3 Reasons Why Trump's Madison Square Garden Rally BROKE the Left | 10⧸28⧸24
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Glenn and Stu talk about an unfortunate Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden and how to deal with it. Also, a woman named Kamala Harris is running for president, and she's doing it with a campaign platform that s full of lies.
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Do you know there was a Nazi rally 85 years ago?
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And that defines the venue of Madison Square Garden.
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How many Nazi rallies has Billy Joel held there?
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So, yeah, an unfortunate Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden.
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Pat, you know, they packed an entire arena filled with Nazis,
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and many of them, the rarest of Nazis, Israel supporting Nazis.
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You almost never see them, but they were there in mass, oddly, with Israeli flags.
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Did you see the, I think it was the MSNBC banner.
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The way they promoted and covered the rally was Trump and supporters,
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something like Trump and supporters, hold rally where 85 years ago, Nazis held a rally.
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I mean, what does that have to do with this particular rally when it's so obvious
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that they're trying to tie him to Nazis, to Hitler,
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because that's their last little push here before the election?
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Like, Madison Square Garden is like the arena in America.
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You're defining it by one rally that they had in 1933 or whatever it was.
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Look, 39, like, this is, everything's happened there, right?
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Like, I mean, Willis Reed walking out for a freaking NBA championship.
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I actually feel worse for Madison Square Garden than I do Republicans and Trump.
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And we know it's just, we know why it's happening, right?
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It's because, you're right, they're closing, in all of their wisdom.
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Is the guy who has almost been murdered in front of our eyes, twice at least, is a Nazi.
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What have we done historically with Nazis, Pat?
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We try to eliminate them by ending their lives.
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I keep thinking of this because it is one of my favorites of all time.
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But when you try to kill Adolf Hitler, Tom Cruise makes movies about your life.
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And everyone says, wow, what a hero that guy was.
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We should remember him and memorialize his life and struggles in feature films featuring Tom Cruise.
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But like, their closing argument is a guy who's almost been murdered in front of our eyes twice is a Nazi.
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That shows you how weak this campaign is for Kamala Harris and Timmy Tampon Tim Walls.
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Can we dive into that a little bit more, Pat, and expand on that idea?
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Because I think you point out, why are they doing this?
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Number one, I think, and probably true, is what you just said.
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And they're like, well, let's go back to what Biden was doing, which, again, is a strange
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turn of events, considering they threw the guy out of the party.
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But they're going back to that approach that they've been doing for years and just calling
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Number two is, I mean, I hate to say it this way, but they just want the guy dead.
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Their actual goal of this approach is to get Donald Trump killed so he does not become
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I think you've got to throw that into the equation here as a possibility.
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It's about as dark as I can ever imagine thinking politics gets.
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But you have to consider it after what, because the normal human approach after watching your
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opponent take a bullet to the head is to say, holy crap, let's not at least be responsible
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They don't, they don't seem to care about it at all.
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And it makes you think maybe they care about it in the opposite direction.
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Maybe a good part of their, uh, their, their idea here is like, if he dies, he won't win.
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Do what we can to inspire the worst elements of our society to just try this.
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I, I, I, that is a, as dark a thought as I've had, but I did have that honestly the
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other day, like, because I am not a person who would blame, you know, a political party
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and their messaging for, um, for something like this.
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I mean, people have tried to do that to us forever.
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Every time someone does something bad on the right, they say, well, he once had Glenn
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back on his radio and they try to blame Glenn for it.
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You should be able to say things that are even pretty far, I think, when it comes to rhetorical
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statements without taking responsibility for every nut job who's following you.
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I said that about Bernie freaking Sanders when his own campaign volunteer tried to murder
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10% of elected Republicans in Washington, DC, but like Bernie Sanders, you know, didn't
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That guy was kind of right with his, his, his, uh, reasoning on the murders.
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Especially that second guy at the golf course was echoing this exact language.
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And now they're using it as their closing argument.
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I don't know where to go other to think that maybe they just think this is a good thing.
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Well, and when Peter Doocy has asked KJP about it, she's essentially said, no, we have
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Don't you worry that this rhetoric is going to inspire another threat against Trump's life?
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To give you a third, I got a third possibility to, to throw out there for this, which is they
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There are no more gettable, persuadable middle of the road voters.
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There's no more Republicans that are going to come on board.
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So their conclusion electorally is to say, let's switch gears to the turnout operation.
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Let's get every MSNBC voter we can get, go with the harshest rhetoric we can, try to
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Whatever we can get out of those people we've gotten already.
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But the third one is, I don't know, 10% chance.
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I don't know what it is, but I'm starting to think, hey, this idea that they just kind
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of want the guy to get shot, it has to be something you're considering.
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I don't think they'd be too upset if they, if it happened.
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But at Madison Square Garden, here's what Donald Trump had to say.
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You know, this was his big speech for a Nazi rally.
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So, you know, I have no idea, honestly, you know, why they're doing this.
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And, like, the other one that they had was this big, this gotcha moment where this comedian
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I will say, I'm not super big in watching roasts.
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But I had not heard of him until I watched the Tom Brady roast.
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And this guy was probably the hard, I mean, really funny, but the harshest of that entire
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roast, which was among the most uncomfortable things I've ever watched in my entire life.
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I mean, as a person who was victimized by him in the Super Bowl, my Philadelphia Eagles,
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It wasn't because I'm like, oh, gosh, poor Tom Brady.
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So he was probably the most brutal and one of the funniest of the entire thing.
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His entire shtick is to say really uncomfortable things.
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Because it's just not a good thing for this moment.
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And this is what they're going to use to prove the fact that, yeah, see, we told you
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It's his entire career is doing this and saying things that are intentionally offensive.
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You know, if you look at the Tom Brady roast, they all said really offensive things.
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Most of them would be on stage with Kamala Harris.
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They had no problem bringing out Eminem, who was talking about abusing women and gays
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throughout basically the entire rise of his career.
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And he's totally fine to come out and support Kamala Harris.
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How many times, and like, we don't say multiple F-words on the show because of FCC regulations
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But, you know, the F-word has been frequently used by Eminem.
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Not the normal one you're thinking of, but the one to describe gay people.
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The guy constantly, that was his entire shtick for years.
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And he's totally fine to be on stage with Kamala Harris.
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That putting an entertainer who said crazy crap on stage...
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In this environment is probably not a good idea.
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But also, we should probably just all be adults about it and realize that's kind of...
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Like, you know, actors that play Hitler, should they...
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They are doing things that, you know, they're saying things, horrible things.
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You know, Leonardo DiCaprio said the N-word about nine trillion times in one of those Quentin Tarantino movies.
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It kind of seems like a childish way to look at it, frankly.
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He's writing jokes that are supposed to be offensive.
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So, one of the things the comedian said, and I don't even know his name.
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But I honestly had no awareness of him whatsoever.
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It was more my ignorance than his lack of success.
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I mean, that's why he was invited to the rally, right?
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I mean, he's a big, and this is also directly in the core of the types of audiences Donald Trump's going after.
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I mean, he's in that sort of circle, and I can see why you'd want him on stage for a rally like that.
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You just have to, either you have to get an agreement from him to not go down some crazy road, or you need to maybe...
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Put his name on your website and not necessarily invite him to speak.
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But here's one of the things that he had to say that they've taken issue with.
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Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now.
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And then, like, everyone on the left is like, we've never heard of a roast.
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We don't know that this person is famous for this exact activity.
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And to be fair, from a political standpoint, obviously, they're going to try to take advantage of whatever they can.
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Like, we weren't personally aware of this guy, you know, a year ago.
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So, like, a lot of people, probably 90% of people, don't even know who he is.
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They just think he's a guy who's offensive but doesn't like Puerto Rico.
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The Tom Brady roast was viewed, like, the most viewed thing on Netflix in the last year.
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Deny everything you've seen on Netflix to get political points.
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Because they all want the Menendez brothers to go free.
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But we're going to deny that everyone saw the Tom Brady roast.
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I mean, how long do you have to stay in jail for that?
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How hard must you slap a wrist in a situation like this?
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And apparently, as there's some evidence, it was true.
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But my favorite, just let me give you one more point on the Menendez thing.
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Have you ever seen this Mark Jackson basketball card?
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So Mark Jackson, he played at a place they held a Nazi rally, Madison Square Garden, by the way.
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I mean, I tie that directly to Mark Jackson, the point guard for the Knicks.
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And he's just dribbling, as one would do, playing basketball.
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And in the background, center court, front row, are the Menendez brothers.
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They're sitting in the background of this basketball card.
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He had a funeral today to attend to, a close relative.
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So he, I mean, he was, you know, very troubled by missing a show this close to the election.
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But it's worth noting that the ABC poll in 2016, two weeks before the election, had Hillary up by 12.
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And the comparisons you should make, when you compare polls, it's best to not compare different pollsters to each other.
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Because they all have different methodologies, you know, just like anything else.
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This is a quote-unquote, you know, it's a science at some level, but it's also, there's art to it.
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Every one of these pollsters makes decisions about who they include, how they weight people, you know, how they weight different demographic groups and education groups and genders and all these things.
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Individuals making decisions that go into this.
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So, if you're going to compare polls, you know, eight years away from each other, it's a bit of a stretch.
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But you want to compare an ABC poll to an ABC poll.
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Because they're at least theoretically going through the same methodology.
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And when you do that and you see movement like this, that's what we saw with the, I think it was the, was it the New York Times Siena poll the other day that came out and had them tied.
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And if you include third parties, had Trump up 47 to 46.
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Their previous poll from like a month earlier had Kamala Harris up by three.
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So, you see a movement toward Trump between two polls closely next together, highly rated pollster, and the same methodology.
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They are not designed to give you specific information about a 12-vote victory by one candidate or the other.
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And what you can tell by a lot of these national polls is the popular vote should be pretty close.
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Should be closer than what we've seen in previous elections.
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And I don't know what's going to happen with it.
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Like right now, Pat, this is, let me give you this.
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This is from Real Clear Politics, the most recent polls.
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And they do an average, by the way, which is for the first time that I will say I can remember.
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First time since basically Harris had her rise as a candidate.
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Donald Trump leads the Real Clear Politics average 48.5% to 48.4%.
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The overwhelming underdog in polling leading up to his last two runs.
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And the best piece of evidence to feel confident about a Donald Trump win right now is not looking
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at this data and saying, oh, wow, it looks like he's clearly winning.
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Because that is not what the data shows us at this point.
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I've talked to, I spent the whole weekend talking to friends and, you know, everyone talks about politics.
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I'm sure the same thing with you, Pat, because it's your business.
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And they ask questions about who's going to win.
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And I think like my general perception of people on the right right now is they are more confident than I would be looking at this data.
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I think Donald Trump is the favorite right now, but it is a slight favorite.
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And I am not overly confident that Donald Trump is going to win.
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And I would not be surprised if we wake up, you know, some terrible morning.
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Once that happens and a Kamala Harris wins this thing, it's not out of the question.
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It is not something you should not mentally prepare yourself for.
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Maybe physically prepare yourself with plane tickets.
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But it is one of those things that is definitely still on the table.
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I'm not going to, I'm not going to, you know, sit here and be overly optimistic about something.
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And I would say that I, in previous elections with Trump, it would be the opposite.
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I would rather have been Hillary Clinton going into that election night, even though she lost.
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I would rather, if I, you walked in and you got into my head, who would you rather be?
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If you go into 2020, I would have rather been Joe Biden.
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If you go into 2024 right now, we're a week out for the election.
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And really, when you think about it, like you mentioned, the national poll doesn't mean all that much.
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What means a lot more, I think, are the seven battleground states.
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And that's, he's leading in all of them, right?
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If you want to go through them real quick, we can.
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Pennsylvania is, of course, the one that most people have talked about.
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Trump is up by 0.5 points in the RealClearPolitics average.
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Now, normally, what I would tell you about a two-point polling average lead is, I don't know.
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You could say that Trump has a slight advantage there, but not by much.
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And Arizona, you've got Trump plus one and a half.
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If you want to go to Nevada as well, Trump plus 0.7.
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None of them, I would have actual confidence that he was going to win.
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Now, you could say Arizona and Georgia you feel the most confident about, but none of them.
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Let me give you another example of this, Pat, that you will relate to.
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So, Trump right now as a favorite to the betting odds is a minus 185.
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Well, the Green Bay Packers yesterday going into their game against the Jacksonville Jaguars
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That is a game they won with a field goal at the buzzer.
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If you are a person who has ever bet on football, the way the markets are telling you this looks
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Teams win and lose all the time when they're four-point favorites.
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So, if you're thinking to yourself, ah, we got this in the bag.
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I'm not going to bother with X, Y, and Z activities that might help the campaign.
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You might want to eliminate that thought from your thought process at this point.
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It's interesting to note, in this ABC poll, which, by the way, again, has Harris up by
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four, on certain issues, like Trump is up by 12 points on immigration in this poll.
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Trump is up by eight points on the economy overall.
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This should remind you that very few people in this country are making the decision based
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They're making the decision based largely on just general partisanship.
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And then a lot of people who are making their decision based on, they saw a Hitler meme
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Like, you can't look at this economy and the border, especially the border, and say,
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oh, well, there's a good argument that they did a good job there.
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His own, the economic advisors in the Obama administration blame Biden for the inflation.
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Seven points on the war in Middle East, in the Middle East, and Harris is up on these
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Is that the one issue that is swinging all others?
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It's so strange, too, because the economy hits everybody.
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Every single person is met with some sort of economic challenge because of what Biden has
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The border hits everybody, largely because it's beyond crime, also hits the economy in
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Abortion, like, how many people have abortions?
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There are ridiculous estimates by women, of women that, you know, is in the, like, you know,
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But even if it were true, you're talking about, first of all, half of the people don't have
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This is going to be shocking to the left, but men can't have them.
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Um, there's a bunch of people that are not in childbearing age, right?
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Younger people, I guess for voters, I guess that wouldn't apply, but certainly older people
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get to a point where that's not really a concern.
00:34:52.980
Um, and, you know, of the people who are of women of childbearing age, a very small percentage
00:35:01.360
If they want to, sadly, they can get in a car and get one.
00:35:14.900
Like, this is not something, a situation that I, as a person who, uh, would be out of the
00:35:19.700
mainstream on my abortion opinion, I want, I want them to end, and I don't feel bad about
00:35:24.520
Um, but political polls will tell you that I'm not in the mainstream on that position.
00:35:30.120
I don't mind being in the mainstream about certain things.
00:35:31.920
Like, you know, probably there's a time when slavery was popular.
00:35:34.540
I wouldn't mind being against the mainstream saying, no, I don't think it's a good thing.
00:35:39.400
But regardless of all that, uh, it's a very, it hits a very small percentage of the population.
00:35:44.080
It is created by just odd fear mongering by the left.
00:35:49.340
The left is trying to scare women to think that they can't get healthcare, that they can't
00:35:53.720
get IVF treatments, that they can't get birth control.
00:35:59.960
It's that, it's that message that they've hammered so hard that I think it's generally
00:36:07.320
It's one of their, one of their lies that has worked.
00:36:20.920
The other, the other thing that's worked to a certain extent is the protecting American
00:36:31.920
How is she going to protect something that doesn't exist?
00:36:37.180
And why would you ever think that if we were, and if you want to call it a specialized American
00:36:42.740
democracy, whatever, we're a Republic, but let's call it an American democracy.
00:36:47.480
How is it that, that Kamala Harris is going to protect it?
00:36:51.780
What has she ever done to, to make you think she's capable?
00:36:59.440
It's, you know, and this is sadly, they have that to fall back on.
00:37:02.600
And you know, it's why it's part of why it's a problem, it was a problem approach to constantly
00:37:06.780
talk about the 2020 election for not, you know, not just after the election, but also
00:37:10.340
for years after it was, it was not as something that necessarily worked.
00:37:14.140
That being said, I, I, I'm, I don't know that it's that big of a factor, right?
00:37:17.640
An eight point lead, it shouldn't be that big of a factor on something like that.
00:37:21.660
Especially when, again, it's something that's not hitting people.
00:37:24.360
Like everyone looked at January 6th and thought, oh, that was bad, but it didn't do anything.
00:37:30.680
Can we all acknowledge that it didn't lead to anything?
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It didn't lead, like, they're like, oh, he's Hitler.
00:37:38.380
Like, oh, well, Mike Pence, luckily he stood up and he didn't certify the election.
00:37:48.400
Hitler kills Mike Pence and orders the army to just take over the building and he's still
00:37:57.840
He, look, I don't love every decision he made around the election.
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And I didn't like all, you know, some of the points that were brought up.
00:38:05.860
He, it was a three hour delay in the normal process.
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But can we put it in some level of perspective?
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It's not fun to have to admit, but almost nobody just is a good shot right out of the gate.
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You know, first time without any effort whatsoever.
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It's not like the movies where like you just pick up the gun and just, you know, just start
00:38:39.460
nailing every single horrible terrorist that's walking in.
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The truth is you have to practice kind of a lot to be any good at all, but that can cost
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Did you see that Kamala was booed at her own rally the other day?
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Because I guess it was because Beyonce didn't actually perform when everybody was told she
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Instead, she spoke for like three minutes and left.
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She spoke eloquently about how she really wants you to know the reason she's for abortion.
00:40:52.120
That is legitimately what she said her argument is.
00:41:08.580
And I'm very, very pro-life, as I've mentioned.
00:41:12.560
But, like, there's some part of me that understands some 23-year-old female being like, oh, crap,
00:41:17.640
And, you know, my life changes in a way I didn't want it to happen.
00:41:21.600
But, like, how does anyone who has a kid for abortion?
00:41:26.920
Even if you are, wouldn't you hide it from your kid?
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You know, I really wish I had the right to kill you.
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And have you seen the rumor that she was paid $10 million for that appearance at a rally?
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And yet, people keep getting hit by this all the time.
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It's one of those situations I just, I don't even understand it at this point.
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You're going to be locked down for all this stuff.
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If no one's watching out for your title, then it's really just a matter of time until
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Donald Trump made a huge appearance on Joe Rogan's show on Friday, but he was just there
00:44:32.240
I don't remember the name of it, but it was about an island.
00:44:36.280
It was about like, it was like one, like, you know, kind of hot, you know, girl next door
00:44:55.680
We'll get into some of what Trump had to say on Joe Rogan's show coming up in one minute.
00:45:00.060
Do you ever find yourself taking a good look around your house and saying, gosh, we just
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Look, it's a big change and no matter when you go through this, it's tough enough to figure out
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whether it's the right time or not and whether the market is right or not.
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I remember having conversations with you, Pat, about this and you went back and forth
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You don't want to complicate this with a bad real estate agent.
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And that can make your situation much, much, much worse.
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It exists to get you the best agent in your area.
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So, uh, Donald Trump, three hours of an interview with Joe Rogan.
00:46:14.960
So he went on the number one podcast for three hours.
00:46:22.160
I would love to play Donald Trump in hide and seek.
00:46:29.260
And he's doing three hour podcast interviews with Joe Rogan.
00:46:36.500
And, uh, so Rogan found him and they talked about, uh, his support among young people.
00:46:47.580
No, but you know the crazy, have you seen the numbers?
00:46:58.620
A Republican is always down 30 with young people.
00:47:05.440
I think young people are rejecting a lot of this woke bulls**t.
00:47:10.180
Young people are tired of being yelled at and scolded.
00:47:13.360
They're, they're tired of these people that they think are mentally ill telling them what
00:47:17.140
the moral standards of society should be today.
00:47:20.220
It's a big, there's a big difference now, but even in just a couple of years, I was shaking
00:47:36.280
And then the liberals are now pro, pro silencing criticism.
00:47:45.860
They're, they're talking about regulating free speech and now regulating the first amendment.
00:47:56.840
I always say, you know, I kid, but I'm not kidding.
00:48:00.140
I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone.
00:48:04.060
He'd kill you in two seconds if he didn't like you, right?
00:48:07.000
I've been under investigation more than Alphonse Capone only because it's political opponent
00:48:19.400
They did something that's only done in third world countries.
00:48:26.220
Well, not only that, but they're weaponizing it by saying that that's what you were going
00:48:37.880
They said, no, that's, they say, that's what you're doing to him.
00:48:47.580
Is he actually up by 30 points among the young people?
00:48:55.480
Quoting polling statistics is not necessarily a strength.
00:49:02.820
Many groups, black voters, Hispanic voters, younger voters.
00:49:08.620
I would, I would not, I would not summarize the view of the polls as him up 30 points among
00:49:15.920
He does it that way, no, but you know, he did and he did it, but I don't think people,
00:49:21.000
it's like saying, well, is Trump Tower really the greatest hotel of all time?
00:49:29.540
I, you know, I stayed at his Vegas property last time I was out there.
00:49:37.320
Like I, is it the number one hotel in the universe?
00:49:41.060
I mean, there's probably, there's probably something even nicer.
00:49:46.160
And that's what, you know, what was the, what was the saying?
00:49:52.480
Take him seriously that he's improved his lot among younger voters.
00:49:59.060
Is it plus 30 on any demographic, like young men?
00:50:07.320
Although I think he is leading with younger men now, which is pretty impressive.
00:50:16.320
Trump, it, Trump's equation in this election is interesting.
00:50:20.880
He's trading at some level, traditional Republican strongholds for groups that Republicans have
00:50:35.140
The other category, this is in the New York Times Siena poll.
00:50:39.820
The other, and I went through that entire poll, by the way, on an episode of State of the
00:50:44.920
If you go to the Studios America stream, if you want to hear that broken down into nerdy
00:50:48.720
detail that you'll never ever need, you can do, you can listen to that podcast and we're
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So if you want all your election nerd content, go to Studios America, follow that podcast
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and we'll have episodes of State of the Race along with the Studios America podcast.
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Among other, now other is Asian Americans, Native Americans, you know, I don't know what
00:51:13.640
other groups they're going to throw into that, but racial groups that are other, that means
00:51:29.180
I saw in some poll that he's actually down with white, non-college attending people.
00:51:37.480
Is that like down eight points or something with white people who didn't go to college?
00:51:47.360
Yeah, no, he actually, you know, I'll go back and check my homework here as we do this.
00:51:54.180
He was, he's trailing among white college educated voters.
00:51:57.980
He is leading among white non-college educated voters.
00:52:00.920
He is trailing among black college educated voters.
00:52:07.420
And he's, I don't think he's leading among black non-educated voters, but he is much more competitive than he, than previous Republicans have been.
00:52:22.580
I mean, like even in the, the age breakdowns are interesting.
00:52:26.100
He is still trailing among younger voters, which you'd think is typical.
00:52:30.020
And he is trailing among 25 to 34 as well, which you'd throw, okay, 18 to 25, he's trailing 25, 34 or 25 to 44.
00:52:44.780
You'd think though he does better with older voters.
00:52:47.500
He is leading among that, uh, I, we maybe call him generation X, right?
00:52:53.300
That voter, you know, uh, I'm in, I'm 48, I think, uh, now, which is weird to say.
00:52:59.340
Uh, but like in that group, he's leading Trump is leading.
00:53:04.820
He's actually in this poll trailing Kamala Harris by, I think it's two points among senior voters, 65 plus.
00:53:13.340
How can he be this competitive with that sort of breakdown, but it, it's how the, at least what the poll says.
00:53:20.980
Now, we don't know that that's going to be accurate, but that poll had Donald Trump ahead by one point, uh, overall.
00:53:28.420
He's got these slices of audience that he does really, really well with.
00:53:32.100
And you just, the big concern with this is voters, for example, younger voters, minority voters, Hispanic voters, traditionally less reliable to show up at the polls.
00:53:40.380
And so if you're depending on them, it may be, uh, you know, while it's a strength to break into those categories for the first time for Republicans, it may also be a weakness.
00:53:49.860
If you're trading them for suburban moms who always show up, right?
00:53:53.560
Like, so that is the risk here, but it is, it is a real, real, I think it's a real, real alignment.
00:53:57.840
I don't know if the, the question really is only whether it lasts past Donald Trump.
00:54:03.100
I think with Donald Trump on the ticket, it is a real, real alignment.
00:54:08.440
Traditional democratic voters are coming to Republican side.
00:54:10.900
Some traditional Republican voters are going to the opposite side.
00:54:16.040
And the first one, I think really we've witnessed Pat and all our time doing the show.
00:54:21.420
It is like, I, you kind of knew the basic outline of every single election until Donald Trump.
00:54:28.960
Uh, here he was speaking about energy with, uh, Joe Rogan.
00:54:37.500
You know, we have certain areas where we have great raw earth material and we're not allowed to use it because of the environment.
00:54:43.460
And we have areas in California that have incredible raw earth and they're not allowing, and I'm going to open it up.
00:54:52.840
How do you do that and protect the environment?
00:54:55.100
Because the environment is going to be protected.
00:55:03.980
You just have to do it carefully and responsibly.
00:55:08.420
But the problem, you know, China has all of those areas, most of those areas.
00:55:13.780
And yet, when they say go electric with the cars, China is going to be the one that gives us the cars.
00:55:19.720
All of those guys in Detroit are going to be out of business.
00:55:22.280
You're going to make your electric cars over there.
00:55:26.360
And we have more oil and gas under our feet than any other nation.
00:55:43.080
The equivalent, they think, of Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest finds in the world.
00:55:50.460
One of his first orders were, we're not going to use it.
00:55:55.780
We could have supplied all of Asia with oil and gas.
00:56:01.920
The negative was politically they didn't think it was good for them.
00:56:05.740
So you don't think that it's environmentally dangerous?
00:56:10.920
So he's, of course, completely right about that.
00:56:18.680
We know these are the things that we could exploit.
00:56:20.500
We could make people's lives much, much better.
00:56:23.580
And it's interesting to hear, you know, Rogan, it's interesting.
00:56:32.560
To remind you, he endorsed Bernie Sanders for president.
00:56:47.420
And yes, he's maybe moved to the right at some level because of the craziness of the
00:56:51.520
The left has found a way to embrace such radical policy that a lot of people who are kind of
00:56:58.260
in the middle or maybe even on the left are like, yeah, I got to go with this guy.
00:57:01.160
Well, it's made them seem, it's made people like Joe Rogan seem conservative.
00:57:07.700
It's made people like Bill Maher seem more conservative than he certainly is.
00:57:15.320
I mean, that's how far left they've gone that you've lost people like that on many issues,
00:57:24.920
And so it just, it's stunning what they've done to themselves.
00:57:32.060
And it feels like, because he mentioned TikTok in that earlier clip, it feels like what the
00:57:38.260
left did is they got excited about social media and influencers and TikTok and they just
00:57:46.960
And like there is an effect of TikTok, like it is important, but you know, the fact that
00:57:50.800
Donald Trump gets billions of views is not going to be the reason he wins or loses this
00:57:54.300
And I think the Democrats decided, oh, well, we're going to be big in that world.
00:58:00.720
We're going to hire the people who know that world.
00:58:03.160
And they hired 23 year old social media directors to, you know, wind up dealing with all their
00:58:12.800
And so now they just sound insane to most people.
00:58:16.880
Like you're, you're, you're, you're hiring the people who are like advocating for, you
00:58:21.320
know, Tide pod, you know, uh, eating and you're putting them in control of your messaging
00:58:26.640
and you're wondering why you're not connecting with the average voter.
00:58:32.780
Like when you're talking about people who are like faking Tourette's syndrome for, for
00:58:36.660
views and, you know, we're embracing the radical sort of trans ideology.
00:58:42.080
Boys can just become girls whenever they feel like it just by saying it.
00:58:45.840
Well, when those people are the people, not only are you looking to, but also hiring is
00:58:50.540
the people who are working for these campaigns now.
00:58:52.800
And when you go into a meeting and everyone around you thinks you are a hate monger, if
00:58:58.900
you bring up that, you can't just change genders by words, like you wind up backing off or just
00:59:07.060
even if you think, because, you know, there's an argument for Harris that would just be like,
00:59:10.700
Hey, like, why don't we just come out and just take on the crazy left?
00:59:13.420
And people would think we're more moderate and we'd probably win, but she can't do that.
00:59:21.400
But also, I think she has enough lust for power that she'd consider a move like that.
00:59:26.360
But there's so many people around her that would probably like leave the administration
00:59:30.760
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today on the Glenn Beck Program.
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He discussed, did Donald Trump, discussed with Joe Rogan tariffs.
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Did you just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes and replacing it with tariffs?
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Our country was the richest in the, relatively, in the 1880s and 1890s.
01:01:27.940
A president who was assassinated named McKinley.
01:01:38.180
We will not allow the enemy to come in and take our jobs and take our factories and take our workers and take our families unless they pay a big price.
01:01:53.800
And then around in the early 1900s, they switched over stupidly to, frankly, an income tax.
01:02:00.920
Because countries were putting a lot of pressure on America.
01:02:04.840
You know, they, believe me, they control our politicians.
01:02:07.760
You know, if you could replace the income tax with tariffs, I might be in favor of tariffs.
01:02:18.740
As you're indicating as well, I'm not a tariff guy.
01:02:22.340
I don't think they're good policy in most circumstances.
01:02:25.120
That being said, the size of the government you would need to have to have a government supported only by tariffs sounds great.
01:02:35.040
And it's a government we used to have at one point.
01:02:45.720
And I, of course, support that form of government.
01:02:49.220
You are cutting a lot to get to that point, which I am fine with.
01:02:52.840
And look, if you got to a world where there was no income tax and the government was that small, I think that would be an improvement.
01:03:01.360
But getting rid of the IRS is going to be a real.
01:03:05.900
I mean, you think, though, if anyone can do it and probably Donald Trump in conjunction with Elon Musk, like those two working together on a problem like that is exciting to me.
01:03:15.480
I got to say, it is as someone, you know, we've talked a lot about Elon Musk over the years.
01:03:19.860
You know, I read multiple biographies of the guy.
01:03:30.300
When it comes to slicing things down to what is needed.
01:03:34.260
And did you see that they asked him how much he thinks he could cut?
01:03:37.520
And he actually said, I should be able to do two trillion dollars.
01:03:45.820
Nobody has suggested you could trim two trillion dollars.
01:03:49.560
I mean, they call it radical when you say, well, we're only going to increase the budget by one percent a year.
01:03:56.580
When the Tea Party, one of the big things that the Tea Party succeeded in was getting that.
01:04:04.980
But it was basically saying, like, look, if we can't come up with a budget, if we don't hit these guidelines, then we're going to cut across the board evenly by whatever percentage it was.
01:04:14.520
This was treated as if it was like, of course, like it was Hitler, as if Hitler cut budgets.
01:04:20.240
Hitler not known for cutting budgets or deregulating all that much.
01:04:24.040
But like that was it was supposedly this terrible thing that was, you know, doing horrible things for the country.
01:04:32.080
But imagine a two trillion dollar cut, what they would say about that.
01:04:35.820
Look, you're going to pay the price for being called Hitler anyway.
01:04:38.560
You might as well actually come up with conservative policies to go along with it.
01:04:43.820
You know, I mean, if you're going to be called these terrible names that you don't care about women and you don't care about just you might as well just at least get low taxes.
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We're obviously not going to get to all of that.
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What happened in this interview that you do not want told?
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Was there a talk of a Nazi rally in it somewhere?
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But they did talk about making America healthy.
01:07:04.060
First of all, I love this idea of you teaming up with Robert Kennedy.
01:07:07.520
And I love this make America healthy again idea because there are chemicals and ingredients that are in our food that are illegal in other countries because they've been shown to be toxic.
01:07:19.480
There's pesticides and herbicides and there's a lot of s*** that's been sprayed on our food that really is unnecessary.
01:07:26.680
And there's a lot of health consequences that people are suffering from a lot of these things.
01:07:33.620
Just because I had a feeling you'd be asking me.
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And he told me that more than 70% of young men are ineligible for the military because of their health.
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So here's the life expectancy versus health expenditure.
01:08:18.680
But RFK is going to be very – you know, I think he's a great guy.
01:08:25.120
And are you guys – are you completely committed to have him a part of your administration?
01:08:29.460
But the only thing I want to be a little careful about with him is the environment.
01:08:39.240
So I'm going to sort of keep him out of a little – I said, focus on health.
01:08:43.020
Just – you can do whatever you want, but I've got to be a little bit careful with the liquid gold, you know?
01:08:52.940
There's a lot to comment on that, and some of it will be great to talk about next year.
01:08:57.480
But the part – the environmental part, please.
01:09:06.060
Both of those guys keep them away from the environment stuff.
01:09:08.860
I mean, we're going to Mars because he's concerned that we're killing this planet.
01:09:14.200
Now, again, Elon Musk, I think, has come some distance.
01:09:18.740
He's even saying, like, we do need oil and gas for now until we get to some transition.
01:09:24.160
But I will – you know, please keep RFK Jr. away from me.
01:09:31.060
And, you know, look, there's plenty to – I don't agree with a lot that RFK Jr. says.
01:09:35.340
But what I will say is Trump has the – if you happen to be concerned, maybe like I am
01:09:41.820
about some of RFK Jr.'s beliefs, the good thing about it is Trump can kind of just tell
01:09:48.240
I – my personal preference is that he unfortunately loses his number on November 6th.
01:09:55.400
But, you know, because sometimes cell phones, they just delete phone numbers, but it's terrible.
01:10:01.280
But that being said, if RFK Jr. comes into the administration and starts doing crazy
01:10:08.240
There's no – you can just let him go whenever – at any point.
01:10:11.900
If he decides to come in and he does things that are consistent with conservative values,
01:10:18.100
I don't know what – look, he says he's had a transformation.
01:10:21.900
If he – if that transformation comes in his actions, then he might be a very valuable
01:10:33.640
The problem is that RFK Jr. has duped a lot of people into thinking that he's now a conservative.
01:10:42.140
He is more aligned with conservatives on a couple issues, but mostly the guy's a flaming
01:10:49.960
And look, if you can limit him to things that he's good on, then fine.
01:10:55.140
I think, you know, look, Tulsi Gabbard was running Bernie Sanders' campaign in Hawaii.
01:11:03.260
And like you can find things with – Gabbard, I think, is a much more serious individual
01:11:07.980
Like I – but you can find things, I think, where you can really – you know, Tulsi Gabbard
01:11:15.240
I think a lot of people are, you know, more into some of his views than I am these days.
01:11:20.540
But that being said, I do think he's helped Donald Trump message two people like Joe Rogan
01:11:26.920
and connect with that audience particularly well.
01:11:32.100
Didn't Rogan actually endorse him for president before he got out of the race?
01:11:37.960
I think it was like that's – you know, I think he said there's a lot to like about
01:11:42.060
He didn't fully – it's funny, when he said that, though, Trump lit him up.
01:11:48.400
Because he – Trump was like, ah, Joe Rogan's an idiot.
01:11:50.840
And I was like, again, this is just what Trump does.
01:11:54.340
But it's good to see – I thought it was a really important thing.
01:11:58.620
You know, this campaign strategy by the Trump campaign, I think, has been very successful.
01:12:04.860
Putting Trump in these types of situations where it's not like he's talking to Dana Bash.
01:12:13.720
And he's going to try to fact check him every time he makes a generalization.
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He doesn't mind being asked about anything, even when it's not about politics.
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Everything about her is to avoid the fact – the campaign has done everything they can
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to try to avoid the fact that she's not likable.
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So Rogan also asked him about something that I'm really interested in and I'd like to see happen,
01:12:57.340
I'd love to see what they really know about that, that has been kept from us for 60 years.
01:13:06.320
What I want to talk to you about is the JFK files.
01:13:10.140
And one of the things that you said was that if they showed you what they showed me,
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this is your quote, you wouldn't want people to know it either.
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But I was asked by some people not to open them.
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There's a Martin Luther King file, too, by the way, that they'd like to see.
01:13:55.540
So they called me – a lot of good people called me.
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People that I – you know, that you would find reasonable people.
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So I said, well, we'll close it for another time.
01:14:09.960
Why didn't you open it up the first time, though?
01:14:17.380
And there could be some national security reason that for – you know, that I don't have to necessarily know about.
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But some very good, talented people asked me not to do it.
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I opened it up, and then they said, would it be possible for us to do that a different day?
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I'm going to do it immediately, almost immediately upon entering office.
01:14:51.460
Well, the thing – when people look at it from the outside, and you sort of imagine what could be a reason why they would not release those files, it would be there's people that were implicated in the assassination.
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Well, when there are living people, you generally tend not to want to do it.
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Living people that formerly worked for the government.
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For the government and living people that were somehow involved in it.
01:15:21.580
He doesn't mean involved in the shooting, right?
01:15:27.540
I mean, whoever's involved that is at fault here should be exposed.
01:15:38.120
He's not like, hey, people who are actually responsible for the cover-up of the assassination, we don't want them to have a tough day.
01:15:45.400
Maybe what he's getting at there is, like, people who, you know, were part of the investigation that came to the opposite conclusion might wind up getting, you know, crap from people who believe the conspiracy.
01:15:58.880
Yeah, innocent people who were compromised in some way, I don't know how you would, how they would be, but –
01:16:06.600
Yeah, like, but I mean, you see this a lot with, you know, conspiracy theorists have had a way over the years of occasionally targeting minor figures and blowing up their roles into big conspiracies.
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I mean, this has happened, you know, the left would argue that it happened with some of these election officials, for example.
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You know, random people who were working at polls and they got their name mentioned.
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And, you know, again, whether you believe this or not is not really the point here.
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The point is that if these names get out there and they didn't do anything, they might wind up suffering consequences that they don't deserve.
01:16:41.020
So that could be an argument, like an FBI official that actually –
01:16:44.540
What you would do, though, in that case is redact those names, right?
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Addresses, phone numbers, names of people who weren't involved in anything nefarious, you just redact those names.
01:16:57.860
And it's tough because we don't know what's in the files, so we can't –
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I mean, I don't think Donald Trump is in the business of hiding and a cover-up of the FBI who –
01:17:12.560
A lot of these, you know, these organizations he doesn't even like.
01:17:16.760
So I don't think he would have any real motivation unless someone convinced him,
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hey, like, you know, this person who is actually a good guy is going to get bad effects out of this.
01:17:27.400
But the way he phrased it, it made it sound like, hey –
01:17:32.160
You know, we don't want the guy who pulled the trigger to have a – you know, to be harassed.
01:17:39.880
Yeah, he just kind of worded that kind of in a funny way, you know.
01:17:43.660
So on the other hand, Kamala's camp was asked about her doing Joe Rogan.
01:17:53.140
Was there a Rogan invite to the vice president that was turned down?
01:17:56.500
Is it something you would consider doing given the size of that audience and given that a lot of the folks that Trump seems to be targeting might be listening to that?
01:18:08.280
I think that the vice president's happy to go anywhere and any place to talk to a broad segment of the country.
01:18:13.500
We talked with Rogan and his team about the podcast.
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Unfortunately, it isn't going to work out right now.
01:18:20.080
Because of the scheduling of this period of the campaign.
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Actually, it wasn't in the way because it's in the same state.
01:18:36.940
So the whole negotiation was based around, hey, we're going to be in Texas anyway.
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And at least the reporting behind this, Pat, is that she demanded there would be a list of topics that would be off limits.
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My guess is, hey, my husband's been hitting women is one of those topics.
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But the reporting is indicating that she wanted a list of things that were off limits.
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And unlike Trump, who, by the way, has plenty of stuff, right?
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Imagine if he started asking about, like, you know, past wives and all that stuff.
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Like, he's comfortable talking about those things in his life.
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And she wants to hide things like her husband knocking up the nanny, her husband hitting women.
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Me too does not apply, apparently, to good old Dougie.
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And that's why the Rogan camp was like, well, we're not going to do it if you're going to make rules.
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But we're not going to do it if you're going to give us all these rules.
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She's not going to be doing Joe Rogan because she's incapable of doing Joe Rogan or really any interview where you would be asked anything reasonably difficult.
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To be clear here, Pat, a lot of people are criticizing Kamala Harris's campaign for this decision.
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Again, I want her to because I want her to lose.
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If she goes on that podcast, it's going to be a catastrophe for her.
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She's going to be sitting there for two hours answering questions she does not want to answer.
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Not only about her husband who might be a major Me Too violation, but also like all of her policies.
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He'll sit there and just list them and make it as uncomfortable as possible.
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She absolutely should not do that interview unless you want her to lose, which I do.
01:22:45.200
Well, it's incredible that she has literally changed every policy position she ever had before for this particular campaign.
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So whether it's being against fracking, she wants a ban on fracking to now she's for fracking.
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Are you going to confiscate guns and have a mandatory buyback?
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She's not going to eliminate private health insurance, which she once advocated.
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She's not going to decriminalize border crossings.
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She's not going to have federal job guarantees.
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Inflation is much higher than it was under Trump.
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I mean, what could you possibly answer that is acceptable?
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And that's why she only has to go on CNN and MSNBC.
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Have you seen the video of the Kamala supporter screaming in the face of the toddler?
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I read a story that mentioned it and described it, and it sounded very disturbing.
01:27:49.460
You know, you just got to scream in their faces.
01:27:52.400
You know, that's a totally appropriate response for a sane individual.
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To scream in the face of a two or three year old.
01:28:01.940
Here's one of Kamala's supporters making perfect sense.
01:28:20.960
A black woman just pulls this white woman away from the toddler and tells her to move on, essentially.
01:28:30.420
We should note it may very well be another Kamala supporter.
01:28:34.860
There is somebody who's sane and steps in and tries to.
01:28:38.800
Whether a Trump supporter or a Kamala supporter, it was somebody who was sane and pulled her away from the toddler because she didn't like the toddler being there.
01:28:52.900
I thought she said something to the effect of, I don't give a something if your dad is a, like, said something like that.
01:29:00.960
Like, seemingly like yelling at the kid for her dad.
01:29:11.520
Is it just social media showing us the worst people in the world every single day?
01:29:16.720
Because, I mean, I will say I was out all weekend talking to people, you know, my daughter had a softball tournament.
01:29:27.440
Like, I talked to a million different parents and they all seem kind of normal and cool.
01:29:31.720
And, like, you know, they don't seem like that.
01:29:35.780
Kamala Harris is going to win probably 45% of the vote in Texas.
01:29:39.340
Like, some of them had to be Kamala supporters.
01:29:53.100
And it's to the point where you start wondering about humanity.
01:29:57.960
Are we at this point where people are screaming in the face of toddlers because their parents are at a rally of some kind from somebody that they don't agree with?
01:30:11.240
So you're going to yell at the toddler rather than the adult human being behind the toddler.
01:30:18.020
And, Pat, maybe an option is to not yell at either of them.
01:30:28.100
Hey, you know, I don't agree with your tax policies.
01:30:37.320
Did you see the Dave Portnoy video that he put out?
01:30:46.740
Like, he, like, really likes Taylor Swift's music.
01:30:57.020
And he put out a video basically saying, you know, people are like, oh, I can't believe
01:31:05.900
And his answer to that was like, I'm never going to not like someone because of who they
01:31:12.160
Like, I just, I like people based on who they are.
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And it came off almost as, like, radical in this world.
01:31:20.700
Like, this is some sort of shocking development that people can't understand.
01:31:28.380
I mean, look, I really don't like Kamala Harris.
01:31:34.480
The amount of distaste I have for Tim Walls is impossible to measure.
01:31:45.200
I find him far more irritating than her for whatever reason.
01:32:38.960
And, like, I could say the same thing about Kamala Harris.
01:32:48.100
But, like, there's something about him that's special.
01:32:53.140
He's like, in real life, that annoying sitcom dad.
01:32:57.960
That dad that, like, the stupid father who messes everything up and, like, the liberal
01:33:05.900
But, like, typically, it's more of a, like, traditional dad who just...
01:33:20.960
And then at the end of the episode, he goes, I was wrong.
01:33:32.240
Like, immediately, what I think you take out of Tim Walls is, oh, this is fake.
01:33:39.380
And you get it from the second you look at him.
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It's already determined before you even start down the road.
01:33:58.980
We'll be looked back at history as one of the dumbest decisions
01:34:07.380
The only thing he brought to the table was calling J.D. Vance weird,
01:34:10.140
which was such a failure that they had to abandon it completely.
01:34:13.800
And it was a failure because he's the one who's so weird.
01:34:21.360
It's such a great part with Kamala because if she had spent any time
01:34:26.820
dealing with actual normal people in the middle of the country,
01:34:30.120
she would immediately have known this was nonsense.
01:34:39.680
He is the vision of what she thinks people in the middle of the country are like.
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Maybe these idiots, racists in the middle of the country will like this guy.
01:34:51.420
And it is if she may still very well win this race.
01:34:55.840
We'll give you a Pulsecast update here in a minute.
01:35:02.380
And if she loses particularly, and I almost want it to happen this way,
01:35:07.480
I want her to lose Pennsylvania by like a point.
01:35:15.460
Now, our whole country might be lit on fire, but I just want it to be centrally sent to her,
01:35:20.540
whatever's left of her frontal cortex, that the reason she lost was this guy.
01:35:30.020
It probably would have moved the Pulse in Pennsylvania by a point.
01:35:34.240
And it's just incomprehensible that she would pick this idiot to be her running mate.
01:35:45.180
When they were trying to sell the whole, he's a coach thing.
01:35:47.820
And so I thought, okay, he was a high school head football coach?
01:35:57.040
He was like the water boy of the football team.
01:36:00.500
No, well, I think, well, there was rumors that he was the defensive coordinator,
01:36:05.880
I don't know how good the defense was or whatever.
01:36:07.660
But they made it out like he was the coach of the team.
01:36:12.960
Yeah, and he just hopped on for like a season or whatever, right?
01:36:19.520
Anyone, any normal person who deals with normal people in the middle of the country
01:36:24.680
would have seen Tim Walls immediately and be like, oh, good God, no.
01:36:31.520
But when you got a 23-year-old TikTok star as one of your main advisors.
01:36:43.320
Anyway, that was a total, we're going off topic.
01:36:55.740
She's like, you know, my wife really likes her, really likes him.
01:37:11.120
There are a hundred different people that fit the same profile as Tim Walls that I've interacted
01:37:28.280
It's like what a L.A. Hollywood screenwriter thinks a dad in Minnesota is like.
01:37:39.280
He had the giblets to say that Elon Musk skipped out on stage and was like.
01:37:56.740
And as Glenn pointed out, you know, there was a period in time where like if you mock
01:38:01.580
the social activities of someone with Asperger's, that might be looked down upon.
01:38:08.740
Maybe that wouldn't be the thing that you would be leading with.
01:38:22.360
Literally the only thing I like about Tim Walls is his son.
01:38:49.280
But there's part of me that likes the fact that his dad is like ruining the NBA to get
01:38:59.540
You know, there's part of me that's like that like makes it relate.
01:39:02.840
I would love to like if I grow up in my life, you know, as I get older and like I'm working
01:39:09.260
That'll be a great goal for my life to have my son and my daughter around to be able to
01:39:14.420
Like I, I get all that, but like I don't get the Tim Walls thing at all.
01:39:19.760
It's so, it's just so inertly and obviously terrible.
01:39:25.520
And like the fact that they had, I watched a speech of, I was going through the candidates
01:39:31.440
And I was doing my, you know, you could look at the odds on paper, right?
01:39:34.940
And on paper, a guy like the Senator from Arizona, the astronaut guy, Kelly, Mark Kelly
01:39:43.220
I was worried about that pick and I was like, well, let me do my, you know, like we were
01:39:47.860
talking about football off the air as we usually do.
01:39:50.240
And you know, you do, you can look at stats and you get an impression, but you also got
01:39:55.160
So I was doing the film work on the VP race and the three mentioned are Kelly, Shapiro
01:40:01.960
And so I'm going back and I'm watching old interviews.
01:40:13.940
Like they're, they're not, they're going to look at this, their video and they're not
01:40:17.980
Kelly, I thought would be the pick because he, he solved a lot of issues for Kamala Harris.
01:40:22.880
Like, you know, patriotic and, you know, he could bring the gun issue into the conversation
01:40:27.520
really easily with what happened to his wife, especially after Trump just got shot.
01:40:31.480
People like astronauts, people like astronauts, people like military guys.
01:40:34.700
Like there's a lot there on paper, but watching him in the debate, he's just, he's not good
01:40:38.960
I mean, like he would, his biggest moment would be bad because he was not good at that debate.
01:40:43.420
He seemed to be the guy that Obama favored too.
01:40:46.540
But I mean, watching, doing the film work, you realize he's bad.
01:40:49.240
I watched a conversation with, with Josh Shapiro.
01:40:52.000
Shapiro did at a press conference after the shooting, which happened in his state.
01:41:01.500
He was, he wasn't like, well, maybe he didn't get, maybe that was glass that hit him.
01:41:07.780
He came off as really worried about it, was horrified by it.
01:41:15.200
I came out of all that and was like, hold, I didn't even consider walls as a possibility
01:41:20.560
I was like, there's no way they're going to pick this buffoon.
01:41:22.240
But I was nervous about Shapiro, like Shapiro, and I will be nervous about him in 2028.
01:41:30.220
There could be more to it, but like on the surface, worrisome.
01:41:44.120
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Um, you know, you know, you're going, you probably don't enjoy it.
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You enjoy going through your day, feeling like a zombie.
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If you're not one though, and it's hard sometimes when you're not getting enough sleep at night.
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Uh, you know, we've all fought that battle at times with either it's an insomnia or just,
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And show you that moment that was so troublesome to so many of us when she got booed at her own
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So her crowd tries to cover it up with the Kamala, Kamala.
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Next question and go, I guess you're the smaller rally down the street.
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There's just a guy that looks like a mini Tucker Carlson behind it.
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So they keep and they keep booing because they're pissed that she didn't perform as they were
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These are Kamala supporters who came to the rally, apparently to see Beyonce sing.
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Like she, she's like, what is the calculated facial expression I need for this moment?
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There's another guy that looks like Donald Trump Jr. behind her.
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This is worse than I had imagined it from the stories I had read about it.
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And they did the same thing with Lizzo a few weeks ago.
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Last week or the week before, and it was the same thing, and she didn't perform either.
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But that's how they're getting people at these rallies, and I think they had 2,000 at that
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particular rally, and she did the same thing, that people are going, you should be even
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at a smaller rally down the street, which was 7,000 plus people.
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We're closer to it now, though, than we really have been in decades, maybe ever, and that's
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So we covered the vice presidential candidate from the other side, Tim Walls, but how about
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I mean, I think it's been arguably the best performance by a vice presidential candidate
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He's gone into unfriendly territory over and over and over again, handled it with ease.
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You know, and really this comeback here from Trump when he was down maybe a month ago or
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whatever, we can go through the details on this in a second if you want, but really started
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I was just railing about Walls being horrible, but like him with Vance beating him really
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set off the momentum that has carried Trump into the lead here.
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As bad as Tim Walls is, I think J.D. Vance has been that good.
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And he was in unfriendly territory again over the weekend with Jake Tapper on CNN.
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Ask yourself a basic question about network integrity.
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And so you took the words of unnamed FBI agents and put them on your network as if they were
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A viewer of your network would have believed that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin conspired
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I don't know why you want to talk about the FBI investigation.
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You covered it in a way that gave credence to anonymous sources, accusations.
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But again, can we talk about the issues that Americans care most about?
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I'm talking about things that Donald Trump has said.
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If you have an issue with whether or not he's talking about the economy enough, that's between
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I'm talking about things he has said this week.
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Every single rally that he does, he talks about how he wants to unleash American energy
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He talks about the fact that housing has become unaffordable.
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Kamala Harris and her media allies, and I would put CNN in this category.
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Well, they should watch your network more because you guys seem to care more about
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Donald Trump's past than the future of the American people.
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We're running this campaign on making the American dream affordable.
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I'm specifically asking about how Donald Trump is going to be president in the future
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And then we're being told we're going to pursue economic policies that
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lower the cost of groceries and make life more affordable again.
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He talks about it every single day on the campaign trail, and so do I.
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What you're talking about is an anonymously sourced story or one guy who is a disgruntled
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Where five other people pushed back against him and said that what he said was dishonest.
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So why don't we talk about the policy that's affecting American citizens and not what Donald
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Trump allegedly said, according to one guy who's pissed off because he got fired by Donald
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And, you know, Tapper's, you know, not easy to.
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He's not like, you know, there are certain journalists that's easy to kind of just roll
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I mean, Tapper, I don't think, falls into that category.
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But look, and CNN has obviously been an ally of the Harris-Walls campaign.
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It is true that they would say they get bad coverage from CNN because that's what they
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They're whining about every single call, hoping to get more in the future.
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But everyone knows that CNN has been incredibly helpful to, or at least attempting to be very
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Anderson Cooper was making this point the other day.
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I mean, I've watched enough of this to torture myself.
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Like, there is a difference between CNN and MSNBC.
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That being said, CNN's not that far behind them.
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And the only reason they're not as blatant about it is that I think that there's a part
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of them that almost wants Trump to be elected because he's good for their ratings.
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I mean, they've never had better ratings than when Trump was in office.
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There's definitely people who work there who think that way.
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I don't think it's the people who are on the air or making editorial decisions.
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I think there are business people, though, behind the scenes.
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The salespeople are like, could please just give us Donald Trump?
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I can't sell another one of the same five sponsors over and over again.
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Like, you get Donald Trump in there, the left gets all fired up, lots of people watch, and
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I mean, I think there is a consideration there.
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And they might get their wish because some of the polls are looking pretty good for him.
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I don't know if we have the Pulsecast graphic today, but we can give you the update if we
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Regardless, the update is Donald Trump at a 53.98% chance to win the election.
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This is ahead of Kamala Harris, who is at 46.02%.
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Now, I want to put this in perspective for a minute.
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You can kind of like if you this is, by the way, continuing Donald Trump's rise.
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He has now risen about 10%, more than 10 percentage points from just a month ago.
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Now, remember, this is not like a prediction of how I'm feeling about it or how Pat's feeling
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These are the election models made by data experts.
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All this stuff that we look at to determine where the race is, this is what it's showing.
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Almost all the people who are doing the things that go into this data are mainstream, nonpartisan
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Like they're not a lot of conservative data going into this.
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And if you kind of look at the campaign since Kamala got into the race, there have been four
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That was in August, basically the month of August.
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She came from out of nowhere, obviously was, you know, coming off of Biden's really bad
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poll numbers, but she came from out of nowhere and she took, took the lead, a slight lead.
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Then you have that burst of that bubble, which was the first two weeks of September.
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You have the post-debate bump for Kamala Harris, which is the next two weeks, the last two
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And then the Trump comeback, which has been the entire month of October.
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Of those four phases, the largest move in the entire model of the Pulsecast has been
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It is now the most significant development since Kamala Harris got into the race.
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I think there is some fear from the left that they are like, oh, terrified that, you
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It is, I think the, you know, statistically speaking, the largest move in this race is
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And this Trump comeback is taking him from a 43% chance to win, which is a 14 point percentage
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Now he leads 53 to 47 in a percent chance of win.
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I will add the addendum here that what we're talking about here are still really small differences.
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We're talking about a, basically a borderline toss up race in Kamala's favor turning into
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However, that's significant, but in this race, the biggest moves are still small and within
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the realm of possibility of either candidate winning.
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I mean, 54, 53, 47 or 54, 46 is not a blowout, right?
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You'd still look at that and you'd say, oh gosh, this is going to be close.
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It's just a little bit better than flipping a coin, but that is what the data saying.
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The optimism that you're feeling, there's reason for it, not just beyond, you know, what
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you might hope is happening, but what is actually happening within the mainstream data.
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And I don't know, during the summer, especially late summer, it felt like maybe not, but now
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When you say late summer, you're talking, you're into September there when Kamala's getting
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that bumped and yeah, August, September, and people would ask me and I'd be like, I hope
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I don't feel passionately confident about making any sort of prediction right now.
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And I, you know, with one week left, I suppose I'm not going to get there.
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Um, and it's going to be different than the mainstream media.
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Uh, we're going to have great guests and great analysis as the night goes on.
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But like, I think I will enter that coverage that day without an idea of really what's going
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And I will be surprised at this point that the polling is going to reveal some late surge
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that means, oh, this person's definitely going to win, or I'm really confident in their chances.
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I think we're going to be looking at this going into that last night and thinking, I don't know.
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You know, it feels like Donald Trump's doing well.
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It's hard to imagine the country could be this stupid.
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That's one of those things that I have faith in the country and I have high hopes for the
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And it's like, how, how could a group of people be this dumb?
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It's sort of like, I fall back on that at times.
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And I also fall back on like looking at their flailing late moment strategy here.
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Like, if the stuff they were doing was working, they wouldn't be saying Hitler all the time.
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She wouldn't be, you know, talking about fascism.
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That is not, those are not the actions of a campaign that believes it's ahead.
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They have so much support in the media that, that, you know, you're worried that some Americans
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Oh, I, and I know some Americans are being duped by it.
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The question is, can they get to the high, high enough percentage for them to win?
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I mean, I would say Georgia and Arizona look relatively good for Trump.
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You know, after that though, with the other five swing states, it's not easy to get there.
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The easiest way to think about this is thinking of the swing states, seven swing states in
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So one group, the Sun Belt, you've got Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and North Carolina.
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The easiest way to think about this is Trump wins all of those and picks off one blue wall
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state, which would be Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin.
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Like, he can't blow one of those states or have bad luck without picking off another blue
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Now, he can win all three of the blue wall states.
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And I will be I will not be surprised at all if Donald Trump sweeps all seven of these
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swing states and he and that will it will still be a close election, even if he does
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that, because some of those states will be close and he will have over 300 electoral votes
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But in reality, it still will be, you know, but I would not be surprised at all if he sweeps
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all seven of them or wins six out of the seven of them.
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But, you know, again, she doesn't need she doesn't need to do as well.
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She only needs to pick off a couple of weird states and she can pull this thing off.
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The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times have both decided they're not going to endorse
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a candidate, meaning they're not endorsing Kamala Harris.
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Because there's no consideration that they would endorse Donald Trump.
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I don't like it when my candidate gets endorsed by a newspaper.
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Well, news is the first word of paper of the first part of newspaper.
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And just even if you're you are biased, you give your viewers or lift readers at least
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Like the New York Times wrote an op-ed the other day, I think it was yesterday, that
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said Kamala Harris is the only patriotic choice for president, meaning anyone who votes against
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Now, we Hillary Clinton correctly got some heat for her deplorables thing, but it was
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She was saying like a group of them are like, well, a lot of them are good, but some of them
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They're saying every single Trump voter is unpatriotic.
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And you got a couple of left-leaning newspapers that have refused to.
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The Washington Post and LA Times won't even endorse her.