The Glenn Beck Program - 6⧸26⧸17 - Will America ever be how we knew it？ (Riaz Patel Joins Glenn)

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00:00:08.080 From Los Angeles, hello America and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:12.600 Lots to cover today, it is Monday, so we might as well let you know,

00:00:17.440 Earth is coming to an end and Stephen Hawking says we should all get off the planet ASAP.

00:00:22.980 If I could, Stephen, believe me, after the last 10 years, I would get off this planet.

00:00:32.840 We'll have more on that.

00:00:34.300 Also, Bill Nye, the science guy, has one of his comedy writers write something really, really funny this weekend.

00:00:43.560 And Seattle's minimum wage hike.

00:00:46.840 According to the University of Washington, it's not working.

00:00:52.100 And you won't believe why.

00:00:55.940 And we begin with Trumpcare.

00:00:58.960 What is going to happen in the Senate with the Obamacare repeal and replace, which it's neither.

00:01:06.940 We begin there right now.

00:01:22.100 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:31.120 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:35.200 Hello, America, from Los Angeles.

00:01:39.600 Welcome to the program.

00:01:40.540 So glad that you are here today.

00:01:42.540 I want to read from Mike Lee's post on Medium, which is a website where, I guess, smart people go.

00:01:54.780 And it's a place where you can actually write.

00:02:00.940 And it's made for people who can actually read more than 40 seconds at a time.

00:02:07.340 And he is taking apart, piece by piece, why Trumpcare is not better.

00:02:17.680 And I want to share with you the missing ingredient in Trumpcare, humility.

00:02:22.700 No, the Senate health care bill released yesterday does not repeal Obamacare.

00:02:29.180 It doesn't even significantly reform American health care.

00:02:33.560 It does cut taxes.

00:02:35.960 It bails out the insurance company.

00:02:38.300 It props up Obamacare through the next election.

00:02:41.300 It lays out plans to slow Medicaid spending beginning in 2025, which probably won't happen.

00:02:47.600 And it leaves in place the ham-fisted federal regulations that have driven up family health insurance premiums by 140% since Obamacare was implemented.

00:03:00.800 I just want to spend a second on that.

00:03:03.740 Have you heard the media or anybody actually quote that statistic?

00:03:12.240 We all know that our health care insurance premiums has gone through the roof.

00:03:16.640 We all know that we can't afford it.

00:03:19.200 We all know that there are places in the country now where you only have two options, Obamacare or one other insurance program.

00:03:28.400 We all know this has happened.

00:03:31.200 But did you, have you heard them quote the stat that it is up 140%?

00:03:39.120 That's outrageous.

00:03:40.320 And if we were ringing that bell, I think maybe more people would say, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:03:49.880 This has to be repealed.

00:03:51.760 As the bill is currently drafted, writes Mike Lee, I won't vote for it.

00:03:58.640 On the other hand, I understand the opportunity Republicans have right now to help Americans get better, more affordable coverage.

00:04:06.320 That's why I joined the Senate working group on health care reform with an open mind.

00:04:11.940 I knew then, as I know now, that as one of the most conservative Republican senators, I would have to compromise with the least conservative Republican senators to get something done.

00:04:22.700 And compromise, I have.

00:04:25.160 At the beginning of this process, I wanted a full repeal of Obamacare.

00:04:29.260 Despite campaigning on that very thing for eight years, my Republican colleagues have disagreed.

00:04:36.760 What is it going to be like in 18 or 2020?

00:04:41.020 Think of 2020.

00:04:44.160 You're going to be running the Democrats, who are going to be having the biggest fight over socialism ever.

00:04:51.520 running against the GOP and a president who has just reneged on every single promise they gave.

00:05:04.620 Actually, the president hasn't.

00:05:06.860 But the Republicans have just reneged on nine years of promises to the American people.

00:05:13.920 And if it has gone up 141 percent and we know that it's collapsing on itself, what do you think it's going to be like in three or four years?

00:05:23.380 Better?

00:05:26.540 So I called for a partial repeal, says Mike Lee, like we passed in 2015, which conservatives were promised by our leaders in January.

00:05:35.980 A partial repeal would at least force Congress to start over on a new system that could work better.

00:05:42.600 But again, no.

00:05:45.000 So then I advocated repealing Obamacare's regulations, which have been the primary drivers of spiking premiums.

00:05:52.880 I repeated this suggestion at every single meeting of the working group and at every member's lunch for several weeks.

00:06:00.560 Yet, when the Better Care Reconciliation Act was unveiled yesterday, the core of Obamacare regulations were largely untouched.

00:06:09.820 Remember, it's the regulations that made it go up 141 percent.

00:06:14.580 Far short of repeal, the Senate bill keeps the Democrats' broken system intact, just with left spending on the poor to pay for corporate bailouts and tax cuts.

00:06:25.720 Boy, how do you think they're going to fare in 2020 with just that fact?

00:06:30.560 With just the fact that they did get tax cuts and they reduced things on the poor, but they gave those reductions, not to the American people, but they gave them to wealthy corporations.

00:06:45.420 How's that going to go?

00:06:48.600 Yet, for all of that, I have not closed the door on voting on some version of this in the end.

00:06:55.340 Conservatives have compromised on not repealing, on spending levels, tax cuts, subsidies, corporate bailouts, Medicaid, and the Obamacare regulations.

00:07:08.420 That is, on every substantive question in the bill.

00:07:12.980 I have conceded to my moderate colleagues on all of the above.

00:07:18.720 Now, I only ask that the bill be amended to include an opt-out provision for states or even just for individuals.

00:07:27.820 The reasons Americans are divided about health care, like so many issues today, is that we don't know exactly how to fix it.

00:07:34.800 Politicians hate to admit it.

00:07:37.020 Partisans pretend otherwise.

00:07:38.720 But it's true.

00:07:40.760 And history teaches us that when we don't know how to solve a problem, the best thing to do is to experiment.

00:07:48.360 We should test different ideas through cooperatives, bottom-up, trial-and-error process, rather than imposing a top-down, partisan power play that disrupts the lives of hundreds of millions of people at a time.

00:08:01.660 What a concept.

00:08:02.340 Eight years ago, Democrats created a one-size-fits-all national health care system, and it's collapsing around us.

00:08:10.140 They couldn't even make the website work.

00:08:13.140 Why do Republicans, who are supposedly skeptical of a government miracle working, expect our one-size-fits-all scheme to work any better?

00:08:22.220 The only hope for actually solving the deep, challenging problems in our health care system is to let the people try out approaches other than the ones a few dozen politicians might think up inside of the D.C. bubble.

00:08:39.980 And so, for all of my frustrations about the process and the disagreements with the details of BCRA, I would still be willing to vote for it if it allowed states and or individuals to opt out of the Obamacare system free and clear to experiment with different forms of insurance, benefits package, care provision options, etc.

00:09:07.420 Liberal states might try a single-payer system, while conservatives might emphasize health care savings accounts. 0.76

00:09:15.660 Some people embrace association health care plans or so-called MediShare ministry models.

00:09:22.460 My guess is different approaches will work for different people in different places, just like everything else in life.

00:09:30.740 The only way to find out what does work is to find out what doesn't.

00:09:37.500 We know that pre-Obamacare system was breaking down.

00:09:41.020 We now know that Obamacare is failing as well.

00:09:44.260 I doubt this system will fare much better.

00:09:47.000 Or that the next Pelosi-Sanders-Warren scheme Democrats will cook up will be worse.

00:09:53.920 At some point, Washington elites might at least entertain the possibility that we don't have all the answers in Washington.

00:10:02.480 I think, right now, with President Trump's shocking upset of the establishment still fresh in their minds, it'd be a good time for Congress to add new ingredients to the legislative sausage.

00:10:14.260 A dash of humility.

00:10:15.900 To win my vote, the Republican health care bill must create a little space for states and individuals to sidestep Washington's arrogant incompetence to see if they can do better.

00:10:29.880 Recent history suggests Washington couldn't do worse.

00:10:35.720 Back in a second with more on this.

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00:12:13.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:12:24.060 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:12:27.300 Welcome to the program.

00:12:28.420 Glad that you are here.

00:12:30.240 This Senate bill was mainly drafted by Mitch McConnell in Kentucky who unveiled it just so we could vote quickly this week

00:12:41.040 and then break for the 4th of July and watch the fireworks and maybe forget that Congress just screwed us all.

00:12:47.720 140% increase in our premiums since Obamacare has passed.

00:12:54.160 And this does nothing to reduce the pressure on us, the individuals.

00:13:01.520 Who is, Stu, are you keeping count of the senators?

00:13:09.640 There's five now.

00:13:10.840 Yeah.

00:13:11.820 They're saying that they may not do it.

00:13:14.580 Yeah.

00:13:15.000 You could probably go to six on that, too, as Susan Collins sort of indicated that she may not vote for it, too.

00:13:22.640 She said, it's hard for me to see this bill passing this week.

00:13:26.400 We could well be in for an all-nighter a couple of nights this week.

00:13:32.180 Yeah, so you could kind of take hers as you can't really tell, but she is showing some hesitancy to support it, I guess, is the way you could put that.

00:13:38.920 But the other five are Mike Lee, as you pointed out last break.

00:13:43.240 We were talking before we went on the air, and you said you thought that he wasn't really out, and he isn't out unless there's an opt-out for the states or the individuals.

00:13:56.140 Do you see that even a possibility?

00:13:58.600 That guts the whole thing.

00:14:00.120 I don't think they're going to do it.

00:14:02.380 However, he is keeping it open.

00:14:04.060 I think it's interesting for him to say, really, what I took from that Mike Lee thing is, look, we tried really hard.

00:14:10.880 We didn't get any of the stuff we were supposed to get.

00:14:12.860 All the things that we promised didn't come true, at least give us a chance for states to try to do something better.

00:14:18.600 Like, I will vote for it.

00:14:19.860 I'll swallow all this nonsense.

00:14:22.660 Just give the states an opportunity so some of them can try something better, and we can at least show a path to success.

00:14:29.260 So here's the only problem with this, and I agree with him.

00:14:32.020 I mean, that seems reasonable to me.

00:14:34.000 If you want to keep your bloated thing, then at least give a few states the option or the individual to get out of that thing.

00:14:42.540 You know, I don't know how the individual works, but I love the idea of states.

00:14:46.980 But the problem is, is that, for instance, all of our pensions are collapsing on us right now.

00:14:53.660 I really want to talk to Governor Mike Bevin this week, if we can.

00:14:58.060 Or Matt Bevin.

00:14:58.700 Or Matt, I'm sorry.

00:14:59.740 Either Bevin brother would be good.

00:15:00.880 Yeah, that would be good.

00:15:01.940 Sorry, Matt.

00:15:02.460 Governor Bevin, he's getting some heat now because he's making risky investments, they say, with hedge funds to try to be able to fix their pension fund.

00:15:17.660 They are the most, this is the worst pension, apparently, in the country.

00:15:24.500 It's 20% underfunded, and it's completely falling apart.

00:15:29.620 Now, I don't know how you could be worse than Illinois, which Illinois is now 100% of every tax dollar that comes in in Illinois has to go to the court-mandated must-pay pensions.

00:15:44.040 So, this is piling up on our states as it is.

00:15:50.660 We're not going to have the money to be able to do anything.

00:15:55.120 And what's going to happen?

00:15:57.740 You let some states out of it.

00:15:59.920 It'll be states like Utah.

00:16:01.900 It'll be states like Texas, probably places like Wyoming that will say, I'm not in.

00:16:08.640 And it will be all of the places like Illinois, New York, California that will say, yes, we need Obamacare. 0.82

00:16:16.300 Well, they're going to collapse, and then we're going to be stuck with the bill.

00:16:19.680 Because if you don't think the United States is going to be stuck with the pension bill from Illinois and Kentucky and every place else, you're fooling yourself.

00:16:26.880 So, what happens?

00:16:32.240 Serious question. 0.98

00:16:33.900 Oh, we're screwed. 0.99

00:16:34.900 You didn't know that? 0.98

00:16:35.700 I thought we were working in that world already.

00:16:39.960 Yeah, no, I mean, it's a massive problem.

00:16:43.300 To finish that list, by the way, it was Lee Cruz, Johnson from Wisconsin, Rand Paul.

00:16:49.640 I mentioned Susan Collins and, oh, Heller from Nevada is the other one of the six that are right now sort of indicating potential no votes.

00:17:00.980 Well, Ron Johnson, Ron Johnson's didn't say that, like Mike Lee is coming out and saying, no, unless you do this one thing.

00:17:08.860 Ron Johnson just said, there's no way we should be voting on this, quote, no way we should be voting on this, no way.

00:17:16.720 I have a hard time believing Wisconsin's constituents or even myself have enough time to properly evaluate this for me and my vote for a motion to proceed.

00:17:26.920 So, he's just saying, they're just jamming it down our throats and no thank you.

00:17:31.860 Yeah, and it's one thing to toss out a comment about, okay, well, this is coming too fast.

00:17:37.080 You feel like a lot of times people make those sorts of complaints and then come around in the end.

00:17:43.600 He also wrote an extensive op-ed in the New York Times today about how much he doesn't like the proposal.

00:17:49.100 So, it's not just that he's saying, well, we shouldn't vote on it this week.

00:17:53.800 He's listing out a lot of pretty significant problems with it.

00:17:58.080 And, you know, without, with that and, you know, this is a, if you have Susan Collins and Ted Cruz who are showing some sort of opposition to this and Mike Lee, you're having problems on both sides, which is the same issue they had in the House.

00:18:11.660 Of course, as we all know, the House wound up getting over those things eventually.

00:18:15.520 So, they may wind up passing this thing, but it's not going to be easy.

00:18:19.380 It is going to be a, it's going to be very difficult for them to get this done, especially this week.

00:18:23.380 I'm afraid that if they don't get it done, Donald Trump scraps the whole thing and we have a single-payer system.

00:18:39.560 That was quite a leap.

00:18:41.720 Yeah, well, I mean, he obviously has talked about that many times in the past.

00:18:45.060 No, he's promised it and said that that's what he wants.

00:18:47.760 I mean, this, look, you know, let's go back to the original Obamacare specialist that said, people say this is a Trojan horse.

00:18:56.880 Well, it is.

00:18:57.480 It's right there.

00:18:58.600 And they were talking about a Trojan horse that it's going to collapse and then we'll have a single-payer system.

00:19:04.120 And that's what Donald Trump has advocated for, that this is scrapped and repealed, and then we get a system that is basic, universal, single-payer health care that the government pays for all of it.

00:19:20.400 I mean, he said he's willing to lose votes on that.

00:19:23.520 He repeated that over and over again.

00:19:25.660 And then when this bill came out, he said it was too mean.

00:19:28.960 And he said throw more money into it.

00:19:31.500 Right.

00:19:31.740 I mean, so when Obamacare collapses, which it will, Mike Lee is saying, let's use this time to find out what will work.

00:19:42.040 And if somebody wants to try a single-payer system out, try it.

00:19:45.420 It's going to end up like Massachusetts, but try it.

00:19:48.620 We're going to try something different in another state.

00:19:51.440 And that's the way it should be.

00:19:53.320 But if it collapses, and it collapses without any experimentation anyplace else, I can guarantee you the Republicans and the Democrats are going to go for a failed single-payer system because they're still operating like it's 1956.

00:20:09.120 Back in just a second.

00:20:10.520 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:20:26.260 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:28.200 A very good friend of the program and one of the more decent men I know, Riaz Patal, is joining us now.

00:20:37.160 Riaz has been away for a while and been out of the country, had a new baby, has been spending time with his family, and unfortunately has lost his dear father here recently.

00:20:51.540 Riaz, how are you holding up, brother?

00:20:53.140 I'm okay.

00:20:53.760 Hi, Glenn.

00:20:54.440 Nice to hear your voice.

00:20:55.760 Hello.

00:20:56.200 Good to hear you.

00:20:56.760 Good to hear you.

00:20:57.320 I wanted to talk to you today a little bit, Riaz, about, you know, we had kind of a nice conversation over the last week about our dads and losing your dad and what that feels like.

00:21:13.500 It's a weird thing that never seems to go away.

00:21:17.140 It's like a refall of sadness and emotion.

00:21:20.200 It's so visceral.

00:21:21.140 It's so hard to explain.

00:21:22.180 I mean, when we were going back and forth, it was one of those things that I'm like, if you've been through it, you sort of sense it.

00:21:28.080 It's intense.

00:21:29.620 Yeah.

00:21:30.100 And it's strange because it, at least with me, and I don't know about anybody else, but at least with me, the memories of my mother and my father have changed.

00:21:45.320 And they change as I get older, and it's weird.

00:21:53.480 Depending on which part of them you want to focus on, they become either better or worse than they really were.

00:22:03.440 I mean, it's so recent.

00:22:06.260 It's, you know, less than two, three weeks.

00:22:08.660 You know, when we were talking, I couldn't imagine that memory adjusting and changing.

00:22:13.000 But, you know, I'm only a couple weeks in, so I imagine life is long.

00:22:16.080 It will.

00:22:16.860 Yeah.

00:22:17.080 You really want to write down everything you knew about your dad because it will change and you'll forget some things.

00:22:22.980 I started yesterday, per your advice.

00:22:24.660 I actually did.

00:22:25.160 I started writing down all the memories, good, bad, all that, to sort of keep it fresh where it is now and notice how it changes over time.

00:22:33.620 Yeah.

00:22:34.180 So, Riaz, your dad was a doctor, and he was a doctor on three continents with three different systems of medicine.

00:22:45.140 And you and I were also going back and forth on health care.

00:22:48.840 And you are, you know, a lefty or a liberal, if you will, but you're also the guy who went up to Alaska during the Trump campaign.

00:23:00.920 And all of your friends were saying, how could these people ever vote for Trump?

00:23:05.020 And as you looked at it, you went up to Alaska and you saw the suffering of people in the country and said they're afraid they're losing everything and they don't have they don't have the money to be able to survive in this if it continues this way.

00:23:24.180 Yeah, yeah, part of the quest of what do I not know out there?

00:23:27.860 What do I think I know but I not know?

00:23:30.000 And you'd have to be pretty deaf to not be able to hear that health care is broken.

00:23:35.820 And I don't know anyone, anyone, if you were to ask people to raise their hands, would raise their hand and say, yep, it's working for me.

00:23:41.760 And so it was fascinating as I was sitting in the aftermath of my father's death and talking to his secretaries, Bernie and Ruth, who'd been with him for 20, 30 years, about the patients, the patient community, because he's been there for 40 plus years.

00:23:55.780 So those patients are going to feel the change.

00:23:58.240 And as we discussed that patient community of Edgewood, Maryland, I realized it's very much a microcosm of what's happened in America.

00:24:05.680 And what's fascinating is the way my dad adapted his practice and the practice of medicine to the changing economic times.

00:24:12.300 Edgewood, Maryland is a blue collar town.

00:24:14.600 And over the past 40 years, it has systematically decreased its income.

00:24:19.840 I mean, jobs went out.

00:24:21.040 I remember factories closing when I was a teenager, but people still got sick and people still slipped and fell.

00:24:26.360 And so what happened when they lost their jobs, they lost their income, they lost their insurance, but they still got sick.

00:24:33.260 And they went to my dad and my dad created this island, you know, and it's not that uncommon for a doctor to just want to practice medicine and say, to hell with the insurance and the pre-approvals.

00:24:43.800 And for a doctor, it's insane.

00:24:45.880 I think most doctors are like that.

00:24:48.960 Most doctors just hate the system.

00:24:52.320 They want to treat people and they hate the system.

00:24:56.840 You go through four years of undergrad, four years of medical school.

00:25:00.800 You end up with this enormous amount of debt and you come out and you cannot practice medicine freely.

00:25:06.740 You cannot make decisions autonomously between you and your patient that's sitting in front of you bleeding.

00:25:11.500 You have to go consult with people who have nothing to do with that patient dynamic.

00:25:15.540 And that's infuriating to doctors.

00:25:18.240 It's infuriating to patients.

00:25:20.200 So what I'm really angry about these days is the business of the politics of health care.

00:25:25.760 There is enough money out there, Glenn, to cover us all.

00:25:28.260 I saw patients come to my father's house in the 1970s when we had it out of our garage.

00:25:33.520 To treat patients on a day-to-day basis is not that expensive.

00:25:38.640 Why does it become so prohibitive?

00:25:40.560 Why can the patient receive the care, the doctor not treat?

00:25:43.840 Where is the money going?

00:25:44.860 So, Riaz, here's part of the problem.

00:25:47.780 If I am spending somebody else's money, and let me say this carefully.

00:25:55.160 One of the problems is with the employer insurance and you not having to shop around.

00:26:04.220 When we are responsible for our own money, when somebody says to us,

00:26:09.080 Hey, I can get you in for a CAT scan right here, right now.

00:26:13.600 And it's, I'm just making numbers up, $1,000.

00:26:16.940 Or you can drive in Dallas.

00:26:21.060 There's a place you can drive from my house.

00:26:24.420 There's one that you can drive just down the street.

00:26:27.420 You'll have to make an appointment.

00:26:29.140 You'll get it by tomorrow.

00:26:30.460 But it's not right here.

00:26:32.680 And it's half the cost.

00:26:34.780 Same thing, just half the cost.

00:26:37.320 Which shows the fluctuation of pricing that has nothing to do with the actual administration of medicine.

00:26:42.900 Well, convenience, I mean, one thing is convenience.

00:26:47.420 And also, these companies being able to gouge your eyes out because most people, they don't care about the price.

00:26:55.540 Because it's not them paying for it.

00:26:57.620 And so, when you remove the responsibility of, wait a minute, it's my money.

00:27:02.120 I'm going to have to pay for it.

00:27:04.780 Then you, for instance, with home insurance, I could file.

00:27:10.200 My home was struck by lightning this weekend.

00:27:13.380 I was looking to that, Glenn.

00:27:14.760 I know.

00:27:17.020 I know.

00:27:17.460 Wait a minute.

00:27:18.120 What are you saying there?

00:27:19.820 So, it was struck by lightning.

00:27:21.400 And I said to my wife, she was gone.

00:27:23.340 And she, you know, worked with her dad, who's an insurance agent.

00:27:25.740 And I'm like, you know, blew the TV, blew the system, you know, blew a whole bunch of stuff.

00:27:32.700 And she said, well, we have a huge deductible. 0.96

00:27:37.480 And I thought, oh, crap. 0.97

00:27:39.340 We do, don't we? 0.99

00:27:40.760 Oh, it's not free anymore.

00:27:42.340 And so, you know, you start to now care.

00:27:45.320 Wait a minute.

00:27:45.880 Who did I call?

00:27:47.320 Let's make sure we're pricing this the right way.

00:27:49.960 And so, there is a difference.

00:27:51.100 And it's the free market system.

00:27:52.440 And Washington is taking it even further.

00:27:55.200 They're just making deals with the government, or with the insurance companies, and with all the people who are getting rich, including them.

00:28:03.240 So, my father was, you know, in the 1970s and 80s, was a medical director of a hospital, a small hospital in this area.

00:28:09.340 And I watched, as a kid, as the board, he ran all the decisions of this hospital.

00:28:14.020 Who needed what?

00:28:14.720 When they needed it.

00:28:15.480 How long they'd stay.

00:28:16.900 Then, eventually, there was one MBA.

00:28:18.680 Then, two MBAs.

00:28:19.820 And then, eventually, there were no doctors represented.

00:28:22.520 So, everything we're talking about, whether it's two-party systems, single-party systems, the government, insurance, pre-approvals, none of that has anything to do with you and your doctor.

00:28:32.080 And, to me, what my father brought, having trained in Karachi, Pakistan, in London, England, was a very different perspective that you treat first your physician, and then the billing comes next.

00:28:43.040 And what he did is said, you're sick, you come in.

00:28:45.160 And then, you go to billing.

00:28:46.320 And what happened is, it became so personal that Ruth or Bernie would say to Mr. Johnson, okay, here's what happened.

00:28:52.280 And Mr. Johnson would say, I don't have my job.

00:28:53.880 I don't have insurance.

00:28:54.480 But I can pay $40, and they would be like, okay, because we know, in healthcare, that's better than nothing.

00:29:01.100 And my father would just say, the personal responsibility of a physician to treat is the joy of his life.

00:29:07.440 And at a certain point, working at the hospital, it was so bureaucratic with the lawyers and the MBAs and the lobbyists in a small hospital that he actually left the hospital, built his own surgical center, and said, I cannot practice medicine appropriately in the way it works.

00:29:23.500 What you're asking for, though, is a return to common sense and a return to trust in neighbors.

00:29:31.560 I'm reading this book called Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me.

00:29:35.540 And it talks about why we don't say I'm sorry.

00:29:40.600 And it gets to this one place about doctors.

00:29:42.600 And they tracked doctors in a study of those who said, wow, I made a huge mistake, all the way to a doctor who came out of surgery.

00:29:53.560 The patient dies.

00:29:55.000 And he says, look, I don't know what the autopsy is going to show.

00:30:00.580 I don't know.

00:30:01.180 There'll be an investigation.

00:30:02.580 But your husband died, and I believe it was my fault.

00:30:06.020 And they were angry.

00:30:07.540 And he said, look, I didn't have any reason to suspect this, but I just really feel like I should have caught that.

00:30:14.620 And I just want you to know I take responsibility.

00:30:17.620 The doctors that say the truth are the least likely to be sued.

00:30:24.400 But because of the system that has been set up by the attorneys and everything else, nobody's having real conversations with each other.

00:30:32.300 And that is the problem.

00:30:33.460 And so in this tiny patient community of Edgewood, they were able to create this walk-in medical center, nothing fancy, where neighbors walked in up to three, four generations and were treated.

00:30:43.580 And to me, in my father was diagnosed with cancer and was dead in seven weeks, literally.

00:30:49.000 I would say we spent 80% of our time trying to navigate insurance.

00:30:55.440 Was this pre-approved?

00:30:56.380 Was this equipment sent?

00:30:57.460 And my father treated a quarter million patients over the course of his life.

00:31:01.060 We could not get a bed for him to ease his pain because we could not track down the paperwork.

00:31:06.860 So his last five days of his life, he sat in pain because the four of us, you have, I'm a producer.

00:31:13.580 My sister's a lawyer. 0.61

00:31:14.580 My other sister's a physician with her own practice.

00:31:16.660 My husband manages health care.

00:31:18.000 The four of us could not navigate the system.

00:31:21.220 And each day my father sat there in pain and we said, I think the bed's arriving today.

00:31:25.120 I called the office.

00:31:26.020 I called the home health.

00:31:27.340 I called the person.

00:31:28.560 All we did was manage it.

00:31:30.000 And I'm thinking after he's dead and I'm standing there near the grave and I'm like, how can this continue?

00:31:36.360 How can a person get sick and go to their doctor and 4,000 people and 10 million letters will go on that has nothing to do with that dynamic?

00:31:45.400 I have about two minutes.

00:31:48.620 Can you talk a little bit about the off-the-grid medicine that you saw in Alaska?

00:31:52.360 So in Alaska, when I was there, I saw in the local paper that they actually were advertising doctors were coming and setting up, basically bundling your health care, saying people are not going to doctor's offices because they don't have insurance and money.

00:32:04.020 But you cannot avoid your own health.

00:32:05.900 And so these doctors would come roving through these small towns and say, look, I'll do it for this much cash.

00:32:10.680 And I think at a certain point, this is true of all we're discussing, bringing it bottom up.

00:32:16.420 We need to bring it back to basics.

00:32:18.280 You and your doctor need to decide what is best for you and how to pay for it.

00:32:22.440 So one third is going to policy and bureaucracy.

00:32:25.000 That's insane.

00:32:25.860 So Mike Lease, the senator, the most conservative senator or one of them, just wrote an op-ed and said, look, I'll sign on.

00:32:34.800 This is this is not going to fix anything.

00:32:36.600 It's already premiums from Obamacare are up 140 percent.

00:32:41.340 There's nothing in this Trump care that's going to make that any better.

00:32:44.720 He said, I'll sign on.

00:32:46.040 But only if you let states opt out and come up with their own thing, he said, because I believe the people of the country will figure it out in their own way if you just leave them alone.

00:32:59.680 Do you agree with that?

00:33:00.740 I believe it is so broken right now.

00:33:03.000 I do not know how to fix it.

00:33:04.200 But I know that people will still slip and fall.

00:33:06.460 They will still feel unwell on a Monday morning and they need to go to their doctor.

00:33:09.940 So I don't know what D.C. or politicians or insurance are going to do with their multibillion dollar lobby.

00:33:14.780 But I really encourage people, if they're sick, to go to their local physician and say, here's what's going on.

00:33:20.220 This is my life.

00:33:21.860 The insurance companies have removed that ability to talk to your doctor and vice versa about the fact that, hey, I'm sick, but I don't have money.

00:33:29.220 How can I be treated?

00:33:30.500 And there's money for all of us to be cared for.

00:33:33.140 But the business of politics of health care is absorbing it all.

00:33:37.680 Riaz, always good to talk to you.

00:33:39.200 And I'm so sorry for the loss of your father.

00:33:41.060 Thank you.

00:33:41.460 Good to talk to you.

00:33:42.300 God bless you.

00:33:42.780 We'll see you soon.

00:33:43.440 Thank you.

00:33:43.920 Bye-bye.

00:33:45.040 Riaz Patel.

00:33:48.440 I know that in Texas, this is the feeling of many of the doctors of, you know what, I'm just pulling out of the system and I'll just deal with it myself.

00:33:57.860 I personally think that as we get closer to universal single payer system, those doctors are going to be told you can't do that.

00:34:07.080 But that is the solution.

00:34:09.080 Leave people alone and they will work it out on the most basic level.

00:34:17.680 Now, maybe they won't in the big cities.

00:34:19.340 So the cities do something else.

00:34:21.080 But they will around the rest of the country.

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00:35:44.980 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:35:49.200 Welcome to the program.

00:35:50.380 So, Stu, when are they suspecting that they are going to vote?

00:35:55.860 Oh, like in a minute.

00:35:57.140 I mean, they're saying this week, right? 0.89

00:35:58.980 I mean, which seems completely ridiculous.

00:36:01.140 They want to get right on it.

00:36:02.120 They want to get on it.

00:36:02.760 I think you're right.

00:36:03.700 Your July 4th weekend sort of analysis is, you know, hey, people are not going to be really thinking about it.

00:36:12.200 It's going to happen.

00:36:13.300 If you remember, Obamacare was passed on Christmas Eve, was it?

00:36:16.440 Yeah.

00:36:16.580 So, this is standard practice for these guys.

00:36:20.860 Remember, it happened not just on Obamacare.

00:36:23.180 It happened on a lot of these things that Obama passed.

00:36:27.560 If I remember right, it was always right before a major holiday that nobody was paying attention.

00:36:33.400 And they would pass these things.

00:36:35.740 And by the time you got back to work, it was just old news.

00:36:38.320 Right.

00:36:38.540 I mean, go back to even George W. Bush, who passed the limitations on regular light bulbs.

00:36:45.980 It happened on...

00:36:47.000 That happened right before Christmas as well, right after Christmas.

00:36:49.580 Yeah, it was like New Year's Eve or something like that.

00:36:52.380 Yeah, they do this stuff all the time.

00:36:55.500 Yeah.

00:36:55.620 So, this would be standard practice here.

00:36:58.580 I mean, there's going to be a lot of changes if they're going to want to get it passed, though.

00:37:01.720 Is Brad Thor on with us next?

00:37:04.380 He's on, I think he's on our three today.

00:37:06.800 Hour three.

00:37:07.400 Brad Thor is joining us.

00:37:09.120 Brad Thor is, let's say, never boring.

00:37:14.760 Always controversial.

00:37:16.320 And he's got a new book out.

00:37:18.420 We'll talk to Brad Thor coming up.

00:37:20.320 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:37:45.820 Lots of tweets this weekend about crazy Bernie Sanders.

00:37:52.140 There is a reason for that.

00:37:54.400 Also, why did the American teenager in North Korea die?

00:38:03.440 Did he contract some bug, some virus from something he ate?

00:38:09.800 Or was he beaten to death?

00:38:11.460 We now have some details.

00:38:14.540 And it certainly requires a response from the United States.

00:38:18.780 What that response is, God help us all, I don't know.

00:38:22.800 And summer jobs.

00:38:25.420 Your first summer job.

00:38:28.220 Kids aren't working now.

00:38:30.300 We'll give you the stats, and they're pretty remarkable.

00:38:32.580 And the truth behind the $15 minimum wage in Seattle.

00:38:36.900 According to the University of Washington.

00:38:40.780 You are not going to believe what they said.

00:38:44.600 We begin there right now.

00:38:47.020 I will make a stand.

00:38:49.700 I will raise my voice.

00:38:51.980 I will hold your hand.

00:38:54.360 Because we are one.

00:38:56.200 I will beat my drum.

00:38:58.420 I have made my choice.

00:39:00.660 We will overcome.

00:39:02.960 Because we are one.

00:39:04.800 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:39:08.680 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:13.900 You know, one of the most heartbreaking things that I have as a dad

00:39:20.440 is the memory of what this country used to be like.

00:39:26.320 And the knowledge now that if you were born anywhere from 1998, 1995 really,

00:39:36.940 to today, you have no memory at all of what this country was like before September 11th.

00:39:44.700 September 11th changed absolutely everything.

00:39:48.460 The Clinton administration was the beginning of this nastiness that just went beyond where we started pitting against each other.

00:40:05.340 If you were a liberal or a conservative, if you voted for this guy, you were part of the problem.

00:40:13.400 I don't remember that when I was a kid.

00:40:17.300 I posted something this weekend on Facebook about leadership.

00:40:22.900 And honestly, it was something for me.

00:40:24.860 It was something that I've been really trying to study and try to be a better leader at my home and also at the office.

00:40:34.880 It had nothing to do with politics and, man, it just set everybody off.

00:40:40.840 The liberals and the conservatives were just screaming at each other.

00:40:44.940 And I wrote in the comment section, when did we become this?

00:40:49.160 When did politics become absolutely everything?

00:40:54.880 When did that happen to us?

00:40:56.280 It's summer.

00:41:02.600 Do you remember what summer was like when you were a kid?

00:41:06.640 The last day of school?

00:41:09.360 Do you remember the last week?

00:41:10.880 All you did was just look outside.

00:41:13.800 And there was just this really great feeling of that, that butterfly in your stomach.

00:41:21.180 That excitement for what's about to happen.

00:41:26.420 We might have butterflies in our stomach now, but it's more of a, I think I'm going to vomit feeling when we're thinking about what might happen.

00:41:34.740 Back then, it was just excitement.

00:41:39.740 And then when that bell rang, that last bell rang, and you said goodbye to your teacher.

00:41:45.100 And you knew you were graduating to another class just down the hall.

00:41:53.700 And you were a bigger kid now.

00:41:57.300 It was like being freed.

00:42:01.360 Suddenly you had no obligations, nothing jamming up your days, nothing to force you to bed early every night.

00:42:08.460 And the next three months seemed like a year or a decade.

00:42:16.480 I look back at my childhood, and it is the summers that I really remember.

00:42:21.960 It's not the school days.

00:42:23.800 At least in early childhood, it is the summer that marked you.

00:42:28.880 And every summer was different and more exciting.

00:42:31.880 It's different than it is now because we weren't restricted as much.

00:42:39.780 Our parents weren't freaking out that somebody might, you know, invite us into the house, eat us, and lock the rest of the remains up in their freezer.

00:42:48.440 We didn't, it was simpler times.

00:42:50.040 We didn't worry about the cannibal down the street.

00:42:54.500 And the whole town was fair game for us.

00:42:57.460 We would get our friends together, and we'd leave early in the morning.

00:43:02.320 Mom would just say, be home for dinner. 1.00

00:43:06.820 And then after dinner, it would be, just get home before the streetlights go out.

00:43:11.220 Well, the streetlights don't go out anymore.

00:43:19.080 Didn't happen until 10 o'clock sometimes where I lived up in the north.

00:43:24.380 Streetlights wouldn't, streetlights wouldn't come on.

00:43:27.920 Until very, very late.

00:43:33.420 As I got up in the morning, it would be freezing cold in my room.

00:43:39.380 Because up in the Pacific Northwest, it can get down to 40 at night, 50 at night.

00:43:45.260 It was just great.

00:43:46.720 And you could smell the freshly mown grass.

00:43:50.120 Sprinklers would be on.

00:43:53.960 Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.

00:43:57.880 And it would just gently coax you out of bed.

00:44:01.540 You'd get dressed.

00:44:03.160 You'd have to finish your chores.

00:44:04.720 Maybe you had to mow the lawn in the morning first thing.

00:44:07.280 And you'd race out the door.

00:44:09.960 The day would be usually mine because on those days that I didn't have to work as a kid.

00:44:15.160 We'd just go out.

00:44:17.560 Both my parents were working.

00:44:18.940 And you'd just go out.

00:44:19.580 And the day was completely yours.

00:44:21.280 And you'd hear.

00:44:21.720 You didn't leave the.

00:44:22.940 You didn't close the door.

00:44:24.420 You just.

00:44:25.020 You just let go of the screen door.

00:44:26.840 And with that giant spring up at top.

00:44:29.360 Just slap the front of the house.

00:44:31.100 I love the smell of lilacs because they remind me of that time and they'd just fill your nostrils with that great smell until I would clog up from allergies, mainly from the lawn that I had just mowed.

00:44:54.240 If we could scrounge up a quarter, we'd walk or we'd take our bike to the A&W root beer place and we'd have a cold, frosty mug of root beer.

00:45:09.400 If we were really fortunate and feeling like we were wealthy, somehow or another we could scrape up enough change to make a dollar.

00:45:19.500 We could get a mama burger, but the papa burger was far too expensive.

00:45:24.240 And then that hot summer day turned into a warm summer night.

00:45:29.280 Sometimes we could convince our parents to let us sleep outside, which of course would lead to middle of the night ghost stories or talking about girls.

00:45:40.380 And I don't know.

00:45:41.600 Did you have you talked to her?

00:45:44.460 I mean, does she like me?

00:45:46.360 Do you know what's your friend say?

00:45:48.300 Even though you had absolutely no chance of ever talking to any of the girls, you talked about the girls a lot.

00:45:55.160 And perhaps some would play, you know, like Ding Dong Ditch or something, you know, I wouldn't know what that was, but.

00:46:06.020 It's a different world now.

00:46:12.980 500 channels on TV, every movie in the world available on demand on your TV, your computer, your phone.

00:46:20.420 Texting at the dinner table.

00:46:22.320 Our kids don't even look at each other anymore, let alone go outside and play.

00:46:25.900 This summer, Rafe is helping with a, he helped with a gate, stripping it down, and now we're working on the fence around the cows.

00:46:43.720 And I was so proud of him that he wanted to work.

00:46:49.920 Actually, he didn't want to work.

00:46:51.260 He just wanted the money.

00:46:52.100 But that's a step in the right direction.

00:46:55.100 At least he knows he has to work to earn the money.

00:46:59.580 I got a job when I was eight years old.

00:47:03.260 Probably earlier than that, but I know for sure by eight I was working.

00:47:08.700 1972, I was working in my dad's bakery.

00:47:11.740 And we didn't have to work every day during the summer, just most days during the summer.

00:47:16.560 I have to work in the afternoons.

00:47:18.200 And I would go down in the late afternoon and I would have to clean the pots and pans and scrape the floor and clean everything up once dad stopped.

00:47:27.140 And then I'd go home.

00:47:29.340 And I got $1.60.

00:47:31.140 I'll never forget.

00:47:31.920 It was $1.60 an hour.

00:47:33.520 And that was huge money.

00:47:36.980 That was minimum wage. 0.77

00:47:38.560 My sister would get paid more. 1.00

00:47:41.620 As we got older, my sisters also worked out in the front of the bakery. 0.94

00:47:46.460 But as they got old enough, they could get a job someplace else if they wanted.

00:47:50.940 And as soon as my sister turned 18, she drove a big pea viner. 0.86

00:47:57.200 And we lived in the Skagit Valley and we had tulips and peas and all kinds of stuff.

00:48:05.960 And the pea viners would go out.

00:48:07.240 They were these gigantic machines.

00:48:09.560 And I remember thinking my sister was so cool because she could drive one of those.

00:48:16.440 And then late, we would go to my grandparents' house and we would pick berries.

00:48:23.340 They had a raspberry farm.

00:48:28.980 Now kids aren't doing this.

00:48:31.780 The latest stats are that in 1986, 57% of Americans age 16 to 19 were employed.

00:48:42.580 Almost 60%, whether they were working at the Dairy Queen or the A&W, 60% were employed.

00:48:49.020 And it stayed over 50% until 2002.

00:48:54.160 But again, something in America changed after 9-11.

00:48:59.800 By last July, only 36% were working.

00:49:05.560 Now, there's a couple of reasons for this.

00:49:08.960 One of the reasons is in 1986, only 12% of teenagers were going to a summer school. 0.89

00:49:17.540 And quite honestly, summer school was for dummies.

00:49:20.540 When I was growing up, you went to summer school. 0.96

00:49:22.680 Ooh, wow, you had that many problems, huh?

00:49:25.020 Now, summer school, the numbers have risen to 42%.

00:49:29.620 So almost half of the kids are going to summer school.

00:49:33.440 And a lot of these are because they're going to college and they want to get ahead.

00:49:38.260 I think we need summer school because our schools have failed us so horribly.

00:49:48.900 I went and got a graphic novel for my son this weekend.

00:49:53.360 I've been trying to get him to read some of the classics and he just will not read the classics.

00:49:58.260 They're hard.

00:49:59.880 I don't remember them being hard.

00:50:02.060 You know, you read Frankenstein or, you know, even Dracula, anything.

00:50:08.400 And now the action is so slow.

00:50:11.960 It takes so long.

00:50:13.360 It was all about the story.

00:50:14.860 Now it's action, action, action, action, action, action, action.

00:50:18.000 That they get bored.

00:50:20.440 I have not been able to.

00:50:22.120 I tried to read Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde to him this summer.

00:50:26.000 He just wouldn't sit for it.

00:50:27.160 So I went to the Barnes and Noble and I got the graphic novels and they're true to the story.

00:50:35.820 Well, he read Dr. Jekyll.

00:50:37.760 He read Frankenstein and Dracula on Saturday.

00:50:43.640 And now said, I really want to read them.

00:50:47.200 Dad, Frankenstein isn't anything like I thought.

00:50:51.640 I know, son.

00:50:52.800 I've been telling you that.

00:50:57.160 So now I think you have to go to summer school.

00:51:07.020 But where do you get a job?

00:51:09.300 The other reason why kids aren't working anymore is because there are more people that are older that are working.

00:51:15.620 And this, I think, is for two reasons.

00:51:17.680 One, they know their pensions aren't coming true.

00:51:21.680 They have to work.

00:51:23.080 Many of them don't want to work.

00:51:25.820 But also, I don't know about you, but I don't want to retire when I'm 65.

00:51:31.880 65 used to be old.

00:51:34.740 65 isn't old.

00:51:39.260 I don't want to retire.

00:51:41.120 What are you going to do?

00:51:42.820 Shuffle around? 0.99

00:51:44.020 Die?

00:51:44.920 Go play golf?

00:51:45.900 I know there's a lot of people going, yes, Glenn, I'm going to go play golf.

00:51:51.940 Play golf now.

00:51:54.340 My father wanted to play golf.

00:51:55.880 He waited his whole life.

00:51:57.040 You know, one day I'm going to retire.

00:51:58.060 I'm going to play golf.

00:51:58.700 By the time he retired, he couldn't play golf.

00:52:02.300 His body was too destroyed.

00:52:06.520 He retired.

00:52:07.420 He couldn't wait to retire.

00:52:09.680 He went back to work.

00:52:10.780 He was bored out of his mind.

00:52:12.220 The other reason why kids aren't working is because the minimum wage.

00:52:18.280 When the minimum wage goes up and there's unemployment and people that have experience that want to work, businesses don't hire the kids that they have to train on what work is all about.

00:52:30.700 They generally go to the people who have experience and know what work is all about, and they'll hire them because they're more dependable.

00:52:39.580 Now, what's happening in Seattle?

00:52:41.260 Remember, Seattle, we were told that Seattle, the minimum wage, it's going to be great for everybody.

00:52:47.920 Well, apparently it's not.

00:52:50.060 And I'm going to share with you something from the University of Washington.

00:52:55.260 Not exactly a conservative, you know, bastion.

00:53:01.300 What are they saying is happening to Seattle and what is happening in Seattle?

00:53:05.820 Well, you're not going to be surprised, but everybody on the left is shocked.

00:53:13.340 We'll give that to you here in just a second.

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00:54:46.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:54:52.500 I love this from FiveThirtyEight.

00:54:54.980 Seattle's minimum wage hike may have gone too far.

00:54:59.420 No.

00:55:00.080 No.

00:55:00.860 Oh, it can't be.

00:55:01.880 Come on.

00:55:02.320 Stop it.

00:55:03.180 The research doesn't even cover the full increase.

00:55:05.940 It only covers it to $13 an hour, not even to $15 an hour.

00:55:09.540 So if they went too far for $13, can you imagine what this is going to look like when the next elevation comes?

00:55:14.780 Listen to this.

00:55:15.380 As cities across the country push for minimum wages at untested heights in recent years, some economists began to ask, how high is too high?

00:55:23.280 Seattle, with the highest in-country minimum wage, may have hit that limit.

00:55:27.900 January 2016, Seattle minimum wage jumped from $11 an hour to $13 for large employers, the second big increase in less than a year.

00:55:37.420 New research released Monday by a team of economists at the University of Washington.

00:55:43.340 There's not a socialist that is an unemployed teacher as long as the University of Washington is still open.

00:55:52.060 There's a socialist without a job?

00:55:54.680 Quick, get him to the university.

00:55:57.040 They suggest the wage hike may have come at a significant cost.

00:56:01.180 Now, this is, I want you to know, this is unexpected.

00:56:04.740 The increase led to steep declines in unemployment for low-wage workers.

00:56:10.860 A drop of hours for those who kept their jobs.

00:56:14.500 Crucially, the negative impact of lost jobs and hours more than offset the benefits of the higher wages.

00:56:20.120 On average, low-wage workers earned $125 a month less because of the higher wage.

00:56:27.700 A small but significant decline.

00:56:29.740 Oh, I don't know.

00:56:30.960 $125, if I'm working minimum wage, is not a small and insignificant decline.

00:56:36.080 No, it says a significant.

00:56:37.200 The other thing I would mention, too, Glenn, you said a decline in unemployment unintentionally.

00:56:41.420 It is a decline in employment.

00:56:44.140 I'm sorry, yes.

00:56:44.940 It is a decline in employment.

00:56:45.500 It's important to note.

00:56:46.440 Yes, the goal of this policy was to deliver higher incomes to people who were struggling to make ends meet in the city.

00:56:53.560 Now, could we please go back into the audio vault and find when we were having this debate on the air?

00:56:59.780 And I would like a highlight reel of us saying, this is exactly what is going to happen.

00:57:09.860 Exactly.

00:57:10.800 We mentioned all of these.

00:57:12.820 Now they need a university to say, this is what's happening.

00:57:16.600 This is kind of unexpected.

00:57:17.900 We didn't really see this one coming.

00:57:19.280 We thought this was, you know, we didn't learn this in school.

00:57:24.320 Of course, we haven't been teaching, you know, the free market by any stretch of the imagination.

00:57:29.540 So we don't really know what was going to happen.

00:57:32.300 But this doesn't look good.

00:57:33.940 They note in this article, this is not peer reviewed yet.

00:57:37.140 They're going to get some peers to review and say, oh, no, University of Washington, they didn't understand the fluffamagug, which is a theory that changes everything.

00:57:49.920 And we'll get into that here in a second.

00:57:55.140 We are one.

00:57:58.620 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:01.620 Work your head.

00:58:02.940 The Glenn Beck Program.

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00:58:10.900 Hello, America.

00:58:12.240 There is a lot going on, especially with the Supreme Court.

00:58:17.880 We'll get to an in-depth look at all of this on tomorrow.

00:58:21.580 But I want to give you the update.

00:58:23.040 It looks like we could have, as early as today, a retirement announcement from Kennedy.

00:58:29.640 Justice Kennedy, remember, was appointed by Ronald Reagan.

00:58:34.140 He was supposed to be a great conservative, and they never turn out that way.

00:58:39.520 But he has been important on some things for the conservatives.

00:58:46.580 He has been good on, I believe, guns and the free market, but he is the guy who penned the majority opinion for gay marriage. 0.81

00:59:04.260 So he has been undependable for either side.

00:59:07.900 He has gone back and forth.

00:59:10.280 If we can get a real conservative in there, it will be fantastic because it will make the court solidly and dependably conservative at this point.

00:59:24.420 If you get three to retire, then conservatives have changed the face of America for quite some time.

00:59:31.680 Although I don't believe that we I mean, we could do the greatest work, the hardest work ever unless we listen to people like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee.

00:59:42.220 We're not going to get conservatives in there.

00:59:44.560 We still have yet to see Gorsuch, but we're hoping that Gorsuch is a change in what has been the usual pattern from the Reagans and the Bushes. 0.98

00:59:52.460 Now, there's a couple of really big stories coming out of the court today because they are going to take a couple of cases.

00:59:59.240 First, there is a gay wedding cake controversy.

01:00:03.080 Do you know which case this is, Stu?

01:00:05.420 Sorry, say one more time.

01:00:06.460 I was just reading another update. 0.98

01:00:07.880 Yeah, the gay wedding cake. 1.00

01:00:09.380 Yeah, it's the one in Colorado. 0.88

01:00:12.000 It's I can give you the name here.

01:00:14.280 Masterpiece Cake Shop.

01:00:15.300 Yeah, yes.

01:00:15.760 Masterpiece.

01:00:16.260 And what happened, Pat, in that one?

01:00:17.720 I don't remember.

01:00:18.720 Let's see.

01:00:19.420 The lower court had ruled that Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop, violated Colorado's public accommodations law, which prohibits refusing service to customers based on factors such as race, sex, marital status.

01:00:33.340 Again, it's the same type as the one in Oregon because he just didn't.

01:00:38.320 He refused to do the wedding cake.

01:00:40.420 He didn't refuse to sell them cakes.

01:00:42.900 Right.

01:00:43.120 So you could walk in and buy something off the shelf.

01:00:45.800 Yeah.

01:00:45.900 He just didn't want to participate in their event.

01:00:49.120 Okay.

01:00:49.660 But apparently you have to.

01:00:52.080 This is going to be, this is game changing.

01:00:54.960 I believe this is as game changing as the Commerce Clause.

01:01:00.380 And most people don't understand what the Commerce Clause is, but the clause that really changed everything is in the Constitution.

01:01:09.800 And it's really pretty meaningless, or at least it was as it was written.

01:01:14.980 It basically said if there's interstate commerce, then the the federal government gets to rule when there's a when there's trouble.

01:01:28.100 Um, and that's because the states were fighting against each other and they, you know, they, they were really basically 13 original countries and that's how they were behaving.

01:01:40.200 They had their own currency.

01:01:41.400 They had their own banking.

01:01:42.660 They had their own laws.

01:01:44.060 And so the federal government said, look, guys, just to avoid war between the 13 colonies, if it's interstate commerce, then we'll regulate that.

01:01:55.880 So we make sure that it's fair across all states.

01:01:59.640 Well, FDR took that clause and brought it to his court and said, um, you know, we'd like you to make this stronger because, uh, people were selling wheat.

01:02:13.780 Farmers were selling, uh, wheat and doing their own trade.

01:02:18.460 And so what they said was, well, now, wait a minute, even if you bake your own bread and you grow your own wheat, even if you do that and bake your own bread and you're using it yourself, there are perhaps seeds that are coming across, uh, state lines for you to be able to replant.

01:02:40.760 Uh, there are other things that you might use that are pesticides that are coming and even just the pollination of your field going into another state allows the United States government to regulate.

01:02:54.880 So now everything is regulated by the United States government where it was very rare that states had, um, the federal government regulations and that changed everything.

01:03:08.540 This cake, uh, controversy could change everything in America because we have right now, we have had a rule of religious freedom and I can't be a, um, you know, I can't be a bigot and say, uh, I'm not serving any gay people, but when you're asked to for it, when you're asked to use your art,

01:03:37.520 whether that's a photographer or, uh, a, a, a baker that is using their art, my father used to, um, do wedding cakes on Saturdays, all he would do were wedding cakes.

01:03:54.660 And, uh, I know the hours and hours and hours that he spent and I know how he thought about the couple and he worked with the couple and he was part of it.

01:04:04.860 And he was excited to hear about how the couple's wedding went and how their reception was and what the response was with the cake because he poured his heart into it.

01:04:16.000 Well, that's using your talent and your skills and many bakers, some don't, but many bakers will think, well, I'm now participating in your wedding and my religion says that I shouldn't be doing that.

01:04:29.240 I'll sell you anything off the shelf. It's not a problem, but I can't participate in that. Now, not everybody who's religious feels that way, but some do.

01:04:39.320 How can the government force them to go against what they truly believe?

01:04:45.020 That's the question. And the problem with this is, is we used to be clear with conscientious objectors. You know, you couldn't, you know, people, when I have, when I have this argument with people and say, look, you know, I don't know what my dad would have done.

01:05:05.020 My dad might've made cakes. He might not have, I don't know, but my dad wasn't a real deeply religious person. He was a deeply spiritual person.

01:05:17.340 So how was he going to interpret that? I don't know, but a deeply religious person who goes to a church and they say, this is, this is what we believe.

01:05:28.760 You can't force them to do that. That's, that's like taking the Amish or, or what is it? Jehovah's witness also don't believe in armed conflict.

01:05:42.860 That's what they're taught in, in, in church. Our standard has always been, if that is truly your religion, you can't use it as an excuse.

01:05:53.540 But even if we find it deplorable for some reason, you got to serve or you don't have to serve.

01:06:01.620 And that included, that was up to and including using peyote, which is against the law.

01:06:07.180 Yes.

01:06:07.660 But, but Native Americans said that that was part of their religious belief and they won that case.

01:06:13.440 And look, and look at Hacksaw, not Hacksaw Ridge, uh, chains. Is it Hacksaw Ridge?

01:06:18.720 It is Hacksaw Ridge. Um, Hacksaw Ridge. That's the story in World War II where you're fighting Hitler and evil and a guy who lives in the Carolinas and believes that I, I can't, I'm, I was raised as a pacifist.

01:06:34.700 I cannot, um, kill, but I'll go and serve as a medic. And he was, he was brutalized in bootcamp for it. He becomes one of the greatest heroes in American history, but we didn't force him to do what was against his moral and, and religious, um, uh, framework.

01:06:57.700 We can't, or the first amendment means nothing. The travel ban.

01:07:05.980 Yeah, this is a big one in that, uh, they were, weren't sure if the Supreme court was going to take it. They are going to take that case. So I think it's going to be argued in October. Uh, and it's my initial reading of this. And a lot of these things are confusing because it's all legalistic language, but it seems like they are going to, uh, lift the injunction against the travel ban so that it can kind of go into effect until it's done.

01:07:27.700 It's decided, um, at least most of it would go into effect. So, and they're not hearing all of it, right? They're only hearing parts of it.

01:07:36.240 Yeah. And I know right for the injunction specifically, uh, only parts of it are going to be lifted. So it's not going to affect every single group. I, the details we're going to have to get into tomorrow because it's just kind of breaking as we speak. Although I would assume you'll be seeing this on a particular Twitter feed at some point today.

01:07:52.560 Yeah. Let's, let's, let's, you've seen as a, at least a short term victory.

01:07:56.040 Let's make sure that we, um, uh, talk to some really good attorneys, um, as we're preparing this for tomorrow. So we, we really get it right because, um, on the travel ban, you know, the real argument is, doesn't the president have a right to, isn't that part of his, his job description to keep us safe and to, um, uh, watch immigration.

01:08:21.040 Immigration. I mean, it's always been in the president's purview to be able to do this. And so let's, let's have somebody get real specific. So we know exactly, um, what they're hearing and what the, the problem is and what other people are saying.

01:08:35.980 So we'll, we'll, we'll have that tomorrow. Um, there's one other thing that I, I want to bring up the travel ban. It's interesting to me that he's doing the travel ban.

01:08:47.000 Um, when, when, when you look at this, Donald Trump is very good at, um, speaking the language of his tribe, the people who follow him and the travel ban is very important.

01:09:03.740 And not just, not just, not just to people who are looking at countries and saying, why are we letting people in that? We, we, we don't know if they're dangerous or not.

01:09:13.460 And until we find a way to actually screen people that makes common sense, maybe we should, maybe we should hold off here for a second. Um, but I think Donald Trump is upping this and he spoke volumes to his tribe.

01:09:30.860 Um, he has broken, this is the way this is written. Donald Trump breaks with tradition. White house forgoes Ramadan dinner. Did you read this?

01:09:42.380 No. The, the president and first lady Melania released a statement on Saturday, wishing warm greetings to those celebrating. Um, what is it? I yid or id?

01:09:54.160 I'd, uh, an important holiday marking the end of Ramadan Muslims in the United States. Join those around the world during a holy month of Ramadan to focus on acts of faith and charity. Now, as we, uh, commemorate I'd with family and friends, they carry on the tradition of helping neighbors and breaking bread with people from all walks of life.

01:10:13.700 Uh, this is the first time now, uh, in three presidents that we have not had a Ramadan dinner. So when you think of the white house is breaking tradition, you don't think of the tradition that was started by Clinton. I mean, breaking with tradition, that's three presidents have had a Ramadan dinner.

01:10:34.700 Now, a fourth president says no. So it's a new tradition. And I don't know how I feel about it. I don't.

01:10:43.200 And the LGBT LGBT community is doing the same thing on, uh, Trump's, uh, lack of releasing some sort of, um, I guess he, every year Obama released a press release for the gay pride parade. Trump didn't do that.

01:10:59.320 So he's breaking with tradition too. Tradition that started with the last president. It started with the last president. I mean, if you want to talk about this, come on, if you, if you really want to go there, then, uh, then Barack Obama, he didn't, but he was claiming he was going to break tradition of starting wars in foreign lands.

01:11:20.280 Because that's what the last president did. Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's funny. This exact same way they're tweeting or they're treating the healthcare issue, which is the only thing that we should measure this on is the current, very recently implemented failing program.

01:11:35.680 That is the only fair standard to even look at. It's not, we don't look at what we had before 2008 or the century before that. We can only look at what we have right now, which was implemented that was forced through and incredibly unpopular to the entire time failing miserably failing miserably.

01:11:53.080 Look, look, here's the thing. Here's, here's the case that we need to make as conservatives over and over again, because, um, we have to speak the language of the left and argue where the argument is and where the argument is on healthcare is, um, care. And I care. I want to make sure that people are not suffering.

01:12:13.400 I want to make sure that we take care of the people who can't afford it. I want to make sure that there is healthcare available for everybody. And I don't want somebody on the streets dying of cancer. Well, let me just say this. The regulations are so uncaring. The regulations are, are so inhuman.

01:12:35.040 And beyond that, I care about all of the families. Now we have taken a group of people who were suffering and not really done much for them. And then we've made the rest of the country suffer with 140% increase in their premiums.

01:12:54.480 This is, this is, if we would have sold this as care, you got to care, but it's going to cost you 140% more. We all would have said, no, we have to change the argument and we have to say, let's care for the people who are in Ohio. Let's care for the people, the moms and dads who are not on the poverty line. This cannot afford 140% increase. It's unreasonable.

01:13:20.380 Now this stock market is booming. Why? I believe that's inflation. The people who have the money are chasing too few goods on the stock market. What's your gut say that this is going to go to 30,000 or it's more likely to go to 15,000 or maybe 10. Jim Rogers says within two years, the world is going to experience the biggest market crash since the great depression.

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01:14:45.520 I think last time Brad Thor was on, I think we almost threw him off the air.

01:14:51.540 I think so.

01:14:52.420 The guy is, I mean, he's not shy. He joins us next.

01:14:59.020 The Glenn Beck Program.

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01:15:24.920 Hello, America.

01:15:26.340 Welcome to the program.

01:15:27.360 So glad that you are here.

01:15:29.680 Oh, there's still a lot to cover.

01:15:32.460 North Korea used drugs to torture the 20-something-year-old in Cincinnati, Ohio.

01:15:41.540 He was drugged and tortured to death.

01:15:46.960 Now, how are we going to respond?

01:15:50.000 Also, more people are stirring the fire.

01:15:52.580 Bill Nye, the science guy, one of his writers on his Netflix show, tweeted something horrible.

01:16:00.360 Try this. 0.97

01:16:00.920 If a few old-ass conservative white men have to die in order to get this gun control issue discussed, that's just a price. 0.99

01:16:12.740 That's just a risk I'm willing to take. 0.99

01:16:17.860 Excuse me?

01:16:20.100 When somebody from The Blaze, Michael Opelka, when Michael Opelka tweeted her and said,

01:16:25.600 listen to this, how do you define old?

01:16:31.180 She knew she was going to be in trouble and she removed the tweet.

01:16:35.500 This is Bill Nye, the science guy's writer.

01:16:39.440 We'll get into that here in a second.

01:16:41.380 Also, witches are casting disturbing binding spells against Donald Trump as part of the, quote, resistance.

01:16:49.860 We'll talk about that.

01:16:51.040 That's a story on TheBlaze.com and GlennBeck.com as well.

01:16:55.600 We'll get to that.

01:16:56.520 But first, the one, the only, the never-controversial, Brad Thor.

01:17:02.280 Right now.

01:17:03.500 I will make a stand.

01:17:06.220 I will raise my voice.

01:17:08.480 I will hold your hand.

01:17:10.840 Because we are one.

01:17:12.700 I will beat my drum.

01:17:14.960 I have made my choice.

01:17:17.200 We will overcome.

01:17:19.520 Because we are one.

01:17:21.620 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:17:24.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:30.280 Brad Thor is going to be joining us here in just a second.

01:17:32.860 I thought he was on tomorrow's show.

01:17:34.980 Are we sure he's on today?

01:17:36.680 I was hoping it was tomorrow because I haven't finished his book.

01:17:39.700 And I read like half of it.

01:17:42.280 I took it someplace with me while I was in the great outdoors.

01:17:48.200 And I must have dropped it someplace in the middle of the ranch someplace.

01:17:55.200 So the cows are reading something really great.

01:17:57.900 It's a great book.

01:17:59.260 The first half is really good. 0.85

01:18:00.960 Could suck the second half.

01:18:02.180 I don't know. 0.97

01:18:02.560 But the first half is tremendous.

01:18:04.820 And let's be honest.

01:18:05.300 It's really up to Brad Thor to supply a book to each one of your locations.

01:18:09.700 So he really is.

01:18:10.540 Isn't it though?

01:18:10.780 I mean, what's he doing?

01:18:12.020 He obviously doesn't care of it.

01:18:13.380 I tried to find a bookstore.

01:18:16.760 Impossible.

01:18:17.700 I tried in two states.

01:18:19.220 I tried in Idaho.

01:18:20.480 And I tried in Montana.

01:18:22.900 And I couldn't find a bookstore.

01:18:24.820 And then I realized that the book wasn't out yet.

01:18:27.920 It comes out tomorrow.

01:18:28.820 So I couldn't have bought it anyway, even if I found a bookstore.

01:18:33.760 I should have probably checked that first.

01:18:37.240 Should we go into, as we wait for Brad Thor, should we go into the witches that are now casting spells on Donald Trump?

01:18:47.180 I don't know where to go with this story.

01:18:50.220 On Donald and all those who abet him.

01:18:53.600 So it's not just Donald Trump.

01:18:55.680 So here it is.

01:18:56.320 Large Facebook group composed of self-described witches cast spells to bind President Trump and all those who abet him.

01:19:04.600 On Wednesday, you know, abet is a word I haven't really seen around since maybe 1626.

01:19:12.360 On Wednesday, a large Facebook group composed of the self-described witches began to cast the spells.

01:19:19.260 The group, which calls itself Bind Trump, has more than 2,000 members.

01:19:24.160 Although it's unclear exactly how many participated in the event, on the night of the alleged binding ceremony, dozens posted pictures and videos of their anti-Trump rituals.

01:19:34.600 We have got to see the videos.

01:19:38.100 They've been doing this since March.

01:19:39.820 Can you get us the audio of that?

01:19:41.700 And maybe, Stu, could you look in to a, perhaps a warlock?

01:19:48.920 It wasn't Bill Rogers.

01:19:50.260 Do you guys remember Bill Rogers?

01:19:52.060 He used to be on the show a long time ago.

01:19:53.840 Let's see, because I believe he was some sort of a warlock or something. 0.66

01:19:57.680 Maybe we get him on to unbind the spells tomorrow.

01:20:01.560 So, according to the witches, too, a binding spell is different than a curse or a hex.

01:20:10.740 So, I don't know.

01:20:11.500 Well, you would know, Jeffy.

01:20:13.680 What is a binding spell?

01:20:16.280 I don't quite know the difference.

01:20:18.260 I'm just saying that's what the witches have said.

01:20:19.900 Okay, so here, the witches event was scheduled to correspond with the waning crescent moon, and the group's members used a organized liturgy to wish evil on Trump's agenda.

01:20:32.900 The participants were instructed to gather a number of components to aid them in their efforts, including a tarot card reader, an unflattering picture of Donald Trump.

01:20:42.560 I don't know, why can't you use a nice picture of Donald Trump?

01:20:45.080 Is the queen of all witches up in heaven going, I mean, I'm sorry, I don't mean to insult witches.

01:20:52.380 I don't know what your practice is exactly, but do they're like, no, it's got to be an unflattering picture.

01:20:59.600 This one makes me feel good.

01:21:02.780 They're supposed to have candles, a small bowl of water, an ashtray, or a dish of sand, and a feather.

01:21:10.840 Now, it sounds like something that you shouldn't take seriously, but have I ever struck you as the guy that doesn't take stuff like this seriously?

01:21:28.220 No.

01:21:28.720 No.

01:21:29.340 No.

01:21:30.040 No.

01:21:30.260 They were instructed to call on spirits and demons of the infernal realms to bind Trump so that his malignant works may fail utterly.

01:21:42.080 They want to prevent him from harming humans, trees, animals, and, quote, rocks from harm.

01:21:52.140 Now, I'm glad somebody has finally brought this up, but the amount of rocks that this administration has harmed is...

01:22:03.060 It's well into the millions already.

01:22:04.500 And it's untold.

01:22:05.700 Millions of rocks have been harmed.

01:22:06.560 It's an untold, sad, sad tale of how some rocks are pried from their family in what we haphazardly have just named gravel pits, and their family members are ripped and sent to other driveways, sometimes halfway across the country, for those rock families never to be united again.

01:22:35.100 And who's responsible for this?

01:22:38.180 Donald Trump.

01:22:39.220 He's a builder.

01:22:40.220 Donald Trump.

01:22:40.960 How much gravel has he used in his life?

01:22:44.320 The harm of the rock families must stop.

01:22:49.640 Must stop.

01:22:50.700 Sometimes he grinds stones into smaller stones.

01:22:54.740 It's happened, yeah.

01:22:56.060 Yeah, it's happened.

01:22:57.940 Imagine if somebody took your children and ground them up into smaller children.

01:23:02.660 Would you be happy?

01:23:03.560 No, I wouldn't.

01:23:05.160 If they took your family and ground your family up...

01:23:06.680 I really don't know that rocks have children or families.

01:23:10.020 And sprinkled them...

01:23:11.240 Please, Pat, stop with the denials.

01:23:15.440 And they took and ground your children up and then sprinkled them in some driveway? 0.96

01:23:20.640 Your kids were what the Prius tires were driving on here in California?

01:23:28.400 No.

01:23:28.940 No.

01:23:29.600 You wouldn't be happy.

01:23:30.340 The witches also condemned those who enabled Trump's wickedness.

01:23:35.820 They need to have their towers of vanity struck down. 0.96

01:23:38.940 That's the only thing that actually makes sense to me is strike down the towers of vanity.

01:23:44.660 Afterward, the witches were instructed, ground yourself by having a good hearty laugh. 0.88

01:23:53.080 Jump up and down.

01:23:54.200 Clap your hands.

01:23:55.020 Stomp your feet.

01:23:55.940 Have a bite to eat.

01:23:57.240 Grounding is very important.

01:23:58.460 Don't neglect it.

01:23:59.620 And remember, he hates people laughing at him.

01:24:02.560 According to Daniel Asor, who's a rabbi in Israel, he said people should not take these kinds of ceremonies lightly.

01:24:11.120 He said witchcraft or its real name, Satanism, is explicitly a power struggle, which is why it's so readily dragged into politics.

01:24:20.540 Satanism, in its essence, pits the adversary against God.

01:24:24.420 Even if you're a good witch? 0.92

01:24:26.860 There are no good witches. 0.99

01:24:27.840 Glinda, did you see Wicked?

01:24:30.920 Glinda was not a good witch. 1.00

01:24:32.880 That is a true live documentary that is happening in New York, of all places.

01:24:40.100 They've decided to expose the truth about that so-called good witch.

01:24:45.000 What about Bewitched?

01:24:46.580 She doesn't seem like generally a good witch. 0.99

01:24:48.280 And what happened to her?

01:24:49.160 I don't know.

01:24:49.940 Dead.

01:24:50.760 Is she?

01:24:51.580 Yeah.

01:24:51.900 What happened to her husband?

01:24:53.780 Her first husband, that we all know, suddenly changed features?

01:25:00.340 All of a sudden, Dagwood or Darewood or whatever his name was, remember?

01:25:06.020 All of a sudden, he looked one way, and then we were all supposed to notice she hadn't fundamentally changed him.

01:25:12.560 She killed him and replaced him, and the spell didn't work on me.

01:25:17.320 I knew it was a different guy. 0.99

01:25:20.240 She's evil. 1.00

01:25:21.060 You really do go deep.

01:25:23.040 These are deep dives.

01:25:24.980 Like I said, not a lot of people are giving you this kind of analysis on the witch thing.

01:25:30.020 I actually agree with the rabbi.

01:25:33.340 I don't take this lightly at all.

01:25:36.600 I mean, I don't know how many of the 2,000 people are serious.

01:25:40.320 This is kind of like the, what is it, the secret grove or what is that place called in California?

01:25:47.660 Bohemian Grove.

01:25:48.100 Oh, Bohemian Grove, yeah.

01:25:49.640 The Bohemian Grove.

01:25:50.660 I don't think, you know, I wrote about it in my book, The Eye of Moloch, and it's a fiction novel.

01:25:58.140 Better than Brad Thor's, I think, quite honestly.

01:26:00.360 And, in fact, I could do an interview about that now if you'd like.

01:26:05.280 But I wrote about it in my book, The Eye of Moloch.

01:26:09.700 And I explained how I believe some of this stuff works, but I did it in a, you know, a fiction sort of setting.

01:26:18.740 And, you know, the Bohemian Grove does exist.

01:26:21.320 And all of these people do come from all over the world, all these high leaders.

01:26:25.300 And they do apparently do this old owl thing where they, you know, set it on fire or set a little boat on fire with little people in it.

01:26:36.040 No actual little people were harmed.

01:26:39.280 And there's these little figures that they put in it.

01:26:41.720 And then they, I don't know, set them on fire and throw them in the belly of the owl or something weird.

01:26:45.700 I don't think anybody there takes that seriously.

01:26:51.200 Maybe a couple of people.

01:26:53.360 There might be, I don't know, a thousand people there.

01:26:55.340 Maybe two really understand that that is an ancient ritual and take it seriously.

01:27:01.820 The rest are just having a party.

01:27:03.820 And they're just, oh, this is funny.

01:27:05.240 Oh, there's nothing to this.

01:27:07.480 They don't have any intention.

01:27:09.160 They don't even know what it means.

01:27:10.540 They don't care.

01:27:12.220 But they are performing an ancient ritual.

01:27:14.640 And the same, I believe, with the witches.

01:27:18.160 You know, I'm not a witch hunter.

01:27:20.780 I don't, you know, I'm sure there are good witches. 0.99

01:27:23.200 I'm sure there are people that are, you know, just witches and they just care about the environment and whatever witches do.

01:27:29.140 They don't fly on broomsticks or any of that nonsense.

01:27:33.420 But I do believe things like this, you are performing ancient pagan rituals.

01:27:42.880 That I do believe do play into the adversary, do play into darkness.

01:27:49.560 And I don't think we should take these things lightly.

01:27:53.680 Although, I don't think Donald Trump at any point is going to be bound or turn into a newt.

01:28:02.740 But that's just me.

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01:28:08.320 Friday, North Korea made its first statement since the death of Otto Warmbier.

01:28:13.860 Quote, to make clear, we are the biggest victim of this incident.

01:28:19.240 Now, we're going to get into this later, but they use drugs. 0.83

01:28:23.880 This is the latest from this is from Fox News.

01:28:26.860 Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer believes North Korea's repeated use of drugs killed the American student.

01:28:34.500 Quote, he was tortured, not so much the way, pulling fingernails out with tools, but repeated drugging, sodium pentothal.

01:28:44.560 Schaefer told the Fox Business Network, the retired U.S. general said North Korea was trying to figure out whether Warmbier was a CIA spy

01:28:53.640 and repeated exposure to drugs during that year in captivity is what caused brain damage.

01:28:59.020 I think during his confinement, they overdid it and thought, uh-oh, we better release him.

01:29:06.120 No doubt, they kind of saw that the things that they were doing were going tragically wrong.

01:29:13.320 We better get this guy out of here.

01:29:15.440 And so it served their purpose to get him out.

01:29:18.540 So now, how does the president respond to this?

01:29:21.860 You can't have an American citizen tortured and killed by North Korea.

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01:30:59.080 I will make a stand.

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01:31:22.960 So we had Brad on the phone.

01:31:24.280 And then my very efficient staff said, let's do tomorrow.

01:31:31.000 No, no, no, no.

01:31:32.200 I really wanted to give him hell for being late.

01:31:35.200 I mean, when you're on the Jimmy Kimmel show, how many times does it happen halfway through the time when you were supposed to be on?

01:31:42.400 Jimmy is just ad-libbing about something he doesn't know anything about, just stalling until the guest finally stumbles out from behind the curtain and is like, oh, hey, sorry, I missed half the interview time.

01:31:54.660 It happens all the time.

01:31:56.260 And Brad Thor just stumbled out from behind the curtain about five minutes ago and was like, oh, sorry, I was doing something.

01:32:05.280 And so tomorrow we'll make sure to give him a very fair and gentle airing as he joins us on tomorrow's program.

01:32:15.280 So he'll get the respect he deserves, I think, is the way what you're trying to say.

01:32:18.660 Oh, my gosh.

01:32:19.240 I thought, I mean, if he was smart, he would have come on and said, well, you only read half of my book and and then lost it.

01:32:26.460 So I lost your phone number and I thought I could just do half of the interview.

01:32:30.700 Don't give him the outs on the air.

01:32:32.340 No, now that I just did, that won't work.

01:32:35.280 That won't work.

01:32:37.040 But it should be very interesting to have him on tomorrow talking about his new book, which somehow or another I've misplaced.

01:32:46.300 Brad Thor on tomorrow's program.

01:32:48.720 OK, I want to read this tweet to you. 0.99

01:32:52.800 If a few old ass conservative white men have to die in order to get this gun control issue discussed, then I'm willing to take that risk. 0.99

01:33:02.360 This is from a woman who says she's a comedy writer and you can see it's so funny. 0.99

01:33:10.620 She's a comedy writer for Bill Nye, the science guy.

01:33:14.940 Oh, and if you've ever seen that show or a clip of that show, you know just how funny it is.

01:33:21.320 It's hysterical.

01:33:22.360 I didn't know.

01:33:25.620 Didn't know.

01:33:26.300 Do you still have the song that they did?

01:33:28.020 Remember the song on what was it on gender or something that had nothing to do with science at all?

01:33:34.880 Uh, and, uh, really had very little to do with comedy and music, which was very difficult for a comedy song about gender.

01:33:44.240 Uh, you know, having a song that didn't have anything to do with music, comedy, or gender, um, or at least science.

01:33:50.540 Um, she has, she has taken this tweet down, uh, but the best tweet of the weekend has to come from Steve, uh, days.

01:34:03.660 Steve writes, if you thought 2016 was bad, how about a 2018 election between a party embracing cultural Marxism and one that broke a nine year promise to voters?

01:34:17.720 Hmm.

01:34:19.400 It's going to be, it's going to be ugly.

01:34:21.440 I guess there's nobody to root for in these situations anymore.

01:34:25.080 So it's so true too. 0.98

01:34:26.520 I mean, who do you root for in that scenario?

01:34:29.120 I don't know.

01:34:29.960 I mean, certainly not the cultural Marxists, but then on the other hand, you vote for these guys and they don't do anything they said they were going to do.

01:34:37.740 So it's a game.

01:34:39.360 You're watching a game with two teams you don't care about.

01:34:41.800 I mean, you might, you might wind up having a little bit of a rooting interest in certain parts of it or whatever,

01:34:45.700 but it's, it's, it's hard to have passion over this.

01:34:48.060 So somebody wrote to me this weekend, um, who you guys know, um, who said, I'm thinking about running and, um, and, uh, I don't know what a run as, uh, I could run as GOP, could run as an independent or could run as a libertarian.

01:35:05.880 And I'm not sure because all of them, uh, have, have really not stood for what they were supposedly standing for.

01:35:16.000 I don't know how to run.

01:35:18.180 If I am going to run, I'll give you my answer when we come back.

01:35:22.880 Hello from Los Angeles, California and, uh, thrilled to be here.

01:35:46.040 Um, it was nice about, uh, two o'clock in the morning to be able to have the windows open and to be able to hear the gunshots, um, that were just about three, four blocks away, which I thought was very nice.

01:35:57.900 That's a nice touch.

01:35:58.980 It was nice.

01:35:59.760 It was, it was a little confusing because, um, I said, that's gunshot.

01:36:03.400 And my wife said, uh, no guns are illegal in California. 0.98

01:36:07.420 And I said, you are right, sweetheart, you are right.

01:36:11.200 That must've been people outside at night going bang, uh, that we heard, uh, or a, a backfiring of 15 to 20 cars, uh, which was really exciting because guns not legal.

01:36:29.200 So, um, uh, a couple of things going on.

01:36:34.260 The gay pride parade, uh, continues to be more of a Trump resistant parade than a pride parade.

01:36:43.240 Uh, if you saw one, uh, anywhere around you, um, or you happen to attend one, you might've thought, wow, this seems kind of angry against Donald Trump.

01:36:53.320 The most gay friendly president of all time.

01:36:57.860 Yeah.

01:36:58.520 At least when taking office, that's there, there's no doubt about that.

01:37:02.920 Uh, yeah, I think no, I, the only one who's ever been elected on a platform of being okay with same sex marriage.

01:37:12.180 Those are just words.

01:37:14.000 And, and this is what really, yeah, this is what really bothers me.

01:37:17.460 No, you know, that Barack Obama was a pro gay marriage.

01:37:22.080 You know that he was, but he didn't have the, uh, fortitude to actually say it.

01:37:28.500 He didn't have the moral, the moral underpinning.

01:37:32.180 In fact, he said in, I think 2008 or 2006, it was in there somewhere that because he's a Christian, he believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

01:37:41.420 In 2008, Donald Trump has not had that position.

01:37:45.100 I don't think ever.

01:37:46.020 I, not that I know of.

01:37:47.360 Yeah.

01:37:47.680 And so he has been consistent and a, a leading guy on this.

01:37:53.640 Barack Obama lied to become president.

01:37:57.320 He sold his people out.

01:38:00.260 Yeah.

01:38:00.720 The people who believed in him sold them out so he could become president.

01:38:04.560 Same with Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:38:06.080 Yes.

01:38:06.380 She did the same thing.

01:38:07.760 Same with all of them on the left in, and I shouldn't say all of the, all of the politicians on the left where Donald Trump has always been there, has always been, uh, gay friendly. 0.85

01:38:21.580 If you will, if you, but I hate that phrase, uh, but he has always been gay friendly.

01:38:27.280 It think of this, Barack Obama didn't have the guts to say at the DNC convention that he was, uh, gay friendly instead, you know, marriages between man and a woman at the convention, Donald Trump, that's the democratic convention.

01:38:46.160 Donald Trump goes to the Republican convention and says that he supports gay marriage and yada, yada, yada.

01:38:56.340 And the Republicans cheer.

01:38:58.940 He's surprised by it and says, thank you.

01:39:03.340 That means an awful lot.

01:39:04.420 Yet they're protesting him.

01:39:06.360 Are you kidding me?

01:39:08.660 Strange.

01:39:09.180 And, and I think, you know, initially he was okay with the, with the, uh, transgender thing going, transgenders going to whatever bathroom they wanted to.

01:39:19.500 Uh, he said that all Trump places would be transgender friendly.

01:39:23.160 But then he, he removed the restriction of federal funds going to school districts in California, uh, for, for them to, uh, be able to go into whatever bathroom they wanted to, because it's a school.

01:39:37.360 It's a, can't we, yeah.

01:39:38.620 Can't, can't we just slow down?

01:39:41.000 This is what all the comedians, all the lefty comedians are saying.

01:39:44.020 You're overplaying your hand.

01:39:45.300 Can't we just slow down a little bit just to have some data behind us?

01:39:50.780 And the answer is no.

01:39:51.620 Just to know what this means.

01:39:52.680 No.

01:39:53.100 Well, but this is, this, I mean, if you have a Republican that is Donald Trump, I mean, this is a huge, a huge win.

01:39:58.360 If, if essentially the opposition to the, uh, the LGBT activist is Donald Trump, like me, has he backed off slightly on a couple of minor parts of Obama's agenda?

01:40:10.940 I mean, you can maybe argue that, but I mean, it's not, it's not a strong argument.

01:40:14.720 And that's why you're seeing there's a poll that came out today from Pew, uh, that showed the, uh, support for same sex marriage.

01:40:20.720 Um, and I was looking at, I was like, wow, you can see the kind of meteoric, meteoric rise, uh, of support, of support for it, which is kind of well-documented.

01:40:29.180 However, I didn't, I hadn't looked down at the bottom of the, of the, uh, poll when I first looked at it, the graph, which shows the timeline, which is just since 2007.

01:40:38.740 So that's, it's gone from 37 to 62.

01:40:42.600 Now, 62% support in, in, in just 10 years.

01:40:46.440 Um, and that goes from across every, uh, age group, across every party, across every race.

01:40:52.780 Um, I mean, you know, every, there's religious groups have all increased as well.

01:40:57.620 Uh, it really is, uh, I mean, meteoric, the rise.

01:41:01.800 I'm, I'm really trying to study, um, how the, the human brain, uh, works.

01:41:07.440 And Jonathan, uh, hate, uh, wrote this, or height, wrote this book called, um, uh, the righteous mind.

01:41:14.900 And in it, he talks about how the mind works, but it's like an elephant and a rider.

01:41:20.860 And this is an, this is an old theory.

01:41:24.260 He just, uh, moves it forward, uh, some.

01:41:27.740 Um, but I was reading another book.

01:41:29.980 I kept trying to remember which one it was, where it talks about the elephant and the rider.

01:41:34.400 And this is something that we really need to know as conservatives, because we're speaking the wrong language.

01:41:41.900 And we keep losing and we keep saying, well, our arguments are better, but the argument doesn't matter.

01:41:48.860 And I know everybody wants to say, well, yes, it does.

01:41:52.800 But I just want to remind you that it doesn't matter what you feel.

01:41:57.860 It matters what the facts are.

01:42:00.040 And the facts are that the left and the right speak a different language.

01:42:05.320 And because of this, we don't hear each other.

01:42:09.900 And so it's like a missionary going, you know, to the Amazon or going to Mexico City and wanting to convert people and wanted to help people.

01:42:18.620 But I refuse to speak Spanish.

01:42:22.280 Well, you're not going to make an impact.

01:42:24.280 What you're going to do is you're going to just start shouting at people going, no, it's Jesus.

01:42:30.680 Oh, Jesus, he's right here.

01:42:33.860 No, Jesus.

01:42:36.140 And they don't understand.

01:42:37.900 And then what? 1.00

01:42:38.540 You walk around and go, these people are just dumb. 1.00

01:42:40.780 They're stupid. 1.00

01:42:41.720 They don't know what's best for them. 1.00

01:42:43.320 You're speaking the wrong language. 1.00

01:42:45.500 And it's harder to see because we're both speaking English.

01:42:49.220 language, but the writer, this is now, listen, if you really understand this, you'll understand there are so many levels of the language that we have to discuss.

01:43:01.320 But the most basic is the elephant and the writer.

01:43:04.680 The elephant is your gut.

01:43:07.080 The elephant is your first reaction, your first impression.

01:43:11.380 You know, they say, you know, there's nothing like a first impression.

01:43:14.360 It's true.

01:43:15.820 Your first impression of a person lays the foundation and the cornerstones of your gut of what you're going to think about that person.

01:43:25.940 And it's very hard to change it.

01:43:28.040 It can be changed, but it's very hard to change it.

01:43:32.900 And believe me, I know because I've seen this happen in my own life.

01:43:38.200 So what you have to do is you have to understand that the elephant is the emotion center of a human and it's your gut, it's fear, it's love, it's hope, it's all these emotions that you feel.

01:43:57.200 The writer is reason.

01:43:58.980 And just like a writer on an elephant, you know, with a rope between his, you know, teeth, you can try to steer that elephant.

01:44:09.980 But if the emotion was so ingrained in this elephant, if it's already had its first impression, its third impression and all of the emotions, you're not going to change its mind.

01:44:25.720 So now, what happens?

01:44:28.820 I know that when my daughter was in college, she went to Fordham University and they taught her at a Catholic university that the Bible was false, that sodomy was just a greeting.

01:44:43.820 It had nothing to do, literally, nothing to do with sex.

01:44:47.500 It was just the way people greeted each other back in the old days.

01:44:51.460 What?

01:44:51.720 What?

01:44:52.560 What?

01:44:53.340 Wait.

01:44:53.820 Oh, yeah.

01:44:54.400 No, no, no.

01:44:54.780 Well, that's not possible.

01:44:56.300 That is not.

01:44:57.280 Yes, it is.

01:44:57.820 She misunderstood what was being taught in class.

01:45:00.720 No, she didn't.

01:45:01.360 I mean, come on.

01:45:02.360 No, she didn't.

01:45:03.160 It was not like it is now.

01:45:06.160 That's what it was.

01:45:07.520 And so. 0.96

01:45:07.960 So a sex act was just, hey, hi. 0.99

01:45:10.180 How you doing? 0.96

01:45:10.740 It's why they were going after the visitors.

01:45:13.240 It's why.

01:45:13.680 That's what she was taught.

01:45:14.600 Just trying to say hello.

01:45:15.980 Come on out and say hi to us.

01:45:17.520 I could be a professor at this school.

01:45:19.580 How about that?

01:45:20.400 Okay.

01:45:20.840 So anyway, so she had that foundation put into her and she was, the peer pressure was, if 0.98

01:45:32.280 you're against gay marriage, you are, you hate people. 0.95

01:45:37.120 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:37.220 You're a bigot and a homophobe. 1.00

01:45:38.400 You're a bigot. 1.00

01:45:38.740 And it was overwhelming in New York. 0.97

01:45:42.080 It was overwhelming.

01:45:43.520 And I have absolutely no record of ever hating any gay person.

01:45:48.700 None.

01:45:49.300 I have many gay friends that I, I love them.

01:45:54.260 I don't, that's your life.

01:45:56.300 My life is my life.

01:45:57.240 Your life is your life.

01:45:58.600 You may not agree with everything that I do and believe in my life, and I don't have to

01:46:02.740 agree or do what everything you do in your life.

01:46:05.700 You're not looking for my approval.

01:46:07.040 We're friends.

01:46:08.740 Um, but the peer pressure was so strong.

01:46:12.600 There's nothing I could say to change it.

01:46:16.380 Um, ever.

01:46:18.360 There was no reason that could break through.

01:46:20.400 And all I kept saying was, honey, that's not who I am.

01:46:23.940 You know, that's not who I am.

01:46:25.500 And because that conflict, I think was so deep in her that we couldn't even talk about it.

01:46:31.340 She wouldn't talk about it until she started to see, wait a minute.

01:46:35.440 Now that it's passed, now people are trying to force people to, you know, accept that in

01:46:42.540 their church and their, and it's not, it's not about just let's leave everybody alone.

01:46:47.240 And why do you hate so much?

01:46:48.440 It really is about forcing an agenda on somebody else.

01:46:53.160 That took years, and I couldn't solve it.

01:46:58.720 Um, and I didn't know how to solve it.

01:47:00.700 But here's the thing.

01:47:02.540 If we don't understand that emotions play the biggest role and emotional stories, and especially

01:47:14.220 when it comes to, uh, you know, when it comes to the question of gay marriage, love wins.

01:47:19.840 And that's true.

01:47:21.620 Love conquers all.

01:47:24.120 And that's the way they framed it.

01:47:25.860 And so you can't talk about anything else except love, because that's the overriding, most powerful

01:47:34.000 emotion you can find.

01:47:35.840 And the elephant is already on the road, and no amount of reason will pull it off.

01:47:41.120 We have to look at the questions that we're debating now and understand that unless you speak

01:47:50.440 the language of the left, which is generally care and harm, uh, oppression, if you can't

01:48:00.280 speak about a subject, you want to talk about, um, uh, abortion, don't talk about the sanctity

01:48:08.720 of life.

01:48:09.240 They're not, they don't think that way.

01:48:11.560 And I'm not saying this is a bad thing.

01:48:14.780 Uh, just like we don't think of abortion as oppression of women, they do. 1.00

01:48:21.900 That doesn't make them bad or us bad.

01:48:25.140 It just is.

01:48:26.500 It's Spanish and English.

01:48:28.540 And unless we can start making our arguments about care and about oppression, we are not

01:48:38.700 able to win.

01:48:41.260 That's why we keep, we keep saying we have the best arguments.

01:48:44.960 We're making them in a different language and arguments appeal to the writer.

01:48:51.160 We have to appeal to the elephant.

01:48:53.720 Boy, without context, this monologue makes absolutely no sense.

01:48:58.880 Yeah.

01:48:59.760 If you just tuned in here, wait, I have to appeal to the elephant.

01:49:04.500 I was glad that they were banned from the circus.

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01:50:17.060 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:50:18.760 Do you guys see what happened with Transformers this weekend?

01:50:24.540 The number one movie in the country?

01:50:26.040 Yeah, it didn't do well here.

01:50:27.240 I mean, comparatively speaking.

01:50:29.980 In China, it was gigantic.

01:50:32.600 Yeah.

01:50:33.560 Double what it was here.

01:50:35.480 Yeah.

01:50:37.240 Now, has anybody seen it yet?

01:50:39.100 Yeah.

01:50:40.940 Jeffy has.

01:50:41.820 I enjoyed it.

01:50:43.320 I have not seen it, although I'm intrigued because of the historical element you were talking

01:50:47.800 about.

01:50:48.100 That sounds kind of fun.

01:50:48.860 What's the opposite of intrigued?

01:50:50.480 That's not.

01:50:51.220 Well, you don't like any of these.

01:50:52.980 I like the first Transformers.

01:50:54.540 I thought it was all right.

01:50:55.280 So, the Transformers, here's my real deal in Transformers.

01:50:59.700 I can't take, because I have a 13-year-old son who I'm trying to, I can't take the Transformers

01:51:06.700 with the woman sitting on the motorcycle and revving the engine, and she's like, oh, yeah, 0.91

01:51:11.980 I can't take it.

01:51:12.880 Are they doing that in this one, too?

01:51:14.320 Boy, Glenn, do I know what you're talking about.

01:51:15.640 No, they don't do that.

01:51:16.780 They don't do that.

01:51:17.660 So, there's one reason, as a dad, not as a man or a boy, I mean, a 13-year-old boy in

01:51:25.380 me always loves that, but as a dad, no, please.

01:51:31.360 And so, it's been hard for me to be able to take Rafe and go, hey, this is a fun movie

01:51:37.500 because I, you know, anyway.

01:51:38.760 Um, uh, the historic element in it, I think, was fun.

01:51:43.820 And if you go into it as a Transformer movie, you're like, oh, this is kind of fun.

01:51:48.940 Now, you go into it as an adult and you see that it says Dark Universe, it's the new universal 1.00

01:51:54.940 thing, and you know they're trying to make all these movies with, you know, the mummy

01:52:00.840 and all of these things.

01:52:02.040 It, you understand what they're doing, and they're doing exactly what DC Comics is doing. 1.00

01:52:08.040 Trying to jam everything in to, into one thing, and it just is, it was stupid. 0.99

01:52:16.500 It was just stupid to, uh, wait a minute, I'm confusing movies. 0.99

01:52:20.260 Wow, I just conflated two movies together. 0.85

01:52:24.480 Sorry about that.

01:52:25.740 I'll, uh, I'll reset and give it to you tomorrow.

01:52:28.560 It was an okay movie.

01:52:29.840 What is this?

01:52:32.180 The Grubb Bank Program.

01:52:34.780 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 26, 2017

6⧸26⧸17 - Will America ever be how we knew it？ (Riaz Patel Joins Glenn)

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