's crazy when you

01:44:25.700 think about these things it seems

01:44:26.980 hypocritical but that's the truth if you

01:44:29.100 want to hear the entire interview it's

01:44:31.080 at theblaze.com about halfway down you'll

01:44:32.960 see the picture of joy it's joy villa

01:44:34.300 accusing former Trump campaign manager

01:44:36.520 Corey Lewandowski has nothing to do with

01:44:38.240 Trump by the way or the campaign it just

01:44:40.820 happens to do that happens to be that

01:44:42.540 their names you know because of the

01:44:44.300 campaign Doc Thompson in for Glenn Beck

01:44:46.580 Glenn Beck

01:44:50.600 Glenn Beck

01:44:59.860 Doc Thompson in for Glenn to the phone

01:45:01.640 lines we go in line 71 Sharon in

01:45:03.700 Mississippi how are you

01:45:04.860 hi Doc I'm doing great you know the lady

01:45:08.860 you're talking about she had another

01:45:10.720 option she actually had several the second

01:45:14.040 time he slapped her fanny she should

01:45:18.120 have well personally I would have

01:45:19.780 turned around and need him in the

01:45:21.200 crotch the crotch yes that is

01:45:24.720 definitely another option isn't it

01:45:26.440 Sharon yes it is that way if his brain

01:45:29.400 forgets to how to be a gentleman yes

01:45:31.380 crotch can remind you and if that's too

01:45:34.780 extreme Doc he could have slapped his

01:45:37.380 teeth out of his head yeah that's true

01:45:39.160 too but I do like that because that

01:45:41.160 does seem to be the great equalizer

01:45:42.660 doesn't it between men and women

01:45:44.220 yes and I don't think he could have

01:45:46.900 charged her with anything because he

01:45:48.680 assaulted her first that's a great

01:45:50.360 point Sharon thanks so much for holding

01:45:51.740 and joining the program today appreciate

01:45:53.140 you joining us and again remember

01:45:55.200 these are just allegations Corey Lewandowski

01:45:57.800 says it didn't happen he stands by that

01:46:00.720 he says basically I'm paraphrasing but

01:46:02.960 the truth will come out these are just

01:46:04.460 allegations but listen to the interview

01:46:06.140 yourself just go to the blaze.com and

01:46:09.100 you'll see it up there I'll see you

01:46:10.060 tomorrow morning on the blaze radio

01:46:11.680 network more about me Doc Thompson just

01:46:13.740 follow me on Twitter it's at Doc

01:46:15.980 Thompson show that's at Doc Thompson

01:46:17.720 show have a great day

01:46:19.500 Glenn back

01:46:29.880 top one

01:46:40.280 and

01:46:41.360 you

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01:46:43.000 you

The Glenn Beck Program - December 28, 2017

12⧸28⧸17 - Slow Death of Traditional Media

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