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00:03:20.680 Well, hello, America. Welcome to the Glen Bear.

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00:03:56.040 D.C., where a free Palestine Marxist killed two Jews. Genocide? I don't know. We can't

00:04:04.620 decide what genocide is. We're going to start with South Africa, what happened in the White

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00:05:30.740 Thank you, Sarah. One big, beautiful bill. It looks like the tweaks are going to be enough to win the

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00:06:25.960 to say, yeah, what we said in that bill, we mean, and we're going to start it right now.

00:06:30.580 So that's where it gets a little hairy for most people. Also, the no tax on tips passes the Senate

00:06:38.140 unanimously. Then we have Trump talking about leasing or taking the mortgage giants, Fannie Mae and

00:06:46.520 Freddie Mac, which I believe is a public nightmare, honestly. You cannot have the government involved in

00:06:52.480 people's mortgages. They do all kinds of tricks. It's one of the things that helped cause the 2008

00:06:57.580 crash is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. But Trump says they're now healthy and he wants to take them

00:07:03.160 public. So get them off of our books. Let other people take the risk in the private sector. Amen.

00:07:10.020 Now, I watched the president yesterday in the Oval Office, and I got to tell you,

00:07:14.880 this guy's the goat. I want you to think one thing. We have been trying to find out the truth

00:07:25.560 on what's happening in South Africa. Is there a genocide going on? Well, the first thing that I

00:07:31.820 would tell you, we did a report on this in May 2021, somewhere in that. And we had some evidence

00:07:40.260 that there is some sort of, you know, genocide, if you will. Let's explain that first. Genocide to me

00:07:46.860 is not six million Jews. Genocide is a stated purpose of getting rid of any class, any kind of

00:07:54.460 person, any group of people. That's a genocide. We want to wipe you out. Yesterday, a genocide was

00:08:01.120 furthered in Washington, D.C. when they shot the two Jews on the street. Why is that a genocide? It was

00:08:07.520 only two. Because the people who do it are claiming they want to do it to all Jews. Okay? So I think

00:08:15.060 genocide is kind of a mindset. You genocidal maniac. It's a mindset. It's not a number. All right. So

00:08:24.860 we believe that there is, based on that interpretation, that there is a genocide going on. And I'm going

00:08:32.440 to talk to you next hour about how that, what you're seeing in South Africa is what is coming

00:08:37.540 here. And I don't mean the white thing. I just mean the violence in South Africa is remarkable.

00:08:45.080 So President Trump, because nobody in the media is ever going to say anything about this. They won't

00:08:50.520 cover it. In fact, you are just, you're killed if you try to cover it. But T. Beckett Adams, who used to

00:08:58.940 work for the blaze years and years ago, he said, you know, I don't know about the, you know, what's

00:09:05.220 happening, whether the claim of genocide is baseless or not. But I do know the people that insisting that

00:09:10.820 it is baseless said the Hunter laptop, the COVID lab leak, the Biden deterioration were baseless claims

00:09:16.700 as well. So grain of salt with those people. Amen. Thank you. That's exactly right.

00:09:23.660 Now, let's, let me show you what the president did. He has the president of South Africa,

00:09:30.360 Ramaphosa, in his office. And he says, you know, I want to show you, you know, let's talk about what's

00:09:36.600 happening to the white farmers. Now, I said this as I was watching this in real time. And I said this

00:09:42.440 last night on the TV show. He makes one mistake. He said, these are grave sites. They're not grave

00:09:48.680 sites. They're not. They're memorials. We see them on the highways. Somebody dies. They put up

00:09:53.560 a little red, a little white cross someplace. And, you know, somebody had a car accident there.

00:09:58.040 So this is just a memorial that they put together to show the world how many farmers,

00:10:03.500 white farmers are being killed. And so here he has the president of South Africa sitting in the office

00:10:10.300 and he plays this. Watch. These are burial sites right here. Burial sites over a thousand.

00:10:19.840 Each one of those white things you see is a cross. And there's approximately a thousand of them.

00:10:29.360 They're all white farmers, the family of white farmers. And those cars aren't driving. They're

00:10:35.720 stopped there to pay respects to their family member who was killed. And it's a terrible sight. I've never

00:10:43.340 seen anything like it. Those people are all killed. Have they told you where that is, Mr. President?

00:10:49.700 Okay. No, I'd like to know where that is.

00:10:54.740 So the president is playing, you know, he is short-circuiting the press. You know what?

00:11:01.720 These people say everything is conspiracy theory. I don't know what it is. I have the president here.

00:11:05.540 I'm going to ask him, why not ask him in front of everybody? And the president says,

00:11:09.400 I'd like to know where that is. I know. Well, come on. I've seen that video before for years.

00:11:14.320 I know that video, you know, you don't, you're the president. You've never seen that video before.

00:11:18.880 Maybe, maybe not. But let me show you another piece of video that the blaze had on last night

00:11:26.040 on Sarah's show. Do you have the video of, this is just, these are stones that have names carved in

00:11:36.060 them. And it goes on and on and on. And it looks like the Vietnam War Memorial. Okay. Those are all

00:11:44.580 names of white farmers. If you're watching the blaze, just think the Vietnam War Memorial.

00:11:48.580 And they put all these names on these walls and they just keep going. So, I mean, that's pretty

00:11:58.660 elaborate if this is, you know, fake, what they're putting all these fake names on granite. Now,

00:12:05.160 what the press is saying, in fact, if we have, do we have the audio from, I think it's CNN or NPR. Do we

00:12:11.900 have that audio? For people who don't have a historical context, it does potentially appear

00:12:21.260 more literal. It is an inflammatory song, without a doubt. And many in South Africa,

00:12:27.280 even black South Africans, don't think it should be sung in a post-apartheid world, 30 years plus

00:12:33.120 after apartheid. But there are many who grew up under those years of white minority rule who

00:12:38.160 understand the historical context of this song, Kill the Boar, Kill the Farmer,

00:12:43.180 that Julius Malema has made popular again. It sort of fell into disuse. It's not been that commonly

00:12:48.900 sung after the end of apartheid in 1994. But it's brought it back again to reanimate the issue of

00:12:56.600 the majority of land in South Africa still being owned by white farmers. Okay. Okay. So that's all

00:13:03.040 they're doing. They're saying kill the boar, which means kill the whites. It hasn't been sung for

00:13:08.060 a long, long time, but I guess it's okay now. I mean, you know what? The Klan, you know,

00:13:12.520 we didn't have giant cross burnings around the country, but they're trying to make an economic

00:13:16.880 point now. So I think it's pretty okay that the Klan is, what are you talking about?

00:13:23.840 That is, that's insane. You know what that is? That's the New York Times covering just like they

00:13:30.780 did with Walter Durante on the Holodomor. There's no actual starvation or deaths from starvation,

00:13:37.100 but there is widespread mortality from disease during, due to malnutrition. That's the New

00:13:43.700 York Times. The excellent harvest about to be gathered shows that the report of a famine in

00:13:48.000 Russia is an exaggeration or malignant page of the New York Times. How about the Holocaust from

00:13:55.680 1942? The Chicago Daily Tribune. Ready? British section of the World Jewish Congress estimated today

00:14:05.740 more than a million Jews have been killed or died as a result of ill treatment in countries dominated

00:14:10.200 by Germany. That was the only paragraph about the final solution. That was it. So please,

00:14:21.040 you have a history of missing these things. Now let me give you some perspective on the other side.

00:14:26.660 Again, I don't know how many people have died. And what they're doing is they're saying, well,

00:14:33.500 there's, I mean, there's 19, there's 19,000 murders or 20,000 murders, you know, every year.

00:14:39.960 Actually, there's 27,000 murders annually in South Africa. Okay. Annual murders, 27,000.

00:14:50.580 The annual murders, just to give you some perspective, they have a population of 63 million

00:14:56.780 people. The annual murder rate for our country, a country with 350 million people, is 19,252.

00:15:09.180 So I don't know. There seems to be a bad murder problem happening in South Africa. I don't know how

00:15:17.340 the president even calls this a country. You don't have a government. If you have 90 or sorry,

00:15:23.460 27,000 murders every year with a population of 63 million, we think our murder population is out

00:15:31.040 of control. We think we've got problems with crime and murder. We have 19,000. They have 27,000.

00:15:39.340 So they don't, they barely even have a country. Now the press is saying, well, only 2000 of those

00:15:45.320 were the white farmers. Oh, okay. All right. Stu, could you quick ask AI or just look it up

00:15:52.880 yourself? If you don't know it already, how many people were lynched in America? Over a hundred years.

00:16:02.160 How many people were lynched? I think the number is under 5,000.

00:16:07.040 I don't know. Is that a problem?

00:16:08.520 Is that a problem for anybody in the press? Oh, well, there are only 5,000. Let me be crazy.

00:16:17.580 There are only 10,000 people lynched. Oh, okay. Well then that's not a genocide. That's not a problem

00:16:26.580 there. There are only 2,000 white farmers who were killed and slaughtered. I'm not saying that

00:16:33.020 everybody is engaged in this. I'm saying you have a major political party singing, kill the whites.

00:16:42.380 Okay. In stadiums, singing, kill the whites. Well, you don't understand the historic perspective.

00:16:49.660 You know what? When somebody tells you they're going to kill you, you take them seriously. You

00:16:53.480 have no choice. Now let me play something else from the leader of the same party.

00:16:57.360 Here is the leader from the same party. I think this was a year or so ago. Let me look it up.

00:17:05.860 This is, nope. Nope. This is recent. Here he is, leader of the economic freedom fighters on this

00:17:15.600 particular, is there a genocide? Are you killing white farmers? Listen to what he says.

00:17:19.600 I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing

00:17:25.200 of white people, at least for now. I can't guarantee the future. Yeah, but I mean, you'd understand

00:17:31.020 somebody watching that, especially as it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out. It sounds like

00:17:35.420 a genocidal thing. Ah, cry babies. Cry babies. I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people.

00:17:40.760 At least for now. I can't give you a guarantee of the future. Stop! Do you need to hear any more?

00:17:47.760 Or, I'm not calling for the killing of white people, at least for now. If I got on and said,

00:17:53.940 you know what, I'm not calling for the killing of, you know, Asians, at least not for now,

00:18:00.760 would the press be okay with that? Or would they call me a genocidal maniac? I think we know the

00:18:08.760 answer. And the answer is yes, they would have a problem with it. They'd call me a genocidal maniac,

00:18:15.400 and they would be correct to do that. Do not listen to the press. Do not listen to the press.

00:18:26.820 I can't tell you what the numbers are. I can't tell you how many people are involved in killing

00:18:32.700 whites. I can just tell you there is a major party. Would you accept the Klan? Would America

00:18:39.600 accept the Klan as a major political party that had real political sway that they said they were

00:18:48.560 singing kill the black man? Well, you don't understand. It's an old-timey Klan song from

00:18:53.960 the 1800s. We don't mean it like, you know, like they used to. You just have to understand the

00:18:58.760 historic. We're just making a point, okay? Would they accept that? The answer is no.

00:19:03.920 Now, if they had these big rallies, they were singing the song, and then you went to the head

00:19:08.260 grand wizard or dragon or whatever the hell they are, and the guy said, no, you know what? We are not

00:19:14.260 calling for the killing of black people yet, at least not now. Would the New York Times be okay with

00:19:22.980 that? The answer is no. Racism is a human problem. Here's what's really going on. The reason why they're

00:19:33.760 not saying anything is because those who are calling for the killings of whites are what? They

00:19:39.700 are Marxist, and they are all into the ESG, DEI, anti-racist bullcrap. America, you want to see your

00:19:51.000 future? You're seeing it right now in South Africa, and that should be a frightening thing for

00:19:59.880 non-whites. Because remember, there's about 2,000 whites that are farmers that are killed, okay, by

00:20:05.420 these radicals. But the government, with all of their great socialist stuff, they have 27,000 murders

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00:22:26.660 4,742 total lynchings. However, that is, as you note, broken up between 3,445 African-Americans,

00:22:35.100 1,297 whites were lynched in that period. Okay, so what does that tell you? During that period,

00:22:41.360 it wasn't just racism. It was also a political party. Because the whites that were killed were

00:22:49.840 the whites that were politically standing up for the rights of blacks. Okay? So it is a political

00:22:57.680 racist movement. By the way, look it up. The Klan was started by the Democrats as an enforcement arm.

00:23:07.940 You know, a little like, let's say, Antifa or Black Lives Matter. Same thing. Oh, no, we're not really.

00:23:16.420 No. Really? Aren't you? Hmm. That's really interesting. All right. We'll have more on that

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00:25:18.680 Welcome to Thursday, the Glenn Beck Program. Happy to have Andy McCarthy on. Andy is a good

00:25:40.900 friend of the program. He is, he is one of the, he's one of the greatest guys that I know. He's

00:25:46.060 really a good guy. He has great perspective. This time we disagree, I think. He's a National

00:25:51.220 Review Contributing Editor, National Review Institute Senior Fellow, former Chief Assistant

00:25:56.820 U.S. Attorney, and very, very knowledgeable. His opinion is very important. Welcome to the

00:26:03.980 program, Andy. How are you?

00:26:05.880 Glenn, great to be with you. I'm doing great.

00:26:09.280 Great, thank you. You just released something today about immigration and Donald Trump and

00:26:15.360 the, you know, war with the judges, et cetera, et cetera. Let me just get your quick understanding

00:26:21.160 of habeas corpus and why, what you, what Trump is doing, you think is wrong.

00:26:29.480 Well, on this particular case, Glenn, I think what he's doing is right. I think it's the judge

00:26:34.100 that overstepped the boundary. And I think the quick way to understand this is to the extent

00:26:43.580 that there is statutory law. Immigration is a plenary responsibility of Congress. All of the

00:26:51.620 president's authority to enforce the law comes from Congress. So to the extent that Congress has

00:26:57.900 defined due process standards and the Supreme Court has established due process principles that apply

00:27:05.720 to things like the Alien Enemies Act, the administration has to follow those. But that is

00:27:10.960 not license for federal judges to make up new due process requirements on the fly.

00:27:18.420 Right, right.

00:27:19.780 The administration has to follow those. And that's what's happened in the, in this Boston case.

00:27:24.620 So I got to tell you, Andy, I, I completely, um, misunderstood. I thought you were, um,

00:27:31.420 generally opposed to what the president was doing on immigration. That's not true. I don't have it

00:27:36.920 right.

00:27:38.060 Well, no, I, I'm an immigration hawk. I think I was one before the president was. What I'm concerned about,

00:27:45.240 what I'm concerned about is that if they don't cross the T's and dot the I's from the due process

00:27:53.280 perspective, that's on the books, it's going to undermine the important objective of getting out

00:27:59.940 of the country, people who shouldn't be in the United States. Right. So let me ask you,

00:28:03.780 cause I talked about this yesterday and you're the perfect guy to talk about for people who say,

00:28:08.180 you know, habeas corpus is important and it is, you know, I would remind you that in the

00:28:13.100 constitution, it says it, it can be suspended in cases of invasion. And I think you could make a

00:28:19.080 case this, we've been invaded, um, intentionally. Um, I mean, China is, is helping thwart, uh, you

00:28:25.800 know, and use the court system and trying to fund people to thwart the, uh, the effort to get people

00:28:30.240 out. Why is China involved in this anyway? Um, but I want to make sure that it is right. What's what

00:28:36.040 the problem is, is that we have a court system that is, you know, just gave somebody a court date

00:28:41.220 of 2032. In my opinion, that violates what the sixth amendment of a speedy trial. That's not a speedy

00:28:46.540 trial. And they're overwhelming the system there. Can't the president do something where he can

00:28:52.160 appoint judges like right at the border or the airports or wherever, you know, or wherever

00:28:56.000 they're deporting and go, tell me your story. Yep. You're not here illegally. You're, um, you know,

00:29:01.720 you, you cross the border, blah, blah, blah. And you don't, you don't qualify for asylum. You,

00:29:06.900 uh, maybe you have a case you stand over here. We'll talk about a little longer. Isn't there some

00:29:10.920 way to expedite all this and still give the due process, not just a, a glance and a nod,

00:29:17.140 but an actual chance to work just in a fast way? Yeah, I think we have our eye kind of on the wrong

00:29:26.700 ball on this because our immigration laws are excellent actually for, for people who are

00:29:33.960 immigration or hawks. And there are expedited processes. The problem which you alluded to

00:29:40.920 is that they flooded the system. So for example, you can't as a practical matter, get through all

00:29:47.500 the due process steps, unless you can stash someone for the few weeks that it takes to get through

00:29:52.540 an immigration hearing before a justice department judge, not a, not a article three judge, uh, an appeal

00:30:00.920 to the board of immigration appeals, which is also the justice department. And then a one shot appeal

00:30:06.360 that they get to a circuit court of appeals, not a district judge, which is limited. Does habeas

00:30:13.880 corpus allow for all of the, all you're supposed to have a fair hearing, not, not a, uh, you know,

00:30:23.900 process like this, where you have appeal after appeal after appeal until it ends in the Supreme court.

00:30:28.500 Well, a lot of them don't ever get through this. Yeah. A lot of them don't go the full

00:30:33.520 appeal. A lot of them just get turned around on the immigration hearing. And a lot of them don't

00:30:38.800 even have the immigration hearing, Glenn, the, the ones that you're talking about, like right at the

00:30:42.720 border, we find someone, they can be turned around on the basis of a, you know, a hearing before an

00:30:48.940 immigration officer. The problem we have is not that the system doesn't allow for expedited

00:30:54.940 proceedings. It's that Congress hasn't funded the system. So for example, we have 20 million

00:31:02.160 illegal aliens in the country. Congress has provided for 46,700 detention spaces.

00:31:09.540 So it's, it's laughable the way they've funded this. You're entirely right. We need immigration

00:31:16.780 judges, immigration officers who can turn this, these guys around places where we can stash these

00:31:22.180 people for what could be days or weeks of proceedings, but it's not years and years of

00:31:27.400 million dollar trials. That's right. Right. All that. Correct. All that stuff. But Congress has

00:31:33.740 to identify this as like the. Congress has to identify this as the most important crisis in

00:31:41.900 the country and funded accordingly. Okay. Let me, uh, let me switch because I've got so many things to ask

00:31:51.540 you. Um, Nancy Mace, she is saying she's, she's just, uh, filed a motion to expel, um, La Monica

00:31:58.740 MacIver of New Jersey charged with assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement. The video is, I

00:32:05.580 think, very, very clear on this. Should, uh, do you think she'll go to jail on this? Should she go to jail

00:32:12.660 on this from what you've seen? Uh, and shouldn't she be expelled from Congress? Isn't this a pretty

00:32:18.920 large violation? Yeah, I, I think, you know, as far as the equities are concerned, she should be

00:32:26.500 convicted. I don't know if she should go to jail because we, you know, we have pretty serious crimes

00:32:31.200 in New York and New Jersey that they don't send people to jail over, but she should certainly be

00:32:35.540 convicted. And do I think she rates being kicked out of Congress? Yes. Um, do I expect Congress to do

00:32:42.360 that? No. Jeez. Um, all right, let me switch again. Ed Martin has just floated some names of

00:32:53.640 the gatekeepers in, uh, Biden's auto pen controversy. He said that there, he has a, um,

00:33:00.980 a source, a well-placed source. Their persons of interest have lawyered up. A whistleblower came

00:33:07.160 forward, um, uh, 10 days ago, apparently, uh, a senior, senior Democrat saying, look, it was these

00:33:15.880 three people that controlled access and they were making money off of it. Indicated the whistleblower

00:33:21.600 was involved with a 2020 Biden campaign at the highest levels. Again, a Democrat saying this,

00:33:27.340 um, and they were dominant characters in the white house. They had found some way to make cash

00:33:33.460 off of the auto pen. Uh, is that treason? Well, it's not treason. I mean, treason is, uh, you have to

00:33:42.120 aid enemies of the government and that were enemies of the United States. And it's got to be done by

00:33:47.240 during wartime, but it's a profound fraud on the government. Um, it certainly, there are a number

00:33:54.880 of prosecutable crimes I could think of if they can prove these things, uh, that would come out of it.

00:34:01.100 And, you know, whether we call it treason or, or something else, it's pretty heinous,

00:34:05.080 uh, in order to be treated that way. All right. So let me, let me take you here. Um,

00:34:20.020 let me take you to, um, uh, the shooting of the two Israelis yesterday. Um, they, the, the shooter

00:34:31.820 was party for socialism and liberation. Uh, one of the 1500, uh, pro-terrorism groups that Ryan

00:34:38.540 Morrow was on this program, uh, said that, that, you know, they're going to cause problems. He listed

00:34:44.880 that, I think about a year, year and a half ago. Um, they have been, this, this guy has been at the

00:34:49.440 anti-Israel protest, you know, the marching towards violence study that he did. Um, it's a Marxist

00:34:55.320 communist group and, uh, he went and he's been, they've been calling for the extermination of

00:35:02.380 Jews. What should be done with this guy? Well, I think that has to be prosecuted. I assume

00:35:09.980 that the FBI and the Trump justice department are going to investigate this as a, an act of

00:35:15.340 international terrorism, uh, and prosecuted accordingly, not just a random or average quotidian

00:35:23.500 murder that we get in, uh, Washington DC, but this is something that's obviously much

00:35:28.400 more profound. When I say, uh, that this is international terrorism, you know, what you

00:35:34.840 usually get back is, well, this is all committed in the United States and it's, uh, it doesn't

00:35:39.480 cross the borders. The case I did in the nineties, Glenn, against the blind shake in his cell, which

00:35:46.760 included the world trade center bombing, but also included an act very much like this, the

00:35:50.760 murder of Meyer Kahani, uh, in 1990, the founder of the Jewish defense league. All of those acts

00:35:57.000 were committed inside the United States, but they obviously transcended international borders

00:36:03.640 as that, as that language is, uh, set forth in the statute. So this is clearly international

00:36:10.500 terrorism. I have to say what bothers me the most in reading about this is that the media

00:36:15.760 keeps calling this stuff, anti-Israel protests, the rhetoric that animates this. And I would

00:36:21.420 just point out what I've been pointing out for 30 years, which is, this is, uh, whether

00:36:26.900 these are leftists or leftists who are working with Sharia supremacists, this is anti-Jewish

00:36:34.040 hatred and it's scripturally rooted. Uh, this is pro Hamas rhetoric. It's not like mere protest

00:36:43.280 against the Netanyahu government. And it goes back to doctrine that says the reason they say

00:36:49.760 like from the river to the sea is this is a war of extermination against Jews, uh, under

00:36:55.360 the auspices of the scriptural idea that once territory is controlled by Muslims, it has to

00:37:01.260 be controlled by Muslims for eternity. So this is something that, uh, I talked about when

00:37:08.560 we looked at South Africa just a few minutes ago. Um, you know, I don't care how many were

00:37:13.140 killed. If the, if there's a group saying that we are going to kill all the white farmers,

00:37:19.080 I don't care if it's 2000 or one, they are genocidal maniacs. This is something entirely

00:37:26.740 different than just a regular crime. If these people are saying that we have to get rid of

00:37:34.040 all the Jews. So saying they're pro Hamas or anti-Israel is not going far enough. As you

00:37:40.420 said, the Sharia supremacists that are involved in this, but this is, this was an act of a genocidal

00:37:48.040 maniac who, who is engaging in his own little version of genocide. Do you agree with that or

00:37:54.640 not? I do. I think that look, if they're violent acts that are committed with the intention of

00:38:03.100 either intimidating a civilian population or changing government policy through violence,

00:38:10.140 then that's terrorism and it ought to be prosecuted as terrorism.

00:38:16.080 Andy, uh, thank you so much. Are we in the last six months, do you think we're getting better

00:38:21.400 or worse? I, I feel like in some ways we're getting better. In some ways the, the left has

00:38:27.200 gone so insane. I just feel like we're headed for, you know, I know I'm not saying it's coming

00:38:32.640 this summer, maybe it will, but like a summer of rage that the, the left has gone very, very dark.

00:38:41.340 I actually think things are better than they were six months ago. I haven't agreed with everything

00:38:47.360 the administration's done, but I agree with most of where they want to take the country.

00:38:52.280 And I think that to the extent that the civil rights laws are now going to be interpreted

00:38:59.080 the way they were always meant to be interpreted, because the statutes are written in a neutral way.

00:39:04.620 They're not written just for the protection of democratic party interest groups, but if the civil

00:39:10.100 rights laws are going to be enforced in a way that protects all Americans, uh, then we're in a much

00:39:16.940 better place than we were before. Even if we're getting hit day after day after day by stories

00:39:22.740 about like an excess here or an excess there, I still think the trajectory of that is good as

00:39:27.820 long as they're going to enforce the laws that way. Andy, thank you so much. I'm glad, I'm glad I

00:39:33.600 talked to you because I thought you were someplace else than you are. And I'm glad I understand your

00:39:37.400 point of view. Thank you so much, Andy. Appreciate it. Thanks, Glenn. Appreciate it.

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00:41:00.300 Have you ever seen a liberal's hands smoother than a snake on oil? Yes, they're more worried about

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00:41:15.080 Talked a lot today about religious persecution. It continues to be one of the most underreported

00:41:30.900 crises, crises, I guess that is in, in conflict zones. A new documentary looks at all of this.

00:41:38.140 It's called a faith under siege, Russia's hidden war on Ukraine's Christians. It brings this issue

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00:41:52.920 of evangelical and Protestant believers that have become a prime target under Russia's war.

00:41:59.060 The film documents the harsh reality facing these communities. We're talking about like seized

00:42:04.180 churches and tortured pastors and abducted children. They have all of this on video. I mean,

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00:42:54.220 All right, you sick, twisted freak. Let me tell you, coming up in just a second, I'm going to tell

00:43:13.940 you about gas prices, some really good news on that as we head on to Memorial Day weekend. By the way,

00:43:18.400 Mission Impossible 3, or Mission Impossible 2, or 9, or 10, whatever it is, the second part of the

00:43:23.340 last Mission Impossible opens this weekend. I cannot wait. We're going to talk a little bit

00:43:28.820 coming up next hour about some of the things that I think are coming when it comes to, well,

00:43:36.160 I think people going to jail. I think there's some things happening. Also, Kelsey Grammer is coming on

00:43:41.260 today. It's been a long time since we have Kelsey on. He is always a great interview, and he has done

00:43:47.060 something recently that is really quite shocking. I mean, it is one of the most amazing things I have

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00:46:28.860 Hello, America. Welcome. I've got good news for you. It's Memorial Day weekend and gas prices.

00:46:36.400 Oh, this is so nice to be able to say. Gas prices adjusted for inflation will hit the lowest level

00:46:43.040 in more than two decades. If you adjust for inflation, gas this weekend will cost the lowest

00:46:52.640 amount at below $3 a gallon since 2003. So that tells you two things. One, we are turning things

00:47:02.760 around. Things are getting good. The days of $1.25 gas are gone. Not because we're not pumping gas or

00:47:09.200 doing what we're doing. We're doing what we have to do to get, you know, gas to you. But because of

00:47:13.680 inflation. Okay. Stu, look up what the gas price was in 2003. Because I bet you it was just over a

00:47:22.940 dollar, maybe $1.50 max. And if that is adjusted for inflation, that means our dollar has lost half of

00:47:31.680 its value since 2003. Do you have it? $1.56 in 2003. All right. So we've lost just about half

00:47:40.680 our money, inflation. That's because of 2008 and everything the Fed did and all of the money printing

00:47:46.860 from the government and everything else. So good news. It's lowest since 2003. Bad news.

00:47:55.580 Your $3 is actually only $1.50, you know, from 20 years ago. Okay. When we come back, because I want

00:48:03.820 to take a one minute break here, just get this break out of the way so we can then talk for a good 20

00:48:07.580 minutes or so. I want to talk to you about what it's something I started last night and what I believe

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00:48:22.580 The T-bills, Stu and I were just talking about our treasury bonds, our treasury bills went up for

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00:48:37.440 continues, what it means we're going to have to pay higher and higher interest rates on our debt.

00:48:42.840 You'll end up paying higher and higher interest rates, et cetera, et cetera. And the dollar spirals

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00:48:59.020 They passed the big, beautiful bill. Now, if the big, beautiful bill

00:49:03.860 cuts the 1.7 trillion that is in there, but that's going to rely on Congress actually saying,

00:49:10.820 okay, now we're going to do it. They passed it, but that doesn't mean they're going to do it.

00:49:15.240 Once they do it, I'll breathe a sigh of relief. But this also adds to our deficit and the game,

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00:50:37.960 Anyway, let me start here before I get into what I think is coming, and this is a good

00:50:45.840 indication of it. Last night at the Israeli embassy, two staff members, they're called

00:50:51.360 diplomats because they were probably on a diplomatic passport. They worked at the embassy, but these

00:50:55.660 are just two young kids, you know, in their 20s. Yaron Lichinsky and Sarah Milgram,

00:51:07.960 they were walking out of an event that happened to be at the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington,

00:51:14.440 D.C., and a 30-year-old guy, we now know is Elias Rodriguez. He's from Chicago. He decided

00:51:23.620 that he was going to kill himself some Jews, and so he stood in waiting with a gun, and he

00:51:32.140 gunned these two kids down in cold blood. They caught him. They confiscated the gun.

00:51:40.580 I hope he, I mean, if we had the death penalty, I hope he would get the death penalty, but we don't

00:51:44.960 do that anymore, and he's going to be tried most likely in Washington, D.C., so God only knows what

00:51:49.060 happens to him. But this is a couple that he had just this week, unbeknownst to her, got out and

00:51:56.140 bought an engagement ring here in America, was going to bring it back home in his pocket

00:52:02.820 to Israel, and when they got back to Israel next week, he was going to propose. Their

00:52:10.620 whole life, any children they would have had, gone. Now, let me tell you who this guy is.

00:52:20.060 Uh, we now know, um, that this guy was part of a Marxist pro-Hamas organization. Um, it's

00:52:35.800 Marxist-Communist. These are the people our schools are churning out. This is, ends justify the

00:52:46.360 means. Uh, these are the same people that are, you know, the, the same people that are

00:52:52.880 now helping, uh, these judges and pushing these judges and, and, and protesting in the

00:52:59.680 streets and causing all kinds of havoc, uh, because they think that they should stand up

00:53:04.520 for the rights of murderers and everybody else to stay here in our country. Then you have

00:53:09.880 people like, uh, the governor of Minnesota saying that ICE is, uh, Trump's modern day Gestapo.

00:53:17.740 Everything is being ratcheted up. Everything is, I mean, you have, you have Fang Fang's boyfriend

00:53:26.320 saying that they've arrested, uh, MacGyver, a Congresswoman who was assaulting a police officer

00:53:35.500 trying to storm the gates of a secure facility for ICE. All she had to do if she wanted oversight

00:53:42.200 was call them and they would have let her in. But they instead, the mayor who wants to be a governor

00:53:47.640 of New Jersey, uh, he, you know, they came with a bunch of protesters. They protest from the gate.

00:53:53.360 Well, as soon as they opened the gate to let a bus in the protesters, this Congresswoman and the

00:53:58.560 mayor, they all, um, surged at the gate. ICE did their best to stop them. Uh, they were assaulted,

00:54:06.760 yada, yada, yada. And now, you know, Nancy Mace just introduced a bill in Congress that said she

00:54:13.000 should be removed from Congress. I think she should. I don't think Congress will do it. That's how sad

00:54:17.160 things are. She should be removed from Congress. Um, you know, she's assaulting police officers.

00:54:22.640 DOJ is now going to prosecute her after the investigation for, for that.

00:54:29.660 What, why would, why last night on TV, I asked the question, why would the Democrats be going

00:54:34.800 this way? Why would they be standing up for murderers? Why would they be standing up for

00:54:38.980 Hamas? Why would they, why would they be ratcheting up? It's not the way to win an election.

00:54:45.460 You're not going to win on that. America is not going to embrace that. I believe that may not be

00:54:52.120 uh, the, the plan, you know, revolution and direct action stuff. That's what they're trained

00:55:02.960 to do. It's the highest calling of the left. Um, and this isn't about politics. This is about a

00:55:08.300 Marxist worldview that has been baked into the minds of several generations of Americans through our

00:55:13.840 university classrooms. Now, uh, I could give you the, the history of it, but I mean, it starts with

00:55:20.380 John Dewey and then it goes to a guy named, uh, Paolo. I think his name is Frere and Frere. Uh,

00:55:28.040 he wrote a book called the pedagogy of the oppressed. And that is the sacred text for the

00:55:33.140 left and the educational revolution. You want to know what happened to our education pedagogy of the,

00:55:39.420 uh, of the oppressed read it. He didn't see schools as a place for learning math or history.

00:55:45.140 He saw them as battlegrounds for social action all across the U S his critical pedagogy is still the

00:55:51.580 dominant theory in teacher education programs today. So they are churning out radicals. And his

00:55:57.380 big idea was see if this sounds familiar, the world is divided into oppressors and the oppress.

00:56:04.040 So the classroom is where you train students to see everything through that lens. You're either

00:56:09.840 the oppressor or the oppressed. This is critical race theory, gender ideology, DEI, every other

00:56:16.820 oppressed versus oppressor framework that's taken over our corporations and our campuses comes from this.

00:56:26.120 The wake of the Hamas attack in Israel, October 7th, 23. Jonathan Haidt, one of the brilliant minds of

00:56:36.520 our day. He wrote an article called why antisemitism sprouted so quickly on campus. He says the students

00:56:43.080 have learned now a new morality. Let me read this to you to, to view everyone as either a oppressor or

00:56:49.080 a victim. Students were taught to use identity as the primary lens through which everything is to be

00:56:54.760 understood, not in their coursework, but in their personal and political lives. When students are taught

00:57:00.220 to use a single lens for everything, their education is harming them rather than improving their ability

00:57:05.640 to think critically. This is the new morality. This is what has driven our universities off a cliff

00:57:12.640 and it's about to run our country off a cliff if more people don't wake up because this is what fuels

00:57:20.120 the direct action in the streets. Now, I said last hour and I said last night on TV that I think,

00:57:30.120 I don't know if it's going to be this summer, but we are headed for real, you know, BLM riots all

00:57:36.720 across America on multiple fronts. It's coming. It's just coming. And it's coming from, I mean,

00:57:42.580 we've seen the political violence from the left, no matter what the mainstream media wants to tell you.

00:57:47.180 Oh no, that's, you know, we're worried about the white man and the extremists. Well, you know what?

00:57:51.240 I'm worried about everybody right now, quite honestly, but one side really has a track record and I don't

00:57:56.980 have to go back in the time machine to see it. Let me just give you a few. This is just off the top,

00:58:02.000 you know, of our heads as we sat around this morning. Ready? Baseball field attack on Republican

00:58:06.880 congressmen in 2017 by a Bernie Sanders supporter that almost killed Representative Steve Scalise.

00:58:13.700 He was out to kill all of the Republicans on the baseball diamond and we now know that our DOJ

00:58:20.220 covered it up because who was in charge? 2020 BLM riots, which caused at least a dozen deaths

00:58:28.380 and an all-time U.S. record of $2 billion in damages. The 2020 Antifa riots in Portland,

00:58:36.560 where the Department of Homeland Security spent $12 million just to protect the federal buildings

00:58:41.120 during weeks-long battle with rioters. At one point, the rioters barricaded federal offices

00:58:46.560 inside a courthouse and tried to set the building on fire. How about the 96 different crisis pregnancy

00:58:54.920 centers that were attacked since the Dobbs decision was overturned or overturned Roe versus Wade or the

00:59:01.940 hundreds of Catholic churches that have been vandalized with pro-abortion messages or the man

00:59:08.480 who was arrested with weapons, all kinds of stuff outside Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's house,

00:59:14.320 who claimed he was there to assassinate Kavanaugh because of the Dobbs decision.

00:59:19.000 Then there was the assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, last year.

00:59:24.420 The alleged killer held left-wing views and now the left has lionized him. He's a hero of the left.

00:59:32.060 You don't put that man up as a hero for your movement. You don't make him a hero unless you agree

00:59:37.840 with violence unless you believe no matter what ends justify the means. He's now a folk hero.

00:59:47.940 How about the burning of the Tesla dealerships and the cars? Last month, Pennsylvania Governor

00:59:54.280 Josh Shapiro's official residence was firebombed. The suspect allegedly set the governor's mansion on fire

01:00:00.060 because what? What? Because Shapiro, who is Jewish, what he wants to do to the Palestinian people.

01:00:08.400 Okay, wait a minute. So shooting last night, the fire there. Huh. Then, of course, there was the

01:00:13.080 assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life last year. Somehow, we still don't know the details

01:00:18.560 about the assassin's political views, but seems pretty unlikely that he was a conservative.

01:00:23.700 The pattern is very clear, and what's disturbing about this is it's getting worse after the election.

01:00:36.920 Okay? When these people talk about democracy, what they mean is communist-style people's revolution.

01:00:45.040 And I want to make sure you understand this. I'm not talking about the average Democrat that is your

01:00:48.820 neighbor. I don't believe they believe this stuff. I think they've been duped into believing

01:00:52.560 that, you know, through the hatred of Donald Trump. And they may have legitimate reasons for

01:00:57.380 not liking Donald Trump. Okay? I'm not going to argue with that. You might have legitimate reasons

01:01:01.360 for not liking him. But they have been so indoctrinated by the mainstream media. They've

01:01:07.700 only been given half of the story. And the half that they're giving, a lot of times, is out and out

01:01:13.420 lies. I mean, let's talk about the Biden stuff. Okay? And you've been indoctrinated to hate

01:01:20.760 Donald Trump, which stops you from looking at what your side is actually doing and the

01:01:25.700 coordination of it. And if you think that it's not coordination, well, let me just tell you

01:01:36.080 about the coalition of Democratic governors called Governors Safeguarding Democracy.

01:01:40.520 It is a group that is led by J.B. Pritzker, who is the Illinois governor, and Colorado's governor,

01:01:49.020 Jared Polis. This is a coordinated effort to defy President Trump's immigration policies

01:01:56.260 and to get some heavy hitters calling the shots. One day after Trump's second inauguration,

01:02:02.240 the group held a Zoom meeting led by none other than Norm Eisen. Who is that? He's the former White

01:02:11.860 House ethics czar. So funny. And a special counsel for Trump's first impeachment trial. He is also one

01:02:19.580 of the ringleaders of the current lawsuit campaign. He's laid this whole thing out. Now, their strategy

01:02:27.620 is laid out in a book called Governors Safeguarding Democracy, Firewall for Freedom. Now, it was

01:02:36.220 obtained through FOIA by the Daily Signal. Why isn't nobody talking? Why isn't anybody saying thank

01:02:43.540 you, Daily Signal? Why isn't anybody talking about this? Well, we know because the mainstream media

01:02:48.520 was never going to talk about this. The plan includes model executive orders for governors to use

01:02:55.800 in blocking National Guard deployments if they don't like them, and refuse state resources for

01:03:02.200 federal immigration enforcement. One draft order says that states shall provide no time, money,

01:03:09.240 or facilities for National Guard units deployed without the governor's approval. Another directs

01:03:14.840 state agencies to withhold information if they suspect it's being used for immigration actions.

01:03:20.840 So they are plotting government. And what exactly are they preparing to obstruct? What National Guard

01:03:30.300 deployments? What are you talking about? Well, Governor Pritzker said something in a speech that I

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01:04:58.340 So, is it just that they're going to use legal action? No. Now remember, Pritzker is one of

01:05:05.820 the guys leading this with Norm Eisen and everybody else. And I want you to listen to what he's

01:05:10.660 saying. He's not talking about the National Guard, and he's not talking about lawyers here.

01:05:13.940 Listen to what he said just a couple of weeks ago.

01:05:15.920 Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization,

01:05:20.840 for disruption. But I am now.

01:05:37.820 These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.

01:05:41.340 These people cannot know a moment of peace. That is a governor of one of our largest states.

01:05:53.760 This is what happens when the system churns out activists instead of thinkers. Violence is excused

01:05:59.320 as resistance. When governors weaponize their authority to defy the will of the American people.

01:06:05.000 Trump won in a clear 2024 mandate. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows Trump was elected for two

01:06:11.780 things. The economy and immigration. And I don't think in that order. But he won. And the left is

01:06:23.740 obsessed with their oppressor, oppressed worldview. They see only one path, and that is fight, disrupt,

01:06:28.980 and resist. We're not talking about just policy disagreements. This is a coordinated effort

01:06:33.580 to destabilize America rooted in decades of Marxist indoctrination. That's what's happening in America.

01:06:42.040 That's what's coming. And I want to take you to another story that Donald Trump did. It was amazing

01:06:48.280 in the Oval Office yesterday and show you what this leads to. Next.

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01:08:26.160 There's a lot on our plate, but let me, uh, let me start with South Africa and just a real quick,

01:08:48.840 uh, tutorial on this. Uh, here's a bit of a Prager University, uh, video on South Africa.

01:08:56.920 White South African farmers are being hunted from their land by black gangs. Fact. And I had a young

01:09:03.880 son at the time, and he would sometimes have nightmares about when the monsters would come,

01:09:07.900 you know, at nighttime. But in South Africa, that is when the gangs come and they work together and

01:09:13.080 they attack white farmers. And some of the things that happen to white farmers, we don't need to

01:09:17.280 talk about here, but the barbarity, it, it isn't just about burglary, which it gets filed away as.

01:09:23.100 This is torture. And the numbers of white farmers being killed is incredible. And because South

01:09:28.620 Africans have expropriation without compensation, which basically means we're taking your land.

01:09:34.240 So I went and slept on the farms to feel the fear. White people are, are denied treatment in

01:09:42.060 hospitals in South Africa. It's an extreme situation that no one will talk about.

01:09:46.480 Yeah. Uh, it's a really bad situation. The reason why I want to play that for you is because,

01:09:55.300 um, I believe there is genocide going on, but not to the numbers, uh, perhaps of what people think

01:10:01.660 of genocide. You know, CNN was like, there's only, you know, 1800 or 2000, uh, white farmers that have

01:10:07.480 been killed in the last few years. I'm like, Oh, that's it. Okay. Okay. So at least we, we know when,

01:10:12.640 when genocide, what genocide is not apparently under a couple thousand, um, genocide is a frame

01:10:18.300 of mind. You genocidal maniac. It is a frame of mind that I'm going to kill all of these people

01:10:24.000 for whatever reason, this group of people, I think they should all die. And if you take steps to do

01:10:30.200 that, that's genocide. You are trying to, uh, enact or help others enact genocide. Okay. Um,

01:10:40.380 we'll get back to South Africa and the, what I believe is the genocide, just not the way you frame

01:10:45.260 it, you know, 6 million Jews. It's not that. Um, but it is, it's anti-racism. That's what it is.

01:10:53.580 You, you can't just not be a racist. You have to be an anti-racist. You have to hate the oppressor.

01:11:00.720 You have to do whatever you have to do because the oppressor is the evil one and has to be stopped.

01:11:05.880 Um, this is what's happening, um, over in, um, is what's happening over in South Africa. And it is

01:11:15.620 a Marxist racist, uh, ideology and it is destroying South Africa. You know, you look at the 2000 white

01:11:24.220 farmers and I don't know if that number is entirely accurate, but around 2000, uh, white farmers that

01:11:29.720 have been killed. Um, okay. That that's a lot, but they had 27,000 murders in that, uh, in that

01:11:39.480 country. Now they're, they're a country of, uh, 60,000, 65,000. We're a nation of 350 million and we had

01:11:47.560 19,000 murders. Okay. So think of the fear that is, that's a country completely out of control. And some

01:11:55.160 of those were passions, uh, and crimes of passion. They were crimes of, uh, uh, of burglary. Perhaps

01:12:01.740 they were crimes, just senseless killing. And some of them were genocide. Okay. You don't dismiss

01:12:09.360 genocide and you don't dismiss a system that is producing 27,000 murders on average every single

01:12:19.800 year. This is what happens when a government, uh, starts to adopt all of the things that the left

01:12:28.760 wants us to adopt the anti-racist point of view, the let's not punish criminals, socialist, Marxist

01:12:39.800 ideals. Look at South Africa. That's what they want here. Now they might say they don't, but you know,

01:12:49.280 you can say, you know, uh, you know, uh, I'm going to, I'm going to put a bunch of bacon into my oven

01:12:55.680 because puppy dogs are going to pop out, but you'd believe whatever you want. You can say whatever

01:13:02.120 you want, but that's not what's going to happen. And I want you to look at the pattern here in America.

01:13:10.520 Okay. What are these? They are the left now is defending murderers, gang members. Why? Because

01:13:20.840 America is oppressive. They would rather have those guys returned safely. Uh, so they can, I don't know,

01:13:30.080 go through trial or, or live here happily or what? I don't know. They would rather have sanctuary cities

01:13:36.200 that protect those people than you. How does that? That's not a winning strategy for the next

01:13:45.160 campaign. It's just not, you know, um, going in and, and, and beating on police. I mean, just watch

01:13:51.820 the video. You could say whatever you want about MacGyver, but if you watch the video, you see

01:13:55.600 exactly what's going on. Okay. Um, she was assaulting police officers and then she was trying to play

01:14:03.400 victim. Cause remember, that's what you do on the left. You make the other person, the oppressor

01:14:07.960 and you're the oppressed. So you get all the sympathy and it's insane. And it's happening over

01:14:12.440 and over and over again. You had the two, two Jews last night gunned down in the streets of Washington.

01:14:20.680 Who were they? Pro Hamas, Marxist communist. Okay. Um, you have something else going on.

01:14:30.220 Um, you also have the investigation into who was covering up for Joe Biden, the auto pin today.

01:14:43.040 The news is we have, uh, a, listen to this, a high quote, high, high level democratic operative that

01:14:53.340 was involved in the campaign and involved with the white house that has come out now as a

01:14:59.560 confidential whistleblower to identify the three people that were not only guarding all of the

01:15:07.080 secrets and keeping people away from the president, which was bad enough. But this whistleblower now

01:15:12.360 says they were making money on the, uh, signature machine, the auto pin. Excuse me.

01:15:22.840 We now have a whistleblower saying that this is going to be turned over to the DOJ very soon.

01:15:29.720 You're going to see these, these three people tried and, and hopefully go to jail. If that evidence

01:15:35.780 is true. Um, today you also have a story about, um, the government knew we now have a new report

01:15:44.580 that is out after an investigation that the government knew about the vaccine side effects and the injuries

01:15:51.360 it could happen. And they actively covered it up. You're going to see people marched in hand. I think

01:15:58.000 within the next two weeks, you're going to see people marched in handcuffs because of that, the cover

01:16:04.000 up on the COVID you're going to see people marching in handcuffs because of what happened in the white

01:16:10.620 house and that cover up with the auto pen. You already saw MacGyver marching in handcuffs. So there's

01:16:19.260 two forces. This is what I want to tell you. There are two forces. One, the United States

01:16:23.900 government, which is now with the justice department and the FBI seem to be moving in

01:16:30.080 exactly the right direction. You have ice moving in the right direction and they are starting to enforce

01:16:37.980 the law.

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01:17:16.660 So what's that going to do to the other side?

01:17:19.920 The other side, these are Marxist, communists, anti-racist, radical revolutionaries. Make no

01:17:27.660 mistake, this is not your Democrat that you've known for years that lives next door. These are

01:17:32.680 radical revolutionary Marxists, communists, pro-sharia law people. They do not want to live

01:17:43.640 side by side by their neighbor. They do not want American justice to be restored. They're looking

01:17:48.560 for an entirely different kind of justice, the kind of justice that you're now finding in South

01:17:53.560 Africa. And I'm sorry, but I'm not going to, not on my watch, not on my watch. I don't think you're

01:18:03.080 going to stand for it either. But they're going to cause violence. What we have to do is in every

01:18:10.200 way possible support the institutions that are moving in the right direction. Nobody's perfect.

01:18:18.020 Nothing is perfect. And I don't trust any of the institutions right now. And I think George

01:18:25.260 Washington would applaud me for that. But that doesn't mean I want them all to go into a fiery

01:18:31.800 furnace. We have to have institutions that we can trust, or we have no civilization. You know,

01:18:38.720 Jonah Goldberg, you're pathetic. You're absolutely pathetic. He wrote something yesterday about how,

01:18:44.340 you know, me and Alex Jones are just, you know, all, you know, populist. And we're going to,

01:18:50.560 we're going to make sure that nobody believes in any institution. That is exactly the opposite of

01:18:55.420 what I'm saying. But we're, we're under attack voices like mine saying this, I'm under attack

01:19:02.360 because people must have division. I'm saying, do everything you can to stop dividing, do everything

01:19:10.760 you can. You've got to call, you've got to call a spade a spade. You've got to say that is evil.

01:19:15.180 That is good. That is black. That is white. You're a man. That's a woman. You have to do that.

01:19:22.260 But they're going to start to get more and more violent in the next year or two years. Maybe it

01:19:27.540 happens faster. And they're going to use everything they can. And they're going to also,

01:19:34.400 they'll get into bed with anything they can. Do you know that the, the push for, you know,

01:19:42.860 people standing up and, you know, protesting for these illegals that are being, do you know that

01:19:48.460 China's funding a lot of that? We just found that out today. You think they have a pro-American,

01:19:52.960 pro-freedom agenda? Nope. But these organizations won't care. They'll take that money. They don't care.

01:20:01.580 So we have to know who we are, what we believe. We have to know our constitution.

01:20:12.940 We have to teach it to our family. We have to stay calm, be leaders. And you're only leaders if

01:20:19.120 you're well-informed. Again, anybody who gets their news off of social media, the person who reads

01:20:26.380 nothing has a better education than the people who only read social media. Do not get your news

01:20:35.020 from social media. You can get a tip. You can say, oh, wow, that's it. But then go in and investigate

01:20:42.140 it. Don't go with the headlines. Don't believe social media. And as we saw yesterday, you know,

01:20:49.020 all the people who are saying that this is a conspiracy theory about the whites and the farmers

01:20:53.540 in South Africa, they're all the same people that told you there was nothing wrong with

01:20:58.160 Joe Biden. So you have to decide what side you're on. And I know what side you're on. And

01:21:08.600 you know, somebody came to me the other day. And they talked to me about you. And they said,

01:21:22.280 your audience, and they know because they deal with audiences all over the country. And they

01:21:30.320 said, your audience is different than any other audience in America. And I said, I know.

01:21:35.120 But how do you see it? And they described it exactly like I do.

01:21:46.260 You're the most honest, decent, kind, loving, true American that is not out for vengeance,

01:21:55.760 but out for the American values. You're the most polite. You still say, please, thank you. You still

01:22:04.040 hold doors open for people. You clean up after yourselves. You'll have a big event in a park or

01:22:10.240 something, and you'll clean up after yourself. There is no group of people, I think, that has

01:22:15.200 been assembled for a broadcast that is like this. And I am honored to serve you every day.

01:22:24.840 Truly honored to serve you every day.

01:22:26.760 Things are going to get much, much better. But it's going to be a hard slog because I don't think the

01:22:34.840 left is done. Because they're not doing anything here that would lead to re-election. They're not

01:22:42.540 uniting with the average American with these kinds of things. So what are they planning?

01:22:49.920 I think what all Marxist, anti-racist, communist, and revolutionaries plan for every time.

01:22:59.620 Street action. Back in just a minute.

01:23:04.040 If you think your dogs are not talking about you at the park, I mean, really, you should think again,

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01:23:18.020 And then your dog's, you know, the genius says, well, you know, I'm just well-fed, spoiled, you

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01:23:46.900 It doesn't smell any better, and you should stop that. Anyway, my, my owners, they feed me,

01:23:53.360 you know, regular dog food, and then they put rough greens on top. It's just a scoop,

01:23:56.660 and it's really, really yummy. I really, really like it, and it makes me run to my bowl every day,

01:24:00.260 and I have so much energy, and I'm ready to play, but I can see that you're ready to fall asleep,

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01:26:22.820 I want to lead by example and show you two things that you have to do in your life. One, I just told you

01:26:28.820 don't leave, don't read and believe social media. Go check it out for yourself. Well, there was a social media

01:26:33.940 post about Jonah Goldberg and I saw the name. I saw the post. I went, I read the article, did not look

01:26:40.820 at the byline because I thought it was Jonah Goldberg because that's what it said in social media or that's

01:26:45.580 what I believed I saw on social media and I jumped to that conclusion and so I do the second thing you

01:26:50.800 have to do and that is this. Admit when you're wrong. Fast. Immediately. Do not let any time pass.

01:26:58.380 Jonah, Jonah, I got that wrong. I broke my own rule and didn't fully understand what was going on.

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01:27:36.040 about you. All right, next, an amazing interview with Kelsey Grammer.

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01:31:08.400 terms. You know, people always say, here's a man that doesn't need an introduction, and then they go

01:31:12.940 on. I'm not going to. Kelsey Grammer is on with us. He has written a new book. And before I bring him

01:31:22.620 on, I just, I want to read what's on the back cover of his book, or, you know, the PR people

01:31:26.340 set up. On July 1st, 1975, Kelsey Grammer's younger sister, 18-year-old Karen Grammer, was raped and

01:31:32.400 murdered. In Karen, Kelsey reveals their past, celebrates their youth together, mourns her loss,

01:31:36.980 and unearths his struggle for faith and healing in the decades since her death. That is such

01:31:41.260 bullcrap if you've read the book. That is just, that's a PR person saying, it's almost like chat GPT.

01:31:48.020 Let me, before I bring him on, let me just show you what this book is in his own words in the book.

01:31:53.160 Recounting her history and the events that landmark her story is part of what's going on here, but

01:31:57.560 another part is how she continues in me, or how I've imprisoned her with my inability to let her go.

01:32:04.560 That idea haunts me. Recounting her funeral and the events of her death has made me realize how mad I

01:32:10.700 was at myself, how angry that that one thing that I'd always done, I didn't do. I felt unmasculated and

01:32:17.720 empty. All my big brother protector BS was just that. No, Karen. Karen, get back to Karen.

01:32:25.100 Okay, it's important to remember the tragedy of her death belongs to her.

01:32:28.640 Not entirely true, perhaps, because you see, I've often said that to dismiss my own feelings about

01:32:35.440 it. The tragedy belongs to her as if I have no right to view it as my tragedy, but it belongs to

01:32:39.760 me too. Her death belongs to her. The consequences belong to me and to the men who killed her and to

01:32:46.780 me because I couldn't stop them. I didn't stop them. That was my issue with it all and I felt like I had

01:32:53.400 failed her. Don't read the back cover. Read the book. It's called Karen by Kelsey Grammer. Kelsey, welcome to

01:33:01.120 the program. Thank you, Glenn. Thank you.

01:33:04.060 This is an amazingly powerful book. You want to tell a little bit of the story?

01:33:17.820 Yeah, sure. I deeply appreciate what you just read. What happened, it's 50 years ago, July 1st this

01:33:26.820 year. I have carried it with me for a long, long time and I probably would have continued to do that.

01:33:33.060 It was sort of having reached a kind of stalemate with the grief and remembrance that always sort

01:33:40.700 of favored the grief part. I was doing a channeling session with a woman who's kind of a famous medium

01:33:47.200 in some of the circles I travel. In the midst of the session, she said, oh, wait a minute, your sister

01:33:55.800 is saying that she wants you to tell her story.

01:34:02.760 And that was kind of a remarkable moment because I've delved into this world a bit, this sort of

01:34:07.800 mediumship world. I produced a show called Medium years ago and it's meant to be a healing art, I think,

01:34:14.820 but I'd never heard anyone say that. And I suddenly thought, that sounds authentic and real,

01:34:22.460 like Karen really is asking me to do this. And so I sat down about a month later. I waited a while

01:34:28.620 and I sat down and started to jot down some notes. And about eight or nine pages into it,

01:34:33.220 I suddenly realized I was writing a book about Karen, about my sister and about the life we'd lived

01:34:40.420 together and about the life that I'd lived since her time and the life I've lived with her always in

01:34:46.180 my mind. And so I came up with this book and this book is part spoken by Karen, part written by my

01:34:56.500 imagination and my recollection. And in a weird way, the writing itself became a kind of a channeling

01:35:02.020 event in my life where things came up in clarity that I'd forgotten that it was extraordinary. Time

01:35:10.340 just disappeared. And suddenly I was still holding my little sister's hand or taking her up a hill to

01:35:16.700 take a snow ride or a ride on a sled or we were out on a boat together and sitting in the hammock

01:35:23.700 together. And all these things became this sort of the world of the book and the world that was the

01:35:28.500 world I grew up in with Karen. And then the world, of course, that I was left with when she was gone.

01:35:33.300 We were extremely close. That was probably different than some brother-sister stories,

01:35:38.340 but you know, there's no one closer to you genetically than your brother or your sister.

01:35:41.860 You're identical, basically. Um, so it was a, it was a very important issue.

01:35:47.940 No, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, that was it. Um, you know, I, I was, I was taking it back. I wasn't

01:36:00.420 going to go here, but you brought it up. The medium thing I was taking it back and it made me think of

01:36:05.140 Harry Houdini after his, after his mother died, he became obsessed with the other side and trying to

01:36:12.900 reach. Uh, and then when he died, he said to his wife, you know, continue to try to find me. Uh,

01:36:19.780 and I will tell you, I will say the words best believe, uh, and she never heard that. Um, but

01:36:26.100 he was obsessed with that. You talk about Christ, you know, an amazing way. If I may quote, I think of

01:36:33.140 Christ, the world gave him so much hate. He gave them so much love. God bless him. God bless Karen.

01:36:38.980 God bless mom. God bless Evangeline Gam. My God, even his body distorted in the grimace of

01:36:45.060 inhumane torture. Jesus beseeched father, forgive them for they do not know what they do. Their hate

01:36:50.820 and their fear killed love. Imagine that. How could that happen? So you, you know, that was the one thing

01:36:57.060 that I, I wondered, um, you know, you, have you forgiven yourself really yet fully? Because I mean,

01:37:06.340 you're carrying around guilt that is not yours. And even if it was, you've got to find a way to let

01:37:12.000 it go. And that's the whole point of Christ. Have you, have you found that place yet?

01:37:18.320 Yeah. I mean, it did come, you know, but what's funny about life, you know, from,

01:37:23.380 from each morning you wake, uh, there may come a fresh spring of self-loathing or regret that, uh,

01:37:31.940 I know, indict you, you know, but of course Jesus is there to take it. You know, that's,

01:37:38.860 what's amazing in the book. I do, you know, I have this moment where I'm, I was just sitting on a plane

01:37:44.320 and I said, it was as if finally Jesus was sitting beside me saying, this one's mine. You've got to

01:37:51.980 let it go. I I'll take it. And of course I, uh, I still resist that because it's like,

01:37:59.980 it's sort of, I think, well, no, I'm a, I'm a man. I can handle this. I can take it. And you

01:38:04.280 know, there's just some things. And then Jesus finally said to me, he said, uh, uh, no, I got this.

01:38:10.900 I got this. It's why I came. And that really, that helps me a great deal. And of course,

01:38:18.200 it's so funny to the mediumship thing. I mean, I'm good. I'm going to deflect for a second.

01:38:22.560 The mediumship thing is, you know, is reviled by my buddy, Greg Laurie, who, you know, is sort of

01:38:27.940 the fundamental, you know, kind of evangelistic guy. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. But I've, I always,

01:38:34.020 I always point out to my friends from that particular quarter, um, that whole book about

01:38:39.640 revelation, you know, that is, that is channeled. I don't know, you know, gotten to terms with this,

01:38:46.660 but John sitting in that cave and stuff and all this information he got and talking with

01:38:51.580 Jesus. I mean, I guess it's okay in the Bible, but it's not okay anywhere else. I think this is

01:38:56.820 another sort of arrow in the quiver of God's quiver that you will get information from so many

01:39:05.580 different places. Be careful. Yeah. Because you know, the stinky one can come along for the ride

01:39:10.860 once in a while and sort of insinuate his way into, into what you hope is a healing message.

01:39:15.740 But, um, God's clarity is apparent in many places.

01:39:21.660 Let me take you to one of the more incredible parts of the book. I mean, your, your sister was

01:39:27.460 brutally murdered and raped. Um, and I wanted to, at one point in the book, you, um, you get the police

01:39:37.140 report, um, and you see the police report. And, um, I mean, it's deeply disturbing and you read it

01:39:45.380 cold. Um, and you, there's, if you may, if I may, I've spent more than a month away from writing

01:39:51.080 longer pause than I intended. There were some health concerns in the family and a trip abroad.

01:39:55.060 I had reached a crossroads a while back, Jim Bentley with the prosecutor's office in Colorado

01:40:00.440 Springs, sent me a copy of the files on Karen's death files of the investigation, the murder scene.

01:40:05.540 This is the record. It was sent with a warning. I want to caution you about the details you will

01:40:11.080 learn. If you read all the material I'm sending you, please consider having someone, you know,

01:40:15.540 and trust to review this information before you decide to read it yourself. There is no way to

01:40:20.440 unring the bell, uh, or perhaps have somebody else summarize the information might be an alternative to

01:40:26.900 reading it yourself, but you read it and you don't regret it. Tell me about that moment in that process.

01:40:34.440 Yeah. Um, it occurred to me in that moment that if it was something so painful, uh, why would I make

01:40:44.860 somebody else do it? That one was for me, that was meant for me to do. And of course, and I, then I

01:40:51.800 tried to cushion it when I, when I revealed some of the facts that I learned in the, in the police

01:40:56.160 report, I tried to make them a little more palatable to people. I described some things that were truly

01:41:02.460 horrible that, uh, Karen suffered that night, but, um, that was in order to kind of gain a sense of

01:41:09.080 credibility of, of, um, um, um, a credential of suffering that would, uh, other people who've been through

01:41:17.320 similar things would recognize and say to themselves, okay, he's, he's talking about what I know. He's

01:41:23.380 talking from the same place that we've been put in. And, uh, sorry, sorry, excuse me. Um, so that they

01:41:33.820 would be able to say that the advice I give is true. The, the, the, the, the longing that I've

01:41:39.440 experienced about, you know, missing my loved one is the same they've experienced. And so that my words

01:41:46.000 of, of comfort come from a place they would recognize you, um, it was what, what you pulled

01:41:57.280 out of that, if I may read the police report again, now and again, and after two months, I now

01:42:04.500 I'll find an uneasy comfort in these pages. I've spent so many years playing out these moments in

01:42:11.100 my imagination. Now I know the truth. There's no smidgen of relief. There's only clarity. It

01:42:18.300 is the place only imaginings of how she must have felt and thought and suffered during those

01:42:29.980 final hours of her life. Is that comfort that you now, you now know everything it's, is it

01:42:41.040 it's better. That was real. Yeah. That's, that's a real thing for me because I had so much

01:42:46.820 conjecture, you know, and I guess it's, I don't think, I don't think I'm special in this regard.

01:42:52.760 I mean, being an actor, I guess we, we spend a lot of our time coming up with, you know, excuses,

01:42:58.000 reasons, uh, justifications, understandings, things that, um, connect us to the motivation

01:43:03.800 of characters we're playing fantasies, basically. Um, so my mind has always been very fertile that

01:43:09.980 way. So everything that Karen went through, there was another component to it of what I imagined she

01:43:16.840 went through. So there was deep comfort in knowing truth finally. So many things that I'd supposed were

01:43:23.520 not the truth. And, uh, so that the comfort I read in the pages was simply that I now had

01:43:30.500 information that was accurate, that would help me keep the men who killed her in jail. Uh, but also it

01:43:36.700 was, it was the end to me coming up with stories that I hadn't thought of there. It was the end

01:43:43.120 of imaginings. It was, it was, so that was a comfort because I'd spent so much of my life

01:43:49.120 kind of wrestling with, Oh, I wonder what that was. I wonder if this happened or what she was doing

01:43:54.740 there. And I, by, by being able to track some of her footsteps and actually going and reliving some

01:44:00.700 of them, I was able to find a way into what Karen was really thinking that night, stuff like that

01:44:06.680 before. Why was she there? Why, why was she sitting behind the restaurant where she'd worked?

01:44:11.220 And I suddenly realized, Oh, she liked company. You know, that was a, that was a huge burden lifted

01:44:16.120 from me about how did she get there? I'd said, she walked there because she thought maybe, you know,

01:44:21.760 I'll go have a drink with a pal. And that, that reduced so much of what I, my anxiety about it

01:44:27.220 to assemble the remembrance of who Karen was. Karen was great company. She was a wonderful

01:44:32.300 person to spend some time with. And to remember that was more important than, you know, any of

01:44:37.320 the horrors in a weird way. Um, the horrors about, but I'd imagined were just as horrible or even

01:44:44.560 what actually happened was worse than I'd imagined in many ways. But, um, to know the truth did set me

01:44:52.880 free, which is, you know, biblical. Yeah. The truth does that. It can make you miserable at first,

01:45:00.240 but it will set you free. Um, uh, move this, the commercial break. I'm not going to break for a

01:45:05.980 commercial, but I do have to give a 10 second, uh, network station ID. We pause for 10 seconds.

01:45:22.880 Okay. Back with, uh, Kelsey grammar. Um, you know, uh, can I ask you is some of, I read, uh, a quote

01:45:35.200 from somebody, I don't remember who said it, but they said, you die twice. First, when you stop

01:45:40.980 breathing and second, when somebody mentions your name for the very last time is that kind of thinking

01:45:48.120 play a role in that great, uh, did that kind of thinking play a role with you at all in,

01:45:54.280 in holding onto her and speaking her name and making sure she was a part of your life?

01:46:00.840 Yeah. I mean, I'm, uh, I discovered, I discussed it in the book. I mean, the word remember is my

01:46:05.960 favorite word because it is, if you break it off after the R E, right. And put a little hyphen in

01:46:11.380 there. Remembering means you're a member again. You are, you are a member of society and you

01:46:17.120 are brought back to life in every moment that you're remembered. And so that's why I think

01:46:23.380 it's important. And that's why it's one of the reasons I wrote the book, but, uh, I hadn't

01:46:27.260 thought of that, but what's nice is when people call or, or text me and say, I just finished the

01:46:33.180 book. I know your sister, Karen. Now it's just great to see her name written that way. It's great

01:46:37.980 to hear her say her name as though she's alive today. And that, that makes all the difference.

01:46:43.860 Um, you, you talk about justice, uh, in the book and you're really, I mean, you're very

01:46:51.560 raw. You want to see your, uh, sister's murderers rot in jail. Um, and in fact, I think at one

01:46:57.420 point you say, uh, you know, if I had the opportunity, I would have killed them and I still probably

01:47:02.960 would kill them. Um, and I don't, I don't blame you. I mean, it's really honest and raw, but

01:47:08.440 our culture, um, uh, emphasizes and maybe overemphasizes at times compassion over justice.

01:47:16.780 Um, but both justice and compassion come from God and there's a careful balance in there.

01:47:22.800 Um, how do we balance that? Do you think you found the balance?

01:47:26.980 If I were to, you know, sort of assign where that sentiment has arisen, I think it's because

01:47:35.740 we've kind of lost touch with God as a society in many ways. I think, I think there was a bit

01:47:41.360 of a comeback going on right now, which I'm enjoying and I hope the rest of the country

01:47:45.280 is, um, but, um, government is flawed. And of course, you know, judgment within the confines

01:47:55.720 of, of our government today. And then we land our, in our courts. I mean, of course, you'd

01:48:00.040 know that there've been some people who've gone to jail who shouldn't have, but there

01:48:04.000 are those, you know, remarkably sort of landmark cases, right? No question. This guy should

01:48:09.000 stay in jail. Um, the, the, the prevalence right now of, um, people saying, well, you know,

01:48:17.140 maybe it's been long enough, that kind of stuff. It's, you know, yes, I get that there,

01:48:21.500 that there is a component of what justice and compassion might actually be when they're

01:48:25.700 twinned. But, um, this, this guy is, um, past that beyond that and, and needs to remain

01:48:34.020 in jail. And it's just, we need, we need to have the courage to say, well, the consequences

01:48:39.720 do have, uh, their place in our society. And then the free ride thing, which is what's becoming

01:48:45.760 very popular right now, or the skate aspect of, of, uh, justice is, is not, it's not prudent.

01:48:53.400 Um, Kelsey, I, I mean, just so he doesn't die his second death, I just want to say George

01:48:59.980 went, uh, today, Norm on cheers. He passed away this week. I'd love to talk to you about

01:49:05.600 that, but we're out of time. I've only got about 45 seconds. I would, I would love to

01:49:10.380 talk to you in a longer form at some point, but I just have to tell you, I watched the

01:49:15.620 new Frasier. You have created the funniest character that is so long run. Now. Um, the

01:49:23.920 characters on your show are so brilliant. Every single one of them in this new version

01:49:28.800 of, of Frasier. Uh, it is the funniest show, the best well-written show on television. And

01:49:35.740 thank you for all of the laughs that me and my family have watching Frasier over the years

01:49:41.160 from cheers all the way to the latest, but thank you so much for all of the laughs. You're

01:49:45.320 very, thank you. You're great. You're a treasure. Thanks Kelsey. I appreciate it. I feel the same

01:49:50.100 about you. Thank you. Thanks man. Kelsey, Kelsey Grammer. Um, if you haven't seen his, um, you

01:49:56.640 haven't seen his show, I don't remember what network it's on now, but it's fantastic. But,

01:50:00.660 uh, you should read if, especially if you've lost somebody, uh, Karen, a brother remembers

01:50:06.820 the way he has dealt with things, uh, and let things go.

01:50:20.560 This is Glenn Beck.

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01:53:36.180 So we just had, uh, Kelsey Grammer on and, uh, wow. Wow. Yeah. Was that an amazing interview?

01:53:44.960 I had no idea that story even existed. I didn't know that happened in his life. I didn't know

01:53:49.620 any of that. And to hear him reacting to it and how he's had to deal with it for 50 years,

01:53:55.160 uh, it was riveting. He, he's, he was, he left home the same time she left home and, uh, and he

01:54:03.840 goes to the Juilliard and he's, you know, doing stuff at the Juilliard. I think he gets, I think he

01:54:09.940 gets kicked out or something, he fails or something, something happens at Juilliard and, um, uh, and,

01:54:15.820 and she's killed. And he's like, what, what, what, what, what, where's the big brother? What was I

01:54:21.300 doing? Um, I mean, it's, it's, it's an amazing story. And the, what did he call it? The clairvoyant

01:54:27.580 shift, uh, as some, as a, as a national radio broadcaster, uh, I was glad that he said that

01:54:36.160 three times and I wasn't sure the first two times that there was a T at the end of that.

01:54:40.640 Um, but, uh, or, you know, an F T, um, yeah. It gave me a little bit of a heartbeat skip as well.

01:54:48.420 Yes. Yeah. A little, little heartbeat, but, um, I wish I just found that odd. I just, I really felt

01:54:54.560 because he does talk about Jesus and redemption and everything else. Um, and he just has a different

01:55:00.220 look on, you know, clairvoyance. I mean, I do believe that you can get messages. Uh, I do

01:55:06.780 believe God talks to all of us. You know, I don't know if anybody can talk to somebody for you. I

01:55:14.020 don't think that habit, but maybe, I don't know. I really don't know how God works. Um, but as he

01:55:19.600 said, you know, you get into some scary stuff because, uh, you know, the dark side can take over

01:55:23.840 quite easily. You believe in any of that stuff, clairvoyance that are charging money for it?

01:55:30.220 Yeah, no, I'm certainly not something that I engage in. Uh, not my thing. I'm, you know,

01:55:35.240 much more boring than believing in a lot of that stuff, but I do, you know, again,

01:55:39.080 everyone has a different, but the mysterious ways thing, I think pops into mind a little bit at

01:55:43.760 times when you're dealing with this. I, who knows? Cause I mean, I hear people all the time saying

01:55:47.900 they're hearing stuff from God, you know, pastors and, you know, people who, who have, you know,

01:55:54.040 uh, you know, not even going into the clairvoyance world, but into just, you know, and I,

01:55:58.060 you know, again, I think everyone has that different relationship.

01:56:00.040 That's, you know, that's not the way that I necessarily, uh, you know, have a, have a

01:56:03.840 relationship with God.

01:56:06.040 So, um, let me switch gears. If you missed that interview, you should really listen. It's

01:56:09.700 amazing. Um, but, uh, they passed the big, beautiful bill, uh, last night. I haven't had

01:56:14.620 a chance to ask you what you're actually this morning at about six o'clock. Um, what was, uh,

01:56:19.560 what's your take on the big, beautiful bills too?

01:56:22.200 It's interesting that it's, you know, there is a lot of good in it. Um, it is gigantic.

01:56:26.540 So there is also a lot of bad in it. It's not a, I don't think it's a massive win in a lot of ways,

01:56:33.440 especially because one of the biggest things it accomplishes is essentially reinstating

01:56:38.240 Trump's 2017 tax cut that expiring would have been horrible for the economy. So it is a big win,

01:56:46.300 but in a way to us, because it's just continuing current policy, I don't think it's going to feel

01:56:50.580 like that. Um, you know, looking at the way it broke down, we broke down all the different groups

01:56:55.060 that were fighting against this. And it is interesting to see, we talked about this precise

01:56:59.700 thing. You can either go in there and say, Hey, here's a little giveaway to you. Here's a little

01:57:04.920 giveaway to you. Here's a little giveaway to you. Here's the thing that you want and try to make all

01:57:09.020 of these groups kind of come along, but that's difficult because each group has competing interests

01:57:13.840 at times. And then the other approach, uh, is Trump can come in and say, do it and beat everybody

01:57:21.900 bloody. Yes. And that's exactly what happened. He said it would be the ultimate betrayal if the people

01:57:26.360 voted against it. And when he said that along with a bunch of the giveaways and, and, uh, you know,

01:57:32.180 different amendments they did at the end wound up getting it across the finish line with, I believe

01:57:35.820 only two Republican, no votes. And I believe also two, uh, present votes.

01:57:42.060 So here's what I, here's one thing I, I want to point out. Um, there is $1.7 trillion in cuts

01:57:50.600 there, but that's not real. They do, you know, when they pass this, it doesn't mean those cuts go

01:57:56.160 in. They now, I don't understand the procedure, but they now have to go back and Congress needs to

01:58:01.720 say, okay, we're activating the cuts. So there's another step to that. So it's in the bill. If Congress

01:58:10.280 will do it, that's really good. Uh, one seven in cuts would be great. It's still anywhere between

01:58:17.680 three to $5 trillion, uh, over the next, what, 10 years in debt. I think they said, um, and you

01:58:28.340 know, that's not good. And I think that's why our treasury bills had a really, very bad day. Uh, you

01:58:32.860 know, it's selling, Hey, it wants to buy our debt. And everybody's like, I don't want to, I don't hear

01:58:36.680 anybody. There's nobody in this room. Is there, I mean, nobody wanted to buy them yesterday. That's

01:58:40.580 going to be very, very bad. So how I interpret all of this is the clock is on. Donald Trump

01:58:46.860 knows he, his theory is grow your way out of the debt. I believe grow and cut your way out

01:58:54.580 of the debt. But his point here is you can't grow your way out of the debt because, uh, you

01:59:01.540 can't cut your way out of the debt. You have to grow your way. But if you're cutting, the

01:59:06.380 government is so intertwined with everything right now. They've, they've given so much

01:59:11.740 money to everything that it's, you know, what is it now? Like 35% or 40% of our economy is

01:59:18.140 the government. And so he's like, if you cut that too drastically, too fast, you will cut

01:59:22.700 growth. You'll have job, you know, job reports that are bad, et cetera, et cetera. He's trying

01:59:28.380 to spur on, um, entrepreneurial, uh, spirit because that's the ones who actually create

01:59:34.960 jobs are the entrepreneurs in bad times. 80% of jobs come from small businesses. So now

01:59:41.980 we have to see them putting the pedal to the metal to cut the regulation, especially for

01:59:47.160 small business owners. So these small business owners can get to work. They have the tax cut

01:59:52.840 now give them the regulation relief. Um, and that would be, that would be tremendous, but

01:59:58.580 a clock started this morning when they pass this bill. Um, and I guess it has to go to

02:00:04.200 the Senate, right? But they're expecting it to pass today or tomorrow, right?

02:00:07.760 I don't know. I mean, the Senate again is going to definitely change a bunch of stuff and then

02:00:12.060 it's going to have to come back together again with the house. And there's a long road here.

02:00:15.900 They may get it across. The Senate is a little more resistant to Trump saying, Hey, you know,

02:00:20.660 just do this, um, then the house is, uh, but I, you would think they're going to get something

02:00:26.280 across the finish line eventually just God knows what it looks like. They, I mean, they're really

02:00:30.980 pushing and hats off to Congress this week. You know, you could have done this long ago, but

02:00:35.040 hats off to Congress. They are saying they want to finish it by this weekend. Um, and that would

02:00:40.260 be important for the country, but once, you know, it, the clock has already started cause it looks

02:00:45.080 like it's going to pass this budget, which adds to our debt. Um, and, uh, that's just going to start

02:00:51.520 the clock. You know, it's, it's a race to the finish is the dollar going to lose value and our

02:00:57.920 debt going to keep going up at such a rate that nobody wants to buy our bonds anymore. So we can't

02:01:02.900 finance and we're paying out of control interest rates, or is that happening? And we're balancing it

02:01:09.860 out because the entrepreneur and the small businessman is growing at such a rate of speed that the

02:01:14.700 economy is producing more taxpayers. Um, but that is, boy, I've never seen, I've never seen anything

02:01:22.080 this close to the edge. It's a, it's a little terrifying. Yeah. And there's a lot of stuff in

02:01:26.440 there that, you know, look, you know, we wouldn't like, I mean, you know, a good chunk of the

02:01:32.120 inflation reduction act, green new deal style. I was going to say call it left in there. I mean,

02:01:37.200 you know, I know, but again, you know, this is just what I guess they feel like they have to do.

02:01:42.980 I, as we said, it is difficult to get these things over the finish line with these small

02:01:46.820 majorities. And you had, you had some, some Republicans that didn't like the bill, just

02:01:51.860 not show up at all. Some of them just voted president. A couple of no's Thomas Massey,

02:01:56.340 I know was one of them. Um, you know, I, there's a massive problems with the bill, but you know,

02:02:02.360 again, Donald Trump wanted a deal and you know, this is kind of what he goes after. I don't think

02:02:06.260 he cares about every individual part of this. He wants to get something, the big stuff over the finish

02:02:10.860 line. And I think that's where he is. Um, I want to talk about something else. Um,

02:02:15.700 and I think we disagree on this. Uh, there's a new report out that shows that, uh, members,

02:02:21.880 I think it's of the NIH, um, hid and then, uh, and then tried to cover up the fact that they knew,

02:02:30.980 uh, that there were a real bad side effects to the vaccines. And, um, this is now documents have

02:02:39.780 been produced that show that they knew it in advance and they covered it up. And I personally

02:02:45.600 think these people are going to jail. I think the DOJ is, is going to prosecute them. I think

02:02:50.380 you're going to see, I think you're going to see handcuffs on COVID in the next couple of weeks,

02:02:56.040 but you don't agree with that, do you? I will be surprised if you see, I mean, maybe there could

02:03:01.360 be some, um, I mean, it's not impossible. I haven't seen every single allegation against each

02:03:06.060 individual person. I'll be surprised though, if, if the Trump DOJ is going to go, um, you know,

02:03:12.400 after, uh, you know, again, this is a vaccine that was Trump bragged about as one of his central

02:03:19.320 accomplishments of his first term. Um, so I don't know that he's going to see the results the same

02:03:25.160 way. Now, if you have somebody who's lying, like we've seen some people lying. We're talking about

02:03:29.460 coverup. Yeah. I mean, but inside of that coverup is, is, is the, um, the, uh, uh, view that the

02:03:38.500 vaccine is incredibly dangerous to people, which is, does not seem to be a position that Donald Trump

02:03:44.580 holds. Now, of course, in theory, he's not micromanaging every single thing that the DOJ

02:03:49.220 does, but I mean, I think they also do have a sense as to what his views are on a lot of these

02:03:54.180 matters. So we'll see. I mean, you might be right on it. I wouldn't be completely shocked.

02:03:58.080 There certainly are people in and around this apparatus that have done things. We've seen the

02:04:02.780 emails around Fauci, for example, that I think are absolutely blatant crimes. So some of this could

02:04:08.900 happen, but I, I, I don't know. I, I, I, if you're going to say, uh, over under, um, arrests for,

02:04:15.380 for vaccines, killing people in the next few weeks, two and a half, I, I, I take the under.

02:04:21.760 Uh, okay. Let me, um, there's, there's a couple of other stories. We've talked about the, is, uh,

02:04:28.020 the Israeli diplomats that were shot and killed by a guy from Chicago who was a, literally a Marxist

02:04:33.420 communist, uh, radical that, uh, was, you know, free Palestine. Um, and that guy is in jail and,

02:04:42.420 um, he's going to be tried, I think in Washington DC, which doesn't make me feel real good. Uh, but

02:04:47.520 there's also, and this, this is another huge story. I think we now apparently have a whistleblower

02:04:53.300 who is a very high, this a quote, high, high level, uh, Democrat party member that is involved

02:05:03.180 at the highest levels. And he has come out or she has come out as a whistleblower on three people in

02:05:10.200 the white house that this whistleblower says was not only involved in, uh, hiding all of the

02:05:17.600 conditions, but also they were, um, profiting off of the auto pin. If that is true, you're going to

02:05:28.860 see handcuffs on that as well, which would be really good for the Republic. Really good. And

02:05:34.320 congratulations to the, the democratic operative, if you will, the, the high level Democrat. Of

02:05:41.140 course, they did say, uh, Susan Rice, they said is the reporter said, is Susan Rice involved at all?

02:05:46.600 He's like, no, definitely not Susan Rice. Definitely not. Which makes me think it was Susan Rice. That

02:05:52.380 was like, you know, wearing a mustache. No, definitely not. Not Susan Rice. She's a great one. I don't know,

02:05:57.940 but, uh, uh, we'll have to see where this goes, but I think those are two really big pieces, um,

02:06:06.900 uh, that are really important that showed the direction of the DOJ and the FBI, uh, you know,

02:06:12.680 in a week where we, you know, we looked at the DOJ and the FBI at the beginning of the week and like,

02:06:17.800 uh, wait a minute. Now you're starting to see some other things that say, well, we'll wait, hold,

02:06:22.460 hold on now. Let's see them in handcuffs, but I think they're coming. All right.

02:06:27.940 Remember that guy in the eighties who, uh, who walked around, you know, with a cell phone,

02:06:32.100 the size of a dog crate, you know, wearing the suit with the shoulder pads and hair sprayed

02:06:36.300 into a helmet, yelling into his giant plastic brick with an antenna that could pick up radio

02:06:41.300 signals from Jupiter. Yeah. That guy, you ever wonder how, what his monthly phone bill ever looked

02:06:46.200 like, you know, somewhere between a second mortgage and a luxury sedan, I think. And here's the, um,

02:06:52.220 here's the kicker. Um, probably even back then, part of that bill was going to companies

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