A woman who says, "I just haven't stopped crying since she was hit with what's called the Tumblr Revenge." A woman who sued Tumblr after a tape of her having sex with her boyfriend when she was 17 was shared online and shared 1,200 times.
00:02:51.600So let me give you the top line here, which is if you are in a relationship and you have a sex tape and then you break up, then you post it because you're mad at them.
00:03:06.72027-year-old Bronx woman sued the blogging site in Manhattan Supreme Court last week after a tape of her having sex with her boyfriend 10 years ago when she was 17 was posted in December and shared 1,200 times.
00:03:21.400The post included the woman's name and a link to her Facebook page.
00:03:26.500She learned that the private X-rated video was on the site when strange men started contacting her through Facebook with obscene messages, which they describe and I don't need to.
00:03:44.040Tumblr CEO David Karp is on the board of pro-women's rights groups such as Planned Parenthood leading a fundraising campaign that gave at least $80,000 last month.
00:03:54.220Victims say they're outraged at the site's apparent contradictory behavior.
00:03:58.400In my opinion, Tumblr has chose to ignore valid legal demands because they make more money using victims' photographs as clickbait than they do protecting minors.
00:04:10.240Well, I don't think just because you're giving money to Planned Parenthood means you're protecting minors.
00:04:15.260In fact, I would make the case quite the opposite, but especially the extreme minor.
00:04:20.660Let me explain my dichotomy that I'm in.
00:04:30.200I actually feel really bad for these women who this happens to, and yet at the same time I'm like, don't get into a porn video with your boyfriend.
00:04:43.420Yeah, I mean, look, this is an illegal activity, right?
00:04:45.740I mean, if you use videos like this in this way against someone's will, that is a crime.
00:04:53.540There's one story in here that there's one story here about a woman who was married and her husband did what Jeffy, for a strange reason, 52-year-old mother of two,
00:05:05.320discovered nearly a dozen private semi-naked images of her with her husband that had been posted to the site after she lost her phone.
00:05:16.740So somebody took her phone, found the naked pictures of her with her husband, and posted them.
00:05:22.320Why do people feel, a 52-year-old woman, why do we feel it's necessary to take naked pictures of ourselves and keep them on the phone?
00:05:35.520It really is incredible, seemingly, how common this is.
00:22:57.580Okay, so I remember advising you not to do that.
00:23:00.360Yeah, I did this whole hour where I built it up and I said, listen, I want you to know, I'm going to talk about something that I've never shared before.
00:23:11.160And I did this really heartfelt monologue of the first time I fell in love.
00:23:17.540And I'm not going to be ashamed of it anymore.
00:23:20.760And it was up on the Ferris wheel when I was a kid and I kissed my sister.
00:23:28.020Yeah, and it was a whole thing to see if I could sway the audience to defend brother-sister love and got them there until the end I was supposed to then come in and say, okay, so here's the thing.
00:23:47.940I'm just making a point here that I can get you to believe anything if I put enough.
00:23:58.240If I give you enough love stuff and heart stuff, you're going to fall for anything.
00:24:02.920Well, unfortunately, it was when I was first starting syndication and President Bush had to give a speech about 9-11.
00:24:12.160And the affiliates all dropped off literally at the explanation.
00:24:17.880So for 24 hours, I had affiliates calling saying, we are not running this show ever again.
00:24:26.480So anyway, so your point here, the reason why I wanted to get you on is your point.
00:24:31.900So you can admire Glenn to be the first to say enough and take a stand against it.
00:24:35.660But until he finds honest partners on the left who are willing to share the risk and stand by him, I'm afraid his efforts are doomed to fail.
00:24:43.060Yeah, well, it was kind of mostly inspired by what had happened with Sam B.
00:24:49.160Because I heard the segment that you had her on your radio show when I was driving out to Orlando.
00:24:57.340And I thought, well, you know, I've never been a big fan of Samantha Bee.
00:25:00.220You know, obviously, I'm a creature of the right myself.
00:25:02.380And, you know, kind of think she's a lot of opinions are kind of full of it.
00:25:04.740But listening to that, I thought to myself, all right, well, you know, this is worth a try, because it's kind of akin to some of the things that I've had to do in mostly my online dealings with people, especially since I've gotten more into political blogging and whatnot.
00:25:17.940You can get into arguments with people.
00:25:19.300But my philosophy was always to be to, all right, I'm not going to be able to persuade people by putting them down, making them feel stupid, calling them names.
00:25:26.560And I always tried to deal with them in a respectful kind of way.
00:25:28.720So when I heard you and Samantha going back and forth and talking to each other about how we need to change the tone and how we converse with one another, I did respond to that.
00:25:36.580But a couple of weeks later, she's on her show, and she's comparing this poor cancer survivor at CPAC to a Nazi because of his haircut.
00:25:45.160And it just kind of really struck me because I thought, well, you know, she really took it to heart, the conversations you had.
00:25:50.640She really, really wanted to go ahead and change the tone.
00:25:53.340She wouldn't be doing that kind of thing.
00:25:55.140And it just kind of concerned me because, you know, I'm a big leader in the effort that you're trying to do here.
00:26:01.060And I think that you're taking, obviously, a tremendous career risk, potentially alienating people in your audience.
00:26:06.460I know you're probably getting a lot of names being called, you know, particularly from the right, about being a sellout and whatnot and trying to coddle the left and whatnot.
00:26:13.120But, you know, I do believe that we have to start someplace.
00:26:16.340But I'm just really concerned about partnering up with the wrong people who aren't really taking it to heart and who are maybe just using this as an opportunity to promote themselves instead of actually really starting a dialogue and trying to make the conversation more civil between the left and the right.
00:26:29.800So I'm thinking and Mark, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your attitude and your approach on this.
00:26:37.020We've talked about this for a long time, and we believe we're going to have to kiss a thousand frogs before we find one prince because it is difficult to.
00:27:56.340And I could tell you that there are people that, you know, let's look at Bill Maher, even Samantha Bee, that have said some really difficult things about people on the right.
00:28:21.040So it requires somebody to be humble enough to say, what part did I play in this?
00:28:26.100Yeah, well, that was another aspect of the WAPO article that kind of set me back a little bit as well, too, because the tone of it was all, you know, here's Glenn Beck.
00:28:36.020He's trying to hug his way back into bringing America back together.
00:28:39.600I thought that was an unfair article, by the way.
00:28:43.280I thought it took some things, to some liberty with some things that was not the right tone.
00:28:49.800Yeah, well, the thing that struck me about that was that it made this, it proceeded from this assumption that it was all you're doing.
00:28:59.700And, or, you know, you can extrapolate that to it's all on the right side of the political spectrum, where all the hatred is coming from and where all the acrimony is coming from.
00:29:11.180And, you know, if, yeah, if the author, Mark Fisher, had seen fits to balance it out a little bit and maybe seeking out some people on the left and talking about how they contribute to the, you know, the overall corruption of, you know, how we talk to each other, how we think of each other in this country.
00:29:27.880I think it would have been a heck of a lot.
00:29:29.000I will tell you, Mark, that you're right on the money and I'm waiting for somebody to do that.
00:29:33.880And so far, nobody is willing to do that.
00:29:54.740I've been getting a few hate tweets myself.
00:29:56.080You know, I'm just Joe Nobody who writes an article on the internet.
00:29:59.000So I can't even imagine what that would be like magnified, you know, a million fold, like what you're dealing with here.
00:30:03.800And I think that, you know, people on the left, particularly those who make their living in the media,
00:30:08.860and they have this image that they have to uphold, are thinking the same thing and saying, Holy crap, I don't want that happening to me.
00:30:14.500You know, I want to give my audience what they want.
00:30:16.340And that's kind of what I think what Samantha Bee was doing when she was doing her Nazi shtick with the, with CPAC attendees,
00:30:22.240is that, oh, well, maybe she got a few hate tweets of her own off of, you know, appearing with Glenn Beck or having you on her show.
00:30:28.800And thinking, well, I got to go throw a bone out here to my listeners or my viewers and, you know, let them know that I'm not being, you know, going all soft on the right.
00:30:55.760But, I mean, I was interested in seeing your article because you talked about the days of 970 WFLA, the mothership of this particular show.
00:31:24.080We should always just make the first victim ourselves.
00:31:27.120And so that was the way we ran the show.
00:31:28.960But, I mean, her joke, is that just a funny line that we should all just be able to get over?
00:31:36.540Or is it really some, you know, attack that shows that she's not being an honest partner in whatever is trying to be done here?
00:31:45.200Well, you know, I mean, I love to employ humor in the stuff that I write as well, too.
00:31:49.840And, you know, God knows that Twitter, Twitter being the medium that it is, it just lends itself to snark.
00:31:54.140And I've definitely been, you know, guilty of doing that myself from time to time, although I've never called anybody a commie or a pinko or anything like that.
00:32:01.720But, yeah, and I, you know, but I do, I really, one of the things about the mean culture that we have right now is that, yeah, it does make it increasingly difficult to make even good jokes and to laugh at each other because everybody's taking themselves so damn seriously.
00:32:16.520And I think that, you know, if maybe the way we react to things like the Nazi joke on Samantha Bee's show is because we on the right have taken it on the shin so much from the popular culture where we're always cast as the fuddy-duddies.
00:32:32.560We're always cast as, you know, the ones who want to get into everybody's bedrooms and we don't want you to have any fun and whatnot.
00:32:37.180When, you know, really a lot of that's actually what's going on on the left these days.
00:32:40.960And it's just, you know, I guess it just makes us really mad because we've been the butt of jokes so many times.
00:32:46.300And that, you know, leftists really typically have an extremely difficult time laughing at themselves.
00:32:53.840So, you know, I think maybe that's where we are.
00:32:56.640I tell you, Mark, when somebody actually hears, really hears what you just said on the left, when they really hear you, things will change.
00:33:12.600I've been trying and they don't hear that message yet.
00:33:16.940But once they do, I think we can come together.
00:33:19.640I do hope that that is the case, because my fondest wish in our politics is that, you know, we stop yelling at each other and actually start talking to one another instead.
00:33:31.460But, you know, the way things are right now, it's all emotion.
00:33:35.240It's, you know, very little debating the actual facts.
00:33:37.840And, you know, I think that, you know, how we came to that is, you know, obviously we've got mainstream media that's out there stirring the pot as well, too, because, you know, it gets some clicks and it gets some views.
00:33:47.600If people are screaming at one another, Washington's happy with that, because they get away with whatever they want to get away with, because people are distracted with minutia rather than, you know, taking a look at the real big issues and things that are really affecting them on a day-to-day basis.
00:33:59.960So you do have this entrenched power structure that's in place that has a vested interest in keeping us at each other's throat.
00:34:06.120So, yeah, it's going to be really tough.
00:34:09.560Do I, what I really wanted to ask you was, you said, well, I think it's doomed for failure.
00:34:15.960So do I continue or do I not continue?
00:34:19.980No, it's only if you get the wrong partners that it's doomed for failure.
00:34:24.260The interesting thing about the, what you were mentioning about Riaz, your friend as well, too, is that maybe he's going to be more of an honest partner because he's less of a celebrity.
00:34:32.120You know, he's got, you know, less of a reputation to uphold, I guess, with his audience, because he's kind of more of a behind-the-scenes type guy.
00:34:39.560So I think maybe you might be more productive with that than, you know.
00:34:42.260Going back to the last segment, maybe you ought to watch How It'll Look Good Naked.
00:45:56.500He seems to just want to do the right thing, follow the law.
00:45:59.880So I think they're going to have a real hard time.
00:46:03.740And, you know, I'll tell people, Glenn, watch for themselves.
00:46:07.580You know, go at Trump nominee dot com where we've got our website there.
00:46:10.600The first link is just watch the hearings.
00:46:12.600And I think you'll see pretty quickly why they're having a hard time.
00:46:18.140And but that's their only hope, again, in my opinion, their only hope is to catch him in something in these hearings.
00:46:26.260And, again, that would I think that would be a surprise to a lot of people.
00:46:30.080But that's, I think, what they're hoping for, knowing that otherwise their arguments really do seem to fall apart whenever they even start, because they just don't have much.
00:46:38.480Anything in particular we should watch for today?
00:46:40.020I just watch watch the Democratic senators.
00:46:44.580Obviously, the Republican senators are going to say nice things, prop him up, do that.
00:46:49.340I watch the Democratic senators and see you might have some asking about judicial philosophy, which might be very educational to people.
00:46:55.820But I think the real thing is going to be the Democratic senators are going to try to go after him.
00:47:00.420They're going to try to force him to state where he stands on abortion and on a number of issues, which I would guess he's not going to answer.
00:47:07.900Because judges typically don't answer about policy issues that might come before them.
00:47:13.020They would want to see the facts of a particular case.
00:47:15.540And so they don't want to prejudice himself or look like they're prejudiced.
00:47:19.060So my guess is they're going to try to force him to answer and they're going to complain.
00:47:23.080And he's he's not going to take debate.
00:47:25.760And we're going to have a couple of days of this.
00:47:27.900And then eventually in, what, three weeks, four weeks or whatever, I think we'll have Gorsuch on the court.
00:59:33.580There is not a Republican War on Women.
00:59:36.240So, bless you, that even an actress in the leftist world of Hollywood hysteria,
00:59:42.560she was so very unaware of this nonsensical non-issue.
00:59:47.260Yet, Bill Maher attempts to explain the concept to her.
00:59:51.320Well, you know, I think he's referring back to it.
00:59:53.380Now, this is something the Republicans did improve upon, I must say.
00:59:56.100Back in 2010, they were the legitimate rape people.
01:00:00.080They could not stop talking about ladies' private parts.
01:00:04.800Consider that quote for just a minute.
01:00:07.500Back in 2010, they were the legitimate rape people?
01:00:12.340Being legitimate rape people would certainly seem to imply that you've legitimately actually raped someone, wouldn't it?
01:00:22.280Instead, Marr alleges that what made them legitimate rape people was that they could not stop talking about ladies' private parts.
01:00:31.880First of all, call me crazy, but I consider talking a separate and distinct issue from actually raping.
01:00:40.240In reality, what took place in 2010 was that two little-known Republicans clumsily spoke about issues related to rape.
01:00:50.240And that was the sum total of Republicans being legitimate rape people.
01:00:56.200But it's rhetoric like that that has created the hysteria surrounding this so-called war on women.
01:01:02.960So nonsensical is this issue that during the 2012 Republican primary debates, ABC News' George Stephanopoulos directed this bizarre question to Mitt Romney.
01:01:16.180Governor Romney, do you believe that states have the right to ban contraception, or is that trumped by a constitutional right to privacy?
01:01:23.260George, this is an unusual topic that you're raising.
01:01:27.700States have a right to ban contraception.
01:01:29.740I can't imagine a state banning contraception.
01:01:32.220I can't imagine the circumstances where a state would want to do so.
01:01:35.200And if I were a governor of a state or a legislator of a state, I would totally and completely oppose any effort to ban contraception.
01:01:43.260So you're asking, given the fact that there's no state that wants to do so, and I don't know of any candidate that wants to do so, you're asking, could it constitutionally be done?
01:01:51.860We can ask our constitutionalist here.
01:02:02.140I'm sure, Congressman Paul Blaine, but I'm asking you, do you believe that states have that right or not?
01:02:08.300George, I don't know whether the state has the right to ban contraception.
01:02:13.340I mean, the idea of you putting forward things that states might want to do that no state wants to do and asking me whether they could do it or not is kind of a silly thing, I think.
01:02:23.060All of this is not to say that there has never been issues concerning women's rights.
01:02:28.500Women have, over time, had cause for concern.
01:02:43.300Commonly referred to as women's suffrage, the fight for women's right to vote began around 1830.
01:02:50.700It really heated up in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and the effort culminated in the passage of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution in 1920.
01:03:01.440Tennessee was the last state needed to ratify the amendment, and it passed there by a single vote.
01:03:07.340The United States was one of the very first nations on the planet to recognize the right of women to vote.
01:03:15.120As early as 1718 in the U.S., in Pennsylvania, married women were allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse.
01:03:27.040It may surprise some to know that in 1840, the Republic of Texas allowed married women to own property in their own name, period.
01:03:37.000The same thing applied in Maine and Maryland, with a provision that they couldn't control the land they own.
01:03:44.200All of which sounds ridiculous to us today, but 180 years ago, these were huge steps.
01:03:51.300Most of the rights obtained by women in the 1800s were obtained in the United States.
01:03:57.440By 1855, the University of Iowa became co-ed.
01:04:01.580Elsewhere in the world, these things were unheard of.
01:04:05.040When referring to things like abortion, progressives like to claim that since the Supreme Court ruled on the issue,
01:04:11.760it's settled law, thus ending the debate for all time.
01:04:14.980However, 100 years before abortion was settled law, the issue of a woman's right to vote also became settled law with the Supreme Court,
01:04:26.920ruling in 1874 that women had no right to vote.
01:04:31.860In Missouri, a woman named Virginia Minor decided that it was definitely time for her and her fellow women to vote.
01:04:38.240She sued for the right, and the case went all the way to the Supreme Court.
01:04:42.200The Supreme Court decided in Minor v. Happersett that Missouri law limiting the right to vote to male citizens is constitutional.
01:04:52.120The court rejected the claim by Minor that state law deprives her of one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship in violation of the 14th Amendment.
01:05:01.620Amazingly, the court ruled that while women are people under the 14th Amendment,
01:05:06.780they are in a special category of non-voting people, and states may grant or deny them the right to vote.
01:05:15.840So, really, let's stop with the Supreme Court settled law.
01:05:21.300Since 1920, the front lines of this war have often involved contraception and abortion.
01:05:28.220Supposedly, fighting for the life of an unborn baby is exactly denying a woman their reproductive rights,
01:05:34.060when, in fact, the protection of the life inside the womb is actually ensuring the completion of that reproductive right.
01:05:43.260In addition, it is safe to assume that just over half of the lives saved by not aborting babies would, one day, grow up to be women.
01:05:54.140In 2012, Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke testified to Congress about the hardships faced by female students over contraception.
01:06:05.860Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school.
01:06:12.820For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that's practically an entire summer's salary.
01:06:18.820Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy.
01:06:27.920One told us of how embarrassed and just powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter
01:06:35.860and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance,
01:06:40.480and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn't afford that prescription.
01:06:44.380Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception.
01:06:49.900Just last week, a married female student told me that she had to stop using contraception
01:06:55.220because she and her husband just couldn't fit it into their budget anymore.
01:07:00.220Women employed in low-wage jobs without contraceptive coverage faced this same choice.
01:07:05.640It costs $3,000 for birth control while attending law school?
01:07:10.600Well, I have to be frank with you, that's either an awful lot of sex,
01:07:17.340or you're buying your birth control devices at Tiffany's.
01:07:21.820First of all, to believe that the United States government should have any role whatsoever
01:07:26.400in assisting Americans to have sexual relations is preposterous.
01:07:31.900It's not just unconstitutional, it's unthinkable.
01:07:35.020And second, even without any government involvement or even insurance company contributions,
01:07:40.740birth control can be obtained incredibly cheaply and, in many cases, absolutely free.
01:07:47.660Over the years, the war on women has become a charged political flashpoint.
01:07:53.400Imagine paying 20% more for a cup of coffee just because you're a woman.
01:07:57.740So why does Congress think it's okay that women get paid 20% less than a man for doing the same job?
01:08:05.620I'll fight for pay equity, to protect Planned Parenthood, choice for women, and expand paid and family leave.
01:08:13.280Now, some politicians will belittle this as a women's agenda.
01:08:17.080More proof that we just need more women in Congress.
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01:08:22.600The fact that women earn 79 cents for every dollar a man makes is continually cited.
01:08:30.100But even the Washington Post has attempted to dispel this falsehood.
01:08:35.360They've written about it every year since 2012 and have most recently given the claim the dreaded two Pinocchios.
01:08:43.240There's a multitude of factors to consider.
01:08:46.380One of them is that the average man has more experience in the workplace than the average woman,
01:08:50.780and experience is one factor that plays a big role in determining pay.
01:08:55.800The Washington Post also notes that women tend to leave the workforce for periods to raise children to seek jobs
01:09:02.780that may have more flexible hours but lower pay, and choose careers that tend to have lower pay.
01:09:09.900By the way, BLS data shows that women who have never married have virtually no wage gap.
01:09:16.320In 2011, economists at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis noted that women may prefer to accept jobs with lower wages
01:09:24.280but greater benefits, more flexible parental leave, for instance.
01:09:28.780Excluding such fringe benefits from the calculation would exaggerate the wage disparity.
01:09:33.960In 2013, in an article from the Daily Beast citing a Georgetown University survey on economic value of different college majors,
01:09:44.180it showed that nine out of the ten most remunerative majors, such as petroleum and aerospace engineering,
01:09:51.240were dominated by men, while nine of the ten least paying majors,
01:09:55.920such as social work and early childhood education, were dominated by women.
01:10:01.020Again, when comparing similar education, experience, skill level,
01:10:07.260women earn about the same as men, and in some industries, slightly more.
01:10:12.580There are certain societies on this planet where a case can be made
01:10:16.400that a type of war on women actually exists,
01:10:21.440but the media doesn't want to talk about that one.
01:33:45.740So, what is the one thing about Trump, because you are in his head, what is the one thing about Trump that the average person misses that maybe you're surprised that not everybody sees?
01:34:00.640I think the fact that there's absolutely no nuance, it's black or white, there's no middle ground on something.
01:34:08.980It's either absolutely tremendous or it's a total disaster.
01:47:29.280You know, and I was building I was in the process of building a White House press room in my house because I do so much stuff for my home because I have an audio studio there.