The Glenn Beck Program - 2020 Vice Presidential Debate： Special Coverage

00:00:00.000 Holy cow. I don't know about you, but I didn't feel comfortable with just the plexiglass.

00:00:05.780 So I have been sealed in our isolation chamber. And I, of course, have been wearing the mask.

00:00:10.500 But now that the debate is over, I think it's safe enough to come on out and talk a little bit about the most important debate in the history of the world.

00:00:23.000 We've got some great guests, including Don Jr., joining us in just a minute.

00:00:30.000 Hello, America, and welcome to Blaze TV's coverage of the vice presidential debate.

00:00:44.700 My commentary, I'm going to give you just a few highlights.

00:00:49.460 And we have Don Jr. going to be joining us from Dallas in just a minute.

00:00:54.400 Also, Dave Rubin. Oh, Don's ready to go.

00:00:58.940 I thought we would have to stall for a few minutes, but he's ready to go.

00:01:02.800 Donald Trump Jr., before I say anything, let me get your reaction. What do you think?

00:01:10.960 I bet he just destroyed her and he did it with a smile on his face.

00:01:15.680 He had an answer for everything. He called out the lies when it was appropriate.

00:01:20.880 He kept his cool. He pointed out the cold, hard facts of Joe Biden's failed 47 years in the Washington, D.C. swamp.

00:01:31.160 He called out Kamala Harris's disastrous uber-leftist record in the Senate and the disaster that that would mean for the American people.

00:01:40.040 And he did it with a smile on his face.

00:01:42.360 And you could see just the cringe on that just the least authentic person in probably American politics, if not just America, period, Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:01:51.240 And she's just getting destroyed by by this guy who just did it in the nicest possible way.

00:01:57.080 It was amazing.

00:01:57.580 I will tell you, she is in a very short burst.

00:02:02.480 She seems likable.

00:02:04.000 But the longer you watch her, the more unlikable.

00:02:08.180 If if I saw her one more time, say, I'm speaking, I'm speaking.

00:02:14.420 Yeah, she tries. 1.00

00:02:15.460 She tries to do the like I'm cute thing, but she overplays it.

00:02:19.220 You know, it's sort of like the fake laugh when she laughs for no reason and you have that cackle when she's laughing at something that's not a joke that only she finds funny that no one else is in on.

00:02:31.320 I mean, there's really like there's a failure of personality there that's truly sad.

00:02:35.220 It's sort of embarrassing to watch.

00:02:36.940 And, you know, I think a lot of that was present tonight.

00:02:39.860 But I think more importantly, her refusal to answer real issues, her, you know, the gibberish she gave us about what they would do about China and holding them accountable and just dismal record in China where he sent American jobs abroad for decades.

00:02:54.720 The fact that she wouldn't answer the question about stacking courts, which obviously means that's totally their plan.

00:03:00.920 They're just not going to say it because it would be negative for them.

00:03:03.520 But if they don't give an answer, at least then when they do it, they can say it's not a lie.

00:03:08.840 So, you know, I think all of that has been exposed and the hypocrisy of the Democrat Party has been exposed.

00:03:15.540 And honestly, I think she was just a charitable choice for BP.

00:03:18.020 And tonight's performance shows just that.

00:03:20.280 Yeah, well, Mike Pence did, I thought, an exceptional job holding her feet to the fire and still being kind and gentlemanly in his responses.

00:03:33.480 I will tell you the the thing that I liked about Mike Pence, and I thought she did a horrible job on this, was the economy.

00:03:45.580 There was just no credibility coming from.

00:03:51.080 And I wanted Pence to say I want somebody to say, you guys said this is as good as it's ever going to get.

00:03:59.900 We could never create any more jobs.

00:04:02.680 You mocked Donald Trump for saying he was going to create.

00:04:06.620 You said it was impossible.

00:04:08.020 Oh, now we're expecting you to grow it.

00:04:12.980 There's no magic wand for that.

00:04:14.940 Obama.

00:04:15.400 Oh, he did say that.

00:04:16.540 That was their plan.

00:04:17.800 There's so he actually brought it up.

00:04:19.880 Mike Pence definitely brought it up.

00:04:21.680 But, you know, that's the problem.

00:04:23.360 You know, the media will say, oh, you know, they did a great job growing jobs.

00:04:27.200 They inherited.

00:04:28.320 They got an economy as it would just started an uptick from one of the biggest recessions we've seen.

00:04:32.700 A monkey doing nothing would have seen growth that they saw.

00:04:37.040 You know, it didn't take anything to actually see growth.

00:04:39.760 But if their economy was so good and they claimed it was for eight years because of their policies, how come Donald Trump was able to make it skyrocket the second he took over?

00:04:48.900 I mean, literally on November 9th, 2016, before he even took office.

00:04:53.240 But when America knew that Donald Trump had won, when small business and big business alike realized that the person in the White House for the next four years would not be anti-business, would not be for excessive regulation, would not be for excessive taxation, that's when the market started skyrocketing.

00:05:10.860 I mean, Obama gets credit for sort of the period between the election day and when my father took office at the inauguration.

00:05:17.120 But consumer confidence went through the roof.

00:05:19.200 It was like 1,500 points in the market because they finally knew they wouldn't have an enemy in the White House.

00:05:26.500 I want to play something.

00:05:27.880 Kamala Harris said repeatedly that they would not end fracking.

00:05:35.500 But I want to play something from Joe Biden, July 31st, 2019, the Democratic primary debate.

00:05:45.040 Watch.

00:05:45.880 You have it?

00:05:46.300 I don't see it, but I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:05:49.200 So he says there is no place for any fossil fuels in a Biden administration.

00:05:57.020 He was very, very clear.

00:06:00.200 As Vice President Pence pointed out, it's on their website.

00:06:06.460 The Green New Deal is on their website.

00:06:10.080 Yeah, it's one of her number one points.

00:06:12.020 It's one of his number one points.

00:06:13.540 But that's the problem, Glenn.

00:06:15.060 That's sort of what we're up against.

00:06:16.660 The mainstream media knows that. 0.89

00:06:18.580 They're not as stupid as they seem that they would neglect point number one or point number two of his actual platform on his actual website. 0.72

00:06:27.620 They just know that highlighting it to the people of Pennsylvania, to the people of Ohio and Michigan and Oklahoma and Texas and places all over the country where that is a huge boost for the economy, where that creates lots and lots, thousands and thousands of good paying jobs. 0.95

00:06:44.220 They know it would be a dissimilar to the people of Pennsylvania and say that he's not against it, even though it's part of his platform.

00:06:53.060 They will let him have both sides of every argument.

00:06:55.760 I put up a tweet about it literally during the debate because there are not just one example.

00:07:00.200 There are literally countless examples beyond what's on his actual website, beyond what's on his platform, where he's literally reassuring people that he's ending this stuff immediately.

00:07:09.820 What does your dad have to do next week?

00:07:14.720 And do you think Joe Biden is going to show up or is he going to use COVID as an excuse?

00:07:21.420 I don't know.

00:07:22.520 I think we've got to be able to have a debate where Joe Biden doesn't get to just spew lies for hours talking about fake records.

00:07:29.800 I mean, they continue to bring up the Charlottesville hoax.

00:07:32.140 Other than the nonsense with Russia collusion, it's literally probably the number two hoax ever perpetrated on the American people as well as gospel. 0.93

00:07:39.820 The media runs it.

00:07:41.060 You saw it brought up numerous times last week.

00:07:43.040 You saw it brought up numerous times.

00:07:44.460 You know, literally, they get to say that the week after my father literally signed an executive order declaring the KKK is a domestic terror organization.

00:07:53.820 But they can run with this stuff.

00:07:55.320 And that's, again, the deficit that we face is we don't have the luxury or the benefit of having a mainstream media that will function as our marketing department.

00:08:03.240 That will sort of, you know, pretend we didn't do the, you know, just pretend that this is the case.

00:08:09.100 Allow us to get away with anything.

00:08:10.780 We get back check.

00:08:11.940 They don't.

00:08:13.180 Anyone decent, whether it was talking about, you know, Joe Biden and his COVID response, whether the idea of keeping travel open from China, whether it's disastrous policies as it relates to China.

00:08:23.440 On a trade perspective, whether it's the disastrous handling of Joe Biden of swine flu back in 2009, where even Joe Biden's own head guy, because Joe Biden had a similar role that Mike Pence in leading the response said, man, we basically got lucky because it was a disastrous response.

00:08:39.440 We did everything wrong.

00:08:41.160 And by the way, they forgot to replenish the PPD after it was over.

00:08:45.080 No one talks about it, just like they don't talk about Hunter Biden and millions of dollars from China and millions from the Ukraine and millions from a Putin associate in Moscow.

00:08:54.760 You know, that's OK.

00:08:56.420 They get a pass for that.

00:08:58.080 The stuff that they dreamed for years that I was doing, Hunter Biden was actually doing.

00:09:03.140 And now that the collusion is on the other foot, no one wants to know anything.

00:09:06.900 But this is what we're up against.

00:09:08.660 And that's why it's so important for the American people to see it.

00:09:11.420 So but that's difficult because as I was watching this, I was trying to watch this as a low information voter.

00:09:19.440 Somebody who's just watched CNN, MSNBC generally votes for a Democrat, but doesn't really pay attention.

00:09:28.200 They're not seeing any of the facts.

00:09:31.880 How does your father break through?

00:09:36.000 Because they probably weren't watching tonight.

00:09:38.900 How does he break through?

00:09:41.160 I think he has to try with those facts and let them try to contest it later on.

00:09:44.760 And that's our job to be on the ground, actually bringing that message to the American people.

00:09:48.620 I mean, that's why I spend my days literally for the last few months traveling the country, averaging four or five states a day.

00:09:54.840 Because, again, we don't have anyone that's going to campaign for us like Joe Biden does.

00:09:59.480 He has the media that will campaign for him.

00:10:01.140 He doesn't have to leave the basement of Delaware.

00:10:02.720 But for once every couple of days, we don't have that luxury.

00:10:06.420 We actually have to get out there and spread that message that we need our people to organically reach out to their friends, make sure they understand what's at stake.

00:10:13.260 Make sure they're getting the true picture of the disastrous policies that would be the radical left agenda that is the Biden-Harris administration, or as Kamala and Joe both referred to it as the Harris-Biden administration.

00:10:25.720 I don't know what it feels like to be you and your family.

00:10:32.500 I wouldn't trust a single person outside of my own family.

00:10:40.840 I said today on radio, and I'd like to see if I was even close to accurate.

00:10:49.300 They said that this declassifying of this material was the October surprise.

00:10:55.220 And I said, I don't think that was the October surprise.

00:10:58.460 I don't think that was intended as the planned as the October surprise.

00:11:02.380 I think Donald Trump was pissed that nobody is doing anything about this.

00:11:09.400 All of this information is there, and he just trusts the American people, and he just said, screw all of you.

00:11:17.020 Release it.

00:11:18.080 Release it and unredacted so the American people can see it.

00:11:23.240 Was I right?

00:11:24.660 You know, I agree.

00:11:26.360 You know, I haven't spoken to him specifically about it.

00:11:28.360 I think he's been talking about it for a long time.

00:11:30.100 And, you know, the reality is this.

00:11:31.440 You see that from the upper echelon of the FBI and the CIA, and they're trying to pretend that there's some sort of magical trade secrets.

00:11:38.420 The trade secret is that they were all in on it, Glenn.

00:11:41.360 The trade secret is that they all knew, and they did it on purpose.

00:11:45.280 Is anyone in the world dumb enough to think that 27 high-level lawyers and prosecutors at the FBI all magically deleted their cell phones by accidentally typing in the wrong password 15 times? 1.00

00:12:01.120 No one's that stupid. 0.95

00:12:02.520 You know, it is truly a sad state of affairs, though, when you have a country like the United States of America in the year 2020, when no one in the supposed free press has any interest in even finding out the truth now. 0.99

00:12:16.860 They're actually rallying against transparency.

00:12:20.100 They're rallying against transparency.

00:12:21.660 You would think transparency is sort of part of their job description, but they're rallying against it because they know it hurts the Democrats who are in on it.

00:12:30.040 They know it hurts these corrupted, criminal bureaucrats at the upper echelon of our intelligence community and our law enforcement community and the FBI.

00:12:39.320 This stuff would never fly.

00:12:40.840 If George W. Bush did this to incoming President Barack Obama, this would make Watergate look like a minor blip in American history.

00:12:49.340 It does, and they tried to say, the question was, when did the president know and when did he know it?

00:12:58.180 Or what did he know and when did he know it?

00:13:00.020 That was the mantra during Nixon.

00:13:02.280 We now have evidence and documents in their own handwriting that the president of the United States and Joe Biden knew about this, actually orchestrated this, this hoax with Hillary Clinton and the help of our intelligence agencies.

00:13:23.600 And again, no one does anything.

00:13:26.000 If the president is reelected, are we going to see people going to jail for this?

00:13:32.640 Because we don't have a republic.

00:13:34.960 I sure hope so.

00:13:36.260 You know, that's the problem is, you know, when they're like, well, it's your DOJ.

00:13:38.860 Well, you can appoint someone to run it at the top.

00:13:40.540 But if the underlings are all Obama holders and they're still doing his bidding, it's hard to get things done. 0.70

00:13:45.720 You see that right now.

00:13:46.540 You see that, frankly, you know, in many of these institutions where they'll sort of start leaking stuff out.

00:13:51.660 They'll make bad decisions that they know is against the will of the administration, but they'll put it out because they know it'll do some damage.

00:13:56.920 And maybe the issue is small enough that it'll skirt under the radar of the president who's dealing with a pandemic, who's dealing with China, who's dealing with Iran, who's dealing with, you know, bigger issues.

00:14:07.080 And so, you know, that sort of systemic in there, I think that's their hope.

00:14:10.480 I think that's what they're going to try to do.

00:14:11.800 They're going to try to stall it.

00:14:12.880 You hear what's going on at the CIA and the people there supposedly trying to stall this information.

00:14:17.300 Why wouldn't the American people need to know this?

00:14:19.020 These are American actors colluding with a known Russian spy to create a disinformation campaign that the president of the United States and his vice president, who's now running for president of the United States at the top of the Democratic ticket, they all knew.

00:14:33.680 And we're not supposed to find out before the election.

00:14:36.440 I think their hope is that, you know, if they can maybe pull off a win, if they can pull the wool over the eyes of the American people and get a win, maybe this can just go away because that's the history.

00:14:46.740 That's what they've done.

00:14:47.640 They've taken care of themselves.

00:14:49.240 And frankly, Glenn, the Republicans are as guilty of it as anyone.

00:14:52.460 They're more concerned about protecting the institutions of government, despite them being failed, bloated and corrupted, as evidenced by everything that's going on over the last four years that this has been allowed to happen, that it's gone on unchecked, whether it's my father, whether it's General Flynn, whether it's Chris Wray at the FBI sitting on exculpatory evidence for years while they're trying to take down a three star general.

00:15:13.220 People, this stuff can't keep going on in America.

00:15:15.740 And if they're not held accountable, I am worried for the Republic.

00:15:18.720 Don, I you had a fundraiser here in Dallas.

00:15:23.100 And for the first time in my life, I wrote a check for a candidate.

00:15:28.900 And when I put it into the hands of the GOP fundraiser, I said, I don't want this going to the GOP.

00:15:37.020 This needs to go to elect Donald Trump and the rest of it needs to go to the attorneys that are going to do the actual battle after the election.

00:15:49.660 I don't trust the GOP, but as a guy who was, as you know, really not for your father, I have tremendous respect for him.

00:16:03.040 What he has done, he is the first president in my lifetime who has actually done all the things that I not only thought he wouldn't do, I don't think any president would do.

00:16:13.460 And we have to win.

00:16:16.460 He's got to be reelected.

00:16:17.660 I totally agree. I appreciate your sore port.

00:16:19.860 I know that's not easy to understand.

00:16:21.800 And by the way, as we've discussed, you know, in 2016, I could actually understand a lot of skepticism.

00:16:26.900 If you were conservative, if you were pro-life, if you were pro-religious, you know, is the brash billionaire from New York, is he really going to fight for you?

00:16:34.280 Is he really going to go to bat?

00:16:36.400 Now, in 2020, the answer is unquestionably.

00:16:38.700 He did it much more so than people who were much more vocal about this issue.

00:16:42.100 By the way, not only did he do that, he got us out of endless wars.

00:16:45.400 He's signing peace deals in the Middle East.

00:16:47.160 He grew the strongest economy I've ever known.

00:16:49.520 He renegotiated failed trade deals that people like Joe Biden, who wouldn't know what to do with a trade deal, you know, if they spent another 50 years working on it because they had no experience outside of government, wherever it's on.

00:17:00.640 He's renegotiated those.

00:17:01.940 He's got trade deals done even with China, and he'll hold them to tap.

00:17:04.580 He's the guy that can bring us out of this.

00:17:06.860 He's the guy that can do it again.

00:17:08.580 And honestly, you know, I understand the history there, and it means a lot that you understand that and you recognize that and that you've been, frankly, so open about it because that's not an easy thing to do.

00:17:17.160 And it's amazing to see.

00:17:19.520 So we really appreciate it.

00:17:20.780 Thank you, Glenn.

00:17:21.300 Thank you very much.

00:17:22.180 We'll talk again.

00:17:23.560 And the best to the health of your father and also Melania and the whole family.

00:17:29.760 Thank you very much.

00:17:30.500 All right.

00:17:31.640 We have Ali Stuckey coming up in just a second. 1.00

00:17:34.940 Also, who's on next?

00:17:36.800 Dave Rubin is coming up, but we have Steve Dace coming up.

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00:18:25.320 It's worked out pretty well as an investment, but that's not why I buy it.

00:18:28.660 I buy gold or silver because I truly, truly believe in the time of insanity and endless spending and green new deals.

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00:19:35.620 Okay.

00:19:38.840 We have Ali Stuckey and we have Steve Dace with us.

00:19:46.340 Ali, first, let me get your take on how it went.

00:19:51.980 What did you think?

00:19:53.860 I thought Mike Pence did a really good job.

00:19:58.140 He is the best surrogate for the Trump campaign that the Trump campaign has.

00:20:04.200 He does such a good job of remaining calm and self-assured and respectful while Kamala

00:20:10.280 Harris is giving her sass the entire time.

00:20:13.460 He remained composed, something that Donald Trump could not do.

00:20:16.660 Donald Trump just did not have the timing with trying to correct the record against Joe

00:20:21.180 Biden and Chris Wallace.

00:20:22.440 But Mike Pence played it really well.

00:20:25.600 I actually just saw a tweet that said Kamala Harris spoke for four minutes more in the debate

00:20:31.180 than Mike Pence did.

00:20:32.500 But you wouldn't think that because Mike Pence packed such a punch in every line that he gave.

00:20:38.920 So I think he did a great job.

00:20:41.320 Ali, did you feel that way at the beginning?

00:20:44.260 At the beginning, I was watching Mike and I thought, oh, he's not really answering the question and he's doing all the typical political, you know.

00:20:53.960 Well, thank you.

00:20:54.740 And well, let me just first say this.

00:20:57.540 And it seemed smarmy, almost smarmy.

00:21:00.900 Just the first couple of answers.

00:21:02.600 And then all of a sudden he hit and it, he was a different guy.

00:21:09.860 It worked.

00:21:10.760 Yeah.

00:21:11.240 Did you feel that way?

00:21:12.080 There were a couple of questions like that.

00:21:14.680 There was actually one question where he gave like formalities and kind gestures to Kamala the entire answer.

00:21:22.340 And he never actually got to respond to what she said.

00:21:24.680 And like, what are you doing?

00:21:25.960 That's just unnecessary.

00:21:27.380 I don't think that it's smarmy when it comes to him.

00:21:29.820 I think that, you know.

00:21:30.880 No, it is.

00:21:31.440 It's just him.

00:21:32.860 Yeah, it's just who he is.

00:21:34.580 But those pleasantries certainly were not given by Kamala Harris.

00:21:38.800 And maybe he would have had a little bit more time to hit back if he didn't do that.

00:21:42.160 But all in all, I think he did a really good job.

00:21:45.560 As a woman, how did Kamala Harris look to you? 1.00

00:21:50.260 Because as she looked condescending.

00:21:52.860 You know, I like her for about two minutes and then it just all falls apart on her.

00:21:59.480 It was the opposite of Mike Pence.

00:22:02.500 The more time you spend with her, the less you like her.

00:22:06.380 And the whole, I'm talking.

00:22:08.240 I'm, excuse me.

00:22:09.620 Excuse me, Allie.

00:22:11.540 I'm still speaking.

00:22:14.420 Okay?

00:22:15.060 Right.

00:22:15.580 That was so obnoxious.

00:22:17.920 Yes.

00:22:18.300 I'm not just a fellow woman.

00:22:19.620 I am also a woman who portrays my emotions and my reactions on my face and who really

00:22:25.680 has to work on not doing that at times when it's not appropriate.

00:22:29.580 Sometimes it can be charming and funny when it is appropriate.

00:22:32.460 A lot of times, though, it's just not cute.

00:22:34.800 It's not appealing.

00:22:35.680 It's not appeasing to the people who are watching you.

00:22:38.240 That's how I felt the whole time she was talking because Mike Pence was so respectful

00:22:41.980 and deferred to her so much that her contrast made her look really petty and really insecure.

00:22:48.580 And to me, it came across as embarrassed. 0.96

00:22:51.120 And then I was embarrassed for her that she was overcompensating by these ridiculous facial 0.98

00:22:55.920 expressions. 0.92

00:22:56.540 So I understand the need to communicate sass sometimes, but I also understand that there's

00:23:03.720 a time and a place and tonight was not the time or the place for that sass.

00:23:09.440 Let's go to Steve.

00:23:10.840 Steve, I want to talk to you before you leave.

00:23:14.020 I need to talk to you about the latest poll because I want to get your opinion on it.

00:23:18.560 But I want to first get your take on this debate.

00:23:25.680 Well, Glenn, I didn't come into this the biggest Mike Pence fan.

00:23:28.960 I thought he really blew it on the religious liberty issue in his state as when he was governor.

00:23:34.320 His task force has been a disaster with Fauci and Birx for the White House.

00:23:38.720 But I think tonight, especially the last hour, I thought it was one of the most dominant and

00:23:43.880 complete debate performances I have ever seen from a Republican running for any level of

00:23:50.220 office.

00:23:50.980 I think he just it was the JV versus the varsity.

00:23:54.200 He completely outclassed her.

00:23:56.440 You saw why she couldn't even make it to the Iowa caucuses. 1.00

00:23:59.480 She dropped out two months before they took a single vote in the Democratic primary.

00:24:03.320 She's just not ready for prime time.

00:24:06.240 And after he bombed the opening question on coronavirus, he allowed her to get away with

00:24:10.800 the lie that Trump called it a hoax.

00:24:12.800 That's not true.

00:24:13.680 Even AP debunked that last week.

00:24:15.700 He let her get away with it twice.

00:24:16.940 And I kind of rolled my eyes and thought, here we go.

00:24:18.900 With my you know, this is kind of why I've got a bit of a bit of butthurt where Mike Pence

00:24:22.840 is concerned.

00:24:23.480 But after that answer that Ali just addressed where he wasted too much time with with pleasantries,

00:24:30.120 once he dispensed with that and they got to the issues and the pivot point of this event

00:24:34.140 tonight was that when they pivoted to the economy and that answer that he gave on the

00:24:38.520 economy absolutely wrecked the entire Biden campaign message.

00:24:42.480 And it showed what I've said for years, Glenn.

00:24:45.180 When elections are about issues, Republicans win.

00:24:48.320 When they are about personalities, Democrats win.

00:24:51.400 If this is going to be a referendum on mean tweets and orange man bad, Donald Trump is toast.

00:24:56.520 If it's going to be a referendum on whose policies are best for the future of the country,

00:25:00.780 then the Biden team is toast.

00:25:02.380 And it's up to the Trump team to make sure that they are on message so that the debate is about

00:25:07.240 issues.

00:25:07.680 And it was tonight.

00:25:08.900 And it needs to be next week if they're fortunate to have another one.

00:25:11.860 I completely agree with you.

00:25:13.300 The turning point was the second set of questions.

00:25:17.180 I thought Pence would do a great job on coronavirus because he had the facts.

00:25:21.940 He was there.

00:25:23.240 I thought he just blew that.

00:25:24.700 I was exactly where you were.

00:25:27.180 I'm like, oh, boy, here we go.

00:25:29.000 And then he hit the economy and he dragged the economy all the way through the debate.

00:25:35.800 And it was to me, it was so clear the choice.

00:25:41.980 But let me ask both of you, if you're a low information voter, you're probably not watching

00:25:47.680 this tonight.

00:25:48.280 But if you were a low information voter and you got your news from the mainstream media,

00:25:53.840 why would you believe Mike Pence?

00:25:58.240 What I thought Mike Pence did well is he made the issues about the people and not himself.

00:26:03.860 And I think that this is the razor's edge that Donald Trump is always riding, Glenn, in that

00:26:10.100 he has not sold real estate.

00:26:12.580 Real estate is not what has made Donald Trump a billionaire.

00:26:15.080 It's selling Donald Trump that has been.

00:26:17.160 Yes.

00:26:17.420 He is the product.

00:26:18.800 And that's both good and bad.

00:26:20.180 And I say this as someone who also has, you know, a bombastic personality that can grate

00:26:26.420 on people that would that should like me and I annoy anyway.

00:26:29.260 So I get it to some extent.

00:26:31.140 But I think Pence is not encumbered by the notion there's more self-awareness there.

00:26:36.380 He knows that he is not the product.

00:26:38.520 And I think that he stayed away from rabbit trails that we care about, like Hunter Biden

00:26:42.240 and stuff like that, for the most part.

00:26:44.200 And he talked about issues that people cared about.

00:26:46.620 The way that he hammered home.

00:26:47.920 Hey, answer the question, are you going to disregard the Constitution and stack the court?

00:26:53.620 He hammered home issues that actually matter to voters.

00:26:57.440 And I think sometimes, you know, you see that both sides have their own media bubble and don't

00:27:02.580 often get outside of that and forget about the voters you're talking about.

00:27:05.820 And that was my frustration when I was down there with you guys last week is those are

00:27:09.600 the people that are going to decide this now.

00:27:11.400 And I don't think Donald Trump made himself accessible to those voters at all.

00:27:15.080 I think tonight, Mike Pence did a far better job of that.

00:27:18.420 So let's go to cut 28.

00:27:20.180 Here is Kamala. 0.96

00:27:22.220 Pence is very, very clear.

00:27:24.580 Are you going to pack the court?

00:27:27.560 Yes or no?

00:27:29.200 Cut 28.

00:27:29.920 Kamala skirts that question.

00:27:32.460 In 1864, one of the, I think, political heroes, certainly of the president, I assume

00:27:38.400 if you also Mr. Vice President, is Abraham Lincoln.

00:27:40.840 Abraham Lincoln was up for re-election and it was 27 days before the election and a seat

00:27:50.220 became open on the United States Supreme Court.

00:27:53.080 Abraham Lincoln's party was in charge not only of the White House, but the Senate.

00:27:57.800 But honest aide said it's not the right thing to do.

00:28:02.680 The American people deserve to make the decision about who will be the next president of the

00:28:07.620 United States and then that person can select who will serve for a lifetime on the highest

00:28:13.700 court of our land.

00:28:15.940 And so Joe and I are very clear.

00:28:18.040 The American people are voting right now and it should be their decision about who will

00:28:25.640 serve on this most important body for a lifetime.

00:28:29.860 Allie, is there anyone that talks down to people more than Kamala Harris?

00:28:40.700 Is it just me?

00:28:42.300 I felt like, you know who that was.

00:28:45.460 That was Abraham Lincoln.

00:28:48.160 I just felt like, why are you talking down to me?

00:28:52.840 Yeah.

00:28:53.520 Yeah.

00:28:53.880 She has an issue with that, not just with her words, but with her facial expressions.

00:28:57.020 And that's exactly why she couldn't even win the primary in her own state. 0.51

00:29:00.240 This is why she dropped out.

00:29:01.400 I'm watching this.

00:29:02.440 I actually predicted a couple of years ago.

00:29:04.780 I predicted, you know, I could see Kamala Harris being the Democratic nominee because 0.90

00:29:08.920 of intersectionality.

00:29:10.100 Then in the primary, I was so wrong and I was like, how could I have gotten this so wrong?

00:29:14.560 And then I was watching the debates and I was like, oh, I remember she's so deeply

00:29:18.840 unlikable.

00:29:19.380 But this part made me laugh out loud.

00:29:22.560 She stomped her foot and she laughed maniacally and then she answered this question while 1.00

00:29:27.620 in 1864 and she thought this was so clever.

00:29:31.280 I thought this was the most humiliating point of the night.

00:29:35.320 Worse than Mike Pence's pleasantries.

00:29:38.540 Worse than him avoiding the question on coronavirus and maybe missing some punches toward her.

00:29:43.260 I thought this was humiliating.

00:29:45.160 I had secondhand embarrassment.

00:29:46.900 I was laughing out of embarrassment just because of her refusal to answer the question and her

00:29:52.700 answer, which wasn't even a good distraction at all.

00:29:55.620 It was a terrible choice to tell that story, just a terrible rhetorical choice.

00:30:00.020 And I think I don't think talking about the voters and what actually appeals to the voters.

00:30:04.480 I don't think that story of Abraham Lincoln.

00:30:07.400 I don't think a lot of people were tracking with it.

00:30:09.740 I think a lot of people were just really confused when she answered the question, are you going

00:30:14.180 to pack the court with, well, in 1864, I think people just lost her.

00:30:20.360 It wasn't even related to packing the court.

00:30:24.280 I mean, it was, it was, she came at it and she was so excited.

00:30:28.300 Oh, I'm glad you asked about history.

00:30:32.920 She, that was a planned answer.

00:30:36.680 Yes.

00:30:37.140 Yes.

00:30:37.880 Wow.

00:30:39.280 Wow.

00:30:40.760 Right.

00:30:41.260 She was so excited about it because she was going to bring up a Republican that she knew.

00:30:45.580 I thought it was weird that she said, I know that this is a hero of the president.

00:30:49.420 Is it?

00:30:50.540 I just thought that the whole thing was so weird, but you're right.

00:30:53.380 The fact that this was pre-planned, she had to look down and read it.

00:30:56.620 She got together with her staff and was like, this is how we're going to answer.

00:30:59.860 This is how we're going to answer the court packing question.

00:31:02.700 But I could tell she was a little bit nervous in saying it. 1.00

00:31:05.480 So maybe she even was self-aware enough to realize how stupid it was. 1.00

00:31:09.100 I don't know. 1.00

00:31:09.480 So you both have said to me that she's deeply unlikable. 0.78

00:31:14.400 I agree.

00:31:15.180 And the reason why she couldn't even be voted for or elected in her own state of California,

00:31:25.780 she couldn't even win.

00:31:28.380 So why did they pick her?

00:31:30.440 You know, it's a very good question.

00:31:31.720 Oh, go ahead.

00:31:32.080 Go ahead, Allie.

00:31:33.000 Go ahead.

00:31:33.540 Oh, I just have a quick.

00:31:35.220 I mean, I think probably partly because of the intersectionality points there and just

00:31:40.520 to be able to have that kind of like identity stake in this race, to be able to say that

00:31:46.360 they have, you know, the first woman of color.

00:31:49.580 Actually, I don't even.

00:31:50.840 Well, yeah, the first woman of color running as the vice presidential nominee. 1.00

00:31:54.980 And so I think that's probably part of why it is.

00:31:58.260 And maybe to appease the more radical part of the base.

00:32:01.060 They're showing Joe Biden as the moderate and they're trying to appease both sides with

00:32:06.680 Kamala Harris.

00:32:07.680 That's probably why they picked her. 1.00

00:32:10.280 I just want to point out, Allie, that you are a woman of color.

00:32:13.460 You're just not the right color.

00:32:15.520 Oh, that's true.

00:32:16.720 To have a lighter shade of melanin.

00:32:18.900 Yes.

00:32:19.880 Steve.

00:32:20.360 To go to the Kamala Harris thing, I mean, first of all, she got she called their nominee

00:32:26.360 a racist.

00:32:27.200 That was her high point of her career.

00:32:29.420 She got absolutely wrecked by Tulsi Gabbard, a candidate that they want to believe that

00:32:33.780 they want to acknowledge is not even in their party.

00:32:35.860 That was the last shot we had of her as a candidate.

00:32:38.740 She had to eject two months before the Iowa caucus has had their first vote. 0.96

00:32:42.840 And she's from a state that if Joe Biden just does this for the next 27 days and never

00:32:48.740 says it were, he's going to win by 30 points.

00:32:51.160 Other than that, she has a wonderful singing voice and was a tremendous vice presidential

00:32:55.280 nomination.

00:32:56.320 It's one of the it's the worst running mate choice any party's made since Dan Quayle.

00:33:00.840 She added nothing.

00:33:02.000 Joe Biden was more popular with black voters in their primary than she was.

00:33:05.580 She added nothing.

00:33:06.340 And I go to the end of the debate when the when they brought up the racialist agenda.

00:33:09.880 And I have mixed feelings, Glenn, at best with the virtue signaling on prison reform

00:33:15.740 and everything else.

00:33:17.380 But but that should have been in her wheelhouse.

00:33:20.300 And Mike Pence took her own rhetoric, ripped off her arm and beat her with it right there 1.00

00:33:25.540 on the stage at the end.

00:33:26.960 And and that's just that's amateur hour.

00:33:29.580 She's just not good at this. 0.96

00:33:32.420 OK, so I need to end with this question for for you, Steve.

00:33:38.600 And Ali, thank you so much for staying up and being with us.

00:33:42.800 But Steve, I sat with a bunch of political people tonight and we were talking about how

00:33:52.820 they're the Biden campaign's not going door to door.

00:33:56.460 They're not doing a lot of the stuff that you're supposed to do.

00:34:00.080 And we sat there and said.

00:34:03.880 Besides the possibility of them just cheating like crazy, do they know something that we

00:34:10.580 don't know every step of the way, it seems like they're out of touch with Antifa and their

00:34:19.060 support for the burning down of cities, they're out of touch with the Green New Deal.

00:34:24.380 They don't really have a jobs thing.

00:34:26.840 They're out of touch with the mandatory masks.

00:34:30.440 They're out of touch with supporting all of the dictator kind of, you know, moves.

00:34:38.540 And then they're not doing what the hell is what do they know that we don't know?

00:34:44.560 Well, let me ask you a question.

00:34:46.120 If you never looked at a single public poll about this election and only surveyed the

00:34:52.440 environment of what was around you, Glenn, what would you think was occurring right now?

00:34:56.600 I would think this is going to be a landslide for Donald Trump.

00:34:59.720 Yeah.

00:35:00.700 And so I think you got to take the polls that are coming from the same media that's lied

00:35:04.680 to you the last few years about Russian collusion and what's a gender and what's a border and

00:35:09.960 what's a criminal.

00:35:10.800 And I think you need to flush those.

00:35:12.620 And then you need to ask you to need to look at some of the polls that I think have had

00:35:15.260 credibility in the past and look at their methodologies.

00:35:18.140 Well, tell me about Rasmussen, because that's the poll that came out today.

00:35:23.660 Rasmussen has always been leaning Trump.

00:35:28.420 It's always been the most positive for Donald Trump.

00:35:32.560 What happened?

00:35:32.840 Now, listen, if Rasmussen is marketing, it worked. 0.99

00:35:35.600 They got me to subscribe to their platinum package so I could finally look at their damn 0.99

00:35:39.340 methodology. 1.00

00:35:40.120 All right.

00:35:40.340 Because I'm a cheapskate.

00:35:41.260 I don't want to subscribe to anything unless it's Blaze TV, of course.

00:35:44.020 So I subscribed to Rasmussen and look at their methodology and I got to their first data

00:35:50.240 point and I just stopped reading from there because they claim that Donald Trump today

00:35:54.540 in their poll that has Biden winning by 12 points, which, by the way, would be the most

00:35:58.800 impressive victory for a Democrat presidential candidate against an incumbent president in

00:36:04.040 almost 100 years, FDR against Hoover.

00:36:07.040 All right.

00:36:07.400 So they claim Biden's going to win by 12.

00:36:09.360 Their first data point, Donald Trump's only going to win 76 percent of registered Republicans.

00:36:14.940 Now, he won 88 percent of them four years ago, Glenn, when guys like you and I set out

00:36:18.780 and didn't vote for him.

00:36:19.920 Now, I don't know about you.

00:36:20.920 I get around the country.

00:36:22.080 You get around the country a lot more than I do. 0.98

00:36:24.120 I don't know a single damn person that voted for Donald Trump last time. 0.81

00:36:28.220 It isn't this time. 0.95

00:36:29.120 I know scores of people that didn't vote last time for him and are this time.

00:36:32.880 I'm one of them.

00:36:33.540 I know you're one of them.

00:36:34.260 Yeah, I am, too.

00:36:34.700 And so the idea that he's going to get a lower percentage of Republican voters is just nuts.

00:36:39.900 And to put that 76 percent in context, in the last seven elections, the lowest any Republican

00:36:45.200 has gotten of their own party's vote was in 1992.

00:36:48.080 George H.W. Bush got 73 percent, but he had Ross Perot on the ticket, siphoning off his

00:36:53.340 own support.

00:36:54.340 There is no third party candidate here.

00:36:56.580 Donald Trump didn't face a primary challenge like George H.W. Bush did from Pat Buchanan.

00:37:01.120 So how can they be this wrong this time?

00:37:06.580 I don't know.

00:37:07.620 Here's what I know.

00:37:08.800 What I know is I am coming on you.

00:37:10.920 I'm coming on. 1.00

00:37:11.620 We're going to do a special show on Blaze TV where I will perform stupid human tricks 0.99

00:37:16.120 if Donald Trump only gets 76 percent of the Republican vote on election day. 1.00

00:37:20.900 That show of you doing stupid. 1.00

00:37:22.580 It's not going to happen. 1.00

00:37:23.760 It's not going to happen.

00:37:24.960 Not going to happen.

00:37:26.020 All right.

00:37:26.680 Thank you both so much.

00:37:28.500 I appreciate it.

00:37:29.280 All right.

00:37:30.160 We have Dave Rubin coming up in just a second.

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00:39:03.460 We ready with Dave Rubin?

00:39:06.320 Dave Rubin.

00:39:09.820 Glenn.

00:39:11.380 This was I'm happier today.

00:39:14.480 I don't know if anybody watched it, but I'm happier today than I was a week ago at the at the last debate.

00:39:23.140 I thought it was a bloodbath in favor of Mike Pence.

00:39:28.620 Your thoughts.

00:39:30.040 Well, before we get to the debate, and that's obviously very important and what we're going to focus on.

00:39:34.100 Can I just say I'm feeling very good about my hair game right now and the amount of product that that takes to get that lift.

00:39:40.280 It's a little lower than normal right now.

00:39:42.080 It's been a long day.

00:39:44.180 It's like, did you ever go through that where you're just freaking out?

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00:39:48.560 I'm going to be bald.

00:39:49.580 I don't want to be bald.

00:39:50.420 Please don't let me be bald.

00:39:52.520 Well, it's like an episode of Seinfeld.

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00:39:56.760 I know.

00:39:57.140 I know.

00:39:57.600 Look at the. 0.55

00:39:58.060 But I'd be bald and fat.

00:40:02.040 All right.

00:40:02.920 Come on now.

00:40:04.040 You've got a you've got a very nice tan.

00:40:05.840 You'll be just fine.

00:40:06.760 OK.

00:40:07.880 As for the debate.

00:40:09.000 I mean, let me be very, very, very clear about one thing here.

00:40:11.840 I mean, Kamala Harris has got to be the most unlikable vice presidential candidate, perhaps 1.00

00:40:17.360 in all of history, certainly in modern times.

00:40:19.900 I can't remember anyone as smug and condescending and belittling.

00:40:24.380 And someone who demands respect instead of earning respect.

00:40:29.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:29.800 The way she turned to the vice president so many times when he barely interrupted.

00:40:35.080 You know, these aren't debates in the technical way.

00:40:37.840 A debate is supposed to be a debate with real back and forth.

00:40:40.620 They design these things to not have that.

00:40:42.660 And this this was doubly not that after what happened in the presidential debate.

00:40:47.060 But, you know, for the little tiny moments where he jumped in, when she would just bite

00:40:52.980 him like that, it's like, man, people do not like that.

00:40:55.900 And I said this morning on my pre-debate show, all he had to do to win was not fall out of

00:41:02.380 his seat.

00:41:03.080 And he basically did much more than that, because he came off as someone that Trump is 74 years

00:41:09.340 old.

00:41:09.880 He had coronavirus.

00:41:11.420 We know he likes McDonald's.

00:41:12.720 If something happened to the president, we know that that Pence proved himself clearly

00:41:18.240 to be able to be able to handle the job and be presidential.

00:41:22.040 And Kamala, I mean, the endless litany of lies and the very fine people hoax that they

00:41:26.620 just keep jamming down everybody's throat over and over again.

00:41:30.000 It's unbelievable. 0.56

00:41:31.040 It's just unbelievable.

00:41:32.640 So did you notice that neither one of them wanted to answer the question, hey, what happens

00:41:38.320 if the old guy dies?

00:41:39.600 Which I really thought Pence should just go, look at him.

00:41:46.280 He just got out of the hospital for coronavirus.

00:41:48.800 Look at him.

00:41:50.060 He's going to put me into the grave.

00:41:52.580 You know, and if he dies, if a president dies, the Constitution spells it all out.

00:41:56.560 We don't have to have a conversation.

00:41:58.900 Now, on the other hand, Joe Biden.

00:42:03.740 I mean, I was surprised that he didn't take that on because Donald Trump does not strike

00:42:10.460 anybody as 75 years old.

00:42:12.540 Look, I think we can all agree, you know, that Pence is probably not the funniest guy

00:42:16.500 in the room, you know, but he had a real, you know, this isn't somebody that works on

00:42:20.380 humor.

00:42:20.880 He's he's definitely, you know, pretty scripted.

00:42:23.000 And I think in this regard, his strength is actually being able to stay on message and

00:42:27.940 kind of clear.

00:42:28.820 And that's why he won.

00:42:29.840 But I agree.

00:42:30.700 If he would have just done something a little kind of sly, maybe with like a little bit

00:42:35.040 of a wink and just been like, you know, Trump just walked out of the hospital.

00:42:38.300 He says he feels better than he has in 20 years.

00:42:40.500 I think we're going to be OK.

00:42:41.960 I actually think that would have shown a little more humanness with Pence because that that

00:42:46.100 is his one thing that that the stiffness with him, I think, is is off putting to some

00:42:51.780 people.

00:42:52.000 But but that aside, I think he completely mopped up this debate.

00:42:55.920 Oh, he seemed to have the facts and he kept to the economy, which is really what the average

00:43:03.220 person cares about.

00:43:06.080 When you look and I asked this earlier of Don Jr., the beginning of the beginning of the

00:43:12.760 debate, I thought, oh, Pence is going to look smarmy and just like, you know, a typical

00:43:18.540 politician, you know what I mean, where it's just like not really answering the question

00:43:23.540 and will thank you for inviting me and thank you.

00:43:26.260 And, you know, let me tell the American people.

00:43:29.060 And I thought, oh, my gosh, the first five minutes was just I thought it was going to be

00:43:34.100 a horror show.

00:43:35.240 Then it changed.

00:43:37.500 Do you think people who are like what you used to be like, where you you I mean, a long

00:43:45.280 time ago, you were, you know, crazy leftist, but you're you you know, you're not you're

00:43:50.840 I can't deny it. 0.95

00:43:51.840 Right.

00:43:52.040 I know.

00:43:52.400 But you're but you you five years ago or however long it was, you started to ask questions.

00:43:58.580 And I think a lot of people are asking questions on the right and the left.

00:44:03.640 Do you think there was a clear choice or do you come to this with the bias of your own

00:44:13.760 side?

00:44:15.040 Well, I would say more than anything else, it depends where you get your news from,

00:44:19.100 because we are in a reality war.

00:44:21.380 Why is it why is it that Joe Biden can tell you he launched his campaign because of very

00:44:27.860 fine people on both sides in Charlottesville and then Kamala Harris can repeat that tonight? 1.00

00:44:33.720 Everyone knows it's a lie.

00:44:35.040 But when I say everyone, it's only everyone.

00:44:36.960 If you watch The Blaze, if you watch, you know, shows like mine on YouTube, wherever, you

00:44:41.200 know, if you watch alternative media, you might see that right before Trump said very

00:44:45.920 fine people on both sides, he condemned the neo-Nazis and the white supremacists.

00:44:49.520 And he was talking about people on both sides of the monument debate and what you should

00:44:53.340 do with with monuments and statues.

00:44:55.980 So the idea of the question really of, well, can you move people depending on where they're

00:45:01.060 at beforehand?

00:45:01.720 Well, it really is completely a function of what they're watching and what they're listening

00:45:08.140 to.

00:45:09.140 And I'm thrilled to say, I know The Blaze has absolutely been killing it, which is which

00:45:12.420 is why we upped our relationship and what we're doing together.

00:45:15.340 And voices like ours are starting to come through.

00:45:19.260 And, you know, I played the clip on my show and I just tweeted it out of Trump saying the

00:45:24.260 thing about very fine people on both sides.

00:45:26.080 And I tagged Jake Tapper and I'll tag all of these CN gun guys. 0.74

00:45:29.700 Guys, do your job so that we don't have to.

00:45:31.760 But you're not only burning down your own industry, you're burning down the Democrats alongside

00:45:36.120 of you and you guys all are Democrats.

00:45:38.600 It's like, just do a little bit better.

00:45:40.520 And then a lot of us would have to work much harder, I think.

00:45:44.480 Let me ask you the question that I asked the last two.

00:45:49.120 What the hell do they know that we don't know?

00:45:53.060 They are just marching down this crazy left road.

00:45:58.880 They it's coming unraveled at some point.

00:46:03.360 If Donald Trump wins again, it's all coming undone for them.

00:46:07.060 Yeah.

00:46:08.360 And they're not doing they're not canvassing.

00:46:11.340 They're not going door to door.

00:46:13.860 What is it that they know?

00:46:15.400 They're so confident.

00:46:17.880 What is it?

00:46:18.800 Do they believe the polls or do they know something we don't know?

00:46:22.980 You know, these guys and I and I know this from my days as a lefty, they they always double

00:46:27.840 down when they're proven wrong by something.

00:46:29.980 They use that as proof that they're right, actually.

00:46:33.780 So it's like if Donald Trump is president right now, which last I checked, he is, you

00:46:38.220 would think that they would have done an autopsy last time, four years ago and say, is there

00:46:42.860 something we did wrong here with the message?

00:46:45.160 Maybe calling half of America racists and bigots and homophobes wasn't the best idea.

00:46:50.540 But instead, what they did was they doubled down on it.

00:46:53.620 So I think and by the way, this is very much a function of what critical race theory does.

00:46:58.520 You know, it's not just that you can be non-racist.

00:47:01.160 You have to be anti-racist.

00:47:02.400 You always double down on everything.

00:47:04.500 And because they've gone so deep in that and that, of course, was also the risk of calling

00:47:09.000 Trump Hitler the whole time. 0.77

00:47:10.720 If he doesn't turn out to be Hitler, you can't turn around and say, whoops, that was a that 0.97

00:47:14.280 was a mistake on that Hitler thing.

00:47:15.900 You know, I really guess I misjudged Hitler.

00:47:17.820 Um, so, so that's what we're up against.

00:47:20.620 But, you know, I'll ask you something because, because you've been in this game longer than

00:47:24.260 me.

00:47:24.500 I mean, what I'm amazed by is the, is this thing about the media and how they, they let

00:47:29.700 the lies go over and over.

00:47:31.440 Like, what do you think is going on in the mind of someone like Jake Tapper, who I think

00:47:35.300 is at least somewhat decent on CNN?

00:47:37.800 Not great because nobody's great over there.

00:47:39.960 But I actually used to like Jake Tapper.

00:47:41.680 I used to think he was very fair and reasonable.

00:47:45.120 Um, I worked in that building.

00:47:46.720 I worked at CNN, you, you did CNN, you did, you did Fox, you did the rest of it.

00:47:51.480 Like, what do you think is actually going on in their heads when they know that the clips

00:47:55.000 are there and yet they refuse to acknowledge it?

00:47:58.260 I think they believe that they are right about Donald Trump and they feel a little bit guilty

00:48:07.300 about making such a big deal out of him and, um, and take, not taking him seriously as a

00:48:15.780 candidate.

00:48:16.780 They were mocking him the whole time.

00:48:17.620 So they were like, we're not going to, they feel they have to correct their own mistake.

00:48:23.120 Yeah.

00:48:23.920 Um, and they actually have convinced themselves that they are right.

00:48:29.960 And as long as they're right, that he's a danger, it doesn't matter.

00:48:36.000 We have to find a way to get people away from him because we're saving the Republic.

00:48:42.400 I think that's what it is.

00:48:43.860 Yeah.

00:48:44.280 I think that's probably ballpark, right?

00:48:46.140 I mean, I'll tell you one thing, Glenn, you know, the idea that Susan page, you know, 0.82

00:48:49.980 it's tough to be a moderator.

00:48:51.240 Sometimes it's tough to be an interviewer and you don't ask the perfect follow-up question

00:48:54.680 or you drop the ball on this or whatever it might be.

00:48:57.360 I I'm always very upfront about that.

00:48:58.900 I'm sure I've made mistakes in interviews.

00:49:00.440 There's no doubt.

00:49:01.500 Um, but the idea that Kamala Harris, there were several lies she threw up there, including 1.00

00:49:06.460 the tax thing as well, but, but that she could say the very fine people thing and that Susan

00:49:11.780 page doesn't say she knows, like, you know, she knows everyone knows.

00:49:15.980 So that would be just such an obvious one. 1.00

00:49:18.400 The suckers, the suckers and losers lie, the, the green new deal lie, the green new deal. 0.99

00:49:26.200 And I think that's the fracking thing. 1.00

00:49:28.100 Yes.

00:49:28.440 Come on.

00:49:29.560 That's where, that's where Donald Trump lost it last time.

00:49:34.080 I mean, um, Chris Wallace came out before the debate and said, I'm not going to, uh, I'm

00:49:41.420 not going to correct anybody.

00:49:43.300 Well then wait, so then they can just get away with anything.

00:49:48.400 And then I have to correct.

00:49:50.260 And I think he, he was pissed that they were just lying and Wallace wasn't doing anything.

00:49:59.520 And I think he just lost it and was like, you're not getting away with that.

00:50:04.000 Um, and it, that, that doesn't work, uh, for, for, for him or anybody else.

00:50:10.180 Uh, can you imagine what it would be like if there was no alternative media right now?

00:50:14.360 I mean, can you possibly imagine, you know, we're in a information battle as is, and as

00:50:19.340 I call it a war for reality and a war on reality, but can you imagine if the ability for us to

00:50:25.620 share these clips and have these conversations just went away?

00:50:29.320 And by the way, big tech would be more than happy to take it away from us.

00:50:32.200 I mean, it would be a world that you cannot even imagine at this point.

00:50:36.660 It would be, or you don't want to imagine.

00:50:37.960 It would be the old Soviet union.

00:50:39.900 Let me ask you one last question.

00:50:41.580 I, I said the other day when people, when people say, you know, the capitalists are going

00:50:51.800 to be the first to, uh, have their back against the wall this spring when we win and, uh, you

00:50:59.060 know, they'll be, they'll, they'll be shooting us.

00:51:04.100 I said on the air, you have to take these people seriously.

00:51:08.720 They mean it.

00:51:10.760 I don't think the average Democrat does, but the average Democrat is not running the democratic

00:51:17.300 party anymore.

00:51:18.900 I really believe Dave, that you and I, we are going to have a.com for a while and that

00:51:28.360 you will have to know our address and go to us.

00:51:32.080 We will not be able to reach out beyond our own.coms, uh, if we're allowed to have that.

00:51:40.400 Do you believe that's what we're facing an end to much of America's freedom and, and losing

00:51:48.460 our voices if this goes wrong?

00:51:51.000 Well, look, it's, there's no doubt that that is what we are staring in the face.

00:51:55.080 You know, every year that there's an election, everyone says it's the most important election.

00:51:59.100 This one really feels like the referendum on does the American experiment continue or

00:52:04.120 not?

00:52:04.940 You know, you can look back to any other election.

00:52:06.940 We had Obama versus Romney, Obama versus McCain, George W.

00:52:10.060 Versus Gore.

00:52:11.460 It's like, okay, they were basically in the same ballpark.

00:52:14.280 Maybe one had a little more hawkish foreign policy or one wanted a little something different

00:52:18.080 on taxes.

00:52:18.920 But the basic paradigm was America's a fundamentally decent place.

00:52:22.860 And we just have a, we have differences.

00:52:24.940 I don't want to say marginal differences because often they're deep philosophical differences,

00:52:28.020 but we have, we have differences within the idea that this thing and the founding documents

00:52:33.160 are good.

00:52:34.280 What we are up against now is a force that says it is not good.

00:52:38.360 And if you are a Democrat, and as you just said, there are good Democrats.

00:52:41.780 If you are a Democrat and you believe that this experiment is good, if you think that Biden

00:52:47.520 and Harris are the ones that can protect it from what's coming after them, I think you're

00:52:51.980 just sorely mistaking.

00:52:53.280 But I'll give you the silver lining on this, which is the more that social justice infects 0.97

00:52:58.940 these systems, infects these institutions, infects these big tech companies, you know,

00:53:03.800 ravages through the Democratic Party, it will destroy these things too.

00:53:08.400 So I think the challenge for us and anyone watching this is to figure out ways to build

00:53:13.480 better institutions and better companies, build new tech companies, build new universities,

00:53:18.900 build new media institutions.

00:53:20.400 We've been around the block, we can do it, and I have nothing better to do.

00:53:24.380 Yeah, me too.

00:53:25.240 I'm trapped at home, I have nothing better to do than save the world, you know?

00:53:28.480 My gosh, you're in California, they're going to staple that mask to your face soon.

00:53:34.680 Dave, you saw the thing where now if you're out with your family, they want you to eat and

00:53:38.780 then put the mask on and then take the mask off.

00:53:40.820 In between bites, you're supposed, that's, how are you still there, Dave?

00:53:45.500 Move to Texas.

00:53:47.140 I'm a glutton for punishment, man.

00:53:48.400 Move to Texas, thanks so much.

00:53:50.260 God bless.

00:53:50.520 See you, go ahead.

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00:56:43.480 fill and I'm a little sleepy, quite honestly.

00:56:47.080 So we will see you tomorrow on radio.

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00:56:59.900 which is going to be fun.

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00:57:03.540 Till then.

The Glenn Beck Program - October 08, 2020

2020 Vice Presidential Debate： Special Coverage

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