The House Intel Committee has given Donald Trump until today to give them the evidence of the alleged surveillance by the Obama administration, or else they won t move forward with their investigation. Glenn Beck breaks down what the evidence could be and what the committee could do with it.
00:01:23.000Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:30.260The House Intel Committee has given Trump, until today, to make clear the evidence of wiretapping.
00:01:40.080They feel that this is quite an important charge.
00:01:44.440You accused the former president of wiretapping.
00:01:48.720You wouldn't do that unless you had evidence.
00:01:52.720Mark Levin said that the evidence was very clear.
00:01:56.480I don't know if he has seen the evidence.
00:01:59.000But the White House or the House Intel Committee has now said, give us, Mr. President, the evidence by Monday afternoon or we're not moving forward.
00:02:13.080Because the White House said, here's what was happening.
00:02:20.240Congress said, you need to show us some evidence that this happened and we'll investigate.
00:02:25.920It seems like every piece of news I read the last couple of days has been speculating on one spokesperson or another and the way they took this and the way.
00:02:37.000And it's like, well, why bother with all that?
00:03:10.620They've told me that you don't necessarily learn anything new from that committee.
00:03:15.760And if you're on it, you can't even talk about the subject because the laws are so, so dicey that they don't even want to talk about the subject.
00:03:26.120And so it bars them from discussing anything.
00:03:29.040Mike Lee, Joint Economic Committee, Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, Committee on the Judiciary.
00:03:36.320Okay, so he'll be able to talk about it without any information.
00:04:32.760But what I'm asking you is, is there any doubt in your mind that as president of the United States, if the evidence exists, that he can get it?
00:04:45.780So we should know by tomorrow what the evidence is.
00:04:49.480Did you also follow that Steve Bannon, and they're now calling Sean Hannity the third most powerful man in the world because of what happened on Friday?
00:05:02.920They let all of the Justice Department attorneys, all the Obama attorneys go.
00:06:46.520Let's just judge what he what he's done.
00:06:48.160And as you point out, it has happened before.
00:06:50.380It's a little more aggressive maybe than other administrations.
00:06:53.100But that's not it's not as you know, it's not the most of all time.
00:06:56.560And you'd expect it to be more aggressive from the Trump administration.
00:06:59.500But it's not a huge it's not a huge deal, especially when you are getting leaks from somewhere.
00:07:08.100You know, if I had leaks from some place in the organization didn't know, the first thing I would do is cut all the people that I didn't hire.
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00:42:56.140You know, completely contradicting herself and nobody pays attention to it.
00:43:02.580Now, add that we are so close to we apparently can doctor video or film and you will not be able to prove that that isn't you in that picture.
00:44:13.360Where you could dump your email into it and private conversations into it, it would be secure.
00:44:21.620But the algorithm would search and it would try to make a digital replica of you through AI that you could write and it would write back and it would be a reflection of you.
00:44:41.820That sounds like something that's years away.
00:45:06.160So she took all of his email and dumped it into this program and it started writing her and she said, you know, I learned a lot about my friend, blah, blah, blah.
00:45:19.620Then she started doing it with others and saying, why don't you dump this into this system and that way we'll have you and your relatives can write to you, talk to you, and we're just going to continue to hone it because this guy didn't do it before he died.
00:45:40.200So if, Pat, you wanted to do this, you'll just answer a whole bunch of questions, very personal.
00:45:47.180You'll include all of your email and every conversation that you can possibly include in this so it will have it and then it will recreate you.
00:45:56.480And the people who are trying it and the people who are trying it are saying it's pretty darn close to how I would respond and pretty spooky that we're now starting to make a clone of you.
00:46:12.140Well, how long before that happens and when you do have AI and you do have upload and download, like Ray Kurzweil says, which Ray says is now about 10 years out where I can download me.
00:46:28.900Just put a jack in my head and download the way I process information like Google.
00:47:10.400Could a Glenn Beck in a fascistic world, you know, let's go to the movie, you know, let's go to the movie world for a while.
00:47:19.580Is it that crazy of a movie script that in a fascistic world, a guy who was known could be completely recreated for television or for the Internet and could continue to do his show.
00:47:37.900But then just have the government tweak because they killed him a long time ago.
00:47:43.740But he's still now starting to lead the people in the way the government wanted to lead.
00:47:51.540I mean, yeah, seriously, some of that technology kind of exists because you look at the last Star Wars movie, for instance,
00:47:58.440where the general who played the original general on the Death Star in 1977 is featured prominently throughout the movie.
00:49:50.840But I think maybe one of the end games here, or at least there's never an end game, I guess.
00:49:56.680But the next step is we just don't care because we'll be so convinced that anything can be manipulated that these things don't matter.
00:50:06.460Remember, like, John Kerry's campaign was basically derailed, not completely, but largely derailed by I voted for it before I voted against it.
00:50:21.260These things happen 50 times a day now.
00:50:25.560Because of all the recording devices, because of social media, every politician is constantly shown to be a complete hypocrite.
00:50:36.320And we keep saying, you know, we go on the air every day and we say, like, do you believe what Nancy Pelosi said two weeks ago compared to what she said currently?
00:51:39.560They're starting to formulate their opinions on things just based on what the people, not on any facts, just on what the people they trust say.
00:51:52.820Glenn, how else could you explain the vast changes of opinion by 40 and 50% of groups?
00:57:57.260We are truly a society to really watch.
00:58:01.380There's there's a lot of crazy stuff going on with us as people.
00:58:06.400And we're we're now looking at studies.
00:58:11.100And one study I just shared, it was actually three studies that showed the same thing, suggests that we are willing to change everything if we think that it puts us in a wrong group.
00:58:29.020If it puts us in a group of people we don't like, we will change everything.
01:00:40.060We can sit here and say that we complain about it, but you're hearing a show that, you know, comes from Texas that used to come from New York.
01:01:18.920And they were trying to figure it out.
01:01:20.660You want to go to people that, you know, consider, that understand your viewpoint.
01:01:24.980And I don't think that it's the problem that people have talking to people who disagree with them that are rational and ask, as you've always begged for, honest questions.
01:01:35.360We are so convinced now that the other side doesn't ask honest questions.
01:01:39.560And, by the way, we're right in that analysis a lot of the time that we just want to get away from it.
01:37:02.480Uh, well, my father and I, uh, you know, well, I grew up with my father, uh, listening to talk radio and kind of, uh, listening to all sorts of people.
01:37:10.300And when I told him I was going to be out with you, uh, he said he got chills actually, because we used to, we used to listen to you and watch together.
01:37:18.700Um, well, I am so glad that you've joined us.
01:37:21.220I saw you on, uh, Dave Rubin's show, uh, and was fascinated by you because you say you're a libertarian, um, but you're also a proud conservative.
01:37:33.720And if this was visual, you're all tatted up, you live in San Francisco and I can't imagine, it's one thing to say a libertarian, another thing to say a conservative in San Francisco.
01:37:47.060What, how, how, how's that going for you?
01:37:53.120Uh, but, uh, yeah, but, uh, no, I, I kind of take, uh, you know, the, I think the good parts of both sides and I think even the good parts of liberalism to come up with some amalgamation that makes sense to me.
01:38:02.880Um, so I think, uh, socially, I think I'm very libertarian.
01:38:06.220In fact, I think I'm more libertarian than many, you know, progressive liberals.
01:38:09.760Um, but at the same time, I believe in the constitution.
01:38:12.120I believe in deference to the founders.
01:38:13.600I believe in a small government that stays out of your business.
01:38:17.040Uh, the thing is, is that I mark those all together.
01:38:19.660So a government that stays out of your business, uh, to tell you, you can have a gun, for instance, is the same, uh, it's the same government that I think should stay out of your business.
01:38:29.000Um, and I think that's where my libertarianism comes in the play.
01:38:30.960It's why, Colin, it's why, you know, I was in this strange position 10, 15 years ago of saying, look, uh, you know, morally, my religion teaches one thing, but my constitutionalism tells me I have no place to tell anybody who can marry and who can't.
01:38:49.520The government should be out of this entirely.
01:38:52.640Don't affect my church and I won't affect your marriage.
01:39:10.160I mean, I, you know, this is where I think people have a hard time identifying people like me, Glenn, because, you know, I'm actually an atheist.
01:39:15.980Uh, but I grew up in a Catholic household, uh, a very devoutly Catholic household.
01:39:21.140Um, and you have a, you know, people of faith have a great, uh, a great ally because I believe that faith is a good thing.
01:39:29.200I think it's good for, for people to have faith in something and a higher being.
01:39:31.880I just don't, but I would always protect to the very last a person's right.
01:39:35.860For instance, to believe just because I don't believe doesn't mean, as you said, you can't believe.
01:39:40.480Um, and so I also respect, you know, I'm pro-choice, but I respect the pro-life argument.
01:39:44.360I think it's a very principled argument.
01:39:45.800I think it's good that there are people out there that are challenging my beliefs.
01:39:49.340Um, and so, you know, this is, this is kind of the confusing thing.
01:39:52.660This kind of, um, this kind of thought policing, uh, that's happening.
01:39:57.040This, this very, um, you know, I'm considered an enemy to liberalism, even though I share many of their values because I believe the government should stay out of your business.
01:40:34.200I mean, I, you know, as people that listen to me and, and, and know me, I go off on politics often and, you know, I was disgusted with the Republican party.
01:40:42.460Um, and I, you know, I'm not a Trump fan at all.
01:40:44.820I, I, I was sickened by how people took what I thought Republicanism was and, and, you know, morphed it into something that it wasn't simply to win.
01:40:55.060And to me, that's not, that's not principled.
01:40:57.980And I'd rather lose and retain my principles.
01:41:00.540So when it was clear, Trump was going to, was going to win here in California, we vote very late.
01:41:04.640As you know, I voted for Kasich as a protest vote.
01:41:07.640Um, and then I disavowed the party completely.
01:41:09.900Um, that doesn't mean I'm a conservative or I'm sorry, that doesn't mean that I'm not a conservative.
01:41:13.300It means that I think that the conservative principles and the free principles that, that we stand upon, uh, were actually kind of taken away by people that, that don't really share our values.
01:41:21.380Um, and it seems like it's all in the name of winning.
01:41:24.440It's all in the name of, of being better than the other side.
01:41:32.520So, so help me out on what conservative, cause I, I don't know.
01:41:36.720Uh, I mean, I know what Republicanism means now.
01:41:39.140It means the same exact thing as, uh, as, uh, you know, being a Democrat, it means I'll do whatever I, it takes and whatever I have to, to win.
01:41:48.460Um, but conservatives, what does it mean to be a conservative?
01:42:19.320And to me, conservatism simply means in my mind, and everyone might have a different opinion on this.
01:42:23.840I'm sure they do, you know, uh, a deference to the constitution, uh, if a, if the government can get out of something, it should get out of something.
01:42:30.000If the state or, you know, the local or state government can take care of something over the federal government, I think that that's ideal.
01:42:36.060To me, it's personal freedom, responsibility, the right to succeed and the right to fail, um, and the right to express yourself freely, um, without having to worry about being called a bigot or being called a sexist as I was for making a silly joke.
01:42:50.260Um, and I'm glad you brought that up specifically because there are so many people that play video games.
01:42:55.580There are so many people that enjoy entertainment that don't have anyone speaking for them.
01:42:59.940The video game industry in the United States is out of San Francisco.
01:43:02.740The media, which I come from, I used to be the senior editor of the biggest video game website in the world.
01:43:06.820And two years ago, I quit to do my own thing with my friends, but it is exclusively liberal.
01:43:11.700I am the only real conservative voice out there in what I would call, uh, mainstream media.
01:43:16.300Obviously there are people on YouTube that do that as well in the gaming space.
01:43:19.460And you'd be shocked about how many people talk to me every day and are like, you are the only person I can relate to.
01:43:25.060I am a gun owner, for instance, you know, I'm not, but they're saying I am a gun owner, for instance, and I would be ridiculed and labeled by these other people, but you support me.
01:43:38.380Um, and so I think that there's, there's a conservative bent to gaming and a conservative bent to, you know, or an independent bent or a libertarian bent to those things that people are support.
01:43:48.180But what I'm asking you is, does the word conservative mean any, the word itself, because what you're saying is to me, conservative has been so bastardized that it doesn't mean anything that we almost, and this is not the right word because it's so misunderstood, but almost classic liberalism.
01:44:08.240Um, because I, I think, you know, everything is, I hope, and maybe this is wishful thinking, you will be able to tell me, is anybody in San Francisco waking up to the point of, hey, safe spaces is a restriction on speech.
01:44:25.120And we're really starting to go down the roads of, of fascism.
01:44:29.360And it's really kind of the progressive side that's, that's, that's pushing hard for it.
01:44:35.960Uh, yes, there are some people, and I want to, I want to keep it in the scope of reality.
01:44:41.140You know, there are people here that are waking up that said only 10%, and I'm not saying a vote for Trump is a good thing, but just as an illustration, only 10% of San Francisco voted for Trump.
01:44:50.400So you're dealing with a very hyper liberal society here in San Francisco, um, that supports those things more than anything.
01:44:56.620But there are people, even in the gaming industry that are waking up to this and think this stuff is so silly.
01:45:01.620And, and Glenn, I've expressed it in the past. Uh, I went to Northeastern in Boston and I studied American history and I couldn't imagine, you know, I graduated in 2007 and I couldn't imagine being in college now where people are restricted.
01:45:13.260I took a bunch of classes on Nazi Germany, for instance, or the civil war, the bloodiest conflict, as I'm sure you know, as you're very learned it, uh, in American history.
01:45:20.500And I couldn't imagine how they might teach those things now, um, to kind of placate people or to make sure that they're coddled.
01:45:26.080Um, and so, so yeah, there are people waking up, but what's disappointing to me is I'm one of the only ones speaking outwardly and I'm the proxy for a lot of people that are afraid to talk.
01:45:35.100They talk to me, people at gaming companies, all the way up to CEOs of game companies down to the lowest trenches, as I told Dave, will talk to me and tell me, I believe what you say, but man, I'm afraid to say it because they're going to get ridiculed in the public population.
01:45:48.900So then what makes you, what, what, what do you say to people like that? What makes you heroic, um, uh, and, uh, and, and them not willing to do something that is now considered heroic?
01:46:03.660I think, you know, uh, I, I, I try not to judge anyone for that. I think that there's a real fear for people's jobs. These people have families. They don't want to be, you know, basically blacklisted, uh, from the industry. Um, as people have, you know, by, you know, the fact they'll kind of tried to do to me over the years.
01:46:21.880And as you see, um, you know, with this joke, people came down, I mean, no one's offended by that joke, Glenn. I don't believe anyone. I don't know that joke. I agree. Nobody's offended by that. They've seen opportunity. They've seen opportunity to take down someone that speaks a different language than them. Yep. Um, so, so to me, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. So do you. I was going to say, I was going to say, so to me, it's, it's just, I understand people's fear, but I'm also kind of getting exhausted by being their proxy because I know they're out there. Um, and you know, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was,
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01:47:21.880than people think it is hey i would i would be um uh it would be wrong of me to have you on
01:47:28.460and because a lot of people that listen to you um don't like me because i have said quoting um
01:47:36.160colonel i'm trying to remember his name he wrote on killing um and he is one of the he is the
01:47:42.420leading expert uh on killing and uh and has developed all of these programs for the pentagon
01:47:50.540to be able to get people to have a positive shooting experience how do we get guys to shoot
01:47:57.760uh when they first get off the back of an airplane etc etc and he has said um and his research shows
01:48:05.680that um video games help break down a mental wall that allow they don't they don't make you into a
01:48:13.260killer but they break down a mental wall where it makes it easier for you to kill um and that is
01:48:19.920somehow very controversial for me to even say i don't believe video games make you into a killer
01:48:25.560i think you have something inside of you or don't have something inside of you but it does break down
01:48:31.900a a wall do you want to tell me off for that i want to give your i want to give your fans an
01:48:38.600opportunity to say yeah all right you told him i mean i have no interest in in telling anyone off
01:48:44.760for a differing opinion or whatever like that you know but but but to me i'm not an expert in it i
01:48:49.520haven't read the work you're talking about yes um what i will say is that it doesn't it doesn't
01:48:54.500belie the least for me to say if a person plays grand that thought of five and he might already
01:48:58.600have some pre-existing mental condition or some pre-existing propensity as you said to do something
01:49:03.400already that running around in a car murdering people with it might set that person off is that
01:49:08.840possible i'm sure that it probably is uh but i try to keep the numbers in balance this is actually a
01:49:14.180similar argument to what i use uh with with the right to own a gun which is to say grand death auto
01:49:18.880five which is a very violent very provocative game has sold 70 million units around the world one of
01:49:24.780the best-selling games of all time if there are five people that play grand death auto five and go on
01:49:29.060and and go on to kill someone because they were inspired by that i know it sounds kind of kind of
01:49:33.280strange but that's a really almost mathematically insignificant number of people if that makes any
01:49:37.420sense similarly to a person that has access to a gun should we none of us have access to a gun
01:49:42.180because a mentally unstable person has access to a gun and kill them so i always defer you know it's
01:49:48.080like the old benjamin franklin quote about you defer to liberty over over kind of security in that
01:49:53.380regard and so i i take a similar stance there can something like that set someone off of course
01:49:58.160i'm sure that's possible uh colin i'd love to talk to you again colin moriarty he is the co-founder
01:50:02.920of kind of funny.com um and it's it's great meeting you really great meeting you thanks colin i appreciate
01:50:09.600it thank you so much i appreciate it the amount of time i killed playing twisted metal back in the day
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01:51:03.920you know what's what's really interesting is um stew and i were talking some of these people come on
01:51:20.060and they're um and they it's almost and i'm not saying this about colin but we've had other people
01:51:27.460that almost uh want to make a point of yeah i'm conservative but i'm not on this and this and
01:51:35.600this because it's it's there it's it's it's out of fear it's uh i want to make sure nobody puts me
01:51:42.400into that box the same stuff colin was talking about right yeah i mean with the people he's talking
01:51:46.600to in san francisco yeah and and so uh they appear to be the opposite kind of of who they are they're
01:51:54.780almost a sheepish or apologetic uh conservative but again like i said to colin i don't know what
01:52:01.600it means to be a conservative to the general public i know what it means to me this is the glenn beck