A 15-year-old diabetic boy who was so emaciated, he appeared mummified, could have been avoided if his parents had not isolated and neglected him for years. This is according to a judge who found the couple guilty of first degree murder.
00:02:10.980Last Friday, he found the couple guilty of first-degree murder.
00:02:17.100Justice Karen Horner said Emil and Rhodicia Radita, 54, were equally guilty of murdering their 15-year-old son.
00:02:28.280The boy, one of eight children, weighed less than 37 pounds when he died of complications due to untreated diabetes and starvation.
00:02:39.400They intended to and did isolate Alex from anyone who could intervene or monitor his insulin treatment aside from themselves, said the judge.
00:02:48.540Alex died as a result of bacterial septus brought on by extreme starvation.
00:02:56.040His physical condition at death was not sudden or a quick occurrence.
00:03:01.180It rather took place over months and possibly years.
00:03:06.000He was unlawfully confined and totally reliant on his parents.
00:03:11.120The parents knew what they were doing when they denied him insulin.
00:03:14.680Apparently, the family tried to make the case that it was a religious thing that kept him from being treated.
00:03:26.300They refused to accept that their son had diabetes and failed to treat the disease.
00:03:33.900He was hospitalized near death in 2003.
00:03:38.560Social workers took him out of the hospital, put him in foster care.
00:03:42.600He thrived, he got better, and then a judge put him back into the hands of his parents.
00:03:52.160And his parents isolated him, kept him away from everyone, and they moved to Alberta and he died.
00:04:03.480It's interesting because it's 2013, 10 years later.
00:04:06.220They said their religious beliefs included not going to doctors.
00:04:21.120I think they had eight kids, so it was okay for the other seven kids.
00:04:24.500My understanding, I think I read in one of the articles about it, was that something with his condition made it difficult for him to eat if he didn't cure his condition.
00:06:00.480And this is where, because I think a lot of times we talk about conservatism as like, you know, you make black and white decisions.
00:06:07.500And, you know, there's right and there's wrong.
00:06:09.660And you follow the thing that's right and wrong.
00:06:12.380This is one where progressivism is easier because progressivism just says, if we think there's anything mildly out of step of what we think, we come in and take the kid.
00:06:20.460Like, as a progressive, this is an easy decision.
00:07:34.880And, you know, before a kid gets to 37 pounds, there certainly is some place where you say, okay, we need to step in here and take him out of it.
00:09:17.640Remember, we wouldn't be having this conversation if it were, for instance, we're not having the conversation in America that honor killing is wrong.
00:10:10.960Well, honor killing is a, you know, that's a murderous act.
00:10:15.660Wait, wait, wait, wait, it doesn't have to go to honor killing.
00:10:17.820There's a lot of people who are taught you dishonor the family and we will kill you.
00:10:24.680It's because of the honor because of Allah tells us to and they don't necessarily get to honor killing.
00:10:33.100Well, isn't that abusive to teach them that it winds up being look, you know, the free market works well in almost all circumstances here.
00:10:43.220Most parents want the best for their kids.
00:10:44.960They will do what they believe is right.
00:10:47.120And what they believe is right is typically right.
00:10:50.240You know, I mean, they might have wrong beliefs or they might have things that are crazy or you might think are kooky.
00:10:56.020But the bottom line is when it comes to your kids health, we've seen this with a lot of people go in there and they say, well, I don't believe in X, Y and Z.
00:11:02.800And there's herbal cures and blah, blah, blah.
00:11:04.320And then when it comes down to they have the disease and it's getting close.
00:11:22.360I mean, so that is the way that typically plays out.
00:11:25.320But sometimes these cases do exist and the line is almost impossible to find if you care about parental rights and and and freedom of religion.
00:11:34.860Look, everybody says everybody always says special warriors.
00:11:41.080Everybody's an atheist until they're in the foxhole.
00:11:51.100He knows and believes what he believes.
00:11:53.580He's a guy that will, you know, would die with his belief, no matter how extreme it got.
00:12:00.340But there are people, I think the vast majority, you're right, when your life or your kid's life is at stake, all of a sudden you abandon all those principles.
00:15:02.820Well, first, I think Christian scientists, aren't they the ones that don't believe in modern medicine?
00:15:09.780So, I mean, I would say that you would have to have a long history of being a member of a church that actually believed that.
00:15:17.980You couldn't just say, well, that's my religious belief.
00:15:20.440But, I mean, first of all, you don't get to, you know, there have been new religions created over time where people were the first ones in, you know, that are members, right?
00:15:29.900I mean, like, these are legitimate things that people have become traditional.
00:15:33.120If you want to go ahead and start your religion, you know, and you're practicing your religion, but again, you couldn't just say, but if you were, you started a religion, you were practicing your religion, then, yeah, okay, I guess.
00:15:49.980I mean, if you, you know, look, that is another line that's impossible to draw because people all the time can convert to something and change their beliefs.
00:15:59.060And if they say, well, how are you going to, oh, you know what?
00:16:01.560I think your religion is not legitimate.
00:16:24.440So, which makes this case even more difficult.
00:16:27.600But again, I think for every progressive, it's easy.
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00:19:36.100It's very reminiscent of a president who loved his country so greatly, loved it, loved, absolutely loved and cherished the nation, but wanted to fundamentally transform it.
00:20:28.020I want to play something from a celebrity.
00:20:32.060You know, we were just saying yesterday with the former governor of Kentucky, this, you know, 70-year-old guy who looked like he was in a VW hall, a VFW hall, giving the response to Donald Trump's State of the Union.
00:20:55.820So, have you ever thought that, given the popularity you have, we haven't broken the glass ceiling yet for women, that you could actually run for president and actually be elected?
00:23:10.840And I don't know that his politics would matter as liberal as they are.
00:23:14.940I don't know if it because people love him.
00:23:16.800And how do you I mean, I'm just trying to strategize how you run against Donald Trump.
00:23:23.120Now, if Donald Trump is the president that he was two nights ago, they're going to not I don't think they're going to have a chance in four years.
00:23:48.420You built Bill Clinton, who is this sort of smooth talking, but corrupt sort of guy.
00:23:53.540Then the people rejected that and went the other way to George W.
00:23:57.340Bush, who could barely get us through a sentence at times, but was everyone thought was a stand up guy and loved the country.
00:24:04.660And then, you know, then you went to a guy who was really we went from the guy who couldn't get through sentences to a guy who's famous for speeches and, you know, was the opposite.
00:24:15.280He was, you know, going to stand up against war and won the peace prize in the first two weeks of his presidency.
00:24:19.920Remember, refused to wear the flag lapel pin.
00:26:15.480But remember, you have people you have an entire industry, Hollywood, which is filled with people who can do things in a convincing manner that can act as in fact, act as presidents.
00:26:27.660Right. I mean, these are the people who wind up getting roles in these movies and act convincingly as presidents of the United States.
00:26:33.180They all you take the best of that bunch.
00:26:35.820Tom Hanks is an obvious one because he's so big.
00:27:27.360I mean, and the guy, you know, Donald Trump, for all the things that he's good at, like he was most famous for telling people they were fired.
00:27:48.380I was like a Brian Cranston is a guy like this, too.
00:27:50.760You've ever watched Brian Cranston in an interview and he's not like a Tom Hanks level guy by any means.
00:27:55.420But he's so he's so engaging and smart and funny.
00:28:00.160You take a guy like that and I don't know what his political engagement level is, though.
00:28:04.060I don't know how important that is policy wise.
00:28:05.560I don't know that that's important at all at this point, because, again, like you see these these parties flip flopping every few years with principled things you thought were the most important thing in the world to them.
00:40:48.040It's near what we call the Presidio region.
00:40:50.900It's going to be about 100 to 200 miles southeast of El Paso, Texas.
00:40:56.280It's a border crossing area that has been penetrated heavily by cartel activity, and it's kind of an urgent need to build the wall in that sector.
00:41:06.780The other two new sectors will be in other states.
00:41:10.240I think, if I recall correctly, it is in New Mexico and Arizona.
00:41:14.440Bottom line, this is the first of what should be three different crunches of adding wall to the border, and this is going to get done.
00:41:22.040So, Governor, are they keeping you in that loop, or are you being involved in those discussions?
00:41:28.540Because it would seem pretty logical for you to be a part of that.
00:41:32.980Yes, I just returned from a five-day trip to Washington, D.C., visiting with administration officials,
00:41:40.320and this is where it was first announced to us, being the governors.
00:41:44.960We have an annual governor's conference in Washington, D.C., at the end of February, and one of the topics was the border wall,
00:41:54.200and it was told to us at that time what was going to be taking place at the border.
00:41:59.580But, frankly, before that, several weeks before that, I was on a flyover of the border with the new Secretary of Homeland Security, John Kelly,
00:42:08.540when we were talking about the very issue.
00:42:10.220So, at multiple levels, in multiple time frames, I've been informed about what's going on, and they are keeping Texas in the loop.
00:42:17.580So, do you see a time, in a short period, relatively speaking, where the border is actually closed off with a big, beautiful door?
00:42:29.780Well, remember this, and that is there are large segments of the Texas-Mexico border and U.S.-Mexico border that already have walls along there.
00:42:39.560Several weeks ago, I had U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, and we flew around, and he got to see for the first time for him the border wall as it currently exists in the Rio Grande Valley.
00:42:52.240And so, there are large, multi-mile segments of border wall already there that are working very effectively that serve as a funneling device for those who are trying to cross the border,
00:43:05.740and especially cracking down on the cartels and what they are trying to do along the border.
00:43:11.420How are you going to get away, how are you going to get around the people who say, you're going to cut my land in half, or, I mean, I know this will be a favorite question of yours, the EPA?
00:43:27.540One of the people I met with in Washington, D.C. was Scott Pruitt, the new EPA administrator, and he is restoring the EPA to its original intent,
00:43:37.060which is not to be the dictator-in-chief in Washington, D.C., but the EPA is supposed to work in collaboration with the states,
00:43:44.260and believe me, that's exactly what he's going to do.
00:43:46.660The EPA challenges will be greatly diminished.
00:43:49.720That aside, we know that private parties will be filing lawsuits along those lines.
00:43:54.120But going back to the first part of your question, a lot of the easements, a lot of the rights-aways have already either been purchased or agreements entered into by the United States government.
00:44:07.560Remembering this, because people forget, it was under the Bush administration that the border wall, or let's say border fence,
00:44:14.500they call it different names, was initially entered into, if I recall correctly, don't hold me to this, but you'll know this, and you'll be able to bring it up later.
00:44:22.580I think even people like Nancy Pelosi voted in favor of it at the time.
00:44:27.540And so there was a border fence in the territory or land needed for that border fence, stretching from Brownsville all the way to San Diego.
00:44:37.820And many of the segments are already either owned or have building rights by the federal government.
00:44:46.760That said, there are portions that the federal government does not have.
00:44:57.440But let's go back to your kind of the premise that you're talking about here.
00:45:01.360And that is, I can't tell you there is going to be a yard-by-yard border wall stretching from Brownsville, Texas, to El Paso, Texas.
00:45:10.700There could be segments where there is not a border wall.
00:45:14.160But what I do know is, from talking to the administration, learning about what their game plan is, and that is they are finally going to regain sovereign control over the border through multiple layers of security.
00:45:31.940A key factor is even a wall alone is not going to stop cross-border activity.
00:45:36.420You have to have boots on the ground, so they are dedicating 5,000 more Border Patrol agents, meaning more ICE agents, so that they have the personnel which are needed, but also the detection equipment, the boats, the planes, cameras, etc., so that they are going to regain control of our border.
00:45:58.820I mean, here's the problem that we've had now with the last administration, and quite honestly, I fear with this administration, is we're not changing laws, and we're not strengthening the laws.
00:46:16.580What we're doing is strengthening the Oval Office and the administration.
00:46:19.960So, this president can be great on the border, but what do we do, what do we have at the end of this, that in four years or eight years, somebody else doesn't come in and just reverse it all?
00:46:33.800Well, you raise an important issue from two perspectives.
00:46:37.660First of all, what the Trump administration really is doing is, as you say, they're not making new laws.
00:46:44.920They're finally applying and enforcing the laws as they have long existed.
00:46:50.840The reason why we're in the problem that we are in today is because over a period of decades, there's been a gradual erosion in the enforcement of the laws.
00:47:00.760And this is what's going to happen when you refuse and fail to enforce the laws, and that people will continue to gradually evade them and not abide by them.
00:47:10.080And that is what has led us to the position today where a new administration finally says, we have to put up a wall.
00:47:16.840But after the current administration, listen, life changes, and you can't say for certainty someone may not come back in and tear down the wall.
00:47:30.880Here's what we need to do to make it more effective.
00:47:33.480And that is, if you look at some of the concerns raised about the wall, especially concerns raised by Mexico, what really needs to be done is to establish both a better attitude and a better approach about why we're doing it.
00:47:49.920This is not a signal of hostility towards Mexico.
00:47:53.300This is a signal of our own concern about protecting our own home.
00:47:57.760It's the way that you or your listeners act probably every night, and that is many of you lock your doors at night.
00:48:05.400You don't lock your doors at night because you don't like your neighbor next door.
00:48:09.440You want to protect your own safety and your own family living in friendship with your neighbors.
00:48:17.260And that's the attitude that we need to foster with Mexico.
00:48:19.800Mexico is our neighbor, and we need to have a good relationship with Mexico, and we need to be respectful of them,
00:48:25.820and they need to be respectful of us enforcing our rule of law and protecting our own sovereignty.
00:48:30.720So we can foster that goodwill while building a border.
01:15:22.220There, there was a little extra something in the ashes for gays and lesbians.
01:15:29.300Some churches were putting sparkles in the ashes to celebrate, you know, gays being able to go to church, I guess, and get ashes on their forehead.
01:15:46.400I think they've been able to go to church the whole time.
01:18:41.640I mean, everybody knows today is Texas Independence Day.
01:18:44.940And what we have on our side is, first of all, we don't have a major record label, but we have an awesome God.
01:18:51.300And all things are possible through God.
01:18:53.560He's blessed us with the best fans in the world.
01:18:56.520And what we've got in honor of Texas Independence Day, we have an entire nation that's filled with people that have a Texas-like swagger, spirit, and attitude.
01:19:08.240And they believe that this country was built on the freedom to dream big dreams.
01:19:13.700And right now, there are major, there are bigwigs at major labels right now scratching their head, wondering how some small-town businessman that has a band named Aaron Watson is outselling the major label pop acts that they're pumping millions of bucks into.
01:25:00.500So Al Franken asks, if there was any evidence of anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign that communicated with the Russian government in the course of the campaign, what would you do?
01:25:10.620He says, I'm not aware of any of those activities.
01:25:13.060I've been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I did not have any communications with the Russians.
01:25:21.960He met, part of his Senate duties is to meet with the Russian ambassador, and in that time period, he's met with the Russian ambassador twice.
01:25:33.420But personally, you're talking to the Senate.
01:25:46.200And so for him to say, no, I didn't meet with the Russians, I'm thinking that he's thinking to himself, well, I mean, besides the ambassador, that's part of my job.
01:25:56.180But I'm not meeting with the people you're talking about.
01:25:59.640You know, I'm not meeting with these other Russians who are talking to us about, you know, hey, how can we help get Trump in?
01:26:15.680So I don't think we disagree on this at all.
01:26:17.360But, I mean, the reason why the Democrats love this so much is the normal person doesn't make that distinction.
01:26:22.960He said he didn't meet with the Russians, and he did.
01:26:26.180So it's a nice way to burn him and make the administration look bad.
01:26:30.040Now, look, obviously the senator asking the question knows that as part of his duties, he's going to be meeting with ambassadors all the time.
01:27:08.520And they say, because there's some big cabal with, you know, Rush Limbaugh, and he's, I don't know, you know, suddenly, you know, wanting to thwart all of the talk radio people.
01:27:48.960I don't think of the premier radio network as the Rush people.
01:27:52.720And again, I think this is, the Democrats realize that that perception of you, that looks like you just backed off.
01:27:59.080Well, yeah, I mean, I guess I met with his people, but those, they work with other things, and they do other things, and we did it in a different capacity.
01:28:04.920People don't divide themselves like that in real life, in normal life.
01:28:11.060Man, you're telling me that if some, if you, if you wanted to, hey, hey, that, you know, have you ever met with, like, if your wife came to you and said.
01:28:19.600No, no, wait, wait, wait, because this is a real, that's why I tried to come up with a real scenario.
01:28:23.660If you were saying, if you were talking to your peers, to your peers, and they said, Stu, have you met with the Rush people?
01:28:34.260If I asked you, have you met with the Rush people?
01:28:39.520To your peers, a group of people that know how premier radio works and everything else.
01:28:43.280If I had a, if I had met with someone from Rush Limbaugh's company who came to be, see there, I would say, I met with them on this, but not on anything else.
01:31:06.400I mean, he did not do a good job with that answer.
01:31:08.720He's opened himself up to this criticism.
01:31:11.180However, obviously, we all should understand and realize that's part of his job.
01:31:16.200And if we were in a sensible society where everyone covered the news accurately, we would all step back and say, okay, I think I understand what he was meaning.
01:32:09.560You notice that Claire McCaskill isn't giving him that leeway because it's all about politics and all about convincing people who don't understand these committees to win them over against Donald Trump.
01:32:22.740And it probably will work for some people.
01:33:24.060This is why I think it's going to happen globally when there is a depression-like event.
01:33:31.140The banks will close and they will reopen and you'll have X number of days to, you know, turn your dollars in.
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01:37:06.460A group like this is going to see everything you can think of from the name printed,
01:37:11.040In God We Trust printed on money to, you know, Ten Commandments battles to crosses to commemorate veterans who have died.
01:37:20.700I mean, you're going to see all of that.
01:37:21.680I'm sure even Hobby Lobby, God forbid, if they would see that as a religious imposition on government to say that religions should have to purchase birth control for people who work at religious hospitals.
01:37:40.480I'm sure they would see that as somehow an intrusion.
01:37:43.640And they see everything as an intrusion.
01:37:45.080This is an advocacy group, which is kind of what you talk about, Pat, because it's one thing to come out with an opinion, to believe something.
01:37:51.060I mean, there's no requirement to believe the same thing your dad believed.
01:37:54.860But, I mean, to use your name, again, the only reason the Freedom From Religion Foundation would want Ron Reagan as his spokesperson is because his dad was Ronald Reagan.
01:43:47.840To be the national spokesperson for that organization is really pushing it.
01:43:53.440But then when you realize like it would be one thing if Ron Reagan was a well-established expert in this area for 100 million years and was a guy who, you know, I don't know, a professor of studies.
01:44:09.320But I know him as a guy who's a it was like on MSNBC.
01:44:12.660And the only reason MSNBC would even in theory put this guy on is because here's a guy with the last name Reagan saying liberal things and the same thing here.
01:44:31.920And the same thing happens here in which you're using the only reason the Freedom From Religion Foundation would be interested in him as a spokesperson.
01:44:42.560He's not exactly the greatest communicator of all time.
01:44:46.040The only reason they put him in this role is because his name is Ronald Reagan.
01:44:49.860It's the only reason and he has to know that and to use that power that only he has to work against everything your father stood for only seems to be sane if you hated the man.