2⧸13⧸18 - 'The Next Biggest Scandal'? (Michael Malice & Jonathon Dunne join Glenn)
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Summary
Former National Security Adviser Susan Rice sent a last-ditch effort to embarrass Donald Trump on her way out the door of the White House on Inauguration Day. Was this a last ditch effort to cover her tracks, or was this part of a larger effort to smear Donald Trump? Glenn and Stu discuss the possibility that Rice was part of an off-the-books smear campaign against Donald Trump.
Transcript
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So imagine for a second, last day of your job, new boss has been hired, you decide, you know, it's time to move on to greener pastures.
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You and your old boss had a pretty good working relationship.
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The two of you collaborated on several projects together.
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And, you know, you even saw your way through a few different scandals.
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Possibly, possibly the biggest potential scandal was, after learning of your boss's imminent forced departure,
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the two of you gathered those most loyal and planned to undermine the next boss.
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But on your way out the door, you had a creepy feeling of something was growing inside of you.
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Have I done enough? Did I do everything to complete the plan and cover our tracks?
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So just before you lose access to the corporate email server, you compose yourself an email.
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You know it's going to be found by the incoming regime.
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You can't access it in just a couple of hours, so there's no reason to write this email.
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It's a last-dish effort at undermining the new boss.
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But more importantly, it applies that you did nothing wrong.
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You hit send, you get up, you walk out the door for the very last time.
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This is what, in a nutshell, appears to be what Susan Rice, the former National Security Advisor,
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did just before she walked out of the White House on Inauguration Day.
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Yesterday, Senators Grassley and Graham sent a letter to Susan Rice asking her to explain,
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quote, an unusual email, end quote, that they found was sent by her on her last day of work.
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The email was sent to herself via the NSC's official server on January 20th,
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but it was explaining a meeting that took place on January 5th.
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The email describes an interaction between Obama, law enforcement, and the intelligence community,
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and how the outgoing administration was considering withholding information
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regarding the Russia investigation from the incoming Trump team.
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Forced in, not once, but twice, were comments that her former boss allegedly made
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that he stressed the need to do this absolutely by the book
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and that he was absolutely, definitively, and definitely, absolutely, positively
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not trying to insert himself into law enforcement activities.
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First of all, why did Obama feel the need to tell the FBI to, quote,
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Aren't the FBI's investigations always done by the book?
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Why did Rice write that Obama made it clear that he's not trying to influence the investigation?
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Could it possibly be that Obama, Rice, and the entire outgoing administration
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were engaging in an off-the-books operation to smear Donald Trump?
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Well, here's something that the rest of the press, including the New York Times, will not tell you.
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We're just going to bring these two pieces together.
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We found a story that ran March 1st in the New York Times.
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Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russia Election Hacking.
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This was a pretty damning article that was released back in March,
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and it implied that the Trump team was in danger of scuttling valuable information
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that would prove Russia interfered in the election.
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The article goes on to explain that the Obama administration proceeded to launch an operation
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of leaks to Congress, leaks to other agencies, leaks all over the place.
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But that story ran in the New York Times almost a year ago.
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I'm sure the reporters have, you know, better things to do than read old news
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Unfortunately for them, we have plenty of time on our hands.
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If you reread the article, the vast majority of information that is in the Times claims
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that Obama was leaking, and it sounds like it came from the same place,
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Was the former president and his staff engaging in a leak operation of opposition research
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Was this email from Susan Rice a last-ditch effort at covering their tracks?
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If just one of these questions is yes, we'll forget Watergate.
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This will indeed be the biggest scandal in our nation's history.
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So, Stu, I'm trying to find a better answer than she's covering tracks.
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Can you come up, have you heard anyone come up with a legitimate reason
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No, though I think that's always a risky way of looking at a story.
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I'm trying to, I have not been able to find an innocent reason.
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I mean, I think you read that email, it just reads as a terrible attempt to cover your ass
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Do you happen to have the whole, let me see if I have it.
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But I mean, I think we have to, as we do here, as we've all engaged in this many times over
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Do you think she might have written this because of a YouTube video?
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Yes, I do think a YouTube video must have been involved.
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I mean, look, she's not a trustworthy source in the first place.
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But she was someone that has been criticized correctly by the right for her role in that
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particular cover up in the Benghazi thing, blaming it on a video.
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For example, the unmasking situation, which was she got a lot of heat from conservative
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And then the Trump administration said, no, she didn't do it.
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You want to look at this and take all the information in.
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But this is a first sign of something that looks particularly bad.
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On January 5th, following a briefing by the IC leadership on Russia hacking during the
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2016 presidential election, President Obama had a brief follow on conversation with FBI
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Director Jim Comey and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval.
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President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every
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aspect of this issue is handled by the intelligent and law enforcement communities, quote, by the
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The president stressed that he is not asking about initiating or instructing anything from
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He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the
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Wow, that's an incredible first paragraph, isn't it?
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From a national security perspective, however, President Obama says he wanted to be sure that
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as we engage with the upcoming team, incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there
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is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.
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President asked Comey to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that it should
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affect how we share classified information with the incoming team.
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Why did she write this memo about a meeting that happened on January 5th, two weeks later?
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She writes it as she's leaving the office, her office.
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She leaves it on her servers, which she will no longer have access to.
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I mean, this is the worst cover-up I've ever seen, if it is a cover-up.
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It's like you didn't show up for work one week, and then you decided to just write in
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and say, by the way, I have to remind myself that I didn't clock in to work for the past
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three days, but I've got to make sure when I go back in, I tell my supervisors that there
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I mean, you're not reminding yourself of anything.
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You're obviously leaving this as a breadcrumb trail for somebody.
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Right, and it seems to be specifically designed to make sure Obama is clear, right?
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Like Obama, he was the one saying it was by the book.
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So if someone, let's just say, let's just say, let's just say a Susan Rice or someone
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else is seen to be doing something that doesn't look so great.
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On record, you have Barack Obama with contemporaneous notes, and we know how powerful.
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Um, it would, it would have, there would be record of, he was the one that wanted to
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How did we do that when he was so darn clear with us?
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Again, if we go back to the New York Times a year ago, what that story was saying was that,
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um, uh, Obama and the Obama administration were leaking information, specifically leaking
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information that members of the Trump campaign were meeting over in Russia.
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Well, there is no other source that we know of other than the Steele dossier for that one
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Now, when this came out in, in March of last year, nobody tied this together.
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But now, when we see that, that she is saying, uh, you know, we have to do everything by the
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book and we have to make sure that we are careful on which information we share.
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The New York Times said that the Obama administration was sharing with people information, uh, uh, about
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So, was the administration using the Steele dossier to leak to the press stories that could
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I think the answer to that one is probably yes, in seeing that the New York Times verified
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They were leaking the Steele dossier because that is the only place where you find that
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And, and there's different parts of that that we've discussed in that, you know, you might
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say, if you, let's say, don't like Donald Trump, you might say, okay, look, the Steele
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dossier, we've seen parts of that look, that look really shady, but Steele was a respected,
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And the fact that they would look into something that he suggested they look into is not actually
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The problem with it is when it's something that's funded by the DNC and it's something
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that comes in, uh, as opposition research that you're weaponizing, uh, the intelligence
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Because if you're following up those things, imagine how that could be abused and may have
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But I mean, can you imagine setting a precedent where it's okay that a Democrat could, or
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a Republican could, uh, could fund research that, that goes to the sitting president.
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And then they use that BS to go open up investigations to catch God knows what, even if it has nothing
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to do with the initial tip, that's a really bad precedent to set.
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It's, it is, it feels very banana Republic, right?
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Oh, it's look, I've never understood why, um, Ford pardoned Nixon because it makes everybody
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Cause this is a question I asked Mike Lee, Mike, why are you not pushing for jail time
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for presidents if they, if they really violate the law?
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And he said, it's a really, it's a scary balance, Glenn.
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And I didn't understand this at first until he really sat down with me, said, here's the
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If you set that precedent, then what will happen is the other side will then try to do it to
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your guy and then you fall into the banana Republic.
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You, you cannot use, um, you'll have to be very, very careful that we don't send people
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Otherwise it's going to look like every other place that you have a challenger.
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I'm going to investigate him because I've heard X, Y, and Z.
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You get rid of your challengers and you get rid of your ex-presidents.
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And he said, we've, we've got to be very careful on that.
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So I agree with him that, that, that we, there are people that will weaponize our government.
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It could be is the government had been weaponized by the Obama administration.
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The only thing I can think of with the Susan Rice memo that would clear her at this
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moment, again, we don't have to think of every reason.
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Maybe there's something we're not thinking of, but if she was the type of person, and
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this is something that they've talked about with Comey, that he was that very intent on
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If she sent herself that type of email every day that just outlined all of the meetings
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that she had, it might not be out of the, out of the, but she didn't do this on the
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She did this the last day she was in office, two weeks, two weeks after the meeting.
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The question though, is, does she do this from time to time routinely?
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Is this a routine thing where she's constantly like for the record, emailing herself notes
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I don't know that it clears her, but it would make it, you know, that might be a defense,
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So, uh, you know, that's still down the road, but that's the only thing I could even come
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And again, two weeks after the fact still doesn't explain it.
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If you found out, I mean, at first you thought it was a problem and then you found out that
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It's Glenn Beck and Stu, our executive producer.
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There's terrible news coming out of the Washington Post.
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Mohammed Kweiss, he fled his home in the United States in 2015
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and headed to Islamic State territory in Syria and Iraq.
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He was curious about life in the group's self-declared caliphate.
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Quote, I would see people from all around the world leaving their countries
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Because the sad part is not an American going over and wanting to kill a bunch of people
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He was tasked with running errands, such as grocery shopping.
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Taking out the trash at this Islamic State House.
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He eventually became, quote, frustrated with waiting, end quote, for military training,
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according to FBI special agent who testified during the trial.
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The headline, Glenn, is devastating for all of us.
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A study has found that Americans who join ISIS are disappointed by the experience.
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If you can't trust the excitement of a nice little ISIS vacay.
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I wonder if we should put them down out of their misery.
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They were, you know, they were disappointed in that.
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I say we give them the chance to face our military.
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Because they wanted military training, and that's part of the military.
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We're going to put you down on the ground someplace, and we'll give you a gun.
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Glenn, many of the Americans who traveled to Syria and Iraq to join ISIS wound up coming
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We have yet found another racist in the Trump administration.
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If I may paraphrase, he said, I think we have to take all of these N words, round them
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Which is weird, because dogs can only hear that whistle, but dogs are so racist.
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We learned yesterday that they don't believe in equality.
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But this is, so he said, the office of sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage
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And luckily, Brian Shatz, a U.S. senator, was able to explain what that means.
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Do you know anyone who says Anglo-American heritage in a sentence?
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What could possibly be the purpose of saying that, other than to pit Americans against each
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For the chief law enforcement officer to use a dog whistle like that is appalling.
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People who are racist want you to understand the context of that and try to understand
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what Jeff Sessions, who by all measures is clearly a racist, hears their excuse.
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And we should point out, at this point, the word context is a dog whistle.
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Anyone who's trying to add context to an accusation of racism automatically is a racist.
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So Charles C.W. Cook, who I'm just going to throw this out here, is British.
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That's something you might want to know for this.
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This is moronic and not just a little bit moronic.
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This is so moronic, so dim, so utterly and incandescently stupid that I frankly worry
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I have been reading through these reactions for a few hours now, and I can still scarcely
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imagine the rank historical and legal illiteracy that it takes to hear Anglo-American in such
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a context and to assume it's a racial reference.
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Sessions could not have been more clear if he had tried.
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His subject was the historic office that most of his audience filled.
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So he's talking to sheriffs about sheriffs, but more importantly about the history.
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His point, literally, was that, quote, since our founding, the independently elected sheriff
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has played a, quote, critical role within a law enforcement system that developed in
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Sheriff derives from a combination of the word shire and the word reeve.
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In order to make that point at the talk, he said the office of the sheriff is a critical
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part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.
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It's hard to overstate just how commonly used this phrase is in this context.
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Within the law, Anglo-American does not mean white.
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It is used, shock, to refer to those institutions, ideals, structures, and customs that are common
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to England and the United States, that is, to the common legal heritage the two countries
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There is an identifiable Anglo-American conception of due process, which is distinct from, say,
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That someone also used the word Anglo to mean white has no bearing on this.
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You know who has read a history book or at least read a legal book?
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President Barack Obama, who, like Jeff Sessions, but unlike Senator Schatz, is a lawyer.
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He says, the world is watching what we do today in America.
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They will know what we do here today, and they will treat all of us accordingly in the
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future, our soldiers, our diplomats, our journalists, anybody who travels beyond these borders.
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I sincerely hope that we can protect what has been called the Great Writ, a writ that has
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been in place in the Anglo-American legal system for over 700 years.
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And he goes on and on and on with more explanation from Barack Obama.
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Do not go here because this is an insult to the average dolt.
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If you're going to say the average dolt, you know, doesn't know this, but senators should,
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Well, you know, you don't commonly, if you're not a lawyer and you have no legal background,
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you don't commonly hear the word Anglo-American tossed around all that often these days.
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However, if you're a U.S. Senator and you're about to make this the basis of your big racial
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attack against the administration, do you not take a moment to ask a lawyer to look it
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up to see if Barack Obama maybe uttered it multiple times?
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Do you do any research, any thought put into it before you just start typing?
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And again, we, you know why he is not the only person, the only politician who tweets
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things that they should think about before they tweet them.
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I'm not saying, but it's, it is amazing that you would not take that step.
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But do you know why people tweet things that are like this?
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If you agree with that politician, whatever they say is absolutely right.
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But I suppose, but when you're the last president of your party, the last president of your
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party said he wanted to create a balanced process that quote, adheres to the rule of
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law, habeas corpus and basic principles of Anglo-American legal, the Anglo-American legal system, but doing
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it in a way that doesn't result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up.
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And quote, you think that with a guy who is a supposedly this constitutional genius who
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was just an office, you think maybe you look into it for a second, for a second.
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I'm not, I'm not saying you have to understand.
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Just take a moment to think about what you're doing because I know it's so easy to call
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Why should senators be any different than the rest of us?
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And we did this with the Susan Rice thing just a few moments ago.
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Susan Rice, look, that email looks terrible to me, but I want to take time and make sure
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I want to hear it because I don't want to just go run out and accuse people of things
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Back in the old days when we used to take 14 seconds before we accused someone of being
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So, Stu, have you been following the Olympics from P.F. Chang's?
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I thought it was further away than P.F. Chang's.
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They were running the highlights of the Olympics live from P.F. Chang's.
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Somebody thought that was going to be funny, I think.
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Which events are being held near the Great Wall of Chocolate?
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Because I maintain that is the greatest name for a dessert in history.
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I'm trying to get a seat there at the Olympics at P.F. Chang's for tomorrow night.
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Everybody says it's such a big deal to travel over.
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So their excuse for this was pretty interesting, too.
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They said that someone had made a parody for private use, and they mistakenly used that graphic.
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Yeah, they made it for something for the sports guy as a joke.
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And so on Monday morning, they come in to do the update, and they see the Olympic, you know, they see the Olympic, you know, the logo.
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And nobody notices that it doesn't actually say the city that it's held in in North Korea.
00:34:08.760
Which I guess is, I mean, the insinuation there is that that's racist or something, because he just put it in.
00:34:20.060
Don't try to add context, because then you also will be a racist.
00:34:22.820
But that was, that's the belief, is that, you know, someone, oh, they just did a, you know, the, as close as they could get to being familiar with Asian culture was P.F. Chang's.
00:34:33.640
So they threw that in there, because they thought it would be funny.
00:34:36.020
Because it sounds, see, the word kind of sounds like P.F. Chang's.
00:34:39.040
Yeah, that's what I was going for, was just that it sounds a little like P.F. Chang's, except it's a little easier to say.
00:34:48.040
But usually, when, this is a rule, this is a general rule, and I don't know that it's hard and fast, but when you take a foreign-sounding word and you simplify it to a nearby restaurant that serves similar food, you usually get in trouble.
00:35:09.000
Usually, you shouldn't, you shouldn't go that way, because people take that as the only thing you care about from that culture is the food or something.
00:35:20.220
This is why I, this is why I like living my life.
00:35:22.480
Really, when I think of, when I think of, when I think of, when I think of, of Korea, I think of two things.
00:35:42.480
Well, because I don't eat meat, so I don't, Korean barbecue is going to be largely that made of meat.
00:35:49.200
I will say that they have at, now I'm talking about, this is authentic, and this might be a little bit weird for the average person to understand, because if you're not in the world of Korean barbecue, you may not understand this.
00:35:59.200
But I went to Cheesecake Factory the other day, and Cheesecake Factory now has Korean cauliflower or something.
00:36:06.800
Fried, I don't know what it is, but it's freaking really good.
00:36:13.320
No, it's, it's like cauliflower, and I think they fry it, and they put some sort of Korean seasoning on it.
00:36:21.880
And, and Cheesecake Factory is authentic Korean.
00:36:24.440
If you don't know that, a lot of people think, oh, cheesecake doesn't sound.
00:36:33.620
I'll take you to an authentic right down the street.
00:36:36.000
Because here in Dallas, we have a whole Korean section of town, and the restaurants are unbelievable.
00:36:43.020
And I like ethnic food from different countries of the world.
00:36:46.400
But what I want is the American version of that food.
00:36:51.700
I want you to take your authentic food, and I want you to hide it away from me.
00:36:56.420
Because I go to, like, I've been to authentic Mexican restaurants.
00:37:00.720
But then I go there, and I'm like, why am I not at Taco Bell again?
00:37:07.800
I want to go to Uncle Julio's or around the border.
00:37:20.440
This is why it was developed here, and it's become popular.
00:37:23.380
Like, you know, I'm sure if I went to Italy, the food would be good.
00:37:29.520
I went to a Chinese restaurant, and I went with a friend who has a Chinese mother-in-law.
00:37:43.500
And so she comes over to America, and they walk into...
00:37:56.280
He walks in, and they're driving across the country.
00:38:03.480
He said she stopped at the door and was like, good God, what is this?
00:38:08.800
And she looked behind the counter, and she said, there are no Chinese people here.
00:38:20.040
If you go into the real, like, the real, you know, hole in the walls in Mexico, what you
00:38:24.620
will find there are the nacho fries that they serve at Taco Bell.
00:39:05.220
Don't look now, but the Senate has begun an open-ended debate.
00:39:10.960
Now, I thought that's what the Senate was supposed to do, but apparently this is some sort of special
00:39:17.180
Can you imagine if the company you work for or the business you run operated like Congress,
00:39:21.840
can you even imagine the disaster, how fast you'd be out of business?
00:39:25.860
Our founders designed a great form of government, but over time, it's morphed into this colossal
00:39:34.060
The latest example, Congress's inability to get anything done on immigration, specifically.
00:39:42.200
The mainstream media story that you've been getting for months is this very simple narrative.
00:39:47.040
President Trump hates immigrants, so he ended the DACA program so he can start personally
00:39:54.980
What this simple narrative forgets to include is that DACA exists only because President Obama
00:40:01.660
spoke the program into existence, completely outside of Congress and outside of the constitutional
00:40:11.140
So DACA is the urgent problem now before Congress because it's a mess that was created by Obama.
00:40:17.200
Then Trump decided to end it because many of the states were suing the federal government.
00:40:24.180
And the deadline when DACA permits will start expiring is now just three weeks away.
00:40:29.360
But DACA was designed by President Obama to expire itself.
00:40:38.980
And every two years prior to Trump, you had to renew.
00:40:45.060
Congress has saved this issue to the very last minute.
00:40:52.960
Their method for dealing with issues at hand is a weird Hail Mary.
00:40:58.740
Yesterday, the Senate began to do what they call an open-ended debate to figure out what
00:41:05.700
Whoever gets the 60 wins, said Mitch McConnell, as if this debate thing is some form of a fun
00:41:14.740
board game that they found in the Senate closet and dusted it off just to solve immigration.
00:41:21.360
Let's take a look at the history of the DREAM Act just for a second.
00:41:27.900
It was brought up in front of Congress several times.
00:41:32.340
Not with the Republicans, not with the Democrats.
00:41:36.420
It had been 17 years without meaningful immigration legislation.
00:41:45.480
Immigration is a giant stadium beach ball that gets smacked around the stands of Congress
00:41:52.140
year after year, mainly, mainly, but not entirely limited to election seasons.
00:41:58.940
And now, all of a sudden, the clock is running out.
00:42:05.420
The point of this open debate format is to try to build a bill from scratch on the Senate
00:42:17.220
I mean, I guess that's the way they think the universe was formed.
00:42:20.100
Utter chaos until the right particles just suddenly collided and out pops good old Mother Earth.
00:42:29.760
Regular Americans are held to a much higher standard of competence in our jobs.
00:42:35.080
If only we could find a way to hold our representatives in Washington to that same high standard.
00:42:54.820
So there's a great article at glennbeck.com written by a friend of ours and a friend of
00:42:59.320
the program, Jonathan Dunn, who is Irish, lives in Ireland, tried to come over here,
00:43:05.100
had a job, and the government wouldn't allow him to come in.
00:43:09.320
And we wanted to get his take, and I'm going to take him through this article because it's
00:43:13.700
really well done, and you can find it at glennbeck.com.
00:43:20.160
So let's take this piece by piece, if you don't mind.
00:43:26.500
Because you said, I've been listening to the debate, and there's so many things that
00:43:30.720
Um, and, uh, and, and international law is one of them.
00:43:37.000
So one of the things you do that I've always liked is you, you use the language of the left
00:43:44.340
Our democratic friends love the United Nations.
00:43:46.940
They, they will promote the United Nations law.
00:43:49.320
They will promote international law, usually to fit their narrative to say America sucks.
00:43:55.680
Let's actually use international law and international norms.
00:44:03.980
What that means is a country has a right to control what happens in its borders.
00:44:08.100
The people have a right to elect people to represent them and to fulfill their laws.
00:44:13.100
Why that's relevant to the amnesty debate is this.
00:44:18.000
As much as I love America, as much as I have done in my eyes to help America, to help share
00:44:23.800
your foundational principles, I don't have that right.
00:44:27.020
The only people who have a right to be in America is Americans.
00:44:30.700
And that is something that we need to break down and explain to people.
00:44:39.520
Shouldn't we show compassion to people who are here illegally?
00:44:44.060
America has always been a compassionate nation.
00:44:48.760
You look at the reports that are done year after year when it looks to America's giving
00:44:53.220
their own time, America giving their own money.
00:44:56.600
You look at the amount of people who have some semblance of freedom right now in the
00:45:01.620
You look at the millions who would have been enslaved behind the Iron Curtain if it wasn't
00:45:05.580
You look at people like me who, if it wasn't for America, there's a chance we wouldn't be
00:45:13.460
But also the American innovation, the idea of America, which I focus on, that idea where
00:45:18.780
you have the right to keep the fruits of your own labor, to innovate.
00:45:23.360
If you think today is 2018, you won't recognize the birth of Christ.
00:45:28.020
Don't let me pollute you, whether it's food, whether it's transportation, whether it's
00:45:31.320
medicine, whether it's standard of living, whether it's communication, whether it's
00:45:34.240
agriculture, whether it's food storage, whether it's tourism.
00:45:37.000
Take any aspect of your life and look at how it advanced from 0 AD to 1800 AD.
00:45:42.660
And then look at it from 1800 AD in the last to 2018.
00:45:47.540
Why is it in that 218 years we have advanced a million times, 10 million times more than
00:45:55.720
Because of the idea of America where you can innovate, where you can dream, where you can
00:46:01.600
make a better future and you can keep the fruits of your labor.
00:46:06.820
That is what has made the world a better place.
00:46:10.700
The question isn't, should America be compassionate?
00:46:13.980
It's who you should be compassionate to, to people who did things the right way or people
00:46:19.240
who did things the wrong way through their fault or through not their own fault.
00:46:23.300
It's who you reward and who you show that compassion to.
00:46:26.560
But most Americans will say that we need comprehensive immigration reform.
00:46:33.660
I'm sorry to tell you that is, it's nothing but a flat out lie, Glenn.
00:46:37.020
You have every law on the books that you need right now.
00:46:40.140
What you haven't got is the political will to enforce them.
00:46:43.840
You have every law, whether you enter America as a tourist, which I did last year, I had 90
00:46:50.040
Whether it was a guest worker program, you go over there as a student, you know, for a
00:46:53.220
night, for three months and during the summer, whether it's a casual worker, whether
00:46:57.140
it's a full-time worker or whether you're going through actually immigration process, you have
00:47:00.900
a system of government that has a visa for a certain period of time.
00:47:04.180
All the laws are in the books there that says you have that visa, there's a process there.
00:47:08.040
You may not like the process because it is very time consuming, it is very expensive,
00:47:13.260
And you know, when you go through that process, if you overstay your visa and your visa expires,
00:47:20.840
But also there's laws in the books that can stop you immigrate going to America again for
00:47:27.780
What you haven't got is the political will to enforce them, which just take a step back
00:47:32.020
for a minute, which is, I always find this hilariously funny.
00:47:34.580
What politicians in DC are saying right now is we have all these laws in the books, but
00:47:39.680
What we're going to do is what we need to do is you need to give us the power to write
00:47:43.460
new laws and we promise we'll follow these laws because we promise, we promise.
00:47:48.120
But what happens if someone down the road goes, you know what?
00:47:50.980
But also as someone, as an outsider, I get frustrated because you're talking about rewarding
00:47:56.040
people who are not Americans because you don't have the political will to enforce them.
00:47:59.940
Can you imagine the outrage if there was a load of people, if the Tea Party actually got
00:48:03.900
a load of power in DC and had the White House and said, you know what?
00:48:11.880
Can you imagine the reaction to the mainstream media and the politicians?
00:48:15.280
But yet for a non-American, it's, oh, well, they're dreamers.
00:48:21.300
He's a blogger and a friend of the program from Ireland who has wanted to be an American
00:48:37.840
I got very fortunate to fly over to Florida to my aunt in Clearwater.
00:48:45.100
We can never find the exact date because you don't keep those type of details anymore.
00:48:57.820
So for someone like me, I fell in love 25 years ago.
00:49:00.860
I fell in love with the country when I went over there.
00:49:03.320
You know, if you take an impressionable young boy from Ireland who had never really been
00:49:07.100
outside the country, you put him in America with warm weather, beautiful women, beautiful
00:49:11.060
accents, more food and different sports, different culture.
00:49:16.080
And then with the advancement of the Internet, I fell in love with the country, the idea of
00:49:22.080
So ever since I've been a teenager, my only dream in life is to be an American.
00:49:29.200
So there's two ways that people like me get there.
00:49:31.280
One is through the visa lottery program, which a lot of people have heard.
00:49:34.520
It's you put in your name, you pay a fee and you hope your number gets called.
00:49:43.780
So what I always wanted to do was I do a lot of work for free.
00:49:47.680
I've done I do a show on your network, which I'm so thankful to still have.
00:49:52.920
All I ever wanted was someone to come along and go, you know what?
00:50:02.580
You offered me a job with the thanks to Dom and Jonathan pushing me behind the scenes.
00:50:06.800
I had the chance to live in the greatest country in the world, greatest state in the union and work for one of my personal heroes.
00:50:15.420
We met with the lawyers, which you at Dom and all helped.
00:50:20.820
I don't have a college degree, so I don't meet the college requirements.
00:50:24.180
And I don't have the work experience because what I know I could do the job you offered.
00:50:37.020
I stay in a country that I don't have any emotional connection to.
00:50:40.400
I have no very much career opportunities because what I say isn't exactly popular.
00:50:48.180
Option two is I go against everything I have ever stood for, every principle I have ever spoken against.
00:50:57.400
Look at all the stuff I've done for you for free.
00:51:05.920
But I could fall for that line and go illegally.
00:51:08.240
Or I could go against every tenant of my faith and say, you know what?
00:51:11.640
Just marry some girl for a visa and just get over there.
00:51:17.860
My principles are my principles, not because they're easy.
00:51:22.380
And you cannot go against your principles, even when it screws you personally.
00:51:25.460
So my choice is I've got to accept this fact and accept my dream is dead.
00:51:30.600
However, what I would ask you in that story is how many other people who are the millions doing things the right way, how many other of those would say, I'm going to follow my principles?
00:51:42.600
You're making it easier for people to break the law.
00:51:47.500
Jonathan, I don't know if the audience could hear it.
00:51:53.440
The crack in your voice as you talked about things, and I can see it on your face now.
00:52:01.060
Let me just assure you that your dream is not dead.
00:52:05.120
I don't know how things work out, but we both have real faith in God.
00:52:10.480
And things always work out the way he wants them to, and in his time.
00:52:20.800
I am such a supporter of yours, and I want more people like you in our country.
00:52:30.460
That means people who would give their right arm to have what we'd so easily dismiss.
00:52:38.280
And all of this thing, the thing that saddens me the most about this debate is that everything
00:52:45.840
Because for me, America is a country, it is an idea.
00:52:49.520
And I've always believed, and people have always mocked me saying,
00:52:58.880
What America do you want to live in going forward?
00:53:01.080
The question right now is not about anything about illegals or legal immigrants.
00:53:04.820
The question is about what America do you want to live in?
00:53:06.960
I've always believed the narrative that if America was the only country, it was exceptional
00:53:11.440
in the belief that if you did things the right way, if you worked hard and you played by the
00:53:15.660
rules, there was a better chance and a better opportunity that you would be more successful
00:53:22.620
What country does the American people want to hand off to their kids and their grandkids?
00:53:26.040
Do you want to reward hard work and that ideal?
00:53:29.680
Or do you want to just go, well, you know what?
00:53:32.100
There's political will to reward those who didn't follow the law.
00:53:36.300
This is the key essence to what you want to be, what country you want to be, and what country
00:53:42.880
Because I will say this, there is no other country.
00:53:45.960
The most distraught thing I can say to you is, I have no other dream.
00:54:04.060
There's only one country that I say, America is great because Americans are good.
00:54:11.020
And you can still be that shining city on a hill for people like me to go, I want to be
00:54:21.700
You will find Jonathan at freedomsdisciple.com, speaking to us from his home in Ireland.
00:54:30.980
If anybody has any ideas of how he can legally emigrate to America, please, please let us know
00:54:40.920
He's got such a heart and he loves the principles of America and would be a very proud American,
00:55:02.660
I want to tell you about SimpliSafe, home security company that I've worked with since they had
00:55:09.640
I mean, you know, you just can't start businesses like you can in America or used to be able
00:55:17.500
Bill Gates says he couldn't start Microsoft today with the new laws and everything that
00:55:23.440
But we are about just having a dream and being able to do it.
00:55:30.740
And I don't know how many Americans they employ.
00:55:33.360
They just released a brand new home security system.
00:55:36.720
They've rebuilt it and completely redesigned it.
00:55:39.120
They've added new safeguards to protect against power outages and down Wi-Fi and cut landlines.
00:55:44.740
They've done everything they could to destroy it and stop it from working.
00:55:51.240
That's when they knew that it was right for you.
00:55:53.220
The all new SimpliSafe, redesigned to be practically invisible with very powerful sensors that are
00:56:00.500
But when the alarm goes off and the cameras go off, oh, the perpetrator will notice them.
00:56:06.020
This is what's really remarkable is this brand new high-tech system, this smart system.
00:56:11.720
You still get it for the same fair and honest price.
00:56:19.260
So it's smaller, faster, stronger than anything they've built before.
00:56:24.180
I want you to check this out right now at SimpliSafeBeck.com.
00:56:46.400
There's got to be somebody in this audience that knows how to help Jonathan.
00:56:49.280
We've, we have, we have tried and we don't know how to get him to come in and do it the
00:56:59.060
And it's just, it's killing him and it kills us every time we talk to him.
00:57:02.560
You know, the media and the left will tell you that conservatives don't want immigrants
00:57:08.220
And it's, I can tell you right now, there's not one person in this audience that wants
00:57:15.060
Everybody, every conservative hearing a guy like that, speaking about America like that
00:57:23.100
There are people from every country on earth that are like Jonathan.
00:57:29.300
And I think we have to be very careful as conservatives when we talk about illegal immigration to make
00:57:34.860
You know, the, some people in, in, in the, uh, in the immigration hawk movement are very
00:57:41.500
much against legal immigration as well and reducing legal immigration.
00:57:46.320
The answer is to make it easier for people like Jonathan Dunn to get here.
00:57:52.560
It's, it's, it's about a rule of law, which we need and we don't currently have.
00:57:59.340
And we've seen some good things that have been proposed on that front, someone who,
00:58:04.100
who really loves America, who can do things here, um, and not people who, you know, who
00:58:08.760
want to do the opposite that want to, uh, use our resources and, and not offer things.
00:58:13.680
Um, but I mean, that, that, that has nothing to do with color of skin has nothing to do
00:58:18.800
It's about, do you feel the same way as Jonathan, as you just heard from Jonathan?
00:58:22.400
There's, I don't think there's anybody in this audience that would say anybody who
00:58:25.980
looked any way that had the same attitude as Jonathan, that we would want to restrict
00:58:32.360
Most of the people in this country don't even have near the passion for this country that
00:58:38.220
Did you hear it in his voice when he said, my dream, my whole life dream has been just
00:58:51.460
We, I mean, we did everything we could and we did it all the right way.
00:59:19.880
That's why Monday is the perfect day to start a diet because you're coming off of the weekend
00:59:24.140
where maybe you had a little bit too much to eat, a little bit too much to drink, and
00:59:40.240
And they went through and they, they went through a bunch of studies and found that there's some
00:59:43.720
stuff in olive oil that actually helps you speed up your metabolism and control your
00:59:51.560
One of our Blaze reporters, Sarah Gonzalez, lost over a hundred pounds on her own.
00:59:55.300
And now she takes Ridgizone to control her cravings.
00:59:57.580
She says it's so much easier to control her appetite and she's not thinking about food
01:00:03.420
You're going to save 30% off right now with the offer code stew.
01:00:28.880
And just as an aside, any day that you're feeling down about things in general, just
01:00:48.160
So I have a lot of expertise in this area and it sounds as if you guys were attempting
01:00:57.800
Which certainly would certainly meet the education and experience requirements.
01:01:04.120
But there's another type of visa called an L-1.
01:01:09.220
But what an L-1 visa is, it's a multinational company.
01:01:13.600
So let's say, you know, Google for this, you know, lack of a, you know, just any company.
01:01:18.140
If they have an office in another country and they have headquarters here, they can take
01:01:23.420
someone who's an employee at that company, at Google, as long as they've been employed
01:01:28.640
for one year, they can then be relocated and work at the headquarters.
01:01:34.420
But they can only be employed by that one company only.
01:01:39.920
And so if you were to establish some entity in Ireland under Mercury 1 or the Blaze or
01:01:48.800
whatever, and establish you are a viable business entity and employ Jonathan there for 12 months,
01:01:57.940
you would be able to bring him to the United States and he could then be here living, working
01:02:07.720
And then from there, once he has an L-1, then you could pursue all of the other legal channels
01:02:15.620
But it would just require the 12 months as an employee of your company that establish itself
01:02:24.600
That kind of sounds like a bogus marriage, but it's a very interesting workaround.
01:02:35.900
I mean, if we, you know, there's no reason, certainly we'd love to have a branch of our
01:02:40.060
company or Mercury 1 over in Ireland to spread that word.
01:02:43.200
We've talked about it many times, not just Ireland, but all around the world.
01:02:51.960
It's a sad thought, though, because, I mean, why do we need to do that?
01:02:55.020
We need to open up a business in another country to get a guy who loves America and would help
01:03:01.180
I was listening to him talking, and I thought, you know, if I'm sitting there and I'm at the
01:03:04.780
immigration office, I'm listening to this guy, and I'm like, I want this guy.
01:03:08.280
I mean, listen to the way he talks about the country, and he's tearing up that it's his
01:03:11.980
dream to be an American for all the right reasons.
01:03:15.240
And, but, you know, there are people on the, you know, people that would listen to him
01:03:21.700
and go, he's exactly the, not the right guy to have on.
01:03:24.440
How do you, how do you create a system that is, is based somewhat on gut?
01:03:35.420
You can only do all the checking, you know, that you're never going to, you're not going
01:03:39.240
to be able to create a system that's exactly like that.
01:03:41.420
But you can create one that, that does base some of the process on merit, a higher percentage
01:03:46.600
of it on merit, instead of, you know, family relations, right?
01:03:50.460
Well, but he is, I mean, he didn't make it for merit.
01:03:53.620
He has a hard time finding work in, in Ireland.
01:03:57.060
I mean, you know, it's not exactly a bustling, you know, place, especially for somebody who
01:04:02.320
doesn't, I mean, he doesn't really relate to, to the Irish anymore.
01:04:07.360
He's, he's not, he considers himself an American.
01:04:14.220
Now, can you imagine saying about your own country, what he said, which was, I have no
01:04:21.860
You know, that's not, that's more than just liking America.
01:04:24.340
That's like, you know, he's, he's, he's so in love with America that he no longer, it's
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like, he's like an, he's, he's got a, he's had an affair.
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He's, he's no longer in love with his wife and he's had an affair and that's what he feels
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He's like in a, in a passionless marriage with his country.
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Which is kind of sad, you know, I mean, in a way, and I can understand how that would
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Especially since he wants a divorce and his, you know, spouse of a country won't give him
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This is the city of some good friends of yours, like Gordon B.
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I am right now a permanent resident here in the U.S.
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It took me seven years, $60,000, but I made it.
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And I just listened to Jonathan, and I don't know, I assume that he consulted with an immigration
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attorney, but there's some, I believe there's some path for him to become a U.S. legal resident.
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For example, the other person that spoke before me, he said something about what's called an
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H-1B visa, which is a visa that the Immigration Department issues to foreigners, aliens with
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Jonathan said that he doesn't hold a college degree, but even an associate degree or a
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bachelor's degree would do, because immigration considers one year of schooling out of every
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So let's say that this guy holds a bachelor's degree, which is not enough because it's four
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But if he also has six years of work experience, that would adapt to six years, which would be
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considered as a master's degree by the Immigration Department.
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The two key elements here, first, he needs to have some schooling, either master's, bachelor
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plus six years experience, or an associate degree plus 12 years of experience.
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Second, he needs to have a job offer from a U.S. company.
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Those are the, well, schooling, I don't know, unless he only finished high school, I don't
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know if he would be eligible with only a high school diploma.
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He's, he's, you know, he's, you know, it's not, it's, it's not a good economic situation
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And, and so I, I doubt that he went beyond the, the high school level.
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I know he graduated from high school, but I don't think he did any college experience.
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This is why the conservative focus should be making legal immigration easier and more
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You know, if that is a, it's, it's a, it's not a hateful message.
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And border security is part of that, by the way.
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But I mean, when you make it so impossible for people who are qualified to come here
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to come, then you wind up increasing the amount of illegal immigration.
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If you were to make it more rational for people to be able to come here and not make
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it impossible, people will be coming legally more often.
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You add in border security and you solve this problem pretty quickly.
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I mean, I know he'd have to lower his standards and his principles.
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Why don't you speak so negatively about yourself?
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He's probably cute and thin and young, and I'm not any of that.
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We do not bring thin people into this atmosphere.
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Every business needs to hire great people, and there's a better way to find them.
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Something better than just posting your job online and praying for the right people to
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So if you receive a buttload, they just want to make sure, did you see this one?
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01:10:09.260
One of the pitches that really was just one guy's idea, and Trump said,
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Trump administration is proposing to save billions in the upcoming years by giving low-income
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families a box of government-picked non-perishable foods every month instead of food stamps.
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The White House budget director said on Monday, this is a pretty good idea.
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It's a Blue Apron type program, which I don't think Blue Apron probably...
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A big fan of Blue Apron does not quite send you that.
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They send you really good gourmet meals that you have to, with fresh ingredients.
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It's a little bit different, but I mean, it's a whole, it's a food delivery system.
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Suddy Perdue is the director for agriculture secretary.
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It would contain 100% U.S. grown and produced foods.
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It would include items that are shelf-stable, like milk.
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I mean, does it even drink powdered milk anymore?
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We have all sorts of milk in our refrigerator, and none of them come from cows.
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The chair that you have to get underneath it is so small.
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The only milk we have is we have the milk for the kids' cereal, which is regular milk.
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But I've come to the point where I've had so much almond milk that I actually sort of
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No baby almonds are snuggling up to the mother almond saying, oh, I need a little bit of...
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Milk is something that comes from a teat that feeds the children.
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So it doesn't include fresh items like produce or meat, which is a problem.
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They're not just saying they're providing every single thing you're going to need.
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They're just saying, here are some basics, right?
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You get a certain amount of basics that the government could theoretically provide.
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Now, I don't like this idea because I don't want the government getting into the food delivery
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It is, they're picking what food is right for you.
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And I never understood why the left would have any problem with this at all.
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If Michelle Obama is going to say that kids at school who are paying for food have to
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eat certain foods that are only healthy, why not?
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If we're giving food stamps, why should they be able to purchase snack cakes?
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And if I may say, she also says, especially those who are underprivileged, they don't have
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food, or if they do have food, it's not the right food.
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So why wouldn't you be for food stamps just buying nutritious food or, you know, sending
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a box of what we, you know, what we as a people, you know, a small committee in Washington
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Well, and again, when you are on a government program, and let's say, let's say this world
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is designed the way it's supposed to be, which is a government program is the absolute last
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Like you're on the verge of starvation, a government program steps in.
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It's not for people who are making $50,000 a year.
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It's for people who are at the last, the last ditch effort to feed themselves and their
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And at that point, all but the very hardest core libertarians will say, all right, in
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that particular circumstance, we will step in and try to help, right?
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So if you have that system, why should you have the freedom to go choose snack cakes?
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Like you should be able, that shouldn't be the thing.
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If you're providing the minimum level in desperate situations, it shouldn't be at a hostess
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My church runs what I believe is the largest global welfare unit in the world.
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It's second only to the United States government.
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I mean, you, you have to go through classes on being able to figure out, you know, what
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is problem, what the problem is with your, you know, your job situation.
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They may take you and say, okay, well, let's get you some further education to help you out
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I mean, you have to, you have to show that you are good for it.
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You know, we will help you if you're, there's problem, but you have to do certain things
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to be able to show I'm going to build my life in a much more stable way that we don't,
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I mean, the conservatives have talked about this for a long time, making food stamps only
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There's never been the political will to get that done.
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And it's pretty hard to implement, and I guess the box situation would solve some of those
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I just don't like the idea that the government is sending you a box of food every month.
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No, because they're going to, they're going to, it'll be all kinds of crony capitalism.
01:16:31.300
The next, you know, administrations in there will make that, you know, thing cost three
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And, you know, it's going to be very difficult to, to deal with.
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And, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it'll be a gigantic program.
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I mean, can you imagine just the resources that would go into, well, they say it's going
01:16:49.680
You know, the government says, I've heard that before.
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I have actually, and I don't necessarily believe it.
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They said, um, we think it will save millions of dollars every single year.
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However, we haven't added in the actual shipping costs yet.
01:17:33.740
So yesterday, some men clad in hazmat suits marched through Donald Jr.
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In Vanessa Trump's Manhattan apartment yesterday.
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They had to initiate decontamination procedures while Vanessa was taken to the hospital because
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earlier in the day, she received a curious letter in the mail.
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Is there anything to remember after 9-11 when they started, they said that there was an
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anthrax scare and people were sending this to Congress and they were sending this to the
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Please don't let it be an American that did that.
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Then the Obamas got in and they were saying that, you know, the right was so dangerous and
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every time there was something like this, please don't let this be somebody who has any connection
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Yesterday, I didn't sense anybody saying that to themselves.
01:18:42.380
Vanessa instantly felt nauseous and started coughing uncontrollably.
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Thankfully, the powder was found to be not hazardous.
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Vanessa and the other two people who were in the house are doing fine.
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I think if I opened up white powder in my house and I knew what was going on and what that could be,
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I think I would have been a little nauseous myself.
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But this isn't the first time an insidious letter containing white powder has been sent to the Trumps.
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In 2016, police investigated a similar letter sent to Eric Trump and two letters containing the powder
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Who could possibly be doing that and who would condone fear tactics like this?
01:19:30.000
Many on Twitter, including the Socialist Party.
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They tweeted from their official Socialist Party Twitter account,
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Disgusting people attract disgusting behavior, end quote.
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But socialists have always condoned violence and underhanded deeds.
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does the Trump family deserve this kind of a threat?
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If you're saying, well, may I just ask that you don't lose sight of humanity?
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That we don't hate people just because they have a different perspective?
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Or even if you think that they're haters themselves,
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why hate them and become what you claim they are?
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Are there any things that we can stand united on?
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If we can't stand united against the sentiments of the Socialist Party
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Well, then we might as all, well, just go and join the Socialist Party
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because this is something that socialists have never understood.
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Yesterday, we started a new program on television
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and we gather around a roundtable and we just go through the news of the day.
01:21:16.980
And most of us agreed last night that the big story was
01:21:19.800
the way the media was treating Kim Jong-un's sister
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Even though that's what the Japanese had warned the media,
01:21:41.200
Can we remind you who she is, who her family is,
01:21:49.780
We decided to have somebody on this that's been on before
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Dear Reader, the Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong-il,
01:21:58.840
which is excellent, also spent time in North Korea
01:22:01.800
and knows this regime and the whole family inside and out.
01:22:13.620
They're kind of just becoming familiar with Kim Jong-un's sister.
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Can you explain who she is and what she's done?
01:22:20.660
The thing about the North Korean Kim family is,
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It's not like, you know, here where I can look at the State Department's website
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and figure out who the undersecretary is for something
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Information in North Korea about the Maine family is tightly controlled
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to the point where you don't even discuss it in polite company.
01:22:46.140
we visited the grave of Kim Jong-un's grandmother,
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who was always referred to as anti-Japanese heroine Kim Jong-suk.
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oh, did she have any other kids other than Kim Jong-il?
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And it was the kind of thing where she had to answer,
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but it was like, she didn't want to talk about it.
01:23:10.660
If I ask somebody, hey, have you ever had a drug problem?
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Because in North Korea, the worst thing you can do
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In North Korea, the family is regarded as almost supernatural.
01:23:50.700
but her job is to be in charge of the propaganda
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to build this personality cult around his father,
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So not only does it have to be explicitly political,
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I go, hey, why does Kim Jong-il hate the Mona Lisa?