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00:01:42.880He is a fantastic talk show host that kind of lost his talk show gig because of why we have him on today.
00:01:52.800Something that has made him known in some circles as a conspiracy theorist.
00:01:58.200I'm not sure what this, I'm not sure how this story plays out, but he has a fascinating theory on a very big news item that was ground shaking when it happened in, what was it, 2010?
00:02:18.420And it's back in the news this week in a big way.
00:02:20.300Yeah, back in the news again this week.
00:02:22.040We wanted to have him here because I think, I'm fascinated by his theory and it may or may not be right, I don't know, but in the age of fake news, this is, what we need to do is start to have a serious conversation about whatever it, the Russians.
00:02:42.880Let's have a serious conversation without any politics in it.
00:02:47.280So we're going to, he's going to, he's joining us now and we're going to get into this here in just a second.
00:02:52.580A list of some of the federal agencies that are going to be eliminated under Trump.
00:02:58.400I can't imagine this happening, but here are the agencies.
00:09:25.120I've never seen this written about anywhere else, but it is my theory that the republic, as our founders knew it, ended with Andrew Jackson.
00:09:34.960We went from divine providence to manifest destiny.
00:09:41.160We went from being friends with the Indians to making the Indians arch enemies and violating every treaty, violating our word.
00:09:52.600We went from an office of honor with the president to an office where he was gobbling up the land, telling his friends,
00:10:02.160hey, I'm going to gobble up this land, you might want to go out there, see how much you think it's worth so you can buy it.
00:10:07.840He came in destitute and left a modern-day billionaire.
00:12:14.600Trump also yesterday said there's some very interesting items related to wiretapping that are going to come out in the next couple of weeks.
00:12:33.060I mean, he obviously does not have evidence of this, right?
00:12:36.780But what he does, the idea that they're holding him to a standard, like, 1940s wiretap, like, what they meant is a wiretap of this specific, like, if it's surveillance of his computers, I mean, he would still have a case.
00:12:49.620He doesn't seem to have any evidence to support that case.
00:19:16.600And so now I figured, you know, once you've defended Sarah Palin, it's pretty easy to move on to Jerry Sandusky.
00:19:24.100Look, I fully realize that the vast majority of people who have only followed this story over the last five and a half years via headlines, this sounds crazy, but it's not.
00:19:33.540Okay, we're going to get into this case.
00:19:35.720I want you to listen carefully to this.
00:20:25.980Jerry Sandusky is back in the news right now.
00:20:29.720If you don't remember the name, give me the less than a minute recap on Penn State.
00:20:35.720In November 2011, Jerry Sandusky, former defensive coordinator for Penn State, a very famous coach, but had been retired for many years, was arrested on child molestation charges.
00:20:57.700Penn State paid out almost $100 million in settlements.
00:21:01.240This week, two Penn State administrators pled guilty to a misdemeanor after the conspiracy charges after five and a half years were dropped.
00:21:09.220Next week, Graham Spaniard, the former president of Penn State, will stand trial on these very sane charges.
00:21:16.720He will not plead guilty unless something really bizarre happens and an innocent man's life is on the line.
00:21:23.160But to me, Glenn, this story is much bigger than Penn State, much bigger than even Graham Spaniard's freedom or Joe Paterno's legacy.
00:21:31.800I have no connection to Penn State at all.
00:21:33.960I stupidly got involved in this five and a half years ago because the story, to use a phrase we now are all very familiar with, sounded immediately to me like fake news.
00:21:44.200And as you guys know, we've done some stories together before.
00:21:47.080I have a pretty good nose for this kind of thing.
00:21:49.200And I have coached high school football in several different states.
00:21:53.000I've covered college football, pro football.
00:21:58.540In fact, I actually have disdain for Penn State now after five and a half years of this.
00:22:04.400But I also understand the way the news media works.
00:22:07.680And I got involved in this just trying to find out what the heck the truth was, presuming that Jerry Sandusky was guilty as hell.
00:22:14.540That was my presumption at the beginning of this.
00:22:16.360But that the Joe Paterno angle just never made any sense because there was this idea that there was a cover up that he had been told that by an assistant coach, Mike McQuarrie, that Jerry had had abused the boy sexually and Paterno did nothing.
00:22:29.440And Penn State just decided to pretend it never happened.
00:22:32.480It made no sense for 100 million reasons.
00:22:34.940But one of which was Sandusky was retired.
00:22:37.780He was he wasn't even part of the program at that point.
00:22:40.360And not to mention, it didn't fit with the culture of Penn State nor college football as I know it.
00:22:46.560Well, as I got deeper and deeper into it and I interviewed Sandusky and it certainly didn't fit with the character of Joe Paterno.
00:22:53.540I mean, Joe Paterno was a stellar coach on and off the field.
00:22:58.780He was the most winning coach in the history of college football, but also ran a stellar program.
00:23:04.360No hint of scandal and a guy who was a squeaky clean, you know, 1950s kind of conservative Republican, by the way, friends of the Bush family.
00:23:15.140But we what we oftentimes see people that are right, that are living a double life.
00:23:21.200And you're like, oh, well, they can't be.
00:23:23.660It was always the quiet one on the street that ended up having the heads in the refrigerator.
00:23:27.360Well, I understand. And that's part. There's so many elements of the perfect storm here, one of which is that this story breaks in Pennsylvania, not long after the whole Catholic church scandal.
00:23:39.540Right. And because of that, it sets a prism through which everybody, especially in the news media, they see this.
00:23:45.900They see Paterno as the pope. They see the administrators as the cardinals.
00:23:49.940They see Sandusky. Oh, he's the pedophile priest. And they see the Penn State football fans as, oh, these are the Catholic parishioners who love their football so much,
00:23:58.820their religion of football, that they're willing to look the other way and pretend that a pedophile didn't really exist.
00:24:07.020That narrative is is real in many cases. People don't want to look at this stuff.
00:24:13.540I understand that. But but that's what set this case up for a massive injustice.
00:24:18.380So as I got involved more and more and I was just looking for the truth, I interviewed Sandusky not once but twice in prison for six hours.
00:24:25.960Plus, went on the Today Show not once but twice. The second time, Matt Lauer very nicely declared my career to be dead three years ago this week.
00:24:34.780But I figured, OK, you know, if you're going to die on a hill, this is a pretty good hill to die on.
00:24:38.880And trust me, I've taken enough bullets to understand the reality of that.
00:24:42.420What I realized was that the only way to make this case make any sense at all is it, shockingly, the part of the case that no one took a look at,
00:24:52.760no one bothered to do the math on the Jerry Sandusky element is a myth that Jerry Sandusky is, in fact, innocent.
00:25:00.880And it's not even close. That's what's so amazing about this.
00:25:05.260But we start a domino effect that the Joe Paterno firing and people who are not from Pennsylvania can't fully understand the psychological impact of the firing of Joe Paterno.
00:25:16.680This was this was a nuclear explosion over this entire case.
00:25:21.260It was like people's entire lives had been turned upside down.
00:25:24.780Everything they thought they knew. I mean, this was worse than the Trump election for liberals.
00:25:29.100I mean, everything is upside down. And in reality, to understand this case fully, you have to understand that the moment of Paterno's firing,
00:25:39.180all the incentives in this case get flipped upside down. Everybody's incentives are now perverse.
00:25:46.220All the white hats turn into black hats and the black hats turn into white hats.
00:25:50.760And and from that moment on, we have a domino effect of injustice.
00:25:56.320I like to use the metaphor that this whole case is a painting that everyone looks at and goes, this makes no damn sense.
00:26:03.560And I came along and said, here's why I flipped it upside down.
00:26:08.820And people go, oh, my gosh. OK, so flip it upside down.
00:26:12.220Here's what happens. The real story of this is a classic case of when people think,
00:26:19.260think that they are doing the right moral thing, stopping pedophilia or just against injustice against children.
00:26:26.580And they become invested in a month in a myth.
00:26:30.820I'll use this audience will fully understand the parallel to global warming.
00:26:35.620OK, this is manmade global warming because we have a consensus of science, allegedly.
00:26:43.000And because we are doing the right thing for humanity, you are a bad person.
00:26:49.520If you disagree, if you even question it, you are a bad person.
00:26:55.320Well, that's what happened in this case. I'm the bad person.
00:26:58.880I'm the bad person who actually said you're you're viewed not as saying, wait a minute, let's look for the truth.
00:27:04.820You're looking you're looked upon as a guy who wants to let a pedophile get away.
00:27:10.440Exactly. Which is the plan, which is what. And so why is it that I'm the guy?
00:27:14.220All right. So because I'm sure that's a lot of the first thing I did when I saw you tweeting about this,
00:27:18.040which was check to see if you graduated from Penn State.
00:27:20.200Right. I went to Georgetown University. OK, that's number one.
00:27:23.460Number two, I have zero financial motive at all.
00:27:27.140My website, framing paterno dot com takes no ads.
00:27:30.520I've got hundreds of videos on YouTube, no ads.
00:27:33.160I have purposely lost money on this case.
00:27:35.940My career, as Lauer predicted, has been crap because of this.
00:27:39.540And my you know, my wife is is I don't know why she stuck with me through it all.
00:27:44.540But I know I'm right. And it's not close.
00:27:47.820I can go through detail by detail as to why this happened the way that it did.
00:27:52.500But mostly it happened because the focus shifted at the beginning of the case away.
00:27:58.000Think about this case as a mathematical equation, a complex mathematical equation.
00:28:02.200You know, one number times another number times another number.
00:28:05.800Everyone thought the first number was something other than zero.
00:28:09.200Well, I did the math and I said, wait a minute.
00:28:10.900The first number is zero, which means the whole equation and zero times anything is still going to be zero.
00:28:17.980And the thing about this, Glenn, which is really incredibly frustrating for me, I'm not the only guy that knows this.
00:28:23.920Almost everybody on the inside of this story knows it, including the three administrators who were facing trial, two of whom pled guilty to a misdemeanor this week.
00:28:33.480The other Graham Spanier who faces trial next week and people in the Penn State Board of Trustees know this.
00:28:39.820But everyone is afraid to talk about it.
00:28:43.040There's never been a case where fear, cowardice and stupidity reigned more supreme than this one because everyone's afraid of the news media.
00:28:51.620And they they are now like trying to tell the news media the truth about this case is like trying to convince a five year old that Santa Claus doesn't exist.
00:28:59.360They are completely and totally invested.
00:29:02.400So you're saying that the number with the reason why that number is zero is because the victim victim number one.
00:29:19.380I presume for my first two years of this investigation, he must be telling the truth because I was told child abuse victims never lie.
00:29:26.700And, you know, he he made himself known publicly.
00:29:30.000The only trial accuser that did so he did an interview with Chris Cuomo in 2020, which if you look at now on YouTube, you can tell he's not telling the truth because he doesn't act like a sex abuse victim at all and says some very suspicious things.
00:29:41.680But I spent two years not even worrying about him.
00:29:45.480I now have 12 people on the record on audio.
00:29:51.140I haven't released all of them at framing paternal dot com, but most of them, 12 people, incredibly close to him.
00:29:56.580I'm talking aunts, very close buddies from the time period of the allegation, parents of the buddies of the time period of the allegation, girlfriends, people who sponsored a rally on his behalf.
00:30:07.080When his book came out, 12 people against their own self-interest to have all said they're positive.
00:30:49.240This is why he took an interest in that age kid.
00:30:52.380He's a very naive, I think stupid in a lot of ways, guy who's very religious and who never dreamed that anybody was going to think that this was somehow nefarious.
00:31:05.200The mom who under his her watch, she gets abused by his trial testimony a hundred times, a hundred times as a 13, 14 year old.
00:31:14.580By the way, while he's dating girls and having sex with them, according to his buddies, she is now driving a Mercedes, a Jaguar, a Cadillac Escalade and living in a giant house.
00:31:29.200Now, how in the world any mother could possibly have the lack of guilt to drive those cars when it's money that was gotten because you were such a bad mom?
00:31:40.180You kept feeding your son to a horrendous pedophile is beyond me.
00:31:44.380But that's one very tiny tip of this entire humongous iceberg.
00:31:49.480The reason that this is so important is if he's lying and I know that he is, he's what they use to build the rest of the case.
00:35:28.280We didn't know that at the time, which is incredibly important.
00:35:31.540Had we known then what we know now, I think this whole story changes because the boy who's publicly known in public records is Alan Myers, the guy who Penn State paid three million dollars for being that boy, never testifies the trial.
00:35:45.480Now, the media is shockingly uninterested in the fact that the victim of the most famous case of John Wall Station in the history of this country never testified.
00:35:55.520Because he had made multiple statements, including in letters to the editor in local newspapers, defending Jerry Sandusky after the original story of this broke in the local newspaper.
00:36:05.660And he has an incredibly long history after this event with Jerry Sandusky, which is impossible for someone who had been abused in the shower and has made numerous statements saying, Jerry Sandusky never abused me.
00:36:19.860Mike McQuarrie is not telling the truth.
00:36:21.720Jerry is the greatest thing that ever happened to me.
00:36:23.400But then after the crap hits the fan and the world changes and Joe Paterno is fired and the polls switch, he gets paid three million dollars by Penn State.
00:36:32.340And that portion of the case is closed off, except for people like me, stupid enough to look into it.
00:39:43.420And it is one of those things that even if you don't have experiences or you're not involved in some of the things I am, that it still is near and dear to your heart.
00:39:54.040Because nobody wants to see a child abuser go free.
00:39:57.940And as I'm listening to you, I'm thinking to myself, well, yeah, but that's what, you know, a child abuse victim would or could behave in this way.
00:40:09.600But deny it, try to carry on in a different way, defend the defenseless, if you will, and then when all is said and done, break and say, okay, all right, I just have to face it and get out.
00:40:27.140And so it feels as though it's almost wrong.
00:41:20.060I mean, and by the way, there should be massive amounts of evidence in other cases that are similar.
00:41:25.900There's actual evidence other than what kind of evidence.
00:41:29.480Well, first of all, the most stunning thing is not a shred of pornography.
00:41:33.220Please, someone out there, find me another case of a serial pedophile in this day and age, a guy who I know personally is technologically a dunce, is able to scrub every ounce of pornography off of their computers, emails.
00:41:51.180Well, ironically, there was pornography found in this case.
00:42:46.760All you have to do is ask the kid or look at the kid.
00:42:49.520You can't ask him now because he got paid $3 million.
00:42:51.920But if you look at his prior statements, including on the day Joe Paterno was fired, he made it clear.
00:42:57.120I have photographs I've shown all you guys of Jerry Sandusky and this guy, Alan Myers, together many years later, including at Alan Myers' wedding, in his Marine uniform, taking a photograph with Jerry Sandusky.
00:43:07.880A photo that was released as part of Jerry Sandusky's resignation letter from his charity, which, by the way, if he's a criminal mastermind, is the dumbest thing in the history of the world.
00:43:17.480Yeah, they continued to have a relationship throughout much of his life.
00:50:15.280By the way, of the many mainstream media types who follow my work carefully, Bob Costas is at the top of the list.
00:50:24.200I mean, I communicate with Bob on a fairly regular basis.
00:50:26.940And Bob, I don't want to speak for Bob, but Bob was the guy that did the interview, and Bob is still exceedingly interested in what really happened.
00:50:36.060Because I remember playing the interview back in 11 or 12, whenever that was, and we were pretty convinced that Sandusky was guilty at that point.
00:50:45.700Of course you were. It was such a bad answer.
00:50:47.080Because he was asked if he was attracted to young boys, and he said, sexually attracted?
00:57:46.700In the last episode, we learned that Stalin's horrific, intentional starvation of the Ukrainian people called the Holodomor, the mass starvation, which claimed between 7 and 10 million people in just one year.
00:58:02.720It's amazing that such an atrocity is largely hidden from our textbooks and absent from historical conversations.
00:58:10.380Unlike Stalin's hideous cleansing, the carnage of another mass murderer lie within our periphery at all times.
00:58:18.720Pop culture has embraced this genocidal dictator so much so that you actually see Che Guevara's face everywhere.
00:58:26.780As the editor-in-chief of Reason.com, Nick Gillespie, explains.
00:58:47.600One of the things that is fascinating about the cult of Che is that it effectively thrives in the absence of any kind of historical understanding.
00:58:56.520For example, look around at an anti-war rally and you'll probably see Che.
00:59:01.620Che was a, you know, a self-taught revolutionary who was instrumental in Castro's takeover of Cuba.
00:59:07.380He became known as the butcher of La Cabana prison in revolutionary Cuba, where he personally oversaw the execution of anywhere from 175 to several hundred people.
00:59:18.080He's implicated in thousands of deaths that come after that.
00:59:21.840Author of Exposing the Real Che Guevara, Umberto Fantova explains.
00:59:27.12014,000 men and boys were executed in Cuba during the 1960s.
00:59:34.140He said that his dream was to become a killing machine.
00:59:37.380He said to his revolutionary comrades, if they weren't sure of someone's loyalty, if in doubt, kill him.
00:59:43.860These are the realities that we need to understand about Che.
00:59:46.680You could probably call him clinically a sadist.
00:59:49.500When you read his diaries, he goes into particular detail about when he himself shoots people in the head.
01:00:25.560At the 2005 Oscars, naturally, the Immortal Cycle Diaries won an Oscar and Carlos Santana went there to play the theme song for it.
01:00:34.900Well, he was wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt.
01:00:37.580Carlos Santana was showing off the emblem of a regime that made it a criminal offense to listen to Carlos Santana music.
01:00:44.980But surely Che was a progressive and uniting force on race, right?
01:00:51.160He says the Negro is lazy and indolent and spends all of his money on frivolities and booze, whereas the European is intelligent and forward-looking.
01:01:05.360This is from his own diaries, yet we've got Jesse Jackson down there.
01:01:22.800Either that or this guy doesn't know that this guy would have thought that this guy was nothing but a frivolous, lazy drunk just because of the color of his skin.
01:01:35.340So what's wrong with wearing the t-shirt of a warmongering, bloodthirsty racist?
01:01:42.400Well, what if he was also a terrorist, too?
01:01:45.260To his home, to his places of work, to his places of recreation.
01:01:50.040We will attack the enemy wherever he lives.
01:02:54.120In Cuba, we see time and again people who are so desperate to get off that island hellhole that they will swim through shark-infested waters.
01:03:02.540Che was the vanguard of the revolution.
01:03:04.460He was going to bring communism everywhere around the world.
01:03:06.840In this sense, Che was an absolute abject failure, and it's a damn good thing that he was.
01:03:12.900This is Barbara Rangel's grandfather, Colonel Cornelio Rojas.
01:03:17.280He was a freedom fighter way before Batista came into power.
01:04:51.500It's murder, destruction, and broken families.
01:04:55.320So what can we do to correct the lies?
01:04:58.700Maybe it's time to make the truth a bit more fashionable.
01:05:01.900In the next episode, we learn the truth of one of the most prolific communist killers in history, the chairman, Mao Zedong.
01:05:12.060Tomorrow in the Glenn Beck program, in chapter four of the truth about communism, you'll learn about the great helmsman and why he wasn't great at all.
01:05:22.040Listen live or online at glennbeck.com slash serials.
01:05:25.840To me, this is why what we're going through is so frightening because nobody knows what communism is.
01:17:59.460Ironically, you know, I presume that Jerry Sandusky was guilty as hell when the story broke.
01:18:03.020That was the first moment that I thought, maybe he's innocent, even though I knew it was such a bad answer that a trained pedophile had gotten away with us for so long, couldn't possibly have given that answer.
01:18:16.800But there's another element to this, though, that's also important.
01:18:20.500And I'm glad that you guys played the first part of that.
01:28:13.880And so and by the way, four of those six are friends.
01:28:18.200And oh, by the way, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter on this case, Sarah Gannon, now at CNN, had texted the mom of one of those four saying they're going to close the case unless we find more accusers.
01:28:31.080And then suddenly, shockingly, three of his buddies show up as accusers.
01:28:37.020So four of the six are all in the same photograph in Jerry Sandusky's book.
01:28:42.040Now, who puts that who puts a photograph of themselves with four of their victims in their book called Touched?
01:29:18.520The only witness was a hearsay witness because the original witness allegedly had dementia and couldn't testify.
01:29:26.460Except we learned the janitor, the janitor, except we learned after the trial that the janitor with dementia had been interviewed by the prosecution and three times in this interview said it was not Jerry Sandusky that he saw the prosecution.
01:29:43.860The prosecution clearly saw that and said, guess what, sir?
01:29:48.480You have dementia because you didn't give us our proper answer.
01:29:51.800That that's the definition of dementia in this case, giving the wrong answer for the prosecution that that that alone right there is should have people going crazy over.
01:31:13.700And I will tell you, we're going to be doing a special later in the year on a court case that I went through that I've lost all faith in the judicial system.
01:31:24.080And I settled the case, but I settled under the condition that everything is public, that all records could be open, all testimony, everything could be sealed.
01:31:36.880I wanted it open for the public to see.
01:31:41.840And we're going to be showing you some of the things that will make you question, does justice does justice exist in America?
01:31:52.420Now, I don't know about this case, but if there's an innocent man and the taxpayers of Pennsylvania paying money to people, they shouldn't be paying money to.
01:32:08.340And I don't know about you, but I want justice to actually stand.
01:32:15.360I want I want one time for somebody to listen to the little guy who's screaming out and saying injustice, injustice and not being railroaded by the media and by attorneys and everybody else by political correctness.
01:32:30.160I don't know if it's this case, but I'm listening to John because I know he's lost almost everything and he doesn't want this case.
01:32:40.220I still feel that burden to tell the truth because no one else will.
01:32:48.020Now, this did you identify the bad habit that can put you in increased risk of hack and identity theft?
01:32:55.520Can you identify the one bad habit that you might have?
01:32:58.520Do you have the same password for multiple accounts?
01:33:03.560I will tell you that there's going to come a time when you're just going to have to have a universal password and that key is going to open up everything else for you because I can't memorize any more accounts and passwords.
01:34:09.420We're talking about the Penn State scandal in a whole different way that I'm not sure how I feel about yet, but it's an amazing take you have on it.
01:34:18.600A lot of people are probably wondering, why did this happen?
01:34:24.800First of all, why did the media go after him?
01:34:27.080And you kind of have a theory about that, don't you?
01:34:28.960Well, 100% that part of what drove this original firestorm is the fact that the liberal media loved destroying a goody-two-shoes conservative like Joe Paterno,
01:34:37.720who had an awful relationship with the media because he knew what morons they were his whole life.
01:35:55.160In a normal case, this would be big news, but all the bets are off, all the rules are off on this particular case.
01:36:01.860This week, and you can find it at framingpaterno.com, through Dan Abrams' website, Law News,
01:36:06.880I released a federal report done by a federal investigative services special agent by the name of John Sneddon,
01:36:14.640who investigated the entire Penn State situation after the story broke in November 2011
01:36:19.420because Graham Spanier, who's going on trial next week, had a top secret and a very top secret security clearance with the federal government.
01:36:27.220By the way, no one really knows why, but he's the president of Penn State.