The Glenn Beck Program - 4⧸25⧸17 - Who's really running this place？... Eric Liu Joins Glenn

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00:00:07.820 The plague that Disney released when they opened up the jar named Science Guy,

00:00:15.460 that Bill Nye plague, it continues to spread across America.

00:00:21.020 When are we going to admit the guy's not a scientist?

00:00:25.060 We're going to talk about science deniers.

00:00:27.180 It's Bill Nye the Science Guy.

00:00:30.940 It's Britney Spears, man.

00:00:35.160 He's a Disney-manufactured character.

00:00:39.400 He's essentially Selena Gomez with a lab coat.

00:00:42.260 Yeah, I mean, it's great.

00:00:43.620 Don't you dare talk about Selena Gomez that way. 0.92

00:00:46.280 I absolutely agree with Stuart.

00:00:47.780 I believe that's Disney Lab Rats, isn't it?

00:00:50.500 Yes.

00:00:51.240 We'll talk about this great song that he put out that is just wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

00:00:56.860 Also, we want to give you an update on North Korea and also Berkeley, something that no one will pay attention to.

00:01:07.640 But you will, because you've been down this road already.

00:01:12.700 You are now finally seeing the fascists, the communists, the anarchists, and the Islamists 0.93

00:01:19.220 working together to destabilize Europe and the Western world.

00:01:25.480 It's finally happening.

00:01:27.420 You can watch it in real time.

00:01:30.700 Alert the press.

00:01:31.840 Now, forget that.

00:01:32.640 They won't pay attention.

00:01:33.860 We begin there right now.

00:01:35.100 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:56.680 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:05.100 The book I hold in my hands, I'm reading from it.

00:02:09.400 The book you hold in your hands has become the principal piece of evidence in an anti-terrorism

00:02:14.320 case in France directed against nine individuals who were arrested November 11, 2008, mostly

00:02:20.840 in the village of Tarnak.

00:02:22.960 They have been accused of criminal association for the purposes of terrorist activity on the

00:02:28.640 grounds they were to have participated in the sabotage of overhead electrical lines on France's

00:02:35.840 national railways.

00:02:37.980 This book is called The Coming Insurrection.

00:02:41.440 The copy I have doesn't have that disclaimer in it because we started talking about this book

00:02:49.700 before they picked up all of the people that were involved.

00:02:54.440 This book was to speak to a small, very small faction of people in France that wanted revolution,

00:03:07.780 that wanted communist or fascistic rule.

00:03:12.440 That number now is at 40%.

00:03:15.780 When I first started talking about the coming insurrection, we were alone, it made global

00:03:22.540 headlines, Glenn Beck pushing little known book.

00:03:28.100 The reason why I told you is because this was the beginning of the theory that I later would

00:03:35.880 talk about on Fox that fascists, communists, anarchists, Islamists would work together to destabilize

00:03:44.360 the Middle East, the Middle East, then Europe, and the rest of the world.

00:03:50.520 I'm really bad at timing, but you're seeing this now beginning to come together in Europe.

00:03:59.300 And it is coming here.

00:04:01.180 In fact, it already is.

00:04:04.900 You know, we talk about the students at Berkeley.

00:04:09.400 Oh, those students in Berkeley.

00:04:10.860 Have you seen what the students in Berkeley are doing?

00:04:13.800 The students in Berkeley.

00:04:15.620 Have you noticed what the students, they're burning things down?

00:04:19.080 The students are getting violent.

00:04:23.860 Who are these people?

00:04:29.880 Antifa.

00:04:30.860 Ever heard of the Antifa movement?

00:04:34.600 We've seen that.

00:04:35.900 You've seen it in the newspapers.

00:04:37.500 You might have heard it talked about.

00:04:39.320 But do you really know what it is?

00:04:42.260 Yeah, it's the students at Berkeley.

00:04:44.860 Berkeley, you know, the bastion of free speech.

00:04:47.760 You know, as long as you're a leftist.

00:04:51.080 Can't have Ann Coulter there.

00:04:53.880 That's why we have to, we have to take the, you know, the, the yogurt shop and set it on fire.

00:05:01.280 On CBS this morning, they called Berkeley the birthplace of the free speech movement.

00:05:11.020 Hmm.

00:05:12.000 Hmm, I was gonna.

00:05:12.880 It seems like it occurred a little sooner than Berkeley.

00:05:15.780 Like what, 1930?

00:05:19.820 17, 17.

00:05:20.340 17, 17.

00:05:21.800 Oh yeah, the Woodrow Wilson administration, 1917.

00:05:23.640 A little prior to that, ever so slightly.

00:05:25.820 The common denominator in both the Milo and the Ann Coulter speech cancellation was the

00:05:32.560 arrival of black-clad, mask-wearing, weapon-carrying thugs.

00:05:38.480 The Antifa movement.

00:05:41.380 Violence is their protest.

00:05:44.200 Oh yeah, right, those are the Berkeley students.

00:05:47.500 You know, the ones that want free speech.

00:05:50.300 You notice that it's Ann Coulter.

00:05:53.640 And Milo.

00:05:54.380 Who are both nationalists.

00:05:59.000 Love of your country is great.

00:06:03.120 Love of your countrymen is great.

00:06:06.800 That's not what nationalism is.

00:06:09.900 Nationalism is the hatred for everything else.

00:06:14.940 Nationalism is an actual term.

00:06:18.460 It's an actual plan and state of being that turns into a nightmare of bloodshed.

00:06:33.920 Nationalism isn't love of your country.

00:06:36.640 And don't mistake that.

00:06:38.980 Nationalism is fascism.

00:06:42.200 It's just the first phase.

00:06:43.720 The Antifa movement.

00:06:48.720 Movement.

00:06:50.460 Antifa is anti-fascist.

00:06:54.020 Anti-fa-

00:06:55.740 Ashist.

00:06:57.060 That's right, they're the Berkeley students.

00:07:02.480 Well, yeah, it is.

00:07:03.360 I guess the Berkeley students that put this together.

00:07:05.480 If all the Berkeley students were alive in the 1920s and members of the Communist Party of Germany.

00:07:11.520 Yeah, you're right.

00:07:13.280 Then they would be the Berkeley students.

00:07:17.580 Antifa is the group of communists that stood against the fascists in Germany.

00:07:25.720 Their job was to be a paramilitary force.

00:07:30.400 Remember the brown shirts?

00:07:32.060 The brown shirts went after the black shirts.

00:07:37.920 They were to take the streets and fight and combat the fascists.

00:07:43.020 They were street fighters meant to bring intimidation to the intimidators.

00:07:48.380 Their ranks included the communists, the anarchists, and the leftists.

00:07:52.900 Eventually, the movement was suppressed by the Nazis.

00:07:55.720 But they resurged again in the 70s and the 80s.

00:08:00.520 And today, their ranks are swelling with active Antifa cells all over the world.

00:08:06.460 And they like to breed in places like Berkeley.

00:08:10.600 Yeah, we're an anti-fascist group.

00:08:16.760 You're a communist anti-fascist group.

00:08:22.560 The Berkeley goal for Antifa is to shut down any conservative or capitalist thought.

00:08:29.400 And they've nearly done it.

00:08:31.320 Have you seen the videos of the riots on YouTube?

00:08:34.660 Berkeley looks like a war zone.

00:08:36.360 Two weeks ago, Antifa crashed a pro-Trump rally.

00:08:41.400 But this time, things were a little different.

00:08:43.180 Militia groups came from all over the country to provide security.

00:08:46.300 And all hell broke loose.

00:08:48.280 It looked like a riot in Venezuela.

00:08:50.240 Militia groups came from all over the country to be a war zone.

00:08:52.620 And it looked like a war zone.

00:08:53.180 Gee.

00:08:55.920 Isn't this what we said would happen?

00:09:00.460 After losing the battle for Berkeley, Antifa members hit the forums to talk through what they had done wrong.

00:09:07.300 And their solution?

00:09:08.980 Bring guns next time.

00:09:10.840 Quote,

00:09:11.400 We need more than flags and bats.

00:09:13.980 We need to take notes from the John Brown Gun Club and get the firearms and the training.

00:09:19.360 I know getting firearms in states and cities we have a presence in is usually a hassle.

00:09:23.820 But even handguns would help.

00:09:26.080 It certainly put a psychological element in while holding back the fascists.

00:09:32.620 Who do you think is a fascist?

00:09:36.220 Who do you think the fascists are more afraid of?

00:09:38.580 People with flags and bats or people with flags, bats and guns?

00:09:42.560 End quote.

00:09:45.140 Berkeley is now considered holy ground for the First Amendment.

00:09:51.280 It's the launch point for a communist, anarchist, paramilitary movement.

00:09:56.140 They're not even fighting fascism anymore.

00:09:59.420 The world has lost all meaning.

00:10:02.740 Everything is fascist.

00:10:04.780 Are you a conservative?

00:10:05.860 You're a fascist.

00:10:06.980 You're a capitalist?

00:10:07.960 You're a fascist.

00:10:08.940 Believe in national borders?

00:10:10.400 You're a fascist.

00:10:11.500 Religious? 0.96

00:10:12.140 Clearly you're a fascist.

00:10:15.280 These are the same people, the same type of people, that wrote the book, The Coming Insurrection.

00:10:22.460 As if this new movement was ripped right out of the pages of the book.

00:10:26.720 But boy, oh boy, you talk to anybody in the press about this, they won't pay attention because they're intellectually dead inside.

00:10:34.820 There's no curiosity in them anymore.

00:10:40.980 This book I told you about in 2008 is a book of revolution and it calls for violence.

00:10:47.160 It actively calls for terrorist activity to end civilization and crash the economy.

00:10:53.500 Yesterday I spoke about the worldwide phenomena where radical elements on both sides of the spectrum would work together to bring it all down.

00:11:03.780 The fascists, the communists, the anarchists, the Islamists would work together to crash and bring the world to its knees. 1.00

00:11:13.160 Over the weekend we saw 40% of French voters voting for a candidate at the extreme ends of the political spectrum.

00:11:22.060 That means almost half of the population wants radical left or a radical fascist right government.

00:11:28.840 And yet, the press doesn't seem so concerned.

00:11:35.460 The press is celebrating because the globalist, the guy who is lying to the population and saying,

00:11:43.300 No, I'm not a socialist.

00:11:45.580 No, I don't have anything to do with the other parties.

00:11:49.460 Even though I left one of the parties to become, you know, the candidate because the parties were freaking out.

00:11:55.640 So I left the Rothschild Bank, not kidding, not making that up.

00:12:00.220 I left the Rothschilds and the Socialist Party to run as, you know, just a guy like you. 0.96

00:12:06.980 Oh, that's going to work out really well.

00:12:11.720 Where will they be in five years?

00:12:13.580 Well, the press continues this nonsense about the president's first 100 days.

00:12:22.040 Why?

00:12:24.120 Well, because he said it was a big deal.

00:12:26.540 Oh, let me translate.

00:12:28.540 He started it.

00:12:30.420 The world is on fire.

00:12:32.960 And you are spending all of your time trying to prove Donald Trump wrong.

00:12:37.960 We've already made up our minds.

00:12:40.040 We're either for him or against him.

00:12:42.180 The country has made up their mind.

00:12:46.280 Why don't we talk about things that we can actually be aware of, plan for, help decide the course?

00:12:56.080 Like, how many Americans know that the entire Senate is going to the White House?

00:13:02.460 Is it tomorrow?

00:13:03.340 Tomorrow.

00:13:04.620 I've never seen this done before in history.

00:13:07.460 So the president can lay out with a joint chief of staff to Congress exactly what his plan is on North Korea.

00:13:16.160 We could launch today.

00:13:19.260 Does anybody really know what that means?

00:13:21.660 If Donald Trump doesn't deliver on his promises over the next four years, how will his most vocal supporters react?

00:13:34.780 How will Breitbart treat him just when they let Bannon go?

00:13:39.400 Will the Democrats continue to slide further and further into the left, where they will embrace the Antifa movement in Berkeley?

00:13:50.780 Because they're practically there now.

00:13:52.700 If they want votes in this radically changing shift, they may not have any other choice.

00:14:07.040 How many votes did Bernie Sanders get?

00:14:08.760 13.2 million?

00:14:10.020 That's 13 million people who think the United States would be better off as a socialist country.

00:14:17.560 You look at the latest polls, it shows almost everybody says we should spend more.

00:14:24.220 They want bigger government.

00:14:25.940 Almost everybody.

00:14:27.600 And yes, conservatives, that now includes you.

00:14:31.660 You want a bigger government.

00:14:34.100 You want to spend more money on programs.

00:14:36.380 We're $20 trillion in debt, but it doesn't seem to matter.

00:14:45.240 If the Democrats don't move further to the left and the Trump fails on his promises,

00:14:50.000 will the coming insurrection happen sooner than we think?

00:14:53.000 Will the black-clad, mask-wearing, weapon-toning Antifa thugs run in our streets?

00:14:58.700 The signs are here and it's being birthed in Berkeley.

00:15:06.380 And you know what?

00:15:11.940 I don't really...

00:15:13.060 I mean, I'm to the point.

00:15:16.300 I don't really...

00:15:17.020 We get what we deserve.

00:15:20.140 You know, you listen to this stuff.

00:15:21.780 My job is to bring this stuff to you so you can be prepared.

00:15:25.560 You can know what time it is.

00:15:27.200 You can see this storm approach.

00:15:29.400 But after I do my homework and I tell you about it, I'm just like you.

00:15:35.860 I'm not going to pay attention to that.

00:15:37.300 I'm glad I know it and I'm going to move on with my life because there's nothing I can do about it anyway.

00:15:44.380 That's not a healthy attitude.

00:15:49.620 That doesn't solve it.

00:15:51.000 What solves it is standing against this tide

00:16:02.100 and not going over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

00:16:09.800 And boy, I feel like you do today, I think.

00:16:16.240 I'm just watching it go over the cliff.

00:16:18.840 Huh.

00:16:19.020 Huh.

00:16:21.920 I'm just tired of saying, hey, don't go there.

00:16:24.620 Huh.

00:16:24.900 There goes another one off the cliff.

00:16:29.300 Hey, honey, do we have any chips or anything?

00:16:34.460 Do you have any chips?

00:16:36.240 I mean, is that you just bring that up because you had chips or...

00:16:38.800 No, I was just asking if I had any chips.

00:16:43.680 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:46.080 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:47.740 I will be my job.

00:16:49.740 I have made my choice.

00:16:52.780 We will overcome.

00:16:55.240 Because we are one.

00:16:58.840 Mercury.

00:17:01.140 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:03.060 I'm in one of those moods today.

00:17:07.280 Anything could happen.

00:17:09.120 In one of those moods.

00:17:10.440 Great.

00:17:11.240 Yeah.

00:17:12.220 You love those.

00:17:13.160 Oh, I love these moods.

00:17:14.220 It always leads to good things.

00:17:16.360 No, it usually doesn't.

00:17:17.720 Oh, really?

00:17:18.240 I hadn't noticed.

00:17:19.540 Yeah, you should...

00:17:20.500 Huh.

00:17:20.700 Pat, I wanted to ask you, now that they have confirmed that this meeting of all 100 senators

00:17:32.200 at the White House is about a meeting with the Joint Chiefs on North Korea.

00:17:40.880 Mm-hmm.

00:17:41.300 Have you ever seen that happen before in history?

00:17:43.380 Not that I can remember.

00:17:44.560 No, I think it's...

00:17:45.360 I heard unprecedented many times tied to it.

00:17:47.560 However, they said that it was McConnell who called it and they're just having it at

00:17:51.440 the White House.

00:17:53.200 Really?

00:17:53.640 So it's not...

00:17:54.420 So it wasn't Trump that said...

00:17:55.660 It wasn't Trump that called it.

00:17:56.980 It was McConnell who called it.

00:17:58.960 Mm-hmm.

00:17:59.580 But they're just housing it at the White House for some reason.

00:18:03.800 Bizarre.

00:18:04.280 But it is unprecedented and I think we need to talk about North Korea.

00:18:09.480 It's now about 9.30 or 10.30 at night in North Korea.

00:18:15.540 We'll talk about that next.

00:18:18.400 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:22.800 Mercury.

00:18:24.420 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:30.020 Hello, America.

00:18:31.340 Welcome to the program.

00:18:32.260 Glad you're here.

00:18:35.240 So we're just trying to figure out where...

00:18:37.580 You know, maybe possibly this is a bluff when it comes to North Korea.

00:18:43.280 I'm not really sure.

00:18:44.580 Today is the 85th anniversary of the founding of the North Korean Army.

00:18:49.540 It's Armed Forces Day.

00:18:51.760 Yay! 0.99

00:18:52.360 And it's a significant date inside of North Korea.

00:18:56.280 It usually coincides with a weapons test and military drills.

00:19:00.160 The nuclear weapons test that they said was going to happen today didn't happen.

00:19:06.280 It is now 10.05 their time.

00:19:11.540 And yes, I understand that it is, it should be 10.35, but they also, they also, not only is it the year 105 in North Korea, they also just shave a half hour off the clock.

00:19:26.080 They're just like, whatever.

00:19:27.100 We want the extra sleep.

00:19:28.240 So anyway, they were supposed to have this weapons test today.

00:19:35.320 It didn't happen yesterday.

00:19:38.080 Yesterday, news broke that the entire Senate from the U.S. had been called to the White House for a briefing specifically on North Korea.

00:19:48.340 All of the senators will be there.

00:19:51.220 They'll get a detailed briefing by the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, Director of the National Intelligence, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

00:19:59.140 This is about as high level of a meeting as you can get.

00:20:04.260 I don't think I've, I've never seen this before.

00:20:06.800 So now, is this showmanship, is this showmanship to intimidate both China and North Korea?

00:20:15.000 Because, remember, Sunday night, the president, and they have not disclosed what this conversation was about,

00:20:22.920 but the president called both the Prime Minister of Japan and the president of China.

00:20:29.160 And after that phone conversation, the president of China issued a statement that said they don't believe in unilateral strikes and the U.N. must be consulted before any strike happens in North Korea.

00:20:47.220 So was the president preparing China and Japan that a strike is coming?

00:20:53.900 We have the carrier groups out there.

00:20:55.840 We also just landed 1,000 Marines off the coast of Australia.

00:21:02.580 Mike Pence cut his trip short by a day to come back so he could be in Washington, D.C. today.

00:21:10.380 Are 1,000 Marines enough to tip over and capsize the island of Australia? 0.99

00:21:16.640 Not Australia. 0.53

00:21:17.580 Good.

00:21:18.220 Not Australia. 0.53

00:21:18.900 That's too big.

00:21:19.340 Guam, yes, but not Australia.

00:21:21.520 But not Australia.

00:21:22.160 All right.

00:21:22.420 Okay, so Trump said the status quo in North Korea is unacceptable.

00:21:30.580 You know who agrees with that?

00:21:31.840 North Koreans. 0.55

00:21:33.000 Right.

00:21:34.320 That's for sure.

00:21:35.160 The council must be prepared to impose additional and stronger sanctions on North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile programs.

00:21:41.500 It's a real threat to the world.

00:21:42.940 Whether we want to talk about it or not, North Korea is a big world problem, and it's a problem that we have to finally solve. 0.77

00:21:48.780 People put blindfolds on for decades, and now it's time to solve the problem.

00:21:53.240 Now, I have heard that the Obama administration knew that this was a problem, a big problem, but did nothing, just wanted to pass it on to the next president.

00:22:08.000 No.

00:22:10.120 No.

00:22:10.720 I won't hear of that.

00:22:13.280 President Obama would have had it head on.

00:22:17.380 Oh, yeah, he was a man of action, wasn't he?

00:22:20.120 Man of action.

00:22:20.980 Oh.

00:22:21.640 Trump wants the council to believe that sanctions are the bare minimum that he'll accept, and if they don't agree, he's going to use the United States military.

00:22:29.100 That's why I think he's calling a hundred of the senators to the White House.

00:22:34.620 It's an elaborate bluff, I'm hoping.

00:22:39.160 Their sole intention, I'm hoping, is to brief them on North Korea, but also send a strong message to the world.

00:22:48.080 We will do it.

00:22:50.060 We are watching the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:22:52.300 People don't understand this, because the press is so focused on the first hundred days, the first hundred days, the first, see, he was wrong, see, he was wrong, see, see, we were right, he was wrong, we're right, he's wrong.

00:23:05.800 That's all they're doing.

00:23:07.260 We're watching the Cuban Missile Crisis unfold in front of us, and nobody in this country has a frickin' clue.

00:23:14.960 Now, it's either a bluff, or this is a legitimate meeting to discuss the president's authority to go to war.

00:23:27.140 But this is not an intelligence update.

00:23:30.060 He'd need some congressmen with him, too, if he's going to talk about going to war, because he's got to get all of Congress, not just the Senate.

00:23:38.640 Well, I will tell you this, no matter what this is, here's what you need to know today.

00:23:46.980 If we have to take care of North Korea, what you're looking at is a scale of warfare not seen since World War II. 0.83

00:23:59.540 This is what, this is what we believe it will look like opening up this can of worms.

00:24:08.960 Our primary objective would be to neutralize their nuclear threat.

00:24:13.400 So let's assume for a second that we have perfect intelligence.

00:24:18.140 If North Korea detects a preemptive strike, they could fire off a nuke at Seoul or Japan.

00:24:24.740 Our first wave of our strike would be B-2 bombers hitting North Korean nuclear sites and suspected launch areas.

00:24:33.280 That would be followed by a massive cruise missile strike from the USS Carl Vinson, the aircraft carrier in this battle group.

00:24:41.220 North Korea's retaliation would be instant.

00:24:45.800 And what they would most likely do is a massive artillery barrage that would open up on South Korea.

00:24:52.700 A few hours ago, North Korea celebrated their Armed Forces Day, not with a nuclear test, but with 400 artillery pieces.

00:25:03.480 They're reminding us in Seoul what retaliation will look like.

00:25:08.740 Seoul could be completely leveled with conventional weapons within two hours.

00:25:14.060 The loss of life will be in the millions in two hours with conventional weapons.

00:25:20.180 North Korea has extensive surface-to-air missile defenses.

00:25:26.760 These missiles can engage our bombers up to 200 miles away.

00:25:30.940 We'd be bogged down for hours trying to knock them out.

00:25:34.020 And during that time, artillery will continue to rain down on South Korea.

00:25:38.780 A strike on the USS Carl Vinson would probably take place during this time as well.

00:25:43.000 General Mattis would have a choice to make here.

00:25:46.740 The loss of Seoul is completely unacceptable.

00:25:51.080 Would he be forced to risk it and send B-2 bombers to drop massive payloads on North Korea's artillery assets?

00:25:58.840 Probably.

00:26:00.740 The loss of our pilots would be unavoidable.

00:26:04.500 At this point, the North Koreans would activate their sleeper cells in the South to carry out guerrilla attacks and to kidnap U.S. citizens.

00:26:22.540 While that's being dealt with, a joint U.S. and South Korean invasion would happen across the DMZ.

00:26:30.340 That would be imminent.

00:26:31.860 A ground assault on the area that has been fortified for over half a century.

00:26:36.900 This happens if it would start tonight, today.

00:26:41.160 All of this would happen by Thursday or Friday.

00:26:45.280 There are no good options if we go to war with Kim Jong-un.

00:26:56.360 Let's hope that this bluff, that it is a bluff, and that it works.

00:27:03.600 Why don't we bomb the parade where they've got the 400 pieces?

00:27:06.080 Right?

00:27:06.860 You just bomb the parade.

00:27:08.580 Take out all 400 pieces right there.

00:27:11.320 Did you see the pictures of the last parade with the missiles?

00:27:15.400 Yeah.

00:27:15.700 Did you see the nose cones?

00:27:17.160 Yeah.

00:27:17.840 Where they were fake?

00:27:19.160 Yeah.

00:27:20.260 I mean, they looked like cardboard.

00:27:22.580 They had all this artillery, and they had the big missiles, and one of the nose cones was on sideways.

00:27:27.700 It was kind of blowing in the wind.

00:27:29.260 I mean, you don't expect them to use real ones in the parade, do you?

00:27:31.960 I think that's a cardboard missile.

00:27:33.820 I don't think that's even real.

00:27:36.740 They might have been thinking we were going to bomb the parade.

00:27:39.400 Yeah.

00:27:39.620 That would be a good place to start.

00:27:42.140 I mean, and we have a pretty big target.

00:27:44.500 The people are all standing there with those little cards that, you know, spell out Kim Jong-un.

00:27:49.820 I mean, it's like a giant X in the sky.

00:27:52.300 You're like, just hit that big, mile-long red square there that keeps moving.

00:27:58.180 Just hopefully they don't think about that in advance and change the cards to say, don't bomb here.

00:28:02.420 Right.

00:28:02.900 Then.

00:28:03.360 Or a big arrow that says that way.

00:28:05.520 That way, towards America.

00:28:06.820 Then we might bomb ourselves.

00:28:08.860 That would be terrible.

00:28:10.100 Terrible.

00:28:10.460 The other thing I don't understand we haven't done is to get this University of Virginia student out of there.

00:28:16.960 Remember the guy who took one of the posters?

00:28:19.200 They were on some trip with his singing group or something, and he saw this propaganda poster, and he just took it down because he wanted a souvenir.

00:28:27.840 He's in a labor camp right now.

00:28:29.840 I mean, they don't know if he's alive or dead.

00:28:32.060 He could very well be dead by now.

00:28:34.100 And he's certainly not going to make it through this if this continues to escalate.

00:28:37.680 No, that's for sure.

00:28:39.220 23 years old.

00:28:40.600 He even read their propaganda piece against the United States trying to get out of this jam, and they still put him in a labor camp.

00:28:49.880 I mean, this is not a military guy.

00:28:54.160 He's not a spy.

00:28:55.820 He's a student who, just for fun, took down a propaganda piece that he wanted a souvenir for.

00:29:03.640 Unbelievable.

00:29:03.960 Can you guys give me one Winston Churchill in the world today?

00:29:08.700 Just give me one.

00:29:10.020 One Winston Churchill?

00:29:11.360 Somebody who is a world leader that has real power and real pulpit that could say, we have to mobilize the rest of the world.

00:29:22.800 It was Winston Churchill that did it.

00:29:24.860 It was not FDR.

00:29:26.240 It wasn't anybody else.

00:29:27.120 It was Winston Churchill.

00:29:29.180 I'm convinced without Winston Churchill, we would all be speaking German.

00:29:35.600 Can you tell me who the Winston Churchill is?

00:29:38.340 I mean, this is the opposite of what happened in the 1930s.

00:29:45.300 We had all of these bad guys rising up.

00:29:49.640 I mean, look at Le Pen.

00:29:52.660 Okay, Franco.

00:29:55.920 The bad guys all throughout Europe that are starting to rise up, those are all just Franco and Hitler, Putin, Stalin.

00:30:04.660 I mean, it's the same thing happening, except in England.

00:30:10.800 Do they have anybody in England?

00:30:14.440 Do we have anybody here?

00:30:16.500 I mean, Donald Trump is probably the best, and he's a guy who just admittedly said to the AP, I didn't know anything about NATO.

00:30:27.740 Yeah, that's why he said it was obsolete.

00:30:29.020 Right, I said it was obsolete because I didn't know.

00:30:31.800 Good God Almighty, he's our commander-in-chief.

00:30:34.100 I mean, maybe it's somebody like Mattis, you know, where you have a guy who...

00:30:38.460 He doesn't have a pulpit, though, but maybe...

00:30:40.200 But he might get, I mean, you know, in those moments, he gets it, right?

00:30:43.440 I mean, and he's certainly, he's one of the guys who's going to be briefing everybody on North Korea in the Senate today.

00:30:49.400 So, I mean, he might be that type of guy.

00:30:51.960 I mean, there are certainly real military brains surrounding this president.

00:30:57.740 Yes, thank God.

00:30:58.720 Yeah.

00:30:59.180 Thank God.

00:30:59.640 Probably the closest one would be Netanyahu.

00:31:04.560 That's the only one I can think of.

00:31:06.400 But, I mean, you know, Israel's not rallying the world around something.

00:31:09.460 No, they can't even rally the world up there.

00:31:11.000 Hey, don't kill us all.

00:31:12.300 Yeah, they can't get anybody to stop killing them.

00:31:14.820 Hey, do you guys mind not firing missiles at us every day at Sbarro?

00:31:18.000 No, we cannot go along with you on that.

00:31:20.020 I'm sorry, Benjamin.

00:31:21.540 That is essentially...

00:31:21.640 I mean, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:31:24.420 But you're right.

00:31:25.060 He's probably the strongest one on seeing things clearly.

00:31:28.200 We've got to hope that this 10 years that we have had as Tea Party people, that these 10 years, those 10-year-olds that we were raising 10 years ago are strong enough and are going to be the future leaders, that there's enough of them out there.

00:31:45.620 I mean, I guess you can hope for that.

00:31:48.380 I think you probably need to take more pragmatic steps, though, in the near term, which is something like, you know, if you have an aircraft carrier, you pull it off the shores of North Korea, and you have Bill Nye and Rachel Bloom just perform constantly that stupid sex song and broadcast it into North Korea.

00:32:02.320 May I say that might work?

00:32:03.060 They might just give our next hour, Bill Nye and my vagina has a voice. 1.00

00:32:10.060 You don't want to miss that.

00:32:11.200 You think Kim Jong-un's making it through that?

00:32:13.200 No.

00:32:13.580 I mean, maybe the first play?

00:32:14.960 And if we have, he still has a, you know, he still has a regime, but after that, he's given up.

00:32:18.900 If we have time when we come back, Kim Jong-un's life set to music.

00:32:26.540 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:32:30.160 Mercury.

00:32:33.820 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:32:36.620 All right.

00:32:37.880 Do you have the Bill O'Reilly audio?

00:32:40.720 The Bill O'Reilly audio from last night, he was basically saying, you're going to be shaken when you hear, he said, I don't think you'll be surprised, but you'll be shaken when you hear the truth about what all of this was.

00:32:54.200 He was, he said, I was disappointed that, you know, that this happened and I'm off of television.

00:33:02.280 I didn't expect it.

00:33:03.320 Didn't see that one coming.

00:33:04.800 He said, but basically watch this space.

00:33:09.620 There's going to be some more information.

00:33:12.020 So there's a lot going on that we don't know about.

00:33:14.540 Yeah, these situations are obviously impossible to talk about because he can't really say anything for a million reasons.

00:33:20.800 Which is so horrible.

00:33:24.560 You know, the court case is.

00:33:26.320 You can't defend yourself.

00:33:26.840 You can't defend yourself.

00:33:27.800 When there's a court case, you just cannot defend yourself.

00:33:30.520 It just sucks.

00:33:30.980 Yeah.

00:33:31.580 Really bad.

00:33:33.260 All right.

00:33:34.100 We've got a couple of great hours for you.

00:33:36.620 We're going to talk a little bit about the denying of science and the miracle birth of Kim Jong-un is also coming up.

00:33:46.640 And you're much more powerful than you think.

00:33:50.000 Special guest Eric Liu is going to be joining us.

00:33:55.040 That's in hour number three.

00:33:57.660 A fascinating conversation.

00:34:00.540 Hour three.

00:34:02.420 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:05.380 Mercury.

00:34:20.560 The Blaze Radio Network.

00:34:25.260 On demand.

00:34:29.060 Hey, what was this weird shot that Donald Trump took at Nikki Haley?

00:34:33.900 Did you see this?

00:34:34.560 Yeah, I don't know.

00:34:36.080 It seemed like he was kind of joking, but a lot of times the Trump stuff start with jokes.

00:34:40.320 His jokes are usually.

00:34:41.000 Yeah, they lead to something sometimes.

00:34:42.760 He just kind of said something like, ah, she's doing a great job, isn't she?

00:34:45.060 I mean, if she's not, we're going to get rid of her.

00:34:47.040 But she's doing a great job.

00:34:48.140 She's doing a great job.

00:34:48.800 Seriously.

00:34:49.340 Seriously.

00:34:49.660 No, she's doing a great job. 0.98

00:34:50.860 It's like, why?

00:34:51.500 What?

00:34:51.820 What does that mean?

00:34:53.100 Weird.

00:34:53.340 And she's been universally praised so far.

00:34:56.580 She's been a superstar.

00:34:58.520 She's been an athlete.

00:34:59.180 Which could be an issue.

00:35:00.500 Right.

00:35:00.860 A lot of times that's not good.

00:35:01.860 Sometimes it is.

00:35:02.920 Not good for your career.

00:35:03.260 Well, I don't think she's getting, I mean, I don't think, you know, she's not a household

00:35:07.880 name.

00:35:08.680 I don't hear everybody say, have you seen our new UN ambassador?

00:35:12.180 But in Washington, in media circles, they are saying her name quite a bit.

00:35:15.860 And that sometimes has an effect.

00:35:17.500 Yeah.

00:35:18.780 We want to talk a little bit also about the latest evidence that Russian hackers are targeting

00:35:24.120 Europe's election.

00:35:25.920 The same Russian hackers that breached the email servers of the DNC are now focusing their

00:35:31.420 attention on European elections.

00:35:32.840 And we have the craziest, we have the craziest proof that the Russians and the former East 1.00

00:35:41.220 Germans are, are actively involved in trying to sway public opinion in America.

00:35:49.040 The good thing is they're not very good at it.

00:35:51.700 We'll give you that.

00:35:52.940 Also, Bill Nye, the science guy, right now.

00:35:59.020 I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand, cause we are one.

00:36:09.180 I will beat my drum, I have made my choice, we will overcome, cause we are one.

00:36:17.800 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:36:21.860 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:36:25.420 So there's, there was this, this pro-science march, which I don't even, I really don't

00:36:34.060 understand.

00:36:35.000 This is how far logic and, and reason have, have left the building.

00:36:42.260 There's none left in the country.

00:36:44.620 Did you see what they are, what they were rallying for, for this pro-science march?

00:36:50.880 Truth?

00:36:51.580 Nothing to do with science.

00:36:52.980 Yeah, nothing to do with science.

00:36:54.040 Okay.

00:36:54.200 What they were rallying for is that this government is anti-science and that they are cutting spending

00:37:03.020 on science, which is not true.

00:37:04.960 They are cutting the increase on the spending on science.

00:37:10.520 Okay.

00:37:10.720 So they're not going to get as much as they were, but they are talking about this, this

00:37:16.380 anti-science mentality and how the government must provide science.

00:37:23.800 You know, I don't have a problem with the government involved in some science.

00:37:28.620 You know, DARPA has been really, really good.

00:37:31.060 However, could we just, could we just take a minute here?

00:37:37.620 Science is only standing up and saying we need more funding from the government because,

00:37:43.760 because they want the government grants.

00:37:45.560 And what does the government grant do to the average scientist?

00:37:48.940 The average scientist will get the government grant because they know what the government

00:37:54.560 is looking for.

00:37:55.740 And so they will, they'll follow that rabbit down the hole.

00:38:00.340 For instance, climate change.

00:38:03.400 But by science getting into bed with the government at this point, the government is the church.

00:38:11.980 We have started to worship our federal government.

00:38:17.220 Government is God.

00:38:18.820 Government issues rights.

00:38:20.640 Government tells you how to live.

00:38:22.880 Government tells you exactly what to do and what not to do.

00:38:26.780 Here are these, these anti-Galileans asking to be locked in the tower.

00:38:36.940 However, it is really crazy what they're doing.

00:38:42.880 And they're all led by the Disney cartoon of a scientist, Bill Nye the Science Guy.

00:38:48.800 That's not true.

00:38:49.220 Who's not a scientist at all.

00:38:50.720 He is an engineer.

00:38:52.480 He's not a scientist.

00:38:54.320 They just named the show Bill Nye the Science Guy because it rhymed.

00:38:58.740 Right.

00:38:58.920 Well, and also you can't say Bill Nye the Scientist because it would be not inaccurate.

00:39:02.640 It would be, it would say.

00:39:03.800 So Science Guy, everybody thought, oh, well, he's a scientist then.

00:39:07.200 No.

00:39:07.580 And he's just comfortable being, you know, talking the language of the people.

00:39:11.600 He's just a science guy.

00:39:12.680 No, it was because he wasn't a scientist.

00:39:14.280 Guys, you know who Bill Nye the Science Guy is?

00:39:17.160 He's the question mark man that we grew up with. 0.99

00:39:20.360 When I was younger, he's the question mark guy.

00:39:22.880 Matthew Lesko?

00:39:23.540 Yes, and I?

00:39:24.260 Yes.

00:39:24.420 Yeah, that's who he is.

00:39:25.340 I think that's a slam on Matthew.

00:39:27.000 Oh, totally.

00:39:27.600 Oh, yeah, totally.

00:39:28.440 And my apologies to the question mark guy.

00:39:30.540 But he was the guy who was like, hey, how can you get money to start your own business?

00:39:36.320 The government's got grants.

00:39:38.600 Write to me in Colorado.

00:39:40.680 Remember?

00:39:41.420 Jeffy's retirement plan.

00:39:42.920 I love that.

00:39:43.520 Legitimately getting grants from the government for shady research.

00:39:46.100 Can you imagine listening to that guy for our science?

00:39:50.180 No.

00:39:51.420 No.

00:39:52.200 He's the question mark guy.

00:39:54.540 Bill Nye is a Disney cartoon.

00:39:58.980 He is as credible as the Disney lab rats talking to you about how to cure cancer.

00:40:07.720 He's a Disney product.

00:40:10.620 It's Britney Spears in a lab coat. 0.99

00:40:14.420 Scratch that.

00:40:15.260 But there would be something appealing about Britney Spears in a lab coat. 1.00

00:40:19.580 More like Hannah Montana in a lab coat. 0.60

00:40:21.660 Yes.

00:40:22.980 And it's interesting.

00:40:25.580 Somebody pointed out that this generation is formed by the idea that they all grew up

00:40:33.180 watching Bill Nye, the science guy, as a children's show.

00:40:37.380 And now they're all adults and they forgot that it was a children's show.

00:40:40.380 Right.

00:40:40.800 It was a show aimed at children.

00:40:43.240 It was intentionally boiling down things.

00:40:47.560 If this is what we need, then hey kids, it's me Barney.

00:40:56.220 Today we've got a Bob North Korea.

00:40:58.560 Would we have a Barney character tell us about anything?

00:41:04.740 Well, Mr. Rogers did do a Cold War special, which we found out recently.

00:41:09.960 He did do a special on the Cold War and again asked for education funding as part of it, which

00:41:16.840 was a bizarre story where there were lost episodes and leaked out onto YouTube recently.

00:41:21.740 Well, here's an episode that I would really like to lose because once you, and we're not,

00:41:27.240 luckily it's radio, so you're not going to be able to see this.

00:41:32.100 But as you're listening to it, realize it is a hundred times worse when you actually are watching it.

00:41:39.140 This actually happened on a Netflix original show.

00:41:42.180 This is something that we feel, this is something we feel necessary to say, this action, in today's world.

00:41:49.040 It really happened.

00:41:50.000 In today's, think of this.

00:41:51.360 Happened.

00:41:51.720 In today's world where, honestly, space aliens could, Anderson Cooper could go on TV tonight

00:42:02.620 and lift up his eyelid and pull it over his head and reveal himself as an alien and we'd

00:42:09.040 be like, huh, in this atmosphere, we have to say, this actually happened.

00:42:16.680 I mean, in all seriousness, it's one of the worst three minutes of entertainment ever put

00:42:22.380 together.

00:42:23.100 And by the way, we've got like five of the top ten, so we know this, we know this is our

00:42:27.540 category.

00:42:28.400 We have all of the, yeah, we are Lifetime Achievement Award winners when it comes to bad

00:42:32.700 entertainment.

00:42:33.240 Yes, this is the worst thing I may have ever seen.

00:42:37.540 Have you ever seen, I didn't even know he had a Netflix show called Bill Nye Saves the

00:42:41.920 World.

00:42:42.460 Yeah.

00:42:42.940 Who knew?

00:42:43.600 And why the hell did Netflix put him on?

00:42:46.660 What, what is the draw of this guy?

00:42:49.760 I, I don't understand it.

00:42:51.700 Okay, so, so here's Bill Nye, the science guy, and he's going to introduce somebody that

00:42:55.740 you, of course, know.

00:42:57.300 And warning, kids, warning, if you have kids in the room, you might, it is, it has a little

00:43:03.240 harsh, dicey language in it, and it's, it's all technical science language, but the song,

00:43:08.580 the song is, remember, and we're the science denier, we are the ones denying science, this

00:43:17.460 is on the science stage this weekend, my vagina has a voice. 1.00

00:43:22.420 So, you guys, seriously, this next thing, I feel, is very special.

00:43:26.740 It's very special.

00:43:27.340 This is a cool little segment.

00:43:28.740 Mm-hmm.

00:43:29.400 You know this woman from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, please give it up for Rachel Bloom. 1.00

00:43:33.980 I don't even know Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. 1.00

00:43:35.240 I don't know her, but, um, okay, for all the bipeds, who identify as ladies, because 1.00

00:43:45.640 that's as close as we could come to calling you, I, I, something that sort of identifies

00:43:50.520 a human being.

00:43:51.400 Right, so, so wait, that's what she said?

00:43:53.100 For all of you bipeds. 1.00

00:43:54.560 That identify as ladies.

00:43:56.120 Okay.

00:43:56.520 All right.

00:43:57.860 But we're the science deniers.

00:43:58.920 All the bars is full of choice, but must I choose between only John or Joyce?

00:44:05.060 All my options only, harder boys, my vagina has its own voice. 1.00

00:44:12.000 Not vocal cords, a metaphorical voice.

00:44:15.800 Sometimes I do a voice for my vagina, please don't tell me I'm going to do it on a day, 1.00

00:44:19.160 so.

00:44:20.460 I think, hang on, stop.

00:44:22.520 I believe that laughter is piped in.

00:44:25.100 Oh, it had to be.

00:44:25.720 I believe that laughter, because they didn't mic, well, they didn't mic the

00:44:28.740 crowd.

00:44:29.340 I don't know if there even is a crowd.

00:44:31.500 I thought there was a live audience, yeah.

00:44:33.340 I mean, he seems to be talking to them at the beginning.

00:44:35.200 Hey, everybody, now this is going to be, it seems like it's a variety show.

00:44:38.300 Yeah.

00:44:38.780 Is he talking to us at home, though?

00:44:40.080 I don't know, I don't, I don't.

00:44:42.000 I've never seen the show, so.

00:44:42.980 I've never seen it either.

00:44:43.680 Oh, oh, oh, much more than either.

00:44:47.140 Oh, oh, oh.

00:44:48.640 So bad.

00:44:50.000 Or a top-off.

00:44:51.820 Versatile love may have some butt stuff. 1.00

00:44:55.200 It's evolution, ain't nothing new.

00:44:58.280 Wow.

00:44:58.740 There's nothing taboo about our sex food.

00:45:02.120 Just add salt, order our day party.

00:45:06.860 French treasure.

00:45:08.620 Cause my sex joke is so, oh, oh, oh.

00:45:12.020 Much more than either.

00:45:14.440 Oh, oh, oh.

00:45:15.340 If they're alive, I'll date them.

00:45:17.200 Channing or genitate them.

00:45:18.900 I'm down for anything.

00:45:20.620 Don't box in my box.

00:45:22.080 Give someone new a handy.

00:45:24.080 Then give yourself props.

00:45:25.500 Oh, you think you're so smart.

00:45:27.420 Did you learn gay in college?

00:45:29.040 Share with all of that while I drop some knowledge.

00:45:32.920 Sexuality.

00:45:33.500 Wow.

00:45:34.120 I can't believe this happened.

00:45:35.240 Okay, stop.

00:45:35.920 I mean, this is.

00:45:36.620 Is there been anything worse ever broadcast?

00:45:39.080 Ever?

00:45:39.420 Ever.

00:45:40.020 I don't think so.

00:45:41.180 Listen to the message.

00:45:43.400 It's science, Glenn.

00:45:44.980 I know.

00:45:45.500 They're singing science.

00:45:46.500 My vagina has a voice. 1.00

00:45:47.940 Hey, how are you?

00:45:50.080 I'm Bill.

00:45:51.060 Bill the vagina. 1.00

00:45:53.500 Yesterday I was Carol, but today I'm Bill the vagina. 0.92

00:45:58.340 Taking your calls now.

00:46:00.000 Hello.

00:46:00.740 I'm listening.

00:46:01.680 Go ahead.

00:46:02.760 Yes, Peter.

00:46:04.160 Come in a little closer.

00:46:05.520 What were you saying?

00:46:08.540 I mean, jeez.

00:46:11.160 Is that the voice she does?

00:46:12.620 Yeah, that's the voice.

00:46:13.400 Is that the voice she does?

00:46:14.120 How you doing?

00:46:15.240 Give us a hug.

00:46:16.980 Whoa.

00:46:17.540 Oh, let me tell you something.

00:46:21.240 That is really.

00:46:22.700 I was vomiting out a child the other day.

00:46:25.900 Oh, my gosh.

00:46:27.760 Split my face wide open.

00:46:30.400 Okay.

00:46:31.380 This is why.

00:46:32.980 The issue here is.

00:46:35.120 One.

00:46:36.140 If your vagina could talk, this is what it'd be saying. 1.00

00:46:39.400 Okay.

00:46:40.860 I would.

00:46:41.500 I think maybe you should stop talking.

00:46:42.640 Yeah, no, I was thinking maybe that was the good.

00:46:45.680 But like a lot of people.

00:46:46.560 What are you ashamed of me?

00:46:48.440 Yes.

00:46:49.320 We are ashamed of you.

00:46:50.560 Yes.

00:46:51.020 Very ashamed of you.

00:46:52.420 And again, now we've broken the record of Bill Nye for the worst moment in broadcast history,

00:46:56.580 which is, I'm glad you reclaimed the title.

00:46:58.160 It's interesting because a lot of people are offended over the content and the message of that, which, you know, it's like she's saying, what was it?

00:47:07.900 Am I, you know, basically saying I can't be assigned to sex?

00:47:12.320 Yeah.

00:47:12.680 But really.

00:47:13.260 But that's science?

00:47:13.920 That's science.

00:47:14.660 That's science.

00:47:15.460 But really, like, I'm much more offended at how terrible it is.

00:47:19.800 It's like, I don't, they could be saying anything, and I don't think it would overcome just how awful a production it is.

00:47:26.320 No, it's unbelievably bad.

00:47:28.460 Horrific.

00:47:29.220 What could they possibly have been thinking?

00:47:31.600 You're still freaking out that my vagina has a voice. 1.00

00:47:34.780 No, I know.

00:47:35.240 But my butthole has a stink beyond your wildest imagination. 1.00

00:47:40.040 You've set the record already.

00:47:41.700 You don't need to further it.

00:47:42.880 This is like...

00:47:43.920 Whoa.

00:47:45.340 Whoa.

00:47:46.580 This is like, you already scored 101 points.

00:47:48.980 You don't need to go for 130.

00:47:51.000 Wilt.

00:47:52.880 It's like, just calm down.

00:47:56.760 Wow.

00:47:57.460 That is absolutely unbelievable, though.

00:47:59.900 I mean, seriously, how, in good conscience, as a person who works in the entertainment industry, how could you let that on the air?

00:48:07.720 That's something you light fire to the tapes before they get it to Netflix.

00:48:11.560 Here's the thing.

00:48:12.460 Netflix has spent a lot of money on that.

00:48:16.580 There's nobody at Netflix that goes, yeah, well, my head has a mouth, and my mouth has a voice.

00:48:24.640 You're fired.

00:48:25.560 Get out.

00:48:26.860 Well, I mean, I think the point with Netflix is, you know, it's not like they're broadcasting.

00:48:31.220 It's the benefit of Netflix.

00:48:32.440 They can put a bunch of crap on there, too.

00:48:34.020 They've got a lot of great shows.

00:48:35.020 At some point, doesn't some shareholder go, come on?

00:48:38.920 And they might.

00:48:39.580 No, it's...

00:48:40.160 Right?

00:48:40.500 They might.

00:48:40.840 I mean, he's had this one season.

00:48:42.960 But this doesn't cancel your...

00:48:44.880 No one cancels a subscription over this, do they?

00:48:47.120 No.

00:48:47.480 There's so many other great shows.

00:48:49.680 And so maybe it brings in some crazy nutjob liberal that subscribes and thinks it's good. 0.90

00:48:54.720 I mean, maybe Bill Nye's...

00:48:56.640 Someone in Bill Nye's family...

00:48:58.160 But here's the problem.

00:48:58.980 ...subscribes because of the show.

00:49:00.280 Here's the problem.

00:49:00.620 This is why, I mean, are you seeing anybody who was conservative?

00:49:06.880 Crazy, you know, doing a show like that on...

00:49:09.540 No, and thank God!

00:49:10.300 No, I know that.

00:49:11.080 But they'll put anything on as long as it's liberal.

00:49:14.020 As long as it's liberal, progressive, doesn't matter.

00:49:17.040 I mean, you know, the idea that the left has gone after Fox News, you're only thinning the herd by making conservative views a pariah.

00:49:35.780 What you do is you only allow the strongest or the craziest to stand.

00:49:45.220 And so we'll stand.

00:49:47.180 I'm telling you, we're going to continue to stand even if I have to do it under a tree.

00:49:51.840 I'm going to be doing...

00:49:53.060 I'm going to be saying my view under a tree if it's only with three people.

00:49:56.300 That's okay.

00:49:57.060 You're not shutting me up.

00:49:58.420 But the ones who last, after you clear out all...

00:50:04.240 If you make it uncomfortable for the normal people to say something, the only ones that are left are the truly dedicated or the nutjobs that will just get some other nutjob to pay for it. 0.59

00:50:16.500 Well, that and, of course, obviously all the vaginas with voices. 1.00

00:50:19.340 They will always speak out.

00:50:20.680 They're always there to speak out to America.

00:50:23.800 My vagina has a voice, but conservatives don't. 1.00

00:50:28.420 We should write a song.

00:50:30.900 My vagina has a voice, but conservatives don't. 1.00

00:50:33.580 Hard joke, okay.

00:50:34.580 They have just broken the V-word record all time, too, right here.

00:50:38.080 No, I don't believe so.

00:50:40.300 It's possible.

00:50:41.520 It's, again, in a science discussion.

00:50:44.100 These things are allowed.

00:50:47.380 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:50:51.240 Mercury.

00:50:55.620 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:50:58.420 Has Caitlyn Jenner had the sex reassignment surgery yet?

00:51:01.960 I read that she had.

00:51:03.900 So, I mean, it's official.

00:51:05.840 That is a commitment.

00:51:07.440 Yeah, that...

00:51:08.080 Yes.

00:51:08.840 And, man, I just want...

00:51:12.820 I just want her to have happiness.

00:51:15.600 You know what I mean?

00:51:16.300 So she's at peace now.

00:51:17.720 Really?

00:51:18.180 Yeah.

00:51:18.480 Because that's usually not what happens.

00:51:20.800 Yeah.

00:51:21.040 And I hope that is true.

00:51:22.660 Yeah.

00:51:23.700 I saw a clip of her last night with Tucker Carlson.

00:51:27.880 And he, she said that, you know, she would rather try to soften the conservatives on their, you know, gay and lesbians stance.

00:51:44.220 Yeah.

00:51:44.320 Than trying to convince the...

00:51:48.160 Democrats of tax cuts.

00:51:49.400 Yeah.

00:51:49.800 Yeah.

00:51:50.080 You watch that clip?

00:51:50.960 Yeah.

00:51:51.660 Did you think of...

00:51:52.540 Did you think of Norton?

00:51:54.320 Yes.

00:51:54.660 Jim Norton.

00:51:54.900 Jim Norton.

00:51:55.240 Yes, I did.

00:51:56.220 Jim Norton.

00:51:57.060 Yes, I did.

00:51:57.620 Jim Norton said, okay, I'm just going to say it.

00:52:00.660 I'm just going to say it.

00:52:02.260 Everybody says that, oh, Caitlyn's so beautiful.

00:52:04.940 She's not.

00:52:07.400 And I will tell you, last night was not her best night.

00:52:10.260 No.

00:52:10.600 It was not her best night.

00:52:11.220 Plus, it shouldn't be a prerequisite that everybody thinks the same way about a person's attractiveness.

00:52:18.120 Right?

00:52:18.400 Do we all have to think the same way?

00:52:21.080 I thought that was supposed to be diversity.

00:52:22.480 I thought diversity was worshipped in this country.

00:52:25.080 Well, you can think she's beautiful, and I'll think not so much.

00:52:27.880 Not so much.

00:52:28.700 Right?

00:52:29.040 Yay.

00:52:29.280 Not so much.

00:52:29.700 So that's diversity.

00:52:30.520 Both sides of the issue.

00:52:30.980 That's inclusion.

00:52:32.600 Because now it has become, this even happened with, what's her face, Lena Dunham.

00:52:36.860 Someone in the audience said, why am I always seeing you naked on the show?

00:52:40.540 I mean, I really don't want to see that.

00:52:42.120 And that was like, how dare you not want to see me naked?

00:52:46.180 How dare you?

00:52:47.680 Is that because I'm not perfect?

00:52:49.020 Is that because I'm not what you, you desire?

00:52:51.520 Well, yeah.

00:52:52.060 That's great.

00:52:52.580 Pretty much.

00:52:53.480 It is because of that.

00:52:55.760 I think kind of terrible.

00:52:56.900 So, yeah, sorry.

00:52:58.060 And then this was so, but that's now a measure of hatred.

00:53:01.000 You will conform.

00:53:01.940 If you don't like the woman who.

00:53:03.620 You will conform.

00:53:05.120 Yeah.

00:53:05.780 We'll all be assimilated. 0.96

00:53:06.580 Let me explain it to you.

00:53:08.840 No, please.

00:53:09.680 No, no, no.

00:53:10.200 I've got a voice.

00:53:11.000 Oh, no.

00:53:11.220 I finally have a voice.

00:53:12.980 No, please don't.

00:53:13.520 Let me explain how this all works.

00:53:16.400 We're all out of time.

00:53:18.200 We are much.

00:53:21.440 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:53:24.840 Mercury.

00:53:25.280 Mercury.

00:53:28.060 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:53:30.860 Hey, do you see this?

00:53:32.580 Barack Obama has just given his first paid speaking gig, or is about to, at Cantor Fitzgerald

00:53:45.380 Healthcare Conference this September.

00:53:47.500 And surely he did that.

00:53:48.600 He's going to do it for free.

00:53:50.240 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:53:50.820 And donate all the proceeds that he would have gotten to some really worthy charity for feeding

00:53:56.520 children.

00:53:57.000 No, he's not.

00:53:57.920 And eliminating inequality.

00:53:59.340 You know what?

00:54:00.280 He's earned his money.

00:54:03.040 He's spent his time.

00:54:04.560 That's true.

00:54:05.360 Serving.

00:54:06.040 Right.

00:54:06.560 Right.

00:54:06.640 So we've got to get him a chance to make some money.

00:54:09.600 That's right.

00:54:10.180 So he's going to give this hour-long speech, and he's only charging $400,000.

00:54:16.920 Is that all?

00:54:17.900 That's all.

00:54:19.180 Now, he could have charged a million.

00:54:21.240 But he didn't.

00:54:21.600 But he didn't.

00:54:22.120 He charged 40% of that.

00:54:24.200 That's huge.

00:54:25.560 That's a, what a magnanimous gesture.

00:54:28.260 Remember when Hillary Clinton got in trouble for the $250,000? 0.99

00:54:34.460 $250,000 for speaking to who?

00:54:37.760 Who?

00:54:38.960 Oh, I remember the Wall Street crowd.

00:54:42.080 All right.

00:54:42.460 He's talking to Cantor Fitzgerald's health care department.

00:54:48.840 So it's Wall Street health care.

00:54:51.620 Jeez.

00:54:52.520 $400,000.

00:54:53.740 $400,000.

00:54:54.800 I'm telling you, I don't know how we just don't eat each other.

00:55:01.280 The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

00:55:02.080 How we don't eat each other.

00:55:03.980 When the hypocrisy becomes clear, you know, I said this yesterday, the Clintons are done.

00:55:12.240 The Clintons are done.

00:55:14.060 I mean, I know people who really like the Clintons and supported the Clintons, who now look at Hillary Clinton in particular, and they're like, I'm so done with her.

00:55:23.020 She is nothing but corrupt. 1.00

00:55:26.240 And so they're just done.

00:55:27.960 Well, you knew that when you got in.

00:55:29.560 They knew that all along.

00:55:32.020 I mean, I know they're done now, but I'm just saying they knew it all along.

00:55:36.400 But they denied and wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt.

00:55:40.200 It's, you know, we all are like that.

00:55:42.220 And we have to admit it.

00:55:43.840 We all are like that.

00:55:45.100 We give people we want to believe, this cognizant dissidence, where we want to give people we like the benefit of the doubt.

00:55:57.260 But you can only do it so long before there's a crack.

00:56:00.240 And the crack with the Clintons has come.

00:56:03.880 And it's going to come with Obama.

00:56:06.980 And it's going to come with Donald Trump, too.

00:56:09.840 I mean, right now, Donald Trump, you know, on this 100-day thing, you know, why are supporters still supporting him?

00:56:17.740 Well, look at the way the question was worded.

00:56:19.720 First of all, the question was worded, would you vote for him again?

00:56:23.280 If you had to do it all over again, would you vote for him again?

00:56:25.720 Yes, because my choice was Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:56:31.280 So, yes.

00:56:33.000 And the same thing would be said with Hillary.

00:56:36.140 Now that you've seen how bad Hillary Clinton really messed it up, would you vote for her again? 0.82

00:56:42.300 Yes, because it's Donald Trump.

00:56:46.120 So, the question is meaningless at this point.

00:56:50.500 The second thing that Donald Trump has really mastered is he is everything to everybody with his supporters.

00:57:04.000 Look at what he's doing with health care.

00:57:06.600 He actually went on the road and promised to half of his supporters,

00:57:12.600 I'm going to repeal, we're going back to medicine the way America does medicine. 1.00

00:57:17.920 The other half, he promised, I'm going to give you more.

00:57:22.440 I'm going to give you more health care.

00:57:23.740 In fact, I'm going to have government-run health care.

00:57:26.080 Single-payer system, we pay for all of it.

00:57:30.360 So, right now, in the 100 days, where he hasn't proposed or gotten anything through,

00:57:36.560 the press is looking at this and saying, how come they're sticking with him?

00:57:40.260 Because they believe he's still fighting for them.

00:57:42.740 The more information that he actually puts down on the table, notice what happened?

00:57:48.540 When he actually went after the health care, what happened?

00:57:52.260 His coalition started to crack.

00:57:55.120 So, what did he do?

00:57:57.160 Nothing.

00:57:59.040 Don't propose anything.

00:58:01.440 You watch.

00:58:02.040 With this tax thing that he's going to release tomorrow.

00:58:07.500 If it is a really substantial tax reduction, and it's big thinking, his people will be behind him.

00:58:20.460 If it's wishy-washy, nope.

00:58:24.080 Well, they're saying now that they don't think they'll actually attempt a tax reform plan.

00:58:28.560 They will instead attempt to do a tax cut, which is different because the tax cut only will need to get to 51 votes.

00:58:40.420 So, what they're planning on attempting here is essentially what Bush got done, which expires in 10 years.

00:58:46.740 Oh, my gosh.

00:58:47.520 Now, look, if I could get 10 years of lower rates, I'm on board.

00:58:52.740 And they're talking about cutting the corporate rate from 35 to 15 as part of that plan, which would be huge.

00:59:00.020 It would be.

00:59:00.400 It would be legitimately beneficial to the country if that can happen.

00:59:04.040 And you've got to believe that most Republicans would get on board for that.

00:59:09.460 Most Democrats won't.

00:59:10.980 All Democrats won't.

00:59:12.260 I don't think there's a chance of getting any Democrat votes.

00:59:14.140 Maybe you get Manchin, which at this point in West Virginia, I think he's almost a Republican.

00:59:19.420 Because he knows he can't really vote against Donald Trump and win a seat.

00:59:24.300 But, I mean, you look at that and that would be interesting.

00:59:27.260 In 10 years, you know, that's good.

00:59:29.340 But it would not be the full reform that, obviously, they were talking about initially.

00:59:35.040 So, the more he does, the more he'll define himself by his actual enacted policies.

00:59:43.400 So, this 100 days of him not actually doing anything actually works to his advantage.

00:59:50.060 Well, he says he's done more than anybody ever has.

00:59:52.120 But he's done it on executive orders.

00:59:54.380 But walk me through this move, Glenn, as a strategist.

00:59:57.980 Yes.

00:59:58.180 Okay.

00:59:58.980 He comes out and the budget's about to potentially go through.

01:00:03.240 Another continuing resolution.

01:00:04.920 It's not really a budget.

01:00:06.140 And it gets you a few more months of paying for the government so it doesn't shut down.

01:00:11.000 Right?

01:00:11.320 Quote, unquote, shut down.

01:00:13.400 So, they're in the middle of doing this.

01:00:14.920 It looks like it's going to go through without a hitch.

01:00:16.780 And then Trump and his administration starts leaking that they will not approve this.

01:00:22.880 They will not go along with this without the border wall funding.

01:00:27.180 Okay?

01:00:27.800 So, then that turns into a big story.

01:00:29.900 Now we might have a government shutdown. 0.93

01:00:31.340 Democrats don't want it. 0.99

01:00:32.260 Some Republicans don't want the border wall.

01:00:33.840 We're not going to give you that $1.4 billion.

01:00:35.880 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:00:37.140 It's this big thing.

01:00:38.160 It blows up into this big issue.

01:00:40.280 And everyone's talking about a government shutdown all of a sudden.

01:00:42.660 And then today, he announces, actually, I don't need the border wall funding anymore.

01:00:47.720 I'm willing to back off on that to get this done.

01:00:50.500 Now, if you were willing to back off on it, why would you make a big deal out of it and turn this news cycle into a giant conversation about government shutdown?

01:01:02.300 Which, everywhere it's reported on both left and right, both good and bad, it's Trump's doing.

01:01:07.720 Right?

01:01:07.900 Like, he wanted the funding.

01:01:09.340 And he was the one pushing for it.

01:01:10.880 And then as soon as there's any pushback, you just back off of it and then get nothing out of it anyway.

01:01:15.920 There are those people that truly believe at least they're talking about me.

01:01:21.700 Yeah, and I was wondering, is that it?

01:01:23.660 It could be.

01:01:24.260 I don't know.

01:01:24.720 Is it just, you know what?

01:01:25.780 He can now say he tried to get the border wall and, oh, well, couldn't get it done.

01:01:31.040 Because now they're saying they won't get border wall funding until next year, which, by the way, is an election year.

01:01:36.200 So if you think that the border wall is going to be easier to fund during an election year, good luck with that.

01:01:41.160 You're going to have to fight all over again.

01:01:43.200 You're going to have to have this fight of you're a racist all over again.

01:01:48.800 And as we said, they're never going to build it.

01:01:52.260 They never had any intention of building it.

01:01:55.700 It's just not going to get done.

01:01:57.900 I really want to have a conversation.

01:02:01.780 Anderson Cooper said last week when I told the story, and I think I said this yesterday,

01:02:05.360 when I told the story about George Bush saying, don't worry, whoever's in the office is going to do pretty much exactly what I've done.

01:02:10.920 Well, Obama did that, and now Trump is doing that.

01:02:14.480 So I really think as a country, we need to have the discussion, who's really running this place?

01:02:19.920 Who's really running this?

01:02:24.140 You know, that's the question that France is asking.

01:02:27.440 Who's really running this?

01:02:28.740 And unless you can get in and actually make and listen to the people, they don't understand.

01:02:38.220 The media is so stupid.

01:02:40.700 They don't understand that what the people are saying on nationalism.

01:02:46.060 It's not a it's not a rah, rah, rah.

01:02:49.740 I want everybody else to die.

01:02:52.120 It's more of like Texas.

01:02:54.020 The reason why I used to love the Texas attitude, and I say used to because it's not here as much anymore.

01:03:01.160 But back when I lived here in the 80s and the 90s, Texans had this attitude.

01:03:06.500 They love Texas and people would they'd say all the time.

01:03:08.920 Oh, man, I hear I hear Massachusetts is great.

01:03:12.560 It's not Texas, but I hear it's great.

01:03:14.800 They'd say that all the time.

01:03:16.720 And they meant it.

01:03:17.820 Oh, I hear I hear California.

01:03:20.480 I hear parts of California are great.

01:03:23.680 Yeah, sounds beautiful.

01:03:26.240 It's not Texas.

01:03:27.320 Have you ever been to wherever?

01:03:29.600 So they had this this appreciation for everything else, but they had they love for Texas.

01:03:35.900 And I think that's the way that people want to feel about their country.

01:03:41.280 They don't want to hate everything else.

01:03:43.640 They don't want to they want to love their town.

01:03:48.600 They want to love their team.

01:03:50.360 They want to love their state.

01:03:52.040 They want to live there.

01:03:53.040 Love their country.

01:03:54.080 But if you use Europe, you're not allowed to love Italy and be proudly Italian.

01:04:00.960 You're not allowed to be proudly German. 1.00

01:04:04.000 You're a racist.

01:04:05.120 You're a xenophobe.

01:04:06.900 No, I like my culture, just like the people in the Middle East like their culture.

01:04:12.300 I like my culture.

01:04:14.780 My culture has value.

01:04:17.980 And because no one is listening to this and we're all being made into exactly the same thing,

01:04:24.620 you're going to have diversity of thought here.

01:04:27.880 And I'm going to tell you exactly what you're going to like and don't like.

01:04:32.080 And if you say anything different, then you are that racist xenophobe.

01:04:37.040 There's no diversity of thought there.

01:04:39.020 And until we address that, until we actually have that conversation,

01:04:49.120 we're going to be looking for somebody more and more extreme to break the system.

01:04:55.680 If Donald Trump can't get these things done, everybody said last time,

01:05:03.480 I just, you know what, I just want to burn the whole system down.

01:05:05.460 It's not functioning.

01:05:06.920 It's not listening.

01:05:08.160 It's not functioning.

01:05:09.040 If Donald Trump becomes the system, those people who last time said,

01:05:15.160 I want it to burn down, how many will be, how many will join them?

01:05:19.780 And how many will join them going, you know what, Donald Trump couldn't get it done.

01:05:25.480 I want some of this guy who will get it done.

01:05:28.280 You just go more and more extreme.

01:05:31.700 We have to have real conversations about the real problems without all of this political correct nonsense.

01:05:39.940 I am willing, an example earlier, I am willing to call Bruce Jenner, Caitlyn Jenner.

01:05:51.260 I'm willing to, not only willing, I find it impossible not to have empathy for him his entire life

01:05:59.500 and her for what she's going through.

01:06:01.960 She's had the sex change operation. 1.00

01:06:04.540 I'm willing to call her her.

01:06:06.880 I'm not willing to say, oh my gosh, isn't she beautiful?

01:06:09.940 I mean, that should be fair, right?

01:06:15.420 It should be fair.

01:06:16.840 If transgendered people are equal to us, which we believe they are, 0.89

01:06:20.860 then some of them are going to be probably pretty ugly.

01:06:23.760 Yeah.

01:06:24.300 And some of them might be beautiful.

01:06:25.880 There's some heterosexuals that are pretty freaking ugly. 0.87

01:06:28.420 And not only that, let's stop denying science.

01:06:31.120 A woman with a penis is not a woman. 1.00

01:06:34.360 No matter how you feel.

01:06:35.620 That's called a man.

01:06:36.560 No matter how you feel.

01:06:38.680 You can say it with anything you want, but that doesn't change your physiology.

01:06:43.300 I mean, you can look at some of the worst people in the world.

01:06:46.220 Mao.

01:06:47.620 I really feel this.

01:06:49.460 I really feel like this idea on farming is going to work.

01:06:54.100 Oh, it didn't.

01:06:55.400 Yeah, but I feel it's going to work this year.

01:06:57.960 Well, it didn't.

01:06:58.780 It's also like the 1984, 2 plus 2 equals 5.

01:07:03.780 Yes.

01:07:04.260 We're supposed to believe.

01:07:05.460 Correct.

01:07:05.780 Isn't that what this transgender thing really is? 1.00

01:07:08.160 2 plus 2 equals 5.

01:07:09.460 No, it doesn't.

01:07:11.200 A woman with a penis does not equal a woman. 1.00

01:07:14.680 Wow.

01:07:15.080 That's a man.

01:07:16.260 It's a man.

01:07:17.480 We don't even have to get there.

01:07:18.820 We just have to do...

01:07:20.060 Look at what we're dealing with.

01:07:22.780 We've got to get back to the basics.

01:07:24.360 We just have to get back to the basics.

01:07:27.920 We're going to try to do that next hour.

01:07:31.460 This is...

01:07:33.020 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:07:36.880 Mercury.

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01:07:44.560 I'm so glad you're here.

01:07:47.480 Pray for a very peaceful night.

01:07:49.240 It's nighttime now.

01:07:50.420 It's 1130.

01:07:51.160 Almost midnight now in North Korea.

01:07:58.400 Pray for a peaceful night.

01:08:00.700 We have the Senate going to the White House tomorrow

01:08:03.640 to be briefed on North Korea.

01:08:06.260 Never seen that happen before.

01:08:08.980 And we just need a peaceful resolution to this

01:08:13.180 because this is World War III style problems

01:08:18.720 if we don't.

01:08:21.420 Pray for our country.

01:08:22.980 Pray for our leaders.

01:08:24.420 And pray that we all take a deep breath.

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01:08:54.080 Hello, America.

01:08:57.460 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:08:59.660 This hour...

01:09:02.520 You're more powerful than you think.

01:09:07.360 What does that really mean to you?

01:09:10.800 The entire world is convincing you that you are powerless.

01:09:15.300 And we believe a lie, in many regards, about power.

01:09:22.540 What we think of as power

01:09:25.400 is truly the exact opposite of true power.

01:09:28.880 We'll show you a way to reconnect and short-circuit the old thinking

01:09:38.020 and create new thinking, beginning right now.

01:09:42.020 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:10:04.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:10:08.040 Eric Liu is a new friend.

01:10:14.780 We started to get to know each other maybe two months ago.

01:10:18.240 He came down from his hometown of Seattle, which is also my hometown.

01:10:22.980 He is the CEO of Citizenship University.

01:10:26.180 He teaches civics at the University of Washington.

01:10:30.100 Just that is enough to say,

01:10:32.300 I don't think we're going to have a lot in common.

01:10:34.320 He was described by a mutual friend of ours, Matt Kibbe,

01:10:42.260 as a progressive who wants to talk to the other side.

01:10:46.460 And I sat down in my office with Eric,

01:10:51.720 and I said,

01:10:52.780 this is going to be an interesting conversation.

01:10:55.000 And you pretty much, if I remember correctly,

01:10:57.680 started the conversation with,

01:10:59.680 I'm not an early 20th century American progressive.

01:11:03.500 Am I remembering that right?

01:11:05.560 Or did I hear that in my...

01:11:07.060 You asked if I was.

01:11:08.500 Yes.

01:11:09.680 And so your answer was...

01:11:11.840 Well, my answer was,

01:11:13.360 I'm a progressive in the sense,

01:11:16.320 simply that I believe that you can't just let things be.

01:11:21.440 I think that a society,

01:11:25.160 a community,

01:11:26.480 a political system,

01:11:27.340 an economy is like a garden.

01:11:29.560 You know, when you leave things be,

01:11:31.140 for a while,

01:11:31.760 things grow awesome.

01:11:32.800 They're great, right?

01:11:33.700 They grow like gangbusters.

01:11:35.040 But after a certain point,

01:11:36.320 noxious weeds take over.

01:11:37.840 Mm-hmm.

01:11:38.380 And they start to kill the whole thing.

01:11:40.120 And after a little while of letting things go,

01:11:42.880 the garden tips over and it dies.

01:11:43.860 Well, there's a difference between that

01:11:45.640 and to use your garden,

01:11:47.380 let me take it to a farm,

01:11:48.660 Theodore Roosevelt,

01:11:49.600 so I'll take it out on the Republicans,

01:11:51.580 talked about breeding of humans

01:11:54.680 and compared it to breeding of cattle.

01:11:56.980 Yeah.

01:11:57.420 Because noxious weeds,

01:11:59.140 people will marry 0.99

01:11:59.840 and they're too stupid 0.89

01:12:00.560 to know who to marry

01:12:01.320 and who not to marry.

01:12:02.400 I mean, there is a place

01:12:04.200 to where the farmer

01:12:05.140 or the rancher takes it too far.

01:12:07.120 Mm-hmm.

01:12:07.960 Yeah.

01:12:08.380 Well, I think, you know,

01:12:09.680 there is a good wide open space

01:12:11.360 between...

01:12:12.120 Yes.

01:12:12.380 That vision of,

01:12:14.240 hey, we are citizen gardeners.

01:12:15.900 We own responsibility

01:12:16.680 for making sure

01:12:17.660 that we tend,

01:12:19.600 that we weed,

01:12:20.280 that we see,

01:12:20.840 that we feed the plot

01:12:22.200 between that

01:12:23.000 and eugenics

01:12:25.160 and, you know,

01:12:26.080 that whole worldview.

01:12:27.580 This is just a personal thing for us,

01:12:29.280 but would you mind using an analogy

01:12:30.940 that isn't related to vegetables?

01:12:33.140 Because we...

01:12:33.740 We're not familiar...

01:12:35.040 You don't get what I'm talking about.

01:12:35.860 Yeah, no, we just don't understand.

01:12:36.920 He's a vegetarian

01:12:37.860 and he still doesn't even understand them.

01:12:40.140 He's like,

01:12:40.440 he hates the fact

01:12:41.800 that he's a vegetarian.

01:12:43.860 You write,

01:12:45.380 why do most people think

01:12:46.620 dirty power is a dirty word?

01:12:48.460 Because they think

01:12:49.160 it means coercion and violence.

01:12:50.940 They associate it

01:12:51.540 with the worst in human nature.

01:12:53.440 And if I can summarize

01:12:54.640 a couple of things

01:12:55.560 that you say,

01:12:56.920 there are three laws of power.

01:12:58.560 The first,

01:12:59.320 power concentrates,

01:13:00.560 that it feeds itself

01:13:01.700 and it compounds,

01:13:02.840 as does powerlessness.

01:13:04.480 Second,

01:13:05.120 power justifies itself.

01:13:07.000 People invent stories

01:13:08.180 to legitimize

01:13:09.000 the power that they have.

01:13:10.360 And third,

01:13:11.100 power is infinite.

01:13:12.040 There's no inherent limit

01:13:13.400 to the amount of power

01:13:14.240 people can create.

01:13:15.600 Take me through

01:13:16.420 those three points.

01:13:18.380 Yeah.

01:13:18.940 These are pretty fundamental

01:13:20.100 to any understanding,

01:13:21.140 I think,

01:13:21.580 of whether you're

01:13:22.700 on the right or the left,

01:13:23.760 how we live

01:13:24.720 in this incredible age

01:13:25.960 right now

01:13:26.480 of bottom-up citizen power.

01:13:28.260 People all across the board

01:13:29.700 are knocking over

01:13:30.660 entrenched monopolies,

01:13:32.000 knocking over entrenched systems

01:13:33.580 of status quo.

01:13:35.360 And so when you look

01:13:35.980 at those three laws,

01:13:36.860 number one,

01:13:37.760 power concentrates.

01:13:39.300 You know,

01:13:39.500 when you have it,

01:13:40.060 you tend to get more.

01:13:41.220 When you don't have it,

01:13:41.880 you tend to get less, right?

01:13:43.140 And that plays out

01:13:43.940 in economic terms

01:13:45.380 in terms of the rich

01:13:46.200 get richer and so forth.

01:13:47.360 But it's also political, right?

01:13:49.500 You see it,

01:13:50.400 you see it honestly

01:13:51.240 with the conservatives.

01:13:53.820 Progressives have control

01:13:54.860 of much of the media

01:13:55.960 and the conservatives

01:13:57.960 struggle to have

01:14:00.140 a toehold

01:14:01.200 in that media

01:14:02.160 and we seem

01:14:03.340 to get less and less.

01:14:05.160 Well, I think that's right.

01:14:06.020 I mean,

01:14:06.140 I think there is a way

01:14:07.660 in which system,

01:14:08.440 well, okay,

01:14:08.860 so that's number one,

01:14:09.640 power concentrates.

01:14:10.860 But what you're touching on

01:14:12.100 is also law number two,

01:14:13.660 power justifies itself, right?

01:14:15.720 So power,

01:14:16.540 people who tend

01:14:17.240 to be in power

01:14:18.140 and from your perspective,

01:14:19.540 that's progressives

01:14:20.300 in the media

01:14:20.840 for other times

01:14:22.780 in American history.

01:14:23.740 Well, let's take it

01:14:24.220 in your field,

01:14:25.540 I mean,

01:14:25.800 in the university,

01:14:27.420 you can't tell me

01:14:28.260 that you think

01:14:28.920 that progressives

01:14:29.800 don't control

01:14:31.840 the universities

01:14:32.640 and manipulate

01:14:33.480 and justify itself.

01:14:35.120 Well, I think

01:14:36.040 progressives dominate

01:14:37.000 the academy,

01:14:38.800 progressives dominate

01:14:39.540 the media, right?

01:14:40.340 But domination

01:14:41.200 is one thing,

01:14:41.960 it's justifying itself

01:14:43.180 as telling these

01:14:43.960 just so stories

01:14:44.880 about why that

01:14:45.620 ought to be so, right?

01:14:47.000 And so an example

01:14:49.060 that I'll use

01:14:49.680 more from the left

01:14:50.480 is the classic case

01:14:52.040 is trickle-down economics.

01:14:54.100 To me,

01:14:54.500 the idea that

01:14:55.340 people who are already

01:14:56.420 wealthy and already

01:14:57.100 privileged telling you,

01:14:58.200 you've got to take

01:14:58.860 good care of us, man,

01:14:59.660 you've got to coddle us

01:15:00.460 and make sure you give us

01:15:01.200 nice tax breaks

01:15:02.080 because that's the only way

01:15:03.680 any of my wealth

01:15:04.360 is going to leak down

01:15:05.080 to the rest of you, right?

01:15:07.220 Economic theory tells you

01:15:08.400 there's not actually

01:15:09.120 a whole lot of truth to that,

01:15:10.440 but it is a story,

01:15:11.780 it is a way of justifying

01:15:12.900 people having what they have, right?

01:15:14.620 And white supremacy

01:15:16.500 has always been

01:15:17.820 that kind of storyline,

01:15:19.360 you know,

01:15:19.680 that, hey, look,

01:15:20.640 whites are better 1.00

01:15:21.620 and more suited

01:15:22.340 for governing

01:15:22.880 and governing themselves

01:15:23.700 and running the show

01:15:24.400 than non-whites, 0.58

01:15:25.180 so this just ought to be

01:15:26.300 the way it is, right?

01:15:27.340 You non-whites ought not 1.00

01:15:28.700 to be kind of crowding

01:15:29.560 into the public square.

01:15:30.960 So if all you had

01:15:32.280 were these two laws here

01:15:33.400 that power compounds

01:15:34.380 and it justifies itself,

01:15:36.320 you get into

01:15:36.880 a pretty grim doom loop, right?

01:15:38.580 You get into a situation,

01:15:40.260 well, you get into

01:15:41.500 a dictatorial authoritarian situation.

01:15:43.300 The only thing

01:15:44.440 that busts you out

01:15:45.200 of that doom loop

01:15:45.920 is law number three,

01:15:47.820 which is that power

01:15:48.620 is infinite

01:15:49.660 and that people,

01:15:51.180 wherever they are,

01:15:52.060 even if they're outside

01:15:53.020 those circles

01:15:53.680 of concentrated power,

01:15:55.020 can generate new

01:15:56.240 countervailing power

01:15:57.380 out of thin air

01:15:58.840 simply by organizing.

01:16:00.980 And, you know,

01:16:01.880 I actually,

01:16:02.460 on the road,

01:16:03.420 have been completely

01:16:05.000 consistent in saying

01:16:06.000 Exhibit A

01:16:06.900 is the Tea Party.

01:16:09.000 The Tea Party,

01:16:10.640 2010,

01:16:11.720 arrived without clout,

01:16:13.300 without connections,

01:16:14.560 without permission,

01:16:15.660 without anybody saying,

01:16:16.920 hey, go on

01:16:17.580 and kind of lead

01:16:18.200 a movement here

01:16:18.860 to challenge

01:16:19.720 the entrenched status quo

01:16:20.760 in both parties.

01:16:22.120 But these people remembered

01:16:23.440 that they had

01:16:25.280 infinite power

01:16:26.040 and that if they simply

01:16:27.140 began to organize

01:16:28.120 with one another,

01:16:28.940 which is simply asking

01:16:29.920 one other human

01:16:30.720 to join you

01:16:31.600 in a common endeavor

01:16:32.360 and say,

01:16:32.860 you know what?

01:16:33.380 Let's make some plans here.

01:16:34.680 Let's get on a common message.

01:16:36.460 Let's do some things together.

01:16:38.160 They began fundamentally

01:16:39.240 to change the game, right?

01:16:40.860 And I think

01:16:41.380 this age that we're in

01:16:43.220 right now

01:16:43.740 is one that connects

01:16:44.880 the Tea Party

01:16:45.820 with Occupy Wall Street

01:16:47.100 with $15 now

01:16:48.240 with Black Lives Matter.

01:16:49.540 You may think,

01:16:50.460 wow, all these people,

01:16:51.380 I mean,

01:16:51.640 I don't agree

01:16:52.180 with all these people,

01:16:53.140 but the reality is

01:16:54.080 all of them

01:16:54.800 are remembering

01:16:55.500 that in this bottom-up way,

01:16:57.480 citizens can exercise

01:16:58.540 far more clout

01:16:59.480 and muscle

01:16:59.880 than most of the time

01:17:00.820 we remember we have.

01:17:02.020 So, this is,

01:17:04.660 and I know this audience

01:17:06.480 is feeling it,

01:17:08.680 and I say this

01:17:10.220 in the spirit

01:17:11.600 of just defining

01:17:13.020 where we are, okay?

01:17:16.860 As I'm listening to you

01:17:18.400 and I heard about,

01:17:19.600 you know,

01:17:20.200 trickle-down economics,

01:17:21.880 I wanted immediately

01:17:23.600 to stop and battle you

01:17:25.400 on that.

01:17:25.800 Yeah.

01:17:27.120 There's several things

01:17:28.600 that you said

01:17:29.060 that I immediately

01:17:29.760 wanted to say

01:17:30.660 no.

01:17:35.900 That's okay.

01:17:36.820 But it's okay.

01:17:37.880 It's okay.

01:17:38.620 But that's where

01:17:39.100 we get lost

01:17:39.720 because we don't listen.

01:17:40.940 We don't let

01:17:42.040 the other person finish.

01:17:44.520 And so we're not

01:17:44.920 listening to each other.

01:17:46.620 But let me,

01:17:47.540 instead of battling

01:17:48.160 on those things,

01:17:49.860 let me

01:17:50.700 take you here on that.

01:17:55.280 I agree with your three points.

01:17:58.060 And

01:17:58.340 I agree with you

01:18:02.340 on the last point,

01:18:06.360 and I,

01:18:07.240 you know,

01:18:07.700 I'm sorry,

01:18:08.320 I have to say it,

01:18:09.160 but not only power

01:18:10.700 is infinite,

01:18:11.680 with power comes money,

01:18:13.280 too.

01:18:14.080 Money is infinite.

01:18:15.500 So,

01:18:15.980 we spend so much time

01:18:17.960 telling people,

01:18:20.500 sit down,

01:18:21.100 shut up, 0.92

01:18:21.580 to protect your own power,

01:18:22.820 and I can't,

01:18:26.800 you can't do it

01:18:27.660 because that guy's

01:18:28.560 in your way.

01:18:29.300 You can't make money

01:18:30.320 because that guy

01:18:31.040 has it all.

01:18:32.200 Money and power,

01:18:33.640 they're usually

01:18:34.120 put together

01:18:35.160 and they are infinite

01:18:36.580 as we see

01:18:37.340 in Silicon Valley.

01:18:40.100 You can dream,

01:18:41.380 you can do.

01:18:41.940 It's the idea

01:18:43.500 of America.

01:18:45.720 Here's the thing

01:18:46.960 that I want to get to

01:18:48.440 on this

01:18:49.800 power.

01:18:56.300 There are progressives

01:18:57.720 on both sides

01:18:58.540 of the aisle.

01:18:59.900 There are progressives

01:19:00.680 that are Republicans,

01:19:01.960 progressives

01:19:02.400 that are Democrats.

01:19:04.160 And the original idea

01:19:07.840 was either fascism

01:19:09.780 in the early 20th century.

01:19:11.180 They thought fascism

01:19:12.140 and communism

01:19:12.640 was neat.

01:19:13.840 So the early guys

01:19:15.340 were who's going

01:19:16.340 to control the cows? 0.83

01:19:18.420 Who's going to be

01:19:18.940 the rancher

01:19:19.680 on the cows?

01:19:20.300 Who's going to tell

01:19:21.020 these dummies 0.79

01:19:21.800 that don't get it

01:19:22.880 how to live their life?

01:19:24.700 We'll protect them

01:19:25.660 and we'll have the power.

01:19:28.500 And so,

01:19:29.240 there's fascists

01:19:30.380 and there's communists,

01:19:31.960 if you will.

01:19:33.360 Both of them

01:19:34.440 end the same way

01:19:35.740 in authoritarianism.

01:19:38.960 How do we get

01:19:40.340 to a point

01:19:41.400 to where the people

01:19:43.580 who are truly

01:19:44.680 constitutionalists,

01:19:46.040 this is what makes us

01:19:46.880 different.

01:19:48.240 What the progressives

01:19:50.080 started in the early

01:19:51.560 20th century

01:19:52.160 is just to bring us

01:19:53.620 back to the European model.

01:19:55.420 Look at what's

01:19:55.820 happening in France.

01:19:57.260 Communism

01:19:57.800 or fascism.

01:19:59.900 40% is voting

01:20:01.440 for fascism

01:20:02.140 or communism.

01:20:02.720 That's craziness.

01:20:04.920 How do we get

01:20:05.760 to the point

01:20:06.400 to where

01:20:06.940 we can say,

01:20:09.700 I want you to

01:20:11.280 have the power

01:20:13.520 that you want.

01:20:14.640 I want you to have

01:20:15.500 all the success

01:20:16.400 that you want.

01:20:17.140 but I don't want you

01:20:21.300 telling me

01:20:22.560 what success

01:20:25.100 I can have

01:20:25.980 or what I have

01:20:26.860 to believe

01:20:27.320 or what line

01:20:28.500 I have to tow.

01:20:30.060 I don't want

01:20:30.940 control of your life.

01:20:32.880 I want

01:20:33.420 330 million

01:20:36.460 experiments

01:20:37.320 happening

01:20:38.000 that will pop up

01:20:39.480 and I'll go,

01:20:39.940 my gosh,

01:20:40.480 look at that life.

01:20:41.740 I'd like to pattern

01:20:42.820 my life after that.

01:20:44.040 instead of somebody

01:20:45.680 trying to cookie

01:20:46.880 cutter us all.

01:20:48.660 And I think

01:20:49.160 that's what

01:20:50.580 a lot of

01:20:51.880 people on the left

01:20:53.840 are feeling,

01:20:55.340 especially youth.

01:20:56.640 They're seeing

01:20:57.700 that

01:20:58.220 current

01:21:00.180 running through

01:21:01.160 the right

01:21:01.800 that says,

01:21:03.000 I want a strong man.

01:21:03.920 and they miss

01:21:05.460 the strong man

01:21:06.400 on the left.

01:21:07.380 So how do

01:21:08.320 reasonable people

01:21:09.700 come together

01:21:10.740 in the middle

01:21:11.460 that are saying,

01:21:13.140 Eric,

01:21:14.680 I love you

01:21:16.200 and I respect you

01:21:17.080 and I don't have

01:21:17.960 a problem.

01:21:19.360 Don't control

01:21:20.300 my life.

01:21:21.020 I won't control

01:21:21.840 your life.

01:21:23.340 So,

01:21:24.600 I want to start

01:21:25.420 with appreciating

01:21:27.100 what you said

01:21:27.800 at the outset,

01:21:28.660 which was,

01:21:29.720 there were three

01:21:30.360 or four moments

01:21:31.060 when I was speaking

01:21:31.680 earlier where you

01:21:32.340 just wanted to hop up

01:21:33.020 and say, no, right?

01:21:34.800 I think that's huge.

01:21:36.520 I don't want to just

01:21:37.380 kind of skip past that.

01:21:38.480 I think it's really

01:21:39.220 worth naming that.

01:21:40.120 And I'm sure many

01:21:40.720 of your listeners

01:21:41.220 are like, no.

01:21:43.200 A couple of the people

01:21:44.320 in the room.

01:21:46.420 So,

01:21:47.760 you know,

01:21:48.340 I think that ability

01:21:49.800 to hear that

01:21:52.260 inside yourself,

01:21:53.180 to kind of sit with that

01:21:54.220 and say,

01:21:54.820 hold on,

01:21:55.200 let's let this play out.

01:21:56.200 And hang on.

01:21:57.980 And not stew on it.

01:22:00.680 Like, okay,

01:22:01.340 I got to wait

01:22:01.720 until he stops.

01:22:03.020 I got to remember this

01:22:04.160 just because

01:22:05.340 I couldn't remember.

01:22:06.300 I couldn't remember

01:22:07.220 really what I wanted to.

01:22:08.860 I know there were

01:22:09.360 three or four things

01:22:10.260 that I thought of

01:22:11.060 that I want to say no.

01:22:12.160 But it's

01:22:12.720 stop yourself

01:22:14.400 and let it go

01:22:16.460 and engage,

01:22:18.220 listen

01:22:18.780 to the other side.

01:22:19.900 That's really hard.

01:22:21.020 That verb right there, man.

01:22:22.420 You know,

01:22:22.980 I think politics,

01:22:24.000 especially in D.C.,

01:22:24.880 is filled with

01:22:25.480 what I call

01:22:25.840 debaters listening.

01:22:27.380 Yes.

01:22:27.660 Right?

01:22:28.080 You're just listening

01:22:29.060 in as much as you need

01:22:29.940 to get the quick gist

01:22:30.840 of what the guy's saying

01:22:31.700 and then your wheels

01:22:32.680 are spinning.

01:22:33.220 How am I going to pound him back?

01:22:34.580 How am I going to destroy

01:22:35.360 what he just said?

01:22:36.220 Right?

01:22:37.080 And what I'm talking about

01:22:38.260 is basically citizens listening.

01:22:39.760 Yes.

01:22:40.020 A human's actual 0.88

01:22:41.400 full body listening.

01:22:42.600 Right?

01:22:43.160 And checking yourself

01:22:44.160 and saying,

01:22:44.520 okay, before I react,

01:22:45.480 I know my talking points

01:22:46.600 that I'm going to

01:22:47.320 kind of wheel out here.

01:22:48.400 Right?

01:22:49.420 And the same thing

01:22:50.300 just happened for me.

01:22:51.040 Right?

01:22:51.320 You were describing

01:22:52.160 this vision

01:22:52.680 of what you're articulating.

01:22:55.260 You're describing

01:22:56.580 progressivism

01:22:57.420 as top-down,

01:22:59.300 cookie-cutter,

01:23:00.500 controlling,

01:23:01.680 either fascist

01:23:02.540 or communist,

01:23:03.720 you know,

01:23:04.240 the state solves

01:23:05.260 everything

01:23:05.660 or tries to solve

01:23:06.420 everything for people.

01:23:07.360 And the reason

01:23:07.960 why you're here

01:23:08.660 is because

01:23:09.140 I don't believe

01:23:10.040 you believe that.

01:23:11.140 I don't believe that.

01:23:12.060 Right?

01:23:12.440 And I don't believe,

01:23:13.700 I don't accept

01:23:15.020 that definition

01:23:15.800 in the first place.

01:23:16.420 But do you believe

01:23:17.380 there are those

01:23:18.440 that do believe that?

01:23:19.520 I do.

01:23:20.240 Okay.

01:23:20.460 And I think

01:23:20.900 we're here

01:23:21.720 precisely as you say

01:23:23.440 because there is

01:23:25.900 a space

01:23:26.580 between that caricature

01:23:29.460 and the caricature

01:23:30.700 that I could throw out,

01:23:31.880 you know,

01:23:32.300 that all libertarians

01:23:33.860 are just complete

01:23:35.220 individualistic

01:23:36.580 kind of,

01:23:37.380 you know,

01:23:37.920 sociopathic,

01:23:38.920 selfish people

01:23:39.640 who just want

01:23:40.500 to go their own way.

01:23:41.360 Like,

01:23:41.580 that would be equally wrong

01:23:42.960 and stupid. 0.89

01:23:43.860 Correct.

01:23:44.320 Right?

01:23:44.640 Correct.

01:23:45.140 We've made

01:23:46.060 the media

01:23:47.400 and soundbites

01:23:48.580 and we are reflecting

01:23:50.280 it in our own conversation.

01:23:52.440 If we can't judge

01:23:53.260 each other

01:23:53.740 in one soundbite,

01:23:56.540 then we don't engage.

01:23:58.120 I mean,

01:23:58.300 we get lost.

01:24:00.140 And those soundbites 0.90

01:24:02.060 make us into

01:24:03.020 cartoon characters.

01:24:04.400 Yeah.

01:24:04.920 And we're not

01:24:06.000 those cartoon characters.

01:24:07.540 I have to take

01:24:08.100 a quick break

01:24:08.560 and when we come back

01:24:09.580 we'll have more conversation.

01:24:11.580 And Eric's also

01:24:12.400 going to be joining me

01:24:13.140 on The Blaze as well

01:24:14.820 for an update.

01:24:16.140 Just watch The Blaze

01:24:17.060 five o'clock

01:24:17.940 on theblazetv.com.

01:24:20.280 We are one time.

01:24:23.260 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:24:25.920 Mercury.

01:24:30.440 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:24:32.880 888-727-BECK.

01:24:36.180 Eric Liu is our guest.

01:24:38.260 He's written a book,

01:24:39.160 You're More Powerful Than You Think,

01:24:40.620 A Citizen's Guide

01:24:41.360 to Making Change Happen.

01:24:44.100 He's a progressive,

01:24:46.140 but a reasonable progressive.

01:24:47.780 I try to consider myself

01:24:49.120 a reasonable constitutionalist.

01:24:50.760 And we've had several discussions

01:24:52.180 and we like each other

01:24:53.680 and strangely trust each other.

01:24:56.140 At least I trust you.

01:24:58.360 Because I don't think

01:25:00.960 you're trying to control me

01:25:02.240 and I'm not trying to control

01:25:04.380 anybody else's life.

01:25:05.360 people need to hear

01:25:11.300 from the left.

01:25:12.080 Now I'm just talking

01:25:12.660 to my audience here.

01:25:14.420 People need to hear

01:25:15.460 from the left.

01:25:16.700 What the left

01:25:17.500 has heard from me.

01:25:20.200 Sorry.

01:25:21.740 Sorry.

01:25:22.420 Didn't see it.

01:25:23.420 Didn't see.

01:25:24.020 Didn't see

01:25:24.680 some of the things

01:25:26.160 I was saying

01:25:27.380 turned out

01:25:28.680 not to be right,

01:25:30.460 not to be true.

01:25:31.180 Some of the things

01:25:31.620 I claimed about the people

01:25:32.800 I was around,

01:25:33.840 not true.

01:25:35.760 Shock.

01:25:37.220 Okay.

01:25:37.680 Sorry.

01:25:40.220 When it comes to things

01:25:41.860 like Berkeley,

01:25:44.960 the Antifa movement

01:25:48.500 is extraordinarily dangerous.

01:25:51.260 it is a coordinated

01:25:54.600 group of anarchists.

01:26:01.040 It's not the average American

01:26:02.800 saying,

01:26:03.920 hey,

01:26:04.440 let's have reasonable talk.

01:26:08.220 How do we get people

01:26:10.040 on the left

01:26:11.060 to speak to the people

01:26:12.360 on the right

01:26:13.140 and say,

01:26:14.600 hey,

01:26:14.860 I'm not part of that.

01:26:16.960 Yeah.

01:26:17.320 Because that's important.

01:26:18.300 I think you're actually

01:26:19.960 seeing a fair amount

01:26:20.880 of that right now

01:26:21.680 on the left

01:26:22.880 and the center left.

01:26:23.720 People saying

01:26:24.340 the answer to Milo

01:26:27.960 or Ann Coulter

01:26:28.940 is not shutting it down.

01:26:32.280 The answer,

01:26:33.260 quite frankly,

01:26:33.960 is let them talk

01:26:35.500 and pay them no attention

01:26:36.580 if you don't like

01:26:37.140 what they have to say.

01:26:38.400 Right?

01:26:39.800 Shutting them down

01:26:40.600 only feeds the beast.

01:26:41.980 Right.

01:26:42.140 It only feeds the attention. 0.95

01:26:44.040 And again,

01:26:44.620 from a citizen standpoint,

01:26:45.660 you're giving your power

01:26:46.640 to them.

01:26:47.160 The more you try

01:26:49.740 to shut them down.

01:26:50.360 But it's not just

01:26:50.720 trying to shut them down.

01:26:52.280 There is another

01:26:53.180 part of that movement.

01:26:56.220 The Antifa movement

01:26:57.320 is a global movement

01:27:00.560 of revolutionary

01:27:02.360 communist radicals.

01:27:06.040 And, you know,

01:27:07.400 Bernie Sanders

01:27:08.240 and Donald Trump,

01:27:09.700 the edges

01:27:10.500 of the support there,

01:27:13.080 the far edges,

01:27:14.260 and I don't think

01:27:14.860 it's more than 10%

01:27:15.940 on either side,

01:27:17.160 they wanted to burn

01:27:18.740 the whole thing down

01:27:19.700 and start over.

01:27:21.880 We shouldn't have anything

01:27:23.080 to do with any

01:27:24.060 of those people.

01:27:25.140 I don't want to burn

01:27:25.860 the whole system.

01:27:26.280 I want to fix the system.

01:27:28.040 This Constitution

01:27:28.680 is great.

01:27:29.680 We just haven't looked

01:27:30.400 at it for a long,

01:27:31.580 long time.

01:27:32.900 You know,

01:27:33.100 you think about

01:27:33.600 the Trump phenomenon.

01:27:35.400 I liken it to a virus.

01:27:38.460 A virus is something,

01:27:39.840 you know,

01:27:39.980 the body telling you,

01:27:40.940 hey, I'm sick.

01:27:42.320 Right?

01:27:43.480 And the body politic

01:27:44.600 is sick.

01:27:45.820 You know,

01:27:46.240 people who want

01:27:46.880 to burn it down,

01:27:47.420 people who want

01:27:47.760 to tear it all down,

01:27:48.900 they need to be listened to

01:27:49.940 because we are

01:27:50.920 in a situation

01:27:51.680 where the game

01:27:52.980 is increasingly great.

01:27:54.560 Right?

01:27:54.960 Back in just a second.

01:27:55.860 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:28:06.740 Mercury.

01:28:10.520 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:28:14.740 Just talking to Eric Liu,

01:28:16.820 who said before we went

01:28:20.380 into the break

01:28:20.920 that he sees the Trump movement,

01:28:23.680 and I don't think he meant it

01:28:24.520 as a virus,

01:28:25.160 he meant it more

01:28:25.540 as a fever,

01:28:26.700 that it is a symptom

01:28:27.720 that something

01:28:28.380 in the body politic

01:28:29.480 is wrong.

01:28:31.920 And the same thing

01:28:33.220 with the Tea Party,

01:28:34.240 the same thing now

01:28:35.080 with these marches

01:28:35.960 that are happening

01:28:36.620 all around the country,

01:28:38.220 the same thing,

01:28:39.240 you know,

01:28:39.400 and peaceful and violent,

01:28:40.740 the same thing in Berkeley.

01:28:42.360 Something is not right,

01:28:44.300 and these are symptoms.

01:28:45.740 These are runny nose,

01:28:47.180 fever,

01:28:48.280 watery eyes.

01:28:51.160 Something's wrong,

01:28:52.040 and nobody's really

01:28:53.180 paying attention

01:28:54.020 to what is wrong.

01:28:55.420 They're not listening

01:28:56.740 to the people,

01:28:58.200 and I'm not sure

01:29:01.180 if we hear the people

01:29:02.820 the same way,

01:29:04.620 but I know we do

01:29:06.020 on the big things.

01:29:07.220 The people are saying,

01:29:08.240 let me tell you a real quick story.

01:29:13.020 George Bush,

01:29:14.220 when we,

01:29:15.580 I met him in the Oval Office

01:29:17.020 the day that Barack Obama

01:29:18.600 said he was going to bomb,

01:29:21.820 he'd just fly the jets over

01:29:22.860 and bomb Pakistan. 0.98

01:29:24.820 I'm like,

01:29:25.440 well,

01:29:26.320 that's an ally,

01:29:26.900 you don't do that.

01:29:27.460 And I happened to be going

01:29:28.440 into the Oval Office

01:29:29.420 as I heard that.

01:29:30.820 I went into the president,

01:29:31.960 and he said,

01:29:32.740 don't worry,

01:29:34.320 man or woman,

01:29:36.060 Republican or Democrat,

01:29:37.060 doesn't matter who sits

01:29:38.140 behind this desk.

01:29:39.600 When they get here,

01:29:40.460 they'll realize

01:29:41.100 their hands are tied,

01:29:42.340 and they pretty much

01:29:43.700 will do exactly

01:29:44.560 what I've done.

01:29:46.400 Well,

01:29:46.740 that's what happened

01:29:47.280 with Barack Obama,

01:29:48.340 and that seems to be

01:29:49.240 what's happening

01:29:49.740 with Donald Trump.

01:29:51.380 What people are saying is

01:29:53.200 they don't want that.

01:29:54.380 Who's running this thing?

01:29:56.480 You know,

01:29:56.820 respond to me,

01:29:58.960 not to whatever this thing is

01:30:02.920 that we've created.

01:30:04.140 This thing,

01:30:04.840 I like that.

01:30:05.860 I mean,

01:30:05.980 I think that that thing

01:30:07.020 is elite establishment

01:30:08.780 conventional wisdom.

01:30:10.220 Yes.

01:30:10.820 Right?

01:30:12.040 And for a lot of folks

01:30:13.760 on the right,

01:30:14.300 it's this elite globalist

01:30:16.000 conventional wisdom.

01:30:17.640 For a lot of folks

01:30:18.240 on the left,

01:30:18.680 it's just an elite

01:30:19.460 corporatist,

01:30:20.860 you know,

01:30:21.680 capitalist.

01:30:22.480 What is the difference

01:30:23.260 between those?

01:30:24.200 I think they're quite

01:30:25.780 overlapping.

01:30:26.520 I think we're responding

01:30:27.220 to the same thing.

01:30:28.380 I don't think,

01:30:29.760 when,

01:30:30.020 at least,

01:30:31.800 I can't tell you

01:30:32.680 what crazy people think

01:30:34.000 on the far,

01:30:35.660 far right,

01:30:36.260 but I can tell you

01:30:37.320 what this means to me

01:30:39.680 on globalism

01:30:40.780 is bad,

01:30:43.540 dirty capitalists

01:30:44.920 sitting around

01:30:46.780 and making deals

01:30:48.220 that will get

01:30:50.480 their stuff done

01:30:51.720 that leave me behind

01:30:53.340 and this idea

01:30:55.480 that my culture,

01:30:57.740 my language,

01:30:59.180 my life

01:30:59.940 isn't unique.

01:31:01.600 I mean,

01:31:02.580 everybody,

01:31:03.280 I went over to Sweden

01:31:04.300 and they were trying,

01:31:05.660 literally telling me

01:31:06.800 that they didn't have

01:31:08.040 a unique culture

01:31:09.040 over there.

01:31:09.880 And I'm like,

01:31:10.260 have you looked

01:31:10.860 at just your architecture?

01:31:12.540 Yeah.

01:31:12.800 It's completely unique.

01:31:14.480 And so,

01:31:15.220 I think the globalist thing

01:31:16.560 is of making us

01:31:18.100 all a town

01:31:19.260 that only has a gap

01:31:20.420 and an antailor.

01:31:21.300 Yeah.

01:31:21.960 I don't want that.

01:31:23.240 I think that's really right.

01:31:24.340 And I think there are

01:31:25.580 a lot of people

01:31:26.040 on the left

01:31:26.480 who don't want that.

01:31:27.940 Right.

01:31:28.760 Who want a sense of place,

01:31:30.580 who want a sense of community

01:31:31.700 and a sense of purpose

01:31:32.580 that's not some

01:31:33.560 cookie cutter,

01:31:35.060 standard issue thing.

01:31:35.860 Whether that cookie cutter

01:31:37.060 is coming from

01:31:37.760 the government

01:31:38.180 or whether that cookie cutter

01:31:39.200 is coming from

01:31:39.820 global corporations.

01:31:40.600 It doesn't matter.

01:31:41.240 People resist the idea.

01:31:41.940 They're one in the same

01:31:43.020 at this point.

01:31:43.820 And I think this is

01:31:44.480 one of the things

01:31:45.080 that you have to listen

01:31:47.460 to folks,

01:31:48.480 whether they're supporting

01:31:49.180 Trump here in the United States

01:31:50.480 or they support Le Pen

01:31:51.520 in France.

01:31:53.300 Brexit.

01:31:53.800 Yeah, Brexit.

01:31:54.940 What you have to hear

01:31:55.960 is this.

01:31:56.880 This obsession

01:31:57.520 that people have

01:31:58.240 over sovereignty

01:31:59.000 is just about borders

01:32:00.920 and immigration policy.

01:32:02.380 It is about the sense of

01:32:03.620 I don't want to be part

01:32:05.380 of a standard issue,

01:32:06.620 globalized,

01:32:07.540 bland,

01:32:08.440 cookie cutter thing.

01:32:09.920 Right?

01:32:10.100 And does the left

01:32:11.160 feel that way?

01:32:11.940 I think there are

01:32:12.840 lots of folks on the left

01:32:13.900 who feel that way right now.

01:32:15.000 And I think some of the

01:32:15.600 most interesting innovation

01:32:16.860 that's happening

01:32:17.500 socially,

01:32:19.020 economically,

01:32:19.700 civically

01:32:20.100 is happening in cities.

01:32:21.640 People on the left

01:32:22.200 are rediscovering

01:32:23.040 the power and the beauty

01:32:24.200 of cities.

01:32:24.980 Yeah.

01:32:25.240 Right?

01:32:25.440 And they're not saying,

01:32:26.720 hey, let's ask the federal

01:32:27.460 government to fix everything.

01:32:28.760 Partly because the federal

01:32:29.520 government isn't going

01:32:30.200 to fix everything.

01:32:31.060 Right?

01:32:31.600 But I live in Seattle

01:32:32.700 and you and I will disagree

01:32:34.040 on this policy wise,

01:32:35.280 but I support a $15

01:32:36.260 minimum wage.

01:32:37.360 Right?

01:32:37.860 Mainly what I support though

01:32:39.120 is the chance

01:32:40.000 for Seattle

01:32:40.680 to experiment

01:32:41.640 with a $15

01:32:42.540 minimum wage.

01:32:43.440 Look, you'll never hear me,

01:32:44.840 I am not on record

01:32:45.960 ever saying a bad thing

01:32:47.660 about Massachusetts

01:32:48.680 health care.

01:32:49.480 Yeah.

01:32:49.800 If Massachusetts

01:32:50.520 wants to do that

01:32:51.780 in their state,

01:32:52.500 they should.

01:32:53.280 And I hope

01:32:53.940 they master it.

01:32:54.900 Yeah.

01:32:55.420 But it should be

01:32:57.240 50 state experiments

01:32:59.040 and every city

01:33:00.540 should be experimenting.

01:33:01.900 If that's what the city

01:33:02.980 wants to do,

01:33:03.720 that's great.

01:33:04.340 It's what I call

01:33:04.980 network localism.

01:33:06.060 It's not just

01:33:06.800 I'm going to retreat

01:33:07.640 to my little town

01:33:08.480 and kind of wall out

01:33:09.400 the world.

01:33:09.980 It's saying

01:33:10.360 I'm going to do

01:33:11.180 experiments in my town.

01:33:12.320 Yes.

01:33:12.700 And I'm going to find out

01:33:13.420 what experiments people

01:33:14.180 are doing in other towns

01:33:15.280 and I'm going to learn

01:33:16.160 from that.

01:33:16.740 Right?

01:33:16.940 And some towns

01:33:17.900 it's going to be about

01:33:18.660 wages and some towns

01:33:19.700 it'll be about

01:33:20.340 affordability of housing.

01:33:21.880 Whatever the issue is,

01:33:23.280 let's learn from each other.

01:33:24.360 Right?

01:33:24.820 This to me is a vision

01:33:25.740 that I defy you

01:33:26.840 to put that

01:33:27.460 in a right or left box.

01:33:29.280 It's not.

01:33:29.800 You know,

01:33:30.180 I defy you to put that

01:33:31.000 in a Republican or Democrat box.

01:33:32.380 I will tell you

01:33:33.240 I think that is

01:33:34.440 the founder's vision.

01:33:36.380 The problem is

01:33:37.440 is that

01:33:38.400 we have left

01:33:39.780 the federalist idea

01:33:41.300 and we've

01:33:42.520 glommed on

01:33:44.040 to this giant

01:33:45.060 global government.

01:33:46.260 One answer

01:33:46.900 fits all

01:33:48.120 from Washington.

01:33:49.740 Well,

01:33:50.060 I got news for you.

01:33:51.700 A $15 an hour

01:33:54.140 minimum wage

01:33:55.600 in New York City

01:33:56.640 ain't enough.

01:33:57.860 Yeah.

01:33:58.340 In

01:33:58.620 Walla Walla,

01:34:00.100 Washington

01:34:00.460 it's far too much.

01:34:02.820 It doesn't make sense

01:34:04.380 and it's only being done

01:34:05.980 if you really cared

01:34:07.660 if Congress

01:34:08.700 really cared about this

01:34:10.060 they would have

01:34:11.200 just made

01:34:12.300 a minimum wage

01:34:13.360 passed a law

01:34:14.500 that affixed itself

01:34:15.820 to the cost of living.

01:34:17.680 They don't do that.

01:34:18.620 Why?

01:34:19.020 Because that gets rid

01:34:19.860 of their power.

01:34:20.800 They need to continue

01:34:21.760 to bring this up

01:34:22.560 over and over again

01:34:23.240 and say,

01:34:23.620 see,

01:34:23.980 they're standing against

01:34:24.800 putting food in your mouth.

01:34:25.980 Yeah.

01:34:26.340 And it's ridiculous.

01:34:28.060 Yeah.

01:34:28.560 But getting back

01:34:29.620 to the local power

01:34:32.540 that's where

01:34:33.560 the founders

01:34:34.080 wanted all of it.

01:34:35.180 I think we live

01:34:35.940 in an incredible age

01:34:37.140 of local power

01:34:38.000 right now

01:34:38.480 and I think

01:34:39.140 this is true

01:34:40.160 on the left,

01:34:41.140 the right,

01:34:41.520 the center.

01:34:42.360 I think there's a lot

01:34:43.580 of experimentation

01:34:44.240 going on right now.

01:34:45.160 Do you really believe

01:34:46.160 that, I mean,

01:34:46.980 you look at,

01:34:48.120 freedom is not on the market.

01:34:49.440 It's so strange.

01:34:50.260 At a time when

01:34:53.140 everything is being

01:34:54.840 customized,

01:34:55.760 everything,

01:34:56.960 I don't have to go

01:34:58.280 and get a case

01:34:59.420 for my iPhone

01:35:01.160 at the iPhone store

01:35:02.380 that looks like

01:35:02.900 everybody else.

01:35:03.460 I can design my own.

01:35:04.820 I can design my own

01:35:06.140 clothing

01:35:06.700 and have it made

01:35:09.220 in China for me

01:35:10.560 at pretty close

01:35:11.720 to the same cost.

01:35:12.800 I mean,

01:35:12.960 it's crazy what's coming.

01:35:14.880 Everything is customized

01:35:16.120 except government

01:35:18.260 and especially global government

01:35:19.940 and banking.

01:35:21.200 They're going

01:35:21.900 the opposite way.

01:35:23.460 Freedom's not on the march.

01:35:27.100 Giant control

01:35:28.800 is on the march

01:35:30.320 and it's crushing

01:35:32.560 and I don't understand

01:35:34.340 how the left,

01:35:35.800 the ones who you appeal to,

01:35:37.580 the ones who are saying,

01:35:38.580 I don't,

01:35:38.960 I want to do the things

01:35:40.020 in my town.

01:35:41.060 I don't understand

01:35:42.080 how you don't see

01:35:43.020 that coming.

01:35:44.240 Look,

01:35:44.440 I actually,

01:35:45.300 maybe this is a glass

01:35:46.300 half full,

01:35:46.900 half empty kind of deal

01:35:47.860 but I do agree

01:35:49.880 that over the last

01:35:50.480 four decades or so,

01:35:52.680 there has been

01:35:53.700 this march

01:35:54.180 toward centralizing control,

01:35:55.960 toward rigging

01:35:56.540 of the game,

01:35:57.260 right?

01:35:58.100 But I think

01:35:58.800 we are in the midst

01:35:59.440 of what I just call

01:36:00.340 a great push back.

01:36:02.360 Like,

01:36:02.720 this is what makes

01:36:03.820 this moment

01:36:04.200 so exciting right now.

01:36:05.920 I think,

01:36:06.980 you know,

01:36:07.880 there are people

01:36:08.740 who are saying

01:36:09.480 enough of that

01:36:10.540 and sometimes

01:36:11.480 they're saying it

01:36:12.120 in very primal

01:36:13.180 scream ways 1.00

01:36:13.940 in electing a guy

01:36:15.860 like Donald Trump.

01:36:17.020 Other times

01:36:17.780 they're doing it

01:36:18.280 in ways that are

01:36:18.860 very focused

01:36:19.520 on the local

01:36:20.100 but in all cases

01:36:21.500 right now,

01:36:23.080 you know,

01:36:23.500 and sometimes

01:36:24.020 it's off the

01:36:24.620 national media

01:36:25.380 radar screen,

01:36:27.000 right?

01:36:27.140 Think about,

01:36:27.960 you know,

01:36:28.280 I write about this

01:36:28.960 in my book,

01:36:30.120 hair braiders,

01:36:31.580 right?

01:36:31.960 There's this quiet

01:36:32.960 little movement

01:36:33.460 going on around

01:36:34.700 the country right now

01:36:35.720 where people

01:36:36.620 who braid hair 0.99

01:36:37.540 for a living

01:36:38.100 and who have been

01:36:39.360 basically working

01:36:40.320 under all of these

01:36:41.340 onerous regulations,

01:36:42.980 right?

01:36:43.980 State and local

01:36:44.720 regulations

01:36:45.260 trying to govern

01:36:46.000 the way that they

01:36:46.620 braid hair,

01:36:47.260 trying to treat

01:36:47.680 this as a thing

01:36:48.360 that needs to kind

01:36:50.240 of jump through

01:36:50.620 15 hoops

01:36:51.360 and these hair braiders

01:36:52.560 who are often

01:36:54.320 in low-income communities,

01:36:55.680 often communities

01:36:56.280 of color,

01:36:56.840 saying,

01:36:57.700 hey,

01:36:58.480 we're just braiding

01:36:59.080 hair for each other

01:36:59.880 here.

01:37:00.180 We don't need to go

01:37:01.020 through 15 permits

01:37:02.480 here, right?

01:37:03.240 Something like this

01:37:04.040 which is not about

01:37:04.980 national politics.

01:37:06.420 It's not about

01:37:06.900 left or right.

01:37:07.640 These are folks

01:37:08.160 who you might say

01:37:08.940 are predisposed

01:37:09.980 to vote Democrat

01:37:10.720 or are predisposed

01:37:11.700 to be left,

01:37:12.400 but they are working

01:37:13.140 with libertarians

01:37:13.920 right now,

01:37:14.320 with the Institute

01:37:14.780 for Justice

01:37:15.320 to say,

01:37:15.980 let's push back

01:37:16.900 and roll back

01:37:17.460 these regulations,

01:37:18.380 right?

01:37:18.560 Because this is a moment

01:37:19.440 where people are saying,

01:37:20.740 let me have more control

01:37:22.740 over my little sphere

01:37:24.540 of life here.

01:37:25.260 This is the kind of thing

01:37:26.560 though that we have

01:37:27.260 to look at everywhere.

01:37:29.100 So it's not just

01:37:29.680 because I'll stand

01:37:30.300 with you on the hair braiders.

01:37:32.040 Will you stand with me

01:37:33.080 on Tesla in Texas

01:37:34.680 not allowed

01:37:35.780 to have a showroom

01:37:37.540 of,

01:37:38.600 I mean,

01:37:38.980 that's crazy.

01:37:39.380 That's a classic

01:37:40.340 rigging of the game.

01:37:41.300 Exactly right.

01:37:41.880 Why aren't they allowed?

01:37:42.600 Because traditional

01:37:43.520 car dealers have rigged

01:37:44.800 the legislative game.

01:37:45.600 Exactly right.

01:37:46.500 Why have they done that?

01:37:47.360 Because they like

01:37:48.160 having a monopoly.

01:37:49.260 It's a lot easier.

01:37:50.040 I mean,

01:37:50.180 this is human nature,

01:37:51.160 right?

01:37:52.040 Let's not kid ourselves,

01:37:53.200 right?

01:37:53.420 Capitalists don't love

01:37:54.320 competition.

01:37:55.540 Capitalists' dream

01:37:56.480 state endgame

01:37:57.520 is total monopoly,

01:37:58.880 right?

01:37:59.460 That's what they all

01:38:00.280 would like to have.

01:38:00.980 It'd be easier.

01:38:01.540 True.

01:38:01.920 True.

01:38:02.000 That's what you're going for.

01:38:03.340 That's what you're going for

01:38:04.260 ultimately.

01:38:04.660 I think Adam Smith

01:38:06.960 capitalism.

01:38:08.320 I mean,

01:38:08.680 you can't teach

01:38:09.680 wealth of nations

01:38:10.520 without moral sentiments.

01:38:11.740 That's right.

01:38:12.260 And if you have

01:38:13.020 moral sentiments,

01:38:14.540 to me,

01:38:15.100 that's true capitalism.

01:38:16.720 Yeah.

01:38:17.240 And moral sentiments

01:38:18.240 creates people

01:38:19.820 more like Benjamin Franklin.

01:38:21.360 That's right.

01:38:21.960 And that's...

01:38:23.120 We are so in sync

01:38:24.640 on that.

01:38:25.200 And I think

01:38:25.780 we would agree too,

01:38:27.100 Goldman Sachs today

01:38:28.140 does not have

01:38:28.860 moral sentiments.

01:38:29.560 No.

01:38:30.340 Very little

01:38:31.340 in Wall Street

01:38:32.560 has that.

01:38:32.760 And I don't mean to pick

01:38:32.840 on one firm there,

01:38:33.800 but firms like that

01:38:35.020 that are worshipping

01:38:36.680 at the altar

01:38:37.240 of maximizing

01:38:38.180 shareholder value

01:38:39.100 and short-term profit

01:38:40.500 do not have

01:38:41.700 moral sentiments

01:38:42.340 in mind, right?

01:38:43.340 And so if we're going

01:38:44.120 to reform this stuff,

01:38:45.140 again,

01:38:45.860 is what I just said

01:38:46.780 right or left?

01:38:47.420 I don't know.

01:38:48.180 But what I said

01:38:49.300 is just

01:38:49.880 I'm against

01:38:50.760 top-down control.

01:38:51.980 I'm against people

01:38:52.600 rigging the game.

01:38:53.400 These car dealers,

01:38:54.340 that example

01:38:54.800 is a great one, right?

01:38:56.500 The difference

01:38:57.540 is we have made

01:38:59.440 everything about

01:39:00.380 right and left

01:39:01.020 and there is a space

01:39:02.960 for right and wrong

01:39:04.060 and we're not

01:39:06.640 talking about that

01:39:07.580 anymore.

01:39:08.320 We're not talking

01:39:09.400 about what you

01:39:11.420 just said.

01:39:12.500 All the stuff

01:39:13.060 that you just said,

01:39:13.740 I'm with you.

01:39:14.660 100%.

01:39:15.100 Are you guys

01:39:15.580 with me?

01:39:16.360 Oh yeah, totally.

01:39:17.100 I'm with you.

01:39:18.360 100%.

01:39:18.840 But then there is

01:39:21.140 the structure

01:39:21.940 of those who don't

01:39:23.680 know and then

01:39:24.420 who do know

01:39:25.340 on both sides

01:39:26.300 that do not want

01:39:28.340 people like you

01:39:29.080 and I to be

01:39:29.440 able to get along.

01:39:30.440 Yeah, you bet.

01:39:31.280 And there are people,

01:39:32.180 look, pick your issue.

01:39:33.140 Criminal justice reform

01:39:34.140 is one where

01:39:35.260 our friend Matt Kibbe

01:39:36.200 who introduced us,

01:39:37.740 Matt and I

01:39:39.380 and Matt

01:39:39.740 and other folks

01:39:40.400 on the left

01:39:41.820 just like you

01:39:43.080 and others

01:39:43.560 have been working

01:39:44.540 in cross-ideological,

01:39:46.260 cross-partisan ways

01:39:47.200 to say

01:39:47.760 it is insane

01:39:49.340 that we have

01:39:49.960 this prison-industrial complex

01:39:51.400 growing

01:39:52.100 and metastasizing

01:39:53.320 the way it is right now.

01:39:53.900 What does that mean to you?

01:39:54.900 It means,

01:39:55.340 so this is interesting,

01:39:56.440 right?

01:39:56.520 From a social justice

01:39:57.540 liberal perspective,

01:39:58.940 I hate the fact

01:39:59.780 that you have this

01:40:00.500 what people call

01:40:01.380 a school-to-prison pipeline

01:40:02.500 where you start

01:40:03.600 kind of putting kids

01:40:04.780 of color especially

01:40:06.140 from the time

01:40:07.400 they're in middle school

01:40:08.100 into this detention pipeline

01:40:09.480 that eventually

01:40:10.040 makes them more

01:40:10.740 and more likely

01:40:11.380 to eventually

01:40:12.580 get incarcerated, 0.87

01:40:13.660 right?

01:40:13.860 That offends me.

01:40:15.180 It offends me

01:40:15.720 the ways in which

01:40:16.500 the disproportionality

01:40:18.440 of the results

01:40:19.060 of that system

01:40:19.800 crush a lot of

01:40:21.300 brown and black men

01:40:22.460 especially, right?

01:40:23.360 From a libertarian

01:40:24.960 or conservative perspective,

01:40:26.360 it offends you

01:40:27.540 and it ought to offend you

01:40:28.660 that you have this

01:40:30.120 creeping growing state,

01:40:32.920 this kind of

01:40:33.440 government expansion

01:40:34.520 in the prison sector

01:40:35.600 that's not just about

01:40:36.880 prisons eating up

01:40:38.180 more and more

01:40:38.560 of state budgets

01:40:39.200 but now

01:40:39.780 it's about

01:40:40.520 corrections officers' unions

01:40:42.040 making big donations

01:40:43.340 to politicians

01:40:44.060 and staving off reform

01:40:45.740 and it's about

01:40:46.300 a rigging of the game

01:40:47.180 that says,

01:40:47.640 hey, come on,

01:40:48.100 it's good for everybody

01:40:48.780 if we keep on

01:40:49.400 building prisons.

01:40:50.340 It's good for everybody

01:40:51.060 if we start looking

01:40:51.840 at the school districts

01:40:53.080 where you have

01:40:53.480 low performers

01:40:53.900 so you can start

01:40:54.560 projecting

01:40:55.060 where you're going

01:40:55.780 to have more prisoners

01:40:56.400 in 15 years.

01:40:56.580 It's not just there,

01:40:57.560 it's the prisoners

01:40:58.220 of living your own life

01:40:59.580 on things like

01:41:01.140 Department of Children

01:41:02.300 and Family Services

01:41:03.200 that's getting out

01:41:05.040 of control.

01:41:05.960 We all want to make sure

01:41:07.340 that if a kid

01:41:07.960 is being abused,

01:41:08.800 we are there

01:41:09.500 but man,

01:41:11.420 that thing is getting

01:41:12.280 out of control.

01:41:13.580 To push back

01:41:14.140 a little bit though,

01:41:14.840 we're talking to Eric Liu,

01:41:16.080 the book is

01:41:16.780 You're More Powerful

01:41:17.600 Than You Think

01:41:18.100 and there's romance there

01:41:20.060 and we can all have

01:41:21.180 that ability

01:41:21.900 to change things

01:41:22.740 but a lot of the examples

01:41:23.800 you're using

01:41:24.280 are small groups

01:41:26.880 rising up

01:41:27.660 and saying

01:41:28.360 the government

01:41:29.040 needs to get out

01:41:29.580 of my way

01:41:29.940 so I can do

01:41:30.400 the things

01:41:30.700 that I want to do

01:41:31.300 and we're all

01:41:32.340 I think on that.

01:41:33.540 What I would push back

01:41:35.360 a little bit on is

01:41:36.020 if there is a group

01:41:38.120 that comes together

01:41:38.820 and their goal

01:41:39.980 winds up being

01:41:40.960 locking in

01:41:42.020 in some government

01:41:43.660 the ability

01:41:44.580 to take things

01:41:45.520 from others,

01:41:46.680 for example,

01:41:47.240 higher taxes,

01:41:48.180 more regulation,

01:41:49.200 whatever that is

01:41:49.820 because a lot of these

01:41:50.360 groups do organize

01:41:51.240 for those things,

01:41:52.720 isn't that

01:41:53.340 sort of a misguided

01:41:54.400 use of that?

01:41:55.440 Shouldn't we be for

01:41:56.480 instead of

01:41:57.020 for the hair braiders,

01:41:59.780 shouldn't we be

01:42:00.460 for the Constitution?

01:42:03.020 Look,

01:42:03.540 I think we,

01:42:04.660 I think you and I

01:42:05.720 especially Glenn

01:42:06.440 are for the Constitution

01:42:07.840 but what that means

01:42:08.880 is remembering

01:42:11.140 that the Constitution

01:42:12.000 itself is an argument.

01:42:14.280 It is not a settled

01:42:15.440 resolve thing

01:42:16.240 that says,

01:42:16.820 oh,

01:42:16.900 if you believe

01:42:17.220 in the Constitution,

01:42:17.860 you all believe

01:42:18.720 in the following

01:42:19.160 five things.

01:42:20.500 The Constitution

01:42:21.000 is by design

01:42:22.340 one of these

01:42:23.340 kind of core tensions.

01:42:24.840 It enshrines

01:42:26.420 an inherent tension

01:42:27.540 between liberty

01:42:28.560 and equality,

01:42:30.760 right?

01:42:31.020 Between colorblind

01:42:32.200 and color consciousness.

01:42:33.420 Liberty and responsibility.

01:42:35.100 Sure,

01:42:35.420 but look,

01:42:35.980 look,

01:42:36.400 hang on,

01:42:36.840 hang on,

01:42:37.140 I've got to take a break

01:42:38.360 otherwise I'm going to be up

01:42:39.200 and miss this.

01:42:40.520 We're going to have

01:42:41.140 more conversation

01:42:41.920 today at five o'clock.

01:42:43.980 It's just a great conversation.

01:42:47.120 Eric Liu,

01:42:48.200 the name of the book

01:42:49.220 is You're More Powerful

01:42:50.500 Than You Think.

01:42:53.000 Glenn Beck Program.

01:42:54.140 888-727-BAC.

01:42:56.840 Mercury.

01:43:01.000 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:43:03.880 Eric Liu,

01:43:04.360 can you answer Stu's question?

01:43:06.020 Look,

01:43:06.320 I think the reality

01:43:07.720 is that

01:43:08.420 the arguments

01:43:09.580 over taxes

01:43:10.800 and who has what

01:43:12.040 are in the field

01:43:13.460 of what I just call

01:43:14.060 normal politics,

01:43:15.480 right?

01:43:15.840 Where we are agreeing

01:43:16.900 that we're going to have

01:43:17.540 different views about

01:43:18.460 how much we should value liberty

01:43:20.140 versus how much we should

01:43:21.440 value equality.

01:43:23.460 And we can have

01:43:24.100 that tug of war

01:43:24.800 and that's what

01:43:25.260 American politics is.

01:43:26.320 That's what respecting

01:43:27.000 the Constitution is,

01:43:28.120 is saying

01:43:28.500 it's a constant argument.

01:43:30.740 Where I'm worried about

01:43:31.760 is when people start saying,

01:43:33.720 you know what,

01:43:34.140 let's just try to have

01:43:34.960 final victory

01:43:35.680 on one side or the other.

01:43:37.160 This age of citizen power

01:43:38.300 is about recognizing

01:43:39.200 that normal politics

01:43:40.420 is a game of

01:43:41.260 infinite repeat play

01:43:42.560 and you've got to keep

01:43:43.400 on getting out

01:43:43.860 in the field and playing.

01:43:45.620 This is

01:43:46.320 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:43:49.440 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 25, 2017

4⧸25⧸17 - Who's really running this place？... Eric Liu Joins Glenn

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