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00:00:09.140 Ron Reagan has come out for the Freedom From Religion Foundation

00:00:16.620 and he's trading on his father's name, which I find a little despicable,

00:00:22.180 but he has a right to say his point of view.

00:00:25.440 But should he point out that, hey, my dad and I, you know, disagreed on a lot of stuff?

00:00:35.040 Does he have a right to trade on his father's name the way he does?

00:00:40.980 Also, just a horrible story from Calgary about a couple who let their son die.

00:00:48.600 He was 15 years old.

00:00:50.100 He was diabetic, he had diabetes, and they didn't treat him at all.

00:00:59.060 He was 15 years old.

00:01:01.600 When he died, they say he looked mummified.

00:01:04.860 He was 37 pounds.

00:01:09.240 They're claiming religion caused them to not treat their son.

00:01:16.760 They're going away for life.

00:01:18.660 Where is that line on religious freedom?

00:01:23.820 We begin there right now.

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00:01:55.820 Out of Calgary, Canada, the painful death of a diabetic boy who was so emaciated, he appeared 0.90

00:02:03.380 mummified, could have been avoided if his parents had not isolated and neglected him for years.

00:02:09.460 This is according to a judge.

00:02:10.980 Last Friday, he found the couple guilty of first-degree murder.

00:02:17.100 Justice Karen Horner said Emil and Rhodicia Radita, 54, were equally guilty of murdering their 15-year-old son.

00:02:28.280 The boy, one of eight children, weighed less than 37 pounds when he died of complications due to untreated diabetes and starvation.

00:02:39.400 They intended to and did isolate Alex from anyone who could intervene or monitor his insulin treatment aside from themselves, said the judge.

00:02:48.540 Alex died as a result of bacterial septus brought on by extreme starvation.

00:02:56.040 His physical condition at death was not sudden or a quick occurrence.

00:03:01.180 It rather took place over months and possibly years.

00:03:06.000 He was unlawfully confined and totally reliant on his parents.

00:03:11.120 The parents knew what they were doing when they denied him insulin.

00:03:14.680 Apparently, the family tried to make the case that it was a religious thing that kept him from being treated.

00:03:26.300 They refused to accept that their son had diabetes and failed to treat the disease.

00:03:33.900 He was hospitalized near death in 2003.

00:03:38.560 Social workers took him out of the hospital, put him in foster care.

00:03:42.600 He thrived, he got better, and then a judge put him back into the hands of his parents.

00:03:52.160 And his parents isolated him, kept him away from everyone, and they moved to Alberta and he died.

00:04:03.480 It's interesting because it's 2013, 10 years later.

00:04:06.220 They said their religious beliefs included not going to doctors.

00:04:09.300 Where did the starvation come from?

00:04:12.800 Did it also, do your religious beliefs not include food?

00:04:17.100 They apparently did for the parents.

00:04:19.860 They're eating just fine.

00:04:21.120 I think they had eight kids, so it was okay for the other seven kids.

00:04:24.500 My understanding, I think I read in one of the articles about it, was that something with his condition made it difficult for him to eat if he didn't cure his condition.

00:04:31.840 Yeah, without the insulin, probably.

00:04:33.100 Without the insulin.

00:04:33.760 He had a hard time eating.

00:04:34.300 Yeah, he had a hard time eating.

00:04:36.020 I mean, it's like, you look at these things, and we've had, there's, one of these stories pops up every few months,

00:04:40.480 where the parents do something that is ill-advised, but they really believe it.

00:04:46.680 I would say this is more than ill-advised.

00:04:48.280 I know, well, that's why I said, I'm just saying, every few months, there's a story like this.

00:04:52.320 This one, to me, is so blatantly over the line that it's clear.

00:04:58.620 However, I don't know how to define that line.

00:05:00.840 Yeah, I don't know where that line is either, because I don't want to get involved in...

00:05:05.500 Taking kids from their parents.

00:05:07.080 Yeah.

00:05:07.680 Or stepping on religious beliefs.

00:05:09.240 Right.

00:05:09.800 I mean, for instance, remember the kid who had cancer, and it was his, I think, second or third bout of chemo.

00:05:19.480 And the kid said, I don't want any more.

00:05:23.860 I don't want any more.

00:05:25.600 And the parent said, okay.

00:05:27.660 And he said, I want to try, you know, herbal therapy or whatever.

00:05:32.620 And the state came in, and I believe took him.

00:05:36.860 They did.

00:05:37.300 Did they not?

00:05:37.700 Yeah.

00:05:38.500 I don't think you have a right to do that.

00:05:42.740 But what is different about that and this?

00:05:47.720 They refused treatment.

00:05:50.700 It made it so the kid couldn't eat.

00:05:53.640 I think this is so egregious, but I'm okay with the cancer kid.

00:05:57.480 What's the difference?

00:06:00.480 And this is where, because I think a lot of times we talk about conservatism as like, you know, you make black and white decisions.

00:06:07.500 And, you know, there's right and there's wrong.

00:06:09.660 And you follow the thing that's right and wrong.

00:06:12.380 This is one where progressivism is easier because progressivism just says, if we think there's anything mildly out of step of what we think, we come in and take the kid.

00:06:20.460 Like, as a progressive, this is an easy decision.

00:06:22.420 You take the kid all the time, right?

00:06:24.000 Anytime you think there's anything out of step.

00:06:25.880 With a conservative, this is harder because, I mean, we're not talking about minor things here.

00:06:30.080 We're talking about the rights of parents.

00:06:31.840 We're talking about the, you know, freedom of religion.

00:06:34.680 These are big issues that can overwhelm almost anything.

00:06:39.360 But you know what?

00:06:40.080 I think the average person, even conservative, will say, this is easy.

00:06:44.760 This is easy.

00:06:45.400 You take the kid.

00:06:46.000 He's 37 pounds.

00:06:47.820 And, yeah, it is until you stop and say, okay, but where is that line?

00:06:55.520 Was it at 80 pounds?

00:06:58.000 Is it just because it's diabetes and it's so easily treatable?

00:07:02.220 And not cancer, which is much more difficult and a much more difficult treatment process.

00:07:06.060 I didn't want to do the cancer treatment because, you know, he was like, I've gone through it.

00:07:11.380 And I don't want to spend the last parts of my life going there.

00:07:15.780 It's killing me.

00:07:16.840 I think even if you haven't gone through it, to be able to say, no, I don't want poison.

00:07:25.380 And, yes, I know it's going to kill me.

00:07:28.480 Insulin isn't poisoning the body.

00:07:30.440 It's not poisoning the body.

00:07:31.260 It's giving the body what it needs.

00:07:32.560 So there's a big difference there.

00:07:34.880 And, you know, before a kid gets to 37 pounds, there certainly is some place where you say, okay, we need to step in here and take him out of it.

00:07:44.200 37 pounds?

00:07:45.600 At 15 years old, too.

00:07:46.520 I don't know how he lived that long.

00:07:48.400 I don't know either.

00:07:48.840 Because, you know, you remember my daughter who got down to 82 pounds when she was 19.

00:07:54.260 She had a really rare thing where the aorta that fed her stomach was completely choked off by a ligament.

00:08:04.880 And so she had no blood going to her stomach and she couldn't eat.

00:08:07.520 So she got down from, you know, 110 to 82.

00:08:10.280 And we were beside ourselves getting her to doctors.

00:08:12.740 Yeah, she looked anorexic.

00:08:13.220 So at 82 pounds, she was in a life-threatening situation.

00:08:17.000 The doctor finally said, okay, I'm putting her in the hospital and we're not going to let her out until we find out what's going on. 1.00

00:08:23.160 And so for a 15-year-old boy, you would think a 15-year-old boy and a 19-year-old girl might be maybe around the same weight.

00:08:29.980 Oh, yeah.

00:08:31.680 110, 120, 130.

00:08:33.100 So he should have been 110, 120, 130.

00:08:36.180 30, 100 pounds less than he should have been?

00:08:40.220 There had to be a place somewhere along that line where he said, okay, enough.

00:08:44.080 But again, wait a minute.

00:08:46.020 Wait a minute.

00:08:47.300 Wait a minute.

00:08:50.120 We all will agree that insulin is medicine.

00:08:53.280 Yeah.

00:08:53.400 If you have a religion and you are against medicine, don't you have a right to reject it?

00:09:01.540 Now, here's the complicated part.

00:09:03.260 Yes, you do for yourself.

00:09:05.720 But if you're raising your family and you say, we reject medicine, don't you have a right to raise your children in that faith?

00:09:15.160 If it's against your faith.

00:09:17.640 Remember, we wouldn't be having this conversation if it were, for instance, we're not having the conversation in America that honor killing is wrong.

00:09:32.140 We are brooming that under the table.

00:09:35.700 That's happening here in America.

00:09:38.180 And we are being so politically correct that we're just brooming that under the table.

00:09:43.780 I'm going to take a stand against honor killing.

00:09:45.920 Yeah.

00:09:46.140 Right.

00:09:46.260 I'm going to say that's wrong.

00:09:47.100 Right.

00:09:47.640 And we can't allow it.

00:09:48.840 Correct.

00:09:49.540 But we're we all you know, the press will all go ape crap over stories like this.

00:09:56.400 And they'll say, you got to take them away from that.

00:09:58.800 Well, what about in families where they believe in honor killing?

00:10:02.360 Shouldn't we go in and rescue all of those kids?

00:10:05.000 And quite honestly, my answer there is yes.

00:10:09.720 And that's wrong.

00:10:10.960 Well, honor killing is a, you know, that's a murderous act.

00:10:15.660 Wait, wait, wait, wait, it doesn't have to go to honor killing.

00:10:17.820 There's a lot of people who are taught you dishonor the family and we will kill you.

00:10:24.680 It's because of the honor because of Allah tells us to and they don't necessarily get to honor killing.

00:10:33.100 Well, isn't that abusive to teach them that it winds up being look, you know, the free market works well in almost all circumstances here.

00:10:43.220 Most parents want the best for their kids.

00:10:44.960 They will do what they believe is right.

00:10:47.120 And what they believe is right is typically right.

00:10:50.240 You know, I mean, they might have wrong beliefs or they might have things that are crazy or you might think are kooky.

00:10:56.020 But the bottom line is when it comes to your kids health, we've seen this with a lot of people go in there and they say, well, I don't believe in X, Y and Z.

00:11:02.800 And there's herbal cures and blah, blah, blah.

00:11:04.320 And then when it comes down to they have the disease and it's getting close.

00:11:07.360 Doc doctor comes in and saves them.

00:11:09.220 Happens all the time.

00:11:10.100 I mean, because the belief is there, but the belief is, you know, it's there until holy crap, this isn't working.

00:11:17.840 What do I do?

00:11:18.440 Oh, I can get a shot and get this cured in a week.

00:11:20.560 Oh, maybe I'll try that one now.

00:11:22.360 I mean, so that is the way that typically plays out.

00:11:25.320 But sometimes these cases do exist and the line is almost impossible to find if you care about parental rights and and and freedom of religion.

00:11:34.860 Look, everybody says everybody always says special warriors.

00:11:41.080 Everybody's an atheist until they're in the foxhole. 0.74

00:11:44.480 Then they all find God.

00:11:45.980 I don't believe Penn Jillette will would find God that point.

00:11:49.280 He's already done his homework.

00:11:51.100 He knows and believes what he believes.

00:11:53.580 He's a guy that will, you know, would die with his belief, no matter how extreme it got.

00:12:00.340 But there are people, I think the vast majority, you're right, when your life or your kid's life is at stake, all of a sudden you abandon all those principles.

00:12:08.400 You do whatever you can.

00:12:09.860 There are people that believe it till the end.

00:12:14.100 We're not going to take medicine.

00:12:15.880 We're not going to do that.

00:12:17.340 Right.

00:12:17.560 And 99, the free market, the free principle of this, you know, the thing that we talk about is foundational freedom of religion.

00:12:24.960 And parental rights solves ninety nine point nine percent of these things.

00:12:28.220 But every once in a while, one of these cases comes out and it's at what point do you step in?

00:12:32.680 Because with children, they are not at the age level to make that decision themselves.

00:12:40.300 So now, in a way, you know, their religious belief, even if they're there believing it, they may wind up learning when they're 18 or 19.

00:12:50.540 Wait a minute.

00:12:50.920 I probably should have taken the aspirin, but you don't give them a chance to get to that point.

00:12:57.460 You know, so there is a point in which you have to step in.

00:13:01.520 Right.

00:13:01.760 And say, I'm not going to let this person.

00:13:03.760 We wouldn't have.

00:13:04.560 I mean, I know we say we're more evolved.

00:13:07.320 I'm not sure we are.

00:13:10.100 But there would have been back in the olden days.

00:13:15.000 That family just would have been avoided by the whole town.

00:13:17.760 That family is crazy.

00:13:19.620 You know, that family let their son die and everybody would have known and that just would have been their choice.

00:13:26.120 But we would have ostracized the public shaming versus death, though, is the issue.

00:13:30.580 And, you know, you have a you have a chance to save this person who can then make the decision if they want to take no medicine at 18.

00:13:37.180 So again, so where's the line?

00:13:39.540 Can you find the line in this story?

00:13:43.080 Where's the line?

00:13:43.840 And what are you drawing it on?

00:13:45.560 It said 70 pounds.

00:13:47.460 I'm going to draw 69.4 is where I was going.

00:13:49.680 70 pounds.

00:13:51.200 Okay.

00:13:51.540 Of course, they said, yes, he died.

00:13:53.360 The parents admitted he died, but he's been resurrected.

00:13:56.440 So this is all for naught anyway.

00:13:58.040 He's fine.

00:13:59.200 Oh, that's good.

00:13:59.640 Don't even worry about it.

00:14:00.540 He's been resurrected.

00:14:02.140 And see, it's hard to even.

00:14:04.620 I mean, we all believe in resurrection, right?

00:14:06.460 If you're Christian, we all believe that.

00:14:08.460 None of us believe this boy has been resurrected yet.

00:14:11.240 We believe he will be someday, but it hasn't happened yet.

00:14:14.880 But they believe it.

00:14:16.680 This is really hard.

00:14:18.740 It's just hard to know when you do that, because this is also a way.

00:14:22.920 We talked about this with some of the transgender bathroom issues, right? 0.98

00:14:25.800 Like our issue with the transgender bathroom issue is there's not necessarily a transgender person going into the opposite bathroom.

00:14:31.080 No, not at all.

00:14:31.980 It's a straight person who has now a legal defense built out for them whenever they want to go and go.

00:14:37.780 Oh, that never happens.

00:14:38.820 Well, the same thing exists here.

00:14:40.900 The same thing exists here in that a neglectful parent has this thing built for them.

00:14:47.440 If they don't care about their kid, they don't like their kid, they want their kid to die.

00:14:50.760 They can use this as an excuse and say, well, I'm not going to give them any medicine.

00:14:54.140 That's my religious belief.

00:14:56.240 Yeah, but I think you have to have more than just, that's my religious belief.

00:14:59.960 How?

00:15:00.440 On that particular.

00:15:01.000 How do you judge that, right?

00:15:02.820 Well, first, I think Christian scientists, aren't they the ones that don't believe in modern medicine? 0.99

00:15:09.780 So, I mean, I would say that you would have to have a long history of being a member of a church that actually believed that.

00:15:17.980 You couldn't just say, well, that's my religious belief.

00:15:20.440 But, I mean, first of all, you don't get to, you know, there have been new religions created over time where people were the first ones in, you know, that are members, right?

00:15:29.900 I mean, like, these are legitimate things that people have become traditional.

00:15:33.120 If you want to go ahead and start your religion, you know, and you're practicing your religion, but again, you couldn't just say, but if you were, you started a religion, you were practicing your religion, then, yeah, okay, I guess.

00:15:49.980 I mean, if you, you know, look, that is another line that's impossible to draw because people all the time can convert to something and change their beliefs.

00:15:59.060 And if they say, well, how are you going to, oh, you know what?

00:16:01.560 I think your religion is not legitimate. 1.00

00:16:03.360 This happened over years.

00:16:05.100 This happened between 2003 and 2013.

00:16:09.460 Yeah, this particular case.

00:16:10.080 It was 10 years that this was going on.

00:16:13.180 But if that would strengthen the argument here, right?

00:16:16.320 That would not weaken it.

00:16:17.300 It would strengthen it as to your standard, as to whether it was a long time and a long developed belief.

00:16:22.040 Well, I mean, I think you could say, yeah, it was.

00:16:23.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:24.440 So, which makes this case even more difficult.

00:16:27.600 But again, I think for every progressive, it's easy.

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00:18:04.480 The Glenn Beck Program.

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00:20:13.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:20:24.560 Hello and welcome to the program.

00:20:25.680 Glad you're here.

00:20:26.780 Put on your dancing boots.

00:20:28.020 I want to play something from a celebrity.

00:20:32.060 You know, we were just saying yesterday with the former governor of Kentucky, this, you know, 70-year-old guy who looked like he was in a VW hall, a VFW hall, giving the response to Donald Trump's State of the Union.

00:20:49.320 We said, you know, who do they have?

00:20:51.900 Who are they going to run?

00:20:54.140 Well, listen to this.

00:20:55.820 So, have you ever thought that, given the popularity you have, we haven't broken the glass ceiling yet for women, that you could actually run for president and actually be elected? 0.99

00:21:07.080 Oprah Winfrey is about to answer.

00:21:14.800 I actually never thought that that was, I never considered the question even a possibility.

00:21:25.820 I just thought, oh, oh.

00:21:29.920 Right, because it's clear that you don't need government experience to be elected president of the United States.

00:21:34.180 That's what I thought.

00:21:34.540 Right?

00:21:35.000 I thought, oh, gee, I don't have the experience.

00:21:37.440 I don't know enough.

00:21:38.560 I don't know.

00:21:39.140 And now I'm thinking, oh.

00:21:41.520 All right.

00:21:43.040 Oh, boy.

00:21:44.720 How many celebrities are thinking, oh, if Trump can do this, so can I?

00:21:49.260 I didn't know enough, but clearly I do now.

00:21:53.680 Opened.

00:21:54.280 Clearly, you don't need to.

00:21:55.700 It absolutely opened it up to everybody.

00:21:59.920 Opened my eyes.

00:22:01.560 Would not run.

00:22:03.200 But with Donald Trump running, I've always thought, well, I'd never run for president.

00:22:08.940 I could never run for president.

00:22:10.600 And even me, I even went, huh, maybe you could.

00:22:16.700 Me.

00:22:17.720 Huh.

00:22:18.540 So who else that actually has qualifications?

00:22:21.780 Think of a Tom Hanks.

00:22:22.980 Tom Hanks.

00:22:23.380 Who's universally beloved.

00:22:24.920 We don't like his politics, but even we love him.

00:22:27.100 I think Oprah Winfrey would not do as well as we think.

00:22:33.100 Although it could be another runaway.

00:22:36.520 She would be a black woman. 0.78

00:22:38.620 So it would be another historic election.

00:22:42.340 The press would love her.

00:22:44.260 You know, what role the press has and can play anymore.

00:22:49.060 I have no idea.

00:22:51.440 But she is, you know, she's got the Jeremiah Wright problem.

00:22:58.160 Again, she's.

00:22:59.040 That's shown to be such a huge problem in national politics.

00:23:02.160 I know.

00:23:02.520 But she would be what I'm saying is she would, again, I think, be very polarizing.

00:23:07.800 Tom Hanks would not be polarizing.

00:23:10.200 Not.

00:23:10.840 And I don't know that his politics would matter as liberal as they are.

00:23:14.940 I don't know if it because people love him.

00:23:16.800 And how do you I mean, I'm just trying to strategize how you run against Donald Trump.

00:23:23.120 Now, if Donald Trump is the president that he was two nights ago, they're going to not I don't think they're going to have a chance in four years.

00:23:35.120 But if you want to run against him.

00:23:39.680 Who is going to do that?

00:23:41.620 Well, it goes to your pendulum theory that you've talked about many times, which is like, you know, we had George W.

00:23:46.420 Bush, who was a go back before that.

00:23:48.420 You built Bill Clinton, who is this sort of smooth talking, but corrupt sort of guy.

00:23:53.540 Then the people rejected that and went the other way to George W.

00:23:57.340 Bush, who could barely get us through a sentence at times, but was everyone thought was a stand up guy and loved the country.

00:24:04.660 And then, you know, then you went to a guy who was really we went from the guy who couldn't get through sentences to a guy who's famous for speeches and, you know, was the opposite.

00:24:15.280 He was, you know, going to stand up against war and won the peace prize in the first two weeks of his presidency.

00:24:19.920 Remember, refused to wear the flag lapel pin.

00:24:22.420 Yeah.

00:24:22.620 Yeah.

00:24:22.740 Yeah.

00:24:23.140 Went the other way.

00:24:24.360 And then but he was so smooth and polished and everything.

00:24:27.440 And then you got to a guy who rejected political correctness and again, went back to the harsher edges.

00:24:33.580 It seems like we just swing back and forth.

00:24:35.720 Whatever problem we think we have, we try to solve with the new guy.

00:24:38.660 However, there's a bigger pendulum happening here, and that is it's getting more and more divisive as it is swinging.

00:24:50.360 You know, Bill Clinton, then George Bush, then Barack Obama, then Donald Trump.

00:24:56.640 It's it's the sides are becoming more divided and divisive, and the rhetoric is getting harder and harder.

00:25:06.260 And that goes to the bigger pendulum from the book pendulum that that doesn't start to swing back the other way until 2024.

00:25:13.980 We don't get out of this authoritarian.

00:25:16.560 And if you look at all the countries around the world, authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere.

00:25:21.640 Everywhere.

00:25:23.020 And we don't get out of that authoritarian swing.

00:25:26.320 It doesn't start swinging back until 2024.

00:25:29.300 So if you really want to take on Donald Trump, you either put somebody up like a Tom Hanks that.

00:25:37.620 How are you going to beat up on Tom Hanks?

00:25:40.420 I mean, it would be interesting to see because people have always said, you know, me, I'm one of them.

00:25:46.840 Trump can't fill in the blank.

00:25:48.980 He won't survive because fill in the blank.

00:25:52.120 OK, I can't imagine beating up on Tom Hanks and winning.

00:25:57.960 But Donald Trump might be the guy that does it.

00:26:01.040 Yeah, maybe, you know, but you think that these guys Joe in the volcano, Joe versus the volcano.

00:26:07.600 He won that battle, though.

00:26:08.760 He won that battle again.

00:26:09.980 But it was terrible.

00:26:10.960 It was a terrible nightmare.

00:26:12.780 I agree on that.

00:26:13.520 He can't he can never live that down.

00:26:15.480 But remember, you have people you have an entire industry, Hollywood, which is filled with people who can do things in a convincing manner that can act as in fact, act as presidents.

00:26:27.660 Right. I mean, these are the people who wind up getting roles in these movies and act convincingly as presidents of the United States.

00:26:33.180 They all you take the best of that bunch.

00:26:35.820 Tom Hanks is an obvious one because he's so big.

00:26:37.800 But you go down through those ranks.

00:26:39.540 There's so many.

00:26:41.560 I mean, you know, you know, Matt Damon is an example right now.

00:26:44.660 Matt Damon doesn't strike me as a president type, but he was talked about several election cycles ago as running as a Green Party member.

00:26:50.520 He's no longer he's no longer he's no longer out of the mainstream of the Democratic Party.

00:26:54.420 I don't think Matt Damon.

00:26:55.580 I don't think Matt Damon and those guys are I don't take them seriously.

00:27:00.680 I take I know.

00:27:03.220 Hang on just a second.

00:27:04.400 I take against Donald Trump.

00:27:07.440 You take someone like Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, Will Smith.

00:27:15.420 Oprah.

00:27:15.600 They oh, maybe Oprah, but you have you have this universal like for them.

00:27:22.660 You know what I mean?

00:27:23.740 Right.

00:27:24.000 They're they're they're Jimmy Stewart.

00:27:26.820 Right.

00:27:27.360 I mean, and the guy, you know, Donald Trump, for all the things that he's good at, like he was most famous for telling people they were fired.

00:27:33.880 Right.

00:27:34.360 Like that is, you know, that is not what Tom Hanks is most famous for.

00:27:38.660 He's most famous for being the hero in every situation you've ever seen him in.

00:27:43.580 Yeah.

00:27:43.800 I mean, it's going it would be it would be very difficult to defeat on its surface.

00:27:48.020 Yeah.

00:27:48.380 I was like a Brian Cranston is a guy like this, too.

00:27:50.760 You've ever watched Brian Cranston in an interview and he's not like a Tom Hanks level guy by any means.

00:27:55.420 But he's so he's so engaging and smart and funny.

00:28:00.160 You take a guy like that and I don't know what his political engagement level is, though.

00:28:04.060 I don't know how important that is policy wise.

00:28:05.560 I don't know that that's important at all at this point, because, again, like you see these these parties flip flopping every few years with principled things you thought were the most important thing in the world to them.

00:28:14.980 Then now they're on the opposite.

00:28:16.260 That goes for Republicans and Democrats.

00:28:17.700 They they're now on all the opposite things that they were 10 years ago.

00:28:20.980 And it's like you look at this.

00:28:23.360 I don't think it matters policy wise.

00:28:24.880 Can you fake it?

00:28:25.980 Can you be convincing?

00:28:26.920 Can you be engaging?

00:28:28.200 I mean, the left has a zillion of those people.

00:28:31.760 We can fake it.

00:28:33.720 We've yeah, we've we've we've right now we have Trump.

00:28:35.800 Yeah.

00:28:35.980 I mean, I don't there's probably one or two others that might pop up.

00:28:39.060 So the question is, do they in four years, do they put up somebody who is a rabid dog?

00:28:47.600 To try to.

00:28:48.900 And that would be a blessing for Trump.

00:28:51.840 Oh, blessing.

00:28:52.620 He wins that battle every time.

00:28:54.220 Cream them.

00:28:54.840 Yep.

00:28:55.440 Cream them.

00:28:55.900 No, they're better off with a with a soft spoken, nice guy, I think, like Tom Hanks.

00:29:00.660 So you have that.

00:29:01.340 Yeah, but it can't just be a nice guy.

00:29:03.240 It couldn't be John Edwards.

00:29:04.420 No, it's got to be somebody super likable.

00:29:06.620 And Hanks is.

00:29:07.560 Yeah.

00:29:07.700 And not political.

00:29:10.520 Politics is politics.

00:29:13.040 We're at a place to where if you're political, if you are a if you're a policy guy, I think

00:29:19.020 it's going to hurt you.

00:29:20.080 If you've been in Congress, I think it's going to really hurt you.

00:29:23.980 How are you going to win against that?

00:29:27.560 You're not.

00:29:28.180 You're not.

00:29:28.700 That's why this Oprah thing is so interesting, because they're all starting to think about

00:29:32.540 it now.

00:29:32.800 Well, if if Donald Trump can be president, so can I.

00:29:37.660 Why can't I?

00:29:38.200 Why wouldn't I be?

00:29:39.160 You're going to get a massive pay cut.

00:29:40.440 So maybe that will deter some of them.

00:29:42.580 No.

00:29:43.120 You don't get a massive pay cut.

00:29:44.400 For not a lot of money.

00:29:45.440 Look, you don't get a massive pay cut.

00:29:47.220 You work for four or eight years at a lower level.

00:29:50.840 But you are guaranteed to be a billionaire afterwards.

00:29:54.680 Yeah.

00:29:55.120 Yeah.

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00:31:31.160 I mean, I have to tell you, I mean, you really look into Tom Hanks' life, you start to see

00:31:38.340 he lived in an airport for a while because he had passport problems.

00:31:42.720 Couldn't leave.

00:31:43.180 He didn't buckle his seatbelt on that plane that went down and wanted everybody to feel

00:31:49.440 bad for him when he was on the island with the volleyball.

00:31:54.160 I mean, he's got some problems.

00:31:55.640 He's got some issues.

00:31:56.040 He actually does have, I mean, remember that he said on MSNBC about the World War II soldiers?

00:32:02.960 What was it?

00:32:03.580 Yes, he said that that was a racist war.

00:32:06.880 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:07.640 That's right.

00:32:07.900 And that's so weird because he had done great documentaries on World War II and the situation.

00:32:13.500 The brothers or whatever.

00:32:13.880 Yeah, a band of brothers.

00:32:15.880 A racist war?

00:32:17.040 Do you know who the Japanese were?

00:32:19.500 Right.

00:32:20.540 I mean, they were the ISIS of our day. 0.89

00:32:24.100 You are kidding.

00:32:24.820 Or of their day.

00:32:25.880 They were racists as well.

00:32:27.520 I mean, you can obviously look at the propaganda from that era and there was a lot of racist

00:32:31.860 propaganda of that era.

00:32:33.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:33.960 However, that's not the way he really framed it.

00:32:35.580 It was more than that.

00:32:37.060 Because everyone knows that the things people said about our enemies at that time.

00:32:41.400 We weren't afraid to insult our enemies.

00:32:43.040 No, we're not.

00:32:43.640 And when asked to say something good about President Obama, too, didn't he say good

00:32:49.960 things about Cuba?

00:32:52.100 Tom Hanks?

00:32:52.680 Hanks?

00:32:53.300 Yeah.

00:32:54.580 Look, he's definitely a crazy liberal, but I don't know that those policy distinctions

00:32:59.500 make any difference.

00:33:00.700 Well, here's what will matter to some people.

00:33:03.780 Tom Hanks goes in and he loses and he's not Tom Hanks anymore.

00:33:08.960 No way.

00:33:09.880 Even if you win, you're not Tom Hanks anymore.

00:33:11.560 Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you're the President of the United States, but you don't

00:33:17.880 survive a loss of that.

00:33:20.960 And that's the thing that I'm not sure guys will...

00:33:24.060 And remember, they're Hollywood.

00:33:26.420 So, like, who is it?

00:33:28.120 Will Smith?

00:33:29.320 Isn't he rumored to be in Scientology?

00:33:31.960 Mm-hmm.

00:33:32.580 So they're going to be...

00:33:33.780 They'll have all these things that, you know, we are not thinking of...

00:33:36.920 And an open marriage.

00:33:37.880 ...that they'll know and go, yeah, I've got an open marriage.

00:33:41.240 It's Scientology.

00:33:42.460 I mean, they'll kill me.

00:33:43.260 Does anybody care about that?

00:33:44.340 Right, but obviously we've seen a lot of those things.

00:33:46.220 I think the Scientology would not help you.

00:33:48.540 It's the one thing.

00:33:49.460 Tom Cruise would be a great...

00:33:51.340 He would run and be President in a heartbeat if he wasn't weird about the Scientology stuff.

00:33:57.540 He hadn't jumped up and down on Oprah's couch and...

00:34:00.020 He's weird about everything.

00:34:00.780 He's weird about that.

00:34:02.200 Yeah, he is.

00:34:03.160 But he's, like, one of the nicest guys around.

00:34:07.620 Yeah, I don't hear him speak politically either.

00:34:09.900 I don't hear him speak politically.

00:34:10.760 I don't think he does that.

00:34:12.100 No.

00:34:12.340 So I don't think he'd do this.

00:34:13.860 Right.

00:34:14.340 Well, he wouldn't do it and he wouldn't win because he's, you know...

00:34:17.520 Too weird.

00:34:17.780 He's on, you know, they have video of him on stage at Scientology and, you know, not good for him.

00:34:25.320 Again, like, it's...

00:34:26.520 You have to pick the right one.

00:34:28.080 But the right one exists for Democrats.

00:34:29.860 I mean, they have literally every celebrity that can convince you...

00:34:34.400 They've got quite a bullpen.

00:34:35.360 I mean, this is a group of people that they have hundreds of people to choose from that can convince you they're in space.

00:34:43.740 Right?

00:34:43.940 Like, this is their job to convince you of crazy things.

00:34:47.880 And it makes them dangerous.

00:34:49.660 Yes, some of them are outlandish.

00:34:51.300 And if you pick the wrong one, you could wind up easily losing.

00:34:54.620 But, you know, this is...

00:34:56.600 If he wasn't dead, you know who would be great to run against Trump in four years?

00:35:01.140 Just for the laughs, Chris Farley.

00:35:04.580 Chris Farley.

00:35:06.460 Chris Farley.

00:35:07.640 Just for the laughs.

00:35:08.160 That would have been great.

00:35:08.980 If only we could bring him back.

00:35:10.560 Oh, my gosh.

00:35:11.300 Can you imagine how funny that would be?

00:35:12.980 That'd be fun.

00:35:13.460 How funny that would be hysterical.

00:35:16.320 Going back to the genesis of this conversation, do you think Oprah would win?

00:35:19.620 I don't know if she would.

00:35:22.520 And I think it's pretty clear she's interested now.

00:35:26.040 I think it's pretty clear that that's in her head.

00:35:27.900 And now she's thinking, yeah, maybe.

00:35:29.560 Maybe that's not so far-fetched.

00:35:30.900 This guy just won.

00:35:31.920 Why not me?

00:35:32.520 In today's world, though?

00:35:33.740 I mean, she's got the whole no marriage thing, living with the guy forever. 0.77

00:35:38.500 Does anybody care about that?

00:35:40.800 That's what people said about Trump.

00:35:42.240 I mean, the guy got divorced multiple times.

00:35:44.100 Nobody cares.

00:35:44.600 The rumor was that he broke up with one of his wives by leaving the story he leaked

00:35:48.540 to the Daily News on the bed and went to breakfast.

00:35:50.940 Conservatives don't care.

00:35:52.020 Liberals won't care about that at all.

00:35:53.480 Uh-uh.

00:35:54.280 I mean, I don't think...

00:35:55.360 Liberals will say they care, but...

00:35:57.300 I mean, the conservatives will say they care, but they'll just be pounded because, really?

00:36:03.220 Donald Trump.

00:36:04.040 I mean, the ads will be, really?

00:36:05.560 Donald Trump.

00:36:07.620 I mean, she...

00:36:08.740 You know, I don't know.

00:36:09.840 I'm not a fan of Oprah Winfrey.

00:36:11.900 I'm not either.

00:36:12.660 At all.

00:36:13.420 But she could make a dent. 1.00

00:36:15.960 Yeah, I feel like...

00:36:17.780 There was a moment where she was completely untouchable.

00:36:20.200 Yes.

00:36:20.380 But that moment doesn't feel like it's still here.

00:36:22.320 That moment...

00:36:23.740 That moment went away the minute she... 0.99

00:36:27.180 Well, first she started talking about religion.

00:36:29.740 And her religion was really, you know...

00:36:32.960 There's millions of different ways to get back to God or whatever it was she said.

00:36:37.260 You know, she was going to Jeremiah Wright's church, so she's kind of screwed up on religion.

00:36:41.920 But I don't know if that matters.

00:36:44.120 Barack Obama went to Jeremiah Wright's church.

00:36:46.340 I know.

00:36:46.800 I know.

00:36:47.180 I said, I don't know if that matters.

00:36:48.780 But that was where she began to have her little downfall from grace. 0.55

00:36:53.520 But then when she started endorsing political candidates and Barack Obama, that's when she

00:36:58.480 blew her career.

00:36:59.420 I'll say one thing about Oprah.

00:37:00.320 She left that church without public pressure.

00:37:02.760 It took public pressure for Barack Obama to leave that church.

00:37:05.660 Yeah.

00:37:06.020 And she actually warned Barack Obama and said, hey, you should distance yourself from this

00:37:11.100 church.

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00:37:37.160 All right.

00:37:37.780 We're going to talk a little bit about the Convention of States.

00:37:40.180 It passed the Senate here in Texas.

00:37:43.580 It has failed in Utah.

00:37:46.420 Also, the large cities in America that are sanctuary cities.

00:37:51.100 And the wall.

00:37:52.460 Is it going to be built?

00:37:53.800 Are there any plans that anyone has heard yet?

00:37:58.400 The guy who would know is our next guest.

00:38:01.800 The governor of Texas, the great Greg Abbott joins us right now.

00:38:06.640 I will make a stand.

00:38:09.740 I will raise my voice.

00:38:12.040 I will hold your hand.

00:38:14.440 Because we are one.

00:38:16.300 I will beat my drum.

00:38:18.500 I have made my choice.

00:38:20.740 We will overcome.

00:38:22.160 Because we are one.

00:38:25.160 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:38:28.920 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:38:34.140 Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

00:38:37.420 The federal government's beginning to accept contract bids for the building of the law along

00:38:42.180 the border with Mexico.

00:38:43.740 Governor Abbott, have you heard anything about that?

00:38:47.160 I have.

00:38:48.060 But before I say that, listen, I know you have listeners across the world.

00:38:52.160 But here in the great state of Texas, we are celebrating Texas Independence Day.

00:38:56.900 I know.

00:38:57.600 This is the day we became an independent nation ourselves many years ago.

00:39:02.340 Yeah.

00:39:02.620 On March the 2nd.

00:39:03.640 We have a last piece in our serial this week.

00:39:06.800 We've been doing Texas history.

00:39:08.080 At the bottom of this hour, the last, I think it's, is it the last one or is tomorrow the last one?

00:39:13.120 Tomorrow's the last one.

00:39:13.720 Tomorrow's the last one.

00:39:14.500 Today we talk about Davy Crockett and Sam Houston, I think, which Sam Houston was an amazing guy.

00:39:23.280 I mean, it has to be a governor that you look back on and say, how could I be half the man that he was?

00:39:31.960 I mean, taking on and standing against slavery in the South.

00:39:38.740 At that time.

00:39:39.200 At that time was a big deal.

00:39:41.380 That guy, that guy was really brave.

00:39:43.860 He's amazing.

00:39:45.320 And as I speak to you this moment, I'm speaking to you from the Sam Houston bedroom in the governor's mansion in the state of Texas.

00:39:53.500 I'm living in a governor's mansion that Sam Houston lived in.

00:39:57.680 Wow.

00:39:57.820 And so the historical connection is profound.

00:40:01.020 Yeah.

00:40:01.780 So, Craig, let's talk a little bit about the border wall.

00:40:07.100 Do you believe it is actually going to be built?

00:40:09.640 Oh, I know it is.

00:40:11.780 And as you were alluding to in your intro, the request for bids has already been issued.

00:40:19.860 And people are making bids right now.

00:40:22.320 The time period for the bids closes here in just a couple of weeks.

00:40:26.720 The bid will be announced in early April, meaning that the work is going to begin in early April.

00:40:33.480 So the administration is moving very quickly on this.

00:40:36.380 This round of bids is what's called the first tranche, and it will involve three sections across the border.

00:40:45.120 One of the sections is in Texas.

00:40:48.040 It's near what we call the Presidio region.

00:40:50.900 It's going to be about 100 to 200 miles southeast of El Paso, Texas.

00:40:56.280 It's a border crossing area that has been penetrated heavily by cartel activity, and it's kind of an urgent need to build the wall in that sector.

00:41:06.780 The other two new sectors will be in other states.

00:41:10.240 I think, if I recall correctly, it is in New Mexico and Arizona.

00:41:14.440 Bottom line, this is the first of what should be three different crunches of adding wall to the border, and this is going to get done.

00:41:22.040 So, Governor, are they keeping you in that loop, or are you being involved in those discussions?

00:41:28.540 Because it would seem pretty logical for you to be a part of that.

00:41:32.980 Yes, I just returned from a five-day trip to Washington, D.C., visiting with administration officials,

00:41:40.320 and this is where it was first announced to us, being the governors.

00:41:44.960 We have an annual governor's conference in Washington, D.C., at the end of February, and one of the topics was the border wall,

00:41:54.200 and it was told to us at that time what was going to be taking place at the border.

00:41:59.580 But, frankly, before that, several weeks before that, I was on a flyover of the border with the new Secretary of Homeland Security, John Kelly,

00:42:08.540 when we were talking about the very issue.

00:42:10.220 So, at multiple levels, in multiple time frames, I've been informed about what's going on, and they are keeping Texas in the loop.

00:42:17.580 So, do you see a time, in a short period, relatively speaking, where the border is actually closed off with a big, beautiful door?

00:42:29.780 Well, remember this, and that is there are large segments of the Texas-Mexico border and U.S.-Mexico border that already have walls along there.

00:42:39.560 Several weeks ago, I had U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, and we flew around, and he got to see for the first time for him the border wall as it currently exists in the Rio Grande Valley.

00:42:52.240 And so, there are large, multi-mile segments of border wall already there that are working very effectively that serve as a funneling device for those who are trying to cross the border,

00:43:05.740 and especially cracking down on the cartels and what they are trying to do along the border.

00:43:11.420 How are you going to get away, how are you going to get around the people who say, you're going to cut my land in half, or, I mean, I know this will be a favorite question of yours, the EPA?

00:43:22.740 The EPA is under a new regime.

00:43:27.540 One of the people I met with in Washington, D.C. was Scott Pruitt, the new EPA administrator, and he is restoring the EPA to its original intent,

00:43:37.060 which is not to be the dictator-in-chief in Washington, D.C., but the EPA is supposed to work in collaboration with the states,

00:43:44.260 and believe me, that's exactly what he's going to do.

00:43:46.660 The EPA challenges will be greatly diminished.

00:43:49.720 That aside, we know that private parties will be filing lawsuits along those lines.

00:43:54.120 But going back to the first part of your question, a lot of the easements, a lot of the rights-aways have already either been purchased or agreements entered into by the United States government.

00:44:07.560 Remembering this, because people forget, it was under the Bush administration that the border wall, or let's say border fence,

00:44:14.500 they call it different names, was initially entered into, if I recall correctly, don't hold me to this, but you'll know this, and you'll be able to bring it up later.

00:44:22.580 I think even people like Nancy Pelosi voted in favor of it at the time.

00:44:27.540 And so there was a border fence in the territory or land needed for that border fence, stretching from Brownsville all the way to San Diego.

00:44:37.820 And many of the segments are already either owned or have building rights by the federal government.

00:44:46.760 That said, there are portions that the federal government does not have.

00:44:51.380 It could be private land.

00:44:52.940 It could be other parts of land they don't have.

00:44:55.400 And they will work around that.

00:44:57.440 But let's go back to your kind of the premise that you're talking about here.

00:45:01.360 And that is, I can't tell you there is going to be a yard-by-yard border wall stretching from Brownsville, Texas, to El Paso, Texas.

00:45:10.700 There could be segments where there is not a border wall.

00:45:14.160 But what I do know is, from talking to the administration, learning about what their game plan is, and that is they are finally going to regain sovereign control over the border through multiple layers of security.

00:45:29.440 One of those layers is a wall.

00:45:31.940 A key factor is even a wall alone is not going to stop cross-border activity.

00:45:36.420 You have to have boots on the ground, so they are dedicating 5,000 more Border Patrol agents, meaning more ICE agents, so that they have the personnel which are needed, but also the detection equipment, the boats, the planes, cameras, etc., so that they are going to regain control of our border.

00:45:56.960 Governor Abbott, how do we make this?

00:45:58.820 I mean, here's the problem that we've had now with the last administration, and quite honestly, I fear with this administration, is we're not changing laws, and we're not strengthening the laws.

00:46:16.580 What we're doing is strengthening the Oval Office and the administration.

00:46:19.960 So, this president can be great on the border, but what do we do, what do we have at the end of this, that in four years or eight years, somebody else doesn't come in and just reverse it all?

00:46:33.800 Well, you raise an important issue from two perspectives.

00:46:37.660 First of all, what the Trump administration really is doing is, as you say, they're not making new laws.

00:46:44.920 They're finally applying and enforcing the laws as they have long existed.

00:46:50.840 The reason why we're in the problem that we are in today is because over a period of decades, there's been a gradual erosion in the enforcement of the laws.

00:47:00.760 And this is what's going to happen when you refuse and fail to enforce the laws, and that people will continue to gradually evade them and not abide by them.

00:47:10.080 And that is what has led us to the position today where a new administration finally says, we have to put up a wall.

00:47:16.840 But after the current administration, listen, life changes, and you can't say for certainty someone may not come back in and tear down the wall.

00:47:30.880 Here's what we need to do to make it more effective.

00:47:33.480 And that is, if you look at some of the concerns raised about the wall, especially concerns raised by Mexico, what really needs to be done is to establish both a better attitude and a better approach about why we're doing it.

00:47:49.920 This is not a signal of hostility towards Mexico.

00:47:53.300 This is a signal of our own concern about protecting our own home.

00:47:57.760 It's the way that you or your listeners act probably every night, and that is many of you lock your doors at night.

00:48:05.400 You don't lock your doors at night because you don't like your neighbor next door.

00:48:09.440 You want to protect your own safety and your own family living in friendship with your neighbors.

00:48:17.260 And that's the attitude that we need to foster with Mexico. 0.72

00:48:19.800 Mexico is our neighbor, and we need to have a good relationship with Mexico, and we need to be respectful of them,

00:48:25.820 and they need to be respectful of us enforcing our rule of law and protecting our own sovereignty.

00:48:30.720 So we can foster that goodwill while building a border.

00:48:33.840 This will be a border wall.

00:48:35.740 This will be – and maintain our positive trade.

00:48:38.640 Listen, Mexico is a huge trade partner with us.

00:48:41.000 If we can do all of that, Glenn, this is going to be something that will have a lasting effect, a positive effect,

00:48:47.160 for both Texas, the United States, and Mexico.

00:48:50.180 How do you feel about a tariff on Mexico?

00:48:52.680 You know, I've heard a lot of analysis about this, and especially when I was in Washington, D.C. this past week

00:49:01.740 and go through the analysis, and here is what I am hearing.

00:49:06.360 This is called the border adjustment tax or the BAT tax.

00:49:10.620 And I'm hearing that the real reason for that is to pay for the other corporate tax reduction.

00:49:18.540 And when people talk about going through the mathematical equation of how the border adjustment tax is supposed to work,

00:49:28.600 it seems like it keeps running into challenges.

00:49:33.280 And I hear that the administration may not be in favor of it.

00:49:37.100 I hear that the U.S. Senate may not be in favor of it.

00:49:39.800 I hear that businesses may not be in favor of it.

00:49:42.500 And so it seems like it keeps running into obstacle after obstacle.

00:49:47.960 And I would say it's tough to predict that the border adjustment tax will actually come into effect.

00:49:55.540 We're just going to run out of time with you, so let me just get to the Convention of States.

00:50:00.140 Passed in the Senate, are we going to see this push through?

00:50:05.540 And do you have any idea what happened to Utah or other states as you're meeting with the border or with the governors?

00:50:11.580 Are other states jumping on board or is this taking a back seat now?

00:50:17.320 On the Texas side, remember that in the last legislative session we had two years ago,

00:50:24.540 the Convention of States plan passed in the Texas House of Representatives.

00:50:29.280 So there's every reason to expect that those same representatives will not change their votes.

00:50:34.140 They will vote the same way they did last time.

00:50:36.620 And it did not pass in the Texas Senate last time.

00:50:39.780 So getting it passed in the Texas Senate was a game changer,

00:50:43.420 and it should lead to the passage in the state of Texas of the Convention of States.

00:50:47.840 Texas will join now a growing number of states that have passed a convention of states.

00:50:52.820 And when we do so, it unleashes me and other leaders in the state of Texas

00:50:57.120 to explain to people across the country why this is needed.

00:51:01.040 Remember this, and I know we're running out of time,

00:51:02.820 but let me make this very important point.

00:51:05.120 And that is, I was not one of the leaders or a promoter of the Convention of States up until recently.

00:51:12.640 What changed me?

00:51:13.820 What brought this out of me?

00:51:14.800 It was very simple.

00:51:16.060 It was more than a philosophical idea.

00:51:18.020 It was a practical idea.

00:51:20.500 My necessity for passing a Convention of States was born out of filing 31 lawsuits against the Obama administration

00:51:26.820 and realizing how not just the federal government,

00:51:30.120 but the federal courts have been broken and had departed from our United States Constitution.

00:51:35.360 And there's only one way that we as a country are going to restore our Constitution the way that it was intended,

00:51:42.120 and that is for the people of the United States of America to take back our country

00:51:46.740 and to restore the Constitution to what it was intended.

00:51:49.780 Not rewrite it, remembering this.

00:51:52.660 You, Glenn, you know, and your listeners know, you can recite what the Tenth Amendment says,

00:51:56.640 and that is all power not delegated to the United States in the Constitution is reserved to the states or to the people, period.

00:52:03.340 And that's the problem.

00:52:04.280 It doesn't contain the additional clause that it needs that says,

00:52:08.300 and the states have the power to enforce the Tenth Amendment.

00:52:12.960 And we need that additional clause in there so that courts will stop denying states the authority to enforce the Tenth Amendment.

00:52:20.640 I think one of the best governors in America, in fact, people in Texas feel as with the last poll came out last week,

00:52:28.160 Texans asked their opinion of all of the statewide office holders,

00:52:31.480 including our U.S. senators who are awful popular here.

00:52:36.500 Ted Cruz, very popular.

00:52:38.320 He, Governor Abbott, was the most popular by a wide margin.

00:52:44.120 Congratulations on that, and thanks for being with us, Governor Abbott.

00:52:47.360 Thank you so much, Glenn.

00:52:48.300 You bet.

00:52:48.640 God bless.

00:52:49.320 Quickly, he brought up Obama, and one of the reasons why a lot of people figured out the Convention of States was a good idea was Obama.

00:52:54.740 Well, now, a lot of people, those same people are looking at what Trump is doing and liking much of it

00:52:59.900 and are no longer passionate about the Convention of States.

00:53:03.180 Listen to this list.

00:53:04.400 These states have voted on this already this year.

00:53:07.400 Kansas, Arkansas, Montana, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming, and Texas.

00:53:13.640 The only place it passed was Texas.

00:53:15.540 All of these other, all of those states, all conservative states, all of those places, except in Washington.

00:53:22.520 Because they bought into the scare tactic.

00:53:25.440 Well, you open it up for everything.

00:53:26.860 We're going to lose the Second Amendment.

00:53:28.120 No, listen, I think it's not that.

00:53:29.900 I think they think the pressure is off.

00:53:31.820 But my question to Governor Abbott is, even if you like everything that Trump is doing,

00:53:36.100 what are you going to do to stop it from all being reversed?

00:53:39.860 Right, next time.

00:53:40.700 The next president comes in and does the reverse.

00:53:42.320 If you can do a Convention of States, you can solve those problems a long time.

00:53:46.240 I mean, a Convention of States has to happen.

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00:54:00.660 SimpliSafe showed off their new security camera.

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00:54:07.660 And if an intruder breaks in, the camera automatically starts recording, and the system calls police.

00:54:15.300 It also sends that video right to your cell phone, so you have it.

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00:54:23.680 This is what it looked like.

00:54:24.840 This was the break-in.

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00:55:31.920 Glenn Beck Program.

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00:55:42.100 You know love shouldn't be so complicated.

00:55:50.840 From Aaron Watson.

00:55:54.140 Aaron is a friend of ours.

00:55:55.520 I just think he is straight up one of the nicest guys ever.

00:55:57.980 He is in the category, to me, of Michael Buble.

00:56:02.040 Just a really nice guy who loves doing what he does and loves his fans.

00:56:08.100 And he is the first independent artist to ever go number one on the Billboard album charts.

00:56:16.680 It would be so great to have that happen a second time with this new CD.

00:56:19.140 Yeah, because they dismissed it last time.

00:56:20.800 They were like, well, he didn't release it with, you know, any competition.

00:56:24.580 He's got a ton of competition now.

00:56:25.940 A ton of competition.

00:56:26.620 And it will be a big victory if he can be number one a second time.

00:56:32.180 Because he doesn't get the support, you know, obviously because there's no record company.

00:56:36.020 So he doesn't get the support of National Airplay.

00:56:39.280 This is all built on a guy going around by himself.

00:56:43.220 His family, his wife is his business partner.

00:56:45.920 And Gino is his friend who's been with him forever.

00:56:48.700 And his band has been with him for 10 years.

00:56:51.160 And they all just live in this little town in Texas.

00:56:53.800 And they all just, you know, travel around, play every place they can.

00:56:59.120 Literally yesterday, I think they were selling CDs out of the trunk of their car.

00:57:03.720 Really?

00:57:04.040 Some of the guys.

00:57:04.600 Yeah, I mean, it's great.

00:57:06.420 He opens the Houston Rodeo next Tuesday night.

00:57:09.460 He's a Garth Brooks.

00:57:11.300 Yeah, I mean, that's usually, that used to be reserved for George Strait.

00:57:15.160 One of the biggest country stars of all time.

00:57:16.840 Okay, we have to talk, Texas Independence is coming up next on the Serial, but we have

00:57:22.220 to talk about Jeff Sessions and what's happening with him.

00:57:27.900 And they're saying, could he go to jail over his testimony?

00:57:35.240 I don't think so, but we'll talk about a top of the hour.

00:57:38.360 We are one.

00:57:45.480 They say everything is bigger in Texas, and that includes the legends responsible for

00:58:04.540 forging its independence.

00:58:06.780 No discussion of Texas history could ever be complete without exploring the lives of Sam

00:58:11.820 Houston, Davy Crockett, and Jim Bowie.

00:58:14.560 One fact that makes us wannabe Texans feel better is that none of these were born in 1.00

00:58:20.560 Texas.

00:58:21.560 But like the 28 million others who live there today, we all got here as soon as we could.

00:58:28.760 While Stephen F. Austin is the man without whom Texas might still be a hot, humid, swampy

00:58:34.480 wasteland, in our first episode, we covered Austin's critical contributions to the founding

00:58:39.720 of the state.

00:58:40.720 He was, as the Spanish called him, an empresario, who was eventually responsible for at least

00:58:46.540 1,200 American families immigrating to Texas.

00:58:50.080 But meanwhile, several other men who, like Austin, were from the East, would also make their

00:58:55.240 way to Texas.

00:58:57.020 This episode, we focus on one of the most complex and fascinating characters in American history.

00:59:01.940 His name is Sam Houston, who was born in Virginia in 1793.

00:59:07.360 He was 14 years old when his family moved to Tennessee.

00:59:11.140 And at the age of 19, Houston joined the U.S. Army and fought under Andrew Jackson in the

00:59:17.600 War of 1812.

00:59:19.420 Andrew Jackson is a guy that I like just about as much as Woodrow Wilson.

00:59:23.740 I contend that the American Republic, as our founders knew it, died under Andrew Jackson.

00:59:30.440 Not a good guy.

00:59:32.300 But Jackson was responsible for the expansion of America in many ways, mainly by killing the

00:59:39.660 Indians.

00:59:40.600 In the Battle of Horseshoe Bend, Houston was wounded multiple times and just kept going.

00:59:46.340 He was shot in the groin area with an arrow, and he bandaged himself up, then led a charge

00:59:52.200 to overtake the enemy fortification and was shot twice more by a rifle.

00:59:57.020 He was hit in the shoulder and the arm.

00:59:59.720 His heroics made quite an impression on the future president, President Jackson.

01:00:04.700 They became friends and close confidants for life.

01:00:09.200 In 1822, Houston ran for and won election to the U.S. Congress, and in 1827, was elected

01:00:15.620 governor of the state of Tennessee.

01:00:17.400 But within weeks, the marriage collapsed.

01:00:19.660 He sent her packing back to her father.

01:00:22.200 And he resigned as governor of Tennessee.

01:00:24.820 This personal tragedy had great political repercussions.

01:00:29.680 It ended his opportunity for a traditional political career and set him on a westward

01:00:34.540 course that took him to Texas and the beginnings of the creation of an empire.

01:00:39.600 During his first term in office, rumors arose that Houston had developed a serious drinking

01:00:46.160 problem and that he was cheating on his new wife. 0.69

01:00:48.940 Because of this, he gave up plans to run for re-election.

01:00:52.080 He quit politics and, for a time, went to live with the Cherokee Indians, where he met and

01:00:57.180 married his second wife, a woman whose heritage was half Cherokee.

01:01:01.500 Houston was an outspoken advocate for the Indians, which was in direct conflict with his good

01:01:08.320 friend, Andrew Jackson.

01:01:10.840 In 1832, he traveled to Washington to expose a government fraud against the Cherokees.

01:01:17.240 While there, Congressman from Ohio, William Stanbury, made accusations against Houston on the floor

01:01:22.480 of Congress, Houston wrote repeatedly to demand satisfaction on the charges from Stanbury,

01:01:28.040 but never heard back.

01:01:29.660 Finally, Houston confronted Stanbury in D.C. on Pennsylvania Avenue and beat him senseless

01:01:35.740 with a hickory cane.

01:01:37.480 Apparently, a lot of beatings with canes happened back then.

01:01:40.620 Stanbury pulled his pistol and fired at Houston, but the gun misfired.

01:01:45.340 Stanbury was seriously injured because of that, and Congress ordered the arrest of Sam Houston.

01:01:50.780 He was represented in court by Francis Scott Key.

01:01:55.140 Yes, that guy.

01:01:56.260 He was a lawyer who authored the National Anthem.

01:01:59.380 But the famous representation didn't help.

01:02:01.740 But if you're the opposite of Garth Brooks, and you have friends in high places, including

01:02:06.300 the President of the United States, President Jackson, and future President James K. Polk,

01:02:11.640 he was only lightly reprimanded.

01:02:14.440 Yes, some things in Washington never change.

01:02:17.040 Unsatisfied with Houston's punishment, Stanbury sued him in civil court, and he won a $500 judgment.

01:02:24.900 But Houston left for Texas without paying a penny of it.

01:02:28.480 He was later pardoned by Andrew Jackson, and the fine was erased.

01:02:32.580 So what happened to his family?

01:02:34.580 Well, Houston's Cherokee wife had absolutely no interest going off to Texas with him, and 0.99

01:02:39.460 she stayed behind in Tennessee.

01:02:41.220 The hour that Sam Houston crossed the Red River into Texas in December of 1832, he became

01:02:47.600 the most famous human being in Texas.

01:02:51.700 He was nationally famous as a war hero in the War of 1812, as a lieutenant of Andrew Jackson's,

01:02:59.600 as congressman and flamboyant governor of Tennessee.

01:03:03.000 And the mere appearance of Sam Houston in Texas guaranteed that Sam Houston would achieve

01:03:11.720 public notice, public notoriety, perhaps.

01:03:15.200 With a war of independence on the horizon for Texas, and Houston's reputation as a war hero

01:03:21.020 after arriving in Texas, he was quickly appointed to commander-in-chief of the Texas Army, even

01:03:27.280 though at the time there wasn't much of an army to speak of.

01:03:30.800 October 1835, the actual fighting in the Texas Revolution began in Gonzales, as a detachment

01:03:38.600 of Mexican soldiers was beaten back and defeated, trying to take back the Gonzales cannon back

01:03:44.580 to Mexico.

01:03:45.540 The battle cry of the residents was defiant.

01:03:48.820 You might have seen it on a flag from Texas recently.

01:03:52.560 It just says, come and take it.

01:03:55.560 The Mexicans couldn't. 1.00

01:03:58.360 Texas won.

01:03:59.140 A small group of 183 men took up the fight at the Alamo in San Antonio, as rumors spread

01:04:05.540 of the approach of the 5,000-strong Mexican army began to reach them.

01:04:10.340 The men in the Alamo were determined to stay and fight, even though Sam Houston told them,

01:04:15.200 it's foolhardy, a hopeless cause, and, quote, a trap for anyone who dared to defend it, end

01:04:20.840 quote.

01:04:21.820 As we all know, he was right.

01:04:24.000 The Mexican army laid siege to the Alamo for nearly two weeks, then attacked and killed

01:04:30.140 everyone inside.

01:04:31.900 The 183 men inside of the Alamo made the Mexicans pay dearly, killing between 600 and 1,300 men 0.79

01:04:39.440 in Santa Ana's army.

01:04:41.920 Angered, Santa Ana began looking for Sam Houston and, along the way, executed the 400 Texans who

01:04:48.120 had defended the garrison at Goliath, Texas, after they surrendered.

01:04:51.700 As the word trickled out about the fate of nearly 600 Texans killed at the Alamo and Goliath,

01:04:58.760 more and more angry Texans joined Houston's army.

01:05:02.740 It's one of the reasons why the Russian plans to invade the United States never included a

01:05:08.100 single plan to enter through the Texas border.

01:05:12.560 You just don't want to make Texans angry.

01:05:15.300 When Houston finally decided that time and circumstances were right to fight Santa Ana,

01:05:21.800 and he had enough angry Texans, he pounced on Santa Ana's forces at 3.30 at the Battle

01:05:28.380 of San Jacinto, winning one of the fastest, most decisive victories in all of history.

01:05:34.280 The battle lasted 18 minutes, and that is when Texas won its independence.

01:05:39.820 Houston was wounded again.

01:05:43.160 His ankle was shattered by a bullet, and when he went to New Orleans for treatment, a huge

01:05:47.840 crowd awaited him on the dock.

01:05:50.000 One of those in the crowd was a 17-year-old girl named Margaret Lee, who was immediately

01:05:55.320 smitten with the 43-year-old war hero, but she didn't get a chance to meet him.

01:06:00.880 Three years later, on a business trip to Mobile, Alabama, Houston and Lee met and were formally

01:06:06.580 introduced. The next year, the two were married, and this time, married for life. For the rest

01:06:13.560 of Houston's life, Lee remained at Houston's side until he died in his home in Huntsville

01:06:19.180 in 1863. Houston became a hero of incredible proportions in Texas. He would be elected president

01:06:27.020 of the new republic twice, and when it became a state within the United States, he was elected

01:06:33.100 one of the two U.S. senators from the state.

01:06:35.920 In 1854, as one of the two U.S. senators from Texas, Houston performed the bravest political

01:06:43.580 act of his career when he voted against the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would have potentially

01:06:51.020 opened up certain western territories to slavery. So he, alone among all U.S. senators from the

01:06:57.600 cotton states, voted against the act. And, of course, he was hung in effigy. He was reviled on

01:07:05.200 street corners and on the political stump. The state legislature called upon him to resign in Texas.

01:07:13.120 Although rejected by the Texas legislature, the people remained loyal to Houston and elected him

01:07:18.860 governor in 1859. Hardly had Texas joined the union when the issue of secession to maintain the right

01:07:26.460 to hold slaves swept the southern states. Houston fought with all of his might against the forces

01:07:33.980 of secession and disunion. But crowds now hooted him down, spat upon him, threatened his life.

01:07:41.980 The man who had given birth to Texas was now hated by the people he had led. He refused to swear

01:07:51.900 allegiance to the confederacy and was ousted from office. He had held on to his principles,

01:07:58.460 even when it cost him his political career and his enormous popularity with the people. However,

01:08:05.020 history would eventually right the wrongs done to his legacy and prove that his judgment was correct.

01:08:11.900 Sam Houston goes down as the only American in history to serve as the governor of two separate states,

01:08:18.220 a U.S. congressman, a U.S. senator, and the president of a sovereign nation. He truly was

01:08:25.180 one of the most unique and fascinating characters in history. Next time, Texas Today.

01:08:34.300 Glenn Beck.

01:08:36.060 I will tell you, I mean, the political courage that Sam Houston had, and he was not popular. Now,

01:08:41.660 you say the name Sam Houston, and you better genuflect. There is like, only China and Russia 0.82

01:08:48.540 has a bigger statue of a political figure. Right? Yeah. The largest statue in the United States

01:08:55.820 is Sam Houston's just outside of Huntsville. Wait, wait, wait. Largest statue of a politician?

01:08:59.660 Of a politician. Yeah, okay. Yeah. It's a gigantic statue.

01:09:03.020 Is there a bigger statue of anybody anywhere? Well, a statue of liberty. Well, I mean, okay,

01:09:07.820 you have a person, not just a politician, but of a person. When you drive by that thing,

01:09:13.500 it stops traffic. Yeah, no. If you haven't seen it before, it's like, what the hell was that?

01:09:18.300 You're in an interstate. Yeah. It's like, it's like a Mao statue. It really is. It's pretty

01:09:23.740 incredible. It is. It is. Except unlike Mao, Sam Houston actually stood for freedom. Right.

01:09:29.100 Right. Uh, and it was, it was, um, reviled for a long time at the end. Yeah. Yeah. Because

01:09:36.860 of his stance and now, first of all, greatly beloved, revered, almost, almost worshiped. Yeah.

01:09:43.660 Almost deified. And then because of his stance on slavery, hated to the point where he had to,

01:09:48.540 which is strange because the people put him in office, they support him. Yeah. Um, and,

01:09:55.260 and, and, and then vote for him after he votes against slavery. Right. They, they elect him for 0.55

01:10:01.460 governor. And then as soon as he says, no, I'm not, I'm not seceding with the rest of the, the,

01:10:07.060 the South, uh, they drive him from office. Got him out of there. Must've broken his heart. Oh yeah.

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01:10:27.960 to be stolen in a fraudulent claims for the United States government to care for the United

01:10:36.040 States government to do something about it. Is that a serious question? Yeah. They are going

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01:11:36.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program. Mercury.

01:11:46.300 888-727-BECK. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:11:51.180 When it's down, radio up, riding shotgun next to you. Yeah.

01:11:55.180 You were smoking camel lights behind the wheel. I can still hear you say 300,000 miles. 0.91

01:12:01.120 You can't beat an old beat-up Chevrolet.

01:12:04.280 Actually, we can.

01:12:05.220 Well, not an old Chevy truck. You can't beat an old Chevy truck.

01:12:11.080 You can't beat an old Chevy car.

01:12:12.880 Well, how old is the Chevy car?

01:12:19.140 You get into that K-Car era of Chrysler and, uh...

01:12:25.320 The K-Car.

01:12:26.380 Remember that?

01:12:27.420 Yeah.

01:12:27.740 That American... 0.61

01:12:29.400 Remember the Granada?

01:12:30.940 Yeah.

01:12:31.560 All those really nasty cars from the 70s.

01:12:35.020 Didn't work out very well.

01:12:35.880 No.

01:12:37.640 On the other hand, they had some good ones, too.

01:12:40.500 Camaro, Corvette, Impala.

01:12:42.920 They brought back the Impala.

01:12:44.280 Again, those were early.

01:12:46.460 Those were early 70s.

01:12:47.960 Once the gas crisis hit, and they started making them cheap steel, remember?

01:12:53.820 Yes.

01:12:55.280 Oh, those were bad cars.

01:12:57.040 Chevettes and all that.

01:12:58.140 And the plastic inside.

01:13:00.620 I mean, I just remember watching the American car industry die was so depressing.

01:13:07.520 They've come a long way since then.

01:13:08.940 They have.

01:13:09.220 They've really come back.

01:13:10.300 I mean, American cars are good now.

01:13:12.220 It's amazing to me that Tesla is the leader in the world of self-driving cars.

01:13:19.700 You know, Mercedes, Audi.

01:13:21.780 Audi, I think, is the leader in trucks now.

01:13:25.220 The self-driving trucks.

01:13:26.320 Did you see...

01:13:26.940 There was an episode of these guys who do car testing, and they talk about cars.

01:13:31.880 I forget which channel it's on, but...

01:13:34.220 They tested driving around the San Francisco area on the same loop.

01:13:38.600 They did a Mercedes self-driving and a Lexus self-driving.

01:13:42.560 I mean, not a Lexus, but a Tesla.

01:13:45.340 Tesla, Mercedes.

01:13:46.420 And the Tesla crushed the Mercedes.

01:13:48.800 Tesla is the best in the world at it.

01:13:50.880 Yeah.

01:13:51.500 I mean, if you want a self-driving car, Tesla is the one that you're going to want.

01:13:55.960 Plus, they look great.

01:13:58.060 I don't think there's a better looking car.

01:14:00.640 And they're fast.

01:14:02.560 I really want one.

01:14:03.540 And they're green.

01:14:04.460 I mean, how long is it going to take before he says they're green?

01:14:07.180 I don't care.

01:14:08.240 And you get the great tax credit from the government of $7,500 every time you purchase one.

01:14:13.260 You always have to bring that to the table.

01:14:15.340 I know.

01:14:15.900 It really bothers me, because other than that, I love those cars.

01:14:18.520 I mean, the government intervention is really annoying.

01:14:20.780 But, I mean, driving them is the most, by far, the most impressive car I've ever driven in my life.

01:14:27.640 I mean, it's like a rocket ship.

01:14:30.200 And that's compared to other really fast cars.

01:14:32.240 I mean, you just, you're, it's a totally different experience.

01:14:34.820 It has no gears.

01:14:35.620 That's the thing that you have to get used to.

01:14:37.460 Yeah.

01:14:37.760 It doesn't shift gears.

01:14:38.780 It just takes off.

01:14:39.680 It's constant acceleration.

01:14:41.820 And it's a market.

01:14:43.400 That's bizarre.

01:14:43.920 Yes.

01:14:46.300 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:14:49.540 Mercury.

01:15:06.300 This is the Blaze Radio On Demand.

01:15:09.320 Lots of things to talk about.

01:15:12.220 Ron Reagan and the freedom from religion.

01:15:14.960 From, from Religion Foundation.

01:15:18.220 Ash Wednesday was yesterday.

01:15:22.220 There, there was a little extra something in the ashes for gays and lesbians. 1.00

01:15:29.300 Some churches were putting sparkles in the ashes to celebrate, you know, gays being able to go to church, I guess, and get ashes on their forehead. 0.99

01:15:46.400 I think they've been able to go to church the whole time.

01:15:48.820 Yeah.

01:15:48.880 No, not, but not to get ashes on their forehead with sparkles.

01:15:52.520 No, definitely not.

01:15:53.520 Yeah.

01:15:53.820 That's a new thing.

01:15:54.340 So, anyway, we've got that coming up.

01:15:57.580 Also, Jeff Sessions.

01:15:59.740 Some people, I don't happen to be one of them, some people say he's going to jail for his testimony in front of the Senate.

01:16:08.000 We'll talk about that and so much more beginning right now.

01:16:10.480 I will make you stand.

01:16:13.860 I will raise my voice.

01:16:16.140 I will hold your hand.

01:16:18.400 Because we are one.

01:16:20.380 I will beat my drum.

01:16:22.640 I have made my choice.

01:16:24.900 We will overcome.

01:16:27.180 Because we are one.

01:16:29.280 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:16:33.080 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:16:36.640 Gentlemen, before we continue this hour, I think I would like to make the case that something is wrong with our friend Pat.

01:16:45.000 First, he likes Riaz Patel, which he likes, loves, like worships, like worships.

01:16:52.420 I believe he said he would marry him.

01:16:54.580 Marry him.

01:16:55.120 Marry him.

01:16:55.820 Well, there's that little issue of both of us being married already.

01:16:59.080 Don't back off what you said.

01:17:00.340 Right.

01:17:01.180 But if it wasn't for the married thing and the icky sex part, you two would be together.

01:17:05.980 All over it, like crazy.

01:17:07.820 And now a country music star.

01:17:10.780 I know.

01:17:11.620 Scary.

01:17:12.100 That is really scary.

01:17:13.480 I don't know who you are anymore.

01:17:16.360 Aaron Watson is on the phone.

01:17:18.620 Are you going to be cutting a song with Pat, Aaron?

01:17:23.720 Absolutely.

01:17:24.840 First of all, good morning, boys.

01:17:26.540 It's good to hear from you.

01:17:27.780 Thank you, sir.

01:17:28.460 And Pat is one of my new best friends.

01:17:31.060 And I know from listening to y'all throughout the past that Pat used to not like country music.

01:17:40.780 But I found a little chink in his armor, a little soft spot in his heart last week. 0.99

01:17:46.440 And I think I made, I think I may have made an impact on Pat.

01:17:51.980 Well, if you definitely did.

01:17:53.940 If you could have a, some sort of a guitar riff like, that sounded like Boston in all of your songs, he would, he'd love it.

01:18:06.160 He'd love it.

01:18:06.660 So are you going to, are you going to be number one this week?

01:18:09.040 Is it going to happen?

01:18:09.980 Well, I don't know.

01:18:11.940 I'm telling you right now, it's the ninth inning.

01:18:14.560 There's two outs.

01:18:16.520 Our album, Vaccaro, just to kind of get y'all up to date.

01:18:19.460 It's currently number two on all genres on iTunes.

01:18:23.420 It's number one on country.

01:18:25.320 You guys have made a huge impact.

01:18:27.500 Here's, we had a big hiccup when it came to our distribution.

01:18:32.100 You know, we're not, we're not a major label.

01:18:34.360 We don't have a major record label, so we don't get the perks of distribution.

01:18:38.300 But you know what?

01:18:39.300 Today's a big day.

01:18:41.640 I mean, everybody knows today is Texas Independence Day.

01:18:44.940 And what we have on our side is, first of all, we don't have a major record label, but we have an awesome God.

01:18:51.300 And all things are possible through God.

01:18:53.560 He's blessed us with the best fans in the world.

01:18:56.520 And what we've got in honor of Texas Independence Day, we have an entire nation that's filled with people that have a Texas-like swagger, spirit, and attitude.

01:19:08.240 And they believe that this country was built on the freedom to dream big dreams.

01:19:13.700 And right now, there are major, there are bigwigs at major labels right now scratching their head, wondering how some small-town businessman that has a band named Aaron Watson is outselling the major label pop acts that they're pumping millions of bucks into.

01:19:33.680 And, man, we give God all the glory.

01:19:36.160 And I wish I was there to hug you guys right now.

01:19:39.100 Well, we could probably live without that.

01:19:43.240 But I tell you, Aaron, when are you performing at the, when is the Houston Rodeo?

01:19:50.020 Is that next week?

01:19:50.620 So, the Houston Rodeo is on Tuesday, March the 7th.

01:19:55.060 We're actually recording a live CD-DVD.

01:19:58.060 There's still some tickets left.

01:19:59.580 You can get them online.

01:20:01.640 But, man, it's just been an incredible week, boys.

01:20:04.900 I'm telling you right now.

01:20:06.040 It's Tuesday. We should go.

01:20:07.880 Yeah, we should.

01:20:08.440 What time is that?

01:20:10.160 We should go.

01:20:11.220 What time is that?

01:20:12.080 I think we kick off around 8-ish.

01:20:14.700 Well, that's way past.

01:20:15.720 That's like four hours past our bedtime.

01:20:17.600 We'd probably have to, we'd have to stay the night and do the show in Houston.

01:20:21.860 I will get y'all, hey, I will have a tour bus take y'all back home.

01:20:28.400 We might take you up on that.

01:20:30.040 We might go.

01:20:31.800 It'll be fun.

01:20:33.020 You know, though, I have to thank y'all.

01:20:35.460 We've been, we have been, we have not had, we've not been doing anything other this week

01:20:43.560 than been pounding the pavement.

01:20:44.980 We've been selling CDs out of the bus.

01:20:47.600 And I've had, the most exciting thing for me is I've had people come up to me who,

01:20:53.520 before you guys started talking about the record this week, they had never heard of me.

01:20:58.380 And now they're downloading my entire back catalog.

01:21:01.580 And they've become overnight fans.

01:21:03.840 And you guys as listeners, my music and your listeners go together like peanut butter and jelly.

01:21:10.660 And I'm telling you right now, this is my, this is my battle cry.

01:21:16.340 I mean, I'm on the war path.

01:21:17.900 I mean, if we, we want to stick it to the man, I want to give independent people around the country.

01:21:25.380 I want that number one record.

01:21:27.460 All right.

01:21:28.680 Let's get it.

01:21:30.140 Aaron, good talking to you, brother.

01:21:32.260 We'll, we'll call you back later today.

01:21:34.360 Maybe we'll, maybe we'll see you down in Houston at the rodeo.

01:21:38.160 Hey, that album that we're going to record is called Divorces and Horses.

01:21:45.920 Nice.

01:21:46.760 I like it.

01:21:47.800 Love it.

01:21:48.580 I like it.

01:21:49.020 All right, brother.

01:21:49.620 Thanks so much.

01:21:50.780 Dude, God bless y'all.

01:21:51.980 God bless you.

01:21:52.680 Aaron Watson.

01:21:54.720 The reason why we are, I mean, he's a really good guy.

01:21:58.240 Yeah.

01:21:58.400 Nobody deserves this more than he does.

01:22:00.120 Yeah.

01:22:00.300 But he is a guy who the record company tried to change.

01:22:04.360 He wouldn't do it.

01:22:05.400 He stays out on his own.

01:22:06.620 He listens to his dad's advice and says, listen, you might be 40 before you, you, you hit it.

01:22:12.520 But if you love it, that's what you'll do.

01:22:14.740 And he spent the last 20 years just working so hard.

01:22:19.680 It is only his fans that have made him this way.

01:22:23.640 Not radio, nothing.

01:22:25.560 Just his fans have given him a number one record.

01:22:28.300 The music industry discredited it last time, said, well, he had no competition and that's not possible.

01:22:35.820 If he's number one again with this record, it will be huge.

01:22:40.740 And today's the last day that it counts for that number one status.

01:22:44.940 And the name of the CD is Vaccaro.

01:22:48.360 Just download it now.

01:22:49.360 You'll love it.

01:22:49.980 It's really good.

01:22:50.680 Just a quick breaking news, a couple of breaking news updates.

01:22:52.860 Yeah.

01:22:53.200 Dr. Ben Carson confirmed for HUD secretary.

01:22:57.920 58.

01:22:58.380 He got a bunch of Democrats.

01:22:59.420 58-41, I believe, was the vote.

01:23:02.040 Also, Rachel Dolezal.

01:23:05.580 Remember her?

01:23:06.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:06.860 She's identified black.

01:23:08.560 Yeah.

01:23:08.720 Yes.

01:23:09.080 She has acknowledged that she's Caucasian biologically, but identifies as black.

01:23:13.680 She has changed her name to Nakechi Amare Diallo.

01:23:20.340 So in case, just in the future, I want to make sure you guys are referring to her accurately.

01:23:23.580 As Nakechi. 0.98

01:23:24.700 Nakechi Amare Diallo.

01:23:26.920 That's great.

01:23:27.960 Formerly Rachel Dolezal.

01:23:30.140 Nice.

01:23:30.520 I'm saying just a little bit.

01:23:32.380 I don't know how much, but just a little bit of lithium goes a long way.

01:23:36.840 That doesn't seem related, but it is.

01:23:39.340 Yeah, it's not related.

01:23:40.660 I just, not related.

01:23:41.860 I just wanted to, you were talking about Naticchi.

01:23:46.060 Nakechi.

01:23:47.840 Tomato.

01:23:48.740 No.

01:23:49.420 No.

01:23:50.060 No.

01:23:51.500 Nakechi Amare Diallo.

01:23:53.520 Okay.

01:23:54.340 And I had a separate thought.

01:23:57.460 Lithium.

01:23:59.400 A little bit goes a long way.

01:24:03.020 Okay.

01:24:03.520 It's interesting you brought it up twice.

01:24:05.540 Thank you for that thought.

01:24:06.260 In an unrelated sense.

01:24:07.840 All right, can we talk a little bit about Jeff Sessions?

01:24:10.540 This Jeff Sessions thing is bothersome to me.

01:24:16.500 And I think Stu and I disagree on this.

01:24:19.140 I'm not sure.

01:24:21.020 I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing as you're testifying.

01:24:26.120 If you're testifying under oath, here's the story.

01:24:30.340 They're saying now that he perjured himself and he might go to jail.

01:24:33.680 You know me, I am, you perjure yourself, you go to jail.

01:24:38.100 I don't care who you are.

01:24:39.500 I mean, I have wanted to send people to jail for perjury for a very long time.

01:24:44.820 We never do it.

01:24:46.260 I am big on perjury.

01:24:49.640 I don't think he's perjured himself.

01:24:51.840 They say that he perjured himself during his Senate testimony when he said he was asked about Russia and Donald Trump.

01:24:58.300 I have the transcript here.

01:24:59.540 You want that?

01:24:59.920 Yeah, go ahead.

01:25:00.500 So Al Franken asks, if there was any evidence of anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign that communicated with the Russian government in the course of the campaign, what would you do?

01:25:10.620 He says, I'm not aware of any of those activities.

01:25:13.060 I've been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I did not have any communications with the Russians.

01:25:18.360 Okay, so he did.

01:25:21.960 He met, part of his Senate duties is to meet with the Russian ambassador, and in that time period, he's met with the Russian ambassador twice.

01:25:33.420 But personally, you're talking to the Senate.

01:25:36.440 They know what you do.

01:25:37.980 They know you're meeting with the ambassadors because of what you do.

01:25:41.980 He's on the intelligence committee.

01:25:43.200 It's your gig.

01:25:43.620 Right, it's your gig.

01:25:44.640 So you are meeting with those people.

01:25:46.200 And so for him to say, no, I didn't meet with the Russians, I'm thinking that he's thinking to himself, well, I mean, besides the ambassador, that's part of my job.

01:25:56.180 But I'm not meeting with the people you're talking about.

01:25:59.640 You know, I'm not meeting with these other Russians who are talking to us about, you know, hey, how can we help get Trump in?

01:26:06.980 Boris and Natasha want to help.

01:26:09.120 I think that's what he meant.

01:26:11.000 And I'm willing, I accept that from him.

01:26:14.180 I think I accept it, too.

01:26:15.680 So I don't think we disagree on this at all.

01:26:17.360 But, I mean, the reason why the Democrats love this so much is the normal person doesn't make that distinction.

01:26:22.960 He said he didn't meet with the Russians, and he did.

01:26:26.180 So it's a nice way to burn him and make the administration look bad.

01:26:30.040 Now, look, obviously the senator asking the question knows that as part of his duties, he's going to be meeting with ambassadors all the time.

01:26:37.200 He's met with dozens of them.

01:26:38.380 And that's part of his pitch.

01:26:41.760 However, they also know that the American people are going to look at that and say, wait a minute.

01:26:45.600 They asked him if anyone from the candidate, anyone from the campaign had met with the Russians.

01:26:52.460 Then Sessions says, I've been part of the campaign, and I haven't done it.

01:26:57.000 So he volunteers and brings himself into it and then says he's never met with them.

01:27:01.300 Let's say that I am sitting around in talk radio circles, and I'm being questioned by talk radio people, okay?

01:27:08.040 Right.

01:27:08.520 And they say, because there's some big cabal with, you know, Rush Limbaugh, and he's, I don't know, you know, suddenly, you know, wanting to thwart all of the talk radio people.

01:27:23.580 I don't know.

01:27:23.920 Okay.

01:27:24.120 So, and I'm asked, Glenn, have you met with the Rush people?

01:27:30.620 No, I haven't met with the Rush people.

01:27:33.680 Well, you just perjured yourself because you meet with the premier radio network all the time.

01:27:39.600 Well, yeah, but yes and yes.

01:27:42.000 Technically, they are the Rush people.

01:27:44.600 They represent Rush as well.

01:27:46.140 But that's not what we were talking about.

01:27:48.060 That had nothing to do.

01:27:48.960 I don't think of the premier radio network as the Rush people.

01:27:52.720 And again, I think this is, the Democrats realize that that perception of you, that looks like you just backed off.

01:27:59.080 Well, yeah, I mean, I guess I met with his people, but those, they work with other things, and they do other things, and we did it in a different capacity.

01:28:04.920 People don't divide themselves like that in real life, in normal life.

01:28:08.260 I think they do.

01:28:09.520 It would be, I wouldn't.

01:28:11.060 Man, you're telling me that if some, if you, if you wanted to, hey, hey, that, you know, have you ever met with, like, if your wife came to you and said.

01:28:19.600 No, no, wait, wait, wait, because this is a real, that's why I tried to come up with a real scenario.

01:28:23.660 If you were saying, if you were talking to your peers, to your peers, and they said, Stu, have you met with the Rush people?

01:28:34.260 If I asked you, have you met with the Rush people?

01:28:35.980 Right.

01:28:36.560 What would you answer?

01:28:37.820 If I was talking to my peers.

01:28:39.520 To your peers, a group of people that know how premier radio works and everything else.

01:28:43.280 If I had a, if I had met with someone from Rush Limbaugh's company who came to be, see there, I would say, I met with them on this, but not on anything else.

01:28:52.940 Right.

01:28:53.140 And that's, I think, where.

01:28:54.040 I'm saying premier.

01:28:56.820 Premier.

01:28:57.220 Right.

01:28:57.700 But, I mean, this is, you're making a distinction there.

01:29:00.480 Premier works with Rush Limbaugh, right?

01:29:02.920 Premier employs.

01:29:04.360 They are the Rush representatives. 0.59

01:29:06.300 Right.

01:29:06.500 But they work with him.

01:29:08.440 Yes.

01:29:08.820 They're not necessarily Rush's inner circle.

01:29:11.760 Right.

01:29:12.200 Okay.

01:29:12.400 But this guy is, this guy is the guy that they would say the problem with, it was the Russian ambassador.

01:29:18.340 I don't think so.

01:29:19.240 No, because it's not the ambassador.

01:29:20.560 That's the person that Flynn got left for talking to.

01:29:23.460 He was talking to the same people.

01:29:24.860 So his answer should have been, yes, I didn't talk to him about that.

01:29:28.520 To, again, you're right.

01:29:30.360 Al Franken knows this when he asks the question.

01:29:32.620 He knows he's met with senators.

01:29:34.000 It's not about Al Franken.

01:29:35.640 And Sessions should know, to avoid controversy, to say, well, obviously, as my role in the Senate, I meet with ambassadors all the time.

01:29:42.120 But I did not talk about the campaign at all.

01:29:44.260 Like, he should know he needs to make that distinction.

01:29:46.380 Not for Franken, who obviously knows it.

01:29:49.180 But we all know these are just show trials.

01:29:51.980 We all know they're looking for things.

01:29:53.580 So he probably should have answered the question better.

01:29:56.620 Though, it's ridiculous.

01:29:58.260 You're right.

01:29:58.860 Everyone on the committee knows Jeff Sessions meets with ambassadors.

01:30:02.600 He's on, what was it, the Foreign Relations Committee.

01:30:05.560 It's part of his job.

01:30:06.580 It's part of his job.

01:30:07.280 Everyone knows it in the Senate.

01:30:09.620 However, you know, some guy who's a voter and wants to, you know, they're trying to turn the voter, the people, against Donald Trump.

01:30:17.120 That is their goal, obviously.

01:30:18.880 So you want to do everything you can to avoid this.

01:30:20.580 They're not only doing that.

01:30:21.380 I mean, Jason Chaffetz has said that he should recuse himself because of this.

01:30:25.280 Yeah, and a couple of Republicans have.

01:30:26.560 And all the Democrats are saying he should step down forever.

01:30:29.440 Again, I don't think his answer was a great answer.

01:30:32.120 That does not mean that he did anything wrong here.

01:30:34.620 Yeah, no, it wasn't a savvy answer by any stretch of the imagination.

01:30:41.240 You know, yes, you should have been very, very careful with every word that you said, knowing that they're going to trap you.

01:30:49.240 But, again, you're talking to your peers, and they know your job.

01:30:53.920 But, again, they didn't even ask about him in this question.

01:30:56.960 They just asked generally as if anyone else in the campaign had done it.

01:31:00.920 And he said, well, let me volunteer myself as an example.

01:31:04.200 No, I never met with him.

01:31:06.400 I mean, he did not do a good job with that answer.

01:31:08.720 He's opened himself up to this criticism.

01:31:11.180 However, obviously, we all should understand and realize that's part of his job.

01:31:16.200 And if we were in a sensible society where everyone covered the news accurately, we would all step back and say, okay, I think I understand what he was meaning.

01:31:25.660 Let me give you an example of this.

01:31:26.920 Claire McCaskill, a Democrat, tweeted this.

01:31:29.320 I've been on the Armed Services Committee for 10 years.

01:31:32.880 No call or meeting with Russian ambassador ever.

01:31:35.940 Ambassadors called member of the Foreign Relations Committee.

01:31:38.900 Okay.

01:31:39.580 Unfortunately for Claire McCaskill, she's had previous tweets such as, off to meeting with Russian ambassador.

01:31:45.840 Upset about the arbitrary cruel decision to end all U.S. adoptions, even in this process.

01:31:50.280 Or, today, calls with British, Russian, and German ambassadors about the Iran deal.

01:31:55.700 So, like, if you want to be charitable to Claire, what you would say is, well, she's talking about, she never had a call.

01:32:05.340 Well, she, the exact same distinction you do make for Sessions, you should make for McCaskill.

01:32:09.180 Yes.

01:32:09.560 You notice that Claire McCaskill isn't giving him that leeway because it's all about politics and all about convincing people who don't understand these committees to win them over against Donald Trump. 0.62

01:32:22.740 And it probably will work for some people.

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01:34:08.780 We're just sitting here talking about Aaron Watson again and the record companies and how these gatekeepers like to keep people down.

01:34:16.640 And now nobody's called him.

01:34:18.480 He had the number one record in the country as an independent artist and nobody called him and said, hey, you know what?

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01:34:28.780 Yeah, I'm not sure he would go.

01:34:30.340 I don't know either.

01:34:31.460 But nobody would do it.

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01:34:50.500 It's great because you've done the same thing.

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01:34:53.340 Yeah.

01:34:53.480 And nobody, you know, no cable company said, oh, look at what Glenn Beck's doing.

01:34:56.740 We should put him on.

01:34:57.500 Yeah.

01:34:57.980 No, they didn't do it.

01:34:58.980 They did it.

01:35:00.200 In fact, you know, some tried not to just out of spite.

01:35:03.120 Yeah, you could make the, make the case.

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01:35:17.940 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:35:22.440 Mercury.

01:35:26.280 Glenn Beck Program.

01:35:31.020 Welcome to the program.

01:35:32.040 Glad you're here.

01:35:33.120 Somewhere on a nowhere road.

01:35:36.420 So glad that you have tuned in today.

01:35:39.500 Pat has been.

01:35:40.700 We got to get to this.

01:35:41.880 All over me.

01:35:43.080 All over me.

01:35:44.020 Got to get to this.

01:35:45.160 Ron Reagan, Jr.

01:35:47.680 I mean, here's the son of one of our greatest presidents ever.

01:35:54.180 And a guy who represented conservatism.

01:35:59.260 He had incredible faith.

01:36:01.600 He had great values.

01:36:02.640 And then it just seems like his son and his daughter, Patty, have tried to spit on that their whole lives.

01:36:08.860 Doesn't it?

01:36:09.320 Doesn't it feel like they've done everything they can?

01:36:11.620 And certainly they have freedom of speech.

01:36:13.100 But the only reason we even know their names is because of their father.

01:36:18.660 And they just, they're the antithesis of him.

01:36:22.200 And they like to get out there and get in people's faces and show it.

01:36:26.500 Like, Ron Reagan just did this ad for the FFRF.

01:36:30.460 The Freedom From Religion Fund.

01:36:32.720 Hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

01:36:34.260 Hi, Ron.

01:36:34.560 I'm an unabashed atheist.

01:36:36.000 And I'm alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government. 0.96

01:36:39.640 He's alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government.

01:36:44.620 Are you aware?

01:36:45.640 What intrusions?

01:36:46.580 I'd like to know that, too.

01:36:47.920 Seriously.

01:36:48.680 Can you think of anything?

01:36:49.240 Can somebody say the word God?

01:36:50.780 Was there a prayer?

01:36:52.400 What do you mean?

01:36:53.320 I mean, you know, I can talk about the secular government going into the churches and saying,

01:36:58.440 we need all of your pastoral messages and your sermons.

01:37:04.780 I mean, I didn't see that.

01:37:06.460 A group like this is going to see everything you can think of from the name printed,

01:37:11.040 In God We Trust printed on money to, you know, Ten Commandments battles to crosses to commemorate veterans who have died.

01:37:20.700 I mean, you're going to see all of that.

01:37:21.680 I'm sure even Hobby Lobby, God forbid, if they would see that as a religious imposition on government to say that religions should have to purchase birth control for people who work at religious hospitals.

01:37:40.480 I'm sure they would see that as somehow an intrusion.

01:37:43.640 And they see everything as an intrusion.

01:37:45.080 This is an advocacy group, which is kind of what you talk about, Pat, because it's one thing to come out with an opinion, to believe something.

01:37:51.060 I mean, there's no requirement to believe the same thing your dad believed.

01:37:54.860 But, I mean, to use your name, again, the only reason the Freedom From Religion Foundation would want Ron Reagan as his spokesperson is because his dad was Ronald Reagan.

01:38:05.200 You are trading on his name.

01:38:07.720 It wasn't because Ron Reagan was such a great ballet star.

01:38:10.640 No.

01:38:10.940 I'll tell you that right now.

01:38:11.960 It's not, hey, let's get that ballet guy from the 80s.

01:38:15.480 Ron Reagan or something?

01:38:17.560 Well, then get him and let's have him on the FFRF.

01:38:20.560 It's despicable.

01:38:22.160 Hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

01:38:23.100 Here it is.

01:38:23.640 An unbashed atheist.

01:38:24.560 And also, why is he a 1960s disc jockey?

01:38:27.280 That's a good question, too.

01:38:28.360 Why does he talk like this?

01:38:30.020 Hi, I'm Ron Reagan and I'm a badge.

01:38:33.200 And I've got a stacks of wax to play for you.

01:38:35.960 Coming up in a few minutes, taking you all up to the big hour of the All Request Noon Hour.

01:38:41.180 All right, all right, all right.

01:38:42.460 We're running late, sounding great, but let's get one of those hot-looking, tight-fitting T-shirts

01:38:51.260 after we finish the Ron Reagan.

01:38:54.060 After we finish with Ron Reagan.

01:38:55.520 Let him get it out.

01:38:56.600 Do you understand, however, that he's an unabashed, unashamed atheist?

01:39:00.820 And my dad was a religious guy, but I'm not.

01:39:04.860 And I just want to make sure you know that I'm trading on his fame and his name and his legacy.

01:39:10.440 But I don't believe what he did, and he was wrong, and I am right.

01:39:15.360 And I just want to make sure you know that.

01:39:17.440 And my sister posted Playboy just to get all that out there.

01:39:21.320 Hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

01:39:22.300 Okay, we got it.

01:39:23.820 And I'm alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government. 0.96

01:39:27.560 But that's why I'm asking you to support the Freedom From Religion Foundation,

01:39:31.940 the nation's largest and most effective association of atheists and agnostics,

01:39:37.240 working to keep state and church separate, just like our founding fathers intended.

01:39:42.340 Just like our founding fathers intended.

01:39:45.120 That's the part I have a problem with.

01:39:49.360 Just like our founding fathers envisioned?

01:39:51.380 No, they didn't.

01:39:52.580 He's got every right to say what he believes.

01:39:53.900 No, they didn't.

01:39:54.560 But he doesn't have the right.

01:39:56.200 To his own facts.

01:39:57.280 To false information.

01:39:58.200 That's not what they were after.

01:40:03.160 They were looking for protection for religion.

01:40:07.820 Not from religion, for religion.

01:40:11.300 That you could have your own religion.

01:40:13.100 And they would have fought for him.

01:40:15.360 For his right to be an atheist.

01:40:18.220 That's his religion.

01:40:19.860 He believes, without being able to prove,

01:40:23.300 he believes in what he believes in.

01:40:27.280 Okay.

01:40:28.200 He makes it sound like there's an army of Presbyterians mounted that's going to march on Washington or something,

01:40:34.460 take over the government.

01:40:35.800 That's not what the founders feared.

01:40:38.140 No.

01:40:38.340 What they feared was the opposite.

01:40:39.880 And by the way.

01:40:40.200 Was Washington imposing their will on religion.

01:40:42.320 Right.

01:40:42.500 And by the way, on his website,

01:40:44.220 they link the separation of church and state right to the letter that Thomas Jefferson mentioned that particular phrase.

01:40:52.540 In which it clearly identifies that your interpretation of that phrase is exactly what he meant.

01:40:59.620 I can't even, it's hard to say anything seriously in that phrase.

01:41:02.540 But I mean,

01:41:03.100 I don't know, we did it for years.

01:41:05.460 Yeah, we sure did.

01:41:06.420 But it's pretty clear what Jefferson was talking about there.

01:41:12.140 The wall between church and state, a wall of separation.

01:41:15.500 And in there, he talks about how he doesn't want the state to interfere with religion.

01:41:21.080 Not the other way around.

01:41:21.980 That's not what he's talking about.

01:41:23.360 They all, of course, know this.

01:41:25.460 And they still do commercials of this voice as our founding fathers intended.

01:41:29.460 We've got to get this last line, though, because it's priceless.

01:41:33.280 Ron Reagan, lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.

01:41:38.180 That's how the ad ends.

01:41:39.760 Not afraid of burning in hell.

01:41:43.180 Well, maybe you should be.

01:41:45.680 Maybe you should be.

01:41:46.420 But, you know, it's just, unless, because, yes, he can say these things.

01:41:51.920 Yes, he's not, he should not be confined by what his father believed.

01:41:55.160 But unless you outwardly despised the man, would you do this?

01:42:01.100 Would you join an advocacy group to fight against everything he believed in?

01:42:04.060 Because he knows his dad would hate this.

01:42:05.920 Of course.

01:42:06.620 His dad would be horrified by this.

01:42:08.220 He'd be embarrassed by it.

01:42:09.300 He'd be shamed by it.

01:42:10.900 And I, I mean.

01:42:12.180 See, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

01:42:13.840 I mean, I'm trying to think of, like, my sons or daughters.

01:42:17.420 If I die and they decided to do something, oh, I will come back and haunt the hell out of them.

01:42:24.240 But if they decided to take and stood for everything I was.

01:42:29.380 Yeah, if Rafi came out after your death and started talking about progressivism and how great it is.

01:42:34.640 Right.

01:42:34.840 That would be quite a slap in the face to you.

01:42:37.440 Correct.

01:42:38.220 And what he should say is, look, I'm not my dad.

01:42:42.360 Yeah.

01:42:42.740 I disagree with my dad.

01:42:43.720 And I disagree with my dad.

01:42:44.700 I respected my dad, but I disagree with him.

01:42:46.820 And then go on with your thing.

01:42:48.020 And that, by just saying, hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

01:42:52.180 And no tip of the hat, all you're doing is really, truly trading on your father's name.

01:42:57.500 Yep.

01:42:57.580 But if he would have said, hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

01:42:59.820 And, you know, my dad and I disagreed on a lot.

01:43:01.920 And religion was one of them. 0.95

01:43:04.960 I have no problem with that ad.

01:43:07.300 I have no problem with that ad other than the falsehood.

01:43:10.980 But it's as a as a dad.

01:43:14.960 And it bothers me what a son can do to a reputation.

01:43:21.980 And as a son, I would hope I wouldn't do that to my dad.

01:43:28.160 And it does very little to his reputation.

01:43:30.680 Right.

01:43:30.740 He doesn't it's not going to derail any movement.

01:43:32.700 This is like his he's he's just making money on his dad's.

01:43:37.700 Exactly.

01:43:38.260 It's one thing to disagree with your dad.

01:43:39.900 Absolutely fine.

01:43:40.760 It's one thing to even be believe strongly enough to join an activist organization against something that your dad believes.

01:43:46.460 I think that's totally fine.

01:43:47.360 Totally.

01:43:47.840 To be the national spokesperson for that organization is really pushing it.

01:43:53.440 But then when you realize like it would be one thing if Ron Reagan was a well-established expert in this area for 100 million years and was a guy who, you know, I don't know, a professor of studies.

01:44:07.800 I don't know.

01:44:08.040 Maybe he is.

01:44:08.640 I don't know.

01:44:09.320 But I know him as a guy who's a it was like on MSNBC.

01:44:12.660 And the only reason MSNBC would even in theory put this guy on is because here's a guy with the last name Reagan saying liberal things and the same thing here.

01:44:22.040 Hmm.

01:44:22.460 No, have you seen who they'll put on TV?

01:44:24.240 They will put on any.

01:44:25.380 I'm saying him.

01:44:26.020 They didn't need that.

01:44:26.820 They wouldn't put him on.

01:44:27.940 They'd put on some other weirdo.

01:44:29.440 But they wouldn't put him on him.

01:44:30.560 And they said his name is Reagan.

01:44:31.920 And the same thing happens here in which you're using the only reason the Freedom From Religion Foundation would be interested in him as a spokesperson.

01:44:41.020 You hear how he speaks.

01:44:42.560 He's not exactly the greatest communicator of all time.

01:44:46.040 The only reason they put him in this role is because his name is Ronald Reagan.

01:44:49.860 It's the only reason and he has to know that and to use that power that only he has to work against everything your father stood for only seems to be sane if you hated the man.

01:45:04.140 All right.

01:45:04.580 Thank you very much.

01:45:05.440 All right.

01:45:05.840 We're going to take a look at traffic and weather on the 8th at 4 after.

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01:47:04.860 I have something for the Pat and Stu show.

01:47:07.240 My wife just broke some news to me.

01:47:11.120 She said there is new Blue Bell ice cream flavors out.

01:47:17.180 Oh, wow.

01:47:17.860 Coconut cream ice cream with coconut plates and fudge swirl.

01:47:21.740 I mean, I think there's an ice cream cone.

01:47:23.860 Vanilla with chocolate-covered cone pieces.

01:47:27.140 Yes.

01:47:27.680 Peanuts and chocolate sundae sauce.

01:47:29.740 I saw that in the store the other day.

01:47:30.860 That looks pretty good.

01:47:32.040 Isn't it time for spoons?

01:47:34.140 Pat and Stu every day.

01:47:35.260 We try a new junk food product.

01:47:37.440 Have you tried those?

01:47:38.820 Not yet.

01:47:39.140 No, but we need to.

01:47:40.020 I think that should graduate to the big show.

01:47:44.300 Oh, really?

01:47:44.840 Are you calling ours a small one?

01:47:46.440 Well, it's a little bit.

01:47:48.600 I mean, you know, it's been an off-off-off Broadway for a while.

01:47:52.660 I want to graduate that to the big show.

01:47:54.780 Only in so much as it's not even in New York.

01:47:57.500 It's in Des Moines, Iowa.

01:47:59.040 You're right.

01:47:59.780 That's why I said it's off-off-off-off-off Broadway.

01:48:01.920 Yeah, we know we've heard of Broadway.

01:48:03.800 It's way off, yeah.

01:48:04.760 Yeah, I would love that.

01:48:05.720 You want to do that on the show?

01:48:06.760 Maybe we can do it tomorrow.

01:48:07.420 No, I think it's an important public service.

01:48:11.440 Right, for those listeners who happen to have this particular ice cream in their area.

01:48:15.480 I'll give you another public service we can do right now.

01:48:17.480 Yes.

01:48:17.780 And that's to share the information that's spilled out of Alex Jones.

01:48:22.680 Because it's important.

01:48:23.820 Oh, good.

01:48:24.440 I mean, a lot of people don't understand what's going on in the world.

01:48:27.880 No kidding.

01:48:28.240 He does.

01:48:29.400 Why do you pay attention to him?

01:48:31.900 Oh, these clips are so funny.

01:48:33.420 I don't.

01:48:33.700 But somebody's always sending me clips.

01:48:35.340 And this one is so incredibly deep and profound.

01:48:40.860 All right.

01:48:41.400 We had to share.

01:48:42.300 The elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe.

01:48:46.480 And they want to know all this.

01:48:47.660 Some are good.

01:48:48.100 Some are bad.

01:48:48.660 Some are a mix.

01:48:49.560 Right.

01:48:50.060 But the good ones don't ever want to organize.

01:48:52.440 The bad ones don't want to organize because they lust after power.

01:48:55.400 Powerful consciousnesses don't want to dominate other people. 0.90

01:48:58.660 They want to empower them.

01:48:59.500 So they don't tend to get together until things are really late in the game.

01:49:02.680 Then they come together.

01:49:03.360 Their evil is always defeated because good is so much stronger.

01:49:06.720 And we're on this planet.

01:49:08.180 And Einstein's physics showed it.

01:49:09.580 Max Planck's physics showed it.

01:49:10.760 Oh, there's at least 12 dimensions.

01:49:12.560 And now that's why all the top scientists and billionaires are coming out saying it's a false hologram.

01:49:16.740 It is artificial.

01:49:18.140 It's a false hologram.

01:49:18.740 All these guys are coming out and saying it's a false hologram.

01:49:21.100 Remember how many times have you seen that?

01:49:22.840 Somebody said it's a false hologram.

01:49:24.120 I can't count all the times I've seen that laser.

01:49:26.140 They're scanning it and finding position points where it's artificially projected and gravity's bleeding in to this universe.

01:49:34.100 How many times have we been talking about the gravity bleeding into our universe?

01:49:37.240 Can I just say, look at the picture that is on the screen behind you.

01:49:43.200 That's our boy.

01:49:44.060 Have you seen that before?

01:49:45.320 That's our boy, yeah.

01:49:46.180 Yeah, he's going shirtless a lot.

01:49:47.480 A lot of topless action from Alex Jones.

01:49:48.900 Can I tell you something?

01:49:49.740 It would be like me going shirtless.

01:49:51.780 It's not a good look.

01:49:52.860 No.

01:49:53.160 It's not, but he somehow believes it is.

01:49:55.940 Yeah.

01:49:56.280 He believes it is.

01:49:57.280 What was the story you were telling me the other day?

01:49:59.500 That he is, like he was in a conference room?

01:50:04.260 Yes.

01:50:04.460 Some reporter?

01:50:05.380 That was a pretty interesting story, I thought.

01:50:08.440 Somebody was in, oh, it was Der Spiegel.

01:50:11.000 Der Spiegel.

01:50:12.640 Was at his place to interview him, I guess, in Austin, right?

01:50:16.220 And so they're doing a story on him.

01:50:18.400 And he goes over to a big, they're having, I don't know if they do this every day, if

01:50:21.940 it was just for the interview, but they had.

01:50:23.300 Yeah, here it is.

01:50:24.000 Yeah, he was.

01:50:25.120 A mound of barbecue.

01:50:26.260 Right.

01:50:26.500 Platters of barbecue, chicken, beef, and sausages are set out on the table for the conference

01:50:30.100 room.

01:50:30.900 Alex Jones piles it up, piles food onto a plastic plate, and then suddenly takes off his shirt

01:50:37.540 without explanation.

01:50:38.400 You don't want barbecue sauce to get all over your shirt.

01:50:41.300 Like, you don't do that every day at work.

01:50:43.720 Right.

01:50:44.180 Everybody does.

01:50:45.060 There's barbecue.

01:50:46.080 With his bare torso, he sits there and shovels meat into his mouth.

01:50:51.940 A caricature of manliness, but also a show of power to the reporters sitting in front

01:50:57.480 of him.

01:50:57.860 Oh, man.

01:50:58.200 He can do as he pleases.

01:50:59.880 Then Jones gets up and holds out a sausage.

01:51:03.140 Wanna suck? 1.00

01:51:04.380 He asks.

01:51:05.840 Wow, is that weird?

01:51:06.720 Is that weird?

01:51:08.040 I mean, just a bizarre dude.

01:51:10.080 I've seen your hernia.

01:51:11.480 But there's more here.

01:51:12.580 Oh, Lord.

01:51:12.840 That's what they call dark matter.

01:51:14.240 Dark matter.

01:51:14.680 So we're like a thought or a dream that's a wisp in some computer program, some god's

01:51:19.940 mind, whatever.

01:51:20.900 They're proving it all.

01:51:21.700 It's all coming out.

01:51:22.300 They're proving it now.

01:51:24.380 They're proving it.

01:51:25.280 It's all coming out.

01:51:25.720 They're proving it.

01:51:26.320 It's all coming out.

01:51:27.120 Like, everybody knows this.

01:51:28.260 It's just a known fact.

01:51:29.740 They're proving this.

01:51:30.440 It's all coming out.

01:51:31.360 Or just a wisp in a computer or some god's mind.

01:51:34.340 There's like this sub-transmission zone below the third dimension.

01:51:38.160 It's just turned over to the most horrible things is what it resonates to.

01:51:41.100 What?

01:51:41.320 And it's trying to get up into the third dimension that's just a basic level consciousness to

01:51:46.180 launch into the next level.

01:51:47.840 Obviously.

01:51:48.500 I mean, obviously.

01:51:49.840 He didn't have me until the end there.

01:51:51.200 Did you ever take any mind-altering drugs at all in the past?

01:51:53.920 Because which drug would you say if you had to predict, Jeffy?

01:51:56.020 LSD.

01:51:56.620 LSD.

01:51:57.240 I mean, sensations and images that seem real, though they are not?

01:52:00.880 That's LSD.

01:52:03.000 It does seem.

01:52:04.100 I mean, that's one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard.

01:52:06.540 He is a bizarre individual.

01:52:08.120 It's as if we just took a bunch of words separately and piled them all into a blender.

01:52:13.360 It makes no sense.

01:52:15.540 We should try that tomorrow.

01:52:18.380 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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The Glenn Beck Program - March 02, 2017

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