The Glenn Beck Program - 4⧸20⧸17 - How Glenn & Bill O'Reilly Became Friends... David Limbaugh Joins Glenn

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00:00:07.780 So Maxine Waters says there's something psychologically wrong with Bill O'Reilly.

00:00:13.800 And I don't know if you saw what CNN, they had one of the Fox women on CNN last night

00:00:22.160 that wanted to talk about Bill O'Reilly.

00:00:23.700 And at least in this case, I don't understand it.

00:00:32.320 I don't understand it.

00:00:35.300 I want to tell you today, no, I don't want to tell you anything.

00:00:41.160 I'm going to ask you some questions.

00:00:42.600 We begin there right now.

00:00:53.700 I will be my drum.

00:00:55.960 I have made my choice.

00:00:58.240 We will overcome.

00:01:00.540 Because we are one.

00:01:02.600 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:06.400 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:09.980 Yesterday was a weird day for me because it was like, it was like, you know, Fox Day for

00:01:19.440 me yesterday because I am friends with Bill O'Reilly and had him on my mind and with him

00:01:26.140 leaving.

00:01:27.200 I have a lot to tell you today.

00:01:28.560 Stories I'm going to tell you today about the Bill O'Reilly that I know that I have not

00:01:31.880 shared with you.

00:01:33.720 And I want to share some of the things that they're saying on television and just ask you

00:01:37.640 a few questions.

00:01:38.320 But also Jack, who used to be my audio guy on the floor at Fox, Jack and Oscar and the

00:01:47.700 wee little one Aaron, we had a great relationship.

00:01:55.480 And there were others at Fox that worked on the floor.

00:01:59.920 But the three of us, Jack came yesterday and he's a guy who has worked at Fox forever.

00:02:07.440 And he said, Glenn, you just changed my life.

00:02:11.220 He said, I've, I didn't, I, I, I had no confidence and nobody had ever asked me to, uh, my opinion

00:02:20.120 on a show.

00:02:21.480 And he said, nobody ever included.

00:02:24.420 He said, it's the only show I've ever worked on where I thought we created this show.

00:02:30.440 And I said, cause Jack, we did, we all worked together on it.

00:02:34.400 We did create the show.

00:02:36.620 And so I, I, I want to preface this with, um, a, I'm not dismissing anything that anyone

00:02:45.040 says.

00:02:45.820 Um, you know, every time somebody makes a, uh, somebody makes a, uh, a charge against

00:02:53.020 somebody, you need to look into it and you need to figure out if it's true or not.

00:02:59.040 But I am really concerned that we're living in a world where, um, where you can pretty much

00:03:07.420 say anything about anyone.

00:03:08.800 And if they're on the wrong side of things, you can destroy them.

00:03:16.920 But I am, I care about, I care about the, the crew.

00:03:22.600 I care about the people who are on the floor.

00:03:24.780 I don't run a company.

00:03:27.140 Um, and I've just made a, of several points and I'm going to, um, unfortunately do it again,

00:03:36.360 um, to the talent.

00:03:38.560 I have done several meetings with talent and with the whole company where I have said,

00:03:45.060 I don't care who you are.

00:03:47.240 If you treat talent poorly, or not talent, if you treat the floor, you as talent, treat

00:03:55.320 the floor people poorly, you have no place here.

00:03:59.720 Cause you can treat Jeffy poorly.

00:04:01.280 That's fine.

00:04:01.700 Yeah.

00:04:02.020 No, that's fine.

00:04:02.640 Okay.

00:04:02.860 Yeah.

00:04:03.400 We're not treating him poorly.

00:04:04.280 We're treating him as, we're treating him better than the rest of his life.

00:04:07.020 Yes.

00:04:07.220 I mean, this is a, you know, yes, it's a slave ship, but it's the best slave ship he's ever

00:04:13.080 been on.

00:04:13.720 So that's a different story.

00:04:15.320 Um, and we try to do the right things.

00:04:17.980 So I don't excuse people's behavior.

00:04:20.680 However, I want to tell you a couple of things.

00:04:22.960 Can we start with the CNN clip from Anderson Cooper last night?

00:04:27.500 Do you have that, Pat?

00:04:28.660 Listen to this.

00:04:29.400 Now, this is a woman who worked at Fox.

00:04:31.060 Listen.

00:04:31.280 Well, I mean, I think that it's, it's stunning because Bill O'Reilly was Fox news.

00:04:36.760 He had so much power there and it was sort of unthinkable that he would ever leave there

00:04:40.740 except on his own terms.

00:04:41.980 And I did his show regularly, um, for a long time.

00:04:45.300 And, you know, I, I was thinking about an incident that had happened early on in my career

00:04:49.740 there where I was on air actually with Margaret Hoover, who's at CNN now on a regular segment.

00:04:54.740 We were on every Monday and he got Margaret's name wrong and Margaret said, Hey, get my name

00:04:58.800 right.

00:04:59.120 And he said, Oh, I'm sorry.

00:05:00.780 There's a lot of blondes in this operation.

00:05:02.400 I can't keep you all straight.

00:05:03.740 Megyn Kelly's coming up, starts throwing all these blonde names.

00:05:06.240 Um, and then at the end of the segment says, thank you for your blondness to both of us.

00:05:11.160 So I went to his executive producer and I said, um, he needs to apologize and he needs

00:05:16.060 to never do that again.

00:05:17.280 Stop.

00:05:17.620 Um, or I'm not.

00:05:18.360 Stop.

00:05:21.520 Really?

00:05:23.000 Is that sexual discrimination?

00:05:24.960 Really?

00:05:25.560 Is that something really?

00:05:27.540 Is that who we are?

00:05:29.060 Is that who we are?

00:05:30.180 If, if, if the role was reversed and he, and she would have said, you know, we've got an,

00:05:37.320 we got a lot of old white anchors here and I can't keep all you guys straight.

00:05:44.220 Am I going to say something?

00:05:45.540 Am I, as an employer going to say anything other than he's sensitive about that?

00:05:52.040 You shouldn't do that around him if you want to get along, but it's not a problem.

00:05:56.960 Do we have such thin skin that you can't make a blonde joke or an old joke or any joke?

00:06:04.620 Especially when it's on air.

00:06:05.680 And you're on air and all he's trying to do is be funny to get out of an awkward situation

00:06:11.700 to where I didn't remember your name.

00:06:14.340 I mean, certainly, I would, I would guess many anchors have made jokes about, I don't

00:06:19.620 know, maybe Donald Trump's hair.

00:06:22.020 Has there been jokes about Donald Trump's hair made by kids?

00:06:24.540 I mean, this is craziness.

00:06:25.720 Sure.

00:06:25.920 Okay, so go on, now listen to the rest.

00:06:27.820 I'm not doing his show anymore.

00:06:29.100 And I was told basically, well, you know, Bill, there's nothing we can do about it.

00:06:32.500 He's a throwback.

00:06:33.260 He's kind of an Archie Bunker.

00:06:34.380 And I said, well, if you mean he's a Neanderthal, then we're on the same page.

00:06:38.660 He can never do that again.

00:06:39.740 I'm a political analyst here.

00:06:41.060 Stop.

00:06:42.940 Stop.

00:06:45.220 Really?

00:06:46.540 You're a Neanderthal for making a blonde joke?

00:06:50.040 Now, I know some people may not like blonde jokes.

00:06:54.360 I know my wife is blonde.

00:06:57.160 And she was, you know, she was always told, hey, you're pretty.

00:07:02.000 Don't worry about stuff.

00:07:03.380 You don't have to worry about being smart.

00:07:05.400 I get it.

00:07:07.480 That's not what Bill O'Reilly was doing.

00:07:10.980 Please.

00:07:12.660 Okay.

00:07:13.540 Continue on.

00:07:14.680 Went to Bill, came back, said, no, he's not going to apologize.

00:07:16.980 So then I went to my, I was called into my boss's office.

00:07:20.220 I was told, what can we do?

00:07:22.160 It's Bill.

00:07:22.660 There's nothing we can do.

00:07:24.340 You know, we're sorry this happened to you, but there's nothing we can do.

00:07:27.180 I complained to Roger Ailes.

00:07:28.440 I was told the same exact thing.

00:07:30.800 There's nothing we can do.

00:07:31.560 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:07:32.520 So now she has gone up the food chain.

00:07:35.340 She's gone to Bill's boss.

00:07:37.380 She's gone to her boss.

00:07:39.260 Now she takes it all the way to the chairman of the board.

00:07:43.920 A blonde joke.

00:07:45.720 For thanks for your blondness.

00:07:47.680 Now listen to this.

00:07:49.100 Bill, he's a jerk.

00:07:50.600 Nobody likes him.

00:07:52.260 And then Roger said, you know, Bill, he likes to put up dirty pictures and ask pretty girls

00:07:56.940 to talk about them.

00:07:58.500 Stop.

00:08:01.120 Now, gee, where's the sexual harassment happening here?

00:08:04.700 It's not thanks for your blondness on air.

00:08:10.540 That's not sexual harassment, is it?

00:08:12.800 Sexual harassment here.

00:08:14.220 And where is Bill's reputation?

00:08:15.420 Roger.

00:08:15.980 Where is Bill's reputation being smeared here now?

00:08:19.720 By Roger Ailes.

00:08:20.720 By Roger Ailes.

00:08:21.400 Now, I'm going to tell you a story that I've not told before about what it's like to work

00:08:29.460 at Fox News.

00:08:32.320 But let me start with this.

00:08:34.840 I may be wrong, but I don't think I am.

00:08:37.920 And this is something that all of us have soul searched on because we all like Bill.

00:08:41.920 We worked side by side with Bill.

00:08:43.840 I toured with Bill.

00:08:45.620 If you're going to ever see a guy be lewd and crude, you're going to see it while they're

00:08:53.520 on the road.

00:08:55.140 And we went on the road.

00:08:57.960 And believe me, we have seen lewd and crude behavior from people on the road who are traveling

00:09:04.260 with us, Bill O'Reilly was buttoned up.

00:09:09.180 And he not only had opportunity with some of the women that were touring with us, I think

00:09:16.100 you also have motive.

00:09:19.020 Never.

00:09:19.920 Never once.

00:09:21.680 In fact, we all believe the opposite.

00:09:25.220 Now, that doesn't make our experience accurate.

00:09:27.900 It just makes it our experience.

00:09:29.500 So I'm not dismissing if somebody out there is like, no, this happened to me.

00:09:33.880 Great.

00:09:34.580 I don't know about it.

00:09:36.620 And that's what should be, should have been what was discussed if it was real on CNN,

00:09:42.820 not a blonde joke.

00:09:44.820 Now, I'm going to take a quick break and I'm going to come back and I'm going to tell you

00:09:49.340 first what I believe is true about Bill O'Reilly and this stuff and then why this is happening.

00:10:01.040 And that is evidence to me of what happened to Bill O'Reilly.

00:10:08.680 And it is.

00:10:10.020 It's not just wrong.

00:10:12.100 If I'm right on this, it's dangerous.

00:10:15.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:10:32.400 All right.

00:10:33.700 So we're talking about this audio about Kirsten Powers, who is complaining that Bill O'Reilly

00:10:38.560 pointed out the fact that there are a lot of blondes that work at Fox News.

00:10:44.000 And and that was her experience with Bill O'Reilly, the nightmare that he was a Neanderthal and and said,

00:10:52.640 here's so many blondes here, I sometimes lose track and I can't keep you all straight.

00:10:57.220 She wanted something done.

00:10:58.880 He needed to apologize, needed to make sure that that never happened again.

00:11:02.400 Blah, blah, blah.

00:11:03.260 This this woman is, you know, she's a liberal.

00:11:06.840 She dated Anthony Weiner.

00:11:10.600 And her I mean, how you could have spent two minutes with Anthony Weiner if you're if you're

00:11:15.500 line is, is that is beyond me.

00:11:18.700 But so the trouble comes as she is telling the story.

00:11:24.240 She said, so I went to Roger Ailes.

00:11:26.300 And what did Roger Ailes say, Stu?

00:11:29.300 Yeah.

00:11:29.960 Well, nobody likes Bill.

00:11:31.140 Nobody likes Bill.

00:11:31.960 He likes to put up pin up, you know, pictures of hot women.

00:11:35.120 He likes to talk dirty to hot women.

00:11:37.620 Where does that come from?

00:11:38.740 Where does the talk dirty come from?

00:11:40.700 I mean, well, I mean, it's coming from Roger Ailes here.

00:11:43.060 Here.

00:11:43.580 But what is that?

00:11:44.480 What is that old an old story that that had been reported?

00:11:47.580 OK, now this is the big thing.

00:11:49.840 This is the one that everybody says, well, he paid off.

00:11:52.560 OK.

00:11:54.140 Here he here he is.

00:11:55.520 And it seems as though.

00:11:59.700 This was a consensual relationship, at least at one point.

00:12:04.780 Bill thought that they were.

00:12:07.060 This is what it seems.

00:12:08.160 I don't know if this is true, but it's not talked to Bill about this.

00:12:11.680 We have not talked to Bill.

00:12:12.440 You're just saying, basing this on the reporting.

00:12:14.460 Basing this on the reporting.

00:12:15.700 I have not talked to Bill.

00:12:16.800 And I mean, you know, it's like, hey, Bill.

00:12:19.140 So tell me about that lawsuit.

00:12:20.900 No.

00:12:22.200 But this is this is my theory on on Bill.

00:12:26.900 Consensual.

00:12:27.300 And at some point, he didn't know or he was just like, I'm just kidding.

00:12:33.300 Whatever.

00:12:33.660 But she taped really inappropriate things on the phone.

00:12:38.400 At some point, she knew I can make a killing here.

00:12:43.760 And so she demanded, I think the word was 60 million dollars to keep those tapes out of the public.

00:12:53.500 Do you want your tapes or your emails to your wife or your husband?

00:12:59.700 Do you want bedroom talk of yours out into the public?

00:13:04.020 Because I wouldn't.

00:13:05.840 Would you, Stu?

00:13:07.040 Would you?

00:13:07.300 Well, especially to my husband.

00:13:08.340 I would say no to that.

00:13:09.760 To your wife or husband.

00:13:10.800 Would it would.

00:13:11.940 OK.

00:13:12.320 Nobody wants that.

00:13:13.580 OK.

00:13:14.100 That's not something that Bill O'Reilly or anybody wants.

00:13:18.360 Well, I have it.

00:13:20.900 OK.

00:13:22.420 Settle a lawsuit.

00:13:24.720 Now, I think that I could be wrong.

00:13:28.620 But the way I've read that story and I've looked at it, you know, for what, 15 years, that story came out 15 years ago.

00:13:36.400 10, 15.

00:13:37.300 And so I haven't thought about that story since then.

00:13:40.640 But if you hear what she's saying here, what did Roger Ailes do?

00:13:46.720 Roger Ailes brought that story up.

00:13:50.060 And her sexual smear, the reason why this is on CNN with the headline, look at what she said, Roger Ailes said about Bill, comes from that one story.

00:14:05.580 Now, why is that important?

00:14:07.040 Let me share a story with you on what I know about working at Fox under Roger Ailes.

00:14:17.880 Roger Ailes was a genius.

00:14:21.880 Sheer genius.

00:14:23.260 I think there was a good side of Roger Ailes.

00:14:26.840 I think the dark side of Roger Ailes won.

00:14:29.600 But I think there was a really good side of Roger Ailes.

00:14:31.940 And I think he was torn apart at the end, towards the end of his life, thinking what he could have done if he would have used his power for good as opposed to evil.

00:14:40.600 But at some point in his life, he became a dirty old man.

00:14:47.900 And one of the things that he did at Fox, and I know it firsthand, is he would sabotage relationships.

00:15:00.660 Remember how I have said in the past that Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and I, we didn't get along?

00:15:06.200 And he was saying, well, me personally, I believe that all came from Roger Ailes.

00:15:13.700 And I know another one who was involved, who was also feeding that stuff, but they were being fed by Roger Ailes.

00:15:22.200 Roger liked to be the kingpin, and he was the master manipulator of everybody's relationship.

00:15:30.620 And he liked his shows and his talent not liking each other, because he knew, if I keep them pitted against each other,

00:15:40.120 A, they'll compete harder to beat that son of a bitch, and they would never join forces.

00:15:46.840 If they joined forces, then we're in trouble.

00:15:51.000 I know this firsthand because Bill O'Reilly heard an argument in the hallway at Fox.

00:15:58.480 I don't know if I've told this story before on the air.

00:16:01.320 Have I?

00:16:02.600 I think so.

00:16:03.120 I heard a story, heard an argument in the hallway about ACORN.

00:16:08.340 And remember when we found that New Orleans was the head, there was something really bad,

00:16:13.320 and it had to do with Van Jones and ACORN and SEIU?

00:16:18.560 Well, I didn't have the money to go investigate that, but Bill O'Reilly's team did.

00:16:22.920 Bill O'Reilly saw that story and was like, got to get on that.

00:16:26.480 That's great.

00:16:27.580 Bill and I had no relationship.

00:16:31.120 Bill heard an argument in the hallway between my producer and his producer, and my producer

00:16:35.400 at the time was yelling at Bill's producer saying, you stole our story.

00:16:39.620 And that's when I came around the corner.

00:16:41.100 And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, guys, what is up?

00:16:44.440 And he said, you know, Bill O'Reilly's people are stealing our story.

00:16:47.740 And I said, what story is that?

00:16:50.080 The ACORN story.

00:16:50.980 And I said, that's not our story.

00:16:52.300 That's America's story.

00:16:53.480 What are they doing?

00:16:56.360 And he said, well, they're going to send somebody down into New Orleans.

00:16:59.340 And I looked at Bill's producer and I said, that's fantastic.

00:17:02.500 We'll get you everything that we know.

00:17:05.440 Can we have you, after you break the news with Bill, can we have you on the show and you further the show?

00:17:10.780 He was stunned.

00:17:11.600 And, uh, yeah, good.

00:17:16.200 And then I looked at Grish and I said, whatever, whatever they need, get them.

00:17:20.460 This is, we're a team here.

00:17:22.240 That's when Bill walked around the corner and he just looked at me and went back.

00:17:26.900 Bill was sitting around, standing around the corner.

00:17:28.900 He was listening to all of it.

00:17:29.900 That was the first time that Bill knew, I'm not like, I'm not cut from the rest of, I'm not like that.

00:17:37.440 I'm a team player.

00:17:38.860 Let's work together for the good of the company.

00:17:41.280 Let's work together for the good of, uh, of the country.

00:17:45.700 We're allies.

00:17:48.280 If you remember on my show, I used to promote Sean Hannity and he would do specials and I would promote him because I wanted him to know, I'm in your corner.

00:17:57.940 You don't have to be in my corner.

00:18:00.280 I'm in your corner.

00:18:01.860 And I would promote.

00:18:03.720 I did that to every show because I wanted to show, nobody ever asked me to.

00:18:09.480 I had to go track down the details, but I did it to show the other talent.

00:18:14.940 We don't have to be enemies.

00:18:17.700 Why do we have to be enemies?

00:18:20.740 So when that happened, Bill called me up to his office the next day.

00:18:25.920 I'm like, Beck, you stopped by my office.

00:18:29.040 I want to talk to you.

00:18:30.780 Okay.

00:18:32.280 So I go into Bill's office, which was the corner office and pretty darn sweet.

00:18:37.860 And I'm sitting there and, you know, he's got all these pictures of, you know, him with, you know, the Pope and the president and Jesus.

00:18:47.080 And I mean, he's got everybody and you're like, wow.

00:18:49.200 And it was a pretty powerful office.

00:18:52.940 And I'm sitting there like a little know-nothing.

00:18:55.620 And he said, oh, is that the music?

00:19:00.060 I'm going to have to pause in this story so we can pay some light bills.

00:19:05.900 And we'll come back and tell you the rest.

00:19:10.220 And I think it will begin to make sense why I've said we're on a dangerous road in the media and a very dangerous road.

00:19:18.260 So I'm sitting in Bill O'Reilly's office.

00:19:41.760 And Bill calls me in and he said, so what are you doing here?

00:19:49.560 And I'm like, well, you called me to come up to your office.

00:19:52.280 He said, no, I mean, why are you here at Fox?

00:19:54.900 He said, I used to watch you on Headline News.

00:19:57.740 And he said, I'd watch you.

00:19:59.600 And he said, for a while there, I just thought you were nuts.

00:20:02.080 And he said, you might be.

00:20:05.920 I'm not saying you're not.

00:20:08.160 You might be nuts.

00:20:09.740 He said, but you're a hell of a television performer.

00:20:13.220 And I said, thank you.

00:20:15.220 And he said, you really believe this stuff, don't you?

00:20:19.500 And I said, yes, I do.

00:20:22.840 He said, you need to slow down.

00:20:26.960 And I said, what do you mean?

00:20:28.320 And he said, you're just going to burn through way too much.

00:20:33.700 And I said, Bill, I don't plan on being here very long.

00:20:38.120 And he said, why?

00:20:40.820 And I said, I don't want to do this.

00:20:43.020 I figure I'll be here for about two years and that'll be enough.

00:20:46.640 And he said, you could be here the rest of your, look at me.

00:20:50.080 You could be here the rest of your life.

00:20:52.700 And I said, I don't want to be.

00:20:55.580 And he really didn't understand that.

00:20:57.440 And he was like, why not?

00:20:59.720 And I said, because I don't, this isn't what I want to do.

00:21:02.340 This is what I feel like I need to do.

00:21:05.000 So the Bill O'Reilly in the hallway that heard me say, basically, we're partners.

00:21:11.720 We don't even have to be friends, but we don't have to be enemies.

00:21:14.240 We're partners on furthering the news.

00:21:16.540 That coupled with him sitting me down and saying, why are you here?

00:21:21.240 And I said, because I believe it.

00:21:23.540 He said, you're going to need help.

00:21:29.100 And I said, okay.

00:21:31.820 And he said, you say some pretty crazy things.

00:21:36.720 He said, and people are going to need to hear the answer on what you really meant.

00:21:42.680 And he said, you know, you're not going to get a fair interview anywhere.

00:21:46.500 And I said, oh, I know I was just spent some time with Katie Corrick.

00:21:51.940 And he said, I promise you, I will give you a fair interview.

00:21:56.980 I'm not going to, I'm not going to be a shill, but I'll give you a fair interview.

00:22:02.240 I'm going to ask you the question everybody wants to hear.

00:22:05.460 But I'll let you answer it.

00:22:09.740 And I said, that would be tremendous.

00:22:12.520 And if you're a longtime listener, you know, people used to call me all the time and say,

00:22:17.200 Glenn, why do you go on Bill O'Reilly?

00:22:18.680 He's not helping you.

00:22:20.120 He's not your friend.

00:22:21.060 Yes, he was.

00:22:22.680 He was my friend.

00:22:24.760 He was allowing, he was asking the question the Katie Corricks of the world wanted to ask me

00:22:30.780 without the agenda.

00:22:32.320 He was a great friend.

00:22:37.960 He was fact, he and Anderson Cooper are the only two people in the industry that treated

00:22:43.960 me like an equal, like a human being, and like I was intelligent.

00:22:55.800 Only two people on the air that I can think of that actually have been there.

00:23:02.320 And really understand it and may not agree with me on everything, but they know that

00:23:09.220 I'm trying to be a decent human being.

00:23:14.280 I left Bill's office.

00:23:15.820 When I left Bill's office, that didn't take long to get back up to the second floor to

00:23:24.660 where Roger Ailes was.

00:23:27.200 A few weeks later, I was in Ailes' office.

00:23:29.400 He called me in for something.

00:23:31.340 And he said, hey, listen, I know you're new here.

00:23:34.040 I just want you to know you got to be careful of Bill O'Reilly.

00:23:36.240 And I said, okay, he's a user of people, and you just got to stay away from him and be very,

00:23:43.780 very careful.

00:23:45.420 Huh, okay.

00:23:46.580 I didn't say anything.

00:23:48.640 Okay.

00:23:49.540 File it away.

00:23:50.160 A couple weeks later, I get another interview or time with Roger Ailes, and he plants another

00:24:00.380 negative seed about Bill O'Reilly.

00:24:04.520 Bill O'Reilly and I are talking, and I said, hey, Bill, I think I've figured something out

00:24:13.620 about this place.

00:24:14.460 He said, yes.

00:24:16.960 And I said, I bet you're hearing negative things about me, about things I might be saying about

00:24:23.920 you behind your back.

00:24:25.340 And he just smiled, might be.

00:24:28.580 And I said, yeah, I'm hearing things that I shouldn't trust you because you're saying

00:24:34.800 things behind my back.

00:24:36.320 He smiled and said, might be.

00:24:38.780 And I said, I tell you what, why don't we make a deal that we don't listen to those voices,

00:24:47.140 and if we think that it might be true, we come to each other and we ask the other, and

00:24:54.660 we're honest with each other.

00:24:56.420 Other than that, we dismiss them.

00:24:59.100 He said, I think that's very wise advice.

00:25:03.540 Now, here's why I tell this story.

00:25:06.100 Did you see what just happened with Kirsten Powers?

00:25:09.320 She goes into Roger Ailes' office.

00:25:12.560 She's new there.

00:25:14.980 She goes to Roger's office, and she has a problem because he called her blonde on the air.

00:25:22.940 And that's something that she even wrote a book about, you know, about, you know, what?

00:25:29.800 Blondes?

00:25:30.700 A non-blonde joke book?

00:25:32.280 I mean, it was a book about how it's bad and the horrible things that happen to blonde

00:25:39.000 women.

00:25:39.680 Well, I mean, a very standard, you know, criticism by the left was that there are a bunch of

00:25:45.140 blondes working at Fox News.

00:25:46.880 The Fox News babes, they've been called.

00:25:49.040 Um, and, uh, that was something very common that the left was upset about.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, but she's on the left.

00:25:55.060 She was on the left, but worked at Fox News.

00:25:57.420 So defended Fox News against that accusation and was, and has written about how she did

00:26:02.400 not like that people noticed the blonde hair.

00:26:06.220 Right.

00:26:06.780 Um, uh, then you probably should have your hair, you should stop lightening your hair

00:26:11.200 so it's so blonde.

00:26:12.220 But I don't, I don't, that's just a, I don't know what her, her natural color hair is, honestly.

00:26:16.060 Yeah, I would say probably 40% of the people that are on air at Fox are not naturally blonde,

00:26:21.920 but that's, you know, a different story.

00:26:24.260 I'm, believe it or not, not, not a natural blonde anymore.

00:26:27.120 So really?

00:26:27.980 Yes.

00:26:28.280 Wow.

00:26:28.840 Yes.

00:26:29.320 Yes.

00:26:30.300 So anyway, uh, uh, you see what happened.

00:26:34.980 She goes up and talks to daddy Ailes and what's daddy say?

00:26:39.960 A friend of bill, a friend.

00:26:44.280 He got to be careful.

00:26:45.920 You know, bill likes to do, he likes to talk dirty to people.

00:26:50.900 My guess is that bill has made mistakes,

00:26:55.100 but bill mainly is old school.

00:26:58.580 As he says, he just, come on.

00:27:01.320 He's not going to play the politically correct.

00:27:03.840 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:27:04.600 I have to apologize because you were hurt by a blonde.

00:27:07.280 Get over it.

00:27:08.540 You're in the big leagues.

00:27:10.120 Get over it.

00:27:12.860 I think that's old school, Bill O'Reilly.

00:27:15.600 I also know bill.

00:27:17.400 We never had a problem because bill knows that we're not only doing news,

00:27:22.500 but we're also doing a show.

00:27:25.860 And so he takes his business seriously,

00:27:28.880 more seriously than anybody I've ever seen.

00:27:31.980 And he has very high standards.

00:27:34.500 Don't screw it up.

00:27:36.380 Don't screw my show up.

00:27:38.620 Don't waste my time.

00:27:40.060 Don't waste my audience's time.

00:27:42.240 Okay.

00:27:42.840 Very high standards in the nineties and the eighties.

00:27:45.860 This is the way I was,

00:27:47.140 except I was much more of an animal.

00:27:49.840 And if you screwed something up,

00:27:51.640 I was pissed at you.

00:27:53.840 Not that you're not saying the sexual part of it.

00:27:55.520 No, no, no.

00:27:55.900 I'm saying the exacting,

00:27:57.700 demanding exactness in your job.

00:28:01.140 So bill gets a bad rap because look,

00:28:03.600 if you're not good at what you do or you screw up or you're lazy,

00:28:08.140 screw up once.

00:28:09.460 He's going to be mad at you.

00:28:10.700 Screw up twice.

00:28:11.780 You've made an enemy.

00:28:13.520 Not on his show,

00:28:14.580 not on his watch.

00:28:15.620 Don't screw it up.

00:28:17.400 Okay.

00:28:17.920 That's one reason why bill and I never had a problem because I understood that

00:28:21.500 about bill.

00:28:22.380 He takes it very seriously.

00:28:24.720 Those who don't,

00:28:26.100 you got trouble.

00:28:26.680 So he has that going for him.

00:28:30.340 He are against him.

00:28:32.000 He is old school,

00:28:33.480 not going to play political correctness.

00:28:35.280 He made a mistake.

00:28:37.200 I think in a consensual relationship and the worst part of it was Roger Ailes was

00:28:43.740 feeding poison to everybody.

00:28:49.640 So how much of this was right about bill O'Reilly and how much of this is poison

00:28:55.120 that everybody knows that because I mean,

00:28:59.280 even Roger Ailes,

00:29:00.100 who we know is a predator,

00:29:01.540 Roger Ailes says he's a predator,

00:29:03.140 right?

00:29:04.560 I mean,

00:29:05.180 he's got to be a predator.

00:29:06.640 Nobody likes him.

00:29:07.720 Nobody likes him.

00:29:09.160 That was one of the first things,

00:29:10.860 Glenn.

00:29:11.120 There's a reason nobody likes bill O'Reilly.

00:29:14.500 Really?

00:29:15.120 Cause I didn't take everybody else's word for it.

00:29:18.900 I just got to know him and it started with me knowing that he's got to be the most

00:29:26.320 guarded man in the world because either everybody wants something from him or

00:29:31.340 everybody is knifing him in the back for his position.

00:29:35.980 So I showed him support and that broke down a wall.

00:29:41.760 And so I found out who he really was,

00:29:44.500 or at least the really was who he showed me.

00:29:48.420 How many people just took,

00:29:50.560 Oh yeah,

00:29:50.900 well he's watch out,

00:29:52.060 watch out.

00:29:53.800 You know,

00:29:54.480 and it's,

00:29:54.920 it's tough because,

00:29:55.780 you know,

00:29:55.860 you get to these situations and there's nobody who will even say,

00:29:59.120 you know,

00:29:59.920 things that are positive,

00:30:01.340 whether they're judging the case or not,

00:30:03.400 they,

00:30:03.660 you know,

00:30:03.940 even if they like you,

00:30:04.800 they don't defend you.

00:30:05.740 You're not the only one apparently though,

00:30:07.080 defending bill O'Reilly in a world exploding in violence.

00:30:10.480 We'd let we've now identified a naval closer to home.

00:30:13.740 Bill O'Reilly.

00:30:14.920 Sexism is a serious problem and a serious accusation.

00:30:17.660 It's true.

00:30:17.980 There are many people who dismiss a woman as unserious and out of their

00:30:20.740 depth,

00:30:21.100 not because they are,

00:30:22.200 but because they are a woman.

00:30:23.500 Bill O'Reilly isn't one of them.

00:30:25.480 If disagreement is violence and everything is sexist,

00:30:28.620 then eventually nothing will be pretty strong.

00:30:33.900 Oh,

00:30:34.560 the headline is Kirsten powers.

00:30:37.420 Bill O'Reilly is not sexist.

00:30:39.200 Oh my God.

00:30:39.780 Oh my God.

00:30:40.200 Why did she say that?

00:30:41.340 Written in 2014.

00:30:42.200 Oh my gosh.

00:30:43.460 Written in 2014 for USA Today.

00:30:45.800 And she was the one that CNN is using now as the big smoking gun.

00:30:52.320 She must have forgotten when Bill thanked her for her blood.

00:30:56.100 Unbelievable.

00:30:57.560 Jeez.

00:30:58.360 I will tell you.

00:30:59.220 That's incredible.

00:31:00.100 Literally the headline in USA Today,

00:31:02.200 Kirsten powers,

00:31:03.220 Bill O'Reilly is not sexist.

00:31:05.220 That is the headline of the story.

00:31:06.820 It's a column.

00:31:07.400 I mean,

00:31:08.080 it was,

00:31:08.620 it was shocking that she survived the initial attack about her being blonde.

00:31:15.660 I,

00:31:15.860 I,

00:31:16.120 you know,

00:31:16.620 that she could even speak after that is a tribute to her.

00:31:20.180 And then for her to completely forget about it in 2014.

00:31:25.220 What an extraordinary person.

00:31:26.640 We all have days.

00:31:27.440 We forget the unbelievable.

00:31:29.740 I mean,

00:31:29.920 and she goes into,

00:31:30.660 because I had to time.

00:31:31.940 Is there anybody else that is,

00:31:33.560 is defending?

00:31:34.460 I saw Eric Metaxas say something nice.

00:31:36.740 Is there anybody saying anything nice about Bill O'Reilly?

00:31:39.860 Other than Kirsten powers.

00:31:41.140 In 2014.

00:31:41.620 Other than when it was popular to say something nice about Bill O'Reilly.

00:31:45.880 I look,

00:31:46.260 I'm not judging the sex.

00:31:47.500 I don't know any of that.

00:31:48.880 So I don't know,

00:31:50.320 but I,

00:31:51.060 and I think you should,

00:31:52.240 you need to take people seriously on that stuff.

00:31:55.500 And I don't like if he's treating people,

00:31:58.740 you know,

00:31:59.260 poorly,

00:32:00.280 you know,

00:32:00.640 on the staff.

00:32:01.420 I don't like that.

00:32:02.080 Shut up,

00:32:02.420 Jeffy.

00:32:02.860 I don't know.

00:32:03.780 I don't like it.

00:32:04.680 I think it's when you're rude to people,

00:32:06.540 it's wrong.

00:32:07.200 Shut the fat mouth.

00:32:08.640 That's a surprise to me.

00:32:10.540 I didn't realize you'd feel that way.

00:32:13.580 Close those,

00:32:14.540 those lard,

00:32:16.900 those ridden eyes.

00:32:19.180 Is that a new policy coming from Glenn Beck?

00:32:21.720 It is.

00:32:22.560 But I don't,

00:32:24.240 you don't stand for that.

00:32:25.640 It's not right.

00:32:26.780 It's not right.

00:32:28.360 And in a world,

00:32:29.560 in a world where there are contracts and stars,

00:32:33.920 it sometimes lasts longer than it should.

00:32:36.720 But also,

00:32:39.260 let's look at facts.

00:32:43.800 I mean,

00:32:44.080 have we seen a single fact?

00:32:45.940 Have we seen any proof?

00:32:47.440 Have we seen evidence of any of it?

00:32:49.660 I don't think so.

00:32:50.480 We do have somebody's word against it.

00:32:52.760 And nobody,

00:32:53.240 nobody wants to,

00:32:54.400 nobody wants to stand up

00:32:56.200 because it's unpopular.

00:32:58.800 And we are,

00:33:00.100 we know where I'm going to be.

00:33:01.420 I will be painted as a guy

00:33:03.300 who's dismissing sexual assault

00:33:06.260 or,

00:33:06.900 you know,

00:33:07.900 sexual impropriety

00:33:10.440 or,

00:33:11.220 or any of that.

00:33:12.740 I know that's how it's going to be painted,

00:33:14.580 but that's not what I'm saying.

00:33:16.340 That's not what I'm saying.

00:33:17.640 I'm saying there is real

00:33:19.200 and there is fake.

00:33:20.380 I don't know which this is,

00:33:22.360 but I haven't seen the real stuff.

00:33:25.220 I'm only seeing things that make me say,

00:33:27.920 well,

00:33:28.060 he called her blonde

00:33:29.060 and then Roger Ailes said something about him.

00:33:32.040 That's not the same as sexual harassment.

00:33:35.580 What are we,

00:33:36.100 what are we doing?

00:33:38.480 Right is right.

00:33:39.780 No matter what it costs you personally,

00:33:43.080 right is right.

00:33:43.700 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:33:50.080 Mercury.

00:33:53.840 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:33:56.960 Do you hear the hatred happening here?

00:34:00.040 Pat is,

00:34:01.580 Pat is,

00:34:02.440 go ahead,

00:34:03.000 say what you said just a minute ago

00:34:04.880 about bronies.

00:34:07.240 Go ahead.

00:34:08.180 These are like teenagers

00:34:09.900 and young adult males

00:34:12.020 who are into My Little Pony.

00:34:15.040 Yes.

00:34:15.700 They need to be banished from society.

00:34:18.160 I think there should be

00:34:19.200 like an island of bronies.

00:34:21.020 Do you remember the boy?

00:34:23.360 Do you remember the boy we had

00:34:25.460 and we brought him in?

00:34:27.940 We got the entire collection.

00:34:29.380 We got the entire collection.

00:34:31.060 We got him a backpack

00:34:32.180 with My Little Pony,

00:34:33.620 his favorite My Little Pony.

00:34:35.060 I don't remember that at all.

00:34:35.900 You don't remember that at all

00:34:36.920 because it was the exact opposite

00:34:38.340 of what you were saying right now.

00:34:39.860 How old was his kid?

00:34:40.680 Is that you?

00:34:41.220 Yeah.

00:34:41.500 How old was he?

00:34:42.800 I don't remember.

00:34:43.760 No.

00:34:44.380 At four, it's okay.

00:34:45.320 Twelve?

00:34:46.340 Thirteen?

00:34:47.160 Something like that?

00:34:49.400 Are you telling me

00:34:50.120 self-respecting young men?

00:34:52.280 You were on the show!

00:34:55.180 I don't remember that.

00:34:56.980 Wow.

00:34:57.900 I don't remember that.

00:34:58.400 Kirsten Powers,

00:34:59.820 it is you.

00:35:01.340 This is

00:35:03.340 the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:35:29.840 Hello, America.

00:35:31.380 A lot going on.

00:35:32.260 Tillerson is now ramping up

00:35:35.640 the fight with Iran

00:35:37.160 and the Iran nuclear deal

00:35:40.940 which was a horrible deal

00:35:43.520 to begin with.

00:35:44.440 Stu, I mean,

00:35:45.480 Pat is still beside himself

00:35:47.800 about bronies.

00:35:48.780 Men who like

00:35:50.580 My Little Pony.

00:35:52.240 He does make a point

00:35:53.620 worth

00:35:54.080 hearing.

00:35:55.420 There's

00:35:55.840 new report

00:35:57.060 on the border wall

00:35:58.200 that

00:35:59.220 it's going to kill birds

00:36:00.800 like nobody's business.

00:36:03.220 And I think we have to

00:36:04.280 start there.

00:36:05.160 And your phone call

00:36:05.740 888-727-BECK.

00:36:08.200 We have a lot to get to.

00:36:10.020 Let's start

00:36:10.500 right now.

00:36:11.200 The fusion

00:36:30.580 of entertainment

00:36:31.640 and enlightenment.

00:36:33.760 This is

00:36:34.400 the Glenn Beck

00:36:36.260 Program.

00:36:37.300 Okay.

00:36:42.680 If you were for

00:36:43.760 a border fence

00:36:44.680 or border wall

00:36:45.420 you're for

00:36:46.600 stronger

00:36:46.940 immigration laws

00:36:49.300 or at least

00:36:49.740 enforcing

00:36:50.240 not for stronger.

00:36:51.220 You just want to enforce

00:36:52.320 the laws that we have.

00:36:53.660 Hateful.

00:36:54.780 You're going to

00:36:55.460 probably change your mind

00:36:56.580 and this is going to be

00:36:57.500 that moment

00:36:58.180 I always say

00:36:58.840 what was the pivot point?

00:37:00.460 This will be the moment

00:37:01.480 where you will say

00:37:02.380 this was my pivot point.

00:37:03.940 I had never thought of this

00:37:04.980 when we were talking

00:37:05.820 about the border wall.

00:37:07.300 Listen

00:37:08.500 to this.

00:37:10.060 Well Craig

00:37:10.500 if this border wall

00:37:11.540 happens

00:37:12.040 it will be

00:37:12.760 an unprecedented

00:37:13.620 environmental catastrophe.

00:37:15.600 This is Jeff Corwin

00:37:16.400 by the way.

00:37:17.160 Jeff Corwin

00:37:17.800 who's a

00:37:18.300 I mean he's an animal expert

00:37:20.040 we all know that.

00:37:21.280 Remember from

00:37:21.900 was it Animal Planet

00:37:23.140 he did all those shows

00:37:24.080 and now he's on an ABC

00:37:25.140 special.

00:37:26.620 Now this is

00:37:26.940 I want you to know

00:37:27.900 this is

00:37:29.380 unprecedented

00:37:30.020 environmental

00:37:32.280 disaster

00:37:33.600 tragedy and disaster.

00:37:35.260 It's poised

00:37:35.900 to cut through

00:37:36.780 more than

00:37:37.360 1200 miles

00:37:38.860 of habitat

00:37:39.660 along the border

00:37:41.140 between

00:37:41.720 United States

00:37:43.040 and Mexico.

00:37:43.720 There are over

00:37:45.160 90 threatened

00:37:46.940 and critically

00:37:47.840 endangered species

00:37:49.180 that are in the

00:37:50.920 crosshairs

00:37:51.800 because of this

00:37:52.740 wall

00:37:53.420 and we've got

00:37:54.820 over 100

00:37:55.520 migratory birds

00:37:56.760 that will be impacted

00:37:58.080 from this wall.

00:37:59.000 the endangered

00:38:00.880 Mexican gray wolf

00:38:02.400 only 133

00:38:04.080 individuals left

00:38:06.260 of this iconic

00:38:07.240 carnivore

00:38:08.440 this amazing canine

00:38:09.860 its head is on

00:38:11.140 the chalking

00:38:11.700 block

00:38:11.940 and likely

00:38:12.760 could fall prey

00:38:13.400 to extinction.

00:38:14.440 The expanse

00:38:15.080 of the jaguar

00:38:15.840 just now

00:38:16.780 being restored

00:38:18.280 into its habitat

00:38:19.220 in Arizona

00:38:19.940 will likely

00:38:21.020 be extirpated

00:38:22.220 pushed back

00:38:23.120 towards the precipice

00:38:24.160 heat of extinction

00:38:25.080 because of this

00:38:26.000 disastrous wall.

00:38:27.300 Hang on just a second.

00:38:28.480 Animals don't have

00:38:29.340 passports.

00:38:29.920 There are no borders

00:38:30.520 for animals.

00:38:31.500 They don't have pockets.

00:38:32.920 So we can't require

00:38:34.000 them now to have

00:38:34.760 passports.

00:38:35.400 They do not have

00:38:36.220 pockets

00:38:36.660 except for the kangaroo

00:38:38.000 but that's a different

00:38:38.800 continent.

00:38:40.020 So if we were talking

00:38:41.080 about kangaroos

00:38:41.900 we could get them

00:38:42.620 pockets

00:38:43.180 we could give them

00:38:43.900 passports

00:38:44.340 because they have

00:38:44.780 pockets.

00:38:45.500 On that

00:38:45.900 they don't have

00:38:46.380 pockets.

00:38:47.160 They don't have

00:38:47.860 hands either

00:38:48.600 so they couldn't

00:38:49.240 really step up

00:38:49.920 to the little thing

00:38:50.600 and they can't talk.

00:38:51.960 It's complicated

00:38:53.000 with animals.

00:38:54.500 Borders are complicated

00:38:55.400 with animals.

00:38:56.680 Now the one

00:38:57.400 I'm worried about

00:38:58.160 because we are

00:38:58.780 talking about

00:38:59.520 an environmental

00:39:00.280 disaster.

00:39:01.380 I'm worried about

00:39:01.920 the birds.

00:39:02.700 Now listen.

00:39:03.140 The risk of

00:39:03.660 sounding ignorant

00:39:05.860 or foolish

00:39:06.660 the birds

00:39:07.620 specifically

00:39:08.320 wouldn't they

00:39:09.440 just be able

00:39:09.920 to fly over

00:39:10.540 the wall?

00:39:12.960 He's almost

00:39:13.720 afraid.

00:39:14.320 It's such an

00:39:14.820 obvious question.

00:39:16.160 He's afraid

00:39:16.700 to ask.

00:39:17.300 I don't want

00:39:18.600 to sound ignorant

00:39:19.340 to anyone

00:39:20.060 but I'm going

00:39:20.840 to dial in

00:39:21.940 some common

00:39:22.540 sense.

00:39:24.160 I'm just

00:39:24.820 going to say

00:39:26.620 it.

00:39:27.680 Birds.

00:39:28.340 They fly.

00:39:28.980 They can fly

00:39:29.580 left and right

00:39:30.360 but I think

00:39:31.240 they can fly

00:39:31.920 up and down

00:39:33.120 as well.

00:39:35.120 Not 30 feet

00:39:36.820 off the ground.

00:39:37.960 By the way

00:39:38.680 the wall

00:39:39.000 will not wind

00:39:39.700 up being 30 feet

00:39:40.600 would be my

00:39:41.280 guess.

00:39:42.740 It'll be 10

00:39:43.840 tops.

00:39:45.200 Well it's

00:39:45.880 interesting you

00:39:46.520 should say that

00:39:47.280 and it is

00:39:48.660 an excellent

00:39:49.240 question.

00:39:49.720 and certainly

00:39:50.600 many animals

00:39:51.620 that fly

00:39:52.240 can migrate

00:39:52.880 over that

00:39:53.420 wall.

00:39:54.780 So yes

00:39:56.020 they will

00:39:56.500 just fly

00:39:56.940 over the

00:39:57.260 wall.

00:39:58.000 So it's a

00:39:59.080 good question

00:39:59.900 because it's

00:40:01.280 an obvious

00:40:01.940 question.

00:40:02.680 I didn't

00:40:02.900 think you'd

00:40:03.280 ask it

00:40:03.680 because you're

00:40:04.020 on MSNBC.

00:40:05.280 Who knew?

00:40:06.280 Yeah I mean

00:40:07.080 that's not a

00:40:07.740 question that

00:40:08.320 you should

00:40:09.580 have asked

00:40:10.180 but it's a

00:40:11.740 good question.

00:40:12.140 This sounds like

00:40:12.200 Fox News

00:40:12.700 propaganda to me.

00:40:14.320 Birds can fly.

00:40:15.660 But many

00:40:17.200 animals actually

00:40:18.200 stay very low.

00:40:19.600 Many of these

00:40:20.260 animals for

00:40:20.840 example birds

00:40:21.740 and bats are

00:40:23.340 actually passing

00:40:24.680 close to the

00:40:26.620 ground surface

00:40:27.660 because they're

00:40:28.480 heading towards

00:40:29.160 plants.

00:40:30.540 I say if they're

00:40:31.180 that stupid

00:40:32.100 they probably

00:40:33.640 deserve to run

00:40:34.420 into the wall.

00:40:35.300 Darwin.

00:40:36.700 Darwin.

00:40:37.940 If you're a

00:40:38.700 bat and your

00:40:39.580 sonar radar

00:40:40.620 whatever it is

00:40:41.880 that makes you

00:40:42.440 fly around

00:40:43.020 without eyes

00:40:43.860 is so bad

00:40:45.020 that you

00:40:45.720 can't find

00:40:46.740 and see

00:40:47.440 a 1700

00:40:49.060 mile fence.

00:40:51.920 Natural

00:40:52.440 selection should

00:40:53.260 kick in for

00:40:53.840 that bat.

00:40:54.640 Seems like

00:40:55.080 trees would be

00:40:55.700 killing them

00:40:56.120 too.

00:40:56.860 They're flying

00:40:57.740 low because

00:40:58.100 they're going

00:40:58.420 for the

00:40:58.720 plants.

00:40:59.220 A rock.

00:41:00.160 Private fences

00:41:01.360 around homes.

00:41:02.840 A home.

00:41:03.760 A home.

00:41:05.620 And a

00:41:06.140 parked car.

00:41:06.860 Can I tell you

00:41:07.360 something?

00:41:08.300 Are we saying

00:41:08.980 that the wall

00:41:09.440 will be built

00:41:09.980 out of glass

00:41:10.760 and we're

00:41:11.160 going to use

00:41:11.540 Windex on it

00:41:12.340 so that we'll

00:41:12.780 be able to see

00:41:13.560 that it's a

00:41:14.000 wall?

00:41:14.800 Maybe that's

00:41:15.280 what it is.

00:41:16.320 Let me tell

00:41:17.200 you something.

00:41:18.720 I think you're

00:41:19.380 all dismissing

00:41:20.420 the pictures

00:41:22.120 that we've

00:41:22.600 all seen

00:41:23.220 of the

00:41:24.220 Great Wall

00:41:24.680 of China

00:41:25.300 and all

00:41:26.260 of the

00:41:26.880 dead birds

00:41:27.500 and the

00:41:29.100 bats

00:41:29.520 on both

00:41:30.700 sides

00:41:31.400 of that

00:41:32.000 wall.

00:41:33.560 Giant

00:41:34.120 piles.

00:41:35.200 Piles of

00:41:35.600 bats.

00:41:35.820 And it

00:41:36.080 doesn't

00:41:36.400 after a

00:41:37.420 while

00:41:37.760 the wall

00:41:38.800 doesn't matter

00:41:39.400 because

00:41:39.960 the dead

00:41:41.280 bats

00:41:41.980 are just

00:41:42.760 they become

00:41:43.320 ramps

00:41:44.120 and you

00:41:44.540 just walk

00:41:45.320 on the

00:41:45.900 bodies

00:41:46.220 of the

00:41:46.640 dead

00:41:46.980 bats.

00:41:48.100 A bat

00:41:48.260 ramp?

00:41:49.120 Yeah, it's a

00:41:49.500 bat ramp.

00:41:51.080 You're mocking.

00:41:52.140 Were you mocking?

00:41:52.780 No, I said it was a

00:41:53.340 bat ramp.

00:41:54.000 A bamp.

00:41:55.420 If you want to

00:41:56.680 maybe call it that.

00:41:57.360 But that was not

00:41:57.960 mocking.

00:41:58.440 No, no, no.

00:41:59.000 It's very, very

00:42:00.000 important part of

00:42:01.940 our security.

00:42:03.160 We should, you

00:42:04.020 know what, I'm

00:42:04.500 going to give

00:42:04.760 that free to the

00:42:05.780 scientific community.

00:42:06.920 Oh, wow.

00:42:07.480 Vamps.

00:42:08.120 Well, it's

00:42:08.440 yours, but I

00:42:09.220 Bamp.

00:42:10.300 Or a

00:42:10.840 Bamp.

00:42:11.200 Bamp.

00:42:11.860 Bat ramp.

00:42:12.480 Yeah, a

00:42:12.800 bat ramp.

00:42:13.320 A Bamp.

00:42:14.440 You can use

00:42:15.140 that in all

00:42:16.520 your scientific

00:42:18.480 literature on

00:42:19.560 why this is

00:42:20.380 going to be

00:42:20.700 such a

00:42:21.620 hassle.

00:42:22.060 Devastating.

00:42:22.600 Devastating.

00:42:22.960 Devastating

00:42:23.400 disaster.

00:42:24.020 Devastating

00:42:24.420 disaster for

00:42:25.140 the birds

00:42:25.520 that can't

00:42:26.000 fly up.

00:42:26.340 They're on

00:42:26.440 the chopping

00:42:26.840 block.

00:42:27.360 The wolves

00:42:28.300 are on a

00:42:28.680 chopping block.

00:42:29.680 Are they

00:42:30.140 actually going

00:42:30.860 to put wolves

00:42:31.520 heads on

00:42:32.040 chopping blocks

00:42:32.620 and cut

00:42:33.180 their heads

00:42:33.620 off?

00:42:33.720 The imagery

00:42:33.840 is so great.

00:42:34.760 I'm sorry, we

00:42:35.360 can't build this

00:42:35.880 wall until I

00:42:36.440 cut your head

00:42:36.900 off.

00:42:37.040 I mean, if

00:42:37.640 there are

00:42:38.740 150 of

00:42:40.140 them, what

00:42:41.760 do you say

00:42:42.420 we make sure

00:42:44.440 that it's not

00:42:45.540 all the male

00:42:47.040 wolves on

00:42:48.220 one side and

00:42:49.120 female wolves

00:42:50.240 on the other?

00:42:51.080 Or, you

00:42:51.760 know, I mean,

00:42:52.180 there is an

00:42:53.080 argument against

00:42:53.820 free-range

00:42:54.440 wolves.

00:42:55.180 I don't know

00:42:55.540 if anyone

00:42:55.780 knows this.

00:42:56.160 No, no, no.

00:42:56.720 These are

00:42:57.120 beautiful animals.

00:42:58.380 Oh, okay.

00:42:58.820 They're carnivores.

00:42:59.780 They're beautiful

00:43:00.580 carnivores.

00:43:00.780 Oh, that sounds

00:43:01.100 terrible, actually.

00:43:02.940 Have you ever

00:43:03.200 seen a wolf?

00:43:04.540 Yeah.

00:43:04.820 Yeah.

00:43:05.400 In real life?

00:43:06.800 Yes.

00:43:07.180 They are

00:43:07.540 terrifying.

00:43:09.020 I mean, I

00:43:09.360 saw, I mean,

00:43:09.940 it's like, you

00:43:10.780 know, Little

00:43:11.280 Red Riding

00:43:11.960 Holt.

00:43:12.340 It was a

00:43:13.040 wolf that

00:43:13.960 ate her and

00:43:14.940 the grandma.

00:43:16.080 That's right.

00:43:16.480 I mean, hello.

00:43:18.100 And then jaguars?

00:43:19.720 Do we really

00:43:20.340 want jaguars

00:43:21.340 roaming free on

00:43:22.080 the border?

00:43:22.500 I'd like them

00:43:22.980 to stay on the

00:43:23.460 Mexican side.

00:43:24.420 Yes.

00:43:24.820 I mean, that's

00:43:25.260 cool.

00:43:26.080 I'm not going to

00:43:26.740 have a problem

00:43:27.200 with that.

00:43:27.560 It's one of the

00:43:27.880 benefits of the

00:43:28.400 wall.

00:43:28.720 I think we put

00:43:29.000 all the dangerous

00:43:29.660 animals on the

00:43:30.260 other side of it.

00:43:30.820 That side.

00:43:31.680 You can have

00:43:32.120 the jaguars.

00:43:33.040 I love that about

00:43:34.300 you and Mexico

00:43:35.480 and I'll go

00:43:36.280 visit and see

00:43:37.580 those jaguars.

00:43:39.160 You let them

00:43:39.920 mate on your

00:43:40.920 side of the

00:43:41.520 wall.

00:43:42.320 But even so,

00:43:43.080 I'm kind of

00:43:43.480 confused as to

00:43:44.580 why they can't

00:43:45.500 just move out of

00:43:46.220 the way of the

00:43:46.680 wall being built

00:43:47.420 and then go about

00:43:48.280 their business.

00:43:48.880 Well, the imagery

00:43:49.280 there is amazing.

00:43:50.200 These animals are

00:43:51.140 in the crosshairs.

00:43:53.000 Crosshairs, yes.

00:43:53.740 They're on the

00:43:54.400 chopping block.

00:43:55.660 None of these

00:43:56.380 things are real.

00:43:57.160 You're just saying,

00:43:58.200 what, they

00:43:58.600 wouldn't move

00:43:59.260 a hundred yards?

00:44:00.600 Like, why?

00:44:01.960 I mean, I

00:44:02.600 understand that

00:44:03.420 that isn't, it

00:44:04.060 could be

00:44:04.520 theoretical.

00:44:05.320 Like, if you

00:44:05.620 were putting it,

00:44:06.220 there's actually a

00:44:07.140 river between the

00:44:08.140 two countries too

00:44:08.940 now that they

00:44:09.580 navigate all right.

00:44:10.580 All right.

00:44:11.140 Okay.

00:44:12.380 Thanks to the

00:44:13.460 bridge, do we

00:44:15.340 not, do we need

00:44:16.040 to look, do I

00:44:16.660 need to bring up

00:44:17.460 North and South

00:44:18.120 Korea where all

00:44:19.880 of the DMZ, where

00:44:21.140 all of the little

00:44:22.060 wolf family members

00:44:24.320 are living in

00:44:25.140 freedom and the

00:44:26.180 North Korean wolves

00:44:28.260 are living in

00:44:29.100 slavery and

00:44:29.980 they're not able

00:44:30.760 to see each

00:44:31.680 other anymore and

00:44:32.580 they don't know if

00:44:33.100 they're alive or

00:44:33.720 dead?

00:44:34.460 Imagine, you're a

00:44:35.380 wolf and you

00:44:36.980 don't know if

00:44:37.980 you're alive or

00:44:38.680 dead.

00:44:39.100 If your relative

00:44:41.220 who you love is

00:44:42.580 on the other side

00:44:43.280 of the wall with

00:44:44.080 a concussion or

00:44:44.980 worse because it

00:44:46.020 didn't see the

00:44:46.600 wall and ran right

00:44:47.440 into it trying to

00:44:48.460 come home to you,

00:44:49.840 it's wrong.

00:44:50.400 It was wrong with

00:44:50.860 the Berlin Wall.

00:44:51.760 It's wrong with

00:44:52.200 the Great Wall of

00:44:53.280 China.

00:44:54.620 China.

00:44:55.700 It's wrong for

00:44:57.380 birds.

00:44:57.840 It's wrong for

00:44:58.240 bats.

00:44:58.840 It is wrong for

00:44:59.780 Panthers, Jaguars,

00:45:03.820 BMWs, Mexican

00:45:05.220 Timberwolves, all

00:45:06.440 of them.

00:45:06.840 Whatever.

00:45:07.600 All of them.

00:45:09.640 Separating wolf

00:45:10.400 families.

00:45:11.180 Bad.

00:45:11.800 You go ahead.

00:45:12.760 You break up the

00:45:13.420 families.

00:45:14.160 Could we go to

00:45:15.540 Victoria in New

00:45:16.420 York?

00:45:18.100 Yes, Victoria,

00:45:19.240 you're on more on

00:45:20.120 bird talk.

00:45:21.020 You're on bird

00:45:21.520 talk.

00:45:21.820 Go ahead.

00:45:23.900 Hello, Victoria,

00:45:24.740 line one.

00:45:27.420 That's Mary.

00:45:28.820 Hang on.

00:45:29.560 Put Mary on hold

00:45:30.260 and let's go to

00:45:30.700 Victoria, line one

00:45:31.580 please.

00:45:31.900 There we go.

00:45:32.280 Victoria, hi.

00:45:33.940 Yes, hi.

00:45:34.920 I just love this

00:45:35.680 show.

00:45:36.580 Thank you.

00:45:36.880 I wanted to make a

00:45:39.020 comparison here.

00:45:39.960 They're so concerned

00:45:40.920 about the wall.

00:45:42.360 But meanwhile, what

00:45:44.120 about those windmills

00:45:45.520 that are out there

00:45:46.500 killing birds that are

00:45:47.720 supposed to be great

00:45:48.700 for the environment?

00:45:50.480 Where's Jeff Corwin on

00:45:51.500 those?

00:45:51.760 Bill O'Reilly on your

00:45:52.680 program?

00:45:53.500 Can you put Bill O'Reilly

00:45:54.660 on your station?

00:45:56.400 Give him a show on

00:45:57.900 your station?

00:45:58.360 Can I put Bill O'Reilly?

00:45:59.340 Well, that would be up

00:46:00.000 to Bill O'Reilly.

00:46:01.980 Well, suggest it.

00:46:03.640 Yeah, I don't know if

00:46:04.300 Bill O'Reilly, I mean,

00:46:05.000 Bill O'Reilly's worth a

00:46:05.840 fortune.

00:46:06.640 And, you know, I don't,

00:46:07.840 you know, I don't know if

00:46:08.780 Bill, I don't see Bill as

00:46:10.720 the type that's walking

00:46:11.580 around, you know, on the

00:46:12.580 beach with a metal

00:46:13.220 detector.

00:46:14.440 But I don't know if Bill

00:46:15.380 wants to, you know, what

00:46:16.720 Bill wants to do.

00:46:17.440 Bill would be willing to

00:46:18.940 relocate to Dallas.

00:46:20.280 Did you hear?

00:46:21.120 You wouldn't need to

00:46:22.080 relocate to Dallas.

00:46:23.660 But if he did, you know,

00:46:25.300 he could just come in

00:46:25.960 here and sit down and we

00:46:27.480 could put a microphone in

00:46:28.440 front of him so he felt at

00:46:29.560 home, you know, and

00:46:31.460 position some cameras that

00:46:33.080 point his way.

00:46:34.340 Right.

00:46:34.640 And we could say, hey,

00:46:35.420 Bill, if you miss it,

00:46:36.500 just pretend to do the

00:46:37.840 factor tonight.

00:46:39.020 Every night at about the

00:46:40.620 same time.

00:46:41.500 Right.

00:46:42.540 Right.

00:46:43.100 We could do that?

00:46:44.100 I think we could trick him

00:46:44.260 into this.

00:46:44.820 Wow.

00:46:44.980 I think we could trick him

00:46:45.660 into it.

00:46:46.140 Well, if birds are dumb

00:46:47.640 enough to not float over a

00:46:48.780 wall, maybe Bill is dumb

00:46:50.000 enough to do that.

00:46:50.820 I don't think so.

00:46:51.820 No, I know.

00:46:52.540 I don't think so.

00:46:53.960 Thanks so much for your

00:46:54.860 phone call.

00:46:55.300 Mary in Pennsylvania.

00:46:56.320 Hello, Mary.

00:46:56.760 You're on the Glenn Beck

00:46:57.340 program.

00:47:00.700 Mary, are you there?

00:47:03.200 All right.

00:47:03.720 Let him go to TJ in

00:47:04.800 North Carolina.

00:47:07.140 Hey, how are you doing?

00:47:09.840 I was wondering, what do

00:47:11.300 you think Bill O'Reilly's

00:47:12.300 next career move is?

00:47:13.380 I know he's, you know,

00:47:14.580 he's old enough to retire,

00:47:15.600 but I mean, I would like to

00:47:18.920 see him on another show,

00:47:19.920 maybe get another cable

00:47:22.160 outlet.

00:47:23.600 Maybe relocate to Dallas and

00:47:25.580 sit at a desk with a

00:47:27.060 microphone in front of him.

00:47:28.100 Yeah.

00:47:28.820 Yeah.

00:47:29.260 And then position two cameras

00:47:31.160 that would be pointed his way.

00:47:33.220 I'm just kind of brainstorming

00:47:36.120 top of my head here.

00:47:37.140 All right.

00:47:37.540 All right.

00:47:38.300 Okay.

00:47:39.260 Well, I don't, I honestly

00:47:40.140 don't know.

00:47:40.600 I don't think that Bill's

00:47:41.340 even thought of it yet.

00:47:42.000 Bill and I, I responded to

00:47:44.460 Bill yesterday around this

00:47:46.900 time.

00:47:47.120 He was getting on a plane to

00:47:48.320 go from Rome back and he was

00:47:50.860 still saying, you know, we're

00:47:52.940 still trying to work things

00:47:54.240 out.

00:47:54.600 So, I mean, I haven't, you

00:47:55.780 know.

00:47:56.180 Kind of interesting because we're

00:47:57.120 not the only ones that have

00:47:57.960 thought of this.

00:47:58.500 They were discussing it on

00:47:59.620 CNN.

00:47:59.940 Was it early this morning?

00:48:02.060 I think it was like four o'clock

00:48:03.200 in the morning.

00:48:03.720 They had a guest, Joe Concha, on

00:48:06.040 talking about it.

00:48:06.820 Moving forward, what happens

00:48:07.780 with Bill O'Reilly?

00:48:08.620 I got my money on Glenn Beck.

00:48:10.400 The Blaze.

00:48:11.520 They're good friends.

00:48:12.840 They exchanged them emails just

00:48:14.060 yesterday as O'Reilly was

00:48:15.280 coming back from Italy.

00:48:16.320 They have an opening.

00:48:17.340 They might have an opening.

00:48:18.380 Tommy Laird no longer at the

00:48:19.680 network.

00:48:20.060 And trust me, Bill O'Reilly,

00:48:21.480 four million viewers a night.

00:48:23.300 That would be a huge get for

00:48:24.440 Beck.

00:48:24.680 Can he afford him?

00:48:25.600 I'm willing to bet that Bill

00:48:26.600 O'Reilly is worth $85 million.

00:48:28.240 And is that enough for Bill

00:48:29.300 O'Reilly?

00:48:29.840 I mean, you know, think about

00:48:31.060 his ratings.

00:48:31.760 Right.

00:48:32.360 Well, they have a pretty good

00:48:33.740 platform.

00:48:34.260 It's not CNN.

00:48:35.080 It's not Fox News.

00:48:35.940 But he's not getting signed by

00:48:37.080 CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS.

00:48:40.740 He's going to have to go to a

00:48:42.120 network like the Blaze and he

00:48:43.500 could help put them on the map.

00:48:44.720 But for him, it's about being a

00:48:46.220 culture warrior.

00:48:47.500 That's what he's always called

00:48:48.360 himself.

00:48:49.000 He'll be willing to take a pay

00:48:50.040 cut if he goes there because

00:48:51.260 he just wants, he doesn't

00:48:52.140 know anything else to do.

00:48:53.900 I don't know if Newsmax can,

00:48:55.680 has the distribution or can

00:48:56.920 afford him or he has the

00:48:58.240 relationship there with

00:48:59.080 Chris Ruddy who runs that

00:48:59.920 place.

00:49:00.560 I think that with Beck, he

00:49:02.060 does have that relationship.

00:49:03.680 Interesting.

00:49:03.800 So if he's there a year from

00:49:05.360 now, then we'll play back the

00:49:06.220 tape.

00:49:06.800 I wonder if Bill is interested

00:49:08.920 in a 99.7% pay cut.

00:49:14.180 Seriously, I'll pay him in

00:49:15.280 sandwiches.

00:49:16.100 We cannot offer him, by the

00:49:17.200 way, that was not legally

00:49:18.200 binding.

00:49:18.620 We cannot offer him 0.3% of his

00:49:19.920 salary.

00:49:20.140 That is not something we can

00:49:22.480 ask.

00:49:22.620 Can Beck afford it?

00:49:23.540 No.

00:49:24.020 No.

00:49:24.600 Beck cannot afford the

00:49:26.340 bill rally.

00:49:27.380 Nope.

00:49:28.000 Nope.

00:49:28.920 Nope.

00:49:30.200 I don't know.

00:49:30.820 What do you think he is going

00:49:31.560 to do?

00:49:32.320 I don't know.

00:49:33.180 I mean, I, I, you know.

00:49:33.980 How would you, could I have

00:49:34.640 this conversation on the air?

00:49:35.960 And have a nice, take a, take

00:49:37.500 a, maybe a couple minutes to,

00:49:38.900 to think about that and not

00:49:40.080 rush into something.

00:49:40.980 I mean, one thing for him is

00:49:42.460 they're, they're talking about

00:49:43.380 it like a $40 million

00:49:44.360 settlement or, or.

00:49:45.820 Oh yeah.

00:49:46.100 No, he doesn't need the money.

00:49:47.360 I mean, he's, he's going to

00:49:48.080 be, but he is motivated by

00:49:49.320 money.

00:49:49.640 I mean, he, he, he believes,

00:49:51.720 you know, as I do, your work

00:49:53.640 is worth something.

00:49:54.760 Yeah, of course, of course.

00:49:56.040 I just don't know.

00:49:56.900 I don't know anyone who has

00:49:58.360 that kind of money.

00:49:59.260 Yeah.

00:49:59.940 It's going to pay him.

00:50:01.460 How would you feel about Bill

00:50:02.600 O'Reilly here?

00:50:04.100 I feel great about it.

00:50:05.720 As long as, you know, he

00:50:07.500 doesn't hit on me.

00:50:09.260 I don't think that's going to

00:50:12.240 happen.

00:50:12.540 That's not going to happen.

00:50:13.440 I don't think.

00:50:13.840 You don't think so?

00:50:14.500 No.

00:50:14.880 I feel pretty good about it.

00:50:16.120 I'll tell you what.

00:50:16.540 I mean, if he says

00:50:18.300 something about my

00:50:18.940 blondness, you're going to

00:50:20.800 go nuts after you've written

00:50:22.400 a story about how he's not

00:50:23.780 a sexist.

00:50:24.040 Kirsten Powers.

00:50:24.880 I don't think you're not

00:50:25.500 going to say, he's not going

00:50:26.100 to say anything about your

00:50:26.680 blondness.

00:50:27.140 You're a blonde.

00:50:27.720 You're fat.

00:50:30.180 You know, you know, what?

00:50:34.300 First of all, that's a good

00:50:35.120 comeback.

00:50:35.660 How long did you work on

00:50:36.820 that one, Jeff?

00:50:37.700 You know, man, he gets me

00:50:39.880 every time.

00:50:40.560 He does.

00:50:40.980 Yeah.

00:50:41.220 This is why he wins all

00:50:42.200 these battles.

00:50:45.640 You know, Jeffy, how much of a

00:50:47.620 lawsuit you could have.

00:50:48.760 Oh, geez, don't put that in

00:50:49.640 his head.

00:50:50.040 No, please.

00:50:50.880 Don't put that in his head.

00:50:52.220 It's too fat.

00:50:52.960 It doesn't.

00:50:53.500 It's not penetrating all the

00:50:54.660 way to the brain.

00:50:55.680 Not to the logic center of his

00:50:57.520 head.

00:50:57.920 It doesn't.

00:50:58.960 Anyway, that's why I've always

00:51:00.560 been so respectful of Jeffy.

00:51:02.260 Hell have you.

00:51:02.960 And the great work he does

00:51:04.580 here at the police.

00:51:05.200 Jeffy, let me tell you

00:51:05.960 something.

00:51:06.160 That's not going to change

00:51:06.820 the lawsuits, too.

00:51:07.620 I'll tell you that.

00:51:08.180 Let me tell you something,

00:51:09.140 Jeffy.

00:51:10.060 It's been them the whole

00:51:11.100 time.

00:51:11.940 They forced me to do it.

00:51:14.740 Oh, because, you know, we

00:51:15.800 own the company and we would

00:51:17.640 therefore force Glenn around

00:51:19.340 and make him do things.

00:51:20.600 That's an interesting

00:51:22.220 proposal there.

00:51:23.360 I would never just sue you

00:51:24.460 anyway, Glenn.

00:51:26.260 Oh, thank you.

00:51:27.520 That is so sweet.

00:51:28.500 So it'd be like, oh, we'd

00:51:31.000 be friends, all of us

00:51:32.000 together again.

00:51:33.600 Oh, whatever happened to

00:51:34.860 that team?

00:51:36.020 Last I saw, they were all

00:51:37.220 in court against each other.

00:51:38.800 It was nice.

00:51:40.140 At least they went out

00:51:40.980 together.

00:51:42.920 This is the Glenn Beck

00:51:46.000 program.

00:51:48.240 Mercury.

00:51:51.720 The Glenn Beck program.

00:51:53.760 Holy cow.

00:51:55.080 Just we're just getting we're

00:51:56.360 just getting a look at the

00:51:59.120 settlement for Bill O'Reilly

00:52:01.520 and they're saying now it's

00:52:02.800 how much?

00:52:04.320 Well, they're not saying

00:52:05.280 40 million is was the report

00:52:07.420 I read, but I bet it's going

00:52:08.520 to be more than that.

00:52:09.360 We're saying a staggering

00:52:10.020 amount.

00:52:10.500 He'll probably wind up getting

00:52:11.360 more than Ailes got to leave.

00:52:12.880 Ailes got 40 million to to

00:52:14.300 leave.

00:52:14.740 According to CNN, he just

00:52:15.880 bought a 36 million dollar

00:52:17.140 house in Florida.

00:52:18.080 Ailes.

00:52:18.540 Ailes.

00:52:18.980 Yeah.

00:52:19.560 Now, O'Reilly is paid.

00:52:21.400 Now, you know, didn't he have a

00:52:22.760 really nice house in New York?

00:52:24.640 Oh, yeah.

00:52:24.880 Oh, my gosh.

00:52:25.600 Yeah.

00:52:25.780 It's going to be expected to

00:52:26.620 have one.

00:52:28.060 Yeah.

00:52:28.520 Right across the water from

00:52:29.540 West Point.

00:52:30.500 It was on.

00:52:31.340 Yeah.

00:52:32.600 Unfreaking believable.

00:52:33.740 It had been reported that O'Reilly

00:52:36.500 was making 20 million dollars a

00:52:37.980 year.

00:52:38.220 They are now saying, new

00:52:40.320 reports, that it was 25 million

00:52:42.500 dollars a year.

00:52:43.760 Wow.

00:52:44.040 And that he will not get maybe

00:52:46.000 all of the money he's owed

00:52:47.120 because he just signed a new

00:52:48.160 contract, but he's going to get

00:52:48.860 a lot of it.

00:52:49.280 He'll get a good portion of it,

00:52:49.980 though.

00:52:50.040 Tens of millions.

00:52:50.880 Mm-hmm.

00:52:52.480 Hey, Bill.

00:52:54.320 I think you might be a relative

00:52:56.100 of mine.

00:52:58.700 Can I borrow some money?

00:53:01.200 Holy cow.

00:53:02.120 Why would you ever go to work?

00:53:05.400 Seriously.

00:53:06.000 You're 65, 67 years old.

00:53:08.220 Yeah.

00:53:08.800 Walk it away with 50 million

00:53:10.220 dollars.

00:53:10.480 Call it a day.

00:53:13.600 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:53:17.140 Mercury.

00:53:20.960 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:53:23.340 This doesn't sound bad.

00:53:25.100 Facebook wants to get inside your

00:53:26.520 brain so you can type

00:53:27.700 telepathically.

00:53:31.800 Yeah, I don't think that sounds

00:53:33.180 bad at all.

00:53:33.840 I can't imagine what could go

00:53:35.160 wrong with, you know, Facebook

00:53:37.100 being able to read our minds.

00:53:39.120 Right?

00:53:40.060 Am I right?

00:53:40.840 You're right.

00:53:41.680 Just being paranoid on anything

00:53:43.440 like that.

00:53:44.040 It would just save carpal tunnel

00:53:45.360 syndrome.

00:53:46.380 See?

00:53:47.000 We could just save one.

00:53:48.440 Just one person from having

00:53:49.600 carpal tunnel syndrome.

00:53:50.720 We should all be forced to do it.

00:53:52.080 We should all be forced to have

00:53:54.360 Facebook tap into our brains

00:53:57.000 telepathically.

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:53:58.420 Yeah.

00:53:59.260 That's good stuff.

00:54:00.060 I can't even imagine the stuff

00:54:01.260 that would be spilling out into

00:54:02.220 Jeffy's computer.

00:54:03.640 By the way, I think I'll open up

00:54:04.540 the phones here.

00:54:05.740 We have David Limbaugh on.

00:54:07.840 But if you want to talk about the

00:54:09.260 Bill O'Reilly thing, because I don't

00:54:11.360 think anybody else probably in talk

00:54:13.320 radio, at least the big national

00:54:14.340 shows, are probably going to do much

00:54:15.580 time talking about him.

00:54:18.220 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:54:18.960 But 888-727-BECK, because we've had a

00:54:24.280 lot of calls this morning off the air.

00:54:26.860 People are pretty devastated by him

00:54:28.980 leaving.

00:54:30.020 And it's kind of weird, because he's

00:54:31.540 not a movement conservative.

00:54:38.640 You know what I mean?

00:54:39.620 Bill's always frustrating to me, because

00:54:41.620 he's not a guy who's like, yeah, we're

00:54:44.420 going this way in the country.

00:54:45.940 He's not that guy.

00:54:47.320 He's a moderate.

00:54:51.740 I know for some reason the left likes

00:54:54.620 to say that he's just a monster, but...

00:54:57.480 An extremist.

00:54:58.760 Nothing could be further from the

00:54:59.880 truth.

00:55:00.080 Couldn't be further from the truth.

00:55:01.040 Not at all.

00:55:01.880 Uh-uh.

00:55:02.780 Uh-uh.

00:55:03.840 Helen, North Carolina.

00:55:06.720 Yes, I'm calling in with an idea that

00:55:10.180 could take care of this whole problem.

00:55:13.220 I think women in the workplace who

00:55:15.120 think they're all that should have

00:55:17.300 have to wear body cams.

00:55:19.000 We can't take their word for what was

00:55:21.300 said, he, she, and all that.

00:55:23.600 We just don't buy it.

00:55:25.500 Women know women.

00:55:27.220 I have watched things like this happen

00:55:30.300 in a job I had in a town in North

00:55:33.480 Carolina, where the women would make the men get

00:55:41.140 involved with them and then complain when

00:55:43.580 they did.

00:55:44.140 Right.

00:55:44.680 Oh, wow.

00:55:45.020 And when there was a lawsuit.

00:55:46.180 Well, I don't know.

00:55:47.460 No, I don't know.

00:55:48.360 Jeffy.

00:55:49.280 All right.

00:55:49.680 Helen, thank you very much.

00:55:51.020 I think you'd never win a lawsuit.

00:55:52.500 You know, that's really where we're getting

00:55:57.940 to, though, is everybody has to wear a body

00:55:59.700 cam.

00:56:00.140 It does vote well to, you know, because

00:56:01.960 you have to, you're supposed to believe

00:56:03.220 everything that everyone says, right?

00:56:05.600 You have the right to be believed, right?

00:56:07.700 No, you have a right to be heard.

00:56:09.420 No, that's not what Hillary says.

00:56:10.280 But you also have a right to face your

00:56:12.960 accuser.

00:56:13.700 Right.

00:56:14.040 And you have the right to be taken

00:56:14.940 seriously is really the way that should be

00:56:16.740 phrased.

00:56:17.160 Right.

00:56:17.260 And look, you know, obviously, we're

00:56:18.680 not going to, I mean, I wouldn't put it

00:56:20.520 past this society that everyone's wearing

00:56:22.080 body cams in a few years.

00:56:23.300 I mean, but I don't know.

00:56:24.140 No, no, no.

00:56:24.600 Can I tell you something?

00:56:27.420 Already.

00:56:29.000 We talked about this.

00:56:30.720 Already.

00:56:31.080 They have developed contact lenses that

00:56:36.040 are telescopic and you won't have to wear

00:56:40.320 glasses.

00:56:42.100 They're not only telescopic.

00:56:44.040 So, you know, I can improve my vision,

00:56:47.340 but they, but it also records everything

00:56:50.700 that I look at.

00:56:54.300 So if I, it's like, I can't remember what

00:56:56.340 it is, but if you blink twice or something,

00:56:58.320 it starts recording.

00:57:00.480 So you're not going to need, you're not

00:57:03.800 going to need a body cam.

00:57:05.500 I mean, if that's where we are now,

00:57:08.280 imagine five years, we're just all going

00:57:10.140 to be uploaded and give me your memory.

00:57:13.300 Yeah, it didn't happen that way.

00:57:15.040 Yes, it did.

00:57:15.860 I mean, and we are so far down that road

00:57:18.440 already.

00:57:18.920 I mean, we played a video the other day

00:57:20.320 on Pat and Stu in which a man in the middle

00:57:23.120 of nowhere in Canada was walking up to a store

00:57:26.260 and was run over by a deer.

00:57:28.840 Yes, I saw that.

00:57:29.820 And he said he was run over by a deer and no

00:57:32.240 one believed him until they saw the photographic

00:57:35.560 evidence of him being run over by a speeding deer.

00:57:38.720 You know, we used to play...

00:57:42.600 Grandma got run over by a deer.

00:57:43.920 Right, right, exactly happened.

00:57:45.580 We played Russian dash cam videos.

00:57:48.780 No, Russian dash cams, Russian dash cam videos.

00:57:51.700 The Russians were the first to do this.

00:57:53.060 And it was exactly because of the reason the caller

00:57:55.000 just said.

00:57:55.700 People were faking getting hit by cars.

00:57:58.540 They would run up to the front of the car and jump

00:58:00.300 on the hood and go, oh, and fall off.

00:58:03.060 And then they would take the insurance money

00:58:06.220 or pressure the person to pay them off right on

00:58:08.160 the scene.

00:58:09.120 So people started installing the dash cams.

00:58:10.980 And now there's tons of hilarious videos of people

00:58:13.960 walking up to stopped cars.

00:58:16.260 So that's why the Russians have the dash cam?

00:58:19.160 Yeah, and now they're everywhere in China.

00:58:20.320 And they're coming here.

00:58:21.820 They're here in large amounts.

00:58:24.040 I mean, there's big companies now investing a lot

00:58:26.180 in this so that you can see everything in front of

00:58:28.040 you so that when something happens that's not your

00:58:30.900 fault, you can prove that it was not your fault.

00:58:32.720 And do they run all the time or do you have to

00:58:34.380 turn them on?

00:58:35.080 Or do they turn on automatically when there's...

00:58:36.760 I think they run all the time but then delete

00:58:38.780 themselves as they go if you have nothing.

00:58:40.980 So you have to, you know, you get like a half

00:58:42.940 an hour of footage or an hour of footage and then

00:58:45.420 it would take the oldest footage and erase it.

00:58:48.860 Bottom line is like, you know, cameras, I mean,

00:58:51.180 nanny cams, you know, they are everywhere.

00:58:54.580 Not to mention everyone has a phone.

00:58:56.300 I mean, look at the United thing.

00:58:57.700 If you read a story about, hey, there was a person

00:59:00.560 taken off forcibly by a police officer because he

00:59:03.120 would not exit the plane and he wound up with a

00:59:05.320 bloody lip, that is a...

00:59:07.400 You would give United Airlines all the latitude

00:59:09.680 in the world.

00:59:10.280 Yeah, you'd say, wait a minute, he wouldn't get

00:59:11.660 off the plane?

00:59:12.360 I mean, I know that's annoying but you've got to

00:59:13.780 get off the plane.

00:59:14.600 And you also would have said if they dragged him

00:59:17.220 off, they had good reason to drag him off.

00:59:19.160 There was some...

00:59:20.160 And even if you might say, look, that doesn't

00:59:21.520 seem right but we don't know exactly what happened.

00:59:23.380 Well, the thing that made that into a big story

00:59:26.960 and the reason why the CEO is constantly apologizing

00:59:29.660 right now is because, A, he screamed like a baby

00:59:33.020 and, B, the woman across the aisle was saying,

00:59:37.880 oh my God, why are you doing that to him?

00:59:40.080 Now, look, that was a real thing and obviously

00:59:42.160 United handled it poorly.

00:59:44.540 And the police, honestly, also handled that poorly

00:59:46.940 and there's also mistakes attached to it.

00:59:49.040 However, generally speaking, if you go back and look

00:59:51.840 at that, without the camera, that's not much

00:59:53.640 of an incident.

00:59:54.440 Ray Rice has never played another game in the NFL.

00:59:57.580 And you know what?

00:59:58.060 I have no problem with someone who hits their wife

00:59:59.780 in an elevator of a casino getting never playing

01:00:01.780 another game.

01:00:02.980 But he was suspended for, what, two games?

01:00:04.880 Until that video came out.

01:00:06.040 Now he's never stepped foot on the field again.

01:00:08.960 I'm actually glad.

01:00:09.880 And I'm glad, too.

01:00:10.940 I'm not saying these are bad things.

01:00:12.080 I think a lot of times they're good things.

01:00:13.280 How many cops have been exonerated from things

01:00:15.740 they've been accused of because there's been video?

01:00:17.820 I argue all the time that it would be

01:00:19.840 the number one person who should want

01:00:22.020 body cams on police officers

01:00:23.740 are police officers.

01:00:25.320 Yep.

01:00:25.580 Because we all in our heads imagine,

01:00:27.380 well, why did that police take off

01:00:28.400 this unarmed man?

01:00:29.820 This unarmed man?

01:00:30.440 Well, if the guy's reaching for his pockets,

01:00:32.460 you can understand that.

01:00:33.600 That's why they have them.

01:00:34.440 And it's to show the truth of those incidents.

01:00:36.720 And a lot of times it's really good.

01:00:38.240 But we are in that world already.

01:00:39.980 We're already there.

01:00:40.780 But here's the problem.

01:00:41.840 You guys see the story today?

01:00:44.120 Probably not.

01:00:44.920 I think it's in France, actually.

01:00:46.380 A story from France on the 17 fake news reports

01:00:53.600 that have happened in the election.

01:00:56.960 And some of them are photographs.

01:01:00.040 One of them is the big socialist.

01:01:02.360 And he is, you know, he's for the people

01:01:04.560 and he's an average everyday guy, blah, blah, blah.

01:01:07.320 And he's standing in a crowd

01:01:09.560 and he's just standing with his arms folded like this.

01:01:12.300 And you see his watch.

01:01:15.040 And somebody has digitally put a very expensive,

01:01:19.360 like $26,000 Rolex on his arm.

01:01:23.500 And it's not an obvious Rolex.

01:01:25.140 It's not the big gold bling.

01:01:27.500 And so it looks understated

01:01:29.940 unless you know what that watch is.

01:01:32.000 And it was actually done

01:01:34.500 by somebody, I think, on his side

01:01:39.460 as a joke.

01:01:41.700 But then the other side took it

01:01:44.660 and ran with it.

01:01:45.940 And now people believe that it's real.

01:01:48.040 And so he looks like a total hypocrite.

01:01:51.440 And on every single candidate,

01:01:54.900 there is something like that

01:01:56.820 where they've doctored a picture,

01:01:58.600 took an old picture,

01:02:00.240 changed the picture,

01:02:02.000 I mean, you can't believe even pictures now, though.

01:02:05.800 Yeah, there's no currency left in the truth anymore.

01:02:08.120 There's none.

01:02:08.740 There's no value.

01:02:10.260 And that's why it's hard to do.

01:02:11.800 I mean, you see this more and more.

01:02:13.300 There's really,

01:02:14.160 there's a lot of people who want that to be the case.

01:02:17.620 I mean, we've seen that from, you know,

01:02:19.900 commentators that said,

01:02:20.900 we're in the post-fact area and it's wonderful.

01:02:23.260 This comes from...

01:02:24.000 That's not a world I want to live in.

01:02:25.400 This comes from, really,

01:02:27.860 the last generation

01:02:29.460 tolerating

01:02:30.960 character doesn't matter.

01:02:35.240 By tolerating character doesn't matter,

01:02:38.580 we moved down the line to,

01:02:41.320 well, what else can I lie about?

01:02:44.100 Now the truth doesn't matter.

01:02:46.320 Character mattered.

01:02:47.760 Because character,

01:02:49.660 the way you had character

01:02:50.940 was tell the truth

01:02:52.360 when it was hard to tell the truth.

01:02:55.060 Okay, well now,

01:02:56.160 let's try to not tell the truth

01:02:57.840 when it's easy

01:03:00.020 to not tell the truth

01:03:01.160 and see if anybody cares.

01:03:02.460 Okay, so it's not when it's hard,

01:03:03.880 not when it's easy.

01:03:05.440 Why tell the truth?

01:03:07.060 How about let's take it a step further?

01:03:09.340 How about making stuff up?

01:03:11.040 Yeah, if it helps you,

01:03:11.880 make it up.

01:03:12.340 If it helps.

01:03:13.800 I mean, Harry Reid said that.

01:03:15.740 Yeah.

01:03:16.300 He was proud of the lie,

01:03:18.220 the lie that he said

01:03:19.460 on the Senate floor.

01:03:20.960 I just got a call.

01:03:22.460 Mitt Romney,

01:03:22.920 hey, he didn't pay any taxes.

01:03:24.620 Now it's out there,

01:03:25.380 he's got an answer for it.

01:03:26.480 Then when he's called on it

01:03:27.920 a year or two later,

01:03:29.300 he's like,

01:03:29.620 well, he didn't get elected, did he?

01:03:31.040 Yeah, I have no problem.

01:03:32.040 That's how he justified it.

01:03:32.900 Right, I have no problem with that.

01:03:34.180 He didn't get elected.

01:03:36.040 The ends justify the means.

01:03:38.380 Character matters.

01:03:39.840 You know the line

01:03:40.640 that keeps coming to my head

01:03:41.720 every day now,

01:03:45.140 which concerns me

01:03:47.880 because it feels more,

01:03:50.460 it doesn't feel like

01:03:52.920 it's just kind of

01:03:53.600 popping into my head

01:03:54.700 for no reason.

01:03:56.500 It feels like a,

01:03:59.640 I don't know,

01:04:00.420 it just feels true to me.

01:04:03.920 With terror and slaughter return,

01:04:07.540 the gods of the copybook headings,

01:04:09.280 we have come so far away

01:04:13.240 from the truth

01:04:14.560 and we have lived our lives.

01:04:17.780 Look at what's happening

01:04:19.560 at Fox News.

01:04:22.120 We left Fox News

01:04:23.340 and what did I say?

01:04:24.680 Do you guys remember

01:04:25.260 what I said the last few weeks

01:04:27.360 or a few months we were there?

01:04:28.880 Remember I was like,

01:04:29.540 we have got to get out of here.

01:04:31.120 I don't know when it's going to happen,

01:04:32.840 but it's going to implode.

01:04:34.100 It's going to implode.

01:04:34.840 This whole place is going to implode

01:04:36.440 and we don't want to be

01:04:37.280 anywhere near this place.

01:04:38.900 I've said that many times.

01:04:39.740 I mean, almost every day.

01:04:41.100 I got so,

01:04:42.100 again, I see things

01:04:43.100 like a flat wall,

01:04:44.100 so when I feel things,

01:04:45.260 it feels like it's going to happen

01:04:47.380 right now,

01:04:48.520 this is what it was.

01:04:50.120 This place is going to come down

01:04:51.920 and when it comes crashing down,

01:04:53.440 it's going to be ugly

01:04:54.300 and we don't want to be

01:04:54.980 within 100 miles.

01:04:56.200 And those two Murdoch sons

01:04:57.660 have big plans

01:04:59.480 for continuing the destruction

01:05:01.220 of Fox News

01:05:01.840 as it currently exists.

01:05:03.760 They don't want anything to do

01:05:05.300 with the...

01:05:06.220 But what is the problem

01:05:07.520 with Fox News?

01:05:08.800 What was the problem?

01:05:09.980 Go back to that poem.

01:05:11.380 I thought of this yesterday

01:05:12.360 as I was thinking about

01:05:13.200 the implosion of Fox News.

01:05:16.740 When...

01:05:17.500 Well, lately it's been

01:05:18.940 that they've been all GOP.

01:05:20.380 When all men are paid

01:05:22.040 for existing

01:05:22.980 and no man must pay

01:05:25.340 for his sins,

01:05:27.320 that's where we're at.

01:05:30.180 All men are just paid

01:05:31.060 for existing.

01:05:32.060 Doesn't matter what you do.

01:05:33.760 Doesn't matter.

01:05:35.540 You know,

01:05:36.140 merit doesn't matter.

01:05:38.200 Honest hard work

01:05:39.300 doesn't matter.

01:05:40.160 Character doesn't matter.

01:05:41.260 You're just paid to exist.

01:05:42.620 And no man must pay

01:05:44.520 for his sins.

01:05:46.920 That's when

01:05:47.900 the truth is restored.

01:05:51.720 And the truth,

01:05:52.940 when it's restored,

01:05:54.000 it burns everything down

01:05:55.620 with terror

01:05:56.460 and slaughter return.

01:05:59.160 If you don't know

01:06:00.060 what I'm talking about,

01:06:01.160 just Google search

01:06:02.300 Gods of the Copybook Headings

01:06:04.280 by Rudyard Kipling.

01:06:05.780 It was written

01:06:06.700 right after World War I.

01:06:08.120 and he was warning

01:06:09.760 our time

01:06:11.580 and saying,

01:06:13.200 this is going to happen again.

01:06:15.060 Don't go down this road.

01:06:16.540 And we're doing it.

01:06:18.060 And I think we're approaching

01:06:19.220 the end of that poem.

01:06:20.460 When this thing resets,

01:06:24.680 when truth resets,

01:06:25.940 and it will,

01:06:27.480 we can't just keep living

01:06:29.240 these lies.

01:06:31.300 We can't go down

01:06:33.280 the road

01:06:34.200 of actually thinking

01:06:35.600 that we are God.

01:06:37.500 And look at,

01:06:38.860 look at what our

01:06:39.900 university said this week.

01:06:41.660 What university was it

01:06:42.760 that said

01:06:43.180 the truth is mythical?

01:06:45.840 That the truth

01:06:46.780 doesn't exist?

01:06:47.880 It's a myth?

01:06:50.400 Well, you know why that?

01:06:51.340 I saw that.

01:06:51.900 Oh, yeah.

01:06:53.640 Just Google search

01:06:54.680 that headline.

01:06:57.140 The truth is a myth.

01:06:59.600 Well, why is the truth

01:07:00.500 a myth?

01:07:01.980 Because whose truth is it?

01:07:04.200 Well, we used to agree

01:07:05.800 it was God's truth.

01:07:07.900 We don't agree

01:07:08.900 on truth anymore.

01:07:10.000 There is no truth anymore.

01:07:11.780 They're now teaching

01:07:12.780 in universities

01:07:13.520 that God,

01:07:14.760 I'm sorry,

01:07:15.200 that truth

01:07:16.340 is a myth.

01:07:18.960 That there is

01:07:19.500 no universal truth.

01:07:23.920 Pomona College?

01:07:25.120 Yes.

01:07:25.800 I got news for you.

01:07:27.520 There is truth.

01:07:29.120 There is truth.

01:07:29.940 And when it's restored,

01:07:31.680 it's going to hurt.

01:07:33.860 Welcome to the program.

01:07:51.340 David Limbaugh

01:07:51.800 is going to be

01:07:52.260 joining us here.

01:07:53.040 We'll talk to him

01:07:53.600 about the news of the day.

01:07:55.040 But he also has

01:07:56.480 a new book out

01:07:57.040 called

01:07:57.320 The True Jesus,

01:07:58.580 Uncovering the Divinity

01:07:59.560 of Christ

01:08:00.240 in the Gospel.

01:08:00.980 and he's going

01:08:03.580 to settle

01:08:03.940 a dispute

01:08:05.680 that's going on

01:08:06.360 right now

01:08:06.900 because

01:08:08.280 Jeffy

01:08:10.800 asked the other day

01:08:12.560 that, you know,

01:08:13.020 he said,

01:08:13.380 I have a shot

01:08:14.140 at heaven

01:08:14.520 just like everybody else.

01:08:16.060 No.

01:08:16.620 Oh, no.

01:08:17.080 No, no.

01:08:18.140 No.

01:08:18.560 And Pat and Stu

01:08:19.220 don't think so.

01:08:20.340 And I'm...

01:08:20.840 I mean, I got a shot, right?

01:08:21.900 There's no thinking about it.

01:08:22.860 I don't think so, Jeffy,

01:08:24.020 but I'm still with you.

01:08:25.160 I'm pitching for you,

01:08:26.040 but I don't think so.

01:08:26.840 I mean, we're not his judge.

01:08:27.840 I'm just saying

01:08:28.400 he's going to burn

01:08:28.940 in the fires of hell.

01:08:30.060 Right.

01:08:30.420 Right.

01:08:30.800 You know,

01:08:31.100 for all eternity.

01:08:31.980 Right.

01:08:32.460 It's really interesting.

01:08:32.960 Always burning,

01:08:33.740 never consumed.

01:08:34.760 Yeah.

01:08:34.920 Right.

01:08:35.240 I think the really

01:08:36.000 interesting question

01:08:36.660 is not whether

01:08:37.340 he's going to get in or not,

01:08:38.160 but whether God

01:08:38.860 will bother even

01:08:39.560 bringing him up there

01:08:40.180 to take a look.

01:08:41.200 Like, maybe he just

01:08:42.320 goes straight.

01:08:43.100 He's like,

01:08:43.380 I've seen enough.

01:08:44.060 Yeah, we don't...

01:08:44.740 You don't need to make

01:08:45.340 the trip.

01:08:45.860 Why don't you save

01:08:46.860 the airline mileage?

01:08:49.240 In fact, you might

01:08:49.700 live forever.

01:08:50.380 He might have just

01:08:51.360 forgotten about you.

01:08:52.940 He might just forget

01:08:53.600 to even take you.

01:08:54.580 You might just live forever.

01:08:55.680 I kind of feel

01:08:56.020 that way.

01:08:56.920 Kind of like a cockroach.

01:08:58.900 Indestructible.

01:09:00.000 Yeah.

01:09:00.460 Yeah.

01:09:01.080 Except still a roach.

01:09:02.600 Yeah.

01:09:03.020 Yeah.

01:09:04.020 So, we'll see

01:09:05.620 if David wants

01:09:06.280 to look under our fridge

01:09:07.200 and see what's

01:09:09.360 living down there.

01:09:10.460 The true Jesus,

01:09:12.220 David Limbaugh.

01:09:14.500 Where have I heard

01:09:15.020 that name before?

01:09:17.120 Coming up next.

01:09:18.280 The Blaze Radio Network.

01:09:45.100 The Blaze Radio Network.

01:09:45.160 On Demand.

01:09:51.420 A friend of the show

01:09:52.780 and a really thoughtful,

01:09:55.880 kind, and intelligent man,

01:09:59.100 believe it or not,

01:10:00.040 wants to be on this show.

01:10:02.420 David Limbaugh.

01:10:03.580 We start there right now.

01:10:04.960 I will make a stand.

01:10:08.380 I will raise my voice.

01:10:10.680 I will hold your hand.

01:10:11.960 Because we are one.

01:10:14.900 I will beat my drum.

01:10:17.180 I have made my choice.

01:10:19.420 We will overcome.

01:10:21.740 Because we are one.

01:10:23.780 The fusion of entertainment

01:10:25.520 and enlightenment.

01:10:27.600 This is

01:10:28.260 the Glenn Beck Program.

01:10:32.300 David Limbaugh,

01:10:33.220 has there ever been a time

01:10:34.300 where you thought to yourself,

01:10:36.400 this may be the bottom

01:10:37.780 of my career?

01:10:38.540 And was it today?

01:10:42.520 No.

01:10:43.860 Well, many moments.

01:10:45.260 Today is not the day.

01:10:46.500 No.

01:10:46.940 How are you?

01:10:47.720 Great.

01:10:48.060 How are you?

01:10:48.580 Very good.

01:10:49.180 Thanks for having me on.

01:10:50.020 Really a privilege.

01:10:51.340 Thank you, sir.

01:10:52.040 Thank you.

01:10:53.240 I want to delve

01:10:54.740 a little bit into you

01:10:56.340 first.

01:10:59.660 Because you are

01:11:01.040 so well known

01:11:02.260 as a political guy.

01:11:06.020 But that's not

01:11:07.360 what drives you.

01:11:09.460 And you've done now,

01:11:10.540 this is your third

01:11:11.780 on Christ, right?

01:11:13.240 Right.

01:11:13.860 And you're writing

01:11:14.780 really

01:11:15.860 comprehensive

01:11:18.460 books

01:11:19.400 on the gospel.

01:11:21.980 And,

01:11:22.360 I mean,

01:11:23.260 as you read this book,

01:11:24.680 The True Jesus,

01:11:27.020 it's like as if,

01:11:28.320 I mean,

01:11:29.120 it's a,

01:11:30.320 you read the gospel,

01:11:32.400 you're getting lost,

01:11:33.440 you don't know,

01:11:33.840 you're breaking it

01:11:35.360 all down

01:11:36.140 and explaining

01:11:37.520 what he meant

01:11:39.020 by it,

01:11:39.840 what is happening.

01:11:41.720 I mean,

01:11:42.180 you really delve

01:11:42.820 into that.

01:11:43.960 Tell me about

01:11:45.040 you and your journey.

01:11:47.740 I,

01:11:48.060 I started out,

01:11:51.480 we grew up

01:11:52.580 in a church,

01:11:53.780 it was a good church.

01:11:55.300 I think

01:11:56.220 the message

01:11:57.500 didn't really

01:11:58.140 catch on with me

01:11:59.060 and it's probably

01:11:59.600 because I was

01:12:00.220 so scatterbrained

01:12:01.240 and just

01:12:03.280 didn't get engaged

01:12:04.280 for so many years

01:12:05.220 and then

01:12:05.720 when I was

01:12:06.800 a young adult,

01:12:07.960 I always was

01:12:08.880 a seeker

01:12:09.460 and I always

01:12:09.980 believed in God

01:12:11.000 but I didn't

01:12:11.840 believe in the

01:12:12.320 God of the Bible.

01:12:13.260 Didn't disbelieve,

01:12:14.040 I just didn't,

01:12:14.900 wasn't engaged enough.

01:12:16.260 Okay,

01:12:16.440 what is that,

01:12:16.880 what is that,

01:12:17.780 what is the God

01:12:18.360 of the Bible

01:12:18.880 that you understood

01:12:19.620 then?

01:12:21.100 Well,

01:12:21.560 I didn't know

01:12:22.160 if Jesus was,

01:12:23.060 I remember,

01:12:23.860 is Jesus

01:12:24.520 the Son of God?

01:12:25.700 I didn't know

01:12:26.140 if he was just

01:12:26.720 a prophet

01:12:27.220 or deity.

01:12:28.040 So you believed,

01:12:28.680 you believed

01:12:29.200 that he did live.

01:12:30.280 Oh yes.

01:12:31.040 Yeah,

01:12:31.260 okay.

01:12:32.220 But truthfully,

01:12:33.380 that isn't even

01:12:34.340 a great accomplishment

01:12:35.220 intellectually

01:12:35.720 because I didn't engage,

01:12:37.040 I only believed it

01:12:37.740 because my parents

01:12:38.260 told me,

01:12:38.760 I didn't ever

01:12:39.540 even give it a thought

01:12:40.460 which is embarrassing

01:12:41.480 and shameful

01:12:42.040 but I didn't.

01:12:42.860 But that's the way

01:12:43.340 everybody is.

01:12:44.000 Yeah.

01:12:44.280 I mean on

01:12:44.660 more than just that,

01:12:46.280 I think most of us,

01:12:47.880 I credit my alcohol

01:12:50.380 and drug abuse

01:12:51.360 for waking me up

01:12:53.660 because I don't know

01:12:55.460 if I would have

01:12:55.940 ever found the truth

01:12:57.120 had I not burned

01:12:58.860 myself down to the ground.

01:13:00.000 It's so interesting

01:13:01.020 you say that

01:13:01.680 and I don't think

01:13:02.380 it's cliched.

01:13:03.180 I think people

01:13:03.960 that hit rock bottom

01:13:05.820 have a closer,

01:13:09.280 a better chance

01:13:10.200 of meeting Christ

01:13:11.320 because,

01:13:12.420 you know,

01:13:12.620 as they say,

01:13:13.000 there's no atheists

01:13:13.800 in foxholes.

01:13:14.840 Right.

01:13:15.000 When we're down

01:13:15.680 and if you have

01:13:16.980 a blessed life

01:13:17.820 and I've had

01:13:18.160 a pretty blessed life,

01:13:20.060 you don't,

01:13:21.480 you think you're

01:13:21.940 self-sufficient,

01:13:22.700 you're your own God.

01:13:23.620 I don't mean that

01:13:24.180 blasphemously,

01:13:25.100 I don't mean it literally

01:13:26.020 but you just think

01:13:27.880 why do I need one?

01:13:28.900 Why would I question

01:13:32.100 my life

01:13:33.060 if it's going well?

01:13:34.280 Yes.

01:13:34.820 I don't need anything else.

01:13:36.200 It's going well.

01:13:37.280 Exactly.

01:13:38.000 I've said this

01:13:38.660 and I'm so torn.

01:13:40.240 I speak at churches,

01:13:41.740 if I ever talk about

01:13:44.420 my conversion

01:13:45.280 and my life at all,

01:13:47.320 I'll say,

01:13:48.040 look,

01:13:48.620 I don't want,

01:13:50.040 kids,

01:13:51.160 I am not sending

01:13:52.440 the message,

01:13:53.700 burn yourself down

01:13:54.620 to the ground.

01:13:55.400 But I honestly,

01:13:57.180 I needed

01:13:57.940 the redemptive power

01:13:59.700 of Christ

01:14:00.740 so much.

01:14:02.400 I mean,

01:14:02.880 David,

01:14:03.140 I stood in the waters

01:14:03.900 of baptism,

01:14:04.800 Pat baptized me

01:14:05.660 and we wept

01:14:07.840 for how long

01:14:08.400 before you get

01:14:08.940 the words out

01:14:09.540 because he knew

01:14:11.000 what this would mean

01:14:12.540 to me

01:14:13.000 because he knew

01:14:13.460 I was taking it seriously

01:14:14.580 and I was crying

01:14:16.320 because I was crying

01:14:17.500 out to him

01:14:18.100 saying,

01:14:19.000 you're promising me,

01:14:20.780 you're promising me,

01:14:22.420 if you don't come through

01:14:24.460 with the peace

01:14:25.240 that you promised,

01:14:26.240 if I do

01:14:27.100 what you tell me

01:14:27.920 to do,

01:14:28.920 you're not real,

01:14:30.000 you're not God.

01:14:30.940 Right.

01:14:31.160 And when you really

01:14:34.220 need it like that,

01:14:36.560 oh my gosh,

01:14:37.740 the fullness of it

01:14:38.880 is amazing.

01:14:40.040 Yes,

01:14:40.200 and that's a great story

01:14:41.420 and great truth.

01:14:42.960 Seek and you shall find,

01:14:44.080 knock and the door

01:14:44.620 will be open to you.

01:14:45.320 It's open to everyone

01:14:46.300 and I make that point,

01:14:47.380 not I make it,

01:14:48.280 but I record that point

01:14:49.800 that the Gospels record

01:14:50.840 because it's so important.

01:14:52.260 People dismiss that.

01:14:54.040 But I will say this,

01:14:55.240 that even though

01:14:56.120 I was blessed,

01:14:57.520 continue to be blessed,

01:14:58.420 and we don't wish harm

01:15:00.380 upon ourselves

01:15:01.000 or other people

01:15:01.580 just so we can find.

01:15:02.580 Oh yeah.

01:15:02.900 But it's not the only way.

01:15:05.460 I also was always curious.

01:15:09.000 Why,

01:15:09.380 how did,

01:15:09.820 you know,

01:15:10.040 the big questions,

01:15:10.840 how did we get here

01:15:11.620 and all that?

01:15:12.100 And you look at the glory

01:15:13.140 of God's original design

01:15:16.100 and you say,

01:15:17.100 it has to be God

01:15:18.160 that created us,

01:15:19.440 but you don't know

01:15:19.840 what God's nature is,

01:15:21.000 you don't know anything about him,

01:15:21.780 you don't know about his son,

01:15:22.720 Jesus Christ.

01:15:23.380 It's intelligent design.

01:15:24.920 Intelligent design,

01:15:25.600 I meant to say.

01:15:26.760 So good.

01:15:27.260 And so I began seeking

01:15:29.820 and reading everything

01:15:31.080 I could find

01:15:31.860 and discovering

01:15:33.880 Christianity's truth claims

01:15:35.620 are backed up by evidence.

01:15:36.980 Did you,

01:15:37.440 did you read,

01:15:38.820 because like when I first started,

01:15:40.000 I read,

01:15:40.760 I mean,

01:15:40.980 I went to school

01:15:41.660 and Pat said to me,

01:15:42.940 you're going to Yale?

01:15:45.420 You're going to find the opposite.

01:15:46.820 And I did.

01:15:47.720 I found all the arguments

01:15:49.160 against God.

01:15:50.140 Absolutely.

01:15:50.600 But it was because

01:15:51.360 of those arguments

01:15:52.440 that I actually found him.

01:15:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:55.660 And I'm rock solid.

01:15:56.880 Did you go through

01:15:57.740 the period where you...

01:15:58.680 Totally.

01:15:59.440 Why would an all-loving God

01:16:00.980 who is all-powerful

01:16:03.140 permit evil in the world?

01:16:04.380 And of course,

01:16:05.080 now that's a reason,

01:16:07.240 it's a pillar of my faith

01:16:08.520 rather than a reason

01:16:09.620 for skepticism.

01:16:10.880 But it's Lee Strobel's story

01:16:12.420 in his case for Christ.

01:16:13.580 I hate to promote

01:16:14.060 another thing on this show,

01:16:16.040 but he's a friend

01:16:16.660 and I should.

01:16:17.660 It's a great movie.

01:16:18.600 Oh,

01:16:18.900 it's a moving movie.

01:16:19.700 And he set out

01:16:22.340 to disprove the gospel

01:16:23.700 and he ended up

01:16:24.620 being slayed by it.

01:16:26.440 That's an awesome story.

01:16:28.620 And it's really what happened

01:16:29.400 to me in a less dramatic way.

01:16:31.120 I didn't set out

01:16:31.880 to disprove it

01:16:32.520 because I really wanted

01:16:33.500 it to be true.

01:16:34.240 I was on the right team.

01:16:35.820 I wanted to be on that team.

01:16:37.560 I just couldn't embrace it

01:16:39.100 until I studied it

01:16:40.360 and the evidence

01:16:41.540 overwhelmed me.

01:16:42.900 So what was...

01:16:43.640 First of all,

01:16:44.140 was there a pivot

01:16:46.060 in your life?

01:16:46.720 Was there a moment

01:16:47.480 where you felt like

01:16:48.740 I've got to change?

01:16:50.620 Yes.

01:16:52.480 Well,

01:16:53.120 intellectually,

01:16:54.280 and I don't mean to say

01:16:55.160 I'm real brilliant

01:16:56.060 and this is...

01:16:56.540 I mean the intellectual

01:16:57.580 thinking through things

01:16:58.560 and studying

01:16:59.000 kind of intellectual.

01:16:59.960 Yeah.

01:17:01.220 Study books by Paul Little,

01:17:03.160 Know What and Why You Believe,

01:17:04.300 Josh McDowell,

01:17:05.140 Norman Geiser,

01:17:05.800 all the great apologists

01:17:07.420 and reading the Bible itself.

01:17:09.560 The real pivotal moment

01:17:11.120 intellectually

01:17:12.180 was when I was exposed

01:17:13.720 to the Messianic prophecies.

01:17:15.140 The unbelievable prophecies

01:17:17.140 that were written

01:17:18.100 in many cases

01:17:19.100 hundreds of years

01:17:19.880 before Christ's birth

01:17:21.340 and he realized all of them.

01:17:23.500 He fulfilled all those prophecies.

01:17:24.380 You talk about some of them.

01:17:25.440 Yes.

01:17:25.920 Absolutely.

01:17:26.620 And so it was after that

01:17:28.320 that I trusted Christ.

01:17:30.300 But I'm saying intellectually,

01:17:31.520 I had to get over these hurdles

01:17:32.540 so that I could open up.

01:17:34.980 Isn't it amazing

01:17:35.800 how so many people dismiss...

01:17:40.140 Just look at the prophecies

01:17:43.600 of Israel being restored.

01:17:45.880 At no point in human history

01:17:49.120 has anything like Israel

01:17:51.300 ever happened.

01:17:52.840 Never.

01:17:53.820 And then to add on top of it

01:17:56.020 that it was all foretold

01:17:57.860 thousands of years ago.

01:17:59.720 It's destruction.

01:18:01.340 It's scattering.

01:18:03.140 It's bringing back together

01:18:04.800 from all corners of the earth.

01:18:06.580 It's reestablishment.

01:18:07.140 I mean, that's incredible

01:18:09.560 in and of itself.

01:18:10.620 And people dismiss it.

01:18:11.920 It gives you goosebumps.

01:18:12.880 And when God set apart

01:18:16.580 or called Abram,

01:18:18.040 Abram at the time,

01:18:19.080 he later named Abraham,

01:18:21.260 go to the land I will show you.

01:18:23.340 I will make a great nation

01:18:24.560 out of you.

01:18:25.400 I will bless all people

01:18:26.480 through you.

01:18:27.300 So he sent Abraham

01:18:28.320 from the land of the Chaldeans

01:18:30.300 or of the Chaldeans

01:18:31.320 to Canaan.

01:18:33.220 And he formed a nation

01:18:34.360 through Abraham, Isaac, Jacob

01:18:38.080 and David, the line of kings.

01:18:40.860 And he said he would bless

01:18:41.740 all people.

01:18:42.320 And so Christ,

01:18:43.100 you can trace his lineage

01:18:44.100 through David,

01:18:45.200 through Abraham,

01:18:45.680 all the way back.

01:18:47.000 And he will reign forever

01:18:48.900 in the promised land.

01:18:51.260 And he came originally

01:18:52.420 to the promised land,

01:18:53.140 which was guaranteed to Israel

01:18:54.360 as an everlasting possession.

01:18:56.000 And as you say,

01:18:56.800 they were dispersed

01:18:57.500 many times.

01:18:59.320 And after 2,000 years,

01:19:01.040 most nations

01:19:02.140 lose their identity,

01:19:04.040 national identity

01:19:04.640 after three, four,

01:19:05.540 five generations.

01:19:06.540 After 2,000 years,

01:19:07.600 the Israelis,

01:19:08.620 the Israelites

01:19:09.400 came back to the people,

01:19:10.880 to that land.

01:19:11.920 And in 1948,

01:19:13.140 it was reestablished,

01:19:14.360 as you know.

01:19:15.300 We haven't been scattered

01:19:16.780 and we've almost lost

01:19:18.460 our identity.

01:19:19.440 Yes.

01:19:19.840 And then those five

01:19:21.220 or six Arab nations

01:19:22.240 around Israel

01:19:23.200 tried to destroy

01:19:24.700 that tiny little nation

01:19:25.760 and it reared up

01:19:26.980 and kicked their rear ends.

01:19:28.220 Is that not totally exciting?

01:19:29.980 Is that not God at work?

01:19:31.520 And they kept trying

01:19:32.240 to do it,

01:19:32.680 67, 73.

01:19:34.380 And Israel,

01:19:35.200 that's why I know,

01:19:36.240 I was just in Israel

01:19:37.400 probably 10 days ago

01:19:39.520 and I came back.

01:19:40.080 It's the first time

01:19:40.420 I've ever been,

01:19:41.120 which is, as you know,

01:19:42.020 a spectacular experience.

01:19:43.120 How did you,

01:19:43.860 how did you write

01:19:45.300 three books on the Bible

01:19:46.640 and now is the first time

01:19:48.460 you went to Jerusalem

01:19:49.380 and Israel?

01:19:49.920 Yeah, it's amazing,

01:19:50.760 isn't it?

01:19:50.940 I don't know.

01:19:51.860 I rely so heavily

01:19:53.340 on what other people,

01:19:55.060 the other people's studies.

01:19:56.600 It's totally different.

01:19:58.800 It's a game changer in life.

01:20:01.780 Yes.

01:20:02.680 If I could,

01:20:03.400 if I could have,

01:20:05.680 be king and say,

01:20:06.800 we're going to spend money

01:20:07.540 on one thing,

01:20:09.220 it would be,

01:20:10.520 everybody should go to Israel.

01:20:11.820 Yeah.

01:20:12.080 It will change your life,

01:20:13.500 your understanding

01:20:14.620 of the world,

01:20:15.840 your understanding

01:20:16.680 of your place in it,

01:20:18.740 God, everything.

01:20:20.340 Totally changes.

01:20:21.700 Yes.

01:20:21.940 Totally changes.

01:20:22.660 And this idea,

01:20:24.800 see,

01:20:25.080 that Israel ought to

01:20:26.200 give back some of the land,

01:20:27.420 the land that they took

01:20:29.300 after being attacked,

01:20:30.780 the Golan Heights

01:20:31.540 where they can see Syria

01:20:33.240 and the,

01:20:33.560 they can't afford

01:20:34.680 to give that land back

01:20:35.580 because they don't want,

01:20:36.980 they don't want to destroy

01:20:37.920 other nations.

01:20:38.600 Other nations want

01:20:39.260 to destroy them.

01:20:40.040 Jeffy and I stood

01:20:40.860 at the top of the Golan Heights,

01:20:42.060 you know that cliff?

01:20:43.260 Yes.

01:20:43.800 And we stood up there

01:20:45.340 and everybody's talking

01:20:46.120 about the Golan Heights,

01:20:46.720 they should give the lions back

01:20:47.680 until you stand on that land.

01:20:49.780 It's unbelievable.

01:20:50.360 Yeah, you stand there

01:20:51.220 and you're like,

01:20:51.980 that's suicide.

01:20:53.140 You cannot do it.

01:20:54.800 It's suicide.

01:20:55.940 Plus, Israel tried

01:20:57.340 to give back

01:20:58.300 some of the land

01:20:59.300 and establish

01:21:01.000 a two-state solution

01:21:02.260 and they reject it.

01:21:03.500 They want to be victims.

01:21:04.800 No offense to any

01:21:05.500 people out there listening,

01:21:07.280 but it's a fact.

01:21:08.840 And I don't understand

01:21:11.060 why we go through

01:21:11.960 this charade.

01:21:13.180 Nobody even knows

01:21:14.180 that they were given

01:21:15.280 a country at the same time.

01:21:16.540 Palestine was set up

01:21:17.680 when Israel was set up.

01:21:18.960 Yes.

01:21:19.360 And they rejected that.

01:21:20.200 And very few people

01:21:21.280 even know that.

01:21:22.900 Did you see the,

01:21:24.460 I hate to promote

01:21:25.580 somebody else's stuff

01:21:26.800 just like David did,

01:21:28.060 but what the heck,

01:21:28.800 David just did.

01:21:29.240 Don't mention the name.

01:21:30.440 Yeah,

01:21:30.840 Dennis Prager,

01:21:32.420 Prager University.

01:21:33.260 He's awesome.

01:21:34.060 He is so awesome.

01:21:35.220 Yeah.

01:21:35.440 With that guy,

01:21:36.300 he just had lunch in town

01:21:37.940 and he was doing

01:21:38.480 a fundraiser for,

01:21:39.540 you know,

01:21:40.200 his university.

01:21:41.580 And so I went,

01:21:43.260 he didn't know

01:21:43.660 I was going to show up

01:21:44.440 and I,

01:21:44.900 we bought a table

01:21:46.040 and we all went

01:21:46.840 from the office

01:21:48.680 and I'm sitting there

01:21:50.260 and the look in his eyes

01:21:51.620 when he walked out

01:21:52.260 and he was like,

01:21:53.760 Glenn Beck.

01:21:55.120 And I said to him,

01:21:56.520 what you've done,

01:21:58.000 Dennis,

01:21:58.480 I can only dream of doing.

01:22:00.520 I feel like a worm

01:22:01.980 when I look at what,

01:22:03.360 how he's actually

01:22:04.540 impacting the culture.

01:22:05.900 But he did something

01:22:07.220 on Israel

01:22:08.180 about the two-state solution.

01:22:11.460 Who actually is trying

01:22:12.840 to settle it

01:22:13.540 and who wants

01:22:14.560 to be a victim?

01:22:15.500 Yes.

01:22:15.780 And it's brilliant

01:22:16.480 in three minutes.

01:22:17.500 In fact,

01:22:18.060 Dennis Prager

01:22:18.660 is one of the clearest thinkers

01:22:20.340 and communicators.

01:22:21.980 I resent him.

01:22:23.520 You know what it is?

01:22:24.460 You know what it is,

01:22:25.440 honestly,

01:22:25.800 I think.

01:22:26.620 You spend much time

01:22:27.480 with Jewish people.

01:22:28.440 Oh yeah.

01:22:29.260 Oh yeah.

01:22:29.640 Their intellect,

01:22:31.140 because of the way

01:22:32.580 they learn the Torah,

01:22:33.880 I totally agree.

01:22:34.980 Is...

01:22:35.380 How about Ben Shapiro?

01:22:36.820 Yeah.

01:22:37.280 My buddy.

01:22:38.420 I hate him too.

01:22:41.220 You know,

01:22:41.900 the word Israel

01:22:42.600 means to wrestle

01:22:43.580 with the Lord.

01:22:44.540 And that is

01:22:45.680 in their heritage.

01:22:47.040 They wrestle.

01:22:48.780 And so,

01:22:49.420 intellectually,

01:22:50.360 they're just rigorous.

01:22:51.540 In fact,

01:22:52.060 Ben Shapiro told me

01:22:53.200 that his,

01:22:54.420 I hope I'm misquoting him

01:22:56.120 and I apologize,

01:22:56.840 Ben,

01:22:56.940 if I am,

01:22:57.440 that his rigorous training

01:22:59.220 in the Torah

01:22:59.980 and reading it

01:23:00.800 is really what

01:23:02.320 helped him

01:23:02.920 through Harvard Law School,

01:23:03.980 make Harvard Law School

01:23:05.260 easier.

01:23:06.100 Oh yeah.

01:23:06.320 Of course,

01:23:06.520 he's so smart

01:23:07.080 it wouldn't have been

01:23:07.680 mattered.

01:23:08.680 I will tell you,

01:23:09.660 I think there's a direct

01:23:10.320 correlation between

01:23:11.620 smart and Torah school.

01:23:13.540 I think there's

01:23:14.180 a good point.

01:23:14.980 Plus,

01:23:15.300 they're disciplined too.

01:23:16.360 So disciplined.

01:23:17.200 Yeah.

01:23:18.260 Wow,

01:23:18.620 that sounded racist,

01:23:19.680 didn't it?

01:23:20.400 At least it was

01:23:21.040 a compliment.

01:23:23.160 All right,

01:23:23.780 back with David Limbaugh.

01:23:24.820 His new book

01:23:25.520 is The True Jesus,

01:23:27.160 Uncovering the Divinity

01:23:28.220 of Christ in the Gospel.

01:23:30.460 It is,

01:23:30.900 we were talking yesterday

01:23:31.940 in the hallway

01:23:32.480 about Dominic Crossan.

01:23:33.700 It's kind of the opposite

01:23:35.180 of Dominic Crossan

01:23:36.620 who,

01:23:37.600 remember Stu,

01:23:38.180 we had him on

01:23:38.860 one Easter

01:23:39.660 years ago

01:23:41.540 and we had him on

01:23:43.960 and I thought he had

01:23:45.980 a really interesting

01:23:47.060 take at things

01:23:48.180 and yada yada

01:23:49.600 and it was right

01:23:50.240 before Easter

01:23:50.800 and we got to

01:23:51.740 the end of the interview

01:23:52.680 and I said,

01:23:53.560 so,

01:23:54.940 do you believe

01:23:58.880 the crucifixion?

01:23:59.960 He's like,

01:24:00.260 oh no,

01:24:00.600 none of that ever happened.

01:24:02.560 And I remember

01:24:03.900 being on the air

01:24:04.380 like,

01:24:04.860 happy Easter everybody.

01:24:06.400 I mean,

01:24:07.300 crazy.

01:24:08.440 Can you explain to me

01:24:09.420 why a guy like

01:24:10.700 John Dominic Crossan

01:24:11.880 and I've been exposed

01:24:12.660 to him early on

01:24:13.420 and this isn't a cut,

01:24:15.120 I don't know the guy personally,

01:24:16.160 why does he devote

01:24:17.040 his whole life

01:24:17.760 to undermining something?

01:24:19.640 It's like he's got demons

01:24:20.980 and I don't know him,

01:24:21.660 I'm just saying,

01:24:22.140 a guy like him,

01:24:24.560 isn't it curious

01:24:25.920 they would devote

01:24:26.540 their whole life

01:24:27.120 to something

01:24:27.480 they don't believe in,

01:24:28.600 to disbelieve it?

01:24:29.540 Are Christians

01:24:30.120 going around

01:24:30.560 killing people?

01:24:31.280 No,

01:24:31.580 so what's his motivation?

01:24:34.040 Christianity is a

01:24:35.340 positive force for the,

01:24:36.760 why do they leave it alone?

01:24:38.540 I don't know,

01:24:39.100 he's one of the theologians

01:24:40.560 for the Catholic Church

01:24:41.640 though,

01:24:41.900 isn't he?

01:24:42.220 He's involved

01:24:42.960 with part of,

01:24:45.180 you know,

01:24:45.420 that kind of that

01:24:46.020 I don't know,

01:24:47.060 that believing,

01:24:48.060 non-believing,

01:24:48.960 we believe

01:24:49.780 but we don't believe

01:24:50.720 in any of it

01:24:51.320 kind of part

01:24:51.860 the Catholics

01:24:52.580 I know

01:24:52.960 totally do believe

01:24:54.120 and they would

01:24:54.860 reject his

01:24:55.740 Oh no,

01:24:56.500 the Catholics

01:24:57.040 I know too.

01:24:57.880 Yeah,

01:24:58.320 he's an outright

01:25:00.760 atheist,

01:25:01.440 isn't he?

01:25:02.180 Or am I wrong?

01:25:03.200 No,

01:25:03.340 I don't think he is,

01:25:04.200 he just doesn't believe

01:25:05.060 in,

01:25:05.700 he doesn't believe

01:25:06.520 in the,

01:25:06.920 what he calls

01:25:07.400 magic tricks.

01:25:08.200 Okay,

01:25:08.880 okay,

01:25:08.940 he doesn't believe,

01:25:09.500 he denies the supernatural

01:25:10.580 and yet,

01:25:11.340 and yet,

01:25:11.800 if he believes in God

01:25:12.580 he has to believe

01:25:13.240 God created everything

01:25:14.440 and nothing is a bigger miracle

01:25:15.700 than snapping the world

01:25:17.060 into existence,

01:25:17.920 breathing the world

01:25:18.700 in existence.

01:25:19.720 I mean,

01:25:20.520 this is,

01:25:21.040 you don't believe

01:25:21.580 in the supernatural,

01:25:22.740 well where did this come from?

01:25:25.100 I mean,

01:25:25.600 where did it start?

01:25:26.540 How did it start?

01:25:27.340 There's something

01:25:27.960 that we don't understand.

01:25:29.720 We call it supernatural

01:25:30.780 because we don't

01:25:31.840 understand it.

01:25:32.520 You go back,

01:25:33.600 you know,

01:25:34.160 200 years with a flashlight,

01:25:35.840 they're going to think

01:25:36.520 it's supernatural.

01:25:37.300 Well,

01:25:37.420 that's who we are

01:25:38.300 compared to God.

01:25:39.140 In fact,

01:25:39.360 we're not even that.

01:25:40.140 We're the cavemen

01:25:41.040 and it's a searchlight,

01:25:43.120 you know,

01:25:44.380 for us.

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01:26:02.700 David Limbaugh is here.

01:26:06.100 He's the author

01:26:06.960 of a new book,

01:26:07.820 The True Jesus,

01:26:09.020 Uncovering the Divinity

01:26:09.880 of Christ in the Gospel.

01:26:11.620 The one thing,

01:26:12.540 you know,

01:26:12.700 I went to school,

01:26:13.500 as we told you,

01:26:14.460 and I was looking

01:26:16.820 for the truth.

01:26:17.660 I just want the truth.

01:26:18.740 And so I took

01:26:19.780 the history departments

01:26:23.040 at Yale,

01:26:24.340 the history of

01:26:25.900 what's called

01:26:26.860 early Christology,

01:26:28.100 the making of

01:26:28.740 the image of Christ.

01:26:30.100 Well,

01:26:30.360 that'll make you

01:26:30.980 a non-believer

01:26:32.680 so fast

01:26:33.660 your head will spin.

01:26:34.920 But what it did do

01:26:36.540 was give me

01:26:37.700 a rock-solid understanding

01:26:39.580 of who this guy was

01:26:41.420 as a man.

01:26:43.260 You'd add the theology

01:26:44.840 on top of it,

01:26:46.460 but to know

01:26:47.520 how things worked

01:26:50.480 back then,

01:26:51.520 what the world

01:26:52.380 was like

01:26:53.020 when he was in it,

01:26:54.680 and why the Gospels

01:26:57.180 were sometimes

01:26:57.900 written the way

01:26:58.740 they were,

01:26:59.680 that's kind of

01:27:00.340 what you're doing here

01:27:01.180 except you don't

01:27:01.980 throw out all

01:27:02.660 the divinity stuff.

01:27:04.000 Right,

01:27:04.500 right.

01:27:05.340 And,

01:27:05.720 yeah,

01:27:06.280 the Gospels

01:27:08.220 do portray Christ

01:27:09.500 as a fully human

01:27:11.380 and fully divine,

01:27:12.240 and we've said that,

01:27:13.040 but it's,

01:27:14.480 when you really

01:27:15.540 study them,

01:27:16.260 you see his humanity.

01:27:17.400 He weeped over Jerusalem,

01:27:18.760 and he walked

01:27:20.360 among the people,

01:27:21.340 and even when he came

01:27:22.500 back in bodily

01:27:24.060 resurrection form,

01:27:25.160 they touched him.

01:27:26.000 He was real.

01:27:26.620 He wasn't some

01:27:27.240 spirit mystical creature.

01:27:28.760 How did they not know?

01:27:30.000 And I know you

01:27:30.380 address this in the book.

01:27:32.220 Come on.

01:27:33.800 Yeah.

01:27:34.420 How did they not know?

01:27:37.180 Well,

01:27:38.180 I think the Jewish

01:27:39.700 Messianic expectation

01:27:40.820 was a military

01:27:41.880 and political conqueror,

01:27:43.260 and that's what

01:27:44.040 the prophecies

01:27:44.820 mostly said.

01:27:46.580 There was also

01:27:47.320 a smattering

01:27:48.080 of prophecies,

01:27:50.960 quite a few prophecies,

01:27:52.040 about a suffering servant.

01:27:53.800 You can read

01:27:54.120 Isaiah 53

01:27:55.100 and Psalm 22

01:27:56.520 and give you

01:27:57.200 goosebumps again

01:27:57.960 about how accurately

01:27:59.240 they portray

01:28:00.120 Christ's crucifixion.

01:28:02.120 But,

01:28:03.260 according to Michael Heiser,

01:28:04.820 who's a PhD

01:28:05.520 and a friend of mine

01:28:06.340 through studying

01:28:07.360 this stuff,

01:28:08.920 it was presented

01:28:09.740 in a mosaic

01:28:10.480 and not necessarily

01:28:12.440 directly.

01:28:13.500 So only after looking

01:28:14.600 through the New Testament

01:28:15.600 lenses can we see

01:28:16.600 that the suffering servant

01:28:17.640 was also going

01:28:19.140 to be the Messiah,

01:28:20.420 and it is really Jesus.

01:28:21.700 But they expected

01:28:22.420 the Messiah

01:28:23.120 to be someone

01:28:24.340 who would conquer

01:28:25.420 the Roman oppressors.

01:28:26.620 So I have a theory

01:28:27.720 on Judas

01:28:30.820 that I'd like to share

01:28:31.900 because I know

01:28:32.240 you cover Judas.

01:28:33.600 Right.

01:28:33.700 We'll get into that.

01:28:35.520 David Limbaugh,

01:28:36.040 The True Jesus,

01:28:37.480 available at bookstores

01:28:38.660 right now

01:28:39.740 and online.

01:28:40.600 The True Jesus

01:28:41.180 by David Limbaugh.

01:28:42.680 More with him on this

01:28:43.780 and news of the day

01:28:45.020 coming up.

01:28:46.620 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:28:49.920 Mercury.

01:28:50.360 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:28:56.500 David Limbaugh,

01:28:57.480 we're just having

01:28:58.000 a conversation off air.

01:28:59.020 We want to get back

01:28:59.540 to his book,

01:29:00.120 The True Jesus.

01:29:01.260 We're just having

01:29:01.760 a conversation about

01:29:02.640 the flash of all things

01:29:04.240 and how our kids,

01:29:05.860 I have a 13-year-old,

01:29:06.800 your son is 12.

01:29:07.740 Yes.

01:29:08.520 Our kids are experts

01:29:10.240 about everything

01:29:12.340 that is not important.

01:29:14.380 Yes.

01:29:14.920 I mean,

01:29:15.340 absolutely everything.

01:29:16.860 I worry,

01:29:17.320 I don't know about you,

01:29:17.860 but I look at my kid

01:29:19.120 and part of me

01:29:20.920 is so glad

01:29:21.920 he's not worried

01:29:23.460 about the things

01:29:24.080 I'm worried about

01:29:24.820 right now.

01:29:25.300 Yeah.

01:29:26.700 But I do worry it,

01:29:28.600 I mean,

01:29:28.960 you know,

01:29:29.140 I'm a catastrophist.

01:29:30.220 I do see my son,

01:29:31.940 you know,

01:29:32.380 in an end times

01:29:33.780 sort of apocalyptic

01:29:35.040 Blade Runner situation

01:29:36.740 where he's like,

01:29:38.340 I don't know,

01:29:39.380 is there a gaming system

01:29:41.020 to this?

01:29:41.840 I mean,

01:29:42.140 this is just like

01:29:43.400 episode 142,

01:29:45.040 section B.

01:29:46.100 Oh, yeah.

01:29:46.480 He knows every episode

01:29:48.480 of Doctor Who,

01:29:49.860 The Flash,

01:29:50.580 he can tell me,

01:29:51.140 Dad,

01:29:51.380 that's Earth 18.

01:29:52.940 I know.

01:29:53.420 Like,

01:29:53.660 oh, okay.

01:29:54.620 And they're not showing off,

01:29:55.680 it's just part of their makeup.

01:29:57.120 But I'm thinking

01:29:58.120 there's possibly

01:29:59.200 that these skills

01:30:00.360 that,

01:30:02.340 as Napoleon Dynamite

01:30:03.520 would say,

01:30:04.020 these skills

01:30:04.820 they can apply later

01:30:05.940 because they really

01:30:06.900 are intelligent.

01:30:07.740 This stuff is

01:30:08.500 heady stuff,

01:30:09.520 it just doesn't matter,

01:30:10.440 but it's heady stuff.

01:30:11.360 Yeah,

01:30:11.500 no,

01:30:11.920 I mean,

01:30:12.900 and they know it

01:30:13.980 inside and out.

01:30:14.820 Yes, they do.

01:30:15.380 The gaming thing,

01:30:15.760 I just keep thinking,

01:30:16.920 well,

01:30:17.380 I know he'll be

01:30:17.880 on the right side

01:30:18.460 of a drone.

01:30:19.520 I know.

01:30:20.220 He'll be flying the drone.

01:30:21.400 With all due respect,

01:30:22.240 I'm so glad

01:30:22.780 he's in school

01:30:24.340 and not listening

01:30:24.940 to your show right now.

01:30:28.180 So,

01:30:28.660 David,

01:30:29.000 David Limbaugh

01:30:30.400 wrote,

01:30:30.860 The True Jesus

01:30:31.620 Uncovering the Divinity

01:30:32.700 of Christ

01:30:33.180 in the Gospel,

01:30:33.760 and he writes it

01:30:34.220 in such a way

01:30:34.740 that it's really,

01:30:35.520 really fascinating,

01:30:36.100 especially if you know

01:30:37.780 the Gospels,

01:30:38.640 it's great,

01:30:39.420 but even if you don't,

01:30:40.580 it really helps you

01:30:41.740 get yourself into it

01:30:43.320 and really understand

01:30:44.440 how it happened,

01:30:46.600 what happened,

01:30:47.220 et cetera.

01:30:50.060 Judas,

01:30:50.740 I look at Judas,

01:30:51.780 and I always grew up

01:30:53.360 being taught that Judas

01:30:54.380 was, you know,

01:30:55.220 with the devil

01:30:55.860 and he was,

01:30:56.840 you know,

01:30:57.200 evil and everything else.

01:30:59.040 I look at Judas

01:31:00.080 in a totally different light now.

01:31:02.100 I look at Judas

01:31:03.120 as a real zealot

01:31:05.580 because that's,

01:31:07.380 you know,

01:31:07.520 if you read Josephus,

01:31:08.580 that's the way

01:31:09.340 they describe Jesus.

01:31:10.840 He was one of the zealots

01:31:11.760 up in the mountains.

01:31:12.660 Right.

01:31:12.900 There were a lot of people

01:31:13.900 that were claiming

01:31:14.540 that they were the Messiah

01:31:15.640 at the time

01:31:16.380 and they lived up

01:31:17.600 in the mountains

01:31:18.000 and they'd come down

01:31:19.080 and, you know,

01:31:20.300 preach repentance

01:31:21.060 and everything else.

01:31:22.800 And so they were looking

01:31:24.760 for a warrior

01:31:26.260 and I think Judas

01:31:28.440 was one of those guys

01:31:29.460 and when he realized

01:31:30.500 we're coming into town

01:31:32.660 and you're not

01:31:34.880 you're not going

01:31:36.800 to overthrow this.

01:31:38.200 You're not the guy.

01:31:39.840 Yeah.

01:31:40.360 I think he was

01:31:42.080 so disillusioned

01:31:44.400 because he couldn't

01:31:45.360 understand

01:31:46.120 the message of peace

01:31:48.300 and of changing the world

01:31:49.680 the way Christ

01:31:50.560 was looking at it

01:31:51.460 that he thought

01:31:53.600 you've betrayed me,

01:31:55.040 you've lied to me.

01:31:57.020 And so you kind of

01:31:58.060 look at Judas and say,

01:31:59.580 I mean,

01:31:59.780 not that he was a good guy

01:32:00.580 but I understand.

01:32:02.900 I understand

01:32:04.020 how he got there.

01:32:05.400 Yeah.

01:32:05.940 And I have no idea

01:32:07.880 if what he was like

01:32:10.360 and it's a plausible theory

01:32:11.900 to me,

01:32:12.420 not that I'm any arbiter

01:32:13.540 of plausible theories

01:32:14.600 but I don't know

01:32:16.280 any scriptural evidence

01:32:17.380 for that

01:32:17.920 and I pretty much

01:32:19.760 rely on that

01:32:20.440 but there may be...

01:32:20.980 But there's no scriptural

01:32:21.900 evidence of any other theory.

01:32:23.680 No, no, no.

01:32:24.220 I'm not saying...

01:32:24.620 Yeah, absolutely.

01:32:25.600 And it's a fascinating thought

01:32:26.860 because...

01:32:28.320 But I will say

01:32:28.840 another point I want to make

01:32:29.620 about Judas

01:32:30.060 since you brought him up.

01:32:31.100 I don't really fault him

01:32:34.280 in one way either.

01:32:35.860 Jesus was born to die.

01:32:38.300 He and the Holy Spirit

01:32:39.980 and the Father

01:32:40.920 created us

01:32:42.260 knowing we were going to fall

01:32:43.400 and knowing that

01:32:44.960 the Father would have

01:32:45.960 to send the Son

01:32:46.760 to earth

01:32:49.780 to become a human being

01:32:50.760 and to die for our sins.

01:32:52.220 So he was the only person

01:32:53.460 as Bishop Fulton Sheen said

01:32:55.300 who ever lived his life backwards

01:32:57.740 from the cross forward.

01:32:59.420 It was all about the cross.

01:33:00.260 He was born to die.

01:33:01.720 So if Judas hadn't

01:33:02.660 betrayed him

01:33:03.500 someone else would

01:33:04.620 in God's providential sovereignty.

01:33:07.140 Now, that doesn't mean

01:33:08.180 Judas was a good guy

01:33:09.020 for doing it

01:33:09.700 and that doesn't mean

01:33:11.260 he didn't have free will

01:33:12.620 in doing it

01:33:13.120 but we owe him

01:33:14.240 because if Christ

01:33:16.160 had not died

01:33:17.000 we wouldn't be able to live.

01:33:18.940 And I say that

01:33:19.500 kind of a mixed thing.

01:33:21.000 I don't mean we owe him

01:33:21.900 glad he betrayed him

01:33:23.120 but it's an interesting thing.

01:33:25.040 Christ came to die

01:33:26.600 for our sins.

01:33:28.020 I love a guy

01:33:30.800 who just casually

01:33:31.960 mentions Bishop Fulton Sheen.

01:33:35.020 I never knew

01:33:36.280 who this guy was

01:33:37.300 until somebody said to me

01:33:38.900 I grew up in the Pacific Northwest

01:33:40.500 and they said

01:33:42.360 you remind me so much

01:33:45.000 of Bishop Fulton Sheen.

01:33:47.760 Wow, that's a great comment.

01:33:48.720 Yeah, they didn't mean it that way.

01:33:49.960 Okay.

01:33:50.240 What they meant was

01:33:51.200 his show

01:33:51.940 with the chalkboards

01:33:53.020 and being able

01:33:53.760 to explain everything

01:33:55.300 and I went to the Museum

01:33:57.220 of Television History

01:33:58.200 to look up this bishop

01:34:00.560 in his robes

01:34:01.640 on television

01:34:02.580 explaining communism

01:34:05.380 and explaining

01:34:06.260 Yes.

01:34:06.920 I mean,

01:34:07.600 it's a different world.

01:34:09.940 You know in his book

01:34:10.940 on the life of Christ

01:34:12.020 I quoted that

01:34:13.460 in one of my books

01:34:14.000 and I went back

01:34:14.620 and it was a really

01:34:15.780 influential book

01:34:16.760 for me.

01:34:17.980 and he's talking

01:34:19.360 about communism

01:34:20.180 like my dad was.

01:34:21.740 Yeah.

01:34:22.040 Wow.

01:34:22.820 Yeah, totally.

01:34:23.760 We have lost

01:34:24.400 I mean,

01:34:25.180 that's in a time

01:34:26.400 when Christianity

01:34:28.280 was convicted

01:34:30.420 that if you become

01:34:33.360 a godless society

01:34:35.060 you're done.

01:34:37.000 And communism

01:34:37.480 was nothing

01:34:38.240 if not godless.

01:34:39.240 Right.

01:34:39.840 It was evil.

01:34:40.760 Evil.

01:34:41.300 It was evil

01:34:41.720 and it still is evil

01:34:43.120 as we see in North Korea.

01:34:44.820 Yes.

01:34:45.260 We're not willing

01:34:45.700 to say that anymore.

01:34:46.960 No.

01:34:47.240 And they slaughtered

01:34:48.400 they slaughtered

01:34:49.480 100 million people

01:34:51.100 possibly

01:34:51.760 in the 20th century.

01:34:54.280 30 million

01:34:55.220 in Soviet Union

01:34:56.760 and Red China

01:34:58.300 all over the place.

01:35:00.240 Cambodia

01:35:00.800 people just

01:35:02.080 the left

01:35:03.160 give them a pass

01:35:04.240 because they think

01:35:05.500 the logical extent

01:35:06.420 well,

01:35:06.960 I don't know

01:35:07.520 I don't even want

01:35:08.060 to get into that

01:35:08.720 tangled web.

01:35:13.200 Let me switch gears

01:35:14.380 with you.

01:35:14.680 what do you think

01:35:19.380 happens to

01:35:20.620 and I don't want

01:35:23.120 to talk about

01:35:23.600 your brother

01:35:24.020 but I mean

01:35:24.720 your Limbaugh

01:35:25.520 yesterday was

01:35:26.580 an end of an era.

01:35:27.720 There are two

01:35:28.800 icons

01:35:29.720 that

01:35:30.560 stood in the doorway

01:35:32.760 and stopped

01:35:34.000 the Huns

01:35:35.140 from rushing in.

01:35:36.100 one is

01:35:38.220 Rush Limbaugh

01:35:39.540 and the other

01:35:41.080 has been

01:35:41.580 Bill O'Reilly.

01:35:42.960 Bill is not

01:35:44.140 a movement

01:35:45.660 conservative

01:35:46.420 but he was

01:35:48.540 a cultural

01:35:49.200 conservative

01:35:49.880 and they made

01:35:52.220 him into

01:35:53.160 the most evil

01:35:54.260 conservative man

01:35:55.120 in the planet

01:35:55.580 which I don't think

01:35:56.180 he was.

01:35:56.640 I think he was

01:35:57.060 more common sense

01:35:57.960 kind of just

01:35:58.860 middle of the road

01:35:59.520 kind of guy.

01:35:59.980 but now that

01:36:02.560 he's gone

01:36:03.220 and the way

01:36:04.420 he was taken

01:36:05.160 out was from

01:36:06.160 pressure from

01:36:07.140 Media Matters

01:36:08.840 and

01:36:11.200 advertiser

01:36:12.440 loss.

01:36:12.960 I said yesterday

01:36:13.700 okay so now

01:36:15.540 who's the big

01:36:16.160 dog that you're

01:36:16.880 going to have to

01:36:17.420 get off?

01:36:17.760 Media Matters

01:36:18.280 going to have to

01:36:18.640 get off?

01:36:19.140 Sean Hannity.

01:36:20.720 So Sean will

01:36:21.440 be a target.

01:36:23.140 Then what's it?

01:36:23.800 Fox is gone.

01:36:25.040 You know we're

01:36:25.300 hearing about the

01:36:25.940 Murdochs

01:36:26.720 changing all

01:36:28.500 of Fox

01:36:29.100 and wanting

01:36:29.540 to make it

01:36:30.080 mainstream

01:36:30.700 and you're in

01:36:31.740 talks about

01:36:32.280 Oprah Winfrey.

01:36:33.860 Fox gone.

01:36:35.520 It brings all

01:36:36.480 of the focus

01:36:37.160 onto two places

01:36:38.600 small little

01:36:39.540 things on the

01:36:40.240 internet that

01:36:41.240 are struggling

01:36:42.260 to stay alive

01:36:42.960 all of us are

01:36:43.600 struggling to

01:36:44.140 stay alive

01:36:44.720 because we're

01:36:45.900 in our infancy

01:36:46.560 and talk radio.

01:36:49.080 What does

01:36:49.840 Bill O'Reilly

01:36:50.540 leaving mean

01:36:52.400 do you think?

01:36:53.700 Well as you

01:36:54.740 mentioned earlier

01:36:55.920 I think on

01:36:56.820 the TV show

01:36:57.900 we don't know

01:36:59.520 we've got to be

01:37:00.040 clear to

01:37:00.460 differentiate this

01:37:01.420 or I do

01:37:02.000 that we don't

01:37:03.220 know what the

01:37:03.680 facts were

01:37:04.300 whether it's

01:37:05.260 every bit true

01:37:06.020 or every bit

01:37:06.540 false or partially

01:37:07.360 true or partially

01:37:07.920 false.

01:37:08.720 If it's true

01:37:09.680 then he should

01:37:10.940 go away.

01:37:11.400 We can't tolerate

01:37:12.300 that.

01:37:12.800 Yeah.

01:37:13.300 Right.

01:37:13.620 So just dismiss

01:37:14.880 if we don't

01:37:16.040 know that.

01:37:17.300 That's right.

01:37:18.240 And so

01:37:18.580 but I don't want

01:37:19.860 people to misconstrue

01:37:21.100 this intentionally

01:37:21.820 what we're saying.

01:37:23.020 We're not saying

01:37:23.800 don't look at the

01:37:24.520 evidence.

01:37:25.000 Correct.

01:37:25.140 The evidence

01:37:25.540 speaks for itself.

01:37:26.380 Correct.

01:37:26.560 What we are saying

01:37:27.320 I don't want to

01:37:27.780 speak for you here

01:37:28.420 but I think

01:37:29.240 what we are saying

01:37:30.000 is they are

01:37:31.000 salivating

01:37:31.700 they've been

01:37:32.160 salivating

01:37:32.820 the media

01:37:33.360 matters and

01:37:33.820 the other

01:37:34.220 leftist

01:37:35.440 extremists

01:37:36.120 to go after

01:37:38.300 as you say

01:37:39.480 conservative

01:37:39.940 icons

01:37:40.480 and they

01:37:42.620 do it all

01:37:43.240 the time

01:37:43.480 they're relentless

01:37:43.960 that's what

01:37:44.440 they exist for

01:37:45.220 I don't think

01:37:45.740 they would

01:37:46.040 deny it.

01:37:46.780 They claimed

01:37:47.460 O'Reilly

01:37:48.300 Scalp didn't

01:37:49.040 they?

01:37:49.400 And if they

01:37:50.440 didn't I

01:37:50.880 apologize but I

01:37:51.720 think I read

01:37:52.220 something.

01:37:52.540 Here's what I

01:37:54.800 want to point

01:37:55.240 out in terms

01:37:56.240 of people

01:37:56.660 trying to

01:37:57.100 figure out

01:37:57.660 the way

01:37:59.140 the left

01:37:59.620 and the right

01:37:59.980 and this is

01:38:00.680 kids that go

01:38:01.180 to school

01:38:01.540 you know the

01:38:02.560 best way to

01:38:03.300 tell people

01:38:03.860 about the

01:38:04.300 left and

01:38:05.280 what they

01:38:05.980 really are

01:38:06.540 about

01:38:06.880 they always

01:38:08.580 had including

01:38:09.180 when I was in

01:38:09.760 college

01:38:10.040 what they had

01:38:10.860 on us was

01:38:11.520 they claimed

01:38:12.500 to have

01:38:12.720 compassion

01:38:13.180 so you

01:38:13.880 send

01:38:14.140 conservative

01:38:14.560 to school

01:38:15.000 paint them

01:38:16.120 as racist

01:38:16.700 bigots

01:38:17.700 uncompassionate

01:38:18.820 that's why

01:38:19.480 liberals are

01:38:20.280 liberals because

01:38:20.820 we aren't

01:38:21.200 compassionate

01:38:21.420 it's a lie

01:38:22.120 but that's

01:38:22.520 what they

01:38:22.820 have their

01:38:23.220 foot in the

01:38:23.620 door and

01:38:24.200 that's how

01:38:24.500 they convince

01:38:25.060 kids to go

01:38:26.100 to the other

01:38:26.400 side.

01:38:27.200 They're the

01:38:27.580 ones who

01:38:28.240 are hateful

01:38:28.840 intolerant

01:38:29.580 uncompassionate

01:38:30.420 and I have

01:38:31.360 I have some

01:38:32.760 young kids

01:38:33.380 I've talked

01:38:33.780 to who have

01:38:34.460 experienced

01:38:35.180 the salivating

01:38:36.260 meanness of

01:38:37.460 the left

01:38:37.860 have the

01:38:38.180 intolerance

01:38:38.680 they'll never

01:38:39.420 be a liberal

01:38:40.000 now because

01:38:40.560 they now know

01:38:41.380 how mean

01:38:42.300 these people

01:38:42.800 are.

01:38:43.480 Now this

01:38:43.840 is let me

01:38:44.460 give you an

01:38:44.840 example we

01:38:45.400 mentioned this

01:38:45.980 no conservative

01:38:47.460 ever tries to

01:38:48.440 suppress the

01:38:48.980 speech of a

01:38:49.440 liberal none

01:38:49.860 that I know

01:38:50.380 we believe in

01:38:51.320 the marketplace

01:38:52.400 of ideas and

01:38:53.140 that our ideas

01:38:54.100 will triumph

01:38:54.680 if given a

01:38:55.480 full airing

01:38:55.920 liberals

01:38:56.540 apparently either

01:38:57.500 don't believe

01:38:58.160 that or they

01:38:58.600 don't care

01:38:59.040 they want to

01:38:59.500 suppress us

01:39:00.180 and I mean

01:39:01.260 that they want

01:39:01.720 to suppress

01:39:02.080 our speech

01:39:02.520 our religious

01:39:03.040 freedom

01:39:03.440 and evidence

01:39:05.760 of that is

01:39:06.360 they are

01:39:07.100 triumphant

01:39:08.020 that this

01:39:08.440 happened to

01:39:08.820 O'Reilly

01:39:09.180 they I

01:39:10.260 don't I

01:39:10.660 can't imagine

01:39:11.320 going after

01:39:12.380 a liberal

01:39:13.820 icon I

01:39:14.760 don't want

01:39:15.420 to get

01:39:15.780 those people

01:39:16.260 off the

01:39:16.580 air

01:39:16.700 in fact

01:39:17.020 they're a

01:39:17.900 great

01:39:18.120 advertisement

01:39:18.640 for conservatism

01:39:19.560 because they

01:39:20.200 are so mean

01:39:20.840 and intolerant

01:39:21.420 the more

01:39:22.000 they flourish

01:39:22.680 in their

01:39:23.300 little world

01:39:23.920 the better

01:39:24.420 they expose

01:39:25.020 themselves

01:39:25.420 disinfecting

01:39:26.480 I think

01:39:27.120 MSNBC

01:39:27.820 has done

01:39:28.560 more for

01:39:29.120 the conservative

01:39:29.760 movement

01:39:30.440 exactly

01:39:31.040 than Fox

01:39:32.680 in all of

01:39:33.300 its years

01:39:33.760 plus I don't

01:39:34.400 wish ill on

01:39:35.060 them personally

01:39:35.680 I can't stand

01:39:36.820 what Bill

01:39:37.260 Maher stands

01:39:37.940 for and the

01:39:38.440 way he treats

01:39:39.040 people but I

01:39:39.920 don't wish him

01:39:40.640 ill

01:39:41.040 I don't

01:39:42.120 think he

01:39:42.980 actually wishes

01:39:43.580 some people

01:39:44.120 ill but the

01:39:44.860 point and he's

01:39:46.020 a free speech

01:39:46.600 guy anyway

01:39:47.180 he's one of the

01:39:47.840 few liberals

01:39:48.300 but most of

01:39:49.460 he's crazy

01:39:50.500 he's very

01:39:52.620 very liberal

01:39:53.200 but at times

01:39:54.000 very libertarian

01:39:55.280 and so he's a

01:39:56.780 mix and sometimes

01:39:57.800 he's exactly right

01:39:58.820 and sometimes you're

01:39:59.380 like what

01:40:00.120 totally agree

01:40:00.920 but most liberals

01:40:02.920 that are prominent

01:40:03.900 and even that

01:40:04.660 aren't even on

01:40:05.280 college campuses

01:40:06.000 they are

01:40:07.440 they are

01:40:08.240 intolerant

01:40:09.380 and they want

01:40:10.180 to shut you

01:40:10.640 down because

01:40:11.040 they deem your

01:40:11.780 ideas so toxic

01:40:13.240 that they can't

01:40:14.160 be aired because

01:40:14.820 if they're aired

01:40:15.300 they will lead

01:40:15.760 to violence

01:40:16.300 and do you

01:40:17.160 notice how

01:40:17.460 ridiculous they

01:40:18.240 are in the

01:40:19.340 name of stopping

01:40:20.460 violence that

01:40:21.400 could come from

01:40:22.300 speech theoretically

01:40:23.780 conservative speech

01:40:24.780 could cause violence

01:40:25.660 which is absurd

01:40:26.360 by the way

01:40:26.820 but let's accept

01:40:27.980 it theoretically

01:40:28.340 they will commit

01:40:29.400 violence to stop

01:40:30.700 speech that could

01:40:31.680 possibly lead to

01:40:32.540 violence

01:40:32.860 they're amazing

01:40:34.680 and they don't

01:40:35.260 even they're so

01:40:35.800 unself-reflective

01:40:37.040 that they don't

01:40:37.780 even realize how

01:40:38.480 absurd they are

01:40:39.260 where do you

01:40:40.060 think is coming

01:40:40.660 where are we

01:40:42.380 if we don't

01:40:43.140 turn a corner

01:40:45.160 and we keep

01:40:45.680 going down this

01:40:46.360 road where are

01:40:46.900 we in five or

01:40:47.560 ten years

01:40:48.080 well I happen

01:40:49.320 to be an

01:40:50.880 optimist

01:40:51.600 I hope not a

01:40:52.760 naive optimist

01:40:53.560 because I do

01:40:55.880 believe we're in

01:40:56.460 a war

01:40:56.820 and I mean

01:40:58.180 cultural war

01:40:59.160 political war

01:41:00.000 the left wants

01:41:01.220 to take us

01:41:01.800 out the left

01:41:02.380 wants to triumph

01:41:03.160 it's totalitarian

01:41:04.500 it's mindset

01:41:05.900 it's world

01:41:06.420 view

01:41:06.580 it's totalitarian

01:41:07.260 if they had

01:41:08.140 their way

01:41:08.580 they would wipe

01:41:09.660 us out

01:41:10.100 I don't mean

01:41:10.500 physically and

01:41:11.180 literally although

01:41:11.860 you wonder

01:41:12.560 but intellectually

01:41:14.520 so there'd be one

01:41:15.880 type of thought

01:41:17.340 out there

01:41:17.760 they're trying

01:41:19.380 what frustrates me

01:41:20.660 is conservatives

01:41:21.320 who don't realize

01:41:22.080 we're in a war

01:41:22.620 and so they lay

01:41:23.560 back and they

01:41:24.380 don't fight back

01:41:25.280 George W. Bush

01:41:26.280 what a sweetheart

01:41:27.080 what a God-fearing

01:41:27.920 man

01:41:28.160 he wouldn't fight

01:41:29.060 back he wouldn't

01:41:29.520 even defend himself

01:41:30.380 we have to defend

01:41:31.920 we have to be

01:41:32.420 alert vigilant

01:41:33.200 every day

01:41:33.820 and if we are

01:41:35.040 we will beat

01:41:36.260 them back

01:41:36.720 because we

01:41:37.160 listen that's

01:41:37.880 why Trump won

01:41:38.760 so David

01:41:39.320 let me ask you

01:41:39.880 this

01:41:40.120 do you think

01:41:41.000 I could talk

01:41:42.520 to you for

01:41:42.880 another hour

01:41:43.380 do you think

01:41:45.040 that because

01:41:47.400 I am trying

01:41:47.960 to reach out

01:41:48.660 to the people

01:41:49.600 who can

01:41:50.680 not to

01:41:51.800 I'm not going

01:41:52.320 to reach out

01:41:52.800 to Nancy Pelosi

01:41:53.480 and the people

01:41:54.100 in Washington

01:41:54.440 they're not

01:41:54.720 going to change

01:41:55.120 I got her

01:41:55.540 number

01:41:55.860 I got her

01:41:57.600 number too

01:41:58.100 but I'm not

01:42:01.640 talking about

01:42:02.140 the political

01:42:03.120 people

01:42:03.540 I'm talking

01:42:04.040 about I think

01:42:04.600 there's a ton

01:42:05.420 of people

01:42:06.360 who are

01:42:07.020 Democrats

01:42:07.560 who are saying

01:42:08.800 I don't want

01:42:09.420 any more of

01:42:09.820 this either

01:42:10.200 I mean I

01:42:11.180 think I think

01:42:11.880 there's a

01:42:12.220 majority of

01:42:12.900 people that

01:42:13.660 are looking

01:42:14.140 for reasonable

01:42:16.200 people that

01:42:18.020 you know

01:42:18.340 why can't we

01:42:19.280 get back

01:42:19.780 together

01:42:20.260 and I think

01:42:21.800 the edges

01:42:22.500 are going to

01:42:23.460 lose their

01:42:23.900 power if

01:42:25.180 they don't

01:42:25.920 clasp us

01:42:26.660 in leg

01:42:27.840 irons

01:42:28.160 either the

01:42:28.560 fascists

01:42:29.020 or the

01:42:29.260 communists

01:42:29.800 you know

01:42:30.740 I think

01:42:31.040 if the

01:42:31.320 people

01:42:31.840 will rise

01:42:32.780 up

01:42:33.100 and stay

01:42:33.720 together

01:42:34.000 there's

01:42:34.340 more that

01:42:34.820 we agree

01:42:35.220 on

01:42:35.560 than we

01:42:36.260 disagree

01:42:36.600 yeah

01:42:37.380 and even

01:42:38.120 most liberals

01:42:38.940 I think

01:42:39.520 I don't

01:42:40.320 look at

01:42:40.720 liberals

01:42:41.320 as evil

01:42:41.760 I look

01:42:42.140 at some

01:42:42.440 of the

01:42:42.620 liberal

01:42:42.860 leaders

01:42:43.420 as borderline

01:42:44.440 evil

01:42:44.720 and fooling

01:42:45.900 people

01:42:46.180 and duping

01:42:46.680 them into

01:42:47.060 thinking

01:42:47.380 we're evil

01:42:48.040 and so

01:42:48.420 they got

01:42:49.180 to watch

01:42:49.540 and they

01:42:49.760 and so

01:42:50.880 but I

01:42:51.980 and I'm

01:42:52.360 not a

01:42:52.640 naive

01:42:57.840 we have

01:42:58.200 to work

01:42:58.640 on the

01:42:59.060 culture

01:42:59.300 we have

01:42:59.600 to be

01:42:59.900 influential

01:43:00.360 in the

01:43:00.640 culture

01:43:00.880 and that

01:43:01.580 gets us

01:43:01.960 back to

01:43:02.360 Christianity

01:43:02.740 we have

01:43:03.400 to be

01:43:04.080 obedient

01:43:04.480 to Christ

01:43:05.120 and hopefully

01:43:05.940 we'll influence

01:43:06.580 the culture

01:43:07.080 we'll be

01:43:07.460 ambassadors

01:43:07.960 for Christ

01:43:08.540 and we'll

01:43:09.100 have a

01:43:09.360 positive

01:43:09.640 influence

01:43:10.120 and it'll

01:43:10.780 go upstream

01:43:11.360 into politics

01:43:12.320 hopefully

01:43:12.960 the problem

01:43:13.660 is in

01:43:14.760 America

01:43:15.420 is our

01:43:16.920 kids are

01:43:18.140 not getting

01:43:18.760 the teaching

01:43:19.480 of the

01:43:20.800 scriptures

01:43:21.120 that we

01:43:21.760 had

01:43:21.980 they don't

01:43:22.480 relate to

01:43:23.120 it anymore

01:43:23.660 David's

01:43:25.380 got a

01:43:25.640 great book

01:43:26.280 that might

01:43:26.980 help bridge

01:43:27.600 that gap

01:43:28.360 it's called

01:43:29.240 The True

01:43:29.760 Jesus

01:43:30.260 by David

01:43:31.380 Limbaugh

01:43:31.840 number

01:43:32.300 four

01:43:33.600 last week

01:43:34.380 they just

01:43:35.480 announced it

01:43:36.040 so it'll be

01:43:36.400 in the two

01:43:36.820 weeks

01:43:37.120 but there's

01:43:37.740 a delay

01:43:38.140 congratulations

01:43:38.940 thank you so

01:43:40.500 much

01:43:40.800 and a great

01:43:41.820 book and

01:43:42.560 well worth

01:43:43.140 your time

01:43:43.540 The True

01:43:43.920 Jesus

01:43:44.300 David Limbaugh

01:43:45.460 thanks so

01:43:46.160 much for

01:43:46.500 having me

01:43:46.840 Glenn

01:43:46.960 really

01:43:47.280 appreciate

01:43:47.720 it

01:43:47.940 this is

01:43:50.700 the Glenn

01:43:51.260 Beck

01:43:51.600 program

01:43:52.340 Mercury

01:43:53.920 this is

01:43:58.000 the Glenn

01:43:58.400 Beck

01:43:58.660 program

01:43:59.060 all right

01:43:59.760 we're just

01:44:01.400 sitting here

01:44:02.100 just talking

01:44:03.040 to David

01:44:03.380 Limbaugh

01:44:03.760 delightful

01:44:04.800 man

01:44:05.200 and a

01:44:06.940 great book

01:44:07.560 that you

01:44:09.340 should pick

01:44:10.060 up

01:44:10.300 anything that

01:44:11.540 we should

01:44:11.820 we're not

01:44:12.480 concerned that

01:44:12.980 the world

01:44:13.280 is going to

01:44:13.560 vaporize

01:44:14.160 by Monday

01:44:15.060 right

01:44:15.360 that was

01:44:16.220 last week

01:44:16.900 we worried

01:44:17.860 about the

01:44:18.180 moon spinning

01:44:18.920 out of orbit

01:44:19.480 and crashing

01:44:20.020 into us

01:44:20.440 this week

01:44:20.980 or is it

01:44:21.440 still just

01:44:21.960 nuclear

01:44:22.360 vaporization

01:44:23.280 this is

01:44:24.040 the Glenn

01:44:25.140 Beck

01:44:25.660 program

01:44:26.440 Mercury

The Glenn Beck Program - April 20, 2017

4⧸20⧸17 - How Glenn & Bill O'Reilly Became Friends... David Limbaugh Joins Glenn

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