Sen. Mike Lee takes a look at why Trumpcare is not better. Bill Nye has a new book, and Seattle's minimum wage is not working, according to the University of Washington, and Stephen Hawking says we should all get off the planet.
00:02:38.300It props up Obamacare through the next election.
00:02:41.300It lays out plans to slow Medicaid spending beginning in 2025, which probably won't happen.
00:02:47.600And it leaves in place the ham-fisted federal regulations that have driven up family health insurance premiums by 140% since Obamacare was implemented.
00:03:00.800I just want to spend a second on that.
00:03:03.740Have you heard the media or anybody actually quote that statistic?
00:03:12.240We all know that our health care insurance premiums has gone through the roof.
00:03:51.760As the bill is currently drafted, writes Mike Lee, I won't vote for it.
00:03:58.640On the other hand, I understand the opportunity Republicans have right now to help Americans get better, more affordable coverage.
00:04:06.320That's why I joined the Senate working group on health care reform with an open mind.
00:04:11.940I knew then, as I know now, that as one of the most conservative Republican senators, I would have to compromise with the least conservative Republican senators to get something done.
00:05:06.860But the Republicans have just reneged on nine years of promises to the American people.
00:05:13.920And if it has gone up 141 percent and we know that it's collapsing on itself, what do you think it's going to be like in three or four years?
00:05:45.000So then I advocated repealing Obamacare's regulations, which have been the primary drivers of spiking premiums.
00:05:52.880I repeated this suggestion at every single meeting of the working group and at every member's lunch for several weeks.
00:06:00.560Yet, when the Better Care Reconciliation Act was unveiled yesterday, the core of Obamacare regulations were largely untouched.
00:06:09.820Remember, it's the regulations that made it go up 141 percent.
00:06:14.580Far short of repeal, the Senate bill keeps the Democrats' broken system intact, just with left spending on the poor to pay for corporate bailouts and tax cuts.
00:06:25.720Boy, how do you think they're going to fare in 2020 with just that fact?
00:06:30.560With just the fact that they did get tax cuts and they reduced things on the poor, but they gave those reductions, not to the American people, but they gave them to wealthy corporations.
00:06:48.600Yet, for all of that, I have not closed the door on voting on some version of this in the end.
00:06:55.340Conservatives have compromised on not repealing, on spending levels, tax cuts, subsidies, corporate bailouts, Medicaid, and the Obamacare regulations.
00:07:08.420That is, on every substantive question in the bill.
00:07:12.980I have conceded to my moderate colleagues on all of the above.
00:07:18.720Now, I only ask that the bill be amended to include an opt-out provision for states or even just for individuals.
00:07:27.820The reasons Americans are divided about health care, like so many issues today, is that we don't know exactly how to fix it.
00:07:40.760And history teaches us that when we don't know how to solve a problem, the best thing to do is to experiment.
00:07:48.360We should test different ideas through cooperatives, bottom-up, trial-and-error process, rather than imposing a top-down, partisan power play that disrupts the lives of hundreds of millions of people at a time.
00:08:02.340Eight years ago, Democrats created a one-size-fits-all national health care system, and it's collapsing around us.
00:08:10.140They couldn't even make the website work.
00:08:13.140Why do Republicans, who are supposedly skeptical of a government miracle working, expect our one-size-fits-all scheme to work any better?
00:08:22.220The only hope for actually solving the deep, challenging problems in our health care system is to let the people try out approaches other than the ones a few dozen politicians might think up inside of the D.C. bubble.
00:08:39.980And so, for all of my frustrations about the process and the disagreements with the details of BCRA, I would still be willing to vote for it if it allowed states and or individuals to opt out of the Obamacare system free and clear to experiment with different forms of insurance, benefits package, care provision options, etc.
00:09:07.420Liberal states might try a single-payer system, while conservatives might emphasize health care savings accounts.
00:09:15.660Some people embrace association health care plans or so-called MediShare ministry models.
00:09:22.460My guess is different approaches will work for different people in different places, just like everything else in life.
00:09:30.740The only way to find out what does work is to find out what doesn't.
00:09:37.500We know that pre-Obamacare system was breaking down.
00:09:41.020We now know that Obamacare is failing as well.
00:09:44.260I doubt this system will fare much better.
00:09:47.000Or that the next Pelosi-Sanders-Warren scheme Democrats will cook up will be worse.
00:09:53.920At some point, Washington elites might at least entertain the possibility that we don't have all the answers in Washington.
00:10:02.480I think, right now, with President Trump's shocking upset of the establishment still fresh in their minds, it'd be a good time for Congress to add new ingredients to the legislative sausage.
00:10:15.900To win my vote, the Republican health care bill must create a little space for states and individuals to sidestep Washington's arrogant incompetence to see if they can do better.
00:10:29.880Recent history suggests Washington couldn't do worse.
00:13:15.000You could probably go to six on that, too, as Susan Collins sort of indicated that she may not vote for it, too.
00:13:22.640She said, it's hard for me to see this bill passing this week.
00:13:26.400We could well be in for an all-nighter a couple of nights this week.
00:13:32.180Yeah, so you could kind of take hers as you can't really tell, but she is showing some hesitancy to support it, I guess, is the way you could put that.
00:13:38.920But the other five are Mike Lee, as you pointed out last break.
00:13:43.240We were talking before we went on the air, and you said you thought that he wasn't really out, and he isn't out unless there's an opt-out for the states or the individuals.
00:15:02.460Governor Bevin, he's getting some heat now because he's making risky investments, they say, with hedge funds to try to be able to fix their pension fund.
00:15:17.660They are the most, this is the worst pension, apparently, in the country.
00:15:24.500It's 20% underfunded, and it's completely falling apart.
00:15:29.620Now, I don't know how you could be worse than Illinois, which Illinois is now 100% of every tax dollar that comes in in Illinois has to go to the court-mandated must-pay pensions.
00:15:44.040So, this is piling up on our states as it is.
00:15:50.660We're not going to have the money to be able to do anything.
00:16:01.900It'll be states like Texas, probably places like Wyoming that will say, I'm not in.
00:16:08.640And it will be all of the places like Illinois, New York, California that will say, yes, we need Obamacare.
00:16:16.300Well, they're going to collapse, and then we're going to be stuck with the bill.
00:16:19.680Because if you don't think the United States is going to be stuck with the pension bill from Illinois and Kentucky and every place else, you're fooling yourself.
00:16:35.700I thought we were working in that world already.
00:16:39.960Yeah, no, I mean, it's a massive problem.
00:16:43.300To finish that list, by the way, it was Lee Cruz, Johnson from Wisconsin, Rand Paul.
00:16:49.640I mentioned Susan Collins and, oh, Heller from Nevada is the other one of the six that are right now sort of indicating potential no votes.
00:17:00.980Well, Ron Johnson, Ron Johnson's didn't say that, like Mike Lee is coming out and saying, no, unless you do this one thing.
00:17:08.860Ron Johnson just said, there's no way we should be voting on this, quote, no way we should be voting on this, no way.
00:17:16.720I have a hard time believing Wisconsin's constituents or even myself have enough time to properly evaluate this for me and my vote for a motion to proceed.
00:17:26.920So, he's just saying, they're just jamming it down our throats and no thank you.
00:17:31.860Yeah, and it's one thing to toss out a comment about, okay, well, this is coming too fast.
00:17:37.080You feel like a lot of times people make those sorts of complaints and then come around in the end.
00:17:43.600He also wrote an extensive op-ed in the New York Times today about how much he doesn't like the proposal.
00:17:49.100So, it's not just that he's saying, well, we shouldn't vote on it this week.
00:17:53.800He's listing out a lot of pretty significant problems with it.
00:17:58.080And, you know, without, with that and, you know, this is a, if you have Susan Collins and Ted Cruz who are showing some sort of opposition to this and Mike Lee, you're having problems on both sides, which is the same issue they had in the House.
00:18:11.660Of course, as we all know, the House wound up getting over those things eventually.
00:18:15.520So, they may wind up passing this thing, but it's not going to be easy.
00:18:19.380It is going to be a, it's going to be very difficult for them to get this done, especially this week.
00:18:23.380I'm afraid that if they don't get it done, Donald Trump scraps the whole thing and we have a single-payer system.
00:18:58.600And they were talking about a Trojan horse that it's going to collapse and then we'll have a single-payer system.
00:19:04.120And that's what Donald Trump has advocated for, that this is scrapped and repealed, and then we get a system that is basic, universal, single-payer health care that the government pays for all of it.
00:19:20.400I mean, he said he's willing to lose votes on that.
00:19:53.320But if it collapses, and it collapses without any experimentation anyplace else, I can guarantee you the Republicans and the Democrats are going to go for a failed single-payer system because they're still operating like it's 1956.
00:20:28.200A very good friend of the program and one of the more decent men I know, Riaz Patal, is joining us now.
00:20:37.160Riaz has been away for a while and been out of the country, had a new baby, has been spending time with his family, and unfortunately has lost his dear father here recently.
00:20:51.540Riaz, how are you holding up, brother?
00:20:57.320I wanted to talk to you today a little bit, Riaz, about, you know, we had kind of a nice conversation over the last week about our dads and losing your dad and what that feels like.
00:21:13.500It's a weird thing that never seems to go away.
00:21:17.140It's like a refall of sadness and emotion.
00:21:30.100And it's strange because it, at least with me, and I don't know about anybody else, but at least with me, the memories of my mother and my father have changed.
00:21:45.320And they change as I get older, and it's weird.
00:21:53.480Depending on which part of them you want to focus on, they become either better or worse than they really were.
00:22:25.160I started writing down all the memories, good, bad, all that, to sort of keep it fresh where it is now and notice how it changes over time.
00:22:34.180So, Riaz, your dad was a doctor, and he was a doctor on three continents with three different systems of medicine.
00:22:45.140And you and I were also going back and forth on health care.
00:22:48.840And you are, you know, a lefty or a liberal, if you will, but you're also the guy who went up to Alaska during the Trump campaign.
00:23:00.920And all of your friends were saying, how could these people ever vote for Trump?
00:23:05.020And as you looked at it, you went up to Alaska and you saw the suffering of people in the country and said they're afraid they're losing everything and they don't have they don't have the money to be able to survive in this if it continues this way.
00:23:24.180Yeah, yeah, part of the quest of what do I not know out there?
00:23:27.860What do I think I know but I not know?
00:23:30.000And you'd have to be pretty deaf to not be able to hear that health care is broken.
00:23:35.820And I don't know anyone, anyone, if you were to ask people to raise their hands, would raise their hand and say, yep, it's working for me.
00:23:41.760And so it was fascinating as I was sitting in the aftermath of my father's death and talking to his secretaries, Bernie and Ruth, who'd been with him for 20, 30 years, about the patients, the patient community, because he's been there for 40 plus years.
00:23:55.780So those patients are going to feel the change.
00:23:58.240And as we discussed that patient community of Edgewood, Maryland, I realized it's very much a microcosm of what's happened in America.
00:24:05.680And what's fascinating is the way my dad adapted his practice and the practice of medicine to the changing economic times.
00:24:12.300Edgewood, Maryland is a blue collar town.
00:24:14.600And over the past 40 years, it has systematically decreased its income.
00:24:21.040I remember factories closing when I was a teenager, but people still got sick and people still slipped and fell.
00:24:26.360And so what happened when they lost their jobs, they lost their income, they lost their insurance, but they still got sick.
00:24:33.260And they went to my dad and my dad created this island, you know, and it's not that uncommon for a doctor to just want to practice medicine and say, to hell with the insurance and the pre-approvals.
00:27:52.440And Washington is taking it even further.
00:27:55.200They're just making deals with the government, or with the insurance companies, and with all the people who are getting rich, including them.
00:28:03.240So, my father was, you know, in the 1970s and 80s, was a medical director of a hospital, a small hospital in this area.
00:28:09.340And I watched, as a kid, as the board, he ran all the decisions of this hospital.
00:28:19.820And then, eventually, there were no doctors represented.
00:28:22.520So, everything we're talking about, whether it's two-party systems, single-party systems, the government, insurance, pre-approvals, none of that has anything to do with you and your doctor.
00:28:32.080And, to me, what my father brought, having trained in Karachi, Pakistan, in London, England, was a very different perspective that you treat first your physician, and then the billing comes next.
00:28:43.040And what he did is said, you're sick, you come in.
00:28:54.480But I can pay $40, and they would be like, okay, because we know, in healthcare, that's better than nothing.
00:29:01.100And my father would just say, the personal responsibility of a physician to treat is the joy of his life.
00:29:07.440And at a certain point, working at the hospital, it was so bureaucratic with the lawyers and the MBAs and the lobbyists in a small hospital that he actually left the hospital, built his own surgical center, and said, I cannot practice medicine appropriately in the way it works.
00:29:23.500What you're asking for, though, is a return to common sense and a return to trust in neighbors.
00:29:31.560I'm reading this book called Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me.
00:29:35.540And it talks about why we don't say I'm sorry.
00:29:40.600And it gets to this one place about doctors.
00:29:42.600And they tracked doctors in a study of those who said, wow, I made a huge mistake, all the way to a doctor who came out of surgery.
00:30:33.460And so in this tiny patient community of Edgewood, they were able to create this walk-in medical center, nothing fancy, where neighbors walked in up to three, four generations and were treated.
00:30:43.580And to me, in my father was diagnosed with cancer and was dead in seven weeks, literally.
00:30:49.000I would say we spent 80% of our time trying to navigate insurance.
00:31:30.000And I'm thinking after he's dead and I'm standing there near the grave and I'm like, how can this continue?
00:31:36.360How can a person get sick and go to their doctor and 4,000 people and 10 million letters will go on that has nothing to do with that dynamic?
00:31:48.620Can you talk a little bit about the off-the-grid medicine that you saw in Alaska?
00:31:52.360So in Alaska, when I was there, I saw in the local paper that they actually were advertising doctors were coming and setting up, basically bundling your health care, saying people are not going to doctor's offices because they don't have insurance and money.
00:32:46.040But only if you let states opt out and come up with their own thing, he said, because I believe the people of the country will figure it out in their own way if you just leave them alone.
00:33:21.860The insurance companies have removed that ability to talk to your doctor and vice versa about the fact that, hey, I'm sick, but I don't have money.
00:33:48.440I know that in Texas, this is the feeling of many of the doctors of, you know what, I'm just pulling out of the system and I'll just deal with it myself.
00:33:57.860I personally think that as we get closer to universal single payer system, those doctors are going to be told you can't do that.
00:41:13.800And there was just this really great feeling of that, that butterfly in your stomach.
00:41:21.180That excitement for what's about to happen.
00:41:26.420We might have butterflies in our stomach now, but it's more of a, I think I'm going to vomit feeling when we're thinking about what might happen.
00:42:23.800At least in early childhood, it is the summer that marked you.
00:42:28.880And every summer was different and more exciting.
00:42:31.880It's different than it is now because we weren't restricted as much.
00:42:39.780Our parents weren't freaking out that somebody might, you know, invite us into the house, eat us, and lock the rest of the remains up in their freezer.
00:44:31.100I love the smell of lilacs because they remind me of that time and they'd just fill your nostrils with that great smell until I would clog up from allergies, mainly from the lawn that I had just mowed.
00:44:54.240If we could scrounge up a quarter, we'd walk or we'd take our bike to the A&W root beer place and we'd have a cold, frosty mug of root beer.
00:45:09.400If we were really fortunate and feeling like we were wealthy, somehow or another we could scrape up enough change to make a dollar.
00:45:19.500We could get a mama burger, but the papa burger was far too expensive.
00:45:24.240And then that hot summer day turned into a warm summer night.
00:45:29.280Sometimes we could convince our parents to let us sleep outside, which of course would lead to middle of the night ghost stories or talking about girls.
00:47:18.200And I would go down in the late afternoon and I would have to clean the pots and pans and scrape the floor and clean everything up once dad stopped.
00:52:12.220The other reason why kids aren't working is because the minimum wage.
00:52:18.280When the minimum wage goes up and there's unemployment and people that have experience that want to work, businesses don't hire the kids that they have to train on what work is all about.
00:52:30.700They generally go to the people who have experience and know what work is all about, and they'll hire them because they're more dependable.
00:55:15.380As cities across the country push for minimum wages at untested heights in recent years, some economists began to ask, how high is too high?
00:55:23.280Seattle, with the highest in-country minimum wage, may have hit that limit.
00:55:27.900January 2016, Seattle minimum wage jumped from $11 an hour to $13 for large employers, the second big increase in less than a year.
00:55:37.420New research released Monday by a team of economists at the University of Washington.
00:55:43.340There's not a socialist that is an unemployed teacher as long as the University of Washington is still open.
00:57:33.940They note in this article, this is not peer reviewed yet.
00:57:37.140They're going to get some peers to review and say, oh, no, University of Washington, they didn't understand the fluffamagug, which is a theory that changes everything.
00:57:49.920And we'll get into that here in a second.
00:59:10.280If we can get a real conservative in there, it will be fantastic because it will make the court solidly and dependably conservative at this point.
00:59:24.420If you get three to retire, then conservatives have changed the face of America for quite some time.
00:59:31.680Although I don't believe that we I mean, we could do the greatest work, the hardest work ever unless we listen to people like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee.
00:59:42.220We're not going to get conservatives in there.
00:59:44.560We still have yet to see Gorsuch, but we're hoping that Gorsuch is a change in what has been the usual pattern from the Reagans and the Bushes.
00:59:52.460Now, there's a couple of really big stories coming out of the court today because they are going to take a couple of cases.
00:59:59.240First, there is a gay wedding cake controversy.
01:00:19.420The lower court had ruled that Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop, violated Colorado's public accommodations law, which prohibits refusing service to customers based on factors such as race, sex, marital status.
01:00:33.340Again, it's the same type as the one in Oregon because he just didn't.
01:00:52.080This is going to be, this is game changing.
01:00:54.960I believe this is as game changing as the Commerce Clause.
01:01:00.380And most people don't understand what the Commerce Clause is, but the clause that really changed everything is in the Constitution.
01:01:09.800And it's really pretty meaningless, or at least it was as it was written.
01:01:14.980It basically said if there's interstate commerce, then the the federal government gets to rule when there's a when there's trouble.
01:01:28.100Um, and that's because the states were fighting against each other and they, you know, they, they were really basically 13 original countries and that's how they were behaving.
01:01:44.060And so the federal government said, look, guys, just to avoid war between the 13 colonies, if it's interstate commerce, then we'll regulate that.
01:01:55.880So we make sure that it's fair across all states.
01:01:59.640Well, FDR took that clause and brought it to his court and said, um, you know, we'd like you to make this stronger because, uh, people were selling wheat.
01:02:13.780Farmers were selling, uh, wheat and doing their own trade.
01:02:18.460And so what they said was, well, now, wait a minute, even if you bake your own bread and you grow your own wheat, even if you do that and bake your own bread and you're using it yourself, there are perhaps seeds that are coming across, uh, state lines for you to be able to replant.
01:02:40.760Uh, there are other things that you might use that are pesticides that are coming and even just the pollination of your field going into another state allows the United States government to regulate.
01:02:54.880So now everything is regulated by the United States government where it was very rare that states had, um, the federal government regulations and that changed everything.
01:03:08.540This cake, uh, controversy could change everything in America because we have right now, we have had a rule of religious freedom and I can't be a, um, you know, I can't be a bigot and say, uh, I'm not serving any gay people, but when you're asked to for it, when you're asked to use your art,
01:03:37.520whether that's a photographer or, uh, a, a, a baker that is using their art, my father used to, um, do wedding cakes on Saturdays, all he would do were wedding cakes.
01:03:54.660And, uh, I know the hours and hours and hours that he spent and I know how he thought about the couple and he worked with the couple and he was part of it.
01:04:04.860And he was excited to hear about how the couple's wedding went and how their reception was and what the response was with the cake because he poured his heart into it.
01:04:16.000Well, that's using your talent and your skills and many bakers, some don't, but many bakers will think, well, I'm now participating in your wedding and my religion says that I shouldn't be doing that.
01:04:29.240I'll sell you anything off the shelf. It's not a problem, but I can't participate in that. Now, not everybody who's religious feels that way, but some do.
01:04:39.320How can the government force them to go against what they truly believe?
01:04:45.020That's the question. And the problem with this is, is we used to be clear with conscientious objectors. You know, you couldn't, you know, people, when I have, when I have this argument with people and say, look, you know, I don't know what my dad would have done.
01:05:05.020My dad might've made cakes. He might not have, I don't know, but my dad wasn't a real deeply religious person. He was a deeply spiritual person.
01:05:17.340So how was he going to interpret that? I don't know, but a deeply religious person who goes to a church and they say, this is, this is what we believe.
01:05:28.760You can't force them to do that. That's, that's like taking the Amish or, or what is it? Jehovah's witness also don't believe in armed conflict.
01:05:42.860That's what they're taught in, in, in church. Our standard has always been, if that is truly your religion, you can't use it as an excuse.
01:05:53.540But even if we find it deplorable for some reason, you got to serve or you don't have to serve.
01:06:01.620And that included, that was up to and including using peyote, which is against the law.
01:06:07.660But, but Native Americans said that that was part of their religious belief and they won that case.
01:06:13.440And look, and look at Hacksaw, not Hacksaw Ridge, uh, chains. Is it Hacksaw Ridge?
01:06:18.720It is Hacksaw Ridge. Um, Hacksaw Ridge. That's the story in World War II where you're fighting Hitler and evil and a guy who lives in the Carolinas and believes that I, I can't, I'm, I was raised as a pacifist.
01:06:34.700I cannot, um, kill, but I'll go and serve as a medic. And he was, he was brutalized in bootcamp for it. He becomes one of the greatest heroes in American history, but we didn't force him to do what was against his moral and, and religious, um, uh, framework.
01:06:57.700We can't, or the first amendment means nothing. The travel ban.
01:07:05.980Yeah, this is a big one in that, uh, they were, weren't sure if the Supreme court was going to take it. They are going to take that case. So I think it's going to be argued in October. Uh, and it's my initial reading of this. And a lot of these things are confusing because it's all legalistic language, but it seems like they are going to, uh, lift the injunction against the travel ban so that it can kind of go into effect until it's done.
01:07:27.700It's decided, um, at least most of it would go into effect. So, and they're not hearing all of it, right? They're only hearing parts of it.
01:07:36.240Yeah. And I know right for the injunction specifically, uh, only parts of it are going to be lifted. So it's not going to affect every single group. I, the details we're going to have to get into tomorrow because it's just kind of breaking as we speak. Although I would assume you'll be seeing this on a particular Twitter feed at some point today.
01:07:52.560Yeah. Let's, let's, let's, you've seen as a, at least a short term victory.
01:07:56.040Let's make sure that we, um, uh, talk to some really good attorneys, um, as we're preparing this for tomorrow. So we, we really get it right because, um, on the travel ban, you know, the real argument is, doesn't the president have a right to, isn't that part of his, his job description to keep us safe and to, um, uh, watch immigration.
01:08:21.040Immigration. I mean, it's always been in the president's purview to be able to do this. And so let's, let's have somebody get real specific. So we know exactly, um, what they're hearing and what the, the problem is and what other people are saying.
01:08:35.980So we'll, we'll, we'll have that tomorrow. Um, there's one other thing that I, I want to bring up the travel ban. It's interesting to me that he's doing the travel ban.
01:08:47.000Um, when, when, when you look at this, Donald Trump is very good at, um, speaking the language of his tribe, the people who follow him and the travel ban is very important.
01:09:03.740And not just, not just, not just to people who are looking at countries and saying, why are we letting people in that? We, we, we don't know if they're dangerous or not.
01:09:13.460And until we find a way to actually screen people that makes common sense, maybe we should, maybe we should hold off here for a second. Um, but I think Donald Trump is upping this and he spoke volumes to his tribe.
01:09:30.860Um, he has broken, this is the way this is written. Donald Trump breaks with tradition. White house forgoes Ramadan dinner. Did you read this?
01:09:42.380No. The, the president and first lady Melania released a statement on Saturday, wishing warm greetings to those celebrating. Um, what is it? I yid or id?
01:09:54.160I'd, uh, an important holiday marking the end of Ramadan Muslims in the United States. Join those around the world during a holy month of Ramadan to focus on acts of faith and charity. Now, as we, uh, commemorate I'd with family and friends, they carry on the tradition of helping neighbors and breaking bread with people from all walks of life.
01:10:13.700Uh, this is the first time now, uh, in three presidents that we have not had a Ramadan dinner. So when you think of the white house is breaking tradition, you don't think of the tradition that was started by Clinton. I mean, breaking with tradition, that's three presidents have had a Ramadan dinner.
01:10:34.700Now, a fourth president says no. So it's a new tradition. And I don't know how I feel about it. I don't.
01:10:43.200And the LGBT LGBT community is doing the same thing on, uh, Trump's, uh, lack of releasing some sort of, um, I guess he, every year Obama released a press release for the gay pride parade. Trump didn't do that.
01:10:59.320So he's breaking with tradition too. Tradition that started with the last president. It started with the last president. I mean, if you want to talk about this, come on, if you, if you really want to go there, then, uh, then Barack Obama, he didn't, but he was claiming he was going to break tradition of starting wars in foreign lands.
01:11:20.280Because that's what the last president did. Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's funny. This exact same way they're tweeting or they're treating the healthcare issue, which is the only thing that we should measure this on is the current, very recently implemented failing program.
01:11:35.680That is the only fair standard to even look at. It's not, we don't look at what we had before 2008 or the century before that. We can only look at what we have right now, which was implemented that was forced through and incredibly unpopular to the entire time failing miserably failing miserably.
01:11:53.080Look, look, here's the thing. Here's, here's the case that we need to make as conservatives over and over again, because, um, we have to speak the language of the left and argue where the argument is and where the argument is on healthcare is, um, care. And I care. I want to make sure that people are not suffering.
01:12:13.400I want to make sure that we take care of the people who can't afford it. I want to make sure that there is healthcare available for everybody. And I don't want somebody on the streets dying of cancer. Well, let me just say this. The regulations are so uncaring. The regulations are, are so inhuman.
01:12:35.040And beyond that, I care about all of the families. Now we have taken a group of people who were suffering and not really done much for them. And then we've made the rest of the country suffer with 140% increase in their premiums.
01:12:54.480This is, this is, if we would have sold this as care, you got to care, but it's going to cost you 140% more. We all would have said, no, we have to change the argument and we have to say, let's care for the people who are in Ohio. Let's care for the people, the moms and dads who are not on the poverty line. This cannot afford 140% increase. It's unreasonable.
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01:14:45.520I think last time Brad Thor was on, I think we almost threw him off the air.
01:18:56.320Large Facebook group composed of self-described witches cast spells to bind President Trump and all those who abet him.
01:19:04.600On Wednesday, you know, abet is a word I haven't really seen around since maybe 1626.
01:19:12.360On Wednesday, a large Facebook group composed of the self-described witches began to cast the spells.
01:19:19.260The group, which calls itself Bind Trump, has more than 2,000 members.
01:19:24.160Although it's unclear exactly how many participated in the event, on the night of the alleged binding ceremony, dozens posted pictures and videos of their anti-Trump rituals.
01:20:18.260I'm just saying that's what the witches have said.
01:20:19.900Okay, so here, the witches event was scheduled to correspond with the waning crescent moon, and the group's members used a organized liturgy to wish evil on Trump's agenda.
01:20:32.900The participants were instructed to gather a number of components to aid them in their efforts, including a tarot card reader, an unflattering picture of Donald Trump.
01:20:42.560I don't know, why can't you use a nice picture of Donald Trump?
01:20:45.080Is the queen of all witches up in heaven going, I mean, I'm sorry, I don't mean to insult witches.
01:20:52.380I don't know what your practice is exactly, but do they're like, no, it's got to be an unflattering picture.
01:21:02.780They're supposed to have candles, a small bowl of water, an ashtray, or a dish of sand, and a feather.
01:21:10.840Now, it sounds like something that you shouldn't take seriously, but have I ever struck you as the guy that doesn't take stuff like this seriously?
01:22:06.560It's an untold, sad, sad tale of how some rocks are pried from their family in what we haphazardly have just named gravel pits, and their family members are ripped and sent to other driveways, sometimes halfway across the country, for those rock families never to be united again.
01:31:32.200I really wanted to give him hell for being late.
01:31:35.200I mean, when you're on the Jimmy Kimmel show, how many times does it happen halfway through the time when you were supposed to be on?
01:31:42.400Jimmy is just ad-libbing about something he doesn't know anything about, just stalling until the guest finally stumbles out from behind the curtain and is like, oh, hey, sorry, I missed half the interview time.
01:33:26.300Do you still have the song that they did?
01:33:28.020Remember the song on what was it on gender or something that had nothing to do with science at all?
01:33:34.880Uh, and, uh, really had very little to do with comedy and music, which was very difficult for a comedy song about gender.
01:33:44.240Uh, you know, having a song that didn't have anything to do with music, comedy, or gender, um, or at least science.
01:33:50.540Um, she has, she has taken this tweet down, uh, but the best tweet of the weekend has to come from Steve, uh, days.
01:34:03.660Steve writes, if you thought 2016 was bad, how about a 2018 election between a party embracing cultural Marxism and one that broke a nine year promise to voters?
01:34:29.960I mean, certainly not the cultural Marxists, but then on the other hand, you vote for these guys and they don't do anything they said they were going to do.
01:34:39.360You're watching a game with two teams you don't care about.
01:34:41.800I mean, you might, you might wind up having a little bit of a rooting interest in certain parts of it or whatever,
01:34:45.700but it's, it's, it's hard to have passion over this.
01:34:48.060So somebody wrote to me this weekend, um, who you guys know, um, who said, I'm thinking about running and, um, and, uh, I don't know what a run as, uh, I could run as GOP, could run as an independent or could run as a libertarian.
01:35:05.880And I'm not sure because all of them, uh, have, have really not stood for what they were supposedly standing for.
01:35:18.180If I am going to run, I'll give you my answer when we come back.
01:35:22.880Hello from Los Angeles, California and, uh, thrilled to be here.
01:35:46.040Um, it was nice about, uh, two o'clock in the morning to be able to have the windows open and to be able to hear the gunshots, um, that were just about three, four blocks away, which I thought was very nice.
01:35:59.760It was, it was a little confusing because, um, I said, that's gunshot.
01:36:03.400And my wife said, uh, no guns are illegal in California.
01:36:07.420And I said, you are right, sweetheart, you are right.
01:36:11.200That must've been people outside at night going bang, uh, that we heard, uh, or a, a backfiring of 15 to 20 cars, uh, which was really exciting because guns not legal.
01:36:29.200So, um, uh, a couple of things going on.
01:36:34.260The gay pride parade, uh, continues to be more of a Trump resistant parade than a pride parade.
01:36:43.240Uh, if you saw one, uh, anywhere around you, um, or you happen to attend one, you might've thought, wow, this seems kind of angry against Donald Trump.
01:36:53.320The most gay friendly president of all time.
01:37:14.000And, and this is what really, yeah, this is what really bothers me.
01:37:17.460No, you know, that Barack Obama was a pro gay marriage.
01:37:22.080You know that he was, but he didn't have the, uh, fortitude to actually say it.
01:37:28.500He didn't have the moral, the moral underpinning.
01:37:32.180In fact, he said in, I think 2008 or 2006, it was in there somewhere that because he's a Christian, he believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.
01:37:41.420In 2008, Donald Trump has not had that position.
01:38:07.760Same with all of them on the left in, and I shouldn't say all of the, all of the politicians on the left where Donald Trump has always been there, has always been, uh, gay friendly.
01:38:21.580If you will, if you, but I hate that phrase, uh, but he has always been gay friendly.
01:38:27.280It think of this, Barack Obama didn't have the guts to say at the DNC convention that he was, uh, gay friendly instead, you know, marriages between man and a woman at the convention, Donald Trump, that's the democratic convention.
01:38:46.160Donald Trump goes to the Republican convention and says that he supports gay marriage and yada, yada, yada.
01:39:09.180And, and I think, you know, initially he was okay with the, with the, uh, transgender thing going, transgenders going to whatever bathroom they wanted to.
01:39:19.500Uh, he said that all Trump places would be transgender friendly.
01:39:23.160But then he, he removed the restriction of federal funds going to school districts in California, uh, for, for them to, uh, be able to go into whatever bathroom they wanted to, because it's a school.
01:39:53.100Well, but this is, this, I mean, if you have a Republican that is Donald Trump, I mean, this is a huge, a huge win.
01:39:58.360If, if essentially the opposition to the, uh, the LGBT activist is Donald Trump, like me, has he backed off slightly on a couple of minor parts of Obama's agenda?
01:40:10.940I mean, you can maybe argue that, but I mean, it's not, it's not a strong argument.
01:40:14.720And that's why you're seeing there's a poll that came out today from Pew, uh, that showed the, uh, support for same sex marriage.
01:40:20.720Um, and I was looking at, I was like, wow, you can see the kind of meteoric, meteoric rise, uh, of support, of support for it, which is kind of well-documented.
01:40:29.180However, I didn't, I hadn't looked down at the bottom of the, of the, uh, poll when I first looked at it, the graph, which shows the timeline, which is just since 2007.
01:42:00.040And the facts are that the left and the right speak a different language.
01:42:05.320And because of this, we don't hear each other.
01:42:09.900And so it's like a missionary going, you know, to the Amazon or going to Mexico City and wanting to convert people and wanted to help people.
01:42:45.500And it's harder to see because we're both speaking English.
01:42:49.220language, but the writer, this is now, listen, if you really understand this, you'll understand there are so many levels of the language that we have to discuss.
01:43:01.320But the most basic is the elephant and the writer.
01:43:28.040It can be changed, but it's very hard to change it.
01:43:32.900And believe me, I know because I've seen this happen in my own life.
01:43:38.200So what you have to do is you have to understand that the elephant is the emotion center of a human and it's your gut, it's fear, it's love, it's hope, it's all these emotions that you feel.
01:43:58.980And just like a writer on an elephant, you know, with a rope between his, you know, teeth, you can try to steer that elephant.
01:44:09.980But if the emotion was so ingrained in this elephant, if it's already had its first impression, its third impression and all of the emotions, you're not going to change its mind.
01:44:28.820I know that when my daughter was in college, she went to Fordham University and they taught her at a Catholic university that the Bible was false, that sodomy was just a greeting.
01:44:43.820It had nothing to do, literally, nothing to do with sex.
01:44:47.500It was just the way people greeted each other back in the old days.