2⧸10⧸17 - Full Show
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Summary
Glenn and Stu defend Chris Cuomo for the most consecutive day a human being has ever defended Chris Cuomo. Also, Glenn reveals why he has fallen in love with Chris Cuomo and why he thinks he might be in the Hall of Fame.
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Timing is, ha, I'd say incredibly suspicious, however.
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We got a lot to get to, and let's start it off with something strange involving Chris Cuomo.
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So yesterday, Stuart defended Chris Cuomo from CNN.
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It's not, it's not, it's, it's not something I'm going to put in the family history.
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Chris Cuomo voted there with really, I was 97% of the voters, something like that.
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Um, here's a guy who, you know, it's difficult to defend many times, but I, I will attempt,
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I think a Guinness book of world record here today on the program for the most consecutive
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days a human being has ever defended Chris Cuomo.
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He, uh, Chris Cuomo was, uh, tweeted about by Donald Trump and he, uh, he, uh, he, uh,
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he said, Trump said he wouldn't even ask Richard Blumenthal about his Vietnam service, right?
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That was the, that was a controversy yesterday, but I just, I mean, look, I'm not saying that
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this happens often, but I happen to be listening to that interview.
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As I said, I think you've fallen in love with Chris.
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No, well, let me, let me just get the facts out there.
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Literally the first question of the interview was about the Vietnam service of Richard
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It was literally the first question of the interview.
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So, I mean, you know, there's a lot to criticize about Chris Cuomo.
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And I think Trump, you know, probably just joined the interview late.
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Like he probably turned it on in the middle of it and missed that question.
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But some, one of his advisors should probably tell him, wait a minute, Don, before you tweet
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that, uh, just so you know, that was the first question.
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So that was, I think a defense of Chris Cuomo, uh, yesterday.
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When is the last time you listened to Chris Cuomo?
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Uh, that's the, that's the airing of the show that I catch, but I happen to catch that
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Uh, I mean, and look, he was, he was handed a gift, right?
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Everyone's saying that Donald Trump is saying all these fake things.
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He obviously has video of him asking the question.
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Like, so all day yesterday, he was all over the media saying, Hey, Donald Trump lied about
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And he came up with this point that he thought was a great point.
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And he made it on several different, uh, uh, mediums.
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He made it on apparently Michael Smirconish's show on Sirius XM.
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It's, it's, it's, I would say, I see being called fake news as the equivalent of the N
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word for journalists, the equivalent of calling an Italian, uh, any of the ugly words that people
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It is an ugly insult and you better be right if you're going to charge a journalist with
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lying on purpose and the president was not right here and he's not been right in the
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So the, the uproar you can tell without even, right.
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I haven't even paid attention to the uproar over this, but you know, it's the comparison.
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He compares the plight of African-Americans to his as a journalist.
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And it's sad for Chris because he's going on his little victory tour on the media to
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he says this and he said the very similar thing on CNN where he said it was similar to
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Now everyone's you're comparing the plight of African-Americans to, you know, fake news
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No, he, no, everyone on earth knows what he's doing.
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What he's saying is if you say a journalist is lying to a journalist, it's a really big insult.
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And there are other, here's another example of a really big insult.
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I love the fact that he can't even bring himself to say what these words are.
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Obviously we're all at the point where we say the N word, right?
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Which is fine with me, but he can't even bring himself.
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He can't even bring himself to say one of the slurs against Italians.
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He's like, it's like one of those slurs against Italians that people come up with.
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One of them begins with a letter near the end of the alphabet.
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Now, of course, this is the media's creation, right?
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The reason why he can't say, number one, why he can't say the word that he wants to say
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Number two, it's also a media creation that he has to now come up and apologize today, or
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actually, yeah, yesterday he said, I was wrong.
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Calling a journalist fake, nothing compared to the pain of a racial slur.
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Everyone who heard this knows he was not comparing the pain of a racial slur to saying fake news
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He is saying that it was a, it's a real insult to me personally, when you say that I, that
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And it's just as offensive to me as it is to other people who are offended in other ways.
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So he's not saying that he's now been through slavery because he was accused of fake news.
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He's not saying he was hit by a fire hose at any point during the day.
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Or are we adults and can realize exactly what he was saying?
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And again, I know this is my Chris Cuomo, I'm trying to set a Chris Cuomo defense record
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here, but if this happened with someone else, Chris Cuomo would be critical of them.
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And, and just like everybody else in the media would act as if they didn't understand what
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was going on and they would all criticize some Republican politician.
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It's certainly happened to us and other talk show hosts.
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No one believes that Chris Cuomo was comparing his actual plight to that of racial slurs and
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racial animus that has happened over the past couple hundred years.
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No, he was just saying that one of the biggest, biggest criticisms, the most offensive thing
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you can say to a journalist is to say that they're making up news because that's their line
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It's like, you know, I would say it's like any, any, uh, industry could make this point.
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If you were to say that, uh, you know, um, a chef, uh, was, uh, was poisoning his PRB.
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He was made, he wasn't using fresh ingredients.
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Well, that's like saying, you know, a, a, a racial slur.
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It's just him saying that that's, what's important to me as in my job.
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Yet we all have to act as if we think he, uh, was saying this crazy thing and minimizing the
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He was saying it was important to him in a colorful way.
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The same thing that every time someone brings up a point about, um, uh, you know, the Nazis,
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You, is Jerry Seinfeld comparing his experience at a soup restaurant to the plight of the Nazis?
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No soup Nazi is just a funny way of saying the guy was tough, right?
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The guy had stringent rules that you better follow.
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Everyone knew that nobody thought that what he was saying was, wow.
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Is he saying the person at the soup restaurant is putting people into concentration camps?
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So the, for whatever reason, um, we have chosen as a society with the media leading in this
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process to all be children and to all act as if we don't understand what other people
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saying so that we can feel some weird, uh, outrage that for whatever reason we want to
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feel, I don't understand why people go through life wanting to feel outraged over things like
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And Chris Cuomo plays right into it with his stupid apology, which I guarantee somebody at
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There's probably some person who said you need to apologize over that.
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Um, I can't imagine cause he said it on multiple shows.
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He obviously thought it was a fine point to make until he had to apologize for it after
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I, you know, society gets boring if you live by these standards.
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On the other hand, I will say that he is now being bitten by his own, by his own standards
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He helped create that society in which we can't just say, okay, no, he's saying that was offensive
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to him just as being called a racial slur is as offensive to other people of ethnicities,
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Even though Chris Cuomo deserves it, even though everyone in the media deserves it,
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You know, I mean, and the reason why you do that is because it's an interesting way of phrasing it.
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It, it, it, it, if you were to say this, uh, you know, calling a journalist fake news
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is the same as calling a doorman someone who lets in people who don't, haven't filled
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You know, I would assume a doorman wants to be responsible and says, yeah, hey, well,
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you know, I only let the, or the right people in the door, but no one cares about that.
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And no, everyone would be like, why the hell is he comparing it to a, what a doorman?
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No, you use the example that everyone seems to know.
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Um, and you, and you, uh, by the way, that's my wife calling in the middle of the show.
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It's a shocking, uh, this time of the day, shocking development.
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I was doing a show at this time and I'm currently doing a show at this time.
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So I'm not nearly as passionate about this as you are.
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The same thing in two weeks, some host will say something like this.
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And Chris Cuomo will do a show where he's bashing the guy.
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That's why I like to take, this is the moment I like to talk about it because it's not one
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And because it's Chris Cuomo, I mean, this is a guy who has been voted into the Pat and
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This is not a person I liked defending, especially in consecutive days.
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It's really problematic for, for, I mean, really my life history.
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This is going to be a mark on my, on my family's history.
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It's really, there was a lot of shame associated, but you know, I think it's still the right
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It's such a stupid, and we almost every day it happens to somebody almost every day.
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And it would be nice if we could be adults and realize that's not what's happening.
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But, but again, Chris Cuomo helped create that environment.
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And now he's being punished by that environment.
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It's Pat Stowe and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
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The Ninth Circuit Court came through again with some weird ruling and have decided that this
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Basically, Trump wanted to say, well, we should be able to do this until you decide whether
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And the other side was saying, well, no, we need to stop it until we figure out whether
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They're going to stop it until they figure out whether it's okay or not.
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It is the biggest story that is actually the smallest story.
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None of this is all that important, to be perfectly honest.
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This is not a big, this is not that big of a deal.
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But I mean, you know, we just went through eight years without it, right?
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You know, if it's eight years and three months, it's not that big of a deal.
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And remember, it was only a temporary ban anyway.
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You know, it's just, we can't have a small story anymore.
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It almost seems like it's impossible for, especially when it has to do with Donald Trump,
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because this all starts with the media freaking out over something that is not that big of
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And, you know, then the Trump administration freaks out because they're freaking out.
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And it winds up leading to just nonstop craziness.
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And then Bashir Assad, the president of Syria, has kind of contributed to the hysteria involving
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this story because he weighed in and he said, he told Yahoo News yesterday that some of the
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refugees that will be coming are definitely, quote, definitely terrorists.
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Those terrorists in Syria holding the machine gun or killing people, they appear as peaceful
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You don't need a significant number to commit atrocities.
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He noted that the 9-11 attacks were pulled off by fewer than 20 terrorists out of maybe millions
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And, you know, this comes from not only refugees.
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It comes from immigrants from European nations.
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You try very hard to make sure you're not importing crime.
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Like, that is not a, that is a completely reasonable request for government to do.
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I will say that Bashir Rashad's motives may be in question.
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We're not, of course, you never know where he's coming from.
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And so, you know, you think he has a reason to do this.
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He might want us a little more involved in that civil war.
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If you're a refugee from Syria, likely what you're saying is the Assad regime is terrible.
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So, he has a reason to say that these people don't, they're not being honest.
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I mean, almost definitely we're going to miss somebody.
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We've done it in the past and we'll do it in the future.
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Well, if you think government can handle tasks like this, you've got a lot more faith in government than I do.
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However, you know, you can make this statement about everybody coming into this country.
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I mean, any time you're having anyone come visit you, theoretically, they could be a terrorist.
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You know, in Syria, and the reason why this travel ban, the reason why they picked the seven countries, by the way, outlined by the Obama administration first, as highly risky, is you're trying to improve your percentages.
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We all know that someone from, you know, Norway could come here and be terrorist.
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One of the biggest, the biggest mass shooting on the planet was Norway.
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Well, the answer, of course, is to not import anyone.
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Pat and Stu and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
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What a terrible tragedy that he gets to spend his birthday at home.
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And then it was at Chuck E. Cheese, which is, was, you know, it's where you want to spend
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You share a birthday, however, with your four-year-old daughter.
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I mean, her, plainly her, but I will say a Chuck E. Cheese stuffed crust pizza.
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That's really, you know, I think delicious pizza.
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I'm my mind goes immediately to Chuck E. Cheese.
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It's an interesting establishment, you know, in that, first of all, all the parents now
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are the age that they grew up playing video games.
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So, like, I can act like I don't like going to an arcade, but I do.
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Number two, they have a bunch of food now, which is pretty, like, the pizza was, you know,
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I'm at a point in my life, you know, where when I was ordering the pizza, they said it's
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You spent an extra four bucks and you didn't care?
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So, I mean, that's the kind of guy I am at this point in my life.
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I mean, you know, will I pay for it in retirement?
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That's what I told the guy in Chuck and Cheese.
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I can almost guarantee you'll wish you had those four dollars back.
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He looked at me strangely when I said you got to live life because I was approving the
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But, uh, there's still a lot of people that go to Chuck E. Cheese.
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I was actually, and this is a tad off topic for the world today, but it's like when I
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was a kid, the cool place I wanted to go was Chuck E. Cheese.
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And, and it's changed a little bit in that now they have this, like, you know, it's,
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it's almost sad in a way that like, you know, you have enough, uh, you know, example, enough,
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Everyone's afraid that their kid's going to be, uh, you know, uh, taken, taken.
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Um, and so they have these things now where you go in and they stamp your hand, um, with
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a number and then they stamp your kid's hands as you walk in the door.
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So you can't leave, like your kids can't leave and you can't leave unless you're, you know,
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with someone with the same number, uh, stamped on you.
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So like, oh, nice, basically there's, and do they check everybody?
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They're now, I'd say they're Nazis about it, but Chris Cuomo might make me apologize.
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They're really, they're really helpful with your kid's security.
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Cause you know, you get your kids like, you know, you turn your head for a second, you
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At least there's somewhere they might, they might, you know, they might, uh, and they can't
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And that's why it's so that, and the, and the other thing is they serve beer there.
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So you can just get hammered while your kid's running around, uh, and, uh, and then just
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drive them home, but they'll make sure you're the right parent driving them home drunk.
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My God, man, how much money did you spend at this place?
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I don't think the last time I went to see my youngest is now 16.
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So it's been a while since I've been to Chuck E.
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Uh, and I, I don't think they served beer the last time I was there.
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Well, look, the world's been a little bit more difficult.
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The world's getting a little increasingly more intense.
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So now you need a couple of beers while you're at Chuck E.
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If they start offering fireball shots, I'm going to think, this is exactly appropriate,
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but all right, there's a, there's been this story that we've, uh, had on the plate all
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week, uh, from Chesterfield, Missouri, where this 12 year old kid wore a make America great
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And one of the kids on the bus is yelling, you want to build a wall?
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And I want to argue with you, a 12 year old about whether or not the wall is appropriate
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Like this 12 year old is going to understand it.
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Anyway, he gets up and starts punching the kid in the face, starts beating.
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Here's a quick report, uh, from the local, from the local news station about it.
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The mom tells me she never expected a reaction like this when she allowed her son
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to wear a make America great again hat to school.
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As a parent, it's, it's so upsetting because my son doesn't need to be made the example
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Her son in a Donald Trump campaign hat getting into an argument with students on the bus and
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At one point, he just got so frustrated that he pushed me.
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And then he kept hitting me and backing me up to like my window of the bus.
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In fact, a Parkway District spokesperson tells us all the students involved have faced
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Fighting over politics may not seem like something middle schoolers would do.
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So if you've, if you're getting hit in the face repeatedly, I guess you just stand there
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You can't get up and push the kid away, which is all he did.
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Of course, I've already owned a school that didn't really go all that well.
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I mean, you know, you can't, that's not even a, making America great again is obviously
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But it's not something that anyone should disagree with, right?
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First of all, what are this kid's parents telling him about Donald Trump to incite that
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kind of rage in a 12-year-old kid over politics?
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Did you ever, when you were 12 years old, fight any battles over politics?
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And this goes back to, I mean, this is widespread, obviously.
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People are very panicked over Donald Trump and what he might do.
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But we talked about the George Stephanopoulos example.
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This is a guy who might, you know, be at a debate.
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He's a guy who does major interviews and his wife, who I don't remember who it was, but
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it's someone, she's kind of a celebrity too, right?
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But she was on The View saying that her 11-year-old daughter wanted to sleep in bed with them every
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night because she was so terrified that Donald Trump might get rid of abortion.
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Yeah, this was about three, I think three weeks or four weeks after the election, and she
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had been sleeping with her parents every night since election night.
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So what were George Stephanopoulos and his wife saying at the dinner table to this girl to
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I mean, she's obviously, you know, I'm sure she reads things on the internet too or whatever,
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but like, your parents, you still have some sway perhaps?
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And she, and the mother was, you know, directly in line with that.
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I mean, she told the story proud of her daughter for being so scared that abortion might go away.
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Well, she talked about the daughter, election night, screaming no abortion.
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You want to have an abortion so badly in the next four years by the time you're 15?
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That you're screaming no abortion when he's elected?
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That's, plus, that is just one of the weirdest things of the left that is, I mean, it is
00:31:19.300
They want abortion more than, I think they want clean air.
00:31:23.240
I mean, it is, at least there's more passion for it, it seems like.
00:31:26.620
I mean, there's no more hated word on the left right now, seemingly, than the word rare.
00:31:31.980
It always used to be safe, legal, and rare was the left-wing company.
00:31:42.560
And I don't know, you know, what the passion for that is.
00:31:45.880
But, I mean, this is an issue in which technology is going to make that position extinct.
00:31:54.340
But, over time, that position, pro-choice is an endangered species because of technology.
00:32:02.140
Using powerful new technology, an international team of doctors and scientists have managed
00:32:05.580
to capture amazingly clear video of a 20-year-old, or a 20-year-old baby in the womb would be
00:32:16.960
That is, I mean, I don't know how you'd get a seatbelt to figure out.
00:32:21.340
A six-foot-three thing inside of me, and I really have a backache right now.
00:32:37.200
So, this is new footage, and the footage is pretty incredible.
00:32:42.920
And the fetus can be seen fiddling with its umbilical cord, turning its head from side
00:32:48.540
The system used to capture the video was created by a group called iFind, using a grant from
00:32:53.920
around $13 million from the Wellcome Trust and Engineering and Physical Scientist Research
00:32:58.540
Council, which I know, Pat, you're a big follower of.
00:33:04.560
A bumper sticker proclaiming how much I love them.
00:33:06.660
The automated ultrasound technique compensates for the baby's movement, which can cause traditional
00:33:14.620
These kids in the womb, you're going to have pictures that make them look just as adorable
00:33:21.260
And once that starts happening, it's going to become less and less and less popular, and
00:33:26.980
you're going to be able to restrict abortions to earlier and earlier and earlier.
00:33:31.660
There was a time where it wasn't even thought of for 20 weeks.
00:33:33.900
Now, you're talking about 80% of people think abortion at 20 weeks is a bad idea.
00:33:40.820
This is not a 50-50 issue when you talk about the lines that are being fought upon when it
00:33:48.340
Almost everyone wants more restrictions than we currently have.
00:33:52.780
Europe has more restrictions than we currently have.
00:33:58.320
It's a bizarre thing that the left continues to go on television and say, I don't know,
00:34:02.900
nine seconds before birth, you can still abort kids.
00:34:05.240
They're still at that position, and they're going to hold on to it for as long as they
00:34:08.780
But what's going to defeat it, I think, is going to be technology.
00:34:12.680
It's not going to be people making arguments in the Senate.
00:34:16.580
It's going to be people who are crushed by what they think they might have done before
00:34:22.940
Yeah, because already with the ultrasounds, you show a mother who is contemplating abortion
00:34:29.540
an ultrasound, and you have to do this in Texas now.
00:34:32.900
Over 90% of them choose not to have the abortion, just based on the technology we already have.
00:34:39.220
So when that's a lot more clear and a lot more precise, showing what's inside the womb,
00:34:50.680
I mean, eventually you're going to get to a point where you're going to be able to see,
00:34:54.180
you know, you're going to be able to see the face.
00:35:12.860
I mean, we just showed the video here on the Blaze TV if you're not watching.
00:35:17.600
In the video, it looks like a baby doing things that babies do.
00:35:34.700
This is the point where we're having the discussion about.
00:35:38.340
Five months isn't enough for you to make this decision.
00:35:41.900
And every time someone says 20 weeks, you have, oh wow.
00:35:44.900
Well, I can't believe they're trying to take women's rights away.
00:35:52.480
And how you look at something like that and don't understand it.
00:35:59.660
This is something that over time, it might take a couple centuries, honestly.
00:36:03.800
The reason they've gotten as far as they have is because we ceded the battle to them.
00:36:07.460
We're like, yeah, okay, we won't talk about this anymore.
00:36:14.320
And we're just going to get angry at each other.
00:36:23.540
More of the Glenn Beck Program with Pat, Stu, and Jeffy coming up.
00:36:49.020
I mean, I guess we would have heard about the big 7-0, but I wouldn't be surprised, right?
00:37:11.180
The big deal the other day was the letter that they stopped Elizabeth Warren reading from Coretta Scott King.
00:37:20.760
About Jeff Sessions and how racist he was supposed to be.
00:37:23.500
Here was Coretta Scott King a few years ago on Jeff Sessions.
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The President Martindale, Senator Sessions, Mayor Bright, Troy State Chancellor, Jack Hawkins Jr., Dr. Dorothy Height.
00:37:40.860
She's thanking them for the opening of the Rosa Parks Library.
00:37:45.000
So what a racist that he obviously co-authored that bill and got that passed and got that through, and she's thanking him there.
00:37:55.440
And then it turns out, wow, what a racist this guy is, huh?
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Also, I am getting so sick and tired of a certain kind of story that we're hearing all the time now.
00:40:26.200
The whole community there was outraged because they had reports of an anti-Semitic note,
00:40:33.300
and a really ugly one, that was placed under a student's door late last month.
00:40:37.920
The note read, well, it started out with the K word, a really disparaging term for Jews.
00:40:45.500
You should be gassed for what you say and do on this campus.
00:40:51.900
And then a large swastika was drawn alongside the note.
00:41:04.740
The college added a number of on-duty security staff.
00:41:14.460
I mean, the campus was really almost on lockdown.
00:41:17.080
And then, police were interviewing the Jewish student involved.
00:41:26.520
And he broke down as they were interviewing him and said he had done it himself.
00:41:43.280
And the answer is because he said that he saw how the Beloit College community had come together
00:41:50.740
after a similar incident had occurred, where they had faked one of these things against a Muslim,
00:42:07.220
What kind of sickness do you have to, you know what?
00:42:10.320
I'm going to pretend that people hate Jews, and they left me a note under my door.
00:42:14.920
You get caught virtually every time, first of all.
00:42:18.900
And the other thing is, in America, in the United States of America, these things, I mean, do they occur?
00:42:27.020
Yes, I suppose so, on an incredibly rare basis.
00:42:36.480
In almost every one of these circumstances, they're fake.
00:42:41.160
Every time, and I feel like we are the only people who do this, this audience.
00:42:47.260
Every time you see a story where a waitress went to get a receipt and was written a hateful message on it with no tip.
00:43:00.960
And of course, they all knew she was a lesbian at the table for some reason.
00:43:03.460
Because that's what I want to discuss with the person bringing my food.
00:43:07.160
And no doubt, she volunteered that information.
00:43:16.660
Any food that you order, for example, a steak would be a lesbian steak.
00:43:26.340
Every time I hear that story, which again, we have lists that we've built of all these types.
00:43:37.120
Because it's just not something that occurs in society.
00:43:40.660
You know, it's overly broad to say that it doesn't occur in society.
00:43:45.420
But it's so rare that you can basically assume it's a hoax every time.
00:43:50.700
And almost every time, it's proven that it is a hoax.
00:43:54.860
The latest, in the long line, and we just talked about this a couple of weeks ago, there was
00:44:05.160
And three Donald Trump supporters got in her face and started screaming, terrorist, terrorist,
00:44:24.580
And these kinds of attacks were on the increase.
00:44:38.100
Now, you would think it would happen as much as it's reported in a nation of 330 million people
00:44:57.000
Of course there are people who don't like gay people.
00:44:59.280
Of course there are Trump supporters and Hillary Clinton supporters who are awful people that
00:45:06.580
Generally speaking, a message written on a receipt that includes usually your name and
00:45:14.940
your credit card number is not the right delivery system for your hatred.
00:45:20.320
Like, if you actually do hate people, what probably happens is you go back in the car and say,
00:45:28.660
Like, I guess that's how people would react to that.
00:45:33.180
Here, let me give the person that I am criticizing a written record next to my credit card number.
00:45:47.160
I'm going to write a note and slide it under the door.
00:45:51.520
Now, look, I know it's, again, too broad to say they never do it.
00:45:55.240
Obviously, it has happened, I'm sure, in the past.
00:46:02.080
And that is why, like, every single one of these things should be viewed immediately with
00:46:07.940
a standard of, let's call it, innocent until proven guilty.
00:46:11.780
Let's just throw that standard out as an example.
00:46:16.360
Where did you pull that one out of your rectal cavity?
00:46:22.740
But, like, maybe you approach these things with instant, reflexive skepticism.
00:46:35.560
And it's, I think it's probably the main standard that we employ.
00:46:42.100
This is a hateful country with a bunch of hateful people.
00:46:47.440
Another hateful example of people who don't like other people different than them.
00:46:52.980
I mean, Hillary Clinton even said that in one of her ads, right?
00:46:59.440
You have the right to be believed, I believe, is the way she said it.
00:47:03.900
You have the right to prove that somebody did something to you.
00:47:08.160
And I think you have the right to be taken seriously.
00:47:13.040
But, I mean, you don't have the right to be believed.
00:47:15.340
In fact, again, the innocent until proven guilty standard basically says you are not believed.
00:47:23.260
If you're accusing someone of doing something terrible, I'm not going to believe you at all unless you can prove it.
00:47:27.600
That is what we're supposed to have in the society.
00:47:30.660
And I understand Twitter doesn't have the court standard.
00:47:33.680
But isn't it smart if you're on Twitter, if you're on Facebook, and you see one of these things, shouldn't that be your instant reaction?
00:47:40.900
I mean, every person who, and look, this goes both ways.
00:47:45.980
But, I mean, you know, obviously a lot of these scandals have been because of either race or Donald Trump recently.
00:47:53.980
But it's like, when you see a story that seems too good to be true to reinforce your worldview, it's almost certainly not true.
00:48:03.220
Like, if you're like, wow, I cannot even imagine that happening.
00:48:06.500
However, wow, it backs up the thing I've been saying.
00:48:12.640
Like, you need to be able, and you should want this.
00:48:17.180
This should not be something you have to talk people into.
00:48:21.020
You want to be able to share a story on Facebook.
00:48:23.340
It should be one you think might be, I don't know, true.
00:48:26.840
And you should feel dumb if you share one that isn't true.
00:48:35.520
I mean, I don't want to get in fights with people on Facebook.
00:48:37.600
I don't want to get in fights with people on Twitter.
00:48:39.280
But it's almost like that would be almost the only way to actually stop this.
00:48:51.780
And that's how you get into these little, you know, these little circles of just hearing stories that constantly reinforce what you believe.
00:49:00.360
I'd rather have something that, because if you're not getting something wrong occasionally, if you're not tested by something, then, you know, you're going to wind up saying the wrong things and believing the wrong things.
00:49:13.200
Because you should always want to be tested and pushed.
00:49:16.600
And the left, especially, has no need for that.
00:49:22.120
There's no interest in hearing those other things and being pushed a little bit.
00:49:30.320
You know, those email things that circulate all the time, a lot of those are directed toward the right.
00:49:40.620
There was one in my inbox about, was it Tyson Chicken?
00:49:45.520
I think it was Tyson Chicken canceled Labor Day for the Muslim holiday of Eid.
00:50:09.060
It took me all of 10 seconds to Google it and find out it wasn't true.
00:50:12.780
But it had already circulated to thousands and thousands of people.
00:50:18.740
And I hit reply all and sent out that this is a fake and didn't happen and Tyson is not doing this.
00:50:30.320
Yeah, I try to at least make the effort to show whoever sent it to me and everybody else who sees it.
00:50:47.180
I would say most people don't even take that step.
00:50:52.480
And that takes literally 10 seconds in this day and age.
00:51:00.560
And you're willing to say, you know what, this one's not true.
00:51:07.380
If you actually are, I don't know, sharing stories that are real, doesn't it make it easier to convince someone else?
00:51:13.360
Because if you show at some point that occasionally your worldview isn't echoed every single time.
00:51:20.380
Like I just said, there are no, basically this does not happen in society.
00:51:25.100
But you add the disclaimer that yes, occasionally it can happen.
00:51:34.100
And we will say, well, wow, this one turned out to be real.
00:51:36.260
Most of them seem to be hoaxes, but this one turned out to be real.
00:51:40.820
When you're willing to come out and say that your side is wrong sometimes, that helps you.
00:51:48.240
And a good example of this right now is Neil Gorsuch.
00:51:51.520
Now the Gorsuch thing has been a big story over the past couple weeks.
00:51:55.480
Has Neil Gorsuch's comments where he came out and said some version of it was disheartening to have Trump tweet about this.
00:52:10.260
And Kelly Ayotte said that he was just talking generally about criticism of judges.
00:52:18.540
They were probably having a discussion about Trump's tweets.
00:52:23.960
But I do find it to be disheartening when people are criticizing the judiciary like that.
00:52:32.960
He probably kept it, you know, bland and away from Trump because he's not looking to be critical of Trump's per se.
00:52:39.760
But he wanted to make sure his principle was clear.
00:52:42.580
Is this going to help Neil Gorsuch or hurt him?
00:52:45.960
It probably will get him more votes from Democrats that he would not have been able to receive because he's now showing I will stand up against Trump if I think that he is wrong.
00:52:55.000
And that's what you should want out of a Supreme Court justice.
00:53:00.700
The ability to come out and say, you know what?
00:53:02.280
Just because this guy gave me a lifetime appointment to one of the most important roles in the world, I will still criticize him when he's wrong.
00:53:10.640
Problem is, though, Stu, honesty is such a lonely word.
00:53:18.440
I mean, you know, honesty is hardly ever heard.
00:53:43.160
More of the Glenn Beck Program with Pat Stu and Jeffy coming up in a second.
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Jake Tapper is one of the few decent journalists left on the face of the planet.
00:55:12.400
There's John Carl from ABC News and Jake Tapper from CNN.
00:55:17.460
I think those are the two most legitimate guys in all of journalism.
00:55:21.020
Yeah, there's more than that overall, but yeah, those are two we say to a lot.
00:55:24.260
Yes, and he was on Stephen Colbert, which blows me away because I didn't know Colbert still had a show, but apparently he does.
00:55:32.560
Actually, I just saw an article where he beat Fallon.
00:55:37.240
I don't know if that's in the demo or overall, but supposedly there's some kind of Colbert comeback in the ratings, and at least on one occasion.
00:55:48.380
I wasn't interested enough to actually read the story.
00:55:51.820
But you share it immediately, and it reinforced your worldview.
00:55:55.280
But the headline did say that he had to, and it didn't enforce my worldview, actually, because I thought he was off the air.
00:56:03.140
But it said something about him beating Fallon.
00:56:06.420
Anyway, Tapper was on Colbert's show last night.
00:56:08.280
Our president, the president of the United States, commander in chief, has called your network fake news, fraud, the worst, so biased, failing, unwatchable, a disgrace to the broadcasting industry, disgusting, phony reporting, unprofessional, bad television, and CNN can go to hell.
00:56:33.900
If you guys just didn't fact-check him anymore, he wouldn't be saying these things about you.
00:56:39.400
What's it like in the halls over there, knowing that the president actively doesn't like your network?
00:56:54.220
I mean, you listen to Chris Cuomo, who we talked about to start the show today.
00:56:59.340
I mean, he's like, oh, the fake news is as bad as the N-word to journalists.
00:57:06.560
I'm not comparing the two because they're quite different, but I don't think President Obama was a particular fan of mine.
00:57:19.440
My job is to tell the truth and deliver the facts and hold people accountable.
00:57:33.640
I mean, that was what people used to say about Tim Russert.
00:57:35.820
Only really after he died, but like that he was tough on both sides.
00:57:40.380
Because if you're a Trump fan, Jake Tapper is going to spend the next four years pissing you off, probably.
00:57:44.280
But he spent the last eight years pissing Obama off and Obama fans off constantly.
00:57:50.720
I mean, this guy stood up when nobody was taking on Barack Obama.
00:57:58.060
And it's not like he had some agendas against Barack Obama.
00:58:05.480
And so, you know, I'm sure a lot of people, you know, because with Republicans in control, surely he will have moments of criticism of Republicans and Trump.
00:58:14.920
And there will be a lot of people who will be like, oh, this guy was just another one of these dirtbags.
00:58:18.600
I mean, the guy spent a long time building a lengthy record showing you that he's being a journalist.
00:58:24.580
And it's tough because I think we are at that point where everyone just dismisses everybody that disagrees with him.
00:58:32.040
I know when Jake Tapper says something critical of something that I believe in or it's a story that I take a different way.
00:58:40.920
I might not always agree with him, but I always listen to him.
00:58:43.640
I want to hear when he, in particular, and there are others, but him in particular, when he has something where he is saying, well, this is actually true and what Republicans or Libertarians are saying isn't true.
00:58:57.460
I might, again, at the end, I might say, well, he's off base on this, but I think it's actually coming from a legitimate place.
00:59:03.360
And that should be cherished in our society, not criticized.
00:59:07.500
Yeah, it should definitely be cherished, especially since there's so little of it.
00:59:12.040
Hardly, hardly anybody that you say, wow, they really handle both sides about the same way.
00:59:43.980
We haven't even scratched the surface of how interesting the Donald Trump presidency is going to be.
00:59:50.220
Last night, Colbert had Jake Tapper on, and he went through this litany of the things that Donald Trump has already called his network.
00:59:58.880
Fake news, fraud, the worst, so biased, failing, unwatchable, a disgrace to the broadcasting industry.
01:00:04.160
Disgusting, phony reporting, unprofessional, bad television, and CNN can go to hell.
01:00:21.080
Sometimes they're like, oh, that doesn't really make any sense in this particular case.
01:00:23.980
So I thought it would be an interesting time, because he's not here to defend himself, to go through the insults that Donald Trump has leveled against Glenn Beck.
01:00:40.820
Or do you think these really apply, or do they not?
01:00:47.120
I mean, I think he starts off on the right foot here.
01:01:02.300
Now, look, I mean, he might not be, as he said many times, I might not be a scientist, but I am a thinker.
01:01:12.440
I'm going to have to say, no, he's smarter than a rock.
01:01:17.320
Next one, and I don't even know if this is an insult, but it's listed on the New York Times.
01:01:20.820
It says it lists of every insult Donald Trump has made against everyone.
01:01:25.800
He called, he leveled this insult against Glenn Beck, crying.
01:01:30.300
Now, this is a tough one, because, first of all, I don't know if it's actually an insult.
01:01:34.840
I mean, crying is, I guess it could be an insult, but I guess I get what he's going for.
01:01:53.420
We'll give him crying, although it's a little outdated.
01:01:56.480
I haven't heard Glenn cry for quite a long time.
01:02:11.040
But that's largely because of the Trump criticisms that Glenn has made in the past.
01:02:18.100
Like, for example, has he lost all credibility when he says Neil Gorsuch is a good nominee?
01:02:24.140
He's just lost credibility on the things that he disagrees with Donald Trump on.
01:02:31.180
Now, we were supposed to go out of business a while ago.
01:02:37.540
It was a Friday in September, specifically, and we are still on the air.
01:02:49.320
The president of the United States still talks about him.
01:03:05.340
That was a very good job by the president there.
01:03:27.280
Glenn might argue he's a lost soul, but I don't think so.
01:03:30.660
Yeah, he might, but that's not, I don't think so.
01:03:41.980
He's much more sad than a guy that successful should be.
01:03:48.260
Like, I honestly think Glenn could be president of the United States and have all of the money
01:03:52.940
Donald Trump has and have a 100% approval rating and he would still find a way to be
01:04:07.400
Because that's essentially the same as lost all credibility.
01:04:39.380
As a guy who employs us, we should probably say no on that one, but there's some evidence
01:05:03.740
Now, how about viewers and ratings are way down?
01:05:08.040
Well, that one I know is not true because I get the spreadsheet every month.
01:05:24.420
I mean, look, the Ninth Circuit Court had a three-judge panel here.
01:05:29.340
We've got our own three-judge panel right here.
01:06:03.720
If I hear both of you say, no, he's not, then my vote won't count.
01:06:21.540
I mean, I could see how you'd get there, I guess.
01:06:26.500
I mean, some people are calling him the most reasonable man in the room now.
01:06:36.180
Apparently our control room disagrees with that ruling.
01:07:12.660
But can we not air it to one specific household?
01:07:18.620
Can we make the internet go out for, you know, just a short time?
01:07:23.340
Oh, by the way, we should also mention happy birthday, Glenn.
01:07:32.500
He's like, I take, I'm off on my birthday because I'm sick.
01:07:52.500
Well, I'm not entirely sure, but I think maybe he would appreciate it.
01:08:04.040
Apparently, Rosie O'Donnell is going to be on SNL again.
01:08:14.300
The picture she posted of Steve Bannon, she looks exactly like him.
01:08:20.440
Oh, you want to talk about, although I will say, Trump loves talking about his battles
01:08:27.600
I mean, he brought it up in not only the Republican debates, but also the general.
01:08:39.440
I mean, seriously, like they look like they, because, you know, she has the hair done like,
01:08:49.260
A male sort of haircut, if we're allowed to still say that males exist.
01:08:59.060
But, I mean, really, like they look like they could be seriously family members.
01:09:15.220
I mean, yeah, if she's actually doing that, I want to see that.
01:09:18.660
Do you have her recurring that and Melissa McCarthy recurring Spicer?
01:09:26.000
They had to pick Fred Armisen, a white guy, to do Barack Obama for multiple years.
01:09:39.800
And the excuse we heard from them, and I think this literally was Saturday Night Live.
01:09:51.980
I mean, there was stuff every day about Barack Obama.
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I don't remember if it was Saturday Night Live or not, but I do remember that.
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It was the general feeling among comedians that he was too perfect and they couldn't find anything to make fun of.
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Of course, there's also the fear that they're going to be called racist or something else if they were to make fun of.
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Some sort of conservative or middle-of-the-road sort of leading comedians said that was an issue.
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Melissa McCarthy is making $20 million a movie.
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And she's showing up on Saturday nights to do Sean Spicer?
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Guy, I'll bet you, if you were to poll Americans, 75% don't know who he is.
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Easily, 75% of Americans don't know who Sean Spicer is.
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If you were to say, what is the job title of Sean Spicer?
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If you got 10% of the population, I'd be surprised.
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They might say, he's the, after the Melissa McCarthy thing, they probably know maybe a little bit about who he is.
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A very angry guy who throws the podium at people is probably how they would describe him.
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Right, because, I mean, as we know, people identified Sarah Palin through that role.
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Like, Alec Baldwin could do nothing to, you know, to really influence that.
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Because Donald Trump has a 40-year record in the public eye.
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They will be able to set him as a person through Saturday Night Live if Melissa McCarthy keeps showing up.
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They're already now hiring, it looks like, another person to help Spicer in that role.
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Press secretary and head of communications or whatever it is.
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So, is the speculation they're trying to push him out already?
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I wouldn't be surprised if they, you know, we were talking about that the other day.
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I really, I wouldn't be surprised to see them take him to the end.
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Get rid of him here soon within the next month or two.
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And then stop doing the daily press conferences.
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It is one of those things that the Trump administration, you could see the Trump administration doing.
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I'm tweeting about everything every day anyway.
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There's nothing by law that says he must do it.
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So it would make a lot of sense for them to stop doing it, really.
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Most people, it's an impossible role for every president.
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I mean, you know, every president has, you have a lackey out there justifying every mistake you've made.
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Offending really terrible immigration policies from George W. Bush.
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But again, he was forced into these places where, you know, he was justifying things that weren't true.
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Or, you know, were completely against other things that had been said.
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You know, Dana Perino, I thought, was pretty good for Bush.
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But I mean, you know, Jake, all the Jake Obama ones were terrible.
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There was a report that the White House was open to it.
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They're denying that report, and they better not be open to it because wouldn't that be a betrayal of everything he said during the campaign?
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Well, people, and the other, the reason why this is getting a little bit of steam is because one of the first things, even I, as a person who is not, was not a Trump fander in the primary, and, you know, I'm not a big supporter of the guy.
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But he, one of the first things I thought he would do was repeal the DACA illegal immigrant Obama era regulation.
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I thought it was literally the first thing he would do was step in and get rid of that because it was so crazy.
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And to come in there, that's an easy first step.
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Which is, I mean, it certainly is making people who have a hard line on that issue a little uneasy.
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I mean, the Gang of Eight is what, you know, that really hurt Marco Rubio's chances of the president of the United States.
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Hey, it's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy in for Glenn today.
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We'll tell you all about the genius way one guy's trying to get all the ladies.
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And this woman sounding off about the Affordable Care Act.
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We're going to play this because this is agonizing.
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This woman who purports to be Christian, is she supposedly conservative, too?
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She's a Republican and a Christian conservative and just can't understand this Republican position
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And what's most frustrating about this is like, again, this goes back to the theme of the day.
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This sort of widespread acceptance without questioning.
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Like, I mean, listen to the points that are made here.
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And what's frustrating about it is it's just immediately embraced by the left.
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There's one good Christian in the world who's honest and finally.
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My name is Jesse Bohan and I'm in your district.
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It's from my understanding the ACA mandate requires everybody to have insurance because
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So it's her understanding that the mandate is in place because the healthy people pull
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Now, of course, that's not how it was sold, right?
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You don't sell it to young people by saying, by the way, you're going to pay for all the
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Whether you have a problem with that or not, when you're 21, you're paying for the 75-year-olds.
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And that is absolutely what they attempted to do with Obamacare.
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It's fundamentally, it's a foundational part of it.
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How excited would you be if that's what you're told?
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Hey, you don't need this, but you're paying for people down the road.
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Every advertisement for Obamacare, which hopefully we're very close to seeing the end of them,
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is some 22-year-old pretty cool-looking guy, maybe an attractive young female.
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I used to have no insurance, and now I have insurance.
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Actually, what Obamacare does is take the money from people like you and give it to older,
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It's the only reason that, even in theory, you could argue that it would potentially work,
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But, I mean, you could at least argue, okay, what we're going to do is we're going to take
01:21:21.140
Again, they'll enter themselves into losing propositions where, because they're 22 years
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old, they will be healthy and not really need the doctor, not need to spend all this money
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And, of course, there are one out of, I don't know, 100 22-year-olds that have health problems.
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But 99 out of 100 all have losing propositions.
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So if we get enough young idiots to support this program and give them all real, terrible
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losing propositions, we can support the other part of this, which is a giant handout to other
01:22:01.740
If you like it, that's the philosophy behind it.
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And as a Christian, my whole philosophy in life is pull up the unfortunate.
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Her whole philosophy in life is to pull up the unfortunate.
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Or are you expecting the government to pull up the unfortunate?
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Yes, Christianity supports and encourages the idea that you would help out someone less
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So the philosophy in general, we can all agree, good idea as a Christian to help those less
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If your way to help the less fortunate is to steal from people and help the less fortunate,
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that's probably not something Christianity would encourage.
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There's nowhere in the Bible you're going to trip upon a sentence that says, you know
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what, if the government can mandate those people to take care of other people, an individual
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mandate with a tax fine attached does not appear in the Bible.
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Do you remember the part in the scriptures where Jesus is walking down the street with
01:23:47.520
This woman with an issue of blood, she's bleeding.
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And has been for, I think, 12 years, if I remember correctly, comes up to him and wants
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to touch his robe because she thinks that'll heal him.
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Hey, sister, have you signed up for Julius Caesar care?
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Don't be touching me because you've got to get the affordable care Caesar care mandate
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So the individual mandate, that's what it does.
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Still multiple millions of people remain uninsured.
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So the individual mandate has not cured that problem.
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It has leveled fines on people who can't, in theory, afford health insurance.
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Multiple millions of people have had to pay the government for nothing.
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That is what the individual mandate has accomplished.
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That is not something, I don't think that's in the Bible either.
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I'm going to go out and live and say, I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure it's not.
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They're costlier and they get, there's less coverage for them.
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That's the way it's been in the past and that's the way it will be again.
01:25:22.680
So the Republican response to this, as one of the responses, we don't even have a plan yet, obviously, that we know is being debated, but high-risk pools.
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So you can still cover people who are in these situations, but instead of taking over one-fifth of the economy, you find the real slice of people who need it.
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For example, when we would go back and find, when we were debating Obamacare, there were, you know, obviously tens of millions of people without insurance.
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But what you found out is a lot of them had plenty of money to buy insurance.
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They just chose not to, making over $75,000 or $100,000 a year.
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Many of them young and, you know, just felt like it was not, there was no need for insurance.
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Some of them who just lost their job for a couple months and then got back on insurance anyway were counted as uninsured.
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Here is, so the solution from Republicans, or one of the proposed solutions, is high-risk pools that would cure some of this for the real slice of people that do kind of fall between the cracks.
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She says that that will be more costly and it will be inefficient and it will get them worse care.
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And that's the way it was before and that's the way it will be in the future.
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Why couldn't you do a high-risk pool in a more efficient way?
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Maybe if someone designed it without the care or the idea that eventually we get to a single-payer program, something like that would work better.
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But that's an important part that she says there.
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Because she just says, basically, in her opinion, it hasn't worked before.
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We are effectively punishing our sickest people.
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And I want to know why not, instead of fix what's wrong with Obamacare, make companies like Aetna that pulled out and lied to their consumers about why they pulled out and said they pulled out because Obamacare was too expensive?
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I don't know who this woman is, but she's neither conservative nor Republican, would be my guess.
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Christians, I don't know where this mindset came from that Jesus wanted the government to take care of anything.
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He seemed to have real disagreements with the government.
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It's kind of a famous scene where he's being crucified.
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Jesus had an individual mandate for every individual.
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And there's no pay Caesar so that Caesar can decide who needs that money and he could squander most of it on himself and then distribute whatever is left over that he feels like to a few people in need.
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And there's plenty of places in the Bible that says the exact opposite.
01:28:33.980
So another part of this that I love is she says high risk pools.
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Look, they're going to be more costly, less efficient.
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But let's pick let's just fix the parts of Obamacare that don't work.
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Well, under this premise, wouldn't it didn't work in the past?
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You're just picking the really liberal idea and saying you can fix that one and saying the more conservative idea, which isn't really conservative, but a more conservative idea that when you can't fix, that's impossible.
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Well, they lied to their consumers and they pulled out of of all health care and they weren't really didn't do it because of cost.
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I don't have it in front of me, but we've talked about it earlier this week.
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70 percent of counties in America have only two choices for Obamacare.
01:29:27.400
So are did every health care company in America all merge at the same time and drop out because of mergers?
01:29:37.460
These people are having issues with it and they like money.
01:29:41.720
If they could go in there and enter into these areas and make more money, they would.
01:29:47.060
The issue is that they're finding it the most efficient way for them to make a profit is to stay out of them.
01:29:52.360
Now, they're making money in some places and their profits have increased because they've been able to target the right places with the right plans and they've been able to make that work.
01:30:01.640
But the reason they've been able to make it work is because a lot of them are not even involved in it.
01:30:07.400
They're moving to only specific areas where they can make it work.
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That's why most people don't have many choices.
01:30:15.920
So all of this, and this is, you know, some heroic moment for the left.
01:30:21.640
I mean, this is just, you know, I'm sure she's a really nice person and cares about this.
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She does seem to be like she really, you know, like cares about this and I'm sure her heart is into it.
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But man, I mean, these are just, these are all flawed arguments that don't make any sense.
01:30:37.480
Well, I mean, her whole philosophy in life is to pull up the unfortunate.
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But they really pulled out because of a merger.
01:30:47.000
Why don't we expand Medicaid and have everybody have insurance?
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A government run, single payer health care program.
01:31:06.440
I mean, you've heard this argument from so many liberals where it's like, oh, well, why don't we just give Medicare to everyone?
01:31:12.780
Because it's basically bankrupting us as a nation.
01:31:16.760
Because, I mean, we're, you know what, $20 trillion in debt.
01:31:24.760
And our biggest chunk of unfunded liabilities, Medicare.
01:31:34.660
And so whether you like the program or not, it's a complete disaster when it comes to our finances.
01:31:39.720
And they just want to keep, they want to expand it because that gives them control of the situation.
01:31:48.540
But everybody latches onto it and says, see, here's some conservative Christian who finally gets it.
01:31:56.280
This being passed around is more about the vilification of your average Christian than it is, and I'm not saying she's saying doing this, but like the left loves the idea that a Christian came out and agreed with their viewpoint.
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So they tried out, this is what real Christians are.
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And look, I'm sure this is what she believes or what Pat said.
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But I just think that you have to have some factual basis behind these things.
01:32:30.280
And there's no reason to come out and believe that this is going to just start magically working if you fix it.
01:32:39.260
They had complete control when they passed this.
01:32:45.560
There was no Republican voice included in this bill.
01:32:52.960
And it pains me that people can't defend Christianity better than this.
01:32:58.700
You know, they'll just accept, oh, yeah, she's got a really good argument there.
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That's what Jesus would want is for the government to pull up everybody by taxing the wealthiest and have them pull up the poorest and the sickest.
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And we don't cede that to the government because the government is the most inefficient way of getting help to people.
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Taking away people's choice to be charitable, to be good, to be loving, and forcing them, that's Satan's plan.
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Pat Stew and Jeffie for Glenn, who's out sick today.
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We've been talking about this woman in Tennessee who's at a town hall of a Republican congressperson.
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But she sure doesn't sound like a Republican or a conservative.
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She's trying to make it out as if it is, but it's not.
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The Christian theology does not state that you should pay taxes to a government and then they should distribute them as they see fit to the poor.
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I don't know how it's not slapped down more often.
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Yeah, and she kind of lays out what she thinks here.
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And as a Christian, my whole philosophy in life is pull up the unfortunate.
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This is from everyone's favorite book of the Bible, 2 Corinthians.
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Each one of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give.
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You should not give if it makes you unhappy or if you feel forced to give.
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In other words, you as an individual should be pleased to do these things on your own.
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If you feel forced to do it, you shouldn't do it.
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They actually go further than saying, well, you know what?
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If you feel forced to do it, you've got to go along with it, but you shouldn't feel good about it.
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No, you shouldn't do it is what it actually says in 2 Corinthians, which I'm bringing to my tax attorney very soon.
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And saying, I feel forced to give, the Bible says right here I shouldn't do it.
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01:38:02.920
We talked yesterday on Pat and Stu a little bit about the Trump conversation with Putin about the START situation.
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Supposedly in an hour-long conversation with Vladimir Putin, the president made it clear that he thought the START Treaty was a bad deal for the U.S.
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And during the conversation, the thing was, supposedly Putin brought it up, and then...
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And Trump didn't know what it was and asked one of his advisors while he was on the phone with Putin.
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And then he said, oh, yeah, yeah, it's a bad deal.
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As a side note from that, that is President Trump's fallback position if he doesn't understand exactly what it is.
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To be clear, he actually, I think, believes this every time.
01:39:02.540
And the reason is because he didn't negotiate it.
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Like, Donald Trump believes he's such a great negotiator that if he was in place at that time, the deal would be better.
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So, therefore, every deal that has been negotiated when he wasn't there is bad because he would have been able to do better.
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Obviously, he's had that as a businessman over the years, and it's helped him in many ways.
01:39:25.160
And surely, there are many examples of that being completely true.
01:39:29.560
You know, he doesn't seem to have a grasp on that, but, I mean, he's been in the job for four weeks.
01:39:35.280
Or at least, here's the other thing you could say.
01:39:38.480
But some advisor has got to come to him before this freaking call and say, I don't know, the big deal treaty that has been discussed for, you know, the New START treaty and, you know, this nuclear negotiation has been going on for a very long time.
01:39:55.900
This would limit it to 1,550 nuclear weapons each.
01:40:07.720
Him not having the information in front of him, being able to get it.
01:40:10.880
How is, you know, Bannon or Priebus or whoever not coming to him and saying, okay, here is a one-sheeter on what this treaty would do, where it stands now, what the history is of it.
01:40:25.720
I mean, in a way, you know, you kind of wish he was up on this, obviously, as president, but, like, how is he not being briefed by his staff on something like that?
01:40:31.900
Especially after the debate where he called it the START-UP treaty.
01:40:35.440
You would have thought that between the debate and now, somebody would have said, hey, it's not START-UP.
01:40:52.160
Although, a lot of people would say and had said that the word UP didn't work after word, but word UP became a classic hit.
01:41:10.520
But, yeah, and it's really inconceivable, and we keep using that word.
01:41:16.080
Maybe it doesn't mean what we think it means, but it's inconceivable that nobody has done that.
01:41:28.460
Now, of course, you know, these are reports, and you never know.
01:41:33.260
They're going to obviously say that didn't happen.
01:41:36.380
And I think they had three sources that were, you know, in the room or whatever saying it.
01:41:43.000
I mean, but it just comes down to, you know, he, the same thing with Flynn is going on now.
01:41:50.300
Where Flynn, his national security advisor, who has had close ties with Russia, and that was one of the big questions.
01:42:03.120
So, I mean, I would say, you know what, if I'm getting in as a Republican president, I'm going to go with zero Democrats appointed.
01:42:08.020
That's just my thing, but I understand that, you know, that's not always the thing.
01:42:11.020
So, he puts Flynn in there, and Flynn works very, you know, closely with Russia.
01:42:15.140
Apparently, he was on the phone with Russia and the ambassador before they took office.
01:42:19.960
This is sort of a big deal in diplomatic circles because there's only supposed to be one president at a time.
01:42:25.380
So, you can't put sort of conflicting messages out there.
01:42:29.000
Initially, Flynn said he had never talked to them about these specifics.
01:42:32.580
Now, he's saying, well, I can't really remember.
01:42:35.360
I can't confirm whether I did or whether I didn't.
01:42:39.460
It's not a, is it the biggest deal in the world that he, you know, made this call a couple weeks early?
01:42:45.200
But it's, you know, you should probably be telling the truth from the beginning on that, and it doesn't seem like.
01:42:55.480
And, you know, it does make you a little nervous.
01:42:57.360
But every day he's in office is probably another day where he's, you know, closer to that point where he has a grasp on all these things.
01:43:08.740
I think that virtually every nuclear treaty we sign with Russia is probably a bad one because they cheat.
01:43:16.900
They just don't do what they say they're going to.
01:43:19.780
So, we wind up unilaterally disarming while they continue to build up.
01:43:24.820
I mean, I just don't trust the Russians to do this.
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And then the new start treaty, the start up treaty, same thing.
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And so, that's how we went from 40,000 nukes to 5,000 or 7,000, whatever the number is.
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Because we're doing these treaties with them, and we're not monitoring them.
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And this happened throughout, obviously, the Cold War as well.
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I mean, when we started off building nukes, obviously, we all know when they were used initially.
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But you go to, really, we peaked in about 1965 with the amount of nuclear weapons we had, which is about 32,000.
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From then on, we just cut, and cut, and cut, and cut, and cut.
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So, we were leading that battle 32,000 to 5,000.
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We could destroy the world way more times than they could.
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But again, this is about trust between two sides, right?
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What if we would have nuked everybody, like, between 1945 and 51, before they got the nukes?
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A good policy, and very consistent with my Christian view of the world.
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However, while we continued to decline, Russia continued to keep making nuclear weapons all the way up into the late 80s.
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And they were, and they, while we were 20 years into a decline of our nuclear arsenal, they peaked at 40,000 nuclear weapons.
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And it wasn't until they ran out of money until they really started cutting back.
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We're about, you know, I don't know, less than 5,000.
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And this wants to cut it to 1,550, which is still, again, we could probably do some damage with 1,550 nuclear weapons.
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Not to mention, they're a lot more powerful than back in the day.
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We've seen these people mislead us the entire time these weapons have existed.
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They keep saying, we're not going to do any tests.
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You know, North Korea and India and Pakistan, we're not going to do any tests.
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We have no idea, really, how many each country has.
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But, I mean, would you be surprised if Russia did not have 1,550 when this thing was over and instead had 8,000?
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I don't think anybody would be surprised by that.
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You know, Vladimir Putin might say the economy, I mean, because apparently some of the sanctions we've had on them are working, which is why it's disconcerting that we might get rid of them.
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But, you know, the only thing that stops these guys are money.
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It's like, oh, you know, we don't have the cash to build them.
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And, you know, the only thing is getting in trouble, you know, with sanctions and worse if they get caught.
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But, you know, that doesn't seem to be a big concern.
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And I don't seem all that concerned about getting caught.
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And especially now that, you know, they're good friends, supposedly.
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And we're all just one big happy family right now.
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I mean, for some reason, we've lost all suspicion of them.
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And, well, the reason is seemingly Donald Trump.
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Well, he even said it, right, in his interview this week about Putin.
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That if it came from anyone else, certainly if it came from Barack Obama, people would be all up in arms over that.
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But there wasn't much outrage when it came from Donald Trump.
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Maybe not the widespread voter fraud that he kind of mentioned, which was...
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Millions, like 3 to 5 million people voting illegally.
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However, a Texas woman was just sentenced yesterday to eight years in prison and given a fine of thousands of dollars for committing voter fraud.
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Rosa Maria Ortega from Grand Prairie, which is here in the DFW, a Mexican citizen.
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She's legally here, but she's not a U.S. citizen.
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She was arrested and indicted on two counts of illegal voting after police discovered she'd applied for voter registration in Dallas County.
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She falsely indicated on the application that she was a U.S. citizen.
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And so yesterday, she was sentenced to eight years in prison for that.
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You might not want to do that if you're a legal U.S. resident or an illegal U.S. resident,
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It's funny because there really is a sensible position between saying there are 5 million illegal votes cast,
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And there's almost no instances of people being caught doing it.
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Well, first of all, there are instances of people being caught doing it.
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Second of all, the actual goal of the task is to not get caught.
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Like, the whole point of committing voter fraud is that you don't get caught.
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So those that are successful, you never know about.
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This woman, who is now 37, she came here with her mom when she was a child.
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So wouldn't she qualify as one of those dreamers that they talk about all the time?
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And here she is committing felonies in the United States of America.
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So, not all dreamers are apparently wonderful and dreamy.
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More of the Glenn Beck Program coming up in a second.
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This is the quote we were talking about earlier, just a few minutes ago, involving Donald Trump.
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When he was told that Vladimir Putin was a killer.
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I guess Trump supporters didn't have any problem with that.
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I seriously believe if it would have been anybody else, they would have.
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By Barack Obama, where he would go and say things that seemed like he was apologizing for the...
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I don't remember him ever saying anything like that.
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Now, that's also just because it's the way that Trump speaks, right?
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I mean, you could make some things out of stuff he said like this.
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Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill.
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But it doesn't necessarily mean that you're a killer.
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We don't think it's more than 80% of poor people are going to kill in their lifetime.
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They probably killed a few people, but not necessarily.
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Well, this goes back to the whole issue with the judiciary and him criticizing the judiciary.
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They're like, well, it's one thing to say with all due deference to separation of powers,
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the Citizens United case was wrong, as Barack Obama did.
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And it's quite another thing to say a so-called judge.
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He's not questioning the entire judiciary by saying that.
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He says, ah, this so-called judge, this guy's a bum.
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He doesn't actually think he's homeless and begging for food outside of Starbucks.
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I will say the one time Trump probably did cross some line is when he basically said,
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yeah, look, if we have a terrorist attack, it's the judge's fault.
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Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill.
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But, I mean, there's room for disagreement there.